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From: John Hills <jhills@unix.infoserve.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MARBLE Teleconnect
Date: 30 Dec 1995 23:18:49 GMT
Organization: J Hills Radiology Inc.
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I am running 3.0(J) on a 68040 cube and have a copy of Marble Teleconnect,
which I can't seem to get to work. Suggestions, comments. Does Marble
still exist?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT GateKeeper/PPP Setup and NXFax
Message-ID: <1995Dec30.181727.70205@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@spanky.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Howard R. Cole)
Date: 30 Dec 95 18:17:27 MDT
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In <DKDr4s.5so.0.server@indra.com> Steve Herndon wrote:
> This is probably too trivial to post, but I had similar behaviour when
> moving my startup script from black to white hardware. Turns out the modem
> on my white box is connected to serial port b, instead of port a which I
> was using on my black machine.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
Yes, I am too. I have NXFax set to use port B, and the ppp script
set to use /dev/cufb. And while NXFax is active, ppp can't get out.
Like I say - they co-existed on the cube, but they don't seem to
get along on white. I can only use ppp when I make the Fax
"unavailable" from the PrintManager.
- HRC -
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT GateKeeper/PPP Setup and NXFax
Date: 31 Dec 1995 02:27:32 GMT
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In <1995Dec30.181727.70205@cc.usu.edu> Howard R. Cole wrote:
> Yes, I am too. I have NXFax set to use port B, and the ppp script
> set to use /dev/cufb. And while NXFax is active, ppp can't get out.
> Like I say - they co-existed on the cube, but they don't seem to
> get along on white. I can only use ppp when I make the Fax
> "unavailable" from the PrintManager.
Why can't you just set ppp to go out on cufa?
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From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextime
Date: 31 Dec 1995 05:33:52 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
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On 29 Dec 1995 05:49:42 GMT, buckley@mayo.edu <buckley@mayo.edu> wrote:
> I've just downloaded a quicktime.mov from HOTWIRED and NEXTIME makes a
> parser error and complains that its not a movie. Is this a NEXTIME
> problem? seems most movies I download from non-next.com sites don't
> work. Is there a way to investigate the format of a quicktime file?
It's a NEXTIME problem. NEXTIME plays a small portion of QuickTime files.
It recognizes a subset of what you can play on a Mac and it has problems
playing some movies all the way through (I believe it has to do with files
that have more than one compression scheme; playing the movie without sound
by holding down the frame-forward button works sometimes).
If you can't load the file in NEXTIME, it obviously won't work to use the
inspector (cmd-i), but you could try loading the file into Adobe Premiere on
a Mac. That app can also edit QuickTime files. There are some Mac
utilities you could also use to recompress the anim using a different
algorithm.
Also, you should know that it erroneously declares playing .avi files; it
has an icon for them and reports no error if you open the app by
double-clicking one. It simply does nothing with them. Furthermore, if you
blow up a movie too small to fit the entire initial window and use the cmd-]
to resize it smaller, the movie will be distorted. Use the window resize
gadget to make it a small window and restore the original aspect ratio.
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: designing fonts
Date: 31 Dec 1995 05:44:53 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
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On 29 Dec 1995 05:47:02 GMT, buckley@mayo.edu <buckley@mayo.edu> wrote:
> Does this mean nobody is doing font design on the Nextstep platform?
Unless they've made their own app, I'd say yes, nobody is doing font design
on NS because there isn't any software with which to do it.
There used to be an app coming out soon, but then it suddenly disappeared. I
think it was coming from Pinnacle Research or a company with "Radical" in
their name. It was quite a while ago, and I don't remember all the details,
but I recall seeing a one-page advertisement from a NeXTWORLD expo saying
that this app was coming out. In my opinion, OpenStep could use a
Fontographer port.
From: andrew@otter.cuug.ab.ca(Andrew Tyldesley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Are you missing bcp on your black Sybase server??
Date: 31 Dec 1995 03:47:17 GMT
Organization: Calgary UNIX Users' Group
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> Robert La Ferla (rdl@world.std.com) wrote:
> : bcp is indeed missing. It shouldn't be hard to rewrite it.
No it probably wouldn't be hard to write, but why would one want to when it
used to ship with NeXTstep. Anyhow someone sent me a copy and it works fine.
Art Isbell informed me that he believes it last shipped on the 3.0 CD as
part of the Sybase_DB-Library.pkg package.
Andrew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT GateKeeper/PPP Setup and NXFax
Message-ID: <1995Dec30.231627.70215@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@spanky.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Howard R. Cole)
Date: 30 Dec 95 23:16:27 MDT
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In <4c4sek$7vj@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> In <1995Dec30.181727.70205@cc.usu.edu> Howard R. Cole wrote:
> > Yes, I am too. I have NXFax set to use port B, and the ppp script
> > set to use /dev/cufb. And while NXFax is active, ppp can't get out.
> > Like I say - they co-existed on the cube, but they don't seem to
> > get along on white. I can only use ppp when I make the Fax
> > "unavailable" from the PrintManager.
>
>
> Why can't you just set ppp to go out on cufa?
>
>
My mouse is on serial port a. I'd like to use a PS/2 mouse - but I
can't find anyone who will sell me a cable to run from the PS/2
header on the motherboard to a PS/2 mouse connector I can mount on
the rear end of the case.
- HRC -
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Are you missing bcp on your black Sybase server??
In-Reply-To: andrew@otter.cuug.ab.ca's message of 31 Dec 1995 03:47:17 GMT
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Because NS 3.0 doesn't run on Intel, Sparc, or HP computers.
Robert La Ferla
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Boston, MA
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> Robert La Ferla (rdl@world.std.com) wrote:
> : bcp is indeed missing. It shouldn't be hard to rewrite it.
No it probably wouldn't be hard to write, but why would one want to when it
used to ship with NeXTstep. Anyhow someone sent me a copy and it works fine.
Art Isbell informed me that he believes it last shipped on the 3.0 CD as
part of the Sybase_DB-Library.pkg package.
Andrew
From: louis@cia.cc.emory.edu (Louis Leon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MARBLE Teleconnect
Date: 31 Dec 1995 09:12:41 GMT
Organization: Emory University
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In <4c4hcp$mi9@news.infoserve.net> John Hills wrote:
> I am running 3.0(J) on a 68040 cube and have a copy of Marble Teleconnect,
> which I can't seem to get to work. Suggestions, comments. Does Marble
> still exist?
>
>
>
I currently use Teleconnect, and have used it for maybe years. Yes, Marble
still exists.
Regarding your problem, what does your /etc/teleconnect/log/dial.log show?
From: asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SpiderWoman question.
Date: 31 Dec 1995 15:33:36 GMT
Organization: International Turnkey Systems
Message-ID: <4c6agg$87s@dns.itsq8.com>
I use NS3.3 (Intel) + Dev. I Installed SpiderWoman from the official web
site. I get this error :
--------------------
Dec 31 18:37:17 home1 syslog: objc: class `NXAutoreleaseConnection' not
linked into application
Dec 31 18:37:22 [346] *** autorelease for (proxy != nil) && ([proxy
conformsTo:@protocol(W3Interface)]) [0xe105c]: No pool in place
Dec 31 18:37:22 [346] Assertion failed [W3Proxy, proxy] (proxy != nil) &&
([proxy conformsTo:@protocol(W3Interface)])
Dec 31 18:37:22 [346] *** Uncaught exception: NSAutoreleasePool: setting
parent to self!
exiting!
--------------------
Could somebody help please.
Thanx.
From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help on Objective-C++
Date: 31 Dec 1995 16:18:05 GMT
Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University
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Hello there,
This is my first mail to this news group. I am kind of new
to using Objective-C on NextStep machines. I was tring to integrate
my C++ code for Vision tasks with existing GUI developed using
Next's Interface Builder in Objective-C. I created an interface
file which has mixed code (both C++ and Objective C). The header
file of this interface file looks something like this
@interface OCEdge: Object
{
// some normal Objective-C instance variable
.....
// C++ instance variable...
class Edge *anEdge;
}
// the list of methods
@end
Now my problem is that when I include (using #import) the complier
tells me
undefined type: found 'class'
Also how do I declare C++ class (Edge in this case) in the above
header file.
Thanx in advance ...
Sanjeev
sanjeev@isc.umr.edu
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT GateKeeper/PPP Setup and NXFax
Date: 31 Dec 1995 22:43:55 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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Hi Howard! (NEXTSTEP space buffs - you must check out Howard's app
Rendezvous - too cool)
I have yet to get Gatekeepr to work on my system (ND Turbo Cube). The
modem is attached to serail port A and PPPMeter works fine; but GateKeeper
gets blithered when trying. (I don't have it set up right now; I'll post
error mesages, etc. later)
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From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: designing fonts
Date: 31 Dec 1995 19:28:10 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
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J.B. Nicholson-Owens (jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com) wrote:
: On 29 Dec 1995 05:47:02 GMT, buckley@mayo.edu <buckley@mayo.edu> wrote:
: that this app was coming out. In my opinion, OpenStep could use a
: Fontographer port.
No need. Fontographer runs natively under Win 95
Dave
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenWrite 2's exporting abilities (was: Re: OpenWrite2...perhaps a UI overhaul?)
Date: 1 Jan 1996 08:09:41 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
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Has anyone tried the OpenWrite export filters? I am somewhat curious about
loading exported files into mainstream apps. The demo doesn't allow even
limited tests of the saving or exporting facilities.
Has there been any word about how long Lighthouse will support this app? It
seems to need a lot of work.
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: redirecting display does not work.
Date: 30 Dec 1995 15:35:15 GMT
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cello@virgil (Sean Varah) wrote:
> David Wetzel (dave@turbocat.snafu.de) wrote:
> : Hi!
>
> : When I ppp to college everything works nice but I cannot
> : redirect the (HP) NeXT screen to my (Intel) NeXT at home.
> : Why? (I have public window-servers)
>
> Okay, first, use these instructions from "NXHosting over PPP"
> from the examples directory of Steve Perkin's most excellent
(...)
Does not help:-(
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From: Robert Lutwak <robert@amo.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2's exporting abilities (was: Re: OpenWrite2...perhaps a UI overhaul?)
Date: 1 Jan 1996 17:45:03 GMT
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In article <slrn4ef1i7.5es.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> Has anyone tried the OpenWrite export filters? I am somewhat curious about
> loading exported files into mainstream apps. The demo doesn't allow even
> limited tests of the saving or exporting facilities.
Hi.
I just tried moving a file from my NeXT to a Mac running MS-Word via
OpenWrite's export facility. It was a simple file (no graphics).
The only formatting other than margins was an occasional switch to bold
and a deliberate carraige return or two.
After reading the file into MS-Word, the result was a mess. The only
evidence of formatting was the mess of gibberish appearing between
sentences and expected font changes. All of the carraige returns
were lost. It turned out to be easier to bring it over as ascii.
Robert
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From: stevem@RADium.ca (Stephen MacDougall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Beta...
Date: 1 Jan 1996 19:37:08 GMT
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In <4bsip7$h4a@kerby.ocsg.com> Dennis Glatting wrote:
| Where can one find NetSurfer?
|
| -dpg
|
|
ftp://ftp.netsurfer.com/pub/next/Netsurfer/
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2's exporting abilities (was: Re: OpenWrite2...perhaps a UI overhaul?)
Date: 1 Jan 1996 20:20:07 GMT
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In <4c96j0$6su@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Robert Lutwak wrote:
> In article <slrn4ef1i7.5es.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
> jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> > Has anyone tried the OpenWrite export filters? I am somewhat
curious about
> > loading exported files into mainstream apps. The demo doesn't allow
even
> > limited tests of the saving or exporting facilities.
>
> Hi.
>
> I just tried moving a file from my NeXT to a Mac running MS-Word via
> OpenWrite's export facility. It was a simple file (no graphics).
> The only formatting other than margins was an occasional switch to bold
> and a deliberate carraige return or two.
>
> After reading the file into MS-Word, the result was a mess. The only
> evidence of formatting was the mess of gibberish appearing between
> sentences and expected font changes. All of the carraige returns
> were lost. It turned out to be easier to bring it over as ascii.
>
But it works well if you export for Word for Windows or DOS and then bring
it into Mac. It may just be the Mac export.
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Subject: Apology for previously posted binary
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mistakes are made, as Ben Stuyts rightfully pointed out.
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From: salvo@eskimo.com(Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: NeXT GateKeeper/PPP Setup and NXFax
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 01:32:25 GMT
In <1995Dec30.231627.70215@cc.usu.edu> Howard R. Cole wrote:
> My mouse is on serial port a. I'd like to use a PS/2 mouse - but I
> can't find anyone who will sell me a cable to run from the PS/2
> header on the motherboard to a PS/2 mouse connector I can mount on
> the rear end of the case.
You may be able to locate a local cable distributor who will make one for
you; all they need to know are the connectors and pin layout. I'm glad I
took that route a year ago because the PS/2 driver is better, and now I have
a good reason to hang another modem off my system. If you can't find any
locals, try Redmond Cable at 206-882-2009.
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From: espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Having a problem with co-Xist demo app
Date: 2 Jan 1996 03:23:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <4ca8g5$rhn@cloner2.ix.netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Hi all,
I recently installed the co-Xist demo app off the CD-Rom that comes with
NEXTSTEP. I followed all of the directions exactly but something went
wrong. When I start up the co-Xist application I see the icon appear, the
menu appears, the screen blinks for a second and then it all disappears. I
can't find any problem with what I did. Does anyone have a clue what I
could have done wrong??
Eric Peyton
espeyton@ix.netcom.com
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenWrite improvements (was: Re: OpenWrite2...perhaps a UI overhaul?)
Date: 2 Jan 1996 06:20:13 GMT
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On 28 Dec 1995 23:27:51 GMT, John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
> OK. Throw out the _entire_ UI and start from scratch. I mean it
> too. An interesting idea would be to take the 'browser' model of
> applying styles/process to subject matter ala Tiffany2.
I'd like to be able to apply formats with the keyboard: character, paragraph
and table as well as other kinds OpenWrite might offer. I don't like
switching between mouse and keyboard a lot.
I'd like to have the ability to select more than one range of data at the
same time and perform functions on all selected data. There's nothing more
tedious than having to re-apply some format to a lot of non-contiguous text
one range at a time.
I'd like conversions to run in alternate threads, so I can import/export
some documents and continue working on other documents simultaneously. I'd
like to see percent gauges so I know how far each conversion has progressed
instead of the information-free animation currently being used. I'd like to
see conversion code fixed so importing/exporting foreign files is correct.
Conversions should work in NS filters and be installed in a standard
location (and in a traditional way). Conversions are very important to get
correctly, especially for a non-standard app with a small userbase.
> Also, how about just ONE inspector, with all inspections options
> visible via traditional popup menu's; not the mysteriously
> appearing/dissappearing icons...
This sounds fine to me, I'd also like to see the inspector simplified by
getting rid of the buttons on the side. The updating could be automated to
work when the user hasn't done anything with the app (such as typing or menu
selection) for some seconds. Menus and panels should be standardized too
(with the possible addition of miniaturizing all the current documents).
> There is too much wrong, IMHO, to fix, I think starting over would
> be easier...
Bug fixing is really needed. I've already crashed the app while testing
editing and found it suffers from a traditional UNIX bug--things break when
it's installed in a path that has a space in it (e.g., /LocalApps/Word
Processors).
I agree the interface is too far gone to avoid starting over. However, I
believe the UI is only one area that needs help. If the feature set could
be extended, this promising app could turn into a great buy. I'm not sure
if the extensive redesign and bugfixing work will be profitable in the end.
Given Lighthouse's app set and the work that needs to be done with those
apps, I'm not confident this app will become the word processing star it
could be.
From: skellener@aol.com (Skellener)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextime
Date: 2 Jan 1996 04:26:07 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <4catnf$h8f@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <slrn4ec42v.306.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
I sure wish NeXTime would work!
Oh, well........
STEVE K.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Subject: Re: SpiderWoman question.
Message-ID: <DKK5GI.Iz@hurka.UUCP>
Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka)
Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.)
References: <4c6agg$87s@dns.itsq8.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:26:42 GMT
Hi Ahmad,
In article <4c6agg$87s@dns.itsq8.com> asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan)
writes:
> I use NS3.3 (Intel) + Dev. I Installed SpiderWoman from the official web
> site. I get this error :
> --------------------
> Dec 31 18:37:17 home1 syslog: objc: class `NXAutoreleaseConnection' not
> linked into application
> Dec 31 18:37:22 [346] *** autorelease for (proxy != nil) && ([proxy
> conformsTo:@protocol(W3Interface)]) [0xe105c]: No pool in place
> Dec 31 18:37:22 [346] Assertion failed [W3Proxy, proxy] (proxy != nil)
> ([proxy conformsTo:@protocol(W3Interface)])
> Dec 31 18:37:22 [346] *** Uncaught exception: NSAutoreleasePool: setting
> parent to self!
> exiting!
> --------------------
In addition to NS3.3 you also need to install EOF v1.1.
NXAutoreleaseConnection object is news in EOF 1.1 and it allows use of the
Foundation objects over DO.
Best regards,
--
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz
NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
From: patrick@opensource.com (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Having a problem with co-Xist demo app
Date: 2 Jan 1996 15:35:38 GMT
Organization: (null pointer)
Message-ID: <4cbjca$d2b@trane.opensource.com>
In article <4ca8g5$rhn@cloner2.ix.netcom.com> Espeyton wrote:
Hi all,
>
>I recently installed the co-Xist demo app off the CD-Rom that comes with
>NEXTSTEP. I followed all of the directions exactly but something went
>wrong. When I start up the co-Xist application I see the icon appear, the
>menu appears, the screen blinks for a second and then it all disappears. I
>can't find any problem with what I did. Does anyone have a clue what I
>could have done wrong??
>
>Eric Peyton
>espeyton@ix.netcom.com
>
>
You may want to check the console (command shift c in Workspace) for any errors
that might indicate the nature of the problem.
You will also want to try downloading the latest version - linked off our WWW
page at http://www.opensource.com/Software/Emulation/co-Xist.html .
Cordially
--
Patrick Giagnocavo, Account Executive, email:patrick@opensource.com
OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012 Denver, CO 80203
Check us out on the WWW at http://www.opensource.com
(303).861.4411 Fax: (303).861.2393 1-800-TRY-OPEN (879-6736)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Subject: Newsgrazer with nntp: high load, try again later
Message-ID: <DKK0sz.1ro@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: news@euler.hnv.icem.de
Organization: Ink Unknown
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 12:46:10 GMT
I switched to running Newsgrazer via nntp on my private machine. Now on many
occasion I get a 'high load on nntp host, try again later' message when
starting NG.
As this has not happened when I played with other NewsReaders I expect this to
be a feature of NG, version 77.
Is there a workaround to this? I'd rather have me decide about impact of load
on my machine. The default behaviour is obviously not suitable for me.
Thanks, Juergen
---
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== What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder,
== when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee,
== when a politician's idea of social change is changing names?
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite improvements (was: Re: OpenWrite2...perhaps a UI overhaul?)
Date: 2 Jan 1996 20:11:03 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4cc3gn$5m3@news4.digex.net>
References: <4bsh9b$2kn@news.csus.edu> <4buc2i$j5g@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <4bv95n$ce6@news4.digex.net> <slrn4ehfg5.60u.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) wrote:
> On 28 Dec 1995 23:27:51 GMT, John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
> wrote:
> > OK. Throw out the _entire_ UI and start from scratch. I mean
> > it too. An interesting idea would be to take the 'browser'
> > model of applying styles/process to subject matter ala Tiffany2.
> I'd like to be able to apply formats with the keyboard: character,
> paragraph and table as well as other kinds OpenWrite might offer.
> I don't like switching between mouse and keyboard a lot.
I think you can have both... All you would need is a way to assign
your own key equivalants to things/processes/styles you often used.
Also, you could navigate through the browser with the keyboard...
I also like your idea of having the app be multi-threaded (also
ala Tiffany2) so one could open files, insert graphics, apply
multiple styles/processess and not have to wait.
--
Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: Andrej Sali <sali>
Subject: QUESTION: NeXTstation <--> Windows95 ethernet connection?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Message-ID: <DKKo48.A05@rockyd.rockefeller.edu>
Sender: notes@rockyd.rockefeller.edu (News Administrator)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Organization: Rockefeller University
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 21:09:43 GMT
-- Hi,
I would like to connect via ethernet a PC running Windows95 and a
NeXTstation running NeXTstep 3.2 so that I can ftp, telnet, and
rcp between them.
Windows95 reports that the following items are installed properly on
the PC: ethernet adapter (NE2000 compatible), NE2000 TCP/IP protocol,
and there are also ping, ftp, telnet, arp, netstat, and route programs
in the \WINDOWS directory (I unpacked them from Windows95 as
distributed by COMPAQ, using add/remove software).
A complication is that both the NeXTstation and the PC already use the
same dialup PPP account from an Internet service provider (not at the
same time of course); I have a single permanent IP address for both
machines. On the NeXT, I have the ppp 2.02 software and on a PC, I
use Netscape.
What do I have to do on the PC and the NexTstation to make the ethernet
connection working? How do I assign the IP address to a PC (there is a
\WINDOWS\HOSTS file; I already have another unique IP number)? What are
the network interface names on a PC (the PC arp does not recognize
127.0.0.1)? How do I deal with dual dialup and ethernet interfaces on
the PC and the NeXTstation? Do they get assigned different IP addresses?
Any hints about any part of the problem will be very much appreciated
(please respond to my email address: sali@rockvax.rockefeller.edu).
Best wishes, Andrej
Andrej Sali
The Rockefeller University, Box 270
1230 York Avenue, New York, NY 10021-6399
voice (212) 327 7550; fax (212) 327 7540
e-mail sali@rockvax.rockefeller.edu
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: designing fonts
Date: 3 Jan 1996 00:17:35 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4ejejk.6lg.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <4bvvcm$4sg@cyberE.creative.net> <slrn4ec4nl.306.jbn@mystery-train.c <4c6o8a$1e9@redstone.interpath.net>
On 31 Dec 1995 19:28:10 GMT, Dave Briggman <paradigm@mercury.interpath.net> wrote:
> No need. Fontographer runs natively under Win 95
Yes, but OpenStep means more than just Win 95. Oh well, it'll probably
never happen anyhow.
From: harts@paulharts.knoware.nl (Paul Harts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TaskMaster Superior?
Date: 2 Jan 1996 23:18:15 GMT
Organization: Knoware Internet
Message-ID: <4ccefo$32a@news.knoware.nl>
References: <DKK5GI.Iz@hurka.UUCP>
Hi,
I had to use a planner for work, and preferred Taskmaster above
Superproject from Windows. However since my experience with planners isn't
far ranging I was wondering if there exist features on the conceptual
level that make TaskMaster superior to (any) other planners?
Any ideas/opinions?
Regards,
Paul.
====================================================
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| the Netherlands | will have to type the |
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====================================================
From: Stephen Arons <arons@panix.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Having a problem with co-Xist demo app
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 18:37:26 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <30E9C1B6.61A9@panix.com>
References: <4ca8g5$rhn@cloner2.ix.netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Try running the demo as root.
From: john@nextdoor.com (John McCracken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextime
Date: 3 Jan 1996 04:10:51 GMT
Organization: Best Internet Communications
Message-ID: <4ccvkb$2da@shellx.best.com>
References: <4bvvhm$4sg@cyberE.creative.net> <slrn4ec42v.306.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
In <slrn4ec42v.306.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com> J.B. Nicholson-Owens
wrote:
>
> It's a NEXTIME problem. NEXTIME plays a small portion of QuickTime files.
> It recognizes a subset of what you can play on a Mac and it has problems
> playing some movies all the way through (I believe it has to do with files
> that have more than one compression scheme; playing the movie without
> sound
y holding down the frame-forward button works sometimes).
>
Damn! And I was just getting ready to fork over $99 to buy it from
OpenSource. Is it worth it? What percentage of QT movies are
unplayable with NEXTIME? Where can I get more info on it?
--
John McCracken White Computers
john@nextdoor.com Can't Jump
NeXTMail welcome
From: Eric Baenen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where can Cryptor.bundle be found???
Date: 3 Jan 1996 04:56:42 GMT
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <4cd2aa$9ff@blackbird.afit.af.mil>
Keywords: bundles mail cryptor pgp
Does anyone know where Cryptor.bundle can be ftp'ed from? It doesn't
appear to be on cs.orst anymore. Has it gone commercial?
Thanks,
Eric
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenSesame question
Date: 3 Jan 1996 09:53:08 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <4cdjm4$n5h@news.tuwien.ac.at>
I have a white and a black NeXT, and I have been trying to run Mathematica
on the black NeXT (raven) with the Interface on the white NeXT (ray). If
I run it from the command line it works (I unchecked the Private Window
Server flag in Preferences):
ray:rft> rsh raven /LocalApps/Motorola/Language/Mathematica.app/Mathematica
-NXHost ray
TERM: Undefined variable.
(except for reporting the undefined variable TERM).
If I use OpenSesame I get a panel:
Can't seem to execute commands on 'raven' -
check Help for possible reasons why
and if I look in /tmp/console.log I see the following:
OpenSesame: Open on raven
OpenSesame: rsh raven /bin/true 2>&1; echo $? failed - 'TERM: Undefined
variable.
'
Does anybody have an idea what's happening here?
Thanks in advance for any help.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932
Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at
Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft
------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where can Cryptor.bundle be found???
Date: 3 Jan 1996 05:43:52 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4cd530$dff@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4cd2aa$9ff@blackbird.afit.af.mil>
Eric Baenen wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where Cryptor.bundle can be ftp'ed from? It
> doesn't appear to be on cs.orst anymore. Has it gone commercial?
I imagine that Cryptor.bundle has never been available at any
FTP site in the United States. Our laws probably turn that into
a munition, and putting munitions up for anonymous FTP can cause
some government agencies to take lots of interest in your ftp
server. Probably more interest than you want them to take.
So, it's available at European ftp sites, such as
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Probably try somewhere down in directory
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextime
Date: 3 Jan 1996 13:56:41 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ce1up$dij@news4.digex.net>
References: <4bvvhm$4sg@cyberE.creative.net> <slrn4ec42v.306.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com> <4ccvkb$2da@shellx.best.com>
john@nextdoor.com (John McCracken) wrote:
> Damn! And I was just getting ready to fork over $99 to buy it
> from OpenSource. Is it worth it? What percentage of QT movies
> are unplayable with NEXTIME? Where can I get more info on it?
I find the ones that will work under windows will generally work
under NS as well (this is not an absolute rule). Than again I
don't use QT/NT a lot...
--
Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only...
Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P)
jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scanner Software
Date: 3 Jan 1996 17:31:38 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ceehq$e8p@news4.digex.net>
Anyone have experiences with scanner software w/ NS?
OCR, copying, faxing, scanning...what are the better apps?
What scanners work well for you?
Thanks much :)
--
Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only...
Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P)
jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scanner & OCR Software
Date: 3 Jan 1996 17:55:58 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4cefve$e8p@news4.digex.net>
References: <4ceehq$e8p@news4.digex.net>
John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
> Anyone have experiences with scanner software w/ NS?
> OCR, copying, faxing, scanning...what are the better apps?
> What scanners work well for you?
Also, I just realized that the OCR compenent deserves some attention
all to itself... So in addition what are the best OCR apps under
NS?
Thanks very much for any insight...
--
Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only...
Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P)
jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.transputer
Subject: Problems with NXTrans 2.0
Date: 3 Jan 1996 17:24:44 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <4cee4s$hp5@netty.york.ac.uk>
Is anyone else out there using NXTrans 2.0 to drive a B008 under NeXTStep ?
I have the package but can't get it to work for the life of me ! The problem
seems to be that the device it creates ( /dev/b004 ) has the same major and
minor device numvbers as the device for the next printer ( /dev/np0 ). Can
anyone point me in the direction of the authors of the s/ware or give me some
hints as to how to make it work ?
-bat.
PS: Why is there a /dev/np0 on a white hardware machine anyway ???!!!
From: Dan Nichols <dan@kypris.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Reading DOS-formatted Zip disks?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 11:57:21 -0600
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Message-ID: <30EAC381.5123@kypris.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi all.
There was a flurry of posts a while back about DOS-formatted Zip disks
on the NeXT.
Did anyone ever solve this problem?
I am running NS3.3 on Black hardware, I also have the mentioned patch
from NextAnswers installed (did that prior to 3.3 upgrade)
When I pop in a DOS disk, it tells me it's unitialized, do I want to
initialize it? It offers me DOS as an option, but dies if I select DOS,
says it isn't supported.
Why can't it read the disk to start with? It is already formatted and
has files on it.
HAS ANYONE SOLVED THIS???
--
Daniel A. Nichols Voice: (214) 790-7255
2905 Lawrence St. Fax: (214) 790-2950
Irving TX 75061-6645 Email: dan@kypris.com
LP 40,45,64 NeXTMail welcome!
Web:<http://rampages.onramp.net/~dan>
From: mdaniels@wnjlaw.com(Mike Daniels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ElectroFile
Date: 3 Jan 1996 17:11:00 GMT
Organization: Houston Supernet& Tulsa Supernet
Message-ID: <4cedb4$iei@lurch.sccsi.com>
Is there anyone else who has used this program, or still uses it? We're
having strange problems with the program, but Insight Software doesn't
support it anymore, having gotten out of the software business.
Specifically, we're having occasional problems accessing libraries over a
network, with error messages like "This library is being stubborn." In other
libraries, we get a "Couldn't make document" error when we try to add a new
document to the library. Unlike some of the other problems we have, this one
appears to be permanent.
If anyone has had any experiences with this program, I would greatly
appreciate the help.
Mike Daniels
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scanner & OCR Software
Date: 3 Jan 1996 20:02:36 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4cencs$e8p@news4.digex.net>
References: <4ceehq$e8p@news4.digex.net> <4cefve$e8p@news4.digex.net>
John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
> > Anyone have experiences with scanner software w/ NS?
> > OCR, copying, faxing, scanning...what are the better apps?
Well I did a little research so hopefully now I can frame my questions in a
more useful direction...
I guess the two most important issues are:
1) Does the app work on intel hardware?
2) Is there academic pricing on this stuff so there is a
chance in heck I'll be able to afford it :)
I still have questions as to the abilities of the various OCRing
programs...(?)
Their ability to guess at fonts, typestyles, use dictionaries to
guess/increase accuracy, how well they integrate with scanning
software (i.e. batch feeder OCRing) and support of the developer....
Any help would be great, here's what I got so far:
Product | Fonts | Style | Spelling | Integration | Accuracy | Support
| | italic | Context |
------------------------------------------------------------------------
OCRServant N N N? Service ? ?
eXTRAREAD Y Y N? eXTRASCAN? ? ?
ExpressOCR ? ? N? ? ? ?
VISUS ? ? ? ? ? ?
Others (are there anymore of note)
I still have questions as to the abilities of the various scanning
programs...(?)
The quality of color calibration between input and output, support
for on the fly (service) faxing and copying (via batch sheet feader,
collating), how well they integrate with other software (i.e. batch
feeder OCRing), the diversity of hardware supported, and support
of the developer.... Any help would be great, here's what I got
so far:
Product | Color | Fax/Copy | Integration | Hardware | Support
| Calibration | support |
---------------------------------------------------------------------
PloarStorm ? ? ? Old? ?
ScanTastic N? ? ? ? ?
ScanOmatic ? Y? ScanOcopy Newer? Y?
eXTRASCAN Y? Y? ?eXTRAREAD? Newer? Y?
HSD ScanX N? ? MetroCopy? Old? N?
Thanks again for the help!
--
Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only...
Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P)
jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scanner & OCR Software (fixed formatting)
Date: 3 Jan 1996 20:11:00 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4censk$e8p@news4.digex.net>
References: <4ceehq$e8p@news4.digex.net> <4cefve$e8p@news4.digex.net> <4cencs$e8p@news4.digex.net>
Cryn out loud, sorry about the bad formatting in the last message, this
should fix things...
John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
> > John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
> > > Anyone have experiences with scanner software w/ NS? OCR,
> > > copying, faxing, scanning...what are the better apps?
> Well I did a little research so hopefully now I can frame my
> questions in a more useful direction...
> I guess the two most important issues are:
> 1) Does the app work on intel hardware? 2) Is there academic
> pricing on this stuff so there is a chance in heck I'll be
> able to afford it :)
> I still have questions as to the abilities of the various OCRing
> programs...(?)
> Their ability to guess at fonts, typestyles, use dictionaries
> to guess/increase accuracy, how well they integrate with scanning
> software (i.e. batch feeder OCRing) and support of the
> developer.... Any help would be great, here's what I got so
> far:
>Product | Fonts | Style | Spelling | Integration | Accuracy | Support
> | | italic | Context |
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>OCRServant N N N? Service ? ?
>eXTRAREAD Y Y N? eXTRASCAN? ? ?
>ExpressOCR ? ? N? ? ? ?
>VISUS ? ? ? ? ? ?
>Others (are there anymore of note)
> I still have questions as to the abilities of the various
> scanning programs...(?)
> The quality of color calibration between
> input and output, support for on the fly (service) faxing and
> copying (via batch sheet feader, collating), how well they
> integrate with other software (i.e. batch feeder OCRing), the
> diversity of hardware supported, and support of the developer....
> Any help would be great, here's what I got so far:
>Product | Color | Fax/Copy | Integration | Hardware | Support
> | Calibration | support |
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>PloarStorm ? ? ? Old? ?
>ScanTastic N? ? ? ? ?
>ScanOmatic ? Y? ScanOcopy Newer? Y?
>eXTRASCAN Y? Y? ?eXTRAREAD ?Newer? Y?
>HSD ScanX N? ? MetroCopy? Old? N?
> Thanks again for the help!
--
Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
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NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only...
Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P)
jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: Eric P Baenen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anyone have cryptor.bundle working under 3.3?
Date: 3 Jan 1996 20:24:23 GMT
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <4ceoln$efg@blackbird.afit.af.mil>
References: <4cd2aa$9ff@blackbird.afit.af.mil>
Keywords: mail cryptor pgp
Has anyone been successful in getting cryptor.bundle to work under 3.3?
I have ftped and installed according to directions and it seems to work
fine except for one small problem. I can't get it to read my keyring in
~/.pgp or add any new keys using the Encryption Keys window.
I have also installed encipher and it works just fine with my keyring.
Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
Thanks,
Eric
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Reading DOS-formatted Zip disks?
Date: 3 Jan 1996 14:32:01 -0700
Organization: A Big Black Cube
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4ceskh$36d@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <30EAC381.5123@kypris.com>
Dan Nichols <dan@kypris.com> wrote:
> Hi all.
> There was a flurry of posts a while back about DOS-formatted Zip disks
> on the NeXT.
>
> Did anyone ever solve this problem?
>
> I am running NS3.3 on Black hardware, I also have the mentioned patch
> from NextAnswers installed (did that prior to 3.3 upgrade)
>
> When I pop in a DOS disk, it tells me it's unitialized, do I want to
> initialize it? It offers me DOS as an option, but dies if I select DOS,
> says it isn't supported.
>
> Why can't it read the disk to start with? It is already formatted and
> has files on it.
>
> HAS ANYONE SOLVED THIS???
Now this is wierd, I run a patched NS 3.3 as well, and mine reads & writes
DOS formatted ZIPS fine, however, it will not format them. They usually
show up as a NeXT OD icon with a 'DOS' or the "apple" superimposed on them.
A NeXT-formatted ZIP shows up with a SCSI Icon. Although I have no trouble
with DOS formats, I usually use mine to transfer data easily between my
Daydream and NeXT sessions (Mac-formatted). NeXT will only format these
cartridges as NeXT or Mac, never DOS. You need a DOS machine to format a
ZIP as DOS, or, format it as NeXT & dump it in a Mac & select dos format.
--
Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS
Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
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From: lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz
Subject: OmniWeb 2.0 question
Message-ID: <137cc$13320.3df@news>
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 18:03:32 GMT
Hi all!
I can't find any way to create 'folder' in personal bookmarks window (the
filled dot). Any clue?
Bye Borek
--
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University of J.E.Purkyne, Usti nad Labem, Czech Republic
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From: dale@pegasus (Dale Brisinda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Demo App Source Release Policy?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 00:09:44 GMT
Organization: University of Calgary CPSC
Message-ID: <4cf5s8$bi2@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Can anyone provide me with an e-mail contact address for someone at NeXT regarding
their source release policy for a specific demonstration application? The info panel of the
application I'm interested in simply says "contact NeXT for any questions on source
release policy" without providing any additional information.
Thanks for *any* information,
Dale
---
Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student | We write in sand the benefits we
Dept. of Computer Science | receive, but injuries upon marble.
University of Calgary | -- Sir Thomas More (1477?-1535)
brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (NeXTmail)
WWW: http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextime
Date: 4 Jan 1996 05:07:38 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4emkfh.82m.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <4bvvhm$4sg@cyberE.creative.net> <slrn4ec42v.306.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com> <4ccvkb$2da@shellx.best.com>
On 3 Jan 1996 04:10:51 GMT, John McCracken <john@nextdoor.com> wrote:
> Damn! And I was just getting ready to fork over $99 to buy it from
> OpenSource. Is it worth it? What percentage of QT movies are
> unplayable with NEXTIME? Where can I get more info on it?
If you have access to a Mac, I'd suggest going there for your QT needs. The
editors, compressors and viewers are better. If NS is all you can work
with, I'd suggest putting off purchasing NEXTIME until 4.0 comes out because
NS4 might come with a more robust NEXTIME.
I don't have any figures on the number of QT animations out there, however I
believe NEXTIME is significantly less capable than previously estimated. Its
inability to completely play some composite animations initially compressed
with a decodable compressor (Road Pizza & Cinepak to name a couple) severely
hinder NEXTIME's effectiveness.
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.0 question
Date: 04 Jan 1996 04:20:42 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <CRATH.96Jan3232042@bmerhe83.bnr.ca>
References: <137cc$13320.3df@news>
In-reply-to: lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz's message of Wed, 03 Jan 1996 18:03:32 GMT
The only way I could find to do it was:
1. Add a new bookmark (even one for your home page)
2. Select the new bookmark with a single click
3. Open the Inspector ([shift]-[cmd]-I)
4. Remove the URL from the bookmark and it will turn into a new `folder'
Christopher
--
=== Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 ===
Bell-Northern Research |
Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless
Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns
FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: Shaun Foy (sfoy@zoology.ubc.ca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.0 question
Date: 4 Jan 1996 05:30:22 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <4cfole$fm4@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <CRATH.96Jan3232042@bmerhe83.bnr.ca>
In article <CRATH.96Jan3232042@bmerhe83.bnr.ca> crath@bnr.ca (Christopher
Rath) writes:
> The only way I could find to do it was:
> 1. Add a new bookmark (even one for your home page)
> 2. Select the new bookmark with a single click
> 3. Open the Inspector ([shift]-[cmd]-I)
> 4. Remove the URL from the bookmark and it will turn into a new
`folder'
>
Am I correct in understanding that all you would like to do is
to create a 'folder' in your bookmarks page - one that will contain
bookmarks when opened? If that is what you want to do then all you
have to do is open your bookmark window and hit <return>. It
will open a folder below the line it was on. Name the folder and
place it wherever you like.
Regards,
Shaun.
--
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| -/\ ___\o \ o | o / o/___ /\- |
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<A HREF="http://philos.resnet.ubc.ca/~sfoy">sfoy@zoology.ubc.ca</A>
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite2...perhaps a UI overhaul?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 06:59:01 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4emr0a.82m.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <4bg54i$8t6@news4.digex.net> <RDL.95Dec26012625@world.std.com> <4bvphf$g21@usc.edu>
On 29 Dec 1995 04:07:11 GMT, Matthew N. Reichman <reichman@scf.usc.edu> wrote:
> As far as I have understood, AFS is not planning on further developing WU.
> This, at least, is the impression I got from Greg. Maybe I misunderstood
> him or maybe it was just the holiday blues.
Any word on PasteUp?
> (and I think it's a bit too soon to criticize Lighthouse for any OW
> shortcomings) then FM on OpenStep seems to be the best bet.
In my opinion, when a company releases something they are ready to receive
the compliments and complaints. Has Frame on OpenStep been announced? I'd
be a little surprised to see this happen. A common source-code base is
handy for everyone, but I was under the impression Adobe was distancing
themselves from NS for app support.
From: Shaun Foy (sfoy@zoology.ubc.ca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmers
Subject: Compiling WU-FTPD - missing authuser.h
Date: 4 Jan 1996 08:33:37 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Message-ID: <4cg3d1$gsu@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Anyone compiled wu-ftpd recently? I try and get an exit 1 saying
the authuser.h file is not present. Is that file supposed to be
distributed with wu-ftpd or is it supposed to be on my machine?
[NS3.2developer]
Ciao and thanks in advance,
Shaun.
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From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems with MouseX
Message-ID: <1996Jan4.093910.45852@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 4 Jan 96 09:39:10 MET
Keywords: X11, MouseX
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
Hi,
I'm having some problems running MouseX on my nonTurbo monochrome machine.
I can run all the different window managers, and applications work fine
under X, but I cannot switch back to the nextstep environment. both
keyboard shortcuts did not work, and exiting from the X environment
normally blackens the screen and I have to reboot. The only way to
get out at the moment is to use the fvwm (which I like a lot) and
producing a crash by switching to a non existant wm, which I put in
the menu, this kills X and Xfe and I got messages in the console
about lost server link or something like that.
Another problem with X: How can I tell X (MouseX) that I have a
german keyboard! I don't worry about the z<->y exchange but I cannot
remember the positions of /\| and other important characters.
Thanx a lot and a happy new year
************************************************************
Daniel Haas
Physikalisches Institut
Universitaet Basel
email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please)
"Bill Gates wife has informed him that the deployment of
Bill Gates IV has been delayed for another 6 months due to
a redesign of the user interface."
************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hhoff@flop.lb.bawue.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer with nntp: high load, try again later
Message-ID: <DKnLwp.tM@flop.lb.bawue.de>
Sender: news@flop.lb.bawue.de
Organization: home
References: <DKK0sz.1ro@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 11:14:49 GMT
Juergen Sell wrote:
> I switched to running Newsgrazer via nntp on my private machine. Now on many
> occasion I get a 'high load on nntp host, try again later' message when
> starting NG.
> As this has not happened when I played with other NewsReaders I expect this
> to be a feature of NG, version 77.
Nope: happens also with RadicalNews and tin on my machine.
I use the (great!) NeGeN CNews package and the provided nntpd.
> Is there a workaround to this? I'd rather have me decide about impact of
> load on my machine. The default behaviour is obviously not suitable for me.
Just wait and make sure the machine sits idle for a few seconds.
Works for me.
Maybe it's a fixed compile-time option for nntpd?
Anybody from NeGeN care to enlighten us? :)
-holger
From: senger@csfac.uwlax.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: A Postscript/Color Printer Question
Date: 4 Jan 1996 14:52:42 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
Message-ID: <4cgpjq$cqm@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu>
I have a Kodak Colorease printer. I have noticed that printed colors do
not always correspond well with screen colors. Up until now I have just
ignored this but am now investigating the cause.
Using WordPerfect I have created a file with text in various colors. I
save this file to .ps using the print panel. I also create a file using
concurrence and save this to a .eps file. Opening up the postscript for
each I find that they have identical BeginProcSet sections. To make sure
that exactly the same colors are being used I copied the following lines
from the .ps to the .eps files.
1 0.8 0.33 setrgbcolor
72 258 moveto
(Text and More Text) show
0.578265 0.635151 0.986206 setrgbcolor
72 291 moveto
(Text and More Text) show
0.330062 0.362521 0.562902 setrgbcolor
72 323 moveto
On the screen both files have identical colors for the text. When printed
the mostly blue colors (2nd and 3rd above) are significantly paler in the
eps version. The yellow/tan color (1st above) is nearly white in the .eps
version. Clearly there is some difference in the postscript context being
used to print the two files but I am at a loss as to where to start
looking. I noticed that the .eps seemed to use nxsetrgbcolor while the .ps
file used setrgbcolor. Replacing setrgbcolor with nxsetrgbcolor does not
seem to make a difference.
Any explanations or things to look at.
Please respond by email.
- steve
senger@csfac.uwlax.edu
From: silbar@beep.roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextime
Date: 4 Jan 1996 09:20:39 -0700
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Message-ID: <4cguon$7qu@beep.roadrunner.com>
References: <4bvvhm$4sg@cyberE.creative.net> <slrn4ec42v.306.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com> <4ccvkb$2da@shellx.best.com> <slrn4emkfh.82m.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
J.D. Nicholson wrote:
Its
inability to completely play some composite animations initially compressed
with a decodable compressor (Road Pizza & Cinepak to name a couple) severely
hinder NEXTIME's effectiveness.
I'm not sure what is meant by "composite animations", but I've been able
to play Road Pizza and Cinepak coded .mov files with Nextime (or however
the capitalization goes).
Dick Silbar
WhistleSoft, Inc.
From: ????@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (????)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FTPD Logon message?
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:16:07 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services - The Ohio State Univ.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <????.19.30EC0B57@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
When running the FTP Daemon on the NeXT...I'd like it to send a
message to users as they log on (before entering user/pass). Is
this just a matter of putting a text file in the correct place...or
is there a configuration issue with FTPD?
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated...please be explicit as I
am new to this machine...and have not yet gotten acquainted very
well to it.
Thanks in advance!!
-Robert J. Hodgeman
rhodgema@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 3.3Mail.app adds 8 header lines where body of message begins?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 19:48:58 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4chava$k2m@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
I just upgraded my Color Turbo to 3.3 (with patches) and everything
works great except that to every outgoing message, Mail.app adds 8
header lines at the point where the body of the message should begin
(i.e., after skipping a line from the usual 4-line header). Also, in
the usual header "To" field, it puts "Apparently-To" instead.
Has anyone seen this behavior? Any help would be greatly
appreciated. I am using the Robert La Ferla's sendmail8.7.3 pkg that I
downloaded from orst (after installing the 3.3patches). It works fine:
I tested out sendmail after the upgrade by using 3.2Mail.app and elm.
Neither of these mail programs add extra header lines to outgoing
messages.
For maximum specificity, here is a copy of a test message I recently
sent using 3.3Mail.app, as it showed up in the Active.mbox of another
NeXT machine:
> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 12:52:21 -0800 (PST)
> From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Ed Zalta)
> Apparently-To: <textor@meinong.stanford.edu>
>
> >From zalta Thu Dec 28 12:52:21 1995
> Content-Type: text/plain
> MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2)
> From: Ed Zalta <zalta>
> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 95 12:52:21 -0800
> To: textor@meinong.stanford.edu
> Subject: test message
>
> This is a test message.
> Ed
--
Edward N. Zalta
Senior Researcher
Center for the Study of Language and Information
Stanford University
http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html
From: mcutler@u.washington.edu (Mark Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT printer power off software?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 23:00:01 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <4chm5h$h8s@nntp5.u.washington.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: mcutler
Keywords: printer
I am hoping to locate software (if it exists) that automatically shuts
down the printer if it has not been used for some fixed time period (such
as every fifteen minutes). I realize that I can use crontab to issue
the nppower off command on that interval, but I would prefer that the
printer not power up every fifteen minutes.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for your help.
MC
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OneVision
Date: 3 Jan 1996 08:33:52 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <4cdf1g$1bv@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
Hi:
I just got the OneVision CD and I installed the software. Looks like
an extensive piece of work. Anybody knew this was in the works?
I remember hearing about it months ago and I must have send a request
for information and that's how they sent me the CD.
Anybody care to shed some light on its philosophy/approach to prepress
and DTP?
Is Tailor in trouble? OneVision can open/Edit PS, EPS, PDF.
Thanks.
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: kym@empire.com.au (Kym Oberauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing RTF files....
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 12:41:06 +0100
Organization: Empire Ridge
Message-ID: <kym-0501961241060001@202.14.79.171>
Hi,
I'm having a lot of trouble printing RTF files. I am limited to printing
customised letters on one page but cant get the text to fit because of the
5cm headers and footers. I've tried adjusting these using Edit but cant
find any commands to do so. I also copied the letter to Word for Windows,
adjusted the header and footer to 2cm each and saved it as an RTF. When I
copied it back to the NeXT and printed it the 5cm boarders had reapeared.
So, is there any way to adjust the header and footer of an RTF to less
than the 5cm that keeps occuring on the NeXT ?
Thanks,
Kym.
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com (Mark Tarbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT printer power off software?
Date: 5 Jan 1996 00:56:09 GMT
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4chsv9$5l1@radical1.radical.com>
References: <4chm5h$h8s@nntp5.u.washington.edu>
In <4chm5h$h8s@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Mark Cutler wrote, in part:
> I am hoping to locate software (if it exists) that automatically shuts
> down the printer if it has not been used for some fixed time period...
Call this from rc.local:
/usr/local/etc/nppowerd 20
/*
* nppowerd.c rjesse 19 oct 92
*
* This daemon turns off a NeXT 400 dpi printer (/dev/np0)
* that has been idle for more than "interval" minutes.
*
* Usage: nppowerd [interval minutes]
*/
#define INTERVAL (60*60) /* 60 minute default */
#include <stdio.h>
#include <bsd/sys/types.h>
#include <mach/boolean.h>
#include <bsd/sys/ioctl.h>
#include <bsd/sys/file.h>
#include <bsd/sys/stat.h>
#include <bsd/dev/m68k/npio.h>
char printer[] = "/dev/np0";
time_t
pmtime() {
struct stat pstat;
if (stat(printer, &pstat) < 0) {
fputs("nppowerd: ", stderr);
perror(printer);
exit(1);
}
return pstat.st_mtime;
}
turnpoff() {
struct npop op;
register pfd;
extern errno;
errno = 0;
if ((pfd=open(printer, O_WRONLY, 0)) < 0)
return errno;
op.np_op = NPSETPOWER;
op.np_power = 0;
ioctl(pfd, NPIOCPOP, &op);
close(pfd);
return errno;
}
main(ac, av)
int ac;
char **av;
{
time_t offtime, mtime, idle;
register interval = INTERVAL;
if (ac > 2) {
fputs("Usage: nppowerd [minutes]\n", stderr);
return 1;
}
switch (fork()) {
default:
return 0;
case -1:
return 1;
case 0:
; /* child */
}
if (ac > 1)
interval = atoi(av[1]) * 60;
if (interval<60 || interval>(24*60*60) )
interval = INTERVAL;
/*
* it seems (see NP(4)) to be impossible to test whether the
* printer is on or off without first turning it on - opening
* the device, even without O_WRONLY, turns it on. so we assume
* that upon nppowerd invocation (probably from /etc/rc) that
* the printer is on (it gets turned on during the boot sequence).
*/
offtime = 0;
mtime = pmtime();
while (1) {
if (mtime != offtime) {
/* there has been some printer activity */
while ((idle = time() - mtime) < interval) {
sleep(interval-idle+1);
mtime = pmtime();
}
if (turnpoff() == 0)
offtime = mtime = pmtime();
}
sleep(interval);
mtime = pmtime();
}
}
From: pgriffin@tiac.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextime
Date: 5 Jan 1996 04:31:58 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <4ci9ju$4it@sundog.tiac.net>
References: <4bvvhm$4sg@cyberE.creative.net> <slrn4ec42v.306.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com> <4ccvkb$2da@shellx.best.com> <slrn4emkfh.82m.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com> <4cguon$7qu@beep.roadrunner.com>
silbar@beep.roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar) wrote:
> J.D. Nicholson wrote:
> Its
> inability to completely play some composite animations initially
compressed
> with a decodable compressor (Road Pizza & Cinepak to name a couple)
severely
> hinder NEXTIME's effectiveness.
I would like to see a port of xanim (www.portal.com/~podlipec/home.html)
to nextstep. xanim is an x application which plays nearly all
avi and quicktime movies. It's free, comes with source which is covered by
a gnu type licence, and works great.
Some enterprising young student could probably do the port in a couple of
months. In return, he/she would gets lots of visibility and a probably
good shot at some decent nextstep programming jobs for the effort...
--Paul Griffin pgriffin@tiac.net
From: teach@li.net (Parisi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Publisher Seeks Software or Multimedia Titles
Date: 5 Jan 1996 04:44:04 GMT
Organization: LI Net (Long Island Network)
Message-ID: <4ciaak$l0s@linet02.li.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
Dear Authors,
Arrowhead Enterprises is currently looking for software or multimedia
titles for distribution. We have helped many new and seasoned authors get their
work published. We are most interested in finished products. However, we would
consider financing a work in progress. We aren't looking for any high budget
projects.
If you are interested please send me a demo, or several screen
captures. A brief overview of what your project is all about would also be
helpful.
I will personally evaluate each submission and return your work within
a reasonable time and include my feeback.
Thanks,
teach@li.net
Distribution Manager
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OneVision
Date: 5 Jan 1996 06:14:06 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4cifje$3ee@news4.digex.net>
References: <4cdf1g$1bv@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) wrote:
> I just got the OneVision CD and I installed the software. Looks
> like an extensive piece of work. Anybody knew this was in the
> works? I remember hearing about it months ago and I must have
> send a request for information and that's how they sent me the
> CD.
> Anybody care to shed some light on its philosophy/approach to
> prepress and DTP?
> Is Tailor in trouble? OneVision can open/Edit PS, EPS, PDF.
Sounds nice. Do they have a web site? I'd like to get the CD as
well to check it out...
--
Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only...
Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P)
jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: RTFD signature possible in NeXTmail and MIMEmail?
Date: 5 Jan 1996 06:40:15 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-10.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4cih4f$508@usc.edu>
Would this be possible?
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scanner & OCR Software (partial summary)
Date: 5 Jan 1996 07:08:17 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ciip1$6jq@news4.digex.net>
References: <4ceehq$e8p@news4.digex.net> <4cefve$e8p@news4.digex.net> <4cencs$e8p@news4.digex.net> <4censk$e8p@news4.digex.net>
John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
>Product | Fonts | Style | Spelling | Integration | Accuracy | Support
> | | italic | Context |
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>OCRServant N N N? Service ? ?
!eXTRAREAD YY YY ?? eXTRASCAN Good Good
!ExpressOCR NN NN N? ? ? ?
>VISUS ? ? ? ? ? ?
>Others (are there anymore of note)
>Product | Color | Fax/Copy | Integration | Hardware | Support
> | Calibration | support |
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>PloarStorm ? ? ? Old? ?
!ScanTastic YY YY ? Newer eh
!ScanOmatic YY YY ScanOcopy Newer OK
!eXTRASCAN YY NN eXTRAREAD Newer Good
>HSD ScanX N? ? MetroCopy? Old? N?
! above are updated info lines...
Well, I got some information, and thought I'd summarize to the
net...It all depends on what scanner you will be using...I'm taking
advantage of a great deal, Epson ES800C, sheetfeeder, transparency
adapter all for $500 bux!!!
Anyway, generally the best software for scanning/faxing/copying
seems to be Scantastic (especially for the Epson scanners)--about
300bux.
Now if you are interested in OCRing, the best* combo is eXTRASCAN
(eXTRASCAN doesn't do batch copying and faxing like the other
products) and eXTRAREAD; eXTRAREAD will scan in batches through a
sheetfeeder and maintain font and style attributes--about 1100bux
for the combo. The best of all worlds is to get all three, but
I'm not made of money; after all I have my starving student gig to
maintain ;-)
Both companies have EDU discounts.
*Now I have no info on VISUS so that might be better at OCRing...
If you have a non Epson scanner, ScanOmatic might be good...It
seems to have more 'filter' processes...but I prefer to do those
in a painting program like WetPaint anyway...
Of all 3 companies GSCorp (the eXTRA products) is probably the most
'commited' and responsive. It would be great to see GS add
faxing/copying to eXTRASCAN (collated option would be awesome, or
maybe even a batch Scan-->OCR-->Copy(Print)/Fax !!). It would also
be great if they increased their EDU discount ;-)
Hope that helps...
--
Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only...
Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P)
jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there interest in a font converter that can import TrueType to NS
Date: 5 Jan 1996 01:04:05 GMT
Organization: my own
Message-ID: <4chte5$qe5@gate.seicom.net>
Hi Guys!
As the author of FontConvert (a free font converting utility for importing Mac/PC type 1
fonts to NS - available from my home page or the peanuts archive) I'd like to ask you if
you want it to import TrueType fonts too.
I know it will be quite a lot of work but if there is some interest maybe I can get it up it until
spring. Let me know if you'd like such a tool.
- Frank
---
Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank
NeXTSTEP & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C ga ga"
From: asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTSTEP 4.0
Date: 5 Jan 1996 12:28:08 GMT
Organization: International Turnkey Systems
Message-ID: <4cj5go$omh@dns.itsq8.com>
Did NeXT specify a release date for the above?
Thanx.
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 4.0
Date: 5 Jan 1996 14:04:57 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4cjb69$t5c@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <4cj5go$omh@dns.itsq8.com>
In article <4cj5go$omh@dns.itsq8.com> asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan)
writes:
> Did NeXT specify a release date for the above?
At last ObjectWorld, they were talking about Q2 '96, bt this wasn't an
announcement as such.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk
Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems
Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Scanner & OCR Software (partial summary/reformatted!)
Date: 5 Jan 1996 14:48:52 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4cjdol$94i@news4.digex.net>
References: <4ceehq$e8p@news4.digex.net> <4cefve$e8p@news4.digex.net> <4cencs$e8p@news4.digex.net> <4censk$e8p@news4.digex.net> <4ciip1$6jq@news4.digex.net>
Good grief...Alexadra must re-wrap these things... hopefully this will fix the bad
formatting...
John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
>Product | Fonts | Style | Spelling | Integration | Accuracy | Support
> | | italic | Context |
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>OCRServant N N N? Service ? ?
!eXTRAREAD YY YY ?? eXTRASCAN Good Good
!ExpressOCR NN NN N? ? ? ?
>VISUS ? ? ? ? ? ?
>Others (are there anymore of note)
>Product | Color | Fax/Copy | Integration | Hardware | Support
> | Calibration | support |
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>PloarStorm ? ? ? Old? ?
!ScanTastic YY YY ? Newer eh
!ScanOmatic YY YY ScanOcopy Newer OK
!eXTRASCAN YY NN eXTRAREAD Newer Good
>HSD ScanX N? ? MetroCopy? Old? N?
! above are updated info lines...
Well, I got some information, and thought I'd summarize to the
net...It all depends on what scanner you will be using...I'm taking
advantage of a great deal, Epson ES800C, sheetfeeder, transparency
adapter all for $500 bux!!!
Anyway, generally the best software for scanning/faxing/copying
seems to be Scantastic (especially for the Epson scanners)--about
300bux.
Now if you are interested in OCRing, the best* combo is eXTRASCAN
(eXTRASCAN doesn't do batch copying and faxing like the other
products) and eXTRAREAD; eXTRAREAD will scan in batches through a
sheetfeeder and maintain font and style attributes--about 1100bux
for the combo. The best of all worlds is to get all three, but
I'm not made of money; after all I have my starving student gig to
maintain ;-)
Both companies have EDU discounts. *Now I have no info on VISUS
so that might be better at OCRing...
If you have a non Epson scanner, ScanOmatic might be good...It
seems to have more 'filter' processes...but I prefer to do those
in a painting program like WetPaint anyway...
Of all 3 companies GSCorp (the eXTRA products) is probably the most
'commited' and responsive. It would be great to see GS add
faxing/copying to eXTRASCAN (collated option would be awesome, or
maybe even a batch Scan-->OCR-->Copy(Print)/Fax !!). It would also
> be great if they increased their EDU discount ;-)
Hope that helps...
--
Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only...
Telepathy, It's coming | MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP (3P)
jkheit@cnj.digex.net | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: hhoff@flop.lb.bawue.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Subject: Re: Reading DOS-formatted Zip disks?
Message-ID: <DKpLHG.1H1@flop.lb.bawue.de>
Sender: news@flop.lb.bawue.de
Organization: home
References: <30EAC381.5123@kypris.com> <4ceskh$36d@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:00:52 GMT
Robert Worne wrote:
> Dan Nichols <dan@kypris.com> wrote:
> ..various problems re-initializing DOS media..
I have a Syquest 270 drive and exactly the same problem.
The easy solution: get Brian Willoughby's <brianw@sounds.wa.com>
most excellent sdformat utility and use this to do a low-level
format of the medium. After that, Workspace will initialize
with DOS just fine. The only problem is that you have to do this
as root, since WS grabs the inserted medium and locks it..
-holger
From: ccwoon@pop.jaring.my (Cheong Chee Woon)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.list-admin.software,biz.comp.software,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: N E E D Answering machine s/w
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 09:24:03 GMT
Organization: Unconfigured
Message-ID: <4cjffi$jkm@jaring.my>
Anyone could help me ? Where to get the following software. ftp from
where ?
1) A Phone recorder software which utilities the sound card and the
modem.
2) A phone answering machine which also utilities the sound card and
the modem. The software will answer the phone call if the host is not
in house.
3) A software use to check the speed of a cache controller. Use to
compare how much faster a cache controller with a normal controller.
4) A speed recognision software. Human speak and the computer will
translate to computer form character. The was demo in the T.V. Last
month.
Thank IN advance of you opinion and help
BTW, need advise where is the actual newsgroup should I post to in
order to get a good result , reflect
------------------------------------
Cheong Chee Woon
E-mail : ccwoon@pop.jaring.my
Tel : +603 4238121
Setapak Garden, Kuala Lumpur, M'sia
Don't worry, Be Happy....
Please advise me where to post to, In order to get good effect.
-----------------------------------
From: htirrell@ix.netcom.com(Harry Tirrell )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC
Date: 5 Jan 1996 16:46:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <4cjklm$lkl@ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>
Can anyone point me to an IRC for NeXTStep 3.3
Thanks
Harry
From: J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose M Figueroa-O'Farrill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Help! Problems with mail in NS3.3 (Intel)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 05 Jan 1996 17:23:15 GMT
Organization: Theory Group, Physics, QMW College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <J.M.FIGUEROA.96Jan5172315@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk>
Hi,
One of our Nextstep machines (Pentium running NS 3.3) is having
problems mailing to the outside world. This is not the only such
machine we have and all the other ones are working fine -- and as far
as I can see they have been configured identically.
Here's a sample error:
----- Transcript of session follows -----
While connected to epsilon:
>>> MAIL From:<jmf@strings9>
<<< 501 Unknown domain 'strings9'
554 j.m.figueroa@qmw.ac.uk... 554 Remote protocol error
----- Unsent message follows -----
Return-Path: <jmf>
Received: by strings9.ph.qmw.ac.uk (NX5.67e/NX3.0S)
id AA00202; Thu, 5 Jan 95 16:56:17 GMT
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 95 16:56:17 GMT
From: Jose M Figueroa-O'Farrill <jmf>
Message-Id: <9501051656.AA00202@strings9.ph.qmw.ac.uk>
To: j.m.figueroa@qmw.ac.uk
Subject: test
this is a test.
Has anyone seen this problem before??? Is this a problem at our end
or at the mailer's end? If so then I may try to push the matter
further with the college postmaster.
Many thanks in advance -- oh, and could you reply my email -- I will
post a summary if there is interest.
Cheers, Jose
--
+----------------------------------+----------------------------------+
| Dr Jose M Figueroa-O'Farrill | Vox: +44.171.975-5055 |
| Department of Physics (Rm. 227) | Fax: +44.181.981-7465 |
| Queen Mary and Westfield College | mailto:J.M.Figueroa@qmw.ac.uk |
| Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK | |
| and |
| http://stringswww.ph.qmw.ac.uk/~jmf/jmf.html |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Monitoring Audio Input
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DKq1Au.83y@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:42:30 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Is there a utility which will spit out the audio that's comming in through
the microphone in jack? I thought I'd ask before writing one myself.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Backup Software for DAT/EXABYTE ??
Message-ID: <30ED6C6D.5C@uwyo.edu>
From: Norbert Pirzkal <norbert@uwyo.edu>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 11:22:37 -0700
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Wyoming - Physics & Astronomy Department
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,
Is there ANY descent backup software for NeXTSTEP to backup
files to a DAT drive? I mean something besides tar... I am looking for
something that is menu driven and lets me easily backup multiple volumes
on one tape. I thought I had heard that there was some shareware
programs to do that but cannot seem to be able to locate any...
Thanks
Nor
From: marlow@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (Godwin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IRC
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 07:57:34 GMT
Organization: Black Fish Soft
Message-ID: <4cjveo$nt@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <4cjklm$lkl@ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>
There is a client in progress by Sean
http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~premise/
Don't think it is released yet tho
Godwin
htirrell@ix.netcom.com(Harry Tirrell ) wrote:
>Can anyone point me to an IRC for NeXTStep 3.3
>Thanks
>Harry
#include <Standard_Disclamer_Blah_Blah_Blah.h>
Godwin Membership Affairs Chair of Vancouver Regional Freenet.
Chair, Sierra Club (BC) OnLine Services Commitee.
It's funny how we feel so much.... cannot say a word...
We are screaming inside and can't be heard. - Sarah McLachlan
From: esky@cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AVI and MPEG players?
Date: 5 Jan 1996 20:54:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ck36m$10ro@saba.info.ucla.edu>
Keywords: avi,mpg,mpeg,nextime,movie
Hello,
I was wondering if there are any good AVI and MPEG players out there for
NEXTSTEP. If you know of any that can also play .fli and other common PC
movie/animation formats, I'd like to know about those too.
By the way, what formats does NEXTIME support? Only QuickTime? Does it
allow you to load in modules for MPEG, AVI, etc., and if so, are any such
moduiles currently available?
Thank you! If you can, please e-mail me.
- Eskandar
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eskandar Ensafi University of California, Los Angeles
esky@cs.ucla.edu (ASCII/MIME/NeXT) Department of Biomathematics
http://www.cs.ucla.edu/csd-lanai/fweb/esky NEXTSTEP Software Engineer
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Talking to Other Mailers
Date: 5 Jan 1996 14:56:09 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Message-ID: <4cje69$gma@abel.cc.sunysb.edu>
Is there mail software available that will allow attached files sent from
a machine running NS to show up as attached files in other popular mailers
(Eudora, Pegasus), etc?
It would be nice to be able to send mail with attached files from my
NeXTStation and have it be read properly in other mailer systems.
Please reply by email, and thanks in advance.
-Richard Larson
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backup Software for DAT/EXABYTE ??
Date: 5 Jan 1996 23:25:34 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ckc1e$hpu@trane.opensource.com>
References: <30ED6C6D.5C@uwyo.edu>
In article <30ED6C6D.5C@uwyo.edu> writes:
> Hi,
>
> Is there ANY descent backup software for NeXTSTEP to backup
> files to a DAT drive? I mean something besides tar... I am looking for
> something that is menu driven and lets me easily backup multiple volumes
> on one tape. I thought I had heard that there was some shareware
> programs to do that but cannot seem to be able to locate any...
>
> Thanks
> Nor
Well, I don't know about any "shareware" apps, but SafetyNet from Systemix
is an outstanding back-up solution for NEXTSTEP (take a look at
comp.sys.next.announce for information about our January Back-up Bundle
Special):
SafetyNet is a powerful backup and archiving application for computers
running the NEXTSTEP operating system. SafetyNet provides sophisticated
backup and restore capabilities with point and click simplicity.
SafetyNet saves files into archives, maintaining an on-line catalog of
each archive's contents that allows you to browse it as easily as you
would your hard disk. For each file in the archive the catalog contains
its name as well as information about its status (such as its last
modification date, owner, etc) and, more importantly, the file's location
in the archive. SafetyNet can retrieve a file in seconds rather than
hours by moving to its precise location in the archive. This high-speed
seeking capability is supported by DAT, on-line, and some 8mm devices.
SafetyNet gives you complete control over file selection allowing any
combination of files and directories to be selected for backup. You can
restrict backups to include only those files modified later than some date
and time, or since a selected profile was last executed, providing for
incremental backups. Commonly used backup selections may be saved as
SafetyNet backup Profiles which may be launched from the Workspace Manager
or scheduled for later, unattended, execution.
SafetyNet is available in both Professional and Personal versions. With
SafetyNet Professional you can backup any mounted UNIX file system (local
or NFS). SafetyNet Personal will backup any locally mounted UNIX file
systems.
SafetyNet Features
Fast, easy to use point-and-click interface
Full or incremental backups
Unattended scheduled backups
Drag'n'Drop Backup Scheduler
Compression
Extensive user control of file selections
Backup of remote NFS mounted file systems with
SafetyNet-Professional
On-line database and sophisticated device management
provide rapid access to
archived files
Intelligently reconstructs directory contents from
incremental backups
Smart link management allows you to restore a file from
any of its link names
Unlimited pathname length
Multi-volume support allows you to have archives of
virtually unlimited size
Labeled media prevents accidental use of the wrong volume
Integrated support for a wide variety of devices,
including:
DAT(All models)
8mm (Exabyte 8500 and 8200 derivatives)
On-line Disk
Third party support for any device with the optional
Device Integrator's Kit
Extensive on-line help
Four cube rating by NeXTWORLD Magazine (Fall 1992)
NeXTWORLD Magazine Best of Breed Award recipient (Spring
1993
---
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| Dan Gamble | OpenSource, Inc. |
| dan@opensource.com | THE Single Source for |
| (NeXTmail welcome) | NEXTSTEP Solutions |
| | |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom Hageman)
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer with nntp: high load, try again later
Message-ID: <DKqCvM.DB1@basil.icce.rug.nl>
Originator: root@obelix.icce.rug.nl
Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher)
Organization: Warty Wolfs
References: <DKK0sz.1ro@euler.hnv.icem.de> <DKnLwp.tM@flop.lb.bawue.de>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:52:34 GMT
hhoff@flop.lb.bawue.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
> Juergen Sell wrote:
> > I switched to running Newsgrazer via nntp on my private machine. Now on many
> > occasion I get a 'high load on nntp host, try again later' message when
> > starting NG.
> > As this has not happened when I played with other NewsReaders I expect this
> > to be a feature of NG, version 77.
>
> Nope: happens also with RadicalNews and tin on my machine.
> I use the (great!) NeGeN CNews package and the provided nntpd.
>
> > Is there a workaround to this? I'd rather have me decide about impact of
> > load on my machine. The default behaviour is obviously not suitable for me.
>
> Just wait and make sure the machine sits idle for a few seconds.
> Works for me.
>
> Maybe it's a fixed compile-time option for nntpd?
> Anybody from NeGeN care to enlighten us? :)
Yep ;)
It's indeed a compile-time option for nntpd. For NeGeN CNews I used the
`factory' setting of 5, meaning that the connection is refused when the news
server's load-average exceeds this.
Since the NeGeN CNews distribution is primarily targeted to standalone machines,
I'll consider disabling this load-average check altogether in the next release
(no definite date yet:). Let me know what you think...
--
__/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK]
__/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work)
__/__/__/
__/ _/_/ "Unix? What's that? Is that like Linux?"
From: wxli@harpy (Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: NeXTStep 3.0 CD: $35
Date: 6 Jan 1996 02:19:57 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock
Message-ID: <4ckm8d$une@news.ualr.edu>
Summary: NeXTStep 3.0 CD fro $35
I have a NeXTStep 3.0 CD for NeXTstation for sale at $35.
-wei,
wxli@ualr.edu
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anyone have cryptor.bundle working under 3.3?
Date: 5 Jan 1996 17:52:29 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <4cjogu$8t5@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
References: <4cd2aa$9ff@blackbird.afit.af.mil> <4ceoln$efg@blackbird.afit.af.mil>
In <4ceoln$efg@blackbird.afit.af.mil> Eric P Baenen wrote:
:
: Has anyone been successful in getting cryptor.bundle to work under
3.3?
:
: I have ftped and installed according to directions and it seems to
work
: fine except for one small problem. I can't get it to read my keyring
in
: ~/.pgp or add any new keys using the Encryption Keys window.
:
: I have also installed encipher and it works just fine with my keyring.
:
: Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
You have to set $home in /User/eric/.profile
e.g.
HOME='/User/eric'
Then add
setenv PGPPATH ~/.pgp
to your .cshrc (if you use something else then bash than the appropriate
file).
Then it should work.
I first tried to adjust the PGPPATH to something like /User/eric/.pgp
but it didn't work.
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
Juergen Grieb juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de NeXTMail welcome
Picard: Well, five-card stud, nothing wild - and the sky's the limit...
From: vbragin@mercury.uucp (Victoria Bragin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Unable to print with JetPilot+HP DeskJet850C
Date: 6 Jan 1996 03:41:36 GMT
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <4ckr1g$4rl@nuke.csu.net>
I purchased JetPilot as a driver for the HP Deskjet 850C. I installed the
temporary license given to me, the printer is attached to the parallel port,
and my system is a Pentium. However, I am unable to print. An alert panel
appears: "Some or all pages in your print request could not be printed."
The console reads: Server:Color_Printer[247]: Cannot open output device
'/dev/pp0': No such file or directory.
I have tried the following to no avail:
(1) Deinstalled the parallel port driver and reinstalled it using Configure.ap.
I even rebooted the system -- no success!
(2) Tried "makedev" in a shell - again, no success.
Any ideas on what I could try next would be greatly appreciated.
Vicki Bragin
From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert K. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Compiling SLiRP on NeXT
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 03:48:21 GMT
Organization: Darkstar Systems
Message-ID: <30edef68.6716558@199.227.0.16>
I just downloaded the latest source to SLiRP, a SLIP/PPP emulation
program which is supposed to complile cleanly on NS 3.3.
Unfortunately, I get a fatal error of: memcap.o -lposix ld: Undefined
sysmbols: _putenv
I thought that the putenv patch was taken care of when I installed
SATAN a while back.
BTW I am running NS 3.3 with the User 3.3 patch...
Thanks for any help or even the binaries..
-Rob
rwilson@gate.net
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Talking to Other Mailers
Date: 6 Jan 1996 05:06:53 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-39.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4cl01d$hs7@usc.edu>
References: <4cje69$gma@abel.cc.sunysb.edu>
In <4cje69$gma@abel.cc.sunysb.edu> Richard K. Larson wrote:
> Is there mail software available that will allow attached files sent
from
> a machine running NS to show up as attached files in other popular
mailers
> (Eudora, Pegasus), etc?
I believe I've had no problem with Mail 3.3 to Eudora on a mac.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
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From: pbrown@asparagus.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TeX3.14? web2c-2.61? flex-2.5? (Small world...)
Date: 6 Jan 1996 07:31:58 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <4cl8hf$qc3@agate.berkeley.edu>
I need to recompile TeX with larger memory allocation parameters (the
commutative diagrams in my thesis push NeXTTeX over the 5500 string
limit), and I'm not programmer enough to edit the sources for flex,
kpathsea, and web2c so that they compile properly on black hardware
(which is all the hardware I've got!). Does anyone out there have
executables or suggestions?
And, considering that TeX is now old enough to drive, why hasn't someone
rewritten it with dynamic memory allocation?!??!
Thanks for any help.
Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hhoff@flop.lb.bawue.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer with nntp: high load, try again later
Message-ID: <DKrF6A.1D1@flop.lb.bawue.de>
Sender: news@flop.lb.bawue.de
Organization: home
References: <DKK0sz.1ro@euler.hnv.icem.de> <DKnLwp.tM@flop.lb.bawue.de>
<DKqCvM.DB1@basil.icce.rug.nl>
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 12:39:46 GMT
Tom Hageman wrote:
> Since the NeGeN CNews distribution is primarily targeted to standalone
> machines, I'll consider disabling this load-average check altogether in the
> next release (no definite date yet:). Let me know what you think...
I think that would be a good idea. :)
If it's not too much trouble, could you put the unrestricted version
of nntpd on the NeGeN site, as a drop-in replacement?
Oh, and here's another suggestion: add the L flag to the sys file, so
that only locally posted news are batched & sent by default. Took me
(and apparently not only me) some time to figure out why my machine was
pumping out data like mad..
Everything else was a breeze to set up - really great! Thanks!
-holger
From: root@pern.interramp.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC
Date: 6 Jan 1996 22:32:10 GMT
Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link
Message-ID: <4cmt9a$p0c@usenet1.interramp.com>
Keywords: IRC
Can anyone point me to an IRC for NeXTStep 3.3
Thanks
Harry
From: cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Chadwick A. Dubuque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compiling SLiRP on NeXT
Date: 6 Jan 1996 20:50:37 GMT
Organization: Chaos. Try it. I think you'll like it.
Message-ID: <4cmnat$a96@daily-planet.nodak.edu>
References: <30edef68.6716558@199.227.0.16>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In article <30edef68.6716558@199.227.0.16>,
Robert K. Wilson <rwilson@gate.net> wrote:
>I just downloaded the latest source to SLiRP, a SLIP/PPP emulation
>program which is supposed to complile cleanly on NS 3.3.
>
>Unfortunately, I get a fatal error of: memcap.o -lposix ld: Undefined
>sysmbols: _putenv
>
>I thought that the putenv patch was taken care of when I installed
>SATAN a while back.
>
>BTW I am running NS 3.3 with the User 3.3 patch...
>
>Thanks for any help or even the binaries..
The author and I are working on this; contact him if you would like to help.
It's a shame that NS doesn't have a lot of the things tha most other UNIXes
do, like putenv() and so on.
--
Chadwick A. Dubuque cdubuque@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu
http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~cdubuque/ finger for PGP pub. key
postal:USA/58105-5164/ND/Fargo/IACC 258 NDSU Box 5164/Chad Dubuque
From: par@MCS.COM (Peter Richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Reading DOS-formatted Zip disks?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 6 Jan 1996 23:06:32 -0600
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <4cnkco$6cc@Venus.mcs.com>
References: <30EAC381.5123@kypris.com>
Dan Nichols (dan@kypris.com) wrote:
: Hi all.
: There was a flurry of posts a while back about DOS-formatted Zip disks
: on the NeXT.
: Did anyone ever solve this problem?
I do this ALL the time. It would kill me if this didn't work. So
I'll ask a question that may prompt some response.
What size disks are you using? From what I've been able to tell,
NS only supports 1.44M disks not 720K.
Peter Richardson
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: RTFD signature possible in NeXTmail and MIMEmail?
Date: 7 Jan 1996 06:59:21 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4cnr09$qc2@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4cih4f$508@usc.edu>
reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote:
> Would this be possible?
If you're using TickleServices, it defines two services for
signatures. One inserts ~/.signature, and the other inserts
~/.signature.rtf
Works nice for me, YMMV...
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OneVision
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 14:54:53 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Sender: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <960107145453.3613AACUO.malc@daneel>
References: <4cdf1g$1bv@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> I just got the OneVision CD and I installed the software. Looks
> like an extensive piece of work. Anybody knew this was in the works?
>
Umm, yes. General release has been delayed a while as it had to be
translated into English.
I haven't had a chance to look through it all since they sent me the CD --
there's a *lot* of it, and it looks *impressive*, though.
> Is Tailor in trouble? OneVision can open/Edit PS, EPS, PDF.
>
I wouldn't think Tailor is in trouble -- apart from anything else it's now
been released for MacOS. But OneVision offers a powerful alternative.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: salvo@eskimo.com(Marc Salvatori)
Subject: Re: RTFD signature possible in NeXTmail and MIMEmail?
Message-ID: <DKssy9.FE0@eskimo.com>
Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id)
Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever
References: <4cih4f$508@usc.edu>
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 06:34:57 GMT
In <4cih4f$508@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> Would this be possible?
From the EnhanceMail help:
EnhanceMail will try to read your signature from the .signature file. It
looks for that file first in the current mailbox and then in your home
directory. This allows you to override your default signature with one
specific to the topics in a particular mailbox. If you send NeXTmail,
EnhanceMail will first try to use rich signatures from the .signture.rtfd
and .signature.rtf files.
It uses the same file(instead of separate ones) for NeXTMail and MIME.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori | ><
>< salvo@eskimo.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted ><
From: mustreboot@aol.com (MustReboot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Viewing Next tiffs on a Mac
Date: 7 Jan 1996 19:49:17 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <4cppmd$9sh@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
anyone with an idea as how to do this
I try with all the image converters I have (That's quite a few) . The
files had tiff.tar.z as an extension. I used suntar and unstuffit on the
mac to uncompress the file now i have a .tiff extension only but nothing
would get into it. The most info came from Gifconverter which couldn't
open it because it's (2bitsper sample) whatever that means. Maybe there
is a NeXt2Mac converter that I don't know about
please feel free to email me about it
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextime
Date: 8 Jan 1996 00:52:19 GMT
Organization: my own
Message-ID: <4cpps3$4t4@gate.seicom.net>
References: <4bvvhm$4sg@cyberE.creative.net> <slrn4ec42v.306.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com> <4ccvkb$2da@shellx.best.com> <slrn4emkfh.82m.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com> <4cguon$7qu@beep.roadrunner.com> <4ci9ju$4it@sundog.tiac.net>
pgriffin@tiac.net wrote:
> silbar@beep.roadrunner.com (Dick Silbar) wrote:
> > J.D. Nicholson wrote:
> I would like to see a port of xanim (www.portal.com/~podlipec/home.html)
> to nextstep. xanim is an x application which plays nearly all
> avi and quicktime movies. It's free, comes with source which is covered by
> a gnu type licence, and works great.
Mhmm, Movie 3.0 does use (a older and hacked version of) xanim as a backend for
playing quicktime videos. It should be somewhere on peanuts. However xanim now (the
current versions) uses the original copyrighted libraries for Cinepack and Indeo formats -
no source anymore as the author had some trouble with patent infringements, I believe.
(Software patents are b*llsh*t! Just to have this said.) So it will not run on NS anymore.
Sound support for NS is still missing in Movie 3.0/xanim.
> Some enterprising young student could probably do the port in a couple of
> months. In return, he/she would gets lots of visibility and a probably
> good shot at some decent nextstep programming jobs for the effort...
Maybe, maybe not. I would not count on this.
Bye
Frank
---
Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank
NeXTSTEP & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C ga ga"
From: pbrown@asparagus.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeX3.14? web2c-2.61? flex-2.5? (Small world...)
Date: 8 Jan 1996 02:55:29 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Distribution: na
Message-ID: <4cq131$oka@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <4cl8hf$qc3@agate.berkeley.edu>
Thanks to all for their help. I have a working TeX3.1415 (6.1) using the
kpathsea version of web2c. The problems I experienced were:
flex 2.5 wouldn't build without some very minor tampering with the source
vs. what configure chooses. (I guess I set up my installation of gcc
strangely, but it was stock GNU.) The changes to the source can be made
by just following the error messages to the definitions that cause them.
sed 3.0 (necessary to run the configure scripts for the new kpathsea)
looks for malloc.h in /usr/include/malloc.h; this is hardwired and
should be changed to /usr/include/bsd/malloc.h. That done, it builds.
kpathsea won't build unless the "hypot" extern is removed from one of the
header files. (It conflicts with hypot in math.h and is never used...)
Other than that, the patches were sufficient, along with the
web2c.next.help (or something like that) file on ftp.cs.umb.edu.
What I didn't know (but learned after the fact...) was that I *already*
had the web2c files I needed, tangle and weave, in order to build TeX, so
the day I spent making things work and moving files was wasted...
All was not lost, though, as he new TeX and kpathsea with the associated
directory heirarcy (/usr/lib/texmf/[etc]) works nicely, and the stock
memory of 15000 strings (nearly triple that of the original NeXTTeX) is
sufficient for more complicated TeXing. Users of LaTeX2e, amstex.sty, and
P. Taylor's "diagrams.tex" package will find that the three combine to
nearly fill NeXTTeX 3.1's memory all by themselves.
(For anyone who is going to try to reproduce my results, be sure to save
your old pk files! You can reuse them by copying them into the
appropriate new directories in the kpathsea heirarchy. Look at the
Make_Fonts script to find out which resolutions commonly go with which
mode and then copy the files.)
Thanks again.
Paul Brown
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lupomesk@sun.ujep.cz
Subject: OmniWeb 2.0 beyond expectations
Message-ID: <167cc$162935.397@news>
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1996 21:41:53 GMT
Hi folks!
I am working with OmniWeb 2.0/beta-2 for a while and I am more amazed
than I was with first 2.0 version. Improved GUI (nice small icons), improved
redraws, general speedup. But there's more. Today I found, that there is
something called 'progressive JPEG'. I didn't expect it will work because I
heard that only few browsers support it. Than i tried it 1 and wow! it
works.
Good work they have done at OmniGroup.
Bye Borek
--
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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University of J.E.Purkyne, Usti nad Labem, Czech Republic
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From: marks@soli.inav.net (Mark Strand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Reading DOS-formatted Zip disks?
Date: 8 Jan 1996 03:15:39 GMT
Organization: INAV
Message-ID: <4cq28r$hdn@composer.inav.net>
References: <30EAC381.5123@kypris.com> <4cnkco$6cc@Venus.mcs.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
In article <4cnkco$6cc@Venus.mcs.com>, par@MCS.COM says...
>
>Dan Nichols (dan@kypris.com) wrote:
>: Hi all.
>: There was a flurry of posts a while back about DOS-formatted Zip disks
>: on the NeXT.
>
>: Did anyone ever solve this problem?
>
>I do this ALL the time. It would kill me if this didn't work. So
>I'll ask a question that may prompt some response.
>
>What size disks are you using? From what I've been able to tell,
>NS only supports 1.44M disks not 720K.
>
He said ZIP disks, not floppies. ZIP disks are 25M and 100M.
And I've used DOS-formatted ZIP disks on my slab and NSI with no
problems whatsoever. Works just as well as with NeXTSTEP-formatted
ZIP disks....
>Peter Richardson
>
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 8 Jan 1996 05:15:12 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4cq990$l0k@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 188+ ISV company pages
- 433+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
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Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
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This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
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Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
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===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
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=============
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ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
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ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
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=====================================
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Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
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From: New the Bie <newbie@startext.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Unable to print with JetPilot+HP DeskJet850C
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 23:35:11 -0600
Organization: StarText department of the Fort Worth Star Telegram
Message-ID: <Pine.Sola.3.91.960107233245.8000A-100000@lepton>
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Did you use the printmanager to create the printer? I believe it creates
some files in the /dev/pp0 directory. It sounds to me that you need to
add the printer in printmanager any of the drivers prefixed with JP can
be used.
--griz
On 6 Jan 1996, Victoria Bragin wrote:
>
> I purchased JetPilot as a driver for the HP Deskjet 850C. I installed the
> temporary license given to me, the printer is attached to the parallel port,
> and my system is a Pentium. However, I am unable to print. An alert panel
> appears: "Some or all pages in your print request could not be printed."
> The console reads: Server:Color_Printer[247]: Cannot open output device
> '/dev/pp0': No such file or directory.
>
> I have tried the following to no avail:
> (1) Deinstalled the parallel port driver and reinstalled it using Configure.ap.
> I even rebooted the system -- no success!
> (2) Tried "makedev" in a shell - again, no success.
>
> Any ideas on what I could try next would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Vicki Bragin
>
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: OneVision
Message-ID: <DKuv18.x2@onevision.de>
Sender: usenet@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <4cdf1g$1bv@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:15:07 GMT
In article <4cdf1g$1bv@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> wjabi@umich.edu
(Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
>
> Hi:
>
> I just got the OneVision CD and I installed the software. Looks like
> an extensive piece of work. Anybody knew this was in the works?
> I remember hearing about it months ago and I must have send a request
> for information and that's how they sent me the CD.
OneVision is available in Germany for quite a while. We are just
preparing for going to markets beside of germany with version 2.5. this
is the first version with english localisation. Version 3.0 will also
include brand new printed manuals in german and english. We hope that
we can ship 3.0 at the end of Q1/96!
======================================================================
Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH
Support Florian-Seidl-Strasse 11
Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg
(NeXTMail and MIME welcome) Germany
From: dese@iquest.com (Jim Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Ada Compilers for Next?
Date: 9 Jan 1996 19:57:35 GMT
Organization: DESE Research, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4cuhbg$sm0@polo.iquest.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
I have an associate who is interested in obtaining an Ada compiler for a
Next computer running Nextstep v3.0.
Any information you could provide on where (or if) an Ada compiler can
be obtained would be greatly appreciated.
If possible, please reply via e-mail.
Thanks,
JK
--
Jim Kirkpatrick (dese@dese.com)
DESE Research, Inc.
315 Wynn Dr. Suite 2
Huntsville AL 35805
From: kris@xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: compiled Samba
Date: 9 Jan 1996 18:28:04 GMT
Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <4cuc3k$jhq@news.xmission.com>
References: <4csanv$ba7@avalon.imaginet.fr>
I compiled a four-way fat version of Samba. I planned on making a package
out of it, but haven't had time to figure out how to do that. If you want
the binaries in a big fat tar.gz file, I'll throw them on an FTP site
somewhere.
If I get enough requests, I'll still make a Samba package.
................kris
Yannick Cadin (yannick@silicium.fdn.fr) wrote:
: Hi,
:
: A friend of mines appreciates to know where he can find a
: compiled version of Samba, as a FTP or WWW server.
: (It seems it's a network tool to connect computers with
: Windows 3.x and NEXTSTEP.)
:
: Thanks.
:
: Regards,
:
: Yannick Cadin
:
:
: --
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:
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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Content-Type: text/plain
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From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 96 07:02:03 +0100
Subject: News on FrameMaker 3.2/5.0 on NEXTSTEP for SPARC?
****
Any news on the port of FrameMaker 3.2 or 5.0 on NEXTSTEP for SPARC
or OPENSTEP??
Anybody from Omnigroup out there???
Pete??
Frame??
Or Adobe??
---
Later +
Greetings from
.. Stefan .. 8 ^)
"I have seen OpenStep 4.0 (old name = NEXTSTEP) and it will be!"
Life spans many different colors, but ---- REAL Computing is black!
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=
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From: Jeremy Slade <jeremy@talin.UUCP.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 96 10:45:53 GMT
Subject: Re: Unable to print with JetPilot+HP DeskJet850C
> I purchased JetPilot as a driver for the HP Deskjet 850C. I installed the
> temporary license given to me, the printer is attached to the parallel port,
> and my system is a Pentium. However, I am unable to print. An alert panel
> appears: "Some or all pages in your print request could not be printed."
> The console reads: Server:Color_Printer[247]: Cannot open output device
> '/dev/pp0': No such file or directory.
I have the same problem (trying to print to a HP DeskJet 540 and/or a HP
LaserJet 4), I have found that the printer _must_ be turned on when NextStep
is booted, or else the parallel device driver will not load -- I am also
running on a Pentium 100, NS3.3
Jeremy
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFax and Zyxel 2864 problems
Date: 10 Jan 1996 04:53:22 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4cvgo2$5h3@news4.digex.net>
References: <4cugdd$oas@pyrrhus-f.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE (Karsten Heinze) wrote:
> I use NXFax 1.04 with a Zyxel 2864 (ROM 1.09). It can send fax,
> but during receive come errors. Use someone this combination and
> can receive fax ?
I got this from the nice folks at B&W...Although I used Microphone
instead of tip...I guess you could use TipTop as well...Anyway, it
fixed all my faxing problems...
>For version 1.09 (and later) you must set the S62 register as
>follows:
>
>Use tip to connect and send commands to your modem. To do this,
>open a terminal window, type the following command and press Enter:
>
> tip cua9600
>
>(if your modem is plugged into port B type cub9600) You should
>see a connected message. Then type:
>
> at
>
>and press Enter. If the modem responds with OK you have a good
>connection and you can now type AT commands.
>
>Type the following command to set the S62 register:
>
> ats62.0=1
>
>To save the changes type:
>
> at&w
>
>Exit tip by typing ~. (the tilde key followed by a period). If
>this has no effect, simply close the terminal window and click
>the Close Anyway button on the Close panel.
--
Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: mkern@qualia.com (Mark E. Kern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: New Nextstep (black HW) user
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 07:58:53 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <4cvh91$bii@sundog.tiac.net>
Hi:
I'm relatively new to Nextstep and black hardware. I'm running 3.0
on a 16/400 monostation. What is the most useful software to get this
thing into shape as a fun, usable machine? It came installed with
WordPerfect and Improv, but I was wondering about what software people
found useful or essential on their stations? Also, where can one get
those 2.88meg floppies?
Mark E. Kern
From: dwright1@omni.voicenet.com (Darren Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Newsgrazer with nntp: high load, try again later
Date: 10 Jan 1996 14:32:31 GMT
Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290
Message-ID: <4d0ilv$312@news.voicenet.com>
References: <DKK0sz.1ro@euler.hnv.icem.de> <DKnLwp.tM@flop.lb.bawue.de>
Holger Hoffstaette (hhoff@flop.lb.bawue.de) wrote:
: Juergen Sell wrote:
: > I switched to running Newsgrazer via nntp on my private machine. Now on many
: > occasion I get a 'high load on nntp host, try again later' message when
: > starting NG.
: > As this has not happened when I played with other NewsReaders I expect this
: > to be a feature of NG, version 77.
: Nope: happens also with RadicalNews and tin on my machine.
: I use the (great!) NeGeN CNews package and the provided nntpd.
: > Is there a workaround to this? I'd rather have me decide about impact of
: > load on my machine. The default behaviour is obviously not suitable for me.
: Just wait and make sure the machine sits idle for a few seconds.
: Works for me.
: Maybe it's a fixed compile-time option for nntpd?
: Anybody from NeGeN care to enlighten us? :)
: -holger
I've got an NNTP server, and I can use Newsgrazer to read remotely BUT...
CAn I have Cnews read remotely, and download all the articles locally? I've
got a 24hr connection that does nothing....maybe I can put it to
some use by downloading messages in the meantime....
-Darren
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ZyXEL Omni 288S 1.09 and NXFax 1.04
Date: 11 Jan 1996 03:03:29 GMT
Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (www.oz.net)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4d1um1$d7h@emerald.oz.net>
I just received a ZyXEL Omni 288S modem as a possible replacement for my
ZyXEL U1496E on black hardware. In data mode, the modem seems to work fine
although I don't believe the slight increase in its speed is worth the price.
This isn't the modem's fault, but is due to the 38.4 serial port speed
limitation of 25 MHz. black hardware (I know, some of you are able to run at
57.6, but doing so fills my console with serial port buffer overrun
messages).
But in fax mode, I have been unable to receive more than a single-page
fax. Subsequent pages result in
%> nextcube_fax: page 2
%> nextcube_fax: page timeout
%> nextcube_fax: receive failed
This modem has the current version of the flash EEPROM firmware and I
have set the S62 register to 1 as recommended by Black and White for NXFax
compatibility, but something isn't right. Does anyone have the secret
formula to make this modem work well in fax mode?
--
Art Isbell NeXT & MIME Mail: art@cubicsol.com
NeXT Registered Consultant Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515
Trego Systems Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (M. Roehr)
Subject: Re: OpenWrite2...perhaps a UI overhaul?
Message-ID: <DKtL7p.17D@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte
References: <4bg5ob$1qv@usc.edu>
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 16:45:25 GMT
In article <4bg5ob$1qv@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) writes:
> In <4bg54i$8t6@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote:
> > I don't know...it is probably just me, since I see so many people
> > like it...But I think OpenWrite's UI is perhaps the worst UI of
> > all time for a wordprocessor. Even worse than ms word's. The
> > double/triple level inspector, zillions of dialog boxes...It seems
> > to be powerful, but I even find FrameMaker more intuitive.
> >
> > I really, really wanted to like this wordprocessor, but just can't
> > convince myself...So, I was wondering, those that do like OpenWrite
> > for its GUI, if they would explain why they like the OpenWrite GUI?
> >
> > Now I understand they may like it for the features it offers, but
> > ms word has lots of features to...beyond its features, I would like
> > to get a feel for why people like the way the program actually
> > works.
> >
>
> John -
>
> I completely agree that OpenWrite's GUI is tedious and clumsy and
> overcomplicated. So in the sense of do I enjoy what I have to go through to
> format things - well I'm telling myself as a new user that I will get the
> hang of it.
>
> On the other hand, it seems to come very close to FM's functionality, and
> on NS this is a remarkable feat and treat to have a full featured,
> moderately quick, and SUPPORTED document processor. That is what I like.
>
> On the other hand, if I were the owner of a Sun ultrasparc with Neo or
> Openstep, then I would probably go with the latest FrameMaker for Solaris.
>
> One thing I have found particularly disconcerting about OW is the lack of
> extensive keyboard control. Writing documents and mousing around do not go
> well together.
>
> I will probably ask Lighthouse if they are planning a rejuvination of the
> GUI in the near future. Unfortunately, I am getting the impression that
> most NS companies are way too busy porting to Openstep to have much time to
> work no refining their NS products.
>
> --
> Be well,
>
> Matthew
WHY NOBODY LAMENTATES THE LACK OF AUTOMATIC HYPHENATION??
COULD A WORDPROCESSOR CALLED A WORDPROCESSOR WITHOUT ANY HYPHENATIONS???!!
Manfred
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (M. Roehr)
Subject: Re: designing fonts
Message-ID: <DKtLGo.18C@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte
References: <4bvvcm$4sg@cyberE.creative.net>
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 16:50:48 GMT
In article <4bvvcm$4sg@cyberE.creative.net> buckley@mayo.edu writes:
>
> I wrote:
>
> : What are people using to create (not convert) fonts under NS?
>
> and paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman) answered
>
> >To design fonts you can use the Macromedia Product, Fontographer,
> which
> >runs on the Windows/Macintosh platforms...it also converts.
>
> Does this mean nobody is doing font design on the Nextstep platform?
>
> -Paul
It seems so, I miss it too for a long time and try to discuss it, but it seems there
is no hope - I can t understand.
Manfred
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FAX: +49 431 733 483
PHONE: +49 431 73 45 39
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: New Nextstep (black HW) user
Date: 11 Jan 1996 16:45:13 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Message-ID: <4d3eqp$7ls@trane.opensource.com>
References: <4cvh91$bii@sundog.tiac.net>
In article <4cvh91$bii@sundog.tiac.net> mkern@qualia.com (Mark E. Kern)
writes:
> Hi:
> I'm relatively new to Nextstep and black hardware. I'm running 3.0
> on a 16/400 monostation. What is the most useful software to get this
> thing into shape as a fun, usable machine? It came installed with
> WordPerfect and Improv, but I was wondering about what software people
> found useful or essential on their stations? Also, where can one get
> those 2.88meg floppies?
>
> Mark E. Kern
The first software you should get is the OS upgrade (3.3 is current) as
the vast majority of third-party applications require at least NS 3.1. If
you have access to the WWW, our home page is a good place to look for
information about commercial software products available for NEXTSTEP
(http://www.OpenSource.com/). Last I looked, 2.88MB UD disks were still
available from some of your larger computer stores and mail order
companies.
Drop me an email if there is anything I can do to be of assistance.
---
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From: ggrant@eudoxos.math.upenn.edu (Gregory Grant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anybody installed LaTeX2e?
Date: 11 Jan 1996 21:05:38 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <4d3u32$aj4@netnews.upenn.edu>
Has anybody upgraded LaTeX2.09 to LaTeX2e? I've been getting up the
courage to try this, but the instructions given by CTA do not make me feel
too confident. If somebody can offer some tips I'd love to know.
Thanks,
Greg Grant
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do I make the Mouse response much faster ?
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 10:06:08 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960113100224.841D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4d3e9h$8ch@jenny.state.net>
On 11 Jan 1996 phaedrus@is.com wrote:
> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes
>
> >> How do I get the mouse response to be much faster than the best
> >> default speed ?
> >
> >Either learn the cryptic way that the dwrite is created, or get
> >GKMouseScaler from peanuts in the Tools/preferences directory and drop it
> >in /LocalLibrary/Preferences, restart Preferences.app and go to the new
> >Preferences module.
> >
> >Hint: the second suggestion is the better one.
>
>
> where's peanuts or where ever this tools/preferences directory is.
>
> -thanks
>
>
I believe the official hostname is: www2.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
(I have had problems when I try to use 'peanuts.leo.org')
ftp://www2.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/preferences/GKMouseScaler.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz
ftp://www2.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/preferences/GKMouseScaler.1.1.README
note they are also available as:
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.README
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Everything is easy when you know what you are doing"
Dr. Robert Cupper, Department of Computer Science,
Allegheny College, Meadville, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kwasi.darko@utoronto.ca (kwasi akore darko)
Subject: Re: Netscape for NeXT?
Message-ID: <DL401r.Gzq@utcc.utoronto.ca>
Sender: news@utcc.utoronto.ca (News)
Organization: UTCC Campus Access
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 07:41:51 GMT
On 01/12/96, William V Fleitz wrote:
>Just wondering if Netscape is available for NeXT. I haven't seen it on
>their home page so I assume it's not available, although it seems strange
>that it wouldn't be available since I know there is a Linux version.
>Wouldn't it be a simple task to port it to NeXT?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bill
>
I think if enough people show interest the company might port to NeXT. Send
them mail if you can.
kwasi
From: gary@ccrma.stanford.edu (Gary P. Scavone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Software License Protection without using hostid?
Date: 13 Jan 1996 19:00:15 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <4d8vfv$84d@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
I'm trying to get access to a piece of software that uses a computer's hostid
in the license protection string (supposedly this is NeXT's solution).
Unfortunately, I have a stand-alone machine without an Ethernet card.
Therefore, I have no hostid. While the software protection is really not my
problem, not being able to use the software is!
Does anyone know of a way that a NeXTStep software developer can incorporate
software protection without using hostid?
From: scollarw@cadvision.com (guzzibill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Phone.app
Date: 13 Jan 1996 18:49:54 GMT
Organization: CADVision
Message-ID: <4d8usi$11q8@huey.cadvision.com>
On 01/09/96, Olivier Blanc composed a News article about Phone.app:
>
> hey,
>
>As far as I can remember, in version 3.0 to 3.2 there was an application
>called Phone.app. Problem is that I cannot get a hand on
the authors for Phone app can be reached at ===> phone@hasc.ca
here is a copy of the request for license
Phone-3.5 License Agreement
This application is shareware. This means that you're free to copy this program as
much as you want. You may use this program for a testing period that's reasonable
in length, in order to determine if you wish to keep and use it.
If you decide to keep and use this program, you must send $10.00 per copy(one copy
per user) to Hutchison Ave. Software and register your application. Our address is:
Hutchison Ave. Software
3481 Aylmer, Suite B
Montreal, Qc., CANADA
H2X 2B4
Site licenses are available should you have the need.
Registering your application will entitle you to all future shareware upgrades to
Phone.app.
--
Bill Scollard
Calgary, Canada
MotoGuzzi - California III || NeXT Turbo Colour
Software AG - Natural || OmniWeb & the NET
BackGammon / Poker / skiing || Marriage & Kids
=====> What more could there possbibly be!<======
From: ywu@plato.sky.bdm.com (Yibing Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Has anyone been using Emacs on NeXT?
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 00:44:32 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <4d9c15$bsl@news.mcl.bdm.com>
Hi, there:
I have a GNU Emacs 19.28.1 on NeXT(the one with a bufflo icon), and
have made it the default editor for all the .m .h files---it works
well so far except that once selected, the high-light over the code
NEVER goes away.
For example, when the project builder tells me that line 200 at file
foo.m, there is a type mismatch, and I double-click this message,
emacs will be launched automatically with file "foo.m" loaded in and
entire line 200 high-lighted---That is great, BUT, how can I make this
"selection" go away? Since the high-light's color is darker than that
of the cursor, so sometimes, I had hard time finding my cursor!
I'd also appreciate if someone can tell me how to change color for the
selection and cursor---fortunately, I've figured out how to do that to
the foreground and background.
Thanks very much!
Yibing Wu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: olli@nxcube.augusta.de
Subject: Re: NeXT printer power off software?
Message-ID: <DL4uxA.2F6@nxcube.augusta.de>
Sender: news@nxcube.augusta.de
Organization: Universitaet der Bundeswehr Muenchen
References: <4chm5h$h8s@nntp5.u.washington.edu>
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 18:48:46 GMT
mcutler@u.washington.edu (Mark Cutler) wrote:
> I am hoping to locate software (if it exists) that automatically shuts
> down the printer if it has not been used for some fixed time period (such
> as every fifteen minutes). I realize that I can use crontab to issue
> the nppower off command on that interval, but I would prefer that the
> printer not power up every fifteen minutes.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> MC
I use this (since Feb. 1992, and it works for me):
--- cut here ---
#!/bin/csh -f
# *** /etc/npcrond ***
#
# This file must be mode 755.
#
# This script provides an auto-power-off of the NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer.
# The power-off-delay after printing a document is given by the variable
# 'poweroffafter'. Set this variable to the desired delay in minutes.
#
# The file '/etc/rc.local' should contain the following line:
# echo "0" > /private/adm/npcountup.log
#
# The file '/etc/crontab.local' must contain a line looking like this:
# * * * * * root /etc/npcrond
#
# Modify the hostname (nxcube), printername (NeXTLaser) and
# poweroffafter according to your own machine and needs!
#
# (c) 1992 by Oliver Nissen
set poweroffafter = 10
set isnpon = `find /private/spool/NeXT/NeXTLaser*/lock -newer
/private/adm/npcountup.log -print`
set npactive = `find /private/spool/NeXT/NeXTLaser*/*nxcube -print`
set calltimes = `cat /private/adm/npcountup.log`
if($#isnpon || $#npactive) then
echo "0" > /private/adm/npcountup.log
else if($calltimes < $poweroffafter) then
@ calltimes++
echo $calltimes > /private/adm/npcountup.log
else if($calltimes == $poweroffafter) then
@ calltimes++
echo $calltimes > /private/adm/npcountup.log
/usr/etc/nppower off
sleep 3
endif
--- cut here ---
Oliver
--
--- 8< --------------------------------------------------------------
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olli@nxcube.augusta.de -> NeXT-Mail/MIME welcome
O.Nissen@rz.unibw-muenchen.de -> Plain text only!
_____________________________________________________________________
>>> "...but, why is it black?" - "It should have been perfect..." <<<
From: Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Has anyone been using Emacs on NeXT?
Date: 13 Jan 1996 23:43:31 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <4d9g33$m56@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <4d9c15$bsl@news.mcl.bdm.com>
In <4d9c15$bsl@news.mcl.bdm.com> Yibing Wu wrote:
> I have a GNU Emacs 19.28.1 on NeXT(the one with a bufflo icon),
That is a gnu, not a buffalo ! Or at least so the artist, Joe Reiss, tells
me. (BTW, where are you, Joe ? Your old email address disappeared.)
> and
> have made it the default editor for all the .m .h files---it works
> well so far except that once selected, the high-light over the code
> NEVER goes away.
That is a problem which was fixed in the latest source release, 4.12, which
you can find on lynx.ps.uci.edu. In that version, modifying the buffer will
remove the line highlighting.
> I'd also appreciate if someone can tell me how to change color for the
> selection and cursor---fortunately, I've figured out how to do that to
> the foreground and background.
The easiest way to change the color of anything emacs is to open a color
panel and drag the color over the object which you want to change. That
works for the cursor and all faces. To change the background color,
shift-drag. Finally to make your changes permanent, use the "Info/Save
Preferences" menu item. No need ever to mess with dwrites.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Subject: Re: Netscape for NeXT?
Message-ID: <DL53s4.859@musical.fdn.org>
Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS (The Music Land)
References: <DL401r.Gzq@utcc.utoronto.ca>
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 22:00:04 GMT
kwasi akore darko writes
> On 01/12/96, William V Fleitz wrote:
> >Just wondering if Netscape is available for NeXT. I haven't
> >seen it on their home page so I assume it's not available,
> >although it seems strange that it wouldn't be available since
> >I know there is a Linux version. Wouldn't it be a simple task
> >to port it to NeXT?
> >
> I think if enough people show interest the company might port to
> NeXT. Send them mail if you can.
>
Try, Netsurfer 1.11 it's Netscape compatible.
Sam
From: tralala@cam.org (Andre Lalonde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 Question
Date: 12 Jan 1996 21:02:55 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada
Message-ID: <4d6i9v$ido@tandem.CAM.ORG>
References: <4csgik$mb2@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> <4culh2$jpg@mozart.jlc.net>
<4d1f5p$ehb@csusac.ecs.csus.edu>
In <4d1f5p$ehb@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> Robert C. Doss Jr. wrote:
> I am aware of the fact that I can set line spacings to an exact point
> value under OW 1.1. However that spacing is not adequate for situations
> where the font size changes in the middle of the line as the spacing is
> relative to font size. WriteUP, WordPerfect for DOS/Windows (I'm not sure
> about the NEXTSTEP version), and Microsoft Word all have options where
> the word processor will automatically determine the spacing according to
> preset spacings (single, 1.5, double) and will compensate for different
> font sizes in the same line. This feature is *absent* in OpenWrite 1.1
> and I would like to know if it has been implemented in version 2.0.
>
>
>
>Try <openwrite@lighthouse.com>.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jpmeia@netcom.com (McCann)
Subject: m68k-to-Intel Font conversion app?
Message-ID: <nntpuserDL5DA9.K78@netcom.com>
Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 01:25:20 GMT
Hi.
I bought the Adobe PlusPack fonts for m68k architecture and would like
to convert them for use with NS Intel. Anyone know of any software
that will convert fonts from NS/Motorola to NS/Intel?
Please respond to;
jpmeia@netcom.com
nextmail welcome
Thanks, JP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: NeXT editor blues
In-Reply-To: smcdowall@globalmt.com's message of 8 Jan 1996 23:03:20 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.96Jan13220249@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4cs7ro$88a@wavefront.wavefront.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 03:02:49 GMT
Look at Keyboard.app in /NextDeveloper/Demos. Also, AFS WriteUp supports
PageUp/PageDown, etc...
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
In article <4cs7ro$88a@wavefront.wavefront.com> smcdowall@globalmt.com writes:
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From: smcdowall@globalmt.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 8 Jan 1996 23:03:20 GMT
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Esxcuse me if this is in a FAQ, but I haven't seen a FAQ in a few weeks and this
is kinda buggine me..
Anyway, is there a way in the NeXT Editor to define the behaviour of keys?
Ie: re-map some of my keys on ye olde IBM PC 101 keyboard to do some nice
behaviour? to whit, I would like the END key to go to the end of the line, the
PgUp/PgDn to page up down, the delete key to delete a character i am at,
etc. etc. If there is doc on how to do this I can't find it...
Thanks!
-STeve
p.s. no NeXT mail to this email.. Next Mail is okay to : sjm@mcaltd.com
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: dwrites for Spy.app?
Date: 14 Jan 1996 06:26:13 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-h-06.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4da7m5$q0i@usc.edu>
I once remember someone posting how to dwrite Spy.app to make it
watch anything one might want it to.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: eXTRAPRINT + NeXT Color Printer = Cool new printer...
Date: 14 Jan 1996 06:31:36 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4da808$3gq@news4.digex.net>
A friend of mine came over today and saw a color print out of mine
and asked if I got a new printer... We both have NeXT color printers.
Well, a while back I got a the eXTRAPRINT driver for the NCP.
When I first got it, well lets just say it wasn't ready for prime
time :) But, the folks at GSCorp were really responsive and kept
tuning the driver until, now, it works really great (unfortunatly
the version they have on there CD doesn't have the latest updates
they made for me, so it might not be as cool as the final version
I have).
Anyway, they use a different dithering routine, the colors match
the original much more closely as well. To boot, they added neeto
monochrome, and plain text print options. The monochrome option
prints the smoothest greyscale images I've ever seen. The plain
text option, contrary to what the name implies, prints images in
monochrome, but rasterizes the images using a 'fatter' dithering
(more like the old traditional NeXT Color Print driver postscript
style dithering) that results in faster printing.
I still keep the old NeXT driver around just to show friends the
difference it makes in output quality.
If you have an old NeXT Color Printer, and have been thinking about
getting a new higher DPI printer, check out eXTRAPRINT...
http://www.gscorp.com/
And no, I don't work for GSCorp, I'm just a happy customer :)
--
Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: jreiss@discus.ise.vt.edu (Joe Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Has anyone been using Emacs on NeXT?
Date: 14 Jan 1996 14:06:52 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA
Message-ID: <4db2ls$m3g@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
References: <4d9c15$bsl@news.mcl.bdm.com> <4d9g33$m56@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote...
>In <4d9c15$bsl@news.mcl.bdm.com> Yibing Wu wrote:
>> I have a GNU Emacs 19.28.1 on NeXT(the one with a bufflo icon),
>
>That is a gnu, not a buffalo ! Or at least so the artist, Joe Reiss, tells
>me.
There seem to be a lot of people who don't believe that the Emacs icon
really is a Gnu. So I'm hereby presenting my proof.
Launch Webster.app. Then define "gnu". The picture that appears is
exactly the one on which I based the Emacs icon. So if it doesn't
look sufficiently gnu-ish, blame the folks at Webster, not me :-)
Joe
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: How do I make the Mouse response much faster ?
Message-ID: <DL4nMw.GJ@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <4d3e9h$8ch@jenny.state.net>
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 16:11:20 GMT
In article <4d3e9h$8ch@jenny.state.net> phaedrus@is.com writes:
> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes
> >Either learn the cryptic way that the dwrite is created, or get
> >GKMouseScaler from peanuts in the Tools/preferences director
> where's peanuts or where ever this tools/preferences directory is.
Try peanuts.leo.org.
Michael
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Software License Protection without using hostid?
Message-ID: <DL68y4.1pG@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: news@euler.hnv.icem.de
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <4d8vfv$84d@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 12:49:16 GMT
Gary P. Scavone writes
> I'm trying to get access to a piece of software that uses a computer's hostid
> in the license protection string (supposedly this is NeXT's solution).
> Unfortunately, I have a stand-alone machine without an Ethernet card.
> Therefore, I have no hostid. While the software protection is really not my
> problem, not being able to use the software is!
>
> Does anyone know of a way that a NeXTStep software developer can incorporate
> software protection without using hostid?
You can always build some cryptic license string scheme on paying user's name.
But then you have to trust people do not give away the license string/user name
combo to friends. Note this does not bear any resemblance to the actual machine
the software is running on which on the other hand is an improvement for paying
customers updating their h/w.
It is most annoying to have nonfunctioning s/w as a result of poor (?) license
mechanisms after h/w upgrades. It is safe for the s/w manufacturer though.
Remember there is no absolutely safe copy protection scheme. It is your
responsability to balance
- your efforts on copy protection development (time, brains, money etc),
- possible benefit in terms of license fee increases through forced to pay
customers,
- user's (in)-convenience
Be sure to supply appropriate demo functionality for evaluation purposes.
Saves you efforts if you need not support every demo site with special license
keys.
The decision is yours, Juergen
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= when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee,
= when a politician's idea of social change is changing names
= when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
From: tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu (Theodore J. Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: m68k-to-Intel Font conversion app?
Date: 14 Jan 1996 15:38:04 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison
Message-ID: <4db80s$1cv0@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <nntpuserDL5DA9.K78@netcom.com>
jpmeia@netcom.com (McCann) wrote:
> I bought the Adobe PlusPack fonts for m68k architecture and would like
> to convert them for use with NS Intel. Anyone know of any software
> that will convert fonts from NS/Motorola to NS/Intel?
>
No conversion needed. Just drop the fonts
in /LocalLibrary/Fonts/ or in ~/Library/Fonts/
and then in that directory, do
buildafmdir
cacheAFMData ./
--
Ted Allen
High Energy Physics
University of Wisconsin-Madison
tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
From: rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Area Code (was Phone.app)
Date: 15 Jan 1996 02:38:52 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800
Message-ID: <4dcens$rho@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <4d8usi$11q8@huey.cadvision.com>
There is a very handy app/service called Area Code that shows
the region of the highlighted area code. Is anybody updating
this for all the changing Area Codes?
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Bob Love, rlove@neosoft.com (local) MIME & NeXT Mail OK
rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (permanent) PGP key available
----------------------------------------------------------------
From: vincel@cais2.cais.com (Vincent Llewellyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: config transsys dialup ip on 3.0 w/QBlazer 9600
Date: 15 Jan 1996 03:44:00 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service
Message-ID: <4dcii1$2r5@news.cais.com>
The modem dials out but never enters slip mode. I do not know what to
expect so I do not know if it is doing what it is supposed to do.
The slip deamon does load from system startup ok.
I need help on how to use unix to configure this modem properly for slip
on my next.
I tried using the prefabbed modem script. Don't seem to be working.
Do I need to write a dial out script for this modem? If so, How do I
accomplish$
I have omniweb, I try launching it and it doesn't launch from the
workspace. Why?
Any experience with the particulars to this setup would be greatly
appreciated
Here is some output from my next:
Jan 14 21:35:52 Workspace: Cannot exec /LocalApps/OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb
Jan 14 21:38:15 Workspace: Cannot exec /LocalApps/SpiderWoman.app/SpiderWoman
Jan 14 21:38:17 Workspace: Cannot exec /LocalApps/SpiderWoman.app/SpiderWoman
Jan 14 21:39:23 Workspace: Cannot exec /LocalApps/OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: Couldn't
autobaud annex: prompt from annex terminal server
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Error Code: NONE
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Error Info:
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: Couldn't
autobaud annex: prompt from annex terminal server
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: while executing
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: "error
"Couldn't autobaud annex: prompt from annex terminal server""
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: ("foreach"
body line 13)
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: invoked
from within
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: "foreach i
{once} {
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: ^Ixmit {\r}
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: ^I#
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: ^I# look for
annex command prompt
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: ^I#
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: ^Iexpect
"*annex:*" {break} timeout {}
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: ^Ixmit {\r}
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: ^Iexpect
"*annex:*" {break} time ..."
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: (file
"/usr/dialupip/config/login-annex.tcl" line 22)
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: invoked
from within
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: "source
"/usr/dialupip/config/login-annex.tcl""
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: Script Error: (file
"/usr/dialupip/config/slip-srv.script.tcl" line 32)
Jan 14 21:44:45 localhost diald-slip0[287]: End Error Info.
that is from the console logfile:
from the command prompt:
localhost:1# telnet 199.0.216.4
Trying 199.0.216.4...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out
localhost:2#
from annex login for server:
# TCL script for use with tcldiald.
#
# Used to put a Xylogics Annex terminal server into SLIP mode. This version
# does not expect any login or password prompts. If these are present with
# you terminal server, you can pick up additional arguments from the $args
# array and use them to specify user name and password.
#
# $Id: login-annex.tcl,v 4.7 1992/09/05 01:59:47 louie Rel $
#
log "Begin annex login"
#
# set parity of transmitted data
#
parity ZERO
#
# For auto-baud nonsense.. sometimes its necessary to poke at it a
couple of
# times before it figures out what speed the modem is at.
#
#set timeout 2
#xmit {\r}
#sleep 1
#foreach i {once} {
# xmit {\r}
#
# look for annex command prompt
#
expect "*annex:*" {break} timeout {}
xmit {\r}
expect "*annex:*" {break} timeout {}
xmit {\r}
expect "*annex:*" {break} timeout {}
xmit {\r}
expect "*annex:*" {break} timeout {}
error "Couldn't autobaud annex: prompt from annex terminal server"
}
set timeout 10
#
# send command to put terminal server into SLIP mode
#
xmit "slip\r"
log "Entering SLIP mode"
#
# Use regular-expression based expect command to match addresses in message
# that the annex server emits.
#
rexpect {Annex address is ([0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+).+Your address
is ([0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+)[^0-9]}
#
# Rather than just printing this message, you could ifconfig the interface,
# for example, by using the exec TCL command:
#
# exec /etc/ifconfig $interface $2 $1
#
log "Annex address is $1, my address should be $2"
#
# wait a bit for server to switch to SLIP mode
#
sleep 1
#
# that's all
return "Connected"
I need help on how slip is supposed to work and then how to use omniweb
newgrazer, and all the other next stuff.
thanks
From: randall@redfish.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Dave Randall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: News on FrameMaker 3.2/5.0 on NEXTSTEP for SPARC?
Date: 14 Jan 1996 21:45:57 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <4dbtil$17q0@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
References: <m0tacYv-000btOC@a-gain>
Stefan Huelf <stefan@a-gain.hanse.de> wrote:
> ****
>
> Any news on the port of FrameMaker 3.2 or 5.0 on NEXTSTEP for SPARC
> or OPENSTEP??
>
> Anybody from Omnigroup out there???
>
> Pete??
>
> Frame??
>
> Or Adobe??
>
> ---
>
> Later +
> Greetings from
> .. Stefan .. 8 ^)
One of the nice things about OPENSTEP Sparc, as I understand it, is that we
will be able to use a Solaris version of Frame even if there is no "NeXT-ish"
version available.
But of course I would like very much to have a NeXT-ish version, and would
pay for it.
From: John Hills <jhills@unix.infoserve.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 68040 cube as Mac printer
Date: 15 Jan 1996 05:31:58 GMT
Organization: J Hills Radiology Inc.
Message-ID: <4dcose$lpk@news.infoserve.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
There used to be a driver for the Mac that allowed you to connect to a cube
via the serial port and use the cube as a Mac printer. What is the current
status on this?
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 15 Jan 1996 05:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4dcnsu$m5@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 188+ ISV company pages
- 433+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Additionally there is a Mail Server available. You can get
information on using the mail server at
ns-products@stepwise.com
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu: The main site for North American submissions
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Area Code (was Phone.app)
Date: 15 Jan 1996 16:07:59 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <4ddu4v$hu3@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <4dcens$rho@uuneo.neosoft.com>
In article <4dcens$rho@uuneo.neosoft.com> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B.
Love ) writes:
> There is a very handy app/service called Area Code that shows
> the region of the highlighted area code. Is anybody updating
> this for all the changing Area Codes?
>
And is it available for Intel processors?
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Bob Love, rlove@neosoft.com (local) MIME & NeXT Mail OK
> rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (permanent) PGP key available
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
--
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Geography, The Ohio State University wounds
1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall all
Columbus OH 43210-1361 heels.
FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: dwrites for Spy.app?
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 13:31:25 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960115132750.861B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4da7m5$q0i@usc.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4da7m5$q0i@usc.edu>
On 14 Jan 1996, Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> I once remember someone posting how to dwrite Spy.app to make it
> watch anything one might want it to.
Well, that was probably me. I don't know if it will watch _Anything_ you
might want it to.... I wish it would... I could use something to watch me
to make sure I don't waste too much time on the computer, or watching
TV.... however, there is a way to make it 'tail' any file you want...
So now you're going to ask 'How?' It is a dwrite, but I can't remember
it exactly. Perhaps 'dwrite Spy File /path/to/file'? If not, let me
know.... when I go home to my real machine I'll check and send you the
actual answer....
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Everything is easy when you know what you are doing"
Dr. Robert Cupper, Department of Computer Science,
Allegheny College, Meadville, PA
From: Tom Horton <tom>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: something Quicken-like for NS?
Date: 15 Jan 1996 20:34:43 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. & Engin., Florida Atlantic Univ.
Message-ID: <4dedp3$ei7@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm wondering if someone can point me to info on applications for personal
finance that work in a similar way to Quicken on PCs. I see reference to
CheckSum on ObjectTechnologies' Web page; anyone with experience with that?
I feel embarassed to be asking, since I've been out of touch with the latest
and greatest in the NeXT community since NEXTWorld went under and work has
gotten busy in the last two years. Perhaps something wonderful has come along
in that time? Or perhaps people are running Quicken under SoftPC.... I'm on
black hardware, BTW.
Thanks!
Tom
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering, Florida Atlantic University
Boca Raton, FL 33431 USA Phone: 407/367-2674 FAX: 407/367-2800
Internet: tom@cse.fau.edu Bitnet: HortonT@fauvax
From: bkmoore@rigel.oac.uci.edu (Brian Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MOD Player for NeXT
Date: 15 Jan 96 21:18:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <bkmoore.821740713@rigel.oac.uci.edu>
Has anyone found a MOD music player for NeXT? I've been looking
all over but have yet to find one.
--
Brian Moore
NeXT: Unreal Solutions for a Real Market
And yes we do take NeXT Mail
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: dwrites for Spy.app?
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:42:05 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960115164043.373B@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4da7m5$q0i@usc.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.91.960115132750.861B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960115132750.861B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
the dwrite I was talking about is indeed
dwrite Spy File /path/to/the/file
Which is what Spy.app does itself when you use the Commands/Open... from
Spy.app's menu. You can use it to 'tail' any file you want.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Everything is easy when you know what you are doing"
Dr. Robert Cupper, Department of Computer Science,
Allegheny College, Meadville, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <eric@wcarchive.cdrom.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 13:58:14 -0800
From: Eric Trembly <eric@wcarchive.cdrom.com>
Message-ID: <199601152158.NAA29192@wcarchive.cdrom.com>
Subject: Nebula is now Quad-Fat
>First: Nebula is the NSI collection from Walnut Creek! For Motorola
>hardware they have the NOVA.
FIRST: Nebula Quad-FAT has been updated and on sale since August 1995
when we introduced it at Object World. It now works on ALL NEXTSTEP
platforms m68k, Intel, SPARC and PA-RISC.
Second: Nebula has over 400 Quad-FAT applications. More then any
other CDROM on the market. Nebula is by far the most popular CDROM
collection on the market. (In my view.)
>I recommend the peanuts archive disks. It's actually a set of 3 CDs
>and mirrors the biggest European Nextstep server
Recommend whatever you like, I just wanted to point out that the
CDROM has been updated and that your information and probably
your recommendation for the peanuts archive disk is outdated.
You can get more information about the CDROM at http://www.cdrom.com/titles/nebula.html
Eric Tremblay
Walnut Creek CDROM
1547 Palos Verdes Mall, Suite 260
Walnut Creek, CA 94596
1 800 786-9907
+1 510 947-5996
+1 510 947-1644 FAX
info@cdrom.com or eric@cdrom.com (Electronic Mail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: MOD Player for NeXT
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DL8wCw.nw9@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 23:10:08 GMT
References: <bkmoore.821740713@rigel.oac.uci.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <bkmoore.821740713@rigel.oac.uci.edu>,
Brian Moore <bkmoore@rigel.oac.uci.edu> wrote:
>Has anyone found a MOD music player for NeXT? I've been looking
>all over but have yet to find one.
>
There are two that I know of. Paula.app and ModPlayer.app. I think I found
them both on ftp.cs.orst.edu.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there command line way to send a fax?
Date: 15 Jan 1996 23:47:48 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4dep34$hme@trane.opensource.com>
References: <4d70cu$8js@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
In article <4d70cu$8js@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca
(B.Olav Anderson) writes:
>
> That's it!
>
> ---
>
> B.Olav Anderson
> Next Mail: olav@emerson.physics.ubc.ca
> Web Stuff: http://nietzsche.physics.ubc.ca/
> Phone: (604)822 4470
> Snail Mail:P.O.Box 78560
> University Postal Outlet
> Vancouver, B.C.
> V6T 2E7
>
> "It is the machine that produces:Man creates"
> R.May
From
http://www.opensource.com/Software/Utilities/CommandLineFax.html#CommandLi
neFax:
CommandLineFax
An Automated Faxing Tool
Sometimes you need to send faxes without human intervention.
CommandLineFax allows you to automate many faxing tasks. You can write
shell scripts that will automatically fax a given text or PostScript file
when some event occurs. For example, a sales department might
automatically fax new rate sheets to all of their salesmen on the first of
the month.
Your own custom application can be made to issue faxes in unattended mode.
For instance, tickler/reminder/scheduling applications, network-monitoring
applications, and emergency-notification applications might use
CommandLineFax to send important messages when some event occurs.
Faxable documents can be either text or PostScript formats.
)
$49
)
) Motorola
) Intel
--
______________________________________________________
| Dan Gamble | OpenSource, Inc. |
| dan@opensource.com | THE Single Source for |
| (NeXTmail welcome) | NEXTSTEP Solutions |
| | |
|------------------------------------------------------|
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MOD Player for NeXT
Date: 16 Jan 1996 01:25:30 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <CRATH.96Jan15202530@bmerhe83.bnr.ca>
References: <bkmoore.821740713@rigel.oac.uci.edu>
In-reply-to: bkmoore@rigel.oac.uci.edu's message of 15 Jan 96 21:18:33 GMT
I recently pulled the source for MODPlayer off ftp.cs.orst.edu. Check
the ls-lR.gz file listing to find it.
Christopher
--
=== Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 ===
Bell-Northern Research |
Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless
Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns
FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Quad-Binary WebMapper package now available
Date: 16 Jan 1996 03:34:37 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <4df6cd$4vg@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
Hi:
WebMapper version 0.5 (Alpha) is a NEXTSTEP 3.3 application that lets
you create clickable imagemaps for the World-Wide Web. Take a look at
the announcment:
http://www.stepwise.com/comp.sys.next.announce/csna-118/3949
It should also be in comp.sys.next.announce, but I have not seen it
there yet.
The files are in the Oregon archives under:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info/
But... I now have a WebMapper package (WebMapper.pkg ~3MB) available
through my home page. This version fixes a small bug and is compiled
for all four architectures. In general, this location will always have
the latest version of WebMapper.
http://libra.caup.umich.edu/Software/
Please read the README file first. Let me know what you think. Thanks.
Enjoy!
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: emma@pedder.csse.swin.edu.au (Emma Erin Beckett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Diamond Stealth64 2MB DRAM, 2001 Series drivers
Date: 16 Jan 1996 02:21:43 GMT
Organization: Swinburne University of Technology
Message-ID: <4df23n$cjv@lucy.swin.edu.au>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi everyone,
Can someone please tell me where I can find a video driver for
the newer Diamond Stealth64 cards that no longer use the S3 chipset?
They now use the Ark Logic ARK2000PV chipset... are there any NS drivers
that will enable me to use this video card?
Please help!
If you have any information... please email me at:
emma@pedder.csse.swin.edu.au
Thankyou!
Bye!
Emma.
From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: Problems with MouseX
Message-ID: <1996Jan16.092044.45900@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 16 Jan 96 09:20:44 MET
Keywords: X11, MouseX
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
Hi, I still have problems with MouseX :-(
When running the MouseX server I cannot return to the Nextstep environment
via hotkeys or via exiting the X env., the only way to go back to Nextstep
is to crash the server or to reboot.
And I still need an advice how to tell MouseX to recognize my german keyboard
Any help would be appreciated
Thanx, l8er
Daniel
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Physikalisches Institut
Universitaet Basel
email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please)
smail: D. Haas, Kreuzstrasse 150, D-79540 Loerrach, Germany
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"Bill Gates wife has informed him that the deployment of
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From: Robert Mueller <rmueller@duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOS-emulators for NeXTStep
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 13:43:21 +0100
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitt Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960116133409.25542B-100000@duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
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Hallo,
I am looking for DOS-emulators for NeXTStep. In particular,
this emulator should have the following features:
a) it should have an API (Application Programmers Interface).
In particular, it should be possible to tell the stupid
emulator via API to launch a stupid DOS/Window-Programme (The
Win-program by launching Windows from the emulator)
b) If the DOS/Window-programm running on the DOS-emulator runs some
network commands like telnet, it should be able to get net-access.
Probably such a emulator does not exist, but may somebody knows an
answer
Any pointers to ftp/www-sites or companies are welcome
Thank you very much in advance
Robert Mueller
rmueller@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOS-emulators for NeXTStep
Date: 16 Jan 1996 13:42:37 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4dga0d$4gd@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960116133409.25542B-100000@duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
In article
<Pine.OSF.3.91.960116133409.25542B-100000@duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Robert Mueller <rmueller@duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> writes:
> Hallo,
>
> I am looking for DOS-emulators for NeXTStep. In particular,
> this emulator should have the following features:
>
> a) it should have an API (Application Programmers Interface).
> In particular, it should be possible to tell the stupid
> emulator via API to launch a stupid DOS/Window-Programme (The
> Win-program by launching Windows from the emulator)
>
> b) If the DOS/Window-programm running on the DOS-emulator runs some
> network commands like telnet, it should be able to get net-access.
>
>
> Probably such a emulator does not exist, but may somebody knows an
> answer
I don't know if you can launch a Windows program, but SoftPC lets you do
all the rest.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk
Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems
Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: glm@easynet.co.uk (Graham Lorimer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WANTED; Nextbase Mapvision WIN London CD.
Date: 16 Jan 1996 14:16:01 GMT
Organization: Graham Lorimer Motorsport Ltd
Message-ID: <4dgbv1$6q5@lemon.easynet.co.uk>
Good Afternoon.
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of this software?
Regards.
Richard Postins.
From: reed@ernie.eecs.uic.edu (Dale Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to Partition Win95 & NS
Date: 16 Jan 1996 14:28:08 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Message-ID: <4dgclo$4ap@news.eecs.uic.edu>
Some time ago I asked for help on how to install both Win95 & NS on a 1G HD
Following are the steps I took in installing both Win95 & NeXTSTep 3.3 on
an Intel machine. I'm no expert, so unless your configuration is exactly
what mine was I probably won't be able to give any help besides what I've
written below. I have a DEC Celebris P133 with a 1G EIDE HD, 32M RAM, Matrox
Millenium graphics adaptor and Toshiba XM-5302B CDROM.
At the end of this file note the list of documents available on-line from
NeXT Answers which were helpful.
1. From DOS, run fdisk. This is used to create a new (smaller) partition in
which Win95 will have to subsequently be installed. I had Win95 already
installed, so I had to select the fdisk option to delete the current partition,
then I choose the option to create a partition. I made it size 350Meg,
though I believe you only need about 80 Meg to install Win95 (but then you
would have no space for any windows programs...) I did not create a second
partition for NeXTStep.
2. I reinstalled Win95 into the 350 Meg partition
3. I installed NeXTStep 3.3 using the CDROM and floppies provided by NeXT.
This is where I ran into problems. First I had to download the IDE ATAPI
device driver to support installation off a ATAPI CDROM (See NeXT Answers).
Second I had to make sure the CDROM and HD were on the same IDE cable
connected to the master IDE controller. Then I tried to configure the CDROM
as slave through the CMOS settings. That didn't work, so I changed the jumper
on the back of the CDROM to the middle of three positions, guessing that the
right-most was Master, middle was slave, and left was cable-select. This
time it worked.
4. Then I just followed the rest of the installation instructions that came
with the software. The user part of the software required 273 Megs.
Documents I found helpful:
These were taken from NeXTAnswers, http://www.next.com
1903 Compatible Systems Tested With NEXTSTEP.rtf
(There was one for my computer, Celecbris GL/ST)
Surviving DOS by Dan Peknik (don't know the number)
Power on? by Wayde Schroeder (don't know the number)
1487 Booting from an Alternative Hard Disk Drive
1951 One PC, More THAN One OS? by Joe Keenan
1109 SCSI Setup
I also had to find and download the latest device drivers from within
NeXTanswers, which was very straightforward.
Hope this helps. Thanks to Uncle Tim and Jerome for their help.
Dale Reed
reed@uic.edu
From: pbrown@asparagus.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: Problems with MouseX
Date: 16 Jan 1996 16:15:25 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Message-ID: <4dgiut$n2g@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <1996Jan16.092044.45900@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Keywords: X11, MouseX
In article <1996Jan16.092044.45900@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>,
Daniel Haas <haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch> wrote:
>When running the MouseX server I cannot return to the Nextstep environment
>via hotkeys or via exiting the X env., the only way to go back to Nextstep
>is to crash the server or to reboot.
>And I still need an advice how to tell MouseX to recognize my german keyboard
I don't know about your German keyboard, but here is my .xinitrc file.
When I type "exit" in the xterm that's open'd below, X drops me back
into NS immediately and closes up shop.
Maybe the "xmodmap" is the way to take care of the keyboard problems?
Paul
".xinitrc"
#!/bin/sh
/usr/bin/X11/twm &
# Redefine the Backspace key for emacs to send ^? instead of ^H
xmodmap -e "keysym BackSpace = Delete"
#
/usr/bin/X11/xterm -bg "#c0ffe0" -fg "#001111" -name Login -j -s -sb -tm
"erase ^H" -geometry 80x10+620+470 -title "X Console" -iconic
From: dale@pegasus (Dale Brisinda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Daily Planner Software?
Date: 16 Jan 1996 18:34:50 GMT
Organization: University of Calgary CPSC
Message-ID: <4dgr4a$s4f@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Is there any day-timer/daily-planner software out there (commercial or shareware)?
Something that allows for an e-mail schedule to be attached to important dates and
perhaps multimedia attachments (esp. sound files) that are automatically played/viewed
etc. on a user-specified interval until acknowledged.
Dale
---
Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student | We write in sand the benefits we
Dept. of Computer Science | receive, but injuries upon marble.
University of Calgary | -- Sir Thomas More (1477?-1535)
brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (NeXTmail)
WWW: http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
From: netvamp@community.net (Matthew Richmond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 68040 Floating Point...
Date: 16 Jan 1996 20:42:49 GMT
Organization: Digital America
Message-ID: <4dh2ka$fbq@oracle.damerica.net>
I was wondering if motorola's 68040 improved floating point software is
already built into NeXTStep...if not, has anybody managed to somehow get
it in there? I need the 68882 FPU instructions that were left out of the
68040's internal FPU.... I dont have a NeXT machine yet but I plan pn
buying one very soon and this will definetly influence my decision...
--
FreeBSD and NetBSD are like cigarrettes...They taste the same, it is
simply an issue of which package you think is prettier...Linux however,
is about as stable as a drunken crack junkie on a pogo stick...
-Matthew Richmond
<netvamp@odin.community.net>
From: ascarsy@jever.cis.uni-muenchen.de (Guido Eiben)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ISASerial drvier cannot handle > 19200 baud???
Date: 17 Jan 1996 00:09:48 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4dheoc$re@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <4belav$eg0@ector.cs.purdue.edu> <RDL.95Dec22205608@world.std.com>
>
> Hi. I started running NeXTstep for a few days from now, I noticed that
tty
> devices using with modem cannot handle speed more than 19200 baud.
> I used to run my ZyXEL modem in 58400 baud on Linux with no problem,
but
> when I call school with more than 38400 baud, I see screen is sometime
garbled,
> and file transfer is full of error. But 19200 seems stable.
> I have new ISASerial drvier and TTY port drvier, I guess 3.33.
> Has anybody noticed the problem?
> ---
> Chang Song
>
Hi,
Try the MUX-Driver for serial ports. That one handles up to 57800 and beyond
baud.
The driver should be on the peanuts archive (peanuts.leo.org).
Hope that helps.
-----guido (Ascarsy)
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From: ascarsy@jever.cis.uni-muenchen.de (Guido Eiben)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: MusikKit and Soundblaster
Date: 17 Jan 1996 00:30:45 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4dhfvl$re@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Hi there,
I have some problems making the MusicKit work. I can install ist ok, but
when I start the
MIDI player, there is no sound. Well, that's not much of a suprise if you
look at the
preferences. There You can choose one of the DSP and MIDI devices. Well, but
for
me there are no devices for choice. So I thought, maybe I gotta install a
MIDI driver.
But when I do this, it tells me a Interrupt (oops - yes I'm on Intel:)
conflict with my soundcard.
Well, that's because my soundcard is a Soundblaster AWE, which is MPU401
compatible.
Does anybody have some installation hints for me? I got:
486DX/50 (running NeXTSTEP 3.3)
Soundblaster AWE (MPU401)
I try to install the MusicKit, so I can use the MIDI functionality of my
soundcard.
help is really appreciated.
thanx
-----guido (Ascarsy)
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From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: something Quicken-like for NS?
Date: 16 Jan 1996 23:42:44 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Message-ID: <4dhd5k$s0h@trane.opensource.com>
References: <4dedp3$ei7@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
In article <4dedp3$ei7@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> Tom Horton <tom> writes:
> I'm wondering if someone can point me to info on applications for
personal
> finance that work in a similar way to Quicken on PCs. I see reference
to
> CheckSum on ObjectTechnologies' Web page; anyone with experience with
that?
>
> I feel embarassed to be asking, since I've been out of touch with the
latest
> and greatest in the NeXT community since NEXTWorld went under and work
has
> gotten busy in the last two years. Perhaps something wonderful has come
along
> in that time? Or perhaps people are running Quicken under SoftPC....
I'm on
> black hardware, BTW.
>
> Thanks!
> Tom
>
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dr. Thomas B. Horton, Associate Professor
> Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering, Florida Atlantic University
> Boca Raton, FL 33431 USA Phone: 407/367-2674 FAX:
407/367-2800
> Internet: tom@cse.fau.edu Bitnet: HortonT@fauvax
I guess nobody told them, but CheckSum is no longer available.
If it is just the checkbook-type of Quicken functionality that you desire,
the tutorial with Athena Design's Mesa spreadsheet contains instructions
for creating just such a thing. The educational price is just $99 and you
get a full-featured spreadsheet, to boot.
Accurate and up-to-date information about third-party NEXTSTEP solutions
can be found on our Web site: http://www.opensource.com.
---
______________________________________________________
| Dan Gamble | OpenSource, Inc. |
| dan@opensource.com | THE Single Source for |
| (NeXTmail welcome) | NEXTSTEP Solutions |
| | |
|------------------------------------------------------|
| 1-800-TRY-OPEN v: 303.861.4411 f: 303.861.2393 |
| |
| WWW: http://www.OpenSource.com/ |
|______________________________________________________|
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Language translators
Date: 17 Jan 1996 00:55:25 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4dhhdt$lm1@news.its.com>
References: <4d3u9e$bnt@netnews.upenn.edu>
ggrant@eudoxos.math.upenn.edu (Gregory Grant) wrote:
> Does anybody know of any Italian/English language translator for NeXTstep?
> Hopefully something like those cool devices they have for French and
> Spanish that translate sentences. I know these exist for PCs and Macs.
Natural Language Processing is one of the great unsolved areas of AI. Sure,
there exist programs that can translate simple sentences right some of the
time, but I am not aware of anything that can handle real-world technical
documents or idiomatic sentences correctly.
The classic example was a translator test from English to Russian and back to
English. "The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak" came back as "The
vodka is good, but the meat is rotten." ;-)
You're at a university; if you need to have some documents translated, go
hire a bilingual undergrad for work-study.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Daily Planner Software?
In-Reply-To: dale@pegasus's message of 16 Jan 1996 18:34:50 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.96Jan16200134@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4dgr4a$s4f@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 01:01:34 GMT
"Pencil Me In" by Sarrus Software will do all of that. Although, unless
you're going to use group scheduling, you are better off with a PDA
(Newton, MagicLink, etc...)
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
In article <4dgr4a$s4f@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> dale@pegasus (Dale Brisinda) writes:
From: dale@pegasus (Dale Brisinda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 16 Jan 1996 18:34:50 GMT
Organization: University of Calgary CPSC
Lines: 13
NNTP-Posting-Host: pegasus.nx.cpsc.ucalgary.ca
X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8a)
Is there any day-timer/daily-planner software out there (commercial or shareware)?
Something that allows for an e-mail schedule to be attached to important dates and
perhaps multimedia attachments (esp. sound files) that are automatically played/viewed
etc. on a user-specified interval until acknowledged.
Dale
---
Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student | We write in sand the benefits we
Dept. of Computer Science | receive, but injuries upon marble.
University of Calgary | -- Sir Thomas More (1477?-1535)
brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (NeXTmail)
WWW: http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
From: mcutler@u.washington.edu (Mark Cutler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Framemaker printing problems
Date: 17 Jan 1996 02:17:11 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <4dhm77$k1t@nntp5.u.washington.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: mcutler
Keywords: Framemaker, Executor
I have been developing course notes for a class using Framemaker.
Many of the examples that I use include postscript files generated
by saving Excel files (run under Executor 1.3) as .ps files,
converting them to .eps graphics using PixelMagician, and importing
into Framemaker.
Here's my problem:
Any time that I include more than one graphic on a page, an additional
blank page prints for each graphic. Also, when I try to
convert these files using Acrobat Diffuser, my other machine (PowerMac)
crashes. I am assuming these problems are related.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Mark
From: martel@marty (David B. Martel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Daily Planner Software?
Date: 17 Jan 1996 03:13:35 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <4dhpgv$bp1@sundog.tiac.net>
References: <4dgr4a$s4f@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
dale@pegasus (Dale Brisinda) wrote:
> Is there any day-timer/daily-planner software out there (commercial or shareware)?
> Something that allows for an e-mail schedule to be attached to important dates and
> perhaps multimedia attachments (esp. sound files) that are automatically played/viewed
> etc. on a user-specified interval until acknowledged.
> Dale
> ---
> Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student | We write in sand the benefits we
> Dept. of Computer Science | receive, but injuries upon marble.
> University of Calgary | -- Sir Thomas More (1477?-1535)
> brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (NeXTmail)
> WWW: http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
Check out Pencil Me In from Sarrus Software, Inc. I use it for my personal schedule and
my company uses it to coordinate our business activities. Send them a note at
info@sarrus.com.
Dave
----------------------------
David Martel
Pangea Corporation
dave@pangea.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Daily Planner Software?
In-Reply-To: rdl@world.std.com's message of Wed, 17 Jan 1996 01:01:34 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.96Jan17000905@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4dgr4a$s4f@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <RDL.96Jan16200134@world.std.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 05:09:05 GMT
Just wanted to give my rationale for my statement. If you can't keep
all of your schedule in one place that you can take with you, a daily
planner won't be very practical.
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
In article <RDL.96Jan16200134@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) writes:
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4dgr4a$s4f@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 01:01:34 GMT
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"Pencil Me In" by Sarrus Software will do all of that. Although, unless
you're going to use group scheduling, you are better off with a PDA
(Newton, MagicLink, etc...)
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
In article <4dgr4a$s4f@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> dale@pegasus (Dale Brisinda) writes:
From: dale@pegasus (Dale Brisinda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 16 Jan 1996 18:34:50 GMT
Organization: University of Calgary CPSC
Lines: 13
NNTP-Posting-Host: pegasus.nx.cpsc.ucalgary.ca
X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8a)
Is there any day-timer/daily-planner software out there (commercial or shareware)?
Something that allows for an e-mail schedule to be attached to important dates and
perhaps multimedia attachments (esp. sound files) that are automatically played/viewed
etc. on a user-specified interval until acknowledged.
Dale
---
Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student | We write in sand the benefits we
Dept. of Computer Science | receive, but injuries upon marble.
University of Calgary | -- Sir Thomas More (1477?-1535)
brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR dale@pegasus.cuc.ab.ca (NeXTmail)
WWW: http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Unable to print with JetPilot+HP DeskJet850C
Date: 17 Jan 1996 00:31:45 +0100
Organization: University of Bergen
Message-ID: <4dhch1$a9e@alf.uib.no>
References: <4ckr1g$4rl@nuke.csu.net> <4d60o0$3jt@netty.york.ac.uk>
Just a thought...
At boot time (before NeXTStep starts) go into BIOS setup and
confirm that the parelell port is indeed at the adresses
specified in Configure, and that it is configured as a
normal (not EPP or similar) parelell port. If everything
is correct, I would begin suspecting a bad board or
bad port... but then I'm not any expert...
Regards,
--
Thor Legvold | This is the strangest life
NorNeXT User Group leader | I've ever known...
University of Bergen | - Jim Morrison, The Doors
Norway | edmtl@edb.uib.no (NeXTmail)
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quad-Binary WebMapper package now available
Date: 17 Jan 1996 04:13:05 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4dht0h$61j@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4df6cd$4vg@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) wrote:
> WebMapper version 0.5 (Alpha) is a NEXTSTEP 3.3 application that
> lets you create clickable imagemaps for the World-Wide Web.
...
> But... I now have a WebMapper package (WebMapper.pkg ~3MB)
> available through my home page. This version fixes a small bug
> and is compiled for all four architectures. In general, this
> location will always have the latest version of WebMapper.
>
> http://libra.caup.umich.edu/Software/
I have picked up this latest pkg file, downloaded it, and
turned it into four single-architecture binaries and one
quad-fat binary. You can find them at:
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/web/WebMapper_f/
along with the README files (one plain text, one RTF). You
will want to pick up one of these readme files. The result
of doing this is that you will have much smaller files to
deal with. The single-architecture files (which are tar.gz,
not pkg) are only about 500K. The quad-fat archive is 2meg.
I hope this makes the package more interesting to those who
are on PPP or SLIP links... :-)
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Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: something Quicken-like for NS?
Date: 17 Jan 1996 04:19:08 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4dhtbs$61j@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4dedp3$ei7@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
Tom Horton <tom> wrote:
> I'm wondering if someone can point me to info on applications
> for personal finance that work in a similar way to Quicken on
> PCs. I see reference to CheckSum on ObjectTechnologies' Web
> page; anyone with experience with that?
I have CheckSum on my NeXT at home. Seems like it would work
pretty well to replace my (older) version of Quicken on the Mac.
I haven't yet switched from Quicken to Checksum because
1) My Mac has a (non-postscript) printer on it, my NeXT
has no printer.
2) my mac has more spare disk space...
> I feel embarassed to be asking, since I've been out of touch
> with the latest and greatest in the NeXT community since
> NEXTWorld went under and work has gotten busy in the last two
> years. Perhaps something wonderful has come along in that
> time? Or perhaps people are running Quicken under SoftPC....
> I'm on black hardware, BTW.
One of my friends and his wife run the PC version of Quicken under
SoftPC. They have done so for at least a year now, perhaps two.
No major complaints that I'm aware of.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape for NeXT?
Date: 16 Jan 1996 17:56:08 GMT
Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4dgoro$2oq@rainix.jena.thur.de>
References: <DL401r.Gzq@utcc.utoronto.ca> <DL53s4.859@musical.fdn.org>
Sam Przyswa (sam@musical.fdn.org) wrote:
: Try, Netsurfer 1.11 it's Netscape compatible.
Netsurfer doesn't support tables. IMHO this is a strong argument for OmniWeb
2, but OmniWeb is still a beta- (or better alpha-) release.
But I think you should ask for a HTML-3 compatible browser,
<blink>not</blink> for a Netscape-compatible one ;-))
Rainer
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From: rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOS-emulators for NeXTStep
Date: 16 Jan 1996 17:58:25 GMT
Organization: Thueringen Net, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4dgp01$2oq@rainix.jena.thur.de>
References: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960116133409.25542B-100000@duchesse.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> <4dga0d$4gd@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
Paul Lynch (paul@plsys.co.uk) wrote:
: I don't know if you can launch a Windows program, but SoftPC lets you do
: all the rest.
SoftPC comes with Windows (3.1)
Rainer
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: ISASerial drvier cannot handle > 19200 baud???
In-Reply-To: ascarsy@jever.cis.uni-muenchen.de's message of 17 Jan 1996 00:09:48 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.96Jan17000441@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4belav$eg0@ector.cs.purdue.edu> <RDL.95Dec22205608@world.std.com>
<4dheoc$re@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 05:04:41 GMT
You can certainly run the ISASerialPort/PortServer drivers at 57,600 baud.
Make sure that you have the 3.3 patch installed, the latest versions of
those drivers, 16550AFN or better UARTs in your system, and make sure that
you properly configure the drivers. What I mean by the latter is that on
some dual boot systems, people tend to forget to update BOTH System.configs
and also when you install a new driver it is very important to use
Configure.app to remove the old driver and set up the new one. If you
don't do this, you may have an invalid InstanceX.table for those drivers
that can cause certain problems. Lastly, there may be some BIOS problems
so check your settings and BIOS version.
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
In article <4dheoc$re@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> ascarsy@jever.cis.uni-muenchen.de (Guido Eiben) writes:
> Hi. I started running NeXTstep for a few days from now, I noticed that
tty
> devices using with modem cannot handle speed more than 19200 baud.
> I used to run my ZyXEL modem in 58400 baud on Linux with no problem,
but
> when I call school with more than 38400 baud, I see screen is sometime
garbled,
> and file transfer is full of error. But 19200 seems stable.
> I have new ISASerial drvier and TTY port drvier, I guess 3.33.
> Has anybody noticed the problem?
> ---
> Chang Song
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: ISASerial drvier cannot handle > 19200 baud???
In-Reply-To: ascarsy@jever.cis.uni-muenchen.de's message of 17 Jan 1996 00:09:48 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.96Jan17000601@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4belav$eg0@ector.cs.purdue.edu> <RDL.95Dec22205608@world.std.com>
<4dheoc$re@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 05:06:01 GMT
And make sure you use /dev/cuf* for calling out and that you have cables
that support hardware flow control. Your modem will also need to be set
to handle CTS/RTS hardware flow control.
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
In article <4dheoc$re@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> ascarsy@jever.cis.uni-muenchen.de (Guido Eiben) writes:
>
> Hi. I started running NeXTstep for a few days from now, I noticed that
tty
> devices using with modem cannot handle speed more than 19200 baud.
> I used to run my ZyXEL modem in 58400 baud on Linux with no problem,
but
> when I call school with more than 38400 baud, I see screen is sometime
garbled,
> and file transfer is full of error. But 19200 seems stable.
> I have new ISASerial drvier and TTY port drvier, I guess 3.33.
> Has anybody noticed the problem?
> ---
> Chang Song
>
Hi,
Try the MUX-Driver for serial ports. That one handles up to 57800 and beyond
baud.
The driver should be on the peanuts archive (peanuts.leo.org).
Hope that helps.
-----guido (Ascarsy)
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From: Stefan Leuker <leuker>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape for NeXT?
Date: 17 Jan 1996 08:11:54 GMT
Organization: RWTH -Aachen / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik
Message-ID: <4dib0a$f3i@news.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <DL401r.Gzq@utcc.utoronto.ca> <DL53s4.859@musical.fdn.org> <4dgoro$2oq@rainix.jena.thur.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de (Rainer Sokoll) wrote:
>But I think you should ask for a HTML-3 compatible browser,
><blink>not</blink> for a Netscape-compatible one ;-))
>
Watch out for the upcoming quad-fat beta-1c of arena for NEXTSTEP/X.
It requires X11 to run, but is HTML3 compatible and kind of cool
on other platforms.
Stefan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kasahara@cpnx2.b6.kanagawa-u.ac.jp (Kasahara Katsuaki)
Subject: Re: Inserting multiple eps file in TeX using InstantTeX
Message-ID: <DLBqAn.EEp@kochi.cc.kanagawa-u.ac.jp>
Sender: news@kochi.cc.kanagawa-u.ac.jp (News Manager)
Organization: Computer Center, Kanagawa University, Kanagawa, Japan
References: <4d6t6m$885@apopi.u-strasbg.fr>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:51:59 GMT
In article <4d6t6m$885@apopi.u-strasbg.fr> Denis GESBERT writes:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to know how I can insert more than one file in a TeX file
using InstantTeX. I'm currently using the 3.1 version for Intel processor
(available on Oregon State server), that give me some "TeXErrors" when I
try to add a second image to a file...
>
> Any help will be appreciate
>
> Sincerly
>
> Denis
You may put the following fragment in your Library/InstantTeX/picture.tex
%------------------
\begin{figure}[h] % [t] or [b]
\hspace*{1cm}
\epsfysize=\picsize
\leavevmode\epsffile{\picfilename}
\caption{This is figure caption}
\label{Label}
\end{figure}
%-----------------
To use this, you need a stylefile "epsf.sty" which can be found in
many ftp sites.
# I use the length unit in cm; say, I use
dwrite TeXEdit PicSize 5cm
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---Kasahara Katsuaki
Engineering Department, Kanagawa University, Yokohama, Rokkaku-Bashi,
Kanagawa, Japan
kasahara@cpnx2.b6.kanagawa-u.ac.jp (NeXT/MIME mail welcome)
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unix "cut" command for NeXT?
Date: 17 Jan 1996 07:39:50 -0500
Organization: PHCS
Message-ID: <4diqmm$h5n@papoose.quick.com>
References: <4crie0$leq@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
In article <4crie0$leq@msunews.cl.msu.edu>,
Todd E Van Hoosear <vanhoose@gdl.msu.edu> wrote:
>Anyone know how I can get hold of source/binaries for the standard Unix
>cut command for the NeXT (black 3.2)?
A version of the standard cut and paste utilities can be found
in the gnu textutils distribution. You can get this from either
prep.ai.mit.edu or any of its mirror sites around the world.
--
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/ / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K.
\_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343
) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: leigh@antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MusikKit and Soundblaster
Date: 17 Jan 1996 12:52:55 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4dirf7$c6h@styx.uwa.edu.au>
References: <4dhfvl$re@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
In article <4dhfvl$re@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
ascarsy@jever.cis.uni-muenchen.de (Guido Eiben) writes:
> Hi there,
> I have some problems making the MusicKit work. I can install ist ok, but
> when I start the
> MIDI player, there is no sound. Well, that's not much of a suprise if
you
> look at the
> preferences. There You can choose one of the DSP and MIDI devices. Well,
but
> for
> me there are no devices for choice. So I thought, maybe I gotta install
a
> MIDI driver.
> But when I do this, it tells me a Interrupt (oops - yes I'm on Intel:)
> conflict with my soundcard.
> Well, that's because my soundcard is a Soundblaster AWE, which is MPU401
> compatible.
> Does anybody have some installation hints for me? I got:
>
> 486DX/50 (running NeXTSTEP 3.3)
> Soundblaster AWE (MPU401)
>
> I try to install the MusicKit, so I can use the MIDI functionality of my
> soundcard.
The MusicKit is mostly oriented towards a Motorola 5600X DSP, which
usually resides in the black hardware or from a couple of vendors (iLink
in my case) on white, the Soundblaster won't output soundsamples under the
MK, only MIDI. Yes, you can use it for MIDI only, I guess you mean using
ScorePlayer.app or playscore, otherwise there is a MIDI driver example
(playmidifile, recordmidifile) which will play Level 0 files that comes
with 3.3, but won't work as distributed with white hardware.
http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~mrozek/nextmusic/NxtSndMusProgs.html
has a version which does.
The first trick is to resolve your interrupt and/or port clash between the
MIDI interrupt (probably defaults to IRQ 5, port 0x330) of the
soundblaster and the MIDI driver. You will need to remove the interrupt
definitions of the MIDI device from the Soundblaster configuration
(perhaps using the expert mode to edit the .table definition). That may
well require you swapping jumpers on the card or running configuration
software (& perhaps doing similar things in DOS/Windoze) to use a port
base and IRQ other than 0x330/IRQ5 for the MIDI hardware.
It is feasible that the Soundblaster is not as MPU-401 compatible at
cold-boot as it may be touted to be and so won't actually run with the
MIDI driver (which you will need to get from the MusicKit regardless of
which output software you use). It's also feasible (but unlikely) that the
soundblaster may use the IRQ & port base for MIDI for sound functions also
and therefore not run as an audio without the MIDI IRQ/port definitions.
Good luck...
--
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+61-9-380-1945 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME)
"In a world where success means gaining time, thinking has a single but
irredeemable fault: it's a waste of time" - J-F. Lyotard
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: rsh: TERM: Undefined variable?
Date: 17 Jan 1996 12:35:16 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <4diqe4$1al@news.tuwien.ac.at>
I have two computers (raven and ray) whith NeXTStep 3.3 installed. When
I use rsh to remotely execute a program, I have the following problem:
raven:rft> rsh ray /bin/true
TERM: Undefined variable.
raven:rft>
ray:rft> rsh raven /bin/true
TERM: Undefined variable.
ray:rft>
The program /bin/true or whatever else I call, does execute correctly,
but I think the 'TERM: Undefined variable' is the reason that
'OpenSesame' on a remote host does not work with my machines. (Some
details: I am using tcsh 6.06, and my .rhosts file seems to be set up
correctly. If i do an rsh on one of the non-next computers, that I have
access to, the problem does not arise.)
Does anybody know what the problem is? I'd appreciate any help!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at
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From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOS-emulators for NeXTStep
Date: 17 Jan 1996 15:43:03 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4dj5e7$42t@trane.opensource.com>
References: <4dgp01$2oq@rainix.jena.thur.de>
In article <4dgp01$2oq@rainix.jena.thur.de> rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de
(Rainer Sokoll) writes:
> Paul Lynch (paul@plsys.co.uk) wrote:
> : I don't know if you can launch a Windows program, but SoftPC lets you
do
> : all the rest.
>
> SoftPC comes with Windows (3.1)
>
> Rainer
> --
>
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(NeXTMail ok) |
> |
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>
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It does not, however, come with the API the original poster requires.
--
______________________________________________________
| Dan Gamble | OpenSource, Inc. |
| dan@opensource.com | THE Single Source for |
| (NeXTmail welcome) | NEXTSTEP Solutions |
| | |
|------------------------------------------------------|
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: rsh: TERM: Undefined variable?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:25:15 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960117122321.1207B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4diqe4$1al@news.tuwien.ac.at>
On 17 Jan 1996 rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at wrote:
>
> I have two computers (raven and ray) whith NeXTStep 3.3 installed. When
> I use rsh to remotely execute a program, I have the following problem:
>
> raven:rft> rsh ray /bin/true
> TERM: Undefined variable.
> raven:rft>
>
> ray:rft> rsh raven /bin/true
> TERM: Undefined variable.
> ray:rft>
>
> The program /bin/true or whatever else I call, does execute correctly,
> but I think the 'TERM: Undefined variable' is the reason that
> 'OpenSesame' on a remote host does not work with my machines. (Some
> details: I am using tcsh 6.06, and my .rhosts file seems to be set up
> correctly. If i do an rsh on one of the non-next computers, that I have
> access to, the problem does not arise.)
Hmm, does rsh use /bin/sh no matter what your login shell is? If so, you
may just need to add
TERM=vt100
to your .profile (maybe both)
>
> Does anybody know what the problem is? I'd appreciate any help!
No, but this is my best guess
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Everything is easy when you know what you are doing"
Dr. Robert Cupper, Department of Computer Science,
Allegheny College, Meadville, PA
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOS-emulators for NeXTStep
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 17:21:52 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Jan17.172152.3504@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4dgp01$2oq@rainix.jena.thur.de>
In article <4dgp01$2oq@rainix.jena.thur.de> rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de
(Rainer Sokoll) writes:
> Paul Lynch (paul@plsys.co.uk) wrote:
> : I don't know if you can launch a Windows program, but SoftPC lets you
do
> : all the rest.
>
> SoftPC comes with Windows (3.1)
I think that the original request was to be able to launch a Windows
program from the command line. SoftPC will let you do this with .exe
programs into DOS; I don't know (and admit to not caring) about Windows.
Paul
--
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http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
(under construction)
From: rruth@studio.disney.com (Richard Ruth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP-2.2 dynamic ip assignment - HOW?
Date: 17 Jan 1996 18:54:54 GMT
Organization: Walt Disney Studios
Message-ID: <4djglu$krt@cabinboy.studio.disney.com>
Keywords: PPP ip NeXT
How do I set up ppp-2.2-0.1.9 (or should I use ppp-2.2-0.4.6) to
use dynamic ip address assignment when connecting to a Shiva LanRover?
Any directions, connection scripts, hints or location of where
to find this info would be appreciated.
I have attempted to connect to http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ to
look for this info and have received connection errors for the last two days.
Thanks
--
Richard
rruth@studio.disney.com
(NeXT-Mail welcome)
From: jacques.garbi@colombus.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: pppd ran as daemon
Date: 17 Jan 1996 21:34:12 GMT
Organization: Colombus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4djq0k$1e7@news.petrel.ch>
Company: Colombus Inc.
Hi,
Being recently connected to the Net through a leased line, I'd like to be able
to start a PPP connection as soon as the computer is turned on. So far I used
GateKeeper 1.0 to help me out through a dial-up connection, but it means I have
to logged in first.
Is there a way to automatically start a PPP connection (I need to login into my
provider host with username and password for security reason) ?
If the PPP connection fail at one time or another, will it affect other
applications, or the system itself ?
Is it possible to automatically restart a PPP negotiation (including username
and password) if the PPP connection fail ?
To retrieve my mail, so far I used PopOver.app. Is there any other app I could
use ran as a daemon that would automatically and seamlessly retrieve my mail
from a Pop server ?
Thanks for all your help
---
Jacques GARBI
Colombus Inc.
Av. de France 33
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone : 011 41 21 661 16 76
Fax : 011 41 21 661 16 73
NeXTMail or MIME : jacques.garbi@colombus.ch
From: jacques.garbi@colombus.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Satan 1.1.1 and NeXTSTEP
Date: 17 Jan 1996 21:35:32 GMT
Organization: Colombus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4djq34$1e7@news.petrel.ch>
Company: Colombus Inc.
Hi,
Did anyone succeeded in compiling Satan 1.1.1 for NS 3.3 Intel ?
How ? Is there an already compiled package somewhere ?
Thanks
---
Jacques GARBI
Colombus Inc.
Av. de France 33
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone : 011 41 21 661 16 76
Fax : 011 41 21 661 16 73
NeXTMail or MIME : jacques.garbi@colombus.ch
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP-2.2 dynamic ip assignment - HOW?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 20:38:12 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Jan17.203812.4473@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4djglu$krt@cabinboy.studio.disney.com>
In article <4djglu$krt@cabinboy.studio.disney.com> rruth@studio.disney.com
(Richard Ruth) writes:
> How do I set up ppp-2.2-0.1.9 (or should I use ppp-2.2-0.4.6) to
> use dynamic ip address assignment when connecting to a Shiva LanRover?
Using default values, it just works; provided that the ppp server permits
IPCP negaotiation. Check that ipcp-accept-local is set.
> I have attempted to connect to http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ to
> look for this info and have received connection errors for the last two
days.
I haven't been able to connect to ftp.thoughtport.com for some time;
Peanuts is problematical, and the src.doc.ic.ac.uk mirror of
ftp.cs.orst.edu seems to have most files deleted from it.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
(under construction)
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DOS-emulators for NeXTStep
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 17:32:46 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Jan17.173246.3669@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4dj5e7$42t@trane.opensource.com>
In article <4dj5e7$42t@trane.opensource.com> dan@opensource.com (Daniel J.
Gamble) writes:
> In article <4dgp01$2oq@rainix.jena.thur.de> rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de
> (Rainer Sokoll) writes:
> > Paul Lynch (paul@plsys.co.uk) wrote:
> > : I don't know if you can launch a Windows program, but SoftPC lets
you
> do
> > : all the rest.
> >
> > SoftPC comes with Windows (3.1)
>
> It does not, however, come with the API the original poster requires.
I don't know about that: system("/usr/bin/open dosprog.exe"); does exactly
what he was asking for (for DOS programs).
Paul :-)
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From: espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC in color?
Date: 18 Jan 1996 00:21:16 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <4dk3ps$2l4@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Hi Y'all,
Is there a version of SoftPC demo that will run in color? On my system it
only runs in Black and White.
Thanks in advance,
Eric Peyton
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: pppd ran as daemon
Date: 18 Jan 1996 02:59:26 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4dkd2e$rmr@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <4djq0k$1e7@news.petrel.ch>
In <4djq0k$1e7@news.petrel.ch> Jacques Garbi wrote:
> Is there a way to automatically start a PPP connection (I need to login
into my
> provider host with username and password for security reason) ?
> If the PPP connection fail at one time or another, will it affect other
> applications, or the system itself ?
> Is it possible to automatically restart a PPP negotiation (including
username
> and password) if the PPP connection fail ?
> To retrieve my mail, so far I used PopOver.app. Is there any other app I
could
> use ran as a daemon that would automatically and seamlessly retrieve my
mail
Hmmm... I believe that PopOver.app comes with a command line version that
you can call from cron. Further, you can write a pppup script that will log
you in using 'chat'. This could be placed in /etc/rc.local to start PPP
when the system boots. Further, if you have an intel system, get the latest
serial drivers. I believe they have a special device /dev/cudfa or
/dev/cudfb that will enable the system to detect hangups. When you use
these devices along with the 'persist' option, pppd will try to redial if it
gets disconnected.
Hope this helps.
- Steve
--
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.3
NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: wxli@harpy.ualr.edu (Wei Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT printer prints black page
Date: 18 Jan 1996 03:57:47 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock
Message-ID: <4dkgfr$jus@news.ualr.edu>
I need help on a problem that I have experienced in the last
several month after I upgraded to NS 3.0 from NS 2.1. The
printer frequently prints out a page of black ink. The
immediate reprint of the same document normally works just
fine. I remember that my printer used to (NS 2.1 ) print
blank pages, but not like right now with a page full of
black ink. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
-wei,
wxli@ualr.edu
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: 68040 Floating Point...
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DLCFMz.LnK@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 20:59:23 GMT
References: <4dh2ka$fbq@oracle.damerica.net>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4dh2ka$fbq@oracle.damerica.net>,
Matthew Richmond <netvamp@community.net> wrote:
>I was wondering if motorola's 68040 improved floating point software is
>already built into NeXTStep...if not, has anybody managed to somehow get
>it in there? I need the 68882 FPU instructions that were left out of the
>68040's internal FPU.... I dont have a NeXT machine yet but I plan pn
>buying one very soon and this will definetly influence my decision...
>
I gather that it was added in 3.0; there were patches to 2.x to make it use
them, instead of the whole-hog line FF stuff.
--
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Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
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Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: dwright1@omni.voicenet.com (Darren Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Proxy software?\
Date: 18 Jan 1996 05:06:20 GMT
Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290
Message-ID: <4dkkgc$qi3@news.voicenet.com>
Can this be done?
INTERNET -------- NeXT --------- PC running windows 95
I've got 1 IP for the NeXT box...the Pc has a forged IP.
Can I run a proxy server software on the NeXT so the PC can access HTTP pages
on the internet?
Is there such an animal?
-Darren
From: ileslie@nmsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: pop3d
Date: 17 Jan 96 15:17:38
Organization: New Mexico State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <ileslie.96Jan17151738@orack>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Keywords: pop3d
I have a NeXTstation running NeXTSTEP 3.0. I would like to get POP3D, or an equivalent, so I can read my mail from home (the NeXT is at the university). Has anyone done this on a NeXT? Our systems guy has tried to help me but he hasn't got it to work.
Thanks,
Ian Leslie
e-mail ileslie@nmsu.edu
From: walker@imap1.asu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Suggestions for NeXT Database Package?
Date: 18 Jan 1996 02:33:38 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University
Message-ID: <4dkbi2$jpb@news.asu.edu>
Hi folks. If anyone might have the time to give their two cents with
respect to their NeXT DB package of choice, I would be indebted.
Would be nice if it were:
-Relational
-Accessable with customized code (like C with embedded SQL, or Perl
scripts, or whatever...I'm new to this)
-But still having programming tools to make initial setup from GUI a
fairly pleasant experience
-Reasonably priced, like the possibility of <$500 w/ student
discount...don't expect many people will have a good fix on this one :)
Need to get a DB <--> Web browser project going and I can't wait any longer
to see if I was fortunate enough to be chosen for Web Objects beta
testing!! :)
I'm running 3.3 on an Intel machine with P120 and 32mb of ram. Thanks
very much to anyone who can recommend a DB package or even a resource
that talks about DB programming using the developer's kit...or any other
ideas from someone who may have been down this road before!!!!
Thanks!! -Robin Walker
From: jacques.garbi@colombus.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Daily Planner Software?
Date: 18 Jan 1996 07:50:17 GMT
Organization: Colombus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4dku3p$3u6@news.petrel.ch>
Company: Colombus Inc.
In article <RDL.96Jan16200134@world.std.com> Robert La Ferla wrote:
"Pencil Me In" by Sarrus Software will do all of that. Although,
unless
>you're going to use group scheduling, you are better off with a PDA
>(Newton, MagicLink, etc...)
>
>Robert La Ferla
>Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
>Boston, MA
>Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
>Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
>E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
What drivers are actually available to connect thos DPA's to NeXTSTEP
Intel machines ? What's your best PDA ?
Thanks
---
Jacques GARBI
Colombus Inc.
Av. de France 33
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone : 011 41 21 661 16 76
Fax : 011 41 21 661 16 73
NeXTMail or MIME : jacques.garbi@colombus.ch
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: config transsys dialup ip on 3.0 w/QBlazer 9600
Message-ID: <DLCKGJ.tA@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <4dcii1$2r5@news.cais.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 22:43:31 GMT
Use kermit or some other program to manually dial into the slip account.
This way you can see what the remote machine sends and try to find what it
expects to receive.
Should help you to set the script according to your needs.
Juergen
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= when a politician's idea of social change is changing names
= when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC in color?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 08:38:47 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Jan18.083847.6165@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4dk3ps$2l4@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
In article <4dk3ps$2l4@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> espeyton@ix.netcom.com
(Espeyton) writes:
> Is there a version of SoftPC demo that will run in color? On my system
it
> only runs in Black and White.
It runs in colour. You might care to give more details of your system;
the only glitch I can think of is that older versions of SoftPC didn't
like 8 bit colour displays.
Paul
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(under construction)
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Proxy software?\
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 08:40:33 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Jan18.084033.6228@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4dkkgc$qi3@news.voicenet.com>
In article <4dkkgc$qi3@news.voicenet.com> dwright1@omni.voicenet.com
(Darren Wright) writes:
> Can this be done?
>
> INTERNET -------- NeXT --------- PC running windows 95
>
> I've got 1 IP for the NeXT box...the Pc has a forged IP.
Yes, given the right software for Win95.
> Can I run a proxy server software on the NeXT so the PC can access HTTP
pages
> on the internet?
You need a caching Web server. CERN does this, as does Harvester. There
are binary installations of both these; for CERN on the main distribution
site, and for Harvester on ftp.cs.orst.edu.
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
(under construction)
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What are the FTP sites for GNU apps?
Date: 18 Jan 1996 10:47:35 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-58.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4dl8g7$cne@usc.edu>
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Has someone compiled GNU fileutils-3.12 for NS m68k?
Date: 18 Jan 1996 11:22:25 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-58.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4dlahh$cne@usc.edu>
And would be willing the NeXTMAIL it to me with the man pages?
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
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NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
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From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: DOS-emulators for NeXTStep
Message-ID: <DLDJxJ.Erp@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <1996Jan17.172152.3504@seer.demon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 11:29:42 GMT
In article <1996Jan17.172152.3504@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch
<Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk> writes:
> In article <4dgp01$2oq@rainix.jena.thur.de> rainer@rainix.jena.thur.de
> (Rainer Sokoll) writes:
> > Paul Lynch (paul@plsys.co.uk) wrote:
> > : I don't know if you can launch a Windows program, but SoftPC lets
you
> do
> > : all the rest.
> >
> > SoftPC comes with Windows (3.1)
>
> I think that the original request was to be able to launch a Windows
> program from the command line. SoftPC will let you do this with .exe
> programs into DOS; I don't know (and admit to not caring) about
Windows.
>
I was staying out of this one, but I figure its time for a little
(unofficial) comment.
SoftPC will open DOS exe and bat files. As Paul has pointed out
open("xxx.exe") will run the executable. Batch files are a little more
flexable, as you could write into a batch file from your software, then
open it in SoftPC. You can also open hdf files, but thats a little less
usefull (though if you're starting several versions it allows you to
easly override the default boot disk - see below).
As a final trick (which may be undocumented) if you start SoftPC from
the command line (/LocalApps/SoftPC/SoftPC) you can give it a -c
argument which executes the command line eg:.
/LocalApps/SoftPC/SoftPC -NXOpen MyDisk.hdf -c "dir c:\insigia"
Throw in some "net use" commands to specify Unix directories, and you
can get quite a bit done (we use this for our build process). Commands
may be seperated by a ;. Also if you start it from the command line
rather than the UI you can have multiple copies running.
Starting stuff in Windows isn't currently supported. It's one of the big
things on the wish list to be able to double click on files in File
Viewer and have them opened in Windows apps. I've got a good idea how do
do it, so it might make it into any future versions.
In the mean time you could open a batch file which stzarts windows,
having munged the startup group to run the programs that you want
(prehaps with windows recorder scripts).
If you want real interactive control you could try communicating with
windows programs via one of the com: ports. I haven't tried this, but
you should be able to assign the comm port to a pseudo tty and have a
windows program driving things inside SoftPC on the directions of an
external NeXT App.
Ian
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From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: SoftPC in color?
Message-ID: <DLDMo7.G66@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <4dk3ps$2l4@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 12:28:55 GMT
In article <4dk3ps$2l4@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> espeyton@ix.netcom.com
(Espeyton) writes:
> Hi Y'all,
>
> Is there a version of SoftPC demo that will run in color? On my
system it
> only runs in Black and White.
You've almost certainly got SoftPC4.0 for intel, running on NeXTStep3.3
with 8bit colour video.
SoftPC4.0 was written for NeXTStep 3.2 which didn't support 8 bit colour
so SoftPC doesn't understand this configuration (the joys of
interceptor!). It plays safe and goes to black and white.
SoftPC4.1 (the current shipping version) includes support for 8bit video
cards.
Ian
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC in color?
Date: 18 Jan 1996 15:56:53 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4dlqk5$11l@turbocat.snafu.de>
References: <4dk3ps$2l4@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Espeyton) wrote:
> Hi Y'all,
>
> Is there a version of SoftPC demo that will run in color? On my system it
> only runs in Black and White.
On Intel it runs in color if you have hicolor (16 bit).
_ _
_(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development,
(_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG,
_/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152
(______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu (Bill Bereza)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: dwrite to enable Read Receipt interception
Date: 18 Jan 1996 16:05:53 GMT
Organization: My Bedroom, Ravenna, MI
Message-ID: <4dlr51$1ma@news.it.gvsu.edu>
A while ago someone posted a dwrite for Mail.app 3.3 that would enable
a window that would pop up whenever you read mail from someone who asked
for a read receipt. In a recent attempt to find a problem I was having
with Mail, I removed all of my Mail defaults entries. Now I've forgotten
what that one default was to set the Read Receipt interception.
Could someone post or mail me what it is?
Thank you.
--
Bill Bereza berezaw@river.it.gvsu.edu <NeXT/MIME>
Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes.
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Suggestions for NeXT Database Package?
Date: 18 Jan 1996 17:02:47 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Message-ID: <4dlufn$eig@trane.opensource.com>
References: <4dkbi2$jpb@news.asu.edu>
In article <4dkbi2$jpb@news.asu.edu> walker@imap1.asu.edu writes:
> Hi folks. If anyone might have the time to give their two cents with
> respect to their NeXT DB package of choice, I would be indebted.
>
> Would be nice if it were:
>
> -Relational
> -Accessable with customized code (like C with embedded SQL, or Perl
> scripts, or whatever...I'm new to this)
> -But still having programming tools to make initial setup from GUI a
> fairly pleasant experience
> -Reasonably priced, like the possibility of <$500 w/ student
> discount...don't expect many people will have a good fix on this one :)
>
> Need to get a DB <--> Web browser project going and I can't wait any
longer
> to see if I was fortunate enough to be chosen for Web Objects beta
> testing!! :)
>
> I'm running 3.3 on an Intel machine with P120 and 32mb of ram. Thanks
> very much to anyone who can recommend a DB package or even a resource
> that talks about DB programming using the developer's kit...or any other
> ideas from someone who may have been down this road before!!!!
>
> Thanks!! -Robin Walker
Check out QuickBase (http://www.quickbase.com). It should meet all of you
criteria except the <$500, but at $895 for a three-user license, it's
still a great deal!
You'll also find descriptions and demos of a variety of other useful
database tools and utilities at
http://www.opensource.com/Software/Database/Start-Database.html
Drop me an email if I can be of service.
---
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From: Yibing Wu <yibwu@plato.sky.bdm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for a "Graph Display" palette
Date: 18 Jan 1996 18:43:48 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <4dm4d4$n95@news.mcl.bdm.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
We are constructing a front end for a relational data source. Some of the
entities either have tree/graph like relation among themselves or records that
have this kind of relation. For example, a manager can manages multiple
salesman and some of the salesman may share one customer, etc.
I am looking for some kind of palette that would enable us to display this kind
of relationship "GRAPHICALLY". Like, display a root node(manager) in a
canvas-like view, when you double click on this node, all the nodes denoting
salesperson will come to its right and has a line like to the root node, so on
so forth. We do need the palette would be able to display network-like
relation, though.
Any Input? Thanks!
A graph is like(roughly):
b
/
a
\ d
c/
\
e
Yibing Wu
From: robin@pswtech.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ISASerial drvier cannot handle > 19200 baud???
Date: 18 Jan 1996 17:18:25 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software
Message-ID: <4dlvd1$msi@digdug.pswtech.com>
References: <4belav$eg0@ector.cs.purdue.edu> <RDL.95Dec22205608@world.std.com> <4dheoc$re@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
ascarsy@jever.cis.uni-muenchen.de (Guido Eiben) wrote:
: >
: > Hi. I started running NeXTstep for a few days from now, I noticed that
: tty
: > devices using with modem cannot handle speed more than 19200 baud.
: > I used to run my ZyXEL modem in 58400 baud on Linux with no problem,
: but
: > when I call school with more than 38400 baud, I see screen is sometime
: garbled,
: > and file transfer is full of error. But 19200 seems stable.
: > I have new ISASerial drvier and TTY port drvier, I guess 3.33.
: > Has anybody noticed the problem?
: > ---
: > Chang Song
: >
: Hi,
: Try the MUX-Driver for serial ports. That one handles up to 57800 and beyond
: baud.
: The driver should be on the peanuts archive (peanuts.leo.org).
: Hope that helps.
The ISASerialPorts driver works fine at speeds up to 57600bps (I don't know
where you guys are getting 58400 "baud" and 57800, I hope those are just
typos...).
There are a few steps to make sure you follow. First (and foremost), you will
also need the "PortServer" driver. This has to be installed and configured on
your system.
Second, you need to remove the configuration of all previous serial drivers
(including MUX driver -- that is assuming that you only want to use
ISASerialPorts). Make sure you use the "Configure.app" to do this, because
manually munging the configs could cause problems.
Third, if you are like me, you have some sort of crazy boot process (I have a
"boot" floppy that points the root to sd(0)a...). You have to make sure you
update the "System.config" file in the boot path (so that it isn't trying to
install the prior driver configs).
The other requirement (for high speed serial) is that you have a high-speed
serial device on your system. This requires a 16550 or better UART. (NOTE THAT
A 16450 is _not_ good enough!) Many serial ports only have 8250 UARTs and are
notoriously unreliable at speeds in excess of 9600bps. BTW, you can buy a 16550
serial card at the local computer store; usually for less than $30.
Good luck.
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From: vanhoose@gdl.msu.edu (Todd E Van Hoosear)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Random Noise from NeXTstation (DSP error?)
Date: 18 Jan 1996 20:35:13 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4dmau1$1lj1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.hardware ]
[ Author was Todd E Van Hoosear ]
[ Posted on 18 Jan 1996 20:34:21 GMT ]
A few months ago I posted a message to c.s.n.h. about some strange
happenings on my NeXTstation TurboColor. Something was causing the
speakers to utter horribly nasty random noise at unpredictable times.
I received a few helpful messages, most of which pointed to some
kind of software problem. I still haven't pinpointed the problem, so
I thought I'd throw the question out again. The problem has occured
on my system and a system downstairs from me.
THE SPECIFIC PROBLEM: On two different machines, and ONLY when I log
in (doesn't affect any other console users of the system), I encounter
at random intervals really nasty loud bursts of random noise from my
speakers.
MY SYSTEM: NeXTstation TurboColor, 16MB RAM, 1GB Hard Drive, no SCSI
or DSP-based devices attached. Running NS 3.2.
DOWNSTAIRS: NeXTstation TurboColor, 16MB RAM, 1GB External Drive, Tape
Drive & NeXT CD-ROM drive attached via SCSI. Nothing in the DSP port.
Also running NS 3.2.
MY CONFIGURATION: I don't do anything terribly fancy. I _do_ have a
neat little Workspace LaunchPaths default that prints a df to the
console window and opens up four files in Edit when I log into console.
I tried removing that defaults database entry to no avail. As far as I
can tell the noise recurs no matter what application I happen to be
working in or have open in the background. I am still investigating,
but any other thoughts or suggestions would be very welcome!
Thanks,
- Todd
>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 95 22:06:52 +0100
>From: Henning Heinze >To: vanhoose@gdl.msu.edu
>Subject: Re: Random Noise from NeXTstation (DSP error?)
>Sometime you get something weird.
>I got a Program called WatchSwap and suddenly I had most horrible
>noises on my computer (but only sometimes). Like an old
>unoiled crank shaft trYing coming back to life.
>It was part of the pvrogramm - which I realized only o after
>serveral tries to find out the sorce.
>My be you have something similar?
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: NeXT printer prints black page
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DLE6nA.oyw@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 19:40:22 GMT
References: <4dkgfr$jus@news.ualr.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4dkgfr$jus@news.ualr.edu>, Wei Li <wxli@harpy.ualr.edu> wrote:
>I need help on a problem that I have experienced in the last
>several month after I upgraded to NS 3.0 from NS 2.1. The
>printer frequently prints out a page of black ink. The
>immediate reprint of the same document normally works just
>fine. I remember that my printer used to (NS 2.1 ) print
>blank pages, but not like right now with a page full of
>black ink. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
I saw this running WordPerfect under 3.0. I upgraded WP and NS (to 3.2) at
the same time and the problem went away.
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From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Subject: Re: Language translators
Message-ID: <DLCED1.12B@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Keywords: Intex, OOCNS'95
Sender: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel)
Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member)
References: <4dhhdt$lm1@news.its.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 20:31:49 GMT
In article <4dhhdt$lm1@news.its.com> chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) writes:
> ggrant@eudoxos.math.upenn.edu (Gregory Grant) wrote:
> > Does anybody know of any Italian/English language translator for
NeXTstep?
> > Hopefully something like those cool devices they have for French and
> > Spanish that translate sentences. I know these exist for PCs and
Macs.
>
> Natural Language Processing is one of the great unsolved areas of AI.
Sure,
> there exist programs that can translate simple sentences right some of
the
> time, but I am not aware of anything that can handle real-world
technical
> documents or idiomatic sentences correctly.
>
Yeap, translating is no fun.
Nevertheless there are quite interesting tools that could help somehow.
There was a demo of a System called Intex which they gave at the OOCNS'95
conference in Grenoble. I use finite-state-transducers and a big gramar
dictionary for French to parse and index text on the fly.
The demo ran on an old NeXTstation amazingly fast.
The person said that there are dictionaries for different languages in the
works (the French is under development since 10 years with a staff of
apporx 100 people !)
He also pointed out that there will be a release anytime soon of the
system with at least the French dictionary. He also suggested that there
are some possibilities in letting the system perform some
"semi-translation" work.
Try contacting Max Silberztein <silberz@ladl.jussieu.fr>...he gave the
demo...
... and get a human for the translation work :-)
Aloha
Tomi
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From: asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Netscape for NeXT?
Date: 18 Jan 1996 20:10:37 GMT
Organization: International Turnkey Systems
Message-ID: <4dm9ft$oas@info.itsq8.com>
References: <DL401r.Gzq@utcc.utoronto.ca>
> I think if enough people show interest the company might port to NeXT.
Send
> them mail if you can.
>
> kwasi
People & I nagged whan I was using SCO and nothing happened.
I switched to UnixWare and repeated the same story..nothing happened.
Finally I got a Linux box :)
From: vanhoose@gdl.msu.edu (Todd E Van Hoosear)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unix "cut" command for NeXT?
Date: 18 Jan 1996 20:37:19 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4dmb1v$1lj1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <4crie0$leq@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <4diqmm$h5n@papoose.quick.com>
On 17 Jan 1996 07:39:50 -0500, James E. Quick (jq@papoose.quick.com) wrote:
: In article <4crie0$leq@msunews.cl.msu.edu>,
: Todd E Van Hoosear <vanhoose@gdl.msu.edu> wrote:
: >Anyone know how I can get hold of source/binaries for the standard Unix
: >cut command for the NeXT (black 3.2)?
: A version of the standard cut and paste utilities can be found
: in the gnu textutils distribution. You can get this from either
: prep.ai.mit.edu or any of its mirror sites around the world.
Thanks for everyone's help on this, as well as your suggestions on
alternatives to the cut command, such as one useful variation of an awk
statement that does the same thing.
- Todd
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From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Greedy App behavior
Date: 19 Jan 1996 02:24:25 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Message-ID: <4dmvcp$jap@news.tamu.edu>
I just downloaded the demo of SuperDraw, which looks fine, but it is
now greedily launching itself every time I try to open a gif or jpeg
file. What's the easiest way to fix things so that OmniImage gets the
nod as default app for files with those suffixes?
(BTW, this is for 3.2 on Intel.)
Thanks.
--
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-Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!-
From: Magicman <aludgate@sfu.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT software archives?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 17:58:53 -0800
Organization: Simon Fraser University
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960118175627.27918A-100000@fraser>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I've been out of the NeXT arena for a bit, and I seem to have lost a
bunch of nifty NeXT apps. I was searching the web for NeXT software
repositories, but couldn't seem to find any.
Does anyone have a good list of ftp/www/gopher links to NeXT shareware?
'till next time,
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From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next Mail problem
Date: 19 Jan 1996 02:48:08 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4dn0p8$8mv@news1.ucsd.edu>
I use Next Mail on a 21" screen and would like to make the default
size of the Compose window larger. I can read the default position and size
of the window in dread, and these change when I move or stretch the window,
but I cannot understand which coordinates do what: they seem to change more
or less randomly. Further, when I quit mail the original default Compose
window always comes back.
I would be very grateful if someone could instruct me as to how to
change the default size and position of the window!
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passim@helium.ucsd.edu
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: dwrite to enable Read Receipt interception
Date: 19 Jan 1996 00:39:58 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-20.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4dmp8u$864@usc.edu>
References: <4dlr51$1ma@news.it.gvsu.edu>
In <4dlr51$1ma@news.it.gvsu.edu> Bill Bereza wrote:
>
> A while ago someone posted a dwrite for Mail.app 3.3 that
would enable
> a window that would pop up whenever you read mail from
someone who asked
> for a read receipt. In a recent attempt to find a problem I
was having
> with Mail, I removed all of my Mail defaults entries. Now
I've forgotten
> what that one default was to set the Read Receipt
interception.
dwrite Mail ReadReceiptOption X
where X is 'yes' 'no' or 'ask'
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From: scratch@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley)
Subject: Re: Inserting multiple eps file in TeX using InstantTeX
Message-ID: <scratch.822005645@arcturus.sce.carleton.ca>
Sender: news@cunews.carleton.ca (News Administrator)
Organization: Carleton University
References: <4d6t6m$885@apopi.u-strasbg.fr>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 22:54:05 GMT
Denis GESBERT writes:
>Hi,
>I would like to know how I can insert more than one file in a TeX file using InstantTeX. I'm currently using the 3.1 version for Intel processor (available on Oregon State server), that give me some "TeXErrors" when I try to add a second image to a file...
For my latex document, I think I had the same trouble, and had to
mess with the top of my latex file. I think that I added 'epsf'
to my \documentstyle line and perhaps removed something else elsewhere.
Anyways, my top line is now
\documentstyle[12pt,epsf]{article}
Hope this helps,
Craig
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From: Paul Heffernan <phef@cedar.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Greedy App behavior
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 08:26:40 +0000
Organization: Cedar Systems
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Jeg8YAAAX1$wEwxC@cedar.co.uk>
References: <4dmvcp$jap@news.tamu.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
In article <4dmvcp$jap@news.tamu.edu>, Colin Allen
<colin@snaefell.tamu.edu> writes
>I just downloaded the demo of SuperDraw, which looks fine, but it is
>now greedily launching itself every time I try to open a gif or jpeg
>file. What's the easiest way to fix things so that OmniImage gets the
>nod as default app for files with those suffixes?
>
>(BTW, this is for 3.2 on Intel.)
>
>Thanks.
Select a file in the workspace browser and bring up the inspector under
the tools menu. Choose Tools from the popup, and you can select the app
that will be launched when double clicking documents with that
extension.
Regards,
Paul.
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From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MOD Player for NeXT
Date: 19 Jan 1996 05:24:42 GMT
Organization: a black NeXT
Message-ID: <4dn9uq$6d8@news.vanderbilt.edu>
References: <bkmoore.821740713@rigel.oac.uci.edu> <DL8wCw.nw9@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
: In article <bkmoore.821740713@rigel.oac.uci.edu>,
: Brian Moore <bkmoore@rigel.oac.uci.edu> wrote:
: >Has anyone found a MOD music player for NeXT? I've been looking
: >all over but have yet to find one.
: >
: There are two that I know of. Paula.app and ModPlayer.app. I think I found
: them both on ftp.cs.orst.edu.
EditSound works too (44KHz).
Cat.
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From: Andy Robinson <Andy@hps1.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Daily Planner Software?
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 09:06:39 GMT
Organization: High Performance Sports Ltd.
Message-ID: <34754724wnr@hps1.demon.co.uk>
References: <4dku3p$3u6@news.petrel.ch>
In article: <4dku3p$3u6@news.petrel.ch> jacques.garbi@colombus.ch (Jacques Garbi) writes:
> What drivers are actually available to connect thos DPA's to NeXTSTEP
> Intel machines ? What's your best PDA ?
>
Far and away the most popular PDA in the UK is a Psion Series 3a. There is a company
(Czech-based, I think) that makes a package to link it to a Next - and (I presume) gives
you some sort of database at the Next end to replicate it with
- you can find this in ftp.cs.orst.edu. Sorry I can't remember the name.
--
Andy Robinson
From: lin@lorien.umd.edu (Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs 4.12 for NeXT
Date: 19 Jan 1996 09:21:28 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <4dnnqo$4gd@hecate.umd.edu>
After installation of Emacs 4.12 for NeXT, I can consistently crash it with
these steps :
1) emacs ( don't even need a filename for argument )
2) split screent horizontally
3) Go to lower half of the screen ( the same buffer )
4) Ctrl-X Ctrl-F and type in a file name with a '.'
Has anyone run into similar problem ? It always crash when I type that '.'
and give this error message :
fatal error (10). Bus error
Any idea ?
From: Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs 4.12 for NeXT
Date: 19 Jan 1996 15:07:24 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <4doc3c$bhf@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <4dnnqo$4gd@hecate.umd.edu>
In <4dnnqo$4gd@hecate.umd.edu> Lin wrote:
> After installation of Emacs 4.12 for NeXT, I can consistently crash it
with
> these steps :
Probably it is generally more effective to mail such problems to me or to
the emacs-for-ns-users@lists.princeton.edu mailing list.
> 1) emacs ( don't even need a filename for argument )
>
> 2) split screent horizontally
>
> 3) Go to lower half of the screen ( the same buffer )
In emacs lingo split-screen-horizontally creates a left and right, not an
upper and a lower window. I take it you meant split-screen-vertically ?
> 4) Ctrl-X Ctrl-F and type in a file name with a '.'
I just tried this (both ways) and it seems to work fine, so this _may_ be a
local problem. Can anybody else reproduce this ? Where did you get the
binary from ? Can you run emacs under gdb and give me a backtrace from
where it crashes ?
Carl Edman
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT printer prints black page
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 10:39:14 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960119103732.1556I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4dkgfr$jus@news.ualr.edu> <DLE6nA.oyw@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
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In-Reply-To: <DLE6nA.oyw@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, David Evans wrote:
>
> I saw this running WordPerfect under 3.0. I upgraded WP and NS (to 3.2) at
> the same time and the problem went away.
of course, upgrading WP these days is impossible, as it is claimed that
WP for NS master disks are gone.
I never saw this with WP and NS, but that doesn't mean much...
TjL
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Has someone compiled GNU fileutils-3.12 for NS m68k?
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 10:41:43 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960119104023.1556J-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Which one are the fileutils?
I compiled them not too long ago and compiled them, but I also got some
others at the same time, so I don't remember.
Send me a list via email of the commands you are looking for.
TjL
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Allegheny College, Meadville, PA
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT software archives?
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 10:47:15 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960119104309.1556K-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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The basic one is peanuts.leo.org (aka www2.informatik.uni-muenchen.de if
you can use peanuts.leo.org, as I cannot)
check the /pub/comp/platforms/next folder
There are mirrors (the one in the USA has been down for some time again)
which you might want to use.
The other site is ftp.cs.orst, in the /pub/next folder
Those two together have all the stuff as far as shareware/freeware/etc
TjL
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Dr. Robert Cupper, Department of Computer Science,
Allegheny College, Meadville, PA
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Next Mail problem
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 10:49:26 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960119104802.1556L-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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In-Reply-To: <4dn0p8$8mv@news1.ucsd.edu>
On 19 Jan 1996, Harmon Craig wrote:
> I use Next Mail on a 21" screen and would like to make the default
> size of the Compose window larger. I can read the default position and size
> of the window in dread, and these change when I move or stretch the window,
> but I cannot understand which coordinates do what: they seem to change more
> or less randomly. Further, when I quit mail the original default Compose
> window always comes back.
>
> I would be very grateful if someone could instruct me as to how to
> change the default size and position of the window!
> --
> H. Craig
> passim@helium.ucsd.edu
Hmm... didn't the size and location used to be tied in with the size and
location of the Active.mbox window? That seems to be my recollection,
but I could be mistaken (it was also on m68k 3.2, don't know if that matters)
TjL
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"Everything is easy when you know what you are doing"
Dr. Robert Cupper, Department of Computer Science,
Allegheny College, Meadville, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: senip@j51.com (Greg Stritmater)
Subject: Virtspace demo (intel)
Organization: TZ-Link Internet: Our System Can Kick Your System's Ass
Message-ID: <DLFqx4.CMo@news2.new-york.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 15:55:51 GMT
Can someone point me out a site that I can get the demo of
VirtSpace for NSFiP? I found the Motorola ver. on ftp.funet.fi and orst,
but no intel. Also, is there another (possibly free?) virtual desktop
manager availible for NS? All I really need is the ability to switch to
another desktop (ala fvwm) Thanks for any info.
Greg Stritmater
senip@j51.com
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From: smbakh@milind (Milind Bakhle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unix "cut" command for NeXT?
Date: 19 Jan 1996 17:28:11 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Message-ID: <4dokbb$gfi@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
References: <4crie0$leq@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <4diqmm$h5n@papoose.quick.com> <4dmb1v$1lj1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Todd E Van Hoosear (vanhoose@gdl.msu.edu) wrote:
: Thanks for everyone's help on this, as well as your suggestions on
: alternatives to the cut command, such as one useful variation of an awk
: statement that does the same thing.
Could you please post this "variation of an awk statement"
Email would be fine too.
Thank you.
--
Milind A. Bakhle
mabakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Satan 1.1.1 and NeXTSTEP
Date: 18 Jan 1996 17:35:01 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4dm0c5$js9@news.its.com>
References: <4djq34$1e7@news.petrel.ch>
jacques.garbi@colombus.ch (Jacques Garbi) wrote:
> Did anyone succeeded in compiling Satan 1.1.1 for NS 3.3 Intel ?
> How ? Is there an already compiled package somewhere ?
You can get Satan to build under NEXTSTEP, but it is more trouble than it's
worth. Go find a Sun and build it under Solaris; it's a lot easier.
I really hope no one makes a precompiled version available (or is silly
enough to use an anonymously available version if one did exist). Satan is
intended to detect and report on security vulnerabilities across your local
network. It would be completely trivial to make that precompiled version
send a copy of that report somewhere in an almost undetectable fashion.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
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CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT printer prints black page
Date: 19 Jan 1996 12:53:01 -0700
Organization: A Big Black Cube
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4dosqt$1pg@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <4dkgfr$jus@news.ualr.edu> <DLE6nA.oyw@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <Pine.NXT.3.91.960119103732.1556I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, David Evans wrote:
>
> >
> > I saw this running WordPerfect under 3.0. I upgraded WP and NS (to
3.2) at
> > the same time and the problem went away.
>
> of course, upgrading WP these days is impossible, as it is claimed that
> WP for NS master disks are gone.
>
> I never saw this with WP and NS, but that doesn't mean much...
'Tis true, I called up WP/Novell and they said they were gone. I think
it is a tad irresponsible, after all, how much storage could it take?
Three disks? Why throw it away?
--
Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS
Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
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From: rupert@misha.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Greedy App behavior
Date: 19 Jan 1996 20:32:33 GMT
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Message-ID: <4dov51$3dm@delta.misha.net>
References: <4dmvcp$jap@news.tamu.edu>
In <4dmvcp$jap@news.tamu.edu> Colin Allen wrote:
I just downloaded the demo of SuperDraw, which looks fine, but it is
now greedily launching itself every time I try to open a gif or jpeg
file. What's the easiest way to fix things so that OmniImage gets the
nod as default app for files with those suffixes?
(BTW, this is for 3.2 on Intel.)
Colin -
All you need do is highlight an GIF, TIFF, etc. icon in the Workspace
Manager, and then open the Inspector Panel for Tools. Two ways to do that:
From the menu, it is Workspace-> Tools-> Inspector. From the keyboard it is
<Commnad + 3>. Once you have this inspector panel up, it will tell you what
tools are available to launch the highlighted file type [icon]. You may
scroll through any of the choices, highlight one, and then choose to make it
the default app to launch that type of file [there's a button in the Tools
Panel that does this. Currently, SuperDraw is the deafault app for your
GIF's. Just change it to any other app that can open GIF's.
Hope that helps.
--
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<rupert@misha.net> / NeXTmail ~ MIME encouraged
Direktor
noir
815.963.6996 vox
815.963.6999 fax
From: zachary@willis.cis.uab.edu (John Zachary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: NS3.3 for sale
Date: 19 Jan 1996 15:40:09 -0600
Organization: Dept of CIS, Univ. of Al at Birmingham
Message-ID: <4dp33p$mp2@dave.cis.uab.edu>
I would like to sell the following:
NS 3.3 Academic Bundle (includes Developer Tools and EOF)
(I can provide the EIDE drivers and Stealth64 drivers)
_Developing_NeXTstep_Applications_ by Backlin
_NeXTStep_Development_Tools_and_Techniques_
Make offer. Respond to zachary@cis.uab.edu
-John
--
John M. Zachary
<A HREF="http://www.cis.uab.edu/info/grads/jmz/be.html">Unofficial Be Page</A>
From: esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu (Eskandar Ensafi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for: inews
Date: 19 Jan 1996 21:51:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <4dp3om$l1l@delphi.cs.ucla.edu>
Hi,
I want to run "trn" version 3.6 on a NEXTSTEP/Intel system, and I need
"inews" for NNTP. What's the latest version of "inews" that's known to
compile and run under NEXTSTEP 3.3? Where can I get it?
Thanks! If possible, please reply by e-mail.
- Eskandar
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Department of Biomathematics esky@cs.ucla.edu (ASCII, MIME, NeXT)
School of Medicine http://www.cs.ucla.edu/csd-lanai/fweb/esky
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From: gq (G. Quinonez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Kermit script and removing dialing sound
Date: 19 Jan 1996 22:34:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <4dp69d$1fp4@saba.info.ucla.edu>
I was wondering if there is a way to remove or lower the volume on my modem
on dialing in to my internet provider. I am using the latest version of
kermit, and for some reason when I put in the script to lower the volume, it
doesnt recognize the sequence.
i am using a USRobotics 28.8 modem.
any help is appreciated.
G Quinonez
___________________________________________________
G. Quinonez NeXTStep 3.3 FIP
"I'm not sure we understand everything
we know about this."
Charles M. Abernathy, Sr.
____________________________________________________
NeXTMail/MIME: quinonez@ucla.edu (preferred)
Plain text only: gquinonez@medstudent.medsch.ucla.edu
MIME & Plain text: gquinonez@mem.po.com
____________________________________________________
From: rao@sysmod.egr.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,sci.math.symbolic
Subject: How to read SPARC floppies on a Nextstation?
Date: 20 Jan 1996 01:58:11 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Message-ID: <4dpi7j$19g@masala.cc.uh.edu>
How do I read a SUN sparc formatted floppy (3.5in) on a Nextstation Turbo?
When I insert the floppy, the machine ejects the disk because it does not
recognize it. I believe there are some tar.Z files on this disk that I
could deal with if only I could get then off the floppy.
Wolfram research has sent me the wrong media and I am trying to see if I
can read the disks before the alternate media arrives.
Thanks.
--
Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu
Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535
University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503
Houston, TX 77204-4792
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: Greedy App behavior
Message-ID: <DLF8yG.E0@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <4dmvcp$jap@news.tamu.edu>
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 09:27:52 GMT
In article <4dmvcp$jap@news.tamu.edu> colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin
Allen) writes:
> I just downloaded the demo of SuperDraw, which looks fine, but it
> is now greedily launching itself every time I try to open a gif or
> jpeg file. What's the easiest way to fix things so that OmniImage
> gets the nod as default app for files with those suffixes?
Select a jpeg file in File Viewer, open the Tools Inspector (Command
3) and select the application you want to handle jpegs. Click on 'Set
default'. Repeat the same operation with a gif file.
Michael
--
Michael Pieper, Blcherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen,
Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 543915
Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
From: gq (G. Quinonez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: kermit and volume control
Date: 20 Jan 1996 19:15:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <4drf0k$c0a@saba.info.ucla.edu>
Can anyone tell me how I can lower or turn off the volume of my modem using
kermit. I am using a USR 28.8 internal with the latest version of kermit
and the latest version of ppp.
Thank you
gerry
quinonez@ucla.edu (NeXTMail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=)
Subject: Re: Has someone compiled GNU fileutils-3.12 for NS m68k?
References: <4dlahh$cne@usc.edu>
Organization: German NeXT User Group, Oldenburg.
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 08:48:52 GMT
Message-ID: <1996Jan20.084852.20700@proximus.north.de>
In article <4dlahh$cne@usc.edu>,
Matthew N. Reichman <reichman@scf.usc.edu> wrote:
> And would be willing the NeXTMAIL it to me with the man pages?
To compile, just type:
1.) CC='cc -posix' ./configure
2.) make
3.) make install
You will get those programs:
/usr/local/bin/chgrp
/usr/local/bin/chown
/usr/local/bin/chmod
/usr/local/bin/cp
/usr/local/bin/dd
/usr/local/bin/du
/usr/local/bin/install
/usr/local/bin/ln
/usr/local/bin/dir
/usr/local/bin/vdir
/usr/local/bin/ls
/usr/local/bin/mkdir
/usr/local/bin/mkfifo
/usr/local/bin/mknod
/usr/local/bin/mv
/usr/local/bin/rm
/usr/local/bin/rmdir
/usr/local/bin/sync
/usr/local/bin/touch
/usr/local/bin/df
/usr/local/man/man1/chgrp.1
/usr/local/man/man1/chown.1
/usr/local/man/man1/chmod.1
/usr/local/man/man1/cp.1
/usr/local/man/man1/dd.1
/usr/local/man/man1/df.1
/usr/local/man/man1/du.1
/usr/local/man/man1/install.1
/usr/local/man/man1/ln.1
/usr/local/man/man1/ls.1
/usr/local/man/man1/mkdir.1
/usr/local/man/man1/mkfifo.1
/usr/local/man/man1/mknod.1
/usr/local/man/man1/mv.1
/usr/local/man/####################################################################
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From: mustreboot@aol.com (MustReboot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can Someone with a NeXT assist
Date: 21 Jan 1996 06:54:41 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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Reply-To: mustreboot@aol.com (MustReboot)
I don't have a NeXt I only have a mac
If you could can you convert these to a mac format like eps or mac tiff or
gif and send it to me or post them at an ftp site, I'll go get them.
I have had absolutely no luck in converting them. I would really really
appreciate it.
The following files are located in the FTP sites, Peanuts and CS.ORST.EDU
in the graphics/icons or misc/icons directory.
DirIcons.tar.z
Sp_Icons.tar.z
Icons.tiff.tar.z
These are an extensive collection of the NeXtstep Icons from the black
platform. Or if you have an extensive collection of NeXTstep Icons this
also would work. The ones posted in mac sites are awful, pixelated, low
res images, they look like some one scanned them with a fax machine and do
no justice the elegance of NeXTstep.
If you can send them to me or post them on an FTP site I would come get
them.
Just tell me where.
Again thanks for all you help if you could help, they relativly small
files it would take anyone all of 10 mins,
but I would really appreciate it.
Mike McKinney
From: Edwin TAM <edwintam@hkstar.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: PPP-2.2 client to NT ppp server ?
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 16:07:47 +0800
Organization: Unorganized
Message-ID: <3101F453.E7E@hkstar.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,
I just installed the NeXT-PPP-2.2 and got successfully connected to all
of my ISP providing UNIX style logins. However, I am not able to connect
to a Windows/NT ppp server which is set to use Authentiation (i.e.
without any UNIX like login prompts).
Both the MacPPP and Windows95 client connect perfectly on that NT
server, but not the NeXT-PPP.
I read the ReadME, FAQ but nothing is mention against a Win/NT server.
I suppose there is a twist somewhere, could anybody point me the light ?
Many thanks,
Edwin
--
#include <stddisclaimer.h>
#ifdef 0
I am speaking for myself and myself only, my company or my Nation
might not necessary agree with what I said but "I don't give a damn!"
This is my rights.
#endif
From: katz@cs.millersv.edu (Elizabeth Katz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Kermit script and removing dialing sound
Date: 21 Jan 1996 17:04:24 GMT
Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <4dtrmo$4g@jake.esu.edu>
References: <4dp69d$1fp4@saba.info.ucla.edu>
G. Quinonez (quinonez@ucla.edu) wrote:
> I was wondering if there is a way to remove or lower the
> volume on my modem on dialing in to my internet provider.
> I am using the latest version of kermit, and for some reason
> when I put in the script to lower the volume, it doesn't
> recognize the sequence.
> i am using a USRobotics 28.8 modem.
Your mileage may vary, but ...
I lowered the speaker volume on my modem (ZyXEL U-1496E) using
PrintManager (NextApps/PrintManager.app). I used the following steps:
- open PrintManager
- choose FaxModems from the menu
- click on the Modify button at the top
- click on Fax Options near the bottom
- lower the speaker volume with the slider
- click OK to back out of everything
This is also where I set the modem's phone number.
I'm using NEXTSTEP 3.2/Motorola if that makes a difference.
And I'm using kermit.
Beth Katz
katz@cs.millersv.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: How to read SPARC floppies on a Nextstation?
Message-ID: <1996Jan21.115145.1240@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4dpi7j$19g@masala.cc.uh.edu>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 11:51:45 GMT
In article <4dpi7j$19g@masala.cc.uh.edu> rao@sysmod.egr.uh.edu (Dr.
Jagannatha Rao) writes:
>
> How do I read a SUN sparc formatted floppy (3.5in) on a Nextstation
> Turbo?
>
> When I insert the floppy, the machine ejects the disk because it
> does not recognize it. I believe there are some tar.Z files on
> this disk that I could deal with if only I could get then off
> the floppy.
>
>
> Wolfram research has sent me the wrong media and I am trying to
> see if I can read the disks before the alternate media arrives.
>
If the disk is really "formatted" ie. there is a filesystem on her there
is no chance. But if it consists just of a raw 'tar' container fire up
'tar' and wait for a panel that asks for the floppy to be inserted. If
you were lucky it'll just work fine.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp, MIME, NeXTmail # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Boris Hartenstein <i452@stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [HELP] multimedia quality [HELP]
Date: 21 Jan 1996 22:14:04 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Message-ID: <4dudrc$882@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
My name is Boris Hartenstein. I'm a student at
the Fachhochschule Wuerzburg, Germany.
Now I'm working on my dissertation to get the
informatics diploma.
I want to find out what quality in multimedia is
and how I can get it.
First I have to figure out the characteristics of
quality in multimedia software.
You can help me!
1. Number the points in order of theire importance
e.g. nr. 1 means: it's the most important feature.
nr. 2 means: it's second important and so on
2. and mail the form back to me
--------
APPEARANCE
.. animations
... audio
... graphics
... text
... video
... corporate identity handicaps
TECHNICAL FEATURES
.. easy installation/deinstallation
... running on different platforms
... application is bug-free
USABILITY
.. help-functions available
... clear structure
... short training periods
... navigation-helps available
... crossreferences available
ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONS
.. printer support
... expert functions (e.g. shortcuts)
... search functions
... export of data to other programs
... entertainment value
... modem connection (e.g. updating or buying)
-------
Thank you for your help.
If you have any additional remarks or ideas I'll be
pleased to read them.
Boris Hartenstein
Wuerzburg, Germany
i452@stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de or
hartenstein@t-online.de
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: New Version (0.6) of WebMapper
Date: 21 Jan 1996 22:39:40 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <4dufbc$bdg@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
Thanks to Steve Hayman, a bug has been fixed in WebMapper.
You can download the latest version (0.6 January 21, 1996)
from:
http://libra.caup.umich.edu/Software/
>--
>Wassim M. Jabi
>Doctoral Program in Architecture
>University of Michigan
>2000 Bonisteel Blvd
>Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
>wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
>http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: New Version (0.6) of WebMapper
Date: 21 Jan 1996 22:48:33 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <4dufs1$bdg@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
One more thing: You should now be able to use any Web browser to
download the software. The directory contains the following:
WebMapper.README.rtf
WebMapper.pkg.0.6.tar.gz (Quad-Binary ~ 3MBytes)
WebMapper.app.0.6.N.tar.gz (Motorola binary ~500KBytes)
WebMapper.app.0.6.I.tar.gz (Intel binary ~500KBytes)
WebMapper.app.0.6.H.tar.gz (HP-PA binary ~500KBytes)
WebMapper.app.0.6.S.tar.gz (SPARC binary ~500KBytes)
The location is: http://libra.caup.umich.edu/Software/
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
Date: 21 Jan 1996 23:32:46 GMT
From: Boris Hartenstein <i452@stio1.fh-wuerzburg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Message-ID: <cancel.4dudrc$882@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Control: cancel <4dudrc$882@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
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EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by jem@xpat.postech.ac.kr.
See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19960121.16 for further details
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Subject: Sound in SoftPC
Message-ID: <DLK4n3.34p@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 00:42:38 GMT
Hi,
Has anyone succeeded in playing sound (e.g. .wav file) in SoftPC?
Thanks.
---
Hiroshi TOMARU hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (NeXTMail OK)
From: steved@bankone.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Drag'n'drop in Web browsers on other platforms?
Date: 21 Jan 1996 15:59:53 GMT
Organization: Bank One
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4dtntp$3kf@ec.bankone.com>
A question: NetSurfer and OmniWeb (I think) allow me to drag'n'drop images and
whole html pages (complete with graphics). Do browsers on other platforms
allow this?
I use Netscape on Mac, HPUX and Win95, but only casually (I need SSL to get to
a few places). I've never been able to do the same thing.
Being able to drag'n'drop makes documentation and other chores really easy.
Thanks,
Steve
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 22 Jan 1996 05:15:11 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4dv6gv$7oi@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 188+ ISV company pages
- 433+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
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Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
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ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
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[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
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Written by:
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Additions from:
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Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: gq (G. Quinonez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOS exe file down load cannot be saved to disk formatted with NSFIP 3.3
Date: 22 Jan 1996 06:44:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <4dvbo5$p36@saba.info.ucla.edu>
Hello everyone.
Ive been getting a message that reads:
File error for /diamond/gtw.exe: Invalid argument
Diamond is the name of the DOS formatted disk under NSFIP. I formatted this
diskette with the workspace manager using initialize and named it Diamond.
The file that I downloaded(using OmniWEB beta 2) from the net was a DOS
executable file called GTW.EXE and initially opens as ascii file using
Edit.app. Then I try to use "save as" from the Edit menu and try to save
it to the diskette and I get the message as above.
Then, I saved the file to the hard drive, and tried to drag it to the DOS
diskette and I got the Processes panel and said again...
File error for /diamond/gtw.exe: Invalid argument
Then STOP and Proceed buttons appear. I choose stop of course.
Can anyone show me the correct way to download a DOS or Mac file in
NeXTStep3.3 FIP and save it to a respectively formatted disk under NeXT.
Thanks to whoever responds.
Please email to my address quinonez@ucla.edu
====================================================
G. Quinonez NeXTStep 3.3 FIP
__ "I'm not sure we understand everything
/\__/\ we know about this."
\/__\/ Charles M. Abernathy, Sr.
====================================================
NeXTMail/MIME: quinonez@ucla.edu (preferred)
Plain text only: gquinonez@medstudent.medsch.ucla.edu
MIME & Plain text: gquinonez@mem.po.com
====================================================
From: bdm@xp.psych.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Perlman's |STAT for NSFIP
Date: 21 Jan 1996 22:36:55 GMT
Organization: New York University
Message-ID: <4duf67$n7@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
I need to compile Perlman's |STAT (a collection of simple command-line statistical/
data manipulation routines) for NSFIP. If anyone has i) compiled binaries
for NSFIP or ii) C source code for the package I'd appreciate hearing from you.
Brian McElree
NYU
bdm@xp.psych.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: Sound in SoftPC
Message-ID: <DLKxo9.20r@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <DLK4n3.34p@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:09:44 GMT
In article <DLK4n3.34p@papageno.rim.or.jp> hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp
(Hiroshi TOMARU) writes:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone succeeded in playing sound (e.g. .wav file) in SoftPC?
>
I have!
- but then prehaps I don't count 'cause I modified the source to do it!
Seriously, 4.0 can do limited sound through the beep driver. This is OK
for DOS alert noises, but its less than recomeneded for real sounds.
4.1 has an unsupported Windows sound driver. It drives SoundKit, so
should run on any sound card, but it is only in Windows. It is not a
formal part of the 4.1 release, as it has a few features missing, and
didn't go through our formal test procedure. However it works OK for a
lot of things (though a very fast CD drive is recomened if you want to
try any big multimedia stuff).
It's not installed by default (cause its unofficial), but I put a copy
of the necessary drivers in a directory called Goodies on the CD. These
should be installed from the Windows control panel. (these DO NOT WORK
ON OLDER REEASES, so don't even try).
Hope they work OK for you...
Ian
P.S. check out the hdf inspector in Goodies too!
$
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Proxy software? - http, ftp, news, irc can be done!
Message-ID: <1996Jan22.135307.1751@ittpub>
From: jurgen@ittpub.nl (Jurgen Hildebrand)
Date: 22 Jan 96 13:53:07 WET
References: <4dkkgc$qi3@news.voicenet.com> <1996Jan18.084033.6228@seer.demon.co.uk>
Distribution: world
In <1996Jan18.084033.6228@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch wrote:
> In article <4dkkgc$qi3@news.voicenet.com> dwright1@omni.voicenet.com
> (Darren Wright) writes:
> > Can this be done?
> >
> > INTERNET -------- NeXT --------- PC running windows 95
> >
> > I've got 1 IP for the NeXT box...the Pc has a forged IP.
>
> Yes, given the right software for Win95.
>
> > Can I run a proxy server software on the NeXT so the PC can access HTTP
> pages
> > on the internet?
>
> You need a caching Web server. CERN does this, as does Harvester. There
> are binary installations of both these; for CERN on the main distribution
> site, and for Harvester on ftp.cs.orst.edu.
>
>
Dear Darren Wright
The CERN solution is a good one! but if you want: ftp,news,irc and gopher
proxies as well ... you might think about also porting the TIS firewall (at
http://www.tis.com). With TIS you're able to share one SLIP/PPP account
between multiple machines without the need of having more than one valid IP
address.
I'm happy to answer your questions about TIS and NEXTSTEP.
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
| email: jurgen@ittpub.nl (Jurgen Hildebrand)
| work phone: +31(0)20-5676697 @ ITT Publitec, Amsterdam
+--------------------------------------------------------------+
From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Children's programs?
Date: 22 Jan 1996 13:37:28 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4e03uo$l9i@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
Originator: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU
Anyone know of any programs that run on black hardware (and
monochrome) that are good for children (ages 4, 6), other
than the drawing packages?
Thanks.
Tim
--
Timothy Van Zandt
Department of Economics Email: tvz@princeton.edu
Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050
Princeton, NJ 08544 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (Guenther Bauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fax problem
Date: 22 Jan 1996 13:58:10 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration
Message-ID: <4e055i$56k@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at>
Hi,
I am running NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a HP PA RISC workstation. I am using a US
Robotics Sportster 28,800 Fax Modem, and it just works fine with one
exception: I refuses to go into fax mode.
I have installed the following fax driver: JollysClass2_Fax.0.70.b
However, if I try to start faxing, my modem doesn't even dial,
although it tries to send something away (recognizeable if you look on
the LEDs).
After some minutes I get the following information:
'There is no fax modem connected to the serial port. Check the cables
and fax modem and try again.'
However my modem just works fine for internet purposes (so it is
pressumably connected to the serial port in a correct manner).
There is also one thing: After an unsuccessful fax try, my modem seems
to have troubles if I instantly try to go into the internet. What
actually happens is, that my modem hangs suddenly up. After a reboot,
my modem works fine (internet).
Who is able to give me a hint what to do?
Thanks in advance
Guenther
h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at
or
Guenther.Bauer@giga.or.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: garyl@byc.easynet.co.uk (Caffeine Boy)
Subject: Porblem with Intel box and NS
Message-ID: <1167cc$7323.3d0@kirk.microsys.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 23:07:05 GMT
Organization: Directors Cut
We've managed to install NS 3.3 succesfully on a P100 SCSI HD machine
and have only one niggling problem. The OS will only boot up if we
type the -v option at the the initial prompt. Pressing return or
letting the prompt time out results in a black screen. This is dull.
Does anyone out there have any hints or tips?
From: cqw@cqwnext.ucdavis.edu (C.Q. Winterbottom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for compiled PGP for NS3.2 on Black HW
Date: 21 Jan 1996 00:36:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <4ds1qa$bgt@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Anyone interested in sharing a compiled binary for PGP that runs under NS
3.2 on black hardware?
Thanks,
CQW
--
Christopher Q. Winterbottom
University of California, Davis
Davis, California 95616
cqwinterbottom@ucdavis.edu
NeXT mail prefered, ascii accepted
From: Dan Nichols <dan@kypris.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Dialing into Black hardware from Windows95???
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:10:08 -0600
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Message-ID: <3103C4F0.4A9D@kypris.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Can anyone possibly help me?
I would like to be able to dial-in to my NeXT (Turbo color Station) from
Windows95.
I've setup the getty correctly (according to the manuals) and have a
28800 modem on both ends.
When I dialin, using hyperTerminal, for example, the connection is made,
but I get a bunch of garbage spit out to the Windows95 terminal and
immediate disconnect.
Can anyone tell me what to change, look at, etc. to be able to do this?
Thanks,
Dan
--
Daniel A. Nichols Voice: (214) 790-7255
2905 Lawrence St. Fax: (214) 790-2950
Irving TX 75061-6645 Email: dan@kypris.com
LP 40,45,64 NeXTMail welcome!
Web:<http://rampages.onramp.net/~dan>
From: paul@infohouse.com (Paul Guzyk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need DNS>128 for NS 3.3 Intel
Date: 22 Jan 1996 17:39:45 GMT
Organization: er
Message-ID: <paul-2201961259500001@apu.infohouse.com>
Hello, I'm an ISP running NeXTStep 3.3 intel.
The darn DNS doesn't take more than 128 domains, and we're over that limit.
(everyone who puts up a web page wants their own domain these days)
Has anyone compiled a version of DNS that handles unlimited domains?
If not, does anyone want to make some bucks doing it for me?
Paul Guzyk
InfoHouse Inc
212-228-8988
paul@infohouse.com
From: kosower@amoco.saclay.cea.fr (David A. Kosower)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.fax
Subject: HylaFax
Date: 22 Jan 1996 17:23:07 GMT
Organization: Commissariat a l'Energie Atomique (CEA), France
Message-ID: <4e0h5r$l3j@news.cea.fr>
Has anyone had any luck getting HylaFax up and running under NeXTstep?
Direct replies would be appreciated, as our news server is flaky.
--
David A. Kosower
kosower@amoco.saclay.cea.fr
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun OpenStep Beta & Colors ?
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:39:00 GMT
Organization: Institute for Language Speech and Hearing, Sheffield University
Sender: mmalcolm Crawford <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <960122183900.1188AACUO.malc@daneel>
References: <4dmlto$and@gateway.wiltel.com> <DLF86u.9n@shinto.nbg.sub.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Keywords: Gamma Correction, NEO
tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) wrote:
>
> If you take a look at all the icons...they just look really ugly,
> like images on the web, which have been created under NeXTSTEP,
> displayed via Netscape/Solaris today. They are way too dark and
> this really seems to be the famous Gamma-correction thing.
>
Hmm, I've just noticed this browsing a few of my own pages on a Sun :-(
Does anyone know what the (cause of the) problem (namely that NEXTSTEP-
generated GIFs look dreadful on other systems) is here, and, more
importantly, how to correct it?
(Email repsonses/cc's appreciated -- our newsfeed's being a tad erratic.)
Best wishes,
mmalc.
From: croehrig@sns.cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Opinions wanted for fax modems (New USR Sportster Vi?)
Date: 22 Jan 1996 19:51:01 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <4e0pr5$np1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca>
Has anyone tried the new USR Sportster Vi's ($179) under NEXTSTEP? It
supports class 2.0 Fax commands (which may or may not be distinct from
NEXTSTEP's supported "class 2" fax commands --- Zyxel says it supports class 1,
2 and 2.0 indicating that there may be a difference between 2 and 2.0).
The Vi also has voice mailbox capabilities. Has anyone tried to make use of
these under NEXTSTEP? Any idea what might be involved in writing a NEXTSTEP
interface to it?
Any other opinions for getting faxing to work under NEXTSTEP cheaply?
1. Set up my Windows box to do fax/voicemail and try and figure out how to
"Print to Fax" to it from my NeXTcube?
2. Any other cheap modems supporting Class 2 fax? I don't need data modem
capability.
--
Chris Roehrig (croehrig@House.ORG or croehrig@sns.cs.ubc.ca)
Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver
http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: "Nikos P. Pitsianis" <nikos@cs.cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Octave 1.1.1 and gnuplot
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:36:39 -0500
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Cornell U.
Message-ID: <3103F557.2DEB@cs.cornell.edu>
References: <4e0h5r$l3j@news.cea.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I need the binary (3.2 NeXT) of gnuplot that works with Octave 1.1.1.
I failed to compile gnuplot 3.5 in my cube, please forward a pointer
to a Nextstep binary.
Thanks
--
Nikos P Pitsianis email : nikos@CS.Cornell.edu
Cornell University work : (607) 255 3042
5151 Upson Hall, Dept of Comp Sc FAX : (607) 255 4428
Ithaca, NY 14853 home : (607) 277 7630
From: phaedrus@is.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MouseMagic
Date: 19 Jan 1996 17:48:16 GMT
Organization: Minnesota OnLine
Message-ID: <4dolh0$vn8@jenny.state.net>
i downloaded this package from the site listed a few days ago, but it
needs to be registered.
does anyone know if Arzana Limited is still out there
if so, how much does it cost, and is it worth the price?
if not, does someone have a liscense string that i can use?
thanks
__________________________________________________________________________
@}->-- phaedrus --<-{@
Life is a disease...sexually transmitted, and unavoidably fatal.
_______________________________________________________________-someone___
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for compiled PGP for NS3.2 on Black HW
Date: 22 Jan 1996 23:32:40 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-47.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4e16qo$j7c@usc.edu>
References: <4ds1qa$bgt@mark.ucdavis.edu>
In <4ds1qa$bgt@mark.ucdavis.edu> C.Q. Winterbottom wrote:
> Anyone interested in sharing a compiled binary for PGP that
runs under NS
> 3.2 on black hardware?
CQW - what is your correct mailing address? It seems to be
completely screwed up.
Also, you are a U.S. citizne, right? (for PGP) otherwise you
should be asking for (PGPi)...
all that stuff is quite trouble anyway.
If you are U.S. citizen, I can NeXTMAIL you binary.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: NeXT printer prints black page
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (system PRIVILEGED account)
Message-ID: <DLLvvy.DsI@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 23:28:45 GMT
References: <4dkgfr$jus@news.ualr.edu> <DLE6nA.oyw@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <Pine.NXT.3.91.960119103732.1556I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4dosqt$1pg@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4dosqt$1pg@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>,
Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> wrote:
>"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, David Evans wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I saw this running WordPerfect under 3.0. I upgraded WP and NS (to
>3.2) at
>> > the same time and the problem went away.
>>
>> of course, upgrading WP these days is impossible, as it is claimed that
>> WP for NS master disks are gone.
>>
>> I never saw this with WP and NS, but that doesn't mean much...
>
>'Tis true, I called up WP/Novell and they said they were gone. I think
>it is a tad irresponsible, after all, how much storage could it take?
>Three disks? Why throw it away?
>
What was the final release? I got 1.0.1, 10 June 1993, and then heard
nothing more. Not that I use it much...
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: charlesa@mpn.com (Charles Ashley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TCPIP in SoftPC
Date: 22 Jan 1996 23:48:47 GMT
Organization: MatriX Publishing Network
Message-ID: <4e17ov$bu7@nebula.mpn.com>
Hi -
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to get TCP/IP sessions under
SoftPC Windows sessions?
TIA,
C.
charlesa@mpn.com
From: titanide@Mlink.NET (Patrick O'Connell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Seek PC program: .WAV --> NeXT .SND
Date: 22 Jan 1996 19:09:58 -0500
Organization: Mlink Internet, Montreal, Canada
Message-ID: <4e190m$634@zinc.Mlink.NET>
Hi,
In order to better be able to send a NeXT-owning friend sound files that
I only have in .WAV format (the native format of MS Windoze). I have
tried a DOS program, hardly a brand-new one, called SOX but the .SND
files it produces don't seem to be 100% kosher -- the speed is screwed up
when my friend plays them after receiving them from me.
Any suggestions for a DOS or Windows-based program are welcome -- I'm not
fascistic about either, and am not running Windoze 95. And yes, we know
about GISO -- he has the sources but has not compiled them yet.
Thanks,
Pat O'Connell
titanide@mlink.net / titanide@micro.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Subject: Re: Proxy software?\
Message-ID: <DLLzKF.1FI@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN
References: <4dkkgc$qi3@news.voicenet.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 00:48:15 GMT
In article <4dkkgc$qi3@news.voicenet.com> dwright1@omni.voicenet.com (Darren
Wright) writes:
: Can this be done?
:
: INTERNET -------- NeXT --------- PC running windows 95
:
: I've got 1 IP for the NeXT box...the Pc has a forged IP.
:
: Can I run a proxy server software on the NeXT so the PC can access HTTP pages
: on the internet?
:
: Is there such an animal?
:
: -Darren
:
:
Try DeleGate,
ftp://etlport.etl.go.jp/pub/DeleGate/delegate*.tar.gz,
where the ``*''stands for a version number.
It can serve as a proxy server and also can give cache for http and
gopher.
You can ask questions in the mailing list:
$B!!(JJOIN: To: services@etl.go.jp
$B!!!!!!!!(JSubject: listserv subscribe delegate John Lennon
^^^^^^^^^^^^
FirstName LastName
(No Body)
$B!!(JQUIT: To: services@etl.go.jp
$B!!!!!!!!(JSubject: listserv unsubscribe delegate
Although they discuss in Japanese there, you will get answer in
English, I think.
For the compilation of delegate3.0.3.tar.gz in NEXTSTEP 3.2J,
I had to change the src/Makefile as
#if you use RESOLVY
#RESLIB = -L../resolvy -lresolvy
#RESLIBF = $(RESOLVY)
#else
#RESLIB = -lresolv
#endif
and add in src/misc.c a line
#define _POSIX_SOURCE
before the line
#include <dirent.h> .
---
Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J)
hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (NeXTMail OK)
From: seanl@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun OpenStep Beta & Colors ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 22 Jan 1996 22:22:24 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Message-ID: <4e12n0$3us@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
References: <4dmlto$and@gateway.wiltel.com> <DLF86u.9n@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <960122183900.1188AACUO.malc@daneel>
mmalcolm crawford (m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk) wrote:
>tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) wrote:
>>
>> If you take a look at all the icons...they just look really ugly,
>> like images on the web, which have been created under NeXTSTEP,
>> displayed via Netscape/Solaris today. They are way too dark and
>> this really seems to be the famous Gamma-correction thing.
>>
>Hmm, I've just noticed this browsing a few of my own pages on a Sun :-(
>Does anyone know what the (cause of the) problem (namely that NEXTSTEP-
>generated GIFs look dreadful on other systems) is here, and, more
>importantly, how to correct it?
I've noticed the same thing in reverse: namely, GIFs, TIFFs, etc. created
on Macs or Sun boxes show up positively washed out on OmniWeb or OmniImage,
etc.
Hmmm...
Sean Luke
seanl@cs.umd.edu
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MouseMagic
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 07:30:58 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Jan23.073058.22592@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4dolh0$vn8@jenny.state.net>
In article <4dolh0$vn8@jenny.state.net> phaedrus@is.com writes:
>
> i downloaded this package from the site listed a few days ago, but it
> needs to be registered.
>
> does anyone know if Arzana Limited is still out there
> if so, how much does it cost, and is it worth the price?
> if not, does someone have a liscense string that i can use?
All of the relevant instructions were in the cns.announce message a few
days ago. The price is $19.95; and you'lll get a license in the mail
later today.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
(under construction)
From: "Andrew T. Foster" <knight@arsenal.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun OpenStep Beta & Colors ?
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 02:24:00 -0600
Organization: Knight Productions, Inc.
Message-ID: <31049B20.44BA@arsenal.com>
References: <4dmlto$and@gateway.wiltel.com> <DLF86u.9n@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <960122183900.1188AACUO.malc@daneel> <4e12n0$3us@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Howdy,
It has always looked pretty poor on the transition between graphics
formats from NeXT to Windows, etc. Being that its an immense pain that
I cannot get NeXT TIFs into Photoshop without dumping them to another
format, as well as they look too dark and washed out.
Strange!
- C
/// Knight Productions, Inc.
/// Tel: (608) 251-5522
/// Fax: (608) 251-5727
/// Pager: (800) 760-5232
/// E-mail: KNIGHT@ARSENAL.COM
/// WWW: http://www.msen.com/~knight/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: TCPIP in SoftPC
Message-ID: <DLMs5A.DDx@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <4e17ov$bu7@nebula.mpn.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 11:05:33 GMT
In article <4e17ov$bu7@nebula.mpn.com> charlesa@mpn.com (Charles Ashley)
writes:
> Hi -
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to get TCP/IP sessions
under
> SoftPC Windows sessions?
>
If you're using 4.0 or later it should "just work". Winsock.dll is
provided which makes suitable calls to the host. Netscape, Mosaic,
Notes, Eudora, ftp and telnet all work fine.
4.0 has a known bug that if you specify an address numerically you must
reverse teh order of the numbers (I think - never tried it personally),
but 4.1's winsock is a completly new version which fixes this and a
number of other niggles. This bug isn't an issue if you always use names
for machines.
3.x and older don't support winsock (though I'm tempted to add it for my
own use, a release is unlikly).
Ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Malte Tancred
Subject: Re: Porblem with Intel box and NS
Message-ID: <DLMJnE.HsE@oops.se>
Sender: usenet@oops.se
Organization: OOPS art, HB
References: <1167cc$7323.3d0@kirk.microsys.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 08:02:02 GMT
In <1167cc$7323.3d0@kirk.microsys.net> Caffeine Boy wrote:
> We've managed to install NS 3.3 succesfully on a P100 SCSI HD machine
> and have only one niggling problem. The OS will only boot up if we
> type the -v option at the the initial prompt. Pressing return or
> letting the prompt time out results in a black screen. This is dull.
> Does anyone out there have any hints or tips?
>
I'm not sure if I remember this right, but we had a similar problem with an
HP PA-RISC machine. You had to press enter at the initial prompt, or the
machine wouldn't boot. I think this was fixed with the upgrade to 3.3 or
with the 3.3 patch 1. I'm not sure though. Any comments?
Regards,
Malte
PS. If you haven't got the patch I suggest you get it from NeXT ftp archive
(ftp.next.com).
--
Malte Tancred
OOPS art, HB
Member of Swedish Object Guild
malte@oops.se NeXTMail, Mime welcome
From: Kir Royale Limited <kiroyale@kiroyale.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: UK NeXT work
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 12:40:15 GMT
Organization: Kir Royale Limited
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <646001833wnr@kiroyale.demon.co.uk>
If you are interested in working in the UK on either a contract or a
permanent basis then we *must* talk.
I am looking for a large number of NeXTSTEP developers for four
separate clients based in and around central London.
All candidates must have at least 18 months NeXT experience.
I am also looking for between 8 and 10 Analysts to work in the UK
travelling and implementing systems throughout Europe.
Contact:
Duncan Campling
All resumes/messages in plain text or uuencoded Word 6 formats only.
Kir Royale
Tel: +44 (0)181 224 6868
Fax: +44 (0)181 224 6767
E-Mail: kiroyale@kiroyale.demon.co.uk
From: don@misckit.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun OpenStep Beta & Colors ?
Date: 23 Jan 1996 16:15:39 GMT
Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <4e31jb$htv@news.xmission.com>
References: <4dmlto$and@gateway.wiltel.com> <DLF86u.9n@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <960122183900.1188AACUO.malc@daneel> <4e12n0$3us@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
seanl@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) wrote:
> mmalcolm crawford (m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk) wrote:
> >Does anyone know what the (cause of the) problem (namely that NEXTSTEP-
> >generated GIFs look dreadful on other systems) is here, and, more
> >importantly, how to correct it?
>
> I've noticed the same thing in reverse: namely, GIFs, TIFFs, etc. created
> on Macs or Sun boxes show up positively washed out on OmniWeb or OmniImage,
> etc.
I'm surprised no one has yet said *why* this is the case. NEXTSTEP
uses a different gamma correction curve than everyone else. I won't
hazard a guess as to why, but any image editor that can do gamma
correction can fix this problem. There's even a NEXTSTEP GIF viewer
(ViewGIF if I remember right) that automatically did gamma correction
when loading GIFs so that they would look better.
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com
<a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Sun OpenStep Beta & Colors ?
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (system PRIVILEGED account)
Message-ID: <DLnA8y.B8u@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 17:36:34 GMT
References: <4dmlto$and@gateway.wiltel.com> <960122183900.1188AACUO.malc@daneel> <4e12n0$3us@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <31049B20.44BA@arsenal.com>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <31049B20.44BA@arsenal.com>,
Andrew T. Foster <knight@arsenal.com> wrote:
>Howdy,
>
> It has always looked pretty poor on the transition between graphics
>formats from NeXT to Windows, etc. Being that its an immense pain that
>I cannot get NeXT TIFs into Photoshop without dumping them to another
>format, as well as they look too dark and washed out.
> Strange!
>
There's a good reason for all of this.
NeXT's window server performs gamma correction, sttempting to map a linear
colour space into linear levels of brightness at the monitor. Since monitors
don't translate voltage to brightness in a linear fashion, this mapping is
necessary to make things look "correct".
Many other systems don't automatically perform gamma correction; what you
see is brightness according to the curve of the monitor's response. NeXT
images are created with linear monitor response in mind (since the window
server makes the monitor's response appear to be linear.) Other systems'
images assume a non-linear monitor response, which is what they get on those
systems, but not on NS.
I think I got that right. :-)
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Michael Bush <Michael_Bush@byu.edu>
Subject: PCNFSD for NeXT
Message-ID: <310542F8.7F47@byu.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 13:20:08 -0700
Organization: Department of French and Italian
MIME-Version: 1.0
CC: bushm@jkhbhrc.byu.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone know where I can find PCNFSD for the NeXTStep Operating
System, Version 3.0 (NeXTCube)? I would prefer the binary although I
guess I could manage to compile it if necessary (if the source code is
all I can find.)
Thanks a bunch!
Cheers,
Mike Bush (Michael_Bush@byu.edu.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: chsaucier@post.sygma.net (Christian Saucier)
Subject: Re: Drag'n'drop in Web browsers on other platforms?
Message-ID: <DLnoxA.Etp@on.bell.ca>
Sender: news@on.bell.ca
Organization: Bell Canada, Bell Sygma, SRCI
References: <4dtntp$3kf@ec.bankone.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:53:33 GMT
In <4dtntp$3kf@ec.bankone.com>, steved@bankone.com writes:
>A question: NetSurfer and OmniWeb (I think) allow me to drag'n'drop images and
>whole html pages (complete with graphics). Do browsers on other platforms
>allow this?
>
OS/2's WebExplorer also supports Drag'n'drop. You can drag a URL in and out of
the browser and you can also drag a single picture from the browser to the
desktop.
OS/2 has a pretty good OO interface so drag'n'drop is a feature that one encounters
in most of OS/2's native applications.
Christian.
--
"Long distance information,
Disconnect me if you can." -SOM
From: ccwoon@pop.jaring.my (Cheong Chee Woon)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.list-admin.software,biz.comp.software,comp.sys.next.software,jaring.pcbase,jaring.general
Subject: N E E D Answering machine s/w
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:12:09 GMT
Organization: Unconfigured
Message-ID: <4e2t8j$dds@jaring.my>
Anyone could help me ? Where to get the following software. ftp from
where ?
1) A Phone recorder software which utilities the sound card and the
modem.
2) A phone answering machine which also utilities the sound card and
the modem. The software will answer the phone call if the host is not
in house.
3) A software use to check the speed of a cache controller. Use to
compare how much faster a cache controller with a normal controller.
4) A speed recognision software. Human speak and the computer will
translate to computer form character. The was demo in the T.V. Last
month.
Thank IN advance of you opinion and help
BTW, need advise where is the actual newsgroup should I post to in
order to get a good result , reflect
------------------------------------
Cheong Chee Woon
E-mail : ccwoon@pop.jaring.my
Tel : +603 4238121
Setapak Garden, Kuala Lumpur, M'sia
Don't worry, Be Happy....
Please advise me where to post to, In order to get good effect.
-----------------------------------
From: rsww@quanta.com (Ross Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.fax
Subject: Re: HylaFax
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,alt.fax
Date: 24 Jan 1996 02:09:57 GMT
Organization: Quanta Communications, Inc.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4e44dl$3c5@news.quanta.com>
References: <4e0h5r$l3j@news.cea.fr>
David A. Kosower (kosower@amoco.saclay.cea.fr) wrote:
: Has anyone had any luck getting HylaFax up and running under NeXTstep?
: Direct replies would be appreciated, as our news server is flaky.
If you run NeXTstep I'd highly recommend going with the NXfax software
from Black & White software. This package extends the fax capabilities
already existing in NeXTstep and offers fax routing and the like. It
isn't too expensive ($150 I think!) and will solve most of your fax
needs (it's neat to have a Postscript Level II fax device too).
Cheers,
Ross Walker
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun OpenStep Beta & Colors ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 24 Jan 1996 04:20:56 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University
Message-ID: <4e4c38$hg6@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <4dmlto$and@gateway.wiltel.com> <DLF86u.9n@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <960122183900.1188AACUO.malc@daneel> <4e12n0$3us@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <4e31jb$htv@news.xmission.com>
don@misckit.com wrote:
: seanl@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) wrote:
: > mmalcolm crawford (m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk) wrote:
: > >Does anyone know what the (cause of the) problem (namely that NEXTSTEP-
: > >generated GIFs look dreadful on other systems) is here, and, more
: > >importantly, how to correct it?
: >
: > I've noticed the same thing in reverse: namely, GIFs, TIFFs, etc. created
: > on Macs or Sun boxes show up positively washed out on OmniWeb or OmniImage,
: > etc.
: I'm surprised no one has yet said *why* this is the case. NEXTSTEP
: uses a different gamma correction curve than everyone else. I won't
: hazard a guess as to why, but any image editor that can do gamma
: correction can fix this problem. There's even a NEXTSTEP GIF viewer
: (ViewGIF if I remember right) that automatically did gamma correction
: when loading GIFs so that they would look better.
I can tell you WHY NeXT is doing it differently then most others. It's
because NeXT is doing it the ONLY RIGHT way. With NeXTstep images are
supposed to have a gamma of 1.0. Because a monitor has a gamma of app.
2.2, the OS has to correct. IMO this is the only right way of doing it.
Files should have a gamma of 1.0 and not 0.45 to give them the right
look on a PC monitor.
For those who are unfamiliar with gamma: when gamma is 1.0 there is a
linear relation between the values of each pixel and the light intensity
on the screen. Because a monitor has a non-linear relation between the
electrical voltage driving the monitor (the RGB) and the light intensity,
somewhere correction must be made. On PC's this is typically done right
after scanning and before storing the image in a file. With NeXT, but
also others like SGI, the file is linear, and the correction for non-
linear electrical voltages is done in the color-lookup table.
Hope this is some further explanation of the WHY this happens.
THAT'S THE WAY, AH, AH, AH, AH, I LIKE IT, AH, AH, AH, AH ... :-)
Willem
gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCNFSD for NeXT
Date: 24 Jan 1996 04:22:40 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University
Message-ID: <4e4c6g$hg6@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <310542F8.7F47@byu.edu>
Michael Bush (Michael_Bush@byu.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know where I can find PCNFSD for the NeXTStep Operating
: System, Version 3.0 (NeXTCube)? I would prefer the binary although I
: guess I could manage to compile it if necessary (if the source code is
: all I can find.)
Wasn't it just in /etc or /etc/bin. If I remember right it is supplied
with NeXTstep. Or maybe not with 3.0. Better use some find-commands
first.
Willem
From: jacques.garbi@colombus.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Next Mail problem
Date: 22 Jan 1996 10:09:06 GMT
Organization: Colombus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4dvno2$s0o@news.petrel.ch>
On 01/19/96, Harmon Craig wrote:
> I use Next Mail on a 21" screen and would like to make the
default
>size of the Compose window larger. I can read the default position
and size
>of the window in dread, and these change when I move or stretch the
window,
>but I cannot understand which coordinates do what: they seem to
change more
>or less randomly. Further, when I quit mail the original default
Compose
>window always comes back.
>
> I would be very grateful if someone could instruct me as to
how to
>change the default size and position of the window!
>--
>H. Craig
>passim@helium.ucsd.edu
>
Hi,
It seems to me that in order to make the compose window larger, you
just have to make the Active.mbox window larger as well. On my
computer (NS 3.3 for Intel), the two are connected and I never was
able to save the width of the compose window without changing the
width of the main window.
Hope that helps
---
Jacques GARBI
Colombus Inc.
Av. de France 33
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone : 011 41 21 661 16 76
Fax : 011 41 21 661 16 73
NeXTMail or MIME : jacques.garbi@colombus.ch
Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger)
Subject: S: class 'Serial.h'
Message-ID: <DLHMzE.M5o@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer
Sender: news@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 16:26:02 GMT
NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER
A few weeks ago I've downloaded from CompuServe a package called NXCim. A part of this
package (which contains sources for a browser for CompuServe) is a class 'Serial'.
Unfortunately, the sources for this class are only the header-file and the object-code for
Next-hardware. I use 'white' hardware, so it's of no use for me. The header-file contains
copyright-restrictions of the following form:
"Copyright (C) BenaTong 1991 All rights reserved"
Can someone point me in any direction, for instance where I can find BenaTong or an
object-file for NsfIP or the Sources or so.
Thanks Olaf
--
Olaf Foellinger
homepage: http://www1.stuttgart.netsurf.de/~ergo/
NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: charlie@heinz.com (Carlos M.Navarro)
Subject: Re: NeXT software archives?
Message-ID: <1996Jan23.220436.3751@heinz.com>
Sender: usenet@heinz.com
Organization: F. HEINZ Consultora
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960119104309.1556K-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Distribution: word
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 22:04:36 GMT
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.960119104309.1556K-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
>
> The other site is ftp.cs.orst, in the /pub/next folder
>
>
watch out!!!..
The NEXTSTEP ftp area of ftp.cs.orst.edu was moving to next-ftp.peak.org
--
CHARLIE
---
Carlos M. Navarro
<charlie@heinz.com>
NeXTMail and MIME are welcome
F.Heinz Consultora
From: kschulz@ba-stuttgart.de (Kay Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXFax for RISC
Date: 24 Jan 1996 08:41:09 GMT
Organization: Berufsakademie Stuttgart
Message-ID: <4e4rb5$3ge@news.BelWue.DE>
Hi
is there an idea of porting NXFax to Sun and or HP?
Please mail
Give a man a fish: feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish: feed him for life.
Teach a hundred men to fish: empty the lake of fish.
Kay Schulz
kay@cordis.lu
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCNFSD for NeXT
Date: 24 Jan 1996 09:26:57 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4e4u11$s8s@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <4e4c6g$hg6@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>
In article <4e4c6g$hg6@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van
Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) writes:
> Michael Bush (Michael_Bush@byu.edu) wrote:
> : Does anyone know where I can find PCNFSD for the NeXTStep Operating
> : System, Version 3.0 (NeXTCube)? I would prefer the binary although I
> : guess I could manage to compile it if necessary (if the source code is
> : all I can find.)
>
> Wasn't it just in /etc or /etc/bin. If I remember right it is supplied
> with NeXTstep. Or maybe not with 3.0. Better use some find-commands
> first.
/usr/etc/rpc.pcnfsd. Problem is, this is version 1, which doesn't support
printing. Version 2 source is very easily available, and compiles up
easily.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk
Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems
Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun OpenStep Beta & Colors ?
Date: 24 Jan 1996 02:37:33 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4e461d$63j@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4dmlto$and@gateway.wiltel.com> <960122183900.1188AACUO.malc@daneel> <4e12n0$3us@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <31049B20.44BA@arsenal.com> <DLnA8y.B8u@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote:
> There's a good reason for all of this.
>
> NeXT's window server performs gamma correction, sttempting to
> map a linear colour space into linear levels of brightness at
> the monitor. Since monitors don't translate voltage to brightness
> in a linear fashion, this mapping is necessary to make things
> look "correct".
>
> Many other systems don't automatically perform gamma correction;
> what you see is brightness according to the curve of the monitor's
> response. NeXT images are created with linear monitor response
> in mind (since the window server makes the monitor's response
> appear to be linear.) Other systems' images assume a non-linear
> monitor response, which is what they get on those systems, but
> not on NS.
>
> I think I got that right. :-)
I think so too. I also think it's an offshoot of using display
postscript. For postscript, which is device-independent, it's
best to stick with a linear color space. It's monitors which
have the brightness problem, and you shouldn't let a device-specific
problem overshadow having a consistent way to do things.
The other reason that there is a problem is that image formats
don't indicate whether gamma correction has been done or not.
One solution for this is to move towards the PNG format, which
includes the gamma information in the image.
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Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org
Subject: (EOF) How to tell EOF that a trigger had rollback a transaction
Message-ID: <1996Jan24.072702.14580@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 07:27:02 GMT
Hi,
I got a problem with the handling of transaction with EOF when a trigger
rolls back the current transaction.
EOF seems out of sync, the only way to cure it is to quit the application and
restart.
Here are the messages:
Sybase Server:unknown Procedure:none Line:1
Message:Attempt to issue 'SAVE TRANsaction' when there is no active
transaction
Sybase Server:unknown Procedure:none Line:1
Message:The commit transaction request has no corresponding BEGIN
TRANSACTION.
I know about the delegate method:
- (BOOL)sybaseChannel:(SybaseChannel *)channel
willReportMessageWithNumber:(int)msgNo msgState:(int)msgState
severity:(int)severity msgText:(char *)msgText srvname:(char *)srvname
procname:(char *)procname lineno:(int)lineno
and tried to send to the EODatabaseContext the message transactionDidRollback
with no luck :-(
Thanks
Fabien
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From: andreass@down.amg.de.amg.de (Andreas Seifert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Editor for HTML-Documents?
Date: 24 Jan 1996 12:01:39 GMT
Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH
Message-ID: <4e5733$5hc@hagen.amg.de>
Hi all,
is there a free or shareware editor for HTML-Documents for NeXT available?
Thanks
andreas
From: "Christoph Widmer (by ubsswop)" <zhwit>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: FrameMaker to HTML conversion
Date: 24 Jan 1996 14:59:48 GMT
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland
Message-ID: <4e5hh4-qas@svstch.ubs.ch>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi all
I'm looking for a FrameMaker (mif) to HTML converter, which can handle
different pargraph formats, table of contents, ...
Any suggestions ?
Thanks for your help.
Christoph Widmer
Christoph.s.z.h.w.i.t.Widmer@ubs.ch
From: cikan@par.univie.ac.at (Edwin CIKAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFax for RISC
Date: 24 Jan 1996 18:00:52 GMT
Organization: Vienna University, Austria
Message-ID: <4e5s4k$ndk@ftp.univie.ac.at>
On 01/24/96, Kay Schulz wrote:
>Hi
>is there an idea of porting NXFax to Sun and or HP?
>Please mail
>
Please post too ....
I heard a while ago there is no plan yet, because of problems with the serial
interfaces on Sun and HP. I don't know if this is the reason, because there was
another information long time ago that there will be a port, at least to Sun.
Regards, Edwin.
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Department of Software Technology and Parallel Systems
Liechtensteinstrasse 22
A-1090 Vienna, Austria (EUROPE)
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Tel.: +43 1 3105608-84
Fax: +43 1 3105608-88
From: hanley@popeye (Mark Hanley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: fragmented disk
Date: 24 Jan 1996 17:54:36 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Martin M & S, Sunnyvale, CA
Message-ID: <4e5ros$ete@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>
Does anyone know of any software or method that would de-fragment
my hard-drive( NeXTStation Turbo 400M )?
Thanks in advance,
Mark Hanley
hanley@gelac.lasc.lockheed.com
From: shess@subzero.winternet.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: fragmented disk
Date: 24 Jan 1996 12:57:23 -0600
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
Sender: shess@subzero.winternet.com
Message-ID: <acka2h8lpo.fsf@subzero.winternet.com>
References: <4e5ros$ete@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>
In-reply-to: hanley@popeye's message of 24 Jan 1996 17:54:36 GMT
In article <4e5ros$ete@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>,
hanley@popeye (Mark Hanley) writes:
>Does anyone know of any software or method that would de-fragment
>my hard-drive( NeXTStation Turbo 400M )?
You shouldn't have to, due to NeXTSTEP's use of BSD FFS. Simpler
filesystems, such as DOS FAT, allocate disk space from block 0 to the
end in linear fashion. If your file needs another block, it's
allocated the first available block on the disk, even if that block
isn't very close to the rest of the file's blocks.
FFS, on the other hand, scatters files sparsely across the disk from
the get-go. So long as you leave enough space free, it can usually
place all of a file's blocks in the same cylinder group, for best
performance. For very large files, it breaks the file up into
relatively large pieces (ie, 1M or so), and then puts the pieces on
different cylinder groups. Thus each piece of the file is still fast.
This all works reasonably well so long as your system isn't constantly
low on disk space. If it is, then things start to get hairy,
because there's not enough consecutive blocks to put files on.
That's why disks, by default, have a 10% buffer zone reserved for
root use only. After the other 90% of the disk is used up, and
root tries to write more data, it starts allocating blocks based
on a space-oriented algorithm rather than a speed-oriented one.
And you'll get fragmentation.
Note that this space is _not_ wasted or lost. You don't want to "fix"
your disk so that this space is always available, because it _really_
messes up how the system works. Performance will falter, and you run
the risk of messing up the disk. It would be better to just get
enough disk space so that the operating system can work correctly.
If you've made it this far and _still_ want to defragment your disk,
well, your only real option is to build a new disk from scratch and
write the files to it atomically (ie, one file at a time so that
the entire file ends up close to itself). It's probably not
worthwhile, though.
Later,
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From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Editor for HTML-Documents?
Message-ID: <1996Jan24.194505.45936@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 24 Jan 96 19:45:05 MET
References: <4e5733$5hc@hagen.amg.de>
Summary: HTML-Editors
Keywords: HTML, Web, Editor
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
In article <4e5733$5hc@hagen.amg.de>, andreass@down.amg.de.amg.de (Andreas Seifert) writes:
> Hi all,
>
> is there a free or shareware editor for HTML-Documents for NeXT available?
>
> Thanks
>
> andreas
I know of 2 free editors: WebWriter and HTML-Writer (not sure about this
name) Both are available on the Peanuts CD's or via the Peanuts Archive
(I use Webwriter at the moment...)
Hope this helps
Daniel
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: fragmented disk - TANGENT - yer address is mucked???
Date: 24 Jan 1996 19:42:14 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-h-11.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4e622m$hfm@usc.edu>
References: <4e5ros$ete@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>
In <4e5ros$ete@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com> Mark Hanley wrote:
yer reply-to = hanley@popeye
yer self-acknowledged hom = hanley@gelac.lasc.lockheed.com
needer wirk!
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USC-CNTV
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From: giddings@menominee.menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Suggestions for NeXT Database Package?
Date: 24 Jan 1996 21:44:52 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison
Message-ID: <4e698k$23nq@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <4dkbi2$jpb@news.asu.edu> <4dlufn$eig@trane.opensource.com>
In <4dlufn$eig@trane.opensource.com> Daniel J. Gamble wrote:
> In article <4dkbi2$jpb@news.asu.edu> walker@imap1.asu.edu writes:
> > Hi folks. If anyone might have the time to give their two cents with
> > respect to their NeXT DB package of choice, I would be indebted.
> >
> > Would be nice if it were:
> >
> > -Relational
> > -Accessable with customized code (like C with embedded SQL, or Perl
> > scripts, or whatever...I'm new to this)
> > -But still having programming tools to make initial setup from GUI a
> > fairly pleasant experience
> > -Reasonably priced, like the possibility of <$500 w/ student
> > discount...don't expect many people will have a good fix on this one :)
> >
> > Need to get a DB <--> Web browser project going and I can't wait any
> longer
> > to see if I was fortunate enough to be chosen for Web Objects beta
> > testing!! :)
If you're on a budget, have a look at mSQL. For non-commercial users, it is
a free, mSQL-subset relational database (commercial users are supposed to
pay a shareware fee of $250). Also, there is now a package called w3-mSQL
for interfacing mSQL to web sites. Furthermore, someone has created a
Shareware EOF adaptor for mSQL.
The only downside is that you'll probably have to compile mSQL yourself to
get the latest version.
You should be able to find more info at
http://AusWeb.com.au/computer/Fiddich
The EOF adaptor, and an older (out of date, slightly buggy) version of mSQL
compiled for NS, can be found on ftp.cs.orst.edu.
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From: alex@zivserv.franken.de (Alexander Much)
Subject: Re: Editor for HTML-Documents?
Message-ID: <DLpnwI.Bp0@zivserv.franken.de>
Organization: Member of: Kommunikationsnetz Franken e.V. (KNF)
References: <4e5733$5hc@hagen.amg.de>
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 00:26:42 GMT
Andreas Seifert (andreass@down.amg.de.amg.de) wrote:
: Hi all,
: is there a free or shareware editor for HTML-Documents for NeXT available?
Try emacs with the html.el-extension.
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From: dsi@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (George Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for BBS software for NEXTSTEP
Date: 24 Jan 1996 15:01:31 -0800
Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338)
Message-ID: <4e6dob$781@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com>
Does anyone know of any public domain BBS software that runs on NEXTSTEP ?
George
From: kjones@opus.freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (Kieran Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: ThreeD V0.6 Error Report
Date: 24 Jan 1996 23:41:27 GMT
Organization: Vancouver Regional FreeNet
Message-ID: <4e6g37$5v5@milo.freenet.vancouver.bc.ca>
---------------------------------------------
ThreeD Version 0.6 Error Report 24-Jan-96
---------------------------------------------
Program: ThreeD V0.6
Description: NextStep 3D scene modeler.
Location:
ftp://ftp.cs.orst.edu/pub/software/NeXT/binaries/graphics/
File:
ThreeD_06_NIHS.tar.Z
Error:
Although the ThreeD interface supports all six types of RenderMan
shaders and allows any of the six to be specified for a shape, RenderMan
itself implements only the Surface, Displacement and Light shader types.
The Volume, Imager and Transformation shaders are not implemented at the
RenderMan level and consequently have no effect on ThreeD's rendered
output even if specified.
From: david@legion.apana.org.au (David Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Editor for HTML-Documents?
Date: 25 Jan 1996 12:25:03 GMT
Organization: Australian Public Access Network Association
Message-ID: <4e7sqv$d6k@hock.apana.org.au>
References: <4e5733$5hc@hagen.amg.de>
Keywords: HTML editor
In <4e5733$5hc@hagen.amg.de> Andreas Seifert opined:
> Hi all,
>
> is there a free or shareware editor for HTML-Documents for NeXT available?
>
Try HTML-Editor.app available from James Powell at
http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/jpowell.html
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What opinions?
From: ti6ls@myhost.subdomain.domain (Ludger Solbach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mathematica 2.0 on NS 3.3
Date: 25 Jan 1996 12:51:41 GMT
Organization: TU Hamburg-Harburg
Message-ID: <4e7uct$dla@rztsun.tu-harburg.de>
The kernel of Mathematica 2.0 gets stuck when run on NS 3.3. Did anybody
solve this problem? Any help would be appreciated.
Regards,
Ludger.
From: cjones@haakon.wellesley.edu (Carl Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?
Date: 25 Jan 1996 15:17:21 GMT
Organization: Wellesley College
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4e86u1$pmg@charlotte.wellesley.edu>
Has anyone used Keith Ohlf's program Pixelist (pixelist.tar.Z) available on
his Pixelsite WEB page? The URL is
http://www.pixelsight.com/PS/services/services_tools.html.
He writes:
Pixelist is the program I use to create all the icons at this site. It is a
paint/compositing program designed for detail editing of full alpha channel
- 32 bit images.
Among other capabilities, I'm looking for a NEXTSTEP graphics app which will
allow me to optimize my .gif images (e.g. reduce the bit depth of color
.gifs for faster downloading from WEB pages). WetPaint, for example,
doesn't handle .gif files; will Tiffany II do this, any others?
Carl
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From: jklinke@ucsd.edu (Jochen Klinke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PCNFSD for NeXT
Date: 25 Jan 1996 16:56:05 GMT
Organization: The University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <4e8cn5$ero@news1.ucsd.edu>
References: <4e4c6g$hg6@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>
In article <4e4c6g$hg6@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van
Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) writes:
> Michael Bush (Michael_Bush@byu.edu) wrote:
> : Does anyone know where I can find PCNFSD for the NeXTStep Operating
> : System, Version 3.0 (NeXTCube)? I would prefer the binary although I
> : guess I could manage to compile it if necessary (if the source code is
> : all I can find.)
>
>[snip]
It's in /usr/etc and is called rpc.pcnfsd (at least for NS3.3).
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From: nickl@mit.edu (J. Nicholas Laneman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Booting Single User? NeXT Computer, NS 1.0?
Date: 25 Jan 1996 21:09:55 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4e8rj3$f6g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
We have an old NeXT Computer running NS 1.0 (I think, certainly not
3.3 or anything like that). There's something wrong with the
configuration, and the boot gets stuck with the message "Starting
System Services." I know there is some key combination to bring up the
monitor program, allowing me to boot in single user. Can anyone tell
me this key combination, and what commands to type to boot single
user?
Thanks very much,
Nick Laneman
Digital Signal Processing Group
MIT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Subject: Has someone MetroTools 1.2 disk# 2 for NS m68k?
Message-ID: <DLMGMu.3F7@galileo.pr.net.ch>
Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Organization: Home in Tenero, Switzerland
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 06:56:54 GMT
Hi!
I have MetroTools 1.2 for my NeXTStation, but the disk#2 is missing.
Has someone this disk? I would like to find one ready to send me a
copy of this disk, but NOT via email or ftp, since I will pay too
much my provider for this service :-(
So, if you have this disk, please select the appropriate answer :-))
[ ] Yes, you can send me a floppy, I will copy disk#2 and send it back.
Here is my address: ________
[ ] Ask __________, [s]he will help you.
[ ] I have the floppy you ask for, but I will not help you :-]
[ ] I don't have the disk you need, so I've just lost time with your article.
Thank you!
Stefano
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NeXTMail: Stefano@Galileo.pr.net.CH
From: Technical Options <toi@mcs.com>
Newsgroups: tx.jobs,pdaxs.jobs.computers,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,chi.jobs
Subject: So. Cal: (619) Next Objective C S/W Developers
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 96 04:29:26 PDT
Organization: MCSNet Internet Services
Message-ID: <NEWTNews.31559.822574780.Postmaster@toi.mcs.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Multiple positions: S/W Engineers to S/R S/W Engineers
Salary commenurate with experience, 40-90K Plus bonus.
Desired Skills: Nextstep, Objective C, Sybase, Interface Builder & Next
development tools
The candidate should have 2-5 years plus experience. Eligible candidate should
have the following skills:
1) Ability to handle multiple projects simultaneously
2) Ability to work under pressure in time critical situations
3) Problem solving and analytical capabilities
Knowledge of one of the following:
- Financial Derivatives Business
- Currency Options Pricing
- Risk Management
- Interest Rate Derivatives
Contact Mike Hartnett for more information; Technical Options, Inc
P-708.357.9400 toi@mcs.com
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From: fordp@polaris.net (Perrone Ford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Booting Single User? NeXT Computer, NS 1.0?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 25 Jan 1996 18:44:28 -0500
Organization: Polaris Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <4e94ks$ftr@nexus.polaris.net>
References: <4e8rj3$f6g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
J. Nicholas Laneman (nickl@mit.edu) wrote:
: We have an old NeXT Computer running NS 1.0 (I think, certainly not
: 3.3 or anything like that). There's something wrong with the
: configuration, and the boot gets stuck with the message "Starting
: System Services." I know there is some key combination to bring up the
: monitor program, allowing me to boot in single user. Can anyone tell
: me this key combination, and what commands to type to boot single
: user?
you need to get into the nmi monitor....which you do by pressing the
RIGHT "command" key and the ~ key on the numberic keypad.
Once there .. the command to boot single user is b -s
things you should know..
When in the Monitor your prompt will be "NeXT>"
NeXT> b <- This will boot from the normal boot device
NeXT> b -s <- This will boot single user mode from the normal
boot device
NeXT> bsd <- This will boot from the first SCSI disk
NeXT> bsd(1,0,0) <- This will boot from the second SCSI disk..
Need more info?? Drop a line...
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From: fordp@polaris.net (Perrone Ford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Seek PC program: .WAV --> NeXT .SND
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 25 Jan 1996 18:56:00 -0500
Organization: Polaris Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <4e95ag$gsf@nexus.polaris.net>
References: <4e190m$634@zinc.Mlink.NET>
Patrick O'Connell (titanide@Mlink.NET) wrote:
: Hi,
: Any suggestions for a DOS or Windows-based program are welcome -- I'm not
: fascistic about either, and am not running Windoze 95. And yes, we know
: about GISO -- he has the sources but has not compiled them yet.
Tell your bud that he can get a "compiled version of GISO from
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/sound/GISO.MAB.v3.3.tar.gz
no muss, no fuss. And it works like a charm...
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From: fordp@polaris.net (Perrone Ford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?
Date: 25 Jan 1996 19:00:11 -0500
Organization: Polaris Network, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4e95ib$h4o@nexus.polaris.net>
References: <4e86u1$pmg@charlotte.wellesley.edu>
: Among other capabilities, I'm looking for a NEXTSTEP graphics app which will
: allow me to optimize my .gif images (e.g. reduce the bit depth of color
: .gifs for faster downloading from WEB pages). WetPaint, for example,
: doesn't handle .gif files; will Tiffany II do this, any others?
Unfortunately, I cannot afford any of these fancy programs. So I find myself
using a little program called epstotiff. It makes jpegs, tiff's, gifs, and
even interlaced gifs. It has never squawked on me, and the files have been
very nice. Noce of my clients have complained, and thats my marker for success.
--
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HighTime Web Development Tallahassee, FL 32303
(904) 222-0620 or 681-6322 hightime@polaris.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Subject: Re: Sound in SoftPC
Message-ID: <DLrIMB.121@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN
References: <DLKxo9.20r@isltd.insignia.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 00:27:46 GMT
Thank you again, Ian.
In article <DLKxo9.20r@isltd.insignia.com> ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
writes:
: 4.1 has an unsupported Windows sound driver. It drives SoundKit, so
: should run on any sound card, but it is only in Windows. It is not a
: formal part of the 4.1 release, as it has a few features missing, and
: didn't go through our formal test procedure. However it works OK for a
: lot of things (though a very fast CD drive is recomened if you want to
: try any big multimedia stuff).
:
: It's not installed by default (cause its unofficial), but I put a copy
: of the necessary drivers in a directory called Goodies on the CD. These
: should be installed from the Windows control panel. (these DO NOT WORK
: ON OLDER REEASES, so don't even try).
This sounds good since there are no Japanese multi-media CDs
for NEXTSTEP. I hope it runs in NS3.2.
---
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Subject: NS3.3 User & NS3.2 Developer -- Compatible?
Message-ID: <DLrKx9.159@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 01:17:33 GMT
Hello,
I am thinking to upgrade only User environment to NS3.3;
Developer upgrade is too expensive for personal users! But I
am afraid if there is serious incompatibility between NS3.3
User and NS3.2 Developer environment. Although I will not
write drivers, I want to compile many free UNIX command-line
and NEXT applications and use InterfaceBuilder to write my
own NEXT applications. I also want to use Objective-Tcl and
Objective-Browser from TipTop-Software. Are they possible in
3.3 User and 3.2 Developer environments?
Thanks,
---
Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J)
hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (NeXTMail OK)
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT software archives?
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 12:45:28 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960125124439.9893F-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <1996Jan23.220436.3751@heinz.com>
On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Carlos M.Navarro wrote:
> > The other site is ftp.cs.orst, in the /pub/next folder
> >
> >
> watch out!!!..
> The NEXTSTEP ftp area of ftp.cs.orst.edu was moving to next-ftp.peak.org
It has since moved to its new site.
TjL
--
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From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: pppd ran as daemon
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 26 Jan 1996 04:29:43 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4e9lbn$1bo0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <4djq0k$1e7@news.petrel.ch>
Jacques Garbi (jacques.garbi@colombus.ch) wrote:
: Being recently connected to the Net through a leased line, I'd like to be able
: to start a PPP connection as soon as the computer is turned on.
...
: If the PPP connection fail at one time or another, will it affect other
: applications, or the system itself ?
For that how 'bout running it from /etc/ttys instead of getty on this port?
'init' will take care of it.
--mj
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 07:56:02 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-06.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu>
References: <4e86u1$pmg@charlotte.wellesley.edu> <4e95ib$h4o@nexus.polaris.net>
In <4e95ib$h4o@nexus.polaris.net> Perrone Ford wrote:
> Unfortunately, I cannot afford any of these fancy programs.
So I find myself
> using a little program called epstotiff. It makes jpegs,
tiff's, gifs, and
> even interlaced gifs. It has never squawked on me, and the
files have been
> very nice. Noce of my clients have complained, and thats my
marker for success.
I would still say PixelMagician is the app of choice for any
graphic translations and bit depth manipulation (and really
little $$ - it's priced like any MS products) .
--
Be well,
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reichman@scf.usc.edu
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Multiple file uuencoding?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 09:59:39 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-06.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4ea8mb$m3o@usc.edu>
Would this be some kind of sh or perl script?
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From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 10:07:32 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu>
In article <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
writes:
> In <4e95ib$h4o@nexus.polaris.net> Perrone Ford wrote:
> > Unfortunately, I cannot afford any of these fancy programs.
> So I find myself
> > using a little program called epstotiff. It makes jpegs,
> tiff's, gifs, and
> > even interlaced gifs. It has never squawked on me, and the
> files have been
> > very nice. Noce of my clients have complained, and thats my
> marker for success.
>
> I would still say PixelMagician is the app of choice for any
> graphic translations and bit depth manipulation (and really
> little $$ - it's priced like any MS products) .
Does it do interlaced gifs? I have some command line programs that do
this, but one app to do it all would be a boon.
Paul
--
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Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems
Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: jacques.garbi@colombus.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Porblem with Intel box and NS
Date: 26 Jan 1996 10:49:26 GMT
Organization: Colombus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4eabjm$9m3@news.petrel.ch>
References: <DLMJnE.HsE@oops.se> <1167cc$7323.3d0@kirk.microsys.net>?
In-Reply-To: <DLMJnE.HsE@oops.se>
It has to do with the motherboard and S3 based video cards !
I don't exactly remember why, but with most Pentiums and S3 based
video cards, you can't boot into graphic mode. That's the reason why
you have to boot using the -v option that lets you boot in text mode.
Since you don't have any choice but booting in text mode, you should
go in Configure.app, click on Expert, and change the Graphics option
from yes to no and that'll do it !!
---
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Colombus Inc.
Av. de France 33
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone : 011 41 21 661 16 76
Fax : 011 41 21 661 16 73
NeXTMail or MIME : jacques.garbi@colombus.ch
On 01/23/96, Malte Tancred wrote:
>In <1167cc$7323.3d0@kirk.microsys.net> Caffeine Boy wrote:
>> We've managed to install NS 3.3 succesfully on a P100 SCSI HD
machine
>> and have only one niggling problem. The OS will only boot up if we
>> type the -v option at the the initial prompt. Pressing return or
>> letting the prompt time out results in a black screen. This is
dull.
>> Does anyone out there have any hints or tips?
>>
>
>I'm not sure if I remember this right, but we had a similar problem
with an
>HP PA-RISC machine. You had to press enter at the initial prompt, or
the
>machine wouldn't boot. I think this was fixed with the upgrade to 3.3
or
>with the 3.3 patch 1. I'm not sure though. Any comments?
>
>Regards,
>Malte
>
>PS. If you haven't got the patch I suggest you get it from NeXT ftp
archive
>(ftp.next.com).
>
>--
>Malte Tancred
>OOPS art, HB
>Member of Swedish Object Guild
>malte@oops.se NeXTMail, Mime welcome
>
>
From: jacques.garbi@colombus.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How can I make a gif or jpg image with a transparent background ?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 11:15:43 GMT
Organization: Colombus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ead4v$9qc@news.petrel.ch>
Hi,
For Web pages, I'd like to be able to convert Tiff images with alpha
(transparency) into gif or jpeg format but so they keep the original
transparency (so that behind, the body background is still visible).
Does anyone know how to do that on NS 3.3 for Intel ?
Thanks
---
Jacques GARBI
Colombus Inc.
Av. de France 33
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone : 011 41 21 661 16 76
Fax : 011 41 21 661 16 73
NeXTMail or MIME : jacques.garbi@colombus.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: Sound in SoftPC
Message-ID: <DLsD7J.54@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <DLrIMB.121@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:28:31 GMT
In article <DLrIMB.121@papageno.rim.or.jp> hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp
(Hiroshi TOMARU) writes:
>
> In article <DLKxo9.20r@isltd.insignia.com>
ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
> writes:
> : SPC4.1 has an unsupported Windows sound driver.
>
> I hope it runs in NS3.2.
Not formally tested, but I' have seen it running on NS3.2 and it was
fine.
Ian
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS3.3 User & NS3.2 Developer -- Compatible?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 08:15:19 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4ea2in$j4v@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <DLrKx9.159@papageno.rim.or.jp>
hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am thinking to upgrade only User environment to NS3.3; Developer
> upgrade is too expensive for personal users! But I am afraid if
> there is serious incompatibility between NS3.3 User and NS3.2
> Developer environment.
Originally NS-3.3 User came out by itself. NS-3.3 Developer was
released, um, about six months later I think it was. There should
be no problems running NS-3.3 User and NS-3.2 Developer.
---
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: neuss@sun10 (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun OpenStep Beta & Colors ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 26 Jan 1996 14:21:37 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Systemarchitektur, TH Darmstadt, Germany
Message-ID: <4eao1h$bou@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <4dmlto$and@gateway.wiltel.com> <DLF86u.9n@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <960122183900.1188AACUO.malc@daneel>
mmalcolm crawford (m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk) wrote:
: Does anyone know what the (cause of the) problem (namely that NEXTSTEP-
: generated GIFs look dreadful on other systems) is here, and, more
: importantly, how to correct it?
NEXTSEP does an alpha correction, most X windows servers don't. GIF
authors often compensate their servers behaviour by "correcting"
their images. Alpha-modified Gifs from other platforms (I think
alpha correction is a misnomer here, since _correction_ would
take place in the server or the display program, but not in the
image itself) look to bright. NEXTSTEP made images on a non-corrected
platform look to dark.
Of course, you can post-process all your gifs. I don't know of any
cmd-line utility, but I'm sure they exist.
--
// Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.."
// neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
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From: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IEEE 488 (GPIB)
Date: 26 Jan 1996 18:32:29 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4eb6nt$967@news.eecs.umich.edu>
Keywords: IEEE 488 GPIB card driver
Does anyone know of an IEEE 488 card and driver that works with NEXTSTEP?
Roland
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 20:01:21 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-h-03.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ebbuh$ljm@usc.edu>
References: <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
In <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Paul Lynch wrote:
> Does it do interlaced gifs? I have some command line
programs that do
> this, but one app to do it all would be a boon.
Would that be the same as "interleaved"? PixelMagician has option
button titled "interleaved".
--
Be well,
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reichman@scf.usc.edu
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From: mrozek@eecs.umich.edu (Eric M. Mrozek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Seek PC program: .WAV --> NeXT .SND
Date: 26 Jan 1996 19:52:23 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS
Message-ID: <4ebbdn$ajh@news.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <4e190m$634@zinc.Mlink.NET>
In article <4e190m$634@zinc.Mlink.NET> titanide@Mlink.NET (Patrick
O'Connell) writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> In order to better be able to send a NeXT-owning friend sound files that
> I only have in .WAV format (the native format of MS Windoze). I have
> tried a DOS program, hardly a brand-new one, called SOX but the .SND
> files it produces don't seem to be 100% kosher -- the speed is screwed
up
> when my friend plays them after receiving them from me.
>
> Any suggestions for a DOS or Windows-based program are welcome -- I'm
not
> fascistic about either, and am not running Windoze 95. And yes, we know
> about GISO -- he has the sources but has not compiled them yet.
GISO is just a GUI for SOX, so you can take it or leave it.
When SOX is compiled for DOS it considers .snd files to be in a format
for some older DOS sound package (not the same thing as a NeXT .snd).
What you need to do to get what you want is convert the .wav to a .au
and then rename it to .snd (NeXT's .snd format is practically
identical to Sun's .au format).
Another thing to condsider is that NeXT hardware will play any correctly
formatted .snd that has a sample rate less than 50kHz or so, but it
will only be distortionless if the rate is 8012 (actually played back at
8012.8210513 Hz), 44100, or 22050.
Eric
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 20:08:20 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <4ebcbk$bt6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) writes:
>In article <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
>writes:
>> I would still say PixelMagician is the app of choice for any
>> graphic translations and bit depth manipulation (and really
>> little $$ - it's priced like any MS products) .
>Does it do interlaced gifs? I have some command line programs that do
>this, but one app to do it all would be a boon.
I so testify. To see what PixelMagician can do for Web graphics, I modestly
offer this URL: http://www.melvin.com/
Every graphic in all 11 issues was processed with PM, very often yielding
extraordinary compression and good looks. Baachus did a great job; I wish
the market was bigger, to encourage thme to continue development.
--
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P.O. Box 742 * Urbana, IL 61801
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From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How can I make a gif or jpg image with a transparent background ?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 20:12:46 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <4ebcju$c58@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <4ead4v$9qc@news.petrel.ch>
jacques.garbi@colombus.ch (Jacques Garbi) writes:
>Hi,
>For Web pages, I'd like to be able to convert Tiff images with alpha
>(transparency) into gif or jpeg format but so they keep the original
>transparency (so that behind, the body background is still visible).
>Does anyone know how to do that on NS 3.3 for Intel ?
>Thanks
This would be a very convenient thing. For now, I composite the 'color to
be transparent' as a solid color, convert the TIFF to GIF with Pixel
Magician, then use 'giftrans' from the command line to make that color
transparent.
--
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P.O. Box 742 * Urbana, IL 61801
steve@dave-world.net * 217.344.5303 * 217.344.8981 fax
Staff Visioneer, Beckman Institute Visualization Facility * indy@uiuc.edu
From: matthewm@sgate.com (Michael Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPD file for Tektronix 340 problem?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 15:35:26 -0500
Organization: Southgate Internet Host
Message-ID: <4ebdue$85l@sgate.com>
[I figure this is more software than hardware, so ...]
Has anybody else had problems with printing Concurrence or Diagram files to a
Tektronix Phaser 340 printer? I'm using NEXTSTEP 3.3 and the PPD file came
off of Tektronix' web site. Here are the first few lines of the PPD file:
*PPD-Adobe: "4.2"
*% Adobe Systems PostScript(R) Printer Description File
*% Copyright (c) 1994 Tektronix, Incorporated. All rights reserved.
*% Tektronix (R) is a registered trademark of Tektronix, Inc.
*% TekColor TM is a trademark of Tektronix, Inc.
*% Phaser TM is a trademark of Tektronix, Inc., for color printers and
*% related products.
