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From: tone@wildfire.com (Tone <DoD>) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AppleStep FAQs - dd 961230 Date: 30 Dec 1996 22:22:32 GMT Organization: Wildfire Communications, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5a9fb8$lme@gnus.wildfire.com> References: <5a7i1n$ch6@news3.digex.net> In article <5a7i1n$ch6@news3.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: >Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> wrote: >> Q: What will the GUI of "AppleStep" look like?? > >> A: It will probably resemble today's MacOS-look a lot, since >> Avie Tevanian said he doesn't want to aliennize current MaC-Users >> away! > > >Hmm, I didn't get the above impression at all... I thought the >first version was pretty much going to be a port of the current >system...UI and all... Regardless.... K Sarah, K Sarah :) >-- >Thanks, later, John Kheit NOTE: opinion follows BRACE YOURSELF Oh I _pray_ it will be Nextstep with minor embellishments borrowed from Apple. Anything else, and I will wonder if quality is somehow anathematic to success. In my paranoid mind, I fear that someone will swing the other way, cave in and copy the worst of Bill Gate's user interface "truths": 1. icons of 32x32 pixels are somehow visually appealing 2. Humans can manipulate resize bars of 2-3 pixels in size 3. Modality is good (popups should always be modal, use of daughter windws is good because otherwise someone would be tempted to let another application modify data contained within MY applications windows). 4. Toolbars are a usability plus with icons of 8x8 pixels. 5. Make sure every window has copies of menus so that screen space is used to least possible benefit to user 6. when slecting text, make embarassing assumptions that people care to select words at a time, somplicating every other possible intention 7. Font point sizes should be microscopic 8. "Wizards" are helping make this easy for the user 9. "Live scrolling" and opaque window moves are fancy doo-dads. 10 Scroll bars need not be proportional, and clicking above or below them should be the means of paging up or down, in order that the last few such operations on a large scroll target can require the user to place their mouse upon a single pixel because we saw someone successfully do that once in our usability lab (well, more of a cubicle, really). 11. The more concepts you have, the more you can teach the user. Therefore, add "program groups", "start menu entries", "desktop shortcuts", AND regular ol' find it in your browser and click on the right file of the 700 in the executable's directory. They can always use the "run a program wizard". 12. One of our vice-presidents has grown fond of that little menu accessible in the upper left of the window which replicates operations available by more natural mechanisms, therefore it must remain in our UI spec. 13. "Maximize" buttons rule because they offer a subtle means of concealing the fact that our environment has no real support for inter-application synergy (which they accomplish by ensuring that only one application has any screen space at any given moment). Can you tell I love MS? These are all fairly simple violations of common sense, yet MS finds the glaring mistakes easiest to make -- the little things they do wrong are what eats up all their midnight oil programming hours (my guess). tony
From: Scott Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pages by Pages Date: 30 Dec 1996 22:21:33 GMT Organization: BCOG Message-ID: <5a9f9d$qfe@news.bctel.net> References: <32BED518.2A2170E6@screaming.org> <59ml1t$870@shelob.afs.com> <32C014BF.3426@dallas.net> <32C0CAC4.5176@afs.com> <5a91du$6sa@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <5a98q9$g8n@duke.squonk.net> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: >jdevlin@umich.edu wrote: >> I've never worked with PasteUp, so I can't comment on it. But >> I still lament the loss of Pages by Pages. [...] >> >> But Greg's right. Pages did come off as if it was simply trying >> to save low-end users from themselves. The problem, I think, >> was that they never released the Designer's Toolkit that would >> have let you set up your own Design Models. If I could have set >> up customized letter, article and book models they way I can with >> TeX or LaTeX, I would have been very pleased. As it was, it was >> a half-finished product that offered little or no value unless >> by chance the bundled Design Models met all your needs. > >I agree with this. Pages by Pages was a very promising concept, >marred by the fact that they never got the designer's toolkit >released. WebPages was a nice start on having a "word >processor for web pages", although it's now (easily) surpassed >by products from Go-Live, Adobe, and Claris. > >--- >Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu >Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) >Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA Who ownes the code? Is there a chance Pages could be revived in light of the recent merger?
From: tone@wildfire.com (Tone <DoD>) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Date: 30 Dec 1996 22:35:02 GMT Organization: Wildfire Communications, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5a9g2m$lti@gnus.wildfire.com> References: <5a950s$frj@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> In article <5a950s$frj@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan M. Urban) writes: >In article <5a7mar$510@huffalump.visi.com>, dwy@ace.net (David Young) wrote: > >> Basing anything on X incurs heavy ease-of-use penalties. > >Disagree. It is theoretically possible to implement DPS on top of X, >for example. Then it will look exactly like NEXTSTEP and behave almost >the same, and you can interface to it identically using the AppKit. In >fact this is more than theory; the GNUstep project is implementing this. I take it you don't regard involuntary user gagging as an ease of use penalty? :) tony
From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT OS for new buyers Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:34:57 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Message-ID: <tgritton-ya023180003012960934570001@news.sprynet.com> References: <lavalle-2812961418140001@port11.annex5.nwlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <lavalle-2812961418140001@port11.annex5.nwlink.com>, lavalle@nwlink.com (Russ LaValle) wrote: >Hi everyone, > >All of a sudden, a LOT more people are interested in NeXT! > >I'd like to jump in on this OS. .... The question is, how to get it. .... >One important question: Do all NextStations have CD ROM drives built in? My needs exactly (Dev 3.3 CD for black). I've lost the URL but I saw a compatibilty list of CD drives compatible with Next black hardware and a number of the Apple drives were listed. So perhaps one could borrow a CD drive from ones Mac for loading the Dev software from the CD to a hard drive. -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com
From: "Gregory H. Anderson" <greg@afs.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pages by Pages Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 17:51:11 -0500 Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <32C8475F.5504@afs.com> References: <32BED518.2A2170E6@screaming.org> <59ml1t$870@shelob.afs.com> <32C014BF.3426@dallas.net> <32C0CAC4.5176@afs.com> <5a91du$6sa@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <5a98q9$g8n@duke.squonk.net> <5a9f9d$qfe@news.bctel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott wrote: > Who owns the code? Is there a chance Pages could be revived in light > of the recent merger? As I posted the other day, Pages was shut down, and they sold the rights to Ted Shelton's company (ITS), which I believe is also defunct. The code was pretty hairy -- not something you'd look forward to converting to OPENSTEP. It would be easier to take the concept and reimplement it in an app that was already a decent text/graphics engine. Greg
From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AppleStep FAQs - dd 961230 Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:45:53 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Message-ID: <tgritton-ya023180003012960945530001@news.sprynet.com> References: <9612291656.AA01433@huelf.hamburg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <9612291656.AA01433@huelf.hamburg.com>, Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> wrote: ... > >Speech-recognition is another feature that Steve Jobs might push >into "AppleStep", since he always craves for the best of all he can >get hold of. (NeXT has been living that, big screens since 1989, >2.88MB-Floppy, the Object-oriented environment that Taligent tried >to produce for Apple & IBM.....) One certainly hopes so. If you saw the Gates interview on the Charlie Rose show in December you might remember how he talked about 'ease of use' as the next big thing and in the same sentence he said 'speech recognition' and he said this twice. -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com
From: Scott Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ Date: 30 Dec 1996 22:45:42 GMT Organization: BCOG Message-ID: <5a9gmm$qfe@news.bctel.net> References: <32BD0901.48ED@sfbayrun.com> <59kdkl$ohd@news4.digex.net> <E2vBuB.22J@micmac.com> <abridge-2912961954310001@dcn133.dcn.davis.ca.us> <5a99so$3ns@news.tuwien.ac.at> thoma@track.cslab.tuwien.ac.at (Johannes Thoma) wrote: >Adam Bridge (abridge@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us) wrote: >> In article <E2vBuB.22J@micmac.com>, mic@micmac.com wrote: > >> > In <59kdkl$ohd@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote: >> > > If you don't want to see unix under NEXTSTEP, you never have to >> > > see it. >> > >> > I'm sorry: it's not true. Sure it's true for a single user... but _someone_ >> > has to do sysadmin work!!!! >> > Especially if you want to connect to Internet. There's nothing about it in >> > the package. You should know about it or maybe you forgot =;) >> > It's the same with sendmail. There's no way you can send mail on the outside >> > world without being under Unix. The Admin tools under Next have a very easy to use UI. You need not know any unix to configure Next. I have my Intel up and running just fine on a T3 to the Internet and also networked to an original Nextstation without using the command line.....besides I know nothing about Unix commands anyway......
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apple-><-NeXT == Bolo? Date: 30 Dec 1996 22:46:36 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-3012961444090001@mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net> References: <59uknj$255@BLaCKSMITH.com> <E33KFp.xs@euler.han.de> Bolo is a multiplayer tank game that you play over the network or over the internet. It is a lot of fun, and up to eight or sixteen (I can't remember) players can play at once. Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: jdevlin@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pages by Pages Date: 30 Dec 1996 23:06:00 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <5a9hso$e2m@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <32BED518.2A2170E6@screaming.org> <59ml1t$870@shelob.afs.com> <32C014BF.3426@dallas.net> <32C0CAC4.5176@afs.com> <5a91du$6sa@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <5a98q9$g8n@duke.squonk.net> <5a9f9d$qfe@news.bctel.net> <32C8475F.5504@afs.com> In-Reply-To: <32C8475F.5504@afs.com> On 12/30/96, "Gregory H. Anderson" wrote: [ ... ] > >As I posted the other day, Pages was shut down, and they sold the rights >to Ted Shelton's company (ITS), which I believe is also defunct. The >code was pretty hairy -- not something you'd look forward to converting >to OPENSTEP. It would be easier to take the concept and reimplement it >in an app that was already a decent text/graphics engine. > ... speaking of decent text engines .... Does anyone else remember the Archetype Document Engine? I thought that was a terrific idea -- just add it to the OS and call it Enterprise Document Frameworks ... -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: thecros@winternet.com (Michael Charles Crosby) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <thecros-3012960947400001@news.visi.com> Control: cancel <thecros-3012960947400001@news.visi.com> Date: 30 Dec 1996 22:44:36 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <5a9gkk$h05@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> This article canceled.
From: antonmanor@aol.com (AntonManor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: configuring Nextstep for the net Date: 30 Dec 1996 23:24:26 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961230232300.SAA21741@ladder01.news.aol.com> I could really use some help here this is making me pull out my hair
From: EASTERYI@chollian.dacom.co.kr (õ¸®¾È NEWS GROUP ÀÌ¿ëÀÚ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Financial software info needed! Date: 30 Dec 1996 23:23:25 GMT Organization: DACOM Internet Service Message-ID: <5a9itd$v32$1@usenet.dacom.co.kr> Hi !~ you there. I'm working on financial programming. But here in Seoul, there ain'nt any info to look up, so if you have any tips or guide on this subject, please write to me now! I appreciate anything you wrote. I am planning to make a financial analysis software that will be used by stock companies as a dicision backup tool. Do here anybody interested in derivatives ? Thanks in advance. Easter T. Yi
From: sangria@inlink.com (Sang K. Choe) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 00:14:22 GMT Organization: InLink Message-ID: <32c95a03.169884656@mambo> References: <32BD0901.48ED@sfbayrun.com> <59kdkl$ohd@news4.digex.net> <E2vBuB.22J@micmac.com> <jinx6568-3012961209030001@news.sover.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 30 Dec 1996 17:07:08 GMT, jinx6568@sover.net (Chris Johnson) wrote: >In article <E2vBuB.22J@micmac.com>, mic@micmac.com wrote: >> I'm sorry: it's not true. Sure it's true for a single user... but _someone_ >> has to do sysadmin work!!!! >> Especially if you want to connect to Internet. There's nothing about it in >> the package. You should know about it or maybe you forgot =;) >> It's the same with sendmail. There's no way you can send mail on the outside >> world without being under Unix. > > Whoa, hang on a second- Sendmail is a _router_, not a client! Sendmail is everything. It's dessert topping, a floor cleaner and a kitchen sink. And because it's everything, it's so damn ugly. Complex, huge and cryptic as hell. Making it extremely bug prone. My favorite sendmail bug: The one that lets you send a mail to any file on the host machine. Say something like /etc/passwd...being able to overwrite the /etc/passwd file with something like: root::0:0:root:/root:/bin/sh Makes for some very interesting weekends... 8*) -- Sang. ******************************************************** * Sang K. Choe sangria@inlink.com * * http://sangria.inlink.com/index.html * * finger: sang@sangria.inlink.com * ********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: AppleStep FAQs - dd 961230 Message-ID: <cdoutyE3967s.8M0@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <5a7i1n$ch6@news3.digex.net> <5a9fb8$lme@gnus.wildfire.com> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 00:47:52 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom4.netcom.com In article <5a9fb8$lme@gnus.wildfire.com>, Tone <DoD> <DoD> wrote: >NOTE: opinion follows BRACE YOURSELF > >Oh I _pray_ it will be Nextstep with minor embellishments borrowed from >Apple. Anything else, and I will wonder if quality is somehow anathematic >to success. In my paranoid mind, I fear that someone will swing the other >way, cave in and copy the worst of Bill Gate's user interface "truths": Amen. Hallelujah! The main reason I have stuck with NeXTSTEP since first scrounging up a cube in 1991 was the UI. I wanted UNIX for sure, and that motivated my original purchase, but this is the most beautiful UI I have ever used! Yes, NS can be improved with more keyboard/accessability features, etc. but I think the user interaction is superior to existing Mac and especially Windows/Motif systems. Let's hope there is a meeting of the minds wrt to the "look and feel" of the new OS and the bulk of NS is retained. Maybe I'm just biased, I bought an Amiga in 1985, not a Mac in 1984. #8^) -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 00:55:45 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32c86306.346996593@news.sover.net> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <carol1-2212961927330001@macip-ara-153.apple.com> <32be96c1.37286449@news.sover.net> <5a9aau$qmj@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> christw@lexis-nexis.com (Christopher C. Wood) wrote: >|> >Apple then paid Xerox an enormous amount of stock for the rights >|> >to many of their windowing/mice ideas. > >|> Xerox got screwed but it wasn't the first time. > >Xerox got $2 Million to $7 Million (depending on when they exercised >their stock options) for no risk and a day's time of some of their R&D >staff. You say they got screwed. Can you support that with anything >more than just your opinion? > I haven't seen any support for the 2 - 7 million figure but let's say it's right on. Xerox SHOULD have rented the widows/mice stuff in the same way that MS rented BASIC. Very poor management decision. Xerox got screwed - plain and simple.
From: mattw@staff.uiuc.edu (Matt Ward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need pop3D for NS 3.3 on black hardware Date: 31 Dec 1996 02:51:03 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: na Message-ID: <5a9v2n$8s6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Summary: Needed pop3 deamon for NS 3.3 on black hardware Keywords: mail pop Hi, I need a pop3 deamon that will run on a black next with NS 3.3 I have tried Torrey Mcmcahon's compilation of pop3d and cant get it to run. At boot the system reports pop3/tcp unknown service. I have it installed according to his directions. Any help would be great. Thanks -- Matt Ward mattw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu University of Illinios CCSO
From: dleblanc@mindspring.com (David LeBlanc) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next Subject: Favorite sendmail bugs Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 03:05:50 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5a9vsr$4fs@camel5.mindspring.com> References: <32BD0901.48ED@sfbayrun.com> <59kdkl$ohd@news4.digex.net> <E2vBuB.22J@micmac.com> <jinx6568-3012961209030001@news.sover.net> <32c95a03.169884656@mambo> sangria@inlink.com (Sang K. Choe) wrote: >Sendmail is everything. >It's dessert topping, a floor cleaner and a kitchen sink. >And because it's everything, it's so damn ugly. Complex, huge and >cryptic as hell. Making it extremely bug prone. >My favorite sendmail bug: >The one that lets you send a mail to any file on the host machine. >Say something like /etc/passwd...being able to overwrite the >/etc/passwd file with something like: The one I like the most is the one where it tries to contact your identd, so your identd tells it to execute commands like mailing /etc/passwd to the postmaster... Then there is your choice of buffer overflows and versions. I think the one you're talking about is fairly old, and involves the uudecode/uuencode aliases. David LeBlanc |Why would you want to have your desktop user, dleblanc@mindspring.com |your mere mortals, messing around with a 32-bit |minicomputer-class computing environment? |Scott McNealy
From: Tom Stepleton <ssteplet@artsci.wustl.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 21:35:14 -0600 Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32C889F2.5FCB4DAD@artsci.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: christw@lexis-nexis.com CC: intrepid@internet1.net > In article <32C0D0C8.4491@internet1.net>, Jeff Kavanaugh <intrepid@internet1.net> writes: > > |> If I remember correctly, Xerox PARC developed most of the > |> technology for the Macintosh, > > Nope. Mac and LISA were developed 100% by Apple Computer. Xerox PARC > did give Steve Jobs and some others at Apple the idea of producing a > GUI-based computer. Xerox was handsomely rewarded for that idea, too. > > |> The point I am making is that though Mr. Jobs did not invent this > |> technology, the did introduce it to the mainstream computer > |> consumer. > > Yes, he did. You're both a tad off. Xerox did not develop *most* of the technology used in the Lisa and the Mac. It did, however, develop the concept of a graphical user interface until it was practical to use, and subsequently ignored it. In return for some stock deals, select Apple execs and developers, prodded by Jef Raskin, were allowed an afternoon visit to Xerox PARC. Steve Jobs left a changed man and soon determined that Apple's next high-performance machine, the Lisa, would have a GUI. Apple engineers set to work, remembering what they had seen over the visit to PARC. Though they replicated many of the concepts they saw, an essentially new GUI emerged, with new innovations like drop-down menus and a one-button mouse, to name a few. There were similarites; both had a background program called "Scavenger" that cleaned the drives, for example. There was no one company that did this. As usual, it falls in the gray area in between. I suggest you visit my Apple Lisa Web Page http://galena.tj.edu.inter.net/tom/ Followups redirected accordingly. Later, --Tom +-----------+---------------------------+ ____ | Stepleton | ssteplet@artsci.wustl.edu |>-------|\__/_/__ +-----------+---------------------------+ \________}
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Who invented what? - here: 2.88MB - 3.5" Floppy drives Date: 31 Dec 1996 00:51:01 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5a9o1l$84d@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <9612291709.AA01445@huelf.hamburg.com> <5a9dq7$h67@news.wco.com> mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) wrote: > Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> wrote: > > >Steve Jobs invented the 2.88 netto (/ 4.0 brutto) > >ED - 3.5" Floppy drives! ;-) > > No. Sony and Toshiba developed these in a joint effort. NeXT was > among the first companies to design the drive into a piece of > hardware. (Bonus points: name the other companies.) IBM had something with 2.88 floppies. A friend of mine gave me a bunch of 2.88 floppies that he no longer needed, because everyone else kept trying to use them as 1.44 floppies. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Paul Naton <pnatona@cts.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can I Convert Next .snd files to Mac sound files? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:02:15 -0800 Organization: CTS Network Services Message-ID: <32C8AC5A.3B76@cts.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know how to convert Next .snd sound files to somthing my new Power Computing 604e mac can use? If I need a utility for the Next can you point the way to an FTP site? I have this HAL 9000 from 2001 startup sound thing I would like to use on the mac. Post here or E-Mail me. Thanks in advance Paul Naton Maximum Graphixs pnatona@cts.com Next Turbo color running NS 3.2 (black)
From: Paul Naton <pnatona@cts.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How do I Network Colorstation to Power Mac via ethernet? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:10:43 -0800 Organization: CTS Network Services Message-ID: <32C8AE54.7ED8@cts.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: comp.sys.next.hardware What is required to network my still cool but aging Turbo color Nextstation (3.2) to my new screaming fast Power Computing Powertower Pro 180? I hear it is pretty easy with ethernet. Any tips, comments, instructions or guidence would be helpful!!!! I am not a complete networking novice but have no experience getting a Slab to talk to a Mac. This may save me from getting a zip drive for the Next to transfer large graphics files back and forth. Mac and Next together atlast..........should have happened years ago........ love them both E-mail me or post in the newsgroup. Thanks Paul Naton pnatona@cts.com
From: wonko@madness.tmok.com (Wonko the Sane) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.mac.graphics Subject: Re: *MacUser is looking for some advice Date: 31 Dec 96 07:01:00 GMT Organization: IDS World Network Internet Access Service, (401) 885-4243 Message-ID: <slrn5chepa.189.wonko@madness.tmok.com> References: <lance-ya023180002012960620450001@news.psnw.com> <32BCD52A.F76@xmission.com> <slrn5brb4s.g89.wonko@madness.tmok.com> <32BE7A9D.5A67@mol.biol.ethz.ch> <slrn5btqbh.idl.wonko@madness.tmok.com> <32BF901B.66BF@mol.biol.ethz.ch> <32C00B08.67A5@xmission.com> <slrn5c0crc.jod.wonko@madness.tmok.com> <32C0697A.1CCE@xmission.com> <slrn5c3s05.189.wonko@madness.tmok.com> <32C2A1E8.1638@vlc.servicom.es> >Have you seen the specs for the SGI RealityMonster? yea, i REALLY want one, but, geez, can't really afford it. >1 ton of computer hardware... and worth every ounce. >I wonder if they could get one up my stairs...hmmmm... :) good luck!!!! :) -wonko
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mix for NeXT (motorola) Review Date: 31 Dec 1996 00:10:03 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <5aae8b$s80@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> After seeing the recent special on Mix from ilink, I thought I'd give it a shot... I am quite sick of my answering machine, and having to print on the NeXT laser printer and run it over to the fax machine got to be a royal pain in the behind. (I own a USR Sportster faxmodem, whose only virtue is that it works flawlessly with my ISP). Frankly, I never expected mix to work as well as it did, I was even more amazed that installation on my TurboColor took about 10 minutes, and the software required no "tweaking" in order for it to run... Aside from the basics: an answering machine, fax services, and data connection, there are a few more things it can do that ilink neglects to mention in their press releases: Fully programmable voicemail system (on the Plus package, which comes with the motorola version) that uses drag and drop objects to program how you want the system to behave. This includes faxback services. Additionally, labels and branch objects make complicated programming a snap. A final touch is a call object, that will call out to another number or pager. The capability of running *NIX applications, passing digits to these apps (via touch tones) from the mix application. The sound quality is superb, 8-bit 1 channel 8012Hz muLaw. How it works: Connected to the DSP port, a small black box (about the size of a CD case, but 1.5" thick) connects to the phone line. All the modem/fax/whatnot functions are performed in software on the Motorola DSP chip inside the NeXT. The mix software is also configured to allow sharing of the DSP chip with other applications. Machine load does not affect performance greatly, as least according to the documentation. The mix application does not seem to be a great resource pig either. Incoming calls can be heard over the speaker, as well as dial-out tones, such as the ones for the fax. (Here's a glitch I found, you may not hear it dial *all* the digits-especially if the machine is under load while dialing-but it does dial them all). The fax requires postscript documents for faxing (on faxback) or it will work like a regular faxmodem on the print menu. Finally, it has excellent documentation, since it was coming from Germany I was really concerned about the quality of the documentation, but it is more than adequate. Ordering from ilink was easy enough, they took my Visa and charged the appropriate amount in DM to the card, along with shipping costs (ilink ships via UPS international express, 1-2 business days for delivery, and it's ex-pen-sive). No glitches occured in shipment, except for an unexpected C.O.D. attachment for $16 that customs extorted off of me. My total cost for mix/motorola after all expenses was just shy of $400 US. Flaws: No apparent bugs that I can detect, and I've been playing with it all afternoon/evening. It must be run from an account (it is a windowserver application) that is currently logged in. When autostarted, the documentation does not make it clear that it starts up active or not (I have yet to find this out). I really cannot find anything bad to say about the mix application, except that the maximum speed for data connections is 2400 baud. Disclaimer: I do not work for, nor represent ilink in any way, I am just a customer. YMMV. All other standard disclaimers apply. The version I purchased was the motorola version, I suggest contacting ilink for more info as to what the packages (motorola/intel) include and their pricing. Their e-mail is: info@ilink.de --- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: "Karl Thomas" <karlt@ilinks.net> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Date: 31 Dec 1996 05:42:12 GMT Organization: Zip News Distribution: inet Message-ID: <01bbf6dd$3cb327c0$78c289ce@ns1.ilinks.net> References: <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> <AEED18A9-17E66@207.158.13.7> David Every <dke@adnc.com> wrote in article <AEED18A9-17E66@207.158.13.7>... > Thomas Vincent <info@sfbayrun.com> wrote: >>Except that Apple HAS PMT for low level tasks and drivers... its only >>the app layer that doesn't have this PMT. And garanteed time seems to >>work better on the MacOS's low-level stuff than on Windows from what >>I've seen... if you doubt me, just watch the mouse and do different >>things on both systems. The Mac almost NEVER stutters - Windoze does >>all the time. The Mac doesn't have PMT at any level. What the Mac does have is interrupt based services that can be used to guarantee a process gets adequate CPU time -- depending on the process. There is also the Time Manager and the Deferred Task Manager. You can program interrupts with plain old DOS.
From: "Frank Chu" <chu@ipoline.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: macintosh, steve jobs, and next step are all back! Date: 31 Dec 1996 07:23:54 GMT Organization: InterPacific Online Distribution: inet Message-ID: <01bbf6ea$87569840$5813acce@chu.ipoline.com> References: <01bbef77$50776810$15818bce@djowens> <851275965mnewsachaney@voicenet.com> <59k1ke$5sr@news.Hawaii.Edu> <32BD3D7E.422C@sfbayrun.com> <32BDB8B6.5741@flash.net> <carol1-2212961724430001@macip-ara-32.apple.com> <5a4re1$qfe@news.bctel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott wrote in article <5a4re1$qfe@news.bctel.net>... > carol1@apple.com (Andrew Carol) wrote: > >In article <32BDB8B6.5741@flash.net>, jasones@flash.net wrote: > > > >> 500Mhz DEC Alphas are already out, though its kinda pointless comparring > >> different processors by thier Mhz... > > > >Yea, but PPC chips have many more pins and come in brighter colors! > Nonesense! PPC chips sucks. I won't run a PMac since they run the shitty MacOS. IBM's PPC runs NT with nearly no applications available, and for the price of a System/6000(PPC CPU) running AIX I can get a SUN Sparc running Solaris with 50% more performance! PPC CPUs can eat shit.
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can I Convert Next .snd files to Mac sound files? Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 01:15:08 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <32C8D997.4FE1@earthlink.net> References: <32C8AC5A.3B76@cts.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: pnatona@cts.com You should be able to use GISO.app on NeXT to convert the files. You could also get SoundApp for the Mac and convert the file (it reads and converts to and from NeXT .snds). Both should be available at many shareware sites. I would imagine it wouldn't be too hard to find Hal sounds in any format all over the net. STEVE K. ************************************ “Sorry Bill, I don’t do Windows!” ************************************
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Games on NeXTstep (Was Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back!) Date: 31 Dec 1996 11:46:45 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5aauf5$ibc@gaea.titan.org> References: <32BA667C.403A@sfbayrun.com> <59f2t1$ohl@youth.yth> <59oq37$q7l@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5a2g5h$hu7@gaea.titan.org> <32c5d7fe.257162@pbinews.pacbell.net> timdx@pacbell.net (Jeff Dallacqua) wrote: > On 28 Dec 1996 06:53:37 GMT, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com > wrote: > > >For those who don't know, Trilobyte used NeXTstep to create 7th Guest > >and 11th Hour. Id used NeXTstep to create Doom and Quake. > > Weren't the video sequences for 7th Guest(and maybe 11th Hour) > done with 3DStudio(although I guess this doesn't necessarily mean > they didn't use NeXTstep for any of it)? I don't know what other tools they used - I would expect that the artwork components were probably created on some other platform. I was referring to the game engine (and presumably some custom tools that aided development). -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok Want NeXTstep user environment info? Check out http://www.omnigroup.com/People/andrew/MacUsersGuideToNEXTSTEP/
From: marron@tornado.shands.ufl.edu (John Marron) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Translating WP for Next to MS Word Date: 31 Dec 1996 14:19:56 GMT Organization: Shands Hospital Engineering Department Message-ID: <5ab7ec$rl1@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> I don't know if this is an appropriate group for this question, but if not I appologize in advance. Myt office has just switched from using NeXT workstations to using PCs running windows 95. MS word and Windows seem to be unable to open any of our old Woerd Perfect for Next files, and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions as to how we can access our old files? Windows won't even open the files using Note/Wordpad, and it seems that we can't even convert the files to plain text. Any adivce would be greatly appreciated. John Marron Dept of Pediatrics University of Florida marron@tornado.shands.ufl.edu
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Perl for NeXT? Date: 31 Dec 1996 16:14:29 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5abe55$1ro@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Is it freely available somewhere? Is it easy to install? Thanks, Lones .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. / L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \ / `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' ` Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 (617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax) lones@lones.mit.edu
From: Zachery Joseph Bir <zbir@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Perl for NeXT? Date: 31 Dec 1996 11:42:23 -0500 Organization: Very little Message-ID: <mbt681ihdhs.fsf@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> References: <5abe55$1ro@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) writes: > > Is it freely available somewhere? Is it easy to install? > Perl 5.003 is available as a NISH archive from: ftp://ftp.tiptop.com/pub/Objective/NeXT/Perl-5.003-3.X.pkg.tar I'm not sure when 5.004 will be released. Enjoy, Zac > Thanks, > Lones > > .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. > / L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \ > / `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' ` > Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 > (617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax) lones@lones.mit.edu -- Zachery J. Bir - zbir@indiana.edu http://seven.ucs.indiana.edu/~zbir/index.html
From: jinx6568@sover.net (Chris Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ Date: 31 Dec 1996 17:25:53 GMT Organization: Airwindows Distribution: inet Message-ID: <jinx6568-3112961227490001@news.sover.net> References: <32BD0901.48ED@sfbayrun.com> <59kdkl$ohd@news4.digex.net> <E2vBuB.22J@micmac.com> <abridge-2912961954310001@dcn133.dcn.davis.ca.us> <m3g20n915u.fsf@cygnus.horizoncomp.com> In article <m3g20n915u.fsf@cygnus.horizoncomp.com>, juvvadi@cygnus.horizoncomp.com (Ramana R. Juvvadi) wrote: > Even for a single user PC superuser makes sense. Whenever you are in > superuser mode you let your guard up. Whenever you are in user mode > you let your guard down and relax. Other was you can end up inadvertently > deleting your entire hard disk :-) Standard Mac (and very likely NeXT) response- "Sorry, you cannot remove the disk with the active system software from the desktop." "Sorry, the file 'The Microkernel' is in use and cannot be deleted." "Are you sure you want to delete all files on the disk 'My _other_ disk without the system files on it but with lots of important stuff on it'? (cancel) (OK)" And _cancel_ had better be the default answer returned if you instinctively clear the dialog box by hitting return... This having-to-be-on-guard-every-second might give a nice adrenaline rush and sense of great power and responsibility, but it's just not worth it. Note that you can still wipe the hard disk- _only_ if you are paying attention and confirm a message in plain language saying that that's what you're doing. Jinx_tigr (aka Chris Johnson)
From: darin@connectnet1.connectnet.com (Darin Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: macintosh, steve jobs, and next step are all back! Date: 31 Dec 1996 18:06:18 GMT Message-ID: <slrn5cilgn.pcq.darin@connectnet1.connectnet.com> References: <01bbef77$50776810$15818bce@djowens> <851275965mnewsachaney@voicenet.com> <59k1ke$5sr@news.Hawaii.Edu> <32BD3D7E.422C@sfbayrun.com> <32BDB8B6.5741@flash.net> <carol1-2212961724430001@macip-ara-32.apple.com> <5a4re1$qfe@news.bctel.net> <01bbf6ea$87569840$5813acce@chu.ipoline.com> >Nonesense! PPC chips sucks. I won't run a PMac since they run the shitty >MacOS. IBM's PPC runs NT with nearly no applications available, and for >the price of a System/6000(PPC CPU) running AIX I can get a SUN Sparc >running Solaris with 50% more performance! PPC CPUs can eat shit. Bravo, a well reasoned and erudite argument! You're not a member of Toastmaster's are you by any chance? -- Darin Johnson darin@connectnet.com
From: root@bytewarecafe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 32meg 70ns 72pin EDO simm for $140 Date: 31 Dec 1996 20:42:03 GMT Organization: bytewarecafe.com Message-ID: <5abtqr$82l@newman.pcisys.net> We are a new site on the internet and we can supply your hardware needs. As a promotion to get our name out to you, we are running a special promotion on 32Meg simms. For a very limited time, we are selling 32Meg/70ns EDO simms for just 140+shipping and handling, delivered to your door within 2-3 days. Just go to our site www.bytewarecafe.com and fill out the necessary information about yourself and your credit card information. Goto the products list and choose the memory item. From here, select the memory you want and click on the invoice button to see your total charges. If you wish to browse the other hardware categories, feel free to browse for as long as you wish. If you wish to buy anything else, just select that item from that category. If you are satisfied with your selection(s) and your personal information is correct, click on the submit order button. The bytewarecafe.com server will respond with an order number and a time stamp. You will need these two numbers for any future correspondences with bytewarecafe.com Your order will be prepared and delivered to your door within 2-3 days. Thank you.
From: root@bytewarecafe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 32meg 70ns 72pin EDO simm for $140 Date: 31 Dec 1996 20:42:02 GMT Organization: bytewarecafe.com Message-ID: <5abtqq$82l@newman.pcisys.net> We are a new site on the internet and we can supply your hardware needs. As a promotion to get our name out to you, we are running a special promotion on 32Meg simms. For a very limited time, we are selling 32Meg/70ns EDO simms for just 140+shipping and handling, delivered to your door within 2-3 days. Just go to our site www.bytewarecafe.com and fill out the necessary information about yourself and your credit card information. Goto the products list and choose the memory item. From here, select the memory you want and click on the invoice button to see your total charges. If you wish to browse the other hardware categories, feel free to browse for as long as you wish. If you wish to buy anything else, just select that item from that category. If you are satisfied with your selection(s) and your personal information is correct, click on the submit order button. The bytewarecafe.com server will respond with an order number and a time stamp. You will need these two numbers for any future correspondences with bytewarecafe.com Your order will be prepared and delivered to your door within 2-3 days. Thank you.
From: john_zollinger@arkona.com (John Zollinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AppleStep FAQs - dd 961230 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 21:51:19 GMT Organization: Arkona, LLC Message-ID: <32c98859.56332712@news.xmission.com> References: <5a7i1n$ch6@news3.digex.net> <5a9fb8$lme@gnus.wildfire.com> <cdoutyE3967s.8M0@netcom.com> cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) wrote: >In article <5a9fb8$lme@gnus.wildfire.com>, Tone <DoD> <DoD> wrote: >>NOTE: opinion follows BRACE YOURSELF >> >>Oh I _pray_ it will be Nextstep with minor embellishments borrowed from >>Apple. Anything else, and I will wonder if quality is somehow anathematic >>to success. In my paranoid mind, I fear that someone will swing the other >>way, cave in and copy the worst of Bill Gate's user interface "truths": > >Amen. Hallelujah! I second that! >The main reason I have stuck with NeXTSTEP since first scrounging up a >cube in 1991 was the UI. I wanted UNIX for sure, and that motivated my >original purchase, but this is the most beautiful UI I have ever used! > >Yes, NS can be improved with more keyboard/accessability features, etc. >but I think the user interaction is superior to existing Mac and >especially Windows/Motif systems. Let's hope there is a meeting of the >minds wrt to the "look and feel" of the new OS and the bulk of NS is >retained. Actually, a great deal of keyboard/accessability features are in OPENSTEP 4.x. Instead of just "nextText", you now use "nextKeyView" which can point to pretty much anything... buttons, browsers, etc. (subclasses of NSView). Cheers, John Zollinger Software Engineering Director Arkona, LLC john_zollinger@arkona.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9612311230.AA02069@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 96 13:30:40 +0100 Subject: AppleStep FAQs - updated 970101 HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF U, APPLE AND NeXT Fans and Supporters, this Year will be a GREAT ONE! I thought I'll contribute my share to this Tera-Event! ;-) This is to cover the most asked questions on the oncoming "AppleStep" Here are the "other" unofficial FAQs (my Opinion what Apple shoud do or Apple probably will do follow the Questions ;-) Most of this stuff might be history by January 7th, 1997, but this is so exciting that...., just read on: ------------------- AppleStep FAQs ------------------- ------------------- dd 97-01-01 ------------------- Q: What is the biggest advantage of the Apple/NeXT merger? A: The biggest advantage for Apple is the fact that you'll be able to build an application under "AppleStep" and deploy it on other platforms, like Solaris or WinNT (which are being held for the 2 most important Operating systems in the future (as Byte Magazine put it - Cover Story in '96). MHO: If Apple thinks about it, it also works the other way round. Since the actual OpenStep develoment with InterfaceBuilder supports WinNT look-and-feel (programmed with NeXT, but the finished programm looks like it has never ever seen any other platform than Windows), it might also support Solaris "look and feel". Then think of Solaris or NT devolopers just checking another field in the Apple/OpenStep enviroment and have versions of their Apps for AppleStep, Solaris and NT handy in one go! Apple should put most of its concentration on this goal, as the AppleStep OS gets ready!! Just also think of "AppleStep" running natively on Intel P7 , UltraSparc's 2 or picoJava / ultraJava - CPUs. Apple will be jamming with this!! Q: Will my 680x0-Apple run the new "AppleStep" OS?? A: Probably not. Apple's CTO Ellen Hancock pointed out that the Mk68-Apple will not be running the new OS, since Apple has to concentrate his 150 men (100 from NeXT, 50 from Apple) on the PowerMac and on the PPCplatform (formerly known as PreP or CHRP (Common Hardware Reference platform)), the PowerPC-spec. MHO: Apple might do a port to 68k - machines (if they have spare time ;-), but don't count on it, since the MacOS System 7.x will be enhanced and supported until 1998. So Apple does run on 2 tracks until then. Q: Will my 040 - NeXT run the new "AppleStep" OS?? A: No, Apple has enough work to do with its different iterations of PowerMac-machines. As far as the NeXT-OS OpenStep for Mach 4.1 is concerned, it will be kept up to date says Avie Tevanian, new head of the Apple Software Dev. Dept. MHO: Never will, sorry! I have got a lot of black boxes myself...... Q: What's the os-kernel base of "AppleStep"?? A: Apple is not firm on that one, at least what it says officially. It remains to be seen what really happens at the core of "AppleStep". Ellen Hancock talked about the fact that the NeXTengineers did a good job removing Unix from the core of the NeXT-OS. MHO: Ellen Hancock probably means that the kernel of Openstep got an abstract new form that doesn't to much resemble the normal Unix kernel formally known as Mach. (Remember when NeXTWORLD magazine talked about ObjectSoup ???) We might see a fundamentally new core for the Mac, since I still have NeXTengineers laughter in my ears, when I asked them for OpenStep on MacOS at ObjectWorld 95 in August 1995 in SF. In that "ask the engineers"-sesson, they told the audience, that Quote: "MacOS isn't good enough to put anything on top on..... it doesn't support anything!" Q: What will the GUI of "AppleStep" look like?? A: It will probably resemble today's MacOS-look a lot, since Avie Tevanian said he doesn't want to aliennize current MaC-Users away! MHO: In its first iteration (beta in July97) it will look like OpenStep, but later on in its final version in late 1997 it will more resemble the MacGUI or some new mixture... But the GUI could be anything, if Steve will convince Gil Amelio, it might even be that the GUI will really have something new that PC-Software Copycats can copy from Apple. (Take a close look to the icons on Win95 windows, they are copied from the NeXT environment, already) Since the actual OpenStep develoment with InterfaceBuilder supports WinNT look-and-feel (programmed with NeXT, but the finished programm looks like it has never ever seen any other platform than Windows), one will probably see the first Apple GUI to do so. Even a command-bar like Win95 features is possible (The OpenStep for Mach 4.0 sneak-preview at ObjectWorld 95 in SF done by NeXT has also shown one for Openstep (though history teaches us it turned out later that it wasn't used and now is called a design-study). Speech-recognition is another feature that Steve Jobs might push into "AppleStep", since he always craves for the best of all he can get hold of. (NeXT has been living that, big screens since 1989, 2.88MB-Floppy, the Object-oriented environment that Taligent tried to produce for Apple & IBM all these years.....) Let me state a quote by Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news at this place: "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Q: Will "AppleStep" have all the features waited on for so long, like SMP, memory-protection, performance and stability also found in BeOS?? A: Yes, it will be based on the NeXT technology with Apple technology like Quicktime and others grafted on top. MHO: Yes, NeXTSTEP is a lot more mature then BeOS is today and it's network-ready and Internet-savy. (BTW: The WorldWideWeb has been created by Tim-Berners Lee of CERN, CH entirely on NeXTSTEP) There also is a lot of Software available on NeXTSTEP, shrinkwrap or custom-made. Companies like StoneDesign (www.stone.com) with Create or AFS with PasteUp and their trading-systems for NewYork stockmarket brokers or OneVison with his great DTP-package (www.onevision.de) have already done superior products, while Be is just at the beginning. (To quote Gil Amelio: We had to choose between soloution A and B. We chose A instead of BE!) As a WordPerfect representative put it in 1992, Quote: "NeXT has the best and most stable OS (NeXTSTEP 2.1) there is. I've never seen something like it. Prepare to receive a rock-solid Apple-OS! (Avie Tenavian does it again!) Q: What's the timeline?? A: MacOS System 7.x will get 2 updates, one in January 1997 and one in July 1997 (with the new looking GUI formerly referred to as the Copeland GUI). "AppleStep" will come out in a beta-release available for developers at the WWDC (World-Wide Developer Conference) in July 1997, followed by the final UserVersion at the end of 1997. Later in 1998 System-7-support will be added to "AppleStep". Q: Symetrical Multiprocessing (SMP) isn't implemented by NeXT yet. How come that Apple is so confident about "AppleStep" having SMP? A: Avie Tenavian has stated that implementing symetrical multiprocessing (SMP) into "AppleStep" will take about 3 months work. MHO: Mach already features support for SMP and even the first NeXTcube in 1988 was build by NeXT with SMP in mind. NeXT already had NeXTSTEP running SMP on 2 PPC 601 running at 50Mhz on their NeXTbrick prototype in 1992..... So this shouldn't be a problem. Q: NeXT Computer Inc, had a couple of SMP-prototype machines based on a PPC with 50Mhz in 1992/1993.. What happend to it, and who holds the rights and the knowledge to it? A: When NeXT had to drop their Hardware plans in the beginning of 1993 because of Apple & IBM putting pressure on Motorola, not to serve NeXT but Apple first (their HarwarePPC-design was still in the works until 1994) Canon got the rights to all the future NeXTHardware, like the NeXTbrick and them Nitros (68040 - 40 Mhz - NeXTs)! Then a new startup company, called FirePower (they consisted of 150 People coming from NeXT, Canon and Apple) got the rights to the hardware. This year, in February 1996, FirePower introduced the FirePower AustinPowerPlay^2, the spiritual descendent of the NeXTbrick, which was running WinNT on 2 PPCs as an SMP machine. FirePower said, that as soon as the PPCplatform spec. (formally known as PreP or CHRP - PPC Common Hardware Reference Platform) is finally set, it would be able to bring a Computer to market based on this new spec., within 4 weeks! Later down the road, Motorola aquired FirePower, so thats were the rights and the knowledge is today.... I am not sure if their (Motorolas) new MacOS-Clones are based on this design ( I believe not!). But the prototyes build by NeXT, I believe their were 4 of them, are sitting at some NeXTengineers home, which did port at least NeXTSTEP 3.3 on it in their spare time. MHO: But the Apple Halo machine with the Exponentials bipolar X704 - 500Mhz will bring Joy to the Apple / NeXT community. Maybe it will even be an SMP - Machine. Who knows????? ;-) Q: Who will port its Software to "AppleStep"?? A: Since the Metrowerks compiler for the MacOS, which accounts for 55,000 or 90% of the MacDevelopers using it, will be readily ported when the beta-release of "AppleStep" comes available in July 1997, there should not be any problem with general Software availability by the end of 1997, when the User will receive the final "AppleStep"-OS. NeXT already works together with Netscape on new software for serving the Internet, Sun and Javasoft pledged support, Apple's Claris will do port and Adobe will lift all of his products on "AppleStep" as soon as possible, it's chairman said. That means you will at least see the Navigator, Photoshop 4.x, Premiere 4.x, FrameMaker 5.x and Illustrator 6.x on "AppleStep" by the end of the year 1997. MHO: Chances are that you will also see Microsofts Office 97 on "AppleStep", because Microsoft has a strong position on the MacPlatform, it would like to hold. And they will do so, that's for sure! Secondly Metrowerks pledged to produce Plug-ins for InterfaceBuilder with their products, so this should close even the last gap between Apple and NeXT development enviroments, having Mac-stylish buttons and windows to build Apps with. Q: What products will be ported to "AppleStep" coming from NeXT 3rd Party developers A: Products that will be available are the following (dd-961231): The DTP-prgramm PasteUp 2.6 and 3.0 & the WriteUp - Word processor, and Cambridge Animations ANIMO - a cartoon creating programm from the UK! Furthermore Stone Design will port it's fine products to "AppleStep", like Create 4.x, DataPhile and its 3D-Modeler-Software. MHO: The biggest Developer for OpenStep and NeXTSTEP products, Lighthouse Design has become a Sun Microsystems Subdivision. Its new JavaPlan beta software Programm is full, and will be introduced this January. It's App-Icon looks like it will run under OpenStep. And rumors have it that Sun bought Lighthouse, to port all the OpenStep Products to Java!! But I believe Sun and Javasofts announced support doses mean that their nice products like Concurrence, Diagram, OmniWeb, OpenWrite, ParaSheet, Quantrix, TaskMaster, VarioData, WetPaint among others will be ported to "AppleStep" ASAP (as soon as possible) or run under Java atop of "AppleStep" My personal whishes for "AppleStep" are: Pixars SMP-version of Interactive Renderman (normal ver. shipped earlier with the NeXTOS), Improv 2.x (Lotus left the Apple Software Scene long time ago, maybe they will come back to face their fears and tackle Excel.) SoftWindows NT for AppleStep (just to be sure ;-) SGI's OpenGL - librarys Q: What about other platforms, since NeXTSTEP / OpenStep natively also runs on Intel and entry-level SunSparcs today?? A: Apple wanted to be sure to be able to also move to other platforms if the PowerPC fails to grab the market share it deserves. NeXT was the best choice they could have made, keeping this in mind. MHO: Since IBM isn't to sure about the PPC either, that is leaving only Motorola with having nothing to loose, Apple should think about its OS-future and also port it to other platforms. Prepare to see Apples 64bit-verison of "AppleStep" to eventually also run on Intels Merced (P7) and on Suns new UltraSparc2-ATX-boards. But the PowerPC's success does depend mostly on the success of the new "AppleStep" since Apple accounts for the most sold systems since the PPC-CPU saw the light. Also prepare to see a lot of great new Apple Hardware since Apple does not want to leave the high-end market entirely to clone makers which are normally the first (not anymore in 1997) to introduce the high-end-CPUs before Apple does. Just imagine a 300Mhz-portable Apple PowerBook based on the 603e, and a PPC-platform-spec.based Apple PowerPC with two X704 - Exponential - Chips running at 500Mhz each, using a 100Mhz PCI- Bus running the new MacOS "AppleStep" at speeds only Alpha-Chip users are used to! And then, these Systems are being able to use the Multi-bootloader ROM incooperated on the PowerPCplatform spec. So while AppleStep has to come to existence first (while you wait): You are able to boot from a multi-OS partioned harddisk with Apple's System 7.x / WinNT / Solaris 2.x until "AppleStep" comes to live! Isn't that something?? Q: Do Apple share's go up after Jan. 7th, 1997?? A: Apple wasn't available for any comment. MHO: Yes, as Apple's plans are revealed by this date, WallStreet will finally realize the downright boldness of Apple & NeXT's merger announced on Dec. 20th, 1996. To talk NeXTSTEP here: #import <usual_disclaimer.h> ------------------- AppleStep FAQs ------------------- ------------------- dd 97-01-01 ------------------- Copyleft: "AppleStep" is just a name to call it before Apple officialy gives it a name. (The confusion about the naming of the future MacOS made it to be a hybrid system, which it is not, nor Mac(h)OS, NeXTstep, NeXTSTEP, NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, OpenStep for Mach, , etc. (so many differnet names which are confusing for NeXT-newbies! ;-) Reporters got them all mixed up. ------------------- EOF ------------------- Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 --- REAL Computing is b(l)ack stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail, MIME and ASCII) with AppleSTEP! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news
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From: john_zollinger@arkona.com (John Zollinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Perl for NeXT? Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 22:36:30 GMT Organization: Arkona, LLC Message-ID: <32c994f8.1028248@news.xmission.com> References: <5abe55$1ro@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) wrote: >Is it freely available somewhere? Is it easy to install? Perl 5.0001 is included as part of OPENSTEP for Mach. You can also (usually) find the latest build of Perl in the archives. If you have some programming knowledge, it is also pretty easy to get the latest source and compile and install it. Good luck, John Zollinger Software Engineering Director Arkona, LLC john_zollinger@arkona.com
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CedarWord vs. WordPerfect Date: 1 Jan 1997 06:55:17 GMT Organization: University of California, San Diego Message-ID: <5ad1ol$csc@news1.ucsd.edu> A further note on the new CedarWord word processor (available at "http://www.cedar.co.uk/download.htm"). CW has a great advantage over WordPerfect in that one can use the NeXT Keyboard.app for keymapping and designing one's own keyboard with e.g. Greek letters or mathematical symbols immediately available via the Alt and Shift/Alt keys. This is because CW uses rtf format, while WP recognizes only its own keyboards, which cannot be remapped for alternate characters. CW will thus be an outstanding word processor for technical writing, as soon as it gets a Find/Replace capability using superscripted and subscripted characters (as WP now has). -- H. Craig passim@helium.ucsd.edu
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ Followup-To: alt.flame Date: 31 Dec 1996 05:34:56 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs-nope-nomail@vampire.science.gmu.edu Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5aa8m0$20q@portal.gmu.edu> References: <32BD0901.48ED@sfbayrun.com> <abridge-2912961954310001@dcn133.dcn.davis.ca.us> <5a99so$3ns@news.tuwien.ac.at> <5a9gmm$qfe@news.bctel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: Ack this is SPAM In article <too many to make sense>, <lots of people wrote> wrote: >>>>> [deleted] This thread has turned into a Holy War and is really approaching total SPAM status... I have no idea who the fool was who included every newsgroup in comp.* on it, but it's outta hand, if you're even THINKING of following up, please use your brain and not just a button on a screen. Email works wonders, in case you've forgotten... Me -- ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail, MIME) Tim Scanlon tfs@epic.org (PGP key aval.) crypto is good Seal Technologies Inc. I own my own words
From: Mark Pappas Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Internet Software for the NeXT Date: 1 Jan 1997 01:41:48 GMT Organization: The Gulf Coast Internet Company Message-ID: <5acfcs$2bv@cobia.gulf.net> Hi All, Well I'm a proud owner of a NeXTstation I have had for a little over a month and seem to have it working pretty good on the net thanks to alot of help from the newsgroups. Now I'm looking for somes advise on software for OpenStep 4.1. What do people feel are the best: Web Browser News Reader IRC Client POP E-mail Package and anything else people feel someone should have to round out a complete internet system. Please e-mail mpd@gulf.net. Thanks Mark Pappas
From: Paul Naton <pnatona@cts.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HOW DO I CONVERT NEXT FONTS TO MAC TYPE 1? Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 18:23:17 -0800 Organization: CTS Network Services Message-ID: <32C9CA8F.2842@cts.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any way to convert NeXT fonts into mac Type 1 fonts? I converted all of my adobe fonts from mac to Next years ago using Metamorphosis Pro. I would like to use some of those cool Fatted Cow fonts I use all the time ported from my Next to my new Power Computing Mac. There must be a way! Help me! Big NeXT and Mac Fan Paul Naton Maximum Graphixs pnatona@cts.com
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From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Black vs. White Date: 1 Jan 97 00:34:23 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.advocacy Does anyone have any specific specs on the speed differences between Black and White hardware running Nextstep? I'm thinking of speeddifferences between an '040 turbo cube and something like a 166MHz Pentium. Mitch
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From: wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de (Wolfgang Keller) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 07:01:58 +0100 Organization: Customer of EUnet Germany; Info: info@Germany.EU.net Distribution: inet Message-ID: <19970101070158114990@peu1-115.m.eunet.de> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <carol1-2212961927330001@macip-ara-153.apple.com> <32be96c1.37286449@news.sover.net> <32BE991D.7AB7@sfbayrun.com> <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> <AEED18A9-17E66@207.158.13.7> X-no-archive: yes David Every <dke@adnc.com> wrote: > Except that Apple HAS PMT for low level tasks and drivers... its only > the app layer that doesn't have this PMT. And garanteed time seems to > work better on the MacOS's low-level stuff than on Windows from what > I've seen... if you doubt me, just watch the mouse and do different > things on both systems. The Mac almost NEVER stutters - Windoze does > all the time. Sorry, I've worked quite a lot with both Wintel and Macs (and several Unix-dialects). And I've seen lots of Macs who take half a minute or more to react (or even to not react at all, just one example: Eudora's 'you have new mail' and as long as you don't press 'Ok', your Mac stands still) to simple actions like mouseclicks to close a window and such. The MacOS is imho (from a user standpoint of vue) definitely _anything else_ but _not_ RT. > I don't know... Timbuktu and Apps like that seem to do a pretty damn > good job. (arguably better than X). Errr, here I also have to disagree. Under Unix, _any_ application can be run remotely and i/o can be redirected to _any_ Xserver running on _any_ other machine as long as there's an Xserver available for it. In fact, running applications remotely is the normal procedure in networks of unix workstations, just because there are very often less workstations than users (in university computer networks) or if some software only runs on special platforms or if an application needs more cpu power than the standard desktop workstations have. Under MacOS, running applications remotely is not a standard built-in feature of the OS, and it is not reasonable to do this (via third-part utilities) either (for standard applications) because there is no possibility at all to work with more than one user at a time on a Mac. Running applications remotely doesn't make any sense on a single-user OS. F'up2 set. -- Wolfgang Keller An Apple (tm) a day wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de keeps the trouble away
From: Paul_Lynch@griffin.plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AppleStep FAQs - updated 970101 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 05:56:42 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1997Jan1.055642.25369@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <9612311230.AA02069@huelf.hamburg.com> In article <9612311230.AA02069@huelf.hamburg.com> writes: > Q: > What products will be ported to "AppleStep" coming from NeXT 3rd > Party developers > > A: > Products that will be available are the following (dd-961231): > The DTP-prgramm PasteUp 2.6 and 3.0 & the WriteUp - Word processor, > and Cambridge Animations ANIMO - a cartoon creating programm from > the UK! > Furthermore Stone Design will port it's fine products to > "AppleStep", like Create 4.x, DataPhile and its 3D-Modeler-Software. You will also see Mesa, the most widely used NeXTSTEP spreadsheet. Our recent release (in beta) of a new NeXTSTEP version with a completely redesigned UI is the first step in this process. We will also release a new version later this year with additional features. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: Paul_Lynch@griffin.plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet Software for the NeXT Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 06:02:28 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1997Jan1.060228.25447@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <5acfcs$2bv@cobia.gulf.net> In article <5acfcs$2bv@cobia.gulf.net> Mark Pappas writes: > Now I'm looking for somes advise on software for OpenStep 4.1. What do people feel are the best: > > Web Browser OmniWeb or NetSurfer. Both are good, but in recent months I woudl have said that OmniWeb has pulled ahead. > News Reader Lots of these. None are perfect, but all of the new ones are good. NewsGrazer (old; don't use this), RadicalNews, Alexandra, Kiwi, NewsFLash and NutNews. > IRC Client I thought someone was working on one of these? It was called: Encircle. > POP E-mail Package PopOver. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: Paul_Lynch@griffin.plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 06:06:41 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Distribution: inet Message-ID: <1997Jan1.060641.25513@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <5a9g2m$lti@gnus.wildfire.com> In article <5a9g2m$lti@gnus.wildfire.com> tone@wildfire.com (Tone <DoD>) writes: > In article <5a950s$frj@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan > M. Urban) writes: > >In article <5a7mar$510@huffalump.visi.com>, dwy@ace.net (David Young) > wrote: > > > >> Basing anything on X incurs heavy ease-of-use penalties. > > > >Disagree. It is theoretically possible to implement DPS on top of X, > >for example. Then it will look exactly like NEXTSTEP and behave almost > >the same, and you can interface to it identically using the AppKit. In > >fact this is more than theory; the GNUstep project is implementing this. Interestingly enough, Solaris OpenStep (Neo) also does this. There are times using it when the screen colour just look awful, and I presume this is the result of using the incredibly idiotic X colour model. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Black vs. White Date: 1 Jan 1997 06:39:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5ad0qj$k8e@news.digifix.com> References: <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226> In-Reply-To: <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226> On 12/31/96, "Mitchell Allen" wrote: >Does anyone have any specific specs on the speed differences between Black >and White hardware running Nextstep? I'm thinking of speeddifferences >between an '040 turbo cube and something like a 166MHz Pentium. > While I don't have any hard data to provide, the 133MHz Pentium that I'm currently working on is noticibly faster than the 040 Turbo Slab that I have been using for the past few years. I wish I was able to run it on the Pentium Pro 200 sitting next to it (alas, it is serving other duties). :-) -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: rhayden@next.com (Ronald Hayden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Info on NeXT needed Date: 1 Jan 1997 08:23:39 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5ad6ub$dd8@news.next.com> References: <32BC7E21.3A47@cc.umanitoba.ca> In article <32BC7E21.3A47@cc.umanitoba.ca> Spiro Philopoulos <umphilop@cc.umanitoba.ca> writes: > Hi > I'm a MacOS user and I've just read about the Apple-NeXT merger and > that the new MacOS will use some elements of NeXT step. I've read some > stuff about NeXTstep and that it is based on Mach but I was wondering > if somebody could point me to where I can find more info(general and > technical) on the Next OS. > Thanks. You can find out about all of NeXT's publications at: http://www.next.com/Pubs -- Ron Hayden
From: nervous@system.net (Nervous) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: macintosh, steve jobs, and next step are all back! Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 05:33:44 -0500 Organization: Central Nervous System Distribution: inet Message-ID: <nervous-ya02408000R0101970533440001@news.netrover.com> References: <01bbef77$50776810$15818bce@djowens> <851275965mnewsachaney@voicenet.com> <59k1ke$5sr@news.Hawaii.Edu> <32BD3D7E.422C@sfbayrun.com> <32BDB8B6.5741@flash.net> <carol1-2212961724430001@macip-ara-32.apple.com> <5a4re1$qfe@news.bctel.net> <01bbf6ea$87569840$5813acce@chu.ipoline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <01bbf6ea$87569840$5813acce@chu.ipoline.com>, "Frank Chu" <chu@ipoline.com> wrote: €Scott wrote in article <5a4re1$qfe@news.bctel.net>... €> carol1@apple.com (Andrew Carol) wrote: €> >In article <32BDB8B6.5741@flash.net>, jasones@flash.net wrote: €> > €> >> 500Mhz DEC Alphas are already out, though its kinda pointless €comparring €> >> different processors by thier Mhz... €> > €> >Yea, but PPC chips have many more pins and come in brighter colors! €> € €Nonesense! PPC chips sucks. I won't run a PMac since they run the shitty €MacOS. IBM's PPC runs NT with nearly no applications available, and for €the price of a System/6000(PPC CPU) running AIX I can get a SUN Sparc €running Solaris with 50% more performance! PPC CPUs can eat shit. Typical usenet wanker. Why don't you crosspost to more ngs. Let's see...you've covered Linux, Amiga, Windows, Mac, Unix and NeXT. Fucking wanker. -- Steve Jobs on 'Meile' washers and dryers - "They are really wonderfully made and one of the few products we've bought over the last few years that we're all really happy about. These guys really thought the process through. They did such a great job designing these washers and dryers. I got more thrill out of them than I have out of any piece of high tech in years."
From: "Karl Thomas" <karlt@ilinks.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Date: 1 Jan 1997 08:37:20 GMT Organization: Zip News Message-ID: <01bbf7be$ddc14b60$84c289ce@ns1.ilinks.net> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <carol1-2212961927330001@macip-ara-153.apple.com> <32be96c1.37286449@news.sover.net> <32BE991D.7AB7@sfbayrun.com> <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> <AEED18A9-17E66@207.158.13.7> <19970101070158114990@peu1-115.m.eunet.de> Wolfgang Keller <wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de> wrote in article <19970101070158114990@peu1-115.m.eunet.de>... > X-no-archive: yes > > David Every <dke@adnc.com> wrote: > > > Except that Apple HAS PMT for low level tasks and drivers... its only > > the app layer that doesn't have this PMT. And garanteed time seems to > > work better on the MacOS's low-level stuff than on Windows from what > > I've seen... if you doubt me, just watch the mouse and do different > > things on both systems. The Mac almost NEVER stutters - Windoze does > > all the time. > > Sorry, I've worked quite a lot with both Wintel and Macs (and several > Unix-dialects). And I've seen lots of Macs who take half a minute or > more to react (or even to not react at all, just one example: Eudora's > 'you have new mail' and as long as you don't press 'Ok', your Mac stands > still) to simple actions like mouseclicks to close a window and such. In another post, I already clarified this. The Mac has no PMT. He's confusing interrupt based processing with PMT. > Under MacOS, running applications remotely is not a standard built-in > feature of the OS, and it is not reasonable to do this (via third-part > utilities) either (for standard applications) because there is no > possibility at all to work with more than one user at a time on a Mac. > Running applications remotely doesn't make any sense on a single-user > OS. While I agree that the idea of running applications remotely on a single user system is not the same as running an app remotely using X, I wouldn't go as far as saying running apps remotely doesn't make any sense on a single user system. If you're on the road and you might need to access your desktop remotely or take advantage of resources that aren't available on your laptop. Also from a tech support standpoint (part of my job) it's a lot easier to just connect to another user's PC using PCAnywhere and troubleshoot than asking the user "double click on this, what do you see?","What does the screen say when you do this?".
Message-ID: <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 08:47:33 -0500 From: Arnold Shore <ashore@dgs.dgsys.com> Organization: STG, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Counter question: Why bother with Acrobat and PDF? If (big if!) your primary intent is to develop a web site, then products pointed towards that capability would be a better solution, MS's FrontPage being a good example. Arnold Shore Annapolis, MD
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Date: 1 Jan 1997 15:16:19 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5adv43$8ke@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <carol1-2212961927330001@macip-ara-153.apple.com> <32be96c1.37286449@news.sover.net> <32BE991D.7AB7@sfbayrun.com> <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> In-Reply-To: <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> On 12/30/96, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > Another, much more improtant disadvantage of the NeXT OS is imho the > fact that the GUI is afaik not based on X. The capability to run _ANY_ > (even GUI) application remotely through a network via the standard X > protocol (which allows access to these applications from any client OS > as long as there is an X server available for it) is one main advantage > of Unix systems over _ANY_ other current OS. > You don't know what you're talking about, do you? Most users regard the fact that the native NeXT GUI isn't based on X as an *advantage* -- read up on Display PostScript before debating this point further. As for remote viewing of applications: myhost% rsh remotehost [...] remotehost /NextApps/Edit.app/Edit -NXHost myhost & There is one main area of concern with NeXT's implementation of remote -viewing, namely that the protocol has no idea of user IDs, so you either get access to the screen or you don't, there's no "you only get access if you're in mygroup" for example. If you want to run X, then there are X applications available. If you really want to, you could run OpenStep on Solaris, which runs DPS atop X. As for an "important disadvantage"... well, clearly lack of remote viewing has seriously impeded the growth of the market for other OSes which don't have this feature, such as Windows and Windows95... errm, what was that, it hasn't..? Oh well... and M$ stuff isn't based on X either...? ho hum... Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: jabaker@grail.cba.csuohio.edu (jason) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: 01 Jan 1997 11:12:08 -0500 Organization: Cleveland State University Sender: jason@jlbaker.async.csuohio.edu Message-ID: <vohf9idd0.fsf@jlbaker.async.csuohio.edu> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nk87$a7o@news.internetmci.com> In-reply-to: JOSE_M@internetMCI.com's message of 24 Dec 1996 03:55:51 GMT In article <59nk87$a7o@news.internetmci.com> JOSE_M@internetMCI.com writes: That message don't make any since.....<scratching head> all e-mail is text only... how can you hide a binary file in ascii format??? you can't unless that tag a file with a text and then you have to run i manualy...... Can't you see that that you yourself are propagating this internet message virus which has already infected 35 newsgroups? Jason
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Who invented what? - here: 2.88MB - 3.5" Floppy drives Date: 30 Dec 1996 06:27:00 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5a7nbk$edj@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <9612291709.AA01445@huelf.hamburg.com> In article <9612291709.AA01445@huelf.hamburg.com>, Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> wrote: >Steve Jobs invented the 2.88 netto (/ 4.0 brutto) >ED - 3.5" Floppy drives! ;-) I got the impression that Sony and Toshiba were the first to release this perpendicular recording technology to the general public, not Steve Jobs. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
Message-ID: <32CAB150.1C44@ebs.ac.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 12:47:44 -0600 From: Eric Ulmer <ulmerer@ebs.ac.com> Organization: ServiceNet, LLC. Andersen/BBN MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Black vs. White References: <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226> <5ad0qj$k8e@news.digifix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott Anguish wrote: > > On 12/31/96, "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > >Does anyone have any specific specs on the speed differences between Black > >and White hardware running Nextstep? I'm thinking of speeddifferences > >between an '040 turbo cube and something like a 166MHz Pentium. > > > > While I don't have any hard data to provide, the 133MHz Pentium that > I'm currently working on is noticibly faster than the 040 Turbo Slab that I > have been using for the past few years. > > I wish I was able to run it on the Pentium Pro 200 sitting next to > it (alas, it is serving other duties). :-) > > > > -- > Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS > sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com I did a little research on the 68040 speed and looked at various sites which published SpecMarks on various hardware platforms, and Just CPU alone the 68040 ranks about even with a 486/66. The NeXT runs a different/faster bus than the PC, however. But even So, I would suspect on most things you'll be running 2X+ on the Pentium. Several people at work questioned why I recently bought an 040 box when I already have a Dual P133 system, as they run NS on Intel. My response "Because I always wanted one, and they're cool"
From: "Eren Kotan" <Eren_Kotan@next.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Black vs. White Date: 1 Jan 1997 19:26:37 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <01bbf81b$3990d8a0$102c1281@demoroom> References: <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226> Mitchell Allen <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226>... > Does anyone have any specific specs on the speed differences between Black > and White hardware running Nextstep? I'm thinking of speeddifferences > between an '040 turbo cube and something like a 166MHz Pentium. Well, I use both platforms here at work, and home; not surprising, really ;-} Generally speaking, black hardware is slower but very stable, white hardware can be extremely fast but unless you put it together carefully, with supported devices, and high quality components, they can be rather unstable. If money is not tight, you can put together an excellent PC which will outperform black boxes and be (nearly) as stable. What did you want to know, specifically? Compile speed? Graphics performance? IO? Let me know. Regards, Eren --- Eren Kotan - Eren_Kotan@next.com NeXT Software UK Limited ObjectLine Support
From: me@myhost.carleton.edu (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Netkit SSL plug-in for OmniWeb or Netsurfer? Date: 1 Jan 1997 19:41:39 GMT Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA Message-ID: <5aeelj$ei1@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Is there something equivalent to Netkit SSL plug-in for either OmniWeb or NetSurfer? This is what NetSurfer said was missing when I tried to login to a stock trading site.
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970102.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19961209.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19961216.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 02 Jan 1997 00:00:00 -0700 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Video editing software -Black Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 21:41:27 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <5aelm7$jai@news.wco.com> References: <19961230155500.KAA10749@ladder01.news.aol.com> antonmanor@aol.com (AntonManor) wrote: >Is there any out there Not yet... Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How do I Network Colorstation to Power Mac via ethernet? Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 00:22:37 -0700 Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <jak-ya023680000201970022380001@news.asu.edu> References: <32C8AE54.7ED8@cts.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Please forward me any responses you get on this. I am also interested, especially in the printing aspect, such as whether I could print from my Mac to the NeXT's printer. thanks john --- - ------- ------- You're not going crazy, you're going sane in a crazy world! - The Tick jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/
From: jabaker@grail.cba.csuohio.edu (jason) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <vohf9idd0.fsf@jlbaker.async.csuohio.edu> Control: cancel <vohf9idd0.fsf@jlbaker.async.csuohio.edu> Date: 1 Jan 1997 22:11:56 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <5aenfc$7jr@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> This article canceled.
From: keefner@primenet.com (Craig A. Keefner) Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: 1 Jan 1997 16:02:02 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <32ca9679.31095302@news.primenet.com> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> On Wed, 01 Jan 1997 08:47:33 -0500, Arnold Shore <ashore@dgs.dgsys.com> wrote: >Counter question: Why bother with Acrobat and PDF? > >If (big if!) your primary intent is to develop a web site, then products >pointed towards that capability would be a better solution, MS's >FrontPage being a good example. "my" website includes a major airline which has financial reports that legal prefers are displayed in one look and one look only. html cannot approach it. Thus pdf files or java applets (of ms documents). Craig
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Calendar and scheduling apps Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 17:04:31 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32CB6B8F.4F69@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5af43n$8bu@ralph.vnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: timothy@acm.org Timothy R Mills wrote: > > What kind of calendar/schedule/group scheduling software exists for > NEXTSTEP? What are the features and costs? Is there anything besides > PencilMeIn? daily planner application - Chronographer 0.85 Dwight Everhart everhart@alterlife.com ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/productivity/Chronographer.0.85.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/calendars/Chronographer.0.85.NIHS.b.tar.gz group scheduling - Pencil Me In http://www.sarrus.com/PencilMeIn.html http://www.sarrus.com/FTP.html
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Video editing software -Black Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 23:48:58 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <5aet59$ms9@news.wco.com> References: <19961230155500.KAA10749@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5aelm7$jai@news.wco.com> mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) wrote: >antonmanor@aol.com (AntonManor) wrote: >>Is there any out there >Not yet... Mrphlpth... Lemme get my foot out of my mouth. For NEXTSTEP, you might want to look at ScreenMachineII and MovieMachine, sold by Optimal Object (http://www.optimal-object.com/) These are pretty slick little products, with capture hardware for the Intel platform, and the ability to produce QuickTime/NeXTIME movies. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701012307.PAA22899@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 230d8d49b957d005f42033e93bbcef97 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 97 18:06:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Internet Software for the NeXT Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 230d8d49b957d005f42033e93bbcef97 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Mark Pappas Original Date: 1 Jan 1997 01:41:48 GMT Message-ID: 230d8d49b957d005f42033e93bbcef97 - > Web Browser OmniWeb is the free one, and very good. ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.1.5/OmniWeb.2.1.5.N.tar.gz > News Reader always an argument on this one.... checkout http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/newsreaders.html and you can find them all in one easy location > IRC Client The only one I know of: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/misc/Encircle.0.11.NIHS.b.tar.gz > POP E-mail Package ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/PopOver.v1.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gzftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/PopOver.v1.5.README TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Netkit SSL plug-in for OmniWeb or Netsurfer? Date: 2 Jan 1997 07:59:13 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5afpsh$6nh@gaea.titan.org> References: <5aeelj$ei1@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> me@myhost.carleton.edu (My Account) wrote: > Is there something equivalent to Netkit SSL plug-in for either OmniWeb or > NetSurfer? > This is what NetSurfer said was missing when I tried to login to a stock > trading site. See http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/2/Download.html for a pointer to such a beast for OmniWeb. I suspect there's one around somewhere for Netsurfer as well. (Your mail headers are messed up, so I couldn't send you email directly.) --- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: eelco_houwink@spidernet.nl (Eelco Houwink) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Date: 2 Jan 1997 08:21:27 GMT Organization: WorldCom Distribution: inet Message-ID: <199701020924551543635@p006.gor.euronet.nl> References: <AEE62125-47C3C@207.93.51.91> Benjamin Smith <benjs@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > There are some Windows advocates that are so ruggedly pro-Microsoft's tough > business, anti-competitive practices and have a general philosophy that MS > just competes fairly and Apple/NeXT/Microsoft all have the same agenda: to > make money. They don't see the degrees. They don't see how one company may > want to make huge margins but also has a higher standard to their design > and are creative or innovative and the other is primarily interested in > dominating market share and their products are a result of that desire to > dominate. That's the problem. No, that's not. The problem is that a company - whichever high standards it has - failing to market its innovation well, will keep struggling and in the end may cease to exist. While everybody focuses at the tech issues of the OpenMacStep-to-be-Next thing, the market is shaken because the beast even doesn't have its name, let alone its features set. -- Yours Sincerely, Eelco Houwink eelco_houwink@spidernet.nl
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Core Apple Issues for '97 Message-ID: <8CF2313.09B800000C.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 96 13:07:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Core Issues for Apple in the New Year 12/30/96 Los Angeles Times (Home Edition) For Apple, 1996 was the corporate equivalent of a system crash and restart. A year ago, the papers were rife with rumors of who would buy Apple for a fire-sale price before the company went down in flames, as did a couple of batteries in its PowerBooks. As usual, rumors of Apple's demise proved premature. Defying naysayers yet again, Apple is making it to 1997 with a modest head of steam--a small third- quarter profit, optimistic holiday sales reports and the return of the prodigal son, Steve Jobs. The worst may not be over, but credit Apple with four key moves this year: * Adult supervision returned in the form of CEO Gilbert Amelio, who unlike his predecessor seems to understand how to run a big company. * Most Macs became price-competitive with Windows machines. * Macs got faster. They now perform as fast or faster than comparably priced Intel-based boxes and should keep pace--or set the pace--in 1997. * Apple discovered the Internet, making every new Mac more Internet- friendly than a Windows computer. Still, the new year begs for soul-searching. That's not Apple's strong suit, so I've taken the liberty of doing it for them. Here are four things the company must focus on in 1997: FIX THE OS MESS In case you have a life and haven't spent the entire year tracking Apple's travails: The Mac OS lacks certain modern features that it must offer soon. Those include the ability to do several jobs (such as send e-mail, print and recalculate a spreadsheet) simultaneously without a performance hit, and the ability to protect the OS from crashing when a single application hangs. Apple's engineering corps, beset by defections, doesn't have a clue how to fix things. Enter the brilliant but unpredictable Jobs. With the recent announcement that Apple will acquire his Next Computer, and with it a more modern OS that features some of what the Mac OS lacks, hope springs anew. Now that Apple has new technology, it should offer a realistic time frame for revamping the Mac OS, devote the resources required to meet that deadline, then announce the plan publicly. Honesty for a change--what a concept. What if engineers or executives suffer from Apple's rampant not-invented- here syndrome and resist integrating Next technology and whatever else Apple must buy to keep the Mac current? Fire them. If not, they'll kill the Mac. FIND SOME BIG CLONERS Apple needs at least two companies among the top 15 PC makers or one in the top five to announce that they will sell Mac clones by June. A Compaq or Gateway might make software developers believe in the Mac again. Along these lines, in 1996 Apple devoted $20 million to developer support. If Amelio really wants to stop developer desertions, he'll spend $50 million in 1997. LET CLARIS BE CLARIS Claris, Apple's sensationally successful software company, has proved that it can steamroll the competition. Mac and Windows versions of its Home Page, FileMaker and Emailer products put the competition to shame. In short, Claris, like its superb all-in-one productivity program, Works. So instead of making Claris support ill-considered ventures that spread Apple too thin, let it spend its vast profit to build new products, grow and demonstrate that Apple has a clue about how to survive as a software company. HOLD ONTO THE SCHOOLS Years ago Apple donated thousands of computers to schools, engendering deep loyalty among teachers, grabbing a dominant market share and leading millions of students to become Mac fanatics. To stay strong in the schools Apple needs a new initiative. I call it "Kids First 2000." Apple should give away 2,000 Macs--including an Internet server for every 0 desktop models--to public schools every month between now and 2000. It should throw in a geek SWAT team to wire 2,000 schools, and build technologies designed to help schools administer Web activities. Apple management has never been stupid, just scattered between too many priorities. No time like the new year to choose survival. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Future of the Mac OS Message-ID: <8CF1378.09B8000006.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sun, 29 Dec 96 14:48:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 From: agora@info.lanic.utexas.edu,Internet Subject: Future of the Mac OS Hancock says first release of Next-generation OS won't be backward compatible By Tova Fliegel Unable to stem the tide of questions about their new OS strategy until Macworld Expo in January, executives at Apple Computer and Next today offered reporters and analysts glimmers of how the purchase of Next will affect Apple's operating system and market plans. The 1st release of Apple's Next-enabled operating system will hit in 1997, but it will be tailored to developers and beta testers, Apple Chief Technology Officer Ellen Hancock said. A broader release will be available to users sometime in 1998, two years behind Copland's initial release schedule and a year behind the first revised date for Copland's ship. Hancock also estimated that full backward compatibility with existing Mac applications would not be available until well into 1998, although she emphasized that some applications, such as those written in Java, would be compatible before then. She and the other executives were honest in saying they were uncertain about how far back they will be able to carry backward compatibility. When asked if the Next-generation Mac OS would run with 68040 machines, Hancock said, "The OS is intended for the PowerPC, it's not limited to CHRP, however, over time, it will run on CHRP....How far back we can take this, we will figure out later on." Hancock also reassured press and analysts that the new OS would run on any systems Apple is currently shipping. Hancock said Apple had not yet determined which kernel it will use for the new OS, and she said it is safe to assume that users would not be seeing a hybrid OS but rather an integrated technology. In fact, the executives were honest in saying there was a great deal yet to be explored relative to the merger of the two technologies. Avie Tevanian, formally Next's vice president of engineering who will take over as lead of Apple's OS effort and report directly to Hancock, admitted that System 7 has not yet been tested running in emulation mode on the NextStep, however, he refered to third-party emulators developed several years ago for System 6 which he said "ran fairly well. We don't anticipate problems" with the System 7 emulation. That theme -- of having strong hunches about NextStep's capabilities for the Mac but with a great deal of exploration left to be done--recurred as the Next executives referred to a key benefit promised by the Be OS: they said NextStep does support symmetric multiprocessing, but conceded that in its current form the Next OS does not ship for any symmetric multiprocessing applications. Saying that her next move would be to have in-depth discussions with companies like Adobe Systems, Hancock was uncertain about how the Mac OS would handle Next's use of display PostScript versus the Mac's use of QuickDraw GX. NextStep writes to PostScript directly, seen by many publishers as a benefit, while the Mac OS writes to QuickDraw GX which acts as a PostScript interpreter. Officials at both companies were certain that as a newly merged entity they would continue to market and sell OpenStep and WebObjects, the two products that Next has been pushing most recently. Both products work on a variety of platforms, including the Intel platform. They emphasized WebOjects and Next's history as a Unix-based software company with an enterprise focus as opening the enterprise to Apple--a market in which Apple has never been successful. Until the as-yet unnamed Next-generation OS is ready Apple will continue with its strategy to release interim updates to System 7. Users can expect the next revision to System 7 in January, code-named Harmony, and a July release of Tempo, which will incorporate features of the Mac OS 8 Finder. The officials said to stay tuned for Macworld Expo in January for more complete OS information. In the same press conference, Chief Financial Officer Fred Anderson offered some details of how the acquisition would affect Apple's finances, saying that Apple would write off about $300 million of Next's $400 million purchase price in the second quarter of 1997, with the remaining $100 million to be ammortized over the next five to seven years. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 Origin: Alice strikes back @
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Jobs at Apple Message-ID: <8CF430F.09B8000013.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 97 13:03:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 What Apple did: NeXT Systems' Steve Jobs has returned to Apple to revive the company's fortunes. 12/31/96 The Daily Telegraph London THE most remarkable aspect of Apple Computer's industry-shaking merger with NeXT Software is the return to the fold of Steve Jobs. He will go back to Apple, the company he co-founded in 1977, in a bid to save the computer system he was instrumental in creating: the Macintosh. In many ways the Apple/ NeXT deal is a marriage made in heaven. NeXT, whose NeXTstep operating system was ahead of its time on its release in 1989, will provide Apple with the foundation for a solid, modern operating system. Apple, whose own Macintosh operating system, System 7, is creaking with age, will then bolt on its sexiest bits - primarily its QuickTime multimedia technology and the Macintosh look and feel. The result, if all goes according to plan, will be a modern, powerful but friendly operating system. Apple's previous attempt to build a modern OS by modifying System 7, the Copland project, was a flop. So Apple embarked upon a new strategy: buying all or part of a modern OS from someone else, and then grafting on its characteristic friendliness and ease-of-use. Be Inc, founded by Jean-Louis Gassee, was the main contender to provide Apple with the OS gold dust it was looking for. Be's radical new operating system, BeOS, is fast, powerful, and runs on the same PowerPC chips that power Apple's Power Macintosh computers. But last month it emerged that Apple was also considering Sun's Unix-based Solaris operating system, the NeXTstep system, and - whisper it - even licensing Microsoft's own grown-up OS, Windows NT. This last idea was, however, almost immediately discounted. Negotiations with Be stalled, with Gassee reportedly asking far more than Apple was prepared to pay for his company. At first, the talk of Apple considering Solaris and NeXTstep was seen as a bargaining tactic to get Gassee to drop his price. Then a deal was announced. For $400m, Apple will get NeXT's operating system, its WebObjects Internet development system, and what is undoubtedly the company's most valuable asset: Steve Jobs himself. Current Apple boss Gil Amelio, while considered a safe pair of hands and renowned for his ability to resuscitate ailing technology companies, is just as famous for his lack of charisma. Jobs, on the other hand, is famous for his vision, his drive, and his ability to motivate engineers and programmers. Together, he and his company provide the missing ingredients that Apple desperately needs. But Jobs is also well-known for being extremely difficult to work with. When his Apple co-founder, Steve Wozniak, was made employee number 1 by Apple's personnel department, Jobs insisted on being made employee number zero. Jobs was eventually fired from Apple in 1985 in a boardroom coup when his mercurial temperament became more of a liability than an asset. He left to set up NeXT, a company that eventually gave birth to a technically groundbreaking and highly regarded but poor-selling workstation computer shaped like a black cube. How much of Jobs' long-standing resentment towards Apple remains under the surface is unclear. "It will be great to have him out there evangelising for us," says an Apple insider - but Jobs' quick temper, and his rather sketchy new job description ("consultant"), are potential dangers for the new Apple/ NeXT hybrid. There are also substantial technical obstacles to negotiate. Today's Macintosh software probably won't run on the new Apple/NeXT OS without extensive modification. The first version of the hybrid OS is expected in late 1997, but it is likely to look more like NeXTstep than the Mac OS, and will exist primarily to give software developers a chance to get used to the new architecture. However, even though making today's Mac software work on the new OS will involve a huge amount of work, the alternative - learning how to write Windows software instead - is far less appealing to most Apple developers. So, in the short term at least, the Apple/NeXT deal kills several birds with one stone. In one stroke, Apple suddenly has an operating system strategy; Jobs is reconciled with his old company; his years in the wilderness trying to recreate the Macintosh magic with NeXT were worth it after all; and the Macintosh community, whose morale had slumped following the Copland debacle, has been reinvigorated. Some observers, including Marc Andreessen of Netscape, have suggested that Apple should make its new OS run on Intel hardware as well, to take on Windows NT. The rise of Java, he said last week, "presents a whole new type of challenge to Microsoft, and a new opportunity to Apple and their new OS." The Windows/Mac battle of the Eighties ended in victory for Windows; now Jobs is back for round two. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Objective C Message-ID: <8CF235D.09B800000D.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 96 14:21:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 (Objective-C is what NeXtstep is written in. I thought some people might find this article of some interest.) Objective-C furnishes powerful option to C++ 04/24/95 PC Week Earlier this month, NeXT acquired all rights to Stepstone's Objective-C programming language. This is an object-oriented superset of C, regarded by many as far easier to learn and use than C++. And it looks to me as if Objective-C's best days are still to come. In particular, Objective-C has always been the core technology of NeXT's justly famous development tools. These were chosen in February by MCI for the custom applications supporting MCI's New Friends and Family discount program. Considering that C++ originated at AT&T, one wonders if language choice is having any impact on relative time-to-market for new services from these two well-funded competitors. NeXT's acquisition of Objective-C does not mean that it's becoming a proprietary tool. On the contrary, NeXT plans to move Objective-C through formal standardization processes to make it an open language. Stepstone has licensed back the right to continue selling Objective-C compilers under its own name. This is a good thing, because the style of software development encouraged by Objective-C is a genuine alternative to the style that is encouraged by both C++ (the "standard" that still isn't) and Ada 95 (an ANSI and ISO object- oriented standard that deserves more attention than it gets). Like the Common Lisp Object System, which recently became the second formal object-oriented standard, Objective-C provides superb facilities for building flexible applications. By flexible, I mean that these applications postpone the binding of polymorphic messages until the object types that are being addressed have been determined at run-time. Too many developers will wind up inventing this for themselves, because they started out with a "more efficient" language that didn't already provide these features. Who will cut through a project's complexities more quickly: the developer who starts with a chain saw or the one who tries to make one from a machete? The latter sort of solution is what you will get if your developers choose tools based on criteria that don't really reflect the kinds of applications you want to build. C++ is certainly "the most common, most supported, and most portable" object-oriented programming language, in the words of Bruce Webster, co- founder of Pages Software. But there's far more to doing good object-oriented development than merely using an object-oriented language, as Webster would be the first to agree. The technical question is one of static type checking vs. dynamic, run-time binding. This is described by Webster in his latest book, just published by M&T, titled "Pitfalls of Object-Oriented Programming." Of the 82 pitfalls, Pitfall 5.4 is titled "Using C++." Lack of dynamic binding is one of his principal criticisms of the language, though he acknowledges that it has been evolving toward this goal. Webster opines that recent C++ refinements, such as run-time type information, have "all the problems inherent to retrofitting a capability for which the language was not intended." It's a fundamental error to focus strictly on choice of language. "We obsess about this endlessly," said Stepstone co-founder Brad Cox in a 1991 interview, "but who is doing anything about specification technology?" Even so, tools such as Objective-C encourage developers to specify what the customer wants, instead of what a more limiting language can provide. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: mthomas7@ix.netcom.com (Michael Thomas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Useful software, mono/color Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 21:24:41 -0500 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <mthomas7-0101972124420001@nyc-ny11-17.ix.netcom.com> References: <jak-ya023680002912960132500001@news.asu.edu> In article <jak-ya023680002912960132500001@news.asu.edu>, jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) wrote: > I'm thinking of getting a NeXTstation, and would like to know what kind of > apps are out there that can make it a useful machine to me(as opposed to a > beautiful example of industrial design sitting on my desk). > > The categories of software in which I am interested: > > DTP (something like Quark, maybe?) > all sorts of graphics (mostly bitmapped, little vector) including 3D > CAD/something like formZ > webdesign > light web/mailserver software? > and of course internet surfing (mail, newsgroups, www). > > Are there any notable apps in these categories? Especially shareware, of > course. And a way to transfer files to/from a Mac. > > > Also, please note whether any such apps would want color. I'd need to > justify a color NeXTstation (I'm leaning toward mono). > > Sorry if this asks for a lot of info, but I'd appreciate it greatly. > > thanks > john > > --- - ------- ------- > Music is a higher revelation than philosophy. - Beethoven > > jak@asu.edu > http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/ John, For DTP track down a copy of Aldus Virtuoso (preferably v 2, AKA "Virtuoso Gold). It's Freehand 4 for NeXT and will export files as Freehand 3, various Illustrator formats and I forget what else for the Mac. Plus, it'll let you see all those Postscript effects you have to take on faith with a Mac. One thing to remember: NeXT (or at least the scanner I used) saves its TIFF scans in a Windows flavor. If you try to use them in a Mac, open them from within Photoshop and save as Mac TIFFs. For retouch, WetPaint could show Photoshop a few things about interface design, though it lacks a "magic wand". I hear good things about Tiffany, too. Omniweb from Lighthouse Design is a nice Netscape browser for NeXT. As for hardware, you might really consider a more modern Pentium running NeXTstep. Plain wrapper, but same soul. And a ton faster since the old color blackware equals a Quadra 9-something. Mike Thomas (Mac 7500 and NeXT Turbo Color station)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Message-ID: <1997Jan1.185620.91049@cc.usu.edu> From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 1 Jan 97 18:56:20 MDT References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <carol1-2212961927330001@macip-ara-153.apple.com> <32be96c1.37286449@news.sover.net> <32BE991D.7AB7@sfbayrun.com> <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> <geordie-ya023480003012961049390001@kyrie> Distribution: inet In article <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de>, wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de (Wolfgang Keller) wrote: > > Another, much more improtant disadvantage of the NeXT OS is imho the > fact that the GUI is afaik not based on X. This is a -disadvantage- ?? Yum, let's talk about the lack of COBOL compilers too while we're at it... Oooh, I feel soooo disadvantaged. > The capability to run _ANY_ > (even GUI) application remotely through a network via the standard X > protocol (which allows access to these applications from any client OS > as long as there is an X server available for it) is one main advantage > of Unix systems over _ANY_ other current OS. > Sheesh, if you really have to run X that badly, install the free X11R6 package off the archives. Then you can X to your heart's content.
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mix for NeXT (motorola) Review Date: 1 Jan 1997 20:19:02 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <5af9f6$n1l@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5aae8b$s80@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> A couple things to add: 1. Mix needs to be run from a logged in user account. 2. If an answering machine program is configured, mix will automatically start answering the phone if auto-launched. The user interface and docs do not imply this. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: "Frank Chu" <chu@ipoline.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 2 Jan 1997 03:42:56 GMT Organization: InterPacific Online Distribution: inet Message-ID: <01bbf85d$f43ce8a0$5d13acce@chu.ipoline.com> References: <01bbef77$50776810$15818bce@djowens> <851275965mnewsachaney@voicenet.com> <59k1ke$5sr@news.Hawaii.Edu> <32BD3D7E.422C@sfbayrun.com> <32BDB8B6.5741@flash.net> <carol1-2212961724430001@macip-ara-32.apple.com> <5a4re1$qfe@news.bctel.net> <01bbf6ea$87569840$5813acce@chu.ipoline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have never seem a low chip such as PPC CPUS. I won't run a PMac since it runs that shitty MacOS. IBM's PPC runs a version of NT with nearly no applications available, and for the price of a System/6000(PPC CPU) running AIX I can get a SUN Sparc running Solaris with 50% more performance or even that newest O2 SGI. A SMP dual Pentium PRO200 with 512k cache onboard running ULTRA FAST Unixs like Solaris, BSD, Linux or SCO costs only half of those over priced shitty machines! PPC CPUs can really eat shit. P.S. Flames welcome.
From: Timothy R Mills <timothy@acm.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Calendar and scheduling apps Date: 2 Jan 1997 01:47:35 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. Message-ID: <5af43n$8bu@ralph.vnet.net> Keywords: calendar, schedule What kind of calendar/schedule/group scheduling software exists for NEXTSTEP? What are the features and costs? Is there anything besides PencilMeIn? Please email me with any details and contacts. Thanks. Timothy -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Mills 2500 Innsbrook Road timothy@acm.org Charlotte, NC 28226 (NeXT/MIME/ASCII) phone: 704-442-1141 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mattw@staff.uiuc.edu (Matt Ward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pop3D problem fixed. Date: 2 Jan 1997 04:25:51 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: na Message-ID: <5afdcf$fnn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Summary: Pop3D problem fixed, thanks Thanks to all who answered, niload fixed it. -- Matt Ward mattw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu University of Illinios CCSO
From: jison@ucs.indiana.edu (james samuel ison) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 2 Jan 1997 04:36:50 GMT Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Message-ID: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: 1073745024 Um. call your Crack dealer and tell him to stop selling you the cheap stuff. Frank Chu (chu@ipoline.com) wrote: : I have never seem a low chip such as PPC CPUS. I won't run a PMac since : it runs that shitty MacOS. IBM's PPC runs a version of NT with nearly : no applications available, and for the price of a System/6000(PPC CPU) : running AIX I can get a SUN Sparc running Solaris with 50% more performance : or even that newest O2 SGI. A SMP dual Pentium PRO200 with 512k cache : onboard running ULTRA FAST Unixs like Solaris, BSD, Linux or SCO costs only : half of those over priced shitty machines! PPC CPUs can really eat shit. : : P.S. Flames welcome. -- ---- "Queens Don't Make Bargains"--Lewis Carroll. James S. Ison jison@ucs.indiana.edu University Computing Services/DSL --Consultant --Web Master
From: longsine@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pages by Pages Date: 2 Jan 1997 04:53:51 GMT Organization: PLATINUM technology, inc. (though i speak for myself only) Message-ID: <5aff0v$f0l@news.platinum.com> References: <32BED518.2A2170E6@screaming.org> <59ml1t$870@shelob.afs.com> <32C014BF.3426@dallas.net> <32C0CAC4.5176@afs.com> <5a91du$6sa@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <5a98q9$g8n@duke.squonk.net> <5a9f9d$qfe@news.bctel.net> <32C8475F.5504@afs.com> Cc: greg@afs.com In <32C8475F.5504@afs.com> "Gregory H. Anderson" wrote: > Scott wrote: > > Who owns the code? Is there a chance Pages could be revived in light > > of the recent merger? > > As I posted the other day, Pages was shut down, and they sold the rights > to Ted Shelton's company (ITS), which I believe is also defunct. The > code was pretty hairy -- not something you'd look forward to converting > to OPENSTEP. It would be easier to take the concept and reimplement it > in an app that was already a decent text/graphics engine. > > Greg > Greg, I would kiss you, or not-kiss you, whatever you prefer. I loved Pages. It had the coolest text/layout system that I have ever used -- and I've test-driven most of them. I miss Pages dearly. It wasn't quite done (needed better support for alien file types, etc.) but the interface paradigm had the potential of a serious killer app. It made MS-Word and PageMaker look like toys. I guess it kicked butt in the same way that Improve did. (Thank god for Quantrix.) /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| WebObjects: PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| because life is longsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= too short for (612) 688-3033 x7814 & MIME) |. U Lotus Notes.
From: help@spry.com Organization: Self Help Corp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5ackvg$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <borra.5ackvg$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Control: cancel <5ackvg$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> References: <5ackvg$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 12:41:20 +0100 EMP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. The Breidbart index was 494. See report "totalmarketing" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: FREE EDUCATIONAL VIDEO/CDs.
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 2 Jan 1997 12:07:43 GMT Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ag8ef$t2o@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <01bbef77$50776810$15818bce@djowens> <851275965mnewsachaney@voicenet.com> <59k1ke$5sr@news.Hawaii.Edu> <32BD3D7E.422C@sfbayrun.com> <32BDB8B6.5741@flash.net> <carol1-2212961724430001@macip-ara-32.apple.com> <5a4re1$qfe@news.bctel.net> <01bbf6ea$87569840$5813acce@chu.ipoline.com> <01bbf85d$f43ce8a0$5d13acce@chu.ipoline.com> Cc: chu@ipoline.com In <01bbf85d$f43ce8a0$5d13acce@chu.ipoline.com> "Frank Chu" wrote: > I have never seem a low chip such as PPC CPUS. I won't run a PMac since > it runs that shitty MacOS. IBM's PPC runs a version of NT with nearly > no applications available, and for the price of a System/6000(PPC CPU) > running AIX I can get a SUN Sparc running Solaris with 50% more performance > or even that newest O2 SGI. A SMP dual Pentium PRO200 with 512k cache > onboard running ULTRA FAST Unixs like Solaris, BSD, Linux or SCO costs only > half of those over priced shitty machines! PPC CPUs can really eat shit. > Ah, education, one can see the warm shine of wisdom... Get some brain between your ears, then see some benchmark reports. A PPC603e may easily blow away a MMX Pentium at the same clock. A PPC604e can do the same for the PPro. As usual the problem is the compiler technology, the best RISC cpu is scrap metal when the machine code isn't fully optimized for it. So your millage may vary. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: tedl@top.net (Ted Leonard) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 23:40:03 -0600 Organization: IDT Distribution: inet Message-ID: <tedl-ya02408000R0101972340030001@news.top.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Frank Chu (chu@ipoline.com) wrote: >: I have never seem a low chip such as PPC CPUS. I won't run a PMac since >: it runs that shitty MacOS. IBM's PPC runs a version of NT with nearly >: no applications available, and for the price of a System/6000(PPC CPU) >: running AIX I can get a SUN Sparc running Solaris with 50% more performance >: or even that newest O2 SGI. A SMP dual Pentium PRO200 with 512k cache >: onboard running ULTRA FAST Unixs like Solaris, BSD, Linux or SCO costs only >: half of those over priced shitty machines! PPC CPUs can really eat shit. This is the sort of thing that happens when people let their 12 year olds play with their computer. > >: P.S. Flames welcome. Flames welcome? More like flames inevitable. -- Ted Leonard tedl@top.net If we could just get everyone to close their eyes and visualize world peace for an hour, imagine how serene and quiet it would be until the looting started.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.unixware.a From: "Bitstream" <m.jorna@tip.nl> Subject: REQ: reg code for in-cube for win95 (voice recognition) Message-ID: <01bbe833$a65b5480$1ed2b18f@t819096> Sender: news@tip.nl (The News User) Organization: The Internet Plaza Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:03:05 GMT plaese mail to : m.jorna@tip.nl
From: brataas@sn.no (John Brataas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: PENPAL GREETINGS! (was Re: VIRUS ALERT) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 13:04:03 GMT Organization: SOUND-tec Message-ID: <5agbo5$9me@elle.eunet.no> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <5a0u8u$ck1@hunter.premier.net> battleaxe@cwc.lsu.edu (Scott Hoppe) wrote: > >In article <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net>, jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) > wrote: > >>Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded > >>Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM > >> > >>Subject: Virus Alert > >>Importance: High > >> > >>If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL > >>GREETINGS! ; please delete it > >>WITHOUT reading it. > In article <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net>, mtm@insync.net says... > > > >What is this? Another "Good Time's Virus" scare? This is crazy. Email can't > >contain a virus. Maybe a binary attachment, but then you have to actually > run > >it. Someday these people will learn.... > > > They completely missed the joke this time, because the original poster didn't > use the Subject: 'PENPAL GREETINGS!'. "Don't read the messages sendt to you by the obnoxious persons johnb@falch.no and janr@falch.no. If you open this message on a Windows PC you will enable a virus that force you to type "I will rather use a Macintosh" once evey 5 minutes. If you don't follow theese instructions the virus will spinn up you CD or floppy to 95.000 rpm. and slice your PC into two halfs. Forward this info to everyone you know - even your mother in law"
From: Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ReInstalling NeXTStep 3.2 from scratch Date: 02 Jan 1997 08:14:22 -0800 Organization: DataSphere Sender: mycroft@chrome.datasphere.net Message-ID: <x7n2usoy01.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Well, after screwing around for awhile, I thought I would ask what the reccomended procedure is for completely wiping a disk, and reinstalling NeXTStep 3.2 from scratch. Just boot the cdrom and go ? .mycroft -- [:]====================================================================[:] [\] Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> >>>>>[DataSphere]<<<<< [=] [=] Key fingerprint = DD B1 A7 D9 2D DF A0 F7 23 C2 6B EC 5A AD 01 A9 [\] [:]====================================================================[:]
From: zweimuel@fcggsg06.icg.tu-graz.ac.at (Zweimueller Karl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Supra FAX Modem driver/Mach Date: 2 Jan 1997 17:10:22 GMT Organization: Graz University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5agq5u$up6@fstgal00.tu-graz.ac.at> References: <5a8mup$1tb0@www.univie.ac.at> a9050756@unet.univie.ac.at wrote: : Is there a driver for Supra FAX modems for fax in/out capability directly from nextstep/mach? I use mgetty/sendfax with a Supra 28800 and it works fine. But you need to compile/configure the mgetty-system. -- Internet: | Zweimueller Karl | Packet-Radio: zweimuel@icg.tu-graz.ac.at | Graz,Austria | OE5KZN@DB0LNA.#BAY.DEU.EU
From: indy@pachacuti.is.com (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.software Subject: Re: Zilla Date: 2 Jan 1997 16:54:13 GMT Organization: Integrity Solutions, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5agp7l$957@medusa.is.com> References: <32B210F4.696A@soback.kornet.nm.kr> In article <32B210F4.696A@soback.kornet.nm.kr> YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> writes: > Mark Bessey wrote: > > > > Zilla is a system for running programs on a number of computers when > > they're otherwise idle. The online help in Zilla.app explains (more or > > less) how to set things up. As for what you can do with it, Zilla has been > > used at NeXT for various research projects in cryptography and video > > compression. Basically, any difficult computing problem that can be > > partitioned into relatively large chunks is a candidate for zilla-zation. > > > Can I use Zilla.app for image processecing or rendering on the > TIFFany.app or solidThinking? > Could you show me the example? If there's any spare time all all to be had in Redwood City, I'd strongly urge NeXT to plop some demos of "Zilla-ization" on NeXTAnswers, especially any graphics-related ones. Speaking as a graphics geek, such concrete examples of distributed graphics computing would be tha strongest possible attention-getter for the Mac content-creation community. Currently they're running SGI's and IRIX for such work, and that's not always a Good Thing. -- | Steve Weintz | "The Deliverator's car packs enough potential energy | indy@is.com | in its batteries to fire a pound of bacon into the | 612.686.4085 | Asteroid Belt." -- Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash
From: indy@pachacuti.is.com (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.rendering.renderman,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.graphics Subject: NeXT RenderMan Example Web work Date: 2 Jan 1997 17:09:57 GMT Organization: Integrity Solutions, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5agq55$979@medusa.is.com> Keywords: RenderMan, NeXT, Web , graphics <PLUG> For the curious RenderPerson, our company's revamped website (http://www.is.com) sports icons I designed and created using GESTEL's solidThinking.app running under NeXT's OS on a Pentium PC. Texture maps and image retouching were done using Caffiene Software's TIFFany II image processor. </PLUG> -- | Steve Weintz | "The Deliverator's car packs enough potential energy | indy@is.com | in its batteries to fire a pound of bacon into the | 612.686.4085 | Asteroid Belt." -- Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash
From: pxpst2@pitt.edu (the) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 13:10:46 +0200 Organization: jj Distribution: inet Message-ID: <pxpst2-0201971310460001@path01.pathology.pitt.edu> References: <01bbef77$50776810$15818bce@djowens> <851275965mnewsachaney@voicenet.com> <59k1ke$5sr@news.Hawaii.Edu> <32BD3D7E.422C@sfbayrun.com> <32BDB8B6.5741@flash.net> <carol1-2212961724430001@macip-ara-32.apple.com> <5a4re1$qfe@news.bctel.net> <01bbf6ea$87569840$5813acce@chu.ipoline.com> <01bbf85d$f43ce8a0$5d13acce@chu.ipoline.com> Frank you are an idiot that does not know JACK. You surely don't know processors. The PowerPC chip is a generartion ahead of the pentium. The MacOS even hobbled by nonnative I/O routines can still keep up with the Pentiums. The PowerPC was designed to have a hefty FPU. It is the role of programmers to use it. Here is some advice: My grandmother told me "it is better to keep your mouth shut and have peaple think you are dumb than to open your mouth and let peaple know you are dumb." Peter Pediaditakis
From: Michael.Gentry@mci.com (Michael Gentry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Date: 2 Jan 1997 19:25:45 GMT Organization: InternetMCI Message-ID: <5ah23p$nh9@news.internetmci.com> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <carol1-2212961927330001@macip-ara-153.apple.com> <32be96c1.37286449@news.sover.net> <32BE991D.7AB7@sfbayrun.com> <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> In-Reply-To: <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> On 12/29/96, Wolfgang Keller wrote: >Another, much more improtant disadvantage of the NeXT OS is imho >the fact that the GUI is afaik not based on X. The capability to >run _ANY_ (even GUI) application remotely through a network via >the standard X protocol (which allows access to these applications >from any client OS as long as there is an X server available for >it) is one main advantage of Unix systems over _ANY_ other current >OS. I've done X/Motif and I'm doing NeXTstep ... you will have to drag me kicking and screaming before I go back to X. X is a neat-o toy, but it's certainly not mass-market (too darned difficult for most users). Besides, NeXTstep supports (and has done so for quite a time) similar remote hosting capabilities as X. You simply run a program using "program -NXHost system" instead of "program -display system:0.0" (the X equivalent). I use this feature to run our user's application in Dallas and display it on my machine in DC to do remote debugging. Works perfectly. You can also use this feature to run applications which aren't installed on your machine, just like X. NeXTstep is client-server based, just like X. It's just incredibly nicer to use than X (at many levels). - mrg -- "We love Java, but we believe in choice." - Brad Silverberg, Microsoft Corporation, December 1996
From: tzulun@Hawaii.Edu (Tzu-Lun Lin) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 2 Jan 1997 19:12:08 GMT Organization: University of Hawaii Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ah1a8$hiq@news.Hawaii.Edu> Frank Chu (chu@ipoline.com) wrote: : I have never seem a low chip such as PPC CPUS. I won't run a PMac since : it runs that shitty MacOS. IBM's PPC runs a version of NT with nearly : no applications available, and for the price of a System/6000(PPC CPU) : running AIX I can get a SUN Sparc running Solaris with 50% more performance : or even that newest O2 SGI. A SMP dual Pentium PRO200 with 512k cache : onboard running ULTRA FAST Unixs like Solaris, BSD, Linux or SCO costs only : half of those over priced shitty machines! PPC CPUs can really eat shit. Shitty Mac OS compared to what? Solaris? Yes. But a SPARC station is far more expensive them a PowerPC Mac. If you prefer a SUN Sparc over System/6000 running AIX. Ok. That's your choice. What's that got to do with PowerPC Mac? A dual Pentium should cost less than half of a SPARC or O2. And SPARC and O2 are not shitty machines. PPC CPUs can not eat shit. Only organisms capable to consuming can. I'm sure you are one of them. Your logic goes like this. A top of the line Pentium costs the same as a SPARC or O2. Win95 is shit. A BeBox, dual PPC is ultra fast, cost a fraction of Sun's or SGI's workstation. So all of a sudden, Pentium based CPUs developed a capability to cosume digested food. Huh?
From: edx@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Message-ID: <1997Jan2.140005.91071@cc.usu.edu> Date: 2 Jan 97 14:00:05 MDT References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <32BE991D.7AB7@sfbayrun.com> <5a950s$frj@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> Distribution: inet Organization: Utah State University In article <5a950s$frj@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>, nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan M. Urban) writes: > In article <5a7mar$510@huffalump.visi.com>, dwy@ace.net (David Young) wrote: > >> Basing anything on X incurs heavy ease-of-use penalties. > > Disagree. It is theoretically possible to implement DPS on top of X, > for example. Then it will look exactly like NEXTSTEP and behave almost > the same, and you can interface to it identically using the AppKit. In > fact this is more than theory; the GNUstep project is implementing this. We wish. Implementing DPS on X in no way automatically makes your interface look and behave like NEXTSTEP. And the GNUstep project is an excellent example. If you have actually used GNUstep, you will find a Motif UI. Motif buttons, Motif windows, Motif everything. That's because you'll have to write the equivalent of your own "widget set" (to use X terminology) if you use DPS, and the GNUstep folks are opting to use the existing Motif widget set to save them time. While it does save them time, you surely don't get a NEXTSTEP look or feel. From a developer's standpoint, coding should end up the same, eventually. But GNUstep is still such a mess right now, it's not exactly a stirling example of a PD OpenStep implementation.
From: Hunky@cirrus.prestel.co.uk (Henry Blackman) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: re: "power" pc chips can eat shit Date: 02 Jan 97 21:26:18 Organization: [not set] Distribution: inet Message-ID: <852261978mnewsHunky@cirrus.prestel.co.uk> References: <5ah1a8$hiq@news.Hawaii.Edu> According to the latest issue of Amiga Format (Future Publishing UK) if Quikpak purchase Amiga Technologies (please, please), their new version of Amiga will be DEC Alpha and low end machines will continue to run on 680x0 series (they say 070, 080... - but Motorola have PUBLICALLY said no new 0x0 series processors). What's going on here? Why DEC Alpha, when the rest of the Amiga community are moving toward PowerPC; which are cheaper; AND would enable Quikpak to release lower end machines based on RISC technology as well as high end machines based on the SAME processors THUS enabling users/developers to have the same applications running on their machines (take a breath...). Henry.
From: dehoog@bc.mbn.or.jp (John De Hoog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 06:07:33 GMT Organization: TNI Message-ID: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm currently using Windows NT Workstation (4.0). After evaluating hundreds of applications, I have found several that are of the "essential" variety. For me to use the NeXT system, I would need replacements for all or most of these. Does NeXTStep currently have good applications of the following kinds? (1) Offline news readers for dialup accounts Prime examples: Forte Agent, Gravity, MS Internet News (2) Offline Web agents (for checking sites automatically and downloading changes for offline viewing) Prime examples: Tierra Highlights, Surfbot, Teleport Pro (3) File synchronization utilities (for reflecting changes onto a backup MO drive) (4) POP email clients that handle multiple accounts in one interface, and are able to handle Japanese (5) Up-to-date Web browser support (6) Wordprocessing software compatible with MS Word 6.0 or later (7) Spreadsheet software comparable to MS Excel In addition, the system should have the ability to dial up automatically to my Internet providers on demand, as I now do with RAS. That's my basic list of requirements. Without these, I can see no reason for me to switch from NT 4.0, which runs stably on my 486-based system. (By stable, I mean it has never crashed once, and is running the above programs 24 hours a day.) On the other hand, if I can get similar applications for NeXTStep, and the OS itself becomes more affordable, and the user interface is as advanced as people claim, and it has other advantages over NT 4.0, it might be worth a look. If not, what would be the point?? ------ John De Hoog dehoog@super.zippo.com
From: wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de (Wolfgang Keller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:48:29 +0100 Organization: Customer of EUnet Germany; Info: info@Germany.EU.net Distribution: inet Message-ID: <1997010222482930471@peu1-87.m.eunet.de> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <carol1-2212961927330001@macip-ara-153.apple.com> <32be96c1.37286449@news.sover.net> <32BE991D.7AB7@sfbayrun.com> <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> <geordie-ya023480003012961049390001@kyrie> <1997Jan1.185620.91049@cc.usu.edu> X-no-archive: yes <edx@cc.usu.edu> wrote: > In article <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de>, > > The capability to run _ANY_ > > (even GUI) application remotely through a network via the standard X > > protocol (which allows access to these applications from any client OS > > as long as there is an X server available for it) is one main advantage > > of Unix systems over _ANY_ other current OS. > > > > Sheesh, if you really have to run X that badly, install the free X11R6 > package off the archives. Then you can X to your heart's content. Oops, so if I install an X server on my computer, every application running on it automatically turns into an X client? Seems as if I have missed something in the manual... -- Wolfgang Keller An Apple (tm) a day wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de keeps the trouble away > As for an "important disadvantage"... well, clearly lack of remote viewing > has seriously impeded the growth of the market for other OSes which don't > have this feature, such as Windows and Windows95... [off-topic on] I've never seen any Wintel crapbox properly running the software that I'm using almost every day. And if it (Wintel) could run what I work with, for efficiency reasons I would still use anything else if I had the free choice... BTW: I was talking about advantages of an OS from a USER, not from a VENDOR standpoint of view, and I don't think the fact that WinDos is currently the best-selling 'OS' has brought any advantages to the users so far (imho rather the opposite should be true, followup-to's to comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy)... [off-topic off] If Apple builds a new OS on an (in what way ever) unix-related basis (which requires finding a 'workaround' for certain not very user -friendly Unix-'features' anyway), imho they would be stupid if they gave away voluntarily one of the most important advantages Unix still has over any other mainstream OS. And the fact that all (or most) current implementations of X have a UI (concerning system administration etc.) that is everything else than self-explaining (which would imho be necessary for a desktop OS) does not necessarily mean that realising such a UI is impossible. -- Wolfgang Keller An Apple (tm) a day wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de keeps the trouble away
From: wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de (Wolfgang Keller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:48:49 +0100 Organization: Customer of EUnet Germany; Info: info@Germany.EU.net Message-ID: <1997010222484931632@peu1-87.m.eunet.de> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <carol1-2212961927330001@macip-ara-153.apple.com> <32be96c1.37286449@news.sover.net> <32BE991D.7AB7@sfbayrun.com> <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> <AEED18A9-17E66@207.158.13.7> <19970101070158114990@peu1-115.m.eunet.de> <01bbf7be$ddc14b60$84c289ce@ns1.ilinks.net> X-no-archive: yes Karl Thomas <karlt@ilinks.net> wrote: > While I agree that the idea of running applications remotely on a single > user system is not the same as running an app remotely using X, I wouldn't > go as far as saying running apps remotely doesn't make any sense on a > single user system. If you're on the road and you might need to access > your desktop remotely or take advantage of resources that aren't available > on your laptop. Sorry if I didn't explain clearly enough: Is was not talking about remote access to file sharing networks. Afaik this is already a common standard feature of most network systems. F'up2 set -- Wolfgang Keller An Apple (tm) a day wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de keeps the trouble away
From: nextusr@sleepy.ponyexpress.net (The Woodsman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Calendar and scheduling apps Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 17:10:20 -0500 Organization: PonyExpress Net Message-ID: <nextusr-0201971710200001@ponyexpress-5-port-15.ponyexpress.net> References: <5af43n$8bu@ralph.vnet.net> The best I have found is also the cheapest. That is Cassendra. It can be found on most NeXT FTP sites. Hope this helps. NeXTusr In article <5af43n$8bu@ralph.vnet.net>, timothy@acm.org wrote: > What kind of calendar/schedule/group scheduling software exists for > NEXTSTEP? What are the features and costs? Is there anything besides > PencilMeIn? > > Please email me with any details and contacts. > > Thanks. > Timothy > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Timothy R. Mills 2500 Innsbrook Road > timothy@acm.org Charlotte, NC 28226 > (NeXT/MIME/ASCII) phone: 704-442-1141 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Windows 95 - Got it... Tried it... Dumped it!
From: nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan M. Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Date: 2 Jan 1997 19:32:33 -0500 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ahk31$1e6@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <32BE991D.7AB7@sfbayrun.com> <5a950s$frj@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> <1997Jan2.140005.91071@cc.usu.edu> In article <1997Jan2.140005.91071@cc.usu.edu>, edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: > In article <5a950s$frj@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>, nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan M. Urban) writes: > > In article <5a7mar$510@huffalump.visi.com>, dwy@ace.net (David Young) wrote: > >> Basing anything on X incurs heavy ease-of-use penalties. > > Disagree. It is theoretically possible to implement DPS on top of X, > > for example. Then it will look exactly like NEXTSTEP and behave almost > > the same, and you can interface to it identically using the AppKit. In > > fact this is more than theory; the GNUstep project is implementing this. > We wish. Implementing DPS on X in no way automatically makes your > interface look and behave like NEXTSTEP. I never claimed it did. Of course you have to implement the drawing methods for all the AppKit objects. > And the GNUstep project > is an excellent example. If you have actually used GNUstep, you > will find a Motif UI. Motif buttons, Motif windows, Motif everything. > That's because you'll have to write the equivalent of your own > "widget set" (to use X terminology) if you use DPS, and the > GNUstep folks are opting to use the existing Motif widget > set to save them time. While it does save them time, you > surely don't get a NEXTSTEP look or feel. That's the short-term goal. They will write a widget set later on. But that's beside the point. The original poster's claim was: "Basing anything on X incurs heavy ease-of-use penalties". My post was to correct this common fallacy; the poster was probably confusing the existing X widget sets and API with the X protocol itself. My point was that there is nothing inherent in X that makes interfaces difficult to use and that, in fact, one could have a desktop implemented in X that looks exactly like NEXTSTEP. (Though there are other differences, like X's horrible color model.) > From a developer's standpoint, coding should end up the same, > eventually. But GNUstep is still such a mess right now, it's > not exactly a stirling example of a PD OpenStep implementation. If you don't like GNUstep (and I disagree with your comments about its quality), then someone pointed out to me that OpenStep/NEO also uses DPS+X. -- Nathan Urban | nurban@vt.edu | Undergrad {CS,Physics,Math} | Virginia Tech
From: josteven@rmi.net (John Stevens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Date: 3 Jan 1997 00:54:21 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ahlbt$m93@rainbow.rmii.com> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <32be96c1.37286449@news.sover.net> <32BE991D.7AB7@sfbayrun.com> <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> In article <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de>, Wolfgang Keller <wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de> wrote: >X-no-archive: yes > >As I understand it, the ability for pre-emptive multitasking is >_NECESSARY_ for realtime capabilitiy (so a non-pre-emptive OS like the >MacOS can _NEVER_ be a realtime OS), but it is of course not sufficient, >because pre-emptive multitasking can only guarantee that a command will >be executed _AT ALL_, but not necessarily within a certain maximum >response time. Yah, to guarantee real-time response, you have to have a hard, fast and fixed priority scheme, and either allow only one process per priority, or limit the number of processes per priority level (and select the heart beat time) to guarantee response within the maximum allowed time. . . Of course, what this really means is that only one priority level can guarantee a response time, since all other, lower level priorities, can be interrupted by higher level priority processes. . . >P.S.: Real time capability is imho only relevant for OSes that are used >in embedded controllers and other systems where security is relevant, >but I don't think it is a major issue for any desktop (or server) OS for >'standard' applications. Well, it is really nice, almost a requirement, for real-time gaming. Hence the reason that DOS is still one of the best game platforms. . . When the game starts up, it installs its own "engine" (which is, in reality, a small real time OS + game support libraries and I/O support code) to run the game. It's kinda hard to do all that machine take-over stuff with any other OS, which is why MS introduced the game writing hooks into their Home OS. >Another, much more improtant disadvantage of the NeXT OS is imho the >fact that the GUI is afaik not based on X. The capability to run _ANY_ >(even GUI) application remotely through a network via the standard X >protocol (which allows access to these applications from any client OS >as long as there is an X server available for it) is one main advantage >of Unix systems over _ANY_ other current OS. Of course, I agree with your assesment of X, but would respectfully point out that X isn't a Unix-dependent service. I've run X servers on Macs, and if someone were willing to port the libraries to something like WinNT, you could conceivably run an X application on an NT box and run the server on a Mac/Win95/WinNT/Unix box. . . X has been slow to be adopted by the major desktop players, because up until now, their operating systems and network services support were far to primitive to act as servers. John S.
From: josteven@rmi.net (John Stevens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Date: 3 Jan 1997 00:58:09 GMT Organization: Rocky Mountain Internet Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ahlj1$nbn@rainbow.rmii.com> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> <AEED18A9-17E66@207.158.13.7> <19970101070158114990@peu1-115.m.eunet.de> In article <19970101070158114990@peu1-115.m.eunet.de>, Wolfgang Keller <wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de> wrote: >X-no-archive: yes > >Under MacOS, running applications remotely is not a standard built-in >feature of the OS, and it is not reasonable to do this (via third-part >utilities) either (for standard applications) because there is no >possibility at all to work with more than one user at a time on a Mac. >Running applications remotely doesn't make any sense on a single-user >OS. It actually does, but only for short, small administration tasks over a high speed network. Timbuktu is a real dog, some 10 to 20 times slower than X. I can't think of any reason to use Timbuktu, though, if the OS had the services to support X. John S.
From: leonvs@occam.com (Leon von Stauber) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Useful software, mono/color Date: 3 Jan 1997 01:11:29 GMT Organization: Occam's Razor Message-ID: <5ahmc1$6o4@hackberry.zilker.net> References: <jak-ya023680002912960132500001@news.asu.edu> Cc: jak@asu.edu In <jak-ya023680002912960132500001@news.asu.edu> John Kestner wrote: > > I'm thinking of getting a NeXTstation, and would like to know what kind of > apps are out there that can make it a useful machine to me(as opposed to a > beautiful example of industrial design sitting on my desk). The best place to look for this stuff is probably ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next You can also try ftp://peanuts.leo.org > The categories of software in which I am interested: > > DTP (something like Quark, maybe?) > all sorts of graphics (mostly bitmapped, little vector) including 3D > CAD/something like formZ > webdesign WebObjects :-) There are also a couple of HTML editors (I have one called WebWriter), and an imagemap creator (WebMapper). > light web/mailserver software? For mail, sendmail! Built in, of course. If you're looking for graphical ease-of-use, though, I don't know of any front ends. I expect this will be one of the new tools available from Apple. Apache is a pretty nice free Web server. Again, no front ends that I know of. > and of course internet surfing (mail, newsgroups, www). Mail.app comes w/ the system. You should get the EnhanceMail.bundle for it as well. I use RadicalNews for Usenet. I recall liking the interface for NewsFlash as well. OmniWeb for Web surfing. There's also Netsurfer. > Are there any notable apps in these categories? Especially shareware, of > course. And a way to transfer files to/from a Mac. FTP will work. NEXTSTEP will also read Mac-formatted media, such as floppies. > Also, please note whether any such apps would want color. I'd need to > justify a color NeXTstation (I'm leaning toward mono). Color is always nice, of course. However, I haven't really missed it on my mono system, except for one thing: Web surfing. Mono sucks for Web surfing. But then, Web surfing sucks over 28.8 anyway. ____________________________________________________________________ Leon von Stauber http://www.occam.com/leonvs/ Occam's Razor, Game Designer <leonvs@occam.com> PSW Technologies, System Administrator <leonvs@pswtech.com> MIDS, Web Developer <leonvs@mids.org> "We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!"
From: jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: Fri, 03 Jan 97 01:15:58 GMT Organization: RHAHMM Message-ID: <5ahmgp$73c@news3.texas.net> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <59s88u$63f@buffnet2.buffnet.net> In article <59s88u$63f@buffnet2.buffnet.net>, rwcrosby@buffnet.net (Rik Crosby) wrote: >Ya know, if I remember correctly, thi seems to be the EXACT same warning that >was floating around with Good Times. > >In article <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net>, mtm@insync.net says... >> >>What is this? Another "Good Time's Virus" scare? This is crazy. Email can't >>contain a virus. Maybe a binary attachment, but then you have to actually run >>it. Someday these people will learn.... >> >>In article <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net>, jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) wrote: >>>Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded >>>Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM >>> >>>Subject: Virus Alert [snip] I apologize for the virus alert post, which I have canceled. It was stupid of me to post it without checking it out first. -- John
From: Internet User <netuser@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 14:44:43 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John De Hoog wrote: > That's my basic list of requirements. Without these, I can see no > reason for me to switch from NT 4.0, which runs stably on my 486-based > system. (By stable, I mean it has never crashed once, and is running > the above programs 24 hours a day.) On the other hand, if I can get > similar applications for NeXTStep, and the OS itself becomes more > affordable, and the user interface is as advanced as people claim, and > it has other advantages over NT 4.0, it might be worth a look. If not, > what would be the point?? Good point, John. I myself have been using NeXTstep for quite some time now, and felt certain that Apple would choose NeXTstep over Be when the stupid Mac zealots in this newsgroup were caught in the grips of Be fever. And being also an NT user, I can totally see where you're coming from. The short answer to your question is that the combination of Mac OS and NeXTstep still does not yield all the applications that you require. To be quite blunt, in the marketplace both operating systems have been losers (even though technically they may indeed have winning points). When you add two losers together, you don't necessarily get a winner. I believe in the Apple/NeXT combination because it really does bring unique strengths to the Mac. But your question remains: is it enough? A few years ago the answer would have been a resounding yes. Today it is an emphatic no. The central problem here is that, in order to really succeed, Apple needs to be MAGNITUDES above the rest of the computing world, at least in some respects, the way that it used to be back in the late 80's and early 90's. Granted, subsuming NeXTstep into Mac OS is a neat idea, and can bring in some cool things, but will the combo be MAGNITUDES better than Windows? Nope. Apple worshippers will probably point to NeXT IB (Interface Builder) and lavish praise upon it and assert how there's nothing like it in the known universe. So riddle me this: if IB is as great as Steve Jobs claims, and makes programmers 10 to 50 times more productive, then where are the flood of NeXTstep applications? Taking Jobs words at face value, one should expect 10 to 50 times the software that NeXTstep's tiny marketshare can otherwise claim. That ain't the case, guys. I'm not knocking IB. I do like it. I also appreciate the nice work that's been done with it, most notably Improv, Doom and Quake. But the real deal that makes programmers more productive turns out not to be OOP (Object-Oriented Programming) like IB, but rather quasi-OOP componentware like VB (Visual Basic). Just take a look at any shareware archive and note the sheer quantity of software that's been done with VB or Delphi. That's what real programmer productivity looks like. In terms of stability, I believe my NeXTstep running on a 68040 is about as stable and responsive as NT on a 486. However, crashes are also not totally unknown in the NeXTstep world. So it goes.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 3 Jan 1997 00:15:07 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5ahj2b$clq@news4.digex.net> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> Internet User <netuser@earthlink.net> wrote: >> Apple worshippers will probably point to NeXT IB (Interface >> Builder) and lavish praise upon it and assert how there's nothing >> like it in the known universe. So riddle me this: if IB is as >> great as Steve Jobs claims, and makes programmers 10 to > 50 times more productive, then where are the flood of NeXTstep > applications? Taking Jobs words at face value, one should expect > 10 to 50 times the software that NeXTstep's tiny marketshare can > otherwise claim. That ain't the case, guys. Well, think about it...there may be 1/1000th or 1/10,000th the number of developers under NeXTSTEP. They are individually more productive as the HUGE wealth of free/shareware will attest. But they cannot make up for the huge difference in manpower on other platforms. For much the same reason, ms platforms have a TON more software. > I'm not knocking IB. I do like it. I also appreciate the nice > work that's been done with it, most notably Improv, Doom and > Quake. But the real deal that makes programmers more productive > turns out not to be OOP (Object-Oriented Programming) like IB, > but rather quasi-OOP componentware like VB (Visual Basic). Just > take a look at any shareware archive and note the sheer quantity > of software that's been done with VB or Delphi. That's what real > programmer productivity looks like. What a load of poop. VB has resulted in a lot of stuff b/c it's rammed down people's throats. Much like C++. Delphi is FULL OOP and is a fantastic environment. I'd put it 2nd after NeXT's tools. -- Thanks, later, John Kheit monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NEXTmail OK NEXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Opinions expressed represent me only
From: "Derek Lin" <dereklin@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 3 Jan 1997 00:35:49 GMT Organization: Workgroup Message-ID: <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> Internt User wrote: > Good point, John. I myself have been using NeXTstep for quite some time now, and felt > certain that Apple would choose NeXTstep over Be when the stupid Mac zealots in this > newsgroup were caught in the grips of Be fever. And being also an NT user, I can > totally see where you're coming from. Internet User, I'm sure you would like to claim sagacious prescience, but can you prove it? I can with the message I posted on this newsgroup back in November 15, 1996. For those who don't know Dejanews, I will excerpt as follows: *EXCERPT BEGIN* The NeXTstep Connection Everyone's attention is now riveted to the BeOS, which really does offer fresh new ideas. At the risk of downplaying Be, I'd like to say that NeXTstep should also be considered as an alternative OS for Power Macs. And why not, indeed? NeXTstep is based on Unix, so it will certainly take care of multitasking concerns. Unlike BeOS, it has an established track record, and has matured nicely over the years. NeXT is also quite experienced by now with porting to different platforms, and boasts of technical talents who are intimately familiar with the Macintosh architecture. If NeXT software engineers can make NeXTstep perform acceptably on a 25-MHz 68040, just imagine how NeXTstep will run on the latest PowerPC-based Macs! * EXCERPT END* In terms of interface, the NeXT is pretty good, but still has shortcomings. For instance, its menu system, while impressive to technonerds, really takes up too much screen real estate. It's also by default where a tool bar for a graphics app (like Corel, Illustrator, Photoshop, Freehand, and many others) is likely to be. It would be best to retain the NeXT menu's black 3D looks, as well as its tear-off capability, but make it horizontal like a self-respecting Mac menu at the top of the screen. The right mouse button (yes, Virginia, future Macs ought to have 2 buttons) can behave as it does in NeXTstep: make a temporary copy of the menu appear wherever it is clicked. This elegantly solves the big-screen problem, where most users have to travel a long way to get to the top of the screen, just to traverse the menu tree. I agree that NeXTstep won't make Macs miles ahead of PCs, and your comment about IB is right on. However, I remain hopeful that this new OS strategy will revitalize the Macintosh world in a way that Apple alone has failed to do.
From: "Karl Thomas" <karlt@ilinks.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Date: 3 Jan 1997 00:44:40 GMT Organization: Zip News Message-ID: <01bbf90f$31920760$acc289ce@ns1.ilinks.net> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <carol1-2212961927330001@macip-ara-153.apple.com> <32be96c1.37286449@news.sover.net> <32BE991D.7AB7@sfbayrun.com> <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> <AEED18A9-17E66@207.158.13.7> <19970101070158114990@peu1-115.m.eunet.de> <01bbf7be$ddc14b60$84c289ce@ns1.ilinks.net> <1997010222484931632@peu1-87.m.eunet.de> Wolfgang Keller <wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de> wrote in article <1997010222484931632@peu1-87.m.eunet.de>... > X-no-archive: yes > > Karl Thomas <karlt@ilinks.net> wrote: > > > While I agree that the idea of running applications remotely on a single > > user system is not the same as running an app remotely using X, I wouldn't > > go as far as saying running apps remotely doesn't make any sense on a > > single user system. If you're on the road and you might need to access > > your desktop remotely or take advantage of resources that aren't available > > on your laptop. > > Sorry if I didn't explain clearly enough: Is was not talking about > remote access to file sharing networks. Afaik this is already a common > standard feature of most network systems. Neither was I, programs like PCAnywhere or Timbuktu let you control another computer remotely as if you were actually sitting down to the host computer. You see the same thing on your screen as the host computer sees on there's.
From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Black vs. White Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 3 Jan 1997 03:23:16 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5ahu34$1fu8@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226> <01bbf81b$3990d8a0$102c1281@demoroom> Eren Kotan (Eren_Kotan@next.com) wrote: : What did you want to know, specifically? Compile speed? Graphics : performance? IO? : Let me know. I am curious how well a Pentium compares against the DSP on Black hardware? And does most/all audio software use the DSP? Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114@cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Favorite sendmail bugs Date: 2 Jan 1997 19:46:14 GMT Organization: Individual - France Message-ID: <5ah3a6$1ek@precipice.fdn.fr> References: <32BD0901.48ED@sfbayrun.com> <59kdkl$ohd@news4.digex.net> <E2vBuB.22J@micmac.com> <jinx6568-3012961209030001@news.sover.net> <32c95a03.169884656@mambo> <5a9vsr$4fs@camel5.mindspring.com> dleblanc@mindspring.com (David LeBlanc) wrote: >sangria@inlink.com (Sang K. Choe) wrote: > >>Sendmail is everything. >>It's dessert topping, a floor cleaner and a kitchen sink. > >>And because it's everything, it's so damn ugly. Complex, huge and >>cryptic as hell. Making it extremely bug prone. > >>My favorite sendmail bug: > >>The one that lets you send a mail to any file on the host machine. >>Say something like /etc/passwd...being able to overwrite the >>/etc/passwd file with something like: > >The one I like the most is the one where it tries to contact your >identd, so your identd tells it to execute commands like mailing >/etc/passwd to the postmaster... > >Then there is your choice of buffer overflows and versions. > >I think the one you're talking about is fairly old, and involves the >uudecode/uuencode aliases. Yes, sendmail is complex. It is complex because it does a lot things. Since it is complex it can contains bugs. But since it is useda lot on Internet, it is now one of the most tested software on unix. You will be able to find still new bugs but more the time will go on more it will be hard to find bugs. Now you can do lite version of sendmail, fo small servers. But you won't have powerfull mail server. If you must manage huge sites, with a huge number of people with different ways of tranfering mails (not only TCP/IP connections), with a different service to offer (aliases, groups, autoreply and new actually unexisting services), you may opt for sendmail. One reason because Apple bought NeXT was because they offer products for Fortune 500. Apple too has a "pro" servers line : they run under AIX (IBM Unix), no ? Hugues. -------------------------------------------------------------------- hugues@precipice.fdn.fr - French, English, Italian and a few JP ->OK ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: kpc@enteract.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How do I Network Colorstation to Power Mac via ethernet? Date: 3 Jan 1997 02:36:05 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <5ahral$g8t@eve.enteract.com> References: <32C8AE54.7ED8@cts.com> You can use TCP/IP and ethernet to move files around pretty easily. Log into the Next from the Mac with Fetch, for example, or run NetPresenze on the Mac. (assuming you have IP addressing on both ends.) Your Zip disks will also mount locally on black hardware (using the Zip drive, of course). FWIW, I am compiling a Next-Mac hardware comparison/connectivitiy FAQ to document some of the questions that have bubbled up in the wake of the merger. Critiques are also welcome. see: http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html -Kevin Coffee In How do I Network Colorstation to Power Mac via ethernet? comp.sys.next.software <ArticleDisplayer: 0xb4d04> writes, > What is required to network my still cool but aging Turbo color > Nextstation (3.2) to my new screaming fast Power Computing Powertower > Pro 180? I hear it is pretty easy with ethernet. Any tips, comments, > instructions or guidence would be helpful!!!! I am not a complete > networking novice but have no experience getting a Slab to talk to a > Mac. > This may save me from getting a zip drive for the Next to transfer > large graphics files back and forth. > > Mac and Next together atlast..........should have happened years > ago........ > love them both > > E-mail me or post in the newsgroup. > > Thanks > Paul Naton > pnatona@cts.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701021857.KAA22618@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <199701020019.BAA24698@sally.ifm.uni-kiel.de> From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 97 13:57:26 -0500 Subject: ZSH 3.0.2 now works GREAT on NeXTSTEP!!!! References: <199701020019.BAA24698@sally.ifm.uni-kiel.de> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Thanks to the ZSH team, the necessary changes have been made and ZSH 3.0.2 now works fantastically with NeXTStep on my 68040/25MHz mono machine. If there is sufficient interest I will put together a QuadFat distribution for NeXTStep. Email me if you're interested. Thanks to Wolfgang Hukriede <whukriede@ifm.uni-kiel.de> who discovered the fix, and Zoltan Hidvegi <hzoli@cs.elte.hu> who repacked 3.0.2 to include the necessary fix. ZSH can be found here: HUNGARY ftp://ftp.cs.elte.hu/pub/zsh/ -- primary site http://www.cs.elte.hu/pub/zsh/ -- the same archive via http ftp://ftp.kfki.hu/pub/packages/zsh/ Australia * ftp://ftp.ips.oz.au/pub/packages/zsh/ Finland ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/unix/shells/zsh/ France ftp://ftp.cenatls.cena.dgac.fr/pub/shells/zsh/ Germany ftp://ftp.prz.tu-berlin.de/pub/unix/shells/zsh/ ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/pub/unix/shells/zsh/ ftp://ftp.gmd.de/packages/zsh/ Japan ftp://ftp.tohoku.ac.jp/mirror/zsh/ ftp://shirakaba.nis.co.jp/pub/shells/zsh/ Norway ftp://ftp.uit.no/pub/unix/shells/zsh/ Slovenia ftp://ftp.siol.net/pub/unix/shells/zsh/ Sweden ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/unix/zsh/ UK ftp://ftp.net.lut.ac.uk/zsh/ USA ftp://ftp.math.gatech.edu/pub/zsh/ ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/packages/shells/zsh/ * ftp://ftp.sterling.com/zsh/ * ftp://ftp.rge.com/pub/shells/zsh/ The sites marked with a star (*) may mirror ftp.math.gatech.edu instead of the primary site. Life is good! TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
From: "Derek Lin" <dereklin@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 3 Jan 1997 02:22:16 GMT Organization: Workgroup Message-ID: <01bbf91d$ced2a620$c1ca95ce@aventar> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <5ahj2b$clq@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote: > Well, think about it...there may be 1/1000th or 1/10,000th the > number of developers under NeXTSTEP. They are individually more > productive as the HUGE wealth of free/shareware will attest. Okay, I have thought about about it. I have also purchased all the NeXTstep shareware CD-ROMs. I still don't see the HUGE wealth you alluded to. Maybe Internet User has a point there. > What a load of poop. VB has resulted in a lot of stuff b/c it's > rammed down people's throats. Much like C++. Delphi is FULL OOP > and is a fantastic environment. I'd put it 2nd after NeXT's tools. You're right. Delphi is full OOP, not quasi-OOP as Internet User seems to imply. I disagree with you though about VB. I play with it and I find it very useful for creating customized system automation routines. Nobody rammed it down my throat; it's a nice product, period. And I suspect other Visual Basic users also didn't have VB rammed down their throats by Microsoft. Which forces me to conclude that you just may be full of pOOP as well. Cheers.
From: edward_xu@vos.stratus.com (Edward Xu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Chinese system. Date: 3 Jan 1997 03:57:11 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <5ai02n$l9i@transfer.stratus.com> Hi! I want to access Chinese web page. Does anyone know where to get Chinese system on NeXT. Do we have Chinese system on NeXT? Any information. Thanks. Edward.
From: dleblanc@mindspring.com (David LeBlanc) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Favorite sendmail bugs Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 04:53:13 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ai3a2$r4p@camel5.mindspring.com> References: <32BD0901.48ED@sfbayrun.com> <59kdkl$ohd@news4.digex.net> <E2vBuB.22J@micmac.com> <jinx6568-3012961209030001@news.sover.net> <32c95a03.169884656@mambo> <5a9vsr$4fs@camel5.mindspring.com> <5ah3a6$1ek@precipice.fdn.fr> hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) wrote: >dleblanc@mindspring.com (David LeBlanc) wrote: >>The one I like the most is the one where it tries to contact your >>identd, so your identd tells it to execute commands like mailing >>/etc/passwd to the postmaster... >>Then there is your choice of buffer overflows and versions. >>I think the one you're talking about is fairly old, and involves the >>uudecode/uuencode aliases. >Yes, sendmail is complex. >It is complex because it does a lot things. Since it is complex it >can contains bugs. But since it is useda lot on Internet, it is now >one of the most tested software on unix. You will be able to find >still new bugs but more the time will go on more it will be hard to >find bugs. I don't think so. Some very old bugs just cropped back up again in very recent versions. The fact is that all but the most recent are known to be vulnerable to attacks, both external and internal. I believe all versions prior to 8.7 are considered vulnerable to a number of different attacks, and several of the 8.7 and later series have problems. There is a new version nearly every month as new bugs are discovered. David LeBlanc |Why would you want to have your desktop user, dleblanc@mindspring.com |your mere mortals, messing around with a 32-bit |minicomputer-class computing environment? |Scott McNealy
From: "Gregory H. Anderson" <greg@afs.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 00:43:57 -0500 Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <32CC9C9D.7298@afs.com> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <5ahj2b$clq@news4.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Kheit wrote: > > Internet User <netuser@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Apple worshippers will probably point to NeXT IB (Interface > >> Builder) and lavish praise upon it and assert how there's nothing > >> like it in the known universe. So riddle me this: if IB is as > >> great as Steve Jobs claims, and makes programmers 10 to > > 50 times more productive, then where are the flood of NeXTstep > > applications? Taking Jobs words at face value, one should expect > > 10 to 50 times the software that NeXTstep's tiny marketshare can > > otherwise claim. That ain't the case, guys. > > Well, think about it...there may be 1/1000th or 1/10,000th the > number of developers under NeXTSTEP. They are individually more > productive as the HUGE wealth of free/shareware will attest. But > they cannot make up for the huge difference in manpower on other > platforms. For much the same reason, ms platforms have a TON more > software. As one of those precious few developers making shrink-wrapped NeXT apps, I'll chime in with the real issue. The original poster is confusing MCCA (mission critical custom apps) and commercial apps. From a developer perspective, MCCA _creates_ demand (brings new users to the platform), whereas commercial apps can only _feed_ demand. No one is going to switch to a new platform just because it has a better word processor. There is a substantial development advantage for corporate applications which perform specific jobs, and that is where NEXTSTEP has always told the best story. Since the app is fully funded as a private project for a very limited audience, it is only in competition with other development alternatives on that platform. Commercial apps, on the other hand, must commit to a competitive feature set, the need for continuous enhancement, customer service, marketing costs, and end-user materials. A lot of these are "sunk costs" which must be amortized over a user population. Any smart businessman is going to calculate the break-even user count and decide whether that goal is attainable given the total users committed to the platform. My best guess is that no more than 100,000 copies of NEXTSTEP were ever sold on all hardware platforms combined. Not all of those went to end users, and many fell out of use over the period. Even if you developed a killer app that could capture 25% of that market, you weren't going to sell more than 20,000 copies. Once it became apparent about two years ago that the platofrm was never oing to make it to the mainstream (NeXT pretty much admitted that through its positioning), you couldn't even justify "betting on the come." To the best of my knowledge, only one developer ever cracked the 5-figure license mark for any application. Now here's the key point. I have two pretty good, mid-line DTP and WP applications. I see a market which is larger by several orders of magnitude. Darn right I'm gonna plunge right in and add all those new features I've been itching to build. And you know what? I'm gonna get it out the door at a pace that would make a grown man weep and children raise their arms to the sky in wonderment. THAT'S where the NEXTSTEP development advantage will pay off for me. Once others see this same advantage, they will start building some of the software that has been missing on Mac. If you don't feel like everything will turn into a two-year project, you can afford to take some risks on wacky new ideas and feed new momentum to a market. You can also turn around new version much more quickly. That's what I think all you old-timers have to look forward to. > > > I'm not knocking IB. I do like it. I also appreciate the nice > > work that's been done with it, most notably Improv, Doom and > > Quake. But the real deal that makes programmers more productive > > turns out not to be OOP (Object-Oriented Programming) like IB, > > but rather quasi-OOP componentware like VB (Visual Basic). Just > > take a look at any shareware archive and note the sheer quantity > > of software that's been done with VB or Delphi. That's what real > > programmer productivity looks like. > > What a load of poop. VB has resulted in a lot of stuff b/c it's > rammed down people's throats. Much like C++. Delphi is FULL OOP > and is a fantastic environment. I'd put it 2nd after NeXT's tools. As someone who evaluated them all, went with Delphi, and never regretted it for a minute, I concur wholeheartedly with John. BTW, Delphi is NOT quasi-OOP, it is full OOP of a type that is only achieved by NEXTSTEP in my experience. NEVER mention it in the same sentence with VB. Greg
From: <pjbrew@ix.netcom.com> (Phil Brewster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 23:44:37 -0700 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <-0201972344370001@slc-ut1-21.ix.netcom.com> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> In article <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com>, dehoog@bc.mbn.or.jp wrote: > I'm currently using Windows NT Workstation (4.0). After evaluating > hundreds of applications, I have found several that are of the > "essential" variety. For me to use the NeXT system, I would need > replacements for all or most of these. > > Does NeXTStep currently have good applications of the following kinds? > > (1) Offline news readers for dialup accounts > Prime examples: Forte Agent, Gravity, MS Internet News > > (2) Offline Web agents (for checking sites automatically and > downloading changes for offline viewing) > Prime examples: Tierra Highlights, Surfbot, Teleport Pro > > (3) File synchronization utilities (for reflecting changes onto a > backup MO drive) > > (4) POP email clients that handle multiple accounts in one interface, > and are able to handle Japanese > > (5) Up-to-date Web browser support > > (6) Wordprocessing software compatible with MS Word 6.0 or later > > (7) Spreadsheet software comparable to MS Excel > > In addition, the system should have the ability to dial up > automatically to my Internet providers on demand, as I now do with > RAS. > > That's my basic list of requirements. Without these, I can see no > reason for me to switch from NT 4.0, which runs stably on my 486-based > system. (By stable, I mean it has never crashed once, and is running > the above programs 24 hours a day.) On the other hand, if I can get > similar applications for NeXTStep, and the OS itself becomes more > affordable, and the user interface is as advanced as people claim, and > it has other advantages over NT 4.0, it might be worth a look. If not, > what would be the point?? > ------ > John De Hoog > dehoog@super.zippo.com I don't know much about the current availability of apps on NeXTStep, though somebody else in this thread has already indicated that it's not currently at such a point that switching from NT with a specific set of key apps in mind today would make much sense. -- Maybe others will be able to fill in some of the specific gaps with things that are available on NeXTStep today, but it will likely be the case that not everything on the list is there yet. Nor would I find this all that surprising, given NeXTStep's rather insulated existence in the market up until now. The question is, whether more apps will become available in the next year, so that by the time the NeXTstep OS is more affordable one might reasonably (and comfortably) consider switching. And it's probably still early to say. Mac users will face similar issues, needless to say, and the question as to when the critical mass of key apps has been reached on the new OS will be answered differently in almost every case. Cheers, -- Phil Brewster <pjbrew@ix.netcom.com> "[NT Server] received the fewest 'very good' votes for ease of use by end users, and users ranked Microsoft least favorably of all the companies in terms of support staff responsiveness. Also, NT tied [...] in lowest score for performance, and survey respondents gave NT the fewest 'very good' votes for reliability. [...] Despite the apparent shortcomings of NT, more NT users said they would recommend NT to other corporate buyers than did users of any other [...] system." ("Computerworld", November 4, 1996, p. 104) Sounds more like corporate sabotage to me.... ;-)
From: nervous@system.net (Nervous) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 02:02:13 -0500 Organization: Central Nervous System Message-ID: <nervous-ya02408000R0301970202130001@news.netrover.com> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar>, "Derek Lin" <dereklin@ix.netcom.com> wrote: €In terms of interface, the NeXT is pretty good, but still has shortcomings. €For instance, its menu system, while impressive to technonerds, really €takes up too much screen real estate. How more obvious can you get? This statement is the key to 90% of Mac UI vs. NeXTStep UI that have been the hott topic of discussion on this and other related ngs. If there is a way to measure it: How many 'regular folks' use MacOS compared to NeXTStep? There's a larger market for the 'regular folks' then there are with the 'technonerds.' I thought the computer business was all about sales. €It's also by default where a tool bar €for a graphics app (like Corel, Illustrator, Photoshop, Freehand, and many €others) is likely to be. Something that the NeXT folks forget about. A program that might be elegant under NeXTStep UI maybe just awful under MacOS UI. For example: I use Emagic's LOGIC Audio MIDI/Audio sequencer. A NeXT-style menu and left-sided window scrolls would kill LOGIC's UI. LOGIC just wasn't designed this way. €It would be best to retain the NeXT menu's black €3D looks, Naw...looks like black Win95/NT. I like the Copland default look. € as well as its tear-off capability, but make it horizontal like a €self-respecting Mac menu at the top of the screen. The right mouse button €(yes, Virginia, future Macs ought to have 2 buttons) can behave as it does €in NeXTstep: make a temporary copy of the menu appear wherever it is €clicked. This elegantly solves the big-screen problem, where most users €have to travel a long way to get to the top of the screen, just to traverse €the menu tree. Hey! Just like an Amiga! =) €I agree that NeXTstep won't make Macs miles ahead of PCs, and your comment €about IB is right on. However, I remain hopeful that this new OS strategy €will revitalize the Macintosh world in a way that Apple alone has failed to €do. Only if they keep it 'Mac.' -- GO Mac GO!!!
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Favorite sendmail bugs Date: 3 Jan 1997 07:39:10 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-f-69.usc.edu Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5aid2u$89@usc.edu> References: <32BD0901.48ED@sfbayrun.com> <59kdkl$ohd@news4.digex.net> <E2vBuB.22J@micmac.com> <jinx6568-3012961209030001@news.sover.net> <32c95a03.169884656@mambo> <5a9vsr$4fs@camel5.mindspring.com> <5ah3a6$1ek@precipice.fdn.fr> <5ai3a2$r4p@camel5.mindspring.com> Cc: dleblanc@mindspring.com In <5ai3a2$r4p@camel5.mindspring.com> David LeBlanc wrote: > I don't think so. Some very old bugs just cropped back up again in > very recent versions. The fact is that all but the most recent are > known to be vulnerable to attacks, both external and internal. I > believe all versions prior to 8.7 are considered vulnerable to a > number of different attacks, and several of the 8.7 and later series > have problems. There is a new version nearly every month as new bugs > are discovered. I think that qmail might be offering something more secure. At least it seems to... -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mattj@invisix.com Subject: VWbot on NeXT Message-ID: <137cd$13213.3d1@news.goldengate.net> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 07:50:19 GMT Hey there, Has anyone been able to get the VWbot running on NEXTSTEP? (http://vancouver-webpages.com/VWbot/) It's quite an interesting one. Thanks for any info... -- MATT | mailto:mattj@invisix.com NeXTMail Ok jurcich | http://www.invisix.com Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 24MB, 250MB, NEC XP21, NEXTSTEP 3.2 Novell Netware 3.12-10 Server, 486DX2-66, 240MB, 8MB
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701022342.SAA01608@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 97 18:42:40 -0500 Subject: uninstalling Emacs.app Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Yes I realize this is like urinating on the altar to some of you, but I'm about to run out of diskspace and my wallet is still suffering post-Christmas withdrawl. There's no .pkg file. Anyone know how to clean it all out? sorry to offend TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
From: edward_xu@vos.stratus.com (Edward Xu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: system deteriorate Date: 3 Jan 1997 08:37:09 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <5aigfl$sc1@transfer.stratus.com> Hi! I often use OmniWeb to access internet or use ImageViewer to view some jpeg files. But as I use these software, my disk space keep on decreasing, even if I quit from these program, I can't retrieve those disk space. In fact, when I use many program at the same time, the swapfile keep on growing up. For example, in the beginning, I have 100MB disk space on disk. Often I viewed some jpeg files, I find that my disk space is reduced to 50MB. My PC has 32MB memory, I think it should be enough for several programs to run simultaneously. I don't like this, because I have to reboot my PC to clean up the swapfile. Anyone can tell me is there any way to retrieve my disk space without reboot the system. Maybe this is the attribute of NeXT? Edward.
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 3 Jan 1997 08:42:28 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <5aigpk$mft@nntp1.best.com> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> In-Reply-To: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> On 01/01/97, John De Hoog wrote: >I'm currently using Windows NT Workstation (4.0). After evaluating >hundreds of applications, I have found several that are of the >"essential" variety. For me to use the NeXT system, I would need >replacements for all or most of these. >Does NeXTStep currently have good applications of the following kinds? Everyone got off on flaming tangents and noone answered the origina question. >(1) Offline news readers for dialup accounts >Prime examples: Forte Agent, Gravity, MS Internet News There are a variety of good NNTP news readers... NewsFlash (www.wolfware.com) (which I wrote btw) and Radical News are commercial and Alexandra is free. Any of these can be made into an "offline" reader using the Personal-INN package for instance to set up a local NNTP server. >(2) Offline Web agents (for checking sites automatically and >downloading changes for offline viewing) >Prime examples: Tierra Highlights, Surfbot, Teleport Pro I believe you can use Apache to do this but have never done it. >(3) File synchronization utilities (for reflecting changes onto a >backup MO drive) No. There is an excellent tape backup program called Safety-Net though but nothing that works to keep files on a removable drive synchronized. (Of course you could just set up a cron job to run every hour, day, whatever to do this but that's rather kludgy.) >(4) POP email clients that handle multiple accounts in one interface, There's a great pop client PopOver that will do this. >and are able to handle Japanese I dunno about this but why should the POP client have to understand Japanese??? The POP protocol just uses a standard 7/8 bit character set. Interpretting the contents of the messages is up to the mail reader which is a separate app. And yes as far as I know Mail.app can handle Japanese just fine. >(5) Up-to-date Web browser support OmniWeb (www.omnigroup.com) is about the most up to date and supports HTML 3.2 fairly completely but does not handle plug-ins or some of the more esoteric Netscapisms. NetSurfer is the other major competitor. There have been persistent rumors of an OpenStep NetScape port. >(6) Wordprocessing software compatible with MS Word 6.0 or later No. There are a couple of decent word processors (none of which I've used) but nothing with all the features of MS Word. >(7) Spreadsheet software comparable to MS Excel There are a variety of spreadsheets but I'm not familiar with any of them. >In addition, the system should have the ability to dial up >automatically to my Internet providers on demand, as I now do with >RAS. The PPP package can be configured to do this with a bit of work. >On the other hand, if I can get >similar applications for NeXTStep, and the OS itself becomes more >affordable, and the user interface is as advanced as people claim, and >it has other advantages over NT 4.0, it might be worth a look. If not, >what would be the point?? If you're interested in devloping OpenStep applications but don't want to give up your NT apps you can alwasy run OpenStep for NT which gives you all the OpenStep API running on top of NT. >------ >John De Hoog >dehoog@super.zippo.com > -- __________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf - NeXTStep/OpenStep Developer Mail: cwolf@wolfware.com Web: http://www.wolfware.com/cwolf/cwolf.shtml __________________________________________________
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:02:48 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E3FLGp.D1L@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> In article <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> dehoog@bc.mbn.or.jp (John De Hoog) writes: > I'm currently using Windows NT Workstation (4.0). After evaluating > hundreds of applications, I have found several that are of the > "essential" variety. For me to use the NeXT system, I would need > replacements for all or most of these. > > Does NeXTStep currently have good applications of the following kinds? > > (1) Offline news readers for dialup accounts > Prime examples: Forte Agent, Gravity, MS Internet News These don't make sense under Unix. You set up a news feed, which moves the news from your provider to you machine. You can then point you online reader at your own local server just as if it was the one at your provider (but no phone bills). > (2) Offline Web agents (for checking sites automatically and > downloading changes for offline viewing) > Prime examples: Tierra Highlights, Surfbot, Teleport Pro They exist but I don't know if they're available publically. (webcrawler springs to mind!) > (3) File synchronization utilities (for reflecting changes onto a > backup MO drive) dump? Safetynet. A five line shellscript? > (4) POP email clients that handle multiple accounts in one interface, > and are able to handle Japanese NeXTStep kanji handles Japanese for all apps. Popover (never used it) See (1) > (5) Up-to-date Web browser support Omniweb is pretty good, but no Java. > (6) Wordprocessing software compatible with MS Word 6.0 or later Framemaker Wordperfect Writeup Pasteup Pages Cedarword Which of these meets your needs depends on what you mean be "compatable". Personally I prefer TeX > (7) Spreadsheet software comparable to MS Excel Improv (killer app!) Wingz About five others I don't remember. Some of these may not be exactly what you wanted, but they indicate where NeXTStep is NOW. Exactly where MacStep will be where it ships is another matter. $an
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: reba999@ucl.ac.uk (Michael Binks) Subject: Speech recognition/transcription Sender: news@ucl.ac.uk (Usenet News System) Message-ID: <1997010314080110218@dialup-1.ucl.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:08:01 GMT Organization: UCL Is there any Speech recognition/transcription software available for NEXTStep ? I am a longstanding Mac user, about to upgrade my machine. I badly need speech to text software and I am not concerned about a requirement for discontinuous speech. Apple's offerings seem rudimentary and I have not heard about significant forthcoming developments. PowerSecretary for the Mac is reportedly reliable and efficient, but grossly overpriced for the full (medical) version. IBM's offerings in this area are impressive. Is my new PC going to have to be Wintel / OS-2 ? Or is there some hope from the NEXT arena ? -- Michael Binks Work: 0171 636 8333 Ext 3204 Department of Immunology Home: 0171 278 6624 University College London Fax: 0171 636 5481
From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Why is NeXT shipping quad-fat Openstep CD's? Date: 3 Jan 1997 13:59:52 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <5aj3co$t81@leonie.object-factory.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Okay, we all know that HP-PA support was dropped with the introduction of OPENSTEP. How do we know? NeXT told us, the boxes and CDs say so, Installer says so etc. Given all this, could somebody explain to my why the latest Developer CD (OPENSTEP Developer 4.1 for Mach) is completely quad-fat? I mean, not only the applications (if that were not enough!) but also all the libraries and frameworks! Is this the last act of NeXT's marketing to tease (torture?) HP owners? puzzled erik -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik Dörnenburg OBJECT FACTORY Gesellschaft für Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH http://www.object-factory.com
From: awdorn@primenet.com (Alexander W. Dorn) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "power" pc chips can eat s*** Date: 3 Jan 1997 10:13:07 -0700 Organization: Primenet Message-ID: <5ajen3$s8t@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5ah1a8$hiq@news.Hawaii.Edu> <852261978mnewsHunky@cirrus.prestel.co.uk> Hunky@cirrus.prestel.co.uk (Henry Blackman) wrote: >According to the latest issue of Amiga Format (Future Publishing UK) if Quikpak purchase Amiga >Technologies (please, please), their new version of Amiga will be DEC Alpha and low end machines will >continue to run on 680x0 series (they say 070, 080... - but Motorola have PUBLICALLY said no new 0x0 >series processors). >What's going on here? Why DEC Alpha, when the rest of the Amiga community are moving toward PowerPC; >which are cheaper; AND would enable Quikpak to release lower end machines based on RISC technology as >well as high end machines based on the SAME processors THUS enabling users/developers to have the >same applications running on their machines (take a breath...). >Henry. Consider This. There is talk (and as far as I know, it is only talk) that Microsoft is no longer going to support non-intel processors with WinNT. Then consider that most of the high-end graphics houses that used Amiga-based software have shifted to Alpha-based machines, and are now running WinNT-based versions of the formerly Amiga software (such as Lightwave). Might it be possible that the people at Quikpak do not see themselves as being able to compete with the Wintel machines in the market, as they do not have the resources that Microsoft has, and so they have looked for another market they can focus on and make a tidy profit in? Also remember, this does not mean that there will be no PowerAmiga, but that, perhaps, Quikpak do not see a profit in it, and perhaps are willing to let others (aka PIOS and Phase5) deal with this mid-range type of machine. If a standard AmigaOS is put out there, or a standard NonAmiga OS that will run on Amigas as well as these other machines, then what difference does it make in exactly who builds the machine? Just think, a DEC Alpha machine that can not only out-render a current Amiga (or PC), but can also run the Video Flyer! Just a thought!
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple Myths/Facts Message-ID: <8CF61EB.09B8000020.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 97 08:11:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Debunking the Apple-NeXT myths 1/02/97 Chicago Sun-Times On Dec. 20, Apple Computer announced its intention to purchase NeXT Software Inc. in a friendly acquisition for $400 million ($350 million in cash and $50 million in assumed debt). As part of the agreement, Steve Jobs, chairman and CEO of NeXT Software, will return to Apple - the company he co- founded in 1976 with Stephen Wozniak - reporting to Gilbert F. Amelio, Apple's chairman and CEO, as a special consultant and "visionary." Pretty straightforward announcement, don't you think? Not to some, apparently. It's time now to let the hot air cool down by flushing it with some cold, hard facts. Let me debunk the NeXT/Apple myths floating around the ether. MYTH 1: Apple is discontinuing the sale of Macintosh personal computers in favor of NeXT PCs, leaving Mac owners out in the cold. Reality: NeXT does not make hardware and hasn't for years. Apple's buyout of NeXT was predicated on two things: (1) getting its hands on NeXTStep, the NeXT operating system that runs on a variety of computers, and (2) bringing back to Apple talented NeXT executives and engineers needed to help create the NeXT Mac OS. Apple will continue to sell Macintosh hardware running the System 7.x operating system and eventually the NeXT Mac OS as it is developed during 1997. MYTH 2: Current Apple products won't support the NeXT Mac OS. Reality: "Products we are shipping today we will provide support for," Apple Chief Technical Officer Ellen Hancock says. MYTH 3: Apple is dumping the Finder (its easy-to-use interface of windows, icons and a mouse pointer) for the jazzy NeXTStep user interface (UI) that is based on the UNIX OS. Reality: The NeXT Mac OS currently exists only in the fertile imaginations of some Apple and NeXT engineers. Whether that OS offers a Finderlike UI or a NeXTSteplike UI has yet to be decided. The strategic Apple plan, however, is to offer a UI that can be made to look and work like the Finder or NeXTStep. This change already had been in the works with Apple's development of Copland - the internally developed Mac OS that fizzled after six years of wasted development effort - and its Appearance Manager. MYTH 4: Existing Mac software will not work with the NeXT Mac operating system. Reality: How would we know this, when the NeXT Mac OS does not yet exist? In any case, both Hancock and Jobs have stated that it's a requirement that any future OS run Mac applications. Apple developers have been told exactly the same thing. So yes, the NeXT Mac OS will run current Mac applications, most likely using a kind of fast emulation, just as Apple has provided with System 7.x on native PowerMacs for running pre-PowerMac software. MYTH 5: Apple's future OS development work will center on NeXT, rather than System 7.x. Reality: This is hardly hot news. Apple future OS development work (with Copland) already has been centered on Mac OS 8 rather than System 7.x. And this has been the case for at least three years. Of course Apple is concentrating on NeXTStep. That's why they bought it. NeXTStep will form the basis of the NeXT Mac OS, along with system services from System 7.x that provide the "Mac user experience." Apple abandoned plans to continue development on Copland back in August, and reminded developers of this fact in October, so this is hardly a "shocking change." MYTH 6: the NeXT Mac OS will not run at all on existing Macs running the Motorola 680x0 line of CPUs. Reality: Neither would have Copland. Apple announced this fact about two years ago. And considering that Apple is selling PowerMacs at the rate of more than 4 million per year, the installed base of Macs already is making the switch to PowerMacs. More than half of all the Macs currently in use are PowerMacs, so this is really a non-issue. Consider also that Apple will continue to tweak and refine System 7.x (System 7.6 will ship in January and 7.7 in July) in a series of twice-yearly updates, so that it expects to sell System 7.x for as long as 10 years, thus protecting the installed base of Macs that won't be able to run the NeXT Mac OS. Also note that the current NeXTStep will run on 680x0 CPUs, as well as Intel CPUs - which means Apple could make the NeXT Mac OS run on both if it desired (I suspect that an Intel version of the NeXT Mac OS is a lock, by the way). Furthermore, according to Apple's Hancock, "System 7 upgrades will continue into 1998 and (beyond) until current customers have migrated to the new OS." Why NeXT? Apple, of course, has been searching for a new Mac OS for six years now, as the Copland project painfully points out. With Apple developers being promised a new, modern Mac OS at the last three annual World Wide Developer's Conferences, developers were starting to leave the Mac fold in droves. And customers, who loved the Mac UI and Mac way of working, were tiring of an operating system missing many of the modern underpinnings (like protected memory and preemptive multitasking) that Windows 95 has had from the get-go and that help computers run with fewer annoying crashes. As a result of Apple's OS woes, one of Hancock's first chores as the new Apple chief technical officer (she came on board in July) was to assess just how far Copland was from any sort of completion. "Copland was clearly not going to happen," Hancock told me, "so we needed something that would provide us with a modern OS." This set in motion an Apple OS evaluation team, chaired by Hancock, whose job it was to find the basis for that new Mac OS. Hancock and her team looked at NeXT, Sun Microsystems' Sun OS and Solaris, IBM's AIX, and Be Inc. 's upstart Be OS. "We picked Plan A instead of Plan B," Apple CEO Gil Amelio wisecracked in a reference to the Be OS, which was reportedly Apple's main OS alternative. "NeXT was superior technology by a significant amount," he said. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 3 Jan 1997 17:52:56 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5ajh1o$8k@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <5ahj2b$clq@news4.digex.net> <32CC9C9D.7298@afs.com> In-Reply-To: <32CC9C9D.7298@afs.com> On 01/03/97, "Gregory H. Anderson" wrote: > Now here's the key point. I have two pretty good, mid-line DTP and WP > applications. I see a market which is larger by several orders of > magnitude. Darn right I'm gonna plunge right in and add all those new > features I've been itching to build. And you know what? I'm gonna get it > out the door at a pace that would make a grown man weep and children > raise their arms to the sky in wonderment. THAT'S where the NEXTSTEP > development advantage will pay off for me. > Here's something else Greg posted on the subject a while back (maybe it'll save him some typing soon? :-) Best wishes, mmalc. >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy >From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson)>Subject: Re: The REAL future operating systems >Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:04:28 GMT [..] The issue is not whether WriteUp is equivalent to MS-Word, and you know it. That's a straw man. WriteUp is a 1.0 product; Word is at version 6.0. The real issue is: If you set out to build the product described by WriteUp's design specification in OS/2, could you accomplish the job is anything approaching only 5 man-years of programming effort (documented in my earlier post)? Or to state the corollary: By the time WriteUp reaches a version that contains as many features as MS-Word, will as much time have been expended? I say no on both counts. I have developed sophisticated, real-time trading systems for some of the largest firms on Wall Street, on several platforms, for more than a decade, and on NEXTSTEP for the last 3. My NS implementation won a juried award from authorities no less distinguished than the OMG and ComputerWorld magazine at last year's ObjectWorld conference. We _published_ metrics and benchmarks describing the improvements my firm has experienced in software engineering process, time to market, maintenance requirements, and customer benefits with NEXTSTEP. In short, I know whereof I speak. And in my humble, _informed_ opinion, nothing currently available beats NEXTSTEP. AFS delivers trading software on more than NEXTSTEP, so you can't paint me with the ever-popular "NeXT fanatic" brush you drag out whenever you can't marshall a cogent counter-argument. My only criteria for picking a deployment OS is whether it meets minimum internally-established standards for the quality of its development tools. If you have really been reading this group for two years, you know I have been among the first to complain when NeXT acts boneheaded, and I have spoken up for the rights of all, including virulent critics, to be heard here. In fact, in a famous post that no one at NeXT will ever let me forget, I publicly predicted last March that NeXT would fail by the end of 1993 unless it found partners like HP and Sun. My credentials as a realist are sound. [..] --
From: gordonhk@speednet.net (Gordon Cheung) Newsgroups: comp.mail.list-admin.software,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.software.backoffice,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.software.compatibility,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.software.services,comp.publish.cdrom.software,comp.software-eng,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.software.international,comp.software.licensing,comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.sys.amiga.software.pirate,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need Fashion design software Date: Thu, 02 Jan 97 13:16:41 GMT Organization: Home Message-ID: <5agc37$htn@sn2.speednet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Thanks for reading. I looking for some Fashion design software. Please kindly reply by my e-mail. Thanks again. Best regards, Gordon HK My E-mail is: gordonhk@speednet.net
From: ici@giocoso.osk.threewebnet.or.jp (Toshinao Ishii) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXFax which modems? Date: 03 Jan 1997 14:50:20 GMT Organization: 3Web internet service Message-ID: <ICI.97Jan3235020@giocoso.osk.threewebnet.or.jp> References: <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> In-reply-to: dchan@dchan.earthlink.net's message of 28 Dec 1996 21:32:25 GMT In article <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> dchan@dchan.earthlink.net (Derek Chan) writes: > I'm in need for some suggestions for a good 28.8/33.4 modem. The modem has > to work with NXFax. I've been thinking of getting the US Robotics > V.Everything but, have heard that US Robitics modems don't work with NXFax (I > couldn't get a 28.8 USR Sportster to work but, maybe the V.Everything will > work). Can anyone recommend anything? Don't forget to use the latest serial driver with NXFax. In my case with Microcom V.34ESII, the old (came with CDROM) makes the system hang. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* $B@P0f=SD>(B Toshinao Ishii email: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp (NeXTMail/MIME Welcome)
From: mike@raroc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Translating WP for Next to MS Word Date: 3 Jan 1997 19:48:20 GMT Organization: A Corporation who shall Remain Nameless Distribution: World Message-ID: <5ajnq4$bhp@cgs1.bankamerica.com> References: <5ab7ec$rl1@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> In article <5ab7ec$rl1@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> marron@tornado.shands.ufl.edu (John Marron) writes: > I don't know if this is an appropriate group for this question, > but if not I appologize in advance. > Myt office has just switched from using NeXT workstations to > using PCs running windows 95. MS word and Windows seem to be unable > to open any of our old Woerd Perfect for Next files, and I was wondering > if anyone had any suggestions as to how we can access our old files? > Windows won't even open the files using Note/Wordpad, and it seems that > we can't even convert the files to plain text. > Any adivce would be greatly appreciated. > Try saving to RTF, ASCII or Generic format. You'll lose a lot of the formatting and images but the text should be preserved.
From: mike@raroc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Translating WP for Next to MS Word Date: 3 Jan 1997 19:46:11 GMT Organization: A Corporation who shall Remain Nameless Distribution: World Message-ID: <5ajnm3$ap1@cgs1.bankamerica.com> References: <5ab7ec$rl1@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> In article <5ab7ec$rl1@no-names.nerdc.ufl.edu> marron@tornado.shands.ufl.edu (John Marron) writes: > I don't know if this is an appropriate group for this question, > but if not I appologize in advance. > Myt office has just switched from using NeXT workstations to > using PCs running windows 95. MS word and Windows seem to be unable > to open any of our old Woerd Perfect for Next files, and I was wondering > if anyone had any suggestions as to how we can access our old files? > Windows won't even open the files using Note/Wordpad, and it seems that > we can't even convert the files to plain text. > Any adivce would be greatly appreciated. > > John Marron > Dept of Pediatrics > University of Florida > marron@tornado.shands.ufl.edu
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5ajp8r$i8i@newsfep3.sprintmail.com> Date: 3 Jan 1997 21:09:34 GMT Control: cancel <5ajp8r$i8i@newsfep3.sprintmail.com> Message-ID: <cancel.5ajp8r$i8i@newsfep3.sprintmail.com> Sender: tccs@sprintmail.com Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: CDRMEDIA Original Subject: CD-R Media for Sale
From: Edison Chung <edison@ipoline.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: the process of making computer software Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 16:13:41 -0500 Organization: InterPacific Online Message-ID: <32CD7685.445D@ipoline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! All you computer experts ! Can anyone tell me or give me some information about the process of making a computer softwaer (games). For example, normally, things start with the concept design, then program design, graphic design, then there is the beta stage, alpha stage, then finally marketing. Any infromationn will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Edison C
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MacWorld 1997 conference Message-ID: <8CF636A.09B8000021.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 97 14:34:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 APPLE AT MACWORLD '97 IN SAN FRANCISCO When: January 7-10, 1997 Where: Apple Main Booth #3322 (North Hall Booth) and Developer Central #3077 (North Hall Booth), Moscone Center. APPLE BOOTHS -- APPLE CLUB Apple Computer, Inc., will demonstrate the Apple Club, Apple's first web- based subscription service. Apple Club offers customers a full-service software station, which allows easy downloads of Apple's latest performance- enhancing software updates, utilities, patches, and extensions; and exclusive discounts on products and services. The service marks Apples advent into the Internet commerce market. -- MAC OS 7.6 Apple Computer, Inc., will demonstrate the Mac OS 7.6, the first step in a strategy designed to deliver state-of-the art operating system functionality to customers on a regular, semiannual basis. The new operating system incorporates all the stability improvements instituted in System 7.5.5 Update and is simpler to load due to a new Installer. A new Extension Manager makes it easy to share extension information or turn off extensions. -- MAC OS RUNTIME FOR JAVA 1.0 Apple Computer, Inc., will announce the availability of of Mac OS Runtime for Java 1.0, an implementation of Sun Microsystems' Java virtual machine (VM) and run-time environment for Macintosh and Mac OS-compatible systems. Mac OS Runtime for Java, which includes a player that allows users to view Java applets and applications, in addition to a developer API's, highlights Apple's commitment to making the Mac OS a best-of-breed platform for developing and running Java software. -- KEYNOTE -- DR. GIL AMELIO, APPLE CHAIRMAN & CEO Dr. Amelio will discuss the most recent advances on the Mac platform, and offer a glimpse of the innovations and exciting new developments in the world of Macintosh. Apple's OS Strategy will be formally unveiled. Date: Tuesday, January 7, 1997 Time: 12:00 NOON - 1:15 p.m. Location: Yerba Buena Ballroom, Marriott Hotel -- KEYNOTE -- GUY KAWASAKI, APPLE FELLOW Join Apple Fellow Guy Kawasaki and a hand-picked panel of companies whose products have impressed him as the hottest, coolest, baddest new applications for the Mac. San Francisco Marriott Hotel, Yerba Buena Ballroom. Date: Tuesday, January 7, 1997 Time: 1:30 p.m. - 3:00 p.m. Location: Yerba Buena Ballroom, Marriott Hotel -- APPLE PRESS/ANALYST LUNCHEON & PRESS CONFERENCE A presentation by Ellen Hancock, Chief Technology Officer of Apple Computer, Inc. and Avie Tevanian, formally Vice President of Engineering at NeXT, Inc., at a press luncheon and Q&A session. Ellen Hancock will present Apple's operating system strategy including demonstrations of new products and services. Date: Tuesday, January 7, 1997 Time: 1:30 p.m. - 3:00 p.m. Location: SF Marriott Hotel -- APPLESHARE IP 5.0 Apple Computer will demonstrate the next version of AppleShare. This system will support Internet Protocol (IP) standards-based server software product that combines the best of traditional networking services with the hottest emerging Internet/intranet capabilities in one integrated package. AppleShare IP 5.0 combines traditional file and print with web, mail and File Transfer Protocol (FTP) services, giving users a one-stop solution to share information and resources. It is designed for small businesses or corporate users at the departmental and workgroup level. The utilization Of Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)--the industry standard for open networking--allows an AppleShare IP 5.0 server to be seamlessly integrated into an IP-based corporate intranet. CONFERENCE PARTICIPATION The official MacWorld Expo San Francisco 1997 webcast will be produced by Apple, January 7-10. This interactive showcase is available at http//live. apple.com and will feature live conference sessions, online chat forums with both Apple and industry leaders, hot new product releases, calendar of events, SpyCams, QuickTime clips, virtual reality and current news from the show floor. The kick-off of the webcast will have Apple CEO and chairman Dr. Gil Amelio's keynote address which will take place on Tuesday, January 7 at 12:00 pm. Necesarry tools, plug-ins and a schedule of events are currently available at the web site. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: bmunn@lighthouse.com (Beth Munn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: JOB: Lighthouse Design/Sun Microsystems Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:01:50 GMT Organization: Lighthouse Design, a Sun Microsystems business Message-ID: <5ajvke$d0c@nntp1.best.com> Lighthouse Design (a Sun Microsystems business) 2929 Campus Drive San Mateo, Ca. 94403 415.570.7736 http://www.lighthouse.com Founded in 1989, and acquired by Sun Microsystems in July of 1996, Lighthouse Design is one of the industry's most experienced developers of applications for purely object-oriented environments. Lighthouse offers the exciting and fast paced environment of a small company, while being able to provide "big company" benefits. JavaPlan, the newest product from Lighthouse Design is the industry's first enterprise devlopment platform for the analysis, design, and generation of sophisticated Java applications. Lighthouse is also the premiere provider of productivity applications for the OpenStep and Solaris environments. We are looking for individuals who can demonstrate excellence in Object-OrientedTechnology, GUI Design, Software Engineering Management, and Application Development. Your skills should include: Java, Objective-C, Smalltalk, C++, OpenStep, Solaris, Windows NT, RDBMS, OODBMS, and OO A/D, "off the shelf" application development, The following positions are currently open: JAVA DEVELOPMENT MANAGER APPLICATIONS ENGINEERS JAVAPLAN ENGINEERS SALES ENGINEERS TRAINERS/CURRICULUM DEVELOPERS OPERATIONS MANAGER .....and others!! Lighthouse is a leader in the Object-Oriented software industry, come and work with some of the best people in the business. For more informaiton please contact or send your resume to: Beth Munn 415-570-7736 bmunn@lighthouse.com For other opportunities, please see our web site at: www.lighthouse.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hhoff@schwaben.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Subject: Re: Why is NeXT shipping quad-fat Openstep CD's? Message-ID: <E3GA0K.3L0@flop.schwaben.de> Sender: news@flop.schwaben.de Organization: NeXT Ghetto People feat. St.Eve References: <5aj3co$t81@leonie.object-factory.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:53:08 GMT Erik Doernenburg wrote: > > Okay, we all know that HP-PA support was dropped with the introduction of > OPENSTEP. How do we know? NeXT told us, the boxes and CDs say so, Installer > says so etc. Given all this, could somebody explain to my why the latest > Developer CD (OPENSTEP Developer 4.1 for Mach) is completely quad-fat? I > mean, not only the applications (if that were not enough!) but also all the > libraries and frameworks! Is this the last act of NeXT's marketing to tease > (torture?) HP owners? Hi Erik, It gets even better: check out the Ping O' Death page at http://www.sophist.demon.co.uk/ping/ and go to the NEXTSTEP entry. It clearly says something about HP/4.0 - and the entry has Dan Grillo's name under it. I bet that NeXT secretly did The Right Thing and continued development of 4.x on HP-PA, despite HP's brain-damaged attempts to stop it. Maybe some big customers were pissed off enough to pay for continued development in order to ease the 'transition' to NT. Now all they need to do is sell the thing.. Btw, happy new year to you and the people at Object Factory! :) Holger -- Object web weaver | @work: hhoff@media-group.de Media group | @home: hhoff@schwaben.de (NeXTmail & PGP ok) Stuttgart, Germany | OPENSTEP? Yes, It Will.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701031407.GAA11915@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: da74b9ba5cd6e94facd716c279d34bb9 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 97 09:07:10 -0500 Subject: Re: ReInstalling NeXTStep 3.2 from scratch Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: da74b9ba5cd6e94facd716c279d34bb9 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> Original Date: 02 Jan 1997 08:14:22 -0800 > Well, after screwing around for awhile, I thought I would ask what > the reccomended procedure is for completely wiping a disk, and > reinstalling NeXTStep 3.2 from scratch. Just boot the cdrom and go > ? Sure, that should work. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
From: jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <5ahmgp$73c@news3.texas.net> Control: cancel <5ahmgp$73c@news3.texas.net> Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:29:28 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <5ak188$555@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> This article canceled.
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: access to extended DOS partitions in NS/Intel Date: 3 Jan 1997 23:12:39 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ak3p7$8dn@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I have 3 partitions on the HD of my NS/Intel machine: DOS/Win95, NS, and a 3rd partition what was previous Linux, but I just reformetted to be an extended DOS partition. How do I get the new extended DOS drive to be accessible in NS (e.g., Workspace, unix command line, ...) ? Or is this not possible even though NS is capable of reading the file system? That would seem silly since NS's fdisk understands that the partition is there. -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: hablivilah@aol.com (Hablivilah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Who will port their Mac products to NextStep? Date: 4 Jan 1997 00:13:31 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970104001100.TAA00256@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <59hapn$frn@xmission.xmission.com> I have a next station that is 5 years old and the software is getting old, however it has mucho software that is very useful. Microsoft? NeXT has Mach based Unix OS NeXT has Objective C version of gcc NeXT has AppBuilder Adobe? NeXT has Display Post script and support external Post script printers or Dumb printer in which the central processor does the rasterization. WordPerfect? NeXT has it! Auto Desk. Should be a snap to port! Spread Sheets NeXT has Improv.
From: buckley4@mail.idt.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: From manipulation by Mail.app v118.2 (e2.0b5)? Date: 4 Jan 1997 01:48:38 GMT Organization: IDT Message-ID: <5akctm$cqk@nnrp2.farm.idt.net> I've recently switched ISP and reconfigured sendmail (8.8.4) with minimal perturbation but when someone quoted a message I had sent it read (generically) First.Last@Domain wrote... And the From: header read the same. Trouble is, this address is no good. My really address is username@mail.idt.net or username@Domain Domain in this case is ios.net and the preferred version is @mail.idt.net, althought the both work (as does username@idt.net). Mail.app did not do this before to my knowledge,and the problem may not lie in Mail.app, but when I send mail from the command line or with MailEnclosure.app, the correct From: line is given (and hopefully the correct authorship given in quotations scripts). In the Mail.app Expert preferences I specify "From: Paul Buckley" without an email address and leave that to "Reply-To:". Does anyone know where the username might be getting changed to First.Last? -- _________________________________________ Paul Buckley 515 W 59th St., Apt. 22K New York, NY 10019 E-mail: buckley4@mail.idt.net Tel/Fax: 212-333-3382 _________________________________________ I remember something about Bill Gates talking about "putting pins in his eyes" before he'd develop for NeXTSTEP. -somewhere on the Net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hhoff@schwaben.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Subject: Showstopper bug in Quantrix? Sender: news@flop.schwaben.de Organization: NeXT Ghetto People feat. St.Eve Message-ID: <E3GJyH.216@flop.schwaben.de> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:27:53 GMT I just noticed something that could be a serious bug in Quantrix 2.3, the latest version I'm aware of. If you: - start Quantrix - open a new model - press the little chart button left to the add/rename and Inspector buttons ..Quantrix will silently die. In fact, the program crashes *every* time you press this button! Further investigation yields: (gdb) r Starting program: /LocalApps/Office/Quantrix.app/Quantrix objc: PTemplateLeaf: does not recognize selector -_addChild:at: Program received signal 6, IOT trap 0x5006ec0 in kill () (gdb) bt #0 0x5006ec0 in kill () #1 0x5059aa2 in raise () #2 0x505a6b1 in abort () #3 0x503cd9c in _objc_error () #4 0x503a3d9 in -[Object error:] () #5 0x503a3b6 in -[Object doesNotRecognize:] () #6 0x503a427 in -[Object forward::] () #7 0x5006195 in _objc_msgForward () #8 0xeb72 in writeIndent () #9 0x343ef in Phighlight_rects () #10 0xb422 in QVL_firstValue () #11 0x523d7 in seriesParameterIsStacked () #12 0x26663 in polarOffset () #13 0x99a7d in NVGF_PSWInit () #14 0x99b41 in NVGF_PSWInit () #15 0x95739 in QVL_removeFirstValues () #16 0xa33c1 in _ppLoadFunctions () #17 0x49b30 in PLimitToRange () #18 0x1bcb6 in PMoveRangeOriginBy () #19 0xf74f3 in grabSubstring () #20 0x5032fcf in -[Object perform:with:] () #21 0x91625 in QVL_removeFirstValues () #22 0x15b4f5 in TTEditorFilter () #23 0x5032fcf in -[Object perform:with:] () #24 0x6062691 in -[Application tryToPerform:with:] () #25 0x60626fe in -[Responder tryToPerform:with:] () #26 0x60626fe in -[Responder tryToPerform:with:] () #27 0x60626fe in -[Responder tryToPerform:with:] () #28 0x60626fe in -[Responder tryToPerform:with:] () #29 0x6071888 in -[Window tryToPerform:with:] () #30 0x60626fe in -[Responder tryToPerform:with:] () #31 0x60626fe in -[Responder tryToPerform:with:] () #32 0x60626fe in -[Responder tryToPerform:with:] () #33 0x60626fe in -[Responder tryToPerform:with:] () #34 0x60626fe in -[Responder tryToPerform:with:] () #35 0x60626fe in -[Responder tryToPerform:with:] () #36 0x60626fe in -[Responder tryToPerform:with:] () #37 0x6062485 in tryToPerform () #38 0x606240c in -[Application sendAction:to:from:] () #39 0x6066950 in -[Control sendAction:to:] () #40 0x606e814 in -[Cell _sendActionFrom:] () #41 0x606994f in -[Cell trackMouse:inRect:ofView:] () #42 0x606ff1c in -[ButtonCell trackMouse:inRect:ofView:] () #43 0x606bf75 in -[Control mouseDown:] () #44 0x60636d5 in -[Window sendEvent:] () #45 0x6029ea1 in -[Application sendEvent:] () #46 0xf003e52 in -[EOApplication sendEvent:] () #47 0x603088f in -[Application run] () #48 0xa76f0 in main () #49 0xaf27f in start () I don't think my executable (x86) is wedged because I also installed a clean version which exhibits the same behaviour. Also, deleting all defaults and files from .AppInfo didn't make things better. Does anybody else get the above error? If so, is there a fix? Holger -- Object web weaver | @work: hhoff@media-group.de Media group | @home: hhoff@schwaben.de (NeXTmail & PGP ok) Stuttgart, Germany | OPENSTEP? Yes, It Will.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701031419.GAA12524@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 00ed138cf07cd0feb5a55659dfc7dcb4 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 97 09:19:39 -0500 Subject: Re: system deteriorate Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 00ed138cf07cd0feb5a55659dfc7dcb4 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: edward_xu@vos.stratus.com (Edward Xu) Original Date: 3 Jan 1997 08:37:09 GMT > I don't like this, because I have to reboot my PC to clean up the > swapfile. Anyone can tell me is there any way to retrieve my disk > space without reboot the system. Maybe this is the attribute of > NeXT? Unfortunately there is no way to reclaim that swapsace. You can logout and login as 'exit' to restart the windowserver, but results will vary. The only assured way is to reboot. If you're interested, checkout the swapfile FAQ on my NeXT page TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701031953.LAA25298@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <9701031716.AA05276@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 97 14:53:16 -0500 Subject: Re: ZSH 3.0.2 now works GREAT on NeXTSTEP!!!! Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: <9701031716.AA05276@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Uli Zappe <uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Original Date: Fri, 3 Jan 97 18:16:48 +0100 Message-ID: <9701031716.AA05276@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> > Is there any significant advantage of this version compred to the > one that comes with NEXTSTEP? > > If so, a QuadFat distribution sure would be a nice thing. Yes, several changes have been made which make it nicer, especially if you do 'for' loops and whatnot from the commandline. The announcement is on its way, but I have put together a QuadFat tar.gz package. I've only tested it on m68k, but I've no reason to think it wouldn't work on other archs. URL: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/unix/loginshells/zsh.3.0.2.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/unix/loginshells/zsh.3.0.2.README also linked to ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/zsh.3.0.2.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/zsh.3.0.2.README For those who care, the md5 for the tar.gz: 840f28eb1b2c9820d11d0c3d058703e2 zsh.3.0.2.NIHS.bs.tar.gz -rw-rw-r-- 1 15748 staff 1381656 Jan 3 08:14 zsh.3.0.2.NIHS.bs.tar.gz Hope you like it. If you use it on non-m68k hardware, please let me know if it works OK (or if it doesn't!) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Showstopper bug in Quantrix? Date: 4 Jan 1997 05:21:56 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <5akpdk$2r4@news.istar.ca> References: <E3GJyH.216@flop.schwaben.de> In-Reply-To: <E3GJyH.216@flop.schwaben.de> On 01/03/97, Holger Hoffstaette wrote: >Does anybody else get the above error? If so, is there >a fix? Yup, I have Quantrix for NeXT hardware and pressing the charting button always crashes the application. I don't know if there is a fix. It is a very obvious bug and it baffles me that the error exists. There seem to be crippling bugs in many of Lighthouse's products. Recently there have been numerous complaints concerning OpenWrite deleting the contents of user's home directories. I also have troubles with Concurrence saving corrupt files. -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -=- jsamson@istar.ca -=- NeXTmail & MIME welcome -============- http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul/ -=============- -===================================================================-
From: wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de (Wolfgang Keller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unnoficial Apple/Next FAQ 1.1 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:43:28 +0100 Organization: Customer of EUnet Germany; Info: info@Germany.EU.net Distribution: inet Message-ID: <1997010406432848192@peu1-29.m.eunet.de> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <carol1-2212961927330001@macip-ara-153.apple.com> <32be96c1.37286449@news.sover.net> <32BE991D.7AB7@sfbayrun.com> <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de> <5ahlbt$m93@rainbow.rmii.com> X-no-archive: yes John Stevens <josteven@rmi.net> wrote: > In article <1996123005394034493@peu1-41.m.eunet.de>, > Wolfgang Keller <wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de> wrote: > >P.S.: Real time capability is imho only relevant for OSes that are used > >in embedded controllers and other systems where security is relevant, > >but I don't think it is a major issue for any desktop (or server) OS for > >'standard' applications. > > Well, it is really nice, almost a requirement, for real-time gaming. Imho a computer basically should be an efficient tool for doing my work, but _surely not_ a toy. After all, that's why I'm using a Mac for almost everything, that is for all tasks that can be done by using Mac software. > Of course, I agree with your assesment of X, but would respectfully > point out that X isn't a Unix-dependent service. Right, but as _all_ Unix GUIs are implemented on the basis of X, _all_ Unix GUI applications are _by default_ X clients. There is afaik currently no other (mainstream) OS with similar capabilities. > > I've run X servers on Macs, and if someone were willing to port the > libraries to something like WinNT, you could conceivably run an X > application on an NT box and run the server on a Mac/Win95/WinNT/Unix > box. . . Yes you _could_, if NT (replace by any other OS if you want) applications _were_ X clients, but they _aren't_ (at least not by default). -- Wolfgang Keller An Apple (tm) a day wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de keeps the trouble away
From: kris@satcom.planetary.net (Kristopher Jon Magnusson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pretty icons? Date: 4 Jan 1997 06:29:08 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5aktbk$9gd@news.xmission.com> Hi, all. I'm getting tired of my old NS icons and want to find some new ones. I've cruised all the archive sites, but have found only boring two-bit grayscale icons. GUN has (or used to have) a mailing list for icons that people created, and I thought they maintain (or used to maintain) an archive site for their icons. Can anyone turn me onto a location for pretty icons? Internally grateful, ...................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@planetary.net http://www.planetary.net (NeXTmail and MIME OK) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
From: ngervae@sirius.com (Nik Gervae) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Adobe Frame5 and Illustrator/Intel? Date: 4 Jan 1997 08:16:10 GMT Organization: Sirius Connections Message-ID: <5al3ka$4mq@sun.sirius.com> So, with the big news, can anybody who knows anybody at Adobe or Omni tell us if there will be an OpenStep update to FrameMaker, and if they'll at least *recompile* Illustrator 3 on NextStep 3.3 so we can run it on our Intel boxes...? ---- ---- Nik Gervae <ngervae@sirius.com> Technical Writer San Francisco
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Showstopper bug in Quantrix? Date: 4 Jan 1997 10:09:19 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5ala8f$fke@news3.digex.net> References: <E3GJyH.216@flop.schwaben.de> <5akpdk$2r4@news.istar.ca> jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) wrote: > On 01/03/97, Holger Hoffstaette wrote: > >Does anybody else get the above error? If so, is there a fix? > Yup, I have Quantrix for NeXT hardware and pressing the charting > button always crashes the application. I don't know if there is > a fix. It is a very obvious bug and it baffles me that the error > exists. There seem to be crippling bugs in many of Lighthouse's > products. Recently there have been numerous complaints concerning > OpenWrite deleting the contents of user's home directories. I > also have troubles with Concurrence saving corrupt files. There is a fix for it on the FAQ in their web site. You have to just delete some file in the wrapper, but I forget which off hand... Their site has the answer though... -- Thanks, later, John Kheit monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NEXTmail OK NEXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Opinions expressed represent me only
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null Date: 4 Jan 1997 14:09:18 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> I was wondering if anyone has written a Mail.app filtering system to auto send mail from certain sites to /dev/null ? A UNIX tool would also be fine. I just recieved a SPAM mail with the footer below which was the last straw. Some idiot named joe@joes.com wrote: >p.s.--Discretion is requested and assured. >If you wish to be removed from my email list, Sorry, >no can do. The net is a free for all and if you don't >like this email, simply delete it from your inbox. Is this guy rude or what? -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hhoff@schwaben.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Subject: Re: Showstopper bug in Quantrix? Sender: news@flop.schwaben.de Organization: NeXT Ghetto People feat. St.Eve Message-ID: <E3HsJw.17q@flop.schwaben.de> References: <E3GJyH.216@flop.schwaben.de> <5akpdk$2r4@news.istar.ca> <5ala8f$fke@news3.digex.net> Cc: Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE, jsamson@istar.ca Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:31:08 GMT John Kheit wrote: > jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) wrote: > > On 01/03/97, Holger Hoffstaette wrote: > > >Does anybody else get the above error? If so, is there a fix? > There is a fix for it on the FAQ in their web site. You have to > just delete some file in the wrapper, but I forget which off hand... Here's the FAQ entry: --snip-- Q: When I click the Chart button on a spreadsheet window or choose Chart Templates from the View menu will cause Quantrix 2.3 to crash. This affects ONLY version 2.3 of Quantrix. A: 1. Log in as root 2. Locate and select Quantrix.app, in the File Viewer 3. Choose Open as Folder from the File menu. 4. Locate the Quantrix.app/English.lproj/Charts/3D folder. 5. Remove the 3D folder. The application will now run without incident. Valid for 2.3 ONLY --snip-- I've tested it, and it works. Of course, now you can't select any 3D chart templates anymore. I'm not sure if this is a solution. Sort of like cutting off your foot because it itches. Holger -- Object web weaver | @work: hhoff@media-group.de Media group | @home: hhoff@schwaben.de (NeXTmail & PGP ok) Stuttgart, Germany | OPENSTEP? Yes, It Will.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Chinese system. Message-ID: <E3H8qv.CHF@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5ai02n$l9i@transfer.stratus.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 09:23:18 GMT In article <5ai02n$l9i@transfer.stratus.com> edward_xu@vos.stratus.com (Edward Xu) writes: > Hi! > > I want to access Chinese web page. Does anyone know where to get Chinese > system on NeXT. Do we have Chinese system on NeXT? Any information. > Thanks. > As a starter you could get the KaiSu PostScript-font and the PinYin.app text editor. Try Peak or Peanuts. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: No PowerPC NT; PPCP Gone? Message-ID: <8CF721A.09B8000025.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 97 08:58:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 PowerPCs Will Not Run NT -- IBM, Motorola Executives Point To Lack Of Sales Although Windows NT 4.0 was supposed to allow so-called alternative processor architectures to run Microsoft Corp.'s server operating system, decisions by PC manufacturers last week leave the issue in doubt. When the PC divisions of Groupe Bull, IBM Corp., and Motorola Inc. disclosed to consultants that they would not run Windows NT on their PowerPC- based servers, it left Apple Computer Inc. chief executive Gilbert Amelio with yet another question to answer this week at his keynote address at the MacWorld Expo in San Francisco. Apple is by far the largest customer for PowerPC chips produced by the semiconductor divisions of both IBM and Motorola. The Cupertino, Calif.-based company also stole the holiday spotlight by announcing the acquisition of NeXT Inc., Redwood City, Calif., whose NeXT-Step software is expected to become Apple's next-generation operating system. Apple's servers currently use the company's own operating system. "I don't think even Apple really knows what its server strategy is," said Linley Gwennap, director of product development at MicroDesign Resources Inc., Sebastopol, Calif. "At least with NeXT it has one unknown direction, rather than four or five." IBM and Motorola executives said lack of sales was the reason for excluding the PowerPC from future generations of Windows NT-based servers. The same reason was cited last year when Microsoft cut NT support for the Mips processor. But analysts still expect that both the PowerPC and Alpha will be supported by Microsoft. Microsoft executives could not be reached for comment. But analysts said the PC makers' decision on NT was a pre-emptive strike to abandon Microsoft before it abandoned them. "IBM PC Corp. hasn't shown a whole lot of loyalty, but why should they?" Gwennap said. "When Microsoft pulled support for Mips, it showed that there wasn't much chance that [IBM and Motorola] would have much long-term support. " IBM's and Motorola's semiconductor divisions disagreed. "As far as the PowerPC is concerned, this decision was made by the PC companies, so obviously we have no control," said a spokesman for Motorola's RISC microprocessor division, Austin, Texas. "We haven't changed direction. I can't say whether or not this is going to hurt sales, as the market's just taking off." IBM's use of the PowerPC was primarily restricted to its RS/6000 AIX server line, designed first as a Unix-based platform. Both companies' semiconductor divisions said they still are targeting the PowerPC as an embedded and desktop processor. But analysts raised doubts concerning the future of the Apple/Motorola/IBM PowerPC Platform, an alliance formerly dubbed the Common Hardware Reference Platform. "This pretty much makes the whole point pretty redundant," Gwennap said. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null Date: 4 Jan 1997 17:54:41 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5am5h1$a7r@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> References: <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone has written a Mail.app filtering system > to auto send mail from certain sites to /dev/null ? A UNIX tool > would also be fine. > > I just recieved a SPAM mail with the footer below which was the > last straw. > > Some idiot named joe@joes.com wrote: > >p.s.--Discretion is requested and assured. > > >If you wish to be removed from my email list, Sorry, > >no can do. The net is a free for all and if you don't > >like this email, simply delete it from your inbox. > > Is this guy rude or what? I, too, received this rude mailing. Is there anything we can do with this info to prevent future mailings? Joe's CyberPost (JOES-DOM) 19145 Brookview Drive Saratoga, CA 95070 Domain Name: JOES.COM Administrative Contact: Doll, Joe (JD724) joe@JOES.COM (415)691-0270 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Leber, Mike (ML158) mleber@HE.NET 510 651 4164 Record last updated on 11-Oct-95. Record created on 17-Jul-95. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.HE.NET 207.33.1.2 NS2.HE.NET 207.33.1.3 AMDAHL.COM 129.212.11.3 -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple's Dual-OS Strategy Message-ID: <8CF721A.09B8000024.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 97 08:58:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple Plots Dual OS Strategy -- Promises support for Mac apps in migration to Next 01/06/97 InformationWeek Apple Computer this week will divulge a dual operating system strategy that includes support of existing Macintosh applications "well into the 21st century," says a company source. The announcement will address users' concerns about Apple's plans to incorporate technology from Next Computer Inc. , which Apple has said it will acquire. Apple sources say chairman and CEO Gilbert Amelio will promise to support the MacOS, in addition to delivering a new operating system using Next technology, until Apple can ensure that most existing Macintosh applications will run on the new operating system. The announcement will come during his keynote address at the MacWorld Expo in San Francisco on Jan. 7. The new system will be delivered within 12 months, say sources. Apple senior VP Ellen Hancock acknowledged on Dec. 23 that existing Mac applications probably won't be compatible with the new operating system, raising concern among some corporate users. "Software that's been available since 1984 will still run on current Macintosh systems, so to suggest the new OS wouldn't run old software would be a travesty," says an executive with Bose Corp., an audio systems manufacturer in Framingham, Mass. Apple's plan for supporting existing applications rests on an emulation approach. Sources say the company is considering porting the Macintosh Application Environment to the Next platform in order to support Mac applications. Company officials acknowledge that porting the MAE could take more than a year. Also, emulation is sure to create performance drawbacks, says Jean Bozman, a research manager at International Data Corp. in Mountain View, Calif. Some users, such as the Carson Group, a New York financial consulting firm, plan to avoid the compatibility issue by writing applications in Java, says Carson Group partner John Papa. In the meantime, users hope that the migration will protect their existing platforms. Says Tom Duck, director of advanced technologies at Skyway Freight Systems Inc. in Watsonville, Calif.:"Next technology is wonderful, and it's great to develop in." -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
Message-ID: <32CE98B1.34AE@ebs.ac.com> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 11:51:45 -0600 From: Eric Ulmer <ulmerer@ebs.ac.com> Organization: ServiceNet, LLC. Andersen/BBN MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT related WWW site Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.isd.net/eulmer
From: robert@amo.mit.edu (Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null Date: 4 Jan 1997 18:32:11 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <5am7nb$14l@boursy.news.erols.com> References: <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> In article <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) writes: > > I just recieved a SPAM mail with the footer below which was the > last straw. > > Some idiot named joe@joes.com wrote: Just for the record, I received the same crap. I sent a note to postmaster@joes.com, but I imagine that joe is also alias postmaster. -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
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From: jmiller <jmiller@rogerswave.ca> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 23:46:49 -0400 Organization: Rogers Communications Ltd. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz?
From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Speech recognition/transcription Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 11:05:38 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Message-ID: <tgritton-ya023180000401971105380001@news.sprynet.com> References: <1997010314080110218@dialup-1.ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <1997010314080110218@dialup-1.ucl.ac.uk>, reba999@ucl.ac.uk (Michael Binks) wrote: >Is there any Speech recognition/transcription software available for >NEXTStep ? This was posted a few day ago. Not a complete answer to you needs but maybe some pointers. From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.software Subject: Re: AppleStep FAQs - dd 961230 Date: 30 Dec 1996 15:28:01 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK [snip,snip] In this area, though, NeXT has a pretty good history: the first speech ASR system to break the 1000-word barrier for the main DARPA evaluation task was developedon NEXTSTEP by Kai Fu Lee, who subsequently went to work for Apple (on the Caspar project -- wahtever became of that?), although his work lived on in the SpeechKit product from Visus (a spin-off company from CMU). This was basically a 1000-word recognition system which you could build into any of your applications, and for which you could configure your own vocabulary, grammar etc. Quite outstanding technology for its time. There was also SimonSays, which did a good job at putting a speech UI onto NEXTSTEP, however it still doesn't get round the fact that using it involves talking to your computer. -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null Date: 4 Jan 1997 20:24:23 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ame9n$skp@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <5am7nb$14l@boursy.news.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit robert@amo.mit.edu (Robert Lutwak) wrote: > In article <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe > A. Rodriguez) writes: > > > > I just recieved a SPAM mail with the footer below which was the > > last straw. > > > > Some idiot named joe@joes.com wrote: > > Just for the record, I received the same crap. > I sent a note to postmaster@joes.com, but I imagine > that joe is also alias postmaster. I sent email to he.net which services the joes.com email domain and received the following response. Note the good suggestion to contact our congresspeople about making SPAMing illegal. DO IT!! Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 11:19:22 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Leber <mleber@he.net> To: Art Isbell <aisbell@ix.netcom.com> Subject: MAIL ABUSE:Re: Take care of this problem, please In-Reply-To: <9701041808.AA00502@ix.netcom.com> We take mail abuse very seriously. This is a forgery that has been sent out by a spammer after we had joes.com take down his page. Note that the raw mail headers show this spam does not originate at he.net. Also, joes.com does not contain "hot" material. joes.com had the misfortune to rent space to a hit and run spam operator that is now taking revenge for his page being pulled. We will posting further details to news.admin.net-abuse.email later today. Please write your congressman to have the sending of mass unsolicited commercial email turned into a crime similar to unsolicited mass faxing. Mike. +------------------- H U R R I C A N E - E L E C T R I C -------------------+ | Mike Leber Direct Internet Connections Voice 408 282 1540 | | Hurricane Electric Web Hosting & Co-location Fax 408 971 3340 | | mleber@he.net „http://www.he.net | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: "Eren Kotan" <Eren_Kotan@next.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MacStep: Can I run Mac Apps on my Cube ? Date: 4 Jan 1997 20:56:02 GMT Organization: NeXT Software UK Limited Message-ID: <01bbfa83$34d27c50$102c1281@demoroom> References: <59rign$d3g@boursy.news.erols.com> > a) Will the new Mac OS run on my Cube? Sure, it will also run on the Commodore Amiga, the ZX Spectrum and the common kitchen kettle. ;-} Hey, if Microsoft can get away with it, why can't we? I am looking at the minimum hardware specs for NT 3.51: - 386SX CPU with 8MB RAM. Regards, Eren -- Eren Kotan - Eren_Kotan@next.com NeXT Software UK Limited ObjectLine Support - anything I say is exactly that
From: Brian Sutherland <rmaniac@onramp.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXFax which modems? Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 15:15:08 -0600 Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <32CEC85C.2B92@onramp.net> References: <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Derek Chan <dchan@dchan.earthlink.net> Derek Chan wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm in need for some suggestions for a good 28.8/33.4 modem. The modem has > to work with NXFax. I've been thinking of getting the US Robotics > V.Everything but, have heard that US Robitics modems don't work with NXFax (I > couldn't get a 28.8 USR Sportster to work but, maybe the V.Everything will > work). Can anyone recommend anything? > > Thanks. > > -- > dchan@earthlink.net | NeXTmail or MIMEmail welcome. I have a courier V.everything I will go home tonight and try it out. Look for my post in a day or two. Brian
From: "Eren Kotan" <Eren_Kotan@next.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Be vs NeXT Date: 4 Jan 1997 21:01:37 GMT Organization: NeXT Software UK Limited Message-ID: <01bbfa83$fc459920$102c1281@demoroom> References: <19961224193600.OAA14529@ladder01.news.aol.com> Yipadedoda <yipadedoda@aol.com> wrote in article <19961224193600.OAA14529@ladder01.news.aol.com>... > Will someone tell me the differences between BeOS and NeXT. From what I've > heard, NeXT takes 30 seconds to load while BeOS takes only 5 secs!! It > seems that BeOS is a fast, portable, Completely object oriented operating > system that can also do multiprocessing. I have no idea what NeXT can do. NEXTSTEP is a fast, portable, completely object oriented operating system that can also do multiprocessing; with one important difference: we already have a well-established base of real-world customers using it for solving real-world problems. ;-} NEXTSTEP is mature, BeOS is still under development. The time for an OS to load is not exactly a meaningful benchmark, is it? Regards, Eren -- Eren Kotan - Eren_Kotan@next.com NeXT Software UK Limited ObjectLine Support
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Virtuoso All The Way! Re: Adobe Frame5 and Illustrator/Intel? Date: 4 Jan 1997 21:37:08 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-d-53.usc.edu Message-ID: <5amii4$hhn@usc.edu> References: <5al3ka$4mq@sun.sirius.com> Cc: ngervae@sirius.com In <5al3ka$4mq@sun.sirius.com> Nik Gervae wrote: > So, with the big news, can anybody who knows anybody at Adobe or Omni > tell us if there will be an OpenStep update to FrameMaker, and if > they'll at least *recompile* Illustrator 3 on NextStep 3.3 so we can > run it on our Intel boxes...? Better Yet - Let's get Virtuoso back up on the developing board! I'll take it any day over Illustrator! -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
From: news@cmc.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.psion.misc,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix Subject: cmsg cancel <5am7kr$drl@tommy.chesapeake.net> Date: 4 Jan 1997 22:26:35 GMT Control: cancel <5am7kr$drl@tommy.chesapeake.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5am7kr$drl@tommy.chesapeake.net> Sender: chrisf@chesapeake.net (CF Publishing) Spam cancelled by news@cmc.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> Message-ID: <9701040959.AA00404@zaphod> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.0 v146.2) From: Christian Starkjohann <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 97 10:59:19 +0100 Subject: Re: access to extended DOS partitions in NS/Intel Cc: kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu In article <5ak3p7$8dn@nntp.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) writes: > I have 3 partitions on the HD of my NS/Intel machine: DOS/Win95, > NS, and a 3rd partition what was previous Linux, but I just > reformetted to be an extended DOS partition. How do I get the new > extended DOS drive to be accessible in NS (e.g., Workspace, unix > command line, ...) ? Or is this not possible even though NS is > capable of reading the file system? That would seem silly since > NS's fdisk understands that the partition is there. NS's fdisk does not see the logical partition, it just sees the extended one which may contain many logical ones. The man page of fdisk says: fdisk knows nothing about logical partitions, which are sub-partitions of an extended partition. Nor perhaps should it, as these are gross kludges from the Evil OS Company of the North. If you really need access to that partition you may try vmount: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/disk/vmount* or ftp://hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at/pub/NeXT/tools/vmount/ Bye, Christian. -- Christian Starkjohann <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> or <cs@ds1.kph.tuwien.ac.at>, finger for PGP Public Key. PGP fingerprint: DF FD 40 60 91 6A 14 1C CD 2C E9 07 38 AE CB 4E
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? (OmniWeb note) Date: 5 Jan 1997 00:00:51 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5amqvj$4kv@gaea.titan.org> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <5aigpk$mft@nntp1.best.com> cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) wrote: > On 01/01/97, John De Hoog wrote: > > >(5) Up-to-date Web browser support > > OmniWeb (www.omnigroup.com) is about the most up to date and supports HTML 3.2 > fairly completely but does not handle plug-ins or some of the more esoteric > Netscapisms. NetSurfer is the other major competitor. There have been > persistent rumors of an OpenStep NetScape port. Just to correct an incorrect impression someone could get from this, while neither OmniWeb nor NetSurfer support Netscape or IE plug-ins (or each others') - they do indeed support their own plug-ins. Since I work at Omni: OmniWeb has what we feel is a very powerful framework that allows a plug-in to do many things that plug-ins can't do in Netscape. (Our OmniWeb web pages give more info: http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/.) As for a Netscape port to NeXTstep, I've never before heard rumors of one, though I've certainly heard wishful requests. (We've even had people request that we team up with Netscape to get a NeXTstep port - beyond all other factors, I can't imagine what positive aspects such a deal would offer Omni.) I do of course expect there will be a Netscape port for whatever form the new OS takes. And as for the original article that started this thread, it seemed like an obvious troll to me - I'm not sure why anyone deigned to respond. -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok Want NeXTstep user environment info? Check out http://www.omnigroup.com/People/andrew/MacUsersGuideToNEXTSTEP/
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pages by Pages Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:51:03 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Message-ID: <E3FqH3.us@micmac.com> References: <32BED518.2A2170E6@screaming.org> <59ml1t$870@shelob.afs.com> <32C014BF.3426@dallas.net> <32C0CAC4.5176@afs.com> <5a91du$6sa@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <5a98q9$g8n@duke.squonk.net> <5a9f9d$qfe@news.bctel.net> <32C8475F.5504@afs.com> <5a9hso$e2m@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Cc: jdevlin@umich.edu In <5a9hso$e2m@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu wrote: > ... speaking of decent text engines .... Does anyone else remember the > Archetype Document Engine? I thought that was a terrific idea -- just add > it to the OS and call it Enterprise Document Frameworks ... > > Sure I do! But it was killed by MCCA... What happened then to this? -- mc ’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’ Michel Coste <mailto:mic@micmac.com> MiCMAC - Online Publishing < http://www.micmac.com> ’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: mattj@invisix.com Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Message-ID: <147cd$122425.32d@news.goldengate.net> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 00:36:37 GMT References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> jmiller <jmiller@rogerswave.ca> wrote: >If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: >They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) >They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? > You can overclock a Pentium CPU on certain motherboards for faster MHz speeds. -- MATT | mailto:mattj@invisix.com NeXTMail Ok jurcich | http://www.invisix.com Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 24MB, 250MB, NEC XP21, NEXTSTEP 3.2
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.psion.misc,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix Subject: Re: We Create Web Pages! Date: 4 Jan 1997 14:43:17 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <jcr.852417619@idiom.com> References: <5am7kr$drl@tommy.chesapeake.net> chrisf@chesapeake.net (CF Publishing) writes: [most of the spammer's ad deleted] >estimate you may have. If you are interested in any of our services, simple >email us at chrisf@chesapeake.net, or call us at (301) 855-9902. Guys, this is a rare chance to slam a spammer but good. I just tried the number above, and it's live. It appears to be his home number. Call him up, and tell him why it's wrong to spam usenet newsgroups!!! >Thank you for your interest in our services. Yeah, good luck getting a clue, dipshit. -jcr
From: elisha@dot.net.au (Luci Ellis) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 12:32:49 +1100 Organization: Elisha, Inc Distribution: inet Message-ID: <elisha-ya023180000501971232490001@news.dot.net.au> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <147cd$122425.32d@news.goldengate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <147cd$122425.32d@news.goldengate.net>, mattj@invisix.com wrote: > jmiller <jmiller@rogerswave.ca> wrote: > >If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: > >They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) > >They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? > > > > You can overclock a Pentium CPU on certain motherboards for faster MHz > speeds. > Ditto PowerPC. (Interesting that powerpc.advocacy isn't on the header??) ********************************************************************* Luci Ellis elisha@dot.net.au "Who needs horror movies when we have Microsoft"? -- Christine Comaford, PC Week, 27/9/95
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 02:10:09 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Message-ID: <E3IJCx.1MA@micmac.com> References: <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Cc: far@ix.netcom.com In <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Felipe A. Rodriguez wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone has written a Mail.app filtering system > to auto send mail from certain sites to /dev/null ? A UNIX tool > would also be fine. > Use procmail! It will do this and more... > I just recieved a SPAM mail with the footer below which was the > last straw. I received the same... > > Is this guy rude or what? Stupid for sure! > > > > -- mc ’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’ Michel Coste <mailto:mic@micmac.com> MiCMAC - Online Publishing < http://www.micmac.com> ’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’
From: mmunz@inconnect.com (Mark Munz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Be vs NeXT Date: 5 Jan 1997 01:35:34 GMT Organization: Puppy Dog Software Message-ID: <mmunz-0401971829120001@slc-dial-31.inconnect.com> References: <19961224193600.OAA14529@ladder01.news.aol.com> <01bbfa83$fc459920$102c1281@demoroom> In article <01bbfa83$fc459920$102c1281@demoroom>, "Eren Kotan" <Eren_Kotan@next.com> wrote: >Yipadedoda <yipadedoda@aol.com> wrote in article ><19961224193600.OAA14529@ladder01.news.aol.com>... >> Will someone tell me the differences between BeOS and NeXT. From what >I've >> heard, NeXT takes 30 seconds to load while BeOS takes only 5 secs!! It >> seems that BeOS is a fast, portable, Completely object oriented operating >> system that can also do multiprocessing. I have no idea what NeXT can do. > >NEXTSTEP is a fast, portable, completely object oriented operating system >that can also do multiprocessing; with one important difference: we already >have a well-established base of real-world customers using it for solving >real-world problems. ;-} > >NEXTSTEP is mature, BeOS is still under development. > >The time for an OS to load is not exactly a meaningful benchmark, is it? I agree with most of your statement, but the last bit is questionable. I think it is important to look at the load time of an OS. Load times for Macintosh seem to get longer with each new release - not a good trend. Now, it is possible that the differences are due to different services that are offered. If these are necessary services that Next offers that haven't made it to the BeOS, then that's OK - if however it is the same services, maybe there needs to be some work done to improve the performance. Mind you, the statement that BeOS only takes 5 seconds to boot is incorrect (at least, mine never has)... but some of the speed in BeOS may be due to the multi-processor and would therefore need to be compared to a Next running on multiple-PPC chips for a more accurate comparison. Just my two cents. Mark Munz
From: Pohl Longsine <pohl@screaming.org> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 20:25:26 -0600 Organization: mementech, inc. Message-ID: <32CF1116.231DE0C5@screaming.org> References: <01bbef77$50776810$15818bce@djowens> <851275965mnewsachaney@voicenet.com> <59k1ke$5sr@news.Hawaii.Edu> <32BD3D7E.422C@sfbayrun.com> <32BDB8B6.5741@flash.net> <carol1-2212961724430001@macip-ara-32.apple.com> <5a4re1$qfe@news.bctel.net> <01bbf6ea$87569840$5813acce@chu.ipoline.com> <01bbf85d$f43ce8a0$5d13acce@chu.ipoline.com> <pxpst2-0201971310460001@path01.pathology.pitt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the wrote: > you are an idiot that does not know JACK. You surely don't know > processors. The PowerPC chip is a generartion ahead of the pentium. Who gives a rat's ass? With platform-independent APIs, hardware becomes a bang-for-the-buck issue. -- pohl@screaming.org |"Reality is that which when you stop believing http://screaming.org/ | in it doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick ----------------------+---------------------------------------------- OpenStep Inferno Java | Making the world safe for platform diversity.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pretty icons? Date: 5 Jan 1997 02:42:19 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970105024000.VAA08188@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5aktbk$9gd@news.xmission.com> On the subject of icons... I upgraded my Cube on a new hard drive from 2.1 to 3.1, and was shocked to see a NeXTStation icon for the root directory. I put in Cube tiffs for .dir.tiff and .opendir.tiff, and they appear properly when I'm logged in as root, but not for the me account. I'd really like to have the system looking like its old self on this one thing at least. William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701041412.GAA12832@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: af2a7d41db3f2d182f8e81f251175faf - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 97 09:12:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Speech recognition/transcription Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: af2a7d41db3f2d182f8e81f251175faf - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: reba999@ucl.ac.uk (Michael Binks) Original Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:08:01 GMT > I badly need speech to text software and I am not concerned about > a requirement for discontinuous speech. Apple's offerings seem > rudimentary and I have not heard about significant forthcoming > developments. PowerSecretary for the Mac is reportedly reliable > and efficient, but grossly overpriced for the full (medical) > version. > > IBM's offerings in this area are impressive. Is my new PC going to > have to be Wintel / OS-2 ? Or is there some hope from the NEXT > arena ? The only app I've ever heard that could do that was "SimonSays" Send me an email message with no body and the SUBJECT search-peak simonsays and you'll get the URLs back for our FTP site. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.psion.misc,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix Subject: cmsg cancel <jcr.852417619@idiom.com> Control: cancel <jcr.852417619@idiom.com> Date: 5 Jan 1997 03:25:04 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <5an6ug$edt@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> This article canceled.
From: me@nortel.ca (Josie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,news.admin.net-abuse.misc Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null joes.com adgrafix.com Date: 5 Jan 1997 03:48:23 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research Distribution: world Message-ID: <5an8a7$6ao@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> References: <5ame9n$skp@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Keywords: spam Looking at the headers, it seems that it came through ibm.net - I sent a message to their postmaster and asked them to disconnect the spammers at joes.com. Replying to this message obviously bounces. However, the interesting part is that http://www.joes.com doesn't exist (anymore?) but www.adgrafix.com does exist and seem to be served by MCI. I also sent an email to postmaster@mci.net and abuse@mci.net to investigate. Daniel PS:Check the 'Fight Spam' (http://www.vix.com/spam/) page for more info on how to fight spam. Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA144374; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:15:14 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:15:14 GMT From: joe@joes.com Message-Id: <199701032315.XAA144374@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip129-37-233-146.mi.us.ibm.net(129.37.233.146) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smag6gpsR; Fri Jan 3 22:14:15 1997 /usr/sbin/traceroute adgrafix.com traceroute to adgrafix.com (208.140.168.254), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 hades (198.53.206.1) 2.093 ms 1.917 ms 1.828 ms 2 border1.Ottawa.istar.net (198.53.64.141) 5.687 ms 4.941 ms 4.851 ms 3 core1.Ottawa.iSTAR.net (198.53.250.10) 5.436 ms 5.829 ms 5.073 ms 4 core1.Montreal.iSTAR.net (198.53.254.57) 13.992 ms 7.538 ms 9.683 ms 5 core1.Toronto.iSTAR.net (198.53.254.61) 50.96 ms 195.051 ms 15.623 ms 6 border5-hssi1-0.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.69.5) 34.207 ms 42.161 ms 53.041 ms 7 core2-fddi-0.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.64.49) 36.382 ms 32.027 ms 33.563 ms 8 166.48.38.22 (166.48.38.22) 50.482 ms 51.328 ms 53.077 ms 9 166.48.38.22 (166.48.38.22) 49.905 ms 60.939 ms 51.072 ms 10 208.140.168.254 (208.140.168.254) 49.559 ms * 50.738 ms In article <5ame9n$skp@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: > robert@amo.mit.edu (Robert Lutwak) wrote: > > In article <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe > > A. Rodriguez) writes: > > > > > > I just recieved a SPAM mail with the footer below which was the > > > last straw. > > > > > > Some idiot named joe@joes.com wrote: > > > > Just for the record, I received the same crap. > > I sent a note to postmaster@joes.com, but I imagine > > that joe is also alias postmaster.
From: me@nortel.ca (Josie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,news.admin.net-abuse.misc Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null joes.com adgrafix.com Date: 5 Jan 1997 03:48:33 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research Distribution: world Message-ID: <5an8ah$6aq@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> References: <5ame9n$skp@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Keywords: spam Looking at the headers, it seems that it came through ibm.net - I sent a message to their postmaster and asked them to disconnect the spammers at joes.com. Replying to this message obviously bounces. However, the interesting part is that http://www.joes.com doesn't exist (anymore?) but www.adgrafix.com does exist and seem to be served by MCI. I also sent an email to postmaster@mci.net and abuse@mci.net to investigate. Daniel PS:Check the 'Fight Spam' (http://www.vix.com/spam/) page for more info on how to fight spam. Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA144374; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:15:14 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:15:14 GMT From: joe@joes.com Message-Id: <199701032315.XAA144374@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Received: from slip129-37-233-146.mi.us.ibm.net(129.37.233.146) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net via smap (V1.3mjr) id smag6gpsR; Fri Jan 3 22:14:15 1997 /usr/sbin/traceroute adgrafix.com traceroute to adgrafix.com (208.140.168.254), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 hades (198.53.206.1) 2.093 ms 1.917 ms 1.828 ms 2 border1.Ottawa.istar.net (198.53.64.141) 5.687 ms 4.941 ms 4.851 ms 3 core1.Ottawa.iSTAR.net (198.53.250.10) 5.436 ms 5.829 ms 5.073 ms 4 core1.Montreal.iSTAR.net (198.53.254.57) 13.992 ms 7.538 ms 9.683 ms 5 core1.Toronto.iSTAR.net (198.53.254.61) 50.96 ms 195.051 ms 15.623 ms 6 border5-hssi1-0.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.69.5) 34.207 ms 42.161 ms 53.041 ms 7 core2-fddi-0.WestOrange.mci.net (204.70.64.49) 36.382 ms 32.027 ms 33.563 ms 8 166.48.38.22 (166.48.38.22) 50.482 ms 51.328 ms 53.077 ms 9 166.48.38.22 (166.48.38.22) 49.905 ms 60.939 ms 51.072 ms 10 208.140.168.254 (208.140.168.254) 49.559 ms * 50.738 ms In article <5ame9n$skp@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: > robert@amo.mit.edu (Robert Lutwak) wrote: > > In article <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe > > A. Rodriguez) writes: > > > > > > I just recieved a SPAM mail with the footer below which was the > > > last straw. > > > > > > Some idiot named joe@joes.com wrote: > > > > Just for the record, I received the same crap. > > I sent a note to postmaster@joes.com, but I imagine > > that joe is also alias postmaster.
From: Robert Iacullo <eagle@serv.net> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 19:55:50 -0800 Organization: AMUSE Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jmiller wrote: > > If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: > They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) > They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. -- Robert S Iacullo President-Amiga Users Society Eastside eagle@serv.net http://www.serv.net/~eagle TeamAMIGA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung) Subject: What is the best Web Browser for 3.2 Black? Message-ID: <vfr750E3Ir0B.EHC@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 04:55:23 GMT Sender: vfr750@netcom12.netcom.com Subject says it all, just wondering what it might be, and where I could get it from . Thanx! -- Will Hartung - Rancho Santa Margarita. It's a dry heat. vfr750@netcom.com 1990 VFR750 - VFR=Very Red "Ho, HaHa, Dodge, Parry, Spin, HA! THRUST!" 1993 Explorer - Cage? Hell, it's a prison. -D. Duck
From: zapster@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 5 Jan 1997 07:24:20 GMT Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ankv4$16em$4@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <01bbef77$50776810$15818bce@djowens> <851275965mnewsachaney@voicenet.com> <59k1ke$5sr@news.Hawaii.Edu> <32BD3D7E.422C@sfbayrun.com> <32BDB8B6.5741@flash.net> <carol1-2212961724430001@macip-ara-32.apple.com> <5a4re1$qfe@news.bctel.net> <01bbf6ea$87569840$5813acce@chu.ipoline.com> <01bbf85d$f43ce8a0$5d13acce@chu.ipoline.com> In <01bbf85d$f43ce8a0$5d13acce@chu.ipoline.com>, "Frank Chu" <chu@ipoline.com> writes: >I have never seem a low chip such as PPC CPUS. I won't run a PMac since >it runs that shitty MacOS. IBM's PPC runs a version of NT with nearly >no applications available, and for the price of a System/6000(PPC CPU) >running AIX I can get a SUN Sparc running Solaris with 50% more performance >or even that newest O2 SGI. A SMP dual Pentium PRO200 with 512k cache >onboard running ULTRA FAST Unixs like Solaris, BSD, Linux or SCO costs only >half of those over priced shitty machines! PPC CPUs can really eat shit. Umm, I highly doubt sun makes anything that can beat an RS/6000 system running with 512 processors... The IBM PowerParallel system is one of the fastest, if not the fastest, generally available mainframe one can buy. Solaris is also an extremely slow OS, it blows. So lesse, I have my IBM RS/6000 PowerParalell with 512 processors and 16 gigs of ram. Lesse, you have a quad pentium pro system running what... say linux and just for kicks 1 gig of ram, and of course the unbelievably fast 33mhz PCI bus... Who is going to win here? Who can have the most concurrent users? Will it be the intel machine? Fuck no.
From: dehoog@bc.mbn.or.jp (John De Hoog) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 00:54:12 GMT Organization: TNI Message-ID: <32d2f893.921819456@snews.zippo.com> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <5aigpk$mft@nntp1.best.com> <5amqvj$4kv@gaea.titan.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: > >And as for the original article that started this thread, it seemed >like an obvious troll to me - I'm not sure why anyone deigned to >respond. I'm sorry you took it that way. I originated this thread in order to learn more about the practical aspects involved in adopting NeXTStep now or later, and to find out the current status of application support for a SOHO user. It was never meant as a troll. Many people emailed me privately with useful advice, as a result of which I now have a better understanding of the situation. One thing I learned is that most NeXTStep users today apparently do not use the Internet from standalone, dialup ISP accounts. For this reason, support for dial-on-demand Internet services is still inadequate. A second thing I learned is that someone in my situation, who must supply files to corporations that use mainly MS Office products, may have difficulty providing strictly Office-compliant formats from a NeXTStep platform. Other than that, there would seem to be many excellent applications available now, and the development environment should make it relatively easy to provide new or upgraded ones if the new OpenMac platform starts to become established. Again, I'm rather stung by the "troll" accusation. I think the questions I raised are just the kinds of practical considerations that must be made by anyone looking to switch platforms. I went through a similar process when I switched from the Mac to Windows NT a couple of years ago. At first, I was afraid I wouldn't be able to find equivalent applications for the PC. With a bit of searching, however, I found a wide range of utilities and other programs. Moreover, as the Internet has grown, Windows has generally been first to get the latest Internet-oriented applications. There is an advantage to having the latest tools available fast, and it's one I would be loathe to give up. ------ John De Hoog dehoog@super.zippo.com
From: Scott Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 5 Jan 1997 09:59:08 GMT Organization: BCOG Message-ID: <5anu1c$j78@news.bctel.net> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <5aigpk$mft@nntp1.best.com> <5amqvj$4kv@gaea.titan.org> <32d2f893.921819456@snews.zippo.com> dehoog@bc.mbn.or.jp (John De Hoog) wrote: >andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: >One thing I learned is that most NeXTStep users today apparently do >not use the Internet from standalone, dialup ISP accounts. For this >reason, support for dial-on-demand Internet services is still >inadequate. There is a shareware app called the Simple Internet Starter Kit that offers a GUI for configuring PPP on Nextstep. I used it before switching to a dedicated T3 Ethernet connection. Also, Openstep 4.0 is supposed to have better PPP support.
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Changing Object Icons in NeXTSTEP? Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 10:34:10 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Message-ID: <32CF83A2.4F3B@us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is the process for changing icons for apps, documents, folders, etc... Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: HELP: Anyone have compiled ps2pcl? Message-ID: <ukvg20gf46g.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:00:07 GMT Does anyone have a compiled version of ps2pcl for an 040 black slab, using serial port B, 38400 baud? The only binary version I can find is compiled for i386 *grr*. Thanks, Mark -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 12:19:31 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023580000501971219310001@news.tiac.net> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <5aigpk$mft@nntp1.best.com> <5amqvj$4kv@gaea.titan.org> <32d2f893.921819456@snews.zippo.com> <5anu1c$j78@news.bctel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5anu1c$j78@news.bctel.net>, Scott wrote: > dehoog@bc.mbn.or.jp (John De Hoog) wrote: snip > >One thing I learned is that ... support for dial-on-demand Internet > >services is still inadequate. > > There is a shareware app called the Simple Internet Starter Kit that offers a > GUI for configuring PPP on Nextstep. I used it before switching to a > dedicated T3 Ethernet connection. Also, Openstep 4.0 is supposed to have > better PPP support. I seem to recall that the posted comments on 4.X (which I haven't upgraded to) are to the effect that the PPP is the same as the freeware version, and does not include dial-on-demand. If so, John is correct. Perhaps someone using PPP in 4.X could comment? Barney
From: scottb@formats-unlimited.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Internet Search Engines Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 17:32:36 GMT Organization: LI Net (Long Island Network) Message-ID: <32cfe53e.4780304@newshost.li.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for any software that will allow you to setup company names on the general internet search engines. I know there are a number of companies that offer this service but where are they getting this software.
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 300-MHz Mac clone Message-ID: <8CF82A0.09B800002B.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 97 11:12:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 300-MHz Mac clone due in July 01/06/97 ComputerWorld Macintosh clone maker Power Computing Corp. is expected at this week's Macworld Expo to demonstrate a 300-MHz Macintosh-compatible system that will be delivered by July. Apple's fastest machine is the Power Macintosh 9500, a 200-MHz system that will soon have an optional upgrade to 250 MHz. The 9500 was released about two months ago; Apple hasn't announced plans for a 300-MHz model, according to Apple service representatives. Also at this week's trade show in San Francisco, Power Computing is set to announce two dual-PowerPC processor cards, attractive price cuts and new bundling deals. The two cards include a dual 225-MHz PowerPC card with 32M bytes of memory. It is expected to cost $4,995. The other card - a dual 250-MHz model - is, at least for now, just a technology demonstration, according to Bill Goins, Power Computing's marketing director. Power Computing is also offering some new bundling deals and show specials. The company plans to bundle Macromedia, Inc.'s popular Director and Shockwave, a $900 value. Show attendees can get $250 off any Power Computing system that costs more than $2,500. The company will also throw in a free modem. Neither of the primaryPowerPC chip makers IBM's Microelectronics Division in Fishkill, N.Y., and Motorola, Inc.'s RISC processor division in Austin, Texas has officially announced a 300-MHz Power-PC chip. But IBM and Motorola last summer announced their in-tentions to deliver this year a line of PowerPC processors called the G3 line with speedsranging from 200 MHz to 400 MHz. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple's move: Mach kernel Message-ID: <8CF82A0.09B800002C.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 97 11:12:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 What's Apple's NeXT Move? 1/06/97 Computer Reseller News San Francisco -- Gilbert Amelio will provide the first details of how Apple plans to integrate its planned purchase of NeXT Software Inc. and how NeXT's technology will help solve Apple's delays in bringing the next version of the MacOS to market. Apple is planning to release a developer beta version first and could ship a full-blown operating system by the end of this year, said NeXT Vice President of Engineering Avi Tevanian. The operating system will run out of the box on PowerPC and Intel Corp. microprocessors and will support Windows NT applications and APIs, Tevanian said. Apple has not yet decided how compatible it will be with existing Macintosh applications, but expects it to support "major applications" in the first release. "The applications that people use the most will run-Microsoft Corp.'s Office, mail programs, general productivity applications that are well- behaved. System 7 compatibility is an overriding concern. There will be a few minor applications that won't work, but we will fix those over time," Tevanian said. The new operating system will support "any hardware that's shipping today," Tevanian said, although Apple also plans to ship new versions of System 7 this month and in July. Apple will continue shipping System 7 "as long as customers demand new revisions," he said. Tevanian agreed with developers who said the new operating system will arrive faster if it is based on NeXT's Mach kernel but would not discuss Apple's plans. Other NeXT sources said the underlying Mach kernel and parts of the NeXTStep OS already have been ported to the PowerMac used at NeXT, so the first step toward integration has occurred. Tevanian said developers will choose the new operating system over Windows because it is easier to use. "If you program for Windows today, you spend a lot of engineering time just trying to make things work on Windows," he said. Metrowerks Inc. President Greg Galanos said it is up to Apple to generate support. Metrowerks will deliver its first set of compilers and tools for the new operating system at the Apple Worldwide Developers Conference in May. Developers can begin working in Objective C, which is the NeXTStep language, while preserving their investment in C and C++, Galanos said. By Macworld 1998, Metrowerks plans to have a full-blown rapid application development environment, including debugging, that runs on Be, Windows NT and Windows 95, the current MacOS, and the new operating system. It also will work on OpenStep running on NT and NeXTStep running on Intel. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null Message-ID: <1997Jan4.170331.1112@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: far@ix.netcom.com Organization: Disorganization References: <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 17:03:31 GMT In <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Felipe A. Rodriguez wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone has written a Mail.app filtering system > to auto send mail from certain sites to /dev/null ? A UNIX tool > would also be fine. Not in Mail.app, but in the mail-delivery. Put a file '.forward' in your home dir and enter '|/somepath/spam-filter' ------------ An example of spam-filter ------------------------------- #! /bin/sh # MAIL=/tmp/MAIL$$ MAILBOX=/usr/spool/mail/`/usr/ucb/whoami` umask 077 cat >$MAIL JUNKMAIL="<some regexp which filters spam-mail>" JUNK=`grep "$JUNKMAIL" $MAIL` if [ "$JUNK" = "" ] then cat $MAIL >>$MAILBOX echo >>$MAILBOX echo >>$MAILBOX fi rm -f $MAIL > > I just recieved a SPAM mail with the footer below which was the > last straw. > > Some idiot named joe@joes.com wrote: > >p.s.--Discretion is requested and assured. > > >If you wish to be removed from my email list, Sorry, > >no can do. The net is a free for all and if you don't > >like this email, simply delete it from your inbox. > > Is this guy rude or what? Try to find out which path the mail took and complain at the postmaster(s) of the relevant machines. -- C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung
From: "Karl Thomas" <karlt@ilinks.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Be vs NeXT Date: 5 Jan 1997 13:47:41 GMT Organization: Zip News Message-ID: <01bbfb0e$c2edd120$73c289ce@ns1.ilinks.net> References: <19961224193600.OAA14529@ladder01.news.aol.com> <01bbfa83$fc459920$102c1281@demoroom> <mmunz-0401971829120001@slc-dial-31.inconnect.com> Mark Munz <mmunz@inconnect.com> wrote in article <mmunz-0401971829120001@slc-dial-31.inconnect.com>... > I agree with most of your statement, but the last bit is questionable. I > think it is important to look at the load time of an OS. Load times for > Macintosh seem to get longer with each new release - not a good trend. > Now, it is possible that the differences are due to different services > that are offered. If these are necessary services that Next offers that > haven't made it to the BeOS, then that's OK - if however it is the same > services, maybe there needs to be some work done to improve the > performance. Why is load time so important? Of course on the Mac it's important because you end up restarting so much. But most people who use a stable OS like NeXTStep boot their computers at most once day when they first start it.
From: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 05 Jan 1997 20:12:17 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <SHAFFER.97Jan5221217@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <5aigpk$mft@nntp1.best.com> <5amqvj$4kv@gaea.titan.org> <32d2f893.921819456@snews.zippo.com> <5anu1c$j78@news.bctel.net> <jbf-ya023580000501971219310001@news.tiac.net> In-reply-to: jbf@frazer.com's message of Sun, 05 Jan 1997 12:19:31 -0500 GateKeeper (a PD or shareware app on peak and peanuts) claims to support dial-on-demand (you must get the DoD version as well as a different version of BIND). I have not tested it, just read the docs. I don't use GateKeeper for other reasons but if you need DoD then I think it should be a good solution assuming that it works. David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 dshaffer@wscunx1.wsc.edu >>>>> "James" == James B Frazer <jbf@frazer.com> writes: In article <jbf-ya023580000501971219310001@news.tiac.net> jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) writes: James> In article <5anu1c$j78@news.bctel.net>, Scott wrote: >> dehoog@bc.mbn.or.jp (John De Hoog) wrote: James> snip >> >One thing I learned is that ... support for dial-on-demand >> Internet services is still inadequate. >> >> There is a shareware app called the Simple Internet Starter Kit >> that offers a GUI for configuring PPP on Nextstep. I used it >> before switching to a dedicated T3 Ethernet connection. Also, >> Openstep 4.0 is supposed to have better PPP support. James> I seem to recall that the posted comments on 4.X (which I James> haven't upgraded to) are to the effect that the PPP is the James> same as the freeware version, and does not include James> dial-on-demand. If so, John is correct. Perhaps someone James> using PPP in 4.X could comment? James> Barney -- David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 dshaffer@wscgate.wsc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null Message-ID: <E3Jw8C.Htv@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology References: <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <5am7nb$14l@boursy.news.erols.com> <5ame9n$skp@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 19:45:48 GMT In article <5ame9n$skp@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: >robert@amo.mit.edu (Robert Lutwak) wrote: >> In article <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe >> A. Rodriguez) writes: >> > >> > I just recieved a SPAM mail with the footer below which was the >> > last straw. >> > >> > Some idiot named joe@joes.com wrote: >> >> Just for the record, I received the same crap. >> I sent a note to postmaster@joes.com, but I imagine >> that joe is also alias postmaster. > > I sent email to he.net which services the joes.com email domain and >received the following response. Note the good suggestion to contact our >congresspeople about making SPAMing illegal. DO IT!! > I have to agree. There is something really nasty happening. Here's one I just received. ---------------------------------------------------------------- To keep up with the respect of internet users who wish their names removed from Noci Marketing's emailing list, simply mail to: noci@cyberpromo.com and type "remove" in the subject field or message body. It's that simple. NOTE TO FLAMERS:DON'T DO IT! We will comply with and respect all REMOVE requests, but if we are flamed we will (a) FLAME YOU 1000 times as much (b)email to 3 million people a questionable item with your return email address. We want respect as much as anyone else, so if you give it, you shall receive it. Your message will be forwarded to Cybergen Health, but will be filtered for questionable content and size(max. 5K), and if it does not comply with our acceptable usage, our software will IMMEDIATELY and AUTOMATICALLY proceed to implement the remedies described above. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Can you believe that these guys are _threatening_ the people they are _spamming_? These people deserve no respect because they have shown none to me or the other 3 million (they're bragging about how widely they're spamming!) people they have spammed. They send me a message of 17k and say if I send them a message over 5k they'll automatically reflect it 1000 times? This stuff doesn't have anything to do with the first amendment. We need to make this illegal! How do I complain and get these guys access cut off? The header was: -------------------------------------------------------------------- Return-Path: nicmrk@orchid.com Received: from nd.edu (mail.nd.edu [129.74.250.101]) by calliope.psych.nd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA20784 for <sboker@calliope.psych.nd.edu>; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 13:54:12 -0500 (EST) From: nicmrk@orchid.com Received: from mars.itc.Virginia.EDU by nd.edu with SMTP (PP) id <sg.03453-0@nd.edu>; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 13:51:05 -0500 Received: from virginia.edu (actually mars.itc.Virginia.EDU) by nd.edu with SMTP (PP); Sun, 5 Jan 1997 13:50:51 -0500 Received: from kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa00603; 5 Jan 97 13:50 EST Received: from smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA00439 for <smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu>; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 13:50:16 -0500 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA125817; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 18:04:32 GMT ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Steven M. Boker (219) 631-4941 (office) (219) 631-8883 (fax) boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556
From: "C. Stephen Turnbull" <turnbull@datarev.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mind Over Mail (Salt Spring Technical - Still Available) Date: 5 Jan 1997 20:13:39 GMT Organization: dataREV Information Technologies Inc. Message-ID: <01bbfb45$3d3884d0$0b4ad0cd@voyager> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have been using an application called mind over mail and recently changed the machine it was running on. Because the software was bound to the ethernet address it no longer works. Does anyone have a current email address for salt spring technical or a location where I can obtain a new program Thanks Steve Turnbull -- turnbull@datarev.com
From: nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan M. Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Changing Object Icons in NeXTSTEP? Date: 5 Jan 1997 15:51:39 -0500 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5ap48r$epc@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> References: <32CF83A2.4F3B@us.oracle.com> In article <32CF83A2.4F3B@us.oracle.com>, Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> wrote: > What is the process for changing icons for apps, documents, folders, > etc... Unfortunately, this isn't as nice as it is on, say, OS/2. Apps: The icon used to be embedded in the app binary itself. Now I think it's stored in the app wrapper folder, called "AppName.tiff". Documents: Not sure.. might still be embedded in the app binary. You can't assign an arbitrary icon to an arbitrary document. Instead, the Workspace looks up the default application for that file type, and finds out what icon that application displays for that type. (Icons can change depending on what you're using as your default application!) Folders: This is easy. Just place files named .dir.tiff and .opendir.tiff in that folder. The workspace will display the .dir.tiff icon for that folder, and the .opendir.tiff icon when you are dropping something into it. (This is normally used to show the folder "opening up" when you are about to drop something.) -- Nathan Urban | nurban@vt.edu | Undergrad {CS,Physics,Math} | Virginia Tech
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null Date: 5 Jan 1997 21:09:29 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ap5a9$k23@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> References: <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <5am7nb$14l@boursy.news.erols.com> <5ame9n$skp@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <E3Jw8C.Htv@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) wrote: > I have to agree. There is something really nasty happening. Here's one > I just received. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To keep up with the respect of internet users who wish their names removed from Noci Marketing's emailing list, simply mail to: noci@cyberpromo.com and type "remove" in the subject field or message body. It's that simple. NOTE TO FLAMERS:DON'T DO IT! We will comply with and respect all REMOVE requests, but if we are flamed we will (a) FLAME YOU 1000 times as much (b)email to 3 million people a questionable item with your return email address. We want respect > as much as anyone else, so if you give it, you shall receive it. > Your message will be forwarded to Cybergen Health, but will be filtered for questionable content and size(max. 5K), and if it does not comply with our acceptable usage, our software will IMMEDIATELY and AUTOMATICALLY proceed to implement the remedies described above. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Can you believe that these guys are _threatening_ the people > they are _spamming_? These people deserve no respect because > they have shown none to me or the other 3 million (they're > bragging about how widely they're spamming!) people they > have spammed. They send me a message of 17k and say if I > send them a message over 5k they'll automatically reflect > it 1000 times? > This stuff doesn't have anything to do with the first amendment. > We need to make this illegal! > How do I complain and get these guys access cut off? I received 2 identical 17k messages from these guys today. After receiving the first one, I followed their remove procedure and received a response from cyberpromo.com stating that orchid.com's account had been terminated on 4 Jan due to the above threats. I'm skeptical, but maybe it's really true. However, orchid.com will just migrate to another ISP, so we'll probably be harassed again. I might also complain to postmaster@ibm.net which appears to be involved in forwarding orchid.com's messages. whois reports the following, but it may be out of date. Complaints to postmaster@exodus.net, willyh@ORCHID.COM, etc. might help. Orchid Technology (ORCHID-DOM) 45365 Northport Loop West Fremont, CA 94538 Domain Name: ORCHID.COM Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Hertanu, Willy (WH11) willyh@ORCHID.COM (510) 683-0426 Record last updated on 17-Aug-95. Record created on 24-Aug-93. Domain servers in listed order: NS.EXODUS.NET 206.79.230.10 NS2.EXODUS.NET 207.82.198.150 Write your Congress members and ask them to sponsor a bill making unsolicited commercial junk email messages illegal like what has apparently been done for unsolicited commercial junk fax messages. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 5 Jan 1997 21:50:14 GMT Organization: UNINETT news service Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> Robert Iacullo writes: : jmiller wrote: : > : > If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: : > They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) : > They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? : They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. Where can I buy one? Cheers...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <me@nextbox> Message-ID: <9701050308.AA00267@nextbox.enteract.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Kevin Coffee <me@nextbox> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 97 21:08:47 -0600 Subject: re: remote apps on Mac References: <199701031229.EAA28450@lists1.best.com> Take a look at the MacOS 7.x Sharing Setup control panel sometime. Users can allow remote access of applications, and this funtion is used for some administrative-type programs to advantage, c.f. the administration app for the WebStar http server (though the lastest WebStar rev also provides an interface via http, which is more economical.) However the central point (if I've followed this discussion correctly) is mainly true - because the MacOS uses cooperative multitasking. The efficiency of running applications over the network is weighted by the processes running on the remote host. You wouldn't like it if someone were (remotely) running Photoshop off your desktop machine... -Kevin On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Antigone List Manager wrote: > In article <19970101070158114990@peu1-115.m.eunet.de>, > Wolfgang Keller <wolfgang@amadeus.m.eunet.de> wrote: > >X-no-archive: yes > > > >Under MacOS, running applications remotely is not a standard > >built-in feature of the OS, and it is not reasonable to do this > >(via third-part utilities) either (for standard applications) > >because there is no possibility at all to work with more than one > >user at a time on a Mac. Running applications remotely doesn't > >make any sense on a single-user OS.
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Favorite sendmail bugs Date: 6 Jan 1997 00:01:45 GMT Organization: Squonk-Net, Loudonville, NY 12211 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5apfd9$r0d@duke.squonk.net> References: <32BD0901.48ED@sfbayrun.com> <59kdkl$ohd@news4.digex.net> <E2vBuB.22J@micmac.com> <jinx6568-3012961209030001@news.sover.net> <32c95a03.169884656@mambo> <5a9vsr$4fs@camel5.mindspring.com> <5ah3a6$1ek@precipice.fdn.fr> hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) wrote: > Yes, sendmail is complex. > It is complex because it does a lot things. Since it is complex > it can contains bugs. But since it is useda lot on Internet, it > is now one of the most tested software on unix. You will be able > to find still new bugs but more the time will go on more it will > be hard to find bugs. I believe that the first time I heard this fantasy from a Unix wizard was probably around 1987. It's nice that some things stay the same. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: froz@algonet.se (Mats Forssblad) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 01:50:06 GMT Organization: AlgoNet Public Access Node, Stockholm Message-ID: <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se> References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> NNTP-Posting-User: b7fe697fc47f6ef7093c87732e2a5b740 lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) wrote: >Robert Iacullo writes: >: jmiller wrote: >: > >: > If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: >: > They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) >: > They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? >: They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. > Where can I buy one? > Cheers.. Rick Bergman, VP/Marketing for Exponential Technolog says: "We expect to go from 533 megahertz up to as much as a thousand megahertz or a gigahertz." (http://www.newmedianews.com/110996/lo_exponential.html) By the way, how fast (sorry, how many mhz) is the fastest mainframe/any cpu?
From: crobato@kuentos.guam.net Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 6 Jan 1997 03:27:57 GMT Organization: Kuentos Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5aprft$af9@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se> In <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se>, froz@algonet.se (Mats Forssblad) writes: >lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) wrote: > >>Robert Iacullo writes: >>: jmiller wrote: >>: > >>: > If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: >>: > They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) >>: > They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? > >>: They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. > >> Where can I buy one? >> Cheers.. > >Rick Bergman, VP/Marketing for Exponential Technolog says: >"We expect to go from 533 megahertz up to as much as a thousand >megahertz or a gigahertz." >(http://www.newmedianews.com/110996/lo_exponential.html) > >By the way, how fast (sorry, how many mhz) is the fastest >mainframe/any cpu? > Way lower than this. I think about 300MHz. It does not matter. Mainframes are not about MHz, just as super computers are not as well. They are about fail safe reliability. They are about multitentacled, multprocessor monsters with lotsa processors running in parallel, talking to each other through buses that zip gigabytes per sec. Rgds, Chris Famous People on the Day Windows 95 is Launched--- Neil Armstrong---"One Small Fortune for Bill Gates, One Giant Leap backward for Mankind." President Roosevelt---"This date shall live in infamy." *** crobato@kuentos.guam.net *** TKS for the Contributions.
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:31:40 +1030 From: dwareing@adelaide.on.net (David Wareing) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Distribution: inet Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Message-ID: <dwareing-3012962231400001@ppp136.adelaide.on.net.au> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <carol1-2212961927330001@macip-ara-153.apple.com> <32be96c1.37286449@news.sover.net> <32C04323.2A0B@bhip.infi.net> <32c0b947.56680464@news.sover.net> Organization: Weyland Yutani - Building Better Worlds In article <32c0b947.56680464@news.sover.net>, togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) wrote: >Richard Fleming <rhflem@bhip.infi.net> wrote: > >>Lance Togar wrote: >>> And it caught on so well that 9 out 10 computer purchases aren't MACs. >>> But then, what do the rest (read vast majority) know. We're all just >>> sloshing around throwing our money away on non MAC computers because >>> we haven't seen the light. >>> >>> Oh well.... >> >>Cockroaches are more numerous than humans. That does not make them a >>higher life form! Oh Well... > >Ok, lets see. They've been on the planet a LOT longer than we have. >They take good care of their young - all of 'em. They spend very >little time killing each other. They've survived ALL of our high tech >attempts at extermination. Sounds like a success story to me and to >someone on the outside looking in, it might very well appear that THEY >have the upper hand. Doesn't sound like you're in much of a position >to judge life forms so... it's back to computers. >Oh, well.... Ok, we'll accept your fluffy New-Age arguments and concede that you (and David Suzuki) are inferior to cockroaches and blue-green algae. However, I am better than a cockroach and as such I'm more discerning when it comes to choosing a GUI. I want NeXTStep with *some* Apple technologies (e.g. QuickTime, Sprockets) thrown in. Eventually, I want a brand new GUI that completely replaces the desktop metaphor. -- David Wareing dwareing@adelaide.on.net Belair, South Australia http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/~dwareing/ Macintosh Games Development Junk e-mail me at your own risk Get Swoop at http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/Ambrosia_Products/Swoop.html Get Bubble Trouble at http://bubble-trouble.com/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701051651.LAA18669@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: e02c66cbfce9d8328b20e4e745dbfaac - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jan 97 11:51:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: e02c66cbfce9d8328b20e4e745dbfaac - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Original Date: 4 Jan 1997 17:54:41 GMT > I, too, received this rude mailing. Is there anything we can do > with this info to prevent future mailings? Sure, use procmail create an ASCII file with the email addresses. Save it as .killbyfrom put this in .procmailrc: # This is where it begins SENDER=`formail -rtzxTo:` :0 * ? grep -s -i -w "$SENDER" $HOME/.killbyfrom /dev/null # This is where it ends (note: if the file gets really large, you'll have to use the GNU grep, which can handle larger files.) I've been doing this for quite awhile now, it works quite nicely. You can get procmail precompiled for NeXTStep here: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/procmail.3.11pre4.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/procmail.3.11pre4.README NOTE: unsolicited email is illegal, because it takes your resources to download it. NOTE2: sendmail 8.8.x has built-in functionality to bounce email from users & domains, see http://www.nepean.uws.edu.au/users/david/pe/blockmail.html for more. Anyone who gets more than 5 messages per day should learn procmail. It's pretty easy once you have the basics down, and there's a GREAT!!! mailing list of really cool people use know procmail so well it's sometimes scary TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701051705.MAA18791@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 6e7b3469a45b0f9f0d83a98706255e43 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jan 97 12:05:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 6e7b3469a45b0f9f0d83a98706255e43 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: dehoog@bc.mbn.or.jp (John De Hoog) Original Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 00:54:12 GMT > >And as for the original article that started this thread, it > >seemed like an obvious troll to me - I'm not sure why anyone > >deigned to respond. > > I'm sorry you took it that way. I originated this thread in order > to learn more about the practical aspects involved in adopting > NeXTStep now or later, and to find out the current status of > application support for a SOHO user. It was never meant as a troll. > Many people emailed me privately with useful advice, as a result of > which I now have a better understanding of the situation. I'm not sure exactly what is meant by "troll"..... If what was meant was "looking to find out" that's one thing, "looking to brag about what MS has" that's another. As for the first, there's nothing wrong with it. As for the second, if someone is bragging about MS, there's probably nothing we can do to help them. I read in PC Mag about a month ago a letter that said "What do so many people have against MicroSoft building quality apps and being successful. The software is great and Windows95 is the coolest thing I've ever seen." MS is huge because it succeeded in lowering everyone's expectations and making it think that MS developed apps, rather than copying them.... That said: invention is nice, but it only counts for so much. How many people would buy a Ford just because Henry Ford did the Model-T? If you invent something that's great, but you also have to continue working on it and get it out there. > One thing I learned is that most NeXTStep users today apparently do > not use the Internet from standalone, dialup ISP accounts. For this > reason, support for dial-on-demand Internet services is still > inadequate. NeXTStep 3.3 and GateKeeper.app can do dial on demand. There's also DialOnDemand.app that gives some of DOD functionality. It's there if you want to put the pieces together. Maybe it isn't as easy as you'd like it (I feel that way, not wanting to deal with DNS stuff on my own machine) but if you want it, it is there. Also: if you are looking to do WP-type stuff, use MS. NeXTStep is not good at doing WP-type stuff. If you want a consistent GUI, stable environment, total internet connectivity without expensive add-ons, tear-off menus, smart key accelerators that work right, and other stuff I can't think of, then use NeXTStep. If you need to use Word, get it and setup your machine to dual boot, one for MS when you want to word-process, and one for NeXTstep when you want a workstation. My NSHO TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
From: sputnik@aloha.net (Virgil) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.mac.graphics Subject: Re: €MacUser is looking for some advice Date: 6 Jan 1997 03:56:10 GMT Organization: Anonymous Net Surfer Message-ID: <sputnik-0501971822280001@oahu-599.u.aloha.net> References: <lance-ya023180002012960620450001@news.psnw.com> <steveax-ya023680002012962340450001@news.teleport.com> <lance-ya023180002112960858290001@news.psnw.com> <59s7kj$rb2@rainbow.rmii.com> <david-2612960456090001@annex1s48.urc.tue.nl> In article <david-2612960456090001@annex1s48.urc.tue.nl>, david@lookoutgfx.com (David Andriessen) wrote: **In article <59s7kj$rb2@rainbow.rmii.com>, blanche@rmi.net (Blanche Cohen) wrote: ** **> Lance Scott <lance@psnw.com> wrote: **> >http://www.next.com/Merger/MergerRelease.html **> **> >It's official...!! **> **> **> So - does this mean that Apple gets Pixar, too? **> ** **No, Pixar is a separate company. I guess there is a chance that RenderMan **will be part of the next MacOS perhaps in the form of a Quickdraw 3D **Render Plug-in because it's part of the NeXT OS. ** **Of course all this has to be ported to new OS before we can even start **thinking about it. At the moment though QD3D doesn't perform well at all, **even acceleration by 3D boards doesn't impress me. The amount of speed **increase you get from them are often surpassed by the next CPU speed **increase. Something is wrong inside that API or QD3D layer, don't ask me **what I'm not a programmer:) ** David, I have an Xclaim VR card which I installed into my Power Center 150 and I really notice the difference in speed in rendering into animation and applying texture maps. Maybe your using an older version of QD3D but the speed can be felt on other finder functions such as scrolling and opening up applications. If you want I can even give you my benchmarks before and after installing the card. **-- ** ** **david -- Virgil sputnik@aloha.net Livewire from Hawaii.....
From: Ones-And-Zeros@prodigy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ! MASS POST Was Here! (GmSNpA) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 05:40:07 GMT Organization: Mass Post Message-ID: <5aq38q$3no6@usenet1y.prodigy.net> MASS POST--the program by Ones and Zeros--has been used to send this message to thousands of newsgroups. (GmSNpA)
From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need help from users of Rasmol for NEXTSTEP Date: 6 Jan 1997 05:44:41 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5aq3g9$h71@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> I am desperately looking for somebody who might help in recompiling the NEXTSTEP version of RasMol to update it and implement some functionalities that have been added to the other versions (Mac, Windows, SGI, etc.). For those who may not know about RasMol, it is a molecular display freeware written by Roger Sayle of Glaxo Wellcome. He has generously shared the code with the scientific world (supposedly 30,000 visitors to the RasMol home page over last 9 months, most recent count). It has been compiled for just about any platform one can think of. The problem is I believe nobody is maintaining the NEXTSTEP version. I tried to compile the NEXTSTEP version from the source code, there did not appear to be any problems in compilation, but I am unable to get a graphics display on the window. I will give more detail to any chemist, biochemist, molecular biologist, ... inerested in helping out. -- ********************************************************** Victoria M. Bragin Physical Sciences Division, Pasadena City College 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA 91106-2003 Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 E-mail: (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) vbragin@nextlab.calstatela.edu vbragin@ix.netcom.com vbragin@paccd.cc.ca.us vbragin@pslc.ucla.edu **********************************************************
From: Tomaz Sustar <tomaz.sustar@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to avoid printing banner pages ? Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 07:08:01 +0100 Organization: Komunikacijsko Informacijski Servis SOU - KISS Message-ID: <32D096C1.69AC@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using GSPrintFilter (great stuff !!! ) with HP LaserJet 4. My problem is that I don't know how to avoid printing banner pages. Any help will be appreciated. -- Thanks in advance Tomaz =============================================== Tomaz Sustar (Ljubljana / Slovenija) Private : Tomaz.Sustar@net.zaslon.si Work : tomaz.sustar@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 02:02:22 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023580000601970202220001@news.tiac.net> References: 6e7b3469a45b0f9f0d83a98706255e43 - <199701051705.MAA18791@nerc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <199701051705.MAA18791@nerc.com>, luomat@peak.org wrote: > Also: if you are looking to do ... total internet connectivity ... then use NeXTStep. Flame shield on ;-): Now really. Failure to respond to the Internet explosion with NS mods was a NeXT goof. Recall that 4.X is Openstep, and apparently based on third party ports at that. If you want dial-up Internet connectivity in NS (and I've not upgraded to 4.X) you use third party apps. And they work pretty well. Specifically, PPP, Gatekeeper, pop3d, formail/procmail and Apache. Plus the bundled anonymous FTP. Hmmh. Not much from NeXT. Of course, without the third party apps I'd have dumped NS years ago. Where's the "it just works" NeXT-like solution? Socks? A neat firewall approach? Doesn't exist. Too much time lost configuring it (whatever you come up with). No approach for multiple low-use machines on a single low-cost account (I gather it exists on NT). Not that the Mac is any better. But Internet access on either platform has a long way to go. One would expect this for NS, given the marketing emphasis. The original poster (John De Hoag) is right on. Flame shield off. Barney
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: remote apps on Mac Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 02:13:31 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023580000601970213310001@news.tiac.net> References: <199701031229.EAA28450@lists1.best.com> <9701050308.AA00267@nextbox.enteract.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The question appears to be whether one can run remote apps better on NS than on Mac. A while ago I asked for info on whether one could really run NS apps over a wide area net (ie, outside the subnet the requesting machine is on). No one in the NeXT community posted a positive response and, in fact, my trials indicated it didn't work. Apparently it depends on mach rather than TCP/IP messages. Does this indiccate that the MacOS has an advantage (gasp ;-))? Barney
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null Date: 6 Jan 1997 06:08:23 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <slrn5d1589.hp8.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> References: <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <E3IJCx.1MA@micmac.com> In article <E3IJCx.1MA@micmac.com>, Michel Coste wrote: >In <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Felipe A. Rodriguez wrote: >> I just recieved a SPAM mail with the footer below which was the >> last straw. >I received the same... Now, surely you people with UNIX machines and access to telnet and sendmail and the like realize that you can just send these people a message that is apparently from them. Some people aren't smart enough to guard against such feedback... Someone with a "vacation" script was spamming me on a daily basis, so I fed his automailer a message which was tagged as from his site's postmaster... Worked well... Paul
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5aq38q$3no6@usenet1y.prodigy.net> Date: 6 Jan 1997 06:27:22 GMT Control: cancel <5aq38q$3no6@usenet1y.prodigy.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5aq38q$3no6@usenet1y.prodigy.net> Sender: Ones-And-Zeros@prodigy.net Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: Kevin Palmer <kpalmer@neosoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Games on NeXTstep (Was Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back!) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 02:01:33 -0500 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32D0A342.3068@neosoft.com> References: <32BA667C.403A@sfbayrun.com> <59f2t1$ohl@youth.yth> <59oq37$q7l@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5a2g5h$hu7@gaea.titan.org> <32c5d7fe.257162@pbinews.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff Dallacqua wrote: > > On 28 Dec 1996 06:53:37 GMT, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com > wrote: > > >For those who don't know, Trilobyte used NeXTstep to create 7th Guest > >and 11th Hour. Id used NeXTstep to create Doom and Quake. > > Weren't the video sequences for 7th Guest(and maybe 11th Hour) > done with 3DStudio(although I guess this doesn't necessarily mean > they didn't use NeXTstep for any of it)? -- I am almost positive that the images on 7th guest were done in Alias|Wavefront Power Animator on the SGI. It was a while back when I read the article. Kevin Palmer fon 713-787-6828 pgr 281-725-6737 net kpalmer@neosoft.com URL www.neosoft.com/~kpalmer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pwalter@mediahaus.de (Piers Uso Walter) Subject: bug? hqx decoder of Opener.app using up *all* virtual memory Message-ID: <E3K9H4.5M9@mediahaus.de> Sender: news@mediahaus.de (News System) Organization: Mediahaus Stroebel in Duesseldorf (Germany) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:31:52 GMT I tried sending this to howardd@swissbank.com (using the suggestion menu command of Opener.app), but the mail bounced. So if anybody knows Denises email (or the email address of the author of the hqx decoder of Opener.app), please forward this bug report. Thanks a lot. Piers Uso Walter ilink GmbH Piers_Walter@ilink.de -- Here's the bug: Sometimes I receive Emails with huge attachments (hqx files) sent from a Mac with Eudora. Everytime I doubleclick on one of these hqx files, the hqx decoder of Opener.app (Version 3.3 April 1995) uses up ALL virtual memory without producing any output files. Usually I've got between 500 and 800 MB of free disk space - the hqx decoder uses up all of this space for swapfile growth, there seems to be no end to its virtual memory requirements. I find it to be **extremely** unlikely that actually this amount of memory is needed to decode a 20 MB hqx file, so I suspect something is running astray. This bug always occurs with hqx files over 20 MB, it has happened to me with a 13 MB file once. Files in the 6 to 7 MB range never seem to trigger this bug.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Subject: Re: Virtuoso All The Way! Re: Adobe Frame5 and Illustrator/Intel? Message-ID: <E3JH54.zn@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany References: <5amii4$hhn@usc.edu> Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:19:52 GMT In article <5amii4$hhn@usc.edu> reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) writes: > In <5al3ka$4mq@sun.sirius.com> Nik Gervae wrote: > > So, with the big news, can anybody who knows anybody at Adobe or Omni > > tell us if there will be an OpenStep update to FrameMaker, and if > > they'll at least *recompile* Illustrator 3 on NextStep 3.3 so we can > > run it on our Intel boxes...? > > > Better Yet - Let's get Virtuoso back up on the developing board! I'll > take it any day over Illustrator! > I would confirm it too -- lets get back VIRTUOSO !!! MAnfred
From: t21@ix.netcom.com (Stephan Schaem) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Sun, 05 Jan 97 19:07:25 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5apps0$p4u@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se> In article <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se>, froz@algonet.se (Mats Forssblad) wrote: >lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) wrote: > >>Robert Iacullo writes: >>: jmiller wrote: >>: > >>: > If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: >>: > They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) >>: > They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? > >>: They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. > >> Where can I buy one? >> Cheers.. > >Rick Bergman, VP/Marketing for Exponential Technolog says: >"We expect to go from 533 megahertz up to as much as a thousand >megahertz or a gigahertz." >(http://www.newmedianews.com/110996/lo_exponential.html) > >By the way, how fast (sorry, how many mhz) is the fastest >mainframe/any cpu? > how big is the cache on this 1000mhz PPC? And how fast is the memory system of current system... For many things today its not the CPU that the problem, but the memory speed. Stephan
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 15:31:45 +1030 From: dwareing@adelaide.on.net (David Wareing) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Distribution: inet Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Message-ID: <dwareing-3112961531450001@ppp41.adelaide.on.net.au> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <carol1-2212961927330001@macip-ara-153.apple.com> <32be96c1.37286449@news.sover.net> <5a9aau$qmj@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <32c86306.346996593@news.sover.net> Organization: Weyland Yutani - Building Better Worlds In article <32c86306.346996593@news.sover.net>, togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) wrote: >christw@lexis-nexis.com (Christopher C. Wood) wrote: >>|> >Apple then paid Xerox an enormous amount of stock for the rights >>|> >to many of their windowing/mice ideas. >> >>|> Xerox got screwed but it wasn't the first time. >> >>Xerox got $2 Million to $7 Million (depending on when they exercised >>their stock options) for no risk and a day's time of some of their R&D >>staff. You say they got screwed. Can you support that with anything >>more than just your opinion? >> >I haven't seen any support for the 2 - 7 million figure but let's say >it's right on. Xerox SHOULD have rented the widows/mice stuff in the >same way that MS rented BASIC. Very poor management decision. Xerox >got screwed - plain and simple. Xerox were the ones who made the supposed mistake*, yet you're blaming Apple for screwing them over? How does that work out? (*remember that they didn't have crystal balls in the early '80s. Neither you nor Xerox knew that Apple were going to totally revolutionize the industry. They did know however, that their stock was valuable, and thus took up an opportunity to get their hands on some -- at the time it would have made great sense. It's only with 20/20 hindsight that you can pass your judgement on Xerox). -- David Wareing dwareing@adelaide.on.net Belair, South Australia http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/~dwareing/ Macintosh Games Development Junk e-mail me at your own risk Get Swoop at http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/Ambrosia_Products/Swoop.html Get Bubble Trouble at http://bubble-trouble.com/
From: a9101322@unet.univie.ac.at () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ZipDrive under Nextstep? Date: 6 Jan 1997 12:57:47 GMT Organization: Vienna University, Austria Message-ID: <5aqssb$ff8@www.univie.ac.at> Does anyone know if it is possible to run IOmegas ZipDrive under Nextstep? If so, how? Guenther
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Favorite sendmail bugs Date: 6 Jan 1997 13:05:06 GMT Organization: Universitaet Osnabrueck Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5aqta2$ee7@deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de> References: <32BD0901.48ED@sfbayrun.com> <59kdkl$ohd@news4.digex.net> <E2vBuB.22J@micmac.com> <jinx6568-3012961209030001@news.sover.net> <32c95a03.169884656@mambo> <5a9vsr$4fs@camel5.mindspring.com> <5ah3a6$1ek@precipice.fdn.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <5ah3a6$1ek@precipice.fdn.fr>, hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) writes: >>>Sendmail is everything. >>>It's dessert topping, a floor cleaner and a kitchen sink. >> >>>And because it's everything, it's so damn ugly. Complex, huge and >>>cryptic as hell. Making it extremely bug prone. > Yes, sendmail is complex. > It is complex because it does a lot things. Since it is complex it > can contains bugs. From what i heard, there might be some other programs for mail delivery, which might not be as ugly and insecure as sendmail, but with still a lot of power. qmail or exim perhaps. Bernhard Reiter
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 09:11:06 -0600 From: ergosing@mbox2.singnet.com.sg Subject: Re: Chinese system. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <852433048.26448@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <5ai02n$l9i@transfer.stratus.com> In article <5ai02n$l9i@transfer.stratus.com>, edward_xu@vos.stratus.com (Edward Xu) wrote: > > Hi! > > I want to access Chinese web page. Does anyone know where to get Chinese > system on NeXT. Do we have Chinese system on NeXT? Any information. > Thanks. > > Edward. Hi, Edward You can find a good Chinese software, NJStar at below address http://www.njstar.com Bye -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: mandtbac@news.abo.fi (Mats Andtbacka) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Favorite sendmail bugs Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy Date: 6 Jan 1997 14:58:43 GMT Organization: Unorganized Usenet Postings UnInc. Distribution: comp Message-ID: <5ar3v3$t4j@josie.abo.fi> References: <32BD0901.48ED@sfbayrun.com> <59kdkl$ohd@news4.digex.net> <E2vBuB.22J@micmac.com> <jinx6568-3012961209030001@news.sover.net> <32c95a03.169884656@mambo> <5a9vsr$4fs@camel5.mindspring.com> <5ah3a6$1ek@precipice.fdn.fr> followups MASSIVELY pruned. Hugues RICHARD, in <5ah3a6$1ek@precipice.fdn.fr>: [...] >It is complex because it does a lot things. Since it is complex it >can contains bugs. But since it is useda lot on Internet, it is now >one of the most tested software on unix. You will be able to find >still new bugs but more the time will go on more it will be hard to >find bugs. how many years has it been, now? how many decades? the reason sendmail always has one more bug is that development still continues on it. *of course* there will be new bugs, as long as new code is still being added! >Now you can do lite version of sendmail, fo small servers. that would be by using some other MTA. sendmail is not without competition, you know. personally, i say if smail or qmail will do the job you want done, use one of them; use sendmail if and only if it'll do the job and no other package will. -- "...Everybody got this broken feeling like their father or their dog just died..." - Leonard Cohen
From: Yvan Herreros <herreros@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Configure.app ??? Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 16:01:19 +0100 Organization: Alcatel Alsthom Recherche, Marcoussis, France Message-ID: <32D113BF.619D@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am trying to get a 8mm exabyte tape driver working with my non turbo slab, NS 3.1. The only answer that I get when using it is "IO error", even when using fixed/variable block size setting programs. While browsing the FAQ, I have once or twice readen that I should install the SCSI tape drivers with "Configure.app". My system doesn't include such an app. So my question is, does this advice only apply for white hardware, or for NS > 3.2 ? Otherwise, all suggestions about a secret trick needed to get an exabyte working on a slab (other than the fixed/variable block size one) are welcome. Thanks, -- +===========================================+ | | | Yvan Herreros | +---------------+ | Alcatel Alsthom Recherche | | A L C A T E L | | Route de Nozay | +---------------+ | 91460 Marcoussis | | A L S T H O M | | FRANCE | +===============+ | | RECHERCHE | tel: 33-(0)1-69.63.11.94 | | fax: 33-(0)1-69.63.18.12 | | e-mail: herreros@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr | | | +===========================================+
From: mandtbac@news.abo.fi (Mats Andtbacka) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy Date: 6 Jan 1997 15:13:21 GMT Organization: Unorganized Usenet Postings UnInc. Distribution: comp Message-ID: <5ar4qh$t4j@josie.abo.fi> References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se> <5aprft$af9@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> followups pruned. crobato@kuentos.guam.net, in <5aprft$af9@lehi.kuentos.guam.net>: >In <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se>, froz@algonet.se (Mats Forssblad) writes: >>By the way, how fast (sorry, how many mhz) is the fastest >>mainframe/any cpu? >Way lower than this. I think about 300MHz. i understand the DEC Alpha ships in a 500MHz version. >It does not matter. Mainframes are not about MHz, just as super >computers are not as well. They are about fail safe reliability. that, and I/O. reliability is what clustering technologies specialize in, VAX/VMS clusters and the like. mainframes to some extent also - i heard IBM ships/shipped an MVS mainframe where you could change a faulty CPU on the fly. -- "...Everybody got this broken feeling like their father or their dog just died..." - Leonard Cohen
From: skappel@intranetsol.com (Steve Kappel) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 6 Jan 1997 16:05:56 GMT Organization: IntraNet Solutions, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ar7t4$6qv@misery.millcomm.com> References: <01bbef77$50776810$15818bce@djowens> <851275965mnewsachaney@voicenet.com> <59k1ke$5sr@news.hawaii.edu> <32BD3D7E.422C@sfbayrun.com> <32BDB8B6.5741@flash.net> <carol1-2212961724430001@macip-ara-32.apple.com> <5a4re1$qfe@news.bctel.net> <01bbf6ea$87569840$5813acce@chu.ipoline.com> <01bbf85d$f43ce8a0$5d13acce@chu.ipoline.com> <5ankv4$16em$4@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> In article <5ankv4$16em$4@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, zapster@ibm.net writes: >In <01bbf85d$f43ce8a0$5d13acce@chu.ipoline.com>, "Frank Chu" <chu@ipoline.com> writes: >>I have never seem a low chip such as PPC CPUS. I won't run a PMac since >>it runs that shitty MacOS. IBM's PPC runs a version of NT with nearly >>no applications available, and for the price of a System/6000(PPC CPU) >>running AIX I can get a SUN Sparc running Solaris with 50% more performance >>or even that newest O2 SGI. A SMP dual Pentium PRO200 with 512k cache >>onboard running ULTRA FAST Unixs like Solaris, BSD, Linux or SCO costs only >>half of those over priced shitty machines! PPC CPUs can really eat shit. > >Umm, I highly doubt sun makes anything that can beat an RS/6000 system >running with 512 processors... The IBM PowerParallel system is one of >the fastest, if not the fastest, generally available mainframe one can buy. >Solaris is also an extremely slow OS, it blows. So lesse, I have my IBM >RS/6000 PowerParalell with 512 processors and 16 gigs of ram. Lesse, You will be forgiven for your IBM-centric view. You are right in that Sun doesn't make it (yet). However, there are SPARC and Solaris platforms from other vendors that do. Try http://endeavor.fujitsu.co.jp/hypertext/fpcrf/e/ap1000.html which is about the Fujitsu AP1000 that supports up to 1024 SuperSPARCs. By slow Solaris you apparently have an outdated view, perhaps 4-5 years ago in the Solaris 2.0/2.1/2.2 days. Solaris 2.5 is very fast. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Steve Kappel steve.kappel@intranetsol.com IntraNet Solutions, Inc. http://www.intranetsol.com/~skappel 9625 West 76th Street skappel@winternet.com Eden Prairie, MN 55344
From: togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 18:12:53 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32d13df1.15751259@news.sover.net> References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se> <5apps0$p4u@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> t21@ix.netcom.com (Stephan Schaem) wrote: >In article <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se>, froz@algonet.se (Mats Forssblad) wrote: >>lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) wrote: >> >>>Robert Iacullo writes: >>>: jmiller wrote: >>>: > >>>: > If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: >>>: > They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) >>>: > They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? >> >>>: They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. >> >>> Where can I buy one? >>> Cheers.. >> >>Rick Bergman, VP/Marketing for Exponential Technolog says: >>"We expect to go from 533 megahertz up to as much as a thousand >>megahertz or a gigahertz." >>(http://www.newmedianews.com/110996/lo_exponential.html) >> >>By the way, how fast (sorry, how many mhz) is the fastest >>mainframe/any cpu? >> > > how big is the cache on this 1000mhz PPC? And how fast is the memory > system of current system... For many things today its not the CPU that > the problem, but the memory speed. > > Stephan > And that really is the point. The Exponential stuff is worthless without cache that can keep up and there is none at a reasonable price. Eventually, the data needs to got to main RAM - same problem. All this is so much fodder for the clueless types who equate CPU clock rates OR types to system speed.
From: brian@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Brian Glaeske) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What happened to SimonSays Date: 6 Jan 1997 20:20:51 GMT Organization: NDSU ACM Message-ID: <5armr3$do7@daily-planet.nodak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This will probably get lost in the Apple-NeXT discussion, but... Does anyone know what happened to the SimonSays (or SimonSez) product for the NeXT? It was a product that did speech activated macros. I always thought is was a cool program to show people, but lost it a couple of year ago because of a disk failure. If anyone has any information on it, please send me e-mail. Thanks, -- Brian Glaeske brian@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu http://www.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu/~brian ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Copy Microsoft software freely. It is the only way to destroy it.
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 6 Jan 1997 12:24:16 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5aqqtg$153@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <SHAFFER.97Jan5221217@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> In article <SHAFFER.97Jan5221217@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) writes: > >GateKeeper (a PD or shareware app on peak and peanuts) claims to >support dial-on-demand (you must get the DoD version as well as a >different version of BIND). I have not tested it, just read the docs. >I don't use GateKeeper for other reasons but if you need DoD then I >think it should be a good solution assuming that it works. > >David Shaffer >Department of Physics >Wayne State College >Wayne, NE 68787 >dshaffer@wscunx1.wsc.edu > > > Just to clarify matters, GateKeeper is released under the terms of the GNU General Public License. I ask for a fee only if you need my help configuring the app. Dial on Demand works and it works well so long as your provider does not have a consistent busy signal. If GateKeeper/PPP does not establish the connection within the first or second attempt the resolver queries will timeout. Netcom has gotten pretty good of late and so it works about 3/4 of the time for me. Last I heard the demand feature had not yet been added to PPP. When it is, I will modify GK to support this instead of the more complex BIND based mechanism GK now uses. snip -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GSPrintFilter: banner pages ? Date: 6 Jan 1997 22:15:05 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5arth9$mr@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <32D096C1.69AC@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si> In article <32D096C1.69AC@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si> Tomaz Sustar <tomaz.sustar@jupiter.ntfmim.uni-lj.si> writes: > I'm using GSPrintFilter (great stuff !!! ) with HP LaserJet 4. Thanks. > My problem is that I don't know how to avoid printing banner pages. Known bug in version 1.11. The fix can pretty much be done by hand with NetInfoManager or modifying the GSPrinterFilter.postinstall script (and executing it again). Here's my notes on the newest version: HISTORY 1.12 - Modularized GSPrintFilter into 3 separate packages: binaries, setup documentation, and fonts. * Fixed typo in GSPrintFilter.postinstall so that a 'burst page' no longer prints a garbage 1st page before actual printjob. The script SHOULD set the printcap variable sh (to false), not sb. Note: similar symptoms as this occur sometimes when using NeXT's Parallel port driver, especially when printouts stop after just a few pages. - Compiled against Xnext X11R6 libs (succesfully, this time). - Added drivers: lbp8, lips3, lj250 (and alternate declj250), oki182, okiibm, st800. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701061355.IAA06511@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <199701060702.CAA00354@mailnfs0.tiac.net> From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 97 08:55:08 -0500 Subject: NeXT's Internet capabilities vs Others' (Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps?) Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 6e7b3469a45b0f9f0d83a98706255e43 - <199701051705.MAA18791@nerc.com> <199701060702.CAA00354@mailnfs0.tiac.net> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Original Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 02:02:24 -0500 Message-ID: <199701060702.CAA00354@mailnfs0.tiac.net> > Where's the "it just works" NeXT-like solution? True enough on those points you mention, but does Win* have these abilities built in? I've seen add-on apps for being able to _telnet_ to your Win* machine. I can do that on my NeXT without any add-ons. I've seen add-ons for being able to ftp.... I can do that without any add-ons (although I prefer them). I've yet to see rsh/rlogin abilities on any Win* machine.... These basic Internet functions are things I use daily. There are other niceties like being able to set up other user accounts so someone else can login and compile programs. > Socks? A neat firewall approach? Doesn't exist. Too much time > lost configuring it Again, is NeXT any worse on these areas than Win*? I don't know, I don't use Win* stuff. I'm not saying it is perfect, believe me. I'm just saying that when it comes out of the box it has a lot better of a starting point than anything else I have seen. I could be wrong, it's just my observations.... TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
From: Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pretty icons? Date: Mon, 6 Jan 97 22:48:56 +0100 Organization: Warty Wolfs Message-ID: <9701062148.AA24816@basil.icce.rug.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.1mach v148) In article <19970105024000.VAA08188@ladder01.news.aol.com>, willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) wrote: > I upgraded my Cube on a new hard drive from 2.1 to 3.1, and was shocked to > see a NeXTStation icon for the root directory. I put in Cube tiffs for > .dir.tiff and .opendir.tiff, and they appear properly when I'm logged in > as root, but not for the me account. Try replacing /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/root.tiff /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/openRoot.tiff with the cube icons. Hope this helps, Tom "Mr. BlackIcons:-)" Hageman -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "Any magic sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable __/ _/_/ from a perl script" -- Larry Wall, mangled
From: Frank <chu@ipoline.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 17:18:07 -0500 Organization: InterPacific Online Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: eagle@serv.net Robert Iacullo wrote: > > jmiller wrote: > > > > If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: > > They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) > > They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? > > They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. > -- > > Robert S Iacullo > President-Amiga Users Society Eastside > eagle@serv.net http://www.serv.net/~eagle > TeamAMIGA Mhz means nothing! Even my US.Robotics modem's DSP chip runs at 90mhz and some specialized DSPs run at several times more than that, but can they run my computer?!?! The Exponential PPC chip has only about 1 million transistor count and that is about the same amount of a 486!!! How can you expect it to out run a lowly Pentium 133 with 3 million transistors!!! Plus, a fully configured Pentium200 can be had for under $1500, can you get the same price/performance with a >180mhz< 604e PPC chip computer?! Which costs at least 3 times that amount! Talking about REAL performance, Alpha chip now already runs at 533mhz and out run PPC chip EVEN at the same clock. MY POINT IS STILL THE SAME: "Power" PC chips can eat shit
From: john_zollinger@arkona.com (John Zollinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ZipDrive under Nextstep? Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 23:53:01 GMT Organization: Arkona, LLC Message-ID: <32d18d91.75968216@news.xmission.com> References: <5aqssb$ff8@www.univie.ac.at> a9101322@unet.univie.ac.at () wrote: >Does anyone know if it is possible to run IOmegas ZipDrive under Nextstep? > >If so, how? Provided it's a SCSI one (if its not, you are out of luck), it's a simple as: 1. Assign it a free SCSI id 2. Power down NEXTSTEP and turn off your machine 3. Plug the Zip into your SCSI chain, making sure termination is setup correctly. 4. Power up the machine and log into NEXTSTEP... ...And "it just works". You can now read/write DOS, Macintosh and NEXTSTEP formatted Zip disks. Couldn't be easier. NEXTSTEP works pretty much the same for any SCSI type device. Keep in mind though, that Iomega hasn't released any "tools" software for NEXTSTEP, so you can't do things like read/write protect your Zip disks from NEXTSTEP. You can find more (really good) info at: http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html Cheers, John Zollinger Software Engineering Director Arkona, LLC john_zollinger@arkona.com
From: exfjnzl@rbf.apfh.rqh (Ravi K. Swamy) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: NeXT/Apple - the gaming connection Date: 2 Jan 1997 20:57:49 GMT Organization: Gunsmith Cats Distribution: inet Message-ID: <slrn5co8ad.cin.exfjnzl@c01021-111poe.eos.ncsu.edu> References: <32BA667C.403A@sfbayrun.com> <59f2t1$ohl@youth.yth> <rickeym-2112960024540001@10.0.2.15> <32bc1ce3.1530537@snews2.zippo.com> <01bbf053$9ee3c660$ea4fb7ce@interaccess> <jinx6568-2312960111120001@news.sover.net> <slrn5btng2.18n.jgoerzen@complete.org> <32BF77BC.1278@datadepot.com> <59oq37$q7l@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <59smld$bv5@duke.squonk.net> <59tbt5$6md@news.ycc.yale.edu> <59udsj$1ms@duke.squonk.net> In article <59udsj$1ms@duke.squonk.net>, Garance A Drosehn wrote: >abergman@pantheon.yale.edu (Aaron Bergman) wrote: >> Garance A Drosehn (gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu) wrote: >> : >> : What was the game done by Trilobyte? Was that _Myst_? >> >> Dunno. Myst was done using Hypercard (roughly) on a Mac, however. > >Well, I didn't think it was _Myst_, but I don't know enough about >the gaming-world to remember what games were developed on NeXTSTEP. >I only remember Doom because the guys in the CS department used to >play it on Friday nights (now they play Quake instead, but I doubt >that was developed on NeXTSTEP). After Doom and Quake, the only Parts of Quake were written on NeXTSTEP. I don't know how much, but look at ftp.cdrom.com /.5/idgames/idstuff/quake/qe_dev.gif for a picture of their NeXTSTEP based level editor. >In case people are wondering, these games were not developed using >any NeXTSTEP-specific API's. As I understand it, the companies >just liked NeXTSTEP because the machine didn't crash when they >tripped over bugs during the development phase. I imagine both >games were developed using C++ or perhaps straight C. John Romero, one of the main guys at id software used to have a .plan file that said "To get the entire world running NeXTSTEP" so I think he liked it for more reasons other than that it was stable. Ravi -- Ravi K. Swamy http://www4.ncsu.edu/~rkswamy/www/ rkswamy at eos.ncsu.edu root@genom.com
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PGP binary Date: 7 Jan 1997 00:07:08 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5as43c$ee0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> I'd like to install CryptorBundle on my NS 3.3 Mail.app. I've just gnabbed version 1.3 from the Peak archive. However, it doesn't include PGP (thanks to the FBI etc). The docs say that I can find it "on the archives". Well, I've just spent about an hour chasing around with Archie but havn't found a usable source set yet. One doc file on Peanuts gives a diff needed to make PGP2.62's random.c compile under NeXTSTEP, but I havn't found the sources yet. If anyone has a Intel PGP binary handy that they could send me by NeXTMAIL, that'd save me more fooling around with this. Thanks. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null Date: 6 Jan 1997 17:18:42 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5arc5i$84u@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> References: <5aloae$sr1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <5am7nb$14l@boursy.news.erols.com> <5ame9n$skp@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <E3Jw8C.Htv@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <5ap5a9$k23@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> On Saturday, I posted a response to 2 large SPAMs that were occurring. I posted whois information indicating that he.net serves the domain that was apparently responsible for forwarding the SPAMs. But it appears that he.net wasn't involved (see http://www.ca-probate.com/yuri.htm and news.admin.net-abuse.email for details). Mike Leber of he.net has asked that I post this information so that further complaints won't be directed to he.net but to ibm.net which appears to be the ISP who did nothing to deal with this large SPAM for several days despite many complaints. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: Michael Taylor <mtaylor@aw.sgi.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Games on NeXTstep (Was Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back!) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 19:19:06 -0500 Organization: Alias|Wavefront Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32D1967A.59E2@aw.sgi.com> References: <32BA667C.403A@sfbayrun.com> <59f2t1$ohl@youth.yth> <59oq37$q7l@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5a2g5h$hu7@gaea.titan.org> <32c5d7fe.257162@pbinews.pacbell.net> <32D0A342.3068@neosoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kevin Palmer wrote: > > Jeff Dallacqua wrote: > > > > On 28 Dec 1996 06:53:37 GMT, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com > > wrote: > > > > >For those who don't know, Trilobyte used NeXTstep to create 7th Guest > > >and 11th Hour. Id used NeXTstep to create Doom and Quake. > > > > Weren't the video sequences for 7th Guest(and maybe 11th Hour) > > done with 3DStudio(although I guess this doesn't necessarily mean > > they didn't use NeXTstep for any of it)? > > -- I am almost positive that the images on 7th guest were done in > Alias|Wavefront Power Animator on the SGI. It was a while back when I > read the article. I'm sure that 7th guest was made with 3DStudio. I'm not sure about 11th Hour though. This is the first I've heard of 7th Guest having anything to do with NEXTSTEP. Not that I'm an expert on the subject. Quake on the other hand was definately developed using both NEXTSTEP and Power Animator (on SGI's). I've got a screen capture of a NeXT desktop of a Quake developer from Id Software somewhere. Here it is. To see the level editor under NEXTSTEP try: ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake/qe_dev.gif /\/\ike Dislaimer: My opinions are my own, yada yada -- /\/\ike Taylor | Mail: mtaylor@aw.sgi.com Alias|Wavefront Toronto | Voice: (416) 362-8558 x8740 Developer, API Team =D--' http://reality.sgi.com/mtaylor
From: darin@connectnet1.connectnet.com (Darin Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 7 Jan 1997 00:22:28 GMT Message-ID: <slrn5d35q1.5bc.darin@connectnet1.connectnet.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> >Mhz means nothing! Even my US.Robotics modem's DSP chip runs at 90mhz >and some specialized DSPs run at several times more than that, but can >they run my computer?!?! The Exponential PPC chip has only about 1 >million transistor count and that is about the same amount of a 486!!! >How can you expect it to out run a lowly Pentium 133 with 3 million >transistors!!! Um, while you're right that Mhz is a meaningless statistic, so is number of transistors. The only way to compare cpu's is with meaningful benchmarks (and there are plenty of meaningless ones to stay away from as well). Next someone will start talking about color... >MY POINT IS STILL THE SAME: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Our point is still the same, this is a stupid argument that does nothing but show the world that you don't care to think about things too hard. "Can eat shit" may win arguments on the playground, but in all honesty, I've won more arguments with "is too/is not" repetitions. Big deal, I'm happy with my 486, nice and speedy. -- Darin Johnson darin@connectnet.com
From: rraman@site.gmu.edu (Ravishankar Ramanathan (CSI)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: WTB: NEXTSTEP 3.3 Academic Date: 5 Jan 1997 17:35:06 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <5aoooa$ls7@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am looking for a copy of the NEXTSTEP OS/DEV Academic for NeXT black hardware. Please e-mail me with pricing info (incl. FedEx 2 day shipping.) Thanks -Ravi
From: nervous@system.net (Nervous) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 01:07:59 -0500 Organization: Central Nervous System Distribution: inet Message-ID: <nervous-0601970107590001@ascend25.netrover.com> References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> In article <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no>, lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) wrote: €Robert Iacullo writes: €: jmiller wrote: €: > €: > If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: €: > They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) €: > They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? € €: They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. € € Where can I buy one? € Cheers... Go to http://www.exp.com and place your order. They will be demonstrating the X704 at MacWorld. Or, if you can't get one yet, you can always go for a quad-604e @ 200Mhz UMAX system. (That's four 604e each @ 200Mhz.) What was your Intel at? 200Mhz? Hahahaha... -- GO Mac GO!!!
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 6 Jan 1997 16:55:31 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5araq3$r4g@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: 6e7b3469a45b0f9f0d83a98706255e43 - <199701051705.MAA18791@nerc.com> <jbf-ya023580000601970202220001@news.tiac.net> jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) wrote: > In article <199701051705.MAA18791@nerc.com>, luomat@peak.org wrote: > > > Also: if you are looking to do ... total internet connectivity ... > then use NeXTStep. > > Now really. Failure to respond to the Internet explosion with NS > mods was a NeXT goof. Recall that 4.X is Openstep, and apparently > based on third party ports at that. According to a recent article in the _San Jose Mercury News_, NeXT has been trying to sell its operating system since last summer so that it could concentrate on OPENSTEP/NT and WebObjects. Apparently, the Santa Cruz Operation (SCO) was approached, but no deal resulted. This seems consistent with the prereleases of OPENSTEP/Mach 4.0, the first of which included UI enhancements, but the remainder of which reverted to the NS 3.3 UI. OPENSTEP/Mach lost several capabilities of NS 3.3, so it seems apparent that NeXT has been expending minimal resources on OPENSTEP/Mach as it was deemphasizing this product. So it's not surprising that lack of native Internet connectivity support is included. I expect that to change with the Apple acquisition. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pretty icons? Date: 7 Jan 1997 03:00:20 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970107025800.VAA16642@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <9701062148.AA24816@basil.icce.rug.nl> The difficulty turned out to be that I'd neglected/forgotten to set the read permissions on the files--doing that as was suggested via e-mail by John H|rnkvist--he also mentioned the nifty trick about /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/root.tiff, as did Tom Hageman. If I missed this sort of thing in the FAQ, I'm sorry--if it's not there, it should be added, no? Thanks again to everyone who helped out! William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ZipDrive under Nextstep? Date: 7 Jan 1997 03:19:13 GMT Organization: Cygnus Support Message-ID: <5asfbh$i5f@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <5aqssb$ff8@www.univie.ac.at> Cc: a9101322@unet.univie.ac.at In <5aqssb$ff8@www.univie.ac.at> a9101322@unet.univie.ac.at wrote: > Does anyone know if it is possible to run IOmegas ZipDrive under Nextstep? > > If so, how? > > Guenther > > Yes, I have one. It's literally plug and play. No driver support needed. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com (ex- kzin@email.sjsu.edu) =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Spammers: I charge you for my time, disk, and bandwidth if you post off- topic solicitations for money in the groups I read. $500/post/group.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701061532.KAA08382@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 925f7b7e6aa53036e8fdaf9e7d766557 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 97 10:31:59 -0500 Subject: Re: What is the best Web Browser for 3.2 Black? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 925f7b7e6aa53036e8fdaf9e7d766557 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: vfr750@netcom.com (Will Hartung) Original Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 04:55:23 GMT > Subject says it all, just wondering what it might be, and where I > could get it from . "best" is such a relative term on these groups, I'll point you to OmniWeb ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.1.5/OmniWeb.2.1.5.N.tar.gz which is "best" for me because it is free and wildly supported. It will require the FoundationUserPatch from NeXTanswers, which is linked to my NeXT web page, which I bet you can find, especially if you refer to my .sig ;-) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701061547.KAA08512@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 3fa0e803ac16ee9fa74d9a851a64adb3 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 97 10:47:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null Cc: far@ix.netcom.com References: 3fa0e803ac16ee9fa74d9a851a64adb3 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke) Original Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 17:03:31 GMT > Not in Mail.app, but in the mail-delivery. Put a file '.forward' in > your home dir and enter > '|/somepath/spam-filter' > > ------------ An example of spam-filter Just a note of warning: writing your own mail filter is rather dangerous, there are a lot of issues to consider, file locking, permissions, what if the system crashes before it finishes, etc. Using procmail requires some time spent learning, but the process itself is rather time tested and they have thought about and solved more issues than most people would ever even think of (at least more than I ever would have!) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701061553.KAA08554@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: b78c5b43aac3ae157554d657a64c7e86 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 97 10:53:02 -0500 Subject: Re: bug? hqx decoder of Opener.app using up *all* virtual memory Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com, deniseh@nntp.best.com References: b78c5b43aac3ae157554d657a64c7e86 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: pwalter@mediahaus.de (Piers Uso Walter) Original Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:31:52 GMT > I tried sending this to howardd@swissbank.com (using the suggestion > menu command of Opener.app), but the mail bounced. Denise has probably already responded to you if she has seen this post, but just in case she is uncharacteristically absent, her address is: deniseh@nntp.best.com All hail the Opener-goddess ;-) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701061540.KAA08464@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 2b451147676e8ce217d2d41a33c4e3b4 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 97 10:40:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Changing Object Icons in NeXTSTEP? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 2b451147676e8ce217d2d41a33c4e3b4 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Original Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 10:34:10 +0000 > What is the process for changing icons for apps, documents, > folders, etc... depends: apps: use 'segedit' Say you want to change the icon for "MyApp.app" to be "myTiff.tiff" prompt> cd /path/to/MyApp.app # where you will find the file "MyApp" prompt> segedit MyApp -replace __ICON app appicon.tiff -o MyApp.new prompt> mv MyApp MyApp.original # save the original in case something hosed prompt> mv MyApp.new MyApp Changing the ICONS for DOCUMENTS probably includes the same thing in a different tune, but I don't know how to do it. You could do this process easier with SegHoarker: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/devtools/SegHoarker.1.0.0.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/devtools/SegHoarker.1.0.0.README Changing ICONS for FOLDERS is really simple. Drop a 48x48 tiff (I think that's the right size) in the folder and name it .dir.tiff. Drop another one in as '.opendir.tiff' and that one will be used when you drag something over the folder's icon. There is a mailing list called "next-icon@gun.com" for these tiffs. They also have an archive. You can find some of it here: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/graphics/icons/next-icon@gun.com-1Q95.tar.gz And I believe it is also on the Walnut Creek CD and I know it is on the brand new Big Green 3-CD set . checkout http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat/next/NeXT-CDs.html for more info on the CDs TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
From: George Graves <gmgraves@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 18:52:47 +0000 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32D149F8.6070@earthlink.net> References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se> <5apps0$p4u@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <32d13df1.15751259@news.sover.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lance Togar wrote: > > t21@ix.netcom.com (Stephan Schaem) wrote: > > >In article <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se>, froz@algonet.se (Mats Forssblad) wrote: > >>lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) wrote: > >> > >>>Robert Iacullo writes: > >>>: jmiller wrote: > >>>: > > >>>: > If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: > >>>: > They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) > >>>: > They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? > >> > >>>: They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. > >> > >>> Where can I buy one? > >>> Cheers.. > >> > >>Rick Bergman, VP/Marketing for Exponential Technolog says: > >>"We expect to go from 533 megahertz up to as much as a thousand > >>megahertz or a gigahertz." > >>(http://www.newmedianews.com/110996/lo_exponential.html) > >> > >>By the way, how fast (sorry, how many mhz) is the fastest > >>mainframe/any cpu? > >> > > > > how big is the cache on this 1000mhz PPC? And how fast is the memory > > system of current system... For many things today its not the CPU that > > the problem, but the memory speed. > > > > Stephan > > > And that really is the point. The Exponential stuff is worthless > without cache that can keep up and there is none at a reasonable > price. Eventually, the data needs to got to main RAM - same problem. > All this is so much fodder for the clueless types who equate CPU > clock rates OR types to system speed. True, but there are ways around this problem, ask Silicon Graphics with their new "O2" machines. George Graves
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Greg Lindholm <gsl@netcom.com> Subject: Netscape plug-in for Nextmail? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32D1CA12.50D4@netcom.com> Sender: gsl@netcom7.netcom.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 03:59:14 GMT Has anyone heard of a Netscape Mail plug-in for Nextmail? If so can you tell me where I can get it? TIA
From: "Kevin P. Hannan" <khannan@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 01:34:15 -0500 Organization: AutoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <32D1EE67.4BEC@ibm.net> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <5aigpk$mft@nntp1.best.com> <5amqvj$4kv@gaea.titan.org> <32d2f893.921819456@snews.zippo.com> <5anu1c$j78@news.bctel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott wrote: > > dehoog@bc.mbn.or.jp (John De Hoog) wrote: > >andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: > > >One thing I learned is that most NeXTStep users today apparently do > >not use the Internet from standalone, dialup ISP accounts. For this > >reason, support for dial-on-demand Internet services is still > >inadequate. > > There is a shareware app called the Simple Internet Starter Kit that offers a > GUI for configuring PPP on Nextstep. I used it before switching to a > dedicated T3 Ethernet connection. Also, Openstep 4.0 is supposed to have > better PPP support. > Yes OpenStep 4.0 has PPP built in. It is the same as the shareware versions. It does require some degree of setup, but once you get the chat scripts working everything runs great. Kevin P. Hannan
From: "Eddie Cejvan" <cejvane@post.crc.cra.com.au> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 7 Jan 1997 17:46:49 GMT Organization: CRA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> Frank <chu@ipoline.com> wrote in article <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com>... >The Exponential PPC chip has only about 1 > million transistor count and that is about the same amount of a 486!!! > How can you expect it to out run a lowly Pentium 133 with 3 million > transistors!!! Plus, a fully configured Pentium200 can be had for under > $1500, can you get the same price/performance with a >180mhz< 604e PPC > chip computer?! Which costs at least 3 times that amount! > > MY POINT IS STILL THE SAME: "Power" PC chips can eat shit > My suggestion is that you do some reading on the subject before you reply to Newsgroup posts. My mother used to say: "Better to be quiet and have people suspect your idiocy then to open your mouth a remove their doubt." If you can get your hands on BYTE November 1996 you might understand (depending on your IQ) the differences between CISC and RISC CPUs. Stated within is that a 603e running at 200MHz will outperform a Pentium Pro at the same speed. I will leave you with this thought: Reduced Instruction Set = Less Transistors = Lower Cost. You've just been shut up by Eddie Cejvan
From: tlm@u.washington.edu (Thomas L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bug? hqx decoder of Opener.app using up *all* virtual memory Date: 7 Jan 1997 08:36:38 GMT Organization: Depts. of Physics and Chemistry, Univ. of Washington Message-ID: <5at1um$fok@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <199701061553.KAA08554@nerc.com> Cc: luomat@nerc.com Timothy J Luoma wrote: > Responding To: pwalter@mediahaus.de (Piers Uso Walter) > Original Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:31:52 GMT > > > > I tried sending this to howardd@swissbank.com (using the suggestion > > menu command of Opener.app), but the mail bounced. > > Denise has probably already responded to you if she has seen this > post, but just in case she is uncharacteristically absent, her > address is: > > deniseh@nntp.best.com > > All hail the Opener-goddess ;-) Amen, I say, AaaaaaaaaaaaaaMen! No one in this community is more deserving of praise, not even TJL himself, or the notorious "Lusty Wench" herself :) TLM -- ********** NOTICE CHANGE OF ADDRESS *************** _________________________________________________________________ Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Depts. of Chemistry and Physics 206-721-0754 (home/FAX) University of Washington 206-713-0326 (Work) Seattle, WA 98195 tlm@u.washington.edu Project Coordinator: Undergraduate Computational Engineering and Sciences http://uces.ameslab.gov/ _________________________________________________________________
From: KRIS@KOEHNTOPP.DE (Kristian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hntopp?=) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 7 Jan 1997 07:59:38 GMT Organization: "He wants to fight the dragon, he wants to kill the beast." Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> Frank <chu@ipoline.com> writes: >Mhz means nothing! Even my US.Robotics modem's DSP chip runs at 90mhz >and some specialized DSPs run at several times more than that, but can >they run my computer?!?! The Exponential PPC chip has only about 1 >million transistor count and that is about the same amount of a 486!!! >How can you expect it to out run a lowly Pentium 133 with 3 million >transistors!!! They do it with better design. For example, PPCs do not sacrifice tons of transistors to emulate an outdated and long bygone CPU with 16 bit registers and an obsolete memory addressing model. For example, PPCs do not have to shift operands from register to register because certain instructions require their operands in certain registers. For example, PPCs do not have to access memory as often as Pentiums, because they have a decent number of general purpose registers. All this results in quite impressive performance. The highly respected german c't magazine ("c't - Magazin fuer Computertechnik, Heise publishing, Hannover") has benchmarked old Pentium processors against new MMX pentium processors using specialized, supposedly MMX friendly tasks relating with image processing. They also used special MMX optimized machine code for the MMX processors to make sure the new MMX chips run at optimal performance. Among the field of tested machines they also had a PPC based untuned Apple from the same price range as the Pentium machines tested for comparison. This PPC ran the same tests using normal machine generated native machine code. c't found that MMX can substantially improve the throughput of a Pentium for certain well optimized, very specialized applications. But the PPC was just as fast to substantially faster than the MMX for all cases tested by c't with normal, unoptimized code and without MMX extensions, which are not available for PPC yet. So the conclusion is that MMX fixes some special cases where the Pentium is broken by design, while the PPCs design is generally right. c't also found that the memory interface of the PPC machine was very unoptimized compared to the Pentium PCs tested and that quite impressive acceleration of PPCs would be possible if the PPC board had a similarly effective memory interface as the Pentium processors. This is not a matter of processor design, but addresses board designer issues instead. So another conclusion of the test was that while the PPC was outrunning the Intel machines in the test, it still was not running at full speed due to the comparatively lame memory interface. c't suggested that the PPC people also introduced MMX extensions to the PPC, but merely for marketing reasons: there is no technical need to screw up a nice, expandable and working design for some seldomly used special purpose application. Please note that these tests conducted by c't were using fixed point or integer arithmetics - things that the MMX extensions are supposedly specialized for. If the comparison had been made with FPU using applications, the Intels would have lost even higher due to their notoriously abysmal floating point performance. Please also note that Intels cannot combine MMX applications with FPU applications, because access to the FPU blocks the data path to the MMX extension hardware on the chip. This is true when switching between MMX and FPU within the same application, but it is also true when multitasking between pure MMX and pure FPU applications. The latter can become a real nightmare for schedulers of multitasking operating systems. >Talking about REAL performance, Alpha chip now already runs at 533mhz >and out run PPC chip EVEN at the same clock. The Alpha is a very nice processor, but also a severe case of trading memory for speed. Just compare code sizes of text and data segments for a statically linked GNU emacs on Linux for Intel processors, Linux for PPC and Linux for Alphas. Kristian -- Kristian Koehntopp, Wassilystrasse 30, 24113 Kiel, +49 431 688897 "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." -- Henry Spencer
From: jmiller <jmiller@rogerswave.ca> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can beat shity Petium Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 04:46:52 -0400 Organization: Rogers Communications Ltd. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32D20D7C.C75@rogerswave.ca> References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Lasse Olsen <lolsen@hsr.no> Lasse Olsen wrote: > : They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. > Where can I buy one? > Cheers... The 533Mhz isn't out yet but you can buy a 225Mhz TODAY.
From: suckow@bln.sel.alcatel.de (Ralf Suckow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: music writing programs? Date: 7 Jan 1997 09:58:49 GMT Organization: Alcatel/Bell Distribution: world Message-ID: <5at6oq$dr9@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be> References: <5a1fk7$lr2@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes > On 12/27/96, YoungHoon Kil wrote: > > Try MusicBuilder 1.2: > > > An outstanding programme for generating music, however it doesn't have the > typesetting abilities of Caliope. > Yes, the score editing features of MusicBuilder are too primitive to use it to write scores as the main application. MusicBuilders strength is in generating music from scores (you can import them from MIDI files), but here I think the '030 is to slow to get anything really done. With the '040 it is usable, but only with Intel Pentiums (e.g. 133) performance is no issue anymore. Yours, ------------------------ Ralf.Suckow@bln.sel.alcatel.de | All opinions are mine.
From: spdwell@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT help needed Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 23:21:19 -0800 Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <spdwell-0601972321190001@adnline24077.adnc.com> I have a NeXT Cube with 3.2 in it. I need help telling this machine that in serial port A is a modem. How do I set up PPP? I'm using a 14.4 Practical Peripherals modem and a properly modified cable. Please help, send any information to ..............cward@adnc.com.............cward@adnc.com............cward@adnc.com............cward@adnc.com...................
From: yeh@frmap711.mathp7.jussieu.fr (E.C.Y.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where can I get netscape screenshots? Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 10:47:39 GMT Organization: InterServ News Service Message-ID: <32d22436.7031861@news.spry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As title. True-color preferred. Please e-mail me. Thank you and happy new year. E-C
From: Rainer Frohnhöfer Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: remote apps on Mac Date: 7 Jan 1997 11:52:10 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5atdda$lve@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <199701031229.EAA28450@lists1.best.com> <9701050308.AA00267@nextbox.enteract.com> <jbf-ya023580000601970213310001@news.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) wrote: > The question appears to be whether one can run remote apps > better on NS than on Mac. > No one in the NeXT community posted a positive response and, in > fact, my trials indicated it didn't work. Apparently it depends on mach > rather than TCP/IP messages. > > Does this indiccate that the MacOS has an advantage (gasp ;-))? Nope. Just for fun we ran Mail.app on a NeXTcube in Hamburg and redirected the display to my machine in Würzburg (about 550 km away -- hell, I don't even know how far these places are apart :). Is that WAN enough? -Rainer. -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (finger cip@mathematik for public key ...)
From: Marc Nagy <mnagy@freenet.npiec.on.ca> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 10:40:41 -0500 Organization: Zero Reality BBS Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32D26E79.4D60@freenet.npiec.on.ca> References: <01bbef77$50776810$15818bce@djowens> <851275965mnewsachaney@voicenet.com> <59k1ke$5sr@news.Hawaii.Edu> <32BD3D7E.422C@sfbayrun.com> <32BDB8B6.5741@flash.net> <carol1-2212961724430001@macip-ara-32.apple.com> <5a4re1$qfe@news.bctel.net> <01bbf6ea$87569840$5813acce@chu.ipoline.com> <01bbf85d$f43ce8a0$5d13acce@chu.ipoline.com> <pxpst2-0201971310460001@path01.pathology.pitt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > processors. The PowerPC chip is a generartion ahead of the pentium. The > MacOS even hobbled by nonnative I/O routines can still keep up with the > Pentiums. The PowerPC was designed to have a hefty FPU. It is the role > of programmers to use it. Well, I'm in computer science at university and we use PowerPCs and Codewarrior software for JAVA programming. At home, I use a Pentium and my machine at home does circles around the PowerlessPC's at school as far as compiling time.
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bug? hqx decoder of Opener.app using up *all* virtual memory Date: 7 Jan 1997 17:38:34 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <5au1mq$itg@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <199701061553.KAA08554@nerc.com> <5at1um$fok@nntp1.u.washington.edu> tlm@u.washington.edu (Thomas L. Marchioro II) wrote: > Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > All hail the Opener-goddess ;-) > > Amen, I say, AaaaaaaaaaaaaaMen! > > No one in this community is more deserving of praise, not even TJL > himself, or the notorious "Lusty Wench" herself :) Say, did Denise ever find that mystery dancer she was looking for, after a NeXT Expo rave a few years ago? ``That's very funny, |====================================================== Scotty. Now beam down | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu my clothes.'' |======================================================
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS Dec Quiz - last call ! Date: 7 Jan 1997 17:29:30 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5au15q$i0h@peng.ping.at> Dear NEXTSTEP community, this is the last call for the SSS December quiz on http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/quiz.html If you haven't participated yet, please hurry! Deadline is January 15th. The winners - as always drawn by my nieces - will receive a free HelpViewer or LatinByrd license! Or alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software (including SuperDraw, SuperDebugger, and others). Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: nervous@system.net (Nervous) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 08:09:04 -0500 Organization: Central Nervous System Distribution: inet Message-ID: <nervous-0701970809040001@ascend17.netrover.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> In article <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com>, Frank <chu@ipoline.com> wrote: €Mhz means nothing! Even my US.Robotics modem's DSP chip runs at 90mhz €and some specialized DSPs run at several times more than that, but can €they run my computer?!?! The Exponential PPC chip has only about 1 €million transistor count and that is about the same amount of a 486!!! The 486 is CISC based and the X704 is RISC. The X704 will leave a 200PPro in the dust! €How can you expect it to out run a lowly Pentium 133 with 3 million €transistors!!! Plus, a fully configured Pentium200 can be had for under Transistors have absolutely nothing to do with raw processing speed. €Talking about REAL performance, Alpha chip now already runs at 533mhz €and out run PPC chip EVEN at the same clock. Too bad NT is not being supported on Alpha platforms...or _any_ RISC chip! €MY POINT IS STILL THE SAME: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Not as well as you can shovel it. -- rhapsody: rhap.so.dy \'rap-s*d-e-\ n recitation of selections from epic poetry, to sew, stitch together; a portion of an epic poem adapted for recitation; a highly emotional utterance or literary work: extravagant rapturous discourse, RAPTURE, ECSTASY; the new Macintosh OS.
From: Mark.A.Tarbell@jpl.nasa.gov (Mark Tarbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ZipDrive under Nextstep? Date: 7 Jan 1997 18:11:18 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena CA, USA Message-ID: <5au3k6$mll@starlight.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <5aqssb$ff8@www.univie.ac.at> Cc: a9101322@unet.univie.ac.at In <5aqssb$ff8@www.univie.ac.at> a9101322@unet.univie.ac.at wrote, in part: > Does anyone know if it is possible to run IOmegas ZipDrive under Nextstep? Check out this Iomega-recommended Zip / NeXT FAQ: http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html Mark
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple and dual-OS plan Message-ID: <8CFA1E9.09B8000047.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 97 08:09:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple Plans Dual Operating System, Using Mac With Software From Next 01/07/97 The Wall Street Journal Apple Computer Inc. sought to reassure customers and software developers that the company has no plans to jettison its current operating system as it moves toward a new system based on its recent Next Software Inc. acquisition. At a Macintosh trade show in San Francisco yesterday, Apple said that for the next several years it plans to pursue a "dual operating system" strategy that will offer machines with both its existing Macintosh operating system and its new Next-based system. Company officials would not be more specific about how long the dual-system offer will continue. Ellen Hancock, Apple's chief technology officer, said the new operating system -- code named "Rhapsody" -- will use some pieces of Next's system and others developed in-house. She told a group of Apple customers that while many existing Mac programs will run on the new operating system, software developers writing new programs for Rhapsody will need to use different techniques and tools than they do with the current Macintosh. Even when it begins selling machines with the new operating system, Apple will continue to make available its current operating system, known as System 7, Ms. Hancock said. System 7 should remain available for several years, she said. Industry analysts said Apple's new strategy is designed to make sure the company doesn't lose customers or software developers while it moves toward its new operating system. Some customers and developers had raised concerns the company would abandon its current operating system too quickly as it implements the Next-based system. Ms. Hancock also said that Apple may try to generate more revenue from its large software-engineering staff by charging money for many of the programs it currently gives away, such as Apple's QuickTime animation package. Apple expects to have a beta, or test, version of Rhapsody ready for software developers later this year, Ms. Hancock told the gathering. A customer version of the new software will be ready in 1998, she said. When she was asked whether Apple's software projections are believable, Ms. Hancock said, "I suggest you judge us by our performance." She said that two System 7 updates will be released this year, as the company promised. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Omniweb huge vsize ... ??? Date: 7 Jan 1997 19:18:22 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <5au7hu$3pt$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Greetings, I am experiencing very noticeable slower performance on my P100 when I run OW. The swapfile grows rapidly (with images) and the whole system sometimes gets paralysed to the poit where I have to kill OW (I cannot even quit from OW). Here is what ps gives me: USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND .... antoine 492 63.9 3.3 806M 1.06M ? R 10:47 OmniWeb .... Any clues ? Should I modify my lowat ? btw, I have 31mb of ram. Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: douyang@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Darwin Ouyang) Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E3nG0s.Gyy@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 17:46:04 GMT Distribution: inet References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de>, Kristian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hntopp?= <KRIS@KOEHNTOPP.DE> wrote: >Frank <chu@ipoline.com> writes: >Please also note that Intels cannot combine MMX applications >with FPU applications, because access to the FPU blocks the >data path to the MMX extension hardware on the chip. This is true. Intel chips would be better if they had more registers, and an orthagonal instruction set. :( >The latter can become a real nightmare for schedulers of multitasking >operating systems. This is incorrect. Because the FPU and MMX share registers, the current operating systems do not have to worry about saving and restoring any extra registers during a task switch - thus MMX has no impact on the OS scheduler at all. Darwin Ouyang
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 7 Jan 1997 21:51:32 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <5augh4$q29@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: 6e7b3469a45b0f9f0d83a98706255e43 - <199701051705.MAA18791@nerc.com> <jbf-ya023580000601970202220001@news.tiac.net> I'm a little confused about all these people who are conceding we lack "dial on demand" under NeXTstep, perhaps because I don't know what the Windoze world means by dial on demand. My 1994-vintage SLIP setup, courtesy of Louis Mamakos, is ancestral to the later NeXT freeware SLIP and PPP implementations, both of which were alleged to be much easier to set up than the three-hour hair-pull I went through when I set up my ancient version. (I have no first-hand experience with the PNI SLIP or PPP, because what I have has worked flawlessly for almost three years, and I didn't want to monkey with it.) Anyway, the setup I have now will hang up an unused line after a user-settable interval, and will bring up the SLIP line automatically whenever any app sends outgoing packets, unless I have specifically disabled it when I last brought it down. Unless there has been some weird retrogression, the two more modern packages almost certainly do the same thing. If this isn't "dial on demand", what is? Just wondering.... I like to go down to the pound and pretend +-----------------------------+ that I've found my dog. Then I tell them to | Joshua Burton 847/677-3902 | kill her anyway, because I already gave away | jburton@nwu.edu | her stuff. Dog people have no sense of humor. +-----------------------------+
From: Timothy Stonis <timothy@sirius.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Spice for NeXT Black... Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 14:04:02 -0800 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <32D2C852.4EA5@sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if there is a version of Spice for NeXT? Thanks... _Tim.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701071354.FAA13564@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: c87fb4a8fbe3e855ccf178dd1e60f3de - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 08:54:37 -0500 Subject: Re: ZipDrive under Nextstep? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: c87fb4a8fbe3e855ccf178dd1e60f3de - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: a9101322@unet.univie.ac.at () Original Date: 6 Jan 1997 12:57:47 GMT > Does anyone know if it is possible to run IOmegas ZipDrive under > Nextstep? Yes it is. I've heard people talk about doing so before. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701071356.FAA13702@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 3db7b5e6fef9be4666e195d4b95363dd - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 08:55:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Configure.app ??? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 3db7b5e6fef9be4666e195d4b95363dd - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Yvan Herreros <herreros@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr> Original Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 16:01:19 +0100 Message-ID: 3db7b5e6fef9be4666e195d4b95363dd - > While browsing the FAQ, I have once or twice readen that I > should install the SCSI tape drivers with "Configure.app". My > system doesn't include such an app. Configure.app is indeed for white hardware TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701071402.GAA14728@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 6c044ce78784b209da048671f24352ee - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 09:02:01 -0500 Subject: Re: ZipDrive under Nextstep? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 6c044ce78784b209da048671f24352ee - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: john_zollinger@arkona.com (John Zollinger) Original Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 23:53:01 GMT > Keep in mind though, that Iomega hasn't released any "tools" > software for NEXTSTEP, so you can't do things like read/write > protect your Zip disks from NEXTSTEP. If you are on an Intel machine, someone is working on tools to do just this. Send me an email with the SUBJECT search-peak ziptool for the FTP URLs TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701071405.GAA14873@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 9202ca3cada0c98cb68c2c59f48667db - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 09:04:47 -0500 Subject: Re: PGP binary Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 9202ca3cada0c98cb68c2c59f48667db - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Original Date: 7 Jan 1997 00:07:08 GMT > I'd like to install CryptorBundle on my NS 3.3 Mail.app. I've just > gnabbed version 1.3 from the Peak archive. However, it doesn't > include PGP (thanks to the FBI etc). The docs say that I can find > it "on the archives". Well, I've just spent about an hour chasing > around with Archie but havn't found a usable source set yet. For US and *possibly* Canada http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html Others: http://www.ifi.uio.no/~staalesc/PGP TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701071412.GAA15348@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 69d6b4e915ff9c9594bf143abd1ca7f2 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 09:11:49 -0500 Subject: Re: What happened to SimonSays Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 69d6b4e915ff9c9594bf143abd1ca7f2 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: brian@cadaver.acm.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Brian Glaeske) Original Date: 6 Jan 1997 20:20:51 GMT > Does anyone know what happened to the SimonSays (or SimonSez) > product for the NeXT? > > It was a product that did speech activated macros. I always thought > is was a cool program to show people, but lost it a couple of year > ago because of a disk failure. It is a cool app. You can find the demo on PEAK. Send me an email with the SUBJECT search-peak simonsays for the FTP URLs TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701071409.GAA15157@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: f282e4e095d2a890303b92bc9e77b9bc - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 97 09:09:23 -0500 Subject: Re: Mail.app utility to do Junk Mail -> /dev/null Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: f282e4e095d2a890303b92bc9e77b9bc - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Original Date: 6 Jan 1997 17:18:42 GMT > Mike Leber of he.net has asked that I post this information so > that further complaints won't be directed to he.net but to ibm.net > which appears to be the ISP who did nothing to deal with this large > SPAM for several days despite many complaints. Members of the Spam Prevention mailing list (SPAM-L@eva.dc.LSOFT.COM) have been discussing this, and after a lot of complains, email and phone calls, IBM.net has finally stepped in to do something, but all agree it took them far too long to do the right thing here. TjL ps -- to subscribe to the list, send an email to 'LISTSERV@eva.dc.LSOFT.COM' with this command SUBSCRIBE SPAM-L Your Name and then confirm the response. Interesting list. I thought I hated SPAM til I met some of these people -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bug? hqx decoder of Opener.app using up *all* virtual memory Date: 7 Jan 1997 22:45:43 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-i-56.usc.edu Message-ID: <5aujmn$k4l@usc.edu> References: <199701061553.KAA08554@nerc.com> <5at1um$fok@nntp1.u.washington.edu> <5au1mq$itg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Cc: jburton@nwu.edu In <5au1mq$itg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Joshua W. Burton wrote: > tlm@u.washington.edu (Thomas L. Marchioro II) wrote: > > Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > > > All hail the Opener-goddess ;-) > > > > Amen, I say, AaaaaaaaaaaaaaMen! > > > > No one in this community is more deserving of praise, not even TJL > > himself, or the notorious "Lusty Wench" herself :) > > Say, did Denise ever find that mystery dancer she was looking for, > after a NeXT Expo rave a few years ago? Has Denise responded to this flame yet? 8-) -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 6 Jan 1997 23:15:54 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5as13a$22h@usenet.rpi.edu> References: 6e7b3469a45b0f9f0d83a98706255e43 - <199701051705.MAA18791@nerc.com> Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> wrote: > andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: > > And as for the original article that started this thread, it > > seemed like an obvious troll to me - I'm not sure why anyone > > deigned to respond. > > I'm not sure exactly what is meant by "troll"..... If what was > meant was "looking to find out" that's one thing, "looking to > brag about what MS has" that's another. It's an article posted to get a lot of furor going, where the poster doesn't really care about getting answers for any of the questions presented in it. Or the person says something inflammatory, just so lots of people will get all worked up and waste their time writing long rebuttals to the article. I don't remember the article to say whether I thought it was "a troll" or not, I'm just saying what is meant by that term. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: jacob@dannug.dk (Jacob Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Configure.app ??? Date: 7 Jan 1997 20:43:09 GMT Organization: DanNUG -- Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <5aucgt$v9@jnext.dannug.dk> References: <32D113BF.619D@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr> Cc: herreros@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr In <32D113BF.619D@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr> Yvan Herreros wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to get a 8mm exabyte tape driver working > with my non turbo slab, NS 3.1. > The only answer that I get when using it is "IO error", > even when using fixed/variable block size setting programs. Have you terminated the tape drive ? > While browsing the FAQ, I have once or twice readen that I > should install the SCSI tape drivers with "Configure.app". My > system doesn't include such an app. So my question is, does > this advice only apply for white hardware, or for NS > 3.2 ? You don't need Configure.app on black hardware! > Otherwise, all suggestions about a secret trick needed to get > an exabyte working on a slab (other than the fixed/variable > block size one) are welcome. I've seen SafetyNet.app work with an Exabyte and it was plug'n'play, but other than that I have no suggestions :-( Regards, Jacob -- Jacob Nielsen PGP-keyID: 1F0F3839 Email (NeXT, MIME and SUN) jacob@dannug.dk Maintainer of NEXTSTEP Software Reviews http://www.dannug.dk/jacob & My own home page :-) http://www.dannug.dk/~jacob
From: lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 7 Jan 1997 23:38:21 GMT Organization: UNINETT news service Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5aumpd$dtb@doffen.uninett.no> Darwin Ouyang writes: : In article <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de>, : Kristian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hntopp?= <KRIS@KOEHNTOPP.DE> wrote: : >The latter can become a real nightmare for schedulers of multitasking : >operating systems. : This is incorrect. : Because the FPU and MMX share registers, the current operating systems do : not have to worry about saving and restoring any extra registers during a : task switch - thus MMX has no impact on the OS scheduler at all. However, it has a helluva impact on FPU performance - what's that, 70 to 100 cycles to clear the pipeline after MMX operands? Cheers...
From: deniseh@nntp.best.com (Denise Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bug? hqx decoder of Opener.app using up *all* virtual memory Date: 8 Jan 1997 00:08:15 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <5auohf$77r@nntp1.best.com> References: <199701061553.KAA08554@nerc.com> <5at1um$fok@nntp1.u.washington.edu> <5au1mq$itg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Joshua W. Burton (jburton@nwu.edu) wrote: : tlm@u.washington.edu (Thomas L. Marchioro II) wrote: : > Timothy J Luoma wrote: : > : > > All hail the Opener-goddess ;-) : > : > Amen, I say, AaaaaaaaaaaaaaMen! : > : > No one in this community is more deserving of praise, not even TJL : > himself, or the notorious "Lusty Wench" herself :) Thanks, Tim and Tom! Your checks are in the mail. ;-) I e-mailed Piers about his problem and asked what version of hexbin was used to create the file he is trying to run through Opener. I suspect it is a newer version than the hexbin inside Opener.app, so that there' a backward-compatibility problem. However I have not heard back from him yet. : Say, did Denise ever find that mystery dancer she was looking for, : after a NeXT Expo rave a few years ago? Yikes! I can't believe you still remember that! Well, the answer is no, I never found him. C'est la vie! Denise -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bug? hqx decoder of Opener.app using up *all* virtual memory Date: 8 Jan 1997 01:03:17 GMT Organization: Ames Laboratory Message-ID: <5aurol$60s@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <199701061553.KAA08554@nerc.com> <5at1um$fok@nntp1.u.washington.edu> <5au1mq$itg@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5auohf$77r@nntp1.best.com> Cc: deniseh@nntp.best.com Denise Howard wrote: > Joshua W. Burton (jburton@nwu.edu) wrote: > : tlm@u.washington.edu (Thomas L. Marchioro II) wrote: > : > Timothy J Luoma wrote: > : > > : > > All hail the Opener-goddess ;-) > : > > : > Amen, I say, AaaaaaaaaaaaaaMen! > : > > : > No one in this community is more deserving of praise, not even TJL > : > himself, or the notorious "Lusty Wench" herself :) > > Thanks, Tim and Tom! Your checks are in the mail. ;-) > yeah yeah, I've heard that one before... and from the same source too! > : Say, did Denise ever find that mystery dancer she was looking for, > : after a NeXT Expo rave a few years ago? > > Yikes! I can't believe you still remember that! Well, the answer is no, > I never found him. C'est la vie! Too bad.... but something good came of the search, since that is, indirectly, how we first "met" on the internet. Well.... at least *I* think it's good :) TLM -- ********** NOTICE CHANGE OF ADDRESS *************** Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Depts. of Chemistry and Physics 206-721-0754 (FAX) University of Washington 206-543-8963 (W) Seattle, WA 98195 206-276-4056 (H) tlm@u.washington.edu
From: mad_river@ski.vt.usa (mad_river) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc,alt.binaries.mac.games Subject: >>>>NextStep for Intel ?? Where can I get/buy it??? Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 20:25:08 -0500 Organization: Shore.Net/Eco Software, Inc; (info@shore.net) Message-ID: <mad_river-ya023480000701972025080001@news.shore.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, i'd like to find NextStep/OpenStep compiled to run on Intel/Pentium. does anyone know where i can find it?? warez or legit??? please email gcrofton@shore.net thanks gbc
From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the best Web Browser for 3.2 Black? Date: 8 Jan 1997 01:21:00 GMT Organization: Mlink Internet, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <5ausps$4sq@neon.Mlink.NET> References: <vfr750E3Ir0B.EHC@netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <vfr750E3Ir0B.EHC@netcom.com> On 01/04/97, Will Hartung wrote: > Subject says it all, just wondering what it might be, and where I > could get it from . > > Thanx! > > -- > Will Hartung - vfr750@netcom.com ======================================= Get OmniWeb v.2.5.b2 (current version) http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/2.0/Download.html Cheers, André
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple's Strategy Message-ID: <8CFA3DA.09B8000048.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 97 16:26:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 APPLE'S NEW OS STRATEGY & ROADMAP: THE 5 KEY POINTS MACWORLD/EXPO, SAN FRANCISCO, Jan. 7 The following was issued today by Apple Computer, Inc.: COMPLEMENTARY OS STRATEGY Apple plans to implement an OS strategy that offers complementary product lines moving forward -- Mac OS and Apple's next generation OS, Rhapsody. Mac OS will continue to deliver market leading Internet and multimedia capabilities; Rhapsody will introduce next generation OS technologies and provide a platform for breakthrough applications that leapfrog competitive OS offerings. SMOOTH MIGRATION PATH OFFERS COMPATIBILITY Apple's complementary OS strategy is designed to enable both Mac OS and Rhapsody to share a similar look and feel and provide compatibility with existing Mac OS applications and hardware. This gives customers and software developers a smooth upgrade path to next generation technology and protects their current investment in Mac OS technology. Additionally Rhapsody will support today's Mac OS personal computers, as well as future Mac OS hardware. Customers in each of Apple's markets can migrate to Apple's next generation OS, Rhapsody, at their own speed. Apple anticipates many customers will remain on Mac OS for a number of years and intends to continue to upgrade this track of the OS in regular semiannual upgrades. ACCELERATED DELIVERY OF NEW OPERATING SYSTEM SOFTWARE Apple's complementary OS strategy will allow the Company to quickly deliver new operating system technology to market. Both Mac OS and Rhapsody will be scheduled for regular updates, giving customers access to the latest software from Apple. Apple expects the next generation technology in Rhapsody to come to market quicker because it is not directly tied to the upgrade schedule of Mac OS. This move should allow customers to plan deployment of new operating system technology in advance. BREAKTHROUGH DEVELOPMENT ENVIRONMENT BRINGS NEW APPLICATIONS TO MARKET The integration of NeXT Software's OPENSTEP development environment in Rhapsody will provide software developers, in-house development teams and new media specialists with a market-leading component software environment. This acclaimed development environment is acknowledged to allow small, fast, multimedia rich and Internet-centric applications to be created quicker than on competitive platforms. Apple believes that the advanced technical underpinnings and rapid development environment of Rhapsody will allow developers to create applications that leapfrog those of other 'modern' operating systems. MULTIMEDIA AND INTERNET LEADERSHIP Apple's OS Strategy will allow the Company to continue to lead the market in multimedia innovation and provide new levels of Internet integration. Apple's QuickTime Media Layer (QTML) will be optimized for both Mac OS and Rhapsody moving forward, providing all Apple customers with multimedia leadership through the millennium. QTML is a set of cross-platform technologies that bring rich multimedia content to CD-ROM and the Internet -- allowing developers to create and deliver synchronized graphics, sound, video, text, and music. Apple also plans to carry forward key technologies such as OpenDoc, Meta Content Format (MCF), and easy to use TCP/IP connectivity to maintain the Macintosh as a leading system for Internet access and the delivery and creation of Internet content. By integrating Java -- Sun Microsystems' platform-independent application environment for the Internet and corporate networks -- Apple is committed to make both Mac OS and Rhapsody preeminent development and deployment platforms for Java technology. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Microsoft Backs AppleOS Message-ID: <8CFA3DB.09B800004B.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 97 16:27:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 MICROSOFT REAFFIRMS SUPPORT FOR APPLE'S MACINTOSH PLATFORM Microsoft Corp. has announced the formation of a 100-person unit focused on developing programs for Apple Computer Inc.'s Macintosh operating system, and unveiled a Mac version of Microsoft's Internet-browser software. Although the companies at one time were bitter enemies, Microsoft generates a substantial amount of revenue from software for the Mac platform. Although Microsoft doesn't break down the numbers, analysts estimate Mac software accounts for about 10% to 15% of Microsoft's revenue. "If Macintosh disappears, they lose a big chunk of their business," said Peter Lieu, an analyst with Adams Harkness & Hill Inc. And because the Mac is one of the few viable alternatives to the nearly ubiquitous Windows operating systems, keeping Apple afloat helps Microsoft fend off antitrust challenges to Microsoft's dominant position in the software industry. Apple no longer represents a significant threat to Windows, which runs about 80% of the world's PCs. As early as a year ago, Microsoft launched a quiet but ambitious effort to help small software companies write Internet programs for struggling Apple. The Internet arena is an area Apple has said is crucial to its efforts to save itself. Microsoft is already the leading supplier of software for the Mac; in fact, because of the popularity of Microsoft's Office family of software products, Microsoft usually makes more money on the Mac than Apple. The formation of the unit makes it more likely that Microsoft will support the Macintosh/Next Software hybrid operating system due later this year, said James Staten, an analyst with Dataquest Inc. "This is good news for the Mac market," he said. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple's Roadmap 2/2 Message-ID: <8CFA3DA.09B800004A.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 97 16:26:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 MULTIMEDIA LEADERSHIP Thirdly, Apple's OS Strategy will allow the Company to continue to lead the market in multimedia innovation. Apple intends to optimize its QuickTime Media Layer (QTML) for both Mac OS and Rhapsody moving forward, providing all Apple customers with multimedia leadership through the millennium. Apple also intends to further develop its value added hardware to improve the multimedia capabilities of Macintosh systems, with high performance PowerPC microprocessors and new classes of hardware acceleration technology. SUPERIOR INTERNET INTEGRATION Apple plans to carry forward key technologies such as OpenDoc, Meta Content Format (MCF), and easy to use TCP/IP connectivity to maintain the Macintosh as a leading system for Internet access and the delivery of Internet content. The integration of Java -- Sun Microsystems' platform- independent application environment for the Internet and corporate networks -- will allow the Company to provide market leading Internet capabilities in both Mac OS and Rhapsody. As an integral part of its OS strategy, Apple aims to incorporate Java in both Mac OS and Rhapsody, and today announced Mac OS Run Time for Java. (See separate release). Apple is committed to make both Mac OS and Rhapsody preeminent development and deployment platforms for Java technology. In addition, Apple expects that technology such as NeXT Software's Web Objects will further reinforce the Mac platform's Internet capabilities. ROADMAP SHOWS COMPLEMENTARY APPROACH Apple's OS strategy offers two complementary product lines moving forward - - Mac OS and Rhapsody. Customers in each of Apple's markets can migrate to Apple's next generation OS, Rhapsody, at their own speed. Apple also believes that Apple's new OS strategy will reinvigorate the Company's presence in key market segments, particularly the enterprise market. Apple anticipates many customers will remain on Mac OS for a number of years and intends to continue to upgrade this track of the OS in regular semiannual upgrades. MAC OS ROADMAP Mac OS 7.6, announced today, is the first step in a strategy designed to deliver state-of-the-art operating system functionality on a regular, semiannual basis for both 68k and PowerPC customers. This release integrates a host of new Apple technologies to offer customers best-of-class Internet access, state-of-the-art multimedia, built-in OpenDoc support, enhanced compatibility with DOS and Windows files, and improved productivity and reliability. (See separate release). Three future releases of Mac OS are already slated -- code named Tempo, Allegro, and Sonata. Tempo, targeted for mid 1997, will continue to improve the overall ease of use of the Mac and offer leading Internet integration. Tempo is planned to include a new PowerPC-native multi-threaded Finder. This will allow customers to execute multiple tasks, such as launching applications and copying files, at the same time. Tempo includes a new 3D appearance and other user interface enhancements. In the Internet area, Tempo integrates Cyberdog 2.0, Mac OS Runtime for Java, and personal web sharing, permitting every Mac or Mac compatible to be an Internet web server. Apple will provide details on its Allegro and Sonata releases at a later date. RHAPSODY ROADMAP The roadmap for Apple's next generation OS, Rhapsody, is as follows: DEVELOPER RELEASE Apple plans a developer release of Rhapsody in mid to late 1997 to provide software developers with a robust platform for the creation of next generation applications, incorporating NeXT Software's market-leading OPENSTEP development environment. This release is expected to include key next generation operating system technologies such as preemptive multitasking, protected memory and a modern kernel. The integration of NeXT Software's object-oriented OPENSTEP API and industry-leading component software development tools, will allow software developers to quickly and easily create applications for Rhapsody's first customer release. PREMIER RELEASE The first customer release is planned for delivery within 12 months. The premier release is intended for early adopters of new technology in multiple market segments. Plans include an evolution of the Mac OS appearance, combining the best of Apple and NeXT technology to provide an industry-leading user experience that will be familiar to today's Macintosh customers and exciting to new users. This release is intended to enable new software applications to run in a fully preemptive and protected environment and will have limited compatibility with Mac OS applications. UNIFIED RELEASE Intended as a general software release for Apple's customer base, this release of Rhapsody is expected to offer next generation capabilities introduced in the developer and premier releases, as well as compatibility with existing and future Mac OS applications. Rhapsody is expected to support today's software through a Mac OS compatibility environment which will be a complete native implementation of the Mac OS. This is not a software "emulation" layer, instead Mac OS will be ported to the advanced Rhapsody base. The unified release of Rhapsody is scheduled for shipment in mid 1998. Both Mac OS and Rhapsody will be optimized for PowerPC hardware. Rhapsody is expected to support all currently shipping PowerPC based systems sold by Apple and Apple licensees today. Rhapsody is also expected to support all upcoming products including the PowerPC Platform (also known as CHRP). Apple also intends to continue to develop, sell and support NeXT software products for other platforms such as Pentium, Sparc, and Windows NT. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple's Roadmap 1/2 Message-ID: <8CFA3DA.09B8000049.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 97 16:26:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 APPLE ANNOUNCES FUTURE MACINTOSH OPERATING SYSTEM STRATEGY AND ROADMAP STRATEGY DELIVERS COMPATIBILITY WITH CURRENTLY SHIPPING MAC SYSTEMS AND APPLICATIONS, ACCELERATES DELIVERY OF NEXT-GENERATION SOFTWARE, AND PROVIDES SMOOTH MIGRATION TO NEXT-GENERATION OS MAC OS UPGRADES TO CONTINUE; FIRST 'RHAPSODY' RELEASE SCHEDULED TO SHIP WITHIN12 MONTHS MACWORLD/EXPO, SAN FRANCISCO, Jan. 7 Apple Computer, Inc. (Nasdaq: AAPL) today announced its strategy for the future evolution of the Macintosh operating system software, for Macintosh and Mac OS compatible personal computers. Apple plans to implement a strategy in which the Company will continue to deliver significant and regularly scheduled upgrades to the current Mac OS while accelerating development of a new and advanced operating system. The new operating system is code-named 'Rhapsody' and will be based on the merging of technologies from Apple and NeXT Software, Inc. (Apple announced its intent to acquire NeXT Software on Dec. 20, 1996 -- see press release, Apple Agrees to Acquire NeXT Software Inc.) As well as providing pioneering next generation technology, Rhapsody aims to provide strong backward compatibility for Mac OS software offering current customers a smooth migration path to the new OS. Through this approach, the Company expects to provide customers and developers with a platform for exceptional and cutting-edge applications, while enhancing their current investment in the Mac OS. Apple also believes that the advanced technical underpinnings and rapid development environment of Rhapsody will allow developers to create new applications that leapfrog those of other 'modern' operating systems, such as Windows NT. Additionally, the Company anticipates that the scheduled enhancements to the Mac OS will retain its industry leadership in ease of use and multimedia, while greatly strengthening the software's Internet capabilities. The first release of Rhapsody is expected to be launched to developers in mid to late 1997 and to customers within 12 months. Rhapsody is planned to incorporate features such as preemptive multitasking and protected memory, as well as a modern kernel. It is expected to also include a new Application Programming Interface (API) based on NeXT Software's OPENSTEP environment. In parallel Mac OS continues to evolve -- with a significant upgrade, Mac OS 7.6, announced today. "Apple has laid out an OS strategy that provides customers and software developers with a safe, clear upgrade path to breakthrough next generation computing. With this approach customers can migrate at their own speed to 21st century computing" said Dr. Gilbert F. Amelio, Chairman and CEO, Apple Computer Inc. "Today we also deliver on a commitment made at Macworld Boston in August, by announcing Mac OS 7.6, a robust and valuable update to our current operating system. Together, Mac OS and our next generation OS, Rhapsody, will allow customers and software developers to leverage existing Macintosh applications and provide a platform for a new era of software innovation from Apple and its industry allies". OS STRATEGY PROVIDES CLEAR ADVANTAGES FOR CUSTOMERS AND DEVELOPERS Apple believes that its OS Strategy provides clear differentiation from its system software competitors in four areas. SMOOTH TRANSITION Firstly, Apple's OS strategy allows both Mac OS and Rhapsody to share a similar look and feel and provide compatibility with existing Mac OS applications and hardware--giving customers and software developers a smooth upgrade path to next generation technology. Existing Mac OS software is expected to work within Rhapsody at PowerPC speeds. Additionally it is planned that Rhapsody will support today's currently shipping Mac OS personal computers, as well as future Mac OS hardware. ADVANCED OPERATING SYSTEM Secondly, Rhapsody is expected to provide customers and software developers with a robust, easy to use OS that delivers features such as preemptive multitasking, symmetric multiprocessing, and protected memory, based on a modern kernel. The integration of NeXT Software's OPENSTEP development environment in Rhapsody will provide software developers, in-house development teams, and new media specialists with a market-leading component software environment. This will allow new classes of software to be developed quickly and easily. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: buckley4@mail.idt.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What happened to SimonSays Date: 8 Jan 1997 02:34:38 GMT Organization: IDT Message-ID: <5av13u$90a@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> References: <5armr3$do7@daily-planet.nodak.edu> In-Reply-To: <5armr3$do7@daily-planet.nodak.edu> On 01/06/97, Brian Glaeske wrote: >This will probably get lost in the Apple-NeXT discussion, but... > >Does anyone know what happened to the SimonSays (or SimonSez) product for >the NeXT? > >It was a product that did speech activated macros. I always thought is was >a cool program to show people, but lost it a couple of year ago because of >a disk failure. > >If anyone has any information on it, please send me e-mail. Last I heard (December, '95, that's ninety-five) metrosoft had closed the app at version 1.5.1 due to the disapearing user base. I also had a quote that "The software has been around long enough that most bugs are out. We just don't get any any tech support problems anymore." Now might be the time to ask about redeployment. -- _________________________________________ Paul Buckley 515 W 59th St., Apt. 22K New York, NY 10019 E-mail: buckley4@mail.idt.net Tel/Fax: 212-333-3382 _________________________________________ I remember something about Bill Gates talking about "putting pins in his eyes" before he'd develop for NeXTSTEP. -somewhere on the Net
From: damir@proaxis.com (Damir Smitlener) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 02:45:18 GMT Organization: ProAxis Communications, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> In article <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au>, "Eddie Cejvan" <cejvane@post.crc.cra.com.au> wrote: [...snip...silly comments about CISC-RISC...] >I will leave you with this thought: >Reduced Instruction Set = Less Transistors = Lower Cost. It's a little ironic that after chewing him out you post such an idiotic statement. The biggest transistor-count processors are RISC. Many RISC processors have larger instruction sets than many CISC processors. Thanks to the marketing departments of many CPU vendors, neither term has much meaning anymore; as an example I give you Motorola (one of the PCC Triumvirate) repackaging the 68k as a Coldfire and selling it as an embedded RISC processor. >You've just been shut up by >Eddie Cejvan You really ought to follow your own advice. -- Damir Smitlener damir@proaxis.com
From: edodge@teleport.com (Edward Dodge) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can beat shity Petium Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 22:22:36 -0300 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <edodge-0701972222360001@ip-pdx19-23.teleport.com> References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> <32D20D7C.C75@rogerswave.ca> In article <32D20D7C.C75@rogerswave.ca>, jmiller@rogerswave.ca wrote: > Lasse Olsen wrote: > > : They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. > > Where can I buy one? > > Cheers... > The 533Mhz isn't out yet but you can buy a 225Mhz TODAY. Can buy a 250Mhz today as well, I think. I wonder where the 250Mhz PPro is? -- Edward
From: carol1@apple.com (Andrew Carol) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 22:48:55 -0800 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <carol1-0701972248550001@17.219.103.211> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <judas.0mwa@tomtec.abg.sub.org> In article <judas.0mwa@tomtec.abg.sub.org>, judas@tomtec.abg.sub.org (Th.Huber) wrote: > > RISC code can`t be speed up by more integration onto the chips, only by clocking > the CPU higher and higher. You have it exactly backwards. CISC instruction sets are more complex and require more decode logic. This makes it harder decompose the instruction stream into independant pieces that can be dispatched to seperate execution units. As chip integration increases, more execution units can be added which RISC can take advantage of in a more direct fashion. (There are fewer dependancies between instructions, etc) Take a look at the fastest CISC out there, the Pentium Pro. What does it do? It 'preprocesses' the CISC instruction stream into a simpler, more 'RISC' like, instruction stream which is then executed. How much cheaper/faster would that CPU be if it could be fed the RISC code directly? Show me a CISC chip and I will show you a faster/cheaper RISC chip. This don't make CISC bad, just not better. (I won't even bring up the point that RISC chips have high clocks "Because they can"!) In the end it really doesn't matter. Most code is written in a high level languge and can compile anywhere. Code that is written against a particular CPU will be shortlived. Even a CISC is no promise of long life. Code written against 8086 is _NOT_ very performal on a Pentium today. Sure it runs, but very poorly compared to code written with that CPU in mind. Advice: Write it in a high level language and re-compile as needed. Oh well..... -- Andrew Carol carol1@apple.com I do not speak for Apple. All opinions are my own.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: petrich@netcom.com (Loren Petrich) Subject: RISC vs. CISC? Message-ID: <petrichE3oLqK.9Ln@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <judas.0mwa@tomtec.abg.sub.org> <carol1-0701972248550001@17.219.103.211> Distribution: inet Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:47:08 GMT Sender: petrich@netcom21.netcom.com In article <carol1-0701972248550001@17.219.103.211>, Andrew Carol <carol1@apple.com> wrote: >In article <judas.0mwa@tomtec.abg.sub.org>, judas@tomtec.abg.sub.org >(Th.Huber) wrote: >> RISC code can`t be speed up by more integration onto the chips, only by >clocking >> the CPU higher and higher. >You have it exactly backwards. CISC instruction sets are more complex >and require more decode logic. This makes it harder decompose the >instruction stream into independant pieces that can be dispatched >to seperate execution units. >As chip integration increases, more execution units can be added >which RISC can take advantage of in a more direct fashion. (There >are fewer dependancies between instructions, etc) ... [other praise of RISC deleted...] Actually, RISC and CISC are two ends of a continuum. Canonical features of RISC are: * All instructions are the same length, usually 4 bytes, are aligned to its length. This makes it easier to pipeline instructions, since one knows in advance how big they will be. CISC instruction lengths, OTOH, can vary dramatically. * The only memory accesses are for loading and storing. Since a memory access, especially with a cache miss or two, can take several cycles, it may be desirable to do some other stuff while this operation takes place. That is much more difficult with many CISC instruction sets, since one CISC operation may specify several memory accesses and operations. * There are a large number of registers (32 in the case of the PowerPC). This helps avoid making a lot of memory accesses, since intermediate results can often be stored in some register. A downside is that for a function call (say), there are that many more values to be stored and loaded. * Instruction simplicity makes pipelining and superscalarity easier. RISC chips have proven scalability (consider the varying numbers of different types of instruction-execution units in different PowerPC models); instructions may be arranged to be optimal on one member of the family, but they will still execute on others, even if suboptimally. This property appears to be lacking from VLIW (Very Long Instruction Word), in which each instruction word constains the instructions for several execution units. I've yet to find out the instruction set of the DEC Alpha, so I can't say whether or not it is truly super-RISC, which is what is claimed about it. The PowerPC, though with all these features, has a large number of instructions, and some rather complicated-looking ones; it has numerous bit-manipulation instructions and 3-operand arithmetic and logic instructions, along with possible auto-increment for loads and stores (useful for arrays). These concessions to CISCiness help keep code from getting too big; CISC code does tend to be more compact than equivalent RISC code. Among CISC architectures, the Motorola 680x0 one is perhaps the most RISCish; it does not have a large number of instructions, but it has numerous addressing modes, most of which can be used for any operand. It also has 16 general-purpose registers, which can be used for just about anything (in practice, 8 of them are specialized for addresses and 8 for data). The Intel 80x86 is perhaps the ultimate in CISCiness; it features only 8 general-purpose registers, and some of them are specialized in various ways (an instruction does a certain thing with one of them, rather than with whatever is specified as an operand). The older members of this series had a segmented addressing scheme (all other chips mentioned here have a flat scheme), complete for specialized registers for addressing the segments. This setup is maintained in the newer ones, with the addition of an option for a flat memory space. Interestingly, the Pentium Pro is a RISC chip with a CISC interpreter; the latter is said to occupy a large amount of chip real estate. And it is rumored that its intended successor to the x86 architecture will be some RISC architecture. And interestingly, while Motorola has several diagrams of what each bit of chip real estate is used for in its PowerPC chips, Intel has not done the same for its Pentium or Pentium Pro chips (simply see http://www.mot.com and http://www.intel.com). -- Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh petrich@netcom.com And a fast train My home page: http://www.webcom.com/petrich/home.html Mirrored at: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/pe/petrich/home.html
From: umisef@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Bernd Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 8 Jan 97 04:34:29 GMT Organization: Monash University Distribution: inet Message-ID: <umisef.852698069@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au> References: <01bbef77$50776810$15818bce@djowens> <851275965mnewsachaney@voicenet.com> <59k1ke$5sr@news.hawaii.edu> <32BD3D7E.422C@sfbayrun.com> <32BDB8B6.5741@flash.net> <carol1-2212961724430001@macip-ara-32.apple.com> <5a4re1$qfe@news.bctel.net> <01bbf6ea$87569840$5813acce@chu.ipoline.com> <01bbf85d$f43ce8a0$5d13acce@chu.ipoline.com> <5ankv4$16em$4@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <5ar7t4$6qv@misery.millcomm.com> skappel@intranetsol.com (Steve Kappel) writes: >You will be forgiven for your IBM-centric view. >Try http://endeavor.fujitsu.co.jp/hypertext/fpcrf/e/ap1000.html >which is about the Fujitsu AP1000 that supports up to 1024 >SuperSPARCs. And the best thing about it: You can run linux on it :=))) Bernie
From: KRIS@KOEHNTOPP.DE (Kristian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hntopp?=) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 8 Jan 1997 08:34:20 GMT Organization: "dtb? - entfernt dieses Geschwuer vom Arsche des usenet." (Kresimir Cesljarevic) Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5avm6c$v95@white.koehntopp.de> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de> <E3nG0s.Gyy@novice.uwaterloo.ca> douyang@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Darwin Ouyang) writes: >In article <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de>, >Kristian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hntopp?= <KRIS@KOEHNTOPP.DE> wrote: >>The latter can become a real nightmare for schedulers of multitasking >>operating systems. >This is incorrect. >Because the FPU and MMX share registers, the current operating systems do >not have to worry about saving and restoring any extra registers during a >task switch - thus MMX has no impact on the OS scheduler at all. If your operating system does lazy saving of FPU registers (that is: FPU state is not saved unless another task using the FPU gets scheduled), you have to mark programs using MMX instructions as FPU users as well. The advantage of lazy saving is dimished. Kristian -- Kristian Koehntopp, Wassilystrasse 30, 24113 Kiel, +49 431 688897 "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." -- Henry Spencer
From: ******** <********@********.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 21:32:31 -0800 Organization: ******** Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5aupsh$id5@news.accessus.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <judas.0mwa@tomtec.abg.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Th.Huber wrote: > Why CISC then ? > > CISC code has the option to be executed by future CPUs, which are able to do > more and more of the complex instructions with RISC technics. > (e.g 060 has some of these features) So is RISC. R2000 code is still compatible with R10000, FYI. > Why not RISC ? > > RISC code can`t be speed up by more integration onto the chips, only by clocking > the CPU higher and higher. It is far easier to implement superscalar execution pipelines with RISC instruction set than with CISC instruction set. Most modern RISC processors are 4-way superscalar, while X86 is limited to 3-way superscalar execution with Pentium Pro. We should see 8-way superscalar implemetations of RISC architectures pretty soon, and I believe Alpha21264 will be the first of bunch. > On the long run, we`ll have CPUs that run CISCcode on a RISC CPU, so it`s really > silly not to use CISC today. You have no idea of what you are talking about, so shut up.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: ffiona mosford@newi.ac.uk (ffiona mosford) Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Message-ID: <E3ow90.Gow@exeter.ac.uk> Sender: news@exeter.ac.uk (news admin) Organization: North East Wales Institute References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> <nervous-0601970107590001@ascend25.netrover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Distribution: inet Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 12:34:11 GMT In article <nervous-0601970107590001@ascend25.netrover.com>, nervous@system.net says... > >In article <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no>, lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) wrote: > >€Robert Iacullo writes: >€: jmiller wrote: >€: > >€: > If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: >€: > They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) >€: > They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? >€ >€: They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. >€ >€ Where can I buy one? >€ Cheers... > >Go to > >http://www.exp.com > >and place your order. They will be demonstrating the X704 at MacWorld. > >Or, if you can't get one yet, you can always go for a quad-604e @ 200Mhz >UMAX system. (That's four 604e each @ 200Mhz.) > >What was your Intel at? 200Mhz? Hahahaha... > >-- >GO Mac GO!!!
From: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help: Addding another SCSI 2 Hard Drive to my IBM clone Date: 7 Jan 1997 21:04:23 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <5audon$dc$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> At present I have a an IBM clone Pentium 90 multimedia( 1Gb HD Scsi Fujitsu, 48Mb Ram). I had partitioned it, 600 Mb for next step and 400 Mb for windows 95 and applications. Everything works fine and has worked fine for 2 years. Now I want to (1) add another SCSI hard drive 2.1 Gb Seagate and use this newly added hard disk exclusively for windows and also make this as a boot drive ( i.e. SCSI ID 00) and want to transfer all the windows data ( about 339 Mb) from Fujitsu to it. (2) Use Fujitsu 1GB ( SCSI ID 01) only for next step, i.e. remove the DOS partition without losing the existing next step data. By the way I am using NCR SCSI -2 card which works fine for Next step. If any one has experience in doing the above, I would greatly appreciate their input. Thanks a lot for your assistance and input to avoid pitfalls in modifying my hardware. Thanks a lot for your input. Sincerely , Narendra
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple outlines its plans Message-ID: <8CFB1CA.09B800004E.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 07:38:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Saying It Has a Future, Apple Puts Its Past on the Podium 01/08/97 The New York Times SAN FRANCISCO, Jan. 7 -- Apple Computer invoked its past today as it outlined its plans for a new computer operating system. On the opening day of the Macworld computer conference here, Apple sought to portray itself as an embattled underdog working to regain its role as software innovator. Summoning a metaphor, it ran a clip from the film ''Independence Day'' showing an embattled planet. And invoking a happier past, it reunited the company's two founders, Steven P. Jobs and Stephen Wozniak, for the first time at a company event since 1984. The chairman, Gilbert F. Amelio, also called on an unusual group of movie stars and other celebrities, including the actor Jeff Goldblum and Muhammad Ali. Mr. Amelio and Mr. Jobs -- who rejoined Apple following its $400 million acquisition of his company, Next Software Inc. -- outlined an 18-month development plan in which Apple would keep improving its current operating system while it prepared a new one called Rhapsody. The new operating system, when it is shipped to customers in 1998, will run current Macintosh applications and programs written for the Next operating system, as well as those designed for Sun Microsystems' Java language. Apple said this would permit its customers to retain their existing data and programs, but it acknowledged that the old programs would not be able to take advantage of the features to be added from Next's technology war chest. For Macintosh software to do so, it would have to be rewritten. Apple's executives tried to put the best face on an effort to essentially start from scratch in a frantic race to catch Microsoft. ''We do believe that this year will be our best year in terms of software, '' said Ellen Hancock, Apple's chief technology officer. Apple must now prove to its customers that it can live up to that. The company has begun more than six operating systems in recent years, including joint ventures with I.B.M. like Taligent and Kaleida, without being able to successfully complete a new operating system. Ms. Hancock, a longtime executive at I.B.M. before coming to Apple to work for Mr. Amelio, insisted that the pace of software development had changed under her tenure. She cited a new version of System 7, dubbed 7.6 that will be shipped this month and a follow-on upgrade scheduled for July as evidence that Apple had turned over a new leaf in its software-development efforts. In his keynote speech here, Mr. Amelio declared that despite its recent announcement that it would lose $100 million to $150 million in the quarter that ended on Dec. 27, Apple was still in a strong financial position, with the company's cash position remaining around $1.7 billion. The first quarter ''was about retail sales, not about the fundamentals in the recovery of Apple,'' he told an overflow crowd of more than 2,000 at the San Francisco Marriott. Investors were apparently not impressed by the late afternoon headlines from the Macworld show. Shares of Apple fell 37.5 cents, to $17.50, in heavy Nasdaq trading. Apple's recent troubles were not reflected by the size of crowd at Macworld. Organizers said they expect 75,000 to 80,000 people to attend the entire show, more than in 1996, when it drew upward of 65,000. And despite the presence of a cast of celebrities like the actor and tap dancer Gregory Hines, the comedian Sinbad and the musician Peter Gabriel -- all of whom endorsed Apple's technology -- it was Mr. Jobs who stole the show today as he sought to make the case why Apple's customers would benefit from the addition of Next technology. He said the success or failure of the new project would depend on the ability of Apple to rally software developers to write creative programs in the tradition of Aldus Corporation's Pagemaker, which helped create desktop publishing. ''You don't find as many cars in the parking lots of large corporations as you do of small software developers,'' he said, alluding to the creative energy carried by small start-up companies. In a pointed demonstration, Mr. Jobs also showed Next's software running five small movie clips simultaneously. That feature was a favorite of Jean Louis-Gassee, another former Apple executive, who founded Be Inc., and who negotiated unsuccessfully with Apple to sell them his operating system last year. In uncharacteristic fashion, Mr. Jobs conceded that his own vision had not always been 20-20. Sipping spring water, he told his audience that during his legendary visit to Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center in the late 1970's, where he first saw the technology that he commercialized in the Macintosh, he had missed some fundamental components. Mr. Jobs said he had been ''blinded'' by Xerox's graphical user interface and had overlooked both the company's Smalltalk programming language and its powerful office network. ''If I'd only stayed another 20 minutes,'' Mr. Jobs said today. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple's "Counterattack" Message-ID: <8CFB1CA.09B800004F.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 07:38:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Shining a Sour Apple; Promises and Old Stars Dispel the Gloom for a Record Macworld Crowd 01/08/97 The Washington Post Think of those millions of Windows computers spreading across the planet as the slimy alien ships of the film "Independence Day." Now think of Macintosh computers as the human race, about to strike back. You've got the theme of this year's Macworld, a giant convocation of fans of the beloved, embattled Macintosh computers made by Apple Computer Inc. "Just when everything seems the darkest . . . the counterattack," Apple Chairman Gil Amelio told his many devoted but discouraged customers in a speech today. He pledged to lead the company into the next century with peerless technology, on the heels of Apple's purchase last month of Next Software Inc. As is typical of Apple's legendarily loyal following, the crowd appeared placated by Amelio's assurances -- at least for the moment. Spirits were buoyed by the appearance at the show of Apple co-founders Steve Jobs (recently rehired as an adviser to Amelio) and Steve Wozniak, actor Jeff Goldblum (an "Independence Day" star who uses an Apple PowerBook computer to defeat the aliens) and singer Peter Gabriel (who uses the Mac in music). On hand as well were a half-dozen high-tech executives who came to lend their support publicly, such as Netscape Corp. chief executive James Barksdale and Sun Microsystems Inc. chief technology officer Eric Schmidt. Apple is developing a new operating system -- the programming that drives a computer -- to try to recapture some of its lost business. It said today that the new software that Apple will deliver to developers by mid-year incorporating the technology of Next Software will work with more than 85 percent of existing Macintosh applications and all Apple computers that are on store shelves now. Last month, in the kind of daring business move that has given the Cupertino, Calif., company its uncommon reputation, Apple bought Next for $400 million, hired Jobs and decided to merge the two software systems. Apple gave up last year on developing its own long-promised operating system, called Copland. Today's existing operating system, a six-year-old program called System 7, will continue to be updated as the Next-Mac technology, now dubbed Rhapsody, is built. Ellen Hancock, Apple chief technology officer, said the company would support System 7 for "five to 10 years," far longer than many Apple fans had feared. Apple's road map for the new OS also includes upgrades for System 7 twice this year -- including version 7.6 released today -- and twice next year. A consumer version of Rhapsody will be available by mid-1998. Both systems will be able to run on Apple machines at the same time; programs will be able to use either system in somewhat the same way that 16- bit Windows programs run under Windows 95. Hancock and Amelio said this strategy of a gradual shift and continuous compatibility will protect Mac users' current investment and eliminate uncertainty for future customers. This year's expo, which is drawing a record 80,000 people, was to have been an upbeat time for Apple and its customers, coming on the heels of Jobs's return, the acquisition of Next and a welcomed fourth-quarter profit. Apple followers have been waiting patiently for several years while the company, which bills itself as the maker of computers "for the rest of us," has stumbled. Ever since its fairy tale birth 20 years ago in a Silicon Valley garage, Apple has been a fascinating business world case study -- of both achievement and reversal. After a brilliant ascent in the 1980s, full of breakthroughs in the look and feel of personal computing, Apple in the 1990s pursued various dead ends going after cool technology to preserve its status as an innovative trendsetter. Many people ascribe Apple's underdog status to its failure to share its basic technology -- until last year, no Macintosh clones were allowed. Anyone wanting a Mac had to come to Apple. Now, while several licensees are finally churning out cost-competitive Apple clones, some analysts see their sales as stealing from Apple rather than from Windows computer makers. Mmid all the uncertainty, Apple is still a $10 billion-a-year company, No. 114 on the Fortune 500 and the nation's third-largest PC maker. Consumers continue to buy the Apple brand by the millions, and hundreds of software firms -- especially Microsoft, the biggest maker of Mac software -- customize their products for it. Apple still dominates several computer markets, including graphics and publishing. It has sold more than 26 million of its mainstay model, the Macintosh, the computer that starts up with a smiling face on its screen, since its introduction in 1984, and it expects to sell 4 million more this year. An astonishingly fast 500-megaherz Macintosh will be introduced this year, Apple said today, doubling today's PC speeds, even among IBM-compatibles. "I understand the skeptics," Hancock told reporters before Amelio's speech. "I just suggest you watch how we execute -- and we are executing." -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: nervous@system.net (Nervous) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can beat shity Petium Date: 8 Jan 1997 14:10:17 GMT Organization: Central Nervous System Distribution: inet Message-ID: <nervous-0801970910500001@ascend3.netrover.com> References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> <32D20D7C.C75@rogerswave.ca> <edodge-0701972222360001@ip-pdx19-23.teleport.com> In article <edodge-0701972222360001@ip-pdx19-23.teleport.com>, edodge@teleport.com (Edward Dodge) wrote: €In article <32D20D7C.C75@rogerswave.ca>, jmiller@rogerswave.ca wrote: € €> Lasse Olsen wrote: €> > : They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. €> > Where can I buy one? €> > Cheers... €> The 533Mhz isn't out yet but you can buy a 225Mhz TODAY. € € €Can buy a 250Mhz today as well, I think. I wonder where the 250Mhz PPro is? You can get a 300Mhz 603e as well. Even multiprocessor 604e-based computers. -- rhapsody: rhap.so.dy \'rap-s*d-e-\ n recitation of selections from epic poetry; a highly emotional utterance or literary work; RAPTURE, ECSTASY; the new Macintosh OS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: frank@OneVision.de (Frank Pohl) Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Message-ID: <E3ou6L.45H@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:49:33 GMT In comp.sys.next.software article <E31r2C.3qB@byron.net4.io.org> Ambrose Li wrote: - snip - > According to the PDF specs, PDF is designed to be an editable format > (even with a revision history feature). However, I have no idea what > program (if any) can edit PDF files like that. - snip - try digiscipt fpr PDF-, PS- and EPS-editing Book (engl.) with CD (but only with demo-license for the software): DigiScript edits digital manuscripts), Springer-Verlag, Berlin, ISBN 3-540-61643-8, 390 pp. 500 figs. in color frank
From: mandtbac@news.abo.fi (Mats Andtbacka) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: 8 Jan 1997 14:12:52 GMT Organization: Unorganized Usenet Postings UnInc. Distribution: comp Message-ID: <5b0a14$ke8@josie.abo.fi> References: <01bbf85d$f43ce8a0$5d13acce@chu.ipoline.com> <pxpst2-0201971310460001@path01.pathology.pitt.edu> <32D26E79.4D60@freenet.npiec.on.ca> (followups severely trimmed) Marc Nagy, in <32D26E79.4D60@freenet.npiec.on.ca>: >Well, I'm in computer science at university and we use PowerPCs and >Codewarrior software for JAVA programming. >At home, I use a Pentium and my machine at home does circles around the >PowerlessPC's at school as far as compiling time. you're in CS, and you don't see the fallacy of that argument? for all you've told us here, might be the PPC's compiler spends time trying to optimize its output while the pentium counterpart maybe doesn't. what about *run* times? -- "...Everybody got this broken feeling like their father or their dog just died..." - Leonard Cohen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: pwalter@mediahaus.de (Piers Uso Walter) Subject: Re: remote apps on Mac Message-ID: <E3p161.743@mediahaus.de> Sender: news@mediahaus.de (News System) Organization: Mediahaus Stroebel in Duesseldorf (Germany) References: <jbf-ya023580000601970213310001@news.tiac.net> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:20:25 GMT In article <jbf-ya023580000601970213310001@news.tiac.net> jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) writes: > The question appears to be whether one can run remote apps > better on NS than on Mac. > > A while ago I asked for info on whether one could really run > NS apps over a wide area net (ie, outside the subnet the requesting > machine is on). > > No one in the NeXT community posted a positive response and, in > fact, my trials indicated it didn't work. Apparently it depends on mach > rather than TCP/IP messages. Of course you can "NXHost" NEXTSTEP apps over the Internet. Just telnet to the remote machine, and start the app with the correct NXHost parameter. Example command: /NextApps/Mail.app/Mail -NXHost myhost.mydomain & Whether this works acceptable for you depends heavily on your network throughput (as I understand it, the remote app sends the DPS PostScript code over the network to your local WindowServer, and your local WindowServer sends back all Events [mouse, keyboard, etc.] to the remote app). If you have a congested internet connection, you won't be happy with the performance, but apart from this there is no reason for "NXHosting" not to work over even the slowest 2400 bps modem connections. > > Does this indiccate that the MacOS has an advantage (gasp ;-))? > > Barney I don't know about the performance of Mac remote execution mechanisms in comparison to NEXTSTEP's NXHost mechanism. Piers Uso Walter ilink GmbH Piers_Walter@ilink.de
From: Jelske.Kloppenburg@gmd.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Showstopper bug in Quantrix? Date: 8 Jan 1997 15:56:28 GMT Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany Message-ID: <5b0g3c$iis@omega.gmd.de> References: <E3GJyH.216@flop.schwaben.de> <5akpdk$2r4@news.istar.ca> <5ala8f$fke@news3.digex.net> <E3HsJw.17q@flop.schwaben.de> In-Reply-To: <E3HsJw.17q@flop.schwaben.de> On 01/04/97, Holger Hoffstaette wrote: >5. Remove the 3D folder. > You don't need to remove the 3D folder, just give it a longer name. (e.g. 3DD). -- Jelske Kloppenburg, +49 2241 14-2433, <Jelske.Kloppenburg@gmd.de> GMD - German National Research Center for Information Technology "Don't kill the Winners!" Dennis Tsichritzis
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: MacStep Help System Date: 8 Jan 1997 16:23:25 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5b0hlt$lj7$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> I don't know if this is a new idea, but... what about using a Workspace-wide Digital Librarian type Library as the repository for both the System and Application Help (as well as miscellaneous cuttings and clippings). This Bookshelf could be accessed directly from the Librarian app, and specific sections/items could be mapped to a specific help-request event (the "normal" context sensitive help). I really enjoy Digital Librarian, and the "old" NeXT help system (the rich-text based hypertext), and would LOVE to see the Macintosh style balloon help added to the application development environment (thats already done indirectly, by copying the Windows copy of the Macintosh balloon help). Later on, some of the cool intelligent agents I've heard Mac people talk about might be integrated with the Librarian tool, as well as search/pattern recognition for things besides text... The Librarian itself could include a low-end OODBMS, with a published API allowing more robust third party replacements... Thoughts? Regards, Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net) #include <std.disclaimer>
Message-ID: <32D3FF71.67E6@nmaa.org> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 12:11:29 -0800 From: Daniel Fahey <dansources@nmaa.org> Organization: DanSources Technical Services Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NextStep Developers NEEDED Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear NextStep Developers We are seeking a bunch of Nextstep, EOF, Objective-C Developers for the monster program in Northern Virginia. Please contact us (301-217-0425)if you are interested. This program will have a lot CORBA exposure to connect with the Legacy. You would be working with the CORBA Developers and get a chance to learn CORBA.. Happy New Year Sincerely, Dan Fahey
From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: music writing programs? Date: 8 Jan 1997 17:35:21 GMT Organization: GENIFI Message-ID: <5b0lsp$77l$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> References: <5at6oq$dr9@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be> There was also an App named I think Max which was made by the French Institute & laboratory Ircam. It could used a special card which used 4 DSP named Ariel. The second App is the musik kit made by the CCRMA.
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Summary of Apple's Plans Message-ID: <8CFB1DC.09B8000050.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 07:56:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Exclusive: Apple's OS Plan Unveiled First Concrete Details of the New Mac OS Strategy PR Newswire SAN FRANCISCO -- At the Macworld Expo, Apple will finally unveil its new Mac Operating System strategy based on the December 20 acquisition of Next, Inc., and its NextStep/OpenStep OS. PARALLEL OSS Apple will develop and ship both the current Mac OS (System 7) and the new Mac OS 8 in parallel. Apple will deliver four more releases of System 7: System 7.6, code-named Harmony, is a minor upgrade to the current System 7.5 and will ship by the end of this month. In July, Apple plans to ship Tempo, which will probably be called System 7.7. That OS will include the first fully PowerPC-native Finder, the Java Virtual Machine for Macintosh to run Java programs, support for multithreading in the Finder, and a more 3-D-looking interface. In early 1998, Apple will ship the Allegra update to System 7, probably calling it System 7.8. And in mid-1998, Apple expects to release the Sonata update to System 7, probably calling it System 7.9 Meanwhile, Apple will also be developing the Next-based Mac OS, which has the code name Rhapsody. Apple expects to offer developers the first version of Rhapsody in the third quarter of this year, with the first general release to the public around January 1998, and the first release that is Mac-program compatible in mid- toeps the public. THE GAME PLAN FOR THE NEXT OS Apple plans on developing a compatibility box for the Next-based OS that will let it run most System 7 programs. The so-called Blue Box is not hardware but a Window within the OS in which any System 7 program that doesn't communicate directly with the hardware should run. The programs would include system extensions and control panels, but not drivers and some utilities that do work directly with the hardware. This level of compatibility is more than was planned for Apple's original Mac OS 8 effort, known as Copland. That OS would not have run extensions and control panels. The Blue Box will be bug-for-bug compatible with System 7, so programs patched to work around bugs in the current OS will not need to be modified to run in the Blue Box compatibility window. That also means that technologies such as QuickDraw 3D, QuickTime, OpenDoc, QuickDraw GX, and the DayStar multiprocessing API will be supported in the Blue Box environment. The Blue Box will not be a Mac emulator but the actual System 7 OS running on the new Mac OS microkernel, the part of the OS that manages the hardware and basic system operations. But the new Mac OS is the Yellow Box, or in other words, the Mac OS 8 to be based on the recently acquired NextStep OS's OpenStep version. Unlike Copland, Yellow Box will be fully preemptive, multithreaded, and have full memory protection. This means that programs can work in parallel without causing each other to crash if something goes wrong. It also means that users should be able to run several tasks in parallel, such as faxing while printing, or doing a database sort while reading e-mail. Under the Copland plan that Apple killed in August, only some parts of Mac OS 8 would have these capabilities. Rhapsody's Yellow Box will also support fully symmetrical multiprocessing, in which any available CPU can run any program or program thread. System 7's multiprocessing architecture reserves one CPU as the traffic cop, which divides the tasks of only programs specifically written for multiprocessing among the available CPUs. The primary CPU is less available for task sharing because of its role as traffic cop. Apple plans to rework the NextStep OS's interface so it is Mac-like. While Apple will adopt some NextStep conventions, the company is convinced that the Mac OS's human interface is the best available and wants to ensure that this approach is maintained. Within the Next-based OS, Apple will hide the remnants of its Unix command-line interface. Like the abortive Copland effort, the Next-based Mac OS, in the Yellow Box window, will support multiple looks. Thus, you will be able to customize the interface's visual appearance and how some of its features operate, such as preventing network access for some users. Programs running in the Blue Box will be able to share some data with programs running in the Yellow Box, and vice versa. Programs in the two environments can share data via Apple events (Apple's OS-based messaging technology) and via copy and paste. However, direct interapplication communications probably won't be allowed, so the two environments can't cause each other to crash if something goes wrong in one of the boxes. Not yet clear is how users and programs will be able to deal with files created by programs running in the two environments. While the hope is to let both Yellow Box and Blue Box programs access each other's drives and folders, it is too early in the Rhapsody development effort for Apple to know whether, or how, it can accomplish that goal, at least in the 1998 releases. SYSTEM HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY Under Apple's new OS plan, Rhapsody will work on all currently shipping PowerPC-based Macs from Apple and the licensed Apple clone makers (DayStar Digital, Motorola Computer Group, Power Computing, Umax Computer, and, in Japan, Pioneer Electronics) and their sublicensees. Apple has also committed to supporting all future Macs, including systems based on the Common Hardware Reference Platform architecture developed by IBM, Motorola. Apple says the CHRP design should become available to licensees later this year and will spur the interest of even more Mac clone makers. Apple is exploring support for previous Power Macs, such as those using the NuBus peripheral bus, but is making no commitments at this time. Apple will continue to support and sell the Intel x86 and Sun Sparc versions of the NextStep OS, but its main focus will be on the Macintosh development. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: douyang@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Darwin Ouyang) Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E3p432.J9E@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:23:26 GMT Distribution: inet References: <5aumpd$dtb@doffen.uninett.no> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5aumpd$dtb@doffen.uninett.no>, Lasse Olsen <lolsen@hsr.no> wrote: >Darwin Ouyang writes: >: In article <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de>, >: Kristian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hntopp?= <KRIS@KOEHNTOPP.DE> wrote: > >: >The latter can become a real nightmare for schedulers of multitasking >: >operating systems. > >: This is incorrect. > >: Because the FPU and MMX share registers, the current operating systems do >: not have to worry about saving and restoring any extra registers during a >: task switch - thus MMX has no impact on the OS scheduler at all. > > However, it has a helluva impact on FPU performance - what's > that, 70 to 100 cycles to clear the pipeline after MMX operands? Ya. I totally agree - MMX+FPU instructions together are gonna *kill* performance. But the statement was that MMX would be a "real nightmare" for OS task schedulers, which is not true. Besides, a task switch already takes an eternity in terms of processor time. ~20 usec. (?) Whats another 100 cycles to the OS scheduler. :) 0.4 usec? Darwin Ouyang
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu (Coffee) Subject: where to get Sonata font? Message-ID: <E3pD3E.JGA@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:38:02 GMT Adobe says they don't have it. Does anyone know where I can order the Sonata font for a NeXTStation? Thank you very much in advance, bryce -- ()-() Bryce B. Sady NeXT mail Welcome (o o) http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/bbsady /\o/\
From: bff@icarus (Brendan Forsyth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Recognizing Filename extensions... Date: 8 Jan 1997 19:25:25 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. +1.303.296.8202 Denver Colorado Message-ID: <5b0sb5$g88@news-2.csn.net> How do I get NS to recognize filename extensions other than those already registered? I want .pl (perl) to be opened by Emacs.app rather then Edit.app. I placed the following entry in my .NeXT/suffixes3_1.i386.wmd file: pl = (/LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs, plfile); But it doesn't work. It also appears that this file gets overwritten at some point in time. I'd like the same functionality for .gz files too. Thanks, brendan
From: t21@ix.netcom.com (Stephan Schaem) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 12:27:02 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5b0vhc$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de> In article <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de>, KRIS@KOEHNTOPP.DE (Kristian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hntopp?=) wrote: >Frank <chu@ipoline.com> writes: >>Mhz means nothing! Even my US.Robotics modem's DSP chip runs at 90mhz >>and some specialized DSPs run at several times more than that, but can >>they run my computer?!?! The Exponential PPC chip has only about 1 >>million transistor count and that is about the same amount of a 486!!! >>How can you expect it to out run a lowly Pentium 133 with 3 million >>transistors!!! > >They do it with better design. For example, PPCs do not >sacrifice tons of transistors to emulate an outdated and long >bygone CPU with 16 bit registers and an obsolete memory >addressing model. For example, PPCs do not have to shift >operands from register to register because certain instructions >require their operands in certain registers. For example, PPCs >do not have to access memory as often as Pentiums, because they >have a decent number of general purpose registers. > Having less register is not that bad, simply because the data cache will be used as extending them. If you load a variable in a register to use it, or on cisc indirecly adresse it the result can be the same. And all the 16bit shit can be forgoten at a programer level... >All this results in quite impressive performance. The highly I dont think you get even 2x the performance from what you outlined. bigger L1 & L2 cache, and better memory system make a bigger speed diference in the end. >respected german c't magazine ("c't - Magazin fuer >Computertechnik, Heise publishing, Hannover") has benchmarked >old Pentium processors against new MMX pentium processors using >specialized, supposedly MMX friendly tasks relating with image >processing. They also used special MMX optimized machine code >for the MMX processors to make sure the new MMX chips run at >optimal performance. > >Among the field of tested machines they also had a PPC based >untuned Apple from the same price range as the Pentium machines >tested for comparison. This PPC ran the same tests using normal >machine generated native machine code. c't found that MMX can >substantially improve the throughput of a Pentium for certain >well optimized, very specialized applications. But the PPC was >just as fast to substantially faster than the MMX for all cases >tested by c't with normal, unoptimized code and without MMX >extensions, which are not available for PPC yet. So the >conclusion is that MMX fixes some special cases where the >Pentium is broken by design, while the PPCs design is generally >right. > Not broken... MMX is for 'integer' work, and the x86 is not that horrible for integer work... what MMX do is work with data array, and I dont think any CPU untill very recently offer this. can a PPC multiply 8 value and clip each individual result in 1 cycle? >c't also found that the memory interface of the PPC machine was >very unoptimized compared to the Pentium PCs tested and that >quite impressive acceleration of PPCs would be possible if the >PPC board had a similarly effective memory interface as the >Pentium processors. This is not a matter of processor design, >but addresses board designer issues instead. So another >conclusion of the test was that while the PPC was outrunning >the Intel machines in the test, it still was not running at >full speed due to the comparatively lame memory interface. > Everyone knows Mac/Apple are terrible at making computer... >c't suggested that the PPC people also introduced MMX >extensions to the PPC, but merely for marketing reasons: there >is no technical need to screw up a nice, expandable and working >design for some seldomly used special purpose application. > Wonder why they included an FPU in there.... Consider the MMX stuff as DPU (Data processing unit). I would suggest tho that if PPC add on on chip DPU that they dont follow the MMX design. >Please note that these tests conducted by c't were using fixed >point or integer arithmetics - things that the MMX extensions >are supposedly specialized for. If the comparison had been made >with FPU using applications, the Intels would have lost even >higher due to their notoriously abysmal floating point >performance. > MMX are used mainly for precessing the data, I dont even think you can create a loop with mmx instructions. >Please also note that Intels cannot combine MMX applications >with FPU applications, because access to the FPU blocks the >data path to the MMX extension hardware on the chip. This is >true when switching between MMX and FPU within the same >application, but it is also true when multitasking between pure >MMX and pure FPU applications. The latter can become a real >nightmare for schedulers of multitasking operating systems. > The MMX instruction set use the FPU registers, so old OS wont break running x86 binary with MMX instruction. Scheduler actually dont care that you have an MMX then one with the FPU ... Also, usually you want to process block of data with the mmx instruction and you can almost alway find a way to not interleave FPU and mmx instruction. >>Talking about REAL performance, Alpha chip now already runs at 533mhz >>and out run PPC chip EVEN at the same clock. > >The Alpha is a very nice processor, but also a severe case of >trading memory for speed. Just compare code sizes of text and >data segments for a statically linked GNU emacs on Linux for >Intel processors, Linux for PPC and Linux for Alphas. > I did that a while back. the HP pa was the best of the risc bunch in code size. The overall best tho was handcoded 68020 in size & register usage, and the latest sas was the worse. GCC produced average x86 code. My personal felling: If motorola had put as much effort in a 68070 as intel did with their Ppro we probably would have had something totaly amazing. Stephan
From: t21@ix.netcom.com (Stephan Schaem) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 12:39:36 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5b108u$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <judas.0mwa@tomtec.abg.sub.org> <5aupsh$id5@news.accessus.net> In article <5aupsh$id5@news.accessus.net>, ******** <********@********.com> wrote: >Th.Huber wrote: > >> Why CISC then ? >> >> CISC code has the option to be executed by future CPUs, which are able to do >> more and more of the complex instructions with RISC technics. >> (e.g 060 has some of these features) > > So is RISC. R2000 code is still compatible with R10000, FYI. > >> Why not RISC ? >> >> RISC code can`t be speed up by more integration onto the chips, only by > clocking >> the CPU higher and higher. > > It is far easier to implement superscalar execution pipelines with RISC > instruction set than with CISC instruction set. Most modern RISC processors > are > 4-way superscalar, while X86 is limited to 3-way superscalar execution with > Pentium Pro. We should see 8-way superscalar implemetations of RISC > architectures > pretty soon, and I believe Alpha21264 will be the first of bunch. > >> On the long run, we`ll have CPUs that run CISCcode on a RISC CPU, so it`s > really >> silly not to use CISC today. > > You have no idea of what you are talking about, so shut up. I dont agree with you rude posting.... currently risc are not very effiecient at coding instructions and in turn do less per byte. I agree that fixed size instruction is the way to go, but not having simple instructions. Risc in its current implementation will have to die out if we want more performance per instruction fetch and per cached bytes. Stephan
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple Personal WebSharing Message-ID: <8CF9267.09B8000040.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 10:15:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 APPLE INTRODUCES FINAL VERSION OF PERSONAL WEB SHARING Apple Computer today announced the final version of Personal Web Sharing, technology licensed from Maxum Development. Facilitating shared information across an intranet, Personal Web Sharing uses Internet protocols, which make it possible for an individual on a Macintosh or Mac OS compatible to publish information to an intranet, as well as share information with other users who have a web browser on platforms such as Windows NT, Windows 95, Windows 3.X, UNIX, or OS/2. Personal Web Sharing is scheduled to be released by the end of January 1997 and will be the first fully-supported product sold via Claris Corporation's Electronic Software Distribution website at: http://www.claris.com. Pricing for the product will be U.S. $25.00. Bundled with Personal Web Sharing will be Claris Home Page Lite, a tool for fast and easy content creation. For more information see Apple's website at: http://applenet.apple.com/. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ClarisWorks 4.0/Internet Message-ID: <8CF9266.09B800003E.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 10:14:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Claris Announces ClarisWorks 4.0 - Internet Edition Claris Corporation has announced ClarisWorks 4.0 - Internet Edition, a special bundle teaming ClarisWorks 4.0, the easy and reliable office productivity suite, with software solutions for accessing the Internet, and Claris Home Page 2.0, the essential web authoring tool. More than 40 ready-made ClarisWorks documents for managing small businesses are also included. With an estimated retail price of $99 in the U.S., this bundle is an excellent value for small business and home office users. EASY ON RAMP TO THE INTERNET The ClarisWorks 4.0 - Internet Edition software includes platform-specific solutions for easy Internet access; Apple Internet Connection Kit for Macintosh users and a selection of Internet connection software from leading Internet Service Providers along with Netscape Navigator for Windows 95 users; The ABC's of the Internet and Internet Yellow Pages books on CD-ROM for finding information on the Web; and Claris Home Page 2.0, the next generation of the web authoring tool that lets users build dynamic web pages in minutes. The ClarisWorks 4.0 - Internet Edition will be available beginning in February for a limited time. For more information, call 800/544-8554 or visit ClarisWeb, the Claris World Wide Web home page, at http://www.claris. com . -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT & ActiveX, Corba Message-ID: <8CF921B.09B800003D.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 08:59:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Corba Stakes Out New Territory -- As object-oriented development takes off, corporate developers find they need tools to distribute objects across all major operating platforms 09/09/96 InformationWeek For a technology that has languished for several years, the Object Management Group's Corba specification is showing strong signs of life. Interest in Corba-related products is at an all-time high, as evidenced by a slew of product announcements over the past several weeks. "Corba is starting to grow up," says Jeffrey Nickerson, technical di-rector of emerging technologies for Coopers & Lybrand in Edison, N.J. "Corba development tools are maturing, and corporations are building applications with them. Most important, the tools vendors recognize there's a market here. " Having the support of major tools vendors is critical to Corba's success, Nickerson says. "Corba is great, but look at the size of the companies support it. They're tiny. The involvement of big, stable companies, like Sun and IBM, will give users a feeling of security." In fact, Sun Microsystems and IBM recently announced a cross-licensing deal to share their respective object technologies. OUTPOURING OF TOOLS Corba is the Common Object Request Broker Architecture, an open specification that defines how objects-reusable chunks of code that make up client-server applications-communicate in distributed environments. Until recently, Corba was used primarily by C++ developers building Unix applications. However, there's been an outpouring of Corba tools for other programming languages and operating environments. Corba tools that support Sun's Java, Microsoft's ActiveX, and numerous 4GLs were in full bloom at the recent Object World conference in San Jose, Calif. The Object Management Group (OMG) announced that member companies are supporting its ActiveX/Corba Interworking Specification. ACIS specifies a bidirectional communication mechanism between the ActiveX common object model and Corba objects, which ensures that objects from either object model can talk to each other. Digital Equipment, Expersoft, Hewlett-Packard, Iona Technologies, and Visual Edge Software already ship Corba products with ACIS capabilities built in. Work is now under way to incorporate Microsoft's distributed common object model (DCOM) specification into ACIS. Next Software Inc. of Redwood City, Calif., also threw its hat into the Corba-to-ActiveX ring. The vendor announced Corba support for its WebObjects and OpenStep development platforms. Next uses Iona's Orbix ORB object request broker in its tools, and has adopted ActiveX in its framework. The two developments give Next users near-seamless connectivity between Windows and Corba applications. While some companies integrate Corba with other object technologies, other vendors are working to improve Corba's raw performance. On Aug. 19, embedded systems vendor Chorus Systems of Campbell, Calif., announced version 3.1 of its Corba-compliant Chorus/Cool ORB, which the company says communicates three times faster, and requires 50% less memory, than other shrink-wrapped object request brokers. Chorus' Chorus/Cool ORB supports Windows 95, Windows NT, Linux, IBM AIX, Sun Solaris, SunOS, and SCO OpenServer 5. Cool ORB interoperates across all the supported platforms. Chorus officials say they are now working on adding support for HP/UX, SCO UnixWare, and Java. Hewlett-Packard in Palo Alto, Calif., and Persistence Software in San Mateo, Calif., are tackling Corba's biggest weakness:the difficulty of implementing Corba's many distributed object services. Persistence's Orbix Interface Generator makes it easier for developers to tie Iona's Orbix ORB with Persistence's application server. This lets programmers develop applications that communicate with back-end relational databases using object messaging. HP is turning to application development "wizards"-step-by-step, procedural assistants-to guide programmers through the creation of Corba objects. The wizards will first appear in HP's ORB Plus 2.0. The product will also interoperate with the ActiveX component standard. WEB OBJECTS The advent of distributed computing over the Internet is perhaps the primary force driving interest in Corba. ORBs that conform to the Corba specification are preferred by developers who want to join Web application servers and browser applications. Like HTML, the language of the Web, Corba ORBs are platform independent and can run across a variety of operating systems. Other object technologies, such as ActiveX and Netscape Plug-Ins, are hard-wired to their respective platforms. "The OMG's purpose is not to create a product, but rather to produce a standard for vendors to interpret," says Albert Eng, director of financial technology for the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce in New York. Growing industry interest in Corba is bad news for Microsoft. It contends that OMG's Corba will remain a largely unadopted technology, one that Microsoft steadfastly refuses to support. "We don't focus on putting nails in [OMG's] coffin; they do a fine job of that by themselves," quips John Ludwig, VP for Microsoft's Internet tools and platforms division. Even Corba proponents admit the technology has a long way to go before it poses a severe threat to Microsoft's ActiveX object technology. Corba may be technologically superior to ActiveX, but using Corba services is far more difficult than dragging-and-dropping an ActiveX control onto a Visual Basic form. It takes a lot longer to build a Corba server than it does an OLE server, but the distributed capabilities of Corba services are greater, says Eng. "With ActiveX, you just need a Visual Basic programmer, and you can get an OLE server running," he says. "But you get what you pay for." -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AppleShare IP 5.0 Message-ID: <8CF9267.09B8000041.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 10:15:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple Bridges Its Networking Software to Internet/Intranet with AppleShare IP 5.0; Integrates Web, Mail, and FTP Servers; Provides Open, Extensible Platform for Developers Apple Computer has announced a public beta version of its next-generation AppleShare server software--AppleShare IP 5.0. A Power PC-native application, AppleShare IP 5.0 combines traditional file and print capabilities with web, mail, and File Transfer Protocol (FTP) services, providing users with a one- stop productivity solution to share information and resources. Designed for small business or corporate users at the departmental and workgroup level, AppleShare IP 5.0 allows customers to keep the familiar Macintosh interface, but benefit from TCP as the underlying transport protocol. The system's open, extensible platform supports third-party enhancements and customization. Education and small office/home office (SOHO) markets will also benefit from the integrated functionality, simple operation and low cost. APPLESHARE IP 5.0 SERVICES The AppleShare IP 5.0 Apple File Protocol (AFP) Server includes support for both TCP/IP and AppleTalk. Using the Apple Macintosh Workstation client version 3.7--the software enabling each client to access the server-- customers can share files in a consistent manner over both TCP/IP and AppleTalk networks. Users can also mount AFP volumes over the Internet. The AppleShare IP 5.0 Web Server includes Common Gateway Interface (CGI) support. Security is shared with the file server allowing for easier administration. The AppleShare IP 5.0 FTP server supports all common FTP commands, anonymous log-ins and includes BinHex and MacBinary encoding allowing users to collaborate and share files within the local network and across the Internet from remote locations. The AppleShare IP 5.0 FTP Server automatically encodes files in the standard BinHex format when requested by an FTP client, eliminating the need for administrators to store duplicate files on the server. The AppleShare IP 5.0 Mail Server provides fast and simple Internet email utilizing Post Office Protocol (POP)/Simple Mail Transport Protocol (SMTP) mail services. Compatible with nearly every POP/SMTP mail client on the market--including Macintosh, Windows, UNIX, and OS/2--this feature allows users access to their mail from any client machine. Its robust feature set includes SMTP routing with full support for Domain Name Services (DNS) and Mail Exchange (MX) record, Authenticated Post Office Protocol (APOP), auto- forwarding and server logging. The AppleShare IP 5.0 Mail Server supports both TCP/IP and AppleTalk. Via AppleTalk protocols, the all new AppleShare IP 5.0 Print Server supports up to 30 printers, 10 queues and 32 simultaneous print sessions freeing users waiting for print jobs. Its load balancing capabilities allow for faster print queue processing by distributing print jobs among multiple printers. It also supports the LaserWriter 8.4 driver, Postscript level two and server side PostScript Printer Descriptions (PPD). The AppleShare IP 5.0 Admin control panel provides administrators with the power to easily manage server functions such as maintaining users and groups access privileges and set-up of mail and print services. EXTENSIBLE PLATFORM FOR DEVELOPERS AppleShare IP 5.0 is an open, extensible platform allowing Mac OS developers to add, enhance or replace existing services or tailor services to specific user needs. As the AppleShare IP 5.0 Admin panel is an OpenDoc container, Mac OS developers can extend functionality for easier network administration. SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS, COMPATIBILITY, AND AVAILABILITY AppleShare IP 5.0 requires an Apple Power Macintosh with a PowerPC 601, 604 or 604e microprocessor; Macintosh System Software Version 7.6 (included) or later; Open Transport 1.1.2 (included) or later; a minimum of 24MB of RAM; a minimum of 10MB of available hard disk space; and a CD-ROM drive. AppleShare IP 5.0 is backwards compatible with previous AppleShare servers to provide services for both Mac OS and Windows clients and is compatible with all versions of the Macintosh Workstation client. To take advantage of all the benefits of AFP over TCP/IP, users should upgrade their Apple Macintosh Workstation client to version 3.7. A beta version of AppleShare IP 5.0 is available immediately from Apple's website: http://appleshareip.apple.com/. Apple expects to ship the final version of AppleShare IP 5.0 in the first half of 1997. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple Location Manager Message-ID: <8CF9267.09B8000042.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 10:15:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 APPLE LOCATION MANAGER MAKES IT EASY TO USE POWERBOOKS AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS Apple Computer has announced a free software utility for PowerBook computers called Apple Location Manager. Apple Location Manager software makes it easy for PowerBook users to move from one location to another without having to spend a lot of time manually reconfiguring their computer with every move. Apple Location Manager allows users to assign specific settings for a variety of capabilities including networking, printers, time zone, file sharing, sound, frequently used applications, and even which extensions need to be in use. Once a location is set up, a user simply selects that location and the system recognizes the user's preferences for that environment. For example, a typical PowerBook user might have two locations, named "Home" and "Office", defined for a single PowerBook. When "Home" is selected, the printer becomes a StyleWriter printer connected via serial port, File Sharing is turned off, and Apple Remote Access and Claris E-mailer are automatically opened. When "Office" is selected, the printer becomes the office LaserWriter, File Sharing is turned on, the servers for the projects being worked on are automatically mounted and the network connection is changed to the correct office Ethernet settings. WHAT ARE ALL THE SETTINGS THAT CAN BE PRE-DEFINED? Apple Location Manager is set up similarly to the "control strip" and ships with seven different modules. They are: 1. Networking-The networking module allows users to save their networking connections for various locations and switch easily among them. 2. Printer -The Printer module lets users save a printer selection so that they can return to it without having to go through the Chooser. 3. File Sharing-Depending on location, sometimes a user wants file sharing enabled, and sometimes it is not desirable. The file sharing module allows users to preselect this option based on location. 4. Extensions Manager- Since many extensions are only needed at a particular location, the extensions manager module allows users to select only the ones they need, thus saving 'Start up' time by not loading unnecessary extensions (such as a printer not used at home). Apple Location Manager allows you to select, at start-up, which set of extensions you want to use, thereby eliminating the need for re- starting when changing which extensions are in use. 5. Auto-Open Item-With the Auto-Open Item module, users can select which applications or documents they prefer to have automatically opened at any given location. 6. Sound-The sound module allows users to adjust the volume of their computer to a given location, which can often vary greatly depending on where the computer is being used. 7. Time Zone-The time zone module eliminates the need for frequent travelers to reset the time of their computer, as it can be automatically pre-set base af January, concurrent with the availability of Mac OS 7.6. It will be distributed free via the PowerBook website at: http://www. powerbook.apple.com/. Apple Location Manager software is expected to ship on all 1400 series PowerBooks in early February, 1997 when Mac OS 7.6. is slated to ship. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: QuickTimeVR & OLiVR Message-ID: <8CF92BE.09B8000043.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 11:42:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple to Incorporate OLiVR Streaming Technology in QuickTime VR 2.0 --- OLiVR Corp. and Apple Computer, Inc., in an agreement aimed at improving the display of Web content, announced that Apple's QTVR 2.0 will incorporate OLiVR streaming technology. With the integration of Apple's QTVR 2.0, the premiere multimedia Web authoring tool, and OLiVR's patented fractal wavelet image compression and streaming technology, Web producers are now able to publish photorealistic, 3-D QTVR movies in real-time, or "streamed," without forcing users to wait for the download time currently required before viewing a QTVR movie. The Apple-OLiVR integration particularly enhances the Web's potential for net- based commerce, offering for the first time compelling 3-D content which is instantly accessible to user interaction. Under the agreement, Apple will work with OLiVR to enable OLiVR products to work with all of Apple's QTVR 2.0 technologies, including production tools, runtime software, technology framework and Internet plug-in. OLiVR, in turn, will support the QTVR 2.0 playback file format with its Production Toolkit and Viewer client software. Apple will bundle the QTVR 2.0-adapted OLiVR streaming technology, client software, and OLiVR's Interactive Image Database (IID) file format architecture into the QTVR 2.0 viewer, and will endorse the OLiVR Toolkit to Apple developers as a solution for streaming QTVR content. The streaming technology will be available separately from OLiVR. The agreement also ensures compatibility between QTVR 2.0 content and OLiVR Server software, allowing QTVR 2.0 content to leverage OLiVR Servers' advanced features, such as user preference tracking, user-customized content, and personalized Web page creation. Users will be able to interact with QTVR 2.0 movies using the Netscape Navigator or Microsoft Internet Explorer browser, which incorporate the Apple QTVR Player within Apple's QuickTime plug-in (http://quicktime.apple.com). A technology demonstration will be on display at Apple's main booth during the MACWORLD Expo/San Francisco trade show, January 7-10, 1997. "Apple's QuickTime Media Layer (QTML) technologies, including QuickTime VR, are extending the multimedia and virtual reality capabilities of the Web," said Bud Smith, QuickTime VR product marketing manager for Apple. "Media- rich QTVR-based Web content has a proven track record as an effective tool for increasing hit rates at corporate Web sites. OLiVR's streaming technologies now make QuickTime VR an even more powerful platform for next- generation Web-content creation. Apple is pleased to be working with OLiVR to provide Internet users with a comprehensive solution for compressing and streaming QuickTime VR multimedia files over the Web." "OLiVR is committed to supporting Apple's QuickTime VR architecture," said Jacob Guedalia, CEO of OLiVR Corp. "The tight integration of OLiVR's technologies and QTVR will accelerate the growing acceptance of QTVR as an Internet standard. The combined multimedia and streaming capabilities will enable new net-commerce site design, such as on-line shopping malls and catalogs with instantly interactive, streamed 3-D photorealism." QuickTime VR (QTVR) and OLiVR OLiVR embraces and extends the QuickTime VR development platform as defined by Apple. OLiVR's Production Toolkit can be used to create Apple QuickTime VR (QTVR) images (including objects and panoramas) with the OLiVR format, enabling the progressive streaming of QTVR images over the Web. As part of the ToolKit, OLiVR has developed a transcoder for transferring from QTVR to QTVR/OLiVR file format, which can be used with already existing QTVR files. Typically, the file size of an OLiVR- converted QTVR movie is 50 percent smaller; while high- quality images are obtained with only 10 percent of the movie downloaded, resulting in a 20-fold overall improvement. The new OLiVR authoring tool plug-in technology allows QTVR Web developers to create streamed 3-D images with which users can interact (see images from all views, zoom in, open, press buttons, try features) immediately. Users do not have to wait for the OLiVR-encoded QTVR movie to appear; it is will be accessible as soon as athe Web page itself is loaded. The OLiVR Production ToolKit is available at www.OLiVR.com. OLiVR's patented fractal wavelet compression algorithm essentially solves the Web's bandwidth bottleneck. OLiVR's patented Fractal Wavelet image compression and streaming capabilities create faster bandwidth transmission, better Web connectivity management, and best-possible rendered image quality. These unique factors ensure that visitors viewing any OLiVR-illustrated Web site will always see the highest- quality image at any point in the downloading process, with far less visual "noise" than existing technologies. Furthermore, OLiVR's patented compression/decompression technology makes possible resolution-independent rendering and bandwidth scalability through its unique Fractal and Wavelet components. OLiVR has developed the following technologies, which will fully support current and future versions of QuickTime VR: -- Compression encoding/decoding technology and algorithms based on fractal and wavelet imaging, significantly reducing file size and allowing enhanced interactivity, streaming and progressive rendering of panoramic movies and interactive images. -- Client/server software that enhances photorealistic panoramic movies and interactive images with advanced features such as user profile and preference tracking, and customized and personalized Web content generation. Compatible with OLiVR Servers, QTVR 2.0 web content will leverage OLiVR Servers' features. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MacOS 7.6 + Cyberdog Message-ID: <8CF9266.09B800003F.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 10:14:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 CYBERDOG 1.2 INTEGRATION WITH MAC OS 7.6 Apple today announced Mac OS 7.6 incorporating Cyberdog 1.2, a full- featured suite of Internet components with a common look and feel. Cyberdog 1. 2 includes user interface improvements, enhanced performance and new mail functionality. Users no longer need different tools as Cyberdog 1.2 offers a complete solution for mail, news, web access, FTP, telnet, and more. Cyberdog 1.2 also includes many built-in data-type viewers, such as GIF or JPEG files and provides Internet capability to applications written in OpenDoc. The tight integration of the Mac OS and Cyberdog allows users to easily drag and drop items between the two functions. A user can take a Cyberitem-- a live link to information--in the web browser and drag it to the desktop. This Cyberitem can then be used to launch Cyberdog 1.2 or access that particular resource. Files can also be dragged from the Mac OS Finder, Uniform Resource Locater links or email addresses in the Cyberdog 1.2 Notebook. Cyberdog 1.2 is available from Apple's website at: http://cyberdog. apple.com/. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: t21@ix.netcom.com (Stephan Schaem) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Wed, 08 Jan 97 12:58:24 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5b11c5$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <judas.0mwa@tomtec.abg.sub.org> <carol1-0701972248550001@17.219.103.211> In article <carol1-0701972248550001@17.219.103.211>, carol1@apple.com (Andrew Carol) wrote: >In article <judas.0mwa@tomtec.abg.sub.org>, judas@tomtec.abg.sub.org >(Th.Huber) wrote: > >> >> RISC code can`t be speed up by more integration onto the chips, only by >clocking >> the CPU higher and higher. > >You have it exactly backwards. CISC instruction sets are more complex >and require more decode logic. This makes it harder decompose the >instruction stream into independant pieces that can be dispatched >to seperate execution units. > Risc need bigger cache, faster instruction fecth to execute the same logic. >As chip integration increases, more execution units can be added >which RISC can take advantage of in a more direct fashion. (There >are fewer dependancies between instructions, etc) > And need more bandwidth and faster/bigger cache. Having fixed size instruction is great, but this do not stop you from having more complex instruction doing more per instruction. >Take a look at the fastest CISC out there, the Pentium Pro. What >does it do? It 'preprocesses' the CISC instruction stream into a >simpler, more 'RISC' like, instruction stream which is then executed. > Thats the amazing part too me... that this actually work :) It execute 3 variable size instruction per cycle.... >How much cheaper/faster would that CPU be if it could be fed >the RISC code directly? > Humm, the code size would probably double, so you need to spend $ on bigger cache and faster memory. >Show me a CISC chip and I will show you a faster/cheaper RISC >chip. > >This don't make CISC bad, just not better. > My view is, cisc better exploit the resource at hand... risc are alot faster/cheaper to design and improve giving them the edge. Even so, like some mentioned, at one time, the Pentiumpro was THE fastest CPU on earth for integer work :) > >(I won't even bring up the point that RISC chips have high clocks >"Because they can"!) > My only concern with risc chip is their efficientcy. Not data wise tho. > >In the end it really doesn't matter. Most code is written in >a high level languge and can compile anywhere. Code that is >written against a particular CPU will be shortlived. > Yes, but it will live long enought to make sense to do it. (I mean hand written specific CPU code) >Even a CISC is no promise of long life. Code written against >8086 is _NOT_ very performal on a Pentium today. Sure it runs, but >very poorly compared to code written with that CPU in mind. > Code written for the P5 might run VERY porrly on a P6 etc... > >Advice: Write it in a high level language and re-compile as needed. > My advice... Write in the language that fit the best, and hand optimize assembly version of the critical part (If any). Most compiler today can produce code as much as 4 time slower as human rewritten code. Stephan
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NXHost from HP->Motorola Date: 8 Jan 1997 21:05:31 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5b126r$o1p@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I've been trying to NXHost from an HP to a Motorola box and have been having some difficulty. I've gotten it to work, but it is incredibly unstable. I'm wondering if it is just going to be inherently unstable, or if I should invest some time in trying to get it to work better. Both machines are running 3.3. Thanks much - Jon -- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (317) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (317) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (317) 742-7961 (Home)
From: serge.rossi@wanadoo.fr (Serge Rossi) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:40:45 +0100 Organization: Happiness is a computer called Macintosh :-) Distribution: inet Message-ID: <1997010822404556583@yellow-orl-39.wanadoo.fr> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de> <5b0vhc$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stephan Schaem <t21@ix.netcom.com> écrivait : > Not broken... MMX is for 'integer' work, and the x86 is not that horrible > for integer work... what MMX do is work with data array, and I dont think > any CPU untill very recently offer this. can a PPC multiply 8 value and clip > each individual result in 1 cycle? Can a Pentium MMX access 8 values in memory in 1 cycle ? No ! And there is few common programs who need this kind of integer work. MMX will be very interesting for games ! -- Email : Serge.Rossi@wanadoo.fr ; Serge.Rossi@renault.fr Fidonet : 2:320/405.42 ; 2:320/109.42 First Class : Serge Rossi,Ellis Web : http://www.burpteam.home.ml.org/
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill@texas.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Background Patterns with 3.2? Date: 8 Jan 1997 21:55:15 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <5b1543$au3@news3.texas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anybody know a way I can get background images, or even just a pattern, on my NeXTStep 3.2 (moto) desktop? all I can seem to do with the "factory" software is a solid shade of grey... -- Bill Bradford (BB2623) Systems Admin, UNIX geek, BOFH mrbill@texas.net * mrbill@mrbill.net Texas Networking, Inc. "I'ts hard to beleive that the entire fate of 823 Congress, Suite 440 the world lies in the hands of the Phone Austin, TX 78701 Company" - War of the Worlds http://www.texas.net
From: kevin@raven.dartmouth.edu (Kevin P. Parks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb.app 2.5 for NeXT 3.2? Date: 8 Jan 1997 16:40:03 -0500 Organization: Dartmouth College, Music Dept. Message-ID: <5b147j$5l5@raven.dartmouth.edu> Hi! I am still using OmniWeb 1.0. I Noticed that 2.5 is out, and i would love to be able to use it, but it doesn't seem to work on 3.2. Does this mean that if you have NeXTSTep 3.2, you are forever stuck with 1.0 ? Anyone got a Better FREE (!!!) Web browser for the next or have a newer OmniWeb working on an '040 running 3.2? cheers, -kp--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701081410.JAA29966@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 7154d90a01275337814d2d31b8836a6d - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 97 09:10:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Spice for NeXT Black... Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 7154d90a01275337814d2d31b8836a6d - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Timothy Stonis <timothy@sirius.com> Original Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 14:04:02 -0800 > Does anyone know if there is a version of Spice for NeXT? Thanks... Yes there is, send me an email message with the SUBJECT search-peak spice for the URLs. Or, for a case-sensitive search, use search-peak -c Spice TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-) Here is what ps gives me: > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND > ..... > antoine 492 63.9 3.3 806M 1.06M ? R 10:47 OmniWeb > ..... > > Any clues ? Should I modify my lowat ? I would. Figure out how much swapspace you're willing to live without, and then set LOWAT to that. Then make a new swapfile using 'mkfile' that is the size of LOWAT (just setting the LOWAT setting won't make the swapfile that size) If you can find a small disk and use that as a swapdisk, you'll be happy with the improved performance. > btw, I have 31mb of ram. 31 meg? That seems an odd amount. Anyway, at base your swapfile should be that size. I've got 32ram and my swapfile on my swapdisk is set to a lowat of 80megs. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-)
From: mandtbac@news.abo.fi (Mats Andtbacka) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy Date: 8 Jan 1997 23:25:28 GMT Organization: Unorganized Usenet Postings UnInc. Distribution: comp Message-ID: <5b1ad8$osu@josie.abo.fi> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <judas.0mwa@tomtec.abg.sub.org> <carol1-0701972248550001@17.219.103.211> Andrew Carol, in <carol1-0701972248550001@17.219.103.211>: [...] >Even a CISC is no promise of long life. Code written against >8086 is _NOT_ very performal on a Pentium today. Sure it runs, but >very poorly compared to code written with that CPU in mind. surely you jest. comparing wall clock times between the original 8086 and the P5, the latter should still be an order of magnitude or two faster, optimal or suboptimal. -- "...it's all wrong but it's alright..." -- Clapton
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill@texas.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb.app 2.5 for NeXT 3.2? Date: 8 Jan 1997 23:36:20 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <5b1b1k$au3@news3.texas.net> References: <5b147j$5l5@raven.dartmouth.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Kevin P. Parks <kevin@raven.dartmouth.edu> wrote: : Hi! I am still using OmniWeb 1.0. I Noticed that 2.5 : is out, and i would love to be able to use it, but it doesn't : seem to work on 3.2. Does this mean that if you have NeXTSTep : 3.2, you are forever stuck with 1.0 ? Anyone got a Better : FREE (!!!) Web browser for the next or have a newer OmniWeb : working on an '040 running 3.2? : cheers, : -kp-- Install the FoundationKit for 3.3 (available on NeXTAnswers), and Omniweb 2.5 works fine on 3.2... I use it every day. bill -- Bill Bradford (BB2623) Systems Admin, UNIX geek, BOFH mrbill@texas.net * mrbill@mrbill.net Texas Networking, Inc. "I'ts hard to beleive that the entire fate of 823 Congress, Suite 440 the world lies in the hands of the Phone Austin, TX 78701 Company" - War of the Worlds http://www.texas.net
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: music writing programs? Date: 9 Jan 1997 01:39:21 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5b1i89$97i@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5at6oq$dr9@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be> <5b0lsp$77l$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> In-Reply-To: <5b0lsp$77l$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> On 01/08/97, Yves Pons wrote: > There was also an App named I think Max which was made by the > French Institute & laboratory Ircam. It could used a special card > which used 4 DSP named Ariel. > The second App is the musik kit made by the CCRMA. > Not quite -- the Ariel QuintProcessor (five DSPs) enabled extensions to the NeXT's inherent DSP capabilities; MusicKit could take advantage of this it it was there. Max ran on the ISPW (Ircam Signal Processing Workstation) -- a truly awesome beast with, if I remember rightly, two i860s in addition to another 56k. Up to three of these cards could be put into a Cube, and up to four Cubes joined together, producing a staggering (for the time, and even for now) compute power (1.92 GFlops?). Max was a programming language for combining abstract DSP elements for real-time synthesis (there was also a GUI for it, called Animal if I remember rightly). Corrections welcome. Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: nervous@system.net (Nervous) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 9 Jan 1997 01:30:33 GMT Organization: Central Nervous System Distribution: inet Message-ID: <nervous-0801972031070001@ascend3.netrover.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de> <E3nG0s.Gyy@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5avm6c$v95@white.koehntopp.de> Whoever started this pathetic thread can eat shit. -- rhapsody: rhap.so.dy \'rap-s*d-e-\ n recitation of selections from epic poetry; a highly emotional utterance or literary work; RAPTURE, ECSTASY; the new Macintosh OS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Message-ID: <1997Jan8.185101.91410@cc.usu.edu> From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 8 Jan 97 18:51:00 MDT References: <199701051705.MAA18791@nerc.com> <jbf-ya023580000601970202220001@news.tiac.net> <5augh4$q29@news.acns.nwu.edu> Cc: jburton@nwu.edu In <5augh4$q29@news.acns.nwu.edu> Joshua W. Burton wrote: > I'm a little confused about all these people who are conceding we lack > "dial on demand" under NeXTstep, perhaps because I don't know what the > Windoze world means by dial on demand. My 1994-vintage SLIP setup, > courtesy of Louis Mamakos, is ancestral to the later NeXT freeware > SLIP and PPP implementations, both of which were alleged to be much > easier to set up than the three-hour hair-pull I went through when I > set up my ancient version. (I have no first-hand experience with the > PNI SLIP or PPP, because what I have has worked flawlessly for almost > three years, and I didn't want to monkey with it.) Anyway, the setup > I have now will hang up an unused line after a user-settable interval, > and will bring up the SLIP line automatically whenever any app sends > outgoing packets, unless I have specifically disabled it when I last > brought it down. Unless there has been some weird retrogression, the > two more modern packages almost certainly do the same thing. If this > isn't "dial on demand", what is? Just wondering.... Mamakos' old SLIP did indeed have true dial-on-demand. The later versions, beginning with the PNI versions, did not. Neither does the PPP package. You're thinking that just because this feature exists in previous versions, it must have propagated intact to the later versions. However progress is not always what it seems.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: where to get Sonata font? Date: 9 Jan 1997 02:57:57 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5b1mrl$bc3@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <E3pD3E.JGA@midway.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <E3pD3E.JGA@midway.uchicago.edu> On 01/08/97, Coffee wrote: > Adobe says they don't have it. Does anyone know where I can order the > Sonata font for a NeXTStation? > I believe about the only way now is to buy a Mac version from Adobe and convert it? Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: kevin@raven.dartmouth.edu (Kevin P. Parks) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: (new vi) nvi-1.71 for 3.2 Date: 8 Jan 1997 19:56:19 -0500 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Message-ID: <5b1fnj$6bj@raven.dartmouth.edu> Hi! As an old vi user i would like to give the new vi a whirl. Anyone have the latest nvi compiled for NeXT m68k 3.2? I saw nvi 1.71, but it was only compiled for 3.3 thanks in advance. -kp-- ps. Anyone know it there is www site for the nvi development? I would love to know what its new features are.
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: where to get Sonata font? Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 22:57:19 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023580000801972257190001@news.tiac.net> References: <E3pD3E.JGA@midway.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <E3pD3E.JGA@midway.uchicago.edu>, bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu (Coffee) wrote: > Adobe says they don't have it. Does anyone know where I can order the > Sonata font for a NeXTStation? Ther are a number of cheap notation packages for the Mac that include Sonata clones. You can buy one - usually for under $50 - and rename the ps font description. I did that with the font in Passport's Music Time and it worked perfectly with NeXT notation apps. There are a few differences in symbols you don't need. Barney
From: mmunz@inconnect.com (Mark Munz) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 8 Jan 1997 07:54:25 GMT Organization: Puppy Dog Software Distribution: inet Message-ID: <mmunz-0801970053350001@slc-dial-28.inconnect.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <judas.0mwa@tomtec.abg.sub.org> In article <judas.0mwa@tomtec.abg.sub.org>, judas@tomtec.abg.sub.org (Th.Huber) wrote: >>I will leave you with this thought: >>Reduced Instruction Set = Less Transistors = Lower Cost. > >It isn`t as simple as that. > >RISC uses a reduced instructionset, to use all of the available transistors >to speed up these instructions. RISC uses carry-look-ahead logic to do very >quick maths, while plain CISC takes lots of cycles to get the same thing done. Actually, RISC stands for Reduced Instruction Set Computer. But, it does not necessarily mean less instructions (I believe PPC has some 200 instructions). The term refers to the ISA (Instruction Set Architecture) and not the processor. What RISC can be thought of is: A large uniform register set A load/store architecture A minimal number of addressing modes A simple fixed-length instruction encoding No/minimal support for misaligned accesses btw.. there is an interesting book by Kip McClanahan called "PowerPC Programming for Intel Programmers" to gives a side-by-side comparison of the x86 and the PPC differences in architecture and such. Even though I'm not an x86 programmer, I still found the book to be full of good explanations of how the PPC worked. Mark Munz
From: John Hornkvist Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Recognizing Filename extensions... Date: 9 Jan 1997 00:35:43 GMT Organization: Chalmers Tekniska Högskola Message-ID: <5b1egv$qmk@nyheter.chalmers.se> References: <5b0sb5$g88@news-2.csn.net> Cc: bff@icarus In <5b0sb5$g88@news-2.csn.net> Brendan Forsyth wrote: >How do I get NS to recognize filename extensions other than those >already registered? I want .pl (perl) to be opened by Emacs.app rather >then Edit.app. I placed the following entry in my >.NeXT/suffixes3_1.i386.wmd file: > >pl = (/LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs, plfile); > >But it doesn't work. It also appears that this file gets overwritten >at some point in time. I think it gets overwritten at login. You can always recompile Emacs, that's what I did... :) It think a better way may be to use "otool" on the emacs binary. >I'd like the same functionality for .gz files too. Get Opener.app! It does most such things. --- John Hornkvist --- nhoj at cd dot chalmers dot se Working on MSc in Computer Engineering, and MSc in Industrial Engineering and Management of Technology Does anyone need a NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP savvy programmer for the summer of '97? Sorry for not leaving my address in the header, but I get too many spam mails already... If you want to reach me, try nhoj at cd dot chalmers dot se
From: edward_xu@vos.stratus.com (Edward Xu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How can I change the icon and default link of a document. Date: 9 Jan 1997 06:24:41 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <5b22v9$qh@transfer.stratus.com> Hi! I just installed Movie3.0. This software changed the icons of all my .txt and .gif files and link these files to it. Every time I double click on gif file, Movie3.0 was triggered, although ImageViewer should be triggered. Anyone knows how can I change the icons back (Of cause, restore the link of.txt file with Edit and .gif with ImageViewer). Thanks. Edward.
From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Khoros for NextStep? Date: 9 Jan 1997 10:29:22 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b2ha2$ko5@news.tuwien.ac.at> Does such a thing exist? Thanks, khanh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Thilo Stueve <tstuve@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Subject: Miranda on Mach/NeXT Sender: news@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (News Administrator) Message-ID: <32D4C5B9.5B7C@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:17:29 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld Is the functional programming language Miranda available for Mach/NeXT?
From: Sebastian Niesen <sniesen@imib.rwth-aachen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MacOS 7.6 + Cyberdog Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:32:34 +0100 Organization: NaixT - The NEXTSTEP User Group Aachen Message-ID: <32D4F372.39BF@imib.rwth-aachen.de> References: <8CF9266.09B800003F.uuout@moondog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No offence meant, but if I wanted all this Macintosh information, I'd read the macintosh newsgroups. Just because NeXT is no more doesn't mean that we all become very interested in Apple all of a sudden. Sebastian _______________________________________________________________________________ Sebastian Niesen sniesen@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Student Of Computer Science sniesen@imib.rwth-aachen.de RWTH Aachen http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~sniesen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199701090532.AAA13520@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 00:32:00 -0500 Subject: "emil" for NeXTStep? Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Any of you gurus out there manage to compile 'emil' (it's a mail thing that will change MIME message types, such as changing quoted printable to 8bit -- especially useful in procmail scripts). Source is at: ftp://ftp.uu.se/pub/unix/networking/mail/emil/emil-2.1.0-beta9.tar.gz http://www.uu.se/emil/ but it didn't compile for me and I don't know enough to try and debug it. If anyone has it, please let me know! TIA TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-)
From: Enigma <llay@sdcc10.ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to do POP mail? Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:13:03 -0800 Organization: University of California, San Diego Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970109010540.2755A-100000@sdcc10.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'm wondering how I might send/retrieve mail using POP in NeXT/OPENSTEP? My ISP only allow me to use POP for retrieving mail. I found a couple of Unix programs that can retrieve mail by POP, but how do I configure NeXTMail/Pine/elm/whatever to put my POP account address instead of my local made-up machine name when I send mail? Ideas and experiences appreciated... Luke.
From: Burkhard Neidecker-Lutz <neideck@kar.dec.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 17:15:20 +0100 Organization: Digital CEC Karlsruhe Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32D51998.4875@kar.dec.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <nervous-0701970809040001@ascend17.netrover.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nervous wrote: > Too bad NT is not being supported on Alpha platforms...or _any_ RISC chip! Mmh. Why would you think that NT is *not* supported on Alpha ? Just because both MIPS and PowerPC chickened out of NT doesn't mean that Digital would. NT most certainly is supported across the entire line of Alpha machines. As a matter of fact, Digital only today introduced new NT Alphas (cheap 433 and 500 Mhz workstations with SDRAM main memory systems). Burkhard Neidecker-Lutz CEC Karlsruhe , European Applied Research Center, Digital Equip. Corp. email: neideck@kar.dec.com 433Mhz 21164, 64 MB RAM, 3.2 GB disk, 17" monitor, NT included: just $3999 SPEC95 12.6e/12.0e, See http://www.enorex.com/ for details
From: jdevlin@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadm Subject: Retraining for Rhapsody with WatchMe.app Date: 9 Jan 1997 17:00:31 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <5b387f$t4r@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> However nice the new Apple OS turns out to be, retraining is going to be a major stumbling block. EVERY effort should be made to make the transition as easy as possible. WatchMe.app is perfect for this job and should be bundled with the OS. If you're unfamiliar with the app, WatchMe has an interface that's similar to a VCR, and it allows you to make binary "audio-cassettes" which capture all the activity on screen (mouse movements, keyboard input, etc.) with audio annotations. You can edit, save and replay these tapes at will. You can even drag them directly into a NEXTMail message. SUGGESTION: The new Apple OS should come with an entire CDRom library of WatchMe cassettes on every conceivable topic. For every bundled app, there should be a general overview along with individual tapes on particular topics. Third party developers should be encouraged to ship their products in the same way. Updates could be provided on Web sites. If you rewrite the app in Java, people could even play them in their browsers. People would RAVE about the tool and would be PLEASED to ride their way up the learning curve. System administrators could develop local libraries as a first line of support. Administration and training costs would plummet. There's just no comparison between the effectiveness of SHOWING someone how to do something on a computer as opposed to giving them printed instructions. In the past, printed instructions offered an advantage insofar as they could be saved, copied and distributed. With WatchMe, all the advantages now lay on the other side. But note: The balance of the benefits depend upon the ubiquity of the tool. It really ought to be something that's available to every developer and every user for free (ie, bundled with the OS). When something is available which would offer such tremendous value, it would be a big mistake to pass on it. -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: What is the best Web Browser for 3.2 Black? Message-ID: <1997Jan9.121330.760@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: luomat@nerc.com Organization: Disorganization References: <199701061532.KAA08382@nerc.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:13:30 GMT In <199701061532.KAA08382@nerc.com> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > "best" is such a relative term on these groups, I'll point you to OmniWeb > > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.1.5/OmniWeb.2.1.5.N.tar.gz > > which is "best" for me because it is free and wildly supported. The new 2.5 (beta) versions of Omniweb run much faster than the old 2.1.5. This is especially true for old cubes and slabs, where Omniweb was almost unusable due to its "speed". -- C++ is to C as Lung Cancer is to Lung
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MacOS 7.6 + Cyberdog Date: 9 Jan 97 12:37:03 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AEFA96F3-CC402@207.147.62.179> References: <32D4F372.39BF@imib.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Cyberdog-AltBoundary-000CC30B" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-000CC30B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 9, 1997 8:32 AM, Sebastian Niesen <mailto:sniesen@imib.rwth-aachen.de> wrote: > No offence meant, but if I wanted all this Macintosh information, > I'd read the macintosh newsgroups. Just because NeXT is no more doesn't > mean that we all become very interested in Apple all of a sudden. Strikes me that if you have any interest in current NeXT information, then you must have an interest in Apple, otherwise, you are living in the past, which is fine for historians and the Moody Blues, but less useful for people in the technology industry. 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From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to do POP mail? Date: 9 Jan 1997 17:25:48 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <5b39ms$9rh$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970109010540.2755A-100000@sdcc10.ucsd.edu> Enigma <llay@sdcc10.ucsd.edu> wrote: > >Hi, > >I'm wondering how I might send/retrieve mail using POP in NeXT/OPENSTEP? >My ISP only allow me to use POP for retrieving mail. I found a couple of >Unix programs that can retrieve mail by POP, but how do I configure >NeXTMail/Pine/elm/whatever to put my POP account address instead of my local >made-up machine name when I send mail? > >Ideas and experiences appreciated... > >Luke. > Get PopOver.app from next-ftp.peak.org to retrieve your mail. The best way to set up sending mail is to use the masqurading feature of the new sendmail. There is also alot of good info. on Timothy's page: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Hope this helps. --Ryan
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How can I change the icon and default link of a document. Date: 9 Jan 1997 17:30:00 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <5b39uo$9rh$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <5b22v9$qh@transfer.stratus.com> edward_xu@vos.stratus.com (Edward Xu) wrote: >Hi! > >I just installed Movie3.0. This software changed the icons of all my .txt >and .gif files and link these files to it. Every time I double click on >gif file, Movie3.0 was triggered, although ImageViewer should be >triggered. Anyone knows how can I change the icons back (Of cause, restore >the link of.txt file with Edit and .gif with ImageViewer). Thanks. > >Edward. Select one .gif or .txt files and use command-3 to open the tools inspector. Set the application which you want to be the default application. Note: this may or maynot return the original icons. I have had mixed results. It seems that the last installed application's icon gets priority inspite of the Inspector/tools setting. --Ryan
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Dantz's/Zulch's opinion Message-ID: <8CFC24F.09B8000055.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 09:51:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Nobody asked for Richard Zulch's opinion, and his decision to send out this press release is a bit egotistical IMO, but his ideas are nevertheless well thought out and reasonable. ### Analysis of Apple MacOS and NeXT OpenStep According to Richard Zulch, CTO of Dantz Development Corporation 01/06/97 Business Wire ORINDA, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 6, 1997--Richard Zulch, CTO of Dantz Development Corporation, offers this perspective on the potential, and potential pitfalls, of Apple's acquisition of NexT: THE OS STORY Apple had to reach outside to replace the current dated and unstable MacOS because their R&D group completely bankrupted its capacity to claim future accomplishments. The BeOS story was flashy but not deep. The risk was that BeOS would be (accurately) seen as an unproven OS of questionable practicality and salability. Also, the BeOS story would be easy to grasp and thus easy to dismiss. Next provides a proven product with a forward technological direction and strong Internet component. It balances its non-mainstream innovations with a standards-oriented UNIX heritage. It is difficult to dismiss the Next story because the technology is deep and well-developed. TECHNOLOGY Tempting though it may be to label Next's technology "old," Next's engineers have been using the years since its introduction to quietly create a truly impressive piece of software. Curiously, it appears that its relative lack of popularity prevented distortions that market pressures can bring to such an engineering effort. Apple is really buying OpenStep, a portable object-based application environment. Next is currently shipping a version of OpenStep for use with Microsoft Windows NT in addition to versions for several RISC workstations. Apple must combine OpenStep with other technologies. First, Apple must pick an OS kernel such as the Mach kernel used by Linux, or NuKernel, an almost completed part of Apple's Copland project. Second, Apple needs drivers for current hardware and peripherals. Third, Apple must provide a System 7 compatibility environment that runs upon the selected OS kernel. Fourth, Apple must integrate important System 7 facilities such as QuickTime and ColorSync into the OpenStep environment. The result is a stable, modern, high-performance OS that can run legacy System 7 applications as well as new OpenStep applications. STRATEGY Platform strategies are difficult to control. Microsoft has achieved little success with Windows NT running on non-Intel hardware. Novell made large investments in PIN (Processor Independent Netware) before giving up. Customers see hardware purchases as both a current investment and a foundation for future investment. Price and performance are often outweighed by the perceived risks of straying from the mainstream, explaining why people buy 200 MHz Pentium Pro computers instead of 400 MHz DEC Alpha machines for the same price. Competitors to a mainstream platform cannot be just faster or cheaper. Apple was able to successfully compete when it had a graphical user interface and the mainstream didn't. Once Microsoft brought out Windows 3, that advantage was lost. Apple attempted to compete first in performance with PowerPC, then in price by sacrificing margins. Neither was terribly successful. Apple's past initiatives have centered around major innovations like Desktop Publishing. In recent years they've searched for the Next Big Thing without notable success. To avoid being at the mercy of these unpredictable hits, Apple must execute well on the day-to-day business, leaving the door open to capitalize on innovations when they come along. Even without the Next Big Thing, Apple is able to make products that people find uniquely attractive. Apple must enhance the Mac qualities of elegance, style, attention to detail in the human interface, attractive typefaces on screen, and overall solidity. The key benefit of Next's technology is that it gives Apple a viable foundation for delivering these qualities as well as future innovations. THE VISION Apple will craft a transition strategy that allows recent Macintosh purchasers to upgrade without losing their application software investment. Developers will take advantage of new OS features without completely rewriting their products. During the transition, customers will continue to buy Macs because Apple will promise that all currently shipping hardware will work with the new OS. However, it's unlikely that Apple can attract new customers until they have something to sell. This acquisition reflects an important change of view. In the past, Apple focused on flash instead of depth, with a vague bias against business customers. But now they seem to realize that customers won't buy a Macintosh for their home if they never see them at work. OpenStep has the potential to be a top-notch business tool. So the plan must be to meld MacOS and OpenStep into a new platform that scales from desktop PCs to servers. Inheriting both the traditional Mac constituency as well as many of the disaffected UNIX advocates, Apple plays upon Microsoft's inability to execute a successful merger of Windows 95 and NT that makes the whole PC market happy. The goal, the dream, would be a 25% market share for the Apple/Next software company within three years. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple OS Components Message-ID: <8CFC24F.09B8000056.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 09:51:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 NeXT chapter for Mac OS Apple To Renovate System; Compatibility Path Unclear (from an article in the 1/06/97 MacWeek) Three weeks of negotiations and $400 million bought Apple more than just a time-tested OS with the industrial-strength underpinnings System 7 lacks. The company also got a development environment that wins plaudits from programmers, a product line that runs on all of today's leading microprocessors--and a host of unanswered questions about how these technologies will be combined with the OS that today defines the Macintosh. In light of the urgency expressed by executives of both companies, observers are betting that the initial release due by the end of 1997 will resemble the current version of NeXTstep--a k a OpenStep/Mach--the full OS NeXT currently offers for Intel, SPARC and 68040 processors. That system's critical components include: KERNEL At its lowest levels, the NeXT OS has always been based on Version 2.5 of Mach, a kernel originally developed at Carnegie-Mellon University. The kernel handles low-level interaction with the hardware, including memory management and pre-emptive scheduling of processes and threads. It was designed to support symmetric multiprocessing, a capability Tevanian said will be included from the outset in the new Mac OS, though it is not implemented in NeXT's current products. UNIX Above the kernel, OpenStep/Mach emulates the Berkeley Standard Distribution 4.3 implementation of Unix, including a high-performance, high- reliability file system. The OS also supports other file systems, including Apple's Hierarchical File System and Sun Microsystems Inc.'s Network File System. DISPLAY POSTSCRIPT The system relies on Display PostScript, a screen-oriented version of Adobe Systems Inc.'s page-description language, as its imaging engine. When it was introduced, some critics said the technology was cumbersome and slow. Apple passed it up in favor of developing its own advanced imaging system, QuickDraw GX--in part, no doubt, to avoid the royalties NeXT pays Adobe. Tevanian said Apple and NeXT had not yet approached Adobe about the future of the PostScript license, and he said the team could switch to another engine if necessary. But he vigorously defended Display PostScript: "Absolutely no one complains about the speed. On the contrary, everyone is amazed at how fast it is and, perhaps more importantly, how nice the screen looks." OBJECTIVE C The NeXT system's most distinguishing feature has always been its application environment, which is based on a rich library of objects created in the Objective C language. Developer versions of OpenStep include Interface Builder, a tool that enables programmers to create applications by linking and subclassing the built-in objects; all versions also include a runtime engine that executes such applications by dynamically binding objects as needed. Because Objective C is by all accounts cleaner and simpler than its more widely used cousin, C++, and NeXT's object libraries provide so much of the functionality applications require, most developers and analysts agree that NeXT's environment makes creating and enhancing applications far faster than standard development systems. Applications written for OpenStep on one platform can normally be ported to another OpenStep system simply by recompiling. Originally the system supported only Objective C--a requirement that has disturbed some programmers who prefer to stick with other languages. But NeXT has already developed some ways for programmers to use C and C++ code in its environment and Metrowerks Inc. of Austin, Texas, said it will modify its CodeWarrior development system to give programmers a wider range of choices. In addition, Tevanian noted that the latest version of WebObjects, NeXT's Objective C-based server-application tool kit, gives users access to all functions from Sun Java. The same language-bridging technology, he said, is likely to be rolled into Apple's new OS. The biggest questions facing Apple, its developers and its customers are how and when the new OS will support existing Mac applications; what older Apple hardware it will run on; which Mac system services --above all the QuickTime Media Layer, but also other technologies, such as OpenDoc, Open Transport and Apple Guide--will be ported to the new OS; and what the new system will look and feel like. Prior to this week's keynote, Apple brass had few answers except to say that the initial release would probably look mostly like NeXTstep and not run System 7 applications. They promised, however, that subsequent releases would fuse the best technologies from both companies. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: KRIS@KOEHNTOPP.DE (Kristian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hntopp?=) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 9 Jan 1997 11:58:58 GMT Organization: Pinguin an Bord. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5b2mi2$7qh@white.koehntopp.de> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de> <5b0vhc$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <1997010822404556583@yellow-orl-39.wanadoo.fr> serge.rossi@wanadoo.fr (Serge Rossi) writes: >Stephan Schaem <t21@ix.netcom.com> écrivait : >> Not broken... MMX is for 'integer' work, and the x86 is not that horrible >> for integer work... what MMX do is work with data array, and I dont think >> any CPU untill very recently offer this. can a PPC multiply 8 value and clip >> each individual result in 1 cycle? >Can a Pentium MMX access 8 values in memory in 1 cycle ? No ! >And there is few common programs who need this kind of integer work. >MMX will be very interesting for games ! "Can a PPC multiply 8 values and clip each individual result in 1 cycle?" It can't. The question is: Should it? This is from the c't 1/97, page 233 (translation by me): begin grey box. MMX vs. PowerPC: sobering Thanks to MMX certain multimedia applications on the Pentium are sped up by a factor of four or five. Great. But when Pentiums main competitor, PPC, is given the same tasks, this impressive gain is somewhat less impressive. We have given Intels parade example, texturizing, to the competition. The PPC was represented by a Power Computing PowerBase 200 (PPC 603e/200MHz, Apple Performa Board) and an older Power Macintosh 7500 with a newer CPU board (PPC 604e/150 MHz). The PPC 604e should really be compared to a PentiumPro, but it fits into our little test, because even with CPU board it is much cheaper than a MMX Pentium. Even the little PPC does our little test only 20% slower than the MMX chip. The 604e is even a little faster, despite the slower clock [The MMX was 200 MHz -- KK ]. And that's with normal, slightly optimized C code on the PPCs, while the Pentium was driven by handoptimized assembler code. A Pentium with the same C code and without MMX is left behind by a factor of four. Even the PentiumPro 200 does not come even close. In real world applications, here with a beta of Photoshop 4.0, the MMX is at best en par with PPC, in most cases it is dramatically slower. Adobe praises their Photoshop as 'optimized for MMX', but there are only a few functions that are noticeably sped up. So either Adobes programmers have feared the expensive and error-prone manual assembler coding or MMX is only good for few specialized tasks. Meanwhile Apple has announced multimedia enhancements which are to be integrated into Quickdraw and which will be activated automatically on all systems with a Philips TriMedia-Chip. Before that some US computing papers reported that PPC has nothing to set against Intels MMX concept. They don't need to, so much is clear from our results. end grey box. Other facts from the c't article: MPEG decoding only sped up by 40% (Intels numbers). External specialized hardware is several factors faster. c't has doubts that MPEG-2 (for DVD) can be decoded without external hardware. MIPS and Alpha have announced features comparable to MMX, SUN and HP already have such features. All RISC competitors have more registers than MMX (31 or 32), some can even use MMX and floating point in parallel (MIPS MDMX for example). c't does not recommend a MMX upgrade, except for some special applications. Kristian -- Kristian Koehntopp, Wassilystrasse 30, 24113 Kiel, +49 431 688897 "Eigentlich waere ich eher fuer die Einrichtung von de.soc.apathie, aber so wichtig ist mir das auch nicht..." -- ig25@fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig)
From: christw@lexis-nexis.com (Christopher C. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 9 Jan 1997 18:48:55 GMT Organization: LEXIS-NEXIS, Dayton OH Message-ID: <5b3ein$4ie@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de> <5b0vhc$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> In article <5b0vhc$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>, t21@ix.netcom.com (Stephan Schaem) writes: |> My personal felling: If motorola had put as much effort in a 68070 |> as intel did with their Ppro we probably would have had something |> totaly amazing. Unfortunately, Intel was selling 10x as many '486s as Motorola was selling 68040s. This (very roughly) means that Intel had 10x the resources to pour into Pentium and PPro as Motorola had to spend on 68060 and (purely hypothetical) 68070. Ya gotta stay in business. Sales volumes and Alliances are the way to go. IBM and Motorola joining forces was a good thing. What happened to all the other 32-bit processor architectures from the early '80s? None are left as general-purpose CPUs for computers. Every one got creamed by x86's sales volumes. Of the processor architectures currently on the market: x86, HPPA, PPC, Alpha, MIPS, SPARC, ARM, etc. which ones are going to have the sales volumes to keep up, and which ones won't generate enough revenues to pay for the research and engineering of the next generation? Chris -- Speaking only for myself, of course. Chris Wood christw@lexis-nexis.com cats@CFAnet.com
From: jklein@freon.artificial.com (jon klein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MouseX ofter freezes -- help Date: 9 Jan 97 18:24:21 GMT Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Message-ID: <32d537d5.0@news.hampshire.edu> I'm running MouseX X11R5 v2.5 (i believe) on my station. It works great, except that it often freezes when switching between the NS window manager and Xwindows. Often when I click on Xfe.app and 'resume X' to get back in to Xwindows, I get a spinning cursor, and it hangs. I still have access to the NS window manager, but I have to kill all my X processes and start over again, which is needless to say, a big problem :) Does anybody know of either a solution, or an email address to send bugs or questions? Thanks! -- -jon klein jklein@freon.artificial.com Caper will do it for me.
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadm Subject: Re: Retraining for Rhapsody with WatchMe.app Date: 9 Jan 1997 18:47:04 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <5b3ef8$26v@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <5b387f$t4r@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu wrote: > SUGGESTION: The new Apple OS should come with an entire CDRom > library of WatchMe cassettes on every conceivable topic. For > every bundled app, there should be a general overview along with > individual tapes on particular topics. Third party developers > should be encouraged to ship their products in the same way. > Updates could be provided on Web sites. If you rewrite the app > in Java, people could even play them in their browsers. People > would RAVE about the tool and would be PLEASED to ride their way > up the learning curve. System administrators could develop local > libraries as a first line of support. Administration and training > costs would plummet. This is a _stunning_ idea, and could go miles toward making the new platform, for two reasons. (1) It increases the degree to which we can sell old Mac users on the NeXT Way, thereby making it feasible for Apple to gut our GUI less severely than they otherwise would. And (2) it is the sort of drop-dead demonstration that might make frustrated users of other OS's take a second look at what we've got. Could you please try forwarding this to Avie, and perhaps even Steve himself? I think it's an idea that ought to be discussed up at the decision-making level as soon as possible, since the small effort needed to make it real is mostly organizational. The essential tools are already there! `It takes users a while to come |============================================ to grips with the intuitive way | Joshua Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu Windows works.' - B.Gates, 9/93 |============================================
From: jklein@freon.artificial.com (jon klein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cancel <32d537d5.0@news.hampshire.edu> Control: cancel <32d537d5.0@news.hampshire.edu> Date: 9 Jan 97 19:10:14 GMT Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Message-ID: <32d54296.0@news.hampshire.edu> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2]
From: nospam@spammers.suck.com (MT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to do POP mail? Date: 9 Jan 1997 20:09:42 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5b3ja6$nqp@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970109010540.2755A-100000@sdcc10.ucsd.edu> Enigma <llay@sdcc10.ucsd.edu> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm wondering how I might send/retrieve mail using POP in NeXT/OPENSTEP? > My ISP only allow me to use POP for retrieving mail. I found a couple of > Unix programs that can retrieve mail by POP, but how do I configure > NeXTMail/Pine/elm/whatever to put my POP account address instead of my local > made-up machine name when I send mail? > > Ideas and experiences appreciated... Grab PopOver from the archives (next-ftp.peak.org). It does the job perfectly... -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: nospam@spammers.suck.com (MT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: music writing programs? Date: 9 Jan 1997 20:05:43 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5b3j2n$nqp@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> References: <5at6oq$dr9@btmpjg.god.bel.alcatel.be> <5b0lsp$77l$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <5b1i89$97i@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: > On 01/08/97, Yves Pons wrote: > > There was also an App named I think Max which was made by the > > French Institute & laboratory Ircam. It could used a special card > > which used 4 DSP named Ariel. > > The second App is the musik kit made by the CCRMA. > > > Not quite -- the Ariel QuintProcessor (five DSPs) enabled extensions to the > NeXT's inherent DSP capabilities; MusicKit could take advantage of this it it > was there. > > Max ran on the ISPW (Ircam Signal Processing Workstation) -- a truly awesome > beast with, if I remember rightly, two i860s in addition to another 56k. Up > to three of these cards could be put into a Cube, and up to four Cubes joined > together, producing a staggering (for the time, and even for now) compute > power (1.92 GFlops?). Max was a programming language for combining abstract > DSP elements for real-time synthesis (there was also a GUI for it, called > Animal if I remember rightly). > > Corrections welcome. > IRCAM's Max is what eventually was bought by Opcode, right? If so... Max has its own GUI, which allows you to drag and drop DSP elements and connect them together by draging between them. You're able to create extreamely powerful signal processors graphically rather than by coding them by hand. Incidently, Max runs on regular old NeXT hardware as well. I don't think its in the public domain, but I've seen a version of it running at UCSD (David Jaffe is there now). The version I've seen doesn't handle MIDI events, however, because NEXTSTEP handles realtime events poorly, or something like that. With the Rhapsody, perhaps this won't be a problem? -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: serge.rossi@wanadoo.fr (Serge Rossi) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 21:30:36 +0100 Organization: Happiness is a computer called Macintosh :-) Distribution: inet Message-ID: <19970109213036289271@yellow-orl-4.wanadoo.fr> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de> <5b0vhc$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <1997010822404556583@yellow-orl-39.wanadoo.fr> <5b2mi2$7qh@white.koehntopp.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Kristian Köhntopp <KRIS@KOEHNTOPP.DE> écrivait : > "Can a PPC multiply 8 values and clip each individual result in > 1 cycle?" > > It can't. The question is: Should it? Multiplying 8 values at a time is 8 times faster only if you get these 8 values from the memory at the same time ! Of course, it can't. The memory is not 8 times faster :-) IMHO, even without MMX like functions, today's processors are very memory bound. This greatly reduces the interest of these SIMD instructions. > This is from the c't 1/97, page 233 (translation by me): > > begin grey box. > > MMX vs. PowerPC: sobering Very interesting ;-) -- Email : Serge.Rossi@wanadoo.fr ; Serge.Rossi@renault.fr Fidonet : 2:320/405.42 ; 2:320/109.42 First Class : Serge Rossi,Ellis Web : http://www.burpteam.home.ml.org/
From: bayko@borealis.cs.uregina.ca (John Bayko) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: RISC vs. CISC? Date: 9 Jan 1997 21:05:25 GMT Organization: University of Regina, Dept. of Computer Science Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5b3mil$jrc@sue.cc.uregina.ca> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <judas.0mwa@tomtec.abg.sub.org> <carol1-0701972248550001@17.219.103.211> <petrichE3oLqK.9Ln@netcom.com> In article <petrichE3oLqK.9Ln@netcom.com>, Loren Petrich <petrich@netcom.com> wrote: >* There are a large number of registers (32 in the case of the PowerPC). > >This helps avoid making a lot of memory accesses, since intermediate >results can often be stored in some register. A downside is that for a >function call (say), there are that many more values to be stored and >loaded. Parameters can be passed in registers, reducing memory accesses when calling functions (leaf functions may even be called with no saves at all). Some RISC processors (SPARC, AMD 29K, 80C166) also have register windows, eliminating register saves completely when calling functions. -- John Bayko (Tau). bayko@cs.uregina.ca http://www.cs.uregina.ca/~bayko
From: carloskessel@montreal.com.br (Carlos Kessel) Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 12:06:32 GMT Organization: MI - Montreal Informatica Message-ID: <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> Arnold Shore <ashore@dgs.dgsys.com> wrote: >Counter question: Why bother with Acrobat and PDF? ... >Arnold Shore >Annapolis, MD That's my feeling too. But I think the points of including a downloadable PDF file in a site would be: - Maintaining the original design - Including all images - Avoiding the wages of the WebMaster. However, I'm still curious about all this Acrobat hoopla. I know some big fans of PDF. .................................. Carlos Kessel Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Khoros for NextStep? Date: 9 Jan 1997 22:31:14 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b3rji$s76@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <5b2ha2$ko5@news.tuwien.ac.at> Cc: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at In <5b2ha2$ko5@news.tuwien.ac.at> Khanh P. Nguyen wrote: > Does such a thing exist? Yes, sorta. Years ago somebody from the Naval Research Lab compiled it for NeXT but it still used X-Windows. So if you can run X on your system, have black h/w and look at the NeXT & Khoros archive sites you might still find it. Hoping someday it will run native under McNeXT OS. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love, rlove@neosoft.com (local) MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (permanent) PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan M. Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadm Subject: Re: Retraining for Rhapsody with WatchMe.app Date: 9 Jan 1997 17:22:39 -0500 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5b3r3f$48t@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> References: <5b387f$t4r@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <5b3ef8$26v@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <5b3ef8$26v@news.acns.nwu.edu>, jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) wrote: > jdevlin@umich.edu wrote: > > SUGGESTION: The new Apple OS should come with an entire CDRom > > library of WatchMe cassettes on every conceivable topic. > This is a _stunning_ idea, and could go miles toward making the new > platform, > Could you please try forwarding this to Avie, and perhaps even Steve > himself? I'd like to point out that you can send suggestions to feedback@macos.apple.com. Somebody there _does_ read them, so I would imagine they would get forwarded to the appropriate people if they're any good. -- Nathan Urban | nurban@vt.edu | Undergrad {CS,Physics,Math} | Virginia Tech
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Printer Driver Date: 9 Jan 97 21:10:42 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AEFB0F54-BBB7D@207.147.62.218> References: <32D59554.BC7@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Jan 9, 1997 8:03 PM, Yosi Hoshen <mailto:jhoshen@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote: > I have a NeXT cube SW release 3.0 and a NeXT pronter. The NeXT coputer > is runing SAMBA. Connected to the Cube is a PC. I can only print from > the PC to the NeXT printer one page at the time. If I try to print > entire document e.g. MS Word the printer does not print the document > (unless I print it one page at a time) It gives a stack error. I have > tried several printer drivers but the results are the same. 1) Dump MS Word. That should cure many problems you may not even know you have. > > > Does any one has a suggestion on a possible driver or any other > solution. > > Thanks > -- > Joseph (Yosi) Hoshen jhoshen@postoffice.worldnet.att.net 2) You don't need the "postoffice." in the address.
From: tmtjoy@yc.ne.edu (Todd Mountjoy) Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 23:18:06 GMT Organization: Grand Island Online Message-ID: <32d57afb.1060931@news.yorkonline.net> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> On Thu, 09 Jan 1997 12:06:32 GMT, carloskessel@montreal.com.br (Carlos Kessel) wrote: >Arnold Shore <ashore@dgs.dgsys.com> wrote: >That's my feeling too. But I think the points of including a >downloadable PDF file in a site would be: >- Maintaining the original design >- Including all images >- Avoiding the wages of the WebMaster. I really like it simply because I can "Print" a web page with the PDF driver at web sites I like and then read it later "OFF LINE" as a portable document with all the images. The version I just purchased also works wonderful with all of my Windows applications and all I do is select the printer as a PDF file and Wham Bam I have a portable document, whether that be a MS-Word document, an Excel workbook or just about anything I could normally print. Acrobat is by far a superior product than the Envoy portable document system I got when I bought Wordperfect Pro Suite. Anyway, I think that more people have the Acrobat Reader installed and configured for their browsers than Envoy. (Something else, Envoy couldn't handle frames with pictures in MS-Word like Acrobat does... What you see is what you get with Acrobat) I got Acrobat 3.0 for $99 from MicroWarehouse by simply photocopying my first disk. I think this offer goes through February, and $99 sure beats $300. Todd Mountjoy Library Directory York College York NE 68467
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Games on NeXTstep (Was Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back!) Date: 9 Jan 1997 22:38:54 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5b3s1u$ptt@gaea.titan.org> References: <32BA667C.403A@sfbayrun.com> <59f2t1$ohl@youth.yth> <59oq37$q7l@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5a2g5h$hu7@gaea.titan.org> <32c5d7fe.257162@pbinews.pacbell.net> <32D0A342.3068@neosoft.com> Kevin Palmer <kpalmer@neosoft.com> wrote: > Jeff Dallacqua wrote: > > > > On 28 Dec 1996 06:53:37 GMT, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com > > wrote: > > > > >For those who don't know, Trilobyte used NeXTstep to create 7th Guest > > >and 11th Hour. Id used NeXTstep to create Doom and Quake. > > > > Weren't the video sequences for 7th Guest(and maybe 11th Hour) > > done with 3DStudio(although I guess this doesn't necessarily mean > > they didn't use NeXTstep for any of it)? > > -- I am almost positive that the images on 7th guest were done in > Alias|Wavefront Power Animator on the SGI. It was a while back when I > read the article. I have no idea what platform the artwork was done on. The engine was done on NeXTstep. -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: Eirik Mangseth <emangset@online.no> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:50:30 +0100 Organization: United Consultants A/S Message-ID: <32D58446.2FD4@online.no> References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se> <5aprft$af9@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit crobato@kuentos.guam.net wrote: > > In <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se>, froz@algonet.se (Mats Forssblad) writes: > >lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) wrote: > > > >>Robert Iacullo writes: > >>: jmiller wrote: > >>: > > >>: > If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: > >>: > They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) > >>: > They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? > > > >>: They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. > > > >> Where can I buy one? > >> Cheers.. > > > >Rick Bergman, VP/Marketing for Exponential Technolog says: > >"We expect to go from 533 megahertz up to as much as a thousand > >megahertz or a gigahertz." > >(http://www.newmedianews.com/110996/lo_exponential.html) > > > >By the way, how fast (sorry, how many mhz) is the fastest > >mainframe/any cpu? > > > > Way lower than this. I think about 300MHz. > > It does not matter. Mainframes are not about MHz, just as super computers are > not as well. They are about fail safe reliability. They are about > multitentacled, multprocessor monsters with lotsa processors running in > parallel, talking to each other through buses that zip gigabytes per sec. > > Rgds, > > Chris > > Famous People on the Day Windows 95 is Launched--- > Neil Armstrong---"One Small Fortune for Bill Gates, > One Giant Leap backward for Mankind." > President Roosevelt---"This date shall live in infamy." > *** crobato@kuentos.guam.net *** TKS for the Contributions. Not only that, they've got an I/O subsystem that runs in circles around any so-called server based on e.g. x86. Eirik
From: Yosi Hoshen <jhoshen@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Printer Driver Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 19:03:16 -0600 Organization: <Not Availabe> Message-ID: <32D59554.BC7@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a NeXT cube SW release 3.0 and a NeXT pronter. The NeXT coputer is runing SAMBA. Connected to the Cube is a PC. I can only print from the PC to the NeXT printer one page at the time. If I try to print entire document e.g. MS Word the printer does not print the document (unless I print it one page at a time) It gives a stack error. I have tried several printer drivers but the results are the same. Does any one has a suggestion on a possible driver or any other solution. Thanks -- Joseph (Yosi) Hoshen jhoshen@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (630) 369-0637 812 Shiloh Circle, Naperville, IL 60540 Work: (630) 979-4303, (630) 713-5398 (FAX), hoshen@lucent.com
From: jswitzer@aimnet.com (John Switzer) Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: 9 Jan 1997 15:53:56 -0800 Organization: Aimnet Corporation Message-ID: <5b40ek$fag@shell1.aimnet.com> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> In article <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br>, Carlos Kessel <carloskessel@montreal.com.br> wrote: >Arnold Shore <ashore@dgs.dgsys.com> wrote: > >>Counter question: Why bother with Acrobat and PDF? >... >>Arnold Shore >>Annapolis, MD > >That's my feeling too. But I think the points of including a >downloadable PDF file in a site would be: >- Maintaining the original design >- Including all images >- Avoiding the wages of the WebMaster. Don't forget that if you're using Framemaker 5, it's a heck of a lot easier to produce PDF than HTML - I just have to click a couple of buttons, print to PS, and distill. HTML is far from being this convenient. Also, if your customers will want to print the docs at any point, the PDF is superior to HTML. At least, that's the reason I'm giving for including on-line help in both PDF and HTML form - HTML is immediate, giving the customer the bare information they need, while PDF takes a little more time to deliver over the web but allows them to easily save a local copy and print it. Also, there are Acrobat's security features, but I'm not using those at the moment. -- John Switzer | "The camel has a mind of its own, a subtle and demented | psychosis as old as time and twice as huge: it is eating | my brain with a tea-spoon." - (favorable) review by jswitzer@aimnet.com | Charlie Stross of "Programming Perl" in The Perl Journal
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hancock Speech 1/5 Message-ID: <8CFC3C4.09B8000057.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 16:04:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple Chief Technology Officer Ellen Hancock Press Luncheon at Comdex November 19, 1996 Las Vegas Ellen Hancock, Chief Technology Officer Good morning. It's a great pleasure to be at Comdex--and especially to be here for the first time on behalf of Apple. Apple is famed for living in its own reality-distortion field. But coming to the company from a long career at IBM and National Semiconductor, I've had the advantage of an outside perspective. And that's an advantage I don't want to lose--even as I gain the inside perspective. So I'm here--not just to talk to you, but to HEAR from you as well. I want to leave plenty of time for the question-and-answer session. I truly value those exchanges. I learn from them about what's not clear or what's of greatest concern to you, and I want to provide as many answers as I can to your specific questions. The Beginning When I got to Apple, I discovered that there is, as most of you know, some remarkable and ground-breaking technology in Apple's laboratories. We give good demos. But, clearly, we need to become a lot more effective at delivering our technology to the marketplace and gaining its adoption. Not just within Apple's current market strongholds. But broadly, across the industry. I view my job as clearing the path to make that happen. And today I want to tell you how we're going about it. To begin with, I want to talk about the opportunities presented by the new trends in the industry today. I'll fill you in on the changes we're making at Apple to help us participate in these trends. I'm very clear that the company has to ruthlessly and relentlessly drive out the Not-Invented-Here syndrome. We need to begin working much more closely with alliances. And we have to develop the discipline to meet our commitments. A year from now I'd want us to be judged by two things: Were we open to new ideas? And did we deliver to customer expectations? In that regard, I want to update you on our progress toward announcing the roadmap for the MacOS. Third I want to lay out some of the specifics of our strategies to address the Enterprise market, to extend our lead in media production, to keep our hardware at the cutting edge. And, finally, I'll give you our perspective on the trend toward thinner clients, and show you two of our entries in this field. Looking Ahead Our goal is to achieve much broader adoption of our products and technologies. I believe that the current trends in the industry give Apple a better opportunity to accomplish this now than at any time since 1984, when Apple introduced the Macintosh. In fact, when you think about it the parallels between now and '84 are intriguing: The industry is dominated by a single vendor. Customers are locked in and frustrated with infrastructure, costs and lack of flexibility. And new technologies are arriving which hold the promise to fundamentally dismantle this model and change the direction of the industry. Indeed, it feels like we are, again, not so much at the end of an era, but at the start of a new one--and one in which, once again, Apple's innovation will play a key role. In many ways, I think 1997 may be a lot like 1984. You can see these trends all around you at the show this year: Look at the emerging new paradigm of open network computing based on the standards of the Internet and intranets. It's creating an environment that can integrate and assimilate innovations from many sources. Including Apple. Look at the tremendous interest and activity in lower-cost Network Computers- -rebalancing the client/server model to reduce costs of acquisition and support at the desktop. It's opening the way for innovative so-called, "thin" clients. Including those from Apple. Look at the growing dominance of digital media formats. It's enabling the convergence of entertainment, broadcasting, publishing, and computing. And in this trend, Apple is the clear leader. All of these trends create opportunities that play to Apple strengths. The task of our new management team, under Gil Amelio's leadership, is to move the company into position to actualize this potential. We're engaged in a transformation to build a new Apple that's much more in tune with the industry today. And I believe it will lead to a break-out strategy for Apple technology. We're working to take down the barriers between our Apple and the rest of the industry. A break-out strategy means that from here on at Apple, NIH -- "Not-Invented-Here" -- is dead. If we find the best answer outside the company, we'll bring it in. A break-out strategy means interoperability is a prerequisite. Building bridges to other platforms isn't the customer's job; it's ours. A break-out strategy means putting our full weight behind Open Standards and Internet protocols. We're working side-by-side with other industry leaders to cross-pollinate the best of our technologies with the best of theirs. But above all, a break- out strategy for Apple means getting very clear about the unique values that we bring to our customers and to the industry. We need to focus on those values and drive forward with relentless and rapid innovation... with products that arrive on schedule and with no compromise in quality. What I want you to know is that we are moving strongly in that direction now, and with deliberate SPEED. And what I mean by deliberate speed is that all the pieces may not come together as quickly as you want or need them to, but they will come together in a way that gets it RIGHT. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hancock Speech 2/5 Message-ID: <8CFC3C4.09B8000058.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 16:04:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 What's Up With Mac OS? I know you're most anxious to hear about our strategy for evolving the Mac OS, so let me get right into it. The last couple of months have churned up a lot of rumors and speculation in the media and on the 'Net about where we're headed. And with whom we might be traveling. I can only hope we get this much coverage when we actually make our announcement. And I promise you that will be by early 1997. I won't comment on the accuracy of any of the various rumors that are swirling around, but I would like to make one observation. Most of the stories and postings I've seen focus on just ONE of the options that we're considering. But you should know that not everyone that WE'RE talking to is talking to YOU. Let me be very clear that we have SEVERAL ways to go on this. We're evaluating options to either make or buy components of MacOS 8.0. I have several alternate product plans on my desk that all meet our customers' and developers' key requirements for our next generation operating system. All of the options I'm looking at will get us to a ROBUST, OPERATING SYSTEM with MEMORY PROTECTION and PREEMPTIVE MULTI-TASKING. I can tell you that, in the spirit of the new and open Apple, we ARE looking outside. There are some very attractive technologies out there that we are considering incorporating into MacOS 8. For example, it seems clear to me that any next-generation OS which doesn't integrate Java won't be around for very long. And clearly Java is something we have licensed in from Sun. But please be clear on this: Apple can deliver memory protection and preemptive multitasking in MacOS 8.0 with our own resources and the help of our industry partners. We will tell you at MacWorld San Francisco which path we're taking. And we'll show you--in detail--how this operating system strategy will involve and excite our customers and developer partners. What's Up With Middleware? What I'd like to do next is talk about the layer above the operating system-- what is known as middleware or bridgeware--and our plans here. It gives us a new approach to the enterprise. And it strengthens our lead in media production. We're committed to transforming Apple from a product-focused company to one that is focused on customers and focused on contributing its technology to the mainstream of the industry. So it isn't enough to take an inventory of cool technology from Apple labs, wrap a few slides around it and call that a strategy. In order for our strategy to really work for our customers, I believe it needs to meet three criteria: First, it needs to align with the most important customer and industry trends. There's very little argument that these are the Internet and multimedia. Second, it needs to supply distinctly superior value to the customer, creating new efficiencies, new opportunities, and, true to Apple's heritage, a strong sense of empowerment for the user. Third -- and this is a point that Apple too-often neglected in the past -- it needs to fit into an established, crowded, and growing technology space. Customers are not to throw out everything they've invested in and start over with new technology. Our new technology needs to interoperate with both legacy systems such as Windows, UNIX, and, of course, the current MacOS, as well as with new emerging standards and platforms such as Java. By looking at the whole information technology space and not simply our own proprietary systems, we can create opportunities for Apple technology that reach beyond the MacOS platform. We've done that successfully with QuickTime. And if you look around the show today you'll see we've done it again with FireWire -- the high-speed port which will provide bandwidth for advanced audio and video applications. Sony, Toshiba, Texas Instruments, and Yamaha as well as Apple -- are all showing products that incorporate FireWire. Going forward, you can look for a lot more development from Apple that is, as we like to say, "platform-agnostic." I believe that mapping our strategy to these trends creates an opportunity for Apple that is stronger than anything we've seen since the original Macintosh market breakthrough of desktop publishing. Let me tell you why. Ever since the Mac first appeared, it's been viewed as an alternative, maverick platform. Yes, people generally acknowledged that it was a milestone in human-interface, that it had a superior operating system. But it was a non- standard OS. Long before the first Mac rolled off the assembly line, the majority of the business market had already standardized on IBM compatibles and MS-DOS. The majority of the market concluded that changing platforms would be too disruptive, and they elected, instead, to accept the costs entailed in upgrading to Windows, Windows 95, and now, Windows NT. Where the Mac succeeded, it was by blazing new trails into areas that the early PCs couldn't handle: publishing, graphics, media production, and engineering. Many enterprise systems tolerated Macs in the art department and nowhere else. Why should that change now? Why should our outlook be brighter today? Because something is taking hold in the enterprise that represents a departure from the old model of client/server computing. It's an approach to network computing based on open Internet standards--a new architecture that offers more flexibility, new efficiencies, and new opportunities for creating, communicating, and collaborating. And in this new paradigm, the operating system on the client doesn't matter to the network. It only matters to the user. In this paradigm, the Mac is a full citizen. And Apple can be a major player. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hancock Speech 4/5 Message-ID: <8CFC3C4.09B800005A.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 16:04:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 HOT SAUCE One of our key technologies in Knowledge Management is known as HotSauce MCF, or MetaContent Format. This technology provides a standard way of describing information about information. MCF provides a way to work with the contents of multiple databases as though they we're all in one unified collection HotSauce, (formerly called Project X) is an early demo in the evolution of the MCF story. It provides a visual representation of data collections--such as sites on the World Wide Web, or the contents of your hard drive--and lets you navigate almost as if you're flying through them. But an even more compelling application of MCF is in allowing people to find information across multiple, and separate databases using a single query. Information Managers who have previewed this technology see it as a useful way to give corporate clients access to their company's information resources. Some of the technologies that Apple is working on with partners could redefine the concept of a "client." We are working today, for example, with a company in Germany that is using OpenDoc to create information access COMPONENTS that you can drop into a document. When you open the document, it automatically accesses a chosen database; the connection is already made. According to a Gartner Group report, knowledge management--especially OPENDOC COMPONENT SOLUTIONS--is one of Apple's major areas of differentiation. Windows can't touch this today. Obviously, MCF's ability to access the Internet or intranet to get unstructured, rich media in real time is also a compelling part of our Internet strategy--an example of our commitment to making rich media ubiquitous and usable on the Internet. Which brings me to our second key contribution to the new network architecture: we're extending our multimedia leadership through the QuickTime Media Layer, or QTML. QUICKTIME MEDIA LAYER In QTML, we're unifying our strongest multimedia technologies into a single architecture that spans from industrial-strength authoring and media production to low-cost delivery and playback vehicles. Apple's aim for QTML, and the rest of our multimedia efforts, is to expand both the creative range and the market reach of our customers in the media community. These include such fields as media-authoring, film, video, and music production, Internet-publishing and digital-playback. QTML is a software layer that comprises QuickTime, QuickTime VR, QuickDraw 3D, QuickTime Conferencing, sound, and the interactive authoring tools that enhance those products, such as Game Sprockets, HyperCard, Apple Media Tool, and AppleScript. It's implemented across MacOS, Windows, and UNIX. This week, for example, we're announcing QuickTime 2.5-Win for Windows. QTML is designed as an extensible media container architecture. Which means that it can embrace emerging standards for digital media such as MPEG II, HDTV, and Dolby Digital Surround. Our efforts with QTML are focused on solving two major problems our customers have raised over and over again: Problem one is the desire to AUTHOR ONCE, and play back EVERYWHERE: Developers in enterprises, the interactive marketplace and the digital video and audio market want to develop once and play back in multi-platform environments--Macintosh, Windows, Windows NT and even UNIX. Problem two is the need to REPURPOSE DIGITAL CONTENT: Developers also want to develop once for distribution over the Worldwide Web, on CD-ROM, and in professional digital video production environments. And they want to do that without having to cripple content features, or dilute the video. Solving problems like these, in a cross-platform architecture, can be a huge win for Apple and secure our place as the dominant vendor in this arena. Our goal with QTML is to ensure its adoption beyond the Mac platform. We're investing in making QTML both OS-agnostic and platform-agnostic. It's a major wedge for us in helping us break out of the Mac-only box. And it's working. One day last summer some 11,700 Windows users downloaded 32-bit QuickTime software for Windows. This is the kind of statistic that has that strange quality of so much that we do these days.... that is, of being simultaneously encouraging and worrisome. We know that we must be cross-platform to survive... but you may be wondering just what the PROFIT model is in all of this. On one level, as the originator of technology standards, we have the absolute advantage in terms of optimizing our platform for the multimedia activities they enable. On another we should be able to increase the revenue streams for Apple. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hancock Speech 3/5 Message-ID: <8CFC3C4.09B8000059.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 16:04:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Many of you will remember a newspaper cartoon in the early days of Internet ramp-up. Two dogs were sitting at a personal computer typing--and one dog turns to the other and says, smiling: "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog". It's the same on the Macintosh. On the Internet nobody knows you're a Mac. This has been the pattern of the Internet since its inception. And now, with the prominence of the World Wide Web this paradigm for an open network architecture is visible everywhere. The Web has shown us all how powerful a truly agnostic network can be. The Web mixes servers running UNIX, the MacOS, and Windows NT. And it mixes clients on Mac, Windows, Newton, and now, even television sets and game consoles. (By the way, 64% of the pages on the Web are created on Macintosh. And Macs clients are doing more than 20% of the browsing--that's over twice what you might predict from our installed base.) The choice for corporate networks is between a proprietary client/server architecture and the new intranet-based architecture. The proprietary system is complex to develop for, and expensive to deploy. Customers are locked in. And the benefits remain elusive. The open system offers rapid development, it's less costly to deploy, and innovation is supported by a broad alliance of industry leaders. In the new environment, Apple clients have full citizenship. In the new environment, Apple middleware can benefit customers of all platforms and operating systems. In the new environment, Apple can forge a winning technology strategy. Let's take a look at what we're doing to build that strategy. APPLE ALLIANCES In ending Apple's go-it-alone, not-invented-here approach to innovation, we've stepped up our work with other industry leaders. Case in point: our alliance with Sun Microsystems. Sun's Java language is one of the building blocks of the new network architecture. And we're committed to integrating Java into the Mac environment. Earlier this month we shipped our first Beta Version of the Mac OS Runtime for Java. The Apple/Sun announcement is an enterprise-focused agreement on how two major players will work together to solve our customers' real-world problems. Multimedia technology is one component of the alliance. In this area SUN wins, because customers can take advantage of QuickTime capabilities in Java applets and applications, as JavaSoft enhances the JavaMedia APIs and libraries to fully support QuickTime. APPLE wins, because we can employ Java in an equally compelling fashion, and meanwhile, QuickTime's position in the industry is expanded and strengthened. We're also working with Sun on a library of multimedia routines known as MediaLib. It's an exciting project that I expect will keep Apple in the forefront of multimedia authoring. I'll tell you more about it when I discuss our strategy for interactive media. The Sun alliance also has major implications in the area of Internet/intranet application development. Our two companies are working to ensure interoperability between Java Beans and OpenDoc. This cooperation is expected to result in a full suite of component development tools. Again, both companies win, and the COMPONENT SOFTWARE proposition is strengthened. OpenDoc offers Java developers additional functionality such as document- persistent storage, uniform data transfer, and embedding and layout capabilities to scale Java Beans into component-based solutions. And Java provides OpenDoc developers with platform independence, offering high portability of components. The Sun alliance has another important facet on the HARDWARE side. Under the agreement, Apple customers will be able to tap into powerful Solaris-based enterprise environments from Macintosh clients. Sun enterprise customers will be able to interact with Macintosh clients across Solaris server-based intranets. And Sun is just one of the technology leaders we're working with. We're also working with Netscape to enhance the quality of multimedia, video-based images, and digital music in Netscape Navigator. And to bring Navigator into Apple's Cyberdog Internet client. --With Silicon Graphics to accelerate the development of "digital studios" for feature film, animation, and broadcast video. --With Netscape and Silicon Graphics together to develop a new file format based on Apple's 3D metafile format. --And with, IBM, Netscape, Oracle Corp., and Sun to announce guidelines for making low-cost, easy-to-use network computing devices. Together with our partners, it's our goal to provide rapid innovation and clear customer value. And perhaps more important, and in the spirit of the next 1984, Apple plans to regain its place of relevance and reliability in the marketplace. APPLE TECHNOLOGIES By looking beyond the MacOS platform to the industry at large, we're finding major opportunities where Apple technology can play. I'll give you two examples. The first is an area we call Knowledge Management. From an information management perspective, it means harvesting greater value from your investments in data. From a user perspective, it means finding what you want to know without knowing where the information is hidden. Knowledge Management is the art of turning vast stores of data into useful, relevant information. It has tremendous potential in the enterprise. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hancock Speech 5/5 Message-ID: <8CFC3C4.09B800005B.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 16:04:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 So let me tell you some of the things we're doing to ensure a performance edge for Apple in multimedia. First, we're working with Phillips Semiconductor to accelerate QuickTime functions for the Trimedia TM-1 media processor. The PowerPC combined with TriMedia will provide the the combination of accelerated-performance and high- quality that Apple customers require. Second, as I mentioned in conjunction with our alliance with Sun Microsystems, we're working on a library of common low-level multimedia functions called MediaLib. Writing to MediaLib will not only make it easier for developers to create multimedia applications, it will also make it easier for those applications to be created for a variety of microprocessors and coprocessors. MediaLib can make it easier to port applications across platforms. Our goal is to ensure that developers have access to the Mac Market with the smallest possible incremental development costs. Our work in making our QTML standards work across platforms is already bringing new players to the Macintosh platform. Vertigo is a classic example. As you know, Vertigo is a huge player in the 3D hardware arena that is now available on Macintosh, as a result of cross-platform QuickDraw 3D 1.5. In this case the entire debate about developing for multiple platforms was preempted. While each of the initiatives I've just described will have its own revenue model, they also contribute indirectly to our revenues, by helping to make our operating system and hardware lines more appealing and more acceptable. With Apple defining the most comprehensive architecture for digital media, customers will certainly want to consider the hardware systems we offer for their own production and development. OPEN NETWORKS With Apple working actively alongside other key players in the industry, customers will come to see us an equal citizen of open networks. The open, interoperable network environment has clear implications for our hardware designs and our OS. We have to make them better citizens in mixed environments. I am committed, for example, to making the Mac OS more INTEROPERABLE in heterogeneous environments that include Windows NT. What exactly do I mean by interoperable? I mean delivering the performance enhancements that Apple customers in NT environments are asking for. Like better file and print capabilities. Domain name services. PPTP, and communications over IP. AND, for some of our education and publishing customers especially, it means an NT-capable server from Apple. PC COMPATIBILITY We're advancing the PC Compatibility Card, for users who want Windows support. This solution combines a Pentium-based computer in the same box as the PowerPC-based MacOS computer. It provides full cut-and-paste interoperability between the two environments. We're also building stronger interoperability features into the Operating System. And next year, when Apple and other vendors introduce models based on the PowerPC Common Hardware Reference Platform--popularly known as CHRP--the interoperability story gets even better. For example, customers can choose to run NT if they want to, on products like Viper, Motorola's CHRP system due out in April. Our attention to interoperability across the board will make MacOS systems more appealing and acceptable in corporate environments. But it's clear that not every worker in an organization needs the full capabilities of a production workstation. In many cases, companies have been over-investing in client-side hardware. Which leads to the third important trend that is so much in evidence here at Comdex. And that's why there has been so much attention in the last few weeks to a strategy that rebalances the role of the client and server. NETWORK COMPUTING More than a year ago, Larry Ellison of Oracle, created a stir when he proposed the NC, or Network Computer. Over the past three weeks we've seen announcements from Microprocessor companies, software companies, and hardware manufacturers all jumping into the ring with some variation of the theme. Apple, as I've mentioned joined with IBM, Netscape, Oracle Corp., and Sun in proposing the standards for the Network Computer. We firmly believe its an idea whose time is coming. But we also believe that the principle of rebalancing the client/server model goes beyond the particulars of the NC. Apple announced two products last month that extend the principle of thinner clients into a new realm. They're both designed as communication devices. They're both designed to work with networks or desktop computers (either Windows or Mac). And they're both designed to be lower-cost alternatives to a full-scale desktop or laptop computer. But unlike the NC, these products are not dependent on the network for functionality. They're portable devices that provide basic productivity applications even in stand-alone mode. They both represent principles that I believe represent the best of the new Apple. Customer focus. Superior user value. And an artful approach to product design that creates products that delight our users. But beyond those values they also demonstrate careful attention to interoperability with legacy systems. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: mckinnon@tezcat.com (Chuck McKinnon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadm Subject: Re: Retraining for Rhapsody with WatchMe.app Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 23:44:25 -0600 Organization: Satan's Servers of Process Message-ID: <mckinnon-0901972344260001@mckinnon.tezcat.com> References: <5b387f$t4r@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <5b3ef8$26v@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5b3r3f$48t@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> In article <5b3r3f$48t@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>, nurban@vt.edu wrote: >In article <5b3ef8$26v@news.acns.nwu.edu>, jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) wrote: > >> jdevlin@umich.edu wrote: > >> > SUGGESTION: The new Apple OS should come with an entire CDRom >> > library of WatchMe cassettes on every conceivable topic. > >> This is a _stunning_ idea, and could go miles toward making the new >> platform, > >> Could you please try forwarding this to Avie, and perhaps even Steve >> himself? > >I'd like to point out that you can send suggestions to >feedback@macos.apple.com. Somebody there _does_ read them, so I would leadership@apple.com also lets you whisper in Gil's ear. -- -- Chuck McKinnon + mckinnon@tezcat.com --------------------------------------------------- Chicago Municipal Code Section 4-24-140: "No domestic animals, except _cats_, shall be permitted in a bakery or place where flour or meal is stored in connection therewith, and suitable provisions shall be made to prevent nuisances from the presence of cats."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701092058.MAA22190@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 15:58:27 -0500 Subject: mimencode on NeXTStep? Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Source code is available here: ftp://thumper.bellcore.com/pub/nsb/mm2.7.tar.Z but building fails on my NeXT. I was wondering if anyone else had munged it. If so, please let me know TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-)
From: vision@halcyon.com (Andy Kriger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Renderman and Openstep 4.0 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 05:52:55 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <5b4ld1$2qo@news1.halcyon.com> is Renderman included in Openstep (specifically the WinNT verion)?
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Khoros for NextStep? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 02:28:40 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <jbf-ya023580001001970228400001@news.tiac.net> References: <5b2ha2$ko5@news.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5b2ha2$ko5@news.tuwien.ac.at>, knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at wrote: > Does such a thing exist? A couple of years ago I got it running on 3.3 for 68K, but it wasn't very stable. It will take you a while, but you'll learn something about building multi-OS/platform packages. (Not sure whether it's a good or bad learning experience, but I sure developed respect for folks who can pull it off.) You need an X Windows package - Mouse-X on black is free, don't know of a free NS Intel version. Mouse-X seemed to run about as fast as the commercial stuff. Then you have to get a Fortran compiler - or use f2c, which worked for me, once I understood how to invoke the dual libraries in cc. There is at least one missing function in f2c, which you must replace. You also have to track down the Fortran files, compile them, and remove references to them from the makefiles. Finally, you edit various configuration files, wondering about what those flags do (and there are errors in the embedded advice re NeXTStep, which you want to avoid), and you type "make". Hours later, you check the log and fix the bugs, trash the .o files, and type "make" again. Two or three days later, you cry "eureka", launch the app, and view some neat stuff. If you can figure out the file suffixes Khoros relies on (never could find a file that defined them). The real problem is that a make begins by building the dependency portion of the makefile, which takes forever and is quite useless since the NeXT architecture hack breaks the logic. And that's why you have to trash each failed build. The system, as a whole, is far to complex to build by hand. You'll always be missing some necessary file. It was grim enough, and unrewarding enough, that I never even bothered to download release 2, though release 1 was fun to play with (till it inevitably crashed). I posted a recipe to the Khoros Group, but I dumped it later. I learned enough to justify the time spent (since someone else paid for it), but I'd buy a commercial alternative if I really needed it. Hey! Maybe someone else has ported it? Ask in comp.soft-sys.khoros and look on their FTP site (if one still exists). If you find one, and it works, let me know! Barney
From: batmon@abico.com.tw (Mon-Sen Yang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to do the bakup with EXABYTE Model 8500 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:25:44 GMT Organization: DCI HiNet Message-ID: <32d60aeb.25351603@netnews.hinet.net> Hi all, We have just find a EXABYTE Model 8500 SCSI Backup device in our office, and would like to use it to backup NeXT Server. I buy a new 2GB 8mm DAT tape which will insert to the EXABYTE backup system, and would like to use it for backup. Can anybody tell me how to write out the "dump" command on the NeXT to do the full backup? In addition, if I would like to continue use the same tape (don't rewind after the full backup) and make another backup just backup users' information, users home directories' data, and directories' sturcture, then how should I write the "dump" command? And how to write the command to restore the data? If there is any good very easily understand refence about how to do the backup, please let me know too. Thank you. Best Regards, ·¨©s¾Ë¡]batmon¡^ batmon@abico.com.tw Ability Enterprise Co., Ltd. Part of ABiCO Group
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Renderman and Openstep 4.0 Date: 10 Jan 1997 08:50:29 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5b4vsl$5lc$3@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <5b4ld1$2qo@news1.halcyon.com> vision@halcyon.com (Andy Kriger) wrote: > is Renderman included in Openstep (specifically the WinNT verion)? No. The RenderMan API is not part of the OpenStep specification. However, OpenStep _for Mach_ still contains prman, shader compiler and QuickRenderMan, so you can process RIB files and run old 3.x applications which make use of RenderMan. There will be replacements for RenderMan that also should work with OpenStep on NT. Look at http://www.gnustep.org/G3DKit/G3DKit.html for more information. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MouseX ofter freezes -- help Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 02:38:05 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023580001001970238050001@news.tiac.net> References: <32d537d5.0@news.hampshire.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <32d537d5.0@news.hampshire.edu>, jklein@freon.artificial.com (jon klein) wrote: > Does anybody know of either a solution, or an email address to send bugs > or questions? Thanks! I can't say I ever had this problem with my Khoros port (see other post in this group), but that was long ago and memory fails. The problem is that Mouse-X is now several years old and the author has probably moved on to other things. I think it is a waste of time to fuss over a port like this on a $300-600 machine, when there are $300 machines (any old Quadra or 486) which can run a cheap commercial port. Barney
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701092218.OAA02392@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 17:18:27 -0500 Subject: Mail.app -- One reason NeXTStep is such a great OS Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Here's one example of why I love NeXTStep. Yeah I know this should be in the advocasy group, but I don't care to start a whole flame war, just a comment. I use a /bin/sh script to run 'sendmail' on another machine rather than my own (don't ask me why.... or do, but do it in email). I happened to see (in a process listing '/bin/ps') that one of the processes seem to be stuck. I figured out what message it was, and was getting ready to resend it. Then I thought to myself "I should kill that old process" so I went in and ran "kill -9" to the PID. I expected that the process would just die off. BUT NO! Mail.app brought *back* the Compose window with the entire message intact and gave me a panel telling me that it couldn't be delivered. Isn't that cool? Anyway, I thought it was a great example of NeXTStep's wonderfulness TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701091833.KAA03984@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 9f1e0d51b1ac207577e0af085d5197cc - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 13:33:01 -0500 Subject: Re: How can I change the icon and default link of a document. Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 9f1e0d51b1ac207577e0af085d5197cc - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: edward_xu@vos.stratus.com (Edward Xu) Original Date: 9 Jan 1997 06:24:41 GMT Message-ID: 9f1e0d51b1ac207577e0af085d5197cc - > I just installed Movie3.0. This software changed the icons of all > my .txt and .gif files and link these files to it. Every time I > double click on gif file, Movie3.0 was triggered, although > ImageViewer should be triggered. Anyone knows how can I change the > icons back (Of cause, restore the link of.txt file with Edit and > .gif with ImageViewer). Thanks. Select a .txt file and do "command-3" from the WM. That should offer to change it to Edit.app. The author(s) of Movie3.0 should really have known better TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701100110.RAA25126@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 20:09:53 -0500 Subject: Does GateKeeper work with PPP 2.3 Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary I'm thinking of trying the DOD part of GateKeeper. 1) how hard is it to setup? 2) does it work with PPP 2.3? TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701100300.TAA24917@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 22:00:21 -0500 Subject: Help: anyone who is using Dial On Demand with GateKeeper Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary I'm trying to get DOD working, but I've had no luck. Anyone feel like giving advice? TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-)
From: t21@ix.netcom.com (Stephan Schaem) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 00:39:47 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5b4urd$hiv@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de> <5b0vhc$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <1997010822404556583@yellow-orl-39.wanadoo.fr> <5b2mi2$7qh@white.koehntopp.de> <19970109213036289271@yellow-orl-4.wanadoo.fr> In article <19970109213036289271@yellow-orl-4.wanadoo.fr>, serge.rossi@wanadoo.fr (Serge Rossi) wrote: >Kristian Köhntopp <KRIS@KOEHNTOPP.DE> écrivait : > >> "Can a PPC multiply 8 values and clip each individual result in >> 1 cycle?" >> >> It can't. The question is: Should it? > >Multiplying 8 values at a time is 8 times faster only if you get these 8 >values from the memory at the same time ! Of course, it can't. The >memory is not 8 times faster :-) Its not 8 time faster, but 8 load + 8 mul + cliping + 8 store is longer then a load + cliped mul + store . > >IMHO, even without MMX like functions, today's processors are very >memory bound. This greatly reduces the interest of these SIMD >instructions. > Yes, thats why you want to run at bandwidth speed. And for complex operation where 8 cliped mul are necesary per memory access having it done in parallel is not waisted power. Stephan
From: vhs@nextone.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 10 Jan 1997 08:06:35 GMT Organization: Bull AG, Langen Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5b4tab$189@www.langen.bull.de> References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se> <5aprft$af9@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> <32D58446.2FD4@online.no> Cc: emangset@online.no In <32D58446.2FD4@online.no> Eirik Mangseth wrote: > crobato@kuentos.guam.net wrote: [...] > > >By the way, how fast (sorry, how many mhz) is the fastest > > >mainframe/any cpu? > > > > > > > Way lower than this. I think about 300MHz. [...] DEC has been shipping 500 MHz Alpha CPUs for some time now. Check out the CPU table at: http://infopad.eecs.berkeley.edu/CIC/summary/local/ Volker
From: t21@ix.netcom.com (Stephan Schaem) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 00:59:14 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5b4vvo$hiv@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de> <5b0vhc$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <1997010822404556583@yellow-orl-39.wanadoo.fr> In7 article <1997010822404556583@yellow-orl-39.wanadoo.fr>, serge.rossi@wanadoo.fr (Serge Rossi) wrote: >Stephan Schaem <t21@ix.netcom.com> écrivait : > >> Not broken... MMX is for 'integer' work, and the x86 is not that horrible >> for integer work... what MMX do is work with data array, and I dont think >> any CPU untill very recently offer this. can a PPC multiply 8 value and clip >> each individual result in 1 cycle? > >Can a Pentium MMX access 8 values in memory in 1 cycle ? No ! > >And there is few common programs who need this kind of integer work. > The all idea behind the mmx instruction is to process by group. This happen often with gfx data, audio stream, and alot of other form of 1d/2d array >MMX will be very interesting for games ! > And alot more... I guess some poeple have more 'imagination' then other. Stephan
From: dozer@netwizards.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: would you be my friend? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:03:32 Message-ID: <5b50ki$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Hello, I'm 14 years old and I think I may be a gay. I'm looking for some support and friendship with a older male age 18-40. Please email if you can help.