*FormatVersion: "4.2"
*FileVersion: "1.0"
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*LanguageVersion: English
*PCFileName: "TK340691.PPD"
*Product: "(Phaser 340)"
*PSVersion: "(2015.009) 6"
*ModelName: "Tektronix Phaser 340 with 600 dpi"
*ShortNickName: "Tektronix Phaser 340 600 dpi"
*NickName: "Tektronix Phaser 340 with 600 dpi"
The problem seems to be with an 'ambient background color' of some sort.
Even though Diagram and Concurrence swears it's a white background, the
PostScript file says otherwise. I've traced it to a 'WhitePoint' operator
which by default is:
WhitePoint[.9505 1 1.089]
Setting it to [1 1 1] does NOT have the desired effect, so it's going through
some sort of matrix. My knowledge of PostScript (nay, matrix math) isn't all
that hot so I'm hoping someone else knows what's going on, maybe? Like maybe
the Pentium floating point problem, which this NS machine has? (said
half-jokingly)
Thanks.
--
---
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From: manish@math.uic.edu (Manish Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: .mov players for NeXT?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 22:54:45 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Message-ID: <4ebm3l$8d04@tigger.cc.uic.edu>
The subject says it all! Does anyone know anyplace where I can get a .mov player for NeXT? Intel/HP preferred.
--
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From: horst@next_tk.de.stratus.com (Horst_Dries)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: softpc and dbase
Date: 26 Jan 1996 13:20:58 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Distribution: all
Message-ID: <4eakfq$8k@transfer.stratus.com>
Keywords: dbase
Hi there,
is there any positive experience with dbase 4 under softpc ??
on my nextstation is just returns the softpc prompt without any
error message...
as i remember dbase 3 was running fine...
thanks for any help
Regards
Horst
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (bill anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: how to set up as a ppp server?
Date: 27 Jan 1996 00:34:20 GMT
Organization: McGill University Computing Centre
Message-ID: <4ebruc$2mt@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
I have a NeXT at work on the 'Net and a Mac at home. I would like to set
up my NeXT as a PPP server or SLIP server, but only for myself at home.
Could someone point me in the right direction as to how to do this? For
example, where to find the appropriate software. I'm sure this has been
asked before, so maybe point me to the pertinent FAQ.
Thanks in advance,
Bill
--
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(bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca)
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: .mov players for NeXT?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 23:56:10 GMT
Organization: my own
Message-ID: <4ebpmq$mgc@gate.seicom.net>
References: <4ebm3l$8d04@tigger.cc.uic.edu>
Movie 3.0 has support for some Quicktime types ('.mov', it uses xanim as a backend) as
far as I know. The package should be available on peanuts
(ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de) somewhere.
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From: Aleksey Sudakov <zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 96 05:48:17 +0300
Subject: Re: how to set up as a ppp server?
In article <4ebruc$2mt@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, you wrote:
> I have a NeXT at work on the 'Net and a Mac at home. I would like
to set
> up my NeXT as a PPP server or SLIP server, but only for myself at
home.
> Could someone point me in the right direction as to how to do
this? For
> example, where to find the appropriate software. I'm sure this
has been
> asked before, so maybe point me to the pertinent FAQ.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bill
> --
> Bill Anderson
> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
> McGill University
> (bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca)
Point your Web Browser to URL:
http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/NeXT_PPP_FAQ.html
Aleksey.
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From: tholland@dreams.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Why wont my NeXT recognize an app as an executable
Date: 26 Jan 1996 21:46:22 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY 12866
Message-ID: <4ebi3e$299@saims.skidmore.edu>
Can anyone tell me why one day a unix executable program is suddenly NOT
recognized by my NeXT computer as an executable ? Instead, it opens the
Edit App and try to read the file. How can I make the computer recognize
that its IS a binary/executable ?
(ps I have not upgraded or made any changes....in recent months)
Thanks for any help.
Anthony Holland
please reply to: tholland@skidmore.edu
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [TIF,JPG]->GIF w/ alpha transparency
Date: 27 Jan 1996 04:26:46 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ec9i6$66b@news4.digex.net>
I remember a while back someone posted, somewhere a tool that let
you convert images into gif's with alpha. I searched the ftp sites
and couldn't find it. Could someone please tell me where I might
find it?
Thank you :)
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Try to upgrade PixelMagician (Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?)
Date: 27 Jan 1996 04:35:29 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4eca2h$66b@news4.digex.net>
References: <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <4ebcbk$bt6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) wrote:
> >> I would still say PixelMagician is the app of choice for any
> >> graphic translations and bit depth manipulation (and really
> >> little $$ - it's priced like any MS products) .
> >Does it do interlaced gifs? I have some command line programs
> >that do this, but one app to do it all would be a boon.
> I so testify. To see what PixelMagician can do for Web graphics,
> I modestly offer this URL: http://www.melvin.com/
> Every graphic in all 11 issues was processed with PM, very often
> yielding extraordinary compression and good looks. Baachus did
> a great job; I wish the market was bigger, to encourage thme to
> continue development.
Speaking of which, PM does everything but save gifs with alpha.
Maybe if we could start a list of people willing to pay $50bux for
them to upgrade it, they might do it.
I'll start with my vote :)
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From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Suggestions for NeXT Database Package?
Date: 26 Jan 1996 21:57:25 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4ebio5$gs@turbocat.snafu.de>
References: <4dkbi2$jpb@news.asu.edu> <4dlufn$eig@trane.opensource.com> <4e698k$23nq@news.doit.wisc.edu>
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giddings@menominee.menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) wrote:
(...)
> The only downside is that you'll probably have to compile mSQL yourself to
> get the latest version.
>
> You should be able to find more info at
> http://AusWeb.com.au/computer/Fiddich
>
> The EOF adaptor, and an older (out of date, slightly buggy) version of mSQL
Sounds great. What are the bugs?
> compiled for NS, can be found on ftp.cs.orst.edu.
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Try to upgrade PixelMagician (Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?)
Date: 27 Jan 1996 08:19:46 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-64.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4ecn72$an@usc.edu>
References: <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
<4ebcbk$bt6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4eca2h$66b@news4.digex.net>
In <4eca2h$66b@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote:
> Speaking of which, PM does everything but save gifs with
alpha.
> Maybe if we could start a list of people willing to pay
$50bux for
> them to upgrade it, they might do it.
>
> I'll start with my vote :)
Well, John (re the email I just sent you), I would say sign me
on, too. And I will talk to them next week about it.
But - I confess, I'm ignorant beyond beleaf - what exactly is
alpha??? I reall don't understand that, and I also really don't
understand paint programs or PM for that matter that have a layer
called "clear". How about a little pontification on these two
things???
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why wont my NeXT recognize an app as an executable
Date: 27 Jan 1996 08:20:50 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-64.usc.edu
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References: <4ebi3e$299@saims.skidmore.edu>
In <4ebi3e$299@saims.skidmore.edu> Anthony Holland wrote:
> Can anyone tell me why one day a unix executable program is
suddenly NOT
> recognized by my NeXT computer as an executable ? Instead,
it opens the
> Edit App and try to read the file. How can I make the
computer recognize
> that its IS a binary/executable ?
>
> (ps I have not upgraded or made any changes....in recent
months)
Well, I'm sure you looked at the permissions and ownership just
to make sure they're correct.
--
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Multiple file uuencoding?
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:19:38 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960126131124.12742G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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On 26 Jan 1996, Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> Would this be some kind of sh or perl script?
No, this would be a one line post which doesn't really specify what you
want to do.
Are you looking to uuencode each file?
uuencode script script.uue 1>& script.uue
#!/bin/sh
for i in in `ls`
do
uuencode $i $i 1>& $i.uue
done
_should_ take each file in the directory and uuencode it into a file with
the same name but with a 'uue' extention... however, this is not very
good as there is no checking done for any type of problem (directories,
etc). However, maybe it is enough to give you a start? If not, drop me a
line.
TjL
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From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Subject: Re: DOS exe file down load cannot be saved to disk formatted with NSFIP 3.3
Message-ID: <DLu2sC.Fs@hurka.UUCP>
Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka)
Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.)
References: <4dvbo5$p36@saba.info.ucla.edu>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 09:38:36 GMT
In article <4dvbo5$p36@saba.info.ucla.edu> gq (G. Quinonez) writes:
> Ive been getting a message that reads:
>
> File error for /diamond/gtw.exe: Invalid argument
>
> Diamond is the name of the DOS formatted disk under NSFIP. I
> formatted this diskette with the workspace manager using initialize
> and named it Diamond. The file that I downloaded(using OmniWEB
> beta 2) from the net was a DOS executable file called GTW.EXE
> and initially opens as ascii file using Edit.app. Then I try
> to use "save as" from the Edit menu and try to save it to the
> diskette and I get the message as above.
Check that the name of your DOS executable GTW.EXE uses only lowercase
letters. So the correct name should be 'gtw.exe' . If you have any capital
letter in the name, NEXTSTEP cannot copy the file to the DOS formatted
disk or floppy disk and displays the error message you mentioned above.
I hope it helps you.
Best regards,
--
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From: btipping@ix.netcom.com (roybatty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTSTEP and Gateway Laptop
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 19:09:41 GMT
Organization: Daugherty Systems, Inc.
Message-ID: <4edinu$2aj@speedy.daugherty.com>
I have a Gateway S120 (120 Pentium, 24MB RAM, 1.2 GB, 256
PB-cache). Does anyone have any experience loading NeXTSTEP 3.3
on a Gateway? If so, what problems did you encounter? Thanks in
advance...
btipping@ix.netcom.com
From: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun OpenStep Beta & Colors ?
Date: 27 Jan 1996 18:41:47 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <4edrlb$biq@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <4dmlto$and@gateway.wiltel.com> <DLF86u.9n@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <960122183900.1188AACUO.malc@daneel> <4e12n0$3us@mimsy.cs.umd.edu>
Hi net!
seanl@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) wrote:
> I've noticed the same thing in reverse: namely, GIFs, TIFFs, etc. created
> on Macs or Sun boxes show up positively washed out on OmniWeb or OmniImage,
> etc.
The NeXTStep windowserver has a built-in gamma correction function set to a
factory default of (I think) 1.8. This can be changed through a dwrite,
although the change only takes effect in 24 bit colour mode (remapping the
colours used for 16 and 8 bit dithering would be rather tricky, I guess).
Would anyone be interested in a preferences panel module for this? Or, even
better, is there already such a thing?
ys
Alexander Wilkie
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From: "Robert D. Nielsen" <robert.nielsen@everest.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: pop3d
Date: 27 Jan 1996 23:20:48 GMT
Organization: TLGnet Inc., (formerly The Little Garden)
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To: ileslie@nmsu.edu,robert.nielsen@everest.com
Please let me know what you find out (and I will do the same for you).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de>
Subject: Re: Editor for HTML-Documents?
In-Reply-To: alex@zivserv.franken.de's message of Thu, 25 Jan 1996 00:26:42 GMT
Message-ID: <7xivhxxsn4.fsf@burrow.muc.de>
To: alex@zivserv.franken.de (Alexander Much)
Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de
Organization: hardly any...
References: <4e5733$5hc@hagen.amg.de> <DLpnwI.Bp0@zivserv.franken.de>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 20:57:35 GMT
>>>>> "AM" == Alexander Much <alex@zivserv.franken.de> writes:
AM> Andreas Seifert (andreass@down.amg.de.amg.de) wrote:
> is there a free or shareware editor for HTML-Documents for
> NeXT available?
AM> Try emacs with the html.el-extension. --
if you want to use Emacs (definitely the editor of my choice, though
for beginner hard to get used to) you better use html-helper-mode:
ftp://ftp.reed.edu/pub/src/html-helper-mode.tar.Z
hth,
markus g a/k/a the mole
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From: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
Subject: Problems compiling PGP 2.6.3i on NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1996Jan27.232156.25201@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Summary: How do I compile PGP 2.6.3i on NEXTSTEP 3.3 (black hardware)?
Organization: Goddes of the sunrise
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 23:21:56 GMT
Hi,
I just got the sources of the new version 2.6.3i of PGP and tried to
compile it under NEXTSTEP OS 3.3 (user + developer) on black hardware.
'make next' did everything perfectly fine until the final linker
directive: There, I got an error
[...]
cc -o pgp pgp.o crypto.o keymgmt.o fileio.o mdfile.o more.o
armor.o mpilib.o mpiio.o genprime.o rsagen.o random.o idea.o passwd.o
md5.o system.o language.o getopt.o keyadd.o config.o keymaint.o
charset.o randpool.o noise.o zbits.o zdeflate.o zfile_io.o zglobals.o
zinflate.o zip.o zipup.o ztrees.o zunzip.o rsaglue1.o
ld: Undefined symbols:
_strdup
*** Exit 1
This did not occur with PGP 2.6.2i. - Has anybody managed to
successfully compile PGP263i under NEXTSTEP 3.3 already? If so: How
did you do it?
Any help appreciated,
Ingmar
[Sorry to the folks reading this posting in English in
de.comp.sys.next - I was to lazy to write it twice... :) ]
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From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How can I make a gif or jpg image with a transparent background ?
Date: 28 Jan 1996 08:56:41 GMT
Organization: Academic and Research Network of Slovenia
Message-ID: <4efdo9$6qb@cmir.arnes.si>
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In <4ebcju$c58@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> weintz steven cortelou wrote:
> jacques.garbi@colombus.ch (Jacques Garbi) writes:
>
> >Hi,
>
> >For Web pages, I'd like to be able to convert Tiff images with alpha
> >(transparency) into gif or jpeg format but so they keep the original
> >transparency (so that behind, the body background is still visible).
>
> >Does anyone know how to do that on NS 3.3 for Intel ?
>
> >Thanks
>
> This would be a very convenient thing. For now, I composite the 'color to
> be transparent' as a solid color, convert the TIFF to GIF with Pixel
> Magician, then use 'giftrans' from the command line to make that color
> transparent.
Yeah, but where can one get the Magician?
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From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: IEEE 488 (GPIB)
Message-ID: <DLuEon.EL@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <4eb6nt$967@news.eecs.umich.edu>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 13:55:34 GMT
In article <4eb6nt$967@news.eecs.umich.edu> Roland Telfeyan
<telfeyan@umich.edu> writes:
> Does anyone know of an IEEE 488 card and driver that works with
NEXTSTEP?
There are two on
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/i486/ieee488:
KPC488Driver
============
The IEEE 488 interface, sometimes referred to as the General Purpose
Interface Bus (GPIB), is a system for transferring data between
devices. The interface is described in the document ``ANSI/IEEE Std
488.1-1987, IEEE Standard Digital Interface for Programmable
Instrumentation''. Important features of the IEEE 488 bus include:
- Up to 15 devices connected to one bus.
- Total bus length up to 20m.
- Data transfer rates up to 1 Mbyte/sec.
Driver Features
This is a simple, stripped-down, driver for the Keithley KPC488.2
IEEE-488 bus interface card. It also works with the National
Instruments GPIB-PCII/IIA card. It may work for other cards that use
the NEC mPD7210 chip.
Michael
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From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: Why wont my NeXT recognize an app as an executable
Message-ID: <DLuF3K.I0@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <4ebi3e$299@saims.skidmore.edu>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 14:04:32 GMT
In article <4ebi3e$299@saims.skidmore.edu>
tholland@dreams.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland) writes:
> Can anyone tell me why one day a unix executable program is
> suddenly NOT recognized by my NeXT computer as an executable ?
> Instead, it opens the Edit App and try to read the file.
Look at the permissions of the file (ls -l in a terminal window). It
should be rwxr-xr-x. The 'x' stands for executable.
If not, you can set the permissions with 'chmod' (take a look at the
man-file). You have to be root to do so.
If it is an application (filename.app), you have to check the
permissions of the executable in the app-folder
(filename.app/filename).
Michael
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Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.bbs.misc
From: Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG (Russell Schulz)
Subject: Re: Looking for BBS software for NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <960127.203941.5u1.rnr.w164w@locutus.ofB.ORG>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 20:39:41 -0700
References: <4e6dob$781@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com>
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
dsi@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (George Wu) writes:
> Does anyone know of any public domain BBS software that runs on NEXTSTEP ?
taking advantage of the NeXTstep interface? none that I know of, but
there are a handful of generic Unix front-ends. c.bbs.m should know.
--
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How can I make a gif or jpg image with a transparent background ?
Date: 28 Jan 1996 17:02:53 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-34.usc.edu
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<4efdo9$6qb@cmir.arnes.si>
In <4efdo9$6qb@cmir.arnes.si> Jonas Znidarsic wrote:
> Yeah, but where can one get the Magician?
Bcchus, Inc.
2210 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 330
Santa Monica, CA 90403-5784
Voice: 310/820-9145
Fax: 310/820-5930
E-mail: support@bacchus.com
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From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Subject: Re: [TIF,JPG]->GIF w/ alpha transparency
Message-ID: <DLvnEM.7wz@musical.fdn.org>
Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS (The Music Land)
References: <4ec9i6$66b@news4.digex.net>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 06:01:33 GMT
John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes
> I remember a while back someone posted, somewhere a tool that let
> you convert images into gif's with alpha. I searched the ftp sites
> and couldn't find it. Could someone please tell me where I might
> find it?
>
I found GIFTOOL able to convert GIF images in GIF with
transparency, contact support@homepages.com I don't remember the ftp site.
Sam
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From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Subject: Re: How can I make a gif or jpg image with a transparent background ?
Message-ID: <DLvnpo.7y4@musical.fdn.org>
Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS (The Music Land)
References: <4ead4v$9qc@news.petrel.ch>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 06:08:11 GMT
Jacques Garbi writes
> For Web pages, I'd like to be able to convert Tiff images with alpha
> (transparency) into gif or jpeg format but so they keep the original
> transparency (so that behind, the body background is still visible).
>
You have to convert tiff to gif with OmniImage
(info@omnigroup.com) filter and then use GIFTOOL (support@homepages.com)
to convert gif in gif with transparency.
Sam
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From: alberto@smartsoft.com (Alberto Ricart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFax for RISC
Date: 28 Jan 1996 19:30:02 GMT
Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. The Wisconsin ISP 414-476-4266 http://www.inc.net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4egirq$lrk@news.inc.net>
References: <4e5s4k$ndk@ftp.univie.ac.at>
They had an HP beta out several months ago. It worked fine with 3.2
however, 3.3 freezes the machine everytime you try to send a fax.
---
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SmartSoft, Inc.
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Cedarburg, WI 53012
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fax: 414 3764591
email: alberto@SmartSoft.COM
http://www.SmartSoft.COM
In article <4e5s4k$ndk@ftp.univie.ac.at> cikan@par.univie.ac.at (Edwin
CIKAN) writes:
>
> On 01/24/96, Kay Schulz wrote:
> >Hi
> >is there an idea of porting NXFax to Sun and or HP?
> >Please mail
> >
>
> Please post too ....
>
> I heard a while ago there is no plan yet, because of problems with the
serial
> interfaces on Sun and HP. I don't know if this is the reason, because
there was
> another information long time ago that there will be a port, at least to
Sun.
>
> Regards, Edwin.
>
> --
> Edwin CIKAN
> Systems Manager
>
> University of Vienna
> Department of Software Technology and Parallel Systems
> Liechtensteinstrasse 22
> A-1090 Vienna, Austria (EUROPE)
>
> e-mail: cikan@par.univie.ac.at (Internet)
> Tel.: +43 1 3105608-84
> Fax: +43 1 3105608-88
>
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SmartSoft, Inc.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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Return-Path: <flexus!rfschtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be>
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 96 18:00:15 +0100
From: Raf Schietekat <flexus!rfschtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be>
Message-ID: <9601281700.AA15298@flexus>
Subject: Re: NeXTTeX, and TeXview.app in particular
Dear NeXTTeX and TeXview.app users,
I have received several dozen replies (all positive!) to my question of
1996-11-30 about whether you would like a new release of TeXview.app, and I
thank you for that.
My sincere apologies for this late follow-up. I had hoped to make an
announcement, but I have still not obtained a license from NeXT to publish my
modifications to TeXview (though I am moderately optimistic about this). I
thought I had waited too long already, now that two months have passed.
Please note that I have recorded all bug reports you included. Sorry that I
have not yet answered any questions (exceptions notwithstanding); if you would
like me to, please ask them again and perhaps I will know the answer.
Also please note that you should not use the personal e-mail address I should
not have provided (my mistake): NeXT can be reached at Ask_NeXT@NeXT.com
instead.
*** Important ***
If you have an alpha copy of my modified TeXview.app, note that NeXT will most
likely not allow me to provide the source to this modified TeXview.app, and you
should therefore delete this source code. You should probably also delete all
your copies of my modified TeXview.app in compiled form, and wait for the
official release. If you have any other modified TeXview.app programs (with
which I had nothing to do), you should probably also delete them.
(I didn't think there would be any objections from NeXT about this either, as
long as any modifications remained NEXTSTEP-specific, but things are as they
are.)
Thank you for your interest,
Raf Schietekat, RfSchtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be (NeXTmail), Flanders, Belgium
If I don't answer: my mail relay can't handle !, % or .uucp, I think
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 29 Jan 1996 05:15:19 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4ehl57$e8t@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
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and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
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===========================================
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The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
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The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
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From: american@internetMCI.COM (Charles C. Hocker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [TIF,JPG]->GIF w/ alpha transparency
Date: 29 Jan 1996 06:04:27 GMT
Organization: InternetMCI
Message-ID: <4eho1b$8qq@news.internetmci.com>
References: <DLvnEM.7wz@musical.fdn.org> <4ec9i6$66b@news4.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <DLvnEM.7wz@musical.fdn.org>
On 01/27/96, Sam Przyswa wrote:
>John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes
>
>> I remember a while back someone posted, somewhere a tool that let
>> you convert images into gif's with alpha. I searched the ftp
sites
>> and couldn't find it. Could someone please tell me where I might
>> find it?
>>
> I found GIFTOOL able to convert GIF images in GIF with
>transparency, contact support@homepages.com I don't remember the
ftp site.
>
> Sam
>
>---
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~
> Sam Przyswa Rock'n Jazz BBS
> E-Mail: sam@musical.fdn.org Paris FidoNet: 2:320/102.1
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>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~
>
There is also giftrans. I downloaded the source from the following
site, made a few changes concerning the path of a needed file at it
compiled and works flawlessly:
http://melmac.corp.harris.com/transpartent_images.html
you also will need this file too:
ftp://ftp.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/pub/net/www/tools/rgb.txt
Although this programs run under shell and is not a "NeXTish"
program, it is handy to have.
Charles
--
Charles C. Hocker War is Peace
american@internetMCI.COM Freedom is Slavery
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ASCII, MIME & NeXTmail (preferred) George Orwell's 1984
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How can I make a gif or jpg image with a transparent background ?
Date: 29 Jan 1996 06:09:59 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ehobn$rfn@news4.digex.net>
References: <4ead4v$9qc@news.petrel.ch> <DLvnpo.7y4@musical.fdn.org>
sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa) wrote:
> Jacques Garbi writes
> > For Web pages, I'd like to be able to convert Tiff images with
> > alpha (transparency) into gif or jpeg format but so they keep
> > the original transparency (so that behind, the body background
> > is still visible).
> >
> You have to convert tiff to gif with OmniImage
> (info@omnigroup.com) filter and then use GIFTOOL
> (support@homepages.com) to convert gif in gif with
> transparency.
Yes, or one can use giftrans...but the point is, it would be nice
to go from .tiff straight to .gif w/ alpha... Or better yet, from
Xformat, to .gif w/ alpha.
I wish someone would put this into their image filter software.
I'd even be willing to shell out $150 to the Baccus folks if they
would integrate such a thing into PixelMagcian...
The idea is to use their batch convert utility to take a ton of
images (mostly tiffs) and to convert them in one shot to interlaced
alpha gifs...
--
Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: v22osprey@aol.com (V22Osprey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unix "cut" command for NeXT?
Date: 29 Jan 1996 02:02:30 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <4ehre6$akv@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <4dokbb$gfi@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
Please post it for the rest of us.
Thanks
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [TIF,JPG]->GIF w/ alpha transparency
Date: 29 Jan 1996 08:06:30 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-36.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4ehv66$50u@usc.edu>
References: <DLvnEM.7wz@musical.fdn.org> <4ec9i6$66b@news4.digex.net>
<4eho1b$8qq@news.internetmci.com>
Would someone be willing to NeXTMail me binaries of GIFTOOL and
giftrans for m68k? I would then thank you very much.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
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From: dave@gecko.fb6.fhtw-berlin.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTTeX, and TeXview.app in particular
Date: 29 Jan 1996 09:52:27 GMT
Organization: Fachhochschule fuer Technik und Wirtschaft Berlin, FB1
Message-ID: <4ei5cr$ava@commserv.fb1.fhtw-berlin.de>
References: <9601281700.AA15298@flexus>
In article <9601281700.AA15298@flexus>, you wrote:
(...)
Why don't you make an patch to the original sources? This patch would be free
of NeXTs and Tom R's copyrights. You could distribute your code as you want.
-----
David Wetzel dave@next.fb6.fhtw-berlin.de (work)
dave@turbocat.snafu.de (home)
From: hfranz@acds02.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Holger Franz )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems compiling PGP 2.6.3i on NEXTSTEP
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 29 Jan 1996 09:25:17 GMT
Organization: RWTH -Aachen / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik
Message-ID: <HFRANZ.96Jan29102517@acds02.physik.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <1996Jan27.232156.25201@aurora.in-berlin.de>
In-reply-to: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de's message of Sat, 27 Jan 1996 23:21:56 GMT
Encoding: Text
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>> "Ingmar" == Ingmar Camphausen <ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de> writes:
Ingmar> Hi, I just got the sources of the new version 2.6.3i of PGP
Ingmar> and tried to compile it under NEXTSTEP OS 3.3 (user +
Ingmar> developer) on black hardware. 'make next' did everything
Ingmar> perfectly fine until the final linker directive: There, I got
Ingmar> an error
Ingmar> [...] cc -o pgp pgp.o crypto.o keymgmt.o fileio.o mdfile.o
Ingmar> more.o armor.o mpilib.o mpiio.o genprime.o rsagen.o random.o
Ingmar> idea.o passwd.o md5.o system.o language.o getopt.o keyadd.o
Ingmar> config.o keymaint.o charset.o randpool.o noise.o zbits.o
Ingmar> zdeflate.o zfile_io.o zglobals.o zinflate.o zip.o zipup.o
Ingmar> ztrees.o zunzip.o rsaglue1.o ld: Undefined symbols: _strdup
Ingmar> *** Exit 1
Ingmar> This did not occur with PGP 2.6.2i. - Has anybody managed to
Ingmar> successfully compile PGP263i under NEXTSTEP 3.3 already? If
Ingmar> so: How did you do it?
Ingmar> Any help appreciated,
Ingmar> Ingmar
Hello Ingmar,
the function strdup is not defined in BSD flavoured unixes. I have run
into the same problem with ULTRIX. I complained about this bug to
Stale Schumacher and received the following pointer to a web page
describing the known bugs in pgp 2.6.3i and the necessary steps to
eliminate them.
Stale> See: http://www.ifi.uio.no/pgp/bugs.shtml
Holger
- --
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.3i
Charset: noconv
Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.3, an Emacs/PGP interface
iQCVAgUBMQySZf0SfNQJJ0UdAQF9oAQA1P+UCaY843z2IHCac0wz/6JKqRiWC1At
3fJc7lbo3f0Ngs5IiDMFlOYlBbveh85xhOQTq5zzjoPkL+z1g5ElAQhVU6vfBv5O
/2//Q5Sc9tPKH5ef4so1CCgSxhzP5dW0kJddXBEsp/3/MtMhfluTQ9gi33gDiarP
LR9yMUyFcN4=
=ardK
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
--
<| Holger Franz <hfranz@physik.rwth-aachen.de> |>
From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IEEE 488 (GPIB)
Date: 29 Jan 1996 15:06:35 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <4einpr$4ah@tribune.usask.ca>
References: <4eb6nt$967@news.eecs.umich.edu> <DLuEon.EL@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
I am author of the NeXTSTEP IEEE-488 drivers.
I strongly recommend that anyone interested in working with IEEE-488 on
NeXSTEP/Intel *not* use the old driver (version 0.9). The only reason you
might want to use this version is if you are stuck with an interface card
that uses the NEC 7210 chip. I haven't been doing anything with this driver
for quite some time.
The new driver (IEEE488Driver1.0.src.tar.gz) is much improved:
- Works with a National Instruments GPIB-PCII/IIA card. This
card provides a number of features that make the driver quite a
bit more efficient.
- Driver works with NeXTSTEP 3.3.
- Comes with some basic IEEE488 device classes ready to add to
your application.
- Source placed under RCS so you can see all the changes that have
been made.
--
Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca
Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory Phone: (306) 966-6308
University of Saskatchewan FAX: (306) 966-6058
Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,
Subject: When NS 4.0 ?
Date: 29 Jan 1996 17:21:44 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
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Hello,
Are there any indications, information, etc as to when NEXTSTEP (or
OPENSTEP) 4.0 will be released ?
Best Regards,
Amir
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From: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
Subject: cmsg cancel <1996Jan27.232156.25201@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <1996Jan29.175242.13232@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Organization: Goddes of the sunrise
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:52:42 GMT
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Q. What machine does Windows 95 run best on?
A. A 35 mm slide projector.
Newsgroups: alt.security.pgp,comp.sys.next.software
From: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
Subject: Problems compiling PGP 2.6.3i on NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <1996Jan29.185557.13818@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Summary: How do I compile PGP 2.6.3i on NEXTSTEP 3.3 (black hardware)?
Organization: Goddes of the sunrise
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:55:57 GMT
Hi,
two days ago, I asked:
> I just got the sources of the new version 2.6.3i of PGP and tried to
> compile it under NEXTSTEP OS 3.3 (user + developer) on black hardware.
> 'make next' did everything perfectly fine until the final linker
> directive: There, I got an error
>
> [...]
> cc -o pgp pgp.o crypto.o keymgmt.o fileio.o mdfile.o more.o
> armor.o mpilib.o mpiio.o genprime.o rsagen.o random.o idea.o passwd.o
> md5.o system.o language.o getopt.o keyadd.o config.o keymaint.o
> charset.o randpool.o noise.o zbits.o zdeflate.o zfile_io.o zglobals.o
> zinflate.o zip.o zipup.o ztrees.o zunzip.o rsaglue1.o
> ld: Undefined symbols:
> _strdup
> *** Exit 1
>
> This did not occur with PGP 2.6.2i. - Has anybody managed to
> successfully compile PGP263i under NEXTSTEP 3.3 already? If so: How
> did you do it?
>
> Any help appreciated,
Here's a quick hack to circumvent this problem: Just add the line
#define strdup(s) NXCopyStringBuffer(s)
to the file ../src/pgp.c and then 'make next' - it works! :)
I'll notify the author of the international version, Stale Schumacher,
in order to get this fixed in the next release...
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Q. What machine does Windows 95 run best on?
A. A 35 mm slide projector.
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTTeX, and TeXview.app in particular
Date: 29 Jan 1996 18:46:17 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <4ej4lp$8mp@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <9601281700.AA15298@flexus>
Raf Schietekat (flexus!rfschtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be) wrote:
: Dear NeXTTeX and TeXview.app users,
: I have received several dozen replies (all positive!) to my question of
: 1996-11-30 about whether you would like a new release of TeXview.app, and I
: thank you for that.
: My sincere apologies for this late follow-up. I had hoped to make an
: announcement, but I have still not obtained a license from NeXT to
: publish my modifications to TeXview (though I am moderately optimistic
: about this). I thought I had waited too long already, now that two
: months have passed.
Ok, to round this up: In the last months, there were several requests
on LaTeX2e for NEXTSTEP in these groups.
First of all, the new LaTeX2e deserves a recent TeX release that adds
support for a decent, standard subdirectory structure for macro
packages, fonts et al. Karl Berry's unixtex distribution (aka web2c)
supports this with his kpathsearch library. His web2c, dvipsk etc. are
the defacto TeX standard for Unix.
But then, kpathsearch is GPL (`GNU') software, i.e. it must not be
merged with code that is not freely available. We thought this would
be no problem with TeXview.app, since TeXview's source is kind of
freely available (for NEXTSTEP users on the NEXTSTEP CD), but we had
to learn from NeXT that publishing of modified versions is illegal!
Therefore, I am forbidden to publish my version of TeXview,
incorporating kpathsearch, either in source or in binary form
(according to NeXT's licence). I'm also not allowed to publish my
modifications only, so the you could merge and compile it yourself,
since this is disallowed by the GPL (TeXview's source is not
free!). [Even worse, strictly spoken, developement of this was illegal,
according to the GPL.]
Well, the situation will change with the release of web2c-7.0, which
is now in a pretest. For 7.0, kpathsearch will be LGPL (GNU library
license), which allows linking of LGPL software against `non-free'
software (here: TeXview). Nevertheless, since my work incorporated a
few changes to TeXview source, I'm still not sure if I'm allowed to
distribute diffs against NeXT's source.
As you see, users of copyrighted software may run into serious
problems when the copyright holder decided to cease support. That's
why the GPL and copy_lefted_ software were invented.
Make up your own mind who behaves crazy in this case. If I were NeXT,
I could see no reason why we shouldn't even give TeXview's source into
the GPL...
Anyway, this way, NeXTTeX users will have to wait only a few more
months for another small enhancement. I for me have finally decided
that it would be much better to put efforts in a new OpenStep
DVIview.app. Maybe I can sell it to NeXT ? ;-) Maybe you really want
to ask them at Ask_NeXT@next.com!
Gregor
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From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Sun OpenStep Beta & Colors ?
Message-ID: <DLyqwo.DzL@sounds.wa.com>
Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA
References: <4dmlto$and@gateway.wiltel.com> <960122183900.1188AACUO.malc@daneel> <4e12n0$3us@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <4edrlb$biq@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 22:09:59 GMT
In article <4edrlb$biq@news.tuwien.ac.at>,
Alexander Wilkie <wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
>The NeXTStep windowserver has a built-in gamma correction function set to a
>factory default of (I think) 1.8. This can be changed through a dwrite,
>although the change only takes effect in 24 bit colour mode (remapping the
>colours used for 16 and 8 bit dithering would be rather tricky, I guess).
It actually does work in 16 and 8 bit modes too, but I see why one might
think that it wouldn't.
The 16 and 8 bit modes are palette-mapped. If an arbitrary palette were
used, then this might present a problem with both gamma and dithering
computations. NEXTSTEP uses the palette maps to simulate a three channel
RGB system without a palette, thus the 555 and 222 modes which operate
similarly to the 888 (24 bit) mode. (As far as I can tell, NEXTSTEP's
256/8 mode should be called 222/8.) Once you have a pseudo three-channel
system, it makes gamma correction and dithering operations the same as
they are in true color - except with really low quality DACs ;-)
>Would anyone be interested in a preferences panel module for this? Or, even
>better, is there already such a thing?
Well, it's not a Preferences panel module, but I have written a program,
Calibration.app, which handles this. It allows real-time adjustment of
the gamma correction so that you can see the results before you save them
in the database. Once the settings are saved, future reboots and/or
restarts of the Window Server will use the gamma correction values even
if Calibration is not running. You can also use Calibration to
temporarily change the gamma correction for viewing of specific images,
and then restore the gamma correction to the current boot defaults
without restarting the Window Server.
The program has the option to show the correction curves in a graph,
with pure color bars to aid in calibration.
This product was created in 1992, and has been revised several times
since then. Version 3.5 is currently shipping.
Version 4.0 is close to shipping, with new features for more advanced
curves which hope to correct the problems that many people are having
with the red channel output being particularly weak.
Please contact me for pricing and shipping information.
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From: gregf@galileo.mel.dbce.csiro.au (Greg C. Foliente)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How can I make a gif or jpg image with a transparent background ?
Date: 29 Jan 1996 23:11:19 GMT
Organization: C.S.I.R.O Australia
Message-ID: <4ejk6n$jrs@hercules.its.csiro.au>
References: <4ehobn$rfn@news4.digex.net>
In article <4ehobn$rfn@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
writes:
#sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa) wrote:
#> Jacques Garbi writes
#> > For Web pages, I'd like to be able to convert Tiff images with
#> > alpha (transparency) into gif or jpeg format but so they keep
#> > the original transparency (so that behind, the body background
#> > is still visible).
#> >
#> You have to convert tiff to gif with OmniImage
#> (info@omnigroup.com) filter and then use GIFTOOL
#> (support@homepages.com) to convert gif in gif with
#> transparency.
#
#Yes, or one can use giftrans...but the point is, it would be nice
#to go from .tiff straight to .gif w/ alpha... Or better yet, from
#Xformat, to .gif w/ alpha.
#
#I wish someone would put this into their image filter software.
#I'd even be willing to shell out $150 to the Baccus folks if they
#would integrate such a thing into PixelMagcian...
#
#The idea is to use their batch convert utility to take a ton of
#images (mostly tiffs) and to convert them in one shot to interlaced
#alpha gifs...
#
#--
#Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
#
I completely concur with John. I need the same facility and will be
willing to pay for it (Bacchus are you listening?)
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From: yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu (Hiro Yoshida)
Subject: [Q] How to transparently access remote files by Edit
Message-ID: <DLz2DF.FnI@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 02:17:39 GMT
Hello,
Is there a way that provides transparent access to a file located on a
remote machine using Edit?
More specifically, I would like to edit files distributed on several
machines by Edit running on my local machine. An obvious solution is to
use NFS and mount the directories on which these files are located.
However, the machines I have access do not allow me to
mount the home directories to my machine. (It allows rsh access, though.)
I guess there might be a macro for User Command Dictionary (.commanddict)
that
reads in a remote file using rsh, edit it, and write it back, for
example. I would like to find a way to do a similar thing as
transparently as possible, without paying much attention to the
place where the file is actually located.
Any suggestions are welcome. I would appreciate it if you would e-mail me
directly, because I do not check this newsgoup so often.
_________________________________________________________
Hiro Yoshida, Ph.D.
Department of Radiology, The University of Chicago, MC2026
5841 South Maryland Avenue, Chicago Illinois 60637
yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu
_____________________________________.oOO--(_)--OOo._____
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unix "cut" command for NeXT?
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:20:05 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960129151919.11443D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4dokbb$gfi@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov> <4ehre6$akv@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
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On 29 Jan 1996, V22Osprey wrote:
> Please post it for the rest of us.
ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu:pub/gnu
therein get the 'textutils' package and you'll get a GNU version of 'cut'
TjL
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] How to transparently access remote files by Edit
Date: 30 Jan 1996 02:48:49 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-24.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4ek0uh$m0@usc.edu>
References: <DLz2DF.FnI@midway.uchicago.edu>
In <DLz2DF.FnI@midway.uchicago.edu> Hiro Yoshida wrote:
> Any suggestions are welcome. I would appreciate it if you
would e-mail me
> directly, because I do not check this newsgoup so often.
But post copy of solution here, thank you.
---
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MMV - m68k binary??
Date: 30 Jan 1996 08:50:51 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-12.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4ekm5b$cje@usc.edu>
Would someone have mmv as a m68k binary they'd be willing to
NeXTMAIL me? I was on the phone and reordering some files
and..... oh well.
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How about Perl 5 compiled for m68k NS3.3???
Date: 30 Jan 1996 09:00:34 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-12.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4ekmni$f8i@usc.edu>
Doesn't hurt to ask, esp. when you can't do it yourself.
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From: bernhard@pluto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Bernhard Mayr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: doom -sound
Date: 30 Jan 1996 10:22:38 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <4ekrhe$6q2@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Can anybody tell me how to activate the sound in the DOOM 1.2 shareware
version (black hardware).
Thanks,
Bernhard Mayr
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,
Subject: Re: When NS 4.0 ?
Date: 29 Jan 1996 22:25:06 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4ejhg2$hoh@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4eivn8$1l2@news.nd.edu>
Amir Sanjari <ahs@undhep.hep.nd.edu> wrote:
> Hello,
> Are there any indications, information, etc as to when
> NEXTSTEP (or OPENSTEP) 4.0 will be released ?
Current prediction is 2cd Quarter of 1996.
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Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Try to upgrade PixelMagician (Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?)
Date: 29 Jan 1996 22:24:05 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4ejhe5$hoh@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <4ebcbk$bt6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4eca2h$66b@news4.digex.net>
John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
> indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) wrote:
> > I so testify. To see what PixelMagician can do for Web graphics,
> > I modestly offer this URL: http://www.melvin.com/
>
> > Every graphic in all 11 issues was processed with PM, very
> > often yielding extraordinary compression and good looks. Baachus
> > did a great job; I wish the market was bigger, to encourage
> > thme to continue development.
>
> Speaking of which, PM does everything but save gifs with alpha.
> Maybe if we could start a list of people willing to pay $50bux
> for them to upgrade it, they might do it.
>
> I'll start with my vote :)
I'd upgrade my copies. I've been happy with PixelMagician, but
would like to see it support some more formats. PNG support would
be another one I'd like to see.
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Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: marco@sentenext1.epfl.ch (Marco Scheurer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for info about VIVA
Date: 30 Jan 1996 12:50:19 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
Message-ID: <4el46b$bsm@info.epfl.ch>
Hi,
I am looking for information about a software package for NEXTSTEP called
Viva. I believe it was developed in Germany.
---
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Sen:te
Parc Scientifique EPFL -- CH-1015 Lausanne -- Switzerland
marco@sente.epfl.ch (NeXT, MIME mail welcome)
From: neuss@sun39 (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Try to upgrade PixelMagician (Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?)
Date: 30 Jan 1996 13:29:32 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Systemarchitektur, TH Darmstadt, Germany
Message-ID: <4el6fs$dm4@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <4ebcbk$bt6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4eca2h$66b@news4.digex.net>
John Kheit (jkheit@cnj.digex.net) wrote:
: Speaking of which, PM does everything but save gifs with alpha.
: Maybe if we could start a list of people willing to pay $50bux for
: them to upgrade it, they might do it.
: I'll start with my vote :)
Make that two.. in fact, I think unless they fix it, I'm not going
to buy PM - like probably many other users out there, I am looking
for a conversion from Tiff to GIF which preserves alpha. A PostScript
to Tiff/GIF conversion of course would be nice too. :-)
Using the public domain ppm utilities has one major drawback, ppm does
not support the notion of an alpha channel.
If, however, PM is basically a graphical userinterface around ppm (looks
a bit like it), then they and we are out of luck. Does anybody else have
an alternative? Somebody mentioned a "epstotiff" tool. I know there is
a graphical app available as demo from next, but most people probably
need a cmd line tool for bulk processing. Does anybody know more?
Chris
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From: petitmermet@biocomp.mat.ethz.ch (Marc Petitmermet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: postscript filter/utility
Date: 30 Jan 1996 14:47:00 GMT
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ)
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Distribution: world
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I am looking for a utility for NEXTSTEP, MacOS, IRIX (SGI) or Solaris
(Motif) to reduce the size of the printed output from postscript files
to 71%:
original postscript file (100%) -utility/filter-> new postscript file
(71%)
Thanks for any hint.
Marc
M. Petitmermet
petitmermet@biocomp.mat.ethz.ch
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] How to transparently access remote files by Edit
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 10:46:19 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960130104111.2562A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Hiro Yoshida wrote:
> Is there a way that provides transparent access to a file located on a
> remote machine using Edit?
>
> More specifically, I would like to edit files distributed on several
> machines by Edit running on my local machine. An obvious solution is to
> use NFS and mount the directories on which these files are located.
> However, the machines I have access do not allow me to
> mount the home directories to my machine. (It allows rsh access, though.)
>
> I guess there might be a macro for User Command Dictionary (.commanddict)
> that reads in a remote file using rsh, edit it, and write it back, for
> example. I would like to find a way to do a similar thing as
> transparently as possible, without paying much attention to the
> place where the file is actually located.
from peanuts.leo.org:
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/filetransfer/RBrowser.0.972.NIHS.b.tar.gz
It isn't perfect, but it is currently free. It will instruct you on how
to create a new version of Edit.app which will work properly for doing
just this. It is a great tool (the only problem I seem to have with it
is when I use it with a user whose login shell is 'zsh' but I can't
figure out why exactly and others claim it works for them OK)
> Any suggestions are welcome. I would appreciate it if you would e-mail me
> directly, because I do not check this newsgoup so often.
> Hiro Yoshida, Ph.D.
> yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu
I've emailed directly as well as posted for the general edification of
all who read this group regularly.
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From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help! TeXView refuses to let me see bottom inch of page!
Date: 30 Jan 1996 22:53:49 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4em7ht$88s@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
This morning I waas playing around with 2up.sty, and managed to get
TeXView to show me two pages to a page, an dprint them to.
Well, now it's afternoon, and I have since turned off and on my computer.
I am no longer working with a file with 2up.sty, but TeXView is
now refusing to let me see the bottom inch of my pages on ANY 1-up document
--- that I have previewed 100's of times before.
What is wrong? What can I do to get TeXView to act normally?
Lones
PS This is a new bug.
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From: wombat@smartt.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to "repackage" NeXT packages from single-user (command line) mode?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 17:20:31 -0800
Organization: KTK Commmunications Ltd. (SmarttNet)
Message-ID: <310EC3DF.2907@smartt.com>
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Hello,
How would one "repackage" a .pkg from single-user mode? That is, I want
to put all the installed components of an application back into a
.pkg. Presumably there is a way to accomplish this using the files in
the "receipts" directory?
Thanks,
Shea Phillips
wombat@smartt.com
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Try to upgrade PixelMagician (Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?)
Date: 31 Jan 1996 03:59:28 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4empf0$7n@news4.digex.net>
References: <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <4ebcbk$bt6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4eca2h$66b@news4.digex.net> <4el6fs$dm4@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
neuss@sun39 (Christian Neuss) wrote:
> John Kheit (jkheit@cnj.digex.net) wrote: : Speaking of which,
> PM does everything but save gifs with alpha. : Maybe if we could
> start a list of people willing to pay $50bux for : them to upgrade
> it, they might do it.
> : I'll start with my vote :)
> Make that two.. in fact, I think unless they fix it, I'm not
> going to buy
> If, however, PM is basically a graphical userinterface around
> ppm (looks a bit like it), then they and we are out of luck. Does
> anybody else have an alternative? Somebody mentioned a "epstotiff"
> tool. I know there is a graphical app available as demo from
> next, but most people probably need a cmd line tool for bulk
> processing. Does anybody know more?
Well the folks at Baccus do have a solution...if they will integrate
it into PM is another question. I've gotten some mail that says,
in effect, if there are enough people that commit to it, they might
do it...
So, I guess, a bunch of me too's here, or probably better yet,
email to them saying so might get the update we all want.
As in all elections, the true voting is done w/ the pocketbook (sigh).
--
Thanks, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to "repackage" NeXT packages from single-user (command line) mode?
Date: 31 Jan 1996 04:37:11 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-63.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4emrln$27t@usc.edu>
References: <310EC3DF.2907@smartt.com>
In <310EC3DF.2907@smartt.com> wombat@smartt.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> How would one "repackage" a .pkg from single-user mode? That
is, I want
> to put all the installed components of an application back into
a
> .pkg. Presumably there is a way to accomplish this using the
files in
> the "receipts" directory?
I believe it's as simple as starting up the Installer.app, select
the package in /NeXTLibary/Receipts/ and choose "Compress".
--
Be well,
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Try to upgrade PixelMagician (Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?)
Date: 31 Jan 1996 04:40:34 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-63.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4emrs2$27t@usc.edu>
References: <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
<4ebcbk$bt6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4eca2h$66b@news4.digex.net>
<4el6fs$dm4@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <4empf0$7n@news4.digex.net>
In <4empf0$7n@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote:
> neuss@sun39 (Christian Neuss) wrote:
> > John Kheit (jkheit@cnj.digex.net) wrote: : Speaking of
which,
> > If, however, PM is basically a graphical userinterface around
> > ppm (looks a bit like it), then they and we are out of luck.
Does
> > anybody else have an alternative? Somebody mentioned a
"epstotiff"
> > tool. I know there is a graphical app available as demo from
> > next, but most people probably need a cmd line tool for bulk
> > processing. Does anybody know more?
Why would the "ppm" thing bring everything to a standstill??
Also, one can do mass conversion with PM, so there isn't really a
need to go to commandline.
> Well the folks at Baccus do have a solution...if they will
integrate
> it into PM is another question. I've gotten some mail that
says,
> in effect, if there are enough people that commit to it, they
might
> do it...
>
> So, I guess, a bunch of me too's here, or probably better yet,
> email to them saying so might get the update we all want.
I'm forwarding this post to PM people along with my written
desire.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
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From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Subject: Re: DOS-emulators for NeXTStep
Message-ID: <DM0zLn.1Bu@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN
References: <DLDJxJ.Erp@isltd.insignia.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 03:12:58 GMT
In article <DLDJxJ.Erp@isltd.insignia.com> ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
writes:
: As a final trick (which may be undocumented) if you start SoftPC from
: the command line (/LocalApps/SoftPC/SoftPC) you can give it a -c
: argument which executes the command line eg:.
:
: /LocalApps/SoftPC/SoftPC -NXOpen MyDisk.hdf -c "dir c:\insigia"
:
: Throw in some "net use" commands to specify Unix directories, and you
: can get quite a bit done (we use this for our build process). Commands
: may be seperated by a ;. Also if you start it from the command line
: rather than the UI you can have multiple copies running.
:
:
: Starting stuff in Windows isn't currently supported. It's one of the big
: things on the wish list to be able to double click on files in File
: Viewer and have them opened in Windows apps. I've got a good idea how do
: do it, so it might make it into any future versions.
I really appreciate if these things could be done in the
SoftPC service menu (if any) just like Terminal.app provides in
the Idle Window. Then we could make Dos/Windoze apps to do a
good job :). For example, we might be able to consult American
Heritage Talking Dictionary in any NEXT apps by
command-somekey.
---
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hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB)
From: ir003093@interramp.com (Eric Bloom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Try to upgrade PixelMagician
Date: 31 Jan 1996 06:15:27 GMT
Organization: Bacchus, Inc.
Message-ID: <4en1dv$bqm@usenet6.interramp.com>
References: <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <4ebcbk$bt6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4eca2h$66b@news4.digex.net> <4el6fs$dm4@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
neuss@sun39 (Christian Neuss) wrote:
> John Kheit (jkheit@cnj.digex.net) wrote:
> : Speaking of which, PM does everything but save gifs with alpha.
> : Maybe if we could start a list of people willing to pay $50bux for
> : them to upgrade it, they might do it.
> : I'll start with my vote :)
> Make that two.. in fact, I think unless they fix it, I'm not going
> to buy PM - like probably many other users out there, I am looking
> for a conversion from Tiff to GIF which preserves alpha. A PostScript
> to Tiff/GIF conversion of course would be nice too. :-)
> Using the public domain ppm utilities has one major drawback, ppm does
> not support the notion of an alpha channel.
> If, however, PM is basically a graphical userinterface around ppm (looks
> a bit like it), then they and we are out of luck. Does anybody else have
> an alternative? Somebody mentioned a "epstotiff" tool. I know there is
> a graphical app available as demo from next, but most people probably
> need a cmd line tool for bulk processing. Does anybody know more?
> Chris
> --
> // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.."
> // neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
> // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
> // +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
The current version of Pixel Magician, 1.4e, handles/preserves alpha
channel data for most formats, e.g., PS, TIFF, TGA, PICT, but does not
preserve/map the alpha data when saving to GIF. We have written some stand
alone programs which specifically convert NEXTSTEP TIFF images, with alpha,
into transparent GIF images. Partially transparent pixels, found in the
source TIFF, are stripped, 100% transparent pixels will automatically be
mapped to transparent background in the GIF image.
Since there appears to be some demand for this functionality, we will look
into integrating transparent GIF support in the next release.
Eric Bloom
Bacchus, Inc.
info@bacchus.com
From: hkhenson@shell.portal.com (H Keith Henson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Odd memory problem
Date: 31 Jan 1996 07:44:38 GMT
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4en6l6$8p0@news1.shell>
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.next.programmer ]
[ Author was H Keith Henson ]
[ Posted on 30 Jan 1996 19:00:46 -0800 ]
We are having an odd problem with some code. This is an app
which eats a lot of memory space, hundreds of meg at the
moment. Our problem is that after a considerable amount of
activity (typically tens of minutes of near 100% processer
time) the app breaks on trying to access memory which the
OS does not think belongs to it. By tracing on the virtual
memory release, and logging this data we can tell that our
app has *not* returned the memory block which is causing
the problem to the system. Somehow the OS has lost track
of this memory belonging to the process. (Or such is my
speculation.) While the problem is sort of reproduceable,
the place where it breaks is not consistent--it is random
over a wide range, with something on the order of a 0.5%
chance of failing on a cycle.
Your thoughts on this problem would be appreciated. We
are using GDB. I have not yet tried to figure out how
to look at the memory at some other level to see if the
contents got stomped on.
I know somewhat more about the way unix memory management
works. It was a little surprising that mach permits
"allocating" much larger amount of memory space than the
physical and/or available disk.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Keith Henson
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Try to upgrade PixelMagician (Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?)
Date: 31 Jan 1996 02:49:50 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4emlce$f7i@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <4ebcbk$bt6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4eca2h$66b@news4.digex.net> <4el6fs$dm4@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
neuss@sun39 (Christian Neuss) wrote:
> Using the public domain ppm utilities has one major drawback,
> ppm does not support the notion of an alpha channel.
>
> If, however, PM is basically a graphical userinterface around
> ppm (looks a bit like it), then they and we are out of luck.
No, they and we are not.
They started with the ppm (pbm?) utilities, and then rewrote
them to keep track of the alpha channel, among other things.
We just need support for a few more formats...
---
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ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
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From: Aleksey Sudakov <zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 96 12:45:14 +0300
Subject: SLIP for Intel is there such a beast?
Hello,
I want to setup my university white NS 3.3 to answer incoming SLIP
connections. Yes I know about ppp, but I want have SLIP as well.
Unfortunately, all I could find so far is SLIP.920904-A.N.b.tar.gz
from TransSys, Inc. which is a binary distribution for black boxes.
Thus the question is "Is there public domain SLIP package for Intel
hardware?"
Yes, if the beast exists any help on setting it up will be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Aleksey
_________________________________________________________________
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Moscow 113303,Russia.
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From: erbalch@aol.com (ERBalch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with SimpleInterNeXTStarter
Date: 31 Jan 1996 09:35:25 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <4enund$nff@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
I was curious if anyone out there can give me some insight on using the
SimpleInterNeXTStarter App... Well actualy it is not exactly using the
App that I need help with, it seems prety, well, simple.
The help says I need to have PPP-2.2, Perl.pkg, and CF.pkg installed on my
system before I can use the App. Well PPP-2.2 is not a problem, I have a
copy of that on the same CD-ROM I got the App off.
The problem is, where to find:
A) Perl.pkg: If it is ok to use Perl5 I know I can get that off the
NeXT-ftp sight at cs.orst or whatever they call it now ;) Is this version
of Perl OK to use? If not, where can I find the correct version?
B) CF.pkg: First, what the hell is CF anyway? Second, where can I get
this?
Lastly, if anyone else has used the App (SimpleInterNeXTStarter), do you
have any advice to give.
Thankx, any and ALL help is welcomed! Post here or E-Mail direct to
erbalch@aol.com.
From: smbakh@milind (Milind Bakhle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] How to transparently access remote files by Edit
Date: 31 Jan 1996 15:46:25 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Message-ID: <4eo2sh$nra@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960130104111.2562A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu) wrote:
: It will instruct you on how
: to create a new version of Edit.app which will work properly for doing
: just this.
:
I believe that you need to modify Edit.app under NS 3.2 using
the fixedit.sh provided with RBrowser. You can then copy this
modified Edit.app and use it under NS 3.3.
Please correct me if this info is wrong.
--
Milind A. Bakhle
bakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
From: strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: postscript filter/utility
Date: 31 Jan 1996 17:47:41 GMT
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Distribution: world
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References: <4elb14$kt5@elna.ethz.ch>
In-reply-to: petitmermet@biocomp.mat.ethz.ch's message of 30 Jan 1996 14:47:00
GMT
Wie waere es mit
0.71 0.71 scale
im Setup des Dokuments?
Ciao, Stephan
p.s. wenn das zu umstaendlich ist, dann eben per perl/awk/sed skript
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: How to "repackage" NeXT packages from single-user (command line) mode?
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (system PRIVILEGED account)
Message-ID: <DM1y80.Aqu@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 15:40:48 GMT
References: <310EC3DF.2907@smartt.com> <4emrln$27t@usc.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4emrln$27t@usc.edu>,
Matthew N. Reichman <reichman@scf.usc.edu> wrote:
>In <310EC3DF.2907@smartt.com> wombat@smartt.com wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> How would one "repackage" a .pkg from single-user mode? That
>is, I want
>> to put all the installed components of an application back into
>a
>> .pkg. Presumably there is a way to accomplish this using the
>files in
>> the "receipts" directory?
>
>I believe it's as simple as starting up the Installer.app, select
>the package in /NeXTLibary/Receipts/ and choose "Compress".
>
That works, but not too well from single-user mode.
You could spelunk around in Installer.app's wrapper and see if it has some
scripts that it runs to do the "Compress"ing. Failing that you'll likely have
to do it yourself.
--
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Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
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Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Dmichael@rumah.rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: uucp addresses
Date: 31 Jan 1996 09:17:36 GMT
Organization: Unconfigured
Message-ID: <4enc3g$cbd@jaring.my>
I am using a dial up line to a local internet service provider. Mail is sent
by uucp. In order for my NS to understand the address of outgoing mail, I
must use UUCP format since it only knows about one host. For example, to send
to abc@xxx.edu through the local myhost, I use: myhost!xxx.edu!abc
Can anybody tell me how to config so I can use the normal form and have
everything sent through myhost? I know there's some translation stuff, but I
don't understand it.
From: Chris Paris <cap+@cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FSF emacs crashing and locking up
Date: 31 Jan 1996 15:20:35 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon School of Computer Science
Sender: cap@nova.fac.cs.cmu.edu
Message-ID: <ww9ka28ce0d.fsf@nova.fac.cs.cmu.edu>
I've been having problems with emacs locking up in a spin loop and/or
crashing on my 68k NeXTstation running 3.2. I was using Carl Edman's
port of emacs 19.28, including the NS interface, though I was using it
under X (too slow under NS native). On relatively rare occasions, this
would enter an infinite loop that couldn't be broken except by killing
the process with -9. I caught it looping once while running under
GDB. I don't have a stack trace handy, but it seemed to be waiting for
a mutex within malloc. (weird if you ask me)
I tried using a straight FSF (no NS code) version of 19.29 that I
downloaded and compiled from prep.ai.mit.edu. This had the same
spinning problem, but it occurred much more frequently.
Most recently I installed FSF 19.30. This exhibits the looping
problem, but also it just crashes sometimes.
19.29 and 19.30 are in that same mutex/malloc situation when they
spin. I don't know about the crashes under 19.30. If there's really
something broken with NeXT's malloc, I'm going to have to consider
trying to build an emacs with the GNU libc (does this work on NeXT?).
Any idea?
Chris
From: jmeacham@ants.jlc.net (The Rev. James D. Meacham)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: TeX (LaTeX) conversion utilities needed
Date: 31 Jan 1996 15:39:49 GMT
Organization: JLC-net, Milford NH
Message-ID: <4eo2g5$fem@mozart.jlc.net>
Hi All,
I have a NeXT machine without developer tools, and I'm looking for
translation/ conversion utilities pre-compiled. I'm looking for stuff like
latex2html, latex2rtf, rtf2latex, etc. Does anyone know where I can find
such things. Peace,
James
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_____________________________________________________________________
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| e-mail:jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net |
| jmeacham@ants.ci.net |
| 603-654-9518 (Church) 603-654-9590(Home) |
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In yourself as the higher---Peter Murphy
From: jmeacham@ants.jlc.net (The Rev. James D. Meacham)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: TeX (LaTeX) conversion utilities needed
Date: 31 Jan 1996 15:39:55 GMT
Organization: JLC-net, Milford NH
Message-ID: <4eo2gb$fem@mozart.jlc.net>
Hi All,
I have a NeXT machine without developer tools, and I'm looking for
translation/ conversion utilities pre-compiled. I'm looking for stuff like
latex2html, latex2rtf, rtf2latex, etc. Does anyone know where I can find
such things. Peace,
James
--
_____________________________________________________________________
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| First Unitarian Congregational Society of Wilton Center |
| e-mail:jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net |
| jmeacham@ants.ci.net |
| 603-654-9518 (Church) 603-654-9590(Home) |
--------------------------------------------------------------------
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In yourself as the higher---Peter Murphy
From: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help! TeXView refuses to let me see bottom inch of page!
Date: 31 Jan 1996 21:53:41 GMT
Organization: Universite Laval
Message-ID: <4eood5$frs@athena.ulaval.ca>
References: <4em7ht$88s@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) wrote:
|
| This morning I waas playing around with 2up.sty, and managed to get
| TeXView to show me two pages to a page, an dprint them to.
|
| Well, now it's afternoon, and I have since turned off and on my computer.
| I am no longer working with a file with 2up.sty, but TeXView is
| now refusing to let me see the bottom inch of my pages on ANY 1-up document
| --- that I have previewed 100's of times before.
|
| What is wrong? What can I do to get TeXView to act normally?
You may want to check the page dimensions in TeXview's preferences.
Cheers,
Prof. Antoine Gautier
De'partement Ope'rations et Syste`mes de De'cision
Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration
Universite' Laval, Que'bec, PQ
http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/index.html
(418) 656-7066
From: Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AppleTalk Client from3.0 on 3.3?
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:02:24 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University
Message-ID: <310FF500.70EC@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Can anyone tell me if I can run the AppleTalk Client from
3.0 on 3.3? I'm interested in getting it to try. Please
email me.
Thanks to all,
Eric
------------------------------------------------
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UNITY RESPECT
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until the end." Unknown ....
From: grisaru@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (marc grisaru)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem with Latex and fonts
Date: 31 Jan 1996 19:21:18 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University
Message-ID: <4eoffe$t3l@news.cc.brandeis.edu>
I have Nextstep on an Intel machine, and a problem with fonts when
I try to print a Latex document - but no problem with plain TeX!
Particularly in equations, and also footnotes, where the fonts are
not normal size, I get very bad output.
In the Texview console window I get messages such as:
MakeTeXPK cmr12 600 600 magstep\(0.0\)
I don't know the mode for 600
Have your system admin update MakeTeXPK
dvips: Font cmr12.400pk at 600 not found; scaling 400 instead.
dvips: Such scaling will generate extremely poor output.
etc. etc.
The MakeTeXPK file looks exactly the same as on two other NeXT's
I've compared it to.
I've tried reading through the TeX documentation - as far as I
can tell (but my understanding is very limited) everything seems
to be installed correctly.
I emphasize that this seems to be a Latex-specific rather than
plain TeX problem. Haven't been able to find anyone local who
knows the answer. HELP!!!
From: pbrown@asparagus.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem with Latex and fonts
Date: 1 Feb 1996 04:01:23 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Message-ID: <4epduj$rbf@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <4eoffe$t3l@news.cc.brandeis.edu>
In article <4eoffe$t3l@news.cc.brandeis.edu>,
marc grisaru <grisaru@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu> wrote:
>I have Nextstep on an Intel machine, and a problem with fonts when
>I try to print a Latex document - but no problem with plain TeX!
>Particularly in equations, and also footnotes, where the fonts are
>not normal size, I get very bad output.
>In the Texview console window I get messages such as:
>MakeTeXPK cmr12 600 600 magstep\(0.0\)
>I don't know the mode for 600
>Have your system admin update MakeTeXPK
>dvips: Font cmr12.400pk at 600 not found; scaling 400 instead.
>dvips: Such scaling will generate extremely poor output.
>etc. etc.
>The MakeTeXPK file looks exactly the same as on two other NeXT's
You may need to hack the MakeTeXPK file a little bit, but you'll also
need a 600dpi "mode" for metafont, eg., ljfour.mode or the like. You
should consider using the MakeFonts (or something similar) script to
build-up a suite of 600dpi resolution fonts. You will have to modify the
script.
I can't imagine why your problems would be LaTeX specific, at least not
from the error message you posted.
Best,
Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: Is CSLIP now free?
Message-ID: <DM2728.3yp@waldo.com>
Organization: The WaldoNet Group
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:51:44 GMT
Since TransSys doesn't distribute the SLIP package anymore, is there a way
to get the CSLIP part of it running? Who do I pay to get a license, if there
is in fact a person?
Thanks. I sure would like to get some more performance out of this connection!
Matt
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to "repackage" NeXT packages from single-user (command line) mode?
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:12:16 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960131130727.10681F-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <310EC3DF.2907@smartt.com> <4emrln$27t@usc.edu>
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> In <310EC3DF.2907@smartt.com> wombat@smartt.com wrote:
> >
> > How would one "repackage" a .pkg from single-user mode? That
> > is, I want to put all the installed components of an application
> > back intoa .pkg. Presumably there is a way to accomplish this using the
> > files in the "receipts" directory?
On 31 Jan 1996, Matthew N. Reichman responded:
> I believe it's as simple as starting up the Installer.app, select
> the package in /NeXTLibary/Receipts/ and choose "Compress".
Hmm... that does sound easy, except that I do not believe you can get
Installer.app to run in single-user mode... I'm pretty sure I can't.
You would need to have the various files which comprise a pkg, which is
usually a .tar.Z file, a .bom file and two others which I can't remember
at the moment. I don't think there is anything special except you need
to have those files in a directory which ends in .pkg. If you have those
original files (bom etc) you can probably recreate the .tar.Z.... however
I say this as a theoretical as I've not done anything like this and have
not ever put together a pkg myself.... so consider it an uninformed guess
rather than any sort of real instruction....
TjL
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help with SimpleInterNeXTStarter
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:21:45 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960131131858.10681G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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On 31 Jan 1996, ERBalch <erbalch@aol.com> wrote:
> The help says I need to have PPP-2.2, Perl.pkg, and CF.pkg installed on my
> system before I can use the App. Well PPP-2.2 is not a problem, I have a
> copy of that on the same CD-ROM I got the App off.
You might want to check out the Steve Perkins NeXT PPP webpage to see if
you've got the newest version of PPP
>
> The problem is, where to find:
> A) Perl.pkg: If it is ok to use Perl5 I know I can get that off the
> NeXT-ftp sight at cs.orst or whatever they call it now ;) Is this version
> of Perl OK to use? If not, where can I find the correct version?
> B) CF.pkg: First, what the hell is CF anyway? Second, where can I get
> this?
a) dunno
b) dunno
However, you can find the perl and cf packages at:
ftp://ftp.cnds.canon.co.jp/pub/SKIN/BasicPackages/
(which is also where you can find the App if not on that CD
Hope that helps.
TjL
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] How to transparently access remote files by Edit
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:23:03 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960131132225.10681H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960130104111.2562A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4eo2sh$nra@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
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On 31 Jan 1996, Milind Bakhle wrote:
> Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu) wrote:
> : It will instruct you on how
> : to create a new version of Edit.app which will work properly for doing
> : just this.
> :
>
> I believe that you need to modify Edit.app under NS 3.2 using
> the fixedit.sh provided with RBrowser. You can then copy this
> modified Edit.app and use it under NS 3.3.
>
> Please correct me if this info is wrong.
I don't know if it is or not.... Why wouldn't you be able to use
fixedit.sh under 3.3?
curious,
TjL
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From: strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: cmsg cancel <STREBEL2.96Jan31184741@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de>
Control: cancel <STREBEL2.96Jan31184741@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de>
Date: 01 Feb 1996 11:24:26 GMT
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Distribution: world
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From: Robert Mueller <rmueller@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Interfacing SoftPC
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:33:42 +0100
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitt Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960201163013.577B-100000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
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I have a question concerning SoftPC:
I tried out to start SoftPC and let it execute a list of dos-commands
with /LocalApps/SoftPC.app/SoftPC -NXOpen /softpc.hdf -c "some dos
commands", and it worked fine. However, is there a possibility to
tell a RUNNING SoftPC-application to execute a dos-command (as starting
SoftPC takes quite a long time)?
Thank you very much in advance ...
Robert
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email: rmueller@duchesse.zdv.uni-mainz.de
homepage: http://www.Uni-Mainz.DE/FB/Medizin/IMSD/TheMPO/mueller.html
From: riley@dellirium.uwlax.edu (David Riley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Postscript /= Postscript
Date: 1 Feb 1996 16:02:08 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse
Message-ID: <4eqo60$nto@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu>
We're having some difficulties with the manipulation of Postscript files.
In particular many Postscript files behave differently when piped to lpr
(and printed via a NeXT printer) than when the smae files are opened and
subsequently printed through Preview.app. It seems that lpr fails to
accept certain Postscript commands. Does anyone know the limitations of
lpr and/or fixes?
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Computer Science Department
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to "repackage" NeXT packages from single-user (command line) mode?
Date: 1 Feb 1996 17:56:56 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-j-44.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4equt8$5kj@usc.edu>
References: <310EC3DF.2907@smartt.com> <4emrln$27t@usc.edu>
<Pine.NXT.3.91.960131130727.10681F-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Isn't there a packaging app on the ftp sites>
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
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From: sl@skynet.oph.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Leuker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to "repackage" NeXT packages from single-user (command line) mode?
Date: 1 Feb 1996 18:14:46 GMT
Organization: RWTH -Aachen / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4eqvum$d4m@news.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <4equt8$5kj@usc.edu>
In article <4equt8$5kj@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
writes:
> Isn't there a packaging app on the ftp sites>
>
Yep, there is PackageBuilder.app, but it doesn't work from
single user mode
sl
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From: Erling Holm <eholm@algonet.se>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP
Date: 1 Feb 1996 17:56:02 GMT
Organization: AlgoNet
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From: Erling Holm <eholm@algonet.se>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP
Date: 1 Feb 1996 17:56:24 GMT
Organization: AlgoNet
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: I'm in dire need of a x,y,zmodem solution for NS3.3
Date: 1 Feb 1996 19:03:39 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-j-70.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4er2qb$n6s@usc.edu>
Since Microphone Pro doesn't work on NS3.3 and I sold it anyway.
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From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: uucp addresses
Message-ID: <DM3uFs.FI@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
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References: <4enc3g$cbd@jaring.my>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:14:16 GMT
In article <4enc3g$cbd@jaring.my> Dmichael@rumah.rumah.pc.my
(Michael Olan) writes:
> Can anybody tell me how to config so I can use the normal form and
> have everything sent through myhost? I know there's some
> translation stuff, but I don't understand it.
You have to declare myhost as a smarthost. Then all the stuff to a
localy unknown address will be sent to this host. There should be
more about this in the manuals.
Michael
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From: patrick@opensource.com (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I'm in dire need of a x,y,zmodem solution for NS3.3
Date: 1 Feb 1996 19:39:01 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Distribution: world
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References: <4er2qb$n6s@usc.edu>
Keywords: modem
In article <4er2qb$n6s@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
writes:
> Since Microphone Pro doesn't work on NS3.3 and I sold it anyway.
>
>
> --
There are a few good communications applications available for NEXTSTEP.
TipTop ($185) is quad-fat, and includes a scripting language based on TCL,
XYZmodem protocols, and support for term. More information at
http://www.opensource.com/Software/Communication/TipTop.html
There is also the Cables application, which include XYZmodem, and is
highly configurable. Various prices depending on the kind/number of
emulations you desire. If you only need the basic VT100 capability, you
can get this for just $100 (known as the Cables "Base" product).
http://www.opensource.com/Software/Communication/Cables.html
Cordially
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From: american@internetMCI.COM (Charles C. Hocker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Second WebObjects Question!
Date: 1 Feb 1996 19:37:02 GMT
Organization: InternetMCI
Message-ID: <4er4ou$q4s@news.internetmci.com>
Okay, now that the *first* WO question is been asked, I will ask the
second. I have:
1) Download WO and Apache and installed the packages.
2) Modified the httpd.conf and changed ServerName to localhost.
3) Started the httpd using /NextLibrary/WebServer/httpd -d
/NextLibrary/WebServer > /dev/console
4) Loaded file:/NextLibrary/WebServer/htdocs/ReadMe.html
5) Clicked http://localhost -- works fine.
6) Loaded http://localhost/WebObjects/ReadMe.html -- works fine.
7) Clicked Example applications -- works fine.
8) Clicked Hello World and after about 10 minutes get the following
error message: "Did not receive any response from application."
When I do a ps -a it shows both the httpd and WebObjects running but,
there in no response. Is there something that I am missing? I have
checked the Doc's and cannot locate anything about it. All of the
permissions for all of the files look correct. I am running a
standalone machine not connected to any network or the Internet when I
try this. Has anyone else experienced this problem?
Charles american@internetmci.com
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Virtuoso 2.0 Landscape problem
Date: 1 Feb 1996 20:23:47 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-43.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4er7gj$39s@usc.edu>
Has anyone else experienced a problem with printing in landscape mode?
What happens to me is that printmanager thinks it should be going on
portrait and asks if it can cut up the job. So V2.0 isn't messaging its page
layout very well.
Has anyone a solution?
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From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: TeX (LaTeX) conversion utilities needed
Followup-To: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 1 Feb 1996 20:41:30 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Message-ID: <4er8hq$jg8@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <4eo2g5$fem@mozart.jlc.net>
The Rev. James D. Meacham (jmeacham@ants.jlc.net) wrote:
: I have a NeXT machine without developer tools, and I'm looking for
: translation/ conversion utilities pre-compiled. I'm looking for stuff like
: latex2html, latex2rtf, rtf2latex, etc. Does anyone know where I can find
: such things. Peace,
ftp.shsu.edu although a version of latex2html with a pretty old one there.
A newer one should be somewhere on llanl.gov computers; easy to find
on Web with yahoo or alta_vista search engines.
Michal
From: blusseau@pharmacie.unicaen.fr (Yves Blusseau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Gravis Ultrasound Driver for NextStep ??
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 20:36:28 GMT
Organization: Francenet -- Paris, France
Message-ID: <310e94ac.5090816@news.micronet.fr>
Did someone have a driver to use the Gravis Ultrasound ( PC Soundcard
) in NextStep 3.3 ??
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From: franc@xenicos.fdn.fr (Francois BIENTZ)
Subject: ISDN KA9Q ISPA
Message-ID: <1996Feb1.201827.258@xenicos.fdn.fr>
Sender: franc@xenicos.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual.
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:18:27 GMT
I want to use a PC with KA9Q and ISPA as a ISDN router for a NEXTSTEP
machine.But how configure the files on the PC and on NEXTSTEP ???
Thank you
From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Postscript /= Postscript
Date: 1 Feb 1996 22:00:52 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <4erd6k$42c@tribune.usask.ca>
I tried to respond to this by mail, but the mail bounced.
In article <4eqo60$nto@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu>, riley@dellirium.uwlax.edu
(David Riley) wrote:
>We're having some difficulties with the manipulation of Postscript files.
>In particular many Postscript files behave differently when piped to lpr
>(and printed via a NeXT printer) than when the smae files are opened and
>subsequently printed through Preview.app. It seems that lpr fails to>accept
certain Postscript commands. Does anyone know the limitations of
>lpr and/or fixes?
Usually this problem comes from PostScript files which claim to be
`conforming', but really aren't. The problem shows up because the print
spooler tries to rearrange things so that the last page is printed first.
True `conforming' PostScript can handle this.
Lots of programs (mostly from the DOS/Windows/Apple world, but some versions
of Framemaker, too) put in the comments that purport to be conforming, but
then generate PostScript that can't handle being rearranged.
The simple fix, which often works, is to edit the offending PostScript file
and change the first line to:
%!
(i.e. remove everything after the first two characters).
The spooler then won't try and reorder things, and the file should print
(first page first).
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From: asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scanning software for NS
Date: 1 Feb 1996 22:22:05 GMT
Organization: Gulfnet Kuwait
Message-ID: <4ereed$aec@gulfa.kuwait.net>
Is there a free bee software for NS3.3?
Thanx.
From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Landscape problem
Date: 2 Feb 1996 00:48:15 GMT
Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content
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References: <4er7gj$39s@usc.edu>
In <4er7gj$39s@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> Has anyone else experienced a problem with printing in landscape mode?
>
> What happens to me is that printmanager thinks it should be going on
> portrait and asks if it can cut up the job. So V2.0 isn't messaging its
page
> layout very well.
>
> Has anyone a solution?
>
>
>
Hi Matthew:
Virtuoso 2.0 adds new functionality in its print panel that you must use in
order to print lanscape and scale to fit properly. Click on options button
(there are actually 2, the one on the bottom is the one you want). Next,
click on the Printer setup and click on the "Printer Setup" button. The file
selector appears and you should chose the PPD for the printer you are using.
When you do this, you then have the option to chose page size (using a popup
menu) and orientation (using radio buttons).
The whole point of doing this is that all PostScript printers come with PPD
(PostScript Printer Description) files which contain information about which
page sizes it can handle and what the maximum printable area is. When an
application knows this, it can orient the page properly, and in the case of
"size to fit" can know exactly how much to reduce the page size (if
necessary) to fit on a given paper size (i.e. printing a Tabloid size layout
on a Letter size paper). While these extra steps are a slight burden, it
does allow for precise results when printing. It's also documented in the
2.0 addendum found on our Solutions Suite CD ROM ;-)
Hope this info helps.
Best regards,
John C. Fox
http://www.gscorp.com
From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Landscape problem
Date: 2 Feb 1996 00:48:24 GMT
Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content
Message-ID: <4ern0o$ej@miwok.nbn.com>
References: <4er7gj$39s@usc.edu>
In <4er7gj$39s@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> Has anyone else experienced a problem with printing in landscape mode?
>
> What happens to me is that printmanager thinks it should be going on
> portrait and asks if it can cut up the job. So V2.0 isn't messaging its
page
> layout very well.
>
> Has anyone a solution?
>
>
>
Hi Matthew:
Virtuoso 2.0 adds new functionality in its print panel that you must use in
order to print lanscape and scale to fit properly. Click on options button
(there are actually 2, the one on the bottom is the one you want). Next,
click on the Printer setup and click on the "Printer Setup" button. The file
selector appears and you should chose the PPD for the printer you are using.
When you do this, you then have the option to chose page size (using a popup
menu) and orientation (using radio buttons).
The whole point of doing this is that all PostScript printers come with PPD
(PostScript Printer Description) files which contain information about which
page sizes it can handle and what the maximum printable area is. When an
application knows this, it can orient the page properly, and in the case of
"size to fit" can know exactly how much to reduce the page size (if
necessary) to fit on a given paper size (i.e. printing a Tabloid size layout
on a Letter size paper). While these extra steps are a slight burden, it
does allow for precise results when printing. It's also documented in the
2.0 addendum found on our Solutions Suite CD ROM ;-)
Hope this info helps.
Best regards,
John C. Fox
http://www.gscorp.com
From: burt@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: TeX (LaTeX) conversion utilities needed
Date: 1 Feb 1996 23:02:43 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University
Message-ID: <4ergqj$a9q@news.cc.brandeis.edu>
References: <4eo2g5$fem@mozart.jlc.net>
In article <4eo2g5$fem@mozart.jlc.net>, jmeacham@ants.jlc.net (The Rev. James D. Meacham) writes:
I'm looking for stuff like
>latex2html, latex2rtf, rtf2latex, etc. Does anyone know where I can find
>such things. Peace,
James: I've seen the rtf utilities you mention at jumbo, which you may see
being maligned on this list. What I saw there were mac versions, but if there
are unix programs at all on Jumbo (which I don't know) you might be in
luck there.
p.s. Thanks for sending me your newsletter, and best to Jen!
John
From: tyf@maxroach.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Magic on NeXT?
Date: 2 Feb 1996 03:15:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <4ervkc$7e6@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi,
Has anyone compiled a copy of MAGIC on NeXTSTEP 3.3? I have CubX.
ANy info appreciated. Thanks.
--
-------------
Tin-Yau Fung @ UC Berkeley
tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu NeXTMail OK! ---------
From: jorice@cs.tcd.ie (Jonathan Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTTeX, and TeXview.app in particular
Date: 1 Feb 1996 17:49:55 GMT
Organization: TCD, Computer Science
Message-ID: <4equg3$io9@news.cs.tcd.ie>
References: <9601281700.AA15298@flexus> <4ej4lp$8mp@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
While people are focussing on TeXView here, I'd like to just ask, does
the current `modified' version that's been mentioned support antialiased
fonts? A few months ago I downloaded a version that sort of does this,
but it is extremely unstable.
What I want here is to have an equivalent TeXing environment under
NS to that which I have under Linux: Emacs with AUCTeX macros, xdvi for
display (inc. inlined EPS images, courtesy of ghostscript, and glorious
anti-aliased fonts). This setup is just great: really powerful, extendible
and integrated. Now, thanks to the efforts of Carl Edman, we have a good
NS version of Emacs. But TeXView just doesn't fill the shoes of xdvi in
this context.
BTW, there's been a fair amount of discussion of legal issues involved in
distributing the source for the modified TeXView, but does this preclude
a binary-only release (or did I miss the announcement for that)?
-- Jonathan Rice
Dept. Comp. Sci., Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.
--
From: marcel@star.ali.bc.ca (Marcel Sutanto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to reserve 2Mbytes of physically contiguous memory?
Date: 2 Feb 1996 03:41:09 GMT
Organization: ALI
Message-ID: <4es14l$ar2@cetus.ali.bc.ca>
Keywords: PCI drivers
I am writing a NeXT driver for a PCI video frame grabber. The board
requires that the driver allocates 2 Mbytes of physically contiguous HOST
memory for DMA transfer of live video to host memory. Unfortunately, I
cannot use IOMalloc () because IOMalloc does not guarantee physically
contiguous memory. Using IOMallocLow (2Meg) always failed probably because
the driver was asking a large chuck of memory. The driver was never able
to allocate 2Meg of contiguous memory.
Does anyone know how to reserve 2Meg of physically contiguous memory on NS
3.3?
Thanks...
--
Marcel Sutanto, marcel@ali.bc.ca
From: "Benjamin G. Benson" <benson@spiderline.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXT Database w/Web Interface?
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 23:38:11 -0500
Organization: Shore.Net/Eco Software, Inc; (info@shore.net)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960201233733.6592A-100000@northshore.shore.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I'm looking to start up a NEXT server on the web and would like to know
what is available in the means of web-accessable databases. I've heard
there are might be an easy solution to building a web searcheable
(through perl?) database on a NEXT machine... is this true?
Thanks!
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From: tm8025a@mailhost.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WebObjects and NCSA 1.5 problems
Date: 2 Feb 1996 06:51:27 GMT
Organization: American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <4esc9f$qie@paladin.american.edu>
I have been trying to get WebObjects to run through NCSA 1.5 httpd and have
been having some problems. First, for most of the examples I have to click
the STOP button in order to finish rendering the page. It just keeps loading
otherwise. Second, I get the following error in the error log when I try to
use the examples:
httpd: access to /http/cgi-bin/WebObjects failed for
client.domain.american.edu, reason: client denied by server configuration
(CGI) from http://www.soc.american.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Examples/DodgeLite
I also get "/cgi-bin/WebObjects denied" in the browser
I tried playing with the access.conf file but at best got the loading to
stop after the correct amount of time. I then tried copying the access rules
from the Apache server included with WebObjects and still couldn't get the
thing to work. To be complete here I have checked the permissions on
everything. WebObjects is executable as are all the directories. All files
are read only. (Everything worked when I used the Apache server in case
you're wondering.)
If anyone has NCSA working with WebObjects could you MIME or NeXTMail your
config files to me at:
tm8025a@mailhost.soc.american.edu
If anyone sees some conflict above that I have missed that information would
be cool also.
--
Torrey McMahon
From: homerun@rescomp.Stanford.EDU (Matt Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to "repackage" NeXT packages from single-user (command line) mode?
Date: 1 Feb 1996 23:41:53 -0800
Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Message-ID: <4esf81$j4o@rescomp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <310EC3DF.2907@smartt.com>
Use the package utility as described in:
/NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/Concepts/Installer.rtf.
matt.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IEEE 488 (GPIB)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 11:23:35 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960202112208.9256B-100000@hphalle7a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <4eb6nt$967@news.eecs.umich.edu> <DLuEon.EL@nexus1.tng.oche.de> <4einpr$4ah@tribune.usask.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4einpr$4ah@tribune.usask.ca>
On 29 Jan 1996 eric@skatter.USask.Ca wrote:
> I am author of the NeXTSTEP IEEE-488 drivers.
>
> I strongly recommend that anyone interested in working with IEEE-488 on
> NeXSTEP/Intel *not* use the old driver (version 0.9). The only reason you
> might want to use this version is if you are stuck with an interface card
> that uses the NEC 7210 chip. I haven't been doing anything with this driver
> for quite some time.
>
> The new driver (IEEE488Driver1.0.src.tar.gz) is much improved:
> - Works with a National Instruments GPIB-PCII/IIA card. This
> card provides a number of features that make the driver quite a
> bit more efficient.
> - Driver works with NeXTSTEP 3.3.
> - Comes with some basic IEEE488 device classes ready to add to
> your application.
> - Source placed under RCS so you can see all the changes that have
> been made.
>
Could you please point me to the place where to obtain this driver? We
only keep the 0.9 version on Peanuts. To get the update would be nice.
Does the new driver also support the NEC7210? Is the 0.9 version obsolete
if using the new driver?
Greetings,
Boerny.
--
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny)
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/
scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: killeri@polis.bas.roche.com (Ivo Killer)
Subject: Re: NeXT software archives?
Message-ID: <1996Feb2.094517.6134@roche.com>
Sender: news@roche.com (USENET News System)
Organization: Hoffmann-La Roche AG
References: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960118175627.27918A-100000@fraser>
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 09:45:17 GMT
check out ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. Do a "cd next" in every dir.
that brings you to the right stuff.
another one is ftp.cs.orst.edu.
-ivo
Magicman (aludgate@sfu.ca) wrote:
: I've been out of the NeXT arena for a bit, and I seem to have lost a
: bunch of nifty NeXT apps. I was searching the web for NeXT software
: repositories, but couldn't seem to find any.
: Does anyone have a good list of ftp/www/gopher links to NeXT shareware?
: 'till next time,
: |\/|.|\/|.
: ___ /
: */;^}|><< Andrew.
: +__/ \
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Landscape problem
Date: 2 Feb 1996 11:17:44 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-48.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4esrso$epk@usc.edu>
References: <4er7gj$39s@usc.edu> <4ern0f$ej@miwok.nbn.com>
In <4ern0f$ej@miwok.nbn.com> John C. Fox wrote:
> The whole point of doing this is that all PostScript printers come with
PPD
> (PostScript Printer Description) files which contain information about
which
> page sizes it can handle and what the maximum printable area is. When an
> application knows this, it can orient the page properly, and in the case
of
> "size to fit" can know exactly how much to reduce the page size (if
> necessary) to fit on a given paper size (i.e. printing a Tabloid size
layout
> on a Letter size paper). While these extra steps are a slight burden, it
> does allow for precise results when printing. It's also documented in the
> 2.0 addendum found on our Solutions Suite CD ROM ;-)
John -
Then am I missing something? Because Virtuoso is multipage, and one can have
various orientations in one document, how is this handled with one ppd
setting?
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.questions
Subject: binary for sending MIME mail from the commandline
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:50:46 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960201124501.2998B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: Procmail Mailing List <procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
I know there are ways to send NeXTMail from the commandline, but I am
wondering if there is a way to send MIME mail from the commandline -- not
from within some interactive program like PINE, but some simple line such as:
sendmime someone@somewhere.com somefile
where 'sendmime' would be some program which can send MIME,
'someone@somewhere.com' would be the person to send it to, and 'somefile'
would be the file to send (via MIME).
Anyone have any ideas? Please email and I will sum up, as I have
un-characteristically cross-posted this message.
Thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Swapfile and Swapdisk FAQ available via email! Send email with subject:
'send info' for more info or with subject 'send swapfaq' to receive the FAQ.
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From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: 2 Feb 1996 15:52:21 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <4etbvl$lnl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
My beta of OmniWeb v2.0 has just expired. Can anybody shed any
light when we might expect to see the real thing? I'm not anxious
to go back to v1.0.
Thanks much - Jon
--
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Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu
Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office)
Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax)
W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
From: rabbit@tygra.Michigan.COM (Roger Rabbit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to get The MORTIMER Story
Message-ID: <14756@tygra.Michigan.COM>
Date: 2 Feb 96 12:04:47 GMT
Organization: Shut Up Blair
This posting was made automatically by machine. It will appear once
every minute or so. Direct any questions to rabbit@Buster.Michigan.COM
-------
The MORTIMER story can be retreived from a special archive server
(the Mort-Server) To request a part of the MORTIMER story, send
mail to one of the addresses below. Put your request on
the Subject: line of your message. Requests are can be the in the
following form:
ALL - (in upper case) will cause the entire story to be sent
to you.
n - (where n is an integer) will cause part one to be sent
n,m... - (where n and m, etc are integers) will cause parts n, m
and so forth, to be sent.
You may send your request to any of the following addresses:
MORTIMER@Buster.Michigan.COM
MORTIMER@Babs.Michigan.COM
MORTIMER@Plucky.Michigan.COM
MORTIMER@Hamton.Michigan.COM
MORTIMER@McLoon.Michigan.COM
MORTIMER@Elmyra.Michigan.COM
If you send off a request and don't get a response within 5 days,
send e-mail to the sysop here (NOT ME!!). His address is:
ARCHIVER@Michigan.COM
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From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Opener.app
Date: 2 Feb 1996 16:39:24 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Message-ID: <4etens$elu@abel.cc.sunysb.edu>
Does any version of Opener.app create Mac binhex files?
Opener seems to be able to unpack them, but I can't find a way to create
them with version 3.3.
Thanks for the bandwidth.
-Richard Larson
Dept. of Linguistics
SUNY - SB
Date: 2 Feb 1996 17:09:52 GMT
From: rabbit@tygra.Michigan.COM (Roger Rabbit)
Message-ID: <cancel.14756@tygra.Michigan.COM>
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anyone -> Cables vs TipTop
Date: 2 Feb 1996 19:09:14 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-41.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4etngr$ei@usc.edu>
For VT100 and x/y/z modem, kermit, etc.
What do people think? I need to buy one of them almost yesterday!
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
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From: ocm@sn.no (Ole Chr. Magneshaugen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How can I make a gif or jpg image with a transparent background ?
Date: 2 Feb 1996 19:02:32 GMT
Organization: SN Internett
Message-ID: <4etn48$hi6@hasle.sn.no>
References: <4ehobn$rfn@news4.digex.net> <4ejk6n$jrs@hercules.its.csiro.au>
I noticed a submission of a utility called something like GifOMatic, on
ftp.next.peak.org and the Peanuts archive that promised to do this
conversion with Alpha Channel. This is just from a brief scan through the
submission info, so I might very well be presented you with false promises,
but you should check it out.
Best1s,
OleChr
--
From: doyle@mmm.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: 2 Feb 1996 20:22:42 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Message-ID: <4etrqi$nnc@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <4etbvl$lnl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) wrote:
> My beta of OmniWeb v2.0 has just expired. Can anybody shed any
> light when we might expect to see the real thing? I'm not anxious
> to go back to v1.0.
Don't know, but the 2.0 beta3b version won't expire until March 14. Try
downloading that one.
Cheers,
Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu (Hiro Yoshida)
Subject: [Summary] How to transparently access remote files by Edit?
Message-ID: <DM6AHB.Gxz@midway.uchicago.edu>
Keywords: Edit, RBrowser, emacs, ange-ftp
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 23:55:59 GMT
Hello,
Thank you for all who responded to my original question regarding
transparent access to a remote file by Edit.
The original question was:
> Is there a macro that provides transparent access to a file located on a
> remote machine using Edit?
All the people who responded recommended the use of RBrowser, and it worked
nicely with me too. You can download it from peanuts.leo.org
(/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/filetransfer/RBrowser.0.972.NIHS.b.tar.gz)
.
Also, I found another way to do the same thing by using Emacs on NS. Emacs
on NS is a version of GNU Emacs with additional GUI flavor. This package is
associated with ange-ftp, which allows you to transparently access remote
files.
For those who are not familiar with ange-ftp, here is a short description on
how to use it.
## Usage
Ange-ftp uses FTP for accessing remote files. It is included in the
standard package, so you may be able to access a remote file by simply
typing C-x C-f (or M-x find-file) followed by the remote file name with the
following syntax:
/HOST:FILENAME
/USER@HOST:FILENAME
You will be asked the password for logging in. Once you login, you can
read/write the file as if it were a local file.
So, for example, if you would like to read/write the "/Users/yoshida/.emacs"
file in "fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu," you would type:
C-x C-f /yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu:/Users/yoshida/.emacs
(Of course, you have to have a password!)
## Availability
It is included as a part of standard package. Also, you can obtain it
from:
ange-ftp (4.18) 15-Jul-1992
Andy Norman, <ange@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
~/packages/ange-ftp.tar.Z
transparent FTP Support for GNU Emacs
ftp://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/pub/gnu/emacs/elisp-archive/
Thank you again for all who helped me solve the problem.
_________________________________________________________
Hiro Yoshida
Kurt Rossmann Laboratories
Department of Radiology, The University of Chicago, MC2026
5841 South Maryland Avenue, Chicago Illinois 60637
Phone: 312-702-1350, FAX 312-702-0371 ,,,
yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu (* o)
_____________________________________.oOO--(_)--OOo._____
From: kevin@shadow.dartmouth.edu (kevin parks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTMail hell
Date: 2 Feb 1996 23:48:51 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4eu7t3$fh4@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Keywords: help me please
Greetings NeXTheads!
I recently sent some mail to someone who doesn't get NeXTMail
and forgot to send it as non-NeXTMail and it must have had
a font change in it or something and it went out as a :
begin 666 .tar.456.Just_Just.attach
M'YV0:=R0*8/'A1PZ9@`H7,BPH<.'$"-*G$BQ(HB+-FC0``'@(H@8&CEZO`A#
MY,B+-U+*P!@#!HT9,FK$O.&QQ@T9,SI6W,FSI\^?0(,*'4JTJ-&C2),FW</E
type thing. the person sent it back to me and i would
like to make it normal and send it out again as ascii.
I thought that i could just uudecode it by hand but when i do
it comes out as:
tar.456.Just_Just.attach
3:V @ (\ #J H " 6h " 9zC 7R 2j
!o ISF 1 I 4m i! M; ( W 61d \ y A o !
how can i get it back to a text file that my NeXTMail
can read? is it gone forever?
NeXTmail would be really nice if more than .000000000000001%
of the world had it. I wish that i could
make the ascii the default. I like the NeXTmail app
and i like to use it but for this reason i just
use the shell usually.
Also is there anyway to save send messages automatically
in a folder so that if someone doesn't get the mail the first
time you can find it and resend it.
thanks,
kevin
From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Virtuoso 2.0 Landscape problem
Date: 3 Feb 1996 00:30:38 GMT
Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content
Message-ID: <4euabe$m9l@miwok.nbn.com>
References: <4er7gj$39s@usc.edu> <4ern0f$ej@miwok.nbn.com>
<4esrso$epk@usc.edu>
>
> John -
>
> Then am I missing something? Because Virtuoso is multipage, and one can
have
> various orientations in one document, how is this handled with one ppd
> setting?
>
>
Hi There:
In this case, you have two choices:
1) Print indvidual pages at a time
2) Live with one orientation or the other
John
From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTMail hell
Date: 3 Feb 1996 02:05:41 GMT
Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4euftl$sl0@miwok.nbn.com>
References: <4eu7t3$fh4@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
In <4eu7t3$fh4@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> kevin parks wrote:
>
> Also is there anyway to save send messages automatically
> in a folder so that if someone doesn't get the mail the first
> time you can find it and resend it.
>
>
> thanks,
>
> kevin
>
>
Hi There:
I don't know if I can help you with the manual decoding, but here's help for
the future. If you don't have NEXTSTEP 3.3, you should seriously consider
getting it. One of the goodies is the new Mail.app. Its Preferences
panellets you set the default format you're working in. The absolute safest
bet is Text Only, but you can also use MIME. MIME is the standard that the
industry more or less agreed on. It's quite like NeXT Mail in that you embed
attachments in the mail message. For a NeXT mail user, everything looks the
same. If you send a MIME mail to a someone who only has a text mail reader,
they still get to see the text contents of the message.
Also, you can use the Preferences to set "Archive Outgoing Mail." This saves
a copy of every mail message you sent in a separate Mailbox called
"Outgoing."
I have to admit that I think NeXT's Mail.app is still far and away superior
out there, including Eudora Pro, or the much ballyhooed Mail portion of
Netscape 2.0.
Hope this ifno helps.
John
http://www.gscorp.com
>
>
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From: deniseh@shellx.best.com (Denise Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opener.app
Date: 2 Feb 1996 17:53:44 -0800
Organization: Best Internet Communications
Message-ID: <4euf78$i7p@shellx.best.com>
References: <4etens$elu@abel.cc.sunysb.edu>
Richard K. Larson (rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu) wrote:
: Does any version of Opener.app create Mac binhex files?
: Opener seems to be able to unpack them, but I can't find a way to create
: them with version 3.3.
The answer is no. There is no public-domain software for creating Mac binhex
files (or at least there wasn't as of a year ago when I released Opener 3.3).
If you learn otherwise and it can be compiled for a Unix environment, please
let me know and I will try to incorporate it in a future release.
Denise
(BTW, note that my e-mail address is now different from what's on Opener!
Thank goodness I'm not still living in Chicago _this_ week! Brrrrrrr...)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Malte Tancred
Subject: Re: How to "repackage" NeXT packages from single-user (command line) mode?
Message-ID: <DM5n7o.Dn3@oops.se>
Sender: usenet@oops.se
Organization: OOPS art, HB
References: <4equt8$5kj@usc.edu> <4eqvum$d4m@news.rwth-aachen.de>
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 15:33:23 GMT
Hi,
Check out the /NextLibrary/NextDev/Concepts/Installer.rtf if you haven't
done that already. There you'll find some info on how to create a package of
your own. I don't know however, if this information will help you with
removing already existing files. Maybe there are some arguments to the
Installer executable?
Regards,
Malte
PS. Not much of an answer, eh? :)
--
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OOPS art, HB
Member of Swedish Object Guild
malte@oops.se NeXTMail, Mime welcome
From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: some NeXTTeX questions...
Date: 3 Feb 1996 14:46:09 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <4evsfh$bqp@news.tamu.edu>
I am running NS3.2 and installed NeXTTeX recently. After surfing the web
for help manuals and tutorials on TeX and LaTeX, I am wondering what version
of TeX or LaTeX comes with NS3.2? (Latex 2.09 or Latex2e)
- if not Latex2e, would it be worth to upgrade to Latex2e? Whatever is
there right now seems to run fine for me.
- if it is worth to upgrade, where and how would one proceed to do
this?
Thanks for any answers, helps, hints to the above questions. You can reach
me at schaub@tamu.edu.
Blue Skies,
HP
--
Hanspeter Schaub
Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant
Aerospace Engineering Department
Texas A&M University
http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub
schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY!
-Jonathon Livingston Seagull
From: lusty@aimnet.com (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTMail hell
Date: 3 Feb 1996 08:49:59 -0800
Organization: Aimnet Corp.
Message-ID: <4f03nn$rqm@aimnet.aimnet.com>
References: <4eu7t3$fh4@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Keywords: help me please
In article <4eu7t3$fh4@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
kevin parks <Kevin.Parks@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
>Greetings NeXTheads!
Thanks, but my head is neither a cube nor rotated 28 degrees.
>how can i get it back to a text file that my NeXTMail
>can read? is it gone forever?
NextMail attachments are tar'd, compressed, and uuencoded, so
you must undo each of those. You'll end up with at least one
rtf file (index.rtf), and other files if you've included any
other attachments in your message.
>NeXTmail would be really nice if more than .000000000000001%
>of the world had it. I wish that i could
>make the ascii the default. I like the NeXTmail app
>and i like to use it but for this reason i just
>use the shell usually.
>
>Also is there anyway to save send messages automatically
>in a folder so that if someone doesn't get the mail the first
>time you can find it and resend it.
In Info->Preferences in the Send options there are two check
boxes: Non-NeXT Mail and Archive. Check them.
Lusty
From: buzz@marvin.isdn.cs.TU-Berlin.DE (Bastian Schlueter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ISDN KA9Q ISPA
Date: 3 Feb 1996 15:31:03 GMT
Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe
Message-ID: <4evv3n$otv@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <1996Feb1.201827.258@xenicos.fdn.fr>
franc@xenicos.fdn.fr (Francois BIENTZ) wrote:
> I want to use a PC with KA9Q and ISPA as a ISDN router for a NEXTSTEP
> machine.But how configure the files on the PC and on NEXTSTEP ???
Hi Francois,
I run exactly the same konfiguration. On the Next you just have to set
the router ip-address (this is the address of your PC), the netmask and
the broadcast-address. You can do this with the local menu of
Hostmanager.app.
The netmask and broadcast depend on your local network and what your
provider tells you.
If you need an example konfiguration for KA9Q and ISPA mail me and I
send you my konfiguration files.
cu
Bastian
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTMail hell
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 10:33:16 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960203102305.18622M-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4eu7t3$fh4@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
On 2 Feb 1996, kevin parks <Kevin.Parks@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:
>
> Greetings NeXTheads!
>
> I recently sent some mail to someone who doesn't get NeXTMail
> and forgot to send it as non-NeXTMail and it must have had
> a font change in it or something and it went out as a :
>
> begin 666 .tar.456.Just_Just.attach
> M'YV0:=R0*8/'A1PZ9@`H7,BPH<.'$"-*G$BQ(HB+-FC0``'@(H@8&CEZO`A#
> MY,B+-U+*P!@#!HT9,FK$O.&QQ@T9,SI6W,FSI\^?0(,*'4JTJ-&C2),FW</E
>
>
> type thing. the person sent it back to me and i would
> like to make it normal and send it out again as ascii.
> I thought that i could just uudecode it by hand but when i do
> it comes out as:
>
> tar.456.Just_Just.attach
> 3:V @ (\ #J H " 6h " 9zC 7R 2j
> !o ISF 1 I 4m i! M; ( W 61d \ y A o !
>
>
> how can i get it back to a text file that my NeXTMail
> can read? is it gone forever?
no, it shouldn't be, as long as you have the uudecoded part.
Save _just_ the part of the message from the 'begin' to 'end' lines
(inclusive of the begin and the end lines) to a file called nextmail.uue
then do 'uudecode nextmail.uue' and you'll get some file that begins with
.tar (do 'ls -l' to see it). Let's say it is .tar.something-really-long.
Then do 'mv .tar.something-really-long nextmail.tar.Z'
then unpack nextmail.tar.Z as you would any other .tar.Z file.
If you have trouble, send me email. I do this all the time, as I connect
to this account via telnet and there STILL is no way to read NeXTMail at
the commandline.
>
> NeXTmail would be really nice if more than .000000000000001%
> of the world had it.
amen to that... and I think it won't be happening soon. MIME has made
people accept a standard that isn't a good, but such is life at the
common trough...
> I wish that i could make the ascii the default. I like the NeXTmail app
> and i like to use it but for this reason i just use the shell usually.
You can make ASCII the default (at least from NS 3.0 on, I believe).
Check the preferences under compose.
> Also is there anyway to save send messages automatically
> in a folder so that if someone doesn't get the mail the first
> time you can find it and resend it.
yes, again in the preferences, select 'archive outgoing mail' or
'archive' or whatever it is. This will create a mailbox called
'Outgoing.mbox' in ~/Mailboxes that will get a copy of each mail message
you send.
If you've got any questions or problems, feel free to email me.... how I
wish I could use Mail.app rather than PINE.... *sigh*
TjL
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Other info-via-email available, send mail with subject 'send info'
For information on PPP under NeXTStep <nextppp@listproc.thoughtport.com>
From: root@localhost.ios.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Try to upgrade PixelMagician (Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?)
Date: 3 Feb 1996 20:01:43 GMT
Organization: Internet Online Services
Message-ID: <4f0ev7$jo8@news.ios.com>
References: <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
<4ebcbk$bt6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4eca2h$66b@news4.digex.net>
<4el6fs$dm4@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <4empf0$7n@news4.digex.net>
In <4empf0$7n@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote:
> neuss@sun39 (Christian Neuss) wrote:
> > John Kheit (jkheit@cnj.digex.net) wrote: : Speaking of which,
> > PM does everything but save gifs with alpha. : Maybe if we could
> > start a list of people willing to pay $50bux for : them to upgrade
> > it, they might do it.
>
> > : I'll start with my vote :)
>
> > Make that two.. in fact, I think unless they fix it, I'm not
> > going to buy
>
> > If, however, PM is basically a graphical userinterface around
> > ppm (looks a bit like it), then they and we are out of luck. Does
> > anybody else have an alternative? Somebody mentioned a "epstotiff"
> > tool. I know there is a graphical app available as demo from
> > next, but most people probably need a cmd line tool for bulk
> > processing. Does anybody know more?
>
> Well the folks at Baccus do have a solution...if they will integrate
> it into PM is another question. I've gotten some mail that says,
> in effect, if there are enough people that commit to it, they might
> do it...
>
> So, I guess, a bunch of me too's here, or probably better yet,
> email to them saying so might get the update we all want.
>
> As in all elections, the true voting is done w/ the pocketbook (sigh).
>
I found a submission on the archives at
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions that will add this
functionality to the excellent Tiffany2 program.
Scott Turner
FirstSight INc.
1stsight@worldweb.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: franc@xenicos.fdn.fr (Francois BIENTZ)
Subject: Re: ISDN KA9Q ISPA
Message-ID: <1996Feb3.221407.1107@xenicos.fdn.fr>
Sender: franc@xenicos.fdn.fr
Organization: Individual.
References: <1996Feb1.201827.258@xenicos.fdn.fr>
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 22:14:07 GMT
I want to use a PC with KA9Q and ISPA as a ISDN router for a NEXTSTEP
machine.But how to configure the files on the PC and on NEXTSTEP ???
Thank you
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Subject: Someone using Metrotool 1.2 (black)
Message-ID: <DM5404.qr@galileo.pr.net.ch>
Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Organization: Home in Tenero, Switzerland
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:38:28 GMT
Hi!
Are you using Metrotool 1.2 for black? If yes, how many floppy disks
have you found in the box? Me, just one, but the installing instruction
speak about two floppy disks, and the first ask for the second...
So the installation cannot complete right.
So, if you have the 2nd floppy, please let me know.
Thank you,
Stefano
--
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Casa Manuela - 6598 Tenero Switzerland - Europe
phone: +41 91 745 3073 fax: +41 91 745 3064
NeXTMail: Stefano@Galileo.pr.net.CH
From: tlm@ameslab.gov(Dr. T. L. Marchioro II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP
Date: 4 Feb 1996 04:17:35 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <4f1c0v$1ab@news.iastate.edu>
References: <4equri$58b@prometheus.algonet.se>
Erling Holm <eholm@algonet.se> writes
> How do I use Newsgroupes?
>
oh, okay I guess, but your content could use some polishing :)
TLM
From: Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 01:43:10 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University
Message-ID: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'll never understand why if Apple does not license OPENSTEP. Their
OpenDoc software is cool, but too little too late. The MAC OS platform
needs something more powerful to make it compelling!
Their visionless CEO was fired for good reason- he even had the company
turn down a license from Gateway 2000- LUDICROUS!
Steve Jobs has vision, but as in his article in Red Herring- ~="you can
argue who the winners and losers will be, but ultimately I knew one day
all computers would operate like this". Well this same philosophy can
come true again with objects. Apple could loose to Microsloth, however
NeXT is dwarfed next to Microsloth's marketing muscle and installed
user base. If NeXT doesn't push OPENSTEP to companies like Apple, they
may suffer. They simply need OPENSTEP on as many different machines as
possible. Exposure and marketing is key!
What if Apple bought NeXT or vice versa? I think both companies have
some of the most excellent software and hardware qualities today!
Comments welcome!
Eric
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From: Robert Lutwak <robert@amo.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MailWatchView 2.0 - Bug Fix
Date: 4 Feb 1996 17:26:19 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4f2q7r$cm6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi.
I have replaced the MailWatchView 2.0 distribution on
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/MailWatchView_2.0.tar.gz
with a new version with the same name. The new one won't crash
BackSpace and fill your console with many thousands of error messages
if you fire it up with an empty NameList (as distributed). Also, the
new copy really IS compiled FAT for Intel and Motorola.
Thanks to Art Isbell for reporting the bug and suggesting a fix.
Keep those bug reports rolling in...
Robert
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From: devan2m@imap2.asu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTSTEP for SPARC Native Port
Date: 4 Feb 1996 20:16:31 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University
Message-ID: <4f346v$6je@news.asu.edu>
Before its release, I seem to recall rumors, or perhaps they were
fairly accurate accounts being passed along from those who knew, about
how little time it took NeXT to do the basic port of NEXTSTEP for SPARC.
In fact, I seem to recall people quoting Steve Jobs or Avie Tevanian, Jr.
about this taking something on the order of a few hours.
What I also clearly remember is receiving a preliminary spec
sheet about NS for SPARC which was circulated by NeXT at , dare I say,
the last Expo but then waiting until the following March/April before the
NS 3. user and developer were released.
Can anybody refresh my memory or provide actual quotes relative
to any of this? I do know that NeXT engineers have been notorious in the
past for having ports of NEXTSTEP running on one hardware platform or
another, yet this isn't something that is immediately pursued or released.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
-Regards-
From: bygranz@acadcomp.cmp.ilstu.edu (Benjamin Yates Granzeau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Date: 4 Feb 1996 20:43:54 GMT
Organization: ISU Network Services
Message-ID: <4f35qa$l1q@thor.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Eric Dubiel (eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu) wrote:
:[clip with chainsaw]
one: eric, calm the f*ck down.
two: get a discussion we care about.
three: quit cross posting unless you want mail bombed. not saying i
would do it, but i know people who would... kinda like posting: you're
all going to hell on the sex groups....
: What if Apple bought NeXT or vice versa? I think both companies have
: some of the most excellent software and hardware qualities today!
Um, sorry, MS is prolly here to stay, unfortunately. I like the idea of
NeXT being a player again (I learned UNIX on a NeXT) but they are totally
out of the hardware market. Their OS is basically dead except for those
who REALLY want to get back to the NeXT workstations. And those people
will not admit that they are no longer available...
As for Apple, they will always have a market share, but will never be
as powerful as microsoft. MS is basically able to push it's way around
now, barring a anti-trust suit. It will prolly always keep macs down,
unfortunately. If they combined with NeXT, I'm sorry, Apple already
has a decent GUI, doesn't it? and isn't that all NeXT's OS is?
i have accepted that macs are better than pc's in ways, even though i
could be shot by some of my own friends for saying that.
So, i have to say, yeah, that's cool. but it wouldn't go very far,
compared to some companies. (microsoft)
Gonzo
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From: Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: sci.crypt,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: CryptorBundle for NEXTSTEP 3.3 mail.app
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 17:01:23 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University
Message-ID: <31153AC3.7A17@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I am trying to locate CryptoBundle for the NEXTSTEP operating system.
I have read it is available via FTP from a German site, however my
attempts at locating it have been unsuccessful.
If anyone has information, please email me.
Thank You,
Eric
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From: bens@nntp.bnl.gov (ben sternlieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: gcc-2.7.2 NS/I Any Success?
Date: 31 Jan 1996 15:34:30 GMT
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory
Message-ID: <4eo266$b5f@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov>
Hi,
Just downloaded the distribution from prep.ai.mit.edu, tried to build,
and crapped out going to stage2. Has anyone succeeded? I got some sort of
_eintFloat label error (Forgot to write it down (=<. )
NS/I 3.3
Developer 3.2
486 DX2
-Ben
From: Lawson English <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Date: 4 Feb 1996 11:04:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet (602)395-1010
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Excuse?
OpenStep isn't as good as OpenDoc.
In fact, it is rather lame, compared to OpenDoc.
Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> wrote:
: I'll never understand why if Apple does not license OPENSTEP. Their
: OpenDoc software is cool, but too little too late. The MAC OS platform
: needs something more powerful to make it compelling!
: Their visionless CEO was fired for good reason- he even had the company
: turn down a license from Gateway 2000- LUDICROUS!
: Steve Jobs has vision, but as in his article in Red Herring- ~="you can
: argue who the winners and losers will be, but ultimately I knew one day
: all computers would operate like this". Well this same philosophy can
: come true again with objects. Apple could loose to Microsloth, however
: NeXT is dwarfed next to Microsloth's marketing muscle and installed
: user base. If NeXT doesn't push OPENSTEP to companies like Apple, they
: may suffer. They simply need OPENSTEP on as many different machines as
: possible. Exposure and marketing is key!
: What if Apple bought NeXT or vice versa? I think both companies have
: some of the most excellent software and hardware qualities today!
: Comments welcome!
: Eric
: SUPPORT FREE SPEECH ON THE 'NET!
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: mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu
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: "Follow our instinct, not a trend. Go against the grain until the end."
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From: nigel.stanger@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 5 Feb 1996 03:43:23 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Information Science, University of Otago
Message-ID: <nigel.stanger-0502961645120001@ou176027.otago.ac.nz>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f35qa$l1q@thor.cmp.ilstu.edu>
In article <4f35qa$l1q@thor.cmp.ilstu.edu>, bygranz@acadcomp.cmp.ilstu.edu
(Benjamin Yates Granzeau) wrote:
[...]
> unfortunately. If they combined with NeXT, I'm sorry, Apple already
> has a decent GUI, doesn't it? and isn't that all NeXT's OS is?
There's quite a bit more to it than that -- full pre-emptive multitasking,
protected memory, etc etc, and I believe the OS is fully object-oriented
(like Taligent).
=====================================================================
Nigel Stanger, Internet: nigel.stanger@stonebow.otago.ac.nz
University of Otago, Phone: +64 3 479-8179
Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND. Fax: +64 3 479-8311
From: grio@next.com (Dan Grillo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ISDN KA9Q ISPA
Date: 4 Feb 1996 22:16:00 GMT
Organization: Technical Support, NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4f3b70$9p6@news.next.com>
References: <1996Feb1.201827.258@xenicos.fdn.fr> <1996Feb3.221407.1107@xenicos.fdn.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Versions: makemail 2.8g
In article <1996Feb3.221407.1107@xenicos.fdn.fr>,
Francois BIENTZ <franc@xenicos.fdn.fr> wrote:
> I want to use a PC with KA9Q and ISPA as a ISDN router for a NEXTSTEP
> machine.But how to configure the files on the PC and on NEXTSTEP ???
I don't know what ISPA is, but I'm using a PC running KA9Q as
my ethernet<->ISDN router. Maybe I can help. Here's my set up:
--ethernet 1--+-------dos box --- nexts --- etc.----
|
[ intel ether express 1 ]
[ 286 running KA9Q ]
[ intel ether express 2 ]
|
--ethernet 2 -+--- single Mac address Combinet ISDN box
All of the machines on ethernet 1 have a default route pointing to
the KA9Q machine, interface 1. The KA9Q machine's default route
points to work. Work has a route to ethernet 1 that points to the
KA9Q interface 2.
The only devices on ethernet 2 are the Combinet and the 286.
I'm running a slightly custom version of KA9Q version 920603 on
a 286 with 4 megs of ram, with 2 ethernet cards with packet drivers,
a single 3.5 floppy drive (no hard drive) and an EGA card connected
to an Apple IIGS analog RGB monitor.
It's worked well for about a year.
--Dan
--
Dan Grillo dan@next.com 415 780-2963 MIME, NeXTmail accepted
From: terry@io.com (Terry Wilcox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 4 Feb 1996 22:33:12 -0600
Organization: Illuminati Online
Message-ID: <4f41a8$j2a@pentagon.io.com>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
In article <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>,
Lawson English <english@primenet.com> wrote:
>
>Excuse?
>
>OpenStep isn't as good as OpenDoc.
>
>In fact, it is rather lame, compared to OpenDoc.
It's always nice to see someone backing up their opinions with a good
argument.
It's probably a good thing that NeXT hasn't hitched its horse to Apple's
wagon. The wheels seem to be falling off. Maybe they should hire Sculley
back.
Terry Wilcox
--
Terry Wilcox
Arcane Systems Ltd.
terry@arcane.com
From: tlm@ameslab.gov(Dr. T. L. Marchioro II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTMail hell
Date: 5 Feb 1996 04:50:25 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <4f42ah$q6l@news.iastate.edu>
References: <4f03nn$rqm@aimnet.aimnet.com>
Lusty Wench writes
> In article <4eu7t3$fh4@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
> kevin parks <Kevin.Parks@Dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> >
> >Greetings NeXTheads!
>
> Thanks, but my head is neither a cube nor rotated 28 degrees.
>
> >how can i get it back to a text file that my NeXTMail
> >can read? is it gone forever?
>
> NextMail attachments are tar'd, compressed, and uuencoded, so
> you must undo each of those. You'll end up with at least one
> rtf file (index.rtf), and other files if you've included any
> other attachments in your message.
>
the woundrous Lusty Wench (Hi Lusty! how's the new job? Looking for
one myself now :) has basically answered the question, except for one
little point that occasionally catches people: to wit, after you
uudecode the file, it generates, as she says, a tar file. The trick
is, that file name will be of the form .tar[other stuff] and so will
not show up in your file browser if you don't have unix expert
toggled, nor will it even list in a shell window unless you say "ls
-a". mv it to something.tar.Z and then hit Opener.app for best
results :)
I seem to remember somebody posting a utility at some point that made
all of this trivial..... certainly should be easy in TickleServices,
itself another "woundrous" aspect of the NeXT cosmos.
Hope this proves helpful --- tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779
Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
Project Coordinator: Undergraduate Computational Engineering and
Sciences
http://uces.ameslab.gov/
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 5 Feb 1996 05:15:09 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4f43ot$t3j@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
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Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
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This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
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the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
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to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
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Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
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belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
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For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
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crossposting!!!
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Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
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appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
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comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
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on NEXTSTEP systems.
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Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
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To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
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ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
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Message/Partial specification
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These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
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(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
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sent as ASCII text files:
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This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
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Additions from:
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Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 01:04:43 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Message-ID: <Ql5NrvC00iVEI90JEH@andrew.cmu.edu>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
<4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 4-Feb-96 Re: Apple:
LICENSE OPENSTE.. by Lawson English@primenet.com
> Excuse?
> OpenStep isn't as good as OpenDoc.
> In fact, it is rather lame, compared to OpenDoc.
This looks like another "my-environment-is-better-than-yours" troll, but
let's have some fun anyway. How would someone objectively try to
compare the two? (And why? But we'll get to that question later on.)
Well, one click away from NeXT's homepage in the middle of a big
imagemap is HTML info on OpenStep, at
http://www.next.com/OpenStep/Welcome.html. A bunch of pages, links to
NeXT's technical support docs (called 'NeXTanswers'), a search engine,
and a whitepaper. Check on the whitepaper, and the complete OpenStep
spec is available in PostScript and RTF. Good enough.
I go to Apple's homepage. No mention of OpenDoc. Scan through "Info
about Apple". No mention of OpenDoc. Scan through "Products &
Support". No mention of OpenDoc. Scan through "Developer Services".
No mention of OpenDoc. Anyone detect a trend? There's no search engine
that I see either, so I'm not going to waste more time wandering through
Apple's web site in the hopes that I'll run across what I'm looking for.
Most people would stop here, by the way, but I'll try again and hunt via
Yahoo. Okay, good...I find http://www.opendoc.apple.com//. A couple of
HTML pages, a search engine, and a whitepaper. Sounds familar, hmm?
Not quite. I wander over to try and look at the whitepaper, at
ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple.Support.Area/opendoc/white_papers/Apple.wh
.paper.sea.hqx.
Wonderful! ...a binhex'ed self-extracting archive, readable only on a
Macintosh. How come I get the feeling that no one at Apple cares
whether anyone outside the Mac world learns about OpenDoc?
-------------
Anyway, when one looks as what OpenStep and OpenDoc are:
OpenStep is an API akin to POSIX which defines an environment to write
apps in, plus a complete set of developer tools. One out of the many
API's specified as part of the OpenStep environment is D'OLE
(Distributed OLE) that integrates with NeXT's PDO (Portable Distributed
Objects).
OpenDoc is a componentware document and app standard that helps
applications to interact better with each other in order to build
"compound documents". OpenDoc and OpenStep are quite different things;
it doesn't make much sense to compare them. If you desperately want to
compare OpenDoc to something of NeXT's, try D'OLE.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer
----------------+---------------------+---------------------
I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Lawson English <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Date: 5 Feb 1996 00:05:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet (602)395-1010
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4f4a6t$sns@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4f41a8$j2a@pentagon.io.com>
Terry Wilcox <terry@io.com> wrote:
: In article <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>,
: Lawson English <english@primenet.com> wrote:
: >
: >Excuse?
: >
: >OpenStep isn't as good as OpenDoc.
: >
: >In fact, it is rather lame, compared to OpenDoc.
: It's always nice to see someone backing up their opinions with a good
: argument.
Here's a little hint to you:
Using OpenStep, please explain how to embed the equivalent of an OpenDoc
part inside *another* OpenDOc part and than embed that inside yet *another*
one.
Now keep doing it for 3 or more times.
Now activate the innermost part and edit the content. Now save the three
inner-most parts to disk.
*Only* those three. Now embedd them in some other window.
Now e-mail them to your friend by dragging them into your message to him.
: It's probably a good thing that NeXT hasn't hitched its horse to Apple's
: wagon. The wheels seem to be falling off. Maybe they should hire Sculley
: back.
I'm glad to see someone contributing to the intelligence of the thread...
--
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Lawson English __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____
english@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ /
/ / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ /
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From: erbalch@aol.com (ERBalch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with ppp-2.2
Date: 5 Feb 1996 03:08:19 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <4f4dtj$74n@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
I am setting up dial-up PPP with PPP-2.2 and encountering some problems
with the chat command. (I think...?)
My service provider's dial in number, upon connection, sends out 25 or so
CR/LF characters to push the text like "CONNECT 19200/ARQ" off the top of
the screen before it gives you the "Username:" prompt. Now I would not
normaly assume this would cause any problems but it seems that it does
when using the chat command to handel your login script.
When I look at the ppp-2.2.log file I can see that all the scripting I
setup to get the Modem init, dialing, and connect confirmation to seemed
to work but then the (what I think are CR/LF's) come in and seem to hose
up the next chat expect(). What I see in the log looks basicly like this:
f^x^@^x^@...^^^Xx where ... is repeating ^x^@'s or somthing of the sort...
Any help that anyone can provide would be much appreciated!
Reply here or send E-Mail to: erbalch@adnc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: NeXTMail hell
Message-ID: <1996Feb4.185628.388@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4eu7t3$fh4@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 18:56:28 GMT
In article <4eu7t3$fh4@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> kevin@shadow.dartmouth.edu
(kevin parks) writes:
> Greetings NeXTheads!
>
> I recently sent some mail to someone who doesn't get NeXTMail
> and forgot to send it as non-NeXTMail and it must have had
> a font change in it or something and it went out as a :
>
> begin 666 .tar.456.Just_Just.attach
> M'YV0:=R0*8/'A1PZ9@`H7,BPH<.'$"-*G$BQ(HB+-FC0``'@(H@8&CEZO`A#
> MY,B+-U+*P!@#!HT9,FK$O.&QQ@T9,SI6W,FSI\^?0(,*'4JTJ-&C2),FW</E
>
>
> type thing. the person sent it back to me and i would
> like to make it normal and send it out again as ascii.
> I thought that i could just uudecode it by hand but when i do
> it comes out as:
>
> tar.456.Just_Just.attach
> 3:V @ (\ #J H " 6h " 9zC 7R 2j
> !o ISF 1 I 4m i! M; ( W 61d \ y A o !
>
>
> how can i get it back to a text file that my NeXTMail
> can read? is it gone forever?
>
NeXTMail with attachments is 'tar'ed, 'compress'ed, and 'uuencode'ed in
exactly that order.
> NeXTmail would be really nice if more than .000000000000001%
> of the world had it.
There is also a MIME option in NeXTMail (as of NS 3.3)!
> I wish that i could make the ascii the default. I like the NeXTmail
> app and i like to use it but for this reason i just use the shell
> usually.
>
> Also is there anyway to save send messages automatically
> in a folder so that if someone doesn't get the mail the first
> time you can find it and resend it.
>
These two questions are strictly RTFM >:-/
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp, MIME, NeXTmail # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help with ppp-2.2
Date: 5 Feb 1996 10:20:12 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-j-27.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4f4lks$h3s@usc.edu>
References: <4f4dtj$74n@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
You should be directing such questions to the ppp mailing list:
Multiple recipients of list <nextppp@chinx1.thoughtport.com>
That's where the guru's are.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
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Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 5 Feb 1996 10:29:00 GMT
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In <sagenung-040296230742@line186.ras.ilstu.edu> Scott Genung wrote:
[snippety snip]
> the hardware functions. I don't think you'll find anyone who will disagree
> with the fact that the MacOS is one of the most simple OS systems to use
on
> the market today. The reason for it's success is because it is based upon
> object oriented development. For many years, most major OS environments
[snipsnapsnup]
I didn't know that the MacOS was object oriented.
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From: edx@cc.usu.edu
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Subject: Documents in MSDOS .EXE format??
Message-ID: <1996Feb4.131241.73152@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 4 Feb 96 13:12:41 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
I see more and more public documents being distributed
as some sort of MS-DOS (or Windows or whatever) self-extracting
executable with a .exe extension.
Can anyone with more PC experience than I have tell me
what these are, and if there are any NS utilities which
can display/extract them into a more reasonable format,
like postscript?
An example of these would be the IRS Tax forms available
from http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/irs/fwforms.html.
Thanks for any and all help!
- Howard Cole
hcole@spanky.idec.sdl.usu.edu
From: Frank Seaton Taylor <prime@vt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Documents in MSDOS .EXE format??
Date: 5 Feb 1996 11:31:34 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
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In article <1996Feb4.131241.73152@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu writes:
> I see more and more public documents being distributed
> as some sort of MS-DOS (or Windows or whatever) self-extracting
> executable with a .exe extension.
<snip>
> An example of these would be the IRS Tax forms available
> from http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/irs/fwforms.html.
Usually these are PKZIP self-extracting archives. If you will rename
them <whatever>.zip, Opener.app will handle them.
As a testament to this, I have done it with two IRS publications from
the address you listed. (It didn't help much since they use some funky
windows postscript that won't preview properly---I bet it would print
though---However, I was unwilling to risk it on > 30 page documents.)
From: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: 5 Feb 1996 13:47:29 GMT
Organization: Verein der Informatikstudierenden an der ETH Zuerich
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doyle@mmm.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle) wrote in comp.sys.next.software:
: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) wrote:
: > My beta of OmniWeb v2.0 has just expired. Can anybody shed any
: > light when we might expect to see the real thing? I'm not anxious
: > to go back to v1.0.
:
: Don't know, but the 2.0 beta3b version won't expire until March 14. Try
: downloading that one.
Yep, the keyword is 'try', since OmniWeb2b3b is so buggy, I run it in gdb,
because it tends to generate Memory exceptions very often, just try to make
your way through some forms.
Or is it just me ?
-daniel
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From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 09:37:44 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 5-Feb-96 Re: Apple:
LICENSE OPENSTE.. by Lawson English@primenet.com
> Here's a little hint to you:
>
> Using OpenStep, please explain how to embed the equivalent of an OpenDoc
> part inside *another* OpenDOc part and than embed that inside yet *another*
> one.
OpenStep is not, repeat not, a compound document architecture. Asking
how one uses OpenStep to build compound documents clearly indicates that
you do not have any idea as to what OpenStep actually is.
[ ... simple document task... ]
> I'm glad to see someone contributing to the intelligence of the thread...
So am I.
In my previous message, I gave a short description and a bunch of URL's
where you can get more information. If you go read some of that,
Lawson, you might be able to contribute something useful yourself.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer
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From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXT Database w/Web Interface?
Date: 5 Feb 1996 14:59:56 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4f561c$254@news.its.com>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960201233733.6592A-100000@northshore.shore.net>
"Benjamin G. Benson" <benson@spiderline.com> wrote:
> I'm looking to start up a NEXT server on the web and would like to know
> what is available in the means of web-accessable databases. I've heard
> there are might be an easy solution to building a web searcheable
> (through perl?) database on a NEXT machine... is this true?
Yes, there are some good solutions for accessing databases via the
world-wide-web under NEXTSTEP, and they offer higher performance and are
easier to write and maintain than perl scripts.
Go look at http://www.its.com with regard to WebRex for a released product,
or you might wish to consider NeXT's WebObjects via http://www.next.com,
which is currently in beta.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
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From: "Stephane O. Genaud" <genaud@icps.u-strasbg.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LaTeX binaries
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 18:01:35 +0100
Organization: ICPS
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I have the opportunity to buy a second hand Turbo NeXT station
and before i buy it, i'd like to know if can use latex on it.
Could someone tell me where i can find a compiled version of
LaTeX for NeXT station (as i'm not sure i'll have enough space
for a gcc compiler) ? Please mail. Thanks.
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTMail hell
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 10:26:11 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960205102206.7408C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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On Sun, 4 Feb 1996, Peter Nitezki wrote:
>
> > I wish that i could make the ascii the default. I like the NeXTmail
> > app and i like to use it but for this reason i just use the shell
> > usually.
> >
> > Also is there anyway to save send messages automatically
> > in a folder so that if someone doesn't get the mail the first
> > time you can find it and resend it.
> These two questions are strictly RTFM >:-/
Well, yes, they are a little basic, but 'archive' has not always been
considered self-evident. I believe that someone answered this same
question for me some time ago, and although it seems obvious now, it
didn't then... at least to me.... Remember, NeXTStep is wonderful, but
it is different, and people who haven't got much experience on it can
probably benefit more from a real answer (or a pointed to where the
answer can be found) or no answer at all (because hopefully someone else
will either give the real answer, or at least a real pointer).
as the man said, "Everything is easy when you know what you are doing"
but when you don't, it can be downright confusing.
TjL
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From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Word rtf files and mail.app
Date: 5 Feb 1996 16:38:25 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <4f5bq1$mu9@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
G'day,
A colleague has written a chapter for a report using MS Word on his PC which
I'd like to include in my FrameMaker document on the NeXT. My glib approach was
that he should save the file in *.rtf form and MIMEmail it to me and I'd take
care of the details of prettying things up and ensuring consistency. Alas, his
message to me is of the form...
[some message words]
{\rtf1\ansi
\deff4\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f4\froman\fcharset0\fprq2
Times New Roman;}{\f5\fswiss\fcharset0\fprq2
[munch]
intercept receiver, FASP, world model, and data processing.{\i
\par }}
Alas, I cannot seem to get this into a nicely formatted -- or "readable" --
form on my NeXTstation. I checked NeXTanswers and ambled over to Peanuts
looking for help, tried using Convert_RTF, and am now seeking your assistance.
He has access to FrameMaker 5.0 -- but I cannot read that under NS. :( Do we
have a mechanism for transfer other than as straight ASCII?
Any help or pointers would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mark.
--
Dr. Mark Kotanchek
Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
From: Lawson English <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Date: 5 Feb 1996 10:39:02 -0700
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Matthew N. Reichman <reichman@scf.usc.edu> wrote:
[snipt]
: I didn't know that the MacOS was object oriented.
The original concepts of the Mac are all obviously object-oriented. Much
of the model was taken from XEROX's SmallTalk environment, which was the
original OO OS.
Unfortunately, MacOS was implemented in Pascal. Object Pascal didn't
appear until many years later and still wouldn't have been suitable
(IMHO) for writing an OO OS.
All of the concepts of the Mac GUI, windows, menus, controls, event
loops, etc., are very object-oriented. They're just implemented using
non-OOP techniques.
Larger structures and libraries are quite modular and certain resources,
such as the Component Manager and Gestalt Manager are kludges meant to
implement OOP-like services in a more OOP-like way.
QuickDraw GX and QUickDraw 3D are strictly OO (almost), but one must
include an
extra parameter when making a library call to specify WHICH graphical object
one is refering to since the API is language-neutral and doesn't allow
for standard OO language techniques like V-tables or whatever.
OpenDoc is the same way.
Copland will make QuickDraw GX, QUickDraw 3D and original QUIckDraw a
combined API, and will include OpenDOc as part of the OS.
Gershwin should make OpenDoc and SOM the center of the OS, so that new
facilities can replace or enhance built-in ones in an OOP way without the
current kludginess (inits, components, etc).
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From: fordp@polaris.net (Perrone Ford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 5 Feb 1996 12:16:07 -0500
Organization: Polaris Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <4f5e0n$8jb@nexus.polaris.net>
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Benjamin Yates Granzeau (bygranz@acadcomp.cmp.ilstu.edu) wrote:
: Eric Dubiel (eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu) wrote:
: As for Apple, they will always have a market share, but will never be
: as powerful as microsoft. MS is basically able to push it's way around
: now, barring a anti-trust suit. It will prolly always keep macs down,
: unfortunately. If they combined with NeXT, I'm sorry, Apple already
: has a decent GUI, doesn't it? and isn't that all NeXT's OS is?
Oh boy... Whil I must admit that I am not a big fan of Apple, particularly
of the Macintosh, I will admit that it has a simple and good GUI. But I
cannot accept that NS is just a Descent GUI. Some people LIKE having an OS
that can Multi-task well. Not to mention Builit-in Pantone support, TCP-IP
that works, Server Capability, Networking ability that is plug and play,
Display Postscript so WYSIWYG is for REAL, and some semblence of REAL security
at the OS level. I suggest that before you demean a fine OS, you at least take
the time to find out it's strengths AND weaknesses.
: i have accepted that macs are better than pc's in ways, even though i
: could be shot by some of my own friends for saying that.
Sure macs are better than PC's in some ways. No one with half a brain would
argue this seriously. However, the Mac platform leave a LOT to be desired,
hence Apple's market share. Better ideas + Good marketing = Larger Market
Share. And isn't it ironic that the author compares Apple to MS, whn MS does
not even BUILD hardware! Why not compare MS to something similar like Adobe
or other large Mac software mogul?
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From: Lawson English <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 5 Feb 1996 10:24:02 -0700
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Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
[snipt]
: I go to Apple's homepage. No mention of OpenDoc. Scan through "Info
: about Apple". No mention of OpenDoc. Scan through "Products &
: Support". No mention of OpenDoc. Scan through "Developer Services".
: No mention of OpenDoc. Anyone detect a trend? There's no search engine
: that I see either, so I'm not going to waste more time wandering through
: Apple's web site in the hopes that I'll run across what I'm looking for.
Since APple is not in charge of opendoc, perhaps you were expecting more
than you should have?
: Most people would stop here, by the way, but I'll try again and hunt via
: Yahoo. Okay, good...I find http://www.opendoc.apple.com//. A couple of
: HTML pages, a search engine, and a whitepaper. Sounds familar, hmm?
: Not quite. I wander over to try and look at the whitepaper, at
: ftp://ftp.info.apple.com/Apple.Support.Area/opendoc/white_papers/Apple.wh
: .paper.sea.hqx.
: Wonderful! ...a binhex'ed self-extracting archive, readable only on a
: Macintosh. How come I get the feeling that no one at Apple cares
: whether anyone outside the Mac world learns about OpenDoc?
Because Apple's OpenDoc page is geared towards Apple developers. Had you
looked at the bottom, you would have found:
>Overview< | >Developer Showcase<| >Developer Depot<
| >OpenDoc in the News< | >OpenDoc Upfront<
Checking >Overview<, you would have found:
[IMAGE] >OpenDoc General Overview<
[IMAGE] >Frequently Asked Questions<
[IMAGE] >Overview for end users< [IMAGE] 314K
[IMAGE] >Overview for Developers< [IMAGE] 281K
[IMAGE] >Technical White Paper< This white paper offers a comprehensive
general overview of the technology and principles behind OpenDoc.
At the bottom, you would have found:
[IMAGE] >CILabs<
A vendor-neutral association formed in order to provide an
infrastructure to help the industry make a smooth transition to
component software. Members include >Apple<, >IBM<, >Novell<, >Adobe<, and
>Taligent<
: Anyway, when one looks as what OpenStep and OpenDoc are:
: OpenStep is an API akin to POSIX which defines an environment to write
: apps in, plus a complete set of developer tools. One out of the many
: API's specified as part of the OpenStep environment is D'OLE
: (Distributed OLE) that integrates with NeXT's PDO (Portable Distributed
: Objects).
: OpenDoc is a componentware document and app standard that helps
: applications to interact better with each other in order to build
: "compound documents". OpenDoc and OpenStep are quite different things;
: it doesn't make much sense to compare them. If you desperately want to
: compare OpenDoc to something of NeXT's, try D'OLE.
Actually, OpenDoc is a CORBA-compliant standard that enables "parts" to
interact. Applications in the traditional sense don't exist unless you
want to creat a transitional "container" application.
If you desperately want to compare OpenDoc to D'OLE, feel free, but
applications aren't really "part" of the OpenDoc model and are considered
rather obsolete for most purposes.
And Apple and IBM are both implementing tools and libraries to create
parts. I'm not familiar with IBM's, but Apple has made the preliminary
version of the OpenDOc Parts Framework available for downloading.
So, OpenDoc with ODF is, by your rough description, to be compared to
OpenStep with D'OLE.
Fine.
Alright, now explain how OpenStep, with D'OLE, could be used to implement
a CyberD9g-like suite, or anything else OpenDoc-like?
OpenDoc changes the way in which programming is done. Does OpenStep?
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From: droux@nmia.com (Nicolas Droux)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Where are the NEXTSTEP 3.3 patches ?
Date: 3 Feb 1996 07:52:42 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Internet Access
Message-ID: <4ev48a$fdl@thales.nmia.com>
I was going to patch my 3.3 system this week-end but I could not find the 3.3
patches on ftp.next.com anymore!
So, what do we have to do now to get them? Is the CD freely available from
NeXT for registered users? (it should be in my opinion...)
--
Nicolas Droux, droux@cs.sandia.gov
35 05' 02" N, 106 39' 01" W
From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: 5 Feb 1996 17:33:45 GMT
Organization: Academic and Research Network of Slovenia
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In <4f51ph$ghs@elna.ethz.ch> Daniel Gerald Kluge wrote:
> Yep, the keyword is 'try', since OmniWeb2b3b is so buggy, I run it in gdb,
> because it tends to generate Memory exceptions very often, just try to
make
> your way through some forms.
>
> Or is it just me ?
>
> -daniel
>
BTW, does anybody know, how to save images to disk in OmniWeb?
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From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 14:38:28 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 5-Feb-96 Re: Apple:
LICENSE OPENSTEP!!! by Lawson English@primenet.
> So, OpenDoc with ODF is, by your rough description, to be compared to
> OpenStep with D'OLE.
>
> Fine.
No, you still don't get it. OpenStep comes closer to being the top
layers of an operating system (everything except the kernel and device
drivers). OpenStep hides most of the lower layers in a portable
fashion, so you can write an OpenStep app and run it on Win-NT, or Sun
Solaris, or on Mach, etc.
OpenStep with D'OLE closely compares to MacOS with OpenDoc.
> Alright, now explain how OpenStep, with D'OLE, could be used to implement
> a CyberD9g-like suite, or anything else OpenDoc-like?
Wrong order, Lawson; you were the one comparing OpenStep to OpenDoc when
you didn't even understand what OpenStep is. If you want to make some
kind of point, fine: prove that one cannot implement "a CyberD9g-like
suite" (whatever that may be) under OpenStep.
> OpenDoc changes the way in which programming is done. Does OpenStep?
Everything someone uses "changes the way programming is done." OpenStep
does this too, although I'm not very impressed by the pure marketspeak
in that a phrase.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer
----------------+---------------------+---------------------
I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mark@nextstep.cm.nctu.edu.tw (Lin Yi-chih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 5 Feb 1996 19:23:12 GMT
Organization: Dept. Comp. Sci. & Info. Eng., Chiao-Tung Univ., Taiwan
Distribution: world
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> Lawson English <english@primenet.com> writes:
> The original concepts of the Mac are all obviously object-oriented. Much
> of the model was taken from XEROX's SmallTalk environment, which was the
> original OO OS.
What do you mean the OO OS?
The Programing environment is OO?
The kernel is OO?
The User Environment is OO? ( I guess that's why M$ Win95 = Mac84,
right? )
Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 5-Feb-96 Re: Apple:
LICENSE OPENSTE.. by Lawson English@primenet.com
> Here's a little hint to you:
>
> Using OpenStep, please explain how to embed the equivalent of an OpenDoc
> part inside *another* OpenDOc part and than embed that inside yet
> *another* one.
>Actually, OpenDoc is a CORBA-compliant standard that enables "parts" to
>interact. Applications in the traditional sense don't exist unless you
>want to creat a transitional "container" application.
Funny, because "CORBA-compliant"? So you compare OpenDoc with OpenStep?
OpenDoc should belong to CORBAfacilities and NeXT's Object Model
play much more important role on COBRAservices
Also,
OpenDoc and OLE are both some kind of proposal of CORBAfacilities,
I never hear "standard" of CORBAfacilities ...
Mark
From: smbakh@milind (Milind Bakhle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Word rtf files and mail.app
Date: 5 Feb 1996 20:28:28 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Message-ID: <4f5p9c$qe0@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
References: <4f5bq1$mu9@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
Mark E. Kotanchek (mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu) wrote:
: Alas, I cannot seem to get this into a nicely formatted
: -- or "readable" -- form on my NeXTstation.
Maybe you have already tried this, but ...
Open a new "plain text" (not "rich text") document in Edit.app.
If your preferences are set to open new documents as UNTITLED.rtf,
you can switch the document type using Format->Text->Make ASCII.
Copy/paste all the rtf text from the e-mail message into the Edit
document. Save it as filename.rtf. Make sure that Edit.app
preferences ("Temporary Settings") are set to "Edit Rich Text
Format" and not "Ignore Rich Text Format". Open filename.rtf,
and Edit should "interpret" the rtf formatting.
I have tried this and it worked for me.
--
Milind A. Bakhle
bakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
From: smbakh@milind (Milind Bakhle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Questions about tin 1.2
Date: 5 Feb 1996 20:40:29 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Message-ID: <4f5pvt$qt1@sulawesi.lerc.nasa.gov>
Hello.
I have been quite happy with tin, but I have two questions.
Maybe some tin-users could comment. I tried to e-mail
Sean Luke <sean@digaudio.byu.edu> listed in the readme file
but, the mail bounced.
When I post, or follow-up on an article, the author's name
shows up only as username@host (without the domain name).
I get smbakh@milind, instead of smbakh@milind.lerc.nasa.gov.
Is there something I can do to correct this? Where does tin
pickup this info from. Is there some environment variable that
I can set?
The other thing is: when I hold down the arrow key to scroll
down the list of articles (or newsgroups) the highlight bar
is sometimes re-drawn in several places, rather than on just
the current selection. Is this something that is specific to
my setup, or is this a limitation of tin? Is this something
I can fix using the settings in Terminal.app?
Hope someone can comment on these. Thanks.
--
Milind A. Bakhle
bakhle@lerc.nasa.gov
From: kcarroll@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Listserve software
Date: 5 Feb 1996 20:40:24 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4f5pvo$ja2@nntp5.u.washington.edu>
I'm looking for listserve software that will run on an old cube or short of
that a good unix package.
TIA
Kris Carroll
kcarroll@u.washington.edu
From: cshyneso@starnet.gov.sg (Chuang Shyne Song)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Satan 1.1.1 and NeXTSTEP
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 31 Jan 1996 14:49:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4envh5$dl7@mercury.starnet.gov.sg>
References: <4djq34$1e7@news.petrel.ch>
Jacques Garbi (jacques.garbi@colombus.ch) wrote:
: Hi,
: Did anyone succeeded in compiling Satan 1.1.1 for NS 3.3 Intel ?
: How ? Is there an already compiled package somewhere ?
: Thanks
Get NextAnswer 1893 from NeXT. It describes how you can compile Satan on
NextStep.
Hope this helps.
Song
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Regional IT Infrastructure
Union Bank of Switzerland, Singapore NextMail: csong@tip.com.sg
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: gibraltar!wiley (Wiley S. Hodges)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Solution to OmniWeb Expiring (new beta 3)
Date: 5 Feb 1996 19:51:15 GMT
Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4f5n3j$3f8@lighthouse.lighthouse.com>
Keywords: OmniWeb, expire, beta
We've been inundated with phone calls and e-mails at Lighthouse
concerning the expiration of licenses for the old OmniWeb betas.
First, I should say that there is a new beta version available from
the following two sites:
temporarily:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/OmniWeb-2.0-beta-3b.app.
tar.gz
and at an alternate site:
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/web/OmniWeb_f/02-BETA/OmniWeb-2.0b3b_N
IHS.tar.gz
Second, these beta versions will themselves expire. We've had people
say some very nasty things about expiring software in the past few
days, but it's very important that these expire so that the feedback
we get always reflects the most recent version of the app, rather
than something which is over a month old.
Thanks for your support, and we look forward to hearing your feedback
at omniweb@lighthouse.com
From: Lawson English <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Date: 5 Feb 1996 15:51:03 -0700
Organization: Primenet (602)395-1010
Sender: root@primenet.com
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4f61kn$egk@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <4f5fbm$r7q@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4f5lf0$4qe@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>
Lin Yi-chih <mark@nextstep.cm.nctu.edu.tw> wrote:
: > Lawson English <english@primenet.com> writes:
: > The original concepts of the Mac are all obviously object-oriented. Much
: > of the model was taken from XEROX's SmallTalk environment, which was the
: > original OO OS.
: What do you mean the OO OS?
: The Programing environment is OO?
Yes.
: The kernel is OO?
Pretty much, yes.
: The User Environment is OO? ( I guess that's why M$ Win95 = Mac84,
: right? )
Yes.
: Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 5-Feb-96 Re: Apple:
: LICENSE OPENSTE.. by Lawson English@primenet.com
: > Here's a little hint to you:
: >
: > Using OpenStep, please explain how to embed the equivalent of an OpenDoc
: > part inside *another* OpenDOc part and than embed that inside yet
: > *another* one.
: >Actually, OpenDoc is a CORBA-compliant standard that enables "parts" to
: >interact. Applications in the traditional sense don't exist unless you
: >want to creat a transitional "container" application.
: Funny, because "CORBA-compliant"? So you compare OpenDoc with OpenStep?
: OpenDoc should belong to CORBAfacilities and NeXT's Object Model
: play much more important role on COBRAservices
OPenDoc uses SOM, currently. My understanding is that there is no reason
why OpenDOc couldn't use another CORBA-compliant facility.
: Also,
: OpenDoc and OLE are both some kind of proposal of CORBAfacilities,
: I never hear "standard" of CORBAfacilities ...
If all goes well, OpenDoc will soon become the compound document standard
for CORBA.
--
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english@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ /
/ / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ /
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From: mikeb@innotts.co.uk (mike)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: enhance software --- NEW !!!!
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 23:01:21 GMT
Organization: The Bridge
Message-ID: <4f626p$4o8@mapperley.innotts.co.uk>
http://www.innotts.co.uk/enhance/software/software.htm
enhance@innotts.co.uk
Internet Applications For Windows FTP.IRC.E-MAIL.
HTML.ARCHIE.NEWS.WEB.TERMINAL.FINGER.VRML.TALK.
PLUG-IN.GRAPHICS.ART.AUDIO.GOPHER.
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Word rtf files and mail.app
Date: 6 Feb 1996 00:20:50 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-15.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4f66t2$9m2@usc.edu>
References: <4f5bq1$mu9@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
In <4f5bq1$mu9@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Mark E. Kotanchek wrote:
> G'day,
>
> A colleague has written a chapter for a report using MS Word on his PC
which
> I'd like to include in my FrameMaker document on the NeXT. My glib
approach was
> that he should save the file in *.rtf form and MIMEmail it to me and I'd
take
> care of the details of prettying things up and ensuring consistency. Alas,
his
> message to me is of the form...
>
> [some message words]
>
> {\rtf1\ansi
> \deff4\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f4\froman\fcharset0\fprq2
> Times New Roman;}{\f5\fswiss\fcharset0\fprq2
> [munch]
> intercept receiver, FASP, world model, and data processing.{\i
> \par }}
>
> Alas, I cannot seem to get this into a nicely formatted -- or "readable"
--
> form on my NeXTstation. I checked NeXTanswers and ambled over to Peanuts
> looking for help, tried using Convert_RTF, and am now seeking your
assistance.
>
> He has access to FrameMaker 5.0 -- but I cannot read that under NS. :( Do
we
> have a mechanism for transfer other than as straight ASCII?
>
> Any help or pointers would be much appreciated.
The simplest is to take the rMS rtf email message and forward it to
yourself as a MIME message. The formatting comes out just fine.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Word rtf files and mail.app
Date: 6 Feb 1996 01:14:08 GMT
Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content
Message-ID: <4f6a10$rfc@miwok.nbn.com>
References: <4f5bq1$mu9@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
> A colleague has written a chapter for a report using MS Word on his PC
which
> I'd like to include in my FrameMaker document on the NeXT. My glib
approach was
> that he should save the file in *.rtf form and MIMEmail it to me and I'd
take
> care of the details of prettying things up and ensuring consistency. Alas,
his
> message to me is of the form...
>
> [some message words]
>
> {\rtf1\ansi
> \deff4\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f4\froman\fcharset0\fprq2
> Times New Roman;}{\f5\fswiss\fcharset0\fprq2
> [munch]
> intercept receiver, FASP, world model, and data processing.{\i
> \par }}
>
Hi There:
Try copying out the text starting from " {\rtf1\ansi" into an open Edit
window. Save the file with the .rtf extention then open the file again. What
you're looking at in your mail message is "raw" RTF (in other word the text
plus the tagging informatioj). The Edit.app interprets the tags then
displays nice looking formatted text.
Cheers,
John
http://www.gscorp.com
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmincomp.sys.next.hardwarecomp.sys.next.hardwarecomp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Recordable CD ROM Drive on NeXT?
Date: 6 Feb 1996 02:10:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <4f6daj$gvv@news.service.uci.edu>
Anybody used A recordable CD ROM Drive on NeXT?
Do you need any software to be able to write on the drive?
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
--
Feng Liu, Assistant Professor
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717-3975
phone: 714-824-3105, or 714-824-5406(MAE Department)
Fax: 714-824-3105, or 714-824-8585(MAE Department)
From: rueiwun@gas.uug.arizona.edu (Ruei-wun Tu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: 5 Feb 1996 23:57:45 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <4f65hp$b38@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
References: <4etbvl$lnl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <4etrqi$nnc@newshost.lanl.gov>
<4f51ph$ghs@elna.ethz.ch> <4f5f1p$fkb@cmir.arnes.si>
In <4f5f1p$fkb@cmir.arnes.si> Jonas Znidarsic wrote:
> In <4f51ph$ghs@elna.ethz.ch> Daniel Gerald Kluge wrote:
> > Yep, the keyword is 'try', since OmniWeb2b3b is so buggy, I run it in
gdb,
> > because it tends to generate Memory exceptions very often, just try to
> make
> > your way through some forms.
> >
> > Or is it just me ?
> >
> > -daniel
> >
>
> BTW, does anybody know, how to save images to disk in OmniWeb?
>
>
>
If you saw a highlighted text said "xxx.jpg" or whatever you know it's a
picture, hold on Command key and click left button of your mouse. OmniWeb
will download that image file into the download directory you set in your
Preference.
If you saw a picture already showed on, hold on Control key and drag that
picture into any folder of the Fileviewer.
Hope this will help...
--
,,,
(. .)
+---oOO--(_)--OOo-----------------------------------------------+
Rueiwun Tu | ?? What's so good about NeXTSTEP ??
rueiwun@gas.uug.arizona.edu | !! It upsets you everyday !!
Dept. of MIS, U. or Arizona | -- a NeXTmaniac
From: stimpy@sojourn1.sojourn.com (gcl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: 6 Feb 1996 03:26:51 GMT
Organization: Sojourn Systems. Lansing, MI (USA)
Message-ID: <4f6hpr$1sv@tkhut.sojourn.com>
References: <4etbvl$lnl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <4etrqi$nnc@newshost.lanl.gov>
Jonas Znidarsic (jonas@eunet.si) wrote:
: In <4f51ph$ghs@elna.ethz.ch> Daniel Gerald Kluge wrote:
: > Yep, the keyword is 'try', since OmniWeb2b3b is so buggy, I run it in gdb,
: > because it tends to generate Memory exceptions very often, just try to
:> make your way through some forms.
: BTW, does anybody know, how to save images to disk in OmniWeb?
I kind of have the same question...... In Omniweb v1.0 there was a
directorry that kept all the files that were used to write to your
screen, and when you exited OmniWeb v1 it deleted it...
I can't find that dir for v2.0beta... ANy one know where it is?
I set my default to /tmp/omniweb but all that it puts there is
the files that get d/led...
any ideas?
thanx
gary
--
__________________________________________________________________
gcl@sojourn.com NeXTmail is prefered!
Founder of the NeXTstep for Intel Processors HomeBrew Mailing List
Proud owner of NeXT Cube #4173 running NeXTstep v1.0
__________________________________________________________________
From: rdean@heartland.bradley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 6 Feb 1996 05:49:51 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University-IS/Network Services
Message-ID: <4f6q5v$l5l@thor.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f35qa$l1q@thor.cmp.ilstu.edu>
>As for Apple, they will always have a market share, but will never be
>as powerful as microsoft. MS is basically able to push it's way around
>now, barring a anti-trust suit. It will prolly always keep macs down,
>unfortunately. If they combined with NeXT, I'm sorry, Apple already
>has a decent GUI, doesn't it? and isn't that all NeXT's OS is?
No, NeXT's OS is a UNIX, Mach *Microkernal* based operating system, relying
heavily upon objects--which is the biggest attraction of the system.
Most of the buzzwords that are all the rage in computing today can be traced
back to NeXTSTEP as the first OS to implement. Microkernals are all the rage
now, as well as drag-n-drop and object-oriented programming. Microsoft
actually bought some NeXT machines so they could analyze the OS and try
to copy/steal some things.
From: rdean@heartland.bradley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 6 Feb 1996 05:44:22 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University-IS/Network Services
Message-ID: <4f6prm$l5l@thor.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
They won't need to. GNU is currently working on GNUSTEP, which is a NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP
compatible environment. They're working on porting it to various *NIX and OS/2.
OpenDoc is picking up steam. More and more people are realizing that it is a superior
architecture to OLE. It is more robust and secure. When these technologies start to
be distributed to the web, OLE will allow an OCX control complete access to the system,
while OpenDoc objects aren't so forgiving. Unscrupulous web sites could distribute
OCX viruses.
In <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> writes:
>I'll never understand why if Apple does not license OPENSTEP. Their
>OpenDoc software is cool, but too little too late. The MAC OS platform
>needs something more powerful to make it compelling!
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: Problems compiling PGP 2.6.3i on NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <DMBM3K.1An@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <1996Jan29.185557.13818@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 20:54:55 GMT
In article <1996Jan29.185557.13818@aurora.in-berlin.de>
ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen) writes:
> > I just got the sources of the new version 2.6.3i of PGP and tried
> > to compile it under NEXTSTEP OS 3.3 (user + developer) on black
> > hardware.
>
> Here's a quick hack to circumvent this problem: Just add the line
>
> #define strdup(s) NXCopyStringBuffer(s)
>
> to the file ../src/pgp.c and then 'make next' - it works! :)
Ok, that works (the tip from http://www.ifi.uio.no/pgp/bugs.shtml
does _not_ work with NeXtstep).
But there is another problem, which is also mentioned on that web
page: pgp 2.6.3 treats documents wih lines longer than 132 chars as
binary files. So it nearly impossible for me to sign a longer article
without making it unreadable (I use NXPGP as an interface for the
service menu).
In version 2.6.2ui there is no such problem, so I switched back to
it.
Michael
--
Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen,
Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 543915
Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
PGP : Public Key on demand
From: neuss@sun39 (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Word rtf files and mail.app
Date: 6 Feb 1996 12:22:53 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Systemarchitektur, TH Darmstadt, Germany
Message-ID: <4f7h6t$500@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <4f5bq1$mu9@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
Mark E. Kotanchek (mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu) wrote:
: G'day,
: A colleague has written a chapter for a report using MS Word on his PC which
: I'd like to include in my FrameMaker document on the NeXT.
: [some message words]
: {\rtf1\ansi
: \deff4\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f4\froman\fcharset0\fprq2
: Times New Roman;}{\f5\fswiss\fcharset0\fprq2
: [munch]
: intercept receiver, FASP, world model, and data processing.{\i
: \par }}
:
The most convenient way is..
* markup the rtf part (everything from {\rtf to the closing})
and press cmd-c for "Copy"
* open a terminal window
* type "paste > myfile.rtf" in the terminal window
* To open Edit, doubleclick on myfile.rtf
or import it into FrameMaker, or whatever
If your colleague has a MIME compliant mailer (one thats not broken),
you can also ask him to try and send the RTF file as an attachment.
Best wishes, Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.."
// neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
// +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 6 Feb 1996 02:34:27 -0800
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Message-ID: <jcr.823602543@idiom.com>
References: <4f5fbm$r7q@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4f5lf0$4qe@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <4f61kn$egk@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
Lawson English <english@primenet.com> writes:
>: > Lawson English <english@primenet.com> writes:
>: > The original concepts of the Mac are all obviously object-oriented. Much
>: > of the model was taken from XEROX's SmallTalk environment, which was the
>: > original OO OS.
Lawson, not to be contentious here, but you don't know what you're talking
about.
I worked on the Mac for five years, from late '84 on, and the Macintosh
develpment environments had no concept of an OO environment until the
Think Class Libary and the MacApp frameworks showed up around '87.
The saddest thing about the Mac was that the Apple people went to XEROX,
looked at a smalltalk system, and saw the GUI, COMPLETELY MISSING THE
OO CONCEPT. They went back to apple, and made the Lisa, then the Mac.
They saw visual presentation, and missed the far more important concept.
I wish Apple *had* grokked objects back in '80. The Mac would have been
a far more useful platform if they had.
-jcr
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How can I make a gif or jpg image with a transparent background ?
Date: 3 Feb 1996 16:12:43 GMT
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <4f01hr$lp@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com>
References: <4ead4v$9qc@news.petrel.ch> <DLvnpo.7y4@musical.fdn.org>
<4ehobn$rfn@news4.digex.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In <4ehobn$rfn@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote:
> Yes, or one can use giftrans...but the point is, it would be nice
> to go from .tiff straight to .gif w/ alpha... Or better yet, from
> Xformat, to .gif w/ alpha.
>
> I wish someone would put this into their image filter software.
> I'd even be willing to shell out $150 to the Baccus folks if they
> would integrate such a thing into PixelMagcian...
Just buy TIFFany there is an excellent GIFsaver module
with alpha, interlace and Netscape option available for all
versions >2.30.
--
who? // Dipl.-Phys. Markus Wenzel
work? // Navigator - IT Consulting & System administration
mail? // mow@navigator.de
more? // http://www.neworbit.de/navigator/
From: vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is there project planning software?
Date: 5 Feb 1996 14:16:33 GMT
Organization: Cleveland Clinic Foundation
Message-ID: <4f53g1$48q@slider.bme.ri.ccf.org>
I'm feeling the need to get my hands on some project planning software. I know
there is stuff like Project Manager for Windows, but I'd like to use something
on my NeXT. I need to develop timelines and critical path plots. Anything
like that available for black hardware?
Please send e-mail. Thank you.
--
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Associate Staff
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Cleveland Clinic Foundation
vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I'm in dire need of a x,y,zmodem solution for NS3.3
Date: 6 Feb 1996 15:44:02 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
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In article <4er2qb$n6s@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
writes:
> Since Microphone Pro doesn't work on NS3.3 and I sold it anyway.
I once modified the source for tipx to run on black hardware. The stuff is on
peanuts:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de//pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/communicat
ion/zm_tip_modified.NI.bs.tar.gz
It worked fine for me, but this was back in 1994. Give it a try!
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From: kurtg@iastate.edu (Kurt Glaesemann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 6 Feb 1996 14:12:26 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <4f7nka$b6s@news.iastate.edu>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4f41a8$j2a@pentagon.io.com> <4f4a6t$sns@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
Well, for those who want a "unix" like environment, you might look at
Apple's port of linux to the powermac:
For information on the port see http://www.mklinux.apple.com/
They hope to have it done this year.
First NuBus powermac's. PCI later.
Source code will be free.
Runs on top of the Mach microkernal.
BUT, You have to reboot to switch from linux to MacOS
--
kurtg@iastate.edu
From: Lawson English <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 6 Feb 1996 08:46:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet (602)395-1010
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Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
: Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 5-Feb-96 Re: Apple:
: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!! by Lawson English@primenet.
: > So, OpenDoc with ODF is, by your rough description, to be compared to
: > OpenStep with D'OLE.
: >
: > Fine.
: No, you still don't get it. OpenStep comes closer to being the top
: layers of an operating system (everything except the kernel and device
: drivers). OpenStep hides most of the lower layers in a portable
: fashion, so you can write an OpenStep app and run it on Win-NT, or Sun
: Solaris, or on Mach, etc.
: OpenStep with D'OLE closely compares to MacOS with OpenDoc.
Which is what I said in the first place, save that OpenDoc goes one or
two steps beyond OpenStep.
: > Alright, now explain how OpenStep, with D'OLE, could be used to implement
: > a CyberD9g-like suite, or anything else OpenDoc-like?
: Wrong order, Lawson; you were the one comparing OpenStep to OpenDoc when
: you didn't even understand what OpenStep is. If you want to make some
: kind of point, fine: prove that one cannot implement "a CyberD9g-like
: suite" (whatever that may be) under OpenStep.
That should have been "CyberDog."
However, since I obviously DO know what OpenStep is, since you finally
ended up agreeing with me that OpenDoc compares to OpenStep
OpenStep comes closer to being the top
: layers of an operating system (everything except the kernel and device
: drivers). OpenStep hides most of the lower layers in a portable
: fashion, so you can write an OpenStep app and run it on Win-NT, or Sun
: Solaris, or on Mach, etc.
Since that is what OpenDOc does, I'm not sure why you are saying that I
don't know what OpenStep is.
: > OpenDoc changes the way in which programming is done. Does OpenStep?
: Everything someone uses "changes the way programming is done." OpenStep
: does this too, although I'm not very impressed by the pure marketspeak
: in that a phrase.
OK, let's look at an OpenDoc part:
You've written it, compiled it with SOM and C++ (currently the only
language that is supported for it on the Mac) natively, and have saved it in
the editors folder.
Now you create your stationary (double-clickable thingie) and put it in
the stationary folder.
NOW, you evoke that part-editor by clicking on the stationary. Up pops a
window that has your part-editor as its root part.
Say that you've decided that your primary task is text-editing, so that's
your root part. You type away. NOW, you decide that you want to get
artistic. You drag the stationary for a drawing part into your window and
start drawing. You decide to change the shape of your frame to outline
your part and do so, and select "text wraparound" in your text-part's
menu (menus change automatically to reflect which part is being edited).
Your text automagically flows around the embedded drawing.
Now make another copy of your drawing part, either by dragging or by copy
and paste. Make a new drawing in that part and the text flows around it
as well. Drag a simpler text-part into the embedded drawing part and type
a label. Drag an even simpler icon-drawing part into the label-part and
have a tiny icon dotting your "i".
Decide that one of your drawings is pretty cool, all by itself. Select
the drawing and drag it to the desktop to save it as a seperate document.
All the embedded parts are saved right along with it: the drawing itself,
the label, and the cute little heart-icon that "dots" your "i."
Now, you decide that you want to email someone your drawing. You fire up
CyberDog and start typing away. You chose your own cute little pictoral
header, and drag (the copy on disk or the original) the drawing from your
text-part to your e-mail window. This creates a MIME file of it and puts
an icon refering to it at the bottom of the e-mail. Your buddy on the
other end double-clicks on the icon, which evokes HIS copy of hte
part-editors on his machine and opens up an exact duplicate of the
drawing that you made, complete with label, and cute little heart-icon
over the "i."
While you're using CyberDog, you decide to go Web-surfing. You find a
REALLY spiffy webpage that pertains to what you are writing about. You
create a CyberButton and embed THAT in your text, where it appears as a
blank frame. You embedd some snazzy graphics and whenever you want to go
back to that webpage, clicking on the CyberButton embedded in your text
opens up your Webbrowser and there you are. Ditto with any other kind of
CyberDog Internet browser. They are all CyberButton-able. And since a
CyberButton is a full-fledged part, you can embed it in anything.
ANd since CyberDog is OpenDoc based, you can extend the capabilities to
allow dynamic linking of data on the internet (say, a real-time stock
quoter) with a spreadsheet part and/or a graphing part, and have
everything be updated off of the internet.
You can then save the whole document, open another email window, drag the
icon off the desktop into the window, and your friend now has a complete
copy of your entire document, including dynamically updateable
spreadsheet/chart parts which can be evoked by a single click on the
CyberButton.
And the content of your document can be as sophisticated as you like. The
potential layout of parts within parts within parts was designed to be
capable of producing page-layouts as sophisticated and complicated as
anything that could be produced with PageMaker/FreeHand/Quark/etc.
Except that ANYTHING can be a part, not just text/graphics. And
"anything" includes dynamically updated information which can be linked
using standard scripting or custom messaging to any other part.
Amd the updating of parts by other parts by internet sites can take place
while you are editing still other parts within the same document/window.
Try doing THAT with a Cola nut....
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From: Lawson English <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Date: 6 Feb 1996 08:59:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet (602)395-1010
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John C. Randolph <jcr@idiom.com> wrote:
: Lawson English <english@primenet.com> writes:
: >: > Lawson English <english@primenet.com> writes:
: >: > The original concepts of the Mac are all obviously object-oriented. Much
: >: > of the model was taken from XEROX's SmallTalk environment, which was the
: >: > original OO OS.
: Lawson, not to be contentious here, but you don't know what you're talking
: about.
: I worked on the Mac for five years, from late '84 on, and the Macintosh
: develpment environments had no concept of an OO environment until the
: Think Class Libary and the MacApp frameworks showed up around '87.
: The saddest thing about the Mac was that the Apple people went to XEROX,
: looked at a smalltalk system, and saw the GUI, COMPLETELY MISSING THE
: OO CONCEPT. They went back to apple, and made the Lisa, then the Mac.
: They saw visual presentation, and missed the far more important concept.
: I wish Apple *had* grokked objects back in '80. The Mac would have been
: a far more useful platform if they had.
Let me get this straight:
You're saying that a Macintosh window is NOT an object?
ROTFL.
Of course it is. It's a bastardized object that uses almost no inheritance
and the method-calling implementation is piss-poor. While
the implementers of the Mac GUI may not have understood
how object-oriented programming is supposed to work, they certainly
attempted to implement it anyways. Admittedly a crude, clumsy and almost
completely unusable implementation, but the Mac GUI IS object-based, even if it
isn't truely object-ORIENTED.
And, BTW, to suggest that the LIsa was human-centric before the Mac is to
show that YOU don't know what you are talking about.
The Lisa project was proposed after the Mac project, but started first.
It was a text-only project that had a GUI pasted on top of it after Jobs
was sent to XEROX by Raskin so that he would stop fighting the idea of
the human-centric Macintosh project.
The Mac *always* had a bitmapped interface, and was the brainchild of
Raskin, who pretty much invented the concept of WYSIWYG printing, as
published in his 1967 Master's Thesis, "The Quick Draw Graphics Engine."
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From: shess@parka.winternet.com (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 06 Feb 1996 11:56:12 -0600
Organization: Is a sign of weakness
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In-reply-to: Lawson English's message of 6 Feb 1996 08:46:01 -0700
In article <4f7t3p$a4e@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>,
Lawson English <english@primenet.com> writes:
>Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy> 5-Feb-96 Re: Apple:
>> LICENSE OPENSTEP!!! by Lawson English@primenet.
>> > So, OpenDoc with ODF is, by your rough description, to be
>> > compared to OpenStep with D'OLE.
>> >
>> > Fine.
>>
>> No, you still don't get it. OpenStep comes closer to being the
>> top layers of an operating system (everything except the kernel
>> and device drivers). OpenStep hides most of the lower layers
>> in a portable fashion, so you can write an OpenStep app and run
>> it on Win-NT, or Sun Solaris, or on Mach, etc.
>>
>> OpenStep with D'OLE closely compares to MacOS with OpenDoc.
>
>Which is what I said in the first place, save that OpenDoc goes
>one or two steps beyond OpenStep.
Sigh. Did you hear what Swiger _said_, or did you just pick and
choose what to hear?
OpenStep is not at all comparable to OpenDoc, anymore than OpenDoc
is comparable to a turnip. Sure, OpenDoc has _loads_ of features
most turnips don't have, but who cares? It's not a turnip, and if
what you need is a turnip, OpenDoc isn't very useful.
There's absolutely no reason you couldn't use OpenDoc under OpenStep.
Just like you could use OpenDoc under MacOS, or under Windows, or
under X. OpenStep is concerned with things like drawing windows and
arranging your user interface. OpenDoc is concerned with things like
encapsulating objects within documents, and arranging _which_
interface you use to edit a particular object. You could use OpenDoc
to define your document's structure, and use OpenStep to build the
editors for the individual components.
Are we next going to go through the advantages of OpenDoc over a MIDI
driver? Or perhaps how it kicks the backside of a print manager?
[In fact, you could even use OpenDoc under OpenStep under Windows.]
Sigh,
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Work: 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208
"There's nothing more dangerous than a resourceful idiot" -Dilbert
From: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Strange postscript code causes problems
Date: 6 Feb 1996 17:21:56 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <4f82nk$gu4@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Hi net!
Perhaps this is an old one, but I don't know the solution:
In any application, choose Print... and press the button "Save". You get a
panel that lets you save the printer output of the app in question to a
Postscript file. So far, so good.
This panel lets you choose between "Normal, device independent PS", "PS for
selected printer" and "PS for selected printer plus fonts".
The first option works. In the other two cases, a command is inserted into
the code that causes everything but a NeXT to stall when interpreting the
code:
%%BeginFeature: *PageSize A4
/A4 setpapersize
%%EndFeature
instead of
%%PaperSize: A4
which works o.k. for option 1.
What is going on here? Is there a way to prevent the insertion of this
obviously nonstandard PS command? Why does it work on a NeXT? Why is this
command only inserted in the two printer-specific cases?
Any help is greatly appreciated; this bug (?) stalled work of mine for 3
days, so I'm rather curious...
ys
Alexander Wilkie
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From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: 5 Feb 1996 09:38:15 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4f4j67$9pi@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4etbvl$lnl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4etbvl$lnl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
> My beta of OmniWeb v2.0 has just expired. Can anybody shed any
> light when we might expect to see the real thing? I'm not anxious
> to go back to v1.0.
>
Version 2.0beta3 is set to expire in March...
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 14:05:06 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 6-Feb-96 Re: Apple:
LICENSE OPENSTEP!!! by Lawson English@primenet.
>: OpenStep with D'OLE closely compares to MacOS with OpenDoc.
[ ... ]
> However, since I obviously DO know what OpenStep is, since you finally
> ended up agreeing with me that OpenDoc compares to OpenStep
Woah, hold on there! I said, "OpenStep with D'OLE closely compares to
MacOS with OpenDoc.", which means:
"OpenStep closely compares to MacOS", and
"D'OLE closely compares with OpenDoc", in terms of the jobs they perform.
I did *not* agree with you that "OpenDoc compares to OpenStep" any more
than I would agree that "MacOS compares to D'OLE", and I'll thank you
for not deliberately distorting what I've said.
The fact that you are still trying to compare OpenStep to OpenDoc means
that you do not understand what at least one of the two is. There's no
point in continuing until this aspect of reality gets reflected into
your personal world, Lawson.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer
----------------+---------------------+---------------------
I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: wade@macc.wisc.edu (Wade E. Masshardt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 13:08:51 -0600
Organization: Rogue Programmers
Message-ID: <wade-0602961308510001@bucky.famres.wisc.edu>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f35qa$l1q@thor.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f6q5v$l5l@thor.cmp.ilstu.edu>
In article <4f6q5v$l5l@thor.cmp.ilstu.edu>, rdean@heartland.bradley.edu wrote:
>No, NeXT's OS is a UNIX, Mach *Microkernal* based operating system, relying
>heavily upon objects--which is the biggest attraction of the system.
>
>Most of the buzzwords that are all the rage in computing today can be traced
>back to NeXTSTEP as the first OS to implement. Microkernals are all the rage
>now, as well as drag-n-drop and object-oriented programming. Microsoft
>actually bought some NeXT machines so they could analyze the OS and try
>to copy/steal some things.
Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't NEXTSTEP use Mach 2.5, which
is not a true microkernel?
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From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WebObjects installation
Date: 5 Feb 1996 13:59:52 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4f52go$e2k@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
Is it possible to install WebObjects anywhere other than /?
For various reasons I want to install it in my home directory but, although
the Apache server works fine, when I try to run any WO stuff I simply get a
"Did not receive any response from application." error.
I notice that /NextLibrary/WebObjects is listed in the WebObjects binary, so
is that location hard-wired?
Best wishes,
mmalc.
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From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [TIF,JPG]->GIF w/ alpha transparency
Date: 31 Jan 1996 14:37:02 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4enuqe$124@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4ehv66$50u@usc.edu> <DLvnEM.7wz@musical.fdn.org>?<4ec9i6$66b@news4.digex.net>? <4eho1b$8qq@news.internetmci.com>?
In-Reply-To: <4ehv66$50u@usc.edu>
On 01/29/96, Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> Would someone be willing to NeXTMail me binaries of GIFTOOL and
> giftrans for m68k? I would then thank you very much.
>
Yes, I will if noone else does.
Let me know, before you get swamped! :-)
Best wishes,
mmalc.
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From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?
Date: 31 Jan 1996 16:51:03 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4eo6ln$37h@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4ebcbk$bt6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>?
In-Reply-To: <4ebcbk$bt6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Given that there seems to be so much interest in this stuff at the moment,
over the last weekend I started to put together a few pages about "How to
create WWW sites using NEXTSTEP". They're currently *very scrappy* (I
haven't put in more than half a day's work, really), and I wouldn't normally
announce them in their current state, but I thought maybe I should let
people know I've started and would be pleased to receive comments,
suggestions hints, tips etc. The NEXTSTEP community has been very willing
to share expertise over the last few years, and I hope I may be able to
build up a useful knowledge base for all.
http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/
Best wishes,
mmalc.
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?
Date: 6 Feb 1996 19:25:11 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In <4eo6ln$37h@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford wrote:
> Given that there seems to be so much interest in this stuff at the moment,
> over the last weekend I started to put together a few pages about "How to
> create WWW sites using NEXTSTEP". They're currently *very scrappy* (I
> haven't put in more than half a day's work, really), and I wouldn't
> normally announce them in their current state, but I thought maybe I
> should let people know I've started and would be pleased to receive
> comments, suggestions hints, tips etc. The NEXTSTEP community has been
> very willing to share expertise over the last few years, and I hope I may
> be able to build up a useful knowledge base for all.
>
> http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/
Very nice gesture Mmalcom!
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From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Try to upgrade PixelMagician (Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?)
Date: 3 Feb 1996 14:25:39 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
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I wonder if the release of GifOMatic (thanks to Stefan Seel, may your images
be ever crisp and transparent only where you want them to be) makes an
upgrade to PM redundant...?
One thing I still don't know how to do, though, without a fair amount of
fiddling, is to create *gamma-"corrected"* transparent interlaced GIFs (with
the NetScape colour table). I know one way to do it (cf the very incomplete
http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/transparent.html
but it's just not elegant...
Best wishes,
mmalc.
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From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 5 Feb 1996 18:31:03 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
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In article <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>,
Lawson English <english@primenet.com> wrote:
>
>Excuse?
>
>OpenStep isn't as good as OpenDoc.
>
>In fact, it is rather lame, compared to OpenDoc.
>
Umm, maybe you could justify that...?
I'd be interested in hearing a reasoned argument...
Best wishes,
mmalc.
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From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 5 Feb 1996 23:32:30 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
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On 02/05/96, Lawson English wrote:
> Terry Wilcox <terry@io.com> wrote:
> : In article <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>,
> : Lawson English <english@primenet.com> wrote:
> : >
> : >Excuse?
> : >
> : >OpenStep isn't as good as OpenDoc.
> : >
> : >In fact, it is rather lame, compared to OpenDoc.
>
> : It's always nice to see someone backing up their opinions with a good
> : argument.
>
> Here's a little hint to you:
>
> Using OpenStep, please explain how to embed the equivalent of an OpenDoc
> part inside *another* OpenDOc part and than embed that inside yet
> *another* one.
>
> Now keep doing it for 3 or more times.
>
> Now activate the innermost part and edit the content. Now save the three
> inner-most parts to disk.
>
> *Only* those three. Now embedd them in some other window.
>
> Now e-mail them to your friend by dragging them into your message to him.
>
Umm, OK...
So now explain how, in OpenDoc, you write an application to manage an order
management system, including the development of a Customer class Object.
Now, in another application -- e.g. a telesales customer tracking system --
reuse the Customer Object, but subclass it to allow you to keep track of the
last contact details. Now, in a third app (say a billing system) write a
Category of that Class to allow you to write out the contents in a specific
format for printing in an invoice.
Now go back to the original class, and completely rewrite the method for
accessing your corporate database to be twice as efficient, and recompile
all your applications and watch them all work perfectly first time.
Now wrap the whole thing up in an InterfaceBuilder pallette, and email it to
Don Yacktman to include in the MiscKit Object library.
And then recompile the applications so they run on NEXTSTEP on NeXT-,
Intel-, HP-PA-RISC- and Sparc-based hardware (and also on Solaris on the
latter, and WindowsNT on Intel) -- without rewriting any code.
Oh, and while you're about it, write a WWW interface to your applications so
that they can all be served over the Web in a platform-independent fashion.
Alternatively, take a leaf out of the following volume:
Cookery for Internet Users
--------------------------
1. Cheese.
Ingredients: chalk (4oz)
Take the chalk and describe its merits in considerable detail, extolling its
virtues to cheesemakers on any newsgroup willing to listen.
(I thought he said "blessed are the peacemakers...?")
Best wishes,
mmalc.
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 6 Feb 1996 20:14:09 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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<aczqawpcci.fsf@parka.winternet.com>
In <aczqawpcci.fsf@parka.winternet.com> Scott Hess wrote:
> Are we next going to go through the advantages of OpenDoc over a MIDI
> driver? Or perhaps how it kicks the backside of a print manager?
How about the advantages of OpenDoc versus over-priced dermatologist experts
whose doors are clearly not open without the proper amount of cash? A bad
case of acne can be better cured by OpenDoc because if and when it runs
properly it saves a lot of frustration and difficulty while computing and
that means less sweating over inconvenient document design. And we all know
that less sweat probably helps stifle bad acne unless the acne is hereditary
in which case OpenDoc wouldn't be the best choice, but a good dermatologist
would be, or a forgiving love-partner who didn't care in the first place
(which one could then embed multiple times inside one's documents and pull
out whenever you feel like it). Or just work on yourself while thinking of
them.
Not enough coffee again.
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From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: ISDN KA9Q ISPA
Message-ID: <DMCtBD.EC@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <4f3b70$9p6@news.next.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 12:28:24 GMT
In article <4f3b70$9p6@news.next.com> grio@next.com (Dan Grillo)
writes:
>
> I don't know what ISPA is, but I'm using a PC running KA9Q as
> my ethernet<->ISDN router. Maybe I can help. Here's my set up:
>
> --ethernet 1--+-------dos box --- nexts --- etc.----
> |
>
> [ intel ether express 1 ]
> [ 286 running KA9Q ]
> [ intel ether express 2 ]
>
> |
> --ethernet 2 -+--- single Mac address Combinet ISDN box
You can replace your ethernet 2 and the Combinet by an ISDN ISA card
(in Europe for example the Teles S0/16 for about 200,- DM). In this
case you need a packet driver for the ISDN card: ISPA. This solution
should be much cheaper than the ISDN box. In fact I don't know
anybody who has got an ISDN router set up like you.
I don't know, if there are ISDN ISA cards available in USA, too. I
only know that the European ISDN protocol is different from the US
protocol.
Michael
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From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: LaTeX binaries
Message-ID: <DMCtvI.G7@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
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References: <311637EF.41C67EA6@icps.u-strasbg.fr>
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 12:40:29 GMT
In article <311637EF.41C67EA6@icps.u-strasbg.fr> "Stephane O. Genaud"
<genaud@icps.u-strasbg.fr> writes:
> I have the opportunity to buy a second hand Turbo NeXT station
> and before i buy it, i'd like to know if can use latex on it.
> Could someone tell me where i can find a compiled version of
> LaTeX for NeXT station (as i'm not sure i'll have enough space
> for a gcc compiler) ? Please mail. Thanks.
TeX 3.141 and LaTeX 2.09 are included on the NeXTstep CDs. You just
have to expand the package by doubl-clicking it and you are ready to
run.
If you want to use LaTeX 2e, you have to get the macros from a FTP
server, but you will not have to compile anything.
Michael
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From: asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXT Database w/Web Interface?
Date: 6 Feb 1996 21:34:15 GMT
Organization: Gulfnet Kuwait
Message-ID: <4f8hgn$hsd@gulfa.kuwait.net>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960201233733.6592A-100000@northshore.shore.net>
In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.960201233733.6592A-100000@northshore.shore.net>
"Benjamin G. Benson" <benson@spiderline.com> writes:
> I'm looking to start up a NEXT server on the web and would like to know
> what is available in the means of web-accessable databases. I've heard
> there are might be an easy solution to building a web searcheable
> (through perl?) database on a NEXT machine... is this true?
>
> Thanks!
Try www.its.com.
Check out WebRex.
From: Damir Smitlener <damir@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 16:36:10 -0500
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
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Lawson English wrote:
[...snip...]
> : OpenStep with D'OLE closely compares to MacOS with OpenDoc.
and then Lawson English wrote:
[...snip...fore and aft...]
> However, since I obviously DO know what OpenStep is, since you finally
> ended up agreeing with me that OpenDoc compares to OpenStep
I'd love to hear what sequence of thoughts you went through to get that conclusion
from his statement. With slow, small steps:
OpenStep ~> MacOS
D'OLE ~> OpenDoc
OpenStep + D'OLE ~> MacOS + OpenDoc
------------------------
Damir Smitlener
damir@mindpsring.com
gt7092d@prism.gatech.edu
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From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Someone using Metrotool 1.2 (black)
Message-ID: <1996Feb5.213709.865@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 21:37:09 GMT
In article <DM5404.qr@galileo.pr.net.ch> stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch
(Stefano Unternaehrer) writes:
> Hi!
> Are you using Metrotool 1.2 for black? If yes, how many floppy disks
> have you found in the box? Me, just one, but the installing instruction
> speak about two floppy disks, and the first ask for the second...
> So the installation cannot complete right.
> So, if you have the 2nd floppy, please let me know.
> Thank you,
> Stefano
MT 1.2 is a very old version. I have here MT 1.4 which comes indeed on
two floppies. But the recent version is 2.1.1 and it comes only on one!
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 6 Feb 1996 22:16:15 GMT
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In <3117C9CA.623FA875@mindspring.com> Damir Smitlener wrote:
> OpenStep + D'OLE ~> MacOS + OpenDoc
Lawson's English = A wideOpenStep and cooking oil is inferior to a macintosh
protecting his openDoc from the rain.
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From: Joe Freeman <Joe@FreemanSoft.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 17:24:17 -0500
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
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mmalcolm crawford wrote:
> Version 2.0beta3 is set to expire in March...
2.0beta2 seems to be more stable that 2.0B3. I have several
form based web pages which croak OW2.0B3 which worked fine under
OW2.0B2. Only having one beta released web browser makes it
difficult to do web development.
I tried using NetSurfer on an evaluation but it didn't have
table or frame support. Does anyone know if this has been
fixed?
--
The governer of MD wants to spend $300M on
a rent free pro football stadium which is
only used 10 times a year.
For whom is he really doing this deal?
From: Lawson English <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 6 Feb 1996 20:26:01 -0700
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Scott Hess <shess@parka.winternet.com> wrote:
: Sigh. Did you hear what Swiger _said_, or did you just pick and
: choose what to hear?
Actually, I did listen/read.
: OpenStep is not at all comparable to OpenDoc, anymore than OpenDoc
: is comparable to a turnip. Sure, OpenDoc has _loads_ of features
: most turnips don't have, but who cares? It's not a turnip, and if
: what you need is a turnip, OpenDoc isn't very useful.
: There's absolutely no reason you couldn't use OpenDoc under OpenStep.
If CORBA-compliant services are offered, sure. Is OpenStep language-neutral?
: Just like you could use OpenDoc under MacOS, or under Windows, or
: under X. OpenStep is concerned with things like drawing windows and
: arranging your user interface.
So is OpenDoc. In fact, here is the intro and some subsequent text from
the Mac OS OpenDOc book:
"Windows are platform-specific data structures through which documents
display themselves. This section discusses how to use OpenDOc window
objects (which are basically wrappers for those structures) regardless of
which platform you are developing for. [Mac-specific stuff snipt]"
"The OpenDoc class ODWIndow is a wrapper for a pointer to a
platform-specific window structure. For some operations, your part editor
must retrieve the window pointer from the ODWIndow object and use the
plaform's faciltiies. In most cases, however, the interface to ODWIndow
provides the capability you need for interacting with your windows."
OpenDoc is concerned with things like
: encapsulating objects within documents, and arranging _which_
: interface you use to edit a particular object. You could use OpenDoc
: to define your document's structure, and use OpenStep to build the
: editors for the individual components.
Actually, only sorta. If OpenStep were used as a base for OpenDoc, the
OpenStep windows API would be wrapped within the ODWindows class methods
whenever possible.
Ditto with event handling. Ditto with controls, menus, disk I/O, memory
management, etc.
OpenDoc provides platform-neutral services for all of the above, AND for
graphics. The OD graphics model is the union of standard 32-bit QUickDraw
and the Windows 95 graphics calls. There's no reason why Display
PostScript couldn't be used as the underlying graphics driver, but the
model is the typical Mac/WIndows graphics API. You could also create
OpenStep-enhanced parts which make use of Display PostScript directly, as
long as certain rules are followed (don't ask, since I'm not familiar
with them).
And *everything* within OpenDoc is a potential document. Some parts can
have other parts embedded in them, so it makes sense to make them
possible "root" parts (those that the user controls by controlling
the window), while others cannot have anything embedded in them.
Regardless, ALL parts can behave as standalone documents, even if they
don't do anything useful...
And, btw, OpenDoc only performs the act of telling a given object that it
is the active object. It is that object's task to request the "menu
focus," and pas a valid menu-bar, which might only be a copy of the "base
menu" (original menu created by the "document shell" when a generic
OpenDoc window is first created).
The base menu contains platform-specific generic menus like the Document
Menu and the Edit Menu (and the Apple Menu!). On the Mac, the Document
menu contains "new" , "open selection" (creates a separate window for
the active part), "open docuemnt" (obvious), etc. The Edit menu contains
things like, Undo, Redo, Cut, Copy, Paste, etc, Part Info, <part>
Preferences, View in WIndow (display active part in its own window
-slightly different than the Open Selection item).
Note that these menus are partly controlled by the document shell, which
is platform-specific.
In general, OpenDoc provides virtually all of the services that OPenStep
does, but oriented towards creating component-based documents, rather
than stand-alone applications.
If you *really* wanted to, you could create a giant part that didn't
allow embedding that was durned near indistinguishable from a normal
application, but why would you?
: Are we next going to go through the advantages of OpenDoc over a MIDI
: driver? Or perhaps how it kicks the backside of a print manager?
You COULD implement a MIDI driver-interface as a part, or a SOM object,
using OpenDoc, and make MIDI available in any OpenDoc document...
: [In fact, you could even use OpenDoc under OpenStep under Windows.]
Yes you could, if OpenStep provides the same services as SOM. Does it? (I
don't know, so I'm asking).
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From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scanners for Black NeXT
Date: 7 Feb 1996 02:03:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
Message-ID: <4f919n$l96@news1.ucsd.edu>
I would like to add a scanner to a color-turbo Black NeXT.
Does someone with experience have some advice on which scanners work with
NeXTs, in a price range of one to a few thousand dollars?
Secondly, could someone advise me as to software available for NeXTs
to use with scanners?
I work with maps and drawings in which I want to add and delete text,
add data points and numbers, etc. I will appreciate any advice very much.
--
H. Craig
passim@helium.ucsd.edu
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Documents in MSDOS .EXE format??
Date: 7 Feb 1996 02:11:01 GMT
Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (www.oz.net)
Distribution: world
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References: <1996Feb4.131241.73152@cc.usu.edu> <4f4pqm$j8a@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Frank Seaton Taylor <prime@vt.edu> wrote:
> Usually these are PKZIP self-extracting archives. If you will rename
> them <whatever>.zip, Opener.app will handle them.
>
> As a testament to this, I have done it with two IRS publications from
> the address you listed. (It didn't help much since they use some funky
> windows postscript that won't preview properly---I bet it would print
> though---However, I was unwilling to risk it on > 30 page documents.)
Each PostScript document is a single page!! The 80-page 1040A
Instructions tried to print all 80 pages on a single page. Truly funky.
Download the PDF documents and save them as PostScript files from OmniPDF
if you want to do some manipulating like 2-sided printing. Then submit the
good PostScript files to the Treasury Dept. :-)
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From: Lawson English <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Date: 6 Feb 1996 20:59:01 -0700
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Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
: Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 6-Feb-96 Re: Apple:
: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!! by Lawson English@primenet.
: >: OpenStep with D'OLE closely compares to MacOS with OpenDoc.
: [ ... ]
: > However, since I obviously DO know what OpenStep is, since you finally
: > ended up agreeing with me that OpenDoc compares to OpenStep
: Woah, hold on there! I said, "OpenStep with D'OLE closely compares to
: MacOS with OpenDoc.", which means:
Actually, you also said:
"OpenStep is an API akin to POSIX which defines an environment to write
apps in, plus a complete set of developer tools."
The first part is what OpenDoc supplies: an environment to write (? did
you mean support/implement?) parts in. Developer tools are being supplied
by all sorts of third parties, including Apple, IBM, MetroWerks, etc.
: "OpenStep closely compares to MacOS", and
: "D'OLE closely compares with OpenDoc", in terms of the jobs they perform.
Actually, if OpenStep "compares to MacOS," then so does OpenDoc. OpenDoc
provides a consistent set of "wrappers" for platform-specific API's in
the following areas:
windowing, graphics, controls, memory management, disk I/O,
user-events-handling.
Those are the main areas where OpenDoc is similar to MacOS, but provides
its own object-oriented, platform-neutral API.
: I did *not* agree with you that "OpenDoc compares to OpenStep" any more
: than I would agree that "MacOS compares to D'OLE", and I'll thank you
: for not deliberately distorting what I've said.
But you DID say that OpenStep was similar to MacOS. So is OpenDoc.
OpenDoc provides object-oriented wrappers for the above APIs. It was
designed to be platform-neutral. Which MacOS API's that OpenStep provides
services similar to did I leave out? Maybe OpenStep provides more, maybe
less. HOwever, I think that I've demonstrated that the comparison is
between similar kinds, rather than between Apples and Edsels?
: The fact that you are still trying to compare OpenStep to OpenDoc means
: that you do not understand what at least one of the two is. There's no
: point in continuing until this aspect of reality gets reflected into
: your personal world, Lawson.
The fact that you are still trying to invalidate my comparison of
OpenStep to OpenDoc means that you do not understand what at least one of
the two is. There's no point in continuing until this aspect of reality
gets reflected into your personal world, Chuck.
Did I mention that OpenDOc also provides an object-oriented API for
dealing with embedding of parts, message-passing between parts, a
scripting extension, and infinite extensibility through inheritance and
so on?
In fact, the business-oriented scripting service is merely an ODExtension
that can parts inherent from and implement specific reactions to "semantic
events" (events that result from direct user interaction) passed in as
scripts.
There's a LOT more to OpenDoc that you apparently realized, and this
article barely scratches the surface of what is what.
BTW, OLE and OpenDOc are only slightly related. As far as I know, you
can't embed embedded OLE "parts" within other embedded OLE "parts," can you?
Nor can you provide frames for OLE that are non-rectangular. OPenDOc
allows *regions* to be frames.
Trivial, but far more aesthetic and convenient for the user...
Especially if you are implementing a PageMaker-like document as a set of
parts...
OpenDoc implements inheritance ala Objective C, PLUS start-time
inheritance by allowing for substitution of editors/viewers using
preferences obtained from the part's data as OpenDoc launches the
document, PLUS run-time polymorphism by allowing users to drag new parts
into a window and embed them, while linking one part with another so that
dynamicly changing data can be updated automatically. For common
business-oriented parts, the scripting extension allows for a common
interface that can be shared by virtually all parts, as described in
Apple's massive Apple Events Suite REgistry. For real-time events, new
kinds of communications protocols might need to be established.
Examples might include protocols for how game parts (e.g. goggle-parts in
a real-time 3D game, or a weapon-part or a flight-simulator part)
interact. Apple is establishing a suite of Internet parts called
"CyberDog" that is designed to be extendable by third-parties.
Other industries might want to establish communications protocols that
are domain-specific...
OpenDoc is apparently much more than you realized, or you have thus far
been unable to differentiate it from OpenStep's capabilities.
Cheers.
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From: Lawson English <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 6 Feb 1996 21:03:01 -0700
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Damir Smitlener <damir@mindspring.com> wrote:
: Lawson English wrote:
[snipt]
: I'd love to hear what sequence of thoughts you went through to get that conclusion
: from his statement. With slow, small steps:
: OpenStep ~> MacOS
: D'OLE ~> OpenDoc
: OpenStep + D'OLE ~> MacOS + OpenDoc
OpenStep ~> MacOS
OpenDoc ~> MacOS
OpenDoc ~> OpenStep...
QED
And I don't think that
D'OLE ~> OpenDoc
so OpenStep + D'OLE ~> MacOS + OpenDoc
isn't likely to be valid.
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From: Lawson English <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Date: 6 Feb 1996 19:37:04 -0700
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mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
[snipt]
: Umm, OK...
: So now explain how, in OpenDoc, you write an application to manage an order
: management system, including the development of a Customer class Object.
: Now, in another application -- e.g. a telesales customer tracking system --
: reuse the Customer Object, but subclass it to allow you to keep track of the
: last contact details. Now, in a third app (say a billing system) write a
: Category of that Class to allow you to write out the contents in a specific
: format for printing in an invoice.
You wouldn't. You don't write applications using OpenDoc, you write
task-dedicated parts.
: Now go back to the original class, and completely rewrite the method for
: accessing your corporate database to be twice as efficient, and recompile
: all your applications and watch them all work perfectly first time.
: Now wrap the whole thing up in an InterfaceBuilder pallette, and email it to
: Don Yacktman to include in the MiscKit Object library.
: And then recompile the applications so they run on NEXTSTEP on NeXT-,
: Intel-, HP-PA-RISC- and Sparc-based hardware (and also on Solaris on the
: latter, and WindowsNT on Intel) -- without rewriting any code.
: Oh, and while you're about it, write a WWW interface to your applications so
: that they can all be served over the Web in a platform-independent fashion.
You're still thinking application-centric.
Currently, OpenDoc runs on MacOS.
In the pipeline: OS/2, AIX, WIndows 95, Windows NT, Linux, possibly
Solaris, and anyone else that wants to obtain the source code from ciLABs
and port it over.
You still haven't got the idea of what parts are and what they can do
when working together or you wouldn't have given the example that you did.
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From: "Jonathan W. Hendry" <steeldrv@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 22:03:32 -0500
Organization: Steel Driving Software, Inc.
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Lawson English wrote:
>
> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
> [snipt]
> : Umm, OK...
>
> : So now explain how, in OpenDoc, you write an application to manage an order
> : management system, including the development of a Customer class Object.
> : Now, in another application -- e.g. a telesales customer tracking system --
> : reuse the Customer Object, but subclass it to allow you to keep track of the
> : last contact details. Now, in a third app (say a billing system) write a
> : Category of that Class to allow you to write out the contents in a specific
> : format for printing in an invoice.
>
> You wouldn't. You don't write applications using OpenDoc, you write
> task-dedicated parts.
That part about the Customer class object pretty well describes a 'task-dedicated
part', seems to me. Fact is, there are vast realms of problem domain for which
OpenDoc-style componentware is far from a complete solution. OpenDoc doesn't help
much in those cases.
Fact is, OpenDoc covers but a wee small piece of OpenStep functionality (NeXT's Object
Linking, methinks, with a little bit of DO tossed in).
But I'll humor you. Simply replace 'application' in malcolm's example with 'task-dedicated part'.
Then explain how you would do it in OpenDoc.
>
> : Now go back to the original class, and completely rewrite the method for
> : accessing your corporate database to be twice as efficient, and recompile
> : all your applications and watch them all work perfectly first time.
>
> : Now wrap the whole thing up in an InterfaceBuilder pallette, and email it to
> : Don Yacktman to include in the MiscKit Object library.
>
> : And then recompile the applications so they run on NEXTSTEP on NeXT-,
> : Intel-, HP-PA-RISC- and Sparc-based hardware (and also on Solaris on the
> : latter, and WindowsNT on Intel) -- without rewriting any code.
>
> : Oh, and while you're about it, write a WWW interface to your applications so
> : that they can all be served over the Web in a platform-independent fashion.
>
> You're still thinking application-centric.
Not at all. IB Palettes are loadable bundles of objects which expand the capability
of InterfaceBuilder. Not unlike OpenDoc proposes to do. Much of InterfaceBuilder's
functionality comes from objects loaded from Palettes. Any app can use loadable bundles.
The fact is, a 'document-centric' interface is quite possible in OPENSTEP. It simply
hasn't been done because, for the applications for which OPENSTEP is used, doc-centric
interfaces aren't terribly desireable. What would be the appropriate doc-centric
implementation of, say, an order-entry app? What would it win you?
Since OPENSTEP objects can be reused easier than OpenDoc objects (components) there's
not much reason to do the OpenDoc thing.
>
> Currently, OpenDoc runs on MacOS.
>
> In the pipeline: OS/2, AIX, WIndows 95, Windows NT, Linux, possibly
> Solaris, and anyone else that wants to obtain the source code from ciLABs
> and port it over.
And fork over how much $?
>
> You still haven't got the idea of what parts are and what they can do
> when working together or you wouldn't have given the example that you did.
You don't quite have the concept of objects down. OPENSTEP doesn't need all the
elaborate OpenDoc fluff to reuse objects.
From: Lawson English <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Date: 6 Feb 1996 21:33:02 -0700
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Jonathan W. Hendry <steeldrv@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
[snipt]
: >
: > : Now go back to the original class, and completely rewrite the method for
: > : accessing your corporate database to be twice as efficient, and recompile
: > : all your applications and watch them all work perfectly first time.
: >
Now go back and either rewrite your part for accessing your coprorate
database to be twice as efficient (or find a 3rd-party part that is an
editor for the same kind of data) and replace your old part in your
Editors Folder with the faster one and watch all subsequently opened
documents work perfectly the first time...
: > : Now wrap the whole thing up in an InterfaceBuilder pallette, and email it to
: > : Don Yacktman to include in the MiscKit Object library.
: >
Drag the icon of the part editor into the CyberDog email window and let
him distribute it as he sees fit (see Part Merchant web-page for ideas).
: > : And then recompile the applications so they run on NEXTSTEP on NeXT-,
: > : Intel-, HP-PA-RISC- and Sparc-based hardware (and also on Solaris on the
: > : latter, and WindowsNT on Intel) -- without rewriting any code.
: >
Now recompile the part so that it runs natively on other
OPenDoc-supporting platforms (currently MacOS, by year's end, OS/2,
Windows 95, WIndows NT and AIX) and watch it do just as well -without
rewriting any code.
: > : Oh, and while you're about it, write a WWW interface to your applications so
: > : that they can all be served over the Web in a platform-independent fashion.
While you're at it, add a CyberDog capability to your part (probably by
just embedding existing CyberDog parts and linking). If you want
Java-style capabilities, add a Java part (they've been announced).
: >
: > You're still thinking application-centric.
: Not at all. IB Palettes are loadable bundles of objects which expand the capability
: of InterfaceBuilder.
Cool.
: Not unlike OpenDoc proposes to do.
Since you've never seen OpenDoc in action, while I've seen
InterfaceBuilder in action, are you sure about his?
: Much of InterfaceBuilder'sfunctionality comes from objects loaded from
: Palettes. Any app can use loadable bundles.
Cool. But ALL "apps" in OpenDOc *are* "loadable bundles."
: The fact is, a 'document-centric' interface is quite possible in OPENSTEP.
If you say so.
: It simply hasn't been done because, for the applications for which
: OPENSTEP is used, doc-centric interfaces aren't terribly desireable.
This is no doubt true in many instances, but have you any idea how
desperate you sound? ("Of course we can do it, but we don't want to, so we
haven't, so there. Nyah!")
: What would be the appropriate doc-centric implementation of, say, an
: order-entry app? What would it win you?
MY GOD!
You really don't know what OpenDoc parts do, do you?
Consider the lowly forms-factory part: it implements a GUI-builder like a
flat-file data-base, such as FileMaker. You can draw the interace,
specify which field accepts take what input (text, numbers, dates, adresses,
valid zip codes, etc) and create a new part which can be saved or dragged
into an open window. This form is "read only" in the sense that you can
only edit the text, not the form iteself (save by using the original
form-editor, or maybe by supplying a management-controlled password) You can
now create a link so that the text input into the form-part is copied
automatically into ANY text-accepting part.
This might be a data-base part, or an inventory control part, or any old
application that you can dream up that would accept text. And you
could specify text of this specific format, mind you, maybe with
encryption through an encryption-filter part, or a password-part, etc.
: Since OPENSTEP objects can be reused easier than OpenDoc objects
: (components) there's not much reason to do the OpenDoc thing.
Guffaw...
I drag a text-editor part and drag it into an open window and resize it.
That's REALLY difficult to reuse, alright.
: >
: > Currently, OpenDoc runs on MacOS.
: >
: > In the pipeline: OS/2, AIX, WIndows 95, Windows NT, Linux, possibly
: > Solaris, and anyone else that wants to obtain the source code from ciLABs
: > and port it over.
: And fork over how much $?
The issues involved in getting the free source code pertain to licensing
various Apple and IBM technologies. The companies have stated taht they
want to make it an open standard with as little cost to end-users and
developers as possible. It is the lawyers that are holding things up.
Bento is a Mac technology. SOM is an IBM one. There are probably quite a
few other pieces that require licensing. The source code itself is
supposed to be free plus fees to cover licensing costs. I'd guess
that it will probably cost $500 per
*platform* e.g. MacOS, Linux, AIX, Solaris, each would cost $500 for the
OS-maker to obtain the rights to port it over.
: >
: > You still haven't got the idea of what parts are and what they can do
: > when working together or you wouldn't have given the example that you did.
: You don't quite have the concept of objects down. OPENSTEP doesn't need all the
: elaborate OpenDoc fluff to reuse objects.
But you just said that you couldn't figure out how to reuse a form-entry
object using OpenStep.
With OpenDoc, that is one of the samples that folks worked up to show
what OpenDoc can do.
You guys still don't seem to get it.
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From: Frank Seaton Taylor <prime@vt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniPDF (was Re: Documents in MSDOS .EXE format??)
Date: 7 Feb 1996 03:11:51 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
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In article <4f91nl$55a@emerald.oz.net> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
writes:
> Each PostScript document is a single page!! The 80-page 1040A
> Instructions tried to print all 80 pages on a single page. Truly
funky.
>
> Download the PDF documents and save them as PostScript files from
OmniPDF
> if you want to do some manipulating like 2-sided printing. Then
submit the
> good PostScript files to the Treasury Dept. :-)
> --
I had already tried this (or rather the OmniPDF part), but OmniPDF
immediately quits itself whenever I try to launch it. Could it be that I
need NeXTSTEP 3.3? (I'm using 3.2 on black hardware.)
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTBSD - 4.4BSD For NeXTstep machines ?
Date: 6 Feb 1996 21:19:59 GMT
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[Why is an NS-specific response being crossposted to non-NS groups?]
On 5 Feb 1996 09:29:45 GMT, mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
> IMHO version 2 (albeit in beta) blows away NetScape for elegance, robustness
> and general ease of use -- the chaps from Lighthouse/Omni even seemed to
> have frames working properly before NetScape.
Netscape scrolls through pages with tables much more quickly than OmniWeb,
but it's nice to see tables at all in some NS apps. Displaying pages is
faster in Netscape (probably due to the SGML translations OmniWeb v2 does on
everything). Caching is not all done in RAM with Netscape (a horrible speed
drain for OmniWeb version 2 because eventually the OS pages OW2's cached
data to system VM). The lack of a OW-only, fixed-size circular cache as
well as the SGML translations further hurt OmniWeb's performance.
OmniWeb version 2 is better than version 1 in a number of ways, but I
wouldn't say version 2 beta 3b (the latest beta I've seen) is better than
Netscape. As for robustness, with frames resizing the window resizes frames
well in OmniWeb v2, but I've had problems using the left arrow to go
backwards once I've loaded a page with frames (previous pages get lost) and
with a lot of items in the loading queue, I've locked up the app. Hopefully
these problems will be cleared up before release.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 02:13:58 -0500
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 6-Feb-96 Re: Apple:
LICENSE OPENSTEP!!! by Lawson English@primenet.com
> However, since I obviously DO know what OpenStep is, since you finally
> ended up agreeing with me that OpenDoc compares to OpenStep.
And, in a later article that same day:
> If CORBA-compliant services are offered, sure. Is OpenStep language-neutral?
[ ... ]
> Yes you could, if OpenStep provides the same services as SOM. Does it?
> (I don't know, so I'm asking).
The only conclusion that can be drawn is that Lawson English was lying
when he claimed that he knew what OpenStep is. And that is after he
deliberately misinterpreted what I said to produce the first quote above.
This is the end of the discussion for me; it's not worth my time to
refute such nonsense. It's too bad, since I would have liked to have
heard more about OpenDoc.... Oh, well.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer
----------------+---------------------+---------------------
I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Raw audio-CD data: how to grab w/NS/Intel?
Date: 7 Feb 1996 02:34:17 -0500
Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA
Message-ID: <4f9klp$6vc@news.duke.edu>
I want to do some experiments in sound processing, and want to offload
some digital audio data from an audio CD. Now, how can I do this in my
NEXTSTEP3.3/Intel system?
I've got a Sony CDU55S 2.4X SCSI CD-ROM drive, and a Creative Labs Vibra
16 sound card. When I insert an audio CD into the CD drive, it launches
CDPlayer.app, and I can play it out of my sound card fine. I have even
got Resound.app to record from the analog audio output. But there are
still some big bugs in the sound system support on NS, and the software
quits being able to record after a few starts and stops.
But I really just want to get the raw CD data. Is there any NEXTSTEP
software that allows me to do that? Does NEXTSTEP support direct
copying of audio-CD data?
Thanks for any pointers or information,
Lee Altenberg
altenber@mhpcc.edu
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: 7 Feb 1996 06:08:09 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4f9fk9$sej@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4etbvl$lnl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <4etrqi$nnc@newshost.lanl.gov> <4f51ph$ghs@elna.ethz.ch>
daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge) wrote:
> doyle@mmm.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle) wrote in comp.sys.next.software:
> : jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) wrote:
> : Don't know, but the 2.0 beta3b version won't expire until March 14.
> : Try downloading that one.
>
> Yep, the keyword is 'try', since OmniWeb2b3b is so buggy, I run
> it in gdb, because it tends to generate Memory exceptions very
> often, just try to make your way through some forms.
>
> Or is it just me ?
My guess is it's just you. Well, that sounds too snotty, let me
say it a different way.
The experience of most people on the omniweb mailing list, including
me, is that this beta version is fairly robust. There's some web
pages that it may not display *correctly*, but it does not seem to
crash much on people. Or at least, they aren't complaining about it
to the mailing list. If you're having problems like this, be sure
to let the guys at OmniGroup know about it.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: 7 Feb 1996 06:09:36 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4f9fn0$sej@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4etbvl$lnl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <4etrqi$nnc@newshost.lanl.gov> <4f6hpr$1sv@tkhut.sojourn.com>
stimpy@sojourn1.sojourn.com (gcl) wrote:
> I kind of have the same question...... In Omniweb v1.0 there was
> a directorry that kept all the files that were used to write to
> your screen, and when you exited OmniWeb v1 it deleted it... I
> can't find that dir for v2.0beta... ANy one know where it is?
It doesn't happen anymore. The new version loads the images
right into memory, basically. It's not sitting on your hard
disk at all.
(well, except that it might be sitting in your swapfile, but
I don't think you'd want to go messing around with that!)
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Solution to OmniWeb Expiring (new beta 3)
Date: 7 Feb 1996 06:16:29 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4f9g3t$sej@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4f5n3j$3f8@lighthouse.lighthouse.com> <4f9fs4$sej@usenet.rpi.edu>
Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
> Note that this site actually has the beta version available in
> five different archives. There's four single-architecture
> archives, in addition to the quad-fat one listed above. So, I
> generally tell people to use a URL of:
>
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/web/OmniWeb_f/02-BETA/
>
> and then see which file they want once they get there.
There's another advantage of using the above URL. If the gang
at omnigroup release a new beta version, the more specific URL
(the one to a specific filename at eclipse) will probably fail.
I'll destroy the old beta as the new one comes in. By using
the above URL, you'll see whatever the latest beta version is.
and if you drop the "02-BETA/" part, you'll see whatever the
released version is (currently the 1.0 version...).
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From: John Rudd <kzin@isc.sjsu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Keyboard/mouse/monitor sharing between Nextstep systems?
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 10:54:30 -0800
Organization: San Jose State University
Message-ID: <3118F566.55E2@isc.sjsu.edu>
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I'm soon to have 2 Nextstep systems in my house (one on Sparc, one
on Intel). I'm thinking I might want to have both of them up and
running with both monitors, but just use the keyboard and mouse
from one, with a set up sort of like a NextDimension board (where
you've got 2 monitors being controlled by 1 kbd and mouse).
Is there a way to do this using 2 seperate systems? I'd probably
have to have some way of telling which apps are launched on which
CPU, but I'm willing to deal with something somewhat cumbersome,
as long as I can get the screen space of both systems at one time.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 7 Feb 1996 12:19:49 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4fa5d5$qa5@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4f938g$doq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4f4a6t$sns@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>?<3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>?<4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>?<4f41a8$j2a@pentagon.io.com>?a <4f642e$ne0@bignews.shef.ac.uk>?
In-Reply-To: <4f938g$doq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
On 02/07/96, Lawson English wrote:
> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
> [snipt]
> : Umm, OK...
>
> You still haven't got the idea of what parts are and what they can do
> when working together or you wouldn't have given the example that you did.
>
Umm, I think you missed out on the most important part of the message,
namely the recipe for cheese.
Let me see if I can make this sufficiently simple for you to understand
(although others more gifted than I seem to have also tried, but failed):
OpenDoc and OpenStep are addressing different issues.
To use a cliche: to compare them is like comparing apples and oranges (sorry
if this confuses you after the previous diary-based motif).
Is there an alt.drivel newsgroup to which this can be redirected?
Best wishes,
mmalc.
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From: willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at (Wilhelm Pitzeier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem with Latex and fonts
Date: 7 Feb 1996 13:07:22 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <4fa86a$ber@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <4eoffe$t3l@news.cc.brandeis.edu> <4epduj$rbf@agate.berkeley.edu>
In <4epduj$rbf@agate.berkeley.edu> Paul Robert Brown wrote:
> You may need to hack the MakeTeXPK file a little bit, but you'll also
> need a 600dpi "mode" for metafont, eg., ljfour.mode or the like. You
> should consider using the MakeFonts (or something similar) script to
> build-up a suite of 600dpi resolution fonts. You will have to modify the
> script.
Has anybody already done this?
Greeting from Vienna, Austria
Willi (who wants to print 600dpi LaTeX on a HP LaserJet 5MP)
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From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: help building Movie.app 3.0
Date: 7 Feb 1996 16:20:31 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <4fajgf$ghq@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
I've been trying for several days to build Movie.app 3.0 on black hw, NS 3.0,
from the source provided at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de, but each problem
I solved just uncovered another down the road, and I've given up trying to
do it myself.
If someone has a compiled version for m68k, I'd be grateful if they'd
mail it to me, or else deposit it in submissions at an ftp site.
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OK)
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York University Voice: 416 736-5118
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From: gilleta@pento.esil.univ-mrs.fr (Bruno GILLETA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: help building Movie.app 3.0
Date: 8 Feb 1996 00:00:48 GMT
Organization: IMT
Message-ID: <4fbefg$nv0@imt950.imt-mrs.fr>
References: <4fajgf$ghq@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
In article <4fajgf$ghq@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
(Michael Friendly) writes:
> I've been trying for several days to build Movie.app 3.0 on black hw, NS 3.0,
> from the source provided at ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de, but each problem
> I solved just uncovered another down the road, and I've given up trying to
> do it myself.
>
> If someone has a compiled version for m68k, I'd be grateful if they'd
> mail it to me, or else deposit it in submissions at an ftp site.
>
You can find a compiled version in the archive :
ftp.fdn.fr
The directory is :
/pub/NeXTSTEP/uni-muenchen/Graphics/movie
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From: gblock@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 7 Feb 1996 17:06:03 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Message-ID: <4fam5r$kqb@uwm.edu>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
In comp.sys.next.software (<4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>),Lawson English (english@primenet.com) wrote:
| Excuse?
|
| OpenStep isn't as good as OpenDoc.
|
| In fact, it is rather lame, compared to OpenDoc.
Well, allow me to disagree.
OpenDoc is a pretty API sitting on top of a SOM-compliant ORB. It's
like OLE on steroids, and it's nice.
But OpenStep it isn't. OpenStep has an ORB that's compliant with SOM,
DSOM, OLE, now D'OLE, CORBA, and PDO. That's a powerful ORB, no
matter which way you shake a stick at it. As a matter of fact, the
best thing about OpenStep/NS's ORB is the fact that you can shake
sticks at it in lots of ways, and it still knows what you're doing.
OpenStep has a full user interface. OpenStep has Display PostScript.
OpenStep is more-or-less an OS designed to sit on other OSes.
OpenDoc is neat, but an OS it isn't. And there's nothing preventing
NeXT from adding one more API to their already robust ORB, hence
OpenDoc.
They're different beasts. And yes, I *do* believe that the Mac could
benefit from OpenStep. After all, OpenStep for MachOS supports Sun,
HP, Intel, and the original black hardware, OpenStep for Solaris
supports Solaris machines, OpenStep for 95 will support Wintel95
machines, and OpenStep for NT will support a whole lot of others.
That's a big market, even if you're only shaking sticks at vertical
market applications. That's a lot of potential dogs to shake your
stick at.
And Apple would make a formidable dog to shake the stick at, solely
because it would provide yet another way for Apple to integrate itself
solidly into corporate markets, as well as being the first OS to PPCP.
There. That was decidedly neutral, IMO.
Greg
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From: gblock@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Date: 7 Feb 1996 17:07:42 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
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References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f35qa$l1q@thor.cmp.ilstu.edu>
In comp.sys.next.software (<4f4m5c$h3s@usc.edu>),Matthew N. Reichman (reichman@scf.usc.edu) wrote:
| I didn't know that the MacOS was object oriented.
Only if you count Pascal. :)
Greg
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From: gblock@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 7 Feb 1996 17:40:19 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Message-ID: <4fao63$kqb@uwm.edu>
References: <4f4a6t$sns@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>?<4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>?<4f41a8$j2a@pentagon.io.com>?a <4f642e$ne0@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <4f938g$doq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <31181684.1A15@ix.netcom.com> <4f9a1u$ko5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
In comp.sys.next.software (<4f9a1u$ko5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>),Lawson English (english@primenet.com) wrote:
| Now go back and either rewrite your part for accessing your coprorate
| database to be twice as efficient (or find a 3rd-party part that is an
| editor for the same kind of data) and replace your old part in your
| Editors Folder with the faster one and watch all subsequently opened
| documents work perfectly the first time...
Parts act more-or-less like load-time application objects. This isn't
exactly a blindingly new concept, you know; Xerox was pushing
document-centric application theory many years ago.
| Now recompile the part so that it runs natively on other
| OPenDoc-supporting platforms (currently MacOS, by year's end, OS/2,
| Windows 95, WIndows NT and AIX) and watch it do just as well -without
| rewriting any code.
OpenDoc-supporting platforms that rely on SOM. OS/2 by years end, now
if you've got the beta developer's stuff. Win95/NT by next year. AIX
is in development. And it's not completely clear as to whether or not
it will be possible without code rewrite due to possible ORB
differences/changes with the coming CORBA stuff.
| While you're at it, add a CyberDog capability to your part (probably by
| just embedding existing CyberDog parts and linking). If you want
| Java-style capabilities, add a Java part (they've been announced).
So CyberDog, as a part, will be ported to all OpenDoc platforms? No.
We're referring, specifically here, to something particular to the
MacOS's implementation of a network layer in OpenDoc parts.
The ability he was referring to *is* an integral part of the
NS/OpenStep standard. OpenStep is a lot bigger than a bunch of
haphazard parts, you know.
| Since you've never seen OpenDoc in action, while I've seen
| InterfaceBuilder in action, are you sure about his?
Fine, then take your argument up with someone who has. OpenDoc does
not currently provide anything like InterfaceBuilder functionality; IB
helps you write applications. OpenDoc helps you create documents, but
does not really help you create new OpenDoc parts. Reuse, yes. But
there's no OpenDoc-builder to extend with OpenDoc parts in the same
way that InterfaceBuilder provides.
That's why IB is nice for vertical-market applications at this point
in time.
| Cool. But ALL "apps" in OpenDOc *are* "loadable bundles."
Absolutely. All OpenDoc parts exist as "loadable bundles" which can
be reused on demand through a request to the ORB.
However, certain behaviors have yet to be specifically identified.
Since parts are objects, can you subclass a part, extend
functionality, and then use SOM to replace it in the hierarchy? Not
always, currently, due to OpenDoc being specified without relying on
that particular aspect of SOM. It doesn't expect to be replaced, and
you've got to be careful what you replace.
| : The fact is, a 'document-centric' interface is quite possible in OPENSTEP.
| If you say so.
His statement is *not* false. Document-centric approaches weren't
created yesterday, and you'll find several application suites
available that use this approach through DO/PDO in some way.
What is missing is a system-wide API like OpenDoc provides. But I'm
not about to say that a simplistic API like OpenDoc provides a full
OS, and you are, evidently.
OpenDoc will *not* make Macintoshes the rage of businesses. It won't
sell systems the way they need them to sell. As a vertical-market
system, OpenStep can.
| This is no doubt true in many instances, but have you any idea how
| desperate you sound? ("Of course we can do it, but we don't want to, so we
| haven't, so there. Nyah!")
The same could be said for static-typed objects like OpenDoc provides
for. NeXTSTEP/OpenStep, with it's heavy reliance on the run-time
system, provides a more dynamic handling of objects than any
static-typed system could hope to provide. Any solution that NeXT
created that inherently made use of the dynamic facilities of the
Objective-C environment would by far out-flex anything OpenDoc could
provide.
But it isn't going to sell licenses.
| This might be a data-base part, or an inventory control part, or any old
| application that you can dream up that would accept text. And you
| could specify text of this specific format, mind you, maybe with
| encryption through an encryption-filter part, or a password-part, etc.
Method of communication hasn't been specified all that well, here; the
power of OpenStep would be to separate the functions of the
single-object Form. For instance, EOF, the Enterprise Objects
framework. Which transparently provides access to any database format
that it has what you'd refer to as a "part" for. Abstracted from
parts an additional level so that one part isn't forced to specify
another part.
Are you going to rebuild your part to use a different part as its
database? Not with EOF.
Parts don't fix everything. They're nice, but they don't fix everything.
| : Since OPENSTEP objects can be reused easier than OpenDoc objects
| : (components) there's not much reason to do the OpenDoc thing.
| Guffaw...
OpenDoc parts are *far* more statically linked than any OpenStep/NS
object I've ever seen. This isn't incorrect, per se. The point here
is that they're not necessarily in direct competition, currently,
without an API for document-centric object processing on NS's side.
Which exists, but only partially.
| I drag a text-editor part and drag it into an open window and resize it.
| That's REALLY difficult to reuse, alright.
Right. Now replace some part of the part you're trying to reuse
without recompiling the part or affecting all of the instances of that
part in the system.
SOM needs a total rebuilding of the hierarchy when new objects get
inserted. Guess why. The answer isn't Objective-C.
| developers as possible. It is the lawyers that are holding things up.
That's a serious misnomer. Anyone who believes that OpenDoc is a done
deal isn't looking at the facts. AIX isn't ready. 95/NT isn't done
because it requires an SOM-compatible ORB. The standard may change to
a CORBA-based API, at which point you can kiss insertion goodbye.
That's not lawyers. That's programmers and designers. Yes, you could
get the product now, but does that mean it's ready for prime-time?
And we *still* haven't attacked the inadequacies of the MacOS
underlying the implementation of OpenDoc on a Mac. Which, in theory,
shouldn't matter.
Does OpenDoc provide "window" parts with "button" parts, "view" parts,
and "scroller" parts? OpenDoc is not a whole-system solution, and
would be a nightmare as such. But OpenDoc parts have to get their API
from somewhere; and there isn't a universal API available for
application interfacing.
Unless you count OpenStep, which looks to be on quite a few more
platforms than the Mac Toolbox calls.
| But you just said that you couldn't figure out how to reuse a form-entry
| object using OpenStep.
He couldn't. On the other hand, since whole applications have been
dropped into Interface Builder's palette, I don't doubt that it's
easily possible.
| With OpenDoc, that is one of the samples that folks worked up to show
| what OpenDoc can do.
Perhaps they should have worked on providing solutions to the
cross-platform issues as demos instead. OpenDoc on 10 platforms is a
sight to see. Even better when they're all using DSOM and sharing
objects over the network. And better yet when they're all doing it
transparently, each platform providing a common user interface to the
person at each seat.
But they can't demo that. Guess why.
| You guys still don't seem to get it.
Some of us get it just fine: OpenDoc is great, but it it's only a
handful of API's in a robust OS.
Greg
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From: gblock@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 7 Feb 1996 17:47:17 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Message-ID: <4faoj5$kqb@uwm.edu>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <Ql5NrvC00iVEI90JEH@andrew.cmu.edu> <4f5efi$qij@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
In comp.sys.next.software (<4f5efi$qij@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>),Lawson English (english@primenet.com) wrote:
| OpenDoc changes the way in which programming is done. Does OpenStep?
Actually, it mostly changes the way in which document creation is
done. Programming is still pretty much straightforward-same-old-shit,
just supporting a new API that you have to make yourself interact with
properly.
If you have to ask if OpenStep, an Objective C-based OS which relies
heavily on dynamic linking of objects, transparent distribution of
objects, and provides object-orientation throughout 95% of the OS,
then I'd say yeah, it's a bit different than writing software for a
Macintosh/CodeWarrior's C++, bind-me-until-I-die, strap an object to
the hood of my Pascal-driven toolbox way of getting things done.
And if you have to ask, you really need help.
Greg
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From: dbirbaum@ccso.cim.ch (Daniel Birbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Preparing Graphics For the WEB?
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 09:20:31
Organization: CIMCCSO
Message-ID: <dbirbaum.299.000957D6@ccso.cim.ch>
References: <4ebcbk$bt6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <4ea1ei$m3o@usc.edu> <4ea954$dp9@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>? <4eo6ln$37h@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
In article <4eo6ln$37h@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes:
>Given that there seems to be so much interest in this stuff at the moment,
>over the last weekend I started to put together a few pages about "How to
>create WWW sites using NEXTSTEP". They're currently *very scrappy* (I
>haven't put in more than half a day's work, really), and I wouldn't normally
>announce them in their current state, but I thought maybe I should let
>people know I've started and would be pleased to receive comments,
>suggestions hints, tips etc. The NEXTSTEP community has been very willing
>to share expertise over the last few years, and I hope I may be able to
>build up a useful knowledge base for all.
Very helpful already now.
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there project planning software?
Date: 7 Feb 1996 20:05:08 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Message-ID: <4fb0lk$njp@trane.opensource.com>
References: <4f53g1$48q@slider.bme.ri.ccf.org>
In article <4f53g1$48q@slider.bme.ri.ccf.org> vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
writes:
> I'm feeling the need to get my hands on some project planning software.
I know
> there is stuff like Project Manager for Windows, but I'd like to use
something
> on my NeXT. I need to develop timelines and critical path plots.
Anything
> like that available for black hardware?
>
> Please send e-mail. Thank you.
>
> --
> Ivan Vesely, Ph.D.
> Associate Staff
> Department of Biomedical Engineering
> Cleveland Clinic Foundation
> vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
TaskMaster from Lighthouse Design is an outstanding project management
application. It provides hierarchical resource pools, an interactive task
outliner, drag and drop task dependencies, click-drag editing of project
data, and customizable Gantt charts. Other advanced features include cost
and expense tracking, configurable utilization histograms, automatic
resource assignments, and priority-based levelling. TaskMaster can also
read legacy data from Microsoft Project, MacProject, and AutoPlan files,
and export data to common text formats.
Let me know if you need more information.
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From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Word rtf files and mail.app
Date: 7 Feb 1996 21:04:02 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4hi122.11n.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <4f5bq1$mu9@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
On 5 Feb 1996 16:38:25 GMT, Mark E. Kotanchek <mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu> wrote:
> He has access to FrameMaker 5.0 -- but I cannot read that under NS. :( Do we
> have a mechanism for transfer other than as straight ASCII?
He could use FrameMaker to save to MIF and send that file to you, which you
could read in FrameMaker 3.2, the latest version available for NS (you might
need to rename the file to end in ".framemif"). Be warned though, MIF from
FrameMaker 5.0 could have data that FrameMaker 3.2 can't understand.
Depending on what he did in his FrameMaker 5.0 document, you might not be
able to read or manipulate all the data in FrameMaker 3.2. In other words,
MIF is only upward-compatible.
From: edx@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Documents in MSDOS .EXE format??
Message-ID: <1996Feb7.093042.73406@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 7 Feb 96 09:30:41 MDT
References: <1996Feb4.131241.73152@cc.usu.edu> <4f4pqm$j8a@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: Utah State University
In article <4f4pqm$j8a@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, Frank Seaton Taylor <prime@vt.edu> writes:
> In article <1996Feb4.131241.73152@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu writes:
>> I see more and more public documents being distributed
>> as some sort of MS-DOS (or Windows or whatever) self-extracting
>> executable with a .exe extension.
>
> <snip>
>
>> An example of these would be the IRS Tax forms available
>> from http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/irs/fwforms.html.
>
> Usually these are PKZIP self-extracting archives. If you will rename
> them <whatever>.zip, Opener.app will handle them.
>
> As a testament to this, I have done it with two IRS publications from
> the address you listed. (It didn't help much since they use some funky
> windows postscript that won't preview properly---I bet it would print
> though---However, I was unwilling to risk it on > 30 page documents.)
Indeed this is the case. Opener.app handled them just fine after
renaming them with a .zip extension.
As for the broken postscript code, I used Tailor to clean that up.
Tailor is really a *great* postscript tool - all I had to do was
open them up and save them back away. And all the broken postscript
code generated by Windows programs has been repaired. It previews and
prints very nicely now.
Thanks.
- HRC -
hcole@spanky.idec.sdl.usu.edu
From: andy@focus.demon.co.uk (Andrew Norman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 21:13:39 GMT
Organization: Ancom
Message-ID: <3117f570.12726378@news.demon.co.uk>
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On 6 Feb 1996 14:12:26 GMT, kurtg@iastate.edu (Kurt Glaesemann) wrote:
>BUT, You have to reboot to switch from linux to MacOS
Presumably if they made some future version of MacOS that could run on
top of a Mach micro kernel then you would be able to switch from one
to the other.
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From: Damir Smitlener <damir@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 16:56:47 -0500
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
Message-ID: <3119201F.2443171F@mindspring.com>
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Lawson English wrote:
>
> Damir Smitlener <damir@mindspring.com> wrote:
> : Lawson English wrote:
> [snipt]
> : I'd love to hear what sequence of thoughts you went through to get that conclusion
> : from his statement. With slow, small steps:
>
> : OpenStep ~> MacOS
> : D'OLE ~> OpenDoc
> : :. OpenStep + D'OLE ~> MacOS + OpenDoc
>
> OpenStep ~> MacOS
> OpenDoc ~> MacOS
>
> OpenDoc ~> OpenStep...
Ahhh....I see! So you thought he was agreeing with you based on statements he _didn't_ make! That's
a neat trick. I'm not sure how useful it will be in the long-run, but a neat trick nonetheless.
> And I don't think that
>
> D'OLE ~> OpenDoc
(still waiting for you to say why)
> so OpenStep + D'OLE ~> MacOS + OpenDoc
>
> isn't likely to be valid.
Jeez, you can't even keep track of your own logic. You said 'OpenDoc -> MacOS', and you said
'OpenStep -> MacOS', so it now becomes (by your reckoning)
MacOS + D'OLE !-> MacOS + MacOS
So MacOS + some good stuff isn't even comparable to MacOS? Wow, you're just full of neat tricks!
------------------------
Damir Smitlener
damir@mindpsring.com
gt7092d@prism.gatech.edu
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 7 Feb 1996 22:58:26 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4fbaqi$74a@news4.digex.net>
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Lawson English <english@primenet.com> wrote:
> You're still thinking application-centric.
See Malcom, the real problem is that you and all the meek developers
here (with their cumulative experience) simply fail to grasp the
subtle distinctions and nuances of OpenDoc...while Mr. English has
an understanding so deep, that it is in fact an instinctive intuition
about OpenStep.
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From: Leon von Stauber <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 16:47:37 -0600
Organization: University of Texas Computation Center
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Lawson English wrote:
>
> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
> : OpenStep with D'OLE closely compares to MacOS with OpenDoc.
>
> However, since I obviously DO know what OpenStep is, since you finally
> ended up agreeing with me that OpenDoc compares to OpenStep
That is not what Chuck said. OpenDoc *plus MacOS* compares
to OpenStep (except for certain things, like the fact that OpenStep runs
on multiple platforms. OpenDoc *plus MacOS* does not). Please keep the
details of a statement intact when arguing against it.
__________________________________________________________________________
Leon von Stauber http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~leonvs/
University of Texas Computation Center <leonvs@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu>
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"We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!"
From: changw@nmt.edu (willie* chang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 7 Feb 1996 22:59:52 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, Socorro NM
Message-ID: <4fbat8$aad@newshost.nmt.edu>
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>Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
[snip]
> I go to Apple's homepage. No mention of OpenDoc. Scan through "Info
> about Apple". No mention of OpenDoc. Scan through "Products &
> Support". No mention of OpenDoc. Scan through "Developer Services".
> No mention of OpenDoc. Anyone detect a trend? There's no search engine
[snip]
It's in the Technology & Research category (QD3D, QTVR,...).
willie* changw@nmt.edu http://nmt.edu/~changw
Think small, do big. Inspire, not dogmatize.
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From: Olivier Chapiteau <olivchap@net.asi.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for DAO software on Nextstep ?
Date: 7 Feb 1996 22:57:41 GMT
Organization: Acces et Solutions Internet - Tel: 7893.0000 - Fax: 7893.0099
Message-ID: <4fbap5$5nl@s2.asi.fr>
I just put a DAO software on this site :
ftp.asi.fr/pub/asi/next
Download and try it.
Sorry, it's in french
From: Lawson English <english@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
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Date: 7 Feb 1996 17:26:00 -0700
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Gregory R Block <gblock@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
: In comp.sys.next.software (<4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>),Lawson English (english@primenet.com) wrote:
: | Excuse?
: |
: | OpenStep isn't as good as OpenDoc.
: |
: | In fact, it is rather lame, compared to OpenDoc.
: Well, allow me to disagree.
: OpenDoc is a pretty API sitting on top of a SOM-compliant ORB. It's
: like OLE on steroids, and it's nice.
: But OpenStep it isn't. OpenStep has an ORB that's compliant with SOM,
: DSOM, OLE, now D'OLE, CORBA, and PDO. That's a powerful ORB, no
: matter which way you shake a stick at it. As a matter of fact, the
: best thing about OpenStep/NS's ORB is the fact that you can shake
: sticks at it in lots of ways, and it still knows what you're doing.
: OpenStep has a full user interface. OpenStep has Display PostScript.
: OpenStep is more-or-less an OS designed to sit on other OSes.
: OpenDoc is neat, but an OS it isn't. And there's nothing preventing
: NeXT from adding one more API to their already robust ORB, hence
: OpenDoc.
Please explain the difference between the API that OPenDoc implements to
handle menus, events, graphics, disk I/O, object communications, etc, and
the more "OS-like" API of OpenStep.
And I looked and couldn't find a claim *anywhere* that OpenStep was
CORBA-compliant. I understand that there will be/already are *gateways*
to allow communications between the various ORBs, but I wasn't aware that
OpenStep itself was CORBA-compliant. Could you give me a URL? I looked in
the white paper that was at the top of the Yahoo search and it mentioned
CORBA once, *implying* that OpenStep was compatible with CORBA without
actually saying so.
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From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mSQL and VarioData Pro
Date: 8 Feb 1996 02:33:06 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4fbnd2$19p1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Hello all!
I've recently installed mSQL and the free EOF adaptor. While playing with
this setup I noticed
that VarioDataPro has an SQL option whereby the app can do limited
processing on SQL databases. VarioDataPro supports:
Sybase
Oracle
Interbase
Informix
I've been unsuccessful at getting VarioDataPro to work with mSQL. Anybody
had any luck getting the two to work?
I ask because VarioData has a nice interface for working with information.
However, there
is no automated way to insert info into a VarioData database. What I would
like to do is to have some apps that can insert/update the information in
mSQL and then I would like to use VarioDataPro to view and manipulate that
data for reports and such.
Thoughts? Any help sincerely appreciated.
- Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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From: Aleksey Sudakov <zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 96 04:37:44 +0300
Subject: Re: WebObjects installation
In article <4f52go$e2k@bignews.shef.ac.uk>, mmalcolm wrote:
> Is it possible to install WebObjects anywhere other than /?
> For various reasons I want to install it in my home directory
but, although
> the Apache server works fine, when I try to run any WO stuff I
simply get a
> "Did not receive any response from application." error.
So do I. I even receive "Did not receive any response from
application." for WebObjects' applications stored in directores
other than WebObjects/Examples and links to WebObjects/Examples
don't properly work either.
> I notice that /NextLibrary/WebObjects is listed in the WebObjects
binary, so
> is that location hard-wired?
Looks like that. Even more is /NextLibrary/WebObjects/Examples is
hard-wired?
Regards,
Aleksey
_________________________________________________________________
Aleksey Sudakov
1A-1 Kerchenskaya Street
Moscow 113303,Russia.
________________________________________________________________
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Is there project planning software?
In-Reply-To: vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org's message of 5 Feb 1996 14:16:33 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.96Feb8004131@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4f53g1$48q@slider.bme.ri.ccf.org>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 05:41:31 GMT
Lighthouse Design's TaskMaster.app!
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
In article <4f53g1$48q@slider.bme.ri.ccf.org> vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org writes:
I'm feeling the need to get my hands on some project planning software. I know
there is stuff like Project Manager for Windows, but I'd like to use something
on my NeXT. I need to develop timelines and critical path plots. Anything
like that available for black hardware?
From: William Taylor <wwtaylor@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 8 Feb 1996 06:15:01 GMT
Organization: CMC, Inc
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In article <4f6q5v$l5l@thor.cmp.ilstu.edu> , rdean@heartland.bradley.edu
writes:
>Most of the buzzwords that are all the rage in computing today can be traced
>back to NeXTSTEP as the first OS to implement. Microkernals are all the rage
>now, as well as drag-n-drop and object-oriented programming. Microsoft
>actually bought some NeXT machines so they could analyze the OS and try
>to copy/steal some things.
NeXTSTEP is very cool, especially on fast HP workstations. Too bad NeXT
did not get more of a chance. IMO, the totally ideal system would be a
combination of NeXT and Apple. PowerMac's running NeXTstep would
transcend either product.
It is too bad that the parties involved were not more open. Apple should
have brought NeXT back into the fold once NS was finished. That is how
the sparcstation came to be, and Sun did not let any personal ego's or
conflicts stand in the way of a sound business move.
OpenDoc has the potential to be as cool. It is one of the most
interesting products I've seen in a few years.
WT
From: dunham@cs.tulane.edu (Andrea Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TeXmenu2.2b.tar
Date: 8 Feb 1996 06:46:29 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Message-ID: <4fc685$rqi@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu>
Hi All,
I'm running a v2.2 (black) NeXTstation. Do you know where I can find
Harald Schlangmann's shareware TeXmenu2.2b.tar?
* AndREa * (dunham@cs.tulane.edu)
From: marc@accessone.com(Marc Salvatori)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NetWareManager via PPP?
Date: 8 Feb 1996 07:15:03 GMT
Organization: AccessOne
Message-ID: <4fc7tn$mtl@news.accessone.com>
Keywords: NetWareManager PPP
Must en0 exist for NetWareManager to work? /etc/rc makes that implication.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori |
><
>< mailto:salvo@eskimo.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted
><
From: cph@next.com (Charles d'Harcourt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WebObjects installation
Date: 8 Feb 1996 08:59:27 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4fce1f$2ge@news.next.com>
References: <4f52go$e2k@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
On 5 Feb 1996, mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes:
> Is it possible to install WebObjects anywhere other than /?
> For various reasons I want to install it in my home directory but,
> although the Apache server works fine, when I try to run any WO stuff
> I simply get a "Did not receive any response from application." error.
>
> I notice that /NextLibrary/WebObjects is listed in the WebObjects
> binary, so is that location hard-wired?
/NextLibrary/WebObjects/Executables is indeed hard-wired as the place
where WebObjects looks to autostart Web executables such as DefaultApp
(and also EOFDefaultApp from WebObjects entreprise, or binaries compiled
with WebObjects Pro).
This only affects the autostart feature: WebObjects will still work if
you put its executables elsewhere, but you'll have to "manually" start a
process for each web application you want to access. For example, if you
want to run HelloWorld and have moved /NextLibrary/WebObjects to /X/Y/Z
and /NextLibrary/WebServer to /A/B/C, you will need to put in rc.local or
type in a terminal window the following command:
/X/Y/Z/Executables/DefaultApp -d /A/B/C/htdocs Examples/HelloWorld
HelloWorld would then be accessible through your server. In the command
above, "-d /A/B/C/htdocs" specifies your server's document root, and
"Examples/HelloWorld" specifies the directory of the web app you want to
start relative to the "WebObjects" directory in your server's document
root. The "-d /A/B/C/htdocs" part is optional when running with many (but
not all) web servers.
This kind of web app launching is complex, and mostly meant to enable the
distribution of web apps over a network for scalability, or to allow fine
control over the web app processes. Autolaunch is really the way to go
for most cases, especially when investigating the examples. So you
definitely should try to keep WebObjects in /NextLibray/WebObjects, if at
all possible (that's the configuration it was designed for and that will
be supported).
C=
PS: In response to a later post by Aleksey Sudakov:
/NextLibrary/WebObjects/Examples is not hard-wired. WebObjects finds
examples like Examples/HelloWorld by looking in the WebObjects directory
of the web server's document root (at installation time, a symbolic link
is put there that points to /NextLibrary/WebObjects/HelloWorld). This
could all be changed, as long as the "Examples/CyberWind" part of the URL
used to access the example is updated to point to the new path of the
example relative to <DocRoot>/WebObjects. Not that you'd want to
gratuitously move these files around any more than you'd want to move
files around from the NEXTSTEP distribution: That just leads to debugging
headaches and confusion when the next release needs to be installed.
__________________________________________________________
Charles d'Harcourt, WebObjects Group, NeXT Software, Inc.
mailto:cph@next.com http://www.next.com/~cph
Not speaking on behalf of NeXT or near-abstract spheroids
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Raw audio-CD data: how to grab w/NS/Intel?
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:25:10 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960208142400.13325B-100000@hphalle0f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
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There is CD_evil. An app which is able to read/write raw CD-Audio data.
Unfortunately only Toshiba XM drives are supported. Contact the author
for CDU support.
Greetings,
Boerny.
--
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scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: Joe Freeman <Joe@FreemanSoft.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WebObjects installation
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 08:12:07 -0500
Organization: FreemanSoft Inc.
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To: Aleksey Sudakov <zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
The best place to put WebObjects apps is in
xxx/htdocs/WebObjects
where xxx is the location of your web server
(/NextLibrary/WebServer for the beta)
Web Objects looks in the htdocs directory, where
all good web pages should go, for a directory
called WebObjects. It expects to find its apps
there. So, to run the examples the url is usually
http://machine/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Examples/CyberWind
Our test app, called SERFS is reached at
http://machine/cgi-bin/WebObjects/SERFS
where SERFS is in the htdocs/WebObjects directory.
You can sym-link from your development directory
to the htdocs directory if you want it to always
point at your development directory.
Aleksey Sudakov wrote:
>
> In article <4f52go$e2k@bignews.shef.ac.uk>, mmalcolm wrote:
> > Is it possible to install WebObjects anywhere other than /?
> > For various reasons I want to install it in my home directory
> but, although
> > the Apache server works fine, when I try to run any WO stuff I
> simply get a
> > "Did not receive any response from application." error.
>
> So do I. I even receive "Did not receive any response from
> application." for WebObjects' applications stored in directores
> other than WebObjects/Examples and links to WebObjects/Examples
> don't properly work either.
>
> > I notice that /NextLibrary/WebObjects is listed in the WebObjects
> binary, so
> > is that location hard-wired?
>
--
Joe Freeman --
WebObject software development in the DC area.
The governer of MD wants to spend $300M on
a rent free pro football stadium which is
only used 10 times a year.
For whom is he really doing this deal?
From: gblock@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 8 Feb 1996 15:20:05 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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In comp.sys.next.software (<4fbfuo$ku1@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>),Lawson English (english@primenet.com) wrote:
| Please explain the difference between the API that OPenDoc implements to
| handle menus, events, graphics, disk I/O, object communications, etc, and
| the more "OS-like" API of OpenStep.
Foundation Kit. Enterprise Objects. The Mach Kit. OpenStep isn't a
wrapper for OpenStep, it's an OS.
OpenDoc is a wrapper that provides functionality, but it isn't an OS.
It's an "environment", meant to provide what they expect will be most
of a part, but certainly not providing full OS services at the same
level that OS/NS does.
Or are you really trying to imply that OpenDoc removes the need for
the underlying OS to exist? OpenDoc sure doesn't agree.
| CORBA once, *implying* that OpenStep was compatible with CORBA without
| actually saying so.
I've heard Jobs mention it, so I assumed that it was. Could be
marketspeak, tho.
Which is fine; either way, CORBA means very little to me. DO is what
I use.
Greg
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ogihara@seg.kobe-u.ac.jp
Subject: How to Play MPEG ?
Sender: news@icluna.kobe-u.ac.jp (news-admin)
Message-ID: <ogihara.96Feb8143148@celesta>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 19:31:48 GMT
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Information Processing Center
I want to use so-called "Video on Demand" system on NEXTSTEP.
(NS would be on Intel or SPARC)
However there are some mpeg player such as MPEG_Play.app,
Movie.app, and so on, they are too slow and can't play sound
synchronously.
I want to see video data stored in VOD server as some softwares
on SPARC, Indy, or Windows could.
Does anyone know MPEG Player that is able to play smoothly
video and sound of MPEG1 (or 2) data ?
Or, is any MPEG decoding board on Intel available from NS ?
--ogihara-- Takeshi Ogihara, Kobe Univ.
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Word rtf files and mail.app
Date: 8 Feb 1996 15:44:23 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <4fd5on$20k5@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
References: <slrn4hi122.11n.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
In article <slrn4hi122.11n.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
On 5 Feb 1996 16:38:25 GMT, Mark E. Kotanchek <mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu> wrote:
> He has access to FrameMaker 5.0 -- but I cannot read that under NS. :( Do
we
> have a mechanism for transfer other than as straight ASCII?
He could use FrameMaker to save to MIF and send that file to you, which you
could read in FrameMaker 3.2, the latest version available for NS (you might
need to rename the file to end in ".framemif"). Be warned though, MIF from
FrameMaker 5.0 could have data that FrameMaker 3.2 can't understand.
Depending on what he did in his FrameMaker 5.0 document, you might not be
able to read or manipulate all the data in FrameMaker 3.2. In other words,
MIF is only upward-compatible.
A public thanks to all who responded to my query -- the rtf file is now safely
ensconced in my FrameMaker document.
I did send of a note to Frame/Adobe and got the response that...
At this time, we do not have an OPENSTEP or NEXTSTEP port on our
engineering schedule, but we will continue to evaluate these markets.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to buy a Mac (I'm into niche machines;) to
communicate with the rest of the world. Anyhow, one of the major changes in the
FrameMaker 3.2 -> 5.0 transition was in equation editing so that _I_ have very
little backward compatibility via MIF files. Does anybody know whether filters
exist to get those documents back into a form which I can edit?
One of the nice things about FrameMaker is that it truly is portable across a
variety of platforms (at least within versions) -- unlike MS Word which isn't
even compatible for the same version between Macs and PCs.
Thanks for any pointers,
Mark.
--
Dr. Mark Kotanchek
Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
From: kennedy@b0ru01.fnal.gov (Robert Daniel Kennedy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: memory fault running shell script
Date: 8 Feb 1996 16:46:45 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Batavia IL, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4fd9dl$onq@fnnews.fnal.gov>
Hello,
While installing GCC 2.7.2, I came across a problem which is not caused by
GCC, and I do not know what is actually causing it. I have already successfully
installed GCC 2.7.1 in the past on my m68k-next-nextstep3, running NEXTSTEP
3.3.1.
Now, when I execute './configure m68k-next-nextstep3', things roll along
until the end of a big 'sh' case-switch when I get a message saying something
like: ./configure - memory fault (some #'s) (core dump). I think the core dump
is of 'sh', but 'sh' is stripped so the core is useless. I have tried to use
'bash' instead, and to carefully remove any non-standard programs from the PATH
seen by the script, and this prevents the core-dumps but produces zero-length
Makefiles (ie, configure does not seem to operate quite right under bash).
After much thrashing about looking for a cause, I finally tried to rebuild
GCC-2.7.1 just to see what was different, since I have already built it in the
past... and this memory fault occurs again! So either hardware or software
changed since I last built GCC-2.7.1. Since the PATH avoids any /usr/local
stuff, only patches to NEXTSTEP could be involved in a software problem... I think.
Suggestions as to what may be causing this, or similar experiences would be
much appreciated.
Thanks,
Rob Kennedy
kennedy@fnal.gov
Rutgers/CDF/Fermilab
The Top Quark Folks
From: tjallen@theory1.physics.wisc.edu (Theodore J. Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem with Latex and fonts
Date: 8 Feb 1996 16:42:27 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison
Message-ID: <4fd95j$129u@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <4eoffe$t3l@news.cc.brandeis.edu> <4epduj$rbf@agate.berkeley.edu> <4fa86a$ber@news.tuwien.ac.at>
willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at (Wilhelm Pitzeier) wrote:
> In <4epduj$rbf@agate.berkeley.edu> Paul Robert Brown wrote:
> > You may need to hack the MakeTeXPK file a little bit, but you'll also
> > need a 600dpi "mode" for metafont, eg., ljfour.mode or the like. You
> > should consider using the MakeFonts (or something similar) script to
> > build-up a suite of 600dpi resolution fonts. You will have to modify the
> > script.
> Has anybody already done this?
There is a package on the archives
(both peanuts and next-ftp.peak.org)
called 600dpi.V1.tar.gz that has
all of the work done for you.
--
Ted Allen Ph.D.
High Energy Physics
University of Wisconsin-Madison
tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
http://theory2.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/
From: paradigm@mercury.interpath.net (Dave Briggman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 8 Feb 1996 03:53:31 GMT
Organization: Interpath -- Providing Internet access to North Carolina
Message-ID: <4fbs3r$mrk@redstone.interpath.net>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <Ql5NrvC00iVEI90JEH@andrew.cmu.edu> <Ul5Zmoa00iWPA7dWsX@andrew.cmu.edu> <4f7t3p$a4e@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <3117C9CA.623FA875@mindspring.com> <4f989l$iqt@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
Lawson English (english@primenet.com) wrote:
:
:----------------------------------------------------------------------------
: Lawson English __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____
: english@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ /
: / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ /
: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Could it be that since IBM is probably going to kill OS/2, that this guy is
really Mike Dahmus?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: ISDN KA9Q ISPA
Message-ID: <1996Feb7.195935.1509@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4f3b70$9p6@news.next.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 19:59:35 GMT
In article <4f3b70$9p6@news.next.com> grio@next.com (Dan Grillo) writes:
> In article <1996Feb3.221407.1107@xenicos.fdn.fr>,
> Francois BIENTZ <franc@xenicos.fdn.fr> wrote:
> > I want to use a PC with KA9Q and ISPA as a ISDN router for a NEXTSTEP
> > machine.But how to configure the files on the PC and on NEXTSTEP ???
>
> I don't know what ISPA is, but I'm using a PC running KA9Q as
> my ethernet<->ISDN router. Maybe I can help. Here's my set up:
>
> --ethernet 1--+-------dos box --- nexts --- etc.----
> |
>
> [ intel ether express 1 ]
> [ 286 running KA9Q ]
> [ intel ether express 2 ]
>
> |
> --ethernet 2 -+--- single Mac address Combinet ISDN box
>
>
> All of the machines on ethernet 1 have a default route pointing to
> the KA9Q machine, interface 1. The KA9Q machine's default route
> points to work. Work has a route to ethernet 1 that points to the
> KA9Q interface 2.
>
> The only devices on ethernet 2 are the Combinet and the 286.
>
> I'm running a slightly custom version of KA9Q version 920603 on
> a 286 with 4 megs of ram, with 2 ethernet cards with packet drivers,
> a single 3.5 floppy drive (no hard drive) and an EGA card connected
> to an Apple IIGS analog RGB monitor.
>
> It's worked well for about a year.
>
Very common and well tested low price IP-over-ISDN router solution. Just
that the most likely conf replaces the second Ethernet adapter and ISDN
box with a plug in ISDN card. Even rather cheap low end models will do.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp, MIME, NeXTmail # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple OPENSTEP VS OpenDoc
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 19:43:24 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University
Message-ID: <311803BC.5287@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4f41a8$j2a@pentagon.io.com> <4f4a6t$sns@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
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Terry Wilcox <terry@io.com> wrote:
> : In article <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>,
> : >OpenStep isn't as good as OpenDoc.
> : >In fact, it is rather lame, compared to OpenDoc.
Also, eric.larson@shockwave.metronj.org (eric larson) emailed me:
> > I'll never understand why if Apple does not license OPENSTEP.
>OpenStep is sadly obsolete compared to OpenDoc. There is no reason to license a
>technology that is out of date. OpenStep doesn't even support a compound
>document format!
I'll never believe that for a second. OPENSTEP is the kind of
technological foundation that a technology like compound documents
needs underneath it. Actually the whole idea of objects in reality
will come together to form compound applications- exactly the things
OpenDoc is trying to do- except OpenDoc is much less sophisticated than
the tools of OPENSTEP and the OPENSTEP Workspace app tight integration.
Even NeXT doesn't have all the answers. They are working with Sun to
integrate Java with WEB OBJECTS and they should learn to integrate with
OpenDoc technologies. It's all for the betterment of all OS's!!!
Eric
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UNITY RESPECT
"Understanding is best learned via experience."
"Follow our instinct, not a trend. Go against the grain until the end."
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VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
From: rdean@heartland.bradley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 7 Feb 1996 06:03:22 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University-IS/Network Services
Message-ID: <4f9fba$101a@thor.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <4f4a6t$sns@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>?<4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>?<4f41a8$j2a@pentagon.io.com>?a <4f642e$ne0@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <4f938g$doq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <31181684.1A15@ix.netcom.com> <4f9a1u$ko5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
In <4f9a1u$ko5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Lawson English <english@primenet.com> writes:
>You guys still don't seem to get it.
The set of guys who don't get it includes you, Lawson.
I'll put it this way: there is no one best way to do something. Everything that
you propose to do in OpenDoc can be done in OpenStep, with a modest amount
of foundation programming. OpenDoc introduces a deal of overhead as well.
From: anstine@orion.sas.upenn.edu (David R. Anstine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Terminal.app and PF keys
Date: 8 Feb 1996 18:36:02 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <4fdfqi$tmf@netnews.upenn.edu>
How does one emulate vt100 PF keys with Terminal.app? I need to emulate a
PF2 and also a vt100's 'clear' key.
The clear usually works by the keypad's 'ENTER'. I can sometimes get a
PF2 emulation by mucking with the preferences; but I can never get them
to work at the same time.
Any clues?
-dave
From: fordp@polaris.net (Perrone Ford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help... Need graphics converter
Date: 8 Feb 1996 13:35:47 -0500
Organization: Polaris Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <4fdfq3$3df@nexus.polaris.net>
Hello,
I am in need of a program to convert one type fo graphics file to
another. While I know this does not seem like a big deal, the problem is
the file types...
I need to convert
From To
.wmf Tiff or jpeg or EPS
.pct same
If anyone has a utility, or knows of one, I would be MOST grateful...
And PLEASE dont say use Tiffany or some other $1k program... I ain't got
Nooooooo MONEY! :)
Thanx
Perrone Ford
fordp@polaris.net
--
<----------------------------------------------------------->
Perrone Ford 1320 Terrace St.
HighTime Web Development Tallahassee, FL 32303
(904) 222-0620 or 681-6322 hightime@polaris.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: Problem with Latex and fonts
Message-ID: <DMGJFp.Ay@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <4fa86a$ber@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:45:23 GMT
In article <4fa86a$ber@news.tuwien.ac.at> willi@eitaco.tuwien.ac.at
(Wilhelm Pitzeier) writes:
> In <4epduj$rbf@agate.berkeley.edu> Paul Robert Brown wrote:
> > You may need to hack the MakeTeXPK file a little bit, but you'll
> > also need a 600dpi "mode" for metafont, eg., ljfour.mode or the
> > like. You should consider using the MakeFonts (or something
> > similar) script to build-up a suite of 600dpi resolution fonts.
> > You will have to modify the script.
> Has anybody already done this?
>
> Greeting from Vienna, Austria
> Willi (who wants to print 600dpi LaTeX on a HP LaserJet 5MP)
All you need is
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Text/tex/library/600dpi
.V1.d.tar.gz.
From the README:
These archive contains all files necessery to use 600dpi with
NeXTTeX.
NeXTTeX using standard tool to produce printable file, these are the
files you need to let 'dvips', 'mf' and 'MakeTeXPK' produce
pixel-fonts with a reselution of 600 dpi like the HP 4 can use.
The archive contains 4 changed files and one README.
Changes are documented in the two files humans can read.
Michael
--
Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen,
Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 543915
Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
PGP : Public Key on demand
From: wjs@omnigroup.com (William Shipley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb: beta 3 crashes on some forms, please upgrade to beta 4
Date: 8 Feb 1996 11:50:35 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <4fco2b$2ke@gaea.titan.org>
References: <4etbvl$lnl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <4f4j67$9pi@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <3117D511.7408@FreemanSoft.COM>
Joe Freeman <Joe@FreemanSoft.COM> wrote:
>2.0beta2 seems to be more stable that 2.0B3. I have several
>form based web pages which croak OW2.0B3 which worked fine under
>OW2.0B2. Only having one beta released web browser makes it
>difficult to do web development.
Beta 3 had a big crasher with forms submissions. We got a ton of bug
reports on this. We apologize for letting this through; it's fixed
for Beta 4. (For those curious, it WAS one of the few places
where we still use malloc() instead of NSData and the like.)
Beta 4 is being released today (February 8). It doesn't expire until
March, by which time the final release will be out with its free,
non-expiring single user license.
Please upgrade from Beta 3 to Beta 4 as soon as possible.
If you'd like to see what's changed, follow this URL:
http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/2.0/ReleaseNotes.html
If you're interested in upgrading, follow this one:
http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/2.0/Download.html
And, if you're not sure if you want OmniWeb 2.0, check out this page:
http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/2.0/Features.html
If you can find a better free browser for NEXTSTEP... well, I'll be.
Thanks,
-Wil
PS: You can always take the Reginfo.Reginfo file from the newer
beta and put it in the older beta if you like the old one better.
From: lacourse (Dan LaCourse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniPDF (was Re: Documents in MSDOS .EXE format??)
Date: 8 Feb 1996 20:32:01 GMT
Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4fdmk1$dj2@chinx4.thoughtport.net>
References: <4f91nl$55a@emerald.oz.net> <4f959s$5dd@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
In <4f959s$5dd@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Frank Seaton Taylor wrote:
>In article <4f91nl$55a@emerald.oz.net> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
>writes:
>> Each PostScript document is a single page!! The 80-page 1040A
>> Instructions tried to print all 80 pages on a single page. Truly
>funky.
>>
>> Download the PDF documents and save them as PostScript files from
>OmniPDF
>> if you want to do some manipulating like 2-sided printing. Then
>submit the
>> good PostScript files to the Treasury Dept. :-)
>> --
>
>I had already tried this (or rather the OmniPDF part), but OmniPDF
>immediately quits itself whenever I try to launch it. Could it be that I
>need NeXTSTEP 3.3? (I'm using 3.2 on black hardware.)
>
>
Yes. OmniPDF.app requires the Foundation Kit, which is part of NS3.3 but
not 3.2 . This seems to be becoming a more & more common requirement
(unfortunately for me; I'm running NS3.2 also).
PDF viewers that don't require FK:
PDFViewer.app
PDFView.app
Tailor.app (limited functionality for .pdf viewing, though; not designed
for this purpose)
Other apps I've come across recently that require FK:
Kiwi.app (newsreader)
ToyViewer.app (imageviewer)
OmniWeb.app (release 2.0; web browser; not having this one really hurts!)
Encircle.app (don't remember)
If you open a Console window in Workspace, you'll see the following error
message appear when you try to run an app that needs FK: Bad executable (or
shared library)
Cheers,
Dan
From: vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there project planning software?
Date: 7 Feb 1996 21:02:07 GMT
Organization: Cleveland Clinic Foundation
Message-ID: <4fb40f$ri@slider.bme.ri.ccf.org>
Thank you all for the advice. About 10 people responded and ALL of them
recommended I try out TaskMaster from Lighthouse. I downloaded a demo copy,
from the Lighthouse Web page, tried it out, liked it and will now be buying
it.....
This is the way to do business on the net!!! :-)
--
Ivan Vesely, Ph.D.
Associate Staff
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Cleveland Clinic Foundation
vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
http://www.ccf.org/ri/bme/valve/
From: Jeff Franco
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Easter egg on Configure.app
Date: 8 Feb 1996 23:23:51 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <4fe0m7$8bk@news.mcl.bdm.com>
I know this is probably old hat for a lot of you, but how do you set off the
easter egg on the info panel in Configure.app. I have tried in vain for
many-a-day to set this thing off. I have opened the app as a folder and
looked at the window in IB, but I still cannot activate the animator.
Help!
Signed,
Hopelessly Unproductive.
(Jeff Franco)
(jfranco@plato.sky.bdm.com)
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: 9 Feb 1996 00:17:03 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4hl0n1.1qf.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <4etbvl$lnl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <4f4j67$9pi@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <3117D511.7408@FreemanSoft.COM>
On Tue, 06 Feb 1996 17:24:17 -0500, Joe Freeman <Joe@FreemanSoft.COM> wrote:
> I tried using NetSurfer on an evaluation but it didn't have
> table or frame support. Does anyone know if this has been
> fixed?
I have heard HTML 3 support and more is due in the next two versions, a
minor upgrade (1.2, I believe) and the next major version (2.0).
From: ocm@sn.no (Ole Chr. Magneshaugen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Windows NT on Black Hardware (No flaming Please...)
Date: 8 Feb 1996 16:32:36 GMT
Organization: SN Internett
Message-ID: <4fd8j4$ma@hasle.sn.no>
Do not flame me because of my question...Is it possible to run Windows NT on
Black Next hardware? A friend of mine claims he has seen Next machine
specifics...Please inform.
-olechr
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Easter egg on Configure.app
Date: 9 Feb 1996 04:36:08 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona Mathematics Department
Message-ID: <4feivo$8am@amethyst.math.arizona.edu>
References: <4fe0m7$8bk@news.mcl.bdm.com>
In <4fe0m7$8bk@news.mcl.bdm.com> Jeff Franco wrote:
> I know this is probably old hat for a lot of you, but how do you set off
the
> easter egg on the info panel in Configure.app. I have tried in vain for
Command + Alt + Click the icon. Enjoy!
--
Best Regards
Yuwen Cheng
yucheng@math.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stewartj@probe.co.uk (James Stewart)
Subject: Pier to Pier connection
Sender: usenet@news.zippo.com
Organization: Probe Entertainment
Message-ID: <DMGH9o.C4y@news.zippo.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:56:49 GMT
I need to copy files from a machine using nextstep to one using
standard dos / windows. How is this done ? I have heard of a system
called Pier to Pier connection but don't know any details. If anyone
has any further info I would me most grateful if you could let me
know.
Cheers
James.....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stewartj@probe.co.uk (James Stewart)
Subject: Pier to Pier
Sender: usenet@news.zippo.com
Organization: Probe Entertainment
Message-ID: <DMGIKL.DJA@news.zippo.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:24:45 GMT
I need to copy files from a machine using nextstep to one using
standard dos / windows. How is this done ? I have heard of a system
called Pier to Pier connection but don't know any details. If anyone
has any further info I would me most gratefull if you could let me
know.
Cheers
James.....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stewartj@probe.co.uk (James Stewart)
Subject: Pier to Pier
Sender: usenet@news.zippo.com
Organization: Probe Entertainment
Message-ID: <DMGILt.DtL@news.zippo.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:25:36 GMT
I need to copy files from a machine using nextstep to one using
standard dos / windows. How is this done ? I have heard of a system
called Pier to Pier connection but don't know any details. If anyone
has any further info I would me most grateful if you could let me
know.
Cheers
James.....
jamess@probe.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: Aleksey Sudakov <zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 96 11:56:26 +0300
Subject: Re: WebObjects installation
References: <9602080137.AA22498@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
<3119F6A7.6E9E@FreemanSoft.com>
Thanks to all who replied. It really helped. The solution is to
create links to /NextLibrary/WebServer/htdocs.
I've post a suggestion to NeXT about making WebObjects configurable
to recognize directories others that /NextLibrary/WebServer/htdocs
as directories contained WebObjects components, i.e. something like
srm.conf's ScriptAlias for cgi scripts. It will let each user have a
directory for WebObjects' components and ability to autostart these
components by opening URL like
http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/~username/Foo.
I'd like to hear your comments about that.
Regards,
Aleksey.
_________________________________________________________________
Aleksey Sudakov
1A-1 Kerchenskaya Street
Moscow 113303,Russia.
________________________________________________________________
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From: kay@cordis.lu (Kay Schulz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WebObjects installation
Date: 9 Feb 1996 11:17:59 GMT
Organization: Infopartners S.A. Luxembourg
Message-ID: <4ffah7$mp3@oops.ip.lu>
References: <9602080137.AA22498@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
In <9602080137.AA22498@cnext.crec.mipt.ru> Aleksey Sudakov wrote:
> In article <4f52go$e2k@bignews.shef.ac.uk>, mmalcolm wrote:
> > Is it possible to install WebObjects anywhere other than /?
> > For various reasons I want to install it in my home directory
> but, although
> > the Apache server works fine, when I try to run any WO stuff I
> simply get a
> > "Did not receive any response from application." error.
>
> So do I. I even receive "Did not receive any response from
> application." for WebObjects' applications stored in directores
> other than WebObjects/Examples and links to WebObjects/Examples
> don't properly work either.
>
> > I notice that /NextLibrary/WebObjects is listed in the WebObjects
> binary, so
> > is that location hard-wired?
>
> Looks like that. Even more is /NextLibrary/WebObjects/Examples is
> hard-wired?
>
> Regards,
> Aleksey
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> Aleksey Sudakov
> 1A-1 Kerchenskaya Street
> Moscow 113303,Russia.
> ________________________________________________________________
> Home: +7(095)121-6100 + 3-45, +7(095)121-0561 + 3-45
> EMail: zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru (NeXTMail & MIME are OK)
> WWW: http://www.crec.mipt.ru/~zander/
>
I use the CERN Server on a Solaris and on NS an downloaded both webobjects
None of them works with the installation describe don the Web Page
We use cgi instead of CGI-BIN and so on
--
A baby is an alimentary canal with a loud voice at one end and no
responsibility at the other.
Kay Schulz k.schulz@cordis.lu
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How can I make a gif or jpg image with a transparent background ?
Date: 9 Feb 1996 11:06:57 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4ff9sh$aks@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4f01hr$lp@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com> <4ead4v$9qc@news.petrel.ch>?<DLvnpo.7y4@musical.fdn.org>? <4ehobn$rfn@news4.digex.net>?0
In-Reply-To: <4f01hr$lp@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com>
On 02/03/96, Markus Wenzel wrote:
> In <4ehobn$rfn@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote:
>
> > Yes, or one can use giftrans...but the point is, it would be nice
> > to go from .tiff straight to .gif w/ alpha... Or better yet, from
> > Xformat, to .gif w/ alpha.
> >
> > I wish someone would put this into their image filter software.
> > I'd even be willing to shell out $150 to the Baccus folks if they
> > would integrate such a thing into PixelMagcian...
>
> Just buy TIFFany there is an excellent GIFsaver module
> with alpha, interlace and Netscape option available for all
> versions >2.30.
>
Uhh, yup, there's an ecomomical solution! ;-)
Not that I would dissuade anyone with the resources from buying TIFFany,
it's an outstanding application. But for TIFF->GIF+alpha you can use
Stephan Seel's GifOMatic -- cf
http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXSTEP/WWW/
;-)
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: pom@imsd.uni-mainz.de (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer and Firewall
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 12:07:30 GMT
Organization: Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet
Message-ID: <4ffgsn$qnc@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Is there a way to read news from a server outside of the firewall?
We use NewsGrazer and sit behind the firewall.
Free Agent and Netscape under MS-Windows :-((( work. But I like my
NeXT:-))).
Klaus Pommerening
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Windows NT on Black Hardware (No flaming Please...)
Date: 9 Feb 1996 05:49:28 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4fen99$jd2@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4fd8j4$ma@hasle.sn.no>
ocm@sn.no (Ole Chr. Magneshaugen) wrote:
> Do not flame me because of my question...Is it possible to run
> Windows NT on Black Next hardware? A friend of mine claims he
> has seen Next machine specifics...Please inform.
It is not possible.
I can't imagine it ever being possible.
There's something called OpenStep for WindowsNT, which may have
confused your friend. It brings the NeXTSTEP API (and some other
things) to WindowsNT. So, there will be some NeXTSTEP applications
which (after they're changed to be OpenStep compliant) will run on
both NeXT hardware and on WindowsNT.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: dave@tlogic.com (David Aylesworth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer and Firewall
Date: 9 Feb 1996 14:39:02 GMT
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
Message-ID: <4ffma6$kql@brickbat.mindspring.com>
References: <4ffgsn$qnc@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
pom@imsd.uni-mainz.de (Prof. Dr. Klaus Pommerening) wrote:
> Is there a way to read news from a server outside of the firewall?
> We use NewsGrazer and sit behind the firewall.
>
Sure, have your sys admin configure a generic tcp gateway which connects
requests to the firewall's nntp port to an external news server. Then
configure NewsGrazer's nntp server to be your firewall.
-Dave
--
David Aylesworth
Technologic, Inc
dave@tlogic.com
(404)843-9111x24
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario Stargard)
Subject: VarioData/Builder question...
Message-ID: <DMIMn5.GpL@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 15:49:53 GMT
I'm using variobuilder 3.22. I have one field I want related to
another, namely,
Name:
E-mail:
If an E-mail value exists for a particular Name: in the database, how do I
get it to insert it automatically into the E-mail field? Normally I would
have to have another database table with Name: as the primary key, but I
don't see how I can do that with Vario.
Has anyone done this before? Willing to share some secrets?
Help is appreciated.
--
Mario Stargard | NeXTMail Welcome, MIME Tolerated
School of Optometry | http://quark.uwaterloo.ca/~mario
University of Waterloo |
Waterloo, Ontario | "640K ought to be enough for anybody."
Canada, N2L 3G1 | -- Bill Gates '81
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: Raw audio-CD data: how to grab w/NS/Intel?
Message-ID: <DMILtE.Dsr@isltd.insignia.com>
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References: <4f9klp$6vc@news.duke.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 15:32:02 GMT
In article <4f9klp$6vc@news.duke.edu> altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee
Altenberg) writes:
> I want to do some experiments in sound processing, and want to offload
> some digital audio data from an audio CD. Now, how can I do this in
my
> NEXTSTEP3.3/Intel system?
> I've got a Sony CDU55S 2.4X SCSI CD-ROM drive
>Does NEXTSTEP support direct
> copying of audio-CD data?
NeXTStep itself does not support this (bad news)
CD_evil makes a pretty good job of it though (good news!)
Only works on Toshiba drives (Bad news)
What would be really cool would be if NeXT mod'd the audio filesystem to
apear as a number of snd files! Does anyone have documentation on
writing filesystems?
Ian
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Windows NT on Black Hardware (No flaming Please...)
Date: 9 Feb 1996 16:24:38 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ffsg6$rd7@news.its.com>
References: <4fd8j4$ma@hasle.sn.no>
ocm@sn.no (Ole Chr. Magneshaugen) wrote:
> Do not flame me because of my question...Is it possible to run Windows
> NT on Black Next hardware? A friend of mine claims he has seen
> Next machine specifics...Please inform.
Come on, think a little. It really won't hurt. :-)
Q: What CPU type is in a NeXT?
A: Motorola 680x0.
Q: Does Windows NT run on any m68k machine?
A: No.
Conclusion: No, it is not possible to run Windows NT on NeXT hardware.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: mpaque@aol.com (Mpaque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 9 Feb 1996 12:37:29 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
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References: <4f938g$doq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
In article <4f938g$doq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Lawson English
<english@primenet.com> writes:
[snip]
*SIGH* What we have here is someone who has a hammer...
(Remember the old saw: "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks
like a nail".)
Using the right tool for the job applies to runtime environments,
operating systems, and programming languages as well as any other sort of
tool chest.
OpenDoc is good at what it does. It is not a panacea for all the world's
ills, nor does it cure acne, gout, lumbago, or three-tier database
management problems.
Unfortunately, what we seem to have here is a case of inappropriate
preaching. Such behavior managed to give the Amiga community a bad name.
Mr. English, please take care that you do not do the same for the Mac
community.
Mike Paquette
--
I don't speak for NeXT Software, Inc., and they don't speak for me.
mpaque@aol.com Personal E-mail ASCII only please
"Hacking fine code for over 20 years."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mlc@iberia.cca.rockwell.com (Michael Cook)
Subject: Are any "Graphical Object Editors" available?
Message-ID: <DMIJHq.77n@lazrus.cca.rockwell.com>
Sender: news@lazrus.cca.rockwell.com
Organization: Rockwell Collins, Cedar Rapids, IA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 14:41:49 GMT
We are looking for commercial vendors who are supplying some kind of
"Graphical Object Editor" for use in a NextStep/OpenStep environment.
This Graphical Object Editor (GOE) should allow us to draw graphical
items and groups of items, and then connect those items to behaviors,
that is, calculations or inputs that drive the graphical objects to
produce an animated graphical display. If the calculations or inputs
change, the visible behavior of the object(s) change.
Some of the items we'd like to create are ground-sky balls, altitude
tapes, dials, etc. These would be initially for cockpit displays, but
other displays would probably be developed later on, for example, for
truck or locomotive "dashboards".
This GOE tool should act somewhat like VPI's VAPS (virtual avionics
prototyping system), but more dynamic.
Are there products available that we might consider?
Thanks for information,
Michael Cook
MLC@IBERIA.CCA.ROCKWELL.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 96 11:55:40 -0500
From: "Richard L. Bowman" <rbowman@Bridgewater.EDU>
Message-ID: <9602091655.AA07457@mercury.Bridgewater.EDU>
Subject: Delete keys
I can access my office-based NeXT (black) via modem from home. The problem
is that the delete keys do not work properly, and their behavior is
inconsistent from application to application. In normal terminal mode,
the DEL key appears to do what the NeXT delete key does. In the editor ed,
the DEL key appears to delete the characters but does not move backwards.
And so forth...
Does anyone have a solution?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dr. Richard L. Bowman
Dept. of Physics
Bridgewater College
Bridgewater, VA 22812
rbowman@bridgewater.edu
540-828-5441
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From: jgloede@interpc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: How can I make a gif or jpg image with a transparent background ?
Message-ID: <DMI9Fo.LKt@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 11:04:35 GMT
> > Yes, or one can use giftrans...but the point is, it would be nice
> > to go from .tiff straight to .gif w/ alpha... Or better yet,
from
> > Xformat, to .gif w/ alpha.
> >
> > I wish someone would put this into their image filter software.
> > I'd even be willing to shell out $150 to the Baccus folks if they
> > would integrate such a thing into PixelMagcian...
We submitted a free tool for that, called GifOmatic.
Should be on:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org
and several mirrors.
so long,
jens ch. gloede
--
____________________________________________________________
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80538 Munich Tel.: ++49 (0)89 22 33 75
GERMANY / Bavaria Fax.: ++49 (0)89 22 33 76
E-Mail: jens@interpc.de NeXT & MIME Mail ok (<20 kB int)
From: schwett@aimnet.com (Mark Schwettmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CD Audio and PAS-16 : NS 3.3
Date: 9 Feb 1996 22:29:40 GMT
Organization: Aimnet Information Services
Message-ID: <4fghsk$9fi@news2.aimnet.com>
Keywords: pas audio cd ns3.3
Hi.
With 3.2, I was able to use a patch for the ProAudioSpectrum16 driver that
enabled the internal line input on the card. This was the trick to getting
CD Audio to play.
When I insert an audio CD, CDPlayer.app comes up, and, indeed, it plays the
CD. However, I can't hear it as it is being piped to an input that is not
"supported" by the 3.3 PAS16 driver. (It even says this in the NeXTAnswer
on the the driver.)
Does anybody have a 3.3 solution to this problem? The drivers I used with
3.2 don't work with 3.3....
Thanks all,
Mark Schwettmann
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Terminal.app and PF keys
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 15:14:45 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960209151337.11235G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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On 8 Feb 1996, David R. Anstine wrote:
> How does one emulate vt100 PF keys with Terminal.app? I need to emulate a
> PF2 and also a vt100's 'clear' key.
>
> The clear usually works by the keypad's 'ENTER'. I can sometimes get a
> PF2 emulation by mucking with the preferences; but I can never get them
> to work at the same time.
Have youe tried 'Stuart.app'? Seems to me it had some of those things...
I never needed them, so I don't really know.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXTStep Swapfile and Swapdisk FAQ: send mail with subject 'send swapfaq'
Other info-via-email available, send mail with subject 'send info'
For information on PPP under NeXTStep <nextppp@listproc.thoughtport.com>
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Delete keys
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 15:26:51 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960209152335.11235I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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On Fri, 9 Feb 1996, Richard L. Bowman wrote:
> I can access my office-based NeXT (black) via modem from home. The problem
> is that the delete keys do not work properly, and their behavior is
> inconsistent from application to application. In normal terminal mode,
> the DEL key appears to do what the NeXT delete key does. In the editor ed,
> the DEL key appears to delete the characters but does not move backwards.
> And so forth...
>
> rbowman@bridgewater.edu
I have a "thought" which might be helpful.
When I was logging in through a modem, I had to use shift-delete to get
the delete key to act the way I expected it to... Apparently this goes
back to some type of 'delete vs backspace' controversy from the early
1800s ;-)
you might want to try that...
or, use PICO instead of 'ed', which never gave me any of these problems,
even when in on the modem (pico comes with the pine package, for those
who don't know)
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXTStep Swapfile and Swapdisk FAQ: send mail with subject 'send swapfaq'
Other info-via-email available, send mail with subject 'send info'
For information on PPP under NeXTStep <nextppp@listproc.thoughtport.com>
From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: 10 Feb 1996 01:28:48 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <4fgscg$ijn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <4etrqi$nnc@newshost.lanl.gov> <4f51ph$ghs@elna.ethz.ch> <4f9fk9$sej@usenet.rpi.edu>
In article <4f9fk9$sej@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes:
> The experience of most people on the omniweb mailing list, including
> me, is that this beta version is fairly robust. There's some web
> pages that it may not display *correctly*, but it does not seem to
> crash much on people. Or at least, they aren't complaining about it
> to the mailing list. If you're having problems like this, be sure
> to let the guys at OmniGroup know about it.
When I downloaded the most recent version, and tried to open it,
it instantaneously opened and shut off repeatedly.
Is there a workaround to this mild bug? ^_^
Lones
PS I am on 3.2.
--
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E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 || of Technology is a Latin affectation
617-253-0914 (voice), -6915 (fax) || with which I strongly disagree.
lones@lones.mit.edu (NeXT mail OK) || Feel free to svbstitvte `u' as desired.
From: Whitehea@Qucdn.QueensU.CA (Steven)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How is the internet changing society today?
Date: 10 Feb 1996 03:08:53 GMT
Organization: Queens University
Message-ID: <4fh285$jd6@knot.queensu.ca>
How Is the Internet Affecting Society Today? How Will it Affect
the Society 10 years From now?
I Am doing a science project on the internet on the question wich
I asked above. I am looking for oppions and stories on how the internet will
affect society what kind of things will be availible in the way of Software
(We already have things like REAL AUDIO and VDO LIVE) I wish to speculate on
things like that but to do this I have to have oppinions, software that is
being develops now and how fast it's been developed. I also was wondering if
anyone knew the estimated population of the Internet and the annual growth of
it.
So PLEASE send me YOUR views, oppions and stories about what you thinks going
to happen.
TTYL
From: Stephen Shiboski <steve@biostat.ucsf.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: 10 Feb 1996 04:09:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <4fh5q9$oeq@agate.berkeley.edu>
Originator: stephen@stat.Berkeley.EDU
>In article <4fgscg$ijn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Lones A Smith
> <lones@lones.mit.edu> writes:
>In article <4f9fk9$sej@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn ><gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes:
>> The experience of most people on the omniweb mailing list, including
>> me, is that this beta version is fairly robust. There's some web
>> pages that it may not display *correctly*, but it does not seem to
>> crash much on people. Or at least, they aren't complaining about it
>> to the mailing list. If you're having problems like this, be sure
>> to let the guys at OmniGroup know about it.
>
>When I downloaded the most recent version, and tried to open it,
>it instantaneously opened and shut off repeatedly.
>Is there a workaround to this mild bug? ^_^
I assume you are not using NS 3.3. Download the free WebObjects
(beta) package from http://www.next.com along with the accompanying
FoundationUserPatch for NS 3.2. The patch will allow you to use OmniWeb (and
other NS applications which require NS 3.3) under NS 3.2. I am currently
using OmniWeb version 2b4 with no problems.
--
Stephen Shiboski <steve@biostat.ucsf.edu>
Division of Biostatistics
University of California, San Francisco
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <doug@thoughtful.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 96 22:26:42 -0700
From: doug@thoughtful.com (Douglas Simons)
Message-ID: <9602100526.AA10352@thoughtful.com>
Subject: Re: Area Code
rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (Robert B. Love ) wrote:
> There is a very handy app/service called Area Code that
> shows the region of the highlighted area code. Is anybody
> updating this for all the changing Area Codes?