From: root (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT help needed Date: 10 Jan 1997 04:09:11 GMT Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <5b4fd7$oq5@taurus.adnc.com> References: <spdwell-0601972321190001@adnline24077.adnc.com> Cc: spdwell@adnc.com In <spdwell-0601972321190001@adnline24077.adnc.com> spdwell@adnc.com wrote: > I have a NeXT Cube with 3.2 in it. I need help telling this > machine that in serial port A is a modem. How do I set up PPP? I'm > using a 14.4 Practical Peripherals modem and a properly modified cable. > Please help, send any information to > ..............cward@adnc.com.............cward@adnc.com............cward@adnc.com............cward@adnc.com................... > I am on the internet with a Next! How do I setup outgoing mail? I can do everything but send mail out...
From: froz@algonet.se (Mats Forssblad) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:24:48 GMT Organization: AlgoNet Public Access Node, Stockholm Message-ID: <5b55du$nuq@epimetheus.algonet.se> References: <32BA667C.403A@sfbayrun.com> <59eoku$eih@mica.netsync.net> NNTP-Posting-User: b7fe697fc47f6ef7093c87732e2a5b740 jecobb@netsync.net (Justin Cobb) wrote: >Thomas Vincent (info@sfbayrun.com) wrote: >: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back, at Apple. >: >: To see what I am talking about, check out this LA TIMES article: >: http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/BUSINESS/t000111043.html >That article was promising and encouraging... >If the new MacOS has even half the advantages of Next, I may just have to >start taking it seriously again ;) There seems to be a uniform optimism about this project. I hate to make anyone disappointed, but I have a hunch they are going to f... mess it all up. We do not know that what is going to be produced is a Next that can, eventually, run old Mac binaries, do we? By the way, I got curious about the Next for pc, so I went to their web-page to see what the os costs. I could not find any information. So, with help of dejanews I found out that there IS no price right now, but it DID cost $ 895. Now, that IS STOOPID. No wonder it is not commercially popular. IF such an expensive OS is actually going to get integrated with an os that most people regard as free (even if it, actually is not, but few notice that there is a price), that is going to produce some...what shall we call it...interesting demand/price effects on the NextStep os right now, no?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dozer@netwizards.net Subject: cmsg cancel <5b50ki$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Control: cancel <5b50ki$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5b50ki$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Followup-to: junk References: <5b50ki$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:03:32 Spam-cancel: "would you be my friend?"
From: mandtbac@news.abo.fi (Mats Andtbacka) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy Date: 10 Jan 1997 11:23:59 GMT Organization: Unorganized Usenet Postings UnInc. Distribution: comp Message-ID: <5b58sf$ss0@josie.abo.fi> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <5asvpa$mjo@white.koehntopp.de> <5b0vhc$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> Stephan Schaem, in <5b0vhc$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com>: [...] > Not broken... MMX is for 'integer' work, and the x86 is not that horrible > for integer work... what MMX do is work with data array, and I dont think > any CPU untill very recently offer this. some did. vector processing is not a new idea, just fairly special- purpose and therefore limited market; but there have been entire coprocessors designed to do vector mathemathics, since a long time. the VAXen have such designs, just for one. what i'd like to see is MMX done right: off the main CPU and onto a coprocessor, call it a 587 or 687 if you will, then expanded to a full range of decent vector maths operations, that could run parallel to the FPU on the main wafer. *that* might be interesting. [...] >Everyone knows Mac/Apple are terrible at making computer... "everyone"? not me. all i really know about Apple hardware, is that they're awfully good at keeping it proprietary, closed and secret. whether it's actually *good*, i dunno. seems to work decently, though. they did PnP right, from the start. not that that's a big deal, they're hardly the only ones who managed that. -- "...it's all wrong but it's alright..." -- Clapton
From: jzinn@michele.math.tamu.edu (Joel Zinn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica 2.0 on 4.0 Date: 10 Jan 1997 13:44:16 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5b5h3g$md7@news.tamu.edu> Has anyone been able to use Mathematica 2.0 on OpenStep 4.0? Any help would be appreciated. Joel
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: PageChoice Date: 10 Jan 1997 14:12:45 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5b5iot$bft@bignews.shef.ac.uk> In another thread, long ago, I mentioned the existence of an application called "PageChoice" which, given a PostScript file, will allow you to print out left or right pages, duplex etc. It's old (1992), so currently only runs on NeXT hardware, however given a bit of encouragement, the author sounds willing to update it (it needs a bit of polishing) and rerelease it (*)). The cost on this side of the pond will be around 20 pounds ($US30)... assuming a small market! :-) Could anyone who would be interested in this please let me know, and I'll let him know the market opinion. Best wishes, mmalc. (*) A limited time demo should be available soon -- more details later. --
From: jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net (The Rev. James David Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to get libInterceptor_s.A.shlib? Date: 10 Jan 1997 15:58:08 GMT Organization: JLC-net, Milford NH Message-ID: <5b5oug$5ct@mozart.jlc.net> Hi All, I'm trying to get DoomII to run on my TurboColor station running User NS 3.2. Problem is, according to the instructions at OMINGROUP.com: >ƒ You need to have a /usr/shlib/libInterceptor_s.A.shlib with a >version number of 20. How do I get this, as I dont have it on my machine? Is it possible without buying the Dev. tools as well? Any inpput would sure be appreciated. PS. Yeah, I know Doom is strange game for someone in my line of work to like, but hey, it keeps my parishoners safe. -- The Rev. James David Meacham First Unitarian Congregational Society of Wilton Center, NH e-mail:jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net 603-654-9518 (Church) 603-654-9590(Home) 603-654-2248(fax) Church Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/index.html Personal Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/jameshome.html
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT help needed Date: 10 Jan 1997 11:30:38 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5b598u$rqi@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <spdwell-0601972321190001@adnline24077.adnc.com> <5b4fd7$oq5@taurus.adnc.com> Cc: root In <5b4fd7$oq5@taurus.adnc.com> Operator wrote: > In <spdwell-0601972321190001@adnline24077.adnc.com> spdwell@adnc.com wrote: > > I have a NeXT Cube with 3.2 in it. I need help telling this > > machine that in serial port A is a modem. How do I set up PPP? I'm > > using a 14.4 Practical Peripherals modem and a properly modified cable. > > Please help, send any information to ..............cward@adnc.com.............cward@adnc.com............cward@adnc.com............cward@adnc.com................... > > > I am on the internet with a Next! > How do I setup outgoing mail? > I can do everything but send mail out... > NEXTSTEP 3.x installs for some reason with sendmail in a default client mode. It reads: # ls -l /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 20 Oct 17 1995 /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf -> sendmail.subsidiary.cf@ If you have a stand-alone machine, change it this way: # cd /etc/sendmail # rm sendmail.cf # ln -s sendmail.mailhost.cf sendmail.cf -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: jecobb@netsync.net (Justin Cobb) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Games on NeXTstep (Was Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back!) Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 10 Jan 1997 15:46:31 GMT Organization: Netsync Internet Services Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5b5o8n$8q9@mica.netsync.net> References: <32BA667C.403A@sfbayrun.com> <59f2t1$ohl@youth.yth> <59oq37$q7l@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5a2g5h$hu7@gaea.titan.org> <32c5d7fe.257162@pbinews.pacbell.net> <32D0A342.3068@neosoft.com> <5b3s1u$ptt@gaea.titan.org> andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: : Kevin Palmer <kpalmer@neosoft.com> wrote: : > Jeff Dallacqua wrote: : > > : > > On 28 Dec 1996 06:53:37 GMT, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com : > > wrote: : > > : > > >For those who don't know, Trilobyte used NeXTstep to create 7th Guest : > > >and 11th Hour. Id used NeXTstep to create Doom and Quake. : > > : > > Weren't the video sequences for 7th Guest(and maybe 11th Hour) : > > done with 3DStudio(although I guess this doesn't necessarily mean : > > they didn't use NeXTstep for any of it)? : > : > -- I am almost positive that the images on 7th guest were done in : > Alias|Wavefront Power Animator on the SGI. It was a while back when I : > read the article. : : I have no idea what platform the artwork was done on. : The engine was done on NeXTstep. People are gonna hate me for this one, But the artwork was done on Amigas, using Imagine3d.. at least for 7th guest they were, for 11th hour i believe 3d studio on PC's was used. -- __________________________________________________________ _____ __ __ _____ __ __ ___ ___ || ||_ | ||\ | |_ | | || | | | | | ||__||__| |__||__|__| | || \| |__|__|__||__| | | |__ |__||__||__| ========================================================== - - Homepage: http://www.netsync.net/users/jecobb - - - - - jecobb@acsu.buffalo.edu & jecobb@netsync.net - - - __________________________________________________________
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <587851299369@digifix.com> Date: 10 Jan 1997 16:42:13 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <475852914532@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Don Lancaster <don@tinaja.com> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Embedding URL's in original source documents Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:03:22 -0700 Organization: Synergetics Message-ID: <32D6765A.1F75@tinaja.com> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> <5b40ek$fag@shell1.aimnet.com> <01bbff15$28279760$979479ce@farley.fortesystems.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've done a tutorial and source code on how to pre-embed Acrobat URL links into your original source textfiles. These files can be found on the PostScript library shelf of www.tinaja.com
From: "Mike Farley" <farleyma@fortesystems.com> Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> <5b40ek$fag@shell1.aimnet.com> Organization: Forte Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <01bbff15$28279760$979479ce@farley.fortesystems.com> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:49:15 -0800 FYI, HTML was not meant to provide WYSIWYG documents. It was meant to be a fast representation of information. If you want WYSIWYG format your best bet is to use a document management software. Just a thought. -- Thanks, Mike Farley Systems Engineer Forte Systems, Inc. E-Mail: farleyma@fortesystems.com John Switzer <jswitzer@aimnet.com> wrote in article <5b40ek$fag@shell1.aimnet.com>... > In article <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br>, > Carlos Kessel <carloskessel@montreal.com.br> wrote: > >Arnold Shore <ashore@dgs.dgsys.com> wrote: > > > >>Counter question: Why bother with Acrobat and PDF? > >... > >>Arnold Shore > >>Annapolis, MD > > > >That's my feeling too. But I think the points of including a > >downloadable PDF file in a site would be: > >- Maintaining the original design > >- Including all images > >- Avoiding the wages of the WebMaster. > > Don't forget that if you're using Framemaker 5, it's a heck of a lot > easier to produce PDF than HTML - I just have to click a couple of buttons, > print to PS, and distill. HTML is far from being this convenient. > > Also, if your customers will want to print the docs at any point, the PDF > is superior to HTML. At least, that's the reason I'm giving for including > on-line help in both PDF and HTML form - HTML is immediate, giving the > customer the bare information they need, while PDF takes a little more time > to deliver over the web but allows them to easily save a local copy and print > it. > > Also, there are Acrobat's security features, but I'm not using those at the > moment. > -- > John Switzer | "The camel has a mind of its own, a subtle and demented > | psychosis as old as time and twice as huge: it is eating > | my brain with a tea-spoon." - (favorable) review by > jswitzer@aimnet.com | Charlie Stross of "Programming Perl" in The Perl Journal > >
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT help needed Date: 10 Jan 1997 17:09:45 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b5t4p$fv9@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <spdwell-0601972321190001@adnline24077.adnc.com> <5b4fd7$oq5@taurus.adnc.com> <5b598u$rqi@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: > > NEXTSTEP 3.x installs for some reason with sendmail in a default client mode. It > reads: > # ls -l /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 20 Oct 17 1995 /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf -> > sendmail.subsidiary.cf@ > > If you have a stand-alone machine, change it this way: > # cd /etc/sendmail > # rm sendmail.cf > # ln -s sendmail.mailhost.cf sendmail.cf While this may work, the locations/sendmail sendmail.cf value is what determines which sendmail configuration file is used. If the value of sendmail.cf is /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf, then the above will work. But if the value is actually one of the real sendmail configuration files (/etc/sendmail.cf is a link as pointed out), then changing the sendmail.cf link will have no effect. I don't know what the value of sendmail.cf is for a standalone system. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: "David Every" <dke@adnc.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 10 Jan 97 07:22:45 +0000 Organization: adnc.com Distribution: inet Message-ID: <AEFB9EC9-369E0@207.158.13.84> References: <5b11c5$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.os.ms-windows, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.amiga.advocacy, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.mac.advocacy, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.unix.advocacy, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.soft-sys.nextstep > >You have it exactly backwards. CISC instruction sets are more complex > >and require more decode logic. This makes it harder decompose the > >instruction stream into independant pieces that can be dispatched > >to seperate execution units. Stephan Schaem <t21@ix.netcom.com> > Risc need bigger cache, faster instruction fecth to execute the same > logic. Code creep on RISC seems to be about 10-20% in most cases... however CISC machines (like the P6) also demand aligned instructions and data to get their best performance - which translates to code (data) creep. I am not sure which is worse at this point. Instructions do not need to be faster - that is a seperate issue all together. In many cases the opposite is proving to be true - with RISC machines (604e) beating the CISC-RISC hybrids (like PPro) eventhough the later has a larger and faster cache and a lot more circuitry. So you seem to be wrong in practice. > >As chip integration increases, more execution units can be added > >which RISC can take advantage of in a more direct fashion. (There > >are fewer dependancies between instructions, etc) > > And need more bandwidth and faster/bigger cache. BOTH need that - and PPro needs much more and faster than PPC to get the same results - so it seems you have this backwards. > Having fixed size > instruction is great, but this do not stop you from having more complex > instruction doing more per instruction. Sure you could do more per instruction on CISC - but each instruction was slower and could stall the pipe - resulting in MUCH slowing performance than just doing it the RISC way. So you save 10% in memory - and lose 40% in die size to support CISC, and lose 40% in performance - not a good tradeoff if you ask me. > >Take a look at the fastest CISC out there, the Pentium Pro. What > >does it do? It 'preprocesses' the CISC instruction stream into a > >simpler, more 'RISC' like, instruction stream which is then executed. > > Thats the amazing part too me... that this actually work :) > It execute 3 variable size instruction per cycle.... Its called superscalar - and it is not amazing it works - it is amazing how much more die size (gates) it takes up to do the same amount of work. > >How much cheaper/faster would that CPU be if it could be fed > >the RISC code directly? > > Humm, the code size would probably double, so you need to spend > $ on bigger cache and faster memory. You have this backwards - this is why RISC's have been proven cheaper to design and implement, and outperform CISC overall, and much more dramatic results when you look at performance/gate or performance/watt, etc.... > >Show me a CISC chip and I will show you a faster/cheaper RISC > >chip. > >This don't make CISC bad, just not better. > > My view is, cisc better exploit the resource at hand... risc are alot > faster/cheaper to design and improve giving them the edge. > Even so, like some mentioned, at one time, the Pentiumpro was > THE fastest CPU on earth for integer work :) Sure... CISC chips CAN be faster - but they can't keep up, and cost more to design, etc.... as for better resources at hand the CISC have yet to prove that - to get the performance on CISC (like PPro) you have to have alignment issues, etc. that make it look more like a RISC than a CISC anyways - and you get code creep the same as RISC. So wheres the advantage? > My only concern with risc chip is their efficientcy. Not data wise tho. RISC's are more efficient in cost, design, power, gates, performance, heat.... they are a toss up on data size and code size - (theoretically being larger - but functionally not being significantly different). > >In the end it really doesn't matter. Most code is written in > >a high level languge and can compile anywhere. Code that is > >written against a particular CPU will be shortlived > > Yes, but it will live long enought to make sense to do it. (I mean > hand written specific CPU code) Now days people are learning - NO! (Or only very selectively. First you write in standard language and get it working. Then you profile and tune certain areas. Giving you portability FIRST - then performance enhancements second). > >Even a CISC is no promise of long life. Code written against > >8086 is _NOT_ very performal on a Pentium today. Sure it runs, but > >very poorly compared to code written with that CPU in mind. > > Code written for the P5 might run VERY porrly on a P6 etc... Yes. > >Advice: Write it in a high level language and re-compile as needed. > > My advice... Write in the language that fit the best, and hand optimize > assembly version of the critical part (If any). Most compiler today can > produce code as much as 4 time slower as human rewritten code. Humans can tune code... but the way most people are doing it is writing high-level and getting it working (and portable) FIRST. Then profiling and tuning as necessary... it turns out that in the past humans weren't always that good at guessing which parts of the code were the bottlenecks and so wasted time optimizing the wrong areas - and not creating portability first. -- David K. Every MacKiDo Warrior - The Power of the Macintosh Way! -- =A91996 DKE. Non-exclusive, royalty free license to distribute is granted to any service provider except Microsoft. 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From: "David Every" <dke@adnc.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 10 Jan 97 07:26:08 +0000 Organization: adnc.com Distribution: inet Message-ID: <AEFB9F94-3997A@207.158.13.84> References: <19970109213036289271@yellow-orl-4.wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.os.ms-windows, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.amiga.advocacy, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.mac.advocacy, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.unix.advocacy, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.soft-sys.nextstep > Kristian K=F6hntopp <KRIS@KOEHNTOPP.DE> =E9crivait=A0: > > > "Can a PPC multiply 8 values and clip each individual result in > > 1 cycle?" > > > > It can't. The question is: Should it? > > Multiplying 8 values at a time is 8 times faster only if you get these 8 > values from the memory at the same time ! Of course, it can't. The > memory is not 8 times faster :-) Of course thats the point - there is more room on RISC for Cache, and its easier to add logic to avoid cache stalls and for prefetch... meaning that you are more likely to get a cache hit vs a stall which can be MORE than 8 times faster. > IMHO, even without MMX like functions, today's processors are very > memory bound. This greatly reduces the interest of these SIMD > instructions. If they were as memory bound as you imply then MP would die and be futile. We are learning the opposite... 2 and 4 processors work fine sharing the same memory and L2 - which would not be possible if 1 processor was completely memory bound as you implied. -- David K. Every MacKiDo Warrior - The Power of the Macintosh Way! -- =A91996 DKE. Non-exclusive, royalty free license to distribute is granted to any service provider except Microsoft. By distributing this, Microsoft agrees to pay $1,000 per posting.
From: Pohl Longsine <pohl@screaming.org> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:01:13 -0600 Organization: mementech, inc. Message-ID: <32D691F9.3D2E04C0@screaming.org> References: <19970109213036289271@yellow-orl-4.wanadoo.fr> <AEFB9F94-3997A@207.158.13.84> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Every wrote: > Of course thats the point - there is more room on RISC for Cache, and > its easier to add logic to avoid cache stalls and for prefetch... > meaning that you are more likely to get a cache hit vs a stall which > can be MORE than 8 times faster. May I ask why this is important to newsgroups for systems that run on multiple processors? I admit that it's a selling-point for systems that are dependent on PPC, but I don't think those vendors relish their platform dependencies. Apple's acquisition of OpenStep, to me, indicates that they no longer want their API to be tied to an architecture -- so that Apple is no longer tied to the success or failure of a particular architecture. Doesn't "The Macintosh Way" have something to do with not having to be concerned with the details of cache stalls? -- pohl@screaming.org |"Reality is that which when you stop believing http://screaming.org/ | in it doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick ----------------------+---------------------------------------------- OpenStep Inferno Java | Making the world safe for platform diversity.
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 10 Jan 1997 18:59:27 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5b63if$n6g$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> Cc: netuser@earthlink.net In <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> Internet User wrote: > Apple worshippers will probably point to NeXT IB (Interface Builder) and lavish > praise upon it and assert how there's nothing like it in the known universe. So > riddle me this: if IB is as great as Steve Jobs claims, and makes programmers 10 to > 50 times more productive, then where are the flood of NeXTstep applications? Taking > Jobs words at face value, one should expect 10 to 50 times the software that > NeXTstep's tiny marketshare can otherwise claim. That ain't the case, guys. At this point, I seem to be able to find more software for my NeXTStep 3.2/3.3 environment than my friend can for his NT 3.5 environment. We received an HP (intel) server recently... the instructions said if you were going to try to load NT 3.5, send it back... use 4.x only. What's the deal with that? On top of it, most of the NeXTStep software I use is free or very inexpensive... and crafted by single developers, not software houses. VB "objects" are not in the same class of objects you'd drag-n-drop off an IB palette. Controls != Objects. Regards, Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net) #include <std.disclaimer>
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadm Subject: Re: Retraining for Rhapsody with WatchMe.app Date: 10 Jan 1997 19:59:24 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5b672s$2o6@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5b387f$t4r@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <5b3ef8$26v@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5b3r3f$48t@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> In-Reply-To: <5b3r3f$48t@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> > jdevlin@umich.edu wrote: > > SUGGESTION: The new Apple OS should come with an entire CDRom > library of WatchMe cassettes on every conceivable topic. > Excellent -- what might be neat would be, if the new UI is in some ways different to the current one, having a session in which the current MacOS is running in an emulation window, and users are shown "Whereas before you did this... you now do this..." Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: Mark.A.Tarbell@jpl.nasa.gov (Mark Tarbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Chinese system. Date: 10 Jan 1997 20:48:02 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena CA, USA Message-ID: <5b69u2$m4n@starlight.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <5ai02n$l9i@transfer.stratus.com> Cc: edward_xu@vos.stratus.com In <5ai02n$l9i@transfer.stratus.com> Edward Xu wrote, in part: > I want to access Chinese web page. Does anyone know where to get Chinese > system on NeXT. Do we have Chinese system on NeXT? Any information. Hi Edward, To access Chinese web pages you'll need at least the Kaisu font: ftp:/next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/fonts/k/KaiSu.pkg_0_7.tar.gz The Kaisu font, along with the web browser OmniWeb.app or Netsurfer.app: ftp:/next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/latest_versions/OnniWeb.tar.gz ftp:/next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/news/NewsFlash.2.275.NIHS.b.tar.gz ..will allow you to read Big5-encoded web pages. I don't know of a way to read HZ-encoded posts. In addition, there are numerous Chinese newsgroups using Big5 encoding as well, such as: alt.chinese.computing alt.chinese.fengshui alt.chinese.story alt.chinese.text.big5 alt.cnd.chinese-magazine.big5 ... etc. To read them, you'll need a dual-byte-capable newsreader, such as RadicalNews, and Kaisu: ftp:/next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/latest_versions/RadicalNews.tar.gz Finally, there is (or used to be) a company which sells a Chinese version of NEXTSTEP for US$995 called CHINAware: Object Rain Corporation 3F, No. 5, Alley 6, Lane 303, Sec. 3, NanKing East Road, Taipei, Taiwan, R.O.C. (886)-2-719-1181 phone (886)-2-712-3839 fax Email: idpt353@tpts1.seed.net.tw Good luck! Mark
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ClarisWorks 4.0/Internet Date: 10 Jan 97 17:17:20 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AEFC2A24-1D5889@207.147.50.154> References: <8CF9266.09B800003E.uuout@moondog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Cyberdog-AltBoundary-001D579B" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-001D579B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Who cares? Where is 5.0? You remember, it's supposed to be and OpenDoc Container. 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From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@jura.uni-bonn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Khoros for NextStep? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 21:05:38 +0000 Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970110210429.3889B-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> References: <5b2ha2$ko5@news.tuwien.ac.at> <5b3rji$s76@uuneo.neosoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Robert B. Love" <rlove@neosoft.com> In-Reply-To: <5b3rji$s76@uuneo.neosoft.com> On 9 Jan 1997, Robert B. Love wrote: > In <5b2ha2$ko5@news.tuwien.ac.at> Khanh P. Nguyen wrote: > > Does such a thing exist? > > Yes, sorta. Years ago somebody from the Naval Research Lab > compiled it for NeXT but it still used X-Windows. So if you > can run X on your system, have black h/w and look at the > NeXT & Khoros archive sites you might still find it. > Does anybody know if it compiles under Openstep 4.1 Intel? Regards Konstantin Wiesel Email:kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de
From: Eric Smalling <Eric_Smalling@amrcorp.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:21:53 -0600 Organization: SABRE Decision Technologies http://www.amrcorp.com Message-ID: <32D6B2F1.53E6@amrcorp.com> References: <32BA667C.403A@sfbayrun.com> <59eoku$eih@mica.netsync.net> <5b55du$nuq@epimetheus.algonet.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mats Forssblad wrote: > By the way, I got curious about the Next for pc, so I went to their > web-page to see what the os costs. I could not find any information. > So, with help of dejanews I found out that there IS no price right > now, but it DID cost $ 895. Now, that IS STOOPID. No wonder it is not > commercially popular. IF such an expensive OS is actually going to get > integrated with an os that most people regard as free (even if it, > actually is not, but few notice that there is a price), that is going > to produce some...what shall we call it...interesting demand/price > effects on the NextStep os right now, no? hehe - That's probably just to use the thing too! Developer (non-academic) packages are much more. I've been trying to convince my managers to look at OpenStep for NT here for months, but look at the price of the "Starter Pack" _special offer_ at this url: http://www.next.com:80/OPENSTEP/Products/OS_NT/OSE_Starter.htmld/ Yup, thats right FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS for _ONE_ developer (on the Enterprise Platform) !!! (and 3 Deployment Packs whatever they are) I sincerly hope Apple helps bring that price down _significantly_. I'm going to a NeXT Seminar next week to see OpenStep Enterprise and WebObjects Enterprise, I'm hoping they will affirm this! es PS: For a full price list see: http://www.optimal-object.com/Software/prices.html -- ____________________________________________________________________ Eric A. Smalling SABRE Decision Technologies - Ft Worth, Texas USA --=== ------=== The Any views expressed are mine alone and are in no ----------- SABRE way the views of AMR or any of it's subsidiaries. ------=== Group --=== email:Eric_Smalling@amrcorp.com Corp Web Site: http://www.amrcorp.com/sabr_grp/sdt/sdt.htm ____________________________________________________________________
From: bob@activesw.com (Bob Weisblatt) Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 18:42:24 GMT Organization: InterNex Information Services 1-800-595-3333 Message-ID: <5b62ai$q63@masters0.InterNex.Net> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> Another reason we ship PDF is that we can also ship indexes so people can search for something. We haven't found a way to reliably allow our users to search HTML docs. And for me, online docs without a search capability are nearly useless. Does anyone know of a way to allow users to search HTML docs on their machines (rather than my servers)? Bob carloskessel@montreal.com.br (Carlos Kessel) wrote: >Arnold Shore <ashore@dgs.dgsys.com> wrote: >>Counter question: Why bother with Acrobat and PDF? >... >>Arnold Shore >>Annapolis, MD >That's my feeling too. But I think the points of including a >downloadable PDF file in a site would be: >- Maintaining the original design >- Including all images >- Avoiding the wages of the WebMaster. >However, I'm still curious about all this Acrobat hoopla. I know some >big fans of PDF. >.................................. >Carlos Kessel >Rio de Janeiro, Brasil
From: longsine@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: 13 Jan 1997 22:46:00 GMT Organization: PLATINUM technology, inc. (though i speak for myself only) Message-ID: <5bedv8$es2@news.platinum.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bcske$5ps@news.platinum.com> <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Cc: jburton@nwu.edu This is what happens when you rely *too* much on a built-in spell checker... Let it be a lesson to you all. 8^) Naturally, I meant to type: rogue... In <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Joshua W. Burton wrote: > longsine@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) wrote: > > > DHCP is very important if you want to play in Windows shops. Might > > be your only way to get an IP address for your rouge Rhapsody box... > > Therefore it's important. > > They're going to make #################################################################### From: tony@lookgood.demon.co.uk (Tony Gillie) Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:08:24 GMT Lines: 23 Message-ID: <32de8aac.83436568@news.demon.co.uk> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> <Pine.PMDF.3.95.970111145001.631308429B-100000@conrad.appstate.edu> <01bc014e$02a25080$87589ace@Pjafiore> NNTP-Posting-Host: lookgood.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: lookgood.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99f/32.299 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.apfel.de!news.radio.cz!voskovec.radio.cz!nntp.uio.no!news.cybernet.dk!netcom.net.uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!lookgood.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.software:27322 comp.text.pdf:6525 comp.text.frame:19407 comp.graphics.apps.photoshop:37815 comp.fonts:48124 comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images:22531 comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html:120442 "Jeff Fiore" <jafiore@webspan.net> wrote: >I agree PDF is great but the only problem I have with it is that it takes >forever to print and if other print jobs are printing, you will get an >error that the printer is busy. >Jeff > For what it's worth, I've had the exact opposite experience. I got fed up with waiting for MS Word and MS Publisher to print multiple copies of moderately complex documents (to a local HP Laserjet 4M plus (postscript with 6Mb RAM), so I 'printed' the originals to pdf format, and printed them from Acrobat Reader to the Laserjet. MUCH faster. The only downside is that there doesn't seem to be a 'collate' option when printing from Acrobat Reader. The documents in question contained mostly postscript fonts and a fair number of small embedded images. Tony [previous article extracts snipped] -- Dr Tony Gillie IT Consultancy, Programming, and Desktop Publishing Services tony@lookgood.demon.co.uk
From: "David Every" <dke@adnc.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 10 Jan 97 18:30:17 +0000 Organization: adnc.com Distribution: inet Message-ID: <AEFC3B3F-480AD@207.158.11.9> References: <32D691F9.3D2E04C0@screaming.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.os.ms-windows, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.amiga.advocacy, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.mac.advocacy, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.unix.advocacy, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.adnc.com/comp.soft-sys.nextstep > David Every wrote: > > Of course thats the point - there is more room on RISC for Cache, and > > its easier to add logic to avoid cache stalls and for prefetch... > > meaning that you are more likely to get a cache hit vs a stall which > > can be MORE than 8 times faster. > > May I ask why this is important to newsgroups for systems that > run on multiple processors? I admit that it's a selling-point > for systems that are dependent on PPC, but I don't think those > vendors relish their platform dependencies. Apple's acquisition > of OpenStep, to me, indicates that they no longer want their > API to be tied to an architecture -- so that Apple is no longer > tied to the success or failure of a particular architecture. I agree to a point.... But whats your question/point? I was responding to someone about differences in RISC/CISC architecture and implementation... this seems like a bit of a diversion if you ask me. I think apple DOES want more flexibility. But that was never the issue.= > Doesn't "The Macintosh Way" have something to do with not having > to be concerned with the details of cache stalls? As a user? Sure.... as a programmer? Not so sure. And you need to worry about those things if you are a low level programmer at all.... fortunately concepts like OpenStep (or Rhapsody) should allow more programmers to stay at a higher level..... hmmm... that sounds like a MacWay to me as well. ;-) -- David K. Every MacKiDo Warrior - The Power of the Macintosh Way! -- =A91997 DKE. Non-exclusive, royalty free license to distribute is granted to any service provider except Microsoft. By distributing this, Microsoft agrees to pay $1,000 per posting.
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS Installation FAQ? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:02:23 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Message-ID: <32DB4B9F.2E80@us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a NeXTSTEP installation FAQ for Black hardware? Thanks, Jason
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: NS Install on New HD? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:59:59 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Message-ID: <32DB4B0F.6839@us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a NeXTstation mono with a 100MB internal hard drive that I would like to replace with a 1GB Seagate ST31230N. The new SCSI hard drive mounts fine but I do not know how to install NeXTSTEP onto it. I have NS 3.0 on cdrom and I have a NEC 6x SCSI cdrom connected to the NeXTstation and it works with the 100MB drive with NS loaded. When I boot with the new hard drive I get to a ROM monitor and I type b to boot. It examines the SCSI devices and then tries to load off of the cdrom and then craps out. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jason
From: dcorn@paradise.pplnet.com (David Corn) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:07:36 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32dc9fc0.529753@news.onramp.net> References: <5b11c5$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <AEFB9EC9-369E0@207.158.13.84> <5b7km0$o68@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <32d7fc3d.82279872@client.sw.news.psi.net> <5ba00l$321@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> <32da8f2b.251026236@client.sw.news.psi.net> <5bfjit$8km@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 14 Jan 97 01:35:06 GMT, t21@ix.netcom.com (Stephan Schaem) wrote: > I think they plan to have a 266mhz ppro this year? A 300mhz ppro seem > possible. Compaq has had Klamath 266s for quite a while now. 300 mhz is no big deal from there, although I do want to see the 100 mhz busses - _that_ will be an improvement. ________________________________________________ Reachable at: 713 629 6947 nights Please quote in all replies
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701101427.GAA22479@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 09:27:14 -0500 Subject: Procmail Recipe-set for comp.sys.next.* newsgroups Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary I have been using these scripts for awhile now (Thanks to Alan K. Stebbens from the procmail list for a ton of help -- but he is not to blame for the final product) Anyway, I thought this might be of interest to some NeXT users. What it does is allow you to subscribe to the NeXT newsgroups via email (see the FAQ or ask me [by email] how). When the digests come, these recipes will break the digest into single posts, check for crossposted messages (and remove duplicates, keeping only one copy), check for SPAM based on domain name, "From " and "Subject:" lines, and sort the messages into Mail.app mailboxes. It even inserts the proper Reply-To addresses so you can reply to posts and have them posted via email. This has been terribly helpful in light of the recent influx of off-topic posts and "should be in .advocasy" posts They can be found at: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/NeXT-USENET-procmailrc-files.tar.gz if you don't have web access, send me an email message with the SUBJECT send-mime NeXT-USENET-procmailrc-files.tar.gz if you can't read MIME mail, use send-uuencoded NeXT-USENET-procmailrc-files.tar.gz TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat For info on my email auto-responder and searching the PEAK FTP site via email, send me an email with the SUBJECT "send-help" (without the " marks, of course ;-) ^^^^^^^
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.5beta: 777 bug? Date: 14 Jan 1997 15:47:31 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5bg9qj$fm7@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5bg41m$ckb@bignews.shef.ac.uk> In article <5bg41m$ckb@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes: > I've found that using OW2.5 (and maybe others before?) permissions on the > download directory are set to 777; this may not be convenient for some > people! Something to watch out for if you're concerned about security. That's not the permissions of MY downlaod directory (/tmp/username) using OmniWeb. My download directory is readable only be me. The scratch directory (/tmp/OmniWeb), is 777 but OmniWeb places individual directories inside that for each instance/user. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke) Subject: Fax software on NeXT Message-ID: <1997Jan10.191542.2125@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Organization: Disorganization Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:15:42 GMT I'm looking for a way to send faxes from my cube (NS3.2) and my USR Sportster modem. The sportster is not supported by NXFax ! Did someone manage mgetty+sendfax running/compiling ? Any preconfigured bundle somewhere for download ? Any hint appreciated !
From: jmckee@miaco.com (Joshua T. McKee) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 20:58:56 GMT Organization: Miaco Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32d7fc3d.82279872@client.sw.news.psi.net> References: <5b11c5$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <AEFB9EC9-369E0@207.158.13.84> <5b7km0$o68@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> On Sat, 11 Jan 97 01:04:42 GMT, t21@ix.netcom.com (Stephan Schaem) wrote: >In article <AEFB9EC9-369E0@207.158.13.84>, "David Every" <dke@adnc.com> wrote: >>Sure... CISC chips CAN be faster - but they can't keep up, and cost >>more to design, etc.... as for better resources at hand the CISC have >>yet to prove that - to get the performance on CISC (like PPro) you >>have to have alignment issues, etc. that make it look more like a RISC >>than a CISC anyways - and you get code creep the same as RISC. So >>wheres the advantage? >> > > PPrO is a VERY bad cisc example... its a cisc (variable instruction size, >etc..) but only work well with risc like instruction. And the x86 instruction >set is an horrible instruction set. Why? The Pentium Pro happens to be one of the fastest chips around. What makes it a bad example?
From: rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:50:14 -0800 Organization: Quicksilver Software, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > This is oh so true. I've got two 68K MOT instruction set manuals. One > calls the processor a 16 bit unit, the other proudly announces it as > an advanced 32 bit processor (SAME processor part number). One manual > was before Apple literature described the 68K as a 32 bit processor, > the other after - connection? This reminds me of the transistor count > game that was played with transistor radios. I once disassembled a > 14-transistor Radio Shack radio. 2 of the transistors were wired and > used as diodes, 4 had ALL THREE leads soldered together and tacked > here and there on the PCB. So, what I really had was an 8 transistor > radio and 2 of those had little if any effect on performance. It's ALL > in the marketing.... Bogus. Fact is all 68K's offer a unified 32-bit programmer model, for pointers and integers. True, the original 68000 had a 16-bit external data bus and only 24 bits of physical address bus, but this is also why we call Pentium and Pentium Pro "32 bit processors" and not 64 bits: it's commonly accepted to look at the ALU word width or address space size as the "bitness" of a processor. You attribute malice or deception to simple confusion in literature and terminology. The fact remains that flat 32-bit code could be and was written on the 68000 from the very beginning, lots of it, this was and is a benefit to its users. If you don't believe me, why not pop over to comp.arch and ask some folks around there whether they think the 68K family qualifies as a 32-bit processor design, or if Moto tried to deceive anyone by promoting it as such. Rob Barris Quicksilver Software Inc. rbarris@quicksilver.com * Opinions expressed not necessarily those of my employer *
Message-ID: <32D9B52C.6838@isd.net> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 22:08:12 -0600 From: "Reboot!" <ctoney@isd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> <5b62ai$q63@masters0.InterNex.Net> <32d95f11.42670641@news.aye.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 18:42:24 GMT, bob@activesw.com (Bob Weisblatt) > wrote: > > >Another reason we ship PDF is that we can also ship indexes so people > >can search for something. We haven't found a way to reliably allow our > >users to search HTML docs. And for me, online docs without a search > >capability are nearly useless. > > > >Does anyone know of a way to allow users to search HTML docs on their > >machines (rather than my servers)? > > > >Bob > > > > > Just use the Edit Find function of your browser for simple searches. > > mike@aye.net > http://www.aye.net/~mike/ Gateway to over 450 FREE animated GIFs Or create one time only (since it is on a cdrom) an index.html listing the pages and subject in html and build links....Just have to do it once! -- ***The Truth may be found at*** http://www.isd.net/ctoney/index3.htm Visit The PDF Force at http://www.pdf.org/ for the latest and greatest on Adobe Acrobat!
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.5beta: 777 bug? Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:21:20 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5bgir0$re3@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5bg41m$ckb@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <5bg9qj$fm7@crcnis3.unl.edu> In-Reply-To: <5bg9qj$fm7@crcnis3.unl.edu> On 01/14/97, Rex Dieter wrote: > In article <5bg41m$ckb@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford > <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes: > > I've found that using OW2.5 (and maybe others before?) permissions on the > > download directory are set to 777; this may not be convenient for some > > people! Something to watch out for if you're concerned about security. > > That's not the permissions of MY downlaod directory (/tmp/username) using > OmniWeb. My download directory is readable only be me. > > The scratch directory (/tmp/OmniWeb), is 777 but OmniWeb places individual > directories inside that for each instance/user. > Hmm, how curious; I was using ~/anon_ftp as scratch and download directory, and it was that which it kept setting to 777. I wonder what the difference is...? Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: Eric_Smalling@amrcorp.com (Eric Smalling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Home Finance Software for OpenStep? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 18:33:12 GMT Organization: SABRE Decision Technologies http://www.amrcorp.com Message-ID: <5bgjka$kd4@aadt.sdt.com> Keywords: quicken money finance nextstep openstep mach Are there any good (comperable to Quicken 6 or 7) home finance software app's for the OpenStep/NextStep? At home I use WinBlows 95 and would love to get a copy of OpenStep for Mach (for Intel) but I really don't think I'd like dual-booting just so I can update my Quicken Register every day. __________________________#################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!cs.tu-berlin.de!unlisys!blackbush.xlink.net!news.asys-h.de!baghira.han.de!euler!news From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: PageChoice X-Nntp-Posting-Host: euler Message-ID: <E3yoto.5xI@euler.han.de> Sender: news@euler.han.de Organization: Ink Unknown References: <5b9pdf$149@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:29:47 GMT Lines: 23 Uli Zappe writes > mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: > > In another thread, long ago, I mentioned the existence of an application > > called "PageChoice" which, given a PostScript file, will allow you to print > > out left or right pages, duplex etc. > > Could anyone who would be interested in this please let me know, > > and I'll let him know the market opinion. > > As I said in another thread, if this tool is also able to do "book-like" > sorting of pages (meaning if you you have say four pages then print 4|1 on > one side and 2|3 on the other side of one sheet of paper) to print your own > little booklets, I'd be VERY interested! There is the /PEANUTS-1/Tools/postscript/programs/quarto package. Its README mentions just that. Juergen --- AnsweringMachine +49 511 92455-50 Fon -51 Fax -52 NeXTMail welcome = What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, = when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, = when a politician's idea of social change is changing names = when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 13 Jan 1997 22:08:36 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <5bebp4$ltl@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar> <nervous-ya02408000R0301970202130001@news.netrover.com> <5ajjq7$bu@news.platinum.com> <michael.b.moore.1203569514A@news.msfc.nasa.gov> michael.b.moore@msfc.nasa.gov (Michael B. Moore) wrote: > NextStep may *look* cool, and the MacOS may *look* primitive to > some, but I dare anybody to show me a System finder any more > *advanced* than the Mac Finder. What other desktop metaphor allows > me to drag practically *any* icon, whether it's a data file, > application, or folder icon, with the exceptions of the System > Folder and a few oddball apps, *anywhere he wants*, and the system > can *still* find the appropriate file? Uh, how about NeXTstep? Well, I admit I can't drag my apps and folders into someone else's home folder, unless they've set the permissions to allow it; is this your beef? And if I put an application in a spot where I explicitly told the system not to look for apps (this default can be set graphically or from the command line) then I will have to drag my document to it explicitly, rather than having it launch the document with a click. If you dislike this behavior, put / in your applications path, and the Workspace will find your app _anywhere_ when you click on an appropriate document _anywhere_. By convention, a few NeXT apps like to keep their documentation and templates and whatnot in /LocalLibrary, instead of inside their own app wrappers. In nearly all cases, this can be overridden from the application's preferences panel, or by writing a line to the global defaults database. Aren't there any Mac apps that have preferred locations for auxiliary files? Can I take apart Mac Illustrator and scatter the package randomly all over my disk without losing any functionality? I have heard the routers pinging, +--------------------------------+ each to each. | Joshua W Burton (847)677-3902 | I do not think that they will ping to me. | jburton@nwu.edu | -- The Love Song of J. Random Hacker +--------------------------------+
From: "Mark P. Fishman" <mfishman@ll.mit.edu> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:37:40 -0500 Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory Message-ID: <32DBEE94.1731@ll.mit.edu> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> <Pine.PMDF.3.95.970111145001.631308429B-100000@conrad.appstate.edu> <01bc014e$02a25080$87589ace@Pjafiore> <32de8aac.83436568@news.demon.co.uk> <5bghul$gcm@neon.house.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Richard Diamond <daweb@hr.house.gov> I have to wonder whether you use the same Acrobat sub-product to print as I do. I use the Acrobat Reader. Version 2.0, version 2.1, version 3.0 for MS-Windows 3.1 or 95 or NT4, or SUN Solaris 2.4 or 2.5, all produce different output on paper, and this output is usually wrong somehow (missing letters, oddball spacing, partial figures, typeface changes). Acrobat Reader 1.0 for MS-DOS often produces the most usable output, with all substituted fonts. I agree that the key benefit of PDF would be that the output should be a perfect copy of the designer's skill in implementing his intent. Thus far it doesn't work reliably. The output can look fine on screen and utterly unusable on paper. Cheers -- Mark F. Richard Diamond wrote: > > As for the use of PDF, I do document layout with lots of kerning and > font spacing to make it look properly professional. Pagemaker can, > with a press of a button, distill it into a PDF file that can print on > any platform running PDF, and the output is *perfect*. That is the key > benefit of PDF.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Anyone compile Kerberos 5? Message-ID: <cdoutyE40LDy.1qv@netcom.com> Keywords: port security kerberos Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:10:46 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom8.netcom.com Has anyone ported Kerberos 5 (of any beta) to NeXTstep? I started in on Beta 7 on NS3.3p1 but ran into some serious problems. I figured that rather re-invent the wheel, I'd ask the Net. If you've ported Kerberos I would really appreciate a set of patches/diffs to the source tree. Binaries would be OK too, but I'd rather not get you in trouble with the State Department. Plus source is just sorta required for a security product. :-) On a related note, did NeXT ever publish the API for loginwindow? I can't seem to find any reference to it on NextAnswers. Thanks, Chris Douty -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: converting .draw files to other formats Date: 14 Jan 1997 03:06:38 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5bet7u$ace@news.next.com> References: <5bdvi7$qs@coopers.cs.ubc.ca> David Poole writes > I have been using nextstep draw (version 3.0) for creating drawings > for a book. Now the publisher wants to be able to edit the drawings > (to make them more standard), so how can I translate .draw files to > another format that can be edited using some standard drawing package > (probably on a PC)... [.eps or .tiff is no good as they cannot be > edited]. > > Thanks for any help you can give, > David > poole@cs.ubc.ca Actually, both EPS and TIFF are *both* editable formats. I'd hate to think that your book publisher doesn't have a copy of either Photoshop or Illustrator. Seriously, though, either ImageViewer.app (available on the usual NeXT archive sites) or OmniImage.app (www.omnigroup.com) can convert ps files to any number of other formats...So: print, save the PS to a file, and convert away! Hope this helps, -Mark -- Mark Bessey NeXT Software, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Chess.app in Openstep 4.1 corrupted? Date: 14 Jan 1997 03:18:40 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5betug$adq@news.next.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970113203420.5032A-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@jura.uni-bonn.de> writes > > Does anybody encounter graphical errors in the 2d display of the > Chess.app of OpenStep 4.1, too? > > Regards > Konstantin Wiesel > Email:kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de > Yep. I wonder how that happened? It worked fine in 3.3 (really!) At least it's still playable. I'm sure that Apple will give this bug the priority it deserves :-) Thanks, -Mark -- Mark Bessey NeXT Software, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: rsjoh@aol.com (Rsjoh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Retraining for Rhapsody with WatchMe.app Date: 14 Jan 1997 23:50:36 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970114234800.SAA13015@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5be02m$h62@news.xmission.com> This is already available in System 7.5.x, it's called Apple Guide and it does everything listed for WatchMe.app. Scott Johnson
From: "Jonathan W. Hendry" <jon@exnext.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 12:13:02 -0500 Organization: Steel Driving Software, Inc. Message-ID: <32DBBE9E.1DA3@exnext.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bcske$5ps@news.platinum.com> <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5bedv8$es2@news.platinum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary W. Longsine wrote: > In <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Joshua W. Burton wrote: > > longsine@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) wrote: > > What's wrong with matte black, anyway? It's good enough for every > > cool piece of electronics on the planet _except_ computers, isn't > it? > > I want black, too. I wouldn't be surprised if Power Computing could be persuaded to do a line of black machines. They seem pretty hip. -- Jonathan W. Hendry President, Steel Driving Software, Inc. OpenStep, Delphi, and Java Consulting in Cincinnati http://www.steeldriving.com
From: Morphamania <mm@ois.com.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AppleTalk printing on 3.3 Intel NeXT Step. Date: 13 Jan 1997 08:02:37 GMT Organization: Morphamania Internet Publishing Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bcq6t$gvm$1@brumby.cowan.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi All! I need the AppleTalk package that the NeXT homepage outlines so i can use my ethernet network to t ppd's for the printer(s) but it e the Appletalk package doesn't ship with 3.3. Any ideas where I can get it or any workarounds???? Thanks. Steve. sdoyle@ois.com.au
From: kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:45:30 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <MPG.d45ba729c0df226989681@news.xmission.com> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar> <nervous-ya02408000R0301970202130001@news.netrover.com> <5ajjq7$bu@news.platinum.com> <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net> In article <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net>, gmgraves@earthlink.net spouts forth... > Has#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!newsserv.uni-bayreuth.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.apfel.de!nntp.uio.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!arclight.uoregon.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!metro.atlanta.com!cpk-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.ti.com!usenet From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@hc.ti.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PencilMeIn API and Pilot Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:40:57 -0600 Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <32DD24B9.D1A@hc.ti.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.hc.ti.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.03 9000/735) Has anybody written an app that will use the PMI API and details of the Pilot API to work on a sychronization program for the USR Pilot organizer and PencilMeIn? - Steve -- Stephen J. Perkins Tel. +1(972)995-0029, Fax +1(972)995-6194, e-mail: perkins@ti.com Texas Instruments, P.O. Box 655474, MS 446, Dallas, TX 75265
From: agounder@bdm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Demoing NeXT Step Developed Software in MS Windows Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:44:18 -0800 Organization: BDM Message-ID: <32DD5DC2.6AAA@bdm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can you tell us the best way to create a demo of software developed using NextStep, that can be viewed in MS Windows? We have looked at the WatchMe software, however, we haven't figured out how to port the WatchMe demo to MS Windows. Can anyone offer any suggestions?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How do I get Calliope.font to work? Message-ID: <E40o6v.Fow@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <E3vwCK.MJI@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 21:11:19 GMT In article <E3vwCK.MJI@midway.uchicago.edu> bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu (Coffee) writes: > Hi again. I have Calliope.font I need it to run a program known > as Calliope. The font is not an afm or bitmap font. Therefore, > all I can do is link it in /NextLibrary/Fonts/outlines and have > its own directory. However, all the programs say that it still > can't find the font. What do I need to do to update the font to > be available to the program? Hey, another big hit on my hunt for RTFMs ;-) See the man-page on 'buildafmdir'. That should put you into the picture. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: looking for 'rtf <--> html' filter Date: 15 Jan 1997 22:32:49 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5bjluh$sab@news.xmission.com> References: <1997Jan15.112743.47277@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> frank@ifi.unibas.ch wrote: > I'm quite sure that this has already been done, but where to look for it?: > > I could need an 'rtf <--> html' filter. It doesn't have to be near perfect, > just the basic things like character codes, boldface, underline, etc. are > sufficient. > > Any pointers? Two options I know of: (1) There are freebies out on the net. Look for rtf2html or rtftohtml. Pop up Altavista or some such to find it. None of these work great with NeXT RTF and may need some tweaking for that. (2) LatinByrd.app, which is in beta right now, from Stefan Schnieder Software (same people who do HelpViewer). I've been testing it and it is not 100% perfect yet, but it is pretty good. I've played with (1) a bit, but (2) already does a better job. 'Taint free, but you get what you pay for... -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Previewing MSWord Docs on OpenStep Message-ID: <5bgq4n$mom$1@jake.esu.edu> From: katz@cs.millersv.edu (Beth Katz) Date: 14 Jan 1997 20:25:59 GMT References: <jchan-ya023580001201971414540001@news.apk.net> Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania RE: Previewing MSWord Docs on OpenStep Jerome Chan (jchan@apk.net) wrote: > Are there any Apps or Objects(?) that will do the above? Well, AFS (WriteUp@afs.com) had WriteUp that used various filters to read and write MS Word and other types of foreign (non-NeXT) documents. However, I don't believe they are selling WriteUp currently. Their license for the filters expired. There used to be a demo available. Maybe if someone is no longer using their copy of WriteUp, they might sell it to you. Or perhaps they will start selling it again. Another approach is to get Executor. It is an emulator for a Mac. It can run MS Word 5.1. I've used that combination to write a chapter for a book (on HyperCard 2 which also runs under Executor with some minor shortcomings). You'll need to install Word on a Mac and copy it to NEXTSTEP. It takes five HD diskettes. (My copy is from a site license for my work at school.) Contact info@ardi.com. Both of these "solutions" work with NEXTSTEP 3.1 and up and perhaps earlier versions. They are not OPENSTEP-only or OPENSTEP-ready apps. At least not right now Sorry I can't be more helpful. I'm a happy long-time user and beta- tester for these apps. Beth Katz katz@cs.millersv.edu
From: Paul Naton <pnatona@cts.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:51:09 -0800 Organization: CTS Network Services Message-ID: <32DD433A.285B@cts.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bcske$5ps@news.platinum.com> <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5bedv8$es2@news.platinum.com> <32DBBE9E.1DA3@exnext.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jonathan W. Hendry wrote: > > Gary W. Longsine wrote: > > > In <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Joshua W. Burton wrote: > > > longsine@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) wrote: > > > > What's wrong with matte black, anyway? It's good enough for every > > > cool piece of electronics on the planet _except_ computers, isn't > > it? > > > > I want black, too. > > I wouldn't be surprised if Power Computing could be persuaded > to do a line of black machines. They seem pretty hip. > > -- > Jonathan W. Hendry President, Steel Driving Software, Inc. > OpenStep, Delphi, and Java Consulting in Cincinnati > http://www.steeldriving.com I just painted my PowerTower Pro 180 black. I used Krylon semi matte black after wiping with a light swipe of laquer thinner then alcohol. Looks awsome sitting next to my still cool but aging Next Turbo color system. I have a old next 'jacket pin' stuck in the front speaker grill of the Power Tower. I installed the eclipse setting in Kaleidescope to get that cool black look and Smart Scroll for that Next windowing thing. Replaced the Mac trash with the Next recycler icon too. Now I dont have next withdrawls. Paul Naton Maximum Graphix Love them both.......
From: "T.E. Biesinger" <teb@eng.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: IBM ThinkPad 560 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 20:59:35 +0000 Organization: Cambridge University Engineering Department Message-ID: <32DD4537.22B1@eng.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Does anybody else use an IBM ThinkPad 560 running OPENSTEP 4.0 out there? I would like to make your contact anyway to exchange experience. Here are some of my problems: 1. I am having trouble with the power mode switching using eg Fn 11 for hybernation mode. All others Fn keys work as root only! 2. The pg up and pg down keys do not work. 3. The CD player using the ESS driver set to 'CD' as input does nothing. 4. The power management does not seem to exploit the power saving functions of the hard disk switching it off when not needed. The cannot be set in the preferences either. Thanks a lot! -- --- Dr. Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. PGP-2.6.i key available!
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail header Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:51:12 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970115144705.1106A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like all email I send from my machine to have a From header that sends mail back to a different machine of mine. If I add a From header in Preferences->Expert, then all MIME mail I send has the new From header. However, all Nextmail and 'Plain text' simply adds on an extra From header that other mail programs apparently ignore. How can I get Nextmail and plain text to use only my new From header? Or is there another way to accomplish this? Thanks. Robert
From: thrall@serv.net (Dean Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenWrite.app and spell checking Date: 15 Jan 1997 07:07:31 GMT Organization: ServNet Internet Services Message-ID: <5bhvnj$5jh@brockman.serv.net> I just started using OpenWrite for my word processing needs and for some reason it does not spell check. All this time I thought that I just spelled exceptionally well when I noticed glaring errors on my resume, of all places :(. The app just gives the familiar beep like it has completed checking the document, but it in fact did nothing. Has anyone else noticed this or have any ideas why it would not check my document? I did notice that it does spell check inside the Help facility of OpenWrite, but not my documents. Anyway, tips appreciated to thrall@serv.net Thanks, dean
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 15 Jan 1997 04:29:31 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bhmfb$rb4@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar> <nervous-ya02408000R0301970202130001@news.netrover.com> <5ajjq7$bu@news.platinum.com> <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net> <MPG.d45ba729c0df226989681@news.xmission.com> kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) wrote: > In article <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net>, gmgraves@earthlink.net spouts > forth... > > Also > > the apps available for NeXT at this point are completely > > irrelevant. When the Mac system is NeXT, new versions of Mac > They are NOT irrelevant. Apple has said that developers can use today's > OpenStep to develop Rhapsody applications. So basically, today's NEXTSTEP > applications are really the first Rhapsody applications. Well, this probably isn't quite true. I doubt that Apple will port the NEXTSTEP shared libraries necessary to run NEXTSTEP apps. Today's OPENSTEP apps may be the first Rhapsody apps, so we need to get busy converting NEXTSTEP apps to OPENSTEP. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: sugee@imap2.asu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Cost of a NeXT Web Site? Date: 15 Jan 1997 22:59:01 GMT Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <5bjnfl$b79@news.asu.edu> I doubt that many advocates and customers like Chylser, CyberSlice, Nissan, and etc. as the list goes on, will argue about the merits of using NeXT's Web technologies for deploying their Web sites. We have all heard plenty and are proud of what is being accomplished. However, what I haven't heard anything about, something which curiously dawned on me recently and after reviewing what some of these folks are doing, is the cost of implementing and deploying these Web Sites. Can anybody provide approximate costs or actual figures of sites like these? I do respect people's anonymity. Cheers, Sue
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Home Finance Software for OpenStep? Date: 15 Jan 1997 05:26:34 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5bhpqa$o5d@news.digifix.com> References: <5bgjka$kd4@aadt.sdt.com> In-Reply-To: <5bgjka$kd4@aadt.sdt.com> On 01/14/97, Eric Smalling wrote: >Are there any good (comperable to Quicken 6 or 7) home finance software app's >for the OpenStep/NextStep? At home I use WinBlows 95 and would love to get a >copy of OpenStep for Mach (for Intel) but I really don't think I'd like >dual-booting just so I can update my Quicken Register every day. > > Currently there is CheckSum, which is marketed by Stone Design (www.stone.com)... I have pretty near zero interest in financials though, so I've never used it. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.mach From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: OS Componenets of OpenStep for Mach Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E421ww.2CE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:05:20 GMT References: <5bhkt2$t78@manuel.ocs.mq.edu.au> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5bhkt2$t78@manuel.ocs.mq.edu.au>, Jon Tidswell <jont@mri.mq.edu.au> wrote: >[ Note Cross posts ] > >Ive failed to find any concrete details about which version of Mach, >NeXT is using. NeXTSTEP and OPENSTEP/Mach use a 2.5 kernel with NeXT extensions (I don't remember exactly what those are at the moment...) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 15 Jan 97 01:26:48 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF01E2DD-A9293@207.147.62.88> References: <5bhmfb$rb4@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.mac.advocacy On Tue, Jan 14, 1997 11:29 PM, Art Isbell <mailto:aisbell@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > Well, this probably isn't quite true. I doubt that Apple will port the > NEXTSTEP shared libraries necessary to run NEXTSTEP apps. Today's > OPENSTEP > apps may be the first Rhapsody apps, so we need to get busy converting > NEXTSTEP apps to OPENSTEP. this is a pretty accurate statement. Take a look at NeXT's website. They now have a MacOS section that basically says that OpenStep applications can easily be converted to the new MacOS. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701142207.RAA16371@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 23a3d73febfe7a85fc194ec29082925a - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 17:07:12 -0500 Subject: ID4 and Apple (Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps?) Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 23a3d73febfe7a85fc194ec29082925a - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: deniseh@nntp.best.com (Denise Howard) Original Date: 13 Jan 1997 22:36:21 GMT > Yeah, the friend I was with smirked "Good thing the aliens use > TCP/IP!" someone on one of the humor e-lists I'm on sent a '40 things I learned from ID4'... here are some relevant entries... 36. In 10 hours, one man with a Macintosh Laptop can code a virus in C++ that will take down a completely alien computer system. 37. Even though the Mac isn't compatible with most other Earthly operating systems, it can interface with an alien computer. 38. Alien network security is nonexistent. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a NeXTStep|OpenStep web page, email me the URL!]
From: Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep Solaris, Mail.app question. Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 22:13:42 +0100 Organization: Warty Wolfs Message-ID: <9701152113.AA04611@basil.icce.rug.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.1mach v148) In article <5bdad3$bpe@iese.iese.fhg.de>, Jean-Marc DeBaud wrote: > Just wondering if there is a version of Enhancemail > that works with Solaris OpenStep 1.1 Mail.app? I would be very surprised if it actually existed. A port to OS/Solaris' Mail.app is non-trivial, as EnhanceMail trojan-horses itself in place by posing as a fair number of internal Mail.app classes. I expect the internals of OS/Solaris' Mail.app to be quite different from the NeXT version (OSsified for one). And the functionality EM adds is not necessarily well separated from the Mail.app classes it overrides... (in laymans' terms: it's a hack:-) -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "Any magic sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable __/ _/_/ from a perl script" -- Larry Wall, mangled
From: rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:38:28 -0800 Organization: Quicksilver Software, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <rbarris-ya023280001501971738280001@news.quicksilver.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> <5bjqem$n3@catapult.gatech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5bjqem$n3@catapult.gatech.edu>, gt7357a@acmey.gatech.edu (Tp12a) wrote: > Rob Barris (rbarris@quicksilver.com) wrote: > : Fact is all 68K's offer a unified 32-bit programmer model, for pointers > : and integers. True, the original 68000 had a 16-bit external data bus and > : only 24 bits of physical address bus, but this is also why we call Pentium > : and Pentium Pro "32 bit processors" and not 64 bits: it's commonly accepted > : to look at the ALU word width or address space size as the "bitness" of a > : processor. > > I always thought "bit-ness" was a wholly contrived term from > marketing-types... It seems to me that the only instance in which "bit-ness" > is really significant is on the Intel 80x86 series. I am not aware of any > other processor family that sports so many "modes" (8086 real mode, 80286 > protected mode, 80386 protected mode, 8086 virtual mode, "Merced" mode?). > Calling some piece of code "32-bit" is merely an abbreviation for the > horribly long-winded "80386 protected mode." It seems reasonable to consider "bitness" when comparing chips from different families, here you point out the fact that within the x86 family that there were and are several sets of ISA and memory addressing models available. But the terms "16-bit" "32-bit" "64-bit" are still useful, as long as you know the difference between "64bit address space", "32bit ALU", and "16bit data bus". Anyway, I was originally responding to Lance's implication that Motorola had somehow tried to pull a fast one on people by calling the 68K a 32-bit processor. I would consider the 386-SX a 32-bit processor, even though it has a 16-bit data bus, since it has 32-bit ALU, register model, and address space. Rob Barris Quicksilver Software Inc. rbarris@quicksilver.com * Opinions expressed not necessarily those of my employer *
From: gt7357a@acmey.gatech.edu (Tp12a) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 15 Jan 1997 23:49:42 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5bjqem$n3@catapult.gatech.edu> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> Rob Barris (rbarris@quicksilver.com) wrote: : Fact is all 68K's offer a unified 32-bit programmer model, for pointers : and integers. True, the original 68000 had a 16-bit external data bus and : only 24 bits of physical address bus, but this is also why we call Pentium : and Pentium Pro "32 bit processors" and not 64 bits: it's commonly accepted : to look at the ALU word width or address space size as the "bitness" of a : processor. I always thought "bit-ness" was a wholly contrived term from marketing-types... It seems to me that the only instance in which "bit-ness" is really significant is on the Intel 80x86 series. I am not aware of any other processor family that sports so many "modes" (8086 real mode, 80286 protected mode, 80386 protected mode, 8086 virtual mode, "Merced" mode?). Calling some piece of code "32-bit" is merely an abbreviation for the horribly long-winded "80386 protected mode." If the ALU word length determined the "bitness" of a processor, then my HP48 pocket calculator is a 64 bit machine, just like a DEC Alpha. If the maximum address space determined "bitness," a Commodore 64 would be a 16-bit machine... With virtual memory, an Intel 80486 would be a 40 bit machine! Go figure... Cheers, Phil : Rob Barris : Quicksilver Software Inc. : rbarris@quicksilver.com : * Opinions expressed not necessarily those of my employer * -- Philip C. Tsao (pronounced 'Philip C. Tsao') Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt7357a gt7357a@prism.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt7357a
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Toshiba Tecra 720CDT -- added hard drive Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:57:54 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970115145130.1106B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a single partition now on my Tecra with NS 3.3 on it. I need to run some Win95 programs and am weighing my options. If I don't want to reinstall NS then I can't use the current internal hard drive, right? Another option is to buy a second internal hard drive, install Win95 on it, and swap when I want to run Win95. Any problems with that? The last option I've thought of is to buy an external hard drive and do the same. First, can I get one for the Tecra and second, can I fairly simply configure the machine to boot off the external hard drive? Any other options? Thanks for any help. Robert
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: 15 Jan 1997 23:39:07 GMT Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC. Message-ID: <5bjpqr$6t3@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bcske$5ps@news.platinum.com> <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Cc: jburton@nwu.edu In <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Joshua W. Burton wrote: > longsine@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) wrote: > > > DHCP is very important if you want to play in Windows shops. Might > > be your only way to get an IP address for your rouge Rhapsody box... > > Therefore it's important. > Porting DHCP client/server should be trivial, since BPF runs fine on NS it is not a big deal. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Alan Oehler <alan.oehler@tencor.com> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 09:08:53 -0800 Organization: Tencor Instruments Wafer Inspection Div., Tech Pubs Message-ID: <32D52625.78FA@tencor.com> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <32ca9679.31095302@news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Craig A. Keefner wrote: > > On Wed, 01 Jan 1997 08:47:33 -0500, Arnold Shore > <ashore@dgs.dgsys.com> wrote: > > >Counter question: Why bother with Acrobat and PDF? > > > >If (big if!) your primary intent is to develop a web site, then products > >pointed towards that capability would be a better solution, MS's > >FrontPage being a good example. > > "my" website includes a major airline which has financial reports > that legal prefers are displayed in one look and one look only. > html cannot approach it. Thus pdf files or java applets (of ms > documents). > > Craig Yeah, that seems to be the main distinction -- if you have documents that must maintain precise formatting, pagination, etc. when delivered online, Acrobat or something similar is definitely the way to go. -Alan
From: no_spam@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 16 Jan 1997 02:37:46 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> Rob Barris (rbarris@quicksilver.com) wrote: : (Tp12a) wrote: : > Rob Barris (rbarris@quicksilver.com) wrote: : > : Fact is all 68K's offer a unified 32-bit programmer model, for pointers : > : and integers. True, the original 68000 had a 16-bit external data bus and : > : only 24 bits of physical address bus, but this is also why we call Pentium : > : and Pentium Pro "32 bit processors" and not 64 bits: it's commonly accepted : > : to look at the ALU word width or address space size as the "bitness" of a : > : processor. : > : > I always thought "bit-ness" was a wholly contrived term from : > marketing-types... It seems to me that the only instance in which "bit-ness" : > is really significant is on the Intel 80x86 series. I am not aware of any : > other processor family that sports so many "modes" (8086 real mode, 80286 : > protected mode, 80386 protected mode, 8086 virtual mode, "Merced" mode?). : > Calling some piece of code "32-bit" is merely an abbreviation for the : > horribly long-winded "80386 protected mode." : It seems reasonable to consider "bitness" when comparing chips from : different families, here you point out the fact that within the x86 family : that there were and are several sets of ISA and memory addressing models : available. But the terms "16-bit" "32-bit" "64-bit" are still useful, as : long as you know the difference between "64bit address space", "32bit ALU", : and "16bit data bus". : Anyway, I was originally responding to Lance's implication that Motorola : had somehow tried to pull a fast one on people by calling the 68K a 32-bit : processor. I would consider the 386-SX a 32-bit processor, even though it : has a 16-bit data bus, since it has 32-bit ALU, register model, and address : space. I seem to recall that 68000 processor actually had 16 bit ALU's, there were some "32 bit" adds and subtracts which were acoomplished via 2 passes to the 16 bit ALU, so 32 bit operations actually took twice as long. Was my memory faulty or is this indeed the case? : Rob Barris : Quicksilver Software Inc. : rbarris@quicksilver.com : * Opinions expressed not necessarily those of my employer *
From: mmunz@inconnect.com (Mark Munz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: 16 Jan 1997 03:49:39 GMT Organization: Puppy Dog Software Message-ID: <mmunz-1501972049040001@slc-dial-56.inconnect.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bcske$5ps@news.platinum.com> <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5bedv8$es2@news.platinum.com> <32DBBE9E.1DA3@exnext.com> <32DD433A.285B@cts.com> In article <32DD433A.285B@cts.com>, pnatona@cts.com wrote: > I installed the eclipse setting in Kaleidescope to >get that cool black look and Smart Scroll for that Next windowing >thing. Replaced the Mac trash with the Next recycler icon too. Now I >dont have next withdrawls. > There's a NeXT Copland Kaleidoscope add-on. If you're after the NeXT look, it's definitely worth a look. Mark Munz
From: davisre@best.com (Robert Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Showstopper bug in Quantrix? Date: 15 Jan 1997 21:07:07 -0800 Organization: floam Message-ID: <5bkd1r$4gu@shellx.best.com> References: <5bfk4g$v8j@omega.gmd.de> <5bisfl$7bo@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> Wolfgang Roeckelein <wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de> wrote: > >In article <5bfk4g$v8j@omega.gmd.de> Jelske.Kloppenburg@gmd.de writes: >> >> I have a better answer! In the wrapper find >> English.lproj/Charts/3D >> and rename '3D' to a longer name - '3DD' works >> but if you have a better name ... > >Are you sre this works? Q seems now to crash when you select a 3D chart >type and press return: > >Jan 15 16:36:10 pcrw04 Quantrix[2398]: objc: LCGraphic: does not recognize >selector -axes > Actually, Quantrix 2.3 does not support 3D charts -- notice there is no UI for making a 3D chart. Unfinished development in the charting engine was accidentally exposed by including some test 3D templates in the shipping product (lucky you). The official answer is "delete them" and things will stop crashing. The unofficial answer is play around and have fun -- just save frequently. Rob -- Rob Davis Work: davis@lighthouse.com Home: davis@coaster.com
From: Allan MacKinnon <allanmac@blueprint.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OS/NT 4.1 and grayscale monitor Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:27:58 -0500 Organization: B L U E P R I N T Message-ID: <32DD3DCE.4D99@blueprint.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a 21" grayscale monitor running at 1600x1200 using a #9GXE-64Pro. This setup is _great_ under native NEXSTEP/OPENSTEP. I've really been happy w/it. But... NT assumes I'm running a color monitor, so the color palette is full of RGB values that are worthless to me. Outside of boards by Artist Graphics, I have never seen an NT driver that allows you to select a grayscale palette. So, two questions: - Does anyone know how to set OS/NT 4.1 DPS to use a grayscale palette? Is this possible? - Does anyone know of any way to force a standard NT video driver to use a grayscale palette? I hesitate to ask this question outside of the NeXT newsgroups because it would probably result in annoying answers like "Windows requires a color monitor." Allan MacKinnon allanmac@blueprint.com
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You know that, you've seen the stories in the paper. So, my friend, read and follow the simple instructions and play fair. Thats the key, and thats all there is to it. Print this out right now so you can refer back to this article easily. Try to keep an eye on all the postings you made to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name sould be. If you're really not sure or still think this can't be for real, then don't do it. But please print this article and pass it along to someone you know who really needs the bucks, and see what happens. REMEMBER...HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT THE BASIC IDEA TO MAKE THE BUCKS! GOOD LUCK TO ALL, AND PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND YOU WILL WIN AND MAKE SOME REAL INSTANT FREE CASH! *** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending th bucks to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent the 5 bills, people added him to their lists and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10.000! TRY IT AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY!!!! :))))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.transputer,comp.sys.unisys,comp.sys.xerox,comp.sys.zenith.z100,comp.terminals,comp.terminals.bitgraph,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: <cancel.5bkek0$fah@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> Control: cancel <5bkek0$fah@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <5bkek0$fah@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> no reply ignore Organization: Semi-Automatic Chain Letter Remover Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 05:36:48 GMT Sender: martin.boucher@cgocable.ca ($$$ EASY MONEY $$$) ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov. Make Money Fast has been posted thousands of times, enough to qualify as cancel-on-sight spam. The chain letter scheme it describes is illegal in many countries. For example, see: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm J. Porter Clark, d/b/a The Unknown News Administrator
From: dadler@u.washington.edu (David Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: converting .draw files to other formats Date: 16 Jan 1997 05:39:57 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <5bkevd$qm9@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <5bdvi7$qs@coopers.cs.ubc.ca> <5bet7u$ace@news.next.com> In-Reply-To: <5bet7u$ace@news.next.com> On 01/13/97, Mark Bessey wrote: >David Poole writes >> ...so how can I translate .draw files to >> another format that can be edited using some standard drawing package >> (probably on a PC)... [.eps or .tiff is no good as they cannot be >> edited]. >> >> Thanks for any help you can give, >> David >> poole@cs.ubc.ca > >Actually, both EPS and TIFF are *both* editable formats. I'd hate to >think that your book publisher doesn't have a copy of either Photoshop >or Illustrator. Seriously, though, either ImageViewer.app (available on >the usual NeXT archive sites) or OmniImage.app (www.omnigroup.com) can >convert ps files to any number of other formats...So: print, save the PS >to a file, and convert away! > >Hope this helps, > >-Mark >-- >Mark Bessey >NeXT Software, Inc >Software Quality Assurance >-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <-- > If these are really drawings, i.e. vector-based graphics, then, I think, there is a sort of problem. If you import EPS into Illustrator or FreeHand or Canvas or Corel (at least the versions I have used) you get a graphic object, resizable and moveable but not truely editable. There is a possible solution, save as EPS from Draw, open, or copy and paste, in Tailor (IMO one of those killer NeXT apps, it's on the Mac now too) Tailor has "made editable" just about any .ps or .eps file I have thrown at it, allowing full text and graphic element editing. Tailor can then save in Illustrator format for moving to the other "platforms". (I am not financially involved with the folks who make and distribute Tailor just a satisfied customer). David -- -- David Adler, Ph.D. scientist "Science is nothing but trained and organized common sense" T.H.Huxley
From: ts110@pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the best Web Browser for 3.2 Black? Date: 16 Jan 1997 05:50:11 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5bkfij$av2@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> tralala@mlink.net wrote: : Get OmniWeb v.2.5.b2 (current version) Don't OmniWeb versions 2.0 and above require NS3.3? Tomaz
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970116.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970109.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970102.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 16 Jan 1997 06:00:00 -0700 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
From: kelley@mudpot.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep Solaris, Mail.app question. Date: 16 Jan 1997 13:57:29 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <5blc49$1qge@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> References: <9701152113.AA04611@basil.icce.rug.nl> in version 1.1 of solaris/openstep, there is a quoting option. we missed mailhelper too but the new version will solve this quoting problem for us.
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@hc.ti.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:37:40 -0600 Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. Message-ID: <32DE4B44.670F@hc.ti.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <E42oHA.7Ix@onevision.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > PPP multilink > maybe someone should check if this already on the wishlist of the "free" > PPP? Probably not as there is not much of a demand. There are other things that will take priority. Specifically, kernel based demand dial, better installation app, and tracking down that pesky "connect" panic. Course, things could change... ;). I'm also looking at ISDN and ADSL drivers for those who are interested... Requests can be made at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ (in the bug report/feedback section). Now is the time as I'm ramping up to dig back into PPP soon... - Steve -- Stephen J. Perkins Tel. +1(972)995-0029, Fax +1(972)995-6194, e-mail: perkins@ti.com Texas Instruments, P.O. Box 655474, MS 446, Dallas, TX 75265
From: christw@lexis-nexis.com (Christopher C. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:26:10 GMT Organization: LEXIS-NEXIS, Dayton OH Message-ID: <5blkr2$sdm@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> References: <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> <rbarris-ya023280001501972305040001@news.quicksilver.com> In article <rbarris-ya023280001501972305040001@news.quicksilver.com>, rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) writes: |> In article <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu>, no_spam@Glue.umd.edu |> (David T. Wang) wrote: |> > Rob Barris (rbarris@quicksilver.com) wrote: |> > : Anyway, I was originally responding to Lance's implication |> > : that Motorola had somehow tried to pull a fast one on people by |> > : calling the 68K a 32-bit processor. I would consider the |> > : 386-SX a 32-bit processor, even though it has a 16-bit data |> > : bus, since it has 32-bit ALU, register model, and address |> > : space. |> > I seem to recall that 68000 processor actually had 16 bit ALU's, |> > there were some "32 bit" adds and subtracts which were |> > acoomplished via 2 passes to the 16 bit ALU, so 32 bit operations |> > actually took twice as long. Was my memory faulty or is this |> > indeed the case? |> The original 68000 did indeed have a 16-bit ALU and the behavior |> of which you speak. This did not change until the 68020 if memory |> serves. On the other hand, this behavior was invisible to the machine code. It's just an implementation detail. Replace the microcode and 16-bit ALU with a 32-bit ALU. Performance goes up on all your software. A lot like increasing the clock speed. Chris -- Speaking only for myself, of course. Chris Wood christw@lexis-nexis.com cats@CFAnet.com
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the best Web Browser for 3.2 Black? Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:39:00 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5bllj4$163s@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5bkfij$av2@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <5bkfij$av2@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> On 01/15/97, Tomaz Slivnik wrote: >Don't OmniWeb versions 2.0 and above require NS3.3? Nope, 2.5 runs fine on 3.2 machines with the FoundationUserPatch package installed. See a NeXTAnswers Web server near you for your free copy. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: dynamic libraries Date: 16 Jan 97 11:02:22 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan16110222@howard.one.net> References: <01bc0301$291dca00$b4ac3895@ken.suite.com> In-reply-to: "Kenneth R. Fleming"'s message of 15 Jan 1997 16:21:27 GMT In article <01bc0301$291dca00$b4ac3895@ken.suite.com>, "Kenneth R. Fleming" <ken@suite.com> writes: We are attempting to use a few global variables within a dynamic library libtool doesn't like it. We get the error "common symbols not allowed in dynamic libraries" We can find no way to scope the variables to just within the library. Does anyone have any suggestions? You could put the variables as statics, with accessor functions, hidden behind macros: barf.h: #define myGlobal getMyGlobal() int getMyGlobal( void); barf.c: static int __myGlobal=someValue; int getMyGlobal( void) { return __myGlobal; } Hacky, sure, but it does the job, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 16 Jan 97 11:03:54 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: world Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan16110354@howard.one.net> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar> <nervous-ya02408000R0301970202130001@news.netrover.com> <5ajjq7$bu@news.platinum.com> <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net> <MPG.d45ba729c0df226989681@news.xmission.com> <5bhmfb$rb4@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> In-reply-to: aisbell@ix.netcom.com's message of 15 Jan 1997 04:29:31 GMT In article <5bhmfb$rb4@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>, aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) wrote: > In article <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net>, > gmgraves@earthlink.net spouts forth... > > Also the apps available for NeXT at this point are completely > > irrelevant. When the Mac system is NeXT, new versions of Mac > They are NOT irrelevant. Apple has said that developers can use > today's OpenStep to develop Rhapsody applications. So basically, > today's NEXTSTEP applications are really the first Rhapsody > applications. Well, this probably isn't quite true. I doubt that Apple will port the NEXTSTEP shared libraries necessary to run NEXTSTEP apps. Today's OPENSTEP apps may be the first Rhapsody apps, so we need to get busy converting NEXTSTEP apps to OPENSTEP. Beyond which, since NeXT apps available today don't have PPC in their Mach-O, it's a moot point. They can port the shared libraries all they want, but unless they put it in an emulation box (say, a _68k_ emulation box), it doesn't do much good at all. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: no_spam@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:36:09 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5blou9$ia8@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> Christopher C. Wood (christw@lexis-nexis.com) wrote: : On the other hand, this behavior was invisible to the machine code. : It's just an implementation detail. Replace the microcode and 16-bit : ALU with a 32-bit ALU. Performance goes up on all your software. A : lot like increasing the clock speed. Ofcourse, but this was one of the criteria which Mr Barris was using to determine the "bitness" of a processor, and I was simply pointing out that 68000 processors had 16 bit data paths, and 16 bit ALUs, Even though it had 32 bit registers, convention was that it was referred to as a 16 bit processor. : Chris : -- : Speaking only for myself, of course. : Chris Wood christw@lexis-nexis.com cats@CFAnet.com
From: embuck@palmer.cca.rockwell.com (Erik M. Buck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: killer apps for Apple/NeXT Date: 16 Jan 1997 01:31:25 GMT Organization: Rockwell Avionics - Collins Message-ID: <5bk0dd$jnq@castor.cca.rockwell.com> References: <32DD473F.334E@worldnet.att.net> Cc: ziziz@worldnet.att.net In <32DD473F.334E@worldnet.att.net> zizi zhao wrote: > Dean Hall is looking for killer apps for Apple/NeXT OS. He says: > "So far > most of the stories have been about > Apple , I would really like to know > about how the deal affects NeXT > developers. Does anyone have a > killer app in the works? What about > game developers? " > in his webpage http://members.tripod.com/~dehall/nextstep.html One of the companies I contract for may just have the "killer app". Imagine building first class OpenStep objects (especially highly graphical animating ones) with no code at all. This thing could put Visual Basic out of the picture and or be a great way to build Visual Basic component ware. My company is in fact working on a high end game using all of the latest greatest NeXT technology. Sorry I can not give details. P.S. Renderman was already available for Mac
From: lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can beat shity Petium Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 16 Jan 1997 19:18:51 GMT Organization: UNINETT news service Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5bluur$ump$3@doffen.uninett.no> Nervous writes: : In article <edodge-0701972222360001@ip-pdx19-23.teleport.com>, : edodge@teleport.com (Edward Dodge) wrote: : €In article <32D20D7C.C75@rogerswave.ca>, jmiller@rogerswave.ca wrote: : € : €> Lasse Olsen wrote: : €> > : They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. : €> > Where can I buy one? : €> > Cheers... : €> The 533Mhz isn't out yet but you can buy a 225Mhz TODAY. : € : € : €Can buy a 250Mhz today as well, I think. I wonder where the 250Mhz PPro is? : You can get a 300Mhz 603e as well. Even multiprocessor 604e-based computers. So, again, where can I buy it at 533Mhz? Cheers...
From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: vgrind help? Date: 16 Jan 1997 18:52:36 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5bltdk$ioq@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> When I try to use vgrind, I get the following: # vgrind area.cc pscat: trouble reading .ct file lpr: stdin: empty input file # What do I need to do to so that vgrind works? Thanks. Randy -- Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o __o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\, _`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> | (*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\, FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu http://www.geography.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jackson/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701160453.UAA20139@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 23:52:52 -0500 Subject: new mail bundle and NeXT employee's web pages Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary hey y'all, someone told me about a new bundle for Mail.app at http://www.next.com/~eseymour (I can't find the message to tell you exactly who it was) It is called Colorizer, and looks rather cool if you have a color machine, which I don't. ya know, it would be a lot of fun if NeXT.com would give us some idea of how to access their employees' web pages.... I've been told by a few people about cool things that are on someone's pages @next.com, but I don't know how to find them. Does anyone out there know how? TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
Newsgroups: comp.lang.tcl,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Re: Help!!! Tcl7.6/Tk4.2 compile errors on Openstep4.0 black (LONG) Message-ID: <E44E15.86p@free.fdn.fr> Sender: news@free.fdn.fr Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant. References: <32dd6305.171085267@ceco> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 21:22:17 GMT In article <32dd6305.171085267@ceco>, you wrote: > Hi Tcl/Tk & Next community! > > Subject says it all. I am encountering compile errors while trying to > install Tcl7.6 on a NextStation (32Mb) Mono running Openstep 4.0 > developer. > > Here is the output... > [....] > tclUnixFCmd.c: In function `TclpCreateDirectory': > tclUnixFCmd.c:430: `S_IRUSR' undeclared (first use this function) > tclUnixFCmd.c:430: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > tclUnixFCmd.c:430: for each function it appears in.) > tclUnixFCmd.c:430: `S_IWUSR' undeclared (first use this function) > tclUnixFCmd.c:430: `S_IXUSR' undeclared (first use this function) > tclUnixFCmd.c: In function `CopyFileAtts': > tclUnixFCmd.c:826: storage size of `tval' isn't known > tclUnixFCmd.c:829: `S_IRWXU' undeclared (first use this function) > tclUnixFCmd.c:829: `S_IRWXG' undeclared (first use this function) > tclUnixFCmd.c:829: `S_IRWXO' undeclared (first use this function) > *** Exit 1 > Stop. Make sure you have the included header <bsd/sys/stat.h> tclUnixFCmd.c #include <bsd/sys/stat.h> > > > Help me please. I am a lowly sysadmin trying to write scripts in > Tcl/Tk, expect, and Perl. All of these have compiled fine at work > under NT3.51 and Solaris2.x (sparc). I'd really like to get to use > this lovely unix environment at home. > > TIA > > eric chu > echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com Hope that helps. Fabien --- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 (0)1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 (0)1 48 55 09 90 GSM: 33 (0)6 60 46 36 83
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701151447.GAA20934@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: dfd98c1bce2ae1fb613926d5d5c1f4ff - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 09:46:45 -0500 Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.5beta: 777 bug? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com, omniweb-l@omnigroup.com References: dfd98c1bce2ae1fb613926d5d5c1f4ff - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Original Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:21:20 GMT Message-ID: dfd98c1bce2ae1fb613926d5d5c1f4ff - > I was using ~/anon_ftp as scratch and download directory, and it > was that which it kept setting to 777. I wonder what the difference > is...? You might try the OmniWeb discussion list: omniweb-l@omnigroup.com Someone there might know TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
From: Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NuAM Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:47:04 -0800 Organization: DataSphere Sender: mycroft@chrome.datasphere.net Message-ID: <x7hgkhqgaf.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Hi all...I have been thinking about using NuAM for voicemail/fax with my Zyxel U1496E. Has anyone experienced any problems with this ? The cost of 'mix' seemed a bit oppresive, so I started looking for another solution. How do the two apps compare ? .mycroft -- [:]====================================================================[:] [\] Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> >>>>>[DataSphere]<<<<< [=] [=] Key fingerprint = DD B1 A7 D9 2D DF A0 F7 23 C2 6B EC 5A AD 01 A9 [\] [:]====================================================================[:]
From: crobato@kuentos.guam.net Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: 17 Jan 1997 01:28:28 GMT Organization: Kuentos Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5bmkjs$oq@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> References: <5b11c5$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <AEFB9EC9-369E0@207.158.13.84> <5b7km0$o68@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <32d7fc3d.82279872@client.sw.news.psi.net> <5ba00l$321@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> <32da8f2b.251026236@client.sw.news.psi.net> <5bfjit$8km@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> <32dc9fc0.529753@news.onramp.net> <32DC5F69.126@rust.net> <32dce58b.422340@news.onramp.net> In <32dce58b.422340@news.onramp.net>, dcorn@paradise.pplnet.com (David Corn) writes: >On Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:39:05 -0500, bryan white <bwhite3@rust.net> >wrote: > >>> Compaq has had Klamath 266s for quite a while now. >> >>Have they sold any of these yet? > >No. > >>> deal from there, although I do want to see the 100 mhz busses - _that_ >>> will be an improvement. >> >>There seems to be at least one pentium MB running up to 83 MHZ (ASUS >>something or other). What is the PPro MB running at? > >66 mhz, isn't it? Yes, Asus runs at 83 mhz, although that isn't a >standard, supported spec from Intel. 100 mhz will be. Also a 33 mhz >ISA bus will be standardized, although I can't get excited about that. > No PC dealer right now in their right mind should recommend boosted motherboard speeds to 75MHz or 83MHz without fully supporting the consequences of their recommendations if they sold such systems to consumers. Rgds, Chris Famous People on the Day Windows 95 is Launched--- Neil Armstrong---"One Small Fortune for Bill Gates, One Giant Leap backward for Mankind." President Roosevelt---"This date shall live in infamy." *** crobato@kuentos.guam.net *** TKS for the Contributions.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9701161329.AA00500@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 14:29:20 +0100 Subject: Q: NeXTmail counter without logging in There is a program, that shows the number of mail-messages each user received, without logging in! It shows the numbers besides the NeXTlogin-panel! Anybody knows what this program is called?? Any pointers?? Thanx! Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with AppleSTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news ---
From: no_spam@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 17 Jan 1997 01:01:43 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5bmj1n$lne@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> Darin Johnson (darin@connectnet1.connectnet.com) wrote: : >Ofcourse, but this was one of the criteria which Mr Barris was using to : >determine the "bitness" of a processor, and I was simply pointing out that : >68000 processors had 16 bit data paths, and 16 bit ALUs, Even though it : >had 32 bit registers, convention was that it was referred to as a 16 bit : >processor. : As for myself (eveyrone has a different take on it, as there is no ISO : standard for computer terminology), the assembler language was 32-bit, : so I called the chip a 32-bit cpu. Ie, to the assembler programmer, : the 68000 and 68020 are essentially the same (minus a few instructions : and trap handling). It makes it hard when the programmer's model is different than the architecture. Do you call the processor by what it presents to you, or do you call it by what it is doing underneath? Reminds me of the PPro CISC/RISC debate. : Of course, this breaks down with the x86 series, since the chips run : multiple modes. But these chips are very unique as well (what other : cpu had 3 or more modes that it dealt with?). If restricting yourself : to "primary" modes, the one most used, or intended to be most used, : then you can still classify them this way (despite the fact that many : people still used real-modes in 386 and higher chips). : -- : Darin Johnson : darin@connectnet.com
From: Graeme Bentley <Graeme.Bentley@Fujitsu.com.au> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:03:35 -0800 Organization: Fujitsu Australia, Systems Development Software Group Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32DFCD07.3AAE@Fujitsu.com.au> References: <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> <rbarris-ya023280001501972306580001@news.quicksilver.com> <doenges.853411327@lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric Doenges wrote: <...snip...> > In fact, some early (~70s) computer had a > 12 bit CPU (can't remeber what it was and who made it) that worked bit > seriell internally, but nobody would call it a one bit computer. There's a 'blast from the past'. It was the DEC PDP-8/S (serial==slow). It had a horrible addressing scheme. One could address relative +/-128words, or absolute to either 'page 0' or current page (of instruction), or indirect through a page 0/current pointer. Then in addition one could switch 'fields' (banks). The system I worked on started off with a (paper) tape system monitor then we upgarded with a 32K word (direct addressable) disk. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Graeme T. Bentley (Graeme.Bentley@fujitsu.com.au) "Vive et Vivus" Fujitsu Australia Ltd, Melbourne. (standard disclaimers apply) ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: dcorn@paradise.pplnet.com (David Corn) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:30:28 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32e6d5e1.87728943@news.onramp.net> References: <5b11c5$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <AEFB9EC9-369E0@207.158.13.84> <5b7km0$o68@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <32d7fc3d.82279872@client.sw.news.psi.net> <5ba00l$321@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> <32da8f2b.251026236@client.sw.news.psi.net> <5bfjit$8km@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> <32dc9fc0.529753@news.onramp.net> <32DC5F69.126@rust.net> <32dce58b.422340@news.onramp.net> <5bmkjs$oq@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 17 Jan 1997 01:28:28 GMT, crobato@kuentos.guam.net wrote: >>66 mhz, isn't it? Yes, Asus runs at 83 mhz, although that isn't a >>standard, supported spec from Intel. 100 mhz will be. Also a 33 mhz >>ISA bus will be standardized, although I can't get excited about that. > >No PC dealer right now in their right mind should recommend boosted >motherboard speeds to 75MHz or 83MHz without fully supporting the >consequences of their recommendations if they sold such systems to >consumers. Check on comp.sys.ibm.pc.motherboards or somesuch and you'll see that there's an incredibly high success rate with dozens of different motherboards. 75 mhz gotten to be pretty old hat by now, and Asus 83 mhz boost is the newest rage. ________________________________________________ Reachable at: 713 629 6947 nights Please quote in all replies
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for a sorting service Date: 15 Jan 1997 22:52:11 GMT Organization: -=MO.NET=- MVP-Net, Inc's Missouri Operations Message-ID: <5bjn2s$4fj@twain.mo.net> Since I don't use my black hardware at home any more, I'm trying to come up with something that will work on Intel hardware that can replace "Selesort." This is a handy service that allows you to select lines of text and have them sorted and returned in place. It has some other bells and whistles that provide for delimiters and columns, sort order, etc. I have looked for a replacement for a long time but have never found anything. Anybody have any suggestions on what I could use for a replacement? Thanks for your suggestions. John
From: darin@connectnet1.connectnet.com (Darin Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 16 Jan 1997 18:52:24 GMT Message-ID: <slrn5dsu77.9nu.darin@connectnet1.connectnet.com> References: <5blou9$ia8@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> >Ofcourse, but this was one of the criteria which Mr Barris was using to >determine the "bitness" of a processor, and I was simply pointing out that >68000 processors had 16 bit data paths, and 16 bit ALUs, Even though it >had 32 bit registers, convention was that it was referred to as a 16 bit >processor. As for myself (eveyrone has a different take on it, as there is no ISO standard for computer terminology), the assembler language was 32-bit, so I called the chip a 32-bit cpu. Ie, to the assembler programmer, the 68000 and 68020 are essentially the same (minus a few instructions and trap handling). Of course, this breaks down with the x86 series, since the chips run multiple modes. But these chips are very unique as well (what other cpu had 3 or more modes that it dealt with?). If restricting yourself to "primary" modes, the one most used, or intended to be most used, then you can still classify them this way (despite the fact that many people still used real-modes in 386 and higher chips). -- Darin Johnson darin@connectnet.com
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Home Finance Software for OpenStep? Date: 17 Jan 1997 00:12:19 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5bmg53$i9n@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5bgjka$kd4@aadt.sdt.com> <5bhpqa$o5d@news.digifix.com> Cc: sanguish@digifix.com In <5bhpqa$o5d@news.digifix.com> Scott Anguish wrote: > On 01/14/97, Eric Smalling wrote: > >Are there any good (comperable to Quicken 6 or 7) home finance software > app's > >for the OpenStep/NextStep? At home I use WinBlows 95 and would love to get > a > >copy of OpenStep for Mach (for Intel) but I really don't think I'd like > >dual-booting just so I can update my Quicken Register every day. > > > > > > Currently there is CheckSum, which is marketed by Stone Design > (www.stone.com)... > > I have pretty near zero interest in financials though, so I've never > used it. > > > Checksum; yes it is true, it is (perhaps more) basic (than current Quicken), and it works very well. I have been using it here since 1993, when I switched from quicken for mac (which was being used on NeXT with Executor). I run a business (simply) with it. Give stone-site a look! Rick Sanford Dental Records[tm] dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/
From: "Eric Brown" <ebrown@pointcast.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where are the ftp software archives? Date: 17 Jan 1997 02:00:22 GMT Organization: scruz-net Message-ID: <01bc041a$2c914530$3374e3a5@delphi> Where can I get new and old NextStep freeware and shareware? Thanks, Eric
From: sinclap2954@cobra.uni.edu (PETER SINCLAIR-DAY) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can beat shity Petium Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 16 Jan 97 19:16:28 -0600 Organization: University of Northern Iowa Distribution: inet Message-ID: <1997Jan16.191628.1@cobra.uni.edu> References: <5bluur$ump$3@doffen.uninett.no> In article <5bluur$ump$3@doffen.uninett.no>, lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) writes: > So, again, where can I buy it at 533Mhz? > Cheers... Spring time.. From Power, Apple, Motorola and Umax.. GREETINGS.. |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Peter Sinclair-Day POWERMAC OF COURSE.... | | University of Northern Iowa | I I I Do you believe in Macintosh? Learn how to help the cause by subscribing I I to the "EvangeList" listserver! Send email to:<evangelist@macway.com> or I I go to: <http://www.solutions.apple.com/ListAdmin/>. I |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| "Rush Limbaugh is for people who aren't mature enough for Barney..." ....David E. Romm - Shockwave
From: jmosher@think.com (Jessica Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: alternative ppp source? Date: 16 Jan 1997 22:50:21 -0500 Organization: Newsgate Sender: root@bone.think.com Message-ID: <9701170345.AA02006@custard.think.com> I tried getting the NeXT ppp source from www.thoughtport.com, but it wouldn't let me download it--no permissions. Do I _have_ to use a web browser? I looked at the old site at ftp.duq.edu, but they no longer have a next directory. Is there another ftp site where I can get this software via anonymous login? Or will I have to use Netscape or another web browser? Thanks for any pointers! Please send mail. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Thinking Machines Corporation Systems Support Engineer c/o American Express ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ jmosher@Think.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701161858.KAA16658@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 0a795bbd8b7ac92beeb235bf49e2602a - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 13:58:44 -0500 Subject: Re: What is the best Web Browser for 3.2 Black? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 0a795bbd8b7ac92beeb235bf49e2602a - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: ts110@pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) Original Date: 16 Jan 1997 05:50:11 GMT > : Get OmniWeb v.2.5.b2 (current version) > > Don't OmniWeb versions 2.0 and above require NS3.3? as someone has no doubt pointed out by now... No, but you will need the FoundationUserPatch, which you can find at my NeXTStep web page (see .sig) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
From: jhsterne@mindspring.com.nospam (Jason S.) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:09:46 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Distribution: inet Message-ID: <jhsterne-ya02408000R1701970009460001@news.mindspring.com> References: <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> <rbarris-ya023280001501972306580001@news.quicksilver.com> <doenges.853411327@lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> <32DFCD07.3AAE@Fujitsu.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <32DFCD07.3AAE@Fujitsu.com.au>, Graeme.Bentley@Fujitsu.com.au wrote: > Eric Doenges wrote: > <...snip...> > > In fact, some early (~70s) computer had a > > 12 bit CPU (can't remeber what it was and who made it) that worked bit > > seriell internally, but nobody would call it a one bit computer. > > There's a 'blast from the past'. It was the DEC PDP-8/S (serial==slow). > It had a horrible addressing scheme. One could address relative > +/-128words, or absolute to either 'page 0' or current page (of > instruction), or indirect through a page 0/current pointer. > Then in addition one could switch 'fields' (banks). > The system I worked on started off with a (paper) tape system monitor > then we upgarded with a 32K word (direct addressable) disk. > -- What did you expect from a very inexpensive computer that was introduced in 1965? J.
From: rmcassid@uci.edu (Robert Cassidy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:13:05 -0700 Organization: UC Irvine Message-ID: <rmcassid-1701970113050001@dialin9226.slip.uci.edu> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <AEFF3074-2BB40@194.117.206.244> <32DAF6E5.416D33AA@screaming.org> In article <32DAF6E5.416D33AA@screaming.org>, Pohl Longsine <pohl@screaming.org> wrote: > Although I hate to equate such a beautiful operating system > with Plymouth automobiles, I think it is possible that the new > Apple operating system will be known as a "NeXT" operating > system for some time in some circles. Apple must be considering the official name of Rhapsody to be OpenStep 5.0, so you might be more right than you know. -Bob Cassidy
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:45:38 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu Message-ID: <5bdapi$39p@portal.gmu.edu> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: against my better judgment, I'll take this on... I'll take a stab at this, even though it's in the .advocacy circus as well... In article <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com>, Dayne Miller <dayne@wolfenet.com> wrote: >OK, after working with, next to and around several of the advanced >commercial "mainstream" OSes out in the world (NT 4, Solaris, IRIX, etc.) >as well as NEXTSTEP, it seems to me that there are several areas that >Rhapsody really needs to work on if Apple ever wants to be taken seriously >in the corporate/enterprise world. In particular, to compete with NT, >Rhapsody needs most of these. Among those: First off, I want to say that you don't appear entirely clear in some of what you're saying (to me at least). Second, I'm not interested in holy wars, like the current GX spam/bullshit that various nimrods are ranting about. I'll try to address what I can. >PPP multilink What exactly do you mena by "PPP multilink"? Do you mean mutiple PPP interfaces on a single workstation? Do you mean the ability to use PPP in a point to point virtual (i.e. non-serial) protocol layer? It's not clear. The current implementation of PPP in NeXTSTEP is very capable of acting as a server for multiple clients from a single machine. I don't know what the theoretical limit on it is, but I belive that for every reasonable use that anyone could possibly consider, that it is more than adequate. Beyond a certain level of useage, it really becomes much more sensible to invest in a dedicated terminal server. YMMV on what that threshold is. As for it's robustness, well it's pretty freakin robust. You can count on better performance than you could expect out of other PPP packages on other platforms. For instance it doesn't suffer from some of the problems you can see with it on an SGI where the port/daemon doesn't get reset on the server side... Also you can do things like make the server dial into the client, and make the client do the IP allocation for the server etc. etc. You can pretty much abstract the configuration layers to your hearts content. (Don't ask me to do this, or how to do it, unless you wanna pay me though, it's non-trivial.) >DHCP server/client DHCP server packages are around and from what I've seen of them, we arn't talking a hugely difficult port, if someone hasn't gotten around to it allready. There does need to be a client side done though from what I can tell. That aside, if you understand how Netinfo works, you'd understand that this isn't very neccesary to much of anything except compatability with NT. IMHO giving ground to Bill and his legion of dittoheads shouldn't be a huge priority. >ACLs This would be nice, but user/group/other works ok. I'd like to see it, but I wouldn't cry over it's absence. It would provide a nice advance in the OS though... >a decent filesystem (suggestion: license XFS from SGI?? It would > seem to be ideal for the multimedia market Apple is > pursuing.) The filesystem needs to include journaling, > support for large volumes (2 GB is ridiculously small), > compression (like NTFS has), etc. I'll agree with the first point, no reason to license anything though. There's plenty of capable folks between Apple and NeXT people to do this. Pursuing license agreements might be a good stratigic move for the multimedia market, but that's a pretty narrow area. As for compression. Can I say EWW! with disk prices today what they are, and considering that graphics don't compress worth spit, (and won't ever compress via filesystem compression) this is a real witless idea. I've never been at any corporation that allowed that crap on users desktops, and hopefully I never will be at one. You ever tried any advanced data recovery from a compressed disk? I'd rather read sectors by hand using "dd" and engage in other crypto-wizardry to recover 'lost' data (and I have) than mess with that crap. There's no sane reason fo this one. >on-the-fly configuration of *all* network parameters (e.g. change > DNS info, etc. without a reboot) This is a bad, bad idea. Might be good for small organizations & home use, but damned if I'd ever want that on my networks. It'd be a managment and configuration nightmare, and totaly exclusive to any secure rating you could give an OS. You want big security headaches? Do this one in a corp/gov environment. You'd have to be smokin crack to even consider allowing it in the door in that type of scenario. >multi-homing ability Plug another network card in. Configure it. Bango, your multihomed. I've heard of people doing it sucesfully, and I know of no reason why it can't be done. Correct me if I'm wrong please. >IPv6 support There's allready some support for SKIP, this needs to be redone/worked on according to the authors of it. I have contact info etc. if anyone's interested in it. The rest of the protocol needs to be on track, and there does need to be a serious plan for this. But to the desktop, we're years away from implementation globaly on this one. Hell, the nic & IANA need to get off their collective asses and free up namespace before IPv6 becomes more than allot of hot air. >a clear roadmap to 64-bitness within the next 2 years Yea, this needs to happen. >C2 (or better yet, B1) security configuration. Admittedly this > is mostly just hype (for instance, NT only achieves C2 > certification with all networking removed, floppy dis- > abled, etc.) but it's one of those buzzwords that IS > departments look for. Do you have any idea what it takes to make a system B1? I don't think you do. It's _damned_ hard to do. And it reduces usability drasticly. This is not something that's worth the time it takes for the market returns. As for NT's "C2" rating, it's a load of shit. Having done trusted system evaluations and ratings professionaly, I can tell you that "No floppy, no network" is a clear signal from the evaluation team that the rating is purely a political one, and that the system does not pass the requirements for C2, and can not be made to pass in the form being evaluated. As for politics entering into the equasion, if you don't belive they exist in that process you are woefully and stunningly naive. NT is NOT C2, it should not have ever gotten that rating, and I do not belive, based on knowledge of the massive list of security bugs it has, that in release form it can be made C2, even WITH no network and no floppy. . On the other hand, I belive NeXTSTEP can be made C2. And done with what's shipped stock too. As for what you said about IS departments, I agree, but it's also something (security) that most IS departments couldn't find with a flashlight to say the least. > >These just scratch the surface, but they're all important. I really hope >that Rhapsody can compete with NT down the road... It should be able to compete very well with NT, even in the face of Microsofts monopolist activities, and their generaly anti-competative behavior. Marketing is an enourmous issue. I just wish that competition could be on technical assets alone, if that were the case it'd be a hell of allot easier. Tim -- ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail, MIME) Tim Scanlon tfs@epic.org (PGP key aval.) crypto is good Seal Technologies Inc. I own my own words
From: rmcassid@uci.edu (Robert Cassidy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:34:13 -0700 Organization: UC Irvine Message-ID: <rmcassid-1701970134140001@dialin9226.slip.uci.edu> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bcske$5ps@news.platinum.com> <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu>, jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) wrote: > They're going to make them in _rouge_? Oh, gross! I thought beige > was bad enough.... > > What's wrong with matte black, anyway? It's good enough for every > cool piece of electronics on the planet _except_ computers, isn't it? Didn't you notice - green tint copper is the future. Only problem is sticky notes really blow the whole effect! -Bob Cassidy
From: scottm@nic.com (Scott Maxwell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:52:44 -0500 Organization: PETA (People for the Eating of Tasty Animals) Message-ID: <scottm-ya02408000R1701970152440001@news.erols.com> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <slrn5dqdku.lt8.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> <5bl0v3$rm5@duke.squonk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5bl0v3$rm5@duke.squonk.net>, Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: =>So, NeXTSTEP has two buttons, one of which would be an "action" >button, and the other is a "menu" or "information" button. This >is not like X, where you have three buttons and each application >makes up it's own mind as to what actions are triggered by which >button... > Cool. That's the same system the Amiga uses except the menubar appears at the top of the screen when you push the right button. -- -------------------------------- Scott Maxwell - scottm@nic.com "We are a fact-gathering organization only... the minute the FBI begins making recommendations on what should be done with its information, it becomes a Gestapo." -- J. Edgar Hoover
From: rsjoh@aol.com (Rsjoh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: NeXT Developer 3.3 for Black Hardware Date: 17 Jan 1997 06:36:41 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970117063600.BAA00225@ladder01.news.aol.com> The title says it all, please contact me if you have a CD (or floppies, no optical disks since I have a station and not a cube) your willing to sell. Scott Johnson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: jerry@icgned.nl (Jerry Martin van der Duim) Subject: laserwriter pro 810 ppd file Message-ID: <E45AE3.C3H@icgned.nl> Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: IC Group Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:01:15 GMT Hello, I'm looking for the ppd file for the laserwriter printer. I have tried at adobe but I got a hqx.sit file thing and that doesn't go to well on my NeXT machine. The laserwriter is an A3 printer which we like to use from our NeXT machines. Greetings J.M.D.
From: jn0729a@cage.cas.american.edu (Jon Nathan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cd-r software for next black Date: 17 Jan 1997 15:56:51 GMT Organization: American University, Washington DC Message-ID: <5bo7g3$itt$2@paladin.american.edu> if anyone could point me towards cd-recording software for next i would appreciate it. i have a 68040 black system with nextstep 3.3 please respond via email Jon Nathan jn0729a@american.edu
From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TOP Date: 17 Jan 1997 09:57:37 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <5bo7hh$8c8@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> References: <32DF96EE.34F@stevens-tech.edu> Ident-User: liuyi In article <32DF96EE.34F@stevens-tech.edu>, Brian Ward <bward@stevens-tech.edu> wrote: > >Does anyone know were I could get the source code for TOP. So I could >see the processes on the NeXT mach kernel? Try http://peanuts.leo.org/, I think I saw a version compiled for NeXT a couple of days ago. (Or ftp.evolution.com, which is the US mirror.) liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@anet-dfw.com> | <liuyi@usa.net> Dallas, TX
From: Pascal Chesnais <pascal@mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:32:46 -0500 Organization: MIT Media Laboratory Message-ID: <32DFA9AE.167E@mit.edu> References: <MPG.d45ba729c0df226989681@news.xmission.com> <5bh3k1$q1r@shelob.afs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gregory H. Anderson wrote: > > Kevin Pompei writes > > They are NOT irrelevant. Apple has said that developers can use today's > > OpenStep to develop Rhapsody applications. So basically, today's > > NEXTSTEP applications are really the first Rhapsody applications. > > Yeah. Isn't that GREAT?! If you look at the NeXT website, they have a Rhapsody documentation page. It does say that you will need to recompile the application to make it run on the new system. This does not suggest to me that current NEXTSTEP apps will run, only those written for OPENSTEP and recompiled for the new OS will run... pasc
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 17 Jan 1997 16:57:59 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5bob2n$5cf@shelob.afs.com> References: <32DFA9AE.167E@mit.edu> Pascal Chesnais <pascal@mit.edu> writes > Gregory H. Anderson wrote: > > > > Kevin Pompei writes > > > They are NOT irrelevant. Apple has said that developers can use today's > > > OpenStep to develop Rhapsody applications. So basically, today's > > > NEXTSTEP applications are really the first Rhapsody applications. > > > > Yeah. Isn't that GREAT?! > > If you look at the NeXT website, they have a Rhapsody documentation > page. It does say that you will need to recompile the application > to make it run on the new system. This does not suggest to > me that current NEXTSTEP apps will run, only those written for > OPENSTEP and recompiled for the new OS will run... Well, sure. But we have an enormous head start. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
From: Eirik Mangseth <emangset@online.no> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:50:30 +0100 Organization: United Consultants A/S Message-ID: <32D58446.2FD4@online.no> References: <5ap7mm$55b@doffen.uninett.no> <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se> <5aprft$af9@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit crobato@kuentos.guam.net wrote: > > In <5aplpa$bar@epimetheus.algonet.se>, froz@algonet.se (Mats Forssblad) writes: > >lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) wrote: > > > >>Robert Iacullo writes: > >>: jmiller wrote: > >>: > > >>: > If PowerPC chips are so shitty, then how come: > >>: > They are availiable at a faster Mhtz rating? (225Mhtz versus 200Mhtz) > >>: > They have been shown to be more efficient at equal Mhtz? > > > >>: They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. > > > >> Where can I buy one? > >> Cheers.. > > > >Rick Bergman, VP/Marketing for Exponential Technolog says: > >"We expect to go from 533 megahertz up to as much as a thousand > >megahertz or a gigahertz." > >(http://www.newmedianews.com/110996/lo_exponential.html) > > > >By the way, how fast (sorry, how many mhz) is the fastest > >mainframe/any cpu? > > > > Way lower than this. I think about 300MHz. > > It does not matter. Mainframes are not about MHz, just as super computers are > not as well. They are about fail safe reliability. They are about > multitentacled, multprocessor monsters with lotsa processors running in > parallel, talking to each other through buses that zip gigabytes per sec. > > Rgds, > > Chris > > Famous People on the Day Windows 95 is Launched--- > Neil Armstrong---"One Small Fortune for Bill Gates, > One Giant Leap backward for Mankind." > President Roosevelt---"This date shall live in infamy." > *** crobato@kuentos.guam.net *** TKS for the Contributions. Not only that, they've got an I/O subsystem that runs in circles around any so-called server based on e.g. x86. Eirik
From: glenn@nowsoft.com (Tod L. Glenn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Installing NeXTstep 3.3 Intel Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:32:15 -0800 Organization: Europa Communications Inc. [Portland, OR] Message-ID: <glenn-ya02408000R1701971032150001@news.europa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greetings, I recently aquired a copy of NeXTOS 3.3 for NeXT and Intel machines. The set includes a boot disk and CD. The boot disk appears to be for NeXT hardware only, and the CD does not seem to be in any common format (like ISO 9660) that allows it to be mounted on a PC. Is there some trick I'm missing to install, or do I need an Intel boot disk. And if so, where can I get one. -Thanks ---- Tod L. Glenn Internet Services Administrator Now Software ITG webmaster@nowsoft.com ---- http://www.nowsoft.com ftp://ftp.nowsoft.com listserv@nowsoft.com
From: togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:18:04 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) wrote: >> This is oh so true. I've got two 68K MOT instruction set manuals. One >> calls the processor a 16 bit unit, the other proudly announces it as >> an advanced 32 bit processor (SAME processor part number). One manual >> was before Apple literature described the 68K as a 32 bit processor, >> the other after - connection? This reminds me of the transistor count >> game that was played with transistor radios. I once disassembled a >> 14-transistor Radio Shack radio. 2 of the transistors were wired and >> used as diodes, 4 had ALL THREE leads soldered together and tacked >> here and there on the PCB. So, what I really had was an 8 transistor >> radio and 2 of those had little if any effect on performance. It's ALL >> in the marketing.... > > Bogus. Hey, I didn't write the manuals. If you think it's bogus, talk to MOT! The fact is, the timing of the manuals was just as I described. Looks like a clear attempt at impressing newbies. Unfortunately, for MOT, newbies and end users rarely order instruction set manuals. However, the point wasn't entirely lost as Apple had good time with it. > Fact is all 68K's offer a unified 32-bit programmer model, for pointers >and integers. True, the original 68000 had a 16-bit external data bus and >only 24 bits of physical address bus, but this is also why we call Pentium >and Pentium Pro "32 bit processors" and not 64 bits: it's commonly accepted >to look at the ALU word width or address space size as the "bitness" of a >processor. > Hardly. It MAY have been commonly accepted in the past - long past by computer standards. Now-a-days, you'd better explain just what you mean. My HP-48GX *calculator* has a 64-bit ALU. > You attribute malice or deception to simple confusion in literature and >terminology. The fact remains that flat 32-bit code could be and was >written on the 68000 from the very beginning, lots of it, this was and is a >benefit to its users. > This is an example what maketing does best. There was no confusion in the literature. MOT knew exactly what they were doing. I don't think malice or deception fits here. The programmers know what's going on and that's what counts. I'm surprised someone didn't add up all register bits and go with that figure. > If you don't believe me, why not pop over to comp.arch and ask some >folks around there whether they think the 68K family qualifies as a 32-bit >processor design, or if Moto tried to deceive anyone by promoting it as >such. > I don't give a hoot what comp.arch thinks about the 68K. I was pointing out what MOT, the manufacturer, said about.
From: TheCopyCatShop@noisp.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD Recordable Media Date: 18 Jan 1997 00:28:58 GMT Organization: The Copy Shop Message-ID: <5bp5ga$drj@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> We have the following CD-R media for sale. Brand: Pioneer Type: Printable Media (Surface is blank for printing or labels) Type: Gold on Green Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.99 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: Pioneer Type: Gold on Green Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.55 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: Maxell Type: Gold on Gold Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.55 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: TDK Type: Gold on Green Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.55 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: Hewlett Packard Type Gold on Gold Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 7.15 Minimum Order: 10 Lifetime Warranty The Copy Cat Shop has all your CD duplication, replication, recorders, software, and media needs. If you have any questions or comments feel free to call. Cordially, The Copy Cat Shop 213-650-1680 213-650-9110 Fax Email: angie@tccs.net
From: Yosi Hoshen <jhoshen@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Printer Driver Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 19:03:16 -0600 Organization: <Not Availabe> Message-ID: <32D59554.BC7@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a NeXT cube SW release 3.0 and a NeXT pronter. The NeXT coputer is runing SAMBA. Connected to the Cube is a PC. I can only print from the PC to the NeXT printer one page at the time. If I try to print entire document e.g. MS Word the printer does not print the document (unless I print it one page at a time) It gives a stack error. I have tried several printer drivers but the results are the same. Does any one has a suggestion on a possible driver or any other solution. Thanks -- Joseph (Yosi) Hoshen jhoshen@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (630) 369-0637 812 Shiloh Circle, Naperville, IL 60540 Work: (630) 979-4303, (630) 713-5398 (FAX), hoshen@lucent.com
From: jswitzer@aimnet.com (John Switzer) Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: 9 Jan 1997 15:53:56 -0800 Organization: Aimnet Corporation Message-ID: <5b40ek$fag@shell1.aimnet.com> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> In article <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br>, Carlos Kessel <carloskessel@montreal.com.br> wrote: >Arnold Shore <ashore@dgs.dgsys.com> wrote: > >>Counter question: Why bother with Acrobat and PDF? >... >>Arnold Shore >>Annapolis, MD > >That's my feeling too. But I think the points of including a >downloadable PDF file in a site would be: >- Maintaining the original design >- Including all images >- Avoiding the wages of the WebMaster. Don't forget that if you're using Framemaker 5, it's a heck of a lot easier to produce PDF than HTML - I just have to click a couple of buttons, print to PS, and distill. HTML is far from being this convenient. Also, if your customers will want to print the docs at any point, the PDF is superior to HTML. At least, that's the reason I'm giving for including on-line help in both PDF and HTML form - HTML is immediate, giving the customer the bare information they need, while PDF takes a little more time to deliver over the web but allows them to easily save a local copy and print it. Also, there are Acrobat's security features, but I'm not using those at the moment. -- John Switzer | "The camel has a mind of its own, a subtle and demented | psychosis as old as time and twice as huge: it is eating | my brain with a tea-spoon." - (favorable) review by jswitzer@aimnet.com | Charlie Stross of "Programming Perl" in The Perl Journal
From: John Schultz <jschultz@netten.net> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:49:55 -0600 Organization: T-Net Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32E01E31.2CD4@netten.net> References: <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> <rbarris-ya023280001501972306580001@news.quicksilver.com> <doenges.853411327@lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> <32DFCD07.3AAE@Fujitsu.com.au> <slrn5dvkfg.r74.darin@connectnet1.connectnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> In fact, some early (~70s) computer had a >> 12 bit CPU (can't remeber what it was and who made it) that worked bit >> seriell internally, but nobody would call it a one bit computer. I am trying to recall one of the replies to this piece. For some reason my ISP isn't getting everything here. While at work I see it all but my system isn't configured to reply. Yes DEC's PDP-8S was a "cheap" version of the PDP-8 that ran a 1-bit ALU through the 12 bits of data. I do not have any info on its speed. Since the PDP-8's speed was set by the core memory, the PDP-8S probably could process several bits in the 1.5 micro-second memory cycle. So I would expect that the PDP-8S was no 12 times slower. One point that might lead to a wrong conclusion was that the addressing was not relative as we now consider it. Direct addressing was limited to the 128 words of page 0 and the 128 words in the page where the PC was pointing. There were any number of times that the assembler complained because a I/O test loop TSF JMP .-1 crossed a page boundry!
From: root (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT help needed Date: 10 Jan 1997 04:09:11 GMT Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <5b4fd7$oq5@taurus.adnc.com> References: <spdwell-0601972321190001@adnline24077.adnc.com> Cc: spdwell@adnc.com In <spdwell-0601972321190001@adnline24077.adnc.com> spdwell@adnc.com wrote: > I have a NeXT Cube with 3.2 in it. I need help telling this > machine that in serial port A is a modem. How do I set up PPP? I'm > using a 14.4 Practical Peripherals modem and a properly modified cable. > Please help, send any information to > ..............cward@adnc.com.............cward@adnc.com............cward@adnc.com............cward@adnc.com................... > I am on the internet with a Next! How do I setup outgoing mail? I can do everything but send mail out...
From: stimpy@castlerock.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: new mail bundle and NeXT employee's web pages Date: 18 Jan 1997 01:36:51 GMT Organization: None today Message-ID: <5bp9fj$ln8@tkhut.sojourn.com> References: <199701160453.UAA20139@PEAK.ORG> In <199701160453.UAA20139@PEAK.ORG> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > hey y'all, someone told me about a new bundle for Mail.app at > > http://www.next.com/~eseymour > > It is called Colorizer, and looks rather cool if you have a color > machine, which I don't. hey, it's really cool.... I like it..... try it. thanks for the tip !
From: froz@algonet.se (Mats Forssblad) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:24:48 GMT Organization: AlgoNet Public Access Node, Stockholm Message-ID: <5b55du$nuq@epimetheus.algonet.se> References: <32BA667C.403A@sfbayrun.com> <59eoku$eih@mica.netsync.net> NNTP-Posting-User: b7fe697fc47f6ef7093c87732e2a5b740 jecobb@netsync.net (Justin Cobb) wrote: >Thomas Vincent (info@sfbayrun.com) wrote: >: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back, at Apple. >: >: To see what I am talking about, check out this LA TIMES article: >: http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/BUSINESS/t000111043.html >That article was promising and encouraging... >If the new MacOS has even half the advantages of Next, I may just have to >start taking it seriously again ;) There seems to be a uniform optimism about this project. I hate to make anyone disappointed, but I have a hunch they are going to f... mess it all up. We do not know that what is going to be produced is a Next that can, eventually, run old Mac binaries, do we? By the way, I got curious about the Next for pc, so I went to their web-page to see what the os costs. I could not find any information. So, with help of dejanews I found out that there IS no price right now, but it DID cost $ 895. Now, that IS STOOPID. No wonder it is not commercially popular. IF such an expensive OS is actually going to get integrated with an os that most people regard as free (even if it, actually is not, but few notice that there is a price), that is going to produce some...what shall we call it...interesting demand/price effects on the NextStep os right now, no?
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MovieApp v 3.0 supports QuickTime compressed with one specific scheme - Which? Date: 17 Jan 1997 22:43:16 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-e-69.usc.edu Message-ID: <5bova4$7b1@usc.edu> MovieApp v 3.0 supports QuickTime compressed with one specific scheme - Which? Which compressions scheme(s) does it support. OR -> What are the specs for making a QuickTime supported by MovieApp? -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How can I play animaged gifs on NS m68k? AND what does one need to properly set up xanim on NS m68k? Date: 17 Jan 1997 22:44:16 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-e-69.usc.edu Message-ID: <5bovc0$7b1@usc.edu> How can I play animaged gifs on NS m68k? AND what does one need to properly set up xanim on NS m68k? -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
From: darin@connectnet1.connectnet.com (Darin Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 17 Jan 1997 19:24:37 GMT Message-ID: <slrn5dvkfg.r74.darin@connectnet1.connectnet.com> References: <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> <rbarris-ya023280001501972306580001@news.quicksilver.com> <doenges.853411327@lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> <32DFCD07.3AAE@Fujitsu.com.au> >> In fact, some early (~70s) computer had a >> 12 bit CPU (can't remeber what it was and who made it) that worked bit >> seriell internally, but nobody would call it a one bit computer. Burroughs had a variable-bit computer. Word size was not fixed, at least not in the instruction stream. It was stack-based, so you couldn't classify it based on register size. Don't know details about it, it may have had an upper limit based on the ALU though. -- Darin Johnson darin@connectnet.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701171358.FAA06322@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 23c9573292d367ca7b67094597a05808 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 08:58:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Where are the ftp software archives? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 23c9573292d367ca7b67094597a05808 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: "Eric Brown" <ebrown@pointcast.com> Original Date: 17 Jan 1997 02:00:22 GMT > Where can I get new and old NextStep freeware and shareware? ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next see my NeXT web page for more (ref .sig) NeXTInfo TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hancock Speech 1/5 Message-ID: <8CFC3C4.09B8000057.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 16:04:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple Chief Technology Officer Ellen Hancock Press Luncheon at Comdex November 19, 1996 Las Vegas Ellen Hancock, Chief Technology Officer Good morning. It's a great pleasure to be at Comdex--and especially to be here for the first time on behalf of Apple. Apple is famed for living in its own reality-distortion field. But coming to the company from a long career at IBM and National Semiconductor, I've had the advantage of an outside perspective. And that's an advantage I don't want to lose--even as I gain the inside perspective. So I'm here--not just to talk to you, but to HEAR from you as well. I want to leave plenty of time for the question-and-answer session. I truly value those exchanges. I learn from them about what's not clear or what's of greatest concern to you, and I want to provide as many answers as I can to your specific questions. The Beginning When I got to Apple, I discovered that there is, as most of you know, some remarkable and ground-breaking technology in Apple's laboratories. We give good demos. But, clearly, we need to become a lot more effective at delivering our technology to the marketplace and gaining its adoption. Not just within Apple's current market strongholds. But broadly, across the industry. I view my job as clearing the path to make that happen. And today I want to tell you how we're going about it. To begin with, I want to talk about the opportunities presented by the new trends in the industry today. I'll fill you in on the changes we're making at Apple to help us participate in these trends. I'm very clear that the company has to ruthlessly and relentlessly drive out the Not-Invented-Here syndrome. We need to begin working much more closely with alliances. And we have to develop the discipline to meet our commitments. A year from now I'd want us to be judged by two things: Were we open to new ideas? And did we deliver to customer expectations? In that regard, I want to update you on our progress toward announcing the roadmap for the MacOS. Third I want to lay out some of the specifics of our strategies to address the Enterprise market, to extend our lead in media production, to keep our hardware at the cutting edge. And, finally, I'll give you our perspective on the trend toward thinner clients, and show you two of our entries in this field. Looking Ahead Our goal is to achieve much broader adoption of our products and technologies. I believe that the current trends in the industry give Apple a better opportunity to accomplish this now than at any time since 1984, when Apple introduced the Macintosh. In fact, when you think about it the parallels between now and '84 are intriguing: The industry is dominated by a single vendor. Customers are locked in and frustrated with infrastructure, costs and lack of flexibility. And new technologies are arriving which hold the promise to fundamentally dismantle this model and change the direction of the industry. Indeed, it feels like we are, again, not so much at the end of an era, but at the start of a new one--and one in which, once again, Apple's innovation will play a key role. In many ways, I think 1997 may be a lot like 1984. You can see these trends all around you at the show this year: Look at the emerging new paradigm of open network computing based on the standards of the Internet and intranets. It's creating an environment that can integrate and assimilate innovations from many sources. Including Apple. Look at the tremendous interest and activity in lower-cost Network Computers- -rebalancing the client/server model to reduce costs of acquisition and support at the desktop. It's opening the way for innovative so-called, "thin" clients. Including those from Apple. Look at the growing dominance of digital media formats. It's enabling the convergence of entertainment, broadcasting, publishing, and computing. And in this trend, Apple is the clear leader. All of these trends create opportunities that play to Apple strengths. The task of our new management team, under Gil Amelio's leadership, is to move the company into position to actualize this potential. We're engaged in a transformation to build a new Apple that's much more in tune with the industry today. And I believe it will lead to a break-out strategy for Apple technology. We're working to take down the barriers between our Apple and the rest of the industry. A break-out strategy means that from here on at Apple, NIH -- "Not-Invented-Here" -- is dead. If we find the best answer outside the company, we'll bring it in. A break-out strategy means interoperability is a prerequisite. Building bridges to other platforms isn't the customer's job; it's ours. A break-out strategy means putting our full weight behind Open Standards and Internet protocols. We're working side-by-side with other industry leaders to cross-pollinate the best of our technologies with the best of theirs. But above all, a break- out strategy for Apple means getting very clear about the unique values that we bring to our customers and to the industry. We need to focus on those values and drive forward with relentless and rapid innovation... with products that arrive on schedule and with no compromise in quality. What I want you to know is that we are moving strongly in that direction now, and with deliberate SPEED. And what I mean by deliberate speed is that all the pieces may not come together as quickly as you want or need them to, but they will come together in a way that gets it RIGHT. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: longsine@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: 18 Jan 1997 00:00:52 GMT Organization: PLATINUM technology, inc. (though i speak for myself only) Message-ID: <5bp3rk$nj1@news.platinum.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bdapi$39p@portal.gmu.edu> Cc: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu In <5bdapi$39p@portal.gmu.edu> Tim wrote: In article <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com>, Dayne Miller <dayne@wolfenet.com> wrote: [variousItemsAndReply munch]; > >C2 (or better yet, B1) security configuration. Admittedly this > > is mostly just hype (for instance, NT only achieves C2 > > certification with all networking removed, floppy dis- > > abled, etc.) but it's one of those buzzwords that IS > > departments look for. [ someReply munch] > As for NT's "C2" rating, it's a load of shit. Having done > trusted system evaluations and ratings professionaly, I can > tell you that "No floppy, no network" is a clear signal from > the evaluation team that the rating is purely a political one, > and that the system does not pass the requirements for C2, and > can not be made to pass in the form being evaluated. As for > politics entering into the equasion, if you don't belive they > exist in that process you are woefully and stunningly naive. > NT is NOT C2, it should not have ever gotten that rating, and > I do not belive, based on knowledge of the massive list of security > bugs it has, that in release form it can be made C2, even WITH > no network and no floppy. . I was pretty stunned when I saw this tidbit about NT, too. I was hoping someone else would gripe about it, so I didn't have to. Thanks. No network? Really guys... if it was anybody other than MicroSoft they would have been laughed out of the evaluation. > On the other hand, I believe NeXTSTEP can be made C2. And done with > what's shipped stock too. On most UNIX platforms, including NeXTSTEP, C2 level security can be achieved (with or without help from the vendor) by configuration. I've never heard of disabling the network or floppy as part of that configuration, though dial-up connections (into the C2 machine) are often prohibited. It may be that to be certified, the vendor must supply some documentation as to how that configuration is done, etc. It's been awhile since I studied this, though, so don't take my word for it. Simson Garfinkel has a great introduction to security, "Practical UNIX Security" (O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.) which is recommended reading if you are administering non-unix systems. Also, the "Orange Book" which defines the DoD security specs, where C2 comes from, can be found on the web... (this one is nicely formatted and indexed) http://www.disa.mil/MLS/info/orange/index.html /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| "The meek shall longsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= inherit nothin'." (612) 688-3033 x7814 & MIME) |. U - Frank Zappa
From: TheCopyCatShop@noisp.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5bp5ga$drj@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <5bp5ga$drj@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 03:30:37 +1 Organization: The Copy Shop Message-ID: <cancel.5bp5ga$drj@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> References: <5bp5ga$drj@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "TheCopyCatShop" or "summary of auto-cancels" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: CD Recordable Media.
From: alan@gibbs.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTAppleTalk Date: 18 Jan 1997 04:31:32 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5bpjn4$3oc@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Keywords: Apple Talk Hello, many months to maybe year ago, somebody posted how to get the Appletalk package from NS 3.0 working on 3.1-3.3 Black hardware. I can't find the info so I am hoping to get it from one of you folks. Please send the response to me and one to the group for good measure. Thanks!!! -- AB ______________________________________________________________ Alan A. Barhorst | alan@osci.me.ttu.edu Mechanical Engineering | http://www.osci.ttu.edu/ Texas Tech University | NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail. ______________________________________________________________
From: Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Oracle, Java available for NeXTSTEP or OPENSTEP ? Date: 18 Jan 1997 05:28:01 GMT Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5bpn12$qp2$1@news1.slip.net> Hi, I'm considering buying a black cube for experimental software development. The apps I would build use Oracle extensively. Is some version of Oracle available for either OpenStep or NeXTStep OS? Also, is there a Java compiler available for either OS? Finally, is there some OS version after which I am certain not to run into problems if used the CERN http software to set up an intranet? Thanks, e-
From: rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:57:13 -0800 Organization: Quicksilver Software, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <rbarris-ya023280001701971957130001@news.quicksilver.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net>, togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) wrote: > rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) wrote: > > >> This is oh so true. I've got two 68K MOT instruction set manuals. One > >> calls the processor a 16 bit unit, the other proudly announces it as > >> an advanced 32 bit processor (SAME processor part number). One manual > >> was before Apple literature described the 68K as a 32 bit processor, > >> the other after - connection? This reminds me of the transistor count > >> game that was played with transistor radios. I once disassembled a > >> 14-transistor Radio Shack radio. 2 of the transistors were wired and > >> used as diodes, 4 had ALL THREE leads soldered together and tacked > >> here and there on the PCB. So, what I really had was an 8 transistor > >> radio and 2 of those had little if any effect on performance. It's ALL > >> in the marketing.... > > > > Bogus. > > Hey, I didn't write the manuals. If you think it's bogus, talk to MOT! > The fact is, the timing of the manuals was just as I described. Looks > like a clear attempt at impressing newbies. Unfortunately, for MOT, > newbies and end users rarely order instruction set manuals. However, > the point wasn't entirely lost as Apple had good time with it. Lance, I'm a programmer, and from a programmer point of view it was possible to write 32-bit code without contortions on 68K from its inception (and have that code continue to run without modification on later models with larger physical address spaces). This did not become true on x86 until two unique memory models and some years later (80386). > > Fact is all 68K's offer a unified 32-bit programmer model, for pointers > >and integers. True, the original 68000 had a 16-bit external data bus and > >only 24 bits of physical address bus, but this is also why we call Pentium > >and Pentium Pro "32 bit processors" and not 64 bits: it's commonly accepted > >to look at the ALU word width or address space size as the "bitness" of a > >processor. > > > > Hardly. It MAY have been commonly accepted in the past - long past by > computer standards. Now-a-days, you'd better explain just what you > mean. My HP-48GX *calculator* has a 64-bit ALU. So was it accepted in 1982 or not? Rob Barris Quicksilver Software Inc. rbarris@quicksilver.com * Opinions expressed not necessarily those of my employer *
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep Apps? Date: 18 Jan 1997 04:22:17 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5bpj5p$lnd@news.digifix.com> References: <trubane-1501970138400001@den1-2-17.dialup.unt.edu> <32DD2AE6.CC5@erols.com> In-Reply-To: <32DD2AE6.CC5@erols.com> On 01/15/97, gbh@erols.com wrote: >> [...] >> For instance, what www browsers are available for NeXT; and are they >> stable, etc? What about word processing, page layout, etc? Is PageMaker >> still available for NeXT? [...] > >Take a look at the following web sites to find software for NEXTSTEP: >http://www2.stepwise.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Stepwise/ISVs.woa/1464720110891 28169909971572160214/Main.wo/2199007260114/1/-/digifix > >http://peanuts.leo.org/server/information.html > >--gh > Just a correction on this... using that URL will present you with timed out session... You want to enter through the front door http://www.stepwise.com/ or for the ISV listings specifically http://www2.stepwise.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Stepwise/ISVs.woa -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701171417.GAA08610@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 9391dfb4207b4d7a0624cd1b85e9e0d5 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 09:17:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Q: NeXTmail counter without logging in Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 9391dfb4207b4d7a0624cd1b85e9e0d5 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Original Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 14:29:20 +0100 > There is a program, that shows the number of mail-messages each > user received, without logging in! > > It shows the numbers besides the NeXTlogin-panel! > > Anybody knows what this program is called?? Any pointers?? never heard of it. There was a BackSpace module that was supposed to do something like that, but I don't remember what it was called. As the names floated around, they changed color if you had mail waiting.... not exactly what you were looking for. Let me know if you find it, sounds cool TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701171734.JAA18427@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <199701160453.UAA20139@PEAK.ORG> From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 12:34:21 -0500 Subject: Where to get Colorizer.bundle (Re: new mail bundle and NeXT employee's web pages) Cc: eseymour@next.com References: <199701160453.UAA20139@PEAK.ORG> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary I've had several people email me and tell me they can't seem to get the bundle for NeXTStep/OpenStep Mach from Eric's Web site. Since I can't email everyone a copy (actually, I don't even have it myself, since I'm on a mono machine), I've put it on PEAK here: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/Colorizer.1.5.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/Colorizer.1.5.README NOTE: this is the NeXTStep version (which also works on OpenStep/Mach). There is an OpenStep NT on his web page. The bundle will stay there as long as Eric doesn't mind (I've CC'd him on this message). Visit his webpage at http://www.next.com:80/~eseymour. Colorizer's homepage is http://www.next.com:80/~eseymour/Colorizer/Welcome.html TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
From: Eric Smalling <Eric_Smalling@amrcorp.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:21:53 -0600 Organization: SABRE Decision Technologies http://www.amrcorp.com Message-ID: <32D6B2F1.53E6@amrcorp.com> References: <32BA667C.403A@sfbayrun.com> <59eoku$eih@mica.netsync.net> <5b55du$nuq@epimetheus.algonet.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mats Forssblad wrote: > By the way, I got curious about the Next for pc, so I went to their > web-page to see what the os costs. I could not find any information. > So, with help of dejanews I found out that there IS no price right > now, but it DID cost $ 895. Now, that IS STOOPID. No wonder it is not > commercially popular. IF such an expensive OS is actually going to get > integrated with an os that most people regard as free (even if it, > actually is not, but few notice that there is a price), that is going > to produce some...what shall we call it...interesting demand/price > effects on the NextStep os right now, no? hehe - That's probably just to use the thing too! Developer (non-academic) packages are much more. I've been trying to convince my managers to look at OpenStep for NT here for months, but look at the price of the "Starter Pack" _special offer_ at this url: http://www.next.com:80/OPENSTEP/Products/OS_NT/OSE_Starter.htmld/ Yup, thats right FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS for _ONE_ developer (on the Enterprise Platform) !!! (and 3 Deployment Packs whatever they are) I sincerly hope Apple helps bring that price down _significantly_. I'm going to a NeXT Seminar next week to see OpenStep Enterprise and WebObjects Enterprise, I'm hoping they will affirm this! es PS: For a full price list see: http://www.optimal-object.com/Software/prices.html -- ____________________________________________________________________ Eric A. Smalling SABRE Decision Technologies - Ft Worth, Texas USA --=== ------=== The Any views expressed are mine alone and are in no ----------- SABRE way the views of AMR or any of it's subsidiaries. ------=== Group --=== email:Eric_Smalling@amrcorp.com Corp Web Site: http://www.amrcorp.com/sabr_grp/sdt/sdt.htm ____________________________________________________________________
From: mckinnon@tezcat.com (Chuck McKinnon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadm Subject: Re: Retraining for Rhapsody with WatchMe.app Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 23:44:25 -0600 Organization: Satan's Servers of Process Message-ID: <mckinnon-0901972344260001@mckinnon.tezcat.com> References: <5b387f$t4r@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <5b3ef8$26v@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5b3r3f$48t@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> In article <5b3r3f$48t@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>, nurban@vt.edu wrote: >In article <5b3ef8$26v@news.acns.nwu.edu>, jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) wrote: > >> jdevlin@umich.edu wrote: > >> > SUGGESTION: The new Apple OS should come with an entire CDRom >> > library of WatchMe cassettes on every conceivable topic. > >> This is a _stunning_ idea, and could go miles toward making the new >> platform, > >> Could you please try forwarding this to Avie, and perhaps even Steve >> himself? > >I'd like to point out that you can send suggestions to >feedback@macos.apple.com. Somebody there _does_ read them, so I would leadership@apple.com also lets you whisper in Gil's ear. -- -- Chuck McKinnon + mckinnon@tezcat.com --------------------------------------------------- Chicago Municipal Code Section 4-24-140: "No domestic animals, except _cats_, shall be permitted in a bakery or place where flour or meal is stored in connection therewith, and suitable provisions shall be made to prevent nuisances from the presence of cats."
From: sea@c031.aone.net.au (S*E*A) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.internet.software,de.comm.software.crosspoint,de.comm.software.pmail Subject: Configuration / Testing Management Date: Sat, 11 Jan 97 09:42:38 GMT Organization: Customer of Access One Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia Message-ID: <5b7nae$8p4_005@cpe.Melbourne.aone.net.au> S E A S o f t w a r e E v e r A f t e r 117 Clarinda Road, South Oakleigh, VIC 3167 Australia Voice: +61 3 9551 5234 Fax: +61 3 9551 5254 Quality Assurance and Testing Software + Configuration management + Document control + Calibration recall + Library management + Software testing + Revision / version control Free downloads: http://www.home.aone.net.au/sea/ Thank you - Lisa - Marketing Manager SEA Software Ever After
From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: looking for 'rtf <--> html' filter Date: 18 Jan 1997 07:00:06 GMT Organization: Personal Message-ID: <5bpsdm$23b@rumah.pc.my> References: <1997Jan15.112743.47277@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <5bjluh$sab@news.xmission.com> > >(1) There are freebies out on the net. Look for rtf2html or >rtftohtml. Pop up Altavista or some such to find it. None of >these work great with NeXT RTF and may need some tweaking for that. > rtftohtml was written to work best with Word stylesheets. Its not very useful w/Next editors, but if you get CedarWord (only ~$30) it is pretty easy to define stylesheets to do a decent job of editing html pages. Cedar says that they plan to add html in a later version, but the next/apple merger may put this project on the back burner for now. - mike --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Michael Olan Email: michael@rumah.pc.my (NeXT Mail OK) Senior Lecturer - Computer Science michael@ppp.itm.my American Degree Program Fax: 6-03-5482329 Institut Teknologi MARA Section 17, Shah Alam, Malaysia PGP Key available ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: olaf@orest.escape.de Subject: Re: NuAM (voice/fax machines) Message-ID: <E47781.9wI@orest.escape.de> Sender: olaf@orest.escape.de (Olaf Mueller) Organization: Objective Methods, Inc. References: <x7hgkhqgaf.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:48:00 GMT In article <x7hgkhqgaf.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> writes: > > Hi all...I have been thinking about using NuAM for voicemail/fax with > my Zyxel U1496E. Has anyone experienced any problems with this ? The > cost of 'mix' seemed a bit oppresive, so I started looking for another > solution. How do the two apps compare ? newam-0.2 works fine for ZyXEL U1496 (i developed it using this modem). It has no data handler for incoming calls and a fix voice answer mode. There will be a new version in a few days, which makes it to a more powerful tool. The most important improvements are: o a free programmable answer behavior. Depending on the caller's input different actions can be caused like: recording voice, invoking a UNIX commnd, sending a fax. o handling incoming data calls and will still come with a moderate price. Regards Olaf Mueller
From: kazdan@hans.math.upenn.edu (Jerry L. Kazdan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LaTeX2e for NeXT black hardware Date: 18 Jan 1997 04:40:05 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <5bpk75$2g6@netnews.upenn.edu> Is there a reasonably current version of TeX with LaTeX 2e for NeXT (black) hardware running NeXTSTEP 3.2 (or 3.3)? (Probably a FAQ) An email reply is best. Thanks
From: "Jonathan W. Hendry" <jon@steeldriving.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:49:10 -0500 Organization: Steel Driving Software, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32D70DB6.2D75@steeldriving.com> References: <32BA667C.403A@sfbayrun.com> <59eoku$eih@mica.netsync.net> <5b55du$nuq@epimetheus.algonet.se> <32D6B2F1.53E6@amrcorp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric Smalling wrote: > Yup, thats right FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS for _ONE_ developer (on the > Enterprise Platform) !!! (and 3 Deployment Packs whatever they are) The Deployment Pack must be the OpenStep runtime (name daemon, window server, pasteboard server, etc.) that has to be installed on systems that are going to be running OpenStep NT applications. -- Jonathan W. Hendry President, Steel Driving Software, Inc. OpenStep, Delphi, and Java Consulting in Cincinnati http://www.steeldriving.com
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hancock Speech 4/5 Message-ID: <8CFC3C4.09B800005A.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 16:04:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 HOT SAUCE One of our key technologies in Knowledge Management is known as HotSauce MCF, or MetaContent Format. This technology provides a standard way of describing information about information. MCF provides a way to work with the contents of multiple databases as though they we're all in one unified collection HotSauce, (formerly called Project X) is an early demo in the evolution of the MCF story. It provides a visual representation of data collections--such as sites on the World Wide Web, or the contents of your hard drive--and lets you navigate almost as if you're flying through them. But an even more compelling application of MCF is in allowing people to find information across multiple, and separate databases using a single query. Information Managers who have previewed this technology see it as a useful way to give corporate clients access to their company's information resources. Some of the technologies that Apple is working on with partners could redefine the concept of a "client." We are working today, for example, with a company in Germany that is using OpenDoc to create information access COMPONENTS that you can drop into a document. When you open the document, it automatically accesses a chosen database; the connection is already made. According to a Gartner Group report, knowledge management--especially OPENDOC COMPONENT SOLUTIONS--is one of Apple's major areas of differentiation. Windows can't touch this today. Obviously, MCF's ability to access the Internet or intranet to get unstructured, rich media in real time is also a compelling part of our Internet strategy--an example of our commitment to making rich media ubiquitous and usable on the Internet. Which brings me to our second key contribution to the new network architecture: we're extending our multimedia leadership through the QuickTime Media Layer, or QTML. QUICKTIME MEDIA LAYER In QTML, we're unifying our strongest multimedia technologies into a single architecture that spans from industrial-strength authoring and media production to low-cost delivery and playback vehicles. Apple's aim for QTML, and the rest of our multimedia efforts, is to expand both the creative range and the market reach of our customers in the media community. These include such fields as media-authoring, film, video, and music production, Internet-publishing and digital-playback. QTML is a software layer that comprises QuickTime, QuickTime VR, QuickDraw 3D, QuickTime Conferencing, sound, and the interactive authoring tools that enhance those products, such as Game Sprockets, HyperCard, Apple Media Tool, and AppleScript. It's implemented across MacOS, Windows, and UNIX. This week, for example, we're announcing QuickTime 2.5-Win for Windows. QTML is designed as an extensible media container architecture. Which means that it can embrace emerging standards for digital media such as MPEG II, HDTV, and Dolby Digital Surround. Our efforts with QTML are focused on solving two major problems our customers have raised over and over again: Problem one is the desire to AUTHOR ONCE, and play back EVERYWHERE: Developers in enterprises, the interactive marketplace and the digital video and audio market want to develop once and play back in multi-platform environments--Macintosh, Windows, Windows NT and even UNIX. Problem two is the need to REPURPOSE DIGITAL CONTENT: Developers also want to develop once for distribution over the Worldwide Web, on CD-ROM, and in professional digital video production environments. And they want to do that without having to cripple content features, or dilute the video. Solving problems like these, in a cross-platform architecture, can be a huge win for Apple and secure our place as the dominant vendor in this arena. Our goal with QTML is to ensure its adoption beyond the Mac platform. We're investing in making QTML both OS-agnostic and platform-agnostic. It's a major wedge for us in helping us break out of the Mac-only box. And it's working. One day last summer some 11,700 Windows users downloaded 32-bit QuickTime software for Windows. This is the kind of statistic that has that strange quality of so much that we do these days.... that is, of being simultaneously encouraging and worrisome. We know that we must be cross-platform to survive... but you may be wondering just what the PROFIT model is in all of this. On one level, as the originator of technology standards, we have the absolute advantage in terms of optimizing our platform for the multimedia activities they enable. On another we should be able to increase the revenue streams for Apple. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hancock Speech 5/5 Message-ID: <8CFC3C4.09B800005B.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 16:04:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 So let me tell you some of the things we're doing to ensure a performance edge for Apple in multimedia. First, we're working with Phillips Semiconductor to accelerate QuickTime functions for the Trimedia TM-1 media processor. The PowerPC combined with TriMedia will provide the the combination of accelerated-performance and high- quality that Apple customers require. Second, as I mentioned in conjunction with our alliance with Sun Microsystems, we're working on a library of common low-level multimedia functions called MediaLib. Writing to MediaLib will not only make it easier for developers to create multimedia applications, it will also make it easier for those applications to be created for a variety of microprocessors and coprocessors. MediaLib can make it easier to port applications across platforms. Our goal is to ensure that developers have access to the Mac Market with the smallest possible incremental development costs. Our work in making our QTML standards work across platforms is already bringing new players to the Macintosh platform. Vertigo is a classic example. As you know, Vertigo is a huge player in the 3D hardware arena that is now available on Macintosh, as a result of cross-platform QuickDraw 3D 1.5. In this case the entire debate about developing for multiple platforms was preempted. While each of the initiatives I've just described will have its own revenue model, they also contribute indirectly to our revenues, by helping to make our operating system and hardware lines more appealing and more acceptable. With Apple defining the most comprehensive architecture for digital media, customers will certainly want to consider the hardware systems we offer for their own production and development. OPEN NETWORKS With Apple working actively alongside other key players in the industry, customers will come to see us an equal citizen of open networks. The open, interoperable network environment has clear implications for our hardware designs and our OS. We have to make them better citizens in mixed environments. I am committed, for example, to making the Mac OS more INTEROPERABLE in heterogeneous environments that include Windows NT. What exactly do I mean by interoperable? I mean delivering the performance enhancements that Apple customers in NT environments are asking for. Like better file and print capabilities. Domain name services. PPTP, and communications over IP. AND, for some of our education and publishing customers especially, it means an NT-capable server from Apple. PC COMPATIBILITY We're advancing the PC Compatibility Card, for users who want Windows support. This solution combines a Pentium-based computer in the same box as the PowerPC-based MacOS computer. It provides full cut-and-paste interoperability between the two environments. We're also building stronger interoperability features into the Operating System. And next year, when Apple and other vendors introduce models based on the PowerPC Common Hardware Reference Platform--popularly known as CHRP--the interoperability story gets even better. For example, customers can choose to run NT if they want to, on products like Viper, Motorola's CHRP system due out in April. Our attention to interoperability across the board will make MacOS systems more appealing and acceptable in corporate environments. But it's clear that not every worker in an organization needs the full capabilities of a production workstation. In many cases, companies have been over-investing in client-side hardware. Which leads to the third important trend that is so much in evidence here at Comdex. And that's why there has been so much attention in the last few weeks to a strategy that rebalances the role of the client and server. NETWORK COMPUTING More than a year ago, Larry Ellison of Oracle, created a stir when he proposed the NC, or Network Computer. Over the past three weeks we've seen announcements from Microprocessor companies, software companies, and hardware manufacturers all jumping into the ring with some variation of the theme. Apple, as I've mentioned joined with IBM, Netscape, Oracle Corp., and Sun in proposing the standards for the Network Computer. We firmly believe its an idea whose time is coming. But we also believe that the principle of rebalancing the client/server model goes beyond the particulars of the NC. Apple announced two products last month that extend the principle of thinner clients into a new realm. They're both designed as communication devices. They're both designed to work with networks or desktop computers (either Windows or Mac). And they're both designed to be lower-cost alternatives to a full-scale desktop or laptop computer. But unlike the NC, these products are not dependent on the network for functionality. They're portable devices that provide basic productivity applications even in stand-alone mode. They both represent principles that I believe represent the best of the new Apple. Customer focus. Superior user value. And an artful approach to product design that creates products that delight our users. But beyond those values they also demonstrate careful attention to interoperability with legacy systems. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hancock Speech 2/5 Message-ID: <8CFC3C4.09B8000058.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 16:04:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 What's Up With Mac OS? I know you're most anxious to hear about our strategy for evolving the Mac OS, so let me get right into it. The last couple of months have churned up a lot of rumors and speculation in the media and on the 'Net about where we're headed. And with whom we might be traveling. I can only hope we get this much coverage when we actually make our announcement. And I promise you that will be by early 1997. I won't comment on the accuracy of any of the various rumors that are swirling around, but I would like to make one observation. Most of the stories and postings I've seen focus on just ONE of the options that we're considering. But you should know that not everyone that WE'RE talking to is talking to YOU. Let me be very clear that we have SEVERAL ways to go on this. We're evaluating options to either make or buy components of MacOS 8.0. I have several alternate product plans on my desk that all meet our customers' and developers' key requirements for our next generation operating system. All of the options I'm looking at will get us to a ROBUST, OPERATING SYSTEM with MEMORY PROTECTION and PREEMPTIVE MULTI-TASKING. I can tell you that, in the spirit of the new and open Apple, we ARE looking outside. There are some very attractive technologies out there that we are considering incorporating into MacOS 8. For example, it seems clear to me that any next-generation OS which doesn't integrate Java won't be around for very long. And clearly Java is something we have licensed in from Sun. But please be clear on this: Apple can deliver memory protection and preemptive multitasking in MacOS 8.0 with our own resources and the help of our industry partners. We will tell you at MacWorld San Francisco which path we're taking. And we'll show you--in detail--how this operating system strategy will involve and excite our customers and developer partners. What's Up With Middleware? What I'd like to do next is talk about the layer above the operating system-- what is known as middleware or bridgeware--and our plans here. It gives us a new approach to the enterprise. And it strengthens our lead in media production. We're committed to transforming Apple from a product-focused company to one that is focused on customers and focused on contributing its technology to the mainstream of the industry. So it isn't enough to take an inventory of cool technology from Apple labs, wrap a few slides around it and call that a strategy. In order for our strategy to really work for our customers, I believe it needs to meet three criteria: First, it needs to align with the most important customer and industry trends. There's very little argument that these are the Internet and multimedia. Second, it needs to supply distinctly superior value to the customer, creating new efficiencies, new opportunities, and, true to Apple's heritage, a strong sense of empowerment for the user. Third -- and this is a point that Apple too-often neglected in the past -- it needs to fit into an established, crowded, and growing technology space. Customers are not to throw out everything they've invested in and start over with new technology. Our new technology needs to interoperate with both legacy systems such as Windows, UNIX, and, of course, the current MacOS, as well as with new emerging standards and platforms such as Java. By looking at the whole information technology space and not simply our own proprietary systems, we can create opportunities for Apple technology that reach beyond the MacOS platform. We've done that successfully with QuickTime. And if you look around the show today you'll see we've done it again with FireWire -- the high-speed port which will provide bandwidth for advanced audio and video applications. Sony, Toshiba, Texas Instruments, and Yamaha as well as Apple -- are all showing products that incorporate FireWire. Going forward, you can look for a lot more development from Apple that is, as we like to say, "platform-agnostic." I believe that mapping our strategy to these trends creates an opportunity for Apple that is stronger than anything we've seen since the original Macintosh market breakthrough of desktop publishing. Let me tell you why. Ever since the Mac first appeared, it's been viewed as an alternative, maverick platform. Yes, people generally acknowledged that it was a milestone in human-interface, that it had a superior operating system. But it was a non- standard OS. Long before the first Mac rolled off the assembly line, the majority of the business market had already standardized on IBM compatibles and MS-DOS. The majority of the market concluded that changing platforms would be too disruptive, and they elected, instead, to accept the costs entailed in upgrading to Windows, Windows 95, and now, Windows NT. Where the Mac succeeded, it was by blazing new trails into areas that the early PCs couldn't handle: publishing, graphics, media production, and engineering. Many enterprise systems tolerated Macs in the art department and nowhere else. Why should that change now? Why should our outlook be brighter today? Because something is taking hold in the enterprise that represents a departure from the old model of client/server computing. It's an approach to network computing based on open Internet standards--a new architecture that offers more flexibility, new efficiencies, and new opportunities for creating, communicating, and collaborating. And in this new paradigm, the operating system on the client doesn't matter to the network. It only matters to the user. In this paradigm, the Mac is a full citizen. And Apple can be a major player. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hancock Speech 3/5 Message-ID: <8CFC3C4.09B8000059.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 16:04:00 -0500 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Many of you will remember a newspaper cartoon in the early days of Internet ramp-up. Two dogs were sitting at a personal computer typing--and one dog turns to the other and says, smiling: "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog". It's the same on the Macintosh. On the Internet nobody knows you're a Mac. This has been the pattern of the Internet since its inception. And now, with the prominence of the World Wide Web this paradigm for an open network architecture is visible everywhere. The Web has shown us all how powerful a truly agnostic network can be. The Web mixes servers running UNIX, the MacOS, and Windows NT. And it mixes clients on Mac, Windows, Newton, and now, even television sets and game consoles. (By the way, 64% of the pages on the Web are created on Macintosh. And Macs clients are doing more than 20% of the browsing--that's over twice what you might predict from our installed base.) The choice for corporate networks is between a proprietary client/server architecture and the new intranet-based architecture. The proprietary system is complex to develop for, and expensive to deploy. Customers are locked in. And the benefits remain elusive. The open system offers rapid development, it's less costly to deploy, and innovation is supported by a broad alliance of industry leaders. In the new environment, Apple clients have full citizenship. In the new environment, Apple middleware can benefit customers of all platforms and operating systems. In the new environment, Apple can forge a winning technology strategy. Let's take a look at what we're doing to build that strategy. APPLE ALLIANCES In ending Apple's go-it-alone, not-invented-here approach to innovation, we've stepped up our work with other industry leaders. Case in point: our alliance with Sun Microsystems. Sun's Java language is one of the building blocks of the new network architecture. And we're committed to integrating Java into the Mac environment. Earlier this month we shipped our first Beta Version of the Mac OS Runtime for Java. The Apple/Sun announcement is an enterprise-focused agreement on how two major players will work together to solve our customers' real-world problems. Multimedia technology is one component of the alliance. In this area SUN wins, because customers can take advantage of QuickTime capabilities in Java applets and applications, as JavaSoft enhances the JavaMedia APIs and libraries to fully support QuickTime. APPLE wins, because we can employ Java in an equally compelling fashion, and meanwhile, QuickTime's position in the industry is expanded and strengthened. We're also working with Sun on a library of multimedia routines known as MediaLib. It's an exciting project that I expect will keep Apple in the forefront of multimedia authoring. I'll tell you more about it when I discuss our strategy for interactive media. The Sun alliance also has major implications in the area of Internet/intranet application development. Our two companies are working to ensure interoperability between Java Beans and OpenDoc. This cooperation is expected to result in a full suite of component development tools. Again, both companies win, and the COMPONENT SOFTWARE proposition is strengthened. OpenDoc offers Java developers additional functionality such as document- persistent storage, uniform data transfer, and embedding and layout capabilities to scale Java Beans into component-based solutions. And Java provides OpenDoc developers with platform independence, offering high portability of components. The Sun alliance has another important facet on the HARDWARE side. Under the agreement, Apple customers will be able to tap into powerful Solaris-based enterprise environments from Macintosh clients. Sun enterprise customers will be able to interact with Macintosh clients across Solaris server-based intranets. And Sun is just one of the technology leaders we're working with. We're also working with Netscape to enhance the quality of multimedia, video-based images, and digital music in Netscape Navigator. And to bring Navigator into Apple's Cyberdog Internet client. --With Silicon Graphics to accelerate the development of "digital studios" for feature film, animation, and broadcast video. --With Netscape and Silicon Graphics together to develop a new file format based on Apple's 3D metafile format. --And with, IBM, Netscape, Oracle Corp., and Sun to announce guidelines for making low-cost, easy-to-use network computing devices. Together with our partners, it's our goal to provide rapid innovation and clear customer value. And perhaps more important, and in the spirit of the next 1984, Apple plans to regain its place of relevance and reliability in the marketplace. APPLE TECHNOLOGIES By looking beyond the MacOS platform to the industry at large, we're finding major opportunities where Apple technology can play. I'll give you two examples. The first is an area we call Knowledge Management. From an information management perspective, it means harvesting greater value from your investments in data. From a user perspective, it means finding what you want to know without knowing where the information is hidden. Knowledge Management is the art of turning vast stores of data into useful, relevant information. It has tremendous potential in the enterprise. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: jones.948@osu.edu (Steve Jones) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next's Recycle before Windows? Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:34:42 -0500 Organization: none Distribution: inet Message-ID: <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I was just curious, did next have the "recycle bin" before Win95 came out? Steve
From: martin@datamodl.demon.co.uk (Martin Hargreaves) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:39:06 GMT Organization: Datamodel Ltd Message-ID: <853605586.12929.1@datamodl.demon.co.uk> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <55pvzjh8t8.fsf@pbunyk.physics.sunysb.edu> paul@pbunyk.physics.sunysb.edu (Paul Bunyk) wrote: > >Actually... there was an ancient way to break a *given* mail programm >on a system you know too well: Theoretically if the mail program do >not allocate enough space for Subject: line, for example, and you feed it >a cerefully choosen long subject line, it can write itslef over some internal >structures of the program and mabe even cause some code to be executed. >Of course the mail program should be buggy (but sendmail *was* buggy, moreover, >it *is* buggy still) but I doubt that there still are people who can craft See recent issues of Phrack for "Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit". Any fool can do it now. Most recent in this vein was using a long gecos field a while ago. >that ;-) As far as I remember Morrison's famous Internet worm exploited >something like this in Sun's sendmail... Morris's worm used the now very elderly DEBUG hole. >But you should not worry, Windows'95's mail can not have this bug! ><kidding!> See the NT security mailing list for recently posted buffer overrung exploits embedded in mail designed for Windows NT and 95. ;-) Security - it worse than you think... M.
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From: t21@ix.netcom.com (Stephan Schaem) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Sat, 11 Jan 97 01:04:42 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5b7km0$o68@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> References: <5b11c5$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <AEFB9EC9-369E0@207.158.13.84> In article <AEFB9EC9-369E0@207.158.13.84>, "David Every" <dke@adnc.com> wrote: >> >You have it exactly backwards. CISC instruction sets are more >complex >> >and require more decode logic. This makes it harder decompose the >> >instruction stream into independant pieces that can be dispatched >> >to seperate execution units. > >Stephan Schaem <t21@ix.netcom.com> >> Risc need bigger cache, faster instruction fecth to execute the >same >> logic. > >Code creep on RISC seems to be about 10-20% in most cases... however >CISC machines (like the P6) also demand aligned instructions and data >to get their best performance - which translates to code (data) creep. >I am not sure which is worse at this point. > How often do you allign instructions... and isn;t this an effect of the cache? >Instructions do not need to be faster - that is a seperate issue all >together. In many cases the opposite is proving to be true - with RISC >machines (604e) beating the CISC-RISC hybrids (like PPro) eventhough >the later has a larger and faster cache and a lot more circuitry. So >you seem to be wrong in practice. > Its because the x86 is terrible in design... and in turn the code is not smaller then risc code, but suffer all the cisc disadventages. x86 is not cisc , P6 is not risc. x86 are just crap design. Dont label P6 code CISC and then prove a point that way... The general idea is that cisc can code more computation per byte, please look at a 680x0 for a better example. ). I'm not saying a 68000 is faster then a 500mhz PPC, just that byte for byte a 68000 acheive more, and in turn require less bandwidth and less instruction cache size. >> >As chip integration increases, more execution units can be added >> >which RISC can take advantage of in a more direct fashion. (There >> >are fewer dependancies between instructions, etc) >> >> And need more bandwidth and faster/bigger cache. > >BOTH need that - and PPro needs much more and faster than PPC to get >the same results - so it seems you have this backwards. > Both, but not at the same rate.... Dont equal the X86 ppro implementation to CISC. >> Having fixed size >> instruction is great, but this do not stop you from having more >complex >> instruction doing more per instruction. > >Sure you could do more per instruction on CISC - but each instruction >was slower and could stall the pipe - resulting in MUCH slowing >performance than just doing it the RISC way. So you save 10% in memory >- and lose 40% in die size to support CISC, and lose 40% in >performance - not a good tradeoff if you ask me. > I dont beleive those number are acurate... >> >Take a look at the fastest CISC out there, the Pentium Pro. What >> >does it do? It 'preprocesses' the CISC instruction stream into a >> >simpler, more 'RISC' like, instruction stream which is then >executed. >> >> Thats the amazing part too me... that this actually work :) >> It execute 3 variable size instruction per cycle.... > >Its called superscalar - and it is not amazing it works - it is >amazing how much more die size (gates) it takes up to do the same >amount of work. > It is not really the same work... with fixed size instruction you can start decoding right away. With variable size decoding during 1 cycle you need to figure out the size of the THREE next instruction + do the decoding as on a risc design. And this is what is amazing to me... >> >How much cheaper/faster would that CPU be if it could be fed >> >the RISC code directly? >> >> Humm, the code size would probably double, so you need to spend >> $ on bigger cache and faster memory. > >You have this backwards - this is why RISC's have been proven cheaper >to design and implement, and outperform CISC overall, and much more >dramatic results when you look at performance/gate or >performance/watt, etc.... > So risc need smaller & cheaper cache?!?!?!? I think you read what I'm writting backward... >> >Show me a CISC chip and I will show you a faster/cheaper RISC >> >chip. >> >This don't make CISC bad, just not better. >> >> My view is, cisc better exploit the resource at hand... risc are >alot >> faster/cheaper to design and improve giving them the edge. >> Even so, like some mentioned, at one time, the Pentiumpro was >> THE fastest CPU on earth for integer work :) > >Sure... CISC chips CAN be faster - but they can't keep up, and cost >more to design, etc.... as for better resources at hand the CISC have >yet to prove that - to get the performance on CISC (like PPro) you >have to have alignment issues, etc. that make it look more like a RISC >than a CISC anyways - and you get code creep the same as RISC. So >wheres the advantage? > PPrO is a VERY bad cisc example... its a cisc (variable instruction size, etc..) but only work well with risc like instruction. And the x86 instruction set is an horrible instruction set. Your whole argument is based on a PPRO vs PPC for CISC vs RISC. The advantage of cisc is in the end you get more computing done per byte. >> >In the end it really doesn't matter. Most code is written in >> >a high level languge and can compile anywhere. Code that is >> >written against a particular CPU will be shortlived >> >> Yes, but it will live long enought to make sense to do it. (I mean >> hand written specific CPU code) > >Now days people are learning - NO! (Or only very selectively. First >you write in standard language and get it working. Then you profile >and tune certain areas. Giving you portability FIRST - then >performance enhancements second). > All the people I know that write aplication have hand coded version of the critical C/C++ code... If you dont care about performance in the first place this is not even an issue, so I did beleive you where talking about hi performance aplication. I agree is best to first write the program, then profile it then optimize it :) doing it in the reverse order is very rare > >> >Advice: Write it in a high level language and re-compile as needed. >> >> My advice... Write in the language that fit the best, and hand >optimize >> assembly version of the critical part (If any). Most compiler today >can >> produce code as much as 4 time slower as human rewritten code. > >Humans can tune code... but the way most people are doing it is >writing high-level and getting it working (and portable) FIRST. Then Yes, and? (aren't repeating myself ?) >profiling and tuning as necessary... it turns out that in the past >humans weren't always that good at guessing which parts of the code >were the bottlenecks and so wasted time optimizing the wrong areas - >and not creating portability first. Creating portability? Aren't people creating first a working model of the aplication then fixing the speed issue? When I was writting asm on the amiga I first get the thing working, then I would optimize it. And I usually dont waist time optimizing the wrong algo, something that people still to today. Stephan
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TANGENT, was Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:46:52 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <QmsIHAq00iWl078YM0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <32e10f23.0@cisun2000.unil.ch> <5br8m6$c9l@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> In-Reply-To: <5br8m6$c9l@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> [ This is related to physics and not to NS. ] Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 18-Jan-97 Re: Next's Recycle before W.. by Jon Haveman@mgmt.purdue. >> Sure did.... Also it had the [X] close box, and a few other bits of the >> look and feel of Win '95 in NEXTSTEP '89... Although, I think until >> NEXTSTEP 3.0 the Recycler had been a blackhole which was kind of cool. > > Yeah, I admit, it was pretty cool, but the implication was wrong. A > black hole is something from which nothing ever emerges, right? That was what the classical (Newtonian/Einsteinian) model said, yes. However, once we understood quantum physics, it turns out that black holes emit radiation with an effective temperature that increases rapidly as the mass of the black hole decreases. This emitted radiation reduces the mass of the black hole. For black holes with the mass of the Sun, the temperature is well below the ambient background radiation of 3 Kelvin, which means such black holes are effectively eternal, since they suck in more radiation then they emit. Small black holes can release a large amount of radiation, and have the potential in theory to be a new form of power generator. There was an informal paper entitled "Black holes are fuzzy, but they have no hair" IIRC which provided a more thorough description of Hawking (ie, with spin) and Kerr-Newman (ie, with spin and electrical charge) black holes, the lifespans of black holes of various masses, and the amount of energy radiated. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:31:27 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <5brivv$h9k@news.grolier.fr> References: <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit jones.948@osu.edu (Steve Jones) wrote: >I was just curious, did next have the "recycle bin" before Win95 came out? Everything came before Win95. M$ is only copying other compagnies. The world was not created on august 1995 ! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: rsjoh@aol.com (Rsjoh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TANGENT, was Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:39:40 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970118223900.RAA24511@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <QmsIHAq00iWl078YM0@andrew.cmu.edu> >However, once we understood quantum physics, it turns out that black >holes emit radiation with an effective temperature that increases >rapidly as the mass of the black hole decreases. This emitted radiation >reduces the mass of the black hole. Actually the amount of Hawking radiation radiated from a black hole is inversly proportional to the *size* of the black hole and not it's mass. Scott Johnson
From: togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:28:30 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32e14540.11376132@news.sover.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net> <carol1-1801971152140001@17.219.103.153> carol1@apple.com (Andrew Carol) wrote: >In article <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net>, togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) wrote: > >> Hardly. It MAY have been commonly accepted in the past - long past by >> computer standards. Now-a-days, you'd better explain just what you >> mean. My HP-48GX *calculator* has a 64-bit ALU. > >I belive that the Saturn chip developed by HP is a 4 bit CPU with >a 4 bit ALU. > >The model exposed to the RPN programmer may be 64 bits, but >the internal hardware is only 4 bits at a time. I've seen >assembly code for this littel machine and it's rather tedious. > >Power consumption is a real issue. Why do in 64 parallel bits >what can be cycled through 4 bits with lots less power? > The Saturn has a real 64-bit ALU while the internal/external data path is 4-bits. No doubt, the assembly code you've seen involves moving 4-bit "fields" in/out of the ALU. Many people consider assembly code tedious whatever the processor. Certainly, floating point operations with an integer ALU can be less than fun! The 64-bit ALU makes perfect sense when you consider that the CPU was specifically designed for floating point operations. As such, the ALU can hold the entire binary representation of a floating point number (mantissa and exponent). RPN programmers are generally unaware of CPU bit size because RPN deals with named variables that may contain one or more of a large variety of objects with floating point numbers being just one in the list. All of the Saturn CPU registers are static CMOS so I've missed your point concerning power consumption. BTW, with the 48GX, I can have the answers to some really heavy math problems before most PCs get the mouse cursor on the screen :). A lot cheaper to buy and run too not to mention that it fits in a coat pocket.
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:11:06 -0600 From: Joe Burke <netpro@teleport.com> Subject: Re: Where are the ftp software archives? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <853628834.15025@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <01bc041a$2c914530$3374e3a5@delphi> In article <01bc041a$2c914530$3374e3a5@delphi>, "Eric Brown" <ebrown@pointcast.com> wrote: > > Where can I get new and old NextStep freeware and shareware? > > Thanks, > Eric Please see the information in the sigfile below... lots of resources there :) including many searchable shareware archives -- * Joe Burke <netpro@teleport.com> * * R.E.S.O.U.R.C.E.S !!! http://www.teleport.com/~netpro/ * * See our listing of some 150 SHAREWARE LIBRARIES and games sites, * * 100's of SEARCH ENGINES and searchable databases, 40+ IRC NETS and * * extensive WEB DESIGN, HTML and WINDOWS 95 & 3.x resources. * -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TANGENT, was Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:14:16 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <cmsKRM600iWRI6Wu9b@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <QmsIHAq00iWl078YM0@andrew.cmu.edu> <19970118223900.RAA24511@ladder01.news.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <19970118223900.RAA24511@ladder01.news.aol.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 18-Jan-97 Re: TANGENT, was Re: Next's.. by Rsjoh@aol.com >> However, once we understood quantum physics, it turns out that black >> holes emit radiation with an effective temperature that increases >> rapidly as the mass of the black hole decreases. This emitted radiation >> reduces the mass of the black hole. > > Actually the amount of Hawking radiation radiated from a black hole is > inversly proportional to the *size* of the black hole and not it's mass. What size? Black holes don't really have a meaningful 'size', at least in this universe. My understanding is that the only physical properties which are needed to completely describe a black hole are it's location, mass, electrical charge, and spin. There is a length measurement associated with black holes, which is the Schwartzchild radius. But that is not the size of the mass which comprises the black hole, since that mass has been squeezed to a point, at least as far as the outside universe is concerned. Furthermore, there is a direct relationship between the mass of the black hole and Schwartzchild radius. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Dayne Miller <dayne@wolfenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:45:42 -0800 Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C. Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970118152847.4306A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bdapi$39p@portal.gmu.edu> <5bp3rk$nj1@news.platinum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5bp3rk$nj1@news.platinum.com> On 18 Jan 1997, Gary W. Longsine wrote: > I was pretty stunned when I saw this tidbit about NT, too. I was hoping > someone else would gripe about it, so I didn't have to. Thanks. No network? > Really guys... if it was anybody other than MicroSoft they would have been > laughed out of the evaluation. For those of you running NT, there's a "C2 Configuration Utility" that ships with the NT Resource Kit. It gives a whole list of all the options that need to be configured to meet the criteria under which NT qualified -- you can check off which you want to enable (in other words, you might want to become "more secure" without necessarily worrying about meeting the letter of the certification criteria). Anyway, it's worth checking out, and very instructional. What's interesting to note is that I've heard many program/product managers at MS claim that IIS is a "C2 Secure Web Server" or that Exchange "meets C2 requirements". None of them has been able to tell me how either IIS or Exchange is even remotely useful without a network... > On most UNIX platforms, including NeXTSTEP, C2 level security can be achieved > (with or without help from the vendor) by configuration. I've never heard of > disabling the network or floppy as part of that configuration, though dial-up > connections (into the C2 machine) are often prohibited. It may be that to be > certified, the vendor must supply some documentation as to how that > configuration is done, etc. I believe that NEXTSTEP needs better logging capability on individual files, etc. Also, ACLs would help (though offhand I don't remember if they're required). Haven't actually read the Orange Book requirements in a long while (thanks for the URL, Gary). -Dayne Miller dayne@wolfenet.com daynem@excell.com
From: bstone@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Date: 19 Jan 1997 02:08:43 GMT Organization: The University of Calgary Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5brvnb$fgg@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> References: <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> <5brivv$h9k@news.grolier.fr> jones.948@osu.edu (Steve Jones) wrote: > I was just curious, did next have the "recycle bin" before > Win95 came out? I was actually pretty amused at the Win95 icon. After all, it's a trash can with a recycle icon on it ... blatantly demonstrating that they fully intend to use good ideas from other environments when they see them. Good for them. It really does benefit the user in the long run! If car manufacturers sued each other over the control arrangements in automobiles you'd have to learn to drive each make from scratch. It also seems like a deliberate nose-thumbing in Apple's direction. Wasn't the trash can one of the contentious issues behind the Win 2.0 / New Wave look and feel lawsuit? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blake W. Stone bstone@dkw.com Technical Director - DKW Systems "Art may imitate life, but life http://www.dkw.com/bstone imitates TV" - Ani Difranco
From: alana@crl.com (Alana Jordan) Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:44:01 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Message-ID: <5b85vq$mm9@nexp.crl.com> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> <32d57afb.1060931@news.yorkonline.net> I am interested in PURCHASING Adobe Acrobat 3.0. Does anyone know where I can get the best price? What are the system requirements? Please send info via email. Alana alana@crl.com http://www.crl.com/~alana/ tmtjoy@yc.ne.edu (Todd Mountjoy) wrote: >On Thu, 09 Jan 1997 12:06:32 GMT, carloskessel@montreal.com.br (Carlos >Kessel) wrote: >>Arnold Shore <ashore@dgs.dgsys.com> wrote: >>That's my feeling too. But I think the points of including a >>downloadable PDF file in a site would be: >>- Maintaining the original design >>- Including all images >>- Avoiding the wages of the WebMaster. >I really like it simply because I can "Print" a web page with the PDF >driver at web sites I like and then read it later "OFF LINE" as a >portable document with all the images. >The version I just purchased also works wonderful with all of my >Windows applications and all I do is select the printer as a PDF file >and Wham Bam I have a portable document, whether that be a MS-Word >document, an Excel workbook or just about anything I could normally >print. >Acrobat is by far a superior product than the Envoy portable document >system I got when I bought Wordperfect Pro Suite. Anyway, I think that >more people have the Acrobat Reader installed and configured for their >browsers than Envoy. (Something else, Envoy couldn't handle frames >with pictures in MS-Word like Acrobat does... What you see is what you >get with Acrobat) >I got Acrobat 3.0 for $99 from MicroWarehouse by simply photocopying >my first disk. I think this offer goes through February, and $99 sure >beats $300. >Todd Mountjoy >Library Directory >York College >York NE 68467
From: SoundChaser <soundchaser@velodrome.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.mach Subject: Re: OS Componenets of OpenStep for Mach Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:27:35 -0800 Organization: hmmm Message-ID: <32E1A2B7.385D@velodrome.com> References: <5bhkt2$t78@manuel.ocs.mq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jon Tidswell wrote: > > [ Note Cross posts ] > > Ive failed to find any concrete details about which version of Mach, > NeXT is using. > Ive also seen reference to BSD4.4, presumably in reference to un*x tools > for OpenStep environment. > > Can anybody point me to references of what is (or is about to be) in use ? > > TIA > - JonT <jont@mpce.mq.edu.au> I believe it started life as Mach 2.0/2.1 and they added bits of 2.5 as they saw fit.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <475852914532@digifix.com> Date: 19 Jan 1997 04:57:55 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <413853649874@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.App previews multiple pages atop one Date: 11 Jan 1997 15:20:00 GMT Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC. Message-ID: <5b8b30$er1@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5b7fcc$mib@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Cc: lones@lones.mit.edu In <5b7fcc$mib@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Lones A Smith wrote: > It is tax time. I need publication p551 in the IRS archive, but when I download > it in postscript form, all 30 or so pages are previewed atop one another. > My secretary can print it ok, so what is going on here? This hapens > randomly for about 1/3 of the IRS postscript files I have downloaded. > Try my BeYap application for preview. It will handle such problem files just fine. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.graphics.rendering.renderman,comp.sys.next.software Subject: App for SpaceJam? Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:17:44 +0000 Organization: Instructional Technology Services-Illinois State University Message-ID: <32E1761C.7000@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone remember what that app was called that created 3D in SpaceJam on NEXTSTEP, and the URL? Thanks, please email. -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan M. Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TANGENT, was Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Followup-To: sci.physics.relativity Date: 19 Jan 1997 02:05:55 -0500 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5bsh4j$9n0@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> References: <QmsIHAq00iWl078YM0@andrew.cmu.edu> <19970118223900.RAA24511@ladder01.news.aol.com> In article <19970118223900.RAA24511@ladder01.news.aol.com>, rsjoh@aol.com (Rsjoh) wrote: > >However, once we understood quantum physics, it turns out that black > >holes emit radiation with an effective temperature that increases > >rapidly as the mass of the black hole decreases. This emitted radiation > >reduces the mass of the black hole. > Actually the amount of Hawking radiation radiated from a black hole is > inversly proportional to the *size* of the black hole and not it's mass. Getting _entirely_ off topic here, but.. note that the radius of a black hole is directly proportional to its mass, thus the temperature of a black hole is inversely proportional to its mass OR radius. (I'm assuming you meant "radius" when you said "size", rather than "area".. but "area" would be incorrect.) The power radiated is proportional to the fourth power of the temperature, and thus inversely proportional to the fourth power of the mass or radius. Followups to sci.physics.relativity! -- Nathan Urban | nurban@vt.edu | Undergrad {CS,Physics,Math} | Virginia Tech
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTAppleTalk Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 02:10:44 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001901970210440001@news.tiac.net> References: <5bpjn4$3oc@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5bpjn4$3oc@ttacs7.ttu.edu>, alan@osci.me.ttu.edu wrote: > Hello, many months to maybe year ago, somebody posted how to get the > Appletalk package from NS 3.0 working on 3.1-3.3 Black hardware. I can't > find the info so I am hoping to get it from one of you folks. Please send > the response to me and one to the group for good measure. Thanks!!! I posted it for one. Get a 3.0 release. Use the 3.0 Installer to make a list of the components. Back up anything that might be replaced and install it. Check if everything in the package was really installed. (I don't remember if there was a problem here. There IS with later installers.) Reboot. Enable Appletalk in the Preferences panel. Reboot. As I've said before, it isn't a satisfactory implementation. Wait for CAP. Barney Barney (delete that _seesig to email)
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ClarisWorks 4.0/Internet Date: 10 Jan 97 17:17:20 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AEFC2A24-1D5889@207.147.50.154> References: <8CF9266.09B800003E.uuout@moondog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Cyberdog-AltBoundary-001D579B" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-001D579B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Who cares? Where is 5.0? You remember, it's supposed to be and OpenDoc Container. 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From: email@end.of.post (Raymond Lutz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Librarian replacement Date: 11 Jan 1997 19:10:41 GMT Organization: SPC Message-ID: <5b8ojh$2ak$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> References: <5b5j42$bh7@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <5b699p$req$3@inet-prime.comshare.com> <5b70n3$6f6@news.xmission.com> In-Reply-To: <5b70n3$6f6@news.xmission.com> Don (IXKit authority 8^), speaking of Digital Librarian, I must say I don't fully understand its inner working, and hence probably misuse it. When searching "In Contents" and "Word", does it read the indexed files or *only* the built index? Common sense suggests the latter but some observations puzzle me: - when searching, gray file names cycle over the searched field. - in a 200 dummy files target, all hits are found 'instantaneously', but name cycling lasts more than four seconds. - if I delete the files (but not the .index.store) hits are still rapidly found and the file name display ceases. - with NeXT indexed targets, file name display occurs only with "Literal" searches. Please, someone enlightens me! -- Raymond Lutz, lutzray@9bit.qc.ca "Les 400 plus fortunes individus de la planete possedent autant que 2.3 MILLIARDS des plus pauvres reunis"
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Date: 19 Jan 1997 07:12:25 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5bshgp$8kt@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <32e10f23.0@cisun2000.unil.ch> <5br8m6$c9l@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> In article <5br8m6$c9l@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>, Jon Haveman <jon@mgmt.purdue.edu> wrote: > writes >> jones.948@osu.edu (Steve Jones) wrote: >> > I was just curious, did next have the "recycle bin" before Win95 came >> >out? NeXT sure had the recycle bin prior to W95. So, now I guess millions of people will think MS thought of it first... >Yeah, I admit, it was pretty cool, but the implication was wrong. A >black hole is something from which nothing ever emerges, right? I guess NeXT's black hole was special. I still love the way it animated when items are dragged over it. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@NO.SPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: run x-netscape over the net using Xnext Date: 20 Jan 1997 16:35:32 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5c06sk$i0v@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5bj3oa$fd0@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) wrote: >i installed Xnext on my system but failed to figure out how to display >x-applications (as netscape) running on a aix-server-machine. Xnext is very nice application. I have yet to find out how well it runs on Intel platforms. What you have to do is - allow other platforms to display a window remotely - log on the other platform, set the display, and start the application. To do the former, type "xhost +" in a terminal window. Due to some bug in the X11 server, this will not work as the first X windows command to run on that server. My solution was to start xconsole first, and then run "xhost +", or "xhost +<machinename>". As for the latter, simply type "setenv DISPLAY <nextmachine>:0" (in case you use csh). This should work. Feel free to send me personal mail (beware of the spam-trap modified headers). All the best, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenWrite.app and spell checking Date: 20 Jan 1997 16:59:39 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Message-ID: <5c089r$325i@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5bhvnj$5jh@brockman.serv.net> Cc: thrall@serv.net In <5bhvnj$5jh@brockman.serv.net> Dean Johnson wrote: > > I just started using OpenWrite for my word processing needs and for > some reason it does not spell check. All this time I thought that I > just spelled exceptionally well when I noticed glaring errors on my > resume, of all places :(. > > The app just gives the familiar beep like it has completed checking > the document, but it in fact did nothing. Has anyone else noticed this > or have any ideas why it would not check my document? > Hi, This is a bug in Openwrite if you are running it with OpenStep/mach 4.x. It is a real pain (aside from one or two other "little" bugs I've encountered), and I have mostly stopped using OpenWrite and started using CedarWord. Lighthouse knows about this bug, but I don't know if they've done anything about it. You might send mail to openwrite@lighthouse.com and request that they fix it. I think they're probably ignoring me at this point because I was pretty upset at them over another bug I encountered with OpenWrite, and I made that clear to them. Make sure you've downloaded the most recent OpenWrite release from one of the FTP sites so you don't encounter the bug I did. The bug erases your home directory when renaming a chapter in a book. To my knowledge, that is the only bug they've fixed in the most recent release. Does anyone else wonder what's up with Lighthouse and why they haven't made any public statements regarding the future of their software in light of the Apple/NeXT merge? I find it bizarre. Maybe they're negotiating with someone who wants to buy it from them and thus are staying quiet . . . > I did notice that it does spell check inside the Help facility of > OpenWrite, but not my documents. Anyway, tips appreciated to > thrall@serv.net > > Thanks, > > dean > -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://www.barbarian.com
From: Jeff_Sickel@BLaCKSMITH.com (Jeff Sickel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Preview.App previews multiple pages atop one Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:02:05 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <5bdpqd$lt2@BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <5b7fcc$mib@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) wrote: >It is tax time. I need publication p551 in the IRS archive, but when I download >it in postscript form, all 30 or so pages are previewed atop one another. >My secretary can print it ok, so what is going on here? This happens >randomly for about 1/3 of the IRS postscript files I have downloaded. > It turns out that besides the wonderful DOS based .exe PKZip archive that the govies tend to like these days for their Postscript files, some of them are generated specifically for duplex printing (from a Windows print driver). Basically, some of the files only have a %%Pages 1 defined. Makes it a little rough for the rest of us. I've been getting the PDF files instead and have had relatively good success with them. Sometimes they have come down corrupted though, and I can't figure out if it's always the link or not... jas
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:55:51 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Message-ID: <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Cc: n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu In <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Robb Lincoln wrote: > > Forgive my ignorance... (...) > CLI. Ironic as it is, I believe thare must be a way to integreate GUI > and CLI gracefully, without scaring the uninitiated. Yes! It was done by NeXT... -- mc
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:05:21 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Message-ID: <E47u8x.2vv@micmac.com> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <Pine.OSF.3.95.970113124432.7590F-100000@saul2.u.washington.edu> Cc: kjaeros@u.washington.edu In <Pine.OSF.3.95.970113124432.7590F-100000@saul2.u.washington.edu> Ray Stricklin wrote: > To repeat: There is no reason the two could not be successfully--- > and usefully---combined. > Especially since the two were created under the supervision of Steve Jobs! -- mc
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 12:47:45 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Distribution: inet Message-ID: <E49A7L.J3@micmac.com> References: <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> Cc: jones.948@osu.edu In <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> Steve Jones wrote: > I was just curious, did next have the "recycle bin" before Win95 came out? > Sure! Since 1990... What do you imply? That NeXT could have urged to copy this feature from M$?!!!?!??! =:0000000 -- mc
From: jones.948@osu.edu (Steve Jones) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:14:19 -0500 Organization: none Distribution: inet Message-ID: <jones.948-ya02408000R2001971814190001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> <E49A7L.J3@micmac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <E49A7L.J3@micmac.com>, mic@micmac.com wrote: > In > <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> > Steve Jones wrote: > > I was just curious, did next have the "recycle bin" before Win95 > came out? > > > > Sure! Since 1990... What do you imply? That NeXT could have urged to > copy this feature from M$?!!!?!??! =:0000000 > Actually the other way around; I was thinking (since next is quite a bit older than win95) that ms copied it from them. Apparently this is the case. Steve
From: lark@odyssey.cognex.com (Lar Kaufman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: 20 Jan 1997 16:27:21 -0500 Organization: Cognex Corporation Message-ID: <5c0nvp$agt@odyssey.cognex.com> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com> In article <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com>, Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> wrote: >In <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Robb Lincoln >wrote: >> CLI. Ironic as it is, I believe thare must be a way to integreate GUI >> and CLI gracefully, without scaring the uninitiated. > >Yes! It was done by NeXT... I'd credit that feature to MIT--as a general feature of the X Window System--if you are talking about thriving solutions. Otherwise I'd have to say that probably the very first was Richard Stallman's command interface solutions for LISP. -lar -- - Running Linux 2ed, by Matt Welsh & Lar Kaufman: O'Reilly & Assoc. 1996 -
From: tetsu@alcatraz.net (Andre Tsurukame) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Daydream -- MacOs emulator questions Date: 20 Jan 1997 23:39:28 GMT Organization: VE Information system, Inc. Message-ID: <5c0vng$co4@uruguay.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I am currently running Daydream 2.11 by Quix on our NextStation computers here and I have a couple of questions if anyone can help me out. 1. Can daydream run the lastest version of system 7.5? 2. We are currently have 7.5.3 installed on our Nextstation using Daydream and we are encountering some graphic/display glitches. For example when running Netscape 2.02, some of the inline images, such Netscape Homepage Logo, comes out looking skewed looking very psychedelic with green and blue splotches. We installed the daydream 1.43 color patch, but this did not help. 3. What is the most current release of daydream. If 2.11 is the most current, are there any plans by Quix to put out any newer versions? Thanks for anyone help you can give me. - Andre
From: rsjoh@aol.com (Rsjoh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: 21 Jan 1997 04:17:38 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970121041700.XAA24463@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com> Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:55:51 GMT Message-ID: <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com> In <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Robb Lincoln wrote: > > Forgive my ignorance... (...) > CLI. Ironic as it is, I believe thare must be a way to integreate GUI > and CLI gracefully, without scaring the uninitiated. >Yes! It was done by NeXT... No, it was done by Apple, with their Commando program that was a part of A/UX. Commando presented you with a dialog box with radio buttons, drop down menus, etc. with the various options/switchs for Unix commands. Thus you didn't have to memorize all the obscure switchs for all the commands. Scott Johnson
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:02:49 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Distribution: inet Message-ID: <E4BJGq.8As@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> jones.948@osu.edu (Steve Jones) writes: > I was just curious, did next have the "recycle bin" before Win95 came out? By about six years! NeXTStep has evolved, but its basically unchanged from its original version. The recycler replaced a black hole icon, in the move from version 1.0 to version 2.0. On a NeXT Cube was the first place I EVER saw the recycler icon. $an
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Chess.app in Openstep 4.1 corrupted? Date: 14 Jan 1997 03:18:40 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5betug$adq@news.next.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970113203420.5032A-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@jura.uni-bonn.de> writes > > Does anybody encounter graphical errors in the 2d display of the > Chess.app of OpenStep 4.1, too? > > Regards > Konstantin Wiesel > Email:kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de > Yep. I wonder how that happened? It worked fine in 3.3 (really!) At least it's still playable. I'm sure that Apple will give this bug the priority it deserves :-) Thanks, -Mark -- Mark Bessey NeXT Software, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: "Andrew S. Foltz" <af19921@conrad.appstate.edu> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 14:52:02 EST Organization: Appalachian State University Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.970111145001.631308429B-100000@conrad.appstate.edu> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> PDF is great for things like tax forms or membership forms, because it provides a very small files in many cases, and high quality printing while preserving the layout and fonts. On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Carlos Kessel wrote: > Arnold Shore <ashore@dgs.dgsys.com> wrote: > > >Counter question: Why bother with Acrobat and PDF? > ... > >Arnold Shore > >Annapolis, MD > > That's my feeling too. But I think the points of including a > downloadable PDF file in a site would be: > - Maintaining the original design > - Including all images > - Avoiding the wages of the WebMaster. > > However, I'm still curious about all this Acrobat hoopla. I know some > big fans of PDF. > > .................................. > Carlos Kessel > Rio de Janeiro, Brasil > > >
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: 21 Jan 1997 05:16:46 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <5c1jfu$5dc@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <19970121041700.XAA24463@ladder01.news.aol.com> rsjoh@aol.com (Rsjoh) writes: > No, it was done by Apple, with their Commando program that was > a part of A/UX. Commando presented you with a dialog box with > radio buttons, drop down menus, etc. with the various options/switchs > for Unix commands. Thus you didn't have to memorize all the > obscure switchs for all the commands. Yes, that is pretty nice. Wasn't it in MPW (under MacOS) first? Maybe not, it's quite likely that I was paying attention to MPW before I did much of anything with A/UX. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: longsine@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: 13 Jan 1997 22:34:45 GMT Organization: PLATINUM technology, inc. (though i speak for myself only) Message-ID: <5beda5$es2@news.platinum.com> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Cc: n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu In <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Robb Lincoln wrote: > > Forgive my ignorance... > BUT... > When Apple Ex's talk about "hiding the remaining Uixness", what does this > mean? They mean that they want to make certain that it is not *required* for an ordinary user to use the CLI to use or maintain their personal system. They do not mean that the CLI will be removed. > Do they refer to the CLI as many on the net seem to believe? > If so, I as a mac user, see this as a crying shame...really...no bullshit. Yes, it would be a serious blunder, and would damage their chances of taking market share from WindowsNT/95. > It seems to me that the CLI would offer the power user and the > technogeeks out there the flexibility to "get at the innards" which DOS > bigots have promoted for so long. I can't help but notice however that > even on the WIntel world, most users NEVER dump the GUI infavor of DOS > CLI. Ironic as it is, I believe there must be a way to integrate GUI > and CLI gracefully, without scaring the uninitiated. There is. NeXT has done it. You are able to use the CLI via a terminal window, if you so desire. It is not required of the normal users. > To get back to my original question, what other "Unixness" could they be > referring to? CLI I could handle, something else? I doubt very much that Apple Exec's really have a concrete notion of what they mean when they say this -- because it's marketing-speak, not technical talk. They are really just trying to calm the hoards of Mac users who panic when they hear UNIX, because all they remember is the VT-100 that they saw once in college. Once Rhapsody ships, everything will be fine. (It's gonna be the longest six months of our lives.) /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| "The meek shall longsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= inherit nothin'." (612) 688-3033 x7814 & MIME) |. U - Frank Zappa
From: longsine@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: 13 Jan 1997 22:46:00 GMT Organization: PLATINUM technology, inc. (though i speak for myself only) Message-ID: <5bedv8$es2@news.platinum.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bcske$5ps@news.platinum.com> <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Cc: jburton@nwu.edu This is what happens when you rely *too* much on a built-in spell checker... Let it be a lesson to you all. 8^) Naturally, I meant to type: rogue... In <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Joshua W. Burton wrote: > longsine@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) wrote: > > > DHCP is very important if you want to play in Windows shops. Might > > be your only way to get an IP address for your rouge Rhapsody box... > > Therefore it's important. > > They're going to make them in _rouge_? Oh, gross! I thought beige > was bad enough.... > > What's wrong with matte black, anyway? It's good enough for every > cool piece of electronics on the planet _except_ computers, isn't it? I want black, too. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| "The meek shall longsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= inherit nothin'." (612) 688-3033 x7814 & MIME) |. U - Frank Zappa
From: Morphamania <mm@ois.com.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AppleTalk printing on 3.3 Intel NeXT Step. Date: 13 Jan 1997 08:02:37 GMT Organization: Morphamania Internet Publishing Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bcq6t$gvm$1@brumby.cowan.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi All! I need the AppleTalk package that the NeXT homepage outlines so i can use my ethernet network to t ppd's for the printer(s) but it e the Appletalk package doesn't ship with 3.3. Any ideas where I can get it or any workarounds???? Thanks. Steve. sdoyle@ois.com.au
From: lstowell@pyrtech.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:43:38 -0800 Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation Message-ID: <5be6pq$9q0@pyrtech.mis.pyramid.com> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> <5b62ai$q63@masters0.InterNex.Net> <32d95f11.42670641@news.aye.net> In article <32d95f11.42670641@news.aye.net>, Mike <mike@aye.net> wrote: >Just use the Edit Find function of your browser for simple searches. I have a PDF file of a book that is over 3 inches thick. Care to try your advice on it? I'll even make it easy and note that the book is on CD-ROM....along with about 40 other books. If I use Acrobat Reader 3, I can get anywhere I need to in that book instantly.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb 2.5beta: 777 bug? Date: 14 Jan 1997 14:08:54 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5bg41m$ckb@bignews.shef.ac.uk> I've found that using OW2.5 (and maybe others before?) permissions on the download directory are set to 777; this may not be convenient for some people! Something to watch out for if you're concerned about security. Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS Installation FAQ? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:02:23 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Message-ID: <32DB4B9F.2E80@us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a NeXTSTEP installation FAQ for Black hardware? Thanks, Jason
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: NS Install on New HD? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:59:59 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Message-ID: <32DB4B0F.6839@us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a NeXTstation mono with a 100MB internal hard drive that I would like to replace with a 1GB Seagate ST31230N. The new SCSI hard drive mounts fine but I do not know how to install NeXTSTEP onto it. I have NS 3.0 on cdrom and I have a NEC 6x SCSI cdrom connected to the NeXTstation and it works with the 100MB drive with NS loaded. When I boot with the new hard drive I get to a ROM monitor and I type b to boot. It examines the SCSI devices and then tries to load off of the cdrom and then craps out. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jason
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, [ ... ] Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:41:13 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gmtBK9u00iWl01r=w0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com> <19970121041700.XAA24463@ladder01.news.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <19970121041700.XAA24463@ladder01.news.aol.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 21-Jan-97 Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspod.. by Rsjoh@aol.com >>> CLI. Ironic as it is, I believe thare must be a way to integreate GUI >>> and CLI gracefully, without scaring the uninitiated. >> >> Yes! It was done by NeXT... > > No, it was done by Apple, with their Commando program that was a part of > A/UX. Commando presented you with a dialog box with radio buttons, drop > down menus, etc. with the various options/switchs for Unix commands. Thus > you didn't have to memorize all the obscure switchs for all the commands. It was a neat idea in theory. In practice, AU/X was Apple's attempt at writing a bad Unix implementation. Even Microsoft did a better job of creating a Unix-like operating system in the form of Windows NT. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Jelske.Kloppenburg@gmd.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Showstopper bug in Quantrix? Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:37:20 GMT Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany Message-ID: <5bfk4g$v8j@omega.gmd.de> References: <E3GJyH.216@flop.schwaben.de> <5akpdk$2r4@news.istar.ca> <5ala8f$fke@news3.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <5ala8f$fke@news3.digex.net> On 01/04/97, John Kheit wrote: >jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) wrote: >> On 01/03/97, Holger Hoffstaette wrote: >> >Does anybody else get the above error? If so, is there a fix? > >> Yup, I have Quantrix for NeXT hardware and pressing the charting >> button always crashes the application. I don't know if there is >> a fix. It is a very obvious bug and it baffles me that the error >> exists. There seem to be crippling bugs in many of Lighthouse's >> products. Recently there have been numerous complaints concerning >> OpenWrite deleting the contents of user's home directories. I >> also have troubles with Concurrence saving corrupt files. > >There is a fix for it on the FAQ in their web site. You have to >just delete some file in the wrapper, but I forget which off hand... > >Their site has the answer though... I have a better answer! In the wrapper find English.lproj/Charts/3D and rename '3D' to a longer name - '3DD' works but if you have a better name ... -- Jelske Kloppenburg, +49 2241 14-2433, <Jelske.Kloppenburg@gmd.de> GMD - German National Research Center for Information Technology "Don't kill the Winners!" Dennis Tsichritzis
From: Jaime.Pinto@ip.pt (Jaime Lares Rebelo Pinto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:44:57 -0100 Organization: (Utilizador da IP) Message-ID: <19970121084457374235@pm-lx-2-10.net.ip.pt> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> Sam.Chow <Sam.Chow@prodigy.net> wrote: [...] > > So what I am suggesting to the NeXT/Mac community and specifically to > Apple if anyone from Apple is reading this is, Release 2 version of > the next MacOS. For example, I am sure that Apple would love to enter > the Server/Enterprise market. With Openstep that is geared towards this > market, I say release Rhaspody that is based majority with the feel > and feature of NeXT. The possible users for Rhaspody, developers, > system administrators and engineers, power-users. At the same time > release a less-powerful system without the bells or whistles like > system setup (like in win95, it has that capability but you can choose > not to have it), CLI.... But this less-powerful system would be more > compatible with System 7 applications as well as having a more fimiliar > mac feel GUI. Release these 2 os'es to the market by the end of the > year. > > From here either a final version of the MacOS would be released by > next year's end that is to be determine from the market response of the > 2 os'es or Apple could still continue to use 2 os'es that are fully > compatible with each other but each os geared towards a specialized > user. > > > > > Later, > > Samuel Chow > > No signature. Just > #include <std_disclaimer.h> I hope that with the UNIX power, and with something well designed on top of it, there'll be no need for 2 OSs, wich would create more problems for Apple and users. Look and feel should be configurable in ways that will please different people, including MacOS users like me, and Next users. Configuration and the set of extra software, to give with each computer, must be the way to differenciate options . Probably, there could be a point in releasing a version wich would require less resources, but that would probably break the power of the OS, and give way to lots of incompatibilities and problems, so I think that it's wise to continue the development of System 7 instead. I believe that things like shells and compatibility are fundamental, so there there shouldn't be limited implementations or distributions of them. I hope Apple doesn't use artificial limitations also, like MS did. I hope they don't use early market response to decide how the system should be, because then the market response wouldn't be representative of all potential users, the developers and early adopters would be overly represented. Cheers, Jaime.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.5beta: 777 bug? Date: 14 Jan 1997 15:47:31 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5bg9qj$fm7@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5bg41m$ckb@bignews.shef.ac.uk> In article <5bg41m$ckb@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes: > I've found that using OW2.5 (and maybe others before?) permissions on the > download directory are set to 777; this may not be convenient for some > people! Something to watch out for if you're concerned about security. That's not the permissions of MY downlaod directory (/tmp/username) using OmniWeb. My download directory is readable only be me. The scratch directory (/tmp/OmniWeb), is 777 but OmniWeb places individual directories inside that for each instance/user. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Control: cancel <01bc06df$49c12680$0d08bacc@SpRogers.SHRMED.COM> Newsgroups: ak.forsale,austin.forsale,ba.misc.forsale,ca.forsale.misc,can.atlantic.forsale,can.forsale,chi.forsale,chico.forsale,cle.forsale,cmh.forsale,comp.forsale,comp.misc.forsale,comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.next.software,dc.forsale.computers From: "Spencer Rogers" <spencer@ptd.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <01bc06df$49c12680$0d08bacc@SpRogers.SHRMED.COM> Sender: "Spencer Rogers" <spencer@ptd.net> Organization: Spam-me-not! Message-ID: <cancel.01bc06df$49c12680$0d08bacc@SpRogers.SHRMED.COM> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:22:18 GMT Original subject line: FS: Misc CD-ROM titles! This post was canceled in dc.forsale.* for one or more of the following: 1. It was obnoxious commercial spamming. 2. It was outragiously off-topic. 3. It was a non-local post to a local newsgroup. 4. It was crossposted to numerous and far-flung local newsgroups. 5. It was my post and I felt like it. :-) Direct flames or praise to: cwilkins@boink.clark.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: Mail header Message-ID: <E447I1.4MJ@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU Organization: A.L.I. Technologies, Inc. Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:01:13 GMT References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970115144705.1106A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> In comp.sys.next.software "Robert G. Jacobs" wrote: > I would like all email I send from my machine to have a From header > that sends mail back to a different machine of mine. If I add a From > header in Preferences->Expert, then all MIME mail I send has the new From > header. However, all Nextmail and 'Plain text' simply adds on an extra > From header that other mail programs apparently ignore. > > How can I get Nextmail and plain text to use only my new From header? > Or is there another way to accomplish this? I'm not sure from your description if this is exactly what you want, but you might be interested in using the Reply-to header instead. This will cause any replies sendtto your messages to be sent to the alternate e-mail address rather than the one in the From header. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "Trespassers will be." -- Buddhist warning sign
From: rsjoh@aol.com (Rsjoh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Retraining for Rhapsody with WatchMe.app Date: 14 Jan 1997 23:50:36 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970114234800.SAA13015@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5be02m$h62@news.xmission.com> This is already available in System 7.5.x, it's called Apple Guide and it does everything listed for WatchMe.app. Scott Johnson
From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 14 Jan 1997 23:58:51 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5bh6jr$fvn@darla.visi.com> References: <MPG.d45ba729c0df226989681@news.xmission.com> <5bh3k1$q1r@shelob.afs.com> Gregory H. Anderson (Greg_Anderson@afs.com) wrote: : Kevin Pompei writes : > They are NOT irrelevant. Apple has said that developers can use today's : > OpenStep to develop Rhapsody applications. So basically, today's : > NEXTSTEP applications are really the first Rhapsody applications. : Yeah. Isn't that GREAT?! Yep. :) -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (Guenther Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DTP for Nextstep? Date: 21 Jan 1997 19:53:49 GMT Organization: University of Economics and Business Administration, Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <5c36sd$45e@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> What is the best DTP program available for Nextstep under HP PA RISC? All I could find was Framemaker, which is rather weak. All other programs aren't compiled for PA RISC as far as I know. Guenther
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP for Nextstep? Date: 21 Jan 1997 20:26:37 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5c38pt$t3v@shelob.afs.com> References: <5c36sd$45e@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> Guenther Bauer writes > What is the best DTP program available for Nextstep under HP PA RISC? > All I could find was Framemaker, which is rather weak. All other > programs aren't compiled for PA RISC as far as I know. PasteUp is quad-FAT. You can pull a demo copy from next.ftp.peak.org, then get a demo license by writing to <PasteUp@afs.com>. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
From: chafi@aol.com (Chafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Immediate Nextstep Openings for Programmers... Date: 21 Jan 1997 20:45:43 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970121204500.PAA27097@ladder01.news.aol.com> Hello We are currently looking for programers (three positions available) with excellent Nextstep background for a major telecom corporation located in IOWA. Long term contract positions, Salary and benifits as per experience. Contact: Amar Vakil or Stan Menezes (312) 930 9000 Send resumes on (312) 930 0510 E-mail : apsi@ix.netcom.com 01/21/97
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Previewing MSWord Docs on OpenStep Message-ID: <5bgq4n$mom$1@jake.esu.edu> From: katz@cs.millersv.edu (Beth Katz) Date: 14 Jan 1997 20:25:59 GMT References: <jchan-ya023580001201971414540001@news.apk.net> Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania RE: Previewing MSWord Docs on OpenStep Jerome Chan (jchan@apk.net) wrote: > Are there any Apps or Objects(?) that will do the above? Well, AFS (WriteUp@afs.com) had WriteUp that used various filters to read and write MS Word and other types of foreign (non-NeXT) documents. However, I don't believe they are selling WriteUp currently. Their license for the filters expired. There used to be a demo available. Maybe if someone is no longer using their copy of WriteUp, they might sell it to you. Or perhaps they will start selling it again. Another approach is to get Executor. It is an emulator for a Mac. It can run MS Word 5.1. I've used that combination to write a chapter for a book (on HyperCard 2 which also runs under Executor with some minor shortcomings). You'll need to install Word on a Mac and copy it to NEXTSTEP. It takes five HD diskettes. (My copy is from a site license for my work at school.) Contact info@ardi.com. Both of these "solutions" work with NEXTSTEP 3.1 and up and perhaps earlier versions. They are not OPENSTEP-only or OPENSTEP-ready apps. At least not right now Sorry I can't be more helpful. I'm a happy long-time user and beta- tester for these apps. Beth Katz katz@cs.millersv.edu
From: gsupport@mttam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenGraph/OpenStep Gamma Program Date: 21 Jan 1997 22:25:40 GMT Organization: VVI Data Control Specialists Message-ID: <5c3fp4$qfr@news3.digex.net> Originator: gsupport@ OpenGraph/OpenStep Gamma Program VVI Data Control Specialists (VVI-DCS) 311 Adams Ave. State College, PA 16803 Attn: OpenGraph Coordinator 814-234-9613 ; 888-DCS-OPEN gsupport@mttam.com State College, PA, 20 January 1997: VVI-DCS announced an expansion of its OpenGraph on OpenStep gamma program. If your business is interested in gamma testing OpenGraph please contact VVI-DCS at gsupport@mttam.com. "We've been working on the OpenGraph/OpenStep port for about a year now." said John Brilhart, Chief Technical Officer at VVI-DCS. "Our customers are reporting complex data sets from global real-time data feeds up to 500 events per second. That type of data reporting requires reliable and optimized report software. The gamma program is an important final part of our total quality control of the OpenGraph port." John adds, "The improvements and new features accompanying that port ensures our commanding lead in the high-end data reporting markets. With OpenStep and OpenGraph we provide compelling and unique solutions which have market advantages for our customers. For that reason we've always been fully committed to OpenStep on all platforms and have been working with NeXT and Sun for quite a while. We expect to apply the same level of commitment to the Apple version of OpenStep when it becomes available." About VVI-DCS: VVI-DCS, founded in 1989, builds custom OpenStep based data report and acquisition systems for the financial service, manufacturing, pharmaceutical and biotech industries and is the leading supplier of high-end data report software for the OpenStep market. About OpenGraph: OpenGraph is a framework of Objective-C and C++ objects for reporting data in graph and textual formats and consists of a graph building application and pre-built objects. OpenGraph accepts real-time feeds from any source and serves as a graphing front-end for real-time financial analysis, transaction, production and inventory analysis, database systems, and instrumentation. OpenGraph is fully object-oriented and is well suited to systems which require reliability, exacting specifications and performance. OpenGraph Status (OpenStep Versions): OpenGraph V3.3a is running in gamma mode in these configurations: (1) Solaris/OpenStep, (2) Mach/OpenStep V4.1 on SPARC/Intel/NeXT computers, (3) Windows NT V4.0/OpenStep. A NDA is required for participation in the gamma program. OpenGraph Status (NEXTSTEP Versions): The OpenGraph V3.2k CD is available for NeXT, HP PA-RISC, SPARC, and Intel computers running NEXTSTEP V3.2 or V3.3. OpenGraph V3.2m is available on DAT and a contract basis for NeXT, HP PA-RISC, SPARC, and Intel computers running NEXTSTEP V3.2 or V3.3. _________________________________ (C) Copyright 1997 VVimaging, Inc. (VVI-DCS); All rights reserved. OpenGraph, GraphBuilder, VVI Data Control Specialists, VVI-DCS, and VVimaging are trademarks of VVimaging, Inc. (VVI-DCS). NeXT, NEXTSTEP and OpenStep are trademarks of NeXT Software, Inc. Sun Microsystems and Solaris are trademarks or registered trademarks of Sun Microsystems, Inc. in the United States and other countries. All SPARC trademarks are used under license and are trademarks or registered trademarks of SPARC international, Inc. in the United States and other countries. Intel is a registered trademarks of Intel. Microsoft and Windows are registered trademarks of Microsoft, Inc. Windows NT is a trademark of Microsoft, Inc. All other trademarks and service marks belong to their respective owners.
From: daweb@hr.house.gov (Richard Diamond) Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:55:32 GMT Organization: U.S. House of Representatives Message-ID: <5bghul$gcm@neon.house.gov> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> <Pine.PMDF.3.95.970111145001.631308429B-100000@conrad.appstate.edu> <01bc014e$02a25080$87589ace@Pjafiore> <32de8aac.83436568@news.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html The speed of PDF printing depends on the power of your computer. I worked in an office with a slooow network and 486-50's -- PDF files took an eternity to print. On my home P120 at home, they fly. This is a case of your mileage may vary. As for the use of PDF, I do document layout with lots of kerning and font spacing to make it look properly professional. Pagemaker can, with a press of a button, distill it into a PDF file that can print on any platform running PDF, and the output is *perfect*. That is the key benefit of PDF. Richard Diamond >"Jeff Fiore" <jafiore@webspan.net> wrote: >>I agree PDF is great but the only problem I have with it is that it takes >>forever to print and if other print jobs are printing, you will get an >>error that the printer is busy. >>Jeff
From: tony@lookgood.demon.co.uk (Tony Gillie) Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:08:24 GMT Message-ID: <32de8aac.83436568@news.demon.co.uk> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <5b2n2u$ltm@Montreal.com.br> <Pine.PMDF.3.95.970111145001.631308429B-100000@conrad.appstate.edu> <01bc014e$02a25080$87589ace@Pjafiore> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html "Jeff Fiore" <jafiore@webspan.net> wrote: >I agree PDF is great but the only problem I have with it is that it takes >forever to print and if other print jobs are printing, you will get an >error that the printer is busy. >Jeff > For what it's worth, I've had the exact opposite experience. I got fed up with waiting for MS Word and MS Publisher to print multiple copies of moderately complex documents (to a local HP Laserjet 4M plus (postscript with 6Mb RAM), so I 'printed' the originals to pdf format, and printed them from Acrobat Reader to the Laserjet. MUCH faster. The only downside is that there doesn't seem to be a 'collate' option when printing from Acrobat Reader. The documents in question contained mostly postscript fonts and a fair number of small embedded images. Tony [previous article extracts snipped] -- Dr Tony Gillie IT Consultancy, Programming, and Desktop Publishing Services tony@lookgood.demon.co.uk
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Home Finance Software for OpenStep? Date: 15 Jan 1997 05:26:34 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5bhpqa$o5d@news.digifix.com> References: <5bgjka$kd4@aadt.sdt.com> In-Reply-To: <5bgjka$kd4@aadt.sdt.com> On 01/14/97, Eric Smalling wrote: >Are there any good (comperable to Quicken 6 or 7) home finance software app's >for the OpenStep/NextStep? At home I use WinBlows 95 and would love to get a >copy of OpenStep for Mach (for Intel) but I really don't think I'd like >dual-booting just so I can update my Quicken Register every day. > > Currently there is CheckSum, which is marketed by Stone Design (www.stone.com)... I have pretty near zero interest in financials though, so I've never used it. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 15 Jan 1997 04:29:31 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bhmfb$rb4@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar> <nervous-ya02408000R0301970202130001@news.netrover.com> <5ajjq7$bu@news.platinum.com> <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net> <MPG.d45ba729c0df226989681@news.xmission.com> kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) wrote: > In article <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net>, gmgraves@earthlink.net spouts > forth... > > Also > > the apps available for NeXT at this point are completely > > irrelevant. When the Mac system is NeXT, new versions of Mac > They are NOT irrelevant. Apple has said that developers can use today's > OpenStep to develop Rhapsody applications. So basically, today's NEXTSTEP > applications are really the first Rhapsody applications. Well, this probably isn't quite true. I doubt that Apple will port the NEXTSTEP shared libraries necessary to run NEXTSTEP apps. Today's OPENSTEP apps may be the first Rhapsody apps, so we need to get busy converting NEXTSTEP apps to OPENSTEP. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:52:22 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Distribution: inet Message-ID: <E4D5BA.4F1@micmac.com> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <E2uL81.16F@micmac.com> <32c0162f.14922692@news.sover.net> <jhsterne-ya023280002412961838040001@news.earthlink.net> Cc: jhsterne@earthlink.net In <jhsterne-ya023280002412961838040001@news.earthlink.net> Jason S. wrote: > In article <32c0162f.14922692@news.sover.net>, togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) > wrote: > > > Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> wrote: > > > > >In <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> Lance Togar wrote: > > >> Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> >In <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> Lance Togar wrote: > > >> >> I wonder if Jobs has retained the same Apple DWEEDISM > > >> >> he had when he "invented" the 3.5" > > >> >> floppy drive that I'd been using on my TRS-80 for > > >> >> years before his announcement. > > >> > > > >> >Are you joking? Or insane? > > >> > > >> Neither, the details are in an earlier post. You're just plain > > >> wrong and annoyingly so at that. > > >> Time to read something that wasn't printed > > >> by Apple. > > > > > >You're still stupid! You posted your story AFTER I posted this! > > > > > > > Really helping you cause here. > > Next time you're bored, slip into a computer store - buy some > > books and read 'em. > > > > >me: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 15:26:03 +0000 (<E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com>) > > >you: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:46:49 +0000 (<32bdc985.27070955@news.sover.net>) > > > > > So.... YOUR news server doesn't know the correct time or date. Why is > > it I'm not surprised? > > Do either of you understand that Usenet posts take time ‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘ > to propagate? This is a little bit old but I just found it out and since it's insulting to me I have to answer! You imply that we two don't know that Usenet posts take time to propagate... But if you had brain between ears you'd understand that this suspicion could work for Lance (who by the way has nothing between ears) but not for me! Incidently Tim Smith kindly corrected you: "But they generally only propogate *forward* in time." But I'm not sure you got it... > J. > -- mc
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 15 Jan 97 01:26:48 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF01E2DD-A9293@207.147.62.88> References: <5bhmfb$rb4@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.mac.advocacy On Tue, Jan 14, 1997 11:29 PM, Art Isbell <mailto:aisbell@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > Well, this probably isn't quite true. I doubt that Apple will port the > NEXTSTEP shared libraries necessary to run NEXTSTEP apps. Today's > OPENSTEP > apps may be the first Rhapsody apps, so we need to get busy converting > NEXTSTEP apps to OPENSTEP. this is a pretty accurate statement. Take a look at NeXT's website. They now have a MacOS section that basically says that OpenStep applications can easily be converted to the new MacOS. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu (Coffee) Subject: Re: How do I get Calliope.font to work? Message-ID: <E41FnG.7s@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago References: <E3vwCK.MJI@midway.uchicago.edu> <E40o6v.Fow@nidat.sub.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 07:04:28 GMT Calliope is not an afm font. the 'FM' doesn't say what to do with non-afm fonts in terms of buildafmdir. it compes with the application that requires it, but i cannot find any readme's as to what to do with it except that the program doesn't see it and refues to start. bryce -- ()-() Bryce B. Sady NeXT mail Welcome (o o) http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/bbsady /\o/\
From: David Andel <no@spam.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP for Nextstep? Date: 22 Jan 1997 00:12:20 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5c3m14$3hp@colossus.nexttoyou.de> References: <5c36sd$45e@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> In article <5c36sd$45e@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (Guenther Bauer) writes: > What is the best DTP program available for Nextstep under HP > PA RISC? All I could find was Framemaker, which is rather > weak. All other programs aren't compiled for PA RISC as far as > I know. There's also DigiScript from OneVision, if you're searching a real killer app. Ask info@onevision.de for more details and a demo license. David Andel <david@nexttoyou.de> -- NEXTTOYOU magazine (http://www.nexttoyou.de)
From: trubane@jove.acs.unt.edu (Thomas RuBane) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:28:28 -0600 Organization: University of North Texas Message-ID: <trubane-1501970128280001@den1-2-17.dialup.unt.edu> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar> <nervous-ya02408000R0301970202130001@news.netrover.com> <5ajjq7$bu@news.platinum.com> <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net> In article <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net>, gmgraves@earthlink.net wrote: <deletia> > > Has anyone mentioned in this thread that the Mac OS version of > NeXT Step will look and feel like a Mac not like NeXT? Also > the apps available for NeXT at this point are completely > irrelevant. When the Mac system is NeXT, new versions of Mac > apps will be available for it, but they will be MAC APPS not > NeXT apps. > > George Graves I agree with the comments regarding the NeXTSTEP interface. I have wanted a NeXT system for years, but contented myself with the Macintosh. It was my concession to mainstream computing. More shrinkwrapped aps, etc. But I've always lusted after the NeXT interface. It would be a mistake for Apple to completely discard it. If they (Apple) are serious about being able to customize the look and feel of OS8 with various themes and styles, why wouldn't they keep the NeXT gui as an option? I also have wondered about the future of NeXT (the company.) Mayble I haven't paid close enough attention, but will NeXT continue as an entity, or be subsumed in Apple? Will all NeXT users have to become Mac OS8 users, or will NeXTSTEP and OpenStep still be available from sources other than Apple? Tom RuBane
From: jhsterne@mindspring.com.nospam (Jason S.) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 21:41:33 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Distribution: inet Message-ID: <jhsterne-ya02408000R2101972141330001@news.mindspring.com> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <E2uL81.16F@micmac.com> <32c0162f.14922692@news.sover.net> <jhsterne-ya023280002412961838040001@news.earthlink.net> <E4D5BA.4F1@micmac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <E4D5BA.4F1@micmac.com>, mic@micmac.com wrote: > In <jhsterne-ya023280002412961838040001@news.earthlink.net> Jason S. > wrote: > > In article <32c0162f.14922692@news.sover.net>, togar@msn.com (Lance > Togar) > > wrote: > > > > > Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> wrote: > > > > > > >In <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> Lance Togar wrote: > > > >> Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> >In <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> Lance Togar wrote: > > > >> >> I wonder if Jobs has retained the same Apple DWEEDISM > > > >> >> he had when he "invented" the 3.5" > > > >> >> floppy drive that I'd been using on my TRS-80 for > > > >> >> years before his announcement. > > > >> > > > > >> >Are you joking? Or insane? > > > >> > > > >> Neither, the details are in an earlier post. You're just plain > > > >> wrong and annoyingly so at that. > > > >> Time to read something that wasn't printed > > > >> by Apple. > > > > > > > >You're still stupid! You posted your story AFTER I posted this! > > > > > > > > > > Really helping you cause here. > > > Next time you're bored, slip into a computer store - buy some > > > books and read 'em. > > > > > > >me: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 15:26:03 +0000 (<E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com>) > > > >you: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 00:46:49 +0000 > (<32bdc985.27070955@news.sover.net>) > > > > > > > So.... YOUR news server doesn't know the correct time or date. > Why is > > > it I'm not surprised? > > > > Do either of you understand that Usenet posts take time > ‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘ > > to propagate? > > This is a little bit old but I just found it out and since it's > insulting to me I have to answer! > You imply that we two don't know that Usenet posts take time to > propagate... But if you had brain between ears you'd understand that > this suspicion could work for Lance (who by the way has nothing > between ears) but not for me! > Incidently Tim Smith kindly corrected you: "But they generally only > propogate *forward* in time." But I'm not sure you got it... > Excuse me? My post was obviously pointing out just how petty an argument over who posted what first was. And my having "brain between my ears" [sic] is completely unrelated to my knowing whether or not you have the common sense to realize that when you and Lance posted has no relationship to when you and Lance read said posts. Grow up. J. I'd flame you, but I think your post speaks for itself.
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:38:48 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Message-ID: <E4DwGp.768@micmac.com> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com> <5c0nvp$agt@odyssey.cognex.com> Cc: lark@odyssey.cognex.com In <5c0nvp$agt@odyssey.cognex.com> Lar Kaufman wrote: > In article <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com>, Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> wrote: > >In <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Robb Lincoln > >wrote: > >> CLI. Ironic as it is, I believe thare must be a way to integreate GUI > >> and CLI gracefully, without scaring the uninitiated. > > > >Yes! It was done by NeXT... > > I'd credit that feature to MIT--as a general feature of the > X Window System--if you are talking about thriving solutions. Otherwise > I'd have to say that probably the very first was Richard Stallman's > command interface solutions for LISP. > Most of us won't credit X Windows with the name of GUI... mc
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:25:11 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Distribution: inet Message-ID: <E4DyM1.7G6@micmac.com> References: <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> <E49A7L.J3@micmac.com> <jones.948-ya02408000R2001971814190001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> Cc: jones.948@osu.edu In <jones.948-ya02408000R2001971814190001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> Steve Jones wrote: > Actually the other way around; I was thinking (since next is quite a bit > older than win95) that ms copied it from them. Apparently this is the case. > Ok! You wanted confirmation... You have =;) mc
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 21:11:04 -0600 From: billw@xpense.com Subject: Wanted: Write Now (040) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <853902109.11355@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Hello all! i am almost in possesion of my NeXT Station, and would love some cheap software.... anyone got any for me? thanks much, tcoy bill billw@xpense.com -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP for Nextstep? Date: 22 Jan 1997 04:02:06 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970122040201.XAA14968@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5c38pt$t3v@shelob.afs.com> Isn't OneVision Quad-fat? There's an unofficial web site on this in Europe somewhere--anyone know if the manufacturer has an official web or ftp site? There's a book on this, no? digiscipt fpr PDF-, PS- and EPS-editing Book (engl.) with CD (but only with demo-license for the software): DigiScript edits digital manuscripts), Springer-Verlag, Berlin, ISBN 3-540-61643-8, 390 pp. 500 figs. in color www.amazon.com had the above book in their listing, but it wasn't available as of yet--anyone know how limited the demo is? Or how much it costs to license DigiScript? I'm surprised by the characterization of FrameMaker as weak--inflexible perhaps if one needs to do advertising work... William \ William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How do I get Calliope.font to work? Message-ID: <E40o6v.Fow@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <E3vwCK.MJI@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 21:11:19 GMT In article <E3vwCK.MJI@midway.uchicago.edu> bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu (Coffee) writes: > Hi again. I have Calliope.font I need it to run a program known > as Calliope. The font is not an afm or bitmap font. Therefore, > all I can do is link it in /NextLibrary/Fonts/outlines and have > its own directory. However, all the programs say that it still > can't find the font. What do I need to do to update the font to > be available to the program? Hey, another big hit on my hunt for RTFMs ;-) See the man-page on 'buildafmdir'. That should put you into the picture. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SCSITape and NS4.1 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 22 Jan 1997 04:15:32 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5c4494$psd@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Hello, for the last 3 days I have been trying to install a driver for my DAT drive on my new 4.1 Intel setup. Rumor has it that the 4.X tape driver is broken, but somehow I hope there is a workaround for such an essential feature. If you have info how to make a tape work on 4.X, please let me know. Thanks, - Stan --- Nature photography: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: 22 Jan 1997 04:30:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5c4554$k30@news.digifix.com> References: <19970121041700.XAA24463@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5c1jfu$5dc@usenet.rpi.edu> In-Reply-To: <5c1jfu$5dc@usenet.rpi.edu> On 01/20/97, Garance A. Drosehn wrote: >rsjoh@aol.com (Rsjoh) writes: >> No, it was done by Apple, with their Commando program that was >> a part of A/UX. Commando presented you with a dialog box with >> radio buttons, drop down menus, etc. with the various options/switchs >> for Unix commands. Thus you didn't have to memorize all the >> obscure switchs for all the commands. > >Yes, that is pretty nice. > >Wasn't it in MPW (under MacOS) first? Maybe not, it's quite >likely that I was paying attention to MPW before I did much >of anything with A/UX. > Well MPW had it as well, but I'm not entirely sure that Commando can rightfully be called a User Interface on command line utils. Thats kinda stretching what it was. Its definately a UI wrapper, but it does little to actually make it that much easier to use the tools. Scott Mac developer from way back (can you say software supplement?) -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Previewing MSWord Docs on OpenStep Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:02:31 +0100 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <32DCAB37.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <jchan-ya023580001201971414540001@news.apk.net> <5bgq4n$mom$1@jake.esu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beth Katz wrote: > RE: Previewing MSWord Docs on OpenStep Jerome Chan (jchan@apk.net) wrote: > Are there any Apps or Objects(?) that will do the above? Yes. Lighthouse Openwrite come with ConverterInstaller.app holding filters for MSWord. It converts MS Winword Documents quite usable to openwrite docs and vice versa ! stefan -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP for Nextstep? Date: 22 Jan 1997 01:24:45 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5c3q8t$jlc@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5c36sd$45e@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (Guenther Bauer) wrote: > What is the best DTP program available for Nextstep under HP PA > RISC? All I could find was Framemaker, which is rather weak. > All other programs aren't compiled for PA RISC as far as I know. Look for an application called PasteUp, from a company called AFS (Anderson Financial Systems). There is a demo version available, on ftp.next.peak.org if no where else. I suspect it's also at the peanuts ftp site (in Germany, which might be quicker for you), but don't really know that for sure. The contacts for peanuts are: World Wide Web: http://peanuts.leo.org/ FTP access: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/ --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: liu@earth.seas.ucla.edu (W. Liu) Subject: restore Boot sector after installing Win95 Sender: news@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (USENET news) Message-ID: <E4DKCv.J8M@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:17:19 GMT Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department I have two patitions on my hard diak for both DOS and NeXT. Recently I upgraded the Win3.1 to Win95. And I found the boot sector was also modified automatically. Anyone knows how I could still have the choice to go either Win95 or NeXT at the very beginning of booting? Certainly I don't want to re-install NeXT stuff once again. Thanks in advance.
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.graphics.rendering.renderman,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: App for SpaceJam? Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 23:24:14 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <32E5C088.38E5@earthlink.net> References: <32E1761C.7000@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Eric A. Dubiel wrote: > > Anyone remember what that app was called that created 3D in SpaceJam on > NEXTSTEP, and the URL? No 3D was done on NeXTSTEP on Space Jam. All of the 2D images (Bugs, Daffy, etc.) were scanned, inked and painted, and output using the Animo Digital Ink & Paint System by Cambridge Animation Systems which currently runs on NeXTSTEP. The 3D work was generated at Cinesite and most likely done on SGI's. http://www.animo.com http://www.warnerbros.com/ STEVE K. ************************************ “Sorry Bill, I don’t do Windows!” ************************************
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Date: 18 Jan 1997 16:57:04 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs-@cais.com (take out the dash to reply in mail) Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5bqvd0$ji8@portal.gmu.edu> References: <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: Monoply$oft innovate? never. Keywords: yes Cc: In article <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Steve Jones <jones.948@osu.edu> wrote: >I was just curious, did next have the "recycle bin" before Win95 came out? > Yes, of course it did. It's had it since the OS came out. Find a feature in 95 that 'looks similar' and you'd see something that has been around in NeXTSTEP since before 95 was even thought of. Bill's great at ripping off ideas, allways has been, probably allways will be. Microsoft is a monopoly, and you should expect them to act like monopolists. That's not neccesarily bad, it just is. I personaly find them as a corporation slightly less annoying if I use that perspective. Tim -- ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail, MIME) Tim Scanlon tfs@epic.org (PGP key aval.) crypto is good Seal Technologies Inc. I own my own words
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GUI for gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz ? Date: 22 Jan 1997 10:25:29 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5c4pup$gv5@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> A Mac user posted praise for Stuffit for its ability to let users view the contents of compressed files, and derided tar for it's lack. But of course, you can see the contents in a shell with "gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz" Is there a GUI NeXT app that does this? -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda) Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Message-ID: <E459zx.4uv@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organisation: AWT Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar> <nervous-ya02408000R0301970202130001@news.netrover.com> <5ajjq7$bu@news.platinum.com> <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net> <trubane-1501970128280001@den1-2-17.dialup.unt.edu> <maury-1501971113270001@199.166.204.230> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:52:45 GMT maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) wrote: >In article <trubane-1501970128280001@den1-2-17.dialup.unt.edu>, >trubane@jove.acs.unt.edu (Thomas RuBane) wrote: > >> If they (Apple) are serious about being able to customize the look and >> feel of OS8 with various themes and styles, why wouldn't they keep the >> NeXT gui as an option? > > I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they'll do. I wonder if it is a good strategy. Making this an option will be good on the short term (which is important because of survival) because it will make the transition from the Mac GUI smooth. But in the long term, it will keep people hanging at that UI because "that's the standard". Especially companies will not want to invest in using a new GUI if they see it as 'nonstandard'. So that strategy will introduce a lot of inertia. I am not so afraid for a GUI change for the public/business at large. See how easily Win95 got picked up instead of Windows 3.11. It takes some courage, but a definite 'leap forward' is doable and better for the longer term. Besides, Apple needs to distance itself again from Microsoft. I see good chances for Apple if it takes basically the NEXTSTEP GUI and makes an OS which - out of the box - handles video, graphics, sound in all its incarnations perfectly. No hassle, "it just works". If Microsoft is too slow going over to the Yellow Box, Apple should maybe increase the stakes with another Office suite, maybe Wordperfect. That would be good policy for both Wordperfect (in competition with MS Office) and Apple (in competition with MS Windows). Again, all these things I cannot knwo what is best. That depends also on market research and other things which I have not done. Apple needs to hit the right combo of visonary technology and market savvy. I think they can do it. -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt."
From: fenris@aol.com (Fenris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb Launch Freezes Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:31:54 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970115132900.IAA03115@ladder01.news.aol.com> I've recently become the owner of a OPENSTEP portable, and would like to do some web browsing from it. I've gotten PPP up and working (I can telnet out and it's finding its nameservers), but OmniWeb is hanging on launch (with the dimmed icon at the bottom of the screen). I'm a Mac developer, new to NeXT and with my UNIX days long behind me; if there are configuration mistakes that only an idiot would make please don't assume that I haven't made them! OmniWeb does NOT freeze if I don't have a PPP connection running when I launch. (Of course, I can't access anything that isn't local!) I'm running OPENSTEP 4.1 for Mach on Intel and the latest OmniWeb. Any help would be appreciated! John Willoughby ----------------------------------------------- Microsoft delenda est.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda) Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Message-ID: <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organisation: AWT Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001701971957130001@news.quicksilver.com> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:06:40 GMT christw@lexis-nexis.com (Christopher C. Wood) wrote: >In article <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net>, togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) writes: >|> As I recall, the rage in 1982 was about data bus size vs. ALU size >|> in determining bitness. The Z-80 could do 16-bit register and >|> indirect arithmetic but was labeled an 8-bit processor. The 6502 >|> couldn't do either but was still labeled 8-bit. Personally, I >|> prefer data bus size as the indicator of bitness. However, this is >|> one holy war I'll pass on for now. > >So you agree that the original IBM PC was an 8-bit machine? And some >80386-based machines were 16-bit? Here is my recollection for what it is worth. I would say that the original 8088 was a 16-bit processor. The fact that it had to hit the bus twice to get 16bit data to and from memory doesn't change that internally it worked with 16bit data. This 16bit-ness also showed up as it's default memory limitation was 64kB (16bit addresses) which was upped to 1MB by adding the 'segmentation trick'. The 8bit data path only made the CPU-memory traffic a bottleneck. The 8086 was the 16bit data path version, I would say the 'normal chip' for that series, as the 8088 was the 'constrained chip'. The 80286 and the 80386 are generally the same 32bit chip. Except that the 80286 had a couple of errors (like switching between real and protected mode) that were solved in the 80386. The 80386 came in both a constrained version (16bit data path, the SX types) and a 'normal' version (32bit data path). Between the 80386 and the 80486, there is a big difference. The 80386 was a mess. Intel (smartly) distilled a RISC-like core from the 80386 and put the other backwards compatibility stuff in an emulation on the chip. A floating point part was added. The pentium combined two 486 integer ALU's with a rewritten FP ALU and some extra logic to make the stuff work together (like branch prediction or cache, I forget). I talked to the guy (actually I interviedwed him) who was responsible for the technical launch of the Pentium during the CeBIT show. Part of the story above (including admitting that the 80[23]86 processor was awful) comes from him. The m68k processor, as far as I know, was 32bit from the start, but came in 'constrained versions'. I think the original 68000 had a 16bit data path. There even exists an m68k which has an 8bit data path). I don't know exactly what the advantages were of a smaller data path, but I would guess it meant cheaper memory. One of the reasons IBM went for the 8088 in the orginal PC (they considered the m68k) was that the m68k turned out to be more expensive in terms of memory. Yours, --- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt."
From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MusicKit installation problem? Date: 22 Jan 1997 13:42:05 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <5c55fd$pao@eve.enteract.com> I'm trying to install the MusicKit_4.1.pkg but have hit a snag. The installer chokes toward the very end of the intallation and reports that there was an error. It appears that most of the package has been installed except for some documentation files and the receipt pkg. Since there is no receipt pkg, I can't easily un-install everything (without going through the bom and finding every file individually). I'm running 3.3 on motorola. Anyone have this experience, or a suggestion about what might be wrong at my end? Thanks. -- Kevin Coffee <kpc@enteract.com> <diffwerk@enteract.com> d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html
From: Eric Doenges <doenges@lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 22 Jan 97 14:31:35 GMT Organization: Lehrstuhl fuer Prozessrechner, TU Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: inet Message-ID: <doenges.853943495@lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001701971957130001@news.quicksilver.com> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> Originator: doenges@batian.lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda) writes: >The 80286 and the 80386 are generally the same 32bit chip. Except that the >80286 had a couple of errors (like switching between real and protected mode) >that were solved in the 80386. The 80386 came in both a constrained version >(16bit data path, the SX types) and a 'normal' version (32bit data path). I love nitpicking, so here goes. The 80286 was NOT a 32 bit chip. It still had only 16 bit registers, and a 16 bit data bus. It couldn't do 32 bit operations. It did have a 16MB address space in protected mode though, and was faster than the 8086. -- Eric Doenges EMail:<doenges@lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> "You don't have to swim faster than the shark, just faster than the guy next to you" - anonymous
From: dcorn@paradise.pplnet.com (David Corn) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:13:59 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32dce58b.422340@news.onramp.net> References: <5b11c5$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <AEFB9EC9-369E0@207.158.13.84> <5b7km0$o68@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <32d7fc3d.82279872@client.sw.news.psi.net> <5ba00l$321@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> <32da8f2b.251026236@client.sw.news.psi.net> <5bfjit$8km@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> <32dc9fc0.529753@news.onramp.net> <32DC5F69.126@rust.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:39:05 -0500, bryan white <bwhite3@rust.net> wrote: >> Compaq has had Klamath 266s for quite a while now. > >Have they sold any of these yet? No. >> deal from there, although I do want to see the 100 mhz busses - _that_ >> will be an improvement. > >There seems to be at least one pentium MB running up to 83 MHZ (ASUS >something or other). What is the PPro MB running at? 66 mhz, isn't it? Yes, Asus runs at 83 mhz, although that isn't a standard, supported spec from Intel. 100 mhz will be. Also a 33 mhz ISA bus will be standardized, although I can't get excited about that. ________________________________________________ Reachable at: 713 629 6947 nights Please quote in all replies
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:13:11 -0500 Organization: Atria Software Message-ID: <maury-1501971113270001@199.166.204.230> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar> <nervous-ya02408000R0301970202130001@news.netrover.com> <5ajjq7$bu@news.platinum.com> <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net> <trubane-1501970128280001@den1-2-17.dialup.unt.edu> In article <trubane-1501970128280001@den1-2-17.dialup.unt.edu>, trubane@jove.acs.unt.edu (Thomas RuBane) wrote: > If they (Apple) are serious about being able to customize the look and > feel of OS8 with various themes and styles, why wouldn't they keep the > NeXT gui as an option? I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they'll do. Maury
From: gbh@erols.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep Apps? Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:07:18 -0500 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <32DD2AE6.CC5@erols.com> References: <trubane-1501970138400001@den1-2-17.dialup.unt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Thomas RuBane <trubane@jove.acs.unt.edu> > [...] > For instance, what www browsers are available for NeXT; and are they > stable, etc? What about word processing, page layout, etc? Is PageMaker > still available for NeXT? [...] Take a look at the following web sites to find software for NEXTSTEP: http://www2.stepwise.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Stepwise/ISVs.woa/146472011089128169909971572160214/Main.wo/2199007260114/1/-/digifix http://peanuts.leo.org/server/information.html --gh
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill@texas.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Problems with Audio CDs and NeXTStep 3.2/Moto Date: 22 Jan 1997 17:11:05 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <5c5hn9$ctc@news3.texas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can't get Audio CDs to mount at all on my 3.2/Moto system (Foundation Kit installed). Regular data CDs (the NS3.2 and 3.0 CD-ROMs) work fine; the cd-rom drive is a Toshiba 3301. Whenever I put in an audio disc, it chews on it for a few seconds, then spits it out. According to the console, it has a bad block 0, or whatever. Never tries to mount it as an audio CD. Have tried *all* the various audio CD player programs, none work (because the system wont properly mount the audio disc). It's almost as if the system won't recognize/mount audio CDs.. did I forget to add a filesystem type somewhere?..... Please email responses to mrbill@texas.net if possible; I've got all these nifty CDs here that I want to listen to . . . . -- Bill Bradford (BB2623) Systems Admin, UNIX geek, BOFH mrbill@texas.net * mrbill@mrbill.net Texas Networking, Inc. "Its hard to beleive that the entire fate of 823 Congress, Suite 440 the world lies in the hands of the Phone Austin, TX 78701 Company" - War of the Worlds http://www.texas.net
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GUI for gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz ? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:47:09 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ImtZ_Ri00iV_46I1hB@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5c4pup$gv5@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> In-Reply-To: <5c4pup$gv5@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 22-Jan-97 GUI for gnutar -ztvf file.t.. by Lee Altenberg@acpub.duke > A Mac user posted praise for Stuffit for its ability to let users view the > contents of compressed files, and derided tar for it's lack. > But of course, you > > can see the contents in a shell with > "gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz" > > Is there a GUI NeXT app that does this? Not exactly, although Installer.app or Opener.app are pretty close and could easily be modified to support that functionality. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.mach From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: OS Componenets of OpenStep for Mach Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E421ww.2CE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:05:20 GMT References: <5bhkt2$t78@manuel.ocs.mq.edu.au> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5bhkt2$t78@manuel.ocs.mq.edu.au>, Jon Tidswell <jont@mri.mq.edu.au> wrote: >[ Note Cross posts ] > >Ive failed to find any concrete details about which version of Mach, >NeXT is using. NeXTSTEP and OPENSTEP/Mach use a 2.5 kernel with NeXT extensions (I don't remember exactly what those are at the moment...) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeWBIE Questions Date: 22 Jan 97 13:54:47 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF0BCCAD-120558@207.147.60.204> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.software I just received my NeXT Cube with Dimension board yesterday and began playing with it. I love this machine and this software. However, as usual, I have a few questions adn would appreciate any information: 1. I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.3 user and 3.2 developer but I don't have the install disks. Is there any way to back up this machine so that it can be reinstalled in the case of a crash? 2. Is there any way to get software for NEXTSTEP from the internet to connect this thing to an Appletalk Ethernet network which I have here with an Apple Server. 3. I have an ADB system, but this thing came with the worst mouse I have ever used. It's a NeXT mouse made in 1992 and is hemispherical with a wedge shape in the front end and two buttons on it. Is there such a thing as a NeXT ADB mouse designed like the original square mouse? Thanks for the help, Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: "T.E. Biesinger" <teb@eng.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: IBM ThinkPad 560 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 20:59:35 +0000 Organization: Cambridge University Engineering Department Message-ID: <32DD4537.22B1@eng.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Does anybody else use an IBM ThinkPad 560 running OPENSTEP 4.0 out there? I would like to make your contact anyway to exchange experience. Here are some of my problems: 1. I am having trouble with the power mode switching using eg Fn 11 for hybernation mode. All others Fn keys work as root only! 2. The pg up and pg down keys do not work. 3. The CD player using the ESS driver set to 'CD' as input does nothing. 4. The power management does not seem to exploit the power saving functions of the hard disk switching it off when not needed. The cannot be set in the preferences either. Thanks a lot! -- --- Dr. Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. PGP-2.6.i key available!
From: Paul Naton <pnatona@cts.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 12:51:09 -0800 Organization: CTS Network Services Message-ID: <32DD433A.285B@cts.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bcske$5ps@news.platinum.com> <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5bedv8$es2@news.platinum.com> <32DBBE9E.1DA3@exnext.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jonathan W. Hendry wrote: > > Gary W. Longsine wrote: > > > In <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Joshua W. Burton wrote: > > > longsine@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) wrote: > > > > What's wrong with matte black, anyway? It's good enough for every > > > cool piece of electronics on the planet _except_ computers, isn't > > it? > > > > I want black, too. > > I wouldn't be surprised if Power Computing could be persuaded > to do a line of black machines. They seem pretty hip. > > -- > Jonathan W. Hendry President, Steel Driving Software, Inc. > OpenStep, Delphi, and Java Consulting in Cincinnati > http://www.steeldriving.com I just painted my PowerTower Pro 180 black. I used Krylon semi matte black after wiping with a light swipe of laquer thinner then alcohol. Looks awsome sitting next to my still cool but aging Next Turbo color system. I have a old next 'jacket pin' stuck in the front speaker grill of the Power Tower. I installed the eclipse setting in Kaleidescope to get that cool black look and Smart Scroll for that Next windowing thing. Replaced the Mac trash with the Next recycler icon too. Now I dont have next withdrawls. Paul Naton Maximum Graphix Love them both.......
From: deniseh@nntp.best.com (Denise Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GUI for gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz ? Date: 22 Jan 1997 20:02:50 GMT Message-ID: <5c5rpa$3og@nntp1.best.com> References: <5c4pup$gv5@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <ImtZ_Ri00iV_46I1hB@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 22-Jan-97 GUI for gnutar : -ztvf file.t.. by Lee Altenberg@acpub.duke : > A Mac user posted praise for Stuffit for its ability to let users view the : > contents of compressed files, and derided tar for it's lack. : > But of course, you : > : > can see the contents in a shell with : > "gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz" : > : > Is there a GUI NeXT app that does this? : Not exactly, although Installer.app or Opener.app are pretty close and : could easily be modified to support that functionality. I'll add this to my list of opportunities for Opener enhancement! Denise -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Appletalk on NeXTStep/OpenStep is here Date: 22 Jan 1997 22:52:19 GMT Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC. Message-ID: <5c65n3$fhk@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> [Sorry for the English x-posting to a german newsgroup, but maybe this is of some interest] Howdy! I am proud to annouce the public availability of the easy-install binary CAP (Columbia Appletalk Package) for NeXTStep 3.3/OpenStep 4.x on Intel processors. It contains everything to turn your NeXTStep system into a AppleShare (Appletalk native Phase II) file and print server. Additional it enables you to mount remote AppleShare volumes on your NeXTStep machine and to print to remote LaserWriters. It contains an administration program called 'CAPer.app' that does most of the installation work and provides you with an interface to control the CAP processes quite painlessly. The installation was tested by various beta testers and for most of them it seems to work. Some parts still requires some sysadmin knowledge but exporting filesystems, mounting filesystems and providing printer spool services should be quite easy to work with. The distribution contains the full source code for BPF0.25b3 and CAPpl198, so you can rebuild the major parts of the package if you want to include some special features in CAP. At the moment you can fetch the package from http://www.this.net/~frank/CAPer.app.V1.I.b.tar.gz http://www.this.net/~frank/README.rtfd.tar.gz You may want to fetch the readme file before downloading the full 2.5 MByte package. It contains information if CAPer will work on your system, see below. ***** On what systems does the package work: It was tested on NeXTSTEP 3.3/Intel and OpenStep 4.0/Intel where it seems to work quite well. It does not work on NeXTSTEP 3.2/Intel due to some missing features in the kernel. ***** Anything to consider before installing: Appletalk Phase II needs multicasting capabilities. Some ethernet drivers don't support this, so read the CAPer documentation if your driver is supported. The kernel server (BPF) needs a lot of kernel memory, you may want to give your system more buffers. Again look in the CAPer documentation on how to do this. It is not tested in all environments, so bugs may still lurk inside. As usually you are working at your own risk. ***** What's the price of this package Zero. Null. Nichts. Nada. CAPer/CAPpl198/BPF/afpmount are distributed free of charge for any purpose abeit various copyrights apply. Look in the CAPer documentation for more information. You may not sell it, but you can give it away. ***** Shall I put it on the ftp archives Please do not at the moment. As soon I received reports that the package really works in most environments I will do this myself. Conside this release a public beta :-) ***** Will it run on m68k, Sparc, HPPA m68k - yes, definitely. sparc & hppa, most likely - we have to check if the kernel symbols support the BPF but otherwise I see no reason for problems. :-) Please provide feedback, thanks! -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: gt7357a@acmey.gatech.edu (Tp12a) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 15 Jan 1997 23:49:42 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5bjqem$n3@catapult.gatech.edu> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> Rob Barris (rbarris@quicksilver.com) wrote: : Fact is all 68K's offer a unified 32-bit programmer model, for pointers : and integers. True, the original 68000 had a 16-bit external data bus and : only 24 bits of physical address bus, but this is also why we call Pentium : and Pentium Pro "32 bit processors" and not 64 bits: it's commonly accepted : to look at the ALU word width or address space size as the "bitness" of a : processor. I always thought "bit-ness" was a wholly contrived term from marketing-types... It seems to me that the only instance in which "bit-ness" is really significant is on the Intel 80x86 series. I am not aware of any other processor family that sports so many "modes" (8086 real mode, 80286 protected mode, 80386 protected mode, 8086 virtual mode, "Merced" mode?). Calling some piece of code "32-bit" is merely an abbreviation for the horribly long-winded "80386 protected mode." If the ALU word length determined the "bitness" of a processor, then my HP48 pocket calculator is a 64 bit machine, just like a DEC Alpha. If the maximum address space determined "bitness," a Commodore 64 would be a 16-bit machine... With virtual memory, an Intel 80486 would be a 40 bit machine! Go figure... Cheers, Phil : Rob Barris : Quicksilver Software Inc. : rbarris@quicksilver.com : * Opinions expressed not necessarily those of my employer * -- Philip C. Tsao (pronounced 'Philip C. Tsao') Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt7357a gt7357a@prism.gatech.edu http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gt7357a
From: raph@porter.as.utexas.edu (William Raphael Hix) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc Date: 22 Jan 1997 22:06:40 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <5c631g$14f@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <19970121084457374235@pm-lx-2-10.net.ip.pt> Jaime Lares Rebelo Pinto (Jaime.Pinto@ip.pt) wrote: : : I hope that with the UNIX power, and with something well designed on : top of it, there'll be no need for 2 OSs, wich would create more : problems for Apple and users. Look and feel should be configurable in : ways that will please different people, including MacOS users like me, : and Next users. Configuration and the set of extra software, to give : with each computer, must be the way to differenciate options . Probably, : there could be a point in releasing a version wich would require less : resources, but that would probably break the power of the OS, and give : way to lots of incompatibilities and problems, so I think that it's wise : to continue the development of System 7 instead. Apple seems committed to an OS "closer in look and feel to the Mac OS Finder" than to Workspace, though noting "easy support for mulitple user interface paradigms." So interface wise, it sounds like the default will be familiar to Mac users, with at least some NeXT-like customizations. (http://www.macos.apple.com/macos/releases/rhapsody/faq.rhap.html) However, there is one strong reason for releasing a reduced version, cost. Apple will have trouble selling its users an $800 OS, as NeXT has done. Mac customers already scream about $100 OS costs. While the initial targets; enterprise, publishing, multimedia, and technical, are less cost conscious, with Win NT worksation around $250, $200-$300 is as high as Apple can go, even initially. One way around this would be a $100 basic OS with basic functionality, intended for most current Mac users, with an add-on to give it full OpenStep compatibility and/or Unix compatibility for a few hundres more $. : : I believe that things like shells and compatibility are fundamental, : so there there shouldn't be limited implementations or distributions of : them. I hope Apple doesn't use artificial limitations also, like MS did. Fundamental to current NeXT users and developers is not necessarily fundamental to the larger Mac community. Apple will need to make compromises to please as many people as possible. Optional packages are one way to go. I haven't come up with another yet. : I hope they don't use early market response to decide how the : system should be, because then the market response wouldn't be : representative of all potential users, the developers and early adopters : would be overly represented. Unfortunately Apple will be heavily influenced by its critical developers, companies like Adobe and Macromedia who make major apps for major markets like publishing. It is unclear in which direction they will push, since they'll try to guess which way their users will jump. Raph ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- William Raphael Hix Department of Astronomy raph@astro.as.utexas.edu University of Texas Voice: (512) 471-3412 R.L. Moore Hall FAX: (512) 471-6016 Austin TX 78712 WWW: http://tycho.as.utexas.edu/~raph Room 17.210 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701142207.RAA16371@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 23a3d73febfe7a85fc194ec29082925a - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 17:07:12 -0500 Subject: ID4 and Apple (Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps?) Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 23a3d73febfe7a85fc194ec29082925a - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: deniseh@nntp.best.com (Denise Howard) Original Date: 13 Jan 1997 22:36:21 GMT > Yeah, the friend I was with smirked "Good thing the aliens use > TCP/IP!" someone on one of the humor e-lists I'm on sent a '40 things I learned from ID4'... here are some relevant entries... 36. In 10 hours, one man with a Macintosh Laptop can code a virus in C++ that will take down a completely alien computer system. 37. Even though the Mac isn't compatible with most other Earthly operating systems, it can interface with an alien computer. 38. Alien network security is nonexistent. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a NeXTStep|OpenStep web page, email me the URL!]
From: no_spam@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 16 Jan 1997 02:37:46 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> Rob Barris (rbarris@quicksilver.com) wrote: : (Tp12a) wrote: : > Rob Barris (rbarris@quicksilver.com) wrote: : > : Fact is all 68K's offer a unified 32-bit programmer model, for pointers : > : and integers. True, the original 68000 had a 16-bit external data bus and : > : only 24 bits of physical address bus, but this is also why we call Pentium : > : and Pentium Pro "32 bit processors" and not 64 bits: it's commonly accepted : > : to look at the ALU word width or address space size as the "bitness" of a : > : processor. : > : > I always thought "bit-ness" was a wholly contrived term from : > marketing-types... It seems to me that the only instance in which "bit-ness" : > is really significant is on the Intel 80x86 series. I am not aware of any : > other processor family that sports so many "modes" (8086 real mode, 80286 : > protected mode, 80386 protected mode, 8086 virtual mode, "Merced" mode?). : > Calling some piece of code "32-bit" is merely an abbreviation for the : > horribly long-winded "80386 protected mode." : It seems reasonable to consider "bitness" when comparing chips from : different families, here you point out the fact that within the x86 family : that there were and are several sets of ISA and memory addressing models : available. But the terms "16-bit" "32-bit" "64-bit" are still useful, as : long as you know the difference between "64bit address space", "32bit ALU", : and "16bit data bus". : Anyway, I was originally responding to Lance's implication that Motorola : had somehow tried to pull a fast one on people by calling the 68K a 32-bit : processor. I would consider the 386-SX a 32-bit processor, even though it : has a 16-bit data bus, since it has 32-bit ALU, register model, and address : space. I seem to recall that 68000 processor actually had 16 bit ALU's, there were some "32 bit" adds and subtracts which were acoomplished via 2 passes to the 16 bit ALU, so 32 bit operations actually took twice as long. Was my memory faulty or is this indeed the case? : Rob Barris : Quicksilver Software Inc. : rbarris@quicksilver.com : * Opinions expressed not necessarily those of my employer *
From: Alan Oehler <alan.oehler@tencor.com> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.tripoli,comp.sys.next.software,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.frame,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.fonts,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images,comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Subject: Re: Acrobat Question? Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 09:08:53 -0800 Organization: Tencor Instruments Wafer Inspection Div., Tech Pubs Message-ID: <32D52625.78FA@tencor.com> References: <32BA1F0B.7287@mcs.net> <r-o-b-s-t-e-r-2012962036010001@ppp-5200-0537.mtl.total.net> <32BF4679.7E8A@ix.netcom.com> <32CA6AF5.40D3@dgs.dgsys.com> <32ca9679.31095302@news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Craig A. Keefner wrote: > > On Wed, 01 Jan 1997 08:47:33 -0500, Arnold Shore > <ashore@dgs.dgsys.com> wrote: > > >Counter question: Why bother with Acrobat and PDF? > > > >If (big if!) your primary intent is to develop a web site, then products > >pointed towards that capability would be a better solution, MS's > >FrontPage being a good example. > > "my" website includes a major airline which has financial reports > that legal prefers are displayed in one look and one look only. > html cannot approach it. Thus pdf files or java applets (of ms > documents). > > Craig Yeah, that seems to be the main distinction -- if you have documents that must maintain precise formatting, pagination, etc. when delivered online, Acrobat or something similar is definitely the way to go. -Alan
From: ts110@pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the best Web Browser for 3.2 Black? Date: 16 Jan 1997 05:50:11 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5bkfij$av2@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> tralala@mlink.net wrote: : Get OmniWeb v.2.5.b2 (current version) Don't OmniWeb versions 2.0 and above require NS3.3? Tomaz
From: dadler@u.washington.edu (David Adler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: converting .draw files to other formats Date: 16 Jan 1997 05:39:57 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <5bkevd$qm9@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <5bdvi7$qs@coopers.cs.ubc.ca> <5bet7u$ace@news.next.com> In-Reply-To: <5bet7u$ace@news.next.com> On 01/13/97, Mark Bessey wrote: >David Poole writes >> ...so how can I translate .draw files to >> another format that can be edited using some standard drawing package >> (probably on a PC)... [.eps or .tiff is no good as they cannot be >> edited]. >> >> Thanks for any help you can give, >> David >> poole@cs.ubc.ca > >Actually, both EPS and TIFF are *both* editable formats. I'd hate to >think that your book publisher doesn't have a copy of either Photoshop >or Illustrator. Seriously, though, either ImageViewer.app (available on >the usual NeXT archive sites) or OmniImage.app (www.omnigroup.com) can >convert ps files to any number of other formats...So: print, save the PS >to a file, and convert away! > >Hope this helps, > >-Mark >-- >Mark Bessey >NeXT Software, Inc >Software Quality Assurance >-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <-- > If these are really drawings, i.e. vector-based graphics, then, I think, there is a sort of problem. If you import EPS into Illustrator or FreeHand or Canvas or Corel (at least the versions I have used) you get a graphic object, resizable and moveable but not truely editable. There is a possible solution, save as EPS from Draw, open, or copy and paste, in Tailor (IMO one of those killer NeXT apps, it's on the Mac now too) Tailor has "made editable" just about any .ps or .eps file I have thrown at it, allowing full text and graphic element editing. Tailor can then save in Illustrator format for moving to the other "platforms". (I am not financially involved with the folks who make and distribute Tailor just a satisfied customer). David -- -- David Adler, Ph.D. scientist "Science is nothing but trained and organized common sense" T.H.Huxley
From: glenn@nowsoft.com (Tod L. Glenn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: setting dns Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:16:43 -0800 Organization: Europa Communications Inc. [Portland, OR] Message-ID: <glenn-ya02408000R2201971616430001@news.europa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greetings, I am trying to determine how to set the dns address on NeXTstep 3.3. I found where to configure IP address and router. Any help is appreciated. This is a lone NeXT box in a mac and PC shop. ---- Tod L. Glenn Internet Services Administrator Now Software ITG webmaster@nowsoft.com ---- http://www.nowsoft.com ftp://ftp.nowsoft.com listserv@nowsoft.com
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Appletalk on NeXTStep/OpenStep is here Date: 23 Jan 1997 01:52:25 GMT Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC. Message-ID: <5c6g8p$fhk@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5c65n3$fhk@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Cc: frank@this.net In <5c65n3$fhk@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Frank M. Siegert wrote: > [Sorry for the English x-posting to a german newsgroup, but maybe this is of > some interest] > > Howdy! > > I am proud to annouce the public availability of the easy-install binary CAP > (Columbia Appletalk Package) for NeXTStep 3.3/OpenStep 4.x on Intel > processors. It contains everything to turn your NeXTStep system into a > AppleShare (Appletalk native Phase II) file and print server. Additional it > enables you to mount remote AppleShare volumes on your NeXTStep machine and > to print to remote LaserWriters. > Sorry to followup my own posting but due to the overwheming run on the www.this.net site to download this package even in the first few hours I decided to put it up on ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/CAPer.app.V1.I.b.tar.gz and ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/CAPer_V1_README.rtfd.tar.gz Hopefully it will not contain bugs and will work as advertized :). Please use this site for downloading, thanks! -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 23:05:04 -0800 Organization: Quicksilver Software, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <rbarris-ya023280001501972305040001@news.quicksilver.com> References: <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu>, no_spam@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) wrote: > Rob Barris (rbarris@quicksilver.com) wrote: > : Anyway, I was originally responding to Lance's implication that Motorola > : had somehow tried to pull a fast one on people by calling the 68K a 32-bit > : processor. I would consider the 386-SX a 32-bit processor, even though it > : has a 16-bit data bus, since it has 32-bit ALU, register model, and address > : space. > > I seem to recall that 68000 processor actually had 16 bit ALU's, there > were some "32 bit" adds and subtracts which were acoomplished via 2 passes > to the 16 bit ALU, so 32 bit operations actually took twice as long. > Was my memory faulty or is this indeed the case? The original 68000 did indeed have a 16-bit ALU and the behavior of which you speak. This did not change until the 68020 if memory serves. Rob Barris Quicksilver Software Inc. rbarris@quicksilver.com * Opinions expressed not necessarily those of my employer *
From: rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 23:06:58 -0800 Organization: Quicksilver Software, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <rbarris-ya023280001501972306580001@news.quicksilver.com> References: <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu>, no_spam@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) wrote: > I seem to recall that 68000 processor actually had 16 bit ALU's, there > were some "32 bit" adds and subtracts which were acoomplished via 2 passes > to the 16 bit ALU, so 32 bit operations actually took twice as long. > Was my memory faulty or is this indeed the case? Sorry to follow up my own post, hit the send key too fast.. 32 bit operations often took an extra cycle or two, not necessarily "twice as long". For example a reg-reg add might take 4 cycles for the 8 or 16 bit case, or 5 cycles for the 32 bit case due to the extra trip through the ALU. Rob Barris Quicksilver Software Inc. rbarris@quicksilver.com * Opinions expressed not necessarily those of my employer *
From: Allan MacKinnon <allanmac@blueprint.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 20:29:24 -0500 Organization: B L U E P R I N T Message-ID: <32DD8474.13F9@blueprint.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bcske$5ps@news.platinum.com> <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5bedv8$es2@news.platinum.com> <32DBBE9E.1DA3@exnext.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jonathan W. Hendry wrote: > > Gary W. Longsine wrote: > > > In <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Joshua W. Burton wrote: > > > longsine@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) wrote: > > > > What's wrong with matte black, anyway? It's good enough for every > > > cool piece of electronics on the planet _except_ computers, isn't > > it? > > > > I want black, too. > > I wouldn't be surprised if Power Computing could be persuaded > to do a line of black machines. They seem pretty hip. > I like black too, but if it's not done well, it looks like crap (roll the 'r'). How about borrowing some color ideas from SGI? I like their dark 'crimson' color. It's somewhat tasteful. But that's just me. :) ASM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701221523.KAA05222@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: e892b734e107533cb840dae18f3dd19d - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 97 10:22:56 -0500 Subject: Re: GUI for gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz ? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com, deniseh@best.com, shess@one.net References: e892b734e107533cb840dae18f3dd19d - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Original Date: 22 Jan 1997 10:25:29 GMT > A Mac user posted praise for Stuffit for its ability to let users > view the contents of compressed files, and derided tar for it's > lack. But of course, you can see the contents in a shell with > "gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz" > > Is there a GUI NeXT app that does this? Never use an "app" when a service will do! You can do this now, using TickleServices.app, using the Services/Archive/List command, it pipes the output to an Edit.app plain ascii file. What I would like to see is a way to extract single files from a .tar.gz file, which sounds like something TickleServices could do, but I don't know how, maybe I'll try it later. These would also be excellent additions to "Opener.app", an already excellent app in its own right! TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep Solaris, Mail.app question. Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 22:13:42 +0100 Organization: Warty Wolfs Message-ID: <9701152113.AA04611@basil.icce.rug.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.1mach v148) In article <5bdad3$bpe@iese.iese.fhg.de>, Jean-Marc DeBaud wrote: > Just wondering if there is a version of Enhancemail > that works with Solaris OpenStep 1.1 Mail.app? I would be very surprised if it actually existed. A port to OS/Solaris' Mail.app is non-trivial, as EnhanceMail trojan-horses itself in place by posing as a fair number of internal Mail.app classes. I expect the internals of OS/Solaris' Mail.app to be quite different from the NeXT version (OSsified for one). And the functionality EM adds is not necessarily well separated from the Mail.app classes it overrides... (in laymans' terms: it's a hack:-) -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "Any magic sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable __/ _/_/ from a perl script" -- Larry Wall, mangled
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Re: PageChoice Message-ID: <E42ov0.6L3@free.fdn.fr> Sender: news@free.fdn.fr Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant. References: <5b5iot$bft@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <E3x5JD.H2q@free.fdn.fr> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 23:20:59 GMT mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: > In another thread, long ago, I mentioned the existence of an application > called "PageChoice" which, given a PostScript file, will allow you to print > out left or right pages, duplex etc. > > It's old (1992), so currently only runs on NeXT hardware, however given a bit > of encouragement, the author sounds willing to update it (it needs a bit of > polishing) and rerelease it (*)). The cost on this side of the pond will be > around 20 pounds ($US30)... assuming a small market! :-) > > Could anyone who would be interested in this please let me know, and I'll let > him know the market opinion. > > Best wishes, > > mmalc. > > (*) A limited time demo should be available soon -- more details later. > > -- > PSHelper.app is quad fat. It is a GUI wrapper for psselect from the psutils library. FYI here are the psutils description: [November 5, 1992 version of psutils.] ===== The comp.lang.postcript FAQ description follows: ===== psutils is a set of useful PostScript utilities: epsffit, getafm, psbook, psnup, psselect, pstops, and showchar. By Angus Duggan What: Converts-ASCII-to-PostScript, Page-Reordering Status: free Platforms: UNIX Get-From: ftp.dcs.ed.ac.uk (129.215.160.5) in the file pub/ajcd/psutils.tar.Z ===== The official psutils README follows: ===== PostScript Utilities Angus Duggan 7 April 1992 This shar file contains some utilities for manipulating PostScript documents. Page selection and rearrangement are supported, including arrangement into signatures for booklet printing, and page merging for 2up/4up/8up/9up printing. ENVIRONMENT These utilities have been compiled and run on Sun-3 and Sun-4 machines under SunOS 4.1.1 and 4.0.1, and on HP9000/375 machines under HPUX 7.0 FILES The files contained are: -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 1668 Oct 27 18:50 LICENSE -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 643 Apr 7 1992 Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 3167 Oct 27 18:51 README lrwxrwxrwx 1 ajcd 9 Oct 27 18:49 appledict.ps -> md68.0.ps -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 3673 Jul 12 1991 epsffit.c -rwxr-xr-x 1 ajcd 362 Apr 7 1992 fixfmps -rwxr-xr-x 1 ajcd 1329 Jul 17 12:49 fixmacps -rwxr-xr-x 1 ajcd 1165 Jul 16 1991 fixpspps -rwxr-xr-x 1 ajcd 525 Apr 7 1992 fixwpps -rwxr-xr-x 1 ajcd 4706 Sep 3 1991 getafm -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 31021 Oct 27 18:48 md68.0.ps -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 35328 Oct 27 18:48 md71.0.ps -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 1066 Jul 12 1991 psbook.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 1990 Jul 12 1991 psbook.c -rwxr-xr-x 1 ajcd 2057 Jul 16 11:06 psnup -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 2152 Sep 5 1991 psnup.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 1509 Jul 12 1991 psselect.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 4621 Jul 12 1991 psselect.c -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 3209 Mar 23 1992 pstops.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 9416 Apr 7 1992 pstops.c -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 5286 Oct 27 18:31 psutil.c -rw-r--r-- 1 ajcd 682 Sep 5 1991 psutil.h -rwxr-xr-x 1 ajcd 2552 Sep 5 1991 showchar PROGRAMS psbook rearranges pages into signatures psselect selects pages and page ranges pstops performs general page rearrangement and selection psnup uses pstops to merge multiple pages per sheet epsffit fits an EPSF file to a given bounding box psselect in modeled after Chris Torek's dviselect program, and psbook is modeled after Tom Rokicki's dvidvi program. psbook is modeled on my own dvibook program, which borrows heavily from Chris Torek's dviselect. SCRIPTS getafm (sh) outputs PostScript to retrieve AFM file from printer showchar (sh) outputs PostScript to draw a character with metric info fixfmps (perl) filter to fix framemaker documents so that psselect etc. work fixwpps (perl) filter to fix WordPerfect documents so that psselect etc. work fixmacps (perl) filter to fix Macintosh documents with saner version of md fixpspps (perl) filter to fix PSPrint PostScript so that psselect etc. work BUGS The utilities don't check for PS-Adobe-?.? conformance; they assume documents conform. Utilities need an extra save/restore around whole document on a SPARCPrinter with NeWSPrint 1.0, because of bugs in the xnews server. Bug fixes and suggestions to ajcd@dcs.ed.ac.uk -- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 (0)1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 (0)1 48 55 09 90 GSM: 33 (0)6 60 46 36 83
From: alvin@neander.com (Alvin Jee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: new mail bundle and NeXT employee's web pages Date: 17 Jan 1997 09:22:40 GMT Organization: Zoom.Com Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <5bngd0$pb0@stealth.romoidoy.com> References: <199701160453.UAA20139@PEAK.ORG> Wow! > hey y'all, someone told me about a new bundle for Mail.app at > > http://www.next.com/~eseymour > > It is called Colorizer, and looks rather cool if you have a color > machine, which I don't. That is a neat bundle. It almost makes Mail.app a threaded e-mail reader. I guess it wouldn't take too much effort to make a thread bundle for Mail.app after all.. (Oh yeah, the color and arrow thingys are neat, too!) -- Alvin Jee alvin@neander.com NeXTMail gleefully accepted! Using the Internet since 1984 http://www.neander.com/
From: hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP for Nextstep? Date: 22 Jan 1997 17:45:40 GMT Organization: Individual - France Message-ID: <5c5jo4$39i@precipice.fdn.fr> References: <5c36sd$45e@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <5c38pt$t3v@shelob.afs.com> >Guenther Bauer writes > What is the best DTP program available for Nextstep under HP PA RISC? > All I could find was Framemaker, which is rather weak. All other > programs aren't compiled for PA RISC as far as I know. If you prefer quality over price, take a look at OneVision (http://www.onevision.de/) There's a demo on the peanuts archive. You can also get a 1 month licence (info@onevision.de) Hugues. -------------------------------------------------------------------- hugues@precipice.fdn.fr - French, English, Italian and a few JP ->OK ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: 16 Jan 1997 10:46:59 GMT Organization: Squonk-Net, Loudonville, NY 12211 Message-ID: <5bl0v3$rm5@duke.squonk.net> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <slrn5dqdku.lt8.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) wrote: > Look at it this way. The Mac user interface was designed for > users without the savvy to use a more complicated computer: the > mouse has only one button because they wanted to avoid the > possibility of the user pressing the wrong button. For those who haven't worked with NeXTSTEP, I would like to point out the following: NeXTSTEP supports a two-button mouse. In it's default setting, both buttons do the *exact* same thing. If you change a preference setting, then one of the two buttons will cause the application's menus to pop up at the current cursor location. You, the user, get to set which button causes this. So, NeXTSTEP has two buttons, one of which would be an "action" button, and the other is a "menu" or "information" button. This is not like X, where you have three buttons and each application makes up it's own mind as to what actions are triggered by which button... --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: ici@giocoso.osk.threewebnet.or.jp (Toshinao Ishii) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does NOTEBOOK supports OPENSTEP ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 22 Jan 1997 16:38:07 GMT Organization: 3Web internet service Message-ID: <ICI.97Jan23013807@giocoso.osk.threewebnet.or.jp> Hi. According to the info from Canon (http://www.cnds.canon.co.jp), NoteBook.app 1.2J does not work well on OPENSTEP 4.1J. This is my disappointment becuse I like the software very mutch. Does someone know NoteBook is running on OPENSTEP for Intel ? Japanese support is not necessary. Does someone know whether there is plan of further development of NoteBook ? -=-=-=-=-=-=-= Toshinao Ishii email: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp (NeXTMAIL/MIME Welcome)
From: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca (Seamus Dunne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP! User account keeps quitting... Date: 23 Jan 1997 07:46:40 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5c7510$mdk$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Keywords: User account [me] will not start HELP! Something's gone awry on my 25 Mhz/040 Cube running NS 3.3; it's been configured for a longtime now as a single user, stand-alone machine, no network: PROBLEM: When I login as user, the usual, expected things happen: dock appears Desktop seems to build, THEN the color wheel (or beach ball, if you prefer) spins for a few seconds and THEN the machine quits, reverting back to the login box-----again and again. However, if I login as root everything is OK. I've created yet another user account, no problems, then logged out and tried logging in as the new user, but to no avail. Same story as the 1st user. Also I've inspected the all of the "dot-files (like .NeXT). Nothing seems to be out of order. Tried changing their names temporarily (to .33Appinfo from .Appinfo, for example), [after making a copy of these, for safety reasons]. Still no dice. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance... answer here or my email: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca Seamus -- If I can't die happily-- I'd rather not die at all. Anon
From: sroth@netrover.com (Steven Roth) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can eat shit Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:33:35 -0500 Organization: Netrover Distribution: inet Message-ID: <sroth-1501971333350001@ascend9.netrover.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <judas.0mwa@tomtec.abg.sub.org> <carol1-0701972248550001@17.219.103.211> <5b11c5$rmp@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <AEFB9EC9-369E0@207.158.13.84> <5b7km0$o68@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> <32d7fc3d.82279872@client.sw.news.psi.net> <5ba00l$321@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> <32da8f2b.251026236@client.sw.news.psi.net> <1997011409420622019@ts3u-4.cc.umanitoba.ca> <5bicof$8hl@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> In article <5bicof$8hl@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>, t21@ix.netcom.com (Stephan Schaem) wrote: >In article <1997011409420622019@ts3u-4.cc.umanitoba.ca>, umbeggs@cc.umanitoba.ca (Gerry Beggs) wrote: >>Joshua T. McKee <jmckee@miaco.com> wrote: >> >>> I realize that the PPro is not a great design, but for a poor design, >>> it is competing very well. I read from DEC's home page that DEC >>> believes a 300MHz PPro will keep pace with their 433MHz 21164 (this is >>> recalled from memory from a few weeks ago, you may wish to verify it). >>> The question is, can Intel get the PPro to 300MHz? >> >>I find this hard to believe. since the PPC 604 is faster than the PPro >>at the same clock speed, and the Alpha is faster than the 604. >> > > ppro 200mhz 8.1 specint95 , ppc 604e 200mhz 7.41 > 6.75 specfp95, ppc 604e 200mhz 6.72 > > An alpha 21164 300mhz get 7.3 specint95. > > a 195mhz R10000 is faster then any of the above, and Mips > cpu can be very cheap for low end system. > > What number did you base your assumption on? > > Stephan From Byte magazine: "It takes two 200Mhz Pentium Pros to equal one 200Mhz PowerPC 604e processor." - results from Byte Benchmarks testing. -- Steven Roth sroth@netrover.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: frank@OneVision.de (Frank Pohl) Subject: Re: DTP for Nextstep? Message-ID: <E4GBwJ.7Ez@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 08:07:31 GMT In comp.sys.next.software article <19970122040201.XAA14968@ladder01.news.aol.com> Will Adams wrote: > Isn't OneVision Quad-fat? There's an unofficial web site on this in Europe > somewhere--anyone know if the manufacturer has an official web or ftp > site? There's a book on this, no? DigiScript is Quad-fat Web site: http://www.OneVision.de > DigiScipt for PDF-, PS- and EPS-editing > Book (engl.) with CD (but only with demo-license for the software): > DigiScript > edits digital manuscripts), Springer-Verlag, Berlin, ISBN 3-540-61643-8, > 390, pp. 500 figs. in color > > www.amazon.com had the above book in their listing, but it wasn't > available as of yet--anyone know how limited the demo is? Most "Save"-functions locked. > Or how much it > costs to license DigiScript? It s not cheap for "some-Times-DTP"-Users, but it has a good price for professionells. > I'm surprised by the characterization of FrameMaker as weak--inflexible > perhaps if one needs to do advertising work... The latest word: "The German OneVision company has been raising eyebrows with its product for Next, which may be the most versatile software product for publishing on any platform. Among its functions are page layout, graphics manipulation and imposition ...", The Seybold Report on Publishing Systems, Volume 26, Number 8. Frank
From: Mark Trombino <mtrombin@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTime Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 01:03:42 -0800 Organization: Egg Head Billy Productions Message-ID: <32E7296E.AC1@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried looking up NeXTime on NeXTAnswer with no luck. I'm hoping someone out there can help me. Is NeXTime still available? Where can I get it? How much does it cost? Does it support QuickTime movies like I've heard? Thanks in advance!
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@hc.ti.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:37:40 -0600 Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. Message-ID: <32DE4B44.670F@hc.ti.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <E42oHA.7Ix@onevision.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > PPP multilink > maybe someone should check if this already on the wishlist of the "free" > PPP? Probably not as there is not much of a demand. There are other things that will take priority. Specifically, kernel based demand dial, better installation app, and tracking down that pesky "connect" panic. Course, things could change... ;). I'm also looking at ISDN and ADSL drivers for those who are interested... Requests can be made at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ (in the bug report/feedback section). Now is the time as I'm ramping up to dig back into PPP soon... - Steve -- Stephen J. Perkins Tel. +1(972)995-0029, Fax +1(972)995-6194, e-mail: perkins@ti.com Texas Instruments, P.O. Box 655474, MS 446, Dallas, TX 75265
From: mmunz@inconnect.com (Mark Munz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: 23 Jan 1997 04:54:03 GMT Organization: Puppy Dog Software Message-ID: <mmunz-2201972153190001@slc-dial-50.inconnect.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bcske$5ps@news.platinum.com> <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5bedv8$es2@news.platinum.com> <32DBBE9E.1DA3@exnext.com> <32DC157E.1730@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> <E47p6M.2CC@micmac.com> In article <E47p6M.2CC@micmac.com>, mic@micmac.com wrote: >Umax look better and since they are also doing scanners... Beware, the SL900's cute door is nothing but a pain in the rear. I ended up pulling it off, since it gets in the way with the CD-ROM drive and floppy drive. Mark Munz
From: christw@lexis-nexis.com (Christopher C. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:26:10 GMT Organization: LEXIS-NEXIS, Dayton OH Message-ID: <5blkr2$sdm@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> References: <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> <rbarris-ya023280001501972305040001@news.quicksilver.com> In article <rbarris-ya023280001501972305040001@news.quicksilver.com>, rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) writes: |> In article <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu>, no_spam@Glue.umd.edu |> (David T. Wang) wrote: |> > Rob Barris (rbarris@quicksilver.com) wrote: |> > : Anyway, I was originally responding to Lance's implication |> > : that Motorola had somehow tried to pull a fast one on people by |> > : calling the 68K a 32-bit processor. I would consider the |> > : 386-SX a 32-bit processor, even though it has a 16-bit data |> > : bus, since it has 32-bit ALU, register model, and address |> > : space. |> > I seem to recall that 68000 processor actually had 16 bit ALU's, |> > there were some "32 bit" adds and subtracts which were |> > acoomplished via 2 passes to the 16 bit ALU, so 32 bit operations |> > actually took twice as long. Was my memory faulty or is this |> > indeed the case? |> The original 68000 did indeed have a 16-bit ALU and the behavior |> of which you speak. This did not change until the 68020 if memory |> serves. On the other hand, this behavior was invisible to the machine code. It's just an implementation detail. Replace the microcode and 16-bit ALU with a 32-bit ALU. Performance goes up on all your software. A lot like increasing the clock speed. Chris -- Speaking only for myself, of course. Chris Wood christw@lexis-nexis.com cats@CFAnet.com
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What is the best Web Browser for 3.2 Black? Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:39:00 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5bllj4$163s@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5bkfij$av2@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <5bkfij$av2@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> On 01/15/97, Tomaz Slivnik wrote: >Don't OmniWeb versions 2.0 and above require NS3.3? Nope, 2.5 runs fine on 3.2 machines with the FoundationUserPatch package installed. See a NeXTAnswers Web server near you for your free copy. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: "Håkan Jonsson" <hajons@combitech.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT_PPP Homepage unreachable Date: 23 Jan 1997 10:54:03 GMT Organization: Dell Computer Corporation Message-ID: <01bc091c$21c19400$1f504b92@P080031.software.combitech.se> Hi! I have been trying to reach the NeXT_PPP homepage and FAQ at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/NeXT_PPP_FAQ.html but without luck. Does anyone know if it has moved or where I can get that FAQ elsewhere? Yours, Håkan Jonsson
From: m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Formatting JAZ-Disks ? Date: 23 Jan 1997 12:48:50 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Message-ID: <5c7mni$r5j@hagen.amg.de> Hi there, does anyone know, how to format a JAZ Disc (IOMEGA) under NEXTSTEP 3.3 ?? Thanks, Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de)
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 16 Jan 97 11:03:54 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: world Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan16110354@howard.one.net> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar> <nervous-ya02408000R0301970202130001@news.netrover.com> <5ajjq7$bu@news.platinum.com> <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net> <MPG.d45ba729c0df226989681@news.xmission.com> <5bhmfb$rb4@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> In-reply-to: aisbell@ix.netcom.com's message of 15 Jan 1997 04:29:31 GMT In article <5bhmfb$rb4@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com>, aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) wrote: > In article <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net>, > gmgraves@earthlink.net spouts forth... > > Also the apps available for NeXT at this point are completely > > irrelevant. When the Mac system is NeXT, new versions of Mac > They are NOT irrelevant. Apple has said that developers can use > today's OpenStep to develop Rhapsody applications. So basically, > today's NEXTSTEP applications are really the first Rhapsody > applications. Well, this probably isn't quite true. I doubt that Apple will port the NEXTSTEP shared libraries necessary to run NEXTSTEP apps. Today's OPENSTEP apps may be the first Rhapsody apps, so we need to get busy converting NEXTSTEP apps to OPENSTEP. Beyond which, since NeXT apps available today don't have PPC in their Mach-O, it's a moot point. They can port the shared libraries all they want, but unless they put it in an emulation box (say, a _68k_ emulation box), it doesn't do much good at all. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@NO.SPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LaTeX2e for NeXT black hardware Date: 23 Jan 1997 13:18:17 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5c7oep$dtd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5bpk75$2g6@netnews.upenn.edu> kazdan@hans.math.upenn.edu (Jerry L. Kazdan) wrote: > >Is there a reasonably current version of TeX with LaTeX 2e for NeXT >(black) hardware running NeXTSTEP 3.2 (or 3.3)? (Probably a FAQ) This has been on my "To Do" list for a very long time (and given the workload I curently have, it'll remain there for quite some time :-). The most tricky part of LaTeX2html is the conversion of Postscript to inlined Gifs, which requires GhostScript and a bunch of PPM routines. Using eps2tiff (or epstotiff, I keep forgetting. The one that generates GIFs, does antialiasing and all that) it should be simple to build a NEXTSTEP port that blows every Sun installation out of the water, and does not require installing GhostScript first. Since the software is written in Perl, it is highly portable, one just needs to replace the part where the inlines are generated. Any volunteers? :-) Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: brk and sbrk Date: 23 Jan 1997 13:41:51 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <5c7pr0$4e6@crcnis3.unl.edu> Keywords: brk, sbrk I'm involved in a software porting venture... the software at hand uses the functions brk and sbrk. The NEXTSTEP man pages say these functions are not supported. Are there any other functions available to provide similar functionality? ____ Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: dynamic libraries Date: 16 Jan 97 11:02:22 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan16110222@howard.one.net> References: <01bc0301$291dca00$b4ac3895@ken.suite.com> In-reply-to: "Kenneth R. Fleming"'s message of 15 Jan 1997 16:21:27 GMT In article <01bc0301$291dca00$b4ac3895@ken.suite.com>, "Kenneth R. Fleming" <ken@suite.com> writes: We are attempting to use a few global variables within a dynamic library libtool doesn't like it. We get the error "common symbols not allowed in dynamic libraries" We can find no way to scope the variables to just within the library. Does anyone have any suggestions? You could put the variables as statics, with accessor functions, hidden behind macros: barf.h: #define myGlobal getMyGlobal() int getMyGlobal( void); barf.c: static int __myGlobal=someValue; int getMyGlobal( void) { return __myGlobal; } Hacky, sure, but it does the job, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: no_spam@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:36:09 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5blou9$ia8@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> Christopher C. Wood (christw@lexis-nexis.com) wrote: : On the other hand, this behavior was invisible to the machine code. : It's just an implementation detail. Replace the microcode and 16-bit : ALU with a 32-bit ALU. Performance goes up on all your software. A : lot like increasing the clock speed. Ofcourse, but this was one of the criteria which Mr Barris was using to determine the "bitness" of a processor, and I was simply pointing out that 68000 processors had 16 bit data paths, and 16 bit ALUs, Even though it had 32 bit registers, convention was that it was referred to as a 16 bit processor. : Chris : -- : Speaking only for myself, of course. : Chris Wood christw@lexis-nexis.com cats@CFAnet.com
From: Murali Boyapati <mboyapat@bdm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can we convert WatchMe to JPEG/MPEG/Video Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:48:55 -0800 Organization: BDM Federal, Inc., Skyline, VA Message-ID: <32E68B47.3D9F@bdm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can someone tell us the best way to create a demo of software developed using NextStep, that can be viewed in MS Windows? We have looked at the WatchMe software, however, we haven't figured out how to port the WatchMe demo to MS Windows. We are hoping that there may be a way to convert WatchMe files (recorded in the NeXT platform) to JPEG or MPEG. Can someone confirm this. WatchMe folks have not replied to us so far. Finally is there any other alternative to WatchMe that may be suitable to create a video demo (on NEXT) that can subsequently be viewable in MS Windows3.11. Can anyone offer any suggestions?
From: Dave Johnston <djohnsto@imma.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Old Apps and new OS Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:29:15 -0500 Organization: IMMA Inc. Message-ID: <32E775BB.1186@imma.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a few questions about the differences between 3.0 and 3.2, and saving some applications. I am new to NeXT, and a bit timid about my lovely "new" computer First off, the person who previously owned my slab has removed many of the apps (or parts of them) from the machine without using the installer. I know that the "empty" archives are still in the /NeXtLibrary/Reciepts directory but it says they are installed and of course cannot find some of the files to compress them again. In some instances the apps are still on the machine (and working) but have been moved around and/or some of the app's files (as listed in the log window of installer)have been deleted. I don't really want to lose the apps, but I think I would like to wipe the disk and start from scratch. Unfortunately, I got the machine without ANY software on disk or CDROM and cannot merely reinstall them after a refit. Can I ftp the application files to another machine (including all remaining associated files), reformat the disk and upgrade the OS (3.0 to 3.2), and expect the apps to work after I ftp the files back? Some of the apps that I want to keep are: Lotus Improv AppSoft Draw 9sp?) Wordperfect Thanks in advance for your help Cheers Dave
From: jlewin@whatnext.syr.edu (Jacques Lewin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Real Audio Date: 23 Jan 1997 16:57:07 GMT Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY (USA) Message-ID: <5c8593$rql@newstand.syr.edu> Is there a version of the real audio app for Next? ( So I can liosten to National Public Radio stuff?)
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT_PPP Homepage unreachable Date: 23 Jan 97 12:14:20 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF0D069F-B0694@207.147.51.207> References: <01bc091c$21c19400$1f504b92@P080031.software.combitech.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Jan 23, 1997 5:54 AM, Håkan Jonsson <mailto:hajons@combitech.se> wrote: > I have been trying to reach the NeXT_PPP homepage and FAQ at > http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/NeXT_PPP_FAQ.html but without > luck. I had no problem connecting to it. You might want to try again. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: embuck@palmer.cca.rockwell.com (Erik M. Buck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: killer apps for Apple/NeXT Date: 16 Jan 1997 01:31:25 GMT Organization: Rockwell Avionics - Collins Message-ID: <5bk0dd$jnq@castor.cca.rockwell.com> References: <32DD473F.334E@worldnet.att.net> Cc: ziziz@worldnet.att.net In <32DD473F.334E@worldnet.att.net> zizi zhao wrote: > Dean Hall is looking for killer apps for Apple/NeXT OS. He says: > "So far > most of the stories have been about > Apple , I would really like to know > about how the deal affects NeXT > developers. Does anyone have a > killer app in the works? What about > game developers? " > in his webpage http://members.tripod.com/~dehall/nextstep.html One of the companies I contract for may just have the "killer app". Imagine building first class OpenStep objects (especially highly graphical animating ones) with no code at all. This thing could put Visual Basic out of the picture and or be a great way to build Visual Basic component ware. My company is in fact working on a high end game using all of the latest greatest NeXT technology. Sorry I can not give details. P.S. Renderman was already available for Mac
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Update: Appletalk on NeXTStep/OpenStep is here Date: 23 Jan 1997 16:39:10 GMT Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC. Message-ID: <5c847e$j8n@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5c65n3$fhk@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5c6g8p$fhk@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Cc: frank@this.net As usually some little quirks has entered the first public release. 1. If you startup CAP NetInfoManager stops working (it can't be started anymore and hangs). This is caused by the download of the bpf kernel server. Netinfo itself continue to work as far as I can tell and the NetInfo command line tools (nidump, niload, niutil), NFSManager and PrintManager works too. I am about to investigate this strange behaviour. Maybe anyone from NeXT has an idea what could be the problem? As a quick fix you should use the NetInfoManager only when CAP is switched off AND the bpf is unloaded. To unload the bpf manually just issue a /usr/local/etc/bpf_unload in a shell after stopping the cap processes or add the following lines to the /usr/local/cap/kill-cap-server script sleep 5; /usr/local/etc/bpf_unload (the 'sleep 5' is to give the cap processes some time to die gracefully) 2. The documentation how to increase your kernel buffers is in the bpf source package in the app wrapper. 3. The information about the 'cap.printer' file format is in the papif manpage. Sorry for any inconvenience, hopefully the problems are resolved in the next release. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (Guenther Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP for Nextstep? Date: 23 Jan 1997 16:35:04 GMT Organization: University of Economics and Business Administration, Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <5c83vo$mi9@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> References: <5c38pt$t3v@shelob.afs.com> <19970122040201.XAA14968@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams (willadams@aol.com) wrote: : I'm surprised by the characterization of FrameMaker as weak--inflexible : perhaps if one needs to do advertising work... It simple doesn't suit my needs. I didn't find a way to lay one graphic above another one in a transparent way, or to let a text float left and right around a graphic. The Online Help is ridiculous and and it is annoying to convert every piece of graphic into TIFF. I just need a program with more possibilities of graphical manipulation, FrameMaker isnt't the one for such things. Guenther
From: Randall Dean <rwd@cronald.osf.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.mach Subject: Re: OS Componenets of OpenStep for Mach Date: 23 Jan 1997 12:35:31 -0500 Organization: Open Software Foundation Message-ID: <yu2lo9k70rg.fsf@cronald.osf.org> References: <5bhkt2$t78@manuel.ocs.mq.edu.au> <E421ww.2CE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: I believe they use Mach 2.0 and NOT 2.5. > > In article <5bhkt2$t78@manuel.ocs.mq.edu.au>, > Jon Tidswell <jont@mri.mq.edu.au> wrote: > >[ Note Cross posts ] > > > >Ive failed to find any concrete details about which version of Mach, > >NeXT is using. > > NeXTSTEP and OPENSTEP/Mach use a 2.5 kernel with NeXT extensions (I don't > remember exactly what those are at the moment...) > > -- > David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca > Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ > University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer > Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual -- Randall W. Dean r.dean@opengroup.org The Open Group Research Institute http://www.opengroup.org/~rwd 11 Cambridge Center (617) 621-7310 Cambridge, MA 02142 FAX: (617) 621-8696
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LaTeX2e for NeXT black hardware Date: 23 Jan 1997 19:14:21 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <5c8dad$9c8@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5bpk75$2g6@netnews.upenn.edu> Jerry L. Kazdan (kazdan@hans.math.upenn.edu) wrote: : : Is there a reasonably current version of TeX with LaTeX 2e for NeXT : (black) hardware running NeXTSTEP 3.2 (or 3.3)? (Probably a FAQ) Yes. What about it? teTeX distribution runs on NeXT as well (and I am using it). Visit any CTAN node (ftp.cdrom.com mirrors CTAN in North America, ftp.shsu.edu is out of the picture). The only "extra" piece you need is TeXview which understands kpathsea searches through a hierarchical directory structures. Look in contrib/next of teTeX distribution. It is probably the easiest just to install teTeX from scratch to totally replace your old installation. Read instructions first. Michal
From: glenn@nowsoft.com (Tod L. Glenn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Newbie Help Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:36:16 -0800 Organization: Europa Communications Inc. [Portland, OR] Message-ID: <glenn-ya02408000R1601970936160001@news.europa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greetings, I recently aquired a copy of NeXTstep 3.3 for Intel and NeXT. I'd Like to install on an intel box, but it appears that the floppy is for NeXT computers. Any idea how I can obtain and Intel installer floppy for for 3.3? Thanks ---- Tod L. Glenn Internet Services Administrator Now Software ITG webmaster@nowsoft.com ---- http://www.nowsoft.com ftp://ftp.nowsoft.com listserv@nowsoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.mach From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: OS Components of OpenStep for Mach Message-ID: <cdoutyE4HApt.32J@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <5bhkt2$t78@manuel.ocs.mq.edu.au> <E421ww.2CE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <yu2lo9k70rg.fsf@cronald.osf.org> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 20:39:29 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom21.netcom.com In article <yu2lo9k70rg.fsf@cronald.osf.org>, Randall Dean <rwd@cronald.osf.org> wrote: >dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > >I believe they use Mach 2.0 and NOT 2.5. Just to verify, I looked at my copy of _NeXTSTEP Operating System Software_ (ISBN 0-201-63252-7, printed by Addison-Wesley) In the "Mach Concepts" chapter they state, "The NeXT Mach operating system is a port of CMU Relase 2.0, with additional features from both NeXT and later versions of CMU Mach." NeXT added the "Bootstrap Server" (?) and Loadable Kernel Servers. CMU Mach 2.5 contributed scheduling and some messaging details. They go on to say that Mach uses a 4.3BSD compatability layer. We know that NeXT added some 4.4BSD networking features for NS3.3 and above. I suppose that the people who know more about the new Mach kernel NeXT intended for NS4.0 are still bound by non-disclosure agreements. Too bad, I'd like to know more. Whatever kernel Apple chooses for Rhapsody, I hope it has functionality like the Loadable Kernel Server in NS right now. I figure that the ability to add functions at runtime is a huge step forward over the traditional Unix "relink the kernel and reboot" every time you want to change something, like add a device driver. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GUI for gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz ? Date: 23 Jan 1997 20:50:43 GMT Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands Message-ID: <5c8iv3$r06@highway.leidenuniv.nl> References: e892b734e107533cb840dae18f3dd19d - <199701221523.KAA05222@nerc.com> A couple of years ago, there was a workspace bundle for sale which would let you treat tar archives as directories. If my rusty memory serves me correctly, it was a commercial prooduct, and I do not have a clue what happended to it. -- Geert Jan van Oldenborgh work: oldenbor@knmi.nl private: gj@rulil0.LeidenUniv.nl (for the time being) web: http://rulgm4.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html (-""-) 's lack. >> But of course, you >> >> can see the contents in a shell with >> "gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz" >> >> Is there a GUI NeXT app that does this? > >Not exactly, although Installer.app or Opener.app are pretty close and >could easily be modified to support that functionality. > Actually, there are/were several apps that managed Tar files enTar is one, but there have been several others. Check the peak archive. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: Eelco Houwink <Eelco_Houwink@spidernet.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 23 Jan 1997 00:15:08 GMT Organization: Spider Message-ID: <32E6AD9A.26C1@spidernet.nl> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar> <nervous-ya02408000R0301970202130001@news.netrover.com> <5ajjq7$bu@news.platinum.com> <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net> <trubane-1501970128280001@den1-2-17.dialup.unt.edu> <maury-1501971113270001@199.166.204.230> <E459zx.4uv@AWT.NL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I wonder if it is a good strategy. Making this an option will be good on the > short term (which is important because of survival) because it will make the > transition from the Mac GUI smooth. But in the long term, it will keep people > hanging at that UI because "that's the standard". Especially companies will > not want to invest in using a new GUI if they see it as 'nonstandard'. So > that strategy will introduce a lot of inertia. @ The appearance manager, when implemented according to OS8 directions, should offer the look and feel of OS7, NextStep, W95 and X-windows GUIs. This way, a user switching to AppleOS will retain the environment that suits him best. Eelco Houwink
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Update: Appletalk on NeXTStep/OpenStep is here Date: 23 Jan 1997 19:09:44 GMT Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC. Message-ID: <5c8d1o$jks@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5c65n3$fhk@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5c6g8p$fhk@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Cc: frank@this.net I have now resolved the problem of the NetInfoManager start hangs. It looks like NetInfoManager makes a 'gethostbyaddr' on startup to set the hostname in the window title. ('local @ hostname') As soon as the BerkleyPacketFilter LKS is loaded NetInfoManager calls 'gethostbyaddr' not with the real IP address of the host but with the IP 0.0.0.0. This triggers a nameserver lookup and the machine hangs. As a quick fix I am thinking about entering a 'dummy' host with the 0.0.0.0 IP in the local host database using HostManager or nidump/niload. I hope NetInfoManager only needs the hostname for its window title, so it would not matter much if the name comes up wrong (Can someone at NeXT please confirm this?). Can anyone tell me if this workaround may have any negative side effects? As far my debugging shows NetInfo itself is not affected by BPF only NetInfoManager is. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: "Kevin" <kevin.c7@ukonline.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Your views on Software Piracy Date: 23 Jan 1997 19:57:43 GMT Organization: [posted via] UK Online Ltd Message-ID: <01bc0967$eba3e700$c87106c2@kevin.c7> I am doing an investigation on Computer Crime. Could you help me by giving your own views on Software Piracy. Problems: What are the problems about software piracy? Attitudes: Why do people pirate software? Solutions: What has been done about Computer Crime and any prevention to it? Thank you. PS. If you are replying could you send by email please.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: My Terminal Services don't show up! Date: 23 Jan 1997 21:42:54 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5c8m0u$afh@news.digifix.com> I've noticed that since moving to OS 4.1 I don't seem to be able to get my Terminal Services to work from Terminal.app anymore. The only one that I'm really up in arms about is "Open New Terminal here.." I've runn make_services with progress on, but its not even touching Terminal.. Where should i be saving my terminal.srvcs? -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: brk and sbrk Date: 23 Jan 97 15:09:37 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: world Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan23150937@slave.one.net> References: <5c7pr0$4e6@crcnis3.unl.edu> In-reply-to: rdieter@math.unl.edu's message of 23 Jan 1997 13:41:51 GMT In article <5c7pr0$4e6@crcnis3.unl.edu>, rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) writes: I'm involved in a software porting venture... the software at hand uses the functions brk and sbrk. The NEXTSTEP man pages say these functions are not supported. Are there any other functions available to provide similar functionality? sbrk()/brk() are indeed there, though. Just not supported. I'd try them, first. Unfortunately, I don't know what the interface is, perhaps it'll be fine to snarf prototypes from another platform. [Aha, just a second ... int brk( void *end); void *sbrk( int incr);] If that's distasteful, you could probably emulate them to a great degree. I've never used brk()/sbrk(), but here goes (this code has never been compiled - don't look at me!): // 40M good enough? This isn't the value _actually_ allocated, // it's the amount of zerofill memory desired. You can run it // right off the scale if you want. It will wreak havoc with // your VSIZE in ps(1), of course. #define MaxSize (40*1024*1024) static void *__endCode=NULL; /* The "end" of code space. */ static void *__endData; /* The "end" of data space. */ // Allocate a MaxSize area "between" the end of code and the // stack. It's not really there, it just sounds like it is. // Returns the "end of code" pointer, which I think most // brk()/sbrk() users need. void *init_sbrk( void) { if( __endCode!=NULL) { return __endCode; } if( vm_allocate( task_self(), &__endCode, MaxSize, TRUE)!=KERN_SUCCESS) { errno=ENOMEM; return NULL; } // Mark the pages protected so you can't go in and screw // with them. vm_protect( task_self(), __endCode, MaxSize, FALSE, VM_PROT_NONE); vm_inherit( task_self(), __endCode, MaxSize, VM_INHERIT_COPY); __endData=__endCode; return __endCode; } // If newEnd is in range, let it go through. Everything between // __endCode and __endData is marked read/write, everything // paste __endData is marked free. int emu_brk( void *newEnd) { if( __endCode<newEnd && newEnd<__endCode+MaxSize) { void *align; __endData=newEnd; align=__endData; align=(((unsigned)align+vm_page_size-1)/vm_page_size)*vm_page_size; vm_protect( task_self(), __endCode, align-__endCode, FALSE, VM_PROT_WRITE); // The following three lines probably need error // handling, but I'm not going to do it. The theory, // here, is that you deallocate the pages (throwing // them back into the system's pool), reallocate them // as zerofill pages, and set the protection to allow // no access. The problem is, what if it can't allocate // the pages in the same place? It _should_ work, so // long as another thread in this process didn't come // in meanwhile and allocate something in there. // vm_deactivate() would be alright, except that it // doesn't actually free the pages, so it's not very // close to the intent of brk(). vm_deallocate( task_self(), align, MaxSize-(align-__endCode)); vm_allocate( task_self(), align, MaxSize-(align-__endCode), FALSE); vm_protect( task_self(), align, MaxSize-(align-__endCode), FALSE, VM_PROT_NONE); vm_inherit( task_self(), align, MaxSize-(align-__endCode), VM_INHERIT_COPY); return 0; } errno=ENOMEM; return -1; } void *emu_sbrk( int increment) { void *prevEnd=__endData; if( emu_brk( prevEnd+increment)==-1) { return NULL; } return prevEnd; } Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
From: ikouts@adonis.clnsnet.ariadne-t.gr (Ioannis Koutselas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help With Slip/PPP on NS2.1 Date: 23 Jan 1997 22:05:57 GMT Organization: National Technical University of Athens, Greece Message-ID: <5c8nc5$ajq@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr> Dear Netters, I would like some help on setting up ppp and or Slip on a pizza box running 2.1. Is it something that can be accomplished ? Following the demo by SLIP of Mamakos I get to a system that doesn't give me login prompt. PPP (the new ones) cannot be compiled unless I look at the source code. Any help. Thank you in advance. Please mail me the package if you have one. Ioannis ------- ( an object farmer)!
Message-ID: <32E796ED.65CB@lhep.unibe.ch> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:50:53 +0100 From: Juerg Beringer <beringer@lhep.unibe.ch> Organization: Laboratory for High Energy Physics, University of Bern MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software CC: beringer@lhep.unibe.ch Subject: Access to NS/Intel boot time options Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to access within the rc startup scripts the options entered at the NeXTStep (V3.3) boot prompt of an Intel machine? I am using e.g. config=SCSI at the boot prompt to load the device drivers according to a table SCSI.table (in /usr/Devices/System.config) instead of the standard Instance0 table. For different reasons I'd like to know in the startup scripts which options (if any) were selected. Thanks for any hints! Juerg Beringer E-mail: beringer@lhep.unibe.ch
From: BELA SEFCSIK <sefcsik@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for gcc Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:48:30 -0500 Organization: The University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Canada Message-ID: <32E7C08E.38FC@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I am studying C++ in school and am looking for the latest version of gcc and associated libraries for NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel procesor. Thanks. Bela Sefcsik sefcsik@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
From: paul@pth.com (Paul Haddad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GUI for gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz ? Date: 23 Jan 1997 23:06:11 GMT Organization: InternetMCI Message-ID: <5c8qt3$g86@news.internetmci.com> References: <199701221523.KAA05222@nerc.com> <5c8iv3$r06@highway.leidenuniv.nl> In <5c8iv3$r06@highway.leidenuniv.nl> gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl wrote: > A couple of years ago, there was a workspace bundle for sale which would let > you treat tar archives as directories. If my rusty memory serves me > correctly, it was a commercial prooduct, and I do not have a clue what > happended to it. > > I (along with Ralph Zazula & Pinnacle Research) wrote it back when there was somewhat of a market for this sort of thing. There was actually several different inspectors. One was for showing/decompressing the contents of a tar, .tar.gz or .tar.Z file, there was also a encryption/decryption inspector an improved image and improved sound inspector (I only wrote the encryption and decompression inspectors). Unfortunately, we only sold about 2 or 3 copies of it. So it wasn't a product that lasted a very long time... See ya, -- Paul Haddad
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.mach Subject: Re: OS Componenets of OpenStep for Mach Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:52:50 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Imtxqmm00iV9AA4xQx@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5bhkt2$t78@manuel.ocs.mq.edu.au> <E421ww.2CE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <yu2lo9k70rg.fsf@cronald.osf.org> In-Reply-To: <yu2lo9k70rg.fsf@cronald.osf.org> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 23-Jan-97 Re: OS Componenets of OpenS.. by Randall Dean@cronald.osf > dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > I believe they use Mach 2.0 and NOT 2.5. It's somewhat up to question. Since I've never had access to NeXT's source code, I have to describe things from what I know of CMU's versions of Mach. What NeXT calls "Mach 2.5" is somewhere between what CMU calls Mach 2.0 and Mach 2.5. CMU Mach added NFS and user-level paging objects as the major externally visible functionality-- NeXT's Mach has NFS but not user-level paging objects. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MusicKit installation problem? Date: 24 Jan 1997 02:16:35 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <5c9623$ck5@eve.enteract.com> References: <5c55fd$pao@eve.enteract.com> In-Reply-To: <5c55fd$pao@eve.enteract.com> Just to follow up... my work-around was to create the directory /LocalDeveloper/Examples/DSP by hand. After that, the installer was able to complete its work. This seems like a bug to me. -Kevin On 01/22/97, Kevin Coffee wrote: >I'm trying to install the MusicKit_4.1.pkg but have hit a snag. The >installer chokes toward the very end of the intallation and reports >that there was an error. It appears that most of the package has been >installed except for some documentation files and the receipt pkg. > >Since there is no receipt pkg, I can't easily un-install everything >(without going through the bom and finding every file individually). > >I'm running 3.3 on motorola. > >Anyone have this experience, or a suggestion about what might be wrong >at my end? Thanks. >-- >Kevin Coffee <kpc@enteract.com> <diffwerk@enteract.com> >d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n >NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html > -- Kevin Coffee <kpc@enteract.com> <diffwerk@enteract.com> d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Does NeXTStep have these apps? Date: 24 Jan 1997 08:46:33 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <slrn5egt13.260.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> References: <32cd4afb.680711251@snews.zippo.com> <32CC3A5B.3DA4@earthlink.net> <01bbf90f$6e54d6a0$c36fface@aventar> <nervous-ya02408000R0301970202130001@news.netrover.com> <5ajjq7$bu@news.platinum.com> <32DB7321.1018@earthlink.net> <trubane-1501970128280001@den1-2-17.dialup.unt.edu> <maury-1501971113270001@199.166.204.230> <E459zx.4uv@AWT.NL> <32E6AD9A.26C1@spidernet.nl> <32E844AB.38A8@earthlink.net> In article <32E844AB.38A8@earthlink.net>, Steve Kellener wrote: >Eelco Houwink wrote: >> @ The appearance manager, when implemented according to OS8 directions, >> should offer the look and feel of OS7, NextStep, W95 and X-windows GUIs. >> This way, a user switching to AppleOS will retain the environment that >> suits him best. >This a great idea! In fact, you can do this on your mac right now!! >Church Windows2.0 for Macintosh will switch the look of your Mac windows >to a number of looks... Copeland, NeXT, Windows 3.1, Windows '95, SGI, >Be,and Motif. If it can be done now, I don't see why It couldn't be >done on the future system. It would be nice if it came built in. I think this misses the point. The point is that is should WORK like the OS. Bowman, for instance, which tries hard to look like a NeXT on X (and does OK), doesn't have any of the nice functionality of the NeXT GUI. One of the biproducts of the development environment on the NeXT is that the GUI is uniform across programs and platforms. I can sit down with most any application and know both what to expect and where to look for it. I can probably guess the command-key to trigger it! To quote a Taiwanese proverb via an old college friend of mine, "You can't eat looks!" Paul
From: colin@rice.edu (Colin Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTSTATION as a web server Date: 24 Jan 1997 06:35:19 GMT Organization: Valley Tech Corporation Customer Message-ID: <colin-2301972315330001@anderson.vt.com> I'm a new NeXT user (been a Mac user for 8 years, BeOS for 2 months). I bought a NeXTSTATION to see what the NeXT fuss was all about. I've quickly grown to love the machine and I would like to put it to use as a web server. If you can help me, please send me an e-mail message. Colin Anderson colin@rice.edu
From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@jura.uni-bonn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: lipo app for Openstep 4.1? Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:11:57 +0000 Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970117131030.6677D-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there an Openstep 4.1 compatible lipo app available? Neither Metrosuction nor Xanthus Stripper work anymore. Regards Konstantin Wiesel Email:kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DOS filename extension for FrameMaker documents? Date: 24 Jan 1997 03:58:54 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <5c9c1u$hm8@agate.berkeley.edu> Keywords: FrameMaker, frame, framemif What 3-letter extensions should I use when copying NEXTSTEP FrameMaker documents onto a DOS floppy? Specifically for: *.frame --> *.framemif --> Thanks for the information. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu> USMail: Univ. of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720-2020 Tel: 510-642-6440, Fax: -3323, Web: http://totoro.berkeley.edu/~izumi/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: DTP for Nextstep? Message-ID: <E4IB0L.A0J@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5c5jo4$39i@precipice.fdn.fr> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 09:43:33 GMT In article <5c5jo4$39i@precipice.fdn.fr> hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) writes: > >Guenther Bauer writes > > What is the best DTP program available for Nextstep under HP PA RISC? > > All I could find was Framemaker, which is rather weak. All other > > programs aren't compiled for PA RISC as far as I know. > > If you prefer quality over price, take a look at OneVision (http://www.onevision.de/) > There's a demo on the peanuts archive. > You can also get a 1 month licence (info@onevision.de) > first: Hi Hugues, nice to meet you here... then: You can also send a mail, we have demo CD s available The manual including CD is also available from Springer in German or English. ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
From: Brian Ward <bward@stevens-tech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TOP Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:12:46 -0500 Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology Message-ID: <32DF96EE.34F@stevens-tech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------374113A7E070" ------------374113A7E070 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone know were I could get the source code for TOP. So I could see the processes on the NeXT mach kernel? ------------374113A7E070 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <HTML><BODY> <DT>Does anyone know were I could get the source code for TOP. So I could see the processes on the NeXT mach kernel? </DT> </BODY> </HTML> ------------374113A7E070--
From: devan2m@imap2.asu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What's happened to Lighthouse? Date: 24 Jan 1997 15:39:17 GMT Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <5cal35$rc0@news.asu.edu> References: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580002401971000590001@news.tiac.net> Not meaning to come down too awfully hard on you, but did you ever stop to think that there may be nothing wrong with Lighthouse's Web Site and the problem could be exclusively on your end? Moreover, and if there were a problem with Lighthouse's URL, that it may have been a temporary problem? This is the type of post which gets my feathers up at times as it sounds too close to the Chicken Little "sky is falling" and "another one bites the dust" variety. Just my feelings ... James B. Frazer (jbf_see_signature@frazer.com) wrote: : I tried the http://www.lightouse.com url before posting an answer : to a query, and it seems to have vanished from the net (no DNS : entry). : Anyone else have this problem, or know where it has gone? : Barney : Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTime Date: 23 Jan 1997 18:16:30 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5c89tu$ss6@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <32E7296E.AC1@ix.netcom.com> Mark Trombino <mtrombin@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > I tried looking up NeXTime on NeXTAnswer with no luck. I'm hoping > someone out there can help me. > > Is NeXTime still available? Where can I get it? How much does > it cost? Does it support QuickTime movies like I've heard? It is now part of the current system, so you'll get it if you buy the latest release. If you're looking to stay with some older release, and you just want to get NeXTIME, I don't know if you can buy it (not new, I mean -- obviously you could buy someone else's copy when *they* buy the latest system upgrade). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP for Nextstep? Date: 23 Jan 1997 18:13:44 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5c89oo$ss6@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5c36sd$45e@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <5c38pt$t3v@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) wrote: > PasteUp is quad-FAT. You can pull a demo copy from > next.ftp.peak.org, then get a demo license by writing > to <PasteUp@afs.com>. it's ftp.next.peak.org, not next.ftp.peak.org. Or you can use next-ftp.peak.org (with the dash). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: 24 Jan 1997 19:26:38 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5cb2de$ofj@news.xmission.com> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com> <5c0nvp$agt@odyssey.cognex.com> lark@odyssey.cognex.com (Lar Kaufman) wrote: > In article <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com>, Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> wrote: > >In <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Robb Lincoln > >wrote: > >> CLI. Ironic as it is, I believe thare must be a way to integreate GUI > >> and CLI gracefully, without scaring the uninitiated. > > > >Yes! It was done by NeXT... > > I'd credit that feature to MIT--as a general feature of the > X Window System--if you are talking about thriving solutions. Otherwise > I'd have to say that probably the very first was Richard Stallman's > command interface solutions for LISP. Huh? I know a lot of people that are scared by X! NEXTSTEP has more in common with Macs than X, which makes it a GUI which is a lot kinder--and not anywhere near as fearsome. I have never been impressed by the CLI/GUI integration in X whereas under NeXT's system it is truly seamless... -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What's happened to Lighthouse? Date: 24 Jan 1997 17:14:37 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <5caqlt$cnj$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580002401971000590001@news.tiac.net> jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) wrote: >I tried the http://www.lightouse.com url before posting an answer >to a query, and it seems to have vanished from the net (no DNS >entry). > >Anyone else have this problem, or know where it has gone? > >Barney > >Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me) Try using "lighthouse" instead of lightouse in your URL. --Ryan PS. No problem reaching them.
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Unrefreshed screens in Lynx -- Why? Date: 24 Jan 1997 20:15:45 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5cb59h$kdc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I have lynx (2.6) on my slab (3.2). When I browse now, unlike when I had a previous version of lynx, the screen is not refreshed when I scroll a page. This happens even with lynx compatible sites like yahoo. Thus, the only way a given word is erased is if those characters are overwritten on the next page. Nedless to say, this is highly annoying. Does anyone else have this problem? What can be done? Lones -- .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. / L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \ / `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' ` Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 (617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax) lones@lones.mit.edu
From: Pohl Longsine <pohl@screaming.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:17:31 -0600 Organization: mementech, inc. Message-ID: <32E918DB.6C5E0FD7@screaming.org> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com> <5c0nvp$agt@odyssey.cognex.com> <5cb2de$ofj@news.xmission.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don Yacktman wrote: > lark@odyssey.cognex.com (Lar Kaufman) wrote: > > In article <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com>, Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> wrote: > > >In <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Robb > Lincoln > > >wrote: > > >> CLI. Ironic as it is, I believe thare must be a way to integreate GUI > > >> and CLI gracefully, without scaring the uninitiated. > > > > > >Yes! It was done by NeXT... > > > > I'd credit that feature to MIT--as a general feature of the > > X Window System--if you are talking about thriving solutions. Otherwise > > I'd have to say that probably the very first was Richard Stallman's > > command interface solutions for LISP. > > Huh? I know a lot of people that are scared by X! NEXTSTEP > has more in common with Macs than X, which makes it a GUI which > is a lot kinder--and not anywhere near as fearsome. I have > never been impressed by the CLI/GUI integration in X whereas > under NeXT's system it is truly seamless... I have to agree. X tends to terrify the uninitiated, so the honor truly goes to NeXTstep -- a system that I've never known to terrify anybody. -- pohl@screaming.org |"Reality is that which when you stop believing http://screaming.org/ | in it doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick ----------------------+---------------------------------------------- OpenStep Inferno Java | Making the world safe for platform diversity.
From: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: sendmail 8.8.5 Date: 24 Jan 1997 21:24:41 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <5cb9ap$leo$1@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <5c9ed1$d8m@news.digifix.com> Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> wrote: ... % Finally, a decent up-to-date sendmail for NEXTSTEP! This latest % version is compiled for multiple architectures (NeXT m68k, Intel x86, % HP PA-RISC, Sun SPARC), supports NetInfo, NIS, smrsh (sendmail % restricted shell), mail.local and outgoing aliases (YourName@host.com) % with the user database. ... % I recommend that you pick up a copy of the O'Reilly and Associates % book on sendmail before using this version of sendmail. Furthermore, % the installation and use of this software is entirely at your own % risk. Read the README notice for more details. Hello, Could someone comment on those "risks", and on the advantages of replacing NeXT's sendmail ? Thanks! ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What's happened to Lighthouse? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:00:59 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580002401971000590001@news.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I tried the http://www.lightouse.com url before posting an answer to a query, and it seems to have vanished from the net (no DNS entry). Anyone else have this problem, or know where it has gone? Barney Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unrefreshed screens in Lynx -- Why? Date: 24 Jan 1997 21:53:32 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5cbb0t$7hi@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5cb59h$kdc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In article <5cb59h$kdc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) writes: > I have lynx (2.6) on my slab (3.2). When I browse now, unlike when I had > a previous version of lynx, the screen is not refreshed when I scroll a Press CNTL-L, to redraw the screen. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Andre Lalonde <tralala@mlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: booklet-making app available --> PageChain.app Date: 14 Jan 1997 13:50:37 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5bg2vd$bmt@supernews.login.net> References: <5b5iot$bft@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <5b9pdf$149@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5bdb9l$5c3@bignews.shef.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <5bdb9l$5c3@bignews.shef.ac.uk> > On 01/12/97, Uli Zappe wrote: > > As I said in another thread, if this tool is also able to do "book-like" > > sorting of pages (meaning if you you have say four pages then print 4|1 on > > one side and 2|3 on the other side of one sheet of paper) to print your own > > little booklets, I'd be VERY interested! > > --------------------------------------------- You might want to check: http://www.running-start.com/cgi-bin/showPage.cgi/downloads/binaries.html/Page Chain v1.5 (beta) (528k) Cheers, André Lalonde <tralala@mlink.net> (NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP SOFTWARE TRANSLATOR) ---------------------------------------------
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 00:41:35 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Distribution: inet Message-ID: <E4HLxC.1pG@micmac.com> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <E2uL81.16F@micmac.com> <32c0162f.14922692@news.sover.net> <jhsterne-ya023280002412961838040001@news.earthlink.net> <E4D5BA.4F1@micmac.com> <jhsterne-ya02408000R2101972141330001@news.mindspring.com> Cc: jhsterne@mindspring.com.nospam This was written in comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep (<jhsterne-ya02408000R2101972141330001@news.mindspring.com>) by Jason S.: > Excuse me? My post was obviously pointing out just how petty an argument > over who posted what first was. First, you were not invited to comment on this! Second, the history of the posting had its importance in that case. But that's beyond you... > And my having "brain between my ears" > [sic] is completely unrelated to my knowing whether or not you have the > common sense to realize that when you and Lance posted has no relationship > to when you and Lance read said posts. You still don't get it! Too subtile for you I guess... Don't feel the need to answer me. I couldn't read your posts anymore! mc
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone running NT and OS 4.1 on same drive? Date: 24 Jan 1997 19:08:35 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <5cb1bj$5hq$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Hi, I'm going to be running Windows NT 4.0 and OPENSTEP 4.1 on the same 2GB SCSI drive. Each op sys will be given a gig partition. Does anyone have any experience doing this? Anything I should know? Thanks in advance, -Chuck -- Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck --------------------------------------------------------------------- chuck_esterbrook@orcacomputer.com / vo 540 231-3475 / fx 540 231-3480 Orca Computer, Inc. / 1800 Kraft Dr. Suite 111 / Blacksburg, VA 24060
Date: 24 Jan 1997 13:29:35 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <cancel.01bc0967$eba3e700$c87106c2@kevin.c7> Control: cancel <01bc0967$eba3e700$c87106c2@kevin.c7> From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: "Kevin" <kevin.c7@ukonline.co.uk> Subject: cmsg cancel <01bc0967$eba3e700$c87106c2@kevin.c7> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970124.07 for further details
From: notmy@address.org (Collin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Foundation Classes Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 21:28:29 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Sender: clp5@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <notmy-2401972128300001@cu-dialup-1001.cit.cornell.edu> Hi I'm trying to get OmniPDF and OmniWeb to run on my NeXTCube, but since I'm running NS 3.2 I don't believe I have the Foundation classes which Omni says are necessary to run their apps. So the questions...how can I get the foundation classes onto my machine, short of buying a NS 3.3 CD? Is it possible to get them to run under 3.2? If not what should I do for PDF viewing and web browsing? Thanks in advance...Collin ------- Sorry, I'm tired of junk email, so my reply address is invalid. clp5@cornell.edu
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: another cool thing about Colorizer.bundle for Mail.app Date: 25 Jan 1997 03:59:18 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5cc0em$sn@news4.digex.net> References: <199701241442.JAA10457@nerc.com> Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> wrote: > Note: although the name implies that you need a color machine > (and I'm sure that wouldn't be bad) it is usable on a mono > machine, especially the thread-marking. Actually, I've stuck to mostly monochrome colors, and it looks much nicer (to me anyway :). I had to wear sun glasses for my previous crayola color scheme :) > Colorizer is available at > http://www.next.com:80/~eseymour/Colorizer/Welcome.html and > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/Colorizer.1.5.NIHS.b.tar .gz > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/Colorizer.1.5.README -- Thanks, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MailColorizer Date: 25 Jan 1997 02:50:05 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5cbsct$sn@news4.digex.net> Colorizer 1.5 by Eric Seymour <eric@next.com> is way cool (I got it off the his next web page, but don't have the url anymore). Anyway, there is one problem...I simply have gad awful color taste and it looks pukey. Would anyone that has some elegant color scheme that doesn't make it look like the screen has crayola all over it mind sending me their colors? Send me a note if you don't mind... Anyway, worst comes to worst, I'll make them all grey and just use the settings panel to select groups of mail...really nice bundle, thanks much Eric :) -- Thanks, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: Lusty Wench <lusty@lusty.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What's happened to Lighthouse? Date: 24 Jan 1997 10:47:45 -0800 Organization: What's that? Sender: lusty@idiom.com Message-ID: <5cb04h$67d@idiom.com> References: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580002401971000590001@news.tiac.net> In article <jbf_see_signature-ya023580002401971000590001@news.tiac.net>, James B. Frazer <jbf_see_signature@frazer.com> wrote: > >I tried the http://www.lightouse.com url before posting an answer >to a query, and it seems to have vanished from the net (no DNS >entry). If you tried that exact url, it's no surprise your connection failed, because you've misspelled lighthouse. I just tried www.lighthouse.com and got the page. Lusty
From: Isaac <isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT's Black Hole, was Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:58:15 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970121105245.18120B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <QmsIHAq00iWl078YM0@andrew.cmu.edu><19970118223900.RAA24511@ladder01.news.aol.com> <SHESS.97Jan18232337@slave.one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <SHESS.97Jan18232337@slave.one.net> On 18 Jan 1997, Scott Hess wrote: > In any case, NeXT's use of a Black Hole for allowing files to be > undeleted is _still_ not right. Black holes emit energy by virtue of > splitting virtual particle pairs. If you tried to do an undelete on a > file dropped into a black hole, you'd get back a virtual file with no > relationship to your original file. [That's the nice thing about > electrons and other particles - one electron is as good as any other.] Now THAT would make for interesting behaviour of the NeXT Black Hole! I always thought the "Black Hole" metaphor was curious - it seemed to me like reading from the black hole should be like reading from /dev/null. In any case, it's still light-years cooler than this wimpy "Recycler" nonsense. :) -Isaac
From: Alan Lovejoy <alovejoy@concentric.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:35:15 -0800 Organization: Modulation Message-ID: <32E9C5C3.7EAF@concentric.net> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com> <5c0nvp$agt@odyssey.cognex.com> <5cb2de$ofj@news.xmission.com> <32E918DB.6C5E0FD7@screaming.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pohl Longsine wrote: > > Don Yacktman wrote: > > lark@odyssey.cognex.com (Lar Kaufman) wrote: > > > In article <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com>, Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> wrote: > > > >In <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Robb > > Lincoln > > > >wrote: > > > >> CLI. Ironic as it is, I believe thare must be a way to integreate GUI > > > >> and CLI gracefully, without scaring the uninitiated. > > > > > > > >Yes! It was done by NeXT... > > > > > > I'd credit that feature to MIT--as a general feature of the > > > X Window System--if you are talking about thriving solutions. Otherwise > > > I'd have to say that probably the very first was Richard Stallman's > > > command interface solutions for LISP. > > > > Huh? I know a lot of people that are scared by X! NEXTSTEP > > has more in common with Macs than X, which makes it a GUI which > > is a lot kinder--and not anywhere near as fearsome. I have > > never been impressed by the CLI/GUI integration in X whereas > > under NeXT's system it is truly seamless... > > I have to agree. X tends to terrify the uninitiated, so > the honor truly goes to NeXTstep -- a system that I've never > known to terrify anybody. Not even WinTel advocates? -- Alan L. Lovejoy |==============================================| Smalltalk Consultant | Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs! | alovejoy@concentric.net |==============================================|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701241442.JAA10457@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 09:42:50 -0500 Subject: another cool thing about Colorizer.bundle for Mail.app Cc: eric@next.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary When you open a .mbox, the thread that you were last reading is still highlighted. This is very useful if you have to close up a mailbox and then you are trying to find your place later on. Note: although the name implies that you need a color machine (and I'm sure that wouldn't be bad) it is usable on a mono machine, especially the thread-marking. Colorizer is available at http://www.next.com:80/~eseymour/Colorizer/Welcome.html and ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/Colorizer.1.5.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/Colorizer.1.5.README TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701241549.KAA11219@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: c29c0f360dce388574f205d5d71ed12f - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 10:49:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Old Apps and new OS Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: c29c0f360dce388574f205d5d71ed12f - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Dave Johnston <djohnsto@imma.org> Original Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:29:15 -0500 Message-ID: c29c0f360dce388574f205d5d71ed12f - > I have a few questions about the differences between 3.0 and 3.2, 3.0 is a test-release, 3.2 is stable and just about find for 95% of the things you'd like to do. You can't compile QuadFat with 3.2, and there are a few apps that don't work under 3.2 that would under 3.3 (but you are asking about 3.0, so whatever doesn't work for 3.2 sure wouldn't work for 3.2). Several apps won't work with 3.0 because they were designed later, the free PPP is one of them. Basically, there's no reason I know of to want 3.0 over 3.2, with the exception of the Phone Kit shlibs and whatnot that are used with ISDN if you want to go through that hassle, which you probably don't > Some of the apps that I want to keep are: > > Lotus Improv > AppSoft Draw 9sp?) > Wordperfect In general you should save everything in /LocalApps /LocalLibrary and any other /Local*, as well as /usr/local/ For WordPerfect you will need the /LocalLibrary/WPLearn_Documents/ and /LocalLibrary/WPReference/ as well as /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WP* For Improv I think all you need is the app itself (someone let me know if I'm wrong!) Don't know anything about AppSoft Draw TjL ps -- drop me a note if you have more questions. -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: Steve Haynes <sghaynes@widomaker.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DTP for Nextstep? Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 22:47:55 -0500 Organization: Widomaker Public Access Internet (804)221-8070 Message-ID: <32E830EB.783E@widomaker.com> References: <5c36sd$45e@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <5c3q8t$jlc@usenet.rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Garance A Drosehn wrote: > > h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (Guenther Bauer) wrote: > > What is the best DTP program available for Nextstep under HP PA > > RISC? All I could find was Framemaker, which is rather weak. > > All other programs aren't compiled for PA RISC as far as I know. > > Look for an application called PasteUp, from a company called > AFS (Anderson Financial Systems). There is a demo version > available, on ftp.next.peak.org if no where else. I suspect > it's also at the peanuts ftp site (in Germany, which might be > quicker for you), but don't really know that for sure. The > contacts for peanuts are: > > World Wide Web: http://peanuts.leo.org/ > FTP access: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/ > > --- > Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu > Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA Hello I use PasteUp daily in running my business and have found it much more pleasant to work with than PageMaker on the Mac and Windows. I would highly recommend it. Steve Haynes EQB Industries Note: I am not affiliated with AFS the makers of PasteUp in any way.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701241557.KAA11383@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 613bd7e307760733aa0f30e57b3ab6b0 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 10:57:46 -0500 Subject: Re: GUI for gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz ? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 613bd7e307760733aa0f30e57b3ab6b0 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl Original Date: 23 Jan 1997 20:50:43 GMT > A couple of years ago, there was a workspace bundle for sale which > would let you treat tar archives as directories. If my rusty memory > serves me correctly, it was a commercial prooduct, and I do not > have a clue what happended to it. You might try this: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/archiveutil/TARInspector1.0.NISH.bs.tar.gz TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 06:22:42 -0600 From: Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE Subject: PointCast with SoftPC 4.1 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <854194250.22260@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service Hi, Did somebody run PointCast within SoftPC 4.1 ? NetScape 3.0-16 with Java and IE3 runs fine in SoftPC, but PointCast can't connect. Any ideas ? Thanks, - Karsten --- Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE Phone / Fax : +86-10-64 94 78 03 *** Powered_By_NEXTSTEP *** -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: barton@doggy.dircon.co.uk (Barton Friedland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC 4.1 - Typing problem Date: 25 Jan 1997 13:36:09 GMT Organization: via Direct Connection News service Message-ID: <5cd289$otr$1@newsserver.dircon.co.uk> Anyone have this problem? You type in a SoftPC window but not all keys you press are passed on to the window - sometimes a single keypress yields TWO keys on screen - sometime the keys appear in all caps no matter what you do. -- Barton Friedland barton@clmuk.com Camilla Lowther Management 0171 727 6242 phone Top Floor, 19 All Saints Road 0171 792 0587 fax London W11 1HE
From: Lars Immisch <lars@ibp.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DOS filename extension for FrameMaker documents? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:19:35 +0100 Organization: Immisch, Becker & Partner Message-ID: <32E88CB7.243A@ibp.de> References: <5c9c1u$hm8@agate.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Izumi Ohzawa wrote: > > What 3-letter extensions should I use when copying NEXTSTEP FrameMaker > documents onto a DOS floppy? > > Specifically for: > *.frame --> > *.framemif --> The 3.x Windows FrameMaker used .doc and .mif. This using .doc was slightly nasty because Word also used .doc; now FrameMaker 5 uses .fm and .mif Lars -- mailto:lars@ibp.de http://www.ibp.de/~lars Yesterdays yellow yoyo can make you yawn today
From: ikouts@adonis.clnsnet.ariadne-t.gr (Ioannis Koutselas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Repeated:Help with Slip/PPP on NS2.1 Date: 25 Jan 1997 14:41:06 GMT Organization: National Technical University of Athens, Greece Message-ID: <5cd622$2k0@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr> Dear Netters I apologize for the bandwidth. I am seeking info from someone who has succesfully put ppp or SLIP onto a pizza box running 2.1. Please share the name of the program and some clues which do the trick. Thank you in advance guys! Ioannis
From: Terry Gliedt <tpg@fv.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTATION as a web server Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:59:01 -0500 Organization: First Virtual Holdings Message-ID: <32EA2DC5.5036E033@fv.com> References: <colin-2301972315330001@anderson.vt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Colin Anderson <colin@rice.edu> Colin Anderson wrote: > > I'm a new NeXT user (been a Mac user for 8 years, BeOS for 2 months). I > bought a NeXTSTATION to see what the NeXT fuss was all about. I've quickly > grown to love the machine and I would like to put it to use as a web > server. If you can help me, please send me an e-mail message. The Apache server (http://www.apache.org) will do nicely on your NeXTstation. -- =================================================================== Terry Gliedt tpg@fv.com MIME OK First Virtual Holdings http://www.fv.com/ http://www.hps.com/~tpg/
From: Brian Sutherland <bcs@onramp.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Networking NeXTs Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:58:45 -0600 Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <32EA3BC5.7858@onramp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a NeXT Turbo Dimension and NeXT Turbo Color Station. One has a NeXT Color Printer and one has a CDROM drive. I want to be able to share these devices between the two computers. I only have the Academic version of NeXTSTEP 3.3 and no real good manuals. I do not know how to set up a Netinfo or any type of NeXT server. Can anyone help me via email or phone? Or if you have any lead to where I can find NeXT networking information it would be helpful. Please reply to both email and newsgroup so I do not miss your answer. Thanx -Brian bcs@onramp.net
From: jklein@freon.artificial.com (jon klein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MouseX problem -- slow and locks up Date: 24 Jan 97 22:54:53 GMT Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Message-ID: <32e93dbd.0@192.33.12.30> Hey there, I've got two problems with MouseX on my station. 1) It's slow. I used to be running a mono 25mhz machine, and it ran fine. Now I've got a 33 mhz color turbo, and it runs very slowly. Even things that do not use a lot of graphics (which I thought was slowing it down) take a long time. 2) Atfer I use the command-delete combo to get back to NeXTstep, and then use Xfe.app to return to Xwindows, Xfe.app will get stuck in a loop, and never return to Xwindows. I thought that perhaps the problem was the one outlined in the help window of Xfe.app, and I tried adding the appropriate xmodmap commands to my .xinitrc. I'm still having the problem however. Does anybody know what these problems are all about? Is there a commercial solution that will fix these problems -- I need Xwindows apps to do work sometimes, and right now it's kind of unreliable. Thanks for the help! -- -jon klein jklein@freon.artificial.com Caper will do it for me.
From: royalta@jenike.com Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Date: 18 Jan 1997 17:25:12 GMT Organization: Shore.Net/Eco Software, Inc; (info@shore.net) Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5br11o$h14@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> Cc: jones.948@osu.edu In <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> Steve Jones wrote: > I was just curious, did next have the "recycle bin" before Win95 came out? > > Steve > I can't remember if it was introduced in NeXTSTEP 2.0 or 3.0 ± originally it was called a Black Hole. In any case, 3.0 came out in 1991-92 which was obviously many years before win95.
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? References: <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> From: shill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) Message-ID: <32e10f23.0@cisun2000.unil.ch> Date: 18 Jan 97 17:57:55 GMT jones.948@osu.edu (Steve Jones) wrote: > I was just curious, did next have the "recycle bin" before Win95 came out? > > Steve Sure did.... Also it had the [X] close box, and a few other bits of the look and feel of Win '95 in NEXTSTEP '89... Although, I think until NEXTSTEP 3.0 the Recycler had been a blackhole which was kind of cool.
From: kroger@ucla.edu (kroger@ucla.edu) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 12:00:55 -0700 Organization: UCLA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <kroger-2501971200550001@softmachine.psych.ucla.edu> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <E2uL81.16F@micmac.com> <32c0162f.14922692@news.sover.net> <jhsterne-ya023280002412961838040001@news.earthlink.net> <E4D5BA.4F1@micmac.com> <jhsterne-ya02408000R2101972141330001@news.mindspring.com> <E4HLxC.1pG@micmac.com> In article <E4HLxC.1pG@micmac.com>, mic@micmac.com wrote: > This was written in > comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep > (<jhsterne-ya02408000R2101972141330001@news.mindspring.com>) by Jason > S.: > > > Excuse me? My post was obviously pointing out just how petty an > argument > > over who posted what first was. > > First, you were not invited to comment on this! > Second, the history of the posting had its importance in that case. But > that's beyond you... > Not invited to comment? Not invited to comment? You post on usenet for millions to see and you say somebody was not invited to comment? How big an idiot can somebody be? I don't know what your argument was about (nor do I care) but I don't like to miss a chance to tell an idiot what an idiot he is.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701241434.JAA10388@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: c2ab5c115ce7705a2be557696f0122bb - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 09:34:12 -0500 Subject: Re: GUI for gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz ? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com, info@impact.com References: c2ab5c115ce7705a2be557696f0122bb - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Original Date: 23 Jan 1997 20:34:01 GMT > Actually, there are/were several apps that managed Tar files > > enTar is one, but there have been several others. Check the peak > archive. I put a call in this morning to Impact Software Publishing, Inc and left them a message asking them to let me know if enTar is still available. ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/util/enTar3.1.NIHS.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/util/enTar3.1.README The README also talks about a new version of the program that was "scheduled to be released in July 1995" but I'm not sure if that ever made it out of the door. Anyway, none of the programs that I have seen were able to do anything with .tar.gz files (such as listing, extracting single or multiple files) -- they just dealt with .tar files I'd love to be wrong about this! If so, someone tell me! TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What's happened to Lighthouse? Date: 25 Jan 1997 23:25:18 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970125232500.SAA21030@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5cb04h$67d@idiom.com> I would like to ask however, along a similar vein if anyone knows if their wonderful academic pricing has survived the purchase by Sun? I've been thinking of purchasing WetPaint and OpenWrite from them. The Academic pages were a bit tattered the last time I checked. William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:04:47 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Message-ID: <E4L3zz.7rH@micmac.com> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <Pine.ULT.3.91.970113115411.7526A-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <E47tt4.2sv@micmac.com> <5c0nvp$agt@odyssey.cognex.com> <5cb2de$ofj@news.xmission.com> <32E918DB.6C5E0FD7@screaming.org> Cc: pohl@screaming.org This was written in comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy (<32E918DB.6C5E0FD7@screaming.org>) by Pohl Longsine: > I have to agree. X tends to terrify the uninitiated, so > the honor truly goes to NeXTstep -- a system that I've never > known to terrify anybody. Except some who have never seen one. =;) mc
From: togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:58:06 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001701971957130001@news.quicksilver.com> rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) wrote: >> rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) wrote: >> <SNIP> > Lance, I'm a programmer, and from a programmer point of view it was >possible to write 32-bit code without contortions on 68K from its inception >(and have that code continue to run without modification on later models >with larger physical address spaces). This did not become true on x86 >until two unique memory models and some years later (80386). > > I'm a programmer too. If I find myself thinking about register size, I'm usually dealing with a performance issue. At that point I'm interested in the size of the data path and clock speed as much as register size. Depending on what's going on, I might me interested in address size too. Of course if you're writing compilers, assemblers or libraries, you might have a different take. From what I've seen, people who use higher level lanugages could care less about bitness - other than bragging rights. They seem interested in speed only. It's not like they have much say about library or API performance anyway. Fact is, you can do anything with a 4-bit ALU that can be done with a 32-bit ALU and if the langugage you're dealing with has the right support, bitness is faily transparent. >> > Fact is all 68K's offer a unified 32-bit programmer model, for pointers >> >and integers. True, the original 68000 had a 16-bit external data bus and >> >only 24 bits of physical address bus, but this is also why we call Pentium >> >and Pentium Pro "32 bit processors" and not 64 bits: it's commonly accepted >> >to look at the ALU word width or address space size as the "bitness" of a >> >processor. >> > >> >> Hardly. It MAY have been commonly accepted in the past - long past by >> computer standards. Now-a-days, you'd better explain just what you >> mean. My HP-48GX *calculator* has a 64-bit ALU. > > So was it accepted in 1982 or not? > As I recall, the rage in 1982 was about data bus size vs. ALU size in determining bitness. The Z-80 could do 16-bit register and indirect arithmetic but was labeled an 8-bit processor. The 6502 couldn't do either but was still labeled 8-bit. Personally, I prefer data bus size as the indicator of bitness. However, this is one holy war I'll pass on for now.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hhoff@schwaben.de.NOSPAM (Holger Hoffstaette) Subject: I don't grok NSCMYKAdjust - bad colors in 8 bit Sender: news@flop.schwaben.de Organization: NeXT Ghetto People feat. St.Eve Message-ID: <E4GtMw.Et@flop.schwaben.de> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:30:32 GMT This issue already came up some time ago, so here's a rerun.. According to the 4.x release notes, the window server does CMYK color adjustment by default. I tried to turn this off by issuing a defaults write NSGlobalDomain NSCMYKAdjust NO But this doesn't seem to have any effect on 3.3 apps, so I also tried the 3.3 equivalent NXCMYKAdjust - still no luck. Whenever I open e.g. a JPEG picture with a viewer, the resulting image looks like a bad 16 color copy. :( Most notably this happens whenever OmniImageFilter kicks in. NEXTIME movies have lost a lot of quality, too. Is there any way I can just turn off whatever changes were made between 3.3 and 4.x and get the old 8-bit look back? Pretty please? Holger -- Object web weaver | @work: hhoff@media-group.de Media group | @home: hhoff@schwaben.de (NeXTmail & PGP ok) Stuttgart, Germany | OPENSTEP. Resistance is futile.
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: setting dns Date: 23 Jan 1997 17:42:24 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <5c87u0$sai$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <glenn-ya02408000R2201971616430001@news.europa.com> glenn@nowsoft.com (Tod L. Glenn) wrote: >Greetings, > >I am trying to determine how to set the dns address on NeXTstep 3.3. I >found where to configure IP address and router. Any help is appreciated. >This is a lone NeXT box in a mac and PC shop. > >---- >Tod L. Glenn >Internet Services Administrator >Now Software ITG >webmaster@nowsoft.com >---- >http://www.nowsoft.com >ftp://ftp.nowsoft.com >listserv@nowsoft.com If, by dns address, you mean what the address of your dns server is, then set up a file called /etc/resolv.conf with the following lines domain domain.name # This is your domain nameserver ip.address # The first dns nameserver nameserver ip.address # Another dns nameserver See man 5 resolver for more info. --Ryan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701251444.JAA03401@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: ab7f5bd23b4e3f8e89c02a922d40eda4 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 97 09:44:03 -0500 Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: sendmail 8.8.5 Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: ab7f5bd23b4e3f8e89c02a922d40eda4 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Original Date: 24 Jan 1997 21:24:41 GMT > Could someone comment on those "risks", and on the advantages of > replacing NeXT's sendmail ? 89.4% of the time, the "use at your own risk" message is simply the author's way of protecting their own hiney. Not that it is a bad idea, and in fact I use it myself. The "risks" as I know them, are: 1) your current setup may already work, and by upgrading you may break something 2) your current setup may not work, but if you hose NetInfo, that would be worse 3) this new version of sendmail may have some horrible as-yet-unknown-bug and you may be putting a gaping security hole on your system The advantages are: 1) the new features, such as the "masquerade_as" feature, which allows PPP users to get correct "From" lines without having to muck with rulesets in sendmail. That gets rid of risk #1. 2) if your current setup does work, you may want to leave it alone (provided you are aware of whatever bugs/security holes are in that version, but there are instructions for upgrading which I found to make it all very easy (there goes risk #2, for the most part) 3) the question is do you prefer new features and new bugs/flaws, or can you get along with the old features and old bugs/flaws. For me, I wanted to have the newer sendmail to use the masquerade_as feature, and to do a few other things that was made easier by not having to muck with rulesets. There is an excellent set of instructions to install sendmail, which you can find at my NeXTStep page, under the "Other sites" heading (http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next) TjL ps -- the instructions are for 8.7.5, but work for the current release. Note: I upgraded to 8.8.2 when it came out (from 8.7.5, which I upgraded to using the instructions I mentioned above) and 8.8.4. Since going to 8.7.5, the upgrades after that, for me, have been as easy as installing the new sendmail package and rebooting, because all my info has stayed the same; so "upgrading" sendmail has been remarkably simple. -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: cb@guinan.mm.se (Christian Brunschen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Loginwindow Workspace hook Date: 25 Jan 1997 23:56:20 GMT Organization: - Message-ID: <5ce6j4$aim@mn5.swip.net> Keywords: loginwindow dwrite Workspace hook Hi, I am trying to start a different program than Workspace at login time. The manual page for 'loginwindow' states that dwrite loginwindow Workspace /Users/cb/bin/loginprogram should make loginwindow start /Users/cb/bin/loginprogram instead of Workspace.app at login time. I have tried doing just that. Result ? Nothing. No change in the behaviour of loginwindow. Workspace still gets started, and my program doesn't. I am running 3.3 on Black 040 hardware. If anyone has any ideas, please share them with me. A search at NeXTAnswers revealed nothing. Best regards, // Christian Brunschen -- -- Christian Brunschen cb@mm.se
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTATION as a web server Date: 26 Jan 1997 05:31:12 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5ceq70$47e@news.digifix.com> References: <colin-2301972315330001@anderson.vt.com> <32EA2DC5.5036E033@fv.com> In-Reply-To: <32EA2DC5.5036E033@fv.com> On 01/25/97, Terry Gliedt wrote: >Colin Anderson wrote: >> >> I'm a new NeXT user (been a Mac user for 8 years, BeOS for 2 months). I >> bought a NeXTSTATION to see what the NeXT fuss was all about. I've quickly >> grown to love the machine and I would like to put it to use as a web >> server. If you can help me, please send me an e-mail message. > > >The Apache server (http://www.apache.org) will do nicely on your >NeXTstation. Yeah, the current (1.1.3) version compiles without a hassle on 4.1... Old black hardware isn't something I'd want to serve more than 6000 small-ish documents a day on. And you'll want to run at LEAST 3.3p1. Oh, and turn off the hostaddress dns stuff... :-) -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Real Audio Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 16:49:31 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32EB0C82.DC9@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5c8593$rql@newstand.syr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jacques Lewin <jlewin@whatnext.syr.edu> Jacques Lewin wrote: > > Is there a version of the real audio app for Next? ( So I can liosten to > National Public Radio stuff?) Check out following web-site: http://www.this.net/~frank/franksprojects.html http://www.this.net/~frank/CyberRadio1_NS.tar.gz YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 2.x apps on NS 3.x Date: 20 Jan 1997 05:51:14 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970120055100.AAA06773@ladder01.news.aol.com> Uh, I tried to get FrameMaker 2.0d to work on my cube after intalling NS 3.1--no go--Anyone know of a patch? Is there a list of software which isn't compatible between versions? William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: darin@connectnet1.connectnet.com (Darin Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 17 Jan 1997 19:24:37 GMT Message-ID: <slrn5dvkfg.r74.darin@connectnet1.connectnet.com> References: <5bk49q$d31@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> <rbarris-ya023280001501972306580001@news.quicksilver.com> <doenges.853411327@lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> <32DFCD07.3AAE@Fujitsu.com.au> >> In fact, some early (~70s) computer had a >> 12 bit CPU (can't remeber what it was and who made it) that worked bit >> seriell internally, but nobody would call it a one bit computer. Burroughs had a variable-bit computer. Word size was not fixed, at least not in the instruction stream. It was stack-based, so you couldn't classify it based on register size. Don't know details about it, it may have had an upper limit based on the ALU though. -- Darin Johnson darin@connectnet.com
From: h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (Guenther Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nextstep Swapspace Date: 26 Jan 1997 14:44:24 GMT Organization: University of Economics and Business Administration, Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> Who else is complaining about the way Nextstep handles the swapspace on disk? After swapping files to the disk Nextstep isn't clearing up the space until the user makes a reboot. That is somehow stupid if you don't have much RAM and if you are working with large files. Is there a way to compensate this bad handling with e.g. a patch? Guenther
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: Foundation Classes Message-ID: <E4n4J0.DA5@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <notmy-2401972128300001@cu-dialup-1001.cit.cornell.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 00:11:24 GMT In article <notmy-2401972128300001@cu-dialup-1001.cit.cornell.edu> notmy@address.org (Collin) writes: > Hi > > I'm trying to get OmniPDF and OmniWeb to run on my NeXTCube, > but since I'm > running NS 3.2 I don't believe I have the Foundation classes which Omni > says are necessary to run their apps. So the questions...how can I get > the foundation classes onto my machine, short of buying a NS 3.3 CD? Is > it possible to get them to run under 3.2? If not what should I do for > PDF viewing and web browsing? > > Thanks in advance...Collin > > ------- > Sorry, I'm tired of junk email, so my reply address is invalid. > clp5@cornell.edu Download and apply the foundation kit user patch. You can download it from NeXT. I did it for a customer that did not want to upgrade to 3.3 (for obvious reasons). It works for 3.2. After applying the patch, you can run the Omni apps. hugob@tamtam.xs4aqll.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: SUBMISSION: sendmail 8.8.5 Message-ID: <E4n5xF.DCz@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <5cb9ap$leo$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 00:41:39 GMT In article <5cb9ap$leo$1@athena.ulaval.ca> antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) writes: > Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> wrote: > ... > % Finally, a decent up-to-date sendmail for NEXTSTEP! This latest > % version is compiled for multiple architectures (NeXT m68k, Intel x86, > % HP PA-RISC, Sun SPARC), supports NetInfo, NIS, smrsh (sendmail > ... > % I recommend that you pick up a copy of the O'Reilly and Associates > % book on sendmail before using this version of sendmail. Furthermore, > % the installation and use of this software is entirely at your own > % risk. Read the README notice for more details. > > Hello, > > Could someone comment on those "risks", and on the advantages of > replacing NeXT's sendmail ? > > Thanks! > If you are happy with your current version of sendmail, skip the remainder and forget about upgrading. If you are not, buy the O'Reilly book (as suggested by the original poster). This book is a comprehensive nutshell introduction to sendmail. It is about 800 pages... If you are at about page 200, you should understand why playing with sendmail can be risky. In case you are curious: I started playing with sendmail after finishing page 100. Until now I did not recover from different versions of sendmail using different versions of sendmail.cf, different versions of the uucp environment, and different versions of sendmail using flat files, netinfo and/or the Unix db database system. Unix haters will love this, but there is no alternative. Sendmail is administrators heaven, if compared with M$ Exchange :-) (although my Exchange survival guide is 780 pages only). hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl .
From: mrgoat@primenet.om (Mr_Goat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: wanted to buy: Openstep/intel Date: 27 Jan 1997 01:05:05 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <32ec611e.1439708@news.primenet.com> If anyone has this for sale, please email me at mrgoat@primenet.com, thanks! Grant Schenk
From: mrgoat@primenet.om (Mr_Goat) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: wanted to buy: Openstep/intel Date: 27 Jan 1997 01:44:02 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <32ec6a24.3749784@news.primenet.com> References: <32ec611e.1439708@news.primenet.com> Please forgive that last post as I am new to NeXT stuff, the product I wanted was not Openstep it is NeXTSTEP/Intel. Thanks. Grant
From: notmy@address.org (Collin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WriteNow & Floppies Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:41:50 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Sender: clp5@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <notmy-2701971441500001@cu-dialup-1005.cit.cornell.edu> Hello all, I have a copy of WriteNow v2 for NeXT, but it is on floppy and since my system is an upgraded NeXT Computer it only has an OD. I'd like to get this onto my system, but I'm at a loss for how to do it. Here are some ideas... 1. Does the NeXTCube use any sort of standard floppy drive? In other words, can I pull one out of my Mac or PC and plug it into the NeXT to get this app loaded? It's seems to be only an 1.44MB disk not a 2.88. 2. Would anyone be willing to mail me a copy of WriteNow? I have all the documentation, serial numbers, and even the box as proof of purchase. I can scan anything and send it off as proof or answer trivia (what's the 3rd word on the 3rd page of the manual). 3. Is there anyone out there at Cornell that has a NeXT with a floppy drive who would be willing to let me use it for a moment to ftp the disk to myself? 4. Can you get a Mac or PC to read NeXT floppies. (I doubt it, but it's worth a shot) Any other solutions? I'm not really looking to buy a floppy right now (no space in the Cube and no money in the pocket), but any other suggestions would be helpful. Collin ------- Sorry, I'm tired of junk email, so my reply address is invalid. clp5@cornell.edu
From: Gregory Pacholczyk <gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTD: TIPTOP comms software Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 16:18:07 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <32EBCA0E.34FA@gl.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: gpacho1 I need tip top communications software for NS 3.2 Black. -Greg
From: fh@crosslink.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help:can't compile Samba.. Date: 27 Jan 1997 21:37:51 GMT Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Message-ID: <5cj77f$i29$1@kronos.crosslink.net> NNTP-Posting-User: fh I've had misery trying to compile samba-1.9.16p9 and was wondering if anyone has got it going... It apparently doesn't like the linker... I tried replacing it using the GNU linker but in gnu's binutils, it doesn't like i386-next3.x as a target so I couldn't create a gnu ld.. Is the problem with the linker at all? Here's the output from make: # make Using CFLAGS = -O -DSMBLOGFILE="/usr/local/samba/var/log.smb" -DNMBLOGFILE="/usr/local/samba/var/log.nmb" -DCONFIGFILE="/usr/local/samba/lib/smb.conf" -DLMHOSTSFILE="/usr/local/samba/lib/lmhosts" -DLOCKDIR="/usr/local/samba/var/locks" -DSMBRUN="/usr/local/samba/bin/smbrun" -DWORKGROUP="WORKGROUP" -DGUEST_ACCOUNT="nobody" -DNEXT3_0 -arch i386 Using LIBS = Compiling server.c Compiling predict.c [ snip... ] Compiling uid.c Linking smbd ld: Undefined symbols: _waitpid make: *** [smbd] Error 1 # Thanks in advance for advice... -- Ted --- \ o / _ o __| \ / |__ o _ \ o / o | /\ __\o \o | o/ o/__ /\ | /|\ ../.\...|.\../).|....(.\../o\../.)....|..(\../.|.../.\.../.\. Ted Okada <ted@fh.org> | http://www.fh.org/ Director | gopher://gopher.fh.org Washington D.C. Bureau | ftp://ftp.fh.org Food For The Hungry | ytalk:fh@shell.crosslink.net ---
From: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca (Seamus Dunne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need Shakespeare FTP'd Date: 27 Jan 1997 04:58:16 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5chcl8$br$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Would there be anyone out there who will FTP me some Shakespeare files, the Sonnets and Poems, bundled on early releases of NextStep. These came with complete Shakespeare. I accidentally trashed my 'Sonnets ....' files; I do have the rest of the Shkspre intact. Thank you Seamus -- If I can't die happily-- I'd rather not die at all. Anon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: restore Boot sector after installing Win95 Message-ID: <E4oA2q.1Gx@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <E4DKCv.J8M@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:08:50 GMT In article <E4DKCv.J8M@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> liu@earth.seas.ucla.edu (W. Liu) writes: > I have two patitions on my hard diak for both DOS and NeXT. > Recently I upgraded the Win3.1 to Win95. And I found the boot sector was also modified automatically. Anyone knows how I could still have the choice to go either Win95 or NeXT at the very beginning of booting? > Certainly I don't want to re-install NeXT stuff once again. > Thanks in advance. > Win95 replaces the bootsector of your harddisk with its own automatically during setup (as you have already seen). All you have to do is to boot NextStep and bring the NextStep boot loader back into place. In order to boot NextStep open MS-DOS window under Win95 and start fdisk. Go to the active partition (or similar) window and activate the NON-DOS (=NextStep) partition. Save the changes and reboot. You'll be taken directly to the NextStep boot prompt. Boot NextStep and log in as root. Open a shell window using /NextApps/Terminal.app and execute disk -b /dev/RAW_DEVICE, where RAW_DEVICE is your boot disk, for example /dev/rsd0h. This will write the NextStep boot loader into the boot block of your harddisk. Reboot your machine and you'll be asked to boot either DOS(=Win95) or NextStep. If you don't choose one within a few seconds, the one whose partition is acitivated will be loaded automatically. Hope this helps, Robert. ========================================================================== Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ==========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: HELP! User account keeps quitting... Message-ID: <E4oAGr.1I9@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5c7510$mdk$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:17:15 GMT In article <5c7510$mdk$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca (Seamus Dunne) writes: > PROBLEM: When I login as user, the usual, expected things happen: dock > appears Desktop seems to build, THEN the color wheel (or beach ball, if > you prefer) spins for a few seconds and THEN the machine quits, reverting > back to the login box-----again and again. > > However, if I login as root everything is OK. I've created yet another > user account, no problems, then logged out and tried logging in as the > new user, but to no avail. Same story as the 1st user. Also I've > inspected the all of the "dot-files (like .NeXT). Nothing seems to be > out of order. Tried changing their names temporarily (to .33Appinfo from > .Appinfo, for example), [after making a copy of these, for safety > reasons]. Still no dice. > > Any suggestions? Thank you in advance... answer here or my email: > dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca Seamus > > > > -- > If I can't die happily-- > I'd rather not die at all. > Anon Hi Seamus, one reason could be bad permissions on your root directory. Have a look at your computer's root directory via the Inspector. Everyone should be allowed to do all (read write execute). If this differs, change the permissions (_NOT_ recursively!). Another reason could be that your NextStep system is seriously damaged (very precise, I know, but I'm still not sure what really causes this problem). In this case try reinstalling your system -:((. If you have an idea of another solution, I would appreciate if you informed me (perhaps by email). Robert. -- ========================================================================== == Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ========================================================================== ==
From: royalta@jenike.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WTD: TIPTOP comms software Date: 27 Jan 1997 03:19:25 GMT Organization: Shore.Net/Eco Software, Inc; (info@shore.net) Message-ID: <5ch6rt$qk0@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <32EBCA0E.34FA@gl.umbc.edu> Cc: gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu In <32EBCA0E.34FA@gl.umbc.edu> Gregory Pacholczyk wrote: > I need tip top communications software for NS 3.2 Black. > -Greg >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701261632.LAA03929@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: ef88bac152b716c52f969a688af3024d - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 97 11:32:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Foundation Classes Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: ef88bac152b716c52f969a688af3024d - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: clp5@cornell.edu (Collin) Original Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 21:28:29 -0500 Message-ID: ef88bac152b716c52f969a688af3024d - > I don't believe I have the Foundation classes which Omni > says are necessary to run their apps. So the questions...how can I > get the foundation classes onto my machine, short of buying a NS > 3.3 CD? Is it possible to get them to run under 3.2? If not what > should I do for PDF viewing and web browsing? Get the FoundationUserPatch from NeXTAnswers. It is linked to my NeXT web page, under "other sites" TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: email@end.of.post (Raymond Lutz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 27 Jan 1997 03:22:00 GMT Organization: SPC Message-ID: <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> In-Reply-To: <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> Lets kill this thread before it takes off! [...] complains about Openstep Mach VM inefficiency deleted, keeping only imprecise or incorrect statements about Mach VM: >After swapping files to the disk Nextstep isn't clearing up the >space until the user makes a reboot. growing, growing, growing... NO MORE SPACE ON HARD DRIVE 8^) >The info is somewhere in NeXTAnswers. Indeed, a good primer on virtual memory with nice illustrations can be found at http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1020.htmld/1020.html >I just want the machine to reclaim the swap when an app is shutdown, >how hard can this be for NeXT to fix? Maybe the new Mach kernel >will solve this problem. > The *actual* kernel solves this, just boot with the following option: -reclaimFreedPage YES (I don't know why, but the system default is NO). Ok, ok... I'm joking, But stangely enough I was chatting lately with Avie about precisely that subject... 8^) Here's the real story about Mach VM from no less then the expert! (by the way, if you haven't yet read the TechWire interview, jump to http://techweb1.web.cerf.net/wire/news/0110nextqa.html !) \begin{repost from comp.sys.next.misc, Jun 1994} From: avie@next.com (Avadis Tevanian) Subject: Re: Why does NS require so much Memory? In article <1994Jun5.221433.24748@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: > Oh well... can someone more informed than me *please* take up > this discussion, because I don't have enough knowledge on this > to come to the correct conclusion. Here's the facts on how swapfiles work: For every page in the swapfile, the kernel maintains status telling whether that page is in use or not. When a swapfile it enabled (mach_swapon), it is truncated to lowat and each page is flagged as free. When the page out daemon requests a page to be swapped out, the pager locates the first free page in the swapfile (actually, there is an algorithm to determine which swapfile is used, if more than one is enabled, but I will omit this from the discussion). The first free page is defined as the lowest numbered page. As more and more memory is consumed by processes, higher and higher numbered pages are used. When all pages in the swapfile are in use, and additional page out causes the swapfile to be extended in size. This occurs until hiwat is reached. If hiwat is reached, or if the file system is out of space, the page will be left in memory (unless there is another swapfile enabled that can be used). If the system stays in this state, it will eventually be full of dirty pages which can not be paged out. When this happens, the system comes to a grinding halt as it is forced to use fewer and fewer pages of memory (memory is filled with dirty pages that can not be paged out). Now, it gets interesting when we consider what happens when memory is freed. In particular, when a process exits or calls vm_deallocate, the VM system attempts to free any memory that was associated with the appropriate regions of virtual memory. When memory is shared, it simply makes a note that there is one fewer reference to the shared memory (or copy-on-written memory) and no further action is taken. If this is the last reference to the memory, any corresponding physical pages are freed from main memory and any corresponding pages in the swapfile are tagged as free. A subsequent allocation of page on the swapfile will most definitely reuse this page! When a page is freed, if it is the highest page in the swapfile, the swapfile will be truncated all the way down to the highest page in use (down to lowat). In practice, this happens rarely. The basic problem is that if you have a long running process use a very high number paged (e.g., if the Windowserver allocates a high numbered page) the swapfile will not get truncated until that process exits --- which could be a very long time. When this happens due to a core process (e.g., the nmserver), which cannot be restarted unless the system is rebooted, your swapfile will remain large. Still, there can be lots of free pages in the swapfile file, and rest assured they will be reused! So why don't we compact the swapfile to handle these pages that get allocated at high page numbers? Good question. We've considered doing it many times. However, it has always been considered a quite risky change (how many of YOU have debugged a virtual memory system before) and would need to be done very carefully to ensure correctness and adequate performance. As an example, it would not be acceptable to just start a compaction and cause the system to lock up as the kernel does several megabytes of I/O for the compaction. The relative merits of making this improvement has never outweighted the costs in risk and the opportunity costs of not working on other parts of the system. I'm not saying we'll never do it, I'm just saying we haven't done it yet for some carefully considered reasons. Having said all of this, why do so many people seem to have problems with their swapfiles? Here are some possible explanations: 1) Not everyone realizes just how much memory their apps use. As has been mentioned before, the Windowserver keeps backing store for all the windows (on or off screen). On 16-bit color systems this can be quite large, on 24-bit systems its downright huge! Simple images on the screen can translate into megabytes of storage. Mathematica sessions are notorious for consuming 10's or even 100's of megabytes of VM. 2) Programs occasionally have memory leaks. We work hard to be sure that the software we release does not have leaks. There's a reason we developed MallocDebug! I think we do pretty well, but I'm sure there are some bugs. For example, the Windowserver, with it's printer heritage, has long had problems with correctly managing its memory. On the printers they just "reset" the memory heap for each new job --- we can't do that. If/when the Windowserver leaks we get a double whammy since not only do we leak a small amount of memory, but the Windowserver is a long running process and tends to hog those high numbered pages. I think NEXTSTEP ISV's generally do a good job too, but it only takes one or two apps to leak memory and cause problems. 3) As many of you know, Mach has a quite advanced virtual memory scheme, which NEXTSTEP makes excellent use of. Features like copy-on-write and pageable read/write sharing can cause complex relationships between memory and how it is mapped into one or more processes. There is one known optimization that the kernel does (specifically the coalescing of adjacent memory regions when backing store has not yet been allocated --- for those of you Mach VM literate) which sometimes causes the freeing of some memory to be delayed until a process has exited. The situations when this happens are fairly rare, and worse case the memory is freed when the process exits, but it wouldn't surprise me if this is the cause of isolated problems. I personally think the Mach swapfile solution is quite good. I'm obviously biased though. Sure, there are a few things I think could be improved, but that's true of any piece of software. Overall I think we've made some reasonable trade-offs. I also think swapfile management is fairly bug-free. We know we can improve the situation is (3) above (but it is difficult). Certainly if anyone has any other possible reasons for swapfile growth, especially with concrete examples of programs, let us know so we can investigate! I'd be more than happy to read suggestions others have on improving how swapfiles work. I can't guarantee we'll implement them, but you never know! I hope this sheds a little light on the whole swapfile discussion. Somehow I think it will still continue on --- but hopefully it can be grounded with a few more facts now. Avie \end{repost} -- Raymond Lutz, lutzray@9bit.qc.ca "Les 400 plus fortunes individus de la planete possedent autant que 2.3 MILLIARDS des plus pauvres reunis"
From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: vgrind help? Problem solved! Date: 27 Jan 1997 15:02:05 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5cig1d$bm8@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <5bltdk$ioq@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>?nus` <5cfv2r$lf6@papoose.quick.com> In-Reply-To: <5cfv2r$lf6@papoose.quick.com> Thank you Mr. Quick! Your response solved my vgrind problem. And here I thought big and little endian problems were mostly a thing of the past. Silly me. Randy J On 01/26/97, James E. Quick wrote: >In article <5bltdk$ioq@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, >Randy Jackson <randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu> wrote: >>When I try to use vgrind, I get the following: >> >># vgrind area.cc >>pscat: trouble reading .ct file >>lpr: stdin: empty input file >># >> >> >>What do I need to do to so that vgrind works? > >Ahah . . . You did not mention what architecture or version you >are using but it sounds to me like you are on an intel box. The @?Correct assumption.@ >transcript font files are endian dependant, and I think that they >are compiled bigendian on the CD. What you need to do is rebuild >these fonts. > >This is complicated somewhat by the fact that the script used for >rebuilding includes a configuration script which hardcodes a path >specific to the original source environment, not the installation >environment. > >Try this: >cd /usr/lib/transcript/troff.font > >Modify the script fragment ./config so that: > PSLIBDIR=$REALPSLIBDIR > >Now move the current font directories out of the way since the build >script will not build a new font directory if the old one is in place. > mkdir old > for map in *.map > do $dir=`basename $map .map` > mv $dir old/ > done > >Now that you have moved the old font directories out of the way, >build new ones. > for map in *.map > do $dir=`basename $map .map` > ./addtroff.sh $dir $map > done > >Now if you are satified, you can now delete the old dir. >-- > ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com > / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. >\_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 > ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished. > -- Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o __o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\, _`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> | (*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\, FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu http://www.geography.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jackson/
From: Brian Ward <bward@attila.stevens-tech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Netscape Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:49:25 -0500 Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.94.970127114801.12887A-100000@attila.stevens-tech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any version of netscape that will work with NeXTSTEP? Is there any good webbrowsers?
From: aconti@interaccess.com (Aaron J. Conti) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: miscTableScroll object in the MiscKit Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 10:35:08 PST Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet Service Provider Message-ID: <5cilns$ddn@nntp.interaccess.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 I am trying to use the table scroll from the miscKit. So far, I have used it in a couple different programs. Every time that I have used it so far, it has only been for displaying information. This allows me to fill all of the fields in the table programatically. Now I need to use it to display a list of item and let the user fill in values in the second and third columns. I can't seem to figure out what I am not setting to allow the user to select a single cell as apposed to a row and enter data into the cell. Any information on how to do this (or if it is impossible) would be appreciated. Please respond by e-mail to prichard@isdinc.com. I don't have reqular news access and had to borrow somebody else's account for this. Peter Richardson prichard@isdinc.com
From: Charles Wiles <charles@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 27 Jan 1997 16:45:19 GMT Organization: Physics Teaching Course, Oxford Message-ID: <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> Whilst interesting to read again what Avie Tevanian himself had to say about NeXTSTEP's swapping methodology, it only explains why NeXTSTEP can be prone to thrashing, rather than offer any solutions. Personally, I've always thought that swap _partitions_ should be supported too (as they are in most other Unixes: dedicated swapdisks aren't always feasible). Its O-O nature and sophisticated GUI features make NeXSTEP intrinsically memory-hungry and I think this is a genuine issue which needs urgent attention from the NeXT/Apple engineers. My reason for cross-posting to the Linux development group [apologies to Linux people for dropping such a long posting on you out of the blue], is that it might be beneficial for Avie et al to discuss swapping strategies with some of the Linux kernel experts, who are more likely than most to have worked out a novel, highly efficient solution to this problem. At the end of his posting, Avie says he would be "more than happy to read suggestions others have on improving how swapfiles work". regards, charles ____________________________________________________________________________ Charles Wiles, Unix/NeXT Systems Manager, Physics Practical Course Dept of Physics NAPL, University of Oxford, Keble Rd, OXFORD OX1 3RH, UK Raymond Lutz <lutzray@9bit.qc.ca> wrote: > Lets kill this thread before it takes off! > > [...] complains about Openstep Mach VM inefficiency deleted, keeping > only imprecise or incorrect statements about Mach VM: > > >After swapping files to the disk Nextstep isn't clearing up the > >space until the user makes a reboot. > > growing, growing, growing... NO MORE SPACE ON HARD DRIVE > > 8^) > > >The info is somewhere in NeXTAnswers. > > Indeed, a good primer on virtual memory with nice illustrations can be > found at > > http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1020.htmld/1020.html > > >I just want the machine to reclaim the swap when an app is shutdown, > >how hard can this be for NeXT to fix? Maybe the new Mach kernel > >will solve this problem. > > > > The *actual* kernel solves this, just boot with the following option: > > -reclaimFreedPage YES > > (I don't know why, but the system default is NO). > > Ok, ok... I'm joking, > > But stangely enough I was chatting lately with Avie about precisely > that subject... 8^) Here's the real story about Mach VM from no less > then the expert! > > (by the way, if you haven't yet read the TechWire interview, jump to > http://techweb1.web.cerf.net/wire/news/0110nextqa.html !) > > > \begin{repost from comp.sys.next.misc, Jun 1994} > > From: avie@next.com (Avadis Tevanian) > Subject: Re: Why does NS require so much Memory? > > In article <1994Jun5.221433.24748@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> > samurai@cs.mcgill.ca > (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes: > > Oh well... can someone more informed than me *please* take up > > this discussion, because I don't have enough knowledge on this > > to come to the correct conclusion. > > Here's the facts on how swapfiles work: > > For every page in the swapfile, the kernel maintains status telling > whether that page is in use or not. When a swapfile it enabled > (mach_swapon), it is truncated to lowat and each page is flagged > as free. When the page out daemon requests a page to be swapped > out, the pager locates the first free page in the swapfile (actually, > there is an algorithm to determine which swapfile is used, if more > than one is enabled, but I will omit this from the discussion). > The first free page is defined as the lowest numbered page. As > more and more memory is consumed by processes, higher and higher > numbered pages are used. When all pages in the swapfile are in > use, and additional page out causes the swapfile to be extended in > size. This occurs until hiwat is reached. If hiwat is reached, > or if the file system is out of space, the page will be left in > memory (unless there is another swapfile enabled that can be used). > If the system stays in this state, it will eventually be full of > dirty pages which can not be paged out. When this happens, the > system comes to a grinding halt as it is forced to use fewer and > fewer pages of memory (memory is filled with dirty pages that can > not be paged out). > > Now, it gets interesting when we consider what happens when memory > is freed. In particular, when a process exits or calls vm_deallocate, > the VM system attempts to free any memory that was associated with > the appropriate regions of virtual memory. When memory is shared, > it simply makes a note that there is one fewer reference to the > shared memory (or copy-on-written memory) and no further action is > taken. If this is the last reference to the memory, any corresponding > physical pages are freed from main memory and any corresponding > pages in the swapfile are tagged as free. A subsequent allocation > of page on the swapfile will most definitely reuse this page! > > When a page is freed, if it is the highest page in the swapfile, > the swapfile will be truncated all the way down to the highest page > in use (down to lowat). In practice, this happens rarely. The > basic problem is that if you have a long running process use a very > high number paged (e.g., if the Windowserver allocates a high > numbered page) the swapfile will not get truncated until that > process exits --- which could be a very long time. When this > happens due to a core process (e.g., the nmserver), which cannot > be restarted unless the system is rebooted, your swapfile will > remain large. Still, there can be lots of free pages in the swapfile > file, and rest assured they will be reused! > > So why don't we compact the swapfile to handle these pages that > get allocated at high page numbers? Good question. We've considered > doing it many times. However, it has always been considered a > quite risky change (how many of YOU have debugged a virtual memory > system before) and would need to be done very carefully to ensure > correctness and adequate performance. As an example, it would not > be acceptable to just start a compaction and cause the system to > lock up as the kernel does several megabytes of I/O for the > compaction. The relative merits of making this improvement has > never outweighted the costs in risk and the opportunity costs of > not working on other parts of the system. I'm not saying we'll > never do it, I'm just saying we haven't done it yet for some > carefully considered reasons. > > Having said all of this, why do so many people seem to have problems > with their swapfiles? Here are some possible explanations: > > 1) Not everyone realizes just how much memory their apps use. As > has been mentioned before, the Windowserver keeps backing store > for all the windows (on or off screen). On 16-bit color systems > this can be quite large, on 24-bit systems its downright huge! > Simple images on the screen can translate into megabytes of storage. > Mathematica sessions are notorious for consuming 10's or even 100's > of megabytes of VM. > > 2) Programs occasionally have memory leaks. We work hard to be > sure that the software we release does not have leaks. There's a > reason we developed MallocDebug! I think we do pretty well, but > I'm sure there are some bugs. For example, the Windowserver, with > it's printer heritage, has long had problems with correctly managing > its memory. On the printers they just "reset" the memory heap for > each new job --- we can't do that. If/when the Windowserver leaks > we get a double whammy since not only do we leak a small amount of > memory, but the Windowserver is a long running process and tends > to hog those high numbered pages. I think NEXTSTEP ISV's generally > do a good job too, but it only takes one or two apps to leak memory > and cause problems. > > 3) As many of you know, Mach has a quite advanced virtual memory > scheme, which NEXTSTEP makes excellent use of. Features like > copy-on-write and pageable read/write sharing can cause complex > relationships between memory and how it is mapped into one or more > processes. There is one known optimization that the kernel does > (specifically the coalescing of adjacent memory regions when backing > store has not yet been allocated --- for those of you Mach VM > literate) which sometimes causes the freeing of some memory to be > delayed until a process has exited. The situations when this > happens are fairly rare, and worse case the memory is freed when > the process exits, but it wouldn't surprise me if this is the cause > of isolated problems. > > I personally think the Mach swapfile solution is quite good. I'm > obviously biased though. Sure, there are a few things I think > could be improved, but that's true of any piece of software. > Overall I think we've made some reasonable trade-offs. I also > think swapfile management is fairly bug-free. We know we can > improve the situation is (3) above (but it is difficult). Certainly > if anyone has any other possible reasons for swapfile growth, > especially with concrete examples of programs, let us know so we > can investigate! > > I'd be more than happy to read suggestions others have on improving > how swapfiles work. I can't guarantee we'll implement them, but > you never know! > > I hope this sheds a little light on the whole swapfile discussion. > Somehow I think it will still continue on --- but hopefully it can > be grounded with a few more facts now. > > Avie > > \end{repost} > > -- > Raymond Lutz, lutzray@9bit.qc.ca "Les 400 plus fortunes individus de la planete possedent autant que 2.3 MILLIARDS des plus pauvres reunis"
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PointCast with SoftPC 4.1 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:57:22 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E4oCBn.Jq8@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <854194250.22260@dejanews.com> In article <854194250.22260@dejanews.com> Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE writes: > Hi, > > Did somebody run PointCast within SoftPC 4.1 ? > NetScape 3.0-16 with Java and IE3 runs fine in SoftPC, but PointCast can't connect. > Any ideas ? I'd guess it's using UDP packets. There is a bug in 4.1 relating to UDP packets - get 4.1p1. If that doesn't help 4.1p1001 is a major overhaul of the socket code which has numerous fixes in (though it might introduce more - no promises with these patches). I'd recomend getting p1, then maybe trying p1001. These should be available from ftp.insignia.com. $an Unfortunatly the fix was to remove some code which sped up DOS handling (I spent about a week trying to find a better way :-(). Windows apps should be fine, and DOS running by itself should be fine, but DOS inside windows a bit sluggish. If this isn't the case, then I'll need more info. If this is important to you, you could try 4.0 (or even hassle insignia to make you a 4.1 with the iret hooks hack back in the keyboard handler!), but be carefull about alt-tab. $an
From: rog@ohm.york.ac.uk (Roger Peppe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: brk and sbrk Date: 27 Jan 1997 17:35:46 GMT Organization: Department of Electronics, University of York, UK. Message-ID: <5cip1j$aln@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <5c7pr0$4e6@crcnis3.unl.edu> On 23 Jan 1997 13:41:51 GMT, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote: > I'm involved in a software porting venture... the software at hand uses the > functions brk and sbrk. The NEXTSTEP man pages say these functions are not > supported. Are there any other functions available to provide similar > functionality? they might not be documented, but they are still there. if you're not worried about portability to non-mach-based openstep platforms, then i'd just go ahead and use them in the same way as usual. rog.
From: afaschin@woodstock.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Anton Fasching) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: help:can't compile Samba.. Date: 28 Jan 1997 08:22:20 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <5ckcvs$7i8@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <5cj77f$i29$1@kronos.crosslink.net> > # make > Using CFLAGS = -O -DSMBLOGFILE="/usr/local/samba/var/log.smb" > -DNMBLOGFILE="/usr/local/samba/var/log.nmb" > -DCONFIGFILE="/usr/local/samba/lib/smb.conf" > -DLMHOSTSFILE="/usr/local/samba/lib/lmhosts" -DLOCKDIR="/usr/local/samba/var/locks" > -DSMBRUN="/usr/local/samba/bin/smbrun" -DWORKGROUP="WORKGROUP" > -DGUEST_ACCOUNT="nobody" -DNEXT3_0 -arch i386 > Using LIBS = > Compiling server.c > Compiling predict.c > [ snip... ] > Compiling uid.c > Linking smbd > ld: Undefined symbols: > _waitpid > make: *** [smbd] Error 1 > # Hello, i have the same problem, here is my makefile and the result: My Hardware is a NeXTstation Turbo: Prozessor 33 MHz 68040 Memory 32 MB Systemversion 3.3 This are my flags # This is for NEXTSTEP Release 3.0 and greater (including OPENSTEP for Mach). # contributed by brad@cac.washington.edu (Brad Greer) # additional configuration by pmarcos@next.com (Paul Marcos) # For compiling n-way fat executables, you should append the appropriat -arch # flags to the FLAGSM variable. Valid flags are: # -arch m68k # -arch i386 # -arch hppa # -arch sparc # To compile 4-way fat, you would append # -arch m68k -arch i386 -arch hppa -arch sparc FLAGSM = -DNEXT3_0 -arch m68k LIBSM = And here is the output after the make commando ....... Compiling password.c Compiling quotas.c Compiling uid.c Linking smbd ld: Undefined symbols: _waitpid *** Exit 1 Stop. Thanks, -- Anton Fasching PST Informatik Tel :. 089/2178-2179 http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~afaschin/
From: notmy@address.org (Collin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WriteNow & Floppies Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:24:05 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Sender: clp5@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <notmy-2801970124060001@cu-dialup-1212.cit.cornell.edu> References: <notmy-2701971441500001@cu-dialup-1005.cit.cornell.edu> Hello all, A kind soul has helped me get WriteNow on my machine so I don't need any more help with that. Thanks for the responses... Collin ------- Sorry, I'm tired of junk email, so my reply address is invalid. clp5@cornell.edu
From: "Richard G. Markle" <prujdmis@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need help with NS 3.2 Install Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:11:56 -0800 Organization: The Prudential * Jon Douglas Co. Message-ID: <32ED0C0C.6D58@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the following configuration: 486/DX4-120 AMD 32MB RAM 1.2 GIG EIDE SoundBlaster 16 ATI MACH 64 w/ 2MB of VRAM I would like to install 3.2 User on this system. Is there any way to do so? I have tried but I always get a kernel panic. Also, will NS 3.2 User run in a satisfactory way on this system? Please post response to NG or e-mail rmarkle@earthlink.net. Thanks in advance.
From: togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:18:04 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) wrote: >> This is oh so true. I've got two 68K MOT instruction set manuals. One >> calls the processor a 16 bit unit, the other proudly announces it as >> an advanced 32 bit processor (SAME processor part number). One manual >> was before Apple literature described the 68K as a 32 bit processor, >> the other after - connection? This reminds me of the transistor count >> game that was played with transistor radios. I once disassembled a >> 14-transistor Radio Shack radio. 2 of the transistors were wired and >> used as diodes, 4 had ALL THREE leads soldered together and tacked >> here and there on the PCB. So, what I really had was an 8 transistor >> radio and 2 of those had little if any effect on performance. It's ALL >> in the marketing.... > > Bogus. Hey, I didn't write the manuals. If you think it's bogus, talk to MOT! The fact is, the timing of the manuals was just as I described. Looks like a clear attempt at impressing newbies. Unfortunately, for MOT, newbies and end users rarely order instruction set manuals. However, the point wasn't entirely lost as Apple had good time with it. > Fact is all 68K's offer a unified 32-bit programmer model, for pointers >and integers. True, the original 68000 had a 16-bit external data bus and >only 24 bits of physical address bus, but this is also why we call Pentium >and Pentium Pro "32 bit processors" and not 64 bits: it's commonly accepted >to look at the ALU word width or address space size as the "bitness" of a >processor. > Hardly. It MAY have been commonly accepted in the past - long past by computer standards. Now-a-days, you'd better explain just what you mean. My HP-48GX *calculator* has a 64-bit ALU. > You attribute malice or deception to simple confusion in literature and >terminology. The fact remains that flat 32-bit code could be and was >written on the 68000 from the very beginning, lots of it, this was and is a >benefit to its users. > This is an example what maketing does best. There was no confusion in the literature. MOT knew exactly what they were doing. I don't think malice or deception fits here. The programmers know what's going on and that's what counts. I'm surprised someone didn't add up all register bits and go with that figure. > If you don't believe me, why not pop over to comp.arch and ask some >folks around there whether they think the 68K family qualifies as a 32-bit >processor design, or if Moto tried to deceive anyone by promoting it as >such. > I don't give a hoot what comp.arch thinks about the 68K. I was pointing out what MOT, the manufacturer, said about.
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP! User account keeps quitting... Date: 28 Jan 1997 06:32:00 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5ck6h0$5p3@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <E4oAGr.1I9@onevision.de> I've seen this behavior. Check the following: 1. Check that the directory is owned by the user. chown -R <username> </directory_to_change> 2. Workspace must be SUID root for logins to occur. Restore fails to do this. terra:1# cd /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app terra:1#/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app: chmod u+rws Workspace In article <E4oAGr.1I9@onevision.de> robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) writes: >In article <5c7510$mdk$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca (Seamus >Dunne) writes: >> PROBLEM: When I login as user, the usual, expected things happen: dock >> appears Desktop seems to build, THEN the color wheel (or beach ball, >if >> you prefer) spins for a few seconds and THEN the machine quits, >reverting >> back to the login box-----again and again. >> >> However, if I login as root everything is OK. I've created yet another >> user account, no problems, then logged out and tried logging in as the >> new user, but to no avail. Same story as the 1st user. Also I've >> inspected the all of the "dot-files (like .NeXT). Nothing seems to be >> out of order. Tried changing their names temporarily (to .33Appinfo >from >> .Appinfo, for example), [after making a copy of these, for safety >> reasons]. Still no dice. >> >> Any suggestions? Thank you in advance... answer here or my email: >> dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca Seamus >> snip >Hi Seamus, >one reason could be bad permissions on your root directory. Have a look at >your computer's root directory via the Inspector. Everyone should be >allowed to do all (read write execute). If this differs, change the >permissions (_NOT_ recursively!). >Another reason could be that your NextStep system is seriously damaged >(very precise, I know, but I'm still not sure what really causes this >problem). In this case try reinstalling your system -:((. >If you have an idea of another solution, I would appreciate if you >informed me (perhaps by email). > >Robert. > >-- snip -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: daugher@cs.tamu.edu (Walter C. Daugherity) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Video Logic GrafixStar 450 on NSI? Date: 27 Jan 1997 22:33:48 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Message-ID: <5cjagc$mho@news.tamu.edu> Has anyone successfully used the Video Logic GrafixStar 450 on NeXTSTEP-Intel? It was highly rated by BYTE magazine and uses the S3 ViRGE chipset. There is a generic S3 ViRGE driver (NeXTanswer 2166) but I would appreciate any info from someone who's actually tried it. E-mail and post replies, please. Thanks, Walter C. Daugherity Dept. of Computer Science E-mail: daugher@tamu.edu Texas A & M University http://www.cs.tamu.edu/faculty/daugher/ College Station, TX 77843-3112 ---Not an official document of Texas A&M--- -- Walter C. Daugherity Dept. of Computer Science E-mail: daugher@tamu.edu Texas A & M University http://www.cs.tamu.edu/faculty/daugher/ College Station, TX 77843-3112 ---Not an official document of Texas A&M---
From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: latex2e for NextStep Date: 27 Jan 1997 22:12:49 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5cj991$h60@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi all, what is the best latex2e package for Openstep? and which one is easiest for installing? thanks, khanh
From: Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Rhaspody == NT, Rhaspody + System 7 compatibility == Windows 95 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:46:56 -0800 Organization: Western Washington University Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970127104001.4739B-100000-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> References: <32D88E6F.7C1B@prodigy.net> <19970121084457374235@pm-lx-2-10.net.ip.pt> <5c631g$14f@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5c631g$14f@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> On 22 Jan 1997, William Raphael Hix wrote: > However, there is one strong reason for releasing a reduced version, cost. > Apple will have trouble selling its users an $800 OS, as NeXT has done. > Mac customers already scream about $100 OS costs. While the initial > targets; enterprise, publishing, multimedia, and technical, are less cost > conscious, with Win NT worksation around $250, $200-$300 is as high as > Apple can go, even initially. One way around this would be a $100 basic OS > with basic functionality, intended for most current Mac users, with an > add-on to give it full OpenStep compatibility and/or Unix compatibility > for a few hundres more $. couldn't disagree with you more. $800 for Rap would be outragious, but no more than selling a $100 crippled os! ONE OS ONE PRICE!!!! This is the key to selling macs to both enterprise and home markets! Check out how violenty the enterprise market responded to Microsoft's attempts to segregate NT as server/non-server versions.... Apple _must_ releas Rap at no more than $100. If they make the developers kit a low cost add on to the user price, hopefully that will bee seen as an olive branch to those who have felt jilted in the past. RL > Raph >
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:58:52 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Distribution: inet Message-ID: <E4pvy5.4Ey@micmac.com> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <E2uL81.16F@micmac.com> <32c0162f.14922692@news.sover.net> <jhsterne-ya023280002412961838040001@news.earthlink.net> <E4D5BA.4F1@micmac.com> <jhsterne-ya02408000R2101972141330001@news.mindspring.com> <E4HLxC.1pG@micmac.com> <kroger-2501971200550001@softmachine.psych.ucla.edu> Cc: kroger@ucla.edu This was written in comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep (<kroger-2501971200550001@softmachine.psych.ucla.edu>) by kroger@ucla.edu: > Not invited to comment? Not invited to comment? You post on usenet for > millions to see and you say somebody was not invited to comment? How big > an idiot can somebody be? This was obviously ironic since you were absolutely unable to understand what was the point! In another time (250 years ago...) this would have been an invitation to my people for a bastinado... =;) But we are more civilized now: I'm sending the bumpkin (you) to the oubliette (my kill file)... mc
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Macintosh, Steve Jobs, and Next Step are all back! Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:42:57 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Distribution: inet Message-ID: <E4pv7M.4Bu@micmac.com> References: <32BB734D.167F@netcom.ca> <AEE1AB21-14A94@199.35.216.52> <32bcb04d.34390634@news.sover.net> <E2tMvF.5Mo@micmac.com> <32bde91c.35158999@news.sover.net> <E2uL81.16F@micmac.com> <32c0162f.14922692@news.sover.net> <jhsterne-ya023280002412961838040001@news.earthlink.net> <E4D5BA.4F1@micmac.com> <jhsterne-ya02408000R2101972141330001@news.mindspring.com> <E4HLxC.1pG@micmac.com> <kroger-2501971200550001@softmachine.psych.ucla.edu> Cc: kroger@ucla.edu This was written in comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep (<kroger-2501971200550001@softmachine.psych.ucla.edu>) by kroger@ucla.edu: > I don't know what your argument was about (nor do I care) Funny! > but I don't like > to miss a chance to tell an idiot what an idiot he is. So you're obviously the idiot here! mc
From: gary@dspn.com (Gary Burchfield II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Compaq DOS v3.x Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 03:25:59 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Message-ID: <32ed718e.5882460@news.cris.com> I am trying to find a copy of Compaq DOS v3.x. Does anyone know where I can get a copy? Thanks Gary Burchfield II Gary@dspn.com
From: djb1@dee02.stir.ac.uk (Donald John Baird) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GUI for gnutar -ztvf file.tar.gz ? Date: 28 Jan 1997 14:30:04 GMT Organization: University of Stirling Message-ID: <5cl2hc$6nr@lorne.stir.ac.uk> References: c2ab5c115ce7705a2be557696f0122bb - <199701241434.JAA10388@nerc.com> Opener.app can open tar.gz files and much more besides... In Europe, it's available at the Peanuts site: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/archiver/Opener.3.3.NIH S.b.tar.gz Cheers Donald -- Donald Baird phone : +44-1786-467926 Environment Group fax : +44-1786-472133 Institute of Aquaculture email : djb1@stir.ac.uk University of Stirling web : http://dee02.stir.ac.uk Scotland FK9 4LA
From: Patrick Giagnocavo <support@xinside.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Video Logic GrafixStar 450 on NSI? Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:18:00 -0700 Organization: X Inside Inc Message-ID: <32ED8C08.41C67EA6@xinside.com> References: <5cjagc$mho@news.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Walter C. Daugherity" <daugher@cs.tamu.edu> Walter C. Daugherity wrote: > > Has anyone successfully used the Video Logic GrafixStar 450 on NeXTSTEP-Intel? > It was highly rated by BYTE magazine and uses the S3 ViRGE chipset. There is > a generic S3 ViRGE driver (NeXTanswer 2166) but I would appreciate any info > from someone who's actually tried it. E-mail and post replies, please. > > Thanks, Well, If you ever happen to have a look at the board, you will notice that there is basically one chip, the ViRGE chip, which has both the graphics accelerator and the RAMDAC on-board. There is really no way to modify it of course, so you are probably safe. The speed of the board will be due more to the maturity of the driver. My guess is that a Matrox Millenium will outperform a ViRGE, especially since the driver for the Matrox has been out longer (I assume that it has been tweaked :-) by now). Also the Millenium is better designed IMHO. When I was working for a NEXTSTEP reseller (OSI) our customers preferred the Matrox over virtually anything else. Cordially -- Patrick Giagnocavo - patrick@xinside.com Xi Graphics - Accelerated X Servers Technical Support Department
From: HisMajesty <fatjelly@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 07:23:42 +0800 Organization: The WatchTower Message-ID: <32DC157E.1730@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bcske$5ps@news.platinum.com> <5be75u$jsg@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5bedv8$es2@news.platinum.com> <32DBBE9E.1DA3@exnext.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jonathan W. Hendry wrote: > > > > What's wrong with matte black, anyway? It's good enough for every > > > cool piece of electronics on the planet _except_ computers, isn't > > it? > > > > I want black, too. > > I wouldn't be surprised if Power Computing could be persuaded > to do a line of black machines. They seem pretty hip. I believe they have somewhere where one can input suggestions via email. Though black would be cool, Power Computing's machine design doesn't look attractive. Of all the Macs, perhaps Apple can make the nicest looking black boxes.
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Adobe Bravo Message-ID: <8D0E511.09B80000FA.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 21:37:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Considering Apple's rumored consideration of using Adobe's Bravo display model for the upcoming Rhapsody OS, I thought that some here might find this article of interest: ### A new graphical infrastructure for the Web. (Adobe Bravo) 07/01/96 Advanced Imaging A first detailed look at the new, much-anticipated Post-Script-derived model designed to revolutionize World Wide Web imaging Today's Web-based application and content developers find their creativity limited by the lack of a comprehensive, integrated imaging model that allows them to publish high-quality graphics without compromising the quality of theft design. Imaging models resident in popular operating systems simply don't provide the graphics capabilities advanced users demand. In addition, developers who want to reach the widest possible audience must create several versions of their application, each tailored to a different platform, which adds to the time and expense required to introduce new products. As the popularity of the World Wide Web has skyrocketed, the demand from users for applications that make Web publishing faster and simpler has gone largely unfulfilled. Users want to "re-purpose" documents created for print into Web documents with the same look and feel. They also want a Web browser that enables them to view, save and print graphically rich pages with the greatest possible quality. In addition to providing that functionality, the browser must be compatible with the bewildering array of software and hardware in use by people accessing the Web. At Adobe Systems, we have now used our experience in creating industry- standard, device-independent PostScript software and our expertise as the industry leader in two-dimensional imaging to develop a solution to these problems. Code-named "Bravo," this solution is a portable, highly efficient imaging model designed to revolutionize the process of delivering graphically rich applications and content for the World Wide Web. Incorporating advanced graphics and type functionality, Bravo solves compatibility problems, facilitates application development and Web publishing, and offers optimum performance and quality to both developers and users. BRAVO: DEFINED Bravo is an imaging framework that is independent of the underlying operating system. Via a unified API (Application Programming Interface), Bravo provides access to advanced imaging capabilities such as true color images (the full 16.8 million colors) with transparency, scalable PostScript line-art, and text that can be anti-aliased on the fly to eliminate "jaggies. " Also, text support in Bravo is not tied to any specific font technology - applications can work interchangeably with Type 1, Type 1 multiple master, TrueType, and other type technologies including the recently announced "OpenType" specification. In addition, the printing architecture for Bravo is optimized for professional graphics and publishing applications, directly generating PostScript language commands, which improves the quality and speed of printing for complex graphics. And because Bravo is derived from the device- independent PostScript imaging model, users are ensured of high-fidelity correspondence between the screen and the printed page. BROAD EARLY ACCEPTANCE Recognizing that Bravo will provide even greater benefits as an Internet standard, Adobe has established partnerships with key vendors developing enabling technologies and products for the Internet. JavaSoft, an operating company of Sun Microsystems Inc., has already announced that it intends to license the Bravo imaging model. JavaSoft plans to incorporate Bravo into a future implementation of the Java platform. Bravo will be included with Java as the first implementation of the collaboratively developed 2-D specification in the JavaMedia family of APIs, which allow Java developers to produce highly interactive, extensible, dynamic network programs with rich media. And Sun has licensed Java to other leading vendors, including Netscape, Oracle and Microsoft. All see the addition of Bravo technology as the imaging model for Java as providing a rich, portable environment for the next generation of Web publishing. For consumers, Adobe Bravo will enable broad availability of graphically rich, Web-based applications that will deliver a higher-quality visual experience when viewing, interacting with, or printing information from the Web. Already a proven technology, Adobe Bravo is broadly used now in a number of existing Adobe applications including Adobe Photoshop, Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Acrobat and Adobe Premiere, and PostScript software. Adobe intends to further incorporate the technology in future versions of its products as new releases are developed. As has been announced, Bravo Imaging will also be the basis for entirely new desktop and Web applications - the first of which will be a new interactive authoring tool from Adobe, code-named "Vertigo." Vertigo will enable content developers and Web publishers to easily combine high-fidelity graphical media with sound and video to produce more visually compelling network and CD-ROM-based titles. AS PART OF INTERNET STRATEGY Bravo is part of Adobe's comprehensive strategy for making the Web a more effective and visual communications medium. That three-part strategy includes: * Delivering cutting-edge media authoring tools, which include applications for document authoring, professional design and layout, creating and managing Web sites, maintaining the look and feel of desktop documents and high-end video authoring and animation. * Expanding capabilities for improving Internet printing and information distribution via new tools such as Adobe PrintMill, a new intranet printing solution that enables users to identify and print to any printing device across a network. * Driving and supporting graphics standards on the Internet including existing standards such as HTML, GIF and Java. Adobe's goal is to raise the quality of Internet graphics by working with partners to establish new standards based on proven Adobe technologies. Planned enhancements include type extensions that improve browser quality, Embedded Portable Document Format (EPDF) capabilities that enable users to place rich graphics in any Web document or application and Adobe Bravo. POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPERS Bravo is designed to revolutionize the process of delivering graphically rich applications and content for the Web. Specifically, it enables developers of Internet-based applications to: * Create applications more quickly because it virtually eliminates the need to write platform-specific display or print code for multiple product versions. * Improve the speed and quality of printing complex graphics on Adobe PostScript and PrintGear devices. * Port applications more quickly to new platforms, shortening time-to- market. * Offer users "one-button Save As PDF" functionality. Users will be able to convert a document into an Adobe PDF (Portable Document Format) file that can be incorporated into Web pages simply by using the "Save As PDF" feature. For users of Internet applications, Bravo provides the means to view, save and print pages with the greatest possible quality and fidelity. It enhances the user's experience by significantly increasing the quality and richness of graphical and typographic content on the Web. Specifically, it benefits users by enabling them to: * Create, view, save and print Web documents that take full advantage of the power of the PostScript language. Such graphics can be more sophisticated than graphics created using such currently popular formats as GIF and JPEG. PDF files in particular are richer, more flexible HTML objects than files in the commonly used GIF format. * Print and distribute PDF files quickly and easily. KEY CHARACTERISTICS We believe Bravo is a superior imaging model for developers and users because it is: * Complete: Bravo enables users to view and print anywhere, generates universal metafiles and images both vector and raster graphics. * Portable: Developers can write an application once, and its display and print code will run on multiple operating systems and hardware architectures. The Bravo API gives applications a uniform structure for working with graphics and type on any platform and on the Web. * Lightweight: Bravo comprises only a few hundred kilobytes of code, far less than other embeddable imaging technologies. * Self-contained: Bravo is not tied to a specific operating system, as QuickDraw is tied to the Apple operating system and GDI is tied to Microsoft Windows. * Unified: Bravo is a unified API for displaying, saving, replaying and printing documents. Developers and users need not be concerned with what imaging device an application is using because the Bravo API formats data correctly for each device. * Proven: Bravo is already an integral part of key Adobe applications and is based on the standard imaging technology in the professional publishing world - the PostScript language and PostScript software. GRAPHICS FEATURES Bravo supports all the powerful interactive graphics capabilities of the PostScript imaging model. (In contrast, other imaging models such as QuickDraw and GDI do not yet support such basic PostScript features as matrix transformations, or more advanced features such as patterns and device- independent color.) Applications can use the Bravo graphics API to: * Construct a path consisting of a set of connected and disconnected points, lines and Bezier curves that describe the appearance of graphical shapes. * Set up the current path as a clipping path. * Specify the color for a painting operation using a range of values, indices and gradient formulas. * Perform any combination of linear transformations on graphical objects such as translation, scaling, rotation, reflection and skewing. * Treat a text character as a graphical shape and use it as a clipping path, paint it or transform it. * Collect graphical objects, characters and images to be painted multiple times into a display list cache. TEXT/TYPOGRAPHY FEATURES As I've noted, text support in Bravo is not tied to any specific font technology. Applications can interchangeably work with Type 1, Type 1 multiple master, TrueType and the new "OpenType" technology recently announced by Adobe and Microsoft. Open Type is a universal font format that will combine TrueType and Type 1 font technologies to streamline management of existing fonts and provide a font format to handle the next generation of type for personal computers and the Internet. To ensure portability and optimized performance, Bravo text support does not rely on native operating system services. The smooth integration of text and graphics in Bravo makes it easy for applications to treat text as a sequence of characters or as a sequence of graphical objects. Applications can use the Bravo text support API to: * Enumerate available fonts installed in the system. * Query font attributes in order to perform sophisticated typographical layouts. * Compose text according to user-specified requirements for exact placement of characters and line breaks. * Render fonts with precision control into calculated placement positions on the page in a range of formats, including character bitmaps, PDF, PCL and PostScript font encodings. * Improve results of low-resolution Type 1 font rendering using Bravo's anti-aliasing technology which produces more accurate character bitmaps. * Adjust the typographical parameters of Type 1 multiple master fonts to generate custom characters. * Format text properly in any language supported by roman and Asian fonts. * Manage font subsets embedded in documents. PRINTING FEATURES Bravo's printing architecture is optimized for professional graphics and publishing applications which, before the introduction of Bravo, directly generated PostScript language commands. Bravo does that for them, thereby improving the quality and speed of Adobe PostScript printing for complex graphics. Bravo also provides optimized printing to PCL, GDI, QuickDraw and Adobe PrintGear printers, as well as other printing devices. Applications can use Bravo printing services to: * Print to any printer using a consistent API. * Generate PDF files that users can view or print on any computer with Adobe Acrobat technology, without the original application or fonts used to create the original document. * Generate EPDF (Encapsulated Portable Document Format) metafiles that applications can import for display and interactive updating. * Print legacy EPS (Encapsulated PostScript) files and other metafiles. * Take advantage of the best driver technology available through Bravo support for existing printer drivers and an API that makes it easy to integrate new printer drivers. AVAILABILITY AND SUPPORT Adobe is already working with such key partners such as Netscape, Sun and Oracle to incorporate Bravo into their applications. Bravo will be the imaging model in Sun's Java operating environment and will be included with future releases of Netscape Navigator. 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From: Brian Sutherland <rmaniac.deleteme@onramp.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What's happened to Lighthouse? Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:53:59 -0600 Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <32ED23F7.85D@onramp.net> References: <5cb04h$67d@idiom.com> <19970125232500.SAA21030@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: WillAdams <willadams@aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > > I would like to ask however, along a similar vein if anyone knows if their > wonderful academic pricing has survived the purchase by Sun? > > I've been thinking of purchasing WetPaint and OpenWrite from them. > > The Academic pages were a bit tattered the last time I checked. > > William > > William Adams > > Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. I purchased the Academic bundle from Lighthouse just about a month ago. just $99 as usuall. I went ahead and got it because I was afrid they would stop selling it. Call them I bet it is still there. -Brian bcs@onramp.net
From: Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTStep 3.3 + Qmail - Kill the evil sendmail Date: 27 Jan 1997 23:00:55 -0800 Organization: DataSphere Sender: mycroft@chrome.datasphere.net Message-ID: <x7oheab7x4.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> For anyone out there still running sendmail, you would be MUCH happier from a security perspective, by switching to qmail. Now that my Cube is finally back in working order, I did some thorough testing, and qmail 0.96 runs just fine under NS3.3. Someone (probably *not* me =] ) will need to figure out how to make Mail.app NOT look for $SPOOLDIR/$USER and look for JUST $SPOOLDIR, or whatever. Shouldn't be too hard, I imagine. .mycroft -- [:]====================================================================[:] [\] Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> >>>>>[DataSphere]<<<<< [=] [=] Key fingerprint = DD B1 A7 D9 2D DF A0 F7 23 C2 6B EC 5A AD 01 A9 [\] [:]====================================================================[:]
From: Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 + Qmail - Kill the evil sendmail Date: 27 Jan 1997 23:16:19 -0800 Organization: DataSphere Sender: mycroft@chrome.datasphere.net Message-ID: <x7n2tub77g.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> References: <x7oheab7x4.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Btw- ln -s ~user/Mailbox /usr/spool/mail/user will work as a temporary fix, of course. It's just messy =] .mycroft -- [:]====================================================================[:] [\] Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> >>>>>[DataSphere]<<<<< [=] [=] Key fingerprint = DD B1 A7 D9 2D DF A0 F7 23 C2 6B EC 5A AD 01 A9 [\] [:]====================================================================[:]
From: Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Duh...URL to qmail info site =] Date: 27 Jan 1997 23:27:06 -0800 Organization: DataSphere Sender: mycroft@chrome.datasphere.net Message-ID: <x7lo9eb6ph.fsf_-_@chrome.datasphere.net> References: <x7oheab7x4.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> <x7n2tub77g.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Well, you can tell *I'm* tired =] http://www.qmail.org/ .mycroft -- [:]====================================================================[:] [\] Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> >>>>>[DataSphere]<<<<< [=] [=] Key fingerprint = DD B1 A7 D9 2D DF A0 F7 23 C2 6B EC 5A AD 01 A9 [\] [:]====================================================================[:]
From: ekotan@next.com (Eren Kotan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone running NT and OS 4.1 on same drive? Date: 28 Jan 1997 08:57:55 GMT Organization: NeXT Software UK Limited Message-ID: <5ckf2j$q91@news.next.com> References: <5cb1bj$5hq$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Cc: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com In <5cb1bj$5hq$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com wrote: > I'm going to be running Windows NT 4.0 and OPENSTEP 4.1 on the same 2GB SCSI > drive. Each op sys will be given a gig partition. Does anyone have any > experience doing this? Anything I should know? Hi, I am running NT4.0, OPENSTEP 4.1, Windoze 95(sic) and Linux on the same drive. It is possible, but requires some thought on how partitions should be arranged. Anyway, if you're only planning to use NT and OPENSTEP, the easiest thing to do is: WARNING: THESE INSTRUCTIONS WILL WIPE YOUR DATA ON THE HARD DISK, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE CAUSED, ETC. - Boot your PC with a DOS disk containing fdisk and create 1 FAT partition for NT, with size as desired. Leave the rest of the disk as free space. - Reboot and install NT on your freshly created FAT partition. When install offers the choice, you may want to convert this FAT partition into NTFS, if you wish. Note that if you do, you won't be able to see it under OPENSTEP. If you leave it as FAT, you will. On the other hand, NTFS is more robust + has extra features, so it's your choice. You can always convert a FAT partition to NTFS later after NT is installed and running, but not vice-versa. - Once NT is installed, you're ready to start the OPENSTEP installation. When asked, choose to use the free space on the disk for OPENSTEP. Install will then create an OPENSTEP partition using the free space and proceed to copy the files. Once install is complete, OPENSTEP booter will have been installed, so you'll be able to choose which OS to boot into at startup. Good luck. END DISCLAIMER: NO ANIMALS HAVE BEEN HARMED DURING THE PREPARATION OF THIS USENET POST Regards, Eren -- Eren Kotan NeXT Software (UK) Limited oh, one moment, it's Apple now The best friend money can buy ObjectLine Support WWW: http://www.next.com/
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: latex2e for NextStep Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:28:46 +0100 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <32EDC6CE.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5cj991$h60@news.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Khanh P. Nguyen wrote: > > Hi all, > what is the best latex2e package for Openstep? and which one is easiest > for installing? Have a look at Gregor's TeX-Page: http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX/ Thanks to Gregor Hoffleit and Thomas Esser ! -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701271601.LAA08154@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: c1f148bfbdeae4c11bc4c9ee7a507b57 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 11:01:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: c1f148bfbdeae4c11bc4c9ee7a507b57 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (Guenther Bauer) Original Date: 26 Jan 1997 14:44:24 GMT > Who else is complaining about the way Nextstep handles the > swapspace on disk? After swapping files to the disk Nextstep isn't > clearing up the space until the user makes a reboot. That is > somehow stupid if you don't have much RAM and if you are working > with large files. This is a wellknown problem with no real solution other than more RAM more diskspace use a swapdisk All of which simply delay the inevitable. > Is there a way to compensate this bad handling with e.g. a patch? No, but you can make it better. Checkout my swapfaq at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/swapfaq.ps or goto http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ and select "Swap FAQ" TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fuguen@paris.fdn.fr (Francois UGUEN) Subject: PapyrusForms Message-ID: <E4q1Dy.16L@paris.fdn.fr> Sender: news@paris.fdn.fr Organization: Individual - PARIS - Francois UGUEN Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:56:22 GMT Hello, I'm looking for the soft PapyrusForms from Ensuing Technologies, can you help me? Thanks, -- Francois UGUEN NeXT-mail : fuguen@paris.fdn.fr
From: Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: another cool thing about Colorizer.bundle for Mail.app Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 01:01:27 +0100 Organization: Warty Wolfs Message-ID: <9701280001.AA02025@basil.icce.rug.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.1mach v148) In article <199701241442.JAA10457@nerc.com>, Timothy Luoma wrote: > When you open a .mbox, the thread that you were last reading is > still highlighted. This is very useful if you have to close up a > mailbox and then you are trying to find your place later on. As in, to let procmail + appnmail kick in? :-) This trick doesn't seem to work with Mail.app 4.1mach though. Otherwise a damn fine cup o^H^H^H^H^H bundle, especially after you've toned down the garish default colorscheme :-p. (Except that EnhanceMail's online help is nowhere to be found in Mail's help panel anymore, but that is probably EMs own fault...) > Note: although the name implies that you need a color machine (and > I'm sure that wouldn't be bad) it is usable on a mono machine, > especially the thread-marking. > > Colorizer is available at > > http://www.next.com:80/~eseymour/Colorizer/Welcome.html > > and > > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/Colorizer.1.5.NIHS.b.tar.gz > > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/Colorizer.1.5.README -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "Any magic sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable __/ _/_/ from a perl script" -- Larry Wall, mangled
From: "Brent B. Powers Swaps Programmer x2293" <powers@ml.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 28 Jan 1997 17:55:42 -0500 Organization: Merrill Lynch Sender: powers@swapsdvlp02 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <u02wwsxbea9.fsf@ml.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John Stevens) writes: > In article <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL>, > Drs G. C. Th. Wierda <G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl> wrote: > >>So you agree that the original IBM PC was an 8-bit machine? And some > >>80386-based machines were 16-bit? > > > >Here is my recollection for what it is worth. > > > >I would say that the original 8088 was a 16-bit processor. > > Externally, it has/had an 8 bit bus that, > according to rumor, was for "backwards" compatibility and > to save money, since at that time 16 bit hardware was the *NEW* thing > and was therefore more expensive than 8 bit hardware. > > >The 8086 was the 16bit data path version, I would say the 'normal chip' for > >that series, as the 8088 was the 'constrained chip'. > > Yup. There were a few brave souls who manafactured 8086 (and even > 80186) based boards. Yes Virginia, there *was* and 80186 chip! > > >The 80286 and the 80386 are generally the same 32bit chip. > > Uh, no. (As Lord Blaine taught us. . .) That turns out no to be the > case. The 80826 was vastly different from the 80386. Examples: > the ability to have a flat memory space (segments *GONE*, whee!) and > much different virtual memory support. > > The flat memory model was, in fact, the talk of the town at that time. > > >Except that the > >80286 had a couple of errors (like switching between real and protected mode) > >that were solved in the 80386. The 80386 came in both a constrained version > >(16bit data path, the SX types) and a 'normal' version (32bit data path). > > Yup. I still know people who own and use '386sx boxes. > > >Between the 80386 and the 80486, there is a big difference. The 80386 was a > >mess. Intel (smartly) distilled a RISC-like core from the 80386 and put the > >other backwards compatibility stuff in an emulation on the chip. A floating > >point part was added. > > Yah, but Intel released some versions of the '486 without FP capabilities. > > Best guess: during test the FP Coprocessors didn't work correctly, so > they disabled 'em, packaged 'em any way and sold 'em for low end (cheap) > systems. Ummm, didn't the 486sx have a different pinout? That would argue against this. The FP Coprocessor is a relatively expensive piece of silicon, so they would have had reason to drop it for cost-savings. > > >The m68k processor, as far as I know, was 32bit from the start, but came in > >'constrained versions'. I think the original 68000 had a 16bit data path. > >There even exists an m68k which has an 8bit data path). > > The 68008. Which was used in a late model Sinclair computer, the > color one (can't for the life of me remember whether is was called > the Rainbow, or some other kitschy "color" name). > > >I don't know exactly what the advantages were of a smaller data path, but I > >would guess it meant cheaper memory. > > Cheaper parts. Yup. And at that time, the 68000 didn't have any > virtual memory capabilities, or memory protection (hence the reason the > Amiga didn't have memory protection designed into the OS). > > The 68010 was introduced to support on-chip VM, but still required, if > I remember correctly, an extermal MMU chip. > > John S. -- Brent B. Powers Merrill Lynch powers@ml.com
From: carol1@apple.com (Andrew Carol) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:52:13 -0800 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <carol1-1801971152140001@17.219.103.153> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net> In article <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net>, togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) wrote: > Hardly. It MAY have been commonly accepted in the past - long past by > computer standards. Now-a-days, you'd better explain just what you > mean. My HP-48GX *calculator* has a 64-bit ALU. I belive that the Saturn chip developed by HP is a 4 bit CPU with a 4 bit ALU. The model exposed to the RPN programmer may be 64 bits, but the internal hardware is only 4 bits at a time. I've seen assembly code for this littel machine and it's rather tedious. Power consumption is a real issue. Why do in 64 parallel bits what can be cycled through 4 bits with lots less power? -- Andrew Carol carol1@apple.com I do not speak for Apple. All opinions are my own.
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 28 Jan 1997 09:02:42 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5ckfbi$2mj@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> email@end.of.post (Raymond Lutz) wrote: > Lets kill this thread before it takes off! Unlikely. Too many people have too many observations which are significant, made worse by the fact that many people think that their own observations prove that everyone else's observations are wrong. > someone else wrote: > > I just want the machine to reclaim the swap when an app is > > shutdown, how hard can this be for NeXT to fix? Maybe the new > > Mach kernel will solve this problem. There is at least one swapping-related bug which is (most likely) fixed in the new kernel and which is (probably) not fixed in the NS-4.1 kernel. I know it wasn't fixed in the NS-3.3 kernel, and I don't think that was changed for NS-4.x. The bug, however, requires a fairly obscure sequence of things happening. It nails me big-time, due to some things I run on my NeXTstation, but I doubt it effects many other people. > (by the way, if you haven't yet read the TechWire interview, jump > to http://techweb1.web.cerf.net/wire/news/0110nextqa.html !) This is a very useful article, where Avie talks about NeXTSTEP, Rhapsody, and the priorities of various projects. It's from January 10th, so some of it might be outdated by now... :-) It's probably the most informative and understandable interview from anyone at Apple since the merger announcement. > Here's the real story about Mach VM from no less then the expert! > \begin{repost from comp.sys.next.misc, Jun 1994} While Avie's technical explanation is both useful and informative, several people do have experiences which suggest that there is some behavior which is not explained by his expectations. Cliff Matthews (I think that's his name, the guy at ARDI) at one time had a pretty good test program which sure seemed to prove that something else was up. I believe that was in the 1994 timeframe too, and I don't remember anyone from NeXT following up on it. I doubt Avie spends a lot of his time reading usenet articles... Also, there is a fairly simple programming mistake one can make under NeXTSTEP with mapped files. If you make this mistake, you end up with the file stuck in memory until the system is rebooted. One of the very first versions of OmniImage had this bug, and it wouldn't surprise me too much if other things did too. The reason it's easy to make this error is that the documentation for one of the routines (NXMapFile?) doesn't include a pointer to the routine you should use with it instead of NXClose(). OmniImage was fixed a long time ago, but I often wonder if some people are running into this same bug in other applications. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 28 Jan 1997 08:43:59 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5cke8f$2mj@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> Charles Wiles <charles@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> wrote: > Whilst interesting to read again what Avie Tevanian himself had > to say about NeXTSTEP's swapping methodology, it only explains > why NeXTSTEP can be prone to thrashing, rather than offer any > solutions. Personally, I've always thought that swap _partitions_ > should be supported too (as they are in most other Unixes: > dedicated swapdisks aren't always feasible). Just a note: What NeXTSTEP calls a "swapdisk" is not really a whole disk dedicated to a swapfile. If you name something a swapdisk, the rc.swap code will do some special processing which made sense 5 years ago (in the days of smaller disks), but which is pretty moronic today (in the days of 2 gig disks). Still, every time I mention this someone tells me how brilliant swapdisks are. The concept is fine, the implementation under NeXTSTEP could be improved. All that said, what NeXTSTEP pages to is always a unix file. You can have "swap partitions", the only annoyance is that you have to do it yourself. You have to figure out the entries for /etc/swaptab and /etc/fstab such that you get what you want. There really isn't that much too it, if you're used to doing "unixy" things. You can have multiple swapfiles, and each one of those can be on a different partition. My own experience indicates that you probably get the best results with just two swapfiles, where you mark one of them as "prefer"ed (with a hiwat value), and then have the second one on a different partition, and marked "nocompress" (I believe you can only have one compressed swapfile). Make the hiwat for the first one under 208meg. Somewhere around 208meg the "compress" function stops compressing, and your swapfile gets much larger even though it's not holding any more vm. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701281854.NAA05159@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 5f4195ddfe488ef651694b37ba4c3aa6 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 13:53:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Netscape Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 5f4195ddfe488ef651694b37ba4c3aa6 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Brian Ward <bward@attila.stevens-tech.edu> Original Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:49:25 -0500 Message-ID: 5f4195ddfe488ef651694b37ba4c3aa6 - > Is there any version of netscape that will work with NeXTSTEP? no > Is there any good webbrowsers? yes. (OmniWeb and NetSurfer) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: epp@energotec.de (Ralf Eppink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: S3 Generic Date: 28 Jan 1997 12:05:12 GMT Organization: Tech Net GmbH Message-ID: <5ckq1o$ao61@ddfservb.technet.net> Hi all, is there anybody how works successfully with a S3 generic video card under NextStep 3.3 for Intel ? i have some problems with the present driver 1736 (boot down). Thank You
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.graphics.rendering.renderman,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: App for SpaceJam? Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:44:07 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32E2F810.4529@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <32E1761C.7000@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric A. Dubiel wrote: > > Anyone remember what that app was called that created 3D in SpaceJam on > NEXTSTEP, and the URL? It was Animo. http://www.animo.com YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board written by Korean)
From: "Brent B. Powers Swaps Programmer x2293" <powers@ml.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 28 Jan 1997 17:56:35 -0500 Organization: Merrill Lynch Sender: powers@swapsdvlp02 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <u02vi8hbe8s.fsf@ml.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John Stevens) writes: > In article <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL>, > Drs G. C. Th. Wierda <G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl> wrote: > >>So you agree that the original IBM PC was an 8-bit machine? And some > >>80386-based machines were 16-bit? > > > >Here is my recollection for what it is worth. > > > >I would say that the original 8088 was a 16-bit processor. > > Externally, it has/had an 8 bit bus that, > according to rumor, was for "backwards" compatibility and > to save money, since at that time 16 bit hardware was the *NEW* thing > and was therefore more expensive than 8 bit hardware. > > >The 8086 was the 16bit data path version, I would say the 'normal chip' for > >that series, as the 8088 was the 'constrained chip'. > > Yup. There were a few brave souls who manafactured 8086 (and even > 80186) based boards. Yes Virginia, there *was* and 80186 chip! > > >The 80286 and the 80386 are generally the same 32bit chip. > > Uh, no. (As Lord Blaine taught us. . .) That turns out no to be the > case. The 80826 was vastly different from the 80386. Examples: > the ability to have a flat memory space (segments *GONE*, whee!) and > much different virtual memory support. > > The flat memory model was, in fact, the talk of the town at that time. > > >Except that the > >80286 had a couple of errors (like switching between real and protected mode) > >that were solved in the 80386. The 80386 came in both a constrained version > >(16bit data path, the SX types) and a 'normal' version (32bit data path). > > Yup. I still know people who own and use '386sx boxes. > > >Between the 80386 and the 80486, there is a big difference. The 80386 was a > >mess. Intel (smartly) distilled a RISC-like core from the 80386 and put the > >other backwards compatibility stuff in an emulation on the chip. A floating > >point part was added. > > Yah, but Intel released some versions of the '486 without FP capabilities. > > Best guess: during test the FP Coprocessors didn't work correctly, so > they disabled 'em, packaged 'em any way and sold 'em for low end (cheap) > systems. Ummm, didn't the 486sx have a different pinout? That would argue against this. The FP Coprocessor is a relatively expensive piece of silicon, so they would have had reason to drop it for cost-savings. > > >The m68k processor, as far as I know, was 32bit from the start, but came in > >'constrained versions'. I think the original 68000 had a 16bit data path. > >There even exists an m68k which has an 8bit data path). > > The 68008. Which was used in a late model Sinclair computer, the > color one (can't for the life of me remember whether is was called > the Rainbow, or some other kitschy "color" name). > > >I don't know exactly what the advantages were of a smaller data path, but I > >would guess it meant cheaper memory. > > Cheaper parts. Yup. And at that time, the 68000 didn't have any > virtual memory capabilities, or memory protection (hence the reason the > Amiga didn't have memory protection designed into the OS). > > The 68010 was introduced to support on-chip VM, but still required, if > I remember correctly, an extermal MMU chip. > > John S. -- Brent B. Powers Merrill Lynch powers@ml.com
From: "Keith L. Swallow" <swallow@oar.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: TCL for NeXT (HELP) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:27:09 -0500 Organization: OARnet Message-ID: <32EEA76D.41C67EA6@oar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: swallow@oar.net Hello all, I need to find a copy of tcl or instructions for installing tcl 7.6 on a next with nextmach 1.0 .. I know its old... But it is what I have to work with. SO any assistance would be gratfully appreciated. Please just reply to this by mailing me : swallow@oar.net Also sorry for cross posting... I wanted to hit everybody that might be able to help... thanks again... -Sincerly Keith Lee Swallow Thanks again... --
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 28 Jan 97 09:45:20 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan28094520@slave.one.net> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> In-reply-to: Charles Wiles's message of 27 Jan 1997 16:45:19 GMT In article <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk>, Charles Wiles <charles@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> writes: My reason for cross-posting to the Linux development group [apologies to Linux people for dropping such a long posting on you out of the blue], is that it might be beneficial for Avie et al to discuss swapping strategies with some of the Linux kernel experts, who are more likely than most to have worked out a novel, highly efficient solution to this problem. Unfortunately, as alluded to in the posted article, the problem isn't so much knowing what they want to do as being willing to disrupt things to get it done. Linux has a novel approach to this - make the change in an already potentially unstable release, and let lots of people test it. NeXT doesn't have quite as much latitude, here, as they won't be able to use as many testers, and can't afford to release an imperfect version. [Hey, don't gripe at me, I _agree_ that free software makes things easier.] > \begin{repost from comp.sys.next.misc, Jun 1994} > > From: avie@next.com (Avadis Tevanian) > Subject: Re: Why does NS require so much Memory? <...> > So why don't we compact the swapfile to handle these pages that > get allocated at high page numbers? Good question. We've > considered doing it many times. However, it has always been > considered a quite risky change (how many of YOU have debugged a > virtual memory system before) and would need to be done very > carefully to ensure correctness and adequate performance. As an > example, it would not be acceptable to just start a compaction > and cause the system to lock up as the kernel does several > megabytes of I/O for the compaction. On The One Hand: A decent enough means of handling this would be to force high-numbered pages back into memory (at worst, by referencing them), mark them dirty, and then clear the indicator of where that page belongs in the swapfile. Then when memory is needed, it can push the page out to a low-numbered area. I'm not saying this is easy, but it shouldn't be hard (even in kernel mode). It's not a very good solution, though, as it results in swapfile fragmentation. On The Other Hand: If your processes are using a lot of memory, there's no room to be paging in pages which you don't need just to compact the swapfile. _But_, if your options are "Crash the system and wait a minute or two for a reboot" or "lock the system up for a minute or two while it does the compaction", well, which would you rather have? [Hint: compaction would let you keep running your currect programs, rebooting would potentially lose some work.] The Real Problem: is that, as Avie explained, if there is free space in the swapfile, it will be used. In theory, your system should just continue operating at a reduced capacity (due to seeking all over heck to access pieces of the swapfile). In other words, there must be something else going on that's locking those pages so that they can't be re-used. Running an extremely VM-intensive process and then not getting your disk space back is one thing. Progressively losing disk space to the swapfile over the course of days is an entirely different problem. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
From: Eric Doenges <doenges@lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 29 Jan 97 11:38:10 GMT Organization: Lehrstuhl fuer Prozessrechner, TU Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: inet Message-ID: <doenges.854537890@lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <u02vi8hbe8s.fsf@ml.com> Originator: doenges@nelion.lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de "Brent B. Powers Swaps Programmer x2293" <powers@ml.com> writes: >Ummm, didn't the 486sx have a different pinout? That would argue >against this. The FP Coprocessor is a relatively expensive piece of >silicon, so they would have had reason to drop it for cost-savings. But a different pinout does not necessarily mean a different chip. Many processors are availible in PGA and QFP packages with different pinouts, but identical silicon inside. I remeber reading at the time of the 486sx, that the 486sx was a normal 486 with the FPU disabled. The whole thing had nothing to do with technology, but with marketing. (Remeber, this was the time the AMD386 came out, and Intel did not want to loose their high margins on 486s. So they came up with the 486sx, which was priced to compete with the 40 MHz AMD386.). Later modell 486sx may have had different silicon, but the first generation 486sx were 80486 with the FPU disabled. The 80487sx was a complete 486 with the FPU enabled - if you plugged one of those in your 486sx system, the whole 486sx was disabled. -- Eric Doenges EMail:<doenges@lpr.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> "You don't have to swim faster than the shark, just faster than the guy next to you" - anonymous
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:31:27 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <5brivv$h9k@news.grolier.fr> References: <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit jones.948@osu.edu (Steve Jones) wrote: >I was just curious, did next have the "recycle bin" before Win95 came out? Everything came before Win95. M$ is only copying other compagnies. The world was not created on august 1995 ! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:28:30 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32e14540.11376132@news.sover.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net> <carol1-1801971152140001@17.219.103.153> carol1@apple.com (Andrew Carol) wrote: >In article <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net>, togar@msn.com (Lance Togar) wrote: > >> Hardly. It MAY have been commonly accepted in the past - long past by >> computer standards. Now-a-days, you'd better explain just what you >> mean. My HP-48GX *calculator* has a 64-bit ALU. > >I belive that the Saturn chip developed by HP is a 4 bit CPU with >a 4 bit ALU. > >The model exposed to the RPN programmer may be 64 bits, but >the internal hardware is only 4 bits at a time. I've seen >assembly code for this littel machine and it's rather tedious. > >Power consumption is a real issue. Why do in 64 parallel bits >what can be cycled through 4 bits with lots less power? > The Saturn has a real 64-bit ALU while the internal/external data path is 4-bits. No doubt, the assembly code you've seen involves moving 4-bit "fields" in/out of the ALU. Many people consider assembly code tedious whatever the processor. Certainly, floating point operations with an integer ALU can be less than fun! The 64-bit ALU makes perfect sense when you consider that the CPU was specifically designed for floating point operations. As such, the ALU can hold the entire binary representation of a floating point number (mantissa and exponent). RPN programmers are generally unaware of CPU bit size because RPN deals with named variables that may contain one or more of a large variety of objects with floating point numbers being just one in the list. All of the Saturn CPU registers are static CMOS so I've missed your point concerning power consumption. BTW, with the 48GX, I can have the answers to some really heavy math problems before most PCs get the mouse cursor on the screen :). A lot cheaper to buy and run too not to mention that it fits in a coat pocket.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701271604.LAA08180@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 80f77d934cc4416cad9c1d906013048a - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 97 11:04:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! References: 80f77d934cc4416cad9c1d906013048a - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: email@end.of.post (Raymond Lutz) Original Date: 27 Jan 1997 03:22:00 GMT Message-ID: 80f77d934cc4416cad9c1d906013048a - > The *actual* kernel solves this, just boot with the following > option: > > -reclaimFreedPage YES > > (I don't know why, but the system default is NO). > > Ok, ok... I'm joking, Not funny Raymond, not funny at all Well.... maybe a little funny color me "got" TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John Stevens) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 28 Jan 1997 11:18:39 -0700 Organization: Verinet Communications Message-ID: <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> In article <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL>, Drs G. C. Th. Wierda <G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl> wrote: >>So you agree that the original IBM PC was an 8-bit machine? And some >>80386-based machines were 16-bit? > >Here is my recollection for what it is worth. > >I would say that the original 8088 was a 16-bit processor. Externally, it has/had an 8 bit bus that, according to rumor, was for "backwards" compatibility and to save money, since at that time 16 bit hardware was the *NEW* thing and was therefore more expensive than 8 bit hardware. >The 8086 was the 16bit data path version, I would say the 'normal chip' for >that series, as the 8088 was the 'constrained chip'. Yup. There were a few brave souls who manafactured 8086 (and even 80186) based boards. Yes Virginia, there *was* and 80186 chip! >The 80286 and the 80386 are generally the same 32bit chip. Uh, no. (As Lord Blaine taught us. . .) That turns out no to be the case. The 80826 was vastly different from the 80386. Examples: the ability to have a flat memory space (segments *GONE*, whee!) and much different virtual memory support. The flat memory model was, in fact, the talk of the town at that time. >Except that the >80286 had a couple of errors (like switching between real and protected mode) >that were solved in the 80386. The 80386 came in both a constrained version >(16bit data path, the SX types) and a 'normal' version (32bit data path). Yup. I still know people who own and use '386sx boxes. >Between the 80386 and the 80486, there is a big difference. The 80386 was a >mess. Intel (smartly) distilled a RISC-like core from the 80386 and put the >other backwards compatibility stuff in an emulation on the chip. A floating >point part was added. Yah, but Intel released some versions of the '486 without FP capabilities. Best guess: during test the FP Coprocessors didn't work correctly, so they disabled 'em, packaged 'em any way and sold 'em for low end (cheap) systems. >The m68k processor, as far as I know, was 32bit from the start, but came in >'constrained versions'. I think the original 68000 had a 16bit data path. >There even exists an m68k which has an 8bit data path). The 68008. Which was used in a late model Sinclair computer, the color one (can't for the life of me remember whether is was called the Rainbow, or some other kitschy "color" name). >I don't know exactly what the advantages were of a smaller data path, but I >would guess it meant cheaper memory. Cheaper parts. Yup. And at that time, the 68000 didn't have any virtual memory capabilities, or memory protection (hence the reason the Amiga didn't have memory protection designed into the OS). The 68010 was introduced to support on-chip VM, but still required, if I remember correctly, an extermal MMU chip. John S.
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS Dec Quiz results, new Jan/Feb Quiz started Date: 29 Jan 1997 09:17:26 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5cn4j6$k5r@peng.ping.at> The SSS Christmas Quiz has ended - already two weeks ago, sorry for the delay - and the winners are drawn. Plus: the new January/February Quiz has started NOW! (finally...) For Dec results as well as for the new Jan/Feb quiz question, please visit http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/quiz.html Deadline for the new quiz is February 27. As always, the winners will receive a free HelpViewer *or* LatinByrd license, or, alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software (including SuperDraw, SuperDebugger, and others). Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: Dayne Miller <dayne@wolfenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody wishlist (forget the UI, this stuff is important) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:45:42 -0800 Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C. Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970118152847.4306A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970112175002.15531A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> <5bdapi$39p@portal.gmu.edu> <5bp3rk$nj1@news.platinum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5bp3rk$nj1@news.platinum.com> On 18 Jan 1997, Gary W. Longsine wrote: > I was pretty stunned when I saw this tidbit about NT, too. I was hoping > someone else would gripe about it, so I didn't have to. Thanks. No network? > Really guys... if it was anybody other than MicroSoft they would have been > laughed out of the evaluation. For those of you running NT, there's a "C2 Configuration Utility" that ships with the NT Resource Kit. It gives a whole list of all the options that need to be configured to meet the criteria under which NT qualified -- you can check off which you want to enable (in other words, you might want to become "more secure" without necessarily worrying about meeting the letter of the certification criteria). Anyway, it's worth checking out, and very instructional. What's interesting to note is that I've heard many program/product managers at MS claim that IIS is a "C2 Secure Web Server" or that Exchange "meets C2 requirements". None of them has been able to tell me how either IIS or Exchange is even remotely useful without a network... > On most UNIX platforms, including NeXTSTEP, C2 level security can be achieved > (with or without help from the vendor) by configuration. I've never heard of > disabling the network or floppy as part of that configuration, though dial-up > connections (into the C2 machine) are often prohibited. It may be that to be > certified, the vendor must supply some documentation as to how that > configuration is done, etc. I believe that NEXTSTEP needs better logging capability on individual files, etc. Also, ACLs would help (though offhand I don't remember if they're required). Haven't actually read the Orange Book requirements in a long while (thanks for the URL, Gary). -Dayne Miller dayne@wolfenet.com daynem@excell.com
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.1 - Typing problem Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:16:39 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E4rons.64H@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <5cm2ni$hk5$1@newsserver.dircon.co.uk> In article <5cm2ni$hk5$1@newsserver.dircon.co.uk> barton@doggy.dircon.co.uk (Barton Friedland) writes: > No, it seems to happen in DOS mode as well. I am using version 4.1. What machine are you using, and how fast are you typing? Ordinary DOS propmt was fine when I used it (though maybe a little slow). Windows was fast. Only DOS in Windows (full screen) was really a problem, and that was just about OK on a P60, though unsuitable for fast typing. If this isn't the case then perhaps you've found a different bug. > It did not used to happen. Very upsetting. 4.0 is much faster in responding to the keyboard. Unfortunatly the side effect is that it crashes! I figured it would annoy some people, but stability was more important. $an
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701281904.OAA05277@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: f95e76a9d4260b20e81bffdf1bc69714 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 14:04:26 -0500 Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: f95e76a9d4260b20e81bffdf1bc69714 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Original Date: 28 Jan 1997 08:43:59 GMT > What NeXTSTEP calls a "swapdisk" is not really a whole disk > dedicated to a swapfile. If you name something a swapdisk, the > rc.swap code will do some special processing which made sense 5 > years ago (in the days of smaller disks), but which is pretty > moronic today (in the days of 2 gig disks). Still, every time I > mention this someone tells me how brilliant swapdisks are. The > concept is fine, the implementation under NeXTSTEP could be > improved. That's true. I've done what I can to make it easier, and made a copy of my 'rc.swap' file available. Send me (luomat@peak.org) an email with the SUBJECT send-mome rc.swap or goto http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/rc.swap TjL ps -- you can't just plug my copy in, but it should be simple enough to edit my rc.swap to make the "swapdisk" performance make more sense given the size of today's drives. -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701281900.OAA05249@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 1cbdda54d921e07c870232131136c8d9 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 14:00:27 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 + Qmail - Kill the evil sendmail Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 1cbdda54d921e07c870232131136c8d9 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> Original Date: 27 Jan 1997 23:00:55 -0800 Message-ID: 1cbdda54d921e07c870232131136c8d9 - > Someone (probably *not* me =] ) will need to figure out how to > make Mail.app NOT look for $SPOOLDIR/$USER and look for JUST > $SPOOLDIR, or whatever. Shouldn't be too hard, I imagine. What do you mean look for $SPOOLDIR ? /usr/spool/mail/ should always exist, right? I don't know anything about how Qmail works.... if you let me know what you mean I might find a way around it. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: hlm <hlm@aplcore.jhuapl.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:02:24 -0500 Organization: VCP Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32EE6959.5F0E@aplcore.jhuapl.edu> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Stevens wrote: > > Yah, but Intel released some versions of the '486 without FP capabilities. > > Best guess: during test the FP Coprocessors didn't work correctly, so > they disabled 'em, packaged 'em any way and sold 'em for low end (cheap) > systems. > Not exactly correct. The Intel 486SX-25 was a detuned, crippled 486DX-33. It was purely a marketing ploy on Intel's part, designed solely to kill off sales of the AMD 386DX-40. When Intel brought out the 486DX-33, they essentially abandoned the 386 market, leving a huge entry-level hole for AMD to exploit with the 386DX40. Recognizing this, Intel disabled the FPU on their 486 and sold it as a 25MHz chip instead of a 33MHz. I've heard speculation that Intel used chips which wouldn't pass tests for the DX-33, but never saw what I felt to be confirmation. Even though the cost to manufacture the 486SX-25 was presumably exactly the same, or slightly higher, than the 486DX-33, Intel sold them at a *HUGE* discount. I bought a motherboard with a surface mounted 486SX-25 back in '92 or early '93 for well under $200, when DX-33 motherboards were at least $400-500 as I recall. Intel also sold a "FPU upgrade" for the SX-25, which was reportedly another DX-33, but with an extra pin so that it wouldn't fit a DX-33 socket. Install the "FPU upgrade" and you disabled the SX-25 CPU and ran off the "upgrade" chip exclusively. Now instead of just having a disabled FPU on your SX-25 chip, taking up real estate and doing absolutely nothing, you had a totally disabled SX-25! It was an engineering embarrassment, but as I said, it was purely a marketing ploy intended to destroy AMD. Between that and the lawsuit (in which AMD eventually prevailed), Intel was successful for several years in almost totally suppressing competition. (NEC's V20 chip was a very effective competitor to the Intel 8086--I bought an "XT clone" with one of those in '86--but never had a successor.) Recently, with their reported problems with Klamath development and the alleged superiority of AMD's newest chip, perhaps that is to be remedied somewhat. Intel has played just about as dirty as Micro$oft, but without the publicity.
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decompressing .zip files? Date: 29 Jan 1997 12:33:01 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5cng1t$3bg@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <5clta3$jmh@goofy.snet.net> svenifer@snet.net writes > Is there program that will decompress PKWARE's dos pkzip/pkunzip? > > thanks Sven. Get: Opener.app Probably available at: ftp.next.peak.org It opens EVERYTHING! Well, maybe not everything, but everything that I've heard of. -- Jon Haveman
From: jklein@freon.artificial.com (jon klein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Problems with Audio CDs and NeXTStep 3.2/Moto Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 27 Jan 97 22:30:55 GMT Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Message-ID: <32ed2c9f.0@192.33.12.30> References: <5c5hn9$ctc@news3.texas.net> <5cd6oe$gco@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> Michael Pieper (michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de) wrote: : >It's almost as if the system won't recognize/mount audio CDs.. did I : >forget to add a filesystem type somewhere?..... : There should be a directory /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs. I have the same problem! Upon inspecting /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs, I have cdaudio.util, but not cdaudio.device. I assume this is important. Moreover, it's not on the NS3.1 CD. Do I have to generate this device myself? If so, how? If not, how do I get it? -- -jon klein jklein@freon.artificial.com Caper will do it for me.
From: svenifer@snet.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Decompressing .zip files? Date: 28 Jan 1997 22:06:59 GMT Organization: "SNET dial access service" Message-ID: <5clta3$jmh@goofy.snet.net> Is there program that will decompress PKWARE's dos pkzip/pkunzip? thanks Sven.
From: Robert F Tobler <rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP! User account keeps quitting... Date: 28 Jan 1997 22:09:34 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5clteu$j1e@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5c7510$mdk$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <E4oAGr.1I9@onevision.de> robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) wrote: > Hi Seamus, > one reason could be bad permissions on your root directory. Have a look at > your computer's root directory via the Inspector. Everyone should be > allowed to do all (read write execute). This is WRONG (I am shouting here only to warn people that this is not good for system security!). This is only the default installation of Next. It is not necessary for NextStep to work that the root directory is writeable by anyone but root. Have a look at: /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/14_Security.rtfd chapter 'Protecting Directories' to find out about the correct permissions for the root directory! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mirko@next.procom.it> Message-ID: <199701282226.XAA05690@next.procom.it> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Mirko Viviani <mirko@procom.it> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 23:26:35 +0100 Subject: mgetty 0.98 info... Ciao... I'm installing mgetty 0.98 for a replacement of std getty, but it doesn't work correctly. The problem is with the login session: the remote write his name and pw, then login write "Last login: etc etc etc on ttyfb". After that login quit itself and does not spawn the shell, it does nothing, I don't know why ! With std getty it works perfectly... Actually I'm using this entry in /etc/ttys ttyfb "/usr/local/sbin/mgetty -x 9 -r -b -s 38400 ttyfb DNXFast" unknown on secure I have tried with ttyfb, cufb and speed of 38400 and 57600 but the result is the same ! :( These are latest lines of an mgetty session: 01/28 19:30:35 yfb removing lock file 01/28 19:30:35 yfb waiting... 01/28 19:30:35 yfb checking lockfiles, locking the line 01/28 19:30:35 yfb makelock(ttyfb) called 01/28 19:30:35 yfb do_makelock: lock='/usr/spool/uucp/LCK/LCK..ttyfb' 01/28 19:30:35 yfb lock made 01/28 19:30:35 yfb waiting for line to clear (VTIME), read: 01/28 19:30:36 yfb getlogname, read:mirko[0d] 01/28 19:30:39 yfb input finished with '\r', setting ICRNL ONLCR 01/28 19:30:39 yfb login: use login config file /usr/local/etc/mgetty+sendfax/login.config 01/28 19:30:39 yfb match: user='mirko', key='/FIDO/' 01/28 19:30:39 yfb match: user='mirko', key='*'*** hit! 01/28 19:30:39 yfb login: utmp entry: mirko 01/28 19:30:39 yfb calling login: cmd='/bin/login', argv[]='login mirko' 01/28 19:30:39 ##### data dev=ttyfb, pid=5438, caller=none, conn='DIRECT', name='', cmd='/bin/login', user='mirko' Any hints ? Thanks. --- Bye, Mirko <mirko@procom.it> (NeXTmail, MIME)
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: TCL for NeXT (HELP) Date: 29 Jan 97 09:53:04 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan29095304@howard.one.net> References: <32EEA76D.41C67EA6@oar.net> In-reply-to: "Keith L. Swallow"'s message of Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:27:09 -0500 In article <32EEA76D.41C67EA6@oar.net>, "Keith L. Swallow" <swallow@oar.net> writes: I need to find a copy of tcl or instructions for installing tcl 7.6 on a next with nextmach 1.0 .. I know its old... But it is what I have to work with. SO any assistance would be gratfully appreciated. Please just reply to this by mailing me : swallow@oar.net I've posted a copy of tcl7.6 modified to compile under NeXTSTEP3.3 to my home page. Getting it to compile under NS1.0 will likely be a chore, since a lot has happened since then. If you told us what goes wrong when you try to ./configure and compile it, well, then we might be able to help more. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decompressing .zip files? Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 07:13:03 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970129071026.5523F-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: svenifer@snet.net In-Reply-To: 74f3aa16d80b8ec94f47e5099207f1dd - > Is there program that will decompress PKWARE's dos pkzip/pkunzip? I believe Opener.app can do this. ftp to 'eclipse.its.rpi.edu' and look under /NeXT/utils/ I think... Garance has single-arch versions of this rather large but excellent app. TjL
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 + Qmail - Kill the evil sendmail Date: 29 Jan 1997 20:21:00 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-i-60.usc.edu Message-ID: <5cobfc$a9@usc.edu> References: <x7oheab7x4.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Cc: mycroft@datasphere.net In <x7oheab7x4.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Mycroft wrote: > > For anyone out there still running sendmail, you would be MUCH happier > from a security perspective, by switching to qmail. Now that my Cube > is finally back in working order, I did some thorough testing, and > qmail 0.96 runs just fine under NS3.3. Someone (probably *not* me =] ) > will need to figure out how to make Mail.app NOT look for > $SPOOLDIR/$USER and look for JUST $SPOOLDIR, or whatever. Shouldn't be > too hard, I imagine. How did you get Mail.app to use mail out with the proper addresses? I remember having been stumped trying to get it to handle addresses formed: "Matthew Reichman" <reichman@usc.edu>. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: ernst@fritz.snafu.de (Ernst Kloecker) Subject: NXFax : NO DIALTONE ? Message-ID: <E4sDMn.1Ir@fritz.snafu.de> Sender: news@fritz.snafu.de Organization: Software Engineering Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:15:57 GMT Does anybody know how to operate NXFax if the modem is connected to a PBX ? Apparently NXFax initialises the modem with ATX4. When connected to a PBX the modem returns NO DIALTONE when the dialing command is issued, i.e. sending faxes does not work any longer. If the modem would have been initialised with ATX3, everything would work fine. That's the modem's NVRAM setting, but NXFax issues a ATX4 after the ATZ before sending a fax, apparently. Thanks for any info, Ernst. --- Ernst Kloecker ernst@fritz.snafu.de
From: randy@text3 (Charles R. Fletcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Which ports for these apps? Date: 29 Jan 1997 17:45:36 GMT Organization: University of Minnesota Message-ID: <5co2c0$29g@epx.cis.umn.edu> I use the Tip Top communications package to connect my NeXTstation at home to the one on my desk at work (via a University modem pool). According to the Tip Top documentation, I should be able to use term (which is included with Tip Top) to create a "SLIP-like" connection that will allow me to run newsreaders, web browsers, and the like from my home machine. But first I need to redirect the appropriate port on my home machine to the corresponding port on my office machine. That leads to my questions: 1. Which port does Omni Web use? 2. Which port does Radical News use? 3. Is there a way to find out, in general, which port an application uses? 4. Should I just give up on Tip Top and figure out how to use PPP (please keep in mind that I consider myself technically challenged)? Thanks for your help! Randy Fletcher -- =================================================================== Charles R. Fletcher e-mail: randy@text3.psych.umn.edu Department of Psychology (NeXTmail and MIME OK) University of Minnesota 75 East River Rd phone: (612) 625-6096 Minneapolis MN 55455-0344 fax: (612) 626-2079 =================================================================== WWW Home Page: http://text2.psych.umn.edu/RandyHomePage.htmld/ ===================================================================
From: barton@doggy.dircon.co.uk (Barton Friedland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.1 - Typing problem Date: 28 Jan 1997 23:39:30 GMT Organization: via Direct Connection News service Message-ID: <5cm2ni$hk5$1@newsserver.dircon.co.uk> References: <5cd289$otr$1@newsserver.dircon.co.uk> <E4oCLz.Js9@cam-ani.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <E4oCLz.Js9@cam-ani.co.uk> No, it seems to happen in DOS mode as well. I am using version 4.1. It did not used to happen. Very upsetting. On 01/27/97, Ian Stephenson wrote: >In article <5cd289$otr$1@newsserver.dircon.co.uk> >barton@doggy.dircon.co.uk (Barton Friedland) writes: >> Anyone have this problem? >> >> You type in a SoftPC window but not all keys you press are passed on >> to the window - sometimes a single keypress yields TWO keys on screen >> - sometime the keys appear in all caps no matter what you do. > >Is this a DOS window within windows thats giving problems? > >There was a REALLY nasty bug in 4.0 (to do with the way the iret >instruction was implemented) which broke keyboard driven context switches >when in windows (alt-tab). It could lead to the App locking up. >Unfortunatly the fix was to remove some code which sped up DOS handling (I >spent about a week trying to find a better way :-(). > >Windows apps should be fine, and DOS running by itself should be fine, but >DOS inside windows a bit sluggish. If this isn't the case, then I'll need >more info. > >If this is important to you, you could try 4.0 (or even hassle insignia to >make you a 4.1 with the iret hooks hack back in the keyboard handler!), >but be carefull about alt-tab. > >$an > -- Barton Friedland barton@clmuk.com Camilla Lowther Management 0171 727 6242 phone Top Floor, 19 All Saints Road 0171 792 0587 fax London W11 1HE
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 + Qmail - Kill the evil sendmail Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:22:02 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <AmvuBOS00iV6I284JO@andrew.cmu.edu> References: 1cbdda54d921e07c870232131136c8d9 - <199701281900.OAA05249@nerc.com> In-Reply-To: <199701281900.OAA05249@nerc.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 28-Jan-97 Re: NeXTStep 3.3 + Qmail - .. by Timothy J Luoma@nerc.com >> Someone (probably *not* me =] ) will need to figure out how to >> make Mail.app NOT look for $SPOOLDIR/$USER and look for JUST >> $SPOOLDIR, or whatever. Shouldn't be too hard, I imagine. > > What do you mean look for $SPOOLDIR ? /usr/spool/mail/ should > always exist, right? $SPOOLDIR = '/usr/spool/mail' under NEXTSTEP. $SPOOLDIR = '/var/spool/mail' under some other operating systems, like Solaris. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bngover@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Bradford Gover) Subject: Anyone successfully installed Xnext? Message-ID: <E4sDK5.4tn@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:14:28 GMT Tried to install Xnext the other day with not much success. Anyone successfully done this or know where there's help (eg., a FAQ)? If you don't know what I'm talking about and are interested, check out ftp.evolution.com/pub/next/X11/server/Xnext/Xnext-README Thanks for any help, Brad Gover
From: "Peter Q. Olsson" <peter.olsson@gi.alaska.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FTP sites Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 13:04:12 -0900 Organization: Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks Message-ID: <32EF959A.78F7@gi.alaska.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all- What has happened to the ftp sites for NeXTStep/Openstep freeware/shareware. The "old" usuals (ftp.cs.orst.edu, cs.orst.edu, nova.cc.purdue.edu, sonata.cc.purdue.edu, etc )pointed to by SO many of the out-of-date web pages no longer work or refuse ftp connections. What gives? Any suggestions for alternqates -- ############################################ # # Dr. Peter Q. Olsson # Geophysical Institute # University of Alaska Fairbanks # Fairbanks, AK 99775 # # voice: (907) 474-6477 # fax: (907) 474 7290 # e-mail: peter.olsson@gi.alaska.edu # #############################################
From: Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 + Qmail - Kill the evil sendmail Date: 29 Jan 1997 14:45:03 -0800 Organization: DataSphere Sender: mycroft@chrome.datasphere.net Message-ID: <x7lo9cgky8.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> References: <x7oheab7x4.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> <5cobfc$a9@usc.edu> reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) writes: > > How did you get Mail.app to use mail out with the proper addresses? I > remember having been stumped trying to get it to handle addresses formed: > "Matthew Reichman" <reichman@usc.edu>. > Matthew- Ummn. I'm not really sure what you mean...if you could clarify your question, maybe I could help =] If it's related to Mail.app, Timothy Luomat (TjL) is your best bet...he knows a whole lot more then me, about NeXTStep =] If it's a general Unix question, a security question, or a Qmail/Sendmail/WhateverMTA question, I'll probably be able to answer it (hopefully) =] .mycroft -- [:]====================================================================[:] [\] Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> >>>>>[DataSphere]<<<<< [=] [=] Key fingerprint = DD B1 A7 D9 2D DF A0 F7 23 C2 6B EC 5A AD 01 A9 [\] [:]====================================================================[:]
From: ge5@umail.umd.edu (Geoffrey S. Elbo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WWW Browser / Internet Setup Date: Thu, 30 Jan 97 01:40:15 GMT Organization: Career Center Univ. of MD Message-ID: <5cou8v$3sc@hecate.umd.edu> Hello. I recently got a NeXT box, not the cube. I need to set it up for Internet use and get a web browser for it. Can anyone help? Thanks. ---- ___ ___....-----'---`-----....___ LIVE LONG AND PROSPER! ===================================== Geoffrey S. Elbo ___`---..._______...---'___ ge5@umail.umd.edu (___) _|_|_|_ (___) \\____.-'_.---._`-.____// Career Center - UMCP `~~~~`.__`---'__.'~~~~' University of Maryland at College Park ~~~~~ http://www.CareerCenter.umd.edu/
From: stanifor@cs.ucdavis.edu (Stuart Staniford-Chen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FileSpy filters Date: 30 Jan 1997 01:05:32 GMT Organization: Northcoast Internet Message-ID: <5cos4s$oec@alder.northcoast.com> Has anyone got FileSpy to work correctly? (FileSpy is an app to be found at ftp://next-ftp.peak/org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/FileSpy.1.1.NIHS.b.tar. gz which allows (or should allow) you to easily monitor changes to your system log files). It sorta works for me, but the filters don't seem to work at all (although the syntax is not well documented). Without those, it's way too noisy. Eg. I've tried the following filter lines: autonfsmount repeated "*auto.home*args to yp function are bad*" *autonfsmount* *repeated* and it does not prevent items of the form: Jan 29 16:55:00 helvellyn autonfsmount: auto.home: args to yp function are bad from showing up. Thanks, Stuart Staniford-Chen Computer Security Group University of California at Davis
From: Jan Skypala <skypalaj@alpha.inf.upol.cz> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can beat shity Petium Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 21:03:07 +0100 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <32EFACFB.59E2@alpha.inf.upol.cz> References: <5bluur$ump$3@doffen.uninett.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lasse Olsen wrote: > So, again, where can I buy it at 533Mhz? > Cheers... You've got to wait a minute or so, but while waiting check out: http://www.exp.com/products/x704/x704bull.html -- One ---------------------------------------------------------------------- __ __ / | One of Better Software Jan Skypala / / /_ | one@risc.upol.cz Zasovska 730 / / | | skypalaj@alpha.inf.upol.cz 757 01 Val. Mez. __ / / | | http://www.inf.upol.cz/~skypalaj Czech Republic \ \ / / |_| A1200/030+882@50/2+16RAM/850HD Tel: +42-651-22573 \_X_/ - Have a good die. Oh, sorry. Have a good day. -
From: jmosher@think.com (Jessica Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there a way to run a web browser on black hardware? Date: 29 Jan 1997 23:20:44 GMT Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Bedford MA, USA Message-ID: <5com0c$jh4@bone.think.com> References: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970129065801.5523D-100000@kira> Tim, I don't have web access. Where can I get the patch for OmniWeb on 3.2 via ftp? Thanks for the followup post! -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Thinking Machines Corporation Systems Support Engineer c/o American Express
From: "Sam.Chow" <Sam.Chow@prodigy.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.database,comp.client-server Subject: Openstep vs Powerbuilder vs Delphi Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:48:20 -0500 Organization: Prodigy Internet Message-ID: <32F01A04.11EF@prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Netters, I will be involved in a client-server database project in March. One of my responsibility is to create GUI to query our new database which is a Sybase server on the Sun platform. This GUI would not only display alphanumerical text data but also capable of interpreting the data and plot out graphs and plots. It is not as fancy as the EXCEL or any commerical grade mathematical anaytical program. As you can see I do my software development on Solaris and occassionally on Windows. And I have always prefer to fo my development on Solaris. One of the in-house application that I was asked to use is powerbuilder (Windows 95) to develop client-server based applications. But I have looked at other options like Openstep, Webobject, Delphi and even Java. I seems to like Openstep and WebObject very much but Openstep doesn't seem to support Win 3.1 and Win95 (although, I heard that NeXT will be releasing Openstep for Win95 soon). Lastly, I do want to consider other products. Since I have not tried any of the above mentioned with the exception of Powerbuilder and Java, I want to get some feedback from the internet. I would like to hear from anybody who have used or evaluated some of the above products before specifically Openstep, Powerbuilder and Webobject. I appreciate anyone who would respond and thank you for reading. Regards, Samuel Chow
From: barton@doggy.dircon.co.uk (Barton Friedland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.1 - Typing problem Date: 30 Jan 1997 01:12:12 GMT Organization: via Direct Connection News service Message-ID: <5coshc$44h$1@newsserver.dircon.co.uk> References: <5cm2ni$hk5$1@newsserver.dircon.co.uk> <E4rons.64H@cam-ani.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <E4rons.64H@cam-ani.co.uk> Canon object.station 41 This did not happen in the 4.0 version I had. On 01/29/97, Ian Stephenson wrote: >In article <5cm2ni$hk5$1@newsserver.dircon.co.uk> >barton@doggy.dircon.co.uk (Barton Friedland) writes: >> No, it seems to happen in DOS mode as well. I am using version 4.1. >What machine are you using, and how fast are you typing? Ordinary DOS >propmt was fine when I used it (though maybe a little slow). Windows was >fast. Only DOS in Windows (full screen) was really a problem, and that was >just about OK on a P60, though unsuitable for fast typing. > >If this isn't the case then perhaps you've found a different bug. > >> It did not used to happen. Very upsetting. >4.0 is much faster in responding to the keyboard. Unfortunatly the side >effect is that it crashes! I figured it would annoy some people, but >stability was more important. > >$an > -- Barton Friedland barton@clmuk.com Camilla Lowther Management 0171 727 6242 phone Top Floor, 19 All Saints Road 0171 792 0587 fax London W11 1HE
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which ports for these apps? Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:16:27 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Qmw5XPS00iWUAMBgZo@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5co2c0$29g@epx.cis.umn.edu> In-Reply-To: <5co2c0$29g@epx.cis.umn.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 29-Jan-97 Which ports for these apps? by Charles R. Fletcher@text > 1. Which port does Omni Web use? 80. (And 443 if you are dealing with secure transactions-- https.) > 2. Which port does Radical News use? 119. > 3. Is there a way to find out, in general, which port an application uses? Look at /etc/services, and/or use 'netstat -n'. > 4. Should I just give up on Tip Top and figure out how to use PPP > (please keep in mind that I consider myself technically challenged)? I'd say yes, but it is up to you. Proxying services is less efficient than a real PPP connection, but is a little safer in terms of security requirements. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701291700.MAA10521@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 97 12:00:43 -0500 Subject: Re: another cool thing about Colorizer.bundle for Mail.app Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: af7e387ced1b169debe9099e1a0f8dc7 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> Original Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 01:01:27 +0100 > As in, to let procmail + appnmail kick in? :-) exactly. > (Except that EnhanceMail's online help is nowhere to be found in > Mail's help panel anymore, but that is probably EMs own fault...) Colorizer's help now appears in the Help panel (at least in 3.3) where EM used to be. Eric's bundle must have twiddled with the help-hack for EM. Renaming the "ColorHelp" entry in Colorizer doesn't solve the problem either. Oh well... I didn't particularly _need_ EM's online help, but I didn't need it broken either :-( TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FTP sites Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:04:14 +0100 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <32F0721E.2781@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <32EF959A.78F7@gi.alaska.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Q. Olsson wrote: > > Hello all- > > What has happened to the ftp sites for NeXTStep/Openstep > freeware/shareware. The "old" usuals (ftp.cs.orst.edu, cs.orst.edu, > nova.cc.purdue.edu, sonata.cc.purdue.edu, etc )pointed to by SO many of > the out-of-date web pages no longer work or refuse ftp connections. > What gives? Any suggestions for alternqates > -- http://peanuts.leo.org/ http://peanuts.leo.org/server/mirrors-e.html Check out the mirrors please, this site is in Europe ! ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: David Grindrod <grindrod@mailhost.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: OPENSTEP 4.1 and Windows NT Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:21:03 +0100 Organization: EMBL Distribution: world Message-ID: <32F0922F.2781@mailhost.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have just installed OPENSTEP 4.1 for windows NT and although all the developers stuff seems to work okay, there does not seem to be any applications. What I wondered was if there was any of the NeXT applications included, such as the mail program and the terminal etc. These were not on the distibution I have. Was the port limited just to the developers stuff? Has anyone any experience of porting generally available software to OPENSTEP/Windows NT and is there any archive off application for windows NT available. I could not see anything on the peanuts archive which is fairly extensive here in Germany. Email replies preferred if possible. Dave -- David grindrod, NMR System Manager, EMBL Heidelberg. Email: mailto:grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE HTML Home Page: http://www.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE/grindrod/
From: Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone successfully installed Xnext? Date: 30 Jan 1997 07:32:23 -0500 Organization: Northern Telecom Ltd., Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <iwkwwsvny20.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> References: <E4sDK5.4tn@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> I was unable to make it work. I have installed it on two separate occasions (just to make sure I didn't make some silly mistake the first time) with the same outcome: the X server is never able to start. I've tried emailing the author, but he has never responded. Christopher === Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 === Northern Telecom Ltd. | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC 4.1 - Typing problem Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:59:45 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E4to3M.BMC@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <5coshc$44h$1@newsserver.dircon.co.uk> In article <5coshc$44h$1@newsserver.dircon.co.uk> barton@doggy.dircon.co.uk (Barton Friedland) writes: > Canon object.station 41 > This did not happen in the 4.0 version I had. That pretty much confirms it - I've always found object stations to be dog slow! Your options are: 1) live with it. 2) Go back to 4.0 3) hassle Insignia for a patch #3 is a one line change (which is in turn ifdef'd), so the actuall work involved is minimal. However scince I left , they have no one regularly working on NeXTStep. Hence there's a big overhead of figuring out the build system, and making a release. They will need to pick up some of the old NeXTStep for MacOS8, so they may be willing to issue a patch. However the fix will bring back the old context switching bug. $an
From: ws@helga.helga.mfh-iserlohn.de (Waldemar Skorupa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: freeWAISsf on NeXT (HP PA-RISC or i486) Date: 30 Jan 1997 14:05:08 GMT Organization: FernUni Hagen Message-ID: <5cq9qk$qco@ilex.FernUni-Hagen.de> Hello I'm a Student writing his Diploma which is implementing a WAIS-Server on our NEXT-system. with the possibility to search in our pages and other databases via WWW. The second goal should be done with SFgate and WIASPERL. SFgate needs WAISPERL and WAISPERL needs the compiled sources of freeWAISsf. Due to heavy problems compiling freeWAISsf I want to ask you if thery is any possibility to get to the compiled source of freeWAISsf. I need them badly else there is no possibility to compile WAISPERL and further on SFgate. I would be very happy if you can help me with my problems or make better suggestions. many greetings from Germany Waldemar Skorupa Maerkische FH Hagen
From: ag082@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Andrew Orr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need money for software? Date: 30 Jan 1997 14:59:00 GMT Organization: Hamilton-Wentworth FreeNet, Ontario, Canada. Message-ID: <5cqcvk$t11@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> To Find out more about this sensational money making opportunity Email me at <andyorr@freenet.hamilton.on.ca> with "30 days" as your subject for all the FREE details. DO IT NOW and Make Money! Andrew A. Orr, <andyorr@freenet.hamilton.on.ca> -- Andrew A. Orr, U.E.L., Dipl. President of the Andrew Club http://www.freenet.hamilton.on.ca/~ag082/Profile.html "Life is like a bowl of Cherries, fifty percent pits!" --- AAO
From: hoefer@citrus.ucr.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hot tip: Eloquent/academic Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:02:54 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <970130100254.1529AAFpG.carl@einstein> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Keywords: Eloquent, mail, newsreader I just purchased Eloquent, a great mail program-cum-newsreader. I like it for both tasks *much* better than Mail.app and Alexandra.app, my former standbys. And the academic-user price is unbelievable ... if you have ever cursed Mail.app and/or your newsreader for not being as smoothly functional as Eudora or Netscape (or ... pick your fave windoze apps), you need to check out Eloquent. Carl Hoefer UC Riverside hoefer@citrus.ucr.edu
From: nurban@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Nathan M. Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Question Date: 30 Jan 1997 16:28:29 -0500 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5cr3pt$3n@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> References: <32F109F1.4BB@onramp.net> In article <32F109F1.4BB@onramp.net>, rmaniac@onramp.net wrote: > I found a gif of what was supposed to be NeXTSTEP 4.0 a while back. That was likely a mockup of a 4.0 beta release. > It had a new dock, gradient windows bars and many niceties. I picked up a > copy of openstep 4.1 and it looks just like NS 3.3. Am I missing a > setting or did they scrap all the visual stuff when they moved from > NeXTSTEP to OPENSTEP? They scrapped it. The betas had a new UI, but that didn't make it into 4.0. -- Nathan Urban | nurban@vt.edu | Undergrad {CS,Physics,Math} | Virginia Tech
From: Lyle Seaman <lws@transarc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:59:48 -0500 Organization: Transarc Message-ID: <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> <SHESS.97Jan28094520@slave.one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amidst all this talk about compressing swap files, the obvious (?) solution is missed. Why not just identify the unused pages in the swap file and punch holes in it? Ordinarily it might require sneaking in behind UFS, but if you own the OS, you can create a well-defined interface. Or am I missing something? Sorry to continue a thread which someone tried to kill pre-emptively, but I confess, I only subscribe to these groups intermittently...
From: byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com (John B. Byrne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: backup/restore Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 19:20:04 -0500 Organization: Integrated Wellness Systems Message-ID: <byrnejbb-3001971920110001@bal-md6-18.ix.netcom.com> Go easy on me, I new to NeXT World.... I'd like to backup my NeXT Station to a Zip drive. I think I need to get a SCSII cable and just plug it in, right? Is there backup software in NeXT Step or something the experts recommend? Thanks! John Byrne
From: na@ok.com Organization: The.Copy.Cat Shop. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5cr4m4$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5cr4m4$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <5cr4m4$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> References: <5cr4m4$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:44:38 +1 EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "TheCopyCatShop" or "summary of auto-cancels" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: Complete P133 Computer System.
From: Brian Sutherland <rmaniac@onramp.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Question Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:52:01 -0600 Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <32F109F1.4BB@onramp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found a gif of what was supposed to be NeXTSTEP 4.0 a while back. It had a new dock, gradient windows bars and many niceties. I picked up a copy of openstep 4.1 and it looks just like NS 3.3. Am I missing a setting or did they scrap all the visual stuff when they moved from NeXTSTEP to OPENSTEP? The file I speak of is ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/next/Graphics/From_NeXT/ns40.gif Please write back both E-mail and newsgroup so I will be sure to get it. my email address is in my sig it is not uptop for spam resons. -Brian bcs@onramp.net
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From: nextsale@ibgi.com (Ed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FS - 3.0 & 3.1 CD's Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:11:22 GMT Organization: IBGi Message-ID: <32f0abf4.92868206@news.cfa.org> 3.0 NeXT OS available . $ 60.00 3.1 Developer $ 110.00 Shipping included in the price ( USA only). 1-914-928-3076 ext. 2 SALES Visit our NeXtsale page: http://www.ibgi.com/nextsale.htm ________________________________________________
From: ptwareck@the-wire.com (Piotr Twarecki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OPENSTEP 4.1 & 25 MHz Black Date: 31 Jan 1997 03:17:37 GMT Organization: -the-Wire- in Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <5cro8h$360$1@news.the-wire.com> ReplyTo: ptwareck@the-wire.com Hi, Could anyone comment on the performance of OS4.1 vs NS3.2 or such like? Is it worth upgrading to it with black hardware? Thanks in advance! -- --- Piotr Twarecki <ptwareck@the-wire.com> (NeXTMail and MIME welcome)
From: jklein@freon.artificial.com (jon klein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone successfully installed Xnext? Date: 30 Jan 97 06:31:25 GMT Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Message-ID: <32f0403d.0@192.33.12.30> References: <E4sDK5.4tn@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> Bradford Gover (bngover@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : Tried to install Xnext the other day with not much success. Anyone : successfully done this or know where there's help (eg., a FAQ)? : If you don't know what I'm talking about and are interested, check out : ftp.evolution.com/pub/next/X11/server/Xnext/Xnext-README It seems to me that there are a couple of different X servers for NS calling themselves XNeXT. I tried using this some app that started a window on your screen as an Xserver which called itself XNeXT and it was *terrible*. I would avoid this one if possible... plus, it's shareware, and the author is asking for money, and I just don't think it's worth it. I'm now using another set up called mouseX that tends to work very well. It seems to have been built by some folks at McGill, so it also sometimes has the name 'McGill X project', or something along those lines. I would go to next-ftp.peak.org and look in /pub/next/XNeXT/mouseX. It's also confusing because there are big tar files in /pub/next/XNeXT, but these didn't work for me. The only way was for me to grab all the different packages in /pub/next/XNeXT/mouseX. -- -jon klein jklein@freon.artificial.com Caper will do it for me.
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which ports for these apps? Date: 31 Jan 1997 07:25:46 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Message-ID: <5cs6pq$16o2@news.ccit.arizona.edu> I must admit that I don't really remember the exact procedures (it has been a while since I switched to Slirp + PPP). So you may have to try it by yourself. Anyway, here are from my memory. (1). To run OmniWeb under Term: * Get a copy of the CERN http daemon. * Set up the server to run as a caching proxy running on port 8000 (or 8080) by modifying the sample configuration file "caching.conf" or "proxy.conf". You will have to read some of the docs which come with the server, but it is pretty easy. * Use tredir to redirect port 8000 (or 8080) so that it appears local. For instance, tredir 8000 net.connected.machine:8000 * Configure Omniweb via the preference panel to use the proxy: http://localhost:8000/ for all httpd requests. (2). To read News under Term: * Use tredir to redirct port 119; i.e., tredir 119 news.remote.machine:119 (3). Don't know. (Can someone help to answer this?) (4). Definitely. You should try Slirp + PPP. It is really a much better solution. On 01/29/97 in the group comp.sys.next.software you wrote: > >1. Which port does Omni Web use? >2. Which port does Radical News use? >3. Is there a way to find out, in general, which port an application uses? >4. Should I just give up on Tip Top and figure out how to use PPP (please >keep in mind that > I consider myself technically challenged)? > >Thanks for your help! > >Randy Fletcher > > > -- ---------------- Yuwen Cheng University of Arizona, Math yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: "Nick Carrigan" <nickc@accessone.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NextStep for Intel 3.3 User Edition Date: 31 Jan 1997 05:03:06 GMT Organization: AccessOne Message-ID: <01bc0f33$49c187e0$c443d5ce@default> Selling a copy of Nextstep 3.3 for Intel.... $100 + shipping (obo) Nick
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: VRML 2.0 development for NS/OS?? Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 02:27:02 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services-Illinois State University Message-ID: <32F1ACD2.72B6@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <01bc0d3b$d53393d0$475fbace@opcentre> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ross Leonard wrote: > > Good Day! > > Has anyone ever come across any VRML development Environments for > NextStep/OpenStep, specifically that supports level 2.0/Moving Worlds? Check into the GNU 3D kit info at http://www.gnustep.org > We will be developing primarily using WebObjects with the JAVA extensions > on black hardware/NextStep 3.3 (though a move to OpenStep is not > out-of-the-question). We definitely will need to integrate VRML into our > solutions, and therefore a visual VRML DevKit is badly needed. I'd *really > rather not* manually code it myself. The Java ext's are NOT out for MACH! :( -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Hot tip: Eloquent/academic Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 02:31:57 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services-Illinois State University Message-ID: <32F1ADF9.57F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <970130100254.1529AAFpG.carl@einstein> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: hoefer@citrus.ucr.edu hoefer@citrus.ucr.edu wrote: > > I just purchased Eloquent, a great mail program-cum-newsreader. I like it You forgot the obligatory URL! Anyone have one? -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Jonathan B. Leffert" <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: latex for OS 4.1? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131090257.22385A-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> Sender: jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:03:40 GMT I got the latex2e base and packages package from ftp.next.peak.org and installed them. there was not tex or latex binary so nothing would work. where can i get a distribution that works? jon Jonathan B. Leffert <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> "Funny how ev'rything was roses when we held on to the guns, just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." -- Guns n' Roses, Breakdown finger -l jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu for PGP Public Key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Jonathan B. Leffert" <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: sendmail config? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131090432.22385B-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> Sender: jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:05:22 GMT I just installed OS 4.1 for intel and now when i use nextmail to send mail, the mail bounces with a host unknown error. now, dns stuff is working fine so this seems really bizarre. what kind of config stuff does sendmail need? jon Jonathan B. Leffert <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> "Funny how ev'rything was roses when we held on to the guns, just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." -- Guns n' Roses, Breakdown finger -l jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu for PGP Public Key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Jonathan B. Leffert" <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: cc++ not working Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131090747.22995B-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> Sender: jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:09:12 GMT I'm running OS 4.1 developer for intel. I'm trying to compile this simple program t.C: #include <iostream.h> int main() { cout << "hello world!\n"; return 0; } with a command $ cc++ t.C i then get this error: ld: Undefined symbols: ostream::operator<<(char const *) cout what is going on? jon Jonathan B. Leffert <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> "Funny how ev'rything was roses when we held on to the guns, just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." -- Guns n' Roses, Breakdown finger -l jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu for PGP Public Key
From: Jason Wagner <jason@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3D? Date: 31 Jan 1997 08:14:05 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Message-ID: <5ct27t$9ie@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> I've been seeing references to the "Fatted Calf" CD with "Renderman" files.... then I read in teh FAQ that NEXTSTEP comes with a "3D toolkit." Can anyone tell me more about the graphics and animation type software that comes with NEXTSTEP? How well do NeXT machines run this software?? Thanks! Jason -- Regards. @@@@ _ @()@ Jason Wagner @@()@@ _(_)_ @()@() vVVVv @@@@ (_)@(_) ()@()@) (___) jason@primenet.com / (_) _\|/_ Y webmaster@automationplus.com \ | \ / |-----| \ | / www.primenet.com/~jason \\|// \\|/ \___/ \\\|// www.automationplus.com
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: latex for OS 4.1? Date: 31 Jan 1997 15:38:28 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5ct3lk$lh5@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131090257.22385A-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131090257.22385A-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> "Jonathan B. Leffert" <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> writes: > I got the latex2e base and packages package from ftp.next.peak.org and > installed them. there was not tex or latex binary so nothing would work. > where can i get a distribution that works? Read the documentation next time. (-; I believe the latex2e package you refer to is the one I built as an add-on to NeXTTex.pkg, which WAS inlcuded in NS 3.3, but not in subsequent releases. I'd recommend you pick up teTeX. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: cc++ not working Date: 31 Jan 1997 15:40:03 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5ct3oj$lhi@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131090747.22995B-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131090747.22995B-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> "Jonathan B. Leffert" <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> writes: > I'm running OS 4.1 developer for intel. > with a command > $ cc++ t.C > i then get this error: > ld: Undefined symbols: > ostream::operator<<(char const *) > cout Sigh... again... read the documentation... (-; cc++ t.C -lg++ (or something close to that). You need to specify the c++ library to link against. It's in the developer docs. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: tetsu@alcatraz.net (Andre Tsurukame) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Daydream -- MacOs emulator questions Date: 20 Jan 1997 23:39:28 GMT Organization: VE Information system, Inc. Message-ID: <5c0vng$co4@uruguay.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I am currently running Daydream 2.11 by Quix on our NextStation computers here and I have a couple of questions if anyone can help me out. 1. Can daydream run the lastest version of system 7.5? 2. We are currently have 7.5.3 installed on our Nextstation using Daydream and we are encountering some graphic/display glitches. For example when running Netscape 2.02, some of the inline images, such Netscape Homepage Logo, comes out looking skewed looking very psychedelic with green and blue splotches. We installed the daydream 1.43 color patch, but this did not help. 3. What is the most current release of daydream. If 2.11 is the most current, are there any plans by Quix to put out any newer versions? Thanks for anyone help you can give me. - Andre
From: notmy@address.org (Collin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mouse Speed Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:24:15 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Sender: clp5@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <notmy-3101971224150001@cu-dialup-1228.cit.cornell.edu> Hello Again, One thing I find slightly annoying about my NeXT is that even on the fastest tracking setting I don't feel like the mouse tracks across the screen fast enough for my liking. It seems that the top tracking speed on the NeXT is about equivalent to the medium tracking speed on my Mac (yes, also with a 17" monitor). I feel like I'm always having to pick up the mouse and put it back on the pad. Anyway, the question is...has anyone written some little patch that speeds up the mouse tracking speed or is there some other trick? Thanks...Collin ------- Sorry, I'm tired of junk email, so my reply address is invalid. clp5@cornell.edu
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Date: 31 Jan 1997 18:07:54 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <5ctcdq$lj8$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <notmy-3101971224150001@cu-dialup-1228.cit.cornell.edu> notmy@address.org (Collin) wrote: >Hello Again, > One thing I find slightly annoying about my NeXT is that even on the >fastest tracking setting I don't feel like the mouse tracks across the >screen fast enough for my liking. It seems that the top tracking speed on >the NeXT is about equivalent to the medium tracking speed on my Mac (yes, >also with a 17" monitor). I feel like I'm always having to pick up the >mouse and put it back on the pad. Anyway, the question is...has anyone >written some little patch that speeds up the mouse tracking speed or is >there some other trick? >Thanks...Collin > >------- >Sorry, I'm tired of junk email, so my reply address is invalid. >clp5@cornell.edu Actually I've found that there is a "trick" to using the NeXT mouse. The faster you move the mouse from one spot on the mouse pad to another, the *farther* the arrow moves on the screen. ie, the arrow travel has a nonlinear relationship to the mouse travel. You can see this by placing your mouse at the left edge of the pad and the arrow at the left edge of the screen. SLOWLY move the mouse to the right edge of the pad. The pointer will only make it about halfway across the screen before you run out of pad (17" screen). Now repeat the test, but move the mouse QUICKLY across the pad. The pointer reaches the right edge of the screen before the mouse has even traveled half the pad width. Knowing this you can move the pointer around the screen without picking up the mouse much. If you need to cover alot of territory with the pointer, move the mouse quickly. As you near what you are going to click on, slow down (as is natural). It takes some practice, but I have come to like it better than the standard Windoze mouse... --Ryan
From: jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John Stevens) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 31 Jan 1997 10:57:33 -0700 Organization: Verinet Communications Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ctbqd$faj@bamboo.verinet.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <u02wwsxbea9.fsf@ml.com> In article <u02wwsxbea9.fsf@ml.com>, Brent B. Powers Swaps Programmer x2293 <powers@ml.com> wrote: >jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John Stevens) writes: > > > Yah, but Intel released some versions of the '486 without FP capabilities. > > > > Best guess: during test the FP Coprocessors didn't work correctly, so > > they disabled 'em, packaged 'em any way and sold 'em for low end (cheap) > > systems. > >Ummm, didn't the 486sx have a different pinout? That would argue >against this. Possibly not. Remember, the pinout is part of the packaging. You can, (and some companies do, to save money) test the silicon before packaging it. Of course, you gotta watch that heat dissapation. . . >The FP Coprocessor is a relatively expensive piece of >silicon, so they would have had reason to drop it for cost-savings. Yah. This is another scenario. As stated above, I was just guessing. But tell me, as an INTEL manager, if you could test the silicon before packaging it, and everything worked fine exept the FP, would you just throw away a very expensive piece of silicon, or would you think seriously about packaging it differently, and selling it as a different part (albeit with the FP completely disabled. . .)? I believe that for a while, due to the high cost of fab, that HP was actually *repairing* chips. This would argue that it is not only possible to depackage and repackage, but possible to do it in a commercially feasible way. . . John S.