As it happens, I looked at the old AreaCode application myself a few
months ago, and noticed that it didn't offer any obvious way to
update its data. My response was to throw together a generalized
replacement application in HyperSense. After a little cleaning up
for public consumption, I've submitted it to the archives. Here's
the info on it:
About ListMaker:
ListMaker is a tool for creating and searching lists of items. It
includes a list of Area Codes and International telephone dialing
codes. This list can be quickly searched by name or number. For
example, enter 716 in the search field, and it will identify Western
New York and Zimbabwe. Or, type "colo" and you will be presented
with the three area codes for Colorado.
ListMaker is also useful for creating other kinds of lists, such as
personal phone lists, to-do lists, idea lists, organization lists,
email lists, lists of your favorite URLs, etc. Lists can be edited
at any time. A button is also provided to sort a list. If there are
other features you'd like to see in this application, let me know (or
add them yourself, if you have HyperSense).
Note on Area Codes / Call for Help:
** The list of Area Codes included with ListMaker was derived from
the one in the old AreaCode application. I've added a few newer area
codes that I know about (such as our new one here in Colorado), but
many other newer area codes are missing. If you know of additions or
corrections to the list, please send them to me so they can be
included in updates for everyone's benefit. Thanks. **
Where to Get It:
To run ListMaker you will need either HyperSense or the
HyperSensePlayer application. Both ListMaker.sense and the
HyperSensePlayer package (including a Free single-user license and
many other useful documents) are available by anonymous ftp in the
submissions directory at next-ftp.peak.org. They should migrate soon
to the HyperSense directory there:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/HyperSense/ListMaker.sense.compressed
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/HyperSense/HyperSensePlayer.pkg.1.00B
14a.NIHS.b.tar
About HyperSense:
HyperSense is Thoughtful Software's powerful multimedia authoring
system for NEXTSTEP. Use HyperSense to quickly create your own
documents and applications, or modify other HyperSense documents such
as ListMaker. The object-based SenseTalk scripting language empowers
documents with fully interactive capabilities through an intuitive
English-like language that is easily mastered. An unlicensed copy of
HyperSense (which may be used in demo mode) can be found at the same
ftp site.
If you do not have ftp access, the HyperSensePlayer and ListMaker are
available on disk directly from Thoughtful Software for $10, to cover
shipping and duplication costs. MasterCard and Visa are accepted.
For more information on HyperSense, HyperSensePlayer, ListMaker.sense
or other HyperSense documents which are available, contact Thoughtful
Software at info@thoughtful.com or 970-221-4596.
Enjoy!!
Doug Simons doug@thoughtful.com
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Terminal.app and PF keys
Date: 10 Feb 1996 00:10:31 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4fgnpn$dgh@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4fdfqi$tmf@netnews.upenn.edu>
anstine@orion.sas.upenn.edu (David R. Anstine) wrote:
> How does one emulate vt100 PF keys with Terminal.app? I need to
> emulate a PF2 and also a vt100's 'clear' key.
>
> The clear usually works by the keypad's 'ENTER'. I can sometimes
> get a PF2 emulation by mucking with the preferences; but I can
> never get them to work at the same time.
You might want to try Stuart.app, a new version of which was just
recently released. Among other places, you can find it at:
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/comm/Stuart_f/
this contains version 2.6.1, in a few different archives (four
single-architecture ones, and one quad-fat one).
It's a shareware program, but the version you download is the whole
thing (it's not a crippled demo version). If it provides the
features you're looking for, send in the shareware fee. I think
it's pretty nice, and I use it all the time instead of Terminal.app.
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From: american@internetMCI.COM (Charles C. Hocker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: App opens and them immediately closes
Date: 10 Feb 1996 16:59:21 GMT
Organization: InternetMCI
Message-ID: <4fiit9$e0q@news.internetmci.com>
Hello,
I am experiencing a problem that I had in the past and
wondering how to solve it. When I open certain apps from user
accounts, the app opens and then immediately closes. I checked the
permissions and the look correct and I do not experience this problem
from the root account though. Outside of deleting the app and
reinstalling it how can I fix this problem?
Charles
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From: american@internetMCI.COM (Charles C. Hocker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Changing Icons for file extensions
Date: 10 Feb 1996 17:04:21 GMT
Organization: InternetMCI
Message-ID: <4fij6l$e31@news.internetmci.com>
Hello,
I recently download an app to produce HTML documents and it
changed my default icon for all of my HTML documents and TXT
documents. How can I change them back to their previous icons.
Thanks,
Charles
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american@aztec.asu.edu Ignorance is Strength
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From: strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Raw audio-CD data: how to grab w/NS/Intel?
Date: 10 Feb 1996 19:27:56 GMT
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Message-ID: <STREBEL2.96Feb10202756@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de>
References: <4f9klp$6vc@news.duke.edu> <DMILtE.Dsr@isltd.insignia.com>
In-reply-to: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk's message of Fri, 9 Feb 1996
15:32:02 GMT
In article <DMILtE.Dsr@isltd.insignia.com> ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk writes:
What would be really cool would be if NeXT mod'd the audio filesystem to
apear as a number of snd files! Does anyone have documentation on
writing filesystems?
Hi,
no there is no real doc (sad enough), but the header files in bsd/sys/v*.h
give you some glance, kernserv/loadable_fs.h gives some more info.
in principle, you have to create a loadable module and make it enter
an entry in vfssw. afterwards you can mount it using the mount call
(not standard mount). sync is called automatically every few seconds.
workspace uses the utils in /usr/filesystems/*, so an extension of
workspaces notion of files would be trivial.
BUT, i don't know of any documentation about the use of this vfs version,
NeXT uses, so I don't know of any successful implementation of even the
simplest possible filesystem for nextstep.
And I would appreciate an email, if someone happens to have any
information about the vnode routines to implement for a NeXT filesystem.
Perhaps it's enough, to change some of the vnode routines from *BSD,
but they use different switch tables, so I doubt it.
Ciao, Stephan
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Tel: +49 551 201 1 454
From: lusty@aimnet.com (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: App opens and them immediately closes
Date: 10 Feb 1996 15:15:08 -0800
Organization: Aimnet Corp.
Message-ID: <4fj8ts$3b1@aimnet.aimnet.com>
References: <4fiit9$e0q@news.internetmci.com>
In article <4fiit9$e0q@news.internetmci.com>,
Charles C. Hocker <american@internetMCI.COM> wrote:
>Hello,
> I am experiencing a problem that I had in the past and
>wondering how to solve it. When I open certain apps from user
>accounts, the app opens and then immediately closes. I checked the
>permissions and the look correct and I do not experience this problem
>from the root account though. Outside of deleting the app and
>reinstalling it how can I fix this problem?
If it works ok with root, it probably is a permissions problem. Did
you look at all the files inside the app wrapper? Probable fix:
log in as root (or as the owner of the app in question), select the
app in the File Viewer, open the Access Control inspector (cmd-4),
click the "also apply to files inside selection" box, check the "read"
access box in all 3 columns, then click OK.
Lusty
From: lusty@aimnet.com (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Changing Icons for file extensions
Date: 10 Feb 1996 15:17:38 -0800
Organization: Aimnet Corp.
Message-ID: <4fj92i$3fl@aimnet.aimnet.com>
References: <4fij6l$e31@news.internetmci.com>
In article <4fij6l$e31@news.internetmci.com>,
Charles C. Hocker <american@internetMCI.COM> wrote:
>Hello,
> I recently download an app to produce HTML documents and it
>changed my default icon for all of my HTML documents and TXT
>documents. How can I change them back to their previous icons.
Select one of the documents in question and open the Tools inspector
(cmd-3). Follow the directions on it.
Lusty, in an exceptionally helpful mood
From: frank@pinguin.bb.bawue.de (Frank Sautter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is there project planning software?
Date: 10 Feb 1996 23:47:36 GMT
Organization: private site
Message-ID: <4fjaqo$b37@pinguin.bb.bawue.de>
References: <4f53g1$48q@slider.bme.ri.ccf.org>
In <4f53g1$48q@slider.bme.ri.ccf.org> vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org wrote:
> I'm feeling the need to get my hands on some project planning software. I
know
> there is stuff like Project Manager for Windows, but I'd like to use
something
> on my NeXT. I need to develop timelines and critical path plots.
Anything
> like that available for black hardware?
Give TaskMaster from Lighthouse a try!
--
_____________________________________________________________________
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From: Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: NEXTSTEP OOUI remote on MAC OS?
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 19:05:13 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University- Network Services
Message-ID: <311D40C9.6FC2@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone know if there's a way to do the NEXTSTEP OOUI remotely on a
MAC OS box? Sort of like an X Window session- except showing the NS
user interface with control of the NS box.
This could be a prodct similar to Timbuktu Pro. Also, is there ANY
solution to get AppleTalk on NS currently?
Please email and post
Thanks,
Eric
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Apple SuperDrive floppy
Message-ID: <RDL.96Feb10200731@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 01:07:31 GMT
Has anyone hooked up Apple's SCSI floppy to a NS system? Any
comments? I can't stand having to do "Check for Disks" everytime
I insert a floppy.
Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: uucp addresses
In-Reply-To: Dmichael@rumah.rumah.pc.my's message of 31 Jan 1996 09:17:36 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.96Feb10201012@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4enc3g$cbd@jaring.my>
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 01:10:12 GMT
Get GNU Taylor UUCP and sendmail 8.7.3. You can set them up to
use domain style addresses over a UUCP transport.
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
In article <4enc3g$cbd@jaring.my> Dmichael@rumah.rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) writes:
Xref: world comp.sys.next.software:24728
Path: world!news.mtholyoke.edu!uhog.mit.edu!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!jaring.my!usenet
From: Dmichael@rumah.rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 31 Jan 1996 09:17:36 GMT
Organization: Unconfigured
Lines: 8
NNTP-Posting-Host: j4.brf7.jaring.my
X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.81)
I am using a dial up line to a local internet service provider. Mail is sent
by uucp. In order for my NS to understand the address of outgoing mail, I
must use UUCP format since it only knows about one host. For example, to send
to abc@xxx.edu through the local myhost, I use: myhost!xxx.edu!abc
Can anybody tell me how to config so I can use the normal form and have
everything sent through myhost? I know there's some translation stuff, but I
don't understand it.
From: Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Application Memory handling in NS
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 19:17:00 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University- Network Services
Message-ID: <311D438C.5EA@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does NEXTSTEP allow for minimum and maximum memory chunks that a program
can take up? Is it similar to the way the MAC OS allows you to
configure the memory chunks per application? If so, how is it done?
Thanks,
Eric
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From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb - when can we expect to see v2.0?
Date: 11 Feb 1996 02:42:52 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4hqhum.3f3.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <4etbvl$lnl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <4etrqi$nnc@newshost.lanl.gov> <4f65hp$b38@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
On 5 Feb 1996 23:57:45 GMT, Ruei-wun Tu <rueiwun@gas.uug.arizona.edu> wrote:
> If you saw a highlighted text said "xxx.jpg" or whatever you know it's a
> picture, hold on Command key and click left button of your mouse. OmniWeb
> will download that image file into the download directory you set in your
> Preference.
How do you make it save downloaded files (non-picture files) into the
download dir instead of the temporary dir? How do you make it prompt you
for a save name with the NS save panel? I've tried setting a download dir
and turning on the save panel preference and downloaded files still go into
the temporary dir, never prompting for a filename. Even files downloaded
from an FTP URL go into the temp dir, not the download dir (and, being in
the temp dir, are deleted when I quit the app).
How do you make the app launch like a normal app? When I launch the app the
OmniWeb windows become unfocused and rearmost then the app I was using
before becomes focused again. Also, hide on autolaunch doesn't seem to work
even with that hide on autolaunch preference turned on (the app doesn't
hide, the windows act as I described).
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 8 Feb 1996 16:49:25 GMT
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <4fd9il$ao@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
<4f41a8$j2a@pentagon.io.com> <4f4a6t$sns@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
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In <4f4a6t$sns@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Lawson English wrote:
> Terry Wilcox <terry@io.com> wrote:
> : In article <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>,
> : Lawson English <english@primenet.com> wrote:
> : >
> : >Excuse?
> : >
> : >OpenStep isn't as good as OpenDoc.
> : >
> : >In fact, it is rather lame, compared to OpenDoc.
>
> : It's always nice to see someone backing up their opinions with a good
> : argument.
>
> Here's a little hint to you:
>
> Using OpenStep, please explain how to embed the equivalent of an OpenDoc
> part inside *another* OpenDOc part and than embed that inside yet
*another*
> one.
>
> Now keep doing it for 3 or more times.
>
> Now activate the innermost part and edit the content. Now save the three
> inner-most parts to disk.
You forgot the number of reboots of your Mac in the meantime.
My Next runs stable for months, whereas my customers tell me that
they push reset almost once an hour. What does OpenDoc give
to me, if the base OS and network functionality is even worse than
good old Messy-DOS? And getting worser with each new release!
> I'm glad to see someone contributing to the intelligence of the thread...
At least you seem to have enough of it.
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work? // Navigator - IT Consulting & System administration
mail? // mow@navigator.de
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Pier to Pier
In-Reply-To: stewartj@probe.co.uk's message of Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:24:45 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.96Feb11000122@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <DMGIKL.DJA@news.zippo.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 05:01:22 GMT
BTW - I think you mean Peer to Peer...
Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Pier to Pier
In-Reply-To: stewartj@probe.co.uk's message of Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:24:45 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.96Feb11000039@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <DMGIKL.DJA@news.zippo.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 05:00:39 GMT
Try Samba. You can also use PC-NFS, Novell, TCP-IP (ftp),
sneakernet (floppy), etc...
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
In article <DMGIKL.DJA@news.zippo.com> stewartj@probe.co.uk (James Stewart) writes:
I need to copy files from a machine using nextstep to one using
standard dos / windows. How is this done ? I have heard of a system
called Pier to Pier connection but don't know any details. If anyone
has any further info I would me most gratefull if you could let me
know.
Cheers
James.....
From: Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.windows.ms
Subject: NetBEUI Client for NEXTSTEP needed!
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 01:30:59 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University- Network Services
Message-ID: <311D9B33.7878@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
How can I interact with Windoze 95 and OS/2 servers on a NetBEUI/NetBIOS
network? Is there any client products anyone's aware of?
Shareware/freeware would be preferable!
Thanks alot!
Eric
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From: Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DNS software for NS?
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 01:39:21 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University- Network User Services
Message-ID: <311D9D29.6A38@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
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I have so many questions recently...
What is the best shareware/freeware DNS software implementation for
NEXTSTEP?
Eric
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From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Changing Icons for file extensions
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 09:15:06 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Feb11.091506.18437@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4fj92i$3fl@aimnet.aimnet.com>
In article <4fj92i$3fl@aimnet.aimnet.com> lusty@aimnet.com (Lusty Wench)
writes:
> In article <4fij6l$e31@news.internetmci.com>,
> Charles C. Hocker <american@internetMCI.COM> wrote:
> >Hello,
> > I recently download an app to produce HTML documents and it
> >changed my default icon for all of my HTML documents and TXT
> >documents. How can I change them back to their previous icons.
>
> Select one of the documents in question and open the Tools inspector
> (cmd-3). Follow the directions on it.
This won't work; it will just change the default tool, not the icon.
NeXT provide no means of selecting the icon used for an extension. Your
real options are:
- delete the app;
- put it elsewhere in the search path.
If you don't want the appto be launchable by double clicking on a
document, it doesn't have to be in the serach path (which includes
/LocalApps, ~/Apps, /NextApps, etc).
Paul
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From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WEB software: Anyone compiled LYNX for NeXTStep?
Date: 11 Feb 1996 19:49:45 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4flh8p$gsi@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Just wondering, since I usually remotely access my NeXT over the modem,
and need a command line interface with the web. Lynx works great on athena
here at MIT.
Thanks, Lones
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From: Bandit@skypoint.com (infocide)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Do high school students apply for Student package?
Date: 11 Feb 1996 20:22:00 GMT
Organization: none
Message-ID: <4flj58$aq8@stratus.skypoint.net>
I'd like to know if being a high school student i am applicable
for the student package?
From: Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: NetBEUI Client for NEXTSTEP needed!
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 15:55:32 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University- Network User Services
Message-ID: <311E65D4.1A33@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <311D9B33.7878@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4fl56t$pdr@wavefront.wavefront.com>
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Pohl Longsine wrote:
> Why not merely make the DOS-lineage machines speak TCP/IP? They can handle
> multiple protocol stacks, can't they?
> pohl@screaming.org
> http://mmm.screaming.org/
Yes they can, however I wish to use the native NetBeui/NetBIOS. I would
like to find some client for these services natively on NS.
Eric
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: WEB software: Anyone compiled LYNX for NeXTStep?
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (system PRIVILEGED account)
Message-ID: <DMMsKK.31B@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:48:20 GMT
References: <4flh8p$gsi@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4flh8p$gsi@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
Lones A Smith <lasmith@athena.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>Just wondering, since I usually remotely access my NeXT over the modem,
>and need a command line interface with the web. Lynx works great on athena
>here at MIT.
>
I got mine, I believe, from next-ftp.peak.org; it's in binaries/wide-area-info
I think.
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From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 11 Feb 1996 14:51:45 -0800
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Message-ID: <jcr.824078842@idiom.com>
References: <4f5fbm$r7q@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4f5lf0$4qe@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <4f61kn$egk@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <jcr.823602543@idiom.com> <4f7ts5$al2@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
In comp.sys.next.advocacy you write:
>John C. Randolph <jcr@idiom.com> wrote:
>: I wish Apple *had* grokked objects back in '80. The Mac would have been
>: a far more useful platform if they had.
>Let me get this straight:
>You're saying that a Macintosh window is NOT an object?
That is exactly what I am saying. A Macintosh window is a data structure,
to be precise, a Pascal Record. The Mac had no concept of messaging a
window, of inheritance from a window class or prototype, of an abstraction
of a "screen region" from which Windows and menus are derived, in fact,
the whole GUI was done procedurally.
GUI's can be implemented without any concept of Object-oriented programming.
The Macintosh, and the first three major revs of Microsoft windows are
examples of this. Microsoft may not grok objects yet, but I haven't been
forced to look at a windows system for several years.
-jcr
From: kwong@plato.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mif -> rtf
Date: 12 Feb 1996 00:41:31 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Message-ID: <4fm2br$hs@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
I am user of i386/Frame 3.2 and looking for a converter from frame or mif to
rtf format.
Anyone know the existing tools?
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From: marc@accessone.com(Marc Salvatori)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: App opens and them immediately closes
Date: 12 Feb 1996 01:53:51 GMT
Organization: AccessOne
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References: <4fiit9$e0q@news.internetmci.com>
In <4fiit9$e0q@news.internetmci.com> Charles C. Hocker wrote:
> I am experiencing a problem that I had in the past and
> wondering how to solve it. When I open certain apps from user
> accounts, the app opens and then immediately closes. I checked the
> permissions and the look correct and I do not experience this problem
> from the root account though. Outside of deleting the app and
> reinstalling it how can I fix this problem?
Whenever I experience this, it is almost always because the defaults are
corrupt. Try using Howard Ship's defJam to delete the defaults for the
given user.
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From: df@watershed.com (Dirk Fromhein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Job Posting- Technical QA Positions
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 21:30:16 -400
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A large financial corporation in the center of Boston is looking for QA
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Extensive knowlege of SQL and Unix scripting (sh/ksh shell) required.
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Work with some of the best people in the industry.
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From: swiet@hops.cs.jhu.edu (Alex Swietlicki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Date: 12 Feb 1996 03:21:37 GMT
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department
Message-ID: <slrn4htci1.hur.swiet@hops.cs.jhu.edu>
References: <4e84c1$m0n@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> <4f2h1e$jo9@pub02.va.pubnix.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960204125419.17765B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> <4f9akj$2co@gaea.titan.org> <4fdr58$ojc@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> <4ffs9p$m5f@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <311C5722.76AB@arsenal.com> <4fj4qk$ebp@emerald.oz.net>
On 10 Feb 1996 22:05:08 GMT, Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com> wrote:
|
| OmniWeb has never crashed NEXTSTEP since I've been using it.
Really? You must be quitting and restarting it every 2 minutes.
See HD. See swapfile. See OW2.0. See swapfile grow. See HD fill. BAM!
OmniWeb2.0 is also S-L-O-W. HTML -> SGML -> RTF. Ugh. Pure pain on a slab.
There's no reason a page which takes 3-5 seconds to retrieve over 14.4 modem
should take 15-20 seconds to render.
There's no reason Mosaic runing under X11R5/MouseX should be much faster
than a native NS app.
And there's _certainly_ no reason Netscape2 *remote displayed* over
14.4 modem to X11R5/MouseX should be faster at scrolling complex pages
than OmniWeb2.
Check out http://www.browserwatch.com. Click around. Find a table.
Wait over 2 minutes for OW2 to render it. Now try to scroll. Ouch.
Something is very wrong.
OmniWeb2 better than Netscape2? Who are they trying to kid? Themselves?
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mif -> rtf
Date: 12 Feb 1996 03:46:08 GMT
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References: <4fm2br$hs@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
In <4fm2br$hs@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Kai S. Wong wrote:
> I am user of i386/Frame 3.2 and looking for a converter from frame or mif
to
> rtf format.
> Anyone know the existing tools?
If know there's a mif2rtf.pl executable, I have it, but I don't think it's
compiled or it's faulty compilation for m68k. There's a frame ftp site
somewhere that has it.
If someone has successfully compiled this perl script for m68k I'd be quite
interested....
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Sound preference enhancements
Message-ID: <RDL.96Feb11225922@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 03:59:22 GMT
I'd like to see the current Sound.preferences split into three separate
modules: Speaker.preferences, Microphone.preferences, and AudioCD.preferences.
The audio CD preferences allows you to adjust the volume of music/audio CDs and
allows you to specify how much (if any) can be heard through the speakers.
There are times I want to listen via my headphones and other times through the
speakers. NEXTSTEP gives me very little if any control over this.
The speaker preferences would still include System Beep and Voice Alerts.
The microphone would be split out for modularity.
Ideas?
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: App opens and them immediately closes
In-Reply-To: lusty@aimnet.com's message of 10 Feb 1996 15:15:08 -0800
Message-ID: <RDL.96Feb11230206@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4fiit9$e0q@news.internetmci.com> <4fj8ts$3b1@aimnet.aimnet.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 04:02:06 GMT
Look at /usr/adm/messages and /tmp/console.log for clues as to what's going on.
It's like a permission/ownership problem. Also, if it's on a NFS filesystem,
check the export options.
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
In article <4fj8ts$3b1@aimnet.aimnet.com> lusty@aimnet.com (Lusty Wench) writes:
If it works ok with root, it probably is a permissions problem. Did
you look at all the files inside the app wrapper? Probable fix:
log in as root (or as the owner of the app in question), select the
app in the File Viewer, open the Access Control inspector (cmd-4),
click the "also apply to files inside selection" box, check the "read"
access box in all 3 columns, then click OK.
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 12 Feb 1996 05:15:17 GMT
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From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Date: 11 Feb 1996 23:29:01 -0700
Organization: My Cube
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References: <4e84c1$m0n@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> <4f2h1e$jo9@pub02.va.pubnix.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960204125419.17765B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> <4f9akj$2co@gaea.titan.org> <4fdr58$ojc@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> <4ffs9p$m5f@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <311C5722.76AB@arsenal.com> <4fj4qk$ebp@emerald.oz.net> <slrn4htci1.hur.swiet@hops.cs.jhu.edu>
swiet@hops.cs.jhu.edu (Alex Swietlicki) wrote:
>On 10 Feb 1996 22:05:08 GMT, Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com> wrote:
>|
>| OmniWeb has never crashed NEXTSTEP since I've been using it.
>
>Really? You must be quitting and restarting it every 2 minutes.
>See HD. See swapfile. See OW2.0. See swapfile grow. See HD fill. BAM!
I have never had this problem, but I have lotsa drive space.
>OmniWeb2.0 is also S-L-O-W. HTML -> SGML -> RTF. Ugh. Pure pain on a
slab.
>
>There's no reason a page which takes 3-5 seconds to retrieve over 14.4 modem
>should take 15-20 seconds to render.
>
>There's no reason Mosaic runing under X11R5/MouseX should be much faster
>than a native NS app.
Even worse: I have a Daydream attached, Netscape 2.0 beta kicks butt in
terms of speed. It literally flies compared to Omniweb.
>And there's _certainly_ no reason Netscape2 *remote displayed* over
>14.4 modem to X11R5/MouseX should be faster at scrolling complex pages
>than OmniWeb2.
>
>Check out http://www.browserwatch.com. Click around. Find a table.
>Wait over 2 minutes for OW2 to render it. Now try to scroll. Ouch.
>
>Something is very wrong.
I still think it can be faster, but it is beta, and besides, I would rather
work in an NS environment than MacOS...
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From: don@misckit.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Date: 12 Feb 1996 07:13:52 GMT
Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <4fmpbg$d0p@news.xmission.com>
References: <4e84c1$m0n@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> <4f2h1e$jo9@pub02.va.pubnix.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960204125419.17765B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> <4f9akj$2co@gaea.titan.org> <4fdr58$ojc@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> <4ffs9p$m5f@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <311C5722.76AB@arsenal.com> <4fj4qk$ebp@emerald.oz.net> <slrn4htci1.hur.swiet@hops.cs.jhu.edu>
swiet@hops.cs.jhu.edu (Alex Swietlicki) wrote:
On 10 Feb 1996 22:05:08 GMT, Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com> wrote:
>
> OmniWeb has never crashed NEXTSTEP since I've been using it.
Well, I've had it panic my machine recently. I guess it really
dislikes pages that have .eps graphics on them. Imagine, an NS app
that can't handle .eps! It would seem they'd almost have to *try*
to put in a bug like that... :-)
Note: I like OW 2.0 for a lot of reasons. But it isn't perfect
yet. Don't take this as a damning flame, because I certainly don't
mean it that way.
I do wish we could set a limit on the cache size, in bytes, so that
it wouldn't make my swapfile grow to such immense proportions. When
a *web* *browser* is so RAM hungry that it can take a 48M machine
to its knees, you know there is something amiss somewhere...
Of course it is a beta, so perhaps the final version will be more
realistic in both speed and RAM requirements. I'll wait until then
to pass final decision. After all, I really like the GUI and I
like the way the pages look once they are rendered. Once the minor
glitches are removed, it will be a very good app, IMHO!
--
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From: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Easter egg on Configure.app
Date: 12 Feb 1996 08:27:09 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <4fmtkt$j1i@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <4fe0m7$8bk@news.mcl.bdm.com>
Hi net!
Jeff Franco wrote:
> How do you set off the easter egg on the info panel in Configure.app?
Alt-Command-click on the app icon.
ys
Alexander Wilkie
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From: alfred@ca-risc.co.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Electronic Filing System
Date: 12 Feb 1996 10:19:36 GMT
Organization: EUnet EDV DienstleistungsgesmbH, Wien
Message-ID: <4fn47o$bhi@news.Austria.EU.net>
Keywords: Filing, OCR, Scanning
Howdy!
Looking at the chaos in my home office with horror, I wonder whether I should
not invest in some electronic filing technology.
I've got a bunch of NeXT Stations, a Pentium, lots of HD, an OD (the old one
from SONY, but still working well) and a black scanner (HSD, v e r y slow).
I've got some scanning software (Metro) but I really never used it much.
I guess what I am lacking is OCR software, a sheet feeder (probably a new
scanner straight away) and a filing system.
Has anyone good experience in doing the job? What would I need, how do I have
to set it up? I am a power user who can, but does not necessarily want to,
program. Plus, fiddling around with quirky set ups ain't my favorite past time.
Should I try anyway.
Any (time saving) help is greatly appreciated (tell what I can get you from
either Zurich, Vienna, Prague or London).
Thanks a lot
Alfred
--
================================
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Risk Manager that you can win the game. Communism
Creditanstalt-Bankverein is based on the assumption that you can
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: NetBEUI Client for NEXTSTEP needed!
Message-ID: <DMnyvp.88x@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <311D9B33.7878@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:02:12 GMT
In article <311D9B33.7878@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Eric Dubiel
<eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> writes:
> How can I interact with Windoze 95 and OS/2 servers on a
NetBEUI/NetBIOS
> network? Is there any client products anyone's aware of?
> Shareware/freeware would be preferable!
>
A few years back (before I was involved) our network experts looked into
adding NetBEUI support to SoftPC. The conclusion was that it was not
possible without additional hooks into the OS (not that that has stoped
us in the past!). NeXT did not provided the necessary low level access
to do this.
Recently things might have changed, or could have changed if NeXT
released the 4.0 OS upgrade (exact details are unclear here). The
Berkley Packet Filter (BPF) would provide the necessary low level hooks,
and these are needed for PPP. It's a question of how much of BPF is
implemented - all of it, or just the PPP bits. This would make netBEUI
posible.
I don't know the answer to this...
However I'd concur with the earlier poster that making PC's talk TcpIp
is trivialy easy (as PC things go!). Ditch MS's proprietry format, and
start talking to the real world.
Ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: Windows NT on Black Hardware (No flaming Please...)
Message-ID: <DMnz3q.8K7@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <4ffsg6$rd7@news.its.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 13:07:00 GMT
In article <4ffsg6$rd7@news.its.com> chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
writes:
> Q: Does Windows NT run on any m68k machine?
> A: No.
And never will (even if 68K was a happening architecture these days).
NT is heavily endian dependant. It runs only on little endian machines,
and cannot (practically) be converted to run on big endian
architectures.
Black users may again sleep easy knowing they are beyond the reach of
the evil empire!
Ian
From: jragosta@dca.net (Joe Ragosta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 08:55:16 -0500
Organization: Graver Chemical
Message-ID: <jragosta-1202960855160001@ppp-1007.dca.net>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4f41a8$j2a@pentagon.io.com> <4f4a6t$sns@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4fd9il$ao@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com>
In article <4fd9il$ao@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com>, mow@navigator.de
(Markus Wenzel) wrote:
> You forgot the number of reboots of your Mac in the meantime.
> My Next runs stable for months, whereas my customers tell me that
> they push reset almost once an hour. What does OpenDoc give
> to me, if the base OS and network functionality is even worse than
> good old Messy-DOS? And getting worser with each new release!
>
> --
> who? // Dipl.-Phys. Markus Wenzel
> work? // Navigator - IT Consulting & System administration
> mail? // mow@navigator.de
> more? // http://www.neworbit.de/navigator/
Sorry, but if you're the consultant responsible for these computers, you
probably don't want to be announcing this to the world. Any who sets up
computers that crash every hour is clearly incompetent--whether it's
MacOS, Windows, Next, OS/2, UNIX or whatever. There is no excuse for this.
Any operating system is capable of far better.
--
Regards, Joe Ragosta
Copyright Joseph M. Ragosta, 1996. Non-exclusive, royalty free license to distribute this post granted to any service provider except Microsoft. By posting this, Microsoft agrees to pay $1,000 per posting.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Windows NT on Black Hardware (No flaming Please...)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 17:11:55 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960212171021.27124D-100000@hphalle7a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
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On Mon, 12 Feb 1996 ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk wrote:
> NT is heavily endian dependant. It runs only on little endian machines,
> and cannot (practically) be converted to run on big endian
> architectures.
Tell me if I'm wrong:
Isn't Intel Little-Endian? Isn't DEC-Alpha Big-Endian? Doesn't Windows NT
run on both architectures?
Regards,
Boerny.
--
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scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: App opens and them immediately closes
Date: 12 Feb 1996 16:54:50 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <4fnrcq$j1l@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <4fiit9$e0q@news.internetmci.com>? <4fl9ld$pnn@main.ipf.net>
In-Reply-To: <4fl9ld$pnn@main.ipf.net>
On 02/11/96, Jens Kleemann wrote:
>Check for the defaults-Database of that app. Get DefJam.app and check
>for inconsistencies in the database. Try it as root, then as the
user.
>Maybe that will help.
OK, where can I get DefJam? I have looked at next-peak.org.
Randy
>
>
>
--
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Geography, The Ohio State University
1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall
Columbus OH 43210-1361
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From: wongj@alum01.its.rpi.edu (Jasper Y. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Chinese/Japanese NS?
Date: 12 Feb 1996 12:09:27 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Message-ID: <4fnaln$oul@usenet.rpi.edu>
Are there softwares available which allow for chinese/japanese
processing? I heard there exists NS for Japanese but I don't
know where can I purchase one and how compatible is it with
existing softwares. Please email me if you know some info
regarding chinese/japanese processing softwares, thanks in
advance.
Jasper
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From: Lorenzo Stella <stella@paros.caspur.it>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help for X11 for NeXT
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 11:51:13 +0100
Organization: CASPUR Consortium for the Supercomputing Applications
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960212113919.7794A-100000@paros.caspur.it>
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Dear netters,
I am not very familiar with Unix, and, as my first experience, I have to=20
fight with a NeXTstation. My problem now is to install X11R6, to be able t=
o
use my NeXTStation as a graphic terminal to connect to other computers.
Has anyone of you compiled X11R6 for NeXT? Up to now I have been able
to find on the net only an old X11R5 for monochromatic monitors.
I would be deeply grateful if you could tell me where I can find a
precompiled version of X11R6 for NeXT, or otherwise what should I do to
compile it on my system (if it is possible).
I thank you in advance for your help. Please, if possible, reply by mail
to the address below, since I can=A9t usually check these newsgroups. I
will post a summary of the answers I receive.
Lorenzo
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Lorenzo Stella
University of Rome "La Sapienza"
Department of Biochemical Sciences
STELLA2@VAXROM.ROMA1.INFN.IT
Tel.:++39-6-49910957
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From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: Windows NT on Black Hardware (No flaming Please...)
Message-ID: <DMoF0E.2Mo@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960212171021.27124D-100000@hphalle7a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 18:50:37 GMT
In article
<Pine.HPP.3.91.960212171021.27124D-100000@hphalle7a.informatik.tu-muench
en.de> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:
> On Mon, 12 Feb 1996 ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk wrote:
>
> > NT is heavily endian dependant. It runs only on little endian
machines,
>
> Tell me if I'm wrong:
>
> Isn't Intel Little-Endian? Isn't DEC-Alpha Big-Endian? Doesn't Windows
NT
> run on both architectures?
>
Alpha is little-endian
Ian
From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Windows NT on Black Hardware (No flaming Please...)
Date: 12 Feb 1996 19:05:37 GMT
Organization: ALI
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4fo321$5mf@cetus.ali.bc.ca>
References: <4ffsg6$rd7@news.its.com> <DMnz3q.8K7@isltd.insignia.com>
<Pine.HPP.3.91.960212171021.27124D-100000@hphalle7a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Keywords: Windows-NT endian
In comp.sys.next.software Bernhard Scholz wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Feb 1996 ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk wrote:
>
> > NT is heavily endian dependant. It runs only on little endian machines,
> > and cannot (practically) be converted to run on big endian
> > architectures.
>
> Tell me if I'm wrong:
>
> Isn't Intel Little-Endian? Isn't DEC-Alpha Big-Endian? Doesn't Windows NT
> run on both architectures?
Alpha is bi-endian. In order to run NT the boot code has to issue the
special
hardware instruction to switch the CPU into little-endian mode. I expect
that this
may become a common feature on new chips from all currently big-endian
vendors.
--
Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca
ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317
Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468
"I used to feel like I was a flea on the back of a Tyrannosaurus
Rex. Now I feel I might be a small yapping poodle on the back
of a Tyrannosaurus Rex."
- Phil Zimmerman, on releasing "Pretty Good Privacy" (PGP)
From: danders@carn3.alleg.edu (David Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: statistical software
Date: 12 Feb 1996 21:16:28 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College
Message-ID: <4foanc$aej@speering.alleg.edu>
You may want to look at the README file for StatTools to see if it meets
your needs. It is not as complete as SPSS or SAS but it does provide the
basic statistical procedure that most of us use.
You can find it at ftp.alleg.edu. The path is
pub/Faculty/Multidiscipliary/StatisticsTools/.
David Anderson
Allegheny College
Meadville, PA 16335
danders@alleg.edu
From: gamshad@frog.tcs.com (Mohsen Gamshad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sound on Next
Date: 12 Feb 1996 16:53:25 -0800
Organization: TCSI
Message-ID: <4fone5$8t@frog.tcs.com>
Hi, I need to get some audio files on to a Next work
station to test some audio routines. Any ideas as to
any ftp sites that have some audio samples for Next or
any other method of loading audio files on a Next station.
I am looking for files sampled at 48 kHz rate.
If you have any information please email me.
Thanks in advance.
Mohsen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jgloede@interpc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: App opens and them immediately closes
Message-ID: <DMouCD.5vu@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
References: <4fiit9$e0q@news.internetmci.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 00:21:48 GMT
american@internetMCI.COM (Charles C. Hocker) writes:
> When I open certain apps from user
> accounts, the app opens and then immediately closes. I checked the
> permissions and the look correct and I do not experience this
problem
> from the root account though. Outside of deleting the app and
> reinstalling it how can I fix this problem?
>
Two possible reasons:
1. problems with the languages;
try changing the order of the languages in the Preferences
2. problems with the user defaults database
(e.g. NULL string, etc.)
delete the corresponding default entries for this application
(see man dremove)
so long,
jens ch. gloede
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From: Alex Chan <chan@cs.unt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Chinese/Japanese NS?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:53:05 -0600
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of North Texas
Message-ID: <31201931.41B1@cs.unt.edu>
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To: "Jasper Y. Wong" <wongj@alum01.its.rpi.edu>
Jasper Y. Wong wrote:
>
> Are there softwares available which allow for chinese/japanese
> processing? I heard there exists NS for Japanese but I don't
> know where can I purchase one and how compatible is it with
> existing softwares. Please email me if you know some info
> regarding chinese/japanese processing softwares, thanks in
> advance.
>
If you are looking for freeware, you can go to
ftp://ftp.edu.tw/NeXT/Chinese/
There is a edit.app clone that support several input method, a Chinese
version of the newsreader Alexandra, a KaiSu font and several document
to tell you how to set up Chinese fonts on several applications.
If you are looking for commerical software, I remember there is a demo
screen shoot a complete Chinese interface for NS in the NS3.3
3rd party demo CD. I think it is written by a Taiwan Software company. I
don't know how well it work though. You may take a look at that.
Hope it helps
--
Alex Chan
Ascii-EMail: chan@cs.unt.edu || UNT PO Box #7848 || Powered
NeXTMail: chan@jove.unt.edu || Denton TX 76203 || by
|| NeXTSTEP
From: Alex Chan <chan@cs.unt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Chinese/Japanese NS?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:53:47 -0600
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of North Texas
Message-ID: <3120195B.5437@cs.unt.edu>
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To: "Jasper Y. Wong" <wongj@alum01.its.rpi.edu>
Jasper Y. Wong wrote:
>
> Are there softwares available which allow for chinese/japanese
> processing? I heard there exists NS for Japanese but I don't
> know where can I purchase one and how compatible is it with
> existing softwares. Please email me if you know some info
> regarding chinese/japanese processing softwares, thanks in
> advance.
>
If you are looking for freeware, you can go to
ftp://ftp.edu.tw/NeXT/Chinese/
There is a edit.app clone that support several input method, a Chinese
version of the newsreader Alexandra, a KaiSu font and several document
to tell you how to set up Chinese fonts on several applications.
If you are looking for commerical software, I remember there is a demo
screen shoot a complete Chinese interface for NS in the NS3.3
3rd party demo CD. I think it is written by a Taiwan Software company. I
don't know how well it work though. You may take a look at that.
Hope it helps
--
Alex Chan
Ascii-EMail: chan@cs.unt.edu || UNT PO Box #7848 || Powered
NeXTMail: chan@jove.unt.edu || Denton TX 76203 || by
|| NeXTSTEP
From: ttruong@phoenix.net (Tuan Truong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Date: 13 Feb 1996 06:12:06 GMT
Message-ID: <4fpa3m$buo@gryphon.phoenix.net>
References: <4e84c1$m0n@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> <4f2h1e$jo9@pub02.va.pubnix.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960204125419.17765B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> <4f9akj$2co@gaea.titan.org> <4fdr58$ojc@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> <4ffs9p$m5f@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <311C5722.76AB@arsenal.com> <4fj4qk$ebp@emerald.oz.net> <slrn4htci1.hur.swiet@hops.cs.jhu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <slrn4htci1.hur.swiet@hops.cs.jhu.edu>
On 02/11/96 in the group comp.sys.next.advocacy you wrote:
| On 10 Feb 1996 22:05:08 GMT, Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com> wrote:
| |
| | OmniWeb has never crashed NEXTSTEP since I've been using it.
|
| Really? You must be quitting and restarting it every 2 minutes.
| See HD. See swapfile. See OW2.0. See swapfile grow. See HD
| fill. BAM!
|
| OmniWeb2.0 is also S-L-O-W. HTML -> SGML -> RTF. Ugh. Pure pain
| on a slab.
|
| There's no reason a page which takes 3-5 seconds to retrieve over
| 14.4 modem should take 15-20 seconds to render.
|
OmniWeb is going to be slow on NeXT hardware. I've been ready to throw
my Mac IIcx at work out the window for about 2 years now. I'm tempted
to switch to a pentium just so I could use MS Office in a realtively
quick manner. On my Bifrost built P120, the rendering times are 5
seconds or less, at least for pages that take 1 to 2 seconds to
download.
Betas 1 to 3 did pretty well in regards to swapfile growth, (rarely
had any), but beta 4 seems to be worse for my machine, (happens a bit
with 2 or more browsers open.) Crashes about as often as Netscape 2.0
betas.
| There's no reason Mosaic runing under X11R5/MouseX should be much
| faster than a native NS app.
|
| And there's _certainly_ no reason Netscape2 *remote displayed* over
| 14.4 modem to X11R5/MouseX should be faster at scrolling complex
| pages than OmniWeb2.
|
Don't know about this. Certianly tell Omnigroup of the speed problems
though.
Which version of Mosaic are you using? I'd like to find one that
supports tables, frames, Netscape features, etc.
| Check out http://www.browserwatch.com. Click around. Find a
| table. Wait over 2 minutes for OW2 to render it. Now try to
| scroll. Ouch.
|
I tried it. I have a 28.8 connection and the render times were about
20 to 30 seconds. Scrolling the large tables was slow, but man P120
probably does it 3 times faster than a NSTC would do it. Rendering
times is probably 4 to 5 times faster.
| Something is very wrong.
|
Beta software?
The slowness seems to be from tables, or maybe tables within frames.
I'll check it out on SGI Netscape 2.0b6 at work to see, (but I don't
really know if that can be a fair comparison :-)
Downloading the NeXT home page takes about 30 seconds (80k image map)
and scrolling seems to be fine on my machine. Downloading
http://www.sun.com:80/sunworldonline/index.html
and rendering takes 70 seconds or so and scrolling is fine too.
| OmniWeb2 better than Netscape2? Who are they trying to kid?
| Themselves?
|
One of the things I like about using Omniweb is the fact that it's a
NS Web browser with almost all of Netscape 2.0's features.
For the record, I can paste into the open panel. I love being able to
copy a web page, multicolored fonts, images and all, into Edit. This
is it's single most useful feature for me. Don't know if I can do this
in Netscape Windows, Mac or Unix though. Highlighting a URL anywhere I
can highlight text and doing a <CMD-U> is very handy. The OmniSearch
panel is ingenious, very cool, and Open Company is addictive. I
virtually never use the open panels anymore. The time settable cache
is nice. I don't really understand where everyone is saying OW 2.0
needs external image viewer apps. I haven't used one yet. Native
support for jpg, gif, xpm, xbm, and png covers a good 99% of the
images out there.
If you compare the two by their features, then of course Netscape is
better. It's the best browser of all, expecially on SGI machines :-)
and No one is going to catch up with the proprietary plug-ins. With
the plug-ins and Java that's pretty much the game for the next couple
of years, but for me, OW just seems to flow more easily and it's a
more productive info tool.
-Tuan
--
(NeXTmail friendly)
From: kiwi@ariane.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 13 Feb 1996 08:37:48 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <4fpiks$8dq@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <4e84c1$m0n@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> <4f2h1e$jo9@pub02.va.pubnix.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960204125419.17765B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> <4f9akj$2co@gaea.titan.org> <4fdr58$ojc@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> <4ffs9p$m5f@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <311C5722.76AB@arsenal.com> <4fj4qk$ebp@emerald.oz.net> <slrn4htci1.hur.swiet@hops.cs.jhu.edu> <4fpa3m$buo@gryphon.phoenix.net>
Tuan Truong (ttruong@phoenix.net) wrote:
[...]
: Downloading the NeXT home page takes about 30 seconds (80k image map)
: and scrolling seems to be fine on my machine. Downloading
: http://www.sun.com:80/sunworldonline/index.html
: and rendering takes 70 seconds or so and scrolling is fine too.
On my P120 connected to a relatively fast local proxy cache
(each measured from hitting CMD-U from the Newsreader):
65 seconds for the first display. Spent long time waiting for
responses from the proxy (it seemed as if it hadn't everything cached)
5 Seconds for redisplay from OmniWeb's cache including application
switch (window closed, switched to Newsreader, CMD-U again)
18 seconds for loading from filled proxy cache and display
(quit OmniWeb, CMD-U again).
For me, that's not too bad.
I don't have the 'ever growing swapfile problem' either.
It goes up to about 80 Megs and stays there. I have 32 Megs of
memory. Intel P120.
--
Axel Habermann
kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Date: 13 Feb 1996 09:41:53 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4fpmd1$p5j@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <4fpa3m$buo@gryphon.phoenix.net>
In article <4fpa3m$buo@gryphon.phoenix.net> ttruong@phoenix.net (Tuan
Truong) writes:
> On 02/11/96 in the group comp.sys.next.advocacy you (who?) wrote:
> | There's no reason a page which takes 3-5 seconds to retrieve over
> | 14.4 modem should take 15-20 seconds to render.
> |
> OmniWeb is going to be slow on NeXT hardware. I've been ready to throw
> my Mac IIcx at work out the window for about 2 years now. I'm tempted
> to switch to a pentium just so I could use MS Office in a realtively
> quick manner. On my Bifrost built P120, the rendering times are 5
> seconds or less, at least for pages that take 1 to 2 seconds to
> download.
Rendering may well be slower on OmniWeb than Netscape, but then overall
download time is very much slower as well. OmniWeb rendering could be
improved by using different algorithms; at the moment it won't let you
follow a link until most of a page is rendered, and will block displaying
text at the end of a page if there are any intermediate unsized images.
> For the record, I can paste into the open panel. I love being able to
> copy a web page, multicolored fonts, images and all, into Edit. This
> is it's single most useful feature for me. Don't know if I can do this
> in Netscape Windows, Mac or Unix though.
You can't copy and paste into Edit multicolumn text/images, etc (IYSWIM).
Neat feature, though.
Paul
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Date: 13 Feb 1996 10:38:59 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-07.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4fppo3$5cq@usc.edu>
References: <4fpa3m$buo@gryphon.phoenix.net> <4fpmd1$p5j@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
In <4fpmd1$p5j@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Paul Lynch wrote:
> download time is very much slower as well. OmniWeb rendering could be
> improved by using different algorithms; at the moment it won't let you
> follow a link until most of a page is rendered, and will block displaying
> text at the end of a page if there are any intermediate unsized images.
NetSurfer, tho missing most of the more recent features of webbery, allows
you to access links immediately. And one can even turn off images
altogether. I have a strong feelig that NetSurfer will offer a number of
good surprises in it's next release. They've always managed to have pretty
quick accessing of pages. And I prefer many of their UI ideas to OmniWeb.
--
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From: wongj@alum01.its.rpi.edu (Jasper Y. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Chinese/Japanese NS?
Date: 13 Feb 1996 06:02:06 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Message-ID: <4fp9gu$h84@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4fnaln$oul@usenet.rpi.edu> <3120195B.5437@cs.unt.edu>
In article <3120195B.5437@cs.unt.edu>, Alex Chan <chan@cs.unt.edu> wrote:
>
>If you are looking for freeware, you can go to
>ftp://ftp.edu.tw/NeXT/Chinese/
>There is a edit.app clone that support several input method, a Chinese
>version of the newsreader Alexandra, a KaiSu font and several document
>to tell you how to set up Chinese fonts on several applications.
>
>If you are looking for commerical software, I remember there is a demo
>screen shoot a complete Chinese interface for NS in the NS3.3
>3rd party demo CD. I think it is written by a Taiwan Software company. I
>don't know how well it work though. You may take a look at that.
>
>Hope it helps
>--
>Alex Chan
>Ascii-EMail: chan@cs.unt.edu || UNT PO Box #7848 || Powered
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> || NeXTSTEP
Thanks, I looked at the files and they appear to be Intel-only?
Are there black-binaries available?
Jasper
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From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Date: 13 Feb 1996 11:11:39 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4fprlb$qgr@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <4fppo3$5cq@usc.edu>
In article <4fppo3$5cq@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
writes:
> In <4fpmd1$p5j@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Paul Lynch wrote:
>
> > download time is very much slower as well. OmniWeb rendering could be
> > improved by using different algorithms; at the moment it won't let you
> > follow a link until most of a page is rendered, and will block
displaying
> > text at the end of a page if there are any intermediate unsized
images.
>
> NetSurfer, tho missing most of the more recent features of webbery,
allows
> you to access links immediately. And one can even turn off images
> altogether. I have a strong feelig that NetSurfer will offer a number of
> good surprises in it's next release. They've always managed to have
pretty
> quick accessing of pages. And I prefer many of their UI ideas to
OmniWeb.
Yes, NetSurfer seems to develop rapidly behinf the scenes, rathe than the
more visible fashion of OmniWeb. I vastly prefer the more thorough status
information availble from OniWeb, though.
Paul
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From: Ondra Cada <ocs@ms.mff.cuni.cz>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 96 18:54:04 +0100
Subject: Quantrix problem (same in Improv, I guess)
Organization: OCSoftware
Hallo all,
Could some Quantrix or Improv experienced user give me an advice?
Currently I'm using big table ("Details"), which looks like:
value
1994 Jan Item1 number
...
Item5 number
Feb Item1 number
...
Item12 number
...
Dec Item1 number
...
Item3 number
1995 Jan Item1 number
.................
et cetera. The months are only grouped items; the years are groups
of months - whole heading "Year.Month.Item" is only _one_ category
(which contains groups). This is very inconvenient; it would be much
better if there would be categories "Year", "Month" and, say,
"Item". But, there is _diverse_ number of items inside any month!
It's not only the impossibility to rearrange the table; there is
much worse inconveniency. I have another table, "Totals", organized
this way:
1994 1995 ...
Jan sum sum
Feb sum sum
...
Firstly, I cant simply link categories between these two tables.
Secondly, I must use literally hundreds (in fact, there is more data
than two years times twelve months) of virtually identical
formulae:
1994:Jan = sum(Details::1994.Jan:value)
1994:Feb = sum(Details::1994.Feb:value)
...
1995:Jan = sum(Details::1995.Jan:value)
...
Could somebody tell me how to solve the problem? The best way would
be to create a category, which might have _diverse_ number of
items, the number being dependent on other categories (same way as
the contents of cells are dependent). In case it is impossible -
which, I fear, is extremely probable - is there at least some way to
construct a formula like
X:Y = sum(Details::X.Y:value), X in Year, Y in Month
which would be used for all years for X and all months for Y?
I had tried to use even the spec. functions (getcell, cellname
etc), but with no luck :(
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Ondra Cada
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From: richard@brainstorm.co.uk. (Richard Frith-Macdonald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Date: 13 Feb 1996 10:11:04 GMT
Organization: EUnet-GB distributed news service, +44 227 266466
Message-ID: <4fpo3o$s9o@bsdi201.britain.eu.net>
References: <4e84c1$m0n@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> <4f2h1e$jo9@pub02.va.pubnix.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960204125419.17765B-100000@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> <4f9akj$2co@gaea.titan.org> <4fdr58$ojc@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> <4ffs9p$m5f@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <311C5722.76AB@arsenal.com> <4fj4qk$ebp@emerald.oz.net> <slrn4htci1.hur.swiet@hops.cs.jhu.edu> <4fpa3m$buo@gryphon.phoenix.net>
In article <4fpa3m$buo@gryphon.phoenix.net>, Tuan Truong wrote:
>On 02/11/96 in the group comp.sys.next.advocacy you wrote:
>| On 10 Feb 1996 22:05:08 GMT, Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com> wrote:
>| |
>| | OmniWeb has never crashed NEXTSTEP since I've been using it.
>|
>| Really? You must be quitting and restarting it every 2 minutes.
>| See HD. See swapfile. See OW2.0. See swapfile grow. See HD
>| fill. BAM!
I am doing web development for a living. I use OmniWeb for about four
hours a day on a 3.3 Intel system. It has never crashed my machine
(though OmniWeb2 betas have crahed/hung themselves quite frequently).
OmniWeb2 beta-4 seems quite stable. It is now crashing with about a quarter
of the frequency with which Netscape2 crashes on my sunos4.1.3 workstation.
Netscape2 on my windows3.1 PC crashes so often that I can't use it seriously.
>I don't really understand where everyone is saying OW 2.0
>needs external image viewer apps. I haven't used one yet. Native
>support for jpg, gif, xpm, xbm, and png covers a good 99% of the
>images out there.
The above holds for me too - only more so - I think use of external
viewer apps is A GOOD THING in most cases. One thing which would be nice
would be a preferences option to specify services to be used for inline
images - OmniWeb could use services provided by external programs to supply
tiffs for inline display (it may do this already for all I know, but I'd
like to see preferences to specify which app should be used when more
than one offers the conversion service).
>If you compare the two by their features, then of course Netscape is
>better. It's the best browser of all, expecially on SGI machines :-)
Yes - for instance, Netscapes built-in mail does more harm than good.
Most people will have access to mail software which is far better than
what Netscape provides, so the built-in stuff simply makes the app bigger
and more complicated, with more buttons and settings to ignore.
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Application Memory handling in NS
Date: 13 Feb 1996 14:25:03 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4fq6vv$71u@news.its.com>
References: <311D438C.5EA@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> wrote:
> Does NEXTSTEP allow for minimum and maximum memory chunks that a program
> can take up? Is it similar to the way the MAC OS allows you to
> configure the memory chunks per application? If so, how is it done?
You can configure the maximum size if you wish, although it's rare that you
would need to do so. The minimum is adjusted automatically and I can't think
of any circumstances when someone would need to set that.
The system command is documented in "man setrlimit"; normally one uses the
'limit' command built into many shells, including csh, to control the size of
subprocesses spawned from that shell.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: don@misckit.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb
Date: 13 Feb 1996 16:41:35 GMT
Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <4fqevv$i5g@news.xmission.com>
References: <4fpa3m$buo@gryphon.phoenix.net> <4fpmd1$p5j@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) wrote:
> [...] OmniWeb rendering could be
> improved by using different algorithms;
This is demonstrably true. Try running it -NXShowAllWindows and
watch all the unnecessary drawing. I assume that by the final
release much of that extra drawing will be eliminated. That alone
could cut rendering time in half for many pages. Before I pass too
harsh a judgement on speed, I'll wait for the final release.
Remember, this is a beta and they are trying to shake out
fundamental bugs. The real performance tuning will probably be
the last thing they do before the final release.
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com
<a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: (Mark Doucet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Presentation Builder Colro dwrite
Date: 13 Feb 1996 16:30:08 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <4fqeag$42h@news.tamu.edu>
Sorry for the dual posting but my first reply to address was wrong.
The question of the day is, do any you old Improv users remember the
dwrite command to get PresentationBuilder to use the proper Color panel.
Thanks
Mark A. Doucet
From: beckers@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Becki Kain)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: level 3 postscript drivers
Date: 13 Feb 1996 17:36:11 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Sender: beckers@quip.eecs.umich.edu
Message-ID: <4fqi6b$48c@news.eecs.umich.edu>
Summary: postscript level 3 black
Hello:
Are there level 3 postscript drivers available for NS black, 3.2?
Specifically, I'm looking to use my NeXT laser printer with some
NT files, but I'm getting a level 3 postscript error.
thanks
beckers
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WEB software: Anyone compiled LYNX for NeXTStep?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 12:36:40 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960213123533.1623B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4flh8p$gsi@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
On 11 Feb 1996, Lones A Smith wrote:
> Just wondering, since I usually remotely access my NeXT over the modem,
> and need a command line interface with the web. Lynx works great on athena
> here at MIT.
at peanuts and mirrors:
//pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/network/www/lynx.2.2.NI.b.tar.gz
//pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/network/www/lynx.2.2.README
//pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/network/www/lynx.2.37.N.b.tar.gz
//pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/network/www/lynx.2.37.README
don't know what hardware you have....
TjL
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From: Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.multimedia
Subject: VideoConferencing/Collaboration wares-NEXTSTEP
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 11:58:05 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University
Message-ID: <3120D12D.1AAC@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm looking to find out what software- commercial, share/freeware that supports
VideoConferencing/Collaboration on NEXTSTEP. Currently I'm unaware of any.
Also, what ever happened to NEXTIME 2.0?
Thanks,
Eric
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From: shepherd@pathfinder (Scot Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Ingress for NS, Manuals?
Date: 13 Feb 1996 19:03:51 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4fqnan$213@news.onramp.net>
Posted for friend without Net access:
He is looking for documentation for Ingress on NeXTStep. Seems they
have lost track of their originals...
If you have them or know where he could get them send email to me
and I'll forward the message to him. Thanks,
Scot
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From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CD-writer software for NEXTSTEP/FIP?
Date: 13 Feb 1996 19:53:43 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Message-ID: <4fqq87$gj6@tribune.usask.ca>
Is there any software for NEXTSTEP/INTEL machines to work with writeable-CD
drives?
Thanks,
--
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Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory Phone: (306) 966-6308
University of Saskatchewan FAX: (306) 966-6058
Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: NEXTSTEP@PI.NET (Niels Doornhein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Internet software for nextstep 3.3 Intel!!!
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 21:13:29 GMT
Organization: Planet Internet
Message-ID: <4fqupq$1kv@neptunus.pi.net>
I've got an intel standalone machine with nextstep 3.3.
I'm trying to connect it to the internet, but haven't succeded yet!!
I want to use a PPP connection.
What software do i need to connect to the internet, and how must i
configure it???
Thanks in advance!
Niels
From: Don Guthrie <dguthrie@fsight2.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb and transparent images
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 11:17:05 -0500
Organization: insanely interactive systems, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960213111553.925A-100000@iisys.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Will OmniWeb v2.0 support transparent .GIFS (images)? I've noticed that
on some pages that transparent images don't work.
Don Guthrie
dguthrie@iisys.com
From: Don Guthrie <dguthrie@fsight2.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SpiderWoman
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 11:18:11 -0500
Organization: insanely interactive systems, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960213111712.925B-100000@iisys.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I remember hearing something about a web browser called SpiderWoman.
Did this product ever make it out the door, and if so where can I find it?
Don
dguthrie@iisys.com
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CD-writer software for NEXTSTEP/FIP?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 23:34:25 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Feb13.233425.27274@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4fqq87$gj6@tribune.usask.ca>
In article <4fqq87$gj6@tribune.usask.ca> eric@skatter.USask.Ca writes:
> Is there any software for NEXTSTEP/INTEL machines to work with
writeable-CD
> drives?
Ask about eXTRACD, from GS Corp (info@gscorp.com).
Paul
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http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: joel@cais.com (Joel C. McClung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Presentation Builder Colro dwrite
Date: 14 Feb 1996 03:04:30 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470
Message-ID: <4frjfu$c1r@zippy.cais.net>
References: <4fqeag$42h@news.tamu.edu>
In article <4fqeag$42h@news.tamu.edu> (Mark Doucet) writes:
>do any you old Improv users remember the dwrite command to get
>PresentationBuilder to use the proper Color panel.
dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes
--joel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Do high school students apply for Student package?
In-Reply-To: Bandit@skypoint.com's message of 11 Feb 1996 20:22:00 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.96Feb14002426@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4flj58$aq8@stratus.skypoint.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 05:24:26 GMT
I don't see why not. We like to get 'em hooked young. Call 1-800-TRY-NEXT
to find out for sure.
Robert
In article <4flj58$aq8@stratus.skypoint.net> Bandit@skypoint.com (infocide) writes:
I'd like to know if being a high school student i am applicable
for the student package?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ogihara@seg.kobe-u.ac.jp
Subject: MPEG Player on NS ?
Sender: news@icluna.kobe-u.ac.jp (news-admin)
Message-ID: <ogihara.96Feb14165823@celesta>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 21:58:23 GMT
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Kobe Univ.
I want to use so-called "Video on Demand" system on NEXTSTEP.
(NS would be on Intel or SPARC)
Though there are some mpeg player such as MPEG_Play.app,
Movie.app, and so on, they are too slow and can't play sound
synchronously.
I want to see video data stored in VOD server as some software
on SPARC, Indy, or Windows could.
Does anyone know MPEG Player that is able to play smoothly
video and sound of MPEG1 (or 2) data ?
Or, is any MPEG decoding board on Intel that is available from
NS ?
--ogihara-- Takeshi Ogihara, Kobe Univ.
From: otto@olcs.com (Otto Lind)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Application Memory handling in NS
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 14 Feb 1996 07:59:00 GMT
Organization: Otto Lind Consulting Services
Message-ID: <4fs4o4$9o8@olcs.olcs.com>
References: <311D438C.5EA@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4fq6vv$71u@news.its.com>
Chuck Swiger (chuck@its.com) wrote:
: The system command is documented in "man setrlimit"; normally one uses the
: 'limit' command built into many shells, including csh, to control the size of
: subprocesses spawned from that shell.
setrlimit() has never worked in NeXTStep for limiting memory (e.g.
RLIMIT_DATA). Nor does "limit" from within a shell. I think this was
due to a limitation in the Mach version NeXTStep is built on; otherwise
I would have assumed that NeXT would have fixed it a long time ago. The
big pain in this is that a stupid error in a utility program (say rnews)
can bring down your server by filling up swap space :-(
I ended up hacking malloc/free wrappers which keep track of allocations
and aborts if a predefined limit is reached.
Otto
--
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skypoint!olcs!otto voice:(612)457-1080 fax:(612)457-0761
From: e8627164@fbma.tuwien.ac.at (Otto Hainzl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Raw audio-CD data: how to grab w/NS/Intel?
Date: 14 Feb 1996 11:14:56 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <4fsg7g$ojj@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <4f9klp$6vc@news.duke.edu> <DMILtE.Dsr@isltd.insignia.com>
: NeXTStep itself does not support this (bad news)
: CD_evil makes a pretty good job of it though (good news!)
: Only works on Toshiba drives (Bad news)
: What would be really cool would be if NeXT mod'd the audio filesystem to
: apear as a number of snd files! Does anyone have documentation on
: writing filesystems?
: Ian
If you plan to write a driver please also take care of the Apple CD 300 :-)
Otto
From: neuss@sun39 (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and transparent images
Date: 14 Feb 1996 16:29:17 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ft2kt$1nlu@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960213111553.925A-100000@iisys.com>
Don Guthrie (dguthrie@fsight2.com) wrote:
: Will OmniWeb v2.0 support transparent .GIFS (images)? I've noticed that
: on some pages that transparent images don't work.
According to the bug page, this happens with 8bit color models.
I'm sure they'll get it fixed.
Best wishes,
Chris
--
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// neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
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From: ceilidh@atcon.com (cscott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Nextstep OS for IBM compats
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 16:54:27 GMT
Message-ID: <824316867.22037@yar-d146.atcon.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I just came across a .gif file of a screenshot of the NeXTSTEP OS and I believe
I've had a religious experience. Is there a version of Nextstep that I can use
on my P90 with 10 megs RAM? Is such a version in the works? I must have
Nextstep, I will be a slave of Microsoft no longer. Free me from this
tyranny!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and transparent images
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DMs21r.C0n@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 18:01:02 GMT
References: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960213111553.925A-100000@iisys.com>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <Pine.LNX.3.91.960213111553.925A-100000@iisys.com>,
Don Guthrie <dguthrie@fsight2.com> wrote:
>Will OmniWeb v2.0 support transparent .GIFS (images)? I've noticed that
>on some pages that transparent images don't work.
>
I've had it work fine with images I've made using GIFOMatic, but on other
pages it behaves strangely. I don't know why.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: y0000744@ws.rz.tu-bs.de (Dirk Erdmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Keyboard problem under NSfI 3.3
Date: 14 Feb 1996 16:10:42 GMT
Organization: TU Braunschweig, Informatik (Bueltenweg), Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ft1i3$f20@ra.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>
I'm using NSfI 3.3 and have a problem using the function keys
such as PAGE-UP, PAGE-DOWN, DELETE etc. .
I've tried to fix the keyboard layout using 'keyboard.app' but
this doesn't seem to work. The function keys only print out
characters.
Can anyone tell me how to activate these keys ????
Thanks
From: anstine@orion.sas.upenn.edu (David R. Anstine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to rebuild table_of_contents without Mail.app
Date: 14 Feb 1996 19:12:40 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <4ftc78$7uh@netnews.upenn.edu>
I have a user who uses elm to read the contents of his Mail.app mailboxes
from home. Whenever he deletes a message from his Active.mbox, the
table_of_contents becomes out of sync with the mbox file.
Usually, he manually removes the table_of_contents and has Mail.app
rebuild it. But this is becoming a nuisance and timeconsuming, as it
takes a few minutes for the rebuilding process to take place.
Is the any command-line tool the will rebuild a table_of_contents file?
That way I can do the rebuild after each time he uses elm.
-dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Nextstep OS for IBM compats
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DMs486.n1F@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 18:48:05 GMT
References: <824316867.22037@yar-d146.atcon.com>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <824316867.22037@yar-d146.atcon.com>,
cscott <ceilidh@atcon.com> wrote:
>I just came across a .gif file of a screenshot of the NeXTSTEP OS and I believe
>I've had a religious experience. Is there a version of Nextstep that I can use
>on my P90 with 10 megs RAM? Is such a version in the works? I must have
>Nextstep, I will be a slave of Microsoft no longer. Free me from this
>tyranny!!!
>
That amount of RAM is a little low, but you should be able to get a workable
system.
Take a look at http://www.next.com/ -> NeXTanswers -> Intel hardware
Compatability Guide.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Pete Helme <helme@genmagic.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WebObjects installation
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 12:25:21 -0800
Organization: General Magic, Inc.
Message-ID: <31224531.41C6@genmagic.com>
References: <9602080137.AA22498@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
<3119F6A7.6E9E@FreemanSoft.com> <9602090856.AA04428@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> Is it possible to install WebObjects anywhere other than /?
> For various reasons I want to install it in my home directory but,
> although the Apache server works fine, when I try to run any WO stuff
> I simply get a "Did not receive any response from application." error.
>
> I notice that /NextLibrary/WebObjects is listed in the WebObjects
> binary, so is that location hard-wired?
Well I had no luck installing WebObjects on Intel either. I left the installed files (both for WO & Apache) in the
places where they were placed by the installer, because that seems to follow what would be a default installation. If I
try to run the DefaultApp directly as was suggested for the HelloWorld example, the DefaultApp bus errors. any ideas on
that one?
one question. since I am running on an isolated machine, not on a network, do I need to run NetInfo or ypserv in order
for the http stuff to work correctly for name lookup?
thanks!
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: level 3 postscript drivers
Date: 14 Feb 1996 21:30:03 GMT
Organization: my own
Message-ID: <4ftk8r$3hl@gate.seicom.net>
References: <4fqi6b$48c@news.eecs.umich.edu>
beckers@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Becki Kain) wrote:
> Are there level 3 postscript drivers available for NS black, 3.2?
> Specifically, I'm looking to use my NeXT laser printer with some
> NT files, but I'm getting a level 3 postscript error.
Pardon? There is no Level 3 PostScript yet. Maybe you get a different
error, because the PS is written for a specific printer.
Please tell me the error message as printed in the console when
running Preview.app on it (the first few lines are enough).
- Frank
---
Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank
NeXTSTEP, Linux & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C ga ga"
From: ceilidh@atcon.com (cscott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Thank you and further questions
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 22:15:38 GMT
Message-ID: <824336138.494@yar-d151.atcon.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who responded to my news message. I've
never gotten faster response to a question before. It seems you NeXT users are
a cut above the rest. My system seems to be slightly in need of an upgrade to
meet the minimum req of NextStep. It will be expensive to upgrade, but I will
make the changes needed someday soon : ). Will there be a version of NeXTSTEP
that will compete directly with Win95 in the home, business, PC market?
To truely compete with Microsoft and their huge market share, a competitor
would need a product that is far above the rest. I believe Nextstep to be that
product. Build it and I will buy it. Anyone who believes in excellence will as
well. Thanks again.
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Nextstep OS for IBM compats
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 21:58:38 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Feb14.215838.571@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <824316867.22037@yar-d146.atcon.com>
In article <824316867.22037@yar-d146.atcon.com> ceilidh@atcon.com (cscott)
writes:
> I just came across a .gif file of a screenshot of the NeXTSTEP OS and I
believe
> I've had a religious experience. Is there a version of Nextstep that I
can use
> on my P90 with 10 megs RAM? Is such a version in the works? I must have
> Nextstep, I will be a slave of Microsoft no longer. Free me from this
> tyranny!!!
>
It will run. NeXTSTEP runs better with 16, 24 or 32Mb RAM, but it will
certainly run with 10Mb. Look at http://www.next.com/ for details of
supported hardware.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: gwu@dataspec.com (George Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc,comp.emacs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Emacs-W3 and emacs 19.28 problem
Date: 14 Feb 1996 23:59:20 GMT
Organization: The Loop
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ftt0o$8hm@dobie.loop.com>
I recently installed Emacs-W3 2.3.28 and emacs 19.28 on my NEXTSTEP
3.2 system. Everytime I try to run Emacs-W3 I get the following
error:
Signalling: (wrong-type-argument stringp [:family ("serif") :weight
nil :style 0 :size nil :registry nil :encoding nil])
set-face-attribute-internal(10 font [:family ("serif") :weight nil
:style 0 :size nil :registry nil :encoding nil] #<frame Error
0x1c0090>)
internal-set-face-1(\(\[:family\ \(serif\)\ :weight\ nil\ :style\ 0\
:size\ nil\ :registry\ nil\ :encoding\ nil\]\ nil\ nil\) font
[:family ("serif") :weight nil :style 0 :size nil :registry
nil :encoding nil] 3 #<frame Error 0x1c0090>)
internal-set-face-1(\(\[:family\ \(serif\)\ :weight\ nil\ :style\ 0\
:size\ nil\ :registry\ nil\ :encoding\ nil\]\ nil\ nil\) font
[:family ("serif") :weight nil :style 0 :size nil :registry
nil :encoding nil] 3 nil)
w3-handle-emphasis(nil)
w3-handle-single-tag(html nil)
w3-preparse-buffer(#<buffer *URL*>)
w3-prepare-buffer()
w3-pass-to-viewer()
w3-sentinel(#<buffer Error>)
w3-fetch("file:/SharedApps/OmniWeb/Start.html")
w3()
* call-interactively(w3)
execute-extended-command(nil)
call-interactively(execute-extended-command)
Does anyone know what's going on here ? Any help is greatly
appreciated.
George
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Thank you and further questions
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DMsH2t.G09@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 23:25:41 GMT
References: <824336138.494@yar-d151.atcon.com>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <824336138.494@yar-d151.atcon.com>,
cscott <ceilidh@atcon.com> wrote:
>First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who responded to my news message. I've
>never gotten faster response to a question before. It seems you NeXT users are
>a cut above the rest. My system seems to be slightly in need of an upgrade to
>meet the minimum req of NextStep. It will be expensive to upgrade, but I will
>make the changes needed someday soon : ). Will there be a version of NeXTSTEP
>that will compete directly with Win95 in the home, business, PC market?
Not a chance. NeXT isn't after this market--Steve has said that MS has won
the desktop war (hey--don't flame me, I'm just quoting Steve.)
>To truely compete with Microsoft and their huge market share, a competitor
>would need a product that is far above the rest. I believe Nextstep to be that
>product. Build it and I will buy it. Anyone who believes in excellence will as
>well. Thanks again.
>
Let's not say any more, without redirecting this to .advocacy. :-)
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: bkmoore@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu (Brian Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PGP Graphical Frontend for NeXT????
Date: 15 Feb 96 03:17:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <bkmoore.824354235@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
I'm looking for a graphical front end for PGP. Is
there one out there??
Brian Moore
--
Brian Kevin Moore
NeXT Mail preferred
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thank you and further questions
Date: 15 Feb 1996 05:39:03 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Message-ID: <4fugtn$pvo@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <824336138.494@yar-d151.atcon.com>
ceilidh@atcon.com (cscott) wrote:
> First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who responded to my news
> message. I've never gotten faster response to a question before.
> It seems you NeXT users are a cut above the rest.
All our children are above average, too.
> To truely compete with Microsoft and their huge market share, a
> competitor would need a product that is far above the rest. I
> believe Nextstep to be that product. Build it and I will buy it.
> Anyone who believes in excellence will as well. Thanks again.
I'll tell you what. Get about 10^7 of your closest friends and
likeminded colleagues together. Sell them on NS's self-evident
virtues. Make sure they all get their orders in by the first
quarter of 1993, at the absolute latest. Gates won't know what
hit him.
`The SF writer's proper role |================================================
is not to predict the future, | Joshua W Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu
but to prevent it.' - Ellison |================================================
From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Area Code
Date: 15 Feb 1996 06:11:43 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <4fuiqv$mld@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <9602100526.AA10352@thoughtful.com>
> ListMaker is also useful for creating other kinds of lists, such as
> personal phone lists, to-do lists, idea lists, organization lists,
> email lists, lists of your favorite URLs, etc. Lists can be edited
> at any time. A button is also provided to sort a list.
OK, so I downloaded ListMaker and HyperSensePlayer.pkg but it was not at all
clear what to do with all the files of ListMaker. I think the readme could
have helped out here.....
Lones
--
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E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 || of Technology is a Latin affectation
617-253-0914 (voice), -6915 (fax) || with which I strongly disagree.
lones@lones.mit.edu (NeXT mail OK) || Feel free to svbstitvte `u' as desired.
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thank you and further questions
Date: 15 Feb 1996 07:05:00 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-j-02.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4fulus$19h@usc.edu>
References: <824336138.494@yar-d151.atcon.com> <4fugtn$pvo@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In <4fugtn$pvo@news.acns.nwu.edu> <NO AUTHOR> wrote:
> I'll tell you what. Get about 10^7 of your closest friends and
> likeminded colleagues together. Sell them on NS's self-evident
> virtues. Make sure they all get their orders in by the first
> quarter of 1993, at the absolute latest. Gates won't know what
> hit him.
I think whoever is smart enough to get in their order by the first quarter
of 1993 would be smart enough to make sure BG wasn't even conceived.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gdkuch@barrow.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: Thank you and further questions
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Message-ID: <DMtMKo.2Ev@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:21:59 GMT
References: <824336138.494@yar-d151.atcon.com>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <824336138.494@yar-d151.atcon.com>,
cscott <ceilidh@atcon.com> wrote:
>First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who responded to my news message. I'v
>never gotten faster response to a question before. It seems you NeXT users are
>a cut above the rest. My system seems to be slightly in need of an upgrade to
>meet the minimum req of NextStep. It will be expensive to upgrade, but I will
>make the changes needed someday soon : ). Will there be a version of NeXTSTEP
>that will compete directly with Win95 in the home, business, PC market?
Didn't Yoda once say: "If enter the PC mainstream home market now, help some
users you could, but you would destroy all which you have developed for."
I don't think that there's any sensible way that NEXTSTEP could be feasibly
marketed as a Windows 95 competitor. It costs much more. Even if NeXT
lowered the street price to Win 95 territory, its hardware demands are still
greater. Although there is good third party software for NS, there's not
the horde of big name apps that "average people" will demand whether they
need them or not because of peer pressure applied by some knob at their
office with a big pile of pirated disks
>To truely compete with Microsoft and their huge market share, a competitor
>would need a product that is far above the rest. I believe Nextstep to be that
>product. Build it and I will buy it. Anyone who believes in excellence will as
>well. Thanks again.
"The race not to the swift, nor the battle to strong." NEXTSTEP is better
than Windows 95 in pretty much every conceivable technical way, but people
as open-minded as you are, and with your particular needs and wants aren't
all that numerous. Most people are content to swill at the mainstream
Mac and low-end MS troughs, bitching about how they have no choice and
how those companies have ruined the market even though it was their purchases
that let it happen.
--
Jerry Kuch EMail: gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMail welcome.
IMPORTANT NEWS: Scripts for "Godzilla Vs. Desutoroia" had envisaged
the monster's main target as the 1996 World City Expo in Tokyo
but the idea fell through when Gov. Yukio Aoshima cancelled the event.
From: Kjell.Lundesten@computer.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Renaming a DBModel file
Date: 15 Feb 1996 16:16:13 GMT
Organization: Telegate Se
Message-ID: <4fvm8d$n9i@mozart.telegate.se>
Keywords: DBKit, dbmodel
Renaming a DBModel file.
We have created a lot of instance connections from a dbmodel file in some nib
files, using Interface Builder. Now we need to rename the actual dbmodel file
to different name. Doing so will (I assume) loose the connections from
DBTableViews etc. to the dbmodel file, since the actual name of the dbmodel
file seems to be hard typed into the nib's binary file.
How to rename a dbmodel file without loosing the instance connections.
Any help is really appreciated.
Yours sincerely,
Kjell Lundesten
Computer - NeXTcenter
Kungstensgatan 14
S-113 57 Stockholm, Sweden
Tel. +46 8 673 70 70
Mobile +46 70 715 80 60
Fax. +46 8 612 89 96
E-mail: Kjell.Lundesten@computer.se (NeXTmail, MIMEmail OK)
-----------------------------------------------------------
From: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X-Windows on NeXTDimension
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:41:52 -0500
Organization: University of Montreal
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <magnan-1502961141530001@10.0.2.15>
Hi,
I saw one day in comp.sys.next.announce that someone is developping an
X11R6 port for NS that works with the NeXTDimension. I lost the URL of
his WWW site. Anybody has it? Thank you.
Francois Magnan
--
Francois Magnan
magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to install netpbm with libtiff
Date: 19 Feb 1996 12:07:21 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4g9p5p$grd@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4g584r$icv@newstand.syr.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4g584r$icv@newstand.syr.edu>
On 02/17/96, Bing Hu wrote:
>
> Hi! I was trying to install Netpbm in my NeXT machine ruuning
> NeXTstep, it requires libtiff . SO I download a zip file and
> make it according to the instructions and then mv it under the
> netpbm installation directory
>
The easiest thing to do is simply download imagetools from next-ftp.peak.org
-- it's a collection of NTEPBM, libtiff and others compiled by Bill
Bumgarner -- many thanks Bill.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP Graphical Frontend for NeXT????
Date: 19 Feb 1996 12:09:00 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4g9p8s$gro@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <bkmoore.824354235@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
In-Reply-To: <bkmoore.824354235@aldebaran.oac.uci.edu>
On 02/15/96, Brian Moore wrote:
> I'm looking for a graphical front end for PGP. Is
> there one out there??
>
Yes, there's a very good one called Encipher.app.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PS to PDF
Date: 19 Feb 1996 12:10:10 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4g9pb2$guu@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4g00j2$5js@news.eecs.umich.edu> <1996Feb15.233230.3967@seer.demon.co.uk> <4g2njc$52a@news4.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <4g2njc$52a@news4.digex.net>
On 02/16/96, John Kheit wrote:
> > > This is a dumb question for a NEXTSTEP group -- I know, but I
> > > need a PS to PDF translator. Is there any such product for
> > > NEXTSTEP?
> Also, GS Corp has a PDF distiller (for free while BetaTesting).
> --
Umm, not quite free -- you only get it if you buy Collaggi Pallette, and you
have to make some effort to do beta testing...
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WebObjects: BusError on Intel?
Date: 19 Feb 1996 12:14:42 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4g9pji$h32@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4g84f5$72q@cnn.genmagic.com>
In-Reply-To: <4g84f5$72q@cnn.genmagic.com>
On 02/18/96, Operator wrote:
> After intalling WebObjects a couple of times I'm about to give up. The
> WebObjects app in cgi-bin does nothing but bus error for me. I installed
> the Apache server, changed the ServerName to localhost and got httpd
> running with no problem. But if I try to use the example WebObjects from a
> browser nothing happens. trying to run the WebObjects or DefaultApp apps
> directly results in immediate bus error. does anyone have any idea what
> could be wrong?
>
Have you installed WO in / ?
You have to go through some odd incantations (thanks to Charles d'Harcourt
from NeXT for revelaing these) to start the Apps if you install it elsewhere
(cf
http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/
)
Just for reassurance, though, I and I know many, many others have
successfully installed it.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
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From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: JetPilot where?
Message-ID: <DMzJA4.In@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <9602161844.AA15319@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 18:56:26 GMT
In article <9602161844.AA15319@cnext.crec.mipt.ru> writes:
> Could someone point me where I could find JetPilot?
> I get lost at ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Look at
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commerci
al/hardware/printer
Michael
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From: Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: VideoConferencing/Collaboration wares-NEXTSTEP
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 01:22:19 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University
Message-ID: <3126D3AB.5812@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <3120D12D.1AAC@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Are there not ANY videoconferencing apps for NS?
Eric
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SUBMISSIONS: Unix-Toggle, dimscreen, and m68k-tools
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 10:03:54 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960219100231.3046H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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[ Three minor submissions I don't think warrant individual posts -- TjL ]
Timothy J. Luoma
<luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
19 Feb 1996
1) Unix-Toggle:
Binary (for m68k) and source for a commandline binary to change the Unix
Expert setting.
submitted as:
ftp://next-ftp/peak.org/pub/next/submissions/Unix-Toggle.N.bs.tar.gz
should move to:
ftp://next-ftp/peak.org/pub/next/binaries/util/Unix-Toggle.N.bs.tar.gz
2) dimscreen
A series of binaries (no source code, sorry, I don't have it!) and shell
scripts for manipulating the screen brightness on NeXT Hardware.
subitted as:
ftp://next-ftp/peak.org/pub/next/submissions/dimscreen.N.bs.tar.gz
should move to:
ftp://next-ftp/peak.org/pub/next/binaries/screen/dimscreen.N.bs.tar.gz
3) m68k-tools:
A series of binaries (and some source code) of helpful "tools" for the
NeXT hardware, including a binary to set the volume level from the
commandline, turn off the alphalock (Where did this go? Wasn't it on the
archives at one point?), set the background image, turn off the laser
printer, and read the hardware password.
While these seemed like good things to have, releasing them all
separately seemed like a hassle for both me and the person maintaining
the archive. The compressed size is only 15517 bytes anyway.
While these might compile for other architectures (where source code is
available) I think they all have to do with NeXT hardware anyway, or at
least might not work under different hardware. If you find out
otherwise, please let me know.
submitted as:
ftp://next-ftp/peak.org/pub/next/submissions/m68k-tools.N.bs.tar.gz
should move to:
ftp://next-ftp/peak.org/pub/next/binaries/tools/m68k-tools.N.bs.tar.gz
I use all of these programs myself without trouble, but use at your own
risk, as always.
BTW: none of these were submitted to peanuts.leo.org because I just
couldn't get a decent connection rate.
TjL
--
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Autolaunching Fiend w/o using the Dock
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 10:16:02 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960219100602.3046I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4g82v5$c2v@usc.edu>
On 18 Feb 1996, Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> In <4g809c$dne@news.xmission.com> Kristopher Jon Magnusson wrote:
> > I don't want Fiend sitting on my dock, but I want it to autolaunch. I've
> > tried
> >
> > dwrite Fiend NXAutoLaunch Yes
> >
> > but it has no effect.
> >
> > I tried exec'ing Fiend from .login and .profile, but all it did was launch
> > a new instance of Fiend every time I open a Terminal window.
which is what it should do, given those files...
>
> 2 possibilities:
>
> 1) Get from ftp sites FSGroupWare, or something like that - this adds
> preference modules to Preference.app, one of which is a launch preference -
> just drag Fiend into that preference and it will autolaunch just fine;
>
> 2) Get TickleServices from ftp sites - this has service to add items for
> autolaunch.
>
> I prefer the FS solution, myself.
Nah, ya gotta go hardcore and use the commandline (ok, you don't
_have_to, but you can if you're sadistic. These all modify the dwrite
'Workspace LaunchPaths'.
I found it pleasant to install this dwrite:
dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths /Users/luomat/.consolelogin
where ~/.consolelogin is a #!/bin/sh script. Inside that one file I put
lots of commands that I want executed on login, including
#!/bin/sh
open /LocalApps/Fiend.app & # must use "&" to have Fiend run in
# the background of this shell, so
# it will get to other commands here.
exit 0
This way I can add commands to be run at login (only a console login, not
a telnet login) by adding them to this file. This can include opening
other apps which are not on the dock, or other commands.
Make sure to do 'chmod 700 ~/.consolelogin' to make the file executable.
if you need help with this, let me know.
TjL
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 19 Feb 1996 05:15:12 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4g9110$6nk@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
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Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
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===========================================
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
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The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
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Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
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=====================================
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From: bhu@hydra.syr.edu (Bing Hu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems Installing Netpbm
Date: 19 Feb 1996 20:59:55 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4gaocb$jaj@newstand.syr.edu>
Hi! I was trying to install Netpbm in my NeXT machine ruuning
NeXTstep, it requires libtiff . SO I download a zip file and
make it according to the instructions and then mv it under the
netpbm installation directory, but when I try to make the
netpbm, it give me error message "ld: table of contents for archive:
../libtiff/libtiff.a is out of date; rerun ranlib(1) (can't load from it)
" then exit 1 stop.
I checked the libtiff several times and remake it several times, it
makes well every time, and it is dated 1994.
Can anybody tell me what is wrong, or I need to get a latest version
of libtiff ? And where ?
PS. I need netpbm or pbmplus to install latest version of latex2html,
yet my server doesn't have it.
--
*****************************************************************
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From: Eric Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.multimedia
Subject: ISDN NS driver? Was: VideoConferencing/Collaboration wares-NEXTSTEP
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:19:06 -0800
Organization: Illinois State University
Message-ID: <3129137A.739E@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <3120D12D.1AAC@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <3126D3AB.5812@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
So this Videoconferencing question leads me to the next question: are
there ISDN drivers for NS? But I don't care about ISDN right now. I
have ethernet drivers. So hopefully we'll see some software! :)
Eric
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From: ggrant@thales.math.upenn.edu (Gregory Grant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Latex2e gothic fonts
Date: 19 Feb 1996 22:36:31 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <4gau1f$lld@netnews.upenn.edu>
If anybody has installed the latex2e gothic fonts, the oldgerm
package, I would really appreciate if I could ask you a few
questions, I am having a little bit of trouble. Please email me.
Thanks a lot,
Greg Grant
ggrant@math.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: yzhao@netcom.com (Yi Zhao)
Subject: Emacs.app and Unknown Screen Class
Message-ID: <yzhaoDn1v25.CKF@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 01:06:05 GMT
Sender: yzhao@netcom20.netcom.com
I installed Emacs.app (4.0 I believe) on my NEC Versa notebook, and when I
started it I got the error message that the screen has an unknown visual
class. I remember this issue has been discussed in this group sometime ago
but I cannot remember the conclusion. Is it because of the 8-bit color
display? Is there a fix for it?
Thanks.
Yi
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WebMapper Question - only connects me back to my homepage.
Date: 20 Feb 1996 01:35:50 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-55.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4gb8hm$ooo@usc.edu>
Situation:
I've got a Homepage that has link to a subpage1 which has a image and the
map file I created with Webmapper. But no matter which designated hot area I
select, I'm zwooped back to my home page....???
Here's the link on my home page to subpage1:
<li><font size=5><a href=
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~reichman/subpage1.html><blink><b>Test</b></blink><a/
>
Here's the subpage1 link to the image and mapping.map:
<A HREF="http://www-scf.usc.edu/~reichman/"> <IMG SRC="Images/test.tiff"
USEMAP="mapping.map#CLIENT" ISMAP></A>
Here's the mapping.map to the subpage1:
default http://www-scf.usc.edu/~reichman/subpage1.html
circle (121,183) 50 http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/
circle (162,55) 47 http://www-scf.usc.edu/~reichman/subpage1.html
circle (156,371) 61
http://www.movielink.com/?TP:MainMenu+FP:Ad+MId:LA+ZId:90046+GId:90046+QD:to
day
circle (161,275) 33 http://www.he.tdl.com/~ivan/
What am I doing wrong?
--
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where is EOUser.pkg?
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:05:27 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960219200421.1934B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I just installed the FoundationUserPatch on my NeXT running 3.2, and it
told me I need to install EOUser.pkg as well.
Where can I get it?
Thanks
TjL
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From: kwong@plato.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Smalltalk for NeXT/i386
Date: 20 Feb 1996 02:11:28 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Message-ID: <4gbakg$fbr@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
Hello, Is there a Smalltalk for NeXT/i386 exclude the GNU Smalltalk.
Thanks!
--KAI--
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"Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that
you do it." --Mahatma Gandhi
From: Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs.app and Unknown Screen Class
Date: 20 Feb 1996 02:51:29 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <4gbcvh$dmv@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <yzhaoDn1v25.CKF@netcom.com>
In <yzhaoDn1v25.CKF@netcom.com> Yi Zhao wrote:
> I installed Emacs.app (4.0 I believe) on my NEC Versa notebook, and when
I
> started it I got the error message that the screen has an unknown visual
> class. I remember this issue has been discussed in this group sometime ago
> but I cannot remember the conclusion. Is it because of the 8-bit color
> display? Is there a fix for it?
Yes and yes. You are using a very old version of Emacs.app which was
written in the days of NS3.2 before there were 8 bit color displays.
Luckily that problem was fixed ages ago. Get version 4.1 (or 4.12) from the
archives.
Carl Edman
From: tm8025a@mailhost.soc.american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Java and WebObjects connectivity
Date: 20 Feb 1996 06:51:23 GMT
Organization: American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <4gbr1b$90g@paladin.american.edu>
I tried to find the past conversation about Java and WebObjects
interoperability but its gone. Can someone refresh my memory concerning how
the two can work together with an example perhaps? This concerns the NeXT
whitepaper that says "...A Java compiler for the NeXT object model."
And this leads me to "Will there be a Java toolkit for Interface builder and
the dev apps?"
--
Torrey McMahon
American University School of Communication
System Administrator, WebMaster, and Security Consultant
NeXT, MIME, and ASCII PGP and CyptorBundle
From: tyf@ucsee.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Tin-Yau Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] how to install Latex2e?
Date: 20 Feb 1996 08:16:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <4gc00h$gq3@agate.berkeley.edu>
Hi,
I just started using the NeXTeX and InstantTeX package.
They are a wonderful combo. Unfortunately, much of the LaTeX tutorial
I find today use LaTex2e instead of Latex2.09 which NeXTTeX includes.
What exactly do I need to do to make NeXTTeX to recognize LaTex2e-style
documents? I recall from a previous post that no compiling is needed,
just a new style file. I would greatly appreciate if someone could
help out.
Also, what's a good TeX ftp site besides ftp.tex.ac.uk? CTAN
is so slow to be useful. Is there a North American mirror site?
Thanks in advance.
From: pbrown@asparagus.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] how to install Latex2e?
Date: 20 Feb 1996 09:27:45 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Message-ID: <4gc46h$jbh@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <4gc00h$gq3@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <4gc00h$gq3@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Tin-Yau Fung <tyf@ucsee.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:
> I just started using the NeXTeX and InstantTeX package.
>They are a wonderful combo. Unfortunately, much of the LaTeX tutorial
>I find today use LaTex2e instead of Latex2.09 which NeXTTeX includes.
>What exactly do I need to do to make NeXTTeX to recognize LaTex2e-style
>documents? I recall from a previous post that no compiling is needed,
>just a new style file. I would greatly appreciate if someone could
>help out.
I have had my share of, um, fun with TeX lately. You have a couple of
options. You can take the LaTeX2e files and lump them in with the old TeX
distribution on the NeXT. It's easy: all of the inputs go in the inputs
directory, all of the fonts go in the fonts directory, etc. OR, you can
rebuild and patch TeX to take advantage of the kpathsearch directory
search engine by Karl Berry. This takes a bit of work and some patching
to make things work properly. (The patch is *illegal* due to silliness
about copyrights on the part of NeXT, I think, so I certainly wouldn't know
anything about it wink wink.)
> Also, what's a good TeX ftp site besides ftp.tex.ac.uk? CTAN
>is so slow to be useful. Is there a North American mirror site?
ftp.SHSU.edu
Sam Houston State University. Everything is there. You will have to go
elsewhere to find the sources for cweb, et al., required to recompile TeX
to get the new (k)TeX.
Paul
From: suckow@contrib.de (Ralf Suckow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Java and WebObjects connectivity
Date: 20 Feb 1996 09:08:04 GMT
Organization: Alcatel/Bell
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gc31k$nri@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be>
References: <4gbr1b$90g@paladin.american.edu>
Torrey McMahon writes
-- And this leads me to "Will there be a Java toolkit for Interface builder and
-- the dev apps?"
--
You might want to check out
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/resources/
palettes/BuildUIsNow.1.0.beta3.NIHS.b.tar.gz
Its a IB palette to build Java AWT interfaces.
Yours
--
Ralf Suckow
suckow@contrib.de
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Java and WebObjects connectivity
Date: 20 Feb 1996 10:22:27 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4gc7d3$b5n@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4gbr1b$90g@paladin.american.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4gbr1b$90g@paladin.american.edu>
On 02/20/96, Torrey McMahon wrote:
> I tried to find the past conversation about Java and WebObjects
> interoperability but its gone. Can someone refresh my memory
> concerning how the two can work together with an example perhaps?
> This concerns the NeXT whitepaper that says "...A Java compiler
> for the NeXT object model."
>
The white paper is available from NeXT's WWW pages.
> And this leads me to "Will there be a Java toolkit for Interface
> builder and the dev apps?"
>
:-)
The talented Ralf Suckow of melonSoft has just announced such a beast: look
for the BuildUIsNow pallette:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/resou
rces/palettes/BuildUIsNow.1.0.beta3.NIHS.b.tar.gz
Best wishes,
mmalc.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: PGP Graphical Frontend for NeXT????
Message-ID: <Dn1Bz4.Mq@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <4g9p8s$gro@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:13:51 GMT
In article <4g9p8s$gro@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford
<m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes:
> On 02/15/96, Brian Moore wrote:
> > I'm looking for a graphical front end for PGP. Is
> > there one out there??
> >
> Yes, there's a very good one called Encipher.app.
Or try NXPGP. It's a nice small app which is accessible over the
Services menu. Works perfect here with pgp.2.62.ui.
Michael
--
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Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 543915
Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
PGP : Public Key on demand
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How do I tell who has accessed my webpage?
Date: 20 Feb 1996 10:02:29 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-j-06.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4gc67l$mmf@usc.edu>
Is there a way to automatically log who accesses my webpage(s)? Not a form
to be voluntarily filled out, but an automatic full recognition of
name@domain, etc. and when?
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
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NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
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From: Rony Daher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Macintosh Emulation
Date: 20 Feb 1996 12:49:51 GMT
Organization: Cleveland State University
Message-ID: <4gcg1f$i0r@csu-b.csuohio.edu>
Greetings,
What Macintosh Emulators are available other than Ardi's Executor for NEXTSTEP. I remember reading about another emulator designed for Black NeXTs. Is this still availablee? If so, where can I obtain a copy.
Thanks for your help
Rony Daher
Network Support Technician
Cleveland State University
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Problem with tcsetattr & tcgetattr
Date: 20 Feb 1996 14:08:18 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4gckki$7hb@news.its.com>
References: <4g0prm$oae@news.acns.nwu.edu>
mallen@nwu.edu (Mark Allen) wrote:
> I'm trying to compile the s/key security package for NS3.3; and I keep
> getting errors from the linker with
> "unresolved symbols:
> _tcsetattr
> -tcgetattr"
>
> errors. Now apparently, the C libraries don't contain this function? The
> only one that I saw that seemed to have these symbols was the libposix.a
> package; [ ... ]
Read the compiler documentation. Compile with "cc -posix" if you want to
call POSIX functions, and be prepared to encounter severe bugs, especially
unless you are running NS 3.3 patched.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: Scott Byer <byer@mv.us.adobe.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Windows NT on Black Hardware (No flaming Please...)
Date: 14 Feb 1996 11:09:03 -0800
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View, CA
Sender: byer@birch.mv.us.adobe.com
Message-ID: <psn36lwwq8.fsf@birch.mv.us.adobe.com>
References: <4ffsg6$rd7@news.its.com> <DMnz3q.8K7@isltd.insignia.com>
<Pine.HPP.3.91.960212171021.27124D-100000@hphalle7a.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
In-reply-to: Bernhard Scholz's message of Mon, 12 Feb 1996 17:11:55 +0100
Bernhard> Isn't Intel Little-Endian? Isn't DEC-Alpha Big-Endian? Doesn't
Bernhard> Windows NT run on both architectures?
No.
The Dec Alpha is #$&$*#ing little endian. Little endian is even _MORE_
annoying when you've got 64 bits to flip around in your head when
debugging...
--
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Adobe Systems Incorporated These are my opinions, and
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900 do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900 the opinions of my employer.
=== ===
From: r.daher@csuohio.edu (Rony Daher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP and Serial Port Driver3.33
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 02:29:30 GMT
Organization: Cleveland State
Message-ID: <4gdl7r$lkf@csu-b.csuohio.edu>
Greetings all,
I'm currently in the process of installing Steven Perkins' port of PPP
for the NeXT (2.2.04.6) on my Intel box. After setting up PPP as
instructed in the documentation, I connect to my provider and instead
of PPP beginning negotiation, it hung up and gave the message "Serial
Line is Looped Back"
In an effort to fix this, I downloaded the new Serial Drivers (3.33),
the Serial Pointing Device (3.33) and Port Server (3.33) drivers. Upon
installing Serial 3.33 drivers, I could no longer access COM2. I've
checked the IO addresses and IRQ's and everything was set identically
to when the system ran the 3.30 serial drivers.
If anybody has had any experience installing the new serial drivers
and can help me solve the loopback problem, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thank you,
Rony Daher
Network Support Technician
Cleveland State University
From: mathiasp@infotell.isar.de (Mathias Picker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and transparent images ( known but with 8-bit displays)
Date: 17 Feb 1996 08:26:59 GMT
Organization: InfoTell
Message-ID: <4g43gj$33p@mp.infotell.isar.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960213111553.925A-100000@iisys.com> <DMs21r.C0n@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
In <DMs21r.C0n@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote:
> In article <Pine.LNX.3.91.960213111553.925A-100000@iisys.com>,
> Don Guthrie <dguthrie@fsight2.com> wrote:
> >Will OmniWeb v2.0 support transparent .GIFS (images)? I've noticed that
> >on some pages that transparent images don't work.
> >
>
> I've had it work fine with images I've made using GIFOMatic, but on
other
> pages it behaves strangely. I don't know why.
>
>
There is a known bug with transparent GIF's on 8-bit color displays. It's
been mentioned more then once on the OmniWeb mailinglist.
--
Mathias Picker mathiasp@infotell.isar.de
Hypermedia Phone: +49 89 54070199
Knowledge re/pre sentation Fax: +49 89 54070198
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How do I tell who has accessed my webpage?
Date: 20 Feb 1996 19:04:35 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-52.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4gd603$dig@usc.edu>
References: <4gc67l$mmf@usc.edu> <4gcov7$i9f@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
In <4gcov7$i9f@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> Matthew N. Reichman (reichman@scf.usc.edu) wrote:
> : Is there a way to automatically log who accesses my webpage(s)?
> : Not a form to be voluntarily filled out, but an automatic full
recognition
> : of name@domain, etc. and when?
>
> Yeah.. its called a Web server :-)
>
> They normally have a loggin facility. You will need some mechanism for
> evaluating this format (its pretty low level). You can either roll your
> own (if you're into Perl, you might want to check out
> http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/Handbook) or use one of the
> utilities available from the Net.
>
> Very often, an fgrep foo < file.log | wc -l does the job, too. :)
Apologies - I didn't specify that I was referring to the following
situation:
My school runs the web server and each student gets an html directory as a
subset of their home directory. There I can store webpages, etc.
So, since I don't run the webserver, what is the solution?
Also, please note, I've not yet begun to study html so I am asking from an
high level of ignorance. Right now, all I need is to know who visited my
page(s).
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
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From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Autolaunching Fiend w/o using the Dock
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 22:47:03 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Feb20.224703.2076@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4g809c$dne@news.xmission.com>
In article <4g809c$dne@news.xmission.com> kris@monolith.planetary.net
(Kristopher Jon Magnusson) writes:
> I don't want Fiend sitting on my dock, but I want it to autolaunch. I've
> tried
>
> dwrite Fiend NXAutoLaunch Yes
>
> but it has no effect.
Try:
dwrite Workspace LaunchPaths /LocalApps/Fiend.app/Fiend
(or whatever)
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Spoofs
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:11:05 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Feb20.231105.2334@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4gd2s6$fr1@news.internetmci.com>
In article <4gd2s6$fr1@news.internetmci.com> american@internetMCI.COM
(Charles C. Hocker) writes:
> Hello,
> I was just wondering what the OmniWeb "Domains to Spoof" is
> for?
Coping with sites that will only send you frames (or tables, or anything
else) if they identify your browser as Netscape. One of those "helpful"
things that people do when you don't want them to.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de>
Subject: Re: Delete keys
In-Reply-To: "Richard L. Bowman"'s message of Fri, 9 Feb 96 11:55:40 -0500
Message-ID: <7xg2c7p8ga.fsf@burrow.muc.de>
To: "Richard L. Bowman" <rbowman@Bridgewater.EDU>
Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de
Organization: hardly any...
References: <9602091655.AA07457@mercury.Bridgewater.EDU>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:48:54 GMT
>>>>> "RLB" == Richard L Bowman <rbowman@Bridgewater.EDU> writes:
RLB> I can access my office-based NeXT (black) via modem from
RLB> home. The problem is that the delete keys do not work
RLB> properly, and their behavior is inconsistent from application
RLB> to application. In normal terminal mode, the DEL key appears
RLB> to do what the NeXT delete key does. In the editor ed, the
RLB> DEL key appears to delete the characters but does not move
RLB> backwards. And so forth...
RLB> Does anyone have a solution?
if you mean the backspace key (i don't have a DEL key on my black
keyboard): a dirty way is try typing ctrl-h. another way would be to
play around with termcap entries but i don't know anything about this.
hth,
markus g a/k/a the mole
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From: pbrown@asparagus.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: BibTeX program?
Date: 21 Feb 1996 02:50:29 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Message-ID: <4ge19l$khp@agate.berkeley.edu>
Would someone forward me the location of that bibTeX program that was
running around a while ago? I've mislaid it...
Paul
From: xinwei@leland.stanford.edu (Sha Xin Wei)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: EPS (Encapsulated Postscript)
Date: 21 Feb 1996 02:36:42 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <4ge0fq$ar1@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <3117A17B.73EB@sasknet.sk.ca>
Hello,
How can I create an EPS (Encapsulated Postscript) file from a ps or tiff
file under NeXTSTEP 3.3?
Please respond directly to me by email: xinwei@leland.stanford.edu
thanks!
Xin Wei
From: richard@brainstorm.co.uk. (Richard Frith-Macdonald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fax server for non-next machines?
Date: 21 Feb 1996 08:12:17 GMT
Organization: EUnet-GB distributed news service, +44 227 266466
Message-ID: <4gek51$3jg@bsdi201.britain.eu.net>
I want to use my NeXTstep (intel) system as a fax server (send only) for the
other unix systems on my network.
I tried writing a small daemon to wait for requests to send (plain text)
documents, put the data into a Text object, and send the fax using -
[text faxPSCode:self
toList:names
numberList:numbers
sendAt:0
wantsCover:YES
wantsNotify:NO
wantsHires:NO
faxName:title];
This seemed to work when I ran it in a test mode (program reads from stdin
rather than waiting for incoming network connections), by double-clicking on
the program icon.
When I ran it from the command line, it was unable to get a postscript
context for imaging. I got it to work by setting my preferences to have a
public postscript display. This is not a solution for when it is running as
a daemon, and I am not logged in.
Q1. How do I get it to have a valid postscript context when running as
a daemon?
Q2. How do I get my program to select different fax cover sheets?
Q3. How do I set the field values to be substituted into the cover sheet?
Any help greatly appreciated.
Richard Frith-Macdonald
From: neuss@sun39 (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How do I tell who has accessed my webpage?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 21 Feb 1996 10:26:53 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Message-ID: <4ges1d$g8v@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <4gc67l$mmf@usc.edu> <4gcov7$i9f@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <4gd603$dig@usc.edu>
Matthew N. Reichman (reichman@scf.usc.edu) wrote:
: Apologies - I didn't specify that I was referring to the following
: situation:
: My school runs the web server and each student gets an html directory as a
: subset of their home directory. There I can store webpages, etc.
: So, since I don't run the webserver, what is the solution?
Well, I in turn have to apologize if I did not make that clear enough..
If somebody accesses your Web page, there is a server involved. In the
case of your school, they run a Web server and have configured it in
such a way that your homedirectory is accessible via the /~user
mechanism.
And where there's a web server, there's a log file.
So, hopefully, all you have to do is ask the webmaster where the
log file is stored. Take a look at it, there format is easy to
figure out.
It might, however, be that they deny you read access to the file.
If _that_ is the case, you can embedd a <IMG SRC="/cgi/script">
into your page, and let the CGI script do the logging. That is,
however, not very good style, and should be used as the last resort.
Besides, it requires that you get familiar with CGI scripts.
Get back to me in personal mail if you need further assistance.
Chris
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// neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
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From: robert@steffi.mnsinc.com (Robert Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How do I tell who has accessed my webpage?
Date: 21 Feb 1996 05:07:07 -0500
Organization: x
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References: <4gc67l$mmf@usc.edu> <4gcov7$i9f@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
<4gd603$dig@usc.edu>
You have two choices...
If you're school is running a server side includes supported server you can log accesses yourself.
Or... if you're school will ScriptAlias a cgi bin directory for you then you can dynamically create
your home page from a cgi script and the script to maintain a log also.
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MusicNotation Software - NoteAbility
Date: 21 Feb 1996 17:44:09 GMT
Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main
Message-ID: <4gfll9$15h@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <4gd9s0$891@elna.ethz.ch>
petitmermet@biocomp.mat.ethz.ch (Marc Petitmermet) wrote:
> Opus 1 Music Inc. announces the release of NoteAbility - a professional
> music notation package for NeXTStep computers.
> Notate anything from
> simple melodies to complex avant garde orchestral music, play the score
> on your MIDI synthesizer
> - a wide variety of entry methods including mouse, on-screen keyboard,
> MIDI step time, MIDI real time and QuickScrawl (gesture recognition)
Hm, does combining these features mean you also have something like a
professional MIDI Sequencer for NEXTSTEP? That's a kind of application I'm
desperately missing (not to mention the combination with harddisk
recording...) :-(
Bye
Uli
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From: ktwu@alw.nih.gov (Kuo-Tsung Wu)
Subject: Opener.app 3.3 stops working suddenly
Message-ID: <1996Feb21.165512.21165@alw.nih.gov>
Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster)
Organization: NIDCD/ESDSB
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:49:02 GMT
My NeXTstation (3.2 user/developer) suffered couple of bad crushs
lately. Since then Opener.app ceased functioning. Now when I click
a compressed file, Opener starts up and the curser keeps spinning and
spinning. I have to kill the process after a while. Remove the
defaults and reinstall a new copy does not work (I might miss something).
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
KT
--
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NIH/NIDCD/ESDSB voice: 301/402-1843
Rockville, MD fax: 301/402-0390
From: Andreas Obst <obst@ccm.udel.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: voice and/or handwriting recognition for NeXT?
Date: 21 Feb 1996 13:11:01 GMT
Organization: CCM - University of Delaware
Message-ID: <4gf5l5$abb@news.udel.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Is there any soft/hardware for the NeXT for
voice recognition? I am looking for something more powerful than
just opening and closing windows -- along the lines of
Power Secretary for the MAC. You should pretty much be able to
dictate letters and reports.
Also, is there anything that does handwriting recognitiom, similar
to the Newton?
I need something that lets me put a lot of text into the NeXT without
using the keyboard too much.
Thanks,
Andreas
From: "Christoph Widmer (by ubsswop)" <zhwit>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WANTED: (public domain) database-server for NSFIP
Date: 21 Feb 1996 06:10:19 GMT
Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland
Message-ID: <4ged0b-42k@svstch.ubs.ch>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anybody knows a sql-server which runs on NSFIP ?
Thanks
Christoph
From: chiu7134@sparky.cs.nyu.edu (Chiu Wen-Shin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SNMP agent for NeXTSTEP?
Date: 22 Feb 1996 05:05:54 GMT
Organization: New York University
Message-ID: <4ggtji$6np@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
Is there any product available?
Thanks.
--
Regards,
Wenshin
Newsgroups: comp.emulators.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: RELEASE: Owl1.0 - BBC emulator
Message-ID: <Dn6JH8.6n4@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 13:43:56 GMT
Owl
A BBC Emulator for NeXTStep
Release1.0
Owl emulates an Acorn BBC Micro, model B(ish). It includes almost
complete emulation of the hi-res video modes,teletext, 6522via's and the
keyboard. A simple read-only file system is also provided. It can more
or less run a number of arcade games, at almost full speed (on my
machine - your millage may vary).
I've just uploaded version1.0 to pitcher.peak.org. This release is a
vast improvement on 0.1, and should work on all (NeXT! - don't ask me
for a DOS version!) hardware platforms.
Software to run on the emulator may obtained from
http://www.idt.unit.no/~robert/bbc/bbc.html.
Ian
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] how to install Latex2e?
Date: 22 Feb 1996 22:41:42 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Message-ID: <4girf6$17de@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <4gc00h$gq3@agate.berkeley.edu> <4gc46h$jbh@agate.berkeley.edu> <STREBEL2.96Feb21234035@rihm.mpibpc.gwdg.de>
Stephan Trebels (strebel2@rihm.mpibpc.gwdg.de) wrote:
: IMHO, it's not clear whether it's a good idea to use kpathsea. it's flexible, ok,
: but I built it on various platforms, and it's performance not good. yes, it can
: be improved, by blocking dir accesses, and so on, but then much of the flexibility
: is lost.
All other issues aside - the opinion above USED to be valid a few
years ago.
--mj
machine dvips was replaced a few times already. :-)
Just recompile.
--mj
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: How do I tell who has accessed my webpage?
Message-ID: <Dn2ytK.x4@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <4gc67l$mmf@usc.edu>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:24:55 GMT
In article <4gc67l$mmf@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N.
Reichman) writes:
> Is there a way to automatically log who accesses my webpage(s)? Not
> a form to be voluntarily filled out, but an automatic full
> recognition of name@domain, etc. and when?
You will surely not be able to log the name, but if you have access
to the logfiles of the httpd, you can see, from which domain an when
an access occured.
If you want complete access logging, you have to use a form.
But why do you post this to c.s.n.s?
Michael
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From: gdkuch@barrow.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: [Q] how to install Latex2e?
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Message-ID: <Dn7AD2.6Cu@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 23:24:38 GMT
References: <4gc00h$gq3@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4gc00h$gq3@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Tin-Yau Fung <tyf@ucsee.EECS.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:
>Hi,
> I just started using the NeXTeX and InstantTeX package.
>They are a wonderful combo. Unfortunately, much of the LaTeX tutorial
>I find today use LaTex2e instead of Latex2.09 which NeXTTeX includes.
>What exactly do I need to do to make NeXTTeX to recognize LaTex2e-style
>documents? I recall from a previous post that no compiling is needed,
>just a new style file. I would greatly appreciate if someone could
>help out.
>
> Also, what's a good TeX ftp site besides ftp.tex.ac.uk? CTAN
>is so slow to be useful. Is there a North American mirror site?
The easiest way to get the LaTeX2e macro packages, as well as the AMSTeX
and AMS Fonts macros is to get them from:
ftp://mathlab03.unl.edu/pub/software/NeXT/TeX
The copies at this site are in the proper format for use with the NeXT
Installer.app and so getting them set up involves essentially no fuss (you
do have to set a couple of environment variables but this is documented
in the packages).
--
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IMPORTANT NEWS: Scripts for "Godzilla Vs. Desutoroia" had envisaged
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but the idea fell through when Gov. Yukio Aoshima cancelled the event.
From: Hugh Allan <hallan@origin.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: RELEASE: Owl1.0 - BBC emulator
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 04:31:07 GMT
Message-ID: <9602230431.AA22797@origin.demon.co.uk>
In comp.sys.next.software article <Dn6JH8.6n4@isltd.insignia.com> you wrote:
> Owl
> A BBC Emulator for NeXTStep
> Release1.0
>
> Owl emulates an Acorn BBC Micro, model B(ish). It includes almost
> complete emulation of the hi-res video modes,teletext, 6522via's and the
> keyboard. A simple read-only file system is also provided. It can more
> or less run a number of arcade games, at almost full speed (on my
> machine - your millage may vary).
>
> I've just uploaded version1.0 to pitcher.peak.org. This release is a
> vast improvement on 0.1, and should work on all (NeXT! - don't ask me
> for a DOS version!) hardware platforms.
>
> Software to run on the emulator may obtained from
> http://www.idt.unit.no/~robert/bbc/bbc.html.
>
> Ian
Congratulations... Errrmm... What you say games... Disk version of Elite ;-} ?
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From: bayleyp@slip.net (bayleyp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 23 Feb 1996 04:38:49 GMT
Organization: me
Message-ID: <bayleyp-2202962050560001@slip205.ucs.orst.edu>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4f41a8$j2a@pentagon.io.com> <4f4a6t$sns@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4fd9il$ao@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com> <jragosta-1202960855160001@ppp-1007.dca.net> <4g4r1s$lc@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com>
In article <4g4r1s$lc@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com>, mow@navigator.de
(Markus Wenzel) wrote:
> In <jragosta-1202960855160001@ppp-1007.dca.net> Joe Ragosta wrote:
> > In article <4fd9il$ao@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com>, mow@navigator.de
> > (Markus Wenzel) wrote:
> >
> > > You forgot the number of reboots of your Mac in the meantime.
> > > My Next runs stable for months, whereas my customers tell me that
> > > they push reset almost once an hour. What does OpenDoc give
> > > to me, if the base OS and network functionality is even worse than
> > > good old Messy-DOS? And getting worser with each new release!
>
> > Sorry, but if you're the consultant responsible for these computers, you
> > probably don't want to be announcing this to the world. Any who sets up
> > computers that crash every hour is clearly incompetent--whether it's
> > MacOS, Windows, Next, OS/2, UNIX or whatever. There is no excuse for this.
>
> I did not say with just one word that I am responsible for Macs.
> My part is Nextstep and Unix administration. Thanks for insulting
> me in advance.
>
> Furthermore, it is almost impossible to administrate a Mac -
> if you come back two weeks later, the users messed up
> everything you installed.
>
Ever heard of File Guard 3.0? sheesh, how obviously mac-ignorant can you get?
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 18:48:53 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato
Sender: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Message-ID: <ldo-2302961848530001@130.217.96.144>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4f41a8$j2a@pentagon.io.com> <4f4a6t$sns@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4fd9il$ao@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com> <jragosta-1202960855160001@ppp-1007.dca.net> <4g4r1s$lc@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com>
In article <4g4r1s$lc@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com>, mow@navigator.de
(Markus Wenzel) wrote:
>I do not know one single Mac that runs stable in the sense of
>"it runs 24 hours a day for more than two weeks without a hangup".
Well, there's our departmental Quadra 950, which is running 8 different
servers (including AppleShare and FileMaker Pro), and stays up for months
at a time. Then there's my home Centris 650, which stays up for weeks at a
time (until I crash it with one of my own buggy programs).
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do I tell who has accessed my webpage?
Date: 23 Feb 1996 06:10:22 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-04.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4gjloe$s3@usc.edu>
References: <4gc67l$mmf@usc.edu> <Dn2ytK.x4@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
In <Dn2ytK.x4@nexus1.tng.oche.de> Michael Pieper wrote:
> In article <4gc67l$mmf@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N.
> Reichman) writes:
> > Is there a way to automatically log who accesses my webpage(s)? Not
> > a form to be voluntarily filled out, but an automatic full
> > recognition of name@domain, etc. and when?
>
> You will surely not be able to log the name, but if you have access
> to the logfiles of the httpd, you can see, from which domain an when
> an access occured.
>
> If you want complete access logging, you have to use a form.
>
> But why do you post this to c.s.n.s?
I was figuring it was something to do with HTML which would be software. On
the other hand this could've gone into c.s.n.sysadmin.
Anyway - one interesting response was a pointer to:
http://www.ics.uci.edu/WebSoft/wwwstat.
This is a tool that will analyse your access_log file and output an HTML
report.
My only question is, is there a way from the commandline that I can tell
what kind and level of webserver is being used, or do I have to phone my web
sysdamins?
--
Be well,
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From: pbrown@asparagus.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!
Date: 23 Feb 1996 06:46:33 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Message-ID: <4gjns9$gdv@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <jragosta-1202960855160001@ppp-1007.dca.net> <4g4r1s$lc@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com> <ldo-2302961848530001@130.217.96.144>
In article <ldo-2302961848530001@130.217.96.144>,
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
>[Macs that don't crash.]
Power Macs tend to swim on their backs every so often...
pb
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher A. Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb 2 Beta5 - huge speed improvement
Date: 23 Feb 1996 06:45:03 GMT
Organization: WolfWare (http://www.wolfware.com)
Message-ID: <4gjnpf$ed@shellx.best.com>
Just wanted to say that I'm thrilled with the performance increase of OmniWeb 2
beta 5 - it feels close to an order of magnitude faster in displaying web pages
than any of the earlier betas. If you haven't downloaded the latest beta yet
check it out.
--
Christopher Wolf - WolfWare - cwolf@wolfware.com (NeXTmail & MIME accepted)
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From: bresink@infko.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Acrobat
Date: 23 Feb 1996 08:22:10 GMT
Organization: University Koblenz / Germany
Message-ID: <4gjtfi$bas@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>
References: <4gi4nj$917@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) wrote:
> Is there any reader for Acrobat files for the NeXT?
Yes, and NEXTSTEP seems to be the platform with the greatest number of
Acrobat readers. There is
- OmniPDF
- PDFViewer, and
- PDFView.
You'll find them on the Peanuts FTP servers or CD-ROMs
(ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next). Sorry, but I
don't know the address of the mirror in the US.
Marcel
---
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Computer Graphics Lab, Institute for Computer Science
Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany
From: bbum@friday.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How do I tell who has accessed my webpage?
Date: 23 Feb 1996 12:41:52 GMT
Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc.
Message-ID: <4gkcmg$uo@chinx4.thoughtport.net>
References: <4gc67l$mmf@usc.edu> <4gcov7$i9f@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <ZHAO.96Feb21080519@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
#Re: How do I tell who has accessed my webpage?
#by Z. Zhao, Computing Research Lab/New Mexico State University
Matthew N. Reichman (reichman@scf.usc.edu) wrote:
: Is there a way to automatically log who accesses my webpage(s)? Not a form
: to be voluntarily filled out, but an automatic full recognition of
: name@domain, etc. and when?
# httpd doesn't cary remote user information, but only remote
# hostname or IP, browser name, refering path and etc., which is
# different from email and other services. unless the user is in
# your AuthUserFile or asked to input user name for access permission,
# you wouldn't be able to get his/her name recorded.
#
# zhao
As well, the remote hostname/IP address may be that of a firewall-- ie; one
cannot assume that the remote IP address uniquely identifies the user for
even a single session...
b.bum
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opener.app 3.3 stops working suddenly
Date: 22 Feb 1996 23:25:50 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4giu1u$hk1@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <1996Feb21.165512.21165@alw.nih.gov>
ktwu@alw.nih.gov (Kuo-Tsung Wu) wrote:
> My NeXTstation (3.2 user/developer) suffered couple of bad crushs
> lately. Since then Opener.app ceased functioning. Now when I
> click a compressed file, Opener starts up and the curser keeps
> spinning and spinning. I have to kill the process after a while.
> Remove the defaults and reinstall a new copy does not work (I
> might miss something). Any help will be greatly appreciated.
I've seen this trouble when /private/dev is messed up. I do
not know *how* it gets messed up, and it doesn't *look* messed
up, but something is wrong with the tty's or pty's.
What I've done to fix this is reboot in single-user mode, and
login to root on the console. I haven't done this in awhile,
so it'd be advisable that you look thru some documentation to
be sure you're comformtable doing it. *If* I remember right,
what I then do is:
cd /private/dev
rm ptyp* ptyq* ttyp* ttyq*
./MAKEDEV ptyp ptyq
then I sync and reboot. This has cleared up problems for me,
but there could be a better way to do that.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb Spoofs (rant included)
Date: 22 Feb 1996 23:29:55 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4giu9j$hk1@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4gd2s6$fr1@news.internetmci.com> <Dn4uMn.BG8@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
byrnes@virginia.edu (Peter-john Byrnes) wrote:
> They're for sites that auto-configure themselves based on the
> browser accessing them. Some particularly benighted "cutting
> edge" sites read the browser name (given by the browser at part
> of the HTTP protocol) and will give you a page that uses (say)
> the <blink> tag, or frames, if you're using Netscape, and generic
> HTML 2.0 if you're not.
<skipping along>
> Now, as a good net citizen, you should repay the OmniGroup people
> for this clever feature by also bugging the Powers that Be at
> said website, informing them that they're not keeping up with
> browser development, and suggesting they alter the configuration
> of their site to give any OmniWeb 2.0 browser all the eye candy
> your bandwidth can stand. Otherwise, sites like HotWired never
> see any OmniWeb hits (because we're all pretending to be Netscape),
> thereby propagating the notion that "everyone uses Netscape,"
> and my incipient ulcer.
This is exactly the part that bugs me the most. By forcing people
to "announce their browser as Netscape" in order to see the newer
HTML features, it propigates the impression that the only browser
out there is Netscape.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Gerald McMullon <mcmullgf@info.bt.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.multimedia
Subject: Re: ISDN NS driver? Was: VideoConferencing/Collaboration wares-NEXTSTEP
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:16:33 +0000
Organization: currently at BT Labs
Message-ID: <312DDA51.6679@info.bt.co.uk>
References: <3120D12D.1AAC@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <3126D3AB.5812@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <3129137A.739E@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Eric Dubiel wrote:
> SUPPORT FREE SPEECH ON THE 'NET!
What we need is more free speech worth listening too! :)
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2 Beta5 - huge speed improvement
Date: 23 Feb 1996 15:20:47 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <4gkm0f$5ra@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <4gjnpf$ed@shellx.best.com>
cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher A. Wolf) writes:
>Just wanted to say that I'm thrilled with the performance increase of OmniWeb 2
>beta 5 - it feels close to an order of magnitude faster in displaying web pages
>than any of the earlier betas. If you haven't downloaded the latest beta yet
>check it out.
It's just so pleasant to see ISV's praising each others' apps!
--
Steve Weintz * Partner, New Media, Ltd.
P.O. Box 742 * Urbana, IL 61801
steve@dave-world.net * 217.344.5303 * 217.344.8981 fax
Staff Visioneer, Beckman Institute Visualization Facility * indy@uiuc.edu
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How do I tell who has accessed my webpage?
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:25:32 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960223102411.4685A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4gc67l$mmf@usc.edu> <Dn2ytK.x4@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <Dn2ytK.x4@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Michael Pieper wrote:
> You will surely not be able to log the name, but if you have access
> to the logfiles of the httpd, you can see, from which domain an when
> an access occured.
>
> If you want complete access logging, you have to use a form.
>
> But why do you post this to c.s.n.s?
Maybe to see if there was some "software" to do this?
Had it been my question, that is probably where I would have posted it.
Hey, at least it wasn't cross-posted (I don't think....)
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXTStep Swapfile and Swapdisk FAQ: send mail with subject 'send swapfaq'
Other info-via-email available, send mail with subject 'send info'
For information on PPP under NeXTStep <nextppp@listproc.thoughtport.com>
From: tralala@cam.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP and Mail.app
Date: 23 Feb 1996 15:38:20 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada
Message-ID: <4gkn1c$jce@tandem.CAM.ORG>
References: <4gdf1i$v7u@wycliffe.covenant.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4gdf1i$v7u@wycliffe.covenant.edu>
On 02/20/96, Donald N. Petcher wrote:
>
>Is there a seamless way to use PGP with Mail.app? I downloaded
an app called
>NXPGP which offers a service that runs PGP, but then I have to
copy incoming
>mail out of Mail.app and into some other editable window before
I can view
>it. (PGP encoded mail comes in as a MIMI attachment. Double
clicking on the
>icon puts it in Edit.app.) What I would ideally like is a way to
have it set
>up so that essentially all I have to do is give the password in
order to view
>incoming mail, and perhaps a way of having mail to certain
mailing addresses
>always encoded for outgoing mail.
>
>Cheers,
>Don Petcher
>
In my humble opinion, Cryptor.bundle 1.2 is the best of all.
1) It allows you to access your keys via Mail's Info menu.
2) You can set your outgoing mail to be encrypted by default
(using dwrite). In such a case, you must have your recipient's
public keys (of course). If you decide otherwise, all you have to
do is click on the miniature lock icon in Mail's icon ribbon.
3) Your incoming mail (if encrypted) will only be displayed if
you enter your own key.
4) CryptorBundle 1.2 works flawlessly on OS 3.2 and 3.3.
Cheers,
- Andre
From: sl@skynet.oph.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Leuker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Help for X11 for NeXT
Date: 23 Feb 1996 13:22:45 GMT
Organization: RWTH -Aachen / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik
Message-ID: <4gkf35$36h@news.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960212113919.7794A-100000@paros.caspur.it>
Copyright: This message is Copyright (C) 1996 by Stefan Leuker
Lorenzo Stella <stella@paros.caspur.it> wrote:
<DEL>
>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Lorenzo Stella
Get a better signature!
Try
http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~leuker/Xnext/
Xnext is a shareware X11R6 system.
Stefan
From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing recent EOF on top of NS 3.2.
Date: 23 Feb 1996 15:38:35 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gkn1r$bf0@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
Originator: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU
I recent inquired about acrobat readers, and was referred
by many to OmniPDF. Thanks for the replies.
I am running NS 3.2, but I have learned the followinga bout OmniPDF:
** NOTE ** that this uses the Foundation Kit, which means you must
be running NeXTSTEP 3.3, or running NeXTSTEP 3.2 with a recent
version of EOF installed. It will not work on a plain NS-3.2
system, or anything earlier than NS-3.2.
How can I get and install a recent version of EOF on top of NS 3.2?
Thanks.
Tim
--
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Department of Economics Email: tvz@princeton.edu
Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050
Princeton, NJ 08544 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] how to install Latex2e?
Date: 23 Feb 1996 15:44:08 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <4gknc8$ikm@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <4gc00h$gq3@agate.berkeley.edu>
Just wait two more days! I'll put a tripple-FAT (not yet got around to
compile it on SPARC) TeX distribution including LaTeX2e, various other
macro packages etc. pp. on our ftp server. This distribution is indeed
teTeX, compiled and configured for NEXTSTEP, _with_ the IPC patches
(i.e. -v, -V).
As soon as the package is installed on the server, I'll announce it
here! Please be aware, that this first version may still contain some
flaws ;-).
Interesting side note: The IPC stuff is _not_ owned by NeXT
Inc. (according to Tom Rokicki). Indeed it's even included in the
upcoming regular web2c distribution, 7.0 which is now in pretest
(only that nobody but TeXview will use it ;-).
The real copyright problem indeed applies to TeXview. According to
NeXT's utterances, it even seems to be illegal to modify TeXview for
own use. According to the GPL (kpathsearch is now GPLed), it's even
more illegal to modify TeXview for use with kpathsearch.
With the upcoming web2c 7.0, kpathsearch's copyright will change to
LGPL. Then, from the LGPL, it's allowed to used it even with
TeXview. It's then up to NeXT to decide if they tolerate modifications
(i.e. diffs) against TeXview. I for me will then upload my patches to
use TeXview with kpathsearch to peanuts, with an according note!
Hope this helps!
Gregor
PS: Any idea why NeXT doesn't supply `dirname' ???
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From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Acrobat
Date: 23 Feb 1996 03:59:24 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4gje2s$p8s@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4gi4nj$917@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) wrote:
>
> Is there any reader for Acrobat files for the NeXT?
One solution is OmniPDF, which can be found at
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/web/OmniPDF_f/
among other places... There are two other applications which also
do PDF files. I think one was called PDFView.app and the other
was PDFViewer.app.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: bff@csn.net (Brendan Forsyth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT and tcpdump
Date: 23 Feb 1996 19:28:03 GMT
Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado
Message-ID: <4gl4g3$nao@news-2.csn.net>
Has anyone gotten tcpdump and libcap to compile on the NeXT? Or is there
a another product that does the same thing?
Thanks
Brendan
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Automatic application launching and services
Date: 23 Feb 1996 20:19:01 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4gl7fl$31n@news.its.com>
References: <4gfpd8$3ol@jaws.cs.hmc.edu>
jim@roshi.miyazaki-mic.ac.jp (Jim Kieley) wrote:
> I recently restored a full dump to a new disk. Clicking on many documents
> no longer launches the appropriate application. In fact, the normal icons
> associated with most 3rd party application documents are missing.
Sounds like you may have encountered the problem in the restore utility with
the setuid bits. Check NextAnswers for the patch and try restore'ing again.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: dan@opensource.com (Daniel J. Gamble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SNMP agent for NeXTSTEP?
Date: 23 Feb 1996 21:24:38 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Message-ID: <4glbam$ogi@trane.opensource.com>
References: <4ggtji$6np@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
In article <4ggtji$6np@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> chiu7134@sparky.cs.nyu.edu (Chiu
Wen-Shin) writes:
>
> Is there any product available?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Wenshin
Yes, AGeNT from Ridgeback Solutions:
info@ridgeback.com
310.456.6094
--
______________________________________________________
| Dan Gamble | OpenSource, Inc. |
| dan@opensource.com | THE Single Source for |
| (NeXTmail welcome) | NEXTSTEP Solutions |
| | |
|------------------------------------------------------|
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher A. Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2 Beta5 - huge speed improvement
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 23 Feb 1996 20:27:59 GMT
Organization: WolfWare (http://www.wolfware.com)
Message-ID: <4gl80f$gsj@shellx.best.com>
References: <4gjnpf$ed@shellx.best.com> <4gkm0f$5ra@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4gkm0f$5ra@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
On 02/23/96, weintz steven cortelou wrote:
>cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher A. Wolf) writes:
>It's just so pleasant to see ISV's praising each others' apps!
I'm having a hard time deciding if this comment was intended sincerely or
sarcastically.... Just in case it was intended sarcastically let me set the
record straight by saying:
a) WolfWare has absolutely no affiliation with OmniGroup.
b) I can't remember any specific instances of them praising our app so this
isn't a "You scratch our back and we'll scratch yours" situation.
c) I'm a USER of NeXTSTEP as well as a developer and my comment was coming
from a user's perspective. I do 99.5% of my business AND personal work
in the NeXTSTEP environment and don't even have Windows installed on any
of my Intel machines.
There's few enough ISVs left in this market producing general purpose apps... why
shouldn't we as users praise those that do a good job. Besides, OmniGroup has
taken a lot of flak about a product that is still clearly labelled a beta release
(and I admit that betas 1 through 4 were excrutiatingly slow) so somebody needed
to say SOMETHING nice finally :-)
And if your comment was intended sincerely... well thank you :-)
[Followups redirected to comp.sys.next.advocacy]
--
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From: Dino Bagdadi <dino@ex-nihilo.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Latest NcFTP for NS 3.3
Date: 23 Feb 1996 19:11:46 GMT
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gl3hi$210@bud.shadow.net>
Keywords: ncftp
Has anyone compiled the latest version of NcFTP for NS 3.3? If so, could
someone post the binaries and source to the next ftp sites?
Is it possible for any of the NS web browsers to support NcFTP's commands
(especially the command to continue an aborted/failed transfer)? Gentlemen
(Omni, Netsurfer), are you listening?
Thanks.
--
Dino Bagdadi
ex nihilo, inc.
dino@ex-nihilo.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME)
Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@hyper.shadow.net'
From: toddw@radium.ca (Todd White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PS to PDF
Date: 18 Feb 1996 20:05:59 GMT
Organization: ftn Internet
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4g80r7$r3q@master.ftn.net>
References: <4g00j2$5js@news.eecs.umich.edu>
In <4g00j2$5js@news.eecs.umich.edu> Roland Telfeyan wrote:
> This is a dumb question for a NEXTSTEP group -- I know, but I need a PS to
> PDF translator. Is there any such product for NEXTSTEP?
>
> Roland
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Roland Telfeyan http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~telfeyan
> Display Technology & Manufacturing telfeyan@eecs.umich.edu
> Electrical Engineering & Computer Science phone: +1 313 936 0967
> University of Michigan fax: +1 313 936 0347
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
PDF Expression is in Beta right now, and will be available for all NS/OS/NEO
at the end of this Quarter.
It has the complete functionality of the Adobe Acrobat products plus a PDF
Editor which encompasses both Acrobat Exchange functionality and the ability
to edit PDF's natively.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
--
=====================================
Todd White
RADium Technology Centre (Canada)
Todd_White@RADium.ca
NeXT and MIME mail gladly accepted
=====================================
From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing new EOF on top of NS 3.2.
Date: 23 Feb 1996 19:16:59 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gl3rb$h8j@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
Originator: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU
How do I obtain and install an updated EOF on top of NS 3.2?
Thanks.
Tim
--
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Department of Economics Email: tvz@princeton.edu
Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050
Princeton, NJ 08544 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing recent EOF on top of NS 3.2.
Date: 24 Feb 1996 01:24:07 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4glpbn$15j6@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <4gkn1r$bf0@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) wrote:
>
>I recent inquired about acrobat readers, and was referred
>by many to OmniPDF. Thanks for the replies.
>
>I am running NS 3.2, but I have learned the followinga bout OmniPDF:
>
> ** NOTE ** that this uses the Foundation Kit, which means you must
> be running NeXTSTEP 3.3, or running NeXTSTEP 3.2 with a recent
> version of EOF installed. It will not work on a plain NS-3.2
> system, or anything earlier than NS-3.2.
>
>How can I get and install a recent version of EOF on top of NS 3.2?
>
Get WebObjects from http://www.next.com and as a root install
FoundationUserPatch.pkg. That did the trick with my NS 3.2.
Rudy.
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2 Beta5 - huge speed improvement
Date: 24 Feb 1996 01:32:02 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4glpqi$15j6@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <4gjnpf$ed@shellx.best.com>
cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher A. Wolf) wrote:
>Just wanted to say that I'm thrilled with the performance increase of
OmniWeb 2
>beta 5 - it feels close to an order of magnitude faster in displaying web
pages
>than any of the earlier betas. If you haven't downloaded the latest beta
yet
>check it out.
>
>
OK, but is it really fast? Why is Netscape I run under x-win emulation over
the net off a large IBM unix workstation faster? Is it that the disks etc.
are faster on the IBM box, or is it OmniWeb? I have black NeXTstation mono
with 16MB RAM, 1.6GB HDisk and NS 3.2.
Rudy.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2 Beta5 - huge speed improvement
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <Dn9L3G.B5D@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 05:11:40 GMT
References: <4gjnpf$ed@shellx.best.com> <4glpqi$15j6@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4glpqi$15j6@msunews.cl.msu.edu>,
Rudolf B. Blazek < blazek@stt.msu.edu> wrote:
>cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher A. Wolf) wrote:
>>Just wanted to say that I'm thrilled with the performance increase of
>OmniWeb 2
>>beta 5 - it feels close to an order of magnitude faster in displaying web
>pages
>>than any of the earlier betas. If you haven't downloaded the latest beta
>yet
>>check it out.
>>
>>
>
>OK, but is it really fast? Why is Netscape I run under x-win emulation over
>the net off a large IBM unix workstation faster? Is it that the disks etc.
>are faster on the IBM box, or is it OmniWeb? I have black NeXTstation mono
>with 16MB RAM, 1.6GB HDisk and NS 3.2.
>
True, it's not blazing, but also be careful comparing a 25MHz 68040 to just
about any POWER or PPC-based RS/6000.
However, Omni may further improve the speed before it's released. The
difference between 2.0b4 and 2.0b5 is very nice!
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to get the exclude to work with gls?
Date: 24 Feb 1996 07:14:30 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-13.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4gmdsm$a3q@usc.edu>
When I do a
gls -I Mur*
I get only a list of files matching Mur* instead of everything but Mur*.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
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---------------------------------------------------------------
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From: Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Latest NcFTP for NS 3.3
Date: 24 Feb 1996 00:45:42 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gln3m$7d5@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <4gl3hi$210@bud.shadow.net>
In <4gl3hi$210@bud.shadow.net> Dino Bagdadi wrote:
> Has anyone compiled the latest version of NcFTP for NS 3.3? If so, could
> someone post the binaries and source to the next ftp sites?
I just did so a few days ago (posix-free and with ncurses) and encountered
minimal problems, so it seems hardly worth the trouble.
Carl Edman
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: Urlifier.bundle
Date: 24 Feb 1996 11:39:06 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-b-61.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4gmtcq$q88@usc.edu>
Although I can see the little URL at appropriate places in my MIME mail,
double-clicking on it doesn't bring up my browser. Is it supposed to?
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
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Date: 24 Feb 1996 11:17:23 GMT
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From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2 Beta5 - huge speed improvement
Date: 24 Feb 1996 16:23:50 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4gne2m$fof@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <4gjnpf$ed@shellx.best.com> <4glpqi$15j6@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <Dn9L3G.B5D@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote:
>>
>>OK, but is it really fast? Why is Netscape I run under x-win emulation over
>>the net off a large IBM unix workstation faster? Is it that the disks etc.
>>are faster on the IBM box, or is it OmniWeb? I have black NeXTstation mono
>>with 16MB RAM, 1.6GB HDisk and NS 3.2.
>>
>
> True, it's not blazing, but also be careful comparing a 25MHz 68040 to
just
>about any POWER or PPC-based RS/6000.
> However, Omni may further improve the speed before it's released. The
>difference between 2.0b4 and 2.0b5 is very nice!
>
Well, I run the Netscape off an IBM box, but I display it on the some machine
where I run my OmniWeb. Using X-windows emulation.
As I said, there could be some other issues involved. Like that talking to a
www server and putting the whole page together is maybe tougher than just
displaying output in X-windows emulation over the net. Not sure ....
Rudy.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <dchan@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <9602241824.AA00507@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
From: Derek Chan <dchan@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 96 10:24:29 -0800
Subject: Re: PGP and Mail.app
> In my humble opinion, Cryptor.bundle 1.2 is the best of all.
> 1) It allows you to access your keys via Mail's Info menu.
> 2) You can set your outgoing mail to be encrypted by default
> (using dwrite). In such a case, you must have your recipient's
> public keys (of course). If you decide otherwise, all you have to
> do is click on the miniature lock icon in Mail's icon ribbon.
> 3) Your incoming mail (if encrypted) will only be displayed if
> you enter your own key.
> 4) CryptorBundle 1.2 works flawlessly on OS 3.2 and 3.3.
>
> Cheers,
> - Andre
>
I agree, CryptorBundle has a great interface. I installed it but never used
it. I could never figure out how to add additional public keys to it. I was
unsure whether CryptorBundle supported NextMail 3.3 or whether it's me being
stupid (which happens often 8) ).
Also, are there any compatiblity problems with it? I think I remember
reading a post regarding compatiblity issues with other pgp software. I don't
know if this is true or not.
Thanks,
---
Derek Chan
dchan@earthlink.net
(NextMail or MIME - o.k.)
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WODocumentation
Date: 24 Feb 1996 19:01:00 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4gnn9c$4b9@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
Some people seem to be getting a bit, umm, frustrated, with trying to
retrieve the WebObjects documentation over the Web...
I've bundled up as much of it as I can (whilst still remaining sane!) in rtf
and rtfd format and put it in:
ftp://ftp.dcs.shef.ac.uk/home/malc/NeXT/WebObjects/WODocumentation.compressed
(note that this is an automount point, so may not be accessible through a
browser -- if an access attempt fails, please try again using command-line!)
Documents include:
Getting Started
DynamicElements
A Foundation for WebScript Programmers
Using WebScript
Maybe it might be a good idea if NeXT could create an official version of
this...?! :-)
Best wishes,
mmalc.
posn. research facilitator
where institute for language speech and hearing
sheffield university
west court
2 mappin street
sheffield s1 4dt
england
vox (+44) 114 282 5269
fax (+44) 114 278 0972
email m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome
PGP key available on request
http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/research/ilash/
--
From: paul@amber.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP and Mail.app
Date: 24 Feb 1996 13:07:24 -0600
Organization: Me, organized? You must be joking.
Sender: paul@amber.umsl.edu
Message-ID: <x67mxcczkj.fsf@amber.umsl.edu>
References: <4gdf1i$v7u@wycliffe.covenant.edu> <4gkn1c$jce@tandem.CAM.ORG>
In-reply-to: tralala@cam.org's message of 23 Feb 1996 15:38:20 GMT
>>>>> "Andre" == tralala <tralala@cam.org> writes:
Andre> In my humble opinion, Cryptor.bundle 1.2 is the best of
Andre> all.
CryptorBundle has two major flaws (at least when I last looked at it).
1) It encrypts under NextMail, so you can only communicate with other
NeXT owners, and 2) When you decrypt, your mail is decrypted rather
than just displayed - anyone can read it subsequently.
--
--paul http://www.umsl.edu/~psanchez/
[L(aB)FFoDM # {WAL(1,t):t\in(0.5,1]}]
=================================================================
Any father who thinks he's all important should remind
himself that this country honors fathers only one day a
year while pickles get a whole week.
=================================================================
From: Timm Wetzel <me@baloo.mpibpc.gwdg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SNMP agent for NeXTSTEP?
Date: 24 Feb 1996 19:18:07 GMT
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Message-ID: <4gno9f$grm@gwdu19.gwdg.de>
References: <4ggtji$6np@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
chiu7134@sparky.cs.nyu.edu (Chiu Wen-Shin) wrote:
>
> Is there any product available?
>
There is a version coming with the system.
In case it is recent enough for your environment (I seem to recall that there
are two incompatible versions) you can find the installation instructions in
11_MixedNet section of the NextAdmin online manual.
For NS3.3 SimpleNetworkStarter seems to be able to configure SNMP, but
running SNS on a already networked system can be risky...
Timm
--
Timm Wetzel <twetzel@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> <twetzel@gwdg.de>
Max-Planck-Institut fuer biophysikalische Chemie, Abt. 081
Am Fassberg 11, D-37077 Goettingen
From: michael@indigo (Michael Verruto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Icon Builder???
Date: 24 Feb 1996 21:02:00 GMT
Organization: HPI Capital, LLC
Message-ID: <4gnuc8$pdf@corporate.hesta.com>
Does anyone know where I could find a copy of this NeXT .app?
I *used* to have it, but now can't find it...If I can, will it even run under 3.3 on intel?
I am only looking for a *simple* app to use for building custom folder icons here in our office net...
ThankS!
Please e-mail me any suggestions to
michael@hesta.com
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2 Beta5 - huge speed improvement
Date: 24 Feb 1996 07:56:54 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4gmgc7$eb9@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4gjnpf$ed@shellx.best.com> <4glpqi$15j6@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) wrote:
> OK, but is it really fast? Why is Netscape I run under x-win
> emulation over the net off a large IBM unix workstation faster?
> Is it that the disks etc. are faster on the IBM box, or is it
> OmniWeb? I have black NeXTstation mono with 16MB RAM, 1.6GB HDisk
> and NS 3.2.
That black NeXTstation is what, a 25Mhz 68040? (it isn't a turbo
NeXTstation, is it?) Even if it is a turbo, a 33Mhz 68040 isn't
exactly cutting-edge technology.
And the "Large IBM unix workstation" is what chip? How much RAM
does it have?
My guess is that it's not a four or five year old desktop machine
with a mere 16meg in it, which is what that NeXTstation is. My
guess is that has something to do with why it might be a bit faster.
My guess, of course, might be wrong.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Dominik Westner <dominik@gowest.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WODocumentation
Date: 26 Feb 1996 11:16:51 GMT
Organization: TeDoc, Munich, Germany
Message-ID: <4gs4r3$8e@cube.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <4gnn9c$4b9@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
> Some people seem to be getting a bit, umm, frustrated, with trying
to
> retrieve the WebObjects documentation over the Web...
>
> I've bundled up as much of it as I can (whilst still remaining
sane!) in rtf
> and rtfd format and put it in:
>
>
ftp://ftp.dcs.shef.ac.uk/home/malc/NeXT/WebObjects/WODocumentation.co
mpressed
>
> (note that this is an automount point, so may not be accessible
through a
> browser -- if an access attempt fails, please try again using
command-line!)
>
> Documents include:
> Getting Started
> DynamicElements
> A Foundation for WebScript Programmers
> Using WebScript
>
> Maybe it might be a good idea if NeXT could create an official
version of
> this...?! :-)
They do ... maybe you should try:
http://www.next.com:80/Pubs/Documents/WebObjects/Beta1/WODoc.v2.tar.Z
so long
--
Dominik
---
Dominik Westner
"Everything is possible in an infinite universe"
_____________________________________Willi, the painter
Munich, Germany (NOT :-)
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT and tcpdump
Date: 26 Feb 1996 18:21:04 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4gstmg$vh3@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <4gl4g3$nao@news-2.csn.net> <DnDpvH.Csw@cam-ani.co.uk>
In <DnDpvH.Csw@cam-ani.co.uk> Graeme Barnes wrote:
> bff@csn.net (Brendan Forsyth) wrote:
> >Has anyone gotten tcpdump and libcap to compile on the NeXT? Or is there
> >a another product that does the same thing?
> >Thanks
> >Brendan
>
> I hacked together a packet sniffer using NeXTs netif routines and Steve
Perkins
> modified bpf code. The code is very simple and in theory it should have
worked.
>
> However, by declaring my interface as a sniffer, ioctl calls wouldn't work
on it.
> 'ifconfig sn0' (sn0 is my sniffer inteface) returns 'ioctl: no such
interface or
> address'. However it's definitely there as 'netstat -is' quite happily
shows it.
> I do actually get a look at the packets flying by but tcpdump wont work
because
> it uses ioctl calls.
>
> If I declare the interface as virtual, ioctl calls work ok but my sniffer
doesn't
> get a look at packets going over the ethernet. This is quite reasonable.
>
> I tried declaring the interface as both virtual and a sniffer in the hope
that
> this would fool the network code into working both ways, the ioctls stop
working
> again 8-(
>
> If anyone has any ideas how to get around this please let me know,
> Graeme
Well... tcpdump is available for the PPP version of bpf. Check:
ftp.thoughtport.com:/pub/next/ppp
Also, Satoshi Adachi <adachi@wisdom.ap.titech.ac.jp> has a working version
of BPF/TCPDUMP that runs with an ethernet interface. I don't know where the
thing is stored but I have a copy
I'm willing to NeXTMail to any interested parties...
Hope this helps!
- Steve
---
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: 28 Feb 1996 13:01:45 GMT
Organization: Academic and Research Network of Slovenia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4h1jnp$7cp@cmir.arnes.si>
References: <4h0am0$5ea@news1.channel1.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In <4h0am0$5ea@news1.channel1.com> Allan S. MacKinnon wrote:
>
> I'm running the demo CD of OW 2.0 and it seems pretty
> good...
>
> Anyone care to comment about it?
>
Yeah... I like the package, although I'm annoyed by a tiny bug... It does a
touch to every file it opens... Even if you do not make any alterations to
the documents, it still gets a ney time and date stamp...
I'd also like some (not all) of the Microcosoft Word's nifty features...
Jonas
--
*** Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk? ***
Jonas Znidarsic
http://www.jonas.eunet.si
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario Stargard)
Subject: Text only version of NeXTmail?
Message-ID: <DnHo3t.Htw@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:57:29 GMT
I'm looking for a text only version of a NeXTmailer. The point to
this is that when one wants to read mail from home over a modem, one would
like to be able to rummage through Active.mbox without having the deleted
messages reappearing if they haven't been expunged. I already use pine
but it doesn't read the NeXT mailbox like NeXTMail. If you use pine to
read the mbox file, it mucks with it and your deleted messages reappear.
Anyone found a good solution to this?
--
Mario Stargard | NeXTMail Welcome, MIME Tolerated
School of Optometry | http://quark.uwaterloo.ca/~mario
University of Waterloo |
Waterloo, Ontario | "Press ctrl-alt-del to log on."
Canada, N2L 3G1 | -- WinNT 3.51 Logon screen
From: wixy@micron.net (Wixy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: $39 for 10,000 software titles !!
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 07:26:31 GMT
Organization: Micron Internet Services
Message-ID: <4gu833$n4m@is05.micron.net>
Over 10,000 titles of software for only $39 !!!
MS Excel, Aldus Pagemaker, Quicken, Doom and
thousands more!!! Full working copies, registered
to you...not demos or shareware !!
Mention "software"
E-mail reply or call 208-454-5554
From: knguyen@callisto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CD-I app.
Date: 26 Feb 1996 14:55:12 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gshkg$aqu@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Hi all,
Is there any application on the net for CD-I (a CD-I player) ?
Thanks a lot,
Khanh
From: ytakeshi@o.cc.titech.ac.jp (Takeshi Yanagisawa 2706)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT and tcpdump
Date: 28 Feb 1996 10:08:25 GMT
Organization: Computer Center, Tokyo Institute of Technology, JAPAN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <YTAKESHI.96Feb28190825@sc4.o.cc.titech.ac.jp>
References: <4gl4g3$nao@news-2.csn.net> <DnDpvH.Csw@cam-ani.co.uk>
<4gstmg$vh3@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
In-reply-to: perkins@cps.msu.edu's message of 27 Feb 1996 03:21:04 +0900
In article <4gstmg$vh3@msunews.cl.msu.edu> perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) writes:
> Also, Satoshi Adachi <adachi@wisdom.ap.titech.ac.jp> has a working version
> of BPF/TCPDUMP that runs with an ethernet interface. I don't know where the
> thing is stored but I have a copy
They can be found at:
ftp://ftp.aa.ap.titech.ac.jp/pub/adachi/bpf_NeXT/bpf_NeXT-0.25-beta.tar.gz
They work on both Black NeXT and Intel.
(On Intel machine, there are some problems but they work well on
practical level. Please read the documents included, otherwise contact
with S. Adachi via e-mail.)
--
Takeshi Yanagisawa ($BLxBt(B $B9d(B) <yanagisw@o.cc.titech.ac.jp>
Dept. of Applied Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology,
Meguro-ku, Tokyo 152, Japan
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Text only version of NeXTmail?
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 16:20:30 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960228130402.24553F-100000-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <DnHo3t.Htw@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Mario Stargard wrote:
> I'm looking for a text only version of a NeXTmailer. The point to
> this is that when one wants to read mail from home over a modem, one would
> like to be able to rummage through Active.mbox without having the deleted
> messages reappearing if they haven't been expunged. I already use pine
> but it doesn't read the NeXT mailbox like NeXTMail. If you use pine to
> read the mbox file, it mucks with it and your deleted messages reappear.
> Anyone found a good solution to this?
There just isn't a way.
There should be, but there isn't.
I'd be willing to beta-test the hell out of anything someone comes up
with, but so far no one has (and I've asked a lot).
NeXT seems to be ignoring this need, which many would say is not
uncommon... I can't say because this is the only thing I've really wished
they would come out with. When I have gotten email from people at NeXT
about various problems, they have been quite helpful. Maybe they would
be helpful if someone tried to undertake this task?
I only have access to this account via telnet, so I end up always using
'PINE', and have to jump through hoops to read NeXTmail, send NeXTMail,
can't send read receipts, etc.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles,
swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ,
and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ipaschke@xlan.hil.de (Ingo Paschke)
Subject: Re: DOOMII Fails on Launch
Message-ID: <DnE84I.xy@xlan.hil.de>
Organization: private
References: <4gq4dt$3au@cabinboy.studio.disney.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:19:30 GMT
Hi!
rruth@studio.disney.com (Richard Ruth) writes:
>When I double click on the DoomII icon in the File Viewer,
>the icon appears on the bottom of the screen for about 1/2
>second and then DoomII quits. The following is left in the
>console:
>Call to host_processor_set_priv() failed: invalid port(-102)
>Running with standard scheduling policy.
>framebuffer encoding: RRRRGGGGBBBB----
>bitsPerSample: 4 bitsPerPixel: 16
>Game mode indeterminate.
You need to have a doom-wad-File, for example "doom1.wad" or "doom2.wad",
either the shareware or the commercial one. The wad-File must be V1.8 or
higher.
If you got one, just place it in the app-wrapper.
Ciao,
Ingo.
--
Ingo Paschke
Braunschweig, Germany
[MIME, Nextmail welcome.]
From: rruth@studio.disney.com (Richard Ruth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DOOMII Fails on Launch
Date: 25 Feb 1996 16:57:32 GMT
Organization: Walt Disney Studios
Message-ID: <4gq4dt$3au@cabinboy.studio.disney.com>
I am attempting to have DoomII.app for NEXTSTEP execute on
my NeXTStation Color. I down loaded the app and wad files
from the Omnigroup site.
When I double click on the DoomII icon in the File Viewer,
the icon appears on the bottom of the screen for about 1/2
second and then DoomII quits. The following is left in the
console:
Call to host_processor_set_priv() failed: invalid port(-102)
Running with standard scheduling policy.
framebuffer encoding: RRRRGGGGBBBB----
bitsPerSample: 4 bitsPerPixel: 16
Game mode indeterminate.
My system:
NeXTStation Color (with Pyro)
NEXTSTEP 3.3 (including NeXT's patch for 3.3)
32Mb RAM
have /usr/shlib/libInterceptor_s.A.shlib (minor version 20)
Any suggestions for making DoomII work would be greatly appreciated.
--
Richard
rruth@studio.disney.com
(NeXT-Mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker)
Subject: OWL - how do I load disk images?
Message-ID: <DnCsxF.GnG@waldo.com>
Sender: hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker)
Organization: The WaldoNet Group
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 22:53:39 GMT
I downloaded the BBC emulator Owl and a couple of disk images. Unfortunately, I
can't seem to get them to load properly (i.e. at all!).
Could someone explain to me how to do this? Thanks
Matt
--
__ | Matthew Hocker, B.Eng (McGill) |
/\_\ | "Believer in all things well-engineered" | BMW CCA #124947
\/_/ | hocker@waldo.com | AOPA #012475939
NeXTSTEP! | NeXTmail and MIME welcomed here | PP-ASEL Student
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: 28 Feb 1996 17:06:48 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4h2238$130a@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <4h0am0$5ea@news1.channel1.com>
In <4h0am0$5ea@news1.channel1.com> Allan S. MacKinnon wrote:
>
> I'm running the demo CD of OW 2.0 and it seems pretty
> good...
>
> Anyone care to comment about it?
>
> ASM
Well... I'm not sure yet. I ordered it a long time ago (don't like to run
things in demo mode). However, it has not yet arrived. Anybody have a
release version?
- Steve
---
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Message-ID: <1996Feb28.173114.46074@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 28 Feb 96 17:31:14 MET
References: <4h0am0$5ea@news1.channel1.com>
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
In article <4h0am0$5ea@news1.channel1.com>, allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan S. MacKinnon) writes:
> I'm running the demo CD of OW 2.0 and it seems pretty
> good...
>
> Anyone care to comment about it?
>
> ASM
--
I have the academic version of OW 2.0 and am absolutely disappointed
with it. There are a lot of great features, but for international
users (german in my case), a Wordprocessor without a functional
hyphenation cannot be used (no automatic hyphenation, and no
possibility to input 'soft hyphens' via keyboard (this is even
better in WriteNow 2.0)
So I have to wait until this bug gets fixed :-(
***************************************************************
Daniel Haas
Physikalisches Institut
Universitaet Basel
email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please)
smail: D. Haas, Kreuzstrasse 150, D-79540 Loerrach, Germany
homepage: http://www1.psi.ch/~haasd/home.html
(incl. links to magic, search pages and more)
***************************************************************
"Bill Gates wife has informed him that the deployment of
Bill Gates IV has been delayed for another 6 months due to
a redesign of the user interface."
***************************************************************
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: URGENT HELP! file recovery
Date: 28 Feb 1996 17:07:27 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <4h224f$o7a@news.tamu.edu>
Does anyone know of a way to recover files after they have been DESTROYED
from the NS Workspace - a utility I can get, a company that will do it?
I've heard of a company called Cactus Software(?) that has a utility
called lontar(?) that might can help but I don't know how to contact them.
Please respond if you know of anything...
Stephen Johnson
srjohnson@tamu.edu
409-696-9463
From: graeme@cam-ani.co.uk (Graeme Barnes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT and tcpdump
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:45:16 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd
Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk
Message-ID: <DnDpvH.Csw@cam-ani.co.uk>
References: <4gl4g3$nao@news-2.csn.net>
bff@csn.net (Brendan Forsyth) wrote:
>Has anyone gotten tcpdump and libcap to compile on the NeXT? Or is there
>a another product that does the same thing?
>Thanks
>Brendan
I hacked together a packet sniffer using NeXTs netif routines and Steve Perkins
modified bpf code. The code is very simple and in theory it should have worked.
However, by declaring my interface as a sniffer, ioctl calls wouldn't work on it.
'ifconfig sn0' (sn0 is my sniffer inteface) returns 'ioctl: no such interface or
address'. However it's definitely there as 'netstat -is' quite happily shows it.
I do actually get a look at the packets flying by but tcpdump wont work because
it uses ioctl calls.
If I declare the interface as virtual, ioctl calls work ok but my sniffer doesn't
get a look at packets going over the ethernet. This is quite reasonable.
I tried declaring the interface as both virtual and a sniffer in the hope that
this would fool the network code into working both ways, the ioctls stop working
again 8-(
If anyone has any ideas how to get around this please let me know,
Graeme
--
______________________________________________________________________________
Graeme Barnes : Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd : Tel. (+44) 1223 578100
Principal Software : 20 Cambridge Place, Cambridge : Fax. (+44) 1223 578101
Engineer : Cambs CB2 1NR, UK : graeme@cam-ani.co.uk
From: jfosback@speedy.nwest.mccaw.com (Jason Fosback)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PopOver: Mail Retrieval Defaults and Behavior
Date: 26 Feb 1996 18:48:58 GMT
Organization: AT&T Wireless Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <4gsvaq$clk@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com>
Marc Salvatori <salvo@accessone.com> wrote:
> Using V1.4(v62), I am able to seamlessly pull mail from
> more than one site. Is there a default setting that
> allows me to set whether or not a mail host is enabled?
Mail hosts can be enabled/disabled at runtime; that information is not
persisted, however. Too many people found that they forgot they had
disabled their mail host, and went long periods of time without
retrieving mail.
> Also, for a given list of mail hosts, does PopOver
> retrieve mail from each site synchronously, starting with
> the first on the list? Or does it pull mail
> asynchronously? Because NeXTMail does not sort mail
> using the "To:" header element, synchronous mail would
> be an acceptable alternative.
It pulls mail synchronously, from each site in order (the order they
appear in the hosts panel). The mail retrieved is appended to your
spool file immediately after PopOver finishes retrieving from the
current host.
Hope this answers your questions!
-jason
From: levman@localnet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: The Enema within
Date: 26 Feb 1996 05:45:14 GMT
Organization: LocalNet Corporation
Message-ID: <4grhda$1s1@prometheus.localnet.com>
To all my netizen friends:
I have a NeXT. Mine is black hardware. I have a 21' monitor and 400 meg internal
drive. I believe in my machine and read this news group. Though Jobs never saw it,
I free lanced a great marketing strategy for NeXT. I named the b&w model, the Orca
Kriller Baby. The color model, (like mine), I named, the Colorful Cachalot, after the
sperm whale. The three main slogans were, "The Rolls Royce Machines with the
Model T price", "The Platform for Individual and World Wide Designs", and,
"Today's Machine for Tomorrow's Technology". The main metaphor, in all the ad
copy was, In a sea of information these machines crunch through data the way
whales eat herring. . . . . by the ton". All the ads had a sperm whale on the monitor,
swishing by a bunch of open windows. How I planned the distribution would have
made Jobs into a billionaire, but then you wouldn't be reading this with vanilla
hardware-evryone would be using black. OK. I'm jealous of vanilla, sort of. I could
get into my clickedy NeXT keyboard with the Alpha chip secretly running the show.
So onward. This post is here because i plan on having my NeXT in the oval office.
Find out why they killed my friend Danny Casalaro, at the end of this letter to you.
I'm a candidate for President of USA. When I post my drug platform you are no doubt
going to want to join my campaign, whether you have ever used any drugs or not,
because I have worked out a world solution to the prob limb. I have analyzed the
election laws and have devised a way to put ten thousand dollars in your pocket,
walkin around money, as one of my reps, and leave me wiith enough bucks to
expose the fascists on TV, but I might not live that long as I am targeted by
Stassi-USA, my name for the fascist domestic intelligence op, that brought us Waco
and Ruby Ridge. So read, whether you could use an additional ten grand or not,
because I want to live. I'm entitled to that..
You saw me a week ago, on Charles Osgood, and again, last tuesday, my 15
seconds of fame was on the ABC News. You might haave seen me getting ripped
off, on America's talking, onJanuary 16. For every prob limb facing our nation I
have an innovative non -partisan solution.
I will post my platform, The Lev Deal, soon. Something else first.
Your government, those volks from Stassi-USA, the dudes connected with those
triggers at Waco and Ruby Ridge, are at the stage of talking, just talking now, about
some more extreme prejudice, against an American citizen, one of your not quite
known candidates for President, and, the same as in the Danny Casalaro matter, the
Stassi-USA has begun to harass me, a bona fide candidate for President, with
cryptic phone calls-messages left on my voice mail box -just when I step out the
house for a few minutes-suddenly it's the FBI announcing they are FBI and they will
be getting back to me later.
The agent's name-that left in my voice mail box -is not associated with the Buffalo
office of FBI, as the man announces in his message-it is a cryptic, hidden message
they were leaving me-that I should drop out of politics altogether, or we, the
Stassi-USA are going to smear your character.
These fascist scummies are very liberal. Just like with Danny Casalaro, they are
letting me know, in advance, that whatever happens, I will not be allowed to speak
during the campaign for the presidency, and as long as I am going to keep pushing
on my First Amendment rights, only harm will befall me.
My response is to them is to push that much harder, thus my first posting.
I have provided the access codes to my voice mail box one person on the net,
known as, John Q. Public, who I have read around in all the political news groups,
and who I actually accidentaly met up with, in the flesh, and I have personally
challenged him to listen to the FBI harrasment on my voice mail box, for himself.
That FBI message is followed by one, not directly connected to FBI, from Robert
Baker, of the FCC. The slimy bureaucrat is telling me that the PBS station's counter
offer of five minutes to my proposed New Hampshire two hour speech, that followed
by a second request for one hour of access, was on the table.....in other words, an
affirmative right to access, exercised by the other candidates, is not my right.
Though I am a United States citizen, born here, so qualified to run for President, my
first amendment rights to political speech are/have been stripped away by this
fascist bureaucracy. Even a write-in candidate is entitled to access, though I am the
only citizen ever to have actually crossed the FCC threshold of being certified a true
bona fide write-in candidate.
Now they are busy rewriting the rules to insure my broadcast rights will continue to
be denied. What the FCDC jerk is saying, on my voice mail, is that the states where
I got on the ballot aren't enough-you can smell the fascist in his voice-now there are
additional requirements-and the Internet, as a campaign vehicle that can level the
political field, does not count. Got that.
The new threshold is that I have to physically travel to your state and .....then what?
Give a speech on a street corner. For who.? How do I prove to the fascists that I was
there. Can't. Now you can understand why I want to send you my recorded 58
minute speech.
What you will find from that is I am an inspired man who could, given the chance,
show you the way to a 6 hour day, 4 day week, 7 month year, with enough for a
spouse and two kids. Or explain how to cut your rent in half and begin the slow
disinflation of the world's economy so that in 40 years beer cost a nickle and space
travel is free, with every line a derlicate sensible rhyme. And give you this info in a
mull tie lingual format, running and punning in every spoken tongue, as above, with
every line a delicate sensible rhyme.
If Bob Dole wanted an hour or two from PBS, to make a speech, the door is open and
the time is his bacause that is the law. But not Michael Stephen Levinson.
I don't have any right to make any speech on TV. Only the others have that
affirmative right to access which they mostly use for 30 sec. ads, though the law was
written and enacted for substantive speech.
I also submitted my one hour studio taped speech to PBS, in Virginia, and they are
running their own fascist confusion of reality, as we speak, in order to continue the
denial of my rights, until something happens to me .
The PBS Virginia-Langely attorney writes, Without reaching the question of whether
you are a nationally qualified candidate, you have not yet complied with our
proceedures for scheduling access requests, and we cannot distribute any
programming on your behalf until you do so. This is in writing. The FCC jerk on my
phone claims he talked with the PBS volks and Jews and Dogs need not alpply for
First Amendment rights to speech.
Very tricky. Everything is delay delay delay ubntil the primary is past and
then-tough luck sucker. Without recognizing my bona fides, as a legally qualified
candidate, any satellite distribution of my speech merely goes over the air without
even being downloaded onto tape, for broadcasting anywhere. My speech would be
down loaded for FBI domesrtic Stassi-USA purposes only. So how do I get them to
write down their fascistic crap on paper so I can begin the thankless task of
challenging them. And how long before they raise the ante on their veiled telephone
threats and wipe me out altogether, because they aren't playing.
I would love to make a copy of my one hour speech available to all of the readers of
this post. You could then, upon viewing, submit it to your local access channel. I
can't. The only people with access to the community channels are those people in
the community who subscribe. It's all very tricky. These access channels were all
spun off from the Cable stations, to be ultimately under funded and mismanaged into
oblivion. The fascist FBI-Stassi hand in this, though hidden, was/is-to limit access
by individuals for political sprechens.
Were you able to see fresh faces in our pallah tics, you might get a feel for some
other candidate for an important federal office, like President, or congress, and
vote for them or give them a hand in their campaigns. Originally local access meant
local, professionally operated studios, with programs originating in the communities.
Spinning them off was a mistake, obviously, from my point of view, a fascist plot.
The access law, on which the must carry element of all those political commercials
is based, was written for speech. Telecommunications 312(a)(7) states the station
can have its license revoked for the willful and repeated failure to allow access. PBS
is under the same access law. So you don't have to compromise your integrity,
begging money to run, and the PBS doors are supposed to be open to political
speech.
Could it be that I am the only citizen in America who understands this. Michael
Stephen Levinson, 87 FCC2d, 433, 1980; (there are two versions of this case-one
they sent me in the mail, and the other one they printed in law books that was fatally
flawed-this to discourage anyone from ever examining this First Amendment issue
my original complaint shows.
The most recent, Michael Steven Levinson (note they willfully misspell my middle
name-to discourage access via electronic data base) is from 1992. When Tom
Brokaw had the debate with the six democrats, at the end Gerry Brown was going
1-800-me me me....I wrote a request for access, to NBC, and PBS, pointing out I was
entitled to parity, and as long as they were not on the ballot in ten states (the
arbitrary FCC threshold) then why should I have to be on the ballot in ten states.
Get The New York Slimes, from January 16, 1992. Maureen Dowd had a front page
article: Immersing Himself in Nitty-Gritty, Bush Barnstorms New Hampshire, that line
appeared beneath a picture of Bush petting a cow in some New Hampshire barn.
Dowd writes: Swinging Wildly: "Mr. Bush started out apologetic but he ended up
swinging wildly at opponents on the left and right, using his high pitched campaign
voice and what he has called his "red meat" vocabulary. "He lashed out at
"mournful pundits," "egg head academicians," "smart aleck columnists" (and)
"jacklegs jumping up demanding equal time with some screwy scheme."
Who put my request for access on the President's desk back in '92-is that a scary
compliment? (would that have set you back on your heels) I sought my own time-not
e quill time as Bush mischaracterized my request, as there isn't any e quill time
because everything the networks do is exempt. All of Perot's speeches could have
been delivered for free on PBS, but Ross' media advisors forgot to tell him that.
I was entitled to make a nationwide speech and this was suppressed and I waited
two and a half years for FCC to finally rule with their fascistic slime, and I
immediately appealed in the Dist. of Columbia Circuit-and now to the Supreme
"Coat, where I hang barely by a thread."
Three days after I filed in the Court of Appeals, a government person came to
Belleville, Wisconsin, where I was hanging out, and photographed me, and then he
photographed my car. Three weeks later the same dude showed up where I was
working, just after I left for breakfast (I was semi-independent), claiming he'd heard
from one of my friends, who was a friend of his, that I was selling my car, and that
was why he was there (sure; my 1985 Dodge Charger, with 187,000 miles on it at
the time was a hot car to be looking to purchase, and he had a cellular phone so he
got a call letting him know when I was finishing eating, and he was gone.
I didn't have any friends in Wisconsin. I was merely living there, without roots put
down. This is your government's way of letting me, the citizen know that they, the
FBI, for whatever their reasons, don't like me, (or you), and that they know who you
are (I am) and where and when you go to and fro.
As far as the highest court goes, I reached the Conference level, but it is veddy
skeddy. They don't hear any case they don't read about first, in The Wall Street
Gurgle, or The New York Slimes. I said to a clerk: This is scary. The clerk blurted
out, Yes it is.
But I digress all over the place, and why not , when FBI is getting ready- at least
talking about -another Casalaro to cover their slime.
I had a website. Recently I had a dispute with my provider who accused me of
spamming. Spamming, from my point of view, is a million emails-not a couple
hundred queries-so he erased my pages or removed them. As soon as I reestablish
my web site somewhere else I will let all know where you can see pages from a
prophetic work of art that was written down in multi-lingual form by a man who
walked and talked with [ the lan lord uh pin heaven ] (don't fret-such an experience
had to happen to some buddy who would then be into re-ledgend-a retelling of all the
ancient stories) that was written down in design to perform on world wide television,
like old blind Homer, for all the world's peoples to see, listen to and, interactively be
a part of all at once, via the AT&T, ITT natch a rill rig up.
Heavy duty. World pizza. every buddy getz a slice. The recitration of a prophetic
work of art where every major event of the century was foretold in advance becomes
DEUTERONOMY, a whole new bookie, the laying down of the law-you lay
down-relax-sit back, like a God, get set-get yer television set
in yer living room and the inspired Homeric one tells his own vision-it don't cost
nuthin to listen-and delivers a dusk until dawn twelve our video trans crypt world
thriller. What's wrong with a world vid cultural event that qualifies, politically, as the
first peaceful night in five thousand years of recorded history.
That would be the first peaceful night in five thousand years of recorded history
because everyone would be doing the same thing at the same time-watchin TV.
Even the most alienated person would tune in to see what everyone else is doing.
Start with the creation-Adman and Even in the Gar Den ov Edum. You saw me on
ABC News last Tuesday night, in New Hampshire-I'm watchable. With giant
concepts like the one haphazardly expressed above, of course the Washington
control freaks have someone surreptiously watching me like a hawk. Stay with me
because I am going to expose the whole Casalaro business rye-cheer, including the
pipeline from The Washington Post, where Casalaro brought his synopsis and signed
his own death warrant.
But , getting back, could I ask for your vote based on one five minute sprechen. Of
course not. I requested two hours for a major address. There are giant issues facing
our nation. You are entitled to spend an evening with the person who could send
your children to war, the day after election.
Before the primary opened in New Hampshire, my phone was ringing from the
Secretary of State's office in New Hamp. Was I going to run for president, and would
I be coming up on the first day because lots of local reporters wanted to interview
me. So I did it.
I'm on the docket in the United States Supreme Court, hanging by a thread: No
95-5876. The case is against the FCC, and behind them WGBH, in Boston, and the
New Hampshire NHPTV. It won't be heard so your rights are surely being disolved.
Ok Danny Casalaro. Here is why they murdered my friend. In the mid eighties, the
govt. stopped printing a limited giant book that contained the names and addresses
of every person getting a check from the Federal government. This book was
available to Members of the House and Senate, and a few of the agencies. The info
is out there, but with the rise of computers, they stopped snail printing that particular
volume.
Does the federal gov use electronic depositing. It used to be, that direct deposit of a
social security check meant that a physical check was delivered to the actual bank
for processing. Are you ready: With INSLAW software the direct deposits can be
quickly separated from the other 30-50,000,000 checks going out every month.
Then, using INSLAW, that super powerful search software, access the nationwide
white pages, which are now on CD rom.
Guess what dummies? There are 57,000 checks going out, every month, being
directly deposited where there isn't anyone in the local telephone book, or even
unlisted, to match up with the bank account. Whoops.
For that the scum bags murdered poor Danny. To protect the 57,000 little fascists
making a living giving FALSE WITNESS about ordinary people, to justify their
domestic above-the-law intelligence bank account. Family. 57,000 fake bank
accounts, into which are directly deposited your tax dollars. Danny Casalaro was on
the edge of it-just starting to see why the governmemnt tried to kill the INSLAW
company by stealing their search software and playing hardball-when he signed his
own death warrant by bringing his synopsis up to the Washington Post, a noose
paper famous from Watergate.
He handed his synopsis over to one Joanne Aramao, who is or was The
Washington Post City Desk Editor. She copied it and gave itr to her husband, Larry
Mcniece, who works in a print shop-they tell me-outside of Washington. The two of
them are a Stassi team and have been connected to domestic intelligence since
they were students at the State University of Buffalo where the both of them were
working for the student newspaper, The Spectrum, as undergraduates. McNiece is
easily exposed. You come to Buffalo and I will show you his FBI photographic
handiwork.
Then, under Freedom of Information Act you check out the files of people whose
pics he took and see the Joanne Aramao's husband's picturesas thewy were taken
to be placed in that person's files.
As soon as my name appeared in Time Mag, on December 18, 1995,as a poet, from
Buffalo, N.Y. with a jobs program Larry, Jo-anne Aramao's husband was on the
phone to his superiors, telling them I could be a prob limb in a big way, because I
could expose and identify both him and his wife.
As an undergraduate, she became editor-in-chief of The Spectrum, and HOWIE
KURTZ, the Wash Toast medja critic, was her protog. In the early eighties, after I
left buffalo, N.Y., coincidenrtally, so did Jo-anne Aramao and Larry McNiece. She
called in the chits, and Howie got her a job at the Post. Kurtz is not involved except
that he does not like Michael Stephen Levinson because one of the deals, years
ago, when he became the editor of The Spectrum, was that he was NOT to print any
thing written by your humble poet. That was the word that came from the back room
of the paper, where Larry McNiece stayed on working, after graduating. Anyone
Post connected now begins to understand why I am badmouthed in the Post
newsroom-not that I am the main topic for anything there except for someone to say
that I am not worth covering.
This is the good ship mother earth. Whatever deck you live on, the cards are dealt
out evenly. When it comes time to change the course of human history, on the good
ship mother earth, all the world cries out for, is a spokesman, a spokes person, to
turn the wheel. You can quote me.
I don't have any ax to grind with these fascist scummies.: Joanne Aramao and her
little Hitler husband, Larry. They have to live with themselves, knowing forever that
were it not for them Casalaro might still be a father to his son. I have spent fifteen
years simply trying to give a speech. Where ever I have ever gone there is always
someo9ne there to say, "Not you, Mr. take a walk. you are not allowed to speak:
Nightwatch on the ship's prow
The stars are out in disorder.
Everything ever been seen
By the naked eye
Is out tonight.
Michael Stephen Levinson
My next post will have planks in my platform, the innovative solutions I bring to our
highest office. Peace.
From: Alexander.Hauer@ifr.luftfahrt.uni-stuttgart.de (Alexander Hauer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.ibm.pc.video,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Q: Good Display Adapter for Pentium 120 using co-Xist
Date: 28 Feb 1996 14:44:15 GMT
Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG
Message-ID: <4h1pnv$t6q@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <4guttt$357o@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
Hi Folks,
I would like to ask you gurus for an advice which diplay adaptor to
buy.
Currently we have an ATImach64 PCI 2MB DRAM in a 120 MHz Pentium System
with 32MB Ram running NS3.3 with an EIZO F563-T and the performance is
not very satisfying, neither the display-quality nor the display-speed.
We are using the ATImach64 Display-driver V3.35 for NS3.3 which is
currently in beta state. The NXBench NXFactor is 0.38 in 16Bit mode and
1.11 in 8bit mode with the 1024 x 768 resolution.
Unfortunately we have to use co-Xist to run X11 Applications and
co-Xist does not support the RGB 256/8 mode of the display driver and
the RGB 555/16 bit mode is awfully slow.
So we think about switching the Display Adaptor.
The hardware seems to be fine when running DOS the monitor testimage
looks quite fine.
Please send your advices also by email because I can't allways read
this newsgroup.
Thanks in advance
Cheers
Alex.
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Systemadministration and Flight Control
Phone: (+49)711-121-1432 University of Stuttgart, Forststrasse 86
Fax: (+49)711-634856 D-70176 Stuttgart
From: "Andrew R. Miller" <andy.miller@apertus.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!!
Date: 26 Feb 1996 06:41:14 GMT
Organization: Telstra
Message-ID: <4grkma$jat@cdn_news.telecom.com.au>
References: <3114638E.7F02@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4f2seh$epe@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4g4r1s$lc@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com>
mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) wrote:
[snip]
> I do not know one single Mac that runs stable in the sense of
> "it runs 24 hours a day for more than two weeks without a hangup".
I used to administer a mixed network of macs, pcs, and unix
machines. Once a month (when I did complete system backups) I
would reboot the mac and unix file servers. They both ran
flawlessly in between.
-=-=- -=-=- -=-=- -=-=- -=-=- -=-=- -=-=- -=-=- -=-=- -=-=- -=-=-
Andrew R. Miller
andy.miller@apertus.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pdepuydt@uia.ua.ac.be. (Peter Depuydt)
Subject: NeXTGUI frontend to IRC ?
Message-ID: <DnELrA.H2F@uia.ua.ac.be>
Sender: news@uia.ua.ac.be (News database)
Organization: U.I.A. University of Antwerp
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 22:13:58 GMT
Hello NeXT commune ..
I am looking for an GUI to irc ...
Greets
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Student Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
University of Antwerp | NeXTSTEP 3.3 using PPP2.2
Belgium (Europe) | http://www.uia.ac.be/u/pdepuydt
==============================================================
The NeXTSTEP is the only step forward
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FAQ? TeXEdit & lack of Emacs keybindings on Intel
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 27 Feb 1996 13:19:35 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gv0d7$jgb@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <4gr904$402@styx.uwa.edu.au>
Leigh Smith (leigh@antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au) wrote:
: I know I've seen past postings on the question of where Dmitri Linde is
: now located, and if an update is possible to get Emacs key bindings on the
: Intel version of TeXEdit 3.0 (part of InstantTeX 3.1). Can anyone fill me
: in on any further support of TeXEdit.app?
In the next two days, I'll put a quad-FAT binary of InstantTeX on the
ftp archives. Dmitri had to cease development, but he was so kind to
hand me over his sources.
This new version (3.1b) will have Emacs keybindings working for all
four architectures!
Gregor
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From: rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC for black hw?
Date: 26 Feb 1996 21:51:55 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <4gta1r$37o@news.iastate.edu>
References: <DnDtM2.8CI@isltd.insignia.com>
In article <DnDtM2.8CI@isltd.insignia.com> ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
writes:
> In article <4gev3b$8d@turbocat.snafu.de> dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David
> Wetzel) writes:
> > Hello!
> >
> > I am looking for SoftPC for black hardware. I want to use the "DINFO2"
> CD.
> > Is there a demo of SPC 4.0 or greater available for black hardware?
>
>
> Sorry, Black hardware isn't supported for version 4.0.
>
> The last release on blak hardware was 3.0.
>
> 4.0 and 4.1 are Intel only releases.
>
> Ian
> [Who doesn't get to make policy decisions on this stuff :-(]
SoftPC 3.0 for NeXT is available on the Fall 93 Third-Party CD which came
with NEXTSTEP 3.2. Since then, only SoftPC for Intel has been distributed
on the Third-Party CD...
The SoftPC 3.0 demo runs for 20 minutes then quits. You can run it over
and over, but only 20 minutes consecutively. Unfortunately, this does not
give you much time! I was not able to get WordPerfect 6.0 for Windows
installed on my NeXTstation Turbo in under 20 minutes, so I gave up.
I believe that Insignia charges $600 for a SoftPC 3.0 for NeXT license,
while they only charge $300 for a SoftPC 4.1 for Intel license.
--
Rod Ragner, UNIX Systems Administrator/NEXTSTEP Application Developer
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine,
Iowa State University, 2630 Vet. Med. Bldg., Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-6961 or 3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Indexing Kit ignores .mbox -- workaround??
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:57:47 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Feb26.085747.19006@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4gqua0$4jc@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In article <4gqua0$4jc@news.acns.nwu.edu> jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W.
Burton) writes:
> Alternatively, if it is impossible to descend a directory tree
> with an .mbox suffix in ixbuild (can this really be true?!), is
> there any known way to search forty or fifty mailboxes at once
> from within Mail.app 3.3? Any advice appreciated....
Your mail address doesn't work.
I don't know about the Librarian part, but a couple of weeks ago a new
version of MailSearch, which works with 3.3, was released. This was
posted
to csn.announce.
Paul
--
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http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: buckley@mayo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: generating NeXT mail. Was: Re: How to rebuild table_of_contents without Mail.app
Date: 20 Feb 1996 19:44:06 GMT
Organization: LanMinds, Internet Service Provider (Not responsible for content)
Message-ID: <4gd8a6$1mt@lanshark.lanminds.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960215105021.19335L-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960215105021.19335L-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
On 02/14/96, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
>Hmmm... does anyone else see this as yet another reason why there
>should be a commandline version of Mail.app available? With the
>ability to read/send NeXTMail and MIME mail, as well as all the
>other compatibilities for working properly?
Seems there should be a unix/command line way to construct a feed for
/usr/ucb/mail or /bin/mail that would result in a properly formatted
NeXT mail message (or MIME, etc). If only I knew the NeXTMail syntax
specs...Anybody have this?
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555 Clayton St., #25
San Francisco, CA 94117
Email: buckley.paul@mayo.edu
Tel: 415-558-9381
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From: cjones@haakon.wellesley.edu (Carl Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TIFFanyII Tips and Techniques on the Web?
Date: 29 Feb 1996 20:19:03 GMT
Organization: Wellesley College
Message-ID: <4h51nn$q0j@charlotte.wellesley.edu>
As a relative newcomer to graphics tools under NEXTSTEP, I've really
appreciated sites such as Mmalcolm Crawfords's Web page on "Creating WWW
Pages With NEXTSTEP"
(http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/) and Keith Ohlf's PixelSite
(http://www.pixelsight.com/ ).
I was wondering, however, if any of you might be interested in doing
something in the way of providing tips and techniques for users of
TIFFanyII and/or WetPaint which might be added to Mmalcolm's site? I've seen
a fair number of references to Web pages containing techniques for PhotoShop
users, etc., and thought NS users might be able to benefit from something of
the same.
I know the TIFFanyII CD includes some tutorials, but these are not always
enough for those of us who are getting our feet wet, and trying to translate
the PhotoShop techniques whether on the Web or from printed sources has been
a little trying.
Carl
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cjones@wellesley.edu
cjones@haakon.wellesley.edu (NeXTMail/MIME Welcome)
From: cjones@haakon.wellesley.edu (Carl Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TIFFanyII Tips and Techniques on the Web?
Date: 29 Feb 1996 20:19:29 GMT
Organization: Wellesley College
Message-ID: <4h51oh$q0j@charlotte.wellesley.edu>
As a relative newcomer to graphics tools under NEXTSTEP, I've really
appreciated sites such as Mmalcolm Crawfords's Web page on "Creating WWW
Pages With NEXTSTEP"
(http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/) and Keith Ohlf's PixelSite
(http://www.pixelsight.com/ ).
I was wondering, however, if any of you might be interested in doing
something in the way of providing tips and techniques for users of
TIFFanyII and/or WetPaint which might be added to Mmalcolm's site? I've seen
a fair number of references to Web pages containing techniques for PhotoShop
users, etc., and thought NS users might be able to benefit from something of
the same.
I know the TIFFanyII CD includes some tutorials, but these are not always
enough for those of us who are getting our feet wet, and trying to translate
the PhotoShop techniques whether on the Web or from printed sources has been
a little trying.
Carl
--
cjones@wellesley.edu
cjones@haakon.wellesley.edu (NeXTMail/MIME Welcome)
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: calendar x crashes
Date: 29 Feb 1996 11:59:54 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
Message-ID: <4h44fq$nn1@dropit.pgh.net>
The calendar program works fine, but trying to run it from cron with
an arg so as to hit everybody's calendar croaks. The regular
expression that is generated seems to give eval problems. Does
anybody have a fix?
-----
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me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: cjones@haakon.wellesley.edu (Carl Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TIFFanyII Tips and Techniques on the Web?
Date: 29 Feb 1996 20:21:02 GMT
Organization: Wellesley College
Message-ID: <4h51re$q0j@charlotte.wellesley.edu>
As a relative newcomer to graphics tools under NEXTSTEP, I've really
appreciated sites such as Mmalcolm Crawfords's Web page on "Creating WWW
Pages With NEXTSTEP"
(http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/) and Keith Ohlf's PixelSite
(http://www.pixelsight.com/ ).
I was wondering, however, if any of you might be interested in doing
something in the way of providing tips and techniques for users of
TIFFanyII and/or WetPaint which might be added to Mmalcolm's site? I've seen
a fair number of references to Web pages containing techniques for PhotoShop
users, etc., and thought NS users might be able to benefit from something of
the same.
I know the TIFFanyII CD includes some tutorials, but these are not always
enough for those of us who are getting our feet wet, and trying to translate
the PhotoShop techniques whether on the Web or from printed sources has been
a little trying.
Carl
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.tex
Subject: TEST-RELEASE: teTeX for NEXTSTEP
Date: 26 Feb 1996 20:01:25 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <4gt3il$f3c@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Keywords: TeX
ANNOUNCING FIRST PUBLIC TEST-RELEASE
OF A QUAD-FAT TETEX DISTRIBUTION FOR NEXTSTEP
Location:
ftp://zarquon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/pub/NeXT/tex/teTeX
From the README:
Preface
This is a first public test release. I mean it. In the first place,
it is intended to help me locate bugs and places for improvements.
Therefore, only people familiar enough with TeX to get around with
the sparse documentation should try this.
Don't try to install this if you have a working TeX installation
you depend on and don't know how to reinstall it in case of trouble
with this package. Wait for a stable release in the next few weeks.
NOTE: The easiest way to install this package reliable is to remove
any reminiscents of NeXTTeX (apart from TeXview!) before. On the
other hand, you might want to recycle at least your fonts.
Introduction
NeXTTeX as distributed with NEXTSTEP 3.x is a based on a very
ancient version of web2c (aka UnixTeX). Since the arrival of LaTeX2e
and the emerging TDS (TeX directory standard), this gets more and
more a problem because NeXTTeX lacks support for subdirectory
searches. NeXT hasn't showed any interest to update NeXTTeX, so we
decided it was time to put together an independent, recent TeX
distribution for NEXTSTEP.
What is included in this package?
teTeX includes the TeX compiler (tex), Metafont (mf) and a very
broad range of TeX- and Metafont-related tools. It incorporates a
well-structured tree of TeX and LaTeX macro packages, and a big
selection of fonts. To get more information, consult the teTeX
documentation.
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From: marc@accessone.com(Marc Salvatori)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PopOver: Mail Retrieval Defaults and Behavior
Date: 25 Feb 1996 22:24:12 GMT
Organization: AccessOne
Message-ID: <4gqnic$93u@news.accessone.com>
Keywords: Mail PopOver
Using V1.4(v62), I am able to seamlessly pull mail from more than one site.
Is there a default setting that allows me to set whether or not a mail host
is enabled?
Also, for a given list of mail hosts, does PopOver retrieve mail from each
site synchronously, starting with the first on the list? Or does it pull
mail asynchronously? Because NeXTMail does not sort mail using the "To:"
header element, synchronous mail would be an acceptable alternative.
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>< Marc J. Salvatori |
><
>< mailto:salvo@eskimo.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted
><
From: thrall@serv.net (Dean Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anybody using SuperDraw4.0?
Date: 24 Feb 1996 23:09:48 GMT
Organization: ServNet Internet Services
Message-ID: <4go5rs$j9m@brockman.serv.net>
Is there anyone using SuperDraw4.0 for making images for the World
Wide Web? I like the features, especially the anti-alias on the save,
but have run into a problem. When I save an image as a TIFF and then
import it into my web page a grayish border appears around the image.
This happens on anti-aliased and non anti-aliased images.
Has anybody else run into this problem? Any ideas?
Thanks for your time,
dean johnson
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From: root@maverick.jboller.dialup.access.net (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GDB for GCC 2.7.2 on NeXTStation m68k-next-nextstep3.3
Date: 25 Feb 1996 22:47:16 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <4gqotk$635@news1.panix.com>
Keywords: GNU GDB GCC NeXT m68k
Hi!
I am looking for GBB for GCC 2.7.2 on NeXTStation m68k-next-nextstep3.3.
Currently GDB 4.7 (NeXT 3.1) bus errors/segmentation faults with ObjC
executables generated by GCC 2.7.2. (er..Mach executables?).
gdb-4.15.1 does not build for the NeXT Motorola 68040
(m68k-next-nextstep3.3)
I would greatly appreciate and hints or pointers to help!
Thanks, John Boller
jboller@panix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: NeXT Icon Builder???
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DnCCD1.LM1@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:55:46 GMT
References: <4gnuc8$pdf@corporate.hesta.com>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4gnuc8$pdf@corporate.hesta.com>,
Michael Verruto <michael@indigo> wrote:
>Does anyone know where I could find a copy of this NeXT .app?
>
>I *used* to have it, but now can't find it...If I can, will it even run under 3.3 on intel?
>
>I am only looking for a *simple* app to use for building custom folder icons here in our office net...
>
There's /NextDeveloper/Apps/IconBuilder.app; is this not what you want? The
old Icon (or whatever it was called) from 2.x won't run under 3.x.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: marc@accessone.com(Marc Salvatori)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: Urlifier.bundle
Date: 25 Feb 1996 22:06:25 GMT
Organization: AccessOne
Message-ID: <4gqmh1$93u@news.accessone.com>
References: <4gmtcq$q88@usc.edu>
In <4gmtcq$q88@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> Although I can see the little URL at appropriate places in my MIME mail,
> double-clicking on it doesn't bring up my browser. Is it supposed to?
Yes, it is supposed to launch your browser. This comes from the README,
which unfortunately was not included in the binary package:
This bundle defaults to using OmniWeb with:
dwrite Mail URLService "OmniWeb/Open URL"
To use Netsurfer:
dwrite Mail URLService "Netsurfer/Open URL"
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>< Marc J. Salvatori |
><
>< mailto:salvo@eskimo.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted
><
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher A. Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2 Beta5 - huge speed improvement
Date: 25 Feb 1996 00:06:23 GMT
Organization: WolfWare (http://www.wolfware.com)
Message-ID: <4go95v$t0m@shellx.best.com>
References: <4gjnpf$ed@shellx.best.com> <4glpqi$15j6@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4glpqi$15j6@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
On 02/23/96, Rudolf B. Blazek wrote:
>OK, but is it really fast? Why is Netscape I run under x-win emulation over
>the net off a large IBM unix workstation faster? Is it that the disks etc.
>are faster on the IBM box, or is it OmniWeb? I have black NeXTstation mono
>with 16MB RAM, 1.6GB HDisk and NS 3.2.
Well previously it was noticable slower than NetScape running on comparable PC
hardware platforms... now I'd say they are pretty close in speed. Before I used
to feel that I was constantly staring at the Converting SGML<->RTF message or
whatever it says... now I barely have time to read it before it disappears in
most cases. Check it out for yourself.. it feels at least as snappy as OW 1.0
did and has a lot more functionality.
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From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: 28 Feb 1996 19:20:55 -0500
Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA
Message-ID: <4h2rh7$9g2@news.duke.edu>
There are some things about OpenWrite that really bug me. The
geometry of the cursor in relation to the text is a bit off,
so that some letters get left out of selected text, or get
included inadvertently. This single bug gives me an
"uncomfortable" feeling when I use OpenWrite.
It is like Mathematica 2.2's front end. Also, you can't
search for selections that include new lines (where you cut
and paste the selection into the Find text window). And
deleting a selected word leaves the double blank spaces
surrounding it, unlike Edit, which automatically deletes it.
Lighthouse ought to rework some of these basic elements now
that it owns OpenWrite.
-- Lee Altenberg
altenber@mhpcc.edu
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: 29 Feb 1996 12:28:34 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4h465i$6lv@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4h2rh7$9g2@news.duke.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4h2rh7$9g2@news.duke.edu>
On 02/29/96, Lee Altenberg wrote:
> Lighthouse ought to rework some of these basic elements now
> that it owns OpenWrite.
>
Seconded.
I really hate to knock Lighthouse -- they seem like an excellent company, and
have produced a wealth of excellent products over the years (and of course
their edu pricing is outstanding!), but OW just doesn't seem to have been
shaken down properly.
Much though I aslo liked the Xanthus people, I was never enamoured of OW
because of its clunky interface, and chose WriteUp (and PasteUp) instead. I
had hoped Lighthouse would work their magic on it -- it seems to me like they
gave up part-way through the spell. There are a number of niggly bugs, and
some major bugs (notably in dealing with HTML documents) which just make it
less user-friendly than I've come to expect.
I really hope there's a 2.1 in the works and due out soon. It'd give me more
incentive to test out some of the powerful new features -- such as books --
which might eventually make OW a rival to FrameMaker for me.
One suggestion here: I know it's an interesting idea, but I really don't
think that the Tables app works seperately -- please roll it into the main
application.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
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From: leigh@antechinus.cs.uwa.oz.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FAQ? TeXEdit & lack of Emacs keybindings on Intel
Date: 26 Feb 1996 03:21:40 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4gr904$402@styx.uwa.edu.au>
I know I've seen past postings on the question of where Dmitri Linde is
now located, and if an update is possible to get Emacs key bindings on the
Intel version of TeXEdit 3.0 (part of InstantTeX 3.1). Can anyone fill me
in on any further support of TeXEdit.app?
Thanks
--
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"In a world where success means gaining time, thinking has a single but
irredeemable fault: it's a waste of time" - J-F. Lyotard
From: pvonhip@seville.next.com (Paul Von Hippel (Contractor))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FrameMaker
Date: 29 Feb 1996 01:26:38 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4h2vce$854@news.next.com>
Using black hardware, I find I can crash FrameMaker pretty often with the
Find command.
Can anyone offer advice?
Best,
Paul
From: deniseh@shellx.best.com (Denise Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Opener.app 3.3 stops working suddenly
Date: 24 Feb 1996 16:39:15 -0800
Organization: Best Internet Communications
Message-ID: <4gob3j$ee0@shellx.best.com>
References: <1996Feb21.165512.21165@alw.nih.gov>
Kuo-Tsung Wu (ktwu@alw.nih.gov) wrote:
: My NeXTstation (3.2 user/developer) suffered couple of bad crushs
: lately. Since then Opener.app ceased functioning. Now when I click
: a compressed file, Opener starts up and the curser keeps spinning and
: spinning. I have to kill the process after a while. Remove the
: defaults and reinstall a new copy does not work (I might miss something).
: Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Have you checked your console window for clues as to what was going on
when this happened?
Denise
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deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Framemaker Postscript Output - Landscape Problems
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 21:36:51 GMT
Message-ID: <1996Feb28.213651.19990@cyantic.com>
I would like to convert FrameMaker 3.0.1 PS output to GIF format.
The document is a presentation in Landscape orientation.
Frame can print, and Preview.app can display the file.
However, OmniImage and Image Viewer are not able to display the
file in the correct orientation when the PS file is opened.
The display is rotated 90 degrees. With OmniImage, when I save
to GIF format, the file is rotated.
BTW, we also have this problem when we send Frame output to Linotype
300 at one of our graphic arts suppliers.
Is there something wrong with the Frame Postscript? Or are the
viewers broken?
Any help is appreciated.
Please respond by Email.
Thanks
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation
1 Eva Road Suite 301
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA
Voice: (416) 621-6166 Fax: (416) 621-6212
Email: mark@cyantic.com
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--
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1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu>
Subject: Re: generating NeXT mail. Was: Re: How to rebuild table_of_contents without Mail.app
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960228191219.2056A-100000@lipschitz>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 19:35:21 -0600
In-Reply-To: <4gd8a6$1mt@lanshark.lanminds.com>
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960215105021.19335L-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4gd8a6$1mt@lanshark.lanminds.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On 20 Feb 1996 buckley@mayo.edu wrote:
| On 02/14/96, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
| >Hmmm... does anyone else see this as yet another reason why there
| >should be a commandline version of Mail.app available? With the
| >ability to read/send NeXTMail and MIME mail, as well as all the
| >other compatibilities for working properly?
|
| Seems there should be a unix/command line way to construct a feed for
| /usr/ucb/mail or /bin/mail that would result in a properly formatted
| NeXT mail message (or MIME, etc). If only I knew the NeXTMail syntax
| specs...Anybody have this?
There's a program called "send_attach" that will construct a Mail.app message
at the Unix command line:
lipschitz:/deviate> send_attach
Usage 0.8 (NeXTStep 3.1 Written by Joe@FreemanSoft.com):
send_attach [-s subject] [-cc cc_user] [-bcc bcc_user]
[-bodytext_file] <recipient> [<file> [<file>...]]
-s specifies the subject of the message.
-cc creates a list of CC recipients.
-bcc creates a list of BCC recipients
-body specifies the file to use as the message body.
"-body -" causes causes the message body text from standard-in.
Multiple recipients can be specified by quoting the names list.
Multiple word subject lines should be quoted.
Examples:
send_attach ask_next my_file bob_file
would send files 'my_file' and 'bob_file' to 'ask_next'
send_attach -s "some good stuff" "bill dave" latest_info
would send the file 'latest_info' to users 'bill' and 'dave'
with a subject line that reads 'some good stuff'
send_attach -body - me my_file
would send 'my_file' to 'me' and read the mail body from stdin.
send_attach is on the NeXT archives.
I found it a bit tedious to use, so I wrote a little wrapper called clnm
(Command Line Next Mail ) that uses your favorite Unix editor and a little
browser to find attachments.
Most of the time I use Pine for reading e-mail. When I get a Mail.app
message I pipe it out to dcnm (DeCode Next Mail). dcnm drops the attachments
and index.rtf in sub-dirs of ~/NeXTMail and returns a list of attachments
and the ascii text of the message to Pine. Pine already understands MIME,
so I didn't fiddle with that.
e-mail me if you want clnm or dcnm. Remember to state your favorite mode
of transmission (NeXTMail, MIME, self extracting uuencode).
-- kc
P.S. clnm & dcnm are csh scripts. You'll need to change the first line from
#!/bin/csh -f to #!/bin/tcsh -f if you use tsch .
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: calendar x crashes
Date: 29 Feb 1996 15:46:17 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4h4ho9$s1l@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <4h44fq$nn1@dropit.pgh.net>
In article <4h44fq$nn1@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us writes:
> The calendar program works fine, but trying to run it from cron with
> an arg so as to hit everybody's calendar croaks. The regular
> expression that is generated seems to give eval problems. Does
> anybody have a fix?
You have to edit the script to get it right. I think that a fix was
posted either in the release notes or on NeXTanswers.
Paul
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Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems
Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: sendmail 8.7.4 and Mail.app
Date: 29 Feb 1996 00:46:18 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4h2t0q$4ea@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA>
Hi,
I am using sendmail 8.7.4 in NS3.3. I use the user databe feature of
this new version of sendmail to modify the "From" and "Reply-to"
fields of outgoing messages. For example:
All mail posted from userA has fields:
From: userA@domainA
Reply-to: user@domainA
All mail posted from userB has fields:
From: userB@domainB
Reply-to: userB@domainB
domainA and domainB have even noting to do with my machine domain.
This works very well when I send mail using the "Mail" shell command.
However, when I use Mail.app the user database is not used and wrong
return addresses are in the headers.
Anybody knows how to prevent Mail.app from overriding the senmail.cf
definitions?
Thank you very much,
Francois Magnan
From: peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: rtf2html-Tool for Black HW
Date: 23 Feb 1996 21:49:38 GMT
Organization: Peter's Private Newsserver
Message-ID: <4glcpi$20l@unity.westfalen.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Friends,
I remember that there was somewhere a rtf2html-Tool but I couldnt find it.
If someone have it already compiled for m68k I would be very happy if he
could send it to me.
thanks a lot
peter
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Am Bredberg 21 49143 Bissendorf Germany
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NeXTmail and MIME welcome
Phone:+49(0)5402 98050
Public Key on request
From: joisha@ces.cwru.edu (G.Prashanth Joisha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need info on Fatted Calf CD
Date: 26 Feb 1996 23:01:59 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Message-ID: <4gte57$k40@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>
References: <DnELrA.H2F@uia.ua.ac.be>
Hi all,
Can someone tell as to where I could get hold of Fatted Calf CD. I
need the Vendor's name and Phone number.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
GPJ
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Email: joisha@alpha.ces.cwru.edu
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Case Western Reserve University,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: How do I tell who has accessed my webpage?
Message-ID: <DnCDu4.M4@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <4gjloe$s3@usc.edu>
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 17:27:39 GMT
In article <4gjloe$s3@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N.
Reichman) writes:
> > But why do you post this to c.s.n.s?
>
> I was figuring it was something to do with HTML which would be
> software. On the other hand this could've gone into c.s.n.sysadmin.
It's really not NeXT-specific. comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
might have been a better choice.
> http://www.ics.uci.edu/WebSoft/wwwstat.
>
> This is a tool that will analyse your access_log file and output an
> HTML report.
In the access-log file of your server, the user normally is not
logged because there is no secure way to identifiy a user if he has
not to login with a password. A line might look like (NCSA server
1.3):
nexus1.tng.oche.de - - [25/Feb/1996:16:04:29 +0100] "GET
/default.html HTTP/1.0" 200 466
> My only question is, is there a way from the commandline that I can
> tell what kind and level of webserver is being used, or do I have
> to phone my web sysdamins?
You should phone your sysadmin. Another question is, do you have
access to the logfiles of your webserver ;-)
Michael
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Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 (neue Rufnummer!)
Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
PGP : Public Key on demand
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Indexing Kit ignores .mbox -- workaround??
Date: 26 Feb 1996 00:19:12 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Message-ID: <4gqua0$4jc@news.acns.nwu.edu>
I've been trying to build indexes for a lot of my personal files,
and I'm completely stumped. Simply doing an 'ixbuild -v' on a
directory that contains mailboxes results in any directory with
a .mbox extension being recognized by ixbuild as type:mbox, which
means it will be entirely ignored. With .index.itype, it is
possible to _force_ ixbuild to ignore a type of file, but how
do I _prevent_ it from ignoring mailboxes? Ideally, of course,
I'd like to see it search the mailboxes and bring them up in
Mail.app...but I would settle for just searching the plain-ASCII
mbox files inside, and bringing them up in Edit.app or Librarian.
Alternatively, if it is impossible to descend a directory tree
with an .mbox suffix in ixbuild (can this really be true?!), is
there any known way to search forty or fifty mailboxes at once
from within Mail.app 3.3? Any advice appreciated....
``This is an awkward transitional +----------------------------------------+
century: the help has gotten all | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 |
uppity, but the robots aren't yet | jburton@nwu.edu |
competent.'' -- Lloyd K. Marquis +----------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: SoftPC with Windows Problem on a Cube -- Help!!
Message-ID: <DnJsy9.50K@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <4h0a7i$8d@dropit.pgh.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 17:37:20 GMT
In article <4h0a7i$8d@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us writes:
> I posted this a day or so ago from the office but it seems to have
> got lost.
>
> When I type win<RETURN>, I get the Windows banner then I get the
> window sizing panel. So far, so good. However, when I click the
> button to continue, one of three things happens.
>
> Occasionally the hourglass appears and Windows starts up.
It's supposed to do this ;-)
> Sometimes it crashes with what appears to be a register dump.
Never seen this...
> Usually, the app just hangs.
this is a known bug. It's due to a minor change in the way NeXT handle
mouse down events between NS3.0 and 3.2. There's a patch for this in
ftp.insignia.com:/unix/next/WinScreen.tar.
> I don't
> know why it does not "just work" like other NeXT apps.
I've seen the code - it is not like other NeXT apps!
> The sytem is currently configured with 8Mb of RAM and a 50Mb disk,
This is not going to be the greatest of system!!
>it did the same thing with 4Mb/25Mb. The Cube has 24Mb of RAM
>and a 68040 CPU.
It's down to the OS version - 3.2 definitly does it. Other revisions may
also have problems.
Ian
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 26 Feb 1996 05:15:09 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4grfkt$iv@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
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==========================
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Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
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Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
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programmer/philosopher.
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===========================================
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
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The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
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The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
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and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
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To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
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call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
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Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
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Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: URGENT HELP! file recovery
Date: 1 Mar 1996 02:36:00 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Message-ID: <4h5nqg$cg@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <4h224f$o7a@news.tamu.edu> <4h3tft$bq@turbocat.snafu.de> <4h5h58$ggn@usc.edu>
reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote:
> In <4h3tft$bq@turbocat.snafu.de> David Wetzel wrote:
> > stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) wrote:
> > > Does anyone know of a way to recover files after they have
> > > been DESTROYED from the NS Workspace - a utility I can get,
> > > a company that will do it?
> >
> > "gnutar xvzf /dev/rst0" ;-)
>
> I looked this up on the man page, but I still don't get how this
> does what is being called for.
The "gnutar xvzf /dev/rst0" command restores the lost file from
your daily backup, nondestructively. The "-)" command, after the
semicolon, just sits there silently and laughs its daemonic little
head off at you if you forgot to _make_ that daily backup. You
can redirect it to /dev/sound if you prefer audible abuse, or to
/dev/null if you can live without. You still won't get the files
back, of course.
The two-X Exxon, that's a gas. +----------------------------------------+
The one-X Exon, he's an ass. | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 |
But should our feed keep alt.sex on | jburton@nwu.edu |
Until they meet a three-X Exxxon? +----------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: OWL - how do I load disk images?
Message-ID: <DnG7I3.JAu@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <DnCsxF.GnG@waldo.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:01:14 GMT
In article <DnCsxF.GnG@waldo.com> hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker)
writes:
> I downloaded the BBC emulator Owl and a couple of disk images.
Unfortunately, I
> can't seem to get them to load properly (i.e. at all!).
>
> Could someone explain to me how to do this? Thanks
>
There's a readme inside the app wrapper which clarifies things.
Basically you need to split the disk image into the files, and create a
directory file which gives the load, length and execution addresses for
each bbc file. Source to do this is in the readme file.
Put all these files in a directory, and Specify this directory in the
preferences panel (disk).
You can't do a *cat (look its just difficult right!), but simple loading
of whole files (as needed by games) should work pretty easily.
Do _NOT_ install DFS - the emulation breaks into the tape driver in the
OS (which must be 1.2 - not that anyones likly to try any different).
Ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: OWL - how do I load disk images?
Message-ID: <DnG7I7.JBJ@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <DnCsxF.GnG@waldo.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:01:18 GMT
In article <DnCsxF.GnG@waldo.com> hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker)
writes:
> I downloaded the BBC emulator Owl and a couple of disk images.
Unfortunately, I
> can't seem to get them to load properly (i.e. at all!).
>
> Could someone explain to me how to do this? Thanks
>
> Matt
> --
> __ | Matthew Hocker, B.Eng (McGill) |
> /\_\ | "Believer in all things well-engineered" | BMW CCA
#124947
> \/_/ | hocker@waldo.com | AOPA
#012475939
> NeXTSTEP! | NeXTmail and MIME welcomed here | PP-ASEL
Student
From: bkmoore@uci.edu (Brian Kevin Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP and Mail.app
Date: 29 Feb 1996 05:21:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4h3d45$6f9@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <4h1586$ci@tandem.CAM.ORG>
Where can I get a copy of CryptorBundle?? I've looked at
next-ftp.peak.org, but failed to find it.
Brian Moore
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TIFFanyII Tips and Techniques on the Web?
Date: 1 Mar 1996 03:37:14 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <4h5rda$3md@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <4h51nn$q0j@charlotte.wellesley.edu>
cjones@haakon.wellesley.edu (Carl Jones) writes:
>I was wondering, however, if any of you might be interested in doing
>something in the way of providing tips and techniques for users of
>TIFFanyII and/or WetPaint which might be added to Mmalcolm's site? I've seen
>a fair number of references to Web pages containing techniques for PhotoShop
>users, etc., and thought NS users might be able to benefit from something of
>the same.
I'm in the process of adding such a site to our server right now. Malcolm
and I have been corresponding, and I may mirror his material for those
of us on this side of "The Pond" :-). T2 is very powerful and has a lot of
subtleties, but it also has some of the most responsive developers around
(and in the NS world, that's very responsive indeed!)
The site will include tips and tricks I've learned and gleaned for
image processing, animation, RenderMan on NEXTSTEP, desktop publishing
and Web site design and construction. A companion site will offer a
bunch of free stuff for ftp (movies, sounds, pix, the-long-promised-never-
finished-now-irrelevant-IsMap.app, etc.)
I'll send Scott Anguish an announcement when it's ready; say 1-2 weeks.
--
Steve Weintz * Partner, New Media, Ltd.
P.O. Box 742 * Urbana, IL 61801
steve@dave-world.net * 217.344.5303 * 217.344.8981 fax
Staff Visioneer, Beckman Institute Visualization Facility * indy@uiuc.edu
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WODocumentation
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 22:08:27 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Feb29.220827.354@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4gs4r3$8e@cube.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
In article <4gs4r3$8e@cube.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Dominik Westner
<dominik@gowest.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> writes:
> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Maybe it might be a good idea if NeXT could create an official
> version of
> > this...?! :-)
>
> They do ... maybe you should try:
>
> http://www.next.com:80/Pubs/Documents/WebObjects/Beta1/WODoc.v2.tar.Z
As a matter of curiousity, are there any discernable links to this from
the WebObjects or Pubs pages?
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: paul@stonewall.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP and Mail.app
Date: 29 Feb 1996 08:06:23 -0600
Organization: Me, organized? You must be joking.
Sender: paul@stonewall.umsl.edu
Message-ID: <ec1d96yxm3k.fsf@stonewall.umsl.edu>
References: <4gdf1i$v7u@wycliffe.covenant.edu> <4gkn1c$jce@tandem.CAM.ORG>
<x67mxcczkj.fsf@amber.umsl.edu> <4h1586$ci@tandem.CAM.ORG>
In-reply-to: tralala@cam.org's message of 28 Feb 1996 08:54:30 GMT
>>>>> "tralala" == tralala <tralala@cam.org> writes:
tralala> On 02/24/96, Paul J. Sanchez wrote:
>> CryptorBundle has two major flaws (at least when I last looked
>> at it). 1) It encrypts under NextMail, so you can only
>> communicate with other NeXT owners, and
tralala> Not quite true, you can use the many PGP shell commands
tralala> for that purpose. Please read the PGP documentation.
tralala> e.g. Sending encrypted mail attachments (ASCII).
>> 2) When you decrypt, your mail is decrypted rather than just
>> displayed - anyone can read it subsequently.
tralala> You can re-encrypt a decrypted messages and mail it to
tralala> yourself if you wish to maintain an encrypted archive.
tralala> Another alternative is to have your correspondant use the
tralala> "For Your Eyes Only" option. Hence, his message would
tralala> "only" be displayed on your screen.
tralala> -Andre
Your arguments support my point, which is that CryptorBundle is not a
complete solution for people who want to use PGP - 1) To communicate
with non-NeXT users, which is the majority of the world, you need to
bail out of CryptorBundle (and there's no need to be snide - I know
how to use the command line.) An effective solution shouldn't require
you to use other tools for the majority of cases! 2) A security tool
shouldn't require you to work around its weakness by re-encrypting to
yourself, or to rely on the judgement of others.
My criticism of CryptorBundle is that it requires you to work around
it at times. Certainly one can always use the command line with PGP,
but front ends are created specifically to avoid that. There are
alternatives which I believe do a better job for the user. I think
TickleServices does a pretty good job compared to CryptorBundle.
--
--paul http://www.umsl.edu/~psanchez/
=================================================================
Families, when a child is born want it to be intelligent.
I, through intelligence, having wrecked my whole life,
Only hope the baby will prove ignorant and stupid.
Then he will crown a tranquil life by becoming
a Cabinet Minister.
-- Su Tung-p'o
=================================================================
From: white@entropy3.stt.msu.edu (Alexander K. White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Q: Spanish Speller Dictionary
Date: 1 Mar 1996 00:18:53 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4h5fpd$15kn@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Howdi NeXTperts,
This is my first time posting on the newsgroup. I am interested in
finding a Spanish dictionary to use with the Next Speller engine. I
installed the Spanish.pkg from the system software and everything spoke
spanish except for the Speller dictionary. Does anyone know where I can get,
buy, borrow, or steal one?
Alex White
MSU
white@entropy3.msu.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: URGENT HELP! file recovery
Date: 1 Mar 1996 00:42:16 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-42.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4h5h58$ggn@usc.edu>
References: <4h224f$o7a@news.tamu.edu> <4h3tft$bq@turbocat.snafu.de>
In <4h3tft$bq@turbocat.snafu.de> David Wetzel wrote:
> stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a way to recover files after they have been DESTROYED
> > from the NS Workspace - a utility I can get, a company that will do it?
>
> "gnutar xvzf /dev/rst0" ;-)
I looked this up on the man page, but I still don't get how this does what is
being called for.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: RELEASE: Owl1.0 - BBC emulator
Message-ID: <DnDtDM.7F2@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <9602230431.AA22797@origin.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:00:57 GMT
In article <9602230431.AA22797@origin.demon.co.uk> Hugh Allan
<hallan@origin.demon.co.uk> writes:
> In comp.sys.next.software article <Dn6JH8.6n4@isltd.insignia.com> you
wrote:
> > Owl
> > A BBC Emulator for NeXTStep
> > Release1.0
> >
> Congratulations... Errrmm... What you say games... Disk version of
Elite ;-} ?
>
Yep - I've got a version of Elite which runs fine, apart from the split
screen.
> /// NeXT for work,Amiga for fun
Check out Uae. Bernd Schmidt has done a killer job of emulating the
Amiga!
I've got a version working on NeXTStep which should be merged into the
next major release. More info to follow...
Ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Subject: SoftPC for Windows on a Cube -- Help!!
Message-ID: <1996Feb25.153647.9700@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 96 15:36:47 GMT
Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA
When I type win<RETURN>, the Windows banner appears, I get the panel to
set the window size and then, one of three things happens. The program
hangs (most frequent), the program crashes with what looks like a
register dump (infrequent), or windows starts up properly (sometimes).
I am totally baffled as to why the program does not run all the time. I
was beginning to think it might be related to the selected window size,
but that is not repeatable. I don't know why it doesn't "just work"
like other NeXT programs.
I have preferences set up with 8Mb of memory and a 50Mb windows disk.
If anybody knows what is happening and how to cure it, please let me
know. I am getting a little crazy over this.
--
Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320
rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Moire pattern across scanned photographs
Date: 1 Mar 1996 09:16:30 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-68.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4h6f9e$lh7@usc.edu>
In scanning a few photos I noticed that some of them appear on my screen with
a kind of moire pattern across them. This was confirmed by printing them on
my next laser. I seem to remember a thread about this some time ago and I'm
hoping someone remembers the way to solve this problem.
Thanks in advance.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: lusty@aimnet.com (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: Urlifier.bundle
Date: 24 Feb 1996 22:51:37 -0800
Organization: Aimnet Corp.
Message-ID: <4gp0tp$8q2@aimnet.aimnet.com>
References: <4gmtcq$q88@usc.edu>
In article <4gmtcq$q88@usc.edu>,
Matthew N. Reichman <reichman@scf.usc.edu> wrote:
>Although I can see the little URL at appropriate places in my MIME mail,
>double-clicking on it doesn't bring up my browser. Is it supposed to?
The Urlifier bundle looks for OmniWeb by default. Use this dwrite:
dwrite Mail URLService "<app>/<service>"
where
<app> = an app that will understand a url
<service> = the services menu option it uses
for example:
dwrite Mail URLService "Netsurfer/Open URL"
Lusty
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: SoftPC for black hw?
Message-ID: <DnDtM2.8CI@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <4gev3b$8d@turbocat.snafu.de>
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:06:02 GMT
In article <4gev3b$8d@turbocat.snafu.de> dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David
Wetzel) writes:
> Hello!
>
> I am looking for SoftPC for black hardware. I want to use the "DINFO2"
CD.
> Is there a demo of SPC 4.0 or greater available for black hardware?
Sorry, Black hardware isn't supported for version 4.0.
The last release on blak hardware was 3.0.
4.0 and 4.1 are Intel only releases.
Ian
[Who doesn't get to make policy decisions on this stuff :-(]
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb and transparent images ( known but with 8-bit displays)
Date: 24 Feb 1996 23:07:24 GMT
Organization: Computing Research Lab/New Mexico State University
Message-ID: <ZHAO.96Feb24160724@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960213111553.925A-100000@iisys.com>
<DMs21r.C0n@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <4g43gj$33p@mp.infotell.isar.de>
In-reply-to: mathiasp@infotell.isar.de's message of 17 Feb 1996 08:26:59 GMT
i have two systems running omniwebS browsering the same pages, same gifs
i produced using the same graphics utility. one shows transparency of
gifs, another not. why? if its bug, somewhere the bug wouldn't go.
zhao
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mosh@kino.ch (Dennis Michl)
Subject: QuickTimon yellow NeXTs
Message-ID: <DnC2vy.K2n@news.limmat.ch>
Keywords: QT, SPARC
Sender: news@news.limmat.ch (News Admin)
Organization: Limmat-Net, Zuerich - http://www.limmat.ch
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 13:31:10 GMT
Dudes,
is there a version of NEXTIME for Suns running NEXTSTEP? I compiled the
Movie.app on my SPARCstation but Quicktime movies are displayed without
sound.
-MoSH
From: michael@fortress.cs.wwu.edu (Michael F. DeMan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP and Serial Port Driver3.33
Date: 27 Feb 1996 20:47:13 GMT
Organization: Western Washington University
Message-ID: <4gvqkh$nfi@ra.cc.wwu.edu>
References: <4gdl7r$lkf@csu-b.csuohio.edu>
In article <4gdl7r$lkf@csu-b.csuohio.edu> r.daher@csuohio.edu (Rony Daher)
writes:
> Greetings all,
>
> I'm currently in the process of installing Steven Perkins' port of PPP
> for the NeXT (2.2.04.6) on my Intel box. After setting up PPP as
> instructed in the documentation, I connect to my provider and instead
> of PPP beginning negotiation, it hung up and gave the message "Serial
> Line is Looped Back"
>
> In an effort to fix this, I downloaded the new Serial Drivers (3.33),
> the Serial Pointing Device (3.33) and Port Server (3.33) drivers. Upon
> installing Serial 3.33 drivers, I could no longer access COM2. I've
> checked the IO addresses and IRQ's and everything was set identically
> to when the system ran the 3.30 serial drivers.
>
> If anybody has had any experience installing the new serial drivers
> and can help me solve the loopback problem, I'd greatly appreciate it.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rony Daher
> Network Support Technician
> Cleveland State University
I set up PPP2.2 on my machine. I had the same problem(s) you've had, and
have upgraded to the new serial drivers, (I posted a possible bug in
comp.sys.next.bugs you may want to read).
You have to install TWO of the serial drivers plus the
TTYPortDriver in order to access COM2. Basically, install
SerialPortDriver, then add another one. The Config App will automatically
assign the second driver to COM2. Do the same if you have COM3, COM4,
etc.
I never did get PPP to work right until I picked up
gatekeeper.app. This app automates the PPP stuff if you're dialing out.
I suggest getting it (it uses PPP2.2, so keep that) and painstakingly
walking through its setup, using the 'install PPP2.2 under Gatekeeper'
help menu.
I'm using a USRobotics 22.8 on COM2, I can e-mail you some of the
scripts & setup files I've got if you let me know which ones you're stuck
on.
Good luck,
mike
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT and tcpdump
Date: 27 Feb 1996 22:01:07 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4gvuv3$gss@news.its.com>
References: <4gl4g3$nao@news-2.csn.net>
bff@csn.net (Brendan Forsyth) wrote:
> Has anyone gotten tcpdump and libcap to compile on the NeXT? Or is there
> a another product that does the same thing?
I expect that it's not possible, since there is no public API to directly
access the ethernet controller and do things like set it to promiscuous mode.
Go find a Sun or use a PC with network monitoring software.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: stefan.boehringer@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Does Maple V exist for NeXTSTEP?
Date: 1 Mar 1996 06:49:20 GMT
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Message-ID: <4h66lg$5j9@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Furthermore, is there pricing more adequate than with Mathematica =
(which lacks a student version for NS)?
TIA
- stefan
From: Kevin Hiebert <webmaster@bcog.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTGUI frontend to IRC ?
Date: 1 Mar 1996 09:06:54 GMT
Organization: BCOG Webmaster
Message-ID: <4h6ene$m1b@sulla.cyberstore.ca>
References: <DnELrA.H2F@uia.ua.ac.be> <4h05fn$hjq@cmir.arnes.si>
jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic) wrote:
>In <DnELrA.H2F@uia.ua.ac.be> Peter Depuydt wrote:
>>
>> I am looking for an GUI to irc ...
>
>Don't! All GUI interfaces to IRC suq deeply! I find Mirc and Virc (on
>windows) totally inadequate for ircing... ordinary ircII client is best for
>all tasks...
I agree, mostly. But I also like the work done so far on Encircle.app:
http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~premise/foundation/encircle/
--
Kevin J. Hiebert, Chartered Accountant
Webmaster for the British Columbia Openstep Group
<webmaster@bcog.org> + <URL:http://www.bcog.org>
* MIME/NeXTmail welcome * PGP key available *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
In-Reply-To: mmalcolm crawford's message of 29 Feb 1996 12:28:34 GMT
Message-ID: <RDL.96Mar1063006@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4h2rh7$9g2@news.duke.edu> <4h465i$6lv@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:30:06 GMT
Ditto.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WODocumentation
Date: 1 Mar 1996 12:14:27 GMT
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Sheffield University
Message-ID: <4h6pn3$2mh@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4gnn9c$4b9@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <4gs4r3$8e@cube.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
In-Reply-To: <4gs4r3$8e@cube.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
On 02/26/96, Dominik Westner wrote:
> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
> > Maybe it might be a good idea if NeXT could create an official
> > version of this...?! :-)
>
> They do ... maybe you should try:
>
> http://www.next.com:80/Pubs/Documents/WebObjects/Beta1/WODoc.v2.tar.Z
>
Hmm, so where's the pointer from the WWW pages?
I hope that my efforts will nevertheless be useful as documentation which can
be easily incorporated into DL, which seems to make it easier to do wider
searches on the rest of the developer docs at the same time.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: paul@amber.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP and Mail.app
Date: 01 Mar 1996 06:13:05 -0600
Organization: Me, organized? You must be joking.
Sender: paul@amber.umsl.edu
Message-ID: <x6pwaxroz2.fsf@amber.umsl.edu>
References: <4gdf1i$v7u@wycliffe.covenant.edu> <4gkn1c$jce@tandem.CAM.ORG>
<x67mxcczkj.fsf@amber.umsl.edu> <4h1586$ci@tandem.CAM.ORG>
<4h1ah4$rm1@usc.edu>
In-reply-to: reichman@scf.usc.edu's message of 28 Feb 1996 10:24:36 GMT
>>>>> "MR" == Matthew N Reichman <reichman@scf.usc.edu> writes:
MR> In <4h1586$ci@tandem.CAM.ORG> tralala@cam.org wrote:
>> On 02/24/96, Paul J. Sanchez wrote: >CryptorBundle has two
>> major flaws (at least when I last looked > at it). >1) It
>> encrypts under NextMail, so you can only communicate with >
>> other NeXT owners, and
>>
>> Not quite true, you can use the many PGP shell commands for
>> that purpose. Please read the PGP documentation. e.g. Sending
>> encrypted mail attachments (ASCII).
MR> I have found that the combination of Cryptor.bundle and
MR> Encipher.app to be all I need for mailing and archiving and
MR> key mangement purposes.
As far as I know, Encipher.app is only available in binary. Do you
really want to type your passphrase into a program where users can't
inspect the source? That's not my idea of security.
--
--paul http://www.umsl.edu/~psanchez/
[L(aB)FFoDM # {WAL(1,t):t\in(0.5,1]}]
=================================================================
Any father who thinks he's all important should remind
himself that this country honors fathers only one day a
year while pickles get a whole week.
=================================================================
From: soren@zeus.datashopper.dk (Soren Mathiasen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: News reader
Date: 1 Mar 1996 16:07:07 +0100
Organization: DataShopper Danmark, Copenhagen, Denmark
Message-ID: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk>
Are there included a news reader on the NS 3.3 cdrom, if not where can i find
one ???
Thanks, Soren
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Moire pattern across scanned photographs
Date: 1 Mar 1996 15:28:05 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <4h7525$7ak@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <4h6f9e$lh7@usc.edu>
reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) writes:
>In scanning a few photos I noticed that some of them appear on my screen with
>a kind of moire pattern across them. This was confirmed by printing them on
>my next laser. I seem to remember a thread about this some time ago and I'm
>hoping someone remembers the way to solve this problem.
What you're getting is an interference pattern between the DPI of the
scanned image and the monitor/printer. 2 workarounds:
1) adjust the DPI of your scanned photo
2) apply a mild Gaussian blur to the image, then an Unsharp Mask
(these fileters are available in TIFFany2 and Photoshop)
--
Steve Weintz * Partner, New Media, Ltd.
P.O. Box 742 * Urbana, IL 61801
steve@dave-world.net * 217.344.5303 * 217.344.8981 fax
Staff Visioneer, Beckman Institute Visualization Facility * indy@uiuc.edu
From: premise@news-server.engin.umich.edu (sean michael willson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTGUI frontend to IRC ?
Date: 1 Mar 1996 16:46:14 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <4h79km$1s9@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
References: <DnELrA.H2F@uia.ua.ac.be> <4h05fn$hjq@cmir.arnes.si>
Jonas Znidarsic (jonas@eunet.si) wrote:
: In <DnELrA.H2F@uia.ua.ac.be> Peter Depuydt wrote:
: > I am looking for an GUI to irc ...
: Don't! All GUI interfaces to IRC suq deeply! I find Mirc and Virc (on
: windows) totally inadequate for ircing... ordinary ircII client is best for
: all tasks... I hate, when somebody msgs you in Mirc and you have suddenly
: *lots* of windows, that you have to keep track... /whois data go to one
: window, /joined people to the other... sux!!! With a good script a text-only
: ircII client really rules, I run it in a 80x64 terminal window...
Although I am partial since I am writing the application (Encircle) I think
that mIRC and Virc etc really suck....the current release of Encircle 0.11
is a crude but functional release to get it to the community. I have a m
major release on the 10th or 11th of March which will be much more functional
and more elegent.
As far as what mIRC has and doesn't or really what you like and dislike, how
would you suggest solving some of the problems? I have used an inspector
philosophy for issuing commands and such. I also have a tool bar simular to
Create or Draw.app that is availiable for use. As far as whois I have a very
functional window that portrayes what I see as all the necessary info.
So I guess make some suggestions on what you want to see instead of what is
currently there, lets discuss this?
Sean Willson
--
_________________________________________________________________________
Sean M. Willson premise@engin.umich.edu
Foundation Software Solutions MIME, ASCII, NeXTMail
Object Oriented Application Development Specializing in NeXT/OpenStep
Net Home Page http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~premise/foundation/
1800 Washtenaw Ave. Ann Arbor Mi, 48104 (313) 669-0565
_________________________________________________________________________
From: jsamson@agt.net (Jean-Paul Samson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 1 Mar 1996 17:56:24 GMT
Organization: Public Live Access Network (PLAnet)
Message-ID: <4h7do8$qv3@tigger.planet.eon.net>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk>
In-Reply-To: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk>
On 03/01/96, Soren Mathiasen wrote:
>Are there included a news reader on the NS 3.3 cdrom, if not where
can i find
>one ???
There's newsreader stuff at the main NeXT archive. Use FTP to connect
to "next-ftp.peak.org"--I don't know if there is a mirror site closer
to your European location. Check out the directory
"pub/next/binaries/news". In particular, one application called
Alexandra is pretty good for newsreading.
--
-= Jean-Paul (Sean) Samson =------= St. Albert, Alberta, Canada =-
-= jsamson@agt.net =-------------------------= NeXTmail welcome =-
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Moire pattern across scanned photographs
Date: 1 Mar 1996 18:33:30 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4h7ftq$73e@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <4h7525$7ak@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In article <4h7525$7ak@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou) writes:
>reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) writes:
>>In scanning a few photos I noticed that some of them appear on my screen with
>>a kind of moire pattern across them. This was confirmed by printing them on
>>my next laser. I seem to remember a thread about this some time ago and I'm
>>hoping someone remembers the way to solve this problem.
>What you're getting is an interference pattern between the DPI of the
>scanned image and the monitor/printer. 2 workarounds:
> 1) adjust the DPI of your scanned photo
> 2) apply a mild Gaussian blur to the image, then an Unsharp Mask
> (these fileters are available in TIFFany2 and Photoshop)
Was the original "photo" from a printed material like magazines
instead of a real photographic print?
I think you missed the most obvious and effective.
Moire patterns occur during the process of spatial sampling, but once
the image becomes a scanned bitmap, they are as real as anything that is
intended.
If you still have access to the original image, redo the scanning at
another DPI (not by trying to adjust DPI post-scanning).
Sometimes, changing orientation of the original (say from horiz to vert)
on the scanner bed helps and rotate image in the apps.
--
Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: -3323, Web: http://totoro.berkeley.edu/~izumi/
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Poste.app, Kevin Berg, or Bruce Webster
Date: 1 Mar 1996 15:43:53 GMT
Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
Message-ID: <4h75vp$q7a@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
Hi,
I am trying to locate either a version of Poste.app that
will run on NSFIP or else its author, Kevin Berg. I sent a
message to the net about 10 days ago, but only got one
reply. This person thought Kevin was working for Bruce
Webster and he gave me an email address for Bruce
(bwebster@bwfa.com), but mail to that address bounced.
Before that, I had tried an old email address for Kevin
(tyche@milton.u.washington.edu), but that also bounced.
So now my search widens a bit. Does anyone either (1) have
a version of Poste.app for NSFIP, (2) know how to contact
Kevin Berg, (3) know how to contact Bruce Webster, or (4)
know someone else who might be able to help? If so, please
let me know. The name of Kevin's company, back in 1991
when he wrote Poste.app, was Willow Technologies, if that
helps at all. Thanks,
Gregg Dinse
919-541-4931
dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Does Maple V exist for NeXTSTEP?
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DnLEt0.GD7@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:27:00 GMT
References: <4h66lg$5j9@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4h66lg$5j9@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>,
Stefan Boehringer <stefan.boehringer@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
>Furthermore, is there pricing more adequate than with Mathematica =
>(which lacks a student version for NS)?
Yes. They just shipped Release 3 (which will be the final release.) I
bought Release 2 last year for $140 Canadian with all the books; I imagine R3
will be a similar price. Look at http://www.maplesoft.com/, although I think
they only say R2 is available for NS.
I suppose if I give them my registration card I'll get R3 Real Soon Now.
Walking past a company every day on your to and from school doesn't make you
hand in the cards any faster. :-)
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: generating NeXT mail. Was: Re: How to rebuild table_of_contents without Mail.app
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:28:03 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960229102438.973H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960215105021.19335L-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4gd8a6$1mt@lanshark.lanminds.com> <Pine.NXT.3.91.960228191219.2056A-100000@lipschitz>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960228191219.2056A-100000@lipschitz>
On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote:
> On 20 Feb 1996 buckley@mayo.edu wrote:
>
> | On 02/14/96, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
> | >Hmmm... does anyone else see this as yet another reason why there
> | >should be a commandline version of Mail.app available? With the
> | >ability to read/send NeXTMail and MIME mail, as well as all the
> | >other compatibilities for working properly?
> |
> | Seems there should be a unix/command line way to construct a feed for
> | /usr/ucb/mail or /bin/mail that would result in a properly formatted
> | NeXT mail message (or MIME, etc). If only I knew the NeXTMail syntax
> | specs...Anybody have this?
>
> There's a program called "send_attach" that will construct a Mail.app message
> at the Unix command line:
While this is a good way to _send_ NeXTMail, there still is no good way
to read NeXTMail, or Mail.app mboxes from the commandline. There is no
good way to send an attachment with a message either.
however, I think 'dcnm' is great. I use it all the time via PINE when
people send me NeXTMail.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles,
swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ,
and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: calendar x crashes
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:38:09 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960229133629.1216M-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4h44fq$nn1@dropit.pgh.net> <4h4ho9$s1l@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
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In-Reply-To: <4h4ho9$s1l@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
On 29 Feb 1996, Paul Lynch wrote:
> In article <4h44fq$nn1@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us writes:
> > The calendar program works fine, but trying to run it from cron with
> > an arg so as to hit everybody's calendar croaks. The regular
> > expression that is generated seems to give eval problems. Does
> > anybody have a fix?
>
> You have to edit the script to get it right. I think that a fix was
> posted either in the release notes or on NeXTanswers.
I believe
http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1699.htmld/1699.html
is what you are referring
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles,
swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ,
and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: michael.rutchik@mail.us.clorox.com (Michael Rutchik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TIFFanyII Tips and Techniques on the Web?
Date: 1 Mar 1996 22:24:11 GMT
Organization: The Clorox Company
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4h7teb$62p@clorox.news.pilot.net>
References: <4h51re$q0j@charlotte.wellesley.edu>
In <4h51re$q0j@charlotte.wellesley.edu> Carl Jones wrote:
> As a relative newcomer to graphics tools under NEXTSTEP, I've really
> appreciated sites such as Mmalcolm Crawfords's Web page on "Creating WWW
> Pages With NEXTSTEP"
> (http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/) and Keith Ohlf's PixelSite
> (http://www.pixelsight.com/ ).
>
> I was wondering, however, if any of you might be interested in doing
> something in the way of providing tips and techniques for users of
> TIFFanyII and/or WetPaint which might be added to Mmalcolm's site? I've
seen
> a fair number of references to Web pages containing techniques for
PhotoShop
> users, etc., and thought NS users might be able to benefit from something
of
> the same.
I just gave a T2 demo at last weeks BaNG meeting and since this is now my
most used app, I think it's high time I send in my .02. I will forward some
html pages to mmalcolm within a couple of weeks. If you don't see something
by then, feel free to remind me.
T2 is a great app, and deserves wider acceptance. Photoshop users just need
to be able to reboot their brain into T2 mode and all will be well.
--
*************************************************************
* M I C H A E L R U T C H I K *
Senior Graphic Designer Designer
The Clorox Company m&m Graphics
michael.rutchik@mail.us.clorox.com michael@mmgraph.com
NeXTmail welcome
*************************************************************
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where to Find CryptorBundle (was Re: PGP and Mail.app )
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 13:40:39 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960229133904.1216N-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4h3d45$6f9@news.service.uci.edu>
On 29 Feb 1996, Brian Kevin Moore wrote:
> Where can I get a copy of CryptorBundle?? I've looked at
> next-ftp.peak.org, but failed to find it.
either at peanuts.leo.org or one of the mirrors:
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/bundles/CryptorBundle.1.2.NIH.b.tar.gz
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles,
swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ,
and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: kboyes@noc.tor.hookup.net (Kevin Boyes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: replies in NS Mail
Date: 1 Mar 1996 14:52:24 -0500
Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA
Message-ID: <4h7kho$ub3@noc.tor.hookup.net>
NNTP-Posting-User: kboyes
When I reply to my email, I would like to indent the text
of the original with "> ".
This is a program option with elm.
Is there an equivalent in NS Mail?
Thanks,
Kevin
--
Kevin Boyes kboyes@multipath.com
Multipath Business Systems Inc. (416)865-9757x239
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: replies in NS Mail
Date: 2 Mar 1996 00:49:05 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-b-68.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4h85u1$ch3@usc.edu>
References: <4h7kho$ub3@noc.tor.hookup.net>
In <4h7kho$ub3@noc.tor.hookup.net> Kevin Boyes wrote:
> When I reply to my email, I would like to indent the text
> of the original with "> ".
> This is a program option with elm.
> Is there an equivalent in NS Mail?
Yes, you need to get EnhanceMail.bundle which is on at least the Peanuts
archives, I believe.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 2 Mar 1996 06:17:00 GMT
Organization: WolfWare (http://www.wolfware.com)
Message-ID: <4h8p4s$out@nntp1.best.com>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4h7do8$qv3@tigger.planet.eon.net>
In-Reply-To: <4h7do8$qv3@tigger.planet.eon.net>
On 03/01/96, Jean-Paul Samson wrote:
>On 03/01/96, Soren Mathiasen wrote:
>>Are there included a news reader on the NS 3.3 cdrom, if not where
>can i find
>>one ???
#DEFINE SHAMELESS_PLUG_ON
NewsFlash, WolfWare's commercial newsreader application is also available from
OpenSource and Object Technologies for only $45 for a single user licence. It
does true article threading, by reference, unlike many of the PD alternatives.
More information and free time limited but fully functional demonstration
versions are available from http://www.wolfware.com.
#DEFINE SHAMELESS_PLUG_OFF
--
Christopher Wolf - WolfWare - cwolf@wolfware.com (NeXTmail & MIME accepted)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
NewsFlash Version 2 - a threaded NeXTSTEP Usenet newsreader -
is now available. Visit http://www.wolfware.com for details!
From: jsamson@agt.net (Jean-Paul Samson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 2 Mar 1996 07:03:17 GMT
Organization: Public Live Access Network (PLAnet)
Message-ID: <4h8rrl$a90@tigger.planet.eon.net>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4h7do8$qv3@tigger.planet.eon.net> <4h8p4s$out@nntp1.best.com>
In-Reply-To: <4h8p4s$out@nntp1.best.com>
On 03/01/96, Christopher Wolf wrote:
>NewsFlash, WolfWare's commercial newsreader application is also
>available from OpenSource and Object Technologies for only $45 for a
>single user licence. It does true article threading, by reference, >
>unlike many of the PD alternatives.
>
>More information and free time limited but fully functional
>demonstration versions are available from http://www.wolfware.com.
I must admit that I've been using the demo version of NewsFlash for
the past week rather than my recommendation, Alexander, simply because
it is the flashier of the two. The demo NewsFlash operates with full
functionality for 15 minutes. However, NewsFlash lacks a browser view
of newsgroups, a handy feature that most other NeXT newreaders sport.
--
-= Jean-Paul (Sean) Samson =------= St. Albert, Alberta, Canada =-
-= jsamson@agt.net =-------------------------= NeXTmail welcome =-
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TIFFanyII Tips and Techniques on the Web?
Date: 2 Mar 1996 07:40:23 GMT
Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main
Message-ID: <4h8u17$19d@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <4h51re$q0j@charlotte.wellesley.edu>
cjones@haakon.wellesley.edu (Carl Jones) wrote:
> I was wondering, however, if any of you might be interested in
> doing something in the way of providing tips and techniques for
> users of TIFFanyII and/or WetPaint which might be added to
> Mmalcolm's site? I've seen a fair number of references to Web
> pages containing techniques for PhotoShop users, etc., and thought
> NS users might be able to benefit from something of the same.
I'd also appreciate a site like this very much.
Bye
Uli
_____________________________________________________________________
Uli Zappe
Lorscher Strasse 5
D-60489 Frankfurt
Germany
Phone: +49 (69) 9784 0007
E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail - Mime - ASCII)
PGP: public key on request
Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
_____________________________________________________________________
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DL -- made one index, some open in DL and some in Edit.app
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:22:06 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960301132124.14542A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
made a DL index via:
ixbuild -gsv -LEnglish
In a folder which was made up of ascii files (old NeXT newsgroups posts).
Problem is that when I select some of them, they are opened in Edit.app,
and some of them are opened in a DL window.
How can I get them all to be opened in DL? What makes this distinction?
Thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles,
swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ,
and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: jorice@cs.tcd.ie (Jonathan Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.rendering.renderman
Subject: WavesWorld - Other FTP Site?
Date: 2 Mar 1996 13:02:03 GMT
Organization: TCD, Computer Science
Message-ID: <4h9gsb$9vt@news.cs.tcd.ie>
I've been trying to connect to the home ftp site for Michael B.
("Wave") Johnson's character animation package "WavesWorld" at
media.mit.edu for over a week now. It always claims that it
has its maximum 40 users and doesn't let me in. This seems
rather unlikely to me, as I have tried at many different
times of the day and night. Anyway, does anyone happen to know if
this package is at some other site (preferably in Europe)? Or
maybe if you have the package stored away somewhere, do you think
I could FTP it from you? I think the final version was 2.31.
-- Jonathan Rice
Dept. Comp. Sci., Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.
--
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 2 Mar 1996 14:44:30 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4h9mse$k9j@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4h7do8$qv3@tigger.planet.eon.net>
<4h8p4s$out@nntp1.best.com> <4h8rrl$a90@tigger.planet.eon.net>
In <4h8rrl$a90@tigger.planet.eon.net> Jean-Paul Samson wrote:
> On 03/01/96, Christopher Wolf wrote:
> >NewsFlash, WolfWare's commercial newsreader application is also
> >available from OpenSource and Object Technologies for only $45 for a
> >single user licence. It does true article threading, by reference, >
> >unlike many of the PD alternatives.
> >
> >More information and free time limited but fully functional
> >demonstration versions are available from http://www.wolfware.com.
>
> I must admit that I've been using the demo version of NewsFlash for
> the past week rather than my recommendation, Alexander, simply because
> it is the flashier of the two. The demo NewsFlash operates with full
> functionality for 15 minutes. However, NewsFlash lacks a browser view
> of newsgroups, a handy feature that most other NeXT newreaders sport.
Don't forget to check out the beta of RadicalNews 0.8.2 currently in the
submissions directory of next-ftp.peak.org. It is also a threaded reader and
sports a really nice interface. An excellent piece of work (and the support
is great!).
- Steve
---
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Database selection for NeXTSTEP
Date: 2 Mar 1996 15:39:48 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4h9q44$lej@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Keywords: Database, programmer API
Hi all!
Recently I've been searching for some apps that I am finding will be critical
to my running a small business. However, I've run into a wall with the
database problem. I was always thinking that NeXTSTEP was geared towards
database connectivity. My main requirements are:
1) There is a programming API that will allow me to programatically access
(save and retreive) the data.
2) There is a nice GUI that will allow me to create/save/access the
information without using straight SQL.
The commercial Oracle and Sybase servers are too expensive for my purposes.
Minirva (mSQL) is free and runs well, but it doesn't have a GUI (although the
free adaptor seems to work).
VarioData Pro says it will interface with SQL servers, but I've been unable
to get it to interface with mSQL. Seems it only understands Sybase and a
few others. If I understood the interface to Sybase, seems I could extend
mSQL to "look like Sybase" just enough to fool VarioData Pro.
Anybody done this?
I don't own DataPhile, but I perused the documentation and it didn't appear
to have a programmer API.
What alternatives to I have for a low cost database? I really would like
something like VarioDataPro or DataPhile but one that includes the programmer
API.
Almost makes me think I would have a Win by using NT and MS Access...
Thoughts? Please respond by email and I'll summarize.
TIA,
Steve
---
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: trombino@wendy.ucsd.edu (Mark Trombino)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Weird behavior after installing FoundationUserPatch
Date: 2 Mar 1996 18:38:48 GMT
Organization: The University of California at San Diego
Message-ID: <4ha4jo$sal@news1.ucsd.edu>
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone else has experienced what I have after installing
the FoundationUserPatch. I installed it yesterday (from the WebObjects demo)
so that I could check out OmniWeb2b5. Then, while using OmniWeb my machine
froze up and I had to cut the power to get it back up. Today, my machine
froze again while I was writing an email letter.
Both times I was running a slip connection. I'm on a NeXT cube with NS 3.2.
Another weird thing happened after bringing my machine up today. I wasn't
slipped up, and when I finished the email that I had started before the
crash, and hit the "deliver" button, and a slip connnection was automatically
brought up. I've done this hundreds of times and it has never done this
before. Very strange. I use SlipCommander to bring my slip connections up
and down.
Think its the FoundationUserPatch? I tried to de-install it but the delete
button on the installer panel wasn't enabled (even though I was root at the
time...)
--
==================================================================
Mark Trombino
trombino@wendy.ucsd.edu
Center For Research in Computing the Arts, U.C.S.D.
==================================================================
From: paul@amber.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Emacs 4.12 available quad-fat for NS3.3p1
Date: 02 Mar 1996 10:27:17 -0600
Organization: Me, organized? You must be joking.
Sender: paul@amber.umsl.edu
Message-ID: <x6ohqfsboa.fsf@amber.umsl.edu>
It's been more than a week since I sent the announcement to
comp.sys.next.announce, and I've seen no sign of it so I'm posting
here.
Emacs.app v4.12, the latest version of Carl Edman's NextStep native
port of emacs, is available at next-ftp.peak.org. It was still in the
submissions directory last I saw. I noticed it's also been copied to
peanuts.
This release is quad fat, but works ONLY for NS3.3 patch 1 - if you're
running a different version of NextStep, haven't applied NeXT's 3.3
patch, or have other specialized needs (as described in the README
file), you'll have to build your own copy from the sources or find
someone to do it for you. The distribution is huge, so I strongly
suggest looking at the README file before you download the package.
--
--paul http://www.umsl.edu/~psanchez/
[L(aB)FFoDM # {WAL(1,t):t\in(0.5,1]}]
=================================================================
Any father who thinks he's all important should remind
himself that this country honors fathers only one day a
year while pickles get a whole week.
=================================================================
From: yibwu@napoleon.plato.sky.bdm.com(Yibing Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help: PPP on NeXT 3.3 White with NXFax.
Date: 3 Mar 1996 04:50:14 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <4hb8e6$g9r@news.mcl.bdm.com>
The following is a mail between me and a PPP guru.
The problems I had:
>I am installing ppp-2.2-0.4.6 on a Intel box running NeXT 3.3. The machine
>had NXFax on it before, I cannot tell the version of NXFax itself, but the
>Monitor program has a version of 1.04.
>...
>after I modified the rc.local and syslog.conf and rebooted the machine,
there
>are many error messages during reboot:
>hostname mach:ttyscc1:receive error 2 (-902)
>hostname mach:ttyscc1:receive error 2 (-900)
>hostname mach:ttyscc1:receive error 2 (-900)
>These three messages came out right after the "Reboot complete" message
>and repeated themselves many times. After that, whenever I tried to run
pppd,
>another error message would show up in the console window:
>pppd[355]: ioctl: TIOCMBIS/BIC: Inappropriate iotcl for device.
His answer:
<Hmmm... are you certain this is correct? This is the error that states
that the serial
<interface was overrun with characters. This could only happen if data were
flowing over <the interface (i.e. PPP or NXFax sent something). PPP is more
likely to generate these.
<Here are several solutions:
< 1) Use a slower DTE speed (38400 instead of 57600). Make sure your
serial
< card or motherboard has 16550 High Speed UARTs.
< 2) Make sure you use /dev/cufa or /dev/cufb.
< 3) Make sure you configure your modem to use Hardware flow control
< 4) If on Intel, Get the latest serial drivers from NeXT answers (version
3.33). These
<work best with PPP. You may need to check with Black and White to make
sure that
<NXFax works OK with them.
< 6) Make sure you give pppd the 'modem' option and that you don't
< give it the 'local' option.
However, I still don't understand:
what is DTE?
How to change/set it?
How do I make sure I use "/dev/cufa or /dev/cufb"? (Are these the tty option
after pppd?)
Can any one land me some help here???
Thanks in advance.
Bing
From: name
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Java & NEXTSTEP
Date: 3 Mar 1996 05:13:19 GMT
Organization: org
Message-ID: <4hb9pf$q34@thales.nmia.com>
I have to do some Java development and I'd like to know if there are any
Java-aware browsers running under NEXTSTEP. Thanks.
From: droux@nmia.com (Nicolas Droux)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Java & NEXTSTEP
Date: 3 Mar 1996 05:18:28 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Internet Access
Message-ID: <4hba34$q34@thales.nmia.com>
[I just realized that the headers of my previous message were not initialized
correctly. Here we go again...]
I have to do some Java development and I'd like to know if there are any
Java-aware browsers running under NEXTSTEP. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
From: Manuel Veloso <veloso@apix.com>
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!
Message-ID: <DnnM92.ELM@sig.net>
Sender: news@sig.net (Signet ISP Network news)
Organization: Active Paper, Inc.
References: <4gjns9$gdv@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:03:01 GMT
In article <4grkma$jat@cdn_news.telecom.com.au> Andrew R. Miller,
andy.miller@apertus.com writes:
>> I do not know one single Mac that runs stable in the sense of
>> "it runs 24 hours a day for more than two weeks without a hangup".
Our server here has been running for 2.5 months straight-up. In that time,
it's been mailed from Santa Fe to Texas to CA and back via UPS, been a
WAN router
between our offices, and is now happily esconced as our internal code,
ftp,
and mail server. Basically, if you've got a Mac that you want to use for
a while as a server, there's a rule you should follow:
no extensions == no problem
Well, at least no unneeded extensions. Timbuktu is on, for example,
because it's headless.
-----------------------------------------
Manny Veloso Digital Plumber
Active Paper, Inc. http://www.apix.com
-----------------------------------------
Charles Darwin called the marine iguanas on the
Galapagos islands his "imps of darkness."
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <4h571m$3co@news.bdsnet.com>
Control: cancel <4h571m$3co@news.bdsnet.com>
Date: 2 Mar 1996 16:29:54 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4h9t22$cr@turbocat.snafu.de>
cancel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (M. Roehr)
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Message-ID: <DnotGs.u3@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte
References: <4h0am0$5ea@news1.channel1.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 10:36:27 GMT
In article <4h0am0$5ea@news1.channel1.com> allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan S.
MacKinnon) writes:
>
> I'm running the demo CD of OW 2.0 and it seems pretty
> good...
>
> Anyone care to comment about it?
>
> ASM
>
>
> --
> --
> Allan MacKinnon Blueprint Design
> allanmac@blueprint.com Boston, MA
> NeXT / MIME Mail Welcome (617) 424-0615
A word-processor without any hyphenation should not be allowed named a
wordprocessor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Manfred
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From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Database selection for NeXTSTEP
Date: 3 Mar 1996 16:59:36 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <4hcj5o$d0u@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <4h9q44$lej@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Keywords: Database, programmer API
Hi!
Based on some looking around I did for a project a little while ago,
I think you want QuickBase from SofDesign. It's a real SQL relational
databaseNEXTSTEP-based, with some bundled GUI tools, and it's something
like US$895 for a 3-user package.
don't have their contact info handy, but a search of the standard sources
should get you started...
--
Steve Weintz * Partner, New Media, Ltd.
P.O. Box 742 * Urbana, IL 61801
steve@dave-world.net * 217.344.5303 * 217.344.8981 fax
Staff Visioneer, Beckman Institute Visualization Facility * indy@uiuc.edu
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: replies in NS Mail
Date: 3 Mar 1996 19:35:55 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4hcsar$gh8@news.its.com>
References: <4h7kho$ub3@noc.tor.hookup.net>
kboyes@noc.tor.hookup.net (Kevin Boyes) wrote:
> When I reply to my email, I would like to indent the text
> of the original with "> ".
> This is a program option with elm.
> Is there an equivalent in NS Mail?
Look for the EnhanceMail bundle on the FTP archives....
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: pscat missing .ct files?
Message-ID: <1996Mar3.132406.75695@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@spanky.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Howard R. Cole)
Date: 3 Mar 96 13:24:06 MDT
Distribution: world
I recently installed NS on an Intel PC. So far I'm quite pleased with
the improved performance compared to my old black hardware.
However, when I attempt to "vgrind" a file, it comes back with an
error saying "pscat: trouble reading .ct file". Now there are .ct files
in the /usr/lib/transcript/troff.font/{Helvetica,Courier,Times} directories,
so what .ct file is it looking for that it can't read?
Thanks for any pointers.
- HRC -
hcole@spanky.idec.sdl.usu.edu
From: Marc@AccessOne.com(Marc Salvatori)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.rendering.renderman
Subject: Re: WavesWorld - Other FTP Site?
Date: 3 Mar 1996 21:29:08 GMT
Organization: AccessOne
Message-ID: <4hd2v4$56d@news.accessone.com>
References: <4h9gsb$9vt@news.cs.tcd.ie>
In <4h9gsb$9vt@news.cs.tcd.ie> Jonathan Rice wrote:
> I've been trying to connect to the home ftp site for Michael B.
> ("Wave") Johnson's character animation package "WavesWorld" at
> media.mit.edu for over a week now. It always claims that it
> has its maximum 40 users and doesn't let me in. This seems
> rather unlikely to me, as I have tried at many different
> times of the day and night. Anyway, does anyone happen to know if
> this package is at some other site (preferably in Europe)? Or
> maybe if you have the package stored away somewhere, do you think
> I could FTP it from you? I think the final version was 2.31.
Have you tried http://wave.www.media.mit.edu/people/wave/?
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori |
><
>< mailto:salvo@eskimo.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted
><
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gdkuch@barrow.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: Does Maple V exist for NeXTSTEP?
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Message-ID: <DnpL4A.4rC@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 20:33:45 GMT
References: <4h66lg$5j9@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4h66lg$5j9@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>,
Stefan Boehringer <stefan.boehringer@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote:
>Furthermore, is there pricing more adequate than with Mathematica =
>(which lacks a student version for NS)?
>TIA
Maple does exist for NEXTSTEP but it's currently a couple of versions behind
at V.2 (V.4 is now the current one). A new version is supposedly on its
way but I don't know which version it will be or when it will appear. If
you're a student the pricing on Maple is very nice.
You can find information at:
http://www.maplesoft.on.ca
along with contact addresses.
--
Jerry Kuch EMail: gdkuch@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca, NeXTMail welcome.
IMPORTANT NEWS: Scripts for "Godzilla Vs. Desutoroia" had envisaged
the monster's main target as the 1996 World City Expo in Tokyo
but the idea fell through when Gov. Yukio Aoshima cancelled the event.
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 21:47:12 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Mar3.214712.8464@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <DnotGs.u3@manki.toppoint.de>
In article <DnotGs.u3@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de (M.
Roehr) writes:
> In article <4h0am0$5ea@news1.channel1.com> allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan
S.
> MacKinnon) writes:
> >
> > I'm running the demo CD of OW 2.0 and it seems pretty
> > good...
> >
> > Anyone care to comment about it?
>
> A word-processor without any hyphenation should not be allowed named a
> wordprocessor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This may apply for your situation. I can honestly say that I have never
ever used, needed or wished for hyphenation in a word processor.
Paul
--
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http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: cjones (Carl Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TIFFanyII Tips and Techniques on the Web?
Date: 3 Mar 1996 22:08:05 GMT
Organization: Wellesley College
Message-ID: <4hd585$hm9@charlotte.wellesley.edu>
References: <4h51re$q0j@charlotte.wellesley.edu> <4h8u17$19d@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
Uli,
Stay tuned. I think it will happen very soon. :-)
Carl
cjones@wellesley.edu
In <4h8u17$19d@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote:
> cjones@haakon.wellesley.edu (Carl Jones) wrote:
> > I was wondering, however, if any of you might be interested in
> > doing something in the way of providing tips and techniques for
> > users of TIFFanyII and/or WetPaint which might be added to
> > Mmalcolm's site? I've seen a fair number of references to Web
> > pages containing techniques for PhotoShop users, etc., and thought
> > NS users might be able to benefit from something of the same.
>
> I'd also appreciate a site like this very much.
>
> Bye
> Uli
>
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
> Uli Zappe
> Lorscher Strasse 5
> D-60489 Frankfurt
> Germany
>
> Phone: +49 (69) 9784 0007
> E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail - Mime - ASCII)
> PGP: public key on request
>
> Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: 3 Mar 1996 22:43:32 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-h-45.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4hd7ak$d06@usc.edu>
References: <DnotGs.u3@manki.toppoint.de> <1996Mar3.214712.8464@seer.demon.co.uk>
In <1996Mar3.214712.8464@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch wrote:
> In article <DnotGs.u3@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de (M.
> Roehr) writes:
> > A word-processor without any hyphenation should not be allowed named a
> > wordprocessor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> This may apply for your situation. I can honestly say that I have never
> ever used, needed or wished for hyphenation in a word processor.
Ditto - I always turn it off if it is a feature.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Message-ID: <9603040047.AA03253@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
From: Aleksey Sudakov <zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 96 03:47:44 +0300
Subject: SUBMISSION: ComponentEditor - First WebObjects Tool - RELEASE 0.02
Cc: ftp@informatik.uni-muenchen.de
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
ComponentEditor - First and Still the Only One WebObjects Tool
RELEASE 0.02 Sun. 3. March 1996
The source and binary(Intel only) distribution of
ComponentEditor.app have been uploaded to
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/submissions
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions
I guess it will finally move to
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Developer/apps
You could always find most recent copy of ComponentEditor at
ftp://ftp.crec.mipt.ru/pub/NeXT
Description.
ComponentEditor.app is very simple editor. Do not expect too much
from it. Remember that it was my one night hack when I finally get
lost in hundreds of Editor.app's windows while checking out
WebObject's examples.
What it does? Not much so far. It just open WebObject's component
directory *.wo and displays files found there (*.html, *.wod, *.wos)
in *one* window.
You can edit and view all three files at once.
Later, I want it to be more powerful tool for WebObject's
components editing like ClassEditor.app by Tomas Engel for ObjC code
editing. Now I need your feedback.
Think about this project as a RFD (request for discussion).
Changes from release 0.01
There ain't much changes, it's just a maintenance release inspired
by your numerous replies. Anyway here is the list of added features
(many thanks to Robert Gottlieb):
- added the ability to switch edited files to whole screen
- added the ability to double click on a .wo file
- added XText so that one can add keybindings
- added the new command to create a new set of files
- added the Windows and Services menus for window control and
of course services
This release contain a lot of bug fixes (again special thanks to
Robert Gottlieb), like ComponentEditor crashed when someone decided
to cancel while opening a component or ComponentEditor generated
empty files, etc. This release is a lot more stable.
The future
I don't know how many time I will spend on ComponentEditor in the
future. OK, here is a wish list
- permethod/pervariable editing is still a wish, but some code have
already been written, so I hope it will be available pretty soon.
- HTML Import/Export/Preview.
- support for setting the permissions on all files that you edit.
- I don't like dwrite stuff. That should be done thru Preference.
Any ideas how it should looks like?
Don't hesitate to send me bug reports for this version or
suggestions and wishes for future releases.
Share and enjoy,
Aleksey.
Contact details:
Name: Aleksey Sudakov
Address:Moscow Institute of Physics & Technologies
Computer Research & Educational Centre
Department of Managment & Applied Math
25 Moscow drive
Dolgoprudny,Moscow region
Russia
Phone: +7(095)408-6641
Fax: +7(095)408-6695
e-mail: zander@cnext..crec.mipt.ru (NeXT mail, MIME ok)
WWW: http://www.crec.mipt.ru/~zander
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 4 Mar 1996 02:42:47 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4hdlb7$a2q@news4.digex.net>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4h7do8$qv3@tigger.planet.eon.net> <4h8p4s$out@nntp1.best.com> <4h8rrl$a90@tigger.planet.eon.net> <4h9mse$k9j@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) wrote:
> Don't forget to check out the beta of RadicalNews 0.8.2 currently in the
submissions directory of next-ftp.peak.org. It is also a threaded reader
and sports a really nice interface. An excellent piece of work (and the
support is great!).
Well, everyone has there own likes and all...I'll just go on the record and
open up my big stupid mouth :) and say I really don't like the RNews UI at
all.
It's another instance of breaking UI conformity rules...
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 4 Mar 1996 02:46:31 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4hdli7$a2q@news4.digex.net>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4h7do8$qv3@tigger.planet.eon.net> <4h8p4s$out@nntp1.best.com>
cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) wrote:
> On 03/01/96, Jean-Paul Samson wrote:
> >On 03/01/96, Soren Mathiasen wrote:
> >>Are there included a news reader on the NS 3.3 cdrom, if not where
> >can i find
> >>one ???
> #DEFINE SHAMELESS_PLUG_ON
> NewsFlash, WolfWare's commercial newsreader application is also available
from OpenSource and Object Technologies for only $45 for a single user
licence. It does true article threading, by reference, unlike many of the
PD alternatives.
> More information and free time limited but fully functional demonstration
versions are available from http://www.wolfware.com.
> #DEFINE SHAMELESS_PLUG_OFF
Might as well finish the job off and prove that when I open my big stupid
mouth up, it's hard to stop :)
I really like the UI of this app. Once the folks add a browser like access
to the newsgroups, icon/people support (I like seeing you guys when I talk
with ya'll :), and sorting by tableView dragging, I'll buy it.
Also, it might be nice if they reconsider making the decoding binary
articles work through a Process Panel ala WM.app and OmniWeb2.app...
It gets a bit window messy otherwise.
Mean time I'm sticking w/ Alexandra .81gad --- fastest version...
Nicest app out there...IMO.
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ingmar@aurora.in-berlin.de (Ingmar Camphausen)
Subject: Re: PGP Graphical Frontend for NeXT????
Message-ID: <1996Mar3.150531.3403@aurora.in-berlin.de>
Organization: Individual Network Berlin e.V.
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960215101052.19335I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 15:05:31 GMT
Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu) wrote:
: > I'm looking for a graphical front end for PGP. Is
: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/util/Encipher.1.0.SHIN.pkg.tar.gz
: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/sources/misc/NXPGP1.0.1.tar.Z
====
There's a newer version of NXPGP available with more features: Try
ftp://ftp.csis.gvsu.edu/pub/next/NXPGP.1.1.2.NIHS.app.tar.gz
for the binary and
ftp://ftp.csis.gvsu.edu/pub/next/NXPGP.1.1.2.s.tar.gz
for the sources.
Bye,
Ingmar
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"Free publicity is worth every penny you pay for it!"
-- Wietse Venema <wietse@wzv.win.tue.nl>, Co-Author of SATAN
__ __
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"Free publicity is worth every penny you pay for it!"
-- Wietse Venema <wietse@wzv.win.tue.nl>, Co-Author of SATAN
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 4 Mar 1996 05:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4hdu8u$2c0@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
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From: hong@csulb.edu (Vision)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Latest NcFTP for NS 3.3
Date: 4 Mar 1996 18:44:56 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Sender: hong@wren.acs.csulb.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <yav91hgbsv3.fsf@wren.acs.csulb.edu>
References: <4gl3hi$210@bud.shadow.net>
In-reply-to: Dino Bagdadi's message of 23 Feb 1996 19:11:46 GMT
Spent long time on this but a bar which shows the percentage of
file being transfered does not show up.
Here is log file.
robin:/usr/local/src/ncftp-2.1.1 120$ diff -c fat/Makefile fat/Makefile.orig
*** fat/Makefile Wed Sep 27 15:17:19 1995
--- fat/Makefile.orig Wed Sep 27 12:42:03 1995
***************
*** 33,44 ****
CC=cc
#CFLAGS=-g -W -Wall -Wimplicit -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes
! CFLAGS=-O2 -g -posix -Dpid_t=int
VPATH=..
! CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include
! LIBS=-lncurses
! LDFLAGS=
# Any -D definitions:
DEFS=-DHAVE_CONFIG_H
--- 33,44 ----
CC=cc
#CFLAGS=-g -W -Wall -Wimplicit -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes
! CFLAGS=-g
VPATH=..
! CPPFLAGS=-I/net/wren/u1/hong/include -I/usr/local/include
! LIBS=-lposix -lcurses
! LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib
# Any -D definitions:
DEFS=-DHAVE_CONFIG_H
In article <4gl3hi$210@bud.shadow.net> Dino Bagdadi <dino@ex-nihilo.com> writes:
From: Dino Bagdadi <dino@ex-nihilo.com>
Keywords: ncftp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 23 Feb 1996 19:11:46 GMT
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Reply-To: Dino Bagdadi <dino@ex-nihilo.com>
Path: csulb.edu!csulb.edu!newshub.csu.net!news.Cerritos.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!ennfs.eas.asu.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.shadow.net!usenet
Lines: 16
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-mia-54.shadow.net
X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) v0.8 Beta
Xref: csulb.edu comp.sys.next.software:25124 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:28170
Has anyone compiled the latest version of NcFTP for NS 3.3? If so, could
someone post the binaries and source to the next ftp sites?
Is it possible for any of the NS web browsers to support NcFTP's commands
(especially the command to continue an aborted/failed transfer)? Gentlemen
(Omni, Netsurfer), are you listening?
Thanks.
--
Dino Bagdadi
ex nihilo, inc.
dino@ex-nihilo.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME)
Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@hyper.shadow.net'
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: How about NeXTstep for SUN
Date: 4 Mar 1996 19:24:13 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4hfg0t$h95@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Howdy,
I just read that there is going to be no NeXTstep 4.0 for SUN. And that
there only will be something called Solaris NEO 1.0 and WorkShop NEO, which
should be compliant with OpenStep.
Does anybody know any details?
Thanks, Rudy
From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTGUI frontend to IRC ?
Date: 27 Feb 1996 23:52:23 GMT
Organization: Academic and Research Network of Slovenia
Message-ID: <4h05fn$hjq@cmir.arnes.si>
References: <DnELrA.H2F@uia.ua.ac.be>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In <DnELrA.H2F@uia.ua.ac.be> Peter Depuydt wrote:
> Hello NeXT commune ..
>
> I am looking for an GUI to irc ...
>
> Greets
Don't! All GUI interfaces to IRC suq deeply! I find Mirc and Virc (on
windows) totally inadequate for ircing... ordinary ircII client is best for
all tasks... I hate, when somebody msgs you in Mirc and you have suddenly
*lots* of windows, that you have to keep track... /whois data go to one
window, /joined people to the other... sux!!! With a good script a text-only
ircII client really rules, I run it in a 80x64 terminal window...
--
*** Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk? ***
Jonas Znidarsic
http://www.jonas.eunet.si
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jgloede@interpc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: Moire pattern across scanned photographs
Message-ID: <DnrCA2.5Ey@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
References: <4h7525$7ak@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 19:18:01 GMT
weintz steven cortelou writes
> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) writes:
>
> >In scanning a few photos I noticed that some of them appear on my
screen with
> >a kind of moire pattern across them.
>
> What you're getting is an interference pattern between the DPI of the
> scanned image and the monitor/printer. 2 workarounds:
> 1) adjust the DPI of your scanned photo
> 2) apply a mild Gaussian blur to the image, then an Unsharp Mask
> (these fileters are available in TIFFany2 and Photoshop)
ad 1) Only a minor change of the scanned dpi is enough.
e.g.: was 300 dpi change to 320 or 280
so long,
jens ch. gloede
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Bounds checking for NS apps
Date: 4 Mar 1996 20:28:04 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <4hfjok$o3l@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Hi,
I'm looking for a bounds checking product for NEXTSTEP applications on Intel
platforms. The product would be similar to the Purify product, which
according to the Purify web page, is not available for NEXTSTEP. The most
important feature required is the checking of reading and writing past the
bounds of arrays.
If you could point me to any products, URLs etc I would appreciate it.
Thanks!
--------------------------------------------------------
Chuck_Esterbrook@OrcaComputer.com NeXTmail welcome
Software Engineer & Analyst pho. (540) 231-3475
Orca Computer, Inc. fax. (540) 231-3480
Blacksburg, VA 24060 http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Spreadsheet Recommendations
Date: 4 Mar 1996 21:11:35 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <4hfma7$ui1@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
G'day,
It's tax time and I need a spreadsheet to summarize and organize my expenses. I
used to do this with Excel, but my wife has absconded with the Powerbook as we
do the dualing doctorate, two-household lifestyle. (Dear, I miss you _far_ more
than the Powerbook! ;)
Anyhow, I've examined Parasheet and IMHO it has got quite a distance to go
before it's ready for prime-time. Quantrix may be able to handle my needs but
I'm not entirely comfortable with the paradigm changes; plus, I tend to get
annoyed at that spinning disk which it tosses up at every opportunity for what
I consider to be very small spreadsheets. I'm running NS3.3 on a decked-out 100
MHz Pentium/Bifrost system which is otherwise fairly quick.
Thus, I think my options consist of Mesa and Questor. (Any others?) I'd like to
be able to drop data/files back and forth between Excel/Mac and my NeXT as well
as have some reasonable ease-of-use, robustness, responsiveness, etc. Having
some legs in terms of long-term support would also be nice.
Can y'all help me out with recommendations, caveats, and opinions? Of course,
telling me to go buy a Mac PowerPC is a viable recommendation -- then I could
run Matlab and FrameMaker 5.0 and play with Java at home...at the severe
expense of explaining to my wife why my expensive NEXTSTEP/PC needs to be
augmented. :(
Thanks much,
Mark.
--
Dr. Mark Kotanchek
Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC with Windows Problem on a Cube -- Help!!
Date: 28 Feb 1996 01:13:22 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
Message-ID: <4h0a7i$8d@dropit.pgh.net>
I posted this a day or so ago from the office but it seems to have
got lost.
When I type win<RETURN>, I get the Windows banner then I get the
window sizing panel. So far, so good. However, when I click the
button to continue, one of three things happens.
Usually, the app just hangs.
Sometimes it crashes with what appears to be a register dump.
Occasionally the hourglass appears and Windows starts up.
I really need to know what to do to make this run right. I don't
know why it does not "just work" like other NeXT apps. I thought, at
first, that this might have something to do with the sizing panel,
but it is not repeatable. I would appreciate any ideas, becaus this
is driving me nuts!
The sytem is currently configured with 8Mb of RAM and a 50Mb disk,
but it did the same thing with 4Mb/25Mb. The Cube has 24Mb of RAM
and a 68040 CPU.
Bob
-----
Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883
me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan S. MacKinnon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: 28 Feb 1996 01:21:04 GMT
Organization: Channel 1 Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4h0am0$5ea@news1.channel1.com>
I'm running the demo CD of OW 2.0 and it seems pretty
good...
Anyone care to comment about it?
ASM
--
--
Allan MacKinnon Blueprint Design
allanmac@blueprint.com Boston, MA
NeXT / MIME Mail Welcome (617) 424-0615
From: potosi@luna.nl (Ton van der Liet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,isu.talk,isu.isunix
Subject: Re: Apple: LICENSE OPENSTEP!!
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 00:12:03 +0100
Organization: potosi
Message-ID: <potosi-0503960012030001@14-pstn.rotterdam.luna.net>
References: <4gjns9$gdv@agate.berkeley.edu> <DnnM92.ELM@sig.net>
In article <DnnM92.ELM@sig.net>, Manuel Veloso <veloso@apix.com> wrote:
> In article <4grkma$jat@cdn_news.telecom.com.au> Andrew R. Miller,
> andy.miller@apertus.com writes:
> >> I do not know one single Mac that runs stable in the sense of
> >> "it runs 24 hours a day for more than two weeks without a hangup".
>
> Our server here has been running for 2.5 months straight-up. In that time,
> it's been mailed from Santa Fe to Texas to CA and back via UPS, been a
> WAN router
> between our offices, and is now happily esconced as our internal code,
> ftp,
> and mail server. Basically, if you've got a Mac that you want to use for
> a while as a server, there's a rule you should follow:
>
> no extensions == no problem
>
> Well, at least no unneeded extensions. Timbuktu is on, for example,
> because it's headless.
> -----------------------------------------
> Manny Veloso Digital Plumber
> Active Paper, Inc. http://www.apix.com
> -----------------------------------------
> Charles Darwin called the marine iguanas on the
> Galapagos islands his "imps of darkness."
I agree,
I've got an LC (yes 16 Mhz 020 with 10 Mb RAM) running months now without
a single hitch as our SMTP mail server on a Windows NT network. (ask me
about upgrading one NT primary domain server and losing the backup in the
process, hahaha)
The MacOS is more stable than Windows 3.11, and 95. Not NT, but that's no
comparisation, it doesn't even let you run programs on it, ok barely.
If you don't run weird extensions and just applications, it's as stable as rock.
--
-------------- Windows will break when pushed too hard -------------
Potosi@luna.nl Ton@bway.net
The Pentium Pro processor may contain design defects or errors known as errata, current characterized errata are available upon request.
- Pentium Pro documentation 1996
From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: spanish dictionary
Date: 4 Mar 1996 19:23:26 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hffve$dd8@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
Originator: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU
Anyone know of a spanish dictionary that will work with
the spell checker in Edit?
Thanks.
Tim
--
Timothy Van Zandt
Department of Economics Email: tvz@princeton.edu
Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050
Princeton, NJ 08544 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTGUI frontend to IRC ?
Date: 5 Mar 1996 00:03:26 GMT
Organization: Academic and Research Network of Slovenia
Message-ID: <4hg0cf$bkq@cmir.arnes.si>
References: <DnELrA.H2F@uia.ua.ac.be> <4h05fn$hjq@cmir.arnes.si>
<4h79km$1s9@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In <4h79km$1s9@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> sean michael willson wrote:
> Although I am partial since I am writing the application (Encircle) I think
> that mIRC and Virc etc really suck....the current release of Encircle 0.11
> is a crude but functional release to get it to the community. I have a m
> major release on the 10th or 11th of March which will be much more
functional
> and more elegent.
Sorry, but I am not able to evaluate Encircle yet, as I am on Intel only (and
Encircle is at the moment only available for black hardware)...
> As far as what mIRC has and doesn't or really what you like and dislike,
how
> would you suggest solving some of the problems? I have used an inspector
> philosophy for issuing commands and such. I also have a tool bar simular to
> Create or Draw.app that is availiable for use. As far as whois I have a
very
> functional window that portrayes what I see as all the necessary info.
>
> So I guess make some suggestions on what you want to see instead of what is
> currently there, lets discuss this?
But my first comment should be this: any IRC client should be 100% ircII
command compatible!!!
Second, it should be ircII script compatible! One should be able to load all
the excellent flood protection scripts available out there!
Third, keep irc warfare OUT! Everybody hates bots and war scripts! Do NOT try
to integrate anything like that into your client! Flood protections are ok, a
must even.
Fourth, one should be able to execute ALL comands with the keyboard! When
ircing, fingers fly, there is no time to chase the rodent around!
Fifth, one should be able to msg chat in a separate window (if one wishes) OR
in the main window.
Sixth, it would be nice to be able to open another session with another nick
(and another server) in a same client. In a case of a netsplit I often have
to keep an eye on the other server to see what is happening there, to check
if someone is trying to takeover my channel...
Seventh, there should be user-definable buttons available with most used
commands
hope this helps...
--
*** Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk? ***
Jonas Znidarsic
http://www.jonas.eunet.si
From: ivo.welch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bounds checking for NS apps
Date: 5 Mar 1996 00:48:19 GMT
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Message-ID: <4hg30j$jh4@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
References: <4hfjok$o3l@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4hfjok$o3l@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
There are some *free* products under LINUX that do this sort of thing, but
none under NeXTStep to the best of my knowledge.
/ivo welch
On 03/04/96, Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm looking for a bounds checking product for NEXTSTEP applications on
Intel
>platforms. The product would be similar to the Purify product, which
>according to the Purify web page, is not available for NEXTSTEP. The most
>important feature required is the checking of reading and writing past the
>bounds of arrays.
>
>If you could point me to any products, URLs etc I would appreciate it.
>
>Thanks!
>
>--------------------------------------------------------
>Chuck_Esterbrook@OrcaComputer.com NeXTmail welcome
>Software Engineer & Analyst pho. (540) 231-3475
>Orca Computer, Inc. fax. (540) 231-3480
>Blacksburg, VA 24060 http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck
>
--
Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu
Assoc Prof of Finance Anderson GSM at UCLA
110 Westwood Plaza, Box 951481, LA CA 90095-1481
UCLA AGSM Finance Faculty Homepage: HTTP://next.agsm.ucla.edu/
From: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai-kee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: bowman and nn on NeXT ?
Date: 28 Feb 1996 04:12:51 GMT
Organization: Engineering Faculty CUHK
Message-ID: <4h0ko4$j87@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk>
1)
Anybody have a compiled nn running on NeXT ?
I tried to compile but failed.
2)
I am using twm with MouseX on NeXT turbo cube mono. I tried to compile
bowman (fvwm based) but failed. Any help ?
Thanks in advance.
Mr.Sai-Kee Wong
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TickleServices on 4.0?
Date: 5 Mar 1996 02:49:42 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <4hga46$5ub@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Hi,
is someone out there who has successfully used TickleServices on NS 4.0
PR2 (NeXT)? If so, please let me know how you accomplished that.
Thanks,
- Stan
---
+-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
| Stan Jirman -- The Swiss CS Guy | |
| stanj@cs.stanford.edu NeXTmail / MIME | When you find yourself |
| http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj/ | in a hole, stop digging |
| Box 2642, Stanford, CA 94309, USA | |
+-------------------------------------------+-------------------------+
From: everhart@intellinet.com (Dwight Everhart)
Newsgroups: rec.games.computer.quake.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTSTEP Quake Test?
Date: 28 Feb 1996 05:13:30 GMT
Organization: IntelliNet-ISP, LLC. 1-800-290-7677
Message-ID: <4h0o9q$67n@zeus.intellinet.com>
Does anyone know if there will be a NEXTSTEP version of Id's Quake test?
The DOS version is out, and now there's a Linux version, so how about
NEXTSTEP? I couldn't find one on any of the FTP sites.
--
Dwight Everhart "The reason Wild Palms is tough to summarize
Ex Nicole Bobek Coach is the same reason it's hard to summarize most
Bella Vista, Arkansas Twin Peaks episodes -- the audience is left with
everhart@alterlife.com a 'Huh?' continually ringing in their heads."
-- Joshua Henry Geurink
From: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de (Ingo Feulner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 4 Mar 1996 09:15:59 GMT
Organization: Private site, Boeblingen, Germany
Message-ID: <4heccf$i0s@xenon.stgt.sub.org>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4h7do8$qv3@tigger.planet.eon.net>
<4h8p4s$out@nntp1.best.com> <4h8rrl$a90@tigger.planet.eon.net>
<4h9mse$k9j@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
In <4h9mse$k9j@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Stephen J. Perkins wrote:
> In <4h8rrl$a90@tigger.planet.eon.net> Jean-Paul Samson wrote:
> > On 03/01/96, Christopher Wolf wrote:
> > >NewsFlash, WolfWare's commercial newsreader application is also
> > I must admit that I've been using the demo version of NewsFlash for
> > the past week rather than my recommendation, Alexander, simply because
>
> Don't forget to check out the beta of RadicalNews 0.8.2 currently in the
> submissions directory of next-ftp.peak.org. It is also a threaded reader
and
> sports a really nice interface. An excellent piece of work (and the support
> is great!).
And it has support for ISO-8859 character encoding and soon will implement
MIME. MIME is a must today, I really don't know why the other newsreaders
available for NS don't have that feature... (especially the commercial
ones...)
-Ingo.
--
Smail: Ingo Feulner, Wolfacher Weg 19, 71034 Boeblingen, Germany
Email: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ekraft@netcom.com (Erik Kraft)
Subject: Re: Need info on Fatted Calf CD
Message-ID: <ekraftDnH6C0.3GM@netcom.com>
References: <DnELrA.H2F@uia.ua.ac.be> <4gte57$k40@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 07:33:36 GMT
Sender: ekraft@netcom15.netcom.com
joisha@ces.cwru.edu (G.Prashanth Joisha) wrote:
>Hi all,
>
> Can someone tell as to where I could get hold of Fatted Calf CD. I
>need the Vendor's name and Phone number.