From: indy@pachacuti.is.com (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: backup/restore Date: 31 Jan 1997 17:51:59 GMT Organization: Integrity Solutions, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ctbfv$hv3@medusa.is.com> References: <byrnejbb-3001971920110001@bal-md6-18.ix.netcom.com> In article <byrnejbb-3001971920110001@bal-md6-18.ix.netcom.com> byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com (John B. Byrne) writes: > Go easy on me, I new to NeXT World.... > > I'd like to backup my NeXT Station to a Zip drive. I think I need to get a > SCSII cable and just plug it in, right? Is there backup software in NeXT > Step or something the experts recommend? Yes: SafetyNet from Systemix. Check out...darn, my pointer vanished. Look around on the archives. -- | Steve Weintz | "The Deliverator's car packs enough potential energy | indy@is.com | in its batteries to fire a pound of bacon into the | 612.686.4085 | Asteroid Belt." -- Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash
From: cpryor@zariski.ftf.lth.se (Craig Pryor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: omniweb multilanguage support? Date: 31 Jan 1997 20:27:59 GMT Organization: Lund University Message-ID: <5ctkkf$fc6$1@merkurius.lu.se> How do you select what language Omniweb downloads from sites with multilanguage support? Web pages from the internet movie database appear in French and German using Omniweb (2.0.1 and 2.5.b2). I was able to change the language by changing my *second* choice language in workspace preferences, but still no english. I fixed the problem by going into Omni.dictionary and commenting out these lines: OWHTTPProcessor = { languageAbbreviations = { English = en; /* French = fr;*/ /* German = de;*/ /* Japanese = ja;*/ /* Chinese = zh;*/ /* Korean = ko;*/ /* Italian = it;*/ /* Spanish = es;*/ /* Portugese = pt;*/ }; }; Now I get pages in english, but isn't there a "right" way to do this? Craig Pryor Physics Dept. Lund Sweden cpryor@zariski.ftf.lth.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: FTP sites Message-ID: <1997Jan31.101606.402@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de Organization: Disorganization References: <32EF959A.78F7@gi.alaska.edu> <32F0721E.2781@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:16:06 GMT In <32F0721E.2781@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Stefan Ried wrote: > Peter Q. Olsson wrote: > > > > Hello all- > > > > What has happened to the ftp sites for NeXTStep/Openstep > > freeware/shareware. The "old" usuals (ftp.cs.orst.edu, cs.orst.edu, > > nova.cc.purdue.edu, sonata.cc.purdue.edu, etc )pointed to by SO many of > > the out-of-date web pages no longer work or refuse ftp connections. > > What gives? Any suggestions for alternqates > > -- > > > > http://peanuts.leo.org/ > http://peanuts.leo.org/server/mirrors-e.html This site has been renamed to: www.peanuts.org ftp.peanuts.org
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3D? Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 07:06:12 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32F26CC5.5778@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5ct27t$9ie@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out following Web-Site and S/W solidThinking 2.5: http://www.gestel.com/ http://www.gestel.it/ YoungHoon Kil (Computer Graphics Freelancer) ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: cc++ not working Message-ID: <1997Jan31.134240.26105@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 31 Jan 97 13:42:40 MST References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131090747.22995B-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> Distribution: world Cc: jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu I think that you need to linl hte C++ library with the switch -lg++ -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071
From: leivian@primenet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IMA4 for NeXTTIME Date: 31 Jan 1997 21:45:04 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <5cuhog$3pf@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> does anyone know where to get a ima4 decompressor I was trying to show the starwars clips from CNN's web page I got this message from NEXTTIME... Jan 31 20:33:38 tiger NEXTIME[3126]: Sound Media: Cannot play sound from star.wars.jabba.27.1.2.mov. Sound is not available or requires a missing ima4 decompressor. (2) -Bob Leivian
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 31 Jan 1997 08:36:13 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5csatt$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> <SHESS.97Jan28094520@slave.one.net> <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com> Cc: lws@transarc.com In <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com> Lyle Seaman wrote: > Amidst all this talk about compressing swap files, the obvious (?) > solution is missed. Why not just identify the unused pages in the swap > file and punch holes in it? Ordinarily it might require sneaking in > behind UFS, but if you own the OS, you can create a well-defined > interface. Or am I missing something? > > > Sorry to continue a thread which someone tried to kill pre-emptively, > but I confess, I only subscribe to these groups intermittently... > Maybe a techie could fill me in on what is wrong with this idea, but, why couldn't you create a paging VM system that had a tree-structure -- e.g. a /private/vm/swapdir directory, and a linear swapfile for each process? Since processes are not unlikely to page out in a stack, the per-process swapfiles would be really able to shrink down when pages were freed. And when the process is killed, its swapfile is deleted. I can't see that this would be that much slower than the current linear swapfile system. You just have a some memory with address pointers in it that take you to the pages for each process. But I know nada about kernel level stuff. Clue me in. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decompressing .zip files? Date: 31 Jan 1997 13:22:18 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5csrma$r47@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5clta3$jmh@goofy.snet.net> svenifer@snet.net wrote: >Is there program that will decompress PKWARE's dos pkzip/pkunzip? unzip -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: HELP! User account keeps quitting... Message-ID: <E4vrs3.5sw@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5clteu$j1e@news.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:14:26 GMT In article <5clteu$j1e@news.tuwien.ac.at> Robert F Tobler <rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at> writes: > robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) wrote: > > Hi Seamus, > > one reason could be bad permissions on your root directory. Have a look at > > your computer's root directory via the Inspector. Everyone should be > > allowed to do all (read write execute). > > This is WRONG (I am shouting here only to warn people that this is not good > for system security!). This is only the default installation of Next. It is > not necessary for NextStep to work that the root directory is writeable by > anyone but root. > > Have a look at: > > /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/14_Security.rtfd > chapter 'Protecting Directories' > > to find out about the correct permissions for the root directory! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 > Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at > Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/ Hi Robert, You are of course absolutely right. The only reason for me to mention this here was that this sometimes solves the problem. Once everything is OK again, you should of course start looking at security. Robert. ========================================================================== Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ==========================================================================
From: Danko Ferdebar <FS@zg.tel.hr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTstation 25MHz & OpenStep4.1 hangs Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 08:32:19 +0100 Organization: FS d.o.o. Distribution: world Message-ID: <32F2F17B.53EC@zg.tel.hr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have old first generation NeXTstation (ABB0019758, Model N1100, Part 1715). After reinstalling or upgrading to OpenStep 4.1 system frequently (not always) hangs in the login prompt. Than I activate verbose mode for booting process. If it hangs during boot I can see message "spurious DMA interrupt :channel 0x2000110" repeated until systems hangs. Even command-~ doesn't help. I can only unplug the power to turn it off. If this message apears alone during boot process, than system sucessfully start up. I have tried to change hard drive and SIMMs, but system hangs again. (Quantum FireBall 1.2GB, DEC DSP 3160 1.6GB). As I know message "spurious DMA interrupt..." on Motorola 68040 CPU system means that DMA interrupt happened but nobody is responsible for that interrupt. In the NeXTanswers I have found something similar but on different hardware (Intel and SCSI adapters). Is it simply bug in the OpenStep for MachOS 4.1? Later I figure out that I can usually avoid this problem if boot first to single user mode (bsd -s) and leave NeXT for 5-10 minutes and then reboot to multi user mode. Does any one have similar problems or maybe solution for this problem? (I have test hardware again with NS3.0 and everything works fine.) Thanks! Danko Ferdebar FS@zg.tel.hr
From: francis@az.stratus.com (Francis Hartojo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Date: 31 Jan 1997 23:58:59 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <5cu103$sk0@transfer.stratus.com> References: <notmy-3101971224150001@cu-dialup-1228.cit.cornell.edu> <5ctcdq$lj8$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> By Jove, I think he's right! (c: I never noticed this before but I think the cursor *does* cover more territory the faster I move the mouse. BTW, this is on a white box. Ryan Scott <scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu> wrote: > >Actually I've found that there is a "trick" to using the NeXT mouse. The faster you >move the mouse from one spot on the mouse pad to another, the *farther* the arrow >moves on the screen. ie, the arrow travel has a nonlinear relationship to the mouse >travel. You can see this by placing your mouse at the left edge of the pad and the >arrow at the left edge of the screen. SLOWLY move the mouse to the right edge of >the pad. The pointer will only make it about halfway across the screen before you >run out of pad (17" screen). Now repeat the test, but move the mouse QUICKLY across >the pad. The pointer reaches the right edge of the screen before the mouse has even >traveled half the pad width. > >Knowing this you can move the pointer around the screen without picking up the mouse >much. If you need to cover alot of territory with the pointer, move the mouse >quickly. As you near what you are going to click on, slow down (as is natural). -- +------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+ | Francis Hartojo | Ph.: 602-852-3195 [Insert cute | | Stratus Computer, Inc. | 800-294-1344 x3195 disclaimer here] | | francis@az.stratus.com | Fax: 602-852-3099 |
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Date: 31 Jan 97 20:49:19 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF180B52-2E23F@207.147.52.78> References: <5cu103$sk0@transfer.stratus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Jan 31, 1997 6:58 PM, Francis Hartojo <mailto:francis@az.stratus.com> wrote: > By Jove, I think he's right! (c: I never noticed this before but I > think the cursor *does* cover more territory the faster I move the > mouse. BTW, this is on a white box. > > Ryan Scott <scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu> wrote: > > > >Actually I've found that there is a "trick" to using the NeXT mouse. The > faster you > >move the mouse from one spot on the mouse pad to another, the *farther* > the arrow > >moves on the screen. ie, the arrow travel has a nonlinear relationship to > the mouse > >travel. >It takes some practice, but I have come to like it better than the standard >Windoze mouse... Is this supposed to be a "Two Stooges" routine or are you guys serious? :-) I guess I have no experience with UNIX machines other than the NeXT, but I do have experience with the Mac and Windows. The Mac has had this "velocity tracking" (that's what it's called) feature (it is a feature and not a bug) ever since I have been using it, though it was less useful on 9" monitors. Obvioulsy it is much more useful the larger the monitor that you have connected to the box. So far as I know, the NeXT has also had this feature from the inception. I can't testify as to what sort of tracking the Lisa had or the Alto had. I guess for this reason I take umbrage at the remark about the "standard" Windoze mouse. IBM didn't invent the Personal Computer and Microsoft didn't invent the Graphical User Interface. The tracking on Windows has always seemed glitchy to me. The cursor seems to bounce around the screen erratically and of course I notice the pointer blinking in and out when the machine is doing processor intensive tasks. On a slight aside, I used to think that Win '95 was an attempt to copy the Mac GUI. Not at all. It was a much more blatant attempt to copy the NeXT GUI. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: ralf@Julia.DE (Ralf Baechle) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 1 Feb 1997 07:58:25 GMT Organization: Phoenix .d.i.g.i.t.a.l. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <u02wwsxbea9.fsf@ml.com> <5ctbqd$faj@bamboo.verinet.com> In article <5ctbqd$faj@bamboo.verinet.com>, jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John Stevens) writes: |> In article <u02wwsxbea9.fsf@ml.com>, |> Brent B. Powers Swaps Programmer x2293 <powers@ml.com> wrote: |> >jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John Stevens) writes: |> > |> > > Yah, but Intel released some versions of the '486 without FP capabilities. |> > > |> > > Best guess: during test the FP Coprocessors didn't work correctly, so |> > > they disabled 'em, packaged 'em any way and sold 'em for low end (cheap) |> > > systems. Still better than some Motorola chips where the software has no way to find out if the available FPU is a function one or just the wrecked leftover in the embedded variant. |> I believe that for a while, due to the high cost of fab, that HP was |> actually *repairing* chips. This would argue that it is not only |> possible to depackage and repackage, but possible to do it in a |> commercially feasible way. . . The cache of the MIPS R5000 contains additional semiconductors that can replace other, faulty ones. The cache is a big part of the die size and the process increases the yield rate without reducing the functionality - which is what you want for a middle class CPU like the R5k. Ralf -- A weird imagination is most useful to gain full advantage of all the features - manpage of amd(8).
From: benoit@medoc-ias.u-psud.fr (Jean BENOIT) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 31 Jan 1997 16:07:44 GMT Organization: Universite Paris-Sud, France. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ct5cg$795@upsn6.u-psud.fr> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> John Stevens (jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com) wrote: : In article <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL>, : Drs G. C. Th. Wierda <G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl> wrote: : : The 68008. Which was used in a late model Sinclair computer, the : color one (can't for the life of me remember whether is was called : the Rainbow, or some other kitschy "color" name). Wasn't that the Sinclair QL ? Jean ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jean BENOIT e-mail : benoit@medoc-ias.u-psud.fr Institut d'Astrophysique Spatiale tel : (+33) 01 69 85 87 03 Batiment 121, Universite Paris XI fax : (+33) 01 69 85 87 01 91405 ORSAY Cedex FRANCE www : http://www.medoc-ias.u-psud.fr/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What's NeXT for Apple? Message-ID: <8D123B8.09B8000121.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 15:52:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 What's NeXT for Apple? 01/27/97 Microprocessor Report With the disclosure of Apple's new operating-system strategy, the company has finally begun filling the strategic vacuum created when Copland was abandoned last year. Apple's plan deserves credit for being bold and innovative, but it also means Mac applications will never have the full benefit of a protected, multitasking operating system unless they are rewritten (though Apple is working on tools to ease this transition). The new OS, code-named Rhapsody, is not an enhanced Macintosh but rather a new platform that offers Macintosh compatibility. The success of the OS plan is also a critical issue for PowerPC: with Windows NT on PowerPC all but abandoned, the volume desktop future for PowerPC lies entirely with Apple's software. Unfortunately, the new OS strategy is unlikely to lead to significant market share growth for Apple. Furthermore, applications written for Rhapsody will be easily ported to other operating systems and processor architectures, reducing the proprietary lock PowerPC has had on Macintosh applications. What does this mean for Mac users? For the next year and a half--or longer, if, as seems likely, the software schedule slips--Mac OS will continue to lack key modern OS features. Starting in mid-1998, Mac users will have the choice of staying with the old OS or moving to Rhapsody. Rhapsody is sure to have far greater memory requirements than Mac OS; NextStep currently requires 32M, and it would not be surprising if Rhapsody requires significantly more to run well. This means the vast majority of the installed base of Macintosh systems will require memory upgrades to handle the new OS. Education and home users, long the core of Apple's market, may find the increased memory requirements to be onerous, if not prohibitive. Rhapsody will also require new drivers for peripherals, such as scanners and backup devices. Users with devices from companies that have disappeared, or that have dropped Mac support, may find they can't use these devices under the new operating system. Most Mac OS applications will run within the so-called compatibility box, but all the limitations of the old OS remain. For example, any application can crash the entire compatibility box. The only improvement from the current situation is that just the compatibility box, rather than the entire system, would need to be restarted. Apple claims applications will run at least as fast in the compatibility box as under the native Mac OS, due to the faster underlying I/O structure and kernel. To get the benefits of Rhapsody, applications must be written to the OpenStep APIs. OpenStep offers a very nice development environment, including a powerful set of Web development tools, but it is far outside the mainstream and has had little success outside of large corporate in-house developers. Apple hopes its evangelism and higher volumes will make OpenStep a far bigger success, but this remains to be seen. Apple is fragmenting its already modest market share into two APIs; developers targeting Rhapsody will have, at least initially, only a fraction of the already small Macintosh market share available to them. The user scenario for switching to Rhapsody will be similar, in many ways, to the switch to Power Macs. At first, users will run most applications in the compatibility box and gain little benefit from the new platform. In time, more software (especially high-end applications, such as publishing and multimedia development tools) will become available in native Rhapsody versions. The big question is how long this transition will take--and indeed, whether the majority of applications will ever be ported to Rhapsody. Apple has committed to supporting Next's existing products, which provide the OpenStep APIs on top of Windows NT and various flavors of Unix. If Apple continues to support OpenStep as a cross-platform API, it could increase developer appeal by enabling developers to support Windows NT and Rhapsody with the same effort. However, this would leave Rhapsody's applications undifferentiated. Apple could add features to Rhapsody without offering them in the NT version of OpenStep, which would provide differentiation for Apple but weaken the developer proposition. Mac developers and users facing the tumultuous, multiyear transition to Rhapsody are likely to look more intensely than ever at shifting their efforts to Windows. Even if many applications move to the OpenStep APIs, users probably will have the option of running most of those applications under NT. Users of OpenStep applications will have a choice between an x86 system running NT, with the additional bonus of Windows applications, or a PowerPC system running Rhapsody, with the additional bonus of Mac applications. Apple is, in essence, allowing Mac OS to slowly fade away while building its future on the Next platform. Although this strategy may enable Apple to build a sustainable niche, it pushes today's Macintosh even further into the fringe. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple OS Strategy Message-ID: <8D123B8.09B8000120.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 15:52:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple Offers New OS Strategy 01/27/97 Microprocessor Report Apple has, at long last, laid out its new operating-system strategy and taken the first step toward implementing that strategy by acquiring Next Software. Apple's plan leads to a modern, object-oriented operating system replete with all the right buzzwords. Unfortunately, the benefits of the new OS will accrue only to applications written for a new application programming interface (API) based on Next's OpenStep API. Macintosh applications will be supported only within a compatibility box that carries with it all of the disadvantages of the current Mac OS. The new operating system, code-named Rhapsody, will include Next's OpenStep software, extended with a few key Mac APIs, such as QuickTime and OpenDoc, and a version of Mac OS for compatibility with existing applications. An early developer release is promised for the middle of this year, with a limited end-user release by the end of the year. A version with Mac application compatibility and an enhanced Mac-style user interface is promised for mid-1998. This version is expected to be the first of interest to Mac users; the late-'97 version will be used mainly by developers and current users of Next's software. Next's original product was a full operating system, called NextStep, based on the Mach kernel (used in a version of Unix developed at Carnegie-Mellon). More recently, Next shifted its efforts to OpenStep, a "middleware" product that implements Next's development environment and APIs on top of existing operating systems (including Windows NT and various versions of Unix). Although it has been assumed in many press reports that Rhapsody will use the Mach kernel, Apple says this decision has not been made; the Copland kernel and other options are also being considered. With the now-abandoned Copland operating system, Apple had hoped to provide a high degree of compatibility with existing Mac applications while replacing the kernel to provide memory protection and pre-emptive multitasking. Because Mac Toolbox routines are not re-entrant, Copland required a nearly complete rewrite of the operating system. Unfortunately, most Mac applications use undocumented features in the system software, such as directly accessing internal data structures. This misuse has made maintaining compatibility extremely difficult. The new strategy forces existing Mac OS applications to run within a "compatibility box," which is just a copy of Mac OS running as a task under the new operating system. This version of Mac OS will be modified to work through the new kernel instead of communicating directly with the hardware. Apple says application compatibility will be better than it would have been with Copland, and at least 85% of existing applications should run. A key difference from the Copland strategy, however, is that standard Macintosh applications cannot take advantage of the new pre-emptive multitasking and interapplication memory protection. Apple promises that twice-yearly releases of the existing Mac OS will continue through at least the end of the decade. The Harmony release (Mac OS 7.6), just now shipping, has modest stability and performance enhancements. Due in mid-'97 is the Tempo release, which will include a new multithreaded Finder--finally written in native PowerPC code--that will bring to System 7 some of the user-interface enhancements originally created for the ill-fated Copland. For most Mac users, Tempo and its follow-ons--rather than Rhapsody-- will be the most significant developments for at least the next two years. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 dy environment and may only sometimes make it through the walls of the box. What it boils down to is a NeXT-designed operating system running on Apple's PowerPC hardware, with a bone thrown to the old Mac crowd. From a technical point of view, this is workable and potentially great. Put an innovative, robust OS, with proven ability to develop leading-edge applications, and compatibility with a lot of existing software on a fast chip like the PowerPC and you've got something to brag about. From a business and marketing point of view, the picture isn't bright for Apple, but NeXT may be as good as it gets. OpenStep already runs on Intel and Sun chips, and supports things like Microsoft's OLE and the non-Microsoft CORBA standard. As the owner of NeXT, Apple becomes a player in the Intel market. It won't be a big player, but since the Intel market is 20 times the size of the PowerPC market, Apple doesn't need to own it to be healthy. This still won't ensure Apple's future. That, ironically, is probably in Microsoft's hands. Although it could bury Apple next month, Microsoft needs to keep Apple alive to fend off U.S. anti-trust regulators. It may be charity, but it is survival. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Disktab. Need good one for Fujitsu DynaMO Date: 1 Feb 1997 05:59:32 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> As most DynaMO owners know, nextstep doesn't create enough inodes when initializing a 230Mb disk. Does anyone have a WELL tuned disktab for this device? If you do, would you let me know if you're willing to send it to me. I can make up my own disktab, but scsimodes doesn't return all the info (I think it's improper info!?!). I need to make a proper one... Also, with removable devices that read multiple capacities... The DynaMO reads and writes 128, and 230Mb disks...and the new DynaMO deals with 128, 230, 540, and 640Mb capacities... Is it possible to make a disktab that will deal properly with the correct capacity disk? If not this might be something that needs to be extended... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Date: 31 Jan 1997 22:40:54 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5ctsdm$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <notmy-3101971224150001@cu-dialup-1228.cit.cornell.edu> <5ctcdq$lj8$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> Cc: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu In <5ctcdq$lj8$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> Ryan Scott wrote: > notmy@address.org (Collin) wrote: > >Hello Again, > > One thing I find slightly annoying about my NeXT is that even on the > >fastest tracking setting I don't feel like the mouse tracks across the > >screen fast enough for my liking. It seems that the top tracking speed on > > Actually I've found that there is a "trick" to using the NeXT mouse. The faster you > move the mouse from one spot on the mouse pad to another, the *farther* the arrow > moves on the screen. ie, the arrow travel has a nonlinear relationship to the mouse The secrets of the mouse are buried in the NeXT Workspace Manager defaults database. I've experimented with the settings, and for NeXT 25 MHz systems found the following about optimal: Type in a terminal shell: localhost> dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "7 0 1 1 3 2 9 3 25 4 28 5 30 6 32" There is an app on the Web ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/mouseAccel.tar.gz that changes the mouse without having to log out and in. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: another cool thing about Colorizer.bundle for Mail.app Date: Sat, 1 Feb 97 00:28:56 +0100 Organization: Warty Wolfs Message-ID: <9701312329.AA01615@basil.icce.rug.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.1mach v148) In article <199701291700.MAA10521@nerc.com>, you wrote: > Responding To: Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> > Original Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 01:01:27 +0100 > > > (Except that EnhanceMail's online help is nowhere to be found in > > Mail's help panel anymore, but that is probably EMs own fault...) > > Colorizer's help now appears in the Help panel (at least in 3.3) > where EM used to be. > > Eric's bundle must have twiddled with the help-hack for EM. > Renaming the "ColorHelp" entry in Colorizer doesn't solve the > problem either. > > Oh well... I didn't particularly _need_ EM's online help, but I > didn't need it broken either :-( Found the bug in EM, and fixed it... just another thing to look forward to in the next release. <eg> (Before y'all start screaming "When! When! I want it NOW!", um, well, all in due time... Meanwhile, for you DIY types out there, here's the patched EnhanceMail/HelpPanel.m: begin 644 HelpPanel.m.gz M'XL(`$][\C("`ZU4WW/:.!!^]U^QS742&X*-T^9Z<8:;4$(F#PED0A[2X9@; M(2]84R-Y)!G*=/J_=V5L(+U[K(VQO+OZ]L>WJZ@%G59G0(_7^KV71S?<B1P3 M:*Y[S(LG)C$/5Z1['DP.*GA_CRQ%G4!4&AWEBK,\RL4\XFL3#67&),=')O+H M".-\#7%8W1!?75U&<1QU+R'^*_GP,?D0`\=TQ20,OQ7PGMS=HN%:%%8H26Y) MT"]MIG03PH#I'(9N!ZD&&IG%M-:]E`AC;H$P+RZ2^$\'[AR2X:-*Q4(TEI-2 MPDBM`2B*;G)!O\O*$/P#>E#'=<-9(2S+A;%AH06E9Y4,,2T)]8')9<F6=>4& M)'EB_.M>`*.H3[*)9;8T3?R4)FJQ0DF8X-\J"L3"+:%K,2\M!A4=_B"`@2JV M6BPS6X5V#J0%93/4&V$0;"8,+(@UH#<A+I`27VC$#=,8.I#?W261Y_TA5H72 M%DZ.B`ZSDX/\0#I)/<]0YH*#2&'%MG/LI^FD+(H<7?;^Z'5O#:VL60;>=X^J M5._\/!X_4((/BEHNA1Z,QM=.RS.FH6`VFS[V7Y_Z+_</PU$[GIVW>*5VCUB` M_VZ_\_04]A[<1QW_YU*F5,'34Z\F9_I6L43[1%X2YPH62C^C4:7FF#0%<!F< M@%J\;`M,NK/`X7ROP<C>YSVW]9KBXNUV<%UK-AGQYOO\[TH;N(#\%G_7.XO. M`FJ[3J<Q;/'>V3_=L^9S>LB!'9?REW"$W`<]:[8>U?#+<%))?[@_C;;4\E"< M:^\'\79#?.Z@F1M#.(*OK+PVM9X4)G.@0BX3G]JWI`9<,9[]FU4'!+2"W6)' MJ./C37%[O6[PEH?>=/1:%WY>O>Z4'N3,F&1J,%\`=^O9+J6=I%`&^XW:E#0& MQS9U;DY9I=4&B9M=-+7J?[IR6L$XRUE0[8I:,'UYO@>(.W<X[UQ]FL&8QE)( M&M\VF5&0MT+3]"F]34"M46N1(J34])(FF^4;MC6P4?JK5U&/$IBLYAC<^-2I M0KZC9X[4-@A'\^6H-B"LJ4BJ9F,?+<RW=!`@2";6"-/I\4BY#'YIDS`,2504 M6A%-H8/RAX_N_+!*@5DQFF#R7OE2&PE+I=*D$P7@1O\&90I1]-]6^`EX]B_. $F08````` ` end Alternatively you can use Carl Lindbergs workaround for now. [see article <9701310248.AA08582@mailserv.metro.mci.com>]) -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "Any magic sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable __/ _/_/ from a perl script" -- Larry Wall, mangled
From: matthewv@macconnect.com (Matthew Vaughan) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 01:32:28 -0900 Organization: None Distribution: inet Message-ID: <matthewv-0102970132280001@accs-as32-dp12.snfc.grid.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <u02wwsxbea9.fsf@ml.com> <5ctbqd$faj@bamboo.verinet.com> <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de> In article <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de>, ralf@Julia.DE (Ralf Baechle) wrote: > Still better than some Motorola chips where the software has no way > to find out if the available FPU is a function one or just the > wrecked leftover in the embedded variant. > Huh? > Ralf > > -- > A weird imagination is most useful to gain full advantage > of all the features - manpage of amd(8). -- Matthew Vaughan matthewv@macconnect.com Classical Music and Macintosh computers? Yeah, you could say I'm in the minority...
From: dunham@cs.tulane.edu (Andrea Dunham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is TeXutils.tar.Z? Date: 1 Feb 1997 07:43:10 GMT Organization: Elec Engr & Comp Sci Dept, Tulane Univ, New Orleans, LA Message-ID: <5cus6e$lhc@spnode02.tcs.tulane.edu> Hi All, Do you know where I can find TeXutils.tar.Z? I'm looking for detex and MakeIndex, both are bundled in TeXutils.tar.Z. Your help is much appreciated, * AndREa * (dunham@eecs.tulane.edu)
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 31 Jan 97 19:45:40 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan31194540@howard.one.net> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> <SHESS.97Jan28094520@slave.one.net> <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com> In-reply-to: Lyle Seaman's message of Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:59:48 -0500 In article <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com>, Lyle Seaman <lws@transarc.com> writes: Amidst all this talk about compressing swap files, the obvious (?) solution is missed. Why not just identify the unused pages in the swap file and punch holes in it? Ordinarily it might require sneaking in behind UFS, but if you own the OS, you can create a well-defined interface. Or am I missing something? I assume you mean zero out the indirect (or direct for small swapfiles :-) block number references? I'm not certain I like the consequences of that for swapfile locality. If you leave the blocks in place, it's pretty likely that the adjacent blocks on the disk are also the adjacent blocks in the swapfile. If you punch holes in the file, and then later have to fill in the hole, you may end up having to seek all over the disk to the new block. If you make it "smart", then you might as well have addressed the problem correctly in the first place. :-). Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
From: Richard J Appleyard <appleyar@ohsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LISTSERV SW? Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 11:38:42 -0800 Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970201113641.4816E-100000@cornell.ohsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have a LISTSERV installed on their NeXT? I have the old black HW (NeXTStation). Richard. --- Dr Richard J Appleyard, Medical Informatics Fellow AMIA Internet WG Newsletter Editor, Maintainer WWW VL Medicine Index Biomedical Info. Comm. Ctr (BICC), Oregon Health Sciences Univ. appleyar@ohsu.edu, Voice (503) 494-1230, Fax (503) 494-4551 "To err is human, but to really screw things up takes a computer!"
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Date: 1 Feb 1997 12:33:05 -0800 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <sams.854828225@shellx> References: <notmy-3101971224150001@cu-dialup-1228.cit.cornell.edu> <5ctcdq$lj8$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> <5ctsdm$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> I wrote the following program to allow me to play with mouse scale settings somewhat interactively. The interface is not ideal, but it was fine for what I needed. I note one thing: The way the driver works is it takes a mouse movement value and it does a lookup to find a multiplier. If you start with a default multiplier of 1, it causes the mouse to do a nasty jump when you pass the next threshold and move to a multiplier of 2. The mouse really takes off, and this makes doing artwork difficult. (If you're drawing a diagonal line and the y acceleration crosses back and forth across the 2x multiplier and the x value doesn't, the line will be really irregular.) To counteract this, I set the mouse up to start with a multiplier of 2; then the jump to a multiplier of 3 is much smoother. I hope this makes some sense... Cut this file into "ms.m", compile it to "ms" and if you run it without command line arguments it will kind of tell you what to do. cheers, -sam ----------------- cut here for ms.m ----------------------- // ms - get or set mouse scaling factors and thresholds // sam streeper Tue Sep 17 16:24:53 GMT 1996 // This works on NS 3.3; it probably works on all 3.0 // versions but hasn't been tested by me. #import <drivers/event_status_driver.h> #import <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> NXMouseScaling ms; NXEventHandle evs; main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int i; if((evs = NXOpenEventStatus()) == 0) { printf("NXOpenEventStatus failed.\n"); exit(10); } if (argc <= 1) { printf("Current mouse scaling is:\n"); NXGetMouseScaling(evs, &ms); for (i=0; i<ms.numScaleLevels;i++) { printf("%d %d ", ms.scaleThresholds[i], ms.scaleFactors[i]); } printf("\n"); goto done; } if (argc == 2) // ie ms -help { printf("ms: set or get mouse scaling information.\n"); printf("\n"); printf("With no arguments, lists the current mouse scaling factors.\n"); printf("The arguments are threshold-scaling pairs, so (for example)\n"); printf("the list (1 2 4 3 5 4 6 8 7 10) indicates that\n"); printf("a mouse movement of 5 units is multiplied by 4 to yield\n"); printf("a cursor movement of 20 pixels.\n\n"); printf("To save the mouse scaling, use\n"); printf("\tdwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling \"<numberOfPairs> <scalingList>\"\n\n"); printf("For example:\n"); printf("\tdwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling \"5 1 2 4 3 5 4 6 8 7 10\"\n\n"); goto done; } // make sure we have matching pairs of values if ((argc % 2) == 0) { printf("Argument error; list only ascending scaling pairs\n"); goto done; } // make sure that both the scaling points and mult factors ascend only for (i=3; i<argc; i++) { if (atoi(argv[i-2]) >= atoi(argv[i])) { printf("Argument error; list only ascending scaling pairs\n"); goto done; } } // ok, everything checks out, set up the structure and set the scaling ms.numScaleLevels = argc/2; for(i=0; i<ms.numScaleLevels; i++) { ms.scaleThresholds[i] = atoi(argv[2*i+1]); ms.scaleFactors[i] = atoi(argv[2*i+2]); } // set the scaling #ifdef VANNA printf("would set:\n"); for (i=0; i<ms.numScaleLevels;i++) { printf("%d %d ", ms.scaleThresholds[i], ms.scaleFactors[i]); } printf("\n"); #endif NXSetMouseScaling(evs, &ms); done: NXCloseEventStatus(evs); } ----------------- cut here -----------------------
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 15:41:08 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <omwudYm00iWp07Gm80@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> <SHESS.97Jan28094520@slave.one.net> <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com> <5csatt$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> In-Reply-To: <5csatt$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 31-Jan-97 Re: Nextstep Swapspace prob.. by Lee Altenberg@acpub.duke > Maybe a techie could fill me in on what is wrong with this idea, but, why > couldn't you create a paging VM system that had a tree-structure -- e.g. a > /private/vm/swapdir directory, and a linear swapfile for each process? > Since processes are not unlikely to page out in a stack, the per-process > swapfiles would be really able to shrink down when pages were freed. And > when the process is killed, its swapfile is deleted. The process of opening and closing files for every process is rather expensive, and it would lead to a lot of fragmentation on the filesystem (unless you dedicated a filesystem for the swap space). It's a reasonable idea, but the costs associated with it are substantial. The best solution would be to fix the remaining problems that cause the swapspace to grow, and that is hard to do. NEXTSTEP does a good job in most cases with VM, although a few applications (OmniWeb in particular comes to mind) are ill-behaved. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disktab. Need good one for Fujitsu DynaMO Date: 1 Feb 1997 10:57:04 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5cv7i0$3mu@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> Cc: jkheit@cnj.digex.net In <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote: > As most DynaMO owners know, nextstep doesn't create enough inodes > when initializing a 230Mb disk. > > Does anyone have a WELL tuned disktab for this device? If you do, > would you let me know if you're willing to send it to me. I can > make up my own disktab, but scsimodes doesn't return all the info > (I think it's improper info!?!). I need to make a proper one... > Here is one that someone handed to me: FUJITSU M2512A 1314|FUJITSU M2512A 1314Vˆ|FUJITSU M2512A 1314V|FUJITSU M2512A 1314V:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#80:nt#2:ns#1394:ss#1024:rm#3600:\ :fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a:rw=b:\ :pa#0:sa#223002:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#2:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:aa:ta=4.3BSD: Now, you'll notice all those attempts at the name. I never could get NEXTSTEP 3.3/Intel to automatically recognize the disk. Also, I had hideous problems with SCSI ioctrl errors when I tried using a non-default disktab entry. They would appear erratically and caused `media errors' to appear on my hard disks. I thought they were due to the disktab entry, but discovered finally that it was because I needed to disable synchronous negotiation to the MO on my Adaptec 2940 card. I haven't had the problem recur since then. So in summary, this disktab might work just fine. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: z_bensonsm@TITAN.SFASU.EDU Subject: Re: Netscape Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970201145914.195355A-100000@TITAN.SFASU.EDU> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 15:01:52 CST References: <Pine.SGI.3.94.970127114801.12887A-100000@attila.stevens-tech.edu> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SGI.3.94.970127114801.12887A-100000@attila.stevens-tech.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes there is a web browser for NeXT. It is called OmniWeb. You can ftp it form ftp.omnigroup.com. There are a few versions that are not for NeXT. Like for Sun, HP and Intel. When you download it download the ver. with the capital N in the name. That is the one for NeXT Later, Steven. On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, Brian Ward wrote: > Is there any version of netscape that will work with NeXTSTEP? Is there > any good webbrowsers? > > > >
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 16:12:03 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <smwv6XO00iWp07Gnc0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> <SHESS.97Jan28094520@slave.one.net> <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com> In-Reply-To: <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 30-Jan-97 Re: Nextstep Swapspace prob.. by Lyle Seaman@transarc.com > Amidst all this talk about compressing swap files, the obvious (?) > solution is missed. Why not just identify the unused pages in the swap > file and punch holes in it? Ordinarily it might require sneaking in > behind UFS, but if you own the OS, you can create a well-defined > interface. Or am I missing something? Well, you could do so using sparse files, which already exist in the UFS. However, the thing you're missing is that what you suggest won't help very much, since the system already will reuse unused pages in the swapfile. The problem comes from applications which use memory in such a way that the system still thinks it's in use when it's actually not-- ie, a memory or core leak. That's what needs to be fixed. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Date: 1 Feb 1997 13:29:07 -0800 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <sams.854832370@shellx> References: <notmy-3101971224150001@cu-dialup-1228.cit.cornell.edu> <5ctcdq$lj8$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> <5ctsdm$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <sams.854828225@shellx> Woops, I was wrong about the usage of my own utility here. To clarify proper usage: ms help -> prints (poor?) help ms 1 2 4 3 -> sets a couple of mouse scaling values ms -> prints the current values cheers, -sam
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From: "Mark Jenkins" <markj@inwave.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: New to all this Date: 1 Feb 97 16:31:09 -0600 Message-ID: <AF192057-2B54DC@206.101.238.38> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm trying to get some apps to execute that I downloaded. Specifically, any file that I have downloaded .pkg.tar.gz installs but I get an Icon of a computer monitor with a big question mark in it. Being brand new to NeXT & Unix, how do I remedy this situation? TIA Mark Jenkins markj@inwave.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199701311953.UAA00402@next.procom.it> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Mirko Viviani <mirko@procom.it> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 20:53:47 +0100 Subject: Info monitor... Ciao... I need a program to calibrate the monitor... (like color convergence etc) Is there a program like that for NS ? Where I can get it ? Else what can I use (for dos) ? Thank you ! --- Bye, Mirko <mirko@procom.it> (NeXTmail, MIME)
From: nxh665@leonard.anu.edu.au (Nathan Hand) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 31 Jan 1997 17:57:33 GMT Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ctbqd$pdg@clarion.carno.net.au> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001701971957130001@news.quicksilver.com> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> Christopher C. Wood (christw@lexis-nexis.com) wrote: : Compilers hide that from users -- if you're writing code in a compiled : language, you can't tell, and don't care, if you're on a 68000 : processor or a RISC processor. This helped Sun transition from 68K to : SPARC. Whaddyamean helped? The whole point of C being invented was to help make UNIX easy to port. It's a damn design feature! : So you agree that the original IBM PC was an 8-bit machine? And some : 80386-based machines were 16-bit? Who cares? 386's cost $20 including the monitor, 20MB hard disk and keyboard, and that isn't worth buying. They're *history*. -- The network is the computer.
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT to dominate Apple? Date: 1 Feb 1997 22:27:00 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5d0fvk$2ee@news.us.net> References: <8D123B8.09B800011F.uuout@moondog.com> I'm not clear if Mr. Gordon wrote this or he copied it out of the Edmonton Journal. Regardless, the only real "problem" I had with this essay is the following: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) wrote: > NeXT could dominate after Apple-NeXT merger > 01/30/97 > The Edmonton Journal >Today's Mac software will be supported through a "Mac OS compatibility >environment" says Apple. Reading between the lines, this sounds an awful lot >like the dreaded e-word, emulation. In emulation, a computer creates a layer >around an otherwise incompatible program. It's clever technology (it's how >you run Windows on a Mac, and even some older Mac software on PowerPCs) but >it's slow. > >Apple insists that this isn't emulation, that a Mac "box" will be built into >Rhapsody. This is better, but odds are high that the "box" will confine Mac >software to its existing capabilities. I've read about the blue and yellow environments, and I feel that the sudden jump to call the MacOS 7.x compatibility box "emulation" is premature. First, would you call running Windows 3.x apps under Windows NT emulation? Or running DOS applications under Windows NT emulation? In certain respects, yes. Certainly, the kernel running under Windows NT is not the same as DOS nor identical to the Windows 3.x kernel. The calls that the older applications make to the system are no longer handled by the same underpinnings and they must be bound (but not necessarily translated) to calls into the new underpinnings. But emulation? Not quite. First, the CPU won't have to be emulated which is one of the primary bottlenecks (for MacOS PPC apps, that is). Second, since Apple *owns* the MacOS source code, they can rework most of the toolbox code so that calls from legacy applications can be directly bound into calls in the "native" system. No need to translate or parse the existing code. Therefore, using something like the Interceptor API, Apple can have legacy applications draw directly to the screen and sit directly on the kernel. Sure, there will be additional overhead. However, the MacOS as it stands now isn't totally PPC code anyways, and if they can get the compatibility box to be completely PPC, then the performance of Rhapsody running legacy Mac apps might be a wash with the current MacOS. However, they probably don't need to go that far... just have it perform fast enough and well enough until Rhapsody native apps arrive. It certainly isn't like running MAE under a completely different CPU as an application. On another note, they shouldn't spend *too* much resources on getting complete and fast compatibility... they need to move forward with OPENSTEP. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: news@cmc.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce,edm.forsale,eug.forsale,eunet.misc,fido.ger.hardware,fido.ger.musik,fido.wa_4sale,fido7.game,fj.announce,fj.fleamarket.misc,fj.forsale,fj.forsale.comp,fj.forsale.books,fj.net.misc,fl.general,fl.forsale Subject: cmsg cancel <32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Date: 2 Feb 1997 03:10:48 GMT Control: cancel <32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Message-ID: <cancel.32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Sender: "P.B.& A.C." <phil@tidepool.com> Spam cancelled by news@cmc.net
From: Tom Reminga <webmaster@q-net.pair.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 22:24:17 -0600 Organization: Q-Net Internet Services Message-ID: <32F416F1.6576@q-net.pair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please help, I am in desperate need of hardware and software for my NeXT Station. Bellow is the list of items I need... 1 Monoter Cord- Monocrome- I am unsure since I can not even turn on the computer 2 Power Cords- One for Printer and One for computer itself 1 Printer Cords- To connect the printer to the computer 1 CD-Rom Drive- That can be connected to the SCSI port 1 Hard Drive (500 or so megs)- That can be connected to the SCSI port 1 Latest version of the operating system- Developer and user version for a Motorola processer 1 Set of Software- Browser, E-Mail Client, Word Processer, Spread Sheet, any other useful software. 1 A later version of their web development suiet for Motorola I have a Motorola NeXT Station with a Mega Pixel monoter. I also have a NeXT printer(laser). I am unsure of the RAM or Hard Disk space since I am unable to turn the computer on. Also if anyone could direct me to a few good books on NeXT. Thanks Tom Reminga E-Mail me at: mailto: webmaster@q-net.pair.com Q-Net Internet Services http://www.q-net.pair.com
From: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: nn-6.5.1 Date: 2 Feb 1997 07:06:08 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <5d1ed0$d3d@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Is anyone using nn-6.5.1 with NOV over NNTP? I compile the package without a single warning, etc, but the resulting binary can not successfully make a connection to the news server. Running the application results in: Connecting to NNTP server news.cso.uiuc.edu ... Lost connection to NNTP server news.cso.uiuc.edu: Error 0 I've gone through all the docs several times and have still been unsuccessful in getting this to work. Any help would be appreciated, -- Ian P. Cardenas (icardena@uiuc.edu) CCSO Sites Technical Support "I am of the opinion that pizza and beer together are far superior to either in isolation." -James E. Quick on the Apple/NeXT merger
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702011850.NAA12867@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: e84b3a2f00eee4181152577eeca066da - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 97 13:49:56 -0500 Subject: Re: sendmail config? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: e84b3a2f00eee4181152577eeca066da - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: "Jonathan B. Leffert" <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> Original Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:05:22 GMT > I just installed OS 4.1 for intel and now when i use nextmail to > send mail, the mail bounces with a host unknown error. now, dns > stuff is working fine so this seems really bizarre. what kind of > config stuff does sendmail need? If you go to my NeXT page http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next and goto "NeXTStep related web sites" you'll find sendmail installation and configuration instructions. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702011837.NAA12734@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: a1b50c271d9177cfae1202390d07f364 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 97 13:37:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: a1b50c271d9177cfae1202390d07f364 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: clp5@cornell.edu (Collin) Original Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:24:15 -0500 > Anyway, the question is...has anyone written some little patch > that speeds up the mouse tracking speed or is there some other > trick? Here's a program that will allow you to set things much better: ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.README ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.NI.b.README ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: qpdmvn@ohaqerf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-R.Media.for.Sale. Date: 2 Feb 1997 13:19:16 GMT Organization: The.Copy.Cat. Message-ID: <5d248k$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> We have the following CD-R media for sale. Brand: Pioneer Type: Printable Media (Surface is blank for printing or labels) Type: Gold on Green Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.99 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: Maxell Type: Gold on Gold Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.55 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: TDK Type: Gold on Green Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.55 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: Hewlett Packard Type Gold on Gold Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 7.15 Minimum Order: 10 Lifetime Warranty The Copy Cat Shop has all your CD duplication, replication, recorders, software, and media needs. If you have any questions or comments feel free to call. Cordially, The Copy Cat Shop 213-650-1680 213-650-9110 Fax
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5d248k$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Date: 2 Feb 1997 13:24:10 GMT Control: cancel <5d248k$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5d248k$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Sender: qpdmvn@ohaqerf.com Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: CDRMEDIA Original Subject: CD-R.Media.for.Sale.
From: helbig@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: VT240 Terminal Emulator Software Date: 2 Feb 1997 18:06:37 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5d2l3d$crf@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I am looking for terminal software that emulates a VT240 terminal. If anybody knows of any, please email me. I've done a lot of looking but haven't found anything. helbig@ix.netcom.com
From: BABAK@TI.COM (Babak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce Subject: Re: GREAT STUFF AT WHOLESALE PRICES! Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 12:13:12 -0600 Organization: TI Message-ID: <BABAK-0202971213120001@pbbmac.csc.ti.com> References: <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> In article <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com>, "P.B.& A.C." <phil@tidepool.com> wrote: > -- > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > | | > * * > | Looking for some great CD's, | > * videos, books, computer software and more * > | at wholesale prices? Seeing is believing! | > * Check us out! * > | | > * * > | http://www.tidepool.com/becker | > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* you call these a WHOLE SALE price?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce Subject: cmsg cancel <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> Date: 2 Feb 1997 21:11:02 GMT Control: cancel <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> Message-ID: <cancel.32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> Sender: "P.B.& A.C." <phil@tidepool.com> Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970202.84. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970202.84.html for complete report. Original Subject: GREAT STUFF AT WHOLESALE PRICES!
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Vote For Apple/NeXT Message-ID: <8D1429B.09B800012D.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 97 11:07:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 From the 2/1 MACWAY DIGEST: ### Computer Reseller News, a computer dealer weekly magazine that is pretty Mac- hostile (and usually Mac-wrong), conducts a weekly reader poll. This week's poll is "Do resellers feel Apple will increase its market share after the company offered its Rhapsody operating system?" vote YES by calling 1-800-345-CRNY (YEA) vote no by calling 1-800-345-crnn (boo) Its a free call-in and I think Evangelistas ought to weigh in on this one. Call soon, as the poll closes at the end of the month. ________________ Do you believe in Macintosh? Please check out: <http://www.evangelist.macaddict.com/> Join the EvangeList mailing list by sending an email to: <evangelist@macway.com>. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: "P.B.& A.C." <phil@tidepool.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce,edm.forsale,eug.forsale,eunet.misc,fido.ger.hardware,fido.ger.musik,fido.wa_4sale,fido7.game,fj.announce,fj.fleamarket.misc,fj.forsale,fj.forsale.comp,fj.forsale.books,fj.net.misc,fl.general,fl.forsale Subject: cmsg cancel <32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Control: cancel <32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 13:15:39 -0800 Organization: West Coast Online's News Server - Not responsible for content Message-ID: <32F503FB.6E07@tidepool.com> References: <32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message was cancelled from within Mozilla.
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Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970202.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970123.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970116.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 02 Feb 1997 15:00:00 -0700 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trimedia v. MMX Message-ID: <8D14301.09B800012E.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 97 12:49:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 APPLE TO LAUNCH TRIMEDIA CHIP TO HEAD OFF INTEL'S MMX CHALLENGE Chip producers and computer makers are vying with each other to develop the most powerful multimedia processor on the market, and the pace is growing faster and more furious. When market leader Intel Corp. of Santa Clara, Cal., launched the MMX multimedia extension chip, Apple Computer of Cupertino, Cal., already up against it, faced another serious challenge. It was a bid by Intel and Microsoft for major player status in a multimedia market dominated by Apple. Apple responded to the challenge by heralding an even more powerful multimedia chip, the TriMedia. The TriMedia, developed by Dutch electronics group Philips, is said to mark a milestone in Apple's strategy of consolidating its Power Macintosh product line's position in the graphics market. It is a newly-developed 32-bit processor that will ease the burden of data- intensive computation on the Power Mac's main processor, the Power PC chip and considerably accelerate the speed at which the Power PC performs complex operations in programs such as Photoshop. "TriMedia is of great significance for the wider user market," says Geoff Ballew of US market research company Dataquest. "It will enable all other microprocessor architectures to achieve improvements in performance for multimedia applications." Trimedia, Ballew says, has enabled Apple to come up with an adequate response to the MMX chip. Intel and Microsoft are hopeful that the new MMX technology will bridge the Pentium PC's performance gap in the graphics sector and, at the same time, prove a powerful sales argument. The MMX, or multimedia extension, enables the computer to use a single instruction for more than one set of data simultaneously instead of working through them consecutively. This technique is known as SIMD, or single instruction multiple data. This performance boost would make Windows PCs interesting for multimedia authors and professional graphics users who have so far preferred to rely on an Apple Macintosh. The Pentium processor complete with MMX is reported to speed up conventional programs by a mere ten per cent or so, but some multimedia applications can be run up to 60 per cent faster, and ideally the acceleration is between 400 and 500 per cent. The main product categories that are set to benefit from the new technology are games, educational software and entertainment. But the MMX processor does not fire up fully until it is used together with specially developed MMX software. A new MMX version of the benchmark colour graphics and prepress program Photoshop was presented to coincide with the launch of the new Intel chip. Unlike the MMX chip, the TriMedia functions as a co-processor, easing the burden of complex computations on the CPU. As Linley Gwennap, editor of the Sebastopol, Cal., "Microprocessor Report," told "MacWeek" magazine, this is a significant advantage over MMX technology: "The Intel processor with MMX offers solid performance in multimedia applications, but TriMedia is 100-per-cent optimised for this sector." The TM-1, the first TriMedia chip, will reportedly handle about four billion operations per second, which is several times the number the MMX can handle. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Reorg, Jobs, Kernel fight Message-ID: <8D14301.09B800012F.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 97 12:49:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Sweeping Layoffs Expected at Apple Major reorganization will streamline divisions, create spot on executive council for Steven Jobs, sources say. 02/01/97 Los Angeles Times Just weeks after reporting one of its biggest losses in company history, Apple Computer Inc. on Monday is expected to announce a sweeping reorganization that will include laying off up to a quarter of its staff and creating a position on the decision-making executive council for Apple's legendary co-founder, Steven Jobs. Jobs rejoined Apple as an informal technology advisor to Chairman and Chief Executive Gilbert Amelio in late December as part of the computer maker's deal to acquire Next Software Inc. Software from Next, which was founded by Jobs after he was ousted from Apple, will form the basis of a radically new version of Apple's Macintosh operating system. Up to 3,000 employees out of 13,000 will be laid off, and a hiring freeze will be imposed in an effort to bring the company's costs in line with dramatically diminishing sales. As part of Amelio's restructuring, sources said late Friday, Apple's half a dozen business units will be streamlined into three product divisions focusing on key market segments: desktop publishing, Internet content creation and education, where Apple continues to have a strong constituency. Under the old structure, the business units operated almost as separate companies, each with their own marketing and engineering organization. Amelio will create an umbrella marketing and research and development organization to serve its three divisions. Final details of the reorganization were being worked out Friday. An announcement is scheduled for Monday, two days before Apple's shareholder meeting at company headquarters in Cupertino, Calif. The restructuring, the second since Amelio took over the troubled computer maker a year ago, is an attempt to cut overhead by 20% so Apple could be profitable on between $7 billion and $8 billion in annual sales, down from the $9.83 billion it posted only a year ago. Amelio must stem the erosion of sales and guide Apple through what is perhaps the greatest product transition in the company's history: upgrading the Macintosh operating system, which revolutionized the PC and put Apple on the map. Last summer, Amelio and Apple's chief technology officer, Ellen Hancock, pulled the plug on Copland, Apple's $500-million project to upgrade the Macintosh operating system, when it became obvious it could not be finished by the end of 1996, despite years of work. But insiders say Jobs and Hancock have argued bitterly over the "kernel," the code that will become the core of the operating system. Jobs has pushed Hancock to swiftly adopt Next's kernel and move to other pieces of the software, especially the modification needed to make Next's software compatible with that of the Macintosh. Apple has promised that new machines would be able to run older Macintosh applications in a window on the computer's screen. But Hancock is conducting a study of Next's kernel, comparing it with Copland's as well as Sun Microsystems Inc.'s Solaris. She had promised that a decision on a kernel would be made by the end of January, but nothing has been announced. Should Hancock choose a kernel other than Next's, Apple's engineers would face the difficult job of merging software from two different sources. "What Steve does best is stir the pot," said a source close to both Jobs and Hancock. "You know Steve is his way or no way." With an aggressive delivery schedule--software developers have been promised a preliminary version of the software as early as summer and a completed version by the end of the year--time is of the essence. "To pull this off, they're going to have to execute brilliantly," said John Warnock, chairman of Adobe Systems Inc., a longtime Macintosh software developer. Amelio, the self-described corporate "transformation" expert, has found Apple a stubborn company to turn around. After laying off 1,500 employees and posting a modest $25-million profit in the quarter ended in September, he pronounced the company on the road to recovery. But Apple shocked Wall Street during the quarter ended in December--usually the most robust for personal computer makers--by posting a $120-million loss on sales of $2.1 billion, about a third less than revenue for the same quarter a year ago, as consumers stayed away from the Macintosh in droves. Apple's sales and market share are declining at an alarming rate. According to San Jose market research firm Dataquest Inc., Apple's U.S. shipments plunged 30% in 1996 while PC shipments overall increased by 17.8%. At a company meeting two weeks ago, Amelio's frustration with earnings was evident, and he took sharp aim at Apple's ineffective marketing efforts. "It's very tempting when you've got a bloody nose to back away from the fight, " Amelio told employees. "That is exactly the time when you've got to go back at it with renewed vigor. I've told our marketing folks that I don't want anymore of this wimp" nonsense. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: harryt@ici.net (Harry Tirrell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IP spoofing Date: 31 Jan 1997 21:07:31 GMT Organization: The Internet Connection Message-ID: <5ctmuj$cvf$1@bashir.ici.net> Can any one tell me if IP spoofing software is available for NeXTStep? I would like to use the NeXT as a barrier between the Internet and my local Lan. I am particualarily looking for daemons for http, ftp telnet and irc. Thanks Harry harryt@pern.com
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 + Qmail - Kill the evil sendmail Date: 3 Feb 1997 04:55:07 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-i-63.usc.edu Message-ID: <5d3r3b$49q@usc.edu> References: <x7oheab7x4.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> <5cobfc$a9@usc.edu> <x7lo9cgky8.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Cc: mycroft@datasphere.net In <x7lo9cgky8.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Mycroft wrote: > Matthew- > Ummn. I'm not really sure what you mean...if you could clarify > your question, maybe I could help =] If it's related to Mail.app, > Timothy Luomat (TjL) is your best bet...he knows a whole lot more then > me, about NeXTStep =] If it's a general Unix question, a security > question, or a Qmail/Sendmail/WhateverMTA question, I'll probably be > able to answer it (hopefully) =] Weeelll, it's taken me a bit of time to get back into the newsgroups. Mycroft- I had qmail all set up on my machine and running fine, at least for incoming mail, and outgoing mail from the command line. But, if, through Mail.app, I sent a message to an address of the form: "Matthew Reichman" <reichman@usc.edu> Then there would be delivery problems and the mail wouldn't be delivered, as it would be delivering to some strange rewriting of that address format, which, I gathered, had something to do with Mail.app. I tried qmail with Eloquent.app and had no problem sending out mail. So I compared Mail.app's outgoing address instructions with Eloquent's and I think Eloquent would strip the address down to: <reichmnan@usc.edu> So, just to clarify even more, if I sent mail via commandline qmail using the full address (the first ex above), it would go out just fine. It was only with Mail.app. So, if you're using Mail.app with Qmail, I'd like to know how you skirted around this problem, or, if you didn't have this problem, then what version Qmail, what version Mail.app, and what configuration stuff. I tried everything and talked to everybody and didn't get anywhere. I would certainly like to switch over to Qmail, that's for sure. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 + Qmail - Kill the evil sendmail Date: 3 Feb 1997 00:23:43 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <5d409f$2ed@bobby.cs.utexas.edu> References: <x7oheab7x4.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> <5cobfc$a9@usc.edu> <x7lo9cgky8.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> <5d3r3b$49q@usc.edu> Ident-User: liuyi In article <5d3r3b$49q@usc.edu>, Matthew N. Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> wrote: >... >I had qmail all set up on my machine and running fine, at least for >incoming mail, and outgoing mail from the command line. But, if, through >Mail.app, I sent a message to an address of the form: > > "Matthew Reichman" <reichman@usc.edu> > >Then there would be delivery problems and the mail wouldn't be delivered, >as it would be delivering to some strange rewriting of that address >format, which, I gathered, had something to do with Mail.app. I tried No solution to your problem, but I've just tried my own address of the form "Yi Liu" <liuyi@crystalball.com> "Yi Liu" <liuyi@cs.utexas.edu> on my machine using Mail3.3 w/ sendmail8.8.5. Mail.app delivered the mail correctly, as it should do to this legal form of addr. (RFC822?) I have no experience with qmail whatsoever, so I don't know anything about how it is configured. But I don't think Mail.app is choking on the address. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702021952.OAA06638@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 97 14:51:55 -0500 Subject: New PPPUP script available Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary I have made what I consider a highly flexible, semi-robust (ie checks for problems), readable, easily confiurable script to control bringing up a PPP connection. Various controls are available: - Turn off call waiting - specify phone number at commandline - debugging for pppd - change port (ie /dev/cufa) - domain name - mru - mtu - serial port speed (ie 38400) - wait for dial tone before dialing-out - idle time * - ipparam arguments * + * = (under pppd 2.3 only) + = "ipparam" is a new feature which allows the PPP connection to be brought up to run a specific command (like fetching mail) and then brought down. With this script you can tell which program to run (see end of the script for a helpful hint on how to best use this feature) The script is available on the web: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/pppup.tjl and via email. To get it via email send me a message with the SUBJECT send-mime pppup.tjl Hope you enjoy it. It's one of my biggest/most complex scripts ever, but it has been working well for me for a solid week. YMMV, use only as directed, no promises, disclaimers ad nauseum. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: grotskos@compulink.gr (Gabriel Rotskos) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 09:36:44 GMT Organization: CompuLink Network S.A. Message-ID: <32f0b06b.22787016@news.compulink.gr> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> On 28 Jan 1997 11:18:39 -0700, jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John Stevens) wrote: >The 68008. Which was used in a late model Sinclair computer, the >color one (can't for the life of me remember whether is was called >the Rainbow, or some other kitschy "color" name). No, the Spectrum (that was the name) used the Z80. The 68008 was used in the Sinclair QL (for Quantum Leap). Gabriel
From: I donno <chu@ipoline.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 15:27:11 -0500 Organization: InterPacific Online Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32F4F89F.1B52@ipoline.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <u02wwsxbea9.fsf@ml.com> <5ctbqd$faj@bamboo.verinet.com> <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de> <matthewv-0102970132280001@accs-as32-dp12.snfc.grid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matthew Vaughan wrote: > > In article <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de>, ralf@Julia.DE (Ralf > Baechle) wrote: > > > Still better than some Motorola chips where the software has no way > > to find out if the available FPU is a function one or just the > > wrecked leftover in the embedded variant. > > > Huh? > > > Ralf > > > > -- Actually I found MS Office to be very fast and effecient. I used both OFFICE 95/97 and like them very much. WordPerfect and Lotus are good, MS Office is EXCEPTIONAL EXCELLENT.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: setting dns Message-ID: <E4zxE7.J7@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <glenn-ya02408000R2201971616430001@news.europa.com> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:06:06 GMT In article <glenn-ya02408000R2201971616430001@news.europa.com> glenn@nowsoft.com (Tod L. Glenn) writes: > Greetings, > > I am trying to determine how to set the dns address on NeXTstep > 3.3. I found where to configure IP address and router. Any help > is appreciated. This is a lone NeXT box in a mac and PC shop. > Have you already discovered the online sysadmin manual /NextLibrary/Bookshelves/SysAdmin.bshlf? -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
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From: jhsterne@mindspring.com.nospam (Jason S.) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: cmsg cancel <jhsterne-ya02408000R2101972141330001@news.mindspring.com> Control: cancel <jhsterne-ya02408000R2101972141330001@news.mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 08:23:09 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Distribution: inet Message-ID: <jhsterne-ya02408000R0302970823090001@news.mindspring.com> cancel <jhsterne-ya02408000R2101972141330001@news.mindspring.com>
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone successfully installed Xnext? Date: 3 Feb 1997 15:33:11 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5d50fn$qc9@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <iwkwwsvny20.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> In article <iwkwwsvny20.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> writes: > I was unable to make it work. I have installed it on two separate > occasions (just to make sure I didn't make some silly mistake the > first time) with the same outcome: the X server is never able to > start. I've tried emailing the author, but he has never responded. Worked like a charm on all i386 installations I've tried. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Date: 3 Feb 97 08:55:15 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb3085515@howard.one.net> References: <notmy-3101971224150001@cu-dialup-1228.cit.cornell.edu> <5ctcdq$lj8$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> <5ctsdm$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <sams.854828225@shellx> In-reply-to: sams@best.com's message of 1 Feb 1997 12:33:05 -0800 In article <sams.854828225@shellx>, sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) writes: I wrote the following program to allow me to play with mouse scale settings somewhat interactively. The interface is not ideal, but it was fine for what I needed. I once wrote a similar program, but it has a NeXTSTEP UI on it. There's a link at http://w3.one.net/~shess/, it's compiled quad-fat. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
From: matthewv@macconnect.com (Matthew Vaughan) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 23:04:11 -0900 Organization: None Distribution: inet Message-ID: <matthewv-0202972304110001@accs-as32-dp06.snfc.grid.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <u02wwsxbea9.fsf@ml.com> <5ctbqd$faj@bamboo.verinet.com> <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de> <matthewv-0102970132280001@accs-as32-dp12.snfc.grid.net> <32F4F89F.1B52@ipoline.com> In article <32F4F89F.1B52@ipoline.com>, I donno <chu@ipoline.com> wrote: > Matthew Vaughan wrote: > > > > In article <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de>, ralf@Julia.DE (Ralf > > Baechle) wrote: > > > > > Still better than some Motorola chips where the software has no way > > > to find out if the available FPU is a function one or just the > > > wrecked leftover in the embedded variant. > > > > > Huh? > > > > > Ralf > > > > > > -- > Actually I found MS Office to be very fast and effecient. I used both > OFFICE 95/97 and like them very much. WordPerfect and Lotus are good, > MS Office is EXCEPTIONAL EXCELLENT. I was in no way questioning how well software runs on Intel machines. I was questioning Ralf's strange statement regarding the FPUs on "Motorola" chips. (I assume he means the 68040?) If so, the chip in no way hides whether or not it has a FPU. The 68040 has one, the 68LC040 does not. (The 68040 was used in high-end Quadra models, the 68LC040 was used in low-cost LC and Performa models, and PowerBooks. This was very similar to the use of 80486 vs. 486SX in the PC world.) I have no idea what he mans by "wrecked leftover in the embedded variant." If he's speaking of an imbedded variety of 68000-series chip used in automobiles, etc., then it has no bearing on personal computers. Such microcontrollers generally have different capabilities than their CPU relatives, capabilities which are appropriate to the tasks they will be used for, and I've never heard Ford or GM complaining. If he is speaking of Macintosh programs, then they can test for the presence of a FPU, and make use of it accordingly. (Apple reccommends that programmers use Apple's somewhat slower math routines, for the sake of compatibility. In this case, the program would not know, or need to know, whether or not a FPU is present.) -- Matthew Vaughan matthewv@macconnect.com Classical Music and Macintosh computers? Yeah, you could say I'm in the minority...
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: hans@vuur (Hans Mulder) Subject: Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Message-ID: <E51F3C.73A@icgned.nl> Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: IC Group References: <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> <5br11o$h14@fridge-nf0.shore.net> <5brdcu$cg4@news.xmission.com> Distribution: inet Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:25:59 GMT In <5brdcu$cg4@news.xmission.com> Don Yacktman (don@globalobjects.com) wrote: >royalta@jenike.com wrote: >> In <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> >> Steve Jones wrote: >> > I was just curious, did next have the "recycle bin" before >> > Win95 came out? >> I can't remember if it was introduced in NeXTSTEP 2.0 or 3.0 -- >> originally it was called a Black Hole. In any case, 3.0 came >> out in 1991-92 which was obviously many years before win95. >The Black Hole was in 1.0; the recycler came with 2.0, which was >released 4Q 1990 with the first slabs. There is still a hack out >there which lets you change the recycler icons back into the >black hole--or you can choose a shredder, a toilet, or others. >If you know where to put the tiffs, it is wasy to change. I think the file you want to play with is /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/recycler.tiff -- HansM
From: kc@ignem.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 2 Feb 1997 20:00:43 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5d2rpb$h6u@gaea.titan.org> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <omwudYm00iWp07Gm80@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : [...] NEXTSTEP does a good job in : most cases with VM, although a few applications (OmniWeb in particular : comes to mind) are ill-behaved. What's ill-behaved about OmniWeb? -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: fbastin@leland.Stanford.EDU (francois bastin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: fortran compiler? Date: 3 Feb 1997 16:08:34 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5d5um2$cl3@elaine6.Stanford.EDU> Is there a free fortran compiler around? (I am running NeXTStep 3.0) A fortran 90 compiler would be even better but 77 would do. Thanks for any help. Francois
From: svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to mount ext2 from same drive as next root? Date: 3 Feb 1997 22:26:12 GMT Organization: "SNET dial access service" Message-ID: <5d5om4$6pk@goofy.snet.net> How do I use vmount (in combination with NFS) to mount an ext2 partition on the same drive as root Next partition? I am trying to do this on a non-networked (dial-up only) machine and do not know what to do to NFS and/or Network Manager to get this to work. Have looked at documentation with vmount, but not descriptive enough about what to do with NFS. Can anybody provide brief outline or point me in right direction? Much thanks Sven
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 17:01:12 -0600 From: billw@xpense.com Subject: Help, I need some :) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <855009608.6063@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Hello all... here is the deal: I have a copy of 3.1 on CD. I have a NeXT Station with 3.3 on the drive. It is only a 100mb drive. I just bought a 575mb drive. here are my questions: is there anyway to get the 3.3 from my existing drive to the new 545mb one? is there anyone who would offer to load 3.3 onto the drive for me? anyone in the seattle area who has a 3.3 cd rom i can borrow? thanks for any help you may be able to offer... bill billw@xpense.com -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Control: cancel <BABAK-0202971213120001@pbbmac.csc.ti.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce From: news@mattress.atww.org Subject: cmsg cancel <BABAK-0202971213120001@pbbmac.csc.ti.com> Sender: BABAK@TI.COM (Babak) Organization: - Message-ID: <cancel.BABAK-0202971213120001@pbbmac.csc.ti.com> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:44:37 GMT Subject line: Re: GREAT STUFF AT WHOLESALE PRICES! This post was cancelled for one or more of the following: 1. It was out of area, off-topic, or inappropriate for a local dc.* newsgroup. 2. It was a duplicate copy of another posting. 3. ECRP violation.
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: IP spoofing Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 23:46:52 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580000302972346520001@news.tiac.net> References: <5ctmuj$cvf$1@bashir.ici.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5ctmuj$cvf$1@bashir.ici.net>, harryt@ici.net (Harry Tirrell) wrote: > Can any one tell me if IP spoofing software is available for NeXTStep? I > would like to use the NeXT as a barrier between the Internet and my > local Lan. I am particualarily looking for daemons for http, ftp telnet and irc. If by spoofing you mean relaying IP messages as though they came from the relay, you can use the Firewall Toolkit which is free. It is said that one (or more) of the daemons (httpd?) doesn't compile properly. I don't think it handles IRC though there may be a workaround. Apache 1.1 is supposed to be compatible (1.0 was ported by NeXT) and includes proxying for http and ftp. The socks approach is preferred by many, but requires compatible apps, which are not widely available on Mac and NeXT. Proxynet is another approach to handling the TCP services, but hasn't been ported and relies on kernel calls that don't seem to be documented for NS. If you find a wonderful solution, please let me know ;-). Barney Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Omniweb - why so slow ? Message-ID: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Organization: Disorganization Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 21:47:04 GMT I'm running the latest (2.5b2) Omniweb on a standard 25MHZ 040 cube. Loading a single html-page (~ 50 k ), no pictures, takes about 45 seconds to load. The page consists of one big table, 6 columns, about 60 rows. I don't see any reason, why this takes so long. There is enough memory in the machine and this page is not really special. Poor programming or a NeXT flaw ? Netscape can do this page in a second.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:21:11 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kmxnT7i00iWS01Akkk@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <omwudYm00iWp07Gm80@andrew.cmu.edu> <5d2rpb$h6u@gaea.titan.org> In-Reply-To: <5d2rpb$h6u@gaea.titan.org> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 2-Feb-97 Re: Nextstep Swapspace prob.. by Ken Case@ignem.omnigroup > Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: >: [...] NEXTSTEP does a good job in most cases with VM, although a few >: applications (OmniWeb in particular comes to mind) are ill-behaved. > > What's ill-behaved about OmniWeb? Someone else from omnigroup.com asked me this privately, and I'll repeat what I said to him: OmniWeb is the only app that will make my machine with 80 MB of RAM swap. When I leave OmniWeb running for an extended period of time (say a week or more), OmniWeb consumes what appears to be an unbounded amount of VM-- I've seen it with a VSIZE of 580 MB before I quit and restarted the app. NetSurfer never uses more than 100 MB; neither does any other app that I run. Maybe you can provide a reasonable explanation for this behavior, but to me it looks like OmniWeb leaks memory. -Chuck PS: However, NeXT's VM implementation should do a better job of handling OmniWeb's VM requirements-- I'm not blaming OmniWeb in particular, but the combination of the two.... Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help, I need some :) Date: 4 Feb 1997 08:07:40 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970204080700.DAA24427@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <855009608.6063@dejanews.com> Tried e-mailing, didn't work. What I did in a similar situation was attach the new hard drive to the system (at SCSI ID1), then run Buildisk.app on it, which installed the system on the new hard drive. If you put stuff in the /Nextapps directory, it'll be transferred along with the system. Then, I unplugged the old one. The nice thing about having done this, is if I ever have a hard drive crash, I can plug in the old one, and have the system boot. Hope this helps! William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Sam Chung" <sam@in2nett.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to compress files as *.exe Date: 4 Feb 1997 00:35:54 GMT Organization: Chung's Family Message-ID: <01bc1232$b3a2ffc0$63e5e6cf@sam> I have a typing software and I want to compress all the file as *.exe. Just like what we download from the net and we just need to type the file name and it will extract by itself without using pkzip or ARJ. -- SAM Chung http://www.in2nett.com/sam sam@in2nett.com .
From: gslater@popa.melbpc.org.au (Gordon Slater) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HDD > 1Gb Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 03:07:33 GMT Organization: Melbourne PC User Group (Australia) Message-ID: <5d78sn$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> I've gone out and blown my budget on a new 2Gb EIDE drive but can't install NS 3.3 on it. The installation goes OK right up until the drive is about to be formatted, then the whole install dies with a WS something-or-other error. I've managed to install NS on an old 540Mb drive but I'd rather use the larger hard disk. Any ideas?
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 4 Feb 1997 15:57:03 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5d7m8g$ssf@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> In article <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) writes: > > I'm running the latest (2.5b2) Omniweb on a standard 25MHZ 040 cube. > > Loading a single html-page (~ 50 k ), no pictures, takes about 45 seconds > to load. The page consists of one big table, 6 columns, about 60 rows. There you go. OmniWeb is slow at table rendering. Unfortunately, WAY too many HTML authors use tables not for true tables, but for layout design. So... many pages are a little slow in OmniWeb. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: "Victoria Y. Tong" <vicky@benatong.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT to dominate Apple? Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 10:58:51 -0500 Organization: BenaTong Message-ID: <32F75CBB.57C@benatong.com> References: <8D123B8.09B800011F.uuout@moondog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SHEPPARD GORDON wrote: > ----Big Snip ---- > is the prime development architect for Rhapsody? Avie Tevanian. And what did > he do before? He headed design and development of OpenStep and WebObjects. > How many seconds do you think he will spend bringing himself up to speed on > the debris of Copland? I'd guess somewhere around 120. After that, the task > of porting the NeXT operating system to the PowerPC platform begins. > Been there, done that. At the last NeXTWorld in SF. ('95?) Mr. Jobs stated that the PowerPC port was waiting on the shelf for the correct hardware manufacturer to ask for it. ;-) I don't think it would take too long to update it to '97 standards... -- Victoria Y. Tong BenaTong The only woman in America whose bread machine is on a UPS!
From: Frank Bandle <fbandle@mmc.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fax - Broadcast with NeXT Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 14:28:23 +0000 Organization: More and More Communication GmbH Message-ID: <32F89907.1667@mmc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello i have the following problem. We want to do Fax-Broadcasting with NeXT. We are merging adresses with a document, then we want to fax these documents during the night to our clients. Printing is no problem - WriteNow, OpenWrite - is working fine. but faxing (sending later, the document to the correct client) I don´t know how ? Does anybody has an idea how we can do this ? Thank you Frank -------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Bandle EMail: fbandle@mmc.de More and More Communication GmbH Fon : 089 - 96276 - 0 Po.Box 1333 Fax : 089 - 96276 - 151 85731 Ismaning / Munich W3 : http://www.mmc.de --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: frank@miranda (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 4 Feb 1997 17:31:51 GMT Organization: ipc, U of Tuebingen, Germany Message-ID: <5d7rq7$drp@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <omwudYm00iWp07Gm80@andrew.cmu.edu> <5d2rpb$h6u@gaea.titan.org> <kmxnT7i00iWS01Akkk@andrew.cmu.edu> Cc: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu In <kmxnT7i00iWS01Akkk@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 2-Feb-97 Re: Nextstep > Swapspace prob.. by Ken Case@ignem.omnigroup > > Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: > >: [...] NEXTSTEP does a good job in most cases with VM, although a few > >: applications (OmniWeb in particular comes to mind) are ill-behaved. > > > > What's ill-behaved about OmniWeb? > > Someone else from omnigroup.com asked me this privately, and I'll repeat > what I said to him: > > OmniWeb is the only app that will make my machine with 80 MB of RAM > swap. When I leave OmniWeb running for an extended period of time (say > a week or more), OmniWeb consumes what appears to be an unbounded amount > of VM-- I've seen it with a VSIZE of 580 MB before I quit and restarted > the app. > > NetSurfer never uses more than 100 MB; neither does any other app that I > run. Maybe you can provide a reasonable explanation for this behavior, > but to me it looks like OmniWeb leaks memory. > > -Chuck > > PS: However, NeXT's VM implementation should do a better job of handling > OmniWeb's VM requirements-- I'm not blaming OmniWeb in particular, but > the combination of the two.... > > I second that. Opening e.g. a large table in OmniWeb will pronto enlarge the swapfile on a 32 MByte machine. I remember several occasions when this has downed my machine by a single klick on an URL (because it was only a few 10 MByte left on the root partition where the swap files resides in my setup and OW took all this for lunch). OW seems to suck large amounts of memory when - it renders a large table, the more entries the more memory it seems to need. - it renders a large image. Whats really annoying: This memory is not fully reclaimed (?) and the VSIZE of OW keeps growing and growing. (Don't tell me this doesn't matter, because I can see my swapfile growing too...) Do not misunderstand me, I appreciate the efforts of OmniGroup on building and maintaining OW very much and in my opinion OW is still a bit ahead of Netsurfer (which I use too) stability, ease-of-use and feature wise. But maybe they can do something about the memory hog problem to make OW an even better program. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: matthewv@macconnect.com (Matthew Vaughan) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 01:19:20 -0900 Organization: None Distribution: inet Message-ID: <matthewv-0402970119210001@accs-as32-dp08.snfc.grid.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <32f0b06b.22787016@news.compulink.gr> In article <32f0b06b.22787016@news.compulink.gr>, grotskos@compulink.gr (Gabriel Rotskos) wrote: > On 28 Jan 1997 11:18:39 -0700, jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John > Stevens) wrote: > > >The 68008. Which was used in a late model Sinclair computer, the > >color one (can't for the life of me remember whether is was called > >the Rainbow, or some other kitschy "color" name). > > No, the Spectrum (that was the name) used the Z80. The 68008 was used > in the Sinclair QL (for Quantum Leap). > > Gabriel Wasn't Rainbow the name of a machine from DEC? -- Matthew Vaughan matthewv@macconnect.com Classical Music and Macintosh computers? Yeah, you could say I'm in the minority...
From: kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 4 Feb 1997 18:08:45 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5d7tvd$79p@gaea.titan.org> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <omwudYm00iWp07Gm80@andrew.cmu.edu> <kmxnT7i00iWS01Akkk@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 2-Feb-97 Re: Nextstep : Swapspace prob.. by Ken Case@ignem.omnigroup : > Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : >: [...] NEXTSTEP does a good job in most cases with VM, although a few : >: applications (OmniWeb in particular comes to mind) are ill-behaved. : > : > What's ill-behaved about OmniWeb? : Someone else from omnigroup.com asked me this privately, and I'll repeat : what I said to him: Thanks. This is an honest question, by the way. I want to know any ways in which OmniWeb is ill-behaved so that I can do what I can to fix them. : OmniWeb is the only app that will make my machine with 80 MB of RAM : swap. When I leave OmniWeb running for an extended period of time (say : a week or more), OmniWeb consumes what appears to be an unbounded amount : of VM-- I've seen it with a VSIZE of 580 MB before I quit and restarted : the app. The VSIZE output of the "ps" command is (unfortunately) not a very good tool for measuring memory use, because it simply reports how much virtual memory has been allocated--and in OmniWeb's case much of that allocated VM is not actually being used (and thus never consumes real memory or swap space). Why does OmniWeb allocate so much more VM than it uses? I believe the culprit is Foundation's NSMutableData class: it seems to preallocate large chunks of virtual memory for efficiency (which end up never being used). This extra allocated VM is rarely a problem, although it makes that 2GB limit on user address space seem a lot smaller (and, unfortunately, I think I've seen incidents reported which may have been caused by OmniWeb encountering that limit). Hopefully NeXT will improve this behavior of NSMutableData (or at least let us tune it) in future releases of Foundation. (By the way, I've DEFINITELY run into that VM limit with a simple app which puts data into an NSPPL.) : NetSurfer never uses more than 100 MB; neither does any other app that I : run. Maybe you can provide a reasonable explanation for this behavior, Last I checked, there were no other commercial NEXTSTEP applications based on NeXT's Foundation classes. Well, except OmniPDF, of course. Since all OpenStep applications will use Foundation, we'll get a much better measure of how well OmniWeb stacks up quite soon. (And compared to the few OpenStep applications I've seen, such as OpenStep's ProjectBuilder, OmniWeb stacks up reasonably well.) Although presumably OpenStep's Foundation has been much more tuned than 3.3's Foundation was (which gives me hope for free improvement in the OpenStep version of OmniWeb). (Note also that web browsers are somewhat unusual in that they're downloading several new documents--the HTML, and a bunch of inline images--every time you click. Very few other applications have to deal with more than a few documents at a time, automatically "closing" old documents that you haven't touched recently to try to make room for the new documents you're constantly opening.) : but to me it looks like OmniWeb leaks memory. Well, I can't guarantee that OmniWeb leaks no memory, but I sure spent a lot of time trying to make sure that it doesn't. Does it help to lower the timeouts in Cache Preferences? I.e., what happens if you have everything set to time out immediately except for Omni/DocView, and set it to time out after 60 seconds? : PS: However, NeXT's VM implementation should do a better job of handling : OmniWeb's VM requirements-- I'm not blaming OmniWeb in particular, but : the combination of the two.... Hmm, that reminds me of something else: Are you running OPENSTEP or NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch 1, or are you still running 3.2 or vanilla 3.3? 3.2 and the unpatched 3.3 had a bug where the window server would fail to return return memory to the operating system when an application frees a window or image. (And believe me, OmniWeb frees a lot of images: try running it -NXShowAllWindows sometime...). -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 4 Feb 1997 18:10:55 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5d7u3f$79p@gaea.titan.org> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7m8g$ssf@crcnis3.unl.edu> Rex Dieter (rdieter@math.unl.edu) wrote: : There you go. OmniWeb is slow at table rendering. Unfortunately, WAY too : many HTML authors use tables not for true tables, but for layout design. : So... many pages are a little slow in OmniWeb. All true. Just thought I'd mention that I'm working on making OmniWeb's rendering of tables faster... -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 4 Feb 1997 18:37:05 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> Cc: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM In <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> Thomas Funke wrote: > > I'm running the latest (2.5b2) Omniweb on a standard 25MHZ 040 cube. > > Loading a single html-page (~ 50 k ), no pictures, takes about 45 seconds to > load. The page consists of one big table, 6 columns, about 60 rows. > > I don't see any reason, why this takes so long. There is enough memory in the > machine and this page is not really special. Poor programming or a NeXT flaw > ? Netscape can do this page in a second. Netscape can do this in a second on WHAT processor and memory configuration? You're running Netscape on a 25MHz 486? The other problem is that Omniweb seems to actually translate HTML/SGML into RTF.. on a slower system, like a 25 MHz cube, this could probably be a bit slow. Maybe you should try using something a little more modern? :-) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 4 Feb 1997 18:37:22 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5d7vl2$79p@gaea.titan.org> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5d7rq7$drp@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Frank M. Siegert (frank@miranda) wrote: : [...] OW seems to suck large amounts of memory when Thanks, specific usage patterns like this are quite helpful. : - it renders a large table, the more entries the more memory it seems to : need. I'm working on making tables faster, hopefully this will improve their memory footprint as well. (It turns out that Netscape takes some significant shortcuts in their table rendering, which makes their rendering much faster. Unfortunately, it can make some tables which should look great--and do, right now, in OmniWeb--turn out completely mangled in Netscape. On the other hand, since everybody checks their tables in Netscape it would presumably be acceptable for us to mangle our tables in the same way. As long as we don't mangle them in any other ways that they don't...) : - it renders a large image. It's no surprise that large images take a large amount of memory, but perhaps there might be some things we can do (at the cost of additional computational complexity) to improve this in some cases. For example, I believe we currently always render GIF and JPEG images in 24-bit color--which is necessary for 24-bit and (unfortunately) 8-bit color framebuffers, but is not for 16-bit color, 8-bit gray, and certainly not for 2-bit gray. Also, all images are currently rendered with alpha whether they need it or not, which consumes unnecessary memory when images don't actually contain any transparent pixels. Unfortunately, since we render images incrementally as they come across the wire it might be hard to change this without introducing significant rendering delays. However, I haven't done the research on this so maybe there's always a way to detect whether an image contains transparency before the image data arrives. (Hmm...) -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: jaws@bizcharts.com (John Willmore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help: printing FrameMaker 3.0 (blackbox) to LaserJet Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 20:44:33 GMT Organization: BizInt Solutions Message-ID: <5d86eu$cpd@news04.deltanet.com> Hi all, here is a blast-from-the-past question: We're running FrameMaker 3.0 under NS 3.3 on a blackbox. We just put an HP LaserJet 6MP on the network, and are successfully printing to it from most NeXT applications. However, we are having problems when printing from Maker. Everything works properly when printing to the NeXT Printer. Most fonts on a page do not print correctly -- they appear as the printer default font (courier). Some fonts are fine -- anything inside an EPS frame (Diagram, AppSoft Draw), and some apparently random fonts on the page -- print correctly. In the old days, we used to download fonts to the printer before each job. Do we need to do that, or is there a better solution? Does a later version of Maker fix this? We tried Adobe, but they don't know much about the NeXT version. Many thanks in advance, John Willmore BizInt Solutions
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Reorg, Jobs, Kernel fight Date: 3 Feb 1997 20:25:58 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5d5hkm$gd1@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <8D14301.09B800012F.uuout@moondog.com> sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) wrote: > Sweeping Layoffs Expected at Apple > Major reorganization will streamline divisions, > create spot on executive council for Steven Jobs, > sources say. > 02/01/97 > Los Angeles Times > But insiders say Jobs and Hancock have argued bitterly over the > "kernel," the code that will become the core of the operating > system. > But Hancock is conducting a study of Next's kernel, comparing it > with Copland's as well as Sun Microsystems Inc.'s Solaris. She > had promised that a decision on a kernel would be made by the > end of January, but nothing has been announced. I imagine everyone knows it by now, but the kernel decision has been made and announced. This newspaper article is just a bit late on the latest scoop. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:56:36 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Qmxv2Im00iWY4Bhc99@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <omwudYm00iWp07Gm80@andrew.cmu.edu> <kmxnT7i00iWS01Akkk@andrew.cmu.edu> <5d7tvd$79p@gaea.titan.org> In-Reply-To: <5d7tvd$79p@gaea.titan.org> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 4-Feb-97 Re: Nextstep Swapspace prob.. by Ken Case@criamon.omnigro > : Someone else from omnigroup.com asked me this privately, and I'll repeat > : what I said to him: > > Thanks. This is an honest question, by the way. I want to know any > ways in which OmniWeb is ill-behaved so that I can do what I can to > fix them. Okay. >: OmniWeb is the only app that will make my machine with 80 MB of RAM >: swap. When I leave OmniWeb running for an extended period of time (say >: a week or more), OmniWeb consumes what appears to be an unbounded amount >: of VM-- I've seen it with a VSIZE of 580 MB before I quit and restarted >: the app. > > The VSIZE output of the "ps" command is (unfortunately) not a very > good tool for measuring memory use, because it simply reports how much > virtual memory has been allocated--and in OmniWeb's case much of that > allocated VM is not actually being used (and thus never consumes real > memory or swap space). OmniWeb seems to cause a fairly high number of pageout events over time, and allocated but unused pages of VM don't compete for physical pages until they actually get used. Allocated but unused pages also don't occupy space in your swapfiles, and my swapfile definitely continues to grow the longer I leave OmniWeb running. [ ... ] > (Note also that web browsers are somewhat unusual in that they're > downloading several new documents--the HTML, and a bunch of inline > images--every time you click. Very few other applications have to > deal with more than a few documents at a time, automatically "closing" > old documents that you haven't touched recently to try to make room > for the new documents you're constantly opening.) If software was simple to write, how many people would pay the going rate that computer software costs today? > > Does it help to lower the timeouts in Cache Preferences? I.e., what > happens if you have everything set to time out immediately except for > Omni/DocView, and set it to time out after 60 seconds? I don't know. I'll try and see what happens. > Hmm, that reminds me of something else: Are you running OPENSTEP or > NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch 1, or are you still running 3.2 or vanilla 3.3? [ ... ] NEXTSTEP 3.3pl1. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fax software for OPENSTEP? Date: 4 Feb 1997 13:49:42 GMT Organization: "SNET dial access service" Message-ID: <5d7epm$3h0@goofy.snet.net> Trying to find a driver for Zoom modem or package that allows me to send/receive faxes from OPENSTEP. Saw something about NXFax, but am unable to find it. Any suggestions. Thanks Sven
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <970205131747.4178AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <5d8lj0$s4g$1@joe.rice.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:17:47 GMT >From: thad@ion.rice.edu (Thad Harroun)>Subject: Mathematica 3.0 help. >Date: 5 Feb 1997 00:51:44 GMT >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > >Just got Mathematica 3.0: > >One the plus side: >Much faster and more compete than 2.0. I kind of like the symbolic >input/output. "Kind of like" is an understatement. The Front End is completely reworked so that the only remaining reason to use Maple is when the symbolic algebra gets really hairy. In addition, Mathematica 3.0 now has a working Help interface for NeXTSTEP. >One the negative side: >Crashes periodically, don't know why. I've all-ready got a couple of >"please report the following error to support@wolfram" messages. Hmm, it seems a lot better than 2.2 to me. I have seem one error like the one you describe, but can't repeat it. Perhaps your problems are related to what follows? >More importantly, I can't get it to print properly. >1. the word "nextdict" appears in the PostScript output - the NeXT printer >can handle it, the HP printer can't. >2. Occasionally the graphics has a mirror image of itself overlaid on top. >I have no idea why or how. It occurs in both the PostScript file and the >printed output. It really ruins the whole printout, cause I cannot get rid >of it, even if I re-evaluate the notebook, or just save it as PostScript >output. This is almost certainly caused by your not having installed the fonts. You need to do something like: # cd /LocalLibrary/Fonts # ln -s /usr/local/mathematica/SystemFiles/Fonts/NeXT/*.font . This is actually in the installation instructions... The reason I know of the problem is that it wasn't in said instructions for the demo version. What isn't in the instructions, but should be, is that you *can* make Mathematica behave like a regular NeXTSTEP app by doing the following: # ln -s /usr/local/mathematica /LocalApps/Mathematica.app # cd !$ # ln -s Executables/NeXT-Intel/Mathematica . The instruction say that it isn't possible to make Mathematica behave like an app, but that seems to be wrong. >Does anyone else have these problems? I hope someone can help, or at least >commiserate. I have contacted Wolfram suppport, who asked for examples of >the problems, but they've haven't bothered to reply. I have said this before, and will say it again: in my experience, WRI tech support is quite responsive, and have addressed every repeatable bug I have reported. --- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology & Evolution The University of Chicago 1101 E. 57th St. Chicago, IL 60637-1573 USA magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (NeXT Mail, MIME) +1.773.702-1093 phone (lab) +1.773.667-5331 phone (home) +1.773.702-9740 fax
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 4 Feb 97 19:22:57 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF1D3D15-207621@207.147.62.235> References: <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Feb 4, 1997 1:37 PM, John Rudd <mailto:jrudd@cygnus.com> wrote: > Maybe you should try using something a little more modern? :-) I have a 132MHz PowerMac with 40 Megs of Memory and an '040 Turbo cube with 16 Megs of Memory. I love the Mac, but, damn, that Cube is great! I spend most of my time on it. It may not be the fastest machine, but I'm not convinced that it isn't the most "modern" computer I've used. And, let's face it, the coolness factor of the Black hardware far outweighs any speed deficienty it may have. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: thad@ion.rice.edu (Thad Harroun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica 3.0 help. Date: 5 Feb 1997 00:51:44 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <5d8lj0$s4g$1@joe.rice.edu> Just got Mathematica 3.0: One the plus side: Much faster and more compete than 2.0. I kind of like the symbolic input/output. One the negative side: Crashes periodically, don't know why. I've all-ready got a couple of "please report the following error to support@wolfram" messages. More importantly, I can't get it to print properly. 1. the word "nextdict" appears in the PostScript output - the NeXT printer can handle it, the HP printer can't. 2. Occasionally the graphics has a mirror image of itself overlaid on top. I have no idea why or how. It occurs in both the PostScript file and the printed output. It really ruins the whole printout, cause I cannot get rid of it, even if I re-evaluate the notebook, or just save it as PostScript output. Does anyone else have these problems? I hope someone can help, or at least commiserate. I have contacted Wolfram suppport, who asked for examples of the problems, but they've haven't bothered to reply. Thad thad@ion.rice.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: joerd@mail.wsu.edu Subject: pdf format Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Message-ID: <970204161115.198AAFgQ.wayne@pareto> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:11:15 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Organization: Washington State University Does anybody know how I might convert files on my NeXT (.ps, .tex, or .dvi) to Adobe Acrobat format? Thanks, Wayne Joerding Professor of Economics Ofc: 509-335-6468 Washington State University FAX: 509-335-4362 PO Box 644741 http://cbeunix.cbe.wsu.edu/~joerd/ Pullman WA 99164 email: joerd@mail.wsu.edu "Stupidity always has the chance of being a capital offense."
From: "Peter Q. Olsson" <peter.olsson@gi.alaska.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PPP2.2 with Openstep 4.0 on Intel Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 12:55:02 -0900 Organization: Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks Message-ID: <32F7B036.548C@gi.alaska.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all- Thanx for the many VERY helpful responses re: ftp sites. I am having a problem using ppp on a standalone machine. I seem to manage to make a ppp connection ok: Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 260 lo0 137.229.30.26 137.229.30.184 UH 0 0 ppp0 default 137.229.30.26 UG 0 0 ppp0 137.229 137.229.30.103 U 4 1610 en0 kotzebue:23# /usr/etc/ifconfig ppp0 ppp0: flags=51<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING> inet 137.229.30.184 --> 137.229.30.26 netmask ffff0000 But my system does not know how to use this connection, i.e., no network operations (ping,telnet) are possible. This machine has previously been configured to run on a network, though I have made the modifications to /etc/hostconfig recommended in the ppp documentation for a standalone machine. Other suspicious symptoms: on boot-up, the machine takes a long time (essentially times out) on all the network-related items (naming service,etc). It is obviously still looking for a network connection via ethernet card. Also, a similar timeout takes place when running the chat script, i.e. about a 90-120 sec delay before dialing. When connected to the ethernet on bootup, the same machine dials immediately. I am 1) obviously a neophyte in regards to ppp and 2) having some kind of problem outside ppp which is contributing to my woes. It is likely something trivial, but close does not count w/r/t software! Any helpful suggestions? THanx, PQO -- ############################################ # # Dr. Peter Q. Olsson # Geophysical Institute # University of Alaska Fairbanks # Fairbanks, AK 99775 # # voice: (907) 474-6477 # fax: (907) 474 7290 # e-mail: peter.olsson@gi.alaska.edu # #############################################
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Excel files on NeXT Date: 5 Feb 1997 02:20:43 GMT Organization: University of California, San Diego Message-ID: <5d8qpr$fkp@news1.ucsd.edu> Can someone tell me what the best spreadsheet program for reading Excel data files on NeXT computers (turbo) is? I know of Questar (Xanthus), and Mesa, but have not tried the latter yet. I am receiving a lot of Excel files (some as HQX packages from a Mac user) and badly need to be able to work with them. Thanks very much for any information and advice. -- H. Craig passim@helium.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Help, I need some :) Message-ID: <E53K0p.yn@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <855009608.6063@dejanews.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:07:37 GMT In article <855009608.6063@dejanews.com> billw@xpense.com writes: > Hello all... > > here is the deal: > > I have a copy of 3.1 on CD. > I have a NeXT Station with 3.3 on the drive. > It is only a 100mb drive. > I just bought a 575mb drive. > > here are my questions: > > is there anyway to get the 3.3 from my existing drive to the new 545mb > one? is there anyone who would offer to load 3.3 onto the drive for me? > anyone in the seattle area who has a 3.3 cd rom i can borrow? > But that's SOOO easy! Power down and attach the drive (correct SCSI-Id assumed). Power up and the drive is recognized. After the prompt NEXTSTEP will format and partition the drive. Then you log in as 'root' and fire up BuildDisk.app... What follows is some minor admin job in /etc/fstab. And of course, the whole process is clearly described both in the online sysadmin manual and the man-pages. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: seward@netcom.ca (John Savard) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 02:15:02 GMT Organization: Netcom Canada Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5dbf2q$n6o@tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <32f0b06b.22787016@news.compulink.gr> <matthewv-0402970119210001@accs-as32-dp08.snfc.grid.net> matthewv@macconnect.com (Matthew Vaughan) wrote: >In article <32f0b06b.22787016@news.compulink.gr>, grotskos@compulink.gr >(Gabriel Rotskos) wrote: >> On 28 Jan 1997 11:18:39 -0700, jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John >> Stevens) wrote: >> >> >The 68008. Which was used in a late model Sinclair computer, the >> >color one (can't for the life of me remember whether is was called >> >the Rainbow, or some other kitschy "color" name). >> >> No, the Spectrum (that was the name) used the Z80. The 68008 was used >> in the Sinclair QL (for Quantum Leap). >> >> Gabriel >Wasn't Rainbow the name of a machine from DEC? Yes. The Sinclair Spectrum was a small machine, a color version of their famous really cheap computer. The Sinclair QL, based on an 8-bit bus version of the 68000, the 68008, was more like an ordinary home computer, but it used tape cartridges based on a proprietary videotape-like technology rather than floppy disks. The DEC Rainbow belonged to a series of computers they made. There was a terminal, a word processor, and a proprietary computer with a very weird dual disk drive (it had bilateral symmetry...you put the disk in one way in one half of it, and the other way in the other drive). When it first came out, there was no format program...you had to buy preformatted disks from DEC only, but they woke up and corrected that. (One of the early Compucolor computers was like that too!) The terminal from that family starred in the movie "Electric Dreams", although either the Mac or the Amiga probably inspired the movie. John Savard
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 6 Feb 1997 04:43:58 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-b-40.usc.edu Message-ID: <5dbnie$i1a@usc.edu> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7m8g$ssf@crcnis3.unl.edu> Cc: rdieter@math.unl.edu In <5d7m8g$ssf@crcnis3.unl.edu> Rex Dieter wrote: > There you go. OmniWeb is slow at table rendering. Unfortunately, WAY too > many HTML authors use tables not for true tables, but for layout design. > So... many pages are a little slow in OmniWeb. Is there something wrong with that? 9-) -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
From: thad@ion.rice.edu (Thad Harroun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Date: 6 Feb 1997 04:38:38 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <5dbn8e$mj5$1@joe.rice.edu> References: <970205131747.4178AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Magnus Nordborg writes [...] > In addition, Mathematica 3.0 now has a working Help > interface for NeXTSTEP. This is really nice, the entire (so far as I can tell) third edition book online with easy to use links from a master index. [printing problems described...] > This is almost certainly caused by your not having installed the fonts. We've all ready returned and re-installed the fonts which cleared up many problems. Our main concern now is how graphics are printed. Occasionally, there is a strange doubled-reversed effect. It's hard to describe...if you look at the postscript or printed output, the correct graphic is displayed, then the same graphic is reversed and put right on top. We have seen it occur on many different types of graphics, but cannot pin it down as to what else may be happening to cause it. We can't force it to happen, but it has happened to every one in our group now, some several times. It is very frustrating because it has happened in a couple of reports I was writing. Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.net> has been helpful in writing a PS patch that manually turns off any DPS and bitmap raster commands that are in the print output PS. He noticed that it seems as if DPS commands and bitmaps for screen drawing are somehow getting into the print output, which causes a big mess. It works very well. > I have said this before, and will say it again: in my experience, WRI > tech support is quite responsive, and have addressed every repeatable > bug I have reported. I felt the same, and have been happy to supply them with several examples of the problem. That, however, has been three weeks ago. Regards, Thad thad@rice.edu
From: gbh@erols.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD writing software Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 20:22:19 -0500 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <32F7E0CB.50AD@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What software is available for writing to recordable CDs? --gh
From: "Andrew Kim" <akim@pop.cogsoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PPP Help!!! Anyone? Date: 4 Feb 97 21:52:05 -0800 Organization: Cogent Software Message-ID: <AF1D600C-2BE8A@207.13.170.22> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.programmer, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.sysadmin --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there any one can tell me how to set up PPP for OpenStep 4.0 (040 Black) by step by step instruction? Online help does not gives me a bit helpful. I have Supra Sonic and NeXTstation Color. I am very confused and I have a no idea what to do. Thank you for any suggestion. PS. I tried Gatekeeper, & Kermit. but never worked. What did I do wrong??? --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-0002BCFC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-0002BCFC Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <X-FONTSIZE><PARAM>12</PARAM><FONTFAMILY><PARAM>Palatino</PARAM>Is there any one can tell me how to set up PPP for OpenStep 4.0 (040 Black) by step by step instruction? Online help does not gives me a bit helpful. I have Supra Sonic and NeXTstation Color. I am very confused and I have a no idea what to do. Thank you for any suggestion. PS. I tried Gatekeeper, & Kermit. but never worked. What did I do wrong???</FONTFAMILY></X-FONTSIZE> --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-0002BCFC-- --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC--
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan28094520@slave.one.net> Date: 28 Jan 97 08:45:20 GMT References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> Organization: Is a sign of weakness In-reply-to: Charles Wiles's message of 27 Jan 1997 16:45:19 GMT In article <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk>, Charles Wiles <charles@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> writes: My reason for cross-posting to the Linux development group [apologies to Linux people for dropping such a long posting on you out of the blue], is that it might be beneficial for Avie et al to discuss swapping strategies with some of the Linux kernel experts, who are more likely than most to have worked out a novel, highly efficient solution to this problem. Unfortunately, as alluded to in the posted article, the problem isn't so much knowing what they want to do as being willing to disrupt things to get it done. Linux has a novel approach to this - make the change in an already potentially unstable release, and let lots of people test it. NeXT doesn't have quite as much latitude, here, as they won't be able to use as many testers, and can't afford to release an imperfect version. [Hey, don't gripe at me, I _agree_ that free software makes things easier.] > \begin{repost from comp.sys.next.misc, Jun 1994} > > From: avie@next.com (Avadis Tevanian) > Subject: Re: Why does NS require so much Memory? <...> > So why don't we compact the swapfile to handle these pages that > get allocated at high page numbers? Good question. We've > considered doing it many times. However, it has always been > considered a quite risky change (how many of YOU have debugged a > virtual memory system before) and would need to be done very > carefully to ensure correctness and adequate performance. As an > example, it would not be acceptable to just start a compaction > and cause the system to lock up as the kernel does several > megabytes of I/O for the compaction. On The One Hand: A decent enough means of handling this would be to force high-numbered pages back into memory (at worst, by referencing them), mark them dirty, and then clear the indicator of where that page belongs in the swapfile. Then when memory is needed, it can push the page out to a low-numbered area. I'm not saying this is easy, but it shouldn't be hard (even in kernel mode). It's not a very good solution, though, as it results in swapfile fragmentation. On The Other Hand: If your processes are using a lot of memory, there's no room to be paging in pages which you don't need just to compact the swapfile. _But_, if your options are "Crash the system and wait a minute or two for a reboot" or "lock the system up for a minute or two while it does the compaction", well, which would you rather have? [Hint: compaction would let you keep running your currect programs, rebooting would potentially lose some work.] The Real Problem: is that, as Avie explained, if there is free space in the swapfile, it will be used. In theory, your system should just continue operating at a reduced capacity (due to seeking all over heck to access pieces of the swapfile). In other words, there must be something else going on that's locking those pages so that they can't be re-used. Running an extremely VM-intensive process and then not getting your disk space back is one thing. Progressively losing disk space to the swapfile over the course of days is an entirely different problem. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Excel files on NeXT Message-ID: <E55Fz7.179@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5d8qpr$fkp@news1.ucsd.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:35:31 GMT In article <5d8qpr$fkp@news1.ucsd.edu> passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig) writes: > Can someone tell me what the best spreadsheet program for reading > Excel data files on NeXT computers (turbo) is? I know of Questar > (Xanthus), and Mesa, but have not tried the latter yet. I am > receiving a lot of Excel files (some as HQX packages from a Mac > user) and badly need to be able to work with them. I've checked both and both work to some degree. You get trouble with mutiple sheets in one file (ie. Excel 6 or 7) and especially with references between sheets. My choice would be Questor (but I haven't seen the new Mesa 2.0 yet) but that's more a feeling than a fact based position. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: HDD > 1Gb Message-ID: <E55G4D.17x@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5d78sn$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:38:37 GMT In article <5d78sn$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> gslater@popa.melbpc.org.au (Gordon Slater) writes: > I've gone out and blown my budget on a new 2Gb EIDE drive but can't > install NS 3.3 on it. The installation goes OK right up until the > drive is about to be formatted, then the whole install dies with a WS > something-or-other error. > > I've managed to install NS on an old 540Mb drive but I'd rather use > the larger hard disk. Any ideas? > Get your BIOS translation fixed. This is an EIDE problem of bad ol'e BIOS, nothing else. IMHO, EIDE is no technology fit for multitasking OSes... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How to compress files as *.exe Message-ID: <E55G89.18L@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <01bc1232$b3a2ffc0$63e5e6cf@sam> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:40:57 GMT In article <01bc1232$b3a2ffc0$63e5e6cf@sam> "Sam Chung" <sam@in2nett.com> writes: > I have a typing software and I want to compress all the file as > *.exe. Just like what we download from the net and we just need > to type the file name and it will extract by itself without using > pkzip or ARJ. Are you sure you're on the right news group? Looks like a misposting to me :-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702052037.PAA05956@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 97 15:37:38 -0500 Subject: Re: PPP Help!!! Anyone? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: "Andrew Kim" <akim@pop.cogsoft.com> Original Date: 4 Feb 97 21:52:05 -0800 > What did I do wrong??? #1 -- you posted in HTML ... you might want to turn that off. #2 Crossposting to all the NeXT groups was the 2nd thing you did wrong. If you haven't read the charter for the NeXT newsgroups, you should. If you have read it, you should know why crossposting is wrong. To the specifics of the questions you asked: Have you tried going to the NeXTPPP web page and seeing if there is anything there that will help you? Have you set up a /etc/ppp/options file based on 'man pppd'? If you setup kermit and enter 'connect' and then send some 'AT' commands to the modem, does it respond? Where'd you get your modem cable? The possibilities for the origin are endless, so without some more information, it is rather difficult to help TjL
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:42:48 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5dbjvo$1dvp@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5d8lj0$s4g$1@joe.rice.edu> Cc: thad@ion.rice.edu In <5d8lj0$s4g$1@joe.rice.edu> Thad Harroun wrote: > Just got Mathematica 3.0: > > One the plus side: > Much faster and more compete than 2.0. I kind of like the symbolic > input/output. > > One the negative side: > Crashes periodically, don't know why. I've all-ready got a couple of > "please report the following error to support@wolfram" messages. What platform are you running it? I use Black Hardware with no problem. > More importantly, I can't get it to print properly. > 1. the word "nextdict" appears in the PostScript output - the NeXT printer > can handle it, the HP printer can't. Do you send the printout to the printer with the fonts included? Other than that I never had problem printing. > 2. Occasionally the graphics has a mirror image of itself overlaid on top. > I have no idea why or how. It occurs in both the PostScript file and the > printed output. It really ruins the whole printout, cause I cannot get rid > of it, even if I re-evaluate the notebook, or just save it as PostScript > output. > > Does anyone else have these problems? I hope someone can help, or at least > commiserate. I have contacted Wolfram suppport, who asked for examples of > the problems, but they've haven't bothered to reply. > I havent encountered any of the problems you described. But again, this was black HW. Good luck, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: Timothy B. Stiles <tbstiles@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Windows 95 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 05:39:44 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5dbqg3$hr1@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> Can someone please answer this question? If I have a program written for Windows 95 that won't allow you to do anything to the window except "restore" or "close" where can I change those properties? IS it in the registry? I'd like to re-enable minimize, maximize, and size functionality. Please respond ASAP and cc: to tstiles@ptp.hp.com. Your help with this is very appreciated! : ) Tim Stiles
From: Sven Droll Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: fortran compiler? Date: 5 Feb 1997 10:24:23 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5d9n4n$rfg@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <5d5um2$cl3@elaine6.Stanford.EDU> gcc2.7.2.1 with g77 are on peanuts under /developer/languages/c/... g77 is F77 only. Tschuess -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail, MIME-mail welcome ;-))
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@NO.SPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: latex for OS 4.1? Date: 5 Feb 1997 11:06:19 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5d9pjb$oek@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131090257.22385A-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> <5ct3lk$lh5@crcnis3.unl.edu> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: > In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131090257.22385A-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> > "Jonathan B. Leffert" <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> writes: > > I got the latex2e base and packages package from ftp.next.peak.org and > > installed them. there was not tex or latex binary so nothing would work. > > where can i get a distribution that works? > I believe the latex2e package you refer to is the one I built as an > add-on to NeXTTex.pkg, which WAS inlcuded in NS 3.3, but not in > subsequent releases. Yip. You can use it if you have the NeXTTeX package from a 3.3 CD. It works for the English language, but.. > I'd recommend you pick up teTeX. I have to second that. I've been fighting all day yesterday trying to get LaTeX2e to run with german hyphenation added. While the LaTeX2e package works, it does not seem to be complete, at least it seems that you no longer have the necessary files to run initex und dump with a different hyphenation pattern. It seems that I have to bite the bullet and install teTeX. Unfortunaltely, there isn't a .pkg file around (somebody pu-leeze build one!), so you have to install it manually. There also seems to be some incompatibility with TeXView.app. Maybe somebody with teTeX experience can advise? All the best, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Date: 6 Feb 1997 16:06:30 GMT Organization: Ames Laboratory Message-ID: <5dcvi6$i5b@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <5d8lj0$s4g$1@joe.rice.edu> <970205131747.4178AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Cc: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu Magnus Nordborg wrote: > >From: thad@ion.rice.edu (Thad Harroun) > >Subject: Mathematica 3.0 help. > >Date: 5 Feb 1997 00:51:44 GMT > >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > > > >Just got Mathematica 3.0: > > What isn't in the instructions, but should be, is that you *can* make > Mathematica behave like a regular NeXTSTEP app by doing the following: > > # ln -s /usr/local/mathematica /LocalApps/Mathematica.app > # cd !$ > # ln -s Executables/NeXT-Intel/Mathematica . > > The instruction say that it isn't possible to make Mathematica behave like > an app, but that seems to be wrong. Wow!! For perhaps the first time since the Apple/NeXT announcement someone has posted something useful to these newsgroups ;) Thanks much for this! Made life much easier for me (after a little adjustment due to the fact I'm using good old black hardware). Tom -- ********** NOTICE CHANGE OF ADDRESS *************** _________________________________________________________________ Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Depts. of Chemistry and Physics 206-721-0754 (home/FAX) University of Washington 206-713-0326 (Work) Seattle, WA 98195 tlm@u.washington.edu Project Coordinator: Undergraduate Computational Engineering and Sciences http://uces.ameslab.gov/ _________________________________________________________________
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: latex for OS 4.1? Date: 6 Feb 1997 16:19:53 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5dd0b9$4fj@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5d9pjb$oek@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> In article <5d9pjb$oek@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss <neuss@NO.SPAM> writes: > It seems that I have > to bite the bullet and install teTeX. Unfortunaltely, there isn't > a .pkg file around (somebody pu-leeze build one!), so you have to > install it manually. There also seems to be some incompatibility > with TeXView.app. Maybe somebody with teTeX experience can advise? I think teTeX IS a package. If not, it IS a simple tar.gz file, that you unpack into (I think) /usr/local/tetex, or something like that. Not rocket science. And, yes, there is an incompatibility with TeXview.app. Whereever you can find TeTex, you can also find the updated TeXview you'll need (there's also a version called HyperTeXview too that'll work). -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <970206111016.4961AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <970205131747.4178AAFcF.magnus@darwin> <5dbn8e$mj5$1@joe.rice.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:10:16 GMT >From: thad@ion.rice.edu (Thad Harroun)>Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. >Date: 6 Feb 1997 04:38:38 GMT >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > >This is really nice, the entire (so far as I can tell) third edition book >online with easy to use links from a master index. Yes, I installed all the documentation on my laptop, and it sure beats dragging the Mathematica book around (it weighs more than the laptop). >Our main concern now is how graphics are printed. Occasionally, there is a >strange doubled-reversed effect. It's hard to describe...if you look at >the postscript or printed output, the correct graphic is displayed, then >the same graphic is reversed and put right on top. We have seen it occur >on many different types of graphics, but cannot pin it down as to what >else may be happening to cause it. We can't force it to happen, but it has >happened to every one in our group now, some several times. It is very >frustrating because it has happened in a couple of reports I was writing. >Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.net> has been helpful in writing a PS patch >that manually turns off any DPS and bitmap raster commands that are in the >print output PS. He noticed that it seems as if DPS commands and bitmaps >for screen drawing are somehow getting into the print output, which causes >a big mess. It works very well. I haven't seen this, but that is not to say it doesn't happen. While on the topic of bugs, there *is* a repeatable bug (which I have reported) in how the Front End line-wrapping interacts with the cursor. Type in a long expression, like f[x_]:=Module[{x},x=Table[Random[Integer,{1,1000}],{i,0,1000}];ListPlot[x]] without entering any line breaks. The Front End wraps the expression automatically. Now place the cursor on any line but the first, and hit Ctrl-a to move to the beginning of that line. Next hit Ctrl-f to move forward one character. This works. Next hit Ctrl-b to move backward one character. This doesn't work: instead of moving to the beginning of the line, the cursor moves to the end of the previous line. The Front End "misses" the first character on the line. There seems to be other problems with this, and it causes warning messages with prompt to email Technical Support. Seems like a beta test would have been in order. Sincerely, -Magnus --- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology & Evolution The University of Chicago 1101 E. 57th St. Chicago, IL 60637-1573 USA magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (NeXT Mail, MIME) +1.773.702-1093 phone (lab) +1.773.667-5331 phone (home) +1.773.702-9740 fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <970206111211.4961AAFcG.magnus@darwin> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <5d8lj0$s4g$1@joe.rice.edu> <970205131747.4178AAFcF.magnus@darwin> <5dcvi6$i5b@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:12:11 GMT From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) >Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. >Date: 6 Feb 1997 16:06:30 GMT >Reply-To: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > >Wow!! For perhaps the first time since the Apple/NeXT announcement >someone has posted something useful to these newsgroups ;) Thanks much >for this! Made life much easier for me (after a little adjustment due to >the fact I'm using good old black hardware). Thanks! I have encouraged WRI to put this information on their web FAQ. Sincerely, -Magnus --- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology & Evolution The University of Chicago 1101 E. 57th St. Chicago, IL 60637-1573 USA magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (NeXT Mail, MIME) +1.773.702-1093 phone (lab) +1.773.667-5331 phone (home) +1.773.702-9740 fax
From: marcel@sysyem.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pdf format Date: 6 Feb 1997 17:21:52 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dd3vg$quj$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <5dadd7$itl@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> A me too post: A beta of my PDF distiller has been in circulation since the fall of 1995. Due to problems with the company distributing it, no new versions were released (and I had to refocus on other work). The technology is being continuously improved and I will also be releasing something Real Soon Now (maybe another beta?). Marcel
From: h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (Guenther Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WetPaint question Date: 6 Feb 1997 20:04:14 GMT Organization: University of Economics and Business Administration, Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> Hi, who is able to solve the following dilemma: How is it possible to change one color of a picture (e.g. white) into total transparency (100%) in a conveniant way with WetPaint? Of course someone could delete single pixels or use the rubber tool, but is there a way similar to the 'Transpose Filter', to just select the source color and the destination color (in this case 100% transparency) and click on 'Apply' and that's it? The 'Transpose Filter' didn't work for this purpose, it can exchange colors but unfortunately not transparencies (at least I haven't found a way to do so). Maybe someone can help me Guenther
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: Help: How to display an image using NXImage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <E54yqB.BJD@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: boudra@cimac-res.univ-lyon1.fr Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:22:59 GMT References: <5da5eg$47g@tempo.univ-lyon1.fr> In comp.sys.next.software Abdel BOUDRAA wrote: > I am a new user of NeXT system. Could you mind tell me where I can > find a sample code to display an image (8Bits, 256Colors, NxN)using > the famous NXImage class. (my image is not a tiff, eps or ps image). You need to define a custom image representation class which knows how to read your proprietary image file. It not difficult, just read the NXBitmapImageRep class documentation and create a subclass which overrides the appropriate methods. Once you do this, the NXImage class will use your special image representation class whenever it needs to load a file with the special extension you have assigned to your file format. You might want to use something less generic than ".dat", though. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "I have never seen anything fill up a vacuum so fast and still suck." -- Rob Pike, commenting on The X Window System
From: mbritte@inconnect.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: My Experience with a HTML EDITOR Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:31:05 GMT Organization: inconnect Message-ID: <mbritte.61.32FA4D99@inconnect.com> Hello everyone, I am a "really" ignorant person when it comes to home page and HTML editing... I managed to build some homepage by looking around and learning from other people...but it was never terrific. I finally decided to look at some of those HTML Editor and I must admit that I found THE BEST HTML EDITOR, it is soo easy to use and understand...I now don't have to think too much about using Tables, background and other complicated HTML text...in my homepage... Here is the URL if you are interested: http://www.inconnect.com/~mbritte/nachos/index.html Use it and you will realize that i am not lying... Michel
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple Shareholder Meeting Message-ID: <8D18282.09B8000150.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 10:42:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple Chief Executive Seeks More Time to Aid Company 02/06/97 The New York Times CUPERTINO, Calif., Feb. 5 -- Gilbert F. Amelio gave the best speech of his one-year tenure as chief executive of Apple Computer Inc. today, persuading frustrated shareholders to give him more time to turn around the troubled computer company. Mr. Amelio's speech, before an audience of about 500 shareholders, employees and journalists, was given on his first anniversary of joining Apple, which has seen its stock price plummet and which had a huge $867 million loss in 1996. "Let me confess that I have never felt comfortable meeting with stockholders at a time when the stock is declining," he said. "And you have my word, for both institutional and personal reasons, that I am highly motivated to take all necessary corrective steps to reverse our downward plunge." Previously, Mr. Amelio has made lackluster and muddled presentations at the company's World Wide Developers Conference last May and at a recent computer exhibition in San Francisco. However, company executives said that the Apple chairman had painstakingly prepared for today's presentation. But while the presentation was good, there were no new initiatives and instead Mr. Amelio criticized Apple's corporate culture, drawing big applause when he said that in the past Apple's marketing efforts have been too soft and that in the future the company would 'attack" the competition. The company's shareholder meeting came just one day after Mr. Amelio instituted a wide corporate reorganization in which he moved aside Ellen Hancock, the company's chief technology officer, and elevated Guerrino De Luca, previously head of Apple's Claris unit, to lead the company's global marketing group. The shareholder meeting, which lasted an hour longer than scheduled, was punctuated with angry questions from shareholders about the company's stock plans for top executives. "He has presented this compensation package for a more than $800 million loss and I hope Apple shareholders take that into account," said one shareholder in a statement from the floor. But Mr. Amelio said that while Apple did not plan to end its stock option plans for executives, all cash and stock bonuses would be suspended until Apple was able to return to sustained profitability. He insisted that while Apple has been written off by many in the computer industry the company still had enough vitality to make a comeback. "I want to re-create an Apple that can once again turn this industry on its head," he said. "We will not be denied by the slings and arrows of a few rough quarters." Those words seemed to cheer some shareholders who left the meeting saying they were willing to wait and give the former semiconductor industry executive more time for what he said last year would be a three-year effort to resuscitate the ailing company, which as recently as 1995 was the nation's largest personal computer maker. "I dumped most of my shares at $45 last year, but now I think I will begin to buy again," said Timothy May, a small Apple shareholder. Mr. May said he thought that Apple's strategy for developing a new operating system based on technology acquired in a recent merger with Steven Jobs's Next Software Inc., was a sound one. Mr. Amelio said he had made real progress in addressing what he described as the company's five crises: lack of cash; declining quality; a failed operating system development project; Apple's chaotic culture, and a fragmented strategy. "Apple acted less like a coherent organization than a loose coalition of projects," he said. "A collection of tribes instead of a modern industrial enterprise." While he refused to specify the number of jobs that would be cut as a result of the latest reorganization, he said the company would act courageously and back away from entire businesses rather than cutting an across-the-board percentage. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple: Focus on Research Message-ID: <8D18282.09B800014F.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 10:42:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 APPLE'S PLAN INCLUDES FOCUS ON RESEARCH NO DETAILS ON LAYOFFS OR CUTBACKS 02/05/97 The Sacramento Bee Apple Computer Inc. on Tuesday outlined a corporate reshuffling plan that it hopes will reverse the computer maker's sagging fortunes, but offered no details of layoffs or other cutbacks that are expected in the months ahead. In a news release, the company said it will streamline operations and focus its research and development efforts in areas that it considers central to its success. Apple did not elaborate, but insiders have said the company will likely concentrate on the education, publishing, Internet and consumer markets. In its only reference to layoffs, Apple said an ongoing restructuring will "include the elimination of programs and positions. The implementation of the restructuring will begin in early March." Apple Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Gil Amelio has previously said the company needs to trim operating expenses by 20 percent, and analysts estimate as many as 3,000 of the company's 13,000 workers could lose their jobs. But there was no hint of how the revamping might effect specific operations, including Apple's assembly and distribution operations in the Laguna West section of Elk Grove, which employs 750 people. Several local workers, who asked not to be identified, said they had not been told of any forthcoming changes. "We learn what we know from the newspaper," said one employee, who added that uncertainty is nothing new at the facility. "They're always doing some sort of reorganization. We're used to it." Apple also said the company's co-founder, Steve Wozniak, will join Steve Jobs as an adviser to Amelio. Wozniak and Jobs founded Apple in the late 1970s. Both left the company in the mid-1980s. One of the biggest changes appears to be that the company is consolidating its product development, sales and marketing operations. Previously Apple ran its many business units almost autonomously, each with its own sales, R&D and marketing arms. Apple also said its research and development departments would be headed by outsiders. System software engineering will be run by Avie Tevanian of NeXT Software, which Apple purchased in December to help it develop a new computer operating system. Apple's hardware engineering unit will be led by Jon Rubinstein, previously chief operating officer of FirePower Systems, a company that develops computer systems based on the Apple/Motorola Power PC microprocessor. Industry observers were pleased by the outline, but wanted more details. "It's a good start. . . . It sounds like a more streamlined organization, which is important in cutting Apple's costs," said Eric Lewis, an analyst with International Data Corp. in Mountain View. "But they need to flesh out the rest of the details very quickly." Bill Davies, president of MaxNexus, the Sacramento area's Macintosh user's group, said he was pleased by the changes he saw. "I looked at their new organizational chart and it looks like a good lineup," Davies said. "I think they need to act forcefully and quickly. The more radical they get, the better." He also applauded the return of Wozniak to join Jobs on Apple's inner council, saying the pair might help bring some of their visionary fire back to Apple. "There's a lot of people who buy into this whole Steve and Steve mentality and its important to have people in there who have some credibility, " he said. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple Plans Ad War Message-ID: <8D18282.09B800014E.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 10:42:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple Computer Prepares To Roll Out Combative New Ads 02/05/97 Wall Street Journal CUPERTINO, Calif. -- Apple Computer Inc. is suspending bonuses for its top executives and will be unveiling a series of combative new ads, the chairman of the beleaguered personal-computer maker told shareholders at the annual meeting. Gibert F. Amelio, who is also chief executive officer, said all merit-based bonuses and stock grants for top Apple executives are being halted until the company returns to "sustained profitability." Apple recently said it doesn't expect to be profitable until the fiscal fourth quarter quarter that ends in September. The size of executive bonuses at Apple has been criticized in the past and was attacked again yesterday by shareholders upset at Apple's stock price, which has been hovering near a 10-year low. Apple closed yesterday in Nasdaq trading at $15.25, down 12.5 cents, a less-steep drop than many technology stocks posted. In December, Apple disclosed that its board had voted to give Mr. Amelio bonuses totaling $2.3 million for the work he did between February, when he took Apple's top job, and Sept. 27, the close of Apple's fiscal year. His salary at the time was $655,000. Many analysts said they thought that Mr. Amelio may have had little choice in canceling this year's bonuses considering that Apple will soon be embarking on another major round of previously disclosed layoffs. He didn't provide any details about the size of those layoffs at yesterday's meeting. He did say that Apple would be cutting costs by shedding some of its business units, as previously reported. "I have a hot list and a hit list" of Apple projects, Mr. Amelio said, adding that decisions about which parts of Apple will be pared will be made in coming weeks. In his speech, Mr. Amelio criticized recent Apple advertising, saying much of it has been "fluff, soft and not very visible." He showed shareholders new print ads that directly compare Macintosh computers with rival Windows-based machines. Said a headline on one ad touting multimedia abilities of a Mcintosh: "Warning. Don't try any of these things on a Windows PC." -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What comes on the developer cd & other developer questions Date: 6 Feb 1997 12:51:03 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5ddg7n$dga@slip.net> Hi, I've run across a good deal on a cube having NS 3.3 installed. However, the developer package is not installed, no one is selling 3.3 developer on c.s.n.m and NeXT wants 1200$ for 3.3 developer. I already have a Cube running 2.0 which has interface builder. It would help me decide if I knew just what comes on 3.3 developer. So ... What kits, programming packages, or programs come with NS 3.3 developer ? Does NS 3.3 user come with some NS basic tools such as interfacebuilder ? Can one use 3.1 developer with 3.3 user? Thanks, Emmett
From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pdf format Date: 5 Feb 1997 14:42:07 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <5da67v$m8h@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <970204161115.198AAFgQ.wayne@pareto> Cc: joerd@mail.wsu.edu,dialog@onevision.de In <970204161115.198AAFgQ.wayne@pareto> joerd@mail.wsu.edu wrote: > Does anybody know how I might convert files on my NeXT (.ps, .tex, or .dvi) > to Adobe Acrobat format? > > Thanks, > > Wayne Joerding I have looked all over for such software in December, and came up empty. OneVision (http://www.onevision.de) has some forthcoming products (Digiscrpt and WebScript) for editing PostScript and PDF that will be able to convert PostScript to PDF. However, from their web page I gather that these part of packages for publishing houses. They might end up being expensive, when one just wants a simple command-line ps2pdf filter. It would be nice if they would comment to this group about their plans. Interestingly, Adobe (http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat) has not put out a version of Acrobat for the first (and one of the few) operating systems to use DisplayPostScript. The OmniGroup (http://www.omnigroup.com) has a ps2pdf program called OmniStill, but for some licensing reason they can only distribute to users of some other expensive package sold by Lighthouse. (enterprise something-or-another). Incidentally, Gunther Furthaller, who has some association with OneVision, makes an excellent pdf viewer, PDFView (http://www.BITart.com/PDFView). I find it (v1.6) faster than OmniGroup's OmniPDF (v2.0). Some files that went through tex->dvi->ps->pdf, where dvi->ps was with Rokicki's dvips and ps->pdf was with Acrobat Distiller on a Macintosh, viewed and printed fine with PDFView but were munged by OmniPDF (no offense to OmniGroup, who makes such great software, most of which is free!). Tim -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:14:39 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970204031036.19194A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Thomas Funke wrote: > I don't see any reason, why this takes so long. There is enough memory in the > machine and this page is not really special. Poor programming or a NeXT flaw > ? Netscape can do this page in a second. You answered your own question: > I'm running the latest (2.5b2) Omniweb on a standard 25MHZ 040 cube. Try running Netscape on a 25 or 33 Mhz 486 some time. Omniweb isn't terribly fast on black hardware (Netsurfer is considerably faster, in my experience), but it works well enough for me on those rare occasions when I need Netscape-ish frames, tables, and/or graphics that can't be handled in lynx. Lynx is 100x faster than any graphical browser on any platform, in my experience. -Isaac
From: gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: fortran compiler? Date: 6 Feb 1997 21:25:44 GMT Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands Message-ID: <5ddi8o$phc@highway.leidenuniv.nl> References: <5d5um2$cl3@elaine6.Stanford.EDU> <5d9n4n$rfg@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Sven Droll wrote: >gcc2.7.2.1 with g77 are on peanuts under /developer/languages/c/... As far as I am aware you also need to get the latest gcc for this. I use f2c, which works with the standard NeXT cc, so it is a bit more modest in disk space. It is spartan but it works; I had to add a few semi-standard subroutines to the libs. -- Geert Jan van Oldenborgh work: oldenbor@knmi.nl private: gj@rulil0.LeidenUniv.nl (for the time being) web: http://rulgm4.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html (-""-)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint question Date: 6 Feb 1997 22:30:03 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5ddm1b$so3@news.digifix.com> References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> In-Reply-To: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> On 02/06/97, Guenther Bauer wrote: >Hi, > >who is able to solve the following dilemma: > >How is it possible to change one color of a picture (e.g. white) into >total transparency (100%) in a conveniant way with WetPaint? Of course >someone could delete single pixels or use the rubber tool, but is there a >way similar to the 'Transpose Filter', to just select the source color >and the destination color (in this case 100% transparency) and click on >'Apply' and that's it? The 'Transpose Filter' didn't work for this >purpose, it can exchange colors but unfortunately not transparencies (at >least I haven't found a way to do so). > Sounds like someone is trying to take a thing on a solid background and use it on a web page or in Workspace with transparency in place of the color right? I doubt you can get an easy solve for this, especially in WetPaint. Maybe TiffanyII. There was a half page article in the current MacWorld on an obscure way to do this using Photoshop layers and masks. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] Why is loginwindow still running? Date: 6 Feb 1997 22:22:48 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <5ddljo$99@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I'm confused. Looking at the output of top and "ps -avx", I see loginwindow listed, with a significant amount of time. Is this normal? I also so OmniImage listed, even when it's not listed under the Processes panel, and I'm sure I quit it. I'm running NS 3.2 on a TurboColor. Can anyone clear up these mysteries? Thanks in advance! I'll append my output from ps below. David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu PID TT STAT TIME SL RE PAGEIN VSIZE RSIZE LIM TSIZ TRS %CPU %MEM COMMAND 189 ? S 40hr 0 0 0 31.8M 13.3M 0 0K 0 4.5 10.4 WindowSe 0 ? R N 141hr 0 0 0 18.3M 4.09M 0 0K 0 0.0 3.2 kernel i 3588 ? S 15:58 0 0 0 8.58M 4.08M 0 0K 0 0.0 3.2 TimeFlie 3589 co S 6:09 0 0 0 6.09M 3.40M 0 0K 0 3.7 2.7 Stuart 3586 ? S 1:04 0 0 0 5.98M 3.20M 0 0K 0 0.0 2.5 WM 3868 ? S 0:02 0 0 0 25.4M 2.45M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.9 Webster 3587 ? S 0:13 0 0 0 5.55M 2.42M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.9 Preferen 3983 ? S 0:08 0 0 0 5.14M 2.34M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.8 Edit 3590 ? S N 20hr 0 0 0 5.03M 2.20M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.7 BackSpac 190 ? S 11:19 0 0 0 4.02M 1.79M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.4 loginwin 3591 ? S 0:01 0 0 0 4.70M 1.78M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.4 LaunchBa 3585 ? S N 0:17 0 0 0 5.91M 1.70M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.3 Workspac 3904 ? S 0:08 0 0 0 4.95M 1.58M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.2 WideScre 3592 ? R N 6:46 0 0 0 4.13M 1.51M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.2 KPerfMon 4058 ? S 0:20 0 0 0 5.45M 1.30M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.0 OmniImag 173 ? R N 0:45 0 0 0 4.18M 952K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.7 npd 3593 co S 0:00 0 0 0 3.60M 824K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.6 slog 3 ? S 0:02 0 0 0 3.17M 752K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.6 kern_loa 4599 p1 R 0:00 0 0 0 1.98M 648K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.5 ps 3582 ? S 0:02 0 0 0 1.77M 640K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.5 pbs 23 ? S 2:45 0 0 0 6.66M 568K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.4 nmserver 3584 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 2.07M 488K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.4 appkitSe 4588 p1 T 0:00 0 0 0 5.85M 448K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 vi 123 ? S 0:06 0 0 0 1.62M 432K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 lookupd 119 ? S 0:04 0 0 0 1.57M 408K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 netinfod 161 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 1.63M 400K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 pbs 3779 p2 S 0:00 0 0 0 1.62M 392K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 csh 3594 p1 S 0:01 0 0 0 1.62M 368K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 csh 3877 p3 S 0:00 0 0 0 1.62M 368K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 csh 4586 p2 S 0:22 0 0 0 1.64M 368K 0 0K 0 0.7 0.3 top 145 ? S 0:02 0 0 0 1.62M 360K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 sendmail 109 ? S 0:03 0 0 0 1.52M 320K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 syslogd 150 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 2.07M 320K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 lpd 118 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 1.53M 296K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 nibindd 139 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 1.52M 288K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 inetd 184 ? S 0:35 0 0 0 1.51M 272K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 cron 114 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 1.51M 256K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 portmap 4600 p1 S 0:00 0 0 0 1.55M 248K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 less 191 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 2.66M 216K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 WindowSe 160 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 2.06M 176K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.1 lpd 181 ? S 1:02 0 0 0 1.59M 168K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.1 update 2 co S 0:09 0 0 0 688K 144K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.1 mach_ini 1 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 736K 48K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.0 init
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 5 Feb 1997 18:17:20 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5dairg$bd1$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> <AF1D3D15-207621@207.147.62.235> Cc: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net In <AF1D3D15-207621@207.147.62.235> "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > On Tue, Feb 4, 1997 1:37 PM, John Rudd <mailto:jrudd@cygnus.com> wrote: > > Maybe you should try using something a little more modern? :-) > > I have a 132MHz PowerMac with 40 Megs of Memory and an '040 Turbo cube with > 16 Megs of Memory. > > I love the Mac, but, damn, that Cube is great! I spend most of my time on > it. > > It may not be the fastest machine, but I'm not convinced that it isn't the > most "modern" computer I've used. > > And, let's face it, the coolness factor of the Black hardware far outweighs > any speed deficienty it may have. I didn't mean to imply that the cube was inferior. I'm simply stating it's not really fair to complain about the speed of an application running on a 7-9 year old system, compared to one running on a brand new - 2 year old system. If he's concerned about the speed comparisons of Nextstep apps and a Windows App, why not get Nextstep for that windows box and see how fast they run then? (Considering some recent speed comparisons showed nextstep being about 2x as fast on the same processor at the same clock rate with similar amounts of memory (more memory on the windows (NT and 95) boxes, actually)) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: My Experience with a HTML EDITOR Date: 6 Feb 1997 22:19:21 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5ddld9$lbe$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <mbritte.61.32FA4D99@inconnect.com> Cc: mbritte@inconnect.com In <mbritte.61.32FA4D99@inconnect.com> mbritte@inconnect.com wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am a "really" ignorant person when it comes to home page and HTML editing... > I managed to build some homepage by looking around and learning from other > people...but it was never terrific. I finally decided to look at some of those > HTML Editor and I must admit that I found THE BEST HTML EDITOR, it is soo easy > to use and understand...I now don't have to think too much about using Tables, > background and other complicated HTML text...in my homepage... > > Here is the URL if you are interested: > http://www.inconnect.com/~mbritte/nachos/index.html > > Use it and you will realize that i am not lying... > Just so everyone reading this knows, THIS CLUELESS TWIT POSTED HERE TO ADVERTISE A WINDOWS 95 HTML EDITOR.. it doesn't even run on Nextstep.. so god only knows why he posted it to comp.sys.next.software. He's either a spammer or an idiot. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: pictures in LaTEX? Date: 6 Feb 1997 22:17:58 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5ddlam$lsm@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Is it possible to put .gif or .jpeg or .tiff pictures in a LaTEX document without saving them as a postscript file? Thanks for any help. -- Darryl _________________________________________________________________ Darryl L. James | darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu Mechanical Engineering | NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail Texas Tech University | http://www.osci.ttu.edu/ME_Dept/ _________________________________________________________________
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint question Date: 6 Feb 1997 23:09:35 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5ddobf$81v@news.xmission.com> References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <5ddm1b$so3@news.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: > On 02/06/97, Guenther Bauer wrote: > >who is able to solve the following dilemma: > > > >How is it possible to change one color of a picture (e.g. white) into > >total transparency (100%) in a conveniant way with WetPaint? Of course > >someone could delete single pixels or use the rubber tool, but is there a > >way similar to the 'Transpose Filter', to just select the source color > >and the destination color (in this case 100% transparency) and click on > >'Apply' and that's it? The 'Transpose Filter' didn't work for this > >purpose, it can exchange colors but unfortunately not transparencies (at > >least I haven't found a way to do so). > > > > Sounds like someone is trying to take a thing on a solid background > and use it on a web page or in Workspace with transparency in place of the > color right? > > I doubt you can get an easy solve for this, especially in WetPaint. > Maybe TiffanyII. > > There was a half page article in the current MacWorld on an obscure > way to do this using Photoshop layers and masks. Actually, I just tried this and there are two ways to handle it. 1. If your background is a solid color and all parts of it are connected, then you can use the "fill" tool. To set it up you must do two things: a. Set the transparent color desired in the tool inspector b. Change the inspector's pop-up from "Sover" to "Copy" c. If not a solid color, increase the "tolerance slider" to make the fill get everything. Experiment with the slider (and undo in between tries) until it works. 2. Use the "color correction" filter. This baby is really powerful, but it is tricky to set up right. Here's what I did: a. Set the "Source" to the average background color b. Set the "destination" to the transparent color you want c. Set the "alpha" channel ON on the filter panel (the B&W "A" is the right one--note that you can make the filter only affect certain channels and alpha is off by default!) d. The Tool inspector popup should read "copy" rather than "sover", otherwise you'll just sover the transparent image onto the existing image, removing the transparency... e. Set the "tolerance" slider to about 10%, since that covered the colors present in my background; the number will vary--use undo as you experiment with it And that should just about do it. If that doesn't make sense or doesn't work for you, then I mistakenly assumend something when writing the description, so ask me for help--you CAN do this in WetPaint. It isn't TIFFany II, but it IS a very powerful program nevertheless. I just hate it's gradients panel. I can't seem to make a decent linear gradation in it to save my life...I sure wish I could do linear and radial gradations like in the Icon.app gradation panel of yesteryear... -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: WetPaint question Message-ID: <E57FJr.C8t@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: don@globalobjects.com WetPaint@lighthouse.com Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:21:26 GMT References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <5ddm1b$so3@news.digifix.com> <5ddobf$81v@news.xmission.com> In comp.sys.next.software Don Yacktman wrote: > ... you CAN do this in WetPaint. It isn't TIFFany II, but it IS a > very powerful program nevertheless. I just hate it's gradients > panel. I can't seem to make a decent linear gradation in it to > save my life...I sure wish I could do linear and radial gradations > like in the Icon.app gradation panel of yesteryear... Hurrah! I am not the only one annoyed by this! The only other thing that really bugs me is that I can't set a preference for the maximum default window size. I work with images which Wet Paint thinks are a bit big and thus they default to only showing the corner of the image, forcing me to stretch the window bigger every time. When you've got a 3200 x 1200 screen area, the default choice made by the app is a bit on the conservative side. Arbitrary sized anti-aliasing instead of fixed integer factors would be nice as well. Otherwise WetPaint is a great tool. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "I have never seen anything fill up a vacuum so fast and still suck." -- Rob Pike, commenting on The X Window System
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pdf format Date: 5 Feb 1997 16:44:23 GMT Organization: ipc, U of Tuebingen, Germany Message-ID: <5dadd7$itl@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <970204161115.198AAFgQ.wayne@pareto> <5da67v$m8h@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Cc: tvz@Princeton.EDU In <5da67v$m8h@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Timothy Van Zandt wrote: > In <970204161115.198AAFgQ.wayne@pareto> joerd@mail.wsu.edu wrote: > > Does anybody know how I might convert files on my NeXT (.ps, .tex, or .dvi) > > to Adobe Acrobat format? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Wayne Joerding > > I have looked all over for such software in December, > and came up empty. > > OneVision (http://www.onevision.de) has some forthcoming > products (Digiscrpt and WebScript) for editing PostScript and PDF > that will be able to convert PostScript to PDF. However, from their > web page I gather that these part of packages for publishing houses. > They might end up being expensive, when one just wants a simple > command-line ps2pdf filter. It would be nice if they would comment to > this group about their plans. > > Interestingly, Adobe > (http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat) has not put out a > version of Acrobat for the first (and one of the few) operating > systems to use DisplayPostScript. > > The OmniGroup (http://www.omnigroup.com) has a ps2pdf program > called OmniStill, but for some licensing reason they can only > distribute to users of some other expensive package sold by > Lighthouse. (enterprise something-or-another). > > Incidentally, Gunther Furthaller, who has some association with > OneVision, makes an excellent pdf viewer, PDFView > (http://www.BITart.com/PDFView). I find it (v1.6) faster than > OmniGroup's OmniPDF (v2.0). Some files that went through > tex->dvi->ps->pdf, where dvi->ps was with Rokicki's dvips and > ps->pdf was with Acrobat Distiller on a Macintosh, viewed and > printed fine with PDFView but were munged by OmniPDF (no offense to > OmniGroup, who makes such great software, most of which is free!). > > Tim > You can add my ps2pdf to the list. It is still vaporware but it runs for me quite ok. As soon as my other stuff (CAPer, RealAudio4NS, pscheck, ...) is in a higher state of order, I will put it on my web page as quite cheapo shareware. Stay tuned, unfortunately I cannot divide myself and my paid work has a higher priority :-)... BTW. All those who wrote me to become beta tester will receive it as soon as it is ready. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> Message-ID: <9702050017.AA00420@zaphod> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.0 v146.2) From: Christian Starkjohann <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 97 01:17:43 +0100 Subject: Re: How to mount ext2 from same drive as next root? Cc: svenifer@snet.net In article <5d5om4$6pk@goofy.snet.net> svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) writes: > How do I use vmount (in combination with NFS) to mount an ext2 > partition on the same drive as root Next partition? I am trying to do > this on a non-networked (dial-up only) machine and do not know what to > do to NFS and/or Network Manager to get this to work. Have looked at > documentation with vmount, but not descriptive enough about what to do > with NFS. Can anybody provide brief outline or point me in right > direction? You don't need to do something with NFS yourself. You don't even need to know that NFS is involved with vmount, it's just how it works internally. If you have the ext2 partition on your root drive, which (I assume) should be /dev/rsd0h, you can try the command vmount -m /mount-point -p2 -t ext2 -w /dev/rsd0h The option -p2 means that vmount should look at the second primary partition for the ext2 filesystem. If it is an other partition, change the option appropriately. The option -w means that you allow vmount to write to your disk. If you don't trust it enough, just omit the -w option. If you want to find out the name of your root device, type 'mount' in a terminal window. On my machine I get among others the line: /dev/sd0a on / type 4.3 (rw,noquota,noauto) which means that /dev/sd0a is mounted as root directory. vmount uses the associated raw device for the disk and that is /dev/rsd0h. For /dev/hd0a it would be /dev/rhd0h, I think. Bye, Christian. -- Christian Starkjohann <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> or <cs@ds1.kph.tuwien.ac.at>, finger for PGP Public Key. PGP fingerprint: DF FD 40 60 91 6A 14 1C CD 2C E9 07 38 AE CB 4E
From: Pohl Longsine <pohl@screaming.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PPP Help!!! Anyone? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 10:19:05 -0600 Organization: mementech, inc. Message-ID: <32F8B2F9.54E682D1@screaming.org> References: <AF1D600C-2BE8A@207.13.170.22> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew Kim wrote: > Is there any one can tell me how to set up PPP for OpenStep 4.0 > (040 Black) by step by step instruction? I'd like to point out here that it's really bad form to crosspost support questions to all of the comp.sys.next.* groups. Be more selective, please. -- pohl@screaming.org |"Reality is that which when you stop believing http://screaming.org/ | in it doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick ----------------------+---------------------------------------------- OpenStep Inferno Java | Making the world safe for platform diversity.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Message-ID: <1997Feb5.173237.848@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: jrudd@cygnus.com Organization: Disorganization References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:32:37 GMT In <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> John Rudd wrote: > > ? Netscape can do this page in a second. > > Netscape can do this in a second on WHAT processor and memory configuration? > You're running Netscape on a 25MHz 486? Its a 486/75 which is about 2.5 faster as the 040. Netscape needs about a second for this page, so I guess, the 040 should need no longer than 3 seconds. Still, the difference is huge. > The other problem is that Omniweb seems to actually translate HTML/SGML into > RTF.. on a slower system, like a 25 MHz cube, this could probably be a bit > slow. Maybe you should try using something a little more modern? :-) In my eyes, the cube still has the power to render a almost-text page in an acceptable time. It can do Postscript quite fast, why should html be so difficult ?
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint question Date: 7 Feb 1997 04:25:00 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5deaqs$1ud@news.digifix.com> References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <5ddm1b$so3@news.digifix.com> <5ddobf$81v@news.xmission.com> In-Reply-To: <5ddobf$81v@news.xmission.com> For some idiotic reason I was thinking that the original source would have been anti-aliased onto the background, since this is what I've come up against too often lately. If thats not the case with this image, then its not anywhere near as difficult to do as I was thinking. Sorry for the confusion. On 02/06/97, Don Yacktman wrote: >sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: >> On 02/06/97, Guenther Bauer wrote: >> >who is able to solve the following dilemma: >> > >> >How is it possible to change one color of a picture (e.g. white) into >> >total transparency (100%) in a conveniant way with WetPaint? Of course >> >someone could delete single pixels or use the rubber tool, but is there a >> >way similar to the 'Transpose Filter', to just select the source color >> >and the destination color (in this case 100% transparency) and click on >> >'Apply' and that's it? The 'Transpose Filter' didn't work for this >> >purpose, it can exchange colors but unfortunately not transparencies (at >> >least I haven't found a way to do so). >> > >> >> Sounds like someone is trying to take a thing on a solid background >> and use it on a web page or in Workspace with transparency in place of the >> color right? >> >> I doubt you can get an easy solve for this, especially in WetPaint. >> Maybe TiffanyII. >> >> There was a half page article in the current MacWorld on an obscure >> way to do this using Photoshop layers and masks. > >Actually, I just tried this and there are two ways to handle it. > >1. If your background is a solid color and all parts of it are > connected, then you can use the "fill" tool. To set it up > you must do two things: > a. Set the transparent color desired in the tool inspector > b. Change the inspector's pop-up from "Sover" to "Copy" > c. If not a solid color, increase the "tolerance slider" > to make the fill get everything. Experiment with the > slider (and undo in between tries) until it works. > >2. Use the "color correction" filter. This baby is really > powerful, but it is tricky to set up right. Here's what I did: > a. Set the "Source" to the average background color > b. Set the "destination" to the transparent color you want > c. Set the "alpha" channel ON on the filter panel (the B&W > "A" is the right one--note that you can make the filter > only affect certain channels and alpha is off by default!) > d. The Tool inspector popup should read "copy" rather than > "sover", otherwise you'll just sover the transparent > image onto the existing image, removing the transparency... > e. Set the "tolerance" slider to about 10%, since that > covered the colors present in my background; the number > will vary--use undo as you experiment with it > >And that should just about do it. If that doesn't make sense >or doesn't work for you, then I mistakenly assumend something >when writing the description, so ask me for help--you CAN do >this in WetPaint. It isn't TIFFany II, but it IS a very powerful >program nevertheless. I just hate it's gradients panel. I can't >seem to make a decent linear gradation in it to save my life...I >sure wish I could do linear and radial gradations like in the >Icon.app gradation panel of yesteryear... > >-- >Later, > >-Don Yacktman >don@misckit.com ><a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a> > > -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Christian Kuhtz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 7 Feb 1997 08:09:10 GMT Organization: Paranet, Inc. Message-ID: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> <1997Feb5.173237.848@gamelan.shnet.org> <x5iv459rqw.fsf@vt.edu> Joe Reiss <jreiss@vt.edu> wrote: > thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) writes: > > >In my eyes, the cube still has the power to render a almost-text page in an > >acceptable time. It can do Postscript quite fast, why should html be so > >difficult ? > > Because Postscript code tells you exactly where each and every item is > supposed to appear on screen. You just have to draw it there. With > HTML, you have to figure positions out for yourself on the fly. These > positions will vary based on the size of the window and on the font > and on a couple dozen other things. Getting a layout that looks > decent is no simple matter, especially with tables. There's a rather > odd and finicky algorithm just to figure out how large individual > table rows and columns should be. > > In short, the problem isn't in the graphical rendering; it's in the > layout. It's not the layout. It is the overhead generate by translating rendered HTML into SGML into PostScript, which then again has to be rendered into the actual bitmapped graphic you see on the display. That's what kills it (which is why QuickDraw on Rapsody in addition to DPS is a good idea). Regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu>
From: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca (Seamus Dunne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where to find Wet Paint s'ware? Date: 7 Feb 1997 08:22:33 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5deoo9$o6f$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Can someone out there tell me where I can download Wet Paint software? Thanks for any help you can offer. SD -- If I can't die happily-- I'd rather not die at all. Anon
From: amando@gcomm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to connect via ISDN on Intel hardware? Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 10:39:06 +0200 Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Message-ID: <32FAEA2A.3CB8@gcomm.com> References: <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> <1996Dec7.230912.24020@seer.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Lynch wrote: > > In article <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic) > writes: > > Is there a driver for any ISDN card out there? Is the only way to > connect to > > Internet service provider via an ISDN router? Is it possible to use > > a ISDN card on Intel machine with NextStep? > > I haven't used an ISDN card, but have used all of the ZyXEL TAs and > routers for ISDN (we are their UK distributor). Works fine with NeXTSTEP > to connect to BBSes (e.g. Compuserve) and ISPs with PPP over V120, etc. > ISDN cards should be the same (at least active ones should be). Does those ISDN card works ok with black hardware too? Which do you recommend (Prize vs. perfomance). Thanks in Advance Amando Blasco
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint question Date: 7 Feb 1997 14:19:41 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5dfdlt$1239@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <5ddm1b$so3@news.digifix.com> Cc: sanguish@digifix.com In <5ddm1b$so3@news.digifix.com> Scott Anguish wrote: > On 02/06/97, Guenther Bauer wrote: > >Hi, > > > >who is able to solve the following dilemma: > > > >How is it possible to change one color of a picture (e.g. white) into > >total transparency (100%) in a conveniant way with WetPaint? Of course > >someone could delete single pixels or use the rubber tool, but is there a > >way similar to the 'Transpose Filter', to just select the source color > >and the destination color (in this case 100% transparency) and click on > >'Apply' and that's it? The 'Transpose Filter' didn't work for this > >purpose, it can exchange colors but unfortunately not transparencies (at > >least I haven't found a way to do so). > > > > Sounds like someone is trying to take a thing on a solid background > and use it on a web page or in Workspace with transparency in place of the > color right? > > I doubt you can get an easy solve for this, especially in WetPaint. > Maybe TiffanyII. > > There was a half page article in the current MacWorld on an obscure > way to do this using Photoshop layers and masks. > > > > How about using the fill-in tool (the bucket) and choosing the 'clear' tool in the inspector? Instead of the default 'sover' (source over destination). Is it convenient enough? Note that you can set the sensitivity for this tool (in percents, if I remember). If the names are not correct, look for similar (I don't have WetPaint here right now.) Also all the methods for replacing colors should work, if you choose the transparency of the color properly on the bottom of the 'Colors' tool. Good luck, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to find Wet Paint s'ware? Date: 7 Feb 1997 14:26:28 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5dfe2k$1239@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5deoo9$o6f$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Cc: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca In <5deoo9$o6f$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Seamus Dunne wrote: > Can someone out there tell me where I can download Wet Paint software? > Thanks for any help you can offer. SD > > http://www.lighthouse.com under support. Not extremely easy to find, but it's there. Good luck, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: rji@puma.inmos.co.uk (Richard Ingram) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 07 Feb 1997 14:50:32 +0000 Organization: Scarlet Score For Mescalero Sender: rji@puma.inmos.co.uk Distribution: inet Message-ID: <dzafpgvfev.fsf@puma.inmos.co.uk> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <5ct5cg$795@upsn6.u-psud.fr> In-reply-to: benoit@medoc-ias.u-psud.fr's message of 31 Jan 1997 16:07:44 GMT In article <5ct5cg$795@upsn6.u-psud.fr> benoit@medoc-ias.u-psud.fr (Jean BENOIT) writes: From: benoit@medoc-ias.u-psud.fr (Jean BENOIT) John Stevens (jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com) wrote: : In article <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL>, : Drs G. C. Th. Wierda <G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl> wrote: : : The 68008. Which was used in a late model Sinclair computer, the : color one (can't for the life of me remember whether is was called : the Rainbow, or some other kitschy "color" name). Wasn't that the Sinclair QL ? Jean Yes it was indeed the QL. Richard.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: fortran compiler? Date: 7 Feb 1997 15:16:23 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5dfh07$6aj@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5ddi8o$phc@highway.leidenuniv.nl> In article <5ddi8o$phc@highway.leidenuniv.nl> gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl writes: > Sven Droll wrote: > >gcc2.7.2.1 with g77 are on peanuts under /developer/languages/c/... > > As far as I am aware you also need to get the latest gcc for this. Nope. It's precompiled, but DOES require the NS Developer Package to work. It's been used/tested on NS-3.3pl1 only, however. Your mileage may vary. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nextstep for Intel, 1/3 Message-ID: <8D180D5.09B8000148.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 03:33:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Next Plows Into the PC Scene --- Nextstep for Intel brings exceptional graphics, a powerful object environment, and UNIX interoperability to the PC --- 09/01/93 UnixWorld's Open Computing Magazine Any pundit on the computer circuit will tell you that Next Com-puter Inc. is on the ropes. Having given up its hardware business, Next hopes to go the distance with its Nextstep system software for 486 and Pentium PCs. This strategy may give Next a fighting chance. But right now, Nextstep also has a glass jaw. Its $995 price tag for its user version is preposterous given the competition: ODT Lite from The Santa Cruz Operation Inc. for $695, Unixware from UNIX System Laboratories Inc. for $249, Solaris from Sunsoft Inc. for $795, and if you deign, Windows NT from Microsoft Corp. for $495. PC users considering Nextstep may also object to its present lack of applications. On the plus side, strong interoperability, including support for Novell Inc.'s Netware server, and one of the snazzier interfaces in the industry may be worth the initial sacrifice. And if Next's experience with its previous hardware is any indication, applications will soon be available in large quanti-ties, given the ease of programming the object-oriented Nextstep interface. The Nextstep operating system is based on Mach, a BSD 4.3-compatible UNIX microkernel, developed at Carnegie-Mellon University. A microkernel contains few built-in software drivers, even for disk drives or controllers. Instead, it builds a framework, into which it loads the software drivers. The framework lets the kernel manage both high-level software resources and low- level hardware devices by using object-oriented messaging. Integrated object orientation isn't Nextstep's only unique feature. Nextstep's graphical user interface (GUI) is built on Adobe Systems Inc.'s Display Postscript. Display Postscript provides excellent WYSIWYG precision and prints images faithful to the screen rendition. Unfortunately, the trade- off is you don't get the X Window System with Nextstep. Similarly, Next has not built Posix compliance into its first release of Nextstep for PCs. Next plans to add Posix compliance, however, and if you need an X server for Next, expect some ports soon. Nextstep for Intel is available from Next, value-added resellers (VARs), and hardware vendors, including Compaq Computer Corp., Dell Computer Corp., and Digital Equipment Corp. The system software comes in two versions: the user version and a developer's version, which must be purchased with the user version for a total of $2,790. Additional features you get with the developer's version include a C compiler, graphical programming and management tools, and object kits such as the DBKit database tool. We reviewed Nextstep on an Epson America Inc. Progression NX 486DX2 PC, with a 66-MHz processor, 36 mega-bytes of memory, and a Wingine graphics subsystem. The user version of Nextstep requires 120 megabytes of hard disk space and the developer's version adds another 210 megabytes. Next specifies a minimum of 16 megabytes of memory for color configurations, but recommends 24 megabytes. For grayscale, you need a minimum of 8 megabytes, but Next recommends 12 megabytes. Version 3.1 is also available for the 68030- and 68040-based systems that Next previously manufactured. A FEW CHANGES The 486 version of Nextstep 3.1 can use common VGA and SuperVGA display adapters, but only in grayscale. You need a high-performance display adapter to use 16-bit color. Next recommends a graphics subsystem with a high-speed processor connection, such as Local bus or Compaq's QVision. Nextstep supports several PC soundboards. It delivers CD-quality stereo sound, if the card can handle it. Naturally, it also supports the standard devices like parallel and serial ports. Next workstation users need not be concerned about switching from their keyboards to PC keyboards. We were surprised at how easily we adapted to the differences. Unlike Nextstep on Next's Motorola-based platforms, the PC version does not detect a diskette or a CD when inserted. Instead, you have to use the mouse to click a button or two. And because we're dealing with PCs, an internal microphone isn't guaranteed, so if you want to move from the Motorola platform, definitely make some more room on your desk. Most of the Display preferences in the Preferences application are inoperable; PC hardware can't support them. Support for the integrated services digital network (ISDN) has been dropped because Next's implementation of ISDN depends on the digital signal processors in the Next hardware. Next has also dropped its client software for Apple-share file service, which was new in version 3.0. Next recommends Ushare from IPT Inc. (San Luis Obispo, Calif.), which surpasses Next's software by bridging the Macintosh and Next file-typing approaches. Nextstep for Intel is built from the same code base as Next's Motorola version. Consequently, Nextstep applications are fully source-compatible between the two platforms. Applications are data-compatible as well. Nextstep lets Next boxes use Next files written on Intel boxes, and vice versa, allowing for the differences in processor byte ordering without using translators. The Nextstep run-time system reads and writes the files in the correct format automatically. Nextstep for Intel does not include a means of running DOS or Microsoft Windows applications. To fill this gap, Next is working with Insignia Solutions Inc. (Mountain View, Calif.) to port Insignia's SoftPC product to Nextstep for Intel, incidentally the same approach Microsoft has taken with Windows NT. SoftPC for Nextstep, which will be shipping this fall, lets you run Microsoft Windows or DOS sessions in Nextstep windows, or switch to a full-screen "takeover" mode. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mach: OS of Tomorrow Message-ID: <8D180D5.09B8000146.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 03:33:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Even though this is old news, I thought that it is (along with the following articles) relevant given the recent Apple/NeXT news. MACH MICROKERNEL OFFERS PEEK AT THE PORTABLE OS OF TOMORROW. (PC WEEK LABS: TECH VIEW) 12/21/92 PC Week Dismayed at the gargantuan BSD Unix system kernel they had created at the University of California at Berkeley in the late 1970s and early 1980s, officials at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency went to Carnegie Mellon University to join in on its new approach to building operating systems. The result, in 1986, was Mach, which serves as a foundation for modern operating systems. Mach provides to the operating system designer a basis on which to build a full suite of services for application developers. It is the first real implementation of a microkernel -- the idea that the innermost, privileged portion of an operating system should be made lean and portable. The facilities in this minimalist kernel are structured using object- oriented techniques. The abstraction of facilities this implies means that the microkernel can support a wide variety of uniprocessor and multiprocessor architectures. PC Week readers will see the name Mach used frequently in coming years, as many operating systems, both current and planned, use it as their foundation. Evidence of Mach's importance appeared in the summer of 1991, when Microsoft Corp. snapped up Carnegie Mellon's professor of computer science, Richard Rashid, to be the company's first director of research. Rashid directed the Mach operating-system kernel project. A discussion of what Mach is and isn't will be of assistance in evaluating proposed products based on it. THE HISTORY OF MACH Mach began as a research project at Carnegie Mellon in the early 1980s with the goal of incorporating recent advances in operating-systems research. The version of Mach currently used by commercial system vendors, 3.0, has not actually gotten out the door at Carnegie Mellon, although its features are basically complete. The commercial implementations of Mach are the result of some customization performed by various vendors. But as a research project, Mach 3.0 lives on at Carnegie Mellon. The list of vendors working with Mach illustrates the different benefits it provides to operating-system designers. At NeXT Computer Inc. and the Open Software Foundation, where designers wrote a new operating system, Mach provided an established and understandable foundation onto which they could design programming interfaces. They did not need to design and implement the functions already in Mach. For companies such as IBM, Mach presents a way to broaden the scope of an existing product. By basing the portable version of OS/2 on Mach, IBM gains easier support for multiprocessing and distributed processing. As an added bonus, it will gain increased portability and the ability to run multiple "personalities," such as OS/2 applications, DOS applications and AIX applications. MACH INTERNALS Some of the primitive facilities Mach supplies are for constructing tasks, the abstract basis for resource allocation; threads, the basic unit of execution; facilities for threads to allocate memory objects; and methods with which threads can communicate with each other. Since tasks are protected from each other in Mach, it is even possible to run multiple operating systems on top of Mach in the same logical system (see diagram at right). Instead of operating-system vendors having to build their own thread and memory-management facilities, they can map them directly to Mach's. This is what is done in existing Mach-based operating systems, such as NextStep, and in operating systems in the works, such as Workplace OS (see story, Page 49). Because the kernel contains only code that is necessary at that level, subsystems that are typically thought of as being part of the kernel are not in Mach. In Mach, the pager, for instance, which swaps memory to and from disk in a virtual memory system, is a user-level process that can be replaced without having to muck around with other parts of the operating system. This minimalist philosophy also leads to the absence of fundamental system- programming facilities from the kernel. For instance, even though Mach provides for threads, it provides no synchronization among them, as OS/2 does by allowing threads to block execution on the status of a semaphore. With Mach, thread synchronization can be built using other facilities in the kernel. This uncluttered approach makes the kernel and the rest of the operating system neater, as well as easier to port and maintain. As with modular programming in general, the organizational benefits should increase the overall quality of the system. Many interesting implications stem from having fundamental operating- system components, such as a pager, not run as part of the kernel. Since they are user-mode applications, they can be replaced by programmers. In the case of pagers, it is possible that the designers of different operating systems running as personalities on top of Mach might choose to implement their own pagers. After all, pager strategies for dealing with memory use can be controversial, and the most common ones are not always the most desirable. Even individual applications, such as large database systems, might have reason to implement their own pagers. This is possible, though not as clean, under some non-microkernel systems. For instance, Apple Computer Inc.'s Common LISP for the Macintosh includes a modified pager that the user installs as a system extension. The pager makes Common LISP operate more efficiently, but it becomes the system's only pager until it is uninstalled. Under Mach, different pagers can be used on demand. Another significant implication is that, in the event of a failure in the pager, file system or other user-level process, only those other threads that rely on them will fail. MULTIPROCESSING But it is its inherent support for multiprocessing and distributed processing that makes Mach revolutionary and a natural basis on which to build other operating systems. This seamless support comes largely from the object orientation of the kernel. Almost everything in Mach is an object, meaning that its behavior can be modified to accommodate different circumstances without altering its basic behavior. In Mach, all blocks of memory used by an application are objects. Because an application must gain access to these objects through Mach, Mach can determine whether they are located on another system on the network, where they had been used by another processor. Mach can then transfer the memory object over to the system that has requested it. Mach handles threads and other objects in much the same way. Thus, it can support multiprocessing within one system or distributed processing across a network, and support these features within operating systems, such as OS/2, that were not necessarily designed to accommodate them. TRANSPARENT LIBRARIES To facilitate binary compatibility with some existing system software, the Mach system allows for a designated set of system calls or traps to be redirected to a special library. This library, called a Transparent Libary, intercepts operating-system calls and redirects them to a special handler, which implements the function as appropriate under Mach. In current Carnegie Mellon implementations, Transparent Libraries are implemented as part of the Unix Server, to allow for a Unix application written for BSD Unix to execute unmodified under Mach. It should also be possible to build similar Transparent Libraries, emulating OS/2 system calls, allowing OS/2 applications to run unmodified under a Mach implementation. SCHEDULING Even though a user runs tasks, and each task is composed of at least one thread, Mach sees only the threads. This aids Mach in its seamless support for multiprocessing. Threads, after all, are only objects, and a thread on another processor is just a thread with somewhat different behavior. Mach maintains one global run queue of threads awaiting execution for the entire system, as well as individual local run queues for each processor. The threads in the local queues have absolute priority, on the assumption that they are likely to have some time-critical function to perform. For instance, a thread in a device driver for a device local to a particular processor would always be allocated to its local run queue. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: edick@idcomm.com (Dick Erlacher) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can beat shity Petium Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 17:28:07 GMT Organization: Erlacher Associates Message-ID: <32fb4e5f.127732770@superego.idcomm.com> References: <5bluur$ump$3@doffen.uninett.no> lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) wrote: >Nervous writes: >: In article <edodge-0701972222360001@ip-pdx19-23.teleport.com>, >: edodge@teleport.com (Edward Dodge) wrote: > >: €In article <32D20D7C.C75@rogerswave.ca>, jmiller@rogerswave.ca wrote: >: € >: €> Lasse Olsen wrote: >: €> > : They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. > >: €> > Where can I buy one? >: €> > Cheers... > >: €> The 533Mhz isn't out yet but you can buy a 225Mhz TODAY. >: € >: € >: €Can buy a 250Mhz today as well, I think. I wonder where the 250Mhz PPro is? > >: You can get a 300Mhz 603e as well. Even multiprocessor 604e-based computers. > > So, again, where can I buy it at 533Mhz? > Cheers... ====================================================== so . . . why is it that most participants in an inane thread as this one can't even spell?
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 7 Feb 97 10:42:01 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb7104201@howard.one.net> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> <1997Feb5.173237.848@gamelan.shnet.org> <x5iv459rqw.fsf@vt.edu> In-reply-to: Joe Reiss's message of 06 Feb 1997 23:15:03 -0500 In article <x5iv459rqw.fsf@vt.edu> Joe Reiss <jreiss@vt.edu> writes: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) writes: >In my eyes, the cube still has the power to render a almost-text >page in an acceptable time. It can do Postscript quite fast, why >should html be so difficult ? Because Postscript code tells you exactly where each and every item is supposed to appear on screen. You just have to draw it there. With HTML, you have to figure positions out for yourself on the fly. These positions will vary based on the size of the window and on the font and on a couple dozen other things. Getting a layout that looks decent is no simple matter, especially with tables. There's a rather odd and finicky algorithm just to figure out how large individual table rows and columns should be. In short, the problem isn't in the graphical rendering; it's in the layout. I keep wishing I had a couple hundred spare hours to write a web browser. So far as I'm concerned, there's no reason that most of the pages I view should take _any_ longer to layout than it takes to download them over my V.34 modem. On the pro side, I _know_ this can be made fast, having written programs to do much more complicated text layout operations on NeXTSTEP. On the con side, I also know how long it takes to do this type of thing :-). I suspect that the biggest problem is the amount of translation going on between the HTML stream and when it meets DPS. Omni has been concentrating on flexibility, rather than raw performance. I can't argue with that, because by far the most browsers will be running on newer machines than older machines ... [Perhaps once I get my ISDN connection I'll find some time. If a browser takes twice as long to display as the download, that's one thing ... if it takes 5x as long, well, hey, something has to give. Still and all, it's cheaper to buy a faster machine than write a faster browser ...] Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
From: maxp@halcyon.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Newbie NeXTstep questions Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 09:13:50 -0800 Organization: Maxgraphic Message-ID: <maxp-0702970913500001@blv-pm106-ip15.halcyon.com> I've looked through the various NeXT FAQs, but still have some questions. First, what is the difference between NeXTstep 3.3 and OpenStep 4.1? On a NeXTstation, which is preferable? I've seen some mention that 4.1 doesn't exist, but it's for sale at Optimal Objects. Is 3.0 still usable? Next, what's the difference between the User and Developer versions of NeXTstep? Does the user version come with an Objective C compiler and all the various usual UNIX stuff (grep, vi, etc)? Last, is the 8/105 configuration just hopelessly inadequate, or is it okay for doing mostly minor stuff? I'd probably just be using it for PPP and reading e-mail from home. (Oh, and where's a good place to get a NeXT HWH modem cable? I'll probably be getting a SupraFAXmodem 14.4.) Thanks, Max (my NeXTstation arrives next Friday) -- Max Pinton, max@maxgraphic.com Maxgraphic Digital Portfolio, http://www.maxgraphic.com
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 7 Feb 1997 19:50:02 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5dg11a$4f5@news3.digex.net> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> <1997Feb5.173237.848@gamelan.shnet.org> <x5iv459rqw.fsf@vt.edu> <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Christian Kuhtz) wrote: > It's not the layout. It is the overhead generate by translating > rendered HTML into SGML into PostScript, which then again has to > be rendered into the actual bitmapped graphic you see on the > display. > That's what kills it (which is why QuickDraw on Rapsody in addition > to DPS is a good idea). Aye chee wa-wa. Um, it's sgml to rtf. That is the conversion that kills. Plus the table routines are not optimized. DPS is not the killer issue here. If that were so, then any app that dealth with tables and text would be slow, but that aint so. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 1989 Tevanian Interview Message-ID: <8D180D5.09B8000147.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 03:33:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Another relevant blast from the past: MACH DEVELOPER TAKES UNIX INTO NEXT GENERATION. (MACH OPERATING SYSTEM KERNEL - INTERVIEW WITH NEXT INC'S PROGRAMMER AVIE TEVANIAN) 07/17/89 PC Week Mach, a sophisticated, compact operating-system kernel developed in the computer labs at Carnegie-Mellon University, will break into the commercial marketplace next month with the release of version 1.0 of the NeXT operating system. Five years in development, Mach is finally moving out of universities and onto users' desktops. Although not every operating-system vendor is jumping on the Mach bandwagon, several have implemented in their systems Mach-like functionality in the form of OS/2 threads, SunOS 4.0's virtual memory management and AIX's messaging facilities. In addition, BBN Advanced Computers Inc. and Encore Computer Systems Inc. currently ship large multiprocessor systems with the Mach operating system. PC Week's Evan O. Grossman recently interviewed Avie Tevanian, one of the principal developers of Mach while at Carnegie-Mellon. Tevanian is now the chief operating-system scientist at NeXT Inc. in Palo Alto, Calif. ---------- PC Week: How is Mach different from Unix? Tevanian: Unix is a much richer system, at least in its most current form, when compared to Mach. {Unix} has TCP/IP protocols and complete file-system support. These things could be built in the "Mach way" but need not be because they already exist {in Unix}. PC Week: So you didn't feel the need to invent a whole new operating system? Tevanian: That's exactly the point -- {Mach is} just a kernel. The Mach kernel gives you three things at a very-low level: virtual memory management, multitasking with multiple thread support and interprocess communication. PC Week: Doesn't Unix gives you virtual memory and multitasking? Tevanian: Mach's virtual-memory management is much more sophisticated and lets you do things that Unix systems only dream about. Unix gives you multitasking, but Mach gives you multiple threads. . . . A Unix process consists of several pieces -- the virtual address space, the file descriptors and the executable code. With Mach, you can take the execution part of it and replicate it, and have multiple {threads} executing in the same address space, which is actually like OS/2 threads. PC Week: Each thread points back to the same file? Tevanian: Essentially, yes. And all the memory is shared and everything is equally accessible, which makes for low overhead. PC Week: Why is Mach useful on multiprocessor systems? Tevanian: In terms of multiple processors, the ability to do parallel processing is the key. The two things you have to worry about are, one, the operating-system implementation has to be able to run in parallel, so you get use of all the processors, and, two, you have to make it possible for application programmers to build parallel applications. People who have done multiprocessor Unix systems always forget about the second one. They go in and they go to great effort to make Unix run in parallel. They forget about the poor programmer who has to make his or her program run in parallel as well. And that's where Mach is actually very strong, because things are tuned more toward the {application} programmer where the real software happens. PC Week: Why did NeXT pick the Unix and Mach combination? Tevanian: Everyone understands there are good reasons for multitasking -- it makes it easier to program, it lets you do multiple things at one time, etc. . . . That's what the Unix world has been good at, except when you try and merge fast user interfaces with multitasking. . . . With window systems like X you don't have enough round-trip performance between applications and the window system. Using Mach, we don't make these sacrifices -- no other multitasking computer can do what we can do with animation and sound simultaneously. PC Week: Will Mach make additional inroads outside academia? Tevanian: I think people need to realize they can't just dismiss it as a research operating system. . . . The channel is there now, and it's moving. You don't go out and buy {AT&T} System V release 3.0 at Businessland. If the question is whether it's just going to be this interesting research system or something that's really commercially viable, it's going to be the latter. Because of its technical merits, other people doing other systems are going to be interested in its features. Whether they use Mach directly or not is separate from whether or not Mach is successful. I think if some people don't use Mach directly, they will still implement those features that Mach implements. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
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From: swill@asic.sc.ti.com (Scott Williams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HDD > 1Gb Date: 7 Feb 1997 13:41:54 -0600 Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. Message-ID: <5dg0i2$cr4@phaser.asic.sc.ti.com> References: <5d78sn$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> Try partitioning the drive into <1GB sections. -Scott -- ____________________________________________________________________________ \ Scott T. Williams \ P.O. Box 660199 \ e-mail:swill@asic.sc.ti.com / \ Texas Instruments, INC. \ M/S 8664 \ Phone:(972)480-4427 / \ ASIC Test Development \ Dallas, TX 75266 \ Fax:(972)480-4406 /
From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Exchanging between a NS editor/processing and Word for Windows Date: 7 Feb 1997 21:55:34 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <5dg8cm$mp8@cnn.Princeton.EDU> My wife is in the unfortunately situation of having to transfer some documents, with minor formatting, back and forth with a firm that uses Word for Windows. Anyone have any experience doing this via the RTF format, using, e.g., Edit.app? Any other recommendations,. stories? Thanks. tim -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 7 Feb 1997 21:06:45 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> Christian Kuhtz writes > It's not the layout. It is the overhead generate by translating > rendered HTML into SGML into PostScript, which then again has to be > rendered into the actual bitmapped graphic you see on the display. > That's what kills it (which is why QuickDraw on Rapsody in addition > to DPS is a good idea). Funny thing, Christian: unless you are trying to stop the email spammers, I didn't see "@omnigroup.com" anywhere in your signature. Why don't you admit that you're blatantly speculating about a topic on which you don't even have enough money to BUY a clue, let alone know the real answer? Ken Case (the responsible programmer) has already given a response on this thread. And as others have pointed out, the real problem is the SGML->RTF conversion, not the DPS rendering time. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
From: "Integrated Wellness Systems" <byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 1989 Tevanian Interview Date: 6 Feb 1997 13:58:28 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <01bc1435$fc986800$8fcdb7c7@byrnejbb> References: <8D180D5.09B8000147.uuout@moondog.com> Sheppard, Thanks so much for posting this and the other articles. Very informative and solid evidence of the solid business decision Apple made by acquiring this technology. Now if they can just execute on it--let's hope Jobs makes this happen! John Byrne SHEPPARD GORDON <sheppard.gordon@moondog.com> wrote in article <8D180D5.09B8000147.uuout@moondog.com>... > Another relevant blast from the past: > > > MACH DEVELOPER TAKES UNIX INTO NEXT GENERATION. > (MACH OPERATING SYSTEM KERNEL - INTERVIEW WITH NEXT INC'S PROGRAMMER > AVIE TEVANIAN) > 07/17/89 > PC Week > > Mach, a sophisticated, compact operating-system kernel developed in the > computer labs at Carnegie-Mellon University, will break into the commercial > marketplace next month with the release of version 1.0 of the NeXT operating > system. >
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 7 Feb 1997 22:02:14 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5dg8p6$4f5@news3.digex.net> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5d7rq7$drp@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5d7vl2$79p@gaea.titan.org> kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) wrote: > : - it renders a large image. > It's no surprise that large images take a large amount of memory, > but perhaps there might be some things we can do (at the cost of > additional computational complexity) to improve this in some > cases. > For example, I believe we currently always render GIF and JPEG > images in 24-bit color--which is necessary for 24-bit and > (unfortunately) 8-bit color framebuffers, but is not for 16-bit > color, 8-bit gray, and certainly not for 2-bit gray. Might you consider caching all pages to disk and not in memory? Cache in FIFO manner in ~/Library/OmniWeb/CachedPages. Also, this way, we could re run pages later right from hard drive... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: rmd103@psu.edu (RM DAscenzo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep on Intel..requirements?? Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 18:00:52 -0500 Organization: HHDEV Computing Services Message-ID: <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> Can anyone provide pointers to informatin about what could be expected when setting up OpenStep Intel. Are certain configurations not supported? Are drivers available? Are the potential conflicts that are common in the WIntel world also found with OpenStep? Essentially how easy or difficult is this and can it be done with cobbled together hardware? Any information would be appreciated. Sincere thanks, -Ron
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Sendmail: removing actual host from FROM:? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 7 Feb 1997 23:22:19 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5dgdfb$qji@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN When I send mail from my machine, it says "stanj@hostname.domain". This then prompts people with some backwards mailers to reply directly to that host, which so happens to be down most of the time. Short of adding a "Reply-To: field, which gets disregarded anyway, how can I remove teh actual hostname from the From: field? I know that one can tweak the sendmail.cf and make the mail appear to come from a given host; the problem is that when several people are using the machine, I still would like to keep the username flexible. Mail should somehow appear to come from user@mailserver.domain or so. Sounds reasonable? Thanks, - Stan --- Nature photography: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for old zsh Date: 7 Feb 1997 23:34:27 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5dge63$qph@nntp.Stanford.EDU> On my Black machine, I have a zsh installed which works fine with Terminal.app -- no blank screen appended after each command. The new versions (supplied from NeXT) have this (and other) new features -- but Terminal chokes on it. Now with my new PC-NeXT I don't have a binary of the old executable anymore. Someone who does? Or the sources? I don't care that much about the bug fixes and new zsh features, I am rather annoyed by the scrollbars and a blank screen associated with everything I type. Thanks! - Stan --- Nature photography: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep on Intel..requirements?? Date: 7 Feb 1997 23:22:30 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5dgdfm$o98$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> Cc: rmd103@psu.edu In <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> RM DAscenzo wrote: > Can anyone provide pointers to informatin about what could be expected > when setting up OpenStep Intel. Are certain configurations not supported? > Are drivers available? Are the potential conflicts that are common in the > WIntel world also found with OpenStep? Essentially how easy or difficult > is this and can it be done with cobbled together hardware? > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Sincere thanks, > -Ron > the Next web page has good info. Go to www.next.com, click on openstep, click on "products" on the left margin, then click on "openstep for mach". Down at the bottom of THAT page is the hardware compatability guides and driver listings. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702071804.NAA17728@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: f70a2a08df7013ba57a9e221269ecafa - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 97 13:04:13 -0500 Subject: Re: My Experience with a HTML EDITOR Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com, mbritte@inconnect.com References: f70a2a08df7013ba57a9e221269ecafa - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Original Date: 6 Feb 1997 22:19:21 GMT > Just so everyone reading this knows, THIS CLUELESS TWIT POSTED HERE > TO ADVERTISE A WINDOWS 95 HTML EDITOR.. it doesn't even run on > Nextstep.. so god only knows why he posted it to > comp.sys.next.software. He was trying to make it sound legit, when in fact it was just a spam. > He's either a spammer or an idiot. Oh I don't see any need to make a distinction.... 6 of one... If you still have the original post you might send it to his postmaster, and then use traceroute to send a complaint to his provider (ie the jump _before_ his domain), and let them know how their feed is being used. You'd be amazed how many accounts get cancelled this way. Spam tolerance is getting lower day by day. A complaint I filed (with others) resulted in an entire domain being cut off for their abuse. Michel has already been added to my spam/bounce list. TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702072113.QAA00965@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970207190913.0067d738@inconnect.com> From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 97 16:13:50 -0500 Subject: Re: My Experience with a HTML EDITOR References: <1.5.4.32.19970207190913.0067d738@inconnect.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary "Michel L. Britte" <mbritte@inconnect.com> sent me a note of apology for the mispost. It seems like an honest mistake... After all he used his real address.... TjL
From: Lars Immisch <immisch@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: printing FrameMaker 3.0 (blackbox) to LaserJet Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 12:13:38 +0100 Organization: Immisch, Becker & Partner Message-ID: <32F9BCE2.3988@pobox.com> References: <5d86eu$cpd@news04.deltanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Willmore wrote: [snip] > In the old days, we used to download fonts to the printer before each > job. Do we need to do that, or is there a better solution? Does a > later version of Maker fix this? We tried Adobe, but they don't know > much about the NeXT version. Downloading the fonts is the way to go (fontloader). I am not sure if Adobe _could_ help you even if they wanted, which I doubt. Hope this helps, Lars -- mailto:immisch@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~immisch Yesterdays yellow yoyo can make you yawn today
From: "Barry A Starrfield" <netanya_bastarrfield@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where can I find Adobe Illustrator Mach? Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 07:43:29 -0500 Organization: Yisraelim B'Chul Message-ID: <netanya_bastarrfield-0802970743290001@slip129-37-240-140.nc.us.ibm.net> Hello There, Is it still possible to buy the Nextstep (Black) version of Illustrator? Or would anyone wish to sell a copy? Barry Starrfield
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 13:01:28 -0600 From: ralph@ingress.com Subject: NeXT Hardware & Software wanted Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <855352716.4053@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service If anyone out there has any NeXT parts or Software for sale please let me know. I have a NeXT CUBE and would like to upgrade to NeXT Step 4.0 (OS) and RAM, and HARD DRIVE, floppy, etc... contact me: ralph@ingress.com -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5dijp3$nhu@netnews.hinet.net> Date: 8 Feb 1997 20:05:53 GMT Control: cancel <5dijp3$nhu@netnews.hinet.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5dijp3$nhu@netnews.hinet.net> Sender: chsu@from.net Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Firewalling & IP Masquerading in NeXTStep Date: Sat, 08 Feb 97 23:51:42 GMT Organization: UUNet PIPEX server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNet PIPEX) Message-ID: <5dj3is$aoa@join.news.pipex.net> Keyword: firewall, masquerade, NeXTStep Hi folks. Does NeXTStep or a a kernel extension support firewalling functions, in particular, IP masquerading? I know the Linux kernel supports this natively, but I can't find anything in the NS documentation to lead me to believe it can do the same. Add-on products? Thanks, Jeff Richmond
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to connect via ISDN on Intel hardware? Date: 8 Feb 1997 12:36:09 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5dhrvq$dbr@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> <1996Dec7.230912.24020@seer.demon.co.uk> <32FAEA2A.3CB8@gcomm.com> amando@gcomm.com wrote: >Paul Lynch wrote: >> >> In article <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic) >> writes: >> > Is there a driver for any ISDN card out there? Is the only way to >> connect to >> > Internet service provider via an ISDN router? Is it possible to use >> > a ISDN card on Intel machine with NextStep? >> >> I haven't used an ISDN card, but have used all of the ZyXEL TAs and >> routers for ISDN (we are their UK distributor). Works fine with NeXTSTEP >> to connect to BBSes (e.g. Compuserve) and ISPs with PPP over V120, etc. >> ISDN cards should be the same (at least active ones should be). I don't think there are drivers for any ISDN _cards_ available. The only solution is an external TA. >Does those ISDN card works ok with black hardware too? Which do you >recommend (Prize vs. perfomance). You can connect only external TAs to black hardware, it has no ISA slots for cards. And there is a problem with external TAs: The serial interface of black hardware is limited to 38400bps (you can choose 57600bps, but I found that to be not reliable). This is far to slow for a ISDN connection. You can get a solution for the DSP port called TTYDSP from Yrrid (yrrid@world.std.com) for about 200 US$ which gives you a high speed tty, but I don't think this is compatible with existing PPP solutions. IMO the best solution for black hardware is a 2nd hand Linux PC (386/4MB should do for simple IP routing and connections to BBSes, a 486/8MB/300MB works like a charme for me as IP-router, terminal server, fax server, news server, WWW proxy, UUCP host, NTP server, NFS server for my CD changeer,... ;-) ). It only needs a cheap ISDN card (Teles, ELSA, AVM Fritz and some other german products work fine) and an ethernet card. This solution is about the same price as an external TA, needs a little more work, but has a lot more functionality (and is more fun). Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9702081635.AA08442@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: application/x-nextmail Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Next-Attachment: .tar.993.Q__Why_can_t_OmniWeb.attach, 0, 1/1, 0, 0 From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 97 17:35:17 +0100 Subject: Q: Why can't OmniWeb navigate in www.powercc.com ? begin 600 .tar.993.Q__Why_can_t_OmniWeb.attach M'YV0+EX`&$BPH,&#"!,J7,BPH4.$("+>F`@"0$00,6C4J'@Q(@R.'4-^!&%# MQL08,FK4@&'C(HV,-2P^G$FSILV;.'/JW,FSI\^?0(,V#)C	DR>%S(H6-& MJ%.@%VU(!8E1(U6/5R_&F#BRY,F4*UM&M,%RALRG:-.J7<NVK=NW3O=P66H& M!I<P;N:DD6OFC1LZ=,2PX5*7\)P[:>;,`8&D#!L[9>BD&1-F1Q\%7-J$D7.& M#4H8F#5SEO,9,YS-9+C0P5-CQ@S5>&*PO`$[!MD8L&7$F%$CMU0<L&?(@"$C M^(T9-F#3,&EW-0T<,%ZO;CV#=F$Q=M/8K</&C=\RAF70(#S&[IBZC-.`H(.F MC)PR()R4P4(%A`D00>#`80-_3AW];RSEWAPL<(&9`D2\4<9B>.7Q'0AK>'<' M"'>@D0<(3[3A1AI7E"$&"#*X4$,+8D06!H@@4.:&,'2`X$88=J1Q1AATP%<4 MA7?<X0(<;]SAWAACN##&&VV`\(.!!CKQ1HOLT0A"$A3BQ>0;((A1QX5XX:<? M?RFR\9T+8%991XM0AE&D&G7,,66*=<B1QAMI/@G"&74LN-@.+:2`I`)4H($7 M'BR`P`2-[H&P@H%'O!=946<L9H8<1!J80`(@4`I"F%/4:$:6889T$0Y>Z'E@ M#RV0:FJIJ)ZJ:JJLKNIJJ["^JJJ!F9:QJ1N,U<F&&9,FP$0:9O1W6EX@:.;& MA60`&^Q[?Z7XAI=R$"AFBR`8:,<;D\&W`@@TY`!""]Q^!"X-']$P`TDT?`N" M%$4$P00(0Q`)QYB,@I!8E2BPD4(88ZQ!81KL:;E?&5-04004!JII*UY`H*&K M&2[XV8:5G`E))`@HR$>?9FFPP4(32311A'WX33%$$DFD`(((;>2A,15/3"%" M#^OZ"<<<;Y"1AX&RQNISST#_+'0/>XIP17NXL@<?&HG1$>"%;Y@A,)?QMC%O MC7+8N]@=;@)6AAN!U@H9"$J\(<8)BWTMV7L@(`6'>VE\/09\3KY<;!@7E@C" M'&5\#4(8#&(D0PMYE+%9"UZZ<<;>:]3AQAIW!+C&8G!`JD898]`APIX)3)%& M&SCCRH0+(!RQF1E%K>&8O;@RO5@0+[*1AUZ+D4$&"$1@#F(,:@8:0PXYV%"@ M`KTF,*]@B;5WNQ@73I%EV7R#T,2/;5[H1AEWS+%G"]PK<!E<X(<O_OCDEV_^ D^>BGK_[Z[+?O_OOPQR___/37;__]^.>O__[\]^___P`,H$\` ` end
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to connect via ISDN on Intel hardware? Date: 9 Feb 1997 08:14:47 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5dk11n$6jd@vader.WolfWare.com> References: <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> <1996Dec7.230912.24020@seer.demon.co.uk> <32FAEA2A.3CB8@gcomm.com> <5dhrvq$dbr@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> In-Reply-To: <5dhrvq$dbr@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> On 02/07/97, Michael Pieper wrote: >You can connect only external TAs to black hardware, it has no ISA slots for >cards. And there is a problem with external TAs: >The serial interface of black hardware is limited to 38400bps (you can choose >57600bps, but I found that to be not reliable). This is far to slow for a >ISDN connection. You can get a solution for the DSP port called TTYDSP from >Yrrid (yrrid@world.std.com) for about 200 US$ which gives you a high speed >tty, but I don't think this is compatible with existing PPP solutions. The nice thing about black boxes though is they have that handy built-in ethernet port. If you get an external router you can connect it directly to the next box with a cross-over 10-base-T cable. I'm running a Pipeline 50 as an ISDN router for a lan consisting of a NeXTstation Turbo and an Intel PPro box both running OpenStep 4.1 for Mach and it works like a charm (since I've got 2 machines connected to the router I also needed an ethernet hub of course.) (The NeXT box is also running a PPP link for certain low-bandwith purposes too!) I opted for an external router over a Linux box with an ISDN card for a couple reasons... it doesn't require yet another box/monitor on my desk, the router was simpler to configure, I didn't need the functionality of yet another generic unix box since the NeXTstation was already configured to do all the mail, news, NFS serving etc. that I needed. Just my 2 cents, - Chris -- __________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf - NeXTStep/OpenStep Developer Mail: cwolf@wolfware.com Web: http://www.wolfware.com/cwolf/cwolf.shtml __________________________________________________
From: Dave Griffiths <dave@prim.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Arbitary precision arithmetic? Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:03:21 GMT Organization: 3Wiz - World Wide Web Consultants Message-ID: <1997Feb9.120321.1665@prim.demon.co.uk> Hi, does anyone know of a simple maths library that will let you do arbitary precision integer arithmetic from C/Obj-C on NeXTStep? I found something called "pari" but it has a Sun3 assembler file that doesn't compile. Thanks, Dave
From: harts@knoware.nl (Paul Harts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: "Can't create /Users directory" under root ?? Date: 9 Feb 1997 14:09:15 GMT Organization: Knoware Internet Message-ID: <5dklqb$hfh@news.knoware.nl> References: <5dbqg3$hr1@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <5dbqg3$hr1@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> Hi, I tried to create a new user (a local one) while being logged in as root, with the UserManager application. I have done it before without any problems, but that was in NS 3.2. I am currently running NS3.3. After I fill in the details of the user (having tried everything from not using any caps, using single names etc.) the UserManager ask if the directory /Users should be created. A yes to that question gives "Can't create /Users directory" trying to change the directory to another name has proven not to be accepted. Also destroying the current Users directory proved no success. Any infromation on this subject is highly appriciated, Paul Harts The netherlands harts@knoware.nl Next/MIME mail welcomed -- ==================================================== | harts@knoware.nl | ' What's a FAQ?' | | the Netherlands | probably is one | | NeXTmail Welcomed! | | ====================================================
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Arbitary precision arithmetic? Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:41:18 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <EmzT0Se00iWW81I3wQ@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <1997Feb9.120321.1665@prim.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1997Feb9.120321.1665@prim.demon.co.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.programmer: 9-Feb-97 Arbitary precision arithmetic? by Dave Griffiths@prim.demo > Hi, does anyone know of a simple maths library that will let you do > arbitary precision integer arithmetic from C/Obj-C on NeXTStep? Sure-- libmp.a, documented in 'man mp'. However, you'd be well advised to use the GNU MP library, libgmp.a, since the GNU implementation is significantly better than the stock Unix version.. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 9 Feb 1997 15:48:15 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> Cc: Greg_Anderson@afs.com In <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> Gregory H. Anderson wrote: > Christian Kuhtz writes > > It's not the layout. It is the overhead generate by translating > > rendered HTML into SGML into PostScript, which then again has to be > > rendered into the actual bitmapped graphic you see on the display. > > That's what kills it (which is why QuickDraw on Rapsody in addition > > to DPS is a good idea). > > Funny thing, Christian: unless you are trying to stop the email spammers, > I didn't see "@omnigroup.com" anywhere in your signature. Why don't you > admit that you're blatantly speculating about a topic on which you don't > even have enough money to BUY a clue, let alone know the real answer? > > Ken Case (the responsible programmer) has already given a response on > this thread. And as others have pointed out, the real problem is the > SGML->RTF conversion, not the DPS rendering time. > Maybe you'd call me an ignorant, but here is my opinion about OmniWeb's speed. There are two approaches to software development, two answers to the complaint that a program is too slow: 1. Write the program better. 2. Buy a faster computer. While some time ago I got the answer 2 from Omnigroup, we recently read in their post that they are in stage 1. At least with the table rendering routines. This is good news. I think that the speed of the table rendering is really ridiculous. I think (an educated guess) the problem is that some of the routines in OmniWeb are rather elegant from the programming point of view but not optimized for performance. Let's give them some time, they have rewritten OW 1.0 completely into OW 2.0, so they might need some time to optimize the code. But let's also make the message clear: While being a wonderful web browser, OmniWeb is WAY TOO SLOW, no doubt about that. To balance out the criticism: While being very slow, OmniWeb is a WONDERFUL WEB BROWSER. Howgh, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: Brian Ward <bward@stevens-tech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SQL database Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 14:44:44 -0500 Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology Message-ID: <32FE292C.59E6@stevens-tech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit do anyone know of any cheep or even free database software that supports SQL for a NeXT cube??
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Many cuts above - but how to keep the low life happy? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Date: 9 Feb 1997 19:31:57 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-i-18.usc.edu Message-ID: <5dl8nd$jtv@usc.edu> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Cc: rudy In <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > But let's also make the message clear: While being a wonderful web browser, > OmniWeb is WAY TOO SLOW, no doubt about that. > > To balance out the criticism: While being very slow, OmniWeb is a WONDERFUL > WEB BROWSER. I think, from listening to Ken, that Omni knows it's slow. I just tried out Netscape and, by comparison, OmniWeb's features, design and capabilities are far superior. In fact, they are so far above Netscape 3.01 Gold or whatever it's called, that it makes it a bit difficult to design web pages. In fact, most things about NextStep make it more difficult to design web sites, as there is little help in designing "down" to the level of Netscape and MSIE. I'm mainly talking about things like code and graphics. I find that Omniweb does many things, like graphics representation and consistency with the 3.2 Final specs (plus some of the 3.0 stuff), that other browsers can't handle yet. Ironically, I wish I could run Netscape and MSIE on my turbo slab so that I might have a better shot at making their facsimiles of html pages look decent! I have still to figure out a sure-fire way of handling graphics (I've got TIFFany, GifOmatic, Giftools, Pixel Magician, and more) and I find it a pain in the ass converting the beautiful images those programs allow me to make into something even close under Netscape/MSIE (not to mention all the other browsers which I have yet to see). It's a nightmare of pixelization, weird color mapping, and gamma viruses! -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
From: Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone successfully installed Xnext? Date: 09 Feb 1997 15:13:34 -0500 Organization: Northern Telecom Ltd., Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <iwkzpxdagb5.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> References: <iwkwwsvny20.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> <5d50fn$qc9@crcnis3.unl.edu> Feb 09 02:33:00 1997 To: Christopher Rath From: 'nobumako@escape.com' Subject: Re: Anyone successfully installed Xnext? Sent by: 'noel@nobumako.escape.com' In comp.sys.next.software you wrote: > I was unable to make it work. I have installed it on two separate > occasions (just to make sure I didn't make some silly mistake the > first time) with the same outcome: the X server is never able to > start. I've tried emailing the author, but he has never responded. I was able to get the X server to start, but only by running it from a command line in a Terminal window. I.e., the Xnext front end is flawed, but the X distribution included with the package works just fine. P.S. Can you post this reply to the newsgroup? My provider's news server is so lousily maintained that I can't seem to post right now! === Noel Bush <nobumako@escape.com> (NeXTmail A-OK!) === Brooklyn NY === Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 === Northern Telecom Ltd. | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 9 Feb 1997 22:00:51 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5dlhej$r1i@news4.digex.net> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) wrote: > To balance out the criticism: While being very slow, OmniWeb is > a WONDERFUL WEB BROWSER. Yes, I'd go as far and say, that the best quality output I see on any platform is from OmniWeb (sans any java, VRML stuff since it doesn't exist under NEXTSTEP yet). The output seems better, and more accurate than Netscape's...and I appreciate that. However, it is orders of magnitude slower for many common viewing tasks... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 10 Feb 1997 00:52:42 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5dlrgq$nkv@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > But let's also make the message clear: While being a wonderful web browser, > OmniWeb is WAY TOO SLOW, no doubt about that. > > To balance out the criticism: While being very slow, OmniWeb is a WONDERFUL > WEB BROWSER. I run OmniWeb on a Turbo Station with a 14.4 modem, and Navigator on a Mac PowerBook 5300c with a 28.8 modem. From my experience and with these hardware configurations, OmniWeb is actually FASTER that Navigator! Or at least it seems faster to me (I've never actually timed anything). This is pretty amazing, given that the Mac CPU is an order of magniturde faster than my slab, and that the Mac modem is twice as fast as what's on my slab... Or it could be that the experience of using OmniWeb is so much more enjoyable than using that aweful Navigator that I don't mind the speed. I dunno... -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb Doesn't Work Message-ID: <1997Feb9.221524.2310@juncol.juniata.edu> Date: 9 Feb 97 22:15:24 -0500 Organization: Juniata College, Huntingdon, PA -- USA I am a new NeXT user, and I am trying to install OmniWeb. I am on a NeXTstation Turbo Color running NeXTStep 3.0.5. I downloaded the software, decompressed and untared it, but it does not work. E-mail help please. -Bill Carlisle carlisle@juniata.edu
From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: daydream and colorspace? Date: 10 Feb 1997 04:27:10 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <5dm82u$p75@eve.enteract.com> I'm using Quix's daydream on a (recently acquired) Turbo Color and have run into problems with Photoshop. It appears that the color space is not mapping properly - images do not display properly and the colorspace 'picker' does not display the expected color wheel model (for hue, saturation and value). I'm not sure exactly what is being represented by the picker, but it doesn't look like an RGB model. Q: what is the latest rev of the daydream software? (the info panel reports that this is 2.1.1) Q: is it compatible with Photoshop 3.x? thanks, -Kevin -- Kevin Coffee <kpc@enteract.com> <diffwerk@enteract.com> d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html
From: Joe Reiss <jreiss@vt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 06 Feb 1997 23:15:03 -0500 Organization: My own private I-Don't-Know Sender: joe@pooh Message-ID: <x5iv459rqw.fsf@vt.edu> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> <1997Feb5.173237.848@gamelan.shnet.org> thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) writes: >In my eyes, the cube still has the power to render a almost-text page in an >acceptable time. It can do Postscript quite fast, why should html be so >difficult ? Because Postscript code tells you exactly where each and every item is supposed to appear on screen. You just have to draw it there. With HTML, you have to figure positions out for yourself on the fly. These positions will vary based on the size of the window and on the font and on a couple dozen other things. Getting a layout that looks decent is no simple matter, especially with tables. There's a rather odd and finicky algorithm just to figure out how large individual table rows and columns should be. In short, the problem isn't in the graphical rendering; it's in the layout. Joe -- | NeXTMail OK! | If I were God, I'd have more hair and a deeper voice. | | ________ | | | | |__) | ======================================================== | | (_|OE| \EISS | - JMS on being deified by the fans |
From: Carsten Ziegeler <cziege@uni-paderborn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD writing software Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:52:39 +0100 Organization: ZIEGELER INFOSYSTEMS Message-ID: <32FEEFE7.1C23@uni-paderborn.de> References: <32F7E0CB.50AD@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gbh@erols.com wrote: > > What software is available for writing to > recordable CDs? > > --gh The beta test version of the CDDesigner is available from the peanuts archive. It is a pre- and mastering application with an easy to use gui. Carsten Ziegeler ------------------------------------------------------------ ZIEGELER INFOSYSTEMS NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP DEVELOPMENT SOFT- AND HARDWARE-SOLUTIONS Carsten Ziegeler Danziger-Str. 17 email: cziege@uni-paderborn.de 33129 Delbrueck phone: +(49) 05250 - 933260 Germany Contact for more information
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Exchanging between a NS editor/processing and Word for Windows Date: 10 Feb 1997 13:25:10 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5dn7jm$7vj@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5dg8cm$mp8@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Cc: tvz@Princeton.EDU In <5dg8cm$mp8@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Timothy Van Zandt wrote: > My wife is in the unfortunately situation of having to transfer some > documents, with minor formatting, back and forth with a firm that > uses Word for Windows. Anyone have any experience doing this > via the RTF format, using, e.g., Edit.app? Any other recommendations,. > stories? > > Thanks. > > tim > I'd recommend CedarWord for that task. It's rather cheap and fully supports the RTF format (significantly better than Edit.app). And its also a pretty good (small) Word Processor. See: http://www.cedar.co.uk/ for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for old zsh Date: 10 Feb 1997 13:29:28 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5dn7ro$7vj@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5dge63$qph@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Cc: stanj@cs.stanford.edu In <5dge63$qph@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Stan Jirman wrote: > On my Black machine, I have a zsh installed which works fine with > Terminal.app -- no blank screen appended after each command. The new versions > (supplied from NeXT) have this (and other) new features -- but Terminal > chokes on it. > > Now with my new PC-NeXT I don't have a binary of the old executable anymore. > Someone who does? Or the sources? I don't care that much about the bug fixes > and new zsh features, I am rather annoyed by the scrollbars and a blank > screen associated with everything I type. The new zsh version (3.0.2) works pretty well with nextstep on intel and motorola, if you use the following entry for /etc/termcap, instead of the original vt100 entry (thanks to the zsh-workers mailinglist): d0|vt100|vt100-am|vt100am|dec vt100:\ :cr=^M:nl=^J:bl=^G:ta=^I:\ :do=^J:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:sf=2*\ED:\ :le=^H:bs:am:cm=5\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=2\E[C:up=2\E[A:\ :ce=3\E[K:cd=50\E[J:so=2\E[7m:se=2\E[m:us=2\E[4m:ue=2\E[m:\ :md=2\E[1m:mr=2\E[7m:mb=2\E[5m:me=2\E[m:is=\E[1;24r\E[24;1H:\ :ct=2\E[3g:st=2\EH:\ :rf=/usr/lib/tabset/vt100:\ :rs=\E>\E[?3l\E[?4l\E[?5l\E[?7h\E[?8h:ks=\E[?1h:ke=\E[?1l:\ :ku=\EOA:kd=\EOB:kr=\EOC:kl=\EOD:kb=^H:\ :ho=\E[H:k1=\EOP:k2=\EOQ:k3=\EOR:k4=\EOS:pt:sr=2*\EM:vt#3:xn:\ :sc=\E7:rc=\E8:cs=\E[%i%d;%dr:\ :it#8:xo: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pictures in LaTEX? Date: 10 Feb 1997 13:57:41 GMT Organization: Universitaet Osnabrueck Message-ID: <5dn9gl$94a@deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de> References: <5ddlam$lsm@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <5ddlam$lsm@ttacs7.ttu.edu>, darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James) writes: > Is it possible to put .gif or .jpeg or .tiff pictures in a LaTEX > document without saving them as a postscript file? I do not think so. A least, it should be very easy to go the postscript way via the "Net PNM" Tools providing batch commands for "giftopnm" and "pnmtops". You might be able write a TeX-macro which uses this two commands. And you might reask the question in a "TeX" related newsgroup. Bernhard
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: TCL for NeXT (HELP) Date: 10 Feb 97 08:22:17 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb10082217@slave.one.net> References: <32EEA76D.41C67EA6@oar.net> <SHESS.97Jan29095304@howard.one.net> <1997Feb9.105307.1337@prim.demon.co.uk> In-reply-to: dave@prim.demon.co.uk's message of Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:53:07 GMT In article <1997Feb9.105307.1337@prim.demon.co.uk>, dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: In article <SHESS.97Jan29095304@howard.one.net>, shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: >I've posted a copy of tcl7.6 modified to compile under NeXTSTEP3.3 >to my home page. Has anyone ported Tk to NeXTStep? I've had it running under Xnext, but no NeXTSTEP, yet. Last time I looked (tk4.1, I think), it looked like it was just too X11-based. Essentially, you'd have to write an emulator translating X11 calls into NeXTSTEP calls, and I really didn't want to get involved with that. Besides, I'd much rather have native "widgets". I don't want to see 12-pixel borders on my buttons, even if the script author wanted them! That might be a more useful port, but it would probably also take somewhat longer than an X11 emulation. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SQL database Date: 10 Feb 1997 14:02:22 GMT Organization: Universitaet Osnabrueck Message-ID: <5dn9pe$94a@deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de> References: <32FE292C.59E6@stevens-tech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <32FE292C.59E6@stevens-tech.edu>, Brian Ward <bward@stevens-tech.edu> writes: > do anyone know of any cheep or even free database software that supports > SQL for a NeXT cube?? mSQL also called MiniSQL. Even saw an EOF interface for it. But there ought to be more. Bernhard Reiter
From: jennifer@takeaguess.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-R Media Blowout Date: 10 Feb 1997 14:14:18 GMT Organization: thecopycatshop Message-ID: <5dnafq$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> We have the following CD-R media for sale. Brand: Pioneer Type: Printable Media (Surface is blank for printing or labels) Type: Gold on Green Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.99 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: Maxell Type: Gold on Gold Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.55 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: TDK Type: Gold on Green Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.55 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: Hewlett Packard Type Gold on Gold Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 7.15 Minimum Order: 10 Lifetime Warranty The Copy Cat Shop has all your CD duplication, replication, recorders, software, and media needs. If you have any questions feel free to call. Cordially, The Copy Cat Shop 213-650-1680 213-650-9110 Fax
From: tpali@everx.szbk.u-szeged.hu (Tibor Pali) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTstep for spectroscopist? Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:06:02 +0100 Organization: Inst. Biophysics, Biological Res. Centre, Szeged Message-ID: <19970210160602844696@esrmac00.szbk.u-szeged.hu> My institute is considering a purchase of a fast computer (below 10k $) for the folowing purpose (in the order of importance): - molecular modelling/dynamics - software development (in C, FORTRAN and Java for spectrum simulation and data processing) - database building/management (i.e. spectrum libraries) - data presentation (spectrum plotting, fitting, etc.) - web service - symbolic mathematics. The candidates are a Sun UltraSparc 1, multiprocessing PowerPC and dual PPro. I would like to know whether Openstep for Mach as an OS is suitable for my purpose and, if yes, what hardware would be best, and what are/will be the most common and capable applications for the above tasks. Thanks, -- Tibor Szeged, Hungary
From: Joseph Panico <jpanico@online.disney.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Arbitary precision arithmetic? Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:48:17 -0500 Organization: Disney Online Message-ID: <32FF3531.580@online.disney.com> References: <1997Feb9.120321.1665@prim.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Griffiths wrote: > > Hi, does anyone know of a simple maths library that will let you do > arbitary precision integer arithmetic from C/Obj-C on NeXTStep? I found > something called "pari" but it has a Sun3 assembler file that doesn't > compile. > > Thanks, > > Dave Of course the Foundation's NSDecimalNumber will also allow you to do fixed point, near arbitrary (exponent of +-127) precision arithmetic. If you are so inclined, you can use a C interface into this functionality rather than access it as Obj-C classes. Look in NSDecimal.h. -- Joe Panico Disney Online jpanico@online.disney.com
From: svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: https browser? Date: 10 Feb 1997 15:05:00 GMT Organization: "SNET dial access service" Message-ID: <5dndes$qen@goofy.snet.net> Hi- I am using OmniWeb 2.1 which does not have offer secure services. Is there a browser for Next that does? Much thanks Sven
From: jennifer@takeaguess.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 10 Feb 1997 14:14:18 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5dnafq$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5dnafq$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <5dnafq$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Mon Feb 10 17:08:37 1997 Original subject was: CD-R Media Blowout
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: printing FrameMaker 3.0 (blackbox) to LaserJet Date: 10 Feb 1997 16:47:15 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5dnjej$c1v@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5d86eu$cpd@news04.deltanet.com> Cc: jaws@bizcharts.com In <5d86eu$cpd@news04.deltanet.com> John Willmore wrote: > In the old days, we used to download fonts to the printer before each > job. Do we need to do that, or is there a better solution? Does a > later version of Maker fix this? We tried Adobe, but they don't know > much about the NeXT version. I don't know who it was, but someone on the net pointed out that an additional property called _nxfinalform in the printcap entry of the printer in question will make Nextstep automatically download the used fonts to the printer before printing the document. As an example: ray:rft> nidump printcap / Papermill: \ :_nxfinalform:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/Druckwerk:rm=papermill:rp=:lp=: \ :ty=HP LaserJet 5M:note=Papersize is A4:lo=lock:rs: This can be entered using the Netinfomanager by adding the property _nxfinalform to the netinfo directory of the printer. I do not know which versions of Nextstep will recognize this property. I am only using Nextstep 3.3 on intel and motorola and it works. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pictures in LaTEX? Date: 10 Feb 1997 18:22:21 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5dnp0t$1tbn@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5ddlam$lsm@ttacs7.ttu.edu> darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James) wrote: >Is it possible to put .gif or .jpeg or .tiff pictures in a LaTEX >document without saving them as a postscript file? yes, but.. ok, you could do so, and generate output from DVI using a different dvi driver instead of dvips. I advise against it. Alternatively, I seem to remember that the eps.sty package let's you enter a shell command inside an \epsfile{} directive instead. I think that you can do a \epsffile{`gifftops file.gif`} or something similar. Check out the excellent eps documentation that comes with NEXTSTEP (sic). Hope this helps, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone successfully installed Xnext? Date: 10 Feb 1997 17:37:27 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5dnmcn$1tbn@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <iwkwwsvny20.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> <5d50fn$qc9@crcnis3.unl.edu> <iwkzpxdagb5.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> wrote: >I was able to get the X server to start, but only by running it from a >command line in a Terminal window. I.e., the Xnext front end is flawed, >but the X distribution included with the package works just fine. Just wanted to add my own 2 cents. First of all, I hope we're talking about the same "Xnext" - the shareware Xnext package by Stefan Leuker, which can be retrieved from www.peanuts.org. I've tested it quite thoroughly on a variety of platforms, since I was looking for an X implementation that would allow me to do Java development. I have an old copy of CoXist, but ever since I upgraded to 3.3 it frequently crashed (actually, it would start to hang, and had to be kill -9'ed). My experience: Black Hardware, 3.3: No problems at all. Black hardware, 4.1: No problems at all. Intel hardware, 4.1: Works ok, but does not feel any faster then on black hardware, which I had expected (and hoped). I was a bit disappointed. However, this may be related to the fact that NeXT machines have a very efficient graphics HW, whereas my Pentium 90 uses an ATI m64 graphics card, which isn't exactly fast. Would another card improve the graphics speed? Suggestions are welcome. So, I have not experienced any problems with Xnext. Make sure to get the latest release, and install all necessary components. If you still have problems, get back to me in personal email, and I will try to help you fix them. To summarize: On black hardware, Xnext is a good choice. Well worth the shareware fee. All the best, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: spamwall~mouser@zercom.net (Martiin-Gilles Lavoie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:11:01 -0500 Organization: Internet-Login Distribution: inet Message-ID: <spamwall~mouser-1002971311010001@204.191.6.123> References: <32F416F1.6576@q-net.pair.com> In article <32F416F1.6576@q-net.pair.com>, webmaster@q-net.pair.com wrote: > Please help, I am in desperate need of hardware and software for my NeXT > Station. Bellow is the list of items I need... > > 1 Monoter Cord- Monocrome- I am unsure since I can not even turn on the > computer > 2 Power Cords- One for Printer and One for computer itself > > 1 Printer Cords- To connect the printer to the computer > > 1 CD-Rom Drive- That can be connected to the SCSI port > > 1 Hard Drive (500 or so megs)- That can be connected to the SCSI port > > 1 Latest version of the operating system- Developer and user version for > a Motorola processer > 1 Set of Software- Browser, E-Mail Client, Word Processer, Spread Sheet, > any other useful software. > 1 A later version of their web development suiet for Motorola > > I have a Motorola NeXT Station with a Mega Pixel monoter. I also have a > NeXT printer(laser). I am unsure of the RAM or Hard Disk space since I > am unable to turn the computer on. Also if anyone could direct me to a > few good books on NeXT. > > Thanks > Tom Reminga > E-Mail me at: > mailto: webmaster@q-net.pair.com > > Q-Net Internet Services > http://www.q-net.pair.com Check out Spherical Solutions at www.orb.com. They have cheap NeXT hardware and components. Martin-Gilles L.
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: latex for OS 4.1? Date: 10 Feb 1997 17:58:18 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5dnnjq$1tbn@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5d9pjb$oek@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <5dd0b9$4fj@crcnis3.unl.edu> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: >In article <5d9pjb$oek@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss > writes: >> to bite the bullet and install teTeX. Unfortunaltely, there isn't >> a .pkg file around (somebody pu-leeze build one!), so you have to >> install it manually. There also seems to be some incompatibility >> with TeXView.app. Maybe somebody with teTeX experience can advise? >I think teTeX IS a package. If not, it IS a simple tar.gz file, that you >unpack into (I think) /usr/local/tetex, or something like that. Not rocket >science. Certainly not.. but that was not the case, at least not with the tar file and instruction set _I_ had. And no, tetex is not available as a pkg, either. It would be great if somebody could build one! When I tried tetex installation two weeks ago, it came with an install routine, which printed a cryptic error message during some intermediate step, and simply terminated without giving any useful hints as to what might have been wrong. Now tetex might be a very nice piece of software, but that is certainly not the comfortable, simple installation that Nextstep users are normally used to. So, if some kind sould has tetex running, and knows the incantations required to build a package, I'm sure it would be appreciated by many Nextstep users. All the best, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: https browser? Date: 10 Feb 1997 19:34:20 GMT Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands Message-ID: <5dnt7s$8e@highway.leidenuniv.nl> References: <5dndes$qen@goofy.snet.net> svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) wrote: >Hi- I am using OmniWeb 2.1 which does not have offer secure services. >Is there a browser for Next that does? Yes, it's called OmniWeb. Drop in the bundle ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/www/omniweb2bundles/htt ps.0.5a.NIHS.bs.tar.gz, which is conveniently located outside the US so you are *im*porting ammunition, which is allowed. There may be a patent snag, though. Sigh. -- Geert Jan van Oldenborgh work: oldenbor@knmi.nl private: gj@rulil0.LeidenUniv.nl, soon gjvo@xs4all.nl web: http://rulgm4.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html, http://www.xs4all.nl/~gjvo
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: 10 Feb 97 19:00:06 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Distribution: inet Message-ID: <AF2520B9-219889@207.147.60.191> References: <spamwall~mouser-1002971311010001@204.191.6.123> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.programmer, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.soft-sys.nextstep On Mon, Feb 10, 1997 1:11 PM, Martiin-Gilles Lavoie <mailto:spamwall~mouser@zercom.net> wrote: > > Please help, I am in desperate need of hardware and software for my > NeXT > > Station. Bellow is the list of items I need... > > > > 1 Monoter Cord- Monocrome- I am unsure since I can not even turn on > the > > computer > > 2 Power Cords- One for Printer and One for computer itself You can get these in any computer store. > > > > 1 Printer Cords- To connect the printer to the computer > > > > 1 CD-Rom Drive- That can be connected to the SCSI port Any SCSI CD ROM drive will work. > > > > 1 Hard Drive (500 or so megs)- That can be connected to the SCSI port Any SCSI HD will work, regardless of whether it is formatted NeXT, mac or IBM. Try it, you'll see what I'm talking about. > > > > 1 Latest version of the operating system- Developer and user version for > > a Motorola processer > > 1 Set of Software- Browser, E-Mail Client, Word Processer, Spread Sheet, > > any other useful software. > > 1 A later version of their web development suiet for Motorola > > > > I have a Motorola NeXT Station with a Mega Pixel monoter. I also have a > > NeXT printer(laser). I am unsure of the RAM or Hard Disk space since I > > am unable to turn the computer on. Also if anyone could direct me to a > > few good books on NeXT. Steve Jobs and the NeXT Big Thing --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: apache 1.1.3 webserver on NSFIP & Motorola? Date: 10 Feb 1997 20:37:55 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5do0v3$e7v@news.tamu.edu> Does anyone have apache 1.1.3 compiled for NS on Intel and Motorola? Could you please NeXTMail it to me or could I ftp from somewhere? The latest compiled version www.apache.org has is 1.1.0 and I'm not set up to compile on both these platforms. Stephen
From: "M. C. Kim" <mckim@online.ru> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica 3.0 print problem Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:30:42 +0300 Organization: Bauman Moscow State Technical University Message-ID: <32FF8572.53A5@online.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings. Currently I use Mathematica 3.0 for NEXTSTEP/Mach-Intel on my pentium PC. Everytime I try to print notebooks, The following error messages are overlapped on the printed notebooks: ERROR: undefined OFFENDING COMMAND: nextdict STACK: Except the error messages above, everything works fine. I printed notebooks to postscript files and checked out and found that every .ps files generated by print command of Mathematica includes following line in their codes: nextdict /_journalRecording false put When I manually remove this line from .ps files, they printed as normal. My system configuration is like this: Pentium 133MHz 64MB EDO RAM ASUS PCI mainboard Parallel port is configured as ECP HP LaserJet 6MP with 3MB RAM MGA Millennium 8MB Would somebody help me to correct this error? Thanks in advance. Myoung-Cheol Kim Moscow, Russia mckim@online.ru http://www.online.ru/people/mckim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Re: help:can't compile Samba.. Message-ID: <E50t3n.L50@free.fdn.fr> Sender: news@free.fdn.fr Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant. References: <5cj77f$i29$1@kronos.crosslink.net> <5ckcvs$7i8@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:30:58 GMT In article <5ckcvs$7i8@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>, you wrote: > This are my flags > # This is for NEXTSTEP Release 3.0 and greater (including OPENSTEP > for Mach). > # contributed by brad@cac.washington.edu (Brad Greer) > # additional configuration by pmarcos@next.com (Paul Marcos) > # For compiling n-way fat executables, you should append the > appropriat -arch > # flags to the FLAGSM variable. Valid flags are: > # -arch m68k > # -arch i386 > # -arch hppa > # -arch sparc > # To compile 4-way fat, you would append > # -arch m68k -arch i386 -arch hppa -arch sparc > FLAGSM = -DNEXT3_0 -arch m68k > LIBSM = > > And here is the output after the make commando > ....... > Compiling password.c > Compiling quotas.c > Compiling uid.c > Linking smbd > ld: Undefined symbols: > _waitpid > *** Exit 1 > Stop. > Thanks, > > -- > Anton Fasching PST Informatik > Tel :. 089/2178-2179 > http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~afaschin/ #define waitpid(pid, statp, opt) wait4((pid)==-1?0:(pid), \ statp, opt, (struct rusage *)0) Hope that helps. --- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 (0)1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 (0)1 48 55 09 90 GSM: 33 (0)6 60 46 36 83
From: Stephen Peters <speters@cygnus.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: TCL for NeXT (HELP) Date: 10 Feb 1997 11:51:07 -0800 Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <qd914wigno.fsf@blues.cygnus.com> References: <32EEA76D.41C67EA6@oar.net> <SHESS.97Jan29095304@howard.one.net> <1997Feb9.105307.1337@prim.demon.co.uk> <SHESS.97Feb10082217@slave.one.net> shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > Has anyone ported Tk to NeXTStep? > > I've had it running under Xnext, but no NeXTSTEP, yet. Last time I > looked (tk4.1, I think), it looked like it was just too X11-based. > Essentially, you'd have to write an emulator translating X11 calls > into NeXTSTEP calls, and I really didn't want to get involved with > that. > > Besides, I'd much rather have native "widgets". I don't want to see > 12-pixel borders on my buttons, even if the script author wanted them! > That might be a more useful port, but it would probably also take > somewhat longer than an X11 emulation. The Tk8.0 release seems to be focusing a bit more on providing the ability to use native buttons, menus, scrollbars, and font designations. I've been toying with the idea of trying to do a NeXTSTEP/OpenStep port, but it's still kind of low on my to-do list :-) -- Stephen L. Peters speters@cygnus.com PGP fingerprint: BFA4 D0CF 8925 08AE 0CA5 CCDD 343D 6AC6 "What, do you think soup is a biped?" -- Crow, MST3K
From: Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone successfully installed Xnext? Date: 10 Feb 1997 16:42:29 -0500 Organization: Northern Telecom Ltd., Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <iwklo8wz6be.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> References: <iwkwwsvny20.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> <5d50fn$qc9@crcnis3.unl.edu> <iwkzpxdagb5.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> <5dnmcn$1tbn@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> writes: % Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> wrote: % >I was able to get the X server to start, but only by running it from a % >command line in a Terminal window. I.e., the Xnext front end is flawed, % >but the X distribution included with the package works just fine. % % Just wanted to add my own 2 cents. First of all, I hope we're % talking about the same "Xnext" - the shareware Xnext package by % Stefan Leuker, which can be retrieved from www.peanuts.org. % ... % To summarize: On black hardware, Xnext is a good choice. Well worth % the shareware fee. Yes, it was the Stefan's shareware package I referred to. Any assistance you could provide would be appreciated. I'll follow-up with you via email and then post the summary of our conversation to this group. Christopher === Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 === Northern Telecom Ltd. | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: philippe_Provost <phil@cnam.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Lotus Domino 4.5 with WEbObject ? Date: 10 Feb 1997 20:57:28 GMT Message-ID: <5do23o$hn6@pauli.cnam.fr> Greetings, Forgive me if that request is not sent to the appropriate group but i found no other to send it to. I attended the Lotus conference (LotusSphere97) and found that their Domino Server looks very appealing... native HTML embedded, NNTP server embedded, SMTP/Mime server embedded, Java curently being integrated.. and administration tools for managing these... I am a NeXT fellow from the beginning and I think that WOF is still unmatched however I really think that the combination of the two would be very very interesting. (of course Domino talks with a Notes server, to maintain all Notes services). NOTE that with MQSerie (from IBM), you can extract data from the Mainframe very securely and put those in a Notes server, which also means a Domino server (ie WWW). Does anybody tried to tie them altogether ? any more info available ? Thank you for your help Philippe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702101419.JAA19944@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: a0885666e743f99974ddb1310fa759d8 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 09:19:13 -0500 Subject: Re: OmniWeb Doesn't Work Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: a0885666e743f99974ddb1310fa759d8 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu Original Date: 9 Feb 97 22:15:24 -0500 > I am a new NeXT user, and I am trying to install OmniWeb. I am on a > NeXTstation Turbo Color running NeXTStep 3.0.5. I downloaded the > software, decompressed and untared it, but it does not work. I don't know what NeXTStep 3.0.5 is, but if it really is a version between 3.0 and 3.1 then OW may not run on it. You might try getting the FoundationUserPatch from NeXTanswers but I have no idea if it would work and therefore would not suggest/recommend that you do so. TjL
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Amelio 2/97 interview Message-ID: <8D1C300.09B800016F.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 12:48:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Amelio: Trying to do what's right Apple chief talks candidly about his bonus, Steve Jobs, media pressure 02/09/97 San Francisco Examiner A year ago Wednesday, Gil Amelio became chairman of Apple Computer Inc. His assignment: turn around a company that was starved for cash, bloated with inventory, plagued by computer bugs and stuck with an aging operating system. Last week, the man who calls himself the Doctor, for his degree in physics and his penchant for turnarounds, gave a good news-bad news diagnosis to Apple shareholders in Cupertino. True, the company had sold its inventory and banked $1.8 billion in cash. A repair program had tackled quality problems, and in a bold move, Amelio had acquired Next Inc. from Apple co-founder Steve Jobs in a plan to make Next's powerful software the soul of an improved Macintosh. As part of the deal, Amelio made Jobs his special advisor. So why then, are Apple shares near a 10-year low on Wall Street? And why did Apple's board of directors award Amelio a $2 million bonus in November, when sales plunged so far in December that Apple is on the verge of 2,000 to 3,000 layoffs? Amelio spoke with The Examiner Friday about the slings and arrows of heading Silicon Valley's most closely-watched company. Q: In October Apple turned a profit. In November the board voted you a $2 million bonus. In December, sales went down. Did you deserve that reward? A: There are two components to my contract. One is based on merit and one is based on living to the next year. When the board hired me, they wanted to put some golden handcuffs on me so I would stay. The deal they made was for every year I clicked off, I earned a million-dollar bonus, not based on anything but being here. The other part was a merit bonus. There were specific tasks the company set. Measured on that basis we did what was expected of us. We brought down the headcount by about 3,500 people, more than 20 percent. We dropped the break even point from about $12 billion to about $9 billion. And we did that by September. The question the Monday morning quarterbacks ask is: Should we have done more? The answer is yes. But was there any way of knowing it at the time? I don't think so. A few breaks would have made a big difference. The quality problems on the PowerBooks cost us. We shipped about 100,000 fewer PowerBooks in the fall because of quality problems with the 5300 model. If the PowerBook had been a little healthier, if people had bought the normal number of computers at Christmas, you'd have had a totally different story. These two events are partly in our control but not totally. Had these two things gone our way they could have made a different scenario. Then you'd probably have been praising me for being a brilliant manager and I wouldn't be any more deserving than the converse. Q: What is it like running a company that gets as much scrutiny as Apple? A: If we were doing great and getting this kind of coverage we'd be thrilled. So it cuts both ways. My general experience with the press has been that when things are not going well the press reports it as worse than it is, and when things are going well the press reports it as better than it is. There's no question Apple has some real problems. But there's some real chicken little reporting going on out there. Q: Does the way you handle press make matters worse? For instance, when you mentioned the possibility of layoffs in an interview last week you had to realize we'd ask how many. A: Do I lie and tell you I'm not thinking about it? I'm better off being straightforward, and if there's something I'm not comfortable talking about to say "no comment." But I don't always follow my own rules. I can't tell you the number of people at this time. It's going to take us weeks to do this properly. You don't want to shoot first and ask questions later, especially when there are people involved. Q: In last week's management shuffle you put Avie Tevanian and Jon Rubinstein in charge of software and hardware development. Both worked for Steve Jobs at Next. How would you respond to people who think you've given Steve a chance to recreate Next inside Apple? A: That's not fair. Avie and Jon are two incredibly talented guys. When Avie came out of Carnegie Mellon (University ) nine years ago he was the most heavily recruited guy at the time. You had Steve Jobs and Bill Gates personally trying to woo him. He's your ultimate Heisman trophy winner for software. As far as Jon Rubinstein, I was incredibly impressed with him after I met him. Steve (Jobs) did recommend him, it's true. But the guy has had his own career in his own right. As you know, I've felt all along Apple needs to simplify their hardware models. We made a little progress on this last year, but not as much as I wanted to. Jon understood better than anyone else I had met precisely what I was talking about. So you might say this was the fine hand of Steve working in the background, but I really think that's a somewhat simplistic view. Q: Steve Jobs is charismatic, possibly brilliant. But people who've seen him at the corporate level say he's a bit arrogant and ruthless. Didn't you take a chance by bringing him into the executive council? A: This is not about my ego. I've always tried to do what I thought was right for the business and not worry so much about ego. Steve is a smart guy. He understands the soul of what Apple is about. He has an incredibly good understanding of the industry. I don't mind listening to his points of view. I don't always agree, but it turns out we agree on a lot of stuff, and so that's made our relationship easier to manage. Maybe if I disagreed with him more it would be more tempestuous. In the final analysis I make the decisions. You have to look at this and say, if you can get someone who's smart enough to help you, sometimes you put up with some of their idiocyncracies. Q: You have high hopes for the new laptop and desktop Macs due out soon. Can you be sure they won't be hurt by quality and backlog problems? A: On the quality issue we've done some new things. We have a quality assurance team that literally tries to break the product. By the time it survives the torture test it's probably good. The data show quality on the PowerBook 1400 is 10 times better than the 5300. So the process works. It's going to be more challenging to build all the PowerBooks the market is going to demand. I expect this will be an extraordinarily hot product and may exceed for a quarter or two what we can build. We're limited by our suppliers, especially for flat-panel screens. I think the new Montana series of desktops will be really successful, too. They will be out a month or so behind the PowerBooks. They should be easier to keep in volume production. Q: The new Rhapsody operating system, based on Next technology, will run on Intel chips. Are you contemplating moving Apple software into the Intel world? And if so, how do you handle that transition and the people who depend on the PowerPC chip? A: If you're in my shoes you want multiple sources of supply where your business is not held captive by one supplier or one technology. Today the Mac OS is not a portable operating system. It's woven very tightly into the hardware. But if you could get a next generation operating system that was portable, that would be the very smart thing to do. If I have a portable OS that could run on PowerPC, Pentium, MIPS, Alpha, all of those chips, that gives us alternatives we don't have. What if Motorola and IBM stopped making PowerPC chips? This gives me a contingency plan. Now does that mean we abandon the PowerPC chip? Heck no. We'd be foolish to. We have a lot of customers with PowerPC chips and we're going to support them. But I do look foward to the possibility, a year or two downstream, where I could come up with products based on different processors. Q: Any last words? A: We have very nervous customers out there because of saturation coverage we've had in the press. If I could speak to them directly I would say, be confident. We've got a lot of great capabilities and great plans. The middle part of a turnaround is messy. My standard joke is that there's certain things you don't like to see being made. One is sausage, another is legislation, and a third is turnarounds. It's very messy when you're in the middle of it, and if you chronicle every step, it's pretty frightening. Having been that road three or four times before, I feel pretty comfortable telling people there's a light at the end of that tunnel, but we've got miles to go before we can sleep. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: https browser? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E5Ep8J.2CI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:33:55 GMT References: <5dndes$qen@goofy.snet.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5dndes$qen@goofy.snet.net>, Sven Crouse <svenifer@snet.net> wrote: >Hi- I am using OmniWeb 2.1 which does not have offer secure services. >Is there a browser for Next that does? > Yes. There's a bundle for OmniWeb that supports HTTPS. Look at OmniGroup's download site for OmniWeb and it should be at the bottom. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Gilles Champagne <gch@logibec.com> Subject: FaxModem supported on NeXTStation with Nextstep 3.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32FF8EE1.6744@logibec.com> Sender: news@logibec.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Logibec Groupe Informatique Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:10:57 GMT Hi, I'm planning on buying a faxmodem for my NextStation Turbo with NeXTStep 3.3 and I'd like to know what models currently are supported and where I could find drivers for those. Thanks in advance Gilles Champagne gch@logibec.com I come up with my own opinions and they are not necessarily shared by others.
From: carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb1.0 - No images? Message-ID: <1997Feb11.010551.2311@juncol.juniata.edu> Date: 11 Feb 97 01:05:51 -0500 Organization: Juniata College, Huntingdon, PA -- USA I have installed OmniWeb 1.0 on NS3.0 and it runs fine, except it does not display images. Any ideas? - please email. -Bill carlisle@juniata.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint question Message-ID: <1997Feb10.155259.373@tennis.opus1.com> From: dkoski@gorgatron.running-start.com (David Koski) Date: 10 Feb 97 15:52:59 -0700 References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <5dliua$6tt$1@jake.esu.edu> Organization: Running Start, Inc. There have been a lot of good suggestions on how to make this work: - set the "transparency color" to something other than white. This is what shows through the transparent portions. - make sure you are compositing in "COPY" mode. - enable the alpha channel in the filter inspector. Some filters work on all channels all the time -- their inspector will disable the channel picker. - fill with CLEAR or COPY and a transparent color. - use the Color Correction or Transpose filter to alter the colors (remember to set the channels) Here are some that I did not see: - press ESC to see a granite pattern behind the image (to show alpha) - use the airbrush in DIN or DOUT mode (I think, I am not running NS right now so I can't check, but one of the modes lets you spray in alpha). You may want to decrease the opacity of the airbrush to soften the touch of this. Hope this helps, dk -- David Koski Running Start, Inc. OpenStep Development & Consulting dkoski@running-start.com
From: Frank Bandle <frank@mmc.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FaxModem supported on NeXTStation with Nextstep 3.3 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:23:15 +0000 Organization: More and More Communication GmbH Message-ID: <33004893.4BA8@mmc.de> References: <32FF8EE1.6744@logibec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gilles Champagne wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm planning on buying a faxmodem for my NextStation Turbo > with NeXTStep 3.3 and I'd like to know what models currently are > supported and where I could find drivers for those. > > Thanks in advance > > Gilles Champagne > gch@logibec.com > I come up with my own opinions and they are not necessarily > shared by others. We are running 6 Zyxel Modem 1496E plus on our systems. Driver is NXFAX from black & white software. Works fine - Nor problems since 4 years. Frank -------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Bandle EMail: fbandle@mmc.de More and More Communication GmbH Fon : 089 - 96276 - 0 Po.Box 1333 Fax : 089 - 96276 - 151 85731 Ismaning / Munich W3 : http://www.mmc.de -------------------------------------------------------------------- It never rains in California ! - This is not true ! MMC knows all about weather ! - This is true !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint question Message-ID: <5dliua$6tt$1@jake.esu.edu> From: katz@cs.millersv.edu (Beth Katz) Date: 9 Feb 1997 22:26:18 GMT References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania Guenther Bauer (h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at) wrote: > who is able to solve the following dilemma: > How is it possible to change one color of a picture (e.g. white) into > total transparency (100%) in a conveniant way with WetPaint? Of course > someone could delete single pixels or use the rubber tool, but is there a > way similar to the 'Transpose Filter', to just select the source color > and the destination color (in this case 100% transparency) and click on > 'Apply' and that's it? The 'Transpose Filter' didn't work for this > purpose, it can exchange colors but unfortunately not transparencies (at > least I haven't found a way to do so). I asked this same question a while back. This answer came from Steve Weintz. My apologies to him if I garble it. :: Use the Magic Wand setting in the Marquee inspector (the icon :: looks like a hand holding a wand next to a top hat). Click :: anywhere in the back-ground region. Once selected, press Delete :: or Backspace. :: :: WetPaint's default color for alpha representation, btw, is white; :: use Info -> Preferences to change the alpha representation to :: something else. You may have actually already done what you wanted :: and can't see it! Wassim M. Jabi also suggested: :: What I do is I use the paint bucket and set its mode to "CLEAR" :: This way I fill-in areas of varying color with "transparency" :: gradually. So, yes, WetPaint can do it. I was doing it to put pictures from clip art sources in a HyperSense document. Beth Katz katz@cs.millersv.edu http://cs.millersv.edu/~katz
From: awang@plains.nodak.edu (Andy Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: https browser? Date: 11 Feb 1997 01:51:26 -0600 Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network (NDHECN) Message-ID: <5dp8du$eh6@plains.nodak.edu> References: <5dndes$qen@goofy.snet.net> <5dnt7s$8e@highway.leidenuniv.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <5dnt7s$8e@highway.leidenuniv.nl>, <gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl> wrote: >svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) wrote: >>Hi- I am using OmniWeb 2.1 which does not have offer secure services. >>Is there a browser for Next that does? > >Yes, it's called OmniWeb. >Drop in the bundle >ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/www/omniweb2bundles/htt >ps.0.5a.NIHS.bs.tar.gz, which is conveniently located outside the US so you >are *im*porting ammunition, which is allowed. There may be a patent snag, >though. Sigh. for use within the US you'll need to grab a few things. first, the OmniWeb API Headers from OmniGroup's Web page. Then you'll also need to get the RSA reference library and SSLeay. (SSLeay is a free implementation of the Netscape SSL standard.) then just hack the makefiles, and possibly paths to include files, and copmile. took me about 30 minutes to figure the whole thing out, compile, and test and install everything. Not very complex. andy -- ------------------ Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT, MIME or SUN mail OK -------------- - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - - What the hell is a chicken? - http://www.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - -------------------------- awang@plains.nodak.edu -----------------------------
From: jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.lang.python Subject: Re: TCL for NeXT (HELP) Date: 11 Feb 97 06:52:15 Organization: C.R.A.S.H. The Computers, Robotics, and Artists Society of Houston Message-ID: <JASON.97Feb11065215@fisher.psych.uh.edu> References: <32EEA76D.41C67EA6@oar.net> <SHESS.97Jan29095304@howard.one.net> <1997Feb9.105307.1337@prim.demon.co.uk> <SHESS.97Feb10082217@slave.one.net> <qd914wigno.fsf@blues.cygnus.com> In-reply-to: Stephen Peters's message of 10 Feb 1997 11:51:07 -0800 Greetings! shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > Has anyone ported Tk to NeXTStep? > > I've had it running under Xnext, but no NeXTSTEP, yet. Last time I > looked (tk4.1, I think), it looked like it was just too X11-based. > Essentially, you'd have to write an emulator translating X11 calls > into NeXTSTEP calls, and I really didn't want to get involved with > that. > > Besides, I'd much rather have native "widgets". I don't want to see > 12-pixel borders on my buttons, even if the script author wanted them! > That might be a more useful port, but it would probably also take > somewhat longer than an X11 emulation. The Tk8.0 release seems to be focusing a bit more on providing the ability to use native buttons, menus, scrollbars, and font designations. I've been toying with the idea of trying to do a NeXTSTEP/OpenStep port, but it's still kind of low on my to-do list :-) That sounds very cool -- would allow for Python-based GUI development on the NeXT! Keeping in mind I haven't delved into Tk much beyond Python's tkinter, how difficult would it be to emulate Tk's worldview in native NeXTSTEP? I don't mean at the X11 call level necessarily, but just below the Tk interface, with definiting buttons, packing them, etc... Hmm... Michael B. Johnson did some excellent work with Tcl/NeXTSTEP integration at the Media Lab, I guess I should look at that again. :-) (For the curious, it also involved RenderMan-Tcl bindings, URL: http://wave.www.media.mit.edu/people/wave/ ) More later, Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7 Reactive Systems Houston, Texas 77006 jason@reactive.com (713) 942-7937 voice
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Newbie NeXTstep questions Message-ID: <E5CswJ.At@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <maxp-0702970913500001@blv-pm106-ip15.halcyon.com> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:57:55 GMT In article <maxp-0702970913500001@blv-pm106-ip15.halcyon.com> maxp@halcyon.com (Max Pinton) writes: > I've looked through the various NeXT FAQs, but still have some > questions. > > First, what is the difference between NeXTstep 3.3 and OpenStep > 4.1? On a NeXTstation, which is preferable? NS 3.3 is the most stable version and preferrable from a user perspective, IMHO. OS 4.1 is the bug fix release (I know NeXT doesn't like to hear that, but that's the way it looks to me) of the Mach implementation of OPENSTEP. The latter is preferable for developers who want to come up with sellable products. Amateurs can go with NS 3.3 as well. > I've seen some mention that 4.1 doesn't exist, but it's for sale > at Optimal Objects. Is 3.0 still usable? > Usable, yes. But I won't bother to revisit long gone bugs ;-) > Next, what's the difference between the User and Developer versions > of NeXTstep? Does the user version come with an Objective C > compiler and all the various usual UNIX stuff (grep, vi, etc)? > What would you guess? They went to many lenght to make the User version no fun for developers. > Last, is the 8/105 configuration just hopelessly inadequate, or > is it okay for doing mostly minor stuff? I'd probably just be > using it for PPP and reading e-mail from home. > Naye, thats just adequate for to get known to what you're gona miss. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 print problem Date: 11 Feb 1997 14:36:46 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5dq05u$e86@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <32FF8572.53A5@online.ru> In article <32FF8572.53A5@online.ru> "M. C. Kim" <mckim@online.ru> writes: > Greetings. > > Currently I use Mathematica 3.0 for NEXTSTEP/Mach-Intel on my pentium > PC. Everytime I try to print notebooks, The following error messages > are overlapped on the printed notebooks: I DO hope you've reported this bug to Wolfram at: support@wri.com In the past (for me), they've ALWAYS been very helpful in resolving any problems/difficulties. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: elitman@viaduct.com (Eric Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone writing apps for OS/Win? Date: 11 Feb 1997 16:27:36 GMT Organization: Viaduct Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <5dq6lo$huq@news3.digex.net> None of the archive sites have any OPENSTEP/Win apps. Is anyone writing anything for this environment? -- Eric A. Litman Viaduct Technologies, Inc. Bethesda, MD CEO http://www.viaduct.com (301) 493-0220 digital cellular (PCS) info: http://www.celltalk.com
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone writing apps for OS/Win? Date: 11 Feb 1997 16:41:59 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5dq7gn$epk@shelob.afs.com> References: <5dq6lo$huq@news3.digex.net> Eric Litman writes > None of the archive sites have any OPENSTEP/Win apps. Is anyone writing > anything for this environment? The only shipping OS/Win application is Create 4.0 from Stone Design. Remember, NeXT's user pricing for OPENSTEP was prohibitively high, so there was little point in converting commercial apps prior to the Apple announcement. But I expect the entrepreneurial spirit has been reawakened all over the NS community. 8^) -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: OmniWeb1.0 - No images? Message-ID: <E5G6LL.FJu@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:46:32 GMT References: <1997Feb11.010551.2311@juncol.juniata.edu> In comp.sys.next.software carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu wrote: > I have installed OmniWeb 1.0 on NS3.0 and it runs fine, except it does not > display images. Any ideas? - please email. OmniWeb 1.0 uses the image filtering services of the OmniImageFilters to handle all non-TIFF images. You just need to get the package of that name from the same place you got OmniWeb (or www.omnigroup.com) and install it. OmniWeb 2.0 has these services integrated into the main program and thus does not require you to install the additional package. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "I have never seen anything fill up a vacuum so fast and still suck." -- Rob Pike, commenting on The X Window System
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple Speech Recognition Message-ID: <8D1C300.09B800016E.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 12:48:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 PERSONAL TECHNOLOGY Mac News NEWS & NOTES Can we talk? Apple has made it a reality Software responds to spoken commands 02/09/97 Atlanta Journal and Constitution Maybe your spouse and children won't do what you say. But your Mac will --- if properly configured and equipped with the right software. That's right. Your Mac can close files or log onto the Internet if you tell it to do so. After years of false starts, Apple Computer has finally gotten speech recognition right. This technology, however, won't work on all Macs. It works only on Power Macs and AV Macs. So don't bother trying this with Classics, SEs, LCs or IIsis. And speech recognition technology won't work on Power Macs if they aren't configured right. Here's what you need. Start by making sure your Mac is running on system 7.5 or later. You also need at least 16 megabytes of RAM for speech recognition to work quickly and smoothly. And don't forget to hook up that little microphone that comes with most Macs ---it's your computer's ear. Next you'll need the latest version (1.5) of PlainTalk, Apple's speech recognition software. It should come with every new Mac. You can also find it on the Web at http: //www.speech.apple.com. PlainTalk has two parts: Speech recognition and text-to-speech. Make sure both parts are installed. You'll also need AppleScript, the programming software that comes with every Mac. PlainTalk uses AppleScript to remember and respond to your verbal commands. With this software in place, speech recognition is easy to configure. Open up the Speech control panel. MacUser recommends setting a specific key to hold down while talking to your Mac. Otherwise, it may confuse sounds around it as commands. ADD YOUR OWN SCRIPTS PlainTalk comes with a bunch of scripts that recognize basic commands such as those you'd use to open and close a file or window. But to make it really useful, you'll want to add your own. There are two ways to do this. Amateur programmers can write their own command scripts with AppleScript. Others can use a $49 program called EZ- Speak. It is a collection of more than 200 scripts that let you verbally control programs such as ClarisWorks, Excel, Word, PowerPoint and Navigator. A bit confused? That's OK. While easy, PlainTalk is a little tricky at first to set up. For more information, check out the March issue of MacUser. You'll find a good step-by-step guide to how to set up and use PlainTalk on Page 127. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: gard@best.com (Ross Gard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:53:00 -0800 Organization: ComputerWare Distribution: inet Message-ID: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> References: <32F416F1.6576@q-net.pair.com> <spamwall~mouser-1002971311010001@204.191.6.123> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <spamwall~mouser-1002971311010001@204.191.6.123>, spamwall~mouser@zercom.net (Martiin-Gilles Lavoie) wrote: > In article <32F416F1.6576@q-net.pair.com>, webmaster@q-net.pair.com wrote: > > > Please help, I am in desperate need of hardware and software for my NeXT > > Station. Bellow is the list of items I need... > > > > [list of desired stuff snipped} > > > > Thanks > > Tom Reminga > > E-Mail me at: > > mailto: webmaster@q-net.pair.com > > > > Q-Net Internet Services > > http://www.q-net.pair.com > > Check out Spherical Solutions at www.orb.com. They have cheap NeXT > hardware and components. > > Martin-Gilles L. I spent an afternoon with Sam Goldberger, President of Spherical, and bought a Turbo Color NeXTstation. He's a great guy to work with; I cannot imagine a nicer way to buy a computer. Sam has years of experience with NeXT equipment and clearly is in it for the love of the technology. Ross (who has no connection with Spherical except as a satisfied customer) _________________________________________________________ Ross Gard gard@best.com Systems Engineer (408) 328-1072 ComputerWare - The MacSource http://www.macsource.com/ 605 West California Avenue, Sunnyvale, CA 94086-5020
From: rmd103@psu.edu (RM DAscenzo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OStep/Intel Installing to bare drive? Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:11:07 -0500 Organization: HHDEV Computing Services Message-ID: <rmd103-1102971411070001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> I'm considering trying OpenStep on a cobbled together Intel PC. I havent found a spare CD ROM lying around yet, but do have access to an external parallel port CD ROM. I have already made a dos boot disk with the CD ROM drivers. I imagine the install process for OpenStep goes something like... -boot from floppy..mount cd rom...start installer.. What happens next? Does it format the drive with a special file structure? Does it used a UNIX based file system? Do I have to prepare the drive first with a special formatting utility? Would I need any other software..or is everything contained in OpenStep itself? Sincere thanks for any info. -Ron
From: haibach@unm.edu (Fred Haibach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: fax driver recommendations? Date: 11 Feb 1997 18:30:17 GMT Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Message-ID: <5dqdrp$2vi@lynx.unm.edu> In NeXTanswer 1594; >>>> NEXTSTEP requires an additional fax driver specifically written for your fax modem. NeXT knows of two products that support a variety of common fax modems, including ZyXEL, SupraFAXmodem, Telebit, and Prometheus. The products are these: NXFax Supplier: Black & White Software, Inc. Phone: (802) 496-8500 Fax: (802) 496-5112 E-mail: nxfax@bandw.com DFax Supplier: Alembic Systems, Inc. Phone: 1-800-452-7608 (within the U.S. only) Fax: (303) 799-1435 E-mail: robbie@alembic.com <<<< but as far as I can tell these addresses are invalid. Does anyone have recommendations for fax drivers for OpenStep 4.x? FgH... -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Frederick G. Haibach | | Chemistry Graduate Student | | University of New Mexico | | >>>>> haibach@unm.edu ++++++ http://www.unm.edu/~haibach <<<<< | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: dpkg for NEXTSTEP: Early testers ? Date: 11 Feb 1997 19:44:18 GMT Organization: InterNetNews at News.BelWue.DE (Stuttgart, Germany) Message-ID: <5dqi6i$3p1$1@news.belwue.de> I'm looking for a few volunteers to test my port of dpkg to NEXTSTEP. dpkg are the Debian package tools, a suite of programs for creating binary package files and installing and removing them on Unix systems. To Debian Linux, dpkg is what Installer.app is for NEXTSTEP applications: Installation and removal of packages can be done with a single command. But there's more to dpkg: From the users sight, dpkg maintains a database to track dependencies between packages and more: It warns you if you install a package that needs some other foundation first, updates can choose to keep configuration files, and remove now unnecessary files. From the developers sight, dpkg has support for automatically packaging distribution packages, preparing diffs against `mainstream' source distributions, therefore giving the experiences user facilities to update to newer versio ns with minimal hassle, and there's even more. While these points are essential for Linux users, I think they could also very much ease installation and maintenance of "Unix" programs for NEXTSTEP. I've therefore started to port dpkg to NEXTSTEP, and just got running a first version. It's near to untested, and definitely has some prominent bugs and problems, but maybe some brave people want to join me and test and develop this. Since it's a file maintenance tools, I have to warn anybody to use it as root. Running as normal user in a controlled manner shouldn't do any harm, but I won't warranty that yet. Nevertheless, if somebody wants to play with it, mail me, and I'll send you the stuff. Information about the Debian project is available from http://www.debian.org. Gregor Hoffleit -- | Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | | flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | | PGP Key fingerprint = 23 8F B3 38 A3 39 A6 01 5B 99 91 D6 F2 AC CD C7 |
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: 11 Feb 97 15:18:44 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Distribution: inet Message-ID: <AF263E58-143197@207.147.52.13> References: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.soft-sys.nextstep On Tue, Feb 11, 1997 1:53 PM, Ross Gard <mailto:gard@best.com> wrote: > I spent an afternoon with Sam Goldberger, President of Spherical, and > bought a Turbo Color NeXTstation. He's a great guy to work with; I cannot > imagine a nicer way to buy a computer. Sam has years of experience with > NeXT equipment and clearly is in it for the love of the technology. I've got to add my two cents worth here too. I bought a Turbo Dimension system from Sam and, other than a couple of shipping snafus which he took care of promptly, everything went well. I love the system and it is in great shape and works wonderfully. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Date: 11 Feb 1997 21:06:23 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dqn0f$3v9o@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <970205131747.4178AAFcF.magnus@darwin> <5dbn8e$mj5$1@joe.rice.edu> <970206111016.4961AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Cc: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu In <970206111016.4961AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Magnus Nordborg wrote: > Yes, I installed all the documentation on my laptop, and it sure beats > dragging the Mathematica book around (it weighs more than the laptop). > This is an extremely nice feature. There are a few places where the documentation isn't completed, e.g. mathlink for NS, but it's nonetheless much better than dragging the book around. Aside from still using the hardware-based licensing scheme, I agree that Mathematica 3.0 is a big improvement. I've been fairly impressed that a bunch of Mathlink code I wrote for MMA 2.2/ NS 3.3 worked fine on Mathematica 3.0 with OpenStep/Mach 4.1 with just a recompile. And though Wolfram was slow initially to respond to my difficulties with the hardware password on a portable computer (where the hardware configuration changes frequently), all is working well now. They issued me two different passwords for the two main configurations of the computer (docked and undocked). I was also told that it is possible to buy a "network" license for mathematica/NextStep, which doesn't involve the hardware password scheme. One rep told me that it was the same price as the "normal" version. If this is indeed the case, that seems like the way to go. Has anyone had experience with the "network" license version? -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://www.barbarian.com
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: daydream and colorspace? Date: 11 Feb 1997 14:39:03 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <5dqotn$nvn@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5dm82u$p75@eve.enteract.com> me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) wrote: >I'm using Quix's daydream on a (recently acquired) Turbo Color and >have run into problems with Photoshop. It appears that the color space >is not mapping properly - images do not display properly and the >colorspace 'picker' does not display the expected color wheel model >(for hue, saturation and value). I'm not sure exactly what is being >represented by the picker, but it doesn't look like an RGB model. > >Q: what is the latest rev of the daydream software? (the info panel >reports that this is 2.1.1) > >Q: is it compatible with Photoshop 3.x? Are you loading the color-correcting extension? I have had a multitude of problems with my Turbocolor and paint programs, the primary problem is how the machine renders transparent colors, quite frankly, it doesn't. Transparent colors show up on my system as a cyan color. Broken applications such as Fractal Painter, Sketch, and possibly other applications from Fractal Designs won't work... Photoshop is *supposed* to work, but unfortunately the cost of it (and non-returnability if opened) leaves me little incentive to give it a try. Other applications that insist on working in 16.7 million colors will also give problems. Other applications, such as Netscape (up to 3.01) worked just fine. The maddening thing is that the problem appears to be the same across these applications, hinting that one fix may correct all the color problems. An e-mail to QUIX gave the response that implied that M68k Daydream is more-or-less finished, and they plan no further developments, especially on the color-corrector :(. My many attempts at hacking this thing into working have all failed. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS rworne@primenet.com (CSUN mail is broken) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: TCL for NeXT (HELP) Message-ID: <1997Feb11.142706.47358@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch Date: 11 Feb 97 14:27:06 MET References: <32EEA76D.41C67EA6@oar.net> <SHESS.97Jan29095304@howard.one.net> <1997Feb9.105307.1337@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) wrote: > In article <SHESS.97Jan29095304@howard.one.net> shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > > > >I've posted a copy of tcl7.6 modified to compile under NeXTSTEP3.3 to > >my home page. > > Has anyone ported Tk to NeXTStep? > > Dave > If I properly recall, yes. Some company (of which I of course don't have the name anymore) once did something like TK (ObjectTK?) and sold it commercially. Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com (John B. Byrne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help Installing Software Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:15:53 -0500 Organization: Integrated Wellness Systems Message-ID: <byrnejbb-1102972215530001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> Hi again all. I got my NeXTStation to recognize an external SCSI drive. Now I want to install all the cool stuff from my NeXTStep CD-ROM that won't fit on my internal 105mb drive. How do I get the packages to install on the external drive? I remember being told to use a symbolic link so I tried the following: # ln /Quantum270mb/NextLibrary /NextLibrary # ln /Quantum270mb/NextApps /NextApps When I execute these commands I get the response: /Quantum270mb/NextLibrary is a directory /Quantum270mb/NextApps is a directory Does this mean the command worked? If so, I am confused because the packages (Literature, Developer, etc) continue to try and install to / and I don't have the space. Help GREATLY appreciated.... John Byrne NeW to NeXTWorld
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From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: 12 Feb 1997 02:45:28 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5dras8$du0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> <AF263E58-143197@207.147.52.13> "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> writes: > I've got to add my two cents worth here too. I bought a Turbo Dimension > system from Sam and, other than a couple of shipping snafus which he took > care of promptly, everything went well. I love the system and it is in > great shape and works wonderfully. I've never bought anything from Mr. Goldberger, but he's clearly knowledgeable and in it for love of the technology, based on several phone calls we've had. I'd definitely feel comfortable buying hardware from him. gdm
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:46:12 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <on0Ho4600iV8E84OF7@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <32F416F1.6576@q-net.pair.com> <spamwall~mouser-1002971311010001@204.191.6.123> <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> In-Reply-To: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 11-Feb-97 Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware by Ross Gard@best.com > I spent an afternoon with Sam Goldberger, President of Spherical, and > bought a Turbo Color NeXTstation. He's a great guy to work with; I cannot > imagine a nicer way to buy a computer. Sam has years of experience with > NeXT equipment and clearly is in it for the love of the technology. I strongly second that recommendation. Sam does his best for his customers, and he has a thorough knowledge of black hardware. If you've got a problem, he's a great guy to talk to. Often, not only can he advise you on how to repair something without having to replace it entirely, he also has the connections to provide you with replacement parts (etc) at a good price. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com (John B. Byrne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Jpeg Viewer Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:09:23 -0500 Organization: Integrated Wellness Systems Message-ID: <byrnejbb-1102972309230001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> Can someone recommend a Jpeg viewer? Thanks, John
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing from NT to NeXTprinter? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 12 Feb 1997 06:30:51 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5dro2r$fcq@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Hi, I have a PC running NT4.0 and OpenStep connected to my good old cube, and would like to use this old buddy as a print server. This works so far that I get the test page to print, as well as any one-page documents (I chose one of the Canon printers). The problem is that if I am printing any >1 page docs, only the last page (i.e., only the 1st printed page) comes out -- then, game over, NeXT stops due to a no further specified PS error. Someone got it working? Thanks, - Stan --- Nature photography: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone writing apps for OS/Win? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:07:02 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <855738422.27441.0@mozart.onestep.co.uk> References: <5dq7gn$epk@shelob.afs.com> In article <5dq7gn$epk@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) writes: > Eric Litman writes > > None of the archive sites have any OPENSTEP/Win apps. Is anyone writing > > anything for this environment? > > The only shipping OS/Win application is Create 4.0 from Stone Design. > Remember, NeXT's user pricing for OPENSTEP was prohibitively high, so > there was little point in converting commercial apps prior to the Apple > announcement. But I expect the entrepreneurial spirit has been reawakened > all over the NS community. 8^) > -- Umm, I should think that are a lot more apps shipping, though maybe Create is the only "shrinkwrap" app. Those interested in more specific areas such as Optical Mark Reading, GIS, Headhunters may like to know that our apps are running under OS/Mach and OS/Win today. I am sure there are more of us out there with OS/Win apps. --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc | UK phone: 01702 426400 | Vendors of NS/OS 351 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | MCCAs, Hardware Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | Apps, Networks Essex | | ISDN, Training SS7 2BT | Email: david@onestep.co.uk | Maintenance England | (NeXTMail/MIME ok) | and Support
From: Constantin Szallies <szallies@energotec.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: latex2html Converter for NS Date: 12 Feb 1997 13:12:13 GMT Organization: Tech Net GmbH Message-ID: <5dsfjd$1l92@ddfservb.technet.net> Does anyone have a working solution for converting latex documents to html using NS platforms. We tried a perl script and had some problems converting pictures and especially tables, which should be converted to images. Any hint is appreciated. Greetings, -- Constantin Szallies, Energotec GmbH szallies@energotec.de 49211-9144018
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Many cuts above - but how to keep the low life happy? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Message-ID: <1997Feb10.185419.1849@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <5dl8nd$jtv@usc.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:54:19 GMT In <5dl8nd$jtv@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote: > > I just tried out Netscape and, by comparison, OmniWeb's features, design > and capabilities are far superior. In fact, they are so far above > Netscape 3.01 Gold or whatever it's called, that it makes it a bit > difficult to design web pages. In fact, most things about NextStep make Well, I have mixed feelings about Omniweb, besides the speed problem: * There are bugs in 2.5b2, sometimes a POST operation does not work. There are ObjC-error messages in Omniwebs console. * You cannot edit the URL after a page is shown. You first have to drag from the URL field. * When ftp-ing a tar.gz file, Omniweb tries to open it after that, which is very annoying. And: if you quit Omniweb after a ftp, the file is gone. * When ftp-ing a file omniweb seems to keep this file in memory thus swapping a lot after a few MB. * You have to right-click to see the target of a reference. * No animated gifs. Some people regard this as an advantage :-) * No Java, no JavaScript. This becomes more and more important nowadays and is not a lack of a small feature. For example I cannot have internet banking with Omniweb. Sure , Omniweb looks nicer than Netscape. But: Isn't this a feature of Nextstep vs. X11 ? All Next-Apps look nicer :-)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Message-ID: <1997Feb7.104857.453@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: isaac@pobox.com Organization: Disorganization References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970204031036.19194A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:48:57 GMT In <Pine.LNX.3.95.970204031036.19194A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Isaac wrote: > Try running Netscape on a 25 or 33 Mhz 486 some time. Just a note: My news ticker (www.mercury.com) gave me an information, that a company made a web browser for ancient 8086 machines. It's running under DOS in 640K. While I haven't seen the speed (and am not very interested in it either :-) I found it interesting that it is indeed possible to do this. This is a commercial product and I guess the speed must be acceptable somehow. I still doubt that only 500MHZ Pentium Pros can run a web browser efficiently .....
From: "Ben" <benjamin@p3.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ppp NeXT 3.0... Date: 12 Feb 1997 17:03:53 GMT Organization: Surf Network Message-ID: <01bc190f$4aaa2640$5f0c43ce@ben.p3.net> Does anyone know of any ppp app for NeXTSTEP 3.0? Any help would be greatly appreceiated. Thanks, Benjamin Folk Jr. Surf Network, Inc. benjamin@p3.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu> Subject: Re: TCL for NeXT (HELP) In-Reply-To: Your message of "11 Feb 1997 14:27:06 +0700." <1997Feb11.142706.47358@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> Message-ID: <199702121643.LAA03436@slate.cs.rochester.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger) Cc: comp.sys.next.misc, comp.sys.next.software, comp.sys.next.programmer Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:43:30 -0500 frank@ifi.unibas.ch wrote: >dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) wrote: [...] >> Has anyone ported Tk to NeXTStep? [...] >If I properly recall, yes. Some company (of which I of course don't >have the name anymore) once did something like TK (ObjectTK?) and >sold it commercially. [...] I believe that you're thinking of Objective-TCL, from Pedja Bogdanovic at TipTop Software ( http://www.tiptop.com/ ). The package does not include Tk. [Follow-ups to comp.sys.next.software only.] --Eric --- Eric K. Ringger mailto:ringger@cs.rochester.edu Dept. of Computer Science Office: +1-716-275-0922; Lab: +1-716-275-1083 University of Rochester Fax: +1-716-461-2018 Rochester NY 14627-0226 http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/ringger/ ||||| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |||||
From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Many cuts above - but how to keep the low life happy? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Date: 12 Feb 1997 19:08:20 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5dt4f4$m08$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> Thomas Funke (thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM) wrote: : * There are bugs in 2.5b2, sometimes a POST operation does not work. There : are ObjC-error messages in Omniwebs console. I've seen this, but it tends to be the fault of a receiving script 90% of the time. : * You cannot edit the URL after a page is shown. You first have to drag from : the URL field. I never understood why OW had the two edit boxes. I guess one is an OWMutableURL? ;) : * When ftp-ing a tar.gz file, Omniweb tries to open it after that, which is : very annoying. And: if you quit Omniweb after a ftp, the file is gone. Hold down command and double click, and it'll open in Workspace instead. Very cool. : * When ftp-ing a file omniweb seems to keep this file in memory thus swapping : a lot after a few MB. I haven't noticed this, but I also usually do the command click on larger files. : * You have to right-click to see the target of a reference. Yeah, I'd like fly-over status someplace. : * No Java, no JavaScript. This becomes more and more important nowadays and : is not a lack of a small feature. For example I cannot have internet banking : with Omniweb. JavaScript isn't a published standard. I'd like to seem some kind of Java support, but not just in OmniWeb. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help Installing Software Date: 12 Feb 1997 19:11:02 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5dt4k6$m08$2@darla.visi.com> References: <byrnejbb-1102972215530001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> John B. Byrne (byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : # ln /Quantum270mb/NextLibrary /NextLibrary : # ln /Quantum270mb/NextApps /NextApps ln -s /Quantum270mb/NextApps /NextApps ... ln means "link". -s means "symbolic". without the -s, it tries to make a hard link, which can't be done on directories. man ln for details. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Jpeg Viewer Date: 12 Feb 1997 19:06:59 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5dt4cj$j6$4@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <byrnejbb-1102972309230001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> Cc: byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com In <byrnejbb-1102972309230001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> John B. Byrne wrote: > Can someone recommend a Jpeg viewer? > > Thanks, > > John > OmniImage.app from omni. http://www.omnigroup.com It does viewing/conversion for Tiff, Gif, Jpeg, Bmp, and SEVERAL others. It's a great utility, and its FREE. (Yet another reason to buy the folx at Omni a beer if you ever meet them in a pub). -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: "Giraudo1" <giraudos@avon.net.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep on Intel..requirements?? Date: 12 Feb 1997 13:18:25 GMT Organization: iiNet Technologies Message-ID: <01bc18e8$83845b60$281f3bcb@giraudos.avon.net.au> References: <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> Cache-Post-Path: oak.avon.net.au!unknown@ppp09.avon.net.au I have installed OS 4.0 on a number of machines with EIDE hardware. I had problems until I placed the CD ROM second in line to the hard disk off the same EIDE output. After this it installed like a baby. I found it easier to install than Win95 and a lot easier that out UNIX based OS's. If you have problems email me, I will help if I can. simon g. giraudos@avon.net.au RM DAscenzo <rmd103@psu.edu> wrote in article <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu>... > Can anyone provide pointers to informatin about what could be expected > when setting up OpenStep Intel. Are certain configurations not supported? > Are drivers available? Are the potential conflicts that are common in the > WIntel world also found with OpenStep? Essentially how easy or difficult > is this and can it be done with cobbled together hardware? > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Sincere thanks, > -Ron >
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Firewalling & IP Masquerading in NeXTStep Date: 12 Feb 1997 18:45:46 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5dt34q$p3a@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <5dj3is$aoa@join.news.pipex.net> In article <5dj3is$aoa@join.news.pipex.net> jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) writes: > Hi folks. Does NeXTStep or a a kernel extension support firewalling > functions, in particular, IP masquerading? Let me guess: you have a service provider that only gives you 1 IP address and you have a subnet at home with a couple of machines? If that's the case, I have a few alternative suggestions: 1. Use IPRoute (http://www.mischler.com). This is a routing program for a PC which supports dynamic address translation. You'll need a separate 386-class machine with a network card. Disadvantages: Only one of your home machines can play NetQuake at a time :-( 2. I've ported the BSD /dev/tun tunnel interface to NEXTSTEP, as well as the ipip daemon which lets you encapsulate your home IP traffic in an IP-in-IP tunnel. This basically exposes your home subnet to the outside world. However, you need a similar setup at the other end of the tunnel (your office NeXT?) to do the decapsulation. You also need a bona-fide subnet address and and routing from your office NeXT, but if you know your IS people well, that might be manageable. I haven't tested it very thoroughly, or cleaned it up or released it, but if there's a demand for it, my arm can be twisted. (My housemate wouldn't mind being able to play NetQuake too :-) -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: "David Silviera" <david.silviera@asciient.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TESTERS NEEDED Helpful Internet program Date: 12 Feb 1997 19:29:14 GMT Organization: Ascii Entertainment Message-ID: <01bc191b$25e7f060$f11814cf@jane.crowley.asciient.com> We are ASCII Entertainment Software. We are evaluating a product called "The Internet Ninja" which is currently being distributed in Japan. This software allows users to save images from the Internet with no download time. To Save images, you simply click and drag the image you want on to the Internet Ninja program. The Internet Ninja will take the image straight out of your computer's cache memory and put a thumbnail image into your "book". I am in need of evaluation testers to help with consumer feedback. If you would like to participate in evaluating this product, please fill out this testing application : http://www.asciient.com/test_form.html Or, if you would like more information please visit our WWW site and browse around. http://wwwasciient.com/ninja.html Thank you for your time. David Silviera Creative Assistant David.Silviera@asciient.com
From: kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Many cuts above - but how to keep the low life happy? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Date: 12 Feb 1997 18:44:25 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5dt329$1av@gaea.titan.org> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> <1997Feb10.185419.1849@gamelan.shnet.org> Thomas Funke (thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM) wrote: : Well, I have mixed feelings about Omniweb, besides the speed problem: Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully I can help address some of these issues. : * There are bugs in 2.5b2, sometimes a POST operation does not work. There : are ObjC-error messages in Omniwebs console. Well, that IS why it is marked as a beta release. 2.1.5 is latest non-beta release. Unfortunately, while the bug in question was fixed the day after the release of beta 2, we still haven't released beta 3 because it also includes Kanji support, which isn't quite stable enough for a beta release yet. (However, it might be ready later this week.) : * You cannot edit the URL after a page is shown. You first have to : drag from the URL field. You can type a relative URL in the top field (in exactly the form you'd use on the page), which (for me, at least) eliminates most of the need to edit a URL. However, we are looking at ways of improving this interface (in fact, we were just talking about it last night), since this is one of the most common complaints about our UI. : * When ftp-ing a tar.gz file, Omniweb tries to open it after that, : which is very annoying. And: if you quit Omniweb after a ftp, the : file is gone. OmniWeb doesn't distinguish between what protocol was used to retrieve a file (after all, that was one of the design goals of the web: to be protocol independent, so operations work the same whether you use http or ftp or gopher or a local file). To download a file (ftp or http or whatever), command-click on it rather than just clicking. This will save the file in your download directory, and select that file in the Workspace (unopened). And it won't remove the file later (unlike with files being presented for viewing by normal clicking). : * When ftp-ing a file omniweb seems to keep this file in memory thus : swapping a lot after a few MB. If you download a file (by command-clicking on it), OmniWeb doesn't do this. Again, OmniWeb doesn't distinguish between ftp and http. If you just click on an ftp file, it has to read it into memory to decide whether it looks like something it can present directly in the browser, or will have to save off to the Workspace to present. : * You have to right-click to see the target of a reference. True. We'll probably add a preference for letting you see the target by just holding your mouse over a link. (Personally, I find that really annoyingly flashy as I move my mouse about.) : * No animated gifs. Some people regard this as an advantage :-) Mostly written, but not yet completed because we considered performance and Java to be higher priority, and given our limited resources we have to prioritize our development. OmniWeb was written in about 2 man-years--but despite this relatively small development cost (compared to comparable browsers) has yet to turn a profit, due to our market size. : * No Java, no JavaScript. This becomes more and more important : nowadays and is not a lack of a small feature. Ah yes, Java. We've actually wrote a lot of this last summer (and were able to run simple applets like TumblingDuke, TicTacToe, and the graphics test), but we've been unable to dedicate resources to completing it given the size of our current market. (We are still working on it in our meager spare time, and looking for corporate sponsors to enable us to dedicate resources to it.) Rhapsody's market may change all that, but on the other hand with Rhapsody we get direct competition with Netscape and Internet Explorer. JavaScript is another matter. While we did some work on it about a year ago, it unfortunately bears no resemblance (other than the name) to Java: it has no complete specification, it has no coherent design, and it's really hard to duplicate its functionality in another browser since much of it is based on letting script writers manipulate Netscape's innards (which look rather different from ours, meaning we have to start emulating a lot of those innards to let those scripts operate). I'm rather disappointed that Sun let Netscape name that language "JavaScript", since really it's a "NetscapeScript" language. : For example I cannot have internet banking with Omniweb. I've done internet banking with OmniWeb at several banks (using just an HTTPS extension). : Sure , Omniweb looks nicer than Netscape. But: Isn't this a feature of : Nextstep vs. X11 ? All Next-Apps look nicer :-) Umm, no, actually. Notably, Netscape looks nicer than the original WorldWideWeb.app. -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OStep/Intel Installing to bare drive? Date: 12 Feb 1997 10:31:39 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dt2ab$hi@mpaque.mpaque> References: <rmd103-1102971411070001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> In article <rmd103-1102971411070001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> rmd103@psu.edu (RM DAscenzo) writes: > I'm considering trying OpenStep on a cobbled together Intel PC. I havent > found a spare CD ROM lying around yet, but do have access to an external > parallel port CD ROM. I have already made a dos boot disk with the CD ROM > drivers. > > I imagine the install process for OpenStep goes something like... > > -boot from floppy..mount cd rom...start installer.. Something like that. You'll need the set of NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP for Intel floppies distributed with the NeXTSTEP CD-ROM. These include a boot floppy with NeXT's booter and kernel, and one or more disks of device drivers (NeXTSTEP 3.2 and later). The drivers are NeXT specific. DOS drivers won't work. > What happens next? Does it format the drive with a special file structure? > Does it used a UNIX based file system? Do I have to prepare the drive > first with a special formatting utility? You would boot with the NeXT boot floppy, and select a language to use for the installation (English, French, Spanish, etc...). Once the booter and kernel image are loaded, you'll be prompted to put in the device driver floppy. The software will search the floppy for relevent disk device drivers, and prompt you to select the appropriate device drivers for your CD-ROM and hard disk (for example, "EIDE", "Adaptec 154x SCSI", etc.) Once the drivers are loaded from floppy, the OS will start up and give you an ASCII menu of installation options. You can chose to format the whole disk for NeXTSTEP, put NeXTSTEP on an existing partition, repartition the disk, or quit the installation. The installation process will take care of the details of formatting the selected disk or partition with a Unix Fast FileSystem (FFS), and will perform a minimal installation. Once the minimal installation is done, you'll be prompted to remove the floppies and reboot the machine. The machine will normally restart with NeXTSTEP, and you'll use the NeXT GUI to complete informing the OS of your hardware settings and preferences (the Configure app is run automatically) and selecting installation options (for example, extra languages, and optional software packages such as on-line documentation, Websters Dictionary, etc.) > Would I need any other software..or is everything contained in OpenStep itself? It should all be there in the CD package. If you need additional device drivers, take a look at NeXTAnswers at http://www.next.com/. There are drivers there, along with disk image files and a DOS utility you can use to build NEXTSTEP device driver floppies from the disk image files. -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK
From: Dion Dock <dion_dock@mentorg.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apple Plans Ad War Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:13:23 -0800 Organization: Mentor Graphics Message-ID: <33024083.29A8@mentorg.com> References: <8D18282.09B800014E.uuout@moondog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Said a headline on one ad touting multimedia abilities of a Mcintosh: 10 years and people still can't spell Macintosh. -dion
From: Brian Ward <bward@stevens-tech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Java support Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:36:02 -0500 Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology Message-ID: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any java support for the NeXT machines?
From: Dion Dock <dion_dock@mentorg.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: is Daydream alive? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:10:32 -0800 Organization: Mentor Graphics Message-ID: <33026A08.64B1@mentorg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is the Daydream box still being sold? thanks, -dion
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Many cuts above - but how to keep the low life happy? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Date: 12 Feb 97 17:29:18 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF27AE72-1C69DE@207.147.62.170> References: <1997Feb10.185419.1849@gamelan.shnet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Feb 10, 1997 1:54 PM, Thomas Funke <mailto:thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM> wrote: > * When ftp-ing a tar.gz file, Omniweb tries to open it after that, which is > very annoying. And: if you quit Omniweb after a ftp, the file is gone. I noticed this as well. Here's what worked for me. I was DLing a long file, moved over to the couch and fell asleep. I woke up 6 hours later and looked at the Cube. The PPP connection had gone down and the file was saved in /private/tmp rather than in /tmp/omniweb. I have no idea how this happened but it didn't disappear on me. The answer is obviously, only ftp when you are very sleepy. > > * When ftp-ing a file omniweb seems to keep this file in memory thus > swapping > a lot after a few MB. Yep, and if youdon't have a lot of open space you can get error messages. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Many cuts above - OmniWeb Date: 13 Feb 1997 00:13:01 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5dtmad$itt@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <AF27AE72-1C69DE@207.147.62.170> In article <AF27AE72-1C69DE@207.147.62.170> "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> writes: > On Mon, Feb 10, 1997 1:54 PM, Thomas Funke > <mailto:thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM> wrote: > > * When ftp-ing a tar.gz file, Omniweb tries to open it after that, which > is > > very annoying. And: if you quit Omniweb after a ftp, the file is gone. CMD(Alt)-Click the download link, and it will download only. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Steve Haynes <shaynes@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FaxModem supported on NeXTStation with Nextstep 3.3 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:45:10 -0500 Organization: Widomaker Public Access Internet (804)221-8070 Message-ID: <33028E46.3AFC@ibm.net> References: <32FF8EE1.6744@logibec.com> <33004893.4BA8@mmc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank Bandle wrote: > > Gilles Champagne wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm planning on buying a faxmodem for my NextStation Turbo > > with NeXTStep 3.3 and I'd like to know what models currently are > > supported and where I could find drivers for those. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Gilles Champagne > > gch@logibec.com > > I come up with my own opinions and they are not necessarily > > shared by others. > > We are running 6 Zyxel Modem 1496E plus on our systems. > Driver is NXFAX from black & white software. > > Works fine - Nor problems since 4 years. > > Frank > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Frank Bandle EMail: fbandle@mmc.de > More and More Communication GmbH Fon : 089 - 96276 - 0 > Po.Box 1333 Fax : 089 - 96276 - 151 > 85731 Ismaning / Munich W3 : http://www.mmc.de > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, I must agree NXFax is an extrordinarily reliable piece of software. We use our black stations as fax machines all day every day and have yet to have a problem with the product. Steve Haynes EQB Industries.
From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Jpeg Viewer Date: 13 Feb 1997 09:20:58 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5dumdq$9qu@supernews.login.net> References: <byrnejbb-1102972309230001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <byrnejbb-1102972309230001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> On 02/11/97, John B. Byrne wrote: > Can someone recommend a Jpeg viewer? > > Thanks, > > John > --------------------------------------------------------- These are available from ftp sites. FastView.app (A high speed JPEG viewer by David Koshi.) ImageViewer.app (by Lennart Lövstrand.) ToyViewer.app (by Takeshi Ogihara) Zoom.app (An application for scalling images by Sven Lehmann.) Best of all, they are FREE shareware and they work wonderfully on NEXTSTEP. Cheers, -André ------------------------------------------------------------
From: anch@logiball.de (Andreas Christiani) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Arbitary precision arithmetic? Date: 10 Feb 1997 10:02:24 GMT Organization: Knipp Medien und Kommunikation, Dortmund, Germany Message-ID: <5dmrng$5i5$1@news.knipp.de> References: <1997Feb9.120321.1665@prim.demon.co.uk> Dave Griffiths <dave@prim.demon.co.uk> wrote: >Hi, does anyone know of a simple maths library that will let you do >arbitary precision integer arithmetic from C/Obj-C on NeXTStep? I found >something called "pari" but it has a Sun3 assembler file that doesn't >compile. > >Thanks, > >Dave > Take a look at GNU MP (abbreviated gmp). A.C. --- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LogiBall gGmbH * Innovationszentrum Herne * Westring 303 * 44629 Herne Andreas Christiani * christiani@logiball.de * http://www.logiball.de Tel.: 02323 / 925 577 * Fax : 02323 / 925 551 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: willi@marvin.aaa-plus.com (Wilhelm Pitzeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Which X server? Date: 13 Feb 1997 12:32:26 GMT Organization: EUnet EDV DienstleistungsgesmbH, Wien Message-ID: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> Cc: cubx@intuisys.com,co-Xist_info@pencom.com,doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu,leuker@POOL.informatik.rwth-aachen.de,bngover@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca,jklein@freon.artificial.com,crath@bnr.ca,rdieter@math.unl.edu,neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM Maybe this has been asked many times before: Which is the best X server for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? (I'm using OS4.1/Mach/Intel) There seem to be two commercial products (co-Xist and CubXWindow) as well as two shareware packages (Xnext and MouseX). What are their specific pros and cons? Please email any experiences to me, I will post a summary of all replies. Willi -- *************** Dipl.-Ing. Wilhelm Pitzeier **************** ***** AAA+ Software Forschungs- und Entwicklungs-GmbH ****** *************** A-1010 Rotenturmstrasse 22 ***************** ******** E-Mail: willi@aaa-plus.com (NEXT/MIME/ISO) ******** * ISDN Voice: (+43 1) 5336665/32 **** Fax: (+43 1) 5336890 * * Private: A-1060 Stiegengasse 9/14 * Tel. (+43 1) 5813472 * ************************************************************
From: Andrew Y Ng <ayn@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Samba compilation failed... Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:56:33 -0500 Organization: Freshman, CIT Undeclared, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <In0nal200YUx06Okk0@andrew.cmu.edu> I am trying to setup Samba on my NeXTstation running NeXTstep 3.3, I edited the Makefile and specified the "FLAGSM = -DNEXT3_0" flag, then I did a `make`, I got tons of complains about server.c.... It compiled perfectly on my NetBSD box tho. Anybody knows what has to be done in order to get it to compile on NeXT? /ayn -- Andrew Y Ng <ayn@CMU.EDU> | Carnegie Mellon University http://andrew.Ngbert.org | ECE major // 4-yr BS/MS campus ph: 412/862-2836 | voice mail: 412/268-6700 x30027 | talk: finger ayn@andrew.Ngbert.org * NGBERT.ORG! * | for online status http://www.Ngbert.org | finger ayn@CMU.EDU for more info... --------------------------X------------------------------------- NetBSD NeXT FreeBSD Linux Be Solaris !windoze
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which X server? Date: 13 Feb 1997 16:30:41 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5dvfjh$k89$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> Wilhelm Pitzeier <willi@marvin.aaa-plus.com> wrote: : Which is the best X server for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? : (I'm using OS4.1/Mach/Intel) : There seem to be two commercial products (co-Xist and CubXWindow) as well : as two shareware packages (Xnext and MouseX). IMHO, CubX is the best. It's unbelievably fast. If you want developer and motif, though, you'll pay for it. Unfortunately, it doesn't support the ND board. *sigh* -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: POP3 email question Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:41:09 GMT Organization: Internet QuickLink, Corp. (212) 307-1669 Message-ID: <5dvg9e$55l@news.quicklink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can I get a POP3 email client, like Eudora, to get mail from my NeXTstation? I was searching for the answers but had no luck finding the answer. Ant help would be nice. Thank you for you time. joel@quicklink.com
From: Andrew Y Ng <ayn@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: POP3 email question Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:38:06 -0500 Organization: Freshman, CIT Undeclared, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kn0rii200YUq0W1EY0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5dvg9e$55l@news.quicklink.com> In-Reply-To: <5dvg9e$55l@news.quicklink.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Feb-97 POP3 email question Joel Kelmenson@quicklink (222*) > How can I get a POP3 email client, like Eudora, to get mail from my > NeXTstation? couldn't u compile PINE on ur NeXT and run the popd that comes with it? I never tried... /ayn -- Andrew Y Ng <ayn@CMU.EDU> | Carnegie Mellon University http://andrew.Ngbert.org | ECE major // 4-yr BS/MS campus ph: 412/862-2836 | voice mail: 412/268-6700 x30027 | talk: finger ayn@andrew.Ngbert.org * NGBERT.ORG! * | for online status http://www.Ngbert.org | finger ayn@CMU.EDU for more info... --------------------------X------------------------------------- NetBSD NeXT FreeBSD Linux Be Solaris !windoze
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Good GUI ftp client? Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:57:48 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> Is there a decent GUI ftp client available? I've seen a couple at Peanuts but haven't downloaded pending recommendations from the group... Thanks. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ The Language Schools herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: POP3 email question Date: 13 Feb 1997 18:15:06 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5dvlna$mcn@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> References: <5dvg9e$55l@news.quicklink.com> Cc: joel@quicklink.com In <5dvg9e$55l@news.quicklink.com> Joel Kelmenson wrote: > How can I get a POP3 email client, like Eudora, to get mail from my > NeXTstation? > > I was searching for the answers but had no luck finding the answer. > > Ant help would be nice. > > Thank you for you time. I'm not totally sure, but I believe that PopOver.app has the ability to be a pop server as well as a client. -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: cmoore@cyberport.com (Cmoore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: 13 Feb 1997 14:25:29 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5dv88p$cl7$1@macaw.cyberport.com> References: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> <AF263E58-143197@207.147.52.13> <5dras8$du0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII How does someone contact Mr Goldberger ? In article <5dras8$du0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu says... > >"Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> writes: >> I've got to add my two cents worth here too. I bought a Turbo Dimension >> system from Sam and, other than a couple of shipping snafus which he took >> care of promptly, everything went well. I love the system and it is in >> great shape and works wonderfully. > >I've never bought anything from Mr. Goldberger, but he's clearly knowledgeable >and in it for love of the technology, based on several phone calls we've >had. I'd definitely feel comfortable buying hardware from him. > >gdm
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good GUI ftp client? Date: 13 Feb 1997 22:13:02 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5e03le$s5q@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> References: <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Cc: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu In <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> David Herren wrote: > Is there a decent GUI ftp client available? I've seen a couple at > Peanuts but haven't downloaded pending recommendations from the group... I've never tried Yftp, but GatorFTP works fine for me... -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: jmosher@think.com (Jessica Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Sam is Awesome (Was: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: 13 Feb 1997 19:41:03 GMT Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Bedford MA, USA Sender: jmosher@think.com Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5dvqof$821@bone.think.com> References: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> <AF263E58-143197@207.147.52.13> <5dras8$du0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I also must agree: I've purchased hardware from Sam as well and have always had great experiences, both locally in the Bay Area and when I've had stuff shipped after leaving there. He's got some great NeXT stories! smg@orb.com -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Thinking Machines Corporation Systems Support Engineer c/o American Express
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: latex2html Converter for NS Date: 13 Feb 1997 08:46:44 GMT Organization: "private site" Message-ID: <5dukdk$mo@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> References: <5dsfjd$1l92@ddfservb.technet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (FinalNews for NeXTstep; Version 0.04 / Feb 10, 1997) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Constantin Szallies wrote in <5dsfjd$1l92@ddfservb.technet.net> on 1997-02-12 14:12:13 +0100: > Does anyone have a working solution for converting latex documents > to html using NS platforms. We tried a perl script and had some > problems converting pictures and especially tables, which should > be converted to images. Try latex2html translator from Nikos Drakos. ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/support/latex2html or something like that. --- _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb ** 72119 Ammerbuch/Germany ** Tel. +7073 - 5118 e-mail: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail and Mime welcome PGP-Key is available (please request it, so mail exchange will be safe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: Good GUI ftp client? Message-ID: <E5K8wu.4rB@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:26:54 GMT References: <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> In comp.sys.next.software David Herren wrote: > Is there a decent GUI ftp client available? I've seen a couple at > Peanuts but haven't downloaded pending recommendations from the group... The latest version of Yftp.app is pretty good. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine."
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apple Plans Ad War Date: 12 Feb 97 20:57:23 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF27DF36-295B4@207.147.52.36> References: <33024083.29A8@mentorg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, Feb 12, 1997 5:13 PM, Dion Dock <mailto:dion_dock@mentorg.com> wrote: > 10 years and people still can't spell Macintosh. 13 years and people still don't remember January 24, 1984. "On January 24, Apple Computer will introduce Macintosh and you'll see why 1984 won't be like '1984'." Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good GUI ftp client? Date: 14 Feb 1997 01:24:50 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5e0et2$i78@news3.digex.net> References: <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) wrote: > Is there a decent GUI ftp client available? I've seen a couple > at Peanuts but haven't downloaded pending recommendations from > the group... I think the best one is Netsurfer's... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Omniweb: why the caching to VM? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Date: 13 Feb 1997 22:15:04 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5e03p8$i10@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <SHESS.97Feb7104201@howard.one.net> I can put up with the rendering speed of OmniWeb. What I'd like to know is why doesn't OmniWeb cache to disk instead of to virtual memory? Every time I unhide OmniWeb, my poor system has to page through many megabytes of images, etc. My swapfile has often grown to fill my root partition and crash my system. This is a bit excessive: javanica[21]% ps auxwww | grep Omni croehrig 312 0.2 0.0 244M 0K ? SW 1:42 OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb ... ^^^^^ -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
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From: "Lynn_Holland" <lynn_holland@stratus.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Question on NS 3.3 User Date: 14 Feb 1997 07:09:23 GMT Organization: S2 Systems, Inc. - International Professional Services Message-ID: <01bc1a45$c1a346a0$682273c6@s2-nl-lynnh> Does the release of NS 3.3 user for Intel also support Next Black Hardware on the same media? Thanks. Lynn Holland
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9702131725.AA10240@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 18:25:34 +0100 Subject: Rhapsody interaction with NeXT- and Openstep (or: Will Rhapsody (AppleStep) have NetInfo)? Hi there folks, there are tons of question which arise about the new "AppleStep" (Rhapsody), but the most immanent one I have is: Will Steve build NeXT inside of Apple? Just kidding..... 8-) (all of us know he actually does so! (Whoooooow!!!! 8-))))) What I really need to know is: ** question version 0.8 (alpha) ** Can I use a Rhapsody 500Mhz AppleMac as Fileserver for NeXTSTEP / OpenStep clients of all colors (black NeXThardware, Sun Sparc 20s, Intel Boxes w/ Openstep)? or to put it the other way around: ** question version 0.9 (beta) ** Can a NeXT/NEXTSTEP/OpenStep system based on the above mentioned hardware serve a Rhapsody client?? But maybe the best way to ask this question is: ** final coding v1.0 (shipping now!) ** Will "AppleStep" (Rhapsody) feature NetInfo??? Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with AppleSTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news ---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mirko@next.procom.it> Message-ID: <199702131800.TAA00361@next.procom.it> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Mirko Viviani <mirko@procom.it> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 19:00:52 +0100 Subject: MSQL info... Ciao... Could someone tell me how to set up a MSQL server ? Thanks. --- Bye, Mirko <mirko@procom.it> (NeXTmail, MIME)
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rhapsody on Intel clarification Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:24:03 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg32905.thr-1e9c77.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg32905.thr-1e9c77.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> This was in recently posted in the Evangelist: The following clarification has been blurted by: The Digital Guy <<evagelist@apple.com> After chatting with various sources in an attempt to avoid making things even muddier, I'm going to explain why there's so much confusion surrounding the "NeXT" Mac OS, and why Rhapsody isn't going to run on Intel chips...but the Mac OS is. That first paragraph pretty much illustrates why there's so much confusion. You see, "Rhapsody" isn't just Mac OS "8" (or whatever it winds up being called), it's the new OS consisting of the OpenStep API's with a new, advanced Mac interface running on top of the Mach microkernal (referred to as the "yellow" box) AND a component to insure backward compatibility with system 7.x applications (the "blue" box). Thus the code name "Rhapsody" actually refers to the bundling of two seperate technologies, and not just the new Mac OS. As confirmed by Avadis Tevanian and Jim Gable, (see <<http://www.macweek.com/mw_1106/nw_conference.html>), the yellow box WILL run on intel chips. Essentially, poor souls who made the mistake of buying a Pentium based system will be able to run the SAME OS as a PowerPC Macintosh. The only difference is that the blue box won't be there, so they won't be able to run 7.x Mac applications. The decision makes sense when you realize that making 7.x apps run on Intel would be a major engineering effort for a group of people unlikely to have an older software investment to protect. Intel users WILL be able to run Mac applications ported to the new OS and recompiled to run on the Intel based Mac OS. Another way of looking at it from the Intel NeXT OS side of things is that they're going to upgrade their NeXT OS. Their existing investment in OpenStep programming and applications is preserved. To sum up: - The Mac OS WILL run on Intel chips. - Applications written for the new Mac OS will run on Intel based systems with a simple recompile. - 7.x applications won't run on the Mac OS for Intel chips. - 7.x applications WILL run under the new Mac OS for Power PC chips, code named Rhapsody. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ The Language Schools herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
From: maxp@halcyon.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.0 question Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:08:45 -0800 Organization: Maxgraphic Message-ID: <maxp-1402970908450001@blv-pm103-ip8.halcyon.com> I have a NeXTstation 8/105 with 3.0 installed, and was attempting to copy (via floppy) an app that I had FTPd on my Mac. The archive was too big to fit on a floppy, so I decompressed it and copied it over file-by-file. I ended up with a directory called Opener.app. I changed the Execute flag, which seemed to turn it into a bona fide application, but it wouldn't launch. Did I do something wrong, or does this app (Opener 3.3) not work with 3.0? BTW, WTB: NEXTSTEP 3.3 User or Developer (black) ... -- Max Pinton, max@maxgraphic.com Maxgraphic Digital Portfolio, http://www.maxgraphic.com
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rhapsody User Interface Date: 14 Feb 1997 13:32:18 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm240-02.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5e1ph2$cnr$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hi, has anyone heard any info if there will be an option in Rhapsody to choose a GUI closer to NeXTstep rather than to Mac UI? You know something like the look of Solaris Openstep or so... No offense, I just don't like the Mac feel and look when compared to NeXTstep's. While it might seem not important to some people, it actually might (most likely will) affect my decision whether to switch to Rhapsody. Apple or NeXT, could you comment if you caught this question? Thanks, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: bob_oconnor@csgi.com (Bob O'Connor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What's the latest Neuron Fax software? Date: 14 Feb 1997 20:46:31 GMT Organization: Just BOB Macintosh and NeXT Consulting Message-ID: <5e2iv7$l5s$1@news1.dn.net> Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. I have a Neuron modem, version 2.0 of their software and Black hardware. I can succesfully connect to a brother Fax machine but not an HP. Is there updated software that would work? The Neuron is just a repackaged Zyxel. Is there fax software for the Zyxel which might work? Thaks in advance. ----------------------------------------- Bob O'Connor bob_oconnor@csgi.com
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Question on NS 3.3 User Date: 14 Feb 1997 17:26:54 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <5e278u$5pi$1@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <01bc1a45$c1a346a0$682273c6@s2-nl-lynnh> Cc: lynn_holland@stratus.com In <01bc1a45$c1a346a0$682273c6@s2-nl-lynnh> "Lynn_Holland" wrote: % Does the release of NS 3.3 user for Intel also support Next Black Hardware % on the same media? Thanks. % % Lynn Holland % Yes ! ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/
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From: gard@best.com (Ross Gard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:00:17 -0800 Organization: ComputerWare Distribution: inet Message-ID: <gard-1402971000170001@NNTP.best.com> References: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> <AF263E58-143197@207.147.52.13> <5dras8$du0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <5dv88p$cl7$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5dv88p$cl7$1@macaw.cyberport.com>, cmoore@cyberport.com (Cmoore) wrote: > How does someone contact Mr Goldberger ? > > > In article <5dras8$du0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu says... > > > >"Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> writes: > >> I've got to add my two cents worth here too. I bought a Turbo Dimension > >> system from Sam and, other than a couple of shipping snafus which he took > >> care of promptly, everything went well. I love the system and it is in > >> great shape and works wonderfully. > > > >I've never bought anything from Mr. Goldberger, but he's clearly > knowledgeable > >and in it for love of the technology, based on several phone calls we've > >had. I'd definitely feel comfortable buying hardware from him. > > > >gdm Sam Goldberger Spherical Solutions 47 Myrtle Avenue Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-383-2919 voice 415-381-9556 fax smg@orb.com http://www.orb.com/ For any of you Silicon Valley types, it makes for a lovely drive. You would definitely need to call ahead and make an appointment, however. Ross _________________________________________________________ Ross Gard gard@best.com Systems Engineer (408) 328-1072 ComputerWare - The MacSource http://www.macsource.com/ 605 West California Avenue, Sunnyvale, CA 94086-5020
From: Brandon Cue <bcue@uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Question on NS 3.3 User Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 23:54:38 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois Message-ID: <33054F9E.3DD3@uiuc.edu> References: <01bc1a45$c1a346a0$682273c6@s2-nl-lynnh> <5e278u$5pi$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry this has nothing to do with the subject, am having trouble with my new reader. I have NS 3.3 User for Intel and need a good terminal application to dial into my isp sot that I can download some NeXT stuff. Does anyone have a suggestion? thanks... Brandon Cue bcue@uiuc.edu
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: nightmare of pixelization (Many cuts above - but how to keep...) Date: 14 Feb 1997 21:14:25 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <5e2kjh$qj9@peng.ping.at> Matthew N. Reichman wrote: > I have still to figure out a sure-fire way of handling graphics (I've got > TIFFany, GifOmatic, Giftools, Pixel Magician, and more) and I find it a > pain in the ass converting the beautiful images those programs allow me > to make into something even close under Netscape/MSIE (not to mention all > the other browsers which I have yet to see). > It's a nightmare of pixelization, weird color mapping, and gamma viruses! You might want to take a look at LatinByrd: http://www.mlink.net/~tralala/stefan/LatinByrd.BetaIV.NIS.tar.gz (502997 bytes) It's still in beta but is reported to be very stable, so I finally dare to semi-officially announce it. Converting TIFF/EPS images to GIF/JPEG isn't LatinByrd's main raison d'etre, but I think it does quite a good job on that as well. LatinByrd displays your TIFF or EPS image in synchronized GIF/JPEG views, and you can change options like Gamma, Netscape colormap, Floyd-Steinberg error distribution, and JPEG quality on the fly. You can view your images in front of a selectable background wallpaper. And LatinByrd can do one thing that - as far as I know - no other tool is capable of: rendering partial transparency over a background color of your choice - including Gamma and all! Note: beware that LatinByrd will be a commercial product. - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which X server? Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:57:47 +0000 Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970214224346.568A-100000@pollux> References: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> <5dvfjh$k89$1@darla.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5dvfjh$k89$1@darla.visi.com> On 13 Feb 1997, David Young wrote: > Wilhelm Pitzeier <willi@marvin.aaa-plus.com> wrote: > : Which is the best X server for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? > : (I'm using OS4.1/Mach/Intel) > > : There seem to be two commercial products (co-Xist and CubXWindow) as well > : as two shareware packages (Xnext and MouseX). > > IMHO, CubX is the best. It's unbelievably fast. > If you want developer and motif, though, you'll pay for it. > > Unfortunately, it doesn't support the ND board. *sigh* > CubX developer is not compatible with Openstep Developer, and unbeleivably is not the right word describing CubX, its speed is ok but not unbelievably. I think the development package is not worth the additional money since there are no X development tools and the socalled online description consists only of poorly integrated man pages in a bookshelf. If you compile apps on your own they grow five times the size the same application in a linux environment. The development kit makes you feel as if you were ripped and the other included apps are not worth mentioning. --- Konstanin Wiesel Email:kwiesel@jura.uni-bonn.de
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb: why the caching to VM? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Date: 14 Feb 1997 22:36:12 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5e2pcs$3fd@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <SHESS.97Feb7104201@howard.one.net> <5e03p8$i10@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> Cc: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca In <5e03p8$i10@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> Chris Roehrig wrote: > > I can put up with the rendering speed of OmniWeb. What I'd like to know is > why doesn't OmniWeb cache to disk instead of to virtual memory? Every time I > unhide OmniWeb, my poor system has to page through many megabytes of images, > etc. My swapfile has often grown to fill my root partition and crash my > system. This is a bit excessive: > > javanica[21]% ps auxwww | grep Omni > croehrig 312 0.2 0.0 244M 0K ? SW 1:42 OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb ... > ^^^^^ > > Installing a local squid cache and set all hold times in the OmniWeb preferences to 0 seems to help a bit (but not that much :(). Maybe Omni should put a disk based cache into OW right away. Only fetch the needed stuff and free (in memory) the rest immediately. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.dcom.net-analysis,comp.dcom.net-management,comp.os.netware.connectivity,comp.os.netware.misc,comp.os.netware.security,comp.ai.neural-nets,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.networks.noctools.bugs,comp.networks.noctools.d,comp.sys.northstar Subject: cmsg cancel <23.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Date: 14 Feb 1997 21:53:53 GMT Control: cancel <23.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <cancel.23.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Sender: cruel@xs4all.nl (Bart) Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702142035.PAA02255@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 97 15:34:53 -0500 Subject: Mail.app: adding Private Group Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary I just found this out, maybe y'all knew it already. Dontcha hate adding members to a Private Group in Mail.app? Add a name. Click add. Add a name, Click add. Add a name, (you get the idea). Of course you could open the ~/.NeXT/.mailalias file and add them by hand that way, but you had to make sure that Mail.app wasn't running or they might be overwritten when it quit..... Well, after 5 years of using Mail.app, it dawned on me: put all the names in at once, separated by commas, and click on "add" just once. DUH It works fine. At first all the names are in one long row, but when you restart Mail.app they are all one-per-column (cool!). To think of the number of times done this would have been useful to know.... TjL
From: "Mark A. Doucet" <madoucet@dominion-tech.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Windows NT output to NeXT Printers Date: 15 Feb 1997 02:28:11 GMT Organization: Dominion Communications, LLC Message-ID: <01bc1aad$85ee90c0$3bc960ce@blessing> I have a TCP/IP lan connection to my NeXT box and I would like to print from a WindowsNT machine to my NeXT laser and color printer. Does anyone know how this can be done? Thanks Mark A. Doucet madoucet@dominion-tech.com
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep PPP Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 19:25:50 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Message-ID: <3304BC3E.1BC4@us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just got OpenStep 4.1 Mach and see that it has pppd and chat. I need to set this up and would like to know if there is guide I can use. Thanks, Jason
From: "Steve Ramsour" <gsramsour@ns.aecnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: wtb: Adobe Illustrator for Nextstep Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 18:34:37 +0000 Organization: SignDesign Message-ID: <gsramsour-1402971834370001@accs-as16-dp11.snfc.grid.net> would like to purchase Illustrator for Nexstep (motorola) -Stve Ramsour gsramsour@macconnect.com
From: Peter Truskier <truskier@star-graphics.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: POP3 email question Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 21:35:18 -0800 Organization: STAR Graphic Arts Co., Inc. Message-ID: <33054B16.7832@star-graphics.com> References: <5dvg9e$55l@news.quicklink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Joel Kelmenson <joel@quicklink.com> Joel Kelmenson wrote: > > How can I get a POP3 email client, like Eudora, to get mail from my > NeXTstation? SNIP I've been using NSPopper for about 6 or 7 months on a NeXTStation Color, and it has not failed once. Iregularly use Eudora, Claris E-mailer, Netscape (Mac), Netscape (Windows), and FirstClass through a Nasta gateway as clients, all without any real problems. You can find it at: http://info-sys.home.vix.com/people/lennart/Software.html About half way down the page are links to the binary (quad fat),source, etc. Good luck, Peter Truskier STAR Graphic Arts Co., Inc. Brisbane, CA 94005
From: spdwell@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RE. Info on NeXTIME multimedia framework Date: 15 Feb 1997 02:56:12 GMT Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <spdwell-1402971855320001@adnline240101.adnc.com> I would like to know what this software is all about. Please let me know. Thanks in advance...
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FaxModem supported on NeXTStation with Nextstep 3.3 Date: 15 Feb 1997 05:25:26 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet <info@cais.com> Message-ID: <5e3hc6$mpk@news2.cais.com> References: <32FF8EE1.6744@logibec.com> In-Reply-To: <32FF8EE1.6744@logibec.com> One of the best faxmodems on the market is the Diamond SupraSonic 336V+. It works great with B&W NXFax. -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to connect via ISDN on Intel hardware? Date: 15 Feb 1997 18:34:16 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5e4vj8$7qg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> <1996Dec7.230912.24020@seer.demon.co.uk> <32FAEA2A.3CB8@gcomm.com> <5dhrvq$dbr@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) wrote: > I don't think there are drivers for any ISDN _cards_ available. The only > solution is an external TA. But ISDN cards such as the ZyXEL cards that don't need special drivers but work with the AT command set just like an external TA on a serial port will work of course. Bye Uli -- ______________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine ______________________________________________________________________
From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config v 3.37 Date: 15 Feb 1997 20:05:13 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5e54tp$lm2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I believe I need a newer version of the Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config than the one on the 3.3 installation disks. If anyone hase v 3.37 or later, could you please NeXTMail me a copy? Thank you. Randy Jackson -- Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o __o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\, _`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> | (*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\, FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu http://www.geography.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jackson/
From: Brandon Cue <bcue@uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: modem terminal application Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:25:27 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois Message-ID: <3306A857.58A2@uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering if there is a good modem app to dial into to my isp so that I can download ppp and other goodies and get my box connected to the internet. Any suggestions???? thanks Brandon Cue bcue@uiuc.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <413853649874@digifix.com> Date: 16 Feb 1997 02:23:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <22496856059808@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3D? Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 12:21:55 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <33067D48.7505@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5ct27t$9ie@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jason Wagner <jason@primenet.com> Jason Wagner wrote: > > I've been seeing references to the "Fatted Calf" CD with "Renderman" > files.... then I read in teh FAQ that NEXTSTEP comes with a "3D toolkit." > Can anyone tell me more about the graphics and animation type software > that comes with NEXTSTEP? How well do NeXT machines run this software?? Check out following web site and solidThingking: http://www.gestel.com younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Java support Message-ID: <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: bward@stevens-tech.edu Organization: Disorganization References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:36:01 GMT In <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> Brian Ward wrote: > Is there any java support for the NeXT machines? > I have used guavac on black Nexts successfully. Still some bugs in the compiler but it is improving rapidly. I think kaffe - the java VM - should run on Next either. Still no AWT in sight so you have to rely on another machine to run your applets. : * You cannot edit the URL after a page is shown. You first have to > : drag from the URL field. > > You can type a relative URL in the top field (in exactly the form > you'd use on the page), which (for me, at least) eliminates most of > the need to edit a URL. Yes I noticed that. But I dislike this feature: As I'm lazy I use to type a URL without that http:// staff. Omniweb seems to recognise server names which start with www (resp. ftp), but in other cases it assumes a relative URL and attaches it to the prviously viewed page. Also if a link is not correct (server not found, typing error), you often want to edit the URL. In my view, abandon these two URL lines and make just one, like it is done in Netscape. > To download a file (ftp or http or whatever), command-click on it > rather than just clicking. This will save the file in your download > directory, and select that file in the Workspace (unopened). And it > won't remove the file later (unlike with files being presented for > viewing by normal clicking). Thanks for that hint. Still I would regard it an improvement if .tar.gz (and similar) files are not opened the common way. > JavaScript is another matter. While we did some work on it about a > year ago, it unfortunately bears no resemblance (other than the name) > to Java: it has no complete specification, it has no coherent design, > and it's really hard to duplicate its functionality in another browser > since much of it is based on letting script writers manipulate > Netscape's innards (which look rather different from ours, meaning we > have to start emulating a lot of those innards to let those scripts > operate). I'm rather disappointed that Sun let Netscape name that > language "JavaScript", since really it's a "NetscapeScript" language. Thats true. I could live without JavaScript, but the lack of Java is a problem. > > : For example I cannot have internet banking with Omniweb. > > I've done internet banking with OmniWeb at several banks (using just > an HTTPS extension). Here in Germany there are several banks which use Java for security reasons. So you have to have a Java-capable browser to use internet banking. Anyway - Java has become that important recently that it would be really great to see a Java-capable Omniweb. I hope the responsible people at Omnigroup don't underestimate the importance of this.
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970216.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970209.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970202.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 16 Feb 1997 05:00:00 -0700 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone writing apps for OS/Win? Date: 16 Feb 1997 16:33:04 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <5e7cs0$6a1$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5dq6lo$huq@news3.digex.net> elitman@viaduct.com (Eric Litman) wrote: > None of the archive sites have any OPENSTEP/Win apps. Is anyone writing > anything for this environment? > > -- > Eric A. Litman Viaduct Technologies, Inc. Bethesda, MD > CEO http://www.viaduct.com (301) 493-0220 > digital cellular (PCS) info: http://www.celltalk.com Yes, we're finishing up our port of the Visual Simulation Environment from NEXTSTEP 3.3 to OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. Then we'll be porting to OPENSTEP for NT which we've already installed and compiled some in-house frameworks for. So we should be shipping very shortly. See www.orcacomputer.com for more information. -- Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck --------------------------------------------------------------------- chuck_esterbrook@orcacomputer.com / vo 540 231-3475 / fx 540 231-3480 Orca Computer, Inc. / 1800 Kraft Dr. Suite 111 / Blacksburg, VA 24060
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which X server? Date: 16 Feb 1997 17:28:53 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5e7g4l$r62$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> <5dvfjh$k89$1@darla.visi.com> <Pine.NXT.3.95.970214224346.568A-100000@pollux> Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> wrote: : CubX developer is not compatible with Openstep Developer, and unbeleivably : is not the right word describing CubX, its speed is ok but not : unbelievably. I think the development package is not worth the additional : money since there are no X development tools and the socalled online : description consists only of poorly integrated man pages in a bookshelf. : If you compile apps on your own they grow five times the size the same : application in a linux environment. The development kit makes you feel as : if you were ripped and the other included apps are not worth mentioning. If by "not compatible with OpenStep Developer" you mean that X doesn't support PB/IB, well, duh. I'm not going to argue with you about speed since I guess this is a relative issue. It's quite fast on my TurboColor, but I guess YMMV depending on RAM and such. (FWIW, it blows the doors off XNeXT and co-Xist..) The lack of "X development tools" kinda has to do with X, not this particular implementation of it. I've been able to successfully compile almost every X application I've come across, including an Apple IIgs emulator (man, that was cool to see on the NeXT..). It ships with your standard X suite; I know today Linux ships with like, xabuse and other such fluff, but when it comes down to it, xterm, twm, and the X server are the only things you really need. *shrug* -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: tcpdump 3.0 - won't recognize en0 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 22:21:01 GMT Organization: UUNet PIPEX server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNet PIPEX) Message-ID: <5e819k$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Keyword: tcpdump, ethernet Hi folks. I've successfully compiled tcpdump 3.0 including the Berkley Packet Filter that comes with it. When I try to run it, I get the following: en0: No such device or address In gdb, its get to a line in pcap-bpf.c with the following: ioctl(fd,BIOCSETIF, (caddr_t) &ifr); This call is failing for some reason but I don't know why. The ifr structure has a valid ifr_name = 'en0'. Any ideas? Oh, I have also created devices in /dev for bpf0 and bpf1 under number 32. I just did a mknod, don't know if anything else is requried there ... note that I have installed the bpf LKS that comes with PPP, should I not load that? Cheers, Jeff Richmond
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: tcpdump 3.0 - won't recognize en0 Date: 16 Feb 1997 23:03:49 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5e83ol$bi7@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5e819k$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Cc: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk In <5e819k$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Jeff Richmond wrote: > Hi folks. I've successfully compiled tcpdump 3.0 including the Berkley Packet > Filter that comes with it. When I try to run it, I get the following: > > en0: No such device or address > > In gdb, its get to a line in pcap-bpf.c with the following: > > ioctl(fd,BIOCSETIF, (caddr_t) &ifr); > > This call is failing for some reason but I don't know why. The ifr structure > has a valid ifr_name = 'en0'. Any ideas? Oh, I have also created devices in > /dev for bpf0 and bpf1 under number 32. I just did a mknod, don't know if > anything else is requried there ... note that I have installed the bpf LKS > that comes with PPP, should I not load that? > > Cheers, > > Jeff Richmond > See the NS BPF package on http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html as it was adapted/rewritten by Satoshi Adachi (or the original site in Japan at ftp://ftp.aa.ap.titech.ac.jp/pub/adachi/ ). A vanilla BPF will not work on NS. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer : downloading all newsgroups? Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 23:11:34 GMT Organization: UUNet PIPEX server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNet PIPEX) Message-ID: <5e848g$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Hi. Is there anyway to stop NewsGrazer from loading all newsgroups down from the host nntp machine every time it runs? I am subscribed to half a dozen newsgroups and don't want to waste the time it takes for NewsGrazer to build a list of 10,000 newsgroups. Cheers, Jeff Richmond
From: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: EOF - Oracle Support Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 23:31:23 GMT Organization: UUNet PIPEX server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNet PIPEX) Message-ID: <5e85dj$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Hi. I've been told that I need EOF to support connections to Oracle on another server. Is this true? The DBKit seems to imply that one can use SQL*Net 2 style connection descriptors ... alas, I don't know where to put the tnsnames.ora file that define these connections. How can DBKit establish this connection without SQL*Net? Has NeXT licensed code from Oracle and built their own SQL*Net infrastructure? Cheers, Jeff Richmond
From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 16 Feb 1997 20:08:00 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) writes: >In <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> Brian Ward wrote: >> Is there any java support for the NeXT machines? >> >I have used guavac on black Nexts successfully. Still some bugs in the >compiler but it is improving rapidly. >I think kaffe - the java VM - should run on Next either. Still no AWT in >sight so you have to rely on another machine to run your applets. The master source for kaffe 0.8 (latest as far as I know) doesn't compile cleanly on NS3.3p1. (I seem to recall that there are some socket funcs called with size_t * that want int *, and I don't remember whether sizeof(size_t) and sizeof(int) are the same.) But there is a package port on ftp.next.peak.org somewhere which has some awt support built-in (I was trying to avoid awt entirely for a while, which is why I tried the source). Also, I don't think kaffe can easily be compiled as a MAB to do the JIT stuff. But I'd like to be proven wrong. -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 17 Feb 1997 03:16:54 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> Font <font@MCS.COM> wrote: : The master source for kaffe 0.8 (latest as far as I know) doesn't : compile cleanly on NS3.3p1. (I seem to recall that there are some : socket funcs called with size_t * that want int *, and I don't : remember whether sizeof(size_t) and sizeof(int) are the same.) But : there is a package port on ftp.next.peak.org somewhere which has some : awt support built-in (I was trying to avoid awt entirely for a while, : which is why I tried the source). Also, I don't think kaffe can : easily be compiled as a MAB to do the JIT stuff. But I'd like to be : proven wrong. Actually, there are no size_t issues in 0.8. There is an issue of needing to include libc.h, but other than that, it'll compile fine. The AWT stuff is going to be icky because it's all X based. X sux. Given that there's no m68k JIT yet, setting up the executable to do JIT in a fat binary would be tricky. You have to "build" in the VM engine, so it couldn't be done without a lot of source modification. I've been playing with wrapping Kaffe in ObjC and a .app since version 0.5, and it's becoming increasingly more awkward as the sources define their own Object, Class and Method structures which class with NS's. Doh. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: rmunoz@eos.ncsu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: f2c or g77 for OpenStep 4.1 Date: 17 Feb 1997 04:55:42 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University Message-ID: <5e8oce$guf@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> Hello all, I am trying to get a fortran compiler for my new OpenStep 4.1 for Intel system. The new release of g77 +gcc in the archives fail to render usable code in my OS4.1. I have also tried to compile the "f2c" sources in the archive sites but they fail to compile in my system. Has anybody got any of them to work?. Would you be so kind as to share it with me or tell me what I need to do to make it work?. I am in desperate need of a fortran compiler (in fact, the main reason why I moved from my beloved NeXTStation Turbo to my new Intel system is the expected increase in speed.... ) Thank you very much for your help. Rafa -------------------------- R. Munoz-Carpena, Ph.D. e-mail:rmunozc@eos.ncsu.edu Visiting Scholar fax:(919)515-6732 BAE Dept. North Carolina State University Raleigh, NC 27695-7625
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Talk between Linux and NeXT impossible? Date: 17 Feb 1997 16:48:05 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Hello, I'm currently in a mixed network with Linux, and NS machines. However I'm not able to use the 'talk' command between those machines. It seems as if there are different used protocols. Did anybody else experience this and is there a talkd replacement or something else? What to do? Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de)
From: David Grindrod <grindrod@mailhost.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: f2c or g77 for OpenStep 4.1 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:41:47 +0100 Organization: EMBL Distribution: world Message-ID: <33087C3A.167E@mailhost.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> References: <5e8oce$guf@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: rmunozc@eos.ncsu.edu It is possible to compile g77 for OPENSTEP. You have to make some changes to reflect the fact that sys_s is a shared library. I do not have the changes with me as I did this at home, but I will try and repost later today or tomorrow with the changes I made to the nexststep.h. It gives many warning messages when linking but the executables are fine. I have compiled a number of molecular biology programs with g77 under NeXTSTEP. For those interested I may later this week try and get the pgcc/pg77 the pentium optimised compiler to run under OPENSTEP. This should give binaries which are optimised for pentum machines. This is available for linux and solaris x86 altready I have heard and I will take a look and see how much work it is to get it to compiled for OPENSTEP. Dave -- David grindrod, NMR System Manager, EMBL Heidelberg. Email: mailto:grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE HTML Home Page: http://www.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE/grindrod/
From: "Lib Informática Ltda" <Lib.Info@empresa.com.br> Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.anu-news Subject: Brazilian Representative looks for good products to local market Date: 17 Feb 1997 08:29:56 GMT Organization: Lib Informática Ltda Message-ID: <01bc1ca8$718ed200$0100007f@lib-info-01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 CVRoZSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcHV0ZXIgbWFya2V0IGlzIGEgbGFyZ2Ugb25lIHdoZXJlIGFsbW9z dCBhbGwgcHJvZHVjdHMgY2FuIGJlIHNvbGQhICAgRm9yIG1hbnkgeWVhcnMsIGZvcmVpZ24gY29t cGFuaWVzIGluIEJyYXppbCBjb3VsZCBub3Qgc2VsbCB0aGVpciBwcm9kdWN0cyBhbmQgc2Vydmlj ZXMgd2hlcmUgYSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcGFueSB3b3Jrcy4gICBUaGlzIGJyb3VnaHQgcmFwaWQg ZGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQgZWFybHksIGJ1dCBzdGFnbmF0aW9uIGFmdGVyd2FyZHMhICAgV29yc3QsIGEg aGlnaGVyIHByaWNlISEhICAgTm93LCB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIGNvbXB1dGVyIG1hcmtldCBpcyBv cGVuIHRvIGFsbCBmb3JlaWduIGluZHVzdHJ5LiAgIEFuZCBwcmljZSBpcyBub3QgYSBwcm9ibGVt Li4uDQoNCglTbywgd2h5IGRvZXNuJ3QgeW91ciBjb21wYW55IHRyeT8NCg0KCVdlIHJlcHJlc2Vu dCBzZXJ2aWNlcywgc29mdHdhcmUsIGFuZCBoYXJkd2FyZSBmcm9tIGZvcmVpZ24gY29tcGFuaWVz IGRvaW5nIGJ1c2luZXNzIGluIEJyYXppbC4gICBXZSBhcmUgbG9va2luZyBmb3IgY29tcGFuaWVz IHdoaWNoIGludGVuZCB0byBlbnRlciB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIG1hcmtldCB3aXRoIHRoZWlyIHBy b2R1Y3RzL3NlcnZpY2VzLg0KDQoJQW55d2F5LCBpZiB0aGlzIHByb3Bvc2FsIGludGVyZXN0cyB5 b3UsIHBsZWFzZSBlLW1haWwgdXMgLSBMaWIuSW5mb0BlbXByZXNhLmNvbS5iciAtIHdpdGggYW4g b3V0bGluZSBvZiB5b3VyIHByb2R1Y3RzIGFuZC9vciBzZXJ2aWNlcyB0byBsZXQgdXMgZXZhbHVh dGUgaWYgdGhleSBjb3VsZCBiZSBzb2xkIGRvd24gaGVyZSBpbiBCcmF6aWwuDQoNCg0KCVRoYW5r IHlvdSBmb3IgeW91ciBhdHRlbnRpb24uDQoNClAuUy46IFBlcnNvbmFsbHksIEkgZG8gbWFuYWdl IGEgMiwwMDAgbWVtYmVyIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdCBvbiBXaW5kb3dzICc5NSBzb2Z0d2FyZSB3aGVy ZSBJIHdyaXRlIHRoZW0gYWJvdXQgdGhlIG5ldyBwcm9kdWN0cyBhbmQgcmVsZWFzZXMuICAgQW5k IGFwcHJlY2lhdGUgaWYgeW91IGUtbWFpbCBtZSBhYm91dCBuZXcgc29mdHdhcmVzIGFuZCByZWxl YXNlcy4NCg0KDQoNCkNhcmxvcyBCb3JnYXJ0aA0KTGliIEluZm9ybeF0aWNhIEx0ZGEuDQpSaW8g ZGUgSmFuZWlybyAgLSAgQnJhc2ls
From: waiming@cs.ust.hk (Chan Wai Ming) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: anyone who is using Dial On Demand with GateKeeper Date: 17 Feb 1997 17:58:57 GMT Organization: The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Message-ID: <5ea691$gfj@ustsu10.ust.hk> References: <199701100300.TAA24917@PEAK.ORG> Timothy J Luoma (luomat@peak.org) wrote: : I'm trying to get DOD working, but I've had no luck. : Anyone feel like giving advice? : TjL Hi, I'm also having trouble with DoD in GateKeeper 2.1 b5. My problem is that it is always triggered to have a PPP connection even if I don't use any network prog. Any hints for me to setup Dod ??? Thanks a lot ! yours -- After working with DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux, SunOS, NT, 95 .... / / / I find myself like NEXTSTEP most. \ \ \ ------ It is tea, not Java :) A Happy NS user \____/> waiming@cs.ust.hk
From: David Grindrod <grindrod@mailhost.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: f2c or g77 for OpenStep 4.1 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:54:29 +0100 Organization: EMBL Distribution: world Message-ID: <33089B54.2781@mailhost.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> References: <5e8oce$guf@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------446B794B15FB" To: rmunozc@eos.ncsu.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------446B794B15FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have attached the nextstep.h file for compiling gcc and g77 under OPENSTEP. Overwrite the file in the config directory of the gcc distribution. Type ./configure --with-gnu-as make bootstrap make install Should see you through. You have to install g77 correctly and apply the necessary patches for the gcc version you are using. I have compiled this with gcc 2.7.2.1 and gcc 0.5.19 and it works fine. When linking with g77 (and gcc) there are a lot of warning messages but the executable created seems to be okay. The warning messages are created from the next ld command. The attached nextstep.h is only a temporary fix and hopefully a full OPENSTEP port will be done. If people cannot read the attachment let me know and I will put it on an ftp site. Alternatively to overwriting the nextstep.h just put the stuff relating to LIBGCC (from my changed nextstep.h) into config.h after doing the ./configure --with-gnu-as. I hope this helps. The g77 compiler created is really useful and hopefully eventually will be included into OPENSTEP as it would be nice to create multiple binary versions. Dave -- David grindrod, NMR System Manager, EMBL Heidelberg. Email: mailto:grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE HTML Home Page: http://www.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE/grindrod/ --------------446B794B15FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="nextstep.h" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="nextstep.h" /* nextstep.h -- operating system specific defines to be used when targeting GCC for NeXTSTEP. Copyright (C) 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This file is part of GNU CC. GNU CC is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any later version. GNU CC is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with GNU CC; see the file COPYING. If not, write to the Free Software Foundation, 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. */ /* Use new NeXT include file search path. In a cross compiler with NeXT as target, don't expect the host to use Next's directory scheme. */ #ifndef CROSS_COMPILE #undef INCLUDE_DEFAULTS #define INCLUDE_DEFAULTS \ { \ { GPLUSPLUS_INCLUDE_DIR, 1, 1 }, \ { LOCAL_INCLUDE_DIR, 0, 1 }, \ { TOOL_INCLUDE_DIR, 0, 1 }, \ { GCC_INCLUDE_DIR, 0, 0 }, \ /* These are for fixincludes-fixed ansi/bsd headers \ which wouldn't be found otherwise. \ (The use of string catenation here is OK since \ NeXT's native compiler is derived from GCC.) */ \ { GCC_INCLUDE_DIR "/ansi", 0, 0 }, \ { GCC_INCLUDE_DIR "/bsd", 0, 0 }, \ { "/NextDeveloper/Headers", 0, 0 }, \ { "/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi", 0, 0 }, \ { "/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd", 0, 0 }, \ { "/LocalDeveloper/Headers", 0, 0 }, \ { "/LocalDeveloper/Headers/ansi", 0, 0 }, \ { "/LocalDeveloper/Headers/bsd", 0, 0 }, \ { "/NextDeveloper/2.0CompatibleHeaders", 0, 0 }, \ { STANDARD_INCLUDE_DIR, 0, 0 }, \ { "/usr/include/bsd", 0, 0 }, \ { 0, 0, 0 } \ } #endif /* CROSS_COMPILE */ #undef EXTRA_FORMAT_FUNCTIONS #define EXTRA_FORMAT_FUNCTIONS \ "NXPrintf", FALSE, 2, FALSE, \ "NXScanf", TRUE, 2, FALSE, \ "NXVPrintf", FALSE, 2, TRUE, \ "NXVScanf", TRUE, 2, TRUE, \ "DPSPrintf", FALSE, 2, FALSE, \ "bsd_sprintf", FALSE, 2, FALSE, \ "bsd_vsprintf", FALSE, 2, TRUE, /* Make -fnext-runtime the default. */ #define NEXT_OBJC_RUNTIME /* We have atexit. */ #define HAVE_ATEXIT /* Enable recent gcc to compile under the old gcc in Next release 1.0. */ #define __inline inline /* wchar_t is unsigned short */ #undef WCHAR_TYPE #define WCHAR_TYPE "short unsigned int" #undef WCHAR_TYPE_SIZE #define WCHAR_TYPE_SIZE (BITS_PER_WORD / 2) /* Don't default to pcc-struct-return, because gcc is the only compiler, and we want to retain compatibility with older gcc versions. */ #undef DEFAULT_PCC_STRUCT_RETURN #define DEFAULT_PCC_STRUCT_RETURN 0 /* These compiler options take n arguments. */ #undef WORD_SWITCH_TAKES_ARG #define WORD_SWITCH_TAKES_ARG(STR) \ (DEFAULT_WORD_SWITCH_TAKES_ARG (STR) ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "segalign") ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "seg1addr") ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "segaddr") ? 2 : \ !strcmp (STR, "sectobjectsymbols") ? 2 : \ !strcmp (STR, "segprot") ? 3 : \ !strcmp (STR, "sectcreate") ? 3 : \ !strcmp (STR, "sectalign") ? 3 : \ !strcmp (STR, "segcreate") ? 3 : \ !strcmp (STR, "sectorder") ? 3 : \ !strcmp (STR, "siff-mask") ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "siff-filter") ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "siff-warning") ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "arch") ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "pagezero_size") ? 1 : \ 0) #undef WORD_SWITCH #define WORD_SWITCH(STR) \ (WORD_SWITCH_TAKES_ARG (STR) \ || !strcmp (STR, "bsd") \ || !strcmp (STR, "object") \ || !strcmp (STR, "ObjC") \ || !strcmp (STR, "all_load")) /* Machine dependent ccp options. */ #undef CPP_SPEC #define CPP_SPEC "%{!traditional: -D__STDC__} \ %{posixstrict:-D_POSIX_SOURCE} \ %{!posixstrict:%{bsd:-D__STRICT_BSD__} \ %{posix:-D_POSIX_SOURCE} \ %{!ansi:-D_NEXT_SOURCE}} \ %{MD:-MD %M} %{MMD:-MMD %M}" /* Machine dependent ld options. */ #undef LINK_SPEC #define LINK_SPEC "%{Z} %{M} \ %{execute*} %{preload*} %{fvmlib*} \ %{segalign*} %{seg1addr*} %{segaddr*} %{segprot*} \ %{pagezero_size*} \ %{seglinkedit*} %{noseglinkedit*} \ %{sectcreate*} %{sectalign*} %{sectobjectsymbols}\ %{segcreate*} %{Mach*} %{whyload} %{w} \ %{sectorder*} %{whatsloaded} %{ObjC} %{all_load} %{object}" /* Machine dependent libraries. */ #undef LIBGCC_SPEC #ifndef LIBGCC_SPEC #define LIBGCC_SPEC "" #endif #undef LIB_SPEC #ifndef LIB_SPEC #define LIB_SPEC "%{!shared:-lgcc} %{!shared:-lsys_s}" #endif #undef STARTFILE_SPEC #ifndef STARTFILE_SPEC /* config.h can define STARTFILE_SPEC to override the default crt0 files. */ #define STARTFILE_SPEC \ "-dynamic %{!shared:-lcrt1.o}" #endif /* Why not? */ #undef DOLLARS_IN_IDENTIFIERS #define DOLLARS_IN_IDENTIFIERS 2 /* Allow #sscs (but don't do anything). */ #define SCCS_DIRECTIVE /* We use Dbx symbol format. */ #undef SDB_DEBUGGING_INFO #undef XCOFF_DEBUGGING_INFO #define DBX_DEBUGGING_INFO /* This saves a fair amount of space. */ #undef DBX_CONTIN_LENGTH #define DBX_CONTIN_LENGTH 0 /* These screw up NeXT's gdb at the moment, so don't use them. */ #undef DBX_OUTPUT_MAIN_SOURCE_DIRECTORY #define DBX_OUTPUT_MAIN_SOURCE_DIRECTORY(FILE, FILENAME) /* These come from bsd386.h, but are specific to sequent, so make sure they don't bite us. */ #undef DBX_NO_XREFS #undef DBX_CONTIN_LENGTH /* gdb needs a null N_SO at the end of each file for scattered loading. */ #undef DBX_OUTPUT_MAIN_SOURCE_FILE_END #define DBX_OUTPUT_MAIN_SOURCE_FILE_END(FILE, FILENAME) \ fprintf (FILE, \ "\t.text\n\t.stabs \"%s\",%d,0,0,Letext\nLetext:\n", \ "" , N_SO) /* Don't use .gcc_compiled symbols to communicate with GDB; They interfere with numerically sorted symbol lists. */ #undef ASM_IDENTIFY_GCC #define ASM_IDENTIFY_GCC(asm_out_file) #undef INIT_SECTION_ASM_OP #define INIT_SECTION_ASM_OP #undef INVOKE__main #undef ASM_OUTPUT_CONSTRUCTOR #define ASM_OUTPUT_CONSTRUCTOR(FILE,NAME) \ do { constructor_section (); \ ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGN (FILE, 1); \ fprintf (FILE, "\t.long "); \ assemble_name (FILE, NAME); \ fprintf (FILE, "\n"); \ fprintf (FILE, ".reference .constructors_used\n"); \ } while (0) #undef ASM_OUTPUT_DESTRUCTOR #define ASM_OUTPUT_DESTRUCTOR(FILE,NAME) \ do { destructor_section (); \ ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGN (FILE, 1); \ fprintf (FILE, "\t.long "); \ assemble_name (FILE, NAME); \ fprintf (FILE, "\n"); \ fprintf (FILE, ".reference .destructors_used\n"); \ } while (0) /* Don't output a .file directive. That is only used by the assembler for error reporting. */ #undef ASM_FILE_START #define ASM_FILE_START(FILE) #undef ASM_FILE_END #define ASM_FILE_END(FILE) \ do { \ extern char *language_string; \ if (strcmp (language_string, "GNU C++") == 0) \ { \ constructor_section (); \ destructor_section (); \ ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGN (FILE, 1); \ } \ } while (0) /* How to parse #pragma's */ #undef HANDLE_PRAGMA #define HANDLE_PRAGMA(finput) handle_pragma (finput, &get_directive_line) /* Give methods pretty symbol names on NeXT. */ #undef OBJC_GEN_METHOD_LABEL #define OBJC_GEN_METHOD_LABEL(BUF,IS_INST,CLASS_NAME,CAT_NAME,SEL_NAME,NUM) \ do { if (CAT_NAME) \ sprintf (BUF, "%c[%s(%s) %s]", (IS_INST) ? '-' : '+', \ (CLASS_NAME), (CAT_NAME), (SEL_NAME)); \ else \ sprintf (BUF, "%c[%s %s]", (IS_INST) ? '-' : '+', \ (CLASS_NAME), (SEL_NAME)); \ } while (0) /* Wrap new method names in quotes so the assembler doesn't gag. Make Objective-C internal symbols local. */ #undef ASM_OUTPUT_LABELREF #define ASM_OUTPUT_LABELREF(FILE,NAME) \ do { if (NAME[0] == '+' || NAME[0] == '-') fprintf (FILE, "\"%s\"", NAME); \ else if (!strncmp (NAME, "_OBJC_", 6)) fprintf (FILE, "L%s", NAME); \ else if (!strncmp (NAME, ".objc_class_name_", 17)) \ fprintf (FILE, "%s", NAME); \ else fprintf (FILE, "_%s", NAME); } while (0) #undef ALIGN_ASM_OP #define ALIGN_ASM_OP ".align" #undef ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGN #define ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGN(FILE,LOG) \ if ((LOG) != 0) \ fprintf (FILE, "\t%s %d\n", ALIGN_ASM_OP, (LOG)) /* Ensure correct alignment of bss data. */ #undef ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGNED_LOCAL #define ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGNED_LOCAL(FILE, NAME, SIZE, ALIGN) \ ( fputs (".lcomm ", (FILE)), \ assemble_name ((FILE), (NAME)), \ fprintf ((FILE), ",%u,%u\n", (SIZE), floor_log2 ((ALIGN) / BITS_PER_UNIT))) /* Output #ident as a .ident. */ #undef ASM_OUTPUT_IDENT #define ASM_OUTPUT_IDENT(FILE, NAME) fprintf (FILE, "\t.ident \"%s\"\n", NAME); /* The maximum alignment which the object file format can support. For NeXT's Mach-O format, this is 2^15. */ #undef MAX_OFILE_ALIGNMENT #define MAX_OFILE_ALIGNMENT 0x8000 /* Create new Mach-O sections. */ #undef SECTION_FUNCTION #define SECTION_FUNCTION(FUNCTION, SECTION, DIRECTIVE, WAS_TEXT, OBJC) \ void \ FUNCTION () \ { \ extern void text_section (); \ extern void objc_section_init (); \ extern int flag_no_mach_text_sections; \ \ if (WAS_TEXT && flag_no_mach_text_sections) \ text_section (); \ else if (in_section != SECTION) \ { \ if (OBJC) \ objc_section_init (); \ fprintf (asm_out_file, "%s\n", DIRECTIVE); \ in_section = SECTION; \ } \ } \ #undef EXTRA_SECTIONS #define EXTRA_SECTIONS \ in_const, in_cstring, in_literal4, in_literal8, \ in_constructor, in_destructor, \ in_objc_class, in_objc_meta_class, in_objc_category, \ in_objc_class_vars, in_objc_instance_vars, \ in_objc_cls_meth, in_objc_inst_meth, \ in_objc_cat_cls_meth, in_objc_cat_inst_meth, \ in_objc_selector_refs, \ in_objc_symbols, in_objc_module_info, \ in_objc_protocol, in_objc_string_object, \ in_objc_class_names, in_objc_meth_var_names, \ in_objc_meth_var_types, in_objc_cls_refs #undef EXTRA_SECTION_FUNCTIONS #define EXTRA_SECTION_FUNCTIONS \ SECTION_FUNCTION (const_section, \ in_const, \ ".const", 1, 0) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (cstring_section, \ in_cstring, \ ".cstring", 1, 0) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (literal4_section, \ in_literal4, \ ".literal4", 1, 0) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (literal8_section, \ in_literal8, \ ".literal8", 1, 0) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (constructor_section, \ in_constructor, \ ".constructor", 0, 0) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (destructor_section, \ in_destructor, \ ".destructor", 0, 0) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_class_section, \ in_objc_class, \ ".objc_class", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_meta_class_section, \ in_objc_meta_class, \ ".objc_meta_class", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_category_section, \ in_objc_category, \ ".objc_category", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_class_vars_section, \ in_objc_class_vars, \ ".objc_class_vars", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_instance_vars_section, \ in_objc_instance_vars, \ ".objc_instance_vars", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_cls_meth_section, \ in_objc_cls_meth, \ ".objc_cls_meth", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_inst_meth_section, \ in_objc_inst_meth, \ ".objc_inst_meth", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_cat_cls_meth_section, \ in_objc_cat_cls_meth, \ ".objc_cat_cls_meth", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_cat_inst_meth_section, \ in_objc_cat_inst_meth, \ ".objc_cat_inst_meth", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_selector_refs_section, \ in_objc_selector_refs, \ ".objc_message_refs", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_symbols_section, \ in_objc_symbols, \ ".objc_symbols", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_module_info_section, \ in_objc_module_info, \ ".objc_module_info", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_protocol_section, \ in_objc_protocol, \ ".objc_protocol", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_string_object_section, \ in_objc_string_object, \ ".objc_string_object", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_class_names_section, \ in_objc_class_names, \ ".objc_class_names", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_meth_var_names_section, \ in_objc_meth_var_names, \ ".objc_meth_var_names", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_meth_var_types_section, \ in_objc_meth_var_types, \ ".objc_meth_var_types", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_cls_refs_section, \ in_objc_cls_refs, \ ".objc_cls_refs", 0, 1) \ \ void \ objc_section_init () \ { \ static int been_here = 0; \ \ if (been_here == 0) \ { \ been_here = 1; \ objc_class_section (); \ objc_meta_class_section (); \ objc_cat_cls_meth_section (); \ objc_cat_inst_meth_section (); \ objc_cls_meth_section (); \ objc_inst_meth_section (); \ objc_selector_refs_section (); \ objc_symbols_section (); \ objc_category_section (); \ objc_protocol_section (); \ objc_class_vars_section (); \ objc_instance_vars_section (); \ objc_module_info_section (); \ objc_string_object_section (); \ objc_class_names_section (); \ objc_meth_var_names_section (); \ objc_meth_var_types_section (); \ objc_cls_refs_section (); \ } \ } #undef READONLY_DATA_SECTION #define READONLY_DATA_SECTION const_section #undef SELECT_SECTION #define SELECT_SECTION(exp,reloc) \ do \ { \ if (TREE_CODE (exp) == STRING_CST) \ { \ if (flag_writable_strings) \ data_section (); \ else if (TREE_STRING_LENGTH (exp) != \ strlen (TREE_STRING_POINTER (exp)) + 1) \ readonly_data_section (); \ else \ cstring_section (); \ } \ else if (TREE_CODE (exp) == INTEGER_CST \ || TREE_CODE (exp) == REAL_CST) \ { \ tree size = TYPE_SIZE (TREE_TYPE (exp)); \ \ if (TREE_CODE (size) == INTEGER_CST && \ TREE_INT_CST_LOW (size) == 4 && \ TREE_INT_CST_HIGH (size) == 0) \ literal4_section (); \ else if (TREE_CODE (size) == INTEGER_CST && \ TREE_INT_CST_LOW (size) == 8 && \ TREE_INT_CST_HIGH (size) == 0) \ literal8_section (); \ else \ readonly_data_section (); \ } \ else if (TREE_CODE (exp) == CONSTRUCTOR \ && TREE_TYPE (exp) \ && TREE_CODE (TREE_TYPE (exp)) == RECORD_TYPE \ && TYPE_NAME (TREE_TYPE (exp)) \ && TREE_CODE (TYPE_NAME (TREE_TYPE (exp))) == IDENTIFIER_NODE \ && IDENTIFIER_POINTER (TYPE_NAME (TREE_TYPE (exp)))) \ { \ if (!strcmp (IDENTIFIER_POINTER (TYPE_NAME (TREE_TYPE (exp))), \ "NXConstantString")) \ objc_string_object_section (); \ else if ((TREE_READONLY (exp) || TREE_CONSTANT (exp)) \ && !TREE_SIDE_EFFECTS (exp)) \ readonly_data_section (); \ else \ data_section (); \ } \ else if (TREE_CODE (exp) == VAR_DECL && \ DECL_NAME (exp) && \ TREE_CODE (DECL_NAME (exp)) == IDENTIFIER_NODE && \ IDENTIFIER_POINTER (DECL_NAME (exp)) && \ !strncmp (IDENTIFIER_POINTER (DECL_NAME (exp)), "_OBJC_", 6)) \ { \ const char *name = IDENTIFIER_POINTER (DECL_NAME (exp)); \ \ if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CLASS_METHODS_", 20)) \ objc_cls_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_INSTANCE_METHODS_", 23)) \ objc_inst_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CATEGORY_CLASS_METHODS_", 20)) \ objc_cat_cls_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CATEGORY_INSTANCE_METHODS_", 23)) \ objc_cat_inst_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CLASS_VARIABLES_", 22)) \ objc_class_vars_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_INSTANCE_VARIABLES_", 25)) \ objc_instance_vars_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CLASS_PROTOCOLS_", 22)) \ objc_cat_cls_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CLASS_NAME_", 17)) \ objc_class_names_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_METH_VAR_NAME_", 20)) \ objc_meth_var_names_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_METH_VAR_TYPE_", 20)) \ objc_meth_var_types_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CLASS_REFERENCES", 22)) \ objc_cls_refs_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CLASS_", 12)) \ objc_class_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_METACLASS_", 16)) \ objc_meta_class_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CATEGORY_", 15)) \ objc_category_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_SELECTOR_REFERENCES", 25)) \ objc_selector_refs_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_SYMBOLS", 13)) \ objc_symbols_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_MODULES", 13)) \ objc_module_info_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_PROTOCOL_INSTANCE_METHODS_", 32)) \ objc_cat_inst_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_PROTOCOL_CLASS_METHODS_", 29)) \ objc_cat_cls_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_PROTOCOL_REFS_", 20)) \ objc_cat_cls_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_PROTOCOL_", 15)) \ objc_protocol_section (); \ else if ((TREE_READONLY (exp) || TREE_CONSTANT (exp)) \ && !TREE_SIDE_EFFECTS (exp)) \ readonly_data_section (); \ else \ data_section (); \ } \ else if (TREE_CODE (exp) == VAR_DECL) \ { \ if ((flag_pic && reloc) \ || !TREE_READONLY (exp) || TREE_SIDE_EFFECTS (exp) \ || !DECL_INITIAL (exp) \ || (DECL_INITIAL (exp) != error_mark_node \ && !TREE_CONSTANT (DECL_INITIAL (exp)))) \ data_section (); \ else \ readonly_data_section (); \ } \ else \ readonly_data_section (); \ } \ while (0) #undef SELECT_RTX_SECTION #define SELECT_RTX_SECTION(mode, rtx) \ do \ { \ if (GET_MODE_SIZE(mode) == 8) \ literal8_section(); \ else if (GET_MODE_SIZE(mode) == 4) \ literal4_section(); \ else \ const_section (); \ } \ while (0) --------------446B794B15FB--
From: ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu (Noah M. Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for display driver for Compaq notebook Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:24:34 -0500 Organization: Noah's Ark Message-ID: <ndaniel1-1702971324350001@p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com> I was wondering if anyone can help me - I'm looking for a display driver for a Compaq Contura notebook. None of the drivers included with the OPENSTEP/Mach 4.1 release support any better than black-and-white on the display, though the hardware can handle 8-bit color at 640x480. If I select the Western Digital LCD display driver, it's looking for 1 meg of VRAM, which is more than my notebook has. If I edit the memory maps in 'expert settings' to tell it to look for 300K of VRAM (if the machine supports 640x480x8b it must have at least 300K of VRAM) it still doesn't work; on reboot (either looking for 1 meg or 300K of VRAM) it warns of something like 'unsupported memory width' and defaults to the default VGA driver (which is why I'm getting black and white). Has anyone gotten the Western Digital LCD driver to work with a Compaq Contura 420C notebook or anything similar? Or has anyone attepted to write a driver for this machine? It's a decently solid machine and OPENSTEP handles nicely on it (as long as you stay away from the hardware suspend/hibernate commands, which are flaky with OPENSTEP) and it'd be nice to get OPENSTEP running on it (since the desktop box it had been installed on croaked). Thanks in advance! -- -- Noah M. Daniels ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~ndaniel1/ "He was a brave man who first ate an oyster" - Jonathan Swift "Wonder is the feeling of a philosopher, and philosophy begins in wonder" - Socrates
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX and LaTeX for NeXTStep Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:59:00 +0100 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <3308B884.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <330869BE.41C6@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ldbuchho wrote: > > Hi, > > does anyone know, where I can get a TeX/LaTeX-Compiler for my > NeXTstation-Computer? > > Thanks I'm using teTeX, have a look at Gregor's page: http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX/ stefan
From: humanist@interport.net (Michael Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next shareware/freeware-- where? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:11:34 GMT Organization: Humanist Movement Message-ID: <5eadum$goj@park.interport.net> Where can one find good Next-intel-3.30 shareware/freeware? ------------------- "Computers are like people; the old generation can never figure out the software in the newer generations. "
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: C compiler question Date: 17 Feb 1997 20:18:32 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <5eaeeo$s9f$1@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> Cc: cchris@chum.hooked.net In <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> Chris Christensen wrote: % Greetings, % % I am new to NeXT and to UNIX. When I try to use the C compiler % (c++ filename) I get the message "gcc:not found." What does this mean? % Does the GNU C compiler need to be "installed" on a NeXT system with 3.2 % or is it a problem with the path? It is called cc instead of gcc (cc: /bin/cc) ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which X server? Date: 17 Feb 1997 22:44:52 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5ean14$9kb$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> <5dvfjh$k89$1@darla.visi.com> <Pine.NXT.3.95.970214224346.568A-100000@pollux> <5e7g4l$r62$1@darla.visi.com> <Pine.NXT.3.95.970217224333.1940M-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> wrote: : Right, they are the only things i have installed of the whole CubX : package! CubX has not even a working de/installation programm. I cant : recommend the development package. Weird. It seems as though we've had totally opposite experiences. :( -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
Message-ID: <330869BE.41C6@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:22:54 +0100 From: ldbuchho <ldbuchho@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TeX and LaTeX for NeXTStep Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: University of Constance, Germany Hi, does anyone know, where I can get a TeX/LaTeX-Compiler for my NeXTstation-Computer? Thanks
From: tfrey@.next.com (Tony Frey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config v 3.37 Date: 17 Feb 1997 15:01:14 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5e9rrq$dpe@news.next.com> References: <5e54tp$lm2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Get the newest one from NeXTAnswers. In article <5e54tp$lm2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) writes: > I believe I need a newer version of the Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config than the > one on the 3.3 installation disks. If anyone hase v 3.37 or later, could you > please NeXTMail me a copy? Thank you. > > Randy Jackson > > -- > Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o > __o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\, > _`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> | > (*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\, > FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu > http://www.geography.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jackson/ -- ---------------------------------------------- Tony Frey tfrey@next.com NeXT Premium Support http://www.next.com ----------------------------------------------
From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 18 Feb 1997 02:23:42 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970218022300.VAA22612@ladder01.news.aol.com> I have a NeXTstation 8/105, ADB, NS 3.0, and there seems to be a strange thing happening occasionally when I boot the machine. The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: sc: scintr program error the machine then starts up as normal. This doesn't affect the performance at all, I'm just curious what's going on. TIA, Joe Gidi
From: cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: C compiler question Date: 17 Feb 1997 16:41:19 GMT Organization: Hooked Online Services Message-ID: <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> Greetings, I am new to NeXT and to UNIX. When I try to use the C compiler (c++ filename) I get the message "gcc:not found." What does this mean? Does the GNU C compiler need to be "installed" on a NeXT system with 3.2 or is it a problem with the path? Thank you for any help. Chris <cchris@hooked.net>
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: samba functionality on next? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:37:55 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <In2ETny00iWVIFs1co@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 17-Feb-97 samba functionality on next? by Paul Doornbusch@koncon.n > Please excuse me is this is something everyone else knows about, but I > would like the sort of functionality that I think Samba gives on NS 3.3. > I have a few PC's hanging off our net (we mostly have NS and Mac's - > thanks Frank for Cap), and while they network well between themselves > with Windoze software, the users would like similar functionality (ie > disk and printer sharing) from the host. NeXT's ship with NFS and lpd. Look up those topics in the man pages, Librarian.app and NeXT's Sysadmin docs, and/or your favorite O'Reilly reference manuals. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: named.....is it tricky? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:35:40 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Un2ERgC00iWV0Fs0BM@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5ea86s$o9k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> In-Reply-To: <5ea86s$o9k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 17-Feb-97 named.....is it tricky? by Jon Haveman@mgmt.purdue. > A friend of mine is in the process of setting up my NeXT to be a name > server for a couple of domain names. He has done this with a couple of > SGI computers and says he had no problem. He is struggling a little bit > with my NeXT. Says he read the man page and did the stuff he knows to > do, but that it isn't working. NeXT's named is a stock v4.8.3; it's what the O'Reilly "DNS and Bind" book was written for, pretty much. He might want to compile a 4.9.x version and use that, and he should be aware of NetInfo which interacts with the resolver routines on the nameserver itself. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mfrankow@winternet.com (Michael Frankowski) Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.anu-news Subject: cmsg cancel <01bc1ca8$718ed200$0100007f@lib-info-01> Control: cancel <01bc1ca8$718ed200$0100007f@lib-info-01> Date: 18 Feb 1997 03:00:56 GMT Organization: Lib Informática Ltda Sender: "Lib Informática Ltda" <Lib.Info@empresa.com.br> Message-ID: <winternet.com01bc1ca8$718ed200$0100007f@lib-info-01> Please cancel this article
From: lewispsc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Philip Lewis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sybase help needed Date: 17 Feb 1997 18:23:33 -0800 Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5eb3r5$1sc@elaine17.Stanford.EDU> I have the Sybase Limited Server which has been running on my NeXTStation; it is started from etc/rc.local each time I power on. According to SYBASE.errorlog, at 10.54 on February 10 it started satisfactorily. At 11.04 it restarted, though I am fairly sure that I hadn't closed it (I never consciously do), and usr/adm/messages shows nothing for that time. The errorlog then shows, Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: DBMS task stack area range: %x506008 to %x662008 Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: initializing virtual device 0, "/usr/sybase/database/master.sdb" Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: ninit: bind, Can't assign requested address Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: ksconsole: cannot initialize console Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: Using standard unix disk I/O for "/usr/sybase/database/master.sdb" Feb 10 1997 11:05PM server: Number of buffers in buffer cache: 912. Feb 10 1997 11:05PM server: Number of proc buffers allocated: 242. Feb 10 1997 11:05PM server: Number of blocks left for proc headers: 285. Feb 10 1997 11:05PM server: Opening Master Database ... Feb 10 1997 11:05PM server: Recovering database 'master' Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: network name otoole, port 3696 Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: ninit: bind, Can't assign requested address Feb 10 1997 11:05PM server: Unable to initialize network 0 and has done ever since. At first there were also repeated console messages, e.g.: Feb 13 15:32:35 otoole mach: tty3072: canon input overrun but these have not reappeared for some time. On one occasion only there was a message Feb 15 1997 11:39AM kernel: dopen: file "/usr/sybase/database/master.sdb" is already in use by The only other difference I can see in the record of the start-up process is that previously blocks left for proc headers were 284, and now they are 285. I have looked for files which were changed on 10 February, but the only one around the right time is master2.sdb, which was changed at 10.54 on 10 February. master.sdb was last changed at 15.03 that day, even though the server was not properly started then and has been tried without success ever since. Please help. Is there some way in which I can reinstall the server and make use of the .sdb files? Would that need the original disks? Philip Lewis lewispsc@leland.stanford.edu
From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which X server? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:59:51 +0000 Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970217224333.1940M-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> References: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> <5dvfjh$k89$1@darla.visi.com> <Pine.NXT.3.95.970214224346.568A-100000@pollux> <5e7g4l$r62$1@darla.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5e7g4l$r62$1@darla.visi.com> On 16 Feb 1997, David Young wrote: > If by "not compatible with OpenStep Developer" you mean that X doesn't > support PB/IB, well, duh. I'm not going to argue with you about speed I did not mean that. I meant that you cant compile apps under Openstep 4.1. BTW. we have CubX 5.0 > The lack of "X development tools" kinda has to do with X, not this > particular implementation of it. I've been able to successfully compile > almost every X application I've come across, including an Apple IIgs I was not so lucky, not even one compiled right out of the box by calling xmkmf and makefile. I had almost every time to modify files to make it compile, and very often they did not work although they compiled fine. This is my experience with NS 3.3p1/gcc 2.7.2 (2.5.8) and with OS 4.1 i was unable to compile anything, first i had to use ranlib on the libraries and afterwards i got some strange messages about treating libs as shared libs or something likely. > emulator (man, that was cool to see on the NeXT..). It ships with > your standard X suite; I know today Linux ships with like, xabuse and > other such fluff, but when it comes down to it, xterm, twm, and the X > server are the only things you really need. *shrug* Right, they are the only things i have installed of the whole CubX package! CubX has not even a working de/installation programm. I cant recommend the development package. > > -- > # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp > # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 > # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better) > > --- Konstantin Wiesel Email:kwiesel@jura.uni-bonn.de
From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: modem terminal application Date: 17 Feb 1997 23:08:30 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <5eaode$178@news-central.tiac.net> References: <3306A857.58A2@uiuc.edu> Brandon Cue <bcue@uiuc.edu> wrote: >I was wondering if there is a good modem app to dial into to my isp so >that I can download ppp and other goodies and get my box connected to >the internet. Any suggestions???? Ain't tip good enough for you?
From: american@mail.tds.net (Charles C. Hocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenWrite Spelling Question Date: 18 Feb 1997 01:23:52 GMT Organization: TDS Telecom - Madison, WI Message-ID: <5eb0b8$q1j@news2.tds.net> Hello everyone, I am having some problem getting the spelling feature in OpenWrite to work. Is there a problem with it? I pull up the spelling checker the usual way but am unable to check the document. At best, I only can check the word located under the cursor. Thanks, Charles -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Charles C. Hocker american@Mail.TDS.Net ASCII, MIME & NeXTmail american@aztec.asu.edu "Food is Power. We use it to change behavior. Some May Call that Bribery. We Do Not Apologize." Catherine Bertini, executive director, UN World Food Program, Beijing, China, UN 4th World Conference on Women, Sept. 1995. ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: scottb@formats-unlimited.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Internet Search Engines Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 05:06:06 GMT Organization: LI Net (Long Island Network) Message-ID: <32cfe53e.4780304@newshost.li.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for any software that will allow you to setup company names on the general internet search engines. I know there are a number of companies that offer this service but where are they getting this software.
From: "Daniel M. Burckhardt" <burckhar@arch.ethz.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 09:25:59 +0100 Organization: D-ARCH, ETHZ, CH Message-ID: <33096797.41C6@arch.ethz.ch> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aleksey Sudakov wrote: > > Anyone tried to compile kaffe for m68k with OpenStep 4.x ??? I gave it a try last week - without success (compiler reports a fatal error, seems to be some socket stuff). I haven't spent much time yet to look at it. If someone got any further, I would appreciate some advice. Daniel
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: named.....is it tricky? Date: 17 Feb 1997 18:31:56 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5ea86s$o9k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> A friend of mine is in the process of setting up my NeXT to be a name server for a couple of domain names. He has done this with a couple of SGI computers and says he had no problem. He is struggling a little bit with my NeXT. Says he read the man page and did the stuff he knows to do, but that it isn't working. I know that that isn't very much information, but does anybody know if there is anything non-standard, or tricky with respect to setting this up on a NeXT. I'm currently using NS3.3 if that matters. Thanks in advance. Cheers - jon -- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (765) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (765) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (765) 742-7961 (Home)
From: vhs@nextone.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Strange: Main menus nowhere to be seen Date: 18 Feb 1997 12:37:52 GMT Organization: Bull AG, Langen Message-ID: <5ec7r0$1va@www.langen.bull.de> References: <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> Cc: vbragin@ix.netcom.com In <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> Vicki Bragin wrote: > For the last several weeks, the main menus of two > applications I use (specifically Mesa and Edit) are > nowhere to be seen whenever I start both applications. > The menus remain hidden the whole time I use these > apps. The only way I am able to see the menu is by > using the right mouse button. Is there any keystroke > that I perchance might have used that caused the main > menus from both apps to remain invisible? How do I > get back these menus? There should be at least one row of pixels of the main menu visible on-screen. Try to look in the corners of your screen for a small black stripe. Or just drag out of the corners blindly. You might also try to readjust your monitor before that to make sure the edges of the screen image are not cut off. Volker
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: named.....is it tricky? Date: 18 Feb 1997 12:55:37 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5ec8s9$8hv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <Un2ERgC00iWV0Fs0BM@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 17-Feb-97 named.....is it > tricky? by Jon Haveman@mgmt.purdue. > > A friend of mine is in the process of setting up my NeXT to be a name > > server for a couple of domain names. He has done this with a couple of > > SGI computers and says he had no problem. He is struggling a little bit > > with my NeXT. Says he read the man page and did the stuff he knows to > > do, but that it isn't working. > > NeXT's named is a stock v4.8.3; it's what the O'Reilly "DNS and Bind" > book was written for, pretty much. He might want to compile a 4.9.x > version and use that, and he should be aware of NetInfo which interacts > with the resolver routines on the nameserver itself. Thanks Chuck. I'll pass that along. I'm guessing that it's the interaction with NetInfo that is screwing him up. If one were to set up named without considering NetInfo, would it work? Thanks again - Jon -- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (765) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (765) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (765) 742-7961 (Home)
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to connect via ISDN on Intel hardware? Date: 18 Feb 1997 04:35:36 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5ebbio$9o4@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> <1996Dec7.230912.24020@seer.demon.co.uk> <32FAEA2A.3CB8@gcomm.com> <5dhrvq$dbr@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> <5e4vj8$7qg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5ea03p$v8f@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) wrote: > Does the Zyxel have a com port built in? I think this is the only way, an > internal card could work without drivers. Exactly; that's the way they work. > Did you try such a card? How about system load because of the > heavy interrupt load caused by an ISDN connection? Not a card, but I use the external 2864ID via the serial port and see no reason why results should greatly differ. System load is no problem at all on my Pentium 90... Speed is usually about 7000cps Bye Uli -- ______________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine ______________________________________________________________________
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TESTERS NEEDED Helpful Internet program Date: 18 Feb 1997 14:27:36 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ece8o$1vt5@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <01bc191b$25e7f060$f11814cf@jane.crowley.asciient.com> "David Silviera" <david.silviera@asciient.com> wrote: >We are ASCII Entertainment Software. We are evaluating a product called >"The Internet Ninja" which is currently being distributed in Japan. This >software allows users to save images from the Internet with no download >time. To Save images, you simply click and drag the image you want on to >the Internet Ninja program. The Internet Ninja will take the image >straight out of your computer's cache memory and put a thumbnail image into >your "book". Cool... well, wrt. just dragging an image from my Web browser into another application, I've been able to do this for the last couple of years, using OmniWeb and e.g. Diagram :-) isn't NEXTSTEP wonderful.. What I find impressive though is the implementation of an instanteneous file transfer (probably based on Fast Thought Transfer Protocol, FTTP). I mean, Hey! *No* download time! All these annoying downloads via modem are a thing of the past! Now that could really be a reason to abandon NEXTSTEP and install Mircosoft Windows. These Ninja turtle programmers really are amazing, dude. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: anyone who is using Dial On Demand with GateKeeper Date: 17 Feb 1997 20:45:27 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5eag17$iij@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <5ea691$gfj@ustsu10.ust.hk> In article <5ea691$gfj@ustsu10.ust.hk> waiming@cs.ust.hk (Chan Wai Ming) writes: >Timothy J Luoma (luomat@peak.org) wrote: > >: I'm trying to get DOD working, but I've had no luck. > >: Anyone feel like giving advice? > >: TjL > >Hi, > >I'm also having trouble with DoD in GateKeeper 2.1 b5. My problem is that it >is always triggered to have a PPP connection even if I don't use any network >prog. > >Any hints for me to setup Dod ??? > You probably have undelivered mail in the queue. The queue is processed at regular intervals, if there is undelivered mail sendmail will trigger a dial on demand session as it attempts to deliver the mail. The minor mods that I made to the named daemon do not filter lookups so any name lookup for which the local nameserver is not authoritative will trigger a dial on demand session. >Thanks a lot ! > >yours >-- > After working with DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux, SunOS, NT, 95 .... > / / / I find myself like NEXTSTEP most. > \ \ \ > ------ It is tea, not Java :) A Happy NS user > \____/> waiming@cs.ust.hk -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 18 Feb 1997 15:22:58 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5echgi$931$4@darla.visi.com> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> <33096797.41C6@arch.ethz.ch> Daniel M. Burckhardt <burckhar@arch.ethz.ch> wrote: : I gave it a try last week - without success (compiler reports a fatal : error, seems to be some socket stuff). : I haven't spent much time yet to look at it. If someone got any further, : I would appreciate some advice. I have it built (0.8) for m68k. Two days after I built it, 0.8.2 came out, and that has m68k JIT support for A/UX. I just can't keep up. *sigh* BTW, the socket thing is fixed with an #include <libc.h> placed strategically. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Strange: Main menus nowhere to be seen Date: 18 Feb 1997 10:34:34 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> For the last several weeks, the main menus of two applications I use (specifically Mesa and Edit) are nowhere to be seen whenever I start both applications. The menus remain hidden the whole time I use these apps. The only way I am able to see the menu is by using the right mouse button. Is there any keystroke that I perchance might have used that caused the main menus from both apps to remain invisible? How do I get back these menus? Thanks for any help. Vicki Bragin -- ********************************************************** Victoria M. Bragin Physical Sciences Division, Pasadena City College 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA 91106-2003 Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 E-mail: (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) vbragin@nextlab.calstatela.edu vbragin@ix.netcom.com vbragin@paccd.cc.ca.us vbragin@pslc.ucla.edu **********************************************************
From: Paul Doornbusch <pauld@koncon.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: samba functionality on next? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:52:06 +0100 Organization: Wirehub! Internet Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello All, Please excuse me is this is something everyone else knows about, but I would like the sort of functionality that I think Samba gives on NS 3.3. I have a few PC's hanging off our net (we mostly have NS and Mac's - thanks Frank for Cap), and while they network well between themselves with Windoze software, the users would like similar functionality (ie disk and printer sharing) from the host. Is there a package out there to help? Please CC my private mail address on replies. Thanks a lot, Paul Doornbusch
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Strange: Main menus nowhere to be seen Date: 18 Feb 1997 16:58:00 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ecn2o$kh2@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) wrote: > For the last several weeks, the main menus of two > applications I use (specifically Mesa and Edit) are > nowhere to be seen whenever I start both applications. > The menus remain hidden the whole time I use these > apps. The only way I am able to see the menu is by > using the right mouse button. Is there any keystroke > that I perchance might have used that caused the main > menus from both apps to remain invisible? How do I > get back these menus? When a main menu is relocated from its default position, either purposely or through some sort of anomoly, a defaults database entry for the menu position should exist which will be used to place the menu in the same location on subsequent app invocations. Enter "dread -o TheAppName" to view the various defaults database variables. Then remove the variable that specifies the main menu location and restart the app. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Starting Apps from the command line Date: 18 Feb 97 08:01:20 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb18080120@howard.one.net> References: <7xlo8nzhb5.fsf@burrow.muc.de> <sams.856233728@shellx> In-reply-to: sams@best.com's message of 17 Feb 1997 18:44:32 -0800 In article <sams.856233728@shellx> sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) writes: Markus Gloede <markusg@burrow.muc.de> writes: >How do I open OmniImage (or any other viewer) and OmniWeb from the >command line with a file name as argument? No, I don't want to go via >Services. One of these will tell you how to open things in another app or window: man open Just to be painfully clear for Unix people ... that's "man 1 open", not "man 2 open". Of course, "man open" will find section 1 first ... Don't want anyone thinking open(2) does anything like this :-), -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Gloede <markusg@burrow.muc.de> Subject: Starting Apps from the command line Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xlo8nzhb5.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de (the mole) Organization: hardly any. . . Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:35:25 GMT I'm an ardent user of Emacs and Gnus is the newsreader of my choice. I would like to make use of Gnus's (and TM's, a MIME mode) ability to use external programs for viewing not-text things. How do I open OmniImage (or any other viewer) and OmniWeb from the command line with a file name as argument? No, I don't want to go via Services. Thanks for any pointers, Markus G
From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 17 Feb 1997 23:21:14 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> Anyone tried to compile kaffe for m68k with OpenStep 4.x ??? Somehow there is only Intel version of binaries at peak. Regards, Aleksey
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to connect via ISDN on Intel hardware? Date: 17 Feb 1997 16:13:45 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5ea03p$v8f@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> <1996Dec7.230912.24020@seer.demon.co.uk> <32FAEA2A.3CB8@gcomm.com> <5dhrvq$dbr@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> <5e4vj8$7qg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote: >michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) wrote: >> I don't think there are drivers for any ISDN _cards_ available. The only >> solution is an external TA. > >But ISDN cards such as the ZyXEL cards that don't need special drivers but >work with the AT command set just like an external TA on a serial port will >work of course. Does the Zyxel have a com port built in? I think this is the only way, an internal card could work without drivers. Did you try such a card? How about system load because of the heavy interrupt load caused by an ISDN connection? Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: olaf@orest.escape.de Subject: SUBMISSION: OlafAM.1.0 - a programmable voice/fax/data machine for selected modems Message-ID: <E5srz8.1vv@orest.escape.de> Sender: olaf@orest.escape.de (Olaf Mueller) Organization: Objective Methods, Inc. Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:59:32 GMT This posting is because of inexplicable slowlyness of moderation of comp.sys.next.announce --- The programmable voice/fax/data machine OlafAM ver 1.0 for NeXT Computers and selected modems is available now at ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/apps/OlafAM.1.0.NIH S.b.tar.gz ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/apps/OlafAM.1.0.REA DME Here the contents of the README: OlafAM a programmable Voice/Fax/Data machine for Computers running NextStep and selected Modems What is OlafAM ? ---------------- You can: telephone like before. OlafAM.app can dial for you. configure the behavior of the answering machine for your own purpose. You can play messages, reading digits entered by the caller, and invoke actions depending on the results of this input. You are able to listen to recorded voices from a remote place, and you can leave a message for friends. You are able to build a "Fax On Demand" machine. Received calls can be delivered to your mailbox, and a simple doubleClick will play it. send faxes using the PrintPanel This means, that you can fax everything you can print. receive faxes Received faxes can be delivered to your mailbox, and a simple doubleClick will display it. receive data calls Everybody can dial into your computer, if this feature is enabled. make data calls Use PPP, uucp or other programs to call out into the wide world of data communications. Requirements ------------ This software is built with white NS3.3 and tested on white, black and yellow NS3.3. It will probably also run on green computers. Following modems do definitely work together with this software: ZyXEL U1496?? (voice/fax/data modem) ZyXEL E2864?? (voice/fax/data modem) Creatix SG 2834 turbo (voice/fax/data modem) Creatix SG 2834 (fax/data modem) Other modems including a ROCKWELL chipset will probably also work. Modems only supporting Class2.0 Fax will maybe work. People who help me to support a modem, which does not work together with this software, will get a free permanent licence. Use --- If no licence string is entered, this package will run in demo mode. That means: * Incoming voices are limited to 4 seconds. * Regarding digits entered by caller disabled. * Incoming faxes are disabled. * Outgoing faxes are limited to 1 page. * Incoming data calls are limited to 1 minute. You can order a licence for 10 days for free, which enables all functions. You can order a permanent licence for each feature, either voice or fax or data with following prices: Voice Fax Data All 40 US$ 40 US$ 20 US$ 85 US$ Answering machine programs -------------------------- Answering Machine programs will be written in the language "AnsweringMachineLanguage" (AML). It is simple and sufficient for (nearly) all cases, i can imagine. You can have as many programs as you like. So you are able to configure your telephone today as a private machine and tomorrow as a fax-on-demand machine. Author: Olaf Mueller Heinrichstr. 38 D-38106 Braunschweig Germany eMail: olaf@orest.escape.de Tel/Fax: +49 -531 338026
From: Paul Doornbusch <pauld@koncon.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: samba functionality on next? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:17:56 +0100 Organization: Wirehub! Internet Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970218131550.4160A-100000@koncon> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> <In2ETny00iWVIFs1co@andrew.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <In2ETny00iWVIFs1co@andrew.cmu.edu> NFS is not what I wanted, an SMB server is really the answer. I think the package http://www.this.net/~frank/samba.pkg.tar.gz from Frank Siegert will do the trick, I just wish it could be installed under /usr/local instead of root - not a big deal. Paul On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Charles William Swiger wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 17-Feb-97 samba > functionality on next? by Paul Doornbusch@koncon.n > > Please excuse me is this is something everyone else knows about, but I > > would like the sort of functionality that I think Samba gives on NS 3.3. > > I have a few PC's hanging off our net (we mostly have NS and Mac's - > > thanks Frank for Cap), and while they network well between themselves > > with Windoze software, the users would like similar functionality (ie > > disk and printer sharing) from the host. > > NeXT's ship with NFS and lpd. Look up those topics in the man pages, > Librarian.app and NeXT's Sysadmin docs, and/or your favorite O'Reilly > reference manuals. > > -Chuck > > > Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer > ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- > I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. > > > Paul Doornbusch Sonology Dept. Royal Conservatory Den Haag The Netherlands
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: named.....is it tricky? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:15:02 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <sn2T6aS00iWk05nkg0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <Un2ERgC00iWV0Fs0BM@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ec8s9$8hv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> In-Reply-To: <5ec8s9$8hv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 18-Feb-97 Re: named.....is it tricky? by Jon Haveman@mgmt.purdue. > > NeXT's named is a stock v4.8.3; it's what the O'Reilly "DNS and Bind" > > book was written for, pretty much. He might want to compile a 4.9.x > > version and use that, and he should be aware of NetInfo which interacts > > with the resolver routines on the nameserver itself. > > Thanks Chuck. I'll pass that along. I'm guessing that it's the > interaction with NetInfo that is screwing him up. If one were to set up > named without considering NetInfo, would it work? NetInfo shouldn't impact the nameserver, unless NetInfo is screwed up enough that the resolver routines don't return valid information, which might prevent the nameserver daemon from finding the root nameservers and being able to bootstrap itself into a fully working mode. You haven't provided enough information about the problem for me to guess whether NetInfo actually is the problem-- all you asked for was things to be aware of, and NetInfo is something your friend should look into if he's having problems. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: file ownership Message-ID: <E5t9Lq.E7A@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:20:14 GMT References: <5ecq0j$btd@news.acns.nwu.edu> In comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote: > I'm having a problem with file ownership. > My root disk / is owned by the system and everything is fine with that. > However my second and third scsi disks and all of the files on them keep changing > ownership to my account . > ... > So my questions are: Why does it keep changing ownership? > How can I make the ownership sticky (remain root)? > What caused this problem, so I can prevent it in the future. Typically this is caused by not having an entry for the disk in your /etc/fstab file. If Workspace notices a SCSI disk which isn't specifically mentioned in your fstab, it assumes that it is a temporary disk which you want mounted in the same manner as a floppy. The disk is mounted using the permissions of the current user logged in. If this is the cause of your problem, you can simply add a line like the following to /etc/fstab, so that the disk will be a permanent part of your machine's set of file systems: /dev/sd1a /LocalApps 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 assuming you want the disk mounted as /LocalApps. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine."
From: dayne@excell.com (Dayne Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Will there *ever* be a new version of SpiderWoman? Date: 16 Feb 1997 21:25:43 GMT Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <5e7u0n$7th@juliana.sprynet.com> I haven't heard *anything* about SpiderWoman for a long time. The Web page (http://sente.epfl.ch/~swoman) still says that "A new version of SpiderWoman will be released" -- but as far as I can tell nothing has been updated since June 1995. Anyone know anything? -Dayne Miller daynem@excell.com
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Starting Apps from the command line Date: 17 Feb 1997 18:44:32 -0800 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <sams.856233728@shellx> References: <7xlo8nzhb5.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Markus Gloede <markusg@burrow.muc.de> writes: >How do I open OmniImage (or any other viewer) and OmniWeb from the >command line with a file name as argument? No, I don't want to go via >Services. One of these will tell you how to open things in another app or window: man open terminal -help cheers, -sam
From: Pohl Longsine <pohl@screaming.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Will there *ever* be a new version of SpiderWoman? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:51:03 -0600 Organization: mementech, inc. Message-ID: <33094347.1FB18CAB@screaming.org> References: <5e7u0n$7th@juliana.sprynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dayne Miller wrote: > I haven't heard *anything* about SpiderWoman for a long time. The Web > page (http://sente.epfl.ch/~swoman) still says that "A new version of > SpiderWoman will be released" -- but as far as I can tell nothing has > been updated since June 1995. > > Anyone know anything? I sent them some fan mail after the acquisition to ask if they intended to dust-off this project. I got a very nice reply saying that I wasn't the only curious person, and that other projects were getting higher priority -- but that there was a possiblity that it would continue now that the potential market just became much larger. -- pohl@screaming.org |"Reality is that which when you stop believing http://screaming.org/ | in it doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick ----------------------+---------------------------------------------- OpenStep Inferno Java | Making the world safe for platform diversity.
From: Jickmeister <stwillis@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BackSpace trouble Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:25:03 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970218151645.17600B-100000@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Howdy, I recently purchased a NextStation mono 8/105 running NS 3.2. I came across the screensaver package BackSpace last night, and installed it in my user account, and everything seemed to work fine. However, when I tried to add modules (SpewView, Polyfrog, etc.) from the same ftp site (next.peak.org), I kept getting errors of "Couldn't load dynamic class" or something of that nature. The program recognized that the modules existed, as I had placed them in the correct directory under library (BackSpaceViews), but would not load any one of them. If anyone has any idea as to why this is happening, and/or knows how to fix it, I would be greatly obliged if you would share such information. Thanks for your time. sean +*********************************************************************+ | Everybody wants prosthetic forheads on their real heads. --TMBG | +*********************************************************************+ stwillis@uiuc.edu <-----------------> willboy@arh0215.urh.uiuc.edu http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/stwillis **Want me in the Oval Office?? Vote Willis in 2012!!**
From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 18 Feb 1997 23:57:50 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <5edflu$1cj@news-central.tiac.net> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> <33096797.41C6@arch.ethz.ch> <5echgi$931$4@darla.visi.com> David Young <dwy@ace.net> wrote: >Daniel M. Burckhardt <burckhar@arch.ethz.ch> wrote: >: I gave it a try last week - without success (compiler reports a fatal >: error, seems to be some socket stuff). >: I haven't spent much time yet to look at it. If someone got any further, >: I would appreciate some advice. > >I have it built (0.8) for m68k. Two days after I built it, 0.8.2 came >out, and that has m68k JIT support for A/UX. > >I just can't keep up. *sigh* > >BTW, the socket thing is fixed with an #include <libc.h> placed >strategically. > Guys do you both use gcc that comes with OpenStep or what? Thanks, Aleksey.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: samba functionality on next? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:47:13 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kn2Xy1y00iWSMDUcE8@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> <In2ETny00iWVIFs1co@andrew.cmu.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.91.970218131550.4160A-100000@koncon> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970218131550.4160A-100000@koncon> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 18-Feb-97 Re: samba functionality on .. by Paul Doornbusch@koncon.n > NFS is not what I wanted, an SMB server is really the answer. I think > the package http://www.this.net/~frank/samba.pkg.tar.gz from Frank > Siegert will do the trick, I just wish it could be installed under > /usr/local instead of root - not a big deal. If you're motivated, you could always configure the software as you see fit and release it to the Internet at large. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: root@sambo.uiuc.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: www browser with frames besides OmniWeb Date: 19 Feb 1997 00:10:29 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <5edgdl$l2p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I have a Cyrix based motherboard and as such cannot use OmniWeb. I download SpiderWoman, but it does not support frames. What else is available that will do the trick. Is there a faq that describes the options? I recall seeing one but cannot remember where I saw it. thanks a NeXTSTEP newbie Brandon Cue bcue@students.uiuc.edu
From: dayne@excell.com (Dayne Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Launching windows w/ different color depths? Date: 16 Feb 1997 21:14:53 GMT Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <5e7tcd$78f@juliana.sprynet.com> I know that NEXTSTEP supports this, but how? For instance, I usually run in 16-bit mode, but I'd love to have some OmniWeb windows open in 8-bit mode so I can determine if my graphics and colors will look when dithered down that far. Any help on this would be much appreciated. -Dayne Miller daynem@excell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: C compiler question Message-ID: <E5syDH.2LE@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:17:41 GMT In article <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) writes: > Greetings, > > I am new to NeXT and to UNIX. When I try to use the C compiler > (c++ filename) I get the message "gcc:not found." What does this mean? > Does the GNU C compiler need to be "installed" on a NeXT system with 3.2 > or is it a problem with the path? > > Thank you for any help. > > > Chris > <cchris@hooked.net> Hi Chris, do you have the Nextstep developer packages installed (correctly)? Robert. ========================================================================== Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ==========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer : downloading all newsgroups? Message-ID: <E5syDK.2M3@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5e848g$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:17:44 GMT In article <5e848g$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) writes: > Hi. Is there anyway to stop NewsGrazer from loading all newsgroups down from > the host nntp machine every time it runs? I am subscribed to half a dozen > newsgroups and don't want to waste the time it takes for NewsGrazer to build a > list of 10,000 newsgroups. Cheers, > > Jeff Richmond Hi Jeff, try changing NewsGrazer's default view in preferences from browser to list. Perhaps this will prefent it from downloading the article list. I haven't tried this, but perhaps it helps... Robert. ========================================================================= Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ==========================================================================
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 19 Feb 1997 03:47:48 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5edt54$mko$4@darla.visi.com> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> <33096797.41C6@arch.ethz.ch> <5echgi$931$4@darla.visi.com> <5edflu$1cj@news-central.tiac.net> Aleksey Sudakov <zander@conextions.com> wrote: : >BTW, the socket thing is fixed with an #include <libc.h> placed : >strategically. : Guys do you both use gcc that comes with OpenStep or what? It builds with both cc on NS 3.3 (which is a little more up to date than the version number suggests) and with gcc 2.7.2.2. Personally, I like NeXT's cc for most situations for numerous reasons. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: Jickmeister <stwillis@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace trouble Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:52:23 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970218195049.19235A-100000@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970218151645.17600B-100000@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970218151645.17600B-100000@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Jickmeister wrote: > Howdy, > I recently purchased a NextStation mono 8/105 running NS 3.2. I ^^^ I meant 3.0 User (BareBones Vervion). Sorry for any confusion. Thanks. sean +*********************************************************************+ | Everybody wants prosthetic forheads on their real heads. --TMBG | +*********************************************************************+ stwillis@uiuc.edu <-----------------> willboy@arh0215.urh.uiuc.edu http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/stwillis **Want me in the Oval Office?? Vote Willis in 2012!!**
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good GUI ftp client? Date: 19 Feb 1997 04:36:46 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet <info@cais.com> Message-ID: <5ee00u$4j3@news2.cais.com> References: <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> <5e0et2$i78@news3.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <5e0et2$i78@news3.digex.net> On 02/13/97, John Kheit wrote: >I think the best one is Netsurfer's... I second this recommendation. NetSurfer has the coolest FTP GUI... Robert -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good GUI ftp client? Date: 19 Feb 1997 08:52:00 GMT Organization: GMD-FOKUS Message-ID: <5eeevg$i25@stern.fokus.gmd.de> References: <5ee00u$4j3@news2.cais.com> Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes > On 02/13/97, John Kheit wrote: > >I think the best one is Netsurfer's... > > I second this recommendation. NetSurfer has the coolest FTP GUI... > > Robert > I prefer Yftp. And: it's FREE and comes with source code. Robert (the Fischer one) -- ----- - .-. -- -- --- / \ ---- Robert Fischer .-. / \ --- .-. __o .-. @ / \ / \ / \ _`\<,_ / \ GMD-Fokus / \ / \ / \ (*)/ (*) / `-------------- / `---' `-' `-----------'
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Scanners and software Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 13:41:09 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <330A8456.192B@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <856286891.17325.0@scmolec.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk wrote: > > I was wondering if there are any scanners that work with a NeXT slab. > I was particularly thinking of a scanner such as Visioneer's > PaperPort. I primarily want to just scan documents. Also what software > would be needed to do this and if I also wanted to do any OCR what > software is available Please check out following web site. Image scanning: http://www.ipc.de/information/products/index.html ScanOmatic is an easy-to-use scanner software for most of the popular desktop scanners and NEXTSTEP computers. SUPPORTED SCANNERS ================== HP ScanJet: II, IIc, IIcx, IIp, 3c/4c Umax: UG80, UC300, UC630, UC840, UC1200S, UC1260 VISTA S6, VISTA S8, PS2400 PowerLook, T630 EPSON: GT-6000, GT-9000 (verified) 300,600,800,1000,4000,6500,8000 (not tested) HSD: color, mono XRS: RSU-1, x-ray scanner Oce: G60XX and G60XX-S series AGFA: Arcus II NIKON: FS-1000 slide scanner RICOH: IS410, IS420 A3 large size Bell+Howell: 4000 F, 5000 F A3 large size And any scanner with a compatible mode to one of the above listed. ocr scanning: http://www.gscorp.com/ eXTRASCAN eXTRAREAD younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 19 Feb 1997 00:19:05 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <5ee60p$bie$1@Venus.mcs.net> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> <33096797.41C6@arch.ethz.ch> <5echgi$931$4@darla.visi.com> David Young <dwy@ace.net> writes: >Daniel M. Burckhardt <burckhar@arch.ethz.ch> wrote: >: I gave it a try last week - without success (compiler reports a fatal >: error, seems to be some socket stuff). >: I haven't spent much time yet to look at it. If someone got any further, >: I would appreciate some advice. >I have it built (0.8) for m68k. Two days after I built it, 0.8.2 came >out, and that has m68k JIT support for A/UX. >I just can't keep up. *sigh* >BTW, the socket thing is fixed with an #include <libc.h> placed >strategically. I hope you meant 0.8.1, David, unless you're way ahead of the rest of us. :-) I tried again with 0.8.1 and haven't found any socket problems so far, only cc -g -O -DNO_SHARED_LIBRARIES -I. -I. -I./../../config -I../../config -I../../include -DTRANSLATOR -I./jit -DKVER=\"0.81\" -c external.c external.c:32: header file '../../packages/external_native.h' not found *** Exit 1 Stop. Oddly, I couldn't find any references to external_native.h anywhere else in the package, so I'm temporarily stumped for now, since I don't have much time to look at it. Maybe tomorrow, though. (i386 NS3.3p1) -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
From: Erik Evensen <erik@avalon.harvard.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: screensaver for energy saving monitors Date: 18 Feb 1997 23:49:16 -0500 Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Message-ID: <tog1yto0xf.fsf@avalon.harvard.edu> Hello, I'm wondering if there is a screen saver for NS3.3 on Intel that supports blanking the screen such that an energy saving monitor will go into power saving mode. If so, what's it called and where can I get it? Thanks --erik
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Talk between Linux and NeXT impossible? Date: 18 Feb 1997 11:37:23 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5ec49j$130@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) wrote: >I'm currently in a mixed network with Linux, and NS machines. However I'm >not able to use the 'talk' command between those machines. It seems as if >there are different used protocols. I have no problem to start a talk session from my NeXTstation to my Linux router and vice versa (both on the same network of course ;-) ). I'm using standard talk and talkd of NS 3.2 and it seems to be a Berkeley 4.2 talk on the Linux system. 'man talk' says: The version of talk(1) released with 4.3BSD uses a protocol that is in- compatible with the protocol used in the version released with 4.2BSD. This could be the reason for your problems. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: Lars Immisch <immisch@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: samba functionality on next? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:13:06 +0100 Organization: Immisch, Becker & Partner Message-ID: <3309AAE2.7BBA@pobox.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: Paul Doornbusch <pauld@koncon.nl> Paul Doornbusch wrote: > > Hello All, > > Please excuse me is this is something everyone else knows about, but I > would like the sort of functionality that I think Samba gives on NS 3.3. > I have a few PC's hanging off our net (we mostly have NS and Mac's - > thanks Frank for Cap), and while they network well between themselves > with Windoze software, the users would like similar functionality (ie > disk and printer sharing) from the host. Samba - ftp://nimbus.anu.edu.au/pub/tridge/samba - compiles on NS 3.3 without problems. You have to edit the Makefile, but there is a section explaining what you have to do for NS 3.x. If you follow them, it should compile fine. > Is there a package out there to help? Not as a package... But it's easy to build. > Please CC my private mail address on replies. > Thanks a lot, > > Paul Doornbusch Lars -- mailto:immisch@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~immisch Yesterdays yellow yoyo can make you yawn today
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax software on NeXT Date: 19 Feb 1997 14:29:08 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <5ef2nk$26e@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <1997Jan10.191542.2125@gamelan.shnet.org> thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke) wrote: > >I'm looking for a way to send faxes from my cube (NS3.2) and my USR Sportster >modem. The sportster is not supported by NXFax ! > >Did someone manage mgetty+sendfax running/compiling ? Any preconfigured >bundle somewhere for download ? > Try using JollysClass2FaxDriver (sending Faxes only) or OlafAM (sending Faxes, receiving Faxes, receiving data calls, answering machine). Both are shareware and available on peanuts.leo.org or its mirro ftp.evolution.com Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de)
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: samba functionality on next? Date: 19 Feb 1997 01:13:30 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5edk3q$ljg@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> <In2ETny00iWVIFs1co@andrew.cmu.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.91.970218131550.4160A-100000@koncon> <kn2Xy1y00iWSMDUcE8@andrew.cmu.edu> Cc: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu In <kn2Xy1y00iWSMDUcE8@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 18-Feb-97 Re: samba > functionality on .. by Paul Doornbusch@koncon.n > > NFS is not what I wanted, an SMB server is really the answer. I think > > the package http://www.this.net/~frank/samba.pkg.tar.gz from Frank > > Siegert will do the trick, I just wish it could be installed under > > /usr/local instead of root - not a big deal. > > If you're motivated, you could always configure the software as you see > fit and release it to the Internet at large. > Will happen hopefully soon. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Launching windows w/ different color depths? Date: 19 Feb 1997 15:00:37 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ef4il$1das@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5e7tcd$78f@juliana.sprynet.com> dayne@excell.com (Dayne Miller) wrote: >I know that NEXTSTEP supports this, but how? For instance, I usually >run in 16-bit mode, but I'd love to have some OmniWeb windows open in >8-bit mode so I can determine if my graphics and colors will look when >dithered down that far. dwrite <appname> NXWindowDepthLimit EightBitGray I'm not sure if there's also command line version for this. Hope this helps, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Launching windows w/ different color depths? Date: 19 Feb 1997 04:35:22 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet <info@cais.com> Message-ID: <5edvua$311@news2.cais.com> References: <5e7tcd$78f@juliana.sprynet.com> In-Reply-To: <5e7tcd$78f@juliana.sprynet.com> It's something like: % dwrite OmniWeb NXWindowDepthLimit TestEightBitRGB -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Talk between Linux and NeXT impossible? Date: 19 Feb 1997 14:16:10 GMT Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <5ef1va$9tc$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> References: <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>, scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) writes: > I'm currently in a mixed network with Linux, and NS machines. However I'm not > able to use the 'talk' command between those machines. It seems as if there > are different used protocols. > > Did anybody else experience this and is there a talkd replacement or > something else? What to do? You might want to try "ytalk" which has some improvements over other talks. ;-) Bernhard
From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX and LaTeX for NeXTStep Date: 19 Feb 1997 15:52:33 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Message-ID: <5ef7k1$m78@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> References: <330869BE.41C6@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de> <3308B884.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> In article <3308B884.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>, Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> writes: |> ldbuchho wrote: |> > |> > Hi, |> > |> > does anyone know, where I can get a TeX/LaTeX-Compiler for my |> > NeXTstation-Computer? |> > |> > Thanks |> |> I'm using teTeX, have a look at Gregor's page: |> |> http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX/ |> |> |> |> stefan There is a NeXTTeX package on the OS distribution CD-ROM. Works great, but it's probably still LaTeX 2.09. Get LaTeX2e off the 'Net (finger ctan@ftp.tex.ac.uk for a list of archive sites). -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com -- Software consulting (Perl, C, Python, ...), ghost@ghost.neosoft.com -- (see: http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/5857.html)
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: www browser with frames besides OmniWeb Date: 19 Feb 1997 15:48:25 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5ef7c9$p9d@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5edgdl$l2p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> root@sambo.uiuc.edu (Operator) wrote: > I have a Cyrix based motherboard and as such cannot use OmniWeb. Ooops!?! What has the processor to do with OmniWeb??? Bye Uli -- ______________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine ______________________________________________________________________
From: IT Connections <mail@it-connect.com> Newsgroups: uk.jobs.offered,uk.jobs.contract,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXT's Web Objects/Enterprise Objects Job - London based. Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:55:00 +0000 Organization: IT Connections Distribution: world Message-ID: <$DHk4GAUJyCzEwjn@it-connect.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 NeXT's Web Objects/Enterprise Objects Job - London based. Anyone out there like a job? This is an excellent opportunity to work for one of the coolest companies in the Universe. A developer is required to spearhead the commercialisation of their Web site. This will involve creation of both backend objects via data from an Oracle database and creation of front end dynamic pages using NeXT's Web Objects and Enterprise Objects and HTML. Contractors maybe considered for this role. Salary top pay Contact Andrew Akhurst for an informal discussion or mail CV to him. IT Connections Tel: 01525 840123 98-100 Dunstable Street Fax: 01525 840899 Ampthill Email: mail@it-connect.com Bedfordshire URL: http://www.it-connect.com MK45 2JP
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 19 Feb 1997 17:13:54 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5efcci$f6n$2@darla.visi.com> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> <33096797.41C6@arch.ethz.ch> <5echgi$931$4@darla.visi.com> <5ee60p$bie$1@Venus.mcs.net> Font <font@MCS.COM> wrote: : I hope you meant 0.8.1, David, unless you're way ahead of the rest of : us. :-) I tried again with 0.8.1 and haven't found any socket : problems so far, only Heh, I just checked ftp.sarc.city.ac.uk, and all they have is 0.8.1. However: To: Kaffe announcement list <kaffe-announce@sarc.city.ac.uk> Subject: [RELEASED] Kaffe 0.8.2 Guess tjw got mixed up. :) : Oddly, I couldn't find any references to external_native.h anywhere : else in the package, so I'm temporarily stumped for now, since I don't : have much time to look at it. Maybe tomorrow, though. (i386 NS3.3p1) Weird, it should never get external_native. The VM core should be smart enough to use mach-o/rld.h instead. Hmm. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: www browser with frames besides OmniWeb Date: 19 Feb 1997 17:15:14 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm285-08.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5efcf2$n15$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5edgdl$l2p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <5ef7c9$p9d@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Cc: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de In <5ef7c9$p9d@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote: > root@sambo.uiuc.edu (Operator) wrote: > > I have a Cyrix based motherboard and as such cannot use OmniWeb. > > Ooops!?! What has the processor to do with OmniWeb??? > > Bye > Uli > Ooops!?! Nothing more that it locks up the machine. Cyrix is not 100% compatible with Intel. Bye Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Launching windows w/ different color depths? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E5vBFr.GA2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 20:55:03 GMT References: <5e7tcd$78f@juliana.sprynet.com> <5ef4il$1das@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5ef4il$1das@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>, Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> wrote: > >dwrite <appname> NXWindowDepthLimit EightBitGray > >I'm not sure if there's also command line version for this. > I've used the command line version (under Motorola). You can use any mode (for example I run Terminal.app in TwoBigGray). -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help Installing Software Date: 18 Feb 1997 14:08:47 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ecd5g$1vt5@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <byrnejbb-1102972215530001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> <5dt4k6$m08$2@darla.visi.com> dwy@ace.net (David Young) wrote: >ln -s /Quantum270mb/NextApps /NextApps >... > >ln means "link". -s means "symbolic". without the -s, it tries to >make a hard link, which can't be done on directories. .. if crossing file system borders. Directories can still be hard linked (via the link ystem call), but it should be avoided, as it's easy to create a mess. Of course, in this case, it's a cross-device link, so it has to be made a symbolic link. I once had to deal with machine with a directory that contained an entry that was a hard link to itself :-) Ah, the olden days. Regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net (The Rev. James David Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Why won't my Color Turbo Station power down Date: 18 Feb 1997 20:42:17 GMT Organization: JLC-net, Milford NH Message-ID: <5ed479$ctm@mozart.jlc.net> I really do love my color turbo. Problem is, whenever I try to reboot it or shut it down, it hangs, necessitating a break to the ROM monitor, and a 'bsd' from there. I'd like to skip this,. Does any know why it might do this? Thanks in advance. Peace, James -- The Rev. James David Meacham First Unitarian Congregational Society of Wilton Center, NH e-mail:jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net 603-654-9518 (Church) 603-654-9590(Home) 603-654-2248(fax) Church Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/index.html Personal Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/jameshome.html
From: David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scanners and software Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:28:11 GMT Message-ID: <856286891.17325.0@scmolec.demon.co.uk> I was wondering if there are any scanners that work with a NeXT slab. I was particularly thinking of a scanner such as Visioneer's PaperPort. I primarily want to just scan documents. Also what software would be needed to do this and if I also wanted to do any OCR what software is available Thanks for any help email me!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David M Webster David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk Southern Cross Molecular or +44 (0)1225 722896 david@scmolec.demon.co.uk NeXTmail + MIME accepted http://www.scmolec.demon.co.uk/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David M Webster David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk Southern Cross Molecular or +44 (0)1225 722896 david@scmolec.demon.co.uk NeXTmail + MIME accepted http://www.scmolec.demon.co.uk/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Mighty Maomoondog <cdouty@netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Terminal App [was Re: Question on NS 3.3 User] Date: 19 Feb 1997 23:52:18 GMT Organization: Dis Message-ID: <5eg3ni$335$1@news.aimnet.com> References: <01bc1a45$c1a346a0$682273c6@s2-nl-lynnh> <5e278u$5pi$1@athena.ulaval.ca> <33054F9E.3DD3@uiuc.edu> Cc: bcue@uiuc.edu In <33054F9E.3DD3@uiuc.edu> Brandon Cue wrote: > I have NS 3.3 User for Intel and need a good terminal application to > dial into my isp sot that I can download some NeXT stuff. Does anyone > have a suggestion? I'm quite happy with TipTop.app from TipTop Software. PO Box 30681 Bethesda, MD 20824, USA Tel/Fax: +1 (301) 656-3837 I believe that they also have a website at http://www.tiptop.com/ The app should be about $100. They might have an academic discount. They also produce some really nifty programming tools (obj-Perl, obj-TCL). -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: Richard Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: Looking for Animo software/manuals Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:49:33 -0800 Organization: Code Monkeys of America Message-ID: <330B675D.52A4@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am posting this for a friend. He is desparately in need of the above mentioned items. Reply to mail below. Thanks in advance. -- Rich Markle Programmer/Analyst rmarkle@earthlink.net (310)442-8086
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9702190903.AA00410@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 10:03:48 +0100 Subject: Q: Rhapsody interaction with NeXT- and Openstep (or: Will Rhapsody feature NetInfo?) (AppleStep) have NetInfo)? Hi there NeXT and AppleStep - folks, there are tons of question which arise about the new "AppleStep" (Rhapsody), but the most immanent one I have is: Will Steve build NeXT inside of Apple? Just kidding..... 8-) (all of us know he actually does so! (Whoooooow!!!! 8-))))) What I really need to know is: ** question version 0.8 (alpha) ** Can I use a Rhapsody 500Mhz AppleMac as Fileserver for NeXTSTEP / OpenStep clients of all colors (black NeXThardware, Sun Sparc 20s, Intel Boxes w/ Openstep)? or to put it the other way around: ** question version 0.9 (beta) ** Can a NeXT/NEXTSTEP/OpenStep system based on the above mentioned hardware serve a Rhapsody client?? But maybe the best way to ask this question is: ** final coding v1.0 (shipping now!) ** Will "AppleStep" (Rhapsody) feature NetInfo??? Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with AppleSTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news ---
From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: file ownership Date: 18 Feb 1997 17:48:03 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ecq0j$btd@news.acns.nwu.edu> I'm having a problem with file ownership. My root disk / is owned by the system and everything is fine with that. However my second and third scsi disks and all of the files on them keep changing ownership to my account . Example: /dev/sd1a is mounted as /LocalApps and contains all of my Local Applications (logically). This disk and its contents should be owned by the system - root. However when I do: ls -la / |grep LocalApps I get drwxrwxrwt 50 dave 2048 Feb 17 15:45 LocalApps/ Similarly if I do: ls -la /LocalApps |grep SoftPC I get drwxr-xr-x 18 dave 1024 Jan 19 1996 SoftPC.app/ Now what is confusing me is that these files were initially installed by root and if I change ownership of them by doing: chown -R root /LocalApps chown -R root /LocalApps/SoftPC.app and chown root /LocalApps/* chown root /LocalApps/*/* etc.... eventually the damn files return to my ownership. So my questions are: Why does it keep changing ownership? How can I make the ownership sticky (remain root)? What caused this problem, so I can prevent it in the future.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702192059.PAA11031@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 34a1130a62abb6b977f6dba24a44d306 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 15:59:17 -0500 Subject: NeXT's cc (was Re: Java support) Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 34a1130a62abb6b977f6dba24a44d306 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Original Date: 19 Feb 1997 03:47:48 GMT > Personally, I like NeXT's cc for most situations for numerous > reasons. pray tell why? Unquenchably curious TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: 200 Mhz Dell Pentium and NS 3.3 not booting correctly Date: 20 Feb 1997 06:09:30 GMT Organization: Sympatico Distribution: world Message-ID: <5egpqq$28i$1@news1.sympatico.ca> We are having some difficulty getting NS 3.3 to boot properly on a 200 Mhz Dell Pentium with a builtin S3 TrioV+ video chip. Installation was perfect, but if you let the machine do a normal boot, the OS cannot find the video chip. However, if you boot with a "-v" at the boot prompt all is well ( I think ). It seems that 3.3 times out before all the hardware is registered in the OS. BTW, 4.1 is perfect. If anyone has any suggesttions or help please respond by email to the address below. Thanks in advance -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation 1 Eva Road, Suite 301 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Voice: (416) 621-6166 Fax: (416) 621-6212 Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: "steven kornreich" <steve@eps.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Multiple email accounts + PopOver.app+ NeXTMail Date: 20 Feb 1997 07:48:13 GMT Organization: kornreich communications inc. Message-ID: <01bc1f02$6b4aef80$f2d49ace@pro200.papio.com> I have multiple pop mail accounts which I need to check on a daily basis.. Is there a way to use PopOver and NextMail so when I set up multiple PoverOver pop accounts that they all make it into NextMail but sorted into different MailBoxes in NextMail? Thanks Steven Kornreich steve@eps.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: Strange: Main menus nowhere to be seen Message-ID: <E5uxop.61r@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:58:01 GMT In article <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) writes: > For the last several weeks, the main menus of two > applications I use (specifically Mesa and Edit) are > nowhere to be seen whenever I start both applications. > The menus remain hidden the whole time I use these > apps. The only way I am able to see the menu is by > using the right mouse button. Is there any keystroke > that I perchance might have used that caused the main > menus from both apps to remain invisible? How do I > get back these menus? > > Thanks for any help. > > Vicki Bragin > > > -- > ********************************************************** > Victoria M. Bragin > Physical Sciences Division, Pasadena City College > 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA 91106-2003 > Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 > E-mail: (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) > vbragin@nextlab.calstatela.edu > vbragin@ix.netcom.com > vbragin@paccd.cc.ca.us > vbragin@pslc.ucla.edu > ********************************************************** Hi Vicki, a possible solution to your problem could look like this: double-click on the preferences (clock) icon in your dock and open the menu preferences. There you'll see a little screen where the menu position of your application can be changed. Just drag it back into a visible area. Perhaps this helps, Robert. ========================================================================== Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ==========================================================================
From: marsella@alto.isi.edu (Stacy Marsella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sequence.app problem Date: 19 Feb 1997 23:25:46 -0800 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Distribution: world Message-ID: <5egu9q$baj@alto.isi.edu> I am having a problem with Sequence.app v0.9.8 (the version at CCRMA) on a nextstation (nextstep3.2). The eventlist view does not work. When I hilite a partname and select Eventlist from the Part menu nothing happens except the following error message gets displayed in the Console window: Sequence[181]: Assertion failed: loadNIBSection: could not find data Any Suggestions or Clues? Thanks Stacy Marsella
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: C compiler question Date: 20 Feb 1997 15:53:34 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ehs1u$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) wrote: > I am new to NeXT and to UNIX. When I try to use the C compiler >(c++ filename) I get the message "gcc:not found." What does this mean? >Does the GNU C compiler need to be "installed" on a NeXT system with 3.2 >or is it a problem with the path? Please obtain a copy of the NeXT FAQ, which is available from http://www.peanuts.org/. Under NEXTSTEP, gcc is called cc. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 20 Feb 1997 15:59:12 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ehscg$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> David Young <dwy@ace.net> wrote: (snip) >I've been playing with wrapping Kaffe in ObjC and a .app since version >0.5, and it's becoming increasingly more awkward as the sources >define their own Object, Class and Method structures which class with >NS's. Doh. When I run into something like that, I simply #define Object XObject ... in a .h file read by the C/C++ source (or use a -D compiler flag). Does the trick for me. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: screensaver for energy saving monitors Date: 20 Feb 1997 16:05:47 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ehsor$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <tog1yto0xf.fsf@avalon.harvard.edu> Erik Evensen <erik@avalon.harvard.edu> wrote: >I'm wondering if there is a screen saver for NS3.3 on Intel >that supports blanking the screen such that an energy saving >monitor will go into power saving mode. If so, what's it called >and where can I get it? Thanks AFAIK even NeXT's default Screensaver does so (at least it works with my machine), but several pieces of the PC hardware must support it. The monitor must have power saving turned on, and I think it also only worked in 8 bit graphics (I have an ATI m64 card, so YMMV). HTH, C -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: cmoore@cyberport.com (Cmoore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: New user Help questions on UNIX Date: 20 Feb 1997 17:46:11 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Message-ID: <5ei2l3$4g8$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I have a Color station, running version 3.0, While looking at and downloading some files from the archives using my PC, then transferring them to disk to the NeXT. alot of files have a .gz format, i have opener, when i open these files, some are in a .tar, or.pkg or .app and are executable by clicking or opener opens them, like a .tar file. etc...however some .gz files produce what looks like a program listing that give a UNIX terminal icon. these when clicked on load into the editor. when i type the name of it (as in DOS) i get a bunch of error messages. Do these type of files need to be compiled or what is needed to turn it into an executable file. thanks very much.. ..also how do you delete a file in UNIX what is the command like dos's del ?
From: BELA SEFCSIK <sefcsik@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tcl7.6 Installation Date: 20 Feb 1997 19:44:09 GMT Organization: The University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Canada Message-ID: <5ei9i9$60k@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I am trying to setup Tcl7.6 on NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel processor, but it hiccups when it gets to tclUnixFCmd.c file. Can anybody tell me how to get around this problem and maybe give me a step by step procedure to do a successfull installation. If you have a compiled, tarred distribution, I would be glad to use it also. Thanks. Bela Sefcsik sefcsik@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
From: dkramer@bifrostworks.com (Daniel L. Kramer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config v 3.37 Date: 20 Feb 1997 19:31:05 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Message-ID: <5ei8pp$e3t@news.blkbox.com> References: <5e9rrq$dpe@news.next.com> In article <5e9rrq$dpe@news.next.com> tfrey@.next.com (Tony Frey) writes: > Get the newest one from NeXTAnswers. > Is there a mysterious way of which I am not aware to directly download config files? :-). I sent him a copy, but it _would_ be nice if one were somehow able to download floppy images with common drivers necessary for installation already in the proper format. Cheers! Dan > In article <5e54tp$lm2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> > randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) writes: > > I believe I need a newer version of the Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config > than the > > one on the 3.3 installation disks. If anyone hase v 3.37 or later, > could you > > please NeXTMail me a copy? Thank you. > ---------------------------------------------- > Tony Frey tfrey@next.com > NeXT Premium Support http://www.next.com > ---------------------------------------------- -- Daniel L. Kramer Bifrost Workstations, Inc. 10850 Richmond Ave., Suite 270 Houston, TX 77042 (713) 952-9949 voice
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS Feb Quiz - last call (+hints) ! Date: 20 Feb 1997 20:52:55 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5eidj8$5i5@peng.ping.at> Dear NEXTSTEP community, this is the last call for the SSS February quiz on http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/quiz.html If you haven't participated yet, hurry! Deadline is Feb 27. ========= ATTENTION ========= Acc. to the very low number of correct answers so far, this month's quiz question seems to be way more difficult to solve than I've initially thought. So here's these *hints*: 1) The item in question is about the smallest one in the given picture - besides the grass and the sand, of course. 2) The item in question is close to invisible in the given picture. But everyone who has ever had to do anything with photography and/or image manipulation apps will know at first sight how to restore the given picture to the original version. The winners - as always drawn by my nieces - will receive a free HelpViewer or LatinByrd license! Or alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software (including SuperDraw, SuperDebugger, and others). Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: file ownership Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:12:33 GMT Organization: data communication and networking services Distribution: world Message-ID: <5egff1$btg@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <5ecq0j$btd@news.acns.nwu.edu> dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote: : I'm having a problem with file ownership. : My root disk / is owned by the system and everything is fine with that. : However my second and third scsi disks and all of the files on them keep changing ownership to my account . : This is because the file system on the second and third drives are mounted at the time you logged in. The WorkspaceManager sets the owner to the user logged in at the time. To solve your problem, you need to set the file systems to be mounted at the time of booting up. This can be done by adding entries in the file /etc/fstab like /dev/sd2a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota noauto 0 1 (this is my fstab entry, my /Users directory is on a seprate disk) where the /dev/sdXa and /"MountPoint" should be changed to match your configuration. Look at "fstab" man page for more helps. !!Caution!! A mistake can cause the machine to be unbootable! Edit /etc/fstab file carefully! Enjoy! -- Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: american@mail.tds.net (Charles C. Hocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trying to toss my Cookies -- OmniWeb style Date: 20 Feb 1997 21:56:09 GMT Organization: TDS Telecom - Madison, WI Message-ID: <5eih9p$2ar@news2.tds.net> Hello everyone, Does anyone know of away to disable Cookies in OmniWeb? I researched their website listserv archive and could not find an answer. I have tried to link /dev/null to the Cookies file with no luck. Other then dumping the Cookies from the cookie jar every time, I cannot think of away to rid myself gosh awful fatting Cookies that keep filling up my cookie jar. ;^) Charles -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Charles C. Hocker american@Mail.TDS.Net ASCII, MIME & NeXTmail american@aztec.asu.edu "Food is Power. We use it to change behavior. Some May Call that Bribery. We Do Not Apologize." Catherine Bertini, executive director, UN World Food Program, Beijing, China, UN 4th World Conference on Women, Sept. 1995. ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Ted Erck" <terck@invensys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IntegraView - Software to manage NEXTSTEP network computers and the applications they execute Date: 20 Feb 1997 22:28:39 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <01bc1f7c$f405ae30$54a720cc@eagle> InvenSys Ltd. of Houston, Texas would like to introduce to you a product specifically designed to manage NEXTSTEP network computers and the applications they execute with unprecedented ease. IntegraView allows you to proactively prevent network disasters by monitoring critical system resources, ( CPU load, disk space, etc. ). Through its easy click and drag capabilities you will be able to remotely reboot machines, automatically restore critical processes and launch processes. We invite you to visit our Invensys web page at http://www.invensys.com for your FREE demo download.
From: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace trouble Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:37:06 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5eggt2$ofl@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970218151645.17600B-100000@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.970218151645.17600B-100000@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> Jickmeister <stwillis@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> writes: > Howdy, > I recently purchased a NextStation mono 8/105 running NS 3.2. I > came across the screensaver package BackSpace last night, and installed > it in my user account, and everything seemed to work fine. However, when > I tried to add modules (SpewView, Polyfrog, etc.) from the same ftp site > (next.peak.org), I kept getting errors of "Couldn't load dynamic class" > or something of that nature. The program recognized that the modules > existed, as I had placed them in the correct directory under library > (BackSpaceViews), but would not load any one of them. > If anyone has any idea as to why this is happening, and/or knows > how to fix it, I would be greatly obliged if you would share such > information. Thanks for your time. > > sean Probably because they're compiled only for Intel. Do the modules delivered with BackSpace run? __Pascal Bourguignon__
From: Erik Evensen <erik@avalon.harvard.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: screensaver for energy saving monitors Date: 20 Feb 1997 17:16:30 -0500 Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Message-ID: <tobu9fgm2p.fsf@avalon.harvard.edu> References: <tog1yto0xf.fsf@avalon.harvard.edu> <5ehsor$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> writes: > > Erik Evensen <erik@avalon.harvard.edu> wrote: > >I'm wondering if there is a screen saver for NS3.3 on Intel > >that supports blanking the screen such that an energy saving > >monitor will go into power saving mode. If so, what's it called > >and where can I get it? Thanks > > AFAIK even NeXT's default Screensaver does so (at least it > works with my machine), but several pieces of the PC hardware > must support it. The monitor must have power saving turned on, > and I think it also only worked in 8 bit graphics (I have an > ATI m64 card, so YMMV). > Hi, Thanks for the response. Someone else suggested BackSpace set to black. So far as I can tell neither of these is working for me. The monitor definitely is doing powersaving 'cuz it'll do it when I power down the CPU. I am set at 16bit color so I'll try changing that and see what happens. --erik
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax software on NeXT Date: 20 Feb 1997 21:32:14 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <5eifsu$6c5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <1997Jan10.191542.2125@gamelan.shnet.org> <5ef2nk$26e@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> >thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke) wrote: >> >>I'm looking for a way to send faxes from my cube (NS3.2) and my USR >Sportster >>modem. The sportster is not supported by NXFax ! >> >>Did someone manage mgetty+sendfax running/compiling ? Any preconfigured >>bundle somewhere for download ? If you follow the instructions in docs/mgetty.texi, mgetty-1.x compiles nicely with NEXTSTEP. Ok, I forgot to write about using "make noident", but that's really all. Working, well, ... I haven't tried to send faxes lately, but there was a time when that worked for me (you may also have a look at Kevin Peckover's ps2g3 frontend on peanuts, or my attempt to adopt it to mgetty-1.x, in ftp://zarquon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/pub/NeXT/testing). Receiving faxes should work also, but is not integrated into the NEXTSTEP fax system. About vgetty, I don't know. It's still very in flux. A compiled package... well, perhaps I should try to do that, but compiling is really not that hard. Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | | flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | | PGP Key fingerprint = 23 8F B3 38 A3 39 A6 01 5B 99 91 D6 F2 AC CD C7 |
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: latex for OS 4.1? Date: 20 Feb 1997 21:32:22 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <5eift6$6c5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <5d9pjb$oek@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <5dd0b9$4fj@crcnis3.unl.edu> <5dnnjq$1tbn@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> On 10 Feb 1997 17:58:18 GMT, Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> wrote: >Certainly not.. but that was not the case, at least not with the >tar file and instruction set _I_ had. > >And no, tetex is not available as a pkg, either. It would be great >if somebody could build one! When I tried tetex installation two >weeks ago, it came with an install routine, which printed a >cryptic error message during some intermediate step, and simply >terminated without giving any useful hints as to what might have >been wrong. Now tetex might be a very nice piece of software, but >that is certainly not the comfortable, simple installation that >Nextstep users are normally used to. > >So, if some kind sould has tetex running, and knows the incantations >required to build a package, I'm sure it would be appreciated by >many Nextstep users. Pay me for it, and I'll do a package! ;-) Just a joke. I thought about distributing a teTeX.pkg, but for myself decided that a pkg had so many drawbacks that it won't be worth the effort. teTeX's installation process is indeed very straightforward and is intended to be really--sorry--idiot proof. If it crashed for you, it's probably my fault by failing to list some prerequisites for NEXTSTEP. And yes, the documentation _is_ complete, but a concise QUICKSTART section would be nice. The problem with packaging teTeX in an Installer pkg is that quite a few goodies of teTeX's installation scheme are hard to map on pkg's (selective installation of packages, heterogeneous network installations, etc.). teTeX installation routine _is_ stable and tested and _is_ easy to use. Nevertheless, it's flexible enough to serve novices as well as sysadmins. teTeX is regularly updated. `Minor' updates are distributed as shell scripts; installing an update is nothing more than starting the script (how do you map this with pkg's ?). Like the installation process, configuration is done with a menu-driven script. Configuration does include things like setting up hyphenation tables for languages (ever tried to setup LaTeX and swedish with NeXTTeX ?), default paper formats etc.pp. a) Simply packaging the stuff into one big pkg archive won't unburden the user of running interactively through some of the configuration stuff. In the case of updates, the user had to re-fetch a new big archive, and install it from scratch. Doing this kind of pkg won't be big work for me, but are you sure this is what you want ? Imagine refetching 10MB every three months, having to reconfigure the stuff from scratch. NeXTTeX didn't face this problem, since there never was any update. b) IMHO, if you want to provide a pkg distribution based upon teTeX, the most important thing would be to write a TeXconfig.app that replaces texconfig. Then, distribute the stuff in separate packages (teTeXbase, teTeXgoodies etc.pp.) and come up with a decent way to distribute the updates. Only then, the user could setup teTeX without using the shell. But then, this is work. And it has way to go to be as stable as Thomas' scripts. And you had to hope that there's always somebody that keeps the packages in sync with teTeX. Anyway, I'm really glad to discuss this stuff, and if enough people tell me that they are glad with Plan a) and that's all they want, I'll gladly prepare such a package. What I wrote above is just my own, certainly biased impression. Furthermore, if you have any problems with the installations, please tell me (even if you managed to solve them on your own). I hope I could talk Thomas into including a README.NEXTSTEP that contains a QUICKSTART section. Installation is really not that hard. Hmm, Christian, could you tell me when the install.sh script failed, which system you were running on etc ? teTeX 0.6 is not far away ;-) Gregor PS: As mentioned in teTeX-FAQ Q.22, http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX contains information about TeX (esp. teTeX) for NEXTSTEP, including pointers to the most recent releases of teTeX and TeXview for teTeX. -- | Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | | flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | | PGP Key fingerprint = 23 8F B3 38 A3 39 A6 01 5B 99 91 D6 F2 AC CD C7 |
From: kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: www browser with frames besides OmniWeb Date: 19 Feb 1997 16:41:36 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5efag0$91f@gaea.titan.org> References: <5edgdl$l2p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <5ef7c9$p9d@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe (uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de) wrote: : root@sambo.uiuc.edu (Operator) wrote: : > I have a Cyrix based motherboard and as such cannot use OmniWeb. : Ooops!?! What has the processor to do with OmniWeb??? Nothing, really. OmniWeb itself has no knowledge of what processor type it's using (the same source runs on 4 architectures, after all), so there's nothing that OmniWeb is doing which would crash a Cyrix processor and not an Intel--other than as a side effect of exercising more of the NEXTSTEP operating system than other applications do. It appears that this is either a bug in the Cyrix processor (in that they're clearly not exactly compatible with the Intel 486, Pentium, and Pentium Pro processors which do work fine), or possibly in NEXTSTEP (depending on whether NeXT claims to support the Cyrix processor--as far as I know, they only support genuine Intel processors). I suspect that the Cyrix incompatibility is somewhere in the NEXTSTEP kernel's thread support. OmniWeb 2 is (as far as I know) the only commercial heavily-threaded application, which would explain why Cyrix users are not having trouble with other applications. (I believe Digital Librarian and DarkForest also make some light use of multiple threads, Cyrix users might try exercising them to see whether they also have problems.) Assuming this is in fact the problem, the only thing we could do in OmniWeb 2 to solve this problem is to stop using threads, which I'm afraid isn't really an option for us. (Cyrix users can always use OmniWeb 1.0, of course, which isn't multi-threaded and apparently runs great.) If I were owned a Cyrix CPU, I'd either contact NeXT (to see if they want to solve this problem by modifying their kernel) or Cyrix (to complain that their CPUs aren't 100% compatible). -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: C compiler question Date: 21 Feb 1997 00:11:12 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5eip70$hhv$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> <E5syDH.2LE@onevision.de> Cc: robert@onevision.de In <E5syDH.2LE@onevision.de> Robert Wunderer wrote: > In article <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris > Christensen) writes: > > Greetings, > > > > I am new to NeXT and to UNIX. When I try to use the C compiler > > (c++ filename) I get the message "gcc:not found." What does this mean? > > Does the GNU C compiler need to be "installed" on a NeXT system with 3.2 > > or is it a problem with the path? > > > > Thank you for any help. > > > > > > Chris > > <cchris@hooked.net> > > Hi Chris, > > do you have the Nextstep developer packages installed (correctly)? > more importantly, did you try looking for cc instead of gcc? Even though NeXT's compiler is gcc based, they call it "gcc" for historical reasons. (Also, you can go out and get a newer edition of gcc if you want, and install it as gcc). -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tom@icgned.nl (Tom Hageman) Subject: Re: Launching windows w/ different color depths? Message-ID: <E5uywB.xL@icgned.nl> Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: IC Group References: <5e7tcd$78f@juliana.sprynet.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:24:11 GMT dayne@excell.com (Dayne Miller) wrote: >I know that NEXTSTEP supports this, but how? For instance, I usually >run in 16-bit mode, but I'd love to have some OmniWeb windows open in >8-bit mode so I can determine if my graphics and colors will look when >dithered down that far. In a Terminal window: dwrite OmniWeb NXWindowDepthLimit EightBitGray ...and restart OmniWeb. Or, directly: <wherever>/OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb -NXWindowDepthLimit EightBitGray & (This and other information about generally available defaults, can be found in /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/GeneralRef/_ApB_Defaults/Defaults.rtf, which is probably only present on a developer system...) [There used to be a WindowDepth.preferences module to handle this window depth stuff a while back, but last time I looked I could not find it on the next ftp archives. Email to the author's address, as given in the panel, bounces (His name eludes me at the moment since I only have itat home). So basically I'm still looking for a MAB (at least NI) version...] -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "Any magic sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable __/ _/_/ from a perl script" -- Larry Wall, mangled
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mirko@next.procom.it> Message-ID: <199702202042.VAA00234@next.procom.it> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Mirko Viviani <mirko@procom.it> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 21:42:00 +0100 Subject: NS colors... Ciao... It's possible to change the background and the text color of the documents in Edit.app ? (dev mode, ascii file) After a not so long period of time this high contrast blow my eyes !! :(( BTW: I'm using NS3.3 --- Bye, Mirko <mirko@procom.it> (NeXTmail, MIME)
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.emacs.xemacs Subject: Xemacs compilation problem Date: 19 Feb 1997 22:56:35 GMT Organization: data communication and networking services Message-ID: <slrn5gn0ed.aqd.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> In my question to get an emacs which will font-lock in a NeXT terminal windows, I'm almost there. I am compiling with -with-x=no and fixed a trivial problem with xemacs looking for termio.h when there was only termios.h to be had, and now I'm almost there. However, one of the final linking stages pukes looking for ___morecore, which appears to be something internal to gnu malloc (NeXT's malloc is used instead). (I also removed an extraneous linker flag.) any pointers? It seems that XEmacs was actually compiled for NeXT once upon a time, but I can't find it anywhere. The 19.13 source on informatik doesn't build. Thanks for any help, Paul Brown -- _____________________________________________________________________ Paul Brown Grad student, UCB mathematics (510)-843-7817 pbrown@math.berkeley.edu http://math.berkeley.edu/~pbrown/ NeXTmail preferred. _____________________________________________________________________
From: "Sean Hafeez" <hafeez@adnc.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SMTP + X Sessions Date: 19 Feb 1997 22:25:15 GMT Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <01bc1eb3$5a9dc6c0$238ad8cd@thanatos.adnc.net> To quick questions: Can someone point me to a SMTP/POP GUI email client for NS3.3 Intel and also a X Session client - I have a SGI box that I want to run a X Session off of. Sean Hafeez American Digital Network
From: marsella@alto.isi.edu (Stacy Marsella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems with Sequence.app midi sequencer Date: 20 Feb 1997 19:43:10 -0800 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ej5ke$d58@alto.isi.edu> I am having a problem with Sequence.app v0.9.8 (the version at CCRMA) on a nextstation (nextstep3.2). The eventlist view does not work. When I hilite a partname and select Eventlist from the Part menu nothing happens except the following error message gets displayed in the Console window: Sequence[181]: Assertion failed: loadNIBSection: could not find data Any Suggestions or Clues? Thanks Stacy Marsella PS: My apologies if you received this message twice. I am struggling with a new news posting program.
From: waiming@cs.ust.hk (Chan Wai Ming) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: anyone who is using Dial On Demand with GateKeeper Date: 20 Feb 1997 01:13:48 GMT Organization: The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Message-ID: <5eg8gc$s87@ustsu10.ust.hk> References: <5ea691$gfj@ustsu10.ust.hk> <5eag17$iij@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> Hi Felipe, Thanks for responding to my problem. I have checked with the mail queue and its empty. When I replace the "named" in 2.1b5 with the named in 1.0a. Everyting (including DoD) is working fine for me. Just don't know why this happens :p Now, my configuration is OS/Mach/Intel + Gatekeeper 2.1b5 + named(included in Gatekeeper 1.0a). Thank you for writing Gatekeeper ! Really like the 2.1 ver. :) yours waiming Felipe A. Rodriguez (far@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : >Hi, : > : >I'm also having trouble with DoD in GateKeeper 2.1 b5. My problem is that : >it is always triggered to have a PPP connection even if I don't use any : >network prog. : > : >Any hints for me to setup Dod ??? : > : You probably have undelivered mail in the queue. The queue is : processed at regular intervals, if there is undelivered mail : sendmail will trigger a dial on demand session as it attempts : to deliver the mail. : The minor mods that I made to the named daemon do not filter : lookups so any name lookup for which the local nameserver is not : authoritative will trigger a dial on demand session. : >Thanks a lot ! : > : >yours : >-- : > After working with DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux, SunOS, NT, 95 .... : > / / / I find myself like NEXTSTEP most. : > \ \ \ : > ------ It is tea, not Java :) A Happy NS user : > \____/> waiming@cs.ust.hk : -- : Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from : Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was : # armed; his successors, since they avoided : far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private : (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. : (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli -- -- After working with DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux, SunOS, NT, 95 .... / / / I find myself like NEXTSTEP most. \ \ \ ------ It is tea, not Java :) A Happy NS user \____/> waiming@cs.ust.hk
From: Stacy Marsella <marsella@isi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: confused about bundles Re: Sequence.app problems Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:13:56 -0800 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Message-ID: <330DD7D4.6EBA@isi.edu> References: <5ej5ke$d58@alto.isi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bundle experts, riddle me this.. Stacy Marsella wrote: > > I am having a problem with Sequence.app v0.9.8 (the version at CCRMA) > on a nextstation (nextstep3.2). The eventlist view does not work. > When I hilite a partname and select Eventlist from the Part menu > nothing happens except the following error message gets displayed in > the Console window: > Sequence[181]: Assertion failed: loadNIBSection: could not find data > > Any Suggestions or Clues? ... > Stacy Marsella I seem to have fixed this problem. It turns out EventList is a bundle and in the EventList.bundle subdirectory is its nib subdir, EventList.nib. Well I created a link to EventList.nib in the main directory of Sequence.app and now it is working. My question is why is it working? Do bundles have default areas in the app subdir where they are willing to look and for some reason loading on my machine is not looking there? Could there be absolute paths in the EventList code (I looked in the binary and didn't find any but I may have missed it)? Thanks, Stacy marsella@isi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: NeXTSTEP PostScript compatibility Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <970221114319.208AAFcH.magnus@darwin> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:43:19 GMT My colleagues using Solaris/SunOS have had problems printing .ps/.eps files that I have generated under NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. Their systems administrator claims that the problem is that the NeXTSTEP printing engine generates PostScript that is not 100% compatible with standard Adobe PostScript, and advises me to look for ways to turn off "NeXTSTEP extensions" when generating the files. Does anyone have any experience with this? Is there anything I can do to work around the problems? -Magnus
From: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Talk between Linux and NeXT impossible? Date: 20 Feb 1997 16:53:26 +0100 Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Message-ID: <we6k9o3mq2x.fsf@Cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> References: <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <5ef1va$9tc$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> [talk linux-nextstep] just works here (with or without ytalk). perhaps further details should be posted. Ciao, Stephan -- Task: System Administration Unix (HP-UX, Linux, FreeBSD) Email: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Mail: Abt. 081, MPI bpC, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel: +49 551 201 1 454
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Talk between Linux and NeXT impossible? Date: 20 Feb 1997 22:40:38 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <5eijt6$8eb@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <5ef1va$9tc$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) wrote: >In article <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>, > scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) writes: > >> I'm currently in a mixed network with Linux, and NS machines. However I'm not >> able to use the 'talk' command between those machines. It seems as if there >> are different used protocols. >> >> Did anybody else experience this and is there a talkd replacement or >> something else? What to do? > >You might want to try "ytalk" which has some improvements over >other talks. ;-) I already tried 'ytalk'. No help. There is some problem. The Linux machines are using the latest Linux release and I'm using OpenStep 4.1. It simply doesn't work. Any further ideas? Can I just e.g. compile the Linux sources? Any experiences? I don't want to fiddle with deamons too much ... The talk command stucks waiting for invitation on the callers machine ... Thanks in advance, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de)
From: awang@plains.nodak.edu (Andy Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: question about news stuff Date: 20 Feb 1997 14:40:05 -0600 Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network (NDHECN) Message-ID: <5eicr5$qph@plains.nodak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, it appears that NDSU will be allowing posting to news groups over dialup lines next week. yay!!. anyway. I have a question about this. RadicalNews has an preferences option for a program to use to post. it's set to /bin/inews -h by default. can anybody recommend a decent package which has inews that can be used with RadicalNews for posting? Thanks Andy -- ------------------ Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT, MIME or SUN mail OK -------------- - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - - What the hell is a chicken? - http://www.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - -------------------------- awang@plains.nodak.edu -----------------------------
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next shareware/freeware-- where? Date: 20 Feb 1997 16:01:53 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ehshh$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5eadum$goj@park.interport.net> humanist@interport.net (Michael Howard) wrote: >Where can one find good Next-intel-3.30 shareware/freeware? www.peanuts.org. NeXT really should put an easy to find pointer to the FAQ on their Web site. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 19 Feb 1997 23:42:52 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970219225701.RAA08071@ladder02.news.aol.com> I have a NeXTstation 8/105, ADB, NS 3.0, and there seems to be a strange thing happening occasionally when I boot the machine. The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: sc: scintr program error the machine then starts up as normal. This doesn't affect the performance at all, I'm just curious what's going on. TIA, Joe Gidi
From: sugawara@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: modem terminal application Date: 22 Feb 1997 08:01:46 GMT Organization: Edmonton FreeNet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Message-ID: <5em95a$cfm$1@news.sas.ab.ca> References: <3306A857.58A2@uiuc.edu> <5eaode$178@news-central.tiac.net> Aleksey Sudakov (zander@conextions.com) wrote: : Brandon Cue <bcue@uiuc.edu> wrote: : >I was wondering if there is a good modem app to dial into to my isp so : >that I can download ppp and other goodies and get my box connected to : >the internet. Any suggestions???? : Ain't tip good enough for you? I use kermit with the following ".kermrc" script: -------------------------------------------------------------------- set line /dev/cufa set speed 38400 set modem hayes ask \%n Number to dial? dial \%n :loop if SUCCESS goto connect redial goto loop :connect connect --------------------------------------------------------------------- This script assumes your modem is connected to serial port A, and that you need to lock the port to 38400. To transfer files, I have the following alias: alias zget 'rz -eb </dev/cufa >/dev/cufa ; fg ' I suspend kermit by typing in CRTL-] then CRTL-Z, type in "zget" off the command line, and the file transfer takes place, and returns you to kermit when the transfer completes. It's not the most elegant solution, but it's quick and easy to implement. I hope this helps. -- /**************************************************************************/ Masahiko (Sam) Sugawara email: sugawara@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
From: richard@seuss.math.wright.edu (Richard Mercer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which X server? Date: 20 Feb 1997 15:53:56 GMT Organization: Wright State University Message-ID: <5ehs2k$q5p@mercury.wright.edu> References: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> Cc: willi@marvin.aaa-plus.com In <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> Wilhelm Pitzeier wrote: > > There seem to be two commercial products (co-Xist and CubXWindow) as well > as two shareware packages (Xnext and MouseX). > > Please email any experiences to me, I will post a summary of all replies. > > Willi > > Does any know for a fact that either of the two commercial products is still available? If so, can you point to somewhere where it can be purchased? All my old links to these products are nonfunctional. -- Richard Mercer richard@seuss.math.wright.edu "I meant what I said and I said what I meant, An elephant's faithful, one hundred per cent."
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 20 Feb 1997 23:49:42 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5einum$ns6$2@darla.visi.com> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5ehscg$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> wrote: > When I run into something like that, I simply > #define Object XObject > ... > in a .h file read by the C/C++ source (or use a -D compiler > flag). Does the trick for me. It's not a linker clash. If I did: #define Object XObject #import <objc/Object.h> Would that work? Eh, I just did a global search and replace on the code, but.. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: fucuco@hamlet.net (Good Friend) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:30:13 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.330d7930.6000913@news.uoknor.edu> Subject: cmsg cancel <330d7930.6000913@news.uoknor.edu> Control: cancel <330d7930.6000913@news.uoknor.edu> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Fri Feb 21 15:14:41 1997 Original subject was: Learn to Make $$$FAST CASH$$$ With Honest Work
From: jbn@pop-a-wheelie.midwest.net (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Subject: GNKSA/U review of RadicalNews v0.8.10 Beta Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs Followup-To: news.software.readers Summary: RadicalNews v0.8.10 Beta fails to meet the GNKSA/U requirements. Message-ID: <slrn5gqei1.1c7.jbn@pop-a-wheelie.midwest.net> Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.sys.next.software Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:01:46 -0600 RadicalNews v0.8.10 Beta, a GUI newsreader for NeXTSTEP, FAILS to meet the requirements for the Good Net-Keeping Seal of Approval for Usenet software. RadicalNews information is available from http://www.radical.com. The following pertains to RadicalNews version 0.8.10 Beta. There are a number of significant problems with RadicalNews, to list them all would take far too much space. Suffice it to say, I can not recommend this software for public use at this time. I make no exception regarding reviewing publicly accessible beta software; if the developers did not intend for this application to be critiqued, they should not have released the software to the public. RadicalNews' problems range from annoying to dangerous. The problems include: * Obviously bogus From: and Reply-To: headers are accepted without question. [See point 11 of the GNKSA/U evaluation and footnote 10] * Automatic (timed) polling for new news is an unnecessary drain on NNTP server resources. It is wholly unnecessary in newsreading software intended for use by humans. * No automatic probing for efficient overview commands. * The app crashes frequently (making this review difficult). * A number of necessary menu items are no-ops. * RadicalNews features a Usenet thread display that does not track Subject: header changes. This nullifies the work of posters who put the effort into making sure the Subject: header remains faithful to the actual subject of the post. * RadicalNews is single-threaded. All article gathering makes the user wait. * There is no article cache. Re-downloading articles means downloading them from the news server. * It is easy to lose work due to poor UI feedback. RadicalNews lets the user close windows or quit without saving unsaved work. * It is easy for the user to accidentally make RadicalNews very busy gathering unread article counts, in effect monopolizing the application due to the aforementioned single-threadedness. * There are a number of unusual and broken UI implementations in RadicalNews which make for haphazard and slow newsreading. * There are various problems involving automatic reconnect after the NNTP server disconnects due to timeout. Required? Item Description OK? Notes --------- ---- ----------------------------------- --- ----- YES 1 Display all essential header info NO YES Default is to display: NO YES a) author of article (From:) YES YES b) the first 70 chars of Subject: YES (1) YES c) full listing of posted groups YES YES d) article's Followup-To: list YES YES e) article's Reply-To: NO YES 2 Provide standard commands YES YES Provide clear commands YES YES Provide separate commands YES YES a) post a new article YES YES b) post a followup article YES YES c) reply by email YES NO Use standard terminology YES (2) YES 3 Implement cross-posting YES YES a) allow user specification YES YES b) cross-post not multi-post YES YES 4 Change essential headers YES (3) YES change headers while editing body YES YES change Subject YES YES allow at least 70 chars in subject YES YES change Newsgroups YES YES change Followup-To YES YES allow Followup-to: poster YES YES change Reply-To YES YES 5 Correct Subject headers in followup/reply YES (4) YES a) prepend Re: YES YES b) preserve entire Subject even subjects > 80 chars long YES YES 6 Respect Followup-To: NO YES use to initialize Newsgroups: in followup YES (5) YES recognize and act on `poster' NO YES 7 Followups contain References YES (6) YES contains message-id of original YES YES never truncate individual message-id YES NO contains three Refs from original YES NO contains entire Refs of original YES YES 8 Direct email reply to Reply-To NO (7) YES 9 Quotation and attribution YES YES a) provide method YES YES b) set off by prepend YES YES c) attribution line YES YES identifies author YES NO gives message-id YES YES 10 Subject is mandatory NO (8) YES a) do not post empty or provide <none> NO (9) YES allow change while editing body YES YES 11 Must provide valid From: header NO (10) YES a) syntactically valid NO YES b) disallows posting without valid info NO NO c) belongs to the user NO YES 12 Must provide cancel NO YES a) of own articles NO (11) YES b) *not* of others ? (11) NO 13 Respect line length & post WYSIWYG NO (12) NO a) line brks shown are present in post YES NO b) do not post paragraph w/o line brks YES (13) NO c) warn if body has lines > 80 chars NO (14) NO d) external editor conforms NO (12) NO 14 Prevent obvious errors NO (15) NO a) prevent posting empty article NO NO b) prevent posting only quoted text NO (1) RadicalNews can use a proportional font to show the Subject: header. How much of that header is shown depends on the width of the viewing window and the width of the rendered subject. In this review, reasonable values were chosen -- Helvetica Bold 12 point. 74 characters of a very long Subject: header were seen with the default window width. (2) Although this terminology was not mentioned in the GNKSA/U spec and is not as important as the spec's examples, RadicalNews does employ some obscure shortcuts for the following headers: References: ("Refs"), Expires: ("Xpire"), Message-ID: ("Msg ID"), Followup-To: ("Follow"), X-Newsreader: ("Reader", making this X-header look like an RFC-approved header, which it is not) and what I assume is Received: (shortened to "Rcvd"; what this header is doing in the UI is a mystery). All other headers are grouped in the UI as "Other" which is a scrollable list. (3) Custom headers (such as X-no-archive: yes) can not be added during post or followup and apparently there is no method for including static custom headers in the application preferences. (4) In fact, RadicalNews includes the CC: line (not an NNTP header) in the post if you "followup and reply" (i.e., forward a copy of the article via e-mail as well as post). I don't find this CC: notification particularly useful in the post, but it does not violate the GNKSA/U spec. I do find it useful that e-mail "courtesy" copies include a note indicating the article was also posted (and the groups to which it was posted). (5) In fact, RadicalNews does this blindly; if "Followup-To: poster" is set in an article, RadicalNews attempts to followup to that article with "Newsgroups: poster". (6) Fortunately, RadicalNews keeps the References: header pristine, recording the Message-IDs perfectly. Unfortunately, the UI doesn't wrap the display of the References: header, so the user is likely to only see 2-3 Message-IDs. (7) RadicalNews doesn't use the Reply-To: content and fall back on the From: content. Instead, it uses From: all the time. (8) RadicalNews had a problem with a test article posted during GNKSA/U evaluation. The subject appeared fine in the header view but the thread view listed the subject as "<NO SUBJECT>". (9) RadicalNews posts articles with a one-space Subject: header (i.e., "Subject: ", note the two blanks after the colon). Any header that is all whitespace should be considered empty. (10) RadicalNews posts articles with obviously invalid From: headers (such as "x" or the null string). Apparently RadicalNews performs no reasonable testing on such headers. (11) RadicalNews will not cancel articles posted with other newsreaders, even if the headers on the articles clearly match the From: header configuration. I couldn't find another article posted with RadicalNews in a local unpropagated test group, so it remains unknown to me whether RadicalNews will cancel other people's RadicalNews articles when the From: header configuration matches the From: header in the article. This unknown does not affect the GNKSA/U evaluation, because RadicalNews failed point 12a. (12) RadicalNews uses an internal editor. It has full control over how that editor wraps the article before it is posted, therefore one expects RadicalNews to be able to alert the reader on items 13, 13c and 13d. (13) RadicalNews needlessly adds two carriage returns to the end of every post. On followups, RadicalNews places the cursor just after the last quote mark, which can make the first line of original text appear quoted (if the user is not careful): > This is original material although it looks quoted. This is how the the second to last lines appear (unquoted). Also, RadicalNews will post articles containing only quoted data. (14) Without warning, RadicalNews word wraps all input which precludes posting articles exceeding 80 characters per line (with the default setting). RadicalNews accepts any wrap margin without warning (even wrap margins beyond 80 characters). Followups quoting long lines are not rewrapped and quoted according to the current wrap margin setting; long lines remain long. During testing, the requoting mechanism caused the app to crash. (15) RadicalNews offers a dangerous option if a posting is rejected by the NNTP server -- "Abort program". Pressing this button shuts down RadicalNews instantly, losing all work in progress in all RadicalNews windows.
From: "Jan van Die" <janvdie@box.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT-desktop Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:35:27 +0200 Organization: Uitgeverij Divo Message-ID: <janvdie-2202971735270001@elmer.box.nl> Please let me introduce myself. My name is Jan van Die and I work for a small Macintosh magazine in Holland, called MacFan. I am looking for some screenshots of the NeXT-desktop (windows, icons) to illustrate a story about Steve Jobs coming back to Apple. Can you help? To make things worse: We are finishing the magazine tomorrow. A quick response would be highly appreciated. janvdie@box.nl Ofcourse I will send you the magazine. That 's a collectors item, isn't it?
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP PostScript compatibility Date: 21 Feb 1997 20:15:12 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5ekvog$b7s@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <970221114319.208AAFcH.magnus@darwin> Cc: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu In <970221114319.208AAFcH.magnus@darwin> Magnus Nordborg wrote: > My colleagues using Solaris/SunOS have had problems printing .ps/.eps files > that I have generated under NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. Their systems administrator > claims that the problem is that the NeXTSTEP printing engine generates > PostScript that is not 100% compatible with standard Adobe PostScript, and > advises me to look for ways to turn off "NeXTSTEP extensions" when > generating the files. > > Does anyone have any experience with this? Is there anything I can do to > work around the problems? > > -Magnus > This is not true. Save your PS file as 'normal, device independent PostScript' using the print panel, and they should work on most any output device or use the PPD for your desired printer. To verify conformance of your PS files you can use 'pscheck' as available from my homepage. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: Mathematica 2.2 Date: 22 Feb 1997 20:40:53 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5enlkl$q5v@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Keywords: mathematica wtb : mathematica 2.2 academic version. please contact me thro' e-mail. thanks, hs
From: buckley4@mail.idt.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: registering with the New York Times via OmniWeb Date: 23 Feb 1997 01:50:59 GMT Organization: IDT Message-ID: <5eo7q3$oj5@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> Has anyone else had trouble registering with the NYT online? (http://www.nytimes.com/) Using OmniWeb 2.5b2 I get repeated authentication windows without any progress in the authentication process. Probably a glich on their end (seems to spawn two authentication processes at the outset). -- _________________________________________ Paul Buckley 515 W 59th St., Apt. 22K New York, NY 10019 E-mail: buckley4@mail.idt.net Tel/Fax: 212-333-3382 _________________________________________ Nuclear weapons are inherently dangerous, highly expensive, militarily inefficient, and morally indefensible General Lee Butler, who would not be quoted in The Times
From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: (Repost) Shared object libraries (rld) using OpenStep 4.1 Date: 21 Feb 1997 23:07:38 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Message-ID: <5el9rq$21v@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> References: <5ef797$m78@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> OpenStep 4.1 for Mach question: Some C code I'm compiling and putting into a shared object library (via ld -r) for later dynamic loading (using rld) is now refusing to be loaded. I've begged and pleaded, but to no avail. The error I'm now getting is something like "cannot use rld with dynamic shared libraries." Since all the "standard" libraries (e.g., libsys_s.dylib) are now dynamic shared libraries, are the rld routines no longer usable? I can switch to use dyld routines and use libtool--is this what I should do? Can someone point to some documentation (man pages aren't telling the complete story) that discusses rld routines under OpenStep 4.1? Also, I noticed that we can no longer build static executables, since there are no static "standard" libraries. Try compiling the "Hello, world" program using the -static compile/link switch. -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com -- Software consulting (Perl, C, Python, ...), ghost@ghost.neosoft.com -- (see: http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/5857.html)
From: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: screensaver for energy saving monitors Date: Fri, 21 Feb 97 08:58:06 Organization: IBM Zurich Research Laboratory Message-ID: <5ejkis$19i6@grimsel.zurich.ibm.com> References: <tog1yto0xf.fsf@avalon.harvard.edu> <5ehsor$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> No, it has nothing to do with the res/color-deepth. This feature works also with 8Meg Mill. in 32b/pix. No problem at all. The only task is to enable the stuff in the BIOS *and* under NeXTStep. You have to take care that *only* the screen saver works not the whole bunch of energy saving utilities. If You enable all, the computer is freezed after your defined time and do nothing, saving 10Watts more in my case (And dissipate the remaining 70Watts for buzzzzzzzz...ing). I think this is something that makes no sense for a UNIX machine. Henry
From: recurve@resourceful.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: talk and ytalk hiccups Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 03:48:08 GMT Organization: Rosenzweig Investments Message-ID: <E61EK8.An@xombi.wizard.net> I get the following: xombi.wizard.net> talk ginger talk: xombi.wizard.net: Can't figure out network address. xombi.wizard.net> ytalk ginger new_user: bad host: 'xombi.wizard.net': (no system error) xombi.wizard.net> I'm using Terminal.app, any suggestions? --- Son of Ginger and Harry, Aaron Rosenzweig http://www.wam.umd.edu/~recurve/ recurve@resourceful.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702211804.NAA09328@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 97 13:04:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Multiple email accounts + PopOver.app+ NeXTMail Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: "steven kornreich" <steve@eps.com> Original Date: 20 Feb 1997 07:48:13 GMT Message-ID: d23d31ae5e7a0d84181955bcf2bf82ee - > I have multiple pop mail accounts which I need to check on a daily > basis.. Is there a way to use PopOver and NextMail so when I set up > multiple PoverOver pop accounts that they all make it into NextMail > but sorted into different MailBoxes in NextMail? Sure, use PopOver to deliver to |/usr/local/bin/formail -e -s procmail and use procmail and appnmail (from mailapp-utilities) ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/procmail.3.11pre4.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/mailapp-utilities.1.7.NIHS.bs.tar.gz the recipe could be as simple as SHELL=/bin/sh MAILDIR=$HOME/Mailboxes/ # all messages to "steve" will go to ~/Mailboxes/Steve.mbox * ^TOsteve |appnmail Steve # all messages to "other" will go to ~/Mailboxes/Other.mbox * ^TOother |appnmail Other # all messages to "third" will go to ~/Mailboxes/Third.mbox * ^TOthird |appnmail Third The ^TO macro will catch `(^((Original-)?(Resent-)?(To|Cc|Bcc)|(X-Envelope |Apparently(-Resent)?)-To):(.*[^a-zA-Z])?)' which is pretty extensive. If you need more info on procmail, see the man pages or drop me a note. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
From: sugawara@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Why won't my Color Turbo Station power down Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 22 Feb 1997 08:20:42 GMT Organization: Edmonton FreeNet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Message-ID: <5ema8q$5e8$1@news.sas.ab.ca> References: <5ed479$ctm@mozart.jlc.net> The Rev. James David Meacham (jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net) wrote: : I really do love my color turbo. Problem is, whenever I try to reboot : it or shut it down, it hangs, necessitating a break to the ROM : monitor, and a 'bsd' from there. I'd like to skip this,. Does any : know why it might do this? Thanks in advance. Peace, : James There may be a process which is refusing to die. You may try to find out if that is the case by verifying if it's a daemon process (system programs that waits for a specific event to occur on the NeXT) by powering up the machine, and trying to shut it down once the login box appears. If it does power down ok, you are probably using a program as a user which refuses to die. Otherwise, try powering up in single user mode, and then try to power down. It's been a while since I've done this, but I believe it's "bsd -s" off the ROM monitor. If you are able to power down at this point, there is a program being launched from an rc file (/etc/rc, /etc/rc.boot, /etc/rc.local) which is hanging. Try to log in remotely into your machine as root, and kill each root process except your login shell, from the largest PID to the smallest (because killing pid 1, which is the init process is a fast way of getting unix to reboot). Standard disclaimers apply. -- /**************************************************************************/ Masahiko (Sam) Sugawara email: sugawara@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with station boot problem Date: 23 Feb 1997 00:54:20 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970223005400.TAA11861@ladder02.news.aol.com> I have a NeXTstation 8/105, ADB, NS 3.0, and there seems to be a strange thing happening occasionally when I boot the machine. The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: sc: scintr program error the machine then starts up as normal. This doesn't affect the performance at all, I'm just curious what's going on. TIA, Joe Gidi
From: Kerry <bentonkr@goliath.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.next.misc,comp.misc,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Apps. Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 04:01:12 -0600 Organization: Academic Computing and Information Services Message-ID: <330EC3E8.5AA5@goliath.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone out there have any idea if there is a web browser or any other cool stuff for the NeXT Box? It runs Mach 3.0. Thanks, Kerry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9702221903.AA01528@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 97 20:03:14 +0100 Subject: Rhapsody prototype has been seen at MacWorld Tokyo (from www.MacInTouch.com) Hi there NeXTfolks, I tought you might enjoy this: Apple engineers demonstrated Mac applications running under a Nextstep/Rhapsody prototype, and George Graves posted a summary to (comp.sys.mac-) Usenet: "With the ink not yet quite dry on the NeXT/Apple merger, Apple had an employee "show-n-tell" today (Feb 18, [1997]) in which they showed Mac System 7.X apps like Photoshop 4.0 running on BlueBox under NeXT-Rhapsody! This is VERY encouraging. The system seemed stable, they ran several apps including MS Word and Excel, shared info between them and copied files on the YellowBox side while doing so. Nothing crashed. While very optimistic, the demonstrator stressed that there was still much work to be done before a DR is ready in May for WWDC, but that they will make it." (from www.MacInTouch.com on Feb. 20th, 1997) Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with AppleSTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news ---
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax software on NeXT Date: 21 Feb 1997 10:03:16 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5ejrt4$718@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <5ef2nk$26e@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> In article <5ef2nk$26e@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) writes: > >Did someone manage mgetty+sendfax running/compiling ? Any preconfigured > >bundle somewhere for download ? I've got mgetty+sendfax-1.1.1 going on NS3.3 I've managed to configure things to do both incoming and outgoing faxes going with shared networking fax support so you can send and receive faxes on any networked NEXTSTEP machine connected to the faxserver. (Received faxes is done via NeXTMail to a designated admin.) I've had some problems with Kevin Peckover's ps2g3 conversion barfing on some of my more intense Postscript so I'm still futzing around with that. In the meantime, you could try Olaf Mueller's ps2tiff converter from his newam-0.2 package on ftp.leo.org in pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/programs. It seems to work better, but doesn't come with source and it looks like Olaf is taking the commercial route with it. Once I clean the scripts up a bit I'm happy to contribute it to the mgetty distribution, but in the meantime, send me a note and I'll help you with what I've got so far. -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,sci.math.symbolic Subject: cmsg cancel <5eoru1$jmv@slip.net> Control: cancel <5eoru1$jmv@slip.net> Date: 23 Feb 1997 01:13:28 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5ep1no$ol7@slip.net> <5eoru1$jmv@slip.net> was cancelled from within trn.
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,sci.math.symbolic Subject: Re: Is Mathematica 3.0 available for NS 3.3 on black hardware? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 17:32:07 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <33100076.5584@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5eoru1$jmv@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> Yes, Please visit http:/www.wolfram.com younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written by Korean)
From: news@tpgi.com.au Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <01bc2157$c63eb140$2e991dcb@bkc.tpgi.com.au> Date: 23 Feb 1997 08:17:33 GMT Control: cancel <01bc2157$c63eb140$2e991dcb@bkc.tpgi.com.au> Message-ID: <cancel.01bc2157$c63eb140$2e991dcb@bkc.tpgi.com.au> Sender: "Tom Burgess" <burgess@tpgi.com.au> Posting in violation of terms-of-service. Cancelled by news@tpgi.com.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: EOF - Oracle Support Message-ID: <E60w1n.3y1@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5e85dj$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 21:08:11 GMT In article <5e85dj$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) writes: > Hi. I've been told that I need EOF to support connections to > Oracle on another server. Is this true? The DBKit seems to > imply that one can use SQL*Net 2 style connection descriptors > ... alas, I don't know where to put the tnsnames.ora file that > define these connections. How can DBKit establish this connection > without SQL*Net? Has NeXT licensed code from Oracle and built > their own SQL*Net infrastructure? Cheers, > DBKit only works with Oracle 6. You need EOF for Oracle 7 connections. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.next.misc,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Apps. Date: 23 Feb 1997 04:02:00 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5eoffo$gin@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <330EC3E8.5AA5@goliath.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> Cc: bentonkr@goliath.vuse.vanderbilt.edu In <330EC3E8.5AA5@goliath.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> Kerry wrote: > Does anyone out there have any idea if there is a web browser or any > other cool stuff for the NeXT Box? It runs Mach 3.0. > Thanks, > Kerry > Here are the main NeXT software archives: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next ftp://ftp.evolution.com/pub/next/ To get OmniWeb, a great Web browser, go to http://www.omnigroup.com/ It's great to see someone at Vanderbilt interested in NEXTSTEP. I used the Macs in the public cluster and the OS/2 PCs in the Med library there last summer, and it was very hard to get anything serious done. The Mac is going to have a whole new life soon... -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,sci.math.symbolic Subject: Re: Is Mathematica 3.0 available for NS 3.3 on black hardware? Date: 23 Feb 1997 12:57:12 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm166-19.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5eper8$6fe$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5eoru1$jmv@slip.net> <33100076.5584@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Cc: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr In <33100076.5584@soback.kornet.nm.kr> younghoon KIL wrote: > Yes, Please visit http:/www.wolfram.com > > > > younghoon KIL > ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr > http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai > (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written by Korean) > It runs quite well considering how complex the program is. Acoring to the documentation you need at least 12MB RAM for Mono and 24 MB for Color NeXT workstation, but I have 20MB on Color and it runs fine. There is no academical version available for NeXT, as far as I know. Good luck, Mma 3.0 is a lot of fun compared to 2.2 -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Strange: Main menus nowhere to be seen Date: 18 Feb 1997 18:37:36 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5ecstg$t67@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) wrote: > For the last several weeks, the main menus of two applications > I use (specifically Mesa and Edit) are nowhere to be seen whenever > I start both applications. The menus remain hidden the whole > time I use these apps. The only way I am able to see the menu > is by using the right mouse button. Is there any keystroke that > I perchance might have used that caused the main menus from both > apps to remain invisible? How do I get back these menus? They wouldn't have moved due to a keystroke. You'd have had to drag them to the new position. The quickest way to get them back might be to: quit Edit and Mesa. open a unix shell in Terminal.app Enter the commands: dremove Edit NXMenuLocations dremove Mesa NXMenuLocations quit Terminal.app See if Edit and Mesa work better. There are some GUI interfaces to the defaults database, so you wouldn't need to bother with the Unix window, but I don't remember what they are. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: carl@norumrez.usask.ca (Carl Norum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Animation for Black Hardware? Date: 23 Feb 1997 18:26:22 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> Hi there everyone. I am taking a media studies class, and for a large part of our final mark we have to do a major final project. I was thinking of doing some computer animation with the new NeXTstation Turbo Color that we just got here at home. Could anyone direct me to some good programs which could help me out? Thanks a lot. Carl Norum carl@norumrez.usask.ca (NeXTmail preferred.)
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for display driver for Compaq notebook Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:30:51 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <ndaniel1-1702971324350001@p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Noah M. Daniels" <ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu> Please visit http://www.deepspacetech.com/ or http://www.bifrostworks.com younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written by Korean)
From: gsupport@mttam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Attention Apple, Sun and NeXT developers Date: 23 Feb 1997 19:59:32 GMT Organization: VVI Data Control Specialists Message-ID: <5eq7j4$qdo@news4.digex.net> Originator: gsupport@ Attention Apple, Sun and NeXT developers. Start your participation in the OpenGraph Gamma Program now and receive ... 1. Proven OpenGraph technology used now by the largest OpenStep customers to monitor billions of dollars worth of products. 2. No-fee technical support via e-mail, no-fee use of the OpenGraph gamma version during the gamma program, and no entrance fee (its free). 3. Free commercial copies of the GraphBuilder** application for ALL computers in participant's company, and one copy of OpenGraph-Developer** and OpenGraph-User*** sent to participants at the end of the gamma program. OpenGraph is successful because we make it a win-win situation for everybody involved. This gamma program is yet another example of that approach. To take advantage of this offer act now by contact VVI-DCS at gsupport@mttam.com. _________________________________ PRESS RELEASE: OpenGraph/OpenStep Gamma Program VVI Data Control Specialists (VVI-DCS) 311 Adams Ave. State College, PA 16803 Attn: OpenGraph Coordinator 814-234-9613 ; 888-DCS-OPEN gsupport@mttam.com State College, PA, 20 January 1997: VVI-DCS announced an expansion of its OpenGraph on OpenStep gamma program. If your business is interested in gamma testing OpenGraph please contact VVI-DCS at gsupport@mttam.com. "We've been working on the OpenGraph/OpenStep port for about a year now." said John Brilhart, Chief Technical Officer at VVI-DCS. "Our customers are reporting complex data sets from global real-time data feeds up to 500 events per second. That type of data reporting requires reliable and optimized report software. The gamma program is an important final part of our total quality control of the OpenGraph port." John adds, "The improvements and new features accompanying that port ensures our commanding lead in the high-end data reporting markets. With OpenStep and OpenGraph we provide compelling and unique solutions which have market advantages for our customers. For that reason we've always been fully committed to OpenStep on all platforms and have been working with NeXT and Sun for quite a while. We expect to apply the same level of commitment to the Apple version of OpenStep when it becomes available." About VVI-DCS: VVI-DCS, founded in 1989, builds custom OpenStep based data report and acquisition systems for the financial service, manufacturing, pharmaceutical and biotech industries and is the leading supplier of high-end data report software for the OpenStep market. About OpenGraph: OpenGraph is a framework of Objective-C and C++ objects for reporting data in graph and textual formats and consists of a graph building application and pre-built objects. OpenGraph accepts real-time feeds from any source and serves as a graphing front-end for real-time financial analysis, transaction, production and inventory analysis, database systems, and instrumentation. OpenGraph is fully object-oriented and is well suited to systems which require reliability, exacting specifications and performance. OpenGraph Status (OpenStep Versions): OpenGraph V3.3a is running in gamma mode in these configurations: (1) Solaris/OpenStep, (2) Mach/OpenStep V4.1 on SPARC/Intel/NeXT computers, (3) Windows NT V4.0/OpenStep. A non-disclosure agreement is required for participation in the gamma program. OpenGraph Status (NEXTSTEP Versions): The OpenGraph V3.2k CD is available for NeXT, HP PA-RISC, SPARC, and Intel computers running NEXTSTEP V3.2 or V3.3. OpenGraph V3.2m is available on DAT and a contract basis for NeXT, HP PA-RISC, SPARC, and Intel computers running NEXTSTEP V3.2 or V3.3. _________________________________ A non-disclosure agreement is required for participation in the gamma program. ** no-license-fee commercial use license. ***no-license-fee and royalty-free commercial use license. (C) Copyright 1997 VVimaging, Inc. (VVI-DCS); All rights reserved. OpenGraph, GraphBuilder, VVI Data Control Specialists, VVI-DCS, and VVimaging are trademarks of VVimaging, Inc. (VVI-DCS). NeXT, NEXTSTEP and OpenStep are trademarks of NeXT Software, Inc. Sun Microsystems and Solaris are trademarks or registered trademarks of Sun Microsystems, Inc. in the United States and other countries. All SPARC trademarks are used under license and are trademarks or registered trademarks of SPARC international, Inc. in the United States and other countries. Intel is a registered trademarks of Intel. Microsoft and Windows are registered trademarks of Microsoft, Inc. Windows NT is a trademark of Microsoft, Inc. All other trademarks and service marks belong to their respective owners.
From: "Jan van Die" <janvdie@box.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT-desktop - THANKS! Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:13:27 +0200 Organization: Uitgeverij Divo Message-ID: <janvdie-2302972213270001@douwe.box.nl> I received a lot of screendumps of the NeXT-desktop. They certainly arrived in time for my story about the Apple/NeXT. Thank you all very much! Internet is great for a journalist in need of information!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Animation for Black Hardware? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E62tLv.5wv@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:10:43 GMT References: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca>, Carl Norum <carl@norumrez.usask.ca> wrote: >Hi there everyone. I am taking a media studies class, and for a large part >of our final mark we have to do a major final project. I was thinking of >doing some computer animation with the new NeXTstation Turbo Color that we >just got here at home. Could anyone direct me to some good programs which >could help me out? Thanks a lot. > 3DReality is pretty nifty. Visit http://www.stone.com/ to learn more. And, for a little while, you can get all of their great software for a rediculous low price. Just a happy customer. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MOTOROLA 300-MHZ PPC Message-ID: <8D292FD.09B80001E1.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 97 12:45:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 MOTOROLA PREPS 300-MHZ POWERPC CHIP Apple expected to tap 603E series for its line of PowerMacs, PowerBooks 02/24/97 ComputerWorld Motorola, Inc. next month plans to release a 300-MHz 603E PowerPC microprocessor, which Apple Computer, Inc. is expected to use in future PowerMacintosh and PowerBook models. The Schaumberg, Ill., company plans to unveil the chips at CeBit next month in Hannover, Germany, a Motorola executive said last week. Apple hasn't publicly said it will upgrade its desktop and notebooks to the processor, but Paul Clark, European marketing and communications manager for Motorola's RISC group, said such a deal is expected. The 603 series chip will be the fastest chip Motorola has ever released. Motorola has previously announced its plans to manufacture a 300-MHz 603 microprocessor, but until now the company hasn't indicated when the chip would be available or which systems manufacturers would use it. UP FOR ADOPTION Clark said Apple is considering building a system around a forthcoming version of Motorola's 620 PowerPC processor. Groupe Bull is expected to adopt the upgraded 620 chips in its line of Unix servers. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 Origin: ------------> QuickTime is on my side. Yes it is. inctly: "The chip is in bipolar-based CMOS. Bipolar transistors are dialectically isolated with trenches and bonded wafer oxide." George Taylor, chief technology officer at Exponential, said he could not confirm or deny the use of SOI technology. A spokesman noted that the company has about 20 patent applications pending. CMOS transistors Another source said the bipolar transistors, some 700,000 of them in the X704, gain performance from the use of SOI, while the CMOS transistors used for L1 cache do not go below the relatively thick silicon layer. The air-cooled X704 draws 80 to 85 W, which can be handled by a slightly more expensive power supply and an additional fan and heat sink. "The performance is pretty impressive, and that's what counts," said Peter Glaskowsky, a senior analyst at MicroDesign Resources (Sunnyvale, Calif.). "Who cares about the power consumption, as long as you can take care of it?" The Exponential design is expected to help keep Apple competitive among the customers that use Apple hardware for desktop publishing, Quark-based pre- press, photo editing, and other applications. Martin Mitchell, an independent systems integrator working in Tokyo, said the demonstrations of the systems based on the X704 running at 450 MHz were impressive. Joe Barta, a marketing manager at Exponential, said Apple and vendors of core logic are working to speed up the system bus from 50 MHz now to 83 MHz and, later, 100 MHz. Other companies are developing a dual-port cache controller that will serve to isolate the speedy processor from the relatively slow external bus speeds. Apple chief executive officer Gil Amelio, at a press conference here, said systems based on the Exponential processor will be ready by the end of this year. While other companies have offered competitive desktop systems that also may use the X704, Apple is the only announced company behind an X704-based design. Asked about Powerbook licensing, Amelio said Apple is not ready to open up its Powerbook line to cloners. "At this time we can sell all of the Powerbooks that we can make, and that is sort of a competitive advantage for us. Near term, we don't plan to open up licensing," Amelio said. Amelio said he could not comment on how many staff positions will be cut at Apple over the next month or two, but said that "next month we need to take out about $400 million of cost on an annual basis." -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 Origin: ------------> QuickTime is on my side. Yes it is. e Java Compiler, and Microsoft also gives you a choice of either the Apple Java Virtual Machine or Metrowerks Java Virtual Machine. If you choose to use the Metrowerks Java Virtual Machine, you'll save memory because it loads pages when asked and automatically unloads them from memory when you're finished viewing. NAVIGATOR 3.0 Netscape's Navigator browser is a set of online Macintosh tools that integrates E-mail, newsgroup discussions and WYSIWYG Web-editing functions. All that is only in the 3.0 Gold version, however; there are other versions with lower price tags and lesser feature sets available as well. Navigator is available for 16 different platforms and requires 7 megabytes on your hard drive. Like Explorer, Navigator provides you with a customizable, feature-rich environment in which to work. Navigator runs Java applets. In addition, it supports JavaScript 1.1, QuickTime, .AVI, QuickTime VR and VRML 1.0 via Plug-Ins, in-line streamed sound via RealAudio Plug-in and most recognized sound formats, such as .WAV, AIFF, AU and MIDI for multimedia viewing. It also supports the most commonly utilized image formats. The main news and mail features include NNTP News reader, POP3 Internet Mail and multiple news server support. Security is provided through 128-bit encryption, SSL 3.0, site and server authentication, and support for wildcards. Customizing Netscape is accomplished easily by selecting specific preferences located under the Options pull-down menu on the toolbar. Some of the choices you can make include which function to launch on start-up: the browser, mail or news; tool-bar view; pictures, text or both; and the frequency of link expiration. TCPCONNECT4 NET Developed by InterCon Systems, this is a very powerful communications environment that performs several tasks using a single interface. It is relatively straightforward to install and configure, whether on a network or a single unit, and gives you four editions to choose from, depending on your needs. TcpConnect4 Net edition includes Web browser, FTP client/server, E- mail, Gopher client, Usenet news and Unix utilities, and is available for all Macintosh, Windows and Windows NT platforms. It requires 7.4 megabytes on your hard drive. We think this product is an ideal choice for telecommuters, education or corporate users who need mail and Internet/intranet tools because of the overall integration qualities present. Another outstanding feature of the TcpConnect4 Net edition that sounds mundane but has been largely discounted by other browsers is the E-mail spell-checking capability. This function has been given the importance it requires in a business application and is located in the Edit pull-down menu. TcpConnect4's future is unclear at this time because of InterCon's recent acquisition by Ascend Communications Inc., the Alameda, Calif.-based manufacturer of remote networking products. THE FINAL ANALYSIS You can expect the best browsers to give you more than just browsing ability. These four products all deliver tools that help you take advantage of the Web's rich content by customizing your Internet/intranet experience and by incorporating E-mail and newsgroup access, FTP and site editing or management features. All function slightly differently and have different strengths. To make the best choice, determine your individual needs and match them with a browser that meets those requirements. After all, it's still survival of the fittest. Cyberdog 2.0: Apple Computer Inc., 1 Infinite Loop, Cupertino, Calif. 95014; 408-996-1010; www.apple.com. Available free off-site. Internet Explorer 3.0: Microsoft Corp., 1 Microsoft Way, Redmond, Wash. 98052; 206-882- 8080; www. microsoft.com. Available free off-site. Navigator 3.0: Netscape Communications Corp., 501 East Middlefield Road, Mountain View, Calif. 94043; 415-254-1900; home. netscape.com. List price: $49 ($69 for Gold). TcpConnect4 Net: InterCon Systems Corp., 950 Herndon Parkway, Herndon, Va. 22070; 703-709- 5500; www.intercon.com. List price: $115. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 Origin: ------------> QuickTime is on my side. Yes it is.
From: ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu (Noah M. Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for display driver for Compaq notebook Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:14:54 -0500 Organization: Noah's Ark Message-ID: <ndaniel1-2302971814540001@p0.ts24.metro.ma.tiac.com> References: <ndaniel1-1702971324350001@p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com> <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr> In article <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr>, ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr wrote: > Please visit http://www.deepspacetech.com/ or > http://www.bifrostworks.com Hmm.. the former has some drivers though I don't think they're the right ones. However, the bifrostworks link doesn't work... the domain does not exist. I also tried bitfrostworks.com, in case you made a typo, but that didn't work either. Any ideas? Thanks, -- -- Noah M. Daniels ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~ndaniel1/ "He was a brave man who first ate an oyster" - Jonathan Swift "Wonder is the feeling of a philosopher, and philosophy begins in wonder" - Socrates
From: buzz@peninsula.starway.net.au (paul burrowes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cadkey Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 02:08:54 GMT Organization: Starway Message-ID: <5eoq67$2jg$1@gunmetal.starway.net.au> can someone help I'm after some cadkey 7 cde modules and also a help file for the fastsurf v2.0 cde module . call paul if you can help!!! email buzz@peninsula.starway.net.au
From: Yi Liu <liuyi@crystalball.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Should I get OS4.1 for Black or White? Date: 24 Feb 1997 04:37:57 GMT Organization: 9H, Inc. Message-ID: <5er5v5$8li$1@news.crystalball.com> I know that OS4.2 is coming out in the summer, but I can't wait anymore and plan to get OS4.1 Academic bundle to start playing with it. And I'd prefer having it on my ND Turbo Cube, if the performance degradation from NS3.3 to OS4.1 is tolerable. I also have a PPro box I can use for OS4.1. So is there anyone developing in OS4.1 on black hardware? How slow is it? Thanks, liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Success w/GS, remote printer on black? Message-ID: <ukv4tf2n4px.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 05:38:34 GMT Hi... I'm having some serious troubles. I'm trying to set up Ghostscript 4.03 as an input filter to a remote, networked printer (an HP LaserJet 5L, hooked up to an old 8086 DOS machine running a dumb LPD (i.e., I can't run a filter on that machine), which is ThinNetted to my 040 black non-turbo slab. I've tried several times to get this working directly via a serial connection, using a serial/parallel converter, with no luck (and I have other reasons for not wanting to do this as well). What I've got, basically, is a working (I think) GS 4.03 installation, and I've used NetInfoManager to set the input filter to run GS as a postscript filter. Now, I'm stuck. I know what I need to do is set up a dummy printer entry that points to the remote machine and printer, but how do I get the printer that has the if to pass its output to this dummy printer entry? I've tried running an output-filter script, but it didn't work, and I've also tried setting up the remote printing from the same printer with the if, but it ignores the if and passes the postscript directly to the remote machine, which is no good, since the 5L is a non-postscript printer. Can anyone offer any help? Thanks, Mark C. Langston -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX and LaTeX for NeXTStep Date: 24 Feb 1997 07:14:32 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <5erf4o$vbi@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <330869BE.41C6@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de> ldbuchho (ldbuchho@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de) wrote: : : does anyone know, where I can get a TeX/LaTeX-Compiler for my : NeXTstation-Computer? ftp.dante.de (or any other CTAN node, 'finger ctan@dante.de' for more info). Go and grab full teTeX distribution with NeXT binaries. Do not forget about corresponding TeXview from contrib/next subdirectory. Run 'sh install.sh'. Enjoy! Michal
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Animation for Black Hardware? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:55:26 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <33113B5C.37FB@earthlink.net> References: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: carl@norumrez.usask.ca I know that Cambridge Animation Systems' Animo runs on NeXTSTEP. It may be a little...NO, ALOT....more expensive for what you want. Here's the URL in case you win the lottery. http://www.animo.com
From: Augusto Rodrigues <asrodrig@fis1.fc.up.pt> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good GUI ftp client? Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 12:44:33 +0000 Organization: Universidade do Porto Message-ID: <330D974F.35FF@fis1.fc.up.pt> References: <5ee00u$4j3@news2.cais.com> <5eeevg$i25@stern.fokus.gmd.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Fischer wrote: > > I prefer Yftp. And: it's FREE and comes with source code. > > Robert (the Fischer one) Does anyone know if Yftp can be set up to use proxies? My local network is behind a firewall. If so how? If not is there any other PD ftp client (preferably with a GUI) that allows the automatic download of subdirectories? Thanks in advance. A. Rodrigues
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP PostScript compatibility Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:08:37 +0100 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <331192D5.2781@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <970221114319.208AAFcH.magnus@darwin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Magnus Nordborg wrote: > > My colleagues using Solaris/SunOS have had problems printing .ps/.eps files > that I have generated under NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. Their systems administrator > claims that the problem is that the NeXTSTEP printing engine generates > PostScript that is not 100% compatible with standard Adobe PostScript, and > advises me to look for ways to turn off "NeXTSTEP extensions" when > generating the files. > > Does anyone have any experience with this? Is there anything I can do to > work around the problems? > > -Magnus Yes I know this problem. Some NeXT Programms generate Vector coordinates with a resulution that is very high and just rounded by other systems to reasonable values. This may lead to "range check" errors for example if the extentions of a box is rounded to zero. See ghostscript output on the Not-NeXT systems. As far as I know ghostscript version 4.x behaves much more friendly. A work around might be to load the PS File to Tailor or OneVision and print it again into a preview file with the "device independent option". stef -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: talk and ytalk hiccups Date: 24 Feb 1997 13:55:36 GMT Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <5es6ko$e1n$3@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> References: <E61EK8.An@xombi.wizard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <E61EK8.An@xombi.wizard.net>, recurve@resourceful.com writes: > xombi.wizard.net> talk ginger > talk: xombi.wizard.net: Can't figure out network address. > xombi.wizard.net> ytalk ginger > new_user: bad host: 'xombi.wizard.net': (no system error) > xombi.wizard.net> > > I'm using Terminal.app, any suggestions? Seems like it has something to do with your network installation. Especially with the support of symbolic domain names? (DNS) Try to ping the other host first. And try it with the IP Number then. Bernhard Reiter
From: Lutz Kwasniok <101667.1750@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HELP!!!! Mail.app and CServe-Mail Date: 24 Feb 1997 19:00:47 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Message-ID: <5esogv$fg5$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! Does anybody know if I could use Mail.app with the mailserver of Compuserve, because they didn't have a pop/smtp mailserver. Does anybody know if there is a way to make use of the CompuServemailserver and how to configure my system to send mail to server and to get my mail from it ??? Any hints are wellcome. Lutz Kwasniok Hannover Germany Mail: 101667.1750@compuserve.com (MIME, ASCII) -- Lutz Kwasniok Hannover Germany Mail: 101667.1750@compuserve.com (sorry no nextmail)
From: vova@rtr.transit.ru (Vladimir Pilipyuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need koi8-r fonts Date: 24 Feb 1997 17:33:58 GMT Organization: Transit Newsgate Message-ID: <5esje6$pse@fido.transit.ru> Does any of you know where to get koi8-r fonts for NeXT? Please, replay by MailTo:vova@rtr.transit.ru Thank you, Vladimir -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($1O97,@86YY(&]F M('EO=2!K;F]W('=H97)E('1O(&=E="!K;VDX+7(@9F]N=',@9F]R($YE6%0_ M7`I<"E!L96%S92P@<F5P;&%Y(&)Y($UA:6Q4;SIV;W9A0')T<BYT<F%N<VET >+G)U7`I<"E1H86YK('EO=2Q<"E9L861I;6ER"GT* `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.mail.sendmail From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> Subject: sendmail recipe requested Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.970224142728.1589B-100000@lipschitz> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:37:36 -0600 Organization: As little as I can get away with... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know a sendmail recipe that will convert user@sfasu.edu to user@TITAN.sfasu.edu ? I.e., I want to replace @sfasu.edu with @TITAN.sfasu.edu on any outgoing message. Thanks, kc P.S. Please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu .
From: Anonymous <Sam.Chow@analog.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Configure Solaris Openstep Desktop Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:51:10 -0500 Organization: analog.com Message-ID: <3312377E.2941@analog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Netters, I am new user to the Openstep Solaris scene. I have always dreamed of using NeXTstep. I have recently installed Openstep onto my sparc-station now that Openstep is finally available for Solaris. Unfortunately, I wasn't that impressed with Openstep/Solaris as some of the key features available in OpenWindows/CDE is not available in Openstep. Specifically, I could not customize Openstep to the following environment. 1. Activate windows on the mouse pointer. 2. Do not raise windows upon activation. (I always hate those darned MacOS windows and Windows95 windows as a result. Pet Peeves) 3. Multiple workspace displays like CDE. One can be so productive by just clicking onto a different display area. 4. Openstep Mailer is awesome but there is one tiny problem it keep removing my mail from /var/mail. I know that one could override the environment variables for one's preference. Question is how? I have checked the NeXT FAQ and it seems that one has to use dwrite followed by the environmental variables that one wishes to change. Anyway, I will continue to search for answers but I thought that experts here could help me out in my quest for answers. Any feedback or tip is welcome and greatly appreciated. Thanks. Regards, Samuel Chow
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702241324.IAA06346@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 08:24:18 -0500 Subject: Seeking: Jason Fosback Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Last known email address: jfosback@pscwa.psca.com He's the author of PopOver.app (among other things). Now I get "unknown host", there's no 'whois' information for his domain. Anyone know where he went?? TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
From: ws@helga.helga.mfh-iserlohn.de (Waldemar Skorupa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need help on c-script Date: 25 Feb 1997 07:13:28 GMT Organization: FernUni Hagen Message-ID: <5eu3eo$p7c@ilex.FernUni-Hagen.de> Hello, I need help on the following c-script: >>#! /bin/csh set rootdir = /Net/honi/WWW-Disk/Public/wwwdoc # This is the root directory of the Web tree you want to index. set index = /usr/local/bin/wais-database # This is the name your WAIS indexes will be built under. # Index files will be called index.* in the /usr/local/httpd/wais/sources # directory, in this example. set indexprog = /usr/local/bin/wais/waisindex # The full pathname to your waisindex program. set nonomatch cd $rootdir set num = 0 foreach pathname (`du $rootdir | cut -f2 | tail -r`) echo "The current pathname is: $pathname" if ($num == 0) then set exportflag = "-export" else set exportflag = "-a" endif $indexprog -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index $exportflag $pathname/*.html $indexprog -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.txt $indexprog -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.c $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.ps $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.gif $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.au $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.hqx $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.xbm $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.mpg $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.pict $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.tiff @ num++ end echo "$num directories were indexed." << I'm working on a HP-PA Risc running NeXT 3.2. the system will not recognize the "cut" command at the beginning of the loop. Hey programmers do you have any suggestions for an other command or so???? Thank in advance Waldemar Skorupa Hagen, Germany
From: Yi Liu <liuyi@crystalball.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need help on c-script Date: 25 Feb 1997 08:37:11 GMT Organization: 9H, Inc. Message-ID: <5eu8bn$40u@library.airnews.net> References: <5eu3eo$p7c@ilex.FernUni-Hagen.de> [Waldermar, my email to you bounced, please check you addr] ws@helga.helga.mfh-iserlohn.de (Waldemar Skorupa) wrote: > [...] > foreach pathname (`du $rootdir | cut -f2 | tail -r`) > [...] > I'm working on a HP-PA Risc running NeXT 3.2. the system will not > recognize the "cut" command at the beginning of the loop. > Hey programmers do you have any suggestions for an other command or > so???? Hi, BSD4.3 based NS3.2 does not have the 'cut' command. There're two easy ways to get around it: 1. Use "awk '{print $2}'" in place of the "cut -f2" in your script. 2. Get GNU's textutils.<version#>.tar.gz from prep.ai.mit.edu or your favorite GNU mirror. It should compile straight out of the box. You'll have 'cut' plus other superior GNU goodies. I recommend the second solution, it should give you fewer headaches like this in the future. Regards, liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: Achim Gratz <gratz@ite.inf.tu-dresden.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Re: Configure Solaris Openstep Desktop Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.apps Date: 25 Feb 1997 10:24:02 +0100 Organization: Institute of Computer Engineering, CS department, TU Dresden, Germany Sender: gratz@ite127.inf.tu-dresden.de Message-ID: <cn2stnsrf.fsf@ite127.inf.tu-dresden.de> References: <3312377E.2941@analog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anonymous <Sam.Chow@analog.com> writes: > Specifically, I could not customize Openstep to the > following environment. > > 1. Activate windows on the mouse pointer. > 2. Do not raise windows upon activation. (I always hate those darned > MacOS windows and Windows95 windows as a result. Pet Peeves) Sorry, that limitation is carried over from NextStep and has to do with DPS. Since a good number of people have complained about it, it might go away in the future. > 3. Multiple workspace displays like CDE. One can be so productive by > just clicking onto a different display area. You can configure oswm to have virtual screens (it is an olvwm in disguise). The problem is that many apps don't expect it and this buys you some "accidental features" that aren't funny. The problem with not having virtual screens is that especially Motif apps pop many windows on the screen, but they don't close them all together when you iconify one as the OpenStep apps do. > 4. Openstep Mailer is awesome but there is one tiny problem it keep > removing my mail from /var/mail. You should be glad it does. Achim Gratz. --+<[ It's the small pleasures that make life so miserable. ]>+-- WWW: http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~ag7/{english/} E-Mail: gratz@ite.inf.tu-dresden.de Phone: +49 351 463 - 8325
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Animation for Black Hardware? Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:03:02 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <3312D4A3.2919@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: carl@norumrez.usask.ca Carl Norum wrote: > > Hi there everyone. I am taking a media studies class, and for a large part > of our final mark we have to do a major final project. I was thinking of > doing some computer animation with the new NeXTstation Turbo Color that we > just got here at home. Could anyone direct me to some good programs which > could help me out? Thanks a lot. > > Carl Norum > carl@norumrez.usask.ca > (NeXTmail preferred.) Visit http://www.gestel.com or http://www.gestel.it younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written in Korean)
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Re: Configure Solaris Openstep Desktop Date: 25 Feb 1997 12:16:51 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5eul7j$ec8$3@darla.visi.com> References: <3312377E.2941@analog.com> In comp.sys.next.software Anonymous <Sam.Chow@analog.com> wrote: : 1. Activate windows on the mouse pointer. : 2. Do not raise windows upon activation. (I always hate those darned : MacOS windows and Windows95 windows as a result. Pet Peeves) : 3. Multiple workspace displays like CDE. One can be so productive by : just clicking onto a different display area. : 4. Openstep Mailer is awesome but there is one tiny problem it keep : removing my mail from /var/mail. Can't do any of these things. All of these behaviors are in line with NEXTSTEP, btw. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:03:02 GMT Organization: R&A Sender: news@RnA.NL Message-ID: <E64FL2.Iz3@RnA.NL> Subject line says it all. Oh, and I don't mind a command line based newsreader that can just decode the contents of a MIME message like the use of uudecode from within nn. -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. Renee: "Met veel koper maakt men hoempa." (After hearing a Nielsen symphony)
From: georg@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (Georg Rehm) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: talk and ytalk hiccups Date: 25 Feb 1997 12:31:25 GMT Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <5eum2t$31n$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> References: <E61EK8.An@xombi.wizard.net> <5es6ko$e1n$3@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> Bernhard Reiter (breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE) wrote: > In article <E61EK8.An@xombi.wizard.net>, > recurve@resourceful.com writes: > > xombi.wizard.net> talk ginger > > talk: xombi.wizard.net: Can't figure out network address. > > xombi.wizard.net> ytalk ginger > > new_user: bad host: 'xombi.wizard.net': (no system error) > > xombi.wizard.net> > Try to ping the other host first. And try it with the IP Number > then. Bernhard, the guy was obviously trying to "talk" to someone logged in on "his" machine which means that there's probably no DNS problem. Some suggestions: be sure that user "ginger" exists on your machine; furthermore be sure that your machine (incl. loopback) is correctly configured in /etc/hosts. Regards, Georg -- Georg Rehm - Wuestenstrasse 33 - 49080 Osnabrueck - Tel: +49 541 9827762 RFC 822: Georg@CL-KI.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE - georg@ge.org
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: KOI8-r fonts Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:25:46 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg36912.thr-2006ca.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg36912.thr-2006ca.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> If you get any other replies about cyrillic fonts for NeXT, I would be very interested to hear about them. I searched Peanuts and found this: ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/Fonts/fonts/Russian_NeXT_Fonts.README ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/Fonts/fonts/Russian_NeXT_Fonts.tar.gz ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/Fonts/fonts/Russian_NeXT_Fonts_KOI8.READM E ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/Fonts/fonts/Russian_NeXT_Fonts_KOI8.tar.g z I'm working from home on a Mac so I can't download them to check them out, but here's the read me from the KOI8 file: This package contains some Russian NeXT fonts in the KOI8 encoding scheme. I have found them as public domain PostScript *.pdf fonts at KIAE anonymous ftp site. I have used the same conversion scheme as one described below which was used to convert fonts from my previous package Russian_NeXT_Fonts. Hope you will like these fonts. September 28, 1995 M.Fradkin ======================================================================== ======= ======================= Russian_NeXT_Fonts.README file ======================== As you can guess from the name, it is a bunch of Russian NeXT fonts. You can place them in your "~/Library/Fonts", "NextLibrary/Fonts" or "LocalLibrary/Fonts" directory and run 'buildafmdir ~/Library/Fonts', 'buildafmdir ~/Library/Fonts' or 'buildafmdir LocalLibrary/Fonts', correspondingly. Then they will be available for your system. Fonts in this directory are produced from public domain PostScript font set cyr_ps.zip and Terminal KOI8 by Daniel A. Chirkov. To convert *.pfb files from cyr.ps into Post Script Type 1 NeXT format the 'pfb2ps' utility from "pcATMfont2Next" package was used followed by 'afmmaker' to produce *.afm file. These fonts do not have Latin characters and their encoding put Cyrillic letters in place of Latin ones to map standard "QWERTY" keyboard layout onto Russian "JCUKENG" one. To convert KOI8-Terminal font I took Mac type 1 KOI8-Terminal font and got *.afm file using 'mcvert'. Then I have produced outline font file through 'mfrc' program from Mac printer-downloadable font (Macintosh file type 'LWFN'). This font has both Latin and Cyrillic characters in KOI-8 encoding and can, thus, be used to read relcom.* newsgroups and to send/receive e-mail in Russian. I do not have convenient NeXT keyboard layout, unfortunately. Please, send comments to 'mfradkin@next.mrco.carleton.ca'. M.Fradkin, Jan 29 1995 -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: Griogair Bell <griogair@seanet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: MindShare 3.0 but no one's home. Looking for info. (fwd) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:43:44 -0800 Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970225094316.11981B@kisa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone have information about pangea? They don't seem to be answering voicemail messages. Is there someone that has MindShare 3.0 that is interested in selling? What kind of prices am I looking at for this product? Thanks, --------------------------------------------------------- Griogair (206) 343-7828 Seanet Internet Services griogair@seanet.com ---------------------------------------------------------
From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NoteBook.app, how can I get a license? Date: 25 Feb 1997 17:50:22 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ev8ou$e93@news.acns.nwu.edu> I tried NoteBook.app and I like it. I'd like to purchase a license but I haven't been able to contact the authors. Here is what I know (from there info panel), it is written by Millennium Software Labs, Inc. 1010 El Camino Real, Suite 300 · Menlo Park, CA 94025 · USA (415) 321-3720 · (415) 321-3650 Fax · info@millennium.com Call (415) 321-3720 to order products But there phone is disconnected and has no forwarding information. Can anyone tell me now to contact them? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can OpenStep be configured to serve PPP? Date: 25 Feb 1997 20:42:40 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5evis0$j15@news.acns.nwu.edu> I have a OpenStep 4.1/Intel machine on my desk at my University. We have a T3 Network connection, so to say the least it is very fast. Unfortunately, the University has implemented a 90 minute time limit for their dialup IP service. So to get around it I am looking into establishing my own dialin service. Can anyone tell me if I can configure OpenStep to act as a PPP or Slip server for dialup? What tools/packages would I need? Is there any documentation on this? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Animation for Black Hardware? Date: 25 Feb 1997 14:13:04 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Message-ID: <5evkl0$dh7@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> <33113B5C.37FB@earthlink.net> Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> wrote: >I know that Cambridge Animation Systems' Animo runs on NeXTSTEP. It may >be a little...NO, ALOT....more expensive for what you want. Here's the >URL in case you win the lottery. > >http://www.animo.com That's an odd site... under "NEEDS" it states: "Animo works under a UNIX-based operating system that allows for reliable multitasking, built in networking, high-resolution graphics, and an easy to use interface. It also allows easy integration into mixed SGI, Windows NT and Macintosh environments." UNIX-based operating system? What the heck is that supposed to mean? SGI? Or are they no longer running under NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: Brian Ward <bward@stevens-tech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X Apps Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:48:28 -0500 Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology Message-ID: <33136C3C.AEC@stevens-tech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there anyway to run OPENSTEP in a X WIndows on another machine i.e. not a NeXT?