Ensuing Technologies
4220 S. Maryland Pkwy, Suite 406
Las Vegas, Nevada 89119
702-792-6799
702-792-6794 fax
1-800-788-2466
info@ensuing.com
Open 9am - 5pm weekdays and sporatically on weekends.
The Fatted Calf CD is $30 plus $3 shipping (Priority Mail).
>Thanks in advance,
You're welcome.
--
erik kraft
3DO and NextStep Programmer
ekraft@ensuing.com [ NeXTMail and MIME okay ]
From: tralala@cam.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP and Mail.app
Date: 28 Feb 1996 08:54:30 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada
Message-ID: <4h1586$ci@tandem.CAM.ORG>
References: <4gdf1i$v7u@wycliffe.covenant.edu> <4gkn1c$jce@tandem.CAM.ORG> <x67mxcczkj.fsf@amber.umsl.edu>
In-Reply-To: <x67mxcczkj.fsf@amber.umsl.edu>
On 02/24/96, Paul J. Sanchez wrote:
>CryptorBundle has two major flaws (at least when I last looked
> at it).
>1) It encrypts under NextMail, so you can only communicate with
> other NeXT owners, and
Not quite true, you can use the many PGP shell commands for that
purpose. Please read the PGP documentation.
e.g. Sending encrypted mail attachments (ASCII).
> 2) When you decrypt, your mail is decrypted rather
>than just displayed - anyone can read it subsequently.
>
You can re-encrypt a decrypted messages and mail it to yourself
if you wish to maintain an encrypted archive.
Another alternative is to have your correspondant use the "For
Your Eyes Only" option. Hence, his message would "only" be
displayed on your screen.
-Andre
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP and Mail.app
Date: 28 Feb 1996 10:24:36 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-f-57.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4h1ah4$rm1@usc.edu>
References: <4gdf1i$v7u@wycliffe.covenant.edu> <4gkn1c$jce@tandem.CAM.ORG>
<x67mxcczkj.fsf@amber.umsl.edu> <4h1586$ci@tandem.CAM.ORG>
In <4h1586$ci@tandem.CAM.ORG> tralala@cam.org wrote:
> On 02/24/96, Paul J. Sanchez wrote:
> >CryptorBundle has two major flaws (at least when I last looked
> > at it).
> >1) It encrypts under NextMail, so you can only communicate with
> > other NeXT owners, and
>
> Not quite true, you can use the many PGP shell commands for that
> purpose. Please read the PGP documentation.
> e.g. Sending encrypted mail attachments (ASCII).
I have found that the combination of Cryptor.bundle and Encipher.app to be
all I need for mailing and archiving and key mangement purposes.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: SoftPC for black hw?
Message-ID: <DnHG5o.Iou@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <4gta1r$37o@news.iastate.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:05:47 GMT
In article <4gta1r$37o@news.iastate.edu> rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu
(Rod Ragner) writes:
> The SoftPC 3.0 demo runs for 20 minutes then quits. You can run it
over
> and over, but only 20 minutes consecutively. Unfortunately, this does
not
> give you much time! I was not able to get WordPerfect 6.0 for Windows
> installed on my NeXTstation Turbo in under 20 minutes, so I gave up.
WordPerfect6.0 requires >386 (and thinks it needs enhanced mode). It
works fine on SPC4.x (Pseudo enhanced mode), but will not run on 3.0
which is 286 (standard mode) only. (WP5.0 is probably OK on 3.0)
> I believe that Insignia charges $600 for a SoftPC 3.0 for NeXT
license,
> while they only charge $300 for a SoftPC 4.1 for Intel license.
While I don't know the exact figures I can confirm that 3.0 for black is
much more expensive than 4.0 for Intel. I agree that this is dumb - its
a legacy thing. I can only assume that 3.0 was priced as per other Unix
products whereas 4.0 was running on PC hardware, therefore priced
comparable to our Mac product. Nobody was interested in reveiwing the
old price when 4.0 was introduced because it was an "obsolete" product.
I had nothing to do with this scenario, and the above is just my
opinion. If you want to change this then a sugguest you lobby the sales
dept. They have very little interest in Spc3.0 for Black so you might
have problems getting someone who even knows it exists!
Ian
(btw - if 3.0 hangs when starting windows then this is a known bug [NeXT
changed something in NS3.2], and a patch can be downloaded from
ftp.insignia.com to fix this).
$
From: Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bounds checking for NS apps
Date: 5 Mar 1996 02:16:18 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <4hg85i$pft@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <4hfjok$o3l@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <4hg30j$jh4@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
On 03/04/96, Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com wrote:
> >I'm looking for a bounds checking product for NEXTSTEP applications on
> >Intel platforms. The product would be similar to the Purify product, which
> >according to the Purify web page, is not available for NEXTSTEP. The most
> >important feature required is the checking of reading and writing past the
> >bounds of arrays.
In <4hg30j$jh4@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> Ivo Welch wrote:
> There are some *free* products under LINUX that do this sort of thing, but
> none under NeXTStep to the best of my knowledge.
There are also a free set of patches against recent versions of gcc available
which add bounds checking on the compiler level. The only question is
whether the current version of gcc compiles under NS. Anybody tried ?
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <maurice@tlpnl.tlp.nl>
From: Maurice Le Rutte <maurice@tlpnl.tlp.nl>
Message-ID: <9603051044.AA06407@tlpnl.tlp.nl>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 96 11:44:35 +0100
Subject: Re: replies in NS Mail
Kevin Boyes (kboyes@noc.tor.hookup.net) wrote:
> When I reply to my email, I would like to indent
> the text of the original with "> ". This is a
> program option with elm. Is there an equivalent
> in NS Mail?
> Thanks, Kevin
You can use the 'Wrap and Reply' service of terminal. Copy the text you want to reply to (please, not too much!) into your compose window, select it and choose Services->Terminal->Wrap and Reply.
Maurice.
From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Message-ID: <1996Mar5.134610.46101@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 5 Mar 96 13:46:10 MET
References: <DnotGs.u3@manki.toppoint.de> <4hd7ak$d06@usc.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
In article <4hd7ak$d06@usc.edu>, reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) writes:
> In <1996Mar3.214712.8464@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch wrote:
>> In article <DnotGs.u3@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de (M.
>> Roehr) writes:
>> > A word-processor without any hyphenation should not be allowed named a
>> > wordprocessor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> This may apply for your situation. I can honestly say that I have never
>> ever used, needed or wished for hyphenation in a word processor.
>
> Ditto - I always turn it off if it is a feature.
>
>
This might be correct for the english language (if you have only words with
3 or 4 letters you don't need hyphenation), but typesetting justified text
in german is absolutely impossible and unacceptable without hyphenation.
I cannot understand, why they cannot even offer the possibility of a
key-short-cut, so that we can at least put in soft-hyphens by hand
(like in the old WriteNow), and I hate this stupid idea that the main menu
is not accessible via a nibfile so that I could put in my changes alone :-P
So I'll continue to use WriteNow...
***************************************************************
Daniel Haas
Physikalisches Institut
Universitaet Basel
email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please)
smail: D. Haas, Kreuzstrasse 150, D-79540 Loerrach, Germany
homepage: http://www1.psi.ch/~haasd/home.html
(incl. links to magic, search pages and more)
***************************************************************
"Bill Gates wife has informed him that the deployment of
Bill Gates IV has been delayed for another 6 months due to
a redesign of the user interface."
***************************************************************
From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CFP (2): Save OPENSTEP for HP-PA
Date: 5 Mar 1996 17:20:44 GMT
Organization: GMD-FOKUS
Message-ID: <4hht5c$7p7@stern.fokus.gmd.de>
Dear colleagues,
I repeat my call for participation in a petition to NeXT and HP. Several
sources has proved true, that NeXT will not support the HP platform anymore.
So send me your remarks and electronic business card to forward it to NeXT!
The first draft of the covering letter to NeXT and to HP could be find at the
end of this posting. Any help is appreciated to correct it or make it even
better ;-)
I'll collect all replies by March 15. What do you think is the best e-mail or
postal address to send the petition to?
Robert.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert Fischer, GMD-Fokus, Berlin
GMD - German National Research Center for Information Technology
FOKUS - Research Institute for Open Communication Systems
fischer@fokus.gmd.de ## NeXT-Mail welcome ##
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/ovma/employees/fischer/
------------------------------------------------------------------
========= Petition for saving OPENSTEP/HP-PA ===========
Dear Madams and Sirs,
all rumours that NeXT don't want to support the HP-PA platform seem to become
true. All the signatories of this petition beg you to think over this decision
one more time.
We all think this is an extremely poor decision on the part of NeXT. It may be
penny wise, but it is certainly pound foolish, because it shows a lack of an
extremely important quality for a corporation --- integrity. Integrity always
involves some sacrifice on the micro-scale, but serves to promote macro-scale
qualities --- e.g. trust and solidity. NeXT probably figured out that
supporting HP-PA wasn't worth the revenue it would generate. That's the
micro-scale. But dropping HP support undermines trust in making any kind of
resource commitment toward NeXT --- NeXT appears to lack integrity towards its
users.
Sure, the day will come, when *the* NeXT computer will not be supported anymore
but this hardware has had its best days. The HP platform is powerful and
'up-to-date' and will be built and supported the next years at least. Many of
the signatories have invested in this platform or are planning to do so. They
will switch to another hardware or --- to another software platform, which
couldn't be in your interests.
Moreover many of us will loose not even money, but - which will be of more
importance at all - we will loose our confidence in NeXT.
Best regards,
- all the signatories -
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bounds checking for NS apps
Date: 5 Mar 1996 17:01:43 GMT
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <4hhs1n$s04@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <4hfjok$o3l@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <4hg30j$jh4@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
<4hg85i$pft@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
In <4hg85i$pft@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Carl Edman wrote:
> On 03/04/96, Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com wrote:
> > >I'm looking for a bounds checking product for NEXTSTEP applications on
> > >Intel platforms. The product would be similar to the Purify product,
which
> > >according to the Purify web page, is not available for NEXTSTEP. The
most
> > >important feature required is the checking of reading and writing past
the
> > >bounds of arrays.
>
> In <4hg30j$jh4@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> Ivo Welch wrote:
> > There are some *free* products under LINUX that do this sort of thing,
but
> > none under NeXTStep to the best of my knowledge.
>
> There are also a free set of patches against recent versions of gcc
available
> which add bounds checking on the compiler level. The only question is
> whether the current version of gcc compiles under NS. Anybody tried ?
>
I haven't tried the bounds checking patches, but both gcc 2.7.2
and g77 (gnu fortran) compile and work pretty nicely on
my slab (NS 3.2). I use gcc all the time now instead
of the NeXT cc. Don't know about Intel yet.
Eugene
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail)
Systems Administrator "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words Bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/
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From: tralala@cam.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 5 Mar 1996 16:42:04 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada
Message-ID: <4hhqss$jqp@tandem.CAM.ORG>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk>
In-Reply-To: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk>
On 03/01/96, Soren Mathiasen wrote:
>
>Are there included a news reader on the NS 3.3 cdrom, if not
> where can i find one ???
>
>Thanks, Soren
>
>
NewsFlash v.2.275 is great!
See: http://www.wolfware.com/
Welll worth its small fee of 45$...
-Andre
From: bosborne@nature.berkeley.edu (Brian Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: top for NeXT ?
Date: 5 Mar 1996 20:22:46 GMT
Organization: Plant Gene Expression Center
Sender: bosborne@nature.berkeley.edu
Message-ID: <4hi7qm$5q9@agate.berkeley.edu>
Summary: top NeXT
Keywords: top NeXT
To the Group,
I just downloaded the top package (3.4 beta), but I don't see
a module for NeXT. I'm running 3.3 on a NeXTStation. Has anyone
compiled top on their NeXT ? Or, can anyone tell me if they know
of any plan to make a module for NeXT ? I noticed in one of the
docs that the author mentions that he is collaborating with two
people to try and make a NeXT module. Any news on this ?
Thanks for your attention to this matter,
Brian O.
bosborne@nature.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Message-ID: <1996Mar5.202327.5949@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4hd7ak$d06@usc.edu>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:23:27 GMT
In article <4hd7ak$d06@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
writes:
> In <1996Mar3.214712.8464@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch wrote:
> > In article <DnotGs.u3@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de
> > (M. Roehr) writes:
> > > A word-processor without any hyphenation should not be allowed
> > > named a wordprocessor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > This may apply for your situation. I can honestly say that I
> > have never ever used, needed or wished for hyphenation in a
> > word processor.
>
> Ditto - I always turn it off if it is a feature.
>
Another case of cultural diversity ;-)
In a language where the regular usage of of words longer than six
characters makes you a liguistic oddball has almost no need for
hyphenation. German grammer restraines you to military training ground
jargon if you have to avoid them.
A German text looks extremely ragged if set left justified and shows a
considerable amount of "white rivers" when set in blocks. You need
hyphenation to get an estetically pleasing result.
"Simple" syllable based automatic hyphenation on the other hand is also
not desirable if not manually adjustable since it violates German grammer
in many cases (WriteUp has no working "German" hyphenation because its
syllable based algorith allows for no manual corrections).
As a matter of fact, MS Word has a very strong place in the German market
as being the only WYSIWYG word processor with decent German hyphenation
(followed by WordPerfect and some "German only" products). German
academic users (not only NEXTSTEPers, of course) stay with LaTeX since you
can get some decent German spelling and hyphenation support for it (and
it's free, also :-).
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp, MIME, NeXTmail # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu>
Subject: Re: PGP and Mail.app
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960305103140.273C-100000@lipschitz>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:29:09 -0600
In-Reply-To: <ec1d96yxm3k.fsf@stonewall.umsl.edu>
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
On 29 Feb 1996, Paul J. Sanchez wrote:
| Your arguments support my point, which is that CryptorBundle is not a
| complete solution for people who want to use PGP - 1) To communicate
| with non-NeXT users, which is the majority of the world, you need to
| bail out of CryptorBundle (and there's no need to be snide - I know
| how to use the command line.) An effective solution shouldn't require
| you to use other tools for the majority of cases! 2) A security tool
| shouldn't require you to work around its weakness by re-encrypting to
| yourself, or to rely on the judgement of others.
|
The structure of a CryptorBundle message suggests that it was only intended
to be used for NeXT mail. There was already a front end for use with
non-NeXT mail called NXPGP.app. Once NXPGP.app is in ~/Apps, PGP services
are available to any editor including Mail.app.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: 2.6.2
Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.b, a Pine/PGP interface.
iQCVAwUBMTyH4OBu0383Om6dAQF/5AP/SJiyC8g3TQCT6O4WQBoc3Ns8Dmz7oMzw
538ja0y7NfdClKerwLHDZeewHy1W79zyXKDq7b8/lyoMAGf5Ss+SEYEq7TEzSGav
JkXm0/0yKCauYkSdT9n7XmWtb/2Lnz+TIz5XFFiD7D9SBC79+5skhDYrnBIL6vCX
goB//iW97+E=
=uur1
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka 49860926614586AF
"The strongest reason for the people to retain their 54105BA338FBF0FB
right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort,
to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP and Mail.app
Date: 29 Feb 1996 00:05:22 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4h2qk2$lfg@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4gdf1i$v7u@wycliffe.covenant.edu> <4gkn1c$jce@tandem.CAM.ORG> <x67mxcczkj.fsf@amber.umsl.edu> <4h1586$ci@tandem.CAM.ORG>
tralala@cam.org wrote:
> On 02/24/96, Paul J. Sanchez wrote:
> > CryptorBundle has two major flaws (at least when I last looked
> > at it).
> > 1) It encrypts under NextMail, so you can only communicate
> > with other NeXT owners, and
>
> Not quite true, you can use the many PGP shell commands for that
> purpose. Please read the PGP documentation. e.g. Sending encrypted
> mail attachments (ASCII).
This is a function of PGP, it is not a function of CryptorBundle.
You do not need CryptorBundle to get that function, and when you
use that function you are not using it thru CryptorBundle.
Resorting to PGP shell commands to send PGP-ed mail to someone who
can't handle NeXTmail is a pretty major flaw for this kind of
program.
> > 2) When you decrypt, your mail is decrypted rather
> > than just displayed - anyone can read it subsequently.
>
> You can re-encrypt a decrypted messages and mail it to yourself
> if you wish to maintain an encrypted archive.
Ugh.
> Another alternative is to have your correspondant use the "For
> Your Eyes Only" option. Hence, his message would "only" be
> displayed on your screen.
I think it's easier to just agree with the two flaws that Paul
described than to come up with elaborate work-arounds for them.
In my case I use PGP with PGP.ts (tickleservices module), or
would take a look at Encipher.app. It is nice how Cryptorbundle
integrates with Mail.app, but there are problems due to the very
nature of the Mail.app side of that interface.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
ITS Systems Programmer (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu>
Subject: Re: generating NeXT mail. Was: Re: How to rebuild table_of_contents without Mail.app
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960305185653.5387B-100000@lipschitz>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:59:25 -0600
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960229102438.973H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Organization: As little as I can get away with...
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960215105021.19335L-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4gd8a6$1mt@lanshark.lanminds.com> <Pine.NXT.3.91.960228191219.2056A-100000@lipschitz> <Pine.NXT.3.91.960229102438.973H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:
| There is no
| good way to send an attachment with a message either.
Whatsamatta with send_attach?
-- kc
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <4gu833$n4m@is05.micron.net>
Control: cancel <4gu833$n4m@is05.micron.net>
Date: 29 Feb 1996 09:53:43 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4h3t37$bq@turbocat.snafu.de>
cancel
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: URGENT HELP! file recovery
Date: 29 Feb 1996 10:00:29 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4h3tft$bq@turbocat.snafu.de>
References: <4h224f$o7a@news.tamu.edu>
stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) wrote:
> Does anyone know of a way to recover files after they have been DESTROYED
> from the NS Workspace - a utility I can get, a company that will do it?
"gnutar xvzf /dev/rst0" ;-)
_ _
_(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development,
(_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG,
_/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152
(______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung)
Subject: TeXView and PostScript
Message-ID: <vfr750Dnu2rL.Cvz@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 06:45:21 GMT
Sender: vfr750@netcom21.netcom.com
Hi all! It seems that TeXView does not support the Page Layout
features of the standard NeXT print panel (specifically 2up or 4up
printing).
I've got a nice 100+ page .dvi file that I'd like to print, however
I'd rather not eat all that paper, so I was wondering if perhaps there
was something sitting around somewhere that take a properly formatted
PS file and make a 2up document out of it. I could save the PS
generated by TeXView to a file, and then squeeze it through that kind
of utility.
Thanx for any suggestions that you can share.
--
Will Hartung - Rancho Santa Margarita. It's a dry heat. vfr750@netcom.com
1990 VFR750 - VFR=Very Red "Ho, HaHa, Dodge, Parry, Spin, HA! THRUST!"
1993 Explorer - Cage? Hell, it's a prison. -D. Duck
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 06:57:28 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Mar6.065728.17169@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <1996Mar5.202327.5949@nidat.sub.org>
In article <1996Mar5.202327.5949@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org
(Peter Nitezki) writes:
> In article <4hd7ak$d06@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N.
Reichman)
> writes:
> > In <1996Mar3.214712.8464@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch wrote:
> > > In article <DnotGs.u3@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de
> > > (M. Roehr) writes:
> > > > A word-processor without any hyphenation should not be allowed
> > > > named a wordprocessor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >
> > > This may apply for your situation. I can honestly say that I
> > > have never ever used, needed or wished for hyphenation in a
> > > word processor.
> >
> > Ditto - I always turn it off if it is a feature.
> >
> Another case of cultural diversity ;-)
So true :-). I fully accept the importance of hyphenation for the German
market, and also the relative significance of the German market to the
overall NeXTSTEP market. Both are very important.
However, I don't like to see a succession of posts like the original,
without some sort of counterbalance. A WP without hyphenation is a
perfectly good WP in the English speaking world.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: Paul Heffernan <phef@cedar.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:58:00 +0000
Organization: Cedar Systems
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <JdqIwGAoGWPxEwl0@cedar.co.uk>
References: <DnotGs.u3@manki.toppoint.de> <4hd7ak$d06@usc.edu>
<1996Mar5.134610.46101@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Daniel,
We will shortly be releasing a budget word processor called CedarWord.
As well as facilitating manual hyphenation, it also incorporates
automatic hyphenation.
The automatic hyphenation uses the Liant algorithm as used in TeX, and
uses the standard TeX hypenation data files so can be used with most
languages.
As well as being able to control the granularity of hyphenation at the
document level, hyphenation may be switched off/on at style level also!
If you like, I could provide you with an early access copy in the near
future?
Regards,
Paul.
------------------------------------------------------------------
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Cedar Systems, 2440 The Quadrant, Aztec West, Bristol BS12 4AQ, UK
Phone: +44 (0) 1454 878708
Fax : +44 (0) 1454 878608
From: cikan@par.univie.ac.at (Edwin CIKAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 6 Mar 1996 10:14:58 GMT
Organization: Vienna University, Austria
Message-ID: <4hjoj2$1vk2@ftp.univie.ac.at>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4hhqss$jqp@tandem.CAM.ORG>
In-Reply-To: <4hhqss$jqp@tandem.CAM.ORG>
On 03/05/96, tralala@cam.org wrote:
>On 03/01/96, Soren Mathiasen wrote:
>>
>>Are there included a news reader on the NS 3.3 cdrom, if not
>> where can i find one ???
>>
>>Thanks, Soren
>>
>>
>NewsFlash v.2.275 is great!
>
>See: http://www.wolfware.com/
>
>Welll worth its small fee of 45$...
>
YES.
Regards, Edwin.
--
Edwin CIKAN
Systems Manager
University of Vienna
Department of Software Technology and Parallel Systems
Liechtensteinstrasse 22
A-1090 Vienna, Austria (EUROPE)
e-mail: cikan@par.univie.ac.at (Internet)
Tel.: +43 1 3105608-84
Fax: +43 1 3105608-90
From: jmm@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Stuart for NS Intel?
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:07:28 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <960306060728.817AABqE.jmm@reid.econ.lsa.umich.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Is the shareware Stuart terminal program available for the Intel platform?
in next-ftp.peak.org I found only a binary compiled for black hardware...
jmm@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.graphics.rendering.renderman
From: wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson)
Subject: Re: WavesWorld - Other FTP Site?
Message-ID: <1996Mar3.211510.8126@media.mit.edu>
Sender: news@media.mit.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: Pixar Animation Studios (East Coast Office)
References: <4h9gsb$9vt@news.cs.tcd.ie>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 21:15:10 GMT
In article <4h9gsb$9vt@news.cs.tcd.ie> jorice@cs.tcd.ie (Jonathan Rice) writes:
>>I've been trying to connect to the home ftp site for Michael B.
>>("Wave") Johnson's character animation package "WavesWorld" at
>>media.mit.edu for over a week now. It always claims that it
>>has its maximum 40 users and doesn't let me in. This seems
>>rather unlikely to me, as I have tried at many different
>>times of the day and night. Anyway, does anyone happen to know if
>>this package is at some other site (preferably in Europe)? Or
>>maybe if you have the package stored away somewhere, do you think
>>I could FTP it from you? I think the final version was 2.31.
>>
For leagal reasons, I really don't want this stuff replicated on other
ftp sites.
The MIT Media Lab's ftp server has been undergoing a brain transplant
in the past few weeks (I think they're putting it on some uber-muscled
Alpha), so that might have been part of the problem. Please feel free
to contact me directly with questions.
Having said that, though, I just anonymously ftp'ed there with no
problem:
welles> ftp media.mit.edu
Connected to media.mit.edu.
220 media-lab.media.mit.edu FTP server (Version wu-2.4(1) Mon Mar 27
15:42:22 EST 1995) ready.
Name (media.mit.edu:wave): anonymous
331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
Password:
230-You have connected to the MIT Media Laboratory FTP server.
230-All transactions are being logged.
230-Please send any questions or comments to ftp@media.mit.edu.
230-
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
ftp> cd pub/WavesWorld
250 CWD command successful.
ftp> ls -l
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
total 18957
d--x--x--x 2 20296 512 Oct 17 00:51 2.0
drwxrwxrwx 2 20296 512 Jan 31 17:20 2.31
-rw-r--r-- 1 20296 19043561 Nov 15 19:28 OldExamples.tar.gz
-rw-rw-rw- 1 20296 242 Aug 26 1994 README
-rw-r--r-- 1 20296 141003 Nov 15 19:29 Shaders.tar.gz
-rwxrwxr-x 1 20296 169952 Jan 28 1995 anim2mov.gz
drwxrwxrwx 2 20296 512 Oct 17 00:51 doc
drwxrwxrwx 2 20296 512 Oct 17 00:51 models
226 Transfer complete.
remote: -l
454 bytes received in 0.15 seconds (2.96 Kbytes/s)
ftp>
--
--> Michael B. Johnson, SMVS, Ph.D. -- wave@media.mit.edu|wave@pixar.com
--> http://wave.www.media.mit.edu/people/wave/
--> alumnus, MIT Media Lab, Computer Graphics & Animation Group
--> Media Arts Technologist, Pixar Animation Studios (East Coast Office)
From: kopacik@alpha.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk (Ivan Kopacik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wacom & Nec drivers
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:10:44 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Mathematics and Physics, Comenius University, Bratislava, Slovakia
Sender: news@sk2eu.eunet.sk (News Administrator)
Message-ID: <DnuF1x.JyL@sk2eu.eunet.sk>
Dear all,
I urgently need pointerts to:
Wacom Tablet driver for NEXSTEP 3.3 (Intel)
SVGA driver for NEC Versa 4050h versa
thank you
kopacik@dcs.fmph.uniba.sk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mosh (Dennis Michl)
Subject: Re: News reader
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID: <960305200338.1135AAFxE.mosh@darmok>
Sender: news@news.limmat.ch (News Admin)
Organization: Limmat-Net, Zuerich - http://www.limmat.ch
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4h7do8$qv3@tigger.planet.eon.net> <4h8p4s$out@nntp1.best.com> <4hdli7$a2q@news4.digex.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 19:03:38 GMT
Dudes,
how about Eloquent? It's a mail reader as well as a news reader!
-MoSH
From: yucheng @math.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeXView and PostScript
Date: 6 Mar 1996 09:19:08 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <4hjlac$k8o@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
References: <vfr750Dnu2rL.Cvz@netcom.com>
In <vfr750Dnu2rL.Cvz@netcom.com> Will Hartung wrote:
> I've got a nice 100+ page .dvi file that I'd like to print, however
> I'd rather not eat all that paper, so I was wondering if perhaps there
> was something sitting around somewhere that take a properly formatted
> PS file and make a 2up document out of it. I could save the PS
> generated by TeXView to a file, and then squeeze it through that kind
> of utility.
You can try /usr/bin/psnup. It does the job pretty well. However, since you
mentioned that the PS file is generated from a DVI file, if you don't have
those PostScript TeX fonts, the output quality could be very bad, for the
reason that TeX fonts are not resizable. To get a better output quality, I'd
recommend you install BaKoma ( or something like that) PostScript TeX fonts
from any TeX archive site.
Yuwen Cheng
yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: fordp@polaris.net (Perrone Ford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: eps to tiff converter
Date: 5 Mar 1996 22:25:28 -0500
Organization: Polaris Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <4hj0j8$9if@nexus.polaris.net>
Hello,
I am looking for what I think should be VERY simple. I need to
convert an EPS image to tiff format. I have used all the basic tools
to try and get the job done, but to no avail. All of the tools that I
have at my disposal convert the image to a tiff with a 72dpi resolution.
Now I don't know about YOUR print habits, but 72dpi images look pretty
rough coming out of MY NeXTPrinter.
Does anyone have a better mousetrap? Or would someone be willing to
"loan" me a license for tiffany for a week? I just have one project
to finish, and I will be done. How much IS a license for TiffanyII anyway?
-P
--
<----------------------------------------------------------->
Perrone Ford 1320 Terrace St.
HighTime Web Development Tallahassee, FL 32303
(904) 222-0620 or 681-6322 hightime@polaris.net
From: mp@rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Martin Pruefer DL8OAU)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Latest NcFTP for NS 3.3
Date: 6 Mar 96 12:52:48 GMT
Organization: TU Braunschweig, Informatik (Bueltenweg), Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <mp.826116768@maud.rob.cs.tu-bs.de>
References: <4gl3hi$210@bud.shadow.net> <yav91hgbsv3.fsf@wren.acs.csulb.edu>
hong@csulb.edu (Vision) writes:
> Is it possible for any of the NS web browsers to support NcFTP's commands
> (especially the command to continue an aborted/failed transfer)? Gentlemen
> (Omni, Netsurfer), are you listening?
> Thanks.
Try Yftp. It is great, uses his own cache, and works quite stable.
Martin
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Institute for Robotics and Computer Control | __ Fax: +49 531/391-5696
Technical University of Braunschweig | /\_\ Why use Windows since
Hamburger Str. 267, 38114 Braunschweig, FRG | \/_/ there are doors?
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bounds checking for NS apps
Date: 6 Mar 1996 14:32:38 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4hk7m7$1f0@news.its.com>
References: <4hfjok$o3l@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com wrote:
> I'm looking for a bounds checking product for NEXTSTEP applications on
> Intel platforms. The product would be similar to the Purify product, which
> according to the Purify web page, is not available for NEXTSTEP.
Yup. I talked with the people from Purify a couple of years back about
porting Purify or writing a similar tool from scratch. The project never got
out of the planning stage since (a) Purify wasn't interested, and (b) it
would have required a great deal of information about things such as how the
system loader and shared libraries work that NeXT wasn't willing or able to
document adequately.
So there aren't any post-compilation tools available. Try including runtime
checks into your code (as in Carl's suggestion to patch the compiler).
> The most important feature required is the checking of reading and writing
> past the bounds of arrays.
As a purely practical experiment, have you tried running your code after
declaring automatic local arrays to be static? This is helpful for
preventing array overruns from blowing away the stack and rendering the
program undebuggable.
Or try using the Foundation kit; it lets you do things at a higher level....
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeXView and PostScript
Date: 6 Mar 1996 16:35:32 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <4hkesk$ap3@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <vfr750Dnu2rL.Cvz@netcom.com>
Will Hartung (vfr750@netcom.com) wrote:
: Hi all! It seems that TeXView does not support the Page Layout
: features of the standard NeXT print panel (specifically 2up or 4up
: printing).
: I've got a nice 100+ page .dvi file that I'd like to print, however
: I'd rather not eat all that paper, so I was wondering if perhaps there
: was something sitting around somewhere that take a properly formatted
: PS file and make a 2up document out of it. I could save the PS
: generated by TeXView to a file, and then squeeze it through that kind
: of utility.
If you really want to get a perfect output, try Thomas Esser's dvired
script. It burdens the scaling on TeX, not Postscript, which gives
significantly better output.
I'd love to modify TeXview.app's Print panel to include the dvired
functionality, but due to the copyright on TeXview, I'm not allowed to
do this, although the source is available.
Please direct your criticisms to Steve_Jobs@NeXT.com.
Gregor
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: scott@ee.ucla.edu (Ryan Scott)
Subject: Re: replies in NS Mail
Sender: news@seas.ucla.edu (News Daemon)
Message-ID: <DnuywL.Io1@seas.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:19:33 GMT
References: <9603051044.AA06407@tlpnl.tlp.nl>
Organization: UCLA, Department of Electrical Engineering
In article <9603051044.AA06407@tlpnl.tlp.nl>,
Maurice Le Rutte <maurice@tlpnl.tlp.nl> writes:
|>
|> Kevin Boyes (kboyes@noc.tor.hookup.net) wrote:
|>
|> > When I reply to my email, I would like to indent
|> > the text of the original with "> ". This is a
|> > program option with elm. Is there an equivalent
|> > in NS Mail?
|> > Thanks, Kevin
|>
|> You can use the 'Wrap and Reply' service of terminal.
|> Copy the text you want to reply to (please, not too much!) into your
|> compose window, select it and choose Services->Terminal->Wrap and Reply.
|>
|> Maurice.
Or you could pick up the MailHelper.app and /or EnhanceMail.bundle from
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/mail. Both of these
give you reply capabilities along with several other niceties.
Ryan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Message-ID: <9603061910.AA03609@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
From: Aleksey Sudakov <zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 96 22:10:17 +0300
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP and JAVA
In article <4hinam$sjp@news.worldcom.ch>, you wrote:
> Hello !
>
> Does any one know if someone is porting JAVA on NeXTSTEP ?
As far as I know there are two different ports BlackJava and set of
patches to original Sun's environment a.k.a. NEXTSTEP Java Port.
Both could be found on peanuts (munich).
I don't know how far they are differ for I haven't look into
BlackJava (to unpack it one should license Java from Sun and get
crypt key) and while building the other port I've got the following
cnext> gmake
>>>Recursively making java all...
gmake[1]: Entering directory
`/Users/zander/Incoming/Java/build/next/java'
>>>Recursively making javah all...
gmake[2]: Entering directory
`/Users/zander/Incoming/Java/build/next/java/javah'
gmake ../../../../build/bin/javah_g VARIANT=DBG
gmake[3]: Entering directory
`/Users/zander/Incoming/Java/build/next/java/javah'
single architecture bin directories....
target: {i386} native: {i386}
if [ -s .classes.list ] ; \
then ../../../../build/bin/java_g -ms8m -classpath
../../../../build/classes sun.tools.javac.Main -classpath
../../../../build/classes:../../../../src/next/java:../../../../src/share/java:../../../../build/classes-JDK
-d ../../../../build/classes \
\
; \
fi
gmake[3]: *** No rule to make target `obj_g/i386/classloader.o',
needed by `../../../../build/bin/i386/javah_g'. Stop.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory
`/Users/zander/Incoming/Java/build/next/java/javah'
gmake[2]: *** [debug] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory
`/Users/zander/Incoming/Java/build/next/java/javah'
gmake[1]: *** [all] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/Users/zander/Incoming/Java/build/next/java'
gmake: *** [all] Error 1
I went thru "One time preparations" 3 times so I guess all the
instruction have been followed exactly and
cnext>find build/classes -type f -exec touch {} \;
didn't help, so could somebody tell me how could I patch original
Sun's Java code?
Thanks,
Aleksey
_________________________________________________________________
Aleksey Sudakov
1A-1 Kerchenskaya Street
Moscow 113303,Russia.
________________________________________________________________
Home: +7(095)121-6100 + 3-45, +7(095)121-0561 + 3-45
EMail: zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru (NeXTMail & MIME are OK)
WWW: http://www.crec.mipt.ru/~zander/
From: ir003093@interramp.com (Eric Bloom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: eps to tiff converter
Date: 6 Mar 1996 19:27:10 GMT
Organization: Bacchus, Inc.
Message-ID: <4hkouf$7iv@usenet4.interramp.com>
References: <4hj0j8$9if@nexus.polaris.net>
fordp@polaris.net (Perrone Ford) wrote:
> Hello,
> I am looking for what I think should be VERY simple. I need to
> convert an EPS image to tiff format. I have used all the basic tools
> to try and get the job done, but to no avail. All of the tools that I
> have at my disposal convert the image to a tiff with a 72dpi resolution.
> Now I don't know about YOUR print habits, but 72dpi images look pretty
> rough coming out of MY NeXTPrinter.
>
> Does anyone have a better mousetrap? Or would someone be willing to
> "loan" me a license for tiffany for a week? I just have one project
> to finish, and I will be done. How much IS a license for TiffanyII anyway?
>
> -P
>
>
> --
> <----------------------------------------------------------->
> Perrone Ford 1320 Terrace St.
> HighTime Web Development Tallahassee, FL 32303
> (904) 222-0620 or 681-6322 hightime@polaris.net
Our commercial application, Pixel Magician, handles PostScript to raster
conversions with variable resolutions.
For more information, contact:
Bacchus, Inc.
info@bacchus.com
From: rupert@blitzen.misha.net (Hans Rupert)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: PPP on NeXT 3.3 White with NXFax.
Date: 6 Mar 1996 22:44:49 GMT
Organization: MISHA Group, Inc
Message-ID: <4hl4h1$kmt@delta.misha.net>
References: <4hb8e6$g9r@news.mcl.bdm.com>
In <4hb8e6$g9r@news.mcl.bdm.com> Yibing Wu wrote:
>>Can any one land me some help here???
>>Thanks in advance.
>>Bing
Bing -
Worry not. Just don't use PPP for your transport. I had the same problem
with a client site, and had to use Mux V1.7. It works great, and has all the
documentation you need. You should be able to find it on next-ftp.peak,org.
Aslo, make certain that you have the new Core 3.3 drivers from NeXT - TTY
Port Server, Serial Port. I personally use PPP wiht NXFax to send, but
cannot EVER get it to receive. Just don't even bother mucking with it. Hope
that helps.
Bests,
Hans Rupert
--
Hans Rupert
<rupert@misha.net> / NeXTmail ~ MIME encouraged
Direktor
noir
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: eps to tiff converter
Date: 7 Mar 1996 01:32:05 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <4hleal$fe0@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <4hj0j8$9if@nexus.polaris.net>
In-Reply-To: <4hj0j8$9if@nexus.polaris.net>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
On 03/05/96, Perrone Ford wrote:
>Hello,
> I am looking for what I think should be VERY simple. I need to
>convert an EPS image to tiff format. I have used all the basic tools
>to try and get the job done, but to no avail. All of the tools that I
>have at my disposal convert the image to a tiff with a 72dpi
resolution.
>Now I don't know about YOUR print habits, but 72dpi images look
pretty
>rough coming out of MY NeXTPrinter.
>
>Does anyone have a better mousetrap? Or would someone be willing to
>"loan" me a license for tiffany for a week? I just have one project
>to finish, and I will be done. How much IS a license for TiffanyII
anyway?
>
>-P
>
>
>--
><----------------------------------------------------------->
>Perrone Ford 1320 Terrace St.
>HighTime Web Development Tallahassee, FL 32303
>(904) 222-0620 or 681-6322 hightime@polaris.net
>
There is a command-line epstotiff somewhere. I used to use
it and I even had a little spreadsheet to figure out
resolution and size. But....
I have been using GS Corp's *excellent* TIFFPrinter Driver.
This is really a simple and neat idea. Using their software, you can
create a virtual Printer that prints to a TIFF file, you
can specify options such as resolution and Anti-Aliasing.
The TIFF Printer is listed in the Print Panel just like
any other printer. So, you can "print" from any application.
Only, you find the output as a TIFF file in the /tmp directory.
I got addicted to it for graphics on the Web.
Check out http://www.gscorp.com/
For some examples of output:
Check out http://libra.caup.umich.edu/www/Flow/
Note: Not affiliated with GSCorp (Although, I wish I was :-)
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Stuart for NS Intel?
Date: 6 Mar 1996 22:56:10 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4hl56a$qum@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <960306060728.817AABqE.jmm@reid.econ.lsa.umich.edu>
jmm@umich.edu wrote:
> Is the shareware Stuart terminal program available for the Intel
> platform? in next-ftp.peak.org I found only a binary compiled
> for black hardware...
I suspect there's a quad-fat version somewhere on next-ftp.peak.org,
but I don't know where offhand. I think it was squirrelled away
in some place that I wasn't expecting it.
The latest Stuart is also available at
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/comm/Stuart_f/
(a directory which has the quad-fat version, as well as four
single-architecture versions). What's there is version 2.6.1
The new version is pretty nice.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: 93925730@plink.cityu.edu.hk (David P. FOK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: inb(), outb(), How?
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 10:36:56 GMT
Organization: CityU of HK
Message-ID: <4hlhsq$r6m@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.hk>
Dear netters,
I have a big problem on using these 2 functions. All I need to do is a
simple 8-bit I/O (on the ISA bus) but the codes keep on refusing to
work. The Builder
reports no problem and the app can be built successfully but whenever
it runs, it quits immediately.
Here below are the codes to test the outb() functions,
#import <appkit/appkit.h>
#import <driverkit/i386/ioPorts.h>
#import <driverkit/generalFuncs.h>
#define sourcePort 0x220
#define measurePort 0x221
@interface Calculator:Object
{
id inputField;
id outputField;
}
- doConversion:sender;
@end
=================================
#import "Calculator.h"
@implementation Calculator
- doConversion:sender
{
int i;
float degreeF;
void IOInitGeneralFuncs();
[inputField selectText:self];
degreeF=((9.0*[inputField floatValue])/5.0)+32.0;
[outputField setFloatValue:degreeF];
//below are the lines for the outb() testing, which is inserted to the
//NeXT calculator example.
outb((unsigned int) sourcePort,(unsigned char) 0x80);
for(i=0;i<1000;i++);
return self;
}
@end
I did try to remove the void IOInitGeneralFuncs(); as it's required
for user drivers only and casting the "port" to IOEISAAddress(?) also.
No magic happens then.
Could anyone give me some hints? The hardware I built works okay under
dos by using the inportb() and outport() functions and it requires no
interrupt or DMA.
In addition, I did really confused by the DriverKit. It is documented
that the IODevice class is a subclass of Object but, I cannot subclass
from the IODevice by any means, why?
Sorry for wasting your time if this is an FAQ but I did consult all
possible source of answers. The SMC16 driver example seems just so
straight forward but...
Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I am using NeXTSTEP 3.3 user
and developer under Intel.
-david
From: Paul R. Brown <pbrown@math.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: teTeX, kpathTeX, and TeXing epsf to paste in...
Date: 7 Mar 1996 09:19:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <4hm9mh$7uf@agate.berkeley.edu>
A while ago, I lightly hacked-over the kpathsearch version of
TeX in order to get it to work on a NeXT, but unfortunately, my beloved
TeXice.app quit working at about the same time. When I attempted to paste a
TeXice'd equation onto a figure in Adobe Illustrator, I received an error
about there being no bounding box. After a cursory read of the dvips manual,
I took a look at config.ps, and observed that the "N" option, the NO COMMENTS
option (thus eliminating the bounding box) was turned on. With the N
commented-out, TeXice works just as it used to.
The is apparently done to get printing to HP LJ4's to work properly, and the
same thing applies to the teTeX for the NeXT recently advertised here.
(Haven't given it a try yet.)
Paul
From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Message-ID: <1996Mar7.093557.46106@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 7 Mar 96 09:35:57 MET
References: <1996Mar5.202327.5949@nidat.sub.org> <1996Mar6.065728.17169@seer.demon.co.uk>
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
In article <1996Mar6.065728.17169@seer.demon.co.uk>, Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk> writes:
> In article <1996Mar5.202327.5949@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org
> (Peter Nitezki) writes:
>> Another case of cultural diversity ;-)
>
> So true :-). I fully accept the importance of hyphenation for the German
> market, and also the relative significance of the German market to the
> overall NeXTSTEP market. Both are very important.
>
> However, I don't like to see a succession of posts like the original,
> without some sort of counterbalance. A WP without hyphenation is a
> perfectly good WP in the English speaking world.
>
> Paul
> --
> Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
> http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
So to give this thread a new direction: Has anyone any ideas for a quick
workaround for at least the possibility of inserting soft-hyphens via
key-shortcut. (This will work for smaller german documents). I first
wanted to change the nib file for the main menu, but there is no nib for
this. Someone proposed me to try out a
'dwrite OpenWrite NXCommandKeys "Soft Hyphen,<shortcut>" '
this normally works for every application -- except OW :-(
So any other ideas??
Daniel
--
***************************************************************
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Universitaet Basel
email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please)
smail: D. Haas, Kreuzstrasse 150, D-79540 Loerrach, Germany
homepage: http://www1.psi.ch/~haasd/home.html
(incl. links to magic, search pages and more)
***************************************************************
"Bill Gates wife has informed him that the deployment of
Bill Gates IV has been delayed for another 6 months due to
a redesign of the user interface."
***************************************************************
From: gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de (Gerald Wildgruber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeXView and PostScript
Date: 07 Mar 1996 12:26:56 +0100
Organization: Apatheia Corp.
Sender: gewil@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <x7d96p5ekf.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <vfr750Dnu2rL.Cvz@netcom.com>
<4hkesk$ap3@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In-reply-to: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de's message of 6 Mar 1996 16:35:32 GMT
To: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
If you really want to get a perfect output, try Thomas Esser's dvired
script. It burdens the scaling on TeX, not Postscript, which gives
significantly better output.
Sorry for this substance free me-too-posting; yet: could you please point
me to a place where to get this script ("dvired"); it was out of reach for several
archie servers, and i couldn't find it on CTAN.
Thank you.
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Gerald Wildgruber No one can have an idea
gewil@ue801be.ppp. once he starts really
lrz-muenchen.de listening. - John Cage
(NeXTMail and MIME
welcome)
From: scott@swdnext.ntplx.net (Scott W. Douglass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WANTED: Informix-SE Drivers for EO and DBModeler
Date: 7 Mar 1996 13:02:31 GMT
Organization: NETPLEX (203) 233-1111
Message-ID: <4hmmp7$2ts@jumbo.ntplx.net>
Has anyone heard of accessing Informix databases through EOF? I've got NS
Developer 3.3 w/ EOF and would like to see if I can use it to create
applications that access my Informix-SE SQL database running on my network.
Any help would be appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <vincent@jupiter>
From: <vincent@jupiter>
Message-ID: <9603071535.AA00371@jupiter.imaginet.fr>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 96 16:35:32 +0100
Subject: Exist some statistique app ??
Hello,
Exist some statistique apps vor Nextstep 3.3 ?
Thanks for your help,
________________________________________________________________
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B2W - Agence de Strasbourg
49 rue de Mundolsheim
B.P. 79
F-67302 SCHILTIGHEIM
FRANCE
Tel : (33) 88 62 69 79 Fax : (33) 88 62 26 04
email : noehom@imaginet.fr (NeXTMAIL - MIME welcome)
________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Christopher B. Gaeth <gaethcb@csoc.dnet.dupont.com>
Subject: test
Message-ID: <1996Mar7.160910.26085@es.dupont.com>
Sender: news@es.dupont.com (USENET News System)
Organization: DuPont Experimental Station
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:09:10 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: spanish dictionary
Message-ID: <1996Mar7.210941.11550@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4hffve$dd8@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:09:41 GMT
In article <4hffve$dd8@cnn.Princeton.EDU> tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU
(Timothy Van Zandt) writes:
> Anyone know of a spanish dictionary that will work with
> the spell checker in Edit?
>
HSD Spell was available with ten different language modules. I don't know
whether it is still available and who currently sells it, though.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp, MIME, NeXTmail # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: EnhanceMail 1.1 is released
Date: 7 Mar 1996 22:29:44 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-j-47.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4hno0o$dga@usc.edu>
References: <4hl5ao$1j4@digifix.digifix.com> <4hmba0$4d7@usc.edu>
In <4hmba0$4d7@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> There seems to be this problem:
>
> I reply in same format to an ascii mail. Okay, it looks good. Then I click
on
> the mail format button (NeXT/MIME/PLAIN) and the text dissappears! Never to
> come back, though the mail stays the same size.
>
> Hmmm.
Then again, it didn't happen since... so hmmmm.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: 93925730@plink.cityu.edu.hk (David P. FOK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <4hlhsq$r6m@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.hk>
Control: cancel <4hlhsq$r6m@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.hk>
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 09:37:44 GMT
Organization: CityU of HK
Message-ID: <4ho2pt$5ku@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.hk>
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: generating NeXT mail. Was: Re: How to rebuild table_of_contents without Mail.app
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 11:26:56 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960307112058.298N-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960305185653.5387B-100000@lipschitz>
On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:
>
> | There is no good way to send an attachment with a message either.
>
> Whatsamatta with send_attach?
Well, as far as I know, send_attach only allows you to send files not a
file AND a message. Something like:
"Hey, here's that file I told you I'd send. By the way, thanks again for
the birthday card and flowers."
<attached file here>
There is no way to have a body for the message.
send_attach is great, it's just limited.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles,
swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ,
and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeXView and PostScript
Date: 8 Mar 1996 01:57:44 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ho46o$n3b@news.its.com>
References: <vfr750Dnu2rL.Cvz@netcom.com>
vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung) wrote:
> I've got a nice 100+ page .dvi file that I'd like to print, however
> I'd rather not eat all that paper, so I was wondering if perhaps there
> was something sitting around somewhere that take a properly formatted
> PS file and make a 2up document out of it. I could save the PS
> generated by TeXView to a file, and then squeeze it through that kind
> of utility.
Try '/usr/bin/psnup'.
Save the TeXView document to a .ps file; filter it through psnup into a new
.ps file; Preview the new file to make sure you like what psnup did; print.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Stuart for NS Intel?
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 11:31:13 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960307112743.298O-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <960306060728.817AABqE.jmm@reid.econ.lsa.umich.edu> <4hl56a$qum@usenet.rpi.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4hl56a$qum@usenet.rpi.edu>
On 6 Mar 1996, Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> jmm@umich.edu wrote:
> > Is the shareware Stuart terminal program available for the Intel
> > platform? in next-ftp.peak.org I found only a binary compiled
> > for black hardware...
>
> I suspect there's a quad-fat version somewhere on next-ftp.peak.org,
> but I don't know where offhand. I think it was squirrelled away
> in some place that I wasn't expecting it.
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/Stuart2.6.1.NIHS.tar.gz
It was still there as of: Thu Mar 7 11:30:12 EST 1996
However, getting it from Garance's machine would be my suggestion... Why
download three archs you don't need?
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles,
swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ,
and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID: <960307201256.704AAFcO.magnus@koa>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services
References: <4hd7ak$d06@usc.edu> <1996Mar5.202327.5949@nidat.sub.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 02:12:56 GMT
Peter Nitezki writes:
>Another case of cultural diversity ;-)
>
>In a language where the regular usage of of words longer than six
>characters makes you a liguistic oddball has almost no need for
>hyphenation. German grammer restraines you to military training ground
>jargon if you have to avoid them.
And to think that OpenWrite was written by Swedes... 8-)
-Magnus
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: top for NeXT ?
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 11:34:56 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960307113257.298P-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4hi7qm$5q9@agate.berkeley.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4hi7qm$5q9@agate.berkeley.edu>
On 5 Mar 1996, Brian Osborne wrote:
> I just downloaded the top package (3.4 beta), but I don't see
> a module for NeXT. I'm running 3.3 on a NeXTStation. Has anyone
> compiled top on their NeXT ? Or, can anyone tell me if they know
> of any plan to make a module for NeXT ? I noticed in one of the
> docs that the author mentions that he is collaborating with two
> people to try and make a NeXT module. Any news on this ?
>
> bosborne@nature.berkeley.edu
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/top-v0.3-NIHS.tar.Z
-rw-r--r-- 1 65524 ftp 222475 Feb 15 23:38 top-v0.3-NIHS.tar.Z
-rw-r--r-- 1 65524 ftp 564591 Feb 15 23:38 top-v0.3-source.tar.Z
-rw-r--r-- 1 65524 ftp 8289 Feb 15 23:37 top-v0.3.README
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles,
swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ,
and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tailor.app moves to Mac (Re: Visual PostScript Editor for the Mac)
Date: 8 Mar 1996 03:18:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ho8tl$7r9@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <4hncd8$iuj@trane.opensource.com>
I am a Tailor (NS) user, and just saw the announcement below in
comp.lang.postscript.
It's great that Tailor will now get a large user base it really
deserves, but it probably means that Tailor for NEXTSTEP will now be (or
has already been) on the back burner in terms of getting new features.
It may mean that you either have to buy a Mac to have a latest Tailor,
or move on to OneVision's GUI PS editor. Can anyone post a comparison
of Tailor and OneVision's eScript (is that the name?) ??
Izumi
---
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USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020
Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: -3323, Web: http://totoro.berkeley.edu/~izumi/
In comp.lang.postscript article <4hncd8$iuj@trane.opensource.com>
brett@joker.opensource.com (Brett Wilhelm) writes:
>A demo version of Tailor 1.0 GX, a visual click-and-drag software
>application for editing virtually any PostScript file from any source, can
>now be downloaded from our homepage at: http://www.enfocus.com. The only
>difference between the demo version and the actual purchased product is
>the removal of save capabilities.
>
>Brett Wilhelm
>EnFocus Software
>brett@enfocus.com
From: buzz@marvin.isdn.cs.TU-Berlin.DE (Bastian Schlueter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 7 Mar 1996 22:55:11 GMT
Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe
Message-ID: <4hnpgf$bpv@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4h7do8$qv3@tigger.planet.eon.net> <4h8p4s$out@nntp1.best.com> <4hdli7$a2q@news4.digex.net> <960305200338.1135AAFxE.mosh@darmok>
mosh (Dennis Michl) wrote:
> Dudes,
>
> how about Eloquent? It's a mail reader as well as a news reader!
Forget it. As a news reader it crawls like a snail.
Bastian
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Fehrbellinerstr. 39 e-mail: Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de
D-10119 Berlin buzz@marvin.isdn.cs.TU-Berlin.DE
http://www.first.gmd.de/persons/Schlueter.Bastian.html RRR100R
From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is Remote Use of NeXTMail POssible?
Date: 8 Mar 1996 04:23:33 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4hoco5$oba@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
That is, I have a NeXT at home, and a modem, and can transfer files.
How can I coax my NeXT at work into sending soemthing via NeXTMail?
Many thanks, Lones
--
Lones A. Smith, Economics, MIT || The `v' in Massachvsetts Institvte
E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 || of Technology is a Latin affectation
617-253-0914 (voice), -6915 (fax) || with which I strongly disagree.
lones@lones.mit.edu (NeXT mail OK) || Feel free to svbstitvte `u' as desired.
From: Tito <talugtu@slip.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for WWW Browser for NeXT
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 20:43:21 -0800
Message-ID: <4hodha$oi1@slip.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
NNTP-NEWS-ADMIN: newsadmin@slip.net
I'm looking for softwares for my 040: a dialler, an E-Mail and internet
browser. Please let me know if I'm looking for the rigth software to be
able to view the WWW. Thanx.
tito, talugtu@slip.net
From: don@misckit.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: generating NeXT mail. Was: Re: How to rebuild table_of_contents without Mail.app
Date: 8 Mar 1996 05:00:46 GMT
Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <4hoetu$2pk@news.xmission.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960307112058.298N-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> send_attach is great, it's just limited.
So, why not use tnextmail, which allows you to do attachments
and message together? you just type a message, inserting
the attachments where you want them...
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com
<a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: agnoshope1@aol.com (AgnosHope1)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LOTUS SMARTSUITE FOR SALE!!!!!!
Date: 7 Mar 1996 20:15:26 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <4ho1ne$jel@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
LOTUS SMARTSUITE RELEASE 4!
NOTE! DO NOT POST A RESPONSE HERE OR HIT "REPLY TO AUTHOR"! PLEASE EMAIL
ME
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED AT
agnoshope1@aol.com
Im selling a brand new Lotus Smartsuite still in wrapping, etc. . FIRST
PERSON WITH BEST OFFER GETS IT!!! This comes in a shrinkwrap with the CD
and
some cards, it is Release 4 (which runs ond Windows 3.1 for those of you
who
don't already know that) and is currently retailing for between $300 and
$499.99 ($499.00 at Babbages) I am taking the best offer that comes my
way
though (within reason) so please email me your offer.
CD Includes:
Lotus 1-2-3
Lotus Word Pro
Lotus Approach
Lotus Freelance Graphics
Lotus Organizer
Email agnoshope1@aol.com if you are interested.
From: heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: eps to tiff converter
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 10:01:21 -0800
Organization: UC Davis, Computer Science Dept.
Message-ID: <heberlei-0703961001210001@dissertation.cs.ucdavis.edu>
References: <4hj0j8$9if@nexus.polaris.net> <4hkouf$7iv@usenet4.interramp.com>
> > Hello,
> > I am looking for what I think should be VERY simple. I need to
> > convert an EPS image to tiff format. I have used all the basic tools
Stupid question on my part, but could someone write a very simple
NEXTSTEP program to read in an EPS image into an NXImage (or whatever
the class is), and then redirect a tiff output to a file?
I would suspect it would be about 8 lines of code.
Todd
From: alexyeh@mail.utexas.edu (Alex Yeh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: *** Need to back up Data or Music on CDs? ***
Date: 8 Mar 1996 07:29:55 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <4honlj$nib@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Hi:
I have a CD Rom writer which can store your pc data on a recordable CD.
If you need to back up your software on CD ROMs or create music CDs,
I can help. The fee is $10 per CD and you provide your own recordable CD.
If you are interested or have any questions, please e-mail me at
alexyeh@mail.utexas.edu
Thank You.
Alex
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: spanish dictionary
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:07:04 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Mar8.080704.3256@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <1996Mar7.210941.11550@nidat.sub.org>
In article <1996Mar7.210941.11550@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org
(Peter Nitezki) writes:
> In article <4hffve$dd8@cnn.Princeton.EDU> tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU
> (Timothy Van Zandt) writes:
>
> > Anyone know of a spanish dictionary that will work with
> > the spell checker in Edit?
> >
> HSD Spell was available with ten different language modules. I don't
know
> whether it is still available and who currently sells it, though.
It was being sold by MetroSoft. I haven't heard from them in quite a
while (since ObjectWorld), so I don't know if they are still active.
They had their own products (MetroTools), plus the full HSD line:
MetroScan (Scan-X), HSDSpell, Simon Says, etc.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: next0@informatik.uni-bremen.de (Peer-Olaf Sack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.bugs
Subject: rfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
Date: 8 Mar 1996 10:25:27 GMT
Organization: Zentrum fuer Netze, Universitaet Bremen
Sender: next0@s32 (Peer-Olaf Sack)
Message-ID: <4hp1un$kdi@gina.zfn.uni-bremen.de>
Win95-Defrag crashed my system. After reboot the hardware-manager shows
two more drives (D: and E: but they are unaccesable).
The bad thing is, that on this drives my NeXTStep is intalled.
So, when I boot NeXTStep it ended with
----------------------------------------------------------------
sd0a: Read attempt with no valid label
vfs_mountroot: error=5
panic: (cpu0) rfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
----------------------------------------------------------------
The only possible thing now is to reboot.
The kernel and drivers are still loaded from my hard-disk, so the files
may be still intact. I guess, only the partition-table is damaged.
Booting from CD starts the install routine. Making my 2nd HD the rootdev
ended with the same message as above. (I cannot start in single-user, also).
How can I rescue my files and/or start NeXTStep again?
Configuration:
P90
Adaptec2940
2 SCSI-HDs
SCSI CD
ZIP-Drive
1 IDE-HD
NeXTStep3.3 (maybe still alive)
Win95 (no comment)
From: kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.bugs
Subject: Re: rfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.bugs
Date: 8 Mar 1996 11:44:17 GMT
Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany
Message-ID: <4hp6ih$ln7@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
References: <4hp1un$kdi@gina.zfn.uni-bremen.de>
Peer-Olaf Sack (next0@informatik.uni-bremen.de) wrote:
: Win95-Defrag crashed my system. After reboot the hardware-manager shows
: two more drives (D: and E: but they are unaccesable).
I recently fixed a similar problem caused by the unfriendly
MS-DOS 6.22 installer which intentionally formats all devices
it can get hold of.
I took the starting 80 kilobytes from a NeXTSTEP partition of
exactly the same size from another machine and copied it over to
the raw device of the broken drive. Luckily I had this other
machine with identical partition layout. The 80 K is
an arbitrarily chosen value after looking at the disk contents
via Edit. Hmm. There were some problems to get the data
over as NeXT chose not to include the floppy disk driver in
it's boot disk/driver disk. So I had to copy this onto the
driver disk first to get the broken machine booted with floppy
support.
I don't know how different partition schemes may affect
the data in the disk label, but I think it's worth having
a look at it. By comparing the starting blocks from the
broken drive to those from a working NeXTSTEP partition
you might be able to find out how to fix it. Maybe it's
enough to take only some sectors.
--
Axel Habermann
kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296
Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist,
haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
Date: 8 Mar 1996 09:34:54 EST
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TeXView and PostScript
Date: 8 Mar 1996 13:38:49 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hpd99$o36@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <vfr750Dnu2rL.Cvz@netcom.com> <x7d96p5ekf.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
Gerald Wildgruber (gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de) wrote:
: Sorry for this substance free me-too-posting; yet: could you please point
: me to a place where to get this script ("dvired"); it was out of
: reach for several archie servers, and i couldn't find it on CTAN.
It's indeed hidden in the teTeX distribution (shameless advertisment
for the upcoming NEXTSTEP port ;-), I include it at the end of this
posting, hoping that it won't get scrambled by the news system.
Note: You'll need the psutils (in fact only pstops) to get this
working. And you may want to change the setup to letter size. Anyway,
if you look at the script, you'll see that the only interesting parts
are the "-x 707" magnification option for dvips and the lengths for
pstops.
Gregor
PS:
#!/bin/sh
#=========================================================================
# Version: 0.3
# Module: dvired
# Purpose: Translate dvi-file into postscript with reduced output
size.
# Two logical pages will be put on onto each physical
sheet of
# paper.
# System: Linux. UNIX(tm) systems may work as well :-)
# Requires: pstops, dvips
# Created: 19.11.1992
# Last Change: 13.03.1995
# Language: sh
# Author: Thomas Esser
# Address: te@informatik.uni-hannover.de
# Copyright: (c) 1994 by Thomas Esser
# Copying: GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
#=========================================================================
help()
{
cat <<eof
Usage: dvired [options] file
This programm behaves like dvips, execpt fot the fact that two logical
pages will be put on onto each physical sheet of paper.
For options see dvips(1). This program only interprets the options
-o, -P and -f. All other options will directly be passed to dvips.
If your paper is not in A4 format, you need to adjust the dimensions
in this program.
Examples: (it is assumed that the PRINTER-variable is set)
dvired -Plw foo send output to printer lw
dvired -o foo.ps foo send output to file foo.ps
dvired -pp4-7 foo send 4 output-pages to printer
dvired foo -f | ghostview - preview output with ghostview
eof
}
case $# in
0) help ; exit 1 ; ;;
esac
# This will work for A4 paper.
paper=a4 ; pstopsopt='2:0(7.44mm,7.44mm)+1(7.44mm,-141.06mm)'
# The following are *UNTESTED*. Please let me know whether they work
# or not, if you can test them.
#paper=a3 ; pstopsopt='2:0(7.44mm,7.44mm)+1(7.44mm,-202.56mm)'
#paper=letter ; pstopsopt='2:0(7.44mm,7.44mm)+1(7.44mm,-132.26mm)'
#paper=legal ; pstopsopt='2:0(7.44mm,7.44mm)+1(7.44mm,-170.36mm)'
#paper=ledger ; pstopsopt='2:0(7.44mm,7.44mm)+1(7.44mm,-132.26mm)'
#paper=tabloid ;
pstopsopt='2:0(7.44mm,7.44mm)+1(7.44mm,-208.46mm)'
of=""
lpr_opt=""
case "$PRINTER" in
"") dvips_pre="" ;;
*) dvips_pre="-P$PRINTER" ;;
esac
dvips_pre="$dvips_pre -t $paper -t landscape"
while [ ! -z "$1" ] ; do
case $1 in
-P) of="" ; dvips_pre="$dvips_pre -P$2" ; lpr_opt="-P$2"
shift ;;
-P*) of="" ; dvips_pre="$dvips_pre $1" ; lpr_opt="$1" ;;
-o) of="$2"
shift ;;
-o*) of="`echo $1| sed 's/..//'`" ;;
-f) of="-" ;;
*) opt="$opt $1"
esac
shift
done
case "$of" in
"") dvips -x707 $dvips_pre $opt -f | pstops -q $pstopsopt | lpr $lpr_opt
;;
"-") dvips -x707 $dvips_pre $opt -f | pstops -q $pstopsopt
;;
*) dvips -x707 $dvips_pre $opt -f | pstops -q $pstopsopt > "$of"
;;
esac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (M. Roehr)
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Message-ID: <DnxvE9.11n@manki.toppoint.de>
Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr)
Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte
References: <4hd7ak$d06@usc.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 07:56:32 GMT
In article <4hd7ak$d06@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) writes:
> In <1996Mar3.214712.8464@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch wrote:
> > In article <DnotGs.u3@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de (M.
> > Roehr) writes:
> > > A word-processor without any hyphenation should not be allowed named a
> > > wordprocessor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > This may apply for your situation. I can honestly say that I have never
> > ever used, needed or wished for hyphenation in a word processor.
>
> Ditto - I always turn it off if it is a feature.
"Poor boys" - please have a thought for other languages too, maybe in english its
not so important, but german yes !!
-----------------------------------------------------------
Manfred Roehr Elisabethstrasse 88 24143 Kiel Germany
-----------------------------------------------------------
e-mail: manroe@toppoint.de
PHONE/FAX: +49 431 73 45 39
NeXT-mail welcome
From: soren@zeus.datashopper.dk (Soren Mathiasen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Soup Reader
Date: 8 Mar 1996 16:43:57 +0100
Organization: DataShopper Danmark, Copenhagen, Denmark
Message-ID: <sqJQxcm0fdsd089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk>
Hi...
does anyone have a soup offline reader for NS3.3, or a textfile with the
soup format.
Thanks, Soren
--
Soren Mathiasen
soren@datashopper.dk
Student at Roskilde EDB skole, DK
From: ottog@futon.sfsu.edu (Otto Grajeda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X windows
Date: 8 Mar 1996 19:44:04 GMT
Organization: Sirius Connections
Message-ID: <4hq2m4$fiq@sun.sirius.com>
Where can I fing X Windows software for NeXT
--
____________________________________________________________________________
__ | Otto R. Grajeda | __
/\_\ | "do you know what an ISDN card looks like @ the CO" | /\_\
\/_/ | otto@sirius.com | \/_/
NeXTSTEP! | NeXTmail and MIME are not welcomed | !OPENSTEP
____________________________________________________________________________
From: toddw@radium.ca (Todd White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Database selection for NeXTSTEP
Date: 6 Mar 1996 01:04:28 GMT
Organization: ftn Internet
Message-ID: <4hioas$r0m@master.ftn.net>
References: <4h9q44$lej@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
In <4h9q44$lej@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Stephen J. Perkins wrote:
>
> What alternatives to I have for a low cost database? I really would like
> something like VarioDataPro or DataPhile but one that includes the
programmer
> API.
>
> Almost makes me think I would have a Win by using NT and MS Access...
>
> Thoughts? Please respond by email and I'll summarize.
>
> TIA,
>
> Steve
Steve:
Quickbase is an excellent choice for database work under NS. It is quick,
provides full access to its functionality via EOF and you can avoid SQL if
you wish, or get into the depths of it - your choice.
--
=====================================
Todd White
RADium Technology Centre (Canada)
Todd_White@RADium.ca
NeXT and MIME mail gladly accepted
=====================================
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: eps to tiff converter
Date: 8 Mar 1996 21:20:16 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <4hq8ag$sap@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <4hj0j8$9if@nexus.polaris.net> <4hkouf$7iv@usenet4.interramp.com> <heberlei-0703961001210001@dissertation.cs.ucdavis.edu>
In-Reply-To: <heberlei-0703961001210001@dissertation.cs.ucdavis.edu>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
On 03/07/96, Louis Todd Heberlein wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> > I am looking for what I think should be VERY simple. I need
to
>> > convert an EPS image to tiff format. I have used all the basic
tools
>
>Stupid question on my part, but could someone write a very simple
>NEXTSTEP program to read in an EPS image into an NXImage (or whatever
>the class is), and then redirect a tiff output to a file?
>
>I would suspect it would be about 8 lines of code.
>
>Todd
>
It has been done. I have a command-line eps2tiff which I do not
remember wehre I got from. Here is the man page:
EPS2TIFF(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual
EPS2TIFF(1)
NAME
eps2tiff - convert ps or eps graphic files to tiff
format to make slides.
SYNOPSIS
eps2tiff [ -s n -d n -z -j n ] inputfile outputfile
DESCRIPTION
This utility will convert an EPS file into a tiff file. You set
the size(by setting a scale factor) and depth (in bits/pixel) with
command switches. The default size is the size in the BoundingBox
in the EPS file. The default depth is 24 bits/pixel. The program
works by taking advantage of the ImageRep object's ability to
convert from one format to another. The program reads the input file
(which can be tiff OR ps), then writes the output file in the
specified tiff format. It can be useful in slide making
OPTIONS
-s n
Scale factor n
-d n
Depth in bits/pixel, with chices of 2, 8, 12 or 24
(default)
-z
Causes the file to be saved in l-z-w compressed form
-j n
Causes the file to be saved in jpeg compressed form,
with compression factor n in the range 1.0 - 255.0.
Note that if n is 0, the default compression (10.0) is
used. Only works for tiffs with at least 4 bits
per pixel.
BUGS
Note that there is very little error checking for invalid
arguments. Use at your own risk.
I also note that the input file can be a tiff file or an
eps or ps -- all that I tried seemed to work. The program
does occupy large amounts of swap
space during compression of large tiff files, though.
To use for slide making the program "eps2tiff" can be used
to make 1000 x 1500 .tiff files for each slide. I found that
this resolution was not really publication quality, BTW.
Larger tiff files get very cumbersome to manipulate (each
24 bit color slide was over 1 MB, compressed).
CREDITS
Tom Swanner III (bizarre@clients-r-us.tamu.edu)
Geoffrey Rutledge (rutledge@camis.stanford.edu)
Manpage: Rafael Munoz-Carpena (carpena@next1.bae.ncsu.edu)
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: \6james@young-ray.hinet.net (James C. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tricks?
Date: 9 Mar 1996 03:47:30 GMT
Organization: HiNet, Taiwan
Message-ID: <4hqv0i$dl@serv.hinet.net>
Hello neters,
Are there tricks to use ftp over Omniweb? I havn't successful tranfer
any file from it. Isn't ftp://next-ftp.peak.org the correct syntax?
What about reading news? what is the correct syntax?
Thanks and best regards,
--
James C. Lin
MAIL: P.O.Box 122 INTERNET:james@young-ray.hinet.net
Fengyuan 42099
Taiwan, Rep. of China
From: aremiramar_a@ppp.com(areMiramar Associates)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: are...Renters .... Buy a Home with No $$ Downare
Date: 9 Mar 1996 04:30:44 GMT
Organization: adnc.com
Message-ID: <4hr1hk$5tl@taurus.adnc.com>
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opportunity to lease a new car and also receive an increase in your take
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confidential.
From: Peter Truskier <ptruskier@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wanted-NS POP3 Server
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 20:48:26 +0000
Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc.
Message-ID: <31409D1A.4B5B@earthlink.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm looking for a pre-compiled or readily compilable POP3 server to run
on 68040 Cube or ColorStation.
Anybody have any help ?
Thanks
----
Peter Truskier
STAR Graphic Arts Co., Inc.
Brisbane, CA
415-656-2222
----
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WANTED: Informix-SE Drivers for EO and DBModeler
Message-ID: <1996Mar9.010926.76233@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@spanky.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Howard R. Cole)
Date: 9 Mar 96 01:09:25 MDT
References: <4hmmp7$2ts@jumbo.ntplx.net>
In <4hmmp7$2ts@jumbo.ntplx.net> Scott W. Douglass wrote:
> Has anyone heard of accessing Informix databases through EOF? I've got NS
> Developer 3.3 w/ EOF and would like to see if I can use it to create
> applications that access my Informix-SE SQL database running on my network.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
Please post replies! I would be very interested in this too!
- HRC -
hcole@spanky.idec.sdl.usu.edu
From: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tricks?
Date: 9 Mar 1996 10:50:15 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <4hrnp7$qv5@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <4hqv0i$dl@serv.hinet.net>
In <4hqv0i$dl@serv.hinet.net> James C. Lin wrote:
> Are there tricks to use ftp over Omniweb? I havn't successful tranfer
> any file from it. Isn't ftp://next-ftp.peak.org the correct syntax?
The syntax looks allright. What version of OW are you using? OmniWeb 2 Beta-3
had a damaged ftp interface. The current beta-6 release works like a charm.
(Even when I just click on the URL zap RadicalNews inserts into your posting
;-) ...
ys
Alexander Wilkie
--
e-mail: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME o.k.)
www : http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~wilkie/
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is Remote Use of NeXTMail POssible?
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:13:28 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960308131048.11468K-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4hoco5$oba@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4hoco5$oba@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
On 8 Mar 1996, Lones A Smith wrote:
> That is, I have a NeXT at home, and a modem, and can transfer files.
> How can I coax my NeXT at work into sending soemthing via NeXTMail?
get 'send_attach' or 'tnextmail'
at peanuts.leo.org:
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/tnextmail.1.0.s.tar.gz
/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/mail/send_attach.NI.b.tar.gz
NOTE: apparently there is a newer version of send_attach somewhere
(version 0.8) than the one above (0.7). Anyone know where that is?
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles,
swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ,
and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: aremiramar_a@ppp.com(areMiramar Associates)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 09 Mar 1996 10:37:33 EST
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From: Tito <talugtu@slip.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FS: Scanner Software for NeXT
Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 09:57:56 -0800
Message-ID: <4hsgf7$8ku@slip.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
NNTP-NEWS-ADMIN: newsadmin@slip.net
NeXT Kit Scanner Utility Disk (MOD) for the Abaton Scan 300/GS. This
software works, made by the people of Everex. I have a few copies, still
in sealed containers...this software is very rare! The software is in a
Optical Disk with label for NeXT.
Make offer.
tito
talugtu@slip.net
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted-NS POP3 Server
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:01:49 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960309130057.18623C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <31409D1A.4B5B@earthlink.net>
On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Peter Truskier wrote:
> I'm looking for a pre-compiled or readily compilable POP3 server to run
> on 68040 Cube or ColorStation.
>
I think this might help
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/mail/PopOver.v1.4.NIHS.bd.tar.gz
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles,
swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ,
and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: 9 Mar 1996 21:34:37 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <4hsthd$i9f@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <1996Mar5.202327.5949@nidat.sub.org> <1996Mar6.065728.17169@seer.demon.co.uk> <1996Mar7.093557.46106@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
In-Reply-To: <1996Mar7.093557.46106@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
I just got done creating a demo multi-document Dissertation in
OpenWrite 2.0 complete with:
Consistent Styles Across Documents
Intelligent Global page numbers
(Hint: Place TOC/Front Matter Chapter at end if you want your chapters
to start with Page 1 (Arabic) and to number the TOC Document with
Roman.
Automated Multi-Level Table of Contents
Autonumbered Chapter Titles
Autonumbered Figure Captions (1.1, 1.2, 2.1, ...)
Automated List of Figures
It takes me five commands to update the whole book:
Autonumber Everything (Chapters, Headings, Figure Captions)
Generate TOC 1 (For Front matter, Roman Numbering)
Generate TOC 2 (For Chapter Titles and Subheadings)
Generate TOC 3 (List of Figures with Page numbers)
Autonumber Everything (due to my idiosyncratic re-numbering of TOC
entries)
Next, I'm going to try cross-referencing and indexing.
So far, I like it. :-)
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: lacourse (Dan LaCourse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: xdf floppies & NeXTStation
Date: 10 Mar 1996 01:44:12 GMT
Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc.
Message-ID: <4htc5c$hd4@chinx4.thoughtport.net>
Keywords: xdf SoftPC
I recently decided to install PC DOS 7.0 in SoftPC on my non-Turbo
NeXTStation. Unfortunately, the installation disks are in IBM's xdf format,
which the Station does not recognize. It ejects the disk a few moments after
I insert it (after probing for all the file systems it knows about). Anyone
know if it's possible to get the Station to recognize this floppy (I assume
that'd require an xdf filesystem description in /usr/filesystems).
Cheers,
Dan
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 10 Mar 1996 02:12:51 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Internet Services +1 713 968 5800
Message-ID: <4htdr3$h6c@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4hhqss$jqp@tandem.CAM.ORG>
<4hjoj2$1vk2@ftp.univie.ac.at>
> >On 03/01/96, Soren Mathiasen wrote:
> >>
> >>Are there included a news reader on the NS 3.3 cdrom, if not
> >> where can i find one ???
I've got to pipe up and remind everybody to try RadicalNews. I've
found the developers _very_ responsive to my suggestions. The
features and price ain't bad either.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Love, rlove@neosoft.com (local) MIME & NeXT Mail OK
rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (permanent) PGP key available
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From: wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: 9 Mar 1996 19:51:41 GMT
Organization: DART Software GmbH
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4hsngd$b5k@ns.dart.de>
References: <1996Mar7.093557.46106@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Daniel Haas writes
> So to give this thread a new direction: Has anyone any ideas for a quick
> workaround for at least the possibility of inserting soft-hyphens via
> key-shortcut. (This will work for smaller german documents). I first
> wanted to change the nib file for the main menu, but there is no nib for
> this. Someone proposed me to try out a
> 'dwrite OpenWrite NXCommandKeys "Soft Hyphen,<shortcut>" '
> this normally works for every application -- except OW :-(
>
> So any other ideas??
We will have a german version of OpenWrite, which we're going to demo at CeBIT
this week. The german version will have a key-shortcut (command -) for
soft-hyphens. I think this reduces some of the problems that our german
customers have with the missing automatic hyphenation.
Other german versions of Lighthouse applications that we're going to introduce
at CeBIT include Diagram, Concurrence and Quantrix.
My guess is that Lighthouse will supply these german versions (free of charge)
with their next CD distribution (whenever OmniWeb 2.0 becomes final).
Wilfried Beeck
DART Software GmbH
Lighthouse Distribution
Hamburg, Germany
http://www.dart.de
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted-NS POP3 Server
Date: 10 Mar 1996 03:41:15 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <4htj0r$8ra@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960309130057.18623C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960309130057.18623C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
On 03/09/96, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
>On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Peter Truskier wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a pre-compiled or readily compilable POP3 server to
run
>> on 68040 Cube or ColorStation.
>>
>I think this might help
>ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/mail/PopOver.v1.4.NIHS.bd.t
ar.gz
>
PopOver is a client....
popper is what you are after, and it should be on the
next-ftp.peak.org site
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
http://www.stepwise.com/ (Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server)
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tricks?
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 08:01:24 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Mar10.080124.9997@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4hqv0i$dl@serv.hinet.net>
In article <4hqv0i$dl@serv.hinet.net> \
6 james@young-ray.hinet.net (James C. Lin) writes:
> Are there tricks to use ftp over Omniweb? I havn't successful
tranfer
> any file from it. Isn't ftp://next-ftp.peak.org the correct syntax?
It works, no tricks. If you are using a proxy server, then that will need
setting up.
> What about reading news? what is the correct syntax?
news: although there isn't a news reader inside OmniWeb. I believe that
2.0 will use Alexandria as a news reader.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Message-ID: <1996Mar10.073814.6806@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <1996Mar7.093557.46106@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <4hsngd$b5k@ns.dart.de>
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 07:38:14 GMT
In article <4hsngd$b5k@ns.dart.de>, you wrote:
> Daniel Haas writes
> > So to give this thread a new direction: Has anyone any ideas for a quick
> > workaround for at least the possibility of inserting soft-hyphens via
> > key-shortcut. (This will work for smaller german documents). I first
> > wanted to change the nib file for the main menu, but there is no nib for
> > this. Someone proposed me to try out a
> > 'dwrite OpenWrite NXCommandKeys "Soft Hyphen,<shortcut>" '
> > this normally works for every application -- except OW :-(
> >
> > So any other ideas??
>
> We will have a german version of OpenWrite, which we're going to demo at
CeBIT
> this week. The german version will have a key-shortcut (command -) for
> soft-hyphens. I think this reduces some of the problems that our german
> customers have with the missing automatic hyphenation.
>
> Other german versions of Lighthouse applications that we're going to
introduce
> at CeBIT include Diagram, Concurrence and Quantrix.
>
> My guess is that Lighthouse will supply these german versions (free of
charge)
> with their next CD distribution (whenever OmniWeb 2.0 becomes final).
>
> Wilfried Beeck
> DART Software GmbH
> Lighthouse Distribution
> Hamburg, Germany
> http://www.dart.de
Doe the same aplly to French also?
Thanks.
---
Fabien Roy
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Fabien Roy Consultant
NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA
10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France
Tel: 33 1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 1 48 55 09 90
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted-NS POP3 Server
Date: 10 Mar 1996 17:34:10 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <4hv3qi$19r@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960309130057.18623C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4htj0r$8ra@digifix.digifix.com>
Scott Anguish (sanguish@digifix.com) wrote:
: On 03/09/96, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
: >On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Peter Truskier wrote:
: >
: >> I'm looking for a pre-compiled or readily compilable POP3 server to
: run
: >> on 68040 Cube or ColorStation.
: >>
: >I think this might help
: >ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/mail/PopOver.v1.4.NIHS.bd.t
: ar.gz
: >
: PopOver is a client....
: popper is what you are after, and it should be on the
: next-ftp.peak.org site
PopOver includes popper (RTFM :-)). BTW, a slightly patched popper is
available on on Lennart Lovestrand's homepage
(I think it was http://www.next.com/~lennart).
---
| Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact RhiNO |
| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 54-5771 |
| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 54-8312 |
| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail, MIME) |
From: song@cs.purdue.edu (Chang-Hyeon Song)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X-like mouse usage(three button mouse)
Date: 10 Mar 1996 18:36:03 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <4hv7ej$8qf@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
I guess almost all users of NextStep for Intel, Sparc, and HP have three button
mouse, but Nextstep just cannot utilize all of them.
Is there a program that enable us to utilize all three button?
I want mouse action of X windows.
---
Chang Song (song@cs.purdue.edu)
From: truong@phoenix.net (Tuan Truong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 10 Mar 1996 20:34:41 GMT
Message-ID: <4hved1$719@gryphon.phoenix.net>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4h7do8$qv3@tigger.planet.eon.net> <4h8p4s$out@nntp1.best.com> <4hdli7$a2q@news4.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <4hdli7$a2q@news4.digex.net>
+--On 03/03/96, John Kheit wrote:
| > #DEFINE SHAMELESS_PLUG_ON
|
| > http://www.wolfware.com.
|
| > #DEFINE SHAMELESS_PLUG_OFF
|
| I really like the UI of this app. Once the folks add a
| browser like access to the newsgroups, icon/people support (I
| like seeing you guys when I talk with ya'll :), and sorting
| by tableView dragging, I'll buy it.
|
Ack..., viewing peoples faces would completely destroy my
grotesque impressions of their character; would be no fun
otherwise :-)
For me, browser views are relatively useless. Once I have the
newsgroups I subscribe to, that's pretty much it. Everything is
in alphabetical order, so I don't waste all that much time
looking for groups.
Don't know about what you mean by tableView dragging...
The UI is very nice though. You can reduce it to just newsgroup
lists w/author, line size or article size, date, and the
article itself. 3.x style buttons are huge, so I'm glad
NewsFlash has a preference for not showing them. Might be a
different story if OSfMACHOS 4.0 style buttons a la OmniWeb are
used.
| Also, it might be nice if they reconsider making the decoding
| binary articles work through a Process Panel ala WM.app and
| OmniWeb2.app...
|
There was a downloading and decoding processes panel for
binaries in 1.x. In NewsFlash 2.x, it's multithreaded so you
can keep on news reading while it downloads. Great for home
users going through a modem. At least that's what I think you
mean.
| Mean time I'm sticking w/ Alexandra .81gad --- fastest
| version...
|
Alexandra when compared to NewsFlash seems to be so slow though
(at least at 28.8 or slower).
-Tuan
--
(NeXTmail friendly)
From: tm8025a@american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wanted-NS POP3 Server
Date: 11 Mar 1996 01:08:56 GMT
Organization: American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <4hvuf8$svq@paladin.american.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960309130057.18623C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4htj0r$8ra@digifix.digifix.com>
In <4htj0r$8ra@digifix.digifix.com> Scott Anguish wrote:
> On 03/09/96, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
> >On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Peter Truskier wrote:
> >
> >> I'm looking for a pre-compiled or readily compilable POP3 server to
> run
> >> on 68040 Cube or ColorStation.
> >>
> >I think this might help
> >ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/mail/PopOver.v1.4.NIHS.bd.t
> ar.gz
> >
>
> PopOver is a client....
>
> popper is what you are after, and it should be on the
> next-ftp.peak.org site
>
>
>
I compiled pop3d QUAD a while back and it's still in the submissions
directory. At least it was a few days back.
Try ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/submissions/pop3d.bs.NIHS.tar.gz
I think that should work.
--
Torrey McMahon
American University School of Communication
System Administrator, WebMaster, and Security Consultant
NeXT, MIME, and ASCII PGP and CyptorBundle
PGP Key available via finger and home page. Check the headers for both.
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: 11 Mar 1996 02:59:24 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <4i04uc$2dg@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <1996Mar5.202327.5949@nidat.sub.org> <1996Mar6.065728.17169@seer.demon.co.uk> <1996Mar7.093557.46106@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <4hsthd$i9f@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4hsthd$i9f@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
Some of you wanted to know how I created AutoNumbered List
of Figures. Here is a rather long tutorial on how to create
two AutoNumber Styles. One for section titles and one for
Figure Captions as in:
A. This Is The Title of the First Section
Figure A.1 This is caption 1 of Section A
Figure A.2 This is caption 2 of Section A
B. This Is The Title of the Second Section
Figure B.1 This is caption 1 of Section B
Figure B.2 This is caption 2 of Section B
Figure B.3 This is caption 3 of Section B
I welcome all corrections, suggestions. Maybe this will
be the start of a "TIPS and TRICKS" FAQ for OpenWrite 2.0
-------------- CUT HERE ---------------------
Note: For a TOC, you need to create a "Book":
Using OpenWrite 2.0, right? :-)
1. Start up OW
2. Document->New->New...->Book
3. Document->Book->New Chapter
4. Give Chapter a name
5. Type the following lines at the beginning:
Title of Section A
Caption One of Section A
Caption Two of Section A
Title of Section B
Caption One of Section B
Caption Two of Section B
Caption Three of Section B
6. From the Style pull-down menu ->Create
7. Push Create Button
8. Again from the Style pull-down menu ->Inspect...
9. Scroll to the left until you reach
the "Based on Style" Box. Rename the style
to "SectionTitle"
10. Scroll to the right until you reach
the "Type" Box. Click on AutoNumber 1
11. Repeat from Step 6 till Step 10 only
change the style name to "FigureCaption"
and in step 10: Click on AutoNumber 2
12. Apply the SectionTitle style to:
Title of Section A
and to:
Title of Section B
13. Apply the FigureCaption style to:
Caption One of Section A
Caption Two of Section A
and to:
Caption One of Section B
Caption Two of Section B
Caption Three of Section B
14. Choose Tools->Style Browser...
15. Click on Formats
16. Click on New...
17. Change the name to "SectionTitle Format"
18. In the Format Description Box type EXACTLY:
"<level 1,ALPHA>. "
DO NOT TYPE THE QUOTE MARKS
That is:<token><period><space>
You could use the Insert Format variable
for other format options.
19. Click O.K. once you finish creating a format
20. Click "New" again in the Style Browser(Format)
to create another format for the figure caption
21. Change the name to: "FigureCaption Format"
22. In the Format Description Box type EXACTLY:
"<tab>Figure <level 1,ALPHA>.<level 2>. "
DO NOT TYPE THE QUOTE MARKS
That is:
<token>"Figure"<space><token><period><token><period><space>
You could use the Insert Format variable
for other format options.
23. Click O.K. once you finish creating a format
24. Go back to your main Document window.
25. Choose Format->Paragraph->AutoNumber
26. Click on Custom... (You need to this only once)
27. Select "Only Show Styles with
AutoNumber Type"
28. Hilite "FigureCaption" and Click on Format...
29. Hilite "FigureCaption Format" and Click OK
30. Hilite "SectionTitle" and Click on Format...
31. Hilite "SectionTitle Format" and Click OK
32. Click "Start..."
33. There you have it: You should see something like:
A. This is the beginning of section A
A.1: This is the caption of figure 1 of section A
A.2: This is the caption of figure 2 of section A
B. This is the beginning of section B
B.1: This is the caption of figure 1 of section B
B.2: This is the caption of figure 2 of section B
B.3: This is the caption of figure 3 of section B
34. To repeat, hilite everything an choose:
Format->Paragraph->Remove Format Markers
35. Click Remove
36. Then choose Format->Paragraph->Autonumber...
37. Click on All...
-------------- CUT HERE ---------------------
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dmurray@music.glas.ac.uk (Duncan Murray(EMU92))
Subject: Re: OWL - how do I load disk images?
Message-ID: <Do2qCB.9w@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Sender: news@udcf.gla.ac.uk (News)
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Service
References: <DnG7I7.JBJ@isltd.insignia.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 22:55:20 GMT
On the topic of Owl, I downloaded the Owl.app but it says I need to get
the os roms from Acorn. Anyone inform me on how to do this? (They are no
longer at the ftp site as explained on the web page). Help !!! I *need*
to play Elite on the NeXT!!!! (Its terrible with SoftPC!!).
Also, anyone have a copy of Exile for the Beeb? If I can get a copy from
somewhere then anyone know how to hack it into the emulator? (I think one
of my friends has it somewhere!!!).
Cheers,
Duncan.
All I need now is an Amiga and Speccy emulator for the NeXT and Im
sorted!! :)
dmurray@music.gla.ac.uk
"Im going to have to stop you there Dougal."
"Why's that Ted?"
"Oh, no reason!" - Father Ted, C4, Fridays 9.30pm
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 11 Mar 1996 05:15:09 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4i0cst$fs8@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
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Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
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A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
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From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Message-ID: <1996Mar11.103530.46121@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 11 Mar 96 10:35:30 MET
References: <1996Mar7.093557.46106@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <4hsngd$b5k@ns.dart.de>
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
In article <4hsngd$b5k@ns.dart.de>, wbeeck@dart.de (Wilfried Beeck) writes:
> We will have a german version of OpenWrite, which we're going to demo at CeBIT
> this week. The german version will have a key-shortcut (command -) for
> soft-hyphens. I think this reduces some of the problems that our german
> customers have with the missing automatic hyphenation.
>
> Other german versions of Lighthouse applications that we're going to introduce
> at CeBIT include Diagram, Concurrence and Quantrix.
>
> My guess is that Lighthouse will supply these german versions (free of charge)
> with their next CD distribution (whenever OmniWeb 2.0 becomes final).
>
> Wilfried Beeck
> DART Software GmbH
> Lighthouse Distribution
> Hamburg, Germany
> http://www.dart.de
--
Yeah, this will hopefully reduce most of my problems, I hope we don't have
to wait too long ;-)
Daniel
***************************************************************
Daniel Haas
Physikalisches Institut
Universitaet Basel
email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please)
smail: D. Haas, Kreuzstrasse 150, D-79540 Loerrach, Germany
homepage: http://www1.psi.ch/~haasd/home.html
(incl. links to magic, search pages and more)
***************************************************************
"Bill Gates wife has informed him that the deployment of
Bill Gates IV has been delayed for another 6 months due to
a redesign of the user interface."
***************************************************************
From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Message-ID: <1996Mar11.103744.46122@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 11 Mar 96 10:37:44 MET
References: <1996Mar5.202327.5949@nidat.sub.org> <4hsthd$i9f@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
In article <4hsthd$i9f@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) writes:
> I just got done creating a demo multi-document Dissertation in
> OpenWrite 2.0 complete with:
>
> Consistent Styles Across Documents
> Intelligent Global page numbers
> (Hint: Place TOC/Front Matter Chapter at end if you want your chapters
> to start with Page 1 (Arabic) and to number the TOC Document with
> Roman.
> Automated Multi-Level Table of Contents
> Autonumbered Chapter Titles
> Autonumbered Figure Captions (1.1, 1.2, 2.1, ...)
> Automated List of Figures
>
> It takes me five commands to update the whole book:
> Autonumber Everything (Chapters, Headings, Figure Captions)
> Generate TOC 1 (For Front matter, Roman Numbering)
> Generate TOC 2 (For Chapter Titles and Subheadings)
> Generate TOC 3 (List of Figures with Page numbers)
> Autonumber Everything (due to my idiosyncratic re-numbering of TOC
> entries)
>
> Next, I'm going to try cross-referencing and indexing.
>
> So far, I like it. :-)
> --
> Wassim M. Jabi
> Doctoral Program in Architecture
> University of Michigan
> 2000 Bonisteel Blvd
> Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
> wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
>
--
For such big projects I still (and forever) prefer LaTeX over every
Word Processor (I don't even have to think about renumbering and updating
cross-references, two new compilations, and everything is fine)
... not to mention the professional output
Daniel
***************************************************************
Daniel Haas
Physikalisches Institut
Universitaet Basel
email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please)
smail: D. Haas, Kreuzstrasse 150, D-79540 Loerrach, Germany
homepage: http://www1.psi.ch/~haasd/home.html
(incl. links to magic, search pages and more)
***************************************************************
"Bill Gates wife has informed him that the deployment of
Bill Gates IV has been delayed for another 6 months due to
a redesign of the user interface."
***************************************************************
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Exist some statistique app ??
Date: 11 Mar 1996 11:29:45 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4i12r9$oso@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <9603071535.AA00371@jupiter.imaginet.fr>
In-Reply-To: <9603071535.AA00371@jupiter.imaginet.fr>
> Exist some statistique apps vor Nextstep 3.3 ?
>
One excellent combination I found recently comes from Allegheny College --
the stats tools for Workench, which operate in conjunction with either Improv
or Quantrix. It's a wonderful example of how to exploit an application
through its API. There are a lot of files (which together give most of the
functionality I've ever used in ESPS) available from:
ftp://ftp.alleg.edu/
Look in:
SDG/Multidisciplinary/Workbench
and
Faculty/Multidiscipliary/StatisticsTools
If you're desperate, mail me and I can either NeXTMail them, or package them
all up and put it on my ftp site.
Many thanks to Chuck Flemming and Judy Halchin who wrote Workbench, and
?David Anderson? who wrote the stats tools (I hope I have his name right -- I
can't find it in the docs)
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: OWL - how do I load disk images?
Message-ID: <Do3syt.HwB@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <Do2qCB.9w@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 12:49:40 GMT
Hey Duncan - you mail bounces...
>On the topic of Owl, I downloaded the Owl.app but it says I need to
get
>the os roms from Acorn. Anyone inform me on how to do this? (They are
no
>longer at the ftp site as explained on the web page).
This doesn't suprise me. It was a blatent breach of copyright.
> Help !!! I *need*
> to play Elite on the NeXT!!!! (Its terrible with SoftPC!!).
Hey - carefull!
I wrote that too :-)
[Haven't tried it, but it should be OK on SoftPC4?]
If you can get round the copyprotected discs, Elite runs OK on Owl
appart from the split screen mode which isn't supported. The top half of
the screen is recognisable, but corrupted.
> Also, anyone have a copy of Exile for the Beeb?
Oh yeah - If you've got the disk images on line, then there's
instructions inside the Owl.app directory for generating accessable file
systems...
>
> All I need now is an Amiga emulator for the NeXT
Done...
The NeXT release of Uae will include a preliminary NeXTStep port.
[Do I have to write ALL the good software round here :-)]
>Speccy emulator for the NeXT
The Spectrum emulators for PC run pretty well under SoftPC. I never
liked Spectrums anyway...
Ian
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OWL - how do I load disk images?
Date: 11 Mar 1996 14:40:38 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <4i1e16$t6l@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <Do2qCB.9w@udcf.gla.ac.uk> <Do3syt.HwB@isltd.insignia.com>
ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk wrote:
: Hey Duncan - you mail bounces...
: >On the topic of Owl, I downloaded the Owl.app but it says I need to
: get
: >the os roms from Acorn. Anyone inform me on how to do this? (They are
: no
: >longer at the ftp site as explained on the web page).
: This doesn't suprise me. It was a blatent breach of copyright.
: > Help !!! I *need*
: > to play Elite on the NeXT!!!! (Its terrible with SoftPC!!).
: Hey - carefull!
: I wrote that too :-)
: [Haven't tried it, but it should be OK on SoftPC4?]
: >Speccy emulator for the NeXT
: The Spectrum emulators for PC run pretty well under SoftPC. I never
: liked Spectrums anyway...
_You'd_ better be careful! Wonna start a flame war right here ??? ;-)
Sinclair rulez!!!
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Date: 11 Mar 1996 10:43:34 EST
From: alexyeh@mail.utexas.edu (Alex Yeh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tailor.app moves to Mac (Re: Visual PostScript Editor for the Mac)
Date: 11 Mar 1996 16:35:46 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4i1kp2$1oo@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4hncd8$iuj@trane.opensource.com> <4ho8tl$7r9@agate.berkeley.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4ho8tl$7r9@agate.berkeley.edu>
On 03/08/96, Izumi Ohzawa wrote:
> It's great that Tailor will now get a large user base it really
> deserves, but it probably means that Tailor for NEXTSTEP will now be (or
> has already been) on the back burner in terms of getting new features.
>
> It may mean that you either have to buy a Mac to have a latest Tailor,
> or move on to OneVision's GUI PS editor. Can anyone post a comparison
> of Tailor and OneVision's eScript (is that the name?) ??
>
Hmm, doesn't look that way to me... the Mac version's still playing catch-up,
as the announcement indicates later on.
I would *hope* that given that FirstClass developed initially on NEXTSTEP,
and that NS is a superior development platform, new features will be tested
out on the NS version, and ported to MacOS...? :-)
Comments from Peter Camp or others would be welcome, though.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: OWL - how do I load disk images?
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <Do415K.3u2@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:46:32 GMT
References: <Do2qCB.9w@udcf.gla.ac.uk> <Do3syt.HwB@isltd.insignia.com>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <Do3syt.HwB@isltd.insignia.com>,
<ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> All I need now is an Amiga emulator for the NeXT
>Done...
>
>The NeXT release of Uae will include a preliminary NeXTStep port.
>[Do I have to write ALL the good software round here :-)]
>
Now, if it would use some of the native CPU resources on black hardware and
not have to resort to software emulation, that would be nice. Emulating a
68000 on a 68040 is kind of silly.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: ukoch@on-luebeck.de (Uwe Koch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC for Windows on a Cube -- Help!!
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:08:53 GMT
Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V.
Message-ID: <4i1mne$7vv@photon.ON-Luebeck.DE>
References: <1996Feb25.153647.9700@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Bob !
problems with Windows ?
It may be a hint - you should not use that.
I had a similar problem with this SoftPC- on NeXT Cube , Windows was
running ok after minimize the window size just a little bit. So I get
it always for the second start ( after resize).
> I don't know why it doesn't "just work"
>like other NeXT programs.
btw : this is a terrible slow software, but the programmers have
simulated also the well known windows bugs, I think :-)
greetings, Uwe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: OWL - how do I load disk images?
Message-ID: <Do464L.1Dx@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <4i1e16$t6l@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:33:57 GMT
In article <4i1e16$t6l@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
> _You'd_ better be careful! Wonna start a flame war right here ??? ;-)
> Sinclair rulez!!!
The Sinclair Rules?
1) You mustn't leave a machine turned on for more than 30mins or it will
overheat.
2) No Jiggling the table while the computer is turned on
3) Don't display more than on colour in a character block.
4) Don't make more than one noise at once.
5) all equipment must be returned to the manufacturer at least twice
;-)
Ian
From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: eps to tiff converter
Date: 11 Mar 1996 18:10:10 GMT
Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content
Message-ID: <4i1qa2$4b7@miwok.nbn.com>
References: <4hj0j8$9if@nexus.polaris.net> <4hleal$fe0@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
I> There is a command-line epstotiff somewhere. I used to use
> it and I even had a little spreadsheet to figure out
> resolution and size. But....
> I have been using GS Corp's *excellent* TIFFPrinter Driver.
> This is really a simple and neat idea. Using their software, you can
> create a virtual Printer that prints to a TIFF file, you
> can specify options such as resolution and Anti-Aliasing.
> The TIFF Printer is listed in the Print Panel just like
> any other printer. So, you can "print" from any application.
> Only, you find the output as a TIFF file in the /tmp directory.
>
> I got addicted to it for graphics on the Web.
>
> Check out http://www.gscorp.com/
> For some examples of output:
> Check out http://libra.caup.umich.edu/www/Flow/
> Note: Not affiliated with GSCorp (Although, I wish I was :-)
>
>
Hi There:
<shamelessplug>
For anyone who's interested, this page provides a nice "before/after"
illustration of our eXTRATIFF print driver:
http://www.gscorp.com/V2.0/eXTRAPRINT/eXTRATIFF.html
</shamelessplug>
Best regards,
John
john@gscorp.com
http://www.gscorp.com
From: ir003093@interramp.com (Eric Bloom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: eps to tiff converter
Date: 7 Mar 1996 06:32:18 GMT
Organization: Bacchus, Inc.
Message-ID: <4hlvti$qms@usenet4.interramp.com>
References: <4hj0j8$9if@nexus.polaris.net> <4hkouf$7iv@usenet4.interramp.com>
ir003093@interramp.com (Eric Bloom) wrote:
> fordp@polaris.net (Perrone Ford) wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am looking for what I think should be VERY simple. I need to
> > convert an EPS image to tiff format. I have used all the basic tools
> > to try and get the job done, but to no avail. All of the tools that I
> > have at my disposal convert the image to a tiff with a 72dpi resolution.
> > Now I don't know about YOUR print habits, but 72dpi images look pretty
> > rough coming out of MY NeXTPrinter.
> >
> > Does anyone have a better mousetrap? Or would someone be willing to
> > "loan" me a license for tiffany for a week? I just have one project
> > to finish, and I will be done. How much IS a license for TiffanyII
anyway?
> >
> > -P
> >
> >
> > --
> > <----------------------------------------------------------->
> > Perrone Ford 1320 Terrace St.
> > HighTime Web Development Tallahassee, FL 32303
> > (904) 222-0620 or 681-6322 hightime@polaris.net
>
> Our commercial application, Pixel Magician, handles PostScript to raster
> conversions with variable resolutions.
>
>
> For more information, contact:
>
> Bacchus, Inc.
> info@bacchus.com
Since some of our users appear to be a little confused about PostScript to
raster conversions, we are posting a detailed example (taken from the online
help)...
Pixel Magician can convert PostScript files to any of the supported raster
formats. Converting PostScript to raster is useful for cases when NEXTSTEP
PostScript files cannot be read by other applications on other platforms. In
these cases you can use Pixel Magician to convert to a raster image format
that the application can understand, e.g., TIFF, PICT etc etc. In addition to
simply converting PostScript to a raster format, you can use Pixel Magician
to change the resolution before rasterizing. Since PostScript files contain
continuously scalable data, i.e., fonts, lines, curves, Pixel Magician uses
the NEXTSTEP Window Server to smoothly scale the image to the desired size.
Say you want your final image to be 8.5" wide, 11" high and your output
device is 400 dpi. You would perform the following steps...
1. Open the image.
2. Open the Image inspector.
3. Set the inspector to "Scale", "Units" should be set to Pixels.
4. Set the width to 3400 ( 8.5 x 400 = 3400 ).
5. Set the height to 4400 (11.0 x 400 = 4400 ).
6. Press the apply button to perform the scaling.
7. Save to a TIFF file.
8. Open the TIFF file.
9. Set the inspector to "Scale", "Units" should be set to Pixels.
10. Set the DPI-X and DPI-Y fields to 400.
11. Press apply to code in the DPI values.
12. Re-save to TIFF, i.e, simply replace the TIFF file from step 8.
The resultant TIFF image will have no loss of image quality for the specified
size and resolution.
If the output file type does not support resolution fields, you can
skip steps 8-12. Formats that support resolution fields include TIFF, PICT,
Windows BMP and PXM.
---------
Eric Bloom
Bacchus, Inc.
support@bacchus.com
From: nielsen_maa@ccsu.ctstateu.edu (Mark Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC program for NeXTSTEP?
Date: 11 Mar 1996 20:32:04 GMT
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Message-ID: <4i22k4$elo@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
Does anyone know a good IRC program for NeXTSTEP? I've only found one and it
was the worst IRC program I've ever seen! The NeXTSTEP machines sould have a
great IRC program availible! Thanks for your help!
DarkJedi
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: breaking up large files
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:29:13 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311152719.10579C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
My apologies for asking an old question, but I can't seem to find the answer.
What is the best/easiest way to break up large files? Specifically
.tar.gz files.
I tried to use the GNU split command, but I couldn't seem to get it to
break them up as I wanted them (1.3 meg chunks).
Anyone use the gsplit command often enough to know what I'm trying to do?
Thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: xdf floppies & NeXTStation
Message-ID: <1996Mar11.164334.890@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4htc5c$hd4@chinx4.thoughtport.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:43:34 GMT
In article <4htc5c$hd4@chinx4.thoughtport.net> lacourse (Dan LaCourse)
writes:
> I recently decided to install PC DOS 7.0 in SoftPC on my non-Turbo
> NeXTStation. Unfortunately, the installation disks are in IBM's
> xdf format, which the Station does not recognize. It ejects the
> disk a few moments after I insert it (after probing for all the
> file systems it knows about). Anyone know if it's possible to
> get the Station to recognize this floppy (I assume that'd require
> an xdf filesystem description in /usr/filesystems).
>
Hope you don't feel too sad about that. The action won't work anyway!
SoftPC comes with a modified system, a standard system won't run (be it
3.3 or 7.0 ;-) And xdf support in NEXSTEP, albeit a good thing, would
only make the floppies be accessible by NEXTSTEP. What you possibly could
get is transparent mapping of xdf as NEXTSTEP filesystem in SoftPC.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp, MIME, NeXTmail # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Paul R. Brown <pbrown@math.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Date: 12 Mar 1996 01:20:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <4i2jhq$s7j@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311152719.10579C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> My apologies for asking an old question, but I can't seem to
> find the answer.
> What is the best/easiest way to break up large files?
> Specifically .tar.gz files.
> I tried to use the GNU split command, but I couldn't seem to
> get it to break them up as I wanted them (1.3 meg chunks).
> Anyone use the gsplit command often enough to know what I'm
> trying to do?
Can't you run the command with the -L option to split into
chunks of L lines each? It works fine on binary files; just
cat them back together when you're done.
There was also a BreakUp.app out there a while ago, probably
from 2.1 days. It's probably lying around somewhere on the
archives.
Paul
From: Alex Blakemore <alex@genoa.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 11 Mar 1996 03:35:52 GMT
Organization: Genoa Software Systems
Message-ID: <4i072o$8bm@saturn.genoa.com>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4h7do8$qv3@tigger.planet.eon.net>
<4h8p4s$out@nntp1.best.com> <4h8rrl$a90@tigger.planet.eon.net>
<4h9mse$k9j@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <4hdlb7$a2q@news4.digex.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) wrote:
> RadicalNews ... sports a really nice interface. An excellent piece of work
John Kheit wrote:
> everyone has there own likes ...
> I really don't like the RNews UI at all.
> It's another instance of breaking UI conformity rules...
How does RNews breaks the UI guidelines?
The (useful) page advance buttons on the scrollers? The use of color?
I'd honestly like to know.
As far as I can tell, they follow the UI guidelines pretty closely, and the
few minor extensions are for very good reasons and feel like natural
extensions of the NEXTSTEP UI.
I think they've done a fine job so far, and it keeps getting better.
--
Alex Blakemore
alex@genoa.com NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail accepted
From: BladeRunnerBlues@LegendofLunar.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:58:26 -0800
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <31450472.515@LegendofLunar.edu>
References: <DnotGs.u3@manki.toppoint.de> <1996Mar3.214712.8464@seer.demon.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk
Hyphenation functionality is very useful addition to justification,
especially when the last word of a line is very long. Without
hypenation you'd have the word skipped to the next line, leaving
long, disproportionate, blank spaces in between words. Hyphenation
solves this problem elegantly.
Paul Lynch wrote:
>
> In article <DnotGs.u3@manki.toppoint.de> manroe@manki.toppoint.de (M.
> Roehr) writes:
> > In article <4h0am0$5ea@news1.channel1.com> allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan
> S.
> > MacKinnon) writes:
> > >
> > > I'm running the demo CD of OW 2.0 and it seems pretty
> > > good...
> > >
> > > Anyone care to comment about it?
> >
> > A word-processor without any hyphenation should not be allowed named a
> > wordprocessor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> This may apply for your situation. I can honestly say that I have never
> ever used, needed or wished for hyphenation in a word processor.
>
> Paul
> --
> Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
> http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: Marc@AccessOne.com(Marc Salvatori)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TopDesk Issues
Date: 12 Mar 1996 05:57:00 GMT
Organization: AccessOne
Message-ID: <4i33nc$60q@news.accessone.com>
Keywords: virtual desktop
Being tempted to post this to c.s.n.b, I thought I'd first check with follow
users to see if they share similar experiences.
I'm using NS3.3(with patch) and new serial drivers, along with the latest
TopDesk v1.01. I run my system at 1600x1200x(4x4x4x4)@77Hz. Yeah, yeah.
Go ahead and laugh, but IMHO you can never have too much desktop space.
TopDesk ran in 2x2 mode. Two issues have caused me to decide against using
this app any further.
The first issue involves the SevyLicense routine. When TopDesk tries to
authenticate, it apparently broadcasts a query to local DNS and has the
undesired effect of triggering dial-on-demand.
Equally concerning are the occasional system panics stemming from "invalid
frame pointer" and "Failed instruction exception" messages. I believe these
panics are caused by TopDesk because frames are the essence of this
application, and the most recent incident resulted in my loss of a word
processing document which turned out to be almost(one pixel's width)
entirely out of range of the virtual screen. Also, since removing TopDesk
from my environment, my system is more stable and responsive; more time will
confirm whether or not this improvement is a fluke.
As for TopDesk's developer, Yves Arrouye, repeated E-mail to him remain
unanswered. Has anyone been in touch with him lately?
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori |
><
>< mailto:salvo@eskimo.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted
><
From: everhart@alterlife.com (Dwight Everhart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 12 Mar 1996 06:38:58 GMT
Organization: IntelliNet-ISP, LLC. 1-800-290-7677
Message-ID: <4i3663$i7m@zeus.intellinet.com>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4hhqss$jqp@tandem.CAM.ORG>
<4hjoj2$1vk2@ftp.univie.ac.at> <4htdr3$h6c@uuneo.neosoft.com>
In <4htdr3$h6c@uuneo.neosoft.com> Robert B. Love wrote:
> I've got to pipe up and remind everybody to try RadicalNews. I've
> found the developers _very_ responsive to my suggestions. The
> features and price ain't bad either.
Yes, RadicalNews is very nice, especially its split view for threads.
--
Dwight Everhart "You can't do a musical number
Ex Nicole Bobek Coach involving elephants that isn't obvious."
Bella Vista, Arkansas -- Roger Ebert
everhart@alterlife.com
From: domingod@cs.ucdavis.edu (Dennis Reyes Domingo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEWBIE ?? regarding modem software/binaries
Date: 11 Mar 1996 19:29:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Message-ID: <4i1uuo$8c0@mark.ucdavis.edu>
Hi all. I was wondering if there is some type of modem
software or some source code so I can run so I can
connect my nextstation to my university's computers.
Any help would be greatly appreciated... i'm still learning
this stuff.
thank you.
dennis r. domingo
From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: 12 Mar 1996 06:56:40 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <4i3778$53h@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
References: <1996Mar5.202327.5949@nidat.sub.org> <1996Mar6.065728.17169@seer.demon.co.uk> <1996Mar7.093557.46106@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <4hsthd$i9f@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <4i04uc$2dg@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Wassim M. Jabi (wjabi@umich.edu) wrote:
> Some of you wanted to know how I created AutoNumbered List
> of Figures. ...
...
> 1. Start up OW
> 2. Document->New->New...->Book
...
> 36. Then choose Format->Paragraph->Autonumber...
> 37. Click on All...
I think I'll stick to LaTeX for this kind of work. MUCH simpler:
1. add to the preamble:
\def\thefigure{\Alph{section}.\arabic{figure}}
--
G.J. van Oldenborgh
Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics, Leiden University
email: gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl
web: http://rulgm4.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html
From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ** Final Sprint ** : Save OPENSTEP for HP-PA
Date: 12 Mar 1996 08:22:34 GMT
Organization: GMD-FOKUS
Message-ID: <4i3c8a$6p1@stern.fokus.gmd.de>
Dear colleagues,
up to now (March 12, 9:00 MST) I've got 87 responses to be included in my
petition which I will sent to NeXT and HP shortly after March 15.
To be remembered:
Several sources has proved true, that NeXT will not
support the HP platform anymore.
So:
NO OPENSTEP for Mach for HP-PA
NO OPENSTEP for HP-UX
NO more NeXTSTEP for our HP-PA Boxes
If you want to partipipate in this petition as a signatory, please send me your
business card (ASCII) and write some comments.
Thanks to all who have yet participated and to those, who will join NOW!
Robert.
========= Petition for saving OPENSTEP/HP-PA ===========
Dear Madams and Sirs,
all rumours that NeXT don't want to support the HP-PA platform seem to become
true. All the signatories of this petition beg you to think over this decision
one more time.
We all think this is an extremely poor decision on the part of NeXT. It may be
penny wise, but it is certainly pound foolish, because it shows a lack of an
extremely important quality for a corporation --- integrity. Integrity always
involves some sacrifice on the micro-scale, but serves to promote macro-scale
qualities --- e.g. trust and solidity. NeXT probably figured out that
supporting HP-PA wasn't worth the revenue it would generate. That's the
micro-scale. But dropping HP support undermines - AGAIN - trust in making any
kind of resource commitment toward NeXT --- NeXT appears to lack integrity
towards its users.
The people who have made big investments in HP hardware with the purpose of
running and developing NS (of which there are some big customers) are very
likely to drop NeXT as a viable company and might suggest everyone to do
similar or will at least make very bad
publicity of NeXT.
The people who haven't made these investments yet but follow the whole scene,
aren't very likely to commit with a company that sells an OS on a specific
hardware platform on only 1 or 2 point-releases (NS3.2-NS3.3) and drop it
immediately afterwards.
The HP platform is powerful and 'up-to-date' and will be built and supported
the next years at least (not like the black hardware of some years ago). It
would also be a good alternative of developing OpenStep on a powerful Risc
platform, so that people have a choice besides Sparc.
Besides, which other fully featured - OO Operating System can claim that it
runs on that many platforms without any major problems ? Isn't this a major
marketing point, being the only one on the market, or is marketing not
important for NeXT ?
Moreover many of us will loose not even money, but - which will be of more
importance at all - we will loose our confidence in NeXT.
Best regards,
- all the signatories -
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Thanks to Lee Altenberg and Stefan Bossuwe for their phrasings and suggestions
to this draft)
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Robert Fischer @ GMD-Fokus -------- __o
------- _`\<,_
fischer@fokus.gmd.de ------- (*)/ (*) ## NeXT-Mail welcome ##
Initiative for OPENSTEP/HP-PA:
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/ovma/employees/fischer/SaveOPENSTEP-HP.html
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HTML Table Editor Application?
Date: 12 Mar 1996 06:47:08 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <4i36lc$2ch@digifix.digifix.com>
Has anyone put together a basic HTML table editor for NEXTSTEP?
Something that uses the NXTableView or the like, and can read a table
delimited by tabs..
I've got a Quantrix spreadsheet with 40 columns x 100 rows of stuff
that I need to throw into a number of different HTML tables, either
including everything, or only selected rows..
My other option is to hack some PERL that will write it out in
NSDictionary entries, and then use a database approach...
Any help would be appreciated!
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
http://www.stepwise.com/ (Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server)
From: ed@FirstLink.com (Ed DeBolt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC display problem
Date: 12 Mar 1996 02:58:36 GMT
Organization: Denver Online
Distribution: USA
Message-ID: <4i2p8s$do8@axil.DenverOnline.com>
I have softPC 4.0 running on my Object Station 41.
When I run 1280 X 1020 resolution then SoftPC is black and white.
Anyone experience this?
--
Ed DeBolt 303-818-8492 (voice)
First Link Consulting 303-417-1517 (fax)
875 7th Street ed@firstlink.com
Boulder CO 80302 NEXT/MIME OK
From: Stephen_MacDougall@radium.ca (Stephen MacDougall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: URGENT HELP! file recovery
Date: 9 Mar 1996 10:14:56 GMT
Organization: ftn Internet
Message-ID: <4hrln0$t3@master.ftn.net>
References: <4h224f$o7a@news.tamu.edu> <4h3tft$bq@turbocat.snafu.de>
<4h5h58$ggn@usc.edu>
In <4h5h58$ggn@usc.edu>, Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
| In <4h3tft$bq@turbocat.snafu.de> David Wetzel wrote:
| > stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) wrote:
| > > Does anyone know of a way to recover files after they have been
DESTROYED
|
| > > from the NS Workspace - a utility I can get, a company that will do it?
| >
| > "gnutar xvzf /dev/rst0" ;-)
|
| I looked this up on the man page, but I still don't get how this does what
is
| being called for.
|
|
It's called "Restore the information from the backup tape (tm)". That is the
only way to recover lost data. When MachOS (and most UNIX's) destroy
something, it's **DESTROYED**!!
Regards,
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Stephen MacDougall
Director of Research and Development
RADium Technology Centre (Canada)
Stephen_MacDougall@RADium.ca
NeXT and MIME mail gladly accepted
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: Sean Willson <premise@engin.umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IRC program for NeXTSTEP?
Date: 12 Mar 1996 20:38:02 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4i4nba$l1o@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <4i22k4$elo@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
In article <4i22k4$elo@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
nielsen_maa@ccsu.ctstateu.edu (Mark Nielsen) wrote:
>
> Does anyone know a good IRC program for NeXTSTEP? I've only found one and it
> was the worst IRC program I've ever seen! The NeXTSTEP machines sould have a
> great IRC program availible! Thanks for your help!
>
> DarkJedi
Check out the IRC application I am programming at:
http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~premise/foundation/encircle/
It is called Encircle. The 0.11 release is REALLY basic, but the next release 0.7
has a lot of features and functionality. I plan on supporting all the ircII commands
in some way or another by release 1.0 which will be before May.....Tell me what
you think...
Sean Willson
NeXTMan (irc nick)
premise@engin.umich.edu
P.S. If my application is the one you are speaking of, do you realize that it is
a 0.11release and it is just to get something out there, and two that I am
following a different design methodology for doing it, not just putting a GUI
on ircII. I am trying to make it as intuitive as possible without all the "/"
command crap.....Comments welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wo gibt es Maple fr NS (Intel)
Date: 12 Mar 1996 16:31:39 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <4i48tb$8kh@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Ich bin auf der Suche nach Maple fr NS (Intel).
Wo kann ich das in Deutschland bekommen (vielleicht will ja jemand sein
gebrauchtes verkaufen)? Auf der Homepage (http://www.maplesoft.com) gab es
einen Verweis auf die Firma Scientific Computers (http://www.scientific.de) hier
in Deutschland. Als ich dort per Mail nachfragen wollte, kam diese mit dem
Vermerk 'unknown Host' zurck.
Wo kann ich also an eine (mglichst billige) Version von Maple rankommen?
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
Juergen Grieb ** 71263 Weil der Stadt/Germany ** Tel. +7033 - 31663
e-mail: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail and Mime welcome
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Picard: Well, five-card stud, nothing wild - and the sky's the limit...
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TopDesk Issues
Date: 12 Mar 1996 16:18:38 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <4i484u$8jn@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
References: <4i33nc$60q@news.accessone.com>
In <4i33nc$60q@news.accessone.com> Marc Salvatori wrote:
: Equally concerning are the occasional system panics stemming from "invalid
: frame pointer" and "Failed instruction exception" messages. I believe these
: panics are caused by TopDesk because frames are the essence of this
: application, and the most recent incident resulted in my loss of a word
: processing document which turned out to be almost(one pixel's width)
: entirely out of range of the virtual screen. Also, since removing TopDesk
: from my environment, my system is more stable and responsive; more time will
: confirm whether or not this improvement is a fluke.
:
: As for TopDesk's developer, Yves Arrouye, repeated E-mail to him remain
: unanswered. Has anyone been in touch with him lately?
:
Yes, I was exchanging mail with him about 3-5 months ago. I had similar problems
than you have. Most of all it happened too frequently, that app windows were
placed where they didn't belong or even weren't reachable at all.
All that Yves said was that I'm the only one having this kind of trouble and he
couldn't imagine why I have them.
I also had the impression that my system wasn't running as stable as before. So
I removed TopDesk and the Licemse Server. So everything has been fine since.
Except I don't have a program like TopDesk.
Isn't there anything like it for NS? Some virtual screens would be very nice
under NS.
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
Juergen Grieb ** 71263 Weil der Stadt/Germany ** Tel. +7033 - 31663
e-mail: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail and Mime welcome
PGP-Key is available (please request it, so mail exchange will be safe)
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TopDesk Issues
Date: 13 Mar 1996 00:35:19 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-25.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4i5587$i90@usc.edu>
References: <4i33nc$60q@news.accessone.com> <4i484u$8jn@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
In <4i484u$8jn@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Juergen Grieb wrote:
> In <4i33nc$60q@news.accessone.com> Marc Salvatori wrote:
> : Equally concerning are the occasional system panics stemming from
"invalid
> : frame pointer" and "Failed instruction exception" messages. I believe
these
> : panics are caused by TopDesk because frames are the essence of this
> : application, and the most recent incident resulted in my loss of a word
> : processing document which turned out to be almost(one pixel's width)
> : entirely out of range of the virtual screen. Also, since removing
TopDesk
> : from my environment, my system is more stable and responsive; more time
will
> : confirm whether or not this improvement is a fluke.
> :
> : As for TopDesk's developer, Yves Arrouye, repeated E-mail to him remain
> : unanswered. Has anyone been in touch with him lately?
> :
>
> Yes, I was exchanging mail with him about 3-5 months ago. I had similar
problems
> than you have. Most of all it happened too frequently, that app windows
were
> placed where they didn't belong or even weren't reachable at all.
> All that Yves said was that I'm the only one having this kind of trouble
and he
> couldn't imagine why I have them.
> I also had the impression that my system wasn't running as stable as
before. So
> I removed TopDesk and the Licemse Server. So everything has been fine
since.
> Except I don't have a program like TopDesk.
1) There's VirtDesk or something like that which you can find at OpenSource
2) Is there any correlation between the Sevy License Server and instability?
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
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From: jacobso6@facstaff.wisc.edu (Troy Jacobson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: High quality audio recording
Date: 13 Mar 1996 01:38:11 GMT
Organization: Trace Center
Message-ID: <4i58u3$a38@news.doit.wisc.edu>
I would like to use my PC to do some high quality audio recording, much
like a hard disk recorder with quality to match a good home audio system.
Is anyone doing this? I would like to know what hardware and software you
are using.
I've seen the program called Production Partner. Any comments?
Non NeXT folks have highly recommended the CardD from Digital Audio Labs.
Is there a NeXT driver for it? Any other suggestions?
Thanks for any replies.
Troy
jacobso@facstaff.wisc.edu
From: hugues@precipice.fdn.org (Hugues RICHARD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tailor.app moves to Mac (Re: Visual PostScript Editor for the Mac)
Date: 12 Mar 1996 18:38:11 GMT
Organization: Individual - France
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4i4gaj$151@precipice.fdn.fr>
References: <4ho8tl$7r9@agate.berkeley.edu>
In article <4ho8tl$7r9@agate.berkeley.edu> izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi
Ohzawa) writes:
> It may mean that you either have to buy a Mac to have a latest Tailor,
> or move on to OneVision's GUI PS editor. Can anyone post a comparison
> of Tailor and OneVision's eScript (is that the name?) ??
Tailor and ePSscript isn't the same thing.
- Tailor is a EPS reader and editor app.
- ePSscript is a module of the OneVision package. It is an EPS and PDF
converter only. It convert the file in a OneVision page. You then have to have
the drawing module (I don't remember its name and since I'm on NS3.0J, I can't
actually run it) to modify it...
If you want a more visual comparison, just imagine that ePSscript is the
Illustrator 6.0 PS level 1 importer plug-in, except that ePSscript (and also
Tailor) read PS level II files...
This two NS 3rd party apps are ahead of the leading Adobe drawing app :-)
I still have to finish the exploration of OneVision, so I won't tell more, not
to tell erroneous things.
Hugues.
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------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: Alex Horovitz <alexh@csdesigns.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Perl 4.036 and NeXT Mach
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:59:47 +0000
Organization: Hooked Online Services
Message-ID: <3145BB93.6820@csdesigns.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Has anyone out there managed to get the gnu perl-4.036 to compile on
a black box running NS 3.3 User&Dev? If someone knows of a perl
binary that will run on th NeXT mach please let me know.
Graciously,
Alex
From: Gnther Hornung <alcatel@ilk.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Drivers for IOtech SCSI 488/N Bus Controller
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 07:52:03 +0100
Organization: Alcatel SEL
Message-ID: <31467093.60B6@ilk.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
We use the SCSI 488/N Bus controller from IOtech. The driver version is
1.01 for NeXTstep 2.x.
We'd like to connect the interface to HP-workstations running under
NeXTstep 3.3.
Are there any drivers for it and is the source for the routines
available? Are there any information on the Web about it?
Thanks,
Uli
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mdriftme@mail.wsu.edu (Marc J. Driftmeyer)
Subject: Re: Wanted-NS POP3 Server
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Message-ID: <Do4Ltz.H5L@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 07:12:17 GMT
References: <31409D1A.4B5B@earthlink.net>
Organization: Washington State University
The last I saw POPOver 1.4 should be at ftp://next-ftp.peak.org
somewhere around binaries under Networking section.
Peter Truskier <ptruskier@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I'm looking for a pre-compiled or readily compilable POP3 server to run
>on 68040 Cube or ColorStation.
>Anybody have any help ?
>Thanks
>----
>Peter Truskier
>STAR Graphic Arts Co., Inc.
>Brisbane, CA
>415-656-2222
>----
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The Personal Computing Center
Information Technologies Bldg. Rm#2088
Washington State University
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(509)335-0518 (work)
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From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: 13 Mar 1996 04:29:11 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <4i5iun$1k8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <1996Mar5.202327.5949@nidat.sub.org> <4hsthd$i9f@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1996Mar11.103744.46122@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
In-Reply-To: <1996Mar11.103744.46122@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
On 03/11/96, Daniel Haas wrote:
>For such big projects I still (and forever) prefer LaTeX over every
>Word Processor (I don't even have to think about renumbering and
updating
>cross-references, two new compilations, and everything is fine)
>
>.... not to mention the professional output
>
>Daniel
>
>***************************************************************
>Daniel Haas
>Physikalisches Institut
>Universitaet Basel
>email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please)
>smail: D. Haas, Kreuzstrasse 150, D-79540 Loerrach, Germany
>homepage: http://www1.psi.ch/~haasd/home.html
> (incl. links to magic, search pages and more)
>***************************************************************
>"Bill Gates wife has informed him that the deployment of
>Bill Gates IV has been delayed for another 6 months due to
>a redesign of the user interface."
>***************************************************************
>
A year ago I installed LaTeX and tried it out. I'd still
rather drag and drop figures and equations and click on
them to edit them in the original application (Thanks to OOE)
and actually see what I am getting as I type.
So far, OpenWrite, while quirky, and even buggy in some
instances, has exceeded my expectations in coping with
a "Book" document. I never expected it to generate
a TOC that needed less work afterwards than if I had generated it in
MS-Word (and I work extensively with MS-Word).
While OW's output is decent, TeX's output is unbeatable.
BTW, I put up a copy of my demo dissertation on my ftp server:
ftp://libra.caup.umich.edu/pub/next/documents/Dissertation.openbook.ta
r.gz
Check it out, you might need to Autonumber once to get things right.
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: Christian Greissing <manitu@cslab.tuwien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CDromWriter Software
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 12:08:26 +0100
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <3146ACAA.41C6@cslab.tuwien.ac.at>
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Hello
Does anyone know a CDromWriter software for NeXTstep (Intelbased)
Thanx
Christian
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From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: eps to tiff converter
Date: 13 Mar 1996 12:11:13 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4i6e11$bub@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <4i1qa2$4b7@miwok.nbn.com>
In article <4i1qa2$4b7@miwok.nbn.com> john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox) writes:
> I> There is a command-line epstotiff somewhere. I used to use
Since it is so short, I guess I can post it here (the man page has been
posted already). I only changed the scale from int to float to have more
flexibility. When you run that program, you will see that the tiff is still
72DPI, but you can use scale to actually have as many pixels as you want. I
use it to make color tiffs for our WINDOZE-printer. Figuring out the right
scale factor is a bit a hassle, but, hey it is free!
I have to say that I am NOT the author of this program, just a satisfied user
:-)
#include <stdio.h>
#import <dpsclient/event.h>
#import <appkit/appkit.h>
#import <appkit/NXImage.h>
#import <appkit/NXEPSImageRep.h>
#import <appkit/NXBitmapImageRep.h>
#import <appkit/View.h>
#import <appkit/Window.h>
#import <appkit/graphics.h>
#import <appkit/tiff.h>
#import <streams/streams.h>
// to compile cc -g -o eps2tiff eps2tiff.m -lNeXT_s
void main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
NXStream *fp, *fpz;
id myRep, myWindow;
NXSize theSize;
char filename[80];
extern char *optarg;
extern int optind;
float scale = 1.0;
int c;
int depth = 24;
//added by GWR, 10/27/92
int compressionType = NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_NONE;
int errflg = 0;
id myTiffRep;
float compressionFactor = 0.0;
optind = 1;
while ((c = getopt(argc, argv, "zj:d:s:")) != EOF) {
switch (c) {
case 'd': {
(void) sscanf (optarg, "%d", &depth);
break;
}
case 's': {
(void) sscanf (optarg, "%f", &scale);
break;
}
case 'z': {
compressionType = NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_LZW;
break;
}
case 'j': {
compressionType = NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_JPEG;
(void) sscanf (optarg, "%f", &compressionFactor);
break;
}
default: {
errflg++;
}
}
if (errflg) {
fprintf(stderr, "Usage:eps2tiff [-d nn] [-s nn] [-z] [-j nn]
infile outfile\n");
exit(2);
}
}
strcpy(filename, argv[optind++]);
fprintf(stderr,"input = %s scale = %f\n", filename, scale);
[Application new];
myWindow = [[Window alloc] init];
[myWindow setDepthLimit: NX_TwentyFourBitRGBDepth];
fp = NXOpenMemory(NULL, 0, NX_READWRITE);
myRep = [[NXImage alloc] initFromFile:filename];
[myRep getSize: &theSize]; /* this is where you get the size */
[myRep setScalable: YES]; /* this is where you change it! */
theSize.width *= scale;
theSize.height *= scale;
[myRep setSize: &theSize];
[myRep setBackgroundColor: NX_COLORWHITE];
[myRep setCacheDepthBounded:NO];
if ([myRep isCacheDepthBounded]) fprintf(stderr,"CacheDepth is Bounded\n");
switch (depth) {
case 2: {
[myRep useCacheWithDepth: NX_TwoBitGrayDepth];
break;
}
case 8: {
[myRep useCacheWithDepth: NX_EightBitGrayDepth];
break;
}
case 12: {
[myRep useCacheWithDepth: NX_TwelveBitRGBDepth];
break;
}
case 24: {
[myRep useCacheWithDepth: NX_TwentyFourBitRGBDepth];
break;
}
default: {
fprintf(stderr, "You want a depth of %d but I can only give\
you 2, 8, 12 or 24 bit depth...\nyou will get 24 bits this time\n", depth);
}
}
[myRep writeTIFF: fp allRepresentations: NO];
if (((compressionType == NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_LZW)||(compressionType ==
NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_JPEG)) &&(depth==2)){
fprintf(stderr, "Unable to compress a 2-bit grayscale image: saving
as uncompressed\n");
compressionType = NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_NONE;
}
switch (compressionType) {
case NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_NONE: {
NXSaveToFile(fp, argv[optind]);
NXCloseMemory(fp, NX_FREEBUFFER);
break;
}
case NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_JPEG:{
fpz = NXOpenMemory(NULL, 0, NX_READWRITE);
if (!(myTiffRep = [[NXBitmapImageRep alloc]
initFromStream:fp]))
fprintf(stderr,"myTiffRep failed initialization\n");
NXCloseMemory(fp, NX_FREEBUFFER);
fprintf(stderr, "Compressing file %s as jpeg(%f)...
",filename, compressionFactor);
[myTiffRep writeTIFF:fpz
usingCompression:NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_JPEG andFactor:compressionFactor];
fprintf(stderr, "Writing %s \n",argv[optind]);
NXSaveToFile(fpz, argv[optind]);
NXCloseMemory(fpz, NX_FREEBUFFER);
break;
}
case NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_LZW:{
fpz = NXOpenMemory(NULL, 0, NX_READWRITE);
if (!(myTiffRep = [[NXBitmapImageRep alloc]
initFromStream:fp]))
fprintf(stderr,"myTiffRep failed initialization\n");
NXCloseMemory(fp, NX_FREEBUFFER);
fprintf(stderr, "Compressing file %s as lzw-tiff...
",filename);
[myTiffRep writeTIFF:fpz
usingCompression:NX_TIFF_COMPRESSION_LZW];
fprintf(stderr, "Writing %s \n",argv[optind]);
NXSaveToFile(fpz, argv[optind]);
NXCloseMemory(fpz, NX_FREEBUFFER);
break;
}
}
}
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 10:35:05 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960312103238.16994J-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311152719.10579C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4i2jhq$s7j@agate.berkeley.edu>
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On 12 Mar 1996, Paul R. Brown wrote:
> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
>
> > My apologies for asking an old question, but I can't seem to
> > find the answer.
> > What is the best/easiest way to break up large files?
> > Specifically .tar.gz files.
> > I tried to use the GNU split command, but I couldn't seem to
> > get it to break them up as I wanted them (1.3 meg chunks).
> > Anyone use the gsplit command often enough to know what I'm
> > trying to do?
>
> Can't you run the command with the -L option to split into
> chunks of L lines each? It works fine on binary files; just
> cat them back together when you're done.
Well, I don't know how many lines of a 'tar.gz' file = 1.3 meg, or else I
might try it.
>
> There was also a BreakUp.app out there a while ago, probably
> from 2.1 days. It's probably lying around somewhere on the
> archives.
Indeed it is, on peanuts and it's mirrors, like:
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/disk/BreakUp.0.8.N.b.gnutar.gz
However, it does not recognize .tar.gz files in its open panel. I am in
contact with the author to see what (if anything) can be done, including
compiling a 'fat' version if possible.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles,
swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ,
and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: High quality audio recording
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 14:32:00 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960313142948.6173C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <4i58u3$a38@news.doit.wisc.edu>
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You may want to try SASoundStudio, if you do not need much professional
use. It's currently in alpha stage and developing is continued if I get
more spare time the next month.
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/next/Audio/apps/SASoundStudio*
Greetings,
Bernhard.
--
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny)
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/
scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: Jonathan.Rice@tcd.ie (Jonathan Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tricks?
Date: 11 Mar 1996 12:07:42 GMT
Organization: TCD, Computer Science
Message-ID: <4i152e$mu0@news.cs.tcd.ie>
References: <4hqv0i$dl@serv.hinet.net> <4hrnp7$qv5@news.tuwien.ac.at>
wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie) wrote:
>In <4hqv0i$dl@serv.hinet.net> James C. Lin wrote:
>> Are there tricks to use ftp over Omniweb? I havn't successful tranfer
>> any file from it. Isn't ftp://next-ftp.peak.org the correct syntax?
>
>The syntax looks allright. What version of OW are you using? OmniWeb 2 Beta-3
>had a damaged ftp interface. The current beta-6 release works like a charm.
>(Even when I just click on the URL zap RadicalNews inserts into your posting
>;-) ...
>
Well, I've had quite a few FTP problems with OmniWeb beta-6, the latest not ten
minutes ago. When transferring large files from slow sites (I wish I didn't have
to do this, but it happens), my setup has just dropped the transfer on several
occasions. Now, I *am* working via a proxy server, so maybe it's an interaction
there, or maybe it's completely the fault of the proxy, I don't know. The file I
was trying to get, BTW, was
ftp://zarquon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/pub/NeXT/TeX/teTeX/teTeX-050496.NIhS.b.t
ar.gz
This is about 5Mb in size. I only got 100Kb before the transfer was droppped.
BTW, you know a feature I'd like in a browser, which I think I'll suggest to
Lighthouse? Timed ftp transfers. As in, you browse through your favorite ftp
archive as usual, but if you see a file that's too big to transfer right now, you
can specify that it should be done at a particular later time, like 3am or
something. Would this strike anyone else as being pretty darn useful?
-- Jonathan Rice
From: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tricks?
Date: 13 Mar 1996 15:42:56 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <4i6qe0$fd4@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <4hqv0i$dl@serv.hinet.net> <4hrnp7$qv5@news.tuwien.ac.at>
<4i152e$mu0@news.cs.tcd.ie>
In <4i152e$mu0@news.cs.tcd.ie> Jonathan Rice wrote:
> BTW, you know a feature I'd like in a browser, which I think I'll suggest
to
> Lighthouse? Timed ftp transfers. As in, you browse through your favorite
ftp
> archive as usual, but if you see a file that's too big to transfer right
now, you
> can specify that it should be done at a particular later time, like 3am or
> something. Would this strike anyone else as being pretty darn useful?
Now *that* would be a showstopper! And probably not *too* difficult ||
complicated to hack either (that's a rather quick guess, though). The prime
thing to make Netscapists turn livid green with envy...
But I'd be hesitant to bother Omni with a suggestion (aka nagging && more
work) like that since they've done such a wonderful job with OW 2 already
(BTW: beta 8 is the current one).
ys
Alexander Wilkie
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From: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: IRC program for NeXTSTEP?
Date: 13 Mar 1996 08:04:56 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Message-ID: <4i5vj8$l5@mo6.rc.tudelft.nl>
References: <4i22k4$elo@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>
In article <4i22k4$elo@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> nielsen_maa@ccsu.ctstateu.edu
(Mark Nielsen) writes:
>
> Does anyone know a good IRC program for NeXTSTEP? I've only found one
and it
> was the worst IRC program I've ever seen! The NeXTSTEP machines sould
have a
> great IRC program availible! Thanks for your help!
>
> DarkJedi
At ftp.peak.org (or something like that) you'll find in the
binaries/wide-area-info directory a complete running ircii application.
_____________________________________________________________________
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Department of Information Systems 2600 AJ Delft
Faculty Technical Mathematics & Informatics The Netherlands
Delft University of Technology tel: +31 15 78 5969
E-mail: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl NeXT-mail welcome
From: ras@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Robin Sahner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: looking for mailing label program
Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:01:54 GMT
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Urbana Design Center
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4i6v22$kts@courier.urbana.mcd.mot.com>
I am looking for a piece of software to print mailing labels.
I don't need anything sophisticated - just something that will read
an ascii file containing names and addresses and print onto mailing
labels. I'm running quite an old operating system on my NextStation,
so old I can't even recall the version, and I do not have a CDROM.
Can anybody give me a pointer?
Thanks,
Robin
ras@urbana.mcd.mot.com
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: 13 Mar 1996 14:48:20 GMT
Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main
Message-ID: <4i6n7k$eo@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <1996Mar5.202327.5949@nidat.sub.org> <1996Mar6.065728.17169@seer.demon.co.uk>
Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk> wrote:
> So true :-). I fully accept the importance of hyphenation for the German
> market, and also the relative significance of the German market to the
> overall NeXTSTEP market. Both are very important.
Sounds strange to me. I just had a look at some of the many English books in
my library. I didn't get hold of a single one that DOESN'T use hyphenation.
Maybe you concentrate too much on technical literature when judging this
problem? I work in the social sciences and philosophy field, and apparently
it's different there.
Or maybe you feel a word processor does not need the features necessary to
write books, anyway?
Bye
Uli
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_____________________________________________________________________
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Lorscher Strasse 5
D-60489 Frankfurt
Germany
Phone: +49 (69) 9784 0007
E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail - Mime - ASCII)
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Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
_____________________________________________________________________
From: Jonathan.Rice@tcd.ie (Jonathan Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: eps to tiff converter
Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:55:29 GMT
Organization: TCD, Computer Science
Message-ID: <4i726h$dta@news.cs.tcd.ie>
References: <4hj0j8$9if@nexus.polaris.net> <4hkouf$7iv@usenet4.interramp.com> <heberlei-0703961001210001@dissertation.cs.ucdavis.edu>
heberlei@cs.ucdavis.edu (Louis Todd Heberlein) wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> > I am looking for what I think should be VERY simple. I need to
>> > convert an EPS image to tiff format. I have used all the basic tools
>
>Stupid question on my part, but could someone write a very simple
>NEXTSTEP program to read in an EPS image into an NXImage (or whatever
>the class is), and then redirect a tiff output to a file?
>
>I would suspect it would be about 8 lines of code.
>
Yes, on NEXTSTEP this is probably very easily done by this approach. I just
thought I'd throw in the point that good old ghostscript can dump out ppm
pixmap files by appropriate selection of the "ppmraw" output device on its
command line. I can't remember the syntax offhand, but I *have* done it.
Then you could use the "pnmtotiff" filter from the PBMPLUS distribution to
convert it to a tiff. Perhaps someone has even defined a "tiffraw" device
for ghostscript so the conversion can be done in one step.
-- Jonathan Rice
Dept. Comp. Sci., Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.
From: shaffer+@pitt.edu (Charles D Shaffer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: rtf2html or rtf2LaTeX for NEXT's version of rtf?
Date: 13 Mar 1996 21:29:13 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <4i7en9$6rf@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
Hello,
Has any one hacked rtf2html or rtf2LaTeX to deal with the NEXT
specific extensions to rtf (esp. rtfd)? I need something that runs
under SunOS 4.1.3 and NEXTSTEP if possible. Sorry if this is a FAQ.
David
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: News reader
Message-ID: <1996Mar13.211334.1523@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4i3663$i7m@zeus.intellinet.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:13:34 GMT
In article <4i3663$i7m@zeus.intellinet.com> everhart@alterlife.com (Dwight
Everhart) writes:
> In <4htdr3$h6c@uuneo.neosoft.com> Robert B. Love wrote:
>
> > I've got to pipe up and remind everybody to try RadicalNews. I've
> > found the developers _very_ responsive to my suggestions. The
> > features and price ain't bad either.
>
> Yes, RadicalNews is very nice, especially its split view for threads.
>
Except that I miss Control-drag to organize the order of subscribed groups
in the list window. I'm so used to my current arrangement in NG ;-)
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | pgp, MIME, NeXTmail # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Absoft FORTRAN for NSFIP
Date: 13 Mar 1996 21:37:02 GMT
Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
Message-ID: <4i7f5u$s1q@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
Keywords: Absoft, FORTRAN, NSFIP
Hi,
As I said in a previous message, our group at work is
getting ready to purchase several Intel systems, on which
we plan to run NEXTSTEP. Some of us still use FORTRAN.
I'm looking for a FORTRAN compiler that has been ported to
NEXTSTEP on Intel (and is still available).
I know that at one time, there were (at least) 4 vendors of
FORTRAN for NS on Motorola: Oasys, Absoft, NAG (Numerical
Algorithms Group), and DIAB Data. I called each of these.
Oasys and DIAB Data do not have FORTRAN compilers for NSFIP
(only for Motorola I guess). NAG said they currently do
not, but might in the future, but could not say whether
that would be weeks, months, or years away. The number I
had for Absoft had been disconnected. This is not a good
sign, but I remain hopeful that they have simply moved or
have switched phone numbers, rather than the obvious guess
that they have gone out of business.
Does anyone know if Absoft is still in business? If so, do
they have an NSFIP version of their FORTRAN compiler? If
the answer to both of these questions is yes, then do you
have a phone number, fax number, email address, or postal
address that I can use to contact them?
Thanks in advance for your help. Bye,
Gregg Dinse
919-541-4931
dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: looking for mailing label program
Date: 13 Mar 1996 22:54:23 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4i7jmv$vc@news.iastate.edu>
References: <4i6v22$kts@courier.urbana.mcd.mot.com>
Robin Sahner writes
>
> I am looking for a piece of software to print mailing labels.
> I don't need anything sophisticated - just something that will read
> an ascii file containing names and addresses and print onto mailing
> labels. I'm running quite an old operating system on my NextStation,
> so old I can't even recall the version, and I do not have a CDROM.
> Can anybody give me a pointer?
There is Post.app, which is shareware or freeware, and can be found on the
NeXT archives.
Also, if you are willing to pay a few $, there are two excellent "address
book" applications availalbe for NeXTstep, both of which do a great job on
mailing labels.
SBook.app
StayInTouch.app
Both should be of the "download from archive, contact company for
password" variety. I have SBook (simply because it came out first and I
needed such a beast) and it is one of hte best applications on my machine.
Very very useful for all sorts of things, including mailing labels.
hope this helps --- Tom
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From: gwu@dataspec.com (George Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Viewer for multi-page TIFF files ?
Date: 13 Mar 1996 23:58:05 GMT
Organization: The Loop
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4i7ned$96f@dobie.loop.com>
Does anyone know of a multi-page TIFF file (e.g. fax) image viewer
for NEXTSTEP 3.2 ?
George
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org
Subject: Re: High quality audio recording
Message-ID: <1996Mar13.212600.16654@free.fdn.org>
Sender: news@free.fdn.org
Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant, Paris, France
References: <4i58u3$a38@news.doit.wisc.edu> <Pine.HPP.3.91.960313142948.6173C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:26:00 GMT
Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:
> You may want to try SASoundStudio, if you do not need much professional
> use. It's currently in alpha stage and developing is continued if I get
> more spare time the next month.
>
> ftp://peanuts.leo.org/next/Audio/apps/SASoundStudio*
>
> Greetings,
>
> Bernhard.
>
>
> --
> Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny)
> scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/
> scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
>
better:
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Audio/apps/SASoundStudio*
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From: Marc@AccessOne.com(Marc Salvatori)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 14 Mar 1996 02:47:14 GMT
Organization: AccessOne
Message-ID: <4i81bi$e1j@news.accessone.com>
References: <4i3663$i7m@zeus.intellinet.com> <1996Mar13.211334.1523@nidat.sub.org>
In <1996Mar13.211334.1523@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki wrote:
> In article <4i3663$i7m@zeus.intellinet.com> everhart@alterlife.com (Dwight
> Everhart) writes:
> > Yes, RadicalNews is very nice, especially its split view for threads.
> >
> Except that I miss Control-drag to organize the order of subscribed groups
> in the list window. I'm so used to my current arrangement in NG ;-)
You *can* do this with groups not sorted alphabetically.
In <4i072o$8bm@saturn.genoa.com> Alex Blakemore wrote:
> How does RNews breaks the UI guidelines?
> The (useful) page advance buttons on the scrollers? The use of color?
> I'd honestly like to know.
>
> As far as I can tell, they follow the UI guidelines pretty closely, and
the
> few minor extensions are for very good reasons and feel like natural
> extensions of the NEXTSTEP UI.
>
> I think they've done a fine job so far, and it keeps getting better.
I wholeheartedly agree. The background color gradient adds better contrast
to windows and panels; I suspect this is similar to what we might have seen
with NS User 4.0. Header, body, signature segmentation is excellent.
Threads and Articles are presented in a browser-like fashion that I like for
its intuitiveness. Newsgroup lists provide the degree of newsgroup control
I prefer. The degree of font and color scheming excedes my expectations.
As a multi-ISP user, I look foreward to their Source list implementation.
--
>< Marc J. Salvatori |
><
>< mailto:salvo@eskimo.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted
><
From: Marc@AccessOne.com(Marc Salvatori)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TopDesk Issues
Date: 14 Mar 1996 03:03:42 GMT
Organization: AccessOne
Message-ID: <4i82ae$e1j@news.accessone.com>
References: <4i33nc$60q@news.accessone.com> <4i484u$8jn@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
<4i5587$i90@usc.edu>
In <4i5587$i90@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> 2) Is there any correlation between the Sevy License Server and
instability?
I doubt it, Matthew. I believe the only role it plays is during
authentication when TopDesk starts up. On the other hand, I believe the
Sevy License design approach is incomplete in that an application, such as
TopDesk, must apparently broadcast a request for authentication, thus
pulling local DNS into the act, and triggering dial-on-demand if you use it;
this is something I would rather not have to live with. I noticed that
/etc/hosts had, in addition to "localhost", a "svyhst" alias. I doubt this
played any part since my registration indicated that localhost owned the
key.
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>< Marc J. Salvatori |
><
>< mailto:salvo@eskimo.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted
><
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TopDesk Issues
Date: 13 Mar 1996 14:26:47 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <4i6lv7$27j@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
References: <4i33nc$60q@news.accessone.com> <4i484u$8jn@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
<4i5587$i90@usc.edu>
In <4i5587$i90@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
: 1) There's VirtDesk or something like that which you can find at OpenSource
Do you have a ftp or url?
: 2) Is there any correlation between the Sevy License Server and instability?
That might be. But without License Server, no TopDesk. So it doesn't really
matter.
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: 14 Mar 1996 04:55:24 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4i88rs$s2k@news4.digex.net>
References: <1996Mar5.202327.5949@nidat.sub.org> <4hsthd$i9f@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1996Mar11.103744.46122@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <4i5iun$1k8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) wrote:
> A year ago I installed LaTeX and tried it out. I'd still rather drag and
drop figures and equations and click on them to edit them in the original
application (Thanks to OOE) and actually see what I am getting as I type.
So far, OpenWrite, while quirky, and even buggy in some instances, has
exceeded my expectations in coping with a "Book" document. I never expected
it to generate a TOC that needed less work afterwards than if I had
generated it in MS-Word (and I work extensively with MS-Word).
> While OW's output is decent, TeX's output is unbeatable.
> BTW, I put up a copy of my demo dissertation on my ftp server:
ftp://libra.caup.umich.edu/pub/next/documents/Dissertation.openbook.ta r.gz
> Check it out, you might need to Autonumber once to get things right.
Hmm, does OW2 do TOAuthorities? I could really use that, but right now
Word is all that does it! Even Frame3.2 under NS doesn't do Legal
citations (sigh) :(
Take care.
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
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From: gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de (Gerald Wildgruber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Date: 14 Mar 1996 09:02:38 +0100
Organization: Apatheia Corp.
Sender: gewil@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <x7bum0drvl.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
In-reply-to: "Timothy J. Luoma"'s message of Mon, 11 Mar 1996 15:29:13 -0500
To: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311152719.10579C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
My apologies for asking an old question, but I can't seem to find the answer.
What is the best/easiest way to break up large files? Specifically
.tar.gz files.
I tried to use the GNU split command, but I couldn't seem to get it to
break them up as I wanted them (1.3 meg chunks).
Anyone use the gsplit command often enough to know what I'm trying to do?
I don't know about gsplit, but there is a very useful little script for
this task which always worked fine for me, referred to as "low level file
butchery" in "Unix Power Tools" (ORA), page 660:
If you need to split a non text file and don't feel like going to all
the trouble of finding a split clone that handles them, one standard
UNIX tools you can use to do the splitting is dd. For example, if
_bigfile_ is a non-text file and you wanted to split it into
20000-byte pieces, you could do somethimng like this:
$ for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 .....
> do
> dd of=x$i bs=20000 count=1 2>/dev/null
> done < bigfile
The resulting files x1 through xn all have the size of 20k, except the last
one containing the remainder. I can than cat them to reproduce the former
big file.
Gerald
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From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Mail.app 3.3 weirdness!
Date: 14 Mar 1996 07:03:00 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Message-ID: <4i8gb4$37r@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I was relieved to find, after two years of intermittent but disturbing
flakiness in the old Mail.app (corrupted button graphics, disappearing
sliders, crashing windows, and all sorts of things that should never
happen to a NEXTSTEP app, much less one of theirs!), that the new
Mail.app that shipped with NS 3.3 seems solid as a rock, in addition
to having many useful new features and flourishes.
Well, almost solid. I've just noticed some unbelievably weird
behavior, involving subtle mailbox corruption, and dating back for
months to when I first upgraded to 3.3. Here is the symptom. I
use an awk script to append a different random signature to each
of my outgoing letters, and the typical signature looks something
like this (-- and ++ have been added as terminators):
--
The first cup of coffee |=====================================================
recapitulates phylogeny. | Joshua W Burton (708)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu
-- K. Ruskin |=====================================================
++
In my saved outgoing mail, it looks _fine_ when I look at it with Mail.app,
but if I look directly at the underlying mbox file with Edit, I see that
what is actually stored is:
--
The first cup of coffee =
|=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
recapitulates phylogeny. | Joshua W Burton (708)677-3902 =
jburton@nwu.edu
-- K. Ruskin =
|=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D
++
If I grep for '=3D' in my mailboxes, I find to my horror that this has
happened to about one out of twenty outgoing letters, for months. The
other nineteen out of twenty look just the same when viewed in either app.
It gets weirder. If I change the mbox so that it looks like the original
signature, and then open it in Mail.app, I find that it now looks something
like this (I think this may be eaten by the newsfeed, but we'll see):
--
The first cup of coffee |recapitulates phylogeny. | Joshua W
Burton (708)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu
-- K. Ruskin |
++
If those high-bit glyphs were scrambled, they look like o-tilde from here.
Anyway, to summarize:
(1) Most outgoing signatures, with long lines of ===='s, are fine when
viewed in Mail.app or as flatfiles.
(2) About one out of twenty is corrupted as a flatfile by =3D=3D=3D=3D
garbage, but looks normal in Mail.app
(3) Fixing these broken ones in the flatfiles makes them look corrupted
in a different way (high-bit glyphs) when viewed in Mail.app
(4) There is no discernable difference (as seen in the flatfiles, even
when examined byte-by-byte) between signatures of type (1) and ones
that are corrupted in the (2)/(3) fashion. If there is any sort
of deterministic cause, it must lie elsewhere than in the mboxes
themselves---corrupted indices, perhaps??
Anyway, I am at a total loss to explain this, and as I keep old email
in perpetuity I would prefer to get to the bottom of it as quickly as
possible---wholesale data corruption terrifies me. Does anyone have the
most wild-eyed clue as to what might be going on?
``Bosnia is free at |=========================================================
last!'' said Tomasz | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu
acerbically. |=========================================================
From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Absoft FORTRAN for NSFIP
Date: 14 Mar 1996 07:29:49 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <4i8htd$5f0@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
References: <4i7f5u$s1q@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
Gregg E. Dinse (dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov) wrote:
> As I said in a previous message, our group at work is
> getting ready to purchase several Intel systems, on which
> we plan to run NEXTSTEP. Some of us still use FORTRAN.
If you don't mind that there is no object-oriented part to it, both f2c and
gf77 run well on NeXTstep intel (and black). Both are only fortran 77, with a
few extension, but definitely not f90. For the gnu compiler you'll need to
get the latest greatest gcc as well, f2c runs out of its box.
--
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Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics, Leiden University
email: gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl
web: http://rulgm4.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TopDesk Issues
Date: 14 Mar 1996 08:12:24 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-j-47.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4i8kd8$s6n@usc.edu>
References: <4i33nc$60q@news.accessone.com> <4i484u$8jn@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
<4i5587$i90@usc.edu> <4i6lv7$27j@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
In <4i6lv7$27j@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Juergen Grieb wrote:
> In <4i5587$i90@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> : 1) There's VirtDesk or something like that which you can find at
OpenSource
It's called VirtSpace, and it's at:
http://www.opensource.com/Software/Utilities/
> : 2) Is there any correlation between the Sevy License Server and
instability?
> That might be. But without License Server, no TopDesk. So it doesn't really
> matter.
Actually, I think I number of other apps use the Sevy License Server, such as
PixelMagician.
--
Be well,
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From: Sebastian Bauer <bauer>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Absoft FORTRAN for NSFIP
Date: 14 Mar 1996 12:23:48 GMT
Organization: Institute B for Mechanics, TU Muenchen, GERMANY
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4i934k$68s@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <4i7f5u$s1q@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> <4i8htd$5f0@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>If you don't mind that there is no object-oriented part to it, both f2c and
>gf77 run well on NeXTstep intel (and black). Both are only fortran 77, with a
>few extension, but definitely not f90. For the gnu compiler you'll need to
>get the latest greatest gcc as well, f2c runs out of its box.
>
>--
>G.J. van Oldenborgh
I have installed g77 on my NeXTstation, and it runs without any problems
(as an engineer, I rely on FORTRAN havily!). You need the latest gcc
only for installation. Later on you can throw it away, and link the
FORTRAN object files together with object files made by the NeXT Objective
C compiler (which is an earlier version of gcc with special extensions).
You can debug programs compiled by g77 with the original NeXT gdb debugger.
Since the NeXT-developer software bases on the gnu-compiler, the
installation of g77 is easy --- you just need some hours until everything
is compiled.
Sebastian
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From: Jim_Brownfield@Radical.Com (Jim Brownfield)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: 14 Mar 1996 07:15:51 GMT
Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4i8h37$763@radical1.radical.com>
References: <4i3663$i7m@zeus.intellinet.com> <1996Mar13.211334.1523@nidat.sub.org>
In <1996Mar13.211334.1523@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki wrote:
> In article <4i3663$i7m@zeus.intellinet.com> everhart@alterlife.com (Dwight
> Everhart) writes:
> > In <4htdr3$h6c@uuneo.neosoft.com> Robert B. Love wrote:
> >
> > > I've got to pipe up and remind everybody to try RadicalNews. I've
> > > found the developers _very_ responsive to my suggestions. The features
> > > and price ain't bad either.
> >
> > Yes, RadicalNews is very nice, especially its split view for threads.
> >
> Except that I miss Control-drag to organize the order of subscribed groups
> in the list window. I'm so used to my current arrangement in NG ;-)
[Peter -- I tried to email your address, but it bounced]
Because we had a tremendous number of requests for this feature (actually, it
was more like a tremendous number of beatings over the head for originally
leaving the feature out ;-) ), we added customizable group ordering in 0.8
beta (at least I think it was 0.8, but I'm only the president -- what the
hell do I know ;-)) To arrange your groups in RadicalNews, do the following:
1. Enter the "News Sources" preferences
2. Click on any news group list *except* "Available" or "New Groups" (we
don't allow you to reorder thoses groups)
3. Uncheck the "Sort Alphabetically" check box
4. You can then Control-drag your group entries (including groups in
your subscribed list)
Hope this helps!
Also, I'd like to thank the other guys for the kind words!
Take care.
--
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From: psi@felicia.fortune.nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki)
Subject: Re: Perl 4.036 and NeXT Mach
Message-ID: <Do99IA.3B7@nest.or.jp>
Sender: psi@nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki)
References: <3145BB93.6820@csdesigns.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 11:34:58 GMT
In <3145BB93.6820@csdesigns.com> Alex Horovitz wrote:
> Has anyone out there managed to get the gnu perl-4.036 to compile on
> a black box running NS 3.3 User&Dev? If someone knows of a perl
> binary that will run on th NeXT mach please let me know.
I used Perl 4.036 on my Cube turbo with NS 3.3J User & Dev.
# Currently, I use Perl 5.001.
Perl 4.036 is easy to compile, and Perl4.036 Package is exist in
Starter Kit for the Internet NEXTSTEP.
--
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Psi@fortune.nest.or.jp
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Subject: Re: rfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
Message-ID: <Do9Fr1.17n@hurka.UUCP>
Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka)
Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.)
References: <4hp1un$kdi@gina.zfn.uni-bremen.de>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:49:49 GMT
In article <4hp1un$kdi@gina.zfn.uni-bremen.de>
next0@informatik.uni-bremen.de (Peer-Olaf Sack) writes:
> Win95-Defrag crashed my system. After reboot the hardware-manager
> shows two more drives (D: and E: but they are unaccesable).
> The bad thing is, that on this drives my NeXTStep is intalled.
>
> So, when I boot NeXTStep it ended with
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> sd0a: Read attempt with no valid label vfs_mountroot: error=5
> panic: (cpu0) rfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> The only possible thing now is to reboot.
>
> The kernel and drivers are still loaded from my hard-disk, so
> the files may be still intact. I guess, only the partition-table
> is damaged.
From you wrote I had the same feeling. It looks to me that the defrag
changed the partition type from NeXTSTEP to DOS. Try to run DOS fdisk and
change the partition type for that extra drives (D:,E:) back to NeXTSTEP.
The NeXTSTEP partition uses 0xa7 as the partition type identification.
I hope it helps you.
Best regards,
--
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz
NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bz@eznet.net (Bill Zell)
Subject: wais server
Message-ID: <Do7su3.GJ5@nols.edu>
Sender: usenet@nols.edu
Organization: National Outdoor Leadership School
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 16:37:14 GMT
I am trying to find a wais server binary for nextstep 3.3 (Motorola). I
downloaded swish and have wais.pl cgi but i can't find freewais as a
binary. Anyone have a wais search engine running that could give me a few
pointers as to where i should look.
thanks
bill zell
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Date: 14 Mar 1996 16:05:40 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4i9g4k$eda@news.its.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311152719.10579C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> What is the best/easiest way to break up large files? Specifically
> .tar.gz files.
GNU split.
> I tried to use the GNU split command, but I couldn't seem to get it to
> break them up as I wanted them (1.3 meg chunks).
>
> Anyone use the gsplit command often enough to know what I'm trying to do?
gsplit -b 1300k _file.tar.gz_ /tmp/part
C'mon, Tim-- GNU split has both a thorough manpage and it responds to --help.
RTFM a little.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: cmsg cancel <4i7osj$g56@news.vanderbilt.edu>
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Date: 14 Mar 1996 17:13:51 GMT
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 10:03:43 -0700
From: mishelle@thoughtful.com (Mishelle Baun)
Message-ID: <9603141703.AA03596@thoughtful.com>
Subject: Re: looking for mailing label program
Cc: doug@thoughtful.com
Robin Sahner writes
>
> I am looking for a piece of software to print mailing labels.
> I don't need anything sophisticated - just something that will read
> an ascii file containing names and addresses and print onto mailing
> labels. I'm running quite an old operating system on my
NextStation,
> so old I can't even recall the version, and I do not have a CDROM.
> Can anybody give me a pointer?
Robin,
HyperSense, Thoughtful Software's multimedia authoring program, can
be used to create mailing labels. This can be done from ascii text
files or with our on-line address book.
Addresses.sense is a HyperSense address book document which can be
used to maintain a list of names and addresses. The address book is
included along with the latest version of the HyperSensePlayer
application, which is available with a FREE single-user license.
The address book application includes features for searching,
sorting, and marking selected pages, as well as a report template
which will print mailing labels on standard label forms in a laser
printer. A separate HyperSense utility (DataCopier.sense) provides
an automated approach to transferring data between HyperSense
documents and flat ASCII text file formats.
Free Developer Licenses Available!
Of course, self-adhesive labels come in many shapes and sizes. If
the labels you buy are in a different format than the one supported,
just contact Thoughtful Software for a free temporary license to use
the full developer version of HyperSense. Using the full application
you will have access to the Report Layout panel which makes it easy
to change the size and layout of the label format, or to create
additional formats as needed.
The HyperSensePlayer comes with a FREE single-user license, and many
FREE sample documents, including Addresses.sense, DataCopier.sense,
and many other useful utilities such as ParagraphStore.sense (for
managing reusable paragraphs), DDM.sense (user-friendly Defaults
Database Manager application), HyperCalc.sense (innovative calculator
that lets you type arithmetic expressions directly into its display),
ListMaker.sense (a tool for creating and searching lists of items.
It includes a list of Area Codes and International telephone dialing
codes.) and PasteMaster.sense (multiple-item pasteboard utility).
-=-=-
The package is available by ftp at the address shown below, or can be
ordered from Thoughtful Software for $10 to cover media and shipping
costs. (We accept MasterCard/Visa, and personal checks.) The
HyperSense developer version is available for a very limited time at
30% off the regular price. Contact info@thoughtful.com for details.
(This may still be in the submissions directory.)
HyperSensePlayer (including Free single-user license and sample
documents):
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/HyperSense/HyperSenseREADME1.00B14a.r
tfd.compressed
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/HyperSense/HyperSensePlayer.pkg.1.00B
14a.NIHS.b.tar
HyperSense (full development version and documentation):
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/HyperSense/HyperSenseApp.pkg.1.00B14a
.NIHS.b.tar
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/HyperSense/HyperSenseDocs.pkg.1.00B14
a.tar
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 21:01:58 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
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References: <4i6n7k$eo@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
In article <4i6n7k$eo@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) writes:
> Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk> wrote:
> > So true :-). I fully accept the importance of hyphenation for the
German
> > market, and also the relative significance of the German market to the
> > overall NeXTSTEP market. Both are very important.
>
> Sounds strange to me. I just had a look at some of the many English
books in
> my library. I didn't get hold of a single one that DOESN'T use
hyphenation.
>
> Maybe you concentrate too much on technical literature when judging this
> problem? I work in the social sciences and philosophy field, and
apparently
> it's different there.
>
> Or maybe you feel a word processor does not need the features necessary
to
> write books, anyway?
I think we are suffering from many obsessive German NeXTSTEP users :-).
At least it makes a change from having too much American bias.
All I can really do is reiterate: I don't use hyphenation, and of the
commercial users of NeXTSTEP I have dealt with, none have requested or
shown any interest in hyphenation. English spell checking, yes, but not
hyphenation. My focus is on commercial users, not scientific.
And yes, since you ask: a word processor does not need features required
to write books. Some potential purchasers of a word processor may want to
use it to write books, but they are a very small fraction of the market.
And let me offer my congratulations to D'ART for fixing the problem for
you.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: purdys7@aol.com (Purdys7)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wanted: NextStep Developer -- NYC area
Date: 15 Mar 1996 01:09:09 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
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NextStep developer/sys admin wanted: NY metro area. 2-4 month assignment
with opportunity for full-time position. Experience with C, Objective C,
EOF, and QuickBase required. Exciting applications. Reply to us, the
employer, directly at purdys7@aol.com (we are not a recruiter or agency).
From: gvandyk@icon.co.za
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fixed Pitch Font
Date: 15 Mar 1996 07:30:38 GMT
Organization: No organisation supplied
Message-ID: <4ib6au$pl3@hermes.is.co.za>
I need a fixed pitch font for report writing. The Courier font is not
the nicest font around. The Ohlfs font is what i want but there are no
Ohlfs-bold or Ohlfs-italic. Does anyone know of a decent fixed pitch
font that a can use that has bold and italic features? I must use a
fixed pitch font in my report as the letters must align vertically in
certain areas.
Any help would be appreciated.
--
Regards,
Gerrit van Dyk
email: gvandyk@icon.co.za (NeXTMail welcome)
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From: wgaboria@iut-lr.univ-lr.fr (wilfrid Gaboriaud)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: quotas manager for NeXT ?
Date: 15 Mar 1996 15:39:22 GMT
Organization: Universite de La Rochelle
Message-ID: <4ic2va$m4b@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr>
Is there a quota manager for Nextstep ?
(to limit disk space per user)
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From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GNU C and FORTRAN compilers
Date: 15 Mar 1996 16:14:12 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ic50k$gkg@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
Where can I get the latest versions of the GNU C and FORTRAN
compilers (gcc and gf77)?
Jim
From: abid@solaria.com (Abid Khwaja)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: XModem for NeXT
Date: 15 Mar 1996 18:54:30 GMT
Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc.
Message-ID: <4iced6$j3@chinx4.thoughtport.net>
Keywords: xmodem next protocol
Does anyone know of an XModem implementation for NeXT and/or UNIX and where
to get it?
--
Abid Khwaja _/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/
America Online _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
Internet email Administration _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/
Pencom Systems Administration _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
abid@psa.pencom.com _/ _/_/ _/ _/
abid@solaria.com
From: buzz9@ix.netcom.com(buzz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Should I migrate to NeXT?
Date: 15 Mar 1996 19:13:01 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <4icfft$lle@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
Hi
I'm considering changeing fron UnixWare to Next. I can not get a
demo from company and am looking for someone who will talk to me about
the Next system, it's alot of money and they have no moneyback program
like some others. I need to know what I'm getting into and how many
products I'll need to use.
Sincerely Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu
Subject: CubX-Window vs Co-Xist
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Organization: Washington State University
I plan to purchase one of the commercial X-window packages available, either
CubX-Window or co-Xist. If price is no object, which one is the best
implementation to run on an x86 system.
Thanks
Wayne Joerding
Professor of Economics Ofc: 509-335-6468
Washington State University email: joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu
Pullman WA 99164
From: bmont@rconnect.com (Bruce Montegani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Alexandra .82
Date: 15 Mar 1996 20:48:10 GMT
Organization: Minnesota Regional Network (MRNet)
Message-ID: <4icl2a$ub@news.mr.net>
I just starting using this product recently. I really like it but I have a
small problem. I am connected to a NNTP server but when I open the server it
takes at least five minutes to load the newsgroups. After all the newsgroups
are loaded evrything moves along just fine. Is there any way to speed up this
process???
Bruce Montegani
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From: robert@amo.mit.edu(Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Source for StopWatch.app
Date: 16 Mar 1996 00:22:58 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4id1l2$ljn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi.
Could somebody point me towards the source for StopWatch.app?
The info panel describes it as gnuware, with source available, but
I can't find it on the archive sites.
Thanks,
Robert
--
Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
---- NeXTmail always welcome ----
From: vbragin@uranus.calstatela.edu (Victoria Bragin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Info on VisChem Molecule Studio wanted
Date: 16 Mar 1996 02:59:19 GMT
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <4idaq7$gju@nuke.csu.net>
I have been trying to contact Global Software which is listed
as the developer of "VisChem Molecule Studio", a molecular
modelling software. I sent an e-mail message to globesoft.com
but I did not get any reply. The demo application lists both
Washington, D.C., and Berlin as locations of their headquarters.
I would appreciate any info on this ... or on any molecular
modelling software that may be available for NEXTSTEP.
Thanks.
Vicki Bragin
From: 96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu (Rich Markle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need 3.2 User BootDisks!!!
Date: 16 Mar 1996 03:22:02 GMT
Organization: University of Redlands
Message-ID: <4idc4q$49p@galaxy.ucr.edu>
Hi. I have NS3.2 (Black) User but my bootdisks have crapped out.
I have the cd to reinstall the OS, but no way to get it up do it. Any
help anyone could give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance...
96rmarkl@ultrix.uor.edu
From: Vera Rosta-Fukuda <rosta-fukuda@ping.ch>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT and tcpdump
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 00:10:00 +0100
Organization: Ping Net Sarl, Lausanne, Switzerland
Message-ID: <3144B2C8.22BB@ping.ch>
References: <4gl4g3$nao@news-2.csn.net> <DnDpvH.Csw@cam-ani.co.uk>
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Takeshi Yanagisawa 2706 wrote:
> =
> In article <4gstmg$vh3@msunews.cl.msu.edu> perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J=
=2E Perkins) writes:
> =
> > Also, Satoshi Adachi <adachi@wisdom.ap.titech.ac.jp> has a working ver=
sion
> > of BPF/TCPDUMP that runs with an ethernet interface. I don't know wher=
e the
> > thing is stored but I have a copy
> =
> They can be found at:
> ftp://ftp.aa.ap.titech.ac.jp/pub/adachi/bpf_NeXT/bpf_NeXT-0.25-beta.tar.g=
z
> =
> They work on both Black NeXT and Intel.
> (On Intel machine, there are some problems but they work well on
> practical level. Please read the documents included, otherwise contact
> with S. Adachi via e-mail.)
> =
> --
> Takeshi Yanagisawa ($BLxBt(J $B9d(J) <yanagisw@o.cc.titech.ac.jp>
> =
> Dept. of Applied Physics, Tokyo Institute of Technology,
> Meguro-ku, Tokyo 152, Japan
I downloaded bpf_NeXT-0.25-beta2.tar.gz and I successfully compiled bpf, tc=
pdump and
cap under Black NS3.3J. I am not a UNIX expert at all, but with all the in=
structions
given by Adachi and the developers of bpf, cap, tcpdump etc, I could instal=
l them
correctly. Frankly it was not too easy (it took me a couple of days),
but I suppose anyone with some UNIX experience can do if he/she is ready to=
go through
all readme and install documentations, and has access to some include files=
such as /usr/include/mach/features.h which were in NS3.0 but not in NS3.2, =
NS3.3. =
Now I can see my NeXT file system from a Mac via AppleShare. I can also te=
lnet
from Mac to NeXT via ethertalk. This is particularly convenient because I =
use MacTCP
for PPP conection to internet. I thank all the people who made and/or patch=
ed =
these very useful programs.
Just one question. How can one print documents from Mac to NeXT Laser Prin=
ter?
There is an Apple LaserWriter spooler (lwsrv) implemented by cap but I have=
not
found anything for NeXT Printer. Did someone succeed to do it?
Komei Fukuda =
Institut fur Operations Research =
ETH Zentrum, CH-8092 Zurich, Switzerland =
fax +41-1-632 1025 tel +41-1-632 4023 or 4028 =
email:fukuda@ifor.math.ethz.ch
homepage: http://www.ifor.math.ethz.ch/staff/fukuda/fukuda.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stes@cwi.nl (David Stes)
Subject: Re: Wo gibt es Maple fr NS (Intel)
Message-ID: <DoD4H6.HC8@cwi.nl>
Sender: news@cwi.nl (The Daily Dross)
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam
References: <4i48tb$8kh@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:36:42 GMT
In article <4i48tb$8kh@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de> juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de writes:
>Ich bin auf der Suche nach Maple fr NS (Intel).
>Wo kann ich das in Deutschland bekommen (vielleicht will ja jemand sein
>gebrauchtes verkaufen)? Auf der Homepage (http://www.maplesoft.com) gab es
>einen Verweis auf die Firma Scientific Computers (http://www.scientific.de) hier
>in Deutschland. Als ich dort per Mail nachfragen wollte, kam diese mit dem
>Vermerk 'unknown Host' zurck.
>
>Wo kann ich also an eine (mglichst billige) Version von Maple rankommen?
>
Hi,
you might want to check out the CAN web : http://www.can.nl
I don't think however that Maple ever got ported to Intel; they had a version
for NextStep2.1 on the NeXT. However, I can say that you can work with
the X-windows version , running on a remote computer, using Cub'X on NS3.2.
(because I did do that from time to time)
David Stes.
PS: I just checked the site, and yes, MapleV,2 is available for NeXT, but
MapleV,3 was never ported to NextStep it seems; you could install Linux on
your machine !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: skey for NeXT Mach?
From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay)
Date: 16 Mar 96 12:55:58 GMT
Message-ID: <1749675.46558.15687@kcbbs.gen.nz>
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
Has anybody managed to compile skey for NeXTSTEP and have it execute and
finally give the right response?
I tried 3 sets of sources and all return two words in the string as
opposed to the 6 necessary...argh!
Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tricks?
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:45:59 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960314104320.11363I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4hqv0i$dl@serv.hinet.net> <4hrnp7$qv5@news.tuwien.ac.at>
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On 13 Mar 1996, Alexander Wilkie wrote:
> In <4i152e$mu0@news.cs.tcd.ie> Jonathan Rice wrote:
> > BTW, you know a feature I'd like in a browser, which I think I'll suggest
> to Lighthouse? Timed ftp transfers. As in, you browse through your favorite
> ftp archive as usual, but if you see a file that's too big to transfer right
> now, you can specify that it should be done at a particular later time, like 3am or
> > something. Would this strike anyone else as being pretty darn useful?
>
> Now *that* would be a showstopper! And probably not *too* difficult ||
> complicated to hack either (that's a rather quick guess, though). The prime
> thing to make Netscapists turn livid green with envy...
> But I'd be hesitant to bother Omni with a suggestion (aka nagging && more
> work) like that since they've done such a wonderful job with OW 2 already
> (BTW: beta 8 is the current one).
This would be a great addition to any ftp browser.
For the interim, using a one line 'at' command using 'ncftp' with the URL
is a nice way to do this.
I think this should be an eventual feature of GUI ftp software.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info Available via email on: PPP under NeXTStep, swapfiles,
swapdisks, hidden dwrites, NeXTStep tricks and shortcuts, NeXTStep FAQ,
and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tricks?
Date: 15 Mar 1996 14:55:20 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <4ic0co$7av@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
References: <4hqv0i$dl@serv.hinet.net> <4hrnp7$qv5@news.tuwien.ac.at>
<4i152e$mu0@news.cs.tcd.ie>
In <4i152e$mu0@news.cs.tcd.ie> Jonathan Rice wrote:
: Well, I've had quite a few FTP problems with OmniWeb beta-6, the latest not
ten
: minutes ago. When transferring large files from slow sites (I wish I didn't
have
: to do this, but it happens), my setup has just dropped the transfer on
several
: occasions. Now, I *am* working via a proxy server, so maybe it's an
interaction
: there, or maybe it's completely the fault of the proxy, I don't know. The
file I
That still happens in the beta-8. And it occurs not only with slow sites.
There seems to be also another problem with the ftp in OmniWeb. I sometimes get
diffrent directory contents when I acces them via Omni compared to 'normal' ftp
under Unix. Any idea?
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
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From: tm8025a@american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: Mail.app 3.3 weirdness!
Date: 16 Mar 1996 19:06:22 GMT
Organization: American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <4if3fe$sq5@paladin.american.edu>
References: <4i8gb4$37r@news.acns.nwu.edu>
In <4i8gb4$37r@news.acns.nwu.edu> Joshua W. Burton wrote:
> (1) Most outgoing signatures, with long lines of ===='s, are fine when
> viewed in Mail.app or as flatfiles.
>
> (2) About one out of twenty is corrupted as a flatfile by =3D=3D=3D=3D
> garbage, but looks normal in Mail.app
>
> (3) Fixing these broken ones in the flatfiles makes them look corrupted
> in a different way (high-bit glyphs) when viewed in Mail.app
>
> (4) There is no discernable difference (as seen in the flatfiles, even
> when examined byte-by-byte) between signatures of type (1) and ones
> that are corrupted in the (2)/(3) fashion. If there is any sort
> of deterministic cause, it must lie elsewhere than in the mboxes
> themselves---corrupted indices, perhaps??
>
> Anyway, I am at a total loss to explain this, and as I keep old email
> in perpetuity I would prefer to get to the bottom of it as quickly as
> possible---wholesale data corruption terrifies me. Does anyone have the
> most wild-eyed clue as to what might be going on?
>
Well it looks to me like its a MIME thing. MIME mail replaces the standard
"=" with "=3D". Probably an escape sequence of some sort. When you view it
in Mail.app, that has a small MIME problem anyway, it comes up normal because
it knows the difference.
I wouldn't worry about it unless someone complains about it.
--
Torrey McMahon
American University School of Communication
System Administrator, WebMaster, and Security Consultant
NeXT, MIME, and ASCII PGP and CyptorBundle
PGP Key available via finger and home page. Check the headers for both.
From: doyle@zeke.lanl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: skey for NeXT Mach?
Date: 17 Mar 1996 00:43:37 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Message-ID: <4ifn7p$cc6@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <1749675.46558.15687@kcbbs.gen.nz>
apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay) wrote:
> Has anybody managed to compile skey for NeXTSTEP and have it execute and
> finally give the right response?
>
> I tried 3 sets of sources and all return two words in the string as
> opposed to the 6 necessary...argh!
I put my NeXTSTEP skey source on our ftp server. It is available
via anonymous ftp at ftp://xxx.lanl.gov/pub/skey as skey-NeXT.tar.gz .
Included is a TickleService that allows you to highlight the challenge
and hit cmd K and then paste the response into the Response: prompt.
Also is a version of /bin/login that allows only skey logins and a
version of key that won't accept -p or run over the network to
discourage users from sending their passwords as clear text.
Directions of installing login, su, etc. are included. I haven't done
anything with the ftp source and also included is an md5 source that is
broken at the moment, so don't use it.
Cheers,
Mark
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fixed Pitch Font
Date: 17 Mar 1996 02:01:49 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ifrqd$3g5@news.its.com>
References: <4ib6au$pl3@hermes.is.co.za>
gvandyk@icon.co.za wrote:
> I need a fixed pitch font for report writing. The Courier font is not
> the nicest font around. The Ohlfs font is what i want but there are no
> Ohlfs-bold or Ohlfs-italic.
Ohlfs actually is Courier, believe it or not. The only reason it looks
different from Courier on your computer screen is because Keith Ohlfs
hand-tuned the bitmaps at screen resolutions for a different look; the
mathematical font outlines used to draw the fonts (in the abscence of a
bitmap specificly at that resolution) are the same.
> Does anyone know of a decent fixed pitch font that a can use that has
> bold and italic features? I must use a fixed pitch font in my report as
> the letters must align vertically in certain areas.
You can purchase PostScript fonts from Adobe. Talk to them....
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Alexandria 0.82
Date: 17 Mar 1996 04:45:03 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ig5cf$6l@dropit.pgh.net>
I upgraded to this version and I find it to be significantly faster
loading the initial group data and individual items.
Bob
-----
Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883
me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC for Windows on a Cube -- Help!!
Date: 17 Mar 1996 04:50:02 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ig5lq$6l@dropit.pgh.net>
References: <1996Feb25.153647.9700@investor.pgh.pa.us> <4i1mne$7vv@photon.ON-Luebeck.DE>
ukoch@on-luebeck.de (Uwe Koch) wrote:
>
> problems with Windows ?
> It may be a hint - you should not use that.
>
> I had a similar problem with this SoftPC- on NeXT Cube , Windows
was
> running ok after minimize the window size just a little bit. So I
get
> it always for the second start ( after resize).
It turns out there is a bug in Windows. Insignia has a fix on their
server (either ftp.insignia.com or insignia.com - I forget). I got
it and it solved the problem. Windows now works bettr than DOS. In
DOS you sometimes lose the mouse!!
-----
Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883
me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wo gibt es Maple f
Date: 16 Mar 1996 17:17:14 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <4iet2q$as3@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
References: <4i48tb$8kh@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de> <DoD4H6.HC8@cwi.nl>
In <DoD4H6.HC8@cwi.nl> David Stes wrote:
: PS: I just checked the site, and yes, MapleV,2 is available for NeXT, but
: MapleV,3 was never ported to NextStep it seems; you could install Linux on
: your machine !
:
:
I think I would rather use the windows version instead, because I don't have
linux.
Thanks anyway.
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
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From: fflak@aurora.alaska.edu (KELLY ALONZO H)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: eps to tiff converter
Date: 16 Mar 1996 17:05:56 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4iesdk$m9b@news.alaska.edu>
References: <4i1qa2$4b7@miwok.nbn.com> <4i6e11$bub@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
Helmut Heller (heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de) wrote:
: In article <4i1qa2$4b7@miwok.nbn.com> john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox) writes:
: > I> There is a command-line epstotiff somewhere. I used to use
: When you run that program, you will see that the tiff is still
: 72DPI, but you can use scale to actually have as many pixels as you want.
Fix this with tiffres, README follows:
TIFFRES -- Tiff Resolution Tag Utility
(c) Peter Langston <psl@acm.org> 2/95
Version 1.2 6/15/95
Tiffres is a utility to inspect and/or set the values of the X & Y resolution
tags in TIFF files. I wrote it out of frustration with programs that
mis-encode specified resolutions (e.g. Icon, Pixelist ... oh, hi Keith).
Usage: tiffres [-r[=#.#]] [-v] [-x[=#.#]] [-y[=#.#]] tiff-file [...]
-r prints the current x & y resolutions.
-r=400 sets both the x & y resolutions to 400 dpi.
-v verbose output.
-x prints the current x resolution.
-y prints the current y resolution.
-x=12.3 sets the x resolution to 12.3 dpi.
-y=300 sets the y resolution to 300 dpi.
The exit status is a count of errors.
The file "tiffres.tar.gz" is a gzipped tar archive containing
the following:
Name Contents
------------ ------------------------------------------------
tiffres stripped multi-architecture binary (i386 & m68k)
tiffres.README this file
tiffres.README.FIRST a brief revision history
tiffres.c the source code
tiffres.1 man page for tiffres
******************** Legal Gobbledegook *************************************
**
** This program is freeware - you are free to use it for your own personal,
** non-commercial enjoyment. For any other use (including transfer to other
** users), you must obtain my explicit permission. This program is entirely
** free of any warranty or guarantee as to its appropriateness for any use.
** Notwithstanding any implications from its status as freeware, this
** program is still mine (MINE ALL MINE!) and I reserve all rights granted
** to me by my copyright on it.
** Peter Langston <psl@acm.org> Seattle, WA 3 June, 1995
**
** I hereby explicitly grant permission to the following FTP archive
sites to
** distribute my program tiffres without charge to any individuals
wishing to
** use it following the guidelines set out in the paragraphs above.
** ftp.cs.orst.edu
** sonata.cc.purdue.edu
** ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
** Peter Langston <psl@acm.org> Seattle, WA 3 June, 1995
**
******************** E-O-L-G ************************************************
Good luck,
Lon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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From: "Goetz Babin-Ebell" <goetzbe@marvin.allcon.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 02:00:34 +0100
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Subject: Re: OpenWrite 2.0 comments?
Message-ID: <66769075@marvin.allcon.com>
Organization: Goetz Babin-Ebell/Schleswig/Deutschland/Europa/Welt
Paul Lynch wrote in comp.sys.next.software about "Re: OpenWrite 2.0
comments?":
> All I can really do is reiterate: I don't use hyphenation, and of the
> commercial users of NeXTSTEP I have dealt with, none have requested or
> shown any interest in hyphenation. English spell checking, yes, but not
> hyphenation. My focus is on commercial users, not scientific.
What's about an interface to an external Program ?
Like:
...
if (shouldWrapThisWord)
if (HypenateProgram)
WrappedWord=
[HypenateProgram hypenate:Word until:MaxSpaceInLine separatingChar:' '];
...
HypenateProgram is an Server on the computer or in the net which
takes the Word and searches for the best fitting hypenaton.
Should be done in half a day...
By
Goetz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kasahara@empc4.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Katsuaki Kasahara)
Subject: Re: Wo gibt es Maple f NS (Intel)
Message-ID: <DoG3EE.2Hw@inssun.ins.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Sender: news@inssun.ins.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: Inst. for Nuclear Study, Univ. of Tokyo
References: <DoD4H6.HC8@cwi.nl>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 04:06:14 GMT
In article <DoD4H6.HC8@cwi.nl> stes@cwi.nl (David Stes) writes:
...
>
> Hi,
>
> you might want to check out the CAN web : http://www.can.nl
>
> I don't think however that Maple ever got ported to Intel; they had a
version
> for NextStep2.1 on the NeXT.
..
I received a reply from a reseller of Maple; they have
Next, Intel, HP versions. However, they have no plan of
updating the current version (MapleV,2) at least at present.
--
K.Kasahara
Kanagawa Univ., Yokohama, Japan
e-mail: kasahara@cpnx2.b6.kanagawa-u.ac.jp
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 18 Mar 1996 05:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4iirgu$bqa@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
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Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
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The ftp sites
=============
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(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
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ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
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=====================================
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Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: High quality audio recording
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 09:14:02 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960318091155.8901A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <4i58u3$a38@news.doit.wisc.edu> <Pine.HPP.3.91.960313142948.6173C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <1996Mar13.212600.16654@free.fdn.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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In-Reply-To: <1996Mar13.212600.16654@free.fdn.org>
On Wed, 13 Mar 1996 Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org wrote:
> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:
> >
> > ftp://peanuts.leo.org/next/Audio/apps/SASoundStudio*
> >
> better:
> ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Audio/apps/SASoundStudio*
Thanks, but the path /next will also work, but only from terminal based
ftp. It's an ftp feature of peanuts.
Greetings,
Boerny.
--
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny)
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/
scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: Paul WINDEY <windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing WriteNopw files with 3.3
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:57:43 +0100
Organization: Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (PARIS VI)
Message-ID: <314D4FB7.7FF6@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone know if it is still possible (and if yes HOW?) to print
WriteNow files with NeXTStep 3.3?
Everything seems to work fine (opening files, saving them etc) but for
printing.
Please answer also directly by mail to address below.
--
Paul Windey,
LPTHE
Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI)
Bte 126
4pl Jussieu
F-75252 Paris CEDEX 05, FRANCE
e-mail: windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr
tel: 33-1-4427 7456 (Secretariat: 4427 4121)
FAX: 33-1-4427 7088
From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ** Save OPENSTEP/HPPA **: It's on the track!
Date: 18 Mar 1996 13:34:25 GMT
Organization: GMD-FOKUS
Message-ID: <4ijop1$3id@stern.fokus.gmd.de>
Keep your fingers crossed! I've posted the petition to save OPENSTEP/HPPA to
NeXT and HP (each Europe and USA).
The final standing: ~140 people representing ~200 HP workstations have
participated. Thanks to all who responded with their signature and comments.
Keep it locked, crew!
Robert.
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fischer@fokus.gmd.de ------- (*)/ (*) ## NeXT-Mail welcome ##
Initiative for OPENSTEP/HP-PA:
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/ovma/employees/fischer/SaveOPENSTEP-HP.html
ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/incoming/petition
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From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Alexandra .82
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 09:32:11 -0500
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <jbf-1803960932110001@frazer.com>
References: <4icl2a$ub@news.mr.net>
In article <4icl2a$ub@news.mr.net>, bmont@rconnect.com (Bruce Montegani) wrote:
> I just starting using this product recently. I really like it but I have a
> small problem. I am connected to a NNTP server but when I open the server it
> takes at least five minutes to load the newsgroups. After all the newsgroups
> are loaded evrything moves along just fine. Is there any way to speed up this
> process???
Alexandra is much slower than NewsFlash in this respect. Spend $45
or recode the routines yourself based on the NewsWatcher source (it's
faster than any NS news reader.
Barney
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Wo gibt es Maple f NS (Intel)
Date: 18 Mar 1996 16:42:09 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <4ik3p1$jth@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <DoD4H6.HC8@cwi.nl> <DoG3EE.2Hw@inssun.ins.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Katsuaki Kasahara (kasahara@empc4.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp) wrote:
: I received a reply from a reseller of Maple; they have
: Next, Intel, HP versions. However, they have no plan of
: updating the current version (MapleV,2) at least at present.
Are you sure they have Maple V Rel 2 for NS/HP ? We have Rel 2 for
NS/Intel and Moto, but not for HP! I was told that Rel 3 was to
support HP, and according to rumours, Rel 3 for NS should be out now
(hmm, Waterloo's WWW site doesn't know about it yet, but it also
doesn't tell you about Rel 2 for Intel, which is definitely available
;-).
Gregor
PS: Anybody interested in a command-line version of MuPAD for
NEXTSTEP? (http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~cube/). At least with the
release of 1.3, a NEXTSTEP version shall be available. With enough
interest, we may bring out 1.2.2!
--
| Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact RhiNO |
| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 54-5771 |
| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 54-8312 |
| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail, MIME) |
From: stevemi@ix.netcom.com(Steve Michaels)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: USA-NJ: NeXT WORKSTATION SPECIALIST NEEDED
Date: 18 Mar 1996 18:45:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <4ikavk$3q4@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
TRECOM Business Systems, Inc. of Atlanta has a position immediately
available in NJ for a NeXT Workstation Specialist. MUST LIVE IN NJ.
SALARY: $45K to $52K, depending upon level of experience.
TRECOM IS NOT A HEADHUNTING FIRM OR PERSONNEL AGENCY!
TRECOM offers a competitive salary with excellent benefits to include
HMO, 401K (with rollover plan), 10 paid holidays, 6 paid personal/sick
days, 2 weeks paid vacation, tuition reimbursement assistance and more.
To apply for any of these positions, please FAX an in-depth,
chronological resume to ATTN: STEVE MICHAELS/NETCOM at 1-770-939-0310.
If you choose, you may E-mail your resume in an MS-Word format or a DOS
Text format to Steve at trecomsm@aol.com.
Should you have any questions please contact Steve Michaels at
1-800-621-0310.
From: Sebastian Niesen <sniesen@imib.rwth-aachen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Perl 4.036 and NeXT Mach
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:24:25 +0100
Organization: NaixT - The NEXTSTEP User Group Aachen
Message-ID: <314D47E9.5D2E@imib.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <3145BB93.6820@csdesigns.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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Alex Horovitz wrote:
>
> Has anyone out there managed to get the gnu perl-4.036 to compile on
> a black box running NS 3.3 User&Dev? If someone knows of a perl
> binary that will run on th NeXT mach please let me know.
>
> Graciously,
>
> Alex
Well, I recently compiled perl 5.001p1 using NS3.3 and the normal cc.
No problems with that. Even all the defaults for NS3.2 worked.
Sebastian
_______________________________________________________________________________
Sebastian Niesen sniesen@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
Student Of Computer Science sniesen@imib.rwth-aachen.de
RWTH Aachen http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~sniesen
From: zmahmood@site.gmu.edu (Zakir Mahmood (ELEN))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AVATAR help
Date: 18 Mar 1996 19:40:45 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <4ike7t$jm4@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello:
I was wondering if someone on the net has used a software package called
AVATAR by International Data Systems. It supposedly is "automated software
that can convert/re-engineer application code from any source to any new
target environment." I would like to know if anyone has used this product
and what you think of it. I would greatly appreciate it if you could
e-mail me you comments at: zmahmood@gmu.edu, or at
mahmood@usairln.usair.com
thanks
Zakir
From: mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (haZard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXTStep Compress
Date: 18 Mar 1996 20:10:45 GMT
Organization: hero productions
Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[3775]
Message-ID: <4ikg05$i7t@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.
hi,
i compressed folders individually using the compress utility from the
NeXT Browser. now i would like to uncompress those files from a shell.
(i have to use a shell because i'm off-site.) using "uncompress
folder_name.compressed" fails and returns the message
"file_name.compressed.Z: No such file or directory".
does anyone know the secret recipe to uncompress files from the shell
which NeXTStep compressed? as you might guess, this is pretty
important for me, so i would really appreciate your help or your
suggestions.
thanks alot!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
brendan mcdougall "...only those the snake has bitten
physics dept can tell each other how it feels."
brandeis university --The King Must Die, Mary Renault
From: svail@regression.next.com (Scott Vail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Stuart for NS Intel?
Date: 17 Mar 1996 23:49:28 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ii8e8$a6@news.next.com>
References: <960306060728.817AABqE.jmm@reid.econ.lsa.umich.edu>
In article <960306060728.817AABqE.jmm@reid.econ.lsa.umich.edu>
jmm@umich.edu writes:
>
> Is the shareware Stuart terminal program available for the Intel
platform?
> in next-ftp.peak.org I found only a binary compiled for black
hardware...
>
> jmm@umich.edu
Why not get it from the source: 8^)
http://www.winternet.com/~shess/
--Scott
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Macintosh networking and NEXTSTEP
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:56:42 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <314DF83A.6EB3@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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It's still available folks! It's NEXTSTEP 3.3 compatible too.
Macintosh networking and NEXTSTEP
Q: I want to network a machine running NEXTSTEP to a Macintosh or Macintosh network.
What
software is available to do this?
A: Several third party products are available for doing NEXTSTEP to Appletalk or Mac to
TCP/IP
networking, including printer sharing.
Partner uShare
IPT (Information Presentation Technologies, Inc.)
(805) 541-3000
(805) 541-3037 (fax)
555 Chorro Street, Suite A
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
NFS/Share InterPrint Planet X
InterCon Systems Corporation
(703) 709-5500
(703) 709-5555
email: info@intercon.com
WWW: http://www.intercon.com/
950 Herndon Parkway, Suite 420
Herndon, VA 22070
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric A. Dubiel; http://138.87.201.11 Instructional
mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Technology
PEACE LOVE Services
UNITY RESPECT Illinois State University
"Understanding is best learned via experience."
"Follow our instinct, not a trend. Go against the grain until the end." Unknown ....
VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fixed Pitch Font
Date: 19 Mar 1996 00:05:46 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <4iktoq$emt@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <4ib6au$pl3@hermes.is.co.za>
In-Reply-To: <4ib6au$pl3@hermes.is.co.za>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
On 03/14/96, gvandyk@icon.co.za wrote:
>I need a fixed pitch font for report writing....
I have installed the Century Schoolbook Monospace font from the
Bitstream 500 Font CD for Windows. It looks better when printed than
on-screen.
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: vbragin@uranus.calstatela.edu (Victoria Bragin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing resolution much better than screen resolution - why?
Date: 19 Mar 1996 03:25:53 GMT
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <4il9g1$8dt@nuke.csu.net>
When one creates "slides" or "transparencies" using Concurrence,
why is it that tiff or eps files which are dragged into the
document window retain the original high resolution when printed
but lose the resolution on screen? That is, what you see on paper,
is a million times better than what you actually look at (and,
therefore, project on the screen. What then happens is I would
just rather use the better quality overhead transparencies which
I printed from the Concurrence.app rather than actually run the
presentation using Concurrence, where the images look quite inferior.
Thanks.
Vicki Bragin
From: haines@internetfront.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: word perfect for windows e-mail
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 17:07:46 GMT
Organization: Bell Global Solutions
Message-ID: <4hppjk$5j7@news.bellglobal.com>
Does anyone out there have a copy of a word perfect (5.1) for windows
(3.1) e-mail program they could send me or tell me where I could get
one. I want to use it as my personal e-mail program for internet mail.
I am currently using Eudora lite. My wife finds this one hard as she
uses a windows word perfect one at work as do I. I would also like to
know how to set it up to be my internet e-mailer. As you can propably
tell I'm new at this.
Please respond to haines@internetfront.com
Thank you
From: haas@world-net.sct.fr (Bertrand HAAS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: NeXTStep Compress
Date: 19 Mar 1996 12:03:54 GMT
Organization: DASSAULT A.T.
Message-ID: <4im7ra$mu4@aldebaran.sct.fr>
References: <4ikg05$i7t@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
In article <4ikg05$i7t@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu says...
>
>hi,
>
>i compressed folders individually using the compress utility from the
>NeXT Browser. now i would like to uncompress those files from a shell.
> (i have to use a shell because i'm off-site.) using "uncompress
>folder_name.compressed" fails and returns the message
>"file_name.compressed.Z: No such file or directory".
>
You have to do :
uncompress -c < file_name.compressed | gnutar xvf -
or :
gnutar xvzf file_name.compressed
That's all.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kasahara@nppc2.ins.u-tokyo.ac.jp ()
Subject: Re: Wo gibt es Maple f NS (Intel)
Message-ID: <DoIMuI.JqL@inssun.ins.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Sender: news@inssun.ins.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: Inst. for Nuclear Study, Univ. of Tokyo
References: <4ik3p1$jth@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:01:29 GMT
In article <4ik3p1$jth@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
> Katsuaki Kasahara (kasahara@empc4.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp) wrote:
> : I received a reply from a reseller of Maple; they have
> : Next, Intel, HP versions. However, they have no plan of
> : updating the current version (MapleV,2) at least at present.
>
> Are you sure they have Maple V Rel 2 for NS/HP ? We have Rel 2 for
> NS/Intel and Moto, but not for HP! I was told that Rel 3 was to
> support HP, and according to rumours, Rel 3 for NS should be out now
> (hmm, Waterloo's WWW site doesn't know about it yet, but it also
> doesn't tell you about Rel 2 for Intel, which is definitely
available
> ;-).
>
The story I got the information was as follows.
After seeing a post that Maple V was available for NEXT,
I sent query e-mail to the Maple headquarter sited in that post. They
forwarded my mail to the Japanese reseller,
################## T U A T #################
Cybernet Systems Corporation
ASS, Marketing Rep.
TEL:03-5978-5410$B!!(JFAX:03-5978-5440
############################################
and a lady there sent me a mail in which
she stated Maple V R 2 for Intel, Next and HP exist definitely.
She also promised me to send the price list, but
I haven't received it yet.
Her e-mail address is:
Sachie Nagaoka <nagaoka@cybernet.co.jp>
K.Kasahara
e-mail: kasahara@icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp
kasahara@cpnx2.b6.kanagawa-u.ac.jp
(NEXT/MIME mail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jpmeia@netcom.com
Subject: Enhanced CUSeeMe?
Message-ID: <nntpuserDoInMA.KIt@netcom.com>
Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:18:10 GMT
Does anyone know of a port of WhitePine's Enhanced CuSeeMe video conferencing
software?
Thanks, JP
From: abid@solaria.com (Abid Khwaja)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Xmodem for NeXT
Date: 19 Mar 1996 14:46:42 GMT
Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc.
Message-ID: <4imhci$gg0@chinx4.thoughtport.net>
The answer was emailed to me by someone:
In article <4iced6$j3@chinx4.thoughtport.net> you wrote:
: Does anyone know of an XModem implementation for NeXT and/or UNIX and where
: to get it?
get yourself 'tip_zmodem.tar.gz'. It's a tip-like terminalprg with
build-in x/y and zmodem. You should find it on most next archives.
(ie. src.doc.ic.ac.uk).
Thanks for the help. You can also get it at
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/sources/comm/tip_zmodem.tar.Z
--
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America Online _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
Internet email Administration _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/
Pencom Systems Administration _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
abid@psa.pencom.com _/ _/_/ _/ _/
abid@solaria.com
From: zmahmood@site.gmu.edu (Zakir Mahmood (ELEN))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AVATAR help, please
Date: 19 Mar 1996 15:02:18 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <4imi9q$sgn@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello:
I was wondering if some out there has used the product called AVATAR. It is
by a company called International Data Systems. I is supposedly "automated
software that can convert/re-engineer application code from any source to any
new target environment." I would like to know if anyone has used this product
and what they think of it. I would like to know what types of files it can
convert and with what ease.Does it work with smalltalk, C++,cobol,vm,mvs?
what type of operating system(s) does it run under?
I would like to know what you think of it.
Any help in this regard would be greatly appreciated.
If you can share some information, please e-mail me at: zmahmood@gmu.edu
or at mahmood@usairln.usair.com
Thanks
Zakir
From: rigler@schullin.co.at (Wolfgang Rigler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tiff-decompression on sgi-indy
Date: 19 Mar 1996 16:40:23 GMT
Organization: EUnet EDV DienstleistungsgesmbH, Wien
Message-ID: <4imo1n$i21@news.Austria.EU.net>
We have a lot of images (~1000+) in our system, all are tiffs created with
the program "VideoApp.app"+NextDimension. These images are compressed with
the "NEXT-JPEG"-compression by factor 10. Now we have extented our network
with an sgi-indy.
There is no way to display these compressed images on the sqi. :-(
(Of course, I can decompress them first on and store them 10 to 20 times
larger as uncompressed tiffs, but this is not the goal.)
Is is possible to "call" a program from the sgi, like a service under
NEXTSTEP, thats decompress the image first and send the result to the indy,
where it can be displayed ?
Has anyone a program or source-code for the NEXTSTEP-TIFF-DECOMPRESSION, so a
small "NEXT-TIFF-Viewer" can be written on sgi ?
Other ideas ?
Thanks a lot,
Wolfgang Rigler
rigler@schullin.co.at
From: yibwu@napoleon.plato.sky.bdm.com(Yibing Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Any news group for OpenStep?
Date: 19 Mar 1996 23:51:09 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <4inh9d$qem@news.mcl.bdm.com>
Is there a news group (or groups) for OpenStep only? e.g. the compatibility
issues, the conversions and, of course, bugs.
An urgent question is, does OpenStep on Mach work with SQL+Net V2 from
Oracle? I know it works with V1 and NeXTSTEP 3.3 works with SQL+Net V2.
However, after I created the /etc/tnsnames.ora file, modified the .eomodels,
the EOModeler tells me: "Cannot connect to server!".
SIgh, I am not expecting any response... I found NeXT community less
responsive than many other groups.
Thanks
Bing
From: Eric_Noyau@next.com (Eric Noyau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Any news group for OpenStep?
Date: 20 Mar 1996 00:34:16 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4injq8$ccf@news.next.com>
References: <4inh9d$qem@news.mcl.bdm.com>
In article <4inh9d$qem@news.mcl.bdm.com>
yibwu@napoleon.plato.sky.bdm.com(Yibing Wu) writes:
> [...]
> SIgh, I am not expecting any response... I found NeXT community less
> responsive than many other groups.
> [...]
>
That's for sure! A valid return address helps a lot for that ;^) !
----- Transcript of session follows -----
550 napoleon.plato.sky.bdm.com (ddn)... 550 Host unknown
554 <yibwu@napoleon.plato.sky.bdm.com>... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative
answer from name server)
[...]
-- Eric
Eric_Noyau@NeXT.com
http://www.next.com/~enoyau
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:17:07 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960319131046.9470f-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311152719.10579C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4i9g4k$eda@news.its.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4i9g4k$eda@news.its.com>
On 14 Mar 1996, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> > What is the best/easiest way to break up large files? Specifically
> > .tar.gz files.
>
> GNU split.
I've got it, as I mention on the next line of my post which you quote here:
> > I tried to use the GNU split command, but I couldn't seem to get it to
> > break them up as I wanted them (1.3 meg chunks).
> >
> > Anyone use the gsplit command often enough to know what I'm trying to do?
>
> gsplit -b 1300k _file.tar.gz_ /tmp/part
>
> C'mon, Tim-- GNU split has both a thorough manpage and it responds to --help
> RTFM a little.
yeah and I read them both, but what I was doing wasn't working. No
matter what flags I gave the chunks came out as .234 megs.
Man pages are great as references for people who know how something works
but have forgotten it momentarily. They are bad for trying to learn,
especially for people who don't speak the language (UNIX, that is).
C'mon Chuck, give me at least a little credit. Maybe its time for me to
go back to my old .sig (below) A lot of people liked it.
--
Timothy J. Luoma
<luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"If I understood the man page, I wouldn't have asked the question"
-- me
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de>
Subject: Interesting files in OmniWeb. . .
Message-ID: <7xu3zkydsv.fsf@burrow.muc.de>
Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de
Organization: hardly any...
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 21:26:56 GMT
. . . whay are they for?
moose.tiff
parchment.jpg
squirrel.tiff
rib_bar_wh.gif (Free Speech Online Blue Ribbon Campaign - I know it,
I endorse it, but why is it in OmniWeb.app/ ?)
And since I don't want to ask only stupid questions: how do I cache
pages (images) for ever (eg. from my favorite search engines)?
markus g a/k/a the mole
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/ / / / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . tm@burrow.muc.de
__/ __/ __/ __/ . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.muc.de/~mgloede/
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Any news group for OpenStep?
Date: 20 Mar 1996 06:10:24 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-b-43.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4io7gg$cmj@usc.edu>
References: <4inh9d$qem@news.mcl.bdm.com>
In <4inh9d$qem@news.mcl.bdm.com> Yibing Wu wrote:
> Is there a news group (or groups) for OpenStep only? e.g. the compatibility
> issues, the conversions and, of course, bugs.
>
> An urgent question is, does OpenStep on Mach work with SQL+Net V2 from
> Oracle? I know it works with V1 and NeXTSTEP 3.3 works with SQL+Net V2.
> However, after I created the /etc/tnsnames.ora file, modified the
> .eomodels, the EOModeler tells me: "Cannot connect to server!".
>
> SIgh, I am not expecting any response... I found NeXT community less
> responsive than many other groups.
I certainly don't know the answer to your question.
But that last comment I can say from experience is patently untrue!
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: Brian Kevin Moore <bkmoore@uci.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GNU ncurses 1.9.8a under NeXT 3.3
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 20 Mar 1996 05:56:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4io6mk$q1t@news.service.uci.edu>
NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE
Hi all!
Lately I've been trying to compile ncurses 1.9.8a under NeXT 3.3 without
success. The configuration works normally, but the compiler always hangs
during the compilation. When it hangs it is due to some type of improperply
declared variable, or some undefined symbol. Unfortunately I don't have the
exact error message handy at the moment.
Has anyone ever gotten ncurses to compile under NeXT? I've also tried to
comile 1.8.4 and 1.6.something, all without success. The reason that I would
like to build ncurses is so that I can compile some of the BSD ASCII games
such as approach, and hangman.
Any help in figuring out how to build ncurses would be appreciated.
Thank you
From: Joe Reiss <jreiss@vt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Interesting files in OmniWeb. . .
Date: 20 Mar 1996 08:27:28 -0500
Organization: Let the chips fall where they may
Sender: joe@localhost.vt.edu
Message-ID: <x5ivfzvqrj.fsf@localhost.vt.edu>
References: <7xu3zkydsv.fsf@burrow.muc.de>
In-reply-to: markus g's message of Tue, 19 Mar 1996 21:26:56 GMT
In article <7xu3zkydsv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de> writes:
>
>. . . whay are they for?
>
>moose.tiff
>parchment.jpg
>squirrel.tiff
>rib_bar_wh.gif (Free Speech Online Blue Ribbon Campaign - I know it,
> I endorse it, but why is it in OmniWeb.app/ ?)
moose.tiff and squirrel.tiff are used when you create a <UL> list with
"type=moose" or "type=squirrel". One of those fanciful things that
is well documented but no one really believes until they try it.
rib_bar_wh.gif is used on the Start.html page, the default startup
page contained in the OmniWeb.app wrapper.
parchment.jpg has me stumped. But 3 out of 4 ain't bad!
As for making images so they don't expire, have you tried entering the
string "NeverExpire" for the expiration time in the cache preferences
panel?
Joe
--
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| | |__) | ======================================================== |
| (_|OE| \EISS | - Miles O'Brien and Miles O'Brien, "Visionary" |
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: something like LexiRom ???
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 15:38:39 +0100
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitt Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <3150186F.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi folks,
Is there a program available for NextStep that offers
the following informations
(similar to the CD-ROM 'LexiRom' by Megasoft
for MS Windows):
- German/English - English/German Dictionary
- German/French - French/German Dictionary
- (maybe even a multilingual lexicon?)
- German Dictionaries ''Duden'' (Spelling, Foreign Borrowings,
Synonyms, Encyclopaedia)
- German Thesaurus / Lexicon
Is there a german version of Webster anywhere ?
Any hints ?
stef
___________________________________________________________________________
/Stefan Ried, MPI fuer Polymerforschung, Postfach 3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \
| ... openstep, the biggest step |
| E-Mail : ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the foundation |
| Telefon : ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ..of the wheel__/___/ |
| Project : working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\|
| WWW-Page : http://www.physik.uni-essen.de/personen/stef.html \_/ \_/|
\___________________________________________________________________________/
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP: NewsGrazer 3.0/75 is crashing
Date: 20 Mar 1996 15:34:41 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory
Message-ID: <4ip8ih$qlu@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
Only when the newsgroup selected has mamy messages (in excess of 250).
It's running under NS 3.3
Any ideas why? How can the problem be fixed?
Thanks everybody for your answers
--jm
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| Washington DC 20375-5000 | michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil|
From: james@young-ray.hinet.net (James C. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Clock synchronization
Date: 20 Mar 1996 15:55:42 GMT
Organization: DCI HiNet
Message-ID: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net>
Hello everyone,
My NeXTcube clock is drifting and like to find a program to
synchronize the clock with my network server. Can anyone suggest me a
utility?
--
Many thanks in advance and best regards,
===========================================================================
James C. Lin
MAIL: P.O.Box 122 Qingdao Huan Hai Woodentech Co., Ltd.
Fengyuan 42099 Xishan Cun, Luiting Town
Taiwan, Rep. of China Chengyang Dist.
Qingdao, PRC 266108
PHONE: 886.4.522.6650 86.532.481.6540
FAX: 886.4.527.5264 86.532.481.5154
INTERNET: james@young-ray.hinet.net
NeXTmail & MIME support
From: tremblay_michel@tandem.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Sendmail 8.7.5 on NS FIP cannot send out of my domain.
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:03:58 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers,Inc. (Austin, TX)
Message-ID: <960320120358.352AAEYJ.pmt@a22459>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Keywords: sendmail nextstep
Bonjour all,
I am a sendmail newcomer. I am directly connected to a LAN and I'm the
only NS3.3 FIP, I use sendmail 8.7.5 but I cannot email to the outside of my
domain anymore (no problem with 8.7.3). I can only send mail to the WAN
(tandem.com). I cannot send this email directly to you. I use Eloquent
where I set, under "Send" pop-up menu, I've selected "Local" button under
"Sending Mail" title meaning I'm the mailhost (a22459.cdn.tandem.com). I
have also set my Mailer to /usr/lib/sendmail.
Look for "a22459:" tag to find the commands I used to fetch the info!!!
To complete the picture, here is the content of netinfo sendmail info:
a22459:15# niutil -read / /locations/sendmail
name: sendmail
sendmail.cf: /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf
mailhost: a22459.cdn.tandem.com
Here the set up I've used for my mailhost config file:
a22459:16# more /etc/sendmail/cf/cf/nextmailhost.mc
...
VERSIONID(`@(#)nextmailhost.mc 8.4 (Berkeley) 8/6/95')
OSTYPE(nextstep)dnl
DOMAIN(generic)dnl
MAILER(local)dnl
MAILER(smtp)dnl
MASQUERADE_AS(cdn.tandem.com)
After sending email from Eloquent here is the result:
a22459:17# /usr/lib/sendmail -bp
Mail Queue (5 requests)
--Q-ID-- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient------------
LAA00276 284 Thu Mar 14 11:32 pmt
(Deferred: Connection timed out during initial connection
wit)
tremblay@larc.info.uqam.ca
KAA01680 284 Wed Mar 13 10:17 pmt
(Deferred: Connection timed out during initial connection
wit)
<tremblay@larc.info.uqam.ca>
QAA00434 419 Mon Mar 11 16:05 pmt
(Deferred: Connection timed out during initial connection
wit)
akallos@stlaurent.sgi.com
PAA00362 694 Mon Mar 11 15:41 pmt
(Deferred: Connection timed out with deliverator.sgi.com.)
akallos@stlaurent.sgi.com
LAA00286 (no control file)
Here's an example of what is happening:
a22459:31# mail -v tremblay@larc.info.uqam.ca
Subject: Test de mail tout court 14 mars 12:50
akjdfkljadf
adklsjfas^D
EOT
tremblay@larc.info.uqam.ca... Connecting to saturne.info.uqam.ca. via
smtp...
tremblay@larc.info.uqam.ca... Connecting to cari.telecom.uqam.ca. via
smtp...
tremblay@larc.info.uqam.ca... Deferred: Connection timed out during initial
connection with cari.telecom.uqam.ca.
Here are some supplementary info:
a22459:32# /usr/lib/sendmail -d pmt </dev/null
Version 8.7.5
Compiled with: LOG MATCHGECOS MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETINFO
NETUNIX NEWDB NIS SCANF USERDB XDEBUG
getauthinfo: root@localhost
setoption SevenBitInput (7).=False
setoption EightBitMode (8).=pass8
setoption AliasWait (a).=10
setoption AliasFile (A).=/etc/sendmail/aliases
setoption MinFreeBlocks (b).=100
setoption BlankSub (B).=.
setoption HoldExpensive (c).=False
setoption DeliveryMode (d).=background
setoption TempFileMode (F).=0600
setoption HelpFile (H).=/usr/lib/sendmail.hf
setoption SendMimeErrors (j).=True
setoption ForwardPath (J).=$z/.forward.$w:$z/.forward
setoption ConnectionCacheSize (k).=2
setoption ConnectionCacheTimeout (K).=5m
setoption UseErrorsTo (l).=False
setoption LogLevel (L).=9
setoption CheckAliases (n).=False
setoption OldStyleHeaders (o).=True
setoption PrivacyOptions (p).=authwarnings
setoption QueueDirectory (Q).=/usr/spool/mqueue
setoption Timeout (r).queuereturn=5d
setoption Timeout (r).queuewarn=4h
setoption SuperSafe (s).=True
setoption StatusFile (S).=/etc/sendmail/sendmail.st
setoption DefaultUser (u).=1:1
setoption SmtpGreetingMessage (0x90).=$j Sendmail $v/$Z; $b
setoption UnixFromLine (0x91).=From $g $d
setoption OperatorChars (0x92).=.:%@!^/[]+
============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============
(short domain name) $w = a22459
(canonical domain name) $j = a22459.cdn.tandem.com
(subdomain name) $m = cdn.tandem.com
(node name) $k = a22459.cdn.tandem.com
========================================================
map_rewrite(@), av = (nullv)
map_rewrite => @
queuename: assigned id NAA00386, env=4ace0
setsender()
--parseaddr(pmt)
rewrite: ruleset 3 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 96 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 96 returns: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 3 returns: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 0 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 98 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 98 returns: pmt
map_lookup(dequote, pmt) => NOT FOUND (0)
rewrite: ruleset 0 returns: $# local $: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 4 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 4 returns: pmt
parseaddr-->4acf4=pmt:
mailer 3 (local), host `'
user `pmt', ruser `<null>'
next=0, alias 0, uid 0, gid 0
flags=6000<QPINGONFAILURE,QPINGONDELAY>
owner=(none), home="(none)", fullname="(none)"
orcpt="(none)", statmta=(none), rstatus=(none)
udbmatch(pmt, mailname)
rewrite: ruleset 3 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 96 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 96 returns: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 3 returns: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 1 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 1 returns: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 4 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 4 returns: pmt
sendto: pmt
ctladdr=[NULL]
--parseaddr(pmt)
rewrite: ruleset 3 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 96 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 96 returns: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 3 returns: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 0 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 98 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 98 returns: pmt
map_lookup(dequote, pmt) => NOT FOUND (0)
rewrite: ruleset 0 returns: $# local $: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 2 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 2 returns: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 20 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 20 returns: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 4 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 4 returns: pmt
parseaddr-->52360=pmt:
mailer 3 (local), host `'
user `pmt', ruser `<null>'
next=0, alias 0, uid 0, gid 0
flags=6000<QPINGONFAILURE,QPINGONDELAY>
owner=(none), home="(none)", fullname="(none)"
orcpt="(none)", statmta=(none), rstatus=(none)
recipient (0): 52360=pmt:
mailer 3 (local), host `'
user `pmt', ruser `<null>'
next=0, alias 0, uid 0, gid 0
flags=6008<QPRIMARY,QPINGONFAILURE,QPINGONDELAY>
owner=(none), home="(none)", fullname="(none)"
orcpt="(none)", statmta=(none), rstatus=(none)
alias(pmt)
udbexpand(pmt)
maplocaluser: 52360=pmt:
mailer 3 (local), host `'
user `pmt', ruser `<null>'
next=0, alias 0, uid 0, gid 0
flags=6008<QPRIMARY,QPINGONFAILURE,QPINGONDELAY>
owner=(none), home="(none)", fullname="(none)"
orcpt="(none)", statmta=(none), rstatus=(none)
rewrite: ruleset 5 input: pmt
rewrite: ruleset 5 returns: pmt
forward(pmt)
----- collected header -----
Return-Path: ($g) pmt
Received: ($?sfrom $s $.$?_($?s$|from $.$_) $.by $j ($v/$Z)$?r with $r$. id
$i$?u for $u$.; $b) (from root@localhost) by a22459.cdn.tandem.com
(8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA00386 for pmt; Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:17:58 -0500 (EST)
Resent-Date: ($a) Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:17:58 -0500 (EST)
Date: ($a) Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:17:58 -0500 (EST)
Resent-From: ($?x$x <$g>$|$g$.) crackaddr(Pierre-Michel Tremblay <pmt>)
crackaddr=>`Pierre-Michel Tremblay <g>'
Pierre-Michel Tremblay <pmt>
From: ($?x$x <$g>$|$g$.) crackaddr(Pierre-Michel Tremblay <pmt>)
crackaddr=>`Pierre-Michel Tremblay <g>'
Pierre-Michel Tremblay <pmt>
Full-Name: ($x) Pierre-Michel Tremblay
Subject: ()
Resent-Message-Id: (<$t.$i@$j>)
<199603141817.NAA00386@a22459.cdn.tandem.com>
Message-Id: (<$t.$i@$j>) <199603141817.NAA00386@a22459.cdn.tandem.com>
----------------------------
From person = "pmt"
===== SENDALL: mode b, id NAA00386, e_from 4acf4=pmt:
mailer 3 (local), host `'
user `pmt', ruser `<null>'
next=0, alias 0, uid 100, gid 20
flags=6005<QDONTSEND,QGOODUID,QPINGONFAILURE,QPINGONDELAY>
owner=(none), home="/Users/pmt", fullname="(none)"
orcpt="(none)", statmta=(none), rstatus=(none)
e_flags = 201001<OLDSTYLE,GLOBALERRS,HAS_DF>
sendqueue:
52360=pmt:
mailer 3 (local), host `'
user `pmt', ruser `pmt'
next=0, alias 0, uid 100, gid 20
flags=600c<QGOODUID,QPRIMARY,QPINGONFAILURE,QPINGONDELAY>
owner=(none), home="/Users/pmt", fullname="Pierre-Michel Tremblay"
orcpt="(none)", statmta=(none), rstatus=(none)
recipient (0): 4acf4=pmt:
mailer 3 (local), host `'
user `pmt', ruser `<null>'
next=0, alias 0, uid 100, gid 20
flags=600d<QDONTSEND,QGOODUID,QPRIMARY,QPINGONFAILURE,QPINGONDELAY>
owner=(none), home="/Users/pmt", fullname="(none)"
orcpt="(none)", statmta=(none), rstatus=(none)
pmt in sendq: 52360=pmt:
mailer 3 (local), host `'
user `pmt', ruser `pmt'
next=0, alias 0, uid 100, gid 20
flags=600c<QGOODUID,QPRIMARY,QPINGONFAILURE,QPINGONDELAY>
owner=(none), home="/Users/pmt", fullname="Pierre-Michel Tremblay"
orcpt="(none)", statmta=(none), rstatus=(none)
>>>>> queueing NAA00386 (new id) >>>>>
queueing 52360=pmt:
mailer 3 (local), host `'
user `pmt', ruser `pmt'
next=0, alias 0, uid 100, gid 20
flags=600c<QGOODUID,QPRIMARY,QPINGONFAILURE,QPINGONDELAY>
owner=(none), home="/Users/pmt", fullname="Pierre-Michel Tremblay"
orcpt="(none)", statmta=(none), rstatus=(none)
remotename(Pierre-Michel Tremblay <pmt>)
<<<<< done queueing NAA00386 <<<<<
disconnect: In 0 Out 1, e=4ace0
====finis: stat 0 e_id=NOQUEUE e_flags=1003<OLDSTYLE,INQUEUE,GLOBALERRS>
dropenvelope 4ace0: id=<null>, flags=1003<OLDSTYLE,INQUEUE,GLOBALERRS>
Here is the content of service.switch:
hosts netinfo files dns
aliases netinfo files
What do you think could be the problem?
I'm ready to try /usr/lib/sendmail -bt if it can be helpfull to you!!
I used to be able to with Sendmail 8.7.3.
Here's a telnet to the sendmail port:
a22459(/dev/ttyp1):[/Users/pmt]
telnet localhost 25
Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 a22459.cdn.tandem.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.5/8.7.3; Wed, 20 Mar 1996
11:23:50 -0500 (EST)
Can you see something wrong with this?
Thanks.
Michel.
Pierre-Michel Tremblay | Email: tremblay_michel@tandem.com
Tandem Computers Canada Ltd | NS 3.3 FIP.
2000, ave du college McGill | NeXT and MIME mail ok.
Bureau 800 | Voice: 514/282-3123
Montreal, Quebec H3A 3H3 | Fax: 514/282-6349
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Clock synchronization
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DoKw3C.16B@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 18:16:23 GMT
References: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net>,
James C. Lin <james@young-ray.hinet.net> wrote:
>
>
>Hello everyone,
>
> My NeXTcube clock is drifting and like to find a program to
>synchronize the clock with my network server. Can anyone suggest me a
>utility?
>
ntp(8) does just what you want. The man page should be enough to get you
started.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Zachary Ha <ha@sns.ias.edu>
Subject: xdvi for mouse-X
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr
Message-ID: <31505AA2.41C67EA6@sns.ias.edu>
Sender: news@tigger.jvnc.net (Zee News Genie)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Organization: JvNCnet
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 19:21:06 GMT
Has anyone out there tried to compile xdvi under mouse-X on NeXTStation
running NS3.2 ? The mouse-X (compiled version I got off the next
archive) seems to be missing the following library fuction:
__XExtensionErrorFunction
Zach Ha
ha@sns.ias.edu
From: Tremblay_Michel@Tandem.com (Pierre-Michel Tremblay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sorry. Testing.
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:07:55 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers,Inc. (Austin, TX)
Message-ID: <960320150755.352AAEYL.pmt@a22459>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
From: mpaque@pbinet.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Any news group for OpenStep?
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 20:48:16 GMT
Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services
Message-ID: <4ipr3s$7hv@SNFC21_SRVR_WWW.PBI.net>
References: <4inh9d$qem@news.mcl.bdm.com>
yibwu@napoleon.plato.sky.bdm.com(Yibing Wu) wrote:
>Is there a news group (or groups) for OpenStep only? e.g. the compatibility
>issues, the conversions and, of course, bugs.
I suggest looking at comp.sys.next.software and
comp.sys.next.programmer for user and programmer discussions,
respectively.
Note that the OPENSTEP implementations currently out are beta
releases, and those who have them are under nondisclosure agreements,
as (suprise!) the beta releases aren't quite the same as the
anticipated final releases. There's not much discusson activity yet.
Once the final releases of OPENSTEP for Mach, Windows, and Solaris are
out, I expect to see plenty of discussion on these groups.
>An urgent question is, does OpenStep on Mach work with SQL+Net V2 from
>Oracle? I know it works with V1 and NeXTSTEP 3.3 works with SQL+Net V2.
>However, after I created the /etc/tnsnames.ora file, modified the .eomodels,
>the EOModeler tells me: "Cannot connect to server!".
Don't know about EOF/Database stuff. Perhaps one of the EOF gurus
will share that information with us.
>SIgh, I am not expecting any response... I found NeXT community less
>responsive than many other groups.
Some folks get tired of being flamed, mail-bombed, and generally
abused when they try to answer questions. (Some of the USENET
equivalent of stalkers lurk in comp.sys.next.*) Me, I just beef up the
mail filters and killfiles and go on my way.
Also, don't forget that USENET connectivity and reliability isn't what
it used to be. About 20% of articles appearing on major East Coast
(USA) sites never make it to many sites where I am (San Francisco Bay
Area). Sometimes I'd swear that backbone sites are expiring based on
posting dates, or giving priority to
alt.binaries.nekkid..swedish.chefs.bork.bork.bork...
Mike Paquette
I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me.
mpaque@pbinet.com Personal E-mail
mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Subject: OneVision English version
Message-ID: <DoL0v9.3BL@hurka.UUCP>
Keywords: OneVision DTP
Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka)
Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.)
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 19:59:33 GMT
Hi All,
friend of mine is interested in the English version of OneVision. I
remember that there was a discussion about demo CD with OneVision, but I
did not have any details. Can someone write me where I (or he) can get
such CD?
Thank you in advance.
--
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz
NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
From: Tremblay_Michel@Tandem.com (Pierre-Michel Tremblay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News reader
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 21:21:01 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers,Inc. (Austin, TX)
Message-ID: <960320162101.352AAEYQ.pmt@a22459>
References: <6VANxcm0fxeO089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk> <4h7do8$qv3@tigger.planet.eon.net> <4h8p4s$out@nntp1.best.com> <4hdli7$a2q@news4.digex.net> <960305200338.1135AAFxE.mosh@darmok> <4hnpgf$bpv@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Keywords: news newsreader Eloquent
I admit Eloquent crawls. It's so true. But do other news readers can
easily allow you to grab news and put it in your email folders?
Ciao.
Michel.
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OneVision English version
Date: 20 Mar 1996 22:48:38 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-09.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4iq206$pp1@usc.edu>
References: <DoL0v9.3BL@hurka.UUCP>
In <DoL0v9.3BL@hurka.UUCP> Tomas Hurka wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> friend of mine is interested in the English version of OneVision. I
> remember that there was a discussion about demo CD with OneVision, but I
> did not have any details. Can someone write me where I (or he) can get
> such CD?
Talk to them direct :
onevision.de!hans@relay.xlink.net
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Printing WriteNopw files with 3.3
In-Reply-To: Paul WINDEY's message of Mon, 18 Mar 1996 12:57:43 +0100
Message-ID: <RDL.96Mar20224440@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <314D4FB7.7FF6@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 03:44:40 GMT
Upgrade to AFS's WriteUp word processor. It reads WriteNow files and is
far better than WriteNow and sports a better GUI than OpenWrite.
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
From: pbrown@asparagus.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: xdvi for mouse-X
Date: 21 Mar 1996 06:41:30 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Message-ID: <4iqtmq$b02@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <31505AA2.41C67EA6@sns.ias.edu>
In article <31505AA2.41C67EA6@sns.ias.edu>, Zachary Ha <ha@sns.ias.edu> wrote:
>Has anyone out there tried to compile xdvi under mouse-X on NeXTStation
>running NS3.2 ? The mouse-X (compiled version I got off the next
>archive) seems to be missing the following library fuction:
>
>__XExtensionErrorFunction
I tried to build it from sources (xdvik), but I wasn't interested in
hacking through it to get it to work properly. May I ask why you're
interested in xdvi? It's a fine program, but it can't hold a candle to
TeXview. Among other things, you won't be able to preview any \special'd
postscript illustrations.
It is entirely possible to hack TeXview to work with the teTeX
distribution that Gregor Hoffleit has released, and I know of someone ;)
who's hacked it to do 2-up printing from the print panel, added a bunch of
precompiled formats, etc. The teTeX distribution includes the NeXT IPC, so
it interfaces flawlessly with TeXview. I'm using it, and I had only the
minimal task of switching over to US paper sizes and removing the German
hyphenation dictionary.
Paul
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: mouse movement tools ?
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:36:29 +0100
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitt Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <3151150D.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi folks,
some times ago I've read an announce for an alternative mouse pointer driver or a
tool.
It promised that the mouse feeling and acceleration is just the same as in
MS-Windows. The way the mouse pointer is reacting esp. with big screens is a bit
strange for former MS-Windows Users.
Is this tool raelly doing that ?
Where can I get it ?
Thanks
stef
___________________________________________________________________________
/Stefan Ried, MPI fuer Polymerforschung, Postfach 3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \
| ... openstep, the biggest step |
| E-Mail : ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the foundation |
| Telefon : ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ..of the wheel__/___/ |
| Project : working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\|
| WWW-Page : http://www.Physik.Uni-Essen.DE/w/stef/stef.html \_/ \_/|
\___________________________________________________________________________/
From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Interesting files in OmniWeb. . .
Date: 21 Mar 1996 08:46:43 GMT
Organization: Academic and Research Network of Slovenia
Message-ID: <4ir51j$349@cmir.arnes.si>
References: <7xu3zkydsv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> <x5ivfzvqrj.fsf@localhost.vt.edu>
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
In <x5ivfzvqrj.fsf@localhost.vt.edu> Joe Reiss wrote:
> parchment.jpg has me stumped. But 3 out of 4 ain't bad!
It's used in help and start pages. Figured it out myself! Feel good about it!
--
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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.7.5 on NS FIP cannot send out of my domain.
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 04:05:00 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <315129CC.36B2@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <960320120358.352AAEYJ.pmt@a22459>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I don't know enough about sendmail either- I cannot even get it to send ANY MAIL in
NEXTSTEP 3.3, (other TCP/IP services do work)....I get this 550 Host unknown
(Authoritative answer from name server):
error...
Can anyone help?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Technology
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UNITY RESPECT Illinois State University
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From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Any news group for OpenStep?
Date: 21 Mar 1996 04:12:35 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4iqkvj$8ii@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4inh9d$qem@news.mcl.bdm.com> <4ipr3s$7hv@SNFC21_SRVR_WWW.PBI.net>
mpaque@pbinet.com (Mike Paquette) wrote:
> Once the final releases of OPENSTEP for Mach, Windows, and Solaris
> are out, I expect to see plenty of discussion on these groups.
Will there be a new set of Addison-Wesley books?
> > SIgh, I am not expecting any response... I found NeXT community
> > less responsive than many other groups.
>
> Also, don't forget that USENET connectivity and reliability isn't
> what it used to be. About 20% of articles appearing on major
> East Coast (USA) sites never make it to many sites where I am
> (San Francisco Bay Area). Sometimes I'd swear that backbone
> sites are expiring based on posting dates, ...
This is definitely true here at RPI. One of the reasons I'm on
usenet so much is that RPI expires articles based on the date
posted. Of course, we don't *get* them on the date posted, and
I *know* that there are articles which only exist on our server
for a few hours.
It's also clear that I'm not seeing all the articles posted,
because I see replies to things that I never see the original
to (and it's not likely that the original was expired). I've
got to check into alternate sources for reading news sometime.
Of course, it's long been my contention that all of usenet was
bound to collapse at some point. I think we're nearing that
point. There are many newsgroups I'm interested in which I
simply can't follow anymore, because there isn't enough time
to do a good job at it.
Of course, I wouldn't mind if the NeXT newsgroups were a bit
busier...
---
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 12:23:33 +0100
From: antonio@chbslu19.ch.swissbank.com (Antonio L. Adrover)
Message-ID: <9603211123.AA03062@chbslu19.ch.swissbank.com>
Subject: RE-Any news group for OpenStep?
Hello Bing
> Is there a news group (or groups) for OpenStep only? e.g. the compatibility
> issues, the conversions and, of course, bugs.
> An urgent question is, does OpenStep on Mach work with SQL+Net V2 from
> Oracle? I know it works with V1 and NeXTSTEP 3.3 works with SQL+Net V2.
> However, after I created the /etc/tnsnames.ora file, modified the .eomodels,
> the EOModeler tells me: "Cannot connect to server!".
....
I am not working on the same subject but I had a similar problem
installing a DB2 Gateway on a Sun. I would like to know more about
the problem to possibly give an answer. Please let me know if you
got an answer (see PS) to your first question about a group for
OpenStep.
Bye Antonio L. Adrover
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SYSTOR AG (BS) | phone = +41 (61) 288 96 21
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PS
==
> SIgh, I am not expecting any response... I found NeXT community less
> responsive than many other groups.
YOUR MAIL BOUNCES BACK
421 Host napoleon.plato.sky.bdm.com. not found for mailer xtcp.
550 yibwu@napoleon.plato.sky.bdm.com... Host unknown
Date: 21 Mar 1996 15:00:15 GMT
From: zmahmood@site.gmu.edu (Zakir Mahmood (ELEN))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Message-ID: <cancel.4imi9q$sgn@portal.gmu.edu>
Control: cancel <4imi9q$sgn@portal.gmu.edu>
Subject: cmsg cancel <4imi9q$sgn@portal.gmu.edu>
EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by jem@xpat.com.
See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19960321.02 for further details
From: rdieter@mathlab44.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Maple NS (Intel)
Date: 21 Mar 1996 15:26:19 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <4irser$69h@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <4ik3p1$jth@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <4ik3p1$jth@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
> Katsuaki Kasahara (kasahara@empc4.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp) wrote:
> : I received a reply from a reseller of Maple; they have
> : Next, Intel, HP versions. However, they have no plan of
> : updating the current version (MapleV,2) at least at present.
>
> Are you sure they have Maple V Rel 2 for NS/HP ? We have Rel 2 for
> NS/Intel and Moto, but not for HP! I was told that Rel 3 was to
> support HP, and according to rumours, Rel 3 for NS should be out now
> (hmm, Waterloo's WWW site doesn't know about it yet, but it also
> doesn't tell you about Rel 2 for Intel, which is definitely available
This isn't official by any means... it's just what I've heard through the
grapevine: Maple VR3 for NS (Intel, NeXT, HP) is nearing the end of the
beta-test cycle and should be available relatively soon (whatever that
means).
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.7.5 on NS FIP cannot send out of my domain.
Date: 21 Mar 1996 18:42:33 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-40.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4is7up$pm5@usc.edu>
References: <960320120358.352AAEYJ.pmt@a22459> <315129CC.36B2@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
In <315129CC.36B2@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" wrote:
> I don't know enough about sendmail either- I cannot even get it to send ANY
MAIL in
> NEXTSTEP 3.3, (other TCP/IP services do work)....I get this 550 Host
unknown
> (Authoritative answer from name server):
> error...
I think this is a FAQ by now. First, what is the sendmail version you're
using? Second, the general solution (at least for v. 8.7.3 and up) is to add
separate machine names and aliases and ip addresses into netinfo for your
local machine and your mailhost, then repeat the information in your
/etc/hosts file. In addition, have you set up your /etc/resolv.conf file
correctly?
Maybe you could be more specific about your setup...
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Be well,
Matthew Reichman
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From: jgloede@interpc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: Enhanced CUSeeMe?
Message-ID: <DoMABG.4wD@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
References: <nntpuserDoInMA.KIt@netcom.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 12:21:15 GMT
jpmeia@netcom.com writes
> Does anyone know of a port of WhitePine's Enhanced CuSeeMe
> video conferencing software?
>
Tell me more about the ISDN-board driver you want to use
for that?!?
so long,
jens ch. gloede
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E-Mail: jens@interpc.de NeXT & MIME Mail ok (int.< 1 MB)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Maple NS (Intel)
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DoMt3o.8Et@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:07:00 GMT
References: <4ik3p1$jth@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <4irser$69h@crcnis3.unl.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4irser$69h@crcnis3.unl.edu>,
Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote:
>
>This isn't official by any means... it's just what I've heard through the
>grapevine: Maple VR3 for NS (Intel, NeXT, HP) is nearing the end of the
>beta-test cycle and should be available relatively soon (whatever that
>means).
>
That's what I've heard too, directly from Maplesoft.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft)
Subject: Converting NeXTSTEP tiffs to Windows BMP or ICO
Message-ID: <DoMxq9.5GJ@trapac.com>
Organization: Trans Pacific Container Service Corporation
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 20:46:55 GMT
I've had a number of icons created for a clients internal NeXTSTEP
applications. Now the head of the company has come to me and asked
about converting them to be used in some other programs in the
company. These programs are based on Visual Basic and Microsoft
access, and run under Windows (perhaps Widnows NT). Is there any
program out there that will perform this translation? It does not
matter whether it's a windows or NeXTSTEP application.
Thanks in advance...
--
Karl Kraft
Karl_Kraft@trapac.com
Karl_Kraft@ensuing.com
[My opinions are my own]
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GNU ncurses 1.9.8a under NeXT 3.3
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:36:33 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960321103410.12422J-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4io6mk$q1t@news.service.uci.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4io6mk$q1t@news.service.uci.edu>
On 20 Mar 1996, Brian Kevin Moore wrote:
> Has anyone ever gotten ncurses to compile under NeXT? I've also tried to
> comile 1.8.4 and 1.6.something, all without success. The reason that I would
> like to build ncurses is so that I can compile some of the BSD ASCII games
> such as approach, and hangman.
Well, it isn't 1.9.8, but our own beloved Carl Edman has made 1.9.6
publically available out of the goodness of his heart ;-)
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/sources/programming/ncurses-1.9.6.NIHS.s.README
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/sources/programming/ncurses-1.9.6.NIHS.s.tar.gz
TjL
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and more... For details, send message with subject 'send info'
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mouse movement tools ?
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 10:46:48 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960321103819.12422K-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <3151150D.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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In-Reply-To: <3151150D.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
On Thu, 21 Mar 1996, Stefan Ried wrote:
>
> some times ago I've read an announce for an alternative mouse pointer
> driver or a tool.
>
> It promised that the mouse feeling and acceleration is just the same as in
> MS-Windows. The way the mouse pointer is reacting esp. with big screens is a bit
> strange for former MS-Windows Users.
>
> Is this tool raelly doing that ?
> Where can I get it ?
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.README
Is the only thing I can think of.
Unfortunately I think there was another one which spoke of making the
mouse feel like an MS mouse, and I don't think it is this one.
However, this may be of some help...
TjL
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Converting NeXTSTEP tiffs to Windows BMP or ICO
Date: 22 Mar 1996 00:11:04 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-57.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4isr6o$lmg@usc.edu>
References: <DoMxq9.5GJ@trapac.com>
In <DoMxq9.5GJ@trapac.com> Karl Kraft wrote:
> I've had a number of icons created for a clients internal NeXTSTEP
> applications. Now the head of the company has come to me and asked
> about converting them to be used in some other programs in the
> company. These programs are based on Visual Basic and Microsoft
> access, and run under Windows (perhaps Widnows NT). Is there any
> program out there that will perform this translation? It does not
> matter whether it's a windows or NeXTSTEP application.
What program did you create the tiffs in? Some programs have the option to
save as non-NeXT tiffs.
PixelMagician from Bcchus will convert anything to anything. Highly
recommended.
Not sure about freeware/shareware stuff though.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
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===============================================================
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From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing resolution much better than screen resolution - why?
Date: 22 Mar 1996 05:14:32 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <4itcvo$28p@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <4il9g1$8dt@nuke.csu.net>
In-Reply-To: <4il9g1$8dt@nuke.csu.net>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
On 03/18/96, Victoria Bragin wrote:
> When one creates "slides" or "transparencies" using Concurrence,
> why is it that tiff or eps files which are dragged into the
> document window retain the original high resolution when printed
> but lose the resolution on screen? That is, what you see on
paper,
> is a million times better than what you actually look at (and,
> therefore, project on the screen. What then happens is I would
> just rather use the better quality overhead transparencies which
> I printed from the Concurrence.app rather than actually run the
> presentation using Concurrence, where the images look quite
inferior.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki Bragin
>
>
The printers output in the range 300-600 dots per inch (if not more
with newer and fancier printers). So the images will be crisper.
The monitor can only show 72 dots per inch. Especially in B&W
EPS files: Those make use of the highest resolution available
on the device they are printed on while greyscale bitmapped TIFF
files will look coarser than B&W EPS files due to dithering/half
toning. TIFF images usually look worse printed on paper than on the
screen due to half-toning. Just print any Web page with graphics
and you'll see what I mean.
If the quality is WAY more inferior on screen, it could be that your
images are getting scaled down in Concurrence. Usually, dumb
scaling-down algorithms will leave the image looking coarse and
distorted. Make sure the images occupy the same number of pixels
they were created at.
For fonts, printed output to transperancies or to a SlideMaker will
always look better than projecting the monitor. However, you lose any
interactivity/multimedia capability.
A possible way to improve the situation is to use anti-aliasing.
Take a look at GS Corp's web page for a comparison of TIFF images
before and after anti-aliasing. It can make a LOT of difference:
http://www.gscorp.com/
I hope this was helpful. If you have any questions, please do not
hesitate to send me NeXTMail. Glad you are using NEXTSTEP :-)
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC & Netscape
Date: 22 Mar 1996 09:41:10 GMT
Organization: International Turnkey Systems
Message-ID: <4itsjm$1di@info.itsq8.com>
Did anyone try SoftPC on NS3.3 & Netscape? Does it run ok?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jpanico@netcom.com (Joe Panico)
Subject: Inexpensive FAX software for Intel?
Message-ID: <jpanicoDooBKr.BK6@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:43:39 GMT
Sender: jpanico@netcom.netcom.com
Does it exist for 3.3 Intel?
Any suggestions appreciated.
--
Joe Panico
NeXTStep/OpenStep Developer
BLaCKSMITH Inc.
jpanico@netcom.com
/* Please no NeXTMail, I can't read it at this address */
From: Bryan Pearce <deneb@interaccess.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Music Editing Software
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 09:19:45 -0600
Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet Service Provider
Message-ID: <3152C511.7D5A@interaccess.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have been talking with a number of people lately that tell me that
NeXT is an excellent machine for sound and music. I have a NeXT Cube
with a CD-ROM and I am looking for a way to record music into the NeXT
from the CD-ROM and then edit the music. I figure I should then be
able to send the sound output to my stereo and record the mixed music
to a cassette tape.
Any information would be greatly appreciated. My access to this list
is limited, so please respond to (deneb@interaccess.com). I will then
summarize the responses I received for the newsgroup.
Thanks Much!
Bryan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: Enhanced CUSeeMe?
Message-ID: <Doo0q3.nH@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <DoMABG.4wD@interpc.de>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:49:15 GMT
In article <DoMABG.4wD@interpc.de> jgloede@interpc.de (Jens Ch.
Gloede) writes:
> jpmeia@netcom.com writes
> > Does anyone know of a port of WhitePine's Enhanced CuSeeMe
> > video conferencing software?
> >
> Tell me more about the ISDN-board driver you want to use
> for that?!?
Doesn't it simply work over TCP/IP? In this case you could use a
router.
Michael
--
Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen,
Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 (neue Rufnummer!)
Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
PGP : Public Key on demand
From: par@MCS.COM (Peter Richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with event loops
Date: 22 Mar 1996 11:08:12 -0600
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <4iumps$7rb@Mercury.mcs.com>
I have a background task process that I have written. It worked
ok until I wanted to receive back unsolicited DO messages. Then
I followed the example in NeXT.Answers to add an event loop to
allow this to work. And it works!!
The problem is that it uses every available CPU cycle to keep
checking the status of the event queue. Is there a better
way of doing this?
Thanks for any help
Peter Richardson
From: jblencoe@blencoe.chem.ornl.gov (James G. Blencoe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: A High-Quality News Reader
Date: 22 Mar 1996 18:18:17 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4iuqt9$qjd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
I run NEXTSTEP on a Pentium 120 I bought from Bifrost
Workstations. I want to acquire a news reader to use in lieu of
NewsGrazer. I'm willing to pay a reasonable sum of money for a
high-quality, easy-to-use product. What news reader should I get? Thanks
in advance to those who are willing to give me some advice.
Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu
Subject: enscription routine
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Message-ID: <960322095633.3389AAFgE.wayne@keizai2>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 17:56:33 GMT
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Organization: Washington State University
I need an easy to use enscription program that can secure my backup files.
Ideally, I would like to have it callable from a C-shell routine that:
tar's by hard disk to another hard disk
compresses the tar file
enscripts the tar.Z file for security
Can someone point me to such a facility for NeXT Intel
Thanks,
Wayne Joerding
Professor of Economics Ofc: 509-335-6468
Washington State University email: joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu
Pullman WA 99164
From: mpaque@pbinet.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tiff-decompression on sgi-indy
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:39:27 GMT
Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services
Message-ID: <4iuvr4$dfl@SNFC21_SRVR_WWW.PBI.net>
References: <4imo1n$i21@news.Austria.EU.net>
rigler@schullin.co.at (Wolfgang Rigler) wrote:
>Has anyone a program or source-code for the NEXTSTEP-TIFF-DECOMPRESSION, so a
>small "NEXT-TIFF-Viewer" can be written on sgi ?
Look around for the libtiff library and utilities package.
This was pulled together by Sam Leffler with contributions from a
bunch of other folks in the computer graphics community, and can
handle more TIFF formats than anything else I've run across.
The JPEG TIFF compression format is not exclusive to NeXT. You might
ask in the comp.sys.sgi groups. Someone probably already has a JPEG
TIFF viewerbuilt and ready to use.
Mike Paquette
I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me.
mpaque@pbinet.com Personal E-mail
mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PopOver: Mail Retrieval Defaults and Behavior
Date: 22 Mar 1996 21:11:55 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4iv52r$dan@news.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <4gqnic$93u@news.accessone.com>
Can somebody mail me a URL for PopOver?
Are there any other POP enablers for NEXTSTEP?
This is related to my other question just posted to this group. Sorry for
not reading first.
Thanks,
Roland
From: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@umich.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: POP mail for NEXTSTEP
Date: 22 Mar 1996 21:10:17 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4iv4vp$d6q@news.eecs.umich.edu>
Is there any way to read mail on NEXTSTEP from a remote server via POP
protocol?
For example, are there any POP mail clients or are there any POP enablers
for NeXT Mail?
Thanks,
Roland
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From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Date: 22 Mar 1996 14:58:51 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4iuf7b$5rc@news.its.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311152719.10579C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4i9g4k$eda@news.its.com> <Pine.NXT.3.91.960319131046.9470f-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
>> gsplit -b 1300k _file.tar.gz_ /tmp/part
>>
>> C'mon, Tim-- GNU split has both a thorough manpage and it responds
>> to --help. RTFM a little.
>
> yeah and I read them both, but what I was doing wasn't working. No
> matter what flags I gave the chunks came out as .234 megs.
What in the world were you doing?
> Man pages are great as references for people who know how something works
> but have forgotten it momentarily. They are bad for trying to learn,
> especially for people who don't speak the language (UNIX, that is).
Let's see:
% split --help
Usage: split [OPTION] [INPUT [PREFIX]]
-C, --line-bytes=SIZE put at most SIZE bytes of lines per output file
-b, --bytes=SIZE put SIZE bytes per output file
-l, --lines=NUMBER put NUMBER lines per output file
-NUMBER same as -l NUMBER
--help display this help and exit
--version output version information and exit
SIZE may have a multiplier suffix: b for 512, k for 1K, m for 1 Meg.
With no PREFIX, use x. With no INPUT, or when INPUT is -, read
standard input.
###
That looks like English to me. Split isn't a complicated command; it has all
of 5 switches. --help you say you've read and --version should be obvious.
That leaves 3 switches left, and two of them (-C, -b) will do what you want,
more or less.
Since it should have taken a grand total of under one minute to experiment
with the 3 remaining options and get things right, I don't think I was being
unreasonable to suggest that you should RTFM.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OneVision English version
Date: 22 Mar 1996 22:01:48 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Message-ID: <4iv80c$l04@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
References: <DoL0v9.3BL@hurka.UUCP> <4iq206$pp1@usc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4iq206$pp1@usc.edu>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
On 03/20/96, Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
>In <DoL0v9.3BL@hurka.UUCP> Tomas Hurka wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> friend of mine is interested in the English version of OneVision.
I received their CD a while ago:
OneVision
Integrated PrePress Software
version 2.5 10/95
On this CD you find:
- OneVision
- CMYKAdjust
- NEXTSTEP 3.3 Drivers
- Apps
- ThirdParty Software
Looks like a very extensive and high-end product. The address on the
back of the CD is:
OneVision GmbH
Florian-Seidl-Str. 11
D-93053 Regensburg
Germany
Telefon: ++49-941-700 344
Telefax: ++49-941-700 516
E-Mail: dialog@OneVision.de
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: mrozek@eecs.umich.edu (Eric M. Mrozek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Music Editing Software
Date: 22 Mar 1996 22:04:50 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS
Message-ID: <4iv862$frd@news.eecs.umich.edu>
References: <3152C511.7D5A@interaccess.com>
In article <3152C511.7D5A@interaccess.com> Bryan Pearce
<deneb@interaccess.com> writes:
> Any information would be greatly appreciated. My access to this list
> is limited, so please respond to (deneb@interaccess.com). I will then
> summarize the responses I received for the newsgroup.
There's a list of sound and music programs for NeXTStep at:
http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~mrozek/nextmusic/NxtSndMusProgs.html
ftp://ftp.eecs.umich.edu/pub/nextmusic/FAQ.NxtSndMusProgs3.5.html
Eric (your friendly NextMusic administrator)
From: speedie@community.net (Mike)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Print Shop Deluxe CD-Rom ONLY $15
Date: 22 Mar 1996 23:06:41 GMT
Organization: Your Organization
Message-ID: <4ivbq1$pir@oracle.damerica.net>
Hi, I have a few Print Shop Deluxe Ensemble 2 CD-ROMS I'd like to sell for only $15.
They are used but they work great! The CD's come with about 7,000 clip art images. That's worth the $15 right there! If you're interested please e-mail me
Thanks,
Mike
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: enscription routine
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:56:23 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960322145149.4965A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <960322095633.3389AAFgE.wayne@keizai2>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <960322095633.3389AAFgE.wayne@keizai2>
On Fri, 22 Mar 1996 joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu wrote:
> I need an easy to use enscription program that can secure my backup files.
> Ideally, I would like to have it callable from a C-shell routine that:
> tar's by hard disk to another hard disk
> compresses the tar file
> enscripts the tar.Z file for security
>
> Can someone point me to such a facility for NeXT Intel
I am almost willing to bet that you mean 'encrypt' rather than enscript
This is enscript:
enscript (1) - convert text files to POSTSCRIPT format for printing
If you want to encrypt the files, I'd suggest you use pgp for max
security. The only danger is what if your HD fails and with it your
private key dies? Make sure you backup all the keys as well.
Read the man page entries on 'single key encryption'.
Or, for a little less security, use the generic 'crypt' found in /usr/bin.
TjL
ps -- where you can get PGP depends on where you are located in the world.
--
Timothy J. Luoma
<luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info available via email!
Send message with SUBJECT 'send info'
From: osg@onramp.net (Glenda )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Good job/Great company
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 01:20:46 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4ivcj7$juk@news.onramp.net>
NeXT DEVELOPERS
OSG (Object Systems Group) is a technology-based consultancy that
provides assistance to Global 1000 corporations in new and emerging
technologies. We currently have multiple opening in the N.E. for
someone with the following experience:
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Minimum 2+ years total experience with extensive NeXTStep, AppKit,
DBKit and Objective C.
Send resume to osg@onramp.net , US mail your resume to Object Systems
Group, Inc., Attn: Glenda Maddox, 3048 Infomart, 1950 Stemmons
Freeway, Dallas, Tx. 75207, or fax to 214 742-5847.
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing WriteNopw files with 3.3
Date: 21 Mar 1996 21:15:58 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <4isgue$29t@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <314D4FB7.7FF6@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
In article <314D4FB7.7FF6@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Paul WINDEY
<windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr> writes:
|>Does anyone know if it is still possible (and if yes HOW?) to print
|>WriteNow files with NeXTStep 3.3?
|>Everything seems to work fine (opening files, saving them etc) but for
|>printing.
|>Please answer also directly by mail to address below.
|>--
|>Paul Windey,
|>
|>LPTHE
|>Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI)
|>Bte 126
|>4pl Jussieu
|>F-75252 Paris CEDEX 05, FRANCE
|>
|>e-mail: windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr
|>tel: 33-1-4427 7456 (Secretariat: 4427 4121)
|>FAX: 33-1-4427 7088
Hi,
My WriteNow 2.1 prints just fine under NS3.3, BlackWare.
Anything special about your system that could cause it not to????
Best regards
Michael
--
___________________________________________________________
Michael Hallin Copenhagen, Denmark
Editor in chief of DANNUG NEWS & DANNUG HOT!
ColorProduct Manager Rank Xerox Denmark
NeXTMail: work@dannug.dk
NonNeXTMail: mh.xeroxvang@rxdk.xerox.com
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A High-Quality News Reader
Date: 23 Mar 1996 00:57:27 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-05.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ivi9n$cjo@usc.edu>
References: <4iuqt9$qjd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
In <4iuqt9$qjd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> James G. Blencoe wrote:
> I run NEXTSTEP on a Pentium 120 I bought from Bifrost
> Workstations. I want to acquire a news reader to use in lieu of
> NewsGrazer. I'm willing to pay a reasonable sum of money for a
> high-quality, easy-to-use product. What news reader should I get? Thanks
> in advance to those who are willing to give me some advice.
There's:
Free:
RadicalNews
Alexander
Commercial:
NewsFlash
My reader of choice is RadicalNews - I love the app and the people behind it.
It's free and has great UI and responsiveness from its makers.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: enscription routine
Date: 23 Mar 1996 03:45:39 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ivs53$rv0@news.its.com>
References: <960322095633.3389AAFgE.wayne@keizai2>
joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu wrote:
> I need an easy to use enscription program that can secure my backup files.
> Ideally, I would like to have it callable from a C-shell routine that:
> tar's by hard disk to another hard disk
> compresses the tar file
> enscripts the tar.Z file for security
>
> Can someone point me to such a facility for NeXT Intel
"encrypts", perhaps? Try:
gnutar zcf - _hard_drive_mountpoint_ | crypt _passwd_ > _backup_file_
Note that _hard_drive_mountpoint_ *cannot* be "/".
(Or you could use "gnutar Zcf" if you really wanted to use compress instead
of gzip, but gzip generally compresses better.)
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Recordable CD on NeXT?
Date: 23 Mar 1996 01:59:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <4ivlup$32u@news.service.uci.edu>
I posted this a couple of months ago but did not get any replies except
for requests for any replies I might have got.
I just borrowed a Pinnacle Micro 1000 CDR drive, and tried it on my Next
mono. First of all, it reads a CD alright. But when I put in a blank CD
and tried to click init button to initialize it as a Next file system, it
came up with the following messages on the console:
/usr/etc/disk -i -h jedi.eng.uci.edu -l "Backup" /dev/rsd1a
NOTE: This device's block size (2048) is too big to coerce to DEV_BSIZE
(1024).
You won't be able to use it with software versions earlier than Release
3.0.
sd1 (3,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0
sd1 (3,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24
SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
disk name: PINNACLERCD-1000
disk type: removable_rw_scsi
writing disk label
sd2 (3,1): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:2 scsi status:0x0
sd2 (3,1): ERROR op:0x0 sd_state:2 scsi status:0x0
boot block extends beyond front porch
Then, it ejects the CD and complains that it can not format it.
When I reinsert the CD, it automatically ejects it and complains on the
console:
Disk Label: Backup
Disk Capacity 0MB, Device Block 2048 bytes
Disk Label: Backup
Disk Capacity 0MB, Device Block 2048 bytes
I realize I must have junked the CD by now since we can only write it
once.
Would sdformat work? We can use
sdformat -i3 -b2048 -f
to force it to 2048 block.
I'd appreciate if anybody who has any experience with CDRs pass any
information.
Thank you in advance.
--
Feng Liu, Assistant Professor
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717-3975
phone: 714-824-3105, or 714-824-5406(MAE Department)
Fax: 714-824-3105, or 714-824-8585(MAE Department)
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Interesting files in OmniWeb. . .
Date: 23 Mar 1996 03:48:24 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ivsa8$rv0@news.its.com>
References: <7xu3zkydsv.fsf@burrow.muc.de>
markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de> wrote:
> And since I don't want to ask only stupid questions: how do I cache
> pages (images) for ever (eg. from my favorite search engines)?
You run a caching proxy server.
Look at http://harvest.cs.colorado.edu/, for example...
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: truong@phoenix.net (Tuan Truong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A High-Quality News Reader
Date: 23 Mar 1996 07:23:07 GMT
Message-ID: <4j08sr$8sl@gryphon.phoenix.net>
References: <4iuqt9$qjd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
In-Reply-To: <4iuqt9$qjd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
+--On 03/22/96, James G. Blencoe wrote:
| I run NEXTSTEP on a Pentium 120 I bought from
| Bifrost Workstations. I want to acquire a news reader to
| use in lieu of NewsGrazer. I'm willing to pay a
| reasonable sum of money for a high-quality, easy-to-use
| product. What news reader should I get?
|
For my style, NewsFlash from Wolfware is the most comfortable. I
can reduce the newsreader to just the newsgroup article listing
and the article itself. And NewsFlash is fast and has
multithreaded downloads of binaries. I also think it provides the
most information about articles in article listings such as line
length or article size as well as dates, authors, subject, etc.,
all in an orderly fashion.
http://www.wolfware.com/
There is also a plethora you can try along with NewsFlash such as
RadicalNews and Alexandra. All three can be found at
next-ftp.peak.org
-Tuan
--
(NeXTmail friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu
Subject: WWW server
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Message-ID: <960321163558.2379AAFgF.wayne@keizai2>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 00:35:58 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Organization: Washington State University
I am thinking of starting a www server for my students on my old
NextStation.
Can someone recommend the easiest and best free server, in that order.
I am aware of the NCSA and the Apache servers.
Thanks,
Wayne Joerding
Professor of Economics Ofc: 509-335-6468
Washington State University email: joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu
Pullman WA 99164
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A High-Quality News Reader
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 12:01:17 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960323115702.10972N-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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There's also Netsurfer, which (I think) has a very nice GUI.
check out:
ftp://ftp.netsurfer.com/pub/next/Netsurfer/
The only problem is that if you aren't '@somewhere.edu' then single user
licenses are $195, which is way beyond unreasonable, IMNSHO.
TjL
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: POP mail for NEXTSTEP
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 12:03:27 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960323120238.10972O-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4iv4vp$d6q@news.eecs.umich.edu>
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On 22 Mar 1996, Roland Telfeyan wrote:
> Is there any way to read mail on NEXTSTEP from a remote server via POP
> protocol?
>
> For example, are there any POP mail clients or are there any POP enablers
> for NeXT Mail?
yes, there is at least one very good one...
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/mail/PopOver.v1.4.NIHS.bd.tar.gz
TjL
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>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 12:25:26 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960323120428.10972P-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311152719.10579C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4i9g4k$eda@news.its.com> <Pine.NXT.3.91.960319131046.9470f-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4iuf7b$5rc@news.its.com>
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On 22 Mar 1996, Chuck Swiger wrote:
[ so far we have 1) selections from Chuck's former post, 2) my reply to
that, and then 3) Chuck's reply from today ]
> >> C'mon, Tim-- GNU split has both a thorough manpage and it responds
> >> to --help. RTFM a little.
> >
> > yeah and I read them both, but what I was doing wasn't working. No
> > matter what flags I gave the chunks came out as .234 megs.
>
> What in the world were you doing?
I don't know, I was obviously doing something wrong, which is why I
posted, asking for help, indicating that I had tried to use 'split' and
hadn't had any luck. You then indicated that I should RTFM, thus implying
that I had not already done so and had just asked the newsgroup rather
than try and figure it out myself.
Here's what really happened:
I am at home at my not-connected-to-the-net NeXT, trying to get a file
larger than 1.4megs onto a floppy disk. I check out 'man -k split' and
learn that there's a binary called 'split' on my NeXT (put there before I
inherited the machine). I read the '--help' and try and use it, and no
matter what flags I come up with, I get chunks of .234 mb. After trying
this for about 15 minutes, I give up, and write a post asking for
help/suggestions on other ways of doing this. Since my NeXT is not hooked
up to the 'net, I then save my post to a floppy disk, then go to the
campus computer lab, login, launch Windows, telnet here, launch PINE, copy
and paste my post from home into PINE, and send my message along to the
newsgroup.
It is roughly at this point that you tell me I should have RTFM rather
than bothering the nice people at csn-software.
Of course, others have taken the opportunity to show me the correct
syntax, and 2 people sent me binaries they had created to do this. One
person actually sent me a NeXTStep application to do this.
> > Man pages are great as references for people who know how something works
> > but have forgotten it momentarily. They are bad for trying to learn,
> > especially for people who don't speak the language (UNIX, that is).
>
> Let's see:
[ split --help output deleted ]
> Since it should have taken a grand total of under one minute to experiment
> with the 3 remaining options and get things right, I don't think I was being
> unreasonable to suggest that you should RTFM.
key phrase there: "should have taken"
I know it "should have taken" less time, but it didn't. It took much
longer, and I still couldn't get it right.
The 'split --help' that you showed is different than the 'split --help' on
my NeXT, I must have an older version. Perhaps that explains why I was
having trouble.
When you say RTFM you imply that I posted to the newsgroup rather than
take the time to try and figure it out myself. Given the steps I had to
go through to post my question, I hope you realize how foolish it would be
for me to not try and figure this out myself.
If you thought my post was a waste of time, why bother replying to it
(especially when others had already done so, offering the correct syntax)?
And if you were going to reply to it, why not just offer the answer rather
than the self-righteousness of a 'RTFM' (especially when I had indicated
in my post that I HAD RTFM alredy)?
Shall we continue this overlong discussion about a short question which
only required a short response, or shall we move on to some better use of
bandwidth?
your call.
TjL
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>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: seeking advice on postscript files to TIFF or PICT files
Message-ID: <4j11gnINN7h4@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
From: bob@monet.dt.navy.mil
Date: 23 Mar 1996 14:23:19 GMT
Organization: "CARDEROCKDIV CDNSWC"
Hello
Looking for an effective method within the NEXTSTEP environment of generating
high resolution TIFF and / or PICT files from .ps / .eps files ( the output
TIFF or PICT file should be in the range of 100+ DPI ) - any and all help /
advice most welcome - thanks for looking this over
Bob K.
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From: gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de (Gerald Wildgruber)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.7.5 on NS FIP cannot send out of my domain.
Date: 23 Mar 1996 20:08:09 +0100
Organization: Apatheia Corp.
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References: <960320120358.352AAEYJ.pmt@a22459>
<315129CC.36B2@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
In-reply-to: "Eric A. Dubiel"'s message of Thu, 21 Mar 1996 04:05:00 -0600
In article <315129CC.36B2@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> writes:
I don't know enough about sendmail either- I cannot even get it to send ANY MAIL in
NEXTSTEP 3.3, (other TCP/IP services do work)....I get this 550 Host unknown
(Authoritative answer from name server):
error...
Can anyone help?
I have exactly the same problem (same hardware, same version); every mail
bounces.
Gerald.
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welcome)
From: droux@nmia.com (Nicolas Droux)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: enscription routine
Date: 23 Mar 1996 20:25:46 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Internet Access
Message-ID: <4j1moa$3j9@thales.nmia.com>
References: <960322095633.3389AAFgE.wayne@keizai2>
joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu wrote:
>I need an easy to use enscription program that can secure my backup files.
>Ideally, I would like to have it callable from a C-shell routine that:
> tar's by hard disk to another hard disk
> compresses the tar file
> enscripts the tar.Z file for security
You should try PGP for the encryption part. It works fine under NEXTSTEP. See
http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html
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From: tgl@netcom.com (Tom Lane)
Subject: Re: tiff-decompression on sgi-indy
Message-ID: <TGL.96Mar23105042@netcom12.netcom.com>
Sender: tgl@netcom12.netcom.com
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services
References: <4imo1n$i21@news.Austria.EU.net> <4iuvr4$dfl@SNFC21_SRVR_WWW.PBI.net>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 18:50:42 GMT
mpaque@pbinet.com (Mike Paquette) writes:
> rigler@schullin.co.at (Wolfgang Rigler) wrote:
>> Has anyone a program or source-code for the NEXTSTEP-TIFF-DECOMPRESSION,
>> so a small "NEXT-TIFF-Viewer" can be written on sgi ?
> Look around for the libtiff library and utilities package.
> ...
> The JPEG TIFF compression format is not exclusive to NeXT.
Unfortunately, yes it is, and libtiff doesn't support it.
NeXT is practically the only major user of the original TIFF 6.0
JPEG-in-TIFF specification. It turns out that that design was a
very bad one, and it's been replaced by a different, incompatible
JPEG-in-TIFF spec defined by TIFF Tech Note #2. (If you want to
know why it was so bad, read the tech note, which you can find at
ftp.sgi.com:/graphics/tiff/ or ftp.uu.net:/graphics/jpeg/.)
What libtiff implements is the Tech Note design, so you can't use it
to read NeXT JPEG TIFFs. To the extent that other software supports
JPEG-in-TIFF at all, it's more likely to use the new design.
This leaves NeXT users high and dry, I'm afraid. Perhaps someday
NeXT will support the newer flavor and will provide a simple
conversion method to get from old to new TIFF JPEGs.
regards, tom lane
organizer, Independent JPEG Group
member, TIFF Advisory Committee
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.7.5 on NS FIP cannot send out of my domain.
Date: 24 Mar 1996 00:01:04 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-12.usc.edu
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4j23c0$hds@usc.edu>
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<x768bv7hly.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
In <x768bv7hly.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> Gerald Wildgruber
wrote:
> In article <315129CC.36B2@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel"
<eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> writes:
>
> I don't know enough about sendmail either- I cannot even get it to send
ANY MAIL in
> NEXTSTEP 3.3, (other TCP/IP services do work)....I get this 550 Host
unknown
> (Authoritative answer from name server):
> error...
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> I have exactly the same problem (same hardware, same version); every mail
> bounces.
Please post more specific sendmail and system configuration details (i.e. how
are you connected to net, what version of sendmail, what cf file you're
using,etc.).
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From: markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de>
Subject: Re: Interesting files in OmniWeb. . .
In-Reply-To: Joe Reiss's message of 20 Mar 1996 08:27:28 -0500
Message-ID: <7x4trfpb4u.fsf@burrow.muc.de>
To: jreiss@vt.edu
Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de
Organization: hardly any...
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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:50:41 GMT
>>>>> "JR" == Joe Reiss <jreiss@vt.edu> writes:
JR> As for making images so they don't expire, have you tried
JR> entering the string "NeverExpire" for the expiration time in
JR> the cache preferences panel?
that's not what i want. i don't want to cache ALL images, i'd just
like to cache those of certain sites. i wouldn't mind having to put
them in the right place myself (i.e. where OmniWeb looks for cached
images) but where would that be?
markus g
p.s.: my newsfeed seems to be very slow right now. don't wonder if i
react 4 days later to any posts.
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From: pluckebaum@valleynet.com (Phil Pluckebaum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Good Newsgroup Software? Does it exist?
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 02:22:48 GMT
Organization: ValleyNet Communications
Message-ID: <3154b175.33945428@news.valleynet.com>
I'm currently using Agent .99 with little satisfaction. What are you
using? Is it good? I'm especially looking for software with cross
posting ability and other quality features. Please help me.
pluckebaum@valleynet.com
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: mouse movement tools ?
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 06:13:41 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Mar24.061341.3270@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <3151150D.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
In article <3151150D.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Stefan Ried
<ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> writes:
> some times ago I've read an announce for an alternative mouse pointer
driver or a
> tool.
You are probably thinking of MouseMagic. Announcement at:
http://www.plsys.co.uk/products/MouseMagic.Announce.htmld/index.html
> It promised that the mouse feeling and acceleration is just the same as
in
> MS-Windows. The way the mouse pointer is reacting esp. with big screens
is a bit
> strange for former MS-Windows Users.
>
> Is this tool raelly doing that ?
That is one of the alternative setups. You can also force consistent
mouse response between different systems, so that if you use NeXTSTEP on
both Intel and SPARC machines, the response is the same.
> Where can I get it ?
ftp://ftp.plsys.co.uk/pub/MouseMagic/MouseMagic.pkg.tar.gz
Paul
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From: Donny W Chilla <dogger@earthlink.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking to buy NeXT Step Softwear for 486
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 01:43:09 -0800
Organization: HSE
Message-ID: <3153C7AD.4AB5@earthlink.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I would like to buy a version of next step for my 486 pc
if you have a cd for sale mail me back!
Thanx!
Donny C.
From: alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: getty or init hangs on login
Date: 23 Mar 1996 08:40:55 GMT
Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services
Message-ID: <4j0den$3ok@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Keywords: getty,init,ppp
Hello all. I have been plugging away with SJ Perkins PPP but have
recently ran into a snag. I recently upgraded my modems to v34 and now
have a problem (a coincidence I think). I think the problem resides
somewhere after init or getty is going. I may have clobbered a file when
the system crashed due to dirty modem signals (had phone line trouble
too). In any case here is what is happening. When I try to come in over
the modem I get:
CARRIER 28800
PROTOCOL: LAP-M
CONNECT 38400
NeXT / NXFax (osci) (ttydfb)
osci login: alan
P8^w'dw
Where the password prompt becomes garbage and the login hangs at this
point. I have tried reinstalling PPP (0.4.6), the serial port drivers,
port server, and NXFax. I have also tried a different serial port card, I
even upgraded the system bios, all to no avail. So I guess the problem is
not with PPP, hardware, or drivers. It must be somewhere in the process
of opening a terminal. All tips are appreciated.
---
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: something like LexiRom ???
Message-ID: <DoMqss.Mn@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <3150186F.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:17:15 GMT
Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> writes
> Is there a program available for NextStep that offers
> the following informations
> (similar to the CD-ROM 'LexiRom' by Megasoft
> for MS Windows):
A related question:
Is the lecirom format known and documented, so it was possible to write own
software to use the information on the lexirom?
Juergen
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From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: enscription routine
Date: 24 Mar 1996 16:28:45 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Message-ID: <4j3t7t$1r6o@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <960322095633.3389AAFgE.wayne@keizai2> <4ivs53$rv0@news.its.com>
Chuck Swiger (chuck@its.com) wrote:
: "encrypts", perhaps? Try:
:
: gnutar zcf - _hard_drive_mountpoint_ | crypt _passwd_ > _backup_file_
:
: Note that _hard_drive_mountpoint_ *cannot* be "/".
But with one more option it can. From 'gnutar --help'
"-l, --one-file-system stay in local file system when creating an archive"
I would rather worry about having "_backup_file_" on the same file system
on which we operate and/or using something stronger than 'crypt'.
--mj
From: "Tony \"Chow\" Chow" <greenboy@ucla.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help on PPP 2.2!!
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 02:03:37 -0800
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <31566F79.3DFB@ucla.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
My Internet service provider requires that after the call is picked up,
I type in the login id and password manually through a terminal, and
then type a command at the command prompt. How do I configure PPP to
handle this? Right now the thing connects alright but I can't login!
Here's my pppup file:
exec /usr/local/ppp/bin/pppd bsdcomp 10,10 lcp-echo-interval 15 \
lcp-echo-failure 5 crtscts defaultroute debug modem -pap -chap \
connect '/usr/local/ppp/bin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/chat.script' \
/dev/cufb 38400 lock
I'd appreciate any response!
From: tm8025a@american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help on PPP 2.2!!
Date: 25 Mar 1996 04:39:19 GMT
Organization: American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <4j581n$i3i@paladin.american.edu>
References: <31566F79.3DFB@ucla.edu>
In <31566F79.3DFB@ucla.edu> "Tony "Chow" Chow" wrote:
> My Internet service provider requires that after the call is picked up,
> I type in the login id and password manually through a terminal, and
> then type a command at the command prompt. How do I configure PPP to
> handle this? Right now the thing connects alright but I can't login!
Set up your chat file to put in the password and ID. Then again if you mean
your IP provider will not let you do that, (i.e. some security rule) then you
could probably use GateKeepers manual option. Check the docs for more info on
that specific option as I never really have used it.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: OneVision English version
Message-ID: <DortoG.Mn@onevision.de>
Sender: news@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <4iq206$pp1@usc.edu>
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 12:07:27 GMT
In article <4iq206$pp1@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N.
Reichman) writes:
> In <DoL0v9.3BL@hurka.UUCP> Tomas Hurka wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > friend of mine is interested in the English version of OneVision. I
> > remember that there was a discussion about demo CD with OneVision,
but I
> > did not have any details. Can someone write me where I (or he) can
get
> > such CD?
>
>
> Talk to them direct :
>
> onevision.de!hans@relay.xlink.net
Hi!
Please do not use the above adress since this is the broken form that
our provider makes...
use hans@onevision.de or better
info@onevision.de
Thanks
======================================================================
Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH
Support Florian-Seidl-Strasse 11
Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg
(NeXTMail and MIME welcome) Germany
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Date: 25 Mar 1996 06:07:54 GMT
Organization: Sense Networking Seattle (www.oz.net)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4j5d7q$kha@emerald.oz.net>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311152719.10579C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4i9g4k$eda@news.its.com> <Pine.NXT.3.91.960319131046.9470f-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
> On 14 Mar 1996, Chuck Swiger wrote:
>
> > "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> > > What is the best/easiest way to break up large files? Specifically
> > > .tar.gz files.
> >
> > GNU split.
>
Why bother?
% /NextAdmin/Installer.app/chunk
Usage: chunk chunk_size [+first_chunk_pad] filename [dest_dir]
chunk works fine for binary files.
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From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: getty or init hangs on login
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:07:00 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Mar25.080700.6702@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4j0den$3ok@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
In article <4j0den$3ok@hydra.acs.ttu.edu> alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A.
Barhorst) writes:
> NeXT / NXFax (osci) (ttydfb)
>
>
> osci login: alan
> P8^w'dw
I have a system that is doing the same. If I connect to it with tip,
regardless of the parity option I set, it shows the password prompt as
above.
However, I have found that if I remove the password on the PPP account, my
PPP chat script connects correctly. It is only the password prompt (and
subsequent processing) that has a problem.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Interesting files in OmniWeb. . .
Date: 25 Mar 1996 09:58:27 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4lcmf9.gr.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <7xu3zkydsv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> <x5ivfzvqrj.fsf@localhost.vt.edu> <7x4trfpb4u.fsf@burrow.muc.de>
On Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:50:41 GMT, markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de> wrote:
> that's not what i want. i don't want to cache ALL images, i'd just
> like to cache those of certain sites. i wouldn't mind having to put
> them in the right place myself (i.e. where OmniWeb looks for cached
> images) but where would that be?
I believe it's in RAM, so putting the desired files there is impossible
(except through loading them in a web page). OW's cache controls don't
allow the kind of control you want (per-site or per-image cache controls
don't exist in OW as far as I've seen). I'd like to set a cache size limit
in a file (or across files) of my choosing, but OW's cache controls don't
allow that either.
I think the best you'll be able to do is make a home page with the images
you want to cache and set the cache to some amount of time that is long
enough to prevent re-loading. Hopefully, you won't hit a site with a lot of
data to cache (bringing on a system crash).
From: gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de (Gerald Wildgruber)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.7.5 on NS FIP cannot send out of my domain.
Date: 25 Mar 1996 11:27:45 +0100
Organization: Apatheia Corp.
Sender: gewil@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <x77mw91n8e.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <960320120358.352AAEYJ.pmt@a22459>
<315129CC.36B2@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
<x768bv7hly.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
<4j23c0$hds@usc.edu>
In-reply-to: reichman@scf.usc.edu's message of 24 Mar 1996 00:01:04 GMT
In article <4j23c0$hds@usc.edu> reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) writes:
> Please post more specific sendmail and system configuration details (i.e. how
> are you connected to net, what version of sendmail, what cf file you're
> using,etc.).
System configuration: I'm running NSfIP 3.3 , the problems occured only
after having applied the 3.3 patches (User and Developper)
Internet: This is a standalone machine connencted to the Internet via
serial line ppp; there is an ethernet adapter, yet now unused.
sendmail: I've never changed or upgraded sendmail (that is, I didn't
replace it with the new packages provided be R. La Ferla), so it is still
the version shipped with NS 3.3 which is running on my machine; there are
two files apparently in use for sendmail configuration,
sendmail.mailhost.cf the file linked to by "sendmail.cf", and
sendmail.subsidiary.cf
both residing in /etc/sendmail, version numbers DVNX3.0M and DVNX3.0S
respectively.
Gerald.
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gewil@ue801be.ppp. once he starts really
lrz-muenchen.de listening. - John Cage
(NeXTMail and MIME
welcome)
From: edwintam@webhk.com (Edwin TAM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Possible ? Read Japanese on 3.3
Date: 25 Mar 1996 09:37:59 GMT
Message-ID: <4j5phn$qt1@hkt001.hkt.net>
Dear dear,
Is it possible to display Japanese characters on (English) 3.3 ??
I need it for OmniWeb to browse the Japanese sites.
Any pointers appreciated very much,
(Let's hope that the price for NS4.0J will not be as steep...)
Edwin TAM
edwintam@webhk.com
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How do you create progressive jpegs?
Date: 25 Mar 1996 09:15:56 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-j-26.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4j5o8c$c86@usc.edu>
How do you create progressive jpegs?
I've got TIFFanyII, WetPaint, and PixelMagician to work with.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
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From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Converting NeXTSTEP tiffs to Windows BMP or ICO
Date: 25 Mar 1996 09:29:54 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University
Message-ID: <4j5p2i$f30@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <DoMxq9.5GJ@trapac.com>
Karl Kraft (karl@trapac.com) wrote:
: I've had a number of icons created for a clients internal NeXTSTEP
: applications. Now the head of the company has come to me and asked
: about converting them to be used in some other programs in the
: company. These programs are based on Visual Basic and Microsoft
: access, and run under Windows (perhaps Widnows NT). Is there any
: program out there that will perform this translation? It does not
: matter whether it's a windows or NeXTSTEP application.
IMO the pbmplus / netpbm toolset is the most robust in translating
NeXT Tiffs into something else. BMP is no problem. But you can also
use a PC app like PaintShop Pro for example. But better check if it
handles your icons well.
Willem
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 14:32:09 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960325142636.15587E-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311152719.10579C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4i9g4k$eda@news.its.com> <Pine.NXT.3.91.960319131046.9470f-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4iuf7b$5rc@news.its.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960323120428.10972P-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960323120428.10972P-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
On Sat, 23 Mar 1996, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:
> On 22 Mar 1996, Chuck Swiger wrote:
>
> [ so far we have 1) selections from Chuck's former post, 2) my reply to
> that, and then 3) Chuck's reply from today ]
>
> > >> C'mon, Tim-- GNU split has both a thorough manpage and it responds
> > >> to --help. RTFM a little.