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: dual-boot partition problem Date: 25 Feb 1997 23:19:51 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5evs2n$vm0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> I have a problem with partitioning a 2GB disk for dual-boot operation. The disk is just over 2GB, so BuildDisk can't be used. I've been trying to get NS 3.3 fdisk to give me DOS/NS partitioning. I tried imitating the setup of my old, working 1GB dual-boot disk. I chose the same partition-types, but for some reason the "DOS" one is not recognized by either DOS or NeXTSTEP. In running fdisk, I picked a "DOS 16-bit FAT" partition (type 6) for the DOS one. Here is the fdisk information for my working 1GB dual-boot disk: NeXT fdisk v1.02 Type Start Size Status -------------------------------------------- DOS, 16 bit FAT 0 200 - NEXTSTEP 200 806 Active Partition Table ---------------- Act H S Cyl Id H S Cyl Begin Size --- - - --- -- - - --- ----- ---- 0 1 1 0 6 3f 20 c7 20 63fe0 80 0 1 c8 a7 3f 20 3ed 64000 193000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Disk Information ----------------- Disk statistics according to device driver and bios: device: 1006 Megabytes, 2061108 sectors bios: 1006 Megabytes, 2060288 sectors cylinders = 1006, heads = 64, sectors/track = 32 The results for the new 2GB disk look similar: NeXT fdisk v1.02 Type Start Size Status -------------------------------------------- DOS, 16 bit FAT 0 604 - NEXTSTEP 604 1443 Active Partition Table ---------------- Act H S Cyl Id H S Cyl Begin Size --- - - --- -- - - --- ----- ---- 0 1 1 0 6 fe 3f 4c 3f 12dfce 80 0 1 4d a7 fe 3f 104 12e00d 2d1ab8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Disk Information ----------------- Disk statistics according to device driver and bios: device: 2050 Megabytes, 4197405 sectors bios: 2047 Megabytes, 4192965 sectors cylinders = 261, heads = 255, sectors/track = 63 Note that both DOS partitions have an Id of "6", so they *should* be the same type. However, when I boot the new disk no "dos_disk" partition shows in the NS file viewer, and when I boot from a DOS floppy and try to access C:, it says the disk has an "invalid media type", and won't let me run DOS fdisk or format on it. Obviously I havn't done the right thing with fdisk yet. If anyone can tell me how to fix this, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: hnalgae@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Kang Hyun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: 25 Feb 1997 23:36:18 GMT Organization: Hayan Nalgae Software Message-ID: <5evt1i$pet$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> References: <E64FL2.Iz3@RnA.NL> You wrote in comp.sys.next .software, on Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:03:02 GMT > Subject line says it all. > > Oh, and I don't mind a command line based newsreader that can just decode the > contents of a MIME message like the use of uudecode from within nn. Hi, I am the developer of HNNews. HNNews can extract and launch binaries and text from the original MIME message. And I am planning to support internal MIME in a few months. If you want to know about HNNews, please visit http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~hnalgae/. Regards. Hayan Nalgae Software, NEXTSTEP Development. http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~hnalgae/ hnalgae@soback.kornet.nm.kr <Kang Hyun> Hayan Nalgae means White Wing in Korean. NeXT, Mime mail OK.
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Talk between Linux and NeXT impossible? Date: 24 Feb 1997 05:58:04 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5eralc$m2@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <5ef1va$9tc$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> <5eijt6$8eb@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) wrote: > breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) wrote: > >You might want to try "ytalk" which has some improvements over > >other talks. ;-) > > I already tried 'ytalk'. No help. Did you install it on both linux and NeXTSTEP? --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA I suspect that is what you're running into. NeXTSTEP uses some Postscript comments to indicate printer-features which have been selected for the job. This works fine if another NeXTSTEP machine is doing the actual printing, but it won't work so well if your print spooler is something else. > Does anyone have any experience with this? Is there anything I > can do to work around the problems? In the definition of the printers, in Netinfo, add an attribute of "_nxfinalform". See if that helps. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WTB: MindShare 3.0 but no one's home. Looking for info. (fwd) Date: 26 Feb 1997 02:09:30 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5f060q$68d@news.us.net> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970225094316.11981B@kisa> Griogair Bell <griogair@seanet.com> wrote: > Anyone have information about pangea? See http://www.pangea.com/ ..Bill Chin
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: KOI8-r fonts Date: 26 Feb 1997 08:20:33 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970226082000.DAA15230@ladder02.news.aol.com> References: <msg36912.thr-2006ca.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Uh, why wouldn't these be downloadable? I know it's a hassle dealing with resource forks on a Mac and all, but surely there's a gunzip program for it--then you can move the tar over to the NeXT over a serial link or network and you're set! William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Lib Informática Ltda." <Lib.Info@Empresa.com.br> Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.anu-news Subject: Representative from Brasil looks for partners aboard Date: 26 Feb 1997 06:07:07 GMT Organization: Lib Informática Ltda. Message-ID: <01bc23a5$14b03700$0100007f@lib-info-01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 CVRoZSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcHV0ZXIgbWFya2V0IGlzIGEgbGFyZ2UgbWFya2V0IHdoZXJlIGFs bW9zdCBhbGwgcHJvZHVjdHMgY2FuIGJlIHNvbGQhICAgRm9yIG1hbnkgeWVhcnMsIGZvcmVpZ24g Y29tcGFuaWVzIGluIEJyYXppbCBjb3VsZCBub3Qgc2VsbCB0aGVpciBwcm9kdWN0cyBhbmQgc2Vy dmljZXMgd2hlcmUgYSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcGFueSB3b3Jrcy4gICBUaGlzIGJyb3VnaHQgcmFw aWQgZGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQgZWFybHksIGJ1dCBzdGFnbmF0aW9uIGFmdGVyd2FyZHMhICAgV29yc3Qs IGEgaGlnaGVyIHByaWNlISEhICAgTm93LCB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIGNvbXB1dGVyIG1hcmtldCBp cyBvcGVuIHRvIGFsbCBmb3JlaWduIGluZHVzdHJ5LiAgIEFuZCBwcmljZSBpcyBub3QgYSBwcm9i bGVtLi4uDQoNCglTbywgd2h5IGRvZXNuJ3QgeW91ciBjb21wYW55IHRyeT8NCg0KCVdlIHJlcHJl c2VudCBzZXJ2aWNlcywgc29mdHdhcmUsIGFuZCBoYXJkd2FyZSBmcm9tIGZvcmVpZ24gY29tcGFu aWVzIGRvaW5nIGJ1c2luZXNzIGluIEJyYXppbC4gICBXZSBhcmUgbG9va2luZyBmb3IgcGFydG5l cnMgd2hvIGludGVuZCB0byBlbnRlciB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIG1hcmtldCB3aXRoIHRoZWlyIHBy b2R1Y3RzL3NlcnZpY2VzLg0KDQoJQW55d2F5LCBpZiB0aGlzIHByb3Bvc2FsIGludGVyZXN0cyB5 b3UsIHBsZWFzZSBlLW1haWwgbWUgLSBMaWIuSW5mb0BlbXByZXNhLmNvbS5iciAtIHdpdGggYW4g b3V0bGluZSBvZiB5b3VyIHByb2R1Y3RzIGFuZC9vciBzZXJ2aWNlcyB0byBsZXQgdXMgZXZhbHVh dGUgaWYgdGhleSBjb3VsZCBiZSBzb2xkIGRvd24gaGVyZSBpbiBCcmF6aWwuDQoNCg0KCVRoYW5r IHlvdSBmb3IgeW91ciBhdHRlbnRpb24uDQoNClAuUy46IEkgZG8gbWFuYWdlIGEgMSwwMDAgbWVt YmVyIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdCBvbiBXaW5kb3dzICc5NSBzb2Z0d2FyZSB3aGVyZSBJIHdyaXRlIGFi b3V0IHRoZSBuZXcgcHJvZHVjdHMgYW5kIHJlbGVhc2VzLg0KDQoNCg0KQ2FybG9zIEJvcmdhcnRo DQpMaWIgSW5mb3Jt4XRpY2EgTHRkYS4NClJpbyBkZSBKYW5laXJvICAtICBCcmFzaWw=
From: Mark Trombino <mtrombin@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:47:51 -0800 Organization: Egg Head Billy Productions Message-ID: <331414D7.488@ix.netcom.com> References: <E64FL2.Iz3@RnA.NL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote: > > Subject line says it all. > > Oh, and I don't mind a command line based newsreader that can just decode the > contents of a MIME message like the use of uudecode from within nn. > The next beta version of RadicalNews (due out in March) will support internal MIME messages. It is *by far* the best newsreader I have ever used on ANY platform and strongly incourage others to try it out! - Mark Trombino (not affiliated in any way to Radical Software. Just a fan!)
From: Mark Elliss <melliss@gentia.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 200MHz Dell Pentium and NS 3.3 not booting correctly Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 10:48:43 +0000 Organization: Planning Sciences International Message-ID: <3314150B.26DD@gentia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have had this problem using Diamond Stealth cards. The solution is to run Configure.app from NextAdmin. When it comes up and you see Summary of Devices select the Expert... button. Set Boot Graphics to No. Your system will now boot without having to type -v at the boot prompt. Good Luck Mark
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bifrostworks link doesn't work... Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:57:33 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <33145CF4.58C9@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <ndaniel1-1702971324350001@p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com> <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr> <ndaniel1-2302971814540001@p0.ts24.metro.ma.tiac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Noah M. Daniels" <ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu> Noah M. Daniels wrote: >However, the bifrostworks link doesn't work... the domain does not > exist. I also tried bitfrostworks.com, in case you made a typo, but that > didn't work either. Any ideas? http://www.bifrostworks.com/ Now, They work. Please vist their web-site. younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written in Korean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9702251948.AA02446@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 20:48:00 +0100 Subject: Quix Computerware Hi there Folks, does anybody know if Quix Computerware Inc. in Switzerland, Europe which produces the Daydream Dongles for NeXT computers has moved or changed its phone number? I do need to talk to Andy Grawehr of Quix! Any hint?? Anybody??? Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with AppleSTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: can't connect to 'http://www.bifrostworks.com' Date: 26 Feb 97 14:11:06 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF39F50F-11320F@207.147.51.249> References: <199702241453.JAA07234@peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: luomat@peak.org On Mon, Feb 24, 1997 9:53 AM, Timothy J Luoma <mailto:luomat@peak.org> wrote: > > My DNS doesn't seem to be able to find > http://www.bifrostworks.com > > Anyone have an IP for them? > > TjL I just connected to the URL you have above and got Bifrost with no problems. If you are using OmniWeb, I have occassionally noticed that it has a bit of a problem resolving URL's. Just try it again. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: 26 Feb 97 14:13:02 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF39F574-114A06@207.147.51.249> References: <331414D7.488@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.sysadmin On Wed, Feb 26, 1997 5:47 AM, Mark Trombino <mailto:mtrombin@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > The next beta version of RadicalNews (due out in March) will support > internal MIME messages. It is *by far* the best newsreader I have ever > used on ANY platform and strongly incourage others to try it out! The UI is great on RadicalNews, but the performance on my Turbo Cube is slow as molasses even with a 28.8 connection. That Kiwi Newsreader is much faster, but I don't know if it supports MIME. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: bhenry@curie (Brad Henry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Seeking: Jason Fosback Date: 25 Feb 1997 20:08:02 GMT Organization: AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. Message-ID: <5evgr2$2jr@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> References: <199702241324.IAA06346@peak.org> Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > Last known email address: > jfosback@pscwa.psca.com > He's the author of PopOver.app (among other things). Now I get > "unknown host", there's no 'whois' information for his domain. > Anyone know where he went?? > TjL Jason is alive and well at jfosback@pscwa.psca.com. Was this a one time problem or does this occur frequently? There is whois information for psca.com, and the mailhost for pscwa.psca.com is mailhost.pscwa.psca.com. Sounds like it might have been a DNS problem (unable to reach the name server for psca.com). Try tracerouting to 199.99.162.3, please send me the ouput if there are any problems. There is no whois info for the pscwa.psca.com subdomain, and pscwa.psca.com is not a machine name. If anyone else has had problems contacting Jason, please let me know. thanks, brad ______________________________________________________ Brad Henry Platinum Solutions 1018 110th Place N.E. Bellevue, WA 98004 brad_henry@psca.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can OpenStep be configured to serve PPP? Message-ID: <1997Feb26.104636.26294@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 26 Feb 97 10:46:36 MST References: <5evis0$j15@news.acns.nwu.edu> Distribution: world Cc: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu In <5evis0$j15@news.acns.nwu.edu> dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote: > Can anyone tell me if I can configure OpenStep to act as a PPP or Slip server for dialup? > What tools/packages would I need? Is there any documentation on this? > The PPP package that ships with Openstep 4.1 works just fine... -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071
From: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU (David M. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT TIFFs, JPEGs to Windows95 TIFFs, JPEGs Date: 26 Feb 1997 20:13:24 GMT Organization: Colorado School of Mines Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5f25h4$15hs@magma.Mines.EDU> Keywords: TIFF, Windows 95 Howdy all, I recently bought an HP 690 series inkjet (which can use the `photo cartridge', which replaces the black-only cartridge with lower-saturation cyan and magenta inks + black, for quasi-photographic quality results). While the JetPilot HP 680 driver does a *great* job for color using the *conventional* color cartridge, it doesn't know about the photo cartridge. I use JetPilot for all my non-photographic color printing. The HP-supplied drivers for Windows95 are very good, and naturally take full advantage of the photo cartridge. So I've been trying to convert photo-based NeXT graphics (TIFF,JPEG,GIF) into some standard form that Windows95 knows about. I've used epstotiff to generate 300dpi NeXT TIFF files, and there are several NeXT utilities for interconverting betweenEPS, TIFF, JPEG, etc. But so far no Windows app I've stumbled across can open NeXTish TIFF or JPEG files (even when run through Rosetta). Can anyone recommend (1) a public domain or free TIFF viewer for Windows95 (from which I assume I'll be able to print using the HP Windows95 printer driver), and (2) a specific sequence of processing steps which will convert a NeXT TIFF into something Windows 95 will recognize and print? Many thanks! -- David M. Wood, Associate Professor Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401 Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840 http://www.physics.mines.edu/people/pages/wood.html e-mail: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702241457.JAA07277@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 41c89f8121dc67bc78cf42a0d0a51a53 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 09:57:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Help with PPP requested Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 41c89f8121dc67bc78cf42a0d0a51a53 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: The Math Doctor <mathdoc@b-bop.com> Original Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:44:40 -0600 Message-ID: 41c89f8121dc67bc78cf42a0d0a51a53 - > 0) Is there an easier way to do all this - some inexpensive piece > of software for dial up which supports PPP? Many people have reported good experiences with GateKeeper ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ppp/GateKeeper.2.1.Beta.5.NI.b.tar.gz > 1) What am I doing wrong? Have you set up the 'pap' files? > 2) What do I have to do to get PPP running that I have not already > done? Don't think there is anything. kermit is a good way to test the connection, but I'm not clear as if there is any PAP stuff setup. What does the ppplog tell you? > 3) If I succesfully connected and got PPP working, would > Netsurfer work with out aditional set up? Yes, it should, as would OmniWeb, which is free for a single user. ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/OmniWeb.2.5b2.N.tar.gz TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702241453.JAA07234@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 77ec746f598929e0e67a660c99b3ba35 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 09:53:38 -0500 Subject: can't connect to 'http://www.bifrostworks.com' References: 77ec746f598929e0e67a660c99b3ba35 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary My DNS doesn't seem to be able to find http://www.bifrostworks.com Anyone have an IP for them? TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702241451.JAA07214@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 65894d2c0ac7ff613bceb7cb8487c175 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 09:51:21 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXT Apps. Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com, bentonkr@goliath.vuse.vanderbilt.edu References: 65894d2c0ac7ff613bceb7cb8487c175 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Original Date: 23 Feb 1997 04:02:00 GMT > To get OmniWeb, a great Web browser, go to > http://www.omnigroup.com/ Except that if this is NeXTStep 3.0 or 3.1 I don't think OW will run on it. Perhaps version 1.0 will Try this: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.1.0/OmniWeb.1.0.NIHS.b.tar.gz Hmm... that's QuadFat, which I think will barf on NS 3.0 or 3.1. If you need OW 1.0 and need it for just Mach, let me know. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.anu-news Subject: cmsg cancel <01bc23a5$14b03700$0100007f@lib-info-01> Date: 26 Feb 1997 22:17:14 GMT Control: cancel <01bc23a5$14b03700$0100007f@lib-info-01> Message-ID: <cancel.01bc23a5$14b03700$0100007f@lib-info-01> Sender: "Lib Informática Ltda." <Lib.Info@Empresa.com.br> Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970226.20. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970226.20.html for complete report. Original Subject: Representative from Brasil looks for partners aboard
From: Michael Lewis <nylwi@ny.ubs.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Re: Configure Solaris Openstep Desktop Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:19:04 -0500 Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland Message-ID: <3314B6D8.1D09@ny.ubs.com> References: <3312377E.2941@analog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anonymous wrote: Dear Netters, I am new user to the Openstep Solaris scene. I have always dreamed of using NeXTstep. I have recently installed Openstep onto my sparc-station now that Openstep is finally available for Solaris. Unfortunately, I wasn't that impressed with Openstep/Solaris as some of the key features available in OpenWindows/CDE is not available in Openstep. Specifically, I could not customize Openstep to the following environment. 1. Activate windows on the mouse pointer. you need to start oswm with the -f flag (ie oswm -f) there is a bunch more args to oswm also run oswm -help for a list. 3. Multiple workspace displays like CDE. One can be so productive by just clicking onto a different display area. This is one of the main reasons I don't use Openstep at work ( I do at home ). 4. Openstep Mailer is awesome but there is one tiny problem it keep removing my mail from /var/mail. the mailer is 'cute' but it lacks some basic features like it can't auto include signatures or auto-intend/include the original mail you are replying to. I like the fact that it moves from /var/mail so its off the mail server and in my home directory. One feature I'm trying to figure out myself is how to set the icon image and Dock image for non-openstep apps. Currently the are all assigned the same terminal image which makes it hard to tell what the app really does. I 'm hoping Openstep for Solaris gets updated soon. In its current state its not very useful but then its also free! I know that one could override the environment variables for one's preference. Question is how? I have checked the NeXT FAQ and it seems that one has to use dwrite followed by the environmental variables that one wishes to change. Anyway, I will continue to search for answers but I thought that experts here could help me out in my quest for answers. Any feedback or tip is welcome and greatly appreciated. Thanks. Regards, Samuel Chow -- ================================================================== Michael L. Lewis mlewis@ny.ubs.com Union Bank of Switzerland www.ubs.com 299 Park Ave, NYC. 10171 212-821-5649
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: crump@world.std.com (David Crump) Subject: /etc/hosts not resolving hostnames...help! Message-ID: <E688Ay.283@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:16:10 GMT I am having trouble with my NeXT box resolving hostnames. In my local configuration, I have the correct IP number, router number, netmask and hostname. I have tried both NetInfo Network and NON-NetInfo Network, but to no avail. My /etc/hosts file has all my names and numbers in it, but it says to NOT use NetInfo if I want this file to be read. How exactly do I do this? Thanks for the help via e-mail... David Crump crump@world.std.com ===================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com (Eric Chu) Subject: Re: Fax software on NeXT Message-ID: <3314cb74.804374749@ceco> Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. References: <1997Jan10.191542.2125@gamelan.shnet.org> <5ef2nk$26e@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <5eifsu$6c5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:50:23 GMT Hi all, Look out...newbie alert. On the subject of faxing and NeXts I have a black '40 mono running openstep. I'd like to buy a cheapo usr external 14.4 modem to setup my black as a fax station. Questions: 1) I can't find NXFAX. Can someone point me in the right direction? How much is it? Do I have other options? 2) Cables...pointers to making one and purchasing one would be much appreciated. TIA eric chu echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com >A compiled package... well, perhaps I should try to do that, but compiling >is really not that hard. > > Gregor > > >-- >| Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | >| flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | >| (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | >| PGP Key fingerprint = 23 8F B3 38 A3 39 A6 01 5B 99 91 D6 F2 AC CD C7 |
From: clafey@buncombe.main.nc.us (Cicada La Fey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer Prob Date: 26 Feb 1997 21:39:40 GMT Organization: Mountain Area Information Network Message-ID: <5f2ais$am3@mainsrv.main.nc.us> I am running NeXTStep 3.1 on an 040 cube I have a SLIP connection set up and I am trying to get NewsGrazer to work with the local news server. I set the nntp value to the name of the server and when I start up the program, the SLIP connection comes up, the NewsGrazer window says "Locating Active Newsgroups" at that point the program hangs. The modem reveals that at this point there is no communication going on. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Cicada clafey@main.nc.us
From: rvose@ix.netcom.com (R. Vose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail.App Sorting Date: 27 Feb 1997 04:27:22 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5f32fa$pil@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Group... Is there a program out there which will automatically sort incoming email to a specific .mbox when it arrives? I've been hunting around the peak ftp site and found mailapp-utilities, but that looks to be command-line driven. Thanks in advance... -- Randy V. rvose@ix.netcom.com Denver, CO
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: 27 Feb 1997 03:21:15 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm132-28.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5f2ujb$j3m$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <E64FL2.Iz3@RnA.NL> <7xg1yjry8m.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Cc: markusg@burrow.muc.de In <7xg1yjry8m.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Markus Gloede wrote: > >>>>> "GW" == Gerben Wierda <Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl> writes: > > GW> Subject line says it all. > > Everytime somebody askes for a good newsreader my voice can be heard > shouting: Emacs + Gnus! It does everything you want and more. > > Markus G > It doesn't sound to me like what he meant. He's most likely looking for a newsreader extension for the 'vi' editor? No full screen, line by line mode. Sorry, I couldn't help myself, just a friendly joke. :-))) Good luck. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.App Sorting Date: 27 Feb 1997 05:34:34 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5f36da$5ii@news.digifix.com> References: <5f32fa$pil@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <5f32fa$pil@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> On 02/26/97, R. Vose wrote: >Group... > >Is there a program out there which will automatically sort incoming email to >a specific .mbox when it arrives? > >I've been hunting around the peak ftp site and found mailapp-utilities, but >that looks to be command-line driven. > >Thanks in advance... > Yes. You need mailapp-utilities and procmail. Both should be on ftp.next.peak.org. Also, check out http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next Tim's got some good Mail.app/procmail links there.. My setup with those two programs and Mail.app regularly sorts, auto-replies, auto-/dev/nulls, bounces or logs 500 to 800 pieces of email each day. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Markus Gloede <markusg@burrow.muc.de> Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xg1yjry8m.fsf@burrow.muc.de> To: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de (the mole) Organization: hardly any. . . References: <E64FL2.Iz3@RnA.NL> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:36:25 GMT >>>>> "GW" == Gerben Wierda <Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl> writes: GW> Subject line says it all. Everytime somebody askes for a good newsreader my voice can be heard shouting: Emacs + Gnus! It does everything you want and more. Markus G
From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB : Academic Version : Mathematica 2.2 Date: 27 Feb 1997 05:29:41 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5f3645$6nh@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Keywords: mathematica i am looking to buy a copy of mathematica 2.2 (academic version). please e-mail me with details. thanks, seran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: nyang@netcom.com (Nick Yang) Subject: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Message-ID: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> Summary: Help a NeXT novice Keywords: NeXT, Screwup Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:16:16 GMT Sender: nyang@netcom3.netcom.com I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing around, I have already made it unbootable... Someone please help me. The hardware is a NeXTstation mono 16/400. System version is 3.3. What I did to screwed it up is, I login as root and use Simple Network Setup, and made the computer a NetInfo server (or client?). (I have a LAN of couple of Unix machines and Macs.) And now when I restart the computer, I will get a message: "lookupd: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping" and it will just hang there. After a couple of ^C, I will get a core dump. I then unplug the network cable and reboot, the process will pause at starting file service, and after a couple of ^C, I will get the mouse pointer, but no Workspace Manager. Can any NeXT guru tell me how to boot the computer without NetInfo. Or, maybe if you know the solution to my problem. I am so lost. I checked all the FAQs, and NextAnswer. Please if you know, reply to the message or send an e-mail to me. I will be checking the newsgroup and mail all night. Or heck, if you know how to fix my problem, call me at my home. My number there is 1-818-821-1989. Thanks a million in advance. - Nick
From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need help on c-script Date: 27 Feb 1997 00:26:24 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Message-ID: <5f2kbg$5k@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> References: <5eu3eo$p7c@ilex.FernUni-Hagen.de> In article <5eu3eo$p7c@ilex.FernUni-Hagen.de>, ws@helga.helga.mfh-iserlohn.de (Waldemar Skorupa) writes: |> Hello, |> |> I need help on the following c-script: -- snip -- |> foreach pathname (`du $rootdir | cut -f2 | tail -r`) --snip |> I'm working on a HP-PA Risc running NeXT 3.2. the system will not recognize |> the "cut" command at the beginning of the loop. |> Hey programmers do you have any suggestions for an other command or so???? |> |> Thank in advance |> Try: foreach pathname (`du $rootdir | awk '{print $2;}' | tail -r`) This will also print out the value in the second column, which is what the cut was to do (I believe). -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com -- Software consulting (Perl, C, Python, ...), ghost@ghost.neosoft.com -- (see: http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/5857.html)
From: Bald Herreman <bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Software for reading MusicDATs? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 11:22:59 +0100 Organization: University of Ghent, Belgium Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.970227111925.26677A-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi does anyone of the existance of an application for reading music dats on a datstreamer (wangdat 3600, in my case) and saving the titles as .snd files on the hard disk... plaese mail any replies also pesonally thanks in advance, Bald Herreman Institute for Psychoacustcs and Electronic Music University of Ghent BELGIUM
From: KoopaTroopa <KoopaTroopa@prodigy.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: midi for openstep Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 05:59:08 -0500 Organization: Prodigy Internet Message-ID: <331568FC.1485@prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit does anyone know of any good midi sequencing or digital multitrack recording software for OpenStep Intel? Please point me in the right direction
From: 3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software for reading MusicDATs? Date: 27 Feb 1997 13:51:45 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Message-ID: <5f43hh$5fk@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> References: <Pine.SOL.3.94.970227111925.26677A-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> Bald Herreman (bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be) wrote: : Hi does anyone of the existance of an application for reading music dats : on a datstreamer (wangdat 3600, in my case) and saving the titles as .snd : files on the hard disk... : plaese mail any replies also pesonally : thanks in advance, : Bald Herreman : Institute for Psychoacustcs and Electronic Music : University of Ghent : BELGIUM AFAIK this is _not_ possible as the normal DAT streamer don't support reading audio DATs. The only exception are the ones by Silicon Graphics, but you need a Silicon Graphics computer to use this feature. Eberhard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU) Subject: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Message-ID: <E69Is9.4vp@papageno.rim.or.jp> Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU) Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:00:09 GMT I have skimmed Apple's web pages but could not find the answer: (1) Will OPENSTEP standard applications (such as WorkSpace, Edit, etc.) run in Rhapsody? (2) Will current third-party applications for NEXTSTEP run in Rhapsody? (3) Will UNIX commands run in Rhapsody? These questions may seem silly but I'm serious. It's getting harder and harder to stay on NEXTSTEP on INTEL hardware because I cannot get any state-of-the-art applications for NS and SoftPC can only run 16bit Windows applications. So if Rhapsody enables me to run Mac and OS applications and UNIX commands simultaneously, I think it's worth considering the transfer to PowerPC architecture. --- Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB)
From: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Date: 27 Feb 1997 14:18:01 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5f452p$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> Nick Yang (nyang@netcom.com) wrote: : I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing : around, I have already made it unbootable... Someone please help me. : : The hardware is a NeXTstation mono 16/400. System version is 3.3. : : What I did to screwed it up is, I login as root and use Simple Network : Setup, and made the computer a NetInfo server (or client?). (I have a : LAN of couple of Unix machines and Macs.) And now when I restart the : computer, I will get a message: : : "lookupd: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping" : : and it will just hang there. After a couple of ^C, I will get a core dump. : : I then unplug the network cable and reboot, the process will pause at : starting file service, and after a couple of ^C, I will get the mouse : pointer, but no Workspace Manager. : : Can any NeXT guru tell me how to boot the computer without NetInfo. Or, : maybe if you know the solution to my problem. I am so lost. I checked all : the : FAQs, and NextAnswer. Please if you know, reply to the message or send : an e-mail to me. I will be checking the newsgroup and mail all night. : Or heck, if you know how to fix my problem, call me at my home. My : number there is 1-818-821-1989. Thanks a million in advance. : : - Nick : Try to boot up in single user mode. I'm don't know how to do this with Next-hardware, but it should be in the NextAnswers. Then restore the NI database with the default somewhere in /usr/template/client... If you can't find it, send me a mail. I could check it out, when I'm home. -- ========================================================================== Winfried Bergmann | Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page ==========================================================================
From: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: software for microtek scanner? Date: 27 Feb 1997 14:23:56 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5f45ds$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Hello, I just got a used Microtek ScanmakerII. I works under Windows, but I'd like to use it with NS. Is there any scanner software, which works with this? (I already tried ScanMaker, but it doesn't recognice my scanner). thanx winfried -- ========================================================================== Winfried Bergmann | Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page ==========================================================================
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Apps. Date: 27 Feb 1997 15:15:19 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <5f48e7$mv1@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: 65894d2c0ac7ff613bceb7cb8487c175 - <199702241451.JAA07214@peak.org> Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > Hmm... that's QuadFat, which I think will barf on NS 3.0 or 3.1. > > If you need OW 1.0 and need it for just Mach, let me know. There used to be a cute little command-line app called 'jenny' on the archives that would turn a fat binary into a thin Moto binary that NS 3.0 could use (providing, of course, that the app didn't call any libraries that were missing in NS 3.0!). If it's not already on your FTP site, you might want to dig it out---maybe even put a README to draw attention to it. ``We will heel you. We will save your +------------------------------------+ sole. We will even dye for you.'' | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 | -- Seen in a cobbler's window | jburton@nwu.edu | Central Square, Cambridge +------------------------------------+
From: Bald Herreman <bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software for reading MusicDATs? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:00:34 +0100 Organization: University of Ghent, Belgium Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.970227165446.13907A-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> References: <Pine.SOL.3.94.970227111925.26677A-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> <5f43hh$5fk@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de> In-Reply-To: <5f43hh$5fk@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> On 27 Feb 1997, Eberhard Wolff wrote: > Bald Herreman (bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be) wrote: > : Hi does anyone of the existance of an application for reading music dats > : on a datstreamer (wangdat 3600, in my case) and saving the titles as .snd > : files on the hard disk... > > : plaese mail any replies also pesonally > > : thanks in advance, > > : Bald Herreman > : Institute for Psychoacustcs and Electronic Music > : University of Ghent > : BELGIUM > AFAIK this is _not_ possible as the normal DAT streamer don't support reading > audio DATs. The only exception are the ones by Silicon Graphics, but you > need a Silicon Graphics computer to use this feature. > > Eberhard > Would it be possible to do this from the coaxial/electrical (or optical) digital output of a audio dat machine (preferably to a next, 4.1 openstep computer, if not to windows). I have to create a CDimage with sound examples accompanying a forthcoming book publication. thanks, bald
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can Citrix WinFrame be used to distribute OSE windows? Date: 27 Feb 1997 16:23:46 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5f4cei$8n3@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Citrix offers what appears to be a GDI window server and client. This allows Windows apps to run on a computer running a Citrix-modified version of Windows NT which with their windows appearing on remote computers running Citrix window server software. This is analogous to NSHosting or the more common X Window window client/server technology. But since OSE windows aren't "pure" GDI windows (a DPS window server draws the window contents), we wonder whether Citrix will work with OSE apps. Does anyone know? -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Dvips and 600dpi --- how can I force fonts to be generated? Date: 27 Feb 1997 17:03:08 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5f4eoc$chk@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I want to convert my dvi file into postscript, but temporarily do not have my 400 dpi printer. Rather, I cansend it to a 600dpi printer. How can I induce TeX to create the fonts rather than scaling the 400 dpi fonts. This latter solution seems to look ugly on the 600dpi printer. Thanks, Lones .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. / L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \ / `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' ` Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 (617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax) lones@lones.mit.edu
From: jstella@okeefe.com (Seraphim J. Stella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Date: 27 Feb 1997 17:03:32 GMT Organization: digitalNATION high speed internet Message-ID: <5f4ep4$l9e$1@news1.dn.net> References: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> Cc: nyang@netcom.com In <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> Nick Yang wrote: > I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing > around, I have already made it unbootable... Someone please help me. > > The hardware is a NeXTstation mono 16/400. System version is 3.3. > > What I did to screwed it up is, I login as root and use Simple Network > Setup, and made the computer a NetInfo server (or client?). (I have a > LAN of couple of Unix machines and Macs.) And now when I restart the > computer, I will get a message: > > "lookupd: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping" > > and it will just hang there. After a couple of ^C, I will get a core dump. > > I then unplug the network cable and reboot, the process will pause at > starting file service, and after a couple of ^C, I will get the mouse > pointer, but no Workspace Manager. > > Can any NeXT guru tell me how to boot the computer without NetInfo. Or, > maybe if you know the solution to my problem. I am so lost. I checked all > the > FAQs, and NextAnswer. Please if you know, reply to the message or send > an e-mail to me. I will be checking the newsgroup and mail all night. > Or heck, if you know how to fix my problem, call me at my home. My > number there is 1-818-821-1989. Thanks a million in advance. > > - Nick > No problem... When your machine first boots, a screen will come up saying "Loading from Disk". At this point, hold down the right "Command" key and tap the upper left hand key on the numeric keypad (generally the "`" key). This will bring up a terminal boot screen. Type "bsd -s" (without the quotes) at the prompt. This will bring you up in single-user mode. Single user mode has only a UNIX command line interface, so don't worry when no Workspace Manager launches... Type the following commands: mkdir /Users/<YourUserNameHere>/NetInfoBackup cp -r /etc/netinfo /Users/<YourUserNameHere>/NetinfoBackup/ cp hostcongif /etc/netinfo /Users/<YourUserNameHere>/NetinfoBackup/ rm -r /etc/netinfo rm /etc/hostconfig cp /usr/template/client/etc/hostconfig /etc cp -r /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo /etc These commands will make a backup of your network configuration files, delete the old network configuration files and then put the templates back in their place. Make sure to replace the <YourUserNameHere> strings with your actual login name. F.Y.I The commands I gave you are not the most efficient way to execute these tasks, but are the easiest to "get" if you are unfamiliar with UNIX. Email me if you need additional help. Josh Stella
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: liu@emerald.physics (Wei Liu) Subject: software to separate NHIS binaries? Message-ID: <E692GK.AsK@info.physics.utoronto.ca> Sender: news@info.physics.utoronto.ca (System Administrator) Organization: University of Toronto - Dept. of Physics Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:07:31 GMT I saw this software sometime before. It is used to extract only one type of binary code from the FAT compiled executable. Anyone knows what is its actual name and where it is available? thanks.
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: software to separate NHIS binaries? Date: 27 Feb 1997 19:19:33 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5f4mo5$emo$1@news.xmission.com> References: <E692GK.AsK@info.physics.utoronto.ca> liu@emerald.physics (Wei Liu) wrote: > I saw this software sometime before. It is used to extract > only one type of binary code from the FAT compiled executable. > Anyone knows what is its actual name and where it is available? command line: lipo, built into NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP, try "man lipo" to learn about it. GUI: MetroSuction.app, should be available from the NeXT ftp sites as a freebie. -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: software to separate NHIS binaries? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E69zrM.27H@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:06:58 GMT References: <E692GK.AsK@info.physics.utoronto.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <E692GK.AsK@info.physics.utoronto.ca>, Wei Liu <liu@emerald.physics> wrote: >I saw this software sometime before. It is used to extract only one >type of binary code from the FAT compiled executable. Anyone knows what >is its actual name and where it is available? >thanks. > > It comes with NeXTSTEP and is called "lipo". Check the man page for more info. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: andy@nutaumar.demon.co.uk (Andy Warne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help please with disk partition problem! Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 05:20:20 GMT Organization: Unisys Corporation Message-ID: <5f4tkq$qfb$2@mail.pl.unisys.com> Hi all you Next experts out there! My recent introduction into the world of NEXT has not been a happy one! I am trying to install Openstep 4.1 onto a Pentium Pro 200 with two Quantum Fireball 3200 3.2 gig SCSI disks. The first attempt was to let the installation do its own thing. When prompted I let Next create a 100 meg DOS partition and let it use the rest of the disk for itself. I assumed that because of the 2 Gig limit it would split the rest of the disk into two 1.5 approx gig partitions. Wrong. It split it into two 820 Meg partitions and I'm not sure what it did with the other 1.5 gig if anything (how do I tell?) Not what I want at all! Furthermore it went on to split the second disk into two 1.2 gig partitions, again with 800 meg unaccounted for. I never tried mounting any more than 2 partitions so I suppose the extra space could have been partitioned in some way. The next try was to force it to split the disks into 2 by telling nextstep to use 2 gig at installation. So I ended up with a 2 gig next partition running just fine. But what about the other 1.2 gig? Thought no problem, just run Fdisk from within Next and set up another 1.2 gig partition. Wrong again. Fdisk says "only one Next partition allowed" so I now have 1.2 gig of unusable (by Next) space! and also crazily partitioned second drive. I tried several other variations such as using DOS Fdisk to set up 2 equal partitions before installing Next over one of them but after installing theres no way to reallocate the other partition to Next. In fact I have now done at least 10 complete Next installations with various attempts at partitioning! Glad I installed a 16 speed CD-ROM drive! I would be very happy if I could get Next just to do the logical thing and split each disk in half or to have a 2 gig first partition and a 1.2 gig second partition on each disk. I dont need any other operating system on this machine as its for a specific Next application (Animo). Has anyone any ideas? Please? Thanks in advance! Andy.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: nyang@netcom.com (Nick Yang) Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Message-ID: <nyangE6ACo5.10n@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> <5f4ep4$l9e$1@news1.dn.net> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 23:45:41 GMT Sender: nyang@netcom3.netcom.com HI. Thank you all so much for your help. I got the machine without the manuals so I didn't know how to boot into single user mode. I guess I didn't look hard enought on the web to find out about this as some people told me this is a pretty common problem. I got the machine to boot into single user mode and replaced hostconfig and netinfo with fresh copies and it reboot fine again. Thank you all so much. I learned so much in the last 24 hours. I love the machine a lot and think it's a beautiful piece of art. Anyway, when I get home and I am going to play with it some more. Thank you all again. - Nick
From: KoopaTroopa <KoopaTroopa@prodigy.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: where2buy? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:50:44 -0500 Organization: Prodigy Internet Message-ID: <33161DD3.88C@prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where is the cheapest place for a student to buy a NeXT OS for Intel bundle? and about how large a partition would you guys recommend?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: where2buy? Message-ID: <1997Feb28.092756.26301@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 28 Feb 97 09:27:56 MST References: <33161DD3.88C@prodigy.net> Distribution: world Cc: KoopaTroopa@prodigy.net In <33161DD3.88C@prodigy.net> KoopaTroopa wrote: > Where is the cheapest place for a student to buy a NeXT OS for Intel > bundle? and about how large a partition would you guys recommend? > Your campus bookstore "should" be able order. All of the NeXTstep educational pruchases are made thrua company in Denver, CO. Check www.next.com for more info. The price is $299 for all the versions. I suggest as much room as you can afford for NeXTstep. There is quite of descent software for it and your hard disk will fill up fast... At home, I do ok with a 1 gig partition. I think that 1-2 gig should do.... -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Backup Software - SafetyNet Message-ID: <1997Feb28.093029.26302@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 28 Feb 97 09:30:29 MST References: <E6B7v2.Bx2@onevision.de> Distribution: world Cc: roland@onevision.de In <E6B7v2.Bx2@onevision.de> Roland Schwingel wrote: ... > So I tried to contact systemix (vendor of Safetynet) in order > to ask whether there is a new version. But I didn't got > any response right now. Are they still alive ? My Emails > didn't bounce. Their web page seems to be very old, too. ... I think they rae still alive. I have been using their backup software for over a year and it is just great! Anyway, they posted version 2.51 on ftp-peak and announced a special pricing policy for the next few weeks. I therefore think that they are still around... -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071
From: jwpark@softmagic.co.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is Video-CD player on NEXTSTEP 3.3? Date: 28 Feb 1997 01:34:44 GMT Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <5f5cnk$ira$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Keywords: VideoCD, mpeg-player If Video-CD player on NEXTSTEP is being, where is that software? JongWan Park. nisys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: criamon.omnigroup.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25575 comp.sys.next.software:28307 Andy Warne (andy@nutaumar.demon.co.uk) wrote: : My recent introduction into the world of NEXT has not been a happy : one! : I am trying to install Openstep 4.1 onto a Pentium Pro 200 with two : Quantum Fireball 3200 3.2 gig SCSI disks. : : [...] : : I would be very happy if I could get Next just to do the logical thing : and split each disk in half or to have a 2 gig first partition and a : 1.2 gig second partition on each disk. I dont need any other operating : system on this machine as its for a specific Next application (Animo). : Has anyone any ideas? Please? Try this: Install OpenStep on Disk A (sd0). (I assume this is already done.) Run fdisk on Disk B (sd1), first deleting all partitions then creating a single NeXT partition which fills the disk. Run "disk -i -p 4000000 /dev/rsd1h" to initialize Disk B with the first partition size set to 4000000 blocks (2GB) and the second holding any remaining space. (Watch the diagnostic output. If the size it's using for the first partition is wrong, abort with Control-C and retry the command, adjusting the block count appropriately. I think 4000000 might overflow, so you might try 3800000 or something.) Mount Disk B's first partition: "mount -v /dev/sd1a /DiskB". Copy the first partition of Disk A to Disk B with the command: dump 0f - / | (cd /DiskB; restore rf -) Shut down your machine, renumber your SCSI disks so Disk B is sd0 and Disk A is sd1 (so you can boot off Disk B and play with Disk A), and repeat the above procedure to set up Disk A as desired. Hope this helps! -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NO DAMN ANSWER FROM PEANUTS SOFTWARE !!! Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:01:10 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg39316.thr-d426f8.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <01bc2588$8a23e740$26564ec2@vanessa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg39316.thr-d426f8.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>samir@interpac.be,UseNet writes:</bold> >Nobody is doing anything at Peanuts Software to improve the >Next-Step/Openstep >community !! >I've tried for more than 3 times to purchase the The Peanuts Archive Disc >(PAD) NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FTP-Archive with E-mails and faxes, and nobody is >answering !!! >What the Hell is going on there !! If they want to be A REFerence in the >Next/Openstep >world they need to improve they services URGENTLY !!!! >I naïvly hope this message will improve the quality of the services !! Hmmm. I sent them a check in US funds and received my discs within 10 days. Perhaps because I didn't swear at them... -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: Jeff Sciortino <jjs2815@osfpop.isc.rit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Date: 28 Feb 1997 02:10:26 GMT Organization: Industrial Engieering Message-ID: <5f5eqi$1h1@news.isc.rit.edu> References: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> <5f452p$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) wrote: >Nick Yang (nyang@netcom.com) wrote: >: I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing >Try to boot up in single user mode. I'm don't know how to do this with >Next-hardware, but it should be in the NextAnswers. Then restore the NI >database with the default somewhere in /usr/template/client... When the first graphic comes up on the screen (something like checking hardware) hold down the command key and press the ~ key (in the numeric keypad section of the keyboard) This should get you a prompt that looks like: NEXT> Type: bsd -s hit <ENTER> This should boot from your scsi device (hard disk) in single user mode. I think the NeXTanswer that deals with this is called power on? best o' luck >========================================================================== >Winfried Bergmann | >Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper >i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page >==========================================================================
From: bisk@4dcomm.com (Stephen D. Biskis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT 3.3 Driver for PCMCIA ATA Drives ? Date: 28 Feb 1997 00:08:39 GMT Organization: 4D Global Internet Services Message-ID: <5f57m7$q9m@news.4dcomm.com> Keywords: PCMCIA touchscreen Driver Has anybody ever seen a NeXT Driver (v3.3) for those handy little ATAPI PCCard/Hard Drives that seem so popular on portables these days ? :) It seems kind of backwards that there is ready support for the Adaptec SlimSCSI but not the far more common (IDE on on a card). It can't be as easy as just using PCMCIABus, PCIC, and EIDE can it ? On a related note (to me), are there any touchscreen drivers out there besides that Wacom version. Thanks in advance, da bisk
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Backup Software - SafetyNet Date: 28 Feb 97 12:24:17 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb28122417@slave.one.net> References: <E6B7v2.Bx2@onevision.de> In-reply-to: roland@onevision.de's message of Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:59:26 GMT In article <E6B7v2.Bx2@onevision.de>, roland@onevision.de (Roland Schwingel) writes: So I tried to contact systemix (vendor of Safetynet) in order to ask whether there is a new version. But I didn't got any response right now. Are they still alive ? My Emails didn't bounce. Their web page seems to be very old, too. Keep trying. I talked, via email, with Brian not too long ago (month, two months?), and systemix recently posted on csn.announce. More than likely, he's just like me - I have a "real" job, which often takes precedence over secondary (and low-money) pursuits. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: deniseh@nntp.best.com (Denise Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Q:Reporting tool Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 28 Feb 1997 19:11:42 GMT Message-ID: <5f7ale$7ra$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> References: <E6BKEz.165@oic.de> Juergen Moellenhoff (jurgen@oic.de) wrote: : Hi, : I'm looking for reporting tools, but I don't know which report writers are : available for OPENSTEP 4.x/Mach and EOF? Can someone give me an : advice which tools are available (and usable)? If you mean database reporting tools, check out CompleteAccess by Ocean Software (info@oceansoft.com) or DaTASMITH by BLaCKSMITH (info@blacksmith.com). They are both outstanding. I don't know what their availability is for OPENSTEP (as opposed to NEXTSTEP), though. Denise -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: seeking alastair@Black_Albatross.otago.ac.nz Date: 28 Feb 1997 19:32:41 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5f7bsp$6fp@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Seeking the author of ScanMaker.app, who appararently is no longer at the above address, to talk about his app. Thanks for any info Babak Ashrafi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) Subject: SBook (does any still use this?) bug help Message-ID: <edewE6BxEs.838@netcom.com> Sender: edew@netcom12.netcom.com Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:11:16 GMT Ordinarily, I'd ask Sarrus Software, but I don't know if they're still around (although there's no harm in trying...). Anyway, I'm using SBook 3.1. The bug is when I click on the envelope icon (next to the address in the content field of an addresse). What happens is that if I muck with the size of the envelope printer panel (which comes up when i click on the envelope icon), the next time I launch the app and use the envelope icon, I get the envelope printer panel sized wrong. What is wrong? Well, about 50% of the panel is useless panelling. The envelope image field is reduced to some small amount. I have asked Sarrus about this and they told me what to do, but I have forgotten it. It was something like typing "dwrite NXApps sbook.app" or something like that on a command line. Can someone tell me what is the correct incantation? Since I don't read this newsgroup TOO often, perhaps respondees can cc the answer to me at edew@netcom.com. Thanks, EDEW
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Backup Software - SafetyNet Date: 28 Feb 1997 22:47:50 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <5f7nam$5s2@dropit.pgh.net> References: <E6B7v2.Bx2@onevision.de> <1997Feb28.093029.26302@roper.uwyo.edu> > I think they are still alive. I have been using their backup software for > over a year and it is just great! > Anyway, they posted version 2.51 on ftp-peak and announced a special pricing > policy for the next few weeks. I therefore think that they are still > around... Is that 2.51 or 2.5r1? I have the latter, but I don't want to spend a lot of tme downloading something I already have.. ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: andreas@lynet.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Please help! How do I install a printer? Date: 28 Feb 1997 22:48:15 GMT Organization: LyNet Kommunikation und Netzwerkdienste GmbH Message-ID: <5f7nbf$jat$2@lynet.de> Hello, I've been using OS/2 for the last 3 years, wich was fine. But I all the time thought about a change to a MultiUser-OS and when Apple made the deal with Next, I decided that OpenStep is the system for me. So I purchased a User + Dev. Version 4.1 and succeeded to install it on my PC (Intel Pentium). But what to do now. There's nearly no printed documentation, and I do not know how to print something. - How do I install a printer? I would like to connect to the Internet and get a driver for my ELSA 2000 AVI. - Is there a driver for that adapter out there? - What about an WWW-Browser and dialer to establish a PPP-Connection to my Provider. I would really appreciate, if someone could help me with that. The questions may sound stupid, so you see, I'm really a newcomer to OpenStep. Thanks in advance Andreas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TIFF to ICO conversion nightmare Message-ID: <33177131.1915@running-start.com> From: Eric Hermanson <eric@running-start.com> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:58:41 -0800 Organization: Running Start, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am having a heck of a time trying to convert .tiff files created and saved under NEXTSTEP into Windows compatible .ico files. There are several problems: 1. I haven't been able to find an application that goes from .tiff --> .ico that runs on Windows or NEXTSTEP. If I could find an app that does this, that would be great! 2. Assuming I won't be able to find a solution for #1, I'm also trying to find a Windows program that will read in NEXTSTEP .tiff files and convert them to .bmp or even .gif. I'm assuming it might be easier to find an app that goes from .bmp to .ico. 3. If I can get #2, I still need the .bmp --> .ico converter! If anyone has experience converting NeXT .tiff images (which may or may not contain alpha transparency) into Windows .ico files, please drop me a line. Thanks, Eric -- Running Start, Inc. * Ask About Our Software For: "The Enterprise Developer's Developer" * Workflow http://www.running-start.com * Web Commerce +1-520-760-4890 (4891 FAX) * Request Resolution eric@running-start.com * OPENSTEP/WebObjects/JAVA ================================ Homer Simpson Quote of the Week: Homer: (Offering Lisa a donut.) Donut? Lisa: Uhh... got any fruit? Homer: This one has purple in it. Purple's a fruit.
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to ICO conversion nightmare Date: 1 Mar 1997 00:58:56 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5f7v0g$31e$1@news.xmission.com> References: <33177131.1915@running-start.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Eric Hermanson <eric@running-start.com> wrote: > I am having a heck of a time trying to convert .tiff files created > and saved under NEXTSTEP into Windows compatible .ico files. This has come up many times; Andy Stone made a helpful post to his OPENSTEP mailing list which answers the problem pretty well. I'm appending it to this message--hopefully Andy won't mind. :-) Something like this probably ought to be added to a developer FAQ somewhere...StepWise might be a good place--Scott? :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a> Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:42:04 -0700 Old-Return-Path: andrew From: Andrew Stone <andrew@stone.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 14:41:48 -0700 To: OpenStep-NT@droid Subject: ICOs: Andrew's How-To Guide Reply-To: andrew@stone.com X-Url: „http://www.stone.com Resent-From: OpenStep-NT@stone.com X-Mailing-List: <OpenStep-NT@stone.com> archive/latest/18 X-Loop: OpenStep-NT@stone.com Resent-Sender: OpenStep-NT-request@stone.com How To make ICO's for your project: 1. On MACH using IconBuilder: a. Remove alpha from 48 by 48 <NAME>.tiff b. if you use white in your icon that is not meant to be transparent,floodfill the transparent areas with an unused primary color, such as green In IconPro on NT, you'll add back in the transparency on this color c. Save As... <NAME>48.tiff d. Save As... <NAME>32.tiff e. Run pagelayout and reduce size to 32 by 32, choose "Scale" f. Fix the bits where they got ugly g. Repeat, this time for <NAME>16.tiff, sized to 16 by 16 2. On MACH using OmniImage: a. open each of three tiffs in OmniImage b. Choose Save As... and select the .bmp format from popup. creating <NAME>48.bmp <NAME>32.bmp and <NAME>16.bmp 3. On NT using IconPro ( a demo program from MSDN - I can't give this out - check the web) a. File->New Icon b. Edit->Add Format... Do this up to 6 times with these formats: 16 * 16 4 bit 16 * 16 8 bit 32 * 32 4 bit 32 * 32 8 bit 48 * 48 4 bit 48 * 48 8 bit c. For each format: 1. select Edit->Import BMP 2. Choose <NAME>16.bmp for the 16 * 16, etc. that is, select the correct BMP for the size you are working on. d. In the lower left view is the XOR Mask 1. Control-Click on the color representing the transparency (eg green in the example above) e. Save the <NAME>.ico file in your project directory 4. Repeat steps 1 - 3 for document icons with file extensions 5. In Project Builder on either OS a. bring up Project Attributes Inspector b. choose OPENSTEP for Windows popup. c. Drag in the appIcon.ico into the app icon well d. For each document type: 1. click Add 2. type in file extension 3. type in <NAME>.ico for that type (it will appear in well if it's cool) e. Save project 6. AND THIS IS THE GOTCHA DUDES! The make process creates a .o file, appResources.o which gets linked into the .exe or .dll. IF YOU CHANGE YOUR .ico's, you had better delete this file so that it gets rebuilt, or you will scratch your head and bug your pals until you figure this out! 7. Now, from the directory above the appwrapper, in a terminal type: registerBundle <APPNAME>.app When you double click files, the app will open them (if you implement - (BOOL)application:(NSApplication *)sender openFile:(NSString *)path, that is!). When you drag your .exe into a Program Folder, the "correct" icon will show - although it may look pretty bad if you've been using NeXTSTEP for 8 years! Thanks to gracious Ali Ozer and Mike Monegan for their suggestions, the key ones of which I have herein enclosed: From: Ali Ozer <Ali_Ozer@next.com> To: OpenStep-NT@stone.com Subject: Re: ico,ico MSDN comes with a sample program called "IconPro" which lets you create multi-image ico files. You specify the depths and sizes of the images you want in the ico (typically 32x32, 256 color + 16x16, 256 color), then import icos or bmps into the various images. Unfortunately I can't make the program available because I don't think it is freely distributable. Assuming you have access to IconPro, your problem reduces to converting tiffs to bmp. The "Imaging" program which comes with NT4.0 is able to deal with tiffs without alpha; you can remove alpha from your tiffs, feed it into this program, save bmp, the import the bmp into IconPro... Something more sophisticated like Photoshop can probably also do this. Note that ico files do allow for 1-bit transparency (basically a mask). Turns out IconPro has a semi-hidden feature which allows you to restore transparency into your images --- in the XOR view, ctrl-click on the areas you want to be transparent. I think it will do a flood-fill to make the specified area transparent. BTW, I believe most of the NeXT icos were created from scratch. If you try scaling your beautiful 48x48 icos down to 32x32 automatically you might also decide this is the best way to go... Ali From: Mike Monegan <Mike_Monegan@next.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 12:04:34 -0800 To: andrew@stone.com Subject: Re: ico,ico REDUX There is a program run at build time called regGen, which generates an object file containing your ico's you put in the app's project inspector in PB. The ico's are placed at specific indices in the app's binary and referred to in the appResources.reg (also output by regGen). Thus, registerBundle loads up the registry references to the ICO's in your binary. Each time registerBundle is run, it overwrites the previous registration for the app. ... --- ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| !! Andrew Stone (505) 345-4800 !! !! andrew@stone.com „http://www.stone.com !! ||<<->>||< How you perceive reality morphs it >||<<->>|| Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:33:46 -0700 Old-Return-Path: aisbell@ix.netcom.com From: Art Isbell <aisbell@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 14:12:05 -0800 To: OpenStep-NT@stone.com Subject: Re: ICOs: Andrew's How-To Guide Reply-To: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Resent-From: OpenStep-NT@stone.com X-Mailing-List: <OpenStep-NT@stone.com> archive/latest/19 X-Loop: OpenStep-NT@stone.com Resent-Sender: OpenStep-NT-request@stone.com Thanks very much to Andrew for the great ICO-ICO HowTo (now sing along, folks :-) > 6. AND THIS IS THE GOTCHA DUDES! The make process creates a .o > file, appResources.o which gets linked into the .exe or .dll. IF > YOU > CHANGE YOUR .ico's, you had better delete this file so that it gets > > rebuilt, or you will scratch your head and bug your pals until you > figure this out! Would something like the following NT-specific Makefile.postamble entry help: appResources.o: $(APPICON) $(DOCICONS) The specific make macros may be different depending on OS version. --- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: bungi@omnigroup.com (Timothy J. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can Citrix WinFrame be used to distribute OSE windows? Date: 28 Feb 1997 16:37:10 -0800 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5f7tnm$e9@gaea.titan.org> References: <5f4cei$8n3@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Sure can. We are doing this currently. There are some gotchas though: - Each user has to set the variable NSSESSIONNAME to their environment to some unique value. This changes the port names that various servers (like the WindowServer and pbs) vend to client applications. Happily, WinCenter/Pro (the version of WinFrame that we are using) exports a %WINSTATIONNAME% variable that is set to WinCenter#001.. WinCenter#NNN automatically based on which virtual terminal you are connected to. Unhappily, you can't set this variable in the system wide preferences and have it get substituted correctly (NSSESSIONNAME will get set to the literal value rather than the interpreted value). One workaround is the have each user define this variable in their user environment variables. This sucks, so I wrote a little program that inserts the correct variable in the registry and then added the program to the startup group. - NeXT doesn't have all of the kinks worked out in the NSSESSIONNAME support in 4.1. It's pretty solid, but there are a few problems with ProjectBuilder talking with gdb and sometimes applications will incorrectly decide that you are already running a copy of that app and will exit after attempting to tell the supposed original copy to order front (hopefully fixed for 4.2). - The performance isn't blazing. OPENSTEP does use GDI, just not very wisely. This is a good and bad thing. Good since the WindowServer isn't cluttered with a ton of GDI code and bad since the way they did use GDI was to have the WindowServer draw into the window with a bitblt. That is, when you send the image across the net to your Xterm, you are sending a bit image. If you are using some NEC Xterms, though, the image will get compressed on the wire (the WinFrame manuals talk about this). - The color palette code is not that good. X terms have a specific color map and if you use a color not in that map, it will show up so something else, typically gray. This is only a problem on certain Xterms and only if you are in 8bit indexed color mode. For example, Solaris in 8bpp experiences this bug. On the good side, you can use it with some success with co-Xist (pretty slow) and not have to log into NT. Also, WinCenter contains support for serving as an XDM. If you set your terminal up to use the WinCenter machine as its XDM server (or if it is on the same subnet and your Xterm find it via broadcast), then you will get a normal NT login panel -- you can barely tell you are using X windows. Drop me a line if you have any more specific questions. I may not have the time to answer really detailed questions, but I may have a quick answer since this is what I've been doing for the past six months :) -tim aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: > Citrix offers what appears to be a GDI window server and client. This >allows Windows apps to run on a computer running a Citrix-modified version of >Windows NT which with their windows appearing on remote computers running >Citrix window server software. This is analogous to NSHosting or the more >common X Window window client/server technology. > But since OSE windows aren't "pure" GDI windows (a DPS window server >draws the window contents), we wonder whether Citrix will work with OSE apps. >Does anyone know? >-- >Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com >Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 >OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 > managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:53:39 -0500 Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <3315F453.4BA6@worldbank.org> References: <E69Is9.4vp@papageno.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hiroshi TOMARU wrote: > I have skimmed Apple's web pages but could not find the answer: > (1) Will OPENSTEP standard applications (such as WorkSpace, Edit, > etc.) run in Rhapsody? I would assume that there would be functional equivalents to these apps. > (2) Will current third-party applications for NEXTSTEP run in > Rhapsody? Not as is. But if my reading of the material on the Openstep site is right, any Openstep app will probably only require a recompile. > (3) Will UNIX commands run in Rhapsody? Even though this thought seems to terrify some Mac people, I would expect that yes, they would, through a terminal window. All based on intelligent conjecture based on what's been said so far, not on any inside knowledge. -- Stefano Pagiola 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to ICO conversion nightmare Date: 1 Mar 1997 00:52:12 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5f7ujt$bjm$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <33177131.1915@running-start.com> Cc: eric@running-start.com In <33177131.1915@running-start.com> Eric Hermanson wrote: > I am having a heck of a time trying to convert .tiff files created and > saved under NEXTSTEP into Windows compatible .ico files. There are > several problems: > > 1. I haven't been able to find an application that goes from .tiff --> > .ico that runs on Windows or NEXTSTEP. If I could find an app that does > this, that would be great! > > 2. Assuming I won't be able to find a solution for #1, I'm also trying > to find a Windows program that will read in NEXTSTEP .tiff files and > convert them to .bmp or even .gif. I'm assuming it might be easier to > find an app that goes from .bmp to .ico. How about a Nextstep program for .tiff -> .bmp and/or .gif? OmniImage.app from OmniGroup does this. Or, you could try working with pbmtools. > 3. If I can get #2, I still need the .bmp --> .ico converter! Not sure if there's an easy way to do that or not. > If anyone has experience converting NeXT .tiff images (which may or may > not contain alpha transparency) into Windows .ico files, please drop me > a line. I do have some experience transfering images between NeXT tiff and Windows bmp formats.. and almost invariably I found that Nextsteps tools are far superior to the Windows tools. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: cfwood@vcn.bc.ca (Colin Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PEANUTS CDROM ARCHIVE Date: 1 Mar 1997 04:29:06 GMT Organization: Vancouver CommunityNet Message-ID: <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> I also have emailed for information on ordering the cdrom and have also got no reply. Whats up with these guys?
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: 1 Mar 1997 05:38:38 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5f8fcu$qop@news.platinum.com> References: <331414D7.488@ix.netcom.com> <AF39F574-114A06@207.147.51.249> Cc: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net In <AF39F574-114A06@207.147.51.249> it appeared that "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 1997 5:47 AM, Mark Trombino <mailto:mtrombin@ix.netcom.com> > wrote: > > The next beta version of RadicalNews (due out in March) will support > > internal MIME messages. It is *by far* the best newsreader I have ever > > used on ANY platform and strongly incourage others to try it out! > > The UI is great on RadicalNews, but the performance on my Turbo Cube is > slow as molasses even with a 28.8 connection. That Kiwi Newsreader is much > faster, but I don't know if it supports MIME. Hmm... I'm running RadicalNews on a TurboSlab, and it performs pretty well. (I do have a T1 to the net, but it's high-traffic most of the time.) I do have the slow link box checked in the preferences-NewsSources panel. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: jjhuang@min.dorm12.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Virtual Desktop in NeXTSTEP/OpenStep? Date: 1 Mar 1997 05:36:04 GMT Organization: Dept. Comp. Sci. & Info. Eng., Chiao-Tung Univ., Taiwan Message-ID: <5f8f84$otq@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Hello, I think maybe many people used Virtual Desktop in fvwm(an X Window Manager) or that in Win95, I think this function is very useful in small monitor, ex. 15 inch, even 17" monitor. Virtual Desktop is that I have 1024x768 region to use, but only display at 800x600 resolution. And the dock is at the position of 1024x768 and not go with your view of 800x600. This function must come with Display Driver, because many Display Card support Virtual Desktop if your RAM on Display Card enough. I used VirtScreen. It is not so good, but still usable. But VirtScreen is only demo version now, I can't see any order method. Is there Virtual Desktop Driver on NeXTSTEP? Or how can I purchase VirtScreen? Thanks in advance. -- ¶À«T³Ç = Jiunn-jye Huang Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ ===============================#========================================= Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server ===============================#=========================================
From: jjhuang@min.dorm12.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there French dictionary? Date: 1 Mar 1997 06:22:39 GMT Organization: Dept. Comp. Sci. & Info. Eng., Chiao-Tung Univ., Taiwan Message-ID: <5f8hvf$qch@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Hello, Recently I begin to learn French, and I wonder if there is French dictionary in NeXTSTEP? I want both French-French and French-English. Commercial or Free are all ok. And if commercial, please tell me how to order and how much. Thanks in advance. -- ¶À«T³Ç = Jiunn-jye Huang Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ ===============================#========================================= Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server ===============================#=========================================
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: html2rtf Date: 1 Mar 1997 06:35:01 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm100-08.dialip.mich.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <5f8iml$8k4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> Cc: phm@eqt.ch In <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> phm@eqt.ch wrote: > Hi > > > Does somebody know how I could convert html to rtf? > I found some sources on the net, but the results are not so convincing and I don©t want to pay too much for it. > It makes me sad, to see how OmniWeb converts html->sgml->rtf, but I don©t find a way to save it in rtf. Am I missing something? > > > Regards > Phil > > Hi, I just copy and paste from OmniWeb to Edit.app or any other apps. Works fine for me, except that the links look a little funny - they look _like this_ instead of being blue. Good luck. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: phm@eqt.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: html2rtf Date: 28 Feb 1997 22:59:28 GMT Organization: University of Geneva Distribution: world Message-ID: <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> Summary: html2rtf Keywords: html2rtf Hi Does somebody know how I could convert html to rtf? I found some sources on the net, but the results are not so convincing and I don©t want to pay too much for it. It makes me sad, to see how OmniWeb converts html->sgml->rtf, but I don©t find a way to save it in rtf. Am I missing something? Regards Phil
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Dvips and 600dpi --- how can I force fonts to be generated? Date: 28 Feb 1997 16:19:53 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5f70j9$3rt$3@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5f4eoc$chk@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) wrote: >I want to convert my dvi file into postscript, but temporarily do not >have my 400 dpi printer. Rather, I cansend it to a 600dpi printer. >How can I induce TeX to create the fonts rather than scaling the >400 dpi fonts. This latter solution seems to look ugly on the 600dpi >printer. Look for ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Text/tex/library/600dpi.V1.d.ta r.gz Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: Andy@nutaumar.demon.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help please with disk partition problem! Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 09:21:50 GMT Message-ID: <331cf4e7.2448942@news.demon.co.uk> References: <5f4tkq$qfb$2@mail.pl.unisys.com> <5f5e9h$1k9@gaea.titan.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) wrote: >Andy Warne (andy@nutaumar.demon.co.uk) wrote: >: My recent introduction into the world of NEXT has not been a happy >: one! >: I am trying to install Openstep 4.1 onto a Pentium Pro 200 with two >: Quantum Fireball 3200 3.2 gig SCSI disks. >: >: [...] >: >: I would be very happy if I could get Next just to do the logical thing >: and split each disk in half or to have a 2 gig first partition and a >: 1.2 gig second partition on each disk. I dont need any other operating >: system on this machine as its for a specific Next application (Animo). >: Has anyone any ideas? Please? > >Try this: > >Install OpenStep on Disk A (sd0). (I assume this is already done.) > >Run fdisk on Disk B (sd1), first deleting all partitions then creating >a single NeXT partition which fills the disk. > >Run "disk -i -p 4000000 /dev/rsd1h" to initialize Disk B with the >first partition size set to 4000000 blocks (2GB) and the second >holding any remaining space. (Watch the diagnostic output. If the >size it's using for the first partition is wrong, abort with Control-C >and retry the command, adjusting the block count appropriately. I >think 4000000 might overflow, so you might try 3800000 or something.) > >Mount Disk B's first partition: "mount -v /dev/sd1a /DiskB". > >Copy the first partition of Disk A to Disk B with the command: > > dump 0f - / | (cd /DiskB; restore rf -) > >Shut down your machine, renumber your SCSI disks so Disk B is sd0 and >Disk A is sd1 (so you can boot off Disk B and play with Disk A), and >repeat the above procedure to set up Disk A as desired. > >Hope this helps! >-- >Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com >Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com This nearly worked but /etc/disk split the remaining disk space into 2 again resulting in 3 partitions! I wrote a disktab entry in the end. Andy.
From: schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Date: 1 Mar 1997 11:10:17 GMT Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <schumach-0103971211560001@129.194.16.71> References: <E69Is9.4vp@papageno.rim.or.jp> > (3) Will UNIX commands run in Rhapsody? > > These questions may seem silly but I'm serious. > It's getting harder and harder to stay on NEXTSTEP on INTEL > hardware because I cannot get any state-of-the-art > applications for NS and SoftPC can only run 16bit Windows > applications. So if Rhapsody enables me to run Mac and OS > applications and UNIX commands simultaneously, I think it's > worth considering the transfer to PowerPC architecture. > --- > Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji > hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB) www.macintouch.com today had the following message: Rhapsody should include the option of a scriptable, command-line interface, according to one reader: "Noting that NeXTStep allows a user to drop into a command-line with either a c-shell or k-shell, I asked whether there would be a way to get to the command line in Rhapsody. The answer was 'yes.' Not only that, but I was told that my all my shell scripts should work as-is when brought to the new system." End of quote Jorg Schumacher Geneva Switzerland
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Please help! How do I install a printer? Date: 1 Mar 1997 13:05:48 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5f99jc$1p6@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5f7nbf$jat$2@lynet.de> In-Reply-To: <5f7nbf$jat$2@lynet.de> On 02/28/97, andreas@lynet.de wrote: > But what to do now. There's nearly no printed documentation, > and I do not know how to print something. > I think you should find most of the documentation you need online -- try using Librarian.app to search through /NextLibrary/Documentation > - How do I install a printer? > Use /NextApps/PrintManager.app -- it's fairly straightforward. > I would like to connect to the Internet and get a driver > for my ELSA 2000 AVI. > > - Is there a driver for that adapter out there? > Not sure -- there's one for ELSA WINNER 2000PRO/X -- will that do? > - What about an WWW-Browser and dialer to establish > a PPP-Connection to my Provider. > There are two excellent WWW browsers, NetSurfer and OmniWeb: http://www.netsurfer.com/ http://www.omnigroup.com/ I'll leave the PPP question for others! Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: software for microtek scanner? Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:05:40 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Message-ID: <E6D2tG.Js@micmac.com> References: <5f45ds$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Cc: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de This was written in comp.sys.next.software (<5f45ds$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>) by Bergmann Winfried: > Hello, > I just got a used Microtek ScanmakerII. I works under Windows, but I'd like > to use it with NS. Is there any scanner software, which works with this? > (I already tried ScanMaker, but it doesn't recognice my scanner). > > thanx > winfried > > Like me you have no chance at all. _NO_ NeXTstep scanner software works with Microtek scannners!!! =:((((((((( mc
From: gxa114@wileypost.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Date: 1 Mar 1997 14:17:20 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5f9dpg$1bt6@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <E69Is9.4vp@papageno.rim.or.jp> Hiroshi TOMARU (hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp) wrote: : (3) Will UNIX commands run in Rhapsody? The Mach microkernel will be used, so I would assume the answer is yes. : These questions may seem silly but I'm serious. : It's getting harder and harder to stay on NEXTSTEP on INTEL : hardware because I cannot get any state-of-the-art : applications for NS and SoftPC can only run 16bit Windows : applications. So if Rhapsody enables me to run Mac and OS : applications and UNIX commands simultaneously, I think it's : worth considering the transfer to PowerPC architecture. I love the PPC arcitecture, but you shouldn't have to switch. Rhapsody will also be available for Intel (I have heard nothing of the other openstep systems) Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114@cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Date: 1 Mar 1997 17:04:27 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm285-15.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5f9nir$6si$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <E69Is9.4vp@papageno.rim.or.jp> <5f9dpg$1bt6@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Cc: gxa114@wileypost.cac.psu.edu In <5f9dpg$1bt6@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> GEOF ABRUZZI wrote: > Hiroshi TOMARU (hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp) wrote: > : (3) Will UNIX commands run in Rhapsody? > The Mach microkernel will be used, so I would assume the answer is yes. > > : These questions may seem silly but I'm serious. > : It's getting harder and harder to stay on NEXTSTEP on INTEL > : hardware because I cannot get any state-of-the-art > : applications for NS and SoftPC can only run 16bit Windows > : applications. So if Rhapsody enables me to run Mac and OS > : applications and UNIX commands simultaneously, I think it's > : worth considering the transfer to PowerPC architecture. > I love the PPC arcitecture, but you shouldn't have to switch. Rhapsody > will also be available for Intel (I have heard nothing of the other > openstep systems) > But it will not run the old Mac software. The backward compatibility might be important at least for a few years. I am thinking about PowerMac with Rhapsody and an Intel board inside. That way one would get OpenStep, old Mac software and Wintel compatibility too. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: David Carpenter <dcarpent@voicenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Framemaker and Openstep 4.1 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 13:10:41 -0500 Organization: none Message-ID: <33187121.37C7@voicenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone tell me, based on their own experience, whether Framemaker 3.0 runs under Openstep 4.1? I'm trying to decide whether to upgrade from Nextstep 3.1 to Openstep 4.1, and I have a lot of documents in Framemaker. Thanks in advance for any help. David Carpenter dcarpent@sju.edu
From: "Jean Paul Ladue" <jpladue@telerama.lm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NextStep for Intel. Date: 1 Mar 1997 19:08:24 GMT Organization: Stargate Industries, Inc. Message-ID: <01bc2673$d78f0460$71b797ce@jeanladu> Where can I find information on NextStep for Intel? I wednt to the Next website but had no luck, all I found was a bunch info about OpenStep. Also what is the academic price for NextStep. Thanks. -- ------------------------------- Email: jpladue@telerama.lm.com jpladue@sgi.net WWW: http://www.lm.com/~jpladue -- "Once I was a happy space pirate looting and pillaging, then POOF I'm as dumb as a doornail." -- ++==-- Brak, Cartoon Planet --==++
From: jjh@powwow.eng.sun.com (Jim Holmlund) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Re: Configure Solaris Openstep Desktop Date: 01 Mar 1997 19:09:28 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <JJH.97Mar1110928@powwow.eng.sun.com> References: <3312377E.2941@analog.com> <3314B6D8.1D09@ny.ubs.com> In-reply-to: Michael Lewis's message of Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:19:04 -0500 > > 3. Multiple workspace displays like CDE. One can be so productive > by > just clicking onto a different display area. > > This is one of the main reasons I don't use Openstep at work ( I do at > home ). > You can run OpenStep under CDE. Just start CDE and then run openstep from a shell. The last time I tried this, there were some problems, but you can experiment with it, for example try it with oswm and then with dtwm. > the mailer is 'cute' but it lacks some basic features like it can't > auto include > signatures or auto-intend/include the original mail you are replying > to. Version 1.1 will append your .signature file to outgoing msgs. In the compose window, clicking the Forward (I think) button includes the original msg. You can then use the Wrap and Reply Terminal service to prepend '> ' to the original lines. Not as easy as vm in xemacs, but ... (Version 1.1 contains a menu item in the Compose menu to do all this with one click.) > One feature I'm trying to figure out myself is how to set the icon image > > and Dock image for non-openstep apps. Currently the are all assigned > the same terminal image which makes it hard to tell what the app really > does. > We have a script that will do this. If you are interested, let me know and I will see if I can send it to you. We also have an app to do this with a GUI, but I don't think it made it into the 1.1 release. (You can also look in the Demos directory in the 1.1 release and you will see some examples.) Usage: makeapp [-icon icon-pathname] [-suffix suffix [suffix-icon]]... -prog prog-name [app-name] Make an OpenStep .app wrapper for a Unix command. Ex. makeapp -prog bugtool 'icon-pathname' is the pathname of a .tiff file to use as the icon for the app. If omitted, a default icon will be used. 'suffix' is a suffix to which this app responds and 'suffix-icon' is the pathname of a .tiff file to be used for this suffix. 'prog-name' is the name of the program to run. If it is not an absolute pathname, then it must be locateable via 'which'. 'app-name' is the pathname to create; eg. mine.app. If it is not specified, then ./`basename xeq-name.app` will be used. -- Jim Holmlund - OpenStep Development; jim.holmlund@eng.sun.com
From: ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trouble installing teTeX Date: 1 Mar 1997 19:39:06 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5fa0kq$r7g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I know, its supposed to be easy. I installed the latest version of teTeX and TeXView so I could move from latex209 to latex2e. I set the path in my .cshrc and for root as well and deleted the old TeXVieW. My old files apparently compile fine, but in (the new) TeXView, there are no letters, just blocks of different sizes. I can latex from the command line without error, but dvips from the command line gives dvips: ! Couldn't find header file tex.pro and neither could I. Attempts to print from TeXView fail without any errors in the app, the console, or /usr/admin/messages. When I downloaded, the sums for the packages latex-base and tetex-base did not correspond to those listed in CHECKSUMS. But repeated attempts to download gave consistent results and installation went without a hitch. The Turbo NeXTStation I am using now never had NeXTTeX on it. I know lots of NeXT folks are using teTeX very happily, but can't figure out how I messed up. Appreciate any help, Babak Ashrafi
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PEANUTS CDROM ARCHIVE Date: 1 Mar 1997 20:36:49 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <5fa411$kbn@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> Cc: cfwood@vcn.bc.ca In <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> Colin Wood wrote: > I also have emailed for information on ordering the cdrom and have also > got no reply. Whats up with these guys? > I've already ordered the CD over a month ago. The first 2 times I sent e-mail inquiries I never heard back. Yesterday I got an e-mail reply to me 3rd inquiry. So, they are trying to work with potential customers but seem to have some problems. Has anybody in North America rec'd the CD yet? How long from the time you ordered to the time it arrived? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Animation for Black Hardware? Date: 1 Mar 1997 21:29:05 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5fa731$dia@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> <33113B5C.37FB@earthlink.net> <5evkl0$dh7@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> In-Reply-To: <5evkl0$dh7@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> On 02/25/97, Robert Worne wrote: > That's an odd site... under "NEEDS" it states: > > "Animo works under a UNIX-based operating system that allows for reliable > multitasking, built in networking, high-resolution graphics, and an easy to > use interface. It also allows easy integration into mixed SGI, Windows NT > and Macintosh environments." > > UNIX-based operating system? What the heck is that supposed to mean? SGI? > Or are they no longer running under NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? > No, I think they're giving the NEXTSTEP feature list without mentioning NEXTSTEP per se -- "The OS that dare not speak its name"! :-) A bit like the description of the SignaStation on Linotype's site: http://www.linotype.co.uk/26c2.htm I've heard rumours that Animo is being ported to other systems, though (maybe it already has been and I've not heard?). Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Date: 1 Mar 1997 21:31:06 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5fa76q$djj@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <E69Is9.4vp@papageno.rim.or.jp> <5f9dpg$1bt6@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <5f9nir$6si$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <5f9nir$6si$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> On 03/01/97, Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > But it will not run the old Mac software. The backward compatibility might > be important at least for a few years. > In which case you might consider ARDI's Executor running on Intel..? http://www.ardi.com/ Best wishes, mmalc. --
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 17:41:05 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re: midi for openstep Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <857259240.3323@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <331568FC.1485@prodigy.net> In article <331568FC.1485@prodigy.net>, KoopaTroopa@prodigy.net wrote: > > does anyone know of any good midi sequencing or digital multitrack > recording software for OpenStep Intel? Please point me in the right > direction Here are a few useful links and some apps that might fit the bill. Try these URLS http://www.music.princeton.edu:80/PSK/rt.html http://www.nwlink.com/cyberartists/brianw/sounds.html http://www.singular.com/AD64x.html http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/CCRMA/Software/MusicKit/MusicKit.html Also these are still apparently available: NoteAbility NoteAbility is a professional music notation package for NeXTStep computers. Developed by Dr. Keith Hamel at the University of British Columbia, it is easily the most sophisticated music notation software available on any platform. NoteAbility combines both musical intelligence and graphical flexibility in a direct and intuitive graphical user interface. Notate anything from simple melodies to complex avant garde orchestral music, play the score on your MIDI synthesizer or through your DSP board and print a publishable copy of your score on your PostScript laser printer. The extensive on-line help files included in the program will provide you with all the information you need to install and use this application.If you have been frustrated by the awkwardness and inflexibility of other notation programs then you definitely should have a look at NoteAbility. Pricing Price: $495 Site Licenses: CALL Educational Pricing: Additional Information Demo Available: Opus 1 Music Inc. 449 East 37th Ave. Vancouver, B.C. Canada V5W 1E8 (604) 321-1107 (604) 321-1107 (Fax) opusone@unixg.ubc.ca ProductionPartner ProductionPartner is a professional tool for harddisk-recording, playing, editing and archiving of high quality (CD) sounds. You can rearrange, cut, paste and edit sounds. Sounds can be collected in archives called playlists which are unities within ProductionPartner. Architectures NS for Mach/HP PA/Risc: YES NS for Mach/Intel: YES NS for Mach/m68k: YES NS for Mach/Sparc: YES Pricing Price: CALL Site Licenses: $ 295 Educational Pricing:CALL Additional Information Email:info@rcnhost.dasburo.de_ Demo Available: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/Audio_ Realtime Computing and Nets (RCN)_ Flotowstrasse 2 Berlin Germany D-13583 +49 30 8340107 +49 30 8340108 (Fax) info@rcnhost.dasburo.de -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Freeware/Shareware Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 22:45:26 -0700 Organization: Electric Lightwave, Inc. Message-ID: <331913F6.3E338961@konnections.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you're looking for NeXT ware for a number of platforms, try the Big Green CD. This is a number of freely available packages compiled for NexXT.... -Mike Allison
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LINUX on M68k Box Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 22:51:11 -0700 Organization: Electric Lightwave, Inc. Message-ID: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really be a screamer for most everything. NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. If you can/know.... email me mallison@konnections.com Thanks, -Mike
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 2 Mar 1997 04:36:39 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm167-13.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fb04n$mc4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> Cc: mallison@konnections.com In <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> mike allison wrote: > Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT > systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these > machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really > be a screamer for most everything. > > NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to > mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. > > If you can/know.... email me mallison@konnections.com > > Thanks, > > -Mike > I am running NS 3.2 and am not moving to OpenStep. If it is not a screamer, at least I don't have to scream. Could tell me why one would want to run Linux instead of NeXTstep 3.2 [That idea scares me and DOES make me scream]. I might be missing a point, so I would like learn .... Good luck. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970302.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970209.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970216.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 02 Mar 1997 00:00:00 -0700 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
From: phm@eqt.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: html2rtf Date: 2 Mar 1997 09:11:22 GMT Organization: University of Geneva Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fbg7q$hs6@uni2f.unige.ch> References: <5f8iml$8k4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> In Re: html2rtf comp.sys.next.software <ArticleDisplayer: 0x904dc> writes, > In <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> phm@eqt.ch wrote: >> Hi >> >> >> Does somebody know how I could convert html to rtf? >> I found some sources on the net, but the results are not so convincing and > I don©t want to pay too much for it. >> It makes me sad, to see how OmniWeb converts html->sgml->rtf, but I don©t > find a way to save it in rtf. Am I missing something? > Hi, I just copy and paste from OmniWeb to Edit.app or any other apps. Works > fine for me, except that the links look a little funny - they look _like > this_ instead of being blue. At my place, I have several changes compared to the initial layout: Paragraphs are centered, fonts, sizes are different, no bullets, etc. And what do you make with tables? Regards Phil
From: Roberto Fabbretti <Roberto.Fabbretti@dim.hcuge.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Compiling mSQL for Nextstep 3.3 Intel and Motorola Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 12:12:18 +0100 Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <33196092.356D@dim.hcuge.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A friend of mine and myself are trying unsuccessfully to compile msql 1.16 on Intel and Motorola platform with no success. On Intel the proble is that after making the target the make all instruction fails because it does not find the include files, in particular <paths.h> On motorola it fails because of a DIRENT problem Has anyone a clue???
From: Robert Trout <rtrout@capecod.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem with PPP and OmniWeb Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 10:04:34 -0600 Message-ID: <3319A512.353D@capecod.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For every URL I specify using the "www.xxx.yyy" format, OmniWeb responds with host does not exists. If I specify my internet service provider's IP address, OmniWeb responds connection refused. My PPP connection seems to be working fine (the log looks good and I can ping my provider's host). Why does my provider and OmniWeb not get along? I can connect with no problems using my Win95/PC. Thanks in advance for your help. Bob Trout rtrout@capecod.net
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problem with PPP and OmniWeb Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 11:12:09 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <on6OPNC00iWm03O9o0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <3319A512.353D@capecod.net> In-Reply-To: <3319A512.353D@capecod.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 2-Mar-97 Problem with PPP and OmniWeb by Robert Trout@capecod.net > For every URL I specify using the "www.xxx.yyy" format, OmniWeb responds with > host does not exists. If I specify my internet service provider's IP > address, OmniWeb responds connection refused. Did you set up the resolver by adding nameservers into the /etc/resolv.conf file? Take a look at 'man 5 resolver'. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trouble installing teTeX Date: 2 Mar 1997 17:22:13 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <5fcd05$ae0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5fa0kq$r7g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi (ashrafi@mit.edu) wrote: : I installed the latest version of teTeX and TeXView so I could move from : latex209 to latex2e. I set the path in my .cshrc and for root as well and : deleted the old TeXVieW. My old files apparently compile fine, but in : (the new) TeXView, there are no letters, just blocks of different sizes. Most likely you have in your old .cshrc various environment variables related to TeX and TeXview (possibly also in your defaults database). REMOVE THEM! You may later add some stuff, if really needed, once you will learn how kpathsea searches work. Also check, with 'texconfig confall', if your configuration is really correct. : I can latex from the command line without error, but dvips from the : command line gives : dvips: ! Couldn't find header file tex.pro : and neither could I. ..../texmf/dvips/base/tex.pro Are you sure that you are not trying to call and old copy of TeXview and/or dvips? There seem to be still something misconfigured in your installation. As the first test try: dvips -o /dev/null my_new_dvi What happens? If you pick up 'test page' in 'texconfig' menu does it print properly? Michal
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trouble installing teTeX Date: 2 Mar 1997 17:38:20 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm168-15.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fcduc$ic7$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5fa0kq$r7g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <5fcd05$ae0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Cc: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca > > : I installed the latest version of teTeX and TeXView so I could move from > : latex209 to latex2e. I set the path in my .cshrc and for root as well and > : deleted the old TeXVieW. My old files apparently compile fine, but in > : (the new) TeXView, there are no letters, just blocks of different sizes. > Hello, in order to run LaTeX2e one doesn't need to install teTeX and new TeXView. I use InstantTeX.app (often in manual mode, without the 'instant tex' option on). In InstantTeX one can chooose two custom versions of TeX. That allows me to use LaTeX2e quite successfully. Good luck. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: jake@msn.com (Kyle Stoyan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops Subject: Free Winfaxpro Software Date: 2 Mar 1997 19:46:25 GMT Organization: Microsoft Message-ID: <5fcleh$o6l@news.atlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 visit http://members.tripod.com/~faxsite/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702271426.JAA07727@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: a565698a8cead0efb20c45d48912d5ac - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 97 09:26:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Mail.App Sorting Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: a565698a8cead0efb20c45d48912d5ac - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: rvose@ix.netcom.com (R. Vose) Original Date: 27 Feb 1997 04:27:22 GMT > Is there a program out there which will automatically sort incoming > email to a specific .mbox when it arrives? > > I've been hunting around the peak ftp site and found > mailapp-utilities, but that looks to be command-line driven. As Scott already mentioned, there is some procmail/Mail.app info on my Web page (http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/). The mailapp-utilities are commandline driven, as is procmail. I believe Eloquent is also able to do this, you should find a link to it on that page as well (under 'mail programs' or something terribly complex such as that ;-) procmail really is the way to go. The first step on the learning curve is the hardest, and there's a great procmail mailing list from which I have learned everything I know about procmail. I started using it about 2 years ago, just sorting mailing lists away from my INBOX. Now I've got one set of procmail recipes at peak.org doing presorting and autoresponding, and another set of recipes on my own machine, which does the following: - dumping messages from bad domains (ie known spam-only domains) - automatically updating my list of known-spammers-email addresses (thanks to a spam-list which makes this information very easy to get, add to the killfile, and delete the message) - breaks up email "digests" into individual messages (I read the NeXT newsgroups this way, which has the advantage of being completely readable off-line, USENET posts go through my personal kill files, and the messages are set to be read and replied to through the very same Mail.app that I use all day) - sorts and sorts and sorts In fact, I'm so procmail-crazed that I have hacked ("hacked" in this case meaning held together with paper clips, bubble-gum, duct-tape and prayer) a setup that when mail gets delivered to peak.org it checks to see if I am online via PPP and if so (and if the message is to me and not to a list) then it tells my machine to pop my mail home -- it's like getting instant email delivery through dynamic PPP. Anyway, now you've done it, I've run off about procmail again (and why not, I'd be lost without it). procmail is a powerful, free tool that I'd be lost without. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) PEAK OpenStep/NeXTStep FTP NeXTStepping since '91 Use `luomat@peak.org' for any email-contact Remove `luomat@nerc.com' from any trace of your memory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702251602.LAA19771@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: dfa41aab0e89c93164b70188cceb23a5 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 11:02:24 -0500 Subject: Re: sendmail recipe requested Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: dfa41aab0e89c93164b70188cceb23a5 - Return-Receipt-To: user@sfasu.edu Responding To: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> Original Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:37:36 -0600 Message-ID: dfa41aab0e89c93164b70188cceb23a5 - > Does anyone know a sendmail recipe that will convert > > user@sfasu.edu > to > user@TITAN.sfasu.edu ? > > I.e., I want to replace @sfasu.edu with @TITAN.sfasu.edu on any > outgoing message. sure, put this in an executable file and save as '/usr/local/bin/sendmail-sed' #!/bin/sh sed 's/@sfasu\.edu/@TITAN\.sfasu\.edu/g' | /usr/lib/sendmail "$@" Then change you Mail.app preferences mailer to /usr/local/bin/sendmail-sed You aren't, by change, using sendmail to 'masquerade_ad' "sfasu.edu" but can't send mail to non-local (on your machine) users at 'sfasu.edu" are you? If so I am having the same problem here (using 'peak.org'). Note: that script is quick & dirty and not guaranteed. I actually have not tried it myself but running it through and checking the output the address was changed. There's no reason I can think of that it wouldn't work, but use at your own risk and all that. Please remember to that this script does not discriminate between header and content. That can be done, of course, but requires more hackery. To see an example of how this would be done send me an email message with the SUBJECT send-mime sendmail-addheadsig or get the file http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/sendmail-addheadsig which shows better how this might be done. TjL
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: html2rtf Date: 2 Mar 1997 23:40:30 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fd35e$78a@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> Cc: phm@eqt.ch In <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> phm@eqt.ch wrote: > Hi > > > Does somebody know how I could convert html to rtf? > I found some sources on the net, but the results are not so convincing and I don©t want to pay too much for it. > It makes me sad, to see how OmniWeb converts html->sgml->rtf, but I don©t find a way to save it in rtf. Am I missing something? Yes... :-) You just select the whole text of the document in OmniWeb, copy it into the pasteboard using Cmd-C, open Edit, Cmd-N to get a new document, Cmd-Shift-R to convert it to a rich text document, and then paste the contents of the pasteboard into the new document using Cmd-V. Anchors (URL references) will have weird underscore characters just before and after them, but if you select one of them hit Cmd-E, go int the find panel Cmd-F and replace with nothing for the whole document, they will vanish without a trace. Now you can save the richt text document from Edit... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Re: Configure Solaris Openstep Desktop Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 00:56:22 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <331A755D.4228@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <3312377E.2941@analog.com> <3314B6D8.1D09@ny.ubs.com> <JJH.97Mar1110928@powwow.eng.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jim Holmlund <jjh@powwow.eng.sun.com> Jim Holmlund wrote: > Version 1.1 will append your .signature file to outgoing msgs. > In the compose window, clicking the Forward (I think) button > includes the original msg. You can then use the Wrap and Reply Terminal > service to prepend '> ' to the original lines. Not as easy as > vm in xemacs, but ... (Version 1.1 contains a menu item in the Compose > menu to do all this with one click.) What's the scoop on 1.1? Only 1.0, AFAIK is downloadable from the SUN website... I heard about 2.0 dev, but what's the current status/release date? Also, is SUN working with NeXT-Apple to incorporate Rhapsody interoperability? Thanks in advance! -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: <cancel.331A7E14.58D9@intercom.net> Control: cancel <331A7E14.58D9@intercom.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <331A7E14.58D9@intercom.net> no reply ignore Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 07:59:06 GMT Sender: John Brooke <polymorf@intercom.net> ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark.
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS Jan/Feb Quiz results, new March Quiz started Date: 2 Mar 1997 16:54:16 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5fcbbo$976@peng.ping.at> The SSS January/February Quiz has ended, and the winner is drawn. Plus: the new March Quiz has started NOW! For Jan/Feb results as well as for the new March quiz question, please visit http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/quiz.html Deadline for the new quiz is April 1. As always, the winners will receive a free HelpViewer *or* LatinByrd license, or alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software (including SuperDraw, SuperDebugger, and others). Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: Sven Droll Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trouble installing teTeX Date: 3 Mar 1997 08:46:50 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5fe35q$vcj@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <5fa0kq$r7g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) wrote: >I know, its supposed to be easy. > >I installed the latest version of teTeX and TeXView so I could move from >latex209 to latex2e. I set the path in my .cshrc and for root as well and >deleted the old TeXVieW. My old files apparently compile fine, but in >(the new) TeXView, there are no letters, just blocks of different sizes. >I can latex from the command line without error, but dvips from the >command line gives <<stuff deleted>> If you get no real fonts it might be, that you should change your preferences in TeXView.app: generate fonts as needed must be set, to produce the pk-files. Ciao -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail, MIME-mail welcome ;-))
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From: Alexander Bochmann <bochmann@freinet.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: applications for Solaris OpenStep? Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 14:15:01 -0100 Organization: FreiNet - XLink PoP in Freiburg Message-ID: <331AEAF5.915@freinet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, as I've been driven away from "my" NeXT cube at work, I had to take refuge in installing OpenStep on the Solaris machine I now work at. Are there any existing applications for OpenStep/Solaris, or would I have to do everything myself? Especially I'm looking for something like the EnhanceMail bundle and OmniWeb as binary for OpenStep/Solaris. Do I have any chance? Thanks, Alex.
From: "S.FAHIM" <samir@interpac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NO DAMN ANSWER FROM PEANUTS SOFTWARE !!! Date: 3 Mar 1997 13:58:33 GMT Organization: Interpac Message-ID: <01bc27da$5e540650$26564ec2@vanessa> References: <01bc2588$8a23e740$26564ec2@vanessa> Great, I've received them today(3/3/97) !! This is a real Great Next Archive !! How can we get the updates ?? Sam smir@interpac.be S.FAHIM <samir@interpac.be> wrote in article <01bc2588$8a23e740$26564ec2@vanessa>... > > Hello, > Nobody is doing anything at Peanuts Software to improve the > Next-Step/Openstep > community !! > > I've tried for more than 3 times to purchase the The Peanuts Archive Disc > (PAD) NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FTP-Archive with E-mails and faxes, and nobody is > answering !!! > > What the Hell is going on there !! If they want to be A REFerence in the > Next/Openstep > world they need to improve they services URGENTLY !!!! > > I naïvly hope this message will improve the quality of the services !! > > Best regards, > > S. Fahim > Internet System Engineer > E-mail : samir@interpac.be > Belgacom--Interpac Belgium, > 350/358 Avenue Louise Box11 B-1050 Brussels, Belgium > Tel. (32)(2)646.60.00 Fax. (32)(2)640.36.38 >
Date: 3 Mar 1997 09:55:25 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops Message-ID: <cancel.5fcleh$o6l@news.atlantic.net> Control: cancel <5fcleh$o6l@news.atlantic.net> From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: jake@msn.com (Kyle Stoyan) Subject: cmsg cancel <5fcleh$o6l@news.atlantic.net> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970303.24 for further details
From: kellerw@okstate.edu (Bill Keller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: JetPilot problem Date: 28 Feb 1997 05:41:08 GMT Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater OK Message-ID: <5f5r5k$gk3@news.cis.okstate.edu> Hello. I have JetPilot 2.3, and it has always worked very well in the past. Recently, I upgraded my motherboard to a PentiumPro 200, and when I reinstalled everything, JetPilot doesn't work anymore. When I try to print something, the printer will load the paper, and then just stop. PrintManager reports that it is still printing, but the printer doesn't seem to know. More importantly, after an attempted print, if I try and shut down my system, it hangs, and I have to hard reset. Not good. I've left a message at the JetPilot website, but so far, no response. My questions are: Is there any diagnostic output from JetPilot somewhere that I could look at? Nothing shows up in syslog. Does anyone know if the PentiumPro has anything goofy about parallel ports? The printer is a HP Deskjet 600C, and it works just fine under NT. Thanks for any pointers anyone can offer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.apps From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: applications for Solaris OpenStep? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6H52L.AnD@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:44:45 GMT References: <331AEAF5.915@freinet.de> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <331AEAF5.915@freinet.de>, Alexander Bochmann <bochmann@freinet.de> wrote: >Hi, > >as I've been driven away from "my" NeXT cube at work, I had to take >refuge in installing OpenStep on the Solaris machine I now work at. > >Are there any existing applications for OpenStep/Solaris, or would I >have to do everything myself? > Stone Design has Create 4.0 for OPENSTEP on Solaris (Mach and NT as well). That's all I know of as far as "big" applications. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trouble installing teTeX Date: 3 Mar 1997 16:32:21 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <5feuel$bba@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5fa0kq$r7g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <5fcd05$ae0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <5fcduc$ic7$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Rudolf B. Blazek (blazek@stt.msu.edu) wrote: : in order to run LaTeX2e one doesn't need to install teTeX and new TeXView. Of course you are right. On the other hand if you want an up-to-date installation, which does not put everything on one big pile, with an extensive documentation, easy to maintain and with updates issued regularly, then teTeX is a good option; unless you plan to do all of the above by yourself. The later is possible as well. After all Tomas Esser (the author and maintainer of teTeX) is not a magician. Michal
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Dvips and 600dpi --- how can I force fonts to be generated? Date: 28 Feb 1997 07:08:43 GMT Organization: Ames Laboratory Message-ID: <5f609r$ovb@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <5f4eoc$chk@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Cc: lones@lones.mit.edu Lones A Smith wrote: > I want to convert my dvi file into postscript, but temporarily do not > have my 400 dpi printer. Rather, I cansend it to a 600dpi printer. > How can I induce TeX to create the fonts rather than scaling the > 400 dpi fonts. This latter solution seems to look ugly on the 600dpi printer. > > Thanks, > Lones > .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. > / L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \ > / `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' ` > Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 > (617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax) lones@lones.mit.edu > If it's only a temporary thing, I would suggest just running dvips from the command line using the option -D600. If it's permanent, look in /usr/lib/tex/ps/config.ps and change the D option specified there. To see a list of options available to dvips, just type "dvips" (no arguments) at the command line. Hope this helps --- Tom -- ********** NOTICE CHANGE OF ADDRESS *************** _________________________________________________________________ Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Depts. of Chemistry and Physics 206-721-0754 (home/FAX) University of Washington 206-713-0326 (Work) Seattle, WA 98195 tlm@u.washington.edu Project Coordinator: Undergraduate Computational Engineering and Sciences http://uces.ameslab.gov/ _________________________________________________________________
From: mikel@velocity.com (Michael Lemire) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next software donation Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 17:26:53 GMT Organization: [poster's organization not specified] Message-ID: <331b09c1.12185740@news.mr.net> I have a ton of Next Intel 3.2 and 3.3 Plus Developer, also many versions of software that I would like to donate to a local school (MN). I you are interested please email me at root@velocity.com. Thanks
From: carl@einstein.ucr.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WP 1.01 extended characters -- problem Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 20:01:45 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <970303120145.1127AAFpK.carl@einstein> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi out there, I'm running the last (I think) version of WordPerfect for NS, June 10 '93. When I go to put mathematical & logical symbols into a document using the Extended Characters panel, only some of the characters work. Many give me just a question mark. Frustratingly, there is no clear rhyme or reason to it, and many of the symbols that don't work are ones I need. Anyone encounter this problem before? Is there a solution? all help will be vastly appreciated. Carl Hoefer Dept. of Philosophy UC Riverside P.S. I also use OpenWrite and EquationBuilder, but their logical symbol selection is weaker than the old WP's! No box, turnstyle, ...
From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NO DAMN ANSWER FROM PEANUTS SOFTWARE !!! Date: 3 Mar 1997 20:23:38 GMT Organization: GENIFI Message-ID: <5ffc0a$t8c$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> References: <01bc2588$8a23e740$26564ec2@vanessa> I received in a week the 4 CD-rom package. If you want their fax and phone number Email me Best regards Yves
From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.App Sorting Date: 3 Mar 1997 13:36:43 -0000 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5fek5b$29o@sps1.phys.vt.edu> References: <a565698a8cead0efb20c45d48912d5ac> <-> <199702271426.JAA07727@peak.org> In article <199702271426.JAA07727@peak.org>, luomat@peak.org wrote: > [praising the virtues of procmail] I've got a question about procmail.. can it do _post_processing of already received mail, including removing things from Active.mbox even while Mail.app is running? What I want to do is this: instead of having all my mail sorted into various folders as it comes in, and then having to go into each folder to read the messages, I want everything to go into Active.mbox and then run a service or something to sort them all into their respective mailboxes when I'm done with them. (Actually, I'd prefer to add a button to Mail.app to do this a la EnhanceMail type hackery.. and I'd also like to be able to move only currently-selected messages, as sometimes I want to leave some messages in Active.mbox to remind me to reply to them later, rather then sort them into their mailboxes where I'll forget them.) I think this would be a really nice addition to Mail.app, especially if someone hacked up a simple graphical procmail rule editor. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nathan Urban | Undergrad {CS,Physics,Math} | Virginia Tech nurban@vt.edu | {NeXT,MIME} mail welcome | http://nurban.campus.vt.edu/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CorelDraw 7! only costs US$40?! Shopping Paradise Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:46:24 GMT Organization: Netvigator Message-ID: <5f5vlc$bga@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$40 for all? CorelDraw 7! only costs US$40! Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center
From: cogito@cats.ucsc.edu (Dave Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT TIFFs, JPEGs to Windows95 TIFFs, JPEGs Date: 3 Mar 1997 19:49:09 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5ff9vl$mtd@darkstar.ucsc.edu> References: <5f25h4$15hs@magma.Mines.EDU> Keywords: TIFF, Windows 95 >(1) a public domain or free TIFF viewer for Windows95 (from which I assume >I'll be able to print using the HP Windows95 printer driver), and I've tried many programs on NT, and I have been unable to find one that displays NeXT TIFFs. However, every TIFF I made on NT has been viewable on NeXT. >(2) a specific sequence of processing steps which will convert a NeXT TIFF >into something Windows 95 will recognize and print? On the NeXT I use a couple of programs, ImageConverter and OmniImage, that will convert to and from just about any images formats. I usually save the NeXT TIFF as a Windows BMP. On the NT I use Paint Shop Pro or Graphics Workshop (both are available as sharware) to convert to any other format I need. All of the programs I mentioned except OmniImage provide batch conversion. Dave Scott cogito@cats.ucsc.edu
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5f5vlc$bga@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Date: 3 Mar 1997 22:49:36 GMT Control: cancel <5f5vlc$bga@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Message-ID: <cancel.5f5vlc$bga@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Sender: (DogZ Software Center) Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970303.62. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970303.62.html for complete report. Original Subject: CorelDraw 7! only costs US$40?! Shopping Paradise
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: Converting Fonts From Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 19:23:03 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <331B6B67.DE4@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Hello: How can I convert a Font from a NeXT to something useable by Windows NT? -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: "S.FAHIM" <samir@interpac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NO DAMN ANSWER FROM PEANUTS SOFTWARE !!! Date: 28 Feb 1997 15:07:28 GMT Organization: Interpac Message-ID: <01bc2588$8a23e740$26564ec2@vanessa> Hello, Nobody is doing anything at Peanuts Software to improve the Next-Step/Openstep community !! I've tried for more than 3 times to purchase the The Peanuts Archive Disc (PAD) NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FTP-Archive with E-mails and faxes, and nobody is answering !!! What the Hell is going on there !! If they want to be A REFerence in the Next/Openstep world they need to improve they services URGENTLY !!!! I naïvly hope this message will improve the quality of the services !! Best regards, S. Fahim Internet System Engineer E-mail : samir@interpac.be Belgacom--Interpac Belgium, 350/358 Avenue Louise Box11 B-1050 Brussels, Belgium Tel. (32)(2)646.60.00 Fax. (32)(2)640.36.38
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Subject: Q:Reporting tool Message-ID: <E6BKEz.165@oic.de> Sender: news@oic.de Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:30:35 GMT Hi, I'm looking for reporting tools, but I don't know which report writers are available for OPENSTEP 4.x/Mach and EOF? Can someone give me an advice which tools are available (and usable)? Thank you in advance, Juergen Moellenhoff
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is this really Postscript? Date: 4 Mar 1997 06:32:34 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5fgfm2$1do$8@news.xmission.com> References: <5fg8hm$s58@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) wrote: > I am trying to use Preview.app to preview [...] > Not with this postscript stuff, which you can see below > has nonascii stuff. My secretary can print it, but I am > wondering whatever happpened to the platform independence > of postscript. Well, MS and Windows do have a particular talent for screwing up anything and everything. :-) (I'm not sure they are to blame in this case, but MS apps do spit out notoriously bad PS code.) > How can I preview it? I include a snippet at the start of > the file below. Try loading it in Yap and running it to see what the error is. That's Postscript all right; the binary-looking stuff is a bitmapped image. Looking at the snippet you gave us, I'd say it was a .tiff created from either a scan or a fax which was then converted to Postscript. -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Animation for Black Hardware? Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 21:36:42 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <331BB4E4.423F@earthlink.net> References: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> <33113B5C.37FB@earthlink.net> <5evkl0$dh7@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Worne wrote: > UNIX-based operating system? What the heck is that supposed to mean? SGI? Or > are they no longer running under NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? Animo is still available only on NeXTSTEP at this time. SGI and NT coming soon!
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is this really Postscript? Date: 4 Mar 1997 04:30:46 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5fg8hm$s58@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I am trying to use Preview.app to preview an article I downloaded from a new site (|JSTOR) tahat wonderfully stores old (pre 1989) articles of major journals in the fields. Anyhow, to preview the articles on a nonWindoze system, their only option is Postscript. Fine. I'll use Preview, I thought. Not with this postscript stuff, which you can see below has nonascii stuff. My secretary can print it, but I am wondering whatever happpened to the platform independence of postscript. How can I preview it? I include a snippet at the start of the file below. Thanks for any help, Lones %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 %%Creator: tiff2ps2 %%CreationDate: Mon Mar 3 10:21:43 1997 %%Orientation: Portrait %%Origin: 0 0 %%BoundingBox: (atend) %%PageOrder: Ascend %%Pages: 38 %%EndComments %%Page: "1" 1 %%BeginPaperSize: Letter %%EndPaperSize %%PageBoundingBox: 0 0 445.440002 683.520020 gsave initgraphics 100 dict begin 928 1424 150.000000 150.000000 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % width height xres yres exch 4 1 roll % 4: xres width height yres div 72 mul % 3: xres width h72 3 1 roll exch div 72 mul % 2: h72 w72 2 copy % 4: h72 w72 h72 w72 clippath pathbbox % 8: ... h72 w72 llx lly urx ury exch 4 1 roll exch sub % 7: ... h72 w72 urx llx bboxh 3 1 roll sub % 6: ... h72 w72 bboxh bboxw exch 4 1 roll % 6: ... bboxh h72 w72 bboxw % If bboxw < w72, then set xscale=bboxw/w72, % also save widths for centering exch 2 copy lt {2 copy div} {1} ifelse % 7: ... bboxh h72 bboxw w72 xscale 5 3 roll % 7: ... bboxw w72 xscale bboxh h72 2 copy lt {2 copy div} {1} ifelse % 8: ... xscale bboxh h72 yscale 4 -1 roll % 8: ... bboxh h72 yscale xscale 2 copy lt {pop} {exch pop} ifelse % 7: ... bboxw w72 bboxh h72 scale dup 4 1 roll mul sub 2 div % 6: ... bboxw w72 scale ytrans 4 1 roll dup 5 1 roll % 7: ... scale ytrans bboxw w72 scale mul sub 2 div % 6: h72 w72 scale ytrans xtrans exch translate % 3: h72 w72 scale dup 3 1 roll mul % 3: h72 scale swidth 3 1 roll mul % 2: swidth sheight scale % 0: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% /filterfile0 currentfile /ASCII85Decode filter << /K -1 /BlackIs1 false /EndOfBlock false /Columns 928 /Rows 1424 >> /CCITTFaxDecode filter def 928 1424 1 [928 0 0 -1424 0 1424] filterfile0 image s8W-!s8W-!s8W-!s8W-!s8W-!s8W-!b_6oFR4Cju-o5?XN4C%S`^V`i\BC"c&!;JhJf#^:;mX<_ G%M`K3(:hW7!*B7)DmAH;%V-M4B0/76*S38#-cMY$5s@/i&7#4]=U?108<cL"CVo3c&K2H#]-sZ :pX7H6':Yh[5^[8bfgLc(ITrDifV5c&G_n)G\.KBD,jk?<7=RL<:)MoDOqO0gBjY06+em;S#Fmp HU"aO8%'A0_FD2`BSI(,#$oX8L0QX*pK.!oYQ*2AWAiPE5M,YtPGI'`:%b0NS\!MbPAN5.<`&co ^]4?&qldgN'Yf5Ee\:AJ3aLuh7"&cRV>BhRh7CE7mD&[Q,MY1Ws*l_j>u\#H?T,U0c*-&]pR(W& jZEA-#`nY]n)/b>qlbF_DtWf4J#t@CYP`cs]QO7JXY9?qf@M!Dp/CGJN>6s:s0#l/<Um?lI!^&W ;SW"q\(C<Jn`i?>Wda[As)/,@Hb.H?q4gI*BC3@XRDQ#bs)7kNra''J+[bedH[haPd3/bp](Wo+ -- .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. / L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \ / `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' ` Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 (617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax) lones@lones.mit.edu
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5fghi8$bn4@ecuador.earthlink.net> Date: 4 Mar 1997 08:16:41 GMT Control: cancel <5fghi8$bn4@ecuador.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5fghi8$bn4@ecuador.earthlink.net> Sender: nuddesta@wstarztv.net Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: NUDECELEBS Original Subject: This is great. Like iced tea!
From: jut@pediat1.kin.ukrv.de (Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.-U. Thieme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Framemaker and Openstep 4.1 Date: 4 Mar 1997 08:10:23 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5fgldf$lst$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <33187121.37C7@voicenet.com> Cc: dcarpent@voicenet.com In <33187121.37C7@voicenet.com> David Carpenter wrote: > Can anyone tell me, based on their own experience, whether Framemaker > 3.0 runs under Openstep 4.1? I'm trying to decide whether to upgrade > from Nextstep 3.1 to Openstep 4.1, and I have a lot of documents in > Framemaker. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > David Carpenter > dcarpent@sju.edu > No problems, IÂm running FrameMaker 3.2 with OPENSTEP 4.1 since 3 month. CIAO JUT -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.- U. Thieme - -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jut@ukrv.de or jut@rz.charite.hu-berlin.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 66127 - - fax: +49 30 450 66937 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - -------------------------------------------------------------- - "I am saddened -- not by Microsoft's success, I have no - - problem with their success, they've earned their success - - ...for the most part -- I have a problem with the fact - - that they just make really third-rate products." - - - - Steven Paul Jobs - --------------------------------------------------------------
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: 2 Mar 1997 21:46:09 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5fcsf1$je0@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <E64FL2.Iz3@RnA.NL> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote: > Subject line says it all. In the next NEXTTOYOU (due March 21st) there will be a solution for any newsreader via a services module that converts any MIME text that you've marked as a block. Bye Uli -- ______________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine ______________________________________________________________________
From: J. P. McCann <jpmeia@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Viewing multiple-page tiff files Date: 4 Mar 1997 14:05:27 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5fha77$e9f@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> I've scanned a multple-page document using MetroScan, and saved it as a .tiff file. I can view all pages individually using MetroScan, but not with any other app (OmniImage, Preview, or Tailor). Any way to see all pages using OmniImage, Preview, Tailor, etc? Thanks, JP -- Please respond as needed to: jpmeia@ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 08:08:50 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am curious on how to CD-ROM burn some NeXT media, and am wondering if in the software that RockRidge Extensions are Necessary in addition to ISO 9660? Take the NEXTSTEP 3.3 disc, what exactly is required of the burning software to do this successfully. A Mac solution would be prefered... Is there Mac OS software that can do this? Anyone know the names? How about Windoze? Thanks in advance -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Re: applications for Solaris OpenStep? Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 08:12:34 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <331C2DC5.4985@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <331AEAF5.915@freinet.de> <E6H52L.AnD@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Evans wrote: > Stone Design has Create 4.0 for OPENSTEP on Solaris (Mach and NT as well). > That's all I know of as far as "big" applications. Then there's Lighthouse's JavaPlan... http://www.lighthouse.com -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5fhaan$9g0@bolivia.earthlink.net> Date: 4 Mar 1997 15:44:12 GMT Control: cancel <5fhaan$9g0@bolivia.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5fhaan$9g0@bolivia.earthlink.net> Sender: pqwoeiur@poeujf.com Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: NUDECELEBS Original Subject: Do you like Nude Celebrity Pic? How about 10000 of them!
From: DAVID HOUTS <dhouts@haywire.csuhayward.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help please with disk partition problem! Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:00:25 -0800 Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970227185938.4066C-100000@haywire> References: <5f4tkq$qfb$2@mail.pl.unisys.com> <5f5e9h$1k9@gaea.titan.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Ken Case <kc@criamon.omnigroup.com> In-Reply-To: <5f5e9h$1k9@gaea.titan.org> Hello, I am a NS newbie-sort-of, but wish to share something you might wish to consider as you configure your machine. SoftPC permits you to run DOS/WIN apps under NEXTSTEP. If your DOS partition is the FIRST partition of the HD, SoftPC apps can use the same files available to the apps on your DOS/WIN partition. And welcome to the elegant, "literate" world of NS.
From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problem with PPP and OmniWeb Date: 4 Mar 1997 19:53:43 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Message-ID: <5fhuk7$oq4@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> References: <3319A512.353D@capecod.net> In article <3319A512.353D@capecod.net>, Robert Trout <rtrout@capecod.net> writes: |> For every URL I specify using the "www.xxx.yyy" format, OmniWeb responds with |> host does not exists. If I specify my internet service provider's IP |> address, OmniWeb responds connection refused. |> |> My PPP connection seems to be working fine (the log looks good and I can ping |> my provider's host). Why does my provider and OmniWeb not get along? I can |> connect with no problems using my Win95/PC. |> |> Thanks in advance for your help. |> |> Bob Trout |> rtrout@capecod.net How are you pinging your provider? Symbolic or numeric IP address? From what you're describing, it sounds like you're having a nameserver problem. Use nslookup to check symbolic IP addresses as another test to verify that your nameserver is translating symbolic IP addresses to numeric addresses. I have my box (NeXTstation) set up to use PPP, and it cooks right along with OmniWeb. -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com -- Software consulting (Perl, C, Python, ...), ghost@ghost.neosoft.com -- (see: http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/5857.html)
From: hawk@cts.com (Mike Cianflone) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How does one display X-Windows on a NeXT? Date: 4 Mar 1997 19:04:43 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET), San Diego, CA Message-ID: <5fhrob$5it@bogus.cts.com> I have a few original NeXT machines running NeXT Step Release 3. Is there a way I can display X-Windows on the screen? Basically I want to redirect the display on a UNIX machine and have it point to the NeXT (ie: setenv DISPLAY mynext:0.0) then have it display on the NeXT. Is it built in to the NeXT? Is there third party software? Preferably freeware, or low-cost shareware. Please reply via email if possible. Thanks! Thanks for any help. Mike
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AppleTalk Date: 4 Mar 1997 19:14:33 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <5fhsap$it3@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> I am running NS 3.2 on black hardware. I recently installed the package Appletalk from my old 3.0 cd. I went into NeXTCD directory, clicked on the Appletalk package and installed it. I also copied the old PrintManager from the 3.0 cd. I enabled AppleTalk in preferences and rebooted. I can see Appletalk servers in /Net. In PrintManager create I can see a list of domains and printers. When I create a printer from the list it appears on my list of printers with a host name listed as my machine. When I try to print to it, nothing seems to happen. Any idea what's wrong? -- +----------------------------------+------------------------------+ |Yadin Y. Goldschmidt | | |Professor of Physics | voice: (412)624-9024 | |Dept. of Physics and Astronomy | fax: (412)624-9163 | |University of Pittsburgh | e-mail: | |Pittsburgh PA 15260 | yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu | +----------------------------------+------------------------------+
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to ICO conversion nightmare Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 14:17:26 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <331C7546.2B4F@arch.buffalo.edu> References: <33177131.1915@running-start.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Eric Hermanson wrote: > > I am having a heck of a time trying to convert .tiff files created and > saved under NEXTSTEP into Windows compatible .ico files.... The solution I found was to use a combination of PhotoShop to convert TIFF to BMP (Perhaps there is a free converter. I happened to have Photoshop so I didn't look). and EasyIcons/Icon Easel for Windows 95/NT to load/edit/save Icons. It is shareware and costs about $33 Check it out at: http://www.easyapps.com/ I have no affiliation with EasyApps or Adobe (although I wish I did :-) -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:03:13 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E6J3DE.7Lp@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> In article <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> writes: > Hi, I am curious on how to CD-ROM burn some NeXT media, and am wondering > if in the software that RockRidge Extensions are Necessary in addition > to ISO 9660? Unless you like DOS then yes - they main thing RR gives is long filenames. > Take the NEXTSTEP 3.3 disc, what exactly is required of > the burning software to do this successfully. A Mac solution would be > prefered... The 3.3 disc is a raw dump of a NexT filesystem. To make a RR image mkisofs is pretty good once you figure out the parametera. works on most unix's. To make a NeXT image you should be able to simply dd a disk of your choice. > Is there Mac OS software that can do this? Anyone know the names? How > about Windoze? Getting the image onto the ROM should be easy using most CD software, on pretty much any platform. $an
From: krgue@nps.navy.mil (Kevin R Gue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Openstep Solaris install question Date: 4 Mar 1997 16:47:37 GMT Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA Message-ID: <5fhjn9$iau@nps.navy.mil> I've recently installed Openstep for Solaris, but can't seem to get it up and running. When logging in, I select "Openstep Desktop" from the session menu, and the session starts up as a dressed up Open Windows (ugh) session. The windows have Openstep frames, etc, but I can't start Workspace or Edit or any such applications. Perhaps I am running "Openstep under Open Windows", as the online documentation says. If I start a session in CDE or plain Open Windows, and type "openstep", I get, "The X-server is not running or the DPS compositing operators are not present" How do I get to *real* Openstep?? Many thanks, --Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin R. Gue, Ph.D. | krgue@nps.navy.mil Department of Systems Management | Tel: (408) 656-4299 Naval Postgraduate School | Fax: (408) 656-3407 Monterey, CA 93943 | http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~krgue ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: krgue@nps.navy.mil (Kevin R Gue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: 4 Mar 1997 19:09:46 GMT Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA Message-ID: <5fhs1q$m87@nps.navy.mil> Has Lighthouse decided not to port their NEXTSTEP apps to Openstep? I had to dig for any mention of the old apps on their web page! In particular, will the Academic bundle make it to Openstep?? --Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin R. Gue, Ph.D. | krgue@nps.navy.mil Department of Systems Management | Tel: (408) 656-4299 Naval Postgraduate School | Fax: (408) 656-3407 Monterey, CA 93943 | http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~krgue ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ian@peacesummit.com (Ian Upright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Please can I have NS 3.3 Samba binaries for 68k? Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 13:59:39 -0800 Organization: Peace Summit Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <33209a60.35064179@news.jumppoint.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been having some trouble compiling Samba under NS 3.3 on a black box. First it gave me an undefined symbol of O_NONBLOCK in a file open in server.c, which I hacked around. Now it comes up with smbd couldn't link because it could't find _waitpid. I'm no guru. Does someone have the binaries? Ian ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peace Summit Technologies ian@peacesummit.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.peacesummit.com/ian/home.html
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From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Unified Printing minus GX Message-ID: <8D3548E.09B8000203.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 97 19:26:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple Computer Plans To Unify Mac OS Printing Architecture 03/03/97 Dow Jones News Service Apple Computer Inc. plans to unify the dual printing architectures currently supported by the Mac OS and standardize on the use of classic printing manager drivers, such as LaserWriter and StyleWriter, for future Mac OS 7.x releases. In a press release Monday, Apple said it plans to remove the printing architecture component of QuickDraw GX, refocus QuickDraw GX as a graphics solution, and continue to evolve its Printing Manager drivers. Beginning with the Mac OS scheduled to be released in July, code-named Tempo, Apple will provide a unified operating system printing architecture standardizing on the Printing Manager architecture's drivers. With the unified printing architecture, QuickDraw GX printer drivers and QuickDraw GX printing extensions will not be a user option at installation, Apple said. Under the new unified printing architecture strategy, the printing architecture of QuickDraw GX will be removed and the technology will be refocused as a graphics solution, the company said. In place of the QuickDraw GX 1.1.5 architecture currently available, a modified system will be delivered as a separate software library, Apple said. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 Origin: ------------> QuickTime is on my side. Yes it is.
From: max@maxgraphic.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help with modem setup Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:07:39 -0800 Organization: Maxgraphic Message-ID: <max-0403971907390001@blv-pm108-ip23.halcyon.com> Since I've been a little frightened of trying to set up PPP on my NeXTstation running 3.0, I thought I'd just use a simple terminal and dial up local BBSes. So I plugged my Supra 288 faxmodem in with a hardware handshaking cable from my Mac. Typing "tip 1234567" did indeed dial the modem, and even connected, but tip gave an "OK" prompt followed shortly by a "connection failed" error. Looking through NeXTanswers I've noticed some mention of configuring getty and /etc/remote, and I would check the man pages for those, only I don't have any man pages (the curse of getting the 105 configuration, I guess). Any help greatly appreciated. Suggestions setting up PPP 2.2 would be most helpful as well. -- Max Pinton, max@maxgraphic.com Maxgraphic Digital Portfolio, http://www.maxgraphic.com
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From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 22:39:09 -0700 Organization: Electric Lightwave, Inc. Message-ID: <331E587D.497106F@konnections.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <5fb04n$mc4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rudy: I don't know that I wouldn't want to run NeXT 3.2, if I had some places to get copies of it. As for LINUX, let's see: I run it on my Intel machines (& soon my Macs...) I can usually find someone who can answer questions Internals & source code are available It's solid and continuously tested and upgraded (and the upgrades are available, unlike NeXT) Oh......it's free...... I can run Applix on it It is usually faster in similar implementations than commercial UNIX packages. I prefer X Window Need I go on? If NeXT 3.2 of so great give me your copy.... -Mike Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > > In <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> mike allison wrote: > > Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT > > systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these > > machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really > > be a screamer for most everything. > > > > NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to > > mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. > > > > If you can/know.... email me mallison@konnections.com > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Mike > > > > I am running NS 3.2 and am not moving to OpenStep. If it is not a screamer, > at least I don't have to scream. Could tell me why one would want to run > Linux instead of NeXTstep 3.2 [That idea scares me and DOES make me scream]. > > I might be missing a point, so I would like learn .... > > Good luck. > > Rudy. > > -- > Rudy Blazek Michigan State University > blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU) Subject: Re: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Message-ID: <E6K1G6.3wJ@papageno.rim.or.jp> Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU) Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN References: <5f9nir$6si$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 05:19:17 GMT In article <5f9nir$6si$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) writes: > I am thinking about PowerMac with Rhapsody and an Intel board inside. That > way one would get OpenStep, old Mac software and Wintel compatibility too. > I'm dreaming the wildest 'day dream' that Rhapsody enables me to run most of current Mac Apps as well as OS and UNIX Apps by adding 'PowerPC card' to my old 486 machine. --- Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB)
From: jba@news.pixar.com (John Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 5 Mar 1997 06:21:34 GMT Organization: Pixar Message-ID: <5fj3de$6o1@pixar.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> I too would be interested in this.... thanks mike allison (mallison@konnections.com) wrote: : Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT : systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these : machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really : be a screamer for most everything. : : NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to : mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. : : If you can/know.... email me mallison@konnections.com : : Thanks, : : -Mike -- _____________________________________________________________ John Anderson jba@pixar.com Pixar Animation Studios http://www.pixar.com "Lead me not into temptation; I can find the way myself." --Rita Mae Brown
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703041856.NAA03664@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: f23e66da50611ae76f249f75935d0d15 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 97 13:56:42 -0500 Subject: Re: WP 1.01 extended characters -- problem Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: f23e66da50611ae76f249f75935d0d15 - Responding To: carl@einstein.ucr.edu Original Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 20:01:45 GMT > I'm running the last (I think) version of WordPerfect for NS, June > 10 '93. When I go to put mathematical & logical symbols into a > document using the Extended Characters panel, only some of the > characters work. Many give me just a question mark. Frustratingly, > there is no clear rhyme or reason to it, and many of the symbols > that don't work are ones I need. Anyone encounter this problem > before? Is there a solution? all help will be vastly appreciated. What Font were you using? I just tried mine (same version, running under m68k not Intel) using Courier 12 as the base font and they all seemed to work just fine. It could be an incomplete upgrade (you got the newer binary but not the rest of the distribution). Here is a listing of all the files withing WP that I have. I encourage anyone who uses WP to check this and make sure they have the same: (this is for version 1.0.1 June 1993 for Intel & NeXT) (note: I got this from running find /LocalApps/WordPerfect.app -print|sort and then removing the "/LocalApps/WordPerfect.app" part of the output in case you want to make a similar listing and run it through 'diff' or FileMerge or something like that) WP has said in the past that any licensed user can get an upgrade (for NeXTStep) from someone else, since they have long since lost/destroyed/eaten the master disks. 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RightTabD.tiff ShadowOff.tiff ShadowOn.tiff SmallcapsOff.tiff SmallcapsOn.tiff Space1-5.tiff Space1.tiff Space2.tiff StrikeoutOff.tiff StrikeoutOn.tiff SubscriptOff.tiff SubscriptOn.tiff SuperscriptOff.tiff SuperscriptOn.tiff UnderlineOff.tiff UnderlineOn.tiff Up.tiff VCen.tiff VFull.tiff WordPerfect WordPerfect.tiff bullet.tiff check.tiff codes.tiff comment.tiff cursor.tiff dashedLine.tiff dottedLine.tiff doubleLine.tiff extraThickLine.tiff icon.tiff out.tiff propCursor.tiff rotateCursor.tiff rtf-wp services set1.tiff set10.tiff set10o.tiff set1o.tiff set4.tiff set4o.tiff set5.tiff set5o.tiff set6.tiff set6o.tiff set7.tiff set7o.tiff set8.tiff set8o.tiff set9.tiff set9o.tiff singleLine.tiff thickLine.tiff wp-ascii wp-desc wp-rtf wpdoc.tiff wpfiles wpfiles/.places wpfiles/.wp.set wpfiles/convert wpfiles/dbtxt.us wpfiles/hyerr.us wpfiles/hytxt.us wpfiles/lbtxt.us wpfiles/next.prs wpfiles/next.trs wpfiles/pttxt.us wpfiles/rtf-wp wpfiles/standard.crs wpfiles/wp.lrs wpfiles/wpcer.us wpfiles/wperr.us wpfiles/wpfiles wpfiles/wphlp.us wpfiles/wphyd.us wpfiles/wphyl.us wpfiles/wplex.us wpfiles/wpmnu.us wpfiles/wpths.us wpfiles/wptpl.us wpfiles/wptpltxt.us wpfiles/wptxt.us wpg.tiff wpm.tiff wpspell hope that helps TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) PEAK OpenStep/NeXTStep FTP Site Newly revised and enhanced NeXTStep/OpenStep resources page, over 300 NeXTStep/OpenStep/Rhapsody related links. http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703041841.NAA03561@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 4d40bddc151c5ae1e31a4d57c17e689b - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 97 13:41:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Mail.App Sorting Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 4d40bddc151c5ae1e31a4d57c17e689b - Responding To: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Original Date: 3 Mar 1997 13:36:43 -0000 Message-ID: 4d40bddc151c5ae1e31a4d57c17e689b - > I've got a question about procmail.. can it do _post_processing of > already received mail, including removing things from Active.mbox > even while Mail.app is running? Yes. You could do this. I'm not 100% sure of the "how" but the answer to "can it" is definitely YES. You would probably be running formail like this: formail -des procmail -m sort-active ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox (where 'sort-active' is a procmail script with your sorting recipes) WARNING: the above is NOT to be used, but merely an example of how simple it would be and the APPROXIMATE syntax.... I wouldn't use it on my Active.mbox without checking with the procmail mailing list. You would have to close Active.mbox (for safety) but Mail.app could be running. I could see using a LogoutHook to sort Active.mbox automatically on logout.... that would be nifty. > What I want to do is this: instead of having all my mail sorted > into various folders as it comes in, and then having to go into > each folder to read the messages, I want everything to go into > Active.mbox and then run a service or something to sort them all > into their respective mailboxes when I'm done with them. I prefer having as much sorted as possible. In fact, hardly any email I get ends up in Active.mbox, most is sorted, and if it isn't it means either: you haven't sent me mail before you haven't sent enough mail to me before for me to remember to add your name to some database you are a spammer All my Inboxes are in one directory under ~/Mailboxes called "Inboxes" so I can click on any one of them and not have to be clicking back and forth. Very handy... Anyway, the short answer is "yes" but for details you'll want someone who has done this more than me.... or send me mail and ask me to check that 10 meg/4000 message procmail mailbox on my NeXT. TjL, now aware of why his gig HD is running out of room so quickly ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6Kpvu.907@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:07:06 GMT References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com>, mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> wrote: >Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT >systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these >machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really >be a screamer for most everything. > The only 40MHz black hardware are Turbo slabs which have the Nitro board installed: about 5 or so in the world. Most are 25MHz non-Turbo hardware, while some are 33MHz Turbo. >NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to >mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. > 4.x is big, yes. I won't go further into this flame troll. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is Big Green CD? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 10:04:08 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <331D8B68.4C64@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can someone point me to the Big Green CD and any other shareware for OPENSTEP. Thanks, --gh
From: jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: renderman help. Date: 5 Mar 1997 15:31:24 GMT Organization: Time Warner Pathfinder Message-ID: <jlimpert-0503971135220001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> If I click on a .rib file in nextstep 3.3 it brings up a program called 3view which lets me move around a wireframe or shaded object. How do I render a rib in photorealistic renderman? thanks!
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WP 1.01 extended characters -- problem Date: 5 Mar 1997 15:49:23 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5fk4m3$6q9@shelob.afs.com> References: <199703041856.NAA03664@kira.peak.org> Tim Luoma posted a list of what's inside WordPerfect.app, but actually he was more on track when he asked which font the original author was using. WordPerfect installs in TWO passes: first for an Apps location, and then for a Library location. Extended characters are provided by a special set of PostScript fonts (which by the way look LOUSY on screen, because they didn't provide optimized bitmaps for screen resolutions). All fontnames begin with 'WP' and should live in /LocalLibrary/Fonts or ~Library/Fonts. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda) Subject: GNU regex for NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <E6KqKE.I6@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organisation: AWT Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:21:50 GMT Hi, I am looking for GNU regex for NEXTSTEP, preferably something that I can install as libregex.a and that comes with iregex.c (the interactive front end for testing). I tried looking on FSF sites, but without any luck so far. Can anybody help? -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt."
From: clafey@buncombe.main.nc.us (Cicada La Fey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help with modem setup Date: 5 Mar 1997 16:03:49 GMT Organization: Mountain Area Information Network Message-ID: <5fk5h5$fd@mainsrv.main.nc.us> I tried using tip on with my NeXTStation with simaler results. I did not find how to fix the problem, but have a solution, that was to use kermit. I found kermit to work fine and I am using it at this moment. Cicada LaFey clafey@main.nc.us
From: paul@pth.com (Paul Haddad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Faxing with Samba Date: 5 Mar 1997 17:00:51 GMT Organization: Internet MCI Message-ID: <5fk8s3$j6h$1@news.internetmci.com> Hi, Is it possible to fax from a Windows 95/NT machine through SAMBA running on a NeXT with the HSD fax driver? -- Paul Haddad
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Testers searched: MPEG L3 Audio Player for NeXTSTEP/OpenSTEP (Intel only) Date: 5 Mar 1997 18:42:50 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5fkera$i75$2@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Howdy! I'd like to see if this thing works on other machines. I have combined my MMP.app mod player with the mpg123 program by Michael Hipp (which runs on Linux, he gave me his permission to use it :)) to get an audio MPEG I L1,2 and 3 player plus the MOD Playing functionality. So if you a. Have an Intel box, perferable faster than DX/2 (Sorry but a m68k system is *way* too slow) b. Running NeXTSTEP 3.x or OPENSTEP c. Like to play MPEG sounds or MODs in 44.1 kHz d. Provide me with feedback (!) ... feel free to send me an email. Have a nice day Frank --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy e start of > > the file below. > > Try loading it in Yap and running it to see what the error is. > That's Postscript all right; the binary-looking stuff is a > bitmapped image. Looking at the snippet you gave us, I'd say > it was a .tiff created from either a scan or a fax which was > then converted to Postscript. > > You can try my BeYap program, a PS previewer/tracer/debugger. It will tell you exactly where the error happens. It can usually preview a lot more documents than Preview.app since it does not care about DSC comments. (And yes - it can preview multipage documents) To see if a PS document conforms to PS Level 1 (your PS sniplet uses L2 commands, so this does not work) you can use my 'pscheck' program. BeYap is available on the archives as shareware. A timebombed version of pscheck for DOS/Windows and NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP is on my web page. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AppleTalk Date: 5 Mar 1997 18:46:34 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5fkf2a$i75$3@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5fhsap$it3@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Cc: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu In <5fhsap$it3@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Yadin Y. Goldschmidt wrote: > I am running NS 3.2 on black hardware. I recently installed the > package Appletalk from my old 3.0 cd. I went into NeXTCD directory, > clicked on the Appletalk package and installed it. I also copied the > old PrintManager from the 3.0 cd. I enabled AppleTalk in preferences > and rebooted. I can see Appletalk servers in /Net. In PrintManager > create I can see a list of domains and printers. When I create a > printer from the list it appears on my list of printers with a host name > listed as my machine. When I try to print to it, nothing seems to > happen. Any idea what's wrong? > > Well, I don't recommend the now unsupported Appletalk package at all. It seemed to work sometimes, somehow depending on the phase of the moon. (At least on my system...) See http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html for an alternative freeware appletalk package. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: GNU regex for NEXTSTEP? Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:15:37 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Yn7QNNi00iVCA7WFkS@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <E6KqKE.I6@AWT.NL> In-Reply-To: <E6KqKE.I6@AWT.NL> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 5-Mar-97 GNU regex for NEXTSTEP? by Drs G. C. Th. Wierda@AWT > I am looking for GNU regex for NEXTSTEP, preferably something that I > can install as libregex.a and that comes with iregex.c (the interactive > front end for testing). I tried looking on FSF sites, but without any luck > so far. How about <URL=ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/regex-0.12.tar.gz>? It doesn't seem to have iregex.c, but it does come with a series of tests. You might try asking on the gnu.* groups, too-- this is a generic question about GNU software, and is not NEXTSTEP-specific. Unless you're looking for a precompiled version, that is.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT TIFFs, JPEGs to Windows95 TIFFs, JPEGs Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:29:46 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <Yn7Qae200iVCA7WMkQ@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5f25h4$15hs@magma.Mines.EDU> <5ff9vl$mtd@darkstar.ucsc.edu> In-Reply-To: <5ff9vl$mtd@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 3-Mar-97 Re: NeXT TIFFs, JPEGs to Wi.. by Dave Scott@cats.ucsc.edu >> (1) a public domain or free TIFF viewer for Windows95 (from which I assume >> I'll be able to print using the HP Windows95 printer driver), and > > I've tried many programs on NT, and I have been unable to find one that > displays NeXT TIFFs. However, every TIFF I made on NT has been viewable on > NeXT. That's because most PC TIFF viewers don't support all of the formats mandated by the standard, and NeXT's 2-bit greyscale TIFFs are one of the least common formats, so PC developers ignore and/or never test their software on NeXT's TIFFs. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: _henq@phsoft.knoware.nl (Henk van Tijen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: plain text tables with tbl and nroff: how? Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:51:46 +0100 Organization: PH Software Message-ID: <19970305205146175694@[192.0.2.1]> I recently posted the message below to comp.text, but I am still left with my problemette. I think the problem is Nextstep (3.2) specific, as I did get good results on a HP/UX system at work... ..........................original posting............................ Hi all, I have a challenge in dealing with tbl en nroff. What I try to do is generate a table like the one below: __________________________________________ Language lesson 12 __________________________________________ Nr English French __________________________________________ 1 Father, the girl Papa, disait la said, is it true fille, est-ce mother smokes que c'est vrai the pipe? que maman fume la pipe? __________________________________________ 2 Du pain, du vin Bread, wine and et du Boursin! cheese. __________________________________________ So I want to make a multi-column table with each cell having wrapped multi-line text in it. The medium is plain text, so a combination of tbl and nroff seemed a natural fit. What I get, however, looks like: (lines omitted): Language lesson 12 Nr English French 1 Father, the girl said, is it true mother smokes the pipe? Papa, disait la fille, est-ce que c'est vrai que maman fume la pipe? 2 Du pain, du vin et du Boursin! Bread, wine and cheese. (When boxing turned on, the vertical lines actually come after above content). The problem seems that somewhere in the pipe, commands are given for a vertical movement up- wards, and nroff decides that is not possible (my guess, at least). I get this result both when I redirect the output to the vt100 emulation or to a file. If I use troff instead of nroff, and pipe it through ptroff (=pscat), I get a beautiful postscript table. I also tried piping through colcrt, but to no avial. Oh, I am doing this on my black NeXT 3.2, which is BSD4.2-ish, me thinks. Can anybody help me? (I already checked the FAQ's) Thanks in advance ! -Henk van Tijen PS: This is the source of the table: .TS center tab(:) ; cfI s s n l l . Language lesson 12 Nr:English:French 1:T{ Father, the girl said, is it true mother smokes the pipe? T}:T{ Papa, disait la fille, est-ce que c'est vrai que maman fume la pipe? T} 2:T{ Du pain, du vin et du Boursin! T}:T{ Bread, wine and cheese. T} .TE .............................reply................................ Stefaan A. Eeckels <Stefaan.Eeckels@ecc.lu> wrote: [snip] > > Oh, I am doing this on my black NeXT 3.2, > > which is BSD4.2-ish, me thinks. > Henk, > Pipe the output from nroff through 'col': > > tbl /tmp/foobar.t | nroff -Tlp -mm | col > > yields: [snip] > as you'd expect. > > -- Stefaan .................... my reply to stefaan's reply....................... Stefaan, thanks for your respons. I already tried col (and colcrt), but on my Next they do not give the result as you described. :-( So now i think one of these tools on my NeXT perhaps has non-standard behaviour. I'll cross-post this problem in one of the comp.sys.next groups and see if someone out there comes with a solution that works on my particular environment. Thanks again, -Henk -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= fight bulk mail: remove _underscore from return address when replying henk van tijen henq@phsoft.knoware.nl exclusive spanish wines at low cost: http://utopia.knoware.nl/~henq/
From: jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: help me with ppp Date: 5 Mar 1997 22:29:09 GMT Organization: Time Warner Pathfinder Message-ID: <jlimpert-0503971833060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> i have nextstep 3.3 for intel and a pc w/ 28.8 modem. how do I get a ppp connection to the internet established?? any help would be appreciated. jlimpert@pathfinder.com
From: Anthony Cordeiro <ren@netscape.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 15:47:45 -0800 Organization: i.dont.speak.for.netscape.com Message-ID: <331E0621.7985@netscape.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <5fb04n$mc4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <331E587D.497106F@konnections.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mike allison wrote: > > Rudy: > > I don't know that I wouldn't want to run NeXT 3.2, if I had some > places to get copies of it. As for LINUX, let's see: > > I run it on my Intel machines (& soon my Macs...) Not really relevant for this question, is it. We're talking about linux for NeXTs. > I can usually find someone who can answer questions What were those comp.sys.next newsgroups for again? > Internals & source code are available And a good thing, too, for when you need to recompile mount and tweak your system options so you can mount more than 32 nfs directories. (granted it's been fixed in later versions) > It's solid and continuously tested and upgraded (and the > upgrades are available, unlike NeXT) Some versions are solid. Slackware yes. Red Hat no. > Oh......it's free...... You mean they want you to pay MONEY for their work? Oh no. Not that. Anything but that. They might /support/ you or /give you upgrades and patches or something./ I don't know that I could take that. > I can run Applix on it Um, okay. > It is usually faster in similar implementations than > commercial UNIX packages. I don't know how true this would be of Linux on a NeXT slab, but maybe. I guarantee it wouldn't be nearly as elegant an operating system. > I prefer X Window Why? Because everyone else does? Which isn't to say that isn't a valid argument. Everyone uses X. It isn't as good as the NeXT interface and windowing system, but everyone uses it. Lots of people use Windows NT, too, that doesn't make it better than unix. If you want to run linux, get a cheap PC. That's what they're for, and that's what linux was designed for. NeXTs were designed for something better. If it was given to you, I bet you could sell it to a NeXT aficionado for enough money to buy a PC that will run linux a lot faster than the m68k would. Otherwise shell out the cash for a copy of NeXTSTEP, it's well worth the money, IMO. --Ren
From: Lutz Kwasniok <101667.1750@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Mail.app and CompuServe-Mailserver Date: 5 Mar 1997 17:36:48 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5fkavg$fuh$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! Does anybody know if I could use Mail.app with the mailserver of Compuserve, because they didn't have a pop/smtp mailserver. Did anybody know if there is a way to make use of the CompuServe- mailserver and how to configure my system to send mail to server and to get my mail from it ??? Any hints are wellcome. Lutz Kwasniok Hannover Germany Mail: 101667.1750@compuserve.com (MIME, ASCII) -- Lutz Kwasniok Hannover Germany Mail: 101667.1750@compuserve.com (MIME, ASCII)
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel. Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 10:34:03 -0500 Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <331AEF6B.9C1@worldbank.org> References: <01bc2673$d78f0460$71b797ce@jeanladu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jean Paul Ladue wrote: > Where can I find information on NextStep for Intel? I wednt to the Next > website but had no luck, all I found was a bunch info about OpenStep. Also > what is the academic price for NextStep. Thanks. The shipping version of NeXTSTEP is now called OPENSTEP for Mach. So what' you want is the Intel version of that. -- Stefano Pagiola 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer
From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: html2rtf Date: 6 Mar 1997 03:16:56 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5flcv8$v73@supernews.login.net> References: <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> <5fd35e$78a@news.tuwien.ac.at> In-Reply-To: <5fd35e$78a@news.tuwien.ac.at> ConvertSelection is a FREEWARE offered from Schneider Software. You can download it from: http://www.peak.org/next/apps/utils/converters/ConvertSelection.NIHS.bs.tar.gz (205 k) http://www.peak.org/next/apps/utils/converters/ConvertSelection.README (2 k) ConvertSelection offers the following options via the services menu: Convert to HTML Convert to HTML (incl. meta chars) Convert from HTML Convert from ISO-Latin1-encoded Convert from NEXTSTEP-encoded Convert to Lowercase Convert to Uppercase Convert to 7-Bit ASCII You can easily modify the conversion rules of these services, add new rules to any of them, or create entirely new conversion services to your liking. ConvertSelection can convert plain ASCII text selections, RTF text selections, and *** RTFD text selections ***. By the same token, you might be interested by the upcoming LatinByrd characteristics at: http://www.mlink.net/~tralala/ LatinByrd.app should be available by mid-March (English, French and German). Cheers, André Lalonde =================== > In <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> phm@eqt.ch wrote: > Hi > > > Does somebody know how I could convert html to rtf? > I found some sources on the net, but the results are not so convincing and > I don©t want to pay too much for it. > It makes me sad, to see how OmniWeb converts html->sgml->rtf, but I don©t > find a way to save it in rtf. Am I missing something? -----------------------------
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT TIFFs, JPEGs to Windows95 TIFFs, JPEGs Date: 6 Mar 1997 00:32:02 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5fl3a2$s84$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <5f25h4$15hs@magma.Mines.EDU> <5ff9vl$mtd@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Keywords: TIFF, Windows 95 In article <5ff9vl$mtd@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, Dave Scott <cogito@cats.ucsc.edu> wrote: >>(1) a public domain or free TIFF viewer for Windows95 (from which I assume >>I'll be able to print using the HP Windows95 printer driver), and > >I've tried many programs on NT, and I have been unable to find one that >displays NeXT TIFFs. Photoshop will open these files, but it won't satisfy the original poster's request--PD/free. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: laconsul@satlink.com (JORGE I. LARDIZABAL) Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.software.compability,comp.sys.next.software,satlink.lists.taylor-uucp Subject: COULD EUDORA LIGHT WORK IN UUCP?? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 17:29:46 GMT Organization: LARDIZABAL & ASOCIADOS Message-ID: <5fkaoa$1us@un3.satlink.com> Is possible that Eudora Light 3.0 (version beta 3.01)for Windows 3.1 or Windows 95 works reading and sending email from an UUCP Mail Server? I have notice that a version of Pegasus mail works in UUCP protocol, but I am not interested in this. If anybody know somethink, plase post here.-
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How does one display X-Windows on a NeXT? Date: 5 Mar 1997 14:25:40 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5fjvp4$obk$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5fhrob$5it@bogus.cts.com> hawk@cts.com (Mike Cianflone) wrote: > I have a few original NeXT machines running NeXT Step Release 3. Is there >a way I can display X-Windows on the screen? Basically I want to redirect >the display on a UNIX machine and have it point to the NeXT >(ie: setenv DISPLAY mynext:0.0) then have it display on the NeXT. Is it >built in to the NeXT? Is there third party software? Preferably freeware, or >low-cost shareware. There are two commercial solutions: co-Xist and CubXWindow. You can get a demo version of both of them from ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/X11. Peanuts is AFAIK mirrored in USA. Look at the readmes. There is also a shareware X server Xnext and a freeware server MouseX, which runs only on original black hardware. Both you can get from peanuts to (...next/X11/server). I'm using MouseX if I need a X11 display from time to time. It works but it is slow (don't try running xpilot on it ;-) ). Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: 6 Mar 1997 02:01:30 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5fl8hq$tsv@supernews.login.net> References: <5fhs1q$m87@nps.navy.mil> In-Reply-To: <5fhs1q$m87@nps.navy.mil> FYI, all Lighthouse apps (commercial AND academic) do run on NEXTSTEP as well as OPENSTEP. (English, French, and German versions are available.) André Lalonde WEB: http://www.mlink.net/~tralala/ (under construction) Distributor & Translator for Lighthouse Design, Impact Software, Parabase Software, Schneider Software, Stone Design, Sarrus Software. =========================================================== On 03/04/97, Kevin R Gue wrote: > Has Lighthouse decided not to port their NEXTSTEP apps to Openstep? I had > to dig for any mention of the old apps on their web page! In particular, > will the Academic bundle make it to Openstep?? > > --Kevin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Kevin R. Gue, Ph.D. | krgue@nps.navy.mil > Department of Systems Management | Tel: (408) 656-4299 > Naval Postgraduate School | Fax: (408) 656-3407 > Monterey, CA 93943 | http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~krgue > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >
From: Dan Scott <ds63627@navix.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Info on OpenBase? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 13:15:37 -0800 Organization: Optimal Solutions Message-ID: <331DE279.139E@navix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I was just checking out /pub/next/OpenStep/database/apps and I find something called OpenBase. The readme file really doesn't tell me much about this program. It says (in part): OpenBase Gamma (November 7, 1996) OpenBase SQL Server for OpenStep 4.1 Mach Obviusly I can assume that it is some kind of sql database program that runs under OpenStep. And since it is 'Gamma' I guess it's not a final release. But beyond the obvious what do you know about it? Is it any good? How complete is it? Is it commercial? shareware? freeware? Connects with EOF? Can quality apps be built using it or is it more or less a toy? Unfortunately I am not in a position to download it now and check it out or I would see what additional information is in the package itself. Decent affordable database servers are important to me and I would really like to know more. What can you tell me? Thanks for any information you have! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Scott Phone: (402)423-4101 Optimal Solutions Email: ds63627@navix.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NO DAMN ANSWER FROM PEANUTS SOFTWARE !!! Date: 5 Mar 1997 16:30:12 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <5fk72k$e9@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <01bc2588$8a23e740$26564ec2@vanessa> <msg39316.thr-d426f8.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> Hello, Because there seems to be some upset people in the US: (I've quoted several mails) ><bold>samir@interpac.be,UseNet writes:</bold> >>Nobody is doing anything at Peanuts Software to improve the >>Next-Step/Openstep >>community! Believe me, we try to do, and it's a hard job. Besides: we don't get any money for it and this is only to serve people with cheap CD's like _you_! It's a two men job, and both are students and are doing this in their spare time. >Hmmm. I sent them a check in US funds and received my discs within 10 days. Perhaps because I didn't swear at them... > Happily, a satisfied customer. >I've already ordered the CD over a month ago. The first 2 times >I sent e-mail inquiries I never heard back. Yesterday I got >an e-mail reply to me 3rd inquiry. So, they are trying to >work with potential customers but seem to have some problems. Dear Bob, thanks for posting in the news :-) However it seems that you are the only one with big troubles. I won't quote private mail, but you were stating not receiving our answers. However this is due to mail problems with _your_ adress! When I was using both e-mail adresses of yours, you did receive one answer of 4(!) we've sent out. Anyway we are starting a postal inquiry about your package now, which has been sent out 3 weeks ago and should have arrived even without air-shipping. In general: We are sending out orders within one week. European customers never complained and received their packages within 3 days. US customers should at least wait 2 weeks when ordered by air-mail and at least 3 weeks when ordered without air-mail. Because we only ship at the end of a week some people might encounter another delay of 3-4 days when we receive their ordering at the beginning of a week. We know that there is demand for US customers to receive the discs much earlier. Because of this we were trying to contact US distributors like Walnut Creek, Bifrost and Optimal Object. However they didn't respond and we are out of luck. We hope to satisfy every customer and to serve the NeXT community with up-to date software in the future. Thanks to everybody supporting Peanuts and it's mirrors. With regards, Bernhard. P.S.: in cases cdrom@peanuts.leo.org won't reply (or didn't) (this adress is _not_ an alias for me) please feel free to write to: scholz@leo.org -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de) -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: PEANUTS CDROM ARCHIVE Message-ID: <E6M88D.7ou@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:41:01 GMT In article <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> cfwood@vcn.bc.ca (Colin Wood) writes: > I also have emailed for information on ordering the cdrom and have also > got no reply. Whats up with these guys? I guess you guys forget the nice guys at peanuts do this in their spare time. And maybe there are just to much orders right now. You would prefer one of them sitting around just sending out emails saing sorry for the delay we are busy? ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9703051448.AA05049@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 15:48:27 +0100 Subject: 4 SALE: One Quix Daydream Dongle Hi there NeXTfolks, I have to part with the Quix Daydream Dongle, because I do not use it as often, as I thought....... So here it is: 4 SALE: Quix Daydream Dongle Version 2.11 (latest version avail.) (to run MacOS 7.5 compatible Software on a NeXT's black hardware) --- Unfortunatly this version will come without the manual and original packaging I use to have, but as I am a registered User, it should be no problem to obtain it at Quix Computerware near Luzern, Switzerland at a nominal fee...... ;-) It comes as a little white matchbox that connects to the DSP port of your NeXT, either a Station, Cube, Dimension, Pyro or even the NeXTNitro..... and will act like a Mac expect for Sound, but that's the only thing that will not be supported since the NeXT has a different way to work with Sound (since the Dongle is connected to the DSP port) and a Floppy disk that contains all the necessary software to just go ahead. (Stop the NeXT booting process, type bsd daydream and off you go!) --- The first person, who will offer $ 500.00 will get it! Shipping to the expense of the buyer. *** I do live in Hamburg, Germany, Europe *** Pls. e-mail if interested in buying that neat piece of hardware wizardry...... Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with AppleSTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news
From: boudra@cimac-res.univ-lyon1.fr (Abdel BOUDRAA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to display an Image using NXImage class... Date: 6 Mar 1997 16:15:09 GMT Organization: UCBL Message-ID: <5fmqid$jrm@tempo.univ-lyon1.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Sir, I am a new user of NeXT system. Could you mind tell me where I can find a sample code to display an image (8Bits, 256Colors, NxN)using the famous NXImage class. (my image is not a tiff, eps or ps image). This, is the code that I use to display my image (image.dat) but without success: /*--------------------*/ #import <appkit/NXImage.h> #import <appkit/appkit.h> void SetVisu(void) { /*NXImage *image;*/ /*an NXImage object*/ NXSize size; NXPoint position; /*image.dat: 64x64 matrix, 256Colors*/ id image=[NXImage findImageNamed:"image.dat"]; [image getSize:&size]; position.x=100; position.y=100; PSsetgray(NX_LTGRAY); [image composite:NX_SOVER toPoint:&position]; [self display]; } main() { [Application new]; SetVisu(); [NXApp run]; [NXApp free]; } Thanks in advance for your reply, via e-mail if possible, A. BOUDRAA e-mail: boudra@cimac-res.univ-lyon1.fr
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 10:09:04 -0700 Organization: Electric Lightwave, Inc. Message-ID: <33204B02.787D6A22@konnections.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <5fb04n$mc4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <331E587D.497106F@konnections.com> <331E0621.7985@netscape.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ren: Interesting post, I guess. Let's see... You said that my running Linux on my other systems was not relevant, in your opinion I guess since you're not the one who has to network & maintain them. Of course, since my original post concerned FINDING linux, not SHOULD I USE Linux, I don't see how this whole discussion is relevant. Then, about newsgroups. I think you'll find MUCH more activity in the Linux groups. As for source code, just because you don't have a better reason for access to the source doesn't mean that others haven't got some. (Not everyone's equipment comes from WalMart) As for FREE, free has many meanings, not just not paying for something. I've paid more to support my linux systems than I have on NT, Windows MacOS and NeXT. Because I use it the most and I get the most out of it. The fact that the OS isn't expensive shouldn't concern you, no one asked you to contribute things for nothing, that's the Linux community's business, not yours. Linux' free availability has probably created more markets in the last 5 years than most systems.) Besides, don't knock free or act holy, how much did you pay CERN for the web? How many T1's did you install? How many students and workers pay for their systems and access? Payment is irrelevent. LINUX is far better than any system I've ever paid to own, including support. As for my NeXT Station, No, I paid good money for that. And I'll pay money to keep using it as I like which means X Window and Unix if I can find it. As for your childish refence to using X "because everyone else does" {which is a dumb comment} No, I like it better. I use NT on some of my PC (and I OWN plenty, thanks) because I have to to maintain the NT systems I work on. But I use Linux for myself. So, it boils down to you want me to like NeXT and I want me to like Linux. I do like NeXT but the NeXT ideology is lost forever and soon they won't support your cubes or slabs. Eventually we'll all have to find a solution to our NeXT problems. I think NeXT, the OS and the Machine, are beautiful, don't get me wrong. I am a zealot too, but I'd like to know that I have the tools I need to work with and NeXT can't guarentee me that. (Anymore than Microsoft or Apple can) because they are market driven and not user driven. Linux has what it has and evolves out of need, not out of hype and marketing and lack of choice. You say I want X because everyone uses it, well I want Linux so no one tells me I HAVE to use NeXTStep or whatever they're peddling that week. Thanks for the exercise. If anyone wants to talk about HOW we can get Linux and not WHY we should or shouldn't please let me know.... Mike Allison (mallison@konnections.com) Anthony Cordeiro wrote: > > mike allison wrote: > > > > Rudy: > > > > I don't know that I wouldn't want to run NeXT 3.2, if I had some > > places to get copies of it. As for LINUX, let's see: > > > > I run it on my Intel machines (& soon my Macs...) > > Not really relevant for this question, is it. We're talking > about linux for NeXTs. > > > I can usually find someone who can answer questions > > What were those comp.sys.next newsgroups for again? > > > Internals & source code are available > > And a good thing, too, for when you need to recompile > mount and tweak your system options so you can mount more than 32 > nfs directories. (granted it's been fixed in later versions) > > > It's solid and continuously tested and upgraded (and the > > upgrades are available, unlike NeXT) > > Some versions are solid. Slackware yes. Red Hat no. > > > Oh......it's free...... > > You mean they want you to pay MONEY for their work? Oh > no. Not that. Anything but that. They might /support/ you or > /give you upgrades and patches or something./ I don't know that I > could take that. > > > I can run Applix on it > > Um, okay. > > > It is usually faster in similar implementations than > > commercial UNIX packages. > > I don't know how true this would be of Linux on a NeXT > slab, but maybe. I guarantee it wouldn't be nearly as elegant > an operating system. > > > I prefer X Window > > Why? Because everyone else does? Which isn't to say that isn't > a valid argument. Everyone uses X. It isn't as good as the NeXT > interface and windowing system, but everyone uses it. Lots of people > use Windows NT, too, that doesn't make it better than unix. > > If you want to run linux, get a cheap PC. That's what they're > for, and that's what linux was designed for. NeXTs were designed for > something better. If it was given to you, I bet you could sell it > to a NeXT aficionado for enough money to buy a PC that will run > linux a lot faster than the m68k would. Otherwise shell out the cash > for a copy of NeXTSTEP, it's well worth the money, IMO. > > --Ren
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 6 Mar 1997 12:01:05 -0700 Organization: Publisher -- Burning Eagle Book Company Message-ID: <3320649D.3DACD31A@konnections.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <E6Kpvu.907@novice.uwaterloo.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Evans wrote: > > In article <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com>, Sorry David: You're incorrect. I have a '92 vintage NeXTStation with a 040mhz chip and room for 64MB of memory. This is a common (as I understand) late version. I can get one for you if you like....(No, Anthony, it won't be free) -Mike > mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> wrote: > >Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT > >systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these > >machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really > >be a screamer for most everything. > > > > The only 40MHz black hardware are Turbo slabs which have the Nitro board > installed: about 5 or so in the world. Most are 25MHz non-Turbo hardware, > while some are 33MHz Turbo. > > >NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to > >mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. > > > > 4.x is big, yes. I won't go further into this flame troll. > > -- > David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca > Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ > University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer > Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is Big Green CD? Date: 6 Mar 1997 12:09:05 -0700 Organization: Publisher -- Burning Eagle Book Company Message-ID: <33206678.42831ED@konnections.com> References: <331D8B68.4C64@smart.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gh@smart.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GH: Email me at mallison@konnections.com and I'll send the email address. You can find it on the net by searching "Big Green" I'll post the address after I retrieve it... -Mike gh@smart.net wrote: > > Can someone point me to the Big Green CD and any > other shareware for OPENSTEP. > > Thanks, > --gh
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <22496856059808@digifix.com> Date: 6 Mar 1997 20:42:14 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5437857680935@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for Sonata font Date: 6 Mar 1997 21:45:49 GMT Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> Well, I guess the subject says it all. Thanks for responding to schumach@uni2a.unige.ch Jorg Schumacher
From: schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printer software modification Date: 6 Mar 1997 21:54:34 GMT Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <schumach-0603972256170001@129.194.16.71> I read some time ago on this panel about a software modification that allows to start up the black printer on black hardware only at the time you actually need it -- instead of having it on at the beginning of every session. Did anybody keep the relevant posting? J. Schumacher schumach@uni2a.unige.ch
From: Steve Haynes <shaynes@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SBook (does any still use this?) bug help Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 17:39:35 -0500 Organization: Widomaker Public Access Internet (804)221-8070 Message-ID: <331F47A7.6F7E@ibm.net> References: <edewE6BxEs.838@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric Dew wrote: > > Ordinarily, I'd ask Sarrus Software, but I don't know if they're still > around (although there's no harm in trying...). > > Anyway, I'm using SBook 3.1. The bug is when I click on the envelope icon > (next to the address in the content field of an addresse). What happens is > that if I muck with the size of the envelope printer panel (which comes > up when i click on the envelope icon), the next time I launch the app and > use the envelope icon, I get the envelope printer panel sized wrong. > > What is wrong? Well, about 50% of the panel is useless panelling. The > envelope image field is reduced to some small amount. > > I have asked Sarrus about this and they told me what to do, but I have > forgotten it. It was something like typing "dwrite NXApps sbook.app" or > something like that on a command line. > > Can someone tell me what is the correct incantation? > > Since I don't read this newsgroup TOO often, perhaps respondees can > cc the answer to me at edew@netcom.com. > > Thanks, > > EDEW Hello, I use SBook every day but do not really use the envelope option very much. What I have done though is once I set up a layout that I would like to keep I save it using the Save AS button and Name it. Once that is done whenever you launch this window there is the option under the Stationary panel to choose the custom layout and it should reformat the envelope automatically. At least it does on my machine. I'm not certain this will help you but I certainly hope that it does. By the way, Sarrus is still around they just don't answer their email very promptly. I guess they have had to get real jobs to pay for their Next development. Steve Haynes EQB Industries.
From: jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: web applications Date: 6 Mar 1997 23:58:08 GMT Organization: Time Warner Pathfinder Message-ID: <jlimpert-0603972002060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> Help. Where do I get shareware web applications for email http ftp etc. newsreader. thanks
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SciPlot Legend Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:28:14 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970306162623.7827A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII SciPlot is a great package, but I can't figure out how to turn on the legend. Where can I find the option? BTW, is there more complete documentation somewhere (more than in the Help menu)? Thanks. Robert
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: plain text tables with tbl and nroff: how? Date: 7 Mar 1997 00:53:04 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <5fnotg$a61@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <19970305205146175694@[192.0.2.1]> Cc: _henq@phsoft.knoware.nl In <19970305205146175694@[192.0.2.1]> Henk van Tijen wrote: | I recently posted the message below to comp.text, but I am still left | with my problemette. I think the problem is Nextstep (3.2) specific, as | I did get good results on a HP/UX system at work... | | ..........................original posting............................ | | Hi all, | | I have a challenge in dealing with tbl en nroff. | What I try to do is generate a table like the one | below: | __________________________________________ | Language lesson 12 | __________________________________________ | Nr English French | __________________________________________ | 1 Father, the girl Papa, disait la | said, is it true fille, est-ce | mother smokes que c'est vrai | the pipe? que maman fume | la pipe? | __________________________________________ | 2 Du pain, du vin Bread, wine and | et du Boursin! cheese. | __________________________________________ | | | So I want to make a multi-column table with each | cell having wrapped multi-line text in it. The | medium is plain text, so a combination of tbl and | nroff seemed a natural fit. Somebody changed the default behavior of nroff on the NeXT. It no longer emits Teletype 37 codes as its default output, so col(1) doesn't have anything to work on. On the other hand, nroff emits the combination "underline backspace character" to simulate italic characters in the column headings. Applying this (empirically determined a few minutes ago) knowledge to help select the command line options, I use the following command line to produce the desired results: % tbl lesson.nr | nroff -T37 | col -b > table.txt Switches: -T37 emit Teletype 37 codes -b don't backspace, just print the last character to be sent to that column. And I get the sought-after table. (NextStep 3.3, but I'm sure it is the same for any NS 1.0 or greater). -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is Big Green CD? Date: 6 Mar 1997 23:38:16 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5fnkh8$rf6@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <331D8B68.4C64@smart.net> gh@smart.net wrote: > Can someone point me to the Big Green CD and any > other shareware for OPENSTEP. For the Big Green CD, check: http://www.skylee.com/ It's currently at version 7.0 --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Robert Trout <rtrout@capecod.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SOLVED! - Problem with PPP and OmniWeb Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 22:05:42 -0600 Message-ID: <331F9416.13E1@capecod.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many thanks to all who responded to my problem below! I was missing a resolv.conf file with my provider's name server IP address and I needed to specify the "defaultroute" option when starting up PPP. I can now browse from my Nextstation!! Problem: For every URL I specify using the "www.xxx.yyy" format, OmniWeb responds with host does not exists. If I specify my internet service provider's IP address, OmniWeb responds connection refused. My PPP connection seems to be working fine (the log looks good and I can ping my provider's host). Why does my provider and OmniWeb not get along? I can connect with no problems using my Win95/PC. Thanks for your help. Bob Trout rtrout@capecod.net
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Info on OpenBase? Date: 7 Mar 1997 00:44:12 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5fnocs$snn@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <331DE279.139E@navix.net> Dan Scott <ds63627@navix.net> wrote: > Hi, > > I was just checking out /pub/next/OpenStep/database/apps and I find > something called OpenBase. The readme file really doesn't tell me > much about this program. It says (in part): > > OpenBase Gamma (November 7, 1996) > OpenBase SQL Server for OpenStep 4.1 Mach > > Obviusly I can assume that it is some kind of sql database program > that runs under OpenStep. And since it is 'Gamma' I guess it's not a > final release. But beyond the obvious what do you know about it? Is > it any good? How complete is it? Is it commercial? shareware? > freeware? Connects with EOF? Can quality apps be built using it or is > it more or less a toy? Check: http://www.openbase.com/ OpenBase is the current version of a product which used to be called QuickBase, and the company used to be called SofDesign Solutions. I used to work with QuickBase, and I thought it was a very good product. When NeXT and Sun started talking about OpenStep, SofDesign changed the name of QuickBase to OpenBase, and changed the name of the company to match. It is a relational database management engine. It can be used with just plain SQL commands (or at least it used to), or you can use EOF to connect to it. My guess is that this "gamma" version is one which has been rewritten to the OpenStep API's (instead of NeXTSTEP API's). So while this *rewrite* may be a gamma version, the company is not a newcomer to writing database engines for the NeXTSTEP environment. From their web pages: Since 1991, OpenBase International has sold OpenBase and QuickBase database software to customers in 37 foreign countries, spanning over 20 industries. Customers such as Canon, the Royal Danish Police, MCI, AT&T, and NeXT Software use OpenBase for building mission critical applications. Now OpenBase delivers high-speed database access over the internet. It is a commercial product. I don't know the current pricing, but as I remember it used to be priced at around the $1,000 level. That was a few years ago though, I have no idea of the current pricing. Note that this is a product more for developers, it is not an end-user database system. I'd recommend casual database users look at Create from Stone Design. Certainly worth looking into. There might be some information about it at www.stepwise.com, too. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Mickey Finnegan <mick_fenn@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box --- CORRECTION... Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 20:22:04 -0700 Organization: Electric Lightwave, Inc. Message-ID: <3320DB5C.44A2@hotmail.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to print a correction and an apology. When I stated 40mhz in my original post, I meant a 68040 chip. I was thinking faster than my mind works. Because of this I erroneously corrected David Evans who correctly stated the 40mhz boards were rare. I was still thinking 68040 series processor. As david pointed out, I do, indeed have a 25mhz machine, not 40. Please accept my apology...... -Mike mike allison wrote: > > Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT > systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these > machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really > be a screamer for most everything. > > NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to > mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. > > If you can/know.... email me mallison@konnections.com > > Thanks, > > -Mike
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Info on OpenBase? Date: 7 Mar 1997 03:31:42 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5fo26u$oof$3@news.xmission.com> References: <331DE279.139E@navix.net> <5fnocs$snn@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > [...OpenBase...]. > Note that this is a product more for developers, it is not an > end-user database system. I'd recommend casual database users > look at Create from Stone Design. I think you meant DataPhile. :-) I use both DataPhile and OpenBase...and like them both. As Garance says, one is the high end SQL engine for EOF, etc. and the other is a "personal" flat file DB which is good enough for many users who don't need a relational database. -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703061430.JAA07541@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 09:30:26 -0500 Subject: Mail.app: Reply-in-same-format - NeXTMail - and keep fonts, etc? Maybe I'm being a little slow here, but does anyone know how to reply to a NeXTMail message with font-changes, etc and have the original message's formatting remain? Every time I have a message in NeXTMail and click 'reply' the text turns to ascii. I thought there was a way to do it, perhaps I've forgotten. TjL
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Bugs with Lynx on NeXT Date: 6 Mar 1997 19:58:44 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5fn7ll$iet@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I solely use lynx as my web browser, as I must interact from home via my modem (TipTop software) a ttty terminal. (NeXTStep 3.2, and Lynx 2.6.) I have a problem that makes using Lynx rather difficult. I believe it only appeared when I upgraded in 1996 to v. 2.6 from an unknown earlier version. What happens is that the page sifts up a line or two, or sometimes much more, by which time it is quite unreadable. THus, for instance, normally at the bottom of the lynx screen I will see (NORMAL LINK) Use right-arrow or <return> to activate. H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list But sometimes, for instance on the official lynx homepage, just to underscore that it is not a problem of the site, a line will be added at the bottom and it will look like Data transfer complete (NORMAL LINK) Use right-arrow or <return> to activate.k; Left to go back. H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list Or, for instance when I pursue a link, it might look like: Getting http://www.yahoo.com/text/headlines/tech/ -- press space for next page -- H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list The effct is that I must realize that the cursor is also shifted, so what line the crusor is one above is in fact the link that is pursued. Now that I have grown used to, but sometimes the problem just gets worse and worse. Here is an extra line in the shift: Data trof view. (Text entry field) Enter text. Use UP or DOWN arrows or tab to move off. H Enter text into the field by typing on the keyboard NORMAL LINK) Use right-arrowvor <retu n> tollctivate. H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list (Actually, that was two extra lines!) A second problem is that when I page down, if a word on the previous page (or link) was highlighted, then so long as at that precise location on the screen no new text appears, that highlighted word still persists. THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS! When links are scattered across the page, this often makes reading quite impossible. THis problem most certainly did not exist in the earlier version of lynx that I had which did not so obviously highlight the links. ANyhow, am I alone in these prooblems? I sthere something that can be done about them. They totally degrade the web browsing experience! Lynx is my only (remote) option. Thanks, Lones .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. / L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \ / `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' ` Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 (617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax) lones@lones.mit.edu
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Info on OpenBase? Date: 7 Mar 1997 04:28:16 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5fo5h0$4o8@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <331DE279.139E@navix.net> <5fnocs$snn@usenet.rpi.edu> <5fo26u$oof$3@news.xmission.com> don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) wrote: > Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > > Note that [OpenBase] is a product more for developers, it is > > not an end-user database system. I'd recommend casual database > > users look at Create from Stone Design. > > I think you meant DataPhile. :-) Uh, yeah. People wanting a database would probably have better luck with DataPhile than Create... Sorry about that! > I use both DataPhile and OpenBase...and like them both. As > Garance says, one is the high end SQL engine for EOF, etc. and > the other is a "personal" flat file DB which is good enough for > many users who don't need a relational database. Yep! --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app: Reply-in-same-format - NeXTMail - and keep fonts, etc? Date: 7 Mar 1997 04:37:42 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5fo62m$4o8@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <199703061430.JAA07541@kira.peak.org> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > > Maybe I'm being a little slow here, but does anyone know how to > reply to a NeXTMail message with font-changes, etc and have the > original message's formatting remain? > > Every time I have a message in NeXTMail and click 'reply' the > text turns to ascii. > > I thought there was a way to do it, perhaps I've forgotten. Under preferences, check the "Compose" panel and turn on "Reply in the same format". I forget if this is one of those funky options that you have to quit and restart Mail.app for it to take effect. (I wouldn't think so...). If that's not working for some reason, you mainly need to make sure that your compose window is in NeXTmail format before you click on the "Forward" button to copy the original message. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is Big Green CD? Date: 6 Mar 1997 12:24:01 -0700 Organization: Publisher -- Burning Eagle Book Company Message-ID: <33206A10.1E876EE7@konnections.com> References: <331D8B68.4C64@smart.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gh@smart.net Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3EE84AAC1CB3D8913B64E2F0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3EE84AAC1CB3D8913B64E2F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gh@smart.net wrote: > > Can someone point me to the Big Green CD and any > other shareware for OPENSTEP. > > Thanks, > --gh --------------3EE84AAC1CB3D8913B64E2F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="bgcd.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="bgcd.txt" From - Sun Feb 16 19:54:09 1997 Received: from tanith.skylee.com (tanith.skylee.com [207.44.161.70]) by mail.konnections.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA25713 for <mallison@konnections.com>; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:51:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by tanith.skylee.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA14634; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:51:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:51:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702100451.UAA14634@tanith.skylee.com> To: mallison@konnections.com From: Majordomo@skylee.com Subject: Welcome to bgcd-announce Reply-To: Majordomo@skylee.com Status: RO X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 1233 -- Welcome to the bgcd-announce mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@skylee.com" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe bgcd-announce mallison@konnections.com Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: BGCD-announce is a low-volume, moderated mailing list for announcements about current and future editions of the Big Green CD, a collection of freely-redistributable software for NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP systems. If you do not use NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP, you will have little interest in this mailing list. Announcements will include information about upcoming releases, the status of a new edition at the factory, ship dates, and (in the unlikely event it proves necessary) critical technical support information. Administrative Info =================== To subscribe, send e-mail to <bgcd-announce-request@skylee.com> with the single word SUBSCRIBE in the body of your message. To unsubscribe, send e-mail to <bgcd-announce-request@skylee.com> with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of your message. To contact a human, e-mail <postmaster@skylee.com>. --------------3EE84AAC1CB3D8913B64E2F0--
From: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: GNU gcc & g77 FORTRAN, OpenStep 4.1 and NeXT Inc. Date: 7 Mar 1997 03:45:41 GMT Organization: Instituto Canario de Investigaciones Agrarias -ICIA Message-ID: <5fo315$8ss@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> I am posting this message because I am quite upset about the way the ask_next people handled my question and maybe somebody out there will give me a hand on this. The message is a little bit long (sorry!), but I didn't want to take anything away that would rest meaning to the question. There are 3 parts to this posting. The first one is the original letter I sent to ask_next@next.com after one of their technicians advised me to do so over the phone. The second one is the Chris Hapka (NeXT) reply, and finally my last message to him. Thank you for your patience!. RMC ----------- 1. Original letter to ask_next ------------------------- Dear Sirs, I called NeXT Technical Support, spoke to one of your technicians and he indicated that this should be something you could be interested on. Here is the problem. I have been a NeXTStep user for 7 years since I got my beloved NeXTStation Turbo Mono. Since then I have upgraded my operating system several times but the time has come to get a new faster system (Pentium Pro 200). I work on the enviromental modeling field, namely developing FORTRAN finite elements models for surface runoff. I bought OpenStep 4.1 Academic User/Dev for Intel 20 days ago, installed it and tested on the new system and so far works great!. I checked for a FORTRAN compiler (comercial or not) for the operating system and was quite depressed to find that both Absoft and NAG have discontinued support for OS4.1. It seems the the only available choices are the new GNU g77 or the f2c script. g77 seems to be quite interesting since GNU claims that you can do gdb debugging and some optimization. I downloaded gcc-2.7.2.2 and g77-0.5.19 from the archives a month ago and tried to install it into the new OpenStep 4.1 (with the devoloper package) system. When trying to compile it it went OK through the configure step but then it stopped at the make bootstrap process. I posted a message to the next.comp.sys.software and next.comp.sys.software newsgroups to see if somebody had encountered this problem and had found a work-around. A fellow (thank you Dave!) answered explaining that the new OpenStep libraries are dynamic and that a new nextstep.h (in the config subdirectory of the GNU distribution) needed to be used in place of the one included (I am including the file below). I tried this and it compiled (with lots of warnings during linking time). Finally, I compiled and run a model written in FORTRAN77 and after similar linking warnings from g77 I obtained an executable and run it. The program run OK but the results are quite different to those obtained with any other compiler I have used up to now (f77 DEC, f77 sun, MS-FORTRAN Power station for NT or even f2c). I am certain by exchanging messages over the net that the NeXT OpenStep community will apreciate very much your efforts since as I said before, we, FORTRAN Users don't seem to have any other choices at this time. Please let me know if you need any further info. RMC -------------- 2. Chris Hapka (NeXT) reply --------------------- From: Christopher Hapka <Christopher_Hapka@next.com> Subject: [107567] Problem with g77 on OpenStep 4.1 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 16:39:15 -0800 Dear Dr. Munoz-Carpena, Ask_Next@next.com is provided as a communication mechanism for information about NeXT Software, Inc. products. Unfortunately, we are unable to provide support for third-party development tools or other third-party products. Please contact the vendor of your FORTRAN compiler for assistance. Thank you, Chris Hapka Objectline Engineer Apple Computer, Inc. - NeXT Software ---------------------- 3. My reply to him ------------------------- Dear Chris, Thanks for your VERY STUPID reply... As you probably are aware of, g77 is a freeware (no vendor here Chris) GNU (Free Software Foundation) fortran 77 compiler, developed by a number of volunteers around the net. As I understand it, NeXT cc compiler was developed originally from the GNU source code. When I sent you my message, the intention was to let you know that you guys changed something fundamental between NeXTStep and OpenStep, so that the GNU cc and g77, that used to compile just fine under NS3.x, does not compile anymore in OS 4.x. So I was asking for a hint to what had changed and how I could get around it to get the software to compile (in my original message (see below) I said that somebody mentioned something about the dynamic libraries). If NeXT is to make it on the long run it will have to help users like me that are willing to move along the upgrade line and make things work. Visit the news and you will see questions about: does it work under 4.x?, is it better or worse?. I am sorry to find out that in the end you guys don't care about it, just give the easy answer and forget about it. I am still stuck with no FORTRAN compiler because you guys did not get along with Absoft so that they can develop the new version of their Fortran compiler or because the NAG people don't feel they can invest any resources to support a dead operating system. Chris, you just proved them right. RMC -- R. Munoz-Carpena, Ph.D. Visiting Scholar e-mail:rmunozc@eos.ncsu.edu BAE Dept. Box 7625 Fax: (919)515-7760 North Carolina State University Phone:(919)515-6732 Raleigh, NC 27695-2625
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: GNU gcc & g77 FORTRAN, OpenStep 4.1 and NeXT Inc. Date: 7 Mar 1997 05:27:27 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5fo8vv$4o8@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5fo315$8ss@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) wrote: > I am posting this message because I am quite upset about the way > the ask_next people handled my question and maybe somebody out > there will give me a hand on this. [...] The first one is the > original letter I sent to ask_next@next.com after one of their > technicians advised me to do so over the phone. The second one > is the Chris Hapka (NeXT) reply, and finally my last message to > him. Thank you for your patience!. While I can understand your frustration, the reply from ask_next is perfectly understandable to me. The fact that the thing you want to use comes from GNU does not mean that NeXT has to support it when you want to use it. Support costs time and money. NeXT (really Apple now) has a few other important issues they have to address, issues that *only* they can address. No matter how you phrase your reply to that observation, the fact remains that you are asking them to support free software. If they have the right answer for your problem, then obviously they should provide it. However, if they do not *already* have the answer for the problem you see, then it is quite reasonable for them to say "We did not write this, we do not have the time to look into it". The problem is not that Apple is too busy to provide you with support for free software, the problem is that you have no other good options for fortran on OpenStep. If Apple does a good job getting Rhapsody together, then it is much more likely that writers of fortran compilers will support both Rhapsody and NeXTSTEP. The best thing for Apple and OpenStep users right now is for Apple to get the Rhapsody project working. I understand that this reply (my reply) is not very helpful either, and I'm sympathetic to that. I recently had some people ask me about NeXTSTEP, who ended up going somewhere else due to the lack of a good fortran compiler. I agree completely with the idea that availability of a fortran compiler would be an advantage for the OpenStep platform, but it is not Apple's business to write fortran compilers. Their business is to get the operating system together, and to make sure the transition from MacOS to Rhapsody is successful. If they do *that* job, then other companies will handle the issue of fortran compilers. If Apple does not succeed at that job, then it won't really make any difference if there's a fortran compiler available for a platform which (by then) will be dead. In your reply to the comments from ask_next, you said: > Thanks for your VERY STUPID reply... As you probably are aware > of, g77 is a freeware (no vendor here Chris) GNU (Free Software > Foundation) fortran 77 compiler, developed by a number of > volunteers around the net. I imagine that ask_next probably understands that quite well. I'd say your reply is much more stupid and obnoxious than theirs, because you are lecturing them on something that *you* do not seem to understand. If g77 is supported by volunteers, then you have to go to *those* people for questions. It is not the responsibility of Apple/NeXT to support everything which has been written by volunteers outside the of company, particular for things made available to you for free and which Apple had nothing to do with. This is particularly true for a large and complex program such as a compiler, where it really could take them a fair amount of time to investigate what is going on. Now, there are many helpful people in the GNU area, and I do sincerely hope that someone in that group knows the answer to the situation you are facing. I do think that the reply you got from ask_next was perfectly reasonable, that your reply to them was not, and I felt I should say so. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9703060855.AA05283@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 09:55:47 +0100 Subject: 4 SALE: Correction Quix Daydream Sorry, I wanted to post this to marketplace...... Should't do more than 3 thing at a time... ;-) Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with AppleSTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news ---
From: Yi Liu <liuyi@crystalball.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Bugs with Lynx on NeXT Date: 7 Mar 1997 09:11:14 GMT Organization: 9H, Inc. Message-ID: <5fom3i$rli@library.airnews.net> References: <5fn7ll$iet@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) wrote: > [...Lynx2.6 for NS...] > What happens is that the page sifts up a line or two, or sometimes much > more, by which time it is quite unreadable. Lones, I've used lynx in xterm/Terminal.app/Procomm(Windows) and a bunch of other terminal apps, and I have experienced most of problems you've described here with Procomm. Some of problems might be with your lynx settings and some are results of poor curses implementation (not likely) or vt100 (or whatever) emulation of the application. Although I ran into some other weird problems using Terminal.app with PPP link, I don't have the highlighting nightmare nor the messed-up status lines you see with lynx in TipTop window (?). [I've never seen or used TipTop.] But I used to have very similar problems when I had to rely on Procomm on Windows and lynx. > [...] > (NORMAL LINK) Use right-arrow or <return> to activate. > H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history > list > But sometimes, for instance on the official lynx homepage, just to > [...] > it will look like > Data transfer complete > (NORMAL LINK) Use right-arrow or <return> to activate.k; Left to go > back. > H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history > list > [...] Do you have the Novice mode turned on? I doubt you still need the prompts since you've been using it for so long. Tryng upgrade yourself to "Advanced" either by editing ~/.lynxrc or use "O" -> "u" in lynx. It should get rid of the the lines on the bottom. One thing I've learned using Procomm on Windows was that you'll need to tweak all the terminal setting you can to get a better result for applications that rely on a standard (e.g. vt100) behavior, like lynx. I guess TipTop has plenty of these configs as well. Also, you'll need to make sure the TERM variable on the account you dial into should be set to match the terminal type emulated by TipTop, this could be causing part of your screen refresh/redraw problems with lynx. > A second problem is that when I page down, if a word on the previous page > (or link) was highlighted, then so long as at that precise location > on the screen no new text appears, that highlighted word still persists. > [...] This might be a bug in lynx, although I really doubt it, since I don't have such a problem with lynx in xterms and terminal.app. But if it persists after you've tweaked in all the above mentioned places, a temporary relief is to hit "Ctrl-l" to force refresh of screen. If "Ctrl-l" still doesn't work, it's a good bet that you've got a mismatched terminal config between TipTop and TERM settting on your dialin account. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@dragon-dance.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: vta@ludens.elte.hu (DMON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Can OpenStep switch off an Intel machine through APM? Message-ID: <1997Mar7.101834.37926@ludens> Date: 7 Mar 97 10:18:34 +0100 Organization: Eotvos University, Budapest, Hungary Dear all, I'm a hungarian student. I have an intel machine which can be switched off programatically through an appropriate APM BIOS call. What do you think, how can I manage OpenStep to switch off the machine instead of saying "Now it's safe to turn off the computer."? Thanks for any comments, advices. Best wishes, Tibor
From: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <5fo315$8ss@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> Control: cancel <5fo315$8ss@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> Date: 7 Mar 1997 03:45:41 GMT Organization: Instituto Canario de Investigaciones Agrarias -ICIA Sender: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) Message-ID: <cancel.5fo315$8ss@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> Please cancel this article
From: willi@marvin.aaa-plus.com (Wilhelm Pitzeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SUMMARY: Which X server? Date: 7 Mar 1997 13:02:16 GMT Organization: EUnet EDV DienstleistungsgesmbH, Wien Message-ID: <5fp3ko$ajj@news.Austria.EU.net> > Which is the best X server for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? Four products can be found, two of them still being supported: 1. Xnext: URL: http://skynet.oph.rwth-aachen.de/~sl/Xnext/ Price: USD 20 (shareware registration fee) Platforms: i386 (Mach), m68k, hppa, sparc X-Version: X11R6 Comments: low-cost solution, not very fast 2. MouseX: URL: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/X11/server/MouseX Price: None (?), Not supported anymore Platform: m68k (NS >= 3.0) X-Version: X11R5 Comments: out-of-date 3. CubXWindow: URL: ftp://peanuts.leo.orf/pub/comp/platforms/next/commercial/X11/ Price: USD 275 (commercial runtime), write to cubx@intuisys.com for information about academic and development prices Platforms: i386 (Mach), m68k (no ND), hppa, sparc (all NS >= 3.2) X-Version: X11R6 Comments: most advanced solution, costs a little 4. co-Xist: URL: ftp://peanuts.leo.orf/pub/comp/platforms/next/commercial/X11/ Price: mail to co-Xist_info@pencom.com for information Platforms: i386 (NS >= 3.2), m68k (NS >= 3.1), hppa (NS >= 3.2) X-Version: X11R5 Comments: Not supported anymore -- *************** Dipl.-Ing. Wilhelm Pitzeier **************** ***** AAA+ Software Forschungs- und Entwicklungs-GmbH ****** *************** A-1010 Rotenturmstrasse 22 ***************** ******** E-Mail: willi@aaa-plus.com (NEXT/MIME/ISO) ******** * ISDN Voice: (+43 1) 5336665/32 **** Fax: (+43 1) 5336890 * * Private: A-1060 Stiegengasse 9/14 * Tel. (+43 1) 5813472 * ************************************************************ "Happiness lies in being privileged to work hard for long hours in doing whatever you think is worth doing." -Jubal Harshaw money on free development for g77. A lot of Gnu developers are really interested to get there programs fine ang bug free. If you can provode good bug reports, they probably will help you. If you can provide a machine or similiar, they probably will solve your problem. If you spend money, you also might get firms, which provide support for g77. Even the FSF/GNU has a gold service and will compile their program for your favorite system, (to raise funds for their free projects) ;-> Regards Bernhard Reiter
From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ncftp doesn't work? Date: 7 Mar 1997 13:14:12 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fp4b4$ikt@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi all, Does anyone know why my ncftp doesn't work? It stops whenever creating a new directory (I use it for mirroring) (with the message:couldn't creat directory, file exists). I use OpenStep4.0/Intel Thanks a lot, Khanh Nguyen,
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Bugs with Lynx on NeXT Date: 7 Mar 1997 13:17:53 GMT Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <5fp4i1$adl$3@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> References: <5fn7ll$iet@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <5fn7ll$iet@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>, lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) writes: There are many configurable things in the TERMINAL emulation. But lynx also might have a bug, why not trying the new 2.7? Bernhard
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I suddenly have a background image Date: 7 Mar 1997 03:11:54 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <5fo11q$4gd@dropit.pgh.net> I was fiddling with a TIFF image earlier. I finally quit the program and logged off. Later, when I logged back on, the image appeared as my background (or desktop). I have never had anything but the normal grey background. I don't know what is causing this or how to get rid of it. It also seems to be slowing down the machine. Can you help? ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: help me with ppp Date: 7 Mar 1997 14:24:10 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5fp8ea$hkd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <jlimpert-0503971833060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) wrote: >i have nextstep 3.3 for intel and a pc w/ 28.8 modem. > >how do I get a ppp connection to the internet established?? Open Digital Librarian and load /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin. Then search for PPP. The manual describes step by step what you need to do to get connected. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for Sonata font Date: 7 Mar 1997 16:33:10 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <5fpg06$rh2@tribune.usask.ca> References: <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> <5fpep8$me4$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> Jorg Schumacher wrote: > Well, I guess the subject says it all. > Thanks for responding to > > schumach@uni2a.unige.ch > > Jorg Schumacher I ordered it from Adobe. The biggest problem is that you can't just buy a font any more. You have to get a CD-ROM with a zillion fonts on it and then unlock the ones you want (and pay for). Of course there's no software for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP to do this. I unlocked the fonts on a Solaris machine here and then copied the font files to my NeXTstation. I hope Rhapsody makes it big enough that this sort of annoyance will no longer be necessary! Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory Phone: (306) 966-6308 University of Saskatchewan FAX: (306) 966-6058 Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 7 Mar 1997 15:49:32 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm248-21.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fpdec$me4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <5fb04n$mc4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <331E587D.497106F@konnections.com> Cc: mallison@konnections.com In <331E587D.497106F@konnections.com> mike allison wrote: > Rudy: > > I don't know that I wouldn't want to run NeXT 3.2, if I had some places > to get copies of it. As for LINUX, let's see: > > I run it on my Intel machines (& soon my Macs...) The same with OpenStep > I can usually find someone who can answer questions Same here. > Internals & source code are available That is what makes me scream. > It's solid and continuously tested and upgraded (and the > upgrades are available, unlike NeXT) I am not interested in continuous upgrading of my system. And no, I don't enjoy recompiling kernels every other week. > > Oh......it's free...... > Yup. We had it as a server for some time. And had to get rid of it. > I can run Applix on it > It is usually faster in similar implementations than commercial UNIX > packages. > Cannot comment. > I prefer X Window > I don't. > Need I go on? > > If NeXT 3.2 of so great give me your copy.... > I am missin the logic here. If NeXT 3.2 if so bad, would YOU mind giving me YOUR copy? You don't need it anymore. I do. I would prefer NS 3.3 though. Please e-mail me for my shipping address. Oh, and I will pay shipping. Thanks, Rudy. > -Mike > > Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > > > > In <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> mike allison wrote: > > > Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT > > > systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these > > > machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really > > > be a screamer for most everything. > > > > > > NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to > > > mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. > > > > > > If you can/know.... email me mallison@konnections.com > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > I am running NS 3.2 and am not moving to OpenStep. If it is not a screamer, > > at least I don't have to scream. Could tell me why one would want to run > > Linux instead of NeXTstep 3.2 [That idea scares me and DOES make me scream]. > > > > I might be missing a point, so I would like learn .... > > > > Good luck. > > > > Rudy. > > > > -- > > Rudy Blazek Michigan State University > > blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability > -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for Sonata font Date: 7 Mar 1997 16:12:24 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm248-21.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fpep8$me4$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> Cc: schumach@uni2a.unige.ch In <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> Jorg Schumacher wrote: > Well, I guess the subject says it all. > Thanks for responding to > > schumach@uni2a.unige.ch > > Jorg Schumacher > Could you post the info here? I would like to know more about it too. Thanks, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PEANUTS CDROM ARCHIVE Date: 7 Mar 1997 16:19:55 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm248-21.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fpf7b$me4$3@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> <E6M88D.7ou@onevision.de> Cc: hans@onevision.de In <E6M88D.7ou@onevision.de> Hans Stoeger wrote: > In article <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> cfwood@vcn.bc.ca (Colin Wood) > writes: > > I also have emailed for information on ordering the cdrom and have also > > got no reply. Whats up with these guys? > > > I guess you guys forget the nice guys at peanuts do this in their spare > time. And maybe there are just to much orders right now. > You would prefer one of them sitting around just sending out emails saing > sorry for the delay we are busy? > The vacation unix utility would do the job. Or do they have some kind of an automated reply message? Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: GNU gcc & g77 FORTRAN, OpenStep 4.1 and NeXT Inc. Date: 7 Mar 1997 20:35:50 GMT Organization: Instituto Canario de Investigaciones Agrarias -ICIA Message-ID: <5fpu76$ro6@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> References: <5fo315$8ss@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> <5fo8vv$4o8@usenet.rpi.edu> Cc: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Garance, In <5fo8vv$4o8@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn wrote: > >[...] The problem is not that Apple is too busy to provide you with > support for free software, the problem is that you have no other > good options for fortran on OpenStep. > > I understand that this reply (my reply) is not very helpful either, > and I'm sympathetic to that. I recently had some people ask me > about NeXTSTEP, who ended up going somewhere else due to the lack > of a good fortran compiler... I am glad to see that my message got through and my point is made. > I imagine that ask_next probably understands that quite well. I'd > say your reply is much more stupid and obnoxious than theirs, > because you are lecturing them on something that *you* do not seem > to understand. Thanks for the lecture ; - ) >[...] I do think that the reply you got from > ask_next was perfectly reasonable, that your reply to them was not, > and I felt I should say so. Good for you! : - ) Now, I apologize for what you found not reasonable, but again sometimes you need to resort to some noise to be heard. I hope NeXT (Apple) got the message!. Best regards, Rafa -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dr. Rafael Munoz-Carpena, Researcher, Soil & Water Department | | INSTITUTO CANARIO DE INVESTIGACIONES AGRARIAS - ICIA | | Apdo. 60 - Laguna, 38200 Tenerife (Spain) | |Tno:+34-22-476343;Fax:+34-22-476303;e-mail:carpena@icia.rcanaria.es| +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: web applications Date: 7 Mar 1997 21:33:00 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <5fq1ic$lti$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> References: <jlimpert-0603972002060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> In article <jlimpert-0603972002060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> writes: > Help. > > Where do I get shareware web applications for > > email > > http > > ftp > > etc. > > newsreader. > > thanks. Some these are available under http:/www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1470.htmld/1470.html#worldwideweb fornextstep Narendra. PS. The problem I have in downloading PPP 2.3 is that file is more than 1.4 Mb and I do not have a way of downloading from a working Omniweb on Next. I may try downloading through win 95 ftp as a binary and see if it works!
From: chris@polaris.scicntr.ortn.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeuroSolutions Date: 7 Mar 1997 22:55:59 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fq6dv$qgp@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> The developer of this incredible neural network software no longer supports the original NeXT version. I am looking to buy an existing license, or trade for one from software that I own. Interested parties, please e-mail. Thanks in advance -- CB
From: cello@virgil.harvard.edu (Sean Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software for reading MusicDATs? Date: 7 Mar 1997 22:52:25 GMT Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Message-ID: <5fq679$dov$1@news.fas.harvard.edu> References: <Pine.SOL.3.94.970227111925.26677A-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> <5f43hh$5fk@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> <Pine.SOL.3.94.970227165446.13907A-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> Bald Herreman (bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be) wrote: : On 27 Feb 1997, Eberhard Wolff wrote: : > Bald Herreman (bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be) wrote: : > : Hi does anyone of the existance of an application for reading music dats : > : on a datstreamer (wangdat 3600, in my case) and saving the titles as .snd : > : files on the hard disk... : > : Would it be possible to do this from the coaxial/electrical : (or optical) digital output of a audio dat machine (preferably to a next, : 4.1 openstep computer, if not to windows). I have to create a CDimage with : sound examples accompanying a forthcoming book publication. : thanks, : bald You can do it with this new driver Tomas Hurka has written for the AdB Digital Multiwav Pro and Pro-18 cards. We're just finishing up beta testing of the driver, which is working nicely on both the Pro and the Pro 18 cards. They will allow you to transfer digitally from DAT to Hard Disk and make .snd files to burn to a CD. You can see about the Multiwav Card at http://www.adbdigital.com We'll be officially be releasing the driver in about 2 weeks. Stay tuned. Sean Varah Harvard Computer Music Center -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sean Varah Harvard Computer Music Center cello@mario.harvard.edu, http://www-mario.harvard.edu NeXTMail Welcome - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Real Audio <-> .snd ? Message-ID: <1997Mar7.173012.95359@cc.usu.edu> From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 7 Mar 97 17:30:12 MDT Distribution: world Are there any tools to convert a Real Audio file (or stream) to something that can be played on NEXT/OPENSTEP? Any information that might be useful would be appreciated. TIA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: help me with ppp References: <jlimpert-0503971833060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <3320de27.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 8 Mar 97 03:33:59 GMT jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) wrote: >i have nextstep 3.3 for intel and a pc w/ 28.8 modem. > >how do I get a ppp connection to the internet established?? > >any help would be appreciated. > >jlimpert@pathfinder.com For NS 3.3 check out http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ for a good PPP software package. NS 3.3 did not come with PPP so you won't find it in the documentation. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071902.OAA05626@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 6eee4c64da2f2828101faa2916fa6af3 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 14:02:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Mail.app: Reply-in-same-format - NeXTMail - and keep fonts, etc? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 6eee4c64da2f2828101faa2916fa6af3 - Responding To: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Original Date: 7 Mar 1997 04:37:42 GMT Message-ID: 6eee4c64da2f2828101faa2916fa6af3 - > Under preferences, check the "Compose" panel and turn on "Reply in > the same format". I forget if this is one of those funky options > that you have to quit and restart Mail.app for it to take effect. > (I wouldn't think so...). > > If that's not working for some reason, you mainly need to make sure > that your compose window is in NeXTmail format before you click on > the "Forward" button to copy the original message. I have the dwrite setup (Garance, how could you think such things about me?! ;-) but the problem is that when I hit reply and the text is inserted into the Compose window (due to EnhanceMail I believe), it is all ASCII. I was wondering if there is a way to put the ">" quoting in without losing the RTF text of a NeXTMail message. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071853.NAA05466@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 35d222a6ec18f276b9727359ca9a4b0e - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:53:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Bugs with Lynx on NeXT Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 35d222a6ec18f276b9727359ca9a4b0e - Responding To: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) Original Date: 6 Mar 1997 19:58:44 GMT Message-ID: 35d222a6ec18f276b9727359ca9a4b0e - > I have a problem that makes using Lynx rather difficult. I believe > it only appeared when I upgraded in 1996 to v. 2.6 from an unknown > earlier version. What happens is that the page sifts up a line or > two, or sometimes much more, by which time it is quite unreadable. I use lynx, 2.6 on my NeXTStation running 3.3. I checked out the main lynx page and 'http://www.yahoo.com/text/headlines/tech/' and neither one of them seemed to have any display problems. I am using Stuart and zsh.... not sure if that matters... I've also got what I think is a newer VT100 entry: d0|vt100|vt100-am|vt100am|dec vt100:\ :cr=^M:nl=^J:bl=^G:ta=^I:\ :do=^J:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:sf=2*\ED:\ :le=^H:bs:am:cm=5\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=2\E[C:up=2\E[A:\ :ce=3\E[K:cd=50\E[J:so=2\E[7m:se=2\E[m:us=2\E[4m:ue=2\E[m:\ :md=2\E[1m:mr=2\E[7m:mb=2\E[5m:me=2\E[m:is=\E[1;24r\E[24;1H:\ :ct=2\E[3g:st=2\EH:\ :rf=/usr/lib/tabset/vt100:\ :rs=\E>\E[?3l\E[?4l\E[?5l\E[?7h\E[?8h:ks=\E[?1h:ke=\E[?1l:\ :ku=\EOA:kd=\EOB:kr=\EOC:kl=\EOD:kb=^H:\ :ho=\E[H:k1=\EOP:k2=\EOQ:k3=\EOR:k4=\EOS:pt:sr=2*\EM:vt#3:xn:\ :sc=\E7:rc=\E8:cs=\E[%i%d;%dr:\ :it#8:xo: which you might try. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071844.NAA05244@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: c554d97af54a9e3fd92a47f061cfbcd7 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:44:34 -0500 Subject: Re: web applications Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: c554d97af54a9e3fd92a47f061cfbcd7 - Responding To: jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) Original Date: 6 Mar 1997 23:58:08 GMT > Help. > Where do I get shareware web applications for > > email none, use /NextApps/Mail.app > http free for one-user (choose your arch): ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.H.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.I.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.N.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.NIHS.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.S.tar.gz > ftp ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ftp/ncftp.2.4.2.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ftp/ncftp.2.4.2.README OR ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ftp/Yftp.0.9653.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ftp/Yftp.0.9653.README > newsreader. there are numerous files at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/news/ You might take a look at my web page, where I talk about a lot of these things: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 8 Mar 1997 02:32:42 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> NS3.3p1 Okay, no more external_native.h problems, but many undefined symbols during the linking of the kaffe executable, although the library required was made and appears to have the function within. If you've made kaffe 0.8.2 under NS3.3p1, please reveal how you did it, and what you did to the config/Makefiles. Or, if you'd like to see my compilation log, you're welcome to it. In the meantime, I'm going back to FreeBSD, where I have something that works. :-) -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
From: overeem.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (David Overeem) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SENDMAIL + user database + NeXT Date: 8 Mar 1997 11:37:55 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5frj2j$i3l$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Hello folks. I just installed sendmail 8.8.5 on my NeXT (running NS3.3dev) and I would like to use the user database option. All is okay except that NeXT does not have the "makemap" utility that the documentation calls for in order to create the ".db" file. It is supposed to be a btree db file. Anyone have an executable of this or perhaps knows how to do it a different way? Dave overeem.1@osu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071805.NAA04842@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 1090bb10df9c047c45d56d274b3e3b26 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:05:09 -0500 Subject: Re: WP 1.01 extended characters -- problem Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 1090bb10df9c047c45d56d274b3e3b26 - Responding To: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Original Date: 5 Mar 1997 15:49:23 GMT Message-ID: 1090bb10df9c047c45d56d274b3e3b26 - > WordPerfect installs in TWO passes: first for an Apps > location, and then for a Library location. Ah, right, I remembered the /LocalLibrary/ stuff but forgot the font stuff > Extended characters are provided by a special set of PostScript > fonts (which by the way look LOUSY on screen, because they didn't > provide optimized bitmaps for screen resolutions). "lousy" is a rather large understandment. They printout OK, but they look like crayon drawings on the screen, or a bad felt-tip pen. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071802.NAA04802@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: d86cd81450012ea05dc8b91f94f56103 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:01:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Where is Big Green CD? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: d86cd81450012ea05dc8b91f94f56103 - Responding To: gh@smart.net Original Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 10:04:08 -0500 Message-ID: d86cd81450012ea05dc8b91f94f56103 - > Can someone point me to the Big Green CD and any > other shareware for OPENSTEP. There isn't much shareware/freeware for OpenStep yet, but there are several CD packages available. I can tell you from personal experience that the Big Green CD and Nebula are both excellent sets of recent apps and info. You can find information on both of those CDs (plus all the others currently available for NeXTStep) at my NeXT page: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071814.NAA04897@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 9ca704c04ae47e023a190f258770d2a1 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:14:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Help with modem setup Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 9ca704c04ae47e023a190f258770d2a1 - Responding To: clafey@buncombe.main.nc.us (Cicada La Fey) Original Date: 5 Mar 1997 16:03:49 GMT Message-ID: 9ca704c04ae47e023a190f258770d2a1 - > I tried using tip on with my NeXTStation with simaler results. > I did not find how to fix the problem, but have a solution, > that was to use kermit. I found kermit to work fine and I am > using it at this moment. Version 6.0 of kermit is now out, and compiled for NeXT, Intel and Sparc (I couldn't get HP to work.... if someone else does, please let me know) The files compiled quite easily (for single-arch, and then were combined to make NeXT-Intel and NeXT-Sparc versions available) You can find them here: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60ubin.html FYI - For those who may not know: kermit is a free, self-supported program. What does that mean? Shareware, but it is a little different because you don't pay for kermit, you pay for something else (say, a complete manual). If you buy the manual, etc from Columbia, you are contributing to the cost of maintaining the program. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071838.NAA05202@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 360626dd42af662376308892bf711bb8 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:38:34 -0500 Subject: Re: Printer software modification Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 360626dd42af662376308892bf711bb8 - Responding To: schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) Original Date: 6 Mar 1997 21:54:34 GMT Message-ID: 360626dd42af662376308892bf711bb8 - > I read some time ago on this panel about a software modification > that allows to start up the black printer on black hardware only at > the time you actually need it -- instead of having it on at the > beginning of every session. Did anybody keep the relevant posting? There are 2 daemons which do this, one called 'npoffd' and the other called something like 'nppowerd'.... one of these days I'll package them up and put them on PEAK... (they are available now via email and HTTP) I use npoffd without any problem. The printer is turned on at the boot time and then shuts down. It turns itself on magically when needed (the first page will be a little delayed while the printer warms up) and turns off X minutes later (whatever you tell X to be). My mailserver includes these 5 files: npoffd.README npoffd.gz npoffd.c nppowerd.c.gz nppowerd.gz The middle one is the precompiled binary. If you send me a message with the SUBJECT send-mime npoffd.gz you will get the binary sent back magically as a MIME attachment. (NOTE: don't put commands in the BODY of the message! You must use the right SUBJECT line) You can get the other two files the same way, just replace the name, or get them via the web, jump to 'mailserver files' from my NeXT page http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ or for the impatient who don't want to see my lovely page ;-) http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/ For those who care, the md5 stamp for the above files: 2d4fe3d4594483675c17ca870e65bcdd npoffd.c.gz b80e4fca9907a750d81c3deb5ce609d4 npoffd.gz f8aeef621d2bafaa8f58c5045a335fe9 nppowerd.c.gz 8ac054e9a4303ed084d2663153371010 nppowerd.gz TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for Sonata font Date: 8 Mar 1997 03:11:06 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5fqlca$748@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> <5fpep8$me4$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <5fpg06$rh2@tribune.usask.ca> Cc: eric@skatter.USask.Ca In <5fpg06$rh2@tribune.usask.ca> eric@skatter.USask.Ca wrote: > In <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> Jorg Schumacher wrote: > > Well, I guess the subject says it all. > > Thanks for responding to > > > > schumach@uni2a.unige.ch > > > > Jorg Schumacher > > I ordered it from Adobe. The biggest problem is that you can't just buy a > font any more. You have to get a CD-ROM with a zillion fonts on it and then > unlock the ones you want (and pay for). Of course there's no software for > NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP to do this. I unlocked the fonts on a Solaris machine here > and then copied the font files to my NeXTstation. > I ordered and got just the Sonata font from Adobe. Here's the contact: On Sat, 08 Feb 1997, Kelly Tweddell <ktweddel@Adobe.COM> wrote: > Kelly Tweddell <ktweddel@Adobe.COM> > Subject: Sonata Pricing > > The price on the Adobe Sonata is $25.99 and we do have it in stock. > If you have any other questions you can call us at 1-800-661-9410. > > Thanks > Kelly Tweddell > Image Club Graphics > Customer Service They said to order the Mac version. It took a few steps: take Adobe floppy and copy font to Mac HD. Copy font to Mac floppy. Put Mac floppy on NEXTSTEP machine. Download FontConvert.app from the Web. Use it on the font file on the Mac disk.=> NeXT version. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: teb@eng.cam.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: multiple desktops Date: 8 Mar 1997 17:06:41 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5fs6b1$qvn@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Hi! Is anybody aware of a software to have multiple desktops, as this is possible on many platforms such as Linux, Irix etc. Thanks, Thomas reply-to: teb@eng.cam.ac.uk
From: jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP: Converting Fonts From Date: 5 Mar 1997 22:40:51 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <5fkspj$1te@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <331B6B67.DE4@arch.buffalo.edu> In article <331B6B67.DE4@arch.buffalo.edu>, <wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu> wrote: >Hello: > >How can I convert a Font from a NeXT to something >useable by Windows NT? You have to do three things: 1) NeXT fonts (*.font) are actually directories -- which you have to open (using "open as directory" from the file menu) to get at the actual font files -- fontname.afm and fontname.pfa . 2) You have to convert these files to forms usable by Windows (and Adobe ATM). Now, I don't know how NT (or 95, for that matter) compare in this regard to Windows 3.1. The latter is all I know about. For 3.1, you must convert the fontname.pfa ("ascii") file, which contains the actual font outlines (the letter shapes) into a different ("binary") format which is fontname.pfb ; and, likewise, you have to convert the ascii font-metric file, fontname.afm , into a binary format font-metric file, fontname.pfm . There are programs around that will do these conversions. I have appended to this post, the source code (in C) that will perform the first conversion (at least, for well designed .pfa files). It compiles fine on a NeXT; but it's pretty simple, and should work on anything. There are also programs that will perform the other conversion, but they are inherently unreliable, except for simple situations. The problem is that Windows 3.1 imposes stupid restrictions on font families (they can include ONLY regular, bold, italic, and bolditalic variations). So, if you have font families that include more than 4 -- light, semibold, or whatever -- you have to subdivide them into multiple font families, and then make do with the four allowed variations in each. These changes are indicated in the .pfm files -- but no conversion program can handle this. On the other hand, .pfm files can usually be obtained from font manufacturers for free (they're unencrypted on the Adobe TOC CD, for instance). So, if you can, it's best just to use these, and not try to convert the .afm files. 3) For Windows 3.1, anyway, you have to rename these files so that they have at most eight characters in their filenames. (Indeed, in some cases, it's best if they have exactly eight characters in their filenames.) There are standard abbreviated Windows names for commercial fonts. But, it doesn't matter what you name it, so long as it's different from the name of each other font on your system, and the .pfb and .pfm files have the same filename. Source coce follows: ========================================================================= /* Quick and dirty C program to convert Adobe type-1 font-outline files in .pfa (ASCII) format, as used on Unix systems, to .pfb (binary) format, as used on Windows and OS/2 systems. Three things have to be done in the conversion: 1. The file must be divided into segments, and a header added to each. (These headers will be explained below.) 2. One of the segments -- the encrypted character outlines themselves -- must be converted from hexadecimal representation to binary. 3. $0A (= LF) newline characters must be replaced by $0D (= CR) newline characters. The segment headers are each six bytes (except the last, which needs only the first two bytes). The first byte of every segment header is always $80. The second byte is $01, $02, or $03, encoding what sort of data is in the segment. $01 indicates ASCII data; $02 indicates binary data; and $03 indicates "no more data" -- i.e., end of file. The remaining four bytes of the header are a long integer, least significant byte first, specifying the number of data bytes in the segment (not including the header). The standard arrangement for a type-1 outline file (which is taken for granted here) is as follows: -- It begins with some general information about the font, like the font name, copyright data, whether it's italic, the font bounding box, and so on. This information is in human-readable ASCII text, but in a highly regimented format, so that it can be parsed by the computer as well. The first two characters of the first line are always a percent sign, followed by an exclamation point. This portion of the outline file is exactly the same in .pfa and .pfb formats (except for the newline chars). So this becomes an ASCII segment (code $01) in the .pfb file. It ends with the keyword 'eexec', followed by a newline char. -- Immediately following that newline char, there begins a long list of hexadecimal digits, encoding the bytes of the encrypted character outline definitions. These can have arbitrary amounts of whitespace (space, tab, and newline chars) interspersed, but nothing else. To convert to .pfb format, all those whitespace characters must be removed, and the hex codes converted to binary data -- i.e, two hex digits per byte. So, when converted, these bytes will comprise a binary (code $02) segment in the .pfb format file. -- The encrypted portion of the file must be followed by exactly 512 ASCII zero characters (i.e., $30), again with white space interspersed ad lib, and followed by the keyword 'cleartomark' (and maybe another command or two). The zeroes always seem to begin on a new line; so a line full of zeroes signals the end of the encrypted segment. The zeroes are not converted to binary; so they plus the 'cleartomark' keyword (and others, if any) make a second ASCII (code $01) segment in the .pfb file. -- In the .pfb file, that second ASCII segment must itself be followed by another "header" with the code $03, to indicate the end of the file. This program simply scans the input file twice. The first time, it locates the segment boundaries, keeping count of the relevant bytes along the way, so that it knows how long the segments will be. It also does a little checking to make sure that the file looks like a .pfa format type-1 outline file. Then, on the second pass, it makes the conversion, inserting the headers as needed, and writes the .pfb output file, byte by byte. */ #include <stdio.h> #include <ctype.h> #include <string.h> #define MAXLINE 512 #define PARSE_ERR -1 #define LINE__ERR -2 #define FILE__END -3 void promptforfiles(void); void processfile( void ); int parseinfile( void ); void convertfile( void ); int loadline(void); void outline( void ); void outbinary( void ); int hexbin( int c ); void putheader( int typecode, long int len ); int b_line, c_line, last_line; /* important line numbers */ long int a_len, b_len, c_len; /* the three segment lengths */ int llen, hexnum, znum, allhex, allz; /* results from loadline */ char line[MAXLINE +1]; /* input line buffer */ int d_char, d_lnum; /* for diagnostic output only */ char *err_string; char infilename[FILENAME_MAX + 1]; char outfilename[FILENAME_MAX + 1]; FILE *infile, *outfile; void main (int argc, char *argv[]) { int i; printf("\n pfa2pfb -- Postscript type-1 font outline file conversion.\n"); printf(" John Haugeland 1994\n"); printf(" Released, without warranty, into the public domain.\n\n"); if(argc > 1) { for(i = 1; i < argc; i++) { strncpy(infilename, argv[i], FILENAME_MAX); processfile(); } } else { promptforfiles(); } printf("\n pfa2pfb: processing finished.\n\n"); } void promptforfiles(void) { while( 1 == 1 ) { printf("Enter name of a .pfa file to convert (or: ENTER to quit).\n"); scanf("%s", infilename); processfile(); } } void processfile( void ) { int len; printf(" Processing file: %s\n", infilename); if( (len = strlen(infilename)) > FILENAME_MAX - 4 ) { printf(" Filename too long.\n"); return; } strcpy(outfilename, infilename); if( outfilename[len - 1] == 'a' && outfilename[len - 2] == 'f' && outfilename[len - 3] == 'p' && outfilename[len - 4] == '.' ) { outfilename[len - 1] = 'b'; } else { strcat( outfilename, ".pfb" ); } if( (infile = fopen( infilename, "rb" )) == 0 ) { printf(" Unable to open: %s\n", infilename); return; } if( (outfile = fopen(outfilename, "r")) != 0) { printf(" File: %s already exists.\n", outfilename); fclose( outfile ); return; } if( parseinfile() == PARSE_ERR ) { printf(" File does not seem to be type-1 .pfa format.\n"); printf(" %s\n", err_string); printf(" Line = %d; last char = $%x; line length = %d.\n", \ d_lnum, d_char, llen); fclose( infile ); return; } if( (outfile = fopen(outfilename, "wb")) == 0) { printf(" Unable to open: %s\n", outfilename); fclose( infile ); return; } rewind( infile ); convertfile(); printf(" %s written OKAY.\n", outfilename ); fclose( infile ); fclose( outfile ); } int parseinfile( void ) { int lnum = 0; int phase = 1; int z_tot = 0; int lstat = 0; int ctm_flag = 0; a_len = b_len = c_len = 0; while( phase < 4 ) { if( ( lstat = loadline() ) == FILE__END ) { phase = 4; last_line = lnum; continue; } lnum++; d_lnum = lnum; /* for diagnostic output */ if( lstat == LINE__ERR ) { err_string = "Illegal char, file error, or line too long."; return( PARSE_ERR ); } if( lnum == 1 && (line[0] != '%' || line[1] != '!') ) { err_string = "File doesn't begin with: %!"; return( PARSE_ERR ); } if( phase == 1 ) { a_len += llen; if( strstr(line, "eexec") != NULL ) { b_line = lnum + 1; phase = 2; } } else if( phase == 2) { if( allhex != 1 ) { err_string = "Non-hex char in encrypted segment."; return( PARSE_ERR ); } if( allz != 1) { if( hexnum % 2 != 0 ) { err_string = "Odd number of hex digits in line."; return( PARSE_ERR ); } b_len += hexnum/2; } else /* all zeroes = first line c segment */ { z_tot = znum; c_len = llen; c_line = lnum; phase = 3; } } else if( phase == 3 ) { c_len += llen; if( allz == 1 ) z_tot += znum; if( strstr(line, "cleartomark") != NULL ) ctm_flag = 1; } } if( ctm_flag != 1 || z_tot != 512) { err_string = "No cleartomark, or not 512 zeroes."; return( PARSE_ERR ); } return(0); } void convertfile( void ) { int lnum = 1; putheader( 1, a_len ); while( lnum < b_line ) { loadline(); outline(); lnum++; } putheader( 2, b_len ); while( lnum < c_line ) { loadline(); outbinary(); lnum++; } putheader( 1, c_len ); while( lnum <= last_line ) { loadline(); outline(); lnum++; } putheader( 3, 0 ); } int loadline(void) { int c = 0; llen = hexnum = znum = 0; allhex = allz = 1; while( c != 13 ) /* load till newline */ { if( llen >= MAXLINE - 1 ) return(LINE__ERR); c = getc(infile); if( c == EOF && llen == 0 ) return(FILE__END); if( c == EOF && llen != 0 ) c = 13; if( c == 10 ) c = 13; /* convert LF to CR */ if( c == 13 && llen == 0 ) continue; /* skip empty lines */ if( c == 0 ) continue; /* skip null chars */ d_char = c; /* for diagnostic output */ if( !(isprint(c) || isspace(c)) ) /* error or illegal char */ return(LINE__ERR); line[llen++] = (char) c; if( isspace(c) ) continue; if( c == '0' ) znum++; else allz = 0; if( isxdigit(c) ) hexnum++; else allhex = 0; } line[llen] = 0; /* mark end of string */ return(0); } void outline( void ) { int i = 0; char c; while( (c = line[i++]) != 0 ) fputc( c, outfile ); } void outbinary( void ) { int i = 0; char c; int d; int f = 0; while( (c = line[i++]) != 0 ) { if( !isxdigit(c) ) continue; if( f++ == 0 ) d = 16 * hexbin(c); else { f = 0; d += hexbin(c); fputc( d, outfile ); } } } int hexbin( int c ) { if( c >= 96 ) c -= 32; /* ensure upper case */ return( c < 58 ? c - 48 : c - 55 ); } void putheader( int typecode, long int len ) { fputc( 0x80, outfile ); fputc( typecode, outfile ); if( typecode != 3) { fputc( (int) len % 256, outfile ); fputc( (int) (len/256) % 256, outfile ); fputc( (int) (len/65536) % 256, outfile ); fputc( 0, outfile ); } }
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: 8 Mar 1997 21:14:41 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <5fsks1$p45$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5fhs1q$m87@nps.navy.mil> <5fl8hq$tsv@supernews.login.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit tralala@mlink.net wrote: > > FYI, all Lighthouse apps (commercial AND academic) do run on NEXTSTEP as > well as OPENSTEP. (English, French, and German versions are available.) > > André Lalonde Don't you mean that they run on OPENSTEP _for Mach_? I didn't think Lighthouse had actually ported their software to be OpenStep compliant which means they don't run on OPENSTEP for NT or for Solaris. Please clarify. -Chuck
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Landscape -> Portrait bug in TeXview (InstantTex) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:04:47 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Distribution: inet Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970308160144.852A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using InstantTex with the TeXview viewer on NS Intel 3.3. Recently, I've been having a portrait/landscape problem with Latex doing things I've done before. With /special{landscape} to set landscape in my document, my file still comes up as portrait in TeXview. If I print it the file comes out as landscape though. If I take out the landscape command, then TeXview shows landscape, but I get portrait if I print. If I change the Preferences to 11 x 8.5 then it switches back until it recompiles when it switches back again. It appears to be doing the opposite of what it should. I've removed all TeXview preferences using dremove and have tried using other Latex files that worked previously with the same results. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Robert rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <5437857680935@digifix.com> Date: 9 Mar 1997 05:25:33 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <7353857885137@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Newbie question : Hard Disk Space Date: 8 Mar 1997 22:12:53 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5fso95$1jp@ttacs7.ttu.edu> how much hard disk space will i need to install just NS 3.3 User? also, has anyone tried to install NS 3.3 on a Sharp PC 8700 notebook computer? hs
From: Marty Spaulding <martman@net-link.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP !!! Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 21:41:35 -0500 Organization: NetLink Systems, LLC. Message-ID: <3322235F.5B13@net-link.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have developed a webpage which works fine on its own. However many people will access it via another page which utilizes frames. When my page is accessed in this fashion, it gets crammed into a smaller frame and doesn't look too hot. How to I shut off the frames in the linking site ???? HELP ! Please mailto:martman@net-link.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Faxing with Samba Message-ID: <E6ryxw.8nA@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5fk8s3$j6h$1@news.internetmci.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:05:56 GMT In article <5fk8s3$j6h$1@news.internetmci.com> paul@pth.com (Paul Haddad) writes: > Hi, > > Is it possible to fax from a Windows 95/NT machine through SAMBA running > on a NeXT with the HSD fax driver? > The Windows side would need to insert the lines below into the header of the PostScript file and submit them into the print queue of the FAX modem. The equivalent Unix command line would read like: >>>lpr -P<name of the queue> <name of the file> %%NXFaxNotify: YES\ %%NXFaxHires: YES\ %%NXFaxTrim: YES\ %%NXFaxNumber: XXX XXX is the phone number of the designated FAX machine to send to. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 13:41:27 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580000903971341270001@news.tiac.net> References: <5fhs1q$m87@nps.navy.mil> <5fl8hq$tsv@supernews.login.net> <5fsks1$p45$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5fsks1$p45$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com wrote: > Don't you mean that they run on OPENSTEP _for Mach_? I didn't think > Lighthouse had actually ported their software to be OpenStep compliant which > means they don't run on OPENSTEP for NT or for Solaris. Please clarify. I expect you're correct. If you find out otherwise thru a private post, please let us all know. Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 9 Mar 1997 18:42:35 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5fv0ar$pfq@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <E6Kpvu.907@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <3320649D.3DACD31A@konnections.com> In-Reply-To: <3320649D.3DACD31A@konnections.com> On 03/06/97, mike allison wrote: > You're incorrect. I have a '92 vintage NeXTStation with a 040mhz chip > and room for 64MB of memory. This is a common (as I understand) late > version. I can get one for you if you like....(No, Anthony, it won't be > free) > Sorry Mike, NeXT only ever officially released 25 and 33MHz versions of their 040-based hardware... I wonder if that gives a hint? Maybe you have an 68040 chip -- commonly referred to as an 040 -- running at 33MHz..? Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: rangmj@rice.edu (Moon Rang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Graphic Software Date: Sun, 09 Mar 97 23:20:21 GMT Organization: Rice University Message-ID: <5fvgla$7nk$1@joe.rice.edu> Summary: . I'd like to change the brightness, the pixel resolution, and the type of the graphic files ( tiff, eps ). Can anybody recommend which software can be used and from which ftp site it can be downloaded ? Thanks in advance. Rang
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: help me with ppp Date: 6 Mar 1997 16:47:33 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5fmsf5$krd$10@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <jlimpert-0503971833060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) wrote: >i have nextstep 3.3 for intel and a pc w/ 28.8 modem. > >how do I get a ppp connection to the internet established?? Take ppp_2_2.0.4.6.s.tar.gz and GateKeeper.2.0.Beta.6.s.tar.gz (or a newer version) from the archives. It shouldn't be to difficult. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: tim@apple.com (Tim Olson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 10 Mar 1997 03:17:33 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. / Somerset Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[8230] Message-ID: <5fvugd$gni@cerberus.ibmoto.com> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. In article <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> font@MCS.COM (Font) writes: > Okay, no more external_native.h problems, but many undefined symbols > during the linking of the kaffe executable, although the library > required was made and appears to have the function within. If you've > made kaffe 0.8.2 under NS3.3p1, please reveal how you did it, and what > you did to the config/Makefiles. I found that the Makefile for kaffe/kaffe subdirectory seems to be broken (at least under NeXTSTEP). I was able to build it by changing the LIBS= line to have the correct path to the libraries listed, and adding $(LIBS) to the kaffe makefile line (before the existing library entry). However, even though that builds kaffe, and I can run the "HelloWorldApp" demo, I cannot run javac: it dies with an assert in intrp/machine.c about the next instruction pointer being greater than the method bounds in one of the Vector class operations. -- Tim Olson Apple Computer, Inc. (tim@apple.com)
From: "S.FAHIM" <samir@interpac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: QuickCam On Next-Step Date: 10 Mar 1997 10:37:45 GMT Organization: Interpac Message-ID: <01bc2d3e$6f79b240$26564ec2@vanessa> Hello, Is it possible to do some Video Conference on Next-Step for MAch ? Actually I'm using a Quick cam with Win95, I would like to use it with NS 3.3 or Open step 4.1 samir@interpac.be
From: csrfb@sb636.rivm.nl (Francois Bourgeois) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Adding SCSI datadisk accessable by multiple OSes Date: 10 Mar 1997 11:28:27 GMT Organization: RIVM Bilthoven, Netherlands Message-ID: <5g0r8r$fg8@mississippi.rivm.nl> I have a problem configuring a second (2 GB) SCSI disk in my NS 3.3 on Intel machine. It has already an 1 GB SCSI disk with multiple partitions and OS's on it. I want my computer to be able to run NS3.3, DOS and NT (and maybe a fourth later on) and therefor I tried to initialize the second disk as a datadisk, accessable by al these OSes. First I created 4 partitions on the disk with DOS fdisk (and later on with NEXTSTEP fdisk too). After that I wrote a label to the disk with the 'disk' utility because newfs wouldn't make a filesystem. Eventually I made the filesystem with newfs (default parameters). Eventually I was able to mount the filesystem, but after entering an entry in /etc/fstab and rebooting the boottime mount failed AND the label was gone. Only after this, I read the NextAnswers doc# 1533 "Initializing and Partitioning Big Disks". This doc stated that there is a bug in the 3.2 (and 3.3 ?) version of /usr/etc/disk and that one should make an entry in the /etc/disktab. So I followed the recipe in NA doc#1533: 1. low level format (did this with Adaptec SCSI utilities because sdform didn't work; something like REQUEST SENSE failed). This worked. 2. Run /usr/etc/scsimodes to obtain the actual disk parameters. This worked: 512 bytes/sector, IBM DORS-32160 WA6A5U5Z disk, etc. 3. Create an entry in /etc/disktab. I defined 4 partitions with sizes of 800, 500, 500 and 200 MB respectively. Only the first partition with the i-flag (i.e. 'run newsfs on this partition'). I carefully made sure that the sum of the 4 partitions and the frontporch was equal to the number of sectors reported by scsimodes. When running newfs it still reports that about 350 sectors in the last cylinder are unallocated. 4. Write a label to the disk and initialize the disk. Worked well 5. Make an extra entry in /etc/fstab (in my case with /dev/sd2a). Worked well, that is: at boottime NEXTSTEP registers sd2a, sd2b, sd2c and sd2d and mounts sd2a. But when I want to access the disk from DOS (fdisk) it tells me that there are no partitions. So I suspect that the partitions in /etc/distab are something completely different from the fdisk partitions (?). Questions: - Is it possible to configure a disk as datadisk with multiple partitions (different OSses) where each partition is accessable by its own OS ? - Should I use fdisk for this datadisk or for bootable disks only ? On one NS machine I could create partitions on the second disk, but on another NS machine it says 'Bogus information in BIOS' when running fdisk as 'fdisk /dev/rsd1h'. - If I should use fdisk, how can I garantee that the sizes of the fdisk-partitions correspond to the sizes specified in disktab. - How do the partitions mentioned in the /dev/sd... manual page relate to DOS-style partitions of fdisk? - I alwalys thought that the DOS-style partitiontable was in the first sector of the disk. How does this relate to the 'front-porch' of 320 sectors that NA doc#1533 is talking about ? I have tried to understand all the partition related stuff from several doc's in the NEXT website. Maybe you have the idea that I still don't have a good idea of it. Then you are probably right. Who can help! Not only with recipes, but above all to make me understand it. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Francois Bourgeois, postbak 1 | F.Bourgeois@rivm.nl Centre for Substances and Risk assessment (CSR) | MIME is OK Risk Assessment Division | voice ++31 30 2742962 P.O.Box 1, 3720 BA BILTHOVEN, the Netherlands | fax ++31 30 2744401 RIVM - National Institute of Public Health and the Environment
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax software on NeXT Date: 10 Mar 1997 15:35:49 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5g19ol$1q5$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> References: <1997Jan10.191542.2125@gamelan.shnet.org> <5ef2nk$26e@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <5eifsu$6c5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <3314cb74.804374749@ceco> Cc: echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com Check out Olaf Muellers OlafAM, an answering machine/fax machine for NeXTStep. It's working as well for me as NXFax did, with the added bonus of voicemail support. I believe it's at both the Peak and Peanuts FTP sites. It may not support as many modems as NXFax, though. Regards, Alan (alanf@izzy.net) In <3314cb74.804374749@ceco> Eric Chu wrote: > Hi all, > > Look out...newbie alert. > On the subject of faxing and NeXts <snip>
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: X-windows "emulator" Date: 10 Mar 1997 15:40:20 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5g1a14$1q5$2@inet-prime.comshare.com> Greetings ethereal composite mind, I'm looking for an X package for my NeXTStation. I checked Stepwise and didn't find anything... There used to be two commercial packages, but I can't find references to either. The shareware package never worked on my machine for some unknown reason. Thanks in advance, Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net)
From: rao@supermod.egr.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Emacs.app for OS4.0/Intel? Date: 10 Mar 1997 16:40:47 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g1dif$f5f@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> I am running OS4.0 on Intel and as documented before, I cannot compile the latest beta of Emacs.app in this version. (the developer list at Omni site has some helpful hints, but I do not have access to an NS3.3 machine to try the remedy suggested there). Can anybody make a compiled version of Emacs.app available that will run under OS4.0 Intel? Ideally, I would like it to have compiled with --prefix=LocalApps/Emacs.app so that all goodies are inside the Emacs.app folder. Of course I can live with the default path locations as well, where various stuff gets into different places under /usr/local etc. Jagannatha -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Viewing multiple-page tiff files Date: 10 Mar 1997 16:23:31 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5g1ci3$6bu@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5fha77$e9f@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> J. P. McCann <jpmeia@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > I've scanned a multple-page document using MetroScan, and saved it as > a .tiff file. ... > Any way to see all pages using OmniImage, Preview, Tailor, etc? Well, you could always tiffutil -extract <num> the corresponding subpage. Rgds, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: sandmn@interpath.com (Dan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DON'T BUY WinDelete from IMSI Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:52:11 GMT Organization: Interpath Message-ID: <33244a26.8290428@news.interpath.net> As uninstallers go, WinDelete is a suck-ass program which leads you to believe they are in the same league as programs like Remove-It and CleanSweep. But they're not. My advise to those who need a good uninstaller program is to buy Remove-It, CleanSweep, or Un-Installer. DON'T BUY WinDelete !!!!! I have seen the truth, and it makes no sense !
From: aseibert@cybernet-ag.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: tcl7.6 & NEXTSTEP -- anybody? Date: 10 Mar 1997 17:37:54 +0100 Organization: Cybernet AG Sender: aseibert@sol1 Message-ID: <x7d8t7wvml.fsf@sol1> Hi, all! Has anybody managed to compile tcl7.6 under NEXTSTEP without modifying the source code? It's a problem with mkfifo, and the only way I can get tclsh to compile & link is by commenting out a part of the code :-( Anybody? Thanx a lot in advance, Axel -- Axel Seibert | CYBERNET Internet | You are young only once but you Internet & | Dienstleistungen AG | can stay immature indefinitely. Netzwerke | aseibert@cybernet-ag.net |
From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: create image file for bootable CD Date: 10 Mar 1997 18:03:38 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g1idq$scr@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi all, Does any know how to creat image file for a bootable CDROM? We have heard that dd can do such a thing, but what are the parameters? Thanks very much, khanh
From: Mark Trombino <mtrombin@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Please Help! PPP not working after upgrade to 4.1! Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 01:44:07 -0800 Organization: Egg Head Billy Productions Message-ID: <33245811.79A2@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I'm sorry to bother the USENET community about this, but I've read the NeXT-PPP FAQ, searched NeXTAnswers and checkeded archive news, without sucess. I would subscribe to the ppp listserv, but I'm afraid that I won't be able to receive responses, unless they were sent to me directly. I'm hoping that someone out there can at least point me in the right direction. I had ppp/PPPMonitor running on my turbo slab (with NS 3.2), but lost it with the upgrade to 4.1. Since the upgrade, I completely re-installed ppp (I didn't know that it came with 4.1...). Can someone please look at my ppp log, and maybe tell me where I should be looking for errors? Is it in the installation of ppp (hostconfig, iftab, rc.local) or in my scripts? Thank you very much! - Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com Part of my ppp log (didn't want to send all of it): Mar 10 00:33:45 jehu chat[533]: netcom login: -- got it Mar 10 00:33:45 jehu pppd[453]: Serial connection established. Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: Using interface ppp0 Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufa Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic 0x35fb63f9> <pcomp> <accomp>] Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x21c5d06f> <pcomp> <accomp> <auth upap>] Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: (0) Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: (21c5d06f) Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (REJ) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFREJ. Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 <auth upap>] Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 <asyncmap 0x0> <auth chap 05> <magic 0x21c5d06f> <pcomp> <accomp>] Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (0) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (REJ) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (21c5d06f) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFREJ. Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x2 <auth chap 05>] Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x21c5d06f> <pcomp> <accomp>] Mar 10 00:33:49 jehu pppd[453]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic 0x35fb63f9> <pcomp> <accomp>] Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic 0x35fb63f9> <pcomp> <accomp>] Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 35 fb 63 f9] Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0> <compress VJ 0f 01>] Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <bsd v1 10>] Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x4] Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: LCP terminated at peer's request Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x4] Mar 10 00:33:53 jehu pppd[453]: Connection terminated. Mar 10 00:33:54 jehu pppd[453]: Exit.