> > >
> > > yeah and I read them both, but what I was doing wasn't working. No
> > > matter what flags I gave the chunks came out as .234 megs.
> >
> > What in the world were you doing?
>
> I don't know, I was obviously doing something wrong, which is why I
> posted, asking for help, indicating that I had tried to use 'split' and
> hadn't had any luck. You then indicated that I should RTFM, thus implying
> that I had not already done so and had just asked the newsgroup rather
> than try and figure it out myself.
>
> Here's what really happened:
> I am at home at my not-connected-to-the-net NeXT, trying to get a file
> larger than 1.4megs onto a floppy disk. I check out 'man -k split' and
> learn that there's a binary called 'split' on my NeXT (put there before I
> inherited the machine). I read the '--help' and try and use it, and no
> matter what flags I come up with, I get chunks of .234 mb. After trying
Nothing to bother!
Here is the error: Chuck was talking about GNU-Split!!!!
Tim was talking about split coming with NEXTSTEP.
It isn't a good choice to tell somebody to RTFM if he doesn't own the
tool! Standard split coming with NEXTSTEP isn't GNU-split and can't split
in binary junks. So one choice is to tell him how and where to get
GNU-split (noticeable the binary, because he may not own a compiler to
get the sourcecode working) or to tell him another possibility.
Greetings,
Boerny.
From: babou@snow.drepou.peuf (Surfeur Celeste)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Samba problem ?
Date: 25 Mar 1996 12:44:46 GMT
Organization: INT (Evry - France)
Message-ID: <4j64fu$k7i@babylone.int-evry.fr>
I've just compiled Samba on Nextstep.
When i share some files from my IDE disk it sounds ok but when i do the same
thing with my SCSI disk there is always a chkdsk because the system failed to
unmout '/'.
Is there someone who uses Samba and shares files on a SCSI disk ?
Thank you for your help...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: Converting NeXTSTEP tiffs to Windows BMP or ICO
Message-ID: <Dotr27.K1D@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <DoMxq9.5GJ@trapac.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:06:07 GMT
In article <DoMxq9.5GJ@trapac.com> karl@trapac.com (Karl Kraft) writes:
> I've had a number of icons created for a clients internal NeXTSTEP
> applications. Now the head of the company has come to me and asked
> about converting them to be used in some other programs in the
> company. These programs are based on Visual Basic and Microsoft
> access, and run under Windows (perhaps Widnows NT). Is there any
> program out there that will perform this translation? It does not
> matter whether it's a windows or NeXTSTEP application.
Can I claim the cutest solution, if not the cheapest, or most flexable:
Open them in IconBuilder(say), copy then paste them into the Paintbrush,
running under SoftPC.
(OK, so I'm biased [I wrote that bit!], and it drops them to the screen
depth, but its a real easy way to do it)
Ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: SoftPC & Netscape
Message-ID: <DotrBs.K5s@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <4itsjm$1di@info.itsq8.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:11:51 GMT
In article <4itsjm$1di@info.itsq8.com> asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad
Al-rasheedan) writes:
> Did anyone try SoftPC on NS3.3 & Netscape? Does it run ok?
Yes, it runs fine under SoftPC4.1
There were some of the netscape 2beta releases which crashed , but these
were probably netscape problems. The latest release I've tried is pretty
solid.
The only problem I've seen is that netscape occasionaly crashes - I
fixed that by using more extended memory, so its probably a memory leak
in netscape. I haven't seen this in the latest versions.
Ian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <maurice@tlpnl.tlp.nl>
From: Maurice Le Rutte <maurice@tlpnl.tlp.nl>
Message-ID: <9603251258.AA02325@tlpnl.tlp.nl>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 13:58:09 +0100
Subject: Report Generator needed
At our company we are looking for an OpenStep (NextStep) based report generator. It would be very nice if it would work with .eomodel files, like EOF does.
Does anyone has a report writer application/toolkit? Does anyone know of such a product?
Please send specifications to: maurice@tlpnl.tlp.nl.
Many thanks,
Maurice le Rutte
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Samba problem ?
Date: 25 Mar 1996 16:12:56 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4j6gm8$dqk@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <4j64fu$k7i@babylone.int-evry.fr>
In <4j64fu$k7i@babylone.int-evry.fr> Surfeur Celeste wrote:
> I've just compiled Samba on Nextstep.
> When i share some files from my IDE disk it sounds ok but when i do the
same
> thing with my SCSI disk there is always a chkdsk because the system failed
to
> unmout '/'.
> Is there someone who uses Samba and shares files on a SCSI disk ?
> Thank you for your help...
I have not used samba but I have found the same problem with other programs.
I tracked it down to the following lines:
if (unlink(pidfilename) < 0 && errno != ENOENT)
syslog(LOG_WARNING, "unable to delete pid file: %m");
pidfilename[0] = 0;
In the specific instance, the pid file did not exist so the error number
_was_ ENOENT. However,
after running this the file system would not unmount / and I would have to
wait for an fsck. Making sure the file existed or removing the unlink solved
the problem.
The solution was reproducable with the program I was running, however, the
following program would not reproduce the problem.
#include <stdio.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <errno.h>
/*
* The name of a non-existant file
*/
#define BOGUS_FILE "/tmp/Bogus_File"
int main()
{
if (unlink(BOGUS_FILE) < 0)
{
if(errno == ENOENT)
printf("Received expected errno of ENOENT\n");
else
perror("Received other error");
exit(1);
}
/*
* Must use a non-existant file.
*/
printf("Shouldn't get here\n");
return 0;
}
If anybody finds out more I would be very interested in hearing.
Hope this helps out some!
- Steve
---
==============================================================
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Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: pcoderre@ardilog.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need a Full-Text Retrieval Software?
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 17:55:13 GMT
Organization: ARDILOG Inc.
Message-ID: <4i9mid$7k1@news.bellglobal.com>
Just Email for more info. "May the answer come to you!"
From: caraher@dis.anl.gov (Patrick (PJ) Caraher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PopOver: Mail Retrieval Defaults and B
Date: 25 Mar 1996 17:57:34 GMT
Organization: Decision and Information Sciences, Argonne National Lab
Message-ID: <4j6mqe$e2d@milo.mcs.anl.gov>
References: <4iv52r$dan@news.eecs.umich.edu>
In article dan@news.eecs.umich.edu, Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@umich.edu> writes:
>Can somebody mail me a URL for PopOver?
>
>Are there any other POP enablers for NEXTSTEP?
>
>This is related to my other question just posted to this group. Sorry for
>not reading first.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Roland
I am doing this from memory so I'm sorry if there are any
misspellings. Try:
ftp: next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions
There is a version of PopOver in there.
Good Luck.
PJ Caraher
---
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From: Larry Luther <lluther>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing resolution much better than screen resolution - why?
Date: 25 Mar 1996 18:39:11 GMT
Organization: Walt Disney Company InterNetNews site
Message-ID: <4j6p8f$e8@louie.disney.com>
References: <4il9g1$8dt@nuke.csu.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Are you aware that a monitor only has about 100 dots per inch? In the
Mac world they use 72 dots per inch. A laser printer can print at 300 dots per
inch or better. Does this answer your question?
--
Larry Luther
lluther@disney.com
From: everhart@alterlife.com (Dwight Everhart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock synchronization
Date: 25 Mar 1996 19:41:04 GMT
Organization: IntelliNet-ISP, LLC. 1-800-290-7677
Message-ID: <4j6ssg$8rj@zeus.intellinet.com>
References: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net>
In <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net> James C. Lin wrote:
> My NeXTcube clock is drifting and like to find a program to
>synchronize the clock with my network server. Can anyone suggest me a
>utility?
NTP is a standard part of NEXTSTEP and should do what you need. It works
over a LAN and over the Internet. I use it to set my computer's clock to the
Navy's atomic clock every time I bring up my PPP link. Search for NTP in
Librarian for more info.
--
Dwight Everhart "Knowledge may give weight, but accomplishments
Ex Nicole Bobek Coach give lustre, and many more people see than weigh."
Bella Vista, Arkansas -- Lord Chesterfield
everhart@alterlife.com
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Date: 25 Mar 1996 18:51:43 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4j6pvv$7rc@news.its.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311152719.10579C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4i9g4k$eda@news.its.com> <Pine.NXT.3.91.960319131046.9470f-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4iuf7b$5rc@news.its.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960323120428.10972P-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
[ ... ]
> It is roughly at this point that you tell me I should have RTFM rather
> than bothering the nice people at csn-software.
That's right. You probably should have bothered the nice people over in
comp.unix.misc or one of the gnu.* groups.
> Of course, others have taken the opportunity to show me the correct
> syntax, and 2 people sent me binaries they had created to do this. One
> person actually sent me a NeXTStep application to do this.
Writing a binary split program is a common thing to do. Heck, I even wrote
one myself a coupla years ago when I couldn't get my hands on gsplit easily.
[ ... ]
> The 'split --help' that you showed is different than the 'split --help' on
> my NeXT, I must have an older version. Perhaps that explains why I was
> having trouble.
% split --version ~
split - GNU textutils 1.10
[ ... ]
> If you thought my post was a waste of time, why bother replying to it
> (especially when others had already done so, offering the correct syntax)?
> And if you were going to reply to it, why not just offer the answer rather
> than the self-righteousness of a 'RTFM' (especially when I had indicated
> in my post that I HAD RTFM alredy)?
I prefer to answer a question and provide some useful information rather
than simply pointing out that I thought the question was a "waste of time".
Besides, the "R" in RTFM refers to an activity that involves
more than simply looking at words...it also involves comprehension.
In the case of a command like split, you should continue to RTFM until you
understood how the command works. Figuring it out for yourself would have
been far more educational then having an answer given to you.
If this strikes you as self-righteous, well, that's too bad.
You'll manage to deal, no doubt.
> Shall we continue this overlong discussion about a short question which
> only required a short response, or shall we move on to some better use of
> bandwidth?
>
> your call.
> TjL
A nicely crafted statement. Unfortunately, the total bandwidth required to
exchange small, text-only message like these is insignificant-- one section
of a software program on alt.warez or loading any web page that contains a
medium-sized gif represents an order of magnitude more bandwidth being
consumed.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: patrick@opensource.com (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Report Generator Needed
Date: 25 Mar 1996 20:43:51 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4j70i7$769@trane.opensource.com>
References: <9603251258.AA02325@tlpnl.tlp.nl>
In article <9603251258.AA02325@tlpnl.tlp.nl> Maurice Le Rutte
<maurice@tlpnl.tlp.nl> writes:
> At our company we are looking for an OpenStep (NextStep) based report
generator. It would be very nice if it would work with .eomodel files,
like EOF does.
>
> Does anyone has a report writer application/toolkit? Does anyone know of
such a product?
>
> Please send specifications to: maurice@tlpnl.tlp.nl.
>
> Many thanks,
> Maurice le Rutte
There are two related products that fill this need. One is the Complete
Access (End User) package, the other is the Complete Access Developer
package.
The End User version lets you connect to DBKit and EOF databases, and run
queries and generate reports on the data.
The Developer version lets you incorporate the reporting features of
Complete Access into your own programs. That is, if you have a particular
application that requires reporting on a database, you can just include
the functionality of CA into your app very easily.
More information and an FTP link to the demo can be found at:
http://www.opensource.com/Software/Database/CompleteAccess.html
Cordially
--
Patrick Giagnocavo, Account Executive, email:patrick@opensource.com
OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012 Denver, CO 80203
Check us out on the WWW at http://www.opensource.com
(303).861.4411 Fax: (303).861.2393 1-800-TRY-OPEN (879-6736)
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where to find PopOver (was Re: PopOver: Mail Retrieval Defaults and B)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 15:15:22 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960325151442.1238B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4iv52r$dan@news.eecs.umich.edu> <4j6mqe$e2d@milo.mcs.anl.gov>
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ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/mail/PopOver.v1.3.NIHS.bd.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/mail/PopOver.v1.3.NIHS.bd.tar.gz.README
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/mail/PopOver.v1.4.NIHS.bd.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/mail/PopOver.v1.4.NIHS.bd.tar.gz.README
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info'
>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
From: suckow@bln.sel.alcatel.de (Ralf Suckow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Winword Compatible Wordprocessor for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 26 Mar 1996 08:02:27 GMT
Organization: Alcatel/Bell
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4j88aj$si1@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be>
Hello,
is there a wordprocessor for NEXTSTEP that
1. allows to read/write winword documents
AND
2. allows to use winword 2.0 or 6.0 document templates (.DOT)
AND
3. leads to high productivity of the user (unlike winword)
Thanks,
--
Ralf Suckow |------------------------
suckow@bln.sel.alcatel.de | All opinions are mine.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Winword Compatible Wordprocessor for NEXTSTEP?
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 11:20:27 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960326111214.29654A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <4j88aj$si1@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be>
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On 26 Mar 1996, Ralf Suckow wrote:
> Hello,
>
> is there a wordprocessor for NEXTSTEP that
>
> 1. allows to read/write winword documents
> AND
> 2. allows to use winword 2.0 or 6.0 document templates (.DOT)
> AND
> 3. leads to high productivity of the user (unlike winword)
As far as I know there is OpenWrite which most people prefer, but looking
at the demo of version 2.0 I was missing things which make me wonder, how
people can use this fsoftware for other things then writing letters ans
samll articles. I need:
- Document templates (not only styles, but templetas to just fill in
my text at predefined positions)
- I need floating graphics all over the page, not just floating around
in a text paragraph
- What about text boxes and graphics placeable _between_ columns, so
that they might overlap more than one column?
- I'm heavily missing hyphenation algorithms.
- and last but not least where are such features like embedding small
graphics like lines/circles like in Word6? It's nearly impossible to
design a fill-out page with blank spaces.
As far as I know there is only Frameworker left, which (as Adobe states)
"isn't worth developing anymore, because the requests for NEXTSTEP are
too small". Happy NEXTWorld.
Greetings,
Boerny.
From: garyc@filoli.com (Gary I. Chang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A High-Quality News Reader
Date: 26 Mar 1996 08:55:39 GMT
Organization: Best Internet Communications
Message-ID: <4j8beb$2ps@nntp1.best.com>
References: <4iuqt9$qjd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> <4ivi9n$cjo@usc.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960323115702.10972N-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960323115702.10972N-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NewsFlash is by far the best NewsReader on the NeXTStep
platform. Highly recommended.
Gary
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Message-ID: <1996Mar26.112741.46192@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch
Date: 26 Mar 96 11:27:41 MET
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311152719.10579C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu <Pine.HPP.3.91.960325142636.15587E-100000@hphalle0.informat
I'm astonished that nobody pointed to the Installer.app/chunk program. It is used
to create files of a certain size. It is deliverd with avery NEXTSTEP release.
It is, of course, not intended for the public, but the chunkPackage script gives
enough hints on how to use it.
-Robert
--
Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67
Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15
Robert Frank
Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok)
CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
Switzerland
From: William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anybody remember RBrowser?
Date: 26 Mar 1996 11:46:44 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <4j8lf4$lbg@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Can anybody tell me whether the amazing RBrowser was ever made available
for NS Intel, and whether it has been renamed, replaced, discarded,
withdrawn etc.
William Clocksin
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge
wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk
From: hugh@nexustech.com (Hugh Ashton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing to HP LJ4M (Japanese)
Date: 24 Mar 1996 02:47:46 GMT
Organization: Nexus Technology KK
Message-ID: <4j2d4i$5u0@misc.twics.com>
With NS3.3J, printing documents with Western non-resident fonts to an HP LJ4M
(JetDirect card i/f) works just fine. However, it does not work when the
document contains Japanese fonts. No error message, no paper, nothing. I have
been assured that this particular printer is a Level II PS, so should support
these fonts. The alternative is to resuurect an OKI Microline 400PS which has
disk-resident Japanese PS fonts (either parallel port or put in another
JetDirect box). Any experiences with this setup??
The HP printer has 6Mb of RAM - am I overflowing the memory capacity of the
printer or what?
TIA, hugh
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From: tremblay_michel@tandem.com (Pierre-Michel Tremblay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How about an newer Nextime Viewer?
Date: 26 Mar 1996 15:44:41 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers,Inc. (Austin, TX)
Message-ID: <4j93d9$c52@news.mpd.tandem.com>
Keywords: Nextime,Viewer,Quicktime
Bonjour,
I wander if anyone of you have heard anything about a new Nextime version
available. I think this is of general interest. Please respond through this
news group.
http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1706.htmld/1706.html:
"Future releases will add support for recording movies using video capture
cards, as well as additional file formats and compression schemes."
I'm still waiting...
Pierre-Michel Tremblay | Email: tremblay_michel@tandem.com
Tandem Computers Canada Ltd | NS 3.3 FIP.
2000, ave du college McGill | NeXT and MIME mail ok.
Bureau 800 | Voice: 514/282-3123
Montreal, Quebec H3A 3H3 | Fax: 514/282-6349
From: indy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (weintz steven cortelou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Winword Compatible Wordprocessor for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 26 Mar 1996 16:00:44 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <4j94bc$ml@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <4j88aj$si1@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be> <Pine.HPP.3.91.960326111214.29654A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
You know, I'm finding that PasteUp and Create work quite well as flexible
document processors, esp. with more freeform layouts. PasteUp in its AFS
incarnation is quite nice, and the latest CD they sent me has a whole bunch
of import-export filters, including Word.
You can create templates, place and draw graphics, and wraparound text.
Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:
>As far as I know there is OpenWrite which most people prefer, but looking
>at the demo of version 2.0 I was missing things which make me wonder, how
>people can use this fsoftware for other things then writing letters ans
>samll articles. I need:
> - Document templates (not only styles, but templetas to just fill in
> my text at predefined positions)
> - I need floating graphics all over the page, not just floating around
> in a text paragraph
> - What about text boxes and graphics placeable _between_ columns, so
> that they might overlap more than one column?
> - I'm heavily missing hyphenation algorithms.
> - and last but not least where are such features like embedding small
> graphics like lines/circles like in Word6? It's nearly impossible to
> design a fill-out page with blank spaces.
>As far as I know there is only Frameworker left, which (as Adobe states)
>"isn't worth developing anymore, because the requests for NEXTSTEP are
>too small". Happy NEXTWorld.
>Greetings,
> Boerny.
--
Steve Weintz * Partner, New Media, Ltd.
P.O. Box 742 * Urbana, IL 61801
steve@dave-world.net * 217.344.5303 * 217.344.8981 fax
Staff Visioneer, Beckman Institute Visualization Facility * indy@uiuc.edu
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: News from OmniWeb 2.0.1?
Date: 26 Mar 1996 17:24:29 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Message-ID: <4j998d$bq3@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Just installed the new version of OmniWeb, and after fiddling with
a few preferences I think it's great. In particular, the bookmark
handling facility is sufficiently robust that I think I'll get rid
of my home page in browser form, and maintain it as bookmarks only.
One puzzle: how do I tell it about my news server, so that URLs
like <news:alt.foo.baz> go to the right place? I've tried a few
logical-looking things in the proxy preferences, and read the
remote help-page (which badly needs a searchable index!) but so
far no luck.
For every complex problem
|===================================================
there is a simple solution,| Joshua W Burton (847)677-3902
jburton@nwu.edu
and it's wrong.
|===================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu
Subject: pdksh
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Message-ID: <960326083613.841AAFgF.wayne@keizai2>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:36:13 GMT
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Organization: Washington State University
I would like to switch to the Korn shell and found pdksh in the archives at
next-ftp.peak.org.
Can someone tell me if this is the most recent relearse of a Korn shell for
Next?
Does it work bug free?
Thanks for any advice.
Wayne Joerding
Professor of Economics Ofc: 509-335-6468
Washington State University email: joerd@mail.wsu.edu
Pullman WA 99164
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Samba problem ?
Date: 26 Mar 1996 18:08:09 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Message-ID: <4j9bq9$qj6@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <4j64fu$k7i@babylone.int-evry.fr>
Surfeur Celeste (babou@snow.drepou.peuf) wrote:
: I've just compiled Samba on Nextstep.
: When i share some files from my IDE disk it sounds ok but when i do the same
: thing with my SCSI disk there is always a chkdsk because the system failed to
: unmout '/'.
Don't compile with '-posix' flag or libraries. If you do you will suffer
like described above.
--mj
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A High-Quality News Reader
Date: 26 Mar 1996 19:16:10 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-28.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4j9fpq$f39@usc.edu>
References: <4iuqt9$qjd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> <4ivi9n$cjo@usc.edu>
<Pine.NXT.3.92.960323115702.10972N-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4j8beb$2ps@nntp1.best.com>
In <4j8beb$2ps@nntp1.best.com> Gary I. Chang wrote:
> NewsFlash is by far the best NewsReader on the NeXTStep
> platform. Highly recommended.
What makes NewsFlash better than RadicalNews?
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Enough already! (Was: breaking up large files)
Date: 26 Mar 1996 19:21:05 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-28.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4j9g31$f39@usc.edu>
Both of you guys, TJL and Chuck, are great contributors to these usenet
groups and I've learned a lot from both of you.
But if you guys want to do this kind of bickering, why not email? Or just
forget it in the first place?
Enough already. RTNYT!
8-)
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
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From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Which html editor
Date: 26 Mar 1996 15:44:19 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4j93cj$h95@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
Originator: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU
Recommendations on html editors? Free or cheap preferred.
Thanks.
tim
--
Timothy Van Zandt
Department of Economics Email: tvz@princeton.edu
Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050
Princeton, NJ 08544 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anybody remember RBrowser?
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 10:57:00 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960326105427.8773G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4j8lf4$lbg@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk
In-Reply-To: <4j8lf4$lbg@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
On 26 Mar 1996 William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote:
> Can anybody tell me whether the amazing RBrowser was ever made available
> for NS Intel, and whether it has been renamed, replaced, discarded,
> withdrawn etc.
Sure I remember it! I posted to -bugs awhile ago wondering why when I try
to login as root I get 'login failed -- Shell inconsistent' (no one has
answered that yet)
It has been a very long time since I heard anything about this app, which
I think is very nice. It is compiled 4fat at better FTP sites everywhere,
such as:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info/RBrowser.quad.0.972.tar.Z
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Network/filetransfer/RBrowser.0.972.NIHS.b.tar.gz
(this is a mirror to peanuts)
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info'
>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
From: Eugene Mah <eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: BuildDisk and autorelease messages
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:43:21 -0700
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960326164007.1879B-100000@raddi>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi,
I'm using BuildDisk to format and install NS 3.3 FIP onto
a new hard drive, and I've noticed in the console
there are numerous messages of the form
*** autorelease for Documentation.pkg [0x1b95c8]: No pool in place
Having never used 3.3 BuildDisk, I'm not sure if I should be
concerned with these messages or not. I'm aware that
the autorelease thing is some form of garbage collection,
and everything seems to be working still. Just seems
like a strange kind of thing to be seeing.
Eugene
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail)
Systems Administrator "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words Bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/
PGP KeyID = 1F9779FD
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From: info.trend-soft@t-online.de (Torsten Rendelmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Source for StopWatch.app
Date: 25 Mar 1996 20:36:53 GMT
Organization: Trend-Soft, Germany
Message-ID: <4j7055$mks@news00.btx.dtag.de>
References: <4id1l2$ljn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> Hi.
>
> Could somebody point me towards the source for StopWatch.app?
>
> The info panel describes it as gnuware, with source available, but
> I can't find it on the archive sites.
Have a look at the Walnut Creek CRDOM NEBULA.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert
>
> --
> Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
> MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
> ---- NeXTmail always welcome ----
----
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phone +49 5305 90100-1 fax +49 5305 90100-2
mailto: trend-soft@guug.de (MIME welcome)
or: torsten.rendelmann@guug.de
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 25 Mar 1996 05:15:09 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4j5a4t$cj0@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
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==========================
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Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
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Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
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Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
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on NEXTSTEP systems.
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Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
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Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
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simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
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Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: osg@onramp.net (Glenda )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Should you work for OSG?
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 01:09:01 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4j9td5$oir@news.onramp.net>
Should you work for OSG?
Ask yourself the following questions.
1. Do you want to work on one fabulous OO project after another rather
than doing a project and then maintain it forever?
2. Would you like the opportunity to build a robust infrastructure,
develop a good design, and direct a state of the art
implementation for a large scale OO project?
3. Are you currently in a situation where you are trying to implement
90s technology with 80s tools and techniques?
4. Do you want to be a OO expert instead of an IT generalist?
5. If you are a consultant:
Do you find that on most of your assignments you are treated like
an outsider rather than like the valued technical business partner
you truly are?
If you are a full-time employee of a company:
Is there a pattern within your company of hiring consultants to do
the more interesting and challenging tasks, and do you
wonder why youre not making the same amount of money as
the consultants who are your peers?
6. Would you like working for a company that has a proven successful
OO process, and the reputation for excellence that will keep you
progressing in your chosen field and happily employed for years to
come?
If you answered yes to #s 1 and 2, and you also answered yes to any
one of the other 4 then send your resume now to osg@onramp.net , US
mail your resume to Object Systems Group, Inc., Attn: Glenda Maddox,
3048 Infomart, 1950 Stemmons Freeway, Dallas, Tx. 75207, or fax to 214
742-5847.
From: Stephen_MacDougall@radium.ca (Stephen MacDougall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Music Editing Software
Date: 26 Mar 1996 19:57:17 GMT
Organization: ftn Internet
Message-ID: <4j9i6t$5lk@master.ftn.net>
References: <3152C511.7D5A@interaccess.com> <4iv862$frd@news.eecs.umich.edu>
In <4iv862$frd@news.eecs.umich.edu>, Eric M. Mrozek wrote:
| In article <3152C511.7D5A@interaccess.com> Bryan Pearce
| <deneb@interaccess.com> writes:
| > Any information would be greatly appreciated. My access to this list
| > is limited, so please respond to (deneb@interaccess.com). I will then
| > summarize the responses I received for the newsgroup.
|
| There's a list of sound and music programs for NeXTStep at:
| http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~mrozek/nextmusic/NxtSndMusProgs.html
| ftp://ftp.eecs.umich.edu/pub/nextmusic/FAQ.NxtSndMusProgs3.5.html
|
| Eric (your friendly NextMusic administrator)
Also, there's the Princeton Sound Kitchen, at:
http://www.music.princeton.edu:80/winham/PSK/
Which has support for many OS's, including NeXTSTEP
Regards,
--
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Director of Research and Development
RADium Technology Centre (Canada)
Stephen_MacDougall@RADium.ca
NeXT and MIME mail gladly accepted
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From: Stephen_MacDougall@radium.ca (Stephen MacDougall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: POP mail for NEXTSTEP
Date: 26 Mar 1996 19:59:55 GMT
Organization: ftn Internet
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4j9ibr$5lk@master.ftn.net>
References: <4iv4vp$d6q@news.eecs.umich.edu>
In <4iv4vp$d6q@news.eecs.umich.edu>, Roland Telfeyan wrote:
| Is there any way to read mail on NEXTSTEP from a remote server via POP
| protocol?
|
| For example, are there any POP mail clients or are there any POP enablers
| for NeXT Mail?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Roland
Check out:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/pop3d.NIHS.bs.gnutar.gz
This will give you a POP3 server, which works wonderfully!!
Regards,
--
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Stephen MacDougall
Director of Research and Development
RADium Technology Centre (Canada)
Stephen_MacDougall@RADium.ca
NeXT and MIME mail gladly accepted
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: brendan@banzai.xs4all.nl (Brendan Bank)
Subject: Re: Samba problem ?
Message-ID: <Dow6JA.8Hp@banzai.xs4all.nl>
Sender: news@banzai.xs4all.nl
Organization: Banzai Next Forever
References: <4j64fu$k7i@babylone.int-evry.fr>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:35:34 GMT
In <4j64fu$k7i@babylone.int-evry.fr> Surfeur Celeste wrote: I've just
> compiled Samba on Nextstep. When i share some files from my IDE disk it
> sounds ok but when i do the same thing with my SCSI disk there is always a
> chkdsk because the system failed to unmout '/'. Is there someone who uses
> Samba and shares files on a SCSI disk ? Thank you for your help...
check out the latest version samba-1.9.15p8.tar.gz. I have no sutch problems
and somewhere I read that in this version this problem was fixed. I have it
running with no problems.
Brendan
From: naj@fraxinus.fast.net (M. `Naj' Najarian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bundles of bundles (was Re: Weird, but repeatable Mail.app crash)
Date: 27 Mar 1996 03:54:49 GMT
Organization: not bluidy likely
Message-ID: <4jae69$7tk@nn.fast.net>
References: <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU>?<4j783l$12li@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>?i@ <Pine.NXT.3.92.960326103752.8773D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960326103752.8773D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Someone, somewhere along the line said:
>ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/bundles/MailBundle
s.NIHS.b.tar.gz
and someone else said:
>http://www.next.com/~lennart
to which Uncle Tim added:
>this is no longer a thread about bugs ;-) Followups to csn-software
Wow! So _that's_ the advantage of objects. This goes way beyond
TickleServices, way beyond URLifier. I've never seen anything that
would change/enhance not only the structure of a shrink-wrap app's
menus, but even the buttons in its internal windows. I'm speechless.
I've been an NS user for, I dunno, 5 years now, and I'm still
awestruck.
Let the naysayers retreat to their NT, Slowlaris, or whatever; I'm
stayin'!
Naj
--
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Fraxinus Research Services vox (hah!): 610.756.6888
P.O. Box 65 fax/data: 610.756.6400
Kutztown, PA 19530 USA ee: fraxinus@fast.net (MIME, NeXT, whatever)
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A High-Quality News Reader
Date: 27 Mar 1996 04:20:49 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4jafn1$47b@news4.digex.net>
References: <4iuqt9$qjd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> <4ivi9n$cjo@usc.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960323115702.10972N-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4j8beb$2ps@nntp1.best.com> <4j9fpq$f39@usc.edu>
reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote:
> In <4j8beb$2ps@nntp1.best.com> Gary I. Chang wrote:
> > NewsFlash is by far the best NewsReader on the NeXTStep
> > platform. Highly recommended.
> What makes NewsFlash better than RadicalNews?
Well, this is likely to be personal taste thing...
-I think both are multi threaded (process wise for processing articles).
-I think both handle threaded messaging.
Now what makes me like NewsFlash better:
-The UI is standard. Some, I'm sure, will prefer RadicalNews' 'alternative
UI look.'
-The UI for message threading in NF is nice simple Indenting (I can tell
what came from where, sorted by date, simply by scoping out the intenting.
The multi-color text scheme requires me to remember what color represents
what... However, it seems that all the different colors in RN let you flag
lots more different message 'happenings' than does NF... But for me,
indenting is better.
I think they both allow for slow ppp links, and both handle uuencoding and
decoding...
Both RN and NF will likely cost money (NF does now, and I think that is the
plan when RN leaves Beta). Both are reasonably priced...
This really is a subjective call. I hate changing standard UI stuff, so
that's why I prefer NF. But RN is very powerful too.
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME & NeXTmail OK--PPP | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: arneha@ifi.uio.no (Arne Christian Hrseth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mobile data
Date: 27 Mar 1996 10:02:27 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Message-ID: <4jb3nj$g0b@glitnir.ifi.uio.no>
Is there any software to handle safe transparent transportation of
(object)messages over mobile networks (like Mobitex)?
I know about Oracle Mobile Agent, but i don't think it handles
transparent transportation (you have to write code to ship the message
to the destination)?
Any robust palmtops that can run OpenStep?
Please reply to Arne.Haarseth@oslo.it.telenor.no with CC to
arneha@internet.no
Arne
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Canon object.station 41 AUDIO & Windoze 95
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 05:11:56 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <3159227C.3E08@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <4ikgke$l0h@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> <1996Mar19.204945.2813@seer.demon.co.uk> <4inee0$207@digifix.digifix.com> <4iubfg$opc@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Oak Technologies has a new driver 2.6.5 released December 95 and WILL allow audio to
work with Windoze 95. httP://www.oaktech.com
The driver is called:
601f265.zip you MUST install this in MS-DOS mode, and it looks like 95 won't recognize it,
but it will work. Although now after installing it, my networking doesn't seem to
work...more later..
Here's the direct link to the file:
http://www.oaktech.com/zipfiles/601f265.zip
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mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Technology
PEACE LOVE Services
UNITY RESPECT Illinois State University
"Understanding is best learned via experience."
"Follow our instinct, not a trend. Go against the grain until the end." Unknown ....
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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How about an newer Nextime Viewer?-in OPENSTEP 4.0
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 05:27:41 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <3159262D.6895@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <4j93d9$c52@news.mpd.tandem.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To: Pierre-Michel Tremblay <tremblay_michel@tandem.com>
Pierre-Michel Tremblay wrote:
> I wander if anyone of you have heard anything about a new Nextime version
> available. I think this is of general interest. Please respond through this
> news group.
According to NeXT you have to get OPENSTEP 4.0, and it will be built in...
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mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Technology
PEACE LOVE Services
UNITY RESPECT Illinois State University
"Understanding is best learned via experience."
"Follow our instinct, not a trend. Go against the grain until the end." Unknown ....
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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking to buy NeXT Step Softwear for 486
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 05:29:46 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <315926AA.7AD@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <3153C7AD.4AB5@earthlink.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To: Donny W Chilla <dogger@earthlink.net>
Donny W Chilla wrote:
> I would like to buy a version of next step for my 486 pc
> if you have a cd for sale mail me back!
I have a copy of NEXTSTEP 3.2 Intel English forsale, make an offer- it's User...
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mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Technology
PEACE LOVE Services
UNITY RESPECT Illinois State University
"Understanding is best learned via experience."
"Follow our instinct, not a trend. Go against the grain until the end." Unknown ....
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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing resolution much better than screen resolution - why?
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 05:34:16 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <315927B8.6FBF@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <4il9g1$8dt@nuke.csu.net> <4itcvo$28p@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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To: "Wassim M. Jabi" <wjabi@umich.edu>
Wassim M. Jabi wrote:
> The printers output in the range 300-600 dots per inch (if not more
> with newer and fancier printers). So the images will be crisper.
> The monitor can only show 72 dots per inch. Especially in B&W
> EPS files: Those make use of the highest resolution available
> on the device they are printed on while greyscale bitmapped TIFF
> files will look coarser than B&W EPS files due to dithering/half
> toning. TIFF images usually look worse printed on paper than on the
> screen due to half-toning. Just print any Web page with graphics
> and you'll see what I mean.
Do you or anyone else know how to get more screen resolution? Is it a function of
hardware, or the OS? Do any monitors support upwards of 72dpi?
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mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Technology
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Winword Compatible Wordprocessor for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 27 Mar 1996 12:22:18 GMT
Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main
Message-ID: <4jbbtq$sh@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <4j88aj$si1@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be> <Pine.HPP.3.91.960326111214.29654A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:
[OpenWrite...]
> - I'm heavily missing hyphenation algorithms.
Ooops... Weren't you the one who stated that he could easily live without
hyphenation just a few weeks ago in de.comp.sys.next???
> As far as I know there is only Frameworker left, which (as Adobe states)
> "isn't worth developing anymore, because the requests for NEXTSTEP are
> too small". Happy NEXTWorld.
Besides the fact that it's called FrameMaker, where did Adobe state this?
Bye
Uli
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Lorscher Strasse 5
D-60489 Frankfurt
Germany
Phone: +49 (69) 9784 0007
E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail - Mime - ASCII)
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Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
_____________________________________________________________________
From: pbrown@asparagus.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing resolution much better than screen resolution - why?
Date: 27 Mar 1996 13:09:23 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Message-ID: <4jbem3$age@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <4il9g1$8dt@nuke.csu.net> <4itcvo$28p@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <315927B8.6FBF@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
In article <315927B8.6FBF@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>,
Eric A. Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> wrote:
>Do you or anyone else know how to get more screen resolution? Is it a function of
>hardware, or the OS? Do any monitors support upwards of 72dpi?
You're stuck with the screen resolution; it's a hardware thing. 72 dpi or
100 dpi or 91 dpi or most anything in that range can look pretty good,
and it likely that poor on-screen appearance is due to problems with
software used to render the image in a screen-suitable format.
As for why you can't get a 400DPI monitor, memory considerations are a
big reason. My roughly 1280x1000 screen is only 3 inches by 2.5 inches
"on paper", and a 21 inch monitor would require a HUGE amount of VRAM for
any sort of reasonable number of colors. (Like 2.) There are also
physical considerations, eg., how to do a really, really good job with
the coating for the screen without spending a fortune on it...
Best,
pb
From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing resolution much better than screen resolution - why?
Message-ID: <1996Mar27.145359.46202@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 27 Mar 96 14:53:59 MET
References: <4il9g1$8dt@nuke.csu.net> <315927B8.6FBF@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
In article <315927B8.6FBF@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> writes:
>
> Do you or anyone else know how to get more screen resolution? Is it a function of
> hardware, or the OS? Do any monitors support upwards of 72dpi?
>
72 dpi is only the resolution that normally fits 1 to 1 for WYSIWYG,
and that is the 'normal' ratio for your monitor (e.g 640*480 on 14'',
800*600 on 15'', 1024*768 on 17'' approx). If you
use 1280*1024 on a 17'' monitor, you have approx 90 dpi, and you can even
get higher dpi-values (but you can probably no longer read the letters)
But this will not make your EPS or TIFFs crisper, only smaller.
Good graphic cards support up to 1600*1200 resolutions, but you need the
appropriate monitor too for this (It's surely not very funny on a 14''
or 15'' monitor :-)
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Physikalisches Institut
Universitaet Basel
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From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News from OmniWeb 2.0.1?
Date: 27 Mar 1996 16:02:51 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <4jborb$atl@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
References: <4j998d$bq3@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Joshua W. Burton (jburton@nwu.edu) wrote:
> One puzzle: how do I tell it about my news server, so that URLs
> like <news:alt.foo.baz> go to the right place?
You can't. OmniWeb 2.0 no longer supports news. I don't know whether there
is an interface with newsreaders, like with Mail.app.
--
G.J. van Oldenborgh
Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics, Leiden University
email: gj@rulgm0.LeidenUniv.nl
web: http://rulgm4.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html
From: strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Samba problem ?
Date: 27 Mar 1996 17:18:18 +0100
Organization: MPI
Sender: strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de
Message-ID: <we6ybomechh.fsf@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de>
References: <4j64fu$k7i@babylone.int-evry.fr>
<4j9bq9$qj6@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In-reply-to: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca's message of 26 Mar 1996 18:08:09
GMT
In article <4j9bq9$qj6@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) writes:
: I've just compiled Samba on Nextstep.
: When i share some files from my IDE disk it sounds ok but when i do the same
: thing with my SCSI disk there is always a chkdsk because the system failed to
: unmout '/'.
Don't compile with '-posix' flag or libraries. If you do you will suffer
like described above.
Absolutly correct. any posix prog, that accesses an external scsi
disk through the next filesystems leaves a ref in the vfs.
so the root umount failes, that's it.
SO: never use -posix, if you use multiple disks. (I tried only
two scsi disks of any kind.)
Ciao, Stephan
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Email: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de>
Mail: Abt. 081, MPI bpC, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany
Tel: +49 551 201 1 454
From: Fran=?iso-8859-1?Q?=E7ois Talbot <FTalbot@cmq.qc.ca>?=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Comm and game softwares for NeXT
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:01:07 +0000
Organization: Universite Laval
Message-ID: <31593C13.686E@cmq.qc.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'd like to know if SoftArc ever made a version of the
FirstClass/Client for NeXT computers. And I've heard that a few games
were made for NextStep: what are they?
From: cbrooks@futon.SFSU.EDU ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help with Sybase on NS 3.3 (black)
Date: 27 Mar 1996 20:55:03 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jc9v7$28d@nuke.csu.net>
Hi.
We're working on an online quiz program here at San Francisco State
using Sybase as the back-end DB. We're running this on a Black NeXTstation
running NS 3.3 with 32 MB of RAM.
Here's the problem - we're unable to open more than a few connections
to the SQL server at one time (we'd like to have about 15) - the docs say
that this can be changed by reconfiguring the database, but that the maximum
number of connections is bounded by the variable @@max_connections. All
they say about this is that it's OS dependent. On our system this is 8,
which is much lower than we'd like it to be. (The examples in the
documentation show @@max_connections = 30, and the SQL Server can
supposedly support 250 connections.)
So, my questions are, how can we raise this number, and/or, what
exactly is it dependent on? Is it file descriptors? Semaphores?
Available memory?
If anyone out there has any help or insight, it'd be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris Brooks
cbrooks@futon.sfsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Winword Compatible Wordprocessor for NEXTSTEP?
Message-ID: <1996Mar27.202252.262@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4j88aj$si1@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 20:22:52 GMT
In article <4j88aj$si1@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be>
suckow@bln.sel.alcatel.de (Ralf Suckow) writes:
> Hello,
>
> is there a wordprocessor for NEXTSTEP that
>
> 1. allows to read/write winword documents
> AND
> 2. allows to use winword 2.0 or 6.0 document templates (.DOT)
> AND
> 3. leads to high productivity of the user (unlike winword)
>
WriteUp and OpenWrite qualify for 1 and 2 (as far as WinWORD features are
supported; none of 'em covers all). 3 is a matter of hot debates ;-P
--
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From: truong@phoenix.net (Tuan Truong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News from OmniWeb 2.0.1?
Date: 27 Mar 1996 23:40:52 GMT
Message-ID: <4jcjm4$d8a@gryphon.phoenix.net>
References: <4j998d$bq3@news.acns.nwu.edu> <4jborb$atl@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
In-Reply-To: <4jborb$atl@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
+--On 03/27/96 in the group comp.sys.next.software you wrote:
| Joshua W. Burton (jburton@nwu.edu) wrote:
| > One puzzle: how do I tell it about my news server, so that
URLs
| > like <news:alt.foo.baz> go to the right place?
|
| You can't. OmniWeb 2.0 no longer supports news. I don't
| know whether there is an interface with newsreaders, like
| with Mail.app.
|
News URL's are handled thru services now in OW 2.x.
Right now Alexandra and RadicalNews support this and I expect
NewsFlash to follow. If you see a news URL in OW, then selecting
it will start up Alexandra or RadicalNews depending on your taste
in newsreaders.
I don't think OW has ever supported newsreading.
-Tuan
--
(NeXTmail friendly)
From: "William J. Peterson" <peterson@media.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PopOver: Mail Retrieval Defaults and B
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 01:02:08 -0500
Organization: Cyber Access Internet Services (617) 396-0491
Message-ID: <315A2B60.2123@media.mit.edu>
References: <4iv52r$dan@news.eecs.umich.edu> <4j6mqe$e2d@milo.mcs.anl.gov>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I can retrieve my mail using pop-over, but how do I
send mail out.
thanks
Bill Peterson
From: "William J. Peterson" <peterson@media.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.7.5 on NS FIP cannot send out of my domain.
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 01:38:05 -0500
Organization: Cyber Access Internet Services (617) 396-0491
Message-ID: <315A33CD.442@media.mit.edu>
References: <960320120358.352AAEYJ.pmt@a22459> <315129CC.36B2@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <4is7up$pm5@usc.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I also have a sendmail question.
I have a single Intel Machine on a lan with a T1,
there is both a normal mailhost machine and a
POP server how do I get mail to work?
Bill Peterson
From: "William J. Peterson" <peterson@media.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: jessycad
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 01:24:48 -0500
Organization: Cyber Access Internet Services (617) 396-0491
Message-ID: <315A30B0.4377@media.mit.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Has anyone got jessy cad to work, I have tried and
failed. The package opens but when I click to
launch it just disappears.
Any Ideas
Bill Peterson
peterson@media.mit.edu
From: robin@pswtech.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bundles of bundles (was Re: Weird, but repeatable Mail.app crash)
Date: 28 Mar 1996 02:10:09 GMT
Organization: PSW Technologies
Message-ID: <4jcse1$jj3@digdug.pswtech.com>
References: <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU>?<4j783l$12li@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>?i@ <Pine.NXT.3.92.960326103752.8773D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4jae69$7tk@nn.fast.net>
naj@fraxinus.fast.net (M. `Naj' Najarian) wrote:
: Someone, somewhere along the line said:
: >ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/bundles/MailBundle
: s.NIHS.b.tar.gz
: and someone else said:
: >http://www.next.com/~lennart
: to which Uncle Tim added:
: >this is no longer a thread about bugs ;-) Followups to csn-software
: Wow! So _that's_ the advantage of objects. This goes way beyond
: TickleServices, way beyond URLifier. I've never seen anything that
: would change/enhance not only the structure of a shrink-wrap app's
: menus, but even the buttons in its internal windows. I'm speechless.
: I've been an NS user for, I dunno, 5 years now, and I'm still
: awestruck.
Hey, if you have InterfaceBuilder -- you can even poke around in the 'nib' files
for many apps (the ones that don't load custom palettes too heavily). I've made
mods to several vendored applications through their 'nib' files. You can add
menu options, add buttons, remove/reassign buttons and change certain interface
default actions. Works _GREAT_!
I think we'll still be able to do this stuff with OPENSTEP on NT tho'...
--
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Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759
(512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing resolution much better than screen resolution - why?
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 22:06:33 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <315A1049.75BA@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <4il9g1$8dt@nuke.csu.net> <4j6p8f$e8@louie.disney.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Larry Luther wrote:
> Are you aware that a monitor only has about 100 dots per inch? In the
> Mac world they use 72 dots per inch. A laser printer can print at 300 dots per
> inch or better. Does this answer your question?
So, for instance, could Apple revamp its OS somehow to finally take advantage of the 100
DPI?
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mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Technology
PEACE LOVE Services
UNITY RESPECT Illinois State University
"Understanding is best learned via experience."
"Follow our instinct, not a trend. Go against the grain until the end." Unknown ....
VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftWindows 95, NS version soon?!
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 22:08:46 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <315A10CE.2A13@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <4itsjm$1di@info.itsq8.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To: asr@itsq8.com
Ahmad Al-rasheedan wrote:
>
> Did anyone try SoftPC on NS3.3 & Netscape? Does it run ok?
I don't know about that, but SoftWindows 95 just came out for PowerMacs, so a NS version
can't be far behind!! Insignia won't say tho ;)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Technology
PEACE LOVE Services
UNITY RESPECT Illinois State University
"Understanding is best learned via experience."
"Follow our instinct, not a trend. Go against the grain until the end." Unknown ....
VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
From: kwong@plato.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: pdksh
Date: 28 Mar 1996 06:11:39 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Message-ID: <4jdair$peu@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
References: <960326083613.841AAFgF.wayne@keizai2>
The latest version of pdksh can be found on ftp://ftp.cs.mun.ca/pub/pdksh
and the latest version # is 5.2.4.
--KAI--
In <960326083613.841AAFgF.wayne@keizai2> joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu wrote:
> I would like to switch to the Korn shell and found pdksh in the archives
at
> next-ftp.peak.org.
>
> Can someone tell me if this is the most recent relearse of a Korn shell
for
> Next?
>
> Does it work bug free?
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Wayne Joerding
> Professor of Economics Ofc: 509-335-6468
> Washington State University email: joerd@mail.wsu.edu
> Pullman WA 99164
>
>
--
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NeXTMAIL & MIME Welcome
"Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that
you do it." --Mahatma Gandhi
From: Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bundles of bundles (was Re: Weird, but repeatable Mail.app crash)
Date: 27 Mar 1996 14:11:30 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <4jbiai$hr@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <4j783l$12li@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
<Pine.NXT.3.92.960326103752.8773D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4jae69$7tk@nn.fast.net>
In <4jae69$7tk@nn.fast.net> M. `Naj' Najarian wrote:
> Wow! So _that's_ the advantage of objects. This goes way beyond
> TickleServices, way beyond URLifier. I've never seen anything that
> would change/enhance not only the structure of a shrink-wrap app's
> menus, but even the buttons in its internal windows. I'm speechless.
> I've been an NS user for, I dunno, 5 years now, and I'm still
> awestruck.
Ahem. I hate to brag... No, actually, I love to brag but most of the time
I've sufficient self-control not to indulge. But you leave me no other
choice.
EnhanceMail has been on the sites for half a year and it does all of the
above and more. The difference ? The author had no access to any Mail.app
source code, APIs, or documenation, except for the stripped binary.
Carl Edman
From: song@cs.purdue.edu (Chang-Hyeon Song)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: gdb stuck
Date: 28 Mar 1996 09:13:07 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <4jdl73$pih@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Hi. I have a problem.
I am running 3.3 Intel. When I try to run gdb, it stuck.
It used to run OK before I tried to debug a Mathlink(Mathematica) installable
function. So I apply 3.3 Developer's patch 1 to see if it makes difference.
But no. Same problem.
I don't have .gdbinit. Running gdb with or w/o argument doesn't work.
Can anyone help?
Thanks in advance.
---
Chang Song (song@cs.purdue.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca>
Subject: fax software for USRobotics modems
Message-ID: <31582E0D.EAF@mpr.ca>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 09:49:01 -0800
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Is there any Fax software out there that will work
with the US Robotics modems.
It seems like everyone has steered clear of the
USR modems or pretty much anything but Zyxel or
Supra.
Any insite as to why this is the case?
Thanks
--
Scott Mewett
MPR Teltech Ltd. Burnaby, B.C.
mewett@mpr.ca ASCII Only
mewett@van.ark.com NeXTMail OK
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Winword Compatible Wordprocessor for NEXTSTEP?
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:41:02 +0100
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960328133616.22437B-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <4j88aj$si1@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be> <Pine.HPP.3.91.960326111214.29654A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <4jbbtq$sh@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4jbbtq$sh@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
On 27 Mar 1996, Uli Zappe wrote:
> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:
> [OpenWrite...]
> > - I'm heavily missing hyphenation algorithms.
>
> Ooops... Weren't you the one who stated that he could easily live without
> hyphenation just a few weeks ago in de.comp.sys.next???
>
Yes, this is correct. I _can_ live without it for personal use, I don't need
it. But I heavily miss it if I have to write an article for my work,
because there I'm forced to use left-right-aligned text, which I don't
use on any private document.
> > As far as I know there is only Frameworker left, which (as Adobe states)
> > "isn't worth developing anymore, because the requests for NEXTSTEP are
> > too small". Happy NEXTWorld.
>
> Besides the fact that it's called FrameMaker, where did Adobe state this?
Sorry for the spelling. Adobe stated it at Cebit'96, where I asked for it.
Greetings,
Boerny.
--
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny)
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/
scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Date: 28 Mar 1996 14:04:16 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4je690$2uf@news.its.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960311152719.10579C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu <Pine.HPP.3.91.960325142636.15587E-100000@hphalle0.informat <1996Mar26.112741.46192@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
frank@ifi.unibas.ch wrote:
> I'm astonished that nobody pointed to the Installer.app/chunk program.
> It is used to create files of a certain size. It is deliverd with avery
> NEXTSTEP release.
chunk is only available on NEXTSTEP machines; gsplit is available everywhere.
(Come to think of it, why didn't the developers at NeXT use gsplit and gnutar
instead of writing chunk and safetar? Oh, well....)
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: where does Edit.app put tmp files??
Date: 28 Mar 1996 16:09:52 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jedkg$e9l@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
hello,
I am using Edit.app on a pretty large bla.rtfd file with many inline pictures
(tiff and eps). This file is over 70MB by now. When I load the file into
Edit.app, the space on my root partition (/) goes away pretty fast, actually,
I don't have enough free space there any more to load the file into edit (i
made it on another computer)! Now the question is:
Where does Edit park its temporary files when reading a .rtfd file??
it is NOT a swapfile problem: swapfile is on another disk and stays small. I
also checked /tmp: nope (some files show up there, but they do not account
for all of the >70MB that vanishes on /, at least according to du -s .). I
also checked the /usr/spool and /private/spool dirs. nope.
Now I am out of options: where is the disk space?? If I knew, I could then
link that dir/file to another, bigger disk and could work again. Any help
greatly appreciated, please drop me an e-mail!
Bye,
Helmut
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FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <rbowman@mercury.Bridgewater.EDU>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 09:35:34 -0500
From: "Richard L. Bowman" <rbowman@Bridgewater.EDU>
Message-ID: <9603281435.AA01591@mercury.Bridgewater.EDU>
Subject: Finding FoundationKit
I am running NeXTstep 3.2 on black hoardware and downloaded OmniWeb
2.0 only to discover that it will not run without FoundationKit.
Where can I find this? Or do I absolutely need NeXTstep 3.3 to
find it?
Thanks.
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Dept. of Physics e-mail:
rbowman@bridgewater.edu
Bridgewater College phone:
540-828-5441
Bridgewater, VA 22812 FAX:
540-828-5479
"http://www.bridgewater.edu/departments/physics/physics.html"
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From: schildwa@informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Christian Schildwaechter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: jessycad
Date: 28 Mar 1996 17:14:29 GMT
Organization: RWTH -Aachen / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik
Message-ID: <4jehdl$gfb@news.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <315A30B0.4377@media.mit.edu>
"William J. Peterson" <peterson@media.mit.edu> writes:
>Has anyone got jessy cad to work, I have tried and
>failed. The package opens but when I click to
>launch it just disappears.
>Any Ideas
>Bill Peterson
>peterson@media.mit.edu
Sometimes ago I got JessyCAD to work by making a copy of
the french.lproj and renaming it to german.lproj. I have no
idea why this worked, I simply tried this. My preferences
look for german, english, french and than all the other
languages I'm unable to understand.
Give it a try, no guarantee (if this is spelled this way)
Christian
shington State University email: joerd@mail.wsu.edu
Pullman WA 99164
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mwang@jeanluc.dr.att.com (131A50000-WangM(DR3320)8)
Subject: Re: Finding FoundationKit
Message-ID: <DozsxM.2nr@bigtop.dr.att.com>
Sender: mwang@jeanluc (131A50000-WangM(DR3320)8)
Organization: AT&T
References: <9603281435.AA01591@mercury.Bridgewater.EDU>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 19:32:10 GMT
In article <9603281435.AA01591@mercury.Bridgewater.EDU>, "Richard L. Bowman" <rbowman@Bridgewater.EDU> writes:
|> I am running NeXTstep 3.2 on black hoardware and downloaded OmniWeb
|> 2.0 only to discover that it will not run without FoundationKit.
|> Where can I find this? Or do I absolutely need NeXTstep 3.3 to
|> find it?
|>
|> Thanks.
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------
|> -----
|> Dr. Richard L. Bowman
|> Dept. of Physics e-mail:
|> rbowman@bridgewater.edu
|> Bridgewater College phone:
|> 540-828-5441
|> Bridgewater, VA 22812 FAX:
|> 540-828-5479
|> "http://www.bridgewater.edu/departments/physics/physics.html"
|> --------------------------------------------------------------------
|> -----
You can find the Foundation Kit in
http://www.next.com
download the WebObject 3.3
and unzip and untar the package then you will
see the FoundationKit and you can delete the rest of the WebObject3.3 stuff.
Yes it will run under NeXTSTEP 3.2 . (however, I do not know if it runs under
the Black HW.?)
or you can try ftp.next.com under /pub/SoftwareDownloads
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bundles of bundles (was Re: Weird, but repeatable Mail.app crash)
Date: 28 Mar 1996 19:43:46 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Message-ID: <4jeq5i$jrt@news.acns.nwu.edu>
References: <4j3kof$8v0@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <4j783l$12li@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960326103752.8773D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4jae69$7tk@nn.fast.net> <4jbiai$hr@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu> wrote:
> Ahem. I hate to brag... No, actually, I love to brag but most
> of the time I've sufficient self-control not to indulge. But
> you leave me no other choice.
>
> EnhanceMail has been on the sites for half a year and it does
> all of the above and more. The difference ? The author had no
> access to any Mail.app source code, APIs, or documenation, except
> for the stripped binary.
Carl has much to brag about: EnhanceMail is extremely well
thought-out, tremendously useful, and (so far as I have been able
to determine in months of heavy use) absolutely robust. He's
promised even more functionality, with a way to use the Indexing
Kit to search old mail efficiently. Can't wait!
The fact that monkeys have |================================================
hands must give us pause. | Joshua W Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu
-- I. Asimov |================================================
From: zmahmood@site.gmu.edu (Zakir Mahmood (ELEN))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AVATAR help, please
Date: 28 Mar 1996 19:55:55 GMT
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Message-ID: <4jeqsb$3fd@portal.gmu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello:
I was wondering if someone out there has used the product called AVATAR. It is
by a company called International Data Systems. I is supposedly "automated
software that can convert/re-engineer application code from any source to any
new target environment." I would like to know if anyone has used this product
and what they think of it. I would like to know what types of files it can
convert and with what ease.Does it work with smalltalk, C++,cobol,vm,mvs?
what type of operating system(s) does it run under?
I would like to know what you think of it.
Any help in this regard would be greatly appreciated.
If you can share some information, please e-mail me at: zmahmood@gmu.edu
or at mahmood@usairln.usair.com
Thanks
Zakir
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Finding FoundationKit
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DozMLK.A5M@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:15:20 GMT
References: <9603281435.AA01591@mercury.bridgewater.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <9603281435.AA01591@mercury.bridgewater.edu>,
Richard L. Bowman <rbowman@Bridgewater.EDU> wrote:
>I am running NeXTstep 3.2 on black hoardware and downloaded OmniWeb
>2.0 only to discover that it will not run without FoundationKit.
>Where can I find this? Or do I absolutely need NeXTstep 3.3 to
>find it?
>
You can either get 3.3 or grab the "FoundationUserPatch" from NeXT. I can't
tell you exactly where it is, but it's in NeXTanswers.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Anybody compiled tin newsreader for NeXTStep (3.2)?
Date: 28 Mar 1996 19:34:23 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4jepjv$c0k@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I know this is possible to do, but seriously I couldn't compile an app to
save my life.
I have used tin on MIT's athena, and it is great (except it won't let you
search for unsubscribed newgroups).
Thanks to any samaritan who lives by the tty interface,
Lones
--
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E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 || of Technology is a Latin affectation
617-253-0914 (voice), -6915 (fax) || with which I strongly disagree.
lones@lones.mit.edu (NeXT mail OK) || Feel free to svbstitvte `u' as desired.
From: lkb@lkba.com (Larry Blische)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: rtf2html or similar converters
Date: 28 Mar 1996 20:24:45 GMT
Organization: Charm.Net Baltimore Internet Access, Hon (410) 558-3900
Message-ID: <4jesid$l6o@canton.charm.net>
Is there an RTF to HTML converter available?
What about for any of the popular word processors (WriteUp, TEX, whatever)?
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Systems/Etc.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Anybody compiled tin newsreader for NeXTStep (3.2)?
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DozxJ8.HI6@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 21:11:32 GMT
References: <4jepjv$c0k@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4jepjv$c0k@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
Lones A Smith <lasmith@athena.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>I know this is possible to do, but seriously I couldn't compile an app to
>save my life.
>
>I have used tin on MIT's athena, and it is great (except it won't let you
>search for unsubscribed newgroups).
>
>Thanks to any samaritan who lives by the tty interface,
>
I believe it's on peanuts (and possibly next-ftp) but can't recall exactly
where. I know I grabbed it about a year ago.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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Return-Path: <rbowman@mercury.Bridgewater.EDU>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 18:17:11 -0500
From: "Richard L. Bowman" <rbowman@Bridgewater.EDU>
Message-ID: <9603282317.AA02073@mercury.Bridgewater.EDU>
Subject: Re: Finding FoundationKit (running OmniWeb 2.0 on NextStep 3.2
On Thu, 28 Mar 1996 I <rbowman@mercury.Bridgewater.EDU> wrote:
> I am running NeXTstep 3.2 on black hardware and downloaded OmniWeb 2.0
> only to discover that it will not run without FoundationKit. Where can
> I find this? Or do I absolutely need NeXTstep 3.3 to find it?
> Thanks.
Thanks to all who sent me notes. OmniWeb 2.0 is now running and is a
great piece of software. But the route to the necessary FoundationKit is
not as clear as it seems. Here is the correct journey to it.
1. WebObjects (beta 3) does not come with FoundationKit. I had
donwloaded and installed it previously, and it did not allow OmniWeb 2.0
to run. WebServer also does not contain the necessary files.
2. The FoundationKit is not listed separately at the
http://wofapps1.next.com/ site or at the ftp wofapps site.
3. The necessary file is located in NextAnswers at a patch. (The
surrounding text says that it is only for NextStep 3.3!! However, if you
are using 3.2, it is the patch you need.) Find it at:
http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2116.htmld/2116.html
Then click on the file name near the end of the html page and download
the compressed patch package.
4. Open a terminal window, su to root privileges and issue the command:
/NextAdmin/Installer.app/Installer &
Then double click on the installer icon and open the patch package.
(Assuming it had been uncompressed already.)
5. Start OmniWeb 2.0.1, assuming you had installed it already.
6. Enjoy!!
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Bridgewater, VA 22812 FAX: 540-828-5479
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From: mwang@jeanluc.dr.att.com (131A50000-WangM(DR3320)8)
Subject: HELP---SoundBlaster 16 NO SOUND
Message-ID: <Dp07vs.AF2@bigtop.dr.att.com>
Sender: mwang@jeanluc (131A50000-WangM(DR3320)8)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 00:55:03 GMT
Hello NeXTSTEP Gurus:
I can not hear any sound from either the "line out" or the "speaker out"
port of my SoundBlaster 16bit ISA card:
I am using NeXTSTEP release 3.2
and was able to install the SoundBlaster driver, v2.01, 1994 by Amir Guindehi
(I ftped it from next-ftp.peak.org /pub/next/binaries/drivers)
After setting the IRQ, DMA parameters in the /usr/Devices/SoundBlaster.config
icon: to:
IRQ=10
DMA= 1 and 6
I/O Ports= 0x220
I have also hand soldered the L, R, GND wires from the back of my
Toshiba 3701 CD ROM drive to the CD IN (L,R,GND) pins on the sound card.
(It works, because under Window 3.1 I can play sound from cd rom to
either the head phone(speaker out port) or to my receiver(line out port))
So, hardware wise the connections are all correct.
*************
Has any one had the same problem or am I neglecting to setup something?
Does the V2.01 driver by Amir Guindehi only support the Speaker Out Port
?? (but neither ports work for me)
*************
Please HELP !!
Thank you very much.
Michael Wang
mwang@drmail.dr.att.com
From: "William J. Peterson" <peterson@media.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A High-Quality News Reader
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 02:55:41 -0500
Organization: Cyber Access Internet Services (617) 396-0491
Message-ID: <315B977D.3E2B@media.mit.edu>
References: <4iuqt9$qjd@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> <4ivi9n$cjo@usc.edu>
<Pine.NXT.3.92.960323115702.10972N-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4j8beb$2ps@nntp1.best.com> <4j9fpq$f39@usc.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
>
> In <4j8beb$2ps@nntp1.best.com> Gary I. Chang wrote:
> > NewsFlash is by far the best NewsReader on the NeXTStep
> > platform. Highly recommended.
>
> What makes NewsFlash better than RadicalNews?
>
> --Radical news looks goofy, it looks too..80's, but I
do like that you can skip threads by the page, by a
button. News Flash looks the best for sure.
bill Peterson
From: "William J. Peterson" <peterson@media.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Simple InterNeXT Starter
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 04:09:39 -0500
Organization: Cyber Access Internet Services (617) 396-0491
Message-ID: <315BA8D3.6BEC@media.mit.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have problems getting SIS to work. Every time I
try to set computer as Net Info server it panics
and reboots.
any suggestions
Bill Peterson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: helmut@nexcom.hanse.de (Helmut Schoenborn)
Subject: Re: getty or init hangs on login
Message-ID: <1996Mar27.101009.1519@nexcom.hanse.de>
Keywords: getty,init,ppp
Organization: Nexcom
References: <4j0den$3ok@hydra.acs.ttu.edu>
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 10:10:09 GMT
alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst) writes:
>Hello all. I have been plugging away with SJ Perkins PPP but have
>recently ran into a snag. I recently upgraded my modems to v34 and now
>have a problem (a coincidence I think). I think the problem resides
>somewhere after init or getty is going. I may have clobbered a file when
>the system crashed due to dirty modem signals (had phone line trouble
>too). In any case here is what is happening. When I try to come in over
>the modem I get:
>CARRIER 28800
>PROTOCOL: LAP-M
>CONNECT 38400
>NeXT / NXFax (osci) (ttydfb)
>osci login: alan
>P8^w'dw
>Where the password prompt becomes garbage and the login hangs at this
>point. I have tried reinstalling PPP (0.4.6), the serial port drivers,
>port server, and NXFax. I have also tried a different serial port card, I
>even upgraded the system bios, all to no avail. So I guess the problem is
>not with PPP, hardware, or drivers. It must be somewhere in the process
>of opening a terminal. All tips are appreciated.
Try to check the entry NXFax appends to /etc/gettytab.
Depending on your NXFax version (this is from 1.04) it should be like
NXFaxB::ap:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT / NXFax (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:p8:sp#38400:
^^ check especially for the double colons; my NXFaxInstaller only
put one colon there, thus producing garbage output.
The entry in the defaults database
NXFax MaxDTERate 38400
should contain the same baudrate.
--
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Rheingoldweg 13 voice +49 40 810 816
22559 Hamburg fax +49 40 811 93 74
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From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: Anybody remember RBrowser?
Message-ID: <Dp01uK.tt@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960326105427.8773G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:44:44 GMT
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes
> On 26 Mar 1996 William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote:
>
> > Can anybody tell me whether the amazing RBrowser was ever made available
> > for NS Intel, and whether it has been renamed, replaced, discarded,
> > withdrawn etc.
>
> Sure I remember it! I posted to -bugs awhile ago wondering why when I try
> to login as root I get 'login failed -- Shell inconsistent' (no one has
> answered that yet)
I received email from RBrowser's author some time ago on the same matter.
If I remember correctly he made Linux' bash responsible for that.
Juergen
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= What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder,
= when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee,
= when a politician's idea of social change is changing names
= when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: rtf2html or similar converters
Message-ID: <1996Mar29.140847.46215@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 29 Mar 96 14:08:47 MET
References: <4jesid$l6o@canton.charm.net>
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
In article <4jesid$l6o@canton.charm.net>, lkb@lkba.com (Larry Blische) writes:
> Is there an RTF to HTML converter available?
>
> What about for any of the popular word processors (WriteUp, TEX, whatever)?
> --
For Latex there is an latex2html converter around (check one of the
latex-archives). If I remember correct there is also an rtf2html converter
available, look at the peanuts archive or one of its mirrors
(I guess I have one on my Peanuts-CD, but I'm not absolutely sure)
Daniel
--
***************************************************************
Daniel Haas
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Universitaet Basel
email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please)
smail: D. Haas, Kreuzstrasse 150, D-79540 Loerrach, Germany
***************************************************************
From: robin@pswtech.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: zsh on a NeXTStation (Motorola)
Date: 29 Mar 1996 15:07:25 GMT
Organization: PSW Technologies
Message-ID: <4jgubd$evi@digdug.pswtech.com>
References: <960328080119.841AAFgM.wayne@keizai2>
joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu wrote:
: HI:
: I have recently found out about zsh and would like to use. I found that it
: had been installed on my Intel NextStep 3.3 but not on my NeXTStation
: (Motorola) running 3.3. Before I try to install zsh on my NeXTStation I
: though I should see if anybody knows why it wasn't installed on the Motorola
: hardware with the 3.3 system when it was on the Intel hardware.
It's on all of ours... In "/usr/bin/zsh". But you can get it from one of the
NEXTSTEP sites (among others) -- including the source code. Try running through
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next... Its in that tree somewhere.
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu
Subject: commanddict for Edit
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Message-ID: <960329094028.841AAFgQ.wayne@keizai2>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:40:28 GMT
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Organization: Washington State University
Hi:
Where can I find documentation for the .commanddict file. I have searched
the bookshelves and found nothing.
Thanks for the help.
Wayne
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Message-ID: <Dp1K41.qL@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Sender: js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <4je690$2uf@news.its.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 18:16:49 GMT
Chuck Swiger writes
> frank@ifi.unibas.ch wrote:
> > I'm astonished that nobody pointed to the Installer.app/chunk program.
> > It is used to create files of a certain size. It is deliverd with avery
> > NEXTSTEP release.
>
> chunk is only available on NEXTSTEP machines; gsplit is available everywhere.
>
> (Come to think of it, why didn't the developers at NeXT use gsplit and gnutar
> instead of writing chunk and safetar? Oh, well....)
May be the gnu stuff wasn't available at the time a chunk solution was
introduced within Nextstep?
Juergen
---
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= What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder,
= when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee,
= when a politician's idea of social change is changing names
= when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Finding FoundationKit
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:13:08 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960328130844.4531D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <9603281435.AA01591@mercury.Bridgewater.EDU>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: "Richard L. Bowman" <rbowman@Bridgewater.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <9603281435.AA01591@mercury.Bridgewater.EDU>
On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Richard L. Bowman wrote:
> I am running NeXTstep 3.2 on black hoardware and downloaded OmniWeb
> 2.0 only to discover that it will not run without FoundationKit.
> Where can I find this? Or do I absolutely need NeXTstep 3.3 to
> find it?
You do NOT need 3.3 (anymore) to use the FoundationKit. You can get the
'FoundationUserPatch' from NeXT and that will allow you to run (not
compile, just run -- I think) apps which use the FoundationKit.
I think you can get it from here.... It is part of a larger package that
you can get from this site:
http://wofapps1.next.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Betatron
TjL
ps: I've never heard the black machines called 'hoardware' before... I'm
trying desperately to figure out what unconscious psychological message is
being revealed here.
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info'
>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
From: gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de (Gerald Wildgruber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mailcrypt 3.4 and NeXT Emacs 4.12.NS3.3p1 compatibility ?
Date: 30 Mar 1996 13:43:43 +0200
Organization: Apatheia Corp.
Sender: gewil@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <x7pw9uvma8.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
Is anyone using the emacs pgp interface Mailcrypt (version 3.4.) with
Emacs_for_NeXTstep.4.12.NS3.3p1 ? They don't work together in my case.
When i'm in a mail buffer i can perform the following functions provided by
Mailcrypt:
- inserting my own public key with C-c / x
- encrypting with the recipients public key and signing the mail
with my own secret key, by doing C-c / e and C-c / s respectively.
Yet whenever i'm trying to decrypt mail adressed to me, pgp exits with this
message (in the *MailCrypt* buffer):
Pretty Good Privacy(tm) 2.6.3i - Public-key encryption for the masses.
(c) 1990-96 Philip Zimmermann, Phil's Pretty Good Software. 1996-01-18
International version - not for use in the USA. Does not use RSAREF.
Current time: 1996/03/20 18:37 GMT
File is encrypted. Secret key is required to read it.
Key for user ID: Gerald Wildgruber <gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
2048-bit key, key ID E9AABA8D, created 1996/03/18
---> Error: Bad pass phrase.
This message can only be read by:
Gerald Wildgruber <gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
<root@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
You do not have the secret key needed to decrypt this file.
The problem is, that i (gewil) had no chance to provide my passphrase, i
wasn't prompted for it, there has been no further interaction after the
command C-c / d.
I contacted the author of Mailcrypt, yet he told me that no-one ever
mentioned a similar problem, so i wonder if this has to do with the NeXT
port of emacs. I tested the pgp installation by doing everything from the
shell, and that worked well.
Any hints ?
Thanks
Gerald
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gewil@ue801be.ppp. once he starts really
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(NeXTMail and MIME
welcome)
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Date: 30 Mar 1996 03:55:17 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4jibb5$rdk@news.its.com>
References: <4je690$2uf@news.its.com> <Dp1K41.qL@euler.hnv.icem.de>
js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) wrote:
> Chuck Swiger writes
>> chunk is only available on NEXTSTEP machines; gsplit is available
>> everywhere.
>>
>> (Come to think of it, why didn't the developers at NeXT use gsplit
>> and gnutar instead of writing chunk and safetar? Oh, well....)
>
> May be the gnu stuff wasn't available at the time a chunk solution was
> introduced within Nextstep?
I suppose that's possible. The earliest dates I saw was 12/89 for
split and 6/89 for tar, but they may well have had earlier incarnations.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Finding FoundationKit
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:14:09 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960329131325.13416P-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <9603281435.AA01591@mercury.Bridgewater.EDU> <DozsxM.2nr@bigtop.dr.att.com>
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On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, 131A50000-WangM(DR3320)8 wrote:
> You can find the Foundation Kit in
> http://www.next.com
> download the WebObject 3.3
> and unzip and untar the package then you will
> see the FoundationKit and you can delete the rest of the WebObject3.3 stuff.
> Yes it will run under NeXTSTEP 3.2 . (however, I do not know if it runs under
> the Black HW.?)
Yes, I am using the patch on my 3.2 NeXTStation, and it works great.
TjL
--
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NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info'
>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anybody compiled tin newsreader for NeXTStep (3.2)?
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:22:33 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960329131638.13416Q-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4jepjv$c0k@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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To: Lones A Smith <lasmith@athena.mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4jepjv$c0k@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
On 28 Mar 1996, Lones A Smith wrote:
>
> I know this is possible to do, but seriously I couldn't compile an app to
> save my life.
>
> I have used tin on MIT's athena, and it is great (except it won't let you
> search for unsubscribed newgroups).
>
> Thanks to any samaritan who lives by the tty interface,
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/news/tin-1.22.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/news/tin.1.2.MAB.README
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/news/tin.1.2.MAB.gz
(I don't know if these are new or old, but there they are)
However, I really like PINE's interface, because I can use it both for
mail and news. The new version (3.92) added many great features as well.
It is at:
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z
or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine.pine.tar.gz
NeXT (m68k) binaries are in
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin/pine-bin.next
or
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed/pine-bin.next.Z
Enjoy
TjL
--
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NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info'
>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: zsh on a NeXTStation (Motorola)
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:12:49 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960329130840.13416O-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <960328080119.841AAFgM.wayne@keizai2>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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The best place to get zsh is:
ftp://ftp.sterling.com/zsh/
The latest zsh (2.6-beta13) works wonderfully on NS for Intel and m68k...
I use them both daily as my login shell (my Intel accont is telnet-only,
so I get a lot of use of it there).
I liked tcsh a lot, but zsh is so much more flexible I can't even describe
it. Every time I want to do something in zsh I can usually write a
function in a few seconds. Writing functions is much less trouble that I
thought it was.
And there is a script to change your tcsh/csh aliases into zsh
aliases/functions. I had a 300+ line .cshrc and it converted about 296 of
my aliases 100% correctly (and the others were commands tied into
csh-syntax)
I highly recommend it for anyone who uses Stuart/Terminal more than once a
week.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info'
>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
From: otto@olcs.com (Otto Lind)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Finding posix binaries (was Re: Samba problem ?)
Date: 30 Mar 1996 08:23:36 GMT
Organization: Otto Lind Consulting Services
Message-ID: <4jir28$bss@olcs.olcs.com>
References: <4j64fu$k7i@babylone.int-evry.fr> <we6ybomechh.fsf@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de>
In article <we6ybomechh.fsf@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de>,
strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de (Stephan Trebels ) writes:
> Absolutly correct. any posix prog, that accesses an external scsi disk
> through the next filesystems leaves a ref in the vfs. so the root
> umount failes, that's it.
>
> SO: never use -posix, if you use multiple disks. (I tried only two
> scsi disks of any kind.)
I would rephrase that "Don't ever use -posix, period". Unfortunately, I
made the naive assumption that NeXT wouldn't ever ship something that was
as @#$%^& up as the posix library, and compiled/installed several
executables with -posix and installed them in /usr/local. I would now
like to find all occurances of these executables and remove them from the
system.
Anyone have any ideas on how to find -posix compiled executables? Most of
the binaries in /usr/local are stripped, so I can't use nm on them.
Otto
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From: lemson@penguin.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: tcpdump on black NeXT
Date: 30 Mar 1996 16:47:57 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <4jjojt$cmp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
I have retrieved two versions of tcpdump 3.0 that purportedly work on
NEXTSTEP and I cannot make them work. libpcap compiles perfectly
(one of the packages has version "0.0.6" and one has "0.0"), and
tcpdump compiles perfectly.
I have bpf_NeXT-0.25-beta3 by Satoshi Adachi, and have installed it.
Therefore I have /dev/bpf* and the bpf LKS is loaded.
But when I run tcpdump, I cannot make it work with /dev/bpf0. What
is the syntax for tcpdump to make it use the bpf stuff?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
From: lemson@penguin.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Finding FoundationKit
Date: 30 Mar 1996 18:51:40 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <4jjvrs$j57@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960328130844.4531D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <Dp2t1L.pA@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) writes:
>In article
><Pine.NXT.3.92.960328130844.4531D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
>"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
>> You do NOT need 3.3 (anymore) to use the FoundationKit. You can
>> get the 'FoundationUserPatch' from NeXT and that will allow you to
>> run (not compile, just run -- I think) apps which use the
>> FoundationKit.
>I believe youa are wrong. the Readme from the FoundationUserPatch I
>got from peanuts says:
>2. Make sure your computer is running NEXTSTEP Release 3.3. (You can
>find the NEXTSTEP version number with the Workspace Manager
>application's Info Panel command.)
>Warning: Installing the NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Patch Update on a
>computer that isn't running NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 will result in
>unexpected problems.
>Did anybody really try it with NeXtstep 3.2?
>Michael
In the .info file, it says to use it with 3.2 or greater! I
believe you must have either 3.3 or EOF previously installed though.
(I have 3.2 with EOF Beta installed and OmniWeb 2.0 was crashing horribly
until I did this.)
Yes it does work just fine with 3.2 (on my machine!). It only updates
/usr/shlib/libFoundation_s.E.shlib.
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anybody remember RBrowser?
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 11:29:22 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960330112814.21496D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960326105427.8773G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <Dp01uK.tt@euler.hnv.icem.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <Dp01uK.tt@euler.hnv.icem.de>
On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Juergen Sell wrote:
> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes
> > Sure I remember it! I posted to -bugs awhile ago wondering why when I try
> > to login as root I get 'login failed -- Shell inconsistent' (no one has
> > answered that yet)
>
> I received email from RBrowser's author some time ago on the same matter.
> If I remember correctly he made Linux' bash responsible for that.
Well, I use 'zsh' but someone associated with the project said that 'zsh'
should work fine with RBrowser.... of course, that doesn't mean that he
was right....
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info'
>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: where does Dialup.app gets its settings?
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 11:39:10 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960330113523.21496G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: PPP Mailing List <nextppp@chinx1.thoughtport.com>
I've been trying to use Dialup.app to connect with my ISP ppp provider.
It seems that when I just invoke 'pppup' from the commandline the dialin
machine is not recognizing that as a request for PPP, but as a request for
a regular shell login.
When I try to connect via Dialup.app, it almost looks like it is about to
work, but it looks like it is not 'expecting' the right string. Here's
the pertinent log info:
Mar 30 10:55:21 host pppd[12112]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0
Mar 30 10:55:25 host chat[12114]: abort on (ERROR)
Mar 30 10:55:25 host chat[12114]: abort on (BUSY)
Mar 30 10:55:25 host chat[12114]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
Mar 30 10:55:25 host chat[12114]: timeout set to 80 seconds
Mar 30 10:55:25 host chat[12114]: send (ATZ^M)
Mar 30 10:55:25 host chat[12114]: expect (OK)
Mar 30 10:55:26 host chat[12114]: ATZ^M^M
Mar 30 10:55:26 host chat[12114]: OK -- got it
Mar 30 10:55:26 host chat[12114]: send (ATDt5551212^M)
Mar 30 10:55:26 host chat[12114]: expect (CONNECT)
Mar 30 10:55:26 host chat[12114]: ^M
Mar 30 10:56:49 host chat[12114]: ATDt5551212^Mxx3b]^^3`6;x^K4^?!>}kkjinthn[
^]hm^Mcbz/=hi^H*tAhq^?^H`k^_1l78aA^?mkT^?r?x
Mar 30 10:56:49 host chat[12114]: alarm
Mar 30 10:56:49 host chat[12114]: Failed
Mar 30 10:56:49 host pppd[12112]: Connect script failed
Mar 30 10:56:52 host pppd[12112]: Exit.
It almost looks like it is connecting, but then it gets dropped. I think it
gets dropped because it is expecting 'connect' and gets that whole string
of junk.
So, my question is, how do I tell it to expect that whole string of junk?
It starts out with the phone number I called (which isn't 5551212 BTW)
Where does Dialup gets its expect/send strings? It doesn't seem to be
using the same one as my regular 'pppup' script.
Any help appreciated.
TjL
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anybody remember RBrowser?
Date: 30 Mar 1996 21:43:51 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-h-05.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4jk9un$7rl@usc.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960326105427.8773G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <Dp01uK.tt@euler.hnv.icem.de>
<Pine.NXT.3.92.960330112814.21496D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In <Pine.NXT.3.92.960330112814.21496D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
[snip other stuff]
> Well, I use 'zsh' but someone associated with the project said that 'zsh'
> should work fine with RBrowser.... of course, that doesn't mean that he
> was right....
I use zsh and RBrowser (at the same time or whatever you want to call it),
and have had no problems yet. If course I could be wrong and just haven't
noticed all the problems, just thinking they were normal.....8-)
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
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===============================================================
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From: jsamson@agt.net (Jean-Paul Samson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Finding FoundationKit
Date: 30 Mar 1996 23:44:02 GMT
Organization: Public Live Access Network (PLAnet)
Message-ID: <4jkh02$6ju@tigger.planet.eon.net>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960328130844.4531D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <Dp2t1L.pA@nexus1.tng.oche.de> <4jjvrs$j57@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4jjvrs$j57@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
>michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) writes:
>>2. Make sure your computer is running NEXTSTEP Release 3.3. (You can
>>find the NEXTSTEP version number with the Workspace Manager
>>application's Info Panel command.)
>
>>Warning: Installing the NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Patch Update on a
>>computer that isn't running NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 will result in
>>unexpected problems.
>
>>Did anybody really try it with NeXtstep 3.2?
I installed the Foundation User Patch as provided in NeXTAnswers on my
machine running 3.2. I have never previously installed the Foundation
Kit. It is true that the installer says you must have version 3.2 or
greater of NeXTSTEP. I have had no problems whatsoever using this
Foundation Kit with Omniweb 2.0.
--
-= Jean-Paul (Sean) Samson =------= St. Albert, Alberta, Canada =-
-= jsamson@agt.net =-------------------------= NeXTmail welcome =-
From: vadim@physics.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Finding FoundationKit
Date: 31 Mar 1996 08:34:16 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Message-ID: <4jlg28$l0g@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960328130844.4531D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <Dp2t1L.pA@nexus1.tng.oche.de> <4jjvrs$j57@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) wrote:
> In article
> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960328130844.4531D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
> > You do NOT need 3.3 (anymore) to use the FoundationKit. You can
> > get the 'FoundationUserPatch' from NeXT and that will allow you to
> > run (not compile, just run -- I think) apps which use the
> > FoundationKit.
>
> I believe youa are wrong. the Readme from the FoundationUserPatch I
> got from peanuts says:
>
> 2. Make sure your computer is running NEXTSTEP Release 3.3. (You can
> find the NEXTSTEP version number with the Workspace Manager
> application's Info Panel command.)
>
> Warning: Installing the NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Patch Update on a
> computer that isn't running NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 will result in
> unexpected problems.
>
> Did anybody really try it with NeXtstep 3.2?
I did, on both black I white hardware, and it works just fine. Or at least
OmniWeb 2 works fine, I haven't tried other Foundation-dependent apps.
The funny thing is that while the ReadMe file for the FoundationUserPatch
tells you to use it for NS 3.3 only --- and indeed the patch itself resides
in the 3.3_patches directory in the NextAnswers --- The Installer.app
tells you the package is good for NS 3.2 or greater. And it does work
with NS 3.2.
As to the FoundationUserPatch being bundled with WebObjects, it was
bundeled with WO beta-1 but somehow dissapeared from the beta-3.
I have not yet checked the release version of WebObjects, but here is
a separate URL for the FoundationUserPatch:
http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/2117.compressed
Enjoy.
-- Vadim.
*****************************************************************************
Vadim S. Kaplunovsky, | vadim@bolvan.ph.utexas.edu (NextMail OK)
Associate Professor of Physics, | #include <std_disclaimer.h>
University of Texas at Austin. | #excuse bad_typing.
From: gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de (Gerald Wildgruber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: POP mail for NEXTSTEP
Date: 31 Mar 1996 12:59:47 +0200
Organization: Apatheia Corp.
Sender: gewil@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <x7pw9tsf3p.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <4iv4vp$d6q@news.eecs.umich.edu>
In-reply-to: Roland Telfeyan's message of 22 Mar 1996 21:10:17 GMT
To: Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@umich.edu>
In article <4iv4vp$d6q@news.eecs.umich.edu> Roland Telfeyan <telfeyan@umich.edu> writes:
For example, are there any POP mail clients or are there any POP enablers
for NeXT Mail?
One solution, as usually, is Emacs, in this case combined with the mail
subsystem VM (ver.5.95).
You only have to set the variable "vm-spool-files" to your POP
server. Whenever you do a M-x vm, emacs logs into the remote machine
prompting you for your password and then retrieves the mail. Here
is what the documentation says in "vm-vars.el":
SPOOLNAME is where the mail system leaves your incoming mail,
e.g. /var/spool/mail/kyle. It can also be a POP maildrop,
provided it can be matched by the value of vm-recognize-pop-maildrops.
A POP maildrop specification has the following format:
\"HOST:PORT:AUTH:USER:PASSWORD\"
HOST is the host name of the POP server
PORT is the TCP port number to connect to (should normally be 110).
USER is the user name sent to the server.
PASSWORD is the secret shared by you and the server for
authentication purposes. How is it used depends on the value of
the AUTH parameter. If the PASSWORD is \"*\", VM will prompt
you for the password the first time you try to retrieve mail from
maildrop. If the password is valid, VM will not ask you for the
password again during this Emacs session.
AUTH is the authentication method used to convince the server you
should have access to the maildrop. Acceptable values are
\"pass\", \"rpop\" and \"apop\". For \"pass\", the PASSWORD is sent to
the server with the POP PASS command. For \"rpop\", the PASSWORD
should be the string to be sent to the server via the RPOP
command. In this case the string is not really a secret;
authentication is done by other means. For \"apop\", an MD5 digest
of the PASSWORD appended to the server timestamp will be sent to
the server with the APOP command. In order to use \"apop\" you
will have to set the value of vm-pop-md5-program appropriately to
point at the program that will generate the MD5 digest that VM
needs.
Gerald
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gewil@ue801be.ppp. once he starts really
lrz-muenchen.de listening. - John Cage
(NeXTMail and MIME
welcome)
From: paulshin@mail.utexas.edu (Paul Shin)
Newsgroups: alt.corel.graphics,alt.soft-sys.corel.draw,claritw.computers.pc.software,comp.publish.cdrom.software,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FS: Adobe Pagemaeker 6.0 Full Version
Date: 31 Mar 1996 05:46:37 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin
Message-ID: <4jl67t$ce4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Brand new in the unopened boxes
Full version
$349
Plus shipping & COD if not local
Also available:
PageMaker 5.0 $99
Paul (512)602-6437 daytime
(512)443-5303 evening
From: kantian@integer.bekkoame.or.jp (Yutaka Segawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adobe Illustrator Version 3.0.1 for Black H.W.
Date: 31 Mar 1996 11:34:49 GMT
Organization: BEKKOAME INTERNET OSAKA
Message-ID: <4jlqkp$hmu@anzu.bekkoame.or.jp>
If your have "Adobe Illustrator Version 3.0.1"
and the file name is "Adobe_Illustrator3.0.1.app",
you had better chage from it to "Adobe_Illustrator.app".
And then you do double click *.ai ,*.ai88 or *.ai11 ,
they will open under the Adobe_Illustrator.app.
---
Yutaka Segawa
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: commanddict for Edit
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 08:25:17 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Mar31.082517.24743@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <960329094028.841AAFgQ.wayne@keizai2>
In article <960329094028.841AAFgQ.wayne@keizai2> joerd@wsunix.wsu.edu
writes:
> Hi:
> Where can I find documentation for the .commanddict file. I have
searched
> the bookshelves and found nothing.
Did you look in the Help for Edit? There is a topic entitled: "Add UNIX
commands to a menu"
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: getty or init hangs on login
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 09:11:44 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Mar31.091144.24851@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <1996Mar27.101009.1519@nexcom.hanse.de>
In article <1996Mar27.101009.1519@nexcom.hanse.de> helmut@nexcom.hanse.de
(Helmut Schoenborn) writes:
> alan@osci.me.ttu.edu (Alan A. Barhorst) writes:
> >osci login: alan
> >P8^w'dw
>
> Try to check the entry NXFax appends to /etc/gettytab.
> Depending on your NXFax version (this is from 1.04) it should be like
>
> NXFaxB::ap:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT / NXFax (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:p8:sp#38400:
>
> ^^ check especially for the double colons; my NXFaxInstaller only
> put one colon there, thus producing garbage output.
> The entry in the defaults database
> NXFax MaxDTERate 38400
> should contain the same baudrate.
I checked this on three systems. Two are 3.3, and one higher. All three
had the incorrect gettytab entries; one of the 3.3 machines was OK to
login to. Changing the gettytab entry fixed the problem for the other,
though. The double colon is only supposed to improve readability,
according to the manpage.
Paul
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?=)
Subject: Re: POP mail for NEXTSTEP
References: <4iv4vp$d6q@news.eecs.umich.edu> <4j9ibr$5lk@master.ftn.net>
Organization: North Net
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 10:32:08 GMT
Message-ID: <Dp4nxK.14n@proximus.north.de>
In article <4j9ibr$5lk@master.ftn.net>,
Stephen MacDougall <Stephen_MacDougall@radium.ca> wrote:
>ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/pop3d.NIHS.bs.gnutar.gz
>
>This will give you a POP3 server, which works wonderfully!!
Unfortunatelly, this pop3d does not support the UIDL-Command. Does
anyone know of a pop3d that works for NEXTSTEP and implements UIDL?
Thanks, Gerhard.
From: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AUFS/CAP/BPF performance...
Date: 31 Mar 1996 20:43:16 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <4jmqp4$59u@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
I've recently patched/compiled both BPF (32 devices, RINGBUFFER) and
CAP (v6.0pl196, Phase 2 Ethertalk only) for use with AUFS (as suplied
with CAP, no addiitional Defines). I have had no problems, save one:
the performance is abysmal (the server is a NeXTstation Color running 3.3pl1,
26MB RAM). Specifically, I'm lucky to get 2.2k per second transfer rates
between it and a Centris660AV located on the same subnet (2ft from the server).
Typical transfer rates on the subnet via ftp are ~500k/s.
I was wondering if anyone could suggest any performance tuning
suggestions. Perhaps I've made some common configuration error? Any
help would be appreciated.
Thanks much,
--
Ian P. Cardenas (icardena@uiuc.edu)
CCSO NeXT System Administrator, CCSO Sites Technical Support
"Are they as successful as who,Microsoft? Only drug lords from South America are
as successful as Microsoft." -Tim Byars, on the success of NeXT Computer, Inc.
From: Fran=?iso-8859-1?Q?=E7ois Talbot <FTalbot@cmq.qc.ca>?=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GAMES!!!!
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 18:09:39 +0000
Organization: Universite Laval
Message-ID: <315ECA63.7F9C@cmq.qc.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I insist: could anybody here tell me if there are any games playable =
on NeXT computers and, if yes, what are their titles and the kind of =
game they are. Thanks.
Fran=E7ois Talbot
(FTalbot@cmq.qc.ca)
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mail.app's 'RemoteFetch' dwrite
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:45:57 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960331194447.1754I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Is anyone out there useing Mail.app's RemoteFetch dwrite to get their mail
from another host?
If so, I'd like to know about it, especially over a PPP connection.
Thanks
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info'
>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock synchronization (automatically?)
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:31:36 -0500
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960331193015.1754D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net> <4j6ssg$8rj@zeus.intellinet.com> <4jk5br$p1r@zeus.intellinet.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: Dwight Everhart <everhart@alterlife.com>
In-Reply-To: <4jk5br$p1r@zeus.intellinet.com>
Well, I am glad you posted this, because I was going to ask you as well.
I am wondering if there is a way to have the clock's drift fixed
automatically (If I am reading your post correctly, then all it does is
report the drift, not correct it).
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info'
>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 1 Apr 1996 05:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4jnoou$2or@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
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eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
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related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
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- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
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Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.programmer.tools,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.misc,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.software-eng,comp.programming,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.linux.development.system,isu.isunix
Subject: OpenDoc with Corba and OPENSTEP/NEXTSTEP licensing...
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 00:29:23 -0600
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <315F77C3.4AC9@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Well now that OMG is integrating Corba with OpenDoc, wouldn't it make sense for NeXT to
integrate OpenDoc? Also Sun has OpenDoc as being the #1 most requested feature for
Java...
NeXT is supposed to be integrating Corba connectivity, so perhaps OpenDoc is inevitable.
Then all we need is OPENSTEP on MAC OS Power PC, but that will probably come from GNU
rather than NeXT. (It will probably be ported to PowerPC Linux too)
It seems the name of the game is cooperation and interoperability, not dominance with a
single OS or set of tools. Companies should realize this (NeXT are you listening?) The
more people can interoperate (make connections) with software they have, they will be
more prone to using those tools.
I'm trying to get my two object-oriented professors at my university
(Dr. Bee Lee Lim mailto:bllim@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu
and
Dr. Tibor Gyires mailto:tbgyires@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu)
to take a look at what OPENSTEP/NEXTSTEP can do for the software world, and I'm having a
dificult time convincing them that this is worthwhile as course curiculum. Dr. Gyires is
interested in SmallTalk (which I understand is VERY similar to Objective-C) and has
watched 2 NeXT videos (one on NS and another on WebObjects and D'OLE.), and I found that
Dr. Lim is only interested in OPENSTEP and its relation to Java after talking to him, his
concern is that much of the software industry and companies DON'T
USEOPENSTEP/NEXTSTEP.
I need assistance in getting this institution (Illinois State University) to adopt some
OPENSTEP curiculum because I feel these development tools are great, and they get me
excited about software.
If anyone has any valid arguments I can make, please email me or the two professors.
Thanks all
------------------------------------------------
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mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Technology
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"Understanding is best learned via experience."
"Follow our instinct, not a trend. Go against the grain until the end."
VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: POP mail for NEXTSTEP
Date: 1 Apr 1996 12:36:56 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <4joil8$kqi@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <4iv4vp$d6q@news.eecs.umich.edu> <4j9ibr$5lk@master.ftn.net> <Dp4nxK.14n@proximus.north.de>
Gerhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?= (gemoe@proximus.north.de) wrote:
: In article <4j9ibr$5lk@master.ftn.net>,
: Stephen MacDougall <Stephen_MacDougall@radium.ca> wrote:
: >ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/pop3d.NIHS.bs.gnutar.gz
: >
: >This will give you a POP3 server, which works wonderfully!!
: Unfortunatelly, this pop3d does not support the UIDL-Command. Does
: anyone know of a pop3d that works for NEXTSTEP and implements UIDL?
Take a look at the Mail.app masters homepage,
http://www.next.com/~lennart/Software.html. There's a patched popper
based on v1.831b, which also supports UIDL!
Gregor
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From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Finding Home after adding a new disk
Date: 1 Apr 1996 15:22:33 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <4josbp$1g21@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
Howdy,
A gig isn't what it used to be; thus, I added another Seagate Hawk drive to the
home system, copied my files over to the new drive, changed the home directory
in UserManager, and deleted my old home.
The problem is...when I power up the machine and log it it doesn't find my home
directory. However, if I log out and log back in, we do pop into my home
directory with the appropriate items listed in the dock and my "home" on the
browser shelf where god & NeXT intended.
I clearly took a shortcut someplace in relocating myself. Does anybody know how
to fix this behavior?
Thanks much,
Mark.
--
Dr. Mark Kotanchek
Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Dvorak Keyboard Layouts under NS/Intel
Date: 1 Apr 1996 16:29:53 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <4jp0a1$o47@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
As long as I'm on a posting streak....
I've been contemplating switching to a Dvorak keyboard layout in the hope that
such will address some of my carpal tunnel syndrome. Towards that end, I have a
couple of questions....
1) how "painful" is the transition to the new layout?
2) what happens if I need to work on someone else's machine which doesn't
have a Dvorak option?
3) any particularly good keymapping for a M$ Natural Keyboard?
4) I presume installing a Dvorak layout on my Mac Powerbook won't be much
of a problem. Is that an accurate assumption?
5) how do I go about installing a new layout...and then is there an app
to help me retrain myself?
I can type about 70 wpm on a QWERTY layout; I just can't sustain it for very
long anymore. :( No cracks about that being a side-effect of aging! ;)
Thanks for any help, pointers, caveats, anecdotes, etc.,
Mark.
--
Dr. Mark Kotanchek
Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb 2.0 Services
Date: 1 Apr 1996 15:10:11 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <4jorkj$183d@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
G'day,
I just tried to open a URL from within Mail via the usual <cmd>-U paradigm and,
thereby, discovered that I no longer have OmniWeb 2.0.1 publishing its
services.
Is this a new "feature" induced during the transition out of the beta stage or
am I missing something?
BTW, I like the new OmniWeb. Now, if I only had services and Java and... ;-)
Ciao,
Mark.
--
Dr. Mark Kotanchek
Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock synchronization (automatically?)
Date: 1 Apr 1996 18:05:07 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-f-14.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4jp5sj$rrs@usc.edu>
References: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net> <4j6ssg$8rj@zeus.intellinet.com>
<4jk5br$p1r@zeus.intellinet.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960331193015.1754D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<4jnbra$avv@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
> In <4jnbra$avv@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Carl Edman wrote:
> ntpd(8)
>
> % man ntpd | man2tjl
> Use ntpd to automatically continuously adjust the clock. This is
> preferable to running ntp periodically because (a) it will softly speed up
> and slow down the system clock as required rather than jumping backward and
> forward in time which may confuse some programs and (b) it remembers the
> typical drift of your system clock and will continue to adjust the clock
> even if for some period it can't access the external ntp servers. Use
> HostManager.app Network/Network Time Configuration... to set your ntp
> servers for ntpd.
(DIS_CLAIMER - I have read the ntp and ntpd man pages.)
Is this the preferred method for a dial-in ppp connection that is not always
up? (E.G. subpoint (b))?
Would you be kind enough to list the specific steps to set this up on a
standalone with a dial-in ppp connection?
I read the man page for ntpd, but am not exactly clear on whether I need to
create new host entries in HostMgr Network/Network Time Config with the name
of various ntp servers (like the navy), and whether I should be creating an
entry there for something on my machine as well (? doesn't sound right)
I'm also wondering if I should be changing
HostMgr / Local / Time Standard / Ignore Network Time
to
HostMgr / Local / Time Standard / Use Network Time
Anyway, I'm a bit confused and don't relish going into a weird boot mode
right now if I screw up.
Any help (designed for the blind) would be much appreciated.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock synchronization (automatically?)
Date: 1 Apr 1996 18:43:29 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-f-14.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4jp84h$rrs@usc.edu>
References: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net> <4j6ssg$8rj@zeus.intellinet.com>
<4jk5br$p1r@zeus.intellinet.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960331193015.1754D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<4jnbra$avv@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
Re my previous post for detailed information.
Okay, now I've read the relevant (I think) NextAdmin on-line stuff, so I
guess I can make a stab at it, but I'd still like to know first if it's okay
to activate ntpd with a dial-in ppp connection and will that have the desired
effect as per subpoint (b) in the man page?
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mdriftme@mail.wsu.edu (Marc J. Driftmeyer)
Subject: Re: Looking to buy NeXT Step Softwear for 486
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Message-ID: <Dp73yz.Kvn@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 02:14:27 GMT
References: <3153C7AD.4AB5@earthlink.net> <315926AA.7AD@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Organization: Washington State University
You can buy Release 3.3 User & Developer with EOF 1.0 for $299.99
academic pricing from NASCORP or contact NeXT directly at
1.800.TRY.NEXT and believe me alot of the software for NEXTSTEP
requires minimally Release 3.3 because of the OPENSTEP spec. Or you
can wait till June (approximately) when NEXTSTEP 4.0 (OPENSTEP for
Mach) comes out.
"Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> wrote:
>Donny W Chilla wrote:
>> I would like to buy a version of next step for my 486 pc
>> if you have a cd for sale mail me back!
>I have a copy of NEXTSTEP 3.2 Intel English forsale, make an offer- it's User...
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Eric A. Dubiel; http://138.87.201.11 Instructional
>mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Technology
>PEACE LOVE Services
>UNITY RESPECT Illinois State University
>"Understanding is best learned via experience."
>"Follow our instinct, not a trend. Go against the grain until the end." Unknown ....
>VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
Marc Jeffrey Driftmeyer
The Personal Computing Center
Information Technologies Bldg. Rm#2088
Washington State University
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http://www.wsu.edu:8001/~mdriftme
(509)335-0518 (work)
(509)335-0563 (fax)
From: sahirns@menger.stevens-tech.edu (Sahir N. Siddiqui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Playing audio cds on external player
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 01 Apr 1996 17:48:42 GMT
Organization: EE/CS Department, Stevens Institute of Technology, Hoboken, NJ
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <SAHIRNS.96Apr1124842@menger.stevens-tech.edu>
I have a NeXTstation TurboColor (Motorola). I just hooked up an
external cd player to it, and was wondering how to get it to play
audio cds through the speaker box.
The CDplayer has L & R audio-outs and a headphone out, but the speaker
box only has microphone-in and L & R audio-outs. How do I connect the
cdplayer to the speakerbox?
-s
--
Sahir N. Siddiqui Res: (201) 217-0952
PO Box 5176, Hoboken NJ 07030 ))))
oo-)
Email: sahirns@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu :_/
From: paulshin@mail.utexas.edu (Paul Shin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.pagemaker,alt.aldus.pagemaker,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.software,misc.forsale.computers.other.software,alt.aldus.pagemaker,comp.graphics.apps.pagemaker,austin.forsale,utexas.forsale,tx.forsale,alt.forsale,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,biz.marketplace.computers.other,biz.marketplace.computers.pc-clone,alt.corel.graphics,alt.soft-sys.corel.draw,claritw.computers.pc.software,comp.publish.cdrom.software,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: For Sale: Corel Draw 6.0 Full Version
Date: 31 Mar 1996 05:43:25 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: austin
Message-ID: <4jl61t$ce4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Sorry to disturb you who are not interested in seeing this kind of posts.
Brand new w/ reg. card, manuals, CD's
Full retail version
$389
Plus shipping & COD if not local
Paul (512)602-6437 daytime
(512)443-5303 evening
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: scott@ee.ucla.edu (Ryan Scott)
Subject: "Lines: " and Alexandra
Sender: news@seas.ucla.edu (News Daemon)
Message-ID: <Dp7AtH.8I2@seas.ucla.edu>
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 20:41:41 GMT
Organization: UCLA Electrical Engineering Dept.
Hi all,
Is there way to have the Alexandra news reader add a line to the
header of a post which indicates the number of lines in the post?
(ie, Lines: n, where n calculated by Alexandra). I know some other
news readers are able to count the number of lines in the post and
add the result to the header.
Thanks,
Ryan
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Winword Compatible Wordprocessor for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 1 Apr 1996 14:59:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4jpjj5$482@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <4j88aj$si1@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be> <Pine.HPP.3.91.960326111214.29654A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <4jbbtq$sh@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote:
>Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:
>[OpenWrite...]
>> - I'm heavily missing hyphenation algorithms.
>
>Ooops... Weren't you the one who stated that he could easily live without
>hyphenation just a few weeks ago in de.comp.sys.next???
>
>> As far as I know there is only Frameworker left, which (as Adobe states)
>> "isn't worth developing anymore, because the requests for NEXTSTEP are
>> too small". Happy NEXTWorld.
>
>Besides the fact that it's called FrameMaker, where did Adobe state this?
There may be a reasonable explanation, I requested price info for such a
product over a month ago & they have yet to respond.
--
Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS
Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Clock Sync w/ PPP? (was Re: Clock synchronization (automatically?))
Date: 2 Apr 1996 00:33:14 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
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I'd like to have the internal clock sync to one of the hyper sensitive
clocks available on the net everytime I connect via PPP.
Has anyone figured out how to do this?
Thanks...
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock Sync w/ PPP? (was Re: Clock synchronization (automatically?))
Date: 2 Apr 1996 00:55:50 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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<4jpska$k6b@news4.digex.net>
In <4jpska$k6b@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote:
>
> I'd like to have the internal clock sync to one of the hyper sensitive
> clocks available on the net everytime I connect via PPP.
>
> Has anyone figured out how to do this?
From the recent threads, it looks like using ntpd is better than ntp because
it will make the changes slowly. I gather to effect this one must
1) create a FQDN for the net time server;
2) select it in HostMgr (Network->Network Time Config) and mark the FQDN net
time server as a Master time server, while marking your machine as a Clone;
3) make appropriate change in Local to instantiate Network Time.
man ntpd states that it will still function during periods when it cannot
reach the network.
I don't know if the above is correct, and I am trying to figure out if it is
before I go ahead and do it. So if anyone knows what the right procedure is
I'd love to hear it.
I would also know if one should be using (A) multiple network time servers,
and if so then should they all be labelled as masters in HostMgr; and (B)
network timeservers that are in your specific timezone.
--
Be well,
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From: acoustic@netcom.com (Yee On Lo)
Subject: seg faults on emacs
Message-ID: <acousticDp7HJ6.F14@netcom.com>
Summary: get seg faults when i type `emacs' on 3.3 (black hardware)
Keywords: emacs 18.55.118, nextstep 3.3
Sender: acoustic@netcom16.netcom.com
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 23:06:42 GMT
When i type `emacs' at the prompt i get
Fatal error (11).Segmentation fault
I can do `emacs myfile' and edit a new or existing file, but emacs
segfaults at other times---e.g., if i try to go to a new file
(C-X C-F).
The version is 18.55.118.
Any pointers?
``sum /usr/bin/emacs'' gives ``44622 584'' Could there be corruption?
Thanks for any info anyone can provide.
yeeOn
acoustic@netcom.com
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock synchronization (automatically?)
Date: 2 Apr 1996 04:48:48 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4jqbjg$hpu@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net> <4j6ssg$8rj@zeus.intellinet.com>
<4jk5br$p1r@zeus.intellinet.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960331193015.1754D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<4jnbra$avv@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <4jp84h$rrs@usc.edu>
In <4jp84h$rrs@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> Re my previous post for detailed information.
>
>
> Okay, now I've read the relevant (I think) NextAdmin on-line stuff, so I
> guess I can make a stab at it, but I'd still like to know first if it's
okay
> to activate ntpd with a dial-in ppp connection and will that have the
desired
> effect as per subpoint (b) in the man page?
ntpd works fine over PPP. I actually prefer xntpd which I run. However,
configuration is a pain so its just as well to use the one time '/usr/etc/ntp
-sf'. My clock never needs adjusting more than a few miliseconds each time
I bring up the link. If I'm within 20 seconds of the "real time" I'm happy.
In order that the log file doesn't overflow with connection error messages
when the link is down, I started xntpd in /etc/ppp/ip-up and killed it in
/etc/ppp/ip-down.
- Steve
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Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock synchronization (automatically?)
Date: 2 Apr 1996 07:06:49 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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<4jnbra$avv@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <4jp84h$rrs@usc.edu>
<4jqbjg$hpu@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
In comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc you wrote:
> ntpd works fine over PPP. I actually prefer xntpd which I run. However,
> configuration is a pain so its just as well to use the one time
> '/usr/etc/ntp -sf'. My clock never needs adjusting more than a few
> miliseconds each time I bring up the link. If I'm within 20 seconds of the
> "real time" I'm happy.
>
> In order that the log file doesn't overflow with connection error messages
> when the link is down, I started xntpd in /etc/ppp/ip-up and killed it in
> etc/ppp/ip-down.
Well, I just set up like this:
I used tick..... from the navy and set it up as a FQDN via NetInfo
Then in HostMgr I made it a Master, and my machine a Client
Then in HM -> Local I changed to Use Network Time
I see what you mean by error messages when I'm down.
I also noticed " %> Local_Fax_Modem: /dev/cufa is locked " in console when
I'm PPP-upped, which leads me to think the thing isn't working.
In any case, I'd prefer to not have all those ntpd error messages when I'm
not linked up.
Would you mind mailing me the exact lines you use to bring up ntpd and bring
it down.
Should I keep all the stuff I configured (as per above) MINUS the Local ->
Use Network Time?
Finally, will ntpd, as you've set it up, report what it's doing in the
console?
Thanks very much in advance for any answers to the above!
BTW what is xntpd ? And why do you like it better?
From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.0 Services
Message-ID: <1996Apr2.094816.46235@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 2 Apr 96 09:48:16 MET
References: <4jorkj$183d@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
In article <4jorkj$183d@hearst.cac.psu.edu>, mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) writes:
> G'day,
>
> I just tried to open a URL from within Mail via the usual <cmd>-U paradigm and,
> thereby, discovered that I no longer have OmniWeb 2.0.1 publishing its
> services.
>
> Is this a new "feature" induced during the transition out of the beta stage or
> am I missing something?
Perhaps you have to activate your desired services in the Preference.app
and type cmd-u (lowercase u) to update the WorkspaceManager (or log out
and back in)
Daniel
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Subject: Which automatic phone answering software to use?
Message-ID: <Dp54rn.3qC@galileo.pr.net.ch>
Sender: stefano@galileo.pr.net.ch (Stefano Unternaehrer)
Organization: Home in Tenero, Switzerland
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 16:35:47 GMT
Hi folks!
I've a NeXT slab running 3.2, and 2 ZyXEL modems, one to each serial port.
I also have two phone lines, one handled by the Elite2864 and used for
uucp (mails,newsgroups), rlogins and faxes (NXFax); the second line is the
normal phone line for voice messages :-) My U1496E+ modem as nothing to do,
and would like to help us when we are unable to answers calls...
so I'm looking for a simple but robust program, better when free.
I've tryied AtTheBeep and like the interface, but it simply doesn't never
respond, don't know why. It also isn't able to quit, and I have to kill it!
I know of others programs, but never tryied: am (free?) and mix (hot price...).
Others?
Any suggestions, opinion, remark?
Many thank in advance.
Be well,
Stefano
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Casa Manuela - 6598 Tenero Switzerland - Europe
phone: +41 91 745 3073 fax: +41 91 745 3064
NeXTMail: Stefano@Galileo.pr.net.CH
From: Ayis T. Pyrros <ayis@esg.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock Sync w/ PPP? (was Re: Clock synchronization (automatically?))
Date: 2 Apr 1996 08:51:21 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware
Message-ID: <4jqpq9$kgf@news.udel.edu>
References: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net> <4j6ssg$8rj@zeus.intellinet.com> <4jk5br$p1r@zeus.intellinet.com> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960331193015.1754D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4jpska$k6b@news4.digex.net>
The most common method of time synchronization over the internet is
ntp. ntp or network time protocol contacts a server of your choice over the
internet and accounts of the transmission delay to synchronize your clock.
* To setup ntp with ppp you first need to launch HostManger.app in
/NextAdmin.
* Login as root go to the menu Network and click on Network Time
Configuration.
* A panel will appear asking you to select the NetInfo Domain, select
the root domain or the '/' in the left column.
* Another window will now appear listing the machines under the root
domain, select your machine. Check the box next to Time Service Enabled.
Click set and ignore the master and clone settings, unless you have a network
of computers and you wish to setup a time server for them.
* Quit, HostManager.app and launch NetInfo.app, once again select the
root domain by going to Domain/Open and selecting '/.'
* Now go to locations/ntp there should be a directory labeled server, if
not go to Directory/Insert Value and now enter your ntp server name.
To select a server, if you don't know one, visit
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/clock1.html, this page contains a list of
public primary and secondary servers. Please read and note the "Rules of
Engagement."
On boot up ntp will display a message that it cannot contact your timeserver.
This occurs, obviously, because you have not launched ppp yet. Additionally,
in the Preferences.app you will no longer be able to set the clock by hand,
unless you are root. Instead a synchronize button and a message stating that
you are running network time daemon will appear for the Date & Time
Preferences. By clicking the synchronize button you invoke ntp and
synchronize your clock, a message will also appear in the console log.
Since connection times through ppp can vary greatly I suggest that the
following line be added to your crontab.local:
5,20,35,50 * * * * root /bin/sh `/usr/etc/ntp -F your.time.server >
/dev/console`
This will insure that your clock will be set when you are connected for at
least 15 minutes.
I hope that helps.
Ayis
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From: acoustic@netcom.com (Yee On Lo)
Subject: Re: seg faults on emacs
Message-ID: <acousticDp7ox9.6o8@netcom.com>
Summary: i should also mention that sometimes i get ``memory exhausted''
Keywords: emacs 18.55.118, nextstep 3.3
Sender: acoustic@netcom17.netcom.com
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
References: <acousticDp7HJ6.F14@netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 01:46:21 GMT
I should also mention that sometimes i also get
``memory exahusted'' errors, when running emacs (18.55.118) on nextstep 3.3.
Any pointers, including RTFM types, are welcome.
yeeOn
acoustic@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTSTEP <---> Macintosh
From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay)
Date: 2 Apr 96 12:04:31 GMT
Message-ID: <1749692.43471.6714@kcbbs.gen.nz>
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
At an organisation that I work at part time we have a LINUX box with an
AppleTalk server on it so my Mac can get at some UNIX files and print
etc...
I want to get at that from my NeXTstation at home via PPP, but I have
3.3 and the old AppleTalk.pkg that came with 3.0 doesn't seem to be
around. I assume they obviously discontinued it -- has anybody tried to
install the 3.0 AppleTalk package onto 3.3?
Can anybody suggest any more "sensible" ways of doing this without
spending.
a.l
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From: knguyen@callisto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ftp app.
Date: 2 Apr 1996 12:58:13 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jr895$l1o@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Hi all,
Is there any ftp app. for NeXT where I can ftp sub-directories
recursively?
Any hint is appreciated,
Happy ftp-ing,
Khanh
From: lph@sei.cmu.edu (Larry Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP <---> Macintosh
Date: 2 Apr 1996 13:59:27 GMT
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Message-ID: <4jrbrv$ogi@news.sei.cmu.edu>
References: <1749692.43471.6714@kcbbs.gen.nz>
In article <1749692.43471.6714@kcbbs.gen.nz> apl@kcbbs.gen.nz
(Andrew Lindesay) writes:
<snip>
>I assume they obviously discontinued it -- has anybody tried to
>install the 3.0 AppleTalk package onto 3.3?
>
Yes.
Installing the package from the 3.0 distribution didn't work.
So I snooped around on a backup of my 3.2 system and found
stuff in /usr/lib/kern_loader/Appletalk that was not in the
original package. I restored from the backup, rebooted,
and everything was cozy.
> ls -l /usr/lib/kern_loader/AppleTalk/
total 78
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 27216 Mar 26 10:18 atalkks_loadable
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root 51314 Jul 27 1992 atalkks_reloc*
(So I guess it's just the first one...)
I can't swear that there was something else I'm forgetting
now, but this should put you on the right course.
--
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Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon University
lph@sei.cmu.edu (NeXT Mail OK) (412) 268-6397
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: Finding FoundationKit
Message-ID: <Dp2t1L.pA@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960328130844.4531D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:27:21 GMT
In article
<Pine.NXT.3.92.960328130844.4531D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
> You do NOT need 3.3 (anymore) to use the FoundationKit. You can
> get the 'FoundationUserPatch' from NeXT and that will allow you to
> run (not compile, just run -- I think) apps which use the
> FoundationKit.
I believe youa are wrong. the Readme from the FoundationUserPatch I
got from peanuts says:
2. Make sure your computer is running NEXTSTEP Release 3.3. (You can
find the NEXTSTEP version number with the Workspace Manager
application's Info Panel command.)
Warning: Installing the NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 Patch Update on a
computer that isn't running NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 will result in
unexpected problems.
Did anybody really try it with NeXtstep 3.2?
Michael
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From: markdo@mail.myriad.net (Mark A. Doucet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tiffs from NeXT to DOS?
Date: 2 Apr 1996 18:42:44 GMT
Organization: DigiPhone Corporation, Bryan/College Station Texas 409-693-8885
Message-ID: <4jrsf4$2d4@news.myriad.net>
There seems to be some kind of incompatibility between Tiffs for NeXT
and Tiffs for DOS. I have saved some tiffs to a dos disk from my NeXT
but they won't properly load into my software on the DOS box. Anyone
run into this same kind of problem before? If so, do you have a
solution as to how to make this work?
--
Mark A. Doucet
Dominion Technologies, LTD.
"Solutions for the Next Generation"
markdo@mail.myriad.net
409.778.3615
From: clarke@acme.ist.ucf.edu (Thomas Clarke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to Upgrade NeXT Cube to 3.x??
Date: 2 Apr 1996 19:18:15 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida
Message-ID: <4jruhn$5kg@news.cc.ucf.edu>
I use an original 68040 Nextcube still running NeXTstep 2.0 for
mail and other net chores. Could see no reason to upgrade.
Lately, I've been wanting to put a web browser on it and I have
discovered that all the browsers need 3.x.
Can anyone point me to an ftp site or other source for a 3.x
upgrade for a 68040 cube? We used to have to go through
Florida State in Tallahassee for stuff, but they long ago
lost interest.
Thanks.
Tom Clarke
Hoarder of NeXT cube spare parts.
From: Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: seg faults on emacs
Date: 2 Apr 1996 13:53:15 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <4jrbgb$eer@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <acousticDp7HJ6.F14@netcom.com>
In <acousticDp7HJ6.F14@netcom.com> Yee On Lo wrote:
> When i type `emacs' at the prompt i get
> Fatal error (11).Segmentation fault
>
> I can do `emacs myfile' and edit a new or existing file, but emacs
> segfaults at other times---e.g., if i try to go to a new file
> (C-X C-F).
You are probably using an emacs binary which was dumped on another version of
NS. Get an emacs dumped on your version of NS.
Carl Edman
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: What app for processing .eps graphics (and .ps files)
Date: 2 Apr 1996 21:02:11 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4js4kj$d93@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Hallo,
I would like to ask about experiences with application for processing
PostScript graphics in .eps files and optionally also .ps documents.
I have seen Tailor.app, but I would like to try more apps before we decide
to buy.
Some time ago I saw a press release for such an app with academic pricing. I
cannot find the posting anymore.
Could anyone please help me? Apps with option for academic pricing would be
very welcome.
Thanks, a nice day to all.
Rudy Blazek
blazek@stt.msu.edu
From: shenning@Cornell-Iowa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem with Digital Webster
Date: 2 Apr 1996 21:14:19 GMT
Organization: Cornell College, Mount Vernon, IA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4js5bb$ats@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu>
References: <Dp54rn.3qC@galileo.pr.net.ch>
I just noticed that Digital Webster has stopped working. I think that I
installed another program that made it mad. At least this is the best
explanation I can think of.
The problem is that if I type in a word and hit return (or click define) it
looks for a bit and dies. I have found that if I close the dictionary and
just use the thesaurus it works fine. Also, if I misspell a word it gives a
list of possible words. I think it is actually finding the definition, but
dying when it tries to display the info.
I have deleted the Webster package(s) and reinstalled, but the problem still
persists.
Can anybody tell me what is going on here? I wonder if a library was
corrupted, but I haven't found it yet.
Thanks,
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From: patrick@opensource.com (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: What app for processing .eps graphics (and .ps files)
Date: 3 Apr 1996 00:31:22 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jsgsq$g3a@trane.opensource.com>
References: <4js4kj$d93@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
In article <4js4kj$d93@msunews.cl.msu.edu> blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf
B. Blazek) writes:
> Hallo,
> I would like to ask about experiences with application for processing
> PostScript graphics in .eps files and optionally also .ps documents.
> I have seen Tailor.app, but I would like to try more apps before we
decide
> to buy.
> Rudy Blazek
> blazek@stt.msu.edu
Well, the Tailor application has educational pricing, for one. There are
two versions of Tailor, "Office" (what most people need) and "Publisher"
(high-end features like spot color, precise align, export to Adobe
Illustrator, etc.)
The commercial price on Tailor Office is $495 - edu pricing is 50%, or
$248.
More information can be found on the WWW at
http://www.opensource.com/Software/Graphics/Tailor.html
There is also a Macintosh version of Tailor out now as well (but the
NEXTSTEP version has more features). More info on the Mac version at
http://www.enfocus.com/ .
Cordially
--
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OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012 Denver, CO 80203
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: mwang@jeanluc.dr.att.com (131A50000-WangM(DR3320)8)
Subject: HELP:---SoundBlaster 16 --No Sound
Message-ID: <Dp9Grq.L34@bigtop.dr.att.com>
Sender: mwang@jeanluc (131A50000-WangM(DR3320)8)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 00:45:25 GMT
Hello everyone,
I am sure some of you out there have Sound Blaster 16 (not SB16 Plug and Pray)
running with NeXTSTEP 3.2. (Yes the board with lots of jumpers not the PnP which has 1? jumper)
Can you tell me what driver are you using?
I have used driver from
next-ftp.peak.org under /pub/next/binaries/drivers/
SoundBlaster driver V2.01 written by Amir Guindehi
or I have also used driver from
www.next.com under NeXTanswers/NABrowse?/NEXTSTEP/Intel_Configuration_Information/
/Drivers/3.2_Drivers/Beta/ 1695 SoundBlaster16Driver.pkg
Both installed fine and both are using
IRQ 5
DMA Low=1 High=5
I/O Port Address = 0x220
but I just can not get the sound to go from CD ROM to the "line out" or "speaker out" port on
the face plate of the sound card.
I have L,R,GND cable connected from CD ROM to CD IN of sound card. (Hardware wise is ok,
because under DOS WINDOW 3.1 everything works fine)
I have also noticed the usual "Boink", "Beep", "Blip" kind of error sound will not be send to
the sound card.
Also the Nice Lady's voice tells you the printer is out of paper is also missing.
What can be going wrong???
Please HELP !!
Thanks !!!
Michael Wang
mwang@drmail.dr.att.com
From: Chris Trimble <trimble@panix.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Left out for updates? And what about price reductions...
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 1996 21:24:46 -0500
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC
Message-ID: <3161E16E.532D@panix.com>
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I'm interested in buying a NeXTSTEP/486 or (reluctantly) an old
NeXTStation with the developers option. As I keep progressing into
new things I want to work on, I think thinking back to when I was
coding on a NeXT in school. Simply put: NeXTSTEP is the best
development environment I've ever worked with. I'm sick of
Codewarrior and the MacAPI, emacs/gcc/dbx can't be even called a
development environment, and I'm not interested in VisualWorks (plus
it's too expensive).
So, ne concern I have in looking at people's posts to sell
NeXTSTEP/486 and NeXT slabs/boxes whether I would be left out in the
cold for an update to 4.0. Will I have to pay a large premium? Any
ideas?
Second, does anyone know if NeXT is planning to reduce the cost of
their developer's license at all? $2.5K seems a little much for
someone who's buying for home/fun development. NeXT should seriously
consider reducing this cost for people who don't need EDO and database
coding tools. Or have they?
thanks for any info,
Chris
From: peterson (William J. Peterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: publish magazine review of next software
Date: 3 Apr 1996 01:56:07 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <4jslrn$6ib@news.tiac.net>
Does anyone know what the piece of software was that was mentioned in publish
magazine? I was supposed to be sort of a photoshop/quark/illustrator rolled
into one.
thanks
bill p
From: tholland@pars.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for freeware Drawing program
Date: 3 Apr 1996 00:00:50 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY 12866
Message-ID: <4jsf3i$uh@saims.skidmore.edu>
Keywords: drawing
Anybody know of a freeware drawing program for NeXT ?
(black hardware)
thanks !
A. Holland
Skidmore College
From: schultz@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Stewart Schultz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: How to change finger display?
Date: 2 Apr 1996 14:42:00 -0800
Organization: University of Oregon
Message-ID: <4jsafo$7tm@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
Is there a simple way to change the NeXT finger command so that it
returns only the .plan contents, and no login information?
If a fingerd is available, perhaps one could simply delete the
portion that looks in a system file for login info?
Thanks,
-SS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Quantrix
Message-ID: <RDL.96Apr2223025@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 03:30:25 GMT
As a former Lotus engineer (on Improv), I just wanted to say that Lighthouse
Design did a superb job with their latest Quantrix spreadsheet. If you want
to see a really cool NEXTSTEP user interface, look no further than it. I
believe the latest version is 2.2.
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
From: everhart@alterlife.com (Dwight Everhart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock synchronization
Date: 30 Mar 1996 20:25:31 GMT
Organization: IntelliNet-ISP, LLC. 1-800-290-7677
Message-ID: <4jk5br$p1r@zeus.intellinet.com>
References: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net> <4j6ssg$8rj@zeus.intellinet.com>
In <4j6ssg$8rj@zeus.intellinet.com> I wrote:
> In <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net> James C. Lin wrote:
>
> > My NeXTcube clock is drifting and like to find a program to
> >synchronize the clock with my network server. Can anyone suggest me a
> >utility?
>
> NTP is a standard part of NEXTSTEP and should do what you need. It works
> over a LAN and over the Internet. I use it to set my computer's clock to
> the Navy's atomic clock every time I bring up my PPP link. Search for NTP
> in Librarian for more info.
I have received a couple of requests for details about how to use NTP over
the Internet, so here they are:
There are several hosts on the Internet that provide NTP service. To
synchronize your clock with the Navy's clock, just execute the following
command after bringing up your PPP link:
/usr/etc/ntp -sf tick.usno.navy.mil
It will say something like this:
tick.usno.navy.mil: delay:0.409510 offset:30.225530 Sat Mar 30 13:45:47 1996
The delay is how long the network lag is between your computer and the NTP
server. In this example, it was almost half a second. NTP automatically
takes this delay into account when setting the time. The offset amount is
how much your clock was adjusted. In this example, it was 30 seconds slow.
If the offset amount is negative, your clock was fast. The time printed at
the end is the new, correct time.
You can also use tock.usno.navy.mil for the hostname. The Navy runs two
servers at that site. There are also other NTP servers on the Internet. For
a list of them and for more information on network time synchronization, see
http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ntp.html.
There are other commands for synchronizing clocks, but they're not as
sophisticated as ntp. One of them is rdate, which you can use like this:
/usr/ucb/rdate tycho.usno.navy.mil
If you are using the free PPP for NEXTSTEP, you can put the ntp command in
your /etc/ppp/ip-up script so that it's executed every time your PPP link is
brought up. If you want to see the output from the command, you'll need to
view in on the console:
/usr/etc/ntp -sf tick.usno.navy.mil 2>&1 >>/tmp/console.log
--
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Ex Nicole Bobek Coach It is too late for the pebbles to vote."
Bella Vista, Arkansas -- Ambassador Kosh, _Babylon 5_
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: How to Upgrade NeXT Cube to 3.x??
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <Dp9y0E.82@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 06:57:50 GMT
References: <4jruhn$5kg@news.cc.ucf.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4jruhn$5kg@news.cc.ucf.edu>,
Thomas Clarke <clarke@acme.ist.ucf.edu> wrote:
>Can anyone point me to an ftp site or other source for a 3.x
>upgrade for a 68040 cube? We used to have to go through
>Florida State in Tallahassee for stuff, but they long ago
>lost interest.
>
You'll have to buy it from NeXT, through, I believe, Object Technologies (or
whatever they now call themselves.) It's $299 Academic.
>Hoarder of NeXT cube spare parts.
Smart thing to do. ;-)
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: "Tony \"Chow\" Chow" <greenboy@ucla.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Preferences Clock Screwing Up!!!!
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 01:27:49 -0800
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <31624495.33F2@ucla.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
For some reason unbeknownst to me, that otherwise likeable clock that
Preferences.app provides insists on staying 7 hours ahead of the system
clock. So if I correct the Preferences clock, the system clock gets
screwed, and if I then correct system clock, the Preferences get screwed
again. Anyone has a remedy?
From: "Tony \"Chow\" Chow" <greenboy@ucla.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can't login at >19200!!!
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 01:36:42 -0800
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <316246AA.4F30@ucla.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
For some reason if I set the modem baud rate to anything higher than
19200 in remote, the connection immediately spits garbage consisting of
random f's and x's, thereby barring me from logging on to my Internet
service provider. Any help greatly appreciated.
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Finding FoundationKit
Date: 3 Apr 1996 02:23:47 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4jsnfj$qf1@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <9603281435.AA01591@mercury.Bridgewater.EDU> <Pine.NXT.3.92.960328130844.4531D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Richard L. Bowman wrote:
>
> > I am running NeXTstep 3.2 on black hoardware and downloaded OmniWeb
> > 2.0 only to discover that it will not run without FoundationKit.
> > Where can I find this? Or do I absolutely need NeXTstep 3.3 to
> > find it?
>
> You do NOT need 3.3 (anymore) to use the FoundationKit. You can
> get the 'FoundationUserPatch' from NeXT and that will allow you
> to run (not compile, just run -- I think) apps which use the
> FoundationKit.
>
> I think you can get it from here.... It is part of a larger
> package that you can get from this site:
>
> http://wofapps1.next.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Betatron
Do not download the webobjects archive to get the foundation
kit. It's not in there any more. Get it from NeXTanswers.
The NeXTanswer alludes to mysterious things happening if you
try to install the patch on NS-3.2. Offhand, I have trouble
believing it, particularly since the package file itself says
that it require NS-3.2 or better. I wouldn't evey try it if
you were running anything earlier than 3.2, though.
---
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Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
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Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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Date: Mon, 1 Apr 96 22:11:58 +0200
From: Raf Schietekat <flexus!rfschtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be>
Message-ID: <9604012011.AA15023@flexus.fotek.com>
Subject: Unix man glitches
Hello experts,
I hope this is the proper newsgroup. I don't have access to any others using an
e-mail gateway, so...
I have fetched a program containing a .man page with the text
``An \*S System'',
but if this is printed to PostScript or viewed with /usr/ucb/man, only a wider
or an extra space shows up. Is this a bug?
There is a table that prints fine to PostScript, but the vertical lines in it
are not printed correctly to a terminal: first the table is printed, then the
first vertical line is printed below it, then the second vertical line below
all of that, then the third below all of that. Any comments?
Man page available for testing, just ask. Is there an on-line spec for troff
anywhere?
NB: Please reply (also) by e-mail, as I don't subscribe for digests from this
newsgroup.
Thanks,
Raf Schietekat, RfSchtkt@maze.ruca.ua.ac.be (NeXTmail), Flanders, Belgium
If I don't answer: my mail relay can't handle !, % or .uucp, I think
*** The year 2000 will be the last year of the 20th century. ***
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: looking for Axsys or Fiscal Dimension
Date: 3 Apr 1996 17:25:58 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <4jucb6$j0g@news.tamu.edu>
Keywords: axsys, fiscal dimension
Does anyone know about the company Axsys or their product Fiscal
Dimension? Email to info@axsys.com times out and bounces and the phone
that is listed from NextAnswers 'cannot be completed as dialed'.
I have looked at their Fiscal Dimension - Personal version demo and heard
they have a 'business' version that I would like to look at. Checksum is a
little too limited, especially in it's reporting and I could not
understand the QuantaFlow accounting package.
Any pointers would be appreciated,
Stephen
From: Fran=?iso-8859-1?Q?=E7ois Talbot <FTalbot@cmq.qc.ca>?=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTSTEP emulator?
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 13:32:12 +0000
Organization: Universite Laval
Message-ID: <31627DDC.7A64@cmq.qc.ca>
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Still me! Is there any kind of NeXTSTEP emulator for macintoshes =
'cause I'd like to see how NeXTSTEP exaclty runs but there are no =
NeXT-equipped computers near where I live...
Fran=E7ois Talbot
FTalbot@cmq.qc.ca
From: im@stokes.Stanford.EDU (Hong Geun Im)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,commp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Help! - Network problem with my Next
Date: 3 Apr 1996 18:29:10 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jug1m$apt@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Dear NeXT gurus:
I have a Next machine with OS version 2.0 in my office. It has been
working fine so far. Suddenly, since yesterday,
I cannot log into any other machines on the net, and it's totally
isolated. I can still log into my machine from outside, but it takes
quite long to get in.
when I reboot my Next, I noticed a message showing something like
"can't find my address".
Any idea? Please help me out.
Hong
--
===============================================================
Hong G. Im, Center for Turbulence Research, Bldg. 500
Stanford, CA 94305-3030 im@stokes.stanford.edu
===============================================================
From: daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 8 vs 7 bit uucps
Date: 3 Apr 1996 18:53:42 GMT
Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University
Message-ID: <4juhfm$b7h@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
I've been successfully using uucp, logging into a
server that converts 7 bit to 8 bit.
However, such servers are being phased out and the
new ones just expect 8 bit.
I am unable to successfully use uucico with these new
8 bit servers.
I suspect the problem is that NeXT's uucico uses 7 bit
protocol.
Is there a version that uses 8 bit? A public domain version?
Anything?
I'm running NS 3.2 on black 040 h^A^R
I'm running NS 3.2 on black 040 hardware.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
(Please cc: to my email address.)
David Jaffe
daj@ccrma.stanford.edu
From: daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fax software for US Robotics 28.8 modem
Date: 3 Apr 1996 18:56:23 GMT
Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University
Message-ID: <4juhkn$b8n@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Is there Fax software that works with the US Robotics
28.8 Sportster modems?
I've managed to successfully configure this modem
for PPP (after some thrashing) and would now like to
be able to use it to send/receive faxes as well.
(not at the same time as the ppp, obviously).
From: giddings@menominee.menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anybody remember RBrowser?
Date: 3 Apr 1996 19:09:00 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison
Message-ID: <4juicc$qfs@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <4j8lf4$lbg@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
In <4j8lf4$lbg@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote:
> Can anybody tell me whether the amazing RBrowser was ever made available
> for NS Intel, and whether it has been renamed, replaced, discarded,
> withdrawn etc.
>
> William Clocksin
> Computer Laboratory
> University of Cambridge
> wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk
>
I had some email correspondence with the author (about a month ago) and he
stated it will be available for OpenStep. So it sounded like it is moving
forward.
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From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: publish magazine review of next software
Date: 3 Apr 1996 19:23:02 GMT
Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content
Message-ID: <4juj6m$ifc@miwok.nbn.com>
References: <4jslrn$6ib@news.tiac.net>
In <4jslrn$6ib@news.tiac.net> William J. Peterson wrote:
> Does anyone know what the piece of software was that was mentioned in
publish
> magazine? I was supposed to be sort of a photoshop/quark/illustrator rolled
> into one.
>
> thanks
>
> bill p
>
>
Hi There:
The review was for the OneVision system. The review was favorable towards the
software, but questioned how successful it could be in the US market, given
that it's not Mac/Quark, etc. etc.
I had a fairly long look at it. It really is extremely impressive. For one
thing, its PS and PDF editing is outstanding. For example, column text is
converted into a fully editable text column, with full typographical control.
What this means is that kerning, leading info is maintained. Bitmap images
can be edted using tools common to apps such as Photoshop or TIFFany.
In these respects, the PS/PDF edting goes well beyond what Tailor does.
Overall OneVision is squarely focused on the needs of high end production
users. in this arena, I think it will be successful in the US as it has been
in Germany. It also happens to be a fully capable creative tool for layout,
illustration, image processing/retouching. For this, the challenges it faces
in the market are pretty daunting.
Anybody who's interested should send e-mail to info@onevision.de
I have no affiliation with them, I've just seen the product.
Best regards,
John C. Fox
GS Corporation
john@gscorp.com
http://www.gscorp.com
From: giddings@menominee.menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Maple for Nextstep
Date: 3 Apr 1996 19:28:33 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison
Message-ID: <4jujh1$qfs@news.doit.wisc.edu>
Today I inquired with Maple to see which version is available for NextStep,
and whether Maple V version four would be available in the future. The woman
I talked to in tech support was quite friendly, and said that V.3 will be
released in the "near future" for NextStep, but that no concrete plans had
yet been made for V.4.
Importantly, she said that they keep track of customer feedback, so calls
expressing interest in V.4 for Nextstep are the best way to make it happen.
I would like to minimize the number of times I have to boot into Winblows 95,
and having Maple available for NS would help.
So if you are interested in seeing Maple V.4 on NS (or OpenStep), give them a
call at:
(519) 747-2373.
BTW - has anyone done a comparison of any of the Maple V versions to
Mathematica 2.2? I am thinking of buying Maple instead of paying the large
upgrade fees to Wolfram, so any comparisons would be appreciated.
Thanks,
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From: edwintam@webhk.com (Edwin TAM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock synchronization (automatically?)
Date: 3 Apr 1996 09:32:32 GMT
Message-ID: <4jtgjg$nqa@hkt001.hkt.net>
References: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net> <4j6ssg$8rj@zeus.intellinet.com> <4jp84h$rrs@usc.edu>
reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote:
>Re my previous post for detailed information.
>
>
>Okay, now I've read the relevant (I think) NextAdmin on-line stuff, so I
>guess I can make a stab at it, but I'd still like to know first if it's okay
>to activate ntpd with a dial-in ppp connection and will that have the
desired
>effect as per subpoint (b) in the man page?
I tried on a machine which is PPP'ed to the Net without success, the ntpd
just quit immediately. Another machine which is LAN'ed to the Net works fine.
NeXT-PPP 2.2 if it does matter.
Edwin
>
>--
>Be well,
>
>Matthew Reichman
>reichman@scf.usc.edu
>USC-CNTV
>NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
>NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
>
>===============================================================
>PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
>
--
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From: Ray Ryan <rjrjr@lighthouse.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Quantrix
Date: 3 Apr 1996 18:10:51 GMT
Organization: Lighthouse Design, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4juevb$qc6@nntp1.best.com>
References: <RDL.96Apr2223025@world.std.com>
The Quantrix team scuffs its collective toe, blushes, and says, "Gee,
thanks!"
rjrjr
--
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From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Preferences Clock Screwing Up!!!!
Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 21:00:29 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Apr3.210029.4643@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <31624495.33F2@ucla.edu>
In article <31624495.33F2@ucla.edu> "Tony \"Chow\" Chow"
<greenboy@ucla.edu> writes:
> For some reason unbeknownst to me, that otherwise likeable clock that
> Preferences.app provides insists on staying 7 hours ahead of the system
> clock. So if I correct the Preferences clock, the system clock gets
> screwed, and if I then correct system clock, the Preferences get screwed
> again. Anyone has a remedy?
What time zone are you in? It sounds like you have European time set
instead of Californian.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: ver65osc@email.sjsu.edu (me)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OminiWeb!!! Where????
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 15:32:03 +0800
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <ver65osc-0304961532030001@physlab4.sjsu.edu>
Where can I download OminiWeb for a Black 040?
Help greatly appreciated.
Me:)
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock synchronization (automatically?)
Date: 4 Apr 1996 00:07:22 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4jv3rq$1ead@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net> <4j6ssg$8rj@zeus.intellinet.com> <4jp84h$rrs@usc.edu> <4jtgjg$nqa@hkt001.hkt.net>
edwintam@webhk.com (Edwin TAM) wrote:
>>
>>Okay, now I've read the relevant (I think) NextAdmin on-line stuff, so I
>>guess I can make a stab at it, but I'd still like to know first if it's
okay
>>to activate ntpd with a dial-in ppp connection and will that have the
>desired
>>effect as per subpoint (b) in the man page?
>
>I tried on a machine which is PPP'ed to the Net without success, the ntpd
>just quit immediately. Another machine which is LAN'ed to the Net works
fine.
>
>NeXT-PPP 2.2 if it does matter.
>
Put the enclosed line into our /etc/ppp/ip-up file. It will adjust the time
just once every time you connect using PPP. It will get the time from two
primary time servers (NASA and US Army atomic clock). You must replace these
adresses with some time servers in your local area as soon as you can so that
these primary servers don't get overloaded - that is their policy.
People connected via etherned can put the line into /private/adm/daily so
that the system clock gets updated once a day.
Just a note. I got these answers from good people in these newsgroups (except
for the primary time servers). Thanks goes to them.
Good luck,
Rudy
blazek@stt.msu.edu
Here is the line:
/usr/etc/ntp -s norad.arc.nasa.gov tick.usno.navy.mil
From: tm8025a@american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Preferences Clock Screwing Up!!!!
Date: 4 Apr 1996 01:28:12 GMT
Organization: American University, Washington DC
Message-ID: <4jv8jc$aps@paladin.american.edu>
References: <31624495.33F2@ucla.edu>
In <31624495.33F2@ucla.edu> "Tony "Chow" Chow" wrote:
> For some reason unbeknownst to me, that otherwise likeable clock that
> Preferences.app provides insists on staying 7 hours ahead of the system
> clock. So if I correct the Preferences clock, the system clock gets
> screwed, and if I then correct system clock, the Preferences get screwed
> again. Anyone has a remedy?
>
Are you in the "correct" time zone? Check preferences-->time preferences
--
Torrey McMahon
American University School of Communication
System Administrator, WebMaster, and Security Consultant
NeXT, MIME, and ASCII
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for freeware Drawing program
Date: 4 Apr 1996 01:19:36 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4jv838$8o3@news.iastate.edu>
References: <4jsf3i$uh@saims.skidmore.edu>
Anthony Holland writes
> Anybody know of a freeware drawing program for NeXT ?
> (black hardware)
>
> thanks !
>
> A. Holland
> Skidmore College
It's not "free", but it's very very very cheap, since you have an edu
address, to get Diagram2 By Lighthouse. This is, quite simply, one of the
very best drawing programs in existence on any platform. Lots and lot of
features, easy to use, extensible palettes, etc. etc. I believe that the
student cost is just $25, but if I were you I would come up with $100 and
get the academic CD. This gives you Diagram, Concurrence (presentation
software), a couple spread sheets, WetPAint (another absolutely fantastic
"drawing program" for bitmaps instead of EPS and much more. The single
best software purchase I have ever made.
Oh..... you also get OmniWeb with it, which would be okay if only version
2 would work with the interactive teaching documents my project is
developing, sigh.....
Hope that this helps --- Tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779
Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
Project Coordinator: Undergraduate Computational Engineering and Sciences
http://uces.ameslab.gov/
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: "Lines: " and Alexandra
Date: 2 Apr 1996 20:04:41 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4js18p$9u1@news.its.com>
References: <Dp7AtH.8I2@seas.ucla.edu>
scott@ee.ucla.edu (Ryan Scott) wrote:
> Is there way to have the Alexandra news reader add a line to the
> header of a post which indicates the number of lines in the post?
> (ie, Lines: n, where n calculated by Alexandra). I know some other
> news readers are able to count the number of lines in the post and
> add the result to the header.
Why do you want Alexandra to do that? The NNTP server adds it's own headers,
including a "Lines:" header, when you post. For example, the full headers of
your own message was:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Path:
news.its.com!news3.agis.net!agis!news6nt.agis.net!news1.agis.net!agis!news.wa
lltech.com!news.aimnet.com!netserv.com!news.mathworks.com!gatech!newsfeed.int
ernetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!zephyr!news
From: scott@ee.ucla.edu (Ryan Scott)
Subject: "Lines: " and Alexandra
Sender: news@seas.ucla.edu (News Daemon)
Message-ID: <Dp7AtH.8I2@seas.ucla.edu>
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 20:41:41 GMT
X-Nntp-Posting-Host: vader.ee.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Electrical Engineering Dept.
X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82)
Lines: 11
Xref: news.its.com comp.sys.next.software:23469
As you can see, a Lines: header is present.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: brian@wintermute (RHS Linux User)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Benchmarks
Date: 4 Apr 1996 03:43:50 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4jvghm$kb9@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Followup-To:
Keywords: NEXT benchmarks
Summary: any next benchmarks?
Distribution: world
I was wondering if there have ever been any NEXT benchmarks comparing the next
machines with intel hardware (which I am familiar with).
I understand that it is a warped judgement, but I would liike to get a rough
estimate.
Am I right that 40's are similar to , say, 486-50's or something?
Thanks,
Brian Hoort
Michigan State University
From: rwakeman@thoughtport.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: publish magazine review of next software
Date: 4 Apr 1996 03:01:39 GMT
Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc.
Message-ID: <4jve2j$ojc@chinx4.thoughtport.net>
References: <4jslrn$6ib@news.tiac.net>
In-Reply-To: <4jslrn$6ib@news.tiac.net>
On 04/02/96, William J. Peterson wrote:
>Does anyone know what the piece of software was that was mentioned in
publish
>magazine? I was supposed to be sort of a photoshop/quark/illustrator
rolled
>into one.
>
onevision
Reply to
hans@onevision.de
From: "Gerard T. Curd" <gcurd@tricon.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How to Upgrade NeXT Cube to 3.x??
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 22:58:29 -0800
Organization: Tri-Cities Connection
Message-ID: <31637315.5E93@tricon.net>
References: <4jruhn$5kg@news.cc.ucf.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Thomas Clarke wrote:
>
> I use an original 68040 Nextcube still running NeXTstep 2.0 for
> mail and other net chores. Could see no reason to upgrade.
> Lately, I've been wanting to put a web browser on it and I have
> discovered that all the browsers need 3.x.
>
> Can anyone point me to an ftp site or other source for a 3.x
> upgrade for a 68040 cube? We used to have to go through
> Florida State in Tallahassee for stuff, but they long ago
> lost interest.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tom Clarke
> Hoarder of NeXT cube spare parts.
Tom,
Lighthouse in California is selling 3.2 User for $25 and developer for $100. According to
lighthouse these are upgradable to 3.3 when you need to. Hope it helps.
GTC
From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Benchmarks
Message-ID: <1996Apr4.101103.46250@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 4 Apr 96 10:11:03 MET
References: <4jvghm$kb9@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
In article <4jvghm$kb9@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, brian@wintermute (RHS Linux User) writes:
> I was wondering if there have ever been any NEXT benchmarks comparing the next
> machines with intel hardware (which I am familiar with).
> I understand that it is a warped judgement, but I would liike to get a rough
> estimate.
> Am I right that 40's are similar to , say, 486-50's or something?
> Thanks,
> Brian Hoort
> Michigan State University
>
As far as I remember, they have been compared in the beginning
(sorry, this is a long time ago, so I don't have any numbers).
I guess the 040/25 MHz compared to a 486/33 and the 040/33 to
a 486/50 or 66. But in these old days, the Nexts had mostly the
better graphic performances then the Intel boxes (today with
newer PCI graphic cards, the Intel would be better)
BTW if you plan to install Nextstep 3.3 on a Intel 486, I'm
still using my black 040/25 station, and while it is not
extremely fast, it has a good performance for your normal
work, and for this I would not even trade it for anything
else (except a Nextstep system)
Daniel
***************************************************************
Daniel Haas
Physikalisches Institut
Universitaet Basel
email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please)
smail: D. Haas, Kreuzstrasse 150, D-79540 Loerrach, Germany
***************************************************************
From: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: LaTeX 2e package for NS for Intel: where ?
Date: 4 Apr 1996 09:07:25 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Message-ID: <4k03gd$21d@mo6.rc.tudelft.nl>
Recently someone issued the NS for Intel version of LaTeX 2e. Where can I
find it ?
Abraham G.
_____________________________________________________________________
Abraham Guyt P.O.Box 356
Department of Information Systems 2600 AJ Delft
Faculty Technical Mathematics & Informatics The Netherlands
Delft University of Technology tel: +31 15 78 5969
E-mail: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl NeXT-mail welcome
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock synchronization (automatically?)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 2 Apr 1996 12:47:09 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Message-ID: <4jr7kd$1gjq@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net> <4j6ssg$8rj@zeus.intellinet.com> <4jqjm9$o1@usc.edu>
Matthew N. Reichman (reichman@scf.usc.edu) wrote:
> I see what you mean by error messages when I'm down.
> I also noticed " %> Local_Fax_Modem: /dev/cufa is locked " in console when
> I'm PPP-upped, which leads me to think the thing isn't working.
Nope, to my knowledge, thats a harmless diagnostic message resulting
froim running the fax modem and the ppp modem from the same physical
(but not logical) interface. "/dev/cufa is locked", well, yes, it is
of course, since the modem is in use. No problem. Terminate PPP, and
you'll be able to fax again.
Just ignore it, or filter it out (is there a news Spy.app that
supports filters BTW?).
All the best,
Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.."
// neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
// +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tiffs from NeXT to DOS?
Date: 3 Apr 1996 14:17:47 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Message-ID: <4ju1ab$dv0@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <4jrsf4$2d4@news.myriad.net>
Mark A. Doucet (markdo@mail.myriad.net) wrote:
> There seems to be some kind of incompatibility between Tiffs for NeXT
> and Tiffs for DOS. I have saved some tiffs to a dos disk from my NeXT
> but they won't properly load into my software on the DOS box. Anyone
> run into this same kind of problem before? If so, do you have a
> solution as to how to make this work?
Rule of thumb is, every graphical application can write Tiff,
but none can read it. Tiff is not a format, but a container for
many subformats that not all readers implement.
Worse yet, while blatantly ignoring the specs, some readers
can only read one platform dependant byte ordering (look at
the first few bytes.. Motoral Tiffs have MM at the start,
Intel Tiffs have II). In that case, you can never move from
DOS to Mac/UNIX or vice versa.
To read NeXT Tiffs on other plattforms, save them without
alpha, don't use JPEG compression, and don't use two bit
depth. Then it _might_ work (depending on your PeeCee
application and how well it can read Mac/UNIX Tiffs).
If it doesn't work, use GIF as Transfer format. You're
limited to a bit color in that case, however.
Best wishes,
Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.."
// neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
// +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tiffs from NeXT to DOS?
Date: 4 Apr 1996 14:55:01 GMT
Organization: ALI
Message-ID: <4k0ns5$r2r@cetus.ali.bc.ca>
References: <4jrsf4$2d4@news.myriad.net>
In comp.sys.next.software Mark A. Doucet wrote:
> There seems to be some kind of incompatibility between Tiffs for NeXT
> and Tiffs for DOS. I have saved some tiffs to a dos disk from my NeXT
> but they won't properly load into my software on the DOS box. Anyone
> run into this same kind of problem before? If so, do you have a
> solution as to how to make this work?
The problem is that the TIFF standard is very flexible, but that
a lot of programs (esp. under DOS) which purport to read TIFFs
actually only read a small proportion of the possible kinds of
TIFFs.
Your best bet to get something that DOS can read is:
a) Turn off alpha channel and save as either an 8-bit gray
or 24-bit color TIFF with no compression.
b) Get GifOMatic.app and write the images as GIFs.
--
Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca
ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317
Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468
* NeXT and MIME mail welcome *
System Manager Voice: (402)472-9747
Mathematics and Statistics Dept. FAX: (402)472-8466
University of Nebraska - Lincoln http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/
From: Dominik Westner <dominik@gowest.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock synchronization (automatically?)
Date: 4 Apr 1996 16:56:58 GMT
Organization: TeDoc, Munich, Germany
Message-ID: <4k0v0q$9g@cube.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
References: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net> <4j6ssg$8rj@zeus.intellinet.com> <4jqjm9$o1@usc.edu>
Hi,
well, for dial-up connections I think ntp is a bit too oversized.
I use
rdate <any Internet host>
which I call everytime I log in, within my ppp-up script (rdate must
be run as root).
There is also a small command tool, I think it's name is
correctclock. With this programm you can correct your clock if your
system clock is too slow/fast and you don't have access to the
internet. Usually you call it once a day by cron.
You can find it for example at http://peanuts.leo.org/ (I don't
remember the exact url)
so long
--
Dominik
---
Dominik Westner
"Everything is possible in an infinite universe"
_____________________________________Willi, the painter
Munich, Germany (NOT :-)
From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Benchmarks
Date: 4 Apr 1996 16:16:01 GMT
Organization: ALI
Message-ID: <4k0sk1$r2r@cetus.ali.bc.ca>
References: <4jvghm$kb9@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
In comp.sys.next.software brian@wintermute wrote:
> I was wondering if there have ever been any NEXT benchmarks
> comparing the next machines with intel hardware (which I am
> familiar with). I understand that it is a warped judgement, but
> I would liike to get a rough estimate. Am I right that 40's are
> similar to , say, 486-50's or something?
Try the URL:
ftp://ftp.uptime.ch/pub/RANKING_V2.2.rtf
for an RTF page given NXBench results for a variety of
NeXTSTEP capable systems.
Kudos to the folks at Uptime for maintaining NXBench
and George Fankhauser for writing the original app.
--
Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca
ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317
Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468
* NeXT and MIME mail welcome *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL
Subject: Re: 8 vs 7 bit uucps
Message-ID: <DpCp3J.1FF@RnA.NL>
Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: R&A
References: <4juhfm$b7h@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 18:38:07 GMT
In article <4juhfm$b7h@nntp.Stanford.EDU> daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe)
writes:
> Is there a version that uses 8 bit? A public domain version?
> Anything?
Look for the NeGeN/NiNe distribution of Gnu/Taylor UUCP.
ftp://ftp.nl.net/pub/comp/next/
--
Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: Stephen Travis Pope <stp@ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem: SPARC/Solaris mounting of NeXT disks
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 08:55:32 -0800
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, Dept. of Music, U. C. Santa Barbara
Message-ID: <3163FF04.167E@ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
We have a mixed workstation environment, with Next HW, SunOS machines, and
SPARCs running Solaris. Our main home directory disk is on a NeXT cube, and
the Sun OS 4.1 machine mounts it AOK, but the new Solaris machine doesn't.
It mounts just fine, but whenever you try to access the mounted disk, it times
out before NFS replies. This looks like the following (where volta is a Sun
Ultra running Solaris 2.5, and foxtrot is a NeXT cube.)
[volta:/home/stp]_5: mount
[. . . stuff deleted--lots of NFS mounts . . .]
/net/fox on foxtrot:/ bg/read/write/soft/intr/rsize=2048/wsize=2048/remote
on Wed Apr 3 12:55:19 1996
(i.e., volta can nfs mount foxtrot's disk)
[volta:/home/stp]_6: ls -l /net/fox
NFS readdir failed for server foxtrot: error 5 (RPC: Timed out) <-- The problem!
total 1587
drwxr-xr-x 5 root 1024 Jul 26 1995 Library
drwxrwxr-x 102 root 4096 Jan 23 17:49 LocalApps
drwxrwxr-x 10 root 1024 Jul 12 1995 LocalDeveloper
[. . . stuff deleted . . .]
(i.e., foxtrot is there, but NFS is screwed up somehow.
The answer takes about a minute.)
Have any of you seen this before? Am I doing something obviously wrong?
Can someone point me to a place to rtfm?
...any reply appreciated...
stp
--
___Stephen Travis Pope, Editor--Computer Music Journal, MIT Press
___Research Director--CREATE, Dept. of Music, U. C. Santa Barbara
___stp@create.ucsb.edu http://www.create.ucsb.edu/~stp/
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for freeware Drawing program
Date: 4 Apr 1996 19:12:45 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4k16vd$vac@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
References: <4jv838$8o3@news.iastate.edu>
In article <4jv838$8o3@news.iastate.edu> tlm@ameslab.gov (Tom Marchioro)
writes:
Anthony Holland writes
> Anybody know of a freeware drawing program for NeXT ?
> (black hardware)
>
> thanks !
>
> A. Holland
> Skidmore College
It's not "free", but it's very very very cheap, since you have an edu
address, to get Diagram2 By Lighthouse. This is, quite simply, one of the
very best drawing programs in existence on any platform. Lots and lot of
features, easy to use, extensible palettes, etc. etc. I believe that the
[munch]
Diagram is definitely worth having; however, I prefer Create for quick
free-form drawing and which also has a pretty reasonable academic price.
That said, you might also check out GraphBuilder which is an awesome
application in terms of capabilities. I've done stuff using GraphBuilder like
picking off points on a scanned image and plopping them on a polar graph that I
don't think I could have done otherwise. There's a bit of a learning curve
because of the extensive capabilities; however, it can do just about anything.
I believe that VVI has made it free as a teaser for their GraphObject libraries
and I think I've seen it at Peanuts in the recent past.
Mark.
--
Dr. Mark Kotanchek
Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
From: markus.kuegler@stud.uni-hannover.de (Markus Kuegler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,bionet.software,comp.software.international
Subject: Q: to print PDF-Files
Date: 4 Apr 1996 19:32:51 GMT
Organization: stud.uni-hannover.de
Message-ID: <4k1853$q9q@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi,
I'm looking for a software program for printing (!) PDF-Files (ADOBE Acrobat
Reader) when printing the text is not allowed?
Can anyone help me?
Thanks, Markus
e-mail: markus.kuegler@stud.uni-hannover.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: bennett@ee.ucla.edu (Corey Bennett)
Subject: Re: OminiWeb!!! Where????
Sender: news@seas.ucla.edu (News Daemon)
Message-ID: <DpCtnp.8qv@seas.ucla.edu>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 20:16:34 GMT
References: <ver65osc-0304961532030001@physlab4.sjsu.edu>
Organization: UCLA Electrical Engineering
ver65osc@email.sjsu.edu (me) wrote:
>Where can I download OminiWeb for a Black 040?
>
>Help greatly appreciated.
>
>
http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/2.0/
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/OmniWeb-2.0.1-N.tar.gz
enough said...
From: kris@xmission.com (Kristopher Magnusson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Clock synchronization (automatically?)
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 4 Apr 1996 20:18:38 GMT
Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <4k1aqu$mps@news.xmission.com>
References: <4ip9pu$mu8@netnews.hinet.net> <4j6ssg$8rj@zeus.intellinet.com> <4jp84h$rrs@usc.edu> <4jtgjg$nqa@hkt001.hkt.net>
Edwin TAM (edwintam@webhk.com) wrote:
: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote:
: >Re my previous post for detailed information.
: >
: >
: >Okay, now I've read the relevant (I think) NextAdmin on-line stuff, so I
: >guess I can make a stab at it, but I'd still like to know first if it's okay
: >to activate ntpd with a dial-in ppp connection and will that have the
: desired
: >effect as per subpoint (b) in the man page?
:
: I tried on a machine which is PPP'ed to the Net without success, the ntpd
: just quit immediately. Another machine which is LAN'ed to the Net works fine.
:
: NeXT-PPP 2.2 if it does matter.
:
: Edwin
I have entered a value for an ntp server in NetInfo "/locations/ntp" and
time synchronization works just fine with a PPP connection. Of course it
doesn't synchronize when the PPP link is down. =)
--
Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please)
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From: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OminiWeb!!! Where????
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 1996 12:26:20 -0800
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd.
Message-ID: <3164306C.25CE@mpr.ca>
References: <ver65osc-0304961532030001@physlab4.sjsu.edu>
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me wrote:
>
> Where can I download OminiWeb for a Black 040?
>
> Help greatly appreciated.
>
> Me:)
You can find this in the next archives e.g.
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info/
I don't know if the finale release of it is there.
Your best bet would be to go to there web site and download it from
there.
http://www.omnigroup.com
--
Scott Mewett
MPR Teltech Ltd. Burnaby, B.C.
mewett@mpr.ca ASCII Only
mewett@van.ark.com NeXTMail OK
From: tm8025a@american.edu (Torrey McMahon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,commp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Help! - Network problem with my Next
Date: 4 Apr 1996 21:50:02 GMT
Organization: American University, Washington DC
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4k1g6a$aie@paladin.american.edu>
References: <4jug1m$apt@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In <4jug1m$apt@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Hong Geun Im wrote:
>
> when I reboot my Next, I noticed a message showing something like
> "can't find my address".
>
Well first, are you running stand alone or in a network setup? If you're
running stand alone then make sure /etc/hostconfig is set up correctly
If you're in a network then check with your sysadmin and see if your IP
number has been removed, or changed, in netinfo or YP.
--
Torrey McMahon
American University School of Communication
System Administrator, WebMaster, and Security Consultant
NeXT, MIME, SUN and ASCII
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem: SPARC/Solaris mounting of NeXT disks
Date: 4 Apr 1996 23:41:41 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-09.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4k1mnl$jen@usc.edu>
References: <3163FF04.167E@ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
In <3163FF04.167E@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> Stephen Travis Pope wrote:
>
> /net/fox on foxtrot:/ bg/read/write/soft/intr/rsize=2048/wsize=2048/remote
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is the problem. I believe NS uses 1024, so the Sun and NS have a
disparity that people fix by telling the Sun to use 1024.
I believe this is a FAQ and that's why I'd know it at all.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
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From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Quantrix
Date: 4 Apr 1996 08:53:31 GMT
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <4k02mb$90@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com>
References: <RDL.96Apr2223025@world.std.com> <4juevb$qc6@nntp1.best.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In <4juevb$qc6@nntp1.best.com> Ray Ryan wrote:
> The Quantrix team scuffs its collective toe, blushes, and says, "Gee,
> thanks!"
Quantrix is a fine piece of software, indeed.
The only thing I miss badly is a way to copy an entire table
with all data and formatting options within the table browser.
Will this feature arrive in 2.3?
_______________________________________________________________
Navigator Markus Wenzel
IT Consulting & System administration
Silberberger Weg 11 Fon: +49 * (0)7159 * 92 79 56
D-71272 Renningen, Germany Fax: +49 * (0)7159 * 92 79 57
_______________________________________________________________
From: osg@onramp.net (Glenda )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT AND WWW
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 1996 00:01:02 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4k1gpb$qv1@news.onramp.net>
NeXT AND WWW DEVELOPER
Object Systems Group is a OO technology-based consultancy that
provides assistance to Global 1000 corporations. These clients have
already made the commitment to move to objects. That means that we can
offer you the opportunity to build robust infrastructures, develop
good designs, and direct state of the art implementations for large
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Because OSG has a proven successful OO process and a reputation for
excellence, we can keep you progressing in OO technology while you
are making contractors wages.
We currently have an assignment in the NE for the following area:
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Minimum 2+ years total experience with extensive Objective C on a NeXT
platform. Individual will be working in a team of developers for a
application which is NeXT based, and will be responsible for the
development of the WWW portion of that project.
If you or someone you know might be interested in cutting edge work,
please contact me either by e-mail or sending your resume to
osg@onramp.net, US mail your resume to Object Systems Group, Inc.,
Attn: Glenda Maddox, 3048 Infomart, 1950 Stemmons Freeway, Dallas, Tx.
75207, or fax it to 214-742-5847.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: martin@jeramy.westfalen.de
Subject: this "interleaced-mode" is nearly killing me !!!
Message-ID: <DpCLI9.1Kp@jeramy.westfalen.de>
Sender: news@jeramy.westfalen.de (news)
Organization: JerySoft
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 17:20:32 GMT
Hi you out there,
well I have a Hercules Dynamite VL Pro VGA-grphic card
installed in my PC ...
I am using NSi 3.3 and the only driver Ive got by now
is that on, that gives you exactly 1024 x 768 RGB by
45 Hz INTERLEACED !!!
I think its revision b by a modified NS 3.2 driver
(from Ricardo J .Parada and John Ruggentaler)
So, pleas, tell me that there is a newer on without
this interleace in a high color standard !!!
Where can I get it from ?!?
--
... M.Roggon (martin@jeramy.westfalen.de)
--
Share and enjoy !
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OminiWeb!!! Where????
Date: 4 Apr 1996 21:55:35 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <4k1ggn$fm7@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <ver65osc-0304961532030001@physlab4.sjsu.edu> <3164306C.25CE@mpr.ca>
In-Reply-To: <3164306C.25CE@mpr.ca>
On 04/04/96, Scott Mewett wrote:
>me wrote:
>>
>> Where can I download OminiWeb for a Black 040?
>>
>> Help greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Me:)
>
>You can find this in the next archives e.g.
>ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info/
>I don't know if the finale release of it is there.
>
>Your best bet would be to go to there web site and download it from
>there.
>
>http://www.omnigroup.com
>
I replied privately to the original poster, but in my quest
for being helpful, I forgot that its not in the
binaries/wide-area-info directory, but likely still stuck in
submissions.
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
http://www.stepwise.com/ (Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server)
From: geoff@math.ucla.edu (Geoffrey Mess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Alexandra: can't quit
Date: 6 Apr 1996 01:08:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <4k4g5k$1478@saba.info.ucla.edu>
I'd like to send a bug report to bugs@gurke.ping.de. However:
421 Host gurke.ping.de not found for mailer tcp.
550 <bugs@gurke.ping.de>... Host unknown
Sometimes I can't kill Alexandra either by the Quit button or by
kill at the command line. In one case I couldn't power off using the power key,
apparently because Alexandra was still running despite a kill command.
This problem just started today.
--
Geoffrey Mess
Department of Mathematics, UCLA. geoff@math.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: 8 vs 7 bit uucps
Message-ID: <1996Apr5.105518.2796@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4juhfm$b7h@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 10:55:18 GMT
In article <4juhfm$b7h@nntp.Stanford.EDU> daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David
Jaffe) writes:
>
>
> I've been successfully using uucp, logging into a server that
> converts 7 bit to 8 bit.
>
> However, such servers are being phased out and the new ones just
> expect 8 bit.
>
> I am unable to successfully use uucico with these new 8 bit
> servers.
>
> I suspect the problem is that NeXT's uucico uses 7 bit protocol.
>
> Is there a version that uses 8 bit? A public domain version?
> Anything?
>
> I'm running NS 3.2 on black 040 hardware.
>
NEXTSTEP incorporates the age old HDB-UUCP. It is completely outdated, to
put it mildly!
The Public Domain carries a ready to install Taylor-UUCP. Check Peak or
Peanuts for a most recent copy.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Subject: Re: Tiffs from NeXT to DOS?
Message-ID: <DpGv4x.MCo@news2.new-york.net>
References: <4jrsf4$2d4@news.myriad.net> <4k0ns5$r2r@cetus.ali.bc.ca>
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 00:38:57 GMT
allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) wrote:
> The problem is that the TIFF standard is very flexible, but that
> a lot of programs (esp. under DOS) which purport to read TIFFs
> actually only read a small proportion of the possible kinds of
> TIFFs.
>
> Your best bet to get something that DOS can read is:
>
> a) Turn off alpha channel and save as either an 8-bit gray
> or 24-bit color TIFF with no compression.
>
> b) Get GifOMatic.app and write the images as GIFs.
How well-supported is the PNG format these days? Is that a
viable cross-platform format yet? If it was me, I would
rather not use GIF. Of course, if it was me I'd be going to
a Mac with Photoshop, so it's not really a problem for me.. :-)
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Bill Peterson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Had GateKeeper working but now it wont
Date: 7 Apr 1996 03:31:42 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <4k7cuu$o6i@news.tiac.net>
I had GateKeeper working but now it wont...
The only think I did was do teh command that changed the permissions that let
now root lauch it.
any thoughts
when I press link it starts but will not dial modem.
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniCD (Was Re: CDPlayer just gives "could not open the CD-ROM drive")
Date: 7 Apr 1996 05:07:50 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org>
References: <4jrof5$2hn@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4jttdk$5hr@crcnis3.unl.edu>
OmniCD has just entered public beta testing, for those who wish to try
another alternate CD player program. It should be emphasized that this
is a very early beta, so if you're only looking for a polished app, you
should probably pass this by for now, and as this is a low priority
project, don't expect a final version in the immediate future.
For more info and to download: http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniCD/
OmniCD is lacking some features that CDPlayer has, but it has a few
advantages of it's own. The feature expected to be the most popular is
the ability to control playback from the application icon (sortof),
thus greatly reducing the screen space required, and keeping the
controls handy. Also of some interest is that this app allows recording
audio from many Toshiba drives (on all architectures), from many
Sony/Matshita/Apple drives on Motorola (not on Intel or HP, possibly on
SPARC, but that's untested), and possibly from some NEC drives.
(Special thanks to several people, especially Juergen Sell, Carl Edman,
and Garance A Drosehn.)
--
andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
I probably don't speak for Omni, but I'm going to keep you guessing.
From: me@nextww.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de (Werner Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem: SPARC/Solaris mounting of NeXT disks
Date: 7 Apr 1996 09:03:07 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <4k80cb$cs@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <3163FF04.167E@ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
In article <3163FF04.167E@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> Stephen Travis Pope
<stp@ccmrc.ucsb.edu> writes:
> Hello,
>
> We have a mixed workstation environment, with Next HW, SunOS machines,
and
> SPARCs running Solaris. Our main home directory disk is on a NeXT cube,
and
> the Sun OS 4.1 machine mounts it AOK, but the new Solaris machine
doesn't.
> It mounts just fine, but whenever you try to access the mounted disk, it
times
> out before NFS replies. This looks like the following (where volta is a
Sun
> Ultra running Solaris 2.5, and foxtrot is a NeXT cube.)
use rsize option to set read buffer size to something like 1024
e.g.
mount -o rsize=1024 cube:/home /home
Sol2.x uses a buffer size of 8192 (see man page for mount_nfs )
--
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Werner Wetzel Fax: +49 6221 549 333
Theoretische Physik Tel: +49 6221 549 419
Universitaet Heidelberg email:
me@nextww.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de
Philosophenweg 16
D-69120 HEIDELBERG
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: gtf@math.rochester.edu (Geoffrey T. Falk)
Subject: Re: OmniCD (Was Re: CDPlayer just gives "could not open the CD-ROM drive")
Message-ID: <1996Apr7.133352.17553@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: Circumcision Information and Resource Pages
References: <4jrof5$2hn@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4jttdk$5hr@crcnis3.unl.edu> <4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org>
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 96 13:33:52 GMT
In article <4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org>,
<andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com> wrote:
>
>OmniCD has just entered public beta testing, for those who wish to try
>another alternate CD player program. It should be emphasized that this
>is a very early beta, so if you're only looking for a polished app, you
>should probably pass this by for now, and as this is a low priority
>project, don't expect a final version in the immediate future.
This is off-topic, but...
Somebody should implement filesystem support for music CDs on NeXTstep.
When you pop the CD into the drive, it would come up as a directory
filled with .snd files called 'track01', 'track02', etc.
Why hasn't anybody done this? Would it upset the music publishers
too much? :-)
Have a great spring weekend, everybody.
g.
--
I conceal nothing. It is not enough not to lie. One should strive
not to lie in a negative sense by remaining silent. ---Leo Tolstoy
Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf@math.rochester.edu> http://theorem.math.rochester.edu/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Message-ID: <66Qsyse--JB@delphin.tbx.berlinet.de>
From: M.GUENTSCHE@TBX.BerliNet.DE (mark-oliver guentsche)
Subject: How to print ...
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 14:02:00 +0200
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
how can I print to a Next 400 dpi laser printer using a mixed network with
PCs running windows 95? I want to print a word document changing the *doc-
format into (which) postscript?!...
if i save the file to "eps" a postscript error occures when trying to load
it on preview.app.
any idea?
mark
From: chris@NNTPSERVER (Christopher Beauvois)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Real-Time NeXTSTEP ?
Date: 8 Apr 1996 03:11:24 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Message-ID: <4ka04s$eo6@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
From: chris@NNTPSERVER (Christopher Beauvois)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTSTEP & SCSI bus
Date: 8 Apr 1996 03:12:41 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN
Message-ID: <4ka079$eo6@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 8 Apr 1996 04:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4ka3se$mta@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
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================
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- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
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- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
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=============
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NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: News from OmniWeb 2.0.1?
Date: 8 Apr 1996 05:17:56 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Message-ID: <4ka7i4$3u2@news.tamu.edu>
References: <4j998d$bq3@news.acns.nwu.edu> <4jborb$atl@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
Joshua W. Burton (jburton@nwu.edu) wrote:
> One puzzle: how do I tell it about my news server, so that URLs
> like <news:alt.foo.baz> go to the right place?
Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl> wrote:
>You can't. OmniWeb 2.0 no longer supports news. I don't know whether there
>is an interface with newsreaders, like with Mail.app.
The unofficial word from LightHouse is that they will be releasing
a .bundle for news support "soon".
Cheers,
--
Colin Allen
colin.allen@tamu.edu
-Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!-
From: paulshin@mail.utexas.edu (Paul Shin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.pagemaker,alt.aldus.pagemaker,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.software,misc.forsale.computers.other.software,alt.aldus.pagemaker,comp.graphics.apps.pagemaker,austin.forsale,utexas.forsale,tx.forsale,alt.forsale,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,biz.marketplace.computers.other,biz.marketplace.computers.pc-clone,alt.corel.graphics,alt.soft-sys.corel.draw,claritw.computers.pc.software,comp.publish.cdrom.software,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: For Sale: Corel Draw 6.0 Full Version
Date: 8 Apr 1996 08:11:56 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: austin
Message-ID: <4kahoc$hme@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
Sorry to disturb those of you who are not interested in seeing this kind of postings.
Brand new w/ reg. card, manuals, CD's
Full retail version
$389
Plus shipping & COD if not local
Paul (512)602-6437 daytime
(512)443-5303 evening
From: chanhong@igate.iohk.com (Chan Hong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Netinfo Error help!
Date: 8 Apr 1996 13:11:01 GMT
Organization: Internet OnLine HK Ltd.
Message-ID: <4kb395$934@ibridge.iohk.com>
Hello,
I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.3 user on a standalone intel machine. Right now I have
some problem after launching the PPP connection to my ISP.
The problem is: After making a PPP connection to my ISP by 'pppd', the
Netinfo Manager and OmniWeb cannot launch. Consol prompted me 'Time out
Netinfo connect to local domain, XXXX sleep.' - some sort like this. But
I can launch them without any problem before the PPP session.
Right now I'm using loopback IP address (127.0.0.1).
Can anyone help me to get it work?
B.R.
CHan Hong
From: stimpy@sojourn1.sojourn.com (gcl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How to Upgrade NeXT Cube to 3.x??
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 8 Apr 1996 13:24:42 GMT
Organization: Sojourn Systems Ltd.
Message-ID: <4kb42q$9gp@tkhut.sojourn.com>
References: <4jruhn$5kg@news.cc.ucf.edu> <31637315.5E93@tricon.net>
Gerard T. Curd (gcurd@tricon.net) wrote:
: Thomas Clarke wrote:
: >
: > I use an original 68040 Nextcube still running NeXTstep 2.0 for
: > mail and other net chores. Could see no reason to upgrade.
: > Lately, I've been wanting to put a web browser on it and I have
: > discovered that all the browsers need 3.x.
: >
: > Can anyone point me to an ftp site or other source for a 3.x
: > upgrade for a 68040 cube? We used to have to go through
: > Florida State in Tallahassee for stuff, but they long ago
: > lost interest.
: >
: > Thanks.
: >
: > Tom Clarke
: > Hoarder of NeXT cube spare parts.
: Tom,
: Lighthouse in California is selling 3.2 User for $25 and developer for $100. According to
: lighthouse these are upgradable to 3.3 when you need to. Hope it helps.
: GTC
--
________________________________________________________________
gcl@sojourn.com NeXTmail/LipService is prefered
Founder: The NeXTstep for Intel Processors HomeBrew Mailing List
Owner: Network with a NeXT '040 Cube #4173 running NeXTstep v3.3
and a Intel i486dx2-66 running NeXTstep for Intel v3.3
_________________________________________________________________
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tiffs from NeXT to DOS?
Date: 8 Apr 1996 15:13:12 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University
Message-ID: <4kbae8$8gu@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <4jrsf4$2d4@news.myriad.net> <4k0ns5$r2r@cetus.ali.bc.ca> <DpGv4x.MCo@news2.new-york.net>
Garance A Drosehn (gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu) wrote:
: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) wrote:
: > The problem is that the TIFF standard is very flexible, but that
: > a lot of programs (esp. under DOS) which purport to read TIFFs
: > actually only read a small proportion of the possible kinds of
: > TIFFs.
: How well-supported is the PNG format these days? Is that a
: viable cross-platform format yet? If it was me, I would
: rather not use GIF. Of course, if it was me I'd be going to
: a Mac with Photoshop, so it's not really a problem for me.. :-)
I wrote for NeXTstep the PNG viewer-program PingPong, which also
converts to TIFF. Then the pnmtopng/pngtopnm software was developed
by Alex Lehmann and me both on NeXT systems (correct Alex ?). So
it will work on NS :-).
You can find all this at many places, but at least at the PNG ftp
site (plus many other PNG software and specs):
ftp://swrinde.nde.swri.edu/pub/png/....
Willem van Schaik
gwillem@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: OmniCD (Was Re: CDPlayer just gives "could not open the CD-ROM drive")
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DpJvov.Hx9@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 15:43:43 GMT
References: <4jrof5$2hn@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4jttdk$5hr@crcnis3.unl.edu> <4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org>,
<andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com> wrote:
>
>OmniCD has just entered public beta testing, for those who wish to try
>another alternate CD player program. It should be emphasized that this
>is a very early beta, so if you're only looking for a polished app, you
>should probably pass this by for now, and as this is a low priority
>project, don't expect a final version in the immediate future.
>
Nice app. However, what I want to know is, will the finished version look as
slick as CDPlayer? Hmmmmm....maybe some trips to Pixelsight and some IB
hacking would make good thesis procrastination... :-)
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: john.bartholdi@isye.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: how to copy addresses?
Date: 9 Apr 1996 12:58:52 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <4kdmuc$h37@mordred.gatech.edu>
can anyone tell me how to get an ascii dump of the addresses under the
mail app ("private users")? i cannot find an address file containing
these...
thanks,
john
--------------------------------------------
John J. Bartholdi, III
School of Industrial & Systems Engineering
Georgia Institute of Technology
Atlanta, Georgia 30332-0205
From: knguyen@callisto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CD-R apps
Date: 9 Apr 1996 13:32:55 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kdou7$bbn@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Hi all,
Does anyone know if there is an NextStep app for CD-R?
Thanks,
Khanh
-- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mario@galileo.uwaterloo.ca (Mario Stargard)
Subject: Re: A True Whodunit for NeXTMail
Message-ID: <DpLM2H.39@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
References: <4kcqn8$ni6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 14:11:05 GMT
In article <4kcqn8$ni6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu
(Lones A Smith) writes:
> Hi Y'all,
>
> Observe the paragraph below, and focus on the > sign on line 2:
>
> We now determine when the mean duration time of temporary herds is
finite.
> >From claims 1 and 2, this occurs when \sum n e_n <\infty with bounded
beliefs,
> and when \sum E_n <\infty with unbounded beliefs, for a herd in state L
on a_M.
> (This turns out to be notationally easiest.)
>
> I do not want that > sign, but it has a life of its own.
> This is part of an email I am graduallly editing each day and then
> forwarding to myself.
>
> Remember the movie "Groundhog Day", and how Bill Murray tried 15 ways of
> killing himself, to no effect? Well, I have tried everything possible to
> eliminate this > sign, but no luck. Each time I forward the email
> back to me, bingo, there it is again.
>
> What is going on here?
>
> It does not appear as a strange character in emacs, in case that
matters.
>
> Lones
>
> --
> .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-.
> / L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \
> / `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `
> Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
> (617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax)
> lones@lones.mit.edu
Send yourself some email then look through your mail spool file in
/usr/spool/mail. Note that each message is separated by a blank line and
begins with
From
I recon that if your message has
From
in it then the only way for sendmail to know that it's not the beginning
of a new message is to mark it up. Hence the translation of
From
to
>From
What are you doing starting a line with From anyways? ;-)
Cheers,
Mario
--
Mario Stargard | http://www.optometry.uwaterloo.ca/~mario
Optometry Computing | NeXTMail Welcome, MIME Tolerated
"Bill Gates says no matter how much more power we can supply,
he'll develop some really exciting software that will bring
the machine to its knees." Intel VP David House, Oct 16/89
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CD-R apps
Date: 9 Apr 1996 14:56:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kdtr1$hge@news.service.uci.edu>
References: <4kdou7$bbn@news.tuwien.ac.at>
>
>
> In article <4kdou7$bbn@news.tuwien.ac.at>
> knguyen@callisto.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) writes:
> Does anyone know if there is an NextStep app for CD-R?
Yes, by GS corp: http://www.gscorp.com
but very expensive.
--
Feng Liu, Assistant Professor
Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717-3975
phone: 714-824-3105, or 714-824-5406(MAE Department)
Fax: 714-824-3105, or 714-824-8585(MAE Department)
From: patrick@opensource.com (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Screen Manager
Date: 9 Apr 1996 15:16:10 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kduvq$agq@trane.opensource.com>
References: <4kd8f4$4iu@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <4kd8f4$4iu@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
pgeiss@cezanne.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Peter Geissler) writes:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> i am looking for a virtual screen manager running under
> NeXTStep 3.3 on Intel PC's and for a tool for changing
> screen resolution and/or color depth without rebooting.
> Do such nice things exists out there on the Net ????
>
> Thanx in advance 4 any help
There is no way that I am aware of to change color depths and resolution
without rebooting under NEXTSTEP.
There is however, the VirtSpace virtual screen manager for NEXTSTEP
systems.
VirtSpace is a "virtual window manager" that allows the user to have a
workspace several times the size of the available screen space. VirtSpace
is a must for anyone running NEXTSTEP on a portable or a low-resolution
15" monitor.
Runs on all architectures (68K, Intel, HP-PA, SPARC).
More information at:
http://www.opensource.com/Software/Utilities/VirtSpace.html
Cordially
--
Patrick Giagnocavo, Account Executive, email:patrick@opensource.com
OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012 Denver, CO 80203
Check us out on the WWW at http://www.opensource.com
(303).861.4411 Fax: (303).861.2393 1-800-TRY-OPEN (879-6736)
From: Djp@axone.u-strasbg.fr (Jean-Pierre NOVAK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any JavaBrowser for NextSTEP ?
Date: 9 Apr 1996 15:17:46 GMT
Organization: CRC - Universite Louis Pasteur - Strasbourg France
Message-ID: <4kdv2q$es0@news.u-strasbg.fr>
Hello dear NeXTSTEP Users,
The subject says all :-) : I'm looking for a Java Browser under NS ?
Is there any Application that can interpret Java applets under NS ?
bye,
Thanks for any answers.
_______________________________________________________________________
Jean-Pierre NOVAK | novak@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr
Doctorant en Informatique | http://dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr/~novak
_______________________________________________________________________
From: alanf@izzy.net (Alan M. Frabutt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anybody remember RBrowser?
Date: 9 Apr 1996 16:35:24 GMT
Organization: Comshare Inc.
Message-ID: <4ke3kc$d0n@inet-prime.comshare.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960326105427.8773G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <Dp01uK.tt@euler.hnv.icem.de>
<Pine.NXT.3.92.960330112814.21496D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4jk9un$7rl@usc.edu>
I use RBrowser daily, and love it. I connect to a half dozen or so UNIX
machines of virtually every brand regularly. It gets a high recommendation
from me; hopefully it won't be too pricey when the "production" release hits.
I suppose they could dress up the icons a bit... how about some created with
Stones 3DReality???
Something occurred recently that has me a bit puzzled, tho... When I use
RBrowser to try to connect to a Sparc IPC running SUNOS 4.x, I get "REXEC
FAILED: read Error 0". On the target machine, there's a core dump of
"in.rexecd" with the date/time of my access attempt. My foggy brain tells me
I used to access this machine.
Any Ideas???
-Alan
Alan Frabutt
mailto:alanf@izzy.net
In <4jk9un$7rl@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> In <Pine.NXT.3.92.960330112814.21496D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
> "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
> [snip other stuff]
> > Well, I use 'zsh' but someone associated with the project said that 'zsh'
> > should work fine with RBrowser.... of course, that doesn't mean that he
> > was right....
>
> I use zsh and RBrowser (at the same time or whatever you want to call it),
> and have had no problems yet. If course I could be wrong and just haven't
> noticed all the problems, just thinking they were normal.....8-)
>
>
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC and Microsoft Office
Date: 9 Apr 1996 18:06:02 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <4ke8ua$1bht@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
Hello,
I've been a long time NeXTphile; however, reality is starting to intrude into
my life and it appears that I'm going to be forced to use Microsoft Office
products for project compatibility. :( i.e., Word, PowerPoint, and Project)
Thus, the question is whether I can run MS Office under SoftPC on the home NS/I
machine or if I need to buy another disk and start doing the dual-boot routine.
Unfortunately, given that I'm two versions behind, I can't even inflict (my
preferred) FrameMaker on the team as a standard.
My original concept was to switch to Solaris/OPENSTEP when that was released so
I could use MATLAB and FrameMaker and still keep using all of my favorite
NEXTSTEP apps. However, now it appears that Sun is backing away from that
concept so, perhaps, I should just acknowledge that the bad guys have won and
switch to Windows? :-(
Pardon my depression -- is there a reasonably low-pain mechanism to satisfy the
global compatibility needs?
Thanks,
Mark.
--
Dr. Mark Kotanchek
Signal Processing Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Message-ID: <9604091849.AA07761@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
From: Aleksey Sudakov <zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 22:49:38 +0400
Subject: Re: Any JavaBrowser for NextSTEP ?
Hi,
In article <4kdv2q$es0@news.u-strasbg.fr>, Jean-Pierre NOVAK wrote:
> Hello dear NeXTSTEP Users,
>
> The subject says all :-) : I'm looking for a Java Browser
under NS ?
> Is there any Application that can interpret Java applets under NS ?
So far there is no Java Browser under NeXTSTEP.
NetSurfer or Omni guys, will there be one soon, or what? How long
we have to use Netscape on Winduse?
Regards,
Aleksey
_________________________________________________________________
Aleksey Sudakov
1A-1 Kerchenskaya Street
Moscow 113303,Russia.
________________________________________________________________
Home: +7(095)121-6100 + 3-45, +7(095)121-0561 + 3-45
EMail: zander@cnext.crec.mipt.ru (NeXTMail & MIME are OK)
WWW: http://www.crec.mipt.ru/~zander/
From: patrick@opensource.com (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC and Microsoft Office
Date: 9 Apr 1996 19:51:28 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kef40$ci8@trane.opensource.com>
References: <4ke8ua$1bht@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
In article <4ke8ua$1bht@hearst.cac.psu.edu> mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark
E. Kotanchek) writes:
> Hello,
>
> I've been a long time NeXTphile; however, reality is starting to intrude
> into
> my life and it appears that I'm going to be forced to use Microsoft
> Office
> products for project compatibility. :( i.e., Word, PowerPoint, and
> Project)
>
> Thus, the question is whether I can run MS Office under SoftPC on the
> home NS/I
> Pardon my depression -- is there a reasonably low-pain mechanism to
> satisfy the
> global compatibility needs?
>
The SoftPC v4.1 software runs MS-Office 4.3 Standard, from what I
understand.
SoftPC also runs Improv 2.1 for Windows, which of course was originally
developed for the NeXT...
more information:
http://www.opensource.com/Software/Emulation/SoftPC.html
Cordially
--
Patrick Giagnocavo, Account Executive, email:patrick@opensource.com
OpenSource, Inc. 1776 Lincoln Street, Suite 1012 Denver, CO 80203
Check us out on the WWW at http://www.opensource.com
(303).861.4411 Fax: (303).861.2393 1-800-TRY-OPEN (879-6736)
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP: FTP front end software needed
Date: 9 Apr 1996 21:33:42 GMT
Organization: Seicom GmbH, Reutlingen, Germany, Europe
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kel3m$mj9@gate.seicom.net>
References: <4kdctn$s5@netnews.hinet.net>
In <4kdctn$s5@netnews.hinet.net> james@young-ray.hinet.net wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I am searching for a good FTP front end program.
> I have used Gator but it is not as nice as Yftp. I am currently using Yftp
> v0.447. It works great except it sometimes quit mysteriously. Is there a
> later and improved version.
Yftps current version is 0.564 (7.12.1995) AFAIK. Get it from the peanuts ftp
site.
--
Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page
http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank
NeXTSTEP & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C ga ga"
From: John Rudd <kzin@isc.sjsu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniCD (Was Re: CDPlayer just gives "could not open the CD-ROM drive")
Date: 9 Apr 1996 22:04:15 GMT
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <4kemsv$mdi@nuke.csu.net>
References: <4jrof5$2hn@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4jttdk$5hr@crcnis3.unl.edu>
<4kcccb$omv@nuke.csu.net> <4kclq4$r7l@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
In <4kclq4$r7l@msunews.cl.msu.edu> RHS Linux User wrote:
> In article <4kcccb$omv@nuke.csu.net>, John Rudd wrote:
> >
> >I agree that this would be a cool/appropriate way to handle
> >CD's on probably _any_ platform. Wonder how hard it would be
> >to do this?
> >
> >
>
> Why? What does this give you? All it would do is stop it from barfing
> when putting it in there, right?
>
1) an easier interface for handling audio CD's.. the file system
abstracts the details of the medium, and you can build CD Player
apps that use this abstraction.. instead of having to learn low level
details of the hardware and protocols (ie. "good Abstract Data Type
programming"). In fact, you don't really even need a CD player
app for this.. you can just cat the file to /dev/audio. This makes a
very nice portable and abstract model. It also means you can use
a cron job to play a sound at a particular time, or if you're _want_ to,
you can manage your audio playing with a shell script that does
exactly the play order you want..
2) no more need for fancy "record audio off of this CD" type apps,
which aren't always flexible or really that useful.. or that come with
a shareware fee, or whatever. You just cp the file from the
/audiocd/track01.snd file to whatever file you want it at. No hoops,
proprietary apps, nothing. Just cp.
In other words, you get a truely flexible model for handling audio
cd's as files (the way all good unixes treat everything).
--
John "Kzin" Rudd kzin@isc.sjsu.edu http://icb.sjsu.edu/~kzin
=========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============
When I hear people sigh 'life is hard', i am always tempted to ask,
'compared to what?'" -- sydney j harris
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC and Microsoft Office
Date: 9 Apr 1996 22:44:00 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4kep7g$cke@news4.digex.net>
References: <4ke8ua$1bht@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) wrote:
> Thus, the question is whether I can run MS Office under SoftPC on the
home NS/I machine or if I need to buy another disk and start doing the
dual-boot routine. Unfortunately, given that I'm two versions behind, I
can't even inflict (my preferred) FrameMaker on the team as a standard.
Works just fine.
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC and Microsoft Office or Executor?!
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 16:53:41 -0500
Organization: Illinois State University
Message-ID: <316ADC65.2D27@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <4ke8ua$1bht@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Mark E. Kotanchek wrote:
> I've been a long time NeXTphile; however, reality is starting to intrude into
> my life and it appears that I'm going to be forced to use Microsoft Office
> products for project compatibility. :( i.e., Word, PowerPoint, and Project)
>
> Thus, the question is whether I can run MS Office under SoftPC on the home NS/I
> machine or if I need to buy another disk and start doing the dual-boot routine.
You could always run Office on Executor the MAC OS emulator from:
http://www.ardi.com
however the product life is uncertain at the moment.
Eric Dubiel
From: gshaw@zeta.org.au (Greg Shaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A True Whodunit for NeXTMail
Date: 9 Apr 1996 23:02:59 GMT
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Internet Sydney, +61-2-837-1183 V.32bis
Message-ID: <4keqb3$eb5@gidora.kralizec.net.au>
References: <4kcqn8$ni6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <4kcqn8$ni6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu
(Lones A Smith) writes:
> Hi Y'all,
>
> Observe the paragraph below, and focus on the > sign on line 2:
>
> We now determine when the mean duration time of temporary herds is
finite.
> >From claims 1 and 2, this occurs when \sum n e_n <\infty with bounded
beliefs,
> and when \sum E_n <\infty with unbounded beliefs, for a herd in state L
on a_M.
> (This turns out to be notationally easiest.)
>
> I do not want that > sign, but it has a life of its own.
> This is part of an email I am graduallly editing each day and then
> forwarding to myself.
>
> What is going on here?
The problem is that the word 'From' can be confused as an address line if
left unchanged. Therefore email inserts the > to stop itself and sendmail
getting confused. Put the From in any position othet than the first and
it will probably be fine.
Hope this helps,
Greg Shaw.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gdkuch@barrow.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: A True Whodunit for NeXTMail
Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner)
Message-ID: <DpME17.4v3@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 00:15:07 GMT
References: <4kcqn8$ni6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <4kd4kd$450@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4kd4kd$450@agate.berkeley.edu>,
Paul Robert Brown <pbrown@palms.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>In article <4kcqn8$ni6@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>,
>Lones A Smith <lones@lones.mit.edu> wrote:
>>[...]
>>I do not want that > sign, but it has a life of its own.
>>This is part of an email I am graduallly editing each day and then
>>forwarding to myself.
>
>This is something that I learned about a while ago, sending an enormous
>TeX file back and forth across the Atlantic. Email adds a ">" in front of
>each "From" in order to keep track of where messages begin and end.
When sendmail sticks these into a mailed TeX file, TeX typesets them
as inverted question marks (assuming they're occurring outside of math
mode as they usually do). Some yutz once tried to convince me that this
was a "bug in TeX."
Some bug... one that can rear itself without the code needing to be running
or indeed without needing it to ever *have* run... :-)
--
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IMPORTANT NEWS: Scripts for "Godzilla Vs. Desutoroia" had envisaged
the monster's main target as the 1996 World City Expo in Tokyo
but the idea fell through when Gov. Yukio Aoshima cancelled the event.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jpmeia@netcom.com
Subject: Dual-driver for PCMCIA?
Message-ID: <nntpuserDpLq65.Mso@netcom.com>
Keywords: Driver, PCMCIA
Sender: netnews@mork.netcom.com
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:39:40 GMT
Does anyone know if NS does now or will support Dual-drivers for PCMCIA cards
(e.g., a Xircom Ethernet + modem). I haven't found any dual drivers in
NextAnswers and don't know if an existing ethernet PCMCIA card driver could
be loaded in Configure.app to the same slot as an ISA SerialPort.
Thanks, please post here or respond to:
jpmeia@netcom.com
nextmail welcome
From: james@young-ray.hinet.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP: FTP front end software needed
Date: 10 Apr 1996 05:44:04 GMT
Organization: DCI HiNet
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kfhr4$be5@netnews.hinet.net>
References: <4kdctn$s5@netnews.hinet.net> <4kel3m$mj9@gate.seicom.net>
In <4kel3m$mj9@gate.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote:
> Yftps current version is 0.564 (7.12.1995) AFAIK. Get it from the peanuts
ftp
> site.
>
> --
> Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page
> http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank
> NeXTSTEP & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C ga ga"
>
>
Hi,
Where can I find the app, Yftps? I looked the peanuts archive but not able
to locate it. If you have one, can you mail it to me? Or give me a more
precise path.
--
Thanks and Best Regards,
===========================================================================
james@young-ray.hinet.net (NeXTmail & MIME support)
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Screen Manager
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 10 Apr 1996 13:22:34 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kgcmq$2tp@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <4kd8f4$4iu@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <4kduvq$agq@trane.opensource.com>
Patrick Giagnocavo (patrick@opensource.com) wrote:
: There is no way that I am aware of to change color depths and resolution
: without rebooting under NEXTSTEP.
AFAIK, Elsa's display driver does this (or was it ATI ?)! The window
server has to be restarted, but you don't need to reboot the
system. For sure, this has to be supported by the display driver!
Gregor
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| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 54-8312 |
| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail, MIME) |
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CD-R apps
Date: 10 Apr 1996 13:58:20 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kgeps$1foa@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <4kdou7$bbn@news.tuwien.ac.at>
Khanh P. Nguyen (knguyen@callisto.nt.tuwien.ac.at) wrote:
> Hi all,
> Does anyone know if there is an NextStep app for CD-R?
> Thanks,
> Khanh
> -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting --
> M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA
> M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$S-#1<='@R-C@X7'1X-#`S,EQT
> M>#4S-S9<='@V-S(P7'1X.#`V-%QT>#DT,#A<='@Q,#<U,EQT>#$R,#DV7'1X
> M,3,T-#!<9C!<8C!<:3!<=6QN;VYE7&9S,CA<9F,P7&-F,"!(:2!A;&PL7`I$
> M;V5S(&%N>6]N92!K;F]W(&EF('1H97)E(&ES(&%N($YE>'13=&5P(&%P<"!F
> ;;W(@0T0M4C]<"E1H86YK<RQ<"DMH86YH"GT*
> `
Oh no, not again.. its been quiet for so long... >:-)
Chris
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// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
// +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: blake@widomaker.com (Blake Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: I have a HP DeskJet printer -- can I print w/ it?
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:04:01 GMT
Organization: Widomaker Public Access Internet (804)221-8070
Message-ID: <4kgf4h$otf@news2.widomaker.com>
Yes? Or need it be Postscript? Please email me.
blake@widomaker.com
From: blake@widomaker.com (Blake Patterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: I have NeXTSTEP for Intel 3.2? Too old?
Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:04:50 GMT
Organization: Widomaker Public Access Internet (804)221-8070
Message-ID: <4kgf62$otf@news2.widomaker.com>
I did not grab 3.3 while still a student. Is 3.2 worth
using today?
blake@widomaker.com (please email)
From: giddings@menominee.menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I have a HP DeskJet printer -- can I print w/ it?
Date: 10 Apr 1996 15:03:06 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison
Message-ID: <4kgija$2fm0@news.doit.wisc.edu>
References: <4kgf4h$otf@news2.widomaker.com>
In <4kgf4h$otf@news2.widomaker.com> Blake Patterson wrote:
>
> Yes? Or need it be Postscript? Please email me.
>
> blake@widomaker.com
>
>
To print to this, you need a printer driver (because it isn't postcript). To
my knowledge there are two on the market: Dots, and JetPilot. I think both
are in the $100-$250 range and support quite a variety of printers. I think
OpenSource or Stepwise has information on these both. If no luck there, let
me know and I'll try to get you more information.
--
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UW Madison Dept. of Chemistry \ set job "Consultant and Graduate Student"
Madison, Wisconsin \ set specialty "Scientific Computation"
(608) 692-2851 \ set InRealLife "Whitewater kayaker and\
giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu or\ outdoor enthusiast"
giddings@students.wisc.edu \
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From: otto@olcs.com (Otto Lind)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: how to copy addresses?
Date: 10 Apr 1996 15:28:22 GMT
Organization: Otto Lind Consulting Services
Message-ID: <4kgk2m$e8l@olcs.olcs.com>
References: <4kdmuc$h37@mordred.gatech.edu>
john.bartholdi@isye.gatech.edu wrote:
: can anyone tell me how to get an ascii dump of the addresses under the
: mail app ("private users")? i cannot find an address file containing
: these...
Look at ~/.NeXT/.mailalias
Otto
--
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skypoint!olcs!otto voice:(612)457-1080 fax:(612)457-0761
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Does TeXView Dither?
Date: 10 Apr 1996 17:02:11 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4kgpij$2ve@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
My co-author on a Mac just switched from OzTeX to CMacTeX to get dithering, and
we were trying to figure out if this facility exists in TeXView. The manual
merely defines the term, but (at least from the index) does not say if TView
has the capability.
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(617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax)
lones@lones.mit.edu
From: Haibo Chen <haiboc@bnr.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: windows 95 to NeXt
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:42:29 -0400
Organization: Hi-Wave Research (HWR)
Message-ID: <316BE4F5.15BF@bnr.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi! I would like to seek the help from all of you:
I'd like to build a LAN between WINDOWS 95 (PC) to NeXTCube
for sharing the NeXT printer. I am facing the workgroup configuration
problem in windows 95 network configuration, which workgroup
I should specify for NeXT?
Any more information and help would appreciated.
Thanks a lot.
Haibo Chen
haiboc@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Rick Wegner <rick@wsu.edu>
Subject: UDP checksums
Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News)
Message-ID: <316C03A8.180B@wsu.edu>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:53:28 GMT
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Mime-Version: 1.0
Organization: Washington State University
Seems like I am having problems with my NeXTStation tossing UDP packets
with bad checksums. Does anyone know how to disable UDP checksums on a
NeXTStation running 2.1??
TIA, rick.
From: Richard Palmer <palmer@phy.duke.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PDF viewers
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:14:51 -0400
Organization: Duke University
Message-ID: <316C08AB.41C67EA6@phy.duke.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I need a PDF viewer for a black NeXT running 3.2. I found
OmniPDF on the ftp archives, but it needs the "Foundation
library" which only seems to be available for 3.3. The
OmniPDF README mentions other PDF viewers, but doesn't name
them. Any ideas?
--
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Dept of Physics, Box 90305, Duke University, Durham NC 27708, USA
Phone: 1-919-660-2559 Fax: 1-919-660-2525
E-mail: palmer@phy.duke.edu
URL: http://www.phy.duke.edu/Faculty/Palmer/
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP: FTP front end software needed
Date: 10 Apr 1996 19:28:01 GMT
Organization: Seicom GmbH, Reutlingen, Germany, Europe
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kh241$kol@gate.seicom.net>
References: <4kdctn$s5@netnews.hinet.net> <4kel3m$mj9@gate.seicom.net>
<4kfhr4$be5@netnews.hinet.net>
In <4kfhr4$be5@netnews.hinet.net> james@young-ray.hinet.net wrote:
....
> Where can I find the app, Yftps? I looked the peanuts archive but not able
> to locate it. If you have one, can you mail it to me? Or give me a more
> precise path.
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/filetransfer/Yftp.0.564.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
-rw-rw-r-- 1 guenthem ftpadm 929267 Dec 7 16:11
Yftp.0.564.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
-rw-rw-r-- 1 guenthem ftpadm 13154 Dec 7 16:10 Yftp.0.564.README
--
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http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.NL
Subject: Re: 8 vs 7 bit uucps
Message-ID: <DpnwDw.I8K@RnA.NL>
Sender: gerben@RnA.NL (Gerben Wierda)
Organization: R&A
References: <1996Apr5.105518.2796@nidat.sub.org>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:49:08 GMT
In article <1996Apr5.105518.2796@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter
Nitezki) writes:
> NEXTSTEP incorporates the age old HDB-UUCP. It is completely outdated, to
> put it mildly!
>
> The Public Domain carries a ready to install Taylor-UUCP. Check Peak or
> Peanuts for a most recent copy.
The official distribution site is ftp.nl.net/pub/comp/next. I don't put them on
the others so they are not guarantueed to be latest versions.
--
Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242
"If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there"
Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud.
From: rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PDF viewers
Date: 10 Apr 1996 20:51:38 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <4kh70q$dua@news.iastate.edu>
References: <316C08AB.41C67EA6@phy.duke.edu>
In article <316C08AB.41C67EA6@phy.duke.edu> Richard Palmer
<palmer@phy.duke.edu> writes:
> I need a PDF viewer for a black NeXT running 3.2. I found
> OmniPDF on the ftp archives, but it needs the "Foundation
> library" which only seems to be available for 3.3. The
> OmniPDF README mentions other PDF viewers, but doesn't name
> them. Any ideas?
>
> --
> Richard G. Palmer, Professor of Physics, Comp Sci, & Psych:Exptl
> Dept of Physics, Box 90305, Duke University, Durham NC 27708, USA
> Phone: 1-919-660-2559 Fax: 1-919-660-2525
> E-mail: palmer@phy.duke.edu
> URL: http://www.phy.duke.edu/Faculty/Palmer/
OmniPDF does require the Foundation Libraries, but you can now install
them free of charge (they were previosuly only available with the purchase
of EOF). Check the Patches section of NeXTanswers for it.
--
Rod Ragner, UNIX Systems Administrator/NEXTSTEP Application Developer
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine,
Iowa State University, 2630 Vet. Med. Bldg., Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-6961 or 3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
From: jon@.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Quoted replies in NextMail
Date: 10 Apr 1996 21:27:02 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <4kh936$dje@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Quick question. I'd like for Mail to reply with the following
format:
<reply-to> wrote:
>
> text of other message
Is there any way of doing that? I can get it to do:
You wrote:
>
> text of other message
but it'd be really nice to be more specific.
Thanks - Jon
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From: peterson@media.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OneVision
Date: 10 Apr 1996 21:48:48 GMT
Organization: Mainstream Electronic Information Services
Message-ID: <4khac0$8s9@n1mep.mainstream.net>
Where can I find a demo copy of OneVision, the one I got from peanuts seems
to be damaged. peak does not seem to have one.
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NEXTSTEP Java Porting Issues-mailing list!
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:19:41 -0500
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <316C33FD.308C@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
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NEXTSTEP Java Porting Issues
Sponsor: Bill Bumgarner (bbum@friday.com)
next-java@friday.com
An open mailing list for for discussion of porting and integration esoteria that are
unique to the
NeXT platform. To subscribe, send the word "subscribe" in the BODY of a message to
next-java-request@friday.com.
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mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Technology
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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: object.station 41 + OmniCD (Was Re:OmniCD")
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:39:16 -0500
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <316C3894.5BB3@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <4jrof5$2hn@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4jttdk$5hr@crcnis3.unl.edu> <4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org>
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To: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com
andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote:
>
> OmniCD has just entered public beta testing, for those who wish to try
> another alternate CD player program. It should be emphasized that this
> is a very early beta, so if you're only looking for a polished app, you
> should probably pass this by for now, and as this is a low priority
> project, don't expect a final version in the immediate future.
My Canon object.station 41 will recognize the tracks on the disc, but won't play or record...
running NS 3.3
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quoted replies in NextMail
Date: 10 Apr 1996 23:40:48 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-j-41.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4khgu0$2ft@usc.edu>
References: <4kh936$dje@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In <4kh936$dje@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Jon Haveman wrote:
> Quick question. I'd like for Mail to reply with the following
> format:
>
> <reply-to> wrote:
> >
> > text of other message
>
> Is there any way of doing that? I can get it to do:
>
> You wrote:
> >
> > text of other message
>
> but it'd be really nice to be more specific.
Yes.
8-)
Well, to be more specific, I believe in Mail.app (w/ EnhanceMail 1.2) ->
Preferences -> Quoting -> Introduction
Then enter: "%{reply-to}" wrote:
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quoted replies in NextMail
Date: 10 Apr 1996 23:58:40 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-j-41.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4khhvg$4q7@usc.edu>
References: <4kh936$dje@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <4khgu0$2ft@usc.edu>
I actually use:
On %d%nRE: "%{subject}"%n%{from} wrote:%n
Which gives me something like:
On Wed, 14 Feb 96
RE: "Re: my doopy doo"
"Tom Tardy" <tardy@usc.edu> wrote:
Now, if only I could tell if my girlfriend was or wasn't over there when he
wrote that note!!! (And boy would I like to know that!)
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: mmccullo@usit.net (Michael McCulloch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC and Microsoft Office
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 00:36:55 GMT
Organization: United States Internet, Inc.
Message-ID: <4khk5q$j5k@news.usit.net>
References: <4ke8ua$1bht@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) wrote:
>I've been a long time NeXTphile; however, reality is starting to intrude into
>my life and it appears that I'm going to be forced to use Microsoft Office
>products for project compatibility. :( i.e., Word, PowerPoint, and Project)
>Thus, the question is whether I can run MS Office under SoftPC on the home NS/I
>machine or if I need to buy another disk and start doing the dual-boot routine.
>Unfortunately, given that I'm two versions behind, I can't even inflict (my
>preferred) FrameMaker on the team as a standard.
FrameMaker 4.0 under Windows 3.11 or Win95 works fine. Other than the
lack of EPS display and those darn 8.3 filenames, the Windows product
is identical in features and stability to the NS version. I have used
it for lengthy user manuals consisting of lots of PCB diagrams over
several chapters. I use Visio Technical and AutoCAD and import via WMF
for diagrams.
FrameMaker 5.0's importing functions for graphics no longer cache the
display, therefore any scrolling of a complex graphic is *painfully*
slow. Otherwise it seems fine as well.
Frame will even upgrade you for a reasonable price from the NS
version.
>My original concept was to switch to Solaris/OPENSTEP when that was released so
>I could use MATLAB and FrameMaker and still keep using all of my favorite
>NEXTSTEP apps. However, now it appears that Sun is backing away from that
>concept so, perhaps, I should just acknowledge that the bad guys have won and
>switch to Windows? :-(
Don't be so depressed. As a long time NS user and even user group
prez, Win95 isn't so bad (don't even bother with Win3.1). In fact,
*many* new tools that were inaccessible to you before will be
available at a fraction of the cost of comparable NS apps, if any
exist. The networking is also reasonably robust as well. I like my new
freedom personally. I also now have an investment portfolio instead of
the latest release from NeXT.
Oh, and I recommend a second disk for maximum safety. Win95 will
happily destroy your NS installation when you least expect it. I use
an external SCSI for NS which can be powered off when not in use.
---
Michael McCulloch
mmccullo@usit.net
Oak Ridge, TN
From: jadams@jadams.cac.stratus.com (John Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTStep and printing to AppleTalk printers
Date: 10 Apr 1996 21:11:27 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <4kh85v$s1b@transfer.stratus.com>
I have a Intel PC running NeXTStep 3.3 and I am hooked up to a Ethernet
network along with several Apple printers I would like to have access to.
Any one have any ideas?
John_A_Adams@vos.stratus.com
From: mandrews@bob.Wittenberg.EDU (Mike Andrews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniCD (Was Re: CDPlayer just gives "could not open the CD-ROM drive")
Date: 10 Apr 96 17:24:27 GMT
Organization: Wittenberg University, Springfield OH
Message-ID: <mandrews.829157067@bob.wittenberg.edu>
References: <4jrof5$2hn@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4jttdk$5hr@crcnis3.unl.edu> <4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org> <1996Apr7.133352.17553@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> <4kcccb$omv@nuke.csu.net>
John Rudd <kzin@isc.sjsu.edu> writes:
>In <1996Apr7.133352.17553@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Geoffrey T. Falk wrote:
>> In article <4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org>,
>> <andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >OmniCD has just entered public beta testing, for those who wish to try
>> >another alternate CD player program. It should be emphasized that this
>> >is a very early beta, so if you're only looking for a polished app, you
>> >should probably pass this by for now, and as this is a low priority
>> >project, don't expect a final version in the immediate future.
>>
>> This is off-topic, but...
>>
>> Somebody should implement filesystem support for music CDs on NeXTstep.
>>
>> When you pop the CD into the drive, it would come up as a directory
>> filled with .snd files called 'track01', 'track02', etc.
>>
>> Why hasn't anybody done this? Would it upset the music publishers
>> too much? :-)
Maybe because not all CD-ROM drives can read audio data over the SCSI bus...
Toshibas and some Sony and some NEC drives can, but it's not a universal
standard by any stretch.
--
-- Mike Andrews - mandrews@wittenberg.edu - mandrews@termfrost.org (NeXT)
-- Programmer/Analyst, webmaster/netnews guy, Wittenberg Univ, Springfield OH
-- http://www.termfrost.org/~mandrews/ "Don't get even, get odd..."
From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Does Someone have procmail-3.11pre4.tar.gz compiled for NS m68k?
Date: 11 Apr 1996 04:54:48 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-72.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4ki3ao$s4u@usc.edu>
Does Someone have procmail-3.11pre4.tar.gz compiled for NS m68k?
And would be willing to NeXTMail it to me?
TIA
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@scf.usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: shenning@Cornell-Iowa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mounting an Audio CD
Date: 11 Apr 1996 03:49:47 GMT
Organization: Cornell College, Mount Vernon, IA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4khvgr$tum@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Hello,
Has anybody had any experience with:
/usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.util
I just got a Panasonic PD/CD drive. It works great except that it has a
problem loading audio CDs, or rather cdaudio.util has a problem loading CDs.
The CD should load ad /dev/rsd2a, however, cdaudio.util attempts to load it
at /dev/rsd2h. I think that the program is testing the devices from
/dev/rsd2[a..h] and not finding anything, but I cannot be sure.
All other CD's work perfectly (they load at /dev/sd2a). If anyone has any
ideas about how to make my audio CD's load I would be very grateful.
If nothing else I would like to know how NS calls cdaudio.util. Then I could
rename that program and write as script (named cdaudio.util) that called the
actual program with the proper parameters.
Thanks in advance.
--
[ Shawn P. Henning ][ Phone: ]
[ Cornell College, Box 563 ][ 319.895.8940 ]
[ 600 1st Street West ][ Maildrop: ]
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From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Why Does Preview.app offer so poor resolution?
Date: 11 Apr 1996 04:33:03 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
This is sort of a follow-up on my previous post.
Whenever I try to view a *.ps file (say, created from dvips), the resolution
offered by Preview is attrocious.
I see that the app is dated 1990 too.....
--
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/ L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \
/ `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `
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(617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax)
lones@lones.mit.edu
From: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai-kee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Which socks for NS 3.2 black ?
Date: 11 Apr 1996 05:37:19 GMT
Organization: Engineering Faculty CUHK
Message-ID: <4ki5qf$b2a@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk>
I wanna config a socks on my NS 3.2 black. Where could (and which should)
I ftp a socks compiled to run on NS 3.2 black ?
Thanks in advance
Mr.Sai-Kee Wong
From: patrick@monk.opensource.com (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why Does Preview.app offer so poor resolution?
Date: 11 Apr 1996 06:13:37 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Message-ID: <4ki7uh$qb3@trane.opensource.com>
References: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
On 04/10/96, Lones A Smith wrote:
>This is sort of a follow-up on my previous post.
>
>Whenever I try to view a *.ps file (say, created from dvips), the resolution
>offered by Preview is attrocious.
>
>I see that the app is dated 1990 too.....
>
There are two possible reasons for this:
1. You are looking at a screen that does anywhere from 72 to 100 dpi
resolution. The cheapest lasers these days do 300 dpi, which is of
course much higher and smoother resolution (100dpi= 10,000 dots per
square inch, 300dpi= 90,000 dots per sq inch). Thus, PS viewed on
screen looks a little choppy by comparison.
2. You are using TeX, and thus are receving non-optimal PS files to
view. A posting a few months ago pointed out the differences between
the TeX to DVI to PS results, and a "normally generated" PS file, such
as that produced by printing to a PS file from say, Edit.app. Also
pointed out a way to enhance this, by replacing part of the %%whatever
code with something else. Check the newsgroup archives...
Cordially.
Patrick
--
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: how to copy addresses?
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 12:38:41 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960409123611.12749D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4kdmuc$h37@mordred.gatech.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: john.bartholdi@isye.gatech.edu
In-Reply-To: <4kdmuc$h37@mordred.gatech.edu>
On 9 Apr 1996 john.bartholdi@isye.gatech.edu wrote:
> can anyone tell me how to get an ascii dump of the addresses under the
> mail app ("private users")? i cannot find an address file containing
> these...
~/.NeXT/.mailalias
To my mind that should migrate (in a later version of the OS) to:
~/.AppInfo/Mail/mailalias
But I'm a slave to consistency
Anyway, ~/.NeXT/.mailalias is a plain-text copy of your Private Users and
Private Groups listing.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
USENET: Please CC this address on replies to my posts, things vanish fast.
NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info'
>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
From: rputtkam@iiic.ethz.ch (Roman Puttkammer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: GNU Fortran
Date: 11 Apr 1996 06:43:45 GMT
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <4ki9n1$d9u@neptune.ethz.ch>
References: <4k436u$guq@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
Gregg E. Dinse (dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov) wrote:
: Hi,
: Where can I retrieve the latest and greatest version of GNU
: Fortran? Is it still a beta version? Have people been
: happy with it in general? Thanks,
I think, the main host for gnu software is prep.ai.mid.edu. But the are many
mirrors!
I have recently installed g77-0.5.18. It works fine, but you need
gcc 2.7.2 or a similar release for installation (the sources, you don't have to
install gcc binaries!). Read the README in the g77 distribution.
roman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Subject: Re: HELP: FTP front end software needed
Message-ID: <DpnopC.Kp@nexus1.tng.oche.de>
Sender: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Organization: Studentisches Netzwerk Aachen / Mitglied von IN e.V
References: <4kfhr4$be5@netnews.hinet.net>
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:03:11 GMT
In article <4kfhr4$be5@netnews.hinet.net> james@young-ray.hinet.net
writes:
> Where can I find the app, Yftps? I looked the peanuts archive but
> not able to locate it. If you have one, can you mail it to me? Or
> give me a more precise path.
Try
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/filetransfer/YF
TP.0.564.NIHS.bs.tar.gz.
There is an index search on http://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts, too.
Michael
--
Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen,
Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 (neue Rufnummer!)
Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
PGP : Public Key on demand
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: how to copy addresses?
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 08:34:46 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Apr11.083446.4123@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4kdmuc$h37@mordred.gatech.edu>
In article <4kdmuc$h37@mordred.gatech.edu> john.bartholdi@isye.gatech.edu
writes:
> can anyone tell me how to get an ascii dump of the addresses under the
> mail app ("private users")? i cannot find an address file containing
> these...
Look in ~/.NeXT/.mailalias. It is in ascii format.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: OmniCD (Was Re: CDPlayer just gives "could not open the CD-ROM drive")
Message-ID: <Dpp4Ku.Iws@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <mandrews.829157067@bob.wittenberg.edu>
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:43:41 GMT
In article <mandrews.829157067@bob.wittenberg.edu>
mandrews@bob.Wittenberg.EDU (Mike Andrews) writes:
> John Rudd <kzin@isc.sjsu.edu> writes:
> >> When you pop the CD into the drive, it would come up as a directory
> >> filled with .snd files called 'track01', 'track02', etc.
> >>
> >> Why hasn't anybody done this? Would it upset the music publishers
> >> too much? :-)
>
> Maybe because not all CD-ROM drives can read audio data over the SCSI
bus...
> Toshibas and some Sony and some NEC drives can, but it's not a
universal
> standard by any stretch.
This has been proposed before, and some people have looked into it. Yes,
it is a porblem that some CD players can't handle it.
However the real issue is that NeXT don't document the installable
filesystem interface. Technically its perfectly feasable, and it would
be very usefull, but only NeXT have the inside information to tackle it
right now, and we all know that their interests are elsewhere.
Ian
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: gcc 2.7.2 and libg++ 2.7.1 ?
Date: 11 Apr 1996 13:22:14 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <4kj127$lh4@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Compiling and installing gcc-2.7.2 for Intel or m68k is no problem,
but how about libg++ 2.7.1 ? I get various errors for conflicting
types between include files and the built-in types etc. ppp. By
patching some include files, it's possible to circumvent
those errors, but I'm not sure that's the right way.
Has anybody else built libg++-2.7.x for NEXTSTEP ?
Gregor
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| MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 54-5771 |
| INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 54-8312 |
| EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail, MIME) |
From: john.bartholdi@isye.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: finding addresses
Date: 11 Apr 1996 16:59:41 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <4kjdpt$qao@mordred.gatech.edu>
Many thanks to all those who wrote to tell me that my private addresses
could be found in ~/.NeXT/.mailalias.
Appreciatively,
John
--------------------------------------------
John J. Bartholdi, III
School of Industrial & Systems Engineering
Georgia Institute of Technology
Atlanta, Georgia 30332-0205
From: jon@.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quoted replies in NextMail
Date: 11 Apr 1996 17:30:12 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <4kjfj4$o9o@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
References: <4kh936$dje@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <4khgu0$2ft@usc.edu>
reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote:
> In <4kh936$dje@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Jon Haveman wrote:
> > Quick question. I'd like for Mail to reply with the following
[question zapped]
> Well, to be more specific, I believe in Mail.app (w/ EnhanceMail 1.2) ->
> Preferences -> Quoting -> Introduction
>
> Then enter: "%{reply-to}" wrote:
Great! Thanks! One question tho. For what do I need EnhanceMail?
This works without it, it's a LITTLE messy, but it works.
Thanks - Jon
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CD-R apps
Date: 11 Apr 1996 12:20:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4kjm11$flo@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <4kdou7$bbn@news.tuwien.ac.at> <4kgeps$1foa@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Christian Neuss) wrote:
>Khanh P. Nguyen (knguyen@callisto.nt.tuwien.ac.at) wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Does anyone know if there is an NextStep app for CD-R?
>> Thanks,
>> Khanh
>
>Oh no, not again.. its been quiet for so long... >:-)
>
I thought there was a commercial one sold bt GS Corp, http://www.gscorp.com
--
Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS
Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
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GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o--
!K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D
G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++**
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniCD (Was Re: CDPlayer just gives "could not open the CD-ROM drive")
Date: 11 Apr 1996 12:29:00 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4kjmhs$gct@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <4jrof5$2hn@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4jttdk$5hr@crcnis3.unl.edu> <4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org> <1996Apr7.133352.17553@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> <4kcccb$omv@nuke.csu.net>
John Rudd <kzin@isc.sjsu.edu> wrote:
>In <1996Apr7.133352.17553@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Geoffrey T. Falk wrote:
[snip]
>> Somebody should implement filesystem support for music CDs on NeXTstep.
>>
>> When you pop the CD into the drive, it would come up as a directory
>> filled with .snd files called 'track01', 'track02', etc.
>>
>> Why hasn't anybody done this? Would it upset the music publishers
>> too much? :-)
>>
>> Have a great spring weekend, everybody.
>>
>> g.
>>
>>
>
>I agree that this would be a cool/appropriate way to handle
>CD's on probably _any_ platform. Wonder how hard it would be
>to do this?
The Mac does this (under my daydream) using FWB CDRom toolkit,
so it CAN be done.
--
Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS
Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.1
GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o--
!K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D
G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++**
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
From: Liz Locus <lizlocus@econ.duke.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installation of LimDep v7.0
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:00:58 -0400
Organization: Duke University
Message-ID: <316D64FA.3AD8@econ.duke.edu>
References: <316C08AB.41C67EA6@phy.duke.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To: lizlocus@econ.duke.edu
I am a novice about the NeXT environment. I need to install LimDep in a
NeXT environment. I was told I need to compile the "*.FOR" files. Which
environment do I compile it in? The disk I was given is in DOS format.
I have access to a Sun environment.
Liz Locus
Dept of Economics
Duke University
Durham, NC 27708
From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Color Scanner + Scanning Software
Date: 11 Apr 1996 20:09:28 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <4kjoto$679@news.tamu.edu>
I'm looking for some feedback on different color scanners and scanning
software for an intel workstation running NS3.3. Do any manufacturers
provide bundles? How well does the scanner/software work, etc...
many thanks,
HP
--
Hanspeter Schaub
Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant
Aerospace Engineering Department
Texas A&M University
http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub
schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
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From: Paul R. Brown <pbrown@math.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: gcc 2.7.2 and libg++ 2.7.1 ?
Date: 11 Apr 1996 20:42:49 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <4kjqs9$e9m@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <4kj127$lh4@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) wrote:
>Compiling and installing gcc-2.7.2 for Intel or m68k is no problem,
>but how about libg++ 2.7.1 ? I get various errors for conflicting
>types between include files and the built-in types etc. ppp. By
>patching some include files, it's possible to circumvent
>those errors, but I'm not sure that's the right way.
>Has anybody else built libg++-2.7.x for NEXTSTEP ?
Hi, Gregor. Funny you should ask. I did that just the other day. I got the
same errors about conflicting macro definitions for hypot(,), so I did the
right thing and just removed the unnecessary, redundant definition from the
offending source file. Basically, NeXT defines hypot(,) in the ANSI math.h
include, and most everyone else probably doesn't. This same little macro has
caused problems with compiling other things, too (like kpathsearch, which
doesn't even use hypot!!!). So, anyway, change the libg++ source file by
eliminating the hypot macro (or put in an ifdef NEXT or something and then
set -DNEXT...), and everything works fine.
Paul
From: Paul R. Brown <pbrown@math.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: how to build p2c
Date: 11 Apr 1996 20:49:11 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <4kjr87$e9m@agate.berkeley.edu>
p2c is a pascal -> C translator. It works OK, especially if you just want to
run a program without converting it by hand.
If anyone out there has use for p2c, it won't work "out-of-the-box" on NeXT.
You have to make a little change. When the initial make is all done, there is
a loc.p2c.o file that gets ar'd into libp2c.a. The loc.p2c.o may contain no
symbols, and this crashes the linker when you try to actually compile the
program. So, as an alternative, I suggest:
(in the src directory)
make
rm libp2c.a
ar libp2c.a libp2c.o
ranlib -s libp2c.a
make install
And you're set.
Then,
p2c pascalfile.pas
cc /usr/lib/libp2c.a pascalfile.c -o pascalfile
will get you an exectuable "pascalfile" of your original pascal program.
Cheers.
Paul
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Canon NEXTSTEP Developer Support-Japan
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:27:39 -0500
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <316D875B.6E2C@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Has anyone seen the Canon NEXTSTEP Developer Support web pages in Japan?
http://www.cnds.canon.co.jp/Japanese_EUC/WelcomeJ.html
I can't understand the attitude of American Canon VS. Japanese Canon. I wish the two
would truly work together and also fully translate the web pages to English and provide
object.station driver downloads/updates!
I am suprised that a company like Canon would drop a product that was so expensive and
leave users to fend for themselves...It's so hard to put faith in companies- people too for
that matter since they make up companies. Although, I have MUCH MORE RESPECT for the
Japanese divisions due to their greater attention to quality and support (my opinions).
side note: Has anyone also noticed that a lot of new activity/apps are coming out of
Germany lately? There seems to be a lot of interest there...
I would really appreciate feedback from NeXT users and Canon (although they've been
completely unresponsive)
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From: lynne@lighthouse.com (Lynne Fitzpatrick Angeloro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.admin
Subject: NEXTSTEP is not available from Lighthouse Design
Date: 11 Apr 1996 22:53:02 GMT
Organization: Best Internet Communications
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kk2ge$l2m@nntp1.best.com>
Keywords: NEXTSTEP, NS 3.3
Hi all,
Sorry to say, but this isn't true, unless there are two "Lighthouse in
California":
> In comp.sys.next.misc article <4kb42q$9gp@tkhut.sojourn.com>
> Gerard T. Curd (gcurd@tricon.net) wrote:
> : Tom,
>
> : Lighthouse in California is selling 3.2 User for $25 and developer
for $100. According to
> : lighthouse these are upgradable to 3.3 when you need to. Hope it
helps.
>
> : GTC
Not sure where it got started but Lighthouse Design doesn't resell
NEXTSTEP. NEXTSTEP is only available through NeXT Software Inc.
(800-Try-next or trynext@next.com) or one of their resellers.
Best Regards,
Lynne Fitzpatrick Angeloro
Manager, Customer Care
Lighthouse Design, Ltd.,
2929 Campus Drive,
San Mateo, CA 94403-2534
415.570.7736 x34 :voice
415.570.7787 :fax
Lynne@Lighthouse.com :email
http://www.lighthouse.com/ :web page
---
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: publish magazine review of next software
Date: 12 Apr 1996 00:59:24 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4mrahv.5cg.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <4jslrn$6ib@news.tiac.net> <4jve2j$ojc@chinx4.thoughtport.net> <4kci96$f6h@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
On 9 Apr 1996 02:33:10 GMT, Wassim M. Jabi <wjabi@umich.edu> wrote:
> To see a BEAUTIFUL review on OneVision and a screen shot on Publish's
> web site:
The review mentioned running OpenStep for the Mac:
"...and when OpenStep (the next generation of the NextStep operating
system) appears later this year, Next applications should be able to run
on any platform, including Macintosh."
I don't remember hearing that OpenStep would be released for MacOS. Where
is this information?
From: rmj@leland.Stanford.EDU (Roger M. Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Circuit Diag.
Date: 11 Apr 1996 18:53:53 -0700
Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Message-ID: <4kkd3h$4ej@elaine17.Stanford.EDU>
Is there an application for drawing
circuit diagrams available for NS?
I would be very grateful for any help in this
matter
Best Regards,
Roger Jones
--
Regards,
Roger Jones
(rmj@leland.stanford.edu)
From: Stephen_MacDougall@radium.ca (Stephen MacDougall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP: FTP front end software needed
Date: 11 Apr 1996 14:21:50 GMT
Organization: ftn Internet
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kj4hv$icj@master.ftn.net>
References: <4kdctn$s5@netnews.hinet.net> <4kel3m$mj9@gate.seicom.net>
<4kfhr4$be5@netnews.hinet.net>
In <4kfhr4$be5@netnews.hinet.net>, james@young-ray.hinet.net wrote:
|
| Hi,
|
| Where can I find the app, Yftps? I looked the peanuts archive but not able
| to locate it. If you have one, can you mail it to me? Or give me a more
| precise path.
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/filetransfer/Yftp.0.564.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
Hope this helps.
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Has someone compiled perl5.002 for m68k?
Date: 12 Apr 1996 04:45:19 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-26.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4kkn4v$9p2@usc.edu>
Has someone compiled perl5.002 for m68k?
And would be willing to mail it to me?
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From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PDF viewers
Date: 12 Apr 1996 05:59:05 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <4kkrf9$bk2@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
References: <316C08AB.41C67EA6@phy.duke.edu> <4kh70q$dua@news.iastate.edu>
Rod Ragner (rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu) wrote:
> In article <316C08AB.41C67EA6@phy.duke.edu> Richard Palmer
> <palmer@phy.duke.edu> writes:
> > I need a PDF viewer for a black NeXT running 3.2.
> OmniPDF does require the Foundation Libraries, ...
You can always try PDFview.app, version 1.2 or so. I like it.
--
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Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics, Leiden University
email: gj@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl
web: http://www-lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: NS VIDEO CONFERENCING SERVER
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:24:26 -0500
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <316DF71A.417D@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Use your NEXTSTEP box to serve as a videoconferencing server for MAC and WIN, two
options I know of are:
QuickTime Conferencing Internet Reflector http://www.devtools.apple.com/qtc/
The Reflector is a one-to-many program which distributes QTC audio and video streams
over the Internet. It is a temporary solution to the lack of wide MBone deployment. In
the absence of a multicast protocol, the Reflector is the best way to alleviate the
network load on a QTC media source.
Currently, qtcd runs on the following dialects of Unix: Solaris, SunOS 4.3, Irix, AIX, Linux,
FreeBSD, and NeXTStep. It is little-endian friendly. If you have a platform you'd like to
see the reflector run on, send mail.
Also:
White Pine CU-SEEME Video Conferencing Reflectors
http://goliath.wpine.com/reflectdemo.htm
and/or
http://cu-seeme.cornell.edu/#Reflector
Download a demo version of White Pine's Enhanced CU-SeeMe Reflector software. White
Pine's unique Reflector technology accepts multiple CU-SeeMe connections and reflects
the video, audio, and additional data to multiple participants concurrently -- providing
an environment for group videoconferencing, document sharing, large audience
broadcasts or just plain chat. Available soon for Windows NT.
* NEXT OS Version 3.2 (reflector-4.0-b3-next.tar.Z)
ftp://ftp.wpine.com/pub/product/demo/reflector/4.0B3/reflector-4.0-b3-next.tar.Z
or
ftp://gated.cornell.edu/pub/video/Reflector/4.00b3.dist/reflector-4.0-b3-next.tar.Z
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From: markm@winternet.com (Mark Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ncftp 2.3.0 and/or trn 3.6 for NeXT
Date: 12 Apr 1996 07:16:43 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc
Message-ID: <4kl00r$j2t@blackice.winternet.com>
Has anyone successfully compiled either of the above programs
for black hardware? If so, I would appreciate knowing where I
could find the source and binary for them.
Thanks in advance.
--
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markm@winternet.com | can't understand." - Steely Dan
From: smy@leech (Bertram Smolny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FilmRecorder-driver ?
Date: 12 Apr 1996 09:36:16 GMT
Organization: Friedrich-Schiller-University Jena, Germany
Message-ID: <4kl86g$b50@fsuj19.rz.uni-jena.de>
Hi,
is there someone who have experiences with GScorps "eXTRASLIDE" or other
filmrecorder-driver ?
thanx
smy
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP Java Porting Issues-mailing list!
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 13:40:25 GMT
Organization: Universitt Oldenburg
Message-ID: <4klmfh$k7o@news.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
References: <316C33FD.308C@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
"Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> wrote:
>NEXTSTEP Java Porting Issues
Before subscribing to YAML (yet another mailing list), let me ask
* When is a port beeing expected approx.? *
This would be of high interest for me indeed...
Gerhard.
Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de NeXTmail & MIME
Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE
"Wanna make your old 386 as fast as a Pentium???
Try running Win95 (on the Pentium...)" -- Arash
From: patrick@monk.opensource.com (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Color Scanner + Scanning Software
Date: 12 Apr 1996 13:47:54 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Message-ID: <4klmua$812@trane.opensource.com>
References: <4kjoto$679@news.tamu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4kjoto$679@news.tamu.edu>
On 04/11/96, Hanspeter Schaub wrote:
>I'm looking for some feedback on different color scanners and scanning
>software for an intel workstation running NS3.3. Do any manufacturers
>provide bundles? How well does the scanner/software work, etc...
>
>many thanks,
>
>HP
The ScanOmatic software works pretty well, and supports many popular
scanners, such as the HP ScanJet line, the Epsons, and Umax.
The cheapest way to go seems to be to buy the scanner through Computer
Shopper or other mass-market ads, since scanners are such a commodity
item. Then get the software for it separately - I doubt that you will
find a company that will bundle in a NEXTSTEP application with the
scanner that will be cheaper than buying the two items separately.
More information on ScanOmatic:
http://www.opensource.com/Software/Input-Output/ScanOmatic.html
Cordially
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From: reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What is Mail.app's default for Preferences -> Reply-To field??
Date: 13 Apr 1996 07:08:20 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-21.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4knjt4$hed@usc.edu>
References: <4kn6d1$r4m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In <4kn6d1$r4m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Lones A Smith wrote:
> Following an errant suggestion in this group, I changed my contents to
>
> "%{reply-to}"kindly wrote:
>
> and now that literal expression appears (randomly) in MOST (but strangely
> not all) of the "To" field of messages I reply to. I just want to return
> to my old level of functionality, but can see written down nowhere (on-line
> or paper manual) the original setting. Yes, stupidly, I did not save the
> original field entry.
Sorry if I caused you some problems. I use that, plus more stuff and don't
have any problems (unless I'm missing something).
So my apologies. I don't know the original if it wasn't simply "You wrote:"
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From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: NXSpectrum - Spectrum Emulator release
Message-ID: <Dpr9E8.FA7@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 15:22:55 GMT
I've just uploaded NXSpectrum.app to the submissions directory of
pitcher.peak.org.
NXSpectrum emulates a Sinclair Spectrum (Timex something or other!) on
machines running NeXTStep (N&I tested, S&H not tested).
The code is a quick hack based on XZ80, and has a few bugs (keyboard
handling is flakey - just like the real thing). However its provided as
is, as I never liked Spectrums anyway. It's also slow on monochrome
machines (not much I can do about this).
Enjoy...
Ian Stephenson
P.S. other NeXT based emulators I've worked on which you might like to
check out:
Owl.app: BBC Micro for NeXTStep
Uae.app: Amiga Emulator - NeXTStep port of Uae.
SoftPC.app: This one costs money :-)
From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quoted replies in NextMail
Date: 12 Apr 1996 16:15:06 GMT
Organization: ALI
Message-ID: <4klvia$69j@cetus.ali.bc.ca>
References: <4kh936$dje@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In comp.sys.next.software Jon Haveman wrote:
> Quick question. I'd like for Mail to reply with the following
> format:
>
> <reply-to> wrote:
> >
> > text of other message
>
> Is there any way of doing that? I can get it to do:
You need Carl Edman's Enhance Mail bundle.
It can be found at the usual archive sites.
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniCD (Was Re: CDPlayer just gives "could not open the CD-ROM drive")
Date: 12 Apr 1996 17:27:33 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4km3q5$8a@news4.digex.net>
References: <4jrof5$2hn@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4jttdk$5hr@crcnis3.unl.edu> <4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org> <DpJvov.Hx9@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote:
> In article <4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org>,
> <andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com> wrote:
> >OmniCD has just entered public beta testing, for those who wish to try
> >another alternate CD player program. It should be emphasized that this
> >is a very early beta, so if you're only looking for a polished app, you
> >should probably pass this by for now, and as this is a low priority
> >project, don't expect a final version in the immediate future.
> Nice app. However, what I want to know is, will the finished version
look as slick as CDPlayer? Hmmmmm....maybe some trips to Pixelsight and
some IB hacking would make good thesis procrastination... :-)
I must go on record as saying (too keep up my consistent UI facist image :)
, and although Keith Olfs rules :) , and I'm not worthy to even lick his UI
boots, and although CDPlayer.app indeed does look cool ... nevertheless,
CDPlayer.app doesn't use a standard NS UI, and therefore is evil. That's
why I actually prefer Omni's version of it...it pretty much is the same
thing, without the purpley-dark-grey chrome...
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From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why Does Preview.app offer so poor resolution?
Date: 11 Apr 1996 13:51:59 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <4kj2pv$hfo@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <4ki7uh$qb3@trane.opensource.com>
In article <4ki7uh$qb3@trane.opensource.com> patrick@monk.opensource.com
(Patrick Giagnocavo) writes:
>On 04/10/96, Lones A Smith wrote:
>>
>>Whenever I try to view a *.ps file (say, created from dvips), the resolution
>>offered by Preview is attrocious.
>>
>
>There are two possible reasons for this:
>
>2. You are using TeX, and thus are receving non-optimal PS files to
>view. A posting a few months ago pointed out the differences between
>the TeX to DVI to PS results, and a "normally generated" PS file, such
>as that produced by printing to a PS file from say, Edit.app. Also
>pointed out a way to enhance this, by replacing part of the %%whatever
>code with something else. Check the newsgroup archives...
This seems misleading. Rockiki's dvips produces extremely clean and
robust PostScript code. However, TeX typically uses resolution-dependent
bitmap fonts, rather than the resolution independent outline fonts.
So a PostScript file created for the resolution of 300dpi or 600dpi
laser printer looks exceptionally bad when at the low resolution of
Preview.
Given that TeXview can directly display dvi files, this is mainly a problem
for distributing files on the web, where a person may want to preview
the file or print it at unknown resolution. To make your TeX files
resolution independent, you need to use PostScript Type 1 fonts. Since
the standard built-in PostScript fonts do not have the math fonts TeX
needs, you have to get special fonts, such as Lucida or the Type 1 versions of
the Computer Modern fonts, by Blue Sky Research. The downside is that
the size of the PostScript files goes up, memory requirements go up,
and printing speed goes down. Not huge concerns these days, but you
also have to go through all the trouble of getting the fonts and getting
everything to work. I've never bothered.
I never saw the posting referred to by Patrick G., but replacing
a few %%whatever commands could not fix the problems caused by
resolution dependent fonts.
Tim
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Subject: Re: Does Someone have procmail-3.11pre4.tar.gz compiled for NS m68k?
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 10:45:16 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960411104127.1449A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
It would be really nice if someone who can compiled 2- or 4-fat would make
this publically available.
I've tried compiling this before for NS and it wasn't "out of the box" by
a long shot. I don't know enough about compiling to fix it -- and someone
was nice enough to mail me the binaries for m68k. And of course, there
are those out there without the ability to compile at all because they
don't have the Dev stuff...
TjL
ps -- Matthew, let me know if you still need these... I think I have that
version on my NeXTStation, but I'll have to check
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Date: 13 Apr 1996 15:30:58 GMT
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From: patrick@monk.opensource.com (Patrick Giagnocavo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why Does Preview.app offer so poor resolution?
Date: 12 Apr 1996 21:08:38 GMT
Organization: OpenSource Inc.
Message-ID: <4kmgom$bma@trane.opensource.com>
References: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <4ki7uh$qb3@trane.opensource.com> <4kj2pv$hfo@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <4kj2pv$hfo@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
On 04/10/96, Timothy Van Zandt wrote:
>In article <4ki7uh$qb3@trane.opensource.com>
patrick@monk.opensource.com
>(Patrick Giagnocavo) writes:
>>On 04/10/96, Lones A Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>Whenever I try to view a *.ps file (say, created from dvips), the
resolution
>>>offered by Preview is attrocious.
>>>
>>
>>There are two possible reasons for this:
>>
>>2. You are using TeX, and thus are receving non-optimal PS files to
>>view. A posting a few months ago pointed out the differences between
>>the TeX to DVI to PS results, and a "normally generated" PS file,
such
>>as that produced by printing to a PS file from say, Edit.app. Also
>>pointed out a way to enhance this, by replacing part of the
%%whatever
>>code with something else. Check the newsgroup archives...
>
>This seems misleading. Rockiki's dvips produces extremely clean and
>robust PostScript code. However, TeX typically uses
resolution-dependent
>bitmap fonts, rather than the resolution independent outline fonts.
>So a PostScript file created for the resolution of 300dpi or 600dpi
>laser printer looks exceptionally bad when at the low resolution of
>Preview.
>
You are correct that it did not 'fix' the problem.
The situation that I am referring to was merely a hack or kludge that
someone posted to change the manner that the PS interpreter in NEXTSTEP
handled the PS code, while still remaining printable. In other words,
some of the %% commands were replaced by a different set of commands
that resulted in better display. Unfortunately, I did not save the
post (it was several months ago). Basically the problem with
displaying dvips files under NEXTSTEP is that everything looks so thin
and washed out; the replacement commands "smeared" the fonts around a
little, so that they were displayed as being darker.
Of course, for badly-formed PS, such as the output of certain PS
printer drivers under Windows or Mac, the application to get is Tailor;
open the bad PS file, save it - now you have a better PS file - you are
done.
In no way did I mean to criticize the dvips code, which has always
resulted in crisp, clean output to just about any PS printer I have
ever used.
>I never saw the posting referred to by Patrick G., but replacing
>a few %%whatever commands could not fix the problems caused by
>resolution dependent fonts.
>
Definitely the case.
Cordially
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From: fred@univ-lr.fr (Frederic Bret)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: AMD for NeXT
Date: 11 Apr 1996 14:30:27 GMT
Organization: Universite de La Rochelle
Message-ID: <4kj523$gmt@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr>
I would try to have redondant network filesystems on my NeXT network. I have
found AMD that seems to do this sort of things, but doesn't want to work with
direct mounts (like /LocalApps).
Did someone have an experience with AMD (NFS Automounter) on NeXTStep ?
Is there another program that could do such things ?
Thanks in advance
______________________________________________________
Frederic BRET
Centre de Ressources Informatiques
Faculte des Sciences - Avenue Marillac Tel : 46458214
17042 La Rochelle Cedex 1 - France Fax : 46458245
______________________________________________________
From: peterson@media.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Had GateKeeper working but now it wont
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 01:29:16 -0400
Organization: Big Yellow
Message-ID: <316F3BAC.25B3@media.mit.edu>
References: <4k7cuu$o6i@news.tiac.net> <4kbpun$fpq@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Francois Magnan wrote:
>
> On 04/06/96, Bill Peterson wrote:
>
> In the Preferences try to double click the "Display Diagnostics" check
> box. This worked for me. This seems to be a bug I will report it when
> I will have time. It happens when another user has ran GateKeeper.
>
By double clicking the "Display Diagnostics" this allowed me to dial and
connect, but now the diagnostic screen says ppp-up permission denied?
I can connect no problem manually.
Bill Peterson
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Canon NEXTSTEP Developer Support-Japan
Date: 13 Apr 1996 13:00:03 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4kp143$dfv@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <316D875B.6E2C@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
"Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> wrote:
>Has anyone seen the Canon NEXTSTEP Developer Support web pages in Japan?
>
>http://www.cnds.canon.co.jp/Japanese_EUC/WelcomeJ.html
>
>I can't understand the attitude of American Canon VS. Japanese Canon. I
wish the two
>would truly work together and also fully translate the web pages to English
and provide
>object.station driver downloads/updates!
That's nothing... did you see they supply drivers for the Canon
Laser/Bubblejets for the Japanese version of NS? For free? These drivers
supposedly are for the Japanese versions of these printers, and probably will
not work with the American/European versions, but the mind boggles.
>I am suprised that a company like Canon would drop a product that was so
expensive and
>leave users to fend for themselves...It's so hard to put faith in companies-
people too for
>that matter since they make up companies. Although, I have MUCH MORE
RESPECT for the
>Japanese divisions due to their greater attention to quality and support (my
opinions).
The Japanese seem quite fond of computers/OS's that support their native
language. OS/2 does quite well over there, for instance.
--
Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS
Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
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From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniCD (Was Re: CDPlayer just gives "could not open the CD-ROM drive")
Date: 13 Apr 1996 13:14:02 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4kp1ua$eh5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <4jrof5$2hn@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4jttdk$5hr@crcnis3.unl.edu> <4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org> <DpJvov.Hx9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <4kcn1b$eh4@news.tamu.edu> <4kcq0f$2ia@nntp1.best.com>
john@nextdoor.com (John McCracken) wrote:
>In <4kcn1b$eh4@news.tamu.edu> Hanspeter Schaub wrote:
>
>> Is is it possible to record sound of a CD with the Next CD-Rom drive on a
>> Nextstation with OmniCD? I tried pressing the left "round" button and got
>a
>> save panel, but nothing actually got saved in the *.snd file.
>
>I observed the same behavior. The README file with OmniCD says that it
>supports recording sounds from some Sony CDROM drives (the NeXT CDROM is a
>Sony CDU-541). Does OmniCD support recording from NeXT CDROM drives?
My manual for FWB CDROM Toolkit contains a list of CDROMS that support this
feature, and it claims the NeXT CDROM does not support this. Virtually all
Sony's from model 56 & up (mine's a 76) support it.
Sony models supporting digital audio extraction:
CDU-8003, CDU-8003A (Apple 300, 300i)
CDU-55S, firmware 1.0f or higher
CDU-561
CDU-561SUNCD
CDU-76S (Apple 600)
I have a whole slew of other manufacturer model numbers, I would be happy to
confirm whether your CDROM supports this feature. I cannot confirm that it
doesn't or whether it will work with OmniCD (I just use it) all I know is
that my Sony CDU-76S works just great.
--
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Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
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From: jhayden@xiphoid.fnbc.com (John Hayden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Does not recognize Parallel Port
Date: 13 Apr 1996 00:14:49 GMT
Organization: First Chicago NBD Corporation, Chicago IL, USA
Message-ID: <4kmrlp$297@news.fnbc.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'm running version 3.3 of Nextstep and have bought a new lazer printer
(hp4mp).
I have a compaq 486/66m.
I've added the onBoard Parallel port using configure.app.
Yet when I try to create an entry in PrintManager and select Parallel as
my communication port. I get the message "the Communication option isn't
available. Check you computers configuration".
I run run my computers configuration disks and everything is fine
as far as the parallel port goes.
I have a dos partition and am able to print from Windows just fine.
Have anyone else seen this?
Thanks in advance
John
From: hal@sims.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why Does Preview.app offer so poor resolution?
Date: 13 Apr 1996 20:53:53 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kp491$55r@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A
Smith) writes:
> This is sort of a follow-up on my previous post.
>
> Whenever I try to view a *.ps file (say, created from dvips), the resolution
> offered by Preview is attrocious.
>
> I see that the app is dated 1990 too....
As several people have already pointed out, this is because you are using
CM fonts which are resolution-dependent bit maps. I wrote the attached file,
TimesCM.sty, that substitutes Times Roman fonts for the TeX CM text fonts,
but keeps the CM math fonts for the math. The appearance is "OK" and
it saves a lot in terms of bandwidth.
This is for plain.tex; if you use LaTeX you can just use times.sty.
This is a quick hack by the way; I've probably forgotten to
substitute a few fonts. If you notice any I've left out, send me email
and I'll fix it.
------------cut here and save as TimesCM.sty
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
% Times for text, Computer Modern for math
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
\font\sctwelve=ptmr8r scaled\magstep1
\font\scten=ptmr8r at 10 pt
\font\tenrm=ptmr8r at 10 pt
\font\teni=cmmi10
\font\tensy=cmsy10
\font\tenbf=ptmb8r at 10 pt
\font\tenit=ptmri8r at 10 pt
\font\ninerm=ptmr8r at 9 pt
\font\eightrm=ptmr8r at 8 pt
\font\sixrm=ptmr8r at 6 pt
\font\ninei=cmmi9
\font\eighti=cmmi8
\font\sixi=cmmi6
\font\ninesy=cmsy9
\font\eightsy=cmsy8
\font\sixsy=cmsy6
\font\ninebf=ptmb8r at 9pt
\font\eightbf=ptmb8r at 8pt
\font\sixbf=ptmb8r at 6pt
\font\nineit=ptmri8r at 9pt
\font\eightit=ptmri8r at 8pt
\rm
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University of California hal@sims.berkeley.edu
Berkeley, CA 94720-4600 http://www.sims.berkeley.edu/~hal
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What is Mail.app's default for Preferences -> Reply-To field??
Date: 13 Apr 1996 03:17:53 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4kn6d1$r4m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Following an errant suggestion in this group, I changed my contents to
"%{reply-to}"kindly wrote:
and now that literal expression appears (randomly) in MOST (but strangely
not all) of the "To" field of messages I reply to. I just want to return
to my old level of functionality, but can see written down nowhere (on-line
or paper manual) the original setting. Yes, stupidly, I did not save the
original field entry.
Lones
PS dread -l reveals the entry
Mail ReplyTo "\"%{reply-to}\"kindly wrote:"
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(617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax)
lones@lones.mit.edu
From: ocm@sn.no (Ole Chr. Magneshaugen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TIFF - Tracer
Date: 12 Apr 1996 22:59:29 GMT
Organization: SN Internett
Message-ID: <4kmn8h$jaa@hasle.sn.no>
Is there a good utility available, preferably PD or Shareware, that allow for
TIFF files to be traced to make editable postscript information?
-olechr
From: maria_eugenia@jump.net (Maria Eugenia Tapia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ppp for NS3.1
Date: 13 Apr 1996 21:46:01 -0500
Organization: Jump Point Communications, Inc.
Message-ID: <4kpot9$fha@serv1.jump.net>
I'm still running NS 3.1 in my NeXTStation. I got ppp-2.2,
but I realized it only runs in 3.2 or higher. Is there an
equivalent for my old 3.1? I'm looking to use a browser
(Netsurfer?) through my modem.
Thanks for any info.
Maria Eugenia Tapia (maria_eugenia@jump.net)
From: yibwu@plato.sky.bdm.com(Yibing Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Use NeXT cc to compile C++ code---can I?
Date: 13 Apr 1996 15:09:48 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <4kog3s$2r8@news.mcl.bdm.com>
Well, to be specific, the configuration is NeXT 3.3/Mach/Intel with NeXT
Developer installed. Now I have some code that has been compiled by g++ for
Ultrix, uses iostream and company. Can I recompile it with the cc compiler?
or I have to install gcc again?
Thanks,
Bing
From: pbrown@palms.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why Does Preview.app offer so poor resolution?
Date: 14 Apr 1996 06:13:02 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Message-ID: <4kq51e$lgs@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <4kp491$55r@agate.berkeley.edu>
>In article <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A
>Smith) writes:
>> This is sort of a follow-up on my previous post.
>>
>> Whenever I try to view a *.ps file (say, created from dvips), the resolution
>> offered by Preview is attrocious.
>>
>> I see that the app is dated 1990 too....
I had observed the poor on-screen rendering and not thought much of it
until now, but I decided to install the BaKoMa fonts and see how it went.
The difference is remarkable! For one thing, DVIPS runs in a flash. It
runs almost literally as fast as it can print the page numbers (and
that's on 25MHz black). It also looks perfect on-screen, although this is
of no concern whatsoever given the existence of TeXview.
The one bad thing is that documents prepared this way print fine but
don't look good in Ghostscript, which is what most of the poor,
unfortunate non-NeXT-using mathematical public uses to preview postscript
documents. Anybody know a work-around for this? It is clearly best to
distribute resolution independent documents, but they should preview on
other platforms, too (in an ideal world...).
Paul
From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MIME attachments
Date: 14 Apr 1996 08:44:49 GMT
Organization: Unconfigured
Message-ID: <4kqdu1$nqf@jaring.my>
Nextmail attachments are great, but I'm sure that sooner or later I'll have
to either send or receive a MIME version mail attachments. How can this be
done on a NS box that connects to the net via an ISP?
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From: jon@.mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What is Mail.app's default for Preferences -> Reply-To field??
Date: 13 Apr 1996 14:43:14 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <4koei2$k0f@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
References: <4kn6d1$r4m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <4knjt4$hed@usc.edu>
reichman@scf.usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote:
> In <4kn6d1$r4m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Lones A Smith wrote:
> > Following an errant suggestion in this group, I changed my contents to
> >
> > "%{reply-to}"kindly wrote:
> >
> > and now that literal expression appears (randomly) in MOST (but strangely
> > not all) of the "To" field of messages I reply to. I just want to return
> > to my old level of functionality, but can see written down nowhere
(on-line
> > or paper manual) the original setting. Yes, stupidly, I did not save the
> > original field entry.
>
> Sorry if I caused you some problems. I use that, plus more stuff and don't
> have any problems (unless I'm missing something).
>
> So my apologies. I don't know the original if it wasn't simply "You wrote:"
Matthew, it was an errant assertion of mine that lead to his problem.
That is, I claimed that you could do what you suggested without having
EnhanceMail installed. So, Lones went and tried it. Turns out that I
was wrong.
Not understanding what the Compose->Reply-To: field was, Lones inserted
"%{reply-to}"kindly wrote:
in the box. I recommended in e-mail that simply changing the contents of
the box back to his e-mail address, but this doesn't seem to work.
Failing that, probably changing the dwrite manually is the next thing to
try. Lones, give the following a try:
dwrite Mail.app ReplyTo lones@lones.mit.edu
If that doesn't work, the only other thing I can think of is to delet
your user ID and then put it back. This is liable to change many other
things that you probably don't want to change tho.
--
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From: nevai@math.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS 3.3 /bin/sh needed [desperately]
Date: 14 Apr 1996 06:34:56 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Sender: Paul Nevai
Message-ID: <4kqkcg$sh8@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu>
I think I found a bug in /bin/sh in NS 3.2. Could you please e-mail me a
/bin/sh for NS 3.3 so I could compare them? Thanks. I will report on the bug
after the comparisions.
Please respond by e-mail. Thanks. Best regards...Paul
Paul Nevai nevai@math.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University 1-614-292-5310 (Office/Answering Device)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A. 1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS and Zyxel ISDN Modem
Date: 14 Apr 1996 10:33:12 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <4kqk98$tl@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
I use NS (Intel). I have been using a Zyxel 1496 so far without any problems.
Now I added two new serial ports with higher speed (*2 and *4) and bought a ISDN
Zyxel. My old Zyxel was using cufb (57600) and the new was supposed to work on
cufd (57600*2=115200).
When I use 'tip -l cufd' everthing works fine and I have full acces to the modem
which responds normaly.
I tried the new Zyxel on both (cufb and cufd) ports and the following problems
occured:
* uucp:
works with both ports but the transfer rate with cufb (4500-5000 cps) is higher
than with cufd (3500-400 cps). It should be the other way round and I should get
about 7000-8000 cps on cufd.
* mgetty:
I managed to get fax sending to work on cufb. But no fax receiving. mgetty picks
up the line when it rings but hangs up a few seconds later without receiving the
fax. On cufd neither does work. The new Zyxel should work with the same fax
commands than the old one. But it obviously doesn't.
mgetty even isn't able to initialize the modem during boot up/login in. The
modem seems to respond weired charakters. I tried the init string via tip and
got a OK from the Zyxel. So the problem seems to be somewhere else.
* ppp:
Doesn't work at all with the new Zyxel. The same problem as with mgetty. The
modem seems to respond weired charakters. Although the script is alright and
worked with the old Zyxel.
Any help and comments would be appreciated.
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
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From: Marc@AccessOne.com(Marc Salvatori)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What is Mail.app's default for Preferences -> Reply-To field??
Date: 14 Apr 1996 19:30:24 GMT
Organization: AccessOne
Message-ID: <4krjog$86q@news.accessone.com>
References: <4kn6d1$r4m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In <4kn6d1$r4m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Lones A Smith wrote:
> Mail ReplyTo "\"%{reply-to}\"kindly wrote:"
I missed the beginning of this thread, so bear with me if I missed the jist
of your question. Your ReplyTo should contain your named address,
<Host>@<Domain>.<RootDomain>(ie, Iones@Iones.mit.edu). It appears that you
are interested in a quote introduction; from EnhanceMail it is identified as
QuoteIntro, which(for me) has the following value:
On %d {%{From} wrote:%n
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>< Marc J. Salvatori | ><
>< mailto:salvo@accessone.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted
><
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From: martin@jeramy.westfalen.de
Subject: this "interleaced-mode" is nearly killing me !!!
Message-ID: <DpuE49.1K7@jeramy.westfalen.de>
Sender: news@jeramy.westfalen.de (news)
Organization: JerySoft
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 07:57:45 GMT
Hi you out there,
well I have a Hercules Dynamite VL Pro VGA-grphic card installed in my PC ...
I am using NSi 3.3 and the only driver Ive got by now is that on, that gives
you exactly 1024 x 768 RGB by
45 Hz INTERLEACED !!!
I think its revision b by a modified NS 3.2 driver (from Ricardo J .Parada
and John Ruggentaler)
So, pleas, tell me that there is a newer on without this interleace in a high
color standard !!!
Where can I get it from ?!?
--
... M.Roggon (martin@jeramy.westfalen.de)
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why Does Preview.app offer so poor resolution?
Date: 14 Apr 1996 21:39:42 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4krrau$p2v@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <4kp491$55r@agate.berkeley.edu>
<4kq51e$lgs@agate.berkeley.edu>
> I had observed the poor on-screen rendering and not thought much of it
> until now, but I decided to install the BaKoMa fonts and see how it went.
> The difference is remarkable! For one thing, DVIPS runs in a flash. It
> runs almost literally as fast as it can print the page numbers (and
> that's on 25MHz black). It also looks perfect on-screen, although this is
> of no concern whatsoever given the existence of TeXview.
>
> The one bad thing is that documents prepared this way print fine but
> don't look good in Ghostscript, which is what most of the poor,
> unfortunate non-NeXT-using mathematical public uses to preview postscript
> documents. Anybody know a work-around for this? It is clearly best to
> distribute resolution independent documents, but they should preview on
> other platforms, too (in an ideal world...).
Another problem I encountered was that the PS files were not very portable
because the fonts installed on my system were not on the campus system (who's
printer I used). Thus, the printer would substitute some ugly fixed width
font and documents looked terrible. I never figured out how to get a
portable PS file.
- Steve
---
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: Masahiro Takatsuka <Masahiro.Takatsuka@eng.monash.edu.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Spell check (UK) English
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:17:29 -0700
Organization: Intelligent Robotics Research Center: Monash University
Message-ID: <3172A0C9.41C6@eng.monash.edu.au>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,
Is there an English(UK) dictionary for spell check?
masa
============================================================================
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Email: Masahiro.Takatsuka@eng.monash.edu.au(NeXTmail)
URL: http://mufasa.eng.monash.edu.au/~masa
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From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MIME attachments
Date: 15 Apr 1996 01:43:46 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-46.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4ks9ki$mfm@usc.edu>
References: <4kqdu1$nqf@jaring.my>
In <4kqdu1$nqf@jaring.my> Michael Olan wrote:
> Nextmail attachments are great, but I'm sure that sooner or later I'll have
> to either send or receive a MIME version mail attachments. How can this be
> done on a NS box that connects to the net via an ISP?
If you're using Mail.app 3.3 (which a friend of mine found out ran great on
NS3.2, I don't know how???) then it is all quite simply done in the same way.
OT I'm not sure what you'd do if you didn't have Mail 3.3 except get one of
the command line mail utilities.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 15 Apr 1996 04:15:12 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4ksigg$hur@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: Paul R. Brown <pbrown@math.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why Does Preview.app offer so poor resolution?
Date: 15 Apr 1996 05:22:32 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <4ksmeo$rg8@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <4kp491$55r@agate.berkeley.edu> <4kq51e$lgs@agate.berkeley.edu> <4krrau$p2v@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) wrote:
>[using BaKoMaFonts with NeXT]
>Another problem I encountered was that the PS files were not very portable
>because the fonts installed on my system were not on the campus system
(who's
>printer I used). Thus, the printer would substitute some ugly fixed width
>font and documents looked terrible. I never figured out how to get a
>portable PS file.
Stephen is quite right, as I discovered, too. Also, this seems to break my
version of TeXview... a _bad_ thing.
Here's my solution to all of the problems. I looked over the info for dvips,
and tried a few things, and this seems to work. No promises, but it works for
me. (I can print the documents anywhere, the font files are visibly included
in the ps file, and the document previews great in gv on Mouse-X. AND TeXview
works again.)
1) You need to be root.
2) copy the file config.ps to config.psfonts
3) download the BaKoMa fonts from ftp://next-peak.ftp.org/pub/next/fonts/
4) expand and install the packages as instructed.
5) edit the file config.psfonts as instructed in the readme's for the BaKoMa
fonts. (Be sure to comment-out or remove the "N" option if it's been set.
This option being set will prevent the reader from being able to page through
your document in their favorite previewer, eg., ghostview.)
6) edit the files /LocalLibrary/Fonts/cmfonts.map and
/LocalLibrary/Fonts/lafonts.map (and the cyrillic one, too, if you're using
those) so that the lines look like
cmr10 <cmr10
as opposed to the original
cmr10 cmr10
7) create symbolic links between the file
/LocalLibrary/Fonts/<fontname>.font/<fontname>
and /usr/local/wherever_you_put_psfonts/<fontname> for each <fontname> you
want to use.
In my case, I've got NeXT teTeX installed in /usr/local/tex, so I made a
directory
/usr/local/tex/texmf/fonts/Type1/bakoma
and put all of the links in there.
8*) if you use teTeX, run texhash.
9) You're off to the races! When you want to create a site-independent
psfile, just type:
dvips -o foo.ps -Ppsfonts foo.dvi
and dvips will make a file for you with the fonts included.
Here's a little shell script to do the linking for you. Save it in a file
called script, chmod +x script, and then (assuming you're in the directory
where you saved script)
./script /full/path/where/you/want/files/to/go
---SNIP HERE---
#!/bin/sh
for i in `cat /LocalLibrary/Fonts/*fonts.map | awk '{ print $1 }'`
do
ln -s /LocalLibrary/Fonts/$i'.font'/$i $*
done
---SNIP HERE---
I think that will do it, and I recommend using the script (linking all those
files by hand would take you all day...).
Someone out there (Gregor?!?), but not me, is welcome to slip a slightly more
polished form of these instructions into a TeX distribution.
NOTE: This does make the files noticably larger (by a few hundred kilobytes),
BUT they are cleaner and they are resolution independent and preview very
nicely on just about anything.
Cheers,
Paul Brown
pbrown@math.berkeley.edu
From: Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What is Mail.app's default for Preferences -> Reply-To field??
Date: 14 Apr 1996 14:31:48 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <4kr28k$ff1@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <4kn6d1$r4m@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <4knjt4$hed@usc.edu>
<4koei2$k0f@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
In <4koei2$k0f@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Jon Haveman wrote:
> Matthew, it was an errant assertion of mine that lead to his problem.
> That is, I claimed that you could do what you suggested without having
> EnhanceMail installed. So, Lones went and tried it. Turns out that I
> was wrong.
Yes, that one surprised me too.
> Failing that, probably changing the dwrite manually is the next thing to
> try. Lones, give the following a try:
>
> dwrite Mail.app ReplyTo lones@lones.mit.edu
>
> If that doesn't work, the only other thing I can think of is to delet
> your user ID and then put it back. This is liable to change many other
> things that you probably don't want to change tho.
That wouldn't work because you need to 'dwrite Mail ...', not 'dwrite
Mail.app ...'. In any case why not just 'dremove Mail ReplyTo' ? In general
just removing any single default will return it to its original value.
As far as Mail quoting goes, I wouldn't rely on there being a Reply-To:
header. Many people don't have (or need) one and on replies to them this
quote intro would expand to nil. Use the From: header as everybody has that
one (or even better use the %f shortcut). But then all that is explained in
the EnhanceMail online help.
Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: publish magazine review of next software
Message-ID: <Dpw8o1.KB@onevision.de>
Sender: news@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <slrn4mrahv.5cg.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 07:55:13 GMT
In article <slrn4mrahv.5cg.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> On 9 Apr 1996 02:33:10 GMT, Wassim M. Jabi <wjabi@umich.edu> wrote:
> > To see a BEAUTIFUL review on OneVision and a screen shot on
Publish's
> > web site:
>
> The review mentioned running OpenStep for the Mac:
>
> "...and when OpenStep (the next generation of the NextStep
operating
> system) appears later this year, Next applications should be able
to run
> on any platform, including Macintosh."
>
> I don't remember hearing that OpenStep would be released for MacOS.
Where
> is this information?
The MacOS is not mentioned... The point is OpenStep for the MAC and
this means OpenStep for Solaris on MAC hardware...
--
======================================================================
Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH
Support Florian-Seidl-Strasse 11
Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg
(NeXTMail and MIME welcome) Germany
From: 3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I have a HP DeskJet printer -- can I print w/ it?
Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:20:53 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
Message-ID: <4ktev5$a2@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
References: <4kgf4h$otf@news2.widomaker.com>
Blake Patterson (blake@widomaker.com) wrote:
: Yes? Or need it be Postscript? Please email me.
: blake@widomaker.com
You should get ghostHPDJ.0.2.I.bs.tar.gz from a peanuts archive near
you. It prints on a deskjet through ghostscript (Postscript interpreter
by GNU).
Eberhard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.emulators.misc
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Uae.app - Amiga Emulator for NeXTStep
Message-ID: <DpwMqE.7AC@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 12:59:01 GMT
I've just uploaded a fat binary of Uae for NeXTStep to pitcher.peak.org
(submissions directory).
Full info on Uae can be found at
http://www-users.infomatik.rwth-aachen/~cruz/uae.html
This NeXTStep release is based on 0.5.2. The necessary changes will be
merge into the source distribution some time soon (probably for 0.6.0),
but in the mean time the official source may not compile on NeXTStep.
For those that don't know Uae - Unix Amiga Emulator runs quite a bit of
Amiga software, and the current release is quite nippy considering the
work involved in this stuff.
Enjoy...
Ian
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: HELP: SoundBlaster 16 -- very flaky!
Date: 15 Apr 1996 13:31:34 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <4ktj3m$kip@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <Dp9Grq.L34@bigtop.dr.att.com>
I have a problem with a SoundBlaster 16 on an Adaptec P/I-P55TP4XE mainboard:
The sound is terribly flaky, it will only play about 50% of the sounds it
should play.
Does anybody have an idea, whats happening?
Thanks for any help!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932
Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at
Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sappenz@pi1.informatik.uni-mannheim.de (Soeren Appenzeller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Network-Backup on Black NeXT ?
Date: 15 Apr 1996 15:35:20 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum Uni Mannheim
Message-ID: <4ktqbo$oio@trumpet.uni-mannheim.de>
Hello everybody,
does anybody knows about a good shell-script or an application for
the following task:
I've a NeXT-network of 12 Black NeXT's.
I want to backup all files on a tape streamer.
I want to backup filesystems, that are NOT MOUNTED on the computer with
the tape streamer.
I want to run the back-up software on an other computer than the tape-streamer
is connected to.
I used to back up my network with a shell-script on a Sun. Because of
a restructure I now have to back-up on NeXT, so the Sun-Script won't work
anymore.
The only commercial solution I know is "Savety-Net". But Savety-Net can't
backup remote Filesystems (they have to be mounted on the Back-up-Machine...).
So if anybody has written a shellscript for those needs jet, or knows of an
application, please write me.
Many thanks,
Soeren.
--
Soeren Appenzeller, Mail: sappenz@pi1.informatik.uni-mannheim.de
WWW: <http://pi1.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/HomePages/sappenz.html>
SNAIL: Universitaet Mannheim,PI 1,Seminargebaeude A5,D-68131 Mannheim,Germany
Office: Seminargebaeude A5,C008, Tel: 0049 621 292 196, Fax: 0049 621 292 5297
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniCD (Was Re: CDPlayer just gives "could not open the CD-ROM drive")
Date: 15 Apr 1996 15:47:54 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4ktr3a$cf@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <4jrof5$2hn@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4jttdk$5hr@crcnis3.unl.edu>
<4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org> <DpJvov.Hx9@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
<4km3q5$8a@news4.digex.net>
In <4km3q5$8a@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote:
> I must go on record as saying (too keep up my consistent UI facist image :)
> , and although Keith Olfs rules :) , and I'm not worthy to even lick his UI
> boots, and although CDPlayer.app indeed does look cool ... nevertheless,
> CDPlayer.app doesn't use a standard NS UI, and therefore is evil. That's
> why I actually prefer Omni's version of it...it pretty much is the same
> thing, without the purpley-dark-grey chrome...
There were some noises made by NeXT a long time ago that the then plans for
4.0 would include a UI that looked a lot more like CDPlayer and NEXTIME.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk
Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems
Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MIME mail & color (Was: What is Mail.app's default for Preferences -> Reply-To field??)
Date: 15 Apr 1996 16:23:36 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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Will MIME mail ever allow for color in the messages.?
(I really like coloring the quotes as a bare minimum of functionality)
Besides, it would then fit in nicely with Carl's preference for the same.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
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From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why Does Preview.app offer so poor resolution?
Date: 15 Apr 1996 17:12:10 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Message-ID: <4ku01a$h70@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <4kp491$55r@agate.berkeley.edu>
Stephen J. Perkins (perkins@cps.msu.edu) wrote:
:
: Another problem I encountered was that the PS files were not very portable
: because the fonts installed on my system were not on the campus system (who's
: printer I used).
If you print on an "outside" printer, then you have to tell dvips, in
psfonts.map file, that your fonts are "downloadable" instead of "built-in".
In the first case your fonts will be embedded in a file, in the second one
they will be skipped.
Because on NeXT all fonts really reside on your hard drive then a difference
is really in an absence or presence of "<" character preceding font location
in psfonts.map file - as documented in dvips manual. Also, in a case
of "downloadable" fonts one can use fonts which are NOT installed in the
NeXT sense. An entry in psfonts.map will then look like this:
cmr10 <"full path to a file here"/cmr10.pfa
'.pfb' format can be used as well with an equal success. "Not installed"
fonts will not show up in your font panel - which may, or may not, be
desired.
Michal
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TIFF - Tracer
Date: 15 Apr 1996 19:05:19 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <4ku6lf$6j0@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
References: <4kmn8h$jaa@hasle.sn.no>
In-Reply-To: <4kmn8h$jaa@hasle.sn.no>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
On 04/12/96, Ole Chr. Magneshaugen wrote:
>Is there a good utility available, preferably PD or Shareware, that
allow for
>TIFF files to be traced to make editable postscript information?
>
>-olechr
>
>
Adobe's Illustrator: not sold anymore
Stone Design's Create: http://www.stone.com/
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University of Michigan
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From: wgilbert@uwaterloo.ca (Will Gilbert)
Subject: Re: TIFF - Tracer
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 17:43:03 GMT
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Organization: University of Waterloo
Ole Chr. Magneshaugen writes
> Is there a good utility available, preferably PD or Shareware,
> that allow for TIFF files to be traced to make editable postscript
> information?
There is a Shareware program Tracer at
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Graphics
/3d/Tracer.1.3.NIH.b.tar.gz
or
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/graphics/Tracer-1.3.tar.gz
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From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I have NeXTSTEP for Intel 3.2? Too old?
Date: 15 Apr 1996 02:06:03 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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blake@widomaker.com (Blake Patterson) wrote:
>
> I did not grab 3.3 while still a student. Is 3.2 worth
> using today?
I would think so -- because I use it :-)
(well, on some of my machines)
You'd want to pick up the NeXTanswer that would give you the
Foundation kit, and you'll be able to run some of the newer
applications that come out. You won't be able to *compile*
anything using the Foundation Kit, but at least you'll be
able to use some useful programs like OmniWeb or OmniPDF.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Robert Gibson Jacobs <rjacobs@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need "simple-to-setup" X-windows package for Intel NS 3.3
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 14:52:05 -0700
Organization: Stanford University
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Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
I am running NeXTStep version 3.3 on a Pentium 100 and am looking for
a no-pain X-windows package that is very easy to install and use. I have
a fair background in compiling packages, but nothing too extensive.
I've looked at the source for mouseX, etc. but they all seem to require
a fairly painful installation process. Is there a pre-compiled binary
or another alternative that is free?
Any information would be appreciated.
Respond to:
rjacobs@stokes.stanford.edu
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Upgrade to 3.3 clobbered sendmail -- HELP!!
Date: 15 Apr 1996 23:49:50 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
Message-ID: <4kunau$ofn@dropit.pgh.net>
I just upgraded to 3.3, including Patch1 with Fix #2 (remove all
comments from etc/hosts), from 3.2. Formerly, if my Inet connection
was down, outgoing mail would queue in /usr/spool/mqueue. Now, it
bounces. Something has changed but I don't know what. I recall
seeing notes about this months ago but I didn't save them. Now I
have to start the thread all over again. Please help if you have any
idea what has happened and how to fix it.
Outgong mail now bounces with the following message:
421 site-name (ddn)... Deferred: No such file or directory
554 user@site-name... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from
name server): No such file or directory
It is pretty clear that something got changed on me. I need to
change it back!
-----
Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883
me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Upgrade to 3.3 clobbered sendmail -- HELP!!
Date: 16 Apr 1996 01:02:04 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-39.usc.edu
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References: <4kunau$ofn@dropit.pgh.net>
This problem is that you now need to make sure you have correct Fully
Qualified Domain Names for your local machine and your mailserver. Once this
is defined your problem should go away.
QUESTION: which version of sendmail are you using? You should considering
upgrading to 8.7.5 - the pkg is on the usual sites c/o Robert La Ferla.
If you have any questions Maybe I can answer them.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniCD (Was Re: CDPlayer just gives "could not open the CD-ROM drive")
Date: 16 Apr 1996 01:24:49 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc.
Message-ID: <4kust2$ghk@news4.digex.net>
References: <4jrof5$2hn@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4jttdk$5hr@crcnis3.unl.edu> <4k7ij6$4s4@gaea.titan.org> <DpJvov.Hx9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <4km3q5$8a@news4.digex.net> <4ktr3a$cf@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) wrote:
> In <4km3q5$8a@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote:
> There were some noises made by NeXT a long time ago that the then plans
for
> 4.0 would include a UI that looked a lot more like CDPlayer and NEXTIME.
Again, I don't have anything against the CDPlayer.app UI...or NEXTIME's 1.0
UI... They are both rather nice... What I do not want (as if I had a say
in the matter :) is to have different UI's on the same platform. Let's
pick one, either the current one, or 4.0's, or NEXTIME 1.0 or 2.0, or
CDPlayer.app, and make the entire OS's UI the same way...
Other wise we get in the warehouse outlet UI syndrome that has it other
systems...I think the danger of having many outside-world UI's come in to
the NEXT UI is too great. There are a million nice outside-world
interfaces (e.g. My blender has a series of buttons for speed
control-rather than a slider, my stereo has a turn knob-rather than a fly
wheel, my turntable [Bang and Olfsen] has no visible buttons whatsoever, it
auto senses the album-while my friends turntable has all kinds of buttons
and dials, my microwave has a flat panel keypad-while my other microwave
has up and down buttonns for increasing/decreasing the duration of
cooking.) All of these interfaces are fine. The problem is, if every
developer adopts their personal appliance-of-choice-UI into the NeXT UI,
then the NeXT UI gets compromised...
I've seen it happen on other systems... If a tradeoff must be made (and
I'm not sure one must...) then I think it's better to err on the side of UI
consistency... Again, I think CDPlayer.app is cool too... But, you have
enough apps looking differnt, and then the desktop starts to look like an
appliance wharehouse :)
Take care,
P.S. Keith Ohlfs is the UI God :)
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: where does /usr/bin/latex get installed from?
Date: 16 Apr 1996 05:08:04 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4kv9vk$dev@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
A friend of mine just installed NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.3 on a new Pentium but the
latex binary executable does not seem to be present so when he tries to tex
things from TeXview he gets a command not found error. On two other NEXTSTEP
for Intel systems, one 3.2 and one 3.3, latex is /usr/bin/latex . tex and
slitex are also in /usr/bin on these systems but not present on the new
system.
I can't figure out where these install from. It doesn't appear to be any .pkg
file from NextLibrary/Receipts that I could find. NeXTTeX.pkg is present in
Receipts, but doing a list using the Installer revealed that /usr/bin/latex
isn't included in that package, nor in any other I could find.
Where does /usr/bin/latex come from? Why might it be absent after a
presumably normal (done by someone else) install of NEXTSTEP 3.3 / Intel?
Most importantly, what's the easiest way to install all the missing files?
(Of course, just copying the 3 files over to /usr/bin/ doesn't work as there
seem to be other file missing as well.) Is there some sort of Make that needs
to be done?
-Karl
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From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: publish magazine review of next software
Date: 16 Apr 1996 08:27:27 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4kvllf$tp@turbocat.snafu.de>
References: <4jslrn$6ib@news.tiac.net> <4jve2j$ojc@chinx4.thoughtport.net> <4kci96$f6h@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <slrn4mrahv.5cg.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) wrote:
(...)
> The review mentioned running OpenStep for the Mac:
>
> "...and when OpenStep (the next generation of the NextStep operating
> system) appears later this year, Next applications should be able to run
> on any platform, including Macintosh."
>
> I don't remember hearing that OpenStep would be released for MacOS. Where
> is this information?
Solaris on PPC? WIN-NT on PPC?
_ _
_(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development,
(_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG,
_/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152
(______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Audio CD mounting problem
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 16 Apr 1996 13:37:11 GMT
Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290
Distribution: world
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References: <4kp078$gsi@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu>
shenning@Cornell-Iowa.edu wrote:
: I posted about this problem earlier, but I think this post is a bit clearer
: than the earlier one. I am guessing it is either a problem with my CD drive
: or a problem with cdaudio.util
: If I put a regular CDROM filesystem into into my CD drive it mounts it with
: no trouble:
: Console:
: probing for DOS
: probing for CDROM
: Apr 13 01:57:05 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /CDROM
: Messages:
: Apr 13 01:57:03 leibniz mach: sd2: No Valid Disk Label
: Apr 13 01:57:03 leibniz mach: sd2: Device Block Size: 2048 bytes
: Apr 13 01:57:03 leibniz mach: sd2: Device Capacity: 460 MB
: Apr 13 01:57:04 leibniz mach: CDROM File System: LOADED
: Apr 13 01:57:04 leibniz mach: CDROM File System: Initialized
: There is a /CDROM in /
: However when I mount an audio CD this happens:
: Console:
: probing for DOS
: probing for CDROM
: probing for mac
: probing for cdaudio
: Apr 13 01:59:46 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio
:
: Messages:
: Apr 13 01:59:45 leibniz mach: sd2: Disk Unformatted
: OmniCD Alert:
: Unable to open requested device /dev/rsd2h
: There is no /cdaudio in /
: The worst part is that after this attempt to mount an audio CD I can no
: longer mount any form of CD. It is really annoying.
: Thanks,
: ---
: [ Shawn P. Henning ][ Phone: ]
: [ Cornell College, Box 563 ][ 319.895.8940 ]
: [ 600 1st Street West ][ Maildrop: ]
: [ Mount Vernon, IA 52314 ][ shenning@Cornell-Iowa.edu ]
: [______ http://wwwcsc.Cornell-Iowa.edu/~shenning/ ______]
I solved this problem:
- Make sure you do not boot up with a CD-ROM in the drive. let it time out.
- Start up CD-PLAYER first, or have the public window server turned on.
- Put in the Audio CD......it should be fine now...
-Darren
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From: beatty@netcom.com (Derek Lee Beatty)
Subject: Re: MIME attachments
Message-ID: <4kuof9$9ed@beatty.slip.netcom.com>
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References: <4kqdu1$nqf@jaring.my> <4ks9ki$mfm@usc.edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 00:09:13 GMT
reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote:
>In <4kqdu1$nqf@jaring.my> Michael Olan wrote:
>> Nextmail attachments are great, but I'm sure that sooner or later I'll
have
>> to either send or receive a MIME version mail attachments.
I believe that a few years ago somebody posted a filter "n2m" that converted
Nextmail to MIME. I do remember recording my cat's meow on my NeXT at home,
emailing it to my account at school, and hearing the result come out of the
speaker on my office-mate's sparcstation, back in August 1992.
Anyone know the current whereabouts of n2m?
--
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From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann)
Subject: Re: OneVision
Message-ID: <1996Apr16.185847.1617@kurt.in-berlin.de>
Sender: news@kurt.in-berlin.de
References: <4khac0$8s9@n1mep.mainstream.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:58:47 GMT
In <4khac0$8s9@n1mep.mainstream.net> peterson@media.mit.edu wrote:
> Where can I find a demo copy of OneVision, the one I got from peanuts seems
> to be damaged. peak does not seem to have one.
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/new/text/apps/commercial/OneVision.2.5.NIHS.b.tar.gz
!!!! 22 MB !!!!
Gerald
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From: lacourse (Dan LaCourse)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MIME attachments
Date: 16 Apr 1996 20:28:22 GMT
Organization: Netspace
Message-ID: <4l0vt6$o9r@news.midusa.net>
Matthew Reichman wrote:
>In <___4kqdu1$nqf@jaring.my_> Michael Olan wrote:
>> Nextmail attachments are great, but I'm sure that sooner or later I'll
have
>> to either send or receive a MIME version mail attachments. How can this be
>> done on a NS box that connects to the net via an ISP?
>
>If you're using Mail.app 3.3 (which a friend of mine found out ran great on
>NS3.2, I don't know how???) then it is all quite simply done in the same
way.
>OT I'm not sure what you'd do if you didn't have Mail 3.3 except get one of
>the command line mail utilities.
I'm running NS3.2 on a NeXTStation & have been able to read MIME attachments
using Mynah.app (from the archives) and MailService (/NextApps/MailService; I
think this came with NS3.2).
Download a MIME message with PopOver. It opens automatically in Mail.app.
(click Utilities-->Get New Mail to speed the process). Select the whole
message and click Services-->Mail-->Send As A Message , to mail it to
yourself. Start up Mynah.app. Voila, the message should appear with the
MIME attachment appearing just like a NeXTMail attachment.
Cheers,
Dan
From: stephen@rhodes.demon.co.uk (Stephen Rhodes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Upgrade to 3.3 clobbered sendmail -- HELP!!
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 21:34:19 GMT
Message-ID: <829690459.17442@rhodes.demon.co.uk>
References: <4kunau$ofn@dropit.pgh.net>
me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote:
> I just upgraded to 3.3, including Patch1 with Fix #2 (remove all
> comments from etc/hosts), from 3.2. Formerly, if my Inet connection
> was down, outgoing mail would queue in /usr/spool/mqueue. Now, it
> bounces. Something has changed but I don't know what. I recall
> seeing notes about this months ago but I didn't save them. Now I
> have to start the thread all over again. Please help if you have any
> idea what has happened and how to fix it.
>
> Outgong mail now bounces with the following message:
>
> 421 site-name (ddn)... Deferred: No such file or directory
> 554 user@site-name... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from
> name server): No such file or directory
>
> It is pretty clear that something got changed on me. I need to
> change it back!
> -----
> Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883
> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
The only fix I've found to work is to restore the old lookupd behaviour with
the -R option i.e change /etc/rc entry to
if [ -f /usr/etc/nibindd -a -f /usr/etc/lookupd ]; then
fbshow -B -I "Starting naming services" -z 41
/usr/etc/lookupd -R && (echo -n ' lookupd') >/dev/console
fi
regards
Stephen
ever. Do I need to configure
OmniPDF for printing on a HP LJ4 PostScript printer?
Thanks,
zhao
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Overwite mode in Edit.app
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 10:33:47 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.960416103228.17942H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4kvlog$tp@turbocat.snafu.de>
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To: David Wetzel <dave@turbocat.snafu.de>
In-Reply-To: <4kvlog$tp@turbocat.snafu.de>
On 16 Apr 1996, David Wetzel wrote:
> How can you switch Edit's behaviour from insert to overwrite mode?
I don't think I have ever heard of any way... short of highlighting (with
the mouse) the area you want to over-write, but I doubt that is what you
are after.
TjL
--
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USENET: Please CC this address on replies to my posts, things vanish fast.
NeXT Info available via email! Send message with SUBJECT 'send info'
>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
dering if anyone has this
software and wants to sell it? I have an Intel box.
Thanks!
------------------------------------------
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mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu
Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University
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conduct electronic communication under the conditions of freedom established for the
domain of print through centuries of struggle, or whether that great achievement will
become lost in a confusion of new technologies.
--Ithiel de Sola Pool
ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: where does /usr/bin/latex get installed from?
Date: 16 Apr 1996 23:12:01 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <4l19g1$11ko@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
References: <4kv9vk$dev@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <4kv9vk$dev@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
On 04/15/96, Karl Pfleger wrote:
>A friend of mine just installed NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.3 on a new Pentium but the
>latex binary executable does not seem to be present so when he tries to tex
>things from TeXview he gets a command not found error. On two other NEXTSTEP
>for Intel systems, one 3.2 and one 3.3, latex is /usr/bin/latex . tex and
>slitex are also in /usr/bin on these systems but not present on the new
>system.
>
>I can't figure out where these install from. It doesn't appear to be any .pkg
>file from NextLibrary/Receipts that I could find. NeXTTeX.pkg is present in
>Receipts, but doing a list using the Installer revealed that /usr/bin/latex
>isn't included in that package, nor in any other I could find.
>
>Where does /usr/bin/latex come from? Why might it be absent after a
>presumably normal (done by someone else) install of NEXTSTEP 3.3 / Intel?
>Most importantly, what's the easiest way to install all the missing files?
>(Of course, just copying the 3 files over to /usr/bin/ doesn't work as there
>seem to be other file missing as well.) Is there some sort of Make that needs
>to be done?
>
>-Karl
NeXTTeX.pkg will not be automatically installed. To get tex/latex installed,
you should manually install NeXTTeX.pkg from your CDROM. The Installer.app will
create those necessary links for you including tex/latex. However, since you
have NeXTTeX.pkg shown in NextLibrary/Receipts but no /usr/bin/latex, I would
suggest you to reinstall NeXTTeX.pkg.
tex/latex/slitex are just links from /usr/bin/virtex. This is a standard way to
get new formatter installed. For instance, say you want to have latex2e in your
system, after you dump the image into latex2e.fmt, you should create a latex2e
link from /usr/bin/virtex as
ln /usr/bin/virtex /usr/bin/latex2e
Then later you can use latex2e to typeset those latex2e related documents.
--
----------------
Yuwen Cheng
University of Arizona, Math
yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SLIP Software.
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:56:44 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960419124927.4088K-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <3176844B.28BC@students.wisc.edu>
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To: "Andrew M. Priasmoro" <ampriasm@students.wisc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <3176844B.28BC@students.wisc.edu>
On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, Andrew M. Priasmoro wrote:
> I wonder if anyone knows if any SLIP software that is easy to install
> has graphical user interface, and also work for Dynamic IP.
slip software (NOTE: no longer supported):
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Unix/communication/TransSys-PNI.1.13.NI.b.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Unix/communication/TransSys-PNI.1.13.README
For DynamicIP information: (NOTE: It ain't easy, that's for sure)
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/comm/PNI-DynamicIP.rtfd.compressed
GUI:
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Communication/apps/SLIPCommander.3.21.NI.b.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Communication/apps/SLIPCommander.3.21.README
NOW, having said that, don't bother, if you can use PPP. There's a free,
supported version of PPP for NeXTStep available at:
http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP
It handles DynamicIP without a hitch, and has a great listserv group too.
SLIP for NS seems dead, PPP for NS is quite alive and being used daily by
many.
TjL
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From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why Does Preview.app offer so poor resolution?
Date: 19 Apr 1996 22:01:34 GMT
Organization: Seicom GmbH, Reutlingen, Germany, Europe
Message-ID: <4l92fu$iv4@gate.seicom.net>
References: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <DpyL4A.14F@tigadmin.ml.com>
<4l6a4d$phb@newshost.lanl.gov>
Keywords: preview tex postscript hack
In <4l6a4d$phb@newshost.lanl.gov> Mark Doyle wrote:
> cwhatley@ml.com (Chris Whatley - NeXT) wrote:
>
> > Do that to any bitmap without
> > antialiasing it and you usually get poor results.
>
> > If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
>
> How about adding an antialiasing option then? Preview ainn't broke, but
this
> would be a nice feature. (You don't always have control over the TeX source
> for the PostScript that you receive.)
>
DPS has antialiasing built in, but only for the Level 2 ('dict') form of
imagemask. For a better view in Preview.app put this after the %%EndComments
line in the dvips generated PS file:
% smearing imagemask display hack for TeX fonts by FMS (frank@this.net)
% usually it works for me, it may work for you too but I promise nothing.
statusdict /product get (NeXT Display PostScript System) eq {
/smear_imagemask /imagemask load def
/imagemask {dup type /dicttype ne { dup 0 get /ch-image eq {gsave 5 copy [1 0
0 1 1 0] concat smear_imagemask 5 copy [1 0 0 1 0 1] concat smear_imagemask 5
copy [1 0 0 1 0 -2] concat smear_imagemask 5 copy [1 0 0 1 -2 0] concat
smear_imagemask 5 copy [1 0 0 1 1.9 1] concat smear_imagemask 5 copy [1 0 0 1
-1.9 0] concat smear_imagemask 5 copy [1 0 0 1 0 -2] concat smear_imagemask 5
copy [1 0 0 1 1.9 0] concat smear_imagemask grestore } if } if
smear_imagemask } bind def } if
You can play a bit with the smearing vectors ("[....]"). Above hack will only
affect TeX fonts, normal imagemask usage is not altered. The result is not
perfect but much more readable. Be advised that the printout quality on a
NeXT Laser is affected by this hack (will be much worse!) but not the
printout on another printer in general. Your mileage may vary.
--
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From: hhoff@cube.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [q] Internet software
Date: 19 Apr 1996 21:51:44 GMT
Organization: Cube Informationssysteme GmbH
Message-ID: <4l91tg$fj@cubenx.cube.de>
References: <jm040795-1904961231580001@macip211.apple.com>
Raven wrote:
> Where do I get internet software from?
Have you tried the Internet?
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS on a X11 Screen
Date: 19 Apr 1996 19:17:38 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4l8osi$3in@news.next.com>
References: <Dq2HMv.8nG@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
In article <Dq2HMv.8nG@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
(David Evans) writes:
> Don't believe so; NeXT's DPS uses Mach message ports for its
communication,
> as I recall, which somewhat hoses you on other machines.
Not to mention the NeXT DPS extensions that permit the Window Server to be
a window server instead of another way to draw on a pixmap.
Mike Paquette
--
I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me.
"The Internet is an elite organization. Most of the people in the
world have never even made a phone call." -- Noam Chomsky
From: Bobbernickle (Randy Vose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail Trouble - need help!
Date: 19 Apr 1996 14:46:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <4l890q$5m5@reader2.ix.netcom.com>
References: <4l6g6d$p33@hasle.sn.no>
In <4l6g6d$p33@hasle.sn.no> Ole Chr. Magneshaugen wrote:
[message about PopOver running messages together]
Which version of PopOver are you using?
Version 1.5 (v69) is the latest build which includes a bug fix for the
problem you described. I was having the same problem on my turbo
colorstation and reported it to Jason Fosback (the author). He identified it
as a bug in PopOver 1.4, corrected it and put a new one out on peak.org.
Go get that version and your problems should go away...
Hope that helps!
---
Randy V.
rvose@ix.netcom.com
From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Many EPS to 1 PS -- how?
Date: 20 Apr 1996 08:23:13 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <4la6th$c6@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
References: <4l8j57$sni@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Dinu Gherman (gherman@NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE) wrote:
> Does anybody have a tool for linking a couple of EPS files into
> one PS file?
Try PageChain off www.running-start.com. It comes with a one-user free
license if I remember correctly, and is exactly the app you describe (plus
other kinds of docs). I only need it three times per year, but then I need
it badly.
--
G.J. van Oldenborgh
Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics, Leiden University
email: gj@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl
web: http://www-lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anybody got Lighthouse Educational C
From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay)
Date: 20 Apr 96 10:37:51 GMT
Message-ID: <17496110.38271.21953@kcbbs.gen.nz>
References: <4l3sk2$mvb@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
> >Did anyone who ordered Lighthouse Educational CD received it yet?
> >I think I ordered one over a month, I haven't received it yet.
>
> I ordered one a little while ago, and it showed up in about a week. I had
> no problems other than that the license strings which came with the
> software were set to expire in a few months. Lighthouse gave me new
> strings immediately when I asked, so I have no complaints whatsoever.
Yes mine took over a month to get to me in New Zealand which I wasn't
aware of (the "official" delay). I suppose it's quite a deal so
complaining is going to be a bit raw, but you'd think that as one comes
in one could go out? :-)
Apart from that the CD is *EXCELLENT* value - quite wonderful.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A N D R E W P. L I N D E S A Y
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9 St. Benedicts Street,Newton,Auckland,New Zealand.
Fx 3581797. eMail apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (NeXTmail/MIME OK)
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS on a X11 Screen
Date: 20 Apr 1996 12:09:12 GMT
Organization: Seicom GmbH, Reutlingen, Germany, Europe
Message-ID: <4lak58$pmr@gate.seicom.net>
References: <31760CAB.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> <Dq2HMv.8nG@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
In <Dq2HMv.8nG@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote:
> In article <31760CAB.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>,
> Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> wrote:
> >Many X11 Servers are available for Nextstep (eg.coXist). But what's about
the other
> >direction ?
> >
> >Are there any possibilities to display NeXT Windows on a X11 System ?
> >
> >Today most of the X11 Server have DisplayPS options like the one from SGI.
> >Is there a NS-Display Server for SGI machines that won't run NeXTStep or
openstep ?
> >
> Don't believe so; NeXT's DPS uses Mach message ports for its
communication,
> as I recall, which somewhat hoses you on other machines.
>
How about to grab the bitmap contents of a Next window and display it in a X
window on a remote client. There you could catch mouse and keyboard events
and fake these events on the Next side. If this scheme works with invisible
windows (or on windows high above the visible area - like a virtual screen
manager does) one could actually work with NeXTSTEP apps on a remote X
terminal without disturbing the use of the NeXT workstation.
Of course this 'solution' is not super fast or network friendly (window
updates transfers a full bitmap through the network) but I believe it could
work.
(Well the idea is crazy enough I like it... maybe I'll try it this weekend
8-))
--
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From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need information about X for NeXTSTEP.
Date: 20 Apr 1996 12:13:18 GMT
Organization: Seicom GmbH, Reutlingen, Germany, Europe
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4lakcu$pmr@gate.seicom.net>
References: <4l441o$e54@pollux.usc.edu>
In <4l441o$e54@pollux.usc.edu> Sungdo Moon wrote:
> Hi, all.
>
> I'm using the NeXTSTEP 3.3 for Intel in my pentium computer.
> And I would like to use X-Windows with it.
> I need information about X for NeXT which is run on Pentium.
> (what is available?, which one is good?, etc)
> I prefer publically available implementations or patches of X.
> Please help me.
On peanuts is a new shareware X11 available. I have not tried it yet.
ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de:/pub/comp/platforms/next/2/Xnext-*
The readme:
Welcome to the official Xnext distribution!
This is the (beta) release of Xnext, an X server for all NEXTSTEP
platforms. An X screen that's realised as a window in the common
NEXTSTEP UI makes it possible for you to start X11R6 applications
on your system (or to display X apps that are running on a remote
system).
Xnext consists of the following NEXTSTEP packages:
Xnext-dist.pkg X11R6 executables and manual pages.
Xnext-fonts.pkg X11R6 fonts and bitmap data.
Xnext-server.pkg Xnext server executable.
Xnext-libs.pkg Xnext development kit.
Xnext-man-include.pkg X11R6 manual pages and header files.
You need the Xnext-fonts.pkg and the Xnext-server.pkg to success-
fully run Xnext. The Xnext-dist.pkg contains additional xapps.
If you like to compile your own xapps, you need the Xnext-libs.pkg
and the Xnext-man-include.pkg which contain the "Xnext development
kit".
THIS IS A BETA RELEASE when it comes to the server and part of the
libraries. So if you discover a bug, please inform the author (see
below for eMail/snailmail address).
Xnext is shareware -- if you want to use the software, you have to
buy it. The registration fee is US$20 (or 30DM, if you like).
Please contact me for details or fill out the registration form.
Stefan Leuker
Grefrather Strasse 4
41334 Nettetal
GERMANY
eMail: leuker@POOL.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
Copyright (c) 1995, 1996 by Stefan Leuker
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NeXTSTEP, Linux & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C
ga ga"
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniPDF printed garbage
Date: 20 Apr 1996 13:36:41 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <4lap99$dv2@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <yeg7mvho8ig.fsf@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> <4l29us$bdq@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4l2ua8$ju7@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Gregor Hoffleit (flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote:
: Same problem here, with PDFView, PDFViewer and - as far as I remember
: - also with OmniPDF. Only that we're running a TI microLaser. Hmm,
: perhaps the PS produced by NEXTSTEP has some severe problems ??? ;-(
Correction: PDFView did work fine indeed! Only that it didn't use my
Paper Layout preference wich is A4 but instead Letter. My printer
doesn't like this ("Load letter"), and I haven't yet figured out how
to tell him to ignore the encoded document paper size.
Gregor
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From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Many EPS to 1 PS -- how?
Date: 20 Apr 1996 14:35:15 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <4lasn3$ldf@news.iastate.edu>
References: <4l8j57$sni@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <4la6th$c6@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
Geert Jan van Oldenborgh wrote:
> Dinu Gherman (gherman@NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE) wrote:
> > Does anybody have a tool for linking a couple of EPS files into
> > one PS file?
> Try PageChain off www.running-start.com. It comes with a one-user free
> license if I remember correctly, and is exactly the app you describe
(plus
> other kinds of docs). I only need it three times per year, but then I
need
> it badly.
>
I had not realized PageChain was now available free. It's a really fine
application by Ralph Zazula that, in my experience, works beautifully.
As the previous poster says, you don't need it all that often, but when
you do it's quite valuable. Unfortunately, I could never justify the cost
of something I might use once per year, and instead use a little C
program called "collate" that does the same thing, but the results
generally do not seem to work for FAXing. Under the circumstances I
strongly recommend getting PageChain (which the web page shows comes quad
fat). Thanks Ralph!
--
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Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779
Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
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http://uces.ameslab.gov/
From: jch@old-cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniPDF printed garbage
Date: 20 Apr 1996 14:41:54 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Message-ID: <4lat3i$p7g@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
References: <yeg7mvho8ig.fsf@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> <4l29us$bdq@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4l2ua8$ju7@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <960417192638.189AAFcN.magnus@koa>
In article <960417192638.189AAFcN.magnus@koa>,
Magnus Nordborg <magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
> The files in question (from the US IRS!) were also
>available in PostScript format directly, which printed neither from a Mac,
>nor from a NeXT. This was after removing the friendly ^D that started the
>files...
While I agree that the problem lies in the Windows PostScript generation,
I would like to mention that the IRS Postscript files printed fine for me
under NeXTstep 3.2 (black on an NLP) from Previewer. This was a little
bit surprising (and this may be where you gave up), because they wouldn't
actually _view_ properly in Previewer -- all the pages were superimposed.
But, when I printed, they came out page-by-page -- just in the wrong order.
My hunch is that this means that the Document Structuring Conventions were
not adhered to properly.
John
From: eidolon@sn.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail Trouble - need help!
Date: 20 Apr 1996 16:06:54 GMT
Organization: SN Internett
Message-ID: <4lb22u$cg4@hasle.sn.no>
References: <4l6g6d$p33@hasle.sn.no> <4l890q$5m5@reader2.ix.netcom.com>
Thanx Randy, sounds like the 1.5 version of PopOver will solve it...I tried
to locate it on peak but without success...I also tried the Peanuts, nothing
but a 1.4 version. Do you have an exact adress to this file?
-OleChr
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail Trouble - need help!
Date: 20 Apr 1996 18:42:28 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-23.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4lbb6k$hq4@usc.edu>
References: <4l6g6d$p33@hasle.sn.no> <4l890q$5m5@reader2.ix.netcom.com>
<4lb22u$cg4@hasle.sn.no>
In <4lb22u$cg4@hasle.sn.no> eidolon@sn.no wrote:
> Thanx Randy, sounds like the 1.5 version of PopOver will solve it...I tried
> to locate it on peak but without success...I also tried the Peanuts,
nothing
> but a 1.4 version. Do you have an exact adress to this file?
Right now version 1.5 is being beta tested. So when that's done it'll go onto
the sites.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
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From: far@ix.netcom.net(Felipe A. Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniPDF printed garbage
Date: 17 Apr 1996 22:04:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <4l3pt6$nn7@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
References: <4l29us$bdq@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de>
In article <4l29us$bdq@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang
Roeckelein) writes:
>In article <yeg7mvho8ig.fsf@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z.
>Zhao) writes:
>> I am using OmniPDF to view WODevGuidePDF files, which is OK
>> However, it cannot print what I see on the screen, but some
>> funny codes only. And the printer would run forever, not like
>> the viewer says: 22 pages or whatever. Do I need to configure
>> OmniPDF for printing on a HP LJ4 PostScript printer?
>
>I have a similar problem. However, PDFViewer also produces the same
>problems. It seems that in PDF files there are certain PS constructs with
>which the HP PS engine has severe problems...
>
>Very annoying....
> Wolfgang
Guess what guys, I've experienced the exact same problem printing IRS
forms using my HP 5mp (configured as LJ4) from OmniPDF and PDFViewer.
PDFView from G nther F erthaller at OneVision prints the problem PDF
files correctly in all of the cases I tried. You can pick it up at
peanuts.
I sent a note to Omni and they said they were investigating.
All three of these are fine apps. I particularly like the speed and UI
of OmniPDF. While PDFView has not failed me yet when it comes time to
print. My thanks to all concerned.
--
Felipe A. Rodriguez # ...it cannot be called ingenuity to
Agoura Hills, CA # kill one's fellow citizens, to betray
# friends, to be without faith, without
far@ix.netcom.com # mercy, without religion; by these means
(NeXTmail preferred) # one can acquire power but not glory.
(MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Does a NEXTSTEP aware version of EMACS exist?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Date: 20 Apr 1996 18:25:38 GMT
Organization: computerActive Inc
Message-ID: <4lba72$igc@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
References: <4l66mc$38p@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <3177EDF7.41C6@fa.disney.com>
Tal Lancaster (tlan@fa.disney.com) wrote:
: > Would anybody please tell me where may I find a NEXTSTEP aware
: > version of EMACS for my NEXTSTEP v3.2 (INTEL)? I got used to using a version
: Regular emacs can be found on your NeXT-CD. Actually, I prefer using
Not in NS 3.2. Emacs was part of the Developer Tools package, and it was
only the terminal version.
Emacs for NeXTSTEP 4.1 can be found on the archives, which is an
excellent port of Emacs 19.28 to the NeXTSTEP window system.
--Chris
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From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS on a X11 Screen
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 11:34:35 +0200
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitt Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <31760CAB.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Many X11 Servers are available for Nextstep (eg.coXist). But what's about the other
direction ?
Are there any possibilities to display NeXT Windows on a X11 System ?
Today most of the X11 Server have DisplayPS options like the one from SGI.
Is there a NS-Display Server for SGI machines that won't run NeXTStep or openstep ?
stef
___________________________________________________________________________
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| ... openstep, the biggest step |
| E-Mail : ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention |
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| Project : working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\|
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\___________________________________________________________________________/
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A more sophisticated use of TeXView ?
Date: 18 Apr 1996 13:03:53 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4l5ejp$k02@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <x7spe2hdpk.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
Gerald Wildgruber (gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de) wrote:
: Hello,
: is there a way to launch TeXView from the command line other than via the
: open command as in 'open foo.dvi' ?
Have you tried changing the latex command to "latex -V" (or "-v") ?
This opens an IPC connection between latex and TeXview, and submits
every completed page instantly to TeXview. The visible effect is a
constant update of the displayed DVI file.
Gregor
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: cwhatley@ml.com (Chris Whatley - NeXT)
Subject: Re: Why Does Preview.app offer so poor resolution?
Message-ID: <DpyL4A.14F@tigadmin.ml.com>
Sender: usenet@tigadmin.ml.com (News Account)
Organization: ml.com
References: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 14:19:21 GMT
> Whenever I try to view a *.ps file (say, created from dvips), the
resolution
> offered by Preview is attrocious.
First, you are viewing a file that was generated for a 300dpi printer on a
100 dpi screen. This is not usually a problem when you are using your
typical PostScript font which is defined in terms of a resolution
independent outline. However, DVIPS is generating a file containing font
bitmaps that were rastered for a 300dpi device so, the PS server has to
scale them by 1/3 for the screen. Do that to any bitmap without
antialiasing it and you usually get poor results.
Try running dvips and setting the target resolution to 100dpi (dvips -D
100). You will see that the fonts look much better.
> I see that the app is dated 1990 too.....
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Chris Whatley
Object Expert, NeXT Software Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: NS on a X11 Screen
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <Dq2HMv.8nG@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 16:54:31 GMT
References: <31760CAB.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <31760CAB.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>,
Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> wrote:
>Many X11 Servers are available for Nextstep (eg.coXist). But what's about the other
>direction ?
>
>Are there any possibilities to display NeXT Windows on a X11 System ?
>
>Today most of the X11 Server have DisplayPS options like the one from SGI.
>Is there a NS-Display Server for SGI machines that won't run NeXTStep or openstep ?
>
Don't believe so; NeXT's DPS uses Mach message ports for its communication,
as I recall, which somewhat hoses you on other machines.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: doyle@mmm.lanl.gov (Mark Doyle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why Does Preview.app offer so poor resolution?
Date: 18 Apr 1996 20:53:33 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Message-ID: <4l6a4d$phb@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <DpyL4A.14F@tigadmin.ml.com>
cwhatley@ml.com (Chris Whatley - NeXT) wrote:
> Do that to any bitmap without
> antialiasing it and you usually get poor results.
> If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
How about adding an antialiasing option then? Preview ainn't broke, but this
would be a nice feature. (You don't always have control over the TeX source
for the PostScript that you receive.)
Cheers,
Mark
From: ocm@sn.no (Ole Chr. Magneshaugen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mail Trouble - need help!
Date: 18 Apr 1996 22:37:01 GMT
Organization: SN Internett
Message-ID: <4l6g6d$p33@hasle.sn.no>
Gentleman, I need your help...My knowledge of the NextStep is limited, so you
must excuse my naive writings, I do hope though I can supply you with
suffiecient amount of sensible information, in order to get some good
advice....
I run NS3.3, (w/older version of Sendmail, 8.7.1 I think...) I use PPP and
PopOver to dialup my ISP and retrieve my mail. Recently, without having done
any modifications to my setup, my mail is coming in in strange ways.
The mail is retrieved succesfully but, when starting Mail app to read, the
messages all show up one after eachother in the message body of one single
message...with header information from a random (I think.) message in the
received batch.
Sometimes even, the new mail is not presented at all, but Mail act as if it
read new mail...
Really, this is pretty much all can say...I do not have full knowledge of
what part of the software does exactly what in the process of retrieving,
sorting and presenting, obviously this makes it difficult to start
debugging...hope you can give some hints as to what might be going on and
what can be done to fix it.
I have tried to send mail from account locally on my system, seem to be no
trouble there...
Hope to hear from you,
Ole Chr. Magneshaugen
Norway
From: David Green <david@legion.apana.org.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Many EPS to 1 PS -- how?
Date: 21 Apr 1996 04:29:50 GMT
Organization: Australian Public Access Network Association
Message-ID: <4lcdju$pgm@hock.apana.org.au>
References: <4l8j57$sni@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In-Reply-To: <4l8j57$sni@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Organisation: Sargood Manor
On 04/20/96, in message [<4l8j57$sni@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>], Dinu
Gherman reckoned that:
>Does anybody have a tool for linking a couple of EPS files into
>one PS file?
Check out Collagist Pro from Lighthouse Designs.
Good luck,
--
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Melbourne, Australia| Fax: +61 3 9827-5876 | (NeXTMail & MIME accepted)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Does a NEXTSTEP aware version of EMACS exist?
In-Reply-To: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca's message of 20 Apr 1996 18:25:38 GMT
Message-ID: <u41n346gjys.fsf@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4l66mc$38p@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <3177EDF7.41C6@fa.disney.com>
<4lba72$igc@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 06:38:35 GMT
Speaking of emacs, GNU's latest version 19.30 totally rocks! Don't
know if you can easily compile it quad-fat yet...
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS on a X11 Screen
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 02:59:24 -0500
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <3179EADC.446E@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <31760CAB.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> <Dq2HMv.8nG@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <4lak58$pmr@gate.seicom.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To: "Frank M. Siegert" <frank@this.net>
Frank M. Siegert wrote:
> How about to grab the bitmap contents of a Next window and display it in a X
> window on a remote client. There you could catch mouse and keyboard events
> and fake these events on the Next side. If this scheme works with invisible
> windows (or on windows high above the visible area - like a virtual screen
> manager does) one could actually work with NeXTSTEP apps on a remote X
> terminal without disturbing the use of the NeXT workstation.
>
> Of course this 'solution' is not super fast or network friendly (window
> updates transfers a full bitmap through the network) but I believe it could
> work.
>
> (Well the idea is crazy enough I like it... maybe I'll try it this weekend
If you or anyone else get an app like this to work- I would die for this
functionality, and I think NeXT should have built in X-Windows support
from the start. Standards ARE important! I've wanted to control
NEXTSTEP from my Power Mac for a long time, and this would allow me to
do so...Please inform us of any progress!
Thanks!
------------------------------------------
Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie
mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu
Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University
PEACE, LOVE, UNITY, RESPECT (PLUR)
The onus is on us to determine whether free societies in the
twenty-first century will
conduct electronic communication under the conditions of freedom
established for the
domain of print through centuries of struggle, or whether that great
achievement will
become lost in a confusion of new technologies.
--Ithiel de Sola Pool
ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need "simple-to-setup" X-windows package for Intel NS 3.3
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 03:13:52 -0500
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <3179EE40.294C@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.92.960415144720.15455A-100000@elaine43.Stanford.EDU> <4l1sqf$1ib@usenet.rpi.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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To: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Garance A Drosehn wrote:
>
> Robert Gibson Jacobs <rjacobs@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
> > I am running NeXTStep version 3.3 on a Pentium 100 and am looking
> > for a no-pain X-windows package that is very easy to install and
> > use. I have a fair background in compiling packages, but nothing
> > too extensive.
> >
> > I've looked at the source for mouseX, etc. but they all seem to
> > require a fairly painful installation process. Is there a
> > pre-compiled binary or another alternative that is free?
>
> The "that is free" requirement cuts down the choices a bit.
> coXist, which is commercial, seems pretty painless to install
> these days (assuming you have a CD-ROM drive!).
Also see Xnext
http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~leuker/Xnext/
It's a FREE X-Windows package...
------------------------------------------
Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie
mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu
Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University
PEACE, LOVE, UNITY, RESPECT (PLUR)
The onus is on us to determine whether free societies in the
twenty-first century will
conduct electronic communication under the conditions of freedom
established for the
domain of print through centuries of struggle, or whether that great
achievement will
become lost in a confusion of new technologies.
--Ithiel de Sola Pool
ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Canon NEXTSTEP Developer Support-Japan
Date: 21 Apr 1996 13:26:28 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4ldd24$e3f@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <316D875B.6E2C@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <316D875B.6E2C@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
On 04/12/96, "Eric A. Dubiel" wrote:
> Has anyone seen the Canon NEXTSTEP Developer Support web pages in Japan?
>
> http://www.cnds.canon.co.jp/Japanese_EUC/WelcomeJ.html
>
> I can't understand the attitude of American Canon VS. Japanese
> Canon. I wish the two would truly work together and also fully
> translate the web pages to English and provide object.station driver
> downloads/updates!
>
Just as the pages was loading, I thought to myself, I wonder if this is
Toru-san's work...
... and sure enough:
WWW Server Maintained by Toru Sato
I suspect that Toru-san is putting in bit more effort on this than his
employers pay for. He's an excellent chap, and totally dedicated. If Canon
ATO had had him in charge, I'm sure the Oregon shop would still be open, and
would be making big profits.
If you're listening, Toru, it was a pleasure to meet you (heavens, 18 months
ago now), and I hope maybe I will again one day. Maybe you could come over
for the NeXT Expo Europe?! ;-)
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan S. MacKinnon, Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail Trouble - need help!
Date: 21 Apr 1996 11:51:23 GMT
Organization: Channel 1 Communications
Message-ID: <4ld7fr$eu0@news1.channel1.com>
References: <4l6g6d$p33@hasle.sn.no> <4l7t4m$397@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
In <4l7t4m$397@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote:
> Ole Chr. Magneshaugen (ocm@sn.no) wrote:
>
> > The mail is retrieved succesfully but, when starting Mail app to read,
the
> > messages all show up one after eachother in the message body of one
single
> > message...with header information from a random (I think.) message in the
> > received batch.
>
> This sounds very weird, and I have never encountered or heard of any
> behavior like that. The only advise I can give is to debug your setup
> in such a way that allows toy to determine which software component is
> at fault. I'd suggest:
>
I've had it happen only once.
The solution was to manually remove the first mail message that
doesn't match it's subject in NeXT Mail. I then deleted
~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/table_of_contents. (I didn't know exactly
what I was doing here! I assumed that the TOC would be rebuilt --
and I was right, but be careful! :)
My only guess of what went wrong was that the mail message I removed
had some header text in the body that made it look like the start of another
message... ?
ASM
--
Allan MacKinnon
allanmac@blueprint.com Boston, MA
NeXT / MIME Mail Welcome (617) 424-0615
From: asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Graphics program.
Date: 21 Apr 1996 18:47:39 GMT
Organization: International Turnkey Systems
Message-ID: <4ldvsb$p0b@info.itsq8.com>
I use WetPaint 1.7. I like it very much. Lately, I've played with
PhotoShop under Windogz. I must say the features in PhotoShop
are a lot better compared to WetPaint.
Any graphics program out there compares to PhotoShop?
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Graphics program.
Date: 21 Apr 1996 21:39:42 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-38.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4le9uu$757@usc.edu>
References: <4ldvsb$p0b@info.itsq8.com>
In <4ldvsb$p0b@info.itsq8.com> Ahmad Al-rasheedan wrote:
> I use WetPaint 1.7. I like it very much. Lately, I've played with
> PhotoShop under Windogz. I must say the features in PhotoShop
> are a lot better compared to WetPaint.
>
> Any graphics program out there compares to PhotoShop?
TIFFany II is as good as they get on any platform!
--
Be well,
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Subject: Re: Need "simple-to-setup" X-windows package for Intel NS 3.3
Message-ID: <1996Apr21.161006.78698@cc.usu.edu>
From: hcole@spanky.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Howard R. Cole)
Date: 21 Apr 96 16:10:06 MDT
References: <3179EE40.294C@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Distribution: world
In article <3179EE40.294C@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> writes:
> Also see Xnext
> http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~leuker/Xnext/
> It's a FREE X-Windows package...
The original request was for an X-windows package which runs
on Intel. The Development Progress page for Xnext indicate
that there is support for HPPA/NeXT/Sparc, and that Intel
is still in progress.
- HRC -
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why Does Preview.app offer so poor resolution?
Date: 22 Apr 1996 02:26:34 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4leqoq$dl9@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <4ki21v$mdn@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <DpyL4A.14F@tigadmin.ml.com> <4l92fu$iv4@gate.seicom.net>
Some kind soul [Frank M. Siegert] wrote:
For a better view in Preview.app put this after the %%EndComments
line in the dvips generated PS file:
% smearing imagemask display hack for TeX fonts by FMS (frank@this.net)
% usually it works for me, it may work for you too but I promise nothing.
statusdict /product get (NeXT Display PostScript System) eq {
/smear_imagemask /imagemask load def
/imagemask {dup type /dicttype ne { dup 0 get /ch-image eq {gsave 5 copy [1 0
0 1 1 0] concat smear_imagemask 5 copy [1 0 0 1 0 1] concat smear_imagemask 5
copy [1 0 0 1 0 -2] concat smear_imagemask 5 copy [1 0 0 1 -2 0] concat
smear_imagemask 5 copy [1 0 0 1 1.9 1] concat smear_imagemask 5 copy [1 0 0 1
-1.9 0] concat smear_imagemask 5 copy [1 0 0 1 0 -2] concat smear_imagemask 5
copy [1 0 0 1 1.9 0] concat smear_imagemask grestore } if } if
smear_imagemask } bind def } if
Well, I tried this and can vouch that it makes a *world* of difference!
It is the zero effort near-solution for me.
Thanks,
Lones
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From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 22 Apr 1996 04:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4lf14e$mva@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
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=============
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From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Anybody got Lighthouse Educational CD?
Date: 17 Apr 1996 18:03:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
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References: <4l3d5o$1mj@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
song@cs.purdue.edu (Chang-Hyeon Song) wrote:
>Hi.
>Did anyone who ordered Lighthouse Educational CD received it yet?
>I think I ordered one over a month, I haven't received it yet.
Mine took about 8 weeks or so.
--
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Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
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From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: how to change margins...
Date: 18 Apr 1996 12:35:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4l65h5$q59@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
This seems like such a simple thing but...
How can you change the default margins when printing? Some apps (Such
as Concurrence) allow margin settings, but when printing bitmaps from other
applications (preview and OmniImage come to mind) you always get problems
with the "mandatory" 1 inch margins. Are there alternate applications for
printing?
--
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From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniPDF printed garbage
Date: 22 Apr 1996 09:38:33 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Message-ID: <4lfk2p$1eqn@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <yeg7mvho8ig.fsf@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> <4l29us$bdq@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4l2ua8$ju7@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <4lap99$dv2@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Gregor Hoffleit (flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote:
> Correction: PDFView did work fine indeed! Only that it didn't use my
> Paper Layout preference wich is A4 but instead Letter. My printer
> doesn't like this ("Load letter"), and I haven't yet figured out how
> to tell him to ignore the encoded document paper size.
You have an HP printer, right? Just click on "continue" (you have
to hold down one of these modifier keys which serve as "ALT"), and
the page comes out just fine.
Hope this helps,
Chris
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From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 96 18:17:44 +0100
Subject: NeXT Expo Europe
Cc: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
On 04/21/96, mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
> Maybe you could come over
> for the NeXT Expo Europe?! ;-)
Is there going to be one ?? - When ?? ;-)
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From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GIF89a animation viewers?
Date: 22 Apr 1996 16:43:56 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <4lgd0c$pvj@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Are there any viewers available for viewing GIG89a animations
on a NeXT? PD/Shareware preferred.
--
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OK)
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From: ktwu@alw.nih.gov (Kuo-Tsung Wu)
Subject: Re: Anybody got Lighthouse Educational CD?
Message-ID: <1996Apr22.173118.748@alw.nih.gov>
To: ktwu@alw.nih.gov
Sender: postman@alw.nih.gov (AMDS Postmaster)
Organization: NIDCD/ESDSB
References: <4l3d5o$1mj@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <4l3sk2$mvb@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 16:23:07 GMT
In article <4l3sk2$mvb@agate.berkeley.edu>,
pbrown@palms.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown) wrote:
>In article <4l3d5o$1mj@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>,
>Chang-Hyeon Song <song@cs.purdue.edu> wrote:
>>Did anyone who ordered Lighthouse Educational CD received it yet?
>>I think I ordered one over a month, I haven't received it yet.
>
>I ordered one a little while ago, and it showed up in about a week. I had
>no problems other than that the license strings which came with the
>software were set to expire in a few months. Lighthouse gave me new
>strings immediately when I asked, so I have no complaints whatsoever.
>
>You should probably try to track down the package.
>
>Paul
>
--
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From: joe@kelley.cc.vt.edu (Joe Kelley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Multiple monitors with one keyboard & mouse
Date: 22 Apr 1996 19:10:28 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <4lglj4$d7r@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
I would like to be able to control the mouse and keyboard of a remote NeXT from
the kybd and mouse of another NeXT. This would be useful where there are
multiple NeXT machines at the same location with one operator.
Sharing two monitors like the NeXTDimension card allows (where windows can be
moved between monitors and the mouse moves between the two) would be ideal -or-
simply having the keyboard and mouse of the 'master' machine control the window
of the 'slave' would be fine.
Thanks for any help or info.
Please respond to joe.kelley@vt.edu
Joe Kelley (540) 231-3245 (FAX -4110)
From: joe@kelley.cc.vt.edu (Joe Kelley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Multiple monitors with one keyboard & mouse
Date: 22 Apr 1996 19:12:10 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <4lglmb$d8i@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
I would like to be able to control the mouse and keyboard of a remote NeXT from
the kybd and mouse of another NeXT. This would be useful where there are
multiple NeXT machines at the same location with one operator.
Sharing two monitors like the NeXTDimension card allows (where windows can be
moved between monitors and the mouse moves between the two) would be ideal -or-
simply having the keyboard and mouse of the 'master' machine control the window
of the 'slave' would be fine.
Thanks for any help or info.
Please respond to joe.kelley@vt.edu
Joe Kelley (540) 231-3245 (FAX -4110)
From: joe@kelley.cc.vt.edu (Joe Kelley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Controlling multiple monitors with one kybd/mouse
Date: 22 Apr 1996 19:18:11 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
Message-ID: <4lgm1j$dhq@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
I would like to be able to control the mouse and keyboard of a remote NeXT from
the kybd and mouse of another NeXT. This would be useful where there are
multiple NeXT machines at the same location with one operator.
Sharing two monitors like the NeXTDimension card allows (where windows can be
moved between monitors and the mouse moves between the two) would be ideal -or-
simply having the keyboard and mouse of the 'master' machine control the window
of the 'slave' would be fine.
Thanks for any help or info.
Please respond to joe.kelley@vt.edu
Joe Kelley (540) 231-3245 (FAX -4110)
From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: color laser printer for nextstep
Date: 22 Apr 1996 19:51:22 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <4lgnvq$mvl@news.tamu.edu>
What would be a reasonably prized color laster system (~600 dpi) that could
be used on a intel workstation running Nextstep. What drivers would be
needed to run this, if any?
Thanks for any info...
HP
--
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Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant
Aerospace Engineering Department
Texas A&M University
http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub
schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
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-Jonathon Livingston Seagull
From: peterson@media.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PGP
Date: 22 Apr 1996 21:53:08 GMT
Organization: Mainstream Electronic Information Services
Message-ID: <4lgv44$kla@n1mep.mainstream.net>
I have the next PGP interface pgp.app, but where do I get the actual pgp to
install?
bill p.
peterson@media.mit.edu
From: "James R. Pooton" <james@digisys.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: LDAP server ?
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 16:46:15 -0600
Organization: DigiSys Incorporated
Message-ID: <317C0C37.6906@digisys.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
Has anyone compiled U. Mich's LDAP distribution under NS3.3 ?? (slapd, slarpd, etc..) I would love to hear
from you if you have!!
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<james@digisys.net>
DigiSys Incorporated
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: pavneet@cyantic.com (Pavneet Arora)
Subject: dvi to RTF needed please
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 14:09:55 GMT
Message-ID: <1996Apr22.140955.10526@cyantic.com>
Sorry if this has come up before. I am in urgent need of a dvi to RTF
converter. Does such a beast exist? If so, could someone point me to
where I can find it.
The reason for my need is that I have become comfortable doing all my
documentation using LaTeX (under NEXTSTEP), but our company's internal
online documentation utilizes NeXT's Digital Librarian application to
index the material --- this app can handle straight text, or RTF. So if
I want to continue using LaTeX I have to produce RTF :-(.
I'd also be grateful if responses could be cc'd to me via e-mail in,
addition to posting, as our site has an aggressive aging schedule on news
and I wouldn't want to miss the responses.
Many advTHANKSance.
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Cheers,
- pavneet
.................................................................
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: color laser printer for nextstep
In-Reply-To: schaub@tamu.edu's message of 22 Apr 1996 19:51:22 GMT
Message-ID: <u41n343zqm5.fsf@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4lgnvq$mvl@news.tamu.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 01:16:50 GMT
You have three options: Lexmark Optra C, HP Color LaserJet 5, and the
Tektronix Phaser 550. The Phaser is probably the best, followed by Lexmark
and then HP. However, I haven't carefully looked at these so check the
magazine reviews.
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SLIP Software.
Date: 23 Apr 1996 03:19:21 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4noio3.5vo.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <3176844B.28BC@students.wisc.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960419124927.4088K-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
On Fri, 19 Apr 1996 12:56:44 -0400, "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> SLIP for NS seems dead, PPP for NS is quite alive and being used daily by
> many.
That's funny, the free PPP was crashing almost daily for me. They were
crashes that froze the entire machine. I talked to one of the developers
and we agreed it was some kernal code that was error-prone and very hard to
fix. PNI SLIP, on the other hand, doesn't handle some things very well, and
I've heard of people having trouble with it on NS 3.3 but it has never
crashed an NS 3.2 machine I've tried it on.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Controlling multiple monitors with one kybd/mouse
In-Reply-To: joe@kelley.cc.vt.edu's message of 22 Apr 1996 19:18:11 GMT
Message-ID: <u41n343shqz.fsf@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4lgm1j$dhq@solaris.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 04:10:12 GMT
There is an excellent application that will do this and more called
"WatchMe" by OtherWise Software.
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
d it came out as garbage too. Any insight?
Robert
From: Jacob Nielsen <jacob@dannug.dk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MIME attachments
Date: 22 Apr 1996 19:51:48 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <4lgo0k$ao@jnext.dannug.dk>
References: <4kqdu1$nqf@jaring.my> <4ks9ki$mfm@usc.edu>
reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote:
> In <4kqdu1$nqf@jaring.my> Michael Olan wrote:
>> Nextmail attachments are great, but I'm sure that sooner or
>> later I'll have to either send or receive a MIME version mail
>> attachments. How can this be done on a NS box that connects to
>> the net via an ISP?
>
> If you're using Mail.app 3.3 (which a friend of mine found out ran
> great on NS3.2, I don't know how???) then it is all quite simply
> done in the same way. OT I'm not sure what you'd do if you didn't
> have Mail 3.3 except get one of the command line mail utilities.
Or buy Eloquent from Take 3 (eloquent_info@take3.com) which handles
NeXTMail, MIME and SunMail. It can also sort your incoming mail into
different mail folders, talk to POP (?) and IMAP mail servers etc.
Just a happy customer,
Jacob
--
Jacob Nielsen
Maintainer of NEXTSTEP Software Reviews http://www.dannug.dk/jacob
& My own home page :-) http://www.dannug.dk/~jacob
NeXTMail, MIMEMail and SUNMail jacob@dannug.dk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: guenther@onevision.de (Guenther Fuerthaller)
Subject: PDFView Home Page in WWW
Message-ID: <DqA1rr.1vA@onevision.de>
Sender: news@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:52:39 GMT
I gladly announce the Home Page of PDFView.
It is located at: http://www.bitart.com/PDFView
Many thanks to Gerd Knops.
This Home Page includes download
links for two ftp sites, one in the
US and one in Germany.
Note: The latest version of PDFView is 1.31.
Among other new features this version supports
full text search, selection, copy to pasteboard.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WebObjects not launching applications
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 10:41:54 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960423103339.24810A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hello,
I believe it's probably a very easy problem to solve, and I'm just too
silly to find my error:
I installed WebObjects 1.0 on NS3.3 Intel Box. I also installed the
apache httpd by NeXT and the CERN-HTTP. Using either of both daemons I
was not able to launch any examples demo from the WebObjects example
directory.
Paths are set correct, because a dummy cgi-script can access the
examples.
Usinge e.g.:
http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Examples/HelloWorld
gives me the following result in OmniWeb (yes I'm still using 1.0)
'application not responding'. I get the same result when I use any
argument to the WebObjects CGI/bin app.
Any suggestions?
Best regards,
Boerny.
--
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scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: color laser printer for nextstep
Date: 23 Apr 1996 10:02:47 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4li9s7$lbo@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <4lgnvq$mvl@news.tamu.edu> <u41n343zqm5.fsf@world.std.com>
In <u41n343zqm5.fsf@world.std.com> Robert La Ferla wrote:
> You have three options: Lexmark Optra C, HP Color LaserJet 5, and the
> Tektronix Phaser 550. The Phaser is probably the best, followed by Lexmark
> and then HP. However, I haven't carefully looked at these so check the
> magazine reviews.
I've used the Phaser (and earlier models), and it is a really excellent
printer; I don't have experience of the others. The price is about $6,000+.
Paul
--
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Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems
Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: psi@fortune.nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki)
Subject: Re: Japanese Font wanted
Message-ID: <DqBDqB.o0@fortune.nest.or.jp>
Sender: psi@fortune.nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki)
References: <4l2v5t$lcj@news.sns-felb.debis.de>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 12:08:35 GMT
In <4l2v5t$lcj@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Torsten Caesar wrote:
> Does anybody know, who provides a japanese postscript font which is ready
to
> install for Nextstep?
> I have not the japanese Nextstep version.
>
You had better buy NeXTSTEP-J, the Japanese version.
Because Japanese character is too many and difficult, Japanese
font is very expensive.
# Ex. Morisawa's PS-font for Machintosh is sold about 40000yen.
# NeXTSTEP-3.3J ( User ) which has two Morisawa's Japanese font
# is sold about 100000yen.
And I don't hear that we can use Japanese-font without NeXTSTEP-J.
But, I don't know how to buy NeXTSTEP-J on your country. sorry.
--
SHIROYAMA-Takayuki : Taisho Osaka, Japan.
Psi@fortune.nest.or.jp
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backups in OpenWrite and Parasheet
Date: 23 Apr 1996 13:59:11 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4linnf$gav@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <960418102118.207AAFgI.wayne@keizai2>
In-Reply-To: <960418102118.207AAFgI.wayne@keizai2>
On 04/18/96, joerd@mail.wsu.edu wrote:
> I use OpenWrite and Parasheet from Lighthouse Designs. Each keeps backup
> copies of its files in the form "file.open~". Does anybody know how to
> turn off this feature or to have the files automatically eliminated when
> the program quits or you close the file?
>
> I don't like the proliferating files on my hard disk drive and can't find a
> preferences command to turn it off.
>
Sorry, I don't know, however, at the risk of sounding patronising, I suspect
that the one time you suddenly wish you had a backup of a previous version of
a file will make up for all the frustration you will suffer with the file
"proliferation".
Best wishes,
mmalc.
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From: bcrwhims@uwaterloo.ca (Carsten Whimster)
Subject: Q: NeXT's button bar?
Message-ID: <DqBnpp.KLC@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: EDM/2
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 15:44:12 GMT
I am looking for information on the layout and functionality of NeXT's
button bar, and was wondering if anyone knows where I can find such
information. I am willing to purchase an older version of NS if the
button bar's functionality has remained the same since then, and
provided the price is low, since I just received a horrible tax return.
Any pointers will be appreciated. TIA.
[Note: followup to comp.sys.next.software]
Carsten Whimster -- carsten_whimster@iqpac.com
From: gladen@linus.niehs.nih.gov (Beth C. Gladen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: calendar programs
Date: 23 Apr 1996 17:49:57 GMT
Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
Message-ID: <4lj585$tba@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
We have black hardware but will soon be switching to white. I use
Cassandra as my calendar program. I suspect it does not work on white as
it is too old (the version I have, 1.5 v28, is dated January 1992). If
I'm wrong, please let me know. Otherwise, what calendar programs are
available?
Thanks for any info.
Beth Gladen, gladen@niehs.nih.gov
From: eidolon@sn.no (Ole Chr. Magneshaugen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mail Trouble - All PoppedOver!!
Date: 23 Apr 1996 19:15:59 GMT
Organization: SN Internett
Message-ID: <4lja9f$n3a@hasle.sn.no>
I recently requested help from people on this group, re. trouble with mail
reception.
There were people that had similiar trouble as myself, and they indicated
that PopOver 1.4 was causing it...My humble attempts at investigating my own
system points to PopOver as well.
From what I understand the 1.5 version is still in Beta testing. Does anyone
have any idea of when it will be readily available....
-olechr
From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: movie and animation and radio players
Date: 23 Apr 1996 22:48:37 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Message-ID: <4ljmo5$1omt@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
PC compatibility rears its ugly head again...
The issue of the moment is playing animations --specifically, of the *.mov
and *.avi variety. I scoured Peanuts and after bouncing around for way too
long, I concluded that I was SOL.
Thus, we have the question, "What do I want to handle movie playing on my
NEXTSTEP/Intel machine and, assuming such exists, where may I find it and how
deep into my wallet will it dig?"
Along these lines, I have an option with CRAYON (http://crayon.net) to
choose, for example, the NPR Newcast. Clicking this in OmniWeb 2.0.1 pops up
an edit window with the line
pnm://www.npr.org/radocs/12news.ra
which, I assume, means I nead a radio player. Does such a monster exist for
NEXTSTEP?
Finally, are there any other essential applications in this internet-based
multimedia arena of which I should be aware?
Thanks much,
Mark.
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From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Xnext Color
Date: 23 Apr 1996 23:37:53 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <4ljpkh$b0@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
I just finished installing the Xnext packages and I am only getting a
black and white visual. So, how does one get it to display in color on
a NeXTStation Color 25MHz. Thanks.
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From: hal@sims.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: calendar programs
Date: 23 Apr 1996 23:57:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
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References: <4lj585$tba@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
In article <4lj585$tba@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> gladen@linus.niehs.nih.gov (Beth
C. Gladen) writes:
> We have black hardware but will soon be switching to white. I use
> Cassandra as my calendar program. I suspect it does not work on white as
> it is too old (the version I have, 1.5 v28, is dated January 1992). If
> I'm wrong, please let me know. Otherwise, what calendar programs are
> available?
KFC (Kurt's Free Calendar) is available on the archives. It uses
"remind" format for storing items. I downloaded remind and compiled it
and tend to use it more than KFC. (It has a command-line interface
so it is easy to use remotely.)
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From: Markus Pilzecker <markus.pilzecker@rhein-neckar.netsurf.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: installing custom printer filters [ghostscript] via netinfo?
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 23:49:31 +0000
Organization: GNI -- Internet fuer Odenwald, Rhein-Neckar, Karlsruhe, Kaiserslautern, Heilbronn und Pfaffenhofen
Message-ID: <317D6C8B.1E3BCEE3@rhein-neckar.netsurf.de>
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I just compiled aladdin ghostscript under NSI and it works really fine,
except that I am not [yet] able to integrate it as printer filter
into netinfo. It looks as if it should be possible to do it
in an analogous way to the existing filters.
Any advice to run 'lpr' in an 1:1 mode would help for the meantime.
Is there anybody out there, who knows a solution?
Thanks, Markus
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From: Markus Pilzecker <markus.pilzecker@rhein-neckar.netsurf.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.ai.doc-analysis.misc,comp.ai.doc-analysis.ocr,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: arabic fonts
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 23:55:40 +0000
Organization: GNI -- Internet fuer Odenwald, Rhein-Neckar, Karlsruhe, Kaiserslautern, Heilbronn und Pfaffenhofen
Message-ID: <317D6DFC.6599234E@rhein-neckar.netsurf.de>
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Jochen Gloger wrote:
>
> Hi,
> we are currently starting a feasibility study for the recognition of arabic
> script. We are using NEXTSTEP in our department and so, I am looking for
> arabic fonts which may be used with the NEXTSTEP operating system. Are there
> any hints or commercial packages available?? What about an arabic keyboard??
> Thanks in advance for any hints,
>
> regards
> Jochen
>
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May be they won't fit too well into the NS framework, but there are arabic fonts
and arabic style files available for TeX, which is also running on NS. You can
get that fonts etc. from any CTAN ftp server e.g. ftp.dante.de.
hope, it helps,
Markus
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From: rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla)
Subject: Re: Controlling multiple monitors with one kybd/mouse
In-Reply-To: rdl@world.std.com's message of Tue, 23 Apr 1996 04:10:12 GMT
Message-ID: <u41ag02dy4w.fsf@world.std.com>
Sender: rdl@world.std.com
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
References: <4lgm1j$dhq@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <u41n343shqz.fsf@world.std.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 04:49:51 GMT
I meant ScreenCast not WatchMe.
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP / NEXTSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
Tel: + 1 (617) 252-0088
Fax: + 1 (617) 252-0004
E-mail: Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com
From: michael@mmgraph.com (Michael Rutchik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Graphics program.
Date: 24 Apr 1996 07:26:41 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4lkl3h$nfr@nntp.crl.com>
References: <4ldvsb$p0b@info.itsq8.com> <4le9uu$757@usc.edu>
In <4le9uu$757@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> In <4ldvsb$p0b@info.itsq8.com> Ahmad Al-rasheedan wrote:
> > I use WetPaint 1.7. I like it very much. Lately, I've played with
> > PhotoShop under Windogz. I must say the features in PhotoShop
> > are a lot better compared to WetPaint.
> >
> > Any graphics program out there compares to PhotoShop?
>
>
> TIFFany II is as good as they get on any platform!
Agreed! I have promised this group a TIFFany II Tutorial to be posted on
Mmalcolm Crawford's excellent NEXTSTEP Graphics site
(http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/contents.html). I am working on
it, but have been a bit overwhelmed with work lately. I'll set a new target
date of the end of April to have something ready. Sorry for the delay.
In the meantime, buy a copy of TIFFany so you'll be ready when the Tutorial
finally arrives:-)
-michael
Michael Rutchik
michael@mmgraph.com
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: movie and animation and radio players
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 11:05:25 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960424105038.11824A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <4ljmo5$1omt@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
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In-Reply-To: <4ljmo5$1omt@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
On 23 Apr 1996, Mark E. Kotanchek wrote:
> PC compatibility rears its ugly head again...
>
> The issue of the moment is playing animations --specifically, of the *.mov
> and *.avi variety. I scoured Peanuts and after bouncing around for way too
> long, I concluded that I was SOL.
>
It seems as if you didn't search Peanuts long enough.
You were looking for tools, which handle graphics, so lets look into:
Graphics. Then you want to have tool which shows you movies, let's switch
to the subdirectory movie, voila. ftp://peanuts.leo.org/Graphics/movie/
*.mov are Quicktime movies. Playable through NEXTIME
*.avi can get played with VideoStream
(ftp://peanuts.leo.org/Graphics/movie/VideoStream*)
*.mpg MPEG movies can get played with either VideoStream (s.o.) or
a variety of other players, e.g. Movie
(ftp://peanuts.leo.org/Graphics/movie/Movie*)
*.xanim
*.anim picture animations can get played with Motion.
(ftp://peanuts.leo.org/Graphics/movie/Motion*)
*.fli
*.flc digital video files: PockedVideoViewer
MovieShow
(ftp://peanuts.leo.org/Graphics/movie/PockedVideoView*)
.. and there are many other, too!
Hope this helps a little bit more :)
Greetings,
Boerny
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From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Graphics program.
Date: 24 Apr 1996 08:24:32 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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References: <4ldvsb$p0b@info.itsq8.com> <4le9uu$757@usc.edu>
<4lkl3h$nfr@nntp.crl.com>
In <4lkl3h$nfr@nntp.crl.com> Michael Rutchik wrote:
> In <4le9uu$757@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> > TIFFany II is as good as they get on any platform!
>
> Agreed! I have promised this group a TIFFany II Tutorial to be posted on
> Mmalcolm Crawford's excellent NEXTSTEP Graphics site
> (http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/contents.html). I am working
on
> it, but have been a bit overwhelmed with work lately. I'll set a new target
> date of the end of April to have something ready. Sorry for the delay.
I can't wait! If you need any assistance... although I'm not sure how helpful
I could be.
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From: i455@stio1 (Bergmann Winfried)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: installing custom printer filters [ghostscript] via netinfo?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next
Date: 24 Apr 1996 12:52:23 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Message-ID: <4ll867$qui@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
References: <317D6C8B.1E3BCEE3@rhein-neckar.netsurf.de>
Markus Pilzecker (markus.pilzecker@rhein-neckar.netsurf.de) wrote:
: I just compiled aladdin ghostscript under NSI and it works really fine,
: except that I am not [yet] able to integrate it as printer filter
: into netinfo. It looks as if it should be possible to do it
: in an analogous way to the existing filters.
Hallo,
Ich poste das hier auf deutsch, da die Gruppe mit de. beginnt:
Ich wuerde empfehlen,
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/printer/ghostHPDJ.0.2.I.bs.tar.gz
zu ziehen und in die RTF-Files reinzusehen.
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Expo Europe
Date: 24 Apr 1996 12:36:56 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Message-ID: <4ll798$7kd@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <9604221717.AA01993@huelf.hamburg.com>
Stefan Huelf (stefan@huelf.hamburg.com) wrote:
: On 04/21/96, mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
: > Maybe you could come over
: > for the NeXT Expo Europe?! ;-)
: Is there going to be one ?? - When ?? ;-)
There certainly won't be a _NeXT_Expo_ Europe ! Sic.
Gregor
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From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mail trouble - again
Date: 24 Apr 1996 13:17:09 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <4ll9kl$dfh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I posted this about a week ago, and no one has responded. Perhaps its just a
stupid question, or perhaps no one else has this problem? Anyway, I will ask
one more time:
Having installed EnhanceMail recently, I tried the "Automatic Spell Checking"
option. Didn't like the way it handled so I disabled it. I also have chosen
not to automatically archive outgoing mail. Now, when I want to archive mail,
I try the old alt-Deliver mechanism. I see where this now brings up the
spell-check, which I could live with, but another alt-Deliver does not send
the message, and a simple Deliver doesn't archive the outgoing message. Can
someone help me return to the days of selective archiving and no
auto-spell-checking while retaining the other niceties of EnhanceMail?
Thanks.
Randy
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From: kluskens@crystal.nrl.navy.mil (Michael S Kluskens)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: dvi to RTF needed please
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 11:22:10 -0500
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory
Message-ID: <kluskens-2404961122100001@nazgul.nrl.navy.mil>
References: <1996Apr22.140955.10526@cyantic.com>
In article <1996Apr22.140955.10526@cyantic.com>, pavneet@cyantic.com
(Pavneet Arora) wrote:
>Sorry if this has come up before. I am in urgent need of a dvi to RTF
>converter. Does such a beast exist? If so, could someone point me to
>where I can find it.
>
>The reason for my need is that I have become comfortable doing all my
>documentation using LaTeX (under NEXTSTEP), but our company's internal
>online documentation utilizes NeXT's Digital Librarian application to
>index the material --- this app can handle straight text, or RTF. So if
>I want to continue using LaTeX I have to produce RTF :-(.
>
You want a latex to rtf converter, the best free one I found is tex2rtf,
you can find it on a CTAN archive in tex-archive/support. Also, there is
a commerical program which handles more general conversions possibly even
some equations.
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From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail trouble - again
Date: 24 Apr 1996 16:03:06 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-04.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4lljbq$qmt@usc.edu>
References: <4ll9kl$dfh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
In <4ll9kl$dfh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Randy Jackson wrote:
> I posted this about a week ago, and no one has responded. Perhaps its just
a
> stupid question, or perhaps no one else has this problem? Anyway, I will
ask
> one more time:
>
>
> Having installed EnhanceMail recently, I tried the "Automatic Spell
Checking"
> option. Didn't like the way it handled so I disabled it. I also have
chosen
> not to automatically archive outgoing mail. Now, when I want to archive
mail,
> I try the old alt-Deliver mechanism. I see where this now brings up the
> spell-check, which I could live with, but another alt-Deliver does not send
> the message, and a simple Deliver doesn't archive the outgoing message.
Can
> someone help me return to the days of selective archiving and no
> auto-spell-checking while retaining the other niceties of EnhanceMail?
Well, I'll respond so you don't feel too neglected. 8-)
I tried what you did and got same results. 7+(
But I don't know the solution. ;-0
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From: Srivatsan Rajagopal <sriraj@eel.ufl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT Printer Driver
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 14:38:14 -0400
Organization: University of Florida
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Hi,
I am sorry if this is the wrong newsgroup to post, but I believe this
question is pertaining to this group.
I have a NeXT printer connected to a NeXT machine. This printer is
accessible from the Network (a bunch of Sun and Windows machines). The
problem is with the Windows NT 3.51 machine. I am unable to find a
suitable postscript driver for the NeXT printer. For the other Windows
95 machines on the network, the Apple Laserwriter driver works fine for
print jobs to the NeXT printer. However there is no Apple Laserwrite
driver for the NT machine, although it has a bunch of other Apple
Laserwriter drivers (NT, NTX, v5.22 and so on). I am able to print only
one page at a time with these postscript drivers. I also tried HP
postscript drivers without much success.
I would like to know if NeXT has its own driver for Windows NT ? If not
what other driver would be suitable. Any help in this regard will be
appreciated.
I do not read this group regularly. I would prefer email replies if you
have an answer. Thanks.
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From: Paul R. Brown <pbrown@math.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: multiple blank lines in Mail (NS3.2, black)
Date: 24 Apr 1996 20:28:40 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <4lm2to$e48@agate.berkeley.edu>
Every so often, I receive a message with several blank lines at the end, and
it ends up forcing me to go into my Active.mbox/mbox and delete the
additional lines so that Mail.app's indexing matches the positions of the
messages in the file. Is this a bug? Do I need to set a preference or default
so that it doesn't happen?
Any help appreciated.
Paul
From: bkmoore@uci.edu (Brian Kevin Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need A Better Internet Dialer
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 24 Apr 1996 20:36:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4lm3bt$h8p@news.service.uci.edu>
Hello All,
For some time now, I have been using "PPP-2.2" to connect my system my
school's ppp server. It works very well once the connection is up and
running, but getting there is another story. PPP-2.2 comes with the program
"chat" to dial the modem and get the connection up and running. My problem
with chat is that there doesn't seem to be any type of error handling
ability. About half the time I dial, the line is busy. Sometimes, the
modem on the other end is not working properly. My school has one or two bad
modems in the modem pool. When something like this happens, chat just keeps
on going, and locks up the com port, keeping me from being able to redial for
about three minutes. On really bad days, I use "Kermit" do dial and do the
login manually. At least I can hang up when there is a problem.
Does any one have a chat script that has error handling ability. I would
like a script that has a dial timeout, checks for a login: prompt, and hangs
up and redials if there is a problem. If chat cannot handle this, is there a
better dialer around that might satisfy my needs.
I also have Linux installed on another partition. Linux comes with the
"DIP" internet dialer. Dip has very good error handling. It will keep
hanging up and redialing until it gets a working connection. Dip appears to
be written specifically for Linux. But if Chat cannot handle redial, could
dip possibly be modified to build under NeXT? Has this been attempted? Any
ideas would be appreciated.
Brian K. Moore
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CERT advisories CA-96.08, CA-96. 09and NEXTSTEP
Date: 24 Apr 1996 21:38:59 GMT
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <4lm71j$bma@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
In comp.security.announce, there were a couple of CERT advisories
posted describing vulnerabilities with rpc.pcnfsd and with rpc.statd.
Both of these advisories stated that these vulnerabilities would
be fixed in OpenStep 4.0
> NeXT Software, Inc.
> ===================
> NEXTSTEP is vulnerable. This will be fixed in the 4.0 release of
> OpenStep for Mach (aka NEXTSTEP 4.0, due out 2Q96).
but neither makes any mention of if a patch will be released
for NEXTSTEP 3.x.
Does NeXT have any plans for releasing patches for
these vulnerabilities for 3.x versions?
Eugene
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From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: movie and animation and radio players
Date: 24 Apr 1996 22:44:14 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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Bernhard Scholz wrote:
> It seems as if you didn't search Peanuts long enough.
> You were looking for tools, which handle graphics, so lets look into:
> Graphics. Then you want to have tool which shows you movies, let's switch
> to the subdirectory movie, voila. ftp://peanuts.leo.org/Graphics/movie/
Everything said was true, except the URL was off by a few directories.
Here's the correct URL (at least for people in the USA accessing peanuts):
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Graphics/movie/
> Hope this helps a little bit more :)
My question: Does anyone have these compiled for NS3.3 m68k?
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From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
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Subject: Does anyone have these compiled for m68k NS3.3? (Was: movie and animation and radio players)
Date: 24 Apr 1996 22:44:24 GMT
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Does anyone have these compiled for m68k NS3.3?
VideoStream
Motion.
PockedVideoViewer
MovieShow
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From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need A Better Internet Dialer
Date: 24 Apr 1996 22:32:22 GMT
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In <4lm3bt$h8p@news.service.uci.edu> Brian Kevin Moore wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> For some time now, I have been using "PPP-2.2" to connect my system my
> school's ppp server. It works very well once the connection is up and
> running, but getting there is another story. PPP-2.2 comes with the
program
> "chat" to dial the modem and get the connection up and running. My problem
> with chat is that there doesn't seem to be any type of error handling
> ability. About half the time I dial, the line is busy. Sometimes, the
> modem on the other end is not working properly. My school has one or two
bad
> modems in the modem pool. When something like this happens, chat just
keeps
> on going, and locks up the com port, keeping me from being able to redial
for
> about three minutes. On really bad days, I use "Kermit" do dial and do the
> login manually. At least I can hang up when there is a problem.
>
> Does any one have a chat script that has error handling ability. I would
> like a script that has a dial timeout, checks for a login: prompt, and
hangs
> up and redials if there is a problem. If chat cannot handle this, is there
a
> better dialer around that might satisfy my needs.
If you run GateKeeper (latest version 1.0a) it has feature called persistent
connection, and will handle your situation without a hitch. Highly
recommended tool for accessing the net (it does a lot of other things
besides).
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From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: calendar programs (Cassandra, etc)
Date: 24 Apr 1996 23:21:11 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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gladen@linus.niehs.nih.gov (Beth C. Gladen) wrote:
> We have black hardware but will soon be switching to white. I
> use Cassandra as my calendar program. I suspect it does not work
> on white as it is too old (the version I have, 1.5 v28, is dated
> January 1992). If I'm wrong, please let me know. Otherwise,
> what calendar programs are available?
There is a somewhat newer version (1.7a) of Cassandra available at:
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/apps/Cassandra_f/
There are four single-architecture binaries in that directory,
and a quad-fat version. The source code is also there. I keep
meaning to clean it up sometime, I have a whole bunch of things
I'd like to do to it...
There are a number of commercial calendar programs available,
which are more actively supported than Cassandra and which
probably have a lot of features that Cassandra does not have.
Right now I can't think of their names, though.
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From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: calendar programs (Cassandra, etc)
Date: 24 Apr 1996 23:27:32 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
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Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote:
> There is a somewhat newer version (1.7a) of Cassandra available at:
>
> ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/apps/Cassandra_f/
Ahem. That's not right. It's actually at:
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/apps/Cassandra_f/
my apologies...
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From: guenther@onevision.de (Guenther Fuerthaller)
Subject: Re: OmniPDF printed garbage
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 15:39:55 GMT
In article <u41ohojshti.fsf@world.std.com> rdl@world.std.com (Robert La
Ferla) writes:
> I missed this thread. I tried printing a PDF file using OmniPDF.app
> to my Lexmark Optra L and it came out as garbage too. Any insight?
>
> Robert
Use PDFView and if it doesn't work send
a bug report to me.
Guenther
From: "Tony C." <greenboy@ucla.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Preference Clock MESSED UP
Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 19:31:02 -0700
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
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For some reason the clock in NeXTSTEP insists on being 8 hours behind
the hardware clock, and if I correct the time in Preferences the
system clock get screwed in reverse. Is there a way to sync it to
actual time?
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Xnext window weirdness
Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:24:05 -0400
Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA
Message-ID: <4ln5q5$ad5@news.duke.edu>
I installed Xnext on my NEXTSTEP 3.3/Intel machine, and got it
up and running, but its user interface is rather primitive, to
say the least. The documentation is poor, so I only knew to
start Xnext by typing "xinit" in a command shell. Then, a "window"
fills the lower left quarter of the screen. Actually, it is just
a region that the app takes over and displays on; there is no way
to move it, or resize it. There is a non-NEXT UI scroll bar, but
it does not work. When the cursor goes over an uncovered part of
the "window", the window pops to the front, without a mouse click.
I would hardly say, as the README does, that it has "An X screen
that's realised as a window in the common NEXTSTEP UI".
Now am I missing something, or is this how Xnext works?
-- Lee Altenberg
altenber@mhpcc.edu
From: ti6hk@trick.ti6.tu-harburg.de (Henry Koplien)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SLIP Software.
Date: 25 Apr 1996 07:09:26 GMT
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References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960419124927.4088K-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article <Pine.NXT.3.93.960419124927.4088K-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
> On Thu, 18 Apr 1996, Andrew M. Priasmoro wrote:
> slip software (NOTE: no longer supported):
> ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Unix/communication/TransSys-PNI.1.13.NI.b.tar.gz
> ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Unix/communication/TransSys-PNI.1.13.README
> ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Communication/apps/SLIPCommander.3.21.NI.b.tar.gz
> ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Communication/apps/SLIPCommander.3.21.README
The problem is, the things I retrieved from TransSys doesen't work unter NS for
Intel....They have the wrong executables.
Henry
From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quicken for NeXT?
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 08:15:02 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Oldenburg
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References: <3174B400.7C1D@media.mit.edu>
"W. J. Peterson" <peterson@media.mit.edu> wrote:
>I signed up for PC banking i.e. check balance/pay
>bills with the computer. Right now I am using
>Quicken 5 with win NT..(system is dual boot NT/NS
>3.3) the only reason I use NT at all is to do the
>banking. Does anyone know of a piece of software
>for NeXT that will allow this?
Lighthouse (or St
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quicken for NeXT?
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 08:15:03 GMT
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"W. J. Peterson" <peterson@media.mit.edu> wrote:
>I signed up for PC banking i.e. check balance/pay
>bills with the computer. Right now I am using
>Quicken 5 with win NT..(system is dual boot NT/NS
>3.3) the only reason I use NT at all is to do the
>banking. Does anyone know of a piece of software
>for NeXT that will allow this?
>peterson@media.mit.edu
Checksum.app is sold by either Stone or Lighthouse.
Gerhard.
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From: gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Network-Backup on Black NeXT ?
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 08:14:59 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Oldenburg
Message-ID: <4lncaf$p0p@news.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
References: <4ktqbo$oio@trumpet.uni-mannheim.de>
sappenz@pi1.informatik.uni-mannheim.de (Soeren Appenzeller) wrote:
[...]
>The only commercial solution I know is "Savety-Net". But Savety-Net can't
>backup remote Filesystems (they have to be mounted on the Back-up-Machine...).
[...]
SafetyNet Pro can back up NFS mounted file systems.
Gerhard.
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From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: calendar programs (Cassandra, etc)
Date: 25 Apr 1996 08:17:11 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
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References: <4lj585$tba@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> <4lmd17$a18@usenet.rpi.edu>
In <4lmd17$a18@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn wrote:
> gladen@linus.niehs.nih.gov (Beth C. Gladen) wrote:
> > We have black hardware but will soon be switching to white. I
> > use Cassandra as my calendar program. I suspect it does not work
> > on white as it is too old (the version I have, 1.5 v28, is dated
> > January 1992). If I'm wrong, please let me know. Otherwise,
> > what calendar programs are available?
>
> There are a number of commercial calendar programs available,
> which are more actively supported than Cassandra and which
> probably have a lot of features that Cassandra does not have.
> Right now I can't think of their names, though.
I've seen the mention of KFC, and Garance's mention of the Intel version of
Cassandra. The only commercial calendar program that I am aware of is
PencilMeIn, from Sarrus. info@sarrus.com.
Paul
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From: sl@skynet.oph.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Leuker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Xnext window weirdness
Date: 25 Apr 1996 08:14:52 GMT
Organization: RWTH -Aachen / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik
Message-ID: <4lnc9s$3rs@news.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <4ln5q5$ad5@news.duke.edu>
Copyright: This message is copyrighted (c) by Stefan Leuker
altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote:
> I installed Xnext on my NEXTSTEP 3.3/Intel machine, and got it
> up and running, but its user interface is rather primitive, to
> say the least. The documentation is poor, so I only knew to
> start Xnext by typing "xinit" in a command shell. Then, a "window"
You did that right. The UI frontend Xnext.app isn't stable yet.
> fills the lower left quarter of the screen. Actually, it is just
> a region that the app takes over and displays on; there is no way
It is the X screen that can be set to fill the whole screen, so you
won't see the NEXTSTEP UI anymore. For some reasons, the default
size of the screen is 640x480.
> to move it, or resize it. There is a non-NEXT UI scroll bar, but
> it does not work. When the cursor goes over an uncovered part of
> the "window", the window pops to the front, without a mouse click.
You may move the X screen by Cmd-dragging the mouse. Since X needs
all events DPS can create, the screen comes to front and covers
NEXTSTEP if you enter the region. This may be changed in later releases.
The scrollbar you see is some part of a X application displayed on the
server. X isn't able to resize a screen while the server is running.
You may specify a different size in the .xserverrc file.
> I would hardly say, as the README does, that it has "An X screen
> that's realised as a window in the common NEXTSTEP UI".
OK, it's a DPS window that is displayed among the NEXTSTEP-like DPS
windows instead of disabling the Workspace while running X.
> Now am I missing something, or is this how Xnext works?
Currently, this is how Xnext works.
If you like to submit suggestions, please do so. Talking to the
author can do miracles in some case.
Stefan
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From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Does anyone have these compiled for m68k NS3.3? (Was: movie and animation and radio players)
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 11:29:25 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
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On 24 Apr 1996, Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> Does anyone have these compiled for m68k NS3.3?
>
> VideoStream
> Motion.
> PockedVideoViewer
> MovieShow
Besides VideoStream, you can get all of them on Peanuts compiled for M68k
and Intel. VidoeStream is there only in source-code.
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/Graphics/movie/
You might also check one of our mirrors in the states.
Greetings,
Boerny
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From: em@marcon.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: displaying Greek Web pages in OmniWeb
Date: 25 Apr 1996 07:30:10 GMT
Organization: MARCON - Evstathios Marinos Consulting, Karlsruhe/Germany
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Hi,
I have problems displaying Greek Web Pages in OmniWeb. Do I need special fonts?
Here is a small test page: http://www.onned.gr/greek/index.htm
Thanks for your help
Stathis
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From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: WebObjects doesn't run.
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 12:53:47 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
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Hello,
I'm posting this to the newsgroup in the hope to get an answer prior to
the NeXTanswers team and even because it's maybe a simple problem.
I'm running NS 3.3 on Intel. I installed WebObjcts 1.0 and WebServer as
well as the Foundation User Patch (NeXTasnwer 2117). I did a standard
installation which means that everything went to /NextLibrary/. I use a
single user machine, configured to run PPP connections as needed (this
means that I added some hosts with hostconfig and added addtiional IPs as
well as additional nameserver, but bring up the ppp link only by hand if
I need it).
Everything runs fine after starting the httpd as advised. I even can get
output of e.g. test-cgi etc. However running WebObjects the _first_ time
causes OmniWeb to load forever. Every access after this first run causes
an immediate reply like: Did not receive response from application.
So I can'r run WebObjects nor can I run any WO example.
Any hints?
Best regards,
Boerny.
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From: daniel@vis.inf.ethz.ch (Daniel Gerald Kluge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Need "simple-to-setup" X-windows package for Intel NS 3.3
Date: 25 Apr 1996 12:02:37 GMT
Organization: Verein der Informatikstudierenden an der ETH Zuerich
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References: <Pine.SUN.3.92.960415144720.15455A-100000@elaine43.Stanford.EDU> <4l1sqf$1ib@usenet.rpi.edu> <3179EE40.294C@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
In article <3179EE40.294C@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, "Eric A. Dubiel" wrote:
>Garance A Drosehn wrote:
>>
>> Robert Gibson Jacobs <rjacobs@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>> > require a fairly painful installation process. Is there a
>> > pre-compiled binary or another alternative that is free?
>>
>> The "that is free" requirement cuts down the choices a bit.
>Also see Xnext
>http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~leuker/Xnext/
>It's a FREE X-Windows package...
Nope, Xnext is shareware, which doesn't make it free, just a lot of
pepole think, that it is free.
-daniel
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From: mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: movie and animation and radio players
Date: 25 Apr 1996 14:48:24 GMT
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
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In article
<Pine.HPP.3.91.960424105038.11824A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:
On 23 Apr 1996, Mark E. Kotanchek wrote:
> PC compatibility rears its ugly head again...
>
> The issue of the moment is playing animations --specifically, of the *.mov
> and *.avi variety. I scoured Peanuts and after bouncing around for way too
> long, I concluded that I was SOL.
>
It seems as if you didn't search Peanuts long enough.
You were looking for tools, which handle graphics, so lets look into:
Graphics. Then you want to have tool which shows you movies, let's switch
to the subdirectory movie, voila. ftp://peanuts.leo.org/Graphics/movie/
*.mov are Quicktime movies. Playable through NEXTIME
[munch]
I have fetched all of these players and just need to buy NEXTIME to complete
the suite; however, the big question is....
Is there a "radio player" out there to hook into OmniWeb?
Thanks,
Mark.
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From: gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de (Gerald Wildgruber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: glimpse on NSfIP ?
Date: 25 Apr 1996 19:06:49 +0200
Organization: Apatheia Corp.
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Has anyone managed to compile the indexing tool "glimpse" on a NeXT for
Intel (3.3+patch) machine ? I tried with the NeXT Makefile included within the
distribution and via the autoconfig utility, neither succeeded.
Any hints ?
Thanks
Gerald
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From: cpryor@zariski.ftf.lth.se (Craig Pryor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb1.0 better than 2.0??
Date: 24 Apr 1996 20:25:41 GMT
Organization: Lund University
Message-ID: <4lm2o5$las@merkurius.lu.se>
I use http://xxx.lanl.gov quite a lot. It is a physics e-print archive.
This site provides papers as both gzipped PS files, and as gzipped and
tarred TeX + PS. (PS for the figures)
With Omniweb 1.0 everything worked just fine. If I clicked on a "src"
link the browser downloaded the gzipped and tarred source consisting of a TeX
file and associated figures in Postscript. Opener.app would then start up,
and a file viewer would appear with the various files in a directory in
/tmp. Clicking on a "ps" link would download the gzipped postscript version
of the paper, gunzip it, start up Preview.app and the paper would appear.
This was (and is) a joy to use, and was the envy of my Netscape using office
mate.
Under OmniWeb 2.0.1 this NO LONGER WORKS. Clicking on a "src" link downloads
the paper, but the paper comes up in an Edit.app window as a mangled amalgam
of the TeX and the PS figures. Clicking a "ps" link is usable, but less
convenient than under 1.0: Now the PS file is gunzipped and put in /tmp,
but the ps source comes up in an Edit.app window and the file does not
have a .ps extension.
Does anyone know what's going on here? Perhaps the problem is really with
Opener.app?
I think OmniWeb is great. I liked 1.0 a lot, and except for the above
problem, 2.0 is great. I would just prefer to use 2.0 if possible.
Craig Pryor
cpryor@zariski.ftf.lth.se
From: vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: moving from black to white... need new software
Date: 25 Apr 1996 17:21:20 GMT
Organization: Cleveland Clinic Foundation
Message-ID: <4locag$7io@slider.bme.ri.ccf.org>
My move from black to white is going quite well, expect for a few bits of
missing apps.
WordPerfect -> OpenWrite (much better solutin)
Improv -> Quantrix (way better!)
Cassandra -> heard a few things about an intel version
ApsoftDraw -> no idea, need something badly!
Scene -> Doesn't exist, need somthing that handles weird .eps files
SciPlot -> is there an intell version?
NewsGrazer -> old version is crashing more and more, is there a new one?
WarpIt -> a strange but very usefull app that I MUST replace!
ImageViewer -> anything that converts image formats? I can't figure out how to
use OmniImage...
AChen -> my wife wants a copy for home use....
I would certainly appreciate any advice on these topics.
Thanks
--
Ivan Vesely, Ph.D.
Associate Staff
Department of Biomedical Engineering
Cleveland Clinic Foundation
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http://www.ccf.org/ri/bme/valve/
From: monckton@arrow.mech.ubc.ca (Simon Monckton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Xnext Color
Date: 25 Apr 1996 18:35:12 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Message-ID: <4logl0$j02@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
References: <4ljpkh$b0@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Wassim M. Jabi (wjabi@umich.edu) wrote:
: I just finished installing the Xnext packages and I am only getting a
: black and white visual. So, how does one get it to display in color on
: a NeXTStation Color 25MHz. Thanks.
: --
: Wassim M. Jabi
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Change the soft link from Xnext to Xnext.color. If you look at the
Xnext bin directory:
>ls -l X
lrwxrwxrwx 1 owner 5 Apr 12 15:51 X -> Xnext
This is the default setting, reset this softlink to
lrwxrwxrwx 1 owner 5 Apr 12 15:51 X -> Xnext.color
If you are unfamiliar with soft links try man ln.
Next stop...color X!
Simon
From: rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Preference Clock MESSED UP
Date: 25 Apr 1996 18:45:58 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
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References: <317EE3E6.691C@ucla.edu>
In article <317EE3E6.691C@ucla.edu> "Tony C." <greenboy@ucla.edu> writes:
> For some reason the clock in NeXTSTEP insists on being 8 hours behind
> the hardware clock, and if I correct the time in Preferences the
> system clock get screwed in reverse. Is there a way to sync it to
> actual time?
NEXTSTEP sets the system clock to GMT not local time.
--
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Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine,
Iowa State University, 2630 Vet. Med. Bldg., Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-6961 or 3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
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From: wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: movie and animation and radio players
Date: 25 Apr 1996 19:52:50 GMT
Organization: University of Regensburg, Germany
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References: <4lo3bo$1dvc@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
In article <4lo3bo$1dvc@hearst.cac.psu.edu> mek@guinan.arl.psu.edu (Mark
E. Kotanchek) writes:
> I have fetched all of these players and just need to buy NEXTIME to
> complete the suite; however, the big question is....
>
> Is there a "radio player" out there to hook into OmniWeb?
OmniGroup said they are talking with the RealAudio people on this subject,
but I haven't heard more so far.
Wolfgang
BTW: With multicast support now available, has anybody succeded in
compiling or porting MBONE applications?
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From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: f2c
Date: 25 Apr 1996 19:13:50 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <4loite$125@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I am considering installing f2c on my NeXT Intel. Can anyone tell me:
Where to find it
and
whether it is a difficult install?
Thanks.
Randy
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From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: moving from black to white... need new software
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:26:56 -0400
Organization: worldbank
Message-ID: <317FE010.58BE@worldbank.org>
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vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org wrote:
> My move from black to white is going quite well, expect for a few bits of
> missing apps.
>
> WordPerfect -> OpenWrite (much better solutin)
The last release of WP does run on white (at least, the June 1993 version does)
> ImageViewer -> anything that converts image formats? I can't figure out how to
> use OmniImage...
Latest release runs on white.
Stefano
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb1.0 better than 2.0??
Date: 25 Apr 1996 21:03:48 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <4lopbk$5p3@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <4lm2o5$las@merkurius.lu.se>
Craig Pryor writes
> I use http://xxx.lanl.gov quite a lot. It is a physics e-print
> archive. This site provides papers as both gzipped PS files,
> and as gzipped and tarred TeX + PS. (PS for the figures)
>
> With Omniweb 1.0 everything worked just fine. If I clicked on a
> "src" link the browser downloaded the gzipped and tarred source
> consisting of a TeX file and associated figures in Postscript.
> Opener.app would then start up, and a file viewer would appear
> with the various files in a directory in /tmp. Clicking on a "ps"
> link would download the gzipped postscript version of the paper,
> gunzip it, start up Preview.app and the paper would appear. This
> was (and is) a joy to use, and was the envy of my Netscape using
> office mate.
>
> Under OmniWeb 2.0.1 this NO LONGER WORKS. Clicking on a "src"
> link downloads the paper, but the paper comes up in an Edit.app
> window as a mangled amalgam of the TeX and the PS figures. Clicking
> a "ps" link is usable, but less convenient than under 1.0: Now
> the PS file is gunzipped and put in /tmp, but the ps source comes
> up in an Edit.app window and the file does not have a .ps extension.
>
Well, there is this trick with Command-Clicking the reference. That will
download it somewhere in /tmp and open a Workspace viewer for it -- from
there, you are on your own. So this still works. Of course it's not
documented...
The problem is that often you don't KNOW what's behind a link; it says
just "image" or so. Then you happen to be clicking a ref to a big JPG
image, for instance. That works then as follows: it downloads a bit,
tries to display, and hangs the system. My 40MB ND took 12 minutes and
120MB of swap space to load a 7MB (uncompressed) JPG. Being the
co-author of TIFFany, I know that it can be done faster, way faster.
The same with PS. Click accidently on a PS refernece and it will run
forever with "converting PS to EPS". First, I'd like to see how a
conversion of PS to EPS works, but even then, OW2's sure doesn't work.
The only way is to kill the app (never had the patience to wait for
hours). In the example with the big JPG, kill the system, because it's
thrashing and you won't get to kill just the process. Lovely, I tell
you.
I reported these things in the early beta, and although I think it's not
acceptable behavior for a web browser to stall the machine, well, it's
there... Maybe they develop the app all on HP735s or so...
Have fun, and remember the command-click!
- Stan
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From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: color laser printer for nextstep
Date: 25 Apr 1996 19:30:10 GMT
Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main
Message-ID: <4lojs2$1k1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <4lgnvq$mvl@news.tamu.edu> <u41n343zqm5.fsf@world.std.com>
rdl@world.std.com (Robert La Ferla) wrote:
> You have three options: Lexmark Optra C, HP Color LaserJet 5, and the
> Tektronix Phaser 550. The Phaser is probably the best, followed by Lexmark
> and then HP. However, I haven't carefully looked at these so check the
> magazine reviews.
I checked color lasers carefully at the CeBIT and came to a different result.
The Tektronix by far has the worst printing quality of the printers
mentioned, since it's not a continuous tone laser. Lexmark right now seems
the best choice (I haven't got a print from the HP but heard very bad things
about its construction), but you might want to wait for the Canon and Dec
printers which build on the same Canon printing engine that Lexmark uses but
incorporate an EFI (!) PS RIP. Printing quality of these is simply fantastic.
Tschau
Uli
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From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: movie and animation and radio players
Date: 25 Apr 1996 22:19:51 GMT
Organization: ipc, U of Tuebingen, Germany
Distribution: world
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References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960424105038.11824A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <4lo3bo$1dvc@hearst.cac.psu.edu>
In <4lo3bo$1dvc@hearst.cac.psu.edu> Mark E. Kotanchek wrote:
> *.mov are Quicktime movies. Playable through NEXTIME
> [munch]
>
> I have fetched all of these players and just need to buy NEXTIME to
complete
Methinks Movie 3.0 can play quicktime movies as well (without sound).
--
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NeXTSTEP & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C ga ga"
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Does anyone have VideoStream compiled for m68k NS3.3?
Date: 25 Apr 1996 22:57:45 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In
<Pine.HPP.3.91.960425112722.26837B-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Bernhard Scholz wrote:
> On 24 Apr 1996, Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have these compiled for m68k NS3.3?
> >
> > VideoStream
> > Motion.
> > PockedVideoViewer
> > MovieShow
>
> Besides VideoStream, you can get all of them on Peanuts compiled for M68k
> and Intel. VidoeStream is there only in source-code.
>
> ftp://peanuts.leo.org/Graphics/movie/
>
> You might also check one of our mirrors in the states.
Well VideoStream seems quite important considering how much avi use there is.
So my question whether someone has compiled it for m68k NS3.3 still stands. I
don't have a developer system so I cannot compile anything. (Boy if OS for
mach runs decently on black I am finally going to get developer; and if it
doesn't then I'll finally get 3.3 developer. All this headache bothering
people for compiled versions!)
I'd much appreciate it if someone could NeXTMail it to me.
--
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From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Re: f2c
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>From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)>Subject: f2c
>Date: 25 Apr 1996 19:13:50 GMT
>
>I am considering installing f2c on my NeXT Intel. Can anyone tell me:
>
>Where to find it
Start looking at http://netlib.att.com/netlib/master/readme.html
>and
>
>whether it is a difficult install?
It is easy. Just follow the instructions.
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From: "James R. Pooton" <james@digisys.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: POPPASSD compilation
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 16:25:43 -0600
Organization: DigiSys Incorporated
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Hello,
If anyone has gotten POPPASSD to compile under NS could you please drop me a line. If you'd like to give it
a shot I can send you the source (only one source file). It's a password changing daemon for use with POP
clients like Eudora.
-James Pooton
james@digisys.net
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Uae.app - Amiga Emulator for NeXTStep
Date: 25 Apr 1996 23:32:43 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4lp22r$2nl@turbocat.snafu.de>
References: <3174B545.5904@media.mit.edu> <Dq04yz.A5v@isltd.insignia.com> <4l6g70$1ulq@saba.info.ucla.edu> <Pine.HPP.3.91.960419092953.24783C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:
> On 18 Apr 1996, Rick Vazquez wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have kickstart for this emulator?
> >
> As with every software there is a copyright on it. And the
> copyrightholder still exists. So it would be not legal to distribute a
> Kickstart ROM-image. You are not allowed to use any emulator without
I have Kickstarts in my A3000 (softkicked) can I just copy the file
DEVS:kickstart? Ist this emulator good?
Where do I get this in Germany?
_ _
_(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development,
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_/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152
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From: doyle@zeke.lanl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb1.0 better than 2.0??
Date: 26 Apr 1996 06:14:10 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Message-ID: <4lppji$dtd@newshost.lanl.gov>
References: <4lm2o5$las@merkurius.lu.se>
cpryor@zariski.ftf.lth.se (Craig Pryor) wrote:
> I use http://xxx.lanl.gov quite a lot.
I am an admin at xxx.
> Under OmniWeb 2.0.1 this NO LONGER WORKS. Clicking on a "src"
> link downloads the paper, but the paper comes up in an Edit.app
> window as a mangled amalgam of the TeX and the PS figures. Clicking
> a "ps" link is usable, but less convenient than under 1.0: Now
> the PS file is gunzipped and put in /tmp, but the ps source comes
> up in an Edit.app window and the file does not have a .ps extension.
OmniWeb 2.0 got rid of the x-eprint and x-eprint-tar entries in the
Omni.dictionary inside the app wrapper (at our request actually). Adding
x-eprint-tar back in with extension "tar" will restore the former behavior.
See the outdated, but useful, page http://xxx.lanl.gov/faq/srcfaq.html .
For PostScript, Omni screwed up. You have to add in application/postscript
with the extension ps back into the dictionary. There is a bug though and
some files will get a double .ps.ps extension, but this is only a small
nuisance since the file will still open in Preview as it should.
> Does anyone know what's going on here? Perhaps the problem is really with
> Opener.app?
Nothing to do with Opener. All in Omni.dictionary.
> I think OmniWeb is great. I liked 1.0 a lot, and except for the above
> problem, 2.0 is great. I would just prefer to use 2.0 if possible.
OW 2.0.1 has many advantages over 1.0 for using the archives after fixing the
problems. You can use Cookies to set your preference for what kind of PS the
ps links return (you should install the Bakoma fonts and get the little cm
fonts version of the PS so that it is readable in Preview - I'll be putting
up a page about that real soon now). Also, file uploading via the Web is
coming and only OW2.0 and Netscape currently behave correctly. PDF is coming
soon with internal and external (to references abstracts' URL's) hyperlinking
as well (also requires the Bakoma fonts).
Cheers,
Mark
From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb1.0 better than 2.0??
Date: 26 Apr 1996 06:21:51 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <4lpq1v$4ge@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
References: <4lm2o5$las@merkurius.lu.se> <4lopbk$5p3@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Stan Jirman (stanj@cs.stanford.edu) wrote:
> Craig Pryor writes
> > I use http://xxx.lanl.gov quite a lot. It is a physics e-print
> > archive. This site provides papers as both gzipped PS files,
> > and as gzipped and tarred TeX + PS. (PS for the figures)
> ...does not work under OmniWeb 2.0 ...
> The same with PS. Click accidently on a PS refernece and it will run
> forever with "converting PS to EPS". First, I'd like to see how a
> conversion of PS to EPS works, but even then, OW2's sure doesn't work.
The problems seem to occur with postscript files which do not have the
.ps extension. xxx.lanl.gov is the only server I know which does this,
but it is an important one (for me). There is an easy work-around for
these. Create a file ~/Library/OmniComponents/Omni.dictionary (or
/LocalLibrary/) with the same structure as OmniWeb.app/Omni.dictionary,
and add a line
application/postscript: "ps";
This appends the .ps extension, and it automagically opens in
Preview.app. I have NO clue why in the app-wrapper it says "smallPS".
I assume it is an ill-conceived bug-fix for something else, so no
warranty on changing it back! You can add extensions for non-standard
types, like application/x-eprint (make it .tex and it gets thrown into
TeXedit) and application/x-eprint-tar (I made it .tar.gz). In
combination with Opener you can pretty much handle anything that way.
PS. The command-click IS documented - in the 'keyboard short-cuts'
section. I agree, not where I would expect it...
PPS. I would like to see OmniWeb bugtracking database come on line. For
the time being they should change the 'Very soon' on the suggestions
page to 'Real Soon Now'.
For the rest - with this work-around OmniWeb works great for 99.3% of
what I have thrown at it, so I like it a lot. Much better than netscape
in fact.
Geert Jan van Oldenborgh
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Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics, Leiden University
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From: doyle@zeke.lanl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb1.0 better than 2.0??
Date: 26 Apr 1996 07:29:59 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Message-ID: <4lpu1n$dtd@newshost.lanl.gov>
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gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh) wrote:
> The problems seem to occur with postscript files which do not have the
> .ps extension. xxx.lanl.gov is the only server I know which does this,
> but it is an important one (for me).
Well, our PostScript is delivered via a script which decides whether to
autogenerate the PS from TeX or if it is cached. So there isn't a file
extension to send. We do send the http protocol standard
application/postscript though. No extension is needed.
> There is an easy work-around for
> these. Create a file ~/Library/OmniComponents/Omni.dictionary (or
> /LocalLibrary/) with the same structure as OmniWeb.app/Omni.dictionary,
> and add a line
>
> application/postscript: "ps";
This isn't a workaround. This is how it is supposed to work.
> This appends the .ps extension, and it automagically opens in
> Preview.app. I have NO clue why in the app-wrapper it says "smallPS".
> I assume it is an ill-conceived bug-fix for something else, so no
> warranty on changing it back!
Yes, they seemed to have mucked with the postscript stuff in going from 2.0
to 2.0.1 and didn't think it all the way through (hence, you also get double
.ps.ps extensions sometimes and see silly things like
application/x-postscript-not-eps in Omni.dictionary).
> You can add extensions for non-standard
> types, like application/x-eprint (make it .tex and it gets thrown into
> TeXedit) and application/x-eprint-tar (I made it .tar.gz). In
> combination with Opener you can pretty much handle anything that way.
No, x-eprint-tar should just be tar, not tar.gz. The gz is added by the
Content-Encoding: x-gzip header which is separate from the Content-Type:
x-eprint-tar header.
Cheers,
Mark
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
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Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 09:37:06 +0200
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On 25 Apr 1996, David Wetzel wrote:
> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:
>
> I have Kickstarts in my A3000 (softkicked) can I just copy the file
> DEVS:kickstart? Ist this emulator good?
>
> Where do I get this in Germany?
Uae is a _HAREDWARE_EMULATOR_, therefore it's the best thing you can get
by paying a lot for speed. On e.g. a P133 people state that the speed is
somewhat 98% of a Amiga500.
Anyway I experienced that the CPU emulation is even faster (subjective)
but graphic performance slows down everything. There is a patch I didn't
test actually which should give you even 80% of video performance! Then
this emulator would be even better than the original Amiga.
Uae currently emulates the CPU (68000), Blitter, Agnus, Denise, Paula.
ECS support is included in Beta, AGA might follow. It's great and
fascinating! But the best is: Now I can play the best Shanghai game ever
on my NEXTSTEP box :)))
As far as I know, you can't use a A3000 kickstart file, because the
emulation is fixed on the 68000 and the A3000 uses a 68030. Anyway you
could try it, because rumours state that only the boot ROM of the A3000
really uses 68030 specific opcodes. An ROM downloader included with Uae
will help you to copy the Kickstart to your NEXTSTEP box.
Best wishes,
Boerny.
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From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: f2c
Date: 26 Apr 1996 09:47:37 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4lq63p$8bl@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <4loite$125@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
In article <4loite$125@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) writes:
> I am considering installing f2c on my NeXT Intel. Can anyone tell me:
>
> Where to find it
>
> and
>
> whether it is a difficult install?
>
you can also look at the peanuts archive
http://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts/index.html
ftp://peanuts.leo.org
there you will find a precompiled version, too (I believe).
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From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: glimpse on NSfIP ?
Date: 26 Apr 1996 11:49:22 GMT
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4lqd82$hr@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
References: <x7wx34s05y.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
Gerald Wildgruber (gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de) wrote:
: Has anyone managed to compile the indexing tool "glimpse" on a NeXT for
: Intel (3.3+patch) machine ? I tried with the NeXT Makefile included
: within the distribution and via the autoconfig utility, neither
: succeeded.
: Any hints ?
After running ./configure, edit libtemplate/includes/autoconf.h and
define STRERROR:
#define HAVE_STRERROR 1
Then, compilation should work fine with NSI. With NS/HP-PA though, I
just noticed that the compiler crashes on main.c and main_server.c,
but removing the -O option just for those both files helps.
Oh yes, I'm talking about glimpse-3.0. But the 3.5beta seems to
compile fine, too.
Hope this helps!
Gregor
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: calendar programs
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 09:04:26 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960423152215.4723D-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4lj585$tba@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
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To: "Beth C. Gladen" <gladen@linus.niehs.nih.gov>
In-Reply-To: <4lj585$tba@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
On 23 Apr 1996, Beth C. Gladen wrote:
> We have black hardware but will soon be switching to white. I use
> Cassandra as my calendar program. I suspect it does not work on white as
> it is too old (the version I have, 1.5 v28, is dated January 1992). If
> I'm wrong, please let me know. Otherwise, what calendar programs are
> available?
>
> Thanks for any info.
> Beth Gladen, gladen@niehs.nih.gov
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra.1.5.N.b.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra.1.5d.README
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra.1.5d.s.README
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra.1.5d.s.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra_CalculatorWidget.README
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/workspace/Cassandra_CalculatorWidget.s.tar.gz
Those should be up-to-date...
The source was made publically available (the author left NeXTDom, I
think)
You might be able to compile it for Intel, or find someone who has done
it.
TjL
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 09:25:46 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960425092320.2873E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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To: peterson@media.mit.edu
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On 22 Apr 1996 peterson@media.mit.edu wrote:
> I have the next PGP interface pgp.app, but where do I get the actual pgp to
> install?
Good news! It is very close to you!
If you are in the USA, check out:
http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html
If you are not in the USA, or are planning on escaping the country:
http://www.ifi.uio.no/~staalesc/PGP
TjL
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: glimpse on NSfIP ?
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 15:50:10 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960425154620.2085A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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To: Gerald Wildgruber <gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
In-Reply-To: <x7wx34s05y.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
On 25 Apr 1996, Gerald Wildgruber wrote:
> Has anyone managed to compile the indexing tool "glimpse" on a NeXT for
> Intel (3.3+patch) machine ? I tried with the NeXT Makefile included
> within the distribution and via the autoconfig utility, neither
> succeeded.
I know just about nothing about this, but my guess is that 'NeXT'
makefiles are designed to work well with the original NeXT hardware, not
just any computer running NeXTStep.
(Pure speculation ON)
You MIGHT have more luck if you try one of the linux-type makefiles,
which MIGHT be closer to your Intel hardware....
But I am totally guessing here, as I never do any sort of compiling on
NSfIP.
(pure speculation OFF)
I'm guessing someone else will have more details.
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: moving from black to white... need new software
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 15:53:26 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960425155139.2085B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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On 25 Apr 1996 vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org wrote:
> SciPlot -> is there an intell version?
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Science/mathematics/SciPlot.4.01.NIHS.bd.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Science/mathematics/SciPlot.4.01.README
> NewsGrazer -> old version is crashing more and more, is there a new one?
depends on what version you are calling 'old'
> WarpIt -> a strange but very usefull app that I MUST replace!
what is it and where'd you find it?
TjL
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From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Preference Clock MESSED UP
Date: 26 Apr 1996 13:44:49 -0400
Organization: PHCS
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References: <317EE3E6.691C@ucla.edu>
In article <317EE3E6.691C@ucla.edu>, Tony C. <greenboy@ucla.edu> wrote:
>For some reason the clock in NeXTSTEP insists on being 8 hours behind
>the hardware clock, and if I correct the time in Preferences the
>system clock get screwed in reverse. Is there a way to sync it to
>actual time?
Try TimeShift which can be found at:
ftp://next-ftp.pitcher.org/pub/next/binaries/util/TimeShift.I.b.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.pitcher.org/pub/next/binaries/util/TimeShift.README
TimeShift sets the hardware clock to localtime when NEXTSTEP is
shutdown. It then restores the clock to the correct GMT time when
NS boots. This lets NS co-exist with DOS/Windows without forcing
you to constantly reset the time.
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From: everhart@alterlife.com (Dwight Everhart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: calendar programs
Date: 26 Apr 1996 18:20:06 GMT
Organization: IntelliNet-ISP, LLC. 1-800-290-7677
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References: <4lj585$tba@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
In <4lj585$tba@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Beth C. Gladen wrote:
> We have black hardware but will soon be switching to white. I use
> Cassandra as my calendar program. I suspect it does not work on white as
> it is too old (the version I have, 1.5 v28, is dated January 1992). If
> I'm wrong, please let me know. Otherwise, what calendar programs are
> available?
You might want to check out Chronographer. It's currently in beta testing
and lacks a few important features which will be in the final release, such
as repeating appointments and appointment reminders. I think it's pretty
neat, but I'm probably biased, since I wrote it.
You can find Chronographer at PEAK and Peanuts:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/Chronographer.0.71.NI.b.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/Chronographer.0.71.HS.b.tar.gz
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/calendars/Chronographer.0.71.NI.b.tar.gz
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/calendars/Chronographer.0.71.HS.b.tar.gz
The release is binary-only. This beta version is free, but the final version
will be commercial.
--
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From: ver65osc@email.sjsu.edu (ver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help: How to unpack tar.gz files???
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 12:13:47 +0800
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <ver65osc-2604961213470001@physlab4.sjsu.edu>
I need to unpack tar.gz files on a 040 black cube. I have Opener but I
don't think it will work. Can I use a standard unix gunzip app to do
this? I am new to this so bear with me :)
Let me know,
Ver
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: moving from black to white... need new software
Date: 26 Apr 1996 20:34:47 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
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References: <4locag$7io@slider.bme.ri.ccf.org> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960425155139.2085B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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On 04/25/96, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
>On 25 Apr 1996 vesely@bme.ri.ccf.org wrote:
>
>> SciPlot -> is there an intell version?
>
>ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Science/mathematics/SciPlot.4.01.NIHS.bd.
tar.gz
>ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Science/mathematics/SciPlot.4.01.README
>
>> NewsGrazer -> old version is crashing more and more, is there a new
one?
>
>depends on what version you are calling 'old'
>
>> WarpIt -> a strange but very usefull app that I MUST replace!
>
>what is it and where'd you find it?
>
To add to Tim's recommendations
> ApsoftDraw -> no idea, need something badly!
SuperDraw from Impact Software - http://www.impact.com/
Create from Stone Design - http://www.stone.com/
both are infinitely better than Appsoft Draw, and are
supported.
> > NewsGrazer -> old version is crashing more and more, is there a
> > new one?
>
Uh, You are better of with Alexandra for free, Radical News
from Radical System Solutions (a beta of a yet to be commercial
product) or NewsFlash from wolfware (my favourite of the tree, also
commercial).
> ImageViewer -> anything that converts image formats? I can't
> figure out how to use OmniImage...
>
Is this Lennart's toy? If so, there is a version on NeXT's
WWW site that is intel compatible.
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From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: WebObjects doesn't run.
Date: 27 Apr 1996 01:17:12 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Message-ID: <4lrsio$iu8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960425124247.26837D-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:
I think it conflict with PPP in your system (It's a bug). Try uninstall
your PPP and it should work.
--KAI--
>Hello,
>I'm posting this to the newsgroup in the hope to get an answer prior to
>the NeXTanswers team and even because it's maybe a simple problem.
>I'm running NS 3.3 on Intel. I installed WebObjcts 1.0 and WebServer as
>well as the Foundation User Patch (NeXTasnwer 2117). I did a standard
>installation which means that everything went to /NextLibrary/. I use a
>single user machine, configured to run PPP connections as needed (this
>means that I added some hosts with hostconfig and added addtiional IPs as
>well as additional nameserver, but bring up the ppp link only by hand if
>I need it).
>Everything runs fine after starting the httpd as advised. I even can get
>output of e.g. test-cgi etc. However running WebObjects the _first_ time
>causes OmniWeb to load forever. Every access after this first run causes
>an immediate reply like: Did not receive response from application.
>So I can'r run WebObjects nor can I run any WO example.
>Any hints?
>Best regards,
> Boerny.
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From: mark zajac <mzajac@zajac2.phys.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: tell me why you love/hate co-Xists
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 09:57:38 -0500
Organization: University of Notre Dame
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Hi
I have a turbo slab with 24 MB RAM and I'm thinking about getting
Co-Xist (the X-windows emulator for NeXT) I'd like to take more
advantage of the software available throught the campus network of Sun
computers here at Notre Dame. I'd love to hear form anybody who thinks
that this is a good/bad idea.
I do a lot of work via remote login to machines that support X-windows.
Usually, the remote machine is a SPARC. The campus will be going over
to solaris soon. I can't see how this would afect co-Xist performance
on my NeXT but I'm willing to be corrected.
What are some of my favorite apps? Well, I'm using Mathematica, Matlab,
PV-Wave, frame maker, xv and netscape quite a lot. I'd prefer to work
on a (faster) remote machine and just use my NeXT like an X-term.
I've only got NeXTSTEP 3.0 on my slab and I hear that this can reduce
the effectiveness of Co-Xist. The co-Xist sales staff denies this of
course... Any comments?
If you've got some good advice, could you please send me and e-mail
(mzajac@zajac2.phys.nd.edu) NeXT mail? Of course!
Keep a song in your heart
[:-)] Mark
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From: "Christian Pekeler" <pekeler@luck.shnet.org>
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 96 10:01:36 +0100
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Subject: Re: Uae.app - Amiga Emulator for NeXTStep
Message-ID: <29791154@luck.shnet.org>
David Wetzel:
> I have Kickstarts in my A3000 (softkicked) can I just copy the file
> DEVS:kickstart?
No, because it uses the 68020 or higher and uae only emulates the
68000 and it doesn't like the format of the kickfile. I even tried
this with a kick 1.3 file and failed.
Also the rom-grabber of uae isn't able to grab softkicked romimages on
my A3000.
> Ist this emulator good?
Interesting but far to slow on my P100 32MB. Although it emulates
the hardware it fails in running my own old hardwarehitting demos.
> Where do I get this in Germany?
http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~crux/uae.html
Christian
From: par@MCS.COM (Peter Richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: How to unpack tar.gz files???
Date: 27 Apr 1996 09:15:41 -0500
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <4lta6d$lm7@Mars.mcs.com>
References: <ver65osc-2604961213470001@physlab4.sjsu.edu>
ver (ver65osc@email.sjsu.edu) wrote:
: I need to unpack tar.gz files on a 040 black cube. I have Opener but I
: don't think it will work. Can I use a standard unix gunzip app to do
: this? I am new to this so bear with me :)
First, Yes opener.app should handle this file.
Second, you are 1/2 correct. gunzip will take XXX.tar.gz and output
XXX.tar Now you need to use "tar -xf XXX.tar" to extract the files
from the tar file.
Hope this helps
Peter Richardson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jgloede@interpc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: Does anyone have VideoStream compiled for m68k NS3.3?
Message-ID: <DqILvK.49@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
References: <4lp019$rj8@usc.edu>
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 09:47:43 GMT
someone wrote:
> Well VideoStream seems quite important considering how much avi
> use there is.
Well, and again: AVI IS NOT A CERTAIN FORMAT :-()
There are between 18725 and 53994 different AVI formats out there.
This problem CAN'T be solved by a generic AVI capable app or driver,
AVI only describes file format but does say NOTHING about used
compression. If it is not something very generic like jpg or raw
bitmaps you won't be able to decode it.
A certain line in the AVI header tells you what CODEC to use,
in the most cases this can be covered with the VfW libs, but
sometimes you need vendor specific DLL's.
Both are hardly available on NEXTSTEP.
BTW: the same with QuickTime(TM) and NEXTIME(TM)
We do write NEXTIME movies you won't be able to play back them
as long as you don't install our module.
so long,
jens ch. gloede
- interpersonal-computing -
From: frsvnsvn@shellx.best.com (Kurt Werle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: calendar programs
Date: 27 Apr 1996 12:35:55 -0700
Organization: Best Internet Communications
Message-ID: <4ltsur$nba@shellx.best.com>
References: <4lj585$tba@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
In article <4lj585$tba@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>,
Beth C. Gladen <gladen@linus.niehs.nih.gov> wrote:
>We have black hardware but will soon be switching to white. I use
>Cassandra as my calendar program. I suspect it does not work on white as
>it is too old (the version I have, 1.5 v28, is dated January 1992). If
>I'm wrong, please let me know. Otherwise, what calendar programs are
>available?
The most recent version of KFC is (and will be) available at
ftp://ftp.best.com/pub/frsvnsvn/KFC.tar.gz
I have recently become inspired to make a few tweaks and improvements, and
will soon release this slightly improved version (say, in a two week
timeframe).
Kurt
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From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: How to unpack tar.gz files???
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 21:16:49 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Apr27.211649.8273@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <4lta6d$lm7@Mars.mcs.com>
In article <4lta6d$lm7@Mars.mcs.com> par@MCS.COM (Peter Richardson)
writes:
> ver (ver65osc@email.sjsu.edu) wrote:
> : I need to unpack tar.gz files on a 040 black cube. I have Opener but
I
> : don't think it will work. Can I use a standard unix gunzip app to do
> : this? I am new to this so bear with me :)
>
> First, Yes opener.app should handle this file.
>
> Second, you are 1/2 correct. gunzip will take XXX.tar.gz and output
> XXX.tar Now you need to use "tar -xf XXX.tar" to extract the files
> from the tar file.
Except that Opener will open the .tar file, which is regsitered to Opener,
which will extract the tar and open the directory it creates. YMMV, of
course.
Paul
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From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: A question (re popOver-procmail-formail-appnmail) of error messages and lockfiles???
Date: 27 Apr 1996 23:06:44 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-03.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4lu9a4$qqa@usc.edu>
A question (re popOver-procmail-formail-appnmail) of error messages and
lockfiles???
The following is a sample of error messages I've been getting. I don't think
I am actually losing any mail, but I am gaining duplicate mail in my /tmp
directory. I would be grateful for some pointers where to look for problems.
TOC of my situation:
* I use a csh script to call popOver to get mail off POP3 server and route
it into procmailrc (#1 below)
* I have an /etc/procmailrc which is linked to my ~/.procmailrc (#2 below)
* A representative sample of the error messages I receive in my "from" file
(#3 below)
* Mail filenames that I'm finding a lot of in /tmp (#4 below)
Thanks very much in advance, tho not too much in advance 8-)
#1) Begin csh script to run popOver and then process through procmail
=================
#!/bin/csh -f
/bin/rm -rf /tmp/mail/* && /bin/rm -rf /tmp/mail
mkdirs /tmp/mail/
popOver
if (( -f /tmp/mail/reichman )) then
chmod 755 /tmp/mail
formail -s procmail -m /Users/reichman/.procmailrc < /tmp/mail/reichman
endif
========End csh script
=========================================================
#2) Begin procmailrc
============================================================
# A sample small $HOME/.procmailrc:
# need to add a script to clean up the LOGFILE
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mailboxes
DEFAULT=/usr/spool/mail/reichman
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from
# prevent duplicate messages
:0 Wh: msgid.lock
|formail -D 8192 msgid.cache
#:0:
#* ^To:.*reichman@scf.usc.edu*
#|appnmail /Users/fey/Mailboxes/fey
:0:
* ^Subject:.Fey-*
|appnmail /Users/fey/Mailboxes/Fey
:0:
* ^To:.*procmail@Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE*
|appnmail /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/Procmail
:0:
* ^Resent-From:.procmail@Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE
|appnmail /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/Procmail
:0:
* ^Resent-Sender:.procmail-request@Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE
|appnmail /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/Procmail
:0:
* ^Resent-Sender:.*procmail-request@Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE*
|appnmail /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/Procmail
:0:
* ^Resent-From:.*procmail@Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE*
|appnmail /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/Procmail
:0:
* ^To:.*nextppp@chinx1.thoughtport.com*
|appnmail /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/PPP
:0:
* ^To:.*stamper-support@itconsult.co.uk*
|appnmail /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/Stamper
:0:
* ^To:.*skey-users*
|appnmail /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/S-Key
:0:
* ^Cc:.*skey-users*
|appnmail /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/S-Key
:0
*
(^Subject:.request_PGP*|^Subject:.request_pgp*|^Subject:.REQUEST_PGP*|^Subject:.Request_pgp*|^Subject:.Request_PGP*)
{
:0 c
| (cd /mailback/Apps/MAILBACK.app; ./MBServer )
:0
|appnmail PGPrequest
}
========End procmailrc
========================================================
#3) Begin example errors reported in my /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/from
===============
formail: Couldn't openprocmail: Couldn't determine implicit lockfile from
"appnmail"
From PopOver Fri Apr 26 14:09:08 1996
Subject: Re: Need Help with Message Body Filtering using AND/OR, Nested If
con
Folder: appnmail /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/Procmail 2427
formail: Couldn't openprocmail: Couldn't determine implicit lockfile from
"appnmail"
From PopOver Fri Apr 26 13:51:23 1996
Subject: Re: How do you "unsubscribe?"
Folder: appnmail /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/Procmail 1690
formail: Couldn't openprocmail: Couldn't determine implicit lockfile from
"appnmail"
From PopOver Fri Apr 26 13:53:42 1996
Subject: Re: Need Help with Message Body Filtering using AND/OR, Nested If
con
Folder: appnmail /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/Procmail 4491
formail: Couldn't openprocmail: Couldn't determine implicit lockfile from
"appnmail"
From PopOver Fri Apr 26 14:04:38 1996
Subject: Script problem - "skipped" and store/forward problems
Folder: appnmail /Users/reichman/Mailboxes/Procmail 11530
formail: Couldn't openprocmail: Couldn't determine implicit lockfile from
"appnmail"
formail: Couldn't openformail: Couldn't openprocmail: Couldn't determine
implicit lockfile from "appnmail"
formail: formail: Couldn't open
=======End example errors ===========================================
#4) Mail filenames that I'm finding a lot of in /tmp ===============
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:07 .reichman.PopOver.1095
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:10 .reichman.PopOver.1107
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:13 .reichman.PopOver.1117
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:16 .reichman.PopOver.1174
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:20 .reichman.PopOver.1206
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:23 .reichman.PopOver.1228
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:26 .reichman.PopOver.1255
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:29 .reichman.PopOver.1277
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:33 .reichman.PopOver.1296
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:36 .reichman.PopOver.1318
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:47 .reichman.PopOver.1378
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:50 .reichman.PopOver.1405
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:54 .reichman.PopOver.1413
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 20:57 .reichman.PopOver.1424
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 21:00 .reichman.PopOver.1433
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 21:04 .reichman.PopOver.1440
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 21:07 .reichman.PopOver.1458
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 0 Apr 26 16:28 .reichman.PopOver.700
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 1686 Apr 26 14:49 Mail-000276
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 1702 Apr 26 20:12 Mail-000806
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 3177 Apr 26 16:12 Mail-a00276
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 13697 Apr 26 21:07 Mail-a00806
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 12953 Apr 27 00:40 Mail-b00806
-rw------- 1 reichman wheel 12991 Apr 27 13:19 Mail-c00806
=======End example errors ===========================================
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
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From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Strange Characters in my MIME mail output???
Date: 28 Apr 1996 02:15:01 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-49.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4lukb5$gih@usc.edu>
Strange Characters in my MIME mail output???
What is causing all those numbers to appear on the first line of the body of
a MIME message created in Mail.app? Is this Mail.app sending out (which I
think so because I got some complaints)? Or is it incoming through procmail
(which I don't think so)?
================
From: "Matthew N. Reichman" <reichman@usc.edu>
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 96 19:09:49 -0700
To: reichman@usc.edu
Subject: what is this MIME crap?
Company: : Como me Gusta productions
040b747970656473747265616d8103a2840163c4840373737381f5f4811313810b0b84012584077f411b31322d34
Therefore this if the first line?
---
===================
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
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From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: How to unpack tar.gz files???
Date: 27 Apr 1996 13:11:18 GMT
Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany
Message-ID: <4lt6dm$4h@nexusgate.tng.oche.de>
References: <ver65osc-2604961213470001@physlab4.sjsu.edu>
ver65osc@email.sjsu.edu (ver) wrote:
>I need to unpack tar.gz files on a 040 black cube. I have Opener but I
>don't think it will work. Can I use a standard unix gunzip app to do
>this? I am new to this so bear with me :)
For me, Opener.app (version 3.1.3a) works just perfect on this. If you want
to do it manually, try:
gunzip archive_to_unpack.tar.gz
tar -xvf archive_to_unpack.tar
Or, if you own gnutar:
gnutar -xzvf archive_to_unpack.tar.gz
the archive is in both cases unpacked to the actual directory.
Michael
--
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Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 (neue Rufnummer!)
Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
PGP : Public Key on demand
From: John McPherson <mcphersj@sojourn.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: FOR SALE ($2000) : NSFIP 3.3 User, Developer, and EOF commercial versions
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 23:59:12 -0400
Organization: Sojourn Systems, Lansing, MI (USA)
Message-ID: <3182ED10.2C6B@sojourn.com>
References: <317C0D17.7719@ftp.test.com> <317C0DAA.55C@sojourn.com> <317EE46B.426E@sojourn.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
John McPherson wrote:
>
> FOR SALE:
>
> NeXTstep 3.3 User (Commercial version) $799.00
> NeXTstep 3.3 Developer (Commercial version) $4999.00
> NeXTstep EOF (Commercial version) $499.00
> --------
> (Total) $6297.00 value (Obviously this is not the asking
> price...)
>
> These are being sold as on package. I am also including for free the book NEXTSTEP PROGRAMMING
>Step One: Object Oriented Programming by Garfinkel and Mahoney. In addition, I will be including 3
>OPENSTEP video tapes, a NeXT Vs. Sun video tape, and The NeXT Advantage video tape. I have
>installed this only once. All the manuals are 'like new!'
>
> Please send mailto://mcphersj@sojourn.com
>
> I intend to sell this quickly!
>
> Thanks!
From: alanf@izzy.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Network-Backup on Black NeXT ?
Date: 28 Apr 1996 03:50:23 GMT
Organization: Isthmus Corporation, Inc.
Message-ID: <4luptv$t2m@izzy4.izzy.net>
References: <4lncaf$p0p@news.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
Keywords: Network Backup, amanda, NEXTSTEP
You may want to look at "amanda", a public domain backup utility. There
is a hack of the config files to support NEXTSTEP. It can back up an
entire network of UNIX systems, although I'm having some problems with
Ultrix at the moment. Amanda is available from the University of Maryland.
-Alan Frabutt
alanf@izzy.net
In article <4lncaf$p0p@news.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>
gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
> sappenz@pi1.informatik.uni-mannheim.de (Soeren Appenzeller) wrote:
> [...]
> >The only commercial solution I know is "Savety-Net". But Savety-Net
can't
> >backup remote Filesystems (they have to be mounted on the
Back-up-Machine...).
> [...]
>
> SafetyNet Pro can back up NFS mounted file systems.
>
> Gerhard.
> Private: gemoe@proximus.north.de NeXTmail & MIME
> Uni: Gerhard.Moeller@Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE
>
> "Wanna make your old 386 as fast as a Pentium???
> Try running Win95 (on the Pentium...)" -- Arash
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Does anyone have VideoStream compiled for m68k NS3.3?
Date: 28 Apr 1996 06:39:31 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-49.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4lv3r3$u8@usc.edu>
References: <4lp019$rj8@usc.edu> <DqILvK.49@interpc.de>
Cc: jgloede@interpc.de
In <DqILvK.49@interpc.de> Jens Ch. Gloede wrote:
> someone wrote:
> > Well VideoStream seems quite important considering how much avi
> > use there is.
>
> Well, and again: AVI IS NOT A CERTAIN FORMAT :-()
>
> There are between 18725 and 53994 different AVI formats out there.
> This problem CAN'T be solved by a generic AVI capable app or driver,
> AVI only describes file format but does say NOTHING about used
> compression. If it is not something very generic like jpg or raw
> bitmaps you won't be able to decode it.
Does that mean that there is little hope of viewing avis if they are not made
with the same program you are viewing them with?
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
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---------------------------------------------------------------
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From: mikecam@unixg.ubc.ca (Michael C. Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Canon OS41's Power Mangement System
Date: 28 Apr 1996 07:30:35 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4lv6qr$ke1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
Hi,
Has anyone been able to get Canon's PMS working with NS3.3?
I had it working with 3.2 but for some reason it doesn't work with 3.3.
Thanks in advance, ...Mike.
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From: deniseh@nntp.best.com (Denise Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: How to unpack tar.gz files???
Date: 28 Apr 1996 09:00:45 GMT
Organization: Best Internet Communications
Message-ID: <4lvc3t$irb@nntp1.best.com>
References: <ver65osc-2604961213470001@physlab4.sjsu.edu>
ver (ver65osc@email.sjsu.edu) wrote:
: I need to unpack tar.gz files on a 040 black cube. I have Opener but I
: don't think it will work. Can I use a standard unix gunzip app to do
: this? I am new to this so bear with me :)
??? Why don't you think it will work? What version of Opener do you
have? Version 3.3 (April 1995) is the latest, and I recommend you get it
if it's not the one you have. It has several fewer bugs and a fair bit
more functionality than some earlier versions, such as the 3.1.3a that
Michael Pieper suggested. (Hi Mike!)
Denise
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Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de>
Subject: Re: A question (re popOver-procmail-formail-appnmail) of error messages and lockfiles???
In-Reply-To: reichman@usc.edu's message of 27 Apr 1996 23:06:44 GMT
Message-ID: <7xg29okn52.fsf@burrow.muc.de>
To: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de
Organization: hardly any...
References: <4lu9a4$qqa@usc.edu>
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 22:19:06 GMT
>>>>> "MNR" == Matthew N Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> writes:
MNR> A question (re popOver-procmail-formail-appnmail) of error
MNR> messages and lockfiles???
MNR> The following is a sample of error messages I've been
MNR> getting. I don't think I am actually losing any mail, but I
MNR> am gaining duplicate mail in my /tmp directory. I would be
MNR> grateful for some pointers where to look for problems.
[deletia]
MNR> formail: Couldn't openprocmail: Couldn't determine implicit
MNR> lockfile from "appnmail"
Remove the trailing : from the openening zero of your procmail
recipies. appnmail does its own locking. (Carl Edman (the author of
appnmail) pointed this out to me when I ran into similar problems.)
hth,
markus g a/k/a the mole
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From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Re: Preference Clock MESSED UP
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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 02:50:12 GMT
>From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)>Subject: Re: Preference Clock MESSED UP
>Date: 28 Apr 1996 21:20:48 GMT
>
>A number of people have complained on the net about how much of a
>pain it is to keep resetting the date and time when alternately
>booting between NS and toy operating systems.
>
>My preferred advice (only partly facetious) is:
> "Then stop booting the toy OS."
>
>I realize that this is not a workable solution for some people.
>So I'm providing this software to ease the pain of those who
>chronically suffer from Windows.
>
>This software works by intercepting calls to reboot and halt. When
>/usr/etc/reboot or /usr/etc/halt are executed, a copy of timeshift
>is run instead. The fake reboot and halt code first determines
Here is a related question: When I put my laptop to sleep, the system clock
also sleeps, which is not what one would want it to do. The hardware clock
is still ticking, because the laptop was built for Windows. The problem is
that the Unix system clock only checks the hardware clock when booting. I
have searched the docs for some system call that would check the hardware
clock (and that I could run from a script), but not been able to find one.
I guess this should have been built into the APM driver, but perhaps it is a
difficult problem?
---
Magnus Nordborg
Department of Ecology & Evolution
The University of Chicago
1101 E. 57th St.
Chicago, IL 60637-1573
USA
magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (NeXT Mail, MIME)
+1.312.702-1093 phone (lab)
+1.312.667-5331 phone (home)
+1.312.702-9740 fax
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 29 Apr 1996 04:15:12 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4m1fog$kcg@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
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ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
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ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
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ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
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From: michael@mmgraph.com (Michael Rutchik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon OS41's Power Mangement System
Date: 29 Apr 1996 06:22:29 GMT
Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4m1n75$o8b@nntp.crl.com>
References: <4lv6qr$ke1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
In <4lv6qr$ke1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Michael C. Cam wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone been able to get Canon's PMS working with NS3.3?
> I had it working with 3.2 but for some reason it doesn't work with 3.3.
I never got it to work once I upgraded to 3.3 either.
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From: drinke@apts120.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New HD & fstab
Date: 28 Apr 1996 00:14:58 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <4luda2$10d@mordred.gatech.edu>
I just put a new HD in my ol' NeXT Cube running NS3.1. Mounted fine,
initialized fine, etc. However, the hard drive won't automatically mount upon
bootup. I changed my /etc/fstab to look like this:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /hd2 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
That didn't do it. So I figure its a NetInfo thing, so I did
'niload fstab .' and typed in the same thing. Still nothing.
BTW, issuing the command 'mount /dev/sd1a /hd2' works just dandy, but I
don't want to have to do that everytime I boot.
What am I missing?
Thanks,
--Dave
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Correctional Institute of Technology -- Atlanta, Georgia 30332
Computer Science Undergraduate
NeXTmail: drinke@cc.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt2780a
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New HD & fstab
Date: 29 Apr 1996 11:11:09 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Sender: reichman@comserv-f-67.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4m284d$mla@usc.edu>
References: <4luda2$10d@mordred.gatech.edu>
Cc: drinke@apts120.residence.gatech.edu
In <4luda2$10d@mordred.gatech.edu> Dave Rinker wrote:
> I just put a new HD in my ol' NeXT Cube running NS3.1. Mounted fine,
> initialized fine, etc. However, the hard drive won't automatically mount
upon
> bootup. I changed my /etc/fstab to look like this:
> /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
> /dev/sd1a /hd2 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
The correct line to automatically mount the second harddrive:
/dev/sd1a /hd2 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
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NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
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From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: How to unpack tar.gz files???
Date: 28 Apr 1996 18:34:00 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4m0dmo$3v@news.its.com>
References: <ver65osc-2604961213470001@physlab4.sjsu.edu>
ver65osc@email.sjsu.edu (ver) wrote:
> I need to unpack tar.gz files on a 040 black cube. I have Opener but I
> don't think it will work. Can I use a standard unix gunzip app to do
> this? I am new to this so bear with me :)
Opener (at least modern revisions) understands .tar.gz.
Or, yes, the the standard unix gzip package from
ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/gzip-1.2.4.tar compiles under NEXTSTEP just
fine.
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: 3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: How to unpack tar.gz files???
Date: 29 Apr 1996 13:10:44 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
Message-ID: <4m2f4k$srb@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
References: <ver65osc-2604961213470001@physlab4.sjsu.edu>
ver (ver65osc@email.sjsu.edu) wrote:
: I need to unpack tar.gz files on a 040 black cube. I have Opener but I
: don't think it will work.
I would suggest using Opener as it makes using all kinds of packed files
(including .tar.gz) really easy. BTW why haven't you tried to use Opener
before posting here?
: Can I use a standard unix gunzip app to do
: this? I am new to this so bear with me :)
You could type gtar xvzf <.tar.gz filename> in a Terminal.app window.
This calls gtar, the GNU version of tar, and uses gunzip to unpack
the file first.
Eberhard
From: david@pfi.ibk.baum.ethz.ch (David C. EKCHIAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: displaying Greek Web pages in OmniWeb
Date: 29 Apr 1996 13:22:58 GMT
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4m2fri$ks2@elna.ethz.ch>
References: <4ln9m2$4i8@marcon.marcon.de>
> I have problems displaying Greek Web Pages in OmniWeb. Do I need special
fonts?
> Here is a small test page: http://www.onned.gr/greek/index.htm
Me too! And I have several greek fonts installed. You should ask the
Webmaster there:
Dimitris Siatiras <sysadmin@onned.gr>
David.
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o
_ /-;c
___ David C. EKCHIAN ______________________________________(@)#\(@)___
From: Carl Edman <cedman@princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: A question (re popOver-procmail-formail-appnmail) of error messages and lockfiles???
Date: 28 Apr 1996 13:19:10 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <4lvr8e$es2@cnn.Princeton.EDU>
References: <4lu9a4$qqa@usc.edu>
Cc: reichman@usc.edu
In <4lu9a4$qqa@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> Thanks very much in advance, tho not too much in advance 8-)
I can't solve all of your problems, but there is one repeated error in your
~/.procmailrc file.
This error:
> formail: Couldn't openprocmail: Couldn't determine implicit lockfile from
> "appnmail"
is caused by these lines:
> :0:
The final ':' causes procmail to do locking which it shouldn't as appnmail
already does the right kind of locking. You should introduce your recipes
with either ':0' only. Add a 'w' or a 'W' flag based on taste and
inclination.
Carl Edman
PS to all Mail 4.0 users: The stopgap fix for the NeXTmail Mail 4.0/appnmail
incompatibility is to create a link from /usr/bin/gnutar to
/NextApps/Mail.app/safetar.
Date: 29 Apr 1996 10:35:29 EST
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From: david@davidw.ftech.co.uk (david robert wainwright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wanted - French/Spanish tutorial software
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 15:29:13 GMT
Organization: Frontier Internet Services
Message-ID: <4m2n38$u0k@alpha.ftech.net>
Hi
Can any body recommend some good french and/or spanish language
software for adults. Preferably interactive, we are willing to pay a
reasonble price.
Cheers
Dave
From: cz@alembic.crystel.com (Chris Zach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Next color printer questions
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 28 Apr 1996 03:07:11 GMT
Organization: IEEE Computer Society
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4lund0$7jq@student.computer.org>
Keywords: Color printer cartridges
NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
I just picked up a Next Color printer from the Internet (amazing what you can
get by looking down a cable), and I have a few questions for the usenet
community.
First, the printer did not come with a manual. Drat. Is there anywhere I can
get one?
Second, when I printed a test page, it was obvious that some of the nozzles
are not working quite right. I ran it through a cleaning cycle, but on a
nozzle test the output still looked bleak. I then ran a second level test to
try and clean the nozzles.
At this point, the printer ran out of blak ink. Now it is stuck in the
cleaning mode, and I obviously need more ink.
The second question is where can I get cartridges for this printer? The FAQ
says to order BJI type carts, but I can't find them anywhere. Can I use
cartridges for the Canon BJC600? What is the equiv Canon printer for the Next
Color printer?
I have also heard that there is a driver that makes the color printer print
better. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of it?
Thanks for any info.
Chris Zach
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Expo Europe
Date: 29 Apr 1996 17:48:29 GMT
Organization: EMBL Heidelberg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4m2vdd$69v@lion.embl-heidelberg.de>
References: <4ll798$7kd@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
In article <4ll798$7kd@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes:
> Stefan Huelf (stefan@huelf.hamburg.com) wrote:
>
> : On 04/21/96, mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> : > Maybe you could come over
> : > for the NeXT Expo Europe?! ;-)
>
> : Is there going to be one ?? - When ?? ;-)
>
> There certainly won't be a _NeXT_Expo_ Europe ! Sic.
.. but perhaps OpenStep-Expo? Who knows....
--
Georg Tuparev
EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387305
Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517
D-69117 Heidelberg
Germany
Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
From: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OS 4.0 performance
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:47:50 -0700
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd.
Message-ID: <318500C6.37B7@mpr.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Can someone out there that is running the beta of OS 4.0 tell me what the
performance is like compared to 3.3.
Specifically for what I have:
I have a NextStation Color with a 1 Gig disk and 32MB of RAM
and a 120MHz Pentium with a 500MB disk and 32MB of RAM.
Any insight would be appreciated.
--
Scott Mewett
MPR Teltech Ltd. Burnaby, B.C.
mewett@mpr.ca ASCII Only
mewett@planeteer.com NeXTMail Welcome
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP
Date: 29 Apr 1996 17:53:16 GMT
Organization: EMBL Heidelberg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4m2vmc$6dm@lion.embl-heidelberg.de>
References: <4lgv44$kla@n1mep.mainstream.net>
In article <4lgv44$kla@n1mep.mainstream.net> peterson@media.mit.edu writes:
> I have the next PGP interface pgp.app, but where do I get the actual pgp to
> install?
>
>
> bill p.
>
> peterson@media.mit.edu
^^^
From MIT ;-) You are sitting on it ... so to say 8~)
--
Georg Tuparev
EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387305
Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517
D-69117 Heidelberg
Germany
Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
From: chaims <chaims@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: mkisofs
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 13:21:35 -0500
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <318508AF.1A84@ix.netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Has somebody succesfully compiled on nextstep a version of mkisofs?
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Next color printer questions
Date: 29 Apr 1996 18:58:50 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4m33ha$hb2@news3.digex.net>
References: <4lund0$7jq@student.computer.org>
cz@alembic.crystel.com (Chris Zach) wrote:
> NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
> I just picked up a Next Color printer from the Internet (amazing what you
can get by looking down a cable), and I have a few questions for the usenet
community.
The compatible ink cartridges are Cannon 800/820 cartridges. The cheapest
source I've found is:
Global Computer Supplies
1 800 845 6225
Fortunately they also carry no-name OEM replacements, and look at the
price: 13.65 for black and 14.99 for color.
Here are the stock numbers:
VC90145 - black
VC92632 - cyan
VC92633 - magenta
VC90146 - yellow
As for better printing, GSCorp has a driver for it:
http://www.gscorp.com/
http://www.gscorp.com/V2.0/Stories/Kheit/kheit_story.html
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Will 3.0 Appletalk work on 3.2?
Date: 29 Apr 1996 19:23:18 GMT
Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290
Message-ID: <4m34v6$1r0@goodnews.voicenet.com>
Does anyone know if the 3.0 Appletalk package will work on 3.2? If so,
can someone mail me that installer package?
Thanks!
-Darren
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: OS 4.0 performance
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <Dqn0qo.HFA@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 18:59:12 GMT
References: <318500C6.37B7@mpr.ca>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <318500C6.37B7@mpr.ca>, Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca> wrote:
>Can someone out there that is running the beta of OS 4.0 tell me what the
>performance is like compared to 3.3.
>
I'd say that any perforamnce seen on a beta is next to no indication of what
the performance of the finished product will be. I've seen some real stinker
betas (eg. OmniWeb) which were nice and happy once finished. Plus anyone who's
used it is under NDA. :-) Although, I've heard that a Color Turbo with PR2
feels like a Color non-Turbo under 3.3.
Just trying to avoid the bitching and moaning from last fall about the
performance of 4.0PR1.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: mkisofs
Date: 29 Apr 1996 23:06:55 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Message-ID: <4m3i2f$rjm@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
References: <318508AF.1A84@ix.netcom.com>
chaims <chaims@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>Has somebody succesfully compiled on nextstep a version of mkisofs?
Yes...
--kai--
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From: cz@alembic.crystel.com (Chris Zach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Will 3.0 Appletalk work on 3.2?
Date: 29 Apr 1996 23:20:13 GMT
Organization: IEEE Computer Society
Message-ID: <4m3ird$374@student.computer.org>
References: <4m34v6$1r0@goodnews.voicenet.com>
In <4m34v6$1r0@goodnews.voicenet.com> Darren Wright wrote:
> Does anyone know if the 3.0 Appletalk package will work on 3.2? If so,
> can someone mail me that installer package?
Nope. I tried it under 3.3. While the package did install without smoke and
flames, the preferences panel refused to come up under preferences (the icon
appeared, but a load of the code failed).
Ah well. Appleshare was kind of neat.
--
Time to take time
For Spring will turn to Fall
In just no time at all...
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Next color printer questions
Date: 29 Apr 1996 19:13:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4m3svd$9i@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <4lund0$7jq@student.computer.org>
cz@alembic.crystel.com (Chris Zach) wrote:
>NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE
>
>I just picked up a Next Color printer from the Internet (amazing what you
can
>get by looking down a cable), and I have a few questions for the usenet
>community.
>
>First, the printer did not come with a manual. Drat. Is there anywhere I can
>get one?
Someone posted a month or so ago about Bell Atlantic (Now called Decision
One) selling manuals for $15-16
>Second, when I printed a test page, it was obvious that some of the nozzles
>are not working quite right. I ran it through a cleaning cycle, but on a
>nozzle test the output still looked bleak. I then ran a second level test to
>try and clean the nozzles.
>
>At this point, the printer ran out of blak ink. Now it is stuck in the
>cleaning mode, and I obviously need more ink.
>
>The second question is where can I get cartridges for this printer? The FAQ
>says to order BJI type carts, but I can't find them anywhere. Can I use
>cartridges for the Canon BJC600? What is the equiv Canon printer for the
Next
>Color printer?
BJC-800, 820, 880
Lexmark 4079
and the Apple Color Inkjet all use the same cartridges.
Canon Part Numbers:
Black BJI-643B
Yellow BJI-643Y
Magenta BJI-643M
Cyan BJI-643C
GraphicUtilities (Generic) part numbers:
Black 54201
Yellow 54231
Magenta 54221
Cyan 54211
>I have also heard that there is a driver that makes the color printer print
>better. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of it?
try http://www.gscorp.com. The driver there (extraprint) is very nice
indeed, but it costs $250 edu.
--
Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS
Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
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From: Joseph McWilliams <mcwilljg@euler.sfasu.edu>
Subject: Pine for NeXT-Intel?
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960429205659.3147B-100000@euler>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 21:01:05 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Does anyone know if Pine/Pico has been ported to NeXT-Intel? The source
indicates Motorola but not Intel.
Joe McWilliams
From: "Dr. Jan Pedersen" <jan@indigo7.carb.nist.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help - NeXT step 2.1 bootable floppy !
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 22:49:31 -0400
Organization: CARB - Center for Advanced Research in Biotechnology
Message-ID: <31857FBB.167E@indigo7.carb.nist.gov>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Dear NeXT users,
Does anyone have a NeXT step 2.1 bootable floppy that they could spare
(please mail it by paper-mail), my old NX110 slab just went down and I
do not have a bootable fd. :(
A suitable acknowledgment shall go to the person who does so :)
-- Jan
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phone (301) 738 6205
FAX (301) 738 6255
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: psi@fortune.nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki)
Subject: Re: New HD & fstab
Message-ID: <DqnKLx.Az8@fortune.nest.or.jp>
Sender: psi@fortune.nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki)
Cc: drinke@apts120.residence.gatech.edu
References: <4luda2$10d@mordred.gatech.edu>
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 02:08:21 GMT
Hello, Mr. Rinker.
In <4luda2$10d@mordred.gatech.edu> Dave Rinker wrote:
> I just put a new HD in my ol' NeXT Cube running NS3.1. Mounted fine,
> initialized fine, etc. However, the hard drive won't automatically mount
upon
> bootup. I changed my /etc/fstab to look like this:
> /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
> /dev/sd1a /hd2 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
>
> That didn't do it. So I figure its a NetInfo thing, so I did
> 'niload fstab .' and typed in the same thing. Still nothing.
>
> BTW, issuing the command 'mount /dev/sd1a /hd2' works just dandy, but I
> don't want to have to do that everytime I boot.
You must change /etc/fstab following...
dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
dev/sd1a /hd2 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
"noauto" option make the disk ignore upon bootup.
If you want to more infomation,please see mount(8).
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PS: I wat at loss this point. So I didn't know the paper manual is wrong!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pirx.muc.de!fritz (Fritz Absmaier)
Subject: Re: New HD & fstab
References: <4luda2$10d@mordred.gatech.edu>
Sender: fritz@pirx.muc.de (Fritz Absmaier)
Organization: PIRX Software
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 08:05:16 GMT
Message-ID: <Dqo14s.2r1@pirx.muc.de>
In article <4luda2$10d@mordred.gatech.edu>
drinke@apts120.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) writes:
> I just put a new HD in my ol' NeXT Cube running NS3.1. Mounted fine,
> initialized fine, etc. However, the hard drive won't automatically mount
upon
> bootup. I changed my /etc/fstab to look like this:
> /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
> /dev/sd1a /hd2 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2
^^^^^^
Remove that option and it will work fine.
Greetings,
Fritz
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From: egeze@stage1.univ-lr.fr (Emmanuel Geze)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.oracle,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Using SchemaView of SchemaResearch
Date: 30 Apr 1996 09:03:49 GMT
Organization: Universite de La Rochelle
Message-ID: <4m4l1l$k4m@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr>
Keywords: Oracle, SchemaView,SchemaResearch,NextStep,EOF,Adaptor
Hi all,
I work with NeXTSTEP 3.3, EOF 1.1 and Oracle v7.0 or v7.2.
I would like use SchemaView product, but I'm problems with it.
Then I'd like know if there are people who use this application.
What do you do to install this product ?
I've already installed the Oracle 6 compatibility views but my problem is
always the same. When I launch SchemaView, I've this error message:
Table ACCESSIBLE_COLUMNS was not found. Do you have the Oracle 6
compatibility views installed? See file rdbms/admin/catalog6.sql
in the Oracle distribution.
But with sqlplus, I can see the table ACCESSIBLE_COLUMNS and I can fetch
it !!!
Now, I don't know what I can do.
Do you know another product which are the same functions ?
Any hints are welcome.
Emmanuel
email: egeze@cri.univ-lr.fr (NeXTMail, MIME mail)
From: wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: compiling pgp263is on intel 3.3 w. patch
Date: 30 Apr 1996 10:16:22 GMT
Organization: University of Regensburg, Germany
Message-ID: <4m4p9m$30r@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de>
Hi,
has anybody succeeded in compiling pgp263is on NS intel 3.3 with the
patch.
The linker keeps complaining about ld: Undefined symbols: _strdup
Please help.
Thank you very much in advance,
Wolfgang
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D-93053 Regensburg (MIME and NeXTmail ok)
Germany WWW: http://www.whu-koblenz.de/~wolfgang/
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OS 4.0 performance
Date: 30 Apr 1996 11:48:08 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Message-ID: <4m4ulo$vq2@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <318500C6.37B7@mpr.ca>
Scott Mewett (mewett@mpr.ca) wrote:
: Can someone out there that is running the beta of OS 4.0 tell me what the
: performance is like compared to 3.3.
It clearly blows 3.3 out of the water. It also does dishes and
takes the dog for a walk. Its way cool, you must have it.
Can we say NDA, folks? :-)
Chris
--
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// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
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From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help - NeXT step 2.1 bootable floppy !
Date: 30 Apr 1996 12:04:02 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Message-ID: <4m4vji$vq2@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <31857FBB.167E@indigo7.carb.nist.gov>
Dr. Jan Pedersen (jan@indigo7.carb.nist.gov) wrote:
> Does anyone have a NeXT step 2.1 bootable floppy that they could spare
> (please mail it by paper-mail), my old NX110 slab just went down and I
> do not have a bootable fd. :(
If you are absolutely desperate and don't find anyone else, I might
be able to generate one, I still have a small 2.2 harddisk sitting
somewhere and gathering dust. However,
a) This is an excellent oprtunity to upgrade :-)
b) if you have a 2.1 CD (otherwise the disk won't do you much
good anyway), a 3.3 bootfloppy should be able to kickstart it
just as well.
A bootimage of 3.3 can be downloaded from www.next.com (search
in NextAnswers). It contains instructions on how to build a
bootable floppy disk using any DOS PC.
> A suitable acknowledgment shall go to the person who does so :)
Howabout a Pizza? :-)
Chris
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From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OS 4.0 performance
Date: 30 Apr 1996 05:34:22 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4m48ou$3bh@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <318500C6.37B7@mpr.ca>
Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca> wrote:
> Can someone out there that is running the beta of OS 4.0 tell me
> what the performance is like compared to 3.3.
No, they can't.
For one, they are probably under non-disclosure agreements.
For two, they are not running the released version, they are
running the alpha or beta version. The useful information
would be how the final released candidate runs on your hardware,
and that question can't be answered until that final version
is released.
For three, you'd want to know how it performs for *you*,
not for *them*. There were people who thought NS-3.3 was
a dog, while others thought it was perfectly fine. The
difference turned out to be the color-depth you were
running at.
Of the three, the first one is probably the most important
one... :-)
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: crath@bnr.ca (Christopher Rath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: compiling pgp263is on intel 3.3 w. patch
Date: 30 Apr 1996 13:51:07 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Message-ID: <CRATH.96Apr30095107@bmerhe83.bnr.ca>
References: <4m4p9m$30r@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de>
In-reply-to: wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de's message of 30 Apr 1996 10:16:22 GMT
In article <4m4p9m$30r@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein) writes:
> The linker keeps complaining about ld: Undefined symbols: _strdup
Here's some code I keep around for just this type of situation:
#if defined(NeXT)
/**
* strdup() - Duplicate a string.
*
* Returns a pointer to a new string which is a duplicate of the
* string to which s1 points. The space for the new string is
* obtained using the calloc() function (see calloc(3C)).
*
* Parameters:
* [1] inStr - String to duplicate.
*
* Returns:
* Pointer to duplicated string; or NULL if an error occurred.
**/
char *strdup(const char *inStr)
{
char *outStr;
if (NULL == inStr)
{
outStr = NULL;
}
else
{
outStr = calloc((strlen(inStr) + 1), sizeof(char));
if (NULL != outStr)
{
strcpy(outStr, inStr);
}
}
return outStr;
}
#endif
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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Canon OS41's Power Mangement System
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 02:31:01 -0500
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <31847034.70E0@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <4lv6qr$ke1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>
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To: "Michael C. Cam" <mikecam@unixg.ubc.ca>
Michael C. Cam wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone been able to get Canon's PMS working with NS3.3?
> I had it working with 3.2 but for some reason it doesn't work with 3.3.
>
> Thanks in advance, ...Mike.
It's always worked fine on mine! It's version 1.0.5 on NS 3.3
ftp://ftp.its.com
has the object.station 41 drivers up (last were released August 95)
for FTP!
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Understanding is best learned via experience
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From: rdieter@mathlab44.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Pine for NeXT-Intel?
Date: 30 Apr 1996 13:35:11 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <4m54uf$s5d@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.960429205659.3147B-100000@euler>
In article <Pine.NXT.3.91.960429205659.3147B-100000@euler> Joseph McWilliams
<mcwilljg@euler.sfasu.edu> writes:
>
> Does anyone know if Pine/Pico has been ported to NeXT-Intel? The source
> indicates Motorola but not Intel.
It compiles easily for Intel too. Just modify the Makefile appropriately,
and you'll have pine on Intel.
--
Rex Dieter
Computer System Manager
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska Lincoln
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 17:46:40 -0500
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <318000D0.6BEC@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <4lgv44$kla@n1mep.mainstream.net>
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To: peterson@media.mit.edu
peterson@media.mit.edu wrote:
>
> I have the next PGP interface pgp.app, but where do I get the actual pgp to
> install?
>
> bill p.
>
> peterson@media.mit.edu
Make you electronic mail private, http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp
download PGP!
Here's some related links too:
Public Key Cryptosystems 2.0:
The Next Generation Introduction to ELIPTIC CURVES.
From my friend Mike Rosing
VERY ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY!
MATHEMATICIANS, LOOK HERE!
http://138.87.201.11/Eliptic.html
Privacy in your hands- where it belongs! Introducing
http://web.mit.edu/network/pgpfone
Phil Zimmerman's PGPfone for MAC OS and interoperable with Windoze
95 is now out! Works over Internet, LAN/WAN, ISDN or 14.4 kbps
Modem, switch to encrypted conversation on the fly with regular
voice calls!!!
Check them out!
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From: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Emacs.app and foreign characters
Date: 30 Apr 1996 15:01:30 GMT
Organization: Universite Laval
Message-ID: <4m5a0a$klm@athena.ulaval.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Greetings,
Does anyone know how to get foreign characters (with accents) in emacs.app ?
In edit.app, I just type alt-e e to get (\'e in latex), but emacs uses alt
as the meta key...
Thanks,
Antoine Gautier
reply to: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca
De'partement Ope'rations et Syste`mes de De'cision
Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration
Universite' Laval, Que'bec, PQ
http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/index.html
(418) 656-7066
From: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: compiling pgp263is on intel 3.3 w. patch
Date: 30 Apr 1996 15:56:17 GMT
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Message-ID: <4m5d71$o0u@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <4m4p9m$30r@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de>
In <4m4p9m$30r@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> Wolfgang Roeckelein wrote:
> Hi,
>
> has anybody succeeded in compiling pgp263is on NS intel 3.3 with the
> patch.
>
> The linker keeps complaining about ld: Undefined symbols: _strdup
>
> Please help.
>
> Thank you very much in advance,
>
> Wolfgang
>
There's a patch for this that should eliminate this problem. It should be
available from wherever pgp 2.6.3i is at. The patched version
calls itself pgp 2.6.3ia.
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Systems Administrator "For I am a Bear of Very Little
Department of Radiology Brain, and long words Bother
University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/
PGP KeyID = 1F9779FD or E37A1591 O-
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From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Adapting Postscript file for Next
Date: 30 Apr 1996 16:13:32 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Sender: Bruce Patton
Message-ID: <4m5e7c$5hd@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
I have a subroutine that generates a postscript file. I can read
it using the postcript reader on my Nextstation, but it lacks the
functionality of ps or eps files created by Next applications
such as Sciplot, etc. Where can I find information on what changes
I need to make to my ps generating subroutine so that the PS
(or EPS) file created will be more Next compatible?
Thanks in advance,
Bruce
bwp@engin.umich.edu
(p.s. I am not very familiar with PS features so the simplier
the solution the better)
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DDMViewer.app
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 10:29:42 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960429101802.5066E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Can anyone tell me what this app is for?
The copy in my /NextDeveloper/Demos/ is for Intel-only, and my
NeXTStation, quite obviously, isn't.
I also checked my 3.2 CD, and it is Intel-only there as well. Which leads
me to believe that
either
1) the app does something only someone on an Intel machine would want
(then why is it on my NeXT CD?)
or
2) NeXT screwed up and put the wrong arch on the CD
Anyone know?
TjL
--
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>>>> Please: No NeXTMail, use MIME for attachments <<<<
From: engj@u.washington.edu (Jimmy Eng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: web browser w/table support for nextstep 2.1?
Date: 30 Apr 1996 18:33:14 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Message-ID: <4m5mda$397@nntp5.u.washington.edu>
NNTP-Posting-User: engj
Does anyone know of a web browser that supports
the <table> tag that runs on nextstep 2.1 (for
a motorola box)?
Thanks.
- Jimmy
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From: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OS 4.0 performance
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 12:50:11 -0700
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd.
Message-ID: <31866EF3.42AC@mpr.ca>
References: <318500C6.37B7@mpr.ca> <Dqn0qo.HFA@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
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David Evans wrote:
> I'd say that any perforamnce seen on a beta is next to no indication of what
> the performance of the finished product will be. I've seen some real stinker
> betas (eg. OmniWeb) which were nice and happy once finished. Plus anyone who's
> used it is under NDA. :-) Although, I've heard that a Color Turbo with PR2
> feels like a Color non-Turbo under 3.3.
> Just trying to avoid the bitching and moaning from last fall about the
> performance of 4.0PR1.
>
> --
> David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
> Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
> University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
> Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
That's True ... It was amazing the difference in speed on the Final of Omniweb 2.0 ...Let's hope
that the same will happen with OS 4.0
From: alanf@izzy.net (Alan M. Frabutt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTIME error
Date: 30 Apr 1996 20:39:37 GMT
Organization: "Comshare Inc."
Message-ID: <4m5tq9$d1c@inet-prime.comshare.com>
I can't seem to run NEXTIME on my 'turbo... I get the following error:
Apr 30 16:12:51 blackbird NTServer[593]: Error loading
/LocalLibrary/NEXTIME/Components/NTMooVFileParser.bundle/NTMooVFileParser
Apr 30 16:12:51 blackbird NTServer[593]: rld(): fat file:
/LocalLibrary/NEXTIME/Components/NTMooVFileParser.bundle/NTMooVFileParser
offset: 90452 for cputype (7) cpusubtype (4)) not aligned on it's alignment
(2^3)
I couldn't find anything on NeXTAnswers, either. It worked fine on my old
NeXTStation. My current machine is a TurboColor (adb keyboard).
-Alan Frabutt
mailto:alanf@izzy.net
From: David <sacremon@access.mountain.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 4.0
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 20:31:51 -0500
Organization: Zippo
Message-ID: <31856D87.1CF@access.mountain.net>
References: <4lv145$9fu@info.itsq8.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
A NeXT sales rep., last week, told me that June was when they were
expecting to release 4.0.
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adapting Postscript file for Next
Date: 30 Apr 1996 22:04:29 GMT
Organization: ipc, U of Tuebingen, Germany
Message-ID: <4m62pd$5b5@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>
References: <4m5e7c$5hd@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
Cc: bwp@engin.umich.edu
In <4m5e7c$5hd@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Bruce Wayne Patton wrote:
> I have a subroutine that generates a postscript file. I can read
> it using the postcript reader on my Nextstation, but it lacks the
> functionality of ps or eps files created by Next applications
> such as Sciplot, etc. Where can I find information on what changes
> I need to make to my ps generating subroutine so that the PS
> (or EPS) file created will be more Next compatible?
Mhmm? I think you want Preview.app to allow to go to single pages and all
this...
Just make your PostScript document DSC conform by inserting certain comments
at certain places:
%!PS-Adobe-3.0
%%Title: bla % or whatever
%%BoundingBox: 0 0 600 800 % or whatever
%%Pages: 2 % or whatever
%%EndComments
%%BeginProlog
...[DOCUMENT PROLOG HERE]
%%EndProlog
%%BeginSetup
...[GENERAL SETUP HERE]
%%EndSetup
%%Page: 1 1
%%BeginPageSetup
...[PAGE SETUP HERE]
%%EndPageSetup
...[PAGE DRAWING HERE]
%%PageTrailer
....[NEXT PAGES HERE]
%%Trailer
%%EOF
For more information refer to the Adobe Red Book ("PostScript Language
Reference Manual") or Adobes tech notes.
Bye
Frank
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From: jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: compiling pgp263is on intel 3.3 w. patch
Date: 30 Apr 1996 21:59:47 GMT
Organization: Academic and Research Network of Slovenia
Message-ID: <4m62gk$5qg@cmir.arnes.si>
References: <4m4p9m$30r@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <4m5d71$o0u@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Cc: eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca
In <4m5d71$o0u@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Eugene Mah wrote:
> There's a patch for this that should eliminate this problem. It should be
> available from wherever pgp 2.6.3i is at. The patched version
> calls itself pgp 2.6.3ia.
I'm kinda embarrased to admitt... I don't have a compiler :( Could somebody
mail me binary PGP? I would love to have it... Next mail accepted.
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From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenWrite and Widows?
Date: 1 May 1996 00:17:03 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Sender: reichman@comserv-i-10.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4m6ahv$2sp@usc.edu>
Does anyone know if there's a way to have widow-protection in OpenWrite?
(I.e. to ensure that single lines of paragraphs do not get split off during
pagination?
Also, is there a FAQ for OW or a web-page for that?
TIA
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From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DDMViewer.app
Date: 1 May 1996 08:46:49 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4m78dp$j1t@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960429101802.5066E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Cc: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
In <Pine.NXT.3.93.960429101802.5066E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
> 1) the app does something only someone on an Intel machine would want
> (then why is it on my NeXT CD?)
is the right answer...
DDMViewer is a debugger from DriverKit, as you might guess from the icon. As
driver kit isn't applicable to black hardware, you don't need it. On SPARC
(and I expect HP) you get a DDMViewer as well.
Paul
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From: adachi@xnet.com (Kris Kasalo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HAIR LOSS?..JAPAN'S LEADING TREATMENT MAKES MINOXIDIL OBSOLETE...
Date: 1 May 1996 09:05:12 GMT
Organization: XNet - A Full Service Internet Provider - (708) 983-6064
Message-ID: <4m79g8$12k@flood.xnet.com>
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From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda)
Subject: Does a noncommercial Xmodem for NEXTSTEP exist?
Message-ID: <Dqq11E.H56@AWT.NL>
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 09:58:26 GMT
Well, the subject line says it all, so why waste bandwidth by repeating the
question here? After all we should all be careful about wasting bandwidth,
shouldn't we? ;-)
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Date: 1 May 1996 10:44:46 GMT
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From: drinke@apts120.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cube boots into single user mode only!?
Date: 1 May 1996 05:14:49 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <4m6s09$gso@mordred.gatech.edu>
So, I added this nifty new hard drive to my old cube got it all working fine
and I was happy.
Then, I decided I would reboot the system (don't ask why -- I just wanted to
make sure everything was working :)
It was booting along, and it got to the line 'root drive on sd0a' and then
prompted 'Enter hardware password:'. Weird.. So I typed it in and it
promptly dropped me into single user (root) mode.
Figured it was a problem with /etc/mtab, so I went into vi. The second hard
drive showed up, so I deleted it and tried to save it. No go, it refused to
write to disk. I checked, and apparently the root drive was mounted READ
ONLY!? So I issued 'mount -o remount /', deleted the /etc/mtab and put the
single entry:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota, noauto 0 1
Typed in exit, and it continued and booted perfectly. Problem is, it does
this EVERY time I boot now.
A friend of mine also running NS3.1 on a cube reported he had exactly the
same problem when he added a swap disk to the system -- he never solved it
either. Even after repeated reloads of the entire OS, the problem came back.
Oh yeah, I tried explicitly booting it using 'b sd(0,0,0)' (with no -s) and
still the same thing. Also, the message 'args: -sx' doesn't appear, so the
system should be booting multi-user.
Is this a bug of NS3.1, or is there some special thing I should look at?
Any insights would be appreciated!
Thanks,
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Institute of Technology -- Atlanta, Georgia 30332
Computer Science Undergraduate
NeXTmail: drinke@cc.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt2780a
From: jray@bigmac.ag.ohio-state.edu (John Ray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Kerberos server?
Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 10:25:36 -0400
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <jray-0105961025360001@fries.ag.ohio-state.edu>
I'm desperately seeking a Kerberos 4 server for NEXTSTEP (or A/UX, but I'd
prefer NEXTSTEP. Binaries would be fantastic, but packaged source that
actually compiles would be almost equally nice.
Thanks for any pointers,
John
From: root@noesis.zone.org (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pages.app, who supports it?
Date: 1 May 1996 11:15:46 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Message-ID: <4m7h52$t9b@news.cerf.net>
My Pages disks are currupted. Could
someone tell me from whom I can get new
disks, in other words who owns and
supports Pages now?
Please reply to murshid@noesis.zone.org
and murshid@unit.edu
Thank you
murshid
From: green@drachme.unice.fr (Green Charly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re:Device drivers for the NI GPIB/AT and GPIB/TNT cards
Date: 1 May 1996 16:32:14 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis
Message-ID: <4m83me$cj2@malibu.unice.fr>
Does anyone know where to locate device drivers for the National
Instruments GPIB/AT and GPIB/TNT cards running under NextStep system
release 3.3 for the pentium PC. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Chuck
----
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University of Nice
1361 Route des Lucioles
06560 Valbonne France
green@ecu.unice.fr
33 92967304
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Subject: Re: DDMViewer.app
Message-ID: <Dqpwr0.F9@hurka.UUCP>
Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka)
Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.)
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960429101802.5066E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 08:25:48 GMT
In article
<Pine.NXT.3.93.960429101802.5066E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
>
> Can anyone tell me what this app is for?
DDMViewer.app is used for driver debugging. DDM stands for Driver
Debugging Module. DDM provides support for viewing driver's debugging
information without disturbing the timing of the kernel. By using the
DDMViewer application (in /NextDeveloper/Demos), you can specify which
information should be stored in the event buffer and display debugging
information from this buffer.
> The copy in my /NextDeveloper/Demos/ is for Intel-only, and my
> NeXTStation, quite obviously, isn't.
>
> I also checked my 3.2 CD, and it is Intel-only there as well.
> Which leads me to believe that
>
> either
>
> 1) the app does something only someone on an Intel machine would want
> (then why is it on my NeXT CD?)
> or
> 2) NeXT screwed up and put the wrong arch on the CD
> Anyone know?
ASAIK, there is only one CD for Intel and Motorola architectures, only the
boot floppies are different.
Bye,
--
Tomas Hurka
tom@hukatronic.cz
NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: compiling pgp263is on intel 3.3 w. patch
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:47:07 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996May1.184707.20388@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <CRATH.96Apr30095107@bmerhe83.bnr.ca>
In article <CRATH.96Apr30095107@bmerhe83.bnr.ca> crath@bnr.ca (Christopher
Rath) writes:
> In article <4m4p9m$30r@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de>
wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein) writes:
> > The linker keeps complaining about ld: Undefined symbols: _strdup
>
> Here's some code I keep around for just this type of situation:
> #if defined(NeXT)
Here's the code that I use:
#define strdup(x) NXCopyStringBuffer(x)
Paul
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From: robin@pswtech.com (Robin Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: How to unpack tar.gz files???
Date: 28 Apr 1996 16:47:26 GMT
Organization: PSW Technologies
Message-ID: <4m07eu$m5r@digdug.pswtech.com>
References: <4lta6d$lm7@Mars.mcs.com> <1996Apr27.211649.8273@seer.demon.co.uk>
Cc: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk
In <1996Apr27.211649.8273@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch wrote:
> In article <4lta6d$lm7@Mars.mcs.com> par@MCS.COM (Peter Richardson)
> writes:
> > ver (ver65osc@email.sjsu.edu) wrote:
> > : I need to unpack tar.gz files on a 040 black cube. I have Opener but
> I
> > : don't think it will work. Can I use a standard unix gunzip app to do
> > : this? I am new to this so bear with me :)
> >
> > First, Yes opener.app should handle this file.
> >
> > Second, you are 1/2 correct. gunzip will take XXX.tar.gz and output
> > XXX.tar Now you need to use "tar -xf XXX.tar" to extract the files
> > from the tar file.
>
> Except that Opener will open the .tar file, which is regsitered to Opener,
> which will extract the tar and open the directory it creates. YMMV, of
> course.
Or, you could use 'gnutar' which will do both in the same pass. Try this:
gnutar -zxvf <file>.tar.gz
This will decompress _and_ extract at the same time. If you just want a listing
of files in the archive, you should be able to do:
gnutar -ztvf <file>.tar.gz
Which will give you a table of contents.
Hope that helps.
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From: vazquezr@physics.ucla.edu (Rick Vazquez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MiscKit
Date: 2 May 1996 02:25:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <4m96ea$1ba0@saba.info.ucla.edu>
Can someone please tell me where to get MiscKit from?
Thanks
Rick
From: cgw (Chad G. Wagner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: BBS Software?
Date: 2 May 1996 03:07:52 GMT
Organization: WorldGate Internet Access
Message-ID: <4m98u8$g1l@scanner.worldgate.com>
Are there any BBS programs for the NeXT?
Chad G. Wagner
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell)
Subject: Any VRML (or MovingWorlds) tools abailable?
Message-ID: <Dqq86I.2L3@euler.han.de>
Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:32:41 GMT
I could not find any pointers on the archives?
Would the Nextstep folks really have missed the beat?
Or intentionally skipped it?
A viewer to work with vrml 1.0 would do fine for the moment,
something for MovingWorlds (vrml 2.0) would be even better.
Please, any pointer welcome.
Juergen
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From: Ckmak & Duncan Mak <ckmak@hkucc.hku.hk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where can I get NeXTStep screenshots?
Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 18:26:04 -0700
Organization: Mak's
Message-ID: <318960AC.2E92@hkucc.hku.hk>
References: <4lv145$9fu@info.itsq8.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi!
Where can I get screenshots of the NeXTStep OS?
Duncan
From: gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de (Gerald Wildgruber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Emacs.app and foreign characters
Date: 02 May 1996 17:58:38 +0200
Organization: Apatheia Corp.
Sender: gewil@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <x7buk7nk29.fsf@ue801be.ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <4m5a0a$klm@athena.ulaval.ca>
In-reply-to: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca's message of 30 Apr 1996 15:01:30 GMT
To: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
In article <4m5a0a$klm@athena.ulaval.ca> antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) writes:
Does anyone know how to get foreign characters (with accents) in emacs.app ?
In edit.app, I just type alt-e e to get (\'e in latex), but emacs uses alt
as the meta key...
Thanks,
This is described in detail in the node "European Character Set Display" in
the emacs online help; it reads:
There are three different ways you can enter Latin-1 characters:
* If your keyboard can generate character codes 128 and up,
representing ISO Latin-1 characters, execute the following
expression to enable Emacs to understand them:
(set-input-mode (car (current-input-mode))
(nth 1 (current-input-mode))
0)
* You can load the library `iso-transl' to turn the key `C-x 8' into
a "compose character" prefix for entry of the extra ISO Latin-1
printing characters. `C-x 8' is good for insertion (in the
minibuffer as well as other buffers), for searching, and in any
other context where a key sequence is allowed. The ALT modifier
key, if you have one, serves the same purpose as `C-x 8'; use ALT
together with an accent character to modify the following letter.
* You can use ISO Accents mode. This minor mode is convenient if you
enter non-ASCII ISO Latin-1 characters often. When this minor
mode is enabled, the characters ``', `'', `"', `^', `/' and `~'
modify the following letter by adding the corresponding
diacritical mark to it, if possible. To enable or disable ISO
Accents mode, use the command `M-x iso-accents-mode'. This
command affects only the current buffer.
Hope that helps,
Gerald
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From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTIME error
Date: 2 May 1996 19:26:47 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4mb29n$ptu@news.next.com>
References: <4m5tq9$d1c@inet-prime.comshare.com>
In article <4m5tq9$d1c@inet-prime.comshare.com> alanf@izzy.net (Alan M.
Frabutt) writes:
> Apr 30 16:12:51 blackbird NTServer[593]: Error loading
>
/LocalLibrary/NEXTIME/Components/NTMooVFileParser.bundle/NTMooVFileParser
> Apr 30 16:12:51 blackbird NTServer[593]: rld(): fat file:
>
/LocalLibrary/NEXTIME/Components/NTMooVFileParser.bundle/NTMooVFileParser
> offset: 90452 for cputype (7) cpusubtype (4)) not aligned on it's
alignment
> (2^3)
Looks like it's installed for the wrong architecture (cputype 7 is an i386
family CPU) or the file is corrupted. You may want to re-install the
NEXTIME software from the CD.
Mike Paquette
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From: parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr (Park, Jeongyoung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: software like 'datascan' in Mac
Date: 1 May 1996 09:41:44 GMT
Organization: Seoul Nat'l Univ. Korea
Message-ID: <4m7bko$o3d@snunews.snu.ac.kr>
I want an application which is like 'Datascan' in Mac.
Using 'Datascan', we can know (x,y) value of point which we are
interested in if we assign origin,x-axis,y-axis,etc in the graph
(e.g. scanned image)
mail me,please.
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Will 3.0 Appletalk work on 3.2?
Date: Thu, 02 May 1996 14:21:40 -0500
Organization: Illinois State University
Message-ID: <31890B44.3D65@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <4m34v6$1r0@goodnews.voicenet.com> <4m3ird$374@student.computer.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Chris Zach wrote:
>
> In <4m34v6$1r0@goodnews.voicenet.com> Darren Wright wrote:
> > Does anyone know if the 3.0 Appletalk package will work on 3.2? If so,
You can buy a version that does work from
http://www.iptech.com
It's called Partner- pricey though
From: majka@next.com (Marc Majka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Cube boots into single user mode only!?
Date: 2 May 1996 21:03:50 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4mb7vm$qab@news.next.com>
References: <4m6s09$gso@mordred.gatech.edu>
In article <4m6s09$gso@mordred.gatech.edu>
drinke@apts120.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) writes:
> So I issued 'mount -o remount /', deleted the /etc/mtab and put the
> single entry:
> /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota, noauto 0 1
Very close, but not quite right. You should do:
mount -o remount /dev/sd0a /
and then edit /etc/fstab, not /etc/mtab. The entry should look like:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
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From: darwish@diderot.fre.jhu.edu (Milad Doueihi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Pop3d
Date: 2 May 1996 20:57:31 GMT
Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Message-ID: <darwish-0205961658220001@ip16.ppp.jhu.edu>
I have downloaded and followed all the instructions installing the pop3d.
When I try to connect from home to get my mail, I get the message that the
daemon came up halfway and then failed.
I would appreciate any help.
Many thanks in advance,
M.
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems with AM recording low volume message
Date: 2 May 1996 22:53:04 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <4mbecg$hg5@news.iastate.edu>
I recently came into a Zyxel modem, and have installed AM, Jolly and
Axel's really cool answering machine program. After a little floundering
on the installation, it works beautifully for voice, data, and FAX, with
one or two exceptions. The one problem seems to be that if the volume of
the incoming voice call is not very high (either because the person has a
soft speaking voice, or are on a funky phone) AM will drop the line.
I suspect this can be fixed by recompiling with a different choice of
parameters, probably the STIL_RES(?) but am unsure. Does anyone have any
experience or suggestions with this aspect of AM?
Thanks Jolly!
Tom
--
Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist
Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779
Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home)
Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov
Project Coordinator: Undergraduate Computational Engineering and Sciences
http://uces.ameslab.gov/
From: Jacob Nielsen <jacob@dannug.dk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Strange Characters in my MIME mail output???
Date: 1 May 1996 20:19:40 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <4m8h0s$ce@jnext.dannug.dk>
References: <4lukb5$gih@usc.edu>
reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote:
> What is causing all those numbers to appear on the first line of the body of
> a MIME message created in Mail.app? Is this Mail.app sending out (which I
> think so because I got some complaints)? Or is it incoming through procmail
> (which I don't think so)?
>
> ================
>
> From: "Matthew N. Reichman" <reichman@usc.edu>
> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 96 19:09:49 -0700
> To: reichman@usc.edu
> Subject: what is this MIME crap?
> Company: : Como me Gusta productions
>
> 040b747970656473747265616d8103a2840163c4840373737381f5f4811313810b0b84012584077f411b31322d34
> Therefore this if the first line?
I *think* it's because you have used a Pantone color somewhere in your mail.
Regards,
Jacob
--
Jacob Nielsen <jacob@dannug.dk>
http://www.dannug.dk/~jacob/
From: don@misckit.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: MiscKit
Date: 3 May 1996 05:41:51 GMT
Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <4mc6av$euq@news.xmission.com>
References: <4m96ea$1ba0@saba.info.ucla.edu>
vazquezr@physics.ucla.edu (Rick Vazquez) wrote:
> Can someone please tell me where to get MiscKit from?
ftp://ftp.thoughtport.com/pub/next/misckit/
is the canonical ftp location. If you want other sources
(other mirror ftp sites or CDROMs) you should look at the
web page detailing that info:
http://www.misckit.com/faq/WhereToGet.html
If that isn't good enough, and you're still having trouble
getting a copy, contact me directly and I'll do what I can
to help. (Note: if misckit.com is down when you try to
connect to the web page, try again. It will come back up!)
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com
<a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems with AM recording low volume message
Date: 3 May 1996 09:00:49 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Sender: reichman@comserv-h-02.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4mci01$1v3@usc.edu>
References: <4mbecg$hg5@news.iastate.edu>
Cc: tlm@ameslab.gov
In <4mbecg$hg5@news.iastate.edu> Dr. T. L. Marchioro II wrote:
>
> I recently came into a Zyxel modem, and have installed AM, Jolly and
> Axel's really cool answering machine program.
Where can one find these programs?
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: song@cs.purdue.edu (Chang-Hyeon Song)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem with new TeXview-gray for teTeX!!
Date: 3 May 1996 11:35:13 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <4mcr1h$n7b@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Hi. Finally it was released for public. I always wanted a anti-aliasing.
So I downloaded the TeXview gray. When I tried to open a dvi file, all I
am getting is busy hard disk activity for long time, then stop, and again
with hard disk activity.
SO I thought it might be newer version of teTeX that is working with this,
so I downloaded newest release of teTeX, and installed them.
But TeXview-gray does the same thing.
Can anybody tell me what is wrong with the newly released TeXview-gray?
Thanks in advance.
---
Chang Song (song@cs.purdue.edu)
From: drinke@apts120.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Cube boots into single user mode only!?
Date: 2 May 1996 23:14:37 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <4mbfkt$526@mordred.gatech.edu>
References: <4m6s09$gso@mordred.gatech.edu> <4mb7vm$qab@news.next.com>
Marc Majka (majka@next.com) wrote:
: In article <4m6s09$gso@mordred.gatech.edu>
: drinke@apts120.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) writes:
: > So I issued 'mount -o remount /', deleted the /etc/mtab and put the
: > single entry:
: > /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota, noauto 0 1
: and then edit /etc/fstab, not /etc/mtab. The entry should look like:
: /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
My /etc/ftab already has that entry:
/dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1
/dev/sd1a /hd2 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
Someone else also suggested I check out /etc/ttys, but it looks fine.
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Correctional Institute of Technology -- Atlanta, Georgia 30332
Computer Science Undergraduate
NeXTmail: drinke@cc.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt2780a
From: Jyakobi@visinet.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell
Subject: CyberChat // CyberChat // CyberChat // CyberChat // CyberChat
Date: 2 May 1996 22:24:51 GMT
Organization: VisiNet Internet Services
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4mbcnj$ol@kenya.visinet.ca>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Uae.app 0.5.3
Message-ID: <Dqu4nq.8K5@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 15:07:01 GMT
I've just uploaded the latest binary of Uae to pitcher.peak.org (0.5.3
in the submissions directory).
The main NeXT changes are that it no longer crashes (I hope) on some
graphics configurations. You can also get the Amiga keys from the 1 and
3 keys on teh keypad, when the joystick box is ticked.
This release is a clean compile of uae0.5.3 which has recently been
released. See http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~crux/uae.html
for generic instructions, and Source.
$an
Trailer: Check em out...
NXSpectrum - Spectrum Emulator
Owl - BBC Emulator
Uae - Amiga Emulator
FreeCell - Solitaire game
Boris - A juggling program
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Strange Characters in my MIME mail output???
Date: 3 May 1996 16:24:31 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Sender: reichman@comserv-h-02.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4mdbvv$1v3@usc.edu>
References: <4lukb5$gih@usc.edu> <4m8h0s$ce@jnext.dannug.dk>
Cc: jacob@dannug.dk
In <4m8h0s$ce@jnext.dannug.dk> Jacob Nielsen wrote:
> reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote:
> > What is causing all those numbers to appear on the first line of the body
of
> > a MIME message created in Mail.app? Is this Mail.app sending out (which I
> > think so because I got some complaints)? Or is it incoming through
procmail
> > (which I don't think so)?
> >
> > ================
> >
> > From: "Matthew N. Reichman" <reichman@usc.edu>
> > Date: Sat, 27 Apr 96 19:09:49 -0700
> > To: reichman@usc.edu
> > Subject: what is this MIME crap?
> > Company: : Como me Gusta productions
> >
> >
040b747970656473747265616d8103a2840163c4840373737381f5f4811313810b0b84012584077f411b31322d34
> > Therefore this if the first line?
>
> I *think* it's because you have used a Pantone color somewhere in your
mail.
Thanks, that's exactly what was the case.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
Date: 3 May 1996 17:22:04 GMT
From: jem@xpat.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell
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EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by jem@xpat.com.
See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19960503.21 for further details
From: tholland@dreams.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ethernet viewer for NeXT ?
Date: 3 May 1996 20:45:45 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY 12866
Message-ID: <4mdr9p$5v4@saims.skidmore.edu>
Hi,
Does a program exist for NeXT (black hardware {motorla}) which would allow
me to "view" (graphically) the netstatus. i.e. how busy the net is..?? I
once saw such a thing running on an SGI.
thanks for any help
A. Holland
Skidmore College
NeXT mail OK
From: batten@netbistro.com (S & D)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,rec.sport.paintball,alt.meditation.transcendental,alt.mindcontrol,alt.fan.shostakovich,alt.cascade,comp.sys.next.software,sci.systems,rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: Re: Oracle of Man
Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 04:28:02 GMT
Organization: Cyberstore Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <30cccc74.34736557@news.cyberstore.net>
References: <4a54m6$f62@shell02.ozemail.com.au> <moonlite-0612952101260001@192.0.2.1> <30cc6f96.253047169@news.teleport.com>
On Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:53:28 GMT, pdx4d@teleport.com (Kirby Urner) wrote:
>>>| Paul Phillips, owner of one of the largest IT companies in Australia,
>>>| has written a compelling book which is raising controversy and arguments
>>>| throughout the world. His disturbing and unnerving prediction is that we
>>>| are now close to a breakthrough in the race to give computers a conscious
>>>| intelligence. This will give them the ability to interface with human beings.
>>>| This giant leap forward brings the incredible possibility of being able to
>>>| "download" our whole psyche. This will include our personality, intelligence
>>>| and knowledge transfering into Technological Life Forms" or "TLF's", to give
>>>| ourselves eternal life.
>>>|
>>>| For further information, please visit our Web page on
>>>|
>>>| http://www.oracle_of_man.aust.com
>>
>
>How about uploading some intelligence first? Don't see much psyche worth
>downloading here.
>
>Kirby
>
>--------------------------------------------------------
>Kirby Urner "All realities are virtual" -- KU
>Email: pdx4d@teleport.com
>Web: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/
i can
From: batten@netbistro.com (S & D)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,rec.sport.paintball,alt.meditation.transcendental,alt.mindcontrol,alt.fan.shostakovich,alt.cascade,comp.sys.next.software,sci.systems,rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: Re: Oracle of Man
Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 04:28:06 GMT
Organization: Cyberstore Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <30ccccc1.34813038@news.cyberstore.net>
References: <4a54m6$f62@shell02.ozemail.com.au> <moonlite-0612952101260001@192.0.2.1> <30cc6f96.253047169@news.teleport.com>
i can
On Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:53:28 GMT, pdx4d@teleport.com (Kirby Urner) wrote:
>>>| Paul Phillips, owner of one of the largest IT companies in Australia,
>>>| has written a compelling book which is raising controversy and arguments
>>>| throughout the world. His disturbing and unnerving prediction is that we
>>>| are now close to a breakthrough in the race to give computers a conscious
>>>| intelligence. This will give them the ability to interface with human beings.
>>>| This giant leap forward brings the incredible possibility of being able to
>>>| "download" our whole psyche. This will include our personality, intelligence
>>>| and knowledge transfering into Technological Life Forms" or "TLF's", to give
>>>| ourselves eternal life.
>>>|
>>>| For further information, please visit our Web page on
>>>|
>>>| http://www.oracle_of_man.aust.com
>>
>
>How about uploading some intelligence first? Don't see much psyche worth
>downloading here.
>
>Kirby
>
>--------------------------------------------------------
>Kirby Urner "All realities are virtual" -- KU
>Email: pdx4d@teleport.com
>Web: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/
From: batten@netbistro.com (S & D)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,rec.sport.paintball,alt.meditation.transcendental,alt.mindcontrol,alt.fan.shostakovich,alt.cascade,comp.sys.next.software,sci.systems,rec.puzzles.crosswords
Subject: Re: Oracle of Man
Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 04:28:08 GMT
Organization: Cyberstore Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <30ccccfb.34871337@news.cyberstore.net>
References: <4a54m6$f62@shell02.ozemail.com.au> <moonlite-0612952101260001@192.0.2.1> <30cc6f96.253047169@news.teleport.com>
i can
On Mon, 11 Dec 1995 17:53:28 GMT, pdx4d@teleport.com (Kirby Urner) wrote:
>>>| Paul Phillips, owner of one of the largest IT companies in Australia,
>>>| has written a compelling book which is raising controversy and arguments
>>>| throughout the world. His disturbing and unnerving prediction is that we
>>>| are now close to a breakthrough in the race to give computers a conscious
>>>| intelligence. This will give them the ability to interface with human beings.
>>>| This giant leap forward brings the incredible possibility of being able to
>>>| "download" our whole psyche. This will include our personality, intelligence
>>>| and knowledge transfering into Technological Life Forms" or "TLF's", to give
>>>| ourselves eternal life.
>>>|
>>>| For further information, please visit our Web page on
>>>|
>>>| http://www.oracle_of_man.aust.com
>>
>
>How about uploading some intelligence first? Don't see much psyche worth
>downloading here.
>
>Kirby
>
>--------------------------------------------------------
>Kirby Urner "All realities are virtual" -- KU
>Email: pdx4d@teleport.com
>Web: http://www.teleport.com/~pdx4d/
From: lindsey@mallorn.com (Christopher Lindsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tell me why you love/hate co-Xists
Date: 4 May 1996 04:46:47 GMT
Organization: Mallorn Computing
Message-ID: <4menfn$ehg@shire.mallorn.com>
References: <3180E462.41C67EA6@zajac2.phys.nd.edu>
mark zajac <mzajac@zajac2.phys.nd.edu> writes:
>What are some of my favorite apps? Well, I'm using Mathematica, Matlab,
>PV-Wave, frame maker, xv and netscape quite a lot. I'd prefer to work
>on a (faster) remote machine and just use my NeXT like an X-term.
I haven't been able to successfully run Netscape 2.x on either an
m68k or hppa NeXTStep station running 3.2 or 3.3... Mathematica,
however, does work (there is a NeXT version too!)
Chris
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher Lindsey
Senior UNIX System Administrator
Wolfram Research, Inc. Mallorn Computing
http://www.wolfram.com/~lindsey http://www.mallorn.com/~lindsey
From: jacques.garbi@colombus.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Patches for Doom II on NS 3.3 ??
Date: 4 May 1996 17:32:39 GMT
Organization: Colombus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4mg4bn$kju@news.petrel.ch>
Hi,
I keep having problems with Doom II. It crashes a lot and usually
crashes the machine as well.
Are there any patches or new versions anywhere to be able to safely
run Doom II on NeXTSTEP ?
Thanks
--
Jacques GARBI
Colombus Inc.
Av. de France 33
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone : 011 41 21 661 16 76
Fax : 011 41 21 661 16 73
NeXTMail or MIME : jacques.garbi@colombus.ch
From: frank@aerre.it (Francesco Ferrara from ITALY)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.emulators.misc
Subject: Re: Uae.app - Amiga Emulator for NeXTStep
Date: Fri, 03 May 1996 18:19:10 GMT
Organization: Telnet - Italian Internet Provider
Message-ID: <4mdip3$blj@cleopatra.telnetwork.it>
References: <DpwMqE.7AC@isltd.insignia.com> <3174B545.5904@media.mit.edu>
"W. J. Peterson" <peterson@media.mit.edu> wrote:
>ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk wrote:
>>
>> I've just uploaded a fat binary of Uae for NeXTStep to pitcher.peak.org
>> (submissions directory).
>I downloaded this from "next-ftp.peak.org" and it
>seems not to work. I tryed it on two different
>machines, both Intel. The console says "Your amiga
>did something really stupid" also something like
>error 007.
>any ideas?
run it with "-s" option...
From: Mark Strand <marks@soli.inav.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: DDMViewer.app
Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 22:34:25 -0500
Organization: Internet Navigator, Inc.
Message-ID: <318C21C1.7F06@soli.inav.net>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960429101802.5066E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <Dqpwr0.F9@hurka.UUCP>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Tomas Hurka wrote:
>
> In article
> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960429101802.5066E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what this app is for?
[some stuff about DDMViewer deleted]
> ASAIK, there is only one CD for Intel and Motorola architectures, only the
> boot floppies are different.
>
Along that line, I was annoyed at the fact that the NeXTSTEP install put Configure.app into
/NextAdmin on my slab. This seems to be an Intel-only thing, or at the very least, something that
isn't appropriate for NeXT. At any rate, it puts the app on my NeXT and the icon with a big ? in
the middle as if it knows there's something weird (also the Inspector shows "" (nil) for Suitable
Architectures. Can I assume this is just a bug in the installation routine for NeXT?
> Bye,
> --
> Tomas Hurka
> tom@hukatronic.cz
> NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
From: Patrick Stein <jolly@joker.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems with AM recording low volume message
Date: 4 May 1996 08:59:24 GMT
Organization: joker
Message-ID: <4mf69c$52c@joker.joker.de>
References: <4mbecg$hg5@news.iastate.edu>
Cc: tlm@ameslab.gov
In <4mbecg$hg5@news.iastate.edu> Dr. T. L. Marchioro II wrote:
>
> I suspect this can be fixed by recompiling with a different choice of
> parameters, probably the STIL_RES(?) but am unsure. Does anyone have any
> experience or suggestions with this aspect of AM?
Yup, that's exactly what it's for. SILenceTREshold defines the normal
level of silence on your line. In case your line is noisier set it up -
otherwise
down.
You can test that by calling yourself ( don't talk ) and set it down until AM
doesn't switch to datamode after seven seconds.
--
bye bye - jolly
===================================================================
Jolly alias Patrick Stein jolly@joker.de
===================================================================
Pilot : " Say ..What's a mountain goat doing way
up here in a cloud bank ? " - g.larson
===================================================================
From: cph@next.com (Charles d'Harcourt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs
Subject: Re: WebObjects doesn't run.
Date: 5 May 1996 10:00:58 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4mhu8q$dj6@news.next.com>
References: <4lrsio$iu8@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
Actually, the know conflict with PPP was fixed after the Beta (thank you
beta testers), and 1.0 has been tested with PPP on NEXTSTEP and should
work in the configuration you describe.
To get more info on what's causing the problem you're experiencing, you
may want to turn on adaptor logging by creating a /tmp/logWebObjects file
and keeping an eye on the log in /tmp/CGIMessenger.log as you submit your
request (check out
http://www.next.com/Pubs/Documents/WebObjects/ServingWebObjects for more
info). Also, while you're developing an app, I would recommend starting
it by hand in a terminal window rather than letting it be autostarted by
the adaptor. Doing this will make it easier for you to restart your app
or view the output it generates.
C=
PS: You may want to post future WebObjects questions to
comp.sys.next.programmer, whose readers might have more experience with
WebObjects.
_______________________________________________________
Charles d'Harcourt, Web Group, NeXT Software, Inc.
cph@next.com, http://www.next.com/~cph
Not speaking on behalf of NeXT Software or Wonder bread.
kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong) writes:
>
> I think it conflict with PPP in your system (It's a bug). Try uninstall
> your PPP and it should work.
>
>
> --KAI--
>
> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm posting this to the newsgroup in the hope to get an answer
> > prior to the NeXTanswers team and even because it's maybe a simple
> > problem.
> >
> > I'm running NS 3.3 on Intel. I installed WebObjcts 1.0 and WebServer
> > as well as the Foundation User Patch (NeXTasnwer 2117). I did a
> > standard installation which means that everything went to
> > /NextLibrary/. I use a single user machine, configured to run PPP
> > connections as needed (this means that I added some hosts with
> > hostconfig and added addtiional IPs as well as additional nameserver,
> > but bring up the ppp link only by hand if I need it).
> >
> > Everything runs fine after starting the httpd as advised. I even can
> > get output of e.g. test-cgi etc. However running WebObjects the
> > _first_ time causes OmniWeb to load forever. Every access after
> > this first run causes an immediate reply like: Did not receive
> > response from application. So I can'r run WebObjects nor can I run
> > any WO example.
> >
> > Any hints?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Boerny.
> >
> > Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny)
> > scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/
> > scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
>
> email: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
> url: http://web.cs.mun.ca/~kwong/
From: nextjet@ids.net (German Gobel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: next color printer on a mac?
Date: Sun, 05 May 1996 10:12:44 -0400
Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (401) 885-4243
Message-ID: <nextjet-0505961012450001@dyn036a.mia-fl.ids.net>
Maybe it is impossible but so far I have been unsuccessful.I,ve downloaded
the apple color printer driver and when I print it gives me garbage.Any
help would
be greatly appreciated.
tia german gobel.
From: Mark Strand <marks@soli.inav.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where can I get NeXTStep screenshots?
Date: Sun, 05 May 1996 20:16:55 -0500
Organization: Internet Navigator, Inc.
Message-ID: <318D5307.4C92@soli.inav.net>
References: <4lv145$9fu@info.itsq8.com> <318960AC.2E92@hkucc.hku.hk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Ckmak & Duncan Mak wrote:
>
> Hi!
> Where can I get screenshots of the NeXTStep OS?
>
> Duncan
http://www.next.com/AboutNeXT/PressKit/ScreenShots.html
From: jmm@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Quotations not in NS 3.3?
Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 03:17:30 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan, College of Literature, Science, and the Arts
Message-ID: <960505221730.4486AABqR.jmm@reid.econ.lsa.umich.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Is it true that Quotations.app is not available in NS 3.3? (And that there
is not an NS 2.2 version that runs on Intel architectures?)
---
Prof. Jeff MacKie-Mason http://www.spp.umich.edu
Dept. of Economics internet: jmm@umich.edu
Univ. of Michigan phone: 313-764-7438
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220 fax: 313-763-9181
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 6 May 1996 04:15:13 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4mjuch$6k8@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: gladen@linus.niehs.nih.gov (Beth C. Gladen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: calendar summary
Date: 6 May 1996 12:57:45 GMT
Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
Message-ID: <4mkt09$4i8@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>
About two weeks ago, I asked about calendar programs, particularly for
white hardware. This is a summary of what I heard. Note our news server
has been down, so some posts may not have reached me. I heard about 3
programs.
Cassandra:
Free. Several versions exist on archives; the most recent one I heard
about (1.7a) is maintained by Garance A Drosehn. Source and binaries for
all 4 architectures are available at:
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/apps/Cassandra_f/
Chronographer:
Currently a free beta, will be commercial when final; beta lacks some
features which he is working on right now. Written by Dwight Everhart
(everhart@alterlife.com). Beta available at:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/Chronographer.0.71.NI.b.tar.g
z
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/Chronographer.0.71.HS.b.tar.g
z
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/calendars/Chronographe
r.0.71.NI.b.tar.gz
ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/calendars/Chronographe
r.0.71.HS.b.tar.gz
Pencil Me In:
Commercial. Personal and group scheduling. Runs on all four
architectures and OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach. Version 2.0 coming any day now.
Info from Liz Statmore (liz@sarrus.com).
Thanks to all for the information.
Beth Gladen, gladen@niehs.nih.gov
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: BBS Software?
Date: 6 May 1996 16:26:29 GMT
Organization: EMBL Heidelberg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ml97l$j2c@lion.embl-heidelberg.de>
References: <4m98u8$g1l@scanner.worldgate.com>
In article <4m98u8$g1l@scanner.worldgate.com> cgw (Chad G. Wagner) writes:
> Are there any BBS programs for the NeXT?
I was told there is one (but without GUI). I even had it somewhere...
--
Georg Tuparev
EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387305
Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517
D-69117 Heidelberg
Germany
Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
From: tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Updating GCC Issues
Date: 6 May 1996 18:18:16 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester MN
Sender: tgall@vorlon.rchland.ibm.com (Tom Gall)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4mlfp8$vp8@news.rchland.ibm.com>
Hi All,
I'm in a bit of a bind. I need a "better" C++ compiler under NeXTSTEP. I've
been thinking I'd go out and pickup something in the gcc 2.7.x range however
I've got some concerns.
Obviously NeXT extended some things in GCC. I'm sure they were back propagated
into gcc. But I honestly wonder if I pickup and build the newer GCC for
NeXTSTEP if I won't be asking for trouble...
Opinions? Observations?
Wait for 4.0?
Thanks!
--
Hakuna Matata!
Tom
import standard.disclaimer.*; |||| "Where's the ka-boom? There was
Tom Gall - Java Guy ____ supposed to be an earth
IBM Rochester \ /\ shattering ka-boom!"
(w) tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com \__/_/ -- Marvin Martian
(h) tgall@ibm.net ------
From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: slow system with Preference.app running
Date: 6 May 1996 18:50:44 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <4mlhm4$sa6@news.tamu.edu>
We have an intel system running NS3.3 with Patch1. The user left himself
logged in and left town for a week. When he returned, he found the screen
frozen and nothing responded. After turning the power off and rebooting
everything seemed to run fine except for one thing.
The system is a lot slower. The harddisk seems to get constantly accessed,
even though now apparent processes are running. I tried checking with the
ps command too. I remembered some discussion a while back about
Preference.app having some bugs in NS3.3. After quiting the Preference.app
the system immediately became more responsive. The cursor didn't change to
a spinning disk for a few seconds every time something got clicked.
anybody have any idea what is happing here? He said he tried rebooting and
starting it up fresh, but that didn't help either. I'm tempted to do that
again. Is Preference.app fixed with the Patch1 for NS3.3?
Any suggestions welcome....
HP
--
Hanspeter Schaub
Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant
Aerospace Engineering Department
Texas A&M University
http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub
schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY!
-Jonathon Livingston Seagull
From: frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Frank Burgbacher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NXFax and Fax Modem
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <31904527.0@news.uni-konstanz.de>
Date: 8 May 96 06:54:31 GMT
I want to connect a fax modem to my black nextstation. So I asked my local
dealer, what's necessary for it. Additionally to a fax modem, you need the
NXFax to make it work. So my question is: What is the purpose of NXFax? I
haven't found anything in the documentation that a third party product is
needed for a fax modem to work. If it is necessary, are there other programs?
Where can I find more informations on this topic?
Frank
frank.burgbacher@uni-konstanz.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: Executor/NS pre-beta registering
Message-ID: <Dr303F.n54@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <vmin.96May7185048@darkstar>
Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 10:06:51 GMT
> Date: Mon, 6 May 96 15:51 MDT
> Organization: ARDI email to news gateway
> From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews)
>
> ******* This section is for people who have not yet licensed Executor
******
>
> So until May 15, the licensing fee for new Executor licensees is:
>
> everyone else
> E/NS $199
>
> After May 15, the licensing fee for new Executor licensees is:
>
> everyone else
> E/D+E/L+E/NS $149
erm...
Do I spot some kind of flaw in the above?
Why is the NeXTStep price going DOWN, as of 15May? (not that I'm
complaining - just curious).
$an
From: paul@softland.demon.co.uk (Paul Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Documentation tools for NeXT?
Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 10:13:12 GMT
Message-ID: <319072de.328156@news.demon.co.uk>
Are there any good PD drawing programs for the NeXT? I mean programs
that use NextStep and not X programs. Also are there good LaTeX
implementations? Thanks.
--
Paul Taylor (paul@softland.demon.co.uk)
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Latest SoftPc Demo where?
Date: 7 May 1996 20:51:31 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <4mod4j$14n@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Where can I find the latest SoftPC-Demo?
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
Juergen Grieb ** 72119 Ammerbuch/Germany ** Tel. +7073 - 5118
e-mail: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail and Mime welcome
PGP-Key is available (please request it, so mail exchange will be safe)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Picard: Well, five-card stud, nothing wild - and the sky's the limit...
From: nick@bcog.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NXFax and Fax Modem
Date: 8 May 1996 17:13:28 GMT
Organization: Cyberstore Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4mqkno$kv3@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
References: <31904527.0@news.uni-konstanz.de>
Cc: frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de
In <31904527.0@news.uni-konstanz.de> Frank Burgbacher wrote:
> I want to connect a fax modem to my black nextstation. So I asked my local
> dealer, what's necessary for it. Additionally to a fax modem, you need the
> NXFax to make it work. So my question is: What is the purpose of NXFax? I
> haven't found anything in the documentation that a third party product is
> needed for a fax modem to work. If it is necessary, are there other
programs?
> Where can I find more informations on this topic?
>
> Frank
> frank.burgbacher@uni-konstanz.de
>
check the FAQ, www.stepwise.com, www.next.com
nick@bcog.com
From: nick@bcog.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Documentation tools for NeXT?
Date: 8 May 1996 17:12:16 GMT
Organization: Cyberstore Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <4mqklg$kv3@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
References: <319072de.328156@news.demon.co.uk>
Cc: paul@softland.demon.co.uk
In <319072de.328156@news.demon.co.uk> Paul Taylor wrote:
> Are there any good PD drawing programs for the NeXT? I mean programs
> that use NextStep and not X programs. Also are there good LaTeX
> implementations? Thanks.
>
Check the FAQ, www.stepwise.com, and www.next.com
nick@bcog.org
From: toon@jhereg.omnigroup.com (Greg Titus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.0 SSL bundle?
Date: 8 May 1996 11:26:29 -0700
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <4mqp0l$2vr@jhereg.omnigroup.com>
References: <4mno06$p7c@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
Keywords: https SSL ammunition boom!
gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh) writes:
>About half-way through the beta-test cycle of OmniWeb 2.0 Omni
>mentioned that they had an SSL bundle in-house, but as it was
>considered ammunition by some crazy government they were not sure they
>could release it. Does anyone know what happened to it? (Exploded?)
We cleverly gave the bundle API to someone not living in the country with the
crazy government, and he sent the following to the OmniWeb mailing list just
a couple days ago:
HTTPS Version 0.5 (SSL2) PLUG-IN FOR OMNIWEB 2.0.1
=================================================
Juergen Moellenhoff (jm@oic.de), 1996-05-05
Description
===========
With this bundle you can use https-URLs (Netscapes SSL) with OmniWeb 2.0.1.
It uses the free SSLeay-lib (Version 0.5.1b) from Eric Young
(eay@mincom.oz.au) and the OmniWeb (omniweb@lighthouse.com) extensible bundle
architecture.
The software is currently available via anonymous ftp at:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/www/
OmniWeb2Bundles/https.0.5.NIHS.b.tar.gz
This software comes without any warranty of any kind. I am not responsible
for any damage that may occur as a result of using this software. Please keep
in mind that this is a work in progress, and bear with the incomplete nature
of this bundle.
Installation
============
To enable it install https.omni anywhere in the OmniWeb bundle path
(~/Library/OmniComponents, /LocalLibrary/OmniComponents, and the OmniWeb
application wrapper itself) and restart OmniWeb.app. The recommended location
for system-wide installation is /LocalLibrary/OmniComponents, for personal
installation ~/Library/OmniComponents. OmniWeb.app will automatically load it
the next time you run it.
Architectures
=============
ALL Architectures (INTEL, MOTOROLA, HP and SUN).
HP and SUN is not tested!!
Copyright
=========
This bundle is free for commercial and non-commercial use.
Bugs?
=====
Send bug reports, suggestions or comments to the address below.
Contact Information
===================
Juergen Moellenhoff
OIC - Object Innovation Center
Bochum, Germany
EMail: jm@oic.de (NEXTMail and MIME-Mail)
Have fun!
-Greg
--------------
Greg Titus
Omni Development Inc.
toon@omnigroup.com
--
---------------------
Greg Titus
Omni Development Inc.
toon@omnigroup.com
From: steve@nm-ltd.com (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SafetyNet vs enTar
Date: 8 May 1996 20:41:20 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4mr0tg$ahl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <4moldt$fks@news.tamu.edu>
In article <4moldt$fks@news.tamu.edu> stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson)
writes:
> Could anyone give me their opinion of backup software, SafetyNet vs enTar
> or any others for that matter?
I use SafetyNet all the time. It's terrific software, and a classic example of
the NEXTSTEP magic of putting a human face on UNIX. To create a tape archive,
you create an online catalog, select the files and folders you want to back up
in a browser, and click Backup. later, when you want to find a *specific* file
or folder, you browser the online catalog, make your selection, and click Restore.
The last thing i want to do when i'm on deadline and need an archived image or app
is to remember something like "tar xf -C /MyStuff Graphics -C / BigJob"
One thing I'm not sure of is if SafteyNet writes its own format, or if it's
standard tar.
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From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.0 SSL bundle?
Date: 8 May 1996 21:36:08 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Message-ID: <4mr448$1238@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <4mno06$p7c@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
An attempt to send mail to Geert Jan van Oldenborgh
either to gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl or to gj@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl
ended with:
----- Transcript of session follows -----
554 <gj@rulgm4.leidenuniv.nl>... Mail loop detected
554 sendall: too many hops (30 max)
----- Unsent message follows -----
Return-Path: <michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca>
Received: from rulway.leidenuniv.nl by lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl (4.1/SMI-4.1)
id AA09298; Wed, 8 May 96 23:17:34 +0200
Received: from lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl (rulil0.LeidenUniv.nl) by rulway.leidenuniv.nl with SMTP id AA05668
(5.67b/IDA-1.5 for <gj@rulgm4.leidenuniv.nl>); Wed, 8 May 1996 23:18:10 +0200
Received: from rulway.leidenuniv.nl by lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl (4.1/SMI-4.1)
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(5.67b/IDA-1.5 for <gj@rulgm4.leidenuniv.nl>); Wed, 8 May 1996 23:18:06 +0200
and so on, and on... Not that I would worry about encryption running
that version of sendmail. :-)
--mj
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: backups: SafetyNet vs enTar
Date: 8 May 1996 21:21:34 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <4mr38u$lud@news.tamu.edu>
I tried posting yesterday but it doesn't appear to have made it. So...
Would anyone be able to give me a comparitive evaluation of NEXTSTEP
backup software, such as SafetyNet vs enTar or any others?
Stephen Johnson, sjohnson@myriad.net
Computer Consulting Int'l, LTD
PO Box 1046
College Station, TX 77841
409-696-9463
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.3 routing?
From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay)
Date: 8 May 96 21:17:51 GMT
Message-ID: <17496128.76671.7662@kcbbs.gen.nz>
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand
I have two UNIX machines at home, one a NeXT and one a PC running (for
now, and until NeXTSTEP JAVA is read). I would rather use the NeXT for
a PPP connection and route the traffic via the NeXT to the PPP link, but
the various online manuals have no real info on how you go about it and
it's *DEFINITELY* somewhat different to the LINUX commands ie:
/sbin/route .....
Anyway had huge success with this and like to share their script w/ me?
:-)
Thanks!
Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
From: "John G. Courtsunis" <jgcourt@chocolateusa.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: installing ppp-2.2
Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 21:14:31 -0400
Organization: Commodore Chocolatier USA Inc.
Message-ID: <319146F7.6D9E@chocolateusa.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
May 8, 1996
I am trying to install ppp software on an intel machine running win95 and nextstep 3.3 I ran an ftp using
win95 and also ran gzip to decompress the file. Where do I go from here in order to install this package in
nextstep. Win95 renames the files. Do I rename them as they were in nextstep?? Can anyone help me or is
there a step of printed procedures to get me through this. Your response will be greatly appreciated.
Sincerly,
John G. Courtsunis,pres.
Commodore Chocolatier USA Inc.
jgcourt@chocolateusa.com
or in the USA call 800 457-6789
From: fisheye@selway.umt.edu (Jalal J Jemison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT, Win95, and Me?
Date: 9 May 1996 02:49:08 GMT
Organization: University of Montana
Message-ID: <4mrmf4$nk4@umt.umt.edu>
I was wondering if anyone would like to give me some info on
NeXT. I wan't to fool around with it.. but don't know if I should?
I would get the NeXT academic bundle for $299. It's the NeXT 3.3 and
Developer. There is also the Lighthouse pachage for $299. I've always
wanted to dinker with a Good OS. One that is not Owned by MicroSoftNazi or
Linux(Linux is cool don't get me wrong). I have a P100, with 16 megs of Ram.
WIll be getting 16 more soon.. But if anyone has had Win95 along with
NeXT can they tell me the details. I have to have Win95/DOS for games and
School, so I will be partitioning. The hardware will probably be the
biggest concern.. but will I be spending 3 months installing and setting up.
I have setup Linux so I can dinker with Command line setup stuff.. Will I
need to know more than that??
Thanks
fisheye@selway.umt.edu
From: pbrown@math.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem with new TeXview-gray for teTeX!!
Date: 9 May 1996 04:15:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <4mrrhn$s5b@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <4mcr1h$n7b@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Chang-Hyeon Song (song@cs.purdue.edu) wrote:
: Hi. Finally it was released for public. I always wanted a anti-aliasing.
: So I downloaded the TeXview gray. When I tried to open a dvi file, all I
: am getting is busy hard disk activity for long time, then stop, and again
: with hard disk activity.
: SO I thought it might be newer version of teTeX that is working with this,
: so I downloaded newest release of teTeX, and installed them.
: But TeXview-gray does the same thing.
: Can anybody tell me what is wrong with the newly released TeXview-gray?
: Thanks in advance.
Something else is wrong, I think. I downloaded TeXview-gray, and it
works perfectly well on my black hardware; I'm using a version of
teTeX I installed just after Gregor released it for general use, so I
doubt it's a version problem. Do you get any messages in the console?
Do you have teTeX configured properly?
Paul
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for Intel running NS 3.3
Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 09:16:37 +0200
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitt Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <31919BD5.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.93.960507134231.9277A-100000@elaine30.Stanford.EDU>
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Robert Gibson Jacobs wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a good version of Fortran to run on my PC running NeXTStep
> 3.3. Either f77 or f90 would be fine. I'd prefer a freeware version, but
> if no good ones are available then a commercial one would be fine.
> Any information you have on finding a good compiler would be appreciated.
>
> Respond by email (shabany@me-501t-2.stanford.edu) or to newsgroup
there's a commercial Version by NAG. I've seen the one for black hardware only. Hope
there have made a mab version out of it.
Check out
http://www.nag.co.uk:80/0/intro/sysavail/availnr/NXTavail
stef
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___________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: breaking up large files
Message-ID: <Dr3MK4.2yz@udcf.gla.ac.uk>
From: dmurray@music.glas.ac.uk (Duncan Murray(EMU92))
Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 18:12:03 GMT
Sender: news@udcf.gla.ac.uk (News)
References: <4jibb5$rdk@news.its.com>
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Service
In article <4jibb5$rdk@news.its.com> chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger) writes:
> js@euler.hnv.icem.de (Juergen Sell) wrote:
> > Chuck Swiger writes
> >> chunk is only available on NEXTSTEP machines; gsplit is available
> >> everywhere.
I've never ever got chunk to work, espically between NeXT and Intel
machines. A better bet is to uuencode a gzipped file and use the split
command in a terminal window. Also, if youre transferring via floppies,
use DOS formatted as you get more on them!
Cheers
Duncan.
dmurray@music.gla.ac.uk
From: me@chep7.kaist.ac.kr (My Account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problem with new TeXview-gray for teTeX!!
Date: 9 May 1996 12:57:50 GMT
Organization: Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology (KAIST)
Message-ID: <4msq4e$6u1@worak.kaist.ac.kr>
References: <4mcr1h$n7b@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Chang-Hyeon Song (song@cs.purdue.edu) wrote:
: Hi. Finally it was released for public. I always wanted a anti-aliasing.
: So I downloaded the TeXview gray. When I tried to open a dvi file, all I
: am getting is busy hard disk activity for long time, then stop, and again
: with hard disk activity.
: SO I thought it might be newer version of teTeX that is working with this,
: so I downloaded newest release of teTeX, and installed them.
: But TeXview-gray does the same thing.
: Can anybody tell me what is wrong with the newly released TeXview-gray?
: Thanks in advance.
: ---
: Chang Song (song@cs.purdue.edu)
Where can I get the TeXview-gray ? Is there teTeX for NeXT ?
Thanks in advance.
------
Dahl Park
dpark@chep6.kaist.ac.kr
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT, Win95, and Me?
Date: 9 May 1996 10:02:18 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <4msfra$4dn@netty.york.ac.uk>
References: <4mrmf4$nk4@umt.umt.edu>
fisheye@selway.umt.edu (Jalal J Jemison) writes:
> NeXT can they tell me the details. I have to have Win95/DOS for games and
> School, so I will be partitioning. The hardware will probably be the
Setting upo both of them is very easy. Install NS first and it will allow
you to set aside some of the disk for DOS. Then install win95. The only
snag at this point is that win95 happily ovrewrites the NS boot thing. To
fix this use fdisk to make the NS partititon active - reboot NS and then
re-write the boot managed using 'disk -i'. Not a problem - a complete
install of both takes me about an afternoon with a single speed CD-ROM drive
when getting on with other work at the same time.
-bat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: stephan@warhol (Stephan Schlecht)
Subject: Hell Shuttles with CIC
Message-ID: <Dr4prr.7A9@onevision.de>
Keywords: Compose in Color CIC Hell Shuttles Chromacom
Sender: news@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 08:19:03 GMT
I think there is an external module for CIC (Compose in Color) for writing
to Hell Shuttles. I need the address of the company (an internet address
for getting a demo version of the module would be also very helpful).
Thank you,
Stephan
---
Stephan Schlecht
OneVision GmbH
Florian-Seidl-Stra e 11
93053 Regensburg
Germany
From: Rob Aulwes <aulwes@math.uiowa.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenStep for Windows NT
Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 08:53:53 -0500
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <3191F8F1.7CC2@math.uiowa.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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I read over the white paper for OpenStep 4.0 and it stated that
arguements are now statically typed. Does anyone know if this means
that 'id' type is no longer supported? Are we still going to be able to
write in Objective C?
Rob Aulwes
aulwes@math.uiowa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu>
From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY)
Subject: Looking for: Garrick Toubassi (SegHoarker.app)
Message-ID: <75B7793101A23A0C@-SMF->
Date: 09 May 96 10:45:00 EDT
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
I am looking for Garrick Toubassi, author of the very useful
SegHoarker.app.
Does anyone know where he is? The does not list an email address.
Thanks
TjL
ps -- I looked for him using 'http://www.iaf.net/' but found no listing.
[Note: this address cannot read the 'reply-to' line ]
--
Timothy J. Luoma SBN 476
Princeton Theological Seminary Princeton, NJ
476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu MIME OK / No NeXTMail please
From: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.0 SSL bundle?
Date: 9 May 1996 14:45:35 GMT
Organization: Universite Laval
Message-ID: <4mt0ef$6t1@athena.ulaval.ca>
References: <4mno06$p7c@highway.leidenuniv.nl> <4mqp0l$2vr@jhereg.omnigroup.com>
Greetings,
Could someone explain what SSL and HTTPS are ?
Thanks !
Antoine Gautier.
From: Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for Intel running NS 3.3
Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 18:13:24 +0200
Organization: Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics
Message-ID: <319219A4.7E91@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.93.960507134231.9277A-100000@elaine30.Stanford.EDU> <31919BD5.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>
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Stefan Ried wrote:
>
> Robert Gibson Jacobs wrote:
> >
> > I'm looking for a good version of Fortran to run on my PC running NeXTStep
> > 3.3. Either f77 or f90 would be fine. I'd prefer a freeware version, but
> > if no good ones are available then a commercial one would be fine.
> [NAG f90 pointer deleted]
There also used to be Absoft f77 - very fast, but not so reliable
(especially in catching errors). I don't know whether it got ported to
PCs.
Besides the commercial ones you can run
- f2c: free, f77, works (not extremely fast) with NeXT cc. I have some
handy library routines which are missing (etime, date, time, hostnm).
Use -traditional-cpp with the -g flag or weird things happen. Yes, you
can use gdb/Edit.app
- g77: free, f77 + extensions, need a new gcc installation, but seems to
work OK.
You can pick up f2c from http://www.netlib.org
--
G.J. van Oldenborgh
Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics, Leiden University
email: gj@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl
web: http://www-lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SoftPC Demo where?
Date: 9 May 1996 08:18:18 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <4ms9oa$fl@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
I'm still lokking for a working SoftPC Demo. Where can I find one?
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
Juergen Grieb ** 72119 Ammerbuch/Germany ** Tel. +7073 - 5118
e-mail: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail and Mime welcome
PGP-Key is available (please request it, so mail exchange will be safe)
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Picard: Well, five-card stud, nothing wild - and the sky's the limit...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Message-ID: <68ZNGy0F-JB@delphin.tbx.berlinet.de>
From: M.GUENTSCHE@TBX.BerliNet.DE (mark-oliver guentsche)
Subject: next laser printer and windows95
Date: Thu, 09 May 1996 11:09:00 +0200
Distribution: world
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
hi,
I am looking for a next 400 dpi printer driver for windows95 so that I can
print word-documents using a lan.
is there a solution to this problem?
mark
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.ai.doc-analysis.misc,comp.ai.doc-analysis.ocr,de.comp.sys.next
Subject: Re: arabic fonts
Date: 9 May 1996 20:02:45 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <4mtj15$d42@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
References: <4l8bir$1aa@news.sns-felb.debis.de>
In-Reply-To: <4l8bir$1aa@news.sns-felb.debis.de>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
I managed to convert the Baghdad Font. I can NeXTMail it to you if you
want.
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com (Mark Tarbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Patches for Doom II on NS 3.3 ??
Date: 9 May 1996 19:12:30 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4mtg2u$5t0@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov>
References: <4mg4bn$kju@news.petrel.ch>
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Cc: jacques.garbi@colombus.ch
In <4mg4bn$kju@news.petrel.ch> Jacques Garbi wrote, in part:
> Are there any patches or new versions anywhere to be able to safely
> run Doom II on NeXTSTEP ?
Yes, there are!
The latest DoomII.app, doom-1.8.wad, and patches are available at:
http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/DoomII/
Or, you can go directly to id software's ftp site:
ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom2/
Mark
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenStep for Windows NT
Date: 9 May 1996 19:33:27 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4mtha7$k89@news.next.com>
References: <3191F8F1.7CC2@math.uiowa.edu>
In article <3191F8F1.7CC2@math.uiowa.edu> Rob Aulwes
<aulwes@math.uiowa.edu> writes:
> I read over the white paper for OpenStep 4.0 and it stated that
> arguements are now statically typed. Does anyone know if this means
> that 'id' type is no longer supported? Are we still going to be able to
> write in Objective C?
Relax. The type 'id' is still supported. You can still write in
Objective C.
The static typing of arguments simply means that when a certain class is
expected as an argument, the type is specified in the interface
description. For example, if a method expects an NSString or compliant
subclass, then the type for that argument is specified as (NSString *)
instead of (id). This permits the compiler to do additional compile time
checking and warn you of potential bugs.
It's the Objective-C equivalent of good C prototyping, and is in general a
Good Thing.
Mike Paquette
--
I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me.
"The Internet is an elite organization. Most of the people in the
world have never even made a phone call." -- Noam Chomsky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: zollingj@ripley (John Zollinger)
Subject: Re: OpenStep for Windows NT
Sender: news@docws001.shl.com
Message-ID: <Dr5L4r.1otu@docws001.shl.com>
Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 19:36:27 GMT
References: <3191F8F1.7CC2@math.uiowa.edu>
Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc.
Rob Aulwes (aulwes@math.uiowa.edu) wrote:
: I read over the white paper for OpenStep 4.0 and it stated that
: arguements are now statically typed. Does anyone know if this means
: that 'id' type is no longer supported? Are we still going to be able to
: write in Objective C?
It doesn't mean that ALL arguments MUST be statically typed. It just means
that unless there is a really good reason to not type the arguments you should
type them. The 'id' type is still there, it just doesn't make sense to use
it everywhere. Let the compiler help you find bugs.
They also have changed so that unless you are returning something useful
from a method, return void. Mainly for DO considerations, but it also makes
things a lot clearer. Sure you can't "stack" your statements (because you
aren't returning self), but always assuming that the previous method was
successful (not returning nil or something else) can cause other problems.
The method...
- process:obj1 with:obj2;
becomes...
- (void)process:(ZFile *)obj1 with:(ZEncipher *)obj2;
I am glad to see these changes. Of course, I have been coding in this fashion
for some time. Your tastes will vary. :-))
Cheers,
John Zollinger
ProActive Consulting, Inc.
johnz@netropolis.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.databases
From: jrhoads@netcom.com (Jason Rhoads)
Subject: FS:OPENBASE 5.0 $695.00
Message-ID: <jrhoadsDr473G.K7B@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 01:35:40 GMT
Sender: jrhoads@netcom3.netcom.com
I am selling my personal copy of QuickBase 4.1h that can be upgraded to the
recently shipping OpenBase 5.0. For $695.00 I will ship you the disks, manuals,
and the three user license key for QuickBase 4.1h. OpenBase 5.0 is available
via ftp or I can split the file and put it on disks if you prefer.
Please send all inquiries to JRhoads@netcom.com
> OPENBASE 5.0 SHIPS!
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>
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>
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> WEB SITE: ,http://www.openbase.com
>
> Francestown, N.H., May 8, 1996
>
> OpenBase International, Ltd. announces its OpenBase 5.0
> client-server database. Upgrades are available for current
> QuickBase 4.1 owners.
>
> OpenBase replaces the popular QuickBase product and offers a number
> of advantages over its predecessor. These advantages include:
>
> - Fast server initialization
> - Full subquery and view support
> - Alter table support
> - Improved data integrity enforcement
> - Better performance and query optimization
> - New numerical rowid column
> - Improved unique index support
> - Improved Objective-C API
> - Improved documentation
>
> OpenBase also comes with new graphical tools for designing and
> altering database schemas, managing user access and viewing database
> information. The new OpenBase manager provides everything you need
> to build and manage your databases.
>
> OpenBase is available under NeXTSTEP 3.3 and OpenStep for Mach, and
> will soon be available on OpenStep for Windows NT and OpenStep for
> Solaris. OpenBase also works with WebObjects, available from NeXT
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> OpenBase International, Ltd. All other trademarks mentioned belong
> to their respective owners.
>
>
From: royalta@aol.com (RoyalTA)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fortran for Intel running NS 3.3
Date: 9 May 1996 17:13:32 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <4mtn5s$pgo@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <319219A4.7E91@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl>
Absoft for NS Intel and Motorola both work well. I have been using them
for about 4 years. Very fast execution.
From: drinke@apts120.residence.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: next laser printer and windows95
Date: 9 May 1996 22:44:35 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4mtsgj$qv6@mordred.gatech.edu>
References: <68ZNGy0F-JB@delphin.tbx.berlinet.de>
mark-oliver guentsche (M.GUENTSCHE@TBX.BerliNet.DE) wrote:
: hi,
: I am looking for a next 400 dpi printer driver for windows95 so that I can
: print word-documents using a lan.
: is there a solution to this problem?
I use a program called 'PMLPR' for Windows95. When I upgraded from Win
3.11 my generic 'postscript' printer got upgraded. It works perfectly
(although I get 300 dpi instead of 400). BTW, my NeXT is a 68040 cube running
NS 3.1.
--
Dave Rinker
Georgia Correctional Institute of Technology -- Atlanta, Georgia 30332
Computer Science Undergraduate
NeXTmail: drinke@cc.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt2780a
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: next laser printer and windows95
Date: 10 May 1996 09:05:58 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4mv0tm$53h@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <68ZNGy0F-JB@delphin.tbx.berlinet.de> <4mtsgj$qv6@mordred.gatech.edu>
Cc: drinke@apts120.residence.gatech.edu
In <4mtsgj$qv6@mordred.gatech.edu> Dave Rinker wrote:
> mark-oliver guentsche (M.GUENTSCHE@TBX.BerliNet.DE) wrote:
> : I am looking for a next 400 dpi printer driver for windows95 so that I
can
> : print word-documents using a lan.
> : is there a solution to this problem?
>
> I use a program called 'PMLPR' for Windows95. When I upgraded from Win
> 3.11 my generic 'postscript' printer got upgraded. It works perfectly
> (although I get 300 dpi instead of 400). BTW, my NeXT is a 68040 cube
running
> NS 3.1.
If you install samba on the NeXT machine, it will permit it to act as a print
server.
Paul
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From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka)
Subject: Re: NeXT, Win95, and Me?
Message-ID: <Dr6Hup.nI@hurka.UUCP>
Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka)
Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.)
References: <4msfra$4dn@netty.york.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 07:23:13 GMT
In article <4msfra$4dn@netty.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
writes:
[...]
> win95 happily ovrewrites the NS boot thing. To fix this use fdisk
> to make the NS partititon active - reboot NS and then re-write
> the boot managed using 'disk -i'.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
'disk -i' initialize disk, this means it erases everything.
Use 'disk -b /dev/rsd0h' if you have SCSI disk or 'disk -b /dev/rhd0h' if
you have IDE disk. For more details see man page for 'disk' command.
--
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tom@hukatronic.cz
NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
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From: ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk
Subject: Re: SoftPC Demo where?
Message-ID: <Dr6sIp.BDD@isltd.insignia.com>
Sender: news@isltd.insignia.com
Organization: Insignia Solutions plc
References: <4ms9oa$fl@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 11:13:37 GMT
In article <4ms9oa$fl@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de
(Juergen Grieb) writes:
> I'm still lokking for a working SoftPC Demo. Where can I find one?
The easiest place to find a SoftPC demo is on the third party CD, thats
in the box you got NeXTStep in.
This is the 4.0 version (assuming you're got a sometime recent version
of NeXTStep).
I'd recomend that you try out the 4.0 version (because you've probably
got it already!), then if thats somewhere in the right ballpark, call
Insignia Tech Support, and they'll send you a 4.1 CD (the numbers on the
3rd Party CD).
4.1 is basically as 4.0 apart from:
8bit colour support.
Better Winsock.
Better "real hard disk" support.
Better cut and paste.
Better full screen handling.
A few speed ups.
Unsupported sound driver.
Unsupported hdf inspector for workspace (this is cool!).
Misc bug fixes.
Probably some other stuff I can't remember.
$an
[btw - for those that care: I'm leaving Insignia at the end of next week
to work for Cambridge Animations]
$
From: ggrant@eudoxos.math.upenn.edu (Gregory Grant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Appsoft Image.app
Date: 10 May 1996 15:47:30 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <4mvoei$i2k@netnews.upenn.edu>
Can someone tell me where to contact the Appsoft Image.app people? I want
to find out how much it is, but I can't find them anywhere. Web Word
searches only turns up Japanese.
Thanks,
Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu>
From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY)
Subject: Looking for: mkmagic
Message-ID: <E035933101A23A0C@-SMF->
Date: 10 May 96 12:26:00 EDT
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1085.htmld/1085.html references
a script called 'mkmagic' which was/is available via NeXT tech support.
Does anyone have this, and if so, would you let me have a copy?
Thanks!
TjL
[Note: this address cannot read the 'reply-to' line ]
--
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From: Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (Pete Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Appsoft Image.app
Date: 10 May 1996 21:04:28 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4n0b0s$57m@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM>
References: <4mvoei$i2k@netnews.upenn.edu>
In article <4mvoei$i2k@netnews.upenn.edu> ggrant@eudoxos.math.upenn.edu (Gregory
Grant) writes:
>
> Can someone tell me where to contact the Appsoft Image.app people? I want
> to find out how much it is, but I can't find them anywhere. Web Word
> searches only turns up Japanese.
Appsoft's been out of business since mid '93. The program is unsupported - you
might be able to find a used copy, but you'd need to look hard.
I'd suggest buying Tiffany2 or perhaps WetPaint.
Best,
Pete
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***************************************************************************
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Peter.D.Clark@eng.sun.com (NeXTMail) | at the world and sees a tragedy.
***************************************************************************
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC Demo where?
Date: 10 May 1996 23:00:34 GMT
Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main
Message-ID: <4n0hqi$f2@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <4ms9oa$fl@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> <Dr6sIp.BDD@isltd.insignia.com>
ian.stephenson@insignia.co.uk wrote:
> 4.1 is basically as 4.0 apart from:
BTW: Is an update planned to Windows95 in the nearer future?
I consider buying SoftPC but certainly won't do if can't get Windows 95 in
the long run.
Bye
Uli
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_____________________________________________________________________
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D-60489 Frankfurt
Germany
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Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
_____________________________________________________________________
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Appsoft Image.app
Date: 10 May 1996 20:40:55 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <4n09kn$nqa@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <4mvoei$i2k@netnews.upenn.edu>
Gregory Grant writes
>
> Can someone tell me where to contact the Appsoft Image.app people?
> I want to find out how much it is, but I can't find them
> anywhere. Web Word searches only turns up Japanese.
>
> Thanks,
> Greg
Appsoft is out of business for a long time now. And AppsoftImage was
given out for free because nobody wanted it anyway, it's average running
time was around 2 minutes.
Out of all the imaging apps which could be called as such, only TIFFany
is still around (and it's the best one, but I may be a bit biased here
:-) They are @ tiffany@afs.com
Cheers,
- Stan
---
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mail.app Header
Date: 10 May 1996 07:30:47 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <4murb7$fk@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Hi,
I had to add a 'From:' line manualy because my system always messed up the
automatically created one. Now the problem with other mailing programs vanished.
Even programs that use to 'From:' line to reply instead of the 'Reply-To:' work.
But when I look at my 'outgoing.mbox' something strage is happening since then.
Normally I can read to whom mail is going ('To: xxxxx xxx'). But now only my
name appears there. I checked all the other header lines and they are ok. I only
have a 'Sender:' line which wasn't there before I added the 'From:' line.
Why is Mail.app using the 'Sender:' line? And where can I tell it to use the
'To:' line?
--
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_______________________________________________________________________
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How to print 1UP .ps file as 4UP?
Date: 10 May 1996 23:45:53 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4n0kfh$t3i@news4.digex.net>
Hi,
I have a .ps file. It is really long, 100pages or so. I want to
save some paper, and would like to print the document out as 4 up (i.e. 4
pages printed on a single page ala PageLayout panel). However, the
Preview.app doesn't let me do this. Is there a way/a program that can do
this?
Thanks.
--
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From: beaucham@cmp-rs.music.uiuc.edu (james beauchamp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Unix mail vs. NeXTMail
Date: 11 May 1996 02:02:07 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <4n0sev$a5p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Normally I use Unix mail, but occasionally I use NeXTMail if I need to send
or receive an attached file. For ordinary use I find Unix mail much faster and
convenient, and it's the only way if I'm logged in remotely. If I do use
NeXTMail, I try to make sure my regular mail is cleaned out, because otherwise
it automatically transfers to the NeXTMail buffer, whereever that is.
However, if I'm using OmniWeb and I want to send a note to someone by clicking
on his address, it automatically throws me into NeXTMail. Today I did this
and forgot that I hadn't cleaned up my regular mail, so it ALL transferred
into NeXTMail. Is there some way I can get it back for use with Unix mail?
(NeXTMail doesn't help when you're logged in remotely.)
Also, is there a convenient way to save a particular NeXTMail note to a
particular file? I've been doing it by paste, and it's clumsy compared to
the 's' command in Unix mail.
I have a black NeXT running 3.2.
Jim Beauchamp
j-beauch@uiuc.edu
From: schildwa@informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Christian Schildwaechter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fiend 1.4.1 + Backspace... BUT how to set time before activation?
Date: 11 May 1996 05:33:21 GMT
Organization: RWTH -Aachen / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik
Message-ID: <4n18r1$1he@news.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <4mmov7$2jc@usc.edu>
reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) writes:
>Fiend 1.4.1 + Backspace... BUT how to set time before activation?
>I don't see any dwrites, and there's nothing in the preferences. Any ideas?
It uses the time set in Preferences for NeXT's screenblanker, 5 min at least.
Christian Schildwaechter
schildw@infoac.rmi.de
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How to print 1UP .ps file as 4UP?
Date: 11 May 1996 07:41:18 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <4n1gau$ei6@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
References: <4n0kfh$t3i@news4.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <4n0kfh$t3i@news4.digex.net>
On 05/10/96, John Kheit wrote:
>Hi,
> I have a .ps file. It is really long, 100pages or so. I want to
>save some paper, and would like to print the document out as 4 up (i.e. 4
>pages printed on a single page ala PageLayout panel). However, the
>Preview.app doesn't let me do this. Is there a way/a program that can do
>this?
>
Try it with /usr/bin/psnup.
--
----------------
Yuwen Cheng
University of Arizona, Math
yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (t.balasubramanian)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help:digitize
Date: 11 May 1996 05:30:31 GMT
Organization: Default Usenet Organization
Message-ID: <4n18ln$fnn@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu>
Hi,
I have a few spectra (in .eps files) to be degitized. Is there any
software availabe to do this quickly. Thanks - Balu,T
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: How to print 1UP .ps file as 4UP?
Date: 11 May 1996 15:00:15 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4n2a1v$i08@news3.digex.net>
References: <4n0kfh$t3i@news4.digex.net> <4n1gau$ei6@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
yucheng@math.arizona.edu wrote:
> On 05/10/96, John Kheit wrote:
> > I have a .ps file. It is really long, 100pages or so. I want to
> >save some paper, and would like to print the document out as 4 up (i.e.
4
> >pages printed on a single page ala PageLayout panel). However, the
> >Preview.app doesn't let me do this. Is there a way/a program that can
do
> >this?
> Try it with /usr/bin/psnup.
That is the answer. Something like this:
psnup -n4 source.ps >output.ps
will do the trick.
Thanks to all those that helped!
--
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From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl
Subject: Re: SafetyNet vs enTar
Message-ID: <Dr9A02.4C7@RnA.NL>
Sender: news@RnA.NL
Organization: R&A
References: <4moldt$fks@news.tamu.edu> <4mr0tg$ahl@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 19:26:26 GMT
SafetyNet is absolutely great.
--
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From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail.app Header
Date: 11 May 1996 19:59:46 GMT
Organization: Cyberstore Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <4n2rji$836@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
References: <4murb7$fk@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) wrote:
>I had to add a 'From:' line manualy because my system always messed up the
>Normally I can read to whom mail is going ('To: xxxxx xxx'). But now only my
>name appears there. I checked all the other header lines and they are ok. I
only
>have a 'Sender:' line which wasn't there before I added the 'From:' line.
>Why is Mail.app using the 'Sender:' line? And where can I tell it to use the
>'To:' line?
I'm using Mail.app 3.3. In preferences select Export from the pop up menu.
You'll see your FROM key in and address. In the Other Addressed for Self box
type your return address.
Then give it a test.
Darren
P.S. In case it might matter, my FROM key is all upper case.
ALSO I only know it worked for Mail.app. Don't know about
other apps.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Lipo and/or Double Sided Printing?
Date: 11 May 1996 21:45:49 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4n31qd$mhf@news3.digex.net>
Hi,
I'm looking for two things, and hoping someone might direct me to them...
1) Xanthus, a while back when they released version 1 of OpenWrite, also
put out a program to 'thin' fat binaries.
2) Are there any apps/scripts that will let me print documents double
sided? IE split up .ps files into ODD and EVEN pages to allow me to print
them double sided?
I'd appreciate it, if anyone would point out where I might find them? Or
would anyone out there be willing to NeXT/MIME/SUN mail either to me?
Thanks very much for any help/info!
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
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From: murshid@noesis.zone.org (Murshid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Upgrade of phone kit for 3.3 ISDN
Date: 11 May 1996 23:16:08 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Message-ID: <4n373o$dkh@news.cerf.net>
Has someone upgraded the Phone kit so
that the NeXT ISDN box will work with
NS3.3?
Thank you,
Murshid
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Double Sided Printing, Thanks, I got Thinner.app (was Lipo and/or Double Sided Printing?)
Date: 12 May 1996 05:33:31 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4n3t7b$sev@news3.digex.net>
References: <4n31qd$mhf@news3.digex.net>
John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
> I'm looking for two things, and hoping someone might direct me to them...
Correction, just one thing now, I got Thinner.app, thanks very much for
those that offered. I appreciate it!
> 2) Are there any apps/scripts that will let me print documents double
sided? IE split up .ps files into ODD and EVEN pages to allow me to print
them double sided?
However, I still need item 2 above. And so the below edited proposition
still holds...
> I'd appreciate it, if anyone would point out where I might find [it]? Or
would anyone out there be willing to NeXT/MIME/SUN mail [it] to me?
Again, thanks very much for any help :)
--
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From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Double Sided Printing, Thanks, I got Thinner.app (was Lipo and/or Double Sided Printing?)
Date: 12 May 1996 11:59:13 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <4n4jqh$gve@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
References: <4n31qd$mhf@news3.digex.net> <4n3t7b$sev@news3.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <4n3t7b$sev@news3.digex.net>
On 05/11/96, John Kheit wrote:
>John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
>> 2) Are there any apps/scripts that will let me print documents double
>sided? IE split up .ps files into ODD and EVEN pages to allow me to print
>them double sided?
If you have a compiler, you may try psselect of pstools. Here is a portion of
psselect's man page.
NAME
psselect - select pages from a PostScript file
SYNOPSIS
psselect [ -q ] [ -e ] [ -o ] [ -r ] [ -ppages ] [ pages ] [
infile [ outfile ] ]
DESCRIPTION
Psselect selects pages from a PostScript document, creating
a new PostScript file. The input PostScript file should fol-
low the Adobe Document Structuring Conventions.
The -e option selects all of the even pages; it may be used
in conjunction with the other page selection options to
select the even pages from a range of pages.
The -o option selects all of the odd pages; it may be used
in conjunction with the other page selection options.
The -ppages option specifies the pages which are to be
selected. Pages is a comma separated list of page ranges,
each of which may be a page number, or a page range of the
form first-last. If first is omitted, the first page is
assumed, and if last is omitted, the last page is assumed.
You can get pstools at
http://www.rz.go.dlr.de:8081/unix/src/contrib/pstools.tar.gz
Hope this can help. BTW, if anybody knows a US site, please post.
Also, if you are working with TeX/LaTeX, there is a dviselect utility that can
do the same job as you want. However, I forget where I got it.
NAME
dviselect - extract pages from DVI files
SYNOPSIS
dviselect [ -s ] [ -i infile ] [ -o outfile ] list of pages
[ infile [ outfile ] ]
DESCRIPTION
Dviselect selects pages from a DVI file produced by TeX,
creating a new DVI file usable by any of the TeX conversion
programs, or even by dviselect itself.
A range is a string of the form even, odd, or first:last
where both first and last are optional numeric strings, with
negative numbers indicated by a leading underscore character
``_''. If both first and last are omitted, the colon may
also be omitted, or may be replaced with an asterisk ``*''.
A page range is a list of ranges separated by periods. A
list of pages is described by a set of page ranges separated
by commas and/or white space.
--
----------------
Yuwen Cheng
University of Arizona, Math
yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quotations not in NS 3.3?
Date: 12 May 1996 20:01:58 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4n5g3m$sjn@news4.digex.net>
References: <960505221730.4486AABqR.jmm@reid.econ.lsa.umich.edu>
jmm@umich.edu wrote:
> Is it true that Quotations.app is not available in NS 3.3? (And that
there is not an NS 2.2 version that runs on Intel architectures?)
My NS 3.2 version runs just fine under Intel.
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From: eidolon@sn.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TiffanyII Web Resource?
Date: 12 May 1996 21:23:37 GMT
Organization: SN Internett
Message-ID: <4n5ksp$4tq@hasle.sn.no>
A while back there were some discussion in this group re. startup of a www
site for users of the Tiffany package. What has this resulted in?
Are there any books avail that covers this piece of software?
best,
-olechr
From: eidolon@sn.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Appsoft Image.app
Date: 12 May 1996 21:25:56 GMT
Organization: SN Internett
Message-ID: <4n5l14$4tq@hasle.sn.no>
References: <4mvoei$i2k@netnews.upenn.edu> <4n09kn$nqa@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Cc: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
> Out of all the imaging apps which could be called as such, only TIFFany
> is still around (and it's the best one, but I may be a bit biased here
> :-) They are @ tiffany@afs.com
>
> Cheers,
> - Stan
Does that mean that ComposeInColor is no longer developed/supported?
-olechr
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Why is Panasonic PD slower than 4mm tape?
Date: 13 May 1996 00:16:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Message-ID: <4n5v0d$cdp@news.service.uci.edu>
We just got a Panasonic PD/CD-ROM dual drive.
According to the specs and reviews, it should be able to have around
0.8Mbyte/second data write rate. However, I had it attached to an intel
box running nextstep. It takes longer to write than my old 4mm dat drive.
A 500Mb directory copy(gnutar) took more than a whole morning, while I
could backup almost 2G disks with a DAT drive within the same amount of
time. Did I do anything wrong?
Reading is a bit faster, but still of the same order.
Are all optical drives like that. Isn't the PD supposed to be a bit faster
than ordinary magneto-optical drives?
How should we set the LUN jumper, the MAC mode or the PC mode.
I had it left as PC mode, and I can access the drive as either CD or PD.
The system assigns a different SCSI ID to them.
By the way, there are two versions of disktab file availabe, one from
Next Answers as:
# here is the one from nextanswers
#pd-1|PD-1|MATSHITA PD-1 LF-1000 A:\
# :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#1632:nt#15:ns#53:ss#1024:rm#2026:\
# :fp#256:bp#256:ng#154:gs#1600:ga#16:ao#784:\
# :os=mach_kernel:z0#80:z1#168:ro=a:\
# :pa#0:sa#618510:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#8:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\
# :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa:
the other was posted here sometime ago by
SHIROYAMA-Takayuki : Taisho Osaka, Japan.
Psi@fortune.nest.or.jp
as
#Here is disktab for Matushita's PD. I got this from fj.sys.next.
# Original written by kiura@narc.affrc.go.jp
#
# pd634: 5.25" SCSI PD disk for NEXTSTEP
#
pd634|PD634|MATSHITA PD-1 LF-1000 A:\
:ty=removable_rw_scsi:ns#64:nt#64:nc#634:ss#512:\
:fp#256:bp#256\
:os=sdmach:z0#80:z1#168:ro=a:\
:pa#0:sa#1298176:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#3:da#4096:ra#5:oa=space:\
:ta=4.3BSD:ia:aa:
The second one seems to give more space: 627870MB
compared to 598108MB as given by the Next Answer version.
I do not quite understand the difference, and decided to use the second
one any way. There does not seem to be any speed difference.
Thank you.
--
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Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA 92717-3975
phone: 714-824-3105, or 714-824-5406(MAE Department)
Fax: 714-824-3105, or 714-824-8585(MAE Department)
From: work@dannug.dk (Michael Hallin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SafetyNet vs enTar
Date: 10 May 1996 20:21:38 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <4n08gi$3fn@machthenext.dannug.dk>
References: <4moldt$fks@news.tamu.edu>
In article <4moldt$fks@news.tamu.edu> stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson)
writes:
|>Could anyone give me their opinion of backup software, SafetyNet vs enTar
|>or any others for that matter?
I use SafetyNet, and nothing beats it.
enTAR I used before I bought SafetyNet, and although it works,
it is in fact just a frontend for GNUtar, meaning that you
can do exactly the same things enTAR allows you to do, from
a Terminal window and running tar or GNUtar.
Also, enTAR doesn t allow you to do all the really neat stuff
that SafetyNet do, like genuine incremental backups, unattended
backups, scheduled backups, lightning-fast lookup and - retrival
of files on DATs etc.
SafetyNet get my recommendation, not the least due the always
fast repsonse they have, when I ask question. Good support is
very important....
Best regards
Michael
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ColorProduct Manager Rank Xerox Denmark
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From: Babou
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Xnext pb with colors
Date: 13 May 1996 10:07:03 GMT
Organization: INT (Evry - France)
Message-ID: <4n71k7$rg5@babylone.int-evry.fr>
I've just tried Xnext for Intel. All seem to work except the colors.
twm can't find the colors and I can't see anything on my xterm.
Is there someone who tried to install Xnext ? please help me.
_________________________________________________________
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Ch.5205, Bat. U5
MAISEL INT
5, rue Charles Fourier
91011 EVRY Cedex
Email (NeXTMail, MIME) :
bourry@babounet.minet.net
From: steve@nm-ltd.com (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TiffanyII Web Resource?
Date: 13 May 1996 15:12:42 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4n7jha$ba0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <4n5ksp$4tq@hasle.sn.no>
Keywords: NEXTSTEP, graphics, TIFFany 2
In article <4n5ksp$4tq@hasle.sn.no> eidolon@sn.no writes:
> A while back there were some discussion in this group re. startup of a www
> site for users of the Tiffany package. What has this resulted in?
>
> Are there any books avail that covers this piece of software?
>
I'm one of those folks who were discussing such a resource. I still want
to get it going, but work pressures and a dispute with our former ISP is
holding it up. Michael Rutchik of Clorox may get his resource up soon.
--
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| 217.344.5303 * fax 217.344.8981 * |
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From: cello@virgil (Sean Varah)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with tin
Date: 13 May 1996 15:03:39 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts
Message-ID: <4n7j0b$gh8@decaxp.HARVARD.EDU>
As you can see, my tin program running on Intel, doesn't include
the domain name of my computer in the reply-to address. In my
tinrc file I've set it to my real email address, cello@mario.harvard.edu,
but this doesn't show up.
cello@virgil just isn't cutting it.
Anyone know where I go to fix this?
Thanks
Sean
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sean Varah
Harvard Computer Music Studio
cello@mario.harvard.edu, http://www-mario.harvard.edu
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From: Philipp Ott <philipp@cybertron.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WebObjects and Microsoft IIS?
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 11:45:25 +0100
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960513114202.30163A-100000@cybert1.cybertron.at>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi!
Did anybody out there solve the riddle how to make WebObjects 1.0 work
under Micrsofts Internet Information Server?
If so, please let me know.
With kind Regards
Philipp Ott
philipp@cybertron.at
philipp@gscorp.com
From: fad@mantis (Francisco de Carvalho)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Interface Viewer
Date: 13 May 1996 16:39:04 GMT
Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK
Message-ID: <4n7oj8$d5g@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Does anyone know of a product developed by an Argentinian
based company called Interface Viewer which basically looks
at the NIB and produces Object Interaction Graphs (or
equivalent graphics)?
Any other similar products to view the internal connections
stored in the NIBs
Thanks,
Fran
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URL: http://www.zoo.bt.co.uk/~fad
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From: dossr@ecs.ecs.csus.edu ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Quotations not in NS 3.3?
Date: 13 May 1996 15:50:04 GMT
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Message-ID: <4n7lnc$rrp@csusac.ecs.csus.edu>
References: <960505221730.4486AABqR.jmm@reid.econ.lsa.umich.edu> <4n5g3m$sjn@news4.digex.net>
If you have the NS/Intel 3.2 (or probably even 3.1) CD's available, just
install the appropriate package from the CD. Quotations.app works just
fine under NS/Intel 3.3. The only problem I have with Quotaions.app is
finding the "Author" button that the helps tells me I should push when I
want to do a search on a particular author. It's just not there. :-)
--
Robert C. Doss, Jr.
California State University, Sacramento
e-mail: dossr@csus.edu (MIME & NeXTMail o.k.)
WWW: http://www.gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~dossr Facsimile: (707) 253-3063
From: asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC Demo where?
Date: 13 May 1996 19:10:29 GMT
Organization: International Turnkey Systems
Message-ID: <4n81f5$mp@info.itsq8.com>
References: <4n0hqi$f2@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
> BTW: Is an update planned to Windows95 in the nearer future?
>
> I consider buying SoftPC but certainly won't do if can't get Windows 95
> in the long run.
Amen. All neat stuff is on Win95 now.
From: bsmith@rmi.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Omniweb 2.0 and asian fonts
Date: 14 May 1996 02:52:15 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Inc.
Message-ID: <4n8sgv$2f7@natasha.rmii.com>
I want to be able to view japanese and chinese charater web pages. What do
I need to get to set this up? Where can I get fonts and components to do
this?
- Brian K. Smith
email: bsmith@rmi.net
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WebObjects and Microsoft IIS?
Date: 14 May 1996 09:32:51 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Message-ID: <4n9k03$151d@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960513114202.30163A-100000@cybert1.cybertron.at>
Philipp Ott (philipp@cybertron.at) wrote:
> Did anybody out there solve the riddle how to make WebObjects 1.0 work
> under Micrsofts Internet Information Server?
I seem to remember you have to make a copy of DefaultApp under the
name DefaultApp.exe (I might be wrong though, its been a while).
Please consult the WebObject documentation at www.next.com, it contains
tips and tricks such as the one above.
Cheers, Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.."
// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
// +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help with tin
Date: 14 May 1996 09:59:13 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Message-ID: <4n9lhh$1rj3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <4n7j0b$gh8@decaxp.HARVARD.EDU>
Sean Varah (cello@virgil) wrote:
> As you can see, my tin program running on Intel, doesn't include
> the domain name of my computer in the reply-to address. In my
> tinrc file I've set it to my real email address, cello@mario.harvard.edu,
> but this doesn't show up.
I have fixed it by recompiling tin and setting the "DOMAIN" variable
in the Makefile. However, I've decided to uhm.. massage it a bit, in
order to keep from being entered into junk email lists.
Hope this helps,
Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.."
// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
// +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How does Mail.app find new mail? Need to change it.
Date: 14 May 1996 10:03:51 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <4n9lq7$bg1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
I am the only NeXTStep user on a large mixed network of mainly various
other kinds of Unix. The manager of the network has lots of neat new ways
for users' MUA's to pick up mail. Unfortunately, he wishes to phase out
the old Unix method that Mail.app assumes (i.e. everything in a file called
mbox). Does anybody have any ideas of what I can do about this? I would
prefer to cooperate with the regime. Nobody here is keen on the use of
POP, so PopOver is not an alternative. Please help me keep the NeXTStep
flag flying. Thank you.
William Clocksin
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: frank@OneVision.de (Frank Pohl)
Subject: Re: Appsoft Image.app
Message-ID: <DrCn9D.1y9@onevision.de>
Sender: news@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 15:05:37 GMT
In comp.sys.next.software article <4n09kn$nqa@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Stan wrote:
> Gregory Grant writes
> >
> > Can someone tell me where to contact the Appsoft Image.app people?
> > I want to find out how much it is, but I can't find them
> > anywhere. Web Word searches only turns up Japanese.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Greg
>
> Appsoft is out of business for a long time now. And AppsoftImage was
> given out for free because nobody wanted it anyway, it's average running
> time was around 2 minutes.
>
> Out of all the imaging apps which could be called as such, only TIFFany
> is still around (and it's the best one, but I may be a bit biased here
> :-) They are @ tiffany@afs.com
>
Also there is OV-Image (ex CRANACH) from OneVision.
Image Module (with Image Tools) of Trialog and ePScript.
======================================================================
Frank Pohl OneVision GmbH
Florian-Seidl-Strasse 11
Email: frank@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg
(NeXTMail and MIME welcome) Germany
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SoftPC Demo where?
Date: 14 May 1996 11:56:30 GMT
Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main
Message-ID: <4n9sde$ip@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <4n0hqi$f2@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <4n81f5$mp@info.itsq8.com>
asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan) wrote:
> > BTW: Is an update planned to Windows95 in the nearer future?
> >
> > I consider buying SoftPC but certainly won't do if can't get Windows 95
> > in the long run.
>
> Amen. All neat stuff is on Win95 now.
Right. That's why I want to buy a SoftPC with Win95. So what??
Bye
Uli
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_____________________________________________________________________
From: osg@onramp.net (Glenda )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mentors and Developers
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 15:18:03 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4na147$9gc@nntp.onramp.net>
NeXT MENTORS AND DEVELOPERS
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Because OSG has a proven successful OO process and a reputation for
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We currently have assignments in the NE for April, May, and June in
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From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Where can I get NeXTStep screenshots?
Date: 14 May 1996 18:03:46 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4nahu2$1or@nntp.onramp.net>
References: <DqwvHH.19v@burgond.remcomp.fr>
> Ckmak & Duncan Mak <ckmak@hkucc.hku.hk> writes:
> > Where can I get screenshots of the NeXTStep OS?
Check out http://www.next.com/ and look under "OpenStep" and NeXTstep.
NeXT has a bunch of screen shots there.
--
Steve Dekorte "Java, the COBOL of the 90s"
NeXTstep consultant - Anaheim, CA
mailto:dekorte@suite.com (NeXTmail,MIME)
http://www.batech.com/~dekorte/dekorte/index.html
From: jacques.garbi@colombus.ch (Jacques Garbi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What are the cheats code for DOOM ?
Date: 10 May 1996 17:25:50 GMT
Organization: Colombus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4mvu6u$nra@news.petrel.ch>
Hi,
Can you please send me the cheat codes for Doom played on NS 3.3 in
network game ?
I have the code idkfa, etc.. but they only work in single-user mode,
not in network mode.
Thanks for your help
--
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Colombus Inc.
Av. de France 33
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
Phone : 011 41 21 661 16 76
Fax : 011 41 21 661 16 73
NeXTMail or MIME : jacques.garbi@colombus.ch
From: ver65osc@email.sjsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help: Omniweb graphics don't display
Date: 15 May 1996 20:25:25 GMT
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <4ndejl$olr@nuke.csu.net>
I am using a 040 cube w/ omniweb 1.0 and graphics don't display.
Anyone got any ideas?????
Any help greatly appreciated.
Me :)
From: nb562@bard.edu (Noel Bush)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NeXT laserprinter prints blanks
Date: 14 May 1996 20:58:46 GMT
Organization: Bard College, Annandale-on-Hudson, New York 12504
Message-ID: <4nas66$74m@core.bard.edu>
I have just connected a NeXT laserprinter to an 040 NeXTstation running
NS3.2. The printer is not working properly: When I print a document from
any application, or send a test PostScript file to the printer, or use
PrintManager.app's test page function, the printer feeds a sheet but does
not printer anything on it. The previous owner says that the printer was
printing properly just a week ago.
I have examined /usr/adm/lpd-errs, and found nothing suspicious. The
on-line docs do not help beyond that. I cannot find a NeXTanswer related
to this subject.
Has anyone encountered this problem, and/or does anybody have any
suggestions?
Thanks,
Noel Bush
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Appsoft Image.app
Date: 14 May 1996 21:31:50 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4nau46$41g@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4mvoei$i2k@netnews.upenn.edu> <4n09kn$nqa@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <4n09kn$nqa@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
On 05/10/96, Stan Jirman wrote:
> Out of all the imaging apps which could be called as such, only TIFFany
> is still around (and it's the best one, but I may be a bit biased here
> :-) They are @ tiffany@afs.com
>
Umm, maybe your definition of "imaging app" is a bit tight here -- I'd say
WetPaint (from Lighthouse) is worthy...
Since Gregory's from an edu site, he can get that, and a whole CD full of
Lighthouse's other excellent apps for something around $99.
Depending on what you want, it might even be that using, say, Create, in
conjunction with GSCorps' TIFFPrinter (cf eXTRAPRINT at
http://www.gscorp.com) would be a better bet...
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: relational db needed
Date: 14 May 1996 21:45:12 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4naut8$4fi@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4mm5ki$arc@news.tamu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4mm5ki$arc@news.tamu.edu>
On 05/07/96, Stephen Johnson wrote:
> I need a relational database for NSFIP 3.3. I only have a single machine
> right now, so I really don't want to spend $1000s for the likes of Sybase.
> Or is there some kind of front-end like EOF or DBKit that could tweek
> spreadsheets and text files into a 'relational' type of db?
> I would think something like this would have a reasonable demand.
>
If you're just after a "lite" database, you could look out for mSQL.
It works, and there's an EOF adapter for it.
> Does anyone have an email address for OpenBase International?
>
cf announcement below,
Best wishes,
mmalc.
From: Scott Keith <scott@QuickBase.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce
Subject: PRESS RELEASE: OPENBASE 5.0 SHIPS! QuickBase 4.1h upgrades
available.
Date: 9 May 1996 17:30:43 -0400
Organization: Next Announcements
Reply-To: info@openbase.com
CONTACT:
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Francestown NH 03043 USA
TEL: 603.547.8404 FAX:603.547.2423
E-MAIL: info@openbase.com
WEB SITE: http://www.openbase.com
Francestown, N.H., May 8, 1996
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database. Upgrades are available for current QuickBase 4.1 owners.
OpenBase replaces the popular QuickBase product and offers a number
of advantages over its predecessor. These advantages include:
- Fast server initialization
- Full subquery and view support
- Alter table support
- Improved data integrity enforcement
- Better performance and query optimization
- New numerical rowid column
- Improved unique index support
- Improved Objective-C API
- Improved documentation
OpenBase also comes with new graphical tools for designing and
altering database schemas, managing user access and viewing database
information. The new OpenBase manager provides everything you need
to build and manage your databases.
OpenBase is available under NeXTSTEP 3.3 and OpenStep for Mach,
and will soon be available on OpenStep for Windows NT and OpenStep
for Solaris. OpenBase also works with WebObjects, available from
NeXT Software.
Electronic orders may be placed using our secure E-MAIL order
application available at the web site. VISA and MASTERCARD are
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From: botka@cgl.ucsf.edu (Cristopher Botka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fiend1.4.1 + Backspace Neversleep??
Date: 14 May 1996 22:25:04 GMT
Organization: UCSF, ITS
Message-ID: <4nb180$14cb@itssrv1.ucsf.edu>
Is there a way to set backspace to "neversleep"? I see ther is a sleep
corner, but...I don't want to have to shut off backspace just to keep it
starting while I read something.
Thanks,
Chris
From: haverber@winternet.com (Bill Haverberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Friend on a tight budget needs help with black broken keyboard - he can't post either
Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 00:27:02 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc
Message-ID: <4nb81m$mdl@blackice.winternet.com>
A friend of mine has a black-hardware next and has a rather serious
problem with his mouse (doesn't work) and his keyboard (all y
keystrokes map to the number 7).
He needs 1) some software that will let him remap his keyboard, or 2)
a REAL CHEAP replacement for the mouse and/or keyboard. The keyboard
problem is preventing him from accessing the newsgroups so I promised
to do so for him...I know absolutely zilch about next except that its
supposed to be one of those really cool power systems or something
like that (Bill Gates didn't write it so that is one point in its
favor :)
Anyways, apparently this is the kind of hardware where he can't just
walk into a goodwill and grab one off a junked PC or apple.
Oh, and if there is software that lets him map his mouse to the
keyboard that would be really neat as well.
I am going to make an effort to keep up with this newsgroup, but since
its not my area of expertise or interest I probably won't be keeping
up with it everyday. I would appreciate it if any respondants would
EMail me at haverber@winternet.com and I will forward whatever I get.
Thanks :)
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Appsoft Image.app
Date: 15 May 1996 02:42:35 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Message-ID: <4nbgar$emg@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
References: <4nau46$41g@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes
> On 05/10/96, Stan Jirman wrote:
> > Out of all the imaging apps which could be called as such, only
> > TIFFany is still around (and it's the best one, but I may be
> > a bit biased here :-) They are @ tiffany@afs.com
> >
> Umm, maybe your definition of "imaging app" is a bit tight here
> -- I'd say WetPaint (from Lighthouse) is worthy...
Well, as another person told me in private email exchange: if you want a
toy to play with, get WetPaint. If you want to do image processing,
nothing goes past T2. The choice is yours, as always.
- Stan
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From: Jeff <jeff@pcd.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Equivalant to Quicken app for NExTStep?
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 02:54:15 -0700
Organization: Alternate Access Incorporated
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Is there an app. that is similar in funtion to either Quicken, or Money
on a nextstep platform? Something to do personal finances and track
investments and the like. I would like to surprise my brother with
something of this sort- he is always saying that if he could balance his
checkbook on his nextstep box that he would get rid of his intel
machine, and I of couarse would inherit it. But hey, it would still be
in the family. More so though would I like to give him an app of this
type since he reallly likes the nextstep platform and it would make his
day.
Many Thanks
Jerf
From: sl@skynet.oph.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Leuker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Xnext pb with colors
Date: 15 May 1996 18:38:22 GMT
Organization: RWTH -Aachen / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik
Message-ID: <4nd8au$iov@news.rwth-aachen.de>
References: <4n71k7$rg5@babylone.int-evry.fr>
Babou wrote:
>I've just tried Xnext for Intel. All seem to work except the colors.
>twm can't find the colors and I can't see anything on my xterm.
>Is there someone who tried to install Xnext ? please help me.
This is because the color database isn't in intel format.
hppa, next, and sparc use a different byte format than intel.
There will be a Xnext fix for intel boxes soon (next week, I think).
This will be a server update that will fix some bit-/pixmap probs,
too.
Later,
Stefan
PS: For further information on Xnext, see
http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~leuker/Xnext/
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: HELP! - NEXT cube setup
From: MMower@Novell.com (Mathew Mower)
Organization: Your Organization
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Date: 15 May 96 21:33:26 GMT
OK, OK, I admit that I have no idea what's going on. I'm a newbie.
But . . .
At work, I have inherited a NEXT cube, model N1000A.
I also have a Dimension AV board and a MegaPixel color display.
Could some one please offer me some advice on how to do the following:
1- I would like to change the password on this system. I'm locked out
currently.If this is not possible, what do I need to reconfigure and
set up this unit?
2- I would like to install the Dimension AV card and use the color display.
I have tried installing the card and connecting the monitor. All I get
is a blank screen on the B&W, nothing on the color monitor. Do I need
to have the B&W monitor connected as well? If not, how would I connect
the keyboard and mouse?
3- Are there any web sites that would have shareware for this unit?
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks
MMower@Novell.com
PS I also have a N1000 (I think) pizza box NEXT. I have the password as the
previous user gave it to me before he left. How do I change the name and
account?
Thanks again.
MM
From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com (Mark Tarbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Omniweb 2.0 and asian fonts
Date: 15 May 1996 21:59:25 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA
Message-ID: <4ndk3u$10j@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov>
References: <4n8sgv$2f7@natasha.rmii.com>
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Cc: bsmith@rmi.net
In <4n8sgv$2f7@natasha.rmii.com> bsmith@rmi.net wrote, in part:
> I want to be able to view japanese and chinese charater web pages. What do
> I need to get to set this up? Where can I get fonts and components to do
> this?
You can obtain the Chinese font "KaiSu" from:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/pub/next/binaries/chinese/fonts/KaiSu.pkg_0.7.tar
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/pub/next/binaries/chinese/fonts/KaiSu.pkg_0.7.tar.readme
This is a .pkg installation. The font works well. Just set the font in
OmniWeb to Kaisu.
For Japanese, there is no corresponding font or package; you have to buy the
Japanese version of NEXTSTEP. In theory, there ought to be a way to convert
input JIS code into a font, using the edict Japanese dictionary and Kaisu
font tables for lookup. But, that would take some time! :)
Good luck!
Mark
From: terry-moore@utk.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Apps for Openstep for NT?
Date: 15 May 1996 22:05:23 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Message-ID: <4ndkf3$7qt@gaia.ns.utk.edu>
Does anyone know whether or not key application development companies (e.g.
Lighthouse Design) are planning to port their applicatons to Openstep for NT.
Since Openstep allegedly provides source code compatibility across platforms,
porting to all Openstep platforms should not be all that difficult. But of
course that doesn't mean it will happen. Anyone have any news of plans on
this front.
Terry Moore
terry-moore@utk.edu
From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Adaptec AHA-2920 PCI - SCSI Controller
Date: 15 May 1996 21:55:03 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ndjrn$p8p@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Keywords: Controller,Adaptec
Can anyone tell me if the Adaptec AHA-2920 PCI will work under NeXTSTep 3.3? If so what driver pkg do I use?
Thank's in advance,
David A. Johnson
Research Engineer,
Feinberg Cardiovascular Research Institute
Northwestern University
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From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail.app Header
Date: 16 May 1996 04:14:28 GMT
Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Charlotte, NC - info@char.vnet.net
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4nea34$om7@ralph.vnet.net>
References: <4n2rji$836@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
In article <4n2rji$836@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Darren Reely
<dreely@cyberstore.ca> writes:
> You'll see your FROM key in and address. In the Other Addressed for Self
box [sic]
> type your return address.
>
> Then give it a test.
You have to rebuild the table_of_contents file to see the changes. Just
close the mailbox, delete the table_of_contents file, and Mail will rebuild
it the next time you open the mailbox.
--
Roland Telfeyan
roland@telf.com
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.3 routing?
Date: 16 May 1996 04:18:04 GMT
Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Charlotte, NC - info@char.vnet.net
Distribution: world
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References: <17496128.76671.7662@kcbbs.gen.nz>
In article <17496128.76671.7662@kcbbs.gen.nz> writes:
> I have two UNIX machines at home, one a NeXT and one a PC running (for
> now, and until NeXTSTEP JAVA is read). I would rather use the NeXT for
> a PPP connection and route the traffic via the NeXT to the PPP link, but
> the various online manuals have no real info on how you go about it and
> it's *DEFINITELY* somewhat different to the LINUX commands ie:
> /sbin/route .....
>
> Anyway had huge success with this and like to share their script w/ me?
> :-)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
Consult the next-ppp mailing list. Send a message to
listproc@chinx1.thoughtport.com with subject "subscribe next-ppp <your
email address>"
--
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roland@telf.com
From: <>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DTR-1 OTIVESA program (driver)
Date: 15 May 1996 18:58:16 GMT
Organization: News Server at UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education.
Message-ID: <4nd9g8$s8r@news.uni-c.dk>
DTR-1 OTIVESA program (driver), urgent help needed
Im the owner of a Dauphin DTR-1, but fore some reason I have lost my Software Utility disk, and
what is worse my backup to.
Now I am in desperate search of the OTIVESA program and whatever comes with it.
Can anyone help me out of this mess ? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Im looking foreword to hear anything that can bring me closer to achieving the program.
Klaus Hall
e-mail:klaus.hall@86999599.da.diatel.dk
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unix mail vs. NeXTMail
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 10:12:43 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515100852.4389H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4n0sev$a5p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
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To: james beauchamp <beaucham@uiuc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4n0sev$a5p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
On 11 May 1996, james beauchamp wrote:
> Normally I use Unix mail, but occasionally I use NeXTMail if I need to send
> or receive an attached file. For ordinary use I find Unix mail much faster and
> convenient, and it's the only way if I'm logged in remotely. If I do use
> NeXTMail, I try to make sure my regular mail is cleaned out, because otherwise
> it automatically transfers to the NeXTMail buffer, whereever that is.
> However, if I'm using OmniWeb and I want to send a note to someone by clicking
> on his address, it automatically throws me into NeXTMail. Today I did this
> and forgot that I hadn't cleaned up my regular mail, so it ALL transferred
> into NeXTMail. Is there some way I can get it back for use with Unix mail?
> (NeXTMail doesn't help when you're logged in remotely.)
Inside your Mailboxes folder there should be an 'Active.mbox' folder.
Inside that folder is a file called 'mbox' which has all of the mail you
are looking for. The only thing which is different is NeXTMail messages.
What you really need to do is go to Mail.app's preference and turn OFF the
auo-retrieval of mail. That way you can start up Mail.app and it will
leave /usr/spool/mail/$USER alone.
> Also, is there a convenient way to save a particular NeXTMail note to a
> particular file? I've been doing it by paste, and it's clumsy compared to
> the 's' command in Unix mail.
I don't think so.
> Jim Beauchamp
>
> j-beauch@uiuc.edu
You might want to use 'pine' which is very convenient, and also allows
for such niceties as setting 'reply-to' lines.
TjL
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lipo and/or Double Sided Printing?
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 10:15:42 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515101324.4389I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4n31qd$mhf@news3.digex.net>
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To: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <4n31qd$mhf@news3.digex.net>
On 11 May 1996, John Kheit wrote:
> 1) Xanthus, a while back when they released version 1 of OpenWrite, also
> put out a program to 'thin' fat binaries.
Yeah it's called 'thinner.app'
Problem is that it refuses to realize that /bin/lipo exists (and trust me,
it does). For some reason it refuses to see it, and so I can't use it.
Pretty crappy design, if you ask me.
Try MetroSuction (except I don't think it handles SPARC).
TjL
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Thinner.app
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 10:19:10 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515101635.4389J-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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Hmm..
I've got a copy of Thinner.app on my 3.2 slab with user & dev installed.
When I try to launch Thinner.app it tells me it can't find /bin/lipo (it's
there! It's readable! It's executable! Hell it's even writeable!)
Then it dies.
Anyone else seen this? Fixed this?
TjL
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fiend1.4.1 + Backspace Neversleep??
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 10:22:45 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515102145.4389K-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4nb180$14cb@itssrv1.ucsf.edu>
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To: Cristopher Botka <botka@cgl.ucsf.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4nb180$14cb@itssrv1.ucsf.edu>
On 14 May 1996, Cristopher Botka wrote:
> Is there a way to set backspace to "neversleep"? I see ther is a sleep
> corner, but...I don't want to have to shut off backspace just to keep it
> starting while I read something.
Sounds like you want to turn off the screen saver/locker feature and just
lock it when you want to do it manually.
Either run Backspace.app and change the preferences or fiddle with the
dwrites on the commandline.
TjL
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From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.3 routing?
Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 06:16:40 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
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References: <4nea9s$orq@ralph.vnet.net>
> In article <17496128.76671.7662@kcbbs.gen.nz> writes:
> > I have two UNIX machines at home, one a NeXT and one a PC running (for
> > now, and until NeXTSTEP JAVA is read). I would rather use the NeXT
for
> > a PPP connection and route the traffic via the NeXT to the PPP link,
but
> > the various online manuals have no real info on how you go about it
and
> > it's *DEFINITELY* somewhat different to the LINUX commands ie:
> > /sbin/route .....
I suspect you'll need rather more help if you haven't got this far, but
you are right, there isn't a /sbin/route on NeXTSTEP. There is
/etc/route, though.
Paul
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From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Equivalant to Quicken app for NExTStep?
Date: 16 May 1996 09:16:24 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4nerp8$fus@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <3199A9C7.43C2@pcd.net>
In-Reply-To: <3199A9C7.43C2@pcd.net>
On 05/15/96, Jeff wrote:
> Is there an app. that is similar in funtion to either Quicken, or Money
> on a nextstep platform? Something to do personal finances and track
> investments and the like.
>
Stone Design's CheckSum:
http://www.stone.com/CheckSum.html
"CheckSum(TM) by Andreas Glocker is a NEXTSTEP program for the single user or
small business owner who has basic accounting needs. CheckSum tracks
expenses, income, property and cash, and provides Income Statements and
Balance Sheets. CheckSum balances your checkbook and prints checks."
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: aisbell@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apps for Openstep for NT?
Date: 16 May 1996 02:13:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ne300$ib9@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
References: <4ndkf3$7qt@gaia.ns.utk.edu>
terry-moore@utk.edu wrote:
> Does anyone know whether or not key application development companies (e.g.
> Lighthouse Design) are planning to port their applicatons to Openstep for
NT.
> Since Openstep allegedly provides source code compatibility across
platforms,
> porting to all Openstep platforms should not be all that difficult. But of
> course that doesn't mean it will happen. Anyone have any news of plans on
> this front.
While all OpenStep-compliant apps should run on all OpenStep platforms
with just a rebuild, few shipping OpenStep-compliant apps currently exist
because no complete OpenStep development environment exists. Converting
NEXTSTEP apps to OpenStep won't necessarily be trivial despite the promise of
automated conversion tools by NeXT.
Some current NEXTSTEP functionality isn't supported in OpenStep, so
non-standard OpenStep extensions or platform-dependent implementations may be
required reducing portability among platforms.
So commercial developers must weigh the cost of conversion against the
existing competition from apps already running on what will be
OpenStep-compliant operating systems such as NT and Solaris. The competition
in the NT world will undoubtedly be stiff with many large companies with big
marketing and sales budgets already established as Windows software vendors.
The likely cost of OpenStep Developer and the necessary user environment will
make competition based on price even more difficult for OpenStep developers.
It appears that NeXT is continuing to concentrate on the mission-critical
application market which doesn't include shrink-wrap applications. I'm not
confident that many NT or Solaris users will ever run an OpenStep app, and if
they do, they probably won't be aware that they are. So I don't believe
OpenStep will propel NeXT into the mainstream at all.
--
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From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: Omniweb graphics don't display
Date: 16 May 1996 09:24:24 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4nes88$g3p@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4ndejl$olr@nuke.csu.net>
In-Reply-To: <4ndejl$olr@nuke.csu.net>
On 05/15/96, ver65osc@email.sjsu.edu wrote:
> I am using a 040 cube w/ omniweb 1.0 and graphics don't display.
>
A couple of things:
If you want to stick with OmniWeb 1.0, you should also get hold of an image
conversion filter, such as OmniImage.
Better, though, grab OmniWeb 2.0, which has the filters built in, and a whole
lot more besides.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: tony@gst1.gestel.it (Antonio Flores)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Wacom tablet driver
Date: 15 May 1996 11:37:18 GMT
Organization: Italia Online
Message-ID: <4ncfle$hbi@mikasa.iol.it>
Is there a Wacom tablet driver available?
Thanks for help.
--------------
Antonio Flores
tony@gestel.it
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mail.app -- editing contents for storage
Date: 16 May 1996 13:04:13 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc.
Message-ID: <4nf94e$c30@dropit.pgh.net>
Previous versions of Mail.app did not allow you to edit messages. As
near as i can tell 3.3 does not permit tis either. Am I missing
something?
The last time I asked, a couple of years ago, somebody wanted to know
why I would want to do that. Simple. If I am archiving (saving)
something of interest, usually I do not want the entire message. I
like to delete the stuff I don't want to save, including parts of the
headers, and save the rest. This is easy in Unix mail.
Okay, I suppose I could use Unix mail on the mbox file, but that
defeats the entire purpose. If I am going to do that, I can continue
to use Unix mail folders. They are faster and a lot more convenient.
-----
Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883
me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305)
Subject: Re: Thinner.app
Message-ID: <1996May16.124926.5713@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Date: Thu, 16 May 96 12:49:26 GMT
References: <4n31qd$mhf@news3.digex.net> <4n3t7b$sev@news3.digex.net> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515101635.4389J-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA
In article <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515101635.4389J-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu writes:
>I've got a copy of Thinner.app on my 3.2 slab with user & dev installed.
>
>When I try to launch Thinner.app it tells me it can't find /bin/lipo (it's
>there! It's readable! It's executable! Hell it's even writeable!)
>
>Then it dies.
>
>Anyone else seen this? Fixed this?
I have a cube and it worked for me under 3.2. I just launched it under
3.3 and it came up fine. I don't have anything I want to thin so I was
not able actually to try it, but your message said it wouldn't even
load.
I can't imagine how this could work or even happen, but is /bin readable?
--
Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320
rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)]
There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well
please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take
the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: aisbell@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lipo and/or Double Sided Printing?
Date: 16 May 1996 14:59:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4nffso$7p4@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>
References: <4n31qd$mhf@news3.digex.net> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515101324.4389I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> On 11 May 1996, John Kheit wrote:
>
> > 1) Xanthus, a while back when they released version 1 of OpenWrite, also
> > put out a program to 'thin' fat binaries.
>
> Yeah it's called 'thinner.app'
>
> Problem is that it refuses to realize that /bin/lipo exists (and trust me,
> it does). For some reason it refuses to see it, and so I can't use it.
> Pretty crappy design, if you ask me.
Although Xanthus is no longer with us, I think I should defend its honor
in light of this likely case of mistaken identity. The Xanthus stripping app
is named "XanthusStripper", not "thinner".
XanthusStripper works great! It scans all executables within an app
wrapper and strips everything correctly or creates a MAB containing a subset
of the original architectures.
--
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From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lipo and/or Double Sided Printing?
Date: 16 May 1996 17:33:13 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-42.usc.edu
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References: <4n31qd$mhf@news3.digex.net> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515101324.4389I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Cc: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
In <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515101324.4389I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
> On 11 May 1996, John Kheit wrote:
>
> > 1) Xanthus, a while back when they released version 1 of OpenWrite, also
> > put out a program to 'thin' fat binaries.
>
> Yeah it's called 'thinner.app'
>
> Problem is that it refuses to realize that /bin/lipo exists (and trust me,
> it does). For some reason it refuses to see it, and so I can't use it.
> Pretty crappy design, if you ask me.
>
> Try MetroSuction (except I don't think it handles SPARC).
There is also a TickleServices Service called Lipo which does recognize SPARC
and everything else, and of course neatly fits into services menu, so one
doesn't have to start up a separate app. Has nice features for examination of
files and stuff, not just a plain vanilla service.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
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From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] Is there a free Quick Time viewer for NeXT?
Date: 16 May 1996 17:48:44 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <4nfpps$dd6@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I'm looking for a public domain Quick Time viewer for NeXT.
Does it exist? I have a TurboColor running NS 3.2, in case
that makes a difference.
Thanks,
David Finton
finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apps for Openstep for NT?
Date: 16 May 1996 19:15:24 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4nfusc$4g9@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>
References: <4ndkf3$7qt@gaia.ns.utk.edu> <4ne300$ib9@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
Art Isbell (aisbell@cubicsol.com) wrote:
: It appears that NeXT is continuing to concentrate on the mission-critical
: application market which doesn't include shrink-wrap applications. I'm not
: confident that many NT or Solaris users will ever run an OpenStep app, and if
: they do, they probably won't be aware that they are. So I don't believe
: OpenStep will propel NeXT into the mainstream at all.
One point. Applications for OPENSTEP/Solaris could hit it big. Right now,
WordPerfect or a simple drawing program is expensive for Solaris. If
Lighthouse ports their products to OS like they indicate that they are, then
their $99 Academic CD would be a HUGE bargain for productivity apps on Suns.
It would probably still be a bargain if the OS runtime is included in the
cost.
This is personally motivated. I use a Sun at work every day and mostly free
X-Window based software is good enough. However, if I could just have
Diagram! and Quantrix on my Sun, I'd finally have an option when my
beloved NeXTStation finally dies. NT is useless to me until all of the
GNU/Xwindow/LaTeX world is ported to it and it looks and feels like UNIX.
......................................................................
: Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin :
: kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 :
:....................................................................:
From: nick@bcog.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TiffanyII Web Resource?
Date: 16 May 1996 21:29:26 GMT
Organization: Cyberstore Systems Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ng6nm$5jg@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
References: <4n5ksp$4tq@hasle.sn.no> <4n7jha$ba0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
Cc: steve@nm-ltd.com
In <4n7jha$ba0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Steve Weintz wrote:
> In article <4n5ksp$4tq@hasle.sn.no> eidolon@sn.no writes:
> > A while back there were some discussion in this group re. startup of a
www
> > site for users of the Tiffany package. What has this resulted in?
> >
> > Are there any books avail that covers this piece of software?
> >
>
> I'm one of those folks who were discussing such a resource. I still want
> to get it going, but work pressures and a dispute with our former ISP is
> holding it up. Michael Rutchik of Clorox may get his resource up soon.
>
>
>
What about www.bcog.org ? Lots of disk space...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: Sean Willson <sean_willson@il.us.swissbank.com>
Subject: OmniWeb, Netscape, and MIME types
Message-ID: <1996May16.214513.19600@il.us.swissbank.com>
Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator)
Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division
Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 21:45:13 GMT
Fellow NeXT Users,
I have the following problem, I have several Microsoft Word documents
sitting on a web server. I create pages with links to those docs and
open those pages in both Netscape and OmniWeb. When I select the link
in either of the two applications they both display the file in the
browser. In Netscape a new mime-type was defined to open Word, although
I am not sure if it was done properly. In OmniWeb, the .doc file has
a default application of OpenWrite.app yet in both cases the browser
ALWAYS displays the output (mangled obviously) in the browser window
instead of spawning an external viewer.
Is there some reason for this. It is imperative that doc's sit on the
web server and can be served up. Can someone make some suggestions?
This seems so basic and straight forward, yet persists!!!!
I am sure this problem has been dealt with before.....thanks.
Sean Willson
--
____________________________________________________________________
Sean M. Willson sean_willson@il.us.swissbank.com
Swiss Bank Corp. NeXT, MIME, and ascii
141 West Jackson Boulevard Chicago, Illinois 60604 (312) 554-5399
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] Is there a free Quick Time viewer for NeXT?
Date: 16 May 1996 22:18:03 GMT
Organization: ipc, U of Tuebingen, Germany
Message-ID: <4ng9ir$adt@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>
References: <4nfpps$dd6@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Cc: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu
In <4nfpps$dd6@spool.cs.wisc.edu> David Finton wrote:
> I'm looking for a public domain Quick Time viewer for NeXT.
> Does it exist? I have a TurboColor running NS 3.2, in case
> that makes a difference.
Movie3.0 can do this (without sound). You may find it on peanuts.
--
Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page
http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank
NeXTSTEP, Linux & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C
ga ga"
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unix mail vs. NeXTMail
Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 20:27:43 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996May16.202743.4129@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515100852.4389H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article
<Pine.NXT.3.93.960515100852.4389H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
> On 11 May 1996, james beauchamp wrote:
> > Also, is there a convenient way to save a particular NeXTMail note to
a
> > particular file? I've been doing it by paste, and it's clumsy compared
to
> > the 's' command in Unix mail.
>
> I don't think so.
Services->Edit->Save Selection does the job quite well. You can allocate
a Command key combination to it if it matters that much.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsGrazer Organization: preference
Date: 17 May 1996 01:26:24 GMT
Organization: This is the field I'm talking about, but I don't want to have to type this manually for each message!
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ngkk0$d28@ralph.vnet.net>
Hi,
Is there any way to set a default preference for the Organization: field in
NewsGrazer, without having to manually type it in the "More Fields..."
panel on each outgoing message?
--
Roland Telfeyan
roland@telf.com
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Thinner.app
Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 10:23:39 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960516102156.3551F-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4n31qd$mhf@news3.digex.net> <4n3t7b$sev@news3.digex.net> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515101635.4389J-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1996May16.124926.5713@investor.pgh.pa.us>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: Bob Peirce #305 <rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us>
In-Reply-To: <1996May16.124926.5713@investor.pgh.pa.us>
On Thu, 16 May 1996, Bob Peirce #305 wrote:
> In article <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515101635.4389J-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu writes:
> >I've got a copy of Thinner.app on my 3.2 slab with user & dev installed.
> >
> >When I try to launch Thinner.app it tells me it can't find /bin/lipo (it's
> >there! It's readable! It's executable! Hell it's even writeable!)
> >
> >Then it dies.
> >
> >Anyone else seen this? Fixed this?
>
> I have a cube and it worked for me under 3.2. I just launched it under
> 3.3 and it came up fine. I don't have anything I want to thin so I was
> not able actually to try it, but your message said it wouldn't even
> load.
>
> I can't imagine how this could work or even happen, but is /bin readable?
*nod*
/bin is perfectly fine, I can use any of the files in it (including
/bin/lipo) from the commandline.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma
Formerly known as: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail.app -- editing contents for storage
Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 10:34:05 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960516102523.3551G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4nf94e$c30@dropit.pgh.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us
In-Reply-To: <4nf94e$c30@dropit.pgh.net>
As far as I can tell there is no way to do this.
You can, of course, go into Somemailbox.mbox and edit the 'mbox' file
directly.
My guess is that the fastest way to accomplish this would be to write a
TickleService to use with TickleServices.app that will take the selected
text and paste it into a file (ie Somemailbox.mbox).
The drawback to this is that the text you want to save would have to be in
a block which could be highlighted.
So say I send you a message with 5 paragraphs. You want to keep paragraph
1 and 3. Select the FULL headers and paragraph 1 and click on the menu
item to save to a file. Select paragraph 3 and save to a file.
[ Note: you only need to save the full headers if you wish to make this
file readable by Mail.app ]
Not very simple, but the best I could do on short notice.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma
Formerly known as: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lipo and/or Double Sided Printing?
Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 14:47:29 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960516144619.519A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4n31qd$mhf@news3.digex.net> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515101324.4389I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4nffso$7p4@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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To: Art Isbell <aisbell@cubicsol.com>
In-Reply-To: <4nffso$7p4@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>
On 16 May 1996, Art Isbell wrote:
>
> Although Xanthus is no longer with us, I think I should defend its honor
> in light of this likely case of mistaken identity. The Xanthus stripping app
> is named "XanthusStripper", not "thinner".
>
> XanthusStripper works great! It scans all executables within an app
> wrapper and strips everything correctly or creates a MAB containing a subset
> of the original architectures.
Hmm.. Never heard of XanthusStripper... Where can one get a copy, or is
it no longer available?
Sorry for getting my names crossed...
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma
Formerly known as: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail.app -- editing contents for storage
Date: 17 May 1996 10:02:50 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4nhisa$b4c@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <4nf94e$c30@dropit.pgh.net> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960516102523.3551G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Cc: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
In <Pine.NXT.3.93.960516102523.3551G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
> My guess is that the fastest way to accomplish this would be to write a
> TickleService to use with TickleServices.app that will take the selected
> text and paste it into a file (ie Somemailbox.mbox).
>
> The drawback to this is that the text you want to save would have to be in
> a block which could be highlighted.
Did you know that if you select the mail message you are interested in in the
summary view, then copy it, you can paste the full message, with all headers,
straight into any acsii accepting app? NeXTmail messages will have an empty
body, just like they do in the mbox :-).
Paul
--
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Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems
Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unix mail vs. NeXTMail
Date: 17 May 1996 10:18:57 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4nhjqh$hq7@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515100852.4389H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1996May16.202743.4129@seer.demon.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <1996May16.202743.4129@seer.demon.co.uk>
On 05/16/96, Paul Lynch wrote:
> Services->Edit->Save Selection does the job quite well. You can allocate
> a Command key combination to it if it matters that much.
>
Is there a way of getting Edit to put selections into a non-RTF document?
This is the one thing which has stopped me using this service...
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unix mail vs. NeXTMail
Date: 17 May 1996 10:47:27 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4nhlfv$b4c@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515100852.4389H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1996May16.202743.4129@seer.demon.co.uk>
<4nhjqh$hq7@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
Cc: m.crawford@shef.ac.uk
In <4nhjqh$hq7@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford wrote:
> On 05/16/96, Paul Lynch wrote:
> > Services->Edit->Save Selection does the job quite well. You can allocate
> > a Command key combination to it if it matters that much.
> >
> Is there a way of getting Edit to put selections into a non-RTF document?
> This is the one thing which has stopped me using this service...
I thought that earlier versions saved in your Edit new document preference,
but I see this isn't the case with 3.3.
Paul
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Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems
Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: How does Mail.app find new mail? Need to change it.
Message-ID: <DrGnHv.Iy0@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: news@nidat.sub.org
Cc: William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4n9lq7$bg1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:01:07 GMT
In <4n9lq7$bg1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote:
> I am the only NeXTStep user on a large mixed network of mainly various
> other kinds of Unix. The manager of the network has lots of neat new ways
> for users' MUA's to pick up mail. Unfortunately, he wishes to phase out
> the old Unix method that Mail.app assumes (i.e. everything in a file called
> mbox). Does anybody have any ideas of what I can do about this? I would
> prefer to cooperate with the regime. Nobody here is keen on the use of
> POP, so PopOver is not an alternative. Please help me keep the NeXTStep
> flag flying. Thank you.
>
The only way I see ist to support your own BSD style mailhost on one of the
NeXTs, for instance. NeXTmail is heavily relying on the BSD style of mail
delivery. No way to change it to some other mechanism!
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fax for NextStep 3.3
Date: 17 May 1996 12:31:23 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4nhrir$b4c@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <4ngs7h$c0b@student.computer.org>
Cc: cz@alembic.crystel.com
In <4ngs7h$c0b@student.computer.org> Chris Zach wrote:
> Ever since 3.0, NextStep has had the feature to be able to send and receive
> Faxes through Faxmanager.
A lot earlier than that, certainly in 2.1.
> Recently I bought a US Robotics 28.8 Faxmodem that supports Class 2 faxing.
I
> hooked it up to the NextStation Color Turbo (used the right cable), and
> configured it in the Printer panel as a HSD Fax modem. Fired up an App, and
> tried to send a fax.
Class 2 is different from Class 2.0 (etc). Different releases of the spec
have moved on from the version that NeXT provided free drivers for, and all
of those old modems are now thoroughly obsolete. The only way to make faxing
work with modern modems is to buy NXFax, and use a compatable modem. USR,
for some reason, isn't compatable. The normal recommendation is to use a
ZyXEL, which gives slightly better performance with NXFax than anything else.
Paul
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Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems
Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lipo and/or Double Sided Printing?
Date: 17 May 1996 13:14:14 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <4nhu36$po4@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
References: <4n31qd$mhf@news3.digex.net> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515101324.4389I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4nffso$7p4@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960516144619.519A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960516144619.519A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
On 05/16/96, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
>On 16 May 1996, Art Isbell wrote:
>>
>> Although Xanthus is no longer with us, I think I should defend its honor
>> in light of this likely case of mistaken identity. The Xanthus stripping
app
>> is named "XanthusStripper", not "thinner".
>>
>> XanthusStripper works great! It scans all executables within an app
>> wrapper and strips everything correctly or creates a MAB containing a subset
>> of the original architectures.
>
>
>Hmm.. Never heard of XanthusStripper... Where can one get a copy, or is
>it no longer available?
>
>Sorry for getting my names crossed...
>
>TjL
>
Xanthus made XanthusStripper when it released its first version of OpenWrite.
Then few months later, Xanthus changed the name to Thinner. IMO, Thinner is a
lot better than XanthusStripper and more friendly too.
--
----------------
Yuwen Cheng
University of Arizona, Math
yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unix mail vs. NeXTMail
Date: 17 May 1996 13:28:42 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <4nhuua$jhe@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515100852.4389H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1996May16.202743.4129@seer.demon.co.uk> <4nhjqh$hq7@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <4nhjqh$hq7@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
On 05/16/96, mmalcolm crawford wrote:
>On 05/16/96, Paul Lynch wrote:
>> Services->Edit->Save Selection does the job quite well. You can allocate
>> a Command key combination to it if it matters that much.
>>
>Is there a way of getting Edit to put selections into a non-RTF document?
>This is the one thing which has stopped me using this service...
>
>Best wishes,
>
>mmalc.
>
I'd like to know that too. Please, post. TIA.
--
----------------
Yuwen Cheng
University of Arizona, Math
yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unix mail vs. NeXTMail
Date: 17 May 1996 16:54:55 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Sender: reichman@comserv-h-21.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4nib0v$37j@usc.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515100852.4389H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1996May16.202743.4129@seer.demon.co.uk>
<4nhjqh$hq7@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
Cc: m.crawford@shef.ac.uk
In <4nhjqh$hq7@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford wrote:
> On 05/16/96, Paul Lynch wrote:
> > Services->Edit->Save Selection does the job quite well. You can allocate
> > a Command key combination to it if it matters that much.
> >
> Is there a way of getting Edit to put selections into a non-RTF document?
> This is the one thing which has stopped me using this service...
Tickleservices offers two options: Save as ASCII (Command-Z), and Save as
RTF; and offers the neat-feature of "Append to", which works extremely well.
Very recommended.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
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From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Lipo and/or Double Sided Printing?
Date: 17 May 1996 16:56:52 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Sender: reichman@comserv-h-21.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4nib4k$37j@usc.edu>
References: <4n31qd$mhf@news3.digex.net> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515101324.4389I-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<4nffso$7p4@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960516144619.519A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Cc: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
In <Pine.NXT.3.93.960516144619.519A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy
J. Luoma" wrote:
> On 16 May 1996, Art Isbell wrote:
> >
> > Although Xanthus is no longer with us, I think I should defend its
honor
> > in light of this likely case of mistaken identity. The Xanthus stripping
app
> > is named "XanthusStripper", not "thinner".
> >
> > XanthusStripper works great! It scans all executables within an app
> > wrapper and strips everything correctly or creates a MAB containing a
subset
> > of the original architectures.
>
>
> Hmm.. Never heard of XanthusStripper... Where can one get a copy, or is
> it no longer available?
>
> Sorry for getting my names crossed...
Lipo.ts lets you strip out particular binaries one at a time, in a group or
all at once.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
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From: tjallen@theory1.physics.wisc.edu (Theodore J. Allen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem with Sequence, Stuart, and zsh
Date: 17 May 1996 16:48:22 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison
Message-ID: <4niakm$ui8@news.doit.wisc.edu>
I've been playing with the excellent Sequence.app released by
Pinnacle and CCRMA. I use the TurtleBeach Multisound Monterey
DSP card with it, using the new MusicKit 4.2 drivers included
with Sequence. I've noticed that when I play a large MIDI file
from Sequence through the DSP that afterwards command completion in
zsh in a Stuart window will take forever and use 100% system time
(as reported by KPerfMon). Has anyone else noticed this or am I
the only one? I should post my configuration here as well:
NEXTSTEP 3.3 unpatched running on a 486 EISA/VESA machine,
with the following drivers loaded:
0) EISA bus driver
1) Adaptec 154x Series SCSI Adapter
2) ATI Mach32 Display Adaptor
3) ISA Serial Port on COM1
4) Serial Pointing Device on Serial Port COM1
5) PS/2 Keyboard
6) Floppy Disk Drive
7) On Board Parallel Port
8) Mux v.1.7 on COM2
9) Pro Audio Spectrum Plus
10) Music Kit MIDI MPU-401 driver
11) Music Kit TurtleBeachMS DSP
12) PPP 2.2.0.1.9
--
Ted Allen, Ph.D.
High Energy Physics
University of Wisconsin-Madison
tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu
http://theory2.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/
From: msm@pswtech.com (Mark Mertel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unix mail vs. NeXTMail
Date: 17 May 1996 22:18:04 GMT
Organization: PSW Technologies
Message-ID: <4nitus$af9@digdug.pswtech.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515100852.4389H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1996May16.202743.4129@seer.demon.co.uk> <4nhjqh$hq7@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
>On 05/16/96, Paul Lynch wrote:
>> Services->Edit->Save Selection does the job quite well. You can allocate
>> a Command key combination to it if it matters that much.
>>
>Is there a way of getting Edit to put selections into a non-RTF document?
>This is the one thing which has stopped me using this service...
>
grab a copy of TickleServices. there's a service there to save a selection
as either ascii or rtf.
--
Mark Mertel Email: msm@pswtech.com
PSW Technologies Phone: (512) 343-6666
9050 Capital of Texas Hwy. N. FAX: (512) 343-9650
Austin, TX 78759 Home: (512) 847-2061
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] Is there a free Quick Time viewer for NeXT?
Date: 17 May 1996 22:27:44 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4niuh0$2m7@news.next.com>
References: <4nfpps$dd6@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
In article <4nfpps$dd6@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David
Finton) writes:
> I'm looking for a public domain Quick Time viewer for NeXT.
> Does it exist? I have a TurboColor running NS 3.2, in case
> that makes a difference.
NEXTIME is included in the OPENSTEP for Mach 4.0 User System software. It
does synchronized (within the bandwidth limits of your hardware) sound and
video playback of QuickTime movies in most compression formats.
There are also a few video only playback apps out on the NeXT FTP sites.
The ones I'm aware of support AVI and MPEG. Find these on the Peanuts FTP
server, via http://peanuts.leo.org/cgi-bin/peanuts-search-e.html
Mike Paquette
--
I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me.
"The Internet is an elite organization. Most of the people in the
world have never even made a phone call." -- Noam Chomsky
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apps for Openstep for NT?
Date: 17 May 1996 19:38:04 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4nikis$8n1@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4ndkf3$7qt@gaia.ns.utk.edu> <4ne300$ib9@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
aisbell@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) wrote:
> It appears that NeXT is continuing to concentrate on the
> mission-critical application market which doesn't include
> shrink-wrap applications. I'm not confident that many NT or
> Solaris users will ever run an OpenStep app, and if they do,
> they probably won't be aware that they are. So I don't believe
> OpenStep will propel NeXT into the mainstream at all.
I doubt we'll see OpenStep in the mainstream of WindowsNT
development, but OpenStep applications for Solaris might be be a
profitable niche. Of course, Solaris by itself isn't all that
mainstream, so I don't expect OpenStep to become a household word.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fax for NextStep 3.3
Date: 18 May 1996 00:53:09 GMT
Organization: ipc, U of Tuebingen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4nj71l$j1e@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>
References: <4ngs7h$c0b@student.computer.org>
Cc: cz@alembic.crystel.com
In <4ngs7h$c0b@student.computer.org> Chris Zach wrote:
> Ever since 3.0, NextStep has had the feature to be able to send and receive
> Faxes through Faxmanager.
>
> Recently I bought a US Robotics 28.8 Faxmodem that supports Class 2 faxing.
I
> hooked it up to the NextStation Color Turbo (used the right cable), and
> configured it in the Printer panel as a HSD Fax modem. Fired up an App, and
> tried to send a fax.
>
> It didn't work. The console gives an error saying that the Fax modem is not
> connected. I also tried the Interfax driver. That didn't work either. In
> fact, the modem lights never even blinked, which made me wonder if the Next
> was even talking to the modem...
There is a Class 2 FAX shareware driver (and a Class 2.0 which seems to be
different...) on peanuts, unfortunately it never worked for my USR modem.
Your mileage may vary, but if you can get it up please tell me how you did
it...
> Is there a FAQ anywhere on how to get a Class 2 Fax modem working under
> NextStep 3.3? Which driver do I use (InterFax, or HSD)?
No. Neither. Sorry.
--
Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page
http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank
NeXTSTEP, Linux & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C
ga ga"
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fax for NextStep 3.3
Date: 18 May 1996 04:33:55 GMT
Organization: HTI
Message-ID: <4njjvj$f4j@news.cais.com>
References: <4ngs7h$c0b@student.computer.org>
You need to purchase a third party product called "NXFax" from Black and
White Software. Contact info@bandw.com for more information.
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Unix mail vs. NeXTMail
Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 09:36:55 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960517093554.3093E-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960515100852.4389H-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1996May16.202743.4129@seer.demon.co.uk> <4nhjqh$hq7@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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To: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <4nhjqh$hq7@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
On 17 May 1996, mmalcolm crawford wrote:
> On 05/16/96, Paul Lynch wrote:
> > Services->Edit->Save Selection does the job quite well. You can allocate
> > a Command key combination to it if it matters that much.
> >
> Is there a way of getting Edit to put selections into a non-RTF document?
> This is the one thing which has stopped me using this service...
I believe there is a TickleService that comes with TickleServices.app
which does this. Not 100% sure, but think so.... Something like 'Save to
ASCII'
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma
Formerly known as: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Subject: Speaking English dictionary and grammar checker for NS
Message-ID: <DrLJwG.207@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN
Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 10:31:27 GMT
Hello,
I am almost buying "American Heritage Speaking Dictionary"
and English grammar checker for Windouze. Are any comparable
speaking dictionaries and grammar checkers available for NEXTSTEP
at reasonable price?
(Now you know I need English checker:-)
---
Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji
hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB)
From: eidolon@sn.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: IRC software needs compiler
Date: 18 May 1996 12:58:38 GMT
Organization: SN Internett
Message-ID: <4nkhhu$91h@hasle.sn.no>
I was wondering if someone with a compiler installed on their machine could
compile some software for me. I would like to have the *ircii-2.8.2* package
compiled for my system.
For the possible willing, I will ship the nessecary spec. files that needs to
be present prior to compilation. (I do hope this should be feasible...)
Hope to hear from you,
Ole Chr.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Speaking English dictionary and grammar checker for NS
Date: 18 May 1996 16:18:33 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4nkt8p$pr1@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <DrLJwG.207@papageno.rim.or.jp>
In-Reply-To: <DrLJwG.207@papageno.rim.or.jp>
On 05/18/96, Hiroshi TOMARU wrote:
> I am almost buying "American Heritage Speaking Dictionary"
> and English grammar checker for Windouze. Are any comparable
> speaking dictionaries and grammar checkers available for NEXTSTEP
> at reasonable price?
>
> (Now you know I need English checker:-)
> ---
A couple of ideas come to mind if all you want to do is synthesise the text?
If you're after something cheap and "cheerful", it should be possible to use
the public domain "say" programme -- it should also be possible to build a
service round it so you can select and synthesise anything you like.
If you're after something outstanding, state-of-the-art and of course it was
developed on NEXTSTEP first (as was, to a great extent, the first
"successful" speech recognition system, and the Web...) get a copy of
Trillium Research's SpeechKit. This is an *articulatory* rather than
formant-based synthesiser, and very impressive:
Contact David Hill: hill@trillium.ab.ca
Best wishes,
mmalc.
posn. research facilitator
where institute for language speech and hearing
sheffield university
west court
2 mappin street
sheffield s1 4dt
england
vox (+44) 114 282 5269
fax (+44) 114 278 0972
email m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk
NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome
PGP key available on request
http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/research/ilash/
--
From: lutzray@9bit.qc.ca (Raymond Lutz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: WebCopy perl script -> anyone ran it on NS?
Date: 18 May 1996 19:13:07 GMT
Organization: SPC
Message-ID: <4nl7g3$sr9@wagner.spc.videotron.ca>
Hi all
Hmmm... I know nothing about perl (neither camels) and
I can't run this script that recursively slurps html pages..
This my first attempt at using perl... I installed it successfully
(that's what Installer.app told me 8^) but it chocks on an
include statement when running webcopy script:
Can't locate sys/socket.ph in @INC (did you run h2ph?)
In the FAQs they talk about h2xs, but I can't find it in the TipTop
binary distribution...
Should I fetch it somewhere? And what does this script do, anyway?
Is this the relevent group? How OpenStep runtime for NT will be
priced? Where can I buy a hardware compression board for my ND?
Can I use a NeXT Laser printer with a PC? CDPlayer doesn't work,
what should I do? And what about dimming NeXT Mono megapixel monitors?
Thanx for your answers... 8^)
RL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Subject: Re: Fax for NextStep 3.3
Message-ID: <DrM9Hw.BDC@musical.fdn.org>
Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa)
Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS (The Music Land)
References: <4njjvj$f4j@news.cais.com>
Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 19:44:19 GMT
Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes
> You need to purchase a third party product called "NXFax" from Black and
> White Software. Contact info@bandw.com for more information.
>
I'm not sure that is work with US Robotics 28.8 Faxmodem.
Sam
From: jstella@okeefe.com (Seraphim J. Stella)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT PGP
Date: 18 May 1996 18:42:04 GMT
Organization: digitalNation
Message-ID: <4nl5ls$cff@news2.dn.net>
I'm having a difficult time compiling PGP2.6.1 on my ColorStation... Any
tricks to getting the "make next" command to work properly?
From: droux@cs.sandia.gov (Nicolas Droux)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fax for NextStep 3.3
Date: 18 May 1996 23:34:20 GMT
Organization: Sandia National Laboratories
Message-ID: <4nlmps$see@dirt.cs.sandia.gov>
References: <4ngs7h$c0b@student.computer.org> <4njjvj$f4j@news.cais.com>
Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> wrote:
>You need to purchase a third party product called "NXFax" from Black and
>White Software. Contact info@bandw.com for more information.
The original poster is using a USR 28.8. Last time I checked with B&W
(Jan/96), the USR 28.8 were not on their list of supported modems. This is
apparently still the case according to the info I could just find from the
StepWise site.
---
Nicolas Droux - n.droux@ieee.org - http://www.cs.unm.edu/~droux
PGP Fingerprint: 26F6234C2DCB871D 14C75FC1D4571916 - Public key at
http://swissnet.ai.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE7DEC601
From: dossr@ecs.ecs.csus.edu ()
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Reading dedicated wordprocessor disks under NS?
Date: 19 May 1996 05:12:39 GMT
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Message-ID: <4nmak7$s2n@csusac.ecs.csus.edu>
I have a Brother WP-80 wordprocessor 720k proprietary format data disk and
I would like to be able to read the disk (ideally) under NS/Intel. I
realize that the disk is in a file format that is different from MS-DOS or
any other format that NS recognizes, but I was hoping that NS would take
it anyways when I told Workspace to "Check for Disks..." It didn't work.
I also tried to do:'cat /dev/rfd0b > file_name' as root to copy the disk's
contents to a file, but after the disk light came on for a second I got
"cat: read error: Invalid argument" which then renders the floppy drive
unusable until I reboot. Does anyone know how I can get at this data? Are
there any programs or hacks out there for NS? I would even settle for a
program on another platform. I checked Brother's WWW page, but they don't
offer any support or have any info. on their wordprocessors. I can't seem
to find any programs that would do what I'm asking for, although I have
seen references alluding that such programs do exist. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. Thank You.
--
Robert C. Doss, Jr.
California State University, Sacramento
e-mail: dossr@csus.edu (MIME & NeXTMail o.k.)
WWW: http://www.gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~dossr Facsimile: (707) 253-3063
From: rsilver@panix.com (Russell Silverman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: laserjet 5L dirver ?
Date: 19 May 1996 03:25:53 -0400
Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
Message-ID: <4nmie1$qv2@panix3.panix.com>
I having been trying to get Jet Pilot to work with no
avail. I am using NS/fip 3.2 ( no, I didn't go for the
near free $1300- upgrade, are they kidding ?? Imagine
that ), on a simple old gateway.
Any ideas, what is anyone's opinion on Dots vs. JetPilot,
and any suggestions on what might be going wrong ? I tried
a newer parallel driver, did nothing.
--thanks in advance, RS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Subject: Bug in Mathematica sound?
Message-ID: <DrnHI9.1q1@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN
Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 11:34:56 GMT
Hello,
I have a problem in Play[] function in Mathematica 2.2.2 for
NEXTSTEP Intel. Could anyone test this function?
Tested function: SoundFunc[t_] := Sin[2 Pi 100 t];
Play[ SoundFunc[t], {t,0,1}]
OS: NEXTSTEP 3.2 (Japanese) Intel
Unexpected Result:
The sound produced by this function is distorted. The
waveform inspected by an oscilloscope connected to the output
of the sound board is not the one of the sine function (with
the range of t extended, of course). The same waveform is seen
also by Resound.app (I copied the sound object from
Mathematica notebook and pasted it into Resound.app). It looks
like
* *
|* *|
| * * |
| * |
| |
* | |
* * | |
* * | |
* *
MSB(Most Significant Bit) and LSB(Least Significant Bit) seem
to be incorrectly processed in the sampling.
The functions
SoundFunc[t_] := Sin[2 Pi 100 t] - Abs[Sin[2 Pi 100 t]] / Sin[2 Pi 100 t];
and
SoundFunc[t_] := Module[{y}, y = Sin[628.319 t];
Return[ y + Which[y > 0, -1, y < 0, 1, True, 0] ]];
partly solve this problem(Believe it or not, "y = Sin[2 Pi 100 t]"
does not work in the second function!). The wave form is
almost the sine curve but it has the peak of the Dirac delta
function on some points where it should take the value -1.
No other problems have been found in the sound system on my
machine.
I have reported this problem to WRI technical support but
they say that they do not have an oscilloscope or the Resound.app
application to test this with. How can I convince them that
this is really a problem?
Regards,
---
Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji
hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB)
From: shihong@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp (LAO Shihong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,fj.sys.next
Subject: Chinese (big5) truetype fonts converted to PS fonts for NEXTSTEP
Date: 19 May 1996 13:07:13 GMT
Organization: (empty)
Distribution: fj
Message-ID: <4nn6e1$9ta@synboon.picky.or.jp>
Keywords: chinese font nextstep
I have converted some of the truetype fonts found in
ftp.cnd.org to postscript fonts for using with
NEXTSTEP. Those fonts are in big5 encoding.
For more info about those truetype fonts see
ftp://ftp.cnd.org/pub/software/fonts/big5/ms-win/ntu_font.txt
If you are interested in beta testing those fonts please
send email to shihong@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp with subject
"FONT".
----
LAO Shihong (firstname is surname)
From: Norbert Heger <bertl@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail.app -- editing contents for storage
Date: 19 May 1996 13:36:31 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <4nn84v$jc@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960516102523.3551G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Originator: bertl@black13
You may use the following Mail.app 3.3 dwrites
dwrite Mail DoubleClickRestores YES
dwrite Mail RestrictedRestore NO
to enable the restoring of any messages just by double clicking the
corresponding summary line. Then you can edit the message and resend it to
yourself. But be shure to remove multiple recipients from the To: field
before resending!
Hope this helps - Norbert
_________________________________________________________________
Norbert Heger <bertl@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at>
NEXTSTEP / OpenStep Software Development
NeXTmail preferred, MIME is welcome
Please finger for PGP public key
PGP fingerprint = E0 10 3C BB 67 4C 7E 82 76 99 E9 6D B1 8C 32 C2
From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SCSI disk tool - reassignblock - help please
Date: 19 May 1996 18:05:52 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <4nnnu0$5vo@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
There used to be a scsi disk software utility that could be used to reassign a
bad scsi disk block. I know it existed on the black nexts, and I was
wondering whether anyone had a version, or something similar reassignblock,
that would work on an intel.
SCSItools is ineffective for my problem.
fsck runs but yields the following every time (yes, even when repeated):
# fsck /dev/rsd2a
** /dev/rsd2a
** Last Mounted on /Disk2
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
CANNOT READ: BLK 1037168
CONTINUE? y
THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 1037168, 1037169, 1037170, 1037171,
1037172, 1037173, 1037174, 1037175,
** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
7172 files, 398646 used, 621591 free (1735 frags, 77482 blocks, 0.2%
fragmentation)
File system not may not be clean! Run fsck again to clean.
#
Fortunately, this isn't my boot disk, or I'd be in real trouble. For the time
being, I've just commented out the fstab entry for this disk so that I can
boot into NeXTStep. Without commenting this line out, the OS drops me into
single user mode.
Any help, comments, and suggestions will be appreciated,... of course, "your
drive is beyond repair" won't be an especially welcome comment, even if true!
Thanks.
Randy
--
Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o
__o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\,
_`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> |
(*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\,
FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SCSI disk tool - reassignblock - help please
Date: 19 May 1996 18:58:09 GMT
Organization: HTI
Message-ID: <4nnr01$sbc@news.cais.com>
References: <4nnnu0$5vo@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
NAME
reasb - reassign SCSI logical block
SYNOPSIS
/usr/etc/reasb raw_device SCSI_block_number [ -r ]
DESCRIPTION
This command causes a logical block on a SCSI disk drive
to be reassigned to a new location on the disk. The actual
relocation and reassignment is performed by the disk drive
(as opposed to the operating system). The algorithms used
to allocate spare sectors vary between drive manufactur-
ers. SCSI_block_number is generally obtained from console
error information, printed by the SCSI disk driver upon
detection of media errors reported by the drive during
normal operation.
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT PGP
Date: 19 May 1996 19:31:05 GMT
Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany
Message-ID: <4nnstp$105@nexusgate.tng.oche.de>
References: <4nl5ls$cff@news2.dn.net>
jstella@okeefe.com (Seraphim J. Stella) wrote:
>I'm having a difficult time compiling PGP2.6.1 on my ColorStation... Any
>tricks to getting the "make next" command to work properly?
I had absolutely no problems compiling pgp.2.6.2ui and pgp.2.6.3is (in both
cases the international version) under NS3.2 on black hardware. The older
2.6.2 works better for me, because it has no problems with very long lines
(2.6.3 assumes a file with lines of more than 256 characters to be a binary).
Michael
--
Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen,
Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 (neue Rufnummer!)
Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome)
PGP : Public Key on demand
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ading dedicated wordprocessor disks under NS?
Date: 20 May 1996 03:31:28 GMT
Organization: HTI
Message-ID: <4nop2g$i9i@news.cais.com>
References: <4nmak7$s2n@csusac.ecs.csus.edu>
Don't think you'll ever be able to do it. Your best bet is to read it
using DOS/Windows, save your files to a DOS diskette and then use NEXTSTEP
to read the DOS diskette.
Robert La Ferla
Registered OPENSTEP Consultant
Boston, MA
+ 1 (617) 252-0088
From: kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de (Konstantin Wiesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: X11 Server for NeXT - which is best?
Date: 20 May 1996 09:07:45 GMT
Organization: University of Bonn, Germany
Message-ID: <4npcp1$peo@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
I am interested in a X11 server and know of 2 availableproducts: Cub-X and
Co-Xist. I would like to know which is the better one also regarding the
developer system.
Answers by Email preferred
regards
---
Konstantin Wiesel
Email:kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de
From: robert@amo.mit.edu (Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Compare CheckSum to Quicken ?
Date: 20 May 1996 12:36:31 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4npp0f$7ja@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <3199A9C7.43C2@pcd.net> <4nerp8$fus@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
In <4nerp8$fus@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford wrote:
> "CheckSum(TM) by Andreas Glocker is a NEXTSTEP program for the single user
or
> small business owner who has basic accounting needs. CheckSum tracks
> expenses, income, property and cash, and provides Income Statements and
> Balance Sheets. CheckSum balances your checkbook and prints checks."
I have version 1.0 of CheckSum, and find it so deficient to Quicken that we
keep our old
Mac Classic around just to balance our checkbook. Checksum (1.0) has poor
reporting
and account management facilities, also the UI is cumbersome. The fact that
it doesn't
recollect familiar transactions (or even allow cut and paste of them) makes
it near
impossible to maintain consistent entries for sorting and statistics.
Near as I could tell, all that Stone has done is add import/export capability
to their own
database. The upgrade announcement didn't say anything about catching up to
Quicken's superior reporting and statistics capabilities.
Can anybody comment on improvements since Stone has taken over?
Robert
--
Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
---> NeXTmail always welcome <---
From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Bug in Mathematica sound?
Date: 20 May 1996 14:06:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Message-ID: <4npu9u$gg1@styx.uwa.edu.au>
References: <DrnHI9.1q1@papageno.rim.or.jp>
In article <DrnHI9.1q1@papageno.rim.or.jp> hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp
(Hiroshi TOMARU) writes:
>I have a problem in Play[] function in Mathematica 2.2.2 for
>NEXTSTEP Intel. Could anyone test this function?
>
>Tested function: SoundFunc[t_] := Sin[2 Pi 100 t];
> Play[ SoundFunc[t], {t,0,1}]
>
>OS: NEXTSTEP 3.2 (Japanese) Intel
>
>Unexpected Result:
> The sound produced by this function is distorted. The
>waveform inspected by an oscilloscope connected to the output
>of the sound board is not the one of the sine function (with
>the range of t extended, of course). The same waveform is seen
>also by Resound.app (I copied the sound object from
>Mathematica notebook and pasted it into Resound.app).
[Munch]
>
>I have reported this problem to WRI technical support but
>they say that they do not have an oscilloscope or the Resound.app
>application to test this with. How can I convince them that
>this is really a problem?
>
Ask them if they call SNDSwapSoundToHost() / SwapHostToSound() before
importing and exporting sound in NeXTStep Intel Mathematica. I'll lay my
money (such that it is) that they don't explicitly call the sound swapping
functions (look for them in Librarian.app) before saving or playing the
data to the Sound functions. The bytes for each sample will be reversed.
In order to save and play sound files, the data must be big-endian which
is guaranteed by calling the swap functions.
While I haven't got a CRO here and I can't seem to get
Sound.app/SoundEditor.app/Spectro3.app to paste from a copied sound
object, I do get a distorted sound which to my ears most certainly is not
a pure tone sinusoid.
This may not be the best answer, probably the last thing WRI will do is
actually look at the code first, rather than attempting first to fob off
their customers via customer support...
--
Leigh Smith Computer Science, University of Western Australia
+61-9-380-1945 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME)
"In a world where success means gaining time, thinking has a single but
irredeemable fault: it's a waste of time" - J-F. Lyotard
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Reading dedicated wordprocessor disks under NS?
Date: 20 May 1996 01:31:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4npak5$17c@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <4nmak7$s2n@csusac.ecs.csus.edu>
dossr@ecs.ecs.csus.edu () wrote:
>I have a Brother WP-80 wordprocessor 720k proprietary format data disk and
>I would like to be able to read the disk (ideally) under NS/Intel. I
>realize that the disk is in a file format that is different from MS-DOS or
>any other format that NS recognizes, but I was hoping that NS would take
>it anyways when I told Workspace to "Check for Disks..." It didn't work.
>
>I also tried to do:'cat /dev/rfd0b > file_name' as root to copy the disk's
>contents to a file, but after the disk light came on for a second I got
>"cat: read error: Invalid argument" which then renders the floppy drive
>unusable until I reboot. Does anyone know how I can get at this data? Are
>there any programs or hacks out there for NS? I would even settle for a
>program on another platform. I checked Brother's WWW page, but they don't
>offer any support or have any info. on their wordprocessors. I can't seem
>to find any programs that would do what I'm asking for, although I have
>seen references alluding that such programs do exist. Any help would be
>greatly appreciated. Thank You.
What may work is that a few years ago, Brother made word processors with
DOS disk (720K) read/write ability as an option. Try to find one of these
machines at your local office supply store, for an obscure hint as to what
they look like, they appear to look like one of the old Osbourne portable
computers (with built-in CRT, fold-up keyboard) I don't know about the
desktop typewriter/screen variations or the LCD-type screen portables.
Read in your old disk, save it onto a DOS floppy (probably as ASCII), import
the ASCII text into your NeXT system.
Good luck.
--
Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS
Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
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From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Omniweb 2.0 and asian fonts
Date: 20 May 1996 01:49:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4npblt$2lv@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <4n8sgv$2f7@natasha.rmii.com> <4ndk3u$10j@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov>
Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com (Mark Tarbell) wrote:
>In <4n8sgv$2f7@natasha.rmii.com> bsmith@rmi.net wrote, in part:
>> I want to be able to view japanese and chinese charater web pages. What do
>> I need to get to set this up? Where can I get fonts and components to do
>> this?
>
>You can obtain the Chinese font "KaiSu" from:
>ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/pub/next/binaries/chinese/fonts/KaiSu.pkg_0
.7.tar
>ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/pub/next/binaries/chinese/fonts/KaiSu.pkg_0
.7.tar.readme
>
>This is a .pkg installation. The font works well. Just set the font in
>OmniWeb to Kaisu.
>
>For Japanese, there is no corresponding font or package; you have to buy the
>Japanese version of NEXTSTEP. In theory, there ought to be a way to convert
>input JIS code into a font, using the edict Japanese dictionary and Kaisu
>font tables for lookup. But, that would take some time! :)
There is a way, using Tickleservices and some Japanese fonts available
from a Berkeley ftp server of all places. Unfortunately I lost the address.
It does contain a directory of Japanese language utilities, and I have this
setup on my machine right now. It works fine for simple text and newsgroups,
you can only read, not write, and viewing webpages usually makes it puke.
But it's just great for reading *.jp newsgroups and E-mail.
--
Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS
Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
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From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Converting DOS partition
Date: 20 May 1996 16:08:18 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <4nq5di$f61@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
I have a 2 GB disk that currently has 2 1GB partitions, one for DOS and one
for NeXT. I want to cut the DOS partition down to .5 GB, and devote another
.5 GB to NeXT. Do I just boot into DOS, run fdisk, and remove the primary
DOS partition, then create a newe DOS and new non-DOS partition? Then, will I
be able to simply initialize the NeXT partition when I next boot up NeXT?
Anything else I should be aware of?
Thanks
--
Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o
__o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\,
_`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> |
(*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\,
FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu
From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SCSI disk tool - reassignblock - help please
Date: 20 May 1996 15:07:29 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <4nq1rh$ejg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <4nnnu0$5vo@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>?rs.p <4nnr01$sbc@news.cais.com>
In-Reply-To: <4nnr01$sbc@news.cais.com>
On 05/19/96, Robert La Ferla wrote:
>
>NAME
> reasb - reassign SCSI logical block
>
>SYNOPSIS
> /usr/etc/reasb raw_device SCSI_block_number [ -r ]
>
Thanks to Robert for identifying the utility Iwas searching for. I continue
to have a problem with the disk, however, and want to ask one more time
whether any of you have had a similar experience and successfully solved the
problem. A transcript of a session follows, with my comments set off by @
@Running fsck yields:
# fsck /dev/rsd2a
** /dev/rsd2a
** Last Mounted on /Disk2
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
CANNOT READ: BLK 1037168
CONTINUE? y
THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 1037168, 1037169, 1037170, 1037171,
1037172, 1037173, 1037174, 1037175,
** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
7172 files, 398646 used, 621591 free (1735 frags, 77482 blocks, 0.2%
fragmentation)
File system not may not be clean! Run fsck again to clean.
#
@so I run reasb on several blocks:
# reasb /dev/rsd2a 1037168
...Reassigning block 1037168(d)
...Block 1037168(d) reassigned
# reasb /dev/rsd2a 1037169
...Reassigning block 1037169(d)
...Block 1037169(d) reassigned
# reasb /dev/rsd2a 1037170
...Reassigning block 1037170(d)
...Block 1037170(d) reassigned
@and try fsck again, with IDENTICAL RESULTS:
# fsck /dev/rsd2a
** /dev/rsd2a
** Last Mounted on /Disk2
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
CANNOT READ: BLK 1037168
CONTINUE? y
THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 1037168, 1037169, 1037170, 1037171,
1037172, 1037173, 1037174, 1037175,
** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
7172 files, 398646 used, 621591 free (1735 frags, 77482 blocks, 0.2%
fragmentation)
File system not may not be clean! Run fsck again to clean.
#
@any ideas ?
Thanks,
Randy
--
Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o
__o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\,
_`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> |
(*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\,
FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <wolf@dino.ph.utexas.edu>
Message-ID: <199605201556.IAA02601@isp.net>
From: David Wolf <wolf@dino.ph.utexas.edu>
Subject: Presto - Need help
Date: Mon, 20 May 96 10:50:58 CDT
Cc: wolf@lanl.gov
Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85]
Presto key trouble!
i am having trouble here since i upgraded my 2.1 to 3.2. since then,
presto v09.6b is not running in anything but demo mode in spite of using
the license key that it ran with under 2.1. presto sets the license key
based on the hostid - which has not changed. although support@pri.com
is still active, no response has been heard from them in over 2 weeks. (i
am one of those unfortunate who purchased the beta just before the product
development stopped). so i have a couple of questions:
1. how do i get a correct license key? (is there something about the 3.1
release that made the old key stop working?)
2. are there any lists or groups dedicated to sound and music software on the
next where i could find some supportive net friends?
thanks all, david
wolf@dino.ph.utexas.edu
http://dino.ph.utexas.edu/~wolf
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu (Hiro Yoshida)
Subject: Re: X11 Server for NeXT - which is best?
Message-ID: <DrpqH5.F0G@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Cc: kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services
References: <4npcp1$peo@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 16:43:52 GMT
In <4npcp1$peo@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Konstantin Wiesel wrote:
> I am interested in a X11 server and know of 2 availableproducts: Cub-X and
> Co-Xist. I would like to know which is the better one also regarding the
> developer system.
I'd like to ask the same question to the newsgroup. In my case, I am solely
interested in the display speed, not the developer environment. Simply, the
question is: "Which X server is faster for displaying a bitmap image?" BTW,
I am using (old) NS3.0 on a black hardware (NeXTstation turbo color).
When you post a reply, please e-mail me too, so that I don't miss your
message.
____________________________________________________________
Hiro Yoshida
Kurt Rossmann Laboratories
Department of Radiology, The University of Chicago, MC2026
5841 South Maryland Avenue, Chicago Illinois 60637
Phone: 312-702-1350, FAX 312-702-0371
yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fax for NextStep 3.3
Date: 20 May 1996 06:05:30 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4np23a$i92@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <4ngs7h$c0b@student.computer.org> <4nhrir$b4c@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
Paul Lynch (paul@plsys.co.uk) wrote:
: Class 2 is different from Class 2.0 (etc). Different releases of the spec
: have moved on from the version that NeXT provided free drivers for, and all
: of those old modems are now thoroughly obsolete. The only way to make faxing
: work with modern modems is to buy NXFax, and use a compatable modem.
This seems a bit strong. This is a way, sure, but "the only way"?
Getting curreng distribution of mgetty from the net and following
instructions seems to be another one. NeXT support is included, but
get at least 0.98 and better 0.99.
Michal
From: cerdini@asi.fr (Michel CERDINI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WinCenter with Next turbo color
Date: 20 May 1996 19:06:38 GMT
Organization: Acces et Solutions Internet - Tel: 7893.0000 - Fax: 7893.0099
Message-ID: <4nqfru$58p@s2.asi.fr>
Is someone use wincenter with a next turbo color ?
I have some problems with the keyboard...
It doesn't work well, and I can type any digits with it !
Any ideas ?
--
Michel CERDINI - Tel : 7893.0000 - Fax : 7893.0099 - Michel.Cerdini@asi.fr
Acces et Solutions Internet | 43, bd du 11 novembre 1918
Espace Double Mixte | 69622 Villeurbanne Cedex
From: JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problems with MAC-CD-ROM in SoftPC
Date: 20 May 1996 20:28:05 GMT
Organization: PIRONET GmbH
Distribution: default
Message-ID: <4nqkkl$4qi@sail.leverkusen.netsurf.de>
Summary: How can I use a MAC-CD-ROM with SoftPC
Keywords: SoftPC Mac-CD-ROM
Hello I have a problem. I have a CD-ROM (Phonebook of Germany) with a MAC-Filesystem. I can see the contents in the NEXTSTEP-Browser, but I cannot use the CD-ROM with SoftPC. (There is a Windows-Application on the CD-ROM to use the Phonebook database )
When I type the command use_cd in the DOS-Window of SoftPC to mount the CD-ROM I get the following message:
So I type:
C:\>use_cd
and get the message:
General failure reading device CDROM$$$
Abort, Retry, Ignore, Fail?
When I say FAIL, I get the following message:
MSCDEX Version 2.21
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp. 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990. All rights reserved.
Drive F: = Driver CDROM$$$ unit 0
Then I tried to make a dir and get the following:
C:\>dir f:
CDR101: Not ready reading drive F
Abort, Retry, Fail? f
Volume in drive F has no label
CDR101: Not ready reading drive F
Abort, Retry, Fail? f
Fail on INT 24
Can anybody help me?
Thank You
From: JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fax for NextStep 3.3
Date: 20 May 1996 20:35:23 GMT
Organization: PIRONET GmbH
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In Re: Fax for NextStep 3.3 comp.sys.next.software <ArticleDisplayer: 0xfacd8> writes,
> Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> wrote:
>>You need to purchase a third party product called "NXFax" from Black and
>>White Software. Contact info@bandw.com for more information.
>
> The original poster is using a USR 28.8. Last time I checked with B&W
> (Jan/96), the USR 28.8 were not on their list of supported modems.
The USRSportster only supports Class1 Faxes, so it is not possible to use NXFax. I tried, I have a USR Sportster 28.8. But Chris Zach wrote, he bought a USR Modem that supports Class 2. So he perhaps can use JollysClass2Fax from the peanuts archiv.
From: shivers@ai.mit.edu (Olin Shivers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Apps for Openstep for NT?
Date: 21 May 1996 01:02:39 -0400
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In-reply-to: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu's message of 16 May 1996 19:15:24 GMT
From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker)
One point. Applications for OPENSTEP/Solaris could hit it big. Right now,
WordPerfect or a simple drawing program is expensive for Solaris. If
Lighthouse ports their products to OS like they indicate that they are, then
their $99 Academic CD would be a HUGE bargain for productivity apps on Suns.
It would probably still be a bargain if the OS runtime is included in the
cost.
This is personally motivated. I use a Sun at work every day and mostly free
X-Window based software is good enough. However, if I could just have
Diagram! and Quantrix on my Sun, I'd finally have an option when my
beloved NeXTStation finally dies. NT is useless to me until all of the
GNU/Xwindow/LaTeX world is ported to it and it looks and feels like UNIX.
Does this mean that OPENSTEP/Solaris will be something that will
let X/Solaris programs and OPENSTEP/Display-Postscript apps to co-exist?
That would rule -- I had to flush my Nextstep installation and move
to FreeBSD because Nextstep wasn't Posix and I was isolated from the
surrounding X environment in which I work.
-Olin
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Problems with MAC-CD-ROM in SoftPC
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 10:03:07 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd
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>Hello I have a problem. I have a CD-ROM (Phonebook of Germany)
>with a MAC-Filesystem. I can see the contents in the
>NEXTSTEP-Browser, but I cannot use the CD-ROM with SoftPC.
Thats because PC's cannot read Mac filesystems! (unless you use something
like MacDisk or MacTransfer). SoftPC is behaving just like the real thing.
You might be able to get it to work by mounting the disk as an fsa drive
net use g: /CDRomMountPoint
this will let you read the files - its up to your software if it will wrk
with a "network" drive.
$an
(no longer at Insignia)
From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Presto upgrades
Date: 21 May 1996 11:06:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Message-ID: <4ns83b$mjo@styx.uwa.edu.au>
References: <199605201556.IAA02601@isp.net>
In article <199605201556.IAA02601@isp.net> writes:
>Presto key trouble!
>
>i am having trouble here since i upgraded my 2.1 to 3.2. since then,
>presto v09.6b is not running in anything but demo mode in spite of using
>the license key that it ran with under 2.1.>thanks all, david
>
>wolf@dino.ph.utexas.edu
>http://dino.ph.utexas.edu/~wolf
Actually Presto changed it's name to Sequence and then collapsed.....
But...it has recently become public domain and V0.9.8.3 in a FAT binary
has been posted to ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/NeXT, by David Jaffe.
Viva music on NeXTStep!
(Hoping some entrepreneurial soul/company will take heed and release a 56K
based sound card with a functional Sound device driver....iLink?)
--
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+61-9-380-1945 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME)
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From: kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de (Konstantin Wiesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fax for NextStep 3.3
Date: 21 May 1996 14:07:23 GMT
Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site
Message-ID: <4nsimr$pni@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de>
References: <4nlmps$see@dirt.cs.sandia.gov>
> The original poster is using a USR 28.8. Last time I checked with B&W
> (Jan/96), the USR 28.8 were not on their list of supported modems. This
is
> apparently still the case according to the info I could just find from
the
> StepWise site.
As far as i know NxFax does only support Class 2 modems which must not be
confused with Class 2.0 which the USR Modems are. Class 2 is a draft and
therefore not identical in every so called Class 2 Fax modem.
---
Konstantin Wiesel
Email:kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de
From: 3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec AHA-2920 PCI - SCSI Controller
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: 21 May 1996 14:43:45 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
Distribution: world
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dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote:
: Can anyone tell me if the Adaptec AHA-2920 PCI will work under NeXTSTep 3.3? If so what driver pkg do I use?
: Thank's in advance,
: David A. Johnson
: Research Engineer,
: Feinberg Cardiovascular Research Institute
: Northwestern University
As far as I know it is not supported. I just had a look at the NeXT Answers
Hardware compatibilty guide and it is not listed there. The 2940 driver
doesn't support the 2920. Probably you want to have a look at the Symbios/
NCR 538xx series. They are cheaper than the 2940 and have the same performance
but lack the nice configuration features of the 2940.
Eberhard
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fax for NextStep 3.3
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 17:57:30 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
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On 20 May 1996, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> Paul Lynch (paul@plsys.co.uk) wrote:
> : Class 2 is different from Class 2.0 (etc). Different releases of the spec
> : have moved on from the version that NeXT provided free drivers for, and all
> : of those old modems are now thoroughly obsolete. The only way to make faxing
> : work with modern modems is to buy NXFax, and use a compatable modem.
>
> This seems a bit strong. This is a way, sure, but "the only way"?
> Getting curreng distribution of mgetty from the net and following
> instructions seems to be another one. NeXT support is included, but
> get at least 0.98 and better 0.99.
>
There is also the PD fax utility 'HylaFAX' for Unix'es. You should check-out
http://www.vix.com/hylafax for more information. I know that it's
portable to NEXTSTEP, though I never tried it...
HylaFAX seems to be very reliable and supports Class 1, Class2 and Class2.0
modems, therefore it should always work. It even is able to share a
serial line using the UUCP locking mechanism. (This enables you to run
PPP concurrently)
Best regards,
Boerny.
--
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From: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Reading dedicated wordprocessor disks under NS?
Message-ID: <DrqK8t.IzA@nidat.sub.org>
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Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 03:26:53 GMT
In <4nmak7$s2n@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> dossr@ecs.ecs.csus.edu wrote:
> I have a Brother WP-80 wordprocessor 720k proprietary format data disk and
> I would like to be able to read the disk (ideally) under NS/Intel. I
> realize that the disk is in a file format that is different from MS-DOS or
> any other format that NS recognizes, but I was hoping that NS would take
> it anyways when I told Workspace to "Check for Disks..." It didn't work.
>
> I also tried to do:'cat /dev/rfd0b > file_name' as root to copy the disk's
> contents to a file, but after the disk light came on for a second I got
> "cat: read error: Invalid argument" which then renders the floppy drive
> unusable until I reboot. Does anyone know how I can get at this data? Are
> there any programs or hacks out there for NS? I would even settle for a
> program on another platform. I checked Brother's WWW page, but they don't
> offer any support or have any info. on their wordprocessors. I can't seem
> to find any programs that would do what I'm asking for, although I have
> seen references alluding that such programs do exist. Any help would be
> greatly appreciated. Thank You.
>
>
>
Lookup the man-page for 'dd' ;-)
--
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Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: thor@zems.fer.hr (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Multiple OS's?
Date: 21 May 1996 15:16:49 GMT
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Hi.
I've looked in NeXTAnswers and wanted to get some advice
on installing multiple OS's _after_ NS is installed, if
it's possible. I'm presently away from home, my manuals,
and my NeXTSTEP CD's, and don't want to render my system
unbootable just to play a bit with Linux or Windows...
I currently have a 1GB EIDE disk formatted 512 sector
size, 1 partition solely for NeXTStep. I'll be getting
a new disk soon about 1.2-2.2GB size and would like
to set up Linux, Dos/Windows, OS/2 (and maybe Solaris).
I don't know if I can format the new drive 1024
sector size 1 or 2 NeXTStep partitions, use builddisk
and/or ditto to move the entire system to the new disk,
and then reformat/partition the old drive for the other OSs.
Alternatively I could partition/format the new drive for
multiple OSs but then how could I boot them when the boot
sector on the primary disk contains only NeXTStep?
Any tips, advice etc appreciated.
Regards,
Thor
presently in exile in Croatia
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From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fax for NextStep 3.3
Date: Tue, 21 May 1996 19:36:47 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
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In article <4np23a$i92@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) writes:
> Paul Lynch (paul@plsys.co.uk) wrote:
> : Class 2 is different from Class 2.0 (etc). Different releases of the
spec
> : have moved on from the version that NeXT provided free drivers for,
and all
> : of those old modems are now thoroughly obsolete. The only way to make
faxing
> : work with modern modems is to buy NXFax, and use a compatable modem.
>
> This seems a bit strong. This is a way, sure, but "the only way"?
> Getting curreng distribution of mgetty from the net and following
> instructions seems to be another one. NeXT support is included, but
> get at least 0.98 and better 0.99.
Sorry if it seems a little strong; but this question is asked so
frequently, and invariably in the same way, that it seems to require a
strong answer.
You are quite correct that mgetty will work with NeXTSTEP, and there is
also a faxmodem driver on Peanuts aimed specifically at ZyXELs.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: nb562@bard.edu (Noel Bush)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SLIP configuration on NeXTstation
Date: 21 May 1996 21:06:52 GMT
Organization: Bard College, Annandale-on-Hudson, New York 12504
Message-ID: <4ntb9c$phh@core.bard.edu>
I am attempting to configure a NeXTstation to be able to use a SLIP
interface so that I can dial up a remote server. I have downloaded the
DialupIP package, and configured the setup files correctly, so that
typing "connect" will dial the server and apparently establish a SLIP
connection. But this does not seem to be enough, because none of the
apps (OmniWeb, NewsGrazer, Ping, etc.) or shell commands (finger, telnet,
etc.) will work.
Can someone tell me what I am missing in my configuration, or point me to
some online documentation about setting this up? I have been unable to
locate any help via various search engines.
Thanks in advance,
Noel Bush
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From: pascal@burgond.remcomp.fr (Pascal Bourguignon)
Subject: Re: Unix mail vs. NeXTMail
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Sender: pascal@burgond.remcomp.fr (Pascal Bourguignon)
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Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 15:13:42 GMT
In article <4n0sev$a5p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> beaucham@cmp-rs.music.uiuc.edu
(james beauchamp) writes:
> into NeXTMail. Is there some way I can get it back for use with Unix mail?
> (NeXTMail doesn't help when you're logged in remotely.)
mail -f ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox
> Also, is there a convenient way to save a particular NeXTMail note to a
> particular file? I've been doing it by paste, and it's clumsy compared to
> the 's' command in Unix mail.
Click on the Mailboxes button,
Type a new Name,
Click on New,
Back in the Active.mbox, select the mail you want to move,
In the Mailboxes window, select the destination mailbox (the new one),
Click on Transfer.
These mailboxes are stored in the ~/Mailboxes directory. The messages are
stored in mbox files in the *.mbox subdirectories of ~/Mailboxes.
__Pascal Bourguignon__
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is Pine (Mail app) compiled for NeXTStep?
Date: 22 May 1996 01:24:18 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4ntqc2$b5t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
I checked out binaries/mail in next-ftp@PEAK.ORG and only found a mailbox
conversion app with pine in it.
I have NS3.2.
Thanks to any Samaritan.
Lones
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From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail trouble - again
Date: 22 May 1996 02:11:08 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
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On 24 Apr 1996 13:17:09 GMT, Randy Jackson <randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> Having installed EnhanceMail recently [...]
Is EnhanceMail the Mail.app component that unnecessarily MIME encodes mail
that doesn't need to be MIME encoded?
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From: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: X11 Server for NeXT - which is best?
Date: 22 May 1996 11:22:34 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology
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References: <DrpqH5.F0G@midway.uchicago.edu>
Hiro Yoshida writes
> In <4npcp1$peo@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Konstantin Wiesel wrote:
> > I am interested in a X11 server and know of 2 availableproducts: Cub-X
and
> > Co-Xist. I would like to know which is the better one also regarding
the
> > developer system.
>
> I'd like to ask the same question to the newsgroup. In my case, I am
solely
> interested in the display speed, not the developer environment.
Simply, the
> question is: "Which X server is faster for displaying a bitmap image?"
BTW,
> I am using (old) NS3.0 on a black hardware (NeXTstation turbo color).
>
> When you post a reply, please e-mail me too, so that I don't miss your
> message.
> ____________________________________________________________
I'm not a developer, nor am I an X-expert, but I used Cub-X and it was
wonderful IMHO. Even running mpeg movies went perfect and fast enough. The
integration with the NS environment was seamless. Btw I have an intel
pentium 100mhz with 32MB.
Abraham.
_____________________________________________________________________
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From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Reading dedicated wordprocessor disks under NS?
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 13:54:48 -0700
Organization: First Evangelical Free Church
Message-ID: <joel-2205961354480001@asteroid18.threedi.com>
References: <4nmak7$s2n@csusac.ecs.csus.edu>
>I have a Brother WP-80 wordprocessor 720k proprietary format data disk and
>I would like to be able to read the disk (ideally) under NS/Intel. I
>realize that the disk is in a file format that is different from MS-DOS or
>any other format that NS recognizes, but I was hoping that NS would take
>it anyways when I told Workspace to "Check for Disks..." It didn't work.
You, my friend, are hosed.
I went through this with a guy who had typed a very large master's thesis
into one of those suckers. Basically, we called the company and they said
something to the effect of "Nope, no computers can read our disks. Isn't
that cool? HAHAHAHAHAHA"
They seemed really indifferent that anybody might want to get their data
off of their completely useless proprietary format floppy disks.
Basically these companies see it as a way to insure that their piece of
crap machines still have a use so you'll buy ribbons or whatever. You are
going to have to retype or scan your data to get it again.
When I called on this a few years back, they didn't have a word processor
that used dos disks, so you couldn't do the conversion. Maybe that's
changed, but that's your only hope at this point.
Joel
| Joel Lingenfelter
-=+=-
| Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be
| transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: Talisha@gnn.com (Talisha Johnston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: For sale: Windows95 software
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 18:14:34
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don't need it. I'm willing to sell it cheap - and it's still in
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Please email me at parishes@centum.utulsa.edu (different address
than the one who posted this message)
From: sams@shellx.best.com (Samuel G. Streeper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Reading dedicated wordprocessor disks under NS?
Date: 22 May 1996 16:45:44 -0700
Organization: Best Internet Communications
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References: <4nmak7$s2n@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> <joel-2205961354480001@asteroid18.threedi.com>
>>I have a Brother WP-80 wordprocessor 720k proprietary format data disk and
>>I would like to be able to read the disk (ideally) under NS/Intel. I
>You, my friend, are hosed.
Before I gave up entirely I would try this:
/bin/dd if=/dev/rfd0a of=/tmp/diskimage
Then see if you get a diskimage that makes any sense at all
and try to write a perl script to piece it together and filter
out the garbage.
I have no idea if this would work but it's probably worth a try.
cheers,
-sam
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (BongOk Kim (kornet))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: "Multimedia Birds of Europe" CD-ROM for NS
Date: 23 May 1996 04:45:19 GMT
Organization: KORNET (Korea Telecom)
Message-ID: <4o0qgv$k5v@usenet.kornet.nm.kr>
"Multimedia Birds of Europe" CD-ROM for NS
I am looking for "Multimedia Birds of Europe" CD-ROM for NEXTSTEP.
Does anyone know This CD-ROM?
Any and all comments welcome.
YoungHoon Kil
From South Korea
ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr
http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai
From: bennett@filbert.cso.niu.edu (Scott Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SCSI disk tool - reassignblock - help please
Date: 23 May 1996 00:01:53 -0500
Organization: Northern Illinois University
Message-ID: <4o0rg1$b6d@filbert.cso.niu.edu>
References: <4nnnu0$5vo@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <4nnr01$sbc@news.cais.com>@?rs.UUCP> <4nnr01$sbc@news.cais.com> <4nq1rh$ejg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
In article <4nq1rh$ejg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
Randy Jackson <randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>On 05/19/96, Robert La Ferla wrote:
>>
>>NAME
>> reasb - reassign SCSI logical block
>>
>>SYNOPSIS
>> /usr/etc/reasb raw_device SCSI_block_number [ -r ]
>>
>
>Thanks to Robert for identifying the utility Iwas searching for. I continue
>to have a problem with the disk, however, and want to ask one more time
>whether any of you have had a similar experience and successfully solved the
>problem. A transcript of a session follows, with my comments set off by @
>
>@Running fsck yields:
>
># fsck /dev/rsd2a
>** /dev/rsd2a
>** Last Mounted on /Disk2
>** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
>
>CANNOT READ: BLK 1037168
>CONTINUE? y
>
>THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 1037168, 1037169, 1037170, 1037171,
>1037172, 1037173, 1037174, 1037175,
>** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
>** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
>** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
>** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups
>7172 files, 398646 used, 621591 free (1735 frags, 77482 blocks, 0.2%
>fragmentation)
>File system not may not be clean! Run fsck again to clean.
>#
>
[rest of session deleted --SJB]
>
>
>@any ideas ?
>
Being so quick to reassign blocks is not always wise. Unreadable
blocks can happen when there is nothing wrong with the hardware per se.
For example, if a write operation is in progress at the time of a power
failure, the write may not be completed, leaving an incorrectly coded
block. The solution in such a case is to rewrite the block before trying
to read it.
Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
Systems Programming
Computer Center
Northern Illinois University
DeKalb, Illinois 60115
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From: font@MCS.COM (Font)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SCSI disk tool - reassignblock - help please
Date: 23 May 1996 04:14:27 -0500
Organization: MCSNet Services
Message-ID: <4o1a9j$39k@Venus.mcs.com>
References: <4nnnu0$5vo@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <4nnr01$sbc@news.cais.com>@?rs.UUCP> <4nnr01$sbc@news.cais.com> <4nq1rh$ejg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <4o0rg1$b6d@filbert.cso.niu.edu>
bennett@filbert.cso.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) writes:
>[about /usr/etc/reasb use]
> Being so quick to reassign blocks is not always wise. Unreadable
>blocks can happen when there is nothing wrong with the hardware per se.
>For example, if a write operation is in progress at the time of a power
>failure, the write may not be completed, leaving an incorrectly coded
>block. The solution in such a case is to rewrite the block before trying
>to read it.
How? How does one write to a specific block, or find out what file is
using that block in order to salvage it before rewriting? Can one map
out truly bad blocks by having dummy files occupying their space?
--
font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is Pine (Mail app) compiled for NeXTStep?
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 09:52:46 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960522095102.1773F-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4ntqc2$b5t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
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To: Lones A Smith <lones@lones.mit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4ntqc2$b5t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
You can get it precompiled for black hardware from:
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed/pico-bin.next.Z
Checked it today:
-rwxrwxr-x 1 172 247777 Apr 11 17:51 pico-bin.next.Z*
Most current version is 3.93.
I'm using it now (under NSFIP)
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma
Formerly known as: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail trouble - again
Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 09:54:47 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960522095335.1773G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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To: "J.B. Nicholson-Owens" <jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
In-Reply-To: <slrn4q4tts.e08.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
I don't know that it is any component other than Mail.app 3.3 itself.
Seems to me that when I started using Mail.app 3.3 it put MIME headers
into each outgoing message.
Dunno for sure, but I don't think it has anything to do with EnhanceMail.
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma
Formerly known as: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
On 22 May 1996, J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote:
> On 24 Apr 1996 13:17:09 GMT, Randy Jackson <randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> > Having installed EnhanceMail recently [...]
>
> Is EnhanceMail the Mail.app component that unnecessarily MIME encodes mail
> that doesn't need to be MIME encoded?
> --
> Due to local news server and feed problems, I might not see all followups.
>
>
>
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Compare CheckSum to Quicken ?
Date: 23 May 1996 08:35:50 -0400
Organization: PHCS
Message-ID: <4o1m36$f0j@papoose.quick.com>
References: <3199A9C7.43C2@pcd.net> <4nerp8$fus@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <4npp0f$7ja@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
In article <4npp0f$7ja@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
Robert Lutwak <robert@amo.mit.edu> wrote:
>I have version 1.0 of CheckSum, and find it so deficient to Quicken that we
>keep our old
>Mac Classic around just to balance our checkbook. Checksum (1.0) has poor
>reporting
>and account management facilities, also the UI is cumbersome. The fact that
>it doesn't
>recollect familiar transactions (or even allow cut and paste of them) makes
>it near
>impossible to maintain consistent entries for sorting and statistics.
>
>Near as I could tell, all that Stone has done is add import/export capability
>to their own
>database. The upgrade announcement didn't say anything about catching up to
>Quicken's superior reporting and statistics capabilities.
>
>Can anybody comment on improvements since Stone has taken over?
I agree with you that Quicken does have a number of features which
make it superior to CheckSum, however your claim that CheckSum does
not have a facility to remember frequent transactions is incorrect.
System->Transaction->{Memorize, Recall} support saving and re-using
transactions.
I also agree that reporting and analysis is still deficient. I
corresponded with Stone Design shortly after their acquistion of
the code to talk about functional improvements. They said that
their inital goals are to clean up the class hierarchy, and to
convert the system to Openstep Foundation kit. They must complete
this before considering new functionality.
I hope that they provide either an API or hooks to allow users to
add external bundles in a clean way. Under NS/OpenStep it's far
more productive to simply let the application talk to other apps
and let them do what they are best at. Loose integration to
spreadsheets for graphing and analysis, to flat files or databases
for complex reporting or summarization, etc.
I've been playing around with these problems by writing some command
line programs which unarchive checksum account files and create
Quantrix spreadsheets, and ascii format data files. This makes it
easy (though not elegant) for me to produce graphs, and show periodic
or annual changes, in quantrix, and to write reports off the data
in perl.
I planned on sharing my code with other CheckSum users once the
next release of CheckSum (using Foundation kit) was out. If there
is enough interest now, I will talk with the folks at Stone and
see what their thoughts on the subject are. I don't want to
re-invent any wheels they have planned, and also don't want to
release anything that could cause problems either for them or the
user community.
Despite it's current shortcomings, I prefer to work under NS with
CheckSum than to use Quicken under softPC or Windows, and hope
Stone Design does well with the app.
p.s. Anyone interested in talking to me about what I've written,
drop me a line. If other people could benefit from what I've done,
I'd be happy to share what I'm doing (either with them or with
Stone -- whichever gives the most benefit to the CheckSum community)
--
___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com
/ / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K.
\_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343
) | - My other car has a mouse.
From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SCSI disk tool - reassignblock - help please
Date: 23 May 1996 15:53:24 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <4o21lk$p59@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <4nnnu0$5vo@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <4nnr01$sbc@news.cais.com>@?rs.UUCP> <4nnr01$sbc@news.cais.com> <4nq1rh$ejg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <4o0rg1$b6d@filbert.cso.niu.edu>?n <4o1a9j$39k@Venus.mcs.com>
In-Reply-To: <4o1a9j$39k@Venus.mcs.com>
On 05/23/96, Font wrote:
>bennett@filbert.cso.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) writes:
>
>>[about /usr/etc/reasb use]
>
>> Being so quick to reassign blocks is not always wise. Unreadable
>>blocks can happen when there is nothing wrong with the hardware per se.
>>For example, if a write operation is in progress at the time of a power
>>failure, the write may not be completed, leaving an incorrectly coded
>>block. The solution in such a case is to rewrite the block before trying
>>to read it.
>
>How? How does one write to a specific block, or find out what file is
>using that block in order to salvage it before rewriting? Can one map
>out truly bad blocks by having dummy files occupying their space?
>--
>font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
>
Just a note to follow up on my earlier post:
Having exhaustedall other avenues, I finally just used
disk -F /dev/rsd2a
Now the SysAdmin manual says:
If you receive media errors when attempting to access a hard disk, or see
console error messages naming bad blocks, you might need to do a low-level
format of the hard disk. To reformat the disk, enter the following as root,
replacing rsd?a with the appropriate device name.
disk -F /dev/rsd?a
Warning: This command reformats the disk, erasing any existing
data. If you don't have a complete backup, attempt to retrieve important data
from the disk before entering this command.
So I expected to lose all the data on that disk (and yes, I had backups
through a week ago). BUT WAIT!! After I ran disk, I ran fsck, and after
checking all sectors, it began to check pathnames (I didn't expect any to
exist, of course), and took a long time doing it. You guessed it. After
correcting a few pathname problems (on pre-existing path names), the disk was
mounted and the entire file system, including all files, was restored! Of
course I know there is the chance that some of the files may be corrupted, but
I was shocked by this outcome, and have been counting my blessings since then.
The unix gods must have smiled on me that day.
Any explanations? Or is unix really such a benevolent OS?
Randy
--
Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o
__o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\,
_`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> |
(*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\,
FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail trouble - again
Date: 23 May 1996 16:44:30 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-30.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4o24le$b13@usc.edu>
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<Pine.NXT.3.93.960522095335.1773G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Cc: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
In <Pine.NXT.3.93.960522095335.1773G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
>
> I don't know that it is any component other than Mail.app 3.3 itself.
>
> Seems to me that when I started using Mail.app 3.3 it put MIME headers
> into each outgoing message.
>
> Dunno for sure, but I don't think it has anything to do with EnhanceMail.
According to the old thread on this, Mail.app 3.3 does put MIME headers in,
but the note was that only a couple specific mail apps had problems with this
and that the "legal" behavior for mail agents would be to ignore it when the
mail isn't MIME.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
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From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail trouble - again
Date: 23 May 1996 17:10:55 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <4o266v$q08@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <4ll9kl$dfh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>?<slrn4q4tts.e08.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>? <Pine.NXT.3.93.960522095335.1773G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>? <4o24le$b13@usc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4o24le$b13@usc.edu>
I don't know whether this is related, but 3.3's Mail.app consistently
interprets some incoming plain text mail as MIME when it isn't. The result is
that replies in the format of the original aren't, and a particularly cranky
colleague rants about having to take the extra steps his mailer requires to
deal with MIME on my replies to him.
Randy
--
Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o
__o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\,
_`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> |
(*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\,
FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu
From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Clock.app for NS3.3Intel
Date: 23 May 1996 17:49:31 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <4o28fb$hgs@news.tamu.edu>
I'm looking for a small Clock.app to replace the preference.app in NS3.3.
The only ones I found were moto binary only, or the source was preNS3.x days
and wouldn't compile on NS3.3 developer.
thanks
HP
--
Hanspeter Schaub
Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant
Aerospace Engineering Department
Texas A&M University
http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub
schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY!
-Jonathon Livingston Seagull
From: lutzray@9bit.qc.ca (Raymond Lutz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Backup and archiving thoughts (useless)
Date: 23 May 1996 15:12:35 GMT
Organization: SPC
Message-ID: <4o1v93$sti@wagner.spc.videotron.ca>
Auto file archiving (and back up) product?
I guess somebody already thought of this:
Memory media can be viewed hierarchically (no joke!)
here's an example
RAM - Hard disk - [...] - tape juke box
bigger ->
<- faster
1- Back up function: at a given time, every file should always be
on two different media layer.
2- Archiving purpose: an unused file should be eventually moved
automatically to a slower medium.
Seen like this, we can think the hard drive as a memory cache for
the tape: *all* our files are on tape but the disk is faster and
frequently used files stay on the disk. Similarly, the RAM is a
cache for the drive: frequently referenced objects stay in RAM
but unused one get bumped back to the disk (is this virtual memory?)
All this should be transparent for the system and the user of
course: you click on a document, it opens, was it already in RAM?
on the drive? archived somewhere in the tape jukebox? The access
time will tell 8^)
Alors, SafetyNet people? When this scheme will ship within your
most excellent app? 8^)
Why did I posted this anyway? couldn't I go to an IRC channel and
don't bother c.s.n.* people with those lunatic ideas ? 8^)
Bonne journee! RL
From: ver65osc@email.sjsu.edu (me)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WTB: CAD software for NeXT 040
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 11:04:13 +0800
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <ver65osc-2305961104130001@physlab4.sjsu.edu>
Looking for a Cad program for the Next. Including man, disks, etc.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Me :)
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail trouble - again
Date: 23 May 1996 19:16:36 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Sender: reichman@comserv-d-25.usc.edu
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<Pine.NXT.3.93.960522095335.1773G-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4o24le$b13@usc.edu>
<4o266v$q08@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Cc: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu
In <4o266v$q08@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Randy Jackson wrote:
> I don't know whether this is related, but 3.3's Mail.app consistently
> interprets some incoming plain text mail as MIME when it isn't. The result
is
> that replies in the format of the original aren't, and a particularly
cranky
> colleague rants about having to take the extra steps his mailer requires to
> deal with MIME on my replies to him.
The solution, I think, is to set ASCII in the preferences panel.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
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From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: label templates for WriteUp?
Date: 23 May 1996 21:47:43 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <4o2mdv$nt0@news.tamu.edu>
Keywords: label, writeup
Anyone know of any label templates already done up for WriteUp and
archived somewhere?
Stephen Johnson
srjohnson@tamu.edu
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail trouble - again
Date: 23 May 1996 22:48:51 GMT
Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Charlotte, NC - info@char.vnet.net
Distribution: world
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References: <4o2dik$hcj@usc.edu>
In article <4o2dik$hcj@usc.edu> reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
writes:
> In <4o266v$q08@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Randy Jackson wrote:
> > I don't know whether this is related, but 3.3's Mail.app consistently
> > interprets some incoming plain text mail as MIME when it isn't. The
result
> is
> > that replies in the format of the original aren't, and a particularly
> cranky
> > colleague rants about having to take the extra steps his mailer
requires to
> > deal with MIME on my replies to him.
>
> The solution, I think, is to set ASCII in the preferences panel.
You might also need to set "Reply in same format" to OFF.
Roland
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Is Pine (Mail app) compiled for NeXTStep?
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 09:45:22 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960523094144.2335B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4ntqc2$b5t@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960522095102.1773F-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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On Wed, 22 May 1996, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:
> You can get it precompiled for black hardware from:
>
> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed/pico-bin.next.Z
You stupid moronic dolt! The man asked for PINE and you give him a
pointer for PICO? Does that brain of yours have any function whatsoever
other that keeping the sides of your head from touching?
The correct URL for PINE is:
ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed/pine-bin.next.Z
The correct, current size listing is:
-rwxrwxr-x 1 172 0 1671083 Apr 11 17:55 pine-bin.next.Z
At least you got the current version correct, which is 3.93.
TjL's saner twin-brother
--
Timothy J. Luoma
Formerly known as: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
From: Jay <s2139473@cse.unsw.EDU.AU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Why NeXT?
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 16:49:09 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.960524163016.12494A-100000@cello13.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU>
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After hearing some great things about NeXTSTEP-OS, I'd like to know something:
1. Why do id software develop under it ? Whats so great about it (ie that
you can't do under NT or OS/2)?
2. Why should _I_ get it? (I'm a wannabe Game Programmer currently
finishing my CompSci degree at University)
Would glad to hear convincing arguments... (emailed if possible)
Thanks in advance.
Justin
s2139473@cse.unsw.edu.au
http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2139473 <-"The Quake Bestiary"
From: alex@saturn.gestel.it (Alex Mazzardo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PRESS RELEASE: special solidThinking 2.4 prices for education
Date: 24 May 1996 15:53:36 GMT
Organization: Italia Online
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From: fuguen@paris.fdn.fr (Francois UGUEN)
Subject: Re: "Multimedia Birds of Europe" CD-ROM for NS
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Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 22:48:51 GMT
In <4o0qgv$k5v@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> BongOk Kim (kornet) wrote:
> "Multimedia Birds of Europe" CD-ROM for NS
>
> I am looking for "Multimedia Birds of Europe" CD-ROM for NEXTSTEP.
> Does anyone know This CD-ROM?
> Any and all comments welcome.
>
>
> YoungHoon Kil
> From South Korea
> ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr
> http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai
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From: fuguen@paris.fdn.fr (Francois UGUEN)
Subject: CraftMan Engine+ ETI Birds of Europe
Message-ID: <DrvsE9.8Bx@paris.fdn.fr>
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Organization: Individual - PARIS - Francois UGUEN
Date: Thu, 23 May 1996 23:10:57 GMT
Hello
Birds of Europe for NEXTSTEP, a Multimedia Software I purchased in
1994, failed to function when I recently switched to NEXTSTEP 3.3
Martine van der Eerden, from ETI Biodiversity Center told me that the
problem is due to the fact that the CraftMan Engine they used to build
their software is failing to properly open color windows under NS 3.3
As this is very inconvenient and make Birds of Europe almost
unusable, I'd like to know when a bug-fix release of the CraftMan
Engine is planned to be released.
Best regards,
Francois UGUEN
fuguen@paris.fdn.fr
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From: waldek@bg.univ.gda.pl (Waldemar Chrzan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Q: HP DeskJet 1600CM (suplement)
Date: 24 May 1996 15:11:03 GMT
Organization: Politechnika Gdanska
Message-ID: <4o4ji7$l29@sunrise.pg.gda.pl>
Hi !
I send 3 weeks above mail with question about drivers for HP DeskJet 1600
printer for NeXt Step 3.3 (intel). I send error in my question. My printer is
a DeskJet 1600CM. (This is a PostScript network printer)
I want to use high quality color printing mode.
Where I found drivers form my printer or haw to resolve my problem ?
Help mi
From: xgreg@cavern.atmos.colostate.edu (Greg Nuccio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: g++ for NeXT
Date: 24 May 1996 19:35:36 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Message-ID: <4o5328$1nv0@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
Where can I get g++ for a NeXTstation?
Thanks!
ion?
Thanks!
From: Jay <s2139473@cse.unsw.EDU.AU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: Why NeXT?
Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 14:14:52 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales
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On Fri, 24 May 1996, Paul Robert Brown wrote:
> Justin-
>
> You should just sit down at a NeXTstep machine and check it out for
> yourself. I don't think it's the ideal game programming environment, but
> that's coming from someone who wrote Apple II games using a macro
> assmebler, page-flipping animation, and other low-level techniques... Use
> of a high-level language and a compiler seems a little excessive and
> slows things down... For anything that involves a GUI, NeXTstep beats
> everything else available, hands-down. In addition, it's UNIX. I've loved
> UNIX for a long time, since the late '80's, say, and I can't stand DOS...
> OS/2 is a darn good platform, kicks ass on Winblowz .095.
Mmmmmm Unix.
Yuck, saccarine sweet Win95, all sugar no substance. I agree 100%
Linux is a little _too_ meaty. Recompiling kernels isn't my idea of a
good time. NeXTstep seems like a good compromise.
> NeXTstep has good capabilities to allow many people to work on one
> project; it was designed with that in mind. It has the power and
> flexibility of UNIX. It is the premier object-oriented development
> platform out there, period. If you're not familiar with OO, you might not
> see what the hubbub is about; try it, you'll never go back. (Even though
> the last program I wrote was coded directly in assembly code for a
> Pentium machine...)
Yep. Just discovered OO at College, and I like it. I still like to
assembly optimize my graphics inner-loops though :).
Thanks a lot...
Justin
s2139473@cse.unsw.edu.au
http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2139473 <-"The Quake Bestiary"
"A bird in hand is better than one overhead..."
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From: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Why NeXT?
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In
<Pine.ULT.3.91.960524163016.12494A-100000@cello13.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU>
Jay wrote:
>
> After hearing some great things about NeXTSTEP-OS, I'd like to know
something:
>
> 1. Why do id software develop under it ? Whats so great about it (ie that
> you can't do under NT or OS/2)?
>
This question can only be posed by some one who's never done development both
under Unix and one of the other systems mentioned (If he had, he'd not pose
such a stupid question!)
And if he'd know the Unix way and seeing how it's done on NEXTSTEP he'd want
to have one. Period!
> 2. Why should _I_ get it? (I'm a wannabe Game Programmer currently
> finishing my CompSci degree at University)
>
If you're only used to DOS you'd probably better leave it that way, since
you'd spend a considerable bit of time worrying why things must be so
complicated before you'd catch the point. And afterwards you probably could
never be a DOS programmer again ;-)
As a summary: NEXTSTEPpers are bored by the request to talk someboy into it
since they can't understand why people don't just come and see. Or let it
put me that way: it's the same as with oysters. If you don't like'em half a
dozen is too much, and if you like'em half a dozen is not enough.
--
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GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: Why NeXT?
Date: 25 May 1996 18:03:30 GMT
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Cc: nitezki@nidat.sub.org
In <DryK56.G0B@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki wrote:
> As a summary: NEXTSTEPpers are bored by the request to talk someboy into it
> since they can't understand why people don't just come and see. Or let it
> put me that way: it's the same as with oysters. If you don't like'em half
a
> dozen is too much, and if you like'em half a dozen is not enough.
You are definitely a riot, Peter! 8-)
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From: alex@gauss.franken.de (Alexander Much)
Subject: Re: g++ for NeXT
In-Reply-To: greg@cavern.atmos.colostate.edu's message of 24 May 1996 19:37:27 GMT
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Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 10:55:10 GMT
In article <4o535n$1nv0@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
greg@cavern.atmos.colostate.edu (Greg Nuccio) writes:
Where can i get a g++ compliler for a NeXT station?
Thanks!
Try gcc-2.7.2. Works good for me...
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From: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu (Heikki Ketola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: fax-on-demand for NS 3.3
Date: 25 May 1996 05:06:09 -0700
Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA
Message-ID: <4o6t3h$hqh@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
Are there any fax-on-demand programs available for NS 3.3?
heikki ketola
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: SCSI disk tool - reassignblock - help please
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 02:36:20 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
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On 23 May 1996, Randy Jackson wrote:
> from the disk before entering this command.
>
>
> So I expected to lose all the data on that disk (and yes, I had backups
> through a week ago). BUT WAIT!! After I ran disk, I ran fsck, and after
> checking all sectors, it began to check pathnames (I didn't expect any to
> exist, of course), and took a long time doing it. You guessed it. After
> correcting a few pathname problems (on pre-existing path names), the disk was
> mounted and the entire file system, including all files, was restored! Of
> course I know there is the chance that some of the files may be corrupted, but
> I was shocked by this outcome, and have been counting my blessings since then.
> The unix gods must have smiled on me that day.
>
> Any explanations? Or is unix really such a benevolent OS?
>
Ok, I try to explain it, as far Ias I understand the procedure:
There are two meanings of the expression 'low level format# in the UNIX
world. First there is the SCSI low level command, which asks the drive
to perform a reformatting of the hardware medium and mapping out bad
blocks (invisible to the user level) and rebuild certain internal lists.
Second there is the sdform command which in certain implementations just
prepares the medium for later high level formatiing. These utilities are
mostly based on the preformatted medium already!
In both cases you can#t be sure what exactly happens to the medium. I
know e.g. that certain drives don#t do a low level formatting at all,
because they dynamically remap their bad sector tables. Other scan the
medium for error and adjust their tables and again other zero out all
sector so that every information will be lost. I#m pretty much sure you
own one of the first two categories drive.
Best regards
Boerny
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From: svail@regression.next.com (Scott Vail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Adaptec AHA-2920 PCI - SCSI Controller
Date: 26 May 1996 02:01:50 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
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In article <4nskr1$jus@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff) writes:
> dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote:
> : Can anyone tell me if the Adaptec AHA-2920 PCI will work under
NeXTSTep 3.3? If so what driver pkg do I use?
>
> : Thank's in advance,
>
> : David A. Johnson
> : Research Engineer,
> : Feinberg Cardiovascular Research Institute
> : Northwestern University
> As far as I know it is not supported. I just had a look at the NeXT
Answers
> Hardware compatibilty guide and it is not listed there. The 2940 driver
> doesn't support the 2920. Probably you want to have a look at the
Symbios/
> NCR 538xx series. They are cheaper than the 2940 and have the same
performance
> but lack the nice configuration features of the 2940.
>
> Eberhard
>
The Adaptec 2920 is based on the Future Domain chip-set, and since we
don't support any Future Domain adapters, we do not support the Adaptec
2920.
--
This is not official NeXT stuff, so ignore me if you want.
http://www.next.com/~svail/
From: par@MCS.COM (Peter Richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: Why NeXT?
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Date: 26 May 1996 09:01:02 -0500
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Peter Nitezki (nitezki@nidat.sub.org) wrote:
: In
: <Pine.ULT.3.91.960524163016.12494A-100000@cello13.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU>
: Jay wrote:
: > 1. Why do id software develop under it ? Whats so great about it (ie that
: > you can't do under NT or OS/2)?
: >
: This question can only be posed by some one who's never done development both
: under Unix and one of the other systems mentioned (If he had, he'd not pose
: such a stupid question!)
: And if he'd know the Unix way and seeing how it's done on NEXTSTEP he'd want
: to have one. Period!
This has to be the most narrow minded NON answer every seen. I have
programmed under many UNIX OSs (Solaris, HPUX, AIX), DOS and Windows 3.X.
I now am doing most of my work under NeXTStep. I wouldn't trade it back
to the Windows 3.x for anything. But I know nothing about programming
OS/2 or NT or what might be there. AND even programming under NeXTStep
I fail to see what would make it such a great environment of developing
games like ID does. So if you know what makes this environment so GREAT
get off you HIGH HORSE and say something useful. PERIOD!
: > 2. Why should _I_ get it? (I'm a wannabe Game Programmer currently
: > finishing my CompSci degree at University)
: >
: If you're only used to DOS you'd probably better leave it that way, since
: you'd spend a considerable bit of time worrying why things must be so
: complicated before you'd catch the point. And afterwards you probably could
: never be a DOS programmer again ;-)
I feel sorry for you that you can only program on 1 system. That must
seriously limit you. I hope that you have a very stable job.
Peter Richardson
From: apuleius@ix.netcom.com(William Grosso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Re: Why NeXT?
Date: 26 May 1996 17:42:30 GMT
Organization: Netcom
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In <4o9o6u$3og@Venus.mcs.com> par@MCS.COM (Peter Richardson) writes:
>
>Peter Nitezki (nitezki@nidat.sub.org) wrote:
>
>> If you're only used to DOS you'd probably better leave it that
>>way, since you'd spend a considerable bit of time worrying why
>>things must be so complicated before you'd catch the point.
>>And afterwards you probably could never be a DOS programmer again ;-)
>
>I feel sorry for you that you can only program on 1 system. That must
>seriously limit you. I hope that you have a very stable job.
>
Well, he was pretty adept with the horseshit, wasn't he ?
Cheers,
Andy
From: rparkhil@bnr.ca (ROB PARKHILL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniWeb 2
Date: 26 May 1996 18:54:47 GMT
Organization: Nortel
Message-ID: <4oa9dn$4c@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>
Hi All:
I'm running OmniWeb 2.0.1 right now, but I am trying to figure
out why it is so painfully slow. I'm running it on an 040 'station
with only 8Meg RAM right now, but the kind of performance I'm seeing
just can not be blamed on the hardware.
I'm running PPP connected to work on a 14.4 modem. At work, all
internet access goes through a firewall proxy server.
To load up a simple page of text (5 lines, all the proper HTML tags,
no tables or graphics) with OmniWeb 2 takes anywhere from 4 to 11(!!)
minutes.
To load the exact same page with lynx running on the same machine
takes about 3 seconds (from the time I hit return after entering the
URL to the time it is fully displayed).
What on earth could possibly cause OmniWeb 2 to take so terribly long?
Most of that time the modem is sitting idle, and OmniWeb is displaying
"SGMLtoRTF: Running". Is this the bottleneck?
I sure hope that lynx gets tables support soon, because as it sits,
OmniWeb is completely unuseable on this machine.
later...
Rob
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NORTEL, Ottawa | to build its Web site - using WEBOBJECTS,
phone:/613.763.6264/~rob | you could build that same site in four
mailto:rparkhil@bnr.ca | hours." - Steve Jobs - www.next.com
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
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Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 21:09:42 GMT
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In article <4oa9dn$4c@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>, ROB PARKHILL <rparkhil@bnr.ca> wrote:
>Hi All:
>
> I'm running OmniWeb 2.0.1 right now, but I am trying to figure
>out why it is so painfully slow. I'm running it on an 040 'station
>with only 8Meg RAM right now, but the kind of performance I'm seeing
>just can not be blamed on the hardware.
>
OmniWeb is very memory hungry; it maintains its cache in main memory instead
of on disk. I find it quite happy on my 16MB cube.
>I'm running PPP connected to work on a 14.4 modem. At work, all
>internet access goes through a firewall proxy server.
>
I use it through a 28.8 PPP link, although with no proxy on the other end.
>I sure hope that lynx gets tables support soon, because as it sits,
>OmniWeb is completely unuseable on this machine.
>
Apparently the latest Lynx has table support but I haven't seen it.
--
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: tcsh newline problems
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <Ds1A99.3wt@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 22:24:45 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
Hi.
I'm using the tcsh from Peanuts ($version is tcsh 6.06.00 (Cornell)
1995-05-13 (m68k-next-mach) options 8b,nls,dl,al,rh) and I've noticed that,
even though Terminal.app's preferences are set to wrap lines, long lines
printed by programs executed by the shell do not wrap--characters just pile up
at the end of a line.
Is there a simple cure for this?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.usenet.offline-reader
From: Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG (Russell Schulz)
Subject: Re: Soup Reader
Message-ID: <960526.134500.0A8.rnr.w164w@locutus.ofB.ORG>
Date: Sun, 26 May 1996 13:45:00 -0600
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Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
Late-Comment: yes, I haven't been keeping current on c.s.n.software
CC: poster
soren@zeus.datashopper.dk (Soren Mathiasen) writes:
> does anyone have a soup offline reader for NS3.3,
it should be easy to turn SOUP into any sort of folder that any
mail package will read.
> or a textfile with the soup format.
from the alt.usenet.offline-reader FAQ:
* for the SimTel collection, just use `simtel' for the ftp site, and
give the first two directories (e.g., `msdos/offline') plus filename.
the main SimTel mirrors are ftp.coast.net:/Simtel and the old
primary mirror oak.oakland.edu:/SimTel/
soup simtel:msdos/offline/soup12.zip
soup http://www.gatech.edu/acm/soup12.html
soup http://www.yak.net/combee/soup12.html
--
Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG Shad 86c
From: violette@earthlink.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Converting DOS partition
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 00:18:56 -0700
Organization: Vasilisa Productions
Message-ID: <31A95760.5791@earthlink.net>
References: <4nq5di$f61@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Randy Jackson wrote:
>
> I have a 2 GB disk that currently has 2 1GB partitions, one for DOS and one
> for NeXT. I want to cut the DOS partition down to .5 GB, and devote another
> .5 GB to NeXT. Do I just boot into DOS, run fdisk, and remove the primary
> DOS partition, then create a newe DOS and new non-DOS partition? Then, will I
> be able to simply initialize the NeXT partition when I next boot up NeXT?
>
> Anything else I should be aware of?
>
Can we just swap computers? I have exactly the opposite problem.
I would appreciate hearing your solution, seriously.
-patricia
From: violette@earthlink.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: sending mail thru PPP - help :-)
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 00:34:05 -0700
Organization: Vasilisa Productions
Message-ID: <31A95AED.6823@earthlink.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
A while back John Feiler (my former officemate and the
scoundrel who introduced me to NeXT bless his heart) sent
me instructions for modifying sendmail so I can send
mail through my PPP connection. But I didn't have a driving
need to make it work so I never got it to work. I think
I just entered the name of the mailserver incorrectly but...
A few disk crashes and so on later I am back to the original
sendmail file with no record of those instructions. So I
need those please. On how to modify sendmail.hosts.cf for
PPP connections.
Also - as I remember that allowed me to send but I still
needed to do a separate Popover to download the mail
from the remote server.
Is this still true, or have the capabilities of Eudora
been transferred somehow to NS in some App I just
don't know about yet?
Can someone help me please? :-)
-patricia
PS NeXTmail should go to patricia@theory.caltech.edu, not
violette@vasilisa.com.
From: dahl@panda.halcyon.com (Austin Dahl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: News on OmniWeb
Date: 27 May 1996 00:42:56 GMT
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc.
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4oatqg$5oa@news.halcyon.com>
I'm having no luck having OmiWeb (2.0.1) read news: URLs. Is this even
possible? If so, can someone point me to documentation on how to tell
OmniWeb about my news server.
Thanks,
Austin Dahl
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: CraftMan Engine+ ETI Birds of Europe
Date: 26 May 1996 17:51:31 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4oa5n3$roq@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <DrvsE9.8Bx@paris.fdn.fr>
In-Reply-To: <DrvsE9.8Bx@paris.fdn.fr>
On 05/24/96, Francois UGUEN wrote:
> As this is very inconvenient and make Birds of Europe almost
> unusable, I'd like to know when a bug-fix release of the CraftMan
> Engine is planned to be released.
>
Umm, sorry -- CraftMan was developed by Xanthus, who sadly went out of
business a while back. Most of their applications were taken over by
Lighthouse, but I've seen no indication that a re-release is in the offing.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 27 May 1996 04:15:13 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4oba8h$g04@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives
Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups.
news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
news:comp.sys.next.software
This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS.
NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL
To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com.
Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
sent as ASCII text files instead.
To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
body of the message. You can request several files in a single message.
You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
These commands affect the way that files you request are sent:
ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text
SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME
Message/Partial specification
REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses
These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system:
HELP returns this help file
INDEX returns the list of all available files
INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest
SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list
(ignoring capitalization)
For example, a message with the following Subject line requests
three files:
Subject: 2101 2234 1109
A message with this body requests the same three files be
sent as ASCII text files:
2101 2234 1109 ascii
This message requests two lists of files, one for each search:
Subject:
SEARCH Dell SCSI
SEARCH NetInfo domain
NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different
address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command
REPLY-TO <your-address>
If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement,
please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX
To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and
follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to
identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the
files will be faxed to you.
If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada.
USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB
To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web
server at URL http://www.next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP
To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM
To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: News on OmniWeb
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <Ds2IqI.EpJ@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 14:25:30 GMT
References: <4oatqg$5oa@news.halcyon.com>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4oatqg$5oa@news.halcyon.com>, Austin Dahl <dahl@halcyon.com> wrote:
>I'm having no luck having OmiWeb (2.0.1) read news: URLs. Is this even
>possible? If so, can someone point me to documentation on how to tell
>OmniWeb about my news server.
>
From what I understand, news URLs are not directly supported by OmniWeb 2.x.
If you install their services bundle they will open in your favourite news
reader (Alexandra, Radical News, etc.)
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail trouble - again
Date: 27 May 1996 21:40:13 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4qk815.9ff.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <4ll9kl$dfh@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <slrn4q4tts.e08.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com> <4o24le$b13@usc.edu>
On 23 May 1996 16:44:30 GMT, Matthew N. Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> wrote:
> According to the old thread on this, Mail.app 3.3 does put MIME headers
> in, but the note was that only a couple specific mail apps had problems with
> this and that the "legal" behavior for mail agents would be to ignore it
> when the mail isn't MIME.
Ignoring the headers doesn't always work if the contents of the e-mail has
MIME stuff. To me, the real bother is the wasted bandwidth. Some people
pay for their network usage by the byte, so extraneous headers and
superfluous data cost extra money.
--
Due to local news server and feed problems, I might not see all followups.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gosman@netcom.com (www.servsol.com)
Subject: http://www.servsol.com
Message-ID: <gosmanDs2yAr.FI6@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 20:01:39 GMT
Sender: gosman@netcom11.netcom.com
Please evaluate our home page
www.servsol.com
Thanks
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: sending mail thru PPP - help :-)
Date: 27 May 1996 21:16:01 GMT
Organization: Como me Gusta productions
Sender: reichman@comserv-g-04.usc.edu
Message-ID: <4od62h$lk4@usc.edu>
References: <31A95AED.6823@earthlink.net>
Cc: violette@earthlink.net
In <31A95AED.6823@earthlink.net> violette@earthlink.net wrote:
[snip]
> A few disk crashes and so on later I am back to the original
> sendmail file with no record of those instructions. So I
> need those please. On how to modify sendmail.hosts.cf for
> PPP connections.
I gather your using the original sendmail that came with NS.
The most common reason why one wouldn't be able to send out mail is that the
From is not rewritten to match ones fully qualified domain.
The solution is, assuming that you have correctly set up your replacement
hostname in the Dj macro, to comment out the "canonical hostname" line in
ruleset S6.
On the other hand, I'm a strong advocate for upgrading sendmail to the most
recent version 8.7.5 which has very easy ways to control things like this.
> Also - as I remember that allowed me to send but I still
> needed to do a separate Popover to download the mail
> from the remote server.
>
> Is this still true, or have the capabilities of Eudora
> been transferred somehow to NS in some App I just
> don't know about yet?
No. PopOver is still the thing to have, but you can have it automatically
called when you login so that you won't even notice you're using it.
--
Be well,
Matthew Reichman
reichman@usc.edu
USC-CNTV
NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k
NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome
===============================================================
PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
---------------------------------------------------------------
Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: Greg Howland <gregory@shore.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: sending mail thru PPP - help :-)
Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 22:55:07 -0400
Organization: Shore.Net/Eco Software, Inc; (info@shore.net)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.93.960527224800.2939A-100000@northshore.shore.net>
References: <31A95AED.6823@earthlink.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: violette@earthlink.net
In-Reply-To: <31A95AED.6823@earthlink.net>
A while back John Feiler (my former officemate and the
scoundrel who introduced me to NeXT bless his heart) sent
me instructions for modifying sendmail so I can send
mail through my PPP connection. But I didn't have a driving
need to make it work so I never got it to work. I think
I just entered the name of the mailserver incorrectly but...
A few disk crashes and so on later I am back to the original
sendmail file with no record of those instructions. So I
need those please. On how to modify sendmail.hosts.cf for
PPP connections...
Here is an excerpt from the NeXTppp faq which can be found
at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/NeXT_PPP_FAQ.html
--Greg
How do I set up my system to send mail?
John Jay Feiler <jjfeiler@relief.com>
writes:
You have to tell sendmail to forward the mail to the right place.
Make sure that /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf is a link to
/etc/sendmail/sendmail.mailhost.cf. Then, in
/etc/sendmail/sendmail.mailhost.cf, change the lines that read:
# major relay host: use the $M mailer to send mail to other domains
# To have mail automatically forwarded to other domains, you should
# replace this with the name of your major relay host.
DR mail-relay
CR mail-relay
You can do either of two things. Either edit this file, replacing
mail-relay with the machine that's on the other end of your ppp
connection (or the name of the machine that your provider says is the
mail relay host), or define an alias in netinfo for that machine, with
the name mail-relay.
You should also change
# Major relay mailer - typical choice is "ddn" if you are on the
# Defense Data Network (e.g. Arpanet or Milnet). All mail for
# non-local domains will be forwarded to the major relay host using
# the major relay mailer. We chose "uucp" as the default because most
# isolated networks use it to link their network with the outside
# world.
#
# If you want to use a relay mailer, examine ruleset 0. There are
some
# rules that need to be uncommented
DMuucp
to
DMether
so that sendmail tries to send the mail directly, instead of
queueing it up for uucp. You also want something like 'sendmail -q'
in your /etc/ppp/ip-up script, so that when you bring the link up,
mail will be sent to your mail-relay.
You'll also want to change the lines toward the end of the file as
instructed.
# If you want to pass all other explicit domain names up the ladder
# to our forwarder then uncomment the following line.
#R$*<@$*.$+>$* $#$M $@$R $:$1<@$2.$3>$4
user@any.domain
# and comment out this one.
R$*<@$+.$->$* $#ddn $@ $2.$3 $:$1<@$2.$3>$4
user@any.domain
Hope this helps...
John
From: pbrown@palms.berkeley.edu (Paul Robert Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Speaking English dictionary and grammar checker for NS
Date: 28 May 1996 07:00:51 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Message-ID: <4oe8b3$3uk@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <4nkt8p$pr1@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <Ds3LK3.1HK@papageno.rim.or.jp>
In article <Ds3LK3.1HK@papageno.rim.or.jp>,
Hiroshi TOMARU <hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp> wrote:
>By "a speaking dictionary" I mean a dictionary software that
>contains high-quality recordings of words and phrases
>pronounced by professional native speakers. I intend to use it
>to learn oral English more effectively as a second language.
Tomarusan-
Native English is a red herring. (Professional english speakers are
probably out of work hand models... [sic]) Save your money.
To learn oral English, you will need an idiomatic knowledge of English and
a knowledge of the slang for the given dialect of English you'd like to
know. Australians, people from different regions of the US, Irish,
Scottish, and various flavors of English all have widely varying slang
and idiomatic expressions. On a trip to Korea, I found that I could
confuse my (very gracious) hosts by using a bad Scottish accent. A fellow
conference-goer from Leister might as well have spoken Attic Greek; his
bad American accent wasn't good enough...
Oral proficiency with a language is obtained only through conversation (at
least in my experience), so you should find someone (preferably a native
of whichever English-speaking country you hope to engage in commerce) and
practice, practice, practice. I don't know how you perceive your
lanaguage, but I can tell you that most English speakers "feel" their
language as opposed to "know"; a "feel" for a language is what facilitates
smooth conversation and communication.
Besides, if you speak too well, we'll KNOW you're not a native...
Best,
Paul
From: mandel@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Luis Mandel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Prolog
Date: 28 May 1996 10:29:16 GMT
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Message-ID: <4oekhs$afh@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Hi!
I am looking for a prolog interpreter running as an NextStep application.
Is there anyone?
Regards, Luis
--
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| /// Luis Mandel mandel@informatik.uni-muenchen.de |
| (. .) http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~mandel |
+oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------------------------------------+
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <gosmanDs2yAr.FI6@netcom.com>
Control: cancel <gosmanDs2yAr.FI6@netcom.com>
Date: 28 May 1996 08:51:18 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4oeeq6$cd@turbocat.snafu.de>
cancel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Subject: Re: Speaking English dictionary and grammar checker for NS
Message-ID: <Ds3LK3.1HK@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN
References: <4nkt8p$pr1@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 04:24:02 GMT
In article <4nkt8p$pr1@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford
<m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes:
: On 05/18/96, Hiroshi TOMARU wrote:
: > I am almost buying "American Heritage Speaking Dictionary"
: > and English grammar checker for Windouze. Are any comparable
: > speaking dictionaries and grammar checkers available for NEXTSTEP
: > at reasonable price?
: >
: > (Now you know I need English checker:-)
: > ---
: A couple of ideas come to mind if all you want to do is synthesise the text?
:
By "a speaking dictionary" I mean a dictionary software that
contains high-quality recordings of words and phrases
pronounced by professional native speakers. I intend to use it
to learn oral English more effectively as a second language.
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Subject: Re: Adaptec AHA-2920 PCI - SCSI Controller
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Date: 28 May 1996 10:25:19 GMT
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Scott Vail (svail@regression.next.com) wrote:
: In article <4nskr1$jus@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
: 3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff) writes:
: > dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote:
: > : Can anyone tell me if the Adaptec AHA-2920 PCI will work under
: NeXTSTep 3.3? If so what driver pkg do I use?
: >
: > : Thank's in advance,
: >
: > : David A. Johnson
: > : Research Engineer,
: > : Feinberg Cardiovascular Research Institute
: > : Northwestern University
: > As far as I know it is not supported. I just had a look at the NeXT
: Answers
: > Hardware compatibilty guide and it is not listed there. The 2940 driver
: > doesn't support the 2920. Probably you want to have a look at the
: Symbios/
: > NCR 538xx series. They are cheaper than the 2940 and have the same
: performance
: > but lack the nice configuration features of the 2940.
: >
: > Eberhard
: >
: The Adaptec 2920 is based on the Future Domain chip-set, and since we
: don't support any Future Domain adapters, we do not support the Adaptec
: 2920.
: --
: This is not official NeXT stuff, so ignore me if you want.
: http://www.next.com/~svail/
Date: 28 May 1996 13:28:47 GMT
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From: Michael.Gentry@mci.com (Michael Gentry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
Date: 28 May 1996 14:34:39 GMT
Organization: MCI Telecommunications
Message-ID: <4of2tv$gji@www.mci.com>
References: <4oa9dn$4c@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>
In-Reply-To: <4oa9dn$4c@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>
On 05/26/96, ROB PARKHILL wrote:
>Hi All:
>
>I'm running OmniWeb 2.0.1 right now, but I am trying to figure
>out why it is so painfully slow. I'm running it on an 040 'station
>with only 8Meg RAM right now, but the kind of performance I'm seeing
>just can not be blamed on the hardware.
Actually, I think it can be blamed on the hardware ... name the 8 MB
of RAM. I've got a NeXTstation (with more memory) and everything
works fine although OmniWeb 2.0 is a tad slower than 1.0, which is
understandable since it is doing more.
NeXTstep is memory hungry and gets real slow with inadequate memory.
OmniWeb is also terribly memory hungry. The reason things are so slow
is because of all the swapping being performed. The only real way to
fix it, at this point, is to add more physical memory.
- mrg
P.S. It isn't just a NeXTstep/OmniWeb problem. A friend of mine runs
Linux/Netscape and noticed a tremendous improvement when he added more
memory. If you ran Linux/Netscape with only 8 MB of RAM it would
crawl, also. Especially with an Emacs process or two running! B^)
--
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From: moser@ifor26.ethz.ch (Dominik Moser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cfengine for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 28 May 1996 14:24:22 GMT
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ)
Message-ID: <4of2am$fnu@elna.ethz.ch>
Keywords: cfengine
I'm looking for cfengine V1.3.0 for NEXTSTEP. Anyone successfully compiled it
under NS 3.3 (HP and Intel architecture)?
Thanks,
Dominik
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From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail trouble - again
Date: 28 May 1996 15:08:48 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <4of4u0$chd@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <4o2dik$hcj@usc.edu>?% <4o2q0j$2jq@ralph.vnet.net>
In-Reply-To: <4o2q0j$2jq@ralph.vnet.net>
On 05/23/96, Roland Telfeyan wrote:
>In article <4o2dik$hcj@usc.edu> reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman)
>writes:
>> In <4o266v$q08@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Randy Jackson wrote:
>> > I don't know whether this is related, but 3.3's Mail.app consistently
>> > interprets some incoming plain text mail as MIME when it isn't. The
>result
>> is
>> > that replies in the format of the original aren't, and a particularly
>> cranky
>> > colleague rants about having to take the extra steps his mailer
>requires to
>> > deal with MIME on my replies to him.
>>
>> The solution, I think, is to set ASCII in the preferences panel.
>
I had done this already,
>You might also need to set "Reply in same format" to OFF.
Had to add this to get the desired result.
Thanks.
>
>Roland
>
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From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Clock.app for NS3.3Intel
Date: 28 May 1996 15:53:13 GMT
Organization: ALI
Message-ID: <4of7h9$3gb@cetus.ali.bc.ca>
References: <4o28fb$hgs@news.tamu.edu>
Cc: schaub@tamu.edu
In comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Hanspeter Schaub wrote:
> I'm looking for a small Clock.app to replace the preference.app in NS3.3.
> The only ones I found were moto binary only, or the source was preNS3.x
days
> and wouldn't compile on NS3.3 developer.
Try Cassandra.app (originally by Karen J. Nakamura but now maintained by
Garance Drosehn at RPI). It can be downloaded from:
ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/apps/Cassandra_f/
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From: rparkhil@bnr.ca (ROB PARKHILL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
Date: 28 May 1996 16:24:44 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Message-ID: <4of9cc$58b@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>
References: <4oa9dn$4c@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <4of2tv$gji@www.mci.com>
In article <4of2tv$gji@www.mci.com>,
Michael Gentry <Michael.Gentry@mci.com> wrote:
>On 05/26/96, ROB PARKHILL wrote:
>>Hi All:
>>
>>I'm running OmniWeb 2.0.1 right now, but I am trying to figure
>>out why it is so painfully slow. I'm running it on an 040 'station
>>with only 8Meg RAM right now, but the kind of performance I'm seeing
>>just can not be blamed on the hardware.
>
>Actually, I think it can be blamed on the hardware ... name the 8 MB
>of RAM. I've got a NeXTstation (with more memory) and everything
>works fine although OmniWeb 2.0 is a tad slower than 1.0, which is
>understandable since it is doing more.
While I agree that I desperately need more RAM, I still don't see why
OmniWeb 2 takes up to 11 minutes to load a simple page of text. I can
see it taking longer than lynx, since it has far less overhead, but 11
minutes? Did I get a copy with debugging still turned on?
If I were to run WordPerfect, Newsgrazer, Diagram! 2, Improv, and the
mandelbrot demo all at the same time, I still get better response than
I do if OmniWeb 2 is the only app running on my machine.
I'll admit that the only way to fix this problem is going to be by
adding more RAM to my system, but it's a web-browser for heavens sake.
It shouldn't be hogging those kinds of resources...
later...
Rob
--
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NORTEL, Ottawa | to build its Web site - using WEBOBJECTS,
phone:/613.763.6264/~rob | you could build that same site in four
mailto:rparkhil@bnr.ca | hours." - Steve Jobs - www.next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gdkuch@barrow.uwaterloo.ca (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 18:01:02 GMT
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Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4of9cc$58b@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>, ROB PARKHILL <rparkhil@bnr.ca> wrote:
>In article <4of2tv$gji@www.mci.com>,
>Michael Gentry <Michael.Gentry@mci.com> wrote:
>>On 05/26/96, ROB PARKHILL wrote:
>>>Hi All:
>>
>>Actually, I think it can be blamed on the hardware ... name the 8 MB
>>of RAM. I've got a NeXTstation (with more memory) and everything
>>works fine although OmniWeb 2.0 is a tad slower than 1.0, which is
>>understandable since it is doing more.
>
>While I agree that I desperately need more RAM, I still don't see why
>OmniWeb 2 takes up to 11 minutes to load a simple page of text. I can
>see it taking longer than lynx, since it has far less overhead, but 11
>minutes? Did I get a copy with debugging still turned on?
The point seems to be that you have too little physical memory. OmniWeb
eats quite a bit of memory. Thus you swap... and you thrash... and things
get very slow.
>If I were to run WordPerfect, Newsgrazer, Diagram! 2, Improv, and the
>mandelbrot demo all at the same time, I still get better response than
>I do if OmniWeb 2 is the only app running on my machine.
You said you have 8MB of RAM? What are you expecting? Take out four
of those megs and you'll notice that your machine takes forever to
boot up and almost as long for you to get from the login box to
Workspace. Once you're in the Workspace you'll notice that things are
unusably slow. In fact, the disk access will probably never stop even
if you walk away from the machine for twenty minutes since with that
little memory you practically need VM to stay afloat. (This is kind
of a fun thing to watch provided you don't need to get any work done)
Your 8MB system is the smallest possible memory increment above a
machine that never stops paging even with virtually nothing running.
OmniWeb is a very new and kind of large app. It should be no surprise
that it torments your configuration given that under 3.2 or 3.3 8MB
makes for a slow machine when you're running Terminal.app...
>I'll admit that the only way to fix this problem is going to be by
>adding more RAM to my system, but it's a web-browser for heavens sake.
>It shouldn't be hogging those kinds of resources...
I don't know why you expect the resource requirements of a modern, heavily
featured web browser to be so low. Netscape's no svelte piece of work on
any of the platforms that run it either...
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 18:17:02 GMT
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Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4of9cc$58b@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>, ROB PARKHILL <rparkhil@bnr.ca> wrote:
>
>While I agree that I desperately need more RAM, I still don't see why
>OmniWeb 2 takes up to 11 minutes to load a simple page of text. I can
>see it taking longer than lynx, since it has far less overhead, but 11
>minutes? Did I get a copy with debugging still turned on?
>
If it's 2.0.1, then no.
>If I were to run WordPerfect, Newsgrazer, Diagram! 2, Improv, and the
>mandelbrot demo all at the same time, I still get better response than
>I do if OmniWeb 2 is the only app running on my machine.
>
>I'll admit that the only way to fix this problem is going to be by
>adding more RAM to my system, but it's a web-browser for heavens sake.
>It shouldn't be hogging those kinds of resources...
>
OW2.x is also Foundation-based, which likely makes it a little more hungry
than it otherwise might be.
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From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WinCenter with Next turbo color
Date: 28 May 1996 15:13:27 GMT
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Distribution: world
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In article <4nqfru$58p@s2.asi.fr> cerdini@asi.fr (Michel CERDINI) writes:
> Is someone use wincenter with a next turbo color ?
> I have some problems with the keyboard...
> It doesn't work well, and I can type any digits with it !
> Any ideas ?
I assume you're talking about the NCD WinCenter product running on an NT
box, and displaying on your NeXT box via an X11 server. We had a similar
problem with Cub X talking to our WinCenter server (only non-alpha keys
got passed to the WinCenter server).
The kind folks at Intuitive Systems tracked down the problem, and sent us
a patch about a week ago. Solved our problems for us. I imagine the fix
will make it into the next rev.
--
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From: magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA (Magnan Francois)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEED HELP QUICKLY: PPP setup
Date: 28 May 1996 23:03:25 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <MAGNAN.96May28190325@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA>
HI,
I am trying to install PPP on an INTEL based machine.
I followed all the instructions including the HostaManager.app
instructions (that tell to use local netinfo only).
However, sendmail and other programs don't work
because of some netinfo timeouts. It seems that the
machine can't read it's own netinfo local database.
What did I do wrong. I installed PPP on three NeXT Cubes and
I never saw this before.
I must really do this before Wednesday. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Francois Magnan
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From: markm@subzero.winternet.com (Mark Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Strange behavior with PPP 0.4.6 and PopOver 1.4
Date: 29 May 1996 04:48:57 GMT
Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc
Message-ID: <4ogkvp$7d5@blackice.winternet.com>
Recently, my color NeXTstation seems to behave rather strangely with
PPP 0.4.6 and PopOver 1.4.
After starting PPP with the "pppup" script, it appears that PopOver
is being restarting a few times which never seemed to happen before.
Below is a capture of the console messages:
Software Version 3.3 (Lightning9I)
PPP Reinitializing nmserver's network portion
May 28 20:24:01 slab netmsgserver[22]: network_init
PPP Reinitializing nmserver's network portion
May 28 20:24:05 slab netmsgserver[22]: network_init
I've tried to debug the problem but am stumped as to why this is
happening. Any suggestions or comments?
Thanks in advance.
--
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markm@winternet.com | can't understand." - Steely Dan
From: afi@d-tech.de (Alfred Fiedler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: Moving Subviews in Superviews
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 07:10:04 GMT
Organization: Customer of EUnet Germany; Info: info@Germany.EU.net
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4ogsie$frd@Dortmund.Germany.EU.net>
Hi all,,
I do not have much practice in programming with Obj-C, but have a
problem:.
Assume there is a View (e.g. called background) containing some
subviews. Now I want to move the subviews around in an arbitrary way..
I know I can do this by e.g.
[subView1 moveBy:xLoc:yLoc];;
Unfortunately by doing this "subView1" is presented twice: At the old
and at the new position..
Ok, ok one solution to this problem is to erase the whole contents of
superview and build the whole scenery from the very first beginning
but with the new positions of subviews.
This seems to be an ugly and slow solution.
Please e-mail me, if there is a better or faster or more elegant
solution for the described problem.
Thanks in advance,
Alfred.
From: bilchan@station.net (Billy Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.usenet.offline-reader
Subject: Re: Soup Reader
Date: 29 May 1996 08:06:45 GMT
Organization: Hong Kong Internet Station
Message-ID: <bIOrx40UTaQB089yn@station.net>
References: <sqJQxcm0fdsd089yn@zeus.datashopper.dk>
<960526.134500.0A8.rnr.w164w@locutus.ofB.ORG>
* On Wed, 29 May 1996 15:47:39 -0800, Russell Schulz wrote:
R>it should be easy to turn SOUP into any sort of folder that any
R>mail package will read.
R>soup simtel:msdos/offline/soup12.zip
Do you know of any version of UQWK that supports email besides news?
Billy bilchan@station.net
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,sci.lang
Subject: Re: Speaking English dictionary and grammar checker for NS
Date: 29 May 1996 09:04:05 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4oh3u5$ljv@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4nkt8p$pr1@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <Ds3LK3.1HK@papageno.rim.or.jp> <4oe8b3$3uk@agate.berkeley.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4oe8b3$3uk@agate.berkeley.edu>
On 05/28/96, Paul Robert Brown wrote:
> In article <Ds3LK3.1HK@papageno.rim.or.jp>,
> Hiroshi TOMARU <hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp> wrote:
> >By "a speaking dictionary" I mean a dictionary software that
> >contains high-quality recordings of words and phrases
> >pronounced by professional native speakers. I intend to use it
> >to learn oral English more effectively as a second language.
>
> Tomarusan-
>
> Native English is a red herring. (Professional english speakers are
> probably out of work hand models... [sic]) Save your money.
>
> To learn oral English, you will need an idiomatic knowledge of English and
> a knowledge of the slang for the given dialect of English you'd like to
> know. Australians, people from different regions of the US, Irish,
> Scottish, and various flavors of English all have widely varying slang
> and idiomatic expressions. On a trip to Korea, I found that I could
> confuse my (very gracious) hosts by using a bad Scottish accent. A fellow
> conference-goer from Leister might as well have spoken Attic Greek; his
> bad American accent wasn't good enough...
>
> Oral proficiency with a language is obtained only through conversation (at
> least in my experience), so you should find someone (preferably a native
> of whichever English-speaking country you hope to engage in commerce) and
> practice, practice, practice. I don't know how you perceive your
> lanaguage, but I can tell you that most English speakers "feel" their
> language as opposed to "know"; a "feel" for a language is what facilitates
> smooth conversation and communication.
>
8-)
Hey, wow, great answer!
Whilst I think I'd agree for the most part, I think there is some mileage in
what Tomaru-san wants...
Consider the sort of corpora that are now becoming available to the "Natural
language processing" community which allow the investigation of words in
context, and have facilitated the development, for example, of the COBUILD
dictionary of English (cf John Sinclair's work at Birmingham University,
England).
Exactly the same sort of resources, and techniques, can be employed when
teaching foreign languages (and it so happens that many of the resources
available are in English, which in this case is useful!). Instead of simply
looking up words in isolation in a dictionary, students can quickly and
easily see examples of words used in context, and get a much better feel for
their colloquial usage. This is good for the written language, and is being
used in at least one language-teaching application -- Oleada -- being
developed by Bill Ogden and colleagues at New Mexico State University. I
can't see any reason in principle (subject to the availability of sufficient
quantities of transcribed speech) why the technique should not in principle
be extended to spoken language. Combining this with automatic speech
recognition may make the application even more powerful...
It's important to use up-to-date resources for this, of course: an
investigation of the spoken part of the recently-released British National
Corpus revealed that whilst those over 35 consistently used the word "bad" to
convey its dictionary meaning, those under 25 or so consistently used it to
mean "good". This tells us a number of things: Micheal Jackson has a lot to
answer for; language is not a static entity, and those who campaign for
"traditional standards" are out of touch with reality (*); and those of us
aged between 25 and 35 are confused! :-)
Best wishes,
mmalc.
posn. research facilitator
where institute for language speech and hearing
sheffield university
west court
2 mappin street
sheffield s1 4dt
england
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(*) This should be plainly obvious to anyone... many of those arguing for
traditional values also place great cultural value on Shakespeare, much (but
not all, of course) of whose language is now obscure at best. On a related
theme, I'm currently rehearsing for the part of Sordido in Middleton's "Women
beware women", and have the following exchange:
Ward I beat him out o'th'field with his own cat-stick,
Yet gave him the first hand.
Sordido Oh strange!
Ward I did it, then he set jacks on me.
Sordido What, my lady's tailor?
Ward Ay, and I beat him too.
Sordido Nay, that's no wonder, He's use to beating.
Now, apart from "cat-stick" and "jacks", which may be a little difficult to
fathom, I wonder if anyone can tell me why "beating" is a clever pun...?
--
From: wongj@alum01.its.rpi.edu (Jasper Y. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DiskQuota
Date: 29 May 1996 07:35:31 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Message-ID: <4oguo3$cns@usenet.rpi.edu>
Does NS3.3 allow for quota control? Can I edit /etc/fstab and
remove [,noquota] to make the filesystem quota-ready? I don't
seem to be able to find the standard quota utils anywhere on
the system, can I just grab some BSD equivalents and have
them recompiled?
Jasper
jyw@jasper.hko.net
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From: rainer@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhfer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: DPS: NeXT->SUN (or other un*x)
Date: 29 May 1996 11:59:32 GMT
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
Message-ID: <4ohe74$sj1@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Ups, probably a tough one:
Solaris 2.x includes Display Postscript
As far as I know, Digital Unix (former OSF/1) does, too (Ultrix did)
HP-UX?
And NeXTSTEP relies on DPS.
Wouldn't it be possible to get the Workspace displayed on a Sun?
You'd need to modify the login program, but is it that much of a hassle?
Did anybody ever try this?
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wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels
vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kono@ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp (Shinji Kono)
Subject: Re: Prolog
Sender: news@spn.ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp (News System Admin)
Organization: Information Engineering, University of the Ryukyus
Message-ID: <Ds65J0.BnH@spn.ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp>
Originator: kono@rananim.ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp
References: <4oekhs$afh@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:30:35 GMT
In article <4oekhs$afh@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> ,
mandel@informatik.uni-muenchen.de writes
>I am looking for a prolog interpreter running as an NextStep application.
>Is there anyone?
I tried SICStus Prolog and is working well. But you have to buy
it from sicstus-request@sics.se. (No so cheap)
See comp.lang.prolog, they have good list of Prolog. Ex. XSB
is reasonably good free software. But I haven't tried yet.
--
Shinji KONO @ Information Engineering, University of the Ryukyus
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From: anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Prolog
Date: 29 May 1996 14:41:13 GMT
Organization: Yale University
Message-ID: <4ohnm9$d41@news.ycc.yale.edu>
References: <4oekhs$afh@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <Ds65J0.BnH@spn.ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp>
In-Reply-To: <Ds65J0.BnH@spn.ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp>
On 05/29/96, Shinji Kono wrote:
>In article <4oekhs$afh@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> ,
> mandel@informatik.uni-muenchen.de writes
>>I am looking for a prolog interpreter running as an NextStep
application.
>>Is there anyone?
>
>I tried SICStus Prolog and is working well. But you have to buy
>it from sicstus-request@sics.se. (No so cheap)
>
>See comp.lang.prolog, they have good list of Prolog. Ex. XSB
>is reasonably good free software. But I haven't tried yet.
I have XSB Prolog on my cube, and while I haven't used it for much
myself, a student of mine did her senior thesis project with this
system last term, and found it very good.
I think you can find it at
ftp://cs.sunysb.edu/pub/XSB/XSB.tar.Z
--Steve Anderson
Dept. of Linguistics
Yale University
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
Date: 29 May 1996 15:04:23 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4qoplm.r61.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <4oa9dn$4c@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>
On 26 May 1996 18:54:47 GMT, ROB PARKHILL <rparkhil@bnr.ca> wrote:
> I'm running OmniWeb 2.0.1 right now, but I am trying to figure
> out why it is so painfully slow. I'm running it on an 040 'station
> with only 8Meg RAM right now, but the kind of performance I'm seeing
> just can not be blamed on the hardware.
Although 8 megabytes of RAM is not that much for NS (perhaps for Unix in
general), there are some huge performance problems in OmniWeb 2. The cache
system and unconfigurable thread limit pose serious problems for regular OW2
use. I get the feeling the text object is being abused in many NS apps too.
> To load up a simple page of text (5 lines, all the proper HTML tags,
> no tables or graphics) with OmniWeb 2 takes anywhere from 4 to 11(!!)
> minutes.
Much of this time might be spent paging other data to virtual memory to
clear space for OW2 (adding more system RAM will postpone paging). But I've
noticed that pages with lots of links take a really long time to completely
load and image in OmniWeb 2 on what should be an adequate system.
> To load the exact same page with lynx running on the same machine
> takes about 3 seconds (from the time I hit return after entering the
> URL to the time it is fully displayed).
>
> What on earth could possibly cause OmniWeb 2 to take so terribly long?
> Most of that time the modem is sitting idle, and OmniWeb is displaying
> "SGMLtoRTF: Running". Is this the bottleneck?
I've tried using OmniWeb 2 with ample memory (24MB RAM + 100MB virtual
memory) and it seems these conversions are a big bottleneck. Bookmark lists
made entirely within the app take an unreasonably long time to load and
save. In some cases, these conversion processes cause the app to quickly
reach the thread limit. If I try to quit the app (which saves the main
bookmark panel according to my prefs), the app sits in (what looks like) an
endless loop because the thread limit has been reached by stalled threads
(which prevents the save-bookmark thread from running and, in turn, keeps
the app from quitting).
Periodic bookmark updating compounds the problem if I auto-update a URL that
OW2 can't resolve quickly; in this case, the build up happens quickly and
I'm forced to kill the app losing any changes or saves I wanted to make.
> I sure hope that lynx gets tables support soon, because as it sits,
> OmniWeb is completely unuseable on this machine.
From what I read of other people's experience, it's not unusual to find this
app too slow to be useful. It seems like a lot of people find other
browsers faster with lesser hardware setups (like Netscape on Windows with
less than 24MB RAM).
--
Due to local news server and feed problems, I might not see all followups.
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From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: DPS: NeXT->SUN (or other un*x)
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <Ds6A4L.4FD@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:09:56 GMT
References: <4ohe74$sj1@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4ohe74$sj1@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>,
Rainer Frohnhvfer <rainer@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:
>
> Ups, probably a tough one:
>
> Solaris 2.x includes Display Postscript
> As far as I know, Digital Unix (former OSF/1) does, too (Ultrix did)
> HP-UX?
>
> And NeXTSTEP relies on DPS.
>
> Wouldn't it be possible to get the Workspace displayed on a Sun?
> You'd need to modify the login program, but is it that much of a hassle?
>
It's harder than this, as NeXT's DPS has many extensions that are not
supported by other DPS engines. A shame, but...
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: elitman@viaduct.com (Eric Litman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Best net phone for NeXTSTEP
Date: 29 May 1996 17:26:16 GMT
Organization: Viaduct, Inc.
Message-ID: <4oi1bp$4bn@news2.dn.net>
Browsing through the archives, I've run across a couple of older apps
which support voice over IP, but none that currently support real-time
voice on Intel hardware.
I remember Robert King (App Foundation) wrote a small app to do this a
few years back. Anyone know if it still exists, or if there are any
other "net phone" apps that run on Intel hardware?
</eal>
--
Eric A. Litman, CEO, Viaduct, Inc. http://www.viaduct.com/
Internet security and commerce consulting. PCS: (301) 254-0200
From: HC2500@chollian.dacom.co.kr (õ NEWS GROUP ̿)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: tcsh newline problems
Date: 29 May 1996 17:27:59 GMT
Organization: DACOM Internet
Message-ID: <4oi1ev$et7@nis.dacom.co.kr>
References: <Ds1A99.3wt@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote:
: Hi.
: I'm using the tcsh from Peanuts ($version is tcsh 6.06.00 (Cornell)
: 1995-05-13 (m68k-next-mach) options 8b,nls,dl,al,rh) and I've noticed that,
: even though Terminal.app's preferences are set to wrap lines, long lines
: printed by programs executed by the shell do not wrap--characters just pile up
: at the end of a line.
: Is there a simple cure for this?
: --
: David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
: Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
: University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
: Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: drmac19@mail.idt.net (Dylan Blankenship)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTstation For sale
Date: 29 May 1996 19:14:30 GMT
Organization: ViViD
Message-ID: <drmac19-0805961521510001@pmdyn73.vivid.net>
Here we go!!!!!!!!!
--------------------------------------------------------------
|NeXT Color Workstation =) |
|-----------------------------|
|megabytes of RAM |***32
|megabyte hard disk |***420
|monitor size(inches) |17"
|monitor(b&w or color) |color
|Sound box |yes
|printer |laser
|Keyboard |Full NeXT black keys in good condition
|mouse |Black NeXT
|Case |Black Slab NeXT pizza box
|Disk Drive |1.44 DDHD 3.5"
|OS |NextSTEP 3.0
----------------------------------------------------------------
This configuration is for a NeXT color Workstation . I'm willing to trade
for a macintosh powerbook or make an offer.
******TRADE OR FOR SALE**********
_/\/\/\/-Visit Static Realm-/\/\/\/\/_
--
drmac19@mail.idt.net
_/\/\/-Static_Realm_/\/\/\-
From: Charles F Waltrip <waltrip@zephyr.jhuapl.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Speaking English dictionary and grammar checker for NS
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 14:57:41 -0400
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab
Message-ID: <31AC9E25.167E@zephyr.jhuapl.edu>
References: <4nkt8p$pr1@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <Ds3LK3.1HK@papageno.rim.or.jp> <4oe8b3$3uk@agate.berkeley.edu>
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Paul Robert Brown wrote:
>
> In article <Ds3LK3.1HK@papageno.rim.or.jp>,
> Hiroshi TOMARU <hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp> wrote:
> >By "a speaking dictionary" I mean a dictionary software that
> >contains high-quality recordings of words and phrases
> >pronounced by professional native speakers. I intend to use it
> >to learn oral English more effectively as a second language.
>
> Tomarusan-
>
> Native English is a red herring. (Professional english speakers are
> probably out of work hand models... [sic]) Save your money.
>
> To learn oral English, you will need an idiomatic knowledge of English > and a knowledge of the slang for the given dialect of English you'd
> like to know. Australians, people from different regions of the US,
> Irish, Scottish, and various flavors of English all have widely
> varying slang and idiomatic expressions. On a trip to Korea, I found
> that I could confuse my (very gracious) hosts by using a bad Scottish
> accent. A fellow
> conference-goer from Leister might as well have spoken Attic Greek;
> his bad American accent wasn't good enough...
>
> Oral proficiency with a language is obtained only through conversation > (at least in my experience), so you should find someone (preferably a > native of whichever English-speaking country you hope to engage in
> commerce) and practice, practice, practice. I don't know how you
> perceive your lanaguage, but I can tell you that most English speakers
> "feel" their language as opposed to "know"; a "feel" for a language is
> what facilitates smooth conversation and communication.
I'm no expert but agree that practice in conversation is the best way to
learn to speak a new language. However, as you imply, it is important
with whom you practice. A good speaker of "standard" English will be
understood by most English speakers. There are many flavors of English
that most of the rest of the English speakers WON'T understand. To make
yourself understood, speak standard English. As for understanding the
rest, well, you're in the same boat as native English speakers.
This is the case with any living language.
So, while Hiroshi's request for a talking dictionary that will provide
him with standard English pronunciation of words isn't a replacement for
conversation, it would probably be a nice supplement. Unfortunately, I
don't know of one 8^{
In any event, I wish him well in his pursuit.
____________
Charles F. Waltrip
Opinions expressed are my own.
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
email: waltrip@zephyr.jhuapl.edu
phone: (410) 792-6596
fax: (410) 792-5597
From: kc@criamon (Ken Case)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
Date: 29 May 1996 20:04:28 GMT
Organization: Omni Development, Inc.
Message-ID: <4oiakc$7g7@gaea.titan.org>
References: <4oa9dn$4c@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <4of2tv$gji@www.mci.com> <4of9cc$58b@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>
ROB PARKHILL (rparkhil@bnr.ca) wrote:
> While I agree that I desperately need more RAM, [...]
Last week, memory was the cheapest it had ever been (32MB SIMMs were
available for under $300). Take advantage of the price while it
lasts!
> I'll admit that the only way to fix this problem is going to be by
> adding more RAM to my system, but it's a web-browser for heavens
> sake. It shouldn't be hogging those kinds of resources...
Perhaps it would help if you thought of the web browser as an database
client which hits a nearly-infinite-and-perpetually-growing database,
usually loading a new unique page each time the user does anything
(although if returning to an old page they expect it to be displayed
nearly instantly), and capable of doing quite complicated page layout
involving many different types of documents (including images from a
wide variety of image formats).
It must support many different server protocols--including several
different ways of dynamically updating the content--and able to pass
anything it doesn't handle on to other applications.
It must support a bunch of different mechanisms for letting the user
pass information back to the server, being completely programmable
with buttons, text fields, clickable image maps, and so on--and still
be able to continue in the face of programming errors.
It should handle irregular (and often downright bad) input generated
by hand by humans, not just good documents generated by programs.
(Imagine if Microsoft Word let you give it an input file with random
control sequences reedited by humans to no longer be in the correct
form, and still usually displayed what was intended!)
Also, it should be capable of doing all these things at once in
multiple threads, since the user wants to be able to continue doing
work while the various tasks are communicating with servers, parsing
html, rendering images, laying out tables, etc.
A web browser is really about 9 programs rolled into one (I haven't
even mentioned the bookmarking and search and editing tools yet, and
I'm probably forgetting another dozen pieces). We're working on
making our web browser faster, but it shouldn't be at all surprising
that it uses more memory than applications which typically manipulate
one (or maybe even a few!) documents at a time--as opposed to
processing several documents simultaneously (remember, every inline
image is a separate server document) and moving on to load several new
ones each time a link is followed.
--
Ken Case
Omni Development, Inc.
From: geoffrey <scooter@mail.eden.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: loading NeXTStep 3.3 on a Dell Dimensions
Date: 29 May 1996 20:26:15 GMT
Organization: Adhesive Media, Inc.
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i am trying to load NeXTStep 3.3 on a Dell with no luck.
here's the deal:
i can get Next to see the hard drive, but i can't see the CD to run
install.
the setup is:
Dell Dimensions XPS P133c (Pentium)
TEAC CD-56E
Quantum Fireball 1080A
i used rawrite to build a driver disk with the 1923 beta ide drivers,
which allowed me to load the driver to see the quantum hard drive.
However, i can't get the beta drivers in 1977 to build a useable Next
disk. i've tried 8 times with three different PCs, and three different
boxes of factory fresh media, but i get the same message:
bad superblock error 2
is the 1977 package potentially corrupted?
any suggestions on how to get this system up and running Next?
thanks, mail me any suggestions, or post back here. mail would be quicker
though.
scooter@mail.eden.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
From: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Why NeXT?
Message-ID: <Ds6IuL.LLv@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: news@nidat.sub.org
Cc: reichman@usc.edu
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4norkd$97v@digifix.digifix.com> <Pine.ULT.3.91.960524163016.12494A-100000@cello13.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU>
<DryK56.G0B@nidat.sub.org> <4o7i1i$7ku@usc.edu>
Distribution: inet
Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 18:18:18 GMT
In <4o7i1i$7ku@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote:
> In <DryK56.G0B@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki wrote:
> > As a summary: NEXTSTEPpers are bored by the request to talk someboy into
it
> > since they can't understand why people don't just come and see. Or let
it
> > put me that way: it's the same as with oysters. If you don't like'em
half a
> > dozen is too much, and if you like'em half a dozen is not enough.
>
> You are definitely a riot, Peter! 8-)
>
>
Ok, ok. I plead guilty of not always applying the amount humble forbearance
I've learned to devote towards c.s.n.a postings for postings outside said
newsgroup ;-)
But I must insist that I was not geniunely out for a flame war. Sometimes I
just can't stand NEXTSTEP being mentioned with Microshit in one breath. >:-|
But yes, I know this won't help with my karma :-P
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Strange behavior with PPP 0.4.6 and PopOver 1.4
Date: 29 May 1996 19:35:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
Sender: root@primenet.com
Message-ID: <4oj1gl$rf6@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <4ogkvp$7d5@blackice.winternet.com>
markm@subzero.winternet.com (Mark Miller) wrote:
>
>Recently, my color NeXTstation seems to behave rather strangely with
>PPP 0.4.6 and PopOver 1.4.
>
>After starting PPP with the "pppup" script, it appears that PopOver
>is being restarting a few times which never seemed to happen before.
[snip]
Mine did as well back in February, I still have not come up with a solution
An Intel machine "broke" about the some time my Moto system did, and
it remained "broke" until this weekend, when I ditched the scripts,
Gatekeeper.app, and put in Simple Internet Starter.
>--
>Mark Miller | "The things that pass for knowledge I just
>markm@winternet.com | can't understand." - Steely Dan
--
Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS
Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
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From: jlemon@netcom.com (Jonathan Lemon)
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
Message-ID: <jlemonDs74AA.8BG@netcom.com>
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
References: <4oa9dn$4c@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <slrn4qoplm.r61.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 02:01:22 GMT
Sender: jlemon@netcom22.netcom.com
In article <slrn4qoplm.r61.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>,
J.B. Nicholson-Owens <jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com> wrote:
>On 26 May 1996 18:54:47 GMT, ROB PARKHILL <rparkhil@bnr.ca> wrote:
>> I'm running OmniWeb 2.0.1 right now, but I am trying to figure
>> out why it is so painfully slow. I'm running it on an 040 'station
>> with only 8Meg RAM right now, but the kind of performance I'm seeing
>> just can not be blamed on the hardware.
>
>> What on earth could possibly cause OmniWeb 2 to take so terribly long?
>> Most of that time the modem is sitting idle, and OmniWeb is displaying
>> "SGMLtoRTF: Running". Is this the bottleneck?
>
>I've tried using OmniWeb 2 with ample memory (24MB RAM + 100MB virtual
>memory) and it seems these conversions are a big bottleneck. Bookmark lists
>made entirely within the app take an unreasonably long time to load and
>save. In some cases, these conversion processes cause the app to quickly
>reach the thread limit. If I try to quit the app (which saves the main
>bookmark panel according to my prefs), the app sits in (what looks like) an
>endless loop because the thread limit has been reached by stalled threads
>(which prevents the save-bookmark thread from running and, in turn, keeps
>the app from quitting).
>
>From what I read of other people's experience, it's not unusual to find this
>app too slow to be useful. It seems like a lot of people find other
>browsers faster with lesser hardware setups (like Netscape on Windows with
>less than 24MB RAM).
For a good time, go (try) to browse cisco's web site for information. Pay
particular attention to their humongous specification pages, which appear to
consist of nothing but tables.
On a 16M Intel machine, it appears to exercise your disk pretty throughly,
as well as taking 2-3 minutes just to scroll one page, if you have enough
patience to wait for it to actually load.
A 32M machine is marginally better, but still takes way too long to render.
I'm glad to hear that Omni's working on speeding up OmniWeb. May I suggest
using cisco's web site as an acid test for table speed? (It's one of the
ugliest use of HTML I've seen, notwithstanding their "Web award".)
--
Jonathan
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 08:00:13 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996May30.080013.22281@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <slrn4qoplm.r61.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
In article <slrn4qoplm.r61.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> > To load up a simple page of text (5 lines, all the proper HTML tags,
> > no tables or graphics) with OmniWeb 2 takes anywhere from 4 to 11(!!)
> > minutes.
>
> Much of this time might be spent paging other data to virtual memory to
> clear space for OW2 (adding more system RAM will postpone paging). But
I've
> noticed that pages with lots of links take a really long time to
completely
> load and image in OmniWeb 2 on what should be an adequate system.
I'll agree that OmniWeb is relatively slow, although I don't think it is
unusable. It is slower than Netscape on the same hardware (under
Windows), but faster than Internet Explorer under Windows 95.
> I've tried using OmniWeb 2 with ample memory (24MB RAM + 100MB virtual
> memory)
:-)
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail)
http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Prolog
Date: 30 May 1996 08:10:24 GMT
Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany)
Message-ID: <4ojl5g$1us@isabella.object-factory.com>
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mandel@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Luis Mandel) wrote:
>Hi!
>I am looking for a prolog interpreter running as an NextStep application.
>Is there anyone?
You might want to a have look at SWI Prolog. It is fast, has decent
documentation, allows dynamically loadable/foreign predicates and is *free*.
Ive forgotten the URL but theres a lot of information about it one the
web--just use on of the search engines.
erik
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From: Philipp Ott <philipp@cybertron.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Mux 1.7 and Digi Boards...
Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 12:54:31 +0100
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960530124937.1069A-100000@cybert1.cybertron.at>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Hi!
Is the Mux 1.7 driver at next-ftp.peak.org the latest release and does
anybody have first-hand experience, how it works together with a Digi
Board with 8 serial connectors?
mfg Philipp Ott
From: Edgar Knobloch <edgar@wildpark.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Fax Poll Server f. Next
Date: 30 May 1996 14:22:24 GMT
Organization: Unlimited Surprise Systems, Berlin
Message-ID: <01bb4e33.69de5e20$314140c2@edgar.wildpark.com>
Hallo,
is there a program available, which works as a fax poll server?
It should serve a faxmodem, where clients can call and request a fax (one
of many).
Thanks for any hint.
Edgar Knobloch
From: indy@beckman.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: image-only tiffs (WetPaint?)
Date: 30 May 1996 14:40:56 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Message-ID: <4okc1o$18b@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
References: <4oivrk$jvr@jake.esu.edu>
Beth Katz (katz@cs.millersv.edu) wrote:
: I'm messing around with some clip art and would like to have just
: the image (a horse, for example) with the surrounding white background
: transparent. The art is stored as tiffs. Of the tools I have,
: WetPaint seems to get me closest to what I want. But it doesn't get
: me all the way there. Perhaps this is a bug in WetPaint (version 1.7).
: Maybe someone can suggest a better way.
Here's an easier way:
Use the Magic Wand setting in the Marquee inspector (the icon looks like
a hand holding a wand next to a top hat). Click anywhere in the back-
ground region. Once selected, press Delete or Backspace.
WetPaint's default color for alpha representation, btw, is white; use
Info -> Preferences to change the alpha representation to something else.
You may have actually already dne what you wanted and can't see it!
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From: jhills@unix.infoserve.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installation sans floppy
Date: 30 May 1996 15:05:39 GMT
Message-ID: <4okdg3$7d7@news.infoserve.net>
Greetings
I have a 68040 cube, with no floppy. I recently installed a Jaz drive. I have
some software on floppy which I want to re-install (Improv, Sybase and
Frame). I've copied the floppies onto a Jaz disk using a friends NextStation,
but can't get the installation process to work from the Jaz drive. I've tried
various combinations of uncopmress, cat and untar on the files on the disks
but each time I get an error of some sort like Not in compressed format or
checksum error. There must be a FAQ out there somewhere. Suggestions?
Thanks
jhills@unix.infoserve.net
From: katz@cs.millersv.edu (Beth Katz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: image-only tiffs (WetPaint?)
Date: 30 May 1996 02:06:44 GMT
Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania
Message-ID: <4oivrk$jvr@jake.esu.edu>
I'm messing around with some clip art and would like to have just
the image (a horse, for example) with the surrounding white background
transparent. The art is stored as tiffs. Of the tools I have,
WetPaint seems to get me closest to what I want. But it doesn't get
me all the way there. Perhaps this is a bug in WetPaint (version 1.7).
Maybe someone can suggest a better way.
Here's what I do:
- drag and drop tiff in a layout (2-bit gray with alpha)
- select the entire image and background with regular marquee
- use the color correction filter to turn all white to transparent
source of brightness 100 opacity 100
destination of brightness 100 opacity 0
tolerance 0
make sure alpha box at bottom is checked
- check that all white (including any white inside desired image)
is transparent using ESC key
- select the desired image with the freehand select (lasso)
- use color correction filter to turn all transparent to white
source of brightness 100 opacity 0
destination of brightness 100 opacity 100
tolerance of 0
Unfortunately, while the freehand lasso does select just the image
part for copying and pasting (even though a rectangle of "marching
ants" is shown on the screen), the color correction filter uses
the rectangle. So I get back to where I started.
I'll send a note to LightHouse about this. Does anyone have any
hints about getting it to work? Other readily accessible tools
to use? I'm not going to buy more software for this. I haven't tried
Create. Maybe I need to pull out the demo disk.
Thanks for your help.
Beth Katz
katz@cs.millersv.edu
From: robbie@hermes.dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: looking for emacs (BLACK)
Date: 29 May 1996 17:33:14 -0400
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine
Message-ID: <4oifqq$ee2@zeus.dciem.dnd.ca>
Is there a NS (BLAC) version of emacs? If so,
where can I get it. Thanks.
rob
e-mail: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <ocs@ms.mff.cuni.cz>
Message-ID: <199605300413.AA03539@msdec.ms.mff.cuni.cz>
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From: Ondra Cada <ocs@ms.mff.cuni.cz>
Date: Thu, 30 May 96 06:03:30 +0100
Subject: new PSION link
Organization: OCSoftware
Well, so I've just started working on the new version of the S3Link
(I've looked at the TCP/IP beta - it is nice, but I dare say the
Link protocol is the better solution so far).
Send me please your suggestions which features should I implement
(by e-mail - I am temporary unable to read the news).
---
Ondra Cada
ocs@ms.mff.cuni.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK
From: ossip@techno.net (Ossip Kaehr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: scale jpgs?
Date: 30 May 1996 16:58:44 GMT
Organization: Unlimited Surprise Systems, Berlin
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4okk44$g2v@unlisys.unlisys.net>
hi
I have to scale a bunch of .jpg's ... is there a (unix) tool
to do that, batched?
same for .gif's
thanks for help... (per mail please! ossip@techno.net )
ossip
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEED HELP QUICKLY: PPP setup
Date: 30 May 1996 17:01:48 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4okk9s$14b6@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <MAGNAN.96May28190325@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA>
Magnan Francois (magnan@maths1.MATHCN.UMontreal.CA) wrote:
: I am trying to install PPP on an INTEL based machine.
: I followed all the instructions including the HostaManager.app
: instructions (that tell to use local netinfo only).
: However, sendmail and other programs don't work
: because of some netinfo timeouts. It seems that the
: machine can't read it's own netinfo local database.
: What did I do wrong. I installed PPP on three NeXT Cubes and
: I never saw this before.
This really belongs in the PPP documentation! What happens is
that PPP can't route back to localhost, and every netinfo query
will hang your machine. The fix is to dynamically add a route
to 127.0.0.1 in a script /etc/ppp/ip_up (not 100% sure about the
name though).
I think I found the info on the PPP FAQ website. It's at
http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/NeXT_PPP_FAQ.html
Finally, I've been told that installing the 3.3 patch stops
netinfo from hanging your machine, but I haven't made tests yet.
Hope this helps!
Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.."
// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
// +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: eidolon@sn.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Strange behavior with PPP 0.4.6 and PopOver 1.4
Date: 30 May 1996 21:55:53 GMT
Organization: SN Internett
Message-ID: <4ol5h9$qc9@hasle.sn.no>
References: <4ogkvp$7d5@blackice.winternet.com> <4oj1gl$rf6@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
Cc: rworne@primenet.com
For what its worth. I had similar and other problems with 1.4 version of
PopOver. I installed the 1.5 version and the problems went on vacation....
Cant explain why....
-oc
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: image-only tiffs (WetPaint?)
Date: 31 May 1996 12:49:51 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Message-ID: <4omptf$g4v@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <4oivrk$jvr@jake.esu.edu>
Beth Katz (katz@cs.millersv.edu) wrote:
> I'm messing around with some clip art and would like to have just
> the image (a horse, for example) with the surrounding white background
> transparent. The art is stored as tiffs. Of the tools I have,
> WetPaint seems to get me closest to what I want. But it doesn't get
> me all the way there. Perhaps this is a bug in WetPaint (version 1.7).
> Maybe someone can suggest a better way.
> Here's what I do:
(Lengthy description deleted for brevity)
Uhm.. unless I'm getting something wrong, all you want to do is
make the surrounding background transparent, right? What I usually
do is simply open the tiff in IconBuilder, and floodfill with
a 100% transparent color. You must first toggle the "overlay" mode
though.
Quick and simple.
Hope this helps,
Chris
PS: Can anybody help me configure my ATI mach 64 to use 1100 something
times 800 something resolution? Please? I'm stuck..
--
// Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.."
// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
// +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Fax Poll Server f. Next
Date: 30 May 1996 19:34:51 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4okt8r$24j@turbocat.snafu.de>
References: <01bb4e33.69de5e20$314140c2@edgar.wildpark.com>
Edgar Knobloch <edgar@wildpark.com> wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> is there a program available, which works as a fax poll server?
I believe that you can find something like that on http://www.ilink.de/.
_ _
_(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development,
(_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG,
_/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152
(______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tailor: Illustrator Keystone
Date: 31 May 1996 20:40:27 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Message-ID: <4onlfr$e1a@abel.cc.sunysb.edu>
Has anyone out used the Adobe Illustrator (AI) export feature of Tailor
Publishing 2.0d?
I want to know whether in fact Tailor produces files that import smoothly
in vector format into Corel Draw (for PC), Adobe Illustrator (for Mac),
etc.
The AI export feature is not bundled with the Office version of Tailor,
and can only be gotten by upgrading to the full Publishing version of the
app.
Any experience you've had would be very useful to me.
Thanks,
Richard Larson
Dept. of Linguistics
SUNY - Stony Brook
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu (Hiro Yoshida)
Subject: [Q] How to display/print an NS PostScript file on a Mac?
Message-ID: <DsBs5x.991@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:27:32 GMT
To NeXTStep and Mac Users:
Could anyone know how to display and print a NeXT's PostScript file on a
Machintosh?
More precisely, I have a bunch of flies made by Concurrence2, which is a
slide making program. Because I cannot directly print the Concurrence2 files
to the slide maker (Montage) in our lab, I am trying to save all the pages,
copy them to a Machintosh connected to the slide maker, and print them out on
a film. However, I cannot display nor print the NS PS files by either
PhotoShop 2.5 or GraphicsConverter. Actually, when I tried to read in the NS
PS files by these applications, they said: Unknown format or incompatible
format. ( I send the NS PS files by ASCII and Binary using Fetch, but both
failed.) I am sticking on the PS format because of its high quality; if I
use TIFF, yes I can make slides, but the quality of fonts are bad,
unfortunately...
If anyone succeed to convert/read/print NS PS files on a Mac, please let me
know. I would appreciate it if you would e-mail me your message when you
post a reply, so that I do not miss it.
____________________________________________________________
Hiro Yoshida, Ph.D.
Research Assistant Professor
Kurt Rossmann Laboratories
Department of Radiology, The University of Chicago, MC2026
5841 South Maryland Avenue, Chicago Illinois 60637
Phone: 312-702-1350, FAX 312-702-0371
yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu
,,, If the only tool you have is a hammer,
(* o) then you tend to see everything as a nail.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: DiskQuota
Message-ID: <DsBnK0.Ds4@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: news@nidat.sub.org
Cc: wongj@alum01.its.rpi.edu
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4oguo3$cns@usenet.rpi.edu>
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 12:47:59 GMT
In <4oguo3$cns@usenet.rpi.edu> Jasper Y. Wong wrote:
> Does NS3.3 allow for quota control? Can I edit /etc/fstab and
> remove [,noquota] to make the filesystem quota-ready? I don't
> seem to be able to find the standard quota utils anywhere on
> the system, can I just grab some BSD equivalents and have
> them recompiled?
>
NeXTAnswers #1166
And there is a rather old Motolrola binary and source on Peanuts.
--
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Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,gnu.emacs.gnus
From: markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de>
Subject: gnus-5.2.4 and Emacs 4.12 for NEXTSTEP
Message-ID: <7xhgsvh8em.fsf@burrow.muc.de>
Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de
Organization: caring for little Tigers
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 15:05:21 GMT
Somebody got the combination as mentioned in the subject line running
(even byte-compiled)? Or is Emacs 4.12 (19.28.1)for NEXTSTEP too far
from regular 19.30 (I thought some 30isms were included)?
Thanks for any clues,
markus g
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From: john@localhost.nextdoor.com (John McCracken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: fax-on-demand for NS 3.3
Date: 1 Jun 1996 05:57:01 GMT
Organization: Best Internet Communications
Message-ID: <4oom3d$8di@nntp1.best.com>
References: <4o6t3h$hqh@risc.agsm.ucla.edu>
Cc: hketola@agsm.ucla.edu
In <4o6t3h$hqh@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> Heikki Ketola wrote:
>
> Are there any fax-on-demand programs available for NS 3.3?
>
Try NXFax from Black and White Software. Beautiful product.
--
John McCracken White Computers
john@nextdoor.com Can't Jump
NeXTMail welcome
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From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: image-only tiffs (WetPaint?)
Date: 1 Jun 1996 03:57:30 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <4oof3a$mbv@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
References: <4oivrk$jvr@jake.esu.edu> <4okc1o$18b@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4okc1o$18b@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
On 05/30/96, Steve Weintz wrote:
>Here's an easier way:
>
>Use the Magic Wand ...
What I do is I use the paint bucket and set its mode to "CLEAR"
This way I fill-in areas of varying color with "transparency"
gradually.
--
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Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
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From: case@commonlink.com (Ryan-Emory Lundberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Microkernal, PPC Question
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1996 03:32:16 -0500
Organization: The Gravity Well / Common Link ISP
Message-ID: <case-0106960332160001@wintermute.commonlink.com>
Greetings,
I'm coming into this without much prior knowledge to the group, or the
product, so bear with me. : )
I'm used NeXT Step once and liked it, I thought it was cool. I was
thinking back to what little I knew and that the FAQ was kinda unclear
about in some ways. Is NeXT Step based on the Mach3 Microkernal? (At
least the original black version, not the Intel?)
And if it is, could I not run NeXT Step on my PowerMac under the Mach3 MK?
Is this completely nuts or right on?
Sincerely,
Ryan
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] How to display/print an NS PostScript file on a Mac?
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 10:04:20 -0400
Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc.
Message-ID: <jbf-0206961004200001@frazer.com>
References: <DsBs5x.991@midway.uchicago.edu>
In article <DsBs5x.991@midway.uchicago.edu>, yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu (Hiro Yoshida) wrote:
> Could anyone know how to display and print a NeXT's PostScript file on a
> Machintosh?
I don't know of any "free" (ot commercial) tool for viewing PS on a Mac.
There probably is one but ... As for downloading, there are several tools
for downloading the file - for example, the HP Utility supplied with the
4MP, or "LaserStatus" from the archives. If the Mac is on ethernet with the
NeXT, you can use lpDaemon from the archives to create a Unix style print
server and just send the file over from the NeXT print panel. There's a
NeXT Answer on this, and it's also discussed in the SysAdmin manual (I
think). Works for me!
Barney
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: scale jpgs?
Date: 2 Jun 1996 18:31:12 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4osmlg$77e@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <4okk44$g2v@unlisys.unlisys.net>
Ossip Kaehr (ossip@techno.net) wrote:
: I have to scale a bunch of .jpg's ... is there a (unix) tool
: to do that, batched?
: same for .gif's
The "standard" djpeg and cjpeg programs can create .ppm's which
you can scale then using the netpbm tools. For the .gif's the only
thing you will need is the pbmplus/netpbm toolset. So the whole
thing can be done with a few piped commands.
Willem
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] How to display/print an NS PostScript file on a Mac?
Date: 2 Jun 1996 18:22:07 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4osm4f$los@news4.digex.net>
References: <DsBs5x.991@midway.uchicago.edu> <jbf-0206961004200001@frazer.com>
jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) wrote:
> In article <DsBs5x.991@midway.uchicago.edu>,
yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu (Hiro Yoshida) wrote:
> > Could anyone know how to display and print a NeXT's PostScript file on
a
> > Machintosh?
> I don't know of any "free" (ot commercial) tool for viewing PS on a Mac.
There probably is one but ... As for downloading, there are several tools
for downloading the file - for example, the HP Utility supplied with the
Tailor will now let you view any postscript file on the Macintosh, as it
will on a NEXTSTEP system. I think the printing part is in the bag as well
:)
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Balling does not work on ADB
Date: 2 Jun 1996 18:23:25 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4osm6t$dv@turbocat.snafu.de>
Hi!
My wife likes to play Balling. It works fine on NS 3.3 Intel, Black (Non-ADB)
but not on our new ADB NeXTstation.
(You cannot move the balls. Space works)
Is there an updated version available?
_ _
_(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development,
(_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG,
_/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152
(______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Balling does not work on ADB
Date: 2 Jun 1996 22:08:46 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <4ot3de$26u@news.iastate.edu>
References: <4osm6t$dv@turbocat.snafu.de>
In article <4osm6t$dv@turbocat.snafu.de> dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David
Wetzel) writes:
> Hi!
>
> My wife likes to play Balling. It works fine on NS 3.3 Intel, Black
(Non-ADB)
> but not on our new ADB NeXTstation.
I have the same problem... The arrow keys of the ADB keyboard do not seem
to be recognized by the Balling application.
--
Rod Ragner, UNIX Systems Administrator/NEXTSTEP Application Developer
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine,
Iowa State University, 2630 Vet. Med. Bldg., Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-6961 or 3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
From: don@misckit.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Balling does not work on ADB
Date: 3 Jun 1996 00:44:02 GMT
Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <4otcgi$4tb@news.xmission.com>
References: <4osm6t$dv@turbocat.snafu.de> <4ot3de$26u@news.iastate.edu>
rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner) wrote:
> In article <4osm6t$dv@turbocat.snafu.de> dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David
> Wetzel) writes:
> > My wife likes to play Balling. It works fine on NS 3.3 Intel, Black
> (Non-ADB)
> > but not on our new ADB NeXTstation.
>
> I have the same problem... The arrow keys of the ADB keyboard do not seem
> to be recognized by the Balling application.
That means that the author used the raw key codes instead of
checking against the proper charset/character combination like
they should have. The raw codes are device dependent, the other
is not. (That's why PacMan should work anywhere... :-) )
Anyone with access to the source code could fix it in five minutes
or less... but source code isn't available, to my knowledge.
It is an easily remedied bug in the program. Nothing is wrong with
your ADB hardware.
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com
<a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: gs for next/i386?
Date: 2 Jun 1996 20:38:14 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Message-ID: <4osu3m$35h@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
Hello,
Is there a gs "ghostscript" for NeXT/i386 compiled. I need it
to use on my Canon printer for printing.
--kai--
--
email: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
url: http://web.cs.mun.ca/~kwong/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg)
Subject: Re: [Q] How to display/print an NS PostScript file on a Mac?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Message-ID: <960602210758.189AAFcO.magnus@koa>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services
References: <DsBs5x.991@midway.uchicago.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 02:07:58 GMT
>From: yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu (Hiro Yoshida)>Subject: [Q] How to display/print an NS PostScript file on a Mac?
>Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:27:32 GMT
>
>To NeXTStep and Mac Users:
>
>Could anyone know how to display and print a NeXT's PostScript file on a
>Machintosh?
Print: Easy. Just get DropPS or SendPS or something like that from a Mac
archive. These programs are simply "lpr" for MacOS.
Display: Hard. You cannot display PostScript files without a
DisplayPostScript engine of some kind. Not part of MacOS. One way is to
get Tailor which allows you to save EPS files with various Mac-readable
attachments.
From: erbalch@adnc.com (Eric R. Balch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Accessing the Parallel Port (QuickCam Software Development)
Date: 3 Jun 1996 02:30:53 GMT
Organization: adnc.com
Message-ID: <4otiot$gev@taurus.adnc.com>
Hi there...
I have a few questions for anyone who wants to take a shot at em:
First of all I should mention that I am in the early stages of trying to
develop some software to use the Connectix(C) QuickCam(TM) under NSFIP...
Basicly the idea is to port the portable QuickCam(TM) interface that already
runs on several other platforms and give is a slick NS interface.
By the way, if anyone knows the I am duplicating something that has already
been done, please let me know where I can pick up a copy ;)
The cam hooks up through the parallel port so what I am looking for is some
detailed information on sending data to and receiving data from the port in
the NS environment.
NeXT states in their documentation that the parallel port driver under NSFIP
3.2 does not support "bidirectional" operation. I am not sure exactly what
they mean here, maybe someone could elaborate. Also, I don't know if this is
still the case under 3.3.
Any information on or Help in this endeavor would be greatly appreciated! I
plan to release the resulting driver, application(s), tech info, source code,
etc. as freeware.
Thankx,
Eric R. Balch
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 3 Jun 1996 04:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4otose$9p@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
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Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
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e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
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stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
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Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
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Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
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Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
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This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
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Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
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NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
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Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
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To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
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You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
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identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available
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If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support
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server at URL http://www.next.com.
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To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
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To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
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Additions from:
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Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: Tony.Curtis@vcpc.univie.ac.at (Tony Curtis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: problem installing CUBX software
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 03 Jun 1996 15:36:07 +0200
Organization: European Centre for Parallel computing, Vienna, Austria
Sender: tc@aloisius.vcpc.univie.ac.at
Message-ID: <7xennx2ens.fsf@aloisius.vcpc.univie.ac.at>
Hi, I've been trying to install the CUBX X11 software on a
NEXT machine but with no luck. Intuisys gave a few pointers
such as not mounting the CD via NFS, but I've tried just
about everything and got nowhere.
The problem is this: after entering the serial and license,
I'm supposed to click on "install" to start the
installation.
But when I click there, the entire installer application
just exits immediately.
Anyone know what's going on?
thanks in advance
tony
--
Tony Curtis, Systems Manager, European Centre for Parallel
Computing, Vienna
http://www.vcpc.univie.ac.at/%7Etc/
From: bgomes@neptune.univ-lr.fr (Bruno Gomes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Trouble with gettytab configuration
Date: 3 Jun 1996 16:03:40 GMT
Organization: Universite de La Rochelle
Message-ID: <4ov2cs$4t9@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hello,
I try to connect a Next station and a PC, using the Next system, on
dialin. But when Im connecting to the remote device, the stream format isnt
good.
I think, its a gettytab file configuration problem. I had the same
problem with an hp station using Next system. Trouble was resolved by
gettytab file modification.
Anybody knows gettytab configuration for Next station and PC using
NextStep ?
Thanks for help.
--
Bruno Gomes E-mail : bgomes@cri.univ-lr.fr
Universite de La Rochelle Tel : 46-45-82-14
Centre de Ressources Informatiques Fax : 46-45-82-45
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: scale jpgs?
Date: 3 Jun 1996 16:34:58 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ov47i$jh5@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
References: <4okk44$g2v@unlisys.unlisys.net>
In article <4okk44$g2v@unlisys.unlisys.net> ossip@techno.net (Ossip Kaehr)
writes:
|hi
|
|I have to scale a bunch of .jpg's ... is there a (unix) tool
|to do that, batched?
|
|same for .gif's
|
Check out http://www.acme.com/software/thumbnail_index
It does all this and more, using the pbmplus/netpbm utilities.
Here is a perl-hack for gifs:
------ gifscale.pl ---------
#!/usr/local/bin/perl
#
# Available in the PBMPLUS/Netpbm libary
$GIFTOPNM='/usr/local/netpbm/giftopnm';
$PPMTOGIF='/usr/local/netpbm/ppmtogif';
$PNMSCALE='/usr/local/netpbm/pnmscale';
$PPMQUANT='/usr/local/netpbm/ppmquant';
&read_args;
# Also in PBMPPLUS
$REDUCE_COLOR=$ENV{'PPMQUANT'} || '/usr/local/netpbm/ppmquant 256' ; #
changed from ppmquant 256
$OUTFILE = $ENV{'OUTFILE'} || $out;
# Valid choices for $COLOR_DEPTH are 1, 8 or 24.
$COLOR_DEPTH = $ENV{'COLOR_DEPTH'} || $depth || 24;
$DEBUG = $ENV{'DEBUG'} || $DEBUG || 0;
$SILENT = $ENV{'SILENT'} || $SILENT || 0;
&main;
exit;
sub read_args {
local($_);
while ($ARGV[0] =~ /^-/) {
$_ = shift @ARGV;
if (/^-h(elp)?$/) {
&usage; exit}
elsif (/^-out$/) {
$out = shift @ARGV;
}
elsif (/^-(.*)$/) {
eval "\$$1 = shift \@ARGV;" # Create and set a flag $<name>
}
}
}
sub main {
local($base, $outfile, $i, $j);
$base = &test_args;
$width = $WIDTH || 160;
$outfile = $OUTFILE || "$base.$width.gif";
open(STDERR, ">/dev/null") unless $DEBUG;
&scale("$base.gif", $outfile);
}
sub test_args {
local($file) = $ARGV[0];
if (! ($file =~ s/\.gif$//)) {
print "The name of the input file must end in '.gif'\n";
exit}
elsif (! ( -f "$file.gif")) {
print "Cannot find file $file.gif\n.";
exit}
$file;
}
sub scale {
local($in, $out) = @_;
open(STDERR, ">/dev/null") unless $DEBUG;
$scale_arg = "-width $width";
#giftopnm $1 | pnmscale -width $2 |ppmquant 16| ppmtogif > $3
print "$GIFTOPNM $in|$PNMSCALE $scale_arg|$REDUCE_COLOR |$PPMTOGIF -
> $out\n" if $DEBUG;
system("$GIFTOPNM $in|$PNMSCALE $scale_arg|$REDUCE_COLOR |$PPMTOGIF - >
$out");
print "Writing $out\n" unless $SILENT;
}
sub usage {
print "Usage: gifscale [-h(elp)] [-out <output file>] [-width width]
[-depth <color depth 1, 8 or 24>] <file>.gif\n\n";
}
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (NeXTmail
OK)
Psychology Department
York University Voice: 416 736-5118
4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:49:32 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960603154610.3786A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <4oa9dn$4c@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <4of2tv$gji@www.mci.com> <4of9cc$58b@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <Ds4nDq.oz0@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <Ds4nDq.oz0@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
On Tue, 28 May 1996, Jerry Kuch wrote:
> >I'll admit that the only way to fix this problem is going to be by
> >adding more RAM to my system, but it's a web-browser for heavens sake.
> >It shouldn't be hogging those kinds of resources...
>
> I don't know why you expect the resource requirements of a modern, heavily
> featured web browser to be so low. Netscape's no svelte piece of work on
> any of the platforms that run it either...
>
I disagree. OmniWeb 2 is definitly slower than any other Web browser I
know off. I run a 64MB Intel Box and didn't get any speed improvements
during my 32MB->64MB update (no, I didn't update because of OmniWeb :) )
It just seems as if the SGMLtoRTF converter could need some speed
improvements. Sometimes even Bookmarks loading takes quite a while and
especially frame loading is quite CPU expensive. Anyway, a single user
license is free ;)
Best regards,
Boerny
--
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny)
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/
scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: "Jon A. Lovstad" <jonal@hiof.no>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: How to access the ROM monitor with ADB keyboard?
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:56:20 +0200
Organization: UNINETT news service
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960603225217.21336A-100000@gyda>
References: <4osm6t$dv@turbocat.snafu.de> <4ot3de$26u@news.iastate.edu> <4otcgi$4tb@news.xmission.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
In-Reply-To: <4otcgi$4tb@news.xmission.com>
I have aquired one of the last slabs of NeXT hardware but can't seem to
get to the ROM monitor during bootup. On our non-ADB keyboards you press
the right command key + ~ and up it pops, but on the ADB keyboard the
left/right command keys are replaced with a command bar, thus no
left/right distinction AFAIK (it came without docs). I know you can swap
the help keys with the command bar, but it doesn't seem to work during boot.
Any solutions? Have I perhaps missed something?
Thanks,
Jon
--
The Web is exciting for two reasons. One, it's ubiquitous. Two, I don't think
Microsoft will figure out a way to own it.
- Steve Jobs
From: rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: How to access the ROM monitor with ADB keyboard?
Date: 3 Jun 1996 22:01:06 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <4ovnb2$q0c@news.iastate.edu>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960603225217.21336A-100000@gyda>
In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.960603225217.21336A-100000@gyda> "Jon A.
Lovstad" <jonal@hiof.no> writes:
> I have aquired one of the last slabs of NeXT hardware but can't seem to
> get to the ROM monitor during bootup.
I have a NeXTstation Turbo with non-ADB and a NeXTstation Turbo Color with
ADB and have not had a problem.
If you press the tilde key while holding down the command-bar after the
"Testing System" graphic disappears, then you should end up at the NeXT>
prompt, which is the ROM Monitor. If you press the sequence again, you
will be placed in the NMI Monitor. If you type "halt" in the NMI Monitor,
then you should be returned to the ROM Monitor, where you can specify new
boot settings. I have had no trouble with it (although it was a little
confusing at first).
--
Rod Ragner, UNIX Systems Administrator/NEXTSTEP Application Developer
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine,
Iowa State University, 2630 Vet. Med. Bldg., Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-4751, FAX: (515) 294-6961 or 3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
Email: rragner@stallion.vm.iastate.edu or stryder@iastate.edu
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: Accessing the Parallel Port (QuickCam Software Development)
Date: 3 Jun 1996 23:13:32 GMT
Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC.
Message-ID: <4ovris$kun@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>
References: <4otiot$gev@taurus.adnc.com>
Cc: erbalch@adnc.com
In <4otiot$gev@taurus.adnc.com> Eric R. Balch wrote:
> Hi there...
>
> I have a few questions for anyone who wants to take a shot at em:
>
> First of all I should mention that I am in the early stages of trying to
> develop some software to use the Connectix(C) QuickCam(TM) under NSFIP...
> Basicly the idea is to port the portable QuickCam(TM) interface that
already
> runs on several other platforms and give is a slick NS interface.
>
> By the way, if anyone knows the I am duplicating something that has already
> been done, please let me know where I can pick up a copy ;)
>
> The cam hooks up through the parallel port so what I am looking for is some
> detailed information on sending data to and receiving data from the port in
> the NS environment.
>
> NeXT states in their documentation that the parallel port driver under
NSFIP
> 3.2 does not support "bidirectional" operation. I am not sure exactly what
> they mean here, maybe someone could elaborate. Also, I don't know if this
is
> still the case under 3.3.
>
> Any information on or Help in this endeavor would be greatly appreciated!
I
> plan to release the resulting driver, application(s), tech info, source
code,
> etc. as freeware.
>
As far as I know both the NeXT Driver and the PD ParallelPortDriver 1.5 as
available from Peanuts support only printing (are not bidirectional). But you
can ask Christian Starkjohann <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> or
<cs@ds1.kph.tuwien.ac.at> who wrote the PD driver for help.
Bye
Frank
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: looking for emacs (BLACK)
Message-ID: <DsFx15.2H6@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: news@nidat.sub.org
Cc: marks@soli.inav.net
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4oifqq$ee2@zeus.dciem.dnd.ca> <31AE7DB7.76A2@soli.inav.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 20:03:05 GMT
In <31AE7DB7.76A2@soli.inav.net> Mark Strand wrote:
> G.Robert Arrabito wrote:
> >
> > Is there a NS (BLAC) version of emacs? If so,
> > where can I get it. Thanks.
> >
> > rob
> > e-mail: robbie@dciem.dnd.ca
>
>
> I believe both 3.2 and 3.3 have Emacs.pkg on the NeXTSTEP CD in
/NextCD/Packages.
>
Emacs_for_NeXTstep.4.1 is on Peanuts!
Newer and better version.
--
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Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: wswats@boat (William Swats)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Strange behavior with PPP 0.4.6 and PopOver 1.4
Date: 4 Jun 1996 02:58:44 GMT
Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content
Message-ID: <4p08p4$424@miwok.nbn.com>
References: <4ogkvp$7d5@blackice.winternet.com>
Cc: markm@subzero.winternet.com
In <4ogkvp$7d5@blackice.winternet.com> Mark Miller wrote:
>
> Recently, my color NeXTstation seems to behave rather strangely with
> PPP 0.4.6 and PopOver 1.4.
>
> After starting PPP with the "pppup" script, it appears that PopOver
> is being restarting a few times which never seemed to happen before.
>
> Below is a capture of the console messages:
>
> Software Version 3.3 (Lightning9I)
> PPP Reinitializing nmserver's network portion
> May 28 20:24:01 slab netmsgserver[22]: network_init
>
> PPP Reinitializing nmserver's network portion
> May 28 20:24:05 slab netmsgserver[22]: network_init
>
> I've tried to debug the problem but am stumped as to why this is
> happening. Any suggestions or comments?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
I had the same or similar problem. I think the problem for me was that my ISP
enabled VJ header compression. So the link came up and then went down so
header compression could be turn on. The link would then come back up. I
ended up by just turning off header compression on my end and everything
started working again. I put the following into the file /etc/ppp/options:
# -vj Disable negotiation of Van Jacobson style IP header
# compression (use default, i.e. no compression).
# Disabled this compression so that pppd would not
# go down right after it came up when it negociated the VJ
# compression scheme. The link would come right back up but it
# was messing other apps up so I just disabled it with this option.
-vj
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L.van Emmerik)
Subject: Informer on NS3.3 ???
Message-ID: <DsGqFG.D8F@solair1.inter.NL.net>
Sender: news@solair1.inter.NL.net (News at news)
Organization: NLnet
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 06:39:26 GMT
Has anyone succeeded in using Informer on NEXTSTEP 3.3??
I tried it on an HP-system, but didn't succeed sofar.
I have Invormer 1.1 (from peanuts) and couldn't find a newer version.
If anyone has it running on NS3.3 i am interesed in that version.
Pleace Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net
P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V.
Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo
Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands
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From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 06:59:02 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems
Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk
Message-ID: <1996Jun4.065902.12987@seer.demon.co.uk>
References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960603154610.3786A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
In article
<Pine.HPP.3.91.960603154610.3786A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.d
e> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes:
> On Tue, 28 May 1996, Jerry Kuch wrote:
> > I don't know why you expect the resource requirements of a modern,
heavily
> > featured web browser to be so low. Netscape's no svelte piece of work
on
> > any of the platforms that run it either...
> >
> I disagree. OmniWeb 2 is definitly slower than any other Web browser I
> know off. I run a 64MB Intel Box and didn't get any speed improvements
> during my 32MB->64MB update (no, I didn't update because of OmniWeb :) )
I used to think this, until I ran Microsoft's Internet Explorer 2 under
Windows 95. This was on a 32 Mb laptop on which I have NeXTSTEP 3.3
installed on another disk. I can assure you that it is slower than
OmniWeb.
Paul
--
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http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: pollak@mozart.inet.co.th (Dan Pollak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Which fax server products allow one to submit faxes from a Next Station
Date: 4 Jun 1996 08:16:22 GMT
Organization: Internet Thailand, Bangkok, Thailand.
Message-ID: <4p0rcm$3mr@senior.nectec.or.th>
We're planning on setting-up a low end fax server for our network. I'd
like to be able to submit jobs (faxes) to the server from my NeXT
Station. Anyone know how to do this, which fax server software to buy,
and all that.
Thanks in advance!
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FTP sites for procmail and socks?
Date: 4 Jun 1996 06:53:35 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company
Message-ID: <4p0mhf$bis@news.tiac.net>
Subject says it all. Any idea where to find these?
Thanks in advance.
Barney
From: Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 08:23:21 +0200
Organization: Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics
Message-ID: <31B3D659.49D5@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl>
References: <4oa9dn$4c@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <4of2tv$gji@www.mci.com> <4of9cc$58b@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <Ds4nDq.oz0@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> <Pine.HPP.3.91.960603154610.3786A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Bernhard Scholz wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 1996, Jerry Kuch wrote:
> > >It shouldn't be hogging those kinds of resources...
> I disagree. OmniWeb 2 is definitly slower than any other Web browser I
> know off. I run a 64MB Intel Box and didn't get any speed improvements
> during my 32MB->64MB update (no, I didn't update because of OmniWeb :)
One fun exercise is to run 'top' or 'ps -ux' while running OmniWeb2.
They often report VSIZEs of up to 150 MB! Fortunately Mach is smart
enough to not actually create that much swapdisk, that stays at 30-50 MB
(with other apps running as well). It may contribute to the speed
problem, though. On the whole I find OmniWeb quite useable on a 20MB 25
MHz BW slab.
I still wonder when their bug-tracking database comes on-line. RSN.
--
G.J. van Oldenborgh
Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics, Leiden University
email: gj@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl
web: http://www-lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html
From: htobias@cs.columbia.edu (Tobias Hoellerer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: lost pointer to NeXTStep/Java company webpage
Date: 4 Jun 1996 00:25:11 GMT
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Message-ID: <4ovvp7$coe@lol.cs.columbia.edu>
Hi everybody,
A couple of weeks ago I found a webpage where a company
that had started offering NeXTStep solutions quite a
few years ago displayed their current work:
GUI objects, realized as Java applets.
What they showcased was among others a NeXTish looking Color
picker and a 3D rotation wheel (or 'trackball widget') applet.
It is this last item that I'm interested in.
I lost the pointer to the webpage and can't find it with
any of those search engines out there. Does anybody of you
know what I'm talking about and could send me the reference ?
Thanks a lot,
Tobias
---
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450 Computer Science Building, 500 W 120 Street, New York, NY 10027
phone: (212) 939 7116, fax: (212) 666-0140
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Balling does not work on ADB
Date: 4 Jun 1996 08:09:53 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4p0r0h$a1@turbocat.snafu.de>
References: <4osm6t$dv@turbocat.snafu.de> <4ot3de$26u@news.iastate.edu> <4otcgi$4tb@news.xmission.com>
don@misckit.com wrote:
(...)
> That means that the author used the raw key codes instead of
> checking against the proper charset/character combination like
> they should have. The raw codes are device dependent, the other
> is not. (That's why PacMan should work anywhere... :-) )
> Anyone with access to the source code could fix it in five minutes
> or less... but source code isn't available, to my knowledge.
>
> It is an easily remedied bug in the program. Nothing is wrong with
> your ADB hardware.
I know. But maybe someone has a newer version or the source? Can the author
be reached via email?
_ _
_(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development,
(_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG,
_/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152
(______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MiniSQLAdapter problem
Date: 4 Jun 1996 16:27:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <4p1o4k$jf0@news.tamu.edu>
I have tried to build the MiniSQLAdapter for Minerva (minisql) on NSFIP
3.3. I use the ProjectBuilder build command but get the following error in
the PB detail window:
cc -g -Wall -pipe -I/usr/local/Minerva/include -O -I./sym -arch
i386 -I./sym -c MiniSQLAdaptor.m -o ./i386_obj/MiniSQLAdaptor.o
/NextDeveloper/Headers/eoaccess/EOAdaptorChannel.h:198: undefined type,
found `NSCalendarDate'
*** Exit 1
Stop.
*** Exit 1
Stop.
'NSCalendarDate' appears to be defined correctly in NSDate.h, which is
located at:
/NextDeveloper/Headers/foundation/NSDate.h
and linked to:
/usr/include/NSDate.h
also:
/usr/include/foundation/NSDate.h
Could anyone tell me how to fix this problem?
Stephen Johnson, sjohnson@myriad.net
Computer Consulting Int'l, LTD
PO Box 1046
College Station, TX 77841
409-696-9463
From: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Large File System ?
Date: 4 Jun 1996 16:15:52 GMT
Organization: Universite Laval
Message-ID: <4p1nfo$pg@athena.ulaval.ca>
Greetings,
Could someone explain what the preferences.app option
Unix -- Large File System
does, and when to turn it on?
Thanks!
Antoine Gautier
From: bob@ira108.imonics.com (Bob Lunney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Getting over the firewall with OmniWeb
Date: 5 Jun 1996 03:44:39 GMT
Organization: Imonics Corporation
Message-ID: <4p2vr7$h9r@laptev.imonics.com>
Keywords: firewall socks proxy OmniWeb
So. I'm sitting behind this firewall, trying to access anything in the
World using OmniWeb, and I'm having no luck at all. I mess with some
preferences in OW2, with no joy. I browse the Omni Group home page and
find the https, services, and (!) socks bundles. I download the socks
bundle, install it in /LocalLibrary/OmniComponents, fiddle with the SOCKS
preferences (gawd, I love NEXTSTEP), but still no joy.
Anyone know where the FAQ or other docs are for this? I notice the SOCKS
preferences specify the file /etc/socks.conf. What is the format for this
configuration file? Is it similar to resolv.conf?
Thanks in advance for your net.help.
--
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Imonics, Inc. | systems today. (tm)
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From: shenning@Cornell-Iowa.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for a program like Notebook.app
Date: 5 Jun 1996 03:44:20 GMT
Organization: Cornell College, Mount Vernon, IA, USA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4p2vqk$11bi@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu>
I have been examining a program called Notebook.app from Millennium Software.
These people do not seem to be in business anymore.
Does anybody know if there is another program like this one or if I could get
a working copy. I only have the demo. The list price quoted is $495, which is
way beyond my budget, but I would still like to see if I can get a copy at a
reasonable price.
Please respond by email.
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[ 600 1st Street West ][ Maildrop: ]
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From: markm@winternet.com (Mark Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Strange behavior with PPP 0.4.6 and PopOver 1.4
Date: 5 Jun 1996 04:18:53 GMT
Organization: Winternet Corporation, Mpls, MN
Message-ID: <4p31rd$8ev@blackice.winternet.com>
References: <4ogkvp$7d5@blackice.winternet.com> <4p08p4$424@miwok.nbn.com>
In article <4p08p4$424@miwok.nbn.com>, William Swats <wswats@nbn.com> wrote:
>
>I had the same or similar problem. I think the problem for me was that my ISP
>enabled VJ header compression. So the link came up and then went down so
>header compression could be turn on. The link would then come back up. I
>ended up by just turning off header compression on my end and everything
>started working again. I put the following into the file /etc/ppp/options:
>
># -vj Disable negotiation of Van Jacobson style IP header
># compression (use default, i.e. no compression).
># Disabled this compression so that pppd would not
># go down right after it came up when it negociated the VJ
># compression scheme. The link would come right back up but it
># was messing other apps up so I just disabled it with this option.
Thanks, William! This seemed to have solved the problem.
--
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markm@winternet.com | can't understand." - Steely Dan
From: JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FaxDriver for USRSportster Faxmodem
Date: 4 Jun 1996 17:29:51 GMT
Organization: PIRONET GmbH
Distribution: sysadmin
Message-ID: <4p1rqf$geq@sail.leverkusen.netsurf.de>
Summary: How can we all get a driver for USRSPortster?
Keywords: USR-Sportster, Faxmodem, Driver
Hello,
I followed the discussions in this newsgroups only for some weeks and I think that I am not the only poor guy who bought a USRSportster Faxmodem and cannot send a single fax. There is no fax driver available for the USRSportster, because it is a Class 1 Faxmodem.
How can we all get a driver? email to USRobotics? email to NXFax? Perhaps everyone who wants to fax with his Sportster should post a news to this forum and say "Hi there who wants to create a FaxDriver for USRSportster Faxmodem?" I think a driver is worth a good shareware price!
So if anybody is willing to create a driver - do it, I will pay the shareware-price!
Still in hope
Jan Ulrich Hasecke
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Getting over the firewall with OmniWeb
Date: 5 Jun 1996 10:09:09 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Message-ID: <4p3mc5$16pf@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <4p2vr7$h9r@laptev.imonics.com>
Bob Lunney (bob@ira108.imonics.com) wrote:
> So. I'm sitting behind this firewall, trying to access anything in the
> World using OmniWeb, and I'm having no luck at all. I mess with some
> preferences in OW2, with no joy. I browse the Omni Group home page and
> find the https, services, and (!) socks bundles. I download the socks
> bundle, install it in /LocalLibrary/OmniComponents, fiddle with the SOCKS
> preferences (gawd, I love NEXTSTEP), but still no joy.
Are you sure you need socks? If your site runs a proxy server, all you
need to do is connect to that poxy by entering in your OmniWeb prefernces.
Socks are not for ther faint at heart :-)
Best wishes, Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.."
// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
// +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Large File System ?
Date: 5 Jun 1996 10:38:55 GMT
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4p3o3v$shm@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de>
References: <4p1nfo$pg@athena.ulaval.ca>
In article <4p1nfo$pg@athena.ulaval.ca> antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca
(Antoine Gautier) writes:
> Greetings,
>
> Could someone explain what the preferences.app option
>
> Unix -- Large File System
>
> does, and when to turn it on?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Antoine Gautier
I think it does less cashing of filenames, so it saves RAM space for the
workspace manager. And I think the neighbor houses do not show up any more if
large file system is on.
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From: BCOG Webmaster <webmaster@bcog.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FTP sites for procmail and socks?
Date: 5 Jun 1996 06:04:37 GMT
Organization: British Columbia Openstep Group (BCOG)
Message-ID: <4p381l$kn@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
References: <4p0mhf$bis@news.tiac.net>
jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) wrote:
>Subject says it all. Any idea where to find these?
ftp://ftp.bcog.org/pub/internet/client/OmniWeb2Bundles/socks4.NIHS.b.tar.gz
and
ftp://ftp.bcog.org/pub/internet/client/procmail-3.11pre4.tar.gz
Enjoy!
--
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<webmaster@bcog.org> http://www.bcog.org
* MIME/NeXTmail welcome * PGP key available *
o be in a format
> for some older DOS sound package (not the same thing as a NeXT .snd).
> What you need to do to get what you want is convert the .wav to a .au
> and then rename it to .snd (NeXT's .snd format is practically
> identical to Sun's .au format).
>
> Another thing to condsider is that NeXT hardware will play any correctly
> formatted .snd that has a sample rate less than 50kHz or so, but it
> will only be distortionless if the rate is 8012 (actually played back at
> 8012.8210513 Hz), 44100, or 22050.
>
> Eric
>
Where can I get the source for sox to compile under DOS/Windows? Or where
can I pick up another program to convert *.snd to *.wav that'll run under
DOS/Windows?
Thanks.
--
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Digital Equipment Corporation
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Alpharetta, GA 30201-7407
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2/15/96
From: jfranco@montgomery.plato.sky.bdm.com (Jeff Franco,,,)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NewsFlash posting issue
Date: 5 Jun 1996 13:00:27 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Message-ID: <4p40db$ood@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
This was interesting. I went to post a message using NewsFlash, and I
got the following message:
Article not posted -- more included text than new text
Why would NewFlash find it necessary to limit my posting to only
messages in which I have typed more than I have included?
--
Thanks,
Jeff Franco
(703) 824-4301
Price Waterhouse LLP
jfranco@plato.sky.bdm.com (NeXTMail, MIME)
From: Bob Lunney - Imonics Development <bob.lunney@imonics.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Getting over the firewall with OmniWeb
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 09:58:43 -0400
Organization: Imonics Corporation
Message-ID: <31B59293.11CA@imonics.com>
References: <4p2vr7$h9r@laptev.imonics.com> <4p3mc5$16pf@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Christian Neuss wrote:
>
> Bob Lunney (bob@ira108.imonics.com) wrote:
> > So. I'm sitting behind this firewall, trying to access anything in the
> > World using OmniWeb, and I'm having no luck at all. I mess with some
> > preferences in OW2, with no joy. I browse the Omni Group home page and
> > find the https, services, and (!) socks bundles. I download the socks
> > bundle, install it in /LocalLibrary/OmniComponents, fiddle with the SOCKS
> > preferences (gawd, I love NEXTSTEP), but still no joy.
>
> Are you sure you need socks? If your site runs a proxy server, all you
> need to do is connect to that poxy by entering in your OmniWeb prefernces.
>
> Socks are not for ther faint at heart :-)
>
> Best wishes, Chris
> --
> // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.."
> // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
> // +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
Good question. Let me elaborate.
The sysadmins have set up the remote (re: at home) ISDN
connectivity so that users with more than one machine get an
ISDN unit, ethernet hub, and their own IP address range.
Those IP addresses are different from the ones in the office,
so they also set up a SOCKS server so people could browse the
web. This works fine on my PC running Windows 95 and
Netscape, since I just enter the SOCKS server name and port
as parameters in Netscapes network preferences and off I go.
However, there is no proxy server at work for me to enter
into the OmniWeb preferences. (Or maybe I'm doing it
wrong...)
Anyway, I'm still not getting connected using OW2. Any help
(RTFM pointers could be the right answer) will be immensely
appreciated.
--
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Imonics, Inc. | systems today. (tm)
bob.lunney@imonics.com | Character is what you are in
(919) 461-6261 | the dark. -- Dwight Moody
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Strange behavior with PPP 0.4.6 and PopOver 1.4
Date: 5 Jun 1996 14:37:38 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
Message-ID: <4p463i$1ag4@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
References: <4ogkvp$7d5@blackice.winternet.com> <4p08p4$424@miwok.nbn.com>
<4p31rd$8ev@blackice.winternet.com>
Cc: markm@winternet.com
In <4p31rd$8ev@blackice.winternet.com> Mark Miller wrote:
> In article <4p08p4$424@miwok.nbn.com>, William Swats <wswats@nbn.com>
wrote:
> >
> >I had the same or similar problem. I think the problem for me was that my
ISP
> >enabled VJ header compression. So the link came up and then went down so
> >header compression could be turn on. The link would then come back up. I
> >ended up by just turning off header compression on my end and everything
> >started working again. I put the following into the file /etc/ppp/options:
> >
> ># -vj Disable negotiation of Van Jacobson style IP header
> ># compression (use default, i.e. no compression).
> ># Disabled this compression so that pppd would not
> ># go down right after it came up when it negociated the VJ
> ># compression scheme. The link would come right back up but it
> ># was messing other apps up so I just disabled it with this option.
>
> Thanks, William! This seemed to have solved the problem.
>
I recently began getting this behavior after my provider switched to using
portmasters. Adding -vj also fixed the problem for me (Thanks!). I'm trying
to followup and figure out why. If you have this problem, could you please
find out what type of PPP server you dial into and forward this information
to me?
If it is a bug in the NeXT LKS I will provide a patch. If it is a bug in the
other implementation I will at least add an FAQ.
Thanks in advance!
- Steve
---
==============================================================
Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu
Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP
Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2
NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsFlash posting issue
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:35:43 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960605102356.3258A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4p40db$ood@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: "Jeff Franco,,," <jfranco@montgomery.plato.sky.bdm.com>
In-Reply-To: <4p40db$ood@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
On 5 Jun 1996, Jeff Franco,,, wrote:
> This was interesting. I went to post a message using NewsFlash, and I
> got the following message:
>
> Article not posted -- more included text than new text
>
> Why would NewFlash find it necessary to limit my posting to only
> messages in which I have typed more than I have included?
Ah, the old task of legislating morality...
"One should not quote more than one says"
I believe it is netiquette to edit quoted material so that you include
only what is absolutely necessary. This way, those who read your replies
will know exactly what you are referring to. This also prevents people
from quoting several paragraphs only to add a "me too" at the end. For
people with slow Usenet connections it is quite a pain to have to page
down through several pages of ">"s to get only a one-line new-post.
However, it is also true that many people cross-post at will, or re-post
idnetical messages in many different groups (aka "poor crossposting").
That doesn't relate to anything other than something which bugs me.
So the short answer is that "common" courtesy dictates that one should
narrow down one's quoted text to be as specific as possible, and one
should have enough worthwhile to say which is more than what one is
quoting. While this does not apply in every situation (ie, if someone
asks for a phone number or address), if the poster and the responder both
keep their posts as tight as possible, then it should not be much of a
hardship....
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma (Formerly known as: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu)
New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
*** Please note: the new address cannot read the 'reply-to' line ***
From: Hans Shimizu Karlsson <hanske@pobox.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] Free AppleShare for 3.3
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:46:45 GMT
Organization: Global OnLine Japan
Message-ID: <960605184645.4524AAC1E.hanske@raven>
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Hello
I've been using the freeware AppleShare app that came on the 3.0 CD-ROM, but
it won't work after I uppgraded from 3.2J to 3.3J.
It shows up in Preferences.app as before, but I get an error message when I
try to set its preferences, and the networked Mac does not appear in the
fileviewer anymore.
Does anyone know if this utility works under 3.3?
The prices for the commercial products available are a bit steep.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hans Shimizu Karlsson
Director
Internet Cafe (Tokyo) Co., Ltd.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
JAPAN FROM THE VIEW OF A FROG
- an art journey -
http://www.japancrafts.com/cafe
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
hanske@pobox.com
NeXTmail preferred. MIME, Sun, plain vanilla supported.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: lost pointer to NeXTStep/Java company webpage
Date: 5 Jun 1996 17:58:33 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4p4hs9$omn@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4ovvp7$coe@lol.cs.columbia.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4ovvp7$coe@lol.cs.columbia.edu>
On 06/04/96, Tobias Hoellerer wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago I found a webpage where a company
> that had started offering NeXTStep solutions quite a
> few years ago displayed their current work:
> GUI objects, realized as Java applets.
>
> What they showcased was among others a NeXTish looking Color
> picker and a 3D rotation wheel (or 'trackball widget') applet.
> It is this last item that I'm interested in.
>
> I lost the pointer to the webpage and can't find it with
> any of those search engines out there. Does anybody of you
> know what I'm talking about and could send me the reference ?
>
http://www.stone.com/
in particular:
http://www.stone.com/java/Java.html
I'm not sure if Andrew's decided quite what to do with these yet, though. On
behalf of a friend I called up to buy the colour picker, and he seemed
remarkably reluctant to sell!
Any change yet?! :-)
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: hmoorer@oclc.org (Robin Hermance-Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: 2Do.app
Date: 5 Jun 1996 15:37:13 -0400
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
Message-ID: <4p4nl9$s1v@oclc.org>
Does anyone know where to find a copy of 2Do.app?
I think I got a copy of it from Dan Grillo's home page once,
but can't find it now & have somehow deleted the copy I had.
Thanks!!!
Robin
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsFlash posting issue
Date: 5 Jun 1996 22:19:41 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <4p515t$acf@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <4p40db$ood@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960605102356.3258A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960605102356.3258A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
On 06/05/96, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
>
>On 5 Jun 1996, Jeff Franco,,, wrote:
>
>> This was interesting. I went to post a message using NewsFlash,
and I
>> got the following message:
>>
>> Article not posted -- more included text than new text
>>
>> Why would NewFlash find it necessary to limit my posting to only
>> messages in which I have typed more than I have included?
>
>Ah, the old task of legislating morality...
>
>"One should not quote more than one says"
>
>I believe it is netiquette to edit quoted material so that you
include
>only what is absolutely necessary. This way, those who read your
replies
>will know exactly what you are referring to. This also prevents
people
>from quoting several paragraphs only to add a "me too" at the end.
For
>people with slow Usenet connections it is quite a pain to have to
page
>down through several pages of ">"s to get only a one-line new-post.
>
Its quite possible that its not Newsflash that is doing it,
but that your news server is set up to police that. It is an option
in INN. You'll need to appeal to your sysadmin..
I've posted using Newsflash quotes that were larger than the
additions (this message as an example!)
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
http://www.stepwise.com/ (Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server)
From: mike@ali.bc.ca (Michael Cam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsFlash posting issue
Date: 5 Jun 1996 22:17:03 GMT
Organization: ALI
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4p510v$k3g@cetus.ali.bc.ca>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960605102356.3258A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In article
<Pine.NXT.3.93.960605102356.3258A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
>
> On 5 Jun 1996, Jeff Franco,,, wrote:
>
> > This was interesting. I went to post a message using NewsFlash, and I
> > got the following message:
> >
> > Article not posted -- more included text than new text
You get the same thing with NewsGrazer. I wonder if a whole bunch of
blank lines would help.
..Mike.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <dchan@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <9606060258.AA00325@earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
From: Derek Chan <dchan@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 96 19:58:30 -0700
Subject: Re: lost pointer to NeXTStep/Java company webpage
From: htobias@cs.columbia.edu (Tobias Hoellerer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: lost pointer to NeXTStep/Java company webpage
Date: 4 Jun 1996 00:25:11 GMT
I think your looking for Stone Design.
http://www.stone.com/java/Java.html
> Hi everybody,
>
> A couple of weeks ago I found a webpage where a company
> that had started offering NeXTStep solutions quite a
> few years ago displayed their current work:
> GUI objects, realized as Java applets.
>
> What they showcased was among others a NeXTish looking Color
> picker and a 3D rotation wheel (or 'trackball widget') applet.
> It is this last item that I'm interested in.
>
> I lost the pointer to the webpage and can't find it with
> any of those search engines out there. Does anybody of you
> know what I'm talking about and could send me the reference ?
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Tobias
>
---
Derek Chan
dchan@earthlink.net
(NextMail or MIME - o.k.)
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] How to display/print an NS PostScript file on a Mac?
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 00:52:48 -0500
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <31B67230.6D47@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <DsBs5x.991@midway.uchicago.edu> <jbf-0206961004200001@frazer.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To: "James B. Frazer" <jbf@frazer.com>
James B. Frazer wrote:
>
> In article <DsBs5x.991@midway.uchicago.edu>, yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu (Hiro Yoshida) wrote:
>
> > Could anyone know how to display and print a NeXT's PostScript file on a
> > Machintosh?
>
> I don't know of any "free" (ot commercial) tool for viewing PS on a Mac.
Well check out GhostScript 1.0, it's now PowerPC code!
------------------------------------------
Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie
mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ASCII, MIME or NeXT Mail
Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University
Understanding is best learned via experience
ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: hohner@aol.com (Hohner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 2Do.app
Date: 6 Jun 1996 05:45:46 -0400
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com
Message-ID: <4p69ca$ift@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
References: <4p4nl9$s1v@oclc.org>
Find it at
http://www.running-start.com
it is a very useful app and runs on my machine all day every day. Proof
of the quality of his work no doubt.
good luck.
Steve Haynes
EQB Industries.
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Microkernal, PPC Question
Date: 4 Jun 1996 21:34:34 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4p2a5a$gvg@news.its.com>
References: <case-0106960332160001@wintermute.commonlink.com>
case@commonlink.com (Ryan-Emory Lundberg) wrote:
> I'm used NeXT Step once and liked it, I thought it was cool. I was
> thinking back to what little I knew and that the FAQ was kinda unclear
> about in some ways. Is NeXT Step based on the Mach3 Microkernal? (At
> least the original black version, not the Intel?)
No. NEXTSTEP uses a monolithic kernel design that was originally
corresponded to somewhere between what CMU called Mach v2.0 and v2.5. Since
that time, NeXT has added a few improvements from BSD 4.4 Lite and Mach 3.0,
but NEXTSTEP still does not run on top of a microkernel.
> And if it is, could I not run NeXT Step on my PowerMac under the Mach3 MK?
There's no reason why NeXT couldn't port NEXTSTEP (or OPENSTEP) to the PPC if
they wanted to-- but NeXT doesn't seem very interested....
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: thoran@pedder.csse.swin.edu.au (thoran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: offline news and mail reader app(s) for OS
Date: 6 Jun 1996 16:06:55 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
Message-ID: <4p6vmv$glp@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>
Hi,
I'm looking for an offline news and mail client app or apps which does not
rely upon uucp, but will use ppp and dialin on demand rather than at
predefined times like uucp (although this may be possible too) and upload
mail and postings and download the latest of either a predefined and
regular set of transactions or a temporary set for a quick grab of a
certain smaller set of newsgroups or ftp transfers or whatever.
Am I trying to reinvent a perfectly adequate wheel in uucp?
Thanks,
thoran
From: thoran@pedder.csse.swin.edu.au (thoran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: videoconferencing software for OS does not exist?... yet?
Date: 6 Jun 1996 16:09:25 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
Message-ID: <4p6vrl$c2e@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>
Hi,
Is CU-SeeMe and other like products never going to see the light of an
OPENSTEP day? Several posters to this group have been enquiring for well
over a year about this and still I've heard nothing from anyone about
anything that will support videoconferencing. Admittedly, you may say:
"you want it so badly so write it". So, does anyone else wants to do
this...
thoran
From: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FaxDriver for USRSportster Faxmodem
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 10:24:38 -0700
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd.
Message-ID: <31B71456.3A8A@mpr.ca>
References: <4p1rqf$geq@sail.leverkusen.netsurf.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de wrote:
>
> How can we all get a driver? email to USRobotics? email to NXFax? Perhaps everyone who wants to fax with his Sportster should post a news to this forum and say
>
> So if anybody is willing to create a driver - do it, I will pay the shareware-price!
>
Hi am very interested in one as well. count me in for a one.
--
Scott Mewett
MPR Teltech Ltd. Burnaby, BC
mewett@mpr.ca ACSII Only
mewett@planeteer.com NeXTMail Welcome
From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 2Do.app
Date: 6 Jun 1996 17:27:26 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <4p74du$gem@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <4p4nl9$s1v@oclc.org>? <4p69ca$ift@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
In-Reply-To: <4p69ca$ift@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
On 06/06/96, Hohner wrote:
>Find it at
>http://www.running-start.com
>
>it is a very useful app and runs on my machine all day every day. Proof
>of the quality of his work no doubt.
>
>good luck.
>Steve Haynes
>EQB Industries.
>
My version is called RZToDoList.app, is Version 1.1, and is written by Ralph
Zazula -- rzazula@next.com. Is this the same as the one to which you are
referring? And is it the latest version?
Thanks.
R
--
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__o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\,
_`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> |
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From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 2Do.app
Date: 6 Jun 1996 18:01:11 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4p76d7$s95@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4p4nl9$s1v@oclc.org>? <4p69ca$ift@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4p74du$gem@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4p74du$gem@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
On 06/06/96, Randy Jackson wrote:
> On 06/06/96, Hohner wrote:
> >Find it at
> >http://www.running-start.com
> >
> My version is called RZToDoList.app, is Version 1.1, and is written by
> Ralph Zazula -- rzazula@next.com. Is this the same as the one to which you
> are referring? And is it the latest version?
>
No, the latest version (1.2) is available from running-start.
Many thanks to Ralph for an excellent app.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: murshid@unit.edu (murshid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: I need Pages 1.7.1 disks
Date: 6 Jun 1996 17:58:32 GMT
Organization: CERFnet
Message-ID: <4p7688$7cv@news.cerf.net>
I am a registered user of Pages. I purchased the most recent version
that supports making web documents in html. I had a hard disk crash
and lost Pages. When I reloaded the software I found that I have
corrupt disks. I have asked the current owner of pages to help me and
below is his response:
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 13:03:26 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ted Shelton <ucsd!its.com!ems>
To: murshid@unit.edu
Subject: Pages
Cc: arpad@its.com, dwight@its.com
I am sorry, but there is really nothing we can do for you. We
ceased producing Pages almost 10 months ago, and while we did
provide some support for old customers (such as answering questions)
for quite some time after ceasing official support for the [product,
we are now completely out of the NEXTSTEP business and can no
longer even provide answers to questions, much less new copies of
theapplication.
sorry,
Ted Shelton
IT Solutions
++++
So if a NeXT user has the disks and could provide me with copies I
would be most grateful. I would happily submit proof of
ownership.
Thank you
Murshid
--
Murshid Grateful to use the only computer
murshid@unit.edu that feels like it works the
619 985 2323 way a computer should work.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jens@ipc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: Large File System ?
Message-ID: <DsKtnL.38F@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
References: <4p1nfo$pg@athena.ulaval.ca>
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 11:38:09 GMT
Antoine Gautier writes
> Could someone explain what the preferences.app option
> Unix -- Large File System
> does, and when to turn it on?
If you have directories with more than ~500 entries it won't
scan everything, but only display what you see (lazy fetching).
so long,
jens ch. gloede
__ _________________________________________________________
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Oettingenstrasse 2 Jens Ch. Gloede - CEO ipc -
80538 Munich Tel.: ++49 (0)89 219975-0
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E-Mail: jens@ipc.de NeXT & MIME Mail ok (int.< 1 MB)
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: offline news and mail reader app(s) for OS
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:01:25 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960606155616.3435A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4p6vmv$glp@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: thoran <thoran@pedder.csse.swin.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <4p6vmv$glp@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for an offline news and mail client app or apps which does not
> rely upon uucp, but will use ppp and dialin on demand rather than at
> predefined times like uucp (although this may be possible too) and upload
> mail and postings and download the latest of either a predefined and
> regular set of transactions or a temporary set for a quick grab of a
> certain smaller set of newsgroups or ftp transfers or whatever.
For Mail you want (ideally) to use Pop (if the site which has your mail is
running a pop server, which is quite common).
Check out:
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps/PopOver.1.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz
ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/comp/platforms/next/Mail/apps/PopOver.1.5.README
or
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/PopOver.v1.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/PopOver.v1.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz.README
Reading news offline is more difficult. Last I heard one had to use
something called 'slurp' which was much too complex for my simple brain...
If you find a way, I'd love to hear it.
TjL
--
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New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
*** Please note: the new address cannot read the 'reply-to' line ***
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: videoconferencing software for OS does not exist?... yet?
Date: 6 Jun 1996 20:50:19 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4p7gac$40f@news.onramp.net>
References: <4p6vrl$c2e@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>
thoran@pedder.csse.swin.edu.au (thoran) writes:
>
> Is CU-SeeMe and other like products never going to see the light of an
> OPENSTEP day? Several posters to this group have been enquiring for well
> over a year about this and still I've heard nothing from anyone about
> anything that will support videoconferencing. Admittedly, you may say:
> "you want it so badly so write it". So, does anyone else wants to do
> this...
Some of the problems might be:
1) the popular video conferencing protocols are proprietaty?
2) no PD source libs for this stuff?
3) no cheap device drivers for real-time video capture for NS Intel?
--
Steve Dekorte "C++/Java, the COBOL of the 90s"
NeXTstep consultant - Anaheim, CA
mailto:dekorte@suite.com (NeXTmail,MIME)
http://www.batech.com/~dekorte/dekorte/index.html
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsFlash posting issue
Date: 6 Jun 1996 20:45:12 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <4p7g0o$7f0@digifix.digifix.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960605102356.3258A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4p510v$k3g@cetus.ali.bc.ca>
In-Reply-To: <4p510v$k3g@cetus.ali.bc.ca>
On 06/05/96, Michael Cam wrote:
>In article
><Pine.NXT.3.93.960605102356.3258A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
>"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
>>
>> On 5 Jun 1996, Jeff Franco,,, wrote:
>>
>> > This was interesting. I went to post a message using NewsFlash,
and I
>> > got the following message:
>> >
>> > Article not posted -- more included text than new text
>
>You get the same thing with NewsGrazer. I wonder if a whole bunch of
>blank lines would help.
>
>
What would really help is ensuring that proper measures are
taken to remove as much unrequired text as possible from the original
message.
If you want to fix it, get your admin to change the newserver
setting, don't waste bandwidth.
--
- Scott Anguish -
sanguish@digifix.com (NextMail)
next-announce@digifix.com (comp.sys.next.announce submissions)
http://www.stepwise.com/ (Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information Server)
From: kehoe@fortuity.com (Daniel Miles Kehoe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: pjpeg or png from tiff or gif or jpeg
Date: 6 Jun 1996 22:18:22 GMT
Organization: North Bay Network, Inc. news server - not responsible for content
Message-ID: <4p7lfe$jnf@miwok.nbn.com>
For my Web site I'd like to use progressive jpeg (pjpeg) or the new png
graphics format as an alternative to the gif graphics format.
Under NEXTSTEP 3.3 (black), what can I use to convert to pjpeg or png from
tiff or gif or jpeg?
Daniel Kehoe
kehoe@fortuity.com
From: kinau@lennon.csufresno.edu (Kin Hung Au)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Backup Hardware and Software
Date: 6 Jun 1996 17:06:10 GMT
Organization: Californi State University, Fresno
Message-ID: <4p7362$sme@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU>
Hi Folks,
Do anyone know any backup hardware and software which can backup NeXT, SUN,
Mac and Window machine?
I would like to use Solistice Backup 4.2 on Sparc Server. However, it
doesn't support NeXT platform. Is it anyway we can backup NeXT using
Solistice 4.2?
Thanks in advance!!
--Kin
From: clasch@tallawe.lahn.de (Claus Schneeberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Getting over the firewall with OmniWeb
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:38:55 GMT
Organization: Talladh-A-Bheithe
Sender: news@tallawe.lahn.de (NetNews)
Message-ID: <DsLIov.7nB@tallawe.lahn.de>
References: <4p2vr7$h9r@laptev.imonics.com> <4p3mc5$16pf@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
<31B59293.11CA@imonics.com>
Cc: bob.lunney@imonics.com
In <31B59293.11CA@imonics.com> Bob Lunney - Imonics
Development wrote:
> Anyway, I'm still not getting connected using OW2. Any
help
> (RTFM pointers could be the right answer) will be immensely
> appreciated.
>
>
I experienced something like that when i installed OW2 final
over OW2 Beta...
Solution: I deleted the OW entry in the defaults database.
Claus
--
\\ Claus Schneeberger \\
\\ 63674 Altenstadt/ Hessen \\
\\ clasch@tallawe.lahn.de \\
___\\ Member of WiNG __________\\
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Subject: Re: gs for next/i386?
Message-ID: <DsLv6M.18H@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN
References: <4osu3m$35h@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:08:45 GMT
In article <4osu3m$35h@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S.
Wong) writes:
: Is there a gs "ghostscript" for NeXT/i386 compiled. I need it
: to use on my Canon printer for printing.
:
Contact Canon. Canon sells a printer driver for NEXTSTEP INTEL.
The driver handles BJC-400J, BJC-600J, etc.
When the driver release was delayed in late 1994, I compiled
gs to use my BJC-600J bubble jet color printer in NEXTSTEP
3.2J INTEL. With a few modification in the configuration file
I could print via /dev/pp0 necessarily in the monochrome
mode. The quality of printing was not totally bad, but the
lack of the busy control caused character/line missing in
printing a large ps file. And a small lower part of every
character was always missing.
I am totally ignorant of the current development of gs. But
from my experience, I recommend you to buy the printer
driver. It will cost you about $150US. If you are using
BJC-600J and preferring to try gs, please mail me.
---
Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji
hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB)
From: jhills@unix.infoserve.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] Free AppleShare for 3.3
Date: 7 Jun 1996 04:10:28 GMT
Message-ID: <4p8a3k$atg@news.infoserve.net>
References: <960605184645.4524AAC1E.hanske@raven>
Shin ai naru Karlsson-sama
Nan de Appleshare wo tsukaitai ka? Doosite TCP/IP wo tsukaimasen ka? Mac to
NeXT wo onaji network jyyusyou ni settei suru to dochira demo server ya
client ni tsukaeru, Ethernet ya PPP de. Hontoo ni kantan desu yo. Nedan mo
ii. Server no baiai, Mac de NetPresenz $10 shareware wo tsukau to FTP,
Gopher, Webserver dekiru. NeXT de Apache webserver wo tsukau. Mochiron FTP
server ga unix ni tsuite iru. Client nara MAc de Fetch ya Netscape, NeXT de
Omniweb ya GatorFTP. Hakuna matata. Kein problem.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: stty -extproc: what does it do?
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DsLz0s.EBG@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 02:31:40 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo
I've found out that blasting a "stty -extproc" fixes line-break and tab
problems when logged in to an NS box from random places. What I don't know is
what it actually *does*. I haven't found any mention of it in a cursory look
at man pages and other documentation.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: looking for emacs (BLACK)
Date: 2 Jun 1996 14:36:19 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4os8t3$kbo@news.its.com>
References: <4oifqq$ee2@zeus.dciem.dnd.ca>
robbie@hermes.dciem.dnd.ca (G.Robert Arrabito) wrote:
> Is there a NS (BLAC) version of emacs? If so,
> where can I get it. Thanks.
NeXT provides Emacs with the developer release-- look for Emacs.pkg.
Alternatively, you can compile your own version from the GNU sources, or you
can grab Carl Edman's Emacs-for-NS (try asking <cedman@princeton.edu>-- I
can't find the ftp reference).
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: offline news and mail reader app(s) for OS
Date: 7 Jun 1996 05:03:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4p8d6o$d8@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
References: <4p6vmv$glp@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960606155616.3435A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> > I'm looking for an offline news and mail client app or apps which does
not
> > rely upon uucp, but will use ppp and dialin on demand rather than at
> > predefined times like uucp (although this may be possible too) and upload
> > mail and postings and download the latest of either a predefined and
> > regular set of transactions or a temporary set for a quick grab of a
> > certain smaller set of newsgroups or ftp transfers or whatever.
>
> For Mail you want (ideally) to use Pop (if the site which has your mail is
> running a pop server, which is quite common).
I certainly wouldn't characterize POP as ideal for a multiuser UNIX
system like NS because POP lumps all mail intended for a POP account into a
single mail spool file. So if you have 10 NS accounts, you'd need 10
different POP accounts, something most ISPs won't provide, at least without
an extra charge.
I understand that procmail can be used to separate a POP spool file into
spool files for each UNIX account, but who wants to have to configure both
POP and procmail to emulate what UUCP or SMTP provide?
If you can find an ISP who will exchange email via UUCP over PPP (e.g.,
UUNET), that's a nice setup because UUCP in TCP mode uses the efficient 't'
protocol (1 kb packets without the need for error checking - TCP/IP does it).
And it can be controlled by the client using uucico unlike SMTP which depends
on the server to send incoming mail.
--
Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@cubicsol.com
Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515
CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154
managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: looking for emacs (BLACK)
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:48:56 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960607084616.6639A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4oifqq$ee2@zeus.dciem.dnd.ca> <4os8t3$kbo@news.its.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/editor/
Emacs_for_NeXTstep.4.12.NS3.3p1.NIHS.b.tar.gz
I believe this is the latest version.
I'd recommend getting the source and compiling yourself if you can, which
I believe is found at:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/editor/
Emacs_for_NeXTstep.4.12patch.s.tar.gz
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma (Formerly known as: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu)
New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
*** Please note: the new address cannot read the 'reply-to' line ***
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: offline news and mail reader app(s) for OS
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:53:51 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960607085116.6639B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <4p6vmv$glp@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960606155616.3435A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4p8d6o$d8@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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To: Art Isbell <art@cubicsol.com>
In-Reply-To: <4p8d6o$d8@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
On 7 Jun 1996, Art Isbell wrote:
> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> > For Mail you want (ideally) to use Pop (if the site which has your mail is
> > running a pop server, which is quite common).
>
> I certainly wouldn't characterize POP as ideal for a multiuser UNIX
> system like NS because POP lumps all mail intended for a POP account into a
> single mail spool file. So if you have 10 NS accounts, you'd need 10
> different POP accounts, something most ISPs won't provide, at least without
> an extra charge.
I would quite agree that if you are talking about multi-users, then POP
isn't what you want.... Sorry, I have a tendency to forget that some are
dealing with many more computers than I am....
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma (Formerly known as: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu)
New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
*** Please note: the new address cannot read the 'reply-to' line ***
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: stty -extproc: what does it do?
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:00:43 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960607085817.6639C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <DsLz0s.EBG@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
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To: David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca>
In-Reply-To: <DsLz0s.EBG@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, David Evans wrote:
> I've found out that blasting a "stty -extproc" fixes line-break and tab
> problems when logged in to an NS box from random places. What I don't know is
> what it actually *does*. I haven't found any mention of it in a cursory look
> at man pages and other documentation.
from man stty(1):
-extproc process characters external to the terminal
driver. This option is used when there is a loss
of characters or improper handling of special
characters (e.g., carriage returns and line feeds)
during a telnet(1C) session from a non-NEXTSTEP
local host to a NEXTSTEP remote host.
Yes, I'm sure many will point out the irony of me showing someone an entry
from the man page, I just offer it as proof that I _do_ read them
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma (Formerly known as: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu)
New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
*** Please note: the new address cannot read the 'reply-to' line ***
From: schildw@infoac.rmi.de (Christian Schildwaechter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Large File System ?
Date: 7 Jun 1996 13:16:37 GMT
Organization: greenHAUS
Message-ID: <4p9a3l$gra@fuchur.rmi.de>
References: <4p1nfo$pg@athena.ulaval.ca>
Cc: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca
In <4p1nfo$pg@athena.ulaval.ca> Antoine Gautier wrote:
> Could someone explain what the preferences.app option
>
> Unix -- Large File System
>
> does, and when to turn it on?
It shortens the time it takes to display folders with a great
number of
files in them, while slowing down the opening of directories
with only
a few entries. Why, I forgot.
So whether you should turn it on or off depends on the number
of
files in four filesystem.
Christian
---
Christian Schildwaechter schildw@infoac.rmi.de
Rosstr. 38-40 http://greenHAUS.ros.AC-Net.de/
52064 Aachen/Germany (+49)241-2800- 2(voice/am)/3(fax)
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: offline news and mail reader app(s) for OS
Date: 7 Jun 1996 13:32:29 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4p9b1d$13t@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <4p6vmv$glp@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960606155616.3435A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<4p8d6o$d8@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960607085116.6639B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Cc: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
In <Pine.NXT.3.93.960607085116.6639B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" wrote:
> On 7 Jun 1996, Art Isbell wrote:
> > I certainly wouldn't characterize POP as ideal for a multiuser
UNIX
> > system like NS because POP lumps all mail intended for a POP account
into a
> > single mail spool file. So if you have 10 NS accounts, you'd need 10
> > different POP accounts, something most ISPs won't provide, at least
without
> > an extra charge.
>
>
> I would quite agree that if you are talking about multi-users, then POP
> isn't what you want.... Sorry, I have a tendency to forget that some are
> dealing with many more computers than I am....
Some ISPs offer a hacked POP that groups all mail for a site into a single
mailbox. They should also offer a program to feed this back into your
mail system :-). One of our local ISPs does this.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk
Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems
Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: schildw@infoac.rmi.de (Christian Schildwaechter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
Date: 7 Jun 1996 14:02:42 GMT
Organization: greenHAUS
Message-ID: <4p9cq2$gra@fuchur.rmi.de>
References: <4oa9dn$4c@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <4of2tv$gji@www.mci.com>
<4of9cc$58b@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <4oiakc$7g7@gaea.titan.org>
In <4oiakc$7g7@gaea.titan.org> Ken Case wrote:
> ROB PARKHILL (rparkhil@bnr.ca) wrote:
> > While I agree that I desperately need more RAM, [...]
>
> Last week, memory was the cheapest it had ever been (32MB
SIMMs were
> available for under $300). Take advantage of the price
while it
> lasts!
>
> > I'll admit that the only way to fix this problem is going
to be by
> > adding more RAM to my system, but it's a web-browser for
heavens
> > sake. It shouldn't be hogging those kinds of
resources...
>
> Perhaps it would help if you thought of the web browser as
an database
> client which hits a nearly-infinite-and-perpetually-growing
database,
> usually loading a new unique page each time the user does
anything
> (although if returning to an old page they expect it to be
displayed
> nearly instantly), and capable of doing quite complicated
page layout
> involving many different types of documents (including
images from a
> wide variety of image formats).
>
> It must support many different server protocols--including
several
> different ways of dynamically updating the content--and
able to pass
> anything it doesn't handle on to other applications.
>
> It must support a bunch of different mechanisms for letting
the user
> pass information back to the server, being completely
programmable
> with buttons, text fields, clickable image maps, and so
on--and still
> be able to continue in the face of programming errors.
>
> It should handle irregular (and often downright bad) input
generated
> by hand by humans, not just good documents generated by
programs.
> (Imagine if Microsoft Word let you give it an input file
with random
> control sequences reedited by humans to no longer be in the
correct
> form, and still usually displayed what was intended!)
>
> Also, it should be capable of doing all these things at
once in
> multiple threads, since the user wants to be able to
continue doing
> work while the various tasks are communicating with
servers, parsing
> html, rendering images, laying out tables, etc.
>
> A web browser is really about 9 programs rolled into one (I
haven't
> even mentioned the bookmarking and search and editing tools
yet, and
> I'm probably forgetting another dozen pieces). We're
working on
> making our web browser faster, but it shouldn't be at all
surprising
> that it uses more memory than applications which typically
manipulate
> one (or maybe even a few!) documents at a time--as opposed
to
> processing several documents simultaneously (remember,
every inline
> image is a separate server document) and moving on to load
several new
> ones each time a link is followed.
This still does not explain why it takes 4-11 minutes to
render a page consisting
of only five lines of text. Your argument is that OmniWeb has
to care about a lot
of possible problems, but in this case everything should be
fine.
I really like OmniWeb and I just upgraded from 16 to 32 MB
mainly to speed this
app. But I cannot understand what is so memory consuming in
the SGML2RTF
conversion that if forces the OS to permanently swap. Maybe
the conversion
part is a big one-for-all engine, but iI think this is not a
clever way to do this.
Although I do not really have an idea how to do it best a
smaller convertion engine
kernel for the main demands might be better.
Something like: check for problems first and than decide
wheter to take the bike
or the tank.
Christian
--
Christian Schildwaechter schildw@infoac.rmi.de
Rosstr. 38-40 http://greenHAUS.ros.AC-Net.de/
52064 Aachen/Germany (+49)241-2800- 2(voice/am)/3(fax)
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: offline news and mail reader app(s) for OS
Date: 7 Jun 1996 14:25:52 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Message-ID: <4p9e5g$jg2@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <4p6vmv$glp@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960606155616.3435A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu) wrote:
> Reading news offline is more difficult. Last I heard one had to use
> something called 'slurp' which was much too complex for my simple brain...
> If you find a way, I'd love to hear it.
Slurp in itself is not difficult, not is it difficult to set up.
It uses NNTP to "slurp in" (hence the name) all articles that have
arrived at the news host after a certain time, usually the time of
the last slurp access.
However, using slurp requires that you have a complete news
system running on your site (including article expiration).
I never could get the setup right, so I finally gave up.
One last note: slurp is quite inefficient. If you can, us
slurp on a remote host, then pack the articles by using
tar and gzip, and ftp the files home. Saves connection time
(which we Europeans unfortunatly have to pay for dearly).
Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.."
// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
// +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: pjpeg or png from tiff or gif or jpeg
Date: 7 Jun 1996 17:03:05 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4p9nc9$aae@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4p7lfe$jnf@miwok.nbn.com>
In-Reply-To: <4p7lfe$jnf@miwok.nbn.com>
On 06/07/96, Daniel Miles Kehoe wrote:
> For my Web site I'd like to use progressive jpeg (pjpeg) or the new png
> graphics format as an alternative to the gif graphics format.
>
> Under NEXTSTEP 3.3 (black), what can I use to convert to pjpeg or png from
> tiff or gif or jpeg?
>
There are a range of options: take a looke at
http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FaxDriver for USRSportster Faxmodem
Date: 7 Jun 1996 17:01:00 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Message-ID: <4p9n8c$14dg@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <4p1rqf$geq@sail.leverkusen.netsurf.de> <31B71456.3A8A@mpr.ca>
Scott Mewett (mewett@mpr.ca) wrote:
: JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de wrote:
: >
: > How can we all get a driver? email to USRobotics? email to NXFax? Perhaps everyone who wants to fax with his Sportster should post a news to this forum and say
: >
: > So if anybody is willing to create a driver - do it, I will pay the shareware-price!
: >
:
: Hi am very interested in one as well. count me in for a one.
:
Try current releases of mgetty+sendfax (like 0.99). It sports NeXT
support, so to say, although I did not attempt to use it myself on NeXT.
I can tell that it works with USRobotics on other machines.
--mj
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: stty -extproc: what does it do?
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <Dsn1xJ.6nt@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:32:07 GMT
References: <DsLz0s.EBG@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960607085817.6639C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <Pine.NXT.3.93.960607085817.6639C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>,
Timothy J. Luoma <476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu> wrote:
>
>On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, David Evans wrote:
>
>> I've found out that blasting a "stty -extproc" fixes line-break and tab
>> problems when logged in to an NS box from random places. What I don't know is
>> what it actually *does*. I haven't found any mention of it in a cursory look
>> at man pages and other documentation.
>
>from man stty(1):
>
...
It's not in the 3.2 man pages, so anyone who thinks I'm just really dumb
can't use this episode to build their case. :-)
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: shell script to compute .ps BoundingBox?
Date: 7 Jun 1996 20:07:33 GMT
Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada
Message-ID: <4pa265$qje@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
I'm looking for a shell script to compute and return the bounding box
of a postscript figure.
I'm familiar with bbfig, but this uses the printer to calculate the
bbox and I need this information available in the script. Adobe has
something called epsinfo.ps which is supposed to return a result
on the printer channel (whatever that means), but my attempt to use it
gave 'Due to a PostScript language error, some or all of the pages ...
could not be printed', presumably because it is uses PS features
disliked by the NeXT.
Any sugestions?
--
Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (NeXTmail
OK)
Psychology Department
York University Voice: 416 736-5118
4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html
Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: lost pointer to NeXTStep/Java company webpage
Date: 7 Jun 1996 21:43:49 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <4pa7ql$qtv@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
References: <4ovvp7$coe@lol.cs.columbia.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4ovvp7$coe@lol.cs.columbia.edu>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
On 06/03/96, Tobias Hoellerer wrote:
>
>
>Hi everybody,
>
>A couple of weeks ago I found a webpage where a company
>that had started offering NeXTStep solutions quite a
>few years ago displayed their current work:
> GUI objects, realized as Java applets.
The Company you are referring to is the very cool Stone Design:
http://www.stone.com/
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: shell script to compute .ps BoundingBox?
Date: 7 Jun 1996 22:15:36 GMT
Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC.
Message-ID: <4pa9m8$93q@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>
References: <4pa265$qje@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca>
Cc: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca
In <4pa265$qje@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Michael Friendly wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a shell script to compute and return the bounding box
> of a postscript figure.
>
> I'm familiar with bbfig, but this uses the printer to calculate the
> bbox and I need this information available in the script. Adobe has
> something called epsinfo.ps which is supposed to return a result
> on the printer channel (whatever that means), but my attempt to use it
> gave 'Due to a PostScript language error, some or all of the pages ...
> could not be printed', presumably because it is uses PS features
> disliked by the NeXT.
>
> Any sugestions?
>
(In a script) build a little PS-File containing the following:
%!PS
(/path/to/epsfinfo.ps) run
Adobe_EPSF /initialize get exec
(/path/to/YourFile.ps) run
quit
and feed it to 'pft', (see man pft) and on stdout you should get something
like
%%DocumentFonts: Palatino-BoldItalic (or whatever)
%%+Palatino-Roman
%%BoundingBox: 0 212 421 462
Hope this helps
Frank
--
Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page
http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank
NeXTSTEP, Linux & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C
ga ga"
From: scollarw@cadvision.com (guzzibill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsFlash posting issue
Date: 8 Jun 1996 05:43:46 GMT
Organization: CADVision
Message-ID: <4pb3ui$33ik@elmo.cadvision.com>
References: <4p40db$ood@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
In-Reply-To: <4p40db$ood@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
>
>Article not posted -- more included text than new text
>
>Why would NewFlash find it necessary to limit my posting to only
>messages in which I have typed more than I have included?
>--
>
perhaps they are trying to encourage a larger SIGNAL
to
NOISE ratio?
--
Bill Scollard
Calgary, Canada
MotoGuzzi - California III || NeXT Turbo Colour
Software AG - Natural || OmniWeb & the NET
BackGammon / Poker / skiing || Marriage & Kids
=====> What more could there possbibly be!<======
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: pjpeg or png from tiff or gif or jpeg
Date: 8 Jun 1996 06:45:50 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University
Message-ID: <4pb7iu$lip@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>
References: <4p7lfe$jnf@miwok.nbn.com>
Daniel Miles Kehoe (kehoe@fortuity.com) wrote:
: For my Web site I'd like to use progressive jpeg (pjpeg) or the new png
: graphics format as an alternative to the gif graphics format.
: Under NEXTSTEP 3.3 (black), what can I use to convert to pjpeg or png from
: tiff or gif or jpeg?
THE png-archive is ftp://swrinde.nde.swri.edu/pub/png/..... One way
to go is the pnmtopng toolset. It will convert your .ppm's, so in
combination with netpbm or PBMplus, you can handle most graphics
formats.
Especially because of the special NeXT TIFF formats and to perserve
the alpha channel that both NeXT and PNG can use, I recently wrote
tiff2png, which you can find at /pub/png/applications from above
mentioned server.
Another option is gif2png also from the swri-archive, but IMO you
shouldn't start with the "limited" gif capabilities like only 256
colors.
Have a look too at http://mht3.gintic.ntu.ac.sg:8000/pngsuite.html and
http://mht3.gintic.ntu.ac.sg:8000/wwwillem.html for PingPong a NeXT
native PNG viewer.
Willem
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: offline news and mail reader app(s) for OS
Date: 8 Jun 1996 12:19:56 GMT
Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main
Message-ID: <4pbr5c$hk@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <4p6vmv$glp@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960606155616.3435A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4p9e5g$jg2@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) wrote:
> Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu) wrote:
>
> > Reading news offline is more difficult. Last I heard one had to use
> > something called 'slurp' which was much too complex for my simple
> > brain...
> > If you find a way, I'd love to hear it.
>
> Slurp in itself is not difficult, not is it difficult to set up.
> It uses NNTP to "slurp in" (hence the name) all articles that have
> arrived at the news host after a certain time, usually the time of
> the last slurp access.
>
> However, using slurp requires that you have a complete news
> system running on your site (including article expiration).
> I never could get the setup right, so I finally gave up.
I just want to mention that in a few days, v1.0 of PersonalINN will be
submitted to ftp servers.
PersonalINN is a complete news system for personal use based on INN. It gets
rid of all the parts of INN not needed for personal use, but on the other
hand incorporates slurp and a few more of its kind which are needed for
personal needs.
Everything is precompiled and adjusted to one another; it is a handy NEXTSTEP
kg-file which will install on double click. All you have to do is to edit a
few config files (very simple).
PersonalINN is described in extensive detail (some 30 pages) in NEXTTOYOU so
that you can understand the mechanisms of INN behind it. Unfortunately, since
NEXTTOYOU is a German magazine, it may not be of use for many of you. But at
least a short installation description in English is included in the
distribution.
Bye
Uli
--
_____________________________________________________________________
Uli Zappe
Lorscher Strasse 5
D-60489 Frankfurt
Germany
Phone: +49 (69) 9784 0007
E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail - Mime - ASCII)
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Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
_____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jens@ipc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: Backup Hardware and Software
Message-ID: <DsoBFL.9uM@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
References: <4p7362$sme@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU>
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 08:54:57 GMT
Kin Hung Au writes
> Do anyone know any backup hardware and software which can backup
NeXT, SUN,
> Mac and Window machine?
>
Not that way, think about binary compatibility!
> I would like to use Solistice Backup 4.2 on Sparc Server. However,
it
> doesn't support NeXT platform. Is it anyway we can backup NeXT
using
> Solistice 4.2?
If it supports NFS mounted directories you could simply mount the
NeXT filesystem.
Or use SafetyNet and do it vc. vs., mount the other stuff NFS on
the NeXT and SafetyNet PRO will back it up.
so long,
jens ch. gloede
__ _________________________________________________________
interpersonal-computing Imagination. Made in Europe.
NeXT Center Munich http://www.ipc.de/
E-Mail: jens@ipc.de NeXT & MIME Mail ok (int.< 1 MB)
From: bmont@rconnect.com (Bruce Montegani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SIGHT-C-ING2 software-Where????
Date: 7 Jun 1996 16:25:15 GMT
Organization: Minnesota Regional Network (MRNet)
Message-ID: <4p9l5b$6jj@news.mr.net>
I'm looking for anyone who purchased the SIGHT-C-ING software from
Hypersight.
Please confirm that company has folded.
Does anyone know where the source for the product is?
Does anyone have a license string that I could use to further evaluate how
the product works?
Thanks
Bruce Montegani
From: nettech@crl.com (Joseph W. Stroup)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Web (Netscape Questions)
Date: 8 Jun 1996 19:55:28 -0700
Organization: CRL Network Services (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest]
Message-ID: <4pdef0$2cp@crl.crl.com>
Does the Netscape server & browser work under NExt 3.2 O/S ?
Whats the deal witht their web software ?
--
Joseph Stroup
" I don't work for the Cable Company.
From: rjackson@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:46:45 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Message-ID: <rjackson.37.31BB6264@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
References: <4oa9dn$4c@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <4of2tv$gji@www.mci.com> <4p9cq2$gra@fuchur.rmi.de>
In article <4p9cq2$gra@fuchur.rmi.de> schildw@infoac.rmi.de (Christian Schildwaechter) writes:
>Path: magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!oleane!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!Aachen.Germany.EU.net!rmi.de!root
>From: schildw@infoac.rmi.de (Christian Schildwaechter)>Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
>Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2
>Date: 7 Jun 1996 14:02:42 GMT
>Organization: greenHAUS
>Lines: 109
>Message-ID: <4p9cq2$gra@fuchur.rmi.de>
>References: <4oa9dn$4c@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <4of2tv$gji@www.mci.com>
> <4of9cc$58b@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <4oiakc$7g7@gaea.titan.org>
>Reply-To: schildw@infoac.rmi.de (Christian Schildwaechter)
>NNTP-Posting-Host: greenhaus.ros.ac-net.de
>X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.6 Beta(i)
>In <4oiakc$7g7@gaea.titan.org> Ken Case wrote:
>> ROB PARKHILL (rparkhil@bnr.ca) wrote:
>> > While I agree that I desperately need more RAM, [...]
>>
>> Last week, memory was the cheapest it had ever been (32MB
>SIMMs were
>> available for under $300). Take advantage of the price
>while it
>> lasts!
Where does one find 32MB SIMMS for under $300?
>>
>--
>Christian Schildwaechter schildw@infoac.rmi.de
>Rosstr. 38-40 http://greenHAUS.ros.AC-Net.de/
>52064 Aachen/Germany (+49)241-2800- 2(voice/am)/3(fax)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell)
Subject: Re: SLIP configuration on NeXTstation
Message-ID: <DsqvB0.62G@euler.han.de>
Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell)
Organization: Ink Unknown
References: <4ntb9c$phh@core.bard.edu>
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 17:59:23 GMT
Noel Bush writes
> I am attempting to configure a NeXTstation to be able to use a SLIP
> interface so that I can dial up a remote server. I have downloaded the
> DialupIP package, and configured the setup files correctly, so that
> typing "connect" will dial the server and apparently establish a SLIP
> connection. But this does not seem to be enough, because none of the
> apps (OmniWeb, NewsGrazer, Ping, etc.) or shell commands (finger, telnet,
> etc.) will work.
>
> Can someone tell me what I am missing in my configuration, or point me to
> some online documentation about setting this up? I have been unable to
> locate any help via various search engines.
Have you rebooted to load the kernel mod?
Juergen
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= when a politician's idea of social change is changing names
= when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 10 Jun 1996 04:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4pg7ge$nms@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
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===========================================
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
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To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
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=============
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(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
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=====================================
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Written by:
Eric P. Scott (mailto:eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU) and
Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: stefanos@Vir.com (Stefanos Kiakas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: TIFFANY and Kodak PhotoCD
Date: 7 Jun 1996 17:54:33 -0400
Organization: Communications Vir, Internet Access Montreal.
Message-ID: <4pa8ep$4po@Vir.com>
Hello,
I have two Kodak PhotoCD's to which I had transfered 1 roll of
film. I recently added another roll of film to each. NeXTSTEP mounts the
Kodak PhotoCD and I can view the first 36 frames from the first film on
the CD, but I can't see the 2nd roll.
I assume this works like a partitioned hard disk, the first
partition is mounted automaticallyi, the next one must be mounted manually.
How do I mount the second part of the Kodak Photo CD to see the pictures
from the second film? What device device should I use?
Or how do I get TIFFanyII to read the second roll of film
written on the Kodak PhotoCD?
Any help would be appreciated,
stef
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e-Scape Information Systems Inc. Canada --> http://www.uniscape.com
stefanos@uniscape.com (NeXTMail OK) NeXTStep Driver Info
+1 (514) 729 9643 NeXTStep Driver Information URL
http://www.uniscape.com/NSDrivers
From: Andreas <anch@logiball.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenWrite - import
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:01:16 +0200
Organization: Customer of EUnet Germany; Info: info@Germany.EU.net
Message-ID: <31BC0E8C.6E88@logiball.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Im trying to import a Word for Win95 - document in OpenWrite, but it
tells me something about a not installed ascii-filter for my
architecture (NeXTStation Turbo).
Does somebody know what`s the problem ?
Thanks
Andreas
From: schildw@infoac.rmi.de (Christian Schildwaechter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] How to display/print an NS PostScript file on a Mac?
Date: 10 Jun 1996 13:20:49 GMT
Organization: greenHAUS
Message-ID: <4ph7fh$smk@fuchur.rmi.de>
References: <DsBs5x.991@midway.uchicago.edu> <jbf-0206961004200001@frazer.com>
Cc: jbf@frazer.com
In <jbf-0206961004200001@frazer.com> James B. Frazer wrote:
> In article <DsBs5x.991@midway.uchicago.edu>, yoshida@fermi.bsd.uchicago.edu (Hiro Yoshida) wrote:
>
> > Could anyone know how to display and print a NeXT's PostScript file on a
> > Machintosh?
>
> I don't know of any "free" (ot commercial) tool for viewing PS on a Mac.
> There probably is one but ... As for downloading, there are several tools
> for downloading the file - for example, the HP Utility supplied with the
> 4MP, or "LaserStatus" from the archives. If the Mac is on ethernet with the
> NeXT, you can use lpDaemon from the archives to create a Unix style print
> server and just send the file over from the NeXT print panel. There's a
> NeXT Answer on this, and it's also discussed in the SysAdmin manual (I
> think). Works for me!
>
> Barney
I didn't see the initial posting, so maybe I'm missing something here (for example,
whether your printer is postscript compatible (4MP) or not).
Ghostscript is available (for free) for MacOS (the last version I've seen was 2.58) and
I guess ghostView too.You should be able to view and print with these.
Christian
--
Christian Schildwaechter schildw@infoac.rmi.de
Rosstr. 38-40 http://greenHAUS.ros.AC-Net.de/
52064 Aachen/Germany (+49)241-2800- 2(voice/am)/3(fax)
From: Andreas <anch@logiball.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OpenWrite - import
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:02:37 +0200
Organization: Customer of EUnet Germany; Info: info@Germany.EU.net
Message-ID: <31BC0EDD.76CB@logiball.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Im trying to import a Word for Win95 - document in OpenWrite, but it
tells me something about a not installed ascii-filter for my
architecture (NeXTStation Turbo).
Does somebody know what`s the problem ?
Thanks
Andreas
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: stty -extproc: what does it do?
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:46:32 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960610094025.2262A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <DsLz0s.EBG@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960607085817.6639C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <Dsn1xJ.6nt@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca>
In-Reply-To: <Dsn1xJ.6nt@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
> >
> >from man stty(1):
> >
>
> ...
>
> It's not in the 3.2 man pages, so anyone who thinks I'm just really dumb
> can't use this episode to build their case. :-)
Well I've been bitten by that sort of thing before, and been abused for
not reading the man pages before, so I will build no case. In fact, I
think that someone told me about -extproc and I couldn't figure out what
it did (when I was on a 3.2 system). I quoted the man page from 3.3....
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma (Formerly known as: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu)
New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
*** Please note: the new address cannot read the 'reply-to' line ***
From: humanist@interport.net (Michael Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: where to buy NextStep-student
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:50:44 -0400
Organization: Humanist Movement
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <humanist-1006961450440001@ts3port26.port.net>
I've been looking everywhere for someone selling NextStep student edition
and can't find it. Any pointers for a place with good prices?
--
Michael Howard
humanist@interport.net
http://www.interport.net/~humanist
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Installing pkg with Installer
Date: 10 Jun 1996 17:41:01 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <4phmnd$9f@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
I tried to install a pkg with Installer.app and got the following error:
Installing XX.pkg in /User/joe/Apps ...
stdin: not in compressed format
**** During installation of XX.pkg errors occurred.
... error.
I tried to decompress and untar the pkg by hand and it worked properly. I
had no problems at all.
I tried several different pkg and got the same error. Even with pkg I have
had installed before.
So, I think there is no problem with the packages but with the
installer.app.
I also installed the installer.app again but with no change.
What is going wrong?
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
Juergen Grieb ** 72119 Ammerbuch/Germany ** Tel. +7073 - 5118
e-mail: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail and Mime welcome
PGP-Key is available (please request it, so mail exchange will be safe)
From: stimpy@sojourn1.sojourn.com (gcl)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: where to buy NextStep-student
Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 10 Jun 1996 22:19:51 GMT
Organization: Sojourn Systems Ltd.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4pi727$cpv@tkhut.sojourn.com>
References: <humanist-1006961450440001@ts3port26.port.net>
Michael Howard (humanist@interport.net) wrote:
: I've been looking everywhere for someone selling NextStep student edition
: and can't find it. Any pointers for a place with good prices?
800-331-5489
Diskovery Educational Systems.
I bought mine from them 8-)
Gary
--
________________________________________________________________
gcl@sojourn.com NeXTmail/LipService is prefered
Founder: The NeXTstep for Intel Processors HomeBrew Mailing List
Owner: Network with a NeXT '040 Cube #4173 running NeXTstep v3.3
and a Intel i486dx2-66 running NeXTstep for Intel v3.3
_________________________________________________________________
From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Real Audio server ?
Date: 10 Jun 1996 17:12:28 GMT
Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736)
Message-ID: <4phl1s$f5l$4@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>
Is Real Audio server compiled under NSI V 3.3 ?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards.
Yves Pons.
Email : 100321.1674@compuserve.com
Fax: +33 85-48-97-19
From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Video conference ?
Date: 10 Jun 1996 17:11:49 GMT
Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736)
Message-ID: <4phl0l$f5l$3@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>
Is there some video-conference products for NS for Intel V 3.3 ?
Freeware, Shareware,
Commercial ?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards.
Yves Pons.
Email : 100321.1674@compuserve.com
Fax: +33 85-48-97-19
From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: VRML builder ?
Date: 10 Jun 1996 17:11:06 GMT
Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736)
Message-ID: <4phkva$f5l$2@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>
Is there some graphical JAVA builder like Interface Builder ?
Freeware, Shareware,
Commercial ?
Is there some graphical VRML builder like Interface Builder ?
Freeware, Shareware,
Commercial ?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards.
Yves Pons.
Email : 100321.1674@compuserve.com
Fax: +33 85-48-97-19
From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PGP ?
Date: 10 Jun 1996 17:09:59 GMT
Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736)
Message-ID: <4phkt7$f5l$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>
Is there a version of PGP phone available for NeXTStep V 3.3 ?
Thanks in advance .
Best regards.
Yves Pons.
From: Dino Bagdadi <dino@ex-nihilo.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TIFFANY and Kodak PhotoCD
Date: 10 Jun 1996 23:38:37 GMT
Organization: Shadow Information Services, Inc.
Message-ID: <4piblt$qku@viper.shadow.net>
References: <4pa8ep$4po@Vir.com>
Cc: stefanos@Vir.com
In <4pa8ep$4po@Vir.com> Stefanos Kiakas wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have two Kodak PhotoCD's to which I had transfered 1 roll of
> film. I recently added another roll of film to each. NeXTSTEP mounts the
> Kodak PhotoCD and I can view the first 36 frames from the first film on
> the CD, but I can't see the 2nd roll.
>
> I assume this works like a partitioned hard disk, the first
> partition is mounted automaticallyi, the next one must be mounted manually.
> How do I mount the second part of the Kodak Photo CD to see the pictures
> from the second film? What device device should I use?
Multi-Session CD's are not supported by NEXTSTEP (of any flavor). There used
to be a company (forgot the name) that made the necessary driver as part of
their document processing (scanning/OCR/storing) solution, but you'd also
have to use a CD-ROM player that supported Multi-Session CD-ROMs. BTW, NeXT's
CD-ROM player doesn't support Multi-Session CD-ROMs.
> Or how do I get TIFFanyII to read the second roll of film
> written on the Kodak PhotoCD?
TIFFany's can't read Multi-Session CD-ROMs. But it can handle Photo CD Pro
CD-ROMs.
> Any help would be appreciated,
Tell NeXT to support this!
--
Dino Bagdadi
ex nihilo, inc.
dino@ex-nihilo.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME)
Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@hyper.shadow.net'
From: john@gscorp.com (John C. Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TIFFANY and Kodak PhotoCD
Date: 11 Jun 1996 03:18:03 GMT
Organization: Sirius Connections
Message-ID: <4piohb$ef8@sun.sirius.com>
References: <4pa8ep$4po@Vir.com>
Cc: stefanos@Vir.com
> Or how do I get TIFFanyII to read the second roll of film
> written on the Kodak PhotoCD?
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated,
>
> stef
>
Hi There:
Unless someone knows otherwise, I think you're out of luck here. There is no
operating system level support in NEXTSTEP for mulitisession CD ROMS, which
is is what you need.
Sorry,
John
john@gscorp.com
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NewsFlash posting issue
Date: 11 Jun 1996 06:52:53 GMT
Organization: Best Internet Communications
Message-ID: <4pj545$3mm@nntp1.best.com>
References: <4p40db$ood@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960605102356.3258A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4p515t$acf@digifix.digifix.com>
In-Reply-To: <4p515t$acf@digifix.digifix.com>
On 06/05/96, Scott Anguish wrote:
> Its quite possible that its not Newsflash that is doing it,
>but that your news server is set up to police that. It is an option
>in INN. You'll need to appeal to your sysadmin..
>
> I've posted using Newsflash quotes that were larger than the
>additions (this message as an example!)
Scott's quite right... this is a message being returned by your NNTP server not
your newsreader.
Chris
--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh)
Subject: When NS4.0?
Message-ID: <Dsu46I.1y2@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Organization: Johns Hopkins Continuing Professional Programs
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:03:54 GMT
When is NS4.0 going to be released? I thought the schedule called for
2Q96 availability. Also, what is the status on OPENSTEP on Sun and DEC?
Has NeXT's support of Windows NT soured Sun on NeXT? Any info would
be appreciated.
Tim
--
Tim Pugh |MicroCALL Services
tim@aplcenmp.apl.JHU.EDU |8713 Briarcroft Lane
|Laurel, MD 20708-1355
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From: akwan@elcocomp.com (Al Kwan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Infodisk500 Software: Low-Cost Software to start up your own business: simple, effective and fun.
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 17:08:49 GMT
Organization: Central News Services
Message-ID: <4pk8tp$sn5@hermes.oanet.com>
Infodisk500. It is only one 3.5" diskette with literally hundreds of
ideas and ways for you to start up your own business. It has ideas
stretching from the Internet, to setting up your own bbs, to mail
order business to computer business and a whole lot more. Even if you
decide not to use the ideas on the disk to help you start up a
business, you can be quite fulfilled just by looking at the variety of
information it has on it. In today's day and age, information and
knowledge are the most powerful tools you can have to accomplish
whatever dreams you have in life. Basically, to order the disk, send
$9.00 for shipping & handling or emailing it (1.3MB) to:
E & A Enterprises
P.O. Box 155
12855 - 97 Street
Edmonton, Alberta
T5E 4C3
From: adam@firepower.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Win95 keyboard definition
Date: 11 Jun 1996 17:44:18 GMT
Organization: FirePower Systems, Inc.
Message-ID: <4pkb9i$ebq@enquirer.firepower.com>
Has anybody created a keyboard definition (a .keyboard file) for the
keyboard that has the extra Windows 95 keys?
Adam Krolnik
Design Verification Engineer
FirePower Systems, Inc.
Menlo Park, CA. 94025
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: TIFFANY and Kodak PhotoCD
Date: 11 Jun 1996 20:39:52 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <4pklio$2s2@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
References: <4pa8ep$4po@Vir.com>
In-Reply-To: <4pa8ep$4po@Vir.com>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
On 06/07/96, Stefanos Kiakas wrote:
> I can view the first 36 frames from the first film on
> the CD, but I can't see the 2nd roll.
This is a problem with NEXTSTEP OS 3.x. It can only
handle "single-session" PhotoCD. To resolve this
problem, you need to buy a driver
called CDXA. I included the address below. Make sure
your CD-ROM is included in their support list, but
mine (Apple/MATSHITA) was not and still worked.
Here is the contact info:
CDXA Driver
Price DM 48,- (Deutschmarks)
Uwe Tilemann
Tools GmbH
Adolfstr. 5
D-53111 Bonn
GERMANY
Phone: +49 0228 98580-0
Fax: +49 0228 98580-17
Email: ut@Tools.DE (NeXTmail/MIME)
WWW: http://www.Tools.DE/
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: enright@mtkg58.fnbc.com (Paul J. Enright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: launching Preview in simple mode
Date: 11 Jun 1996 17:27:17 GMT
Organization: First Chicago NBD Corporation, Chicago IL, USA
Message-ID: <4pka9l$btc@news.cmg.fcnbd.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
anyone know if it's possible to setup Preview.app so that it defaults
to "simple mode" ? i routinely deal with postscript files which need to
be opened this way, so i have to open the app and then use file open
with the simple mode box checked.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler)
Subject: Re: offline news and mail reader app(s) for OS
Message-ID: <DsuBF7.7C@luck.shnet.org>
Sender: news@luck.shnet.org
References: <4p6vmv$glp@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960606155616.3435A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4p9e5g$jg2@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <4pbr5c$hk@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 14:40:19 GMT
uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote:
>I just want to mention that in a few days, v1.0 of PersonalINN will be
>submitted to ftp servers.
Besides installation, will it have any advantages over a running C-News
system?
Christian
From: erbalch@adnc.com (Eric R. Balch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: gs for next/i386?
Date: 12 Jun 1996 03:02:15 GMT
Organization: adnc.com
Message-ID: <4plbvn$m3p@taurus.adnc.com>
References: <4osu3m$35h@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <DsLv6M.18H@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Cc: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp
Actually the name of the product you are looking for is eXTRAPRINT for
whatever canon printer you want to use. The product _IS_ from GS Corp.
http://www.gscorp.com
It is a fairly good product. I am using it with a BJC-600 printer...
Although there are still a few bugs in the software the output is
outstanding!
Hope this helps!
- Eric
In <DsLv6M.18H@papageno.rim.or.jp> Hiroshi TOMARU wrote:
> In article <4osu3m$35h@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S.
> Wong) writes:
> : Is there a gs "ghostscript" for NeXT/i386 compiled. I need it
> : to use on my Canon printer for printing.
> :
>
> Contact Canon. Canon sells a printer driver for NEXTSTEP INTEL.
> The driver handles BJC-400J, BJC-600J, etc.
>
> When the driver release was delayed in late 1994, I compiled
> gs to use my BJC-600J bubble jet color printer in NEXTSTEP
> 3.2J INTEL. With a few modification in the configuration file
> I could print via /dev/pp0 necessarily in the monochrome
> mode. The quality of printing was not totally bad, but the
> lack of the busy control caused character/line missing in
> printing a large ps file. And a small lower part of every
> character was always missing.
>
> I am totally ignorant of the current development of gs. But
> from my experience, I recommend you to buy the printer
> driver. It will cost you about $150US. If you are using
> BJC-600J and preferring to try gs, please mail me.
> ---
> Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji
> hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB)
>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: peter@bandit.ruhr.de (Peter Rossbach)
Subject: Re: FaxDriver for USRSportster Faxmodem
Message-ID: <Dsq7ot.t3@bandit.ruhr.de>
Keywords: USRSportster, fax
Sender: usenet@bandit.ruhr.de
Organization: Peter Rossbach
References: <31B71456.3A8A@mpr.ca>
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 09:29:17 GMT
In article <31B71456.3A8A@mpr.ca> Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca> writes:
> JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de wrote:
> >
> > How can we all get a driver? email to USRobotics? email to NXFax?
Perhaps everyone who wants to fax with his Sportster should post a news to
this forum and say
> >
> > So if anybody is willing to create a driver - do it, I will pay the
shareware-price!
> >
>
> Hi am very interested in one as well. count me in for a one.
>
> --
> Scott Mewett
> MPR Teltech Ltd. Burnaby, BC
> mewett@mpr.ca ACSII Only
> mewett@planeteer.com NeXTMail Welcome
It is a shame that NeXT not distribute a fax driver like hylafax and that
no pd package exists.
I try a next porting step for hylafax on Openstep 4.0. I hope NeXT fix the
posix bugs.
Regards
Peter
e-mail peter@bandit.ruhr.de
From: edx@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PGP ?
Message-ID: <1996Jun11.082915.81688@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 11 Jun 96 08:29:15 MDT
References: <4phkt7$f5l$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>
Organization: Utah State University
In article <4phkt7$f5l$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>, Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> writes:
> Is there a version of PGP phone available for NeXTStep V 3.3 ?
The distribution release from MIT compiles on a NeXT (either big
endian or little-endian) out of the box.
- HRC -
From: m277665@seix6 (markus.rohner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: Bar code application?
Date: 12 Jun 1996 12:21:48 GMT
Organization: Genossenschaft Migros St. Gallen, Gossau SG, Switzerland
Message-ID: <4pmcos$2mc@newsser1.gmsg.ch>
Does anybody know of a software (freeware or commercial),
which can generate bar codes?
It should work more or less in the following way:
1. Choosing the code type (EAN-8, EAN-13, EAN-128, Interleaved 2 out 5,
Code 39)
2. Giving the code
3. and then the software should show the bar code (preferably as
a tiff-icon, which can be dragged and dropped into
e.g. FrameMaker.)
Thanks.
--
Markus Rohner
Methodik/Infrastruktur
Genossenschaft Migros St. Gallen
eMail: markus.rohner@gmsg.ch (NeXTmail/MIME welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
From: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: TIFFANY and Kodak PhotoCD
Message-ID: <DsvB7n.G1v@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: news@nidat.sub.org
Cc: john@gscorp.com
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4pa8ep$4po@Vir.com> <4piohb$ef8@sun.sirius.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 03:33:23 GMT
In <4piohb$ef8@sun.sirius.com> John C. Fox wrote:
> > Or how do I get TIFFanyII to read the second roll of film
> > written on the Kodak PhotoCD?
> >
>
> Unless someone knows otherwise, I think you're out of luck here. There is
no
> operating system level support in NEXTSTEP for mulitisession CD ROMS, which
> is is what you need.
>
Single session only. Thats positively clear. You must either get all films
recorded in a single session or...
I've heard a rumor about CDROM drives that could map multisession into single
session. I never ran into such a thing, though.
--
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From: edx@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: openGL-based gnuSTEP?
Message-ID: <1996Jun11.093603.81691@cc.usu.edu>
Date: 11 Jun 96 09:36:03 MDT
Organization: Utah State University
Is there a version of gnuSTEP which uses an
openGL widget set, and can draw using openGL
in its views?
If so, where can I find this version?
- HRC -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jens@ipc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: Installing pkg with Installer
Message-ID: <DswFH7.3pA@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
References: <4phmnd$9f@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:03:07 GMT
Juergen Grieb writes
> I tried to install a pkg with Installer.app and got the following
error:
>
> Installing XX.pkg in /User/joe/Apps ...
> stdin: not in compressed format
> **** During installation of XX.pkg errors occurred.
> ... error.
> [....]
Which NS release?
Is the pkg a MAB?
more input!
so long,
jens ch. gloede
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From: jens@ipc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: Video conference ?
Message-ID: <DswFJ9.3q2@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
References: <4phl0l$f5l$3@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:04:21 GMT
Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> writes
> Is there some video-conference products for NS for Intel V 3.3 ?
> Freeware, Shareware,
> Commercial ?
NO! Nothing real.
so long,
jens ch. gloede
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Date: 12 Jun 1996 23:26:15 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4pnjmn$eln@news4.digex.net>
Can anyone tell me if the Japaneese versions of NEXTSTEP work the same as
the regular english version, if I select the english language for some
accounts and Japaneese account for others? And if I'm in an english
account, will I be able to worked with japaneese text as well...I.E. if I'm
in OmniWeb in an english account and come to a Japaneese page, will it come
up properly, or only while I'm in a Japaneese account.
Also, does anyone know when we should expect OPENSTEP 4.0J?
Thanks,
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
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From: Mario Pacheco <pacheco@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP package for NeXTSTEP?
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:10:32 -0700
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <31BFB0D8.5EA6@ix.netcom.com>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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CC: comp.sys.next.misc
I've tried to no avail to get a PPP package that comes on the NEBULA CD
to work with my system. Unfortunately it seems the package can't
negotiate a connection with the other end.
I've successfully configured NT and Win95 to work with this PPP account
but NeXTSTEP (on Intel) remains a problem. It's not a script problem, as
in being able to login because I can see a successful login in the log
file that the package generates. There many entries like the following
(I'm going on memory here; it's much more verbose):
[sent "Lots of Parameters"]
[rcvd "Many more Parameters"]
This goes on for a while, apparently the two sides are trying to
negotiate a connection. Finally it ends with "Terminating connection at
peer's request".
As I said it's not a case of wrong user ID and/or password, I'm getting
past that. It's the PPP communication/negotiation that's a problem.
The PPP package that came on the NEBULA CD states that it's an Alpha
version. The file on the CD is "PPP-2.2-0.1.9-pkg" or something
along those lines. Does anyone know where I can get a newer version? Or
an altogether different PPP package (that's known to work with Netcom)?
Any advice?
Please respond directly.
Thanks,
Mario Pacheco
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Date: 13 Jun 1996 08:00:24 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4pohqo$hht@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4pnjmn$eln@news4.digex.net>
In-Reply-To: <4pnjmn$eln@news4.digex.net>
On 06/13/96, John Kheit wrote:
> Can anyone tell me if the Japaneese versions of NEXTSTEP work the same as
> the regular english version, if I select the english language for some
> accounts and Japaneese account for others? And if I'm in an english
> account, will I be able to worked with japaneese text as well...I.E. if I'm
> in OmniWeb in an english account and come to a Japaneese page, will it come
> up properly, or only while I'm in a Japaneese account.
>
I *think* it should all "just work", but you're better wisting for a reply
from someone with more recent exsperience.
> Also, does anyone know when we should expect OPENSTEP 4.0J?
>
There is no need for one -- with 4.0, and Unicode support the code bases are
rolled into one. This is one *very* good reason (IMHO) why NeXT should stick
with NEXTSTEP: in general, operating systems' support for non-Roman script is
poor; NeXT seem to me at least to have done a much better job than most at
integrating support for 16-bit characters, and so put themsleves in a good
position to take advantage of the expanding market on the Pacific Rim.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite - import
Date: 13 Jun 1996 08:03:10 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4pohvu$hj2@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <31BC0EDD.76CB@logiball.de>
In-Reply-To: <31BC0EDD.76CB@logiball.de>
On 06/10/96, Andreas wrote:
> Im trying to import a Word for Win95 - document in OpenWrite, but it
> tells me something about a not installed ascii-filter for my
> architecture (NeXTStation Turbo).
> Does somebody know what`s the problem ?
>
Yes, you need to install the AFSFilterPackages (can't remember the proper
name offhand), available from the ftp site at peak.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Date: 13 Jun 1996 08:42:07 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4pok8v$jab@news4.digex.net>
References: <4pnjmn$eln@news4.digex.net> <4pohqo$hht@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
> On 06/13/96, John Kheit wrote:
> > Also, does anyone know when we should expect OPENSTEP 4.0J?
> >
> There is no need for one -- with 4.0, and Unicode support the code bases
are rolled into one. This is one *very* good reason (IMHO) why NeXT should
stick with NEXTSTEP: in general, operating systems' support for non-Roman
script is poor; NeXT seem to me at least to have done a much better job
than most at integrating support for 16-bit characters, and so put
themsleves in a good position to take advantage of the expanding market on
the Pacific Rim.
Hi Malcom :)
Wow, are you sure? I mean the foundation is there...but no kanji fonts are
there...or apps to take advantage....So when I view a kanji web page, I
don't see kanji text... I think that we will still need a 4.0J??? No? I
would love to be wrong on this...
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Is your computer being bugged???
Date: 13 Jun 1996 09:28:45 GMT
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From: Jacob Nielsen <jacob@dannug.dk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: offline news and mail reader app(s) for OS
Date: 11 Jun 1996 20:50:16 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <4pkm68$qn@jnext.dannug.dk>
References: <4p6vmv$glp@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960606155616.3435A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4p9e5g$jg2@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <4pbr5c$hk@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
>>>>> "Uli" == uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) writes:
Uli> PersonalINN is described in extensive detail (some 30 pages) in
Uli> NEXTTOYOU so that you can understand the mechanisms of INN behind
Uli> it. Unfortunately, since NEXTTOYOU is a German magazine, it may
Uli> not be of use for many of you. But at least a short installation
Uli> description in English is included in the distribution.
Isn't NEXTTOYOU a user group magazine? Then, perhaps the article
could be posted on the WWW or Peanuts for the benefit of those
that can read german?
Regards,
Jacob
--
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Email (NeXT, MIME and SUN) jacob@dannug.dk
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From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: openGL-based gnuSTEP?
Date: 13 Jun 1996 11:59:11 GMT
Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC.
Message-ID: <4povqf$88n@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>
References: <1996Jun11.093603.81691@cc.usu.edu>
Cc: edx@cc.usu.edu
In <1996Jun11.093603.81691@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu wrote:
> Is there a version of gnuSTEP which uses an
> openGL widget set, and can draw using openGL
> in its views?
>
> If so, where can I find this version?
>
> - HRC -
>
The current version of Mesa (a free OpenGL implementation) supports NeXTSTEP
(at least some demos). See
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~brianp/Mesa.html
for more information and the sources.
--
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From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OpenWrite - import
Date: 13 Jun 1996 13:34:14 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4pp5cm$pul@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <31BC0EDD.76CB@logiball.de> <4pohvu$hj2@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <4pohvu$hj2@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
On 06/13/96, mmalcolm crawford wrote:
> On 06/10/96, Andreas wrote:
> > Im trying to import a Word for Win95 - document in OpenWrite, but it
> > tells me something about a not installed ascii-filter for my
> > architecture (NeXTStation Turbo).
> > Does somebody know what`s the problem ?
> >
> Yes, you need to install the AFSFilterPackages (can't remember the proper
> name offhand), available from the ftp site at peak.
>
Ugh!
I think the best, if somewhat impolite, description I've seen for this sort
of thing is "brain fart".
What you want is the OpenWriteConverters, again available from various ftp
sites.
I notice that OpenWrite2.1 is now out...
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: ~/.AppInfo
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:13:33 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960612090909.2125B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Hi there.
I'm having a bad day, and so I'm posting about something that has been
very much bothering me of late...
Somewhere along the way, someone came up with the idea to have the app
files which would be placed in ~/ placed in a centralized folder called
~/.AppInfo. I saw this as yet another very smart idea. It seems like a
good way to keep my $HOME uncluttered....
I've seen a few apps lately which have ignored this idea, and that bothers
me because, well, it's there, why not use it? I don't remember what apps
they were right now, but anyway, I just wanted to mention it.
Thank you for helping to lower my blood pressure...
TjL
--
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From: art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP package for NeXTSTEP?
Date: 13 Jun 1996 15:17:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4ppbek$di6@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>
References: <31BFB0D8.5EA6@ix.netcom.com>
Mario Pacheco <pacheco@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> The PPP package that came on the NEBULA CD states that it's an Alpha
> version. The file on the CD is "PPP-2.2-0.1.9-pkg" or something
> along those lines. Does anyone know where I can get a newer version?
A newer version is available at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ or
ftp://ftp.thoughtport.com/pub/next/ppp/, but the version you have should work
fine.
> Or
> an altogether different PPP package (that's known to work with Netcom)?
> Any advice?
The Netcom PPP server that I use behaves differently from any other PPP
server I've used. After apparently successful negotiation, the PPP link is
established, but the PPP server resends a negotiation packet causing the PPP
link to be brought down. Renegotiation succeeds and the PPP link is brought
up again.
This shuck and drive can wreak havoc because the ip-down script can begin
execution before the initial invocation of the ip-up script exits. Then the
next invocation of the ip-up script can begin executing before the ip-down
script exits.
The only way I have found to prevent this behavior is to disable BSD
compression negotiation by including the -bsdcomp pppd option.
--
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From: Ilia Bisnovatyi <ilia@cs.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Running NeXT applications remotely on X?
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:03:56 GMT
Hi, all,
I have the following question: I do part of my work
on NeXTstep, but the site that I am currently using
has only SunOS and Irix machines. However, I can remotely
login to my NeXT from here. My question is--is there a
possibility of opening graphical applications remotely
via X on my local non-NeXTstep host?
Thanks,
- Ilia (ilia@cs.uchicago.edu)
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Date: 13 Jun 1996 18:28:41 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ppmkp$fgo@news.next.com>
References: <4pok8v$jab@news4.digex.net>
John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes
> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
> > On 06/13/96, John Kheit wrote:
> > > Also, does anyone know when we should expect OPENSTEP 4.0J?
> > >
> > There is no need for one -- with 4.0, and Unicode support the code
> > bases are rolled into one.
[SNIP]
> Wow, are you sure? I mean the foundation is there...but no kanji fonts
> are there...or apps to take advantage....So when I view a kanji web
> page, I don't see kanji text... I think that we will still need a
> 4.0J??? No?
> I would love to be wrong on this...
Well, you're not wrong - there are no Japanese fonts in OPENSTEP 4.0.
There is also no Japanese input manager (the software that lets you type
Japanese characters)
So, there still needs to be a "J" version of OPENSTEP.
--
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NeXT Software, Inc
Software Quality Assurance
-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: hello
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: postscript
Date: 13 Jun 1996 18:28:45 GMT
Organization: Western Washington University
Message-ID: <4ppmkt$3oa@ra.cc.wwu.edu>
Hello,
I need something to convert poscript and encapsulated postscript files to
JPEG or GIF to place in my web pages - most Windows browsers don't support
.ps
Thanks
- Mike
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: When NS4.0?
Date: 13 Jun 1996 18:41:23 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ppncj$fj7@news.next.com>
References: <Dsu46I.1y2@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
Tim Pugh writes
> When is NS4.0 going to be released? I thought the schedule called for
> 2Q96 availability.
I obviously can't comment on schedules for unreleased products, but I'd
like to point out that the second quarter extends through the END of
June...:-)
> Also, what is the status on OPENSTEP on Sun and DEC?
Solaris Neo OPENSTEP info is available on Sun's WWW pages. Apparently Neo
OPENSTEP is now available for Beta testing:
http://www.sun.com/sunsoft/neo/external/press_rels/neo.product.FINAL.html
I don't know anything about DEC's OPENSTEP efforts.
> Has NeXT's support of Windows NT soured Sun on NeXT? Any info would
> be appreciated.
I don't think so - after all, they've known all along that we'd be porting
to NT...
--
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NeXT Software, Inc
Software Quality Assurance
-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Installing pkg with Installer
Date: 13 Jun 1996 09:09:14 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <4polrq$kb@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
References: <4phmnd$9f@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de> <DswFH7.3pA@interpc.de>
Cc: jens@ipc.de
Jens Ch. Gloede wrote:
> Which NS release?
> Is the pkg a MAB?
>
> more input!
The mystery is solved. I found the error after hours of searching. The error
message wasn't near the actual error. So it was quite a search.
--
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From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Date: 13 Jun 1996 19:08:35 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4ppovj$flv@news.next.com>
References: <4pnjmn$eln@news4.digex.net>
John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes
> Can anyone tell me if the Japaneese versions of NEXTSTEP work the same
> as the regular english version, if I select the english language for
> some accounts and Japaneese account for others?
Pretty much the same. For instance, I'm running on a "J" system right now,
and in English, it looks and acts the same as the "non-J" version.
> And if I'm in an english account, will I be able to worked with
> japaneese text as well...I.E. if I'm in OmniWeb in an english account
> and come to a Japaneese page, will it come up properly, or only while
> I'm in a Japaneese account.
I'm having a little trouble with OmniWeb right now, but many (most?)
applications will "do the right thing" if you have a Kanji font set as the
default font...
> Also, does anyone know when we should expect OPENSTEP 4.0J?
I do, but I can't tell you. OPENSTEP/J will be available some time after
the "non-J" version of OPENSTEP ships...
--
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NeXT Software, Inc
Software Quality Assurance
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: rmellin@mirage.oi.ml.com (Reimer Mellin)
Subject: Re: TIFFANY and Kodak PhotoCD
Message-ID: <DsuIzr.4GF@tigadmin.ml.com>
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References: <4piblt$qku@viper.shadow.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 17:23:51 GMT
In article <4piblt$qku@viper.shadow.net> Dino Bagdadi <dino@ex-nihilo.com>
writes:
> Multi-Session CD's are not supported by NEXTSTEP (of any flavor). There
used
> to be a company (forgot the name) that made the necessary driver as part
of
> their document processing (scanning/OCR/storing) solution, but you'd
also
> have to use a CD-ROM player that supported Multi-Session CD-ROMs. BTW,
NeXT's
> CD-ROM player doesn't support Multi-Session CD-ROMs.
The company, which is mentions is called Tools GmbH and you can visit
their Web Page at http://www.tools.de/ . Under Producs you will find the
CDROM/XA driver ...
Cheers
Reimer
--
Reimer Mellin e-mail: rmellin@NeXT.COM
NeXT Object Expert Program v-mail: (212)449-8725, (415) 780-2723
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Date: 13 Jun 1996 20:05:16 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4pps9s$muk@news4.digex.net>
References: <4pok8v$jab@news4.digex.net> <4ppmkp$fgo@news.next.com>
Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) wrote:
> Well, you're not wrong - there are no Japanese fonts in OPENSTEP 4.0.
There is also no Japanese input manager (the software that lets you type
Japanese characters)
> So, there still needs to be a "J" version of OPENSTEP.
Can anyone give what the general lag time is from say the release of
NEXTSTEP...til the release of NEXTSTEP academic J? So, if OPENSTEP is
release, say June 30...when might we expect to se OPENSTEP/Mach 4.0J
Academic bundle....
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: lin@lorien.umd.edu (Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: lynx2-4-2 won't compile anymore.
Date: 13 Jun 1996 09:59:41 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Message-ID: <4pooqd$i50@hecate.umd.edu>
Anyone got Lynx 2-4-2 or Lynx 2-5 compiled under 3.3 Developer with ncurses
? I compiled Lynx 2-4-2 without too much trouble under 3.2 Developer and it
worked. But now with the same source code but 3.3 Developer, it compiled
after add -posix to next-ncurses entry. But now lynx will not resolve
hostname in the URL anymore. With IP address URL, it still works fine.
Maybe I forgot something I did last time. But any one else find a way to
get lynx 2-4-2 or 2-5 work completely under 3.3 Developer ?
From: hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Date: 13 Jun 1996 21:37:46 GMT
Organization: Individual - France
Message-ID: <4pq1na$77@precipice.fdn.fr>
References: <4pnjmn$eln@news4.digex.net> <4pohqo$hht@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <4pok8v$jab@news4.digex.net>
John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
>
>Wow, are you sure? I mean the foundation is there...but no kanji fonts are
>there...or apps to take advantage....So when I view a kanji web page, I
>don't see kanji text... I think that we will still need a 4.0J??? No? I
>would love to be wrong on this...
You hit the right point John...
Fonts, always fonts ! When you buy ATMJ, you don't get 10 or 20 japanese fonts,
you just get 2 japanese fonts (as in NS3.xJ), but with a lot of character in
each fonts :-).
In NS3.XJ, you can only print on a japanese printer (or on a beloved NLP)
because NS3.XJ refuse to download fonts (which are crypted). Moreover, NS3.XJ
don't use exactly the same architecture used in ATMJ (Canon added a documented
"proprietary sub-layer encoding").
I don't think NS4.0 will include Japanese fonts (but will be able to deal with
japanese text). I would like to be wrong...
Buuuuuuuut... if NS3.XJ fonts works on NS4.0, I'll be happy !
Hugues (who takes the plane tomorrow for Japan :-)
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------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
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From: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Q: Bar code application?
Message-ID: <DsyGC2.2AC@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: news@nidat.sub.org
Cc: m277665@seix6
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <4pmcos$2mc@newsser1.gmsg.ch>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:16:50 GMT
In <4pmcos$2mc@newsser1.gmsg.ch> markus.rohner wrote:
> Does anybody know of a software (freeware or commercial),
> which can generate bar codes?
>
> It should work more or less in the following way:
>
> 1. Choosing the code type (EAN-8, EAN-13, EAN-128, Interleaved 2 out 5,
> Code 39)
> 2. Giving the code
> 3. and then the software should show the bar code (preferably as
> a tiff-icon, which can be dragged and dropped into
> e.g. FrameMaker.)
>
There is a Code39 PostScript font on the Font Garden CD available from Walnut
Creek. The NEXTSTEP version comes even with a precompiled font directory.
Just mount the CD, link the Font dir to any place where fonts are searched
and use them in any text app. Way cool!
P.S.: Your Reply path is invalid!
--
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Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
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From: "W. J. Peterson" <peterson@churchill.bigyellow.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: frame grabber
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 04:23:34 -0400
Organization: Big Yellow
Message-ID: <31C12186.57BC@churchill.bigyellow.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Is there a frame grabber for NS?
If my friend cannot find one he says that he will
use NT. Please help me prevent this....
bill
peterson@churchill.bigyellow.com
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: ~/.AppInfo
Date: 13 Jun 1996 22:03:27 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4pq37f$7f6@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960612090909.2125B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> Somewhere along the way, someone came up with the idea to have
> the app files which would be placed in ~/ placed in a centralized
> folder called ~/.AppInfo. I saw this as yet another very smart
> idea. It seems like a good way to keep my $HOME uncluttered....
>
> I've seen a few apps lately which have ignored this idea, and
> that bothers me because, well, it's there, why not use it? I
> don't remember what apps they were right now, but anyway, I just
> wanted to mention it.
Yeah, I like this idea too. It seemed like a good place to
tuck away configuration files for individual applications.
I'd like to see more NeXTSTEP apps take advantage of it too.
(well, actually I'd like to see unix utilities in general
do that too, but that's probably too much to hope for)
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: afi@d-tech.de (Alfred Fiedler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Q: cmd-line Newsreader for NS3.2
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 06:16:01 GMT
Organization: Customer of EUnet Germany; Info: info@Germany.EU.net
Message-ID: <4pqv9s$otp@Dortmund.Germany.EU.net>
Hi all,
currently I use Newsgrazer on black hardware and
I like it, but because of remote access via
rlogin from a non NeXTSTEP PC is there any
command-line Newsreader (source or binary)
for NeXTSTEP 3.2?
Thanks in advance,
Alfred.
From: far@ix.netcom.net(Felipe A. Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PPP package for NeXTSTEP?
Date: 14 Jun 1996 08:24:37 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4pr7k5$8mv@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
References: <4ppbek$di6@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>
In article <4ppbek$di6@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> art@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes:
snip
>
> The Netcom PPP server that I use behaves differently from any other PPP
>server I've used. After apparently successful negotiation, the PPP link is
>established, but the PPP server resends a negotiation packet causing the PPP
>link to be brought down. Renegotiation succeeds and the PPP link is brought
>up again.
>
snip
> The only way I have found to prevent this behavior is to disable BSD
>compression negotiation by including the -bsdcomp pppd option.
>--
The behaviour you describe from Netcom's server is recent. It began to
occur about one month ago (at least for SoCal access).
>Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@cubicsol.com
>Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515
>CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154
> managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
--
Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from
Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was
# armed; his successors, since they avoided
far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private
(NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes.
(MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: chongl%sc@mhs.elan.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: When NS4.0?
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:02:21 GMT
Organization: United States Air Force
Message-ID: <4ppamk$es5@rcp6.elan.af.mil>
References: <Dsu46I.1y2@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu>
tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) wrote:
>When is NS4.0 going to be released? I thought the schedule called for
>2Q96 availability. Also, what is the status on OPENSTEP on Sun and DEC?
>Has NeXT's support of Windows NT soured Sun on NeXT? Any info would
>be appreciated.
According to a next salesperson, it should be out in two weeks.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Date: 14 Jun 1996 09:42:07 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4prc5f$o1l@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4pnjmn$eln@news4.digex.net> <4ppovj$flv@news.next.com>
In-Reply-To: <4ppovj$flv@news.next.com>
On 06/13/96, Mark Bessey wrote:
> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes
> > Can anyone tell me if the Japaneese versions of NEXTSTEP work the same
> > as the regular english version, if I select the english language for
> > some accounts and Japaneese account for others?
> Pretty much the same. For instance, I'm running on a "J" system right now,
> and in English, it looks and acts the same as the "non-J" version.
>
> > And if I'm in an english account, will I be able to worked with
> > japaneese text as well...I.E. if I'm in OmniWeb in an english account
> > and come to a Japaneese page, will it come up properly, or only while
> > I'm in a Japaneese account.
> I'm having a little trouble with OmniWeb right now, but many (most?)
> applications will "do the right thing" if you have a Kanji font set as the
> default font...
>
> > Also, does anyone know when we should expect OPENSTEP 4.0J?
>
> I do, but I can't tell you. OPENSTEP/J will be available some time after
> the "non-J" version of OPENSTEP ships...
>
and elsewhere:
>
> Well, you're not wrong - there are no Japanese fonts in OPENSTEP
> 4.0. There is also no Japanese input manager (the software that
> lets you type Japanese characters)
>
> So, there still needs to be a "J" version of OPENSTEP.
>
:-(
My apologies for my misunderstanding and hence misinformation...
However...
So I can understand where I got confused, I wonder if we're talking at
crossed-purposes? I got the impression from chaps (well, one chap in
particular) at Canon/Japan that (primarily because of Unicode support) the
*code base* for 4.0 would be the same for both the English and Japanese
versions.
Is this true?
I can understand the reason for there still being seperate "product" releases
as the J version will, as you say, require additions (*expensive*) fonts, and
an input app (which costs money to develop), but I *thought* that in theory
if you bought the fonts seperately you could see kanji on OS-4 regular, and
if you got hold of or developed your own input app, you could then mock up
your own OS-4J...?
Is this the case?
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: postscript
Date: 14 Jun 1996 09:44:11 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4prc9b$o1r@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4ppmkt$3oa@ra.cc.wwu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4ppmkt$3oa@ra.cc.wwu.edu>
On 06/13/96, hello wrote:
> I need something to convert poscript and encapsulated postscript
> files to JPEG or GIF to place in my web pages - most Windows browsers don't
> support .ps
>
The best tool for this is (IMHO) eXTRATIFF from GSCorp: cf
http://www.gscorp.com/
and
http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Running NeXT applications remotely on X?
Date: 14 Jun 1996 09:11:32 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4prac4$ah@turbocat.snafu.de>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960613130301.1884B-100000@tartarus13>
Ilia Bisnovatyi <ilia@cs.uchicago.edu> wrote:
(...)
> login to my NeXT from here. My question is--is there a
> possibility of opening graphical applications remotely
> via X on my local non-NeXTstep host?
Maybe you can write a program that grabs your screen, packs it, transfers the
picture to the sun and displays it. Inputs on X should be send to the NeXT
and fake inputs there. That will be dead slow -- anybody tried that out?
_ _
_(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development,
(_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG,
_/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152
(______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: ~/.AppInfo
Date: 14 Jun 1996 10:29:18 GMT
Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany
Message-ID: <4pretu$je8@zdi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960612090909.2125B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In <Pine.NXT.3.93.960612090909.2125B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
>Somewhere along the way, someone came up with the idea to have the app
>files which would be placed in ~/ placed in a centralized folder called
>~/.AppInfo. I saw this as yet another very smart idea. It seems like a
>good way to keep my $HOME uncluttered....
Well, it stands in the docs, but I can't tell where at the moment.
>I've seen a few apps lately which have ignored this idea, and that bothers
>me because, well, it's there, why not use it? I don't remember what apps
>they were right now, but anyway, I just wanted to mention it.
What do you mean with "lately"? Not even NeXT's own apps (eg. Edit and IB) use
.AppInfo. And with such a paragon....no wonder......
>Thank you for helping to lower my blood pressure...
Thank you for highering my blood preasure now.
>TjL
Klaus Brouwer
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: When NS4.0?
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:21:24 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd
Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk
Message-ID: <DszM7p.3Lr@cam-ani.co.uk>
References: <4ppncj$fj7@news.next.com>
In article <4ppncj$fj7@news.next.com> Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
writes:
> the second quarter extends through the END of June...
or to change the emphasis
> the second quarter extends THROUGH the end of June...
as in driving a truck THOUGH a wall, coming out the other side, and
keeping going?
I hope this was not a freudian slip(age).
[I doubt it!]
$an
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger)
Subject: Re: Win95 keyboard definition
Message-ID: <DszH81.6t5@onevision.de>
Sender: news@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
References: <4pkb9i$ebq@enquirer.firepower.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:33:37 GMT
In article <4pkb9i$ebq@enquirer.firepower.com> adam@firepower.com
writes:
>
> Has anybody created a keyboard definition (a .keyboard file) for the
> keyboard that has the extra Windows 95 keys?
>
>
This is only possible with 4.0
======================================================================
Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH
Support Florian-Seidl-Strasse 11
Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg
(NeXTMail and MIME welcome) Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: zollingj@ripley (John Zollinger)
Subject: Re: Q: Bar code application?
Sender: news@docws001.shl.com
Message-ID: <DszvCL.trI@docws001.shl.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:38:45 GMT
References: <4pmcos$2mc@newsser1.gmsg.ch>
Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc.
markus.rohner (m277665@seix6) wrote:
: Does anybody know of a software (freeware or commercial),
: which can generate bar codes?
Commercial option would be BarACoda from HotSoftware. This is an excellent
app that does all the things you mention. They used to also have a great
BarcodeKit series of objects to generate barcodes programatically.
Great stuff, but I don't know who you can buy it from now days. Perhaps
the author Robert La Ferla can comment?
As a side note, if you really want your barcodes to work well, you should
use an EPS instead of a TIFF.
Good luck,
John Zollinger
johnz@usa.net
From: asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NEXTSTEP 4.0 when?
Date: 14 Jun 1996 12:58:47 GMT
Organization: International Turnkey Systems
Message-ID: <4prnm7$glp@info.itsq8.com>
Is NEXTSTEP 4.0 going to be released soon?
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: When NS4.0?
Date: 14 Jun 1996 16:25:36 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4ps3q0$sam@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <Dsu46I.1y2@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> <4ppamk$es5@rcp6.elan.af.mil>
chongl%sc@mhs.elan.af.mil wrote:
: tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) wrote:
: >When is NS4.0 going to be released? I thought the schedule called for
: >2Q96 availability. Also, what is the status on OPENSTEP on Sun and DEC?
: >Has NeXT's support of Windows NT soured Sun on NeXT? Any info would
: >be appreciated.
: According to a next salesperson, it should be out in two weeks.
I hope the feeling on the street is that 4.0 will be a dog, and we should all
wait for 4.1. I _hate_ being forced to do upgrades, and would prefer to wait.
.-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-.
/ L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \
/ `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `
Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
(617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax)
lones@lones.mit.edu
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: ~/.AppInfo
Date: 14 Jun 1996 16:28:44 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4ps3vs$5op@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960612090909.2125B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4pretu$je8@zdi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
In-Reply-To: <4pretu$je8@zdi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
On 06/14/96, Klaus Brouwer wrote:
> In <Pine.NXT.3.93.960612090909.2125B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
>
> >Somewhere along the way, someone came up with the idea to have the app
> >files which would be placed in ~/ placed in a centralized folder called
> >~/.AppInfo. I saw this as yet another very smart idea. It seems like a
> >good way to keep my $HOME uncluttered....
> Well, it stands in the docs, but I can't tell where at the moment.
>
> >I've seen a few apps lately which have ignored this idea, and that bothers
> >me because, well, it's there, why not use it? I don't remember what apps
> >they were right now, but anyway, I just wanted to mention it.
> What do you mean with "lately"? Not even NeXT's own apps (eg. Edit and IB)
> use .AppInfo. And with such a paragon....no wonder......
>
I knew this sort of thing had been discussed before...
Best wishes,
mmalc.
---
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 92 13:09:46 BST
^^
From: M.Crawford
To: Martin_Reed@com.next
Subject: Re: British spelling and A4 Preview
Cc: UK-NeXT-USERS@uk.ac.york.ohm
Comments: UK NeXT Users Mailing List
Hi Martin,
> As for "dot" files, I certainly sympathise - at last count
> I had 35 of this little perishers. However, I would really
> recommend people avoid adding to the .NeXT directory as
> we reserve the right to change it in unpredictable ways;
> in essence it is a reserved space.
>
Thanks for pointing this out, I didn't notice it mentioned during the
previous discussion.
Perhaps, then, NeXT could try to encourage developers to put their
applications' initialisation files/directories into a .NeXTApps
directory, just to make things a bit tidier?
Have fun,
Malcolm.
--
From: markus.rohner@gmsg.ch (Markus Rohner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: postscript
Date: 14 Jun 1996 09:30:39 GMT
Organization: Genossenschaft Migros St. Gallen, Gossau SG, Switzerland
Message-ID: <4prbfv$it9@newsser1.gmsg.ch>
References: <4ppmkt$3oa@ra.cc.wwu.edu>
Cc: hello
In <4ppmkt$3oa@ra.cc.wwu.edu> hello wrote:
> I need something to convert poscript and encapsulated postscript files to
> JPEG or GIF to place in my web pages - most Windows browsers don't support
> .ps
>
Use ImageViewer (freeware)
It can be found on the peanuts archive.
--
Markus Rohner
Methodik/Infrastruktur
Genossenschaft Migros St. Gallen
eMail: markus.rohner@gmsg.ch (NeXTmail/MIME welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Running NeXT applications remotely on X?
Message-ID: <DszytF.7Gs@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: news@nidat.sub.org
Cc: ilia@cs.uchicago.edu
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960613130301.1884B-100000@tartarus13>
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:53:38 GMT
In <Pine.SUN.3.91.960613130301.1884B-100000@tartarus13> Ilia Bisnovatyi
wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> I have the following question: I do part of my work
> on NeXTstep, but the site that I am currently using
> has only SunOS and Irix machines. However, I can remotely
> login to my NeXT from here. My question is--is there a
> possibility of opening graphical applications remotely
> via X on my local non-NeXTstep host?
>
Only if you can manage to get DisplayPostScript for your X-server. Tektronix
and Digital sell it as an option to their X-terminals, for instance.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Running NeXT applications remotely on X?
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
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Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:32:27 GMT
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960613130301.1884B-100000@tartarus13>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.960613130301.1884B-100000@tartarus13>,
Ilia Bisnovatyi <ilia@cs.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>Hi, all,
>
>I have the following question: I do part of my work
>on NeXTstep, but the site that I am currently using
>has only SunOS and Irix machines. However, I can remotely
>login to my NeXT from here. My question is--is there a
>possibility of opening graphical applications remotely
>via X on my local non-NeXTstep host?
>
No--can't be done. NeXT DPS is a thing all unto itself.
--
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Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: p25231@email.mot.com
Subject: Adobe Acrobat PDF files on Next?
Organization: MOTOROLA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:14:58 GMT
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Does anyone know how I can view .pdf files on my Next?
- Thanks, Mark
p25231@email.mot.com
From: Bill Wallace <mds@rt66.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: CU SEEME
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:49:53 +0100
Organization: Rt66.COM, Public Internet Access in New Mexico
Message-ID: <31C143D1.8C@rt66.com>
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Our school has a Next computer. I would really like to use it as a
reflector for CU SEEME at our school. Does anyone know if the Unix
CU SEEME Software will run on a Next.
Thanks,
Bill Wallace
Cybrarian
Manzano Day School
Albuquerque, NM
mds@rt66.com
http://www.rt66.com/~mds
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 19:08:36 GMT
Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16
Message-ID: <4psdee$8f3@news.snfc21.pacbell.net>
References: <4pnjmn$eln@news4.digex.net> <4ppovj$flv@news.next.com> <4prc5f$o1l@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
>So I can understand where I got confused, I wonder if we're talking at
>crossed-purposes? I got the impression from chaps (well, one chap in
>particular) at Canon/Japan that (primarily because of Unicode support) the
>*code base* for 4.0 would be the same for both the English and Japanese
>versions.
>
>Is this true?
That's the intent, yes.
>I can understand the reason for there still being seperate "product" releases
>as the J version will, as you say, require additions (*expensive*) fonts, and
>an input app (which costs money to develop), but I *thought* that in theory
>if you bought the fonts seperately you could see kanji on OS-4 regular, and
>if you got hold of or developed your own input app, you could then mock up
>your own OS-4J...?
In theory, yes. I think that the Software Qualtiy Assurance group
would like to test that theory before the customers do, however. It
also wouldn't be a bad idea to allow a bit of time in the schedule for
Engineering work in case that theory breaks down...
Mike Paquette
I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me.
mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail
mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: velcro@escape.com (David Sinclair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: EOFUserPatch under NS3.2 ?
Date: 14 Jun 1996 19:53:15 GMT
Organization: Stealth Communications, New York City.
Message-ID: <4psfvb$osp@news.stealth.net>
hi, all.
i thought i had read that there was an EOFUserPatch that would allow
someone running NS3.2 to run applications (like WebObjects 1.0, and
OmniWeb 2.0) written for NS3.3 -- is this true?
the only patch like this i could find in NextAnswers said it was for
machines running 3.3 only, so i didn't grab that one....does anyone know
where i can find what i'm looking for, if in fact it's out there?
cheers,
sinclair
--------------
david a. sinclair velcro@escape.com
NeXT 32/5gig BeBox 80/2.5gig
From: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help with TeX-Live CD
Date: 14 Jun 1996 20:08:37 GMT
Organization: Universite Laval
Message-ID: <4psgs5$ol9@athena.ulaval.ca>
Hello,
I would appreciate help from anyone who has succesfully installed teTeX from
the TeXLive CD on intel. The install script does not work on my machine.
Thanks,
A. Gautier
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
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From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat PDF files on Next?
Date: 14 Jun 1996 21:06:21 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
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References: <1996Jun14.161458.28790@schbbs.mot.com>
On Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:14:58 GMT, p25231@email.mot.com <p25231@email.mot.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know how I can view .pdf files on my Next?
Yes and no. The NS PDF viewing apps are not as functional as Adobe Acrobat
because they can't read a lot of the PDF files out there. The best PDF
viewer I've seen for NS is PDFView (v1.41), PDFViewer (v0.95) is in the
middle and the worst is OmniPDF (v2.0 PR1), judging by my tests with 20
randomly selected PDF files using the named versions of those three apps.
All three apps are available for free from the NS archives.
All three apps have a tendency to balk at some files (saying they're
encrypted when the real problem is they just can't read the unencrypted file
for some other reason) and none of them work with or have substitutes for
the Adobe Acrobat expansion modules.
If you want good mainstream word processing or DTP related software, go to
the Mac or Windows.
--
Due to local news server and feed problems, I might not see all followups.
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Date: 14 Jun 1996 19:05:49 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4psd6d$hhl@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4pnjmn$eln@news4.digex.net> <4pohqo$hht@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <4pok8v$jab@news4.digex.net>
John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote:
> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote:
> > On 06/13/96, John Kheit wrote:
> > > Also, does anyone know when we should expect OPENSTEP 4.0J?
> > >
> > There is no need for one -- with 4.0, and Unicode support the
> > code bases are rolled into one. This is one *very* good reason
> > (IMHO) why NeXT should stick with NEXTSTEP: in general, operating
> > systems' support for non-Roman script is poor; NeXT seem to me
> > at least to have done a much better job than most at integrating
> > support for 16-bit characters, and so put themsleves in a good
> > position to take advantage of the expanding market on the
> > Pacific Rim.
>
> Hi Malcom :)
>
> Wow, are you sure? I mean the foundation is there...but no kanji
> fonts are there...or apps to take advantage....So when I view a
> kanji web page, I don't see kanji text...
I, who have no experience with NS-4.0, would guess that the key
is the lack of Kanji postscript fonts. And from what I remember,
good quality Kanji postscript fonts are rather expensive.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Running NeXT applications remotely on X?
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 23:57:11 GMT
Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16
Message-ID: <4psubl$i4s@news.snfc21.pacbell.net>
References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960613130301.1884B-100000@tartarus13> <DszytF.7Gs@nidat.sub.org>
nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote:
>In <Pine.SUN.3.91.960613130301.1884B-100000@tartarus13> Ilia Bisnovatyi
>wrote:
>> Hi, all,
>>
>> I have the following question: I do part of my work
>> on NeXTstep, but the site that I am currently using
>> has only SunOS and Irix machines. However, I can remotely
>> login to my NeXT from here. My question is--is there a
>> possibility of opening graphical applications remotely
>> via X on my local non-NeXTstep host?
>>
>Only if you can manage to get DisplayPostScript for your X-server. Tektronix
>and Digital sell it as an option to their X-terminals, for instance.
I'm sorry, folks, but that won't work. NeXT's GUI relies on
additional capabilities present in NeXT's Window Server that aren't in
the stock DPS interpreter bolted into (or in front of) X servers.
NeXT added additional DPS operators to support compositing, window
creation and management, and event processing and dispatch. (Which is
why they call it a Window Server instead of a DPS Interpreter!)
Mike Paquette
I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me.
mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail
mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 4.0 when?
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 23:57:10 GMT
Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16
Message-ID: <4psubi$i4s@news.snfc21.pacbell.net>
References: <4prnm7$glp@info.itsq8.com>
asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan) wrote:
>Is NEXTSTEP 4.0 going to be released soon?
Yes.
Ow! Ouch! Oh, all right.
The product is to ship by the end of Q2 of 1996, AKA June 30, 1996, so
I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that NEXTSTEP 4.0 aka OPENSTEP 4.0 for
Mach will ship sometime in the next two weeks.
Just my opinion, of course. Look to comp.sys.next.announce for any
announcements.
Mike Paquette
I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me.
mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail
mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: EOFUserPatch under NS3.2 ?
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 03:52:42 GMT
References: <4psfvb$osp@news.stealth.net>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4psfvb$osp@news.stealth.net>,
David Sinclair <velcro@escape.com> wrote:
>hi, all.
>
>i thought i had read that there was an EOFUserPatch that would allow
>someone running NS3.2 to run applications (like WebObjects 1.0, and
>OmniWeb 2.0) written for NS3.3 -- is this true?
>
>the only patch like this i could find in NextAnswers said it was for
>machines running 3.3 only, so i didn't grab that one....does anyone know
>where i can find what i'm looking for, if in fact it's out there?
>
The one from NeXTanswers that you found works fine under 3.2.
>--------------
>david a. sinclair velcro@escape.com
>NeXT 32/5gig BeBox 80/2.5gig
>
Hmmm...sounds like my desk. :-)
--
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Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Alexandra & Subscribed newsgroups
Date: 15 Jun 1996 10:42:43 GMT
Organization: Unconfigured
Message-ID: <4pu433$4gr@jaring.my>
Probably a really dumb question, but... I receive rnews feeds from my ISP for
several subscribed groups. They come via uucp, but I don't know how to get
Alexandra to view these without connecting to the NNTP server & loading the
whole (usenet) world?
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: ~/.AppInfo
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:41:07 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614093720.2754B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960612090909.2125B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4pretu$je8@zdi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
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To: Klaus Brouwer <brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
In-Reply-To: <4pretu$je8@zdi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
On 14 Jun 1996, Klaus Brouwer wrote:
> >I've seen a few apps lately which have ignored this idea, and that bothers
> >me because, well, it's there, why not use it? I don't remember what apps
> >they were right now, but anyway, I just wanted to mention it.
>
> What do you mean with "lately"? Not even NeXT's own apps (eg. Edit and
> IB) use .AppInfo. And with such a paragon....no wonder......
I don't know much about IB, but as far as Edit.app and other NeXT apps,
they all use the defaults database for their info. ~/.AppInfo is a place
to store information which is not appropriate for the defaults database,
such as Fiend's dock and shelf information...
If your app needs to drop extra files someplace, why not
~/.AppInfo/Appname?
> >Thank you for helping to lower my blood pressure...
> Thank you for highering my blood preasure now.
I do not hope to raise it now, but I don't think you really understood my
original post, which I take 50% blame for....
TjL
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:02:50 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614094610.2754C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
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I was just looking at the WriteUp demo, and was disappointed at 2 things:
1) it failed to correctly read even a simple Word doc (even with AFS
filter installed). Either that or I misunderstand what it is supposed to
do. I was hoping that formatting/paragraph breaks would be recognized.
They were not.
2) there is still no provision for footnotes or endnotes. Do people
actually not see this as a fatal flaw for a WP app?
I am about to download OpenWrite's demo, and I hope that it will be able
to do show me hope for doing word processing on my NeXT.
Otherwise I am stuck with my WordPerfect -- roughly version 5.1, meaning
that it can't read the newer format (6.1) so I either have to Save as 5.1
(when on my yucky DOS machine) or else it won't read it... and we know
that WordPerfect will not be coming back to NeXTStep any time soon.
WordPerfect for NeXT was never great, but it could drop in TIFF files and
do footnoting in 1991....
So far, I'm not sure what I'd want to pay $175 (student) for in WriteUp,
especially if the Word docs can't be read (which is my main need which
WordPerfect on NeXT can't do).
Now I've only got a few Word .doc files to check, so maybe others will
have better luck than I, but right now I'm rather depressed about
WriteUp demo, for all the reasons stated above. Apps for NS have never
been cheap, but in the days where most computers come with their own for
the price of the computer, I can't believe there isn't a more complete WP
app available.....
Well, I'm off to download OpenWrite...
I'd be grateful to hear from people who are using these products (WriteUp
and OpenWrite) to shine a light on their finer points....
TjL
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*** Please note: the new address cannot read the 'reply-to' line ***
From: Tomaz Sustar <tomaz.sustar@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FaxDriver for USRSportster Faxmodem
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 12:21:53 +0200
Organization: Komunikacijsko Informacijski Servis SOU - KISS
Message-ID: <31B802C1.1743@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si>
References: <4p1rqf$geq@sail.leverkusen.netsurf.de> <31B71456.3A8A@mpr.ca>
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Scott Mewett wrote:
>
> JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de wrote:
> >
> > How can we all get a driver? email to USRobotics? email to NXFax? Perhaps everyone who wants to fax with his Sportster should post a news to this forum and s
> >
> > So if anybody is willing to create a driver - do it, I will pay the shareware-price!
> >
>
> Hi am very interested in one as well. count me in for a one.
>
I'm interested too !!!
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From: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: frame grabber
Message-ID: <Dt1AG0.9Ep@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: news@nidat.sub.org
Cc: peterson@churchill.bigyellow.com
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <31C12186.57BC@churchill.bigyellow.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 09:02:24 GMT
In <31C12186.57BC@churchill.bigyellow.com> "W. J. Peterson" wrote:
> Is there a frame grabber for NS?
>
> If my friend cannot find one he says that he will
> use NT. Please help me prevent this....
>
Yes, there is one. It is called NeXTdimension and works for qubes only. But
I fear the yes is actually a no. I don't know of any frame grabber for NS/I.
--
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From: jens@ipc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: postscript
Message-ID: <Dt1q3r.EFp@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
References: <4ppmkt$3oa@ra.cc.wwu.edu>
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:40:39 GMT
hello writes
> Hello,
> I need something to convert poscript and encapsulated postscript
files to
> JPEG or GIF to place in my web pages - most Windows browsers don't
support
> .ps
The cheap way: Open it in Preview and grab with Grab.app.
Then you have and there are several TIFF->GIF or ->JPG converters.
Though this might cause a problem with your screen color depth.
so long,
jens
From: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: frame grabber
Date: 15 Jun 1996 18:43:20 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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>In <31C12186.57BC@churchill.bigyellow.com> "W. J. Peterson" wrote:
>> Is there a frame grabber for NS?
>>
Yes, there is. You can use various boards manufactured by FAST with
drivers and software by IPC. Here's some relevant references:
http://www.stepwise.com/ThirdParty/Developers/interpersonal_computing_GmbH.htmld/index.html
http://www.ipc.de/information/products/index.html
http://fast-multimedia.com/fast/html/products/products.html
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: 16 Jun 1996 03:14:34 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
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References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614094610.2754C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> I was just looking at the WriteUp demo, and was disappointed at 2 things:
> 1) it failed to correctly read even a simple Word doc (even with AFS
filter installed). Either that or I misunderstand what it is supposed to
do. I was hoping that formatting/paragraph breaks would be recognized.
They were not.
I think you did not set something up correctly. WriteUp does pretty good
job of reading even fairly complex word documents for me (w/ tables and
graphics...where as OpenWrite does not...)
> 2) there is still no provision for footnotes or endnotes. Do people
actually not see this as a fatal flaw for a WP app?
Yes, this does blow...I still pray they release a new version supporting
this critical feature...
> I am about to download OpenWrite's demo, and I hope that it will be able
to do show me hope for doing word processing on my NeXT.
It has lots of features, but the UI leaves something to be desired (a great
understatement IMO...)
> So far, I'm not sure what I'd want to pay $175 (student) for in WriteUp,
especially if the Word docs can't be read (which is my main need which
WordPerfect on NeXT can't do).
Regardless of what you choose, for goodness sake, GO GET the $99.00
Lighthouse suite of apps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You get so much,
including OpenWrite, for that money, that every edu person should take
advantage.
> Now I've only got a few Word .doc files to check, so maybe others will
have better luck than I, but right now I'm rather depressed about WriteUp
demo, for all the reasons stated above. Apps for NS have never been cheap,
but in the days where most computers come with their own for the price of
the computer, I can't believe there isn't a more complete WP app
available.....
If you like, you can NeXTmail me the troubled word doc and I'll try to open
it, and confirm if it is just not properly set up on yourside, of if the
document truly cannot be opened by WriteUp...
Generally speaking, OpenWrite is more powerful, has worse importing and a
worse UI than WriteUp...
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
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From: kono@ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp (Shinji Kono)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Sender: news@spn.ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp (News System Admin)
Organization: Information Engineering, University of the Ryukyus
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Originator: kono@rananim.ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp
References: <4pok8v$jab@news4.digex.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 09:58:48 GMT
In article <4pok8v$jab@news4.digex.net> ,
jkheit@cnj.digex.net writes
>Wow, are you sure? I mean the foundation is there...but no kanji fonts are
>there...or apps to take advantage....So when I view a kanji web page, I
>don't see kanji text...
Not all kanji fonts are expensive. For example, 'J'apanese Windows96's
price is roughly same as U.S. price. We also have some free kanji fonts.
NEXTSTEP's Morisawa Font is beatuiful but quite expensive. This is the
problem.
I think we can use free fonts (14x14,16x16,24x24) for DPS, and we
can use TrueType fonts for print quality. This will make Japanese
NEXTSTEP 30-40% cheaper. But still much expensive than Windows95.
Yes, only rich men can use NEXTSTEP in Japan.
--
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From: Holger.Hoffstaette@schwaben.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PDF distillers
Date: 16 Jun 1996 12:33:58 GMT
Organization: home
Message-ID: <4q0uvn$nup@gate.seicom.net>
Does anybody know any PDF distillers for NS, preferrably capable of
batch processing?
Some time ago someone from RADium (Canada) posted about a soon-to-be
released app called 'PDF Expression' - I tried to contact them, but
mail always bounces. Also, what about Omnigroup's OmniStill and
GS Corp.'s distiller?
All the PS viewers I found for NT (without OpenStep) are unusable,
so I'd like to convert as much as possible to PDF.
Holger
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From: Robert La Ferla <rdl@cais.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Q: Bar code application?
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 12:01:31 -0400
Organization: Capital Area Internet Service, Inc.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.93.960616115556.1480A-100000@cais2.cais.com>
References: <4pmcos$2mc@newsser1.gmsg.ch> <DszvCL.trI@docws001.shl.com>
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To: John Zollinger <johnz@usa.net>
In-Reply-To: <DszvCL.trI@docws001.shl.com>
HTI actively develops and markets BarCodeKit and Bar-a-Coda for NEXTSTEP.
Anyone who would like to purchase our products (and I hope everyone wants
to support the few developers that are still supporting NEXTSTEP) can send
e-mail to info@hot.com. Demo versions of our products can be found in
every NEXTSTEP 3.3 box on the 3rd Party CD-ROM.
Robert La Ferla
HTI
On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, John Zollinger wrote:
> markus.rohner (m277665@seix6) wrote:
> : Does anybody know of a software (freeware or commercial),
> : which can generate bar codes?
>
> Commercial option would be BarACoda from HotSoftware. This is an excellent
> app that does all the things you mention. They used to also have a great
> BarcodeKit series of objects to generate barcodes programatically.
>
> Great stuff, but I don't know who you can buy it from now days. Perhaps
> the author Robert La Ferla can comment?
>
> As a side note, if you really want your barcodes to work well, you should
> use an EPS instead of a TIFF.
>
> Good luck,
> John Zollinger
> johnz@usa.net
>
>
>
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Alexandra & Subscribed newsgroups
Date: 16 Jun 1996 14:30:44 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4q15qk$105@turbocat.snafu.de>
References: <4pu433$4gr@jaring.my>
michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) wrote:
> Probably a really dumb question, but... I receive rnews feeds from my ISP
for
> several subscribed groups. They come via uucp, but I don't know how to get
> Alexandra to view these without connecting to the NNTP server & loading the
> whole (usenet) world?
I get my News batched and compressed via UUCP. After polling, they go into my
INN.
I have a tar that compiles out of the box on NS. It's 0.56 MB. If someone is
interested, I put it on an ftp server.
_ _
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(_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG,
_/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152
(______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jens@ipc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: frame grabber
Message-ID: <Dt3GEn.H00@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
References: <31C12186.57BC@churchill.bigyellow.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:06:22 GMT
"W. J. Peterson" <peterson@churchill.bigyellow.com> writes
> Is there a frame grabber for NS?
Yes! Check out:
http://www.ipc.de/information/products/index.html
so long,
jens ch. gloede
__ _________________________________________________________
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E-Mail: jens@ipc.de NeXT & MIME Mail ok (int.< 1 MB)
From: rwilson@gate.net (Robert Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CU SEEME
Date: 16 Jun 1996 17:10:24 -0400
Organization: CyberGate, Inc.
Message-ID: <4q1t80$1imq@hopi.gate.net>
References: <31C143D1.8C@rt66.com>
NNTP-Posting-User: rwilson
Bill Wallace (mds@rt66.com) wrote:
: Our school has a Next computer. I would really like to use it as a
: reflector for CU SEEME at our school. Does anyone know if the Unix
: CU SEEME Software will run on a Next.
:
: Thanks,
: Bill Wallace
: Cybrarian
: Manzano Day School
: Albuquerque, NM
: mds@rt66.com
: http://www.rt66.com/~mds
Check out the White Pine web site. They have the reflector binaries for
NeXTSTEP.
Good Luck...
-Rob
--
Robert K. Wilson |
19497 Planters Point Drive | NeXT Mail Accepted
Boca Raton, FL 33434 | Internet: rwilson@gate.net
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 18:28:34 -0400
Organization: worldbank
Message-ID: <31C48A92.77D2@worldbank.org>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614094610.2754C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Timothy J. Luoma wrote:
> I was just looking at the WriteUp demo, and was disappointed at 2 things:
> 1) it failed to correctly read even a simple Word doc (even with AFS
> filter installed). Either that or I misunderstand what it is supposed to
> do. I was hoping that formatting/paragraph breaks would be recognized.
> They were not.
You must be doing something wrong. I've use WUp demo several times to view
Word for Windows .doc files, with few problems. Certainly paragraph and font
formatting is retained.
> 2) there is still no provision for footnotes or endnotes. Do people
> actually not see this as a fatal flaw for a WP app?
It is for my use, which is why I'm still using WP :-(
I haven't seen OpenWrite recently. Does it have footnotes?
Stefano
From: "Nicholas Jeremica" <jeremica@seanet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXT for Intel
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:29:37 -0700
Organization: The Jeremica Family
Message-ID: <01bb5be4.10e2f100$e444b6cc@jeremica>
Help Help Help!
I'm trying to install Next for Intel on my PC but I can't get it to boot
once I've installed the system. I figured out that I can boot with the
"-v" option and get the diagnostic messages. Through the messages I was
able to see where it was stooping. When not running the diagnostic
messages after checking the disk the machine would hang on the
"Configuring Drivers" screen. Using the diagnostic mode I'm able to see
that it's hanging after initializing my SCSI card. For a while is was
while initializing the PS2Mouse but now it seems to be the SCSI card. I'm
using an older card, a AHA-1542B with a Sony CDU-55S and a Fujitsu
half-gig drive. Any ideas? Is there a FAQ for this? HELP!
---
-Nick
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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: CU SEEME
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 20:42:42 -0500
Organization: Illinois State University, Instructional Technology Services
Message-ID: <31C4B812.2366@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
References: <31C143D1.8C@rt66.com> <4q1t80$1imq@hopi.gate.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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Robert Wilson wrote:
> Check out the White Pine web site. They have the reflector binaries for
> NeXTSTEP.
They're also at ftp://gated.cornell.edu/pub/video/
------------------------------------------
Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie
mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ASCII, MIME or NeXT Mail
Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University
Understanding is best learned via experience
ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 17 Jun 1996 04:15:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4q2m4e$bv4@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
http://www.next.com
comp.sys.next.* newsgroups
==========================
news:comp.sys.next.advocacy
This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in
the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy
flame wars from .misc.
news:comp.sys.next.announce
Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products,
FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.)
This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it
directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com
where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability.
Archives are available by ftp at
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Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted
to any other comp.sys.next groups.
news:comp.sys.next.bugs
A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material
e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for
the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This
newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post
stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense
to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual
reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well.
news:comp.sys.next.hardware
Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals,
and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with
NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better
asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices
belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used
NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for.
news:comp.sys.next.marketplace
NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be
crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to
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news:comp.sys.next.misc
For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here
by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no
crossposting!!!
news:comp.sys.next.programmer
Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is
primarily a forum for advanced technical material.
Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although
specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are
appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal"
newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach,
comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest.
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This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run
on NEXTSTEP systems.
news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this
will spill over into .programmer or .software.
Related Newsgroups
==================
news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists
because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for
discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP.
news:comp.lang.objective-c
Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a
programmer/philosopher.
(The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to
it.)
Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs
or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be
simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups.
Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
next-hardware-d
next-marketplace-d
next-misc-d
next-programmer-d
next-software-d
next-sysadmin-d
(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request
documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide
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NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are
answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being.
NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests.
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Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be
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To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the
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You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message.
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identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID
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server at URL http://www.next.com.
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To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM
and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using
this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com.
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To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965.
Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you
can download NeXTanswers documents.
FOR MORE HELP...
If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available
from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S.
call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician.
If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must
make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a
pay-per-call basis.
Thanks for using NeXTanswers!
Written by:
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Scott Anguish (mailto:sanguish@digifix.com)
Additions from:
Greg Anderson (mailto:Greg_Anderson@afs.com)
Michael Pizolato (mailto:alf@epix.net)
Dan Grillo (mailto:dan_grillo@next.com)
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: When NS4.0?
Date: 15 Jun 1996 13:33:34 GMT
Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany
Message-ID: <4pue3e$rs@turbocat.snafu.de>
References: <Dsu46I.1y2@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> <4ppamk$es5@rcp6.elan.af.mil> <4ps3q0$sam@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) wrote:
(...)
> I hope the feeling on the street is that 4.0 will be a dog, and we should
all
> wait for 4.1. I _hate_ being forced to do upgrades, and would prefer to
wait.
>
4.1 will be called 7.0. That sounds better in the M$-market ;-)
(see WinWord)
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_(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development,
(_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG,
_/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152
(______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail)
From: brouwer@minnie.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Klaus Brouwer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: ~/.AppInfo
Date: 17 Jun 1996 10:48:58 GMT
Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, Germany
Message-ID: <4q3d6q$7jh@zdi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960612090909.2125B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4pretu$je8@zdi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614093720.2754B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
In <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614093720.2754B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
>On 14 Jun 1996, Klaus Brouwer wrote:
>> >I've seen a few apps lately which have ignored this idea, and that bothers
>> >me because, well, it's there, why not use it? I don't remember what apps
>> >they were right now, but anyway, I just wanted to mention it.
>>
>> What do you mean with "lately"? Not even NeXT's own apps (eg. Edit and
>> IB) use .AppInfo. And with such a paragon....no wonder......
>I don't know much about IB, but as far as Edit.app and other NeXT apps,
>they all use the defaults database for their info. ~/.AppInfo is a place
>to store information which is not appropriate for the defaults database,
>such as Fiend's dock and shelf information...
Edit.app stores files like ".commanddict" and ".pipedict" and the expansion
dictionary file (name?) in the users home directory.
Hm. Thinking twice about it these are all developer-mode items....
>If your app needs to drop extra files someplace, why not
>~/.AppInfo/Appname?
I totally agree. But unfortunately the reality is different. Not even all apps
sold by Lighthouse use it, though Diagram! does.
>
>> >Thank you for helping to lower my blood pressure...
>> Thank you for highering my blood preasure now.
>I do not hope to raise it now, but I don't think you really understood my
>original post, which I take 50% blame for....
I think I did :-) I came around the topic a while ago and got angry about NeXT
not sticking to their own advices. Reading your post everything came up again.
Clear Statement: I think it should be done!
Klaus Brouwer,
hoping not to cause an other 50% of confusion.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Date: 17 Jun 1996 10:59:13 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4q3dq1$4ep@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4pok8v$jab@news4.digex.net> <Dt37q1.KtH@spn.ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp>
In-Reply-To: <Dt37q1.KtH@spn.ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp>
On 06/16/96, Shinji Kono wrote:
> Yes, only rich men can use NEXTSTEP in Japan.
>
Hmm, so that doesn't exactly limit the market then, does it! ;-)
Best wishes,
mmalc (who wishes he still had his Japanese salary).
--
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: EOFUserPatch under NS3.2 ?
Date: 16 Jun 1996 13:41:51 GMT
Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany
Message-ID: <4q12uv$42c@nexusgate.tng.oche.de>
References: <4psfvb$osp@news.stealth.net>
velcro@escape.com (David Sinclair) wrote:
>i thought i had read that there was an EOFUserPatch that would allow
>someone running NS3.2 to run applications (like WebObjects 1.0, and
>OmniWeb 2.0) written for NS3.3 -- is this true?
>
>the only patch like this i could find in NextAnswers said it was for
>machines running 3.3 only, so i didn't grab that one....does anyone know
>where i can find what i'm looking for, if in fact it's out there?
This one works perfectly for me. The Readme says, it's for 3.3 only, but the
Installer.app says, it's for 3.2 and 3.3. I have no problems with it using
it since months.
Michael
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From: Tim Triemstra <empath@a.crl.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Backup software: SafetyNet?
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:57:04 -0400
Organization: Alpha Star International
Message-ID: <31C56430.411E@a.crl.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
My company purchased SafetyNet quite a while back for NS 3.2 and
would like to continue to use it. However, it worked ok with
our old external DAT drive but now I'm trying to run it under NS
3.3 for Intel and an Archive Python internal DAT drive. The
SafetyNet program runs (ie: it is a double-FAT binary and it
"runs" under NS Intel 3.3) but it cannot detect the tape drive.
Is there something that must be done to make it detect the
drive? Also, is there a web site for Systemix (the makers of
SafetyNet) or whomever owns the product now?
Finally, if SafetyNet is dead and won't work under this new
configuration (the old drive is dead and I don't want to replace
it) is there any other backup software out there that will work
with my internal Archive Python 25501-XXX DAT drive?
Thanks!
--
Tim Triemstra
empath@a.crl.com
From: bm10009@hermes.cam.ac.uk (Ben Moseley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: 17 Jun 1996 14:18:50 GMT
Organization: University of Cambridge, England
Message-ID: <4q3pga$hnf@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
References: <4pvu6q$f6h@news4.digex.net>
> Regardless of what you choose, for goodness sake, GO GET the $99.00
> Lighthouse suite of apps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You get so much,
> including OpenWrite, for that money, that every edu person should take
> advantage.
>
I'll second that about the edu CD. However....
>
> Generally speaking, OpenWrite is more powerful, has worse importing
> and a worse UI than WriteUp...
This has to be understatement of the year. Whilst most Lighthouse apps are
a real pleasure to use, OpenWrite is a complete pig of an application.
I've just finished writing a 50 page report in it and it was a truly
horrible experience. It's slow, buggy, large and has a hideous UI. In fact
I really struggle to think of anything good about it... footnotes weren't
really an issue for me.
--
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Gonville and Caius College, Cambridge, CB2 1TA. (+44) 1223 332 400
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: zollingj@ripley (John Zollinger)
Subject: Re: Backup software: SafetyNet?
Sender: news@docws001.shl.com
Message-ID: <Dt5KE8.I2E@docws001.shl.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:27:44 GMT
References: <31C56430.411E@a.crl.com>
Organization: SHL Systemhouse Inc.
Tim Triemstra (empath@a.crl.com) wrote:
: My company purchased SafetyNet quite a while back for NS 3.2 and
: would like to continue to use it. However, it worked ok with
: our old external DAT drive but now I'm trying to run it under NS
: 3.3 for Intel and an Archive Python internal DAT drive. The
: SafetyNet program runs (ie: it is a double-FAT binary and it
: "runs" under NS Intel 3.3) but it cannot detect the tape drive.
Did your external DAT work under 3.3? If you just upgraded to 3.3, you
need to make sure you install the SCSI tape drive driver. If you have
this dude installed, and it still doesn't work...
Good luck,
John Zollinger
johnz@usa.net
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: When NS4.0?
Date: 17 Jun 1996 16:09:25 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <4q3vvl$t1v@netty.york.ac.uk>
References: <DszM7p.3Lr@cam-ani.co.uk>
ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) writes:
>> the second quarter extends THROUGH the end of June...
>
> as in driving a truck THROUGH a wall, coming out the other side, and
> keeping going?
err, hate to tell you Ian, but the Americans use 'through' the same way
northerners use 'while'.
on the other hand I'm not gonna put any money on an end of june release either.
-bat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: psi@fortune.nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Message-ID: <Dt5Lu6.FDM@fortune.nest.or.jp>
Sender: psi@fortune.nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki)
Cc: kono@ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp
References: <4pok8v$jab@news4.digex.net> <Dt37q1.KtH@spn.ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:58:54 GMT
We Japanese NeXT's user just talk about price and fonts of NEXTSTEP on
fj.sys.next. If you can read Japanese, please read the newsgroup.
In <Dt37q1.KtH@spn.ie.u-ryukyu.ac.jp> Shinji Kono wrote:
> Not all kanji fonts are expensive. For example, 'J'apanese Windows96's
> price is roughly same as U.S. price. We also have some free kanji fonts.
> NEXTSTEP's Morisawa Font is beatuiful but quite expensive. This is the
> problem.
>
But, Japanese fonts on Win95-J are not PostScript, but True Type.
And, these fonts face are as cheap as their price!
Morisawa's Japanese fonts that NS-J has are beautiful. Not all kanji
fonts are expensive, but most beautiful kanji fonts are expensive.
Yes, I also think that these fonts are very expensive. The price make
NS-J expensive. However, who want dirty cheap fonts ?
> I think we can use free fonts (14x14,16x16,24x24) for DPS, and we
> can use TrueType fonts for print quality. This will make Japanese
> NEXTSTEP 30-40% cheaper. But still much expensive than Windows95.
>
If NS-J becomes 30%-40% cheaper, Will NS-J be sold 30%-40% more ?
IBM is still giant, so they can sell OS/2 Warp cheaper.
But why do you think that little NeXT-Computer...sorry, NeXT-Software
and CANON can go same way.
CANON is a company, not University of the Ryukyus. They are not supported
by our tax, they make their money and earn their daily breads.
If NS-J would be sold more and make more money, they already made the
price cheaper.
Mr. KONO, if you want cheap or free NeXTSTEP environment strongly,
you should help GNU-Step.
> Yes, only rich men can use NEXTSTEP in Japan.
I use NeXTSTEP-J, But ( Because? ), I'm poor;-p
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: psi@fortune.nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki)
Subject: Re: FaxDriver for USRSportster Faxmodem
Message-ID: <Dt5M6J.FGo@fortune.nest.or.jp>
Sender: psi@fortune.nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki)
Cc: tomaz.sustar@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si
References: <4p1rqf$geq@sail.leverkusen.netsurf.de> <31B71456.3A8A@mpr.ca>
<31B802C1.1743@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:06:19 GMT
In <31B802C1.1743@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si> Tomaz Sustar wrote:
> Scott Mewett wrote:
> >
> > JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de wrote:
> > >
> > > How can we all get a driver? email to USRobotics? email to NXFax?
Perhaps everyone who wants to fax with his Sportster should post a news to
this forum and s
> > >
> > > So if anybody is willing to create a driver - do it, I will pay the
shareware-price!
> > >
> >
> > Hi am very interested in one as well. count me in for a one.
> >
> I'm interested too !!!
>
I'm interested too !!!!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
From: psi@fortune.nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Message-ID: <Dt5M1w.FG0@fortune.nest.or.jp>
Sender: psi@fortune.nest.or.jp (SHIROYAMA Takayuki)
Cc: hugues@precipice.fdn.fr
References: <4pnjmn$eln@news4.digex.net> <4pohqo$hht@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
<4pok8v$jab@news4.digex.net> <4pq1na$77@precipice.fdn.fr>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:03:32 GMT
In <4pq1na$77@precipice.fdn.fr> Hugues RICHARD wrote:
> Buuuuuuuut... if NS3.XJ fonts works on NS4.0, I'll be happy !
>
According to the font license agreement, we cannot do;-(
We Japanese "must" buy new fonts.
--
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Psi@fortune.nest.or.jp
From: deniseh@nntp.best.com (Denise Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Backup software: SafetyNet?
Date: 17 Jun 1996 19:47:57 GMT
Organization: Best Internet Communications
Message-ID: <4q4cpd$pcq@nntp1.best.com>
References: <31C56430.411E@a.crl.com>
Tim Triemstra (empath@a.crl.com) wrote:
: My company purchased SafetyNet quite a while back for NS 3.2 and
: would like to continue to use it. However, it worked ok with
: our old external DAT drive but now I'm trying to run it under NS
: 3.3 for Intel and an Archive Python internal DAT drive. The
: SafetyNet program runs (ie: it is a double-FAT binary and it
: "runs" under NS Intel 3.3) but it cannot detect the tape drive.
: Is there something that must be done to make it detect the
: drive? Also, is there a web site for Systemix (the makers of
: SafetyNet) or whomever owns the product now?
If I remember correctly, there's a place in SafetyNet where you must
specify the type of drive you're using.
I don't know about a web site, but brian@systemix.com should get you to
Brian Cuthie, the author.
Denise
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From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Ensoniq Soundscape driver ....
Date: 17 Jun 1996 20:21:46 GMT
Organization: Private NEXTSTEP site, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4q4eoq$4gi@mimi.in-berlin.de>
Hi!
Does anybody knows what about the driver for Ensoniq Soundscape soundsards?
As far as I know there was an announcement for it.
Gerald
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From: jens@ipc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: ~/.AppInfo
Message-ID: <Dt52A7.JJ2@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614093720.2754B-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:56:31 GMT
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes
>
> On 14 Jun 1996, Klaus Brouwer wrote:
> > >I've seen a few apps lately which have ignored this idea, and
that bothers
> > >me because, well, it's there, why not use it?
> If your app needs to drop extra files someplace, why not
> ~/.AppInfo/Appname?
Well, we agree with that and put whatever we don't write into
NetInfo or the UserDatabase into the user's ./AppInfo dir.
We encourage all other software developers to do the same.
so long,
jens ch. gloede
__ _________________________________________________________
interpersonal-computing Imagination. Made in Europe.
NeXT Center Munich http://www.ipc.de/
E-Mail: jens@ipc.de NeXT & MIME Mail ok (int.< 1 MB)
From: mckelvey@suite.com (James_W_McKelvey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cmsg cancel <4q4m3j$4eq@news.onramp.net>
Control: cancel <4q4m3j$4eq@news.onramp.net>
Date: 17 Jun 1996 22:41:16 GMT
Organization: On-Ramp; Individual Internet Connections; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4q4muc$5iq@news.onramp.net>
From: s_fischr@ira.uka.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Good ASCII Editor?
Date: 17 Jun 1996 22:34:26 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Message-ID: <4q4mhi$jpe@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
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Hi out there!
Does anyone know of a *good* *public domain* editor for NSI? I did not like the NSI Emacs very much, since its integration into the gui is rather ... rather strange. Any suggestions?
Thank you!
CU
-JF-
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Good ASCII Editor?
Date: 18 Jun 1996 00:37:42 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4q4tom$sht@news3.digex.net>
References: <4q4mhi$jpe@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
s_fischr@ira.uka.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer) wrote:
> Does anyone know of a *good* *public domain* editor for NSI? I did not
like the NSI Emacs very much, since its integration into the gui is rather
... rather strange. Any suggestions?
What is wrong with Edit.app? I think it is tops!
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
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mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: dayne@wolfenet.com (Dayne Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Samba for NEXTSTEP/Intel?
Date: 18 Jun 1996 01:06:37 GMT
Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C.
Message-ID: <4q4vet$5fs@ratty.wolfe.net>
Is there a graphical Samba client for NEXTSTEP? (And while I'm asking, will
it work on OpenStep 4.0 for Mach?) I need to be able to see WinNT files on
the network -- and we don't have and NT-based NFS running.
Where would I get such a beast?
I need this fairly badly...
-Dayne Miller
dayne@wolfenet.com
"I am saddened -- not by Microsoft's success, I have no problem
with their success, they've earned their success...for the most
part -- I have a problem with the fact that they just make really
third-rate products."
-Steven Paul Jobs
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: offline news and mail reader app(s) for OS
Date: 18 Jun 1996 01:32:08 GMT
Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main
Message-ID: <4q50uo$3fs@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <4p6vmv$glp@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960606155616.3435A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4p9e5g$jg2@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <4pbr5c$hk@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <4pkm68$qn@jnext.dannug.dk>
Jacob Nielsen <jacob@dannug.dk> wrote:
> >>>>> "Uli" == uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) writes:
> Isn't NEXTTOYOU a user group magazine?
That's where it has emerged from, though now it is more of a general NEXTSTEP
magazine not bound to a user group. For more information, have a look at
http://www.pfm.de/wing/
(This site will be updated the next weekend or so! Right now, some
informations are outdated... :-( )
> Then, perhaps the article
> could be posted on the WWW or Peanuts for the benefit of those
> that can read german?
Sorry, right now that's not possible for a variety of reasons. You may,
however, order exactly the two issues of NEXTTOYOU that describe PersonalINN.
See the PersonalINN Readme and installation files.
BTW: Though the official announcement will be a few days later, you will find
PersonalINN in
ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/96.2-Sommer/
starting with June 21st.
Bye
Uli
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_____________________________________________________________________
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: offline news and mail reader app(s) for OS
Date: 18 Jun 1996 01:20:07 GMT
Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main
Message-ID: <4q5087$3fs@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <4p6vmv$glp@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> <Pine.NXT.3.93.960606155616.3435A-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <4p9e5g$jg2@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <4pbr5c$hk@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <DsuBF7.7C@luck.shnet.org>
pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler) wrote:
> uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote:
> >I just want to mention that in a few days, v1.0 of PersonalINN will be
> >submitted to ftp servers.
>
> Besides installation, will it have any advantages over a running C-News
> system?
That's hard for me to answer as I don't know the C-News packages available
for NEXTSTEP too well.
What I can think of is: nov support, ability to post to news servers no
matter if they allow to feed news or don't, immediate sorting of articles (no
batching - you can already read while articles are coming in), comfortable
GUI browser to select newsgroups and set expiration (will be available later
on) and maybe something else...
In general, if you have a working NNTP server installation, I don't think you
should change.
Bye
Uli
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From: mdrift@sqasun5 (Marc Driftmeyer (Temp))
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: where to buy NextStep-student
Date: 18 Jun 1996 01:57:05 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4q52dh$bfr@news.next.com>
References: <humanist-1006961450440001@ts3port26.port.net>
Cc: humanist@interport.net
In <humanist-1006961450440001@ts3port26.port.net> Michael Howard wrote:
> I've been looking everywhere for someone selling NextStep student edition
> and can't find it. Any pointers for a place with good prices?
>
>
Check out NASCORP on the Internet or your local University Computer Store.
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: When NS4.0?
Date: 17 Jun 1996 21:53:29 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4q4k4p$qqu@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <Dsu46I.1y2@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu> <4ppamk$es5@rcp6.elan.af.mil> <4ps3q0$sam@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) wrote:
> chongl%sc@mhs.elan.af.mil wrote:
> : tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) wrote:
>
> : > When is NS4.0 going to be released?
>
> : According to a next salesperson, it should be out in two weeks.
>
> I hope the feeling on the street is that 4.0 will be a dog, and
> we should all wait for 4.1. I _hate_ being forced to do upgrades,
> and would prefer to wait.
Let's see. If NS-4.0 is a dog and no one buys it because they
are all told to wait for NS-4.1, what do you think the chances
are that there will *be* a 4.1?
If you prefer to wait, then just wait before buying the upgrade.
Who is going to "force" you to buy into it? It seems bizzare
to *wish* that the new release is a dog.
---
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Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de>
Subject: fortune and creating .dat files
Message-ID: <7xn322vvi7.fsf@burrow.muc.de>
Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de
Organization: caring for little Tigers
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 23:52:32 GMT
Hi!
A nice 'fortune' always brightens up my day. Recently I discovered a
(Linux) distribution with quotes galore. My problem: this
distribution requires strfile to "create a random access file for
storing strings". I don't have strfile and I can't compile it as it
comes with said distribution.
Does anyone know a solution, either for compiling the Linux
distribution (late September 1995 by Amy A. Lewis) or for creating
required .dat files?
Thanks in advance,
markus g
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From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Message-ID: <1996Jun18.094913.46624@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
Date: 18 Jun 96 09:49:13 MET
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614094610.2754C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland
In article <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614094610.2754C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>, "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
> I was just looking at the WriteUp demo, and was disappointed at 2 things:
...
> So far, I'm not sure what I'd want to pay $175 (student) for in WriteUp,
> especially if the Word docs can't be read (which is my main need which
> WordPerfect on NeXT can't do).
...
> Well, I'm off to download OpenWrite...
> Timothy J. Luoma (Formerly known as: luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu)
>
> New email address: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (No NeXTmail)
> *** Please note: the new address cannot read the 'reply-to' line ***
I have tried out both WriteUp and OpenWrite (this a little more)
and am not happy with both of them. So I still use WriteNow at the
moment (supports footnotes ;-) for smaller documents, cause I'm
doing the big stuff with LaTex, so this is no problem for me.
But a new software company is just releasing a new WP for NeXT
(Cedar Text Suite). It should start betatesting at the end of June
I guess (I subscribed for the test, will try to post results as
soon as I have the program and played with it)
Perhaps we will get a working WP for the NeXT in the near future...
Daniel
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Universitaet Basel
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From: s_fischr@ira.uka.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Good ASCII Editor?
Date: 18 Jun 1996 09:54:36 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Message-ID: <4q5ucs$ne6@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
References: <4q4mhi$jpe@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <4q4tom$sht@news3.digex.net>
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John Kheit (jkheit@cnj.digex.net) wrote:
: s_fischr@ira.uka.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer) wrote:
: > Does anyone know of a *good* *public domain* editor for NSI? I did not
: like the NSI Emacs very much, since its integration into the gui is rather
: ... rather strange. Any suggestions?
: What is wrong with Edit.app? I think it is tops!
Well, I miss some cursor movement options, like page up/down etc. Generally speaking, I think
Edit.app lets you grap the mouse too often for a text editor.
CU
-JF-
--
s_fischr@ira.uka.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 'J'apaneese versions, are they the same?
Message-ID: <Dt6GC6.ML@papageno.rim.or.jp>
Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU)
Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN
References: <4prc5f$o1l@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 03:57:41 GMT
In article <4prc5f$o1l@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford
<m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes:
: On 06/13/96, Mark Bessey wrote:
: > John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes
: > > Can anyone tell me if the Japaneese versions of NEXTSTEP work the same
: > > as the regular english version, if I select the english language for
: > > some accounts and Japaneese account for others?
: > Pretty much the same. For instance, I'm running on a "J" system right now,
: > and in English, it looks and acts the same as the "non-J" version.
: >
: > > And if I'm in an english account, will I be able to worked with
: > > japaneese text as well...I.E. if I'm in OmniWeb in an english account
: > > and come to a Japaneese page, will it come up properly, or only while
: > > I'm in a Japaneese account.
I'm using NEXTSTEP 3.2J with the language preference set to
English as the first language and Japanese as the second
language. So far no native(English) and Japanese applications
refuse to run in this mode. However, some panels including
printer and spelling are displayed in Japanese.
: > I'm having a little trouble with OmniWeb right now, but many (most?)
: > applications will "do the right thing" if you have a Kanji font set as the
: > default font...
You may have to convert the character code into EUC to see
most Japanese Web pages by OmniWeb1.0. The character
conversion as well as caching can be performed by DeleGate.
ftp://etlport.etl.go.jp/pub/DeleGate/delegate*.tar.gz
Please note that the latest version of OmniWeb is reported to
fail to display Japanese Web pages correctly.
Netscape navigator in SoftPC with Win/V is another solution
to see Japanese Web pages, which is possible also in native
NS INTEL.
: >
: > > Also, does anyone know when we should expect OPENSTEP 4.0J?
: >
: > I do, but I can't tell you. OPENSTEP/J will be available some time after
: > the "non-J" version of OPENSTEP ships...
: >
: and elsewhere:
: >
: > Well, you're not wrong - there are no Japanese fonts in OPENSTEP
: > 4.0. There is also no Japanese input manager (the software that
: > lets you type Japanese characters)
: >
: > So, there still needs to be a "J" version of OPENSTEP.
: >
: :-(
:
: My apologies for my misunderstanding and hence misinformation...
:
: However...
:
: So I can understand where I got confused, I wonder if we're talking at
: crossed-purposes? I got the impression from chaps (well, one chap in
: particular) at Canon/Japan that (primarily because of Unicode support) the
: *code base* for 4.0 would be the same for both the English and Japanese
: versions.
:
: Is this true?
:
: I can understand the reason for there still being seperate "product" releases
: as the J version will, as you say, require additions (*expensive*) fonts, and
: an input app (which costs money to develop), but I *thought* that in theory
: if you bought the fonts seperately you could see kanji on OS-4 regular, and
: if you got hold of or developed your own input app, you could then mock up
: your own OS-4J...?
:
: Is this the case?
:
Canon adds more to implement Japanese versions of NS3.x.
First, we have Japanese versions of csh, grep, awk, sed,
ls,... in the /usr/nje/bin directory, which may be
substituted by free software. Second, we must switch the shared
libraries to Japanese one to use, for example, NewGrazer.app.
Third, the file system management is modified to implement
Japanese file names.
If the OS4.0 is really multi-lingual, these complications
should be disappeared. And by adding specific language
packages(fonts, input managers, etc) one could choose the
language by the preference. (Isn't it smarter than having
Japanese Windouze, Chinese Windouze, etc?)
If this is the case, I believe NeXT has some chance to get
into potentially huge market of East-Asian language software.
---
Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji
hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB)
From: David Green <david@legion.apana.org.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: 18 Jun 1996 12:13:06 GMT
Organization: Australian Public Access Network Association
Message-ID: <4q66gi$otb@hock.apana.org.au>
References: <4pvu6q$f6h@news4.digex.net> <4q3pga$hnf@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <4q3pga$hnf@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Organisation: Sargood Manor
On 06/18/96, in message [<4q3pga$hnf@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>], Ben Moseley
reckoned that:
>> Generally speaking, OpenWrite is more powerful, has worse importing
>> and a worse UI than WriteUp...
>
>This has to be understatement of the year. Whilst most Lighthouse apps
are
>a real pleasure to use, OpenWrite is a complete pig of an application.
>I've just finished writing a 50 page report in it and it was a truly
>horrible experience. It's slow, buggy, large and has a hideous UI. In
fact
OK, I agree with the opening statement re the relative merits of the two
packages (I have and use both).
I disagree with the assertion that OpenWrite is "... a complete pig of an
application...". You have to remember that Lighthouse aquired OpenWrite
from another company who had a different idea about how such an application
should work. It can be slow to respond sometimes, it is not the most
gee-whiz, attractive program, BUT, it does work and I have used it to
prepare not only my Master's thesis (almost 100 pages), but also several
papers for work. Once you take the time to set up styles and other
configurables, it works well. Not brilliantly, but well.
If WriteUp had a few more features (i.e. tables, footnotes, TOC, etc.) I'd
probably use it more. As it is, I do most of my correspondence and short
writing work in it.
--
David Green | Tel: +61 3 9827-6283 | david@legion.apana.org.au
Melbourne, Australia| Fax: +61 3 9827-5876 | (NeXTMail & MIME accepted)
PGP key from: pgp-public-keys@sw.oz.au
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
What opinions?
From: Holger.Hoffstaette@schwaben.de (Holger Hoffstaette)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Good ASCII Editor?
Date: 18 Jun 1996 12:24:32 GMT
Organization: home
Message-ID: <4q6761$av1@gate.seicom.net>
References: <4q4mhi$jpe@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <4q4tom$sht@news3.digex.net>
John Kheit wrote:
> s_fischr@ira.uka.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer) wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a *good* *public domain* editor for NSI? I did not
> like the NSI Emacs very much, since its integration into the gui is rather
> ... rather strange. Any suggestions?
>
> What is wrong with Edit.app? I think it is tops!
..except that it's got no page scrolling, customizable keys, macros,
insert/overwrite..
Holger
--
Holger Hoffsttte // Holger.Hoffstaette@schwaben.de (MIME/NeXT/Sun/PGP)
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Good ASCII Editor?
Date: 18 Jun 1996 09:48:58 GMT
Organization: The University of York, UK
Message-ID: <4q5u2a$evu@netty.york.ac.uk>
References: <4q4tom$sht@news3.digex.net>
John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes:
> s_fischr@ira.uka.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer) wrote:
>> Does anyone know of a *good* *public domain* editor for NSI? I did not
> like the NSI Emacs very much, since its integration into the gui is rather
>
> What is wrong with Edit.app? I think it is tops!
What's wrong with 'vi' for that matter if all you are doing is editing ASCII.
-bat.
From: travis@acmez.gatech.edu (Travis Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Where can I get patch?
Date: 18 Jun 1996 15:19:28 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Message-ID: <4q6he0$58t@catapult.gatech.edu>
I'm trying to install X11 and I need the 'patch' program. The README
file for the source patch for the next claims that it is easy to find,
however I can't seem to locate. Can someone point me to it?
Thanks,
Travis
--
Travis Jones
Georgia Institute of Technology - Operations & Engineering
travis@oit.gatech.edu - (404)894-4230
http://www.gatech.edu/oit/oe/coop/travis
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Good ASCII Editor?
Date: 18 Jun 1996 17:33:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <4q6p8f$p7e@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
References: <4q4mhi$jpe@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <4q4tom$sht@news3.digex.net> <4q6761$av1@gate.seicom.net>
In-Reply-To: <4q6761$av1@gate.seicom.net>
On 06/17/96, Holger Hoffstaette wrote:
> John Kheit wrote:
>> s_fischr@ira.uka.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer) wrote:
>> > Does anyone know of a *good* *public domain* editor for NSI? I did not
>> like the NSI Emacs very much, since its integration into the gui is rather
>> ... rather strange. Any suggestions?
>>
>> What is wrong with Edit.app? I think it is tops!
>
>...except that it's got no page scrolling, customizable keys, macros,
>insert/overwrite..
>
>Holger
>--
>Holger Hoffsttte // Holger.Hoffstaette@schwaben.de (MIME/NeXT/Sun/PGP)
>
>
Edit does support some limited emacs key binding and page up/down function
(Alt+click the up/down arrow). Maybe, it is not enough for some people but to
me Edit is the best; especially, with Edit you also have file/directory name
completion, expansion dictionary (my favorite), structure
contraction/expansion, RTF, etc. (I only wish Edit could do color
highlighting.)
Anyway, if you don't like a GUI editor, you can always go back to emacs (the
one from your CDROM) that does all the things you asked.
--
----------------
Yuwen Cheng
University of Arizona, Math
yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: tremblay_michel@tandem.com (Pierre-Michel Tremblay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help: Screaming cc compiler using Lex&Yacc.
Date: 18 Jun 1996 17:57:31 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers
Message-ID: <4q6qmb$af@news.mpd.tandem.com>
Bonjour all,
I'm a novice interested in using Lex and Yacc. I went on the tutorial
located at URL: http://www.ee.ic.ac.uk/course/advanced/lex/lex.html. I've
tried to use their tutorial without success. cc screams at me and I don't
really know what's necessary to get it to run properly. Here are the very
simple steps I followed:
**********
Step 1.
**********
I've modified the makefile to support the cc compiler; not acc. I also took
care of replacing the 8 spaces by a tab. Hence makefile at
http://www.ee.ic.ac.uk/course/advanced/lex/what.html:
setup % cat > makefile
CC= cc
CFlags= -w
LdFlags= -ll
DEMO: $(Project).o
$(CC) $(CFlags) -o DEMO $(Project).o $(LdFlags); make last
$(Project).o: $(Project).c
$(CC) $(CFlags) -c $(Project).c; make last
$(Project).c: $(Project).l
lex -t $(Project).l > $(Project).c; make last
last: # displays most recent file
ls -lt | head -2 | tail -1
clean: # removes intermediate files
rm *.o *.c
.SILENT:
**********
Step 2.
**********
Then, I've wrote this small example and replaced the spaces with tabs:
setup % cat > tr2.l
%%
[A-Z] printf("%c", yytext[0]+'a'-'A');
. ECHO;
**********
Step 3.
**********
Now. Could anyone tell me what's wrong with this? What are the flags I
should use?
% make Project=tr2
-rw-r--r-- 1 pmt 6853 Jun 18 13:47 tr2.c
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: illegal external declaration,
found `.'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: undefined type, found `W'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: illegal external declaration,
missing `;' after `h'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: undefined type, found `W'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: illegal external declaration,
missing `;' after `h'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:2: illegal method selector, found
` diablo 12 pitch
.ds L'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:3: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:4: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:5: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:6: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:7: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:8: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:9: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:11: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:12: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:13: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:14: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:15: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:16: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:17: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:17: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:18: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:19: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:20: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:21: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:22: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:23: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:24: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:25: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:26: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:27: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:27: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:28: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:29: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:30: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in character constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:31: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:31: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:31: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:31: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:31: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:32: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in character constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:33: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in character constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:36: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:36: warning: numeric constant
contains digits beyond the radix
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:36: illegal method definition,
missing `{' after `SMI'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:36: undefined type, found `from'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:36: illegal external declaration,
missing `;' after `UCB'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:37: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:37: illegal method definition,
found `mark'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:39: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:40: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:42: warning: nondigits in number
and not hexadecimal
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:43: warning: nondigits in number
and not hexadecimal
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:44: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:45: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:46: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:47: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:47: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:47: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:47: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:47: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:47: warning: nondigits in number
and not hexadecimal
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:11: illegal method definition,
missing `{' after `ptrdiff_t'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: illegal external declaration,
found `.'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: undefined type, found `W'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: illegal external declaration,
missing `;' after `h'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: undefined type, found `W'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: illegal external declaration,
missing `;' after `h'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:1: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:2: illegal method selector, found
` diablo 12 pitch
.ds L'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:3: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:4: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:5: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:6: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:7: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:8: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:9: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:11: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:12: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:13: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:14: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:15: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:16: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:17: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:17: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:18: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:19: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:20: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:21: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:22: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:23: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:24: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:25: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:26: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:27: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:27: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:28: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in string constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:29: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:30: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in character constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:31: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:31: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:31: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:31: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:31: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:32: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in character constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:33: warning: ANSI C forbids
newline in character constant
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:36: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:36: warning: numeric constant
contains digits beyond the radix
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:36: illegal method definition,
missing `{' after `SMI'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:36: undefined type, found `from'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:36: illegal external declaration,
missing `;' after `UCB'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:37: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:37: illegal method definition,
found `mark'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:39: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:40: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:42: warning: nondigits in number
and not hexadecimal
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:43: warning: nondigits in number
and not hexadecimal
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:44: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:45: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:46: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:47: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:47: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:47: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:47: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:47: stray '\' in program
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:47: warning: nondigits in number
and not hexadecimal
/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/i386/stdtypes.h:22: illegal method definition,
missing `{' after `)'
*** Exit 1
Stop.
From: Tim Triemstra <empath@a.crl.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Printing Addresses folders
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:52:20 -0400
Organization: Alpha Star International
Message-ID: <31C6ECD4.61B@a.crl.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Is there a tool available to print out the address folders (used
for FAXing and other things) under NeXT?
Any help would be appreciated. We would like a listing of all
names and fax/phone numbers we've entered (a huge number :)
--
Tim Triemstra
empath@a.crl.com
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: 18 Jun 1996 18:23:50 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4q6s7m$k2n@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4pvu6q$f6h@news4.digex.net> <4q3pga$hnf@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <4q66gi$otb@hock.apana.org.au>
In-Reply-To: <4q66gi$otb@hock.apana.org.au>
On 06/18/96, David Green wrote:
> I disagree with the assertion that OpenWrite is "... a complete pig of an
> application...". You have to remember that Lighthouse aquired OpenWrite
> from another company who had a different idea about how such an application
> should work. It can be slow to respond sometimes, it is not the most
> gee-whiz, attractive program, BUT, it does work and I have used it to
> prepare not only my Master's thesis (almost 100 pages), but also several
> papers for work. Once you take the time to set up styles and other
> configurables, it works well. Not brilliantly, but well.
>
Umm, I fail to see why the fact that OW was acquired from another company
(Xanthus) should exhonerate them from accusations of producing a poor
interface.
I complained to Xanthus that the interface was clunky, and it's saddening
that Lighthouse haven't yet been able to work their magic on it -- WriteUp is
still way more elegant. However, as you say, it gets a lot done.
***
Please note: to Lighthouse's credit, version 2.1 (who saw the announcement --
what announcement?!) supports footnotes.
***
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: Dayne Miller <dayne@wolfenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:41:08 -0700
Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C.
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.93.960618133623.4677B-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Check out the notice on Lighthouse's site.
I can't quite decide if this is a good thing or not. Good if it means an
OpenStep developer doesn't need to worry about funding -- bad if it loses
too much autonomy or has its software "committeed" to death by a
corporate giant.
It *sounds* like Lighthouse will remain fairly independant, but who knows?
Comments
-Dayne Miller
dayne@wolfenet.com
From: John A. Maier <johnam@beta.datastorm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: gcc for NeXT (i386) does it exist?
Date: 18 Jun 1996 23:34:54 GMT
Organization: Datastorm
Message-ID: <4q7eeu$qsg@beta.datastorm.com>
gcc seems to be avaialbe for every UNIX. So is gcc available for NS?
Since I'm running the stock NS, is there a precompiled package out
on the net somewhere?
jam
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From: thrall@serv.net (Dean Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Using Concurrence for HTML
Date: 18 Jun 1996 23:42:15 GMT
Organization: ServNet Internet Services
Message-ID: <4q7esn$9dj@brockman.serv.net>
Is anybody using Lighthouse's Concurrence for creating HTML pages? I
noticed that their web page states that it will save HTML and they
have a demo up, but I can't find out how to do it. I am using verion
2.75 and there is no mention of it in the online help.
Hints/tips appreciated.
dean
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: .gz files
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:16:48 -0400
Organization: worldbank
Message-ID: <31C75500.2AA7@worldbank.org>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
OK, so my hard disk died an ugly ugly death, and I'm trying to get my
system back together. Problem: I went to get a lot of my favorite
utilities and stuff off the archives, but they're all .gz files.
Including Opener. Do I have what I need on my black 3.2 system to
uncompress these files or am I stuck in a Catch-22?
Stefano
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: frank@OneVision.de (Frank Pohl)
Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat PDF files on Next?
Message-ID: <Dt76sw.2wt@onevision.de>
Sender: news@onevision.de
Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:29:20 GMT
In comp.sys.next.software article
<slrn4s3l2b.dpv.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com> jbn wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:14:58 GMT, p25231@email.mot.com <p25231@email.mot.com>
wrote:
> > Does anyone know how I can view .pdf files on my Next?
>
-snip-
> If you want good mainstream word processing or DTP related software, go to
> the Mac or Windows.
jbn,
have a look on ePScript from OneVision - please!!!!;-)
From: leonvs@occam.com (Leon Michel von Stauber)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: where to buy NextStep-student
Date: 19 Jun 1996 02:06:44 GMT
Organization: Zilker Internet Park, Inc.
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4q7nbk$pbe@hackberry.zilker.net>
References: <humanist-1006961450440001@ts3port26.port.net>
Cc: humanist@interport.net
In <humanist-1006961450440001@ts3port26.port.net> Michael Howard wrote:
> I've been looking everywhere for someone selling NextStep student edition
> and can't find it. Any pointers for a place with good prices?
You can buy it new from Optimal Object. I believe you can find them now at
http://www.optimal-object.com/. It's about $324 with tax, for NS 3.3 User
and Developer, and EOF.
You can also often find really good prices on used copies in
comp.sys.next.marketplace.
____________________________________________________________________
Leon von Stauber http://www.occam.com/leonvs/
Occam's Razor, Game Designer <leonvs@occam.com>
Zilker Internet Park, System Admin <leonvs@zilker.net>
"We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!"
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Printing Addresses folders
Date: 19 Jun 1996 02:25:22 GMT
Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main
Message-ID: <4q7oei$18p@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>
References: <31C6ECD4.61B@a.crl.com>
Tim Triemstra <empath@a.crl.com> wrote:
> Is there a tool available to print out the address folders (used
> for FAXing and other things) under NeXT?
>
> Any help would be appreciated. We would like a listing of all
> names and fax/phone numbers we've entered (a huge number :)
Very easy. Just double click your address folder but don't select an address.
Then click on "generate RTF file" in the workspace's content inspector -
there you are :-)
Bye
Uli
--
_____________________________________________________________________
Uli Zappe
Lorscher Strasse 5
D-60489 Frankfurt
Germany
Phone: +49 (69) 9784 0007
E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail - Mime - ASCII)
PGP: public key on request
Member of WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group)
_____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: viorel <viorel@pathcom.com>
Subject: Q: Any X11/Motif for NeXTstep on Intel ?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Message-ID: <31C6C1CB.2305@pathcom.com>
Sender: news@news.wrc.xerox.com
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Organization: Xerox
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:48:43 GMT
Hi, all !
Does anyone know of a X11 server shareware running
under NeXTSTEP 3.x on Intel ?
What is your experience (performance, development
kit, reliability) ?
How these compare with X11/Motif on Linux or X11 on
FreeBSD/NetBSD ?
Any clarifications and/or pointers will be
appreciated
Reply to:
Viorel Chita (viorel@pathcom.com)
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: .gz files
Date: 19 Jun 1996 04:25:27 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <4q7vfn$spa@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
References: <31C75500.2AA7@worldbank.org>
In-Reply-To: <31C75500.2AA7@worldbank.org>
On 06/18/96, Stefano Pagiola wrote:
>OK, so my hard disk died an ugly ugly death, and I'm trying to get my
>system back together. Problem: I went to get a lot of my favorite
>utilities and stuff off the archives, but they're all .gz files.
>Including Opener. Do I have what I need on my black 3.2 system to
>uncompress these files or am I stuck in a Catch-22?
>
>Stefano
>
A file with extension .gz is compressed by gzip (GNU version of zip). To
decompress such file, you can try the command
/usr/bin/gunzip filename.gz
Or if the file has extension .tar.gz, use the command
/usr/bin/gnutar zxvf filename.tar.gz
Hopefully, this can help.
--
----------------
Yuwen Cheng
University of Arizona, Math
yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: 19 Jun 1996 06:42:17 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4q87g9$du6@news4.digex.net>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614094610.2754C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1996Jun18.094913.46624@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas) wrote:
> In article
<Pine.NXT.3.93.960614094610.2754C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>,
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> writes:
> But a new software company is just releasing a new WP for NeXT (Cedar
Text Suite). It should start betatesting at the end of June I guess (I
subscribed for the test, will try to post results as soon as I have the
program and played with it)
> Perhaps we will get a working WP for the NeXT in the near future...
Wow, this is truly great news!!! I think a great marketing move for them
would be to have a FREE beta test to get everyone hooked, and then drop the
hammer on us hooked users with the release...not to mention it will get a
better beta test...
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Good ASCII Editor?
Date: 19 Jun 1996 06:43:39 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4q87ir$du6@news4.digex.net>
References: <4q4mhi$jpe@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <4q4tom$sht@news3.digex.net> <4q6761$av1@gate.seicom.net>
Holger.Hoffstaette@schwaben.de (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote:
> John Kheit wrote:
> > s_fischr@ira.uka.de (Hans-Joerg Fischer) wrote:
> > What is wrong with Edit.app? I think it is tops!
> ..except that it's got no page scrolling, customizable keys, macros,
insert/overwrite..
Ok, fair enough, I forget some folks are faster w/ the keyboard than the
mouse :)
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: pfkeb@hpkaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz)
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
In-Reply-To: Dayne Miller's message of Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:41:08 -0700
Message-ID: <PFKEB.96Jun18214627@hpkaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Sender: news@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
References: <Pine.OSF.3.93.960618133623.4677B-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 04:46:27 GMT
This annoucement is one of my biggest surpises in a long while. I
was just about ready to write-off Sun's committement to OpenStep.
Now they buy a vendor who is probably ready to deliver OpenStep
desktop applications. I mean, if I remeber correctly, Ligthhouse was
at the SunWorld Expo last year.
Why would Lighthouse be willing to sell, and what prompted Sun to
buy? On the one hand, Lighthouse should be in good position with
applications ready for OpenStep/Solaris. On the other hand, Sun has
not been previously in the business of selling speadsheets,
wordprocessor, diagraming tools, etc which represent the Lighthouse
product line.
Can you imagine talking with your Sun Sales Rep about presentation
tools for your Sparc Ultra. And he tells you that *they* have this
really niffy application but you first have to buy NEO/OpenStep to run
it.
I can't believe this. Sun is offering you `office automation'
tools under Solaris not by pointing out the number of third party
ports of well known MS/Windows applicatons, but by offering you their
own applications which happen to run under NEO/OpenStep only.
--
Paul F. Kunz Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu (NeXT mail ok)
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, Stanford University
Voice: (415) 926-2884 (NeXT) Fax: (415) 926-3587
From: 3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 19 Jun 1996 07:34:04 GMT
Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany
Message-ID: <4q8ahd$7sb@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
References: <Pine.OSF.3.93.960618133623.4677B-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com>
Dayne Miller (dayne@wolfenet.com) wrote:
: Check out the notice on Lighthouse's site.
: I can't quite decide if this is a good thing or not. Good if it means an
: OpenStep developer doesn't need to worry about funding -- bad if it loses
: too much autonomy or has its software "committeed" to death by a
: corporate giant.
I think it is bad. To make maximum profit Sun probably will drop Lighthouse's
support for NeXTstep and focus on Openstep. A port of their products to
GNUstep (if that will ever be an alternative to NeXTstep) is also getting
more or less uncertain. I think Sun will use Lighthouse to deliver an
office suite for NEO. Sadly NeXT didn't buy Lighhouse...
Eberhard
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From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda)
Subject: cancel
Message-ID: <Dt8oFD.H1u@AWT.NL>
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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:47:37 GMT
cancel
From: thor@zems.fer.hr (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: What NeXT archives do email ftp?
Date: 19 Jun 1996 09:53:01 GMT
Organization: CARNet, CROATIA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4q8ilt$bhm@bagan.srce.hr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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Hi.
I've left my cosy existance with Megabit lines and millisecund
turnaround times in Norway for the sunny beaches but almost
non-existant network of Croatia, and am having really a
difficult time getting _any_ new software from the net.
The only reliable protocoll is e-mail; ftp, www, gopher,
etc out of the country all drop connection because of
timeouts and overload. The national lines out are
all gatewayed through one single machine and as I've
been told it's quite a limited line (not even a T1
link as I understand...)
So, I know I really should just go to the beach, but
there are many things I would like to get up and
running on my NeXT (like the new PopOver, OmniWeb,
DataPhile which I've paid for but haven't been
able to download, etc etc) and am not able to because
ftp/www aren't reliable. Several kind soles have
been nice enough to email me new versions of their
programs, other informed me that the package was
too large to be emailed.
What I would like to know is where/how I can access
next-ftp.peak.org, peanuts, and the new MusicKit
home from ftp-by-email. I would really appreciate
any help anyone could give.
Regards,
Thor Legvold
Former NeXT sysadmin, user group leader and musician
Currently in exile in Croatia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda)
Subject: Old Mandelbrot.app using DSP chip
Message-ID: <Dt919A.Hyw@AWT.NL>
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:24:46 GMT
I am looking for the old Mandelbrot.app, the one using the DSP chip of NeXT
hardware. Is that one somewhere around?
Thanks,
--
Gerben Wierda,
From: foster@aix1.uottawa.ca (Peter Foster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Using Concurrence for HTML
Date: 19 Jun 1996 14:23:31 GMT
Organization: University of Ottawa
Message-ID: <4q92h3$hmk@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>
References: <4q7esn$9dj@brockman.serv.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Dean Johnson (thrall@serv.net) wrote:
: Is anybody using Lighthouse's Concurrence for creating HTML pages? I
: noticed that their web page states that it will save HTML and they
: have a demo up, but I can't find out how to do it. I am using verion
: 2.75 and there is no mention of it in the online help.
I believe that that functionality begins with v 2.8.
Peter
From: lusty@aimnet.com (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: 19 Jun 1996 07:57:06 -0700
Organization: Aimnet Corporation
Message-ID: <4q94g2$e26@shell1.aimnet.com>
References: <Pine.OSF.3.93.960618133623.4677B-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <PFKEB.96Jun18214627@hpkaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
In article <PFKEB.96Jun18214627@hpkaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>,
Paul F. Kunz <Paul_Kunz@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> This annoucement is one of my biggest surpises in a long while. I
>was just about ready to write-off Sun's committement to OpenStep.
>Now they buy a vendor who is probably ready to deliver OpenStep
>desktop applications. I mean, if I remeber correctly, Ligthhouse was
>at the SunWorld Expo last year.
>
> Why would Lighthouse be willing to sell, and what prompted Sun to
>buy? On the one hand, Lighthouse should be in good position with
>applications ready for OpenStep/Solaris. On the other hand, Sun has
>not been previously in the business of selling speadsheets,
>wordprocessor, diagraming tools, etc which represent the Lighthouse
>product line.
What if Lighthouse were to go to Sun and say something like "We are
the only significant ISV remaining in the NeXT market. The NeXT market
sucks. Our business is not viable in such a market. If you want to
have any productivity apps to go along with Openstep/Solaris once you
finally ship it, you might want to buy us out now, because we just might
not be around until then."
Lusty
(This is not my analysis of the situation, however it's the most logical
one I've heard)
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: 19 Jun 1996 14:45:29 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4q93q9$13t@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <Pine.OSF.3.93.960618133623.4677B-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <4q8ahd$7sb@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
Cc: 3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de
In <4q8ahd$7sb@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Eberhard Wolff wrote:
> Dayne Miller (dayne@wolfenet.com) wrote:
> : I can't quite decide if this is a good thing or not. Good if it means
an
> : OpenStep developer doesn't need to worry about funding -- bad if it
loses
> : too much autonomy or has its software "committeed" to death by a
> : corporate giant.
>
> I think it is bad. To make maximum profit Sun probably will drop
Lighthouse's
> support for NeXTstep and focus on Openstep. A port of their products to
> GNUstep (if that will ever be an alternative to NeXTstep) is also
getting
> more or less uncertain. I think Sun will use Lighthouse to deliver an
> office suite for NEO. Sadly NeXT didn't buy Lighhouse...
Based on the press releases, this is a unit run by Jonathan Schwartz,
which is effectively Lighthouse as a new division of Sun, reporting to
their chief technology officer. References are made to OO expertise in
the quotes.
I would hazard a guess that there are three possible reasons Sun may have
done this:
- OO expertise
Meaning they are acquiring an organisation and people who have the
capability to develop products using OO technology (which means Neo and
Java to Sun). I wold guess the emphasis is on Java. I don't see that Sun
would desperately need an in-house design facility for consulting; they
probably have bigger resources than Lighthouse already. But product
design is another game entirely.
- NeXTSTEP Products
Which would logically imply Neo products. Possible, I guess. But a
product that requires you to buy a $x00 run-time (NeoDesktop), if that is
still the plan, won't get very far. BTW, for this reason alone NeXT
buying Lighthouse would have been a major disaster. It is possible to own
the main ISV for your OS, as Apple have done, and as have IBM, but it
requires excellent and independent management to work.
- Web Products
This wasn't mentioned, but the thought of having server and client Java
products must be the main motivation for this sale. Java isn't just for
the Web, and Sun are well aware of this. An excellent positioning ploy, I
would say.
If I am right, expect more, non-NeXT related, products from Lighthouse to
be announced relatively soon. As an independent business unit, I think
Lighthouse will retain enough of their history to keep NeXTSTEP products
going, although they don't really have to. It is all a matter of loyalty
to their customers.
Paul
--
Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk
Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems
Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: "Bill Stevenson" <stevenso@infonet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Helpdesk Software
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:23:04 -0500
Organization: GDS Engineers, Inc.
Message-ID: <01bb5df3.35e421c0$10a49dcc@wrsteven.infocom.net>
I'm looking for some helpdesk software packages to run on a Netware 4.1
250 user system. We are running Win95 on the client end. If you know of
anything let me
know.
Thanks,
Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: gcc for NeXT (i386) does it exist?
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <Dt97MM.D8H@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:42:22 GMT
References: <4q7eeu$qsg@beta.datastorm.com>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4q7eeu$qsg@beta.datastorm.com>,
John A. Maier <johnam@beta.datastorm.com> wrote:
>gcc seems to be avaialbe for every UNIX. So is gcc available for NS?
>
>Since I'm running the stock NS, is there a precompiled package out
>on the net somewhere?
>
Even if you had gcc compiled for NS it would do you no good withoput
Developer. You'd get hosed on libraries and header files.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki)
Subject: Re: Backup software: SafetyNet?
Message-ID: <Dt8AFo.644@nidat.sub.org>
Sender: news@nidat.sub.org
Cc: empath@a.crl.com
Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany
References: <31C56430.411E@a.crl.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 03:45:24 GMT
In <31C56430.411E@a.crl.com> Tim Triemstra wrote:
> My company purchased SafetyNet quite a while back for NS 3.2 and
> would like to continue to use it. However, it worked ok with
> our old external DAT drive but now I'm trying to run it under NS
> 3.3 for Intel and an Archive Python internal DAT drive. The
> SafetyNet program runs (ie: it is a double-FAT binary and it
> "runs" under NS Intel 3.3) but it cannot detect the tape drive.
>
> Is there something that must be done to make it detect the
> drive? Also, is there a web site for Systemix (the makers of
> SafetyNet) or whomever owns the product now?
>
> Finally, if SafetyNet is dead and won't work under this new
> configuration (the old drive is dead and I don't want to replace
> it) is there any other backup software out there that will work
> with my internal Archive Python 25501-XXX DAT drive?
>
Are you sure the internal DAT drive is configured and reachable from
NEXTSTEP? Does 'mt' work, for instance? If not, run Configure.app first.
On NS/FIP it is not just "boot and run", the kernel only recognizes the
devices it is configured to search for.
--
Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth
Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and
D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked
GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:49:20 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd
Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk
Message-ID: <Dt9AqB.4Ls@cam-ani.co.uk>
References: <4q8ahd$7sb@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
In article <4q8ahd$7sb@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff) writes:
> Dayne Miller (dayne@wolfenet.com) wrote:
> I think it is bad. To make maximum profit Sun probably will drop
> support for NeXTstep and focus on Openstep.
NeXTStep doesn't exist anymore. There is only OpenStep. Prehaps there
will be a bias towards the Sun versions, but it's unlikly that
signifigant changes will be required to run on all platforms. The NeXT
platforms will cost little to release, and generate revenue.
Prehaps Sun are only interested in the apps so they can sell OS's, and
don't see the apps as a profit centre (unlikly given ev eryone else
thinks otherwise), but in that case they want to demootrate the
portability. I they only ship on NEO, it looks bad when they claim
OpenStep is a portable standard.
> A port of their products to
> GNUstep (if that will ever be an alternative to NeXTstep) is also
> more or less uncertain.
If GNUStep ever comes up with the goods, in any sort of practical, and
reliable form then the port should be trivial. Why not release the apps.
GNUStep is the limitation here - tackle the politics when they become
relevant.
> I think Sun will use Lighthouse to deliver an
> office suite for NEO.
duh! I never thought of that!
But Lighthouse were working on OpenStep software anyway. NEO is one of
the key OpenStep platforms. Anything that is good for OpenStep is good
for everyone reguardless of the platform they're using it on. Sun is the
only other available OpenStep implemenation, and for OpenStep to work
(as opposed to NeXT making a profit) it needs to succseed.
>Sadly NeXT didn't buy Lighhouse...
Do you seriously mean this? NeXT buying Lighthouse would kill off a
signifigant number of other ISV's. NeXT needs to encourage developers,
not compete with them. Besides - do you want to pay $25,000 for a word
processor? Not many people can afford NeXT's prices these days...
There are potential problems (conflicts of interest), but if Sun is
showing commitment to thats a good thing.
$an
From: Dayne Miller <dayne@wolfenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:48:07 -0700
Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C.
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.93.960619114520.26366A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com>
References: <4q8ahd$7sb@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> <Dt9AqB.4Ls@cam-ani.co.uk>
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On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Ian Stephenson wrote:
> In article <4q8ahd$7sb@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
> 3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff) writes:
> > Dayne Miller (dayne@wolfenet.com) wrote:
> > I think it is bad. To make maximum profit Sun probably will drop
> > support for NeXTstep and focus on Openstep.
>
Just to clarify the attributions here, I didn't say that. All the quoted
text was from Eberhard rather than me.
Please continue...
-Dayne Miller
dayne@wolfenet.com
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Using Concurrence for HTML (Try WebProjector)
Date: 19 Jun 1996 19:39:57 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <4q9l2d$gdr@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
References: <4q7esn$9dj@brockman.serv.net> <4q92h3$hmk@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>
In-Reply-To: <4q92h3$hmk@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
On 06/19/96, Peter Foster wrote:
>Dean Johnson (thrall@serv.net) wrote:
>: Is anybody using Lighthouse's Concurrence for creating HTML pages?
I
>: noticed that their web page states that it will save HTML and they
>: have a demo up, but I can't find out how to do it. I am using
verion
>: 2.75 and there is no mention of it in the online help.
>
>I believe that that functionality begins with v 2.8.
>
>Peter
>
The word I got from Lighthouse is early Q3 for v2.8.
In the meantime, if you have NetScape 2.x or
OmniWeb 2.x, take a look at my WebProjector software:
http://libra.caup.umich.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WebProjector
Press the DEMO link and then the START button on the
frame on the right
It uses WebObjects to create a slide presentation by filling in a
form. You can take the Concurrence Presentation, Dump it to a bunch of
TIFF files, batch convert them to GIF or JPEG if you want and then
just enter the following into WebProjector:
1. Presentation Title (Optional)
2. Slide URLs (Mandatory)
3. Slide Names/Titles (Optional)
4. Slide Captions (Optional, one line per slide)
5. 65X65 Thumbnail Image URLs (Optional)
If you have WebObjects installed, I can give you WebProjector
for free with a minor condition (Keep my logo intact and
displayed in the same place). In that case you can just
have a link button that automatically fills the form with
a pre-prepared presentation.
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: valmsick@theory3.mpibp.uni-frankfurt.de (Markus van Almsick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: What happend to Millennium Software Inc. (Product: Notebook)
Date: 19 Jun 1996 20:30:04 GMT
Organization: J. W. Goethe-Universitaet Frankfurt/Main
Message-ID: <4q9o0c$dak@grapool30.rz.uni-frankfurt.de>
I am looking for the Software called "Notebook".
It's from:
Milennium Software Labs, Inc
415-321-3720
415-321-3650 (fax)
info@millennium.com
What happend to this company? It seems to be gone!
Does anyone know it's where about?
Is someone else selling the product now?
I'd be grateful for any info!
Thanks, MvA
Markus van Almsick, valmsick@mpibp.uni-frankfurt.de
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Old Mandelbrot.app using DSP chip
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:21:34 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd
Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk
Message-ID: <Dt9C7z.5CL@cam-ani.co.uk>
References: <Dt919A.Hyw@AWT.NL>
In article <Dt919A.Hyw@AWT.NL> G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th.
Wierda) writes:
> I am looking for the old Mandelbrot.app, the one using the DSP chip of
NeXT
> hardware. Is that one somewhere around?
It's on the 3.0 CD if you've got a copy of that (the one in the gold
case). Otherwise I'm sure someone can mail it to you (it's about twice
as fast on back hardware).
$an
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <Dt9KLs.L0q@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 20:22:40 GMT
References: <4q8ahd$7sb@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> <Dt9AqB.4Ls@cam-ani.co.uk>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <Dt9AqB.4Ls@cam-ani.co.uk>,
Ian Stephenson <ians@cam-ani.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <4q8ahd$7sb@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>
>3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff) writes:
>> Dayne Miller (dayne@wolfenet.com) wrote:
>> I think it is bad. To make maximum profit Sun probably will drop
>> support for NeXTstep and focus on Openstep.
>
>NeXTStep doesn't exist anymore. There is only OpenStep. Prehaps there
>will be a bias towards the Sun versions, but it's unlikly that
>signifigant changes will be required to run on all platforms. The NeXT
>platforms will cost little to release, and generate revenue.
>
However, if Lighthouse (a Sun Microsystems company) doesn't make the
"[in]significant changes" then who will? I doubt they will be releasing
source to Diagram! 4.0.
>Prehaps Sun are only interested in the apps so they can sell OS's, and
>don't see the apps as a profit centre (unlikly given ev eryone else
>thinks otherwise), but in that case they want to demootrate the
>portability. I they only ship on NEO, it looks bad when they claim
>OpenStep is a portable standard.
>
Well, I'm hoping for the best from this merger. There are already enough
depressing things to dwell on...
>There are potential problems (conflicts of interest), but if Sun is
>showing commitment to thats a good thing.
>$an
Yep.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: John Rudd <kzin@isc.sjsu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Java For NeXTstep?
Date: 19 Jun 1996 22:13:31 GMT
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <4q9u2b$f2s@nuke.csu.net>
I seem to recall seeing an announcement for a Java programming
environment/Virtual Machine
on the announcements group a month or more ago.. but I can't find that
announcement now.
Does anyone know where such a beast can be found, if it can be found at all?
--
John "kzin" Rudd kzin@email.sjsu.edu http://icb.sjsu.edu/~kzin
=========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============
"And, ironically, that's how the founding fathers expected it to work:
either the government stays clean, or the people shoot them." -- ttk
From: anderss@thoughtport.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Why no 2nd session on Kodak Photo CD?
Date: 20 Jun 1996 00:54:44 GMT
Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc.
Message-ID: <4qa7gk$pvj@chinx4.thoughtport.net>
Why can't I read the second session of a multi-session Kodak Photo CD? The
first reads fine. Thanks.
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: 20 Jun 1996 00:05:58 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4sh5f5.2on.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <4pvu6q$f6h@news4.digex.net> <4q3pga$hnf@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <4q66gi$otb@hock.apana.org.au>
On 18 Jun 1996 12:13:06 GMT, David Green <david@legion.apana.org.au> wrote:
> I disagree with the assertion that OpenWrite is "... a complete pig of an
> application...". You have to remember that Lighthouse aquired OpenWrite
> from another company who had a different idea about how such an application
> should work.
I disagree. Once Lighthouse took over the app, they took on all the praise
and complaints regarding the app. Lighthouse makes changes to OpenWrite
now, it does no good to talk to anyone at Xanthus unless they have control
over the shipping version of the app.
> It can be slow to respond sometimes, it is not the most
> gee-whiz, attractive program, BUT, it does work and I have used it to
> prepare not only my Master's thesis (almost 100 pages)[...]
I've crashed it many times and it has yet to correctly import my MIF
documents (partially because it supports a small subset of what FrameMaker
can do and partially because the filter incorrectly translates that which
both Frame and OpenWrite can do). As for the UI, I fail to see anything
they've done with the app that couldn't have been done in a way that
complies with the NS GUI guidelines.
--
Due to local news server and feed problems, I might not see all followups.
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: 20 Jun 1996 01:15:53 GMT
Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4qa8o9$me8@news.onramp.net>
References: <4q93q9$13t@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
Paul Lynch writes:
> > Dayne Miller wrote:
> > : I can't quite decide if this is a good thing or not.
>..As an independent business unit, I think
> Lighthouse will retain enough of their history to keep NeXTSTEP products
> going, although they don't really have to. It is all a matter of loyalty
> to their customers.
I wonder how many of the main Lighthouse guys own alot of Lighthouse stock,
and among the ones that do, how many will hang around Lighthouse after pocketing
the $$ from the sale.
--
Steve Dekorte "C++/Java, the COBOL of the 90s"
NeXTstep consultant - Anaheim, CA
mailto:dekorte@suite.com (NeXTmail,MIME)
http://www.batech.com/~dekorte/dekorte/index.html
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: 20 Jun 1996 02:57:45 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4qaen9$llb@news4.digex.net>
References: <4q93q9$13t@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <4qa8o9$me8@news.onramp.net>
dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) wrote:
> I wonder how many of the main Lighthouse guys own alot of Lighthouse
stock, and among the ones that do, how many will hang around Lighthouse
after pocketing the $$ from the sale.
This is a big problem with modern capatalism and the equity markets. It
used to be a capatalist had STUFF (machines, buildings, etc.) that allowed
him/her to make their venture competitive. Today, more and more, it is the
people that are the true resource, and you cannot own them like you can
machines... So when these firms get bought out, the most valuable asset,
the people, can fly away and leave you with a worthless incoroporation
certificate. I would imagine that SUN contracted important people to stay
on for certain minimum commitments???
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: gcc for NeXT (i386) does it exist?
Date: 19 Jun 1996 05:35:36 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4q83j8$rij@news.its.com>
References: <4q7eeu$qsg@beta.datastorm.com>
John A. Maier <johnam@beta.datastorm.com> wrote:
> gcc seems to be avaialbe for every UNIX. So is gcc available for NS?
> Since I'm running the stock NS, is there a precompiled package out
> on the net somewhere?
Yes, gcc is available for NS and precompiled versions of GCC exist on the
standard NeXT FTP archives-- check the FAQ.
However, gcc without the system libraries, header files, documentation, and
other compiler tools isn't useful for anything. You pretty much need to
purchase NEXTSTEP Developer if you want to be able to compile software.
(Perhaps this may change when GNUstep is released....the header files and
libraries from there should be adequate substitutes for the ones that NeXT
provides.)
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: 19 Jun 1996 22:33:25 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4q9v7l$son@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <Pine.OSF.3.93.960618133623.4677B-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <PFKEB.96Jun18214627@hpkaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
pfkeb@hpkaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Paul F. Kunz) wrote:
> This annoucement is one of my biggest surpises in a long while.
> I was just about ready to write-off Sun's committement to OpenStep.
> Now they buy a vendor who is probably ready to deliver OpenStep
> desktop applications. I mean, if I remeber correctly, Ligthhouse
> was at the SunWorld Expo last year.
My guess is that this is good news. Not great news, but not
negative news either. If you want to contemplate what really
bad news would be, imagine if Lighthouse decided to close up
shop even though it's the biggest source of shrink-wrap
applications for NeXTSTEP.
> Why would Lighthouse be willing to sell,
They are probably experiencing a slump in sales of NeXTSTEP
related products. The people who would by buying are probably
all waiting to see what NeXTSTEP 4.0 (or OpenStep options)
will look like.
> and what prompted Sun to buy? On the one hand, Lighthouse should
> be in good position with applications ready for OpenStep/Solaris.
> On the other hand, Sun has not been previously in the business
> of selling speadsheets, wordprocessor, diagraming tools, etc
> which represent the Lighthouse product line.
I imagine that Solaris could benefit from having these kinds
of applications available.
> Can you imagine talking with your Sun Sales Rep about
> presentation tools for your Sparc Ultra. And he tells you that
> *they* have this really niffy application but you first have to
> buy NEO/OpenStep to run it.
This is a sticky point. However, it's pretty easy to imagine
that same Sales Rep talking about all these applications to
people who are interested in buying NEO/OpenStep for whatever
other reasons there might be.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Peter.Pregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Peter Pregler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help: Setting the default paper-size in NeXTStep 3.0
Date: 20 Jun 1996 08:30:49 GMT
Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz
Sender: ppregler@tiger5.risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Peter Pregler)
Message-ID: <4qb27p$16nq@alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>
Hi all,
I would like to configure the default paper-size setup for all accounts
on the NeXTStep 3.0 system. Currently, it is set to letter-size but we
here in Austria use A4 as the default size. One can change the
page-layout in certain applications (under format->page-layout) but
there are two problems with this:
1) One has to set it in all user-applications.
2) It is not saved over sessions.
I had a look at what defaults are set via 'dwrite' and I cannot find any
setting that is related to paper-size. Has anyone done this before?
Thanx, Peter.
-------------------------------
Email: Peter.Pregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at
WWW: http://www.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/people/ppregler
From: apuleius@ix.netcom.com(William Grosso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: 20 Jun 1996 04:10:42 GMT
Organization: Netcom
Message-ID: <4qaj02$82t@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>
References: <4q93q9$13t@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <4qa8o9$me8@news.onramp.net> <4qaen9$llb@news4.digex.net>
In <4qaen9$llb@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
writes:
>
>This is a big problem with modern capatalism and the equity
>markets. It used to be a capitalist had STUFF (machines,
>buildings, etc.) that allowed him/her to make their venture
>competitive. Today, more and more, it is the people that are
>the true resource, and you cannot own them like you can
>machines...
This is "a big problem" ?
As one of the non-machines, I find it quite nice.
Cheers,
Andy
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:12:06 +0200
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960620140417.2789B-100000@hphalle4f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614094610.2754C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1996Jun18.094913.46624@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
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On 18 Jun 1996, Daniel Haas wrote:
> But a new software company is just releasing a new WP for NeXT
> (Cedar Text Suite). It should start betatesting at the end of June
> I guess (I subscribed for the test, will try to post results as
> soon as I have the program and played with it)
>
> Perhaps we will get a working WP for the NeXT in the near future...
>
WOOOOOWWWW ! The best news I've ever heard since the announcements of
OpenStep. People are getting more and more depressed reading the news.
Lighthouse aquiring OpenWrite (and the 2.0 version isn't as good as many
hoped it would become due the aquiring) and finally Lighthouse aquired by
SUN (does anybody now expect the prices will be stable?)
Hearing about a new piece of the 'so much hated' shrink wrap applications
in the 'so much focused on mission critical' market of NEXTSTEP makes me
happy and gives me hope for the future. Believe it or not, but with the
announcement of SUN aquiring Lighthouse I was seriously thinking about
switching to the NT world :( I can't commit to the NEXTSTEP market/community
with no support for shrinkwrap applications because I simply hate to run
two OS's (one for shrinkwrap and one for developing). IMHO I don't
believe that Lighthouse will stay the same after the aquiring and I don't
think it will focuse on their shrinkwrap applications any longer.
Hopefully the new product is good and the new company is tough,
Beorny.
--
Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny)
scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/
scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: uhendjx@meaddata.com (Jonathan W. Hendry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 20 Jun 1996 14:48:42 GMT
Organization: Lexis-Nexis, Dayton OH
Message-ID: <4qboca$ifg@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com>
References: <Pine.OSF.3.93.960618133623.4677B-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <PFKEB.96Jun18214627@hpkaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
Paul F. Kunz (pfkeb@hpkaon.SLAC.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: Why would Lighthouse be willing to sell
Why *wouldn't* they be willing to sell? The prospect of continuing
to eke out an existence as a NeXT/Openstep ISV isn't that appealing.
There's certainly little chance of 'making it big', while bankruptcy
is a definite possibility.
Instead, the Lighthouse folks get to cash in, they get a modicum of
security by being part of a much larger corporation, and quite possibly
they might like to move on to new things, which may have been
difficult or unlikely in their NeXTSTEP ISV form.
--
Jonathan W. Hendry Views expressed herein do
Steel Driving Software, Inc. not represent those of
steeldrv@ix.netcom.com Steel Driving Software, Inc.
jon@exnext.com or Lexis-Nexis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: ipaschke@xlan.hil.de (Ingo Paschke)
Subject: Re: fortune and creating .dat files
Message-ID: <DtAL54.3CB@xlan.hil.de>
Organization: private
References: <7xn322vvi7.fsf@burrow.muc.de>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:31:52 GMT
Hi!
markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de> writes:
>A nice 'fortune' always brightens up my day. Recently I discovered a
>(Linux) distribution with quotes galore. My problem: this
>distribution requires strfile to "create a random access file for
>storing strings". I don't have strfile and I can't compile it as it
>comes with said distribution.
Fortune is part of the BSD-"games" package. You should have no problem
getting it from some FTP-Server carrying either 4.4BSD-lite, Free- or
NetBSD. They have some 5 MB or so of fortunes and all required
support-files like strfile.
Ciao,
Ingo.
--
Ingo Paschke
Braunschweig, Germany
[MIME, Nextmail welcome.]
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: 20 Jun 1996 15:56:43 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4qbsbr$rdg@news3.digex.net>
References: <4q93q9$13t@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <4qa8o9$me8@news.onramp.net> <4qaen9$llb@news4.digex.net> <4qaj02$82t@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>
apuleius@ix.netcom.com(William Grosso) wrote:
> In <4qaen9$llb@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes:
> >
> >This is a big problem with modern capatalism and the equity
> >markets. It used to be a capitalist had STUFF (machines,
> >buildings, etc.) that allowed him/her to make their venture
> >competitive. Today, more and more, it is the people that are
> >the true resource, and you cannot own them like you can
> >machines...
> This is "a big problem" ?
> As one of the non-machines, I find it quite nice.
:) :) It is a big problem, if you want to invest in equity :) Kind of
lame if you dump a ton in wall street stocks thinking you bought, say the
number one investment house on wall street, and the day after you buy it,
all the top rainmakers/investment folks that make the company run, leave
and form a competing firm. But yes, it is good for the little guy, if
s/he's got SKIIILLS :)
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Bold/Italic Symbol Font
Date: 20 Jun 1996 16:46:28 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <4qbv94$p4p@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
Hello:
Can anyone tell me if a bold/italic Symbol or similar font
exists? Any pointers are appreciated.
--
Wassim M. Jabi
Doctoral Program in Architecture
University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Blvd
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069
wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail)
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: asr@itsq8.com (Ahmad Al-rasheedan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS4.0 & PPP
Date: 20 Jun 1996 17:09:23 GMT
Organization: International Turnkey Systems
Message-ID: <4qc0k3$34j@info.itsq8.com>
Is PPP built in NS4.0?
Thanx.
From: Arisu Chan <arix@hkstar.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: lost system account
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 02:13:30 +0800
Organization: Hong Kong Star Internet LTD.
Message-ID: <31C994CA.6C9C@hkstar.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
My NeXTstation is runing System Release 3.0. But I just lost all the system account, such
as: agent, bin, uucp, etc.
Is anyone can tell how can I recreate the account?
And, I want to upgrade my system to 3.3, will the system recreate the account for me, If I
install the upgrade?
Thank You
Arisu Chan
From: don@misckit.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WANTED: Beta testers for new version of Balling.app
Date: 20 Jun 1996 18:20:30 GMT
Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <4qc4pe$tg@news.xmission.com>
Since Dimitri Plotnikov didn't have the time or resources to fix
the problem with ADB in Balling.app, he has been kind enough to
allow me to do it. I now have a quad fat version of Balling.app,
built under NEXTSTEP 3.3, that should work on any hardware that
NEXTSTEP 3.3 runs on. Before I make the general public release I
would like to have some people test it to make sure that all is
well and good with the new version.
I'm looking for people with the following hardware to test it:
* Black (Motorola/NeXT) hardware with ADB keyboards only. I have
plenty of non-ADB black hardware here and have already tested
the changes to my satisfaction on that hardware. :-)
* White (Intel) hardware
* Sparc
* HPPA
There will be no compensation for helping test this, other than the
chance to be one of the first kids on the block with a new "toy"
and perhaps an early chance to test a few other games of my own
that I hope to put the finishing touches on soon. (Nothing too
particularly exciting there, to be quite honest.)
If you are interested in beta testing, please send me an email
message telling me what hardware you have and I'll send you the
beta software. Please specify whether you'd like the app sent to
you via MIME, NeXTMail or uuencode. I plan to only send this to
the first two or so people with each hardware type to respond, so
be sure to respond quickly!
Assuming all testers find everything working OK (knock on wood) the
new version is planned to be released to the ftp sites in about a
week or so. This means that if you don't get a chance to be a
tester, you needn't fret too much.
---
Later,
-Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com
<a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: overa@fire.sjsu.edu (ver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Help: How do I connect a MAC laser printer to Next 040?
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:59:02 +0800
Organization: Information Resources and Technology
Message-ID: <overa-2006961059020001@physlab4.sjsu.edu>
I would loke to connect a mac laser printer to a next 040 cube. I know i
can be done just not sure how.
Any help greatly appreciated,
Me :)
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Old Mandelbrot.app using DSP chip
Date: 20 Jun 1996 18:58:58 GMT
Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4qc71i$64r@news.onramp.net>
References: <Dt9C7z.5CL@cam-ani.co.uk>
(Drs G. C. Th. Wierda) writes:
> I am looking for the old Mandelbrot.app, the one using the DSP chip of
> NeXT hardware. Is that one somewhere around?
I think I've seen it on www.next.com.
Look in the heirarchical NeXTanswers area, there should be
a section for tools & unsupported apps or something.
--
Steve Dekorte "C++/Java, the COBOL of the 90s"
NeXTstep consultant - Anaheim, CA
mailto:dekorte@suite.com (NeXTmail,MIME)
http://www.batech.com/~dekorte/dekorte/index.html
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: 20 Jun 1996 19:29:40 GMT
Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4qc8r4$6h7@news.onramp.net>
References: <4qaen9$llb@news4.digex.net>
John Kheit writes:
> Steve Dekorte wrote:
> > I wonder how many of the main Lighthouse guys own alot of Lighthouse
> stock, and among the ones that do, how many will hang around Lighthouse
> after pocketing the $$ from the sale.
>
> This is a big problem with modern capatalism and the equity markets. It
> used to be a capatalist had STUFF (machines, buildings, etc.) that allowed
> him/her to make their venture competitive. Today, more and more, it is the
> people that are the true resource, and you cannot own them like you can
> machines... So when these firms get bought out, the most valuable asset,
> the people, can fly away and leave you with a worthless incoroporation
> certificate. I would imagine that SUN contracted important people to stay
> on for certain minimum commitments???
I hope not.
The problem is a political one, not one with the market.
Companies are typically greedy and foolish and don't want to give the producers in
proportion to there efforts,skills&talent through direct profit sharing. (Maybe this
is why high skilled industries typically have high employee turn-over rates)
Stocks are a very weak way of doing profit sharing.
Of course, what's bad for Lighthouse the company isn't neccesarily what's bad for
the marketplace. If the highly skilled people at Lighthouse make a ton of $$ on
the deal and use it to go off and start there own companies to puruse their own visions,
the NeXTstep/OpenStep market will likely be the better for it.
--
Steve Dekorte "C++/Java, the COBOL of the 90s"
NeXTstep consultant - Anaheim, CA
mailto:dekorte@suite.com (NeXTmail,MIME)
http://www.batech.com/~dekorte/dekorte/index.html
From: Paul Heffernan <phef@cedar.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:59:56 +0100
Organization: Cedar Systems
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <w48SzHAMvbyxEw48@cedar.co.uk>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614094610.2754C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
<1996Jun18.094913.46624@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>
MIME-Version: 1.0
In article <1996Jun18.094913.46624@yogi.urz.unibas.ch>, Daniel Haas
<haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch> writes
>But a new software company is just releasing a new WP for NeXT
>(Cedar Text Suite). It should start betatesting at the end of June
>I guess (I subscribed for the test, will try to post results as
>soon as I have the program and played with it)
>
>Perhaps we will get a working WP for the NeXT in the near future...
>
Since there has been some interest in this thread about our Beta
product, I feel I should clarify things by giving some details on the
product.
First of all, Cedar Systems are a small consultancy firm based in
Bristol, England. The company was formed in 1991 by four senior
consultants from a major UK based management consultancy firm. We have
been using NEXTSTEP for rapid prototyping and development since early
1993.
Whilst using NEXTSTEP to prototype a correspondence system, we decided
to extend the NeXT Text class to handle justification, full ruler
support with decimal, right and centre tabs, right indentation, page
breaks, headers and footers, styles etc. We designed these extensions as
a suite of components and classes - Cedar Text Suite - to market to
developers who require word processor capabilities in their
applications.
Having produced these extensions, we decided that an excellent way to
promote the capabilities of the suite would be to wrap the components up
in an application and offer it to the NEXTSTEP community as a budget
word processor. Hence CedarWord was created and will be sold at $25 a
licence.
When packaging CedarWord, we realised that the majority of word
processor users only utilise about 20% of the features of today's large
word processors such as Microsoft Word. Hence, we have focussed on
including the major features that are required by all users to produce
documents. To quell people's expectations before they get too high, the
first release of CedarWord does not incorporate several features
available in other more expensive word processors: tables, mail merge,
footnotes/endnotes, multi-column and file filters (CedarWord native file
format is RTF/RTFD). We will consider adding these capabilities after
the release if there is sufficient demand.
We plan to make the Beta version available to our Beta testers at the
end of this month.
If you feel that you may be able to help us with our Beta testing
programme, please email us at cedarwordbeta@cedar.co.uk
If you require further information on CedarWord, Cedar Text Suite or our
other services, please email info@cedar.co.uk
I look forward to announcing the release of the first value for money
NeXT word processor in the near future, and would like to take this
opportunity to thank the entire NeXT community for their help and
support in this product.
Regards,
Paul.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Heffernan, Product Development Manager.
Cedar Systems, 2440 The Quadrant, Aztec West, Bristol BS12 4AQ, UK
Phone: +44 (0) 1454 878708
Fax : +44 (0) 1454 878608
From: Paul Heffernan <phef@cedar.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: Setting the default paper-size in NeXTStep 3.0
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:41:21 +0100
Organization: Cedar Systems
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <IC9sGDABWcyxEwsU@cedar.co.uk>
References: <4qb27p$16nq@alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>
MIME-Version: 1.0
In article <4qb27p$16nq@alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>, Peter Pregler
<Peter.Pregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> writes
>
>Hi all,
>
>I would like to configure the default paper-size setup for all accounts
>on the NeXTStep 3.0 system. Currently, it is set to letter-size but we
>here in Austria use A4 as the default size. One can change the
>page-layout in certain applications (under format->page-layout) but
>there are two problems with this:
>
>1) One has to set it in all user-applications.
>2) It is not saved over sessions.
>
>I had a look at what defaults are set via 'dwrite' and I cannot find any
>setting that is related to paper-size. Has anyone done this before?
Try dwrite -g NXPaperType A4
Paul.
------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Heffernan, Product Development Manager.
Cedar Systems, 2440 The Quadrant, Aztec West, Bristol BS12 4AQ, UK
Phone: +44 (0) 1454 878708
Fax : +44 (0) 1454 878608
From: lusty@aimnet.com (Lusty Wench)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: 20 Jun 1996 15:52:02 -0700
Organization: Aimnet Corporation
Message-ID: <4qckmi$pbs@shell1.aimnet.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614094610.2754C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <1996Jun18.094913.46624@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <Pine.HPP.3.91.960620140417.2789B-100000@hphalle4f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.960620140417.2789B-100000@hphalle4f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de>,
Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:
>On 18 Jun 1996, Daniel Haas wrote:
>
>> But a new software company is just releasing a new WP for NeXT
>> (Cedar Text Suite). It should start betatesting at the end of June
>
<snip>
>
>Hopefully the new product is good and the new company is tough,
I'd just like to know what kind of drugs the people at that company
are on.
Lusty
From: daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: uucp woes
Date: 20 Jun 1996 21:52:49 GMT
Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University
Message-ID: <4qch7h$6du@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
I'm having a strange problem with uucp. Outgoing mail does not work.
I get this error, when debugging level 99 is enabled:
*** TOP *** - role=MASTER
gnamef returns .
bldflst rejects .
gnamef returns ..
bldflst rejects ..
gnamef returns C.uupsi4C6n94
bldflst rejects C.uupsi4C6n94
bldflst returns 0
Any idea what's wrong? Incoming mail works fine. I'm running on
Black Hardware, NS3.2
David Jaffe
david@jaffe.com
(Please CC me on your answer)
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: 21 Jun 1996 00:13:36 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4qcpfg$25r@news3.digex.net>
References: <4qaen9$llb@news4.digex.net> <4qc8r4$6h7@news.onramp.net>
dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) wrote:
> I hope not.
> The problem is a political one, not one with the market. Companies are
typically greedy and foolish and don't want to give the producers in
proportion to there efforts,skills&talent through direct profit sharing.
(Maybe this is why high skilled industries typically have high employee
turn-over rates) Stocks are a very weak way of doing profit sharing.
> Of course, what's bad for Lighthouse the company isn't neccesarily what's
bad for the marketplace. If the highly skilled people at Lighthouse make a
ton of $$ on the deal and use it to go off and start there own companies to
puruse their own visions, the NeXTstep/OpenStep market will likely be the
better for it.
I'm not saying it's a problem w/ the market. Just that is no longer a
classic capatalism we are in... It is a problem for the 3rd party investor
that wants to have some assurance when s/he buys some stock, it's worth
it... In the past, you just looked over at the asset part of the balance
sheet and saw machines, buildings, etc... Now you look there, and people
are there!?! And you can't guarantee people will stay there, unless
slavery becomes legal again :) Let me put it this way... I'd think twice
before I invest in Lehman brothers, if their top people were thinking of
going off and starting a competing company... Where I wouldn't feel any
hesitation if the top assembly workers in a car makers plant would leave...
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Web (Netscape Questions)
Date: 21 Jun 1996 01:14:51 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4sjtsb.ble.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <4pdef0$2cp@crl.crl.com>
On 8 Jun 1996 19:55:28 -0700, Joseph W. Stroup <nettech@crl.com> wrote:
> Does the Netscape server & browser work under NExt 3.2 O/S ?
Not natively. Netscape for X works fine on NS machines running X, but you
can get X functionality a lot cheaper than buying NS.
> Whats the deal witht their web software ?
I'm not sure what you mean by this question, but since you (inappropriately)
cross-posted to two NS forums, I'll assume you want an answer relative to
the NS WWW client market. In my opinion, Netscape is simply better than the
browsers available for NS for a few reasons. Primarily, Netscape works
quickly on machines with few resources to spare. I've yet to see an NS
browser that offers something close to Netscape's features and performance
while doing so under the same resource limitations.
--
Due to local news server and feed problems, I might not see all followups.
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: 21 Jun 1996 01:23:06 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4sjubn.ble.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614094610.2754C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <w48SzHAMvbyxEw48@cedar.co.uk>
On Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:59:56 +0100, Paul Heffernan <phef@cedar.co.uk> wrote:
> Whilst using NEXTSTEP to prototype a correspondence system, we decided
> to extend the NeXT Text class to handle justification, full ruler
> support with decimal, right and centre tabs, right indentation, page
> breaks, headers and footers, styles etc. [...]
I'm reminded of a similar attempt at a word processor from Rightbrain. I
forgot what it was going to be called, but it too was going to abuse the
text object by making it the basis of the app. If I recall correctly, it
too was also going to support only NS' RTF(D). I didn't think that idea had
promise, and with so few features included in the initial release, I'm left
with the same feeling about CedarWord.
> When packaging CedarWord, we realised that the majority of word
> processor users only utilise about 20% of the features of today's large
> word processors such as Microsoft Word.
Where did you get the ``about 20%'' figure? How was this determined?
--
Due to local news server and feed problems, I might not see all followups.
From: "Elwood K.F. Chu" <c3801721@comp.polyu.edu.hk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: OpenGL support for NEXTSTEP?
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:34:20 +0800
Organization: Hong Kong Polytechnic University
Message-ID: <01bb5e50.fc5f01a0$0e0a40ca@alexander>
I would like to know whether OpenGL support as well as development kit for
NEXTSTEP?
---------------
Elwood K.F. Chu
BA (Hons) Computing Year 3
Hong Kong Polytechnic University
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Free Will
Date: 21 Jun 1996 02:41:02 GMT
Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4qd23u$dq2@news.onramp.net>
Steve writes:
You have said that there is no way to determine whether
a given object has "free will" - that there is no observable
difference between a thing that does and one that does not have
"free will". How then did you determine that people have it?
..
Jorgenson:
.. Please provide us with your personal means for how to investigate
the goals of an object.
Steve:
Goals are a short hand for patterns of behaivor.
One observes a dog(or robot) chases a cat and we say it has a goal of catching it, etc.
You might also analyse the mechanics of the object in question enough to
determine it's behavior and then make the same sorts of statements about it's "goals".
What's not clear to me is what patterns of behaivor you consider required for "free will".
---
Steve:
You said my proposed robot which had long and short term goals
did not have free will.
Are you now proposing further conditions for the types of goals
required for "free will"?
Jorgenson:
No. As I explained in my response the words 'personally set'
cover this area and those words were part of the initial
requirements. Hence my remarks discerning between
programmed robots, scripted actors and actual individuals.
Steve:
So we hook the goal production algorithm up to a thermostatic
random number generator. The algorithm would then set it's
own goals in an unpredictable way.
Would this meet the condition of being 'personaly set'?
---
Jorgenson:
You Sir have thrice failed to explain your statement that the
free will test in incorrect. Now you ask me to again explain
about the investigator investigating the goals of the object.
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the word 'investigate' and
so are unable to imagine or picture for yourself what would
be required...
Steve:
It's "incorrect" in the sense that it's incomplete.
I asked how one would determine if something had free will.
You gave some conditions and I gave an example robot that met your conditions,
yet you would not agree that it had "free will". So I asked what other conditions
had to be met. To this you replied I'd just have to "investigate" further.
This doesn't answer the question.
Steve
From: don@misckit.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: 21 Jun 1996 04:41:26 GMT
Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <4qd95m$tg@news.xmission.com>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.960614094610.2754C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <w48SzHAMvbyxEw48@cedar.co.uk> <slrn4sjubn.ble.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:59:56 +0100, Paul Heffernan <phef@cedar.co.uk>
wrote:
> > Whilst using NEXTSTEP to prototype a correspondence system, we decided
> > to extend the NeXT Text class to handle justification, full ruler
> > support with decimal, right and centre tabs, right indentation, page
> > breaks, headers and footers, styles etc. [...]
>
> I'm reminded of a similar attempt at a word processor from Rightbrain. I
> forgot what it was going to be called, but it too was going to abuse the
> text object by making it the basis of the app. If I recall correctly, it
> too was also going to support only NS' RTF(D). I didn't think that idea
> had promise, and with so few features included in the initial release,
> I'm left with the same feeling about CedarWord.
Well, the RightBrain lightweight is now WriteUp from AFS, but it
isn't based on NeXT's text object. (I think the one you refer to
may have been another project that never happened, and may not even
have been RightBrain. I hazily remember something from way, way
back, but it is too fuzzy to be sure of it.)
However, compared to WriteUp, this product has a big advantage:
the price. $25 is practically nothing. You don't get a lot of
features, but you don't pay a lot of cash, either. I think it has
more than 1/10 of WriteUp's features, for example, so it seems
that you get more for your dollar with this app. Perhaps this word
processor will be adequate for more lightweight needs (quick memos,
etc.). They aren't marketing it as a kitchen sink app meant to do
everything and I appreciate the honesty up front, right now. And
though it lacks converters, the use of RTF is, IMHO, a good thing.
It is pretty easy to convert to and from RTF with existing apps
and UNIX utilities.
Also, I see myself as an example of a person who would be willing
to part with $25 for this app. I do a lot of stuff in RTF with
Edit because I don't need many advanced features. Having a nice
editor/lightweight WP that could act as an Edit replacement sounds
really nice to me. Of course, until I see the product I won't know
if it really meets my needs and is worth the $25 to _me_. Based
upon the posted information, I believe it will.
The next thing is "they're practically giving it away, how will
they make any money in this market?" Well, the market they are
catering to is developers. They are selling the modified text
object. The word processor is really just a demo app to show what
their object suite does; it is the objects they hope to sell (and
we don't know what that price will be). Time will tell if this
marketing plan is a good one or not, but given the nature of the
marketplace I do think that this approach is fairly likely to
succeed, if there is anything which can succeed. (I'm not
convinced that the market could even support this approach, though.
I hope it will for their sake!)
I find the whole concept, especially the unique marketing plan,
intriguing. It will be interesting to see if it pans out well or
not. I hope that it will, but I don't even dare hazard a guess one
way or another, because no matter which I pick I'll probably be
proven wrong when the dust settles. :-)
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com
<a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: "Andrew M. Priasmoro" <ampriasm@students.wisc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: PPP and GateKeeper Softwares.
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 01:38:49 -0500
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Message-ID: <31CA4379.5E86@students.wisc.edu>
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CC: ampriasm@students.wisc.edu
Hello,
I would like to ask to anyone who knows the best PPP version from
thoughtport. Which version of PPP software should I get that will also
work with GateKeeper and is also stable. I tried PPP-2.2-0.1.9, but
I could not get it work with GateKeeper-1.0a.NI.b. After successfully
dial out to my ISP, I tried to enable the pppd with the pppd button on
the GateKeeper, but I got a message saying that "could not exec'ing
pppd: not a directory. Does anyone have a pointer what was wrong with
this message?
Thanks.
Andrew.
From: chuck@its.com (Chuck Swiger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Help: Screaming cc compiler using Lex&Yacc.
Date: 20 Jun 1996 18:02:29 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Message-ID: <4qc3nl$hci@news.its.com>
References: <4q6qmb$af@news.mpd.tandem.com>
tremblay_michel@tandem.com (Pierre-Michel Tremblay) wrote:
> Bonjour all,
>
> I'm a novice interested in using Lex and Yacc. I went on the tutorial
> located at URL: http://www.ee.ic.ac.uk/course/advanced/lex/lex.html. I've
> tried to use their tutorial without success. cc screams at me and I don't
> really know what's necessary to get it to run properly. Here are the very
> simple steps I followed:
[ ... ]
I followed those same steps under NS 3.3p1 and had things work fine. I got
an excutable called 'DEMO' which would convert upper case letters to lower
case.
What system are you running and what version of the compiler?
-Chuck
Charles Swiger -- chuck@its.com | Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
--------------------------------+---------------------------------------
CrashCatcher Development, Systems and Networking Administrator
From: "Andrew M. Priasmoro" <ampriasm@students.wisc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GateKeeper 1.0 Problem.
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 05:20:08 -0500
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Message-ID: <31CA7758.1AFF@students.wisc.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,
I tried to use GateKeeper together with ppp2.2.0.1.9. My problem was
when I set up the ppd path in the GateKeeper preference menu as
"/usr/local/ppp/bin" I got a message "error execu'ing pppd:Permission
denied" right after connected to my ISP and clicking the pppd button on
the GateKeeper dial-up menu. Does anyone know what is the solution to
fix this problem? The thing I don't understand is I checked every
related directories and link-directories content ppp files, and they
were all group, others, user executable, but why the GateKeeper said
that permission to execute pppd was denied?
I really appreciate if anyone can help me to solve this problem.
Thanks.
Andrew.
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: OpenGL support for NEXTSTEP?
Date: 21 Jun 1996 12:10:05 GMT
Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC.
Message-ID: <4qe3et$bec@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>
References: <01bb5e50.fc5f01a0$0e0a40ca@alexander>
Cc: c3801721@comp.polyu.edu.hk
In <01bb5e50.fc5f01a0$0e0a40ca@alexander> "Elwood K.F. Chu" wrote:
> I would like to know whether OpenGL support as well as development kit for
> NEXTSTEP?
>
> ---------------
> Elwood K.F. Chu
> BA (Hons) Computing Year 3
> Hong Kong Polytechnic University
>
Mesa (the OpenGL library, not the spreadsheet 8-)) has some support for
NeXTSTEP:
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~brianp/Mesa.html
--
Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page
http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank
NeXTSTEP, Linux & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C
ga ga"
From: robert (Robert Lutwak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Eloquent.app ?
Date: 21 Jun 1996 12:31:19 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Message-ID: <4qe4mn$q75@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Hi.
What's become of Eloquent.app ?
The demo on next-ftp.peak.org is expired and I didn't get
an E-mail response from Take3.
Is it still viable ?
Is there a demo somewhere ?
Thanks,
Robert
--
Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
MIT Atomic Resonance and Spectroscopy Laboratory
---- NeXTmail always welcome ----
From: s124177@student.uq.edu.au (Simon Chih-L Han)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Help: How do I connect a MAC laser printer to Next 040?
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:08:12 +1000
Organization: Centre for Research in Vascular Biology
Message-ID: <s124177-2106962308120001@pipi.anatomy.uq.oz.au>
References: <overa-2006961059020001@physlab4.sjsu.edu>
In article <overa-2006961059020001@physlab4.sjsu.edu>, overa@fire.sjsu.edu
(ver) wrote:
> I would loke to connect a mac laser printer to a next 040 cube. I know i
> can be done just not sure how.
>
>
> Any help greatly appreciated,
>
> Me :)
I have connect a PC running NeXTStep/Intel directly to the parallel port
of Apple Laserwriter 360.
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: 21 Jun 1996 14:40:47 GMT
Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <4qec9f$qf@shelob.afs.com>
References: <4qd95m$tg@news.xmission.com>
don@misckit.com writes
> jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) wrote:
> > I'm reminded of a similar attempt at a word processor from Rightbrain.
> > I forgot what it was going to be called, but it too was going to abuse
> > the text object by making it the basis of the app. If I recall
> > correctly, it too was also going to support only NS' RTF(D). I didn't
> > think that idea had promise, and with so few features included in the
> > initial release, I'm left with the same feeling about CedarWord.
>
> Well, the RightBrain lightweight is now WriteUp from AFS, but it
> isn't based on NeXT's text object. (I think the one you refer to
> may have been another project that never happened, and may not even
> have been RightBrain. I hazily remember something from way, way
> back, but it is too fuzzy to be sure of it.)
The Authority speaks: 8^)
Yes, at the time AFS bought PasteUp from RightBrain, Glenn was engaged
in an effort to hack the Text object and turn it into a bare-bones word
processor. It wasn't going well. I know because I passed on buying that
part of RightBrain after seeing a demonstration. At the time, I remember
thinking that if a PostScript genius like Glenn (and no matter what some
people think of him, he IS a PS genius) couldn't do it, no one could. I
think the CedarWord people will find that out if they try to go further.
> However, compared to WriteUp, this product has a big advantage:
> the price. $25 is practically nothing. You don't get a lot of
> features, but you don't pay a lot of cash, either. I think it has
> more than 1/10 of WriteUp's features, for example, so it seems
> that you get more for your dollar with this app. Perhaps this word
> processor will be adequate for more lightweight needs (quick memos,
> etc.). They aren't marketing it as a kitchen sink app meant to do
> everything and I appreciate the honesty up front, right now. And
> though it lacks converters, the use of RTF is, IMHO, a good thing.
> It is pretty easy to convert to and from RTF with existing apps
> and UNIX utilities.
I think it is futile, but I guess $25 is $25. Has everyone forgotten
that WriteUp was initially targeted into a market where WordPerfect
still existed, and WU was the low-cost, low-feature alternative? The
price of WU 1.0 was only $99. Yet even when the NS market was still
viable, that turned out not to be a viable market segment. Hence all
of the new features, converters, etc in later versions of WU. And STILL
people aren't satisfied with the feature set. Everybody wants "just one
more thing," and it's always their personal "one more thing." I'm not
saying people shouldn't get the features they need, I'm just pointing
out how and why apps bulge over time. Nope, trying to find low-end
niches for standard application categories is not a viable business
idea. I know. I've tried it.
--
Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the
Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from
Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect
greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
From: tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Georg Tuparev)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: When NS4.0?
Date: 21 Jun 1996 14:43:06 GMT
Organization: EMBL Heidelberg
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4qecdq$s0r@lion.embl-heidelberg.de>
References: <4ps3q0$sam@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In article <4ps3q0$sam@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A
Smith) writes:
> chongl%sc@mhs.elan.af.mil wrote:
> : tim@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Tim Pugh) wrote:
>
> : >When is NS4.0 going to be released? I thought the schedule called for
> : >2Q96 availability. Also, what is the status on OPENSTEP on Sun and DEC?
> : >Has NeXT's support of Windows NT soured Sun on NeXT? Any info would
> : >be appreciated.
>
> : According to a next salesperson, it should be out in two weeks.
>
> I hope the feeling on the street is that 4.0 will be a dog, and we should all
> wait for 4.1. I _hate_ being forced to do upgrades, and would prefer to wait.
Ha! And the Big Creator of this posting is working in the Economics Department
of MIT. What a shame!
> .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-.
> / L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \
> / `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `
> Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
> (617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax)
> lones@lones.mit.edu
--
Georg Tuparev
EMBL / Protein Design Phone: +49 - 6221 - 387305
Meyerhofstr. 1 FAX: +49 - 6221 - 387517
D-69117 Heidelberg
Germany
Tuparev@EMBL-Heidelberg.de (NeXT-mail)
From: bob_oconnor@csgi.com (Bob O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can I Fax from the command line?
Date: 20 Jun 1996 18:07:49 GMT
Organization: Just BOB Macintosh and NeXT Consulting
Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[3077]
Message-ID: <4qc41l$22o@news2.dn.net>
Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.
I used the following command to send a document into the Fax queue, but
it just sat there. Any suggestions for how to get it to fax out?
lpr -Pfax_modem_name -nfax_number filename
Thanks in advance.
-----------------------------------------
Bob O'Connor bob_oconnor@csgi.com
From: bob_oconnor@csgi.com (Bob O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Who makes SBook?
Date: 20 Jun 1996 18:12:11 GMT
Organization: Just BOB Macintosh and NeXT Consulting
Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[3077]
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Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name.
I have version 3.1 and want to upgrade and find out if it is NS 4.0
compatible. Does anyone have contact information for whoever makes it
now?
Thanks,
-----------------------------------------
Bob O'Connor bob_oconnor@csgi.com
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Free Will
Date: 21 Jun 1996 17:05:16 GMT
Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4qekoc$nbd@news.onramp.net>
References: <4qd23u$dq2@news.onramp.net>
Sorry, posted to the wrong newsgroup.
Steve
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: 21 Jun 1996 17:18:36 GMT
Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA
Message-ID: <4qelhc$nh5@news.onramp.net>
References: <4qcpfg$25r@news3.digex.net>
John Kheit writes:
> I'm not saying it's a problem w/ the market. Just that is no longer a
> classic capatalism we are in... It is a problem for the 3rd party investor
> that wants to have some assurance when s/he buys some stock, it's worth
> it... In the past, you just looked over at the asset part of the balance
> sheet and saw machines, buildings, etc... Now you look there, and people
> are there!?! And you can't guarantee people will stay there, unless
> slavery becomes legal again :) Let me put it this way... I'd think twice
> before I invest in Lehman brothers, if their top people were thinking of
> going off and starting a competing company... Where I wouldn't feel any
> hesitation if the top assembly workers in a car makers plant would leave...
Right, the greater that skill&talent are involved, the less of a commodity
your employees become. Of course, as long as employees are given
as much opportunity and income as they could get elsewhere (their market value)
they have no reason to leave and the investor has nothing to worry about.
--
Steve Dekorte "C++/Java, the COBOL of the 90s"
NeXTstep consultant - Anaheim, CA
mailto:dekorte@suite.com (NeXTmail,MIME)
http://www.batech.com/~dekorte/dekorte/index.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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From: Bjarni Thor Juliusson <bjarni@fiton.is>
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 96 18:12:39 GMT
Subject: Soundworks for Digital Ears
Hello
is there any on who has licensed Sounworks.
We have been trying to get it for few months from the Vendor, but
we can't them or reach them.
We bought the Digital Ears few years back and we got a copy of old
SoundWorks with it on one floppy.
Any help would be appreciated via NeXTmail.
Digital Ears was made for the mk68 via DSP port.
Thanks
Bjarni
ObjectBox Ltd.
Street: Asvallagata 13
City/POBOX: Reykjavik /101
Country: Iceland
Phone: 354 5517722 and in the evening hours 354 623324
Fax: 354 5517721
Peeber: 354 8461663 then your number
bjarni@fiton.is NeXTmail
http://www.fiton.is/box
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: When NS4.0?
Date: 21 Jun 1996 18:49:28 GMT
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4qeqrp$7g3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
References: <4ps3q0$sam@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <4qecdq$s0r@lion.embl-heidelberg.de>
> Ha! And the Big Creator of this posting is working in the Economics
> Department of MIT. What a shame!
Perhaps economists understand the costs of downtime better.
The innovations that come with many upgrades are generally slim,
and the cost of switching NS on two systems (my situation)
substantial. Hackers and tinkers (fortunately over-represented
in this group!) who love toying with the latest gadgets are the
major class of people egging for the next upgrade.
The main reason to switch is that one cannot upgrade the software
I use otherwise. This is the sense that the upgrades "force" this.
I am still on 3.2, and occasionally this fact is made very real to me.
Yes, I want NS to succeed, but feel that the artificial compression
of the so-called software innovation cycle is more herd-following
hype than a genuine effort to create a great operating system.
.-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-.
/ L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \
/ `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `
Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139
(617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax)
lones@lones.mit.edu
From: don@misckit.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: WP software for NeXT -- WriteUp and OpenWrite
Date: 21 Jun 1996 19:31:49 GMT
Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900)
Message-ID: <4qetb5$tg@news.xmission.com>
References: <4qd95m$tg@news.xmission.com> <4qec9f$qf@shelob.afs.com>
It is nice to have an expert's opinion...but...
Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) wrote:
> [...]. Has everyone forgotten
> that WriteUp was initially targeted into a market where WordPerfect
> still existed, and WU was the low-cost, low-feature alternative? The
> price of WU 1.0 was only $99. [...]
I understand that part quite well. My point is that in this case,
the APP is NOT their target or even the main product. It is
something thrown out there as a marketing tool to sell their text
object suite and their consulting services. A demo, if you wish.
That is NOT the way WriteUp was sold and marketed. It is marketed
as an app, not as a way to sell developers on an object suite or
pique interest in your consulting firm. Or, at least, your
marketing of WriteUp has led me to believe this. So I see this as
a different marketing approach from what you have used, with
different goals. The WP app is NOT the core product here; if it
doesn't sell like hot cakes it doesn't matter too much because it
may still end up fulfilling its intended purpose. Success with it
will be measured in the amount of consulting business and developer
products sold, not in the number of apps sold.
Another problem with WriteUp is that the initial $99 release was
too buggy for me to be willing to plunk down that much cash as a
poor starving student. $25 I would have paid, though. That $75
difference is a BIG difference to a student--here in Utah, that is
enough to feed a person very well for 2-3 weeks! When the bugs
were fixed and the other features added, the price went up, always
keeping it out of my "buy" range. The OpenWrite deal to upgrade
from WriteNow for $149 was OK to me because even though the GUI is
terrible and it is slow, it has formatting features that make it
worth the cost to me. WriteUp's lack of footnotes was the problem
there. So, what I'm saying is that WriteUp is great for what it
is, but its price and feature set, taken together, never were in
the right range to meet my needs and budget simultaneously. (I
still think the GUI is better than OpenWrite and it certainly
performs better...it really is a nice app.)
> [...] trying to find low-end
> niches for standard application categories is not a viable business
> idea. I know. I've tried it.
But see, that's not exactly what these guys are doing. My point
is that they are using this as a way to draw business to their
consulting and developer tools. I never saw WriteUp marketed that
way, and so the way "success" is measured is different. And so
just because "A" didn't work for you doesn't mean that "B" will
fail for the other guy. On the other hand, I don't know that "B"
will work for them, given the state of the marketplace. "B"
certainly appears more viable to me than "A", but I still have my
doubts. I _hope_ that "B" ends up working, but hope alone won't
make that happen.
So, considering "B", and leaving "A" out of the picture, what are
the pros and cons of it? So far everyone is setting up a straw
man to knock down but not really addressing the more unique "B"
approach that truly represents what is trying to be accomplished.
I'd love to see some discussion on the "B" approach...is that
approach viable? I don't know enough to pass judgement on that,
and maybe only time will tell.
The even bigger question, and I see this discussion as just one
fascinating subset of it, is that of how to successfully market
objectware. There is yet to be a wildly successful job of it;
usually any success comes from the consulting side rather than
selling objectware. Can objectware alone ever be successful? How
could it be done? All the _really_ successful objectware in use
today is free, from what I've seen; can that change?
It is certainly an interesting question and I've yet to see an
answer that leaves me 100% satisfied...and I certainly don't
have many answers to it myself. :-)
--
Later,
-Don Yacktman
don@misckit.com
<a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Soundworks for Digital Ears
Date: 21 Jun 1996 20:25:58 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4qf0gm$eq0@news4.digex.net>
References: <199606211812.SAA02539@next.fiton.is>
Bjarni Thor Juliusson <bjarni@fiton.is> wrote:
> is there any on who has licensed Sounworks.
> We have been trying to get it for few months from the Vendor, but we
can't them or reach them.
> We bought the Digital Ears few years back and we got a copy of old
SoundWorks with it on one floppy.
> Any help would be appreciated via NeXTmail. Digital Ears was made for the
mk68 via DSP port.
Try this...
Lee Bueler
503 227-3733
metaresearch <75270.1262@compuserve.com>
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: mnb2@labdien.cc.columbia.edu (Mark Nathan Broadie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: dvips problem
Date: 21 Jun 1996 21:54:51 GMT
Organization: Columbia University
Message-ID: <4qf5nb$abi@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
I am having a problem with dvips on my NS3.3 Intel computer.
Using dvips (version 5.51 which came with NS) I can
create a postscript file, but it generates postscript
errors on Previewing or printing. The errors
are
DPS client library error: PostScript program error, DPSContext 28460
%%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: div ]%%
I can view the .dvi file using TeXview just fine. However,
when I run dvips with debugging, no errors are reported.
I have also tried to go from the same .dvi file to .ps
using dvips on another machine. That postscript file
Previews flawlessly. I tried downloading a later
version of dvips (version 5.58) from the net. After
compiling it, I get the same problem.
Does anyone have any ideas what the problem is,
or how I can try to track it down???
-Mark Broadie
mbroadie@research.gsb.columbia.edu
or
mnb2@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: Setting the default paper-size in NeXTStep 3.0
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:57:27 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960620085533.3287A-100000@charisma>
References: <4qb27p$16nq@alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>
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To: Peter Pregler <Peter.Pregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at>
In-Reply-To: <4qb27p$16nq@alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>
I +think+ that the dwrite you are looking for is:
dwrite GLOBAL NXPaperType Letter|Ledger|Tabloid|Legal|Executive|A3|A4|A5|B4|B5
where you choose ONE of the last set of values
--
Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
On 20 Jun 1996, Peter Pregler wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to configure the default paper-size setup for all accounts
> on the NeXTStep 3.0 system. Currently, it is set to letter-size but we
> here in Austria use A4 as the default size. One can change the
> page-layout in certain applications (under format->page-layout) but
> there are two problems with this:
>
> 1) One has to set it in all user-applications.
> 2) It is not saved over sessions.
>
> I had a look at what defaults are set via 'dwrite' and I cannot find any
> setting that is related to paper-size. Has anyone done this before?
>
> Thanx, Peter.
>
> -------------------------------
> Email: Peter.Pregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at
> WWW: http://www.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/people/ppregler
>
>
>
>
>
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ncftp -- 2.30 precompiled -- can anyone use it?
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 04:05:00 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960620040423.2473A-100000@charisma>
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I was very happy to see that there is a version of ncftp (2.3.0) on
the archives, and in a .pkg form, no less!
However, I found it to be un-useable:
WARNING: could not determine full host name (have: 'charisma').
The program should be re-compiled with DOMAINNAME defined to be the
domain name, i.e. -DDOMAINNAME=\"unl.edu\"
Error: Unrecognized preference option "maxhosts".
"/etc/termcap", line 1205: terminal 'M1', slashes aren't allowed in
names or aliases
Has anyone else been able to get this to work (NS 3.2 m68k)?
I remember it not compiling easily when I last tried it....
--
Timothy J. Luoma luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu
luomat@nerc.com <<--preferred address
From: John Mann <mann@rest.tasc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Question Concerning Modem Usage on SPARC
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 19:02:47 -0400
Organization: TASC
Message-ID: <31CB2A17.5684@rest.tasc.com>
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I am running a SPARC machine as a dual boot system at home, connected to my (networked) workplace by
modem. On the Solaris side, I have managed to get the PPP package running without diffidulty. So, I
reasoned, that with the same equipment connected (via cable with a 25 pin connector at the A/B serial
port), I should be able to do the same on my NS3.3 system. The PPP software loaded OK, but the tip
program refuses to run. It fails with a '/dev/cua: file not found' message. Now, its my understanding
that the cua or cufa device is needed for dialing out. And, it does exist; I checked. I did not alter
the /etc/ttys file; the documentation says the tty entries are for dialing into a system.
In order to check the modem settings, I first have to get connected to it. What gives? I tried running
cu with a phone number on the command line and an appropriate (ACU) entry in the L.sys file, but it
responded 'cannot synchronize with hayes'. Now, I'm really lost. Can anyone help? Is this really a
software problem, or do I have some sort of cabling problem?
BTW - the modem is a Robotics Sportster 14.4.
From: Joe McReynolds <joemc@lmsc.lockheed.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HELP:Need Mac 7.5 Print Driver for NeXT laser printer
Date: 22 Jun 1996 00:18:22 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Martin Missiles & Space
Message-ID: <4qfe4e$efr@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>
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Anyone know where I can get a Mac (OS 7.5.2) printer driver (i.e., a
chooser extension) which will drive a NeXT laser printer!? No luck in
the Mac archives I've searched. Thanks much for any help!
From: jadams@jadams.cac.stratus.com (John Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: cut utilities
Date: 22 Jun 1996 01:45:18 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <4qfj7e$poo@transfer.stratus.com>
Is there a cut utility for NeXTStep?
--
John_A_Adams@vos.stratus.com
From: jadams@jadams.cac.stratus.com (John Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cut
Date: 22 Jun 1996 01:47:51 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <4qfjc7$pp9@transfer.stratus.com>
Is there a cut utility for NeXTStep?
--
John_A_Adams@vos.stratus.com
From: jadams@jadams.cac.stratus.com (John Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: cut utilities
Date: 22 Jun 1996 01:45:45 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Message-ID: <4qfj89$pp0@transfer.stratus.com>
Is there a cut utility for NeXTStep?
--
John_A_Adams@vos.stratus.com
From: root@bluesky-syd.bluesky.net.au (Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any proxy server support NeXTSTEP????
Date: 22 Jun 1996 06:49:55 GMT
Organization: Microplex Pty Ltd
Message-ID: <4qg52j$p8k@inferno.mpx.com.au>
we have tried the apache 1.1b4.. when i tried to compile the source with proxy
module, it seems doesn't work under nextstep environment. :(
is there any other proxy server or web server supported the proxy module under
NeXTSTEP/Intel environment out there at the moment??? we don't want to spend
another few thousand dollars just want to buy another machine to run the Proxy
server..
please re-pely this to sonny@bluesky.net.au, NeXT mail welcome...
thank you very very much....
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: cut utilities
Date: 22 Jun 1996 07:32:05 GMT
Organization: The University of Arizona
Message-ID: <4qg7hl$dla@news.ccit.arizona.edu>
References: <4qfj89$pp0@transfer.stratus.com>
In-Reply-To: <4qfj89$pp0@transfer.stratus.com>
On 06/21/96, John Adams wrote:
>
>Is there a cut utility for NeXTStep?
>
>--
>
>John_A_Adams@vos.stratus.com
>
NeXTSTEP does not have cut. However, if you have the Developer, you can compile
one from GNU textutils.
--
----------------
Yuwen Cheng
University of Arizona, Math
yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: rhoward@smartt.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: SCANMAN 256 DRIVERS
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 05:30:02 GMT
Organization: KTK Communications Ltd. (SmarttNet, http://www.smartt.com)
Message-ID: <4qfvvn$q6u@ktk2.smartt.com>
Can anyone tell me where to get them?
From: rhoward@smartt.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: scanman 256 drivers
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 05:36:12 GMT
Organization: KTK Communications Ltd. (SmarttNet, http://www.smartt.com)
Message-ID: <4qg0b9$qfv@ktk2.smartt.com>
Im having trouble finding drivers for my scanman256.
I would like to download them if anyone could give me an address
thanks
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: When NS4.0?
Date: 22 Jun 1996 03:16:24 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4qfoi8$bla@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4ps3q0$sam@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <4qecdq$s0r@lion.embl-heidelberg.de> <4qeqrp$7g3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) wrote:
> The main reason to switch is that one cannot upgrade the software
> I use otherwise. This is the sense that the upgrades "force"
> this. I am still on 3.2, and occasionally this fact is made very
> real to me.
>
> Yes, I want NS to succeed, but feel that the artificial compression
> of the so-called software innovation cycle is more herd-following
> hype than a genuine effort to create a great operating system.
As a person who lives in the world of Macs, I think NeXT has
been doing a better job of this than Apple. I also think the
web is turning this into an even bigger problem, as many
companies are trying to get their plug-in to be "standard",
and are rushing things out every few months.
We're in an industry that's going crazy.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Why no 2nd session on Kodak Photo CD?
Date: 22 Jun 1996 03:18:37 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4qfomd$bla@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4qa7gk$pvj@chinx4.thoughtport.net>
anderss@thoughtport.com wrote:
> Why can't I read the second session of a multi-session Kodak
> Photo CD? The first reads fine. Thanks.
There was a recent thread on this. The basic problem is that
the CD drivers in NeXTSTEP simply do not read any sessions
but the first one. There is a company which has a multi-
session capable driver for NeXTSTEP, but I forget the name
or email contact right now.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: scanman 256 drivers
Date: 22 Jun 1996 12:44:55 GMT
Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC.
Message-ID: <4qgps7$ptq@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>
References: <4qg0b9$qfv@ktk2.smartt.com>
Cc: rhoward@smartt.com
In <4qg0b9$qfv@ktk2.smartt.com> rhoward@smartt.com wrote:
> Im having trouble finding drivers for my scanman256.
> I would like to download them if anyone could give me an address
> thanks
>
I don't think you will find one... I have not seen support for _any_ handheld
scanner for NS, only for SCSI connected flatbed types. Of course it should be
possible to port a driver from Linux or FreeBSD but this means a lot of work.
BTW MScan.app (an inofficial scan application for the Mustek Paragon 6000cx
scanner (and its clones) series) will be available for free download on my
homepage next week.
--
Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page
http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank
NeXTSTEP, Linux & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C
ga ga"
From: jorice@cs.tcd.ie (Jonathan Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Importing into Create? Native format? Illustrator?
Date: 22 Jun 1996 11:58:05 GMT
Organization: TCD, Computer Science
Message-ID: <4qgn4d$2bp@news.cs.tcd.ie>
Keywords: Create, Illustrator, File Formats
I want to feed the output of a certain digraph layout program
("dot" from AT&T) into Stone Design's "Create" drawing app for
touching up and annotation. I have the source for "dot" so I can
tailor what's output to any desired degree. The sort of pictures
I'll be producing are not so complex - a number of rectangles,
ellipses, polygons and arrowheaded splines (okay, so that last one
is a little more complex).
What I need to know is has anybody done anything similar, in
creating Create files from scratch? Or Illustrator files, which
I understand Create will read? I am working a little blind on all
this as I don't yet own copy of Create and there is a limit to how
much you can experiment with files in the demo version.
-- Jonathan Rice
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From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: What NeXT archives do email ftp?
Date: 22 Jun 1996 10:19:49 -0400
Organization: PHCS
Message-ID: <4qgve5$f1l@papoose.quick.com>
References: <4q8ilt$bhm@bagan.srce.hr>
In article <4q8ilt$bhm@bagan.srce.hr>, Thor Legvold <thor@zems.fer.hr> wrote:
>What I would like to know is where/how I can access
>next-ftp.peak.org, peanuts, and the new MusicKit
>home from ftp-by-email. I would really appreciate
>any help anyone could give.
There are several sites that provide ftpmail functionality. I used the
service several years ago when I only had a uucp feed. The service
was sometimes unreliable, but it's better than nothing.
qouted from an ftpmail information page on the web.
Several sites_ on the Internet offer an ftpmail service, and anyone
with access to e-mail can use them. Users are requested not to make
use of ftpmail services at sites remote from them. In France, there
is a service at ftpmail@grasp.insa-lyon.fr and in the United Kingdom
there is a service at ftpmail@doc.ic.ac.uk. There is an ftpmail
service in the U.S.A at ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com.
The ftpmail package is based on perl scripts, which are available from:
src.doc.ic.ac.uk: /packages/ftpmail
grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr: /pub/unix/mail/tools/ftpmail
ftp.sterling.com: /mail/ftpmail
Ftpmail was written by Paul Vixie.
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___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com
/ / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K.
\_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343
) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: When NS4.0?
Date: 22 Jun 1996 16:40:51 GMT
Organization: University of Sheffield, UK
Message-ID: <4qh7mj$gf8@bignews.shef.ac.uk>
References: <4ps3q0$sam@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <4qecdq$s0r@lion.embl-heidelberg.de> <4qeqrp$7g3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
In-Reply-To: <4qeqrp$7g3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
On 06/21/96, Lones A Smith wrote:
> The innovations that come with many upgrades are generally slim,
> and the cost of switching NS on two systems (my situation)
> substantial. Hackers and tinkers (fortunately over-represented
> in this group!) who love toying with the latest gadgets are the
> major class of people egging for the next upgrade.
>
Umm, you mean the people who represent NeXT's primary market -- the
developers...? The people who might want 4.0 not for the fact that it's an
upgrade, but for the fact that it'll be OpenStep-cmopatible, and all that
means (or should mean)?
> The main reason to switch is that one cannot upgrade the software
> I use otherwise. This is the sense that the upgrades "force" this.
> I am still on 3.2, and occasionally this fact is made very real to me.
>
If you upgrade to 3.3 you should be able to use ~ all the s/w you want. I
suspect there will be few *new* apps which will run *only* on 4.0. I'm not
sure what your problem is here?
> Yes, I want NS to succeed, but feel that the artificial compression
> of the so-called software innovation cycle is more herd-following
> hype than a genuine effort to create a great operating system.
>
I think NEXTSTEP is a *lot* better than most other systems in the area of
backwards compatibility. Remember all those apps which suddenly got a whole
heap *better* in the 1.0->2.0 upgrade, when they could suddenly use colour?
I know people who stoll use 1.0 apps on 3.3 systems, and as far as I'm aware
4.0 should still run them.
I think you're fundamentally misunderstanding the radical shift the "NEXTSTEP
4.0" represents -- the fact that its official designation is "OpenStep 4.0
for Mach" should be a clue.
Best wishes,
mmalc.
--
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP:Need Mac 7.5 Print Driver for NeXT laser printer
Date: 22 Jun 1996 15:13:01 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
Message-ID: <4qhr5d$srt@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <4qfe4e$efr@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>
Joe McReynolds <joemc@lmsc.lockheed.com> wrote:
>Anyone know where I can get a Mac (OS 7.5.2) printer driver (i.e., a
>chooser extension) which will drive a NeXT laser printer!? No luck in
>the Mac archives I've searched. Thanks much for any help!
No such beast. If you want to use a NeXT LP with 7.5.2, you need to get
a NeXT Cube or Slab and run Daydream on it. No way to run a LP off of
non-NeXT hardware.
--
Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS
Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
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From: shivers@ai.mit.edu (Olin Shivers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS 4.0 questions
Date: 22 Jun 1996 19:10:52 -0400
Organization: Artificial Intelligence Lab, MIT
Sender: shivers@lambda.ai.mit.edu
Message-ID: <qij688jv3ib.fsf@lambda.ai.mit.edu>
I'm a little confused by the new NS 4.0 / Openstep architecture.
If I bought it for my Sun box, would it run both Sun's X environment and
Display Postscript?
If I got OpenStep for Windows, would it run both Microsoft's Windows
programs and Display Postscript apps?
Do you get things like NeXT's file manager/browser with OpenStep for
{Windows, Solaris}?
I'm wondering about this because having Display Postscript around is
pretty wonderful -- but it's also a drag that one cannot then use
other, more common screen display systems like X.
I am also wondering if there will be OpenStep implementations that run on
other PC Unixes besides NeXT'S Mach. I wasn't too happy with NeXT's Mach
because it was not very Posix compliant, which is pretty lame. The ability to
purchase OpenStep for linux or FreeBSD would mean the ability to get
commercial-quality productivity apps for these OS's, which would make them
very slick. There's nothing like NeXT's file browser in the X world -- the
available systems such as xfm just are not in the same ballpark.
-Olin
From: "Andrew M. Priasmoro" <ampriasm@students.wisc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GateKeeper Connection
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 20:34:13 -0500
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Message-ID: <31CC9F15.11FB@students.wisc.edu>
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Hi,
I am trying to use GateKeeper-0.9.NI and PPP-2.2.0.4.6 for my NeXTStep
Intel machine. Unfortunately, I have encountered problems with the
"link" in GateKeeper menu. I created my scripts according to the exam-
ples given by the GateKeeper. My modem dialed up to my ISP properly
and obtained the local and remote IPs as well. However, after it ob-
tained the local and remotes IPs, the connection disconnected. Here is
the part of the messages I checked from the PPP-2.2.log file:
.
.
.
.
.
##########################
#### local IP address is: 204.120.5.128
##########################
#### remote IP address is: 204.120.4.7
##########################
June 22 18:41:31 silicon pppd[1504]: Setting interface mask to
255.255.255.0
June 22 18:41:33 silicon pppd[1504]: rcvd[IPCP ConfReq id=0x3 <compress
VJ 0f 00><addr 204.120.4.7>]
June 22 18:41:33 silicon pppd[1504]: ipcp:down
June 22 18:41:33 silicon pppd[1504]: sent[IPCP ConfReq id=0x3 <addr
0.0.0.0><compress VJ 0f 01>]
June 22 18:41:33 silicon pppd[1504]: ipcp:received COMPRESSTYPE
June 22 18:41:33 silicon pppd[1504]: (45)
June 22 18:41:33 silicon pppd[1504]: (ACK)
June 22 18:41:33 silicon pppd[1504]: ipcp:received ADDR
June 22 18:41:33 silicon pppd[1504]: (204.120.4.7)
June 22 18:41:33 silicon pppd[1504]: (ACK)
June 22 18:41:33 silicon pppd[1504]: ipcp:returning Configure-ACK
June 22 18:41:33 silicon pppd[1504]: sent [IPCP confAck id=0x3 <compress
VJ 0f 00> <addr 204.120.4.7>]
June 22 18:41:33 silicon pppd[1504]: Terminating on signal 2.
June 22 18:41:33 silicon pppd[1504]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2]
June 22 18:41:34 silicon pppd[1504]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x3 <addr
204.120.5.128>]
June 22 18:41:34 silicon pppd[1504]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
June 22 18:41:34 silicon pppd[1504]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x4]
June 22 18:41:34 silicon pppd[1504]: Connection terminated.
June 22 18:41:35 silicon pppd[1504]: Exit.
Does anyone have any pointers, why after pppd sucessfully negotiated
the local and remote IPs, it went to "ipcp:down" and eventually
terminated the connection of my modem to my ISP? By the way I am using
inexpress.net as my ISP, if anyone knows about this ISP, what kinds of
scripts (pppup, options, ipup, ipdown, etc) do I need to write or
modify? And also I would be real appreciate if anyone could give me
some scripts that will sustain the connection between my modem and my
ISP. Until now, I don't even have enough time to execute the OMNIWEB,
the connection has already timed out.
Once again, I want to thank you in advance for your helps. I hope, I
will hear the answers soon from you.
Andrew.
From: "Andrew M. Priasmoro" <ampriasm@students.wisc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Resolving Problem
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 04:03:06 -0500
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Message-ID: <31CD084A.1C7B@students.wisc.edu>
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Hi,
Does anyone know the solution how to resolve nameserver? My problem was
after connection through PPP-2.2 I could not telnet or use browser by
just typing the machine names, instead I had to type full IP addresses.
I have my resolv.conf as follows:
domain wisc.edu
# WISC name servers
#
nameserver x.x.x.x
where x.x.x.x is the DNS number.
Could anyone tell me what was wrong with my resolv.conf file?
Andrew.
From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Any proxy server support NeXTSTEP????
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Date: 23 Jun 1996 15:21:18 GMT
Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands
Message-ID: <4qjnde$qgg@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
References: <4qg52j$p8k@inferno.mpx.com.au>
Operator (root@bluesky-syd.bluesky.net.au) wrote:
> we have tried the apache 1.1b4..
It ain't the newest fastest greatest, but the CERN httpd with proxy runs just
fine for me. Available from www.w3.org I think, it used to have precompiled
version for black & intel h/w, but it seems these have disppeared...
--
G.J. van Oldenborgh
Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics, Leiden University
email: gj@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl
web: http://www-lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html
From: Matt Agler <matagl@sypher.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Sun to acquire Lighthouse Design
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:54:46 -0400
Organization: Sypher Consulting
Message-ID: <31CDE756.30899022@sypher.com>
References: <Pine.OSF.3.93.960618133623.4677B-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <4q8ahd$7sb@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> <4q93q9$13t@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
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Paul Lynch wrote:
> - Web Products
>
> This wasn't mentioned, but the thought of having server and client Java
> products must be the main motivation for this sale. Java isn't just for
> the Web, and Sun are well aware of this. An excellent positioning ploy, I
> would say.
Sun just announced a <$1000 network computer.
http://www.sun.com:80/sunworldonline/swol-06-1996/swol-06-toaster.html
Could they be looking to
vend these end user applications over the net? All these internet-only
computers need more software than just a java enabled browser. Could
the Lighthouse products be vended from NEO servers to multiple cheapo
net clients? Is this feasable? Otherwise, what are people going to
do on these machines?
>
> If I am right, expect more, non-NeXT related, products from Lighthouse to
> be announced relatively soon. As an independent business unit, I think
> Lighthouse will retain enough of their history to keep NeXTSTEP products
> going, although they don't really have to. It is all a matter of loyalty
> to their customers.
--
Psychiatrists say that one out of four people are mentally ill. Check
three friends. If they're OK, you're it.
http://www.sypher.com------------------ -------------matagl@sypher.com
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Importing into Create? Native format? Illustrator?
Date: 24 Jun 1996 01:44:40 GMT
Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC.
Message-ID: <4qkru8$bip@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>
References: <4qgn4d$2bp@news.cs.tcd.ie>
Cc: jorice@cs.tcd.ie
In <4qgn4d$2bp@news.cs.tcd.ie> Jonathan Rice wrote:
> I want to feed the output of a certain digraph layout program
> ("dot" from AT&T) into Stone Design's "Create" drawing app for
> touching up and annotation. I have the source for "dot" so I can
> tailor what's output to any desired degree. The sort of pictures
> I'll be producing are not so complex - a number of rectangles,
> ellipses, polygons and arrowheaded splines (okay, so that last one
> is a little more complex).
>
> What I need to know is has anybody done anything similar, in
> creating Create files from scratch? Or Illustrator files, which
> I understand Create will read? I am working a little blind on all
> this as I don't yet own copy of Create and there is a limit to how
> much you can experiment with files in the demo version.
>
> -- Jonathan Rice
>
If dot can export EPS files, you can try to use ps2ai to convert these to
Adobe Illustrator files and read the AI files into Create (if it can import
AI files, I do not know for sure...).
--
Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page
http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank
NeXTSTEP & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C ga ga"
From: Mark Strand <marks@soli.inav.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS 4.0 questions
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:36:31 -0500
Organization: Internet Navigator, Inc.
Message-ID: <31CDF11F.7759@soli.inav.net>
References: <qij688jv3ib.fsf@lambda.ai.mit.edu>
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Olin Shivers wrote:
>
> I'm a little confused by the new NS 4.0 / Openstep architecture.
>
> If I bought it for my Sun box, would it run both Sun's X environment and
> Display Postscript?
>
Yep: Openstep is an "object layer" that allows apps written to the Openstep API and compiled
properly to run on your machine next to your native Sun environment.
> If I got OpenStep for Windows, would it run both Microsoft's Windows
> programs and Display Postscript apps?
Yep. Postscript is included in the Openstep API.
> Do you get things like NeXT's file manager/browser with OpenStep for
> {Windows, Solaris}?
I don't think so. I think you just get developer tools. Openstep is a hidden layer, not a bunch of
apps (you won't open it up and get NeXTmail, Librarian, Chess, etc.) Their job isn't to reinvent the
OS they're running on, just to let you develop your own native-looking apps (that look native on
NeXTSTEP/Openstep 4, or on NT, or on Solaris, et al).
> I'm wondering about this because having Display Postscript around is
> pretty wonderful -- but it's also a drag that one cannot then use
> other, more common screen display systems like X.
>
There have long been available 2 X-windows client packages for NeXTSTEP, enabling you to run X apps
right next to your NeXT apps, so X integration is nothing new.
> I am also wondering if there will be OpenStep implementations that run on
> other PC Unixes besides NeXT'S Mach. I wasn't too happy with NeXT's Mach
> because it was not very Posix compliant, which is pretty lame. The ability to
> purchase OpenStep for linux or FreeBSD would mean the ability to get
> commercial-quality productivity apps for these OS's, which would make them
> very slick. There's nothing like NeXT's file browser in the X world -- the
> available systems such as xfm just are not in the same ballpark.
> -Olin
People who run free Unixes shelling out $5K for developer tools? Hmm... :)
Seriously though, that's what gnustep is. Do a yahoo search for their site.
One question I still have is... Are they still supporting mach (real Mach, what used to be called
NeXTSTEP) on all those other platforms? will your choices now be:
Openstep for Solaris (Sun HW) ("object layer")
Openstep for Mach for SUN (Sun HW) ("native")
Openstep for HP-UX (HP HW) ("object layer")
Openstep for Mach for HP (HP HW) ("native")
etc.
depending on whether you want to jump completely to NeXT apps/interface/etc. or want to run Openstep
side by side with your "native" OS? Will there be different levels of compatibility between
Mach/Openstep on HP and Openstep on HPUX on HP? Will they both run NS 3.3 apps & Openstep equally
well? Lots of choices...
From: boshons@seanet .com(Boshon Sprague)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS 4.0
Date: 24 Jun 1996 04:00:29 GMT
Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA
Message-ID: <4ql3st$glv@kaleka.seanet.com>
I Have heard that "in the lab" quotes of all kinds of things but I was
really hoping that multiprocessor support was real.... Anybody at BaNG let us
know please. thanks
From: sanguish@digifix.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep
Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet
Date: 24 Jun 1996 04:15:09 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Distribution: inet
Message-ID: <4ql4od$a16@digifix.digifix.com>
Topics include:
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
eduSTEP WWW site
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
comp.sys.next newsgroups
related newsgroups
comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list
ftp sites
NeXTanswers
Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site
===============================================
This online community resource includes
- 150+ ISV company pages
- 350+ ISV product descriptions
- NEXTSTEP Developer Directory
- NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages
- NEXTSTEP User Group Directory
- comp.sys.next archives
- User Group information
- Mailing List archives and information
You can connect via the world wide web at:
http://www.stepwise.com/
Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com
If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise,
please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com.
eduSTEP WWW site
================
http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/
eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on:
- NextStep tools and projects for scientists.
- Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific
community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist).
- A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with
customers in the educational community.
- Conferences, meetings, workshops
- Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a
NextStep scientific work environment
- Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation
of OpenStep now being developed
NeXT Software, Inc. WWW site
============================
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==========================
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Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed
include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc.
news:comp.object
Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT
and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost
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Getting the Newsgroups without getting News
===========================================
Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are
now available as a mailing list digest as well.
next-nextstep-d
next-advocacy-d
next-announce-d
next-bugs-d
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(For a full description, send mail saying LISTS to
<digestif@antigone.com>).
The subscription syntax is essentially the same as LISTSERV's.
To subscribe, send a message to <digestif@antigone.com> saying:
SUB Listname YourName
Example: SUB next-hardware-d John Doe
The ftp sites
=============
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org: The main site for North American submissions
(formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu)
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany.
ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next Peanuts mirror in the US
ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) and
ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group)
ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next/ eduStep
ftp://ftp.next.com: See below
ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com
=====================================
[from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help]
Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system!
This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and
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From: pascal@localhost (Pascal Thibaudeau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: OpenGL support for NEXTSTEP?
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: 24 Jun 1996 05:18:22 GMT
Organization: CRIBX1 , Universite de Bordeaux I , France
Message-ID: <4ql8eu$l7b@news.u-bordeaux.fr>
References: <01bb5e50.fc5f01a0$0e0a40ca@alexander>
Elwood K.F. Chu (c3801721@comp.polyu.edu.hk) wrote:
: I would like to know whether OpenGL support as well as development kit for
: NEXTSTEP?
: ---------------
: Elwood K.F. Chu
: BA (Hons) Computing Year 3
: Hong Kong Polytechnic University
Try Mesa-OpenGL for NeXTSTEP
Getting the software
====================
The primary Mesa ftp site is iris.ssec.wisc.edu in the pub/Mesa directory.
Mesa is also mirrored on sunsite in the directory pub/packages/development
/graphics/mesa.
The archive file Mesa-1.2.8.tar.Z can be unpacked with:
zcat Mesa-1.2.8.tar.Z | tar xf -
The archive file Mesa-1.2.8.tar.gz can be unpacked with:
gzcat Mesa-1.2.8.tar.gz | tar xf -
After you unpacking you should have the following files in the Mesa-1.2.8
directory:
README - this file
README.AMIWIN - instructions for using Mesa on Amigas with AmiWin (X11)
LICENSE - the GNU library license
IAFA-PACKAGE - description file
Makefile - top-level Makefile
Make-config - system configurations used by the Makefiles
mklib.* - scripts for making shared libraries for some systems
include/ - application include files
lib/ - application libraries, created during installation
src/ - source code for core library
src-glu/ - source code for utility library
src-tk/ - source code for tk library
src-aux/ - source code for aux library
demos/ - demo programs
samples/ - sample OpenGL programs from SGI
book/ - example programs from the OpenGL Programming Guide
widgets/ - the Mesa widgets
windows/ - Microsoft Windows driver stuff
NeXT/ - NeXT demo programs
mondello/ - Cirrus Logic Mondello 3-D accelerator code
--
-Pascal Thibaudeau
**********************************************************************
E-Mail:
pthibaud@frbdx11.cribx1.u-bordeaux.fr ( NO NEXTMAIL )
pascal@galileo.slip.u-bordeaux.fr ( Small NEXTMAIL OK )
Powered by NEXTSTEP
**********************************************************************
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP:Need Mac 7.5 Print Driver for NeXT laser printer
Date: 23 Jun 1996 09:10:51 GMT
Organization: Navigator
Message-ID: <4qj1mr$c2@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com>
References: <4qfe4e$efr@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>
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Cc: joemc@lmsc.lockheed.com
In <4qfe4e$efr@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com> Joe McReynolds wrote:
> Anyone know where I can get a Mac (OS 7.5.2) printer driver (i.e., a
> chooser extension) which will drive a NeXT laser printer!? No luck in
> the Mac archives I've searched. Thanks much for any help!
There's a commercial product called "InterPrint" from Intercon which does the
trick. Have a look at http://www.intercon.com/
--
Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de
IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.neworbit.de/navigator/
From: rdieter@mathlab44.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ncftp -- 2.30 precompiled -- can anyone use it?
Date: 24 Jun 1996 14:11:29 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <4qm7mh$83d@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960620040423.2473A-100000@charisma>
In article <Pine.NXT.3.94.960620040423.2473A-100000@charisma> "Timothy J.
Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> writes:
> I was very happy to see that there is a version of ncftp (2.3.0) on
> the archives, and in a .pkg form, no less!
>
> However, I found it to be un-useable:
Thank you. I made it. Unfortunately, you didn't take note of the
accompanying README file. )-;
> WARNING: could not determine full host name (have: 'charisma').
> The program should be re-compiled with DOMAINNAME defined to be the
> domain name, i.e. -DDOMAINNAME=\"unl.edu\"
This is a bummer. When you set your hostname, ncftp insists on a FQN (Fully
Qualified Domain Name), in that: your hostname ought to include your domain.
If it doesn't you'll get a gripe like the above everytime you run it. No
harm.
> Error: Unrecognized preference option "maxhosts".
> "/etc/termcap", line 1205: terminal 'M1', slashes aren't allowed in
> names or aliases
ncftp-2.3 uses ncurses, which requires terminfo terminal definitions to be
installed. I suppose I didn't upload these... (sorry)... I'll do that
today.
BTW, ncurses SUPPOSEDLY is backward compatible with termcap definitions, but
as you found out, it doesn't work with NEXTSTEP's termcap definitions.
--
Rex Dieter
Computer System Manager
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska Lincoln
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: NS 4.0 questions
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DtICso.Lur@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:12:24 GMT
References: <qij688jv3ib.fsf@lambda.ai.mit.edu> <31CDF11F.7759@soli.inav.net>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <31CDF11F.7759@soli.inav.net>,
Mark Strand <marks@soli.inav.net> wrote:
>> Do you get things like NeXT's file manager/browser with OpenStep for
>> {Windows, Solaris}?
>
>I don't think so. I think you just get developer tools. Openstep is a hidden layer, not a bunch of
>apps (you won't open it up and get NeXTmail, Librarian, Chess, etc.) Their job isn't to reinvent the
>OS they're running on, just to let you develop your own native-looking apps (that look native on
>NeXTSTEP/Openstep 4, or on NT, or on Solaris, et al).
>
Sun, it seems, will be including some stuff like Workspace in the OpenStep
part of NEO.
>One question I still have is... Are they still supporting mach (real Mach, what used to be called
>NeXTSTEP) on all those other platforms? will your choices now be:
>
>Openstep for Solaris (Sun HW) ("object layer")
>Openstep for Mach for SUN (Sun HW) ("native")
>Openstep for HP-UX (HP HW) ("object layer")
>Openstep for Mach for HP (HP HW) ("native")
>etc.
>
I don't think there's an Openstep for HP-UX and I *know* there's no OS/Mach
4.0 for HP hardware. I think 3.3 may be the end of the line.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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From: 476TJL@ptsmail.ptsem.edu (LUOMA,TIMOTHY)
Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com
Subject: RE: ncftp -- 2.30 precompiled -- can anyone use it?
Message-ID: <F46E7A3101A23A0C@-SMF->
Date: 24 Jun 96 10:19:00 EDT
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FORWARDED MESSAGE from Rex Dieter (rdieter@math.unl.edu) at 6/24/96
RD> 9:08 AM
RD> In article <Pine.NXT.3.94.960620040423.2473A-100000@charisma> "Timothy
RD> J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> writes:
RD>
> I was very happy to see that there is a version of ncftp (2.3.0) on
> the archives, and in a .pkg form, no less!
>
> However, I found it to be un-useable:
RD>
RD> Thank you. I made it. Unfortunately, you didn't take note of the
RD> accompanying README file. )-;
I plead insanity.
I have been waiting for PPP since Sept 14th, 1995 when my school "upgraded"
their dialin system. This rendered PPP unusable.
I finally (last week) signed up for $12.60/month with an ISP, and then
spent about 15 hours on-line, downloading everything that I saw :-)
> WARNING: could not determine full host name (have: 'charisma').
> The program should be re-compiled with DOMAINNAME defined to be the
> domain name, i.e. -DDOMAINNAME=\"unl.edu\"
RD> This is a bummer. When you set your hostname, ncftp insists on a FQN
RD> (Fully Qualified Domain Name), in that: your hostname ought to include
RD> your domain. If it doesn't you'll get a gripe like the above everytime
RD> you run it. No harm.
> Error: Unrecognized preference option "maxhosts".
> "/etc/termcap", line 1205: terminal 'M1', slashes aren't allowed in
> names or aliases
>
RD> ncftp-2.3 uses ncurses, which requires terminfo terminal definitions to
RD> be installed. I suppose I didn't upload these... (sorry)... I'll do
RD> that today.
RD> BTW, ncurses SUPPOSEDLY is backward compatible with termcap
RD> definitions, but as you found out, it doesn't work with NEXTSTEP's
RD> termcap definitions.
Ah, well, this must have been what kept ncftp from running for me (it would
launch and die after those two messages).
There's a version of ncurses at:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/sources/programming/ncurses-1.9.6.NIHS.s.
README
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/sources/programming/ncurses-1.9.6.NIHS.s.
tar.gz
I'll get that.
Thanks
TjL
(also sent to csn-software)
[PLEASE: respond to 'luomat@nerc.com' rather than this address.
I _cannot_ set a 'reply-to' line from this Novell mail craplet.]
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP:Need Mac 7.5 Print Driver for NeXT laser printer
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:48:13 -0700
Organization: First Evangelical Free Church
Message-ID: <joel-2406960948140001@asteroid08.threedi.com>
References: <4qfe4e$efr@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com>
>Anyone know where I can get a Mac (OS 7.5.2) printer driver (i.e., a
>chooser extension) which will drive a NeXT laser printer!? No luck in
>the Mac archives I've searched. Thanks much for any help!
Sorry bud, they don't exist...
So far, I've never seen anyone get a NeXT laser printer to work outside of
a NeXT. You can sometimes use the NeXT as a print spooler, but you have to
print to a postscript file and then ftp it over. A royal pain.
It's the main reason I didn't purchase the NeXT printer.
If I'm wrong, I'd love to know.
Joel
| Joel Lingenfelter
-=+=-
| Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be
| transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: bettez@oopst.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: I don't like mail.app
Date: 24 Jun 1996 17:04:31 GMT
Organization: oops Telecommunication
Message-ID: <4qmhqv$954@neon.Mlink.NET>
I need automatic mail filtering and drag&drop support!
Can I have a (graphical) alternative?
__________________________________________
Jean-Sebatien Bettez
bettez@oopst.com
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS 4.0 questions
Date: 24 Jun 1996 18:10:31 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4qmlmn$13g@news.next.com>
References: <qij688jv3ib.fsf@lambda.ai.mit.edu>
Olin Shivers writes
> I'm a little confused by the new NS 4.0 / Openstep architecture.
>
> If I bought it for my Sun box, would it run both Sun's X environment
> and Display Postscript?
Depends on what you mean by that question. There two implementations of
OPENSTEP for Sun hardware:
1. OPENSTEP for Mach (NeXT's product)
Will run NEXTSTEP 3.3 applications
Will run OPENSTEP for Mach applications
2. Solaris NEO/OPENSTEP (Sun's product)
Will run Solaris X applications
Will run OPENSTEP for Solaris applications
So, if you buy Sun's OPENSTEP, you can run regular Solaris programs, ans
new OPENSTEP Solaris programs together. If you buy NeXT's OPENSTEP, you
can't run Solaris applications on it.
> If I got OpenStep for Windows, would it run both Microsoft's Windows
> programs and Display Postscript apps?
Yes. Although it would be more accurate to say "OPENSTEP apps", since
Display Postscript is just a part of OPENSTEP.
> Do you get things like NeXT's file manager/browser with OpenStep for
> {Windows, Solaris}?
Not for windows. NeXT (and Sun?) will provide a NEXTSTEP-style file
browser for their OPENSTEP implementation on UNIX.
> I'm wondering about this because having Display Postscript around is
> pretty wonderful -- but it's also a drag that one cannot then use
> other, more common screen display systems like X.
Even under NEXTSTEP, there are X server programs available...
> I am also wondering if there will be OpenStep implementations that run
> on other PC Unixes besides NeXT'S Mach.
If the GNUStep project ever gets finished, then YES. Otherwise, I just
don't know. I suppose if people wanted to pay for it, someone could
license NeXT's code and port it to just about any OS they wanted...
> I wasn't too happy with NeXT's Mach because it was not very Posix
> compliant, which is pretty lame. The ability to purchase OpenStep for
> linux or FreeBSD would mean the ability to get commercial-quality
> productivity apps for these OS's, which would make them very slick.
I'm not sure how the availability of OPENSTEP would necessarily lead to
better productivity applications on Linux.
> There's nothing like NeXT's file browser in the X world -- the
> available systems such as xfm just are not in the same ballpark.
Unfortunately (or fortunately), the NeXT GUI isn't part of the OPENSTEP
specification. So, the existence of the OPENSTEP libraries on some
platform doesn't do much of anything to improve the user experience, by
itself.
--
Mark Bessey
NeXT Software, Inc
Software Quality Assurance
-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: thor@zems.fer.hr (Thor Legvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: GateKeeper problems
Date: 24 Jun 1996 18:19:05 GMT
Organization: RITEH
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4qmm6p$7eq@bagan.srce.hr>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I tried emailing the author but my message bounced.
Maybe someone here has seen this and knows how to fix it?
NS 3.3, new drivers (3.33, 3.34, etc)
GK v.0.9, PPP v. 2.2-0.4.5:
May 28 23:03:29 valhall mach: PPP version 2.2b3 for NS 3.2 and 3.3
May 28 23:03:29 valhall mach: LKS: $Revision: 4.9 $ ($Date:
1995/07/27 16:01:45 $)
Every time I try to "Dial" I get a:
Error opening script file.: Permission denied
connected
[Process was terminated by signal 10]
even if run as Root (it already is setuid)
Running "pppd -detach file /LocalApps/GateKeeper.app/options"
from a shell works (well, it doesn't complain at least).
I've checked the permissions, /etc/ppp is a symlink to
/usr/local/ppp/etc, everything is readable to everyone,
owned by root; /LocalApps/GateKeeper.app/GateKeeper is
setuid and readable/executable globally, the config and
options files are readable globally. The FIFO syslog
attaches correctly. I don't know what else to look for -
ppp works when started manually from Kermit 5A.
valhall% ls -l /LocalApps/GateKeeper.app/
total 3817
drwxr-xr-x 8 root 1024 Jul 17 1995 English.lproj
drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Jul 10 1995 Examples
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root 2562228 Jul 17 1995 GateKeeper
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 460316 Jul 17 1995 MODEM
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 9410 May 27 1995 g1.tiff
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 829414 Mar 25 1995 majestic.snd
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 153 May 28 22:46 modemInit
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 3592 May 28 22:34 options
valhall% ls -l /dev/cu*
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 7,128 May 28 23:03 /dev/cua
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 7,129 May 28 23:03 /dev/cub
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 7,224 May 28 23:03 /dev/cudfa
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 7,225 May 28 23:03 /dev/cudfb
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 7,160 May 28 23:03 /dev/cufa
crw-rw-rw- 1 root 7,161 May 28 23:20 /dev/cufb
valhall% ls -l /usr/local/ppp/etc
total 72
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 26 Nov 2 1994 courier.oppsett
-rwxr-xr-- 1 root 712 Nov 2 1994 ip-down
-rwxr-xr-- 1 root 1150 Nov 2 1994 ip-up
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 3610 May 28 22:36 options
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 3555 Nov 30 1995 options~
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 3554 Nov 2 1994 options~~
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 676 Jul 3 1995 pppdown
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 53208 Nov 2 1994 pppkill
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 177 May 28 23:38 pppup
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 301 Nov 2 1994 pppup.courier
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 832 Nov 2 1994 tips.txt
On a side note, I can't get GateKeeper (or tip) to work
with a 28.8/57.6 baud entry (in remotes and also in
gettytab for terminals), only with 38.4...
Ideas?
Regards,
Thor Legvold
presently in exile in Croatia
From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: How to logout from NetWare Server
Date: 24 Jun 1996 18:34:00 GMT
Organization: Private NEXTSTEP site, Germany
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4qmn2o$3ef@mimi.in-berlin.de>
Hello!
Is there a simple way (like "logout" under MS-DOS) to logout from an NetWare
Server connected via NEXTSTEP? Login is simple just goto /Net/<servername>
and wait for login-panel but logout?
Ok, with NetWareManager you should do this but first it's not very simple (my
opinion) and second it doesn't work every time.
I would prefer a simple logout-program to do this.
Hope someone could help me,
Gerald
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| email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome)
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|
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] Is there any speech recognition s/w for NS/Moto?
Date: 24 Jun 1996 20:28:44 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <4qmtps$7hr@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Is there any software that does speech recognition on black
hardware? If so, how well does it work? Is any of it in the
public domain?
Thanks in advance,
David Finton
finton@cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de>
Subject: Re: fortune and creating .dat files
In-Reply-To: ipaschke@xlan.hil.de's message of Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:31:52 GMT
Message-ID: <7x20j5122a.fsf@burrow.muc.de>
To: ipaschke@xlan.hil.de (Ingo Paschke)
Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de
Organization: caring for little Tigers
References: <7xn322vvi7.fsf@burrow.muc.de> <DtAL54.3CB@xlan.hil.de>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:37:02 GMT
>>>>> "tm" == Ingo Paschke markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de> writes:
tm> A nice 'fortune' always brightens up my day. Recently I
tm> discovered a (Linux) distribution with quotes galore. My
tm> problem: this distribution requires strfile to "create a
tm> random access file for storing strings". I don't have strfile
tm> and I can't compile it as it comes with said distribution.
>>>>> "IP" == Ingo Paschke <ipaschke@xlan.hil.de> writes:
IP> Fortune is part of the BSD-"games" package. You should have no
IP> problem getting it from some FTP-Server carrying either
IP> 4.4BSD-lite, Free- or NetBSD. They have some 5 MB or so of
IP> fortunes and all required support-files like strfile.
As I wrote above I've got that distribution but I have problems
compiling strfile (I don't know very much about programming):
strfile.c:77: header file 'endian.h' not found
/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:120: undefined type, found `u_char'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:121: undefined type, found `u_short'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:122: undefined type, found `u_long'
/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:191: undefined type, found `u_short'
Thus I repeat my query: any known workaround?
Thanks in advance,
markus g
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From: Adam Fedor <fedor@boulder.colorado.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Upgrading NeXTTeX to LaTeX 2e
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 14:52:59 -0600
Organization: Optoelectronic Computing Systems Center
Message-ID: <31CF002B.30DC@boulder.colorado.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Is there a simple way to update the NeXTTeX package (or completely
replace it) with version 2e of LaTeX? Has someone done this already?
--
---
Adam Fedor. CU, Boulder | Fudd's Law of Opposition:
fedor@colorado.edu (MIME) | "If force doesn't work,
adam@rmnug.org (NeXTMail) | your not using enough."
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP:Need Mac 7.5 Print Driver for NeXT laser printer
Date: 24 Jun 1996 21:17:29 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <4qn0l9$1t3@news.next.com>
References: <joel-2406960948140001@asteroid08.threedi.com>
Joel Lingenfelter writes
> >Anyone know where I can get a Mac (OS 7.5.2) printer driver (i.e., a
> >chooser extension) which will drive a NeXT laser printer!? No luck in
> >the Mac archives I've searched. Thanks much for any help!
>
> Sorry bud, they don't exist...
>
> So far, I've never seen anyone get a NeXT laser printer to work
> outside of a NeXT. You can sometimes use the NeXT as a print spooler,
> but you have to print to a postscript file and then ftp it over. A
> royal pain.
>
> It's the main reason I didn't purchase the NeXT printer.
>
> If I'm wrong, I'd love to know.
>
> Joel
You're wrong. :-)
All you need is software for the other system that understands the UNIX
lpd protocol, and you can print to a NeXT printer over a network. I use
a NeXT laser printer from my Windows NT system, for instance.
Oh, you also need a Postscript printer driver, but that's trivial.
--
Mark Bessey
NeXT Software, Inc
Software Quality Assurance
-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: kkwan@cs.hku.hk (Kelvin Kwan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS 4.0 questions
Date: 24 Jun 1996 22:03:02 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, The University of Hong Kong
Message-ID: <4qn3am$pq7@hkusuc.hku.hk>
References: <qij688jv3ib.fsf@lambda.ai.mit.edu>
Olin Shivers (shivers@ai.mit.edu) wrote:
: I'm a little confused by the new NS 4.0 / Openstep architecture.
: If I bought it for my Sun box, would it run both Sun's X environment and
: Display Postscript?
Your Sun had X to begin with, and OPENTSTEP doesn't change that. You get
DPS with OPENSTEP, yes.
: If I got OpenStep for Windows, would it run both Microsoft's Windows
: programs and Display Postscript apps?
Ditto, although I can't think of any reason why anybody would want or need
anything like that.
: Do you get things like NeXT's file manager/browser with OpenStep for
: {Windows, Solaris}?
No. OPENSTEP allows the development and running of native apps with the
tools now available with NEXTSTEP. It's not an OS, and it's not a bunch of
apps. You can write it if you want to.
: I'm wondering about this because having Display Postscript around is
: pretty wonderful -- but it's also a drag that one cannot then use
: other, more common screen display systems like X.
You can have X on NS, with co-Xist, CubXWindow, etc. Check out
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/XNeXT/
: I am also wondering if there will be OpenStep implementations that run on
: other PC Unixes besides NeXT'S Mach. I wasn't too happy with NeXT's Mach
: because it was not very Posix compliant, which is pretty lame. The ability to
: purchase OpenStep for linux or FreeBSD would mean the ability to get
: commercial-quality productivity apps for these OS's, which would make them
: very slick.
I agree, and that's what GNUSTEP is about. Last time I talked to RMS he
said the guys were trying to make NS's ProjectBuilder more hacker-friendly.
I mentioned your Scsh, and he seemed interested. He mentioned something
about it being 48 and something else but I forgot exactly what he said.
: There's nothing like NeXT's file browser in the X world -- the
: available systems such as xfm just are not in the same ballpark.
True, and the same can be said for many NS apps, whether they come with NS
or not.
: -Olin
Long time no see...
-Kelvin
From: drbob@milquetoast (Robert E Beaty)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS4.0 & PPP
Date: 24 Jun 1996 21:31:10 GMT
Organization: First Chicago NBD Corporation, Chicago IL, USA
Message-ID: <4qn1eu$jhs@news.cmg.fcnbd.com>
References: <4qc0k3$34j@info.itsq8.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Ahmad Al-rasheedan (asr@itsq8.com) wrote:
: Is PPP built in NS4.0?
It is as of the 4.0 Gamma release.
--
Hi Ho,
Bob (drbob@cmg.fcnbd.com)
Member, Elite Architecture Hit Squad
We will write no code before it's designed.
First Chicago - NBD - Technical Architecture Group
Capital Markets Systems - (312)732-3087
From: an602@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James M. Bernatowicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXT Laser - Compatible Win95 driver?
Date: 24 Jun 1996 22:47:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Message-ID: <4qn5th$3ht@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Please forgive the cross-post. I'm not sure which category this
question falls under.
Which (if any) of the Win95 postscript drivers is compatible with
my NeXT 400dpi laser? I've used the Apple laserwriter driver,
genned postscript files to lpr on my 68040 slab, but some of my
Word documents yield postscript which the NeXT laser doesn't
swallow. I'd rather not go by trial and error if somebody already
knows.
Just to head off any confusion...
As I understand, PMLPR and SAMBA are aids for connectivity; they
help get the postscript across the net to the printer, right?
My problem is generating NeXT-compatible postscript files- not
transporting the files.
Can anyone suggest one of the printer drivers on the CD or point me
to an archive with a true NeXT driver for Win95?
Many thanks!
Jim Bernatowicz
--
Jim Bernatowicz an602@cleveland.freenet.edu jbernat@umcc.umich.edu KB8WYX
From: : t.joerg@uni-bonn.de (Torsten Joerg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to logout from NetWare Server
Date: 25 Jun 1996 01:19:32 GMT
Organization: home, sweet home...
Message-ID: <4qner4$8v@gandalf.uni-bonn.de>
References: <4qmn2o$3ef@mimi.in-berlin.de>
gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Is there a simple way (like "logout" under MS-DOS) to logout from an
NetWare
> Server connected via NEXTSTEP? Login is simple just goto /Net/<servername>
> and wait for login-panel but logout?
>
> Ok, with NetWareManager you should do this but first it's not very simple
(my
> opinion) and second it doesn't work every time.
>
> I would prefer a simple logout-program to do this.
>
> Hope someone could help me,
>
> Gerald
>
> --
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> | GERALD ERDMANN
> | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome)
> | voice: +49 30 397 31 400 (Germany - Berlin)
> | crypt: pgp2 public key available
> |
>
Just check /usr/bin/netware/nwlogout !
Torsten
From: witte@habanero.cul.columbia.edu (breck witte)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to logout from NetWare Server
Date: 25 Jun 1996 01:20:45 GMT
Organization: The Banzai Institute
Message-ID: <4qnetd$rjl@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>
References: <4qmn2o$3ef@mimi.in-berlin.de> <4qner4$8v@gandalf.uni-bonn.de>
and be sure to get out of the Netware directory (in any shells as well
as in the Workspace app) or as soon as you log out you'll be prompted
immediately to log back in again.
/breck
From: Mark Strand <marks@soli.inav.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I don't like mail.app
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:37:32 -0500
Organization: Internet Navigator, Inc.
Message-ID: <31CF42DC.29C0@soli.inav.net>
References: <4qmhqv$954@neon.Mlink.NET>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
bettez@oopst.com wrote:
>
> I need automatic mail filtering and drag&drop support!
> Can I have a (graphical) alternative?
> __________________________________________
> Jean-Sebatien Bettez
> bettez@oopst.com
One out of two ain't bad! 8-)
From: Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] Is there any speech recognition s/w for NS/Moto?
Date: 24 Jun 1996 21:24:02 -0700
Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet
Message-ID: <4qnpl2$j6v@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>
References: <4qmtps$7hr@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) wrote:
>Is there any software that does speech recognition on black
>hardware? If so, how well does it work? Is any of it in the
>public domain?
>
Yes, SimonSays.app by Metrosoft, allows voice remote control of a NeXT
box, and it's only for Moto as far as I can tell. I purchased a copy from
Metrosoft only a few weeks ago.
mary@metrosoft.com is who I got mine from.
--
Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS
Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve...
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From: : t.joerg@uni-bonn.de (Torsten Joerg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: How to logout from NetWare Server
Date: 25 Jun 1996 01:22:13 GMT
Organization: home, sweet home...
Message-ID: <4qnf05$8v@gandalf.uni-bonn.de>
References: <4qmn2o$3ef@mimi.in-berlin.de> <4qner4$8v@gandalf.uni-bonn.de>
: t.joerg@uni-bonn.de (Torsten Joerg) wrote:
> gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > Is there a simple way (like "logout" under MS-DOS) to logout from an
> NetWare
> > Server connected via NEXTSTEP? Login is simple just goto
/Net/<servername>
> > and wait for login-panel but logout?
> >
> > Ok, with NetWareManager you should do this but first it's not very simple
> (my
> > opinion) and second it doesn't work every time.
> >
> > I would prefer a simple logout-program to do this.
> >
> > Hope someone could help me,
> >
> > Gerald
> >
> > --
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > | GERALD ERDMANN
> > | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome)
> > | voice: +49 30 397 31 400 (Germany - Berlin)
> > | crypt: pgp2 public key available
> > |
> >
>
>
> Just check /usr/bin/netware/nwlogout !
>
> Torsten
OOPS - of course I meant /usr/netware/bin/nwlogout .... ;-)
Torsten, once more
From: Yuwen Cheng <yucheng@math.arizona.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Upgrading NeXTTeX to LaTeX 2e
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 00:37:25 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona, Mathematics
Message-ID: <31CF9735.103C@math.arizona.edu>
References: <31CF002B.30DC@boulder.colorado.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Adam Fedor wrote:
>
> Is there a simple way to update the NeXTTeX package (or completely
> replace it) with version 2e of LaTeX? Has someone done this already?
>
> --
There are two ways to get LaTeX2e for NeXT.
1. download LaTeX2e from any CTAN site and follow the instruction to make
a fmt file by using initex.
2. get the good distribution of teTeX from
zarquon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de
IMO, the simplest way is to make fmt file by yourself. But I'll recommend
you to switch to the most standard teTeX distribution.
--
----------------
Yuwen Cheng
University of Arizona, Math
yucheng@math.arizona.edu
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From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG
Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer
Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets
Message-ID: <19960625.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG>
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Date: 25 Jun 1996 01:00:00 -0600
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: markus g <tm@burrow.muc.de>
Subject: Re: ncftp -- 2.30 precompiled -- can anyone use it?
In-Reply-To: "Timothy J. Luoma"'s message of Thu, 20 Jun 1996 04:05:00 -0400
Message-ID: <7xybldylg6.fsf@burrow.muc.de>
To: 476tjl@ptsmail.ptsem.edu
Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de
Organization: caring for little Tigers
References: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960620040423.2473A-100000@charisma>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 20:51:53 GMT
>>>>> "TJL" == Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> writes:
TJL> I was very happy to see that there is a version of ncftp
TJL> (2.3.0) on the archives, and in a .pkg form, no less!
TJL> However, I found it to be un-useable:
TJL> WARNING: could not determine full host name (have:
TJL> 'charisma'). The program should be re-compiled with
TJL> DOMAINNAME defined to be the domain name,
TJL> i.e. -DDOMAINNAME=\"unl.edu\"
I get a similar message.
TJL> Error: Unrecognized preference option "maxhosts".
TJL> "/etc/termcap", line 1205: terminal 'M1', slashes aren't
TJL> allowed in names or aliases
Not this one though. Could it be related to the shell you are using?
There really is no preference option "maxhosts" (not in my
~/.ncftp/prefs file).
TJL> Has anyone else been able to get this to work (NS 3.2 m68k)?
For me it works and it proved a very useful tool. Sorry if this isn't
of very much help to you.
markus g
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From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Upgrading NeXTTeX to LaTeX 2e
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:21:33 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd
Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk
Message-ID: <DtJwry.A2x@cam-ani.co.uk>
References: <31CF002B.30DC@boulder.colorado.edu>
In article <31CF002B.30DC@boulder.colorado.edu> Adam Fedor
<fedor@boulder.colorado.edu> writes:
> Is there a simple way to update the NeXTTeX package (or completely
> replace it) with version 2e of LaTeX? Has someone done this already?
There is a packaged version that is trivial to install. Unfortunatly I
don't know where I got it from (probably peanuts).
Goig the CTAN route, and getting the sources shouldn't be too bad (I've
done it on my other machine - might be worth it iif you're a TeX-head),
but the package simply requires double clicking, and it works great.
$an
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Upgrading NeXTTeX to LaTeX 2e
Date: 25 Jun 1996 12:52:45 GMT
Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland
Message-ID: <4qonet$gt4@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
References: <31CF002B.30DC@boulder.colorado.edu> <DtJwry.A2x@cam-ani.co.uk>
Ian Stephenson (ians@cam-ani.co.uk) wrote:
> In article <31CF002B.30DC@boulder.colorado.edu> Adam Fedor
> <fedor@boulder.colorado.edu> writes:
> > Is there a simple way to update the NeXTTeX package (or completely
> > replace it) with version 2e of LaTeX? Has someone done this already?
> There is a packaged version that is trivial to install. Unfortunatly I
> don't know where I got it from (probably peanuts).
I got one from ftp://mathlab03.unl.edu/pub/software/NeXT/TeX. Works
right out of the box. Looking on peanuts might be a good idea, too.
I hear that switching to teTeX has some advantages, but for the
moment I'm just fine. Let's wait and see what comes with 4.0 first.
Chris
--
// Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.."
// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/
// +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: kasahara@empc4.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Katsuaki Kasahara)
Subject: Re: postscript
Message-ID: <Dt0x9t.2zK@inssun.ins.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
Sender: news@inssun.ins.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: Inst. for Nuclear Study, Univ. of Tokyo
References: <4prbfv$it9@newsser1.gmsg.ch>
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 04:17:53 GMT
In article <4prbfv$it9@newsser1.gmsg.ch> markus.rohner@gmsg.ch (Markus
Rohner) writes:
> In <4ppmkt$3oa@ra.cc.wwu.edu> hello wrote:
> > I need something to convert poscript and encapsulated postscript
files to
> > JPEG or GIF to place in my web pages - most Windows browsers don't
support
> > .ps
> >
>
> Use ImageViewer (freeware)
> It can be found on the peanuts archive.
>
A better solution is to get ToyViewer2.3. It does great things
in manipulating graphics for Web.
Check out
ftp://tuba.csedu.kobe-u.ac.jp/pub
--
K.Kasahara
Kanagawa Univ., Yokohama, Japan
e-mail: kasahara@cpnx2.b6.kanagawa-u.ac.jp
kasahara@icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp
(NEXT/MIME mail OK)
From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Upgrading NeXTTeX to LaTeX 2e
Date: 25 Jun 1996 13:26:42 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Message-ID: <4qopei$q1o@news.tamu.edu>
References: <31CF002B.30DC@boulder.colorado.edu>
In-Reply-To: <31CF002B.30DC@boulder.colorado.edu>
On 06/24/96, Adam Fedor wrote:
>Is there a simple way to update the NeXTTeX package (or completely
>replace it) with version 2e of LaTeX? Has someone done this already?
>
>--
>---
>Adam Fedor. CU, Boulder | Fudd's Law of Opposition:
>fedor@colorado.edu (MIME) | "If force doesn't work,
>adam@rmnug.org (NeXTMail) | your not using enough."
>
There is a nice LaTeX2e package at:
ftp://ftp.ens.fr/pub/dmi/users/dicosmo/SW/TeX/
installed without problems on my end.
--
Hanspeter Schaub
Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant
Aerospace Engineering Department
Texas A&M University
http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub
schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY!
-Jonathon Livingston Seagull
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: OmniPentiumPro Driver - Fast! but caused sound related crashes for me
Date: 25 Jun 1996 12:05:27 -0400
Organization: PHCS
Message-ID: <4qp2o7$fh@papoose.quick.com>
The OmniPentiumPro driver is great! 8^)
Unfortunately I cannot use it. 8^(
Configuration details.
Motherboard: Supermicro P6DNF P6 200Mhz - (Natoma chipset)
Video: Matrox MGA - 4MB
Sound: PAS16 Basic
Disk: Adaptec 2940UW
First, kudos to Omni!
Even though I cannot use it myself yet, thanks for the great driver.
The driver improves video performance dramatically on Natoma systems
(as well the Orion that Omni showed figures for on their web page).
Unfortunately, in my case it caused the sound driver to plow my
system into the dirt.
I would like to use this driver, but after testing was complete I
logged into my account and the RoosterCrow.snd played (announcing
new mail). At this point the system locked up firmly and would
only respond to a hard reset.
Without the Omni driver I can play even long sounds (several minutes)
without any problems. I would like to hear from anyone who is
using the OmniPentiumPro driver successfully, and has flawless
sound as well.
In the following tables:
'+' is with the OmniPentiumPro Driver
'-' is without it
Display: Mode selected: 1152 x 864 @ 60 Hz (RGB:256/8)
- Grafics Performance: 5.2707 (NXFactor 2.2)
+ Grafics Performance: 9.5929 (NXFactor 2.2)
Line Arc Fill Trns Comp User Text Win
- 3.48 3.39 3.80 12.61 3.43 8.67 4.64 2.15
+ 9.41 8.76 8.11 13.85 9.07 11.78 8.56 7.22
Display: Mode selected: 1152 x 864 @ 60 Hz (RGB:444/16)
- Grafics Performance: 4.1643 (NXFactor 2.2)
+ Grafics Performance: 6.2823 (NXFactor 2.2)
Line Arc Fill Trns Comp User Text Win
- 2.71 2.65 2.63 10.59 2.56 8.24 2.70 1.22
+ 6.08 5.85 4.35 11.09 4.87 10.49 3.87 3.65
Display: Mode selected: 1152 x 864 @ 60 Hz (RGB:888/32)
- Grafics Performance: 3.1284 (NXFactor 2.2)
+ Grafics Performance: 5.1005 (NXFactor 2.2)
Line Arc Fill Trns Comp User Text Win
- 1.48 1.43 1.48 9.99 1.16 6.62 2.20 0.66
+ 3.75 3.59 2.65 12.40 2.15 9.80 4.53 1.92
p.s. You may want to wear safety goggles when using this driver!
The windows slam onto the screen so fast that the CRT
might shatter. 8^)
Here's the URL for those who have not read about it yet.
http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniPentiumPro/
--
___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com
/ / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K.
\_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343
) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished.
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] Is there any speech recognition s/w for NS/Moto?
Date: 25 Jun 1996 16:56:23 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4t06h5.769.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <4qmtps$7hr@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
On 24 Jun 1996 20:28:44 GMT, David Finton <finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu> wrote:
> Is there any software that does speech recognition on black
> hardware? If so, how well does it work? Is any of it in the
> public domain?
SimonSays is available (last I heard it was commercial) and it's like all
the other speech analysis software I've seen. I wouldn't use it for
anything beyond a funny demo at a party. I certainly would not tie any
significant commands to it. It misidentified a lot of what I said and it
forces you to speak exactly the same way every time. I found it useless
unless the immediate surrounding was incredibly quiet or you wear a
mic/headphone set. I chalked it up to a joke.
--
Due to local news server and feed problems, I might not see all followups.
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Upgrading NeXTTeX to LaTeX 2e
Date: 25 Jun 1996 16:55:30 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Bits
Message-ID: <4qp5m2$noc@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
References: <31CF002B.30DC@boulder.colorado.edu> <DtJwry.A2x@cam-ani.co.uk>
Ian Stephenson (ians@cam-ani.co.uk) wrote:
:
: Goig the CTAN route, and getting the sources shouldn't be too bad (I've
: done it on my other machine - might be worth it iif you're a TeX-head),
There is really no need. Not mentioning ftp TUG (tug@tug.org,
http://www.tug.org) sells CD "TeX Live" ($40 for non-members, $20 for
members). Beyond of a pile of other goodies you will find there NeXT
MAB binaries for teTeX, corresponding TeXview and sources as well. If
you have other machines around then there is a pretty good chance that
you will find on the disk precompiled binaries as well (this includes
MS-DOS as well in addition to a number of Unix systems).
Michal
From: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Laser - Compatible Win95 driver?
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:21:38 -0700
Organization: Scott Mewett
Message-ID: <31D0C8E2.14E8@mpr.ca>
References: <4qn5th$3ht@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I was going to post the same question today.
This doesn't really help you. But there was a post a couple of days ago
where someone said that Adobe makes a driver specifically for the next
laser printer. I checked everywhere on their site and couldn't find
anything.
So now i am requesting that the person that posted that message the
other day please tell us if they know exactly where that driver is.
And please post the answer so that everyone can get it.
Thanks
Scott
James M. Bernatowicz wrote:
>
> Please forgive the cross-post. I'm not sure which category this
> question falls under.
>
> Which (if any) of the Win95 postscript drivers is compatible with
> my NeXT 400dpi laser? I've used the Apple laserwriter driver,
> genned postscript files to lpr on my 68040 slab, but some of my
> Word documents yield postscript which the NeXT laser doesn't
> swallow. I'd rather not go by trial and error if somebody already
> knows.
>
> Just to head off any confusion...
> As I understand, PMLPR and SAMBA are aids for connectivity; they
> help get the postscript across the net to the printer, right?
> My problem is generating NeXT-compatible postscript files- not
> transporting the files.
>
> Can anyone suggest one of the printer drivers on the CD or point me
> to an archive with a true NeXT driver for Win95?
>
> Many thanks!
> Jim Bernatowicz
> --
> Jim Bernatowicz an602@cleveland.freenet.edu jbernat@umcc.umich.edu KB8WYX
From: an602@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James M. Bernatowicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXT Laser - Compatible Win95 driver?
Date: 25 Jun 1996 18:56:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Message-ID: <4qpcp5$ihq@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>
References: <4qn5th$3ht@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> <31D0C8E2.14E8@mpr.ca>
In a previous article, mewett@mpr.ca (Scott Mewett) says:
>I was going to post the same question today.
>
>This doesn't really help you. But there was a post a couple of days ago
>where someone said that Adobe makes a driver specifically for the next
>laser printer. I checked everywhere on their site and couldn't find
>anything.
>
>So now i am requesting that the person that posted that message the
>other day please tell us if they know exactly where that driver is.
>
>And please post the answer so that everyone can get it.
http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/1e6.htm
Nab group6.exe
It took some digging. Their site is not the easiest to navigate.
The search button on their pages is definitely helpful!
My thanks to Mark Oliver Guentsche (M.GUENTSCHE@TBX.BerliNet.DE) who
pointed me to the Adobe site.
Jim Bernatowicz
--
Jim Bernatowicz an602@cleveland.freenet.edu jbernat@umcc.umich.edu KB8WYX
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: 24 Jun 1996 22:02:25 GMT
Organization: frazer.com
Message-ID: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net>
I'm a little surprized that no one has commented on the
4.0 release and upgrade prices.
Are all the activists academic? Everyone giving up on Openstep?
Doesn't anyone find an offer expiring on June 28 (a week to live),
with no press release or feature description anywhere, a bit
strange? Or am I the only person who's seen it?
Can anyone describe just what the new features are in:
Openstep Developer 4.0
Openstep 4.0 User
EOF 1.2
Openstep Enterprise Starter Kit Beta
and what does "maintenance on all products ..." comprise?
Free upgrades? Free tech support?
Barney
From: shivers@ai.mit.edu (Olin Shivers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS 4.0 questions
Date: 25 Jun 1996 16:06:37 -0400
Organization: Artificial Intelligence Lab, MIT
Sender: shivers@lambda.ai.mit.edu
Message-ID: <qij4tnzveb6.fsf@lambda.ai.mit.edu>
References: <qij688jv3ib.fsf@lambda.ai.mit.edu> <4qmlmn$13g@news.next.com>
In-reply-to: Mark_Bessey@next.com's message of 24 Jun 1996 18:10:31 GMT
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Date: 24 Jun 1996 18:10:31 GMT
Organization: NeXT Software, Inc.
> I'm wondering about this because having Display Postscript around is
> pretty wonderful -- but it's also a drag that one cannot then use
> other, more common screen display systems like X.
Even under NEXTSTEP, there are X server programs available...
Yes, I know about Pencom and Cub'X. I tried one about a year ago, and
was pretty dissatisfied with the results.
> I wasn't too happy with NeXT's Mach because it was not very Posix
> compliant, which is pretty lame. The ability to purchase OpenStep for
> linux or FreeBSD would mean the ability to get commercial-quality
> productivity apps for these OS's, which would make them very slick.
I'm not sure how the availability of OPENSTEP would necessarily lead to
better productivity applications on Linux.
Presumably companies writing OPENSTEP productivity apps could compile and
sell them for Linux or *BSD. Or am I missing something here?
-Olin
From: diego@conga.super.unam.mx (Diego Zamboni)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Widescreen not supporting slippery dock anymore?
Date: 25 Jun 1996 20:54:20 GMT
Organization: Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico
Message-ID: <4qpjls$554@hp.fciencias.unam.mx>
Hi:
Sorry for posting this to the group, but I couldn't find the author of the
package (his address doesn't exist anymore).
I have been using Widescreen 0.5 for some time now, with the patches by Larry
Roberts, on my Sparcstation 5 running NS3.3. It had been running beautifully.
However, yesterday something strange happened. After a system crash (not a
very serious one, the system recovered without a problem), Widescreen
suddenly stopped handling the dock in slippery mode (this is, not showing it
in all the virtual screens), that is how I had it configured.
The configuration is correct in Preferences, and I already tried modifying it
by hand with dwrite. I even tried recompiling it, but nothing seems to help.
The dock is permanently in "sticky" mode, and follows me wherever I go
(inside my virtual screen, at least :-) ). And it doesn't show in the
Widescreen window.
Has anybody else had this problem? Does anybody have a clue as to what may be
happening?
Thanks a lot, and best regards.
--
Diego Martin Zamboni Jefe del Area de Seguridad en C'omputo
diego@conga.super.unam.mx DGSCA, UNAM, Mexico. Tel. (52-5)622-81-69
(NeXTMail ok) Fax. (52-5)622-80-43
WWW home page: http://ds5000.super.unam.mx/~diego/
PGP key: finger diego@conga.super.unam.mx
From: rragner@panther.vm.iastate.edu (Rod Ragner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: 25 Jun 1996 21:38:40 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Message-ID: <4qpm90$ink@news.iastate.edu>
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net>
In article <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> jbf@frazer.com (James B.
Frazer) writes:
> I'm a little surprized that no one has commented on the
> 4.0 release and upgrade prices.
> ...[stuff deleted]...
> Barney
Well, anyone with the OS Beta is under a non-disclosure agreement. Even
if they wanted to tell you they should not...
NeXT will be releasing the product in approximately 5 days. I suggest
that you exercise a tiny amount of patience.
--
Rod Ragner, UNIX Systems Administrator/NEXTSTEP Application Developer
Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine,
Iowa State University, 2630 Vet. Med. Bldg., Ames, Iowa 50011
Voice: (515) 294-1727, FAX: (515) 294-6961 or 3564, (NeXT Mail accepted)
Email: rragner@@iastate.edu
From: nick@bcog.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I don't like mail.app
Date: 25 Jun 1996 21:51:46 GMT
Organization: Cyberstore Systems Inc.
Message-ID: <4qpn1i$g1v@scipio.cyberstore.ca>
References: <4qmhqv$954@neon.Mlink.NET> <31CF42DC.29C0@soli.inav.net>
Cc: marks@soli.inav.net
In <31CF42DC.29C0@soli.inav.net> Mark Strand wrote:
> bettez@oopst.com wrote:
> >
> > I need automatic mail filtering and drag&drop support!
> > Can I have a (graphical) alternative?
> > __________________________________________
> > Jean-Sebatien Bettez
> > bettez@oopst.com
>
>
> One out of two ain't bad! 8-)
>
How about Eloquent.app ?
From: allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan MacKinnon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: 25 Jun 1996 23:48:55 GMT
Organization: Channel 1 Communications
Message-ID: <4qptt7$1qs@news1.channel1.com>
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net>
Cc: jbf@frazer.com
In <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> James B. Frazer wrote:
> I'm a little surprized that no one has commented on the
> 4.0 release and upgrade prices.
>
> Are all the activists academic? Everyone giving up on Openstep?
>
> Doesn't anyone find an offer expiring on June 28 (a week to live),
> with no press release or feature description anywhere, a bit
> strange? Or am I the only person who's seen it?
>
Where did you see this? I didn't see it
on the NeXT WWW site...
ASM
--
Allan MacKinnon
allanmac@blueprint.com Boston, MA
NeXT / MIME Mail Welcome (617) 424-0615
From: Luke Howard <Luke_Howard@schools.net.au>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:12:02 +1100
Organization: schoolsNET Pty Ltd
Message-ID: <31D08052.648A@schools.net.au>
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net>
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To: "James B. Frazer" <jbf@frazer.com>
CC: lukeh@vurt.schnet.edu.au
James B. Frazer wrote:
> Doesn't anyone find an offer expiring on June 28 (a week to live),
> with no press release or feature description anywhere, a bit
> strange? Or am I the only person who's seen it?
I've seen the promotional bundle offer.
> Can anyone describe just what the new features are in:
>
> Openstep Developer 4.0
Well, it's pretty obvious to speculate that it's an Openstep-compatible
development environment, instead of the old Appkit/little Foundation
environment. A also recall a posting in this newsgroup saying
that lookupd had been rewritten for 4.0.
> Openstep 4.0 User
> EOF 1.2
> Openstep Enterprise Starter Kit Beta
Well, the beta/gamma sites are probably still under non-disclosure,
so I guess you'll have to wait until it ships. But it's not
vapourware.
More details later...
-- Luke
From: anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: 26 Jun 1996 01:46:20 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Linguistics, Yale University
Message-ID: <ANDERSON.96Jun25214620@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net>
In-reply-to: jbf@frazer.com's message of 24 Jun 1996 22:02:25 GMT
>>>>> "James" == James B Frazer <jbf@frazer.com> writes:
In article <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) writes:
James> I'm a little surprized that no one has commented on the 4.0
James> release and upgrade prices.
James> Are all the activists academic? Everyone giving up on
James> Openstep?
James> Doesn't anyone find an offer expiring on June 28 (a week to
James> live), with no press release or feature description anywhere,
James> a bit strange? Or am I the only person who's seen it?
James> Can anyone describe just what the new features are in:
James> Openstep Developer 4.0 Openstep 4.0 User EOF 1.2 Openstep
James> Enterprise Starter Kit Beta
James> and what does "maintenance on all products ..." comprise? Free
James> upgrades? Free tech support?
James> Barney
What? 4.0 is released? Where? When? How?
--Steve Anderson
From: anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Strange Configure.app problem
Date: 26 Jun 1996 01:55:29 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Linguistics, Yale University
Message-ID: <ANDERSON.96Jun25215529@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
I've been trying to get my Journey (Twinhead) notebook to work with
its PCMCIA modem card and Xircom ethernet card. After a great deal of
trouble and help from others, I got it to the point where it
recognized both cards at boot and appeared to cofigure itself
properly.
So I set to work on the next problem: setting up two possible instance
tables for booting, with and without SCSI support. I went to
/private/Drivers/i386/System.config and copied Instance0.table in
preparation for setting up another configuration with SCSI support.
When I opened Configure.app, though, I discovered that the drivers it
displayed bore no relation to those that had actually been installed
at boot time. Instead, Configure.app appears to display the drivers
that would have been installed if I had booted with config=Default
(i.e., those of ../System.config/Default.table).
This state persists through several cold boots: Configure.app displays
an entirely incorrect set of drivers (and thus doesn't let me modify
the set of drivers that are actually used at boot time) although the
boot sequence proceeds normally.
What's up? And more importantly (who wants knowledge for its own
sake?), how can I fix it?
--Steve Anderson
Dept. of Linguistics
Yale University
From: dayne@wolfenet.com (Dayne Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Shooting oneself in the foot...
Date: 26 Jun 1996 03:25:30 GMT
Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C.
Message-ID: <4qqaja$7ll@ratty.wolfe.net>
[Setting: Midday. A typical corporate office environment. Our Hero, an
Average Consumer in the high-tech industry, in a moment of curiosity, picks
up the phone and dials. A voice answers.]
Voice: Hello. NeXT Software. What can I do for you today?
Our Hero: Hi. I was calling to check on OpenStep for Mach availability and
pricing.
Voice: Sure. That'll be available on the 27th -- this Thursday. Are you
upgrading 3.3 Developer?
Our Hero: Actually, I don't have the development environment. I'm a
registered user of NEXTSTEP User 3.3 and wanted to upgrade.
Voice: Oh. You know, that won't really do anything for you. From a user
perspective, there's really no reason to upgrade. As I understand it, that's
how this is being positioned.
Our Hero [incredulously]: Really??
Voice: If you want it anyway, the price is $199.
Our Hero: How about OpenStep for NT? Not as an upgrade to NEXTSTEP -- I'd be
interested in the full version. Has the price been set yet?
Voice: That will be $499.
Our Hero: Thanks for your help. I'll call back on Thursday.
############
Now, this *really* happened. [Caveat: I *may* be misquoting the $499 OpenStep
for NT price -- I honestly can't say now if it was $499 or $399 -- sorry for
that ambiguity. I was thinking more about the Mach version at the time.]
The phone rep was helpful and friendly, but I ask: Can any company really
hope to succeed when *any* product gets respose like that? Here I was,
plastic in hand ready to shell out upgrade $$$, and I'm told that *it won't
do anything for me, there's no reason to upgrade*!!!
Of course, being a sucker, I'll do it anyway. Always have to have the latest
[and presumably greatest...] The QuickTime support, built-in PPP and a few
other features make it worthwhile to me over the life of the product; I also
want to make sure of maximum driver availability. But think about Jane or Joe
Corporate (or even Ms. or Mr. Consumer).
And half a grand for the NT runtime? I'll pass, thanks.
-Dayne Miller
dayne@wolfenet.com
From: Jacob Nielsen <jacob@dannug.dk>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I don't like mail.app
Date: 25 Jun 1996 20:46:46 GMT
Organization: Danish NeXT User Group
Message-ID: <4qpj7m$sk@jnext.dannug.dk>
References: <4qmhqv$954@neon.Mlink.NET>
bettez@oopst.com wrote:
> I need automatic mail filtering and drag&drop support!
> Can I have a (graphical) alternative?
Eloquent.app from Take3. You can reach them at:
eloquent_info@take3.com
Last I checked it was:
$175 for a single licence.
$50 for user groups and educational users
Volume discounts for 10 or more copies.
It works like a charm for me, filtering email into different
mailfolders, reading ASCII, MIME, NeXTMail and SunMail (untested
by me).
There's even a *fully* functional demo on the archives. Go check
it out!
Jacob
--
Jacob Nielsen
Maintainer of NEXTSTEP Software Reviews http://www.dannug.dk/jacob
& My own home page :-) http://www.dannug.dk/~jacob
NeXTMail, MIMEMail and SUNMail jacob@dannug.dk
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: I don't like mail.app
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:21:09 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960625080811.5420A-100000@charisma>
References: <4qmhqv$954@neon.Mlink.NET> <31CF42DC.29C0@soli.inav.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: bettez@oopst.com
In-Reply-To: <31CF42DC.29C0@soli.inav.net>
WHAT? How can you not like Mail.app? Have you used a lot of Mail.apps?
I haven't but the ones I have seen suck like a bullet hole through a plane
window at 40,000 feet.
Mail.app can drop& drop, so I have no idea what the problem is there.
Click-drag in, click-drag out.
As far as filtering, you can get that other Mail.app that does it (starts
with an E... Eloquent...
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/mail/Eloquent.2.01.NIHS.tar.gz
That's the more expensive option, the cheaper option would be to get:
ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.depub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz
(size: 162488)
compile it, and learn how to use it with Carl Edman's:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/mail/mailapp-utilities.1.5.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/mail/mailapp-utilities.1.5.README
which will make procmail work FLAWLESSLY with Mail.app's mailboxes.
Mail.app is one of my favorite parts of NeXTStep.... work with another
Mail.app for awhile (like "ExpressIT" on Novell) and you'll realize how
good it is compared with what's out there.... We take too much for
granted....
TjL, recently back online with PPP and can use Mail.app for the first time
in months...
--
Timothy J. Luoma, currently with nothing witty to put in his .sig
luomat@nerc.com <<--NEW address
NeXTMail adored (SUN/MIME OK!)
Watch this space for my WEBPAGE, coming soon!
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] Is there any speech recognition s/w for NS/Moto?
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:01:02 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960625075952.5354B-100000@charisma>
References: <4qmtps$7hr@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: David Finton <finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4qmtps$7hr@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/announcements/SimonSaysDemo_README
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/announcements/SimonSaysReview.ps.Z
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/announcements/SimonSaysReview.txt.Z
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/announcements/SimonSaysReview.wn.tar.Z
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/announcements/SimonSaysReview.wn.tar.Z.README
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/games/SimonSaysDemo1.5.1.README.rtf
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/games/SimonSaysDemo1.5.1.compressed
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/games/SimonSaysDemo1.5.1.README.rtf
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/games/SimonSaysDemo1.5.1.compressed
Don't know why it is in the 'games' folder.
Can test it for 30 min per launch, and only set some voice commands.
Take it for a test drive....
TjL
--
Timothy J. Luoma, currently with nothing witty to put in his .sig
luomat@nerc.com <<--NEW address
NeXTMail adored (SUN/MIME OK!)
Watch this space for my WEBPAGE, coming soon!
From: rwakeman: rwakeman@thoughtport.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP:Need Mac 7.5 Print Driver for NeXT laser printer
Date: 26 Jun 1996 11:46:20 GMT
Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc.
Message-ID: <4qr7uc$s4k@chinx4.thoughtport.net>
References: <4qfe4e$efr@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com> <joel-2406960948140001@asteroid08.threedi.com>
In-Reply-To: <joel-2406960948140001@asteroid08.threedi.com>
On 06/24/96, Joel Lingenfelter wrote:
>>Anyone know where I can get a Mac (OS 7.5.2) printer driver (i.e., a
>>chooser extension) which will drive a NeXT laser printer!? No luck
in
>>the Mac archives I've searched. Thanks much for any help!
Daydream comes with a special printer driver that prints Mac os from
Black hardware. However, you need to be running Daydream (hal software
with the Apple rom chip via the dsp port) to do so.
Robert Wakeman
rwakeman@thoughtport.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: bettez@telecom.hydro.qc.ca
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Message-ID: <DtLzw2.JwK@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>
Sender: news@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Netnews Admin)
Organization: Hydro-Quebec, Montreal, Canada
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> <ANDERSON.96Jun25214620@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:24:02 GMT
Frazer) writes:
>
>
> James> I'm a little surprized that no one has commented on the 4.0
> James> release and upgrade prices.
>
> James> Are all the activists academic? Everyone giving up on
> James> Openstep?
>
> James> Doesn't anyone find an offer expiring on June 28 (a week to
> James> live), with no press release or feature description anywhere,
> James> a bit strange? Or am I the only person who's seen it?
>
> James> Can anyone describe just what the new features are in:
>
> James> Openstep Developer 4.0 Openstep 4.0 User EOF 1.2 Openstep
> James> Enterprise Starter Kit Beta
>
> James> and what does "maintenance on all products ..." comprise? Free
> James> upgrades? Free tech support?
>
> James> Barney
>
>What? 4.0 is released? Where? When? How?
>
I received this email yesterday from Andy Creach <Andy_Creach@next.com>:
All,
The OpenStep upgrade promotion IS HERE!!
Promotional Bundle
offered only until June 28, 1996
$1,999
($12,095 value, no additional discounts)
Who is eligible? Any customer who has a developer's license (need
SERIAL # of existing software).
Upgrade Bundle includes:
Openstep Developer 4.0 for Mach
Openstep Developer 4.0 for NT
Openstep 4.0 user for both Mach & NT
EOF 1.2 (Mach & NT)
Free Openstep Enterprise Starter Kit Beta
Maintenance for one year
Still don't see anything on www.next.com or in comp.sys.next.announce.
scary, isn't it?
From: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: Setting the default paper-size in NeXTStep 3.0
Date: 26 Jun 1996 16:28:30 GMT
Organization: Instituto Canario de Investigaciones Agrarias -ICIA
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4qrofe$leq@sinfo.ll.iac.es>
References: <4qb27p$16nq@alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> <IC9sGDABWcyxEwsU@cedar.co.uk>
Cc: phef@cedar.co.uk
In <IC9sGDABWcyxEwsU@cedar.co.uk> Paul Heffernan wrote:
> In article <4qb27p$16nq@alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>, Peter Pregler
> <Peter.Pregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at> writes
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I would like to configure the default paper-size setup for all accounts
> >on the NeXTStep 3.0 system. Currently, it is set to letter-size but we
> >here in Austria use A4 as the default size. One can change the
> >page-layout in certain applications (under format->page-layout) but
> >there are two problems with this:
> >
> >1) One has to set it in all user-applications.
> >2) It is not saved over sessions.
> >
> >I had a look at what defaults are set via 'dwrite' and I cannot find any
> >setting that is related to paper-size. Has anyone done this before?
> Try dwrite -g NXPaperType A4
I tried this but it does not work for WordPerfect. I still have to reset the
paper type to A4 every time. Boy is that boring !
Rafa
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| INSTITUTO CANARIO DE INVESTIGACIONES AGRARIAS - ICIA |
| Apdo. 60 - Laguna, 38200 Tenerife (Spain) |
|Tno:+34-22-476343;Fax:+34-22-476303;e-mail:carpena@icia.rcanaria.es|
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From: kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca (Alan Kelm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: FAT binaries under NS 2.1?
Date: 26 Jun 1996 15:05:15 GMT
Organization: University of Ottawa
Message-ID: <4qrjjb$mro@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I've downloaded several binaries from peanuts.leo.org, in the hope of running
them on this Next machine (m68k with NextStep 2.1 operating system).
Nothing runs. Instead I get messages like:
syntax error at line 2: ')' unexpected
It seems that the binary format is not recognized by my machine. Am I
overlooking something, or am I limited to only very old binaries?
Any hints would be appreciated, since I am quite new to NeXT.
-Alan Kelm
--
: Alan Kelm kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca :
: Unix system technical support (613) 562-5800 ext 3527 :
: Department of Mathematics and Statistics, University of Ottawa, Canada. :
From: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: g77 for black NS3.0 User&Dev.
Date: 26 Jun 1996 16:47:58 GMT
Organization: Instituto Canario de Investigaciones Agrarias -ICIA
Message-ID: <4qrpju$leq@sinfo.ll.iac.es>
Hello!,
Could anybody provide me with the binaries for g77 that would work on black
NS3.0 User&Dev.
Thanks,
Rafa
--
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| Rafael Munoz-Carpena, Ph.D., Researcher, Soil & Water Department |
| INSTITUTO CANARIO DE INVESTIGACIONES AGRARIAS - ICIA |
| Apdo. 60 - Laguna, 38200 Tenerife (Spain) |
|Tno:+34-22-476343;Fax:+34-22-476303;e-mail:carpena@icia.rcanaria.es|
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: american@internetMCI.COM (Charles C. Hocker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: OmniPentiumPro Driver - Fast! but caused sound related crashes for me
Date: 26 Jun 1996 17:49:28 GMT
Organization: TDS Telecom - Madison, WI
Message-ID: <4qrt78$k0i@news2.tds.net>
References: <4qp2o7$fh@papoose.quick.com>
In-Reply-To: <4qp2o7$fh@papoose.quick.com>
On 06/25/96, James E. Quick wrote:
>I would like to use this driver, but after testing was complete I
>logged into my account and the RoosterCrow.snd played (announcing
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>new mail). At this point the system locked up firmly and would
>only respond to a hard reset.
If it were up to me, I would have lightning fast video speed and serve
chicken for dinner tonight...8^)
--
Charles C. Hocker american@internetMCI.COM
ASCII, MIME & NeXTmail (preferred) american@aztec.asu.edu
"Food is Power. We use it to change behavior. Some May Call that
Bribery. We Do Not Apologize."
Catherine Bertini, executive director, UN World Food Program,
Beijing, China, UN 4th World Conference on Women, Sept. 1995.
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Loadable device driver for Virtual IP hosting (Multi-homing)
Date: 26 Jun 1996 20:22:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <4qs65d$kke@agate.berkeley.edu>
For those of you who do not pay attention to fj.sys.next (that
probably means most of you), I just want to point out that you might
find a piece sofware announced in that group useful.
Hideo Morishita <manmos@stellar.co.jp > has written a NeXT Mach
loadable device driver for virtual hosting multiple IP addresses
on a single NEXTSTEP host.
The driver allows you to use Web server software such as NCSA httpd 1.5
(and later), and Apache httpd with the virtual hosting enabled.
While this has been possible by using a loadable driver for PPP, the
new driver has been written specifically for this purpose without the code
for PPP, and therefore is very small (less potential for bugs).
The source and binary (quad-fat) have been posted in fj.sources.
Here's the posting data for the article:
Newsgroups: fj.sources
From: manmos@stellar.co.jp (Hideo "Sir MaNMOS" Morishita)
Subject: Pseudo network interface driver(1/1)
Supersede: <MANMOS.96Jun25170440@antares.stellar.co.jp>
Message-ID: <MANMOS.96Jun25174855@antares.stellar.co.jp>
Organization: Stellar Craft Inc., Osaka, Japan
Distribution: fj
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 08:48:55 GMT
Lines: 428
It is also available as:
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/ps_if.NIHS.bs.tar.gz
I have no idea how well this driver works.
Izumi
From: allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan MacKinnon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: 26 Jun 1996 18:34:39 GMT
Organization: Channel 1 Communications
Message-ID: <4qrvrv$7ta@news1.channel1.com>
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> <ANDERSON.96Jun25214620@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
<DtLzw2.JwK@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>
Cc: bettez@telecom.hydro.qc.ca
> The OpenStep upgrade promotion IS HERE!!
>
> Promotional Bundle
> offered only until June 28, 1996
> $1,999
> ($12,095 value, no additional discounts)
>
> Who is eligible? Any customer who has a developer's license (need
> SERIAL # of existing software).
>
> Upgrade Bundle includes:
>
> Openstep Developer 4.0 for Mach
> Openstep Developer 4.0 for NT
> Openstep 4.0 user for both Mach & NT
> EOF 1.2 (Mach & NT)
> Free Openstep Enterprise Starter Kit Beta
> Maintenance for one year
>
> Still don't see anything on www.next.com or in comp.sys.next.announce.
>
> scary, isn't it?
>
What the heck? I've been registered User+Dev for at least
a year and I haven't heard JACK!
So, I have to hear about it through netnews?
Lameness incarnate.
ASM
--
Allan MacKinnon
allanmac@blueprint.com Boston, MA
NeXT / MIME Mail Welcome (617) 424-0615
From: johna@mcs.net (John Anfuso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: ncftp -- 2.30 precompiled -- can anyone use it?
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 00:03:06 GMT
Organization: MCSNet Internet Services
Message-ID: <31d1cefb.311399803@news.mcs.net>
References: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960620040423.2473A-100000@charisma>
On Thu, 20 Jun 1996 04:05:00 -0400, "Timothy J. Luoma"
<luomat@nerc.com> wrote:
>WARNING: could not determine full host name (have: 'charisma').
>The program should be re-compiled with DOMAINNAME defined to be the
>domain name, i.e. -DDOMAINNAME=\"unl.edu\"
I run the domainname command at boot up to stop that message.
I think the readme mentions a compile time option to disable the
message, for those who like graceful solutions.
>
>Error: Unrecognized preference option "maxhosts".
>"/etc/termcap", line 1205: terminal 'M1', slashes aren't allowed in
>names or aliases
You know, I went through termcap and removed the slashes.
Works fine now.
John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans)
Subject: Re: FAT binaries under NS 2.1?
Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News)
Message-ID: <DtMIB5.K8x@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:01:52 GMT
References: <4qrjjb$mro@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>
Organization: University of Waterloo
In article <4qrjjb$mro@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>,
Alan Kelm <kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca> wrote:
>I've downloaded several binaries from peanuts.leo.org, in the hope of running
>them on this Next machine (m68k with NextStep 2.1 operating system).
>Nothing runs. Instead I get messages like:
>
> syntax error at line 2: ')' unexpected
>
>It seems that the binary format is not recognized by my machine. Am I
>overlooking something, or am I limited to only very old binaries?
>Any hints would be appreciated, since I am quite new to NeXT.
>
FAT binaries were not supported until 3.1. I'd say you're pretty limited
under 2.1.
--
David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/
University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer
Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: wln@tla.org (W Lee Nussbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: 27 Jun 1996 01:58:01 GMT
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Message-ID: <4qspr9$fkv@webprod2.lehman.com>
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> <ANDERSON.96Jun25214620@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
<DtLzw2.JwK@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>
Cc: bettez@telecom.hydro.qc.ca
> Upgrade Bundle includes:
...
> Still don't see anything on www.next.com or in comp.sys.next.announce.
>
> scary, isn't it?
NeXT's Order Line reported today that they *expect* that the bundle will be
extended thru mid-July. Probably when NeXT actually bothers to announce the
4.0 stuff...
- Lee
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
Return-Path: <bjarni@fiton.is>
Message-ID: <199606270353.DAA02112@next.fiton.is>
Content-Type: text/plain
Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2)
From: Bjarni Thor Juliusson <bjarni@fiton.is>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 03:53:27 GMT
Subject: Animation in OmniWeb
Has any one managed to get animation in OmniWeb, like animated GlF89?
Bye
Bjarni
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: 27 Jun 1996 05:43:35 GMT
Organization: frazer.com
Message-ID: <jbf-2706960143430001@news.tiac.net>
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> <ANDERSON.96Jun25214620@sapir.ling.yale.edu> <DtLzw2.JwK@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> <4qrvrv$7ta@news1.channel1.com>
In article <4qrvrv$7ta@news1.channel1.com>, allanmac@blueprint.com (Allan
MacKinnon) wrote:
> What the heck? I've been registered User+Dev for at least
> a year and I haven't heard JACK!
>
> So, I have to hear about it through netnews?
>
> Lameness incarnate.
Direct complaints to
Dave McKenna NeXT Software - 617-292-6295
who emailed the notice to some of us a few days ago. God knows
how they made the list up. They left Greg Anderson off, who's one
of perhaps 5 real (sell to the rest of us for a living) developers
left.
The "stealth" marketing campaign. They had a drop dead offer like
this for 3.3, and I bought in. Wish I hadn't now (one useless
developer package too many). Nobody seems to think there's enough
value in 4.0 for the price (even Dave McK recommended against it
for "most black users"). And as Greg posted, the run time costs are
too high for the non-custom-app users he sells to.
A sad end for a great product.
Barney
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: 27 Jun 1996 08:45:15 GMT
Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd.
Message-ID: <4qthmr$eqc@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> <ANDERSON.96Jun25214620@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
<DtLzw2.JwK@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> <4qrvrv$7ta@news1.channel1.com>
<jbf-2706960143430001@news.tiac.net>
Cc: jbf@frazer.com
In <jbf-2706960143430001@news.tiac.net> James B. Frazer wrote:
> who emailed the notice to some of us a few days ago. God knows
> how they made the list up. They left Greg Anderson off, who's one
> of perhaps 5 real (sell to the rest of us for a living) developers
> left.
I don't know of anyone else who received the offer.
> The "stealth" marketing campaign. They had a drop dead offer like
> this for 3.3, and I bought in.
That's OK, we weren't sent details of that offer either :-).
> A sad end for a great product.
It's the people, or the culture or something. I haven't ever seen such
amazingly suicidal behaviour, ever. In fact, I have a great example of
this that I'll report here later. Whoever has been copying my posts to
advocacy and forwarding them to a NeXT sales people list with instructions
to not deal with me, you might want to take note.
Paul
--
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Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems
Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FAT binaries under NS 2.1?
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 23:26:01 -0400
Organization: Princeton University
Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960626232414.2788A-100000@charisma>
References: <4qrjjb$mro@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca> <DtMIB5.K8x@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
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On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, David Evans wrote:
> In article <4qrjjb$mro@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>,
> Alan Kelm <kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca> wrote:
> >I've downloaded several binaries from peanuts.leo.org, in the hope of running
> >them on this Next machine (m68k with NextStep 2.1 operating system).
> >Nothing runs. Instead I get messages like:
> >
> > syntax error at line 2: ')' unexpected
> >
> >It seems that the binary format is not recognized by my machine. Am I
> >overlooking something, or am I limited to only very old binaries?
> >Any hints would be appreciated, since I am quite new to NeXT.
> >
>
> FAT binaries were not supported until 3.1. I'd say you're pretty limited
> under 2.1.
>
That may be true, but there's no reason why you can try one of the new
lipo's:
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/admin/qlipo.1.1.s.tar.gz
ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/util/plipo.tar.gz
Or see if you can't get lipo from someone with a version from 3..3
TjL
--
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luomat@nerc.com <<--NEW address
NeXTMail adored (SUN/MIME OK!)
Watch this space for my WEBPAGE, coming soon!
From: ts110@pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS4.0 & PPP
Date: 27 Jun 1996 09:51:13 GMT
Organization: Cambridge University, Pure Mathematics and Mathematical Statistics
Message-ID: <4qtlih$rl6@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk>
References: <4qc0k3$34j@info.itsq8.com> <4qn1eu$jhs@news.cmg.fcnbd.com>
: : Is PPP built in NS4.0?
: It is as of the 4.0 Gamma release.
Is there a programmer interface (which allows one to check, for example,
if the connection is established or not)?
Tomaz Slivnik
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FAT binaries under NS 2.1?
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 10:00:02 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd
Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk
Message-ID: <DtnL43.3uH@cam-ani.co.uk>
References: <DtMIB5.K8x@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
In article <DtMIB5.K8x@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca
(David Evans) writes:
> FAT binaries were not supported until 3.1.
3.0 can run FAT binaries provided that 68K is the first architecture in
the file. This is(was) the default.
> I'd say you're pretty limited
> under 2.1.
Yep...
$an
From: John A. Maier <johnam@beta.datastorm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: gcc for NeXT! (sort of)
Date: 27 Jun 1996 15:14:39 GMT
Organization: Datastorm
Message-ID: <4qu8h0$mjq@beta.datastorm.com>
References: <4qs7u0$c77@beta.datastorm.com>
I download the following files off of peak and installed them:
as-1.38.NIH.b.tar.gz
cc-NeXT.2.5.8.NIH.ba.tar.gz
gdb-4.7.NIH.b.tar.gz
gnumake-3.74.b.SHIN.tar.gz
libg++_for_3.2.NIH.ba.tar.gz
I can start a compile, cc launchs as and then as wants ld (i386 3.3 version).
Boom!
So how do I get ld?
jam
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: 27 Jun 1996 16:45:32 GMT
Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA
Message-ID: <4qudrc$5h8@news3.digex.net>
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> <ANDERSON.96Jun25214620@sapir.ling.yale.edu> <DtLzw2.JwK@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> <4qrvrv$7ta@news1.channel1.com> <jbf-2706960143430001@news.tiac.net> <4qthmr$eqc@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) wrote:
> I don't know of anyone else who received the offer.
Just to chime in, I got the offer...
--
Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^)
monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School
NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only
MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: mikef@kennedy.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael Kieran Fleming)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Help: Crash recovery on Intel from 8mm
Date: 27 Jun 1996 17:17:08 GMT
Organization: Purdue University
Message-ID: <4qufmk$2bk@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>
Last week, I had the unfortunate opportunity to experiance
a hard drive crash. Not so bad in and of itself--I had
a full "gnutar /" of the drive, since I was expecting it to
go. The problem: it was my boot drive.
Not so bad either. I could just re-install the OS on a new
drive, boot, and untar. Then I realized that I had grabbed
my 3.2 install CD's instead of my 3.3 install CD's when I
had left for the summer. Not so bad--I've got the whole
install on tape, right?
So anyway, I untar the tape onto the drive in single-user
mode and I reboot. But I can't reboot--the boot program
complains that it can't find the System.config directory in
the Devices directory. So I go through the whole thing
again, this time making very sure that
/usr/Devices/System.config (or whatever) exists. Still,
the same problem.
What's the magic here? What is keeping me from "upgrading" a
3.2 install to a 3.3 install by pulling it off of tape?
I'm not reading my news over the summer, so please respond
in email...
Mike Fleming
mikef@ecn.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars Andreas Stole)
Subject: 2-up printing of dvi files?
Message-ID: <Dto3Ln.C6G@midway.uchicago.edu>
Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator)
Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 16:39:22 GMT
Is there an easy way to print 2 or more pages of a *.dvi file on the same
page. TeXview doesn't have a print-format option; Preview does, but it
doesn't appear to work with postscript files generated by dvips.
The only way I have been able to do this is to import the postscript file
(from dvips) into Tailor (a wonderful application!) and then print-format
2-up from there. This takes a very long time to do and lots of disk space.
Is there a simpler way?
--
Lars A. Stole
Graduate School of Business
University of Chicago
1101 E. 58th Street
Chicago, IL 60637
U.S.A.
From: Tomaz Sustar <tomaz.sustar@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Help: Setting the default paper-size in NeXTStep 3.0
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:03:58 +0200
Organization: Komunikacijsko Informacijski Servis SOU - KISS
Message-ID: <31C93E2E.26D7@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si>
References: <4qb27p$16nq@alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>
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Peter Pregler wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to configure the default paper-size setup for all accounts
> on the NeXTStep 3.0 system. Currently, it is set to letter-size but we
> here in Austria use A4 as the default size. One can change the
> page-layout in certain applications (under format->page-layout) but
> there are two problems with this:
>
> 1) One has to set it in all user-applications.
> 2) It is not saved over sessions.
>
> I had a look at what defaults are set via 'dwrite' and I cannot find any
> setting that is related to paper-size. Has anyone done this before?
>
> Thanx, Peter.
>
> -------------------------------
> Email: Peter.Pregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at
> WWW: http://www.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/people/ppregler
I think there is an Preference bundle on Penuts archive site which
handles your problem. Sorry but I don't remeber the name :(((
Hope it helps
--
Tomaz
===============================================
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Private : Tomaz.Sustar@net.zaslon.si
Work : tomaz.sustar@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: [Q] Looking for a PS viewer which reliably reads MS Word's PS
Date: 27 Jun 1996 19:55:53 GMT
Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Message-ID: <4qup09$g1@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
I love my NeXT for downloading PostScript research papers from the net!
But I often download papers which NEXTSTEP labels "PS?" and which
I sometimes can't read at all. For some reason, these files usually
have the words "Microsoft Word" in the PS header!
I've found that ghostview (which we have on our ---ugh!--- DecStations)
can usually make sense of these files. YAP usually doesn't. So:
I'm wondering if there's a public domain PS viewer for the NeXT which
is more tolerant of Microsoft's buggy PostScript. Is there a version
of ghostview which runs on the NeXT, without X?
Thanks in advance,
David Finton
finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: "Andrew M. Priasmoro" <ampriasm@students.wisc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Sound Blaster 16 Problem.
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:49:06 -0500
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Message-ID: <31D2F3C2.3AA7@students.wisc.edu>
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Hello,
I have a sound blaster 16 (not plug and play), it did not give problems
when I played my CD ROM music. But, when it played sound files (au,
snd, etc) sometimes it played the sound and sometimes it did not.
Does anyone have any pointers or solutions to fix this problem? Is this
a bug from the sound blaster 16 driver? I use the driver I obtained
from NeXT Answer and I believe it's the recent driver released by NeXT.
Andrew.
From: charlesa@netventures.co.uk (Charles Ashley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Java VM in NS/OS?
Date: 27 Jun 1996 21:06:41 GMT
Organization: MatriX Publishing Network
Message-ID: <4qut51$59v@nebula.mpn.com>
Hi -
Does anyone know of NeXTSTEP's plans for a Java virtual machine? In NS
4.0 perhaps?
Regards,
C.
=========================================================================
Charles Ashley charlesa@netventures.co.uk tel.+44.171.603.1267
=========================================================================
From: Yuwen Cheng <yucheng@math.arizona.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 2-up printing of dvi files?
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:27:40 -0700
Organization: University of Arizona, Mathematics
Message-ID: <31D2FCCC.55D3@math.arizona.edu>
References: <Dto3Ln.C6G@midway.uchicago.edu>
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Lars Andreas Stole wrote:
>
> Is there an easy way to print 2 or more pages of a *.dvi file on the same
> page. TeXview doesn't have a print-format option; Preview does, but it
> doesn't appear to work with postscript files generated by dvips.
>
> The only way I have been able to do this is to import the postscript file
> (from dvips) into Tailor (a wonderful application!) and then print-format
> 2-up from there. This takes a very long time to do and lots of disk space.
> Is there a simpler way?
>
The simplest way, as I know, is to use /usr/bin/psnup.
dvips -D resolution -Z -f < file.dvi | psnup -r -n2 -o file.ps
Or you can choose Print->Save in TeXView and apply psnup on the output
postscript file. For detail, see the man page of psnup.
--
----------------
Yuwen Cheng
University of Arizona, Math
yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 05:12:36 -0700
Organization: Scott Mewett
Message-ID: <31D3CC34.41E6@mpr.ca>
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> <ANDERSON.96Jun25214620@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
<DtLzw2.JwK@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> <4qrvrv$7ta@news1.channel1.com>
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I talked to NeXT sales today an they said that we should see something
on their web page on friday (which happens to be the last business day
of Q2) The pricing that I was given is the same that was posted here.
Also I asked regarding NeXT apparel and they said that they would be
opening a NeXTMaRT ;-) for selling NeXT stuff (ie. t-shirts) on the
internet. This would be in the coming months probably in the hot news
section.
Scott
From: Jeff Bakst <jbakst@flinet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: HELP:Need Mac 7.5 Print Driver for NeXT laser printer
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 20:15:06 -0400
Organization: Gargoyle Studios
Message-ID: <31D3240A.4E74@flinet.com>
References: <4qfe4e$efr@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com> <joel-2406960948140001@asteroid08.threedi.com>
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Joel Lingenfelter wrote:
>
> So far, I've never seen anyone get a NeXT laser printer to work outside of
> a NeXT. You can sometimes use the NeXT as a print spooler, but you have to
> print to a postscript file and then ftp it over. A royal pain.
>
> It's the main reason I didn't purchase the NeXT printer.
>
> If I'm wrong, I'd love to know.
>
That is odd...I have a cube on our LAN...with NT/W95 as well as
OS/2 can print to the NeXT LP via TCP/IP. I do not need to output
to a file and then FTP to NeXT...the system just sees that printer
as a LP (set as Apple LaserNTX) or some such thing.
--
;************************************************************
; Jeff Bakst
; Gargoyle Studios
; 6806 Torch Key Street Lake Worth, Florida
; +1.561.963.8311 Voice
; +1.561.457.6907 Pager
; +1.561.640.6030 Fax
; email: jbakst@flinet.com
From: Paul Scott@inlink.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for NS 3.3
Date: 28 Jun 1996 03:16:38 GMT
Organization: inlink
Message-ID: <4qviqm$i1p@news2.inlink.com>
Hello,
I need to find someone who is willing to part with their copy of NS 3.3 for
Intel Processors, is their anyone out their who might be willing to sell or
trade it for a reasonable price now that 4.0 is being released?
Please E-mail me soon, I really want to upgrade ASAP.
shanshir@inlink.com
From: pbrown@math.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 2-up printing of dvi files?
Date: 28 Jun 1996 04:43:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <4qvntc$7u7@agate.berkeley.edu>
References: <Dto3Ln.C6G@midway.uchicago.edu> <4qvl0s$d7r@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
Lars Andreas Stole (lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: Is there an easy way to print 2 or more pages of a *.dvi file on the same
: page. TeXview doesn't have a print-format option; Preview does, but it
: [...]
There is a very easy way to do it; grab the teTeX for NeXT
distribution; it contains a script called "dvired" which does 2-up ps
files from DVI. It is actually BETTER than dvips followed by psnup
(unless you set the resolution correctly in advance...) because the
fonts are rendered (to bitmap) at the correct resolution for the
rotated pages.
It may be necessary to change the proportions in the script because A4
and A5 paper are different shapes, but it's not hard. (Just compute
8.5/11 to replace the 1/Sqrt[2]...)
Paul
--
_____________________________________________________________________
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pbrown@math.berkeley.edu http://math.berkeley.edu/~pbrown/
NeXTmail preferred.
_____________________________________________________________________
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: WOW! - Running Start's new Twister.app and button
Date: 28 Jun 1996 05:34:12 GMT
Organization: Digital Fix Development
Message-ID: <4qvqsk$7dd@digifix.digifix.com>
These two apps are MUST have pieces of software. And they are free.
Twister.app lets you bend and twist EPS files. I've written alot of this text
bending and manipulation stuff in my distant past (mainly on the Mac, but some
on NS), and the speed they've wrung out of this little toy app is really cool,
and lots of bells and whistles. Definately a nifty toy to have around.
button on the other hand is simple, single-minded and does its job. Which is
perfect because thats enough. Its a command line tool. Give it a .tiff and
it will give it raised edges like a button. You can adjust how much of a rise
the edge of the button has, but thats about it. For making WWW graphics under
NS, its just enough!
Once again Ralph and David have given us some VERY nifty FREE software. Check
out their web site at
http://www.running-start.com/
Its not the first really cool free stuff they've made available either, and
some of it even has source!
BTW, yes, this may seem a little over the top, but button will save cycles for
some of us who make these things all the time, and Twister just tugs at some
old memories... :-)
--
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: 2-up printing of dvi files?
Date: 27 Jun 1996 20:24:19 GMT
Organization: "private site"
Message-ID: <4quqlj$agp@eskimo.eskimo.bb.bawue.de>
References: <Dto3Ln.C6G@midway.uchicago.edu>
Cc: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu
Lars Andreas Stole wrote:
> Is there an easy way to print 2 or more pages of a *.dvi file on the same
> page. TeXview doesn't have a print-format option; Preview does, but it
> doesn't appear to work with postscript files generated by dvips.
I use a little script I wrote (I know, maybe there is a better way to do it,
but my unix knowledge is limited :-).
dvips -x707 -D300 -ta4 -o /tmp/d2d.ps $1
pstops "2:0L(29cm,-1cm)+1L(29cm,13.8cm)" /tmp/d2d.ps /tmp/d2d-double.ps
pslpr -f /tmp/d2d-double.ps
rm /tmp/d2d.ps /tmp/d2d-double.ps
--
Juergen
_______________________________________________________________________
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From: pom@imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Pommerening)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: [Q] Looking for a PS viewer which reliably reads MS Word's PS
Date: 28 Jun 1996 07:02:15 GMT
Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitt Mainz, Germany
Message-ID: <4r001n$8he@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>
References: <4qup09$g1@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
In article <4qup09$g1@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David
Finton) writes:
# I'm wondering if there's a public domain PS viewer for the NeXT which
# is more tolerant of Microsoft's buggy PostScript.
#
Did you load the `buggy' PS document into Edit and removed the first
(virtually blank) character? This usually works for me.
--
Klaus Pommerening
Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation
der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet, D-55101 Mainz, Germany
PGP fingerprint: F5 03 CE E7 70 C2 8C 74 BA ED EC 60 83 3B 7C 89
http://www.Uni-Mainz.DE/~pommeren/
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: FAT binaries under NS 2.1?
Date: 28 Jun 1996 04:55:51 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA
Message-ID: <4qvokn$sn6@usenet.rpi.edu>
References: <4qrjjb$mro@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca> <DtMIB5.K8x@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <Pine.NXT.3.94.960626232414.2788A-100000@charisma>
"Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, David Evans wrote:
>
> > Alan Kelm <kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca> wrote:
> > > I've downloaded several binaries from peanuts.leo.org, in
> > > the hope of running them on this Next machine (m68k with
> > > NextStep 2.1 operating system). Nothing runs. Instead I
> > > get messages like:
> > >
> > > syntax error at line 2: ')' unexpected
> > >
> > > It seems that the binary format is not recognized by my
> > > machine. Am I overlooking something, or am I limited to
> > > only very old binaries? Any hints would be appreciated,
> > > since I am quite new to NeXT.
> >
> >
> > FAT binaries were not supported until 3.1. I'd say you're
> > pretty limited under 2.1.
> >
>
> That may be true, but there's no reason why you can try one of
> the new lipo's:
My guess is that there's no point to it. Anything which is compiled
FAT is from NeXTSTEP 3.x. Ignoring the issue that it's fat, chances
are still mighty good that it won't run on a NeXTSTEP 2.x system.
---
Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda)
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Message-ID: <DtpsA9.Ko@AWT.NL>
Sender: news@AWT.NL
Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> <ANDERSON.96Jun25214620@sapir.ling.yale.edu> <DtLzw2.JwK@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> <4qrvrv$7ta@news1.channel1.com> <31D3CC34.41E6@mpr.ca>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 14:30:09 GMT
Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca> wrote:
>I talked to NeXT sales today an they said that we should see something
>on their web page on friday (which happens to be the last business day
>of Q2) The pricing that I was given is the same that was posted here.
It would be a scream if they would offer a bundle stuff on June 28 that
expires on June 30. That gives you a whole saturday and sunday to order. I
can't believe that that will happen. Really, I can't.
>Also I asked regarding NeXT apparel and they said that they would be
>opening a NeXTMaRT ;-) for selling NeXT stuff (ie. t-shirts) on the
>internet. This would be in the coming months probably in the hot news
>section.
Kind of balances the $499 for OS/NT runtime, doesn't it?
--
Gerben Wierda,
Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps-
en Technologiebeleid. Javastraat 42, 's-Gravenhage
Staff member Advisory Council for Science and
Technology Policy, The Hague, The Netherlands
Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992
"One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can
question."
From: rdieter@mathlab44.unl.edu (Rex Dieter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Upgrading NeXTTeX to LaTeX 2e
Date: 28 Jun 1996 14:46:23 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Message-ID: <4r0r7v$gic@crcnis3.unl.edu>
References: <4qonet$gt4@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
In article <4qonet$gt4@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) writes:
don't know where I got it from (probably peanuts).
>
> I got one from ftp://mathlab03.unl.edu/pub/software/NeXT/TeX. Works
> right out of the box. Looking on peanuts might be a good idea, too.
> I hear that switching to teTeX has some advantages, but for the
> moment I'm just fine. Let's wait and see what comes with 4.0 first.
FYI, our ftp server died last week... mathlab03.unl.edu...
The good news is: you can get all the TeX goodies at:
http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/Software/OpenStep/TeX
--
Rex Dieter
Computer System Manager
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Nebraska Lincoln
From: jeff@tiag.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: HELP:Need Mac 7.5 Print Driver for NeXT laser printer
Date: 28 Jun 1996 14:55:46 GMT
Organization: Told in a Garden
Message-ID: <4r0rpi$bg@noc1.biddeford.com>
References: <4qfe4e$efr@butch.lmsc.lockheed.com> <joel-2406960948140001@asteroid08.threedi.com> <4qr7uc$s4k@chinx4.thoughtport.net>
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rwakeman: rwakeman@thoughtport.com wrote:
>On 06/24/96, Joel Lingenfelter wrote:
>>>Anyone know where I can get a Mac (OS 7.5.2) printer driver (i.e., a
>>>chooser extension) which will drive a NeXT laser printer!? No luck
>in
>>>the Mac archives I've searched. Thanks much for any help!
I'm using InterPrint from InterCom to print from a Mac
to a NeXT Laser Printer on a NeXTStation and it works quite
nicely. It lets you choose the printer with the Chooser as well.
I'm running MacOS 7.1 though and not 7.5.
Jeff Adams
jeff@tiag.com
Told in a Garden
From: Technical Options <toi@mcs.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Chicago- Nextstep Developers
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 96 12:06:02 PDT
Organization: MCSNet Internet Services
Message-ID: <NEWTNews.8068.835988836.Postmaster@toi.mcs.net>
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Multiple positions: S/W Engineers to S/R S/W Engineers
Salary commenurate with experience, 40-100K Plus bonus.
Desired Skills: Nextstep, Objective C, Sybase, Interface Builder & Next
development tools
The candidate should have 2-5 years plus experience. Eligible candidate should
have the following skills:
1) Ability to handle multiple projects simultaneously
2) Ability to work under pressure in time critical situations
3) Problem solving and analytical capabilities
Knowledge of one of the following:
- Financial Derivatives Business
- Currency Options Pricing
- Risk Management
- Interest Rate Derivatives
Contact Mike Hartnett for more information; Technical Options, Inc
P-708.357.9400 toi@mcs.net
F-708.357.9411
From: beckwith@orange.icd.teradyne.com (Bob Beckwith )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Need Help w/PPP2.2-0.4.6 on NeXTStation Color w/NS3.3 (LONG)
Date: 27 Jun 1996 22:29:39 GMT
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA
Message-ID: <4qv20j$312@steadfast.teradyne.com>
I've run into a roadblock trying to get PPP running on a NeXTStation Color
running NEXTSTEP 3.3.
The connection comes up, and both machines "echo" each other, but my machine
is unable to get it's IP address. I'm not sure what I did wrong. Any help
would be (greatly) appreciated!
The PPP debug output is included below.
Thanks again!
--Bob
P.S. I tried posting this to the PPP list, but I think it's moved. Either
that or my membership has "lapsed" since I didn't receive anything after
I "posted" my request. Any pointers to that list would also be appreciated.
Jun 26 03:45:35 localhost chat[210]: send (set port ppp enabled^M)
Jun 26 03:45:36 localhost pppd[208]: Serial connection established.
Jun 26 03:45:37 localhost pppd[208]: Using interface ppp0
Jun 26 03:45:37 localhost pppd[208]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufa
Jun 26 03:45:37 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic 0x25017a36> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jun 26 03:45:37 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic 0x25017a36> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 <asyncmap 0xa0000> <magic 0x804b141> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: (a0000)
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: (ACK)
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: (804b141)
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: (ACK)
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: (ACK)
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: (ACK)
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFACK.
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 <asyncmap 0xa0000> <magic 0x804b141> <pcomp> <accomp>]
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0> <compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jun 26 03:45:39 localhost pppd[208]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <bsd v1 10>]
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 131.101.4.100>]
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: ipcp: received ADDR
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: (131.101.4.100)
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: (ACK)
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: ipcp: returning Configure-ACK
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 <addr 131.101.4.100>]
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [IPCP ConfRej id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0> <compress VJ 0f 01>]
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2]
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0x1 80 fd 01 01 00 07 15 03 2a]
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: lcp_rprotrej.
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: lcp_rprotrej: Rcvd Protocol-Reject packet for 80fd!
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2]
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: ipcp: up
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: Could not determine local IP address
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: ipcp: down
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: sent [IPCP TermReq id=0x3]
Jun 26 03:45:40 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [IPCP TermAck id=0x3]
Jun 26 03:45:55 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:45:55 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:46:11 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x2 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:46:11 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x2 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:46:26 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x3 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:46:26 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x3 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:46:42 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x4 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:46:42 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x4 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:46:57 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x5 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:46:58 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x5 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:47:13 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x6 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:47:13 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x6 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:47:29 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x7 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:47:29 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x7 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:47:44 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x8 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:47:44 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x8 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:48:00 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x9 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:48:00 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x9 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:48:15 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xa 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:48:16 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xa 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:48:31 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xb 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:48:31 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xb 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:48:47 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xc 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:48:47 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xc 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:49:02 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xd 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:49:03 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xd 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:49:18 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xe 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:49:18 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xe 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:49:34 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xf 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:49:34 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xf 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:49:49 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x10 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:49:49 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x10 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:50:05 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x11 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:50:05 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x11 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:50:20 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x12 25 01 7a 36]
Jun 26 03:50:21 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x12 08 04 b1 41]
Jun 26 03:50:24 localhost pppd[208]: Terminating on signal 2.
Jun 26 03:50:24 localhost pppd[208]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x2]
Jun 26 03:50:24 localhost pppd[208]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x2]
Jun 26 03:50:24 localhost pppd[208]: Connection terminated.
Jun 26 03:50:25 localhost pppd[208]: Exit.
From: Keith Jones <joneskr@cig.mot.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for Informix Adapter
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:47:25 -0500
Organization: Motorola
Message-ID: <31D428BD.2781@cig.mot.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I want to connect a NeXT 3.2 app to a Informix SQL server via the
network.
Does an Informix DB Adapter exists from ftp sites, third-party
organizations, or even Informix Inc?
=========================================================
Keith Jones, Cellular Infrastructure Group, Motorola, Inc.
1475 W. Shure Drive, Arlington Heights, IL 60004
From: markus@demetri.abo.fi (Markus Jantti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ghostHPDJ, ghostscript and gs_init.ps
Date: 28 Jun 1996 15:03:46 +0200
Organization: Abo Akademi University
Sender: markus@demetri.abo.fi
Message-ID: <x791d8ull9.fsf@demetri.abo.fi>
Hi -- I (almots) successfully installed the ghostHPDJ package on my NS
3.3/I, using a HP DJ 600 printer. The only problem is that although I
used the gs_init.ps file provided with ghostHPDJ rather than that
provided wth gs 2.6.1, my printer doesn't get the scandinavian capital
letter AE, OE and AA (i.e., A with two dots on top, O with two dots on
top and an A with a ring), although it does correctly do the lowercase
letters.
I wonder, has anyone had the same problem, and does anyone have a
solution to it?
Markus Jantti | Department of Economics
markus.jantti@abo.fi | Abo Akademi University
http://www.abo.fi/~mjantti | FIN 20500 Turku, Finland
358-0-643 747 (Home/Voice) | 358-21-2654 161 (Office/Voice)
358-0-3489 233 (Home/Fax) | 358-21-2654 677 (Office/Fax)
--
Markus Jantti | Department of Economics
markus.jantti@abo.fi | Abo Akademi University
http://www.abo.fi/~mjantti | FIN 20500 Turku, Finland
358-0-643 747 (Home/Voice) | 358-21-2654 161 (Office/Voice)
358-0-3489 233 (Home/Fax) | 358-21-2654 677 (Office/Fax)
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: 28 Jun 1996 23:08:05 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft, Inc.
Message-ID: <4r1okl$oag@uuneo.neosoft.com>
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> <ANDERSON.96Jun25214620@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
<DtLzw2.JwK@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> <4qrvrv$7ta@news1.channel1.com>
<jbf-2706960143430001@news.tiac.net> <4qthmr$eqc@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>
<4qudrc$5h8@news3.digex.net>
Cc: jkheit@cnj.digex.net
In <4qudrc$5h8@news3.digex.net> John Kheit wrote:
> paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) wrote:
> > I don't know of anyone else who received the offer.
>
> Just to chime in, I got the offer...
How? E-mail? Postal mail? Phone solicitation?
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Bob Love, rlove@neosoft.com (local) MIME & NeXT Mail OK
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From: iscape@access2.digex.net (Evan Baer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shooting oneself in the foot...
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Date: 29 Jun 1996 03:30:22 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Message-ID: <4r280e$mhs@news4.digex.net>
References: <4qqaja$7ll@ratty.wolfe.net>
Its all quite depressing, the NeXT environment really is well
suited to developing software. So much so, that I would think NeXT
would say that if a developer really will shell out the $5000 it costs
for OpenStep 4.0, then they wouln't charge for the runtime <much less
$500 per copy>.
Sigh, i was going to spend some time and try to develop for OpenStep,
now I am going to spend my time on java.
Steve, I used to belive :(
- Evan
Dayne Miller (dayne@wolfenet.com) wrote:
: [Setting: Midday. A typical corporate office environment. Our Hero, an
: Average Consumer in the high-tech industry, in a moment of curiosity, picks
: up the phone and dials. A voice answers.]
:
: Voice: Hello. NeXT Software. What can I do for you today?
:
: Our Hero: Hi. I was calling to check on OpenStep for Mach availability and
: pricing.
:
: Voice: Sure. That'll be available on the 27th -- this Thursday. Are you
: upgrading 3.3 Developer?
:
: Our Hero: Actually, I don't have the development environment. I'm a
: registered user of NEXTSTEP User 3.3 and wanted to upgrade.
:
: Voice: Oh. You know, that won't really do anything for you. From a user
: perspective, there's really no reason to upgrade. As I understand it, that's
: how this is being positioned.
:
: Our Hero [incredulously]: Really??
:
: Voice: If you want it anyway, the price is $199.
:
: Our Hero: How about OpenStep for NT? Not as an upgrade to NEXTSTEP -- I'd be
: interested in the full version. Has the price been set yet?
:
: Voice: That will be $499.
:
: Our Hero: Thanks for your help. I'll call back on Thursday.
:
: ############
:
: Now, this *really* happened. [Caveat: I *may* be misquoting the $499 OpenStep
: for NT price -- I honestly can't say now if it was $499 or $399 -- sorry for
: that ambiguity. I was thinking more about the Mach version at the time.]
:
: The phone rep was helpful and friendly, but I ask: Can any company really
: hope to succeed when *any* product gets respose like that? Here I was,
: plastic in hand ready to shell out upgrade $$$, and I'm told that *it won't
: do anything for me, there's no reason to upgrade*!!!
:
: Of course, being a sucker, I'll do it anyway. Always have to have the latest
: [and presumably greatest...] The QuickTime support, built-in PPP and a few
: other features make it worthwhile to me over the life of the product; I also
: want to make sure of maximum driver availability. But think about Jane or Joe
: Corporate (or even Ms. or Mr. Consumer).
:
: And half a grand for the NT runtime? I'll pass, thanks.
:
: -Dayne Miller
: dayne@wolfenet.com
From: vazquezr@physics.ucla.edu (Rick Vazquez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Day Dream 2.2
Date: 29 Jun 1996 08:01:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Los Angeles
Message-ID: <4r2nse$jn0@uni.library.ucla.edu>
Could someone please help me, I have a DayDream but I only have kernel 1.44
and really need 2.2, btu I have looked high and low. Could someone please
NeXTMail me the upgrade Disk????
I don't think anyone will mind, considering that you need the Hardware to
make it work.
Rick
UCLA Physics
vazquezr@physics.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld)
Subject: Next EPS to Macintosh (Quark Express) Conversion
Organization: CYANTIC Systems
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:09:07 GMT
Message-ID: <1996Jun27.230907.25091@cyantic.com>
We need to convert Next EPS to Macintosh EPS format including colour
attributes. This must be done programmatically, not at the command line.
Has anyone done this before (of course) and is there a utility (class or
code snippet) available out there?
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166
1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
"Vasily, give me one ping; one ping only"
--
--
Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation Voice: (416) 621-6166
1 Eva Road Suite 301 Facsimile: (416) 621-6212
Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: quite@dial.pipex.com (Aandi Inston)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Next EPS to Macintosh (Quark Express) Conversion
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 13:07:37 GMT
Organization: UnipalmPIPEX server (post doesn't reflect views of UnipalmPIPEX)
Message-ID: <4r39pn$l1c@soap.news.pipex.net>
References: <1996Jun27.230907.25091@cyantic.com>
mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) wrote:
>We need to convert Next EPS to Macintosh EPS format including colour
>attributes. This must be done programmatically, not at the command line.
>Has anyone done this before (of course) and is there a utility (class or
>code snippet) available out there?
There are only three formats of EPS-with-preview that I've ever heard
of:
- PC-format, which includes a TIFF or WMF preview inside the EPS file
- Mac-format, which includes a PICT preview accompanying the file
- EPSI-format, which includes a greyscale preview as PostScript
comments in the file.
So, what is NeXT format EPS. Actually, I rather suspect it is EPS
without preview, with NeXT using its display PostScript facilities to
show you the preview.
No answer, I'm afraid, just trying to clarify the question...
----------------------------------------
Aandi Inston quite@dial.pipex.com
Visit http://ds.dial.pipex.com/quite for info on PostScript,
PSAlter, psalters, tea, and small furry animals. And stuff.
From: anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Any decent OCR software for NS/OS?
Date: 29 Jun 1996 18:45:45 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Linguistics, Yale University
Message-ID: <ANDERSON.96Jun29144545@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
Is there any OCR package that's worth using under NextStep? A bit over
a year ago, I bought an Epson scanner to use with my cube. At the
time, since I wanted to scan in a considerable amount of text, I
bought a copy of ExpressOCR - it was quite expensive, but it was
presented as a NeXT port of the OCR engine of OmniPage. What I got
(for a big chunk of my research budget) was roughly alpha-quality
software, a pretty good OCR engine in a kludge-y package, given to
crashing, most features beyond bare text recognition stubbed in but
not implemented. Promises of upgrades to come, but since then nothing,
and no reply to many email requests for information on possible
improvements. Silly me.
I tried eXTRAREAD, the only other OCR package I know of for NS, but
it's much slower, nowhere near as accurate as ExpressOCR on basic text
recognition, extremely temperamental about input files, and also given
to frequent crashes. As far as I know, it hasn't been updated in about
a year and a half or more.
I was just browsing in the local computer store, and when I see what's
available for Mac or Windoze, at pretty reasonable prices, it makes me
sad. For scanner control, NS users have ScanOmatic, which keeps
getting improved and is now quite nice and quite flexible, and
supports an impressive range of scanners. It also supports OCR as a
service: is there any service provider out there?
--Steve Anderson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco
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From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 96 17:58:03 -0400
Subject: Alexandra newsreader
Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary
Anyone care to comment on this? I've been using it and it seems
quite good. Only problem I had is that it didn't seem to save my
.newsrc without me manually telling it to do to before quitting.
I'd like to hear how others have found this app to be (good/bad/indiff).
TjL
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NeXTMail adored (SUN/MIME OK!)
Watch this space for my WEBPAGE, coming soon!
From: daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Workspace lossage
Date: 30 Jun 1996 01:17:53 GMT
Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University
Message-ID: <4r4kk1$c5q@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Any help on this problem would be appreciated:
Today I was working (NS3.2 black hardware) when the window server
crashed. After rebooting, and ever since, the Workspace Manager gets
an error shortly after I log in saying "Workspace Manager Error--Try
to save changes to files in other applications before logging out".
If I manage to start up a terminal (or whatever), I can work with no
problem (as long as I don't use any Workspace Manager functions, such
as clicking on the dock).
Looking in /usr/adm/messages, I see this at the time of the crash:
Jun 29 17:19:05 myhost Workspace[921]: logged in
Jun 29 17:19:22 myhost WindowServer[918]: WindowServer: Exception caught: PS-10
8.1 on host `myhost', user `david': Emulation exception (SIGEMT),
Jun 29 17:19:22 myhost WindowServer[918]: [ pc = 0x544be
Jun 29 17:19:22 myhost WindowServer[918]: , from 0x23c04
Jun 29 17:19:22 myhost WindowServer[918]: , from 0x83c0
Jun 29 17:19:22 myhost WindowServer[918]: , from 0x7cc4
Jun 29 17:19:22 myhost WindowServer[918]: , from 0x33772
Jun 29 17:19:22 myhost WindowServer[918]: , from 0x5680c
Jun 29 17:19:22 myhost WindowServer[918]: , from 0xc580
Jun 29 17:19:22 myhost WindowServer[918]: , from 0x4348c
Jun 29 17:19:22 myhost WindowServer[918]: , from 0x43fc8
Jun 29 17:19:22 myhost WindowServer[918]: ]
Now, when I get the "Workspace Manager Error", I see this in
/usr/adm/messages:
Jun 29 17:51:25 myhost loginwindow[173]: loginwindow: Workspace exited ts 0 cd
0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0.
Note that my disk was almost full at the time, so it's probable that
the problem had to do with the swap file growing and my disk filling
up (although there was no "file system full" or "IO error on pageout".)
Any idea what I need to do to fix my problem? I can still access the
Net so I can download pieces of NextStep as needed from another
computer, but I don't know what was damaged (if anything) so I don't
know what to load. I'd really rather not rebuild my disk from scratch.
Please cc: your response directly to me.
Thanks,
David Jaffe
david@jaffe.com
From: dayne@wolfenet.com (Dayne Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: 30 Jun 1996 01:36:53 GMT
Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C.
Message-ID: <4r4lnl$cn5@ratty.wolfe.net>
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> <ANDERSON.96Jun25214620@sapir.ling.yale.edu> <DtLzw2.JwK@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> <4qrvrv$7ta@news1.channel1.com> <31D3CC34.41E6@mpr.ca> <DtpsA9.Ko@AWT.NL>
>Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca> wrote:
>>Also I asked regarding NeXT apparel and they said that they would be
>>opening a NeXTMaRT ;-) for selling NeXT stuff (ie. t-shirts) on the
>>internet. This would be in the coming months probably in the hot news
So would this be:
"THE OBJECT IS THE APPAREL"
(???)
Also, I hear that NeXT t-shirts are pretty cool, but very expensive, and
[sadly] only fit a small percentage of people. They also have really
complicated washing instructions.
-Dayne Miller
dayne@wolfenet.com
P.S. Actually, NeXT or OpenStep paraphernalia would be pretty cool, I suppose
-- but good marketing and a commitment to the OS would be cooler.
From: "Jonathan W. Hendry" <steeldrv@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: No Comments Re OS4.0?
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 21:58:38 -0400
Organization: Steel Driving Software, Inc.
Message-ID: <31D5DF4E.41BB@ix.netcom.com>
References: <jbf-2406961802310001@news.tiac.net> <ANDERSON.96Jun25214620@sapir.ling.yale.edu> <DtLzw2.JwK@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> <4qrvrv$7ta@news1.channel1.com> <31D3CC34.41E6@mpr.ca> <DtpsA9.Ko@AWT.NL> <4r4lnl$cn5@ratty.wolfe.net>
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Dayne Miller wrote:
> P.S. Actually, NeXT or OpenStep paraphernalia would be pretty cool, I suppose
> -- but good marketing and a commitment to the OS would be cooler.
NeXT's reminding me of 'Hitchhiker's Guide...'.
#import <usenet/bad_paraphrase.h>
"Yes, I saw the OpenStep bundle flyer. It was in an unlit basement room
with a sign on the door saying 'Beware Of The Leopard'"
- Jon
From: daj@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (David Jaffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Workspace lossage fixed
Date: 30 Jun 1996 01:38:58 GMT
Organization: CCRMA, Stanford University
Message-ID: <4r4lri$ca0@nntp.Stanford.EDU>
Regarding the previously-reported problem with Workspace:
I was able to fix it by downloading a fresh copy of Workspace. Note
that all files had the correct size and date. So the clobberage must
have been some part of the executable being overwritten in such a way
that the file system didn't detect it. I assume this was a result of the
disk filling up.
David Jaffe
david@jaffe.com
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Alexandra newsreader
Date: 30 Jun 1996 04:07:27 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4tbvbt.bqj.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <199606292158.RAA20987@nerc.com>
On Sat, 29 Jun 96 17:58:03 -0400, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> wrote:
> Anyone care to comment on this? I've been using it and it seems
> quite good. Only problem I had is that it didn't seem to save my
> .newsrc without me manually telling it to do to before quitting.
To me that seems like a pretty bad thing. I'd suggest trying slrn
(ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/slrn/). It's quick (probably quicker than
any GUI newsreader you'll use) and I'm fairly sure the next release (0.8.9)
will offer programming extensions you won't find in most newsreaders
(certainly any GUI newsreader I've heard of).
It depends what features you want, of course, but a good way to rate
newsreaders is the GNKSA/U (Good Net-Keeping Seal of Approval for Usenet
software). Check out http://http.bsd.uchicago.edu/~t-pierce/news/index.html
for info and some GNKSA reviews.
--
Due to local news server and feed problems, I might not see all followups.
From: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Shooting oneself in the foot...
Date: 30 Jun 1996 12:58:57 GMT
Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria
Message-ID: <4r5tmh$f6j@news.tuwien.ac.at>
References: <4qqaja$7ll@ratty.wolfe.net> <4r280e$mhs@news4.digex.net>
Cc: iscape@access2.digex.net
In <4r280e$mhs@news4.digex.net> Evan Baer wrote:
> Steve, I used to belive :(
Oh oh, do you really think that His Highness Who Felt Inclined to Have
Visions So That He Could Then Drop Them at a Whim *really* bothers to read,
or have someone at his company read, what advocates of his now discarded
ideas think?
Believe me, SJ gives _crap_ about what NeXT advocates think, and gives
likewise for NeXT the idea. He and his corporate bigwigs have long been off
to some new hypish pastures to graze in the cozy warm light of media
coverage.
All the marketing pinheads at N. S. Inc. needed to do would have been to put
*one bloody line* on their nice and colourful website saying something about
the status and the availability of a product they want to sell (yeah, they
actually want us to pay money for it, and still play hide-and seek for good
measure???). We've arrived at a point where NeXT users and advocates are
content with _very_ little information...
But then, who gives a damn about us engineers and their queer inclinations
(like admiring well-designed systems and actually wanting to _use_ them)
anyway...
Having a state of the art product like Openstep 4.0/Mach on your hands (yes,
IMHO even NS 3.3 is in the same league as NT and the like) and _not selling
it_ is _purest idiocy_.
Just my $2E-32
A.W.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jens@ipc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: Animation in OmniWeb
Message-ID: <Dtt5FB.5HD@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
References: <199606270353.DAA02112@next.fiton.is>
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:06:46 GMT
Bjarni Thor Juliusson <bjarni@fiton.is> writes
> Has any one managed to get animation in OmniWeb,
> like animated GlF89?
Nope, only the last/first images appear, and they won't cycle too.
so long,
jens ch. gloede
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: jens@ipc.de (Jens Ch. Gloede)
Subject: Re: Any proxy server support NeXTSTEP????
Message-ID: <Dtt5KK.5I4@interpc.de>
Sender: usenet@interpc.de
Organization: interpersonal-computing GmbH
References: <4qjnde$qgg@highway.leidenuniv.nl>
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:09:55 GMT
Geert Jan van Oldenborgh writes
> Operator (root@bluesky-syd.bluesky.net.au) wrote:
>
> > we have tried the apache 1.1b4..
> It ain't the newest fastest greatest, but the CERN httpd with proxy
runs just
> fine for me. Available from www.w3.org I think, it used to have
precompiled
> version for black & intel h/w, but it seems these have disppeared..
Our CERN Proxy just spent 2.400 DM (1600 US$) of IP volume within one
hour.
We were 10 s on a page with a image server push and though we left it
and quit the browser and powerd down the client our PROXY seems to
have pulled for another hour.
so long,
jens ch. gloede
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From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NS Web readers RAM requirements (was: Re: Minimum RAM requirements)
Date: 30 Jun 1996 19:53:10 GMT
Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs
Message-ID: <slrn4tdmp6.j8j.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
References: <eric-2806960040430001@mg131-024.ricochet.net> <Pine.NXT.3.94.960628104254.778C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu>
[This has more to do with NS software than the NS marketplace, so I've
canceled the followup to csn.marketplace and posted it here instead.]
On Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:47:37 -0400, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
> Note that there have been reports of problems using OmniWeb 2.x with less
> than 24/32 RAM (if I remember correctly) eating swapspace
Actually, there were also reports of people with far more than 32MB of RAM
saying that OmniWeb version 2 was still slow to do anything (including
loading bookmarks). If at all possible, I recommend skipping NS WWW clients
and using Netscape instead. It might represent corporate greed more than the
NS developers, but if you're primarily interested in a Netscape-compatible
web client that runs quickly in a reasonable amount of memory, you won't
find one on NS.
--
Due to local news server and feed problems, I might not see all followups.
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Alexandra newsreader
Date: 30 Jun 1996 20:02:38 GMT
Organization: frazer.com
Message-ID: <jbf-3006961602460001@news.tiac.net>
References: <199606292158.RAA20987@nerc.com>
In article <199606292158.RAA20987@nerc.com>, luomat@nerc.com wrote:
> I'd like to hear how others have found this app to be (good/bad/indiff).
At one point a few months back, I tried the latest releases of everything
I could find. My benchmark was NewsWatcher on the Mac. I'm still using
NewsWatcher because it's free, it's fast and it has a sensible window setup
(three windows - selected groups, articles in group, and article - plus an
all groups window if you need it).
The more ambitious NeXT newsreaders emphasize threading, which hardly
matters on any groups I follow (and certainly not on c.s.n.*, where there
hasn't been a real thread or flame war in months, if not years).
They also try to cram it all into one window, and there just isn't enough
screen real estate for that to work well.
In my timing tests, the initial news group load took forever on all readers,
and new article updating was pretty slow as well. NewsFlash was the only one
that began to approach NewsWatcher in speed. It would be my choice if I had
to read news on the NeXT.
Barney
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NS Web readers RAM requirements (was: Re: Minimum RAM requirements)
Date: 30 Jun 1996 20:56:11 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Message-ID: <slrn4tdq2l.4kr.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu>
References: <eric-2806960040430001@mg131-024.ricochet.net> <Pine.NXT.3.94.960628104254.778C-100000@capitalist.princeton.edu> <slrn4tdmp6.j8j.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>
In article <slrn4tdmp6.j8j.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com>, J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote:
>[This has more to do with NS software than the NS marketplace, so I've
> canceled the followup to csn.marketplace and posted it here instead.]
>On Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:47:37 -0400, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@capitalist.princeton.edu> wrote:
>> Note that there have been reports of problems using OmniWeb 2.x with less
>> than 24/32 RAM (if I remember correctly) eating swapspace
>Actually, there were also reports of people with far more than 32MB of RAM
>saying that OmniWeb version 2 was still slow to do anything (including
>loading bookmarks). If at all possible, I recommend skipping NS WWW clients
>and using Netscape instead. It might represent corporate greed more than the
>NS developers, but if you're primarily interested in a Netscape-compatible
>web client that runs quickly in a reasonable amount of memory, you won't
>find one on NS.
Now look folks. I have found Omniweb completely usable on a Turbo
w/128Mb, and it was still better than Netscape on a Sparc 1 when I was
using a 25MHz slab with 32Mb. The NeXT is just not a big hairy machine
and that's life; there are plenty of PeeCee's out there with more
brawn, but they all suffer from low usability factor from my
perspective. (Since I can't really afford a good pentium/P6 NS machine
with mathematica and illustrator... :( ) So, if you can find a 33MHz
80486 that runs Netscape better than a slab runs Omniweb, then I would
consider it a legitimate knock on Omniweb, but I doubt you would be
able to find such a machine.
I'm staunchly opposed to Netscape and the like because the more
``features'' that a browser has, the greater the possibility that
impolitely large amounts of data will be sucked in by the browser
(eg., big MPEG's, two-way video, etc.). I have had friends using the
Net to connect to distributed processes that had to work in the middle
of the night because of too much traffic. I know that the net is now
supported by the commercial interests out there, but still... it was
nice in the days before WWW and spam and...
blah blah blah Damn kids.
Paul, an electronic old man at 25
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