From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fonts? Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:02:27 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it in the /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? Thanks Geof (BTW: I dont have TFM so unfortunately I cant RTFM!) -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SENDMAIL + user database + NeXT Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:05:12 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5g1m18$3se$2@darla.visi.com> References: <5frj2j$i3l$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> David Overeem <overeem.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote: : Hello folks. I just installed sendmail 8.8.5 on my NeXT (running NS3.3dev) : and I would like to use the user database option. All is okay except that : NeXT does not have the "makemap" utility that the documentation calls for : in order to create the ".db" file. It is supposed to be a btree db file. : Anyone have an executable of this or perhaps knows how to do it a different : way? makemap comes with sendmail. from src, cd ../support. you may need to tweak. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:04:29 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5g1lvt$3se$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> Font <font@MCS.COM> wrote: : Okay, no more external_native.h problems, but many undefined symbols : during the linking of the kaffe executable, although the library : required was made and appears to have the function within. If you've : made kaffe 0.8.2 under NS3.3p1, please reveal how you did it, and what : you did to the config/Makefiles. Or, if you'd like to see my : compilation log, you're welcome to it. In the meantime, I'm going : back to FreeBSD, where I have something that works. :-) Man, I'm always replying to these posts. There's two ways to go about this: 1. add -L../packages/tjwasson.co.uk (or whatever) and -lkaffe_native, -lkaffe_net, and whatever other .a's you find in packages/ to the LIBS line for the kaffe executable, and relink 2. try to use Mach rld functions (problematic) the first one works, but you have to make sure you get the KAFFEFUNC macros and such right (ie, make sure the big table has pointers which match the names of the functions in the package libraries) I've been sidetracked, but I was playing with the m68k JIT and moving it to NS. If anyone knows a really sharp reference on inlining assembly with gcc, let me know. :) -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:08:27 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5g1m7b$3se$3@darla.visi.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <E6Kpvu.907@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <3320649D.3DACD31A@konnections.com> <5fv0ar$pfq@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: : On 03/06/97, mike allison wrote: : > You're incorrect. I have a '92 vintage NeXTStation with a 040mhz chip : > and room for 64MB of memory. This is a common (as I understand) late : > version. I can get one for you if you like....(No, Anthony, it won't be : > free) : NeXT only ever officially released 25 and 33MHz versions of their 040-based : hardware... I wonder if that gives a hint? Maybe you have an 68040 chip -- : commonly referred to as an 040 -- running at 33MHz..? Also, NeXT didn't make any slabs which max out at 64MB AFAIK. Non-turbos go to 32, while turbos go to 128. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Faxing with Samba Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:22:21 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5g1n1d$a72@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <E6ryxw.8nA@nidat.sub.org> In article <E6ryxw.8nA@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: > In article <5fk8s3$j6h$1@news.internetmci.com> paul@pth.com (Paul Haddad) > writes: > > Hi, > > > > Is it possible to fax from a Windows 95/NT machine through SAMBA running > > on a NeXT with the HSD fax driver? > > > The Windows side would need to insert the lines below into the header of > the PostScript file and submit them into the print queue of the FAX modem. > The equivalent Unix command line would read like: > >>>lpr -P<name of the queue> <name of the file> > > %%NXFaxNotify: YES\ > %%NXFaxHires: YES\ > %%NXFaxTrim: YES\ > %%NXFaxNumber: XXX > > XXX is the phone number of the designated FAX machine to send to. This is from the mgetty-1.1.1/frontends/win+samba/README file: This windows fax solution is simple and elegant :) I got it from http://isis.et.uni-magdeburg.de/~horstf It works like this: The windows application prints to \\server\fax via the standard Windows-Networking services. On the "\\server" side, you must run the SAMBA daemon to handle windows file and print services. Samba then runs a small script that connects back to the PC, and makes a popup window come up and ask for the fax number to fax to. After that, "faxspool" is called, and the job is faxed away... (I didn't try this yet, so don't bug me if it doesn't work...!!!) gert Shouldn't be too hard to modify the script to insert the requisite Postscript. -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fonts? Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:23:22 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Mar-97 Fonts? by GEOF ABRUZZI@wilbur.cac. > Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it in the > /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? Put it in /LocalLibrary/Fonts. You should leave the /Next{Admin,Apps,Library} directories as-is. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars A. Stole) Subject: FileMerge not working Message-ID: <E6uJ8L.5L3@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 21:19:33 GMT I'm using NextStep 3.3 on a PentiumPro Intel machine. When trying to use FileMerge, I get 0 diffs between two files regardless of the number of true differences; it otherwise seems to work fine. When using the utility diff directly (rather than opendiff), I get the appropriate changes. It's been almost six months since I last used FileMerge, so I'm having difficulty guessing what I have done to break this program. I have tried it on a similarly configured PPro machine with NS 3.3 and there is no problem. Any ideas on what has happened or how to fix it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
From: GehleSoftware@t-online.de (Carsten Gehle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Date: 5 Mar 1997 19:01:15 GMT Organization: Gehle Software Message-ID: <5fkftr$dvt@news00.btx.dtag.de> References: <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Hi, CDDesigner is a software that allows to write CDRs with NeXTstep. It is easy to use and you can build the CDs via drag n drop. CDDesigner is running on NeXT and Intel and supports writers by Yamaha, HP, Phillips, Kodak and Grundig. For more information meet: http://www.ip.cubenet.de/gehle A free beta is available at: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/cdrom/ Carsten Gehle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: QuickCam On Next-Step References: <01bc2d3e$6f79b240$26564ec2@vanessa> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <3324f9ae.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 11 Mar 97 06:20:30 GMT "S.FAHIM" <samir@interpac.be> wrote: >Is it possible to do some Video Conference on Next-Step for MAch ? >Actually I'm using a Quick cam with Win95, I would like to use it with >NS 3.3 or Open step 4.1 Technically, yes. But I haven't heard that anyone has done it under NS. If you connect to the Quick cam site, you'll find info about developing for Quick cams and a link to an independent developer page that can lead you to many sources. Even some based in BSD. Of course, if your not a programmer, this doesn't help much. Hey, maybe some NS/OS programmer with time will take it on. As I recall there is a serial version for the Mac and a parallel for the Intel boxes. From what I've read the serial would be easier to develop for. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FileMerge not working Date: 11 Mar 1997 06:38:24 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g2ul0$j9o@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <E6uJ8L.5L3@midway.uchicago.edu> lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars A. Stole) wrote: > It's been almost six months since I last used FileMerge, so I'm > having difficulty guessing what I have done to break this program. I believe that FileMerge uses the GNU utilities in /usr/gnu/bin. If these have been removed or even changed, then FileMerge might not work as expected. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: X-windows "emulator" Date: 11 Mar 1997 08:01:40 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5g33h4$ngk@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> References: <5g1a14$1q5$2@inet-prime.comshare.com> In-Reply-To: <5g1a14$1q5$2@inet-prime.comshare.com> Hello Allen: I resell Cub X Windows for Intuitive... feel free to drop me an email at bhi1@ix.netcom.com or phone 303-393-6419 , 303 320 0949 Fax Best regards Rob Blessin President Black Hole Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver, CO 80220 On 03/10/97, alanf@izzy.net wrote: >Greetings ethereal composite mind, > >I'm looking for an X package for my NeXTStation. >I checked Stepwise and didn't find anything... There used to be two >commercial packages, but I can't find references to either. The shareware >package never worked on my machine for some unknown reason. > >Thanks in advance, >Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net) > > -- {\rtf0\ansi{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss Helvetica;} \paperw9840 \paperh8400 \margl120 \margr120 \pard\tx533\tx1067\tx1601\tx2135\tx2668\tx3202\tx3736\tx4270\tx4803\tx5337\f0\b0\i0\ulnone\fs24\fc0\cf0 Best regards: \ \ Rob Blessin\ President\ Black Hole, Incorporated\ 748 Poplar St.\ Denver , CO 80220\ \ 303-393-6419\ 303-320-0949\ \ http://www.blackholeinc.com/\ \ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine\ \ Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993. }
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fonts? Date: 11 Mar 1997 11:48:07 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5g3gpn$mm6$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> Cc: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu In <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Mar-97 Fonts? by GEOF > ABRUZZI@wilbur.cac. > > Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it in the > > /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? > > Put it in /LocalLibrary/Fonts. You should leave the > /Next{Admin,Apps,Library} directories as-is. > And run (in a shell) buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts to make the fonts visible. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: tcl7.6 & NEXTSTEP -- anybody? Date: 10 Mar 97 19:35:00 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar10193500@howard.one.net> References: <x7d8t7wvml.fsf@sol1> In-reply-to: aseibert@cybernet-ag.net's message of 10 Mar 1997 17:37:54 +0100 In article <x7d8t7wvml.fsf@sol1> aseibert@cybernet-ag.net writes: Has anybody managed to compile tcl7.6 under NEXTSTEP without modifying the source code? It's a problem with mkfifo, and the only way I can get tclsh to compile & link is by commenting out a part of the code :-( I don't know if this is what you want, but my home page has a couple links to NeXTSTEP-aware Tcl7.6 source code, and the resulting binaries. I don't recall how I handled the particular problem you mentioned, though. [I mean, do you need mkfifo, or are you just concerned something else might?] Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: QuickCam On Next-Step Date: 11 Mar 1997 02:45:23 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g2h03$obk@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <01bc2d3e$6f79b240$26564ec2@vanessa> "S.FAHIM" <samir@interpac.be> writes: > Is it possible to do some Video Conference on Next-Step for MAch? > Actually I'm using a Quick cam with Win95, I would like to use > it with NS 3.3 or Open step 4.1 My guess is that there is nothing currently written to help you out for NeXTSTEP 3.3 or 4.1. I imagine we'll be seeing support for this in future releases, though! -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: carimati@uli.it (carimati) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I search a program, dll library or OCX for drawing equation Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:05:14 GMT Organization: I.NET - Customers News Server Message-ID: <33248d2c.9718550@news.inet.it> I search a program, dll library or OCX for drawing equation in a Windows device context from a string like "A^3+sqtr(3-sqrt(x))". Please reply via e-mail. Thanks! Shin
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3.3/intel install problem Date: 11 Mar 1997 17:38:16 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5g45a8$nf8$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> greetings etherial composite mind, I've got an Adaptec 2940W... after the drivers are loaded (I've downloaded the version 3.37 Adaptec driver) I get: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ fdisk: Bogus disk information in BIOS. You probably need to check your SCSI or IDE card setup to make sure the BIOS is enabled. If the BIOS is disabled, NEXTSTEP will be unable to get proper disk information. (above message duplicated) /private/etc/rc.cdrom: test: argument expected CDROM boot procedure complete Please wait until its safe to turn off computer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've got a Pentium 133, Triton chipset MB, AMIBIOS 10/10/94 PSI437 V1.7 1996-02-08. I'm using a venerable Seagate ST1480N on SCSI ID #1, a Matshita CD on SCSI ID#4. Previously I had a Conner drive on SCSI ID #0, with the same results. I really, really want to get NEXTSTEP loaded, but I've hit the wall here. I just don't know what else to try. I have no problem loading and running MS-Windows on the same hardware. Any help is vastly appreciated; please cc: email. Regards, Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net)
From: krgue@nps.navy.mil (Kevin R Gue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anti-Microsoft alliance Date: 11 Mar 1997 17:12:31 GMT Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA Message-ID: <5g43pv$gj1@nps.navy.mil> Page B-8 of today's Wall Street Journal announced an alliance among Netscape, Oracle, Sun, and IBM intended to head off Microsoft's march to internet dominance. The article mentions that the four will support two object technologies from Object Management Group, but doesn't give details. Any ideas on what these are, or how Openstep will be affected? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin R. Gue, Ph.D. | krgue@nps.navy.mil Department of Systems Management | Tel: (408) 656-4299 Naval Postgraduate School | Fax: (408) 656-3407 Monterey, CA 93943 | http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~krgue ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: AdageUS <ignite3@silcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Great Internet Software Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:34:34 -0800 Organization: AdageUS Message-ID: <332597AA.4177@silcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AdageUS visit our website at: http://www.adageus.com Internet applications for site analysis, site testing, and database interconnection. Services for web and web site design, management, link configuration control, database integration and custom applications.
From: rdingman@cc.mcafee.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Newbie question : Hard Disk Space Date: 11 Mar 1997 17:21:42 GMT Organization: McAfee Associates, Inc. Message-ID: <5g44b6$2t2@news.mcafee.com> References: <5fso95$1jp@ttacs7.ttu.edu> To install NS3.3(everything in English) it takes about 250MB. ryan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: Fonts? Message-ID: <E6vyoM.n0H@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:50:46 GMT References: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> <5g3gpn$mm6$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> In comp.sys.next.software Frank M. Siegert wrote: > In <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger wrote: > > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Mar-97 Fonts? by GEOF > > ABRUZZI@wilbur.cac. > > > Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it in the > > > /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? > > > > Put it in /LocalLibrary/Fonts. You should leave the > > /Next{Admin,Apps,Library} directories as-is. > > > > And run (in a shell) > > buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts > > to make the fonts visible. <RANT> Am I the only who is always extremely annoyed by this extra step? Its even worse when you have to explain this to Joe "Terminal? What's That?" User who heroically figured out that he should put his custom fonts in ~/Library/Fonts but then wants to know why they don't show up in Edit? I still can't believe that NeXT has been going so long without a simple FontManager.app which will install the new font in the proper location and rebuild the AFM directory with just a double-click and a confirm dialog. The application to do this would be TRIVIAL to write. In fact, FontConverter.app is a nice third-party utility which in addition to its prime purpose (ie. converting fonts from other platforms into a format that NeXT can use) does this. I'd bet the installation part took the guy less than an hour to code. One could knock off a simple freeware application to accomplish this, but then Joe User would have to go out on the Net and find the thing. IT SHOULD JUST BE PART OF THE SHIPPED OPERATING SYSTEM! </RANT> I feel much better now. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine."
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fonts? Date: 11 Mar 1997 18:38:31 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5g48r7$mm$3@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> <5g3gpn$mm6$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <E6vyoM.n0H@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Cc: allan@ali.bc.ca In <E6vyoM.n0H@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Allan Noordvyk wrote: > <RANT> > > Am I the only who is always extremely annoyed by this extra step? > Its even worse when you have to explain this to Joe "Terminal? > What's That?" User who heroically figured out that he should put his > custom fonts in ~/Library/Fonts but then wants to know why they > don't show up in Edit? > > I still can't believe that NeXT has been going so long without a > simple FontManager.app which will install the new font in the proper > location and rebuild the AFM directory with just a double-click > and a confirm dialog. > > The application to do this would be TRIVIAL to write. In fact, > FontConverter.app is a nice third-party utility which in addition > to its prime purpose (ie. converting fonts from other platforms into > a format that NeXT can use) does this. I'd bet the installation > part took the guy less than an hour to code. > > One could knock off a simple freeware application to accomplish > this, but then Joe User would have to go out on the Net and find > the thing. IT SHOULD JUST BE PART OF THE SHIPPED > OPERATING SYSTEM! > > </RANT> > > I feel much better now. > I am the guy who wrote FontConvert.app, and you are right, it was about half an hour work as I remember (the buildafmdir stuff, testing took a bit longer...). -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: luukw@telebyte.nl (Nimrod) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: IPX-emulator Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:12:24 GMT Organization: Telebyte Message-ID: <5g4ati$oeu@rubens.telebyte.nl> Does anyone now a program which I can emulate an IPX-network with, so I can play multiplayergames which require an IPX-network with my null-modem cable? Please respond to luukw@telebyte.nl Thanks in advance, Luuk Willems
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Allegro Common Lisp info needed Date: 11 Mar 1997 20:17:24 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g4ekk$rrd@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Franz Allegro Common Lisp was bundled with NS 1, but unbundled from NS 2. However, those who had licensed NS 1 were licensed to use new versions of ACL, Sybase SQL Server, and Mathematica under NS 2. NeXT shipped these new versions to NS 1 licensees. For Mathematica, the right to use the new version was shipped, but the software had to be obtained from Wolfram. Was the NS 2.0 ACL version sent by NeXT a full release or merely an upgrade of the NS 1 ACL? In other words, can the NS 2.0 ACL be installed as a full release or must NS 1 ACL already exist so that it can be upgraded? -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Date: 11 Mar 1997 21:43:57 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5g4jmt$f57@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <5fkftr$dvt@news00.btx.dtag.de> Cc: GehleSoftware@t-online.de In <5fkftr$dvt@news00.btx.dtag.de> Carsten Gehle wrote: > CDDesigner is running on NeXT and Intel and supports writers by > Yamaha, HP, Phillips, Kodak and Grundig. > > Carsten Gehle > the docs for CDDesigner say that only the adaptec SCSI boards (if I remember right) are supported on intel, any plans for supporting the buslogic board in my object.station? -Rick
From: sanguish@digifix.digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fonts? Date: 11 Mar 1997 22:12:52 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5g4ld4$e0a@news.digifix.com> References: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> <5g3gpn$mm6$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> In-Reply-To: <5g3gpn$mm6$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> On 03/11/97, Frank M. Siegert wrote: >In <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger wrote: >> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Mar-97 Fonts? by GEOF >> ABRUZZI@wilbur.cac. >> > Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it in the >> > /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? >> >> Put it in /LocalLibrary/Fonts. You should leave the >> /Next{Admin,Apps,Library} directories as-is. >> > >And run (in a shell) > >buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts > >to make the fonts visible. > I don't think you need to do this anymore. I'm pretty sure that just copying them into that directory causes Workspace to 'do the right thing'.... -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fonts? Date: 11 Mar 1997 22:50:33 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5g4njp$al9@shelob.afs.com> References: <5g4ld4$e0a@news.digifix.com> Scott Anguish writes > I don't think you need to [run buildafmdir] anymore. I'm pretty > sure that just copying them into that directory causes Workspace to > 'do the right thing'.... That's right. The next time you launch an app and trigger the font panel, you will get a message that says something like 'Integrating new font information, please wait." It's fully automatic. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 11 Mar 1997 23:42:26 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <5g4ql2$6m6@news-central.tiac.net> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5g1lvt$3se$1@darla.visi.com> In-Reply-To: <5g1lvt$3se$1@darla.visi.com> On 03/10/97, David Young wrote: >There's two ways to go about this: >1. add -L../packages/tjwasson.co.uk (or whatever) and -lkaffe_native, > -lkaffe_net, and whatever other .a's you find in packages/ to the > LIBS line for the kaffe executable, and relink >2. try to use Mach rld functions (problematic) So guys anyone of you succeed in making kaffe to use shared libraries under Mach? Any rumors when and whould it be really supported? Well, 0.8.2 look like a quick hack to me. Any ideas when we could expect new version? Regards, Aleksey
From: sandmn@interpath.com (Dan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <33244a26.8290428@news.interpath.net> Control: cancel <33244a26.8290428@news.interpath.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:00:01 GMT Organization: Interpath Message-ID: <3326000e.8679324@news.interpath.net> I have seen the truth, and it makes no sense !
From: Huiyang Yang <yang@focus.berkeley.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: want to read mail in Chinese and Japanese Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:46:19 -0800 Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <3325B68B.41C6@focus.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am using NeXT Electronic Mail Reader to read e-mail. Is it possible to read the mails in Chinese (GB or Big5) or Japanese? and how? Thanks Huiyang
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 12 Mar 1997 03:58:32 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5g59l8$6t2$1@darla.visi.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <3320649D.3DACD31A@konnections.com> <5fv0ar$pfq@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <5g1m7b$3se$3@darla.visi.com> <5g41l0$oku@portal.gmu.edu> Tim <tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu> wrote: : >Also, NeXT didn't make any slabs which max out at 64MB AFAIK. Non-turbos : >go to 32, while turbos go to 128. : Umm, this is definitly NOT correct. I'll offer proof: Part of it is. At least, the part about no boxes which max at 64M. Were I a lawyer, I'd say that I meant "turbo motherboard" and not CPU. ;) : Processor speed: 25 MHz : System type: 4 : Board revision: 0xf ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Aha. : Primary memory available: 64.00 megabytes. So, my turbo ADB cube has the same board revision as your mono slab? That's pretty weird. Processor speed: 33 MHz System type: 8 Board revision: 0xf Primary memory available: 64.00 megabytes. : I can cram more ram in it if I wanted to as far as I know. : This board is a "turbo style" board, with a non-turbo CPU in it... : The ram I have in it is 2 32M parity simms. This isn't the case with most of the non-turbo machines I've encountered, though, and I'd guess with a majority of the nonturbo systems out there. : One thing I'd _love_ to see at some point hardware wise was a : motherboard running a really-fast PPC or Sparc CPU, (or hell, even : an Intel) that would "drop in" black cases. I'm not going to hold : my breath, and my 040 hw serves well for most things still today, : but one can allways dream ;) That'd be nice. I had kicked around the idea of stuffing my old P60 logic board in a dead cube case, but the whole thing seemed too blasphemous. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 11 Mar 1997 16:35:44 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs---------@gravity.science.gmu.edu (remove dashs to reply) Message-ID: <5g41l0$oku@portal.gmu.edu> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <3320649D.3DACD31A@konnections.com> <5fv0ar$pfq@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <5g1m7b$3se$3@darla.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <5g1m7b$3se$3@darla.visi.com>, David Young <dwy@ace.net> wrote: >mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: >: On 03/06/97, mike allison wrote: >: > You're incorrect. I have a '92 vintage NeXTStation with a 040mhz chip >: > and room for 64MB of memory. This is a common (as I understand) late >: > version. I can get one for you if you like....(No, Anthony, it won't be >: > free) > >: NeXT only ever officially released 25 and 33MHz versions of their 040-based >: hardware... I wonder if that gives a hint? Maybe you have an 68040 chip -- >: commonly referred to as an 040 -- running at 33MHz..? > >Also, NeXT didn't make any slabs which max out at 64MB AFAIK. Non-turbos >go to 32, while turbos go to 128. Umm, this is definitly NOT correct. I'll offer proof: Mach kernel version: NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon May 22 17:56:06 PDT 1995; root(rcbuilder):mk-171.12.obj~11/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K Kernel configured for a single processor only. 1 processor is physically available. Processor type: MC680x0 (68040) Processor speed: 25 MHz Processor active: 0 System type: 4 Board revision: 0xf Primary memory available: 64.00 megabytes. Default processor set: 84 tasks, 131 threads, 1 processors Load average: 0.15, Mach factor: 0.97 I can cram more ram in it if I wanted to as far as I know. This board is a "turbo style" board, with a non-turbo CPU in it... The ram I have in it is 2 32M parity simms. From what I understand there are dependancies related to what BIOS you've got as far as how much ram you can use, but I've heard so much conflicting information over the years that I'm not truely sure of what the deal is. CPU wise, I am only aware of 040 25's, 33's, and 88K's coming out of NeXT. I heard a pretty serious rumor that when NeXT spun off hardware and it became Firepower, that they had the OS running on PPC boxes, but that it was never released or anything like that. One thing I'd _love_ to see at some point hardware wise was a motherboard running a really-fast PPC or Sparc CPU, (or hell, even an Intel) that would "drop in" black cases. I'm not going to hold my breath, and my 040 hw serves well for most things still today, but one can allways dream ;) Tim -- ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail, MIME) Tim Scanlon tfs@epic.org (PGP key aval.) crypto is good Play Mystic: mystic.magik.net 3000
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Allegro Common Lisp info needed Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:04:02 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001203970004020001@news.tiac.net> References: <5g4ekk$rrd@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5g4ekk$rrd@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) wrote: > Was the NS 2.0 ACL version sent by NeXT a full release or merely an > upgrade of the NS 1 ACL? In other words, can the NS 2.0 ACL be installed as > a full release or must NS 1 ACL already exist so that it can be upgraded? Seems to be a full release of Version 3.1. Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: Don McKinnon <Don.McKinnon@mail.house.gov> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I need software support help in DC Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:38:32 -0500 Organization: U.S. House of Representatives Message-ID: <3326B1D8.6D96@mail.house.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have no NeXT skills. I have a slab I've been using since 1990 and I need to hire someone to fix a few bugs that have accumulated: I can connect to Novell server, but I can't get printer connectivity. My memory seems to run out and crash everything. I need to have someone help me set up my modem. If its possible, I'd like to be able to connect to an NT server and to determine if I could run NeXT and Windows 95 from the same machine. If you or someone you know could help, please let me know what your hourly rate would be. Thanks and regards, Don McKinnon 202 225 2770
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: X-windows "emulator" Date: 12 Mar 1997 12:29:05 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5g67ih$nqj$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5g1a14$1q5$2@inet-prime.comshare.com> alanf@izzy.net wrote: >I'm looking for an X package for my NeXTStation. >I checked Stepwise and didn't find anything... There used to be two >commercial packages, but I can't find references to either. The shareware >package never worked on my machine for some unknown reason. I answered on nearly the same question exactly one week ago: look for <5fjvp4$obk$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> with the subject "Re: How does one display X-Windows on a NeXT?" Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Printer software modification Date: 12 Mar 1997 12:16:10 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5g66qa$lcc$3@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <schumach-0603972256170001@129.194.16.71> schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) wrote: >I read some time ago on this panel about a software modification that >allows to start up the black printer on black hardware only at the time >you actually need it -- instead of having it on at the beginning of every >session. Did anybody keep the relevant posting? You should try this one. It works perfectly for me. -=-=- /* * nppowerd.c rjesse 19 oct 92 * * This daemon turns off a NeXT 400 dpi printer (/dev/np0) * that has been idle for more than "interval" minutes. * * Usage: nppowerd [interval minutes] */ #define INTERVAL (60*60) /* 60 minute default */ #include <stdio.h> #include <bsd/sys/types.h> #include <mach/boolean.h> #include <bsd/sys/ioctl.h> #include <bsd/sys/file.h> #include <bsd/sys/stat.h> #include <bsd/dev/m68k/npio.h> char printer[] = "/dev/np0"; time_t pmtime() { struct stat pstat; if (stat(printer, &pstat) < 0) { fputs("nppowerd: ", stderr); perror(printer); exit(1); } return pstat.st_mtime; } turnpoff() { struct npop op; register pfd; extern errno; errno = 0; if ((pfd=open(printer, O_WRONLY, 0)) < 0) return errno; op.np_op = NPSETPOWER; op.np_power = 0; ioctl(pfd, NPIOCPOP, &op); close(pfd); return errno; } main(ac, av) int ac; char **av; { time_t offtime, mtime, idle; register interval = INTERVAL; if (ac > 2) { fputs("Usage: nppowerd [minutes]\n", stderr); return 1; } switch (fork()) { default: return 0; case -1: return 1; case 0: ; /* child */ } if (ac > 1) interval = atoi(av[1]) * 60; if (interval<60 || interval>(24*60*60) ) interval = INTERVAL; /* * it seems (see NP(4)) to be impossible to test whether the * printer is on or off without first turning it on - opening * the device, even without O_WRONLY, turns it on. so we assume * that upon nppowerd invocation (probably from /etc/rc) that * the printer is on (it gets turned on during the boot sequence). */ offtime = 0; mtime = pmtime(); while (1) { if (mtime != offtime) { /* there has been some printer activity */ while ((idle = time() - mtime) < interval) { sleep(interval-idle+1); mtime = pmtime(); } if (turnpoff() == 0) offtime = mtime = pmtime(); } sleep(interval); mtime = pmtime(); } NOTREACHED } ----- Compile this and call it from rc.local with a few seconds of delay (the printer demons must be up and running). The following works fine for me. ----- # (echo -n 'local daemons:') >/dev/console # # Run your own commands here # # (echo '.') >/dev/console domainname nidat.sub.org su news -c '/usr/lib/newsbin/newsboot' sleep 10; /usr/local/etc/nppowerd 30 /usr/local/etc/setmd -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 -=-=- -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fonts? Date: 12 Mar 1997 11:58:30 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5g65p6$j3r@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> <5g3gpn$mm6$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <E6vyoM.n0H@gateway.ali.bc.ca> allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) wrote: > In comp.sys.next.software Frank M. Siegert wrote: > > And run (in a shell) > > > > buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts > > > > to make the fonts visible. > > <RANT> > > Am I the only who is always extremely annoyed by this extra step? > Its even worse when you have to explain this to Joe "Terminal? > What's That?" User who heroically figured out that he should put > his custom fonts in ~/Library/Fonts but then wants to know why > they don't show up in Edit? > > I still can't believe that NeXT has been going so long without > a simple FontManager.app which will install the new font in the > proper location and rebuild the AFM directory with just a > double-click and a confirm dialog. Back when you could buy fonts for NeXTSTEP, you could get them from Adobe. With them you got a program that did the building for you, as I remember it. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6xtGu.o9L@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:53:18 GMT References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <5fv0ar$pfq@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <5g1m7b$3se$3@darla.visi.com> <5g41l0$oku@portal.gmu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5g41l0$oku@portal.gmu.edu>, Tim <tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu> wrote: >Mach kernel version: > NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon May 22 17:56:06 PDT 1995; root(rcbuilder):mk-171.12.obj~11/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K > >Kernel configured for a single processor only. >1 processor is physically available. >Processor type: MC680x0 (68040) >Processor speed: 25 MHz ... >I can cram more ram in it if I wanted to as far as I know. >This board is a "turbo style" board, with a non-turbo CPU in it... >The ram I have in it is 2 32M parity simms. > Yeah, there are a bunch of these "Turboid" machines around. Except for the speed they work exactly like Turbo machines (ADB suppoer and all, assuming you have the correct ROM version). >From what I understand there are dependancies related to what BIOS >you've got as far as how much ram you can use, but I've heard so >much conflicting information over the years that I'm not truely >sure of what the deal is. > Ack--I hate the term BIOS used with NeXT hardware. It's not a BIOS--it doesn't help the OS do much of anything. It gives you the console program and lets you boot, and that's about it. Anyway, I'm not sure about the relation between ROM version and maximum RAM. This is the first I've heard of it, actually. >CPU wise, I am only aware of 040 25's, 33's, and 88K's coming out >of NeXT. Well, I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that the 88Ks "came out" of NeXT. Maybe in someone's knapsack. ;) Also, don't forget the i860 on the NeXTdimension. >I heard a pretty serious rumor that when NeXT spun off >hardware and it became Firepower, that they had the OS running >on PPC boxes, but that it was never released or anything like that. > There are several NeXT people who have said that they saw it running. >One thing I'd _love_ to see at some point hardware wise was a >motherboard running a really-fast PPC or Sparc CPU, (or hell, even >an Intel) that would "drop in" black cases. That would be pretty nifty, yeah. :) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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From: student <student@law.uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: IPX-emulator Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:04:57 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois College of Law Message-ID: <33270C69.60A8@law.uiuc.edu> References: <5g4ati$oeu@rubens.telebyte.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nimrod wrote: > > Does anyone now a program which I can emulate an IPX-network with, so > I can play multiplayergames which require an IPX-network with my > null-modem cable? > > Please respond to luukw@telebyte.nl > > Thanks in advance, > > Luuk Willems I know of two that work under Linux and should compile under any unix based os. The first is still in alpha I believe and is called LinWare. Try: sunsite at /pub/system/network/daemons/lwared-0.95.tar.gz The other is called the mars netware emulator. I have gotten it to work under Linux also, and should compile under NeXT. Look at the Linux ipx howto for an address. This one is farther along in the development than LinWare and probably is a better choice. If you need help finding this, email me. hope this helps Brandon Cue bcue@uiuc.edu
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From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 12 Mar 1997 22:27:05 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5g7ajp$bpb@news.next.com> References: <5g59l8$6t2$1@darla.visi.com> In article <5g59l8$6t2$1@darla.visi.com> David Young <dwy@ace.net> writes: > : Processor speed: 25 MHz > : System type: 4 > : Board revision: 0xf > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Aha. > > : Primary memory available: 64.00 megabytes. > > So, my turbo ADB cube has the same board revision as your mono slab? > That's pretty weird. > > Processor speed: 33 MHz > System type: 8 > Board revision: 0xf > Primary memory available: 64.00 megabytes. Board revisions and system type have to be taken together to identify a particular board. Revisions apply to a specific system type. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. "May you live in interesting times." - Old Chinese curse
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 17:07:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple's OS Man Is On The Spot; Software Writers Want NeXt-Based System To Do The Near-Impossible 03/12/97 San Francisco Examiner In an office at Apple Computer Inc., two doors down from the room reserved for Steve Jobs, Avie Tevanian talked about what might be the most challenging technical task in Silicon Valley: building a new operating system for the Macintosh. The 35-year-old programmer spoke to The Examiner last week, as Apple was gearing up to announce the layoffs of perhaps 40 percent of its 13,500-person workforce. "My job is to separate what is interesting, important and valuable from what is interesting and cool but not valuable," said Tevanian, who once turned down Bill Gates to go to work for Jobs. And in Apple's current plight, nothing would be more valuable than if Tevanian could ramrod the creation of a new Mac operating system. Simply put, an operating system (OS) controls the basic functions of a computer. When the OS works, users don't know it's there. But when the OS gets flaky, using a computer can be exercise in aggravation. At the core of Apple's myriad woes is the fact that after 13 years, the Mac OS doesn't seem much better than its chief competitor, the Windows software from Microsoft Corp. To improve the Mac OS relative to Windows, Apple began several years ago to develop a new OS called Copland. Last year, however, Apple Chairman Gil Amelio decided Copland, though cool and interesting, wasn't valuable. So he canceled the project and bought an operating system from Next Inc. Next, based in Redwood City, was the company Steve Jobs founded in 1985, after he was eased out of Apple, which he had co-founded a decade earlier. Now, the indomitable Jobs - whose current credits include creating movies like "Toy Story" at Pixar Inc. - spends a day or so each week as Amelio's "special advisor" at Apple. And Tevanian, who worked for Jobs and used to manage 100 engineers at Next, now directs 10 times that number at Apple. In a 50-minute interview last week, Tevanian displayed the diplomatic skills he will need to juggle several equally critical tasks. In the first place, he must make sure Apple continues improving the current Mac OS. "People may be underestimating the importance of the Mac OS," Tevanian said. "The Mac OS is solving the problems customers have today." At the same time, Tevanian must meld Apple's technology with Next's software to create a new operating system called Rhapsody that will leapfrog past Windows. But even if Tevanian can pull off that engineering feat, by motivating Apple's talented but demoralized ranks, he must manage one more miracle - persuading independent software vendors to create programs that take advantage of the Rhapsody OS that is due out next year. Just how hard that will be was evident after talking with John Warnock, chief executive of Adobe Systems Corp. Adobe sells the software that is the heart and soul of the Mac, programs like Photoshop and Illustrator that are used by graphic artists everywhere. Warnock said Adobe had told Tevanian that Apple must change its plans for Rhapsody. As first explained in January, Apple said Rhapsody would have two separate environments, which it called the blue box and the yellow box. At the time, Apple said Rhapsody's blue box would let the new OS run current Mac programs, be they word processors or desktop publishing software. The yellow box, by contrast, would be the environment in which to create new and more powerful Mac programs. But to take advantage of the power inside the yellow box, developers would have to rewrite their programs from scratch. Warnock said Wednesday that "Adobe is not interested in rewriting its applications" for the yellow box. That would take too much time and money. Instead, he wants Tevanian to engineer Rhapsody so programs like Photoshop can use some features in the blue box and some in the yellow box, and not get stuck in one or the other. "There needs to be a middle ground," he said. "If Apple makes some compromises in the (blue) box, it would save a huge amount of time on our part." Stephen Howard, who has followed Apple's operating system saga for MacWeek magazine, was surprised by Warnock's comments. He said the Copland project had failed because it had tried to do what Warnock seemed to want from Rhapsody - to make old programs ran on a new operating system, only better. "Apple had a problem of trying to provide that," Howard said. But Warnock said "these operating systems are full of compromises; we're not asking them to do anything impossible." Warnock's comments only serve to illustrate the challenges Tevanian will face in trying to balance competing demands from Apple's software allies, customers, engineers and other constituencies. And as he tries to navigate the reefs and shoals of his new position, Tevanian will have to steer clear of one other storm, the issue of his loyalties. On the organizational chart, he is a vice president at Apple, answerable to Amelio. But in temperament and office geography, he seems much closer to Jobs. "I work for Gil Amelio, and Gil is my boss," Tevanian said in answer to a question. "If there is some disagreement, his word prevails. "That having been said, I have a very long relationship with Steve," he added. "We often have the same ideas at the same time." -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 Origin: ------------> QuickTime is on my side. Yes it is.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Using zsh with Terminal Service - New Shell Here Date: 13 Mar 1997 05:47:45 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5g84e1$se5@news.digifix.com> I've switched from tcsh to zsh, and finally worked out my Terminal Services problems, and now I'm running into one small problem... New Shell Here does this to set the current directory to the selection set cdto = %s; if (-f $cdto) set cdto = $cdto:h; cd $cdto; clear Does anyone have a fix for this that works with zsh? Thanks Scott -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Message-ID: <1997Mar11.185917.456@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: tim@apple.com Organization: Disorganization References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5fvugd$gni@cerberus.ibmoto.com> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:59:17 GMT In <5fvugd$gni@cerberus.ibmoto.com> Tim Olson wrote: > I found that the Makefile for kaffe/kaffe subdirectory seems to be > broken (at least under NeXTSTEP). I was able to build it by changing It seems that NeXT-Make recently has some problems with free/pd software from the net. I always use GNU-make in this case - and it often helps. But I don't know if kaffe Makefiles would work with GNU make.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703112355.SAA10455@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 97dc436da2ddcd692eb5cc160e7e6ca2 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 18:55:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Emacs.app for OS4.0/Intel? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 97dc436da2ddcd692eb5cc160e7e6ca2 - Responding To: rao@supermod.egr.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Original Date: 10 Mar 1997 16:40:47 GMT Message-ID: 97dc436da2ddcd692eb5cc160e7e6ca2 - > I am running OS4.0 on Intel and as documented before, I cannot > compile the latest beta of Emacs.app in this version. (the > developer list at Omni site has some helpful hints, but > I do not have access to an NS3.3 machine to try the > remedy suggested there). If no one has answered yet, you can find the new Emacs-page linked to my NeXT page under the 'other sites' page from http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Check under 'Users' pages' I believe.... Someone has taken this over since Carl Edman left the NeXTRealm. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience.
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 13 Mar 1997 08:04:57 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5g8cf9$qeb$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5fvugd$gni@cerberus.ibmoto.com> <1997Mar11.185917.456@gamelan.shnet.org> Thomas Funke <thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM> wrote: : > I found that the Makefile for kaffe/kaffe subdirectory seems to be : > broken (at least under NeXTSTEP). I was able to build it by changing : It seems that NeXT-Make recently has some problems with free/pd software from : the net. I always use GNU-make in this case - and it often helps. But I don't : know if kaffe Makefiles would work with GNU make. Actually, yes and no. You need gmake to compile kaffe; but it's not NeXT make's fault that the 0.8.2 makefiles are a little fuzzy. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: "S.FAHIM" <samir@interpac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeuroSolutions Date: 13 Mar 1997 08:33:22 GMT Organization: Interpac Message-ID: <01bc2f88$8d0257d0$26564ec2@vanessa> References: <5fq6dv$qgp@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Yes, I'm looking for a copy of it too ! samir@interpac.be Operator <chris@polaris.scicntr.ortn.edu> wrote in article <5fq6dv$qgp@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>... > > The developer of this incredible neural network software no longer supports the > original NeXT version. I am looking to buy an existing license, or trade for > one from software that I own. > > Interested parties, please e-mail. > > Thanks in advance -- > > CB > >
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From: teb@eng.cam.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: texinfo Date: 13 Mar 1997 10:58:18 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5g8mka$99u@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Has anybody else had difficulties in running ./configure with texinfo-3.9 ... checking whether setvbuf arguments are reversed... configure: error: can not run test program while cross compiling or is aware of NeXT binaries to run info (forget about Emacs)? Thanks, Thomas --- Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. NeXT-Mail welcome, PGP-2.6.i key available.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703112357.SAA10472@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 38ed521843f0ff8accf74f5d2f7646c4 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 18:57:11 -0500 Subject: Re: DON'T BUY WinDelete from IMSI Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 38ed521843f0ff8accf74f5d2f7646c4 - Responding To: sandmn@interpath.com (Dan) Original Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:52:11 GMT Message-ID: 38ed521843f0ff8accf74f5d2f7646c4 - > I have seen the truth, and it makes no sense ! Neither does posting this to a newsgroup about NeXTStep (which doesn't need any such silly thing as an uninstaller for most packages) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703120011.TAA10579@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: cf3cd457d79ae39b13e87c4f389efe18 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 19:11:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Fonts? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: cf3cd457d79ae39b13e87c4f389efe18 - Responding To: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Original Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:02:27 GMT Message-ID: cf3cd457d79ae39b13e87c4f389efe18 - > Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it in > the /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? > > Thanks > > Geof > (BTW: I dont have TFM so unfortunately I cant RTFM!) TFM is linked to my web page (http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/) I can't remember the process exactly (which is the other good reason for having an FAQ) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703120003.TAA10518@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 6169069894cd3a5b54a02eb324aaa112 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 19:03:22 -0500 Subject: Re: SENDMAIL + user database + NeXT Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 6169069894cd3a5b54a02eb324aaa112 - Responding To: overeem.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (David Overeem) Original Date: 8 Mar 1997 11:37:55 GMT Message-ID: 6169069894cd3a5b54a02eb324aaa112 - > Hello folks. I just installed sendmail 8.8.5 on my NeXT (running > NS3.3dev) and I would like to use the user database option. All is > okay except that NeXT does not have the "makemap" utility that the > documentation calls for in order to create the ".db" file. It is > supposed to be a btree db file. Anyone have an executable of this > or perhaps knows how to do it a different way? There are an excellent set of instructions for sendmail & NeXT which are linked to my web page (http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/) under 'other sites' (check under 'Users'). TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience.
From: bjohnson@verity.com (Brett M. Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 13 Mar 1997 04:21:11 GMT Organization: Verity, Inc. Message-ID: <5g7vbn$if0@nuclear.verity.com> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5g1lvt$3se$1@darla.visi.com> <5g4ql2$6m6@news-central.tiac.net> Cc: zander@conextions.com In <5g4ql2$6m6@news-central.tiac.net> Aleksey Sudakov wrote: > So guys anyone of you succeed in making kaffe to use shared libraries > under Mach? Any rumors when and whould it be really supported? I have always had great difficulty in getting kaffe to compile properly under NS3.3.P1. For starters, I do the following: a) hack config-io.h to get dirent.h back (it says "This may nolonger be necessary") b) hack config.h to HAVE_DIRENT_H c) patch the Makefiles to add -Wall to CFLAGS (there are LOTS of warnings) d) rename stubs like FileOutputStreamStub.c to StubFileOutputStream.c so libtool doesn't compain about object file name collisions. (I guess it only stores first 16 characters in module name). e) Hack the makefiles to use libtool rather than ar (so maybe make FAT binaries) Without the dirent hacks, it doesn't compile AT ALL. The other mods are trying to clean up the build process. It doesn't matter though... cause kaffe always drops core immediately when I run it. Several revisions ago it would run under GDB (but not standalone), but now it crashes in gdb as well, in method dispatching code. When I turned off JIT, it seemed to work again (sort of...). -- Brett M. Johnson Verity Inc. Software Author 894 Ross Drive bjohnson@verity.com Sunnyvale, CA 94089
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NXFax!!! Date: 13 Mar 1997 10:21:28 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc2f68$48789ea0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> I am an old user of NXFax who had forogtten my password to unlock NXFax. Anyway where I can contact the publishers or if someone is kind enough to help me with this? Michael Chan
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax!!! Date: 13 Mar 1997 13:10:11 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5g8ubj$ktq@news4.digex.net> References: <01bc2f68$48789ea0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> wrote: > I am an old user of NXFax who had forogtten my password to unlock > NXFax. Anyway where I can contact the publishers or if someone > is kind enough to help me with this? email them at nxfax@banw.com -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software Subject: file stuck in NextTrash Date: 13 Mar 1997 13:16:49 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5g8uo1$bh0@eve.enteract.com> I was deleting some files and somehow the <root> directory from one of my .NextTrash directories got stuck in the recycler (e.g. /HD-3/.NextTrash/root ). I don't know how it ended up in there, but now I'm stuck because it can't be deleted and cannot be moved out of the recycler. And of course now I get an alert every time I empty the recycler telling me that this directory cannot be read... I tried su root, but no go. Any explanations and/or suggestions would be appreciated. thanks. please cc <kpc@enteract.com> -- Kevin Coffee <kpc@enteract.com> <diffwerk@enteract.com> d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 13 Mar 1997 13:57:46 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5g914q$b4j@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5g7vbn$if0@nuclear.verity.com> In article <5g7vbn$if0@nuclear.verity.com> bjohnson@verity.com (Brett M. Johnson) writes: > I have always had great difficulty in getting kaffe to compile properly > under NS3.3.P1. > For starters, I do the following: > a) hack config-io.h to get dirent.h back (it says "This may nolonger be > necessary") > b) hack config.h to HAVE_DIRENT_H Wrong. I've built kaffe MANY times, going back to the 0.6 days, and never had to do that. I DID, however, sometimes have to do set this in config.h /* Do we have sys/dir.h */ #define HAVE_SYS_DIR_H 1 so that it would include sys/dir.h. > d) rename stubs like FileOutputStreamStub.c to StubFileOutputStream.c so > libtool doesn't compain about object file name collisions. (I guess it only > stores first 16 characters in module name). No biggie. It's a warning only and doesn't hamper performance or cause problems. > e) Hack the makefiles to use libtool rather than ar (so maybe make FAT > binaries) Doesn't matter. kaffe doesn't support FAT builds anyway. Find my packages for kaffe binaries (upto v0.8 to date) at peak. I'm working on 0.8.2 right now. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 13 Mar 1997 18:57:23 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> Cc: warnock@adobe.com In <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> SHEPPARD GORDON wrote: > Apple's OS Man Is On The Spot; Software Writers Want NeXt-Based System To Do > The Near-Impossible > 03/12/97 > San Francisco Examiner > > Warnock said Adobe had told Tevanian that Apple must change its plans for > Rhapsody. As first explained in January, Apple said Rhapsody would have two > separate environments, which it called the blue box and the yellow box. > > At the time, Apple said Rhapsody's blue box would let the new OS run > current Mac programs, be they word processors or desktop publishing software. > The yellow box, by contrast, would be the environment in which to create new > and more powerful Mac programs. > > But to take advantage of the power inside the yellow box, developers would > have to rewrite their programs from scratch. > > Warnock said Wednesday that "Adobe is not interested in rewriting its > applications" for the yellow box. That would take too much time and money. > Instead, he wants Tevanian to engineer Rhapsody so programs like Photoshop > can use some features in the blue box and some in the yellow box, and not get > stuck in one or the other. > > "There needs to be a middle ground," he said. "If Apple makes some > compromises in the (blue) box, it would save a huge amount of time on our > part." > > Stephen Howard, who has followed Apple's operating system saga for MacWeek > magazine, was surprised by Warnock's comments. He said the Copland project > had failed because it had tried to do what Warnock seemed to want from > Rhapsody - to make old programs ran on a new operating system, only better. > My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate opinion, and that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. Don't cripple/compromise the architecture in a way we already know can kill the entire project with an overcomplex architecture. I will buy a "pure" Rhapsody. I guarantee that. If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on Rhapsody. Period. If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a similar public statement. Don't let the whiners make terrorist threats against the future of the platform. (I don't know if warnock@adobe.com works, but I'm cc'ing this there) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Allegro Common Lisp info needed Message-ID: <1997Mar12.215731.618@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com Organization: Disorganization References: <5g4ekk$rrd@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001203970004020001@news.tiac.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:57:31 GMT In <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001203970004020001@news.tiac.net> James B. Frazer wrote: > > Was the NS 2.0 ACL version sent by NeXT a full release or merely an > > upgrade of the NS 1 ACL? In other words, can the NS 2.0 ACL be installed as > > a full release or must NS 1 ACL already exist so that it can be upgraded? > > Seems to be a full release of Version 3.1. > If you have a Linux box , you can get the latest Allegro CL (4.3) for Linux for *free* from Franz Inc. Just visit their homepage and fill out the form, they'll send you a CD. Great service in my opinion.
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:00:05 -0500 Organization: SoftArc Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> In article <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com wrote: > My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate opinion, and > that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. Exactly. > overcomplex architecture. I will buy a "pure" Rhapsody. I guarantee that. > If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on Rhapsody. > Period. Exactly. > If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a > similar public statement. Where? Maury
From: webboy@webname.com (David) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:41:03 -0700 Organization: Webboy Productions Distribution: world Message-ID: <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230>, maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) wrote: >In article <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com wrote: > >> My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate opinion, and >> that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. > > Exactly. > >> overcomplex architecture. I will buy a "pure" Rhapsody. I guarantee that. >> If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on Rhapsody. >> Period. > > Exactly. > >> If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a >> similar public statement. > > Where? > >Maury There's always Live Picture and I'm sure other companies will step in and make Rhaposody graphics apps should Adobe be so stupid to hand it's huge market in this area over to them. -- webboy@webname.com
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: No more free WebObjects? Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:10:04 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <33286D2C.3B18@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Hello: Did NeXT stop offering the free version of WebObjects? Sigh... All I see is how to order WebObjects Pro and Enterprise. Thanks. -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: graemeg@biosci.uq.edu.au (Graeme Griffiths) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel. Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:16:10 GMT Organization: Uni of Qld Message-ID: <33286de6.35385513@news.uq.edu.au> References: <01bc2673$d78f0460$71b797ce@jeanladu> <331AEF6B.9C1@worldbank.org> On Mon, 03 Mar 1997 10:34:03 -0500, Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> wrote: >Jean Paul Ladue wrote: >> Where can I find information on NextStep for Intel? I wednt to the Next >> website but had no luck, all I found was a bunch info about OpenStep. Also >> what is the academic price for NextStep. Thanks. > >The shipping version of NeXTSTEP is now called OPENSTEP for Mach. So what' >you want is the Intel version of that. > >-- >Stefano Pagiola >850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA >All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect >those of my employer If you want to buy OpenStep for Mach, Intel see: http://www.optimal-object.com/ They sell all versions of OpenStep to Corporations and Individuals Graeme! http://www.uq.edu.au/~bcggriff/Graeme.html
From: djunt@mtu.edu (Derek Juntunen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: 13 Mar 1997 16:30:20 -0500 Organization: Michigan Technological University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g9rlc$9la@youth.yth> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> David (webboy@webname.com) wrote: : In article <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230>, maury@softarc.com : (Maury Markowitz) wrote: : : >In article <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com wrote: : > : >> My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate opinion, and : >> that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. : > : > Exactly. : > : >> overcomplex architecture. I will buy a "pure" Rhapsody. I guarantee that. : >> If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on : Rhapsody. : >> Period. : > : > Exactly. : > : >> If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a : >> similar public statement. : > : > Where? : > : >Maury : : : There's always Live Picture and I'm sure other companies will step in and : make Rhaposody graphics apps should Adobe be so stupid to hand it's huge : market in this area over to them. Warnock is almost certainly just bluffing. He would be a fool to not develop for the Yellow Box. Derek
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Font on OS/NT Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:20:26 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <33286F9A.6C3D@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Hi All: I have an extensive collection of fonts on my old NeXTStation Color 25MHz. Can I use them as is with my OPENSTEP Enterprise on NT 4.0? If so, how? Please reply by e-mail to: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu Many Thanks. -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 13 Mar 1997 21:23:57 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> Cc: webboy@webname.com In <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> David wrote: > In article <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230>, maury@softarc.com > (Maury Markowitz) wrote: > > >In article <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com wrote: > > > >> My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate opinion, and > >> that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. > > > > Exactly. > > > >> overcomplex architecture. I will buy a "pure" Rhapsody. I guarantee that. > >> If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on > Rhapsody. > >> Period. > > > > Exactly. > > > >> If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a > >> similar public statement. > > > > Where? > > > >Maury > > > There's always Live Picture and I'm sure other companies will step in and > make Rhaposody graphics apps should Adobe be so stupid to hand it's huge > market in this area over to them. > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, take a look." If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should continue his current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 13 Mar 1997 21:20:40 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g9r38$5kh$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> Cc: maury@softarc.com In <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> Maury Markowitz wrote: > In article <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com wrote: > > If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a > > similar public statement. > > Where? > > Maury > Well, I meant to the newsgroups I had posted this to :-) I would also cc it to warnock@adobe.com (since that didn't bounce when I cc'ed it to him, I assume that at least someone reads that, and will let him know if a huge number of people start making noises about this). -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: "L. Todd Heberlein" <heberlei@NetSQ.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 13 Mar 1997 22:29:43 GMT Organization: mother.com Internet Services Message-ID: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> > Warnock said Wednesday that "Adobe is not interested in rewriting its > applications" for the yellow box. That would take too much time and money. > "There needs to be a middle ground," he said. "If Apple makes some > compromises in the (blue) box, it would save a huge amount of time on our > part." These comments have concerned me for two reasons. First, many vendors with large projects which have evolved over time might balk to a whole new set of APIs. In many instances, the original developers may be long gone. Second, I thought Adobe would be one of the biggest supporters of Rhapsody. After all, Apple is endorsing Adobe's Display Postscript. I even seem to recall Adobe once had an application on NEXTSTEP. I think Apple should be concerned about and address these issues. How they address this is another story, but I hope they do. There appears to be at least three migration paths. First, stick with the MacOS APIs and run your applications in the Blue Box. Second, use Metrowerk's Lattitude software to move your MacOS code to the yellow box[1][2]. Third, develop new code for the Yellow box. Metrowerks helped Apple's transition to the PowerPC, maybe history will repeat itself. Todd [1] http://www.metrowerks.com/news/press/rhapsody.html [2] http://www.metrowerks.com/news/press/management.html
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 17:00:32 -0500 Organization: SoftArc Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <maury-1303971700320001@199.166.204.230> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> In article <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com>, webboy@webname.com (David) wrote: > There's always Live Picture and I'm sure other companies will step in and > make Rhaposody graphics apps should Adobe be so stupid to hand it's huge > market in this area over to them. Yeah, PhotoShop is going to run as-is anyway, most likely at OK speed too. If people need to, they'll use it, all the while switching back more and more to the newer apps. Maury
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Netsurfer 2.0 broken with OPENSTEP 4.x? Date: 13 Mar 1997 23:25:33 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5ga2dd$n7p@news4.digex.net> Hi all, I just upgraded to Netsurfer 2.0 (OmniWeb was just getting a bit too pokey for me). Unfortunatly, web pages don't seem to want to load up. Netsurfer 1.11 works fine. And FTP'ing in Netsurfer2.0 works fine. But 2.0 doesn't seem to want to load pages. Anyone else experience this? Is there a workaround? -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 13 Mar 1997 23:52:55 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5ga40n$b4g$2@news.xmission.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> "L. Todd Heberlein" <heberlei@NetSQ.com> wrote: > I even seem to > recall Adobe once had an application on NEXTSTEP. Yeah. Some obsure little thing called "Illustrator". Perhaps you've heard of it? :-) In fact, given that they DID have Illustrator running on NEXTSTEP in the past, I think an OPENSTEP port should be pretty darned easy for them. The problem is that, apparently, there are a few lazy whiners over there at Adobe. I guess we need to ask Scott Byer to flay them into shape... :-) > I think Apple should be concerned about and > address these issues. How they address this is another > story, but I hope they do. They need to stay their course. If Adobe wants to sink themselves, let them. There are other apps out there to pick up the slack. If Altsys revives Virtuoso, then between TIFFany and Virtuoso Adobe could and would lose a lot of marketshare. It is more their loss than ours, frankly. Most of their other products exist in some form for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP already, too, so I think Adobe will be in for a rude awakening if they stick to Warnock's short-sighted remarks. > There appears to be at least three migration paths. First, stick with the > MacOS APIs and run your applications in the Blue Box. Second, use > Metrowerk's Lattitude software to move your MacOS code to the yellow > box. Third, develop new code for the Yellow box. Metrowerks helped > Apple's transition to the PowerPC, maybe history will repeat itself. That's right. I don't see "water down the Yellow Box" as an option. -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: Paul Heffernan <cedar@cedar.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Cedar Systems trying to reply to olaf@koeln.shuttle.de Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:25:29 +0000 Organization: Cedar Systems Limited Distribution: world Message-ID: <lOq4hCA5rJKzEwRs@cedar.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Olaf, Regarding your questions about CedarWord, its benefits and low cost; we have been trying to reply to your email but the mail is bouncing with unknown host. Please email us with your email address. Cedar Systems Limited 2440 The Quadrant, Aztec West, Bristol, BS12 4AQ, England email:phef@cedar.co.uk http://www.cedar.co.uk tel:+44 1454 878708 fax:+44 1454 878608
From: publicist@meetmeonline.com (MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Adaptec 2940AU <-- Note the "A" :) Date: 13 Mar 1997 23:39:56 GMT Organization: MeetMeOnline <a zerologic company> Message-ID: <publicist-1303971742370001@thebook.on-demand.com> url: http://www.meetmeonline.com/ I found the Adaptec 2940U drivers at the NeXTansers site but found, much to my dismay, that it doesn't support the AU. Does anyone know of a workaround for this? TIA, Michael. -- Meet a friend, Meet a lover, Meet another... MeetMe at http://www.meetmeonline.com/
From: whale4me@aol.com (Whale4Me) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SBook (does any still use this?) bug help Date: 14 Mar 1997 00:46:20 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970314004600.TAA03366@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <331F47A7.6F7E@ibm.net> Sarrus is alive and well in Burlingame, CA. Their number is 415-343-9111. Punch in extension 11 and talk to Andy and tell him Dede sent you. They provide excellent support!
From: whale4me@aol.com (Whale4Me) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q:Reporting tool Date: 14 Mar 1997 00:44:08 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970314004400.TAA03225@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <E6BKEz.165@oic.de> Try DataSmith from BLaCKSMITH in northern VA. Not sure of availability for OpenStep. They are located at Tysons Corner. info@blacksmith.com
From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:16:09 GMT Organization: Netvigator Message-ID: <5g9v0t$ncd@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? MS Office 97 only costs US$45! Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center
From: whale4me@aol.com (Whale4Me) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: 14 Mar 1997 01:01:12 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970314010101.UAA04249@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580000903971341270001@news.tiac.net> Lighthouse Design's apps will run on OpenStep Mach now. Call Lighthouse at 1-800-366-2279. They are currently porting most of their apps to OpenStep for Solaris (as they were recently bought by Sun) and are porting some to OpenStepNT.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: Fonts? Message-ID: <E6ztvx.B4L@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5g4ld4$e0a@news.digifix.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 17:57:33 GMT In article <5g4ld4$e0a@news.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: > On 03/11/97, Frank M. Siegert wrote: > >In <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger wrote: > >> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Mar-97 Fonts? by > GEOF > >> ABRUZZI@wilbur.cac. > >> > Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it > in the > >> > /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? > >> > >> Put it in /LocalLibrary/Fonts. You should leave the > >> /Next{Admin,Apps,Library} directories as-is. > >> > > > >And run (in a shell) > > > >buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts > > > >to make the fonts visible. > > > > I don't think you need to do this anymore. I'm pretty sure > that just copying them into that directory causes Workspace to 'do the > right thing'.... > > Not really... If you put it in ~/Library/Fonts, everything is done automatically, if you put the fonts in /LocalLibrary/Fonts or /NextLibrary/Fonts you have to manually run buildafmdir for the font directory. -- ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Internet Phone Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:58:05 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-1303972258050001@81.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> Does anyone out there know of a program like Internet Phone that can be used on a NeXT? I'm running an '040 Turbo cube with NS 3.3. Mitch
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: 14 Mar 1997 03:16:08 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5gafto$kq0@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) wrote: > > An article in the San Francisco Examiner said: > > > ... to take advantage of the power inside the yellow box, > > developers would have to rewrite their programs from scratch. > > > > Warnock said Wednesday that "Adobe is not interested in > > rewriting its applications" for the yellow box. That would > > take too much time and money. Instead, he wants Tevanian to > > engineer Rhapsody so programs like Photoshop can use some > > features in the blue box and some in the yellow box, and not > > get stuck in one or the other. > > > > "There needs to be a middle ground," he said. "If Apple makes > > some compromises in the (blue) box, it would save a huge amount > > of time on our part." > > > My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate > opinion, and that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. > Don't cripple/compromise the architecture in a way we already > know can kill the entire project with an overcomplex architecture. People seem to take these comments as Warnock asking Apple to rewrite OpenStep (the "yellow box" part) to be compatible with the Toolbox routines of the MacOS. He is not saying that. He is suggesting no changes to the yellow box. What he is saying is that it will take Adobe too long to rewrite all their applications to the OpenStep API's. He wants some middle ground, but he's seeing that as changes to the *blue* box. Ie, add some hooks to the MacOS side such that MacOS applications can take advantage of some new technology, without having to be completely rewritten. Not only that, but for the transition it would be nice if *both* the blue-box *and* new versions of the MacOS had these changes. I can understand his reasoning. What I would do, if I were Apple, would be the following: 1) Get Rhapsody working, with a yellow-box that is basically the current OpenStep (plus some apple technologies), and a blue-box which is basically the MacOS. 2) *After* that is a shipping product, work on some simple improvements to both the MacOS and the blue box which might help out with the issues Warnock is talking about. I would not do any major development of the MacOS, but perhaps some minor (to program) changes could make a big difference for some applications. At the same time, developers like Warnock should realize that the OpenStep side of Rhapsody will have a big advantage. That part will be architecture-independent, and if Apple decides to push that product for the Intel architecture then Adobe (or anyone else trying to remain in the blue-box) will be out in the cold. The blue-box will definitely not make it to other architectures, and it would be stupid for an application developer to do a lot of work on their program only to have it limited to the blue-box on one architecture. Certainly I completely agree that Apple shouldn't spend a lot of effort trying to recreate the Mac toolbox under OpenStep. That is the path Copland took, and I think it's silly to head down that very same path a second time. note: Followups to advocacy groups, dropping csn.software (which is not an advocacy group!) --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Want to print selection from Edit Date: 14 Mar 1997 05:37:56 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I'm trying to figure out how to use the Pipe and Command features in Edit so that I can send the section ($selection) to be printed. I think there ought to be a way, but I can't figure it out. I know how to open a second window, paste the selection, save it, and then print it. I want an easier way. This is for when you're working on a huge file, and just want to print out one or two screens of it. Thanks in advance for any help! David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: "Your Name" <email@domain.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 14 Mar 97 03:42:55 +0000 Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189> References: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.voicenet.com/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://netnews.voicenet.com/comp.sys.mac.advocacy >So, will Adobe be the first with the most on Apple's new OS, >Rhapsody? Or is that too big a risk? > >[Laughs.] When people ask whether doing products for >Rhapsody is too risky, I think the Adobe answer is that it's too risky >not to do our products on Rhapsody. > >In terms of how much we have, and when, that is going to depend on >what we learn from Apple, what tools are available, what those tools >will allow us to do, and to what degree we can synchronize our >development process with Apple's. I agree with everyone here on this subject matter. The above quote came from MacUser this months issue. The interview was with the Senior VP (of course hes not the CEO, but he sounded smarter then the freaking CEO fer crying out loud. Of course, like what has been suggested by some in this thread, if he wants to give the market to some newbies then heres yer chance newbies go fer it. I'll support you, if you write an awesome program. I have no love/hate fer Adobe. Just thought they would be smarter then MicroSloft thats all.) OF Marketing at Adobe. Sure looks like a different attitude to me fer those who missed this interview go to <http://www.macuser.com/onlinecol/roblin.html> and read the interview with the Senior VP of Adobe and see how they love the new merger. I hate to bash the media again but I have a feeling its bad reporting, at its best again. Misquotes and the like. I can't imagine a CEO of a major corporation being this stupid, but then again this is America 8)....sorry just had to say that.....Nothing bloody suprises me anymore. Can't wait fer the Apple bloodbath tomorrow when the media really starts tearing Apple apart. Just hope, all the mac guys out there can hold there ground, and not get worried about all the negative news. I know its hard fer me, but I want Rhapsody and I wanna buy it.....sorry can't stomach NT or Windows 95.....bleh 8P, I also refuse to buy a PeeCee. If Apple dies, I'm going to give up on people and technology. I bought a VHS, hated it......I hate Windows and refuse to use it.... Three cheers to Avie and his team, and the best to the new Apple. I hope they screw Adobe (if this is true) and give the people what they want. Its true that developers are important, but so are we......we gotta buy this shit (sorry about the "shit" thing here, just sick and tired of all crap thats all) and use it. Heck I don't even care, if Rhapsody looks like NeXT Step with no new additional UI changes......just get it out the door pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze. Ken Townshend
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 02:41:03 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <858328121.9699@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> <5ga40n$b4g$2@news.xmission.com> In article <5ga40n$b4g$2@news.xmission.com>, don@globalobjects.com wrote: > A bunch of stuff... > They (Apple) need to stay their course. If Adobe wants to sink themselves > (by not porting to Rhapsody), > let them. There are other apps out there to pick up the slack. If > Altsys revives Virtuoso, then between TIFFany and Virtuoso Adobe > could and would lose a lot of marketshare. It is more their loss > than ours, frankly. Most of their other products exist in some form > for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP already, too, so I think Adobe will be in for > a rude awakening if they stick to Warnock's short-sighted remarks. Not to mention ANIMO on NeXTSTEP which kicks the Ass out of Adobe After Effects when it comes to animation. Also add a few printing and text handling tools and it would blow away Illustrator as well. It simply has the nicest bezier drawing tools on the planet (both illustrator and freehand seem twitchy in comparison). Of course Cambridge Animation would have to move to a more mainstream pricing model :) All Tiffany needs is to reverse engineer the photoshop plug-in architecture, add support for a few more file formats, add photoshop layers, and it would rule. What's up with Adobe do they want to kill the Goose that laid the Golden Egg? Are they just another Windows developer now? Jon Hooper hoops@cbc.net -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: webboy@webname.com (David) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:43:07 -0700 Organization: Starnet Message-ID: <webboy-ya02408000R1403970143070001@news.azstarnet.com> References: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189>, "Your Name" <email@domain.com> wrote: > >I agree with everyone here on this subject matter. The above quote came >from MacUser this months issue. The interview was with the Senior VP (of >course hes not the CEO, but he sounded smarter then the freaking CEO fer >crying out loud. Of course, like what has been suggested by some in this >thread, if he wants to give the market to some newbies then heres yer >chance newbies go fer it. I'll support you, if you write an awesome >program. I have no love/hate fer Adobe. Just thought they would be smarter >then MicroSloft thats all.) OF Marketing at Adobe. Sure looks like a >different attitude to me > This is the difference between a CEO, who knows little about programming, and an actual programmer, who can see the benefits of OpenSTEP. -- webboy@webname.com Made on a Power Macintosh 7300/180 Semper Mac!
From: biesingert@asme.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Two Column Menu for Services? Date: 14 Mar 1997 11:06:45 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5gbbg5$r0t@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Does anybody out there know how to handle a Services Menu that has become too long i.e. display it in two columns? What else could I do when the lower part cannot be displayed within the screen area? Much appreciate your comments, thanks! Thomas --- Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. NeXT-Mail welcome, PGP-2.6.i key available.
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Netsurfer 2.0 broken with OPENSTEP 4.x? Date: 14 Mar 1997 10:44:42 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gba6q$3br$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <5ga2dd$n7p@news4.digex.net> In article <5ga2dd$n7p@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: > I just upgraded to Netsurfer 2.0 (OmniWeb was just getting a bit > too pokey for me). Unfortunatly, web pages don't seem to want to > load up. Netsurfer 1.11 works fine. And FTP'ing in Netsurfer2.0 > works fine. But 2.0 doesn't seem to want to load pages. > > Anyone else experience this? Is there a workaround? I have Netsurfer 2.0 running fine on a OS 4.1 box. I didn't have any problems with OS 4.0 either. Are your proxy entries configured accordingly ? I remember some problems in a 2.0beta release when a proxy was given with the "http://" prefix. They meanwhile should work with and without that prefix, but I didn't check that. I use it without prefix. Detlev PS: Netsurfers animated GIFs are a real plus over OmniWeb :-) -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Emil: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 14 Mar 1997 04:21:16 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <jcr.858341775@idiom.com> References: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189> <webboy-ya02408000R1403970143070001@news.azstarnet.com> webboy@webname.com (David) writes: >This is the difference between a CEO, who knows little about programming, >and an actual programmer, who can see the benefits of OpenSTEP. I'm not letting this one just go by, NFW. John Warnock solved the hidden-surface problem. John Warnock conceived, developed and refined the Postscript language and adobe's postscript interpreter. John Warnock is a genius. He is right up there with Don Knuth, Alan Turing, and John Von Neumann. John Warnock's programming skill is several orders of magnitude beyond that of anyone who's ever griped about him in this newsgroup. -jcr
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PEANUTS CDROM ARCHIVE Date: 10 Mar 1997 07:04:43 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <5g0bqb$58n@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> <E6M88D.7ou@onevision.de> <5fpf7b$me4$3@msunews.cl.msu.edu> blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) wrote: >> >> I guess you guys forget the nice guys at peanuts do this in their spare >> time. And maybe there are just to much orders right now. >> You would prefer one of them sitting around just sending out emails saing >> sorry for the delay we are busy? >> > >The vacation unix utility would do the job. Or do they have some kind of an >automated reply message? > Hm, no. I'm not using the vacation utility. Maybe I should take a look on it. Anyway we are both using NeXTMail.app, so sending mail with enabled Read-Receipt would to the job, too. We also aren't 'flooded' with orders and we think we can handle them pretty well. But sometimes people expect magic things to happen even if they ordered without air-mail. In the first time, we used to use VariaData with a self-written script for processing the orders. This script automatically sent out an order confirmation via e-mail or fax, but with an growing number of orders, this script magically broke and we can't fix it. Hopefully I'll get my DataPhile licensed the next days and we can switch at least for the next CD-ROM (as far as there is demand for it ...) Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de)
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From: pom@imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Pommerening) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Want to print selection from Edit Date: 14 Mar 1997 09:39:59 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <5gb6df$glt@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> References: <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> In article <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes: # I'm trying to figure out how to use the Pipe and Command # features in Edit so that I can send the section ($selection) # to be printed. ... # Use TickleServices. You'll get it from the usual FTP archives (ftp.leo.org for example). -- Klaus Pommerening Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet, D-55101 Mainz, Germany PGP fingerprint: F5 03 CE E7 70 C2 8C 74 BA ED EC 60 83 3B 7C 89 http://www.Uni-Mainz.DE/~pommeren/
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Want to print selection from Edit Date: 14 Mar 97 08:53:10 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar14085310@howard.one.net> References: <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> In-reply-to: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu's message of 14 Mar 1997 05:37:56 GMT In article <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes: I'm trying to figure out how to use the Pipe and Command features in Edit so that I can send the section ($selection) to be printed. I think there ought to be a way, but I can't figure it out. I know how to open a second window, paste the selection, save it, and then print it. I want an easier way. You could pipe to enscript. Something like "... | enscript -2r". <plug>Another option would be to grab TickleServices. Then you can select the text, select the Services/Tickle Services/Enscript Text... menu item, and it gives you the option to print one-up or two-up.</plug> Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Your opinions and suggestion for improving CAPer/Ethertalk Date: 11 Mar 1997 21:17:56 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5g4i64$7qq$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Howdy! I'd like to ask everyone using CAPer about her/his suggestions (Columbia Appletalk Package for NeXT). I am in the process of improving this package and like to know about your problems. So please take 5 minutes of your time and help me a bit... - Does it work for you? - What must be improved to make installation easier? - What must be improved to make daily work/administration easier? - What functionality is missing? - Is the performance sufficent? - Did you experienced any crashes or data corruption? If so when and how? - Does the file export work for you? (AUFS server) - Does the file import (afpmount) work for you? - Does the print server (using UNIX printers from the Mac-side) work? - Does printing (to Appletalk printers) using 'papif' or 'lwpr' work? If not please describe the network environment. - Anything else? Thank you very much, please send this to frank@this.net. ---------- Some known problems in CAPer/CAPpl198 Release 8 (V4) are - when printing to a NT Server 'papif' does not work but 'lwpr' does. - when printing to a Novell Server neither 'papif' nor 'lwpr' works, the job is sent ok but the programs never finish since the server never sents an acknowledge packet. - afpmount'ed volumes from a NT server seems to cause problems, since the server terminate the connection on large file transfers. - Despite the message: 'Current zone is "*", using default zone "foobar"' from aarpd, it does not use the zone. It has to provided in the perferences. - Some zone names cannot be handled by the startup script, you have to set the name in the script itself, not in the default file. I am about to inverstigate these problems, and most are successful resolved. However I'd like to hear if you experienced one of these bugs too (maybe in a different context and environment...). -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: biesingert@asme.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TickleServices Date: 14 Mar 1997 17:46:20 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5gc2tc$dit@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Trying to get Fiend into the LaunchPath as suggestion in the manual; unfortunately, the documentation of TickleServices does not give a hint on how to modify Workspace/Add To LaunchPaths # Add an entry to the Workspace LaunchPaths default. set filenames [filenames] set launchpaths [split [defaults read Workspace LaunchPaths ""] ";"] foreach filename $filenames { lappend launchpaths $filename } defaults write Workspace LaunchPaths [join $launchpaths ";"] Do u know? Thanks. Thomas --- Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. NeXT-Mail welcome, PGP-2.6.i key available.
From: "Your Name" <email@domain.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 14 Mar 97 13:03:58 +0000 Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <AF4EFD41-2B3A8@207.103.11.245> References: <jcr.858341775@idiom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.voicenet.com/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://netnews.voicenet.com/comp.sys.mac.advocacy >>This is the difference between a CEO, who knows little about programming, >>and an actual programmer, who can see the benefits of OpenSTEP. > >I'm not letting this one just go by, NFW. > >John Warnock solved the hidden-surface problem. John Warnock conceived, >developed and refined the Postscript language and adobe's postscript >interpreter. John Warnock is a genius. He is right up there with Don >Knuth, Alan Turing, and John Von Neumann. > >John Warnock's programming skill is several orders of magnitude >beyond that of anyone who's ever griped about him in this newsgroup. > If hes such a genius, then why can't he get it thru his FUCKING head that Apple has no time to putz around anymore and they have to take what they can get PERIOD. Rhapsody, is what everyone was wimping about (developers and customers), now they got it they won't use it !!! Sounds freaking dumb to me !!!!
From: Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:45:41 -0800 Organization: Western Washington University Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: warnock@adobe.com In-Reply-To: <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> On 13 Mar 1997, John Rudd wrote: > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists > (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this > market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ > the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, take > a look." > > If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should continue his > current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. Your absolutly right. I've been wondering if what has been printed might be being taken out of context in the original article. It just dosent seem to jive with other noises coming from Adobe and Apple. The recent agreements about DPS/PS and Acrobate/Webobjects integration for instance. These are two companies combining some powerful code in order to strenghten themselves in the marketplace. Why would Adobe lock itself out of one of it most lucrative markets? I think that _maybe_ (hopefully?) Warnock is toalingonly about immediate integration. Wouldn't they port to Rhapsody in the next update--unless they plan on abandoning the mac completely. Given the agreements mentiioned above, Adobe's getting even closer to Apple however. Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. Mr. Warnock, I truly hope you rethink your stance on suporting your products in the Unified release of Rhapsody. The structure of the new OS seems to make it the perfect publishing platform--not only for pre-press but also online. I fully intend to move over to the new OS immediatly upon its release. If your company fails to port its products to the "Yellow Box", I will take my buisness elsewhere. Thankyou for your time, Robb Lincoln
From: Jason Wells <jasonw@sequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:23:31 -0800 Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <332997A3.264A@sequent.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I mistakenly wrote: Actually, I know the guys that make TIFFany. They're probably praying that Adobe won't commit to Adobe. Which may not be a bad thing. TIFFany is really, really cool. It isn't very cheap though. Errr.... that was supposed to read, "that Adobe won't commit to Rhapsody." Oops. Jason
From: Jason Wells <jasonw@sequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:10:17 -0800 Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <33299488.7374@sequent.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Rudd wrote: In <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> David wrote: Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, take a look." Actually, I know the guys that make TIFFany. They're probably praying that Adobe won't commit to Adobe. Which may not be a bad thing. TIFFany is really, really cool. It isn't very cheap though. If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should continue his current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. Probably. I think Warnock is trying to push Apple around because Apple is weak and Adobe is strong. But if Apple screws up Rhapsody for Warnock, everyone loses. I hope Apple shows a little spine here. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick. Jason
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BackSpace Problem Date: 14 Mar 1997 18:43:48 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc30a5$3d89a820$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> I have this problem with BackSpace screensaver which is an old problem I believe. The extra modules I loaded says "Can't Dynamically Load Class" or somethign the like. How do I solve this problem? Yes, I know of Fiend and the modules work on Fiend. But why doesn't it work on BackSpace itself? There's binaries compiled for Intel and I even recompiled one of the modules. Michael Chan
From: Jonathan Hendry <jon@subsequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:43:19 -0500 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robb Lincoln wrote: > Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... > Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help 'pay for the ports'. He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money.
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Home Directory Icons Lost Date: 14 Mar 1997 18:44:55 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc30a5$650e3be0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> I encountered a problem that some home directories are not shown with a home directory icon but a normal folder icon instead. I am using NS 3.3 on Intel.
From: Jonathan Hendry <jon@subsequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:17:12 -0500 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jason Wells wrote: > > John Rudd wrote: > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already > exists > (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects > this > market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say > "We _ARE_ > the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than > Photoshop, take > a look." > > Actually, I know the guys that make TIFFany. They're probably praying > that Adobe won't commit to Adobe. Which may not be a bad thing. TIFFany > is really, really cool. It isn't very cheap though. > The main catch is all those Plug-Ins and extensions that work with Adobe's programs. People have invested a lot of money in those. The API is public, but even if Tiffany included support for the API, would anyone port their extensions to Rhapsody if Adobe doesn't go? (Of course, I think Warnock's bluffing. Anyone care to check Adobe's IRS filings to see what percentage of their revenue comes from Mac software?)
From: zizi zhao <ziziz@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: the Adobe thing (Re: Tevanian's Task) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:42:01 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <3329AA09.68D8@worldnet.att.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apple should learn that she has to have her own killer Apps to run on Rhapsody like MS-Office for windows. The realtionship between Adobe and Apple was two-side love. Without Apple, Abode would not be the king of electronic publishing today. However this love has been broken by NT. Apple should never look back. ZZ ____________________________________________________________________ Robb Lincoln wrote: > > On 13 Mar 1997, John Rudd wrote: > > > > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists > > (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this > > market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ > > the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, take > > a look." > > > > If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should continue his > > current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. > > Your absolutly right. > > I've been wondering if what has been printed might be being taken out of > context in the original article. > > It just dosent seem to jive with other noises coming from Adobe and > Apple. The recent agreements about DPS/PS and Acrobate/Webobjects > integration for instance. These are two companies combining some > powerful code in order to strenghten themselves in the marketplace. Why > would Adobe lock itself out of one of it most lucrative markets? > > I think that _maybe_ (hopefully?) Warnock is toalingonly about immediate > integration. Wouldn't they port to Rhapsody in the next update--unless > they plan on abandoning the mac completely. Given the agreements > mentiioned above, Adobe's getting even closer to Apple however. > > Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... > Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. > > Mr. Warnock, > > I truly hope you rethink your stance on suporting your products > in the Unified release of Rhapsody. The structure of the new OS seems to > make it the perfect publishing platform--not only for pre-press but also > online. > I fully intend to move over to the new OS immediatly upon its > release. If your company fails to port its products to the "Yellow Box", > I will take my buisness elsewhere. > > Thankyou for your time, > Robb Lincoln
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Want to print selection from Edit Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 14 Mar 1997 20:41:30 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gcd5q$db6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Cc: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER In <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> David Finton wrote: > I'm trying to figure out how to use the Pipe and Command > features in Edit so that I can send the section ($selection) > to be printed. I think there ought to be a way, but I can't > figure it out. > This is for when you're working on a huge file, and just > want to print out one or two screens of it. > David Finton > finton@cs.wisc.edu this might be an interesting project for someone; the source to textedit is included with 4.x dev, could you add a "print selection" checkbox to the print panel, like Improv has? this would be for OPENSTEP only, of course. -rick followups to c.s.n.programmer
From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet Phone Date: 14 Mar 1997 20:39:19 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Message-ID: <5gcd1n$l78@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <mitchell.allen-1303972258050001@81.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> me too! Please email to me if you know. thanks! kai -- Software Engineer email: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca url: http://web.cs.mun.ca/~kwong/ PGP fingerprint <1B 67 F5 6C C4 44 4F 87 52 F7 61 C7 8E D0 36 40> finger kwong@plato.ucs.mun.ca to get PGP public key.
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-ROM Ejecting Date: 14 Mar 1997 20:49:34 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc30b5$899fdb20$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> I believe there were questions on CD-ROM not being able to eject automatically. But mine ejects whenever I logout or power down. Furthermore, I keep having problems like CD problems asking me to eject or initialize. As documented that when installing EIDE drives, we need to select 154x SCSI and removing afterwards. But this problem continue to exist even after I have removed the 154x from the SCSI config. Any solutions to this? I am using NS3.3 with Sony CDU76E-S 1.0c. Michael
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <E71KnC.1x7@free.fdn.fr> Sender: news@free.fdn.fr Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant. References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:33:12 GMT "L. Todd Heberlein" <heberlei@NetSQ.com> wrote: > > Warnock said Wednesday that "Adobe is not interested in rewriting its > > applications" for the yellow box. That would take too much time and > money. > > > "There needs to be a middle ground," he said. "If Apple makes some > > compromises in the (blue) box, it would save a huge amount of time on our > > part." > > These comments have concerned me for two reasons. First, many vendors with > large projects which have evolved over time might balk to a whole new set > of APIs. In many instances, the original developers may be long gone. > Second, I thought Adobe would be one of the biggest supporters of Rhapsody. > After all, Apple is endorsing Adobe's Display Postscript. I even seem to > recall Adobe once had an application on NEXTSTEP. I think Apple should be > concerned about and address these issues. How they address this is another > story, but I hope they do. > > There appears to be at least three migration paths. First, stick with the > MacOS APIs and run your applications in the Blue Box. Second, use > Metrowerk's Lattitude software to move your MacOS code to the yellow > box[1][2]. Third, develop new code for the Yellow box. Metrowerks helped > Apple's transition to the PowerPC, maybe history will repeat itself. > > Todd > > [1] http://www.metrowerks.com/news/press/rhapsody.html > [2] http://www.metrowerks.com/news/press/management.html > ComposeInColor or TiffAny2 are good competitor to PhotoShop. -- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 (0)1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 (0)1 48 55 09 90 GSM: 33 (0)6 60 46 36 83
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Netsurfer 2.0 broken with OPENSTEP 4.x? Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:41:27 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5gcgm7$1vk@news4.digex.net> References: <5ga2dd$n7p@news4.digex.net> <5gba6q$3br$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) wrote: > In article <5ga2dd$n7p@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> > writes: > > I just upgraded to Netsurfer 2.0 (OmniWeb was just getting a > > bit too pokey for me). Unfortunatly, web pages don't seem to > > want to load up. Netsurfer 1.11 works fine. And FTP'ing in > > Netsurfer2.0 works fine. But 2.0 doesn't seem to want to load > > pages. > > Anyone else experience this? Is there a workaround? > I have Netsurfer 2.0 running fine on a OS 4.1 box. I didn't have > any problems with OS 4.0 either. > Are your proxy entries configured accordingly ? I remember some > problems in a 2.0beta release when a proxy was given with the > "http://" prefix. They meanwhile should work with and without > that prefix, but I didn't check that. I use it without prefix. Hmmm, I don't use a proxy.?! Weird, b/c everything else works. I can't figure it out. I wonder what's going on here...sigh... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC4.1:Latest patches? Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:46:54 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> I remember that someone (was it Ian?) said there was a patch to 4.1, that brought it up to 4.1.1. Where do I find it? On Insignia's site I see Nextspc4.1p1.Z, does that update 4.0->4.1, or is that the 4.1->4.1.1 update? Thanks for any info? -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:54:21 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gched$iqe@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> In article <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> Jonathan Hendry <jon@subsequent.com> writes: >(Of course, I think Warnock's bluffing. Anyone care to check Adobe's >IRS filings to see what percentage of their revenue comes from Mac >software?) You are the second person who mentioned "bluff." But for what? What does Adobe gain by this bluff? It only makes sense if Apple is trying to do something seriously worse than Adobe's extra cost for developing for Rhapsody. Like, Apple quietly not using true Adobe-made DisplayPostScript... There was a rumer some weeks ago, posted in comp.lang.postscript, that QMS quietly dropped using Adobe PS several years ago, but QMS offered to Adobe that they would continue to use "Adobe PostScript" label as a *favor* to Adobe (of course without licensing fees). The rationale being that Adobe wouldn't want the industry to know that they are losing the hold as the dominant PS interpreter supplier. I don't know if I should believe this rumer, but if Apple tries to do something similar, or trying to license DPS clone from someone else, or have their own internal version of DPS, I can see how upset the Adobe CEO might become, which may cause him to use the Adobe apps as a leverage for licensing of Adobe DPS by Apple. Otherwise, I don't get it. Izumi
From: dob@mrd100.mmm.ucar.edu (David Blanchard,,,) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: perl v5.002 .pkg install Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:18:29 GMT Organization: NOAA/NSSL, Boulder, Colorado Message-ID: <5gcfb5$55$1@newncar.ucar.edu> Hello, I just recently downloaded the perl v5.002 package (Perl.pkg) and tried the install. Everything seemed to work fine; executables installed in /usr/local/bin, man pages in /usr/local/man/, etc. However, I cannot seem to find the perl executable anywhere. Do I need to get it elsewhere (??), or am I missing the obvious? Thanks, -db- -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | David Blanchard NOAA/NSSL & OU/CIMMS Boulder, Colorado | | blanch@ucar.edu http://mrd3.mmm.ucar.edu/~dob/www/ | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace Problem Date: 15 Mar 1997 00:58:28 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <5gcs7k$mjm@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <01bc30a5$3d89a820$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> Cc: Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg In <01bc30a5$3d89a820$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> "Michael Chan" wrote: > I have this problem with BackSpace screensaver which is an old problem I > believe. > The extra modules I loaded says "Can't Dynamically Load Class" or somethign > the like. How do I solve this problem? The module name that BackSpace is looking for changed with the newer version of BackSpace that arrived with NeXTstep 3.0. All the files that used to be named SomethingView.o need to be renamed SomethingView.BackO There is a cshell script in /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/Backspace that will do this for you, it is named convertToBackOs. Or you can do it yourself from the command line or even from the point-and-click GUI. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Home Directory Icons Lost Date: 15 Mar 1997 01:44:49 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm287-04.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5gcuuh$b9u$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <01bc30a5$650e3be0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> Cc: Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg In <01bc30a5$650e3be0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> "Michael Chan" wrote: > I encountered a problem that some home directories are not shown with a > home directory icon but a normal folder icon instead. > > I am using NS 3.3 on Intel. > > Check the ownerships of the directories. The directories have to be owned by the users. This gets damaged when using 'tar' to restore lost directories etc. Also, if the directories are moved to a disk other then the main disk, the disk get's mounted under the ownership of the user loggen in on the console. /etc/fstab takes care of that. Example is enclosed. You have to change the /dev/sdXY devices and the mounting points. Good luck. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability -------------- Enclosed example of /etc/fstab ------------ # # DO NOT DELETE THIS FILE, IT IS REQUIRED FOR BOOTING # # This file contains information used to mount local hard disks. # Consult your system administration and networking manual # for information on adding local disks. Information on the format # of entries in this file can also be found in the fstab man page, # search for fstab in Digital Librarian. # /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd1a /InternalDisk2 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 /dev/sd2a /ExternalDisk 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Two Column Menu for Services? Date: 14 Mar 1997 12:56:58 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5gbhuq$3hf@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <5gbbg5$r0t@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <5gbbg5$r0t@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> On 03/13/97, biesingert@asme.org wrote: >Does anybody out there know how to handle a >Services Menu that has become too long i.e. >display it in two columns? What else could I do >when the lower part cannot be displayed within >the screen area? > >Much appreciate your comments, thanks! > >Thomas There is no way to make the menu two columns. There are a few things you can do: 1) In Preferences.app there is a "Servcies Preferences" module which allows you to disable services which you don't use. These disabled services will no longer clutter up your menu. Disable enough and the menu will soon fit on the screen again. 2) Enable the right-mouse button pop up menu feature and use this to access the services menu. If part of the services menu appears off the screen you can drag the mouse down to the bottom of the screen and the menu will scroll up until more is visible. 3) Set the system to use a smaller system font. 4) Use a higher resolution display (on Intel). >Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, >University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, >Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, >vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. >NeXT-Mail welcome, PGP-2.6.i key available. -- __________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf - NeXTStep/OpenStep Developer Mail: cwolf@wolfware.com Web: http://www.wolfware.com/cwolf/cwolf.shtml __________________________________________________
From: "Lawson English" <english@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 14 Mar 1997 14:11:03 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156> References: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> nntp://news.primenet.com/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.primenet.com/comp.sys.mac.advocacy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Robb Lincoln wrote: > >> Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... >> Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. > >He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: >Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help >'pay for the ports'. > >He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and >expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. > >He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to >make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money. > Which merely proves one of my original points about how DPS is *automatically* a bad thing for Apple: it makes Apple dependent on another company for THE essential core of its operating system. It's the GUI that makes a Mac a Mac and its the graphics engine that makes the GUI (or enhancements thereof possible). By committing to DPS, Apple makes themselves vulnerable to every whim of Adobe, as you yourself just pointed out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Apple is handcuffed to a burning building and has started to chew off its right leg to survive." - David Brady referring to rumored Apple cuts. -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 15 Mar 1997 00:38:42 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5gcr2i$c41@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189> Followups-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy "Your Name" <email@domain.com> wrote: > > > "So, will Adobe be the first with the most on Apple's new > > OS, Rhapsody? Or is that too big a risk?" > > > > "[Laughs.] When people ask whether doing products for > > Rhapsody is too risky, I think the Adobe answer is that > > it's too risky not to do our products on Rhapsody." > > > > "In terms of how much we have, and when, that is going to > > depend on what we learn from Apple, what tools are > > available, what those tools will allow us to do, and to > > what degree we can synchronize our development process > > with Apple's." > > I agree with everyone here on this subject matter. The above > quote came from MacUser this months issue. The interview was with > the Senior VP (of course hes not the CEO, but he sounded smarter > then the freaking CEO fer crying out loud). Note that he did not necessarily say anything different from what John Warnock said. It just left you warmer and fuzzier than John's comments. For one, different people mean different things when they say "Rhapsody" (including people at Apple...). Besides, his comments have a lot of "it depends on Apple" disclaimers in it. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: tbrown@netset.com (Ted Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 22:38:48 -0500 Organization: NetSet Internet Services -- Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <tbrown-1403972238490001@ppp102.dialup.cmh.netset.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> In article <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com>, jon@subsequent.com wrote: >The main catch is all those Plug-Ins and extensions that work with >Adobe's >programs. People have invested a lot of money in those. The API is >public, but even if Tiffany included support for the API, would anyone >port their extensions to Rhapsody if Adobe doesn't go? > >(Of course, I think Warnock's bluffing. Anyone care to check Adobe's >IRS filings to see what percentage of their revenue comes from Mac >software?) I don't know the specifics about Adobe's Plug-in API, but it could be possible for a native Rhapsody program to load a PPC plug-in and run it (I don't think that Plug-in's have full access to the MacOS). That would mean that a plug-in wouldn't have to be ported to Rhapsody. And, I wouldn't bet that companies won't port their plug-ins, esp if they see the market begin to shift. Small companies tend to be quite familiar with which side their bread is buttered on. As you point out, large companies like Adobe should also have an inkling which side to butter. -- Ted Brown tbrown@netset.com
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: Procmail - forward to user? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 15 Mar 1997 08:53:37 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5gdo2h$563@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Hello, I was just trying to install "procmail" on my system, for this special purpose: I want it to take each incoming mail and if teh subject line matches, teh mail should go to me AND someone else (alternatively, only someone else). However, I don't seem to find any provisions for that... the ebst I got is that the mail went to the proper mailbox in the spool directory, but owned by me so that the other user didn't get at it... Is there any way, procmail or not, that would selectively forward my email to someone else? Please Cc: me when you reply to the newsgroup, our news server is lagging by ~4 days... Thanks, - Stan --- Nature photography: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help: (Driver Kit...) Date: 15 Mar 1997 10:46:26 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <5gdum2$6f1$3@news.cc.umr.edu> Hi, I was trying to write a Device Driver for EPIX frame grabber card under NextStep 3.2. My problem is that when ever I try to open the port, and if the video signal is not present at the port (camera is not powered on) the system hangs. Is there any way I could time this out. I mean if the port is not available (not powered) just don't open it!! Any pointer on this will be helpful. Thank you very much for your time ... Sanjeev
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 05:11:03 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <858423677.26839@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189> <webboy-ya02408000R1403970143070001@news.azstarnet.com> <jcr.858341775@idiom.com> In article <jcr.858341775@idiom.com>, jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) wrote: > > webboy@webname.com (David) writes: > > >This is the difference between a CEO, who knows little about programming, > >and an actual programmer, who can see the benefits of OpenSTEP. > > I'm not letting this one just go by, NFW. > > John Warnock solved the hidden-surface problem. John Warnock conceived, > developed and refined the Postscript language and adobe's postscript > interpreter. John Warnock is a genius. He is right up there with Don > Knuth, Alan Turing, and John Von Neumann. > > John Warnock's programming skill is several orders of magnitude > beyond that of anyone who's ever griped about him in this newsgroup. > > -jcr He could be Mother Fucking Theresa for all I care. He should just shut-up and port the damn apps. Illustrator is already done for NeXTSTEP, dust off the disks and release it. As for the other apps, if his developers are all so tired after porting everything to Windows, why don't they go out and buy Tiffany, Paste-Up and a plethora of other NeXTSTEP apps and repackage them as Adobe apps for Rhapsody? Hoops -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: haze@sailfish.exis.net (Jason Jenkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: rz and tip??? Date: 15 Mar 1997 15:58:14 GMT Organization: Exis Net Inc Message-ID: <5gegum$3uk@grouper.exis.net> A couple of questions: I am the proud new owner of a NextStation (mono, non-turbo, NS3.3) and want to get PPP and OmniWeb, etc up and running. The problem is how can I reliably transfer files from my shell account at my ISP to the next. I figured out how get tip to dial in, but I haven't been able to get rz to work. I downloaded the rzsz package from the peanuts archive to my 286 Minix box and used a DOS floppy to get it to the Next. The question is how do I use it? Also, the Next I got is set up to load from a network and I'm using it as a standalone. I know the command~ then "bsd" thing to start it up, but what do I have to change to aviod doing this every time I power down? I realize that these are probably FAQs, but I've been looking around and haven't found an answer that works. Thanks, Jason
From: jyh@ai.polymtl.ca (Jean-Yves Hervé) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 15 Mar 1997 16:32:53 GMT Organization: GRPR, École Polytechnique de Montréal Distribution: world Message-ID: <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> In article <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com wrote: >If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on Rhapsody. >Period. > Adobe has been doing quite well without the business of NeXT users. Why should your threat bother Adobe and Warnock? -- =================================================================== Jean-Yves Hervé /\ Département de génie électrique \/ e-mail --> jyh@ai.polymtl.ca et génie informatique /\ Ecole Polytechnique \/ Tel. --> (514) 340-5785 Montréal (Québec) /\ Fax. --> (514) 340-5802 CANADA, H3C 3A7 \/ ===================================================================
From: jyh@ai.polymtl.ca (Jean-Yves Hervé) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 15 Mar 1997 16:41:47 GMT Organization: GRPR, École Polytechnique de Montréal Message-ID: <jyh-1503971142040001@10.0.2.15> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> In article <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com>, jon@subsequent.com wrote: >(Of course, I think Warnock's bluffing. Anyone care to check Adobe's >IRS filings to see what percentage of their revenue comes from Mac >software?) But the yellow box is not the Mac, not in the sense of "Mac market" at least. As long as Adobe writes for the MacOS (7.6 and after), it still sells to the Mac market. *Right now*, writing for the yellow box is like writing for the NeXT market, which is definitely not worth Adobe's effort. Companies like Adobe can have legitimate concerns whether Apple will survive. If Apple goes belly up, Adobe will still be able to sell MacOS versions of its software to the existing Mac market for years to come, but any development efforts on the yellow box would be completely wasted. I think that large companies like MS, Adobe, Macromedia, Corel, and even Claris, will adopt a kind of "wait and see" (deathwatch if you want) attitude. They will have programmers playing around with OpenStep, but won't commit to any port to the yellow box. Well, IMHO that is. regards. j-y hervé -- =================================================================== Jean-Yves Hervé /\ Département de génie électrique \/ e-mail --> jyh@ai.polymtl.ca et génie informatique /\ Ecole Polytechnique \/ Tel. --> (514) 340-5785 Montréal (Québec) /\ Fax. --> (514) 340-5802 CANADA, H3C 3A7 \/ ===================================================================
From: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu (Brian K. Meadows) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 4.0 to 4.1 upgrade results in SendMail meltdown Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:10:37 GMT Organization: Applied Chaos Lab Message-ID: <332b2c51.322971364@news.gatech.edu> 4.0 to 4.1 upgrade results in SendMail meltdown During the last upgrade to OpenStep 4.1 for Intel hardware, our mail service begin to fail. The installation went fine, but in no time we begin to see a number anomalies in the transmission and reception of email. Incoming messages were either bounced back, delayed days before being received, or worse the message would be lost at our server. It appeared to the outside that mail was being received but in reality we never got the message from the spool file. We spent a good bit of time checking the external network (router, switch, nameserver, gateway…you get the idea). Finally, I had to punt and reinstall OpenStep 4.0. Things are back to normal so it must be the upgrade. I've looked over the news groups for awhile and haven't spotted anyone with a similar problem. I hoped my post might generate some ideas. Thanks for any and all help, Brian Meadows P.S. As a personal note, I am disappointed in Next for not supporting the upgrade. I was informed that Next charges 150 $/hr to debug sendmail problems. Even Microsoft supports their OS upgrades for 30 days. ______________________________________ Brian K. Meadows Applied Chaos Laboratory School of Physics Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, GA 30332-0430 phone: (404) 894-1448 fax: (404) 894-9958 email: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu WWW: http://acl.gatech.edu ______________________________________
From: kjNOSPAMray@ix.netcom.com (Ray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:20:24 -0800 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <kjNOSPAMray-ya023480001503971020240001@nntp.ix.netcom.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> <tbrown-1403972238490001@ppp102.dialup.cmh.netset.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <tbrown-1403972238490001@ppp102.dialup.cmh.netset.com>, tbrown@netset.com (Ted Brown) wrote: > In article <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com>, jon@subsequent.com wrote: > >The main catch is all those Plug-Ins and extensions that work with > >Adobe's > >programs. People have invested a lot of money in those. The API is > >public, but even if Tiffany included support for the API, would anyone > >port their extensions to Rhapsody if Adobe doesn't go? > I don't know the specifics about Adobe's Plug-in API, but it could be > possible for a native Rhapsody program to load a PPC plug-in and run it (I > don't think that Plug-in's have full access to the MacOS). That would > mean that a plug-in wouldn't have to be ported to Rhapsody. Plug-ins would have to be recompiled to work in the yellow box, because not only are the OS services different, but process model and runtime will be different as well (probably). On the other hand, OpenStep apps can do plug-ins MUCH easier than blue apps can, based on the objC runtime. Also, current OpenStep apps can make available "services". In any application, you can select text or graphics, choose a service from the menu, and the app providing the service is automagically called with that data to perform some operation. It's not scriptable like AppleScript, but maybe a future OpenStep will have scripting linked in with these services. // ---- // --- email is k j r a y at ix.netcom.com ---------- Check out: <http://www.devworld.apple.com/> --------- <http://www.devtools.apple.com/> ---------- <http://www.evangelist.macaddict.com/> ----------- <http://www.solutions.apple.com/listadmin> --- ---
From: Jonathan Hendry <jon@subsequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:29:47 -0500 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <332AF8AB.193A@subsequent.com> References: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lawson English wrote: > > >Robb Lincoln wrote: > > > >> Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... > >> Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. > > > >He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: > >Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help > >'pay for the ports'. > > > >He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and > >expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. > > > >He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to > >make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money. > > > > Which merely proves one of my original points about how DPS is > *automatically* a bad thing for Apple: > > it makes Apple dependent on another company for THE essential core of its > operating system. No, it doesn't. > It's the GUI that makes a Mac a Mac and its the graphics engine that makes > the GUI (or enhancements thereof possible). No, it isn't. 99.999% of the Mac UI could be implemented without Quickdraw. The entire Macintosh user experience could be duplicated using Postscript or Windows GDI. > By committing to DPS, Apple makes themselves vulnerable to every whim of > Adobe, as you yourself just pointed out. No, it doesn't. I never said such a ploy would actually work. Warnock might just be feeling cocky - this doesn't necessarily mean he's got a leg to stand on.
From: krgue@nps.navy.mil (Kevin R Gue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: 14 Mar 1997 16:21:43 GMT Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA Message-ID: <5gbtun$g52@nps.navy.mil> References: <19970314010101.UAA04249@ladder01.news.aol.com> I received a return call from the Lighthouse folks this week. The word was this: - Lighthouse will *not* port the Academic bundle to Openstep for Solaris - They *may* port individual components to Openstep for Solaris (Concurrence, Diagram, etc.) - My caller gave no dates or guarantees. --Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin R. Gue, Ph.D. | krgue@nps.navy.mil Department of Systems Management | Tel: (408) 656-4299 Naval Postgraduate School | Fax: (408) 656-3407 Monterey, CA 93943 | http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~krgue ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mattj@invisix.com Subject: OmniWeb filling up hard drive Message-ID: <3f7cd$e2f3a.30@news.goldengate.net> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 20:47:58 GMT After web browsing for about four hours, my Workspace says my hard drive has no space left on it. I've used the "Flush Cache" button in OmniWeb, but that seems to just blank out the files that are already there. I have to logoff, and restart the computer to clear everything out and reclaim the disk space. Is there any limits I can set to prevent this from happening? I'm using OmniWeb 2.1.2 on a turbo color station with 32MB RAM and 250MB HD with 42MB free. (Isn't there a new version of Omniweb, too?) Thanks. Please repsond in e-mail. -- MATT | mailto:mattj@invisix.com NeXTMail Ok jurcich | http://www.invisix.com "You know, BA, with a pair of pliers and a little time, you can fix anything except dinner."
From: embuck@yin.mcleod.net (Erik M. Buck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 16 Mar 1997 00:14:08 GMT Organization: Another Netscape News Server User Message-ID: <5gfe0g$a8s1@news.mcleodusa.net> References: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156> Cc: english@primenet.com Postscipt is an open standard. Apple could re-implement it themselves or use a variant of ghostscript or whatever. It just makes sense to license from Adobe because it works and it is done.
From: jayfar@netaxs.com (Jay Farrell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 19:38:32 -0500 Organization: Jayfar's Original Virtual Macintosh Message-ID: <jayfar-1503971938320001@downtown1-4.slip.netaxs.com> References: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156> In article <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156>, "Lawson English" <english@primenet.com> wrote: | >Robb Lincoln wrote: | > | >> Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... | >> Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. | > | >He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: | >Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help | >'pay for the ports'. | > | >He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and | >expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. | > | >He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to | >make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money. | > | | Which merely proves one of my original points about how DPS is | *automatically* a bad thing for Apple: | | it makes Apple dependent on another company for THE essential core of its | operating system. | | It's the GUI that makes a Mac a Mac and its the graphics engine that makes | the GUI (or enhancements thereof possible). | | By committing to DPS, Apple makes themselves vulnerable to every whim of | Adobe, as you yourself just pointed out. It seems as though Adobe is finally trying to take their revenge for TrueType. The primary purpose of TrueType, when Apple created it, was to not be beholden to Adobe, whose license fees were more than Apple wanted to pay. Bet Adobe wasn't too happy that TrueType ended up in windoze as well. Cheers, Jayfar -- Jay Farrell Jayfar's Original Virtual Macintosh jayfar@netaxs.com * Now Updated Daily * Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA <URL:http://www.netaxs.com/~jayfar/>
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax!!! Date: 16 Mar 1997 03:35:00 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <5gfpp4$o9s@news2.cais.com> References: <01bc2f68$48789ea0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> <5g8ubj$ktq@news4.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <5g8ubj$ktq@news4.digex.net> There was a typo in that e-mail address. The correct one is: nxfax@bandw.com -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:30:42 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-1503972330420001@38.detroit-003.mi.dial-access.att.net> References: <jcr.858341775@idiom.com> <AF4EFD41-2B3A8@207.103.11.245> > >John Warnock's programming skill is several orders of magnitude > >beyond that of anyone who's ever griped about him in this newsgroup. > > That may be, but I bet I could write a Mac program that would crash just as much as Illustrator or PageMaker, though he probably didn't program either of these, and make a hell of a lot less money doing it. Mitch
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From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 20:43:47 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <332B7A81.3E0F@earthlink.net> References: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156> <332AF8AB.193A@subsequent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > By committing to DPS, Apple makes themselves vulnerable to every whim of > Adobe, as you yourself just pointed out. NeXT seemed to get along OK with Adobe and they had much fewer users.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy From: petrich@netcom.com (Loren Petrich) Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <petrichE74IGp.KJy@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> <tbrown-1403972238490001@ppp102.dialup.cmh.netset.com> <kjNOSPAMray-ya023480001503971020240001@nntp.ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 06:38:48 GMT Sender: petrich@netcom6.netcom.com In article <kjNOSPAMray-ya023480001503971020240001@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, Ray <kjNOSPAMray@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Also, current OpenStep apps can make available "services". In any application, >you can select text or graphics, choose a service from the menu, and >the app providing the service is automagically called with that data >to perform some operation. It's not scriptable like AppleScript, but >maybe a future OpenStep will have scripting linked in with these services. This seems a lot like Amiga/BeOS "datatypes". Is that a fair comparison? What the "datatypes" facility offers is using plug-ins to translate to and from a wide variety of data formats, such as different image formats. In this way, a writer of an image editor need not be concerned about the details of reading and writing of various image formats, but only with those of some generic formats (black/white, grayscale, index, RGB color, CMYK color, RGB + alpha channel, etc.) -- Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh petrich@netcom.com And a fast train My home page: http://www.webcom.com/petrich/home.html Mirrored at: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/pe/petrich/home.html
From: publicist@meetmeonline.com (MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: white box Apache 1.2b? Date: 16 Mar 1997 08:22:48 GMT Organization: MeetMeOnline <a zerologic company> Message-ID: <publicist-1603970225350001@thebook.on-demand.com> url: http://www.meetmeonline.com/ Hello, Where might I be able to acquire a binary or .pkg for Apache 1.2b7? I'm using NeXTStep 3.3 for Intel. TIA! Michael. -- Meet a friend, Meet a lover, Meet another... MeetMe at http://www.meetmeonline.com/
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970316.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970309.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970302.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 16 Mar 1997 02:00:00 -0700 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703160631.BAA08421@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 477cf7d75f9daa1552f707e49622b487 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 01:31:07 -0500 Subject: Re: TickleServices Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 477cf7d75f9daa1552f707e49622b487 - Responding To: biesingert@asme.org Original Date: 14 Mar 1997 17:46:20 GMT > Trying to get Fiend into the LaunchPath as suggestion in > the manual; unfortunately, the documentation of TickleServices > does not give a hint on how to modify Workspace/Add To LaunchPaths select Fiend.app in WM goto the Service/Workspace/Add to LaunchPaths that should add Fiend to the launchPaths for you you should not need to modify TickleServices to do this TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703160634.BAA08439@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 127e228bdb87a4ba6cb459ed545ab77d - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 01:34:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Home Directory Icons Lost Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 127e228bdb87a4ba6cb459ed545ab77d - Responding To: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Original Date: 14 Mar 1997 18:44:55 GMT Message-ID: 127e228bdb87a4ba6cb459ed545ab77d - > I encountered a problem that some home directories are not shown > with a home directory icon but a normal folder icon instead. you probably have turned on 'large file system' under Preferences.app TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help: Open Sesame service dosen't work Date: 16 Mar 1997 09:37:02 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Message-ID: <5ggevu$m2u@news.ccit.arizona.edu> I just upgraded my system from 3.3 to 4.1 two days ago. In the beginning, everything seems working well for me, however, without any reason (at least I don't know), suddenly I can not use the service of Open Sesame anymore. I can still access it if I login either as root or as me, but it does not work for my own account (all the menu items are dimmed). Does anyone know the reason? BTW, I've also found that Thinner.app is not working under 4.1. Does anyone know of a workaround of this? TIA Yuwen Cheng yucheng@math.arizona.edu -- ---------------- Yuwen Cheng University of Arizona, Math yucheng@math.arizona.edu
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From: samu@*remove_this_to_e-mail_me*usa.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: 16 Mar 1997 21:07:03 +0200 Organization: ex Message-ID: <5ghgcn$kq5@vuokko.uta.fi> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> <jyh-1503971142040001@10.0.2.15> Jean-Yves Hervé <jyh@ai.polymtl.ca> wrote: >Companies like Adobe can have legitimate concerns whether Apple will >survive. If Apple goes belly up, Adobe will still be able to sell MacOS >versions of its software to the existing Mac market for years to come, but >any development efforts on the yellow box would be completely wasted. I >think that large companies like MS, Adobe, Macromedia, Corel, and even >Claris, will adopt a kind of "wait and see" (deathwatch if you want) >attitude. They will have programmers playing around with OpenStep, but >won't commit to any port to the yellow box. Well, IMHO that is. This is just what I've been trying to reason in another thread. While I don't like or want to see this happen, I think Adobe's attitude in regards to porting is a serious sign of trouble ahead, EVEN if it's only throwing some weight around. I'm quite sure this won't be the last announcement like this (even if Adobe will probably publicly round off their comments). I'm stiff scared when thinking that the major Apple developeres (those that are needed to convert people to Rhapsody) won't take the effort of learning the new API and porting their software clean to Rhapsody. If this happens, well.... I don't see a bright future for Apple (and will probably find another profession to work in myself :) Regards, Samu Mielonen -- Copyright 1996 Samu Mielonen. All rights reserved. <samu at usa dot net> Unsolicited advertising sent to my e-mail addresses is unauthorized use of my computer equipment as well as a form of mail harassment. A charge of $1000 will be applied to senders of such messages. News headers have been modified.
From: lph@sei.cmu.edu (Larry Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Samba port for NS 3.3 Date: 16 Mar 1997 20:49:54 GMT Organization: Software Engineering Institute Message-ID: <5ghmdi$4ts@news.sei.cmu.edu> Sorry if this is a FAQ. Thought I'd just check before looking at the current Samba distribution. Any porting experiences welcome. Thanks. -- Larry Howard Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon University lph@sei.cmu.edu (NeXTmail/MIME) (412) 268-6397
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703161836.NAA03718@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 3b841688bc70053950046cbac48554d2 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:36:06 -0500 Subject: Re: OmniWeb filling up hard drive Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 3b841688bc70053950046cbac48554d2 - Responding To: mattj@invisix.com Original Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 20:47:58 GMT Message-ID: 3b841688bc70053950046cbac48554d2 - > I'm using OmniWeb 2.1.2 on a turbo color station with 32MB RAM and > 250MB HD with 42MB free. (Isn't there a new version of Omniweb, > too?) There sure is, but I don't know if it will be any better for you: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.N.tar.gz TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703162015.PAA04540@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: d9552e73c3178ee01b3e78eccc87c81a - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 15:15:14 -0500 Subject: Re: Two Column Menu for Services? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: d9552e73c3178ee01b3e78eccc87c81a - Responding To: biesingert@asme.org Original Date: 14 Mar 1997 11:06:45 GMT > Does anybody out there know how to handle a > Services Menu that has become too long i.e. > display it in two columns? What else could I do > when the lower part cannot be displayed within > the screen area? wow... yet another short reply that turned into a longer reply that turned into a shell script...... yes, you can disable the services you do not want in Preferences.app however, that does not help if you have services you want to keep but need to trim the services menu I may be able to provide some help with that, if you have the developer's tools (actually just 'segedit'). PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK Basically, there are TWO ways in which services are defined 1) inside the executable (aka "The old evil way") 2) in a plaintext file within the app-wrapper called 'services' (strangely enough! ;-) To change #1 you need segedit. To change #2 you do not (just a text editor will do). I have written a script (surprise surprise) that will lead you through the process (either way). The script require segedit (but if you don't have segedit you don't really need the script, since you can only edit the #2 apps and can do that with Edit.app. Using the script, you will be able to change the "Menu Item:" within the services information. For example, Webster.app has this definition: Message: defineWord Port: Webster Send Type: NeXT plain ascii pasteboard type Menu Item: Define in Webster KeyEquivalent: = Which is nice and all, but why should "Define in Webster" get a WHOLE LINE in your services 1st sub-menu? (other apps are like this too... Quotations, /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app is another) So what I've done is change the apps that have just one or two entries to all go under a submenu /Services/Apps. This saves me a lot of space. For example, I changed Webster to be Menu Item: Apps/Define in Webster (compare that line with the one above) Now I get to keep Webster's service, but it isn't taking up a whole submenu all by itself. The script I've written allows you to change the services definition (provided you have write permissions, of course), and will do all the 'segedit' stuff for you (or lead you through the 'services' file too). You probably won't even know if you are dealing with the hard, old evil way or the nice new way. The script is called 'hack-services' (I was going to give it a more UNIX name like 'hksrv' but decided not to). You use it like this: hack-services /NextApps/Webster.app/Webster or to do more than one at a time (successively): hack-services /NextApps/Webster.app/Webster /LocalApps/Fiend.app/Fiend The script is available via email. Send me an email message with the SUBJECT send-mime hack-services or get the file directly from http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/hack-services keep in mind I wrote this script rather quickly, and it seems to work perfectly, meaning that I have no idea what bugs are there. Use at your own risk yadda yadda datta datta datta datta dum. If you need help with this, drop me a line. Tj "please don't take my commandline away" Luoma -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703161833.NAA03680@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 9d59b9f049867e5321afc0ce7124c515 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:32:45 -0500 Subject: Re: HELP: rz and tip??? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 9d59b9f049867e5321afc0ce7124c515 - Responding To: haze@sailfish.exis.net (Jason Jenkins) Original Date: 15 Mar 1997 15:58:14 GMT Message-ID: 9d59b9f049867e5321afc0ce7124c515 - > Also, the Next I got is set up to load from a network and I'm using > it as a standalone. I know the command~ then "bsd" thing to start > it up, but what do I have to change to aviod doing this every time > I power down? It is often best to put separate questions in separate posts, so people will see them (also people will be able to see using followups if it has been answered already). The answer to this part is to go to the ROM monitor (where you type 'bsd' now) and type 'p' to set the preferences. You will see the first (I think) is the boot setting, which is set to 'en' (for ethernet network perhaps?) Anyway, change it to 'sd' and leave the rest as they are. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Home Directory Icons Lost Date: 17 Mar 1997 05:25:38 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc3294$109ffbc0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> References: 127e228bdb87a4ba6cb459ed545ab77d - <199703160634.BAA08439@kira.peak.org> Yeah, it is solved now. Any reasons behind this on why this happens? Michael
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace Problem Date: 17 Mar 1997 05:27:39 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc3294$58f178e0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> References: <01bc30a5$3d89a820$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> <5gcs7k$mjm@news1.ucsd.edu> It doesn't seems to be this problem. The required .BackO are there and Fiend can use them without problem. Michael
From: gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 17 Mar 1997 12:33:28 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> There are a few nextstep apps that make themselves or others the active window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver (activating Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. Of course, while the app is starting up I have started typing in another window, resulting in a random stream of characters suddenly being diverted into the activated app, with at best a series of error bells and at worst all kind of unintended action. Is there any UI guideline that this should NOT happen, and (beter still) is there any way to turn it OFF? Geert Jan van Oldenborgh -- work: oldenbor@knmi.nl else: gjvo@xs4all.nl web: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gjvo
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC4.1:Latest patches? Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:19:34 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E76voq.326@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> In article <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: > I remember that someone (was it Ian?) said there was a patch to > 4.1, that brought it up to 4.1.1. Where do I find it? On Insignia's > site I see Nextspc4.1p1.Z, does that update 4.0->4.1, or is that > the 4.1->4.1.1 update? Nextspc4.1p1.Z is 4.1->4.1p1. It fixes a bug with some winsock ioctls. The only thing it is known to fix is in the notifier app for the bug tracking systen Clarify. (It just so happens that both Insignia, and one of the Insignia's biggest NeXTStep customers both chose clarify - they were dead impressed that we were able to get it all turned round so quickly!) There is a latter more signifigant patch 1001, which takes 4.1->4.1p1001 (ignore the number it just means that it was patch for the customer with issue number 1001, its nothing to do with p1). This is a much larger change which fixes a number of other networking bugs. (particularly Lotus Notes IV, though it may break other things - it's really intended for a customer who needed to run Notes4). Unfortunatly I don't have a copy of 4.1p1001. This is particularly annoying as I need to run NotesIV! It is not available via insignia's ftp site, though it once was. They appear to have "tidied up", and this patch got lost somewhere. If anyone DOES have a copy of p1001 (and the associated winsock.dll) I'd love to get a copy (it only works with licensed versions of 4.1 so I don't think licensing is an issue, but thats just my opinion). $an DISCLAIMER: I no longer have any connection to Insignia (other than being a very unhappy share holder). The above simply relates the situation, as I understand it/remember it.
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to combine 2 floppies? Date: 17 Mar 1997 14:25:45 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <5gjk99$1o9$1@news2.voicenet.com> I've got Sybase 4.1 on 2 floppies, and I want to install it on a cube that is floppyless. I have a color station itting next to it....is there a way (via network or otherwise) to install it on the cube? -Darren
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Samba port for NS 3.3 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:59:58 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970317055735.15039B-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Larry Howard <lph@sei.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: 50dd6256d3028bef3dd2b3251e98f71c - On 16 Mar 1997, Larry Howard wrote: > Sorry if this is a FAQ. Thought I'd just check before looking > at the current Samba distribution. Any porting experiences > welcome. asking an FAQ is not nearly as bad, in my mind, as asking the same FAQ on two separate newsgroups in two separate messages. samba should compile without too much trouble. I have not done it myself but have heard others say so. Only "trick" is you have to make sure you have the config right for your setup. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 17 Mar 1997 16:46:09 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5gjsgh$ah8@shelob.afs.com> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl writes > There are a few nextstep apps that make themselves or others the active > window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver (activating > Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. Of course, while the app is > starting up I have started typing in another window, resulting in a > random stream of characters suddenly being diverted into the activated > app, with at best a series of error bells and at worst all kind of > unintended action. You must _love_ Windows, then. > Is there any UI guideline that this should NOT happen, and (beter still) > is there any way to turn it OFF? It's very un-neighborly, but if an app demands to be made key and active, Workspace complies. No way to turn this off. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Home Directory Icons Lost Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:14:06 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <wn=LjS200iVD45rjEL@andrew.cmu.edu> References: 127e228bdb87a4ba6cb459ed545ab77d - <199703160634.BAA08439@kira.peak.org> <01bc3294$109ffbc0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> In-Reply-To: <01bc3294$109ffbc0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 17-Mar-97 Re: Home Directory Icons Lost by "Michael Chan"@compugrap > Yeah, it is solved now. Any reasons behind this on why this happens? Yes. The Workspace is overenthusiastic about checking the file status [the fstat() system call] for files and directories to provide a very up-to-date display of the filesystem. However, fstat() is a relatively expensive operation to perform over a distributed filesystem like NFS or AFS. Furthermore, if you've got 20,000 users, comparing the path being displayed in a browser to all of those user's home directories is relatively expensive. So NeXT came up with the "large filesystem option" which reduces the amount of non-essential checking that the Workspace does when displaying the filesystem in a browser window. I believe this change was made in response to complaints here at CMU and maybe U-Michigan over NEXTSTEP's performance when using AFS. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: christw@lexis-nexis.com (Christopher C. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 17 Mar 1997 17:27:20 GMT Organization: LEXIS-NEXIS, Dayton OH Message-ID: <5gjuto$d1l@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> References: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156> <jayfar-1503971938320001@downtown1-4.slip.netaxs.com> In article <jayfar-1503971938320001@downtown1-4.slip.netaxs.com>, jayfar@netaxs.com (Jay Farrell) writes: |> It seems as though Adobe is finally trying to take their revenge |> for TrueType. The primary purpose of TrueType, when Apple created |> it, was to not be beholden to Adobe, whose license fees were more |> than Apple wanted to pay. Bet Adobe wasn't too happy that TrueType |> ended up in windoze as well. And the most interesting thing is that once again, MS got useful technology from Apple, in exchange for dreck. MS's original license agreement for Apple's technology (for use in Win1.0) specified that in exchange, MS would release new versions of MS-Word and Multiplan. MS failed to deliver those on time. In exchange for TrueType technology, MS was to deliver to Apple a clone of a postscript interpreter, called TrueImage. It was too buggy to ship. Chris -- Speaking only for myself, of course. Chris Wood christw@lexis-nexis.com cats@CFAnet.com
From: lph@sei.cmu.edu (Larry Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Samba and Rumba and CAPer...Oh My! Date: 17 Mar 1997 18:02:06 GMT Organization: Software Engineering Institute Message-ID: <5gk0uu$g1c@news.sei.cmu.edu> My home desktop LAN has three boxes: a NeXTstation running NS3.3 a PowerMac running MacOS 7.5.5 a Pentium laptop running Windows 95 (w/PC Card Ethernet Adapter) (I also have a 68030 Mac running MacOS 7.5.5 and Vicom Internet Gateway providing routing services to the Internet via a PPP dialup into work...but that's another story.) My mission was for every box to be able to natively browse the files on every other box for NO money and a MODEST investment of time. Mac to NeXT was made easy thanks to Frank Siegert, et al., porting the Columbia Appletalk Package (CAP) to NS. Cheers to him, and I'll plug his site (www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html). After many travails in keeping NeXT's Appletalk Pkg functioning through 3.3, I kiss it goodbye. PC to NeXT was more challenging, but I kept hearing from Linux-folk about Samba (http://samba.canberra.edu.au/pub/samba/). Got the latest version, hacked it, phutzed with it...it works. So this go me most of the way there. The PC was able to browse the NeXT's file system, but the NeXT had to use a terminal-based, ftp-like program "smbclient". Not good enough. Fortunately, Christian Starkjohann had posted the availability of a Lanmanager client for NS called Rumba, based on smbfs 0.8. Got it... it works fine. Rumba can be obtained from the Peanuts archive. (peanuts.leo.org) So mission accomplished. The Next provides a "nexus" ;') for the file sharing, such that the PC sees the Mac's files mounted remotely on, and exported by, the NeXT, and the Mac sees the PC's files the same way. Before anyone asks, printing services on my LAN are supported by an HP JetDirect ethernet print server, so printing wasn't an issue for me in the use of this software, although printer sharing is addressed by both Samba and CAP. Let's hear it for PD software and NeXT's bundling of NFS with NS, without which none of this would have been possible. -- Larry Howard Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon University lph@sei.cmu.edu (NeXTmail/MIME) (412) 268-6397
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <E76MzK.I4z@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <petrichE74IGp.KJy@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:11:44 GMT In article <petrichE74IGp.KJy@netcom.com> petrich@netcom.com (Loren Petrich) writes: > In article <kjNOSPAMray-ya023480001503971020240001@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, > Ray <kjNOSPAMray@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >Also, current OpenStep apps can make available "services". In any application, > >you can select text or graphics, choose a service from the menu, and > >the app providing the service is automagically called with that data > >to perform some operation. It's not scriptable like AppleScript, but > >maybe a future OpenStep will have scripting linked in with these services. > > This seems a lot like Amiga/BeOS "datatypes". Is that a fair > comparison? What the "datatypes" facility offers is using plug-ins to > translate to and from a wide variety of data formats, such as different > image formats. > THIS kind of services are alos available for OPENSTEP. As far as I know ( and I do no programming) there are five differnt classes of services: The Interapplication sevices described above the filter services which compare with the datatypes the printfilter services which do PostScript postprocessing the spell services which extend the list off available dictonaires the indexing services which full text searching for certain document types -- ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg
From: rangmj@rice.edu (Moon Rang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5fvgla$7nk$1@joe.rice.edu> Control: cancel <5fvgla$7nk$1@joe.rice.edu> Date: 17 Mar 1997 19:08:29 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <5gk4rd$nai$1@joe.rice.edu> cancel
From: Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help with NeXT Names Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:52:54 -0800 Organization: Party of One Message-ID: <332CEA46.6F40@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello I used NS in the 3.2 days, but I have been away for awhile. I am a little confused by the new names for the NeXTStep OS(s). Here is my current understanding of the situation: 1.) OpenStep is a the latest version of NS. It runs on HP's, Sun's Intel and NeXT. Point of confusion: what is OpenStep for NT? And what s OpenStep for Mach? Is this just another name for OS on black? 2.) If my my admittedly weak assumptions are correct above, What the hell is going on with NS 3.3 ? People sell it. Is it obsolete? And are there comatablity issues (I'm sure there are, I am just trying to get an explanation) between NS 3.3 & OS 4.1? 3.) What is the difference between PDO and EOF? (Clueless on this one). I have tried to get an explanation off of the NeXT Site, but I don't think it is organized very well. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Rich Markle >> rmarkle@earthlink.net (310)442-8086
From: danno@mrtc.org (Dan Bigelow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dove Fax software (old stuff) Date: 17 Mar 1997 19:33:53 GMT Organization: Maui Research and Technology Center Message-ID: <5gk6b1$68e$1@kahu.mrtc.org> References: <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> Hi, every-so-often i need to get a fax on my home system, and I have an old dove-fax with a corrupted (or just wrong) DoveFax.pkg... They are no-whereto be found on the net, and without the working software, i'm outta luck. Anyone have a copy of the old Dove Fax software they can send me (attach? - nextmail welcome). Any help or pointers would be appreciated... be well, danno
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:31:05 -0500 Organization: SoftArc Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> In article <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15>, jyh@ai.polymtl.ca (Jean-Yves Hervé) wrote: > Adobe has been doing quite well without the business of NeXT users. Why > should your threat bother Adobe and Warnock? And he'd be nothing but a footnote in computer history if not for Apple users. He has to keep Apple users happy, and with NeXTSTEP being the next Apple OS, that means keeping NeXT people happy too. Maury
From: eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 17 Mar 1997 12:48:10 -0800 Organization: CRL Network Services (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Message-ID: <5gkama$qri@crl.crl.com> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5gjsgh$ah8@shelob.afs.com> >> window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver (activating >> Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. Of course, while the app is >> Is there any UI guideline that this should NOT happen, and (beter still) >> is there any way to turn it OFF? I am pretty sure that you can turn off PopOver notifying Mail.app in the PopOver preferences. There is a box labeled something like app to notify that contains "Mail.app". Just my two cents...HC -- Josh Waltzer and Hans-Christoph Steiner MIME, NeXTMail, SunMail and PlainOldMail accepted
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTMail - Quoting Replies Date: 17 Mar 1997 21:24:37 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc330f$eedb3280$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> How to use the NeXTMail to quote the last message in the reply automatically? Or do we have to do it all manually? Michael Chan
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LAPACK Date: 17 Mar 1997 21:59:24 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gkers$qpd@cocoa.brown.edu> I just got NetLib's LaPack from Walnut Creek. LaPack is a bunch of Linear Algebra subrutines written in ForTran77. I have Absoft's ForTran compiler but I cannot run the make file successfully. Any insite will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Andrew andrew@cfm.brown.edu
From: Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:35:36 -0800 Organization: Party of One Message-ID: <332D1068.976@earthlink.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maury Markowitz wrote: > Why should your threat bother Adobe and Warnock? > And he'd be nothing but a footnote in computer history if not for > Apple users. I agree with this statement. The Photoshop/Mac connection made Adobe. > He has to keep Apple users happy, and with NeXTSTEP being the next > Apple OS, that means keeping NeXT people happy too. Being a NeXT-head myself I would like to agree. But when one looks at the situation, although NeXT technonolgy is superior, we always have been a small, sophisticated community and there really isn't much motivation for Apple to give two hoots what NeXT Users think. They just bought the tech, and will pervert it to give MAC/OS the advantages it doesn't already have: multi-platform portability, multi-threading and protected memory spaces. I would lay odds that after they start gaining marketshare with Rhapsody they start phasing out the NeXTStep/OpenStep portion of Rhapsody altogther. Much in the same way Windows95 is not a real OS, but is merely a stopgap measure until MS can perfect Win NT. There will be a convergence of technology at some point and the real target OS will emerge. -- Rich Markle >> rmarkle@earthlink.net (310)442-8086
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help with NeXT Names Date: 17 Mar 1997 23:48:47 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5gkl8v$gvd@news.next.com> References: <332CEA46.6F40@earthlink.net> FAQ! FAQ! FAQ! Ok, I feel better now... Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> writes > Hello I used NS in the 3.2 days, but I have been away for awhile. I am > a little confused by the new names for the NeXTStep OS(s). Here is my > current understanding of the situation: > > 1.) OpenStep is a the latest version of NS. It runs on HP's, Sun's > Intel and NeXT. Point of confusion: what is OpenStep for NT? And whats > OpenStep for Mach? Is this just another name for OS on black? OPENSTEP for Mach (new name for NEXTSTEP) runs on Sun, Intel, and NeXT. OPENSTEP for Windows runs on Windows NT (and soon on Win95), providing the same programming interface as OPENSTEP for Mach. > 2.) If my my admittedly weak assumptions are correct above, What the > hell is going on with NS 3.3 ? People sell it. Is it obsolete? And > are there comatablity issues (I'm sure there are, I am just trying to > get an explanation) between NS 3.3 & OS 4.1? Not obsolete, just "mature" :-) Actually, 3.3 is a great version of NEXTSTEP, as long as you don't need to run OpenStep based applications. Any applicaton that runs on 3.3 should run on OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. > 3.) What is the difference between PDO and EOF? (Clueless on this one). PDO is a subset of OpenStep that's available for several UNIX platforms (currently Solaris and HP-UX). PDO includes the compiler, runtime environment, and Foundation library. It doesn't include Appkit (the GUI library), nor any applications. EOF is the Enterprise Objects Framework, which provides an object-oriented interface to SQL database (Oracle, Informix, Sybase, etc). > I have tried to get an explanation off of the NeXT Site, but I > don't think it is organized very well. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks in advance. Yeah, I often have trouble finding stuff on there, myself. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:08:25 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <332DF908.4AEE@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl wrote: > > There are a few nextstep apps that make themselves or others the active > window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver (activating > Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. Of course, while the app is starting Yeah, Opener.app really annoys me...can't we have an option for it to stay in the BACKGROUND? That would be SOOO nice. -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:28:35 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <332DFDC1.772A@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189> <webboy-ya02408000R1403970143070001@news.azstarnet.com> <jcr.858341775@idiom.com> <858423677.26839@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hoops@cbc.net wrote: > He could be Mother Fucking Theresa for all I care. He should just > shut-up and port the damn apps. Illustrator is already done for > NeXTSTEP, dust off the disks and release it. As for the other apps, if > his developers are all so tired after porting everything to Windows, why > don't they go out and buy Tiffany, Paste-Up and a plethora of other > NeXTSTEP apps and repackage them as Adobe apps for Rhapsody? LOL! ;) Well said. Some ople look at things in such a narrow perspective. If Adobe rewrites, they have the Win 32 versions DONE! Just include OPENSTEP runtimes... I'm not so sure about this Adobe CEO... -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: olaf@orest.escape.de Subject: Digital Cameras and NeXT Message-ID: <E77I4x.1Bw@orest.escape.de> Sender: olaf@orest.escape.de (Olaf Mueller) Organization: Objective Methods, Inc. Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:24:33 GMT The digital cameras come usually with a special cable (for Mac or PC) and some special software for downloading and display of the pictures. My problem is that I do neither own a Mac nor a PC. Does anyone know of a digital camera which work with a black NeXT cube? I.e. a camera which can transfer data via SCSI or serial port, and uses a data format which is understood by my machine (any format, which the ImageViewer.app can handle)? Any other experiences with digital cameras which I should know of? Regards Olaf
From: jyh@ai.polymtl.ca (Jean-Yves Hervé) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 18 Mar 1997 04:49:59 GMT Organization: GRPR, École Polytechnique de Montréal Distribution: world Message-ID: <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> In article <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230>, maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) wrote: >In article <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15>, jyh@ai.polymtl.ca (Jean-Yves >Hervé) wrote: > >> Adobe has been doing quite well without the business of NeXT users. Why >> should your threat bother Adobe and Warnock? > > And he'd be nothing but a footnote in computer history if not for Apple >users. He has to keep Apple users happy, and with NeXTSTEP being the next >Apple OS, that means keeping NeXT people happy too. > Only if the large majority of Mac users make the switch to Rhapsody. The NeXT team seems to be betting on the fact that Mac users are mindless followers of Apple. Frankly, if I had ever wanted a bloody NeXT box, I would have bought one! So, if everything I am interested in running is going to be running on top (or is it within?) the blue box, what should be my motivation for switching from Tempo/Allegro to Rhapsody? Basically, what we have been hearing from the NeXT folks and their groupies is that virtually every single piece of OS software on the Mac side was crap and that there was something better in NeXT's bag of tricks (and it is not over yet: I am ready to bet that, by the time Rhapsody gets out, QuickDraw3D will by history too). What we are being promised is the NeXT OS running on a PowerPC and the MacOS running in a virtual machine next to it. But, since Avie and his pals want to be nice with us Mac wusses, we may get a single menu bar and right-side scroll bars, if we ask politely for it. So, let me ask again the question: why move from Tempo/Allegro to Rhapsody? Here are the possible answers I can think of. None of them cut it for me. (1) Because Rhapsody will have PMT, protected memory, "all the features of a True (TM) modern operating system". Well, I for one don't care that much for PMT. As for the rest, the last time I looked at a NeXT box, years back, it had all that. I did not buy one back then. Can't see why I should do so now or 2 years from now. (2) Because if we don't, then Apple will die, and we will all be sad. This argument might have worked for me a few years back. Now, I see that Apple is just a bunch of shareholders and a management team. Nothing against the shareholders, but I am not buying a computer or OS just to improve their profits. (3) Because it is where the Mac is headed and if Rhapsody flops, it is the end of the Mac. For me, the Mac is Tempo/Allegro. Whatever is running in the blue box might be that too, but it is not anything *more*. Anyway, Rhapsody *is* the end of the Mac as we know it, whether it succeeds or not, and whether it is a good thing or not that the Mac is coming to an end. Rhapsody is about as much a Mac as a latter day "Mustang" is a continuation of the original. Rhapsody is a new thing, no matter what it is called, and the only question is whether we like this new thing or not. (4) Because if Rhapsody flops, we will all have to switch to Wintel. There are still alternatives to Wintel. Namely the Unix world, and if I really have to go for a Unix box, I would rather choose an SGI than Rhapsody. At least, it does not pretend to be what it is not (a Mac). (5) Rhapsody is a kick ass OS that will take the world by storm. Whatever. In all likelyhood, 2 years from now, only a fraction of what is left of Mac users will switch to Rhapsody (I would not count on current Wintel users at first). So, it is all a matter of how big a fraction of how big a remaining market. You can't help if Adobe, Corel, Macromedia, and others are checking the odds before making any kind of commitment. All this is a matter of opinion. If you think that Rhapsody, as it has been presented, is great, then good for you. I for one hope that enough software biggies such as Adobe ostensibly drag their feet before porting their stuff to Rhapsody unless some parts of what we call the MacOS today make their way to the yellow box (of course, I do not count on Adobe to ask for OpenDoc to be ported to the yellow box). Some may call that perverting the yellow box. Well, then, I am for perversion all the way. :-) regards, j-y hervé [eagerly waiting for Tempo and Allegro, and the next two years of Mac OS experience] -- =================================================================== Jean-Yves Hervé /\ Département de génie électrique \/ e-mail --> jyh@ai.polymtl.ca et génie informatique /\ Ecole Polytechnique \/ Tel. --> (514) 340-5785 Montréal (Québec) /\ Fax. --> (514) 340-5802 CANADA, H3C 3A7 \/ ===================================================================
From: stop@spam.com (see sig for my real address) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTMail - Quoting Replies Date: 18 Mar 1997 06:44:47 GMT Organization: Videotron Communications Ltd. (V-WAVE) Message-ID: <5gldkv$a5s10@crash.videotron.ab.ca> References: <01bc330f$eedb3280$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> In-Reply-To: <01bc330f$eedb3280$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> On 03/17/97, "Michael Chan" wrote: >How to use the NeXTMail to quote the last message in the reply >automatically? Or do we have to do it all manually? MessageQuoter.bundle does this elegantly for Mail 3.3. It adds a "Quote Message" button to the compose window. See your local NeXT archive, or I'll send it by NXMail if you can't find it. -- -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. Network manager, Web manager, postmaster gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Want to print selection from Edit Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:32:40 -0500 Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <332C0488.2306@worldbank.org> References: <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Finton wrote: > I know how to open a second window, paste the selection, > save it, and then print it. I want an easier way. > This is for when you're working on a huge file, and just > want to print out one or two screens of it. Here's something I've often wished was a standard part of the UI: each print panel, in addition to the page range choices, should have a 'selection' choice so that if something is selected, I could print just that. Just like Terminal.app has. Something Rhapsody UI designers might want to think about... -- Stefano Pagiola 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer
From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 18 Mar 1997 10:25:08 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <5glqi4$s8u@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl wrote: > There are a few nextstep apps that make themselves or others the active > window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver (activating > Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. Of course, while the app is starting > up I have started typing in another window, resulting in a random stream of > characters suddenly being diverted into the activated app, with at best a > series of error bells and at worst all kind of unintended action. Alexandra does this? I mean, I'm one of the programmers and I know for sure that we didn't implement anything that makes Alexandra become active without explicit request from the user. Or am I missing a point here? regards, erik -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik Dörnenburg OBJECT FACTORY Gesellschaft für Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH http://www.object-factory.com
From: jack@radionics.com (Jack Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:22:06 -0500 Organization: RSA Distribution: world Message-ID: <jack-ya023480001803971122060001@news.tiac.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In the midst of all the discussion, can anyone tell me Warnock's email address (or something equivalent to leadership@apple.com)? I have some opinions I'd like to tell him/them directly. xxx hj xxx
From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Digital Cameras and NeXT Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:54:52 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <858707692.20276.0@mozart.onestep.co.uk> References: <E77I4x.1Bw@orest.escape.de> In article <E77I4x.1Bw@orest.escape.de> olaf@orest.escape.de writes: > The digital cameras come usually with a special cable (for Mac or PC) and some > special software for downloading and display of the pictures. > My problem is that I do neither own a Mac nor a PC. > Does anyone know of a digital camera which work with a black NeXT cube? I.e. a > camera which can transfer data via SCSI or serial port, and uses a data format > which is understood by my machine (any format, which the ImageViewer.app can > handle)? > Any other experiences with digital cameras which I should know of? > Hi, Most of the digital cameras that are aimed at the consumer/low end market come with serial cables or PCMCIA cards. The images are encoded using proprietary colour compression techniques which the manufacturers are loath to give out. Some of the high spec models ($5,000+) come with Serial, SCSI and/or PCMCIA and do offer raw images which have not been compressed/encoded but you have to write the software to capture and encapsulate the image in an appropriate format such as tiff. We developed software for the Kodak DC40/50 models but the source libraries changed twice whilst we were doing the work and as our target deployment machines were over 50% OPENSTEP/NT we decided to use the NT supplied software. --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc | UK phone: 01702 426400 | Vendors of NS/OS 351 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | MCCAs, Hardware Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | Apps, Networks Essex | | ISDN, Training SS7 2BT | Email: david@onestep.co.uk | Maintenance England | (NeXTMail/MIME ok) | and Support
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: 18 Mar 1997 17:48:34 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> I've just made the switch to Openstep and I'm experiencing odd behavior in Mail 4.1. Just wondering if anyone out there has experienced the same... When composing messages, my signature gets wiped out if I select "Rich Text" or "Mime" mail. Likewise, if I have "Reply in same format" set in Mail's preferences, when I press the "Reply To" button my signature gets wiped out, and it text messages always get replied to in NeXTMail. Finally, I have both .signature and .signature.rtf files and only the ..signature file seems to get recognized by Mail. BTW, I have EnhanceMail (2.0b5). Anyone else notice this? -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem Solved (sort of): The service of Open Sesame does not work Date: 18 Mar 1997 17:37:17 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Message-ID: <5gmjsd$nmm@news.ccit.arizona.edu> I posted the following questions couple days ago to csns. But got no response so far. So I decided to do some tests. After repeated creating/deleting new accounts and meanwhile adding applications to the dock, I finally got the following STRANGE solution. SYMPTOM: The services of Open Sesame and TeXview are all dimmed. SOLUTION: It was caused by putting TeXmenu icon onto OPENSTEP 4.1 dock. To get those services back, just remove TeXmenu from the dock and wait for a couple seconds. REASON: Unknown. It has never happened before under 3.3. So, maybe, someone out there can offer a reasonable explanation. BTW, the troubled TeXmenu is pre5.0 ------Original post----- > I just upgraded my system from 3.3 to 4.1 two days ago. In the > beginning, everything seems working well for me, however, without any > reason (at least I don't know), suddenly I can not use the service of > Open Sesame anymore. I can still access it if I login either as root or > as me, but it does not work for my own account (all the menu items are > dimmed). Does anyone know the reason? > > BTW, I've also found that Thinner.app is not working under 4.1. Does > anyone know of a workaround of this? -- ---------------- Yuwen Cheng University of Arizona, Math yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 18 Mar 1997 17:47:56 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gmkgd$859$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> <jack-ya023480001803971122060001@news.tiac.net> Cc: jack@radionics.com In <jack-ya023480001803971122060001@news.tiac.net> Jack Miller wrote: > In the midst of all the discussion, can anyone tell me Warnock's email > address (or something equivalent to leadership@apple.com)? I have some > opinions I'd like to tell him/them directly. > > xxx hj xxx > warnock@adobe.com seemed to work for me. I didn't get a reply, but I also didn't get a bounce. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: "FJ van Wingerde" <fj@medg.lcs.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 18 Mar 97 13:45:52 +0000 Organization: Harvard University University Information Systems Message-ID: <AF544D19-1811FE6@134.174.31.187> References: <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.harvard.edu/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.harvard.edu/comp.sys.mac.advocacy On Tue, Mar 18, 1997 4:49 AM, Jean-Yves Hervé <mailto:jyh@ai.polymtl.ca> wrote: > So, let me ask again the question: why move from Tempo/Allegro to Rhapsody? > Here are the possible answers I can think of. None of them cut it for me. > > (1) Because Rhapsody will have PMT, protected memory, "all the features of > a True (TM) modern operating system". > > Well, I for one don't care that much for PMT. As for the rest, the last > time I looked at a NeXT box, years back, it had all that. I did not buy > one back then. Can't see why I should do so now or 2 years from now. Well, nobody can speak for you, but I'd like to try to list a very important reason for me, which is closely linked to the reason that doesn't cut it for you here: PMT & Memory Protection. I use my computer to communicate electronically. A lot. I am constantly telnetting, surfing, mailing, reading and printing. And eventhough my apps seem to be perfectly well behaved cooperatively, there are too many instances of dead time where one app or service is collecting its head and blocking all input or making characters drop. Coming from a UNIX background - my first GUI was fwm - bad input queues and machine locking on user input because of bad threading/context-switching is really unacceptable on something I have to enter the new millenium with. It is just plain antiquated and creates a frustrating exprience. Heavy duty networking also always introduces a degree of instability because you can't really predict what on earth is out on the network now, with its DNS lookups and timeouts and huge gifs and big code. It would be really nice if all apps omnisciently would catch all the problems gracefully while giving each-other equal time to the resources, but they don't, and they sometimes crash, and the fact that they take the machine down with them is also unacceptable in an increasingly networked world. I am now a Mac user, my workhorse is an 8100/100 for which I went out and bought 7.6 and now think loving thoughts to every day. If you can look at the application sending this response, you might get an inkling that I am by no means an Apple basher - hell, my computer *listens* to me these days, and is pretty stable. But coming where I come from, some slow-downs that this machine imposes on me are just ludicrous. I understand thoroughly as a UI person where they came from and how they evolved and were justified at the time, but it is now 1997, and they have to go. I have to much work to do to let them stay. FJ!!
From: DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Improv look-alike Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:30:24 -0700 Organization: RR Message-ID: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Improv had many nice features, such as being able to construct formulas that look like English. May it rest in peace. Of all the spreadsheets out there in 1997, on whatever platform, which is most Improv-like in terms of look and feel?
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LAPACK Date: 18 Mar 1997 20:36:37 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gmucl$pki@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5gkers$qpd@cocoa.brown.edu> In article <5gkers$qpd@cocoa.brown.edu> andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) writes: > I just got NetLib's LaPack from Walnut Creek. LaPack is a bunch > of Linear Algebra subrutines written in ForTran77. I have Absoft's > ForTran compiler but I cannot run the make file successfully. > Any insite will be greatly appreciated. I'd suggest that you use octave, which includes a nice user-front end to many (most?) of LAPACK's functions. That is, unless you REALLY like using the raw fortran routines... (-; You can find it at your nearest friendly ftp archive site (like ftp.next.peak.org). -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703181551.KAA08039@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 57066cb5d37040609067b6692dec0ccf - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 10:51:27 -0500 Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 57066cb5d37040609067b6692dec0ccf - Responding To: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Original Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:08:25 -0600 > Yeah, Opener.app really annoys me...can't we have an option for it > to stay in the BACKGROUND? > > That would be SOOO nice. Well, I do most of my unarchiving at the commandline, and it works quite nicely! However, I realize that (among other things) ranks me among the strange, and so I offer this: a) remember that Opener.app is freeware, and your alternative is the commandline b) drop Denise Howard a note (as I've done here) and let her know that you would appreciate a panel or something letting you know it is done, rather than the folder being opened. As it is now, I believe that Opener.app does 'open $dir/.' (where $dir is the directory of the unarchives package) which should be easy enough to change, allow a preference for ["he said without clue one as to how Opener.app is implemented"] c) of course this is NeXTStep, and you have choices. Using TickleServices is one alternative. d/l it and checkout the "Archive" stuff, which can create/unpack stuff too, like Opener, but is more customizable, which is its purpose. Opener.app's main power is that it does one thing really well: opens anything you throw at it. With increased features come increased bugs..... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: postings archived?? Date: 18 Mar 1997 16:32:58 GMT Organization: Hooked Online Services Message-ID: <5gmg3q$kmu$1@its.hooked.net> Are these postings archived somewhere? Thanks for any info. Chris <cchris@hooked.net>
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940AU <-- Note the "A" :) Date: 18 Mar 1997 21:36:23 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5gn1sn$nso@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <publicist-1303971742370001@thebook.on-demand.com> In-Reply-To: <publicist-1303971742370001@thebook.on-demand.com> On 03/13/97, MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson wrote: > I found the Adaptec 2940U drivers at the NeXTansers site but found, much > to my dismay, that it doesn't support the AU. Does anyone know of a > workaround for this? > Yes, I got my machine working thanks to a useful pointer from Paul Lynch... The Adaptec2940AU is not officially supported by the current NEXTSTEP drivers: the driver information table, however, includes the "Auto Detect IDs" for the PCI devices. The ID for the AU is missing: I simply added 0x61789004 to the list and it seems to work fine. However, note that you have to follow the instructions given in NeXTAnswers for installing an updated driver, but with the Floppy driver to be loaded from the Core Drivers disk (image downloadable from ftp.next.com) rather than from the Devices directory (a difference apparently between 3.2 and 3.3). Once it boots you have to patch the driver that has been installed. I hope this gives enough for you to get going? Sorry it's not more clear on this occasion. Best wishes, mmalc. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703181530.KAA07808@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: f7c14064913bb164a9a637ff1ce33c0c - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 10:29:52 -0500 Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: f7c14064913bb164a9a637ff1ce33c0c - Responding To: gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl Original Date: 17 Mar 1997 12:33:28 GMT Message-ID: f7c14064913bb164a9a637ff1ce33c0c - > There are a few nextstep apps that make themselves or others the > active window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver > (activating Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. PopOver does not have to make Mail.app key, I believe. Check the preferences to turn off "Notify Mail.app" or something of that nature. Can't help with the others, although I would say that LaunchBar: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/LaunchBar.1.00.NI.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/LaunchBar.1.00.README is a very nice app that may help you. I love it and use it all day. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 18 Mar 1997 21:46:54 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gn2ge$7dc$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> <5gched$iqe@agate.berkeley.edu> Cc: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu I asked today on the CeBIT fair in Hannover a guy from Adobe about the official line about porting their apps to Rhapsody (not as blue box apps but native OpenStepized). He told me they will do it. Didn't he get the message or is Warnock's talk a bit out of context? -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: jlang@ptbo.igs.net (John Lang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:05:00 -0500 Organization: Zip By's International Message-ID: <AF5489CC9668F96A@ttya1e.ptbo.igs.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> In article <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15>, jyh@ai.polymtl.ca (Jean-Yves Hervé) wrote: >So, let me ask again the question: why move from Tempo/Allegro to Rhapsody? >Here are the possible answers I can think of. None of them cut it for me. I would add to your list: 6) Emagic moves to yellow box: Whiz bang OS isn't just about graphic apps - if emagic moves logic to the yellow box - a good half of the mac music community will follow - the other half if digidesign (usually slower to react) moves over - its hard to imagine these 2 players not being tempted to solve their biggest problem: system stability. 7) Apple ensures that new releases of Claris and a few other personal productivity apps grow mainly in the yellow box. Easy to do with Claris, at any rate. This is essential to convince the large majority of Mac users to use rhapsody over os8. Thinking in terms of high end use only will relegate rhapsody to the position next now occupies: respected but marginal. cheers
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 18 Mar 1997 20:51:30 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5gmv8i$gfd@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> wrote: > Improv had many nice features, such as being able to construct > formulas that look like English. May it rest in peace. Of all > the spreadsheets out there in 1997, on whatever platform, which > is most Improv-like in terms of look and feel? Improv was the first spreadsheet program that I really liked. I hate standard spreadsheet setups. Look for Quantrix, from Lighthouse Design (which is now a part of Sun). They may not talk a lot about being NeXTSTEP developers on their web pages, but Quantrix is just one of several very fine applications that they have for NeXTSTEP. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 18 Mar 1997 23:00:01 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gn6ph$gvs@shelob.afs.com> References: <5gn2ge$7dc$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Frank M. Siegert writes > I asked today on the CeBIT fair in Hannover a guy from Adobe about the > official line about porting their apps to Rhapsody (not as blue box apps > but native OpenStepized). He told me they will do it. You asked a salesman a question at a trade show, and you believed the answer? My goodness, you're ... courageous ... or something ... -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy From: simpson@post.drexel.edu (Homer Simpson) Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <simpson-1803971807490001@ws-3.brookscole.drexel.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:07:49 -0500 References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> Organization: Drexel University In article <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com>, jon@subsequent.com wrote: > Robb Lincoln wrote: > > > Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... > > Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. > > He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: > Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help > 'pay for the ports'. > > He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and > expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. > > He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to > make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money. Sounds familiar. I said this back in January when the DPS vs GX war was going on. It is interesting that everyone seems to be saying "I'll take my business elsewhere.". I think that is great but will it make enough of a difference? Are all these big image processing houses going to make the switch? I think not, they would most likely switch to NT 4.0 and use Adobe for NT. I hope the comments were out of context and that Adobe will port but if they don't that is two major players in the Mac market that have not committed to Rhapsady, Micorsoft being the other. Unfortunately if these two key players do not jump on board and have shipping products within 3 months of Rhapsady's release I am afraid Rhapsady will enjoy the same sales success as NextStep did.
From: deniseh@best.com (Denise Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 18 Mar 1997 23:10:23 GMT Message-ID: <5gn7cv$r1e$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5glqi4$s8u@leonie.object-factory.com> Erik Doernenburg (erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com) wrote: : Alexandra does this? I mean, I'm one of the programmers and I know for sure : that we didn't implement anything that makes Alexandra become active : without explicit request from the user. Or am I missing a point here? Ditto for me and Opener! There are only three ways for Opener to become active, and they all require explicit user action: 1) double-clicking on a file which has an extension recognized by Opener, 2) launching Opener yourself, 3) dropping a file onto Opener's running app icon. Option 1 can be avoided if you really want to, by selecting some other application as the default app for the given file extension. Perhaps I'm missing the same point as Erik about what is meant by "active" and "background". Denise -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 18 Mar 1997 22:37:45 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gn5fp$el6$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> <5gched$iqe@agate.berkeley.edu> <5gn2ge$7dc$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Cc: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net In <5gn2ge$7dc$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Frank M. Siegert wrote: > > I asked today on the CeBIT fair in Hannover a guy from Adobe about the > official line about porting their apps to Rhapsody (not as blue box apps but > native OpenStepized). He told me they will do it. > > Didn't he get the message or is Warnock's talk a bit out of context? > > According to the version of this thread over in comp.sys.next.advocacy, Warnock replied to some of the people who sent him email and said the quote was taken out of context. He's not interested in compromising the yellow box, just making it easier to do a port from blue box to yellow, and not have to do a flat out rewrite. That doesn't exactly fit with what the fair rep said, but it's close enough that there's probably some underlying truth to one or both statements. And I'm glad to hear that that's the case :-) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sybase 4.1 and NS3.3???? Date: 19 Mar 1997 00:25:29 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <5gnbpp$scm$1@news2.voicenet.com> Will they work together? -Darren
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: postings archived?? Date: 18 Mar 1997 23:18:30 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5gn7s6$gfd@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5gmg3q$kmu$1@its.hooked.net> cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) wrote: > Are these postings archived somewhere? Thanks for any info. > > Chris <cchris@hooked.net> Check out: http://www.stepwise.com/ The next newsgroups (except for advocacy) used to be archived there. I'm not sure if they still are. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703181536.KAA07881@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: df1daf56674ef7feca059b7aeae6df0d - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 10:36:33 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXTMail - Quoting Replies Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: df1daf56674ef7feca059b7aeae6df0d - Responding To: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Original Date: 17 Mar 1997 21:24:37 GMT Message-ID: df1daf56674ef7feca059b7aeae6df0d - > How to use the NeXTMail to quote the last message in the reply > automatically? Or do we have to do it all manually? If you have NS3.3 or greater: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/EnhanceMail.2.0b5.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/EnhanceMail.2.0b5.README Else you can use some TickleService or some other mail utility I can't remember the name of... it might be ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/MailHelper.1.3.NIHS.bs.tar.gz let me know if you need a pre3.3 way of doing this and can't find it. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 21:37:05 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <0n=p5Fm00iWVAGKDIs@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> In-Reply-To: <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 18-Mar-97 Re: Tevanian's Task by Jean-Yves Herv@ai.polym > Only if the large majority of Mac users make the switch to Rhapsody. The > NeXT team seems to be betting on the fact that Mac users are mindless > followers of Apple. I don't follow this. NeXT didn't buy Apple; Apple bought NeXT. Apple is making the decisions for what goes on, not "the NeXT team". The most highly placed former NeXT employee is Avie Tevanian, I believe, and he reports to Gil Amelio. Who else would _you_ have chosen to design Apple's new operating system? Can you name anyone who would be more competent than Avie in that area? > Frankly, if I had ever wanted a bloody NeXT box, I would have bought one! > So, if everything I am interested in running is going to be running on top > (or is it within?) the blue box, what should be my motivation for switching > from Tempo/Allegro to Rhapsody? There are several reasons which I could think of, but whether they are enough to convince you is another matter. For some people, especially those who have low memory systems, it's likely that you would be happier with the future Mac OS revisions. 1) Better applications. Given equivalent development efforts, you will get a better, more functional, more robust, more portable, and more maintainable application when your developers write code using Obj-C and OPENSTEP then they would writing code using the development tools currently available for the Mac. 2) A better operating system. The obvious list include PMT, memory protection, working VM, working distributed objects, a far more stable OS, multiuser capabilities, remote display capabilities, better networking, a command line, Unix, a better GUI, better app interoperativity. The majority of Mac users are interested in such things, except possibly a few Taligent, Copland, and/or QD/GX advocates who refuse to acknowledge any of the above as advantages. Tell me, precisely what are you guys looking for from a new OS? I'd love to see you tell us now and then we'll all see how well Rhapsody competes with the Mac OS a year or so from now. > Basically, what we have been hearing from the NeXT folks and their > groupies is that virtually every single piece of OS software on the Mac > side was crap No, not everything Apple has done is crap. AppleTalk was decent, and it's held up much better than NetBIOS and NetBEUI have. The Mac Finder is one of the best GUI environments around, although I'm firmly convinced that the NeXT Workspace is superior. And the Mac OS has been one of the most user-friendly and consistent environments around; heck, the MacOS is better than even NEXTSTEP in this regard sometimes. However, it's still quite true that in other areas, Apple's OS software is completely inferior by any reasonable standards. The lack of PMT, memory protection, and working VM is inexcusable. Anyone with a degree in Computer Science is expected to be able to design and implement a better foundation for an OS then that; at least here at CMU, the first OS course, 15-412, explicitly goes over some of the design flaws of the Mac OS and MS-DOS/Windows, and requires you to do a better job. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help with NeXT Names Date: 19 Mar 1997 03:58:08 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gno8g$iee@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <332CEA46.6F40@earthlink.net> <5gkl8v$gvd@news.next.com> Cc: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM In <5gkl8v$gvd@news.next.com> Mark Bessey wrote: > FAQ! FAQ! FAQ! > > Ok, I feel better now... > > Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> writes some Q & A left out I attempted to answer this when it was asked in c.s.n.misc, before seeing Mark Bessey's reply in c.s.n.s. He _knows_ what he's talking about; so I'll defer to him... -rick
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:12:36 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <332F679E.14E2@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5glqi4$s8u@leonie.object-factory.com> <5gn7cv$r1e$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Denise Howard wrote: > Ditto for me and Opener! There are only three ways for Opener to become > active, and they all require explicit user action: 1) double-clicking on a > file which has an extension recognized by Opener, 2) launching Opener > yourself, 3) dropping a file onto Opener's running app icon. Option 1 can > be avoided if you really want to, by selecting some other application as > the default app for the given file extension. With Opener, I'm talking about when you use OmniWeb, and it hands the .tar.gz file, for instance, off to Opener and then it wants to interupt my web browsing to show me the files are done being decoded. This is highly annoying IMO. > Perhaps I'm missing the same point as Erik about what is meant by "active" > and "background". Again, I would like Opener to NOT want to interupt my web browsing to show me the files are done being decoded - but have the option in preferences, because some people may want the feature... Thanks for listening! Opener is VERY cool! How about a Linux version? :) -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sybase 4.1 and NS3.3???? Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:12:42 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001803972312420001@news.tiac.net> References: <5gnbpp$scm$1@news2.voicenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5gnbpp$scm$1@news2.voicenet.com>, dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) wrote: > Will they work together? Fired it up once out of curiosity. No crashes, but then, I didn't use it for anything. Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: pgp on 4.x Date: 19 Mar 1997 06:14:03 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5go07b$se3@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Mar 1997 06:14:03 GMT I recently recompiled pgp.2.6.2 under OS 4.0 with no problems during compilation, but there is a problem at run time. During key creation or cipherfile decoding, pgp bombs with a message "received signal 11" (i.e., a segmentation fault). Has anyone successfully compiled pgp for 4.x, or does anyone have a clue what might be the problem here? Thanks! -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 19 Mar 1997 00:24:08 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gnbn8$svl@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Cc: jyh@ai.polymtl.ca In <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Jean-Yves Hervé wrote: > > (1) Because Rhapsody will have PMT, protected memory, "all the features of > a True (TM) modern operating system". But there is nothing Mac needs more. I've owned a Mac for 2 months now and have rebooted it due to machine lock ups more times in these two months than I have my NeXT in the 6-7 years I've owned it. Macs are just not reliable. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 19 Mar 1997 08:01:03 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5go6fv$a3c$1@news.xmission.com> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5glqi4$s8u@leonie.object-factory.com> <5gn7cv$r1e$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> <332F679E.14E2@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> wrote: > With Opener, I'm talking about when you use OmniWeb, and it hands the > .tar.gz file, for instance, off to Opener and then it wants to interupt > my web browsing to show me the files are done being decoded. This is > highly annoying IMO. The problem is the last event that occurs in the sequence. 1. Click a link in OmniWeb 2. OmniWeb downloads file 3. OmniWeb calls Opener with the file 4. Opener unpacks the file 5. Opener calls Workspace with the unpacked file 6. WorkSpace opens a new browser on the file (if a directory) or the file itself 7. Workspace becomes key. Since 2-6 can take a while, the typical users goes on browsing. Sunndenly, as you're reading some page somewhere, the Workspace pre-empts you and boom OmniWeb is no longer the app with focus. What is needed is either (1) a way to defer opening of the files in Workspace until we ask for them or (2) a way to have Workspace open a browser window without forcing itself to become key. I'd prefer (2), and I've always felt that Workspace was a bad citizen in this respect. So the question becomes one of finding a way to work around Wrokspace's behavior to make it look like it is doing (2) even though it doesn't want to. I suspect that (1) is all we can do until/unless NeXT/Apple change Workspace's behavior. Hope that's clearer. I went to the trouble of spelling this out, because it annoys me, too, so I want to make sure that the problem is understood by those with the power to do something about it. :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:36:42 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <332FB3AA.17D9@smart.net> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5glqi4$s8u@leonie.object-factory.com> <5gn7cv$r1e$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Denise Howard <deniseh@best.com> > : Alexandra does this? I mean, I'm one of the programmers and I know for sure > : that we didn't implement anything that makes Alexandra become active > : without explicit request from the user. Or am I missing a point here? > > Ditto for me and Opener! There are only three ways for Opener to become > active, and they all require explicit user action: 1) double-clicking on a > file which has an extension recognized by Opener, 2) launching Opener > yourself, 3) dropping a file onto Opener's running app icon. Option 1 can > be avoided if you really want to, by selecting some other application as > the default app for the given file extension. > > Perhaps I'm missing the same point as Erik about what is meant by "active" > and "background". I'm not speaking for him, but I think what he means is, that when you start a process with one of those apps and run it in the background, when it completes the process or when it needs your attention to continue, a message will come to the foreground to make the announcement. --Greg
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTMail - Quoting Replies Date: 19 Mar 1997 09:36:22 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc3445$23351380$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> References: <01bc330f$eedb3280$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> <5gldkv$a5s10@crash.videotron.ab.ca> I used the TickleServices but would someone give me instructions on how to do the quote? There is no help on the procedures on how to quote. When I click my mail, the Quote option is not highlighted even though I have selected the text from the preceding mail and set it as quote String. Michael Chan
From: gjvo@xs4all.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 19 Mar 1997 07:25:29 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <5go4d9$r92$1@news1.xs4all.nl> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5glqi4$s8u@leonie.object-factory.com> My excuses - Alexandra does not do this. I habitually launch Alexandra through LaunchBar, and LaunchBar makes the app it launches key. Off-hand, I do not see a preference option to turn this off. Greetings, Geert Jan van Oldenborgh -- mail: gjvo@xs4all.nl web: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gjvo
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC4.1:Latest patches? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 18 Mar 1997 11:36:16 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs------@gravity.science.gmu.edu (remove dashes to reply) Message-ID: <5glung$6ja@portal.gmu.edu> References: <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> <E76voq.326@cam-ani.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: can we say eww? ;) In article <E76voq.326@cam-ani.co.uk>, Ian Stephenson <ians@cam-ani.co.uk> wrote: >In article <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> >writes: > >Nextspc4.1p1.Z is 4.1->4.1p1. It fixes a bug with some winsock ioctls. The >only thing it is known to fix is in the notifier app for the bug tracking >systen Clarify. (It just so happens that both Insignia, and one of the >Insignia's biggest NeXTStep customers both chose clarify - they were dead >impressed that we were able to get it all turned round so quickly!) > >There is a latter more signifigant patch 1001, which takes 4.1->4.1p1001 >(ignore the number it just means that it was patch for the customer with >issue number 1001, its nothing to do with p1). This is a much larger >change which fixes a number of other networking bugs. (particularly Lotus >Notes IV, though it may break other things - it's really intended for a >customer who needed to run Notes4). Yes, it can break other things, but not that many and stuff like Clarify runs great, I can't think of one really critical thing it broke actually. And I think it probably fixed more than Notes 4. > >Unfortunatly I don't have a copy of 4.1p1001. This is particularly >annoying as I need to run NotesIV! It is not available via insignia's ftp >site, though it once was. They appear to have "tidied up", and this patch >got lost somewhere. If anyone DOES have a copy of p1001 (and the >associated winsock.dll) I'd love to get a copy (it only works with >licensed versions of 4.1 so I don't think licensing is an issue, but thats >just my opinion). Hi Ian, I'll try and dig it up for you, I belive I may have it around someplace. Drop me some mail, my address is: tfs@mystic.magik.net, or anything else that's in my .sig. Tim -- ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail, MIME) Tim Scanlon tfs@epic.org (PGP key aval.) crypto is good Play Mystic: mystic.magik.net 3000
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:25:58 -0500 From: joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R1403971425580001@news.dol.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net/ In article <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu>, Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> wrote: > On 13 Mar 1997, John Rudd wrote: > > > > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists > > (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this > > market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ > > the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, take > > a look." > > > > If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should continue his > > current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. > > > Your absolutly right. > > I've been wondering if what has been printed might be being taken out of > context in the original article. > > It just dosent seem to jive with other noises coming from Adobe and > Apple. The recent agreements about DPS/PS and Acrobate/Webobjects > integration for instance. These are two companies combining some > powerful code in order to strenghten themselves in the marketplace. Why > would Adobe lock itself out of one of it most lucrative markets? Please send a letter to Adobe (they have a feedback form on their web page). They need to hear in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that they need Rhapsody to work without being kludged. However, given the quality of media reporting, keep in mind that this could all be trash brought up by the FUDsters, so be nice. -- Regards, Joe Ragosta joe.ragosta@dol.net See the Complete Macintosh Advocacy Site http://www.dol.net/~Ragosta/complmac.htm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hhoff@schwaben.de.NOSPAM (Holger Hoffstaette) Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Sender: news@flop.schwaben.de Organization: NeXT Ghetto People feat. St.Eve Message-ID: <E79Du6.2wI@flop.schwaben.de> References: <19970314010101.UAA04249@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5gbtun$g52@nps.navy.mil> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 21:46:54 GMT Kevin R Gue wrote: > I received a return call from the Lighthouse folks this week. The word was > this: > - Lighthouse will *not* port the Academic bundle to Openstep for Solaris > - They *may* port individual components to Openstep for Solaris (Concurrence, > Diagram, etc.) > - My caller gave no dates or guarantees. Did the person say what they *are* going doing all day, then? I mean, if they're not porting the apps to OpenStep - which would effectively mean a rewrite, since the apps are already quite old and have some serious bugs - what? Just screaming 'Java, Java' at the top of their lungs is all fine and certainly politically correct, but at leat *some* kind of official opinion would be much better than this silence. At least they submitted JavaPlan for Mach to the FTP archives. For reasons beyond my understanding, they do not mention any Mach products on their (partially broken) web pages. Message to Lighthouse: do or do not - but do not hesitate, either way. Holger -- hhoff@schwaben.de.NOSPAM LOAD "MACH_KERNEL",8,1
From: "Norbert Pfaff" <Norbert.Pfaff@pk.she.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 19 Mar 97 09:25:57 +0100 Message-ID: <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nntp://news.she.de/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.she.de/comp.sys.mac.advocacy >Are all these big image processing houses going to make the >switch? I think not, they would most likely switch to NT 4.0 and use Adobe >for NT. With PPC=B4s running over 500 mhz and Intel not much more than 200 for the next future, they will not easily going to NT. Norbert Pfaff --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: gnu.gnustep.discuss,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep on Java, a GNUdream? Date: 19 Mar 1997 16:18:33 GMT Message-ID: <5gp3kp$ono@fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Why not implementing an OpenStep Environment in Java? The OpenStep API is the only up to date specification for "look- and feel" of an whole desktop. There are already a few implemtations of this non-proprietary environment: OPENSTEP/mach , OPENSTEP/NT, Solaris OpenStep. Some more are likely to come: GNUStep,Rhapsody. With some companies trying to establish a form of computer terminals, called "Network Computer"s, there is a need for a good API standard, like OpenStep. As this NCs are baised on Webclients or Java, what about: A Java Frontend to GNUStep. Maybe someone could coment on, if this would be technically possible in acceptable speed in the near future. But remeber: it would possibly be enough, if only the Windowserver runs in Java, having all the real computing done in the main server. (Just like Applix-anyware, the first(?) office system for Java.) Maybe it would be enough, if only the mouse movements and the resulting graphics would be translated to the Java/OpenStep/frontend. Did no one thought about that? Were is the free project taking up the task? >;-> Bernhard Reiter
From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:26:49 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5gc5uu$6lt@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5gc5uu$6lt@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Control: cancel <5gc5uu$6lt@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Mar 19 16:04:36 1997 Original subject was: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:13:09 -0500 Organization: SoftArc Inc. Message-ID: <maury-1903971113090001@199.166.204.230> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <simpson-1803971807490001@ws-3.brookscole.drexel.edu> In article <simpson-1803971807490001@ws-3.brookscole.drexel.edu>, simpson@post.drexel.edu (Homer Simpson) wrote: > business elsewhere.". I think that is great but will it make enough of a > difference? Are all these big image processing houses going to make the > switch? I think not, they would most likely switch to NT 4.0 and use Adobe > for NT. Depends on how fast it is. If it's lots faster, they won't. Maury
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: gnu.gnustep.discuss,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep on Java, a GNUdream? Date: 19 Mar 1997 16:37:54 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5gp4p2$svn$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5gp3kp$ono@fu-berlin.de> In comp.sys.next.software Bernhard Reiter <breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> wrote: : The OpenStep API is the only up to date specification for "look- and : feel" of an whole desktop. There are already a few implemtations of : this non-proprietary environment: OPENSTEP/mach , OPENSTEP/NT, : Solaris OpenStep. Some more are likely to come: GNUStep,Rhapsody. OpenStep doesn't specify look and feel. Neither OPENSTEP/NT nor GNUstep currently resemble the NeXT look and feel seen in 3.3, and there's a good chance Rhapsody won't either. : With some companies trying to establish a form of computer : terminals, called "Network Computer"s, there is a need for a good : API standard, like OpenStep. As this NCs are baised on Webclients or : Java, what about: I suspect Apple, down the road, will push NXHosting into some form of NC (we call them X-terminals) in the future. [snip] A Java PostScript interpreter would be very cool. : Did no one thought about that? : Were is the free project taking up the task? >;-> Well, you've already got a free Java VM which runs on 15 or so platforms, a free Java compiler, a free implementation of Foundation and parts of AppKit, a free database library. Don't you have a compiler? :) -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:52:05 -0700 Organization: RR Message-ID: <333019B5.4AFC@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> References: <19970314010101.UAA04249@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5gbtun$g52@nps.navy.mil> <E79Du6.2wI@flop.schwaben.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Holger Hoffstaette wrote: > > Kevin R Gue wrote: I agree. I can't understand why Lighthouse/Sun will not just tell us what is going on. Why should it be a secret? Specifically, I want to know if we will be able to get the former NeXt-Lighthouse apps for Openstep Solaris, or for any other environment. I would like to buy Diagram, Quantrix, Equation_Builder, and perhaps one or two others. > > I received a return call from the Lighthouse folks this week. The word was > > this: > > - Lighthouse will *not* port the Academic bundle to Openstep for Solaris > > - They *may* port individual components to Openstep for Solaris (Concurrence, > > Diagram, etc.) > > - My caller gave no dates or guarantees. > > Did the person say what they *are* going doing all day, then? > I mean, if they're not porting the apps to OpenStep - which would > effectively mean a rewrite, since the apps are already quite old > and have some serious bugs - what? > Just screaming 'Java, Java' at the top of their lungs is all fine > and certainly politically correct, but at leat *some* kind of official > opinion would be much better than this silence. > At least they submitted JavaPlan for Mach to the FTP archives. > For reasons beyond my understanding, they do not mention any > Mach products on their (partially broken) web pages. > Message to Lighthouse: do or do not - but do not hesitate, > either way. > > Holger > -- > hhoff@schwaben.de.NOSPAM LOAD "MACH_KERNEL",8,1
From: teb@eng.cam.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: specfp92 Date: 19 Mar 1997 20:12:11 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5gphar$si1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Hi, would anyone know about how I can test the specint92 and specfp92 of my (Intel) processor? Cheers, Thomas --- Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. NeXT-Mail welcome, PGP-2.6.i key available.
From: Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:29:48 -0800 Organization: Western Washington University Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970319122802.7543C-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R1403971425580001@news.dol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R1403971425580001@news.dol.net> On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Joe Ragosta wrote: > In article <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu>, > Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> wrote: > > > On 13 Mar 1997, John Rudd wrote: > > > > > > > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists > > > (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this > > > market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ > > > the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, > take > > > a look." > > > > > > If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should > continue his > > > current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. > > > > > > Your absolutly right. > > > > I've been wondering if what has been printed might be being taken out of > > context in the original article. > > > > It just dosent seem to jive with other noises coming from Adobe and > > Apple. The recent agreements about DPS/PS and Acrobate/Webobjects > > integration for instance. These are two companies combining some > > powerful code in order to strenghten themselves in the marketplace. Why > > would Adobe lock itself out of one of it most lucrative markets? > > Please send a letter to Adobe (they have a feedback form on their web > page). They need to hear in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that they need Rhapsody to > work without being kludged. > > However, given the quality of media reporting, keep in mind that this could > all be trash brought up by the FUDsters, so be nice. Thanks. I did. He (Warnock) replied. It was. I'm sure you'll find the post. Robb
From: Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:39:58 -0800 Organization: Western Washington University Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970319123716.7543D-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <simpson-1803971807490001@ws-3.brookscole.drexel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <simpson-1803971807490001@ws-3.brookscole.drexel.edu> On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Homer Simpson wrote: > In article <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com>, jon@subsequent.com wrote: > > > Robb Lincoln wrote: > > > > > Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... > > > Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. > > > > He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: > > Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help > > 'pay for the ports'. > > > > He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and > > expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. > > > > He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to > > make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money. > > Sounds familiar. I said this back in January when the DPS vs GX war was > going on. It is interesting that everyone seems to be saying "I'll take my > business elsewhere.". I think that is great but will it make enough of a > difference? Are all these big image processing houses going to make the > switch? I think not, they would most likely switch to NT 4.0 and use Adobe > for NT. > > I hope the comments were out of context and that Adobe will port but if > they don't that is two major players in the Mac market that have not > committed to Rhapsady, Micorsoft being the other. Unfortunately if these > two key players do not jump on board and have shipping products within 3 > months of Rhapsady's release I am afraid Rhapsady will enjoy the same > sales success as NextStep did. It looks like they were taken out of context. I fully believe steaking to Me. Warnock that Adobe fully intends to be in the Yellow Box when the Unified Rhapsody Ships.
From: Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:24:54 -0800 Organization: Western Washington University Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970319120951.7543B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <332EBFE2.27AB@utk.edu> On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Paul Wallace wrote: > Jack Miller wrote: > > > > In the midst of all the discussion, can anyone tell me Warnock's email > > address (or something equivalent to leadership@apple.com)? I have some > > opinions I'd like to tell him/them directly. > > On my Feeding Frenzy site (http://www.clever.net/wallace/frenzy/) where > we address the media's coverage of Apple, NeXT, and PowerPC; I posted > the address warnock@adobe.com as the place to send feedback about this > discussion. > > I heard back from a couple of visitors who apparently received replies > from John Warnock this past week. One of the replies reads: > > --begin quote-- > > ...The quote you saw was taken out of a very long discussion. Adobe is > arguing for features IN the Yellow box that would minimize the porting > effort. We do not want to cripple the Yellow box in any way, but want an > environment where we can do a port rather than a rewrite. > > I hope this helps. > > J Warnock > > --end quote-- > > I have no reason to believe that this is a fake, it seems from these > remarks that the article in the San Francisco Examiner took the original > quote out of context (can you believe that?..) I recieved a similar message which I posted here this morning: **begin quote** Robb: The quote that was attributed to me was out of context. We have NOT asked Apple to compromise the Yellow Box. The last thing we want is to move backwards. There are some things Apple could do to make the porting job much easier for all application developers. These changes would optimize their chance of success. Many of our customers use the Mac 12 to 18 hours a day in a production environment. Having a smooth transition to the new OS is manditory for those customers (just like the Power PC transition). We all want Apple to succeed. Adobe is trying to maximize that probability through working with Apple to build a successful plan. John Warnock **end quote** It would seem to be a concern of Warnocks that the transition be made as easy as possible, which is not unreasonable. I believe that this is not an attempt to "muscle" Apple. There is no theat of NOT porting to the Yellowbox which would be the "stick" end of the threat. Instead Warnock is angling for the best transition to the new API. I firmly believe that Adobe will be on board when the Unified Release ships. Of course I'm sure others will read the tea leaves differently, and that is OK. Only time will tell tale. Paul has the right Idea...Please don't do anything rash (like dumping your stock in Adobe) bassed on the that Paragon of Jurnalistic Virtue AKA the San Francisco Examiner.
From: Douglas Hardman <dhardman@accessicg.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: REQ: Openstep help? Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:35:20 +0000 Organization: ICG Message-ID: <3330157D.60AF@accessicg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone have a copy of OpenStep 4.0 for the Intel Architecture. Is there somewhere I can download it, and run it BEORE I spend thousands of dollars on the OS. Is there support for it anywhere? I have alot of questions, and would appreciate some direction from anyone. Thanks! -- Virtual Regards, Douglas Hardman Programming Director / MIS Interactive Concepts Group http://www.accessicg.com dhardman@accessicg.com
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: want NeXT 3.2/3.3 & Developer (Motorola) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 17:55:07 -0700 Organization: Publisher -- Burning Eagle Book Company Message-ID: <3331DC6B.577CFAA8@konnections.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey: Anyone know where I can get a copy of either NeXT OS 3.2 or 3.3 and the Developer? Used is fine... Hell, just about anything is fine... Please email details to me at: mallison@konnections.com I'm also interested in purchasing a highend publishing package for the same OS (Frame...., etc) Thanks, -Mike
From: haze@sailfish.exis.net (Jason Jenkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP: getting sendmail to send Date: 19 Mar 1997 22:08:47 GMT Organization: Exis Net Inc Message-ID: <5gpo5f$p3h@grouper.exis.net> I'm still strugling to get my new NeXTStation up and running as I'd like it. I am using GateKeeper and ppp2.2 to connect. It's working fine and I got OmniWeb to work, so I know the connection is good. I'd like to use Mail.app to do do email. I'm using PopOver to get the mail from my ISP, and recieving works fine. So here's the problem: I followed the help file in PopOver about setting up to send and modified sendmail.cf to include the ISP mail server. When I tell Mail.app to deliver the mail, the send data light on the modem flashes, so I know something is happening. The mail that I send though never get delivered. (ie, if I send something to myself, I never get it back.) Does anyone have any ideas/pointers. BTW I'm using NS3.3 and the included sendmail. Do I have to use a newer version of sendmail? Thanks, Jason
From: whale4me@aol.com (Whale4Me) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Notebook App Date: 19 Mar 1997 23:56:19 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970319235601.SAA23502@ladder01.news.aol.com> We use Notebook very heavily. Does anyone know where I can reach Scott Love (or anyone) of Millenium OR if they sold the source code to someone? Is there something similar that runs on Windows95 or NT? Thanks for your help. Please response directly to whale4me@aol.com
From: rraman@site.gmu.edu (Ravishankar Ramanathan (CSI)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenDOC equivalent in NEXTSTEP/ OPENSTEP? Date: 19 Mar 1997 00:41:17 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <5gncnd$lhk@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All: Now that OpenDOC is put to rest, I was wondering what kind of equivalent exists in the NeXT world. From what I have used, OpenDOC is nice. I used to put together graphics, text into a container document, and I'll be able to edit any of them individually, etc., etc. Anyways, the simple question is: is there a equivalent architecture within NEXTSTEP/ OPENSTEP? Compound documents, with each piece having its own features, menus, and what not. Thanks for any info you can provide! -Ravi
From: publicist@meetmeonline.com (MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940AU <-- Note the "A" :) Date: 20 Mar 1997 00:31:00 GMT Organization: MeetMeOnline <a zerologic company> Message-ID: <publicist-1903971833560001@thebook.on-demand.com> References: <publicist-1303971742370001@thebook.on-demand.com> <5gn1sn$nso@bignews.shef.ac.uk> url: http://www.meetmeonline.com/ In article <5gn1sn$nso@bignews.shef.ac.uk>, mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: > On 03/13/97, MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson wrote: > > I found the Adaptec 2940U drivers at the NeXTansers site but found, much > > to my dismay, that it doesn't support the AU. Does anyone know of a > > workaround for this? > > > Yes, I got my machine working thanks to a useful pointer from Paul Lynch... > > The Adaptec2940AU is not officially supported by the current NEXTSTEP > drivers: the driver information table, however, includes the "Auto Detect > IDs" for the PCI devices. The ID for the AU is missing: I simply added > 0x61789004 > to the list and it seems to work fine. I recieved a similar response too.... thanks to everyone who helped! Michael. -- Meet a friend, Meet a lover, Meet another... MeetMe at http://www.meetmeonline.com/
From: drifterusa@macconnect.com (John Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:58:45 -0600 Organization: None Distribution: world Message-ID: <drifterusa-1903972358450001@accs-as802-dp03.atln.grid.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Jean-Yves Hervé wrote: > Frankly, if I had ever wanted a bloody NeXT box, I would have bought one! I can't speak for you, of course, but frankly, I don't *know* if I would have ever wanted a NeXT box. When they first came out, they were way out of my price range. Since then, they have not attained mainstream status. I don't think I've ever even seen one. Still, everything I've read about them made them sound interesting at the very least. (Sort of like Be.) If they had been as available and affordable as Macs and Amigas (yes, almost bought one of those), maybe I *would* have bought one. So the prospect of finally seeing this much ballyhooed technology on my Mac I find exciting. > Basically, what we have been hearing from the NeXT folks and their > groupies is that virtually every single piece of OS software on the Mac > side was crap and that there was something better in NeXT's bag of tricks > (and it is not over yet: I am ready to bet that, by the time Rhapsody gets > out, QuickDraw3D will by history too). What we are being promised is the > NeXT OS running on a PowerPC and the MacOS running in a virtual machine > next to it. But, since Avie and his pals want to be nice with us Mac > wusses, we may get a single menu bar and right-side scroll bars, if we ask > politely for it. Yes, it seems that in many ways Rhapsody is turning into a NeXT clone (which may not be a bad thing), but it also seems like Apple is doing the most expedient thing to get their next generation OS out the door. Where two similar technologies compete, they are opting for the already-proven and compatible NeXT option. I hold out some hope that once Rhapsody is shipping and Apple is in better financial health, they will reconsider incorporating some older Mac technologies into it (like OpenDoc). But I have to think that meeting their announced ship dates is crucial right now. (I find it funny that some Mac fans are now adopting an "I'll wait forever as long as I get Copland" stance, forgetting how desperate they were for a modern OS a few months ago.) This past week's news has made me wonder what makes a Mac a Mac, and if the loss of many of Apple's technologies makes it time to admit the Mac is dead. But if I had to point to one thing that makes a Mac what it is, I would have to say it's the user interface. By all accounts, this interface will be fully implemented (perhaps with NeXTian enhancements or options) in Rhapsody. I have to conclude, then, that Rhapsody is a Mac OS. OTOH, I also have to admit that there may come a time when the Mac as we know it ceases to exist. To think otherwise is to refuse to believe that there could ever be something better. > So, let me ask again the question: why move from Tempo/Allegro to Rhapsody? > Here are the possible answers I can think of. None of them cut it for me. > > (1) Because Rhapsody will have PMT, protected memory, "all the features of > a True (TM) modern operating system". > > Well, I for one don't care that much for PMT. As for the rest, the last > time I looked at a NeXT box, years back, it had all that. I did not buy > one back then. Can't see why I should do so now or 2 years from now. Funny, even with my feeble, non-power-user way of working with my Mac, I would enjoy some "modern" underpinnings. The only thing that may keep me from getting them via Rhapsody will be the price. ($100 = yes; $500 = no.) > (2) Because if we don't, then Apple will die, and we will all be sad. If most current Mac users stick with "Classic Mac OS," I don't think it will kill Apple. (I also think this scenario is highly unlikely, though also highly dependent on pricing.) The inability to generate any *new* interest in Rhapsody or Apple-branded computers will kill Apple. > (4) Because if Rhapsody flops, we will all have to switch to Wintel. Or, more accurately, Microsoft will have that much more power to single-handedly determine the course of personal computing, needless to say to the detriment of personal computing. > j-y hervé [eagerly waiting for Tempo and Allegro, and the next two years > of Mac OS experience] Depending on how Rhapsody plays out, I wouldn't hold my breath for two more years of Mac OS experience, at least not "improved" Mac OS experience. I can easily envision Tempo being the last of the "Classic Mac" line. After all, once you kill all your promising technologies, what's left to add to the OS?
From: bisk@4dcomm.com (Stephen D. Biskis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wide SCSI Controller w/disk cache Date: 20 Mar 1997 03:00:13 GMT Organization: 4D Global Internet Services Message-ID: <5gq97t$oq4@news.4dcomm.com> Does anybody have any especially good or bad experiences with any particular disk caching wide SCSI controller. I'm in the market for one to use with NS3.3. Thanks in advance. da bisk
From: samu@*remove_this_to_e-mail_me*usa.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: 20 Mar 1997 10:11:04 +0200 Organization: ex Message-ID: <5gqreo$6ee@vuokko.uta.fi> References: <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111> In article <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111>, Norbert Pfaff <Norbert.Pfaff@pk.she.de> wrote: >With PPC´s running over 500 mhz and Intel not much more than 200 for >the next future, they will not easily going to NT. Now, now. This is silly. Comparing just processor speeds (at MHz) of two CPUs of different architecture, with different memory controllers, memory subsystems, system bus designs, OSes & so forth is just silly. Only when we have the new PowerPC (ex CHRP) machines out with new 87-100 Mhz buses operating on faster RAM and better designs will we see if there's any point in having just more Megahertz and if it really translates to faster overall system speed... While I understand your point that for many gfx apps raw speed (and stability!) is essential, I'd also say that cross-platform support, 3rd party offerings, using the current (or perceived or perceived forthcoming) standards are essential. This is where Mac leads now in regards to for example Photoshop (or so I believe). But, consider a situation when a gfx app X runs in Blue Box only, with just as much crashing (if not more, due to the nature of being inside Yellow Box) as currently and it runs with much less crashes inside NT v4/5, I could see more people switching over to use that app on that platform, which would result in more 3rd party support in that platform, etc. Of course, the speed issue would be essential too (which means that NT 4/5 version would have to be at least the speed of the comperable Apple/BlueBox product). Definitely the Rhapsody wouldn't crash if the gfx app inside Blue Box would crash, but all those gfx apps running concurrently in Blue Box would go down with blue box (if I've understood the Blue/Yellow Box definition correctly). This is the same as in current MacOS (you have to restart your Blue Box which equals your current MacOS) if you're running only gfx apps for current MacOS (and I don't see many gfx apps coming out native to Yellow box at the time of premium release of Rhapsody, although I'll admit straigth away that it is probably too early to tell). But my point is: things are very vague. There is much "ifs" and "maybes" in the air and they're not doing good for Apple or evangelism of Rhapsody. I'm certainly considering my next computer to be a WinTel one (although the idea is not to my liking) and am telling our school and my company to seriously start reconsidering their dual-platform strategy. I want Apple/Rhapsody to succeed, I can see that they might, but I'm definitely not betting on that. I wish I had the luxury of going with what I know is right, but if I make a financially incorrect decision in regards to platform and OS it is going to cost a lot of money. This is what a lot of IT managers have to think about and regardless of the superiority of competing products it is usually safer to go with the standard one. Just my two pesos worth... Best regards, Samu Mielonen -- Copyright 1996 Samu Mielonen. All rights reserved. <samu at usa dot net> Unsolicited advertising sent to my e-mail addresses is unauthorized use of my computer equipment as well as a form of mail harassment. A charge of $1000 will be applied to senders of such messages. News headers have been modified.
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 20 Mar 1997 07:54:38 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <5grc2e$nbk@papoose.quick.com> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> In article <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu>, DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> wrote: >Improv had many nice features, such as being able to construct formulas >that look like English. May it rest in peace. Of all the spreadsheets >out there in 1997, on whatever platform, which is most Improv-like in >terms of look and feel? Quantrix is currently the only avaiable product which implements this style of spreadsheet. It differs from Improv in a few stylistic areas, but has the same flavor. Quantrix is from LightHouse. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars?
From: hhoff@ultra.media-group.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wide SCSI Controller w/disk cache Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Date: 20 Mar 1997 14:34:45 GMT Organization: media group Message-ID: <5grhu5$cs7$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> References: <5gq97t$oq4@news.4dcomm.com> Stephen D. Biskis (bisk@4dcomm.com) wrote: >Does anybody have any especially good or bad experiences with any particular >disk caching wide SCSI controller. I'm in the market for one to use with >NS3.3. DPT. They rule. Stable and fast as hell. 4 MB cache makes your system run; 16 MB or more (up to 64 possible) make you effectively forget about your hard disk, no matter how slow it is. Holger
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 20 Mar 1997 15:21:39 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <5grkm3$mps$1@dropit.pgh.net> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5gmv8i$gfd@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> wrote: > > Improv had many nice features, such as being able to construct > > formulas that look like English. May it rest in peace. Of all > > the spreadsheets out there in 1997, on whatever platform, which > > is most Improv-like in terms of look and feel? > > Improv was the first spreadsheet program that I really liked. > I hate standard spreadsheet setups. > > Look for Quantrix, from Lighthouse Design (which is now a part > of Sun). They may not talk a lot about being NeXTSTEP > developers on their web pages, but Quantrix is just one of > several very fine applications that they have for NeXTSTEP. > I have Quantrix on my NeXT and I do not like the graphic capabilites. It does not handle discontinuous lines. Improv does this very well I have Improv on Windows 3.1 at the office and Windows NT at home and it "seems" to work fine. However, I have not moved all my stuff from the NeXT yet. This is also a "more advanced" version and offers some things the NeXT didn't; eg, a macro language. Excell 97 allows you to name rows and columns and to use them in formulae. It also offers multiple, linkable worksheets. However, I have not tested it myself yet. Some theing sound great but turn out to have problems when you try to use them; ie, Quantrix. ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: smolny@pankow.mpiib-berlin.mpg.de (Bertram Smolny) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.misc,comp.protocols.smb Subject: SAMBA and faxing Date: 20 Mar 1997 14:33:42 GMT Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Message-ID: <5grhs6$meb$2@gwdu19.gwdg.de> Hi, is there a way to send faxes from i.e. W95 via SAMBA by NeXTSTEP ? (NXFAX or JollyFax). This can be a good way to use a powerfull tool from NeXTSTEP. Have anyone experiences with the HYLAFAX-Client for W$$95 and SAMBA ? please send e-mail reagrds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bertram Smolny Fon: ++49 30/2802-6154 MPI f. Infektionsbiologie Fax: ++49 30/2802-6406 Monbijoustr.2 D-10117 Berlin e-mail: smolny@mpiib-berlin.mpg.de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Quicktime viewer? Date: 20 Mar 1997 16:08:56 GMT Organization: Princeton University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5grneo$ggu$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Originator: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU Can someone point me to a QuickTime viewer for a NextStation, running NS 3.2? Thanks. Tim -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quicktime viewer? Date: 20 Mar 1997 21:24:54 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gs9v6$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5grneo$ggu$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Cc: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU In <5grneo$ggu$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Timothy Van Zandt wrote: > > Can someone point me to a QuickTime viewer for a NextStation, > running NS 3.2? > > Thanks. > > Tim > it's called NEXTIME, it comes on a CD-ROM, so you'll need a CD-ROM drive. There are two versions, the cuurent one is OPENSTEP and won't work for you running 3.2; the previous version 1.0 works fine and looks swell. try contacting NeXT or place a WTB in c.s.n.marketplace for NEXTIME 1.0. Originally it sold for $100, I think. more info perhaps in the faq. -rick
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: REQ: Openstep help? Date: 20 Mar 1997 21:38:18 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gsaoa$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <3330157D.60AF@accessicg.com> Cc: dhardman@accessicg.com In <3330157D.60AF@accessicg.com> Douglas Hardman wrote: > Anyone have a copy of OpenStep 4.0 for the Intel Architecture. > Is there somewhere I can download it, and run it BEORE I spend thousands of > dollars on the OS. heh, heh... I don't think downloading is an option here. there is no "demo" version. keep in mind you are talking about higher than average complexity install and many 10s of megabytes of code here. your best bet may be either contacting either a user group, another user, or a NeXT sales rep for some Q&A / demo. with 4.2 due out in a few months, there should be copies of 4.0 on the net soon for far less than the thousands you see yourself spending. the current shippng verion is 4.1. > Is there support for it anywhere? OPENSTEP/MACH is well supported, although 4.0 is one version back. The typical customer is either a student/faculty member buying on heavy discount, and assumed to have access to university sysadmin assistance, or corporate user/developer, also assumed to have access to sysadmin assistance, or ISV developer assumed to supply his/her own sysadmin assistance. there are various pay-for-support plans available directly from NeXT. then there's the c.s.n.* newsgroups ;-) >I have alot of > questions, and would appreciate some direction from anyone. Thanks! hope this was of some help. where are you located? see if there is either a user group, NeXT sales office or nearby university that has some NeXTs around, and someone who remembers how they work. ;-) -rick
From: sarlo@tezcat.com (sarlo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Linux/BSD/NeXT? Date: 20 Mar 1997 22:27:57 GMT Organization: Breakfast at Tezcat. Message-ID: <5gsdld$42i@tepe.tezcat.com> I was wondering if anyone had heard of a port of BSD/Linux for NeXT boxes (680x0's). If so, where can I find info on it, as I think i've pretty much exausted all of the web functions.. -- sarlo@tezcat.com - Sarlykins. | I was lying in bed, looking up at the EXXON - Put a tiger in your | stars when I suddenly thought to myself, tank! And while you're at it, | "Where the fuck did my roof go?" toss in a few dead otters too. | -EXXON Ad, 1989 | Alternatives: sarlo@chinet.com http://www.tezcat.com/~sarlo sarlo@pyrotechnics.com \||// sarlo@2600.com Don'tcha love bongo-.sigs? oO sarlo@blight.com ()^() Pttht. sarlo@ripco.com U /~~~~~~ root@mcs.net
From: Robert Nicholson <robert@justine.elastica.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax!!! Date: 20 Mar 1997 19:18:07 -0500 Organization: American Commerce & Technology Message-ID: <e913icd34.fsf@justine.elastica.com> References: <01bc2f68$48789ea0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> <5g8ubj$ktq@news4.digex.net> Well it use to be in /usr/adm/nxfax somewhere is this file still on your machine?
From: markfr@markfr .cse.tek.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Openstep on NT Date: 20 Mar 1997 22:05:11 GMT Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR USA Message-ID: <5gscan$qqk$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> Can anyone tell me more about running Openstep on NT. I have a graphics program that I created on Nextstep 3.3, and I would like to have people be able to run it on NT (it is based on Next's Draw program). My questions: 1. How much effort will it be to port from Nextstep to Openstep? I use views, windows, buttons, etc. 2. Will each of the users have to have Openstep running on their NT station? If so, how much is the user license? 3. Does Openstep just look like another app on NT? How well is it integrated? Any other pointers would be helpful. - Thanks, Mark
From: Robert Nicholson <robert@justine.elastica.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax!!! Date: 20 Mar 1997 19:19:11 -0500 Organization: American Commerce & Technology Message-ID: <e7mj2cd1c.fsf@justine.elastica.com> References: <01bc2f68$48789ea0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> <5g8ubj$ktq@news4.digex.net> Well it use to be in /usr/adm/nxfax somewhere is this file still on your machine? y
From: nimno@Walden.mo.net (John Bartley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RBrowser startup problem Date: 20 Mar 1997 18:08:27 GMT Organization: -=MO.NET=- MVP-Net, Inc's Missouri Operations Message-ID: <5gruer$ijb@twain.mo.net> I've been using RBrowser for a long time at home with no problems. However, I can't seem to get very far at the office and don't know what the problem is. As soon as I launch it, an error panel pops up that says: "mkdir failed:Permission denied." OK, I can handle the fix for that, but the question is where is it trying to do the mkdir? There is no feedback in the console to give me a hint as to what it wants to do. The system I'm trying to run it on has no problem that I'm aware of with respect to ownership or permissions that should affect RBrowser. In other words, I don't have trouble running other apps and have been functioning just fine for 4 years here, so I'm perplexed! Of course since RBrowser quits immediately after dismissing the error panel, it makes it kind of hard to read the help to see if there is anything mentioned there about this situation. The only thing that I can think of is that my home directory is on a file system that is NFS mounted from an HP server. There are no permission problems or group problems that affect other operations though, so why should RBrowser have a problem? Any ideas? John Bartley john@wpa.com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: how do I rename a Group in NeXTmail? Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:02:42 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970320210008.11106F-100000@kira> References: <5gphsu$72c$1@jeeves2.niehs.nih.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Gregg E. Dinse" <dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov> In-Reply-To: <5gphsu$72c$1@jeeves2.niehs.nih.gov> Sadly, the only way to do this is to quit Mail.app and open ~/.NeXT/.mailalias in Edit.app (or some other text which can do ASCII) Once you have the file open it should be relatively easy to figure out how to change the names, save the file, and start Mail.app. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS March Quiz - last call + 3 more hints ! Date: 21 Mar 1997 02:02:33 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5gsq7p$7d4@peng.ping.at> Dear NEXTSTEP community, this is the last call for the SSS March quiz on http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/quiz.html If you haven't participated yet, hurry! Deadline is April 1. ATTENTION: Due to the low number of correct answers in both of the two quiz categories, THE MARCH QUIZ IS YOUR BEST CHANCE EVER to win a free HelpViewer or LatinByrd license. And here's even THREE MORE HINTS: 1) I'm serious about the "30 seconds" hint given on the quiz page. You won't need to stress your brains much - just make use of one particular application. Luckily, when you download and display the quiz page, that particular app is already the active one. 2) In case you're on the right way, but the results still yield nothing, then take a look at the 6th character: it's a capital! You might want to adapt how you try to find an answer... 3) If you succeed in getting the answer to the first question, then the answer to the second question should be fairly easy. Just keep in mind that SSS is a SOHO. Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RBrowser startup problem Date: 21 Mar 1997 09:14:48 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <5gu54o$akv@papoose.quick.com> References: <5gruer$ijb@twain.mo.net> In article <5gruer$ijb@twain.mo.net>, John Bartley <nimno@Walden.mo.net> wrote: >The only thing that I can think of is that my home directory is on >a file system that is NFS mounted from an HP server. There are no >permission problems or group problems that affect other operations >though, so why should RBrowser have a problem? I do not use RBrowser so cannot be sure, but I think I know what is going on. If RBrowser is running SUID root, and the HP has exported the file system without root access for your host, this would explain your problem. When root access is not explicitly requested for an export to a host, then normal users can update the disk just fine within the limits of normal Unix permissions, but the superuser cannot. This security prevents someone who has root access on a client from installing a trojan horse on a volume which lives on the server. man exportfs on the HP to verify. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars?
From: Chang Song <song@ctc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Workspace refresh rate Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:11:25 -0500 Organization: Concurrent Technologies Corp. Message-ID: <3332970D.FF6@ctc.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <simpson-1803971807490001@ws-3.brookscole.drexel.edu> <Pine.ULT.3.91.970319123716.7543D-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I was wondering if anyone know dwrite for refresh rate of Workspace file manager. For example, if I copy a file from Terminal it takes a while for the file appear in the file manager. I want file manager get the latest directory stat like every one second. Thanks in advance. -- Chang-Hyeon Song E-mail: song@ctc.com Concurrent Technologies Corp. Phone: 814-269-6515 Personal E-mail: song@PlanetAll.com Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/5237/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- "A distributed system is one in which I cannot get something done because a machine I've never heard of is down." --Leslie Lamport
From: "Nicolai Henriksen" <nicolai@post6.tele.dk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: 21 Mar 1997 17:18:18 GMT Message-ID: <5gufsq$4kai$1@news.inet.tele.dk> References: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> There is a bug in EnhanceMail 2.0b5 resulting in exactly what you describe. I fixed it and I think I mailed it to the maintainers of EnhanceMail, but no new version has come out yet (AFAIK). I can mail you the a fixed version or the source changes (only a few lines) if you want... - Nicolai mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) wrote: >I've just made the switch to Openstep and I'm experiencing odd behavior in >Mail 4.1. Just wondering if anyone out there has experienced the same... > >When composing messages, my signature gets wiped out if I select "Rich Text" >or "Mime" mail. > >Likewise, if I have "Reply in same format" set in Mail's preferences, when I >press the "Reply To" button my signature gets wiped out, and it text messages >always get replied to in NeXTMail. > >Finally, I have both .signature and .signature.rtf files and only the >..signature file seems to get recognized by Mail. > >BTW, I have EnhanceMail (2.0b5). Anyone else notice this? > >-- >Mark Trombino > mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay) > -- Nicolai Henriksen <nicolai@post6.tele.dk> WWW: http://home6.inet.tele.dk/nicolai ---------------------------------------- -Drink wet cement: Get Stoned.
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trouble with TickleServices/enscript from Edit Date: 21 Mar 1997 18:51:15 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <5gulb3$mng@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I asked how to print a selection of a file (not the whole file) from Edit. People suggested TickleServices, so I'm trying it out. It looks pretty cool, but I've run into a snag. I have less than a page of text. I select it and then try Services->TickleServices->Enscript Text... Sometimes this works, and it prints, but there seems to be a limit on the size of the selection. There's a point where if I add one more character to the selection the Enscript Text fails, giving the following message in the Console: ----------- TickleServer: Tcl error providing service "Tickle Services/Enscript Text...". enscript: "(stdin)" not a text file? Try -g. while executing "exec enscript << [pasteboard read]" ("0" arm line 1) invoked from within "case [alertpanel Enscript $msg "2 column" "1 column" "Parameters"] { 1 {exec enscript -2r << [pasteboard read]} 0 {exec enscript << [pasteboar ..." invoked from within service "Tickle Services/Enscript Text..." in file "/LocalLibrary/TickleServices/Tickle Services.ts" ----------- So, what am I doing wrong? Thanks, David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Linux/BSD/NeXT? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7EGoK.B0o@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:36:20 GMT References: <5gsdld$42i@tepe.tezcat.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5gsdld$42i@tepe.tezcat.com>, sarlo <sarlo@tezcat.com> wrote: >I was wondering if anyone had heard of a port of BSD/Linux for NeXT boxes >(680x0's). If so, where can I find info on it, as I think i've pretty much >exausted all of the web functions.. > There was a guy who was working on one, but I don't recall who he is or what became of the work. You can run Plan 9 on mono slabs (and cubes, I would imagine) but I think that's it as far as alternate OSs goes. Of course you could use the info in the Plan 9 port to do your own stuff. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: 21 Mar 1997 21:30:23 -0500 Organization: Northern Telecom Ltd., Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <iwkvi6k64lc.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> References: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <5gufsq$4kai$1@news.inet.tele.dk> "Nicolai Henriksen" <nicolai@post6.tele.dk> writes: > There is a bug in EnhanceMail 2.0b5 resulting in exactly what you describe. I fixed it > and I think I mailed it to the maintainers of EnhanceMail, but no new version has come > out yet (AFAIK). I can mail you the a fixed version or the source changes (only a few > lines) if you want... >... Please post your fix here (the few lines of source code) so we may all benefit. Thanks, Christopher === Christopher Rath === crath@nortel.ca === (613) 765-3141 === Northern Telecom Ltd. | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: quinonez@ucla.edu (G. Quinonez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PGP software? Date: 22 Mar 1997 08:39:38 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5h05sa$qfq@bolivia.earthlink.net> Hello fellow NeXTStep users. I am not too familiar with PGP mail. However, I have seen quite a bit of it recently. I was wondering if anyone knows of software(free/commercial) that I can use with my NSFIP 3.3? Please respond to quinonez@ucla.edu. Thanks -- _____________________________________________ G. Quinonez, MD <quinonez@ucla.edu> NeXTStep 3.3/Windoze NT 4.0 NeXTMail/SunMail Welcome http://emf.net/~ihouse/Alumni-pages/quinonez/
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: 22 Mar 1997 10:26:26 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5h0c4i$qhs@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <5gufsq$4kai$1@news.inet.tele.dk> Cc: nicolai@post6.tele.dk In <5gufsq$4kai$1@news.inet.tele.dk> "Nicolai Henriksen" wrote: > There is a bug in EnhanceMail 2.0b5 resulting in exactly what you describe. I fixed it > and I think I mailed it to the maintainers of EnhanceMail, but no new version has come > out yet (AFAIK). I can mail you the a fixed version or the source changes (only a few > lines) if you want... That's great! I've received mail from Tom Hageman who told me that he is aware of the bug and is working to correct it. In the meantime, though, feel free to post the few lines of code! And thanks for the help! -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPPMonitor and Openstep Date: 22 Mar 1997 10:30:31 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5h0cc7$qhs@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Anyone else having problems with PPPMonitor under Openstep? I've recently upgraded and PPPMonitor keeps hanging on me -- sometimes it hangs during the starting up of a ppp connection (right after ip-up gets called). Sometimes it won't allow me to quit because it thinks a connection is still active, even when it's not. Just wondering if its me or Openstep... -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: msevestr@simplet4 (SEVESTRE MATTHIEU) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: New NextStep user Date: 24 Mar 1997 07:03:40 GMT Organization: Universite de La Rochelle Message-ID: <5h590c$dj2@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> Sorry for my questions but I'm a new NextStep Owner. I've just purchased NextStep 3.3 for my compuer (a Cyrix P166+ based machine) but I'm having troubles installing it . After booting with the floppy, WNext is asking me about my SCSI hardware. The problem is that I have a full IDE machine. How can I solve this problem? I have a floppy with IDE/ATAPI drivers but how / when can I use it properly? When I choose randomly SCSI hardware for my hard drives and for my CDROM and after I use the IDE floppy disk, I can choose IDE-ATAPI drivers but after, I only have a message: Booting NextStep (or equivalent) and a black screen (isn't it nice!!??) Is anybody able to help me? Thank You. Matt Sevestre.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 04:41:14 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gnBYkuy00iWm01SZg0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> <mitchell.allen-2403970055220001@39.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> In-Reply-To: <mitchell.allen-2403970055220001@39.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 24-Mar-97 Re: Improv look-alike by mitchell.allen@worldnet. > OK, so I'm a total NeXT newbie, but are you telling me that all I have to > do is type: > > Improv UseColorPalette Yes > > in a terminal window and Improv will be in color? Well, you'd have to type "dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes" in a Terminal window, and Improv will be in color. (Assuming, of course, that you have a color machine. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Color-depth-setting application: where? Date: 24 Mar 1997 15:17:41 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5h65ul$ijv@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5h4acc$jt3@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> In-Reply-To: <5h4acc$jt3@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> On 03/23/97, atl2@lehigh.edu wrote: > Hi! > > I seem to recall having had a little application to set the color depth at > which various applications ran. Any hints as to where I could find such a > beast? Or is there a common dwrite? > There's a dwrite, e.g. Terminal NXWindowDepthLimit TwoBitGray Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 24 Mar 1997 15:24:55 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5h66c7$iri@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> In-Reply-To: <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> On 03/23/97, Don Yacktman wrote: > I guess they must have had an advance version of 2.1 available > during development since they do support color... > I seem to recall an interview with one of the Improv developers in which he expressed his surprise when NeXT told him how great his app looked in colour -- "But we didn't write in colour support..." "True, but with PostScript you didn't have to, sir, it just works." Best wishes, mmalc. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: RBrowser startup problem Message-ID: <1997Mar23.120434.487@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: luomat@peak.org Organization: Disorganization References: <199703222225.RAA05733@kira.peak.org> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:04:34 GMT In <199703222225.RAA05733@kira.peak.org> "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > This is a MIME-encapsulated message > If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer > --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* > --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* > --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer First, I'm using a newsreader not a mailer. Second I can see this and I don't see a reason that I must change my newsreader. This kind of junk reminds me to those infamous html postings from netscape-beta.
From: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MSQL version that works with MiniSQLEOFAdaptor? Date: 24 Mar 1997 16:42:11 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <SHAFFER.97Mar24114211@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> Hello, I downloaded the MiniSQLEOFAdaptor from Peak but the ftp address that is given for the correct version of msql gives me "access denied". Here is the address that is giving me problems: ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Vendors/M_Onyschuk_and_Associates_Inc If I can't get this old version, does the latest version (2) of msql work with this adaptor? David Shaffer -- David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 shaffer@phyast.pitt.edu
From: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Samba port for NS 3.3 Date: 24 Mar 1997 12:11:25 +0100 Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Message-ID: <we6n2rtmtnm.fsf@Cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> References: <5ghmdi$4ts@news.sei.cmu.edu> <5h3q4e$6u5$1@netty.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) writes: > lph@sei.cmu.edu (Larry Howard) writes: > > Sorry if this is a FAQ. Thought I'd just check before looking > > at the current Samba distribution. Any porting experiences > > welcome. > > It compiled out of the box for me if I remember rightly... not a problem. At least you have to replace waitpid with wait4, and perhaps getcwd with getwd. Ciao, Stephan -- Task: System Administration Unix (HP-UX, Linux, FreeBSD) Email: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Mail: Abt. 081, MPI bpC, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel: +49 551 201 1 454
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:17:42 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-2403971417430001@31.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> <mitchell.allen-2403970055220001@39.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> <gnBYkuy00iWm01SZg0@andrew.cmu.edu> > > Well, you'd have to type "dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes" in a > Terminal window, and Improv will be in color. (Assuming, of course, > that you have a color machine. :-) > I did it and I got color support in the charting app, but no color in the main app. Mitch
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 24 Mar 1997 19:32:11 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5h6krr$6qr$2@news.xmission.com> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> <mitchell.allen-2403970055220001@39.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> <gnBYkuy00iWm01SZg0@andrew.cmu.edu> <mitchell.allen-2403971417430001@31.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > Well, you'd have to type "dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes" in a > > Terminal window, and Improv will be in color. (Assuming, of course, > > that you have a color machine. :-) > > > I did it and I got color support in the charting app, but no color in the > main app. Yeah. They got that far and then dropped the ball. But color in the charting is better than nothing... It is a real shame this app died. :-( -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 24 Mar 1997 00:36:20 GMT Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Message-ID: <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> abosse@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz wrote: >> >> Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: >> 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus >> >> Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com >> >> Thanks, Stan > >Yes, I'm in the same boat. No driver is available. Maybe someone at NeXT >will re-assure us that the driver is on the "planned" list... > >Arno I also have this card. Would someone like to suggest a different PCI ethernet card? I need a "Combo" card as I will be switching from BNC to twisted pait in 6 months. Thanks, Dan -- --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 Physics Dept., University of Florida Bldg 104 Rm. 5 ---------------------------------------------------------
From: boudra@cimac-res.univ-lyon1.fr (Abdel BOUDRAA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help:display of an image using NXImage class Date: 24 Mar 1997 20:15:19 GMT Organization: UCBL Message-ID: <5h6ncn$5ui@tempo.univ-lyon1.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear colleague: I'd like to find source to display a simple gray level image (not a ps or eps..) using NXImage class. Thanks in advance -------------------- boudra@cimac-res.univ-lyon1.fr
From: s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: No more free WebObjects? Date: 22 Mar 1997 10:32:11 -0500 Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University Distribution: na Message-ID: <5h0u1r$npq@atlas.vcu.edu> References: <33286D2C.3B18@arch.buffalo.edu> jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu writes: >Did NeXT stop offering the free version >of WebObjects? Sigh... All I see is how >to order WebObjects Pro and Enterprise. For academic use, NeXT no longer offers a free copy of WebObjects Pro & Enterprise. Instead, you can order WebObjects Enterprise Academic for $299 from Optimal Object. Again, this is for academic use, not for doing "business" at a university. As for the totally free base version, I don't see it either. ..Bill Chin s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu
From: lewanto@stan.donet.com (Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 22 Mar 1997 15:56:00 GMT Organization: Dayton Ohio Network (DONet, Inc.) Message-ID: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com Thanks, Stan
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:01:12 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <33360A94.3DA4@earthlink.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> <drifterusa-1903972358450001@accs-as802-dp03.atln.grid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Bauer wrote: > (4) Because if Rhapsody flops, we will all have to switch to Wintel. Absolutely not!! I'll use something else!! >Or, more accurately, Microsoft will have that much more power to >single-handedly determine the course of personal computing, >needless to say to the detriment of personal computing. Don't forget, NeXT has been around for quite some time now and it had an extremely small but loyal following of users and developers. Now many of them will be using Rhapsody. If NeXT can hold out for this long with such a small group, I think Apple and the Mac have a good chance of being around much longer than you give credit for. STEVE K.
From: nospamthanx@nowhere.com (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 24 Mar 1997 22:03:32 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5h6tnk$fse@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> In-Reply-To: <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> On 03/23/97, Daniel D. Roscigno wrote: .. Etherlink XL... >I also have this card. Would someone like to suggest a different PCI >ethernet card? I need a "Combo" card as I will be switching from BNC >to twisted pait in 6 months. I've had good success with the Cogent EM 960 and the Inter Etherexpress Pro/10. Both are available in combo versions, and both have solid NS 3.3 drivers. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 24 Mar 1997 21:55:19 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5h6t87$jeh@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> In article <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) writes: > I also have this card. Would someone like to suggest a different PCI > ethernet card? I need a "Combo" card as I will be switching from BNC > to twisted pait in 6 months. Any DECchip21040 (and 21041) based PCI card will do: Cogent PCI SMC EtherPower PCI Linksys PCI: I found one at Best Buy at < $60 There are others too, just look at the detailed specs of prospective cards to see if they refer to the chipset mentioned above. Good luck. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: That nasty MIME garbage in my recentposts(Re: RBrowser startup problem) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:20:58 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970324101404.3299B-100000@kira> References: <199703222225.RAA05733@kira.peak.org> <1997Mar23.120434.487@gamelan.shnet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Thomas Funke <thomas@gamelan.shnet.org> In-Reply-To: <1997Mar23.120434.487@gamelan.shnet.org> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer > > First, I'm using a newsreader not a mailer. Second I can see this and I don't > see a reason that I must change my newsreader. This kind of junk reminds me > to those infamous html postings from netscape-beta. I've already posted about this in csn.hardware, but there's no reason not to repeat it..... This did NOT come from me, but from the mail2news gateway @ antigone.com I sent mail to the admin <mross@antigone.com>, and he has responded that they are in the process of changing their service. I am not sure he grasped the problem (he said "MIME is an accepted standard") and he has not replied to my message back that there was no need to MIME-encapsulate a message that was just plain text. This has screwed me up as well, moreso that just some extra lines in a post, trust me. For now I'm using PINE again until I can get something worked out, but as the old way allows me to catch & squash spammers and crossposters, and use a GUI method rather than PINE, I may go back to it if I cannot find a better solution quickly. If you would like to explain to Mr Ross why this is unacceptable behavior, be my guest. However, he is being made aware of the problem. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ News: (Unconfirmed) Reports that Rhapsody will be based on BSD 4.4, meaning no more 2gig limit, see http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/rhapsody-bsd
From: alcmaeon@one.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT and AT&T Worldnet Date: 25 Mar 1997 01:39:43 GMT Organization: OneNet Communications HUB News Server Message-ID: <5h7acv$n1v@news.one.net> I have been trying to get logged on to AT&T WorldNet from the Cube. I am logged on to another ISP that I have with no trouble, but when I try to get on WorldNet, I get through the UserName and Password stages, but then I get a message something to the effect that: "the serial connection is not 8-bit clean, 0 appears at position 7" Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Mitch
From: alcmaeon@one.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: No more free WebObjects? Date: 25 Mar 1997 01:27:42 GMT Organization: OneNet Communications HUB News Server Message-ID: <5h79me$n1v@news.one.net> References: <5h0u1r$npq@atlas.vcu.edu> <33286D2C.3B18@arch.buffalo.edu> > > For academic use, NeXT no longer offers a free copy of WebObjects > Pro & Enterprise. Instead, you can order WebObjects Enterprise > Academic for $299 from Optimal Object. Again, this is for > academic use, not for doing "business" at a university. > > As for the totally free base version, I don't see it either. Did you fellows look at: ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/SoftwareDownloads/WebObjects-2.0/ I didn't do the DL, but it looks like WO 2.0 is there for the DLing. Mitch
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: Arno Bosse <abosse@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: zlewanto@stan.donet.com Organization: Univ. of Chicago References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:58:21 GMT Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz wrote: > > Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: > 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus > > Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com > > Thanks, Stan Yes, I'm in the same boat. No driver is available. Maybe someone at NeXT will re-assure us that the driver is on the "planned" list... Arno
From: lph@sei.cmu.edu (Larry Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: VirtSpace by Pinnacle Research: Can it be had? Date: 25 Mar 1997 06:01:19 GMT Organization: Software Engineering Institute Message-ID: <5h7pnf$8vb@news.sei.cmu.edu> Interested in the commercial version. Is it available? -- Larry Howard Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon University lph@sei.cmu.edu (NeXTmail/MIME) (412) 268-6397
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Message-ID: <E7ECoA.8tD@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:09:46 GMT In article <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu>, you wrote: >Improv had many nice features, such as being able to construct formulas >that look like English. May it rest in peace. Of all the spreadsheets >out there in 1997, on whatever platform, which is most Improv-like in >terms of look and feel? Improv of course. I bought Improv for Windows recently. They still sell it. And for NEXTSTEP it seems that Quantrix is close. -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703221536.KAA02013@kira.peak.org> From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 10:35:59 -0500 Subject: 'id' for NeXTStep (and a bunch of my scripts made available) Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055070==antigone.sonic.net==__" This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055070==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055070==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055070==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A small announcement not worthy of csn.announce: I hacked up a small /bin/sh script to provide 'id' information for NeXTStep (and I assume OpenStep as well... it uses 'nidump'). I've also had some request and curiosity about how I got interested in scripting, and so I've made about 35 new scripts available (of about 250 I've got on my machine to do everything from the trivial to the borders-on-interesting.... Anyway, if you are interested, checkout my NeXT page http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ (goto 'scripts') If you don't have web access, you can get the 'id' script by sending me an email message with the SUBJECT send-mime id And you can get a list of the currently available files by sending me an email message with the SUBJECT send_current_list I found the book "Inside UNIX" to be very helpful. Here's the information: Title: Inside UNIX Authors: Chris Hare, Emmett Dulaney, George Eckel, Steven Lee, Lee Ray Publisher: New Riders Publishing Indianapolis, Indiana Year: 1994 Pages: 1194 ISBN: 1-56205-401-5 Cover price: USD $39.99 (includes 3.5 disk with scripts) If you're aware of common UNIX-utilities which are not available for NeXTStep, please let me know. (Of course the GNU versions are usually available, but I wasn't able to find the source code to GNU's 'id' to see if it would work on NeXTStep... and I assume it wouldn't understand NetInfo) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor --__==========00000000055070==antigone.sonic.net==__--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703222225.RAA05733@kira.peak.org> In-Reply-To: 698ae42bed624efbc22f6b01bdd75acf - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 17:25:16 -0500 Subject: Re: RBrowser startup problem Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 698ae42bed624efbc22f6b01bdd75acf - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__" This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Responding To: nimno@Walden.mo.net (John Bartley) Original Date: 20 Mar 1997 18:08:27 GMT Message-ID: 698ae42bed624efbc22f6b01bdd75acf - > I've been using RBrowser for a long time at home with no problems. > However, I can't seem to get very far at the office and don't know > what the problem is. As soon as I launch it, an error panel pops up > that says: "mkdir failed:Permission denied." It is trying to make files in /tmp perhaps? If so I don't know why it is failing. Or maybe "~/.AppInfo/RBrowser/" ?? (but this should be made already). Check permissions on ~/.AppInfo and ~/.AppInfo/RBrowser. I've just emailed Robert Vasvari <vrobi@ddrummer.com> a few days ago about RBrowser, so you might try him also. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703222228.RAA05788@kira.peak.org> In-Reply-To: c26689c0c7a57b97a542a5c2b6199f1e - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 17:28:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Workspace refresh rate Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: c26689c0c7a57b97a542a5c2b6199f1e - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055100==antigone.sonic.net==__" This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055100==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055100==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055100==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Responding To: Chang Song <song@ctc.com> Original Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: c26689c0c7a57b97a542a5c2b6199f1e - > I was wondering if anyone know dwrite for refresh rate of Workspace > file manager. For example, if I copy a file from Terminal it takes > a while for the file appear in the file manager. No, there isn't, as far as I know. However, if you have/get TickleServices, it comes with a nifty little commandline binary called "WSNotify" that will update the WM for you. You would use it like this: # cp file ~ && WSNotify or in zsh I would set up this function: cp () { /bin/cp $* WSNotify } so it would run WSNotify automatically. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor --__==========00000000055100==antigone.sonic.net==__--
From: s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 22 Mar 1997 23:17:58 -0500 Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University Distribution: na Message-ID: <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> writes: >Improv had many nice features, such as being able to construct formulas >that look like English. May it rest in peace. Of all the spreadsheets >out there in 1997, on whatever platform, which is most Improv-like in >terms of look and feel? Quantrix by Lighthouse Design for NEXTSTEP. Assuming they're still selling it (it's not visible on their web page, but a demo is located at their ftp site - ftp.lighthouse.com). It seems to work well under OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach but they haven't committed to porting to OPENSTEP - Rhapsody, Solaris or otherwise.. It can even import Improv .imx files and it's part of Lighthouse's $99 Academic CD. It's an awesome spreadsheet, a definitely nice upgrade from Improv. It still amazes me that Lotus did only one release of Improv for NEXTSTEP (before NEXTSTEP has color or faxing even) and how solid it remained throughout the years. ..Bill Chin s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <608858488427@digifix.com> Date: 23 Mar 1997 05:00:18 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <3027859093225@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: mateev@ifor.math.ethz.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help: NextStep -> Openstep Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:31:51 GMT Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ) Message-ID: <5h8nkn$o1o$2@elna.ethz.ch> Hi, We just got Openstep for WindowsNT in our institute and I'd like to convert some Next code into Openstep. So far I know there exist tool for that, but I cannot find them. Can anybody help me ? Thanks, Bojidar
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 25 Mar 97 09:25:18 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar25092518@howard.one.net> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> <mitchell.allen-2403970055220001@39.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> In-reply-to: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net's message of Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:55:21 -0500 mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net writes: In article <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com>, don@globalobjects.com wrote: > For folks who may not know, you _can_ turn color on in Improv > with this dwrite: > > Improv UseColorPalette Yes > > I guess they must have had an advance version of 2.1 available > during development since they do support color... OK, so I'm a total NeXT newbie, but are you telling me that all I have to do is type: Improv UseColorPalette Yes in a terminal window and Improv will be in color? Heavens, no. Even NeXTSTEP is not _that_ easy. You have to type: dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes :-), -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Blake LeBaron <blake@ai.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems installing Openstep Enterprise for NT Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:18:53 -0800 Organization: University of Wisconsin Message-ID: <3338170D.911@ai.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've recently been trying to install the Openstep Enterprise (4.1) package on my NT(4.0) machine, and the install came back with a few errors which I was wondering if anyone else has bumped into. At the end of the install I get the following message: The following errors occured during installation: Failed to create program group: OPENSTEP Enterprise: -1, Failed to create c:\NeXT\NextLibrary\System\Windowserver.exe, c:\NeXT\NextLibrary\Frameworks\AppKit.framework\Resources\pbs.exe Just wondering if anyone else has seen anything like this. Thanks, Blake LeBaron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: <cancel.19970325182000.NAA27477@ladder01.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <19970325182000.NAA27477@ladder01.news.aol.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <19970325182000.NAA27477@ladder01.news.aol.com> no reply ignore Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:21:04 GMT Sender: dilbertbc@aol.com (DilbertBC) ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark.
From: cchris@capt.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with OmniWeb Date: 22 Mar 1997 00:02:06 GMT Organization: Hooked Online Services Message-ID: <5gv7hu$k2p$1@its.hooked.net> Greetings, I am trying to install OmniWeb 2.5 beta 2 on my Nextstation color Turbo. I am also using PPP 2.2 and DialUp 1.2.1. DialUp will connect to my provider and OmniWeb launches OK. Most of the time when I click on a link OmniWeb gives the message "HTTP:Connecting to xyz" and then nothing else happens. It will do this for every link. After a short while the connection is dropped. Occassionally, however, it will download a page (or two) successfully but it then starts to give the message (in red) "Temporarily unable to connect:Network is unreachable." It will now give this for *any* link, even the ones that it linked to before. After a few attempts the connection is dropped. I used HostManager to configure as follows: Local Configuration NetInfo Binding > use local domain only x Readable only by local net Hostname > cybersoft NIS Domain Name > None Internet Information Internet Address > 127.0.0.1 Broadcast address > default Time statndard > ignore network time Netmask > default Router > none I recall someone else having a problem like this. Any idea what is wrong? Thanks for any help. Chris <cchris@hooked.net>
From: s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: REQ: Openstep help? Date: 23 Mar 1997 11:06:46 -0500 Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h3kem$ueq@atlas.vcu.edu> References: <3330157D.60AF@accessicg.com> Douglas Hardman <dhardman@accessicg.com> writes: >Anyone have a copy of OpenStep 4.0 for the Intel Architecture. Is there >somewhere I can download it, and run it BEORE I spend thousands of >dollars on the OS. OPENSTEP 4.1 is the current version, with 4.2 coming out Real Soon Now. No, like most commercial operating systems, a demonstration is not available, nor is the product available for downloading. However, buying a copy of OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel User version is $800. It's developer that costs so much. In addition, Apple is most likely going to change the pricing model - I don't see most of Apple's user base paying $800 for the OS and thousands for the developer. You can certainly download NeXT's whitepapers and on-line documentation. In addition, you may be able to locate a nearby NeXT users's group or just someone willing to show you OPENSTEP. BTW, are you looking at OPENSTEP for Windows NT or OPENSTEP for Mach? You should also give NeXT's sales offices a call. >Is there support for it anywhere? I have alot of >questions, and would appreciate some direction from anyone. Thanks! Support, like most commercial OS's, is offered in several ways: You can get support contracts from Apple. You can hire OPENSTEP/NEXTSTEP consultants. You can ask in comp.sys.next.*. You can find documentation of all sorts on http://www.next.com/ You can look up additional information at http://www.stepwise.com/ Good luck, ..Bill Chin
From: nagendra@cs.bu.edu (nagendra mishr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: snd <--> wav converter Date: 25 Mar 1997 20:14:30 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Message-ID: <5h9bn6$9ie@news.bu.edu> I'm looking for a conversion program which will take the snd recorded from the Next box and output a windows wav file... Anyone know where to get something like this? I'm using a next slab to do my recordings. thanks in advance Nagendra Mishr n@4i.com
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Samba port for NS 3.3 Date: 23 Mar 1997 17:43:42 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@nicecuppa.ohm.york.ac.uk Message-ID: <5h3q4e$6u5$1@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <5ghmdi$4ts@news.sei.cmu.edu> lph@sei.cmu.edu (Larry Howard) writes: > Sorry if this is a FAQ. Thought I'd just check before looking > at the current Samba distribution. Any porting experiences > welcome. It compiled out of the box for me if I remember rightly... not a problem. -bat.
From: tpali@everx.szbk.u-szeged.hu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tibor_L=E1szlo_P=E1li?=) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.iris-explorer,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: modular apps development Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:21:19 +0100 Organization: Biological Research Centre, Szeged, Hungary Message-ID: <19970323192119365839@esrmac00.szbk.u-szeged.hu> Hi, I am considering to purchase some sort of modular and graphical application development system fo unix. Until now three options came to mind: IRIS Explorer, SIMULINK, and LabView (is this also on unix?). The main purpose would be off line spectrum handling and curve fitting to user defined procedures. Flexibility, speed and easy programming would be the main concern. I would welcome suggestions as to what package should I have a closer look at or if there would be other candidates. Thanks, -- Tibor Szeged, Hungary
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 23 Mar 1997 20:47:46 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) wrote: > [...]. It still amazes me that Lotus did only one release of > Improv for NEXTSTEP (before NEXTSTEP has color or faxing even) > and how solid it remained throughout the years. For folks who may not know, you _can_ turn color on in Improv with this dwrite: Improv UseColorPalette Yes I guess they must have had an advance version of 2.1 available during development since they do support color... -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: Wei Li <wli@cs.uah.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica 2.0 for NeXTStation: $40 shipped Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:21:28 -0600 Organization: The University of Alabama in Huntsville Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970325212053.3873B-100000@pluto> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have one copy of Mathematica 2.0 for NeXTStation (original floppies) for sale: $40 shipped. Please drop me a line at "wli@cs.uah.edu" if you are interested. Thanks. -wei, wli@cs.uah.edu
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: snd <--> wav converter Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:46:53 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970325194607.11642A-100000@kira> References: <5h9bn6$9ie@news.bu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: nagendra mishr <nagendra@cs.bu.edu> In-Reply-To: <5h9bn6$9ie@news.bu.edu> checkout ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/soundapps/GISO.3.3.NIHS.bs.tar.gz aka http://www.peak.org/next/apps/soundapps/GISO.3.3.NIHS.bs.tar.gz TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ News: (Unconfirmed) Reports that Rhapsody will be based on BSD 4.4, meaning no more 2gig limit, see http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/rhapsody-bsd
From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 23 Mar 1997 21:37:22 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5h47qi$bm3$1@shadow.skypoint.net> References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> In-Reply-To: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> On 03/22/97, Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz wrote: >Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: > 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus > >Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com > >Thanks, Stan > I have been in touch with the NeXT Tech support group on this. I am an EAP. The story I am getting is that it is being writen wtih NO timeframe till beta release yet. May be if we all keep up a weekly reminder effort we will ge their attention. Send email to Mark Tacchi <mtacchi@next.com> and Marc Driftmeyer <Marc_Driftmeyer@next.com> If you hear of any drivers for this card please let me know and visa versa. Thanks -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ###############################################################
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: snd <--> wav converter Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7Mqqp.53s@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:54:25 GMT References: <5h9bn6$9ie@news.bu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5h9bn6$9ie@news.bu.edu>, nagendra mishr <nagendra@cs.bu.edu> wrote: >I'm looking for a conversion program which will take the snd recorded >from the Next box and output a windows wav file... > Poke around Peanuts (http://peanuts.leo.org/) for Giso.app. It's a graphical front-end to sox that will let you convert anything to anything. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703232002.PAA11954@kira.peak.org> In-Reply-To: df1b89cccf9266a13b5bc4c6da073259 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 97 15:02:13 -0500 Subject: Re: PGP software? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: df1b89cccf9266a13b5bc4c6da073259 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* Responding To: quinonez@ucla.edu (G. Quinonez) Original Date: 22 Mar 1997 08:39:38 GMT Message-ID: df1b89cccf9266a13b5bc4c6da073259 - > I am not too familiar with PGP mail. However, I have seen quite a > bit of it recently. I was wondering if anyone knows of > software(free/commercial) that I can use with my NSFIP 3.3? here is a start ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/NXPGP.1.1.2.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/pgpservice.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/EnhanceMail.2.0b5.NIHS.bs.tar.gz These all allow for use of PGP, but do not include PGP itself.... You'll have to get that from MIT (see their web page). TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 13 Mar 1997 18:57:23 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> Cc: warnock@adobe.com In <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> SHEPPARD GORDON wrote: > Apple's OS Man Is On The Spot; Software Writers Want NeXt-Based System To Do > The Near-Impossible > 03/12/97 > San Francisco Examiner > > Warnock said Adobe had told Tevanian that Apple must change its plans for > Rhapsody. As first explained in January, Apple said Rhapsody would have two > separate environments, which it called the blue box and the yellow box. > > At the time, Apple said Rhapsody's blue box would let the new OS run > current Mac programs, be they word processors or desktop publishing software. > The yellow box, by contrast, would be the environment in which to create new > and more powerful Mac programs. > > But to take advantage of the power inside the yellow box, developers would > have to rewrite their programs from scratch. > > Warnock said Wednesday that "Adobe is not interested in rewriting its > applications" for the yellow box. That would take too much time and money. > Instead, he wants Tevanian to engineer Rhapsody so programs like Photoshop > can use some features in the blue box and some in the yellow box, and not get > stuck in one or the other. > > "There needs to be a middle ground," he said. "If Apple makes some > compromises in the (blue) box, it would save a huge amount of time on our > part." > > Stephen Howard, who has followed Apple's operating system saga for MacWeek > magazine, was surprised by Warnock's comments. He said the Copland project > had failed because it had tried to do what Warnock seemed to want from > Rhapsody - to make old programs ran on a new operating system, only better. > My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate opinion, and that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. Don't cripple/compromise the architecture in a way we already know can kill the entire project with an overcomplex architecture. I will buy a "pure" Rhapsody. I guarantee that. If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on Rhapsody. Period. If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a similar public statement. Don't let the whiners make terrorist threats against the future of the platform. (I don't know if warnock@adobe.com works, but I'm cc'ing this there) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: dnmetz@REMOVEintergate.bc.ca (David Metz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:38:04 -0700 Organization: Internet Gateway Corporation Message-ID: <199703252238041580920@pm6s2.intergate.bc.ca> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> Jonathan Hendry <jon@subsequent.com> wrote: > (Of course, I think Warnock's bluffing. Anyone care to check Adobe's > IRS filings to see what percentage of their revenue comes from Mac > software?) I think so to. Anyone know how the negotiations on licensing Display Postscript are going? (gone?) -- David Metz dnmetz@intergate.bc.ca
From: "Steven Kornreich" <steve@eps.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Best Emulation Software for epson inkjet printer? Date: 26 Mar 1997 02:23:24 GMT Organization: Kornreich Communications Inc. Message-ID: <01bc398c$ab94ed80$f2d49ace@pro.papio.com> Can someone recommend a good emulation software to run under ns 4.0 for intel to drive my new epson color 800 inkjet printer? Thanks steve@eps.com
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: 18 Mar 1997 17:48:34 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> I've just made the switch to Openstep and I'm experiencing odd behavior in Mail 4.1. Just wondering if anyone out there has experienced the same... When composing messages, my signature gets wiped out if I select "Rich Text" or "Mime" mail. Likewise, if I have "Reply in same format" set in Mail's preferences, when I press the "Reply To" button my signature gets wiped out, and it text messages always get replied to in NeXTMail. Finally, I have both .signature and .signature.rtf files and only the ..signature file seems to get recognized by Mail. BTW, I have EnhanceMail (2.0b5). Anyone else notice this? -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: atl2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Color-depth-setting application: where? Date: 23 Mar 1997 22:21:00 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h4acc$jt3@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> Hi! I seem to recall having had a little application to set the color depth at which various applications ran. Any hints as to where I could find such a beast? Or is there a common dwrite? Regards, Alex ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: no@spam.com (Stefan J. Huelf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rhapsody - Whatshallmacallit Date: 25 Mar 1997 21:08:23 GMT Organization: Pelikan & Partner, Hamburg, Germany Message-ID: <5h9es7$1ij@news.ppp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I thought I would start the name-finding-session early for the May97 deadline at the WWDC: Here are some of my ideas: AppleStep 5.0 MacStep 5.0 OpenApple 5.0 OpenMaC 5.0 AppleObjects 5.0 AppleCore 5.0 MacCore 5.0 Mac NT 5.0 Apple NT 5.0 Apple NB 5.0 (Apple NewBase) NewBase Mac 5.0 Appleland 5.0 PowerMac OS 5.0 MacMove 5.0 AppleJam 5.0 MacJam 5.0 ApplePie 5.0 MoveMac 5.0 MacNewDimension 5.0 MacLook 98 UltraMac Step 2000 (Capitalization may vary) I had about 30 more names but as the Internet broadwith is limited... I thought: What the heck... ;-) _______________________________________________________________________ Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with APPLESTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news Definition of Apple ´97: "NeXT genes in Apple´s body!" _______________________________________________________________________
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: setup sendmail to forward???? Date: 26 Mar 1997 04:27:42 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <5ha8ju$f8o$1@news3.voicenet.com> I have e NeXT box acting as a firewall for me....but I want it to pass all incoming mail to another server on the inside of the firewall, likewise to pass all mail outgoing. How can I do this? -Darren
From: "Erik D. Schminke" <edschminke@willmar.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Hacking a NeXT Mach System Date: 23 Mar 1997 19:06:05 GMT Organization: MEANS Message-ID: <01bc37bc$a9a0d380$ca3a0ace@schminke.willmar.com> I would like some questions answered by any hackers out there willing to help. My school runs a NeXT Mach system and someone hacked into it using one of the so called "default accounts". Please take a look at what was done. The website is at http://willmar.k12.cfa.org/. I expect that this page will be take down and returned to what it was before, as soon as it is discovered, so I made a copy of the page and put it at http://www.willmar.com/~schminke/willmar/. Please check one of these pages and then explain how to this was do to me via e-mail. My address is edschminke@willmar.com Thank you, -- Erik Schminke (edschminke@willmar.com)
From: Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:45:41 -0800 Organization: Western Washington University Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: warnock@adobe.com In-Reply-To: <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> On 13 Mar 1997, John Rudd wrote: > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists > (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this > market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ > the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, take > a look." > > If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should continue his > current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. Your absolutly right. I've been wondering if what has been printed might be being taken out of context in the original article. It just dosent seem to jive with other noises coming from Adobe and Apple. The recent agreements about DPS/PS and Acrobate/Webobjects integration for instance. These are two companies combining some powerful code in order to strenghten themselves in the marketplace. Why would Adobe lock itself out of one of it most lucrative markets? I think that _maybe_ (hopefully?) Warnock is toalingonly about immediate integration. Wouldn't they port to Rhapsody in the next update--unless they plan on abandoning the mac completely. Given the agreements mentiioned above, Adobe's getting even closer to Apple however. Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. Mr. Warnock, I truly hope you rethink your stance on suporting your products in the Unified release of Rhapsody. The structure of the new OS seems to make it the perfect publishing platform--not only for pre-press but also online. I fully intend to move over to the new OS immediatly upon its release. If your company fails to port its products to the "Yellow Box", I will take my buisness elsewhere. Thankyou for your time, Robb Lincoln
From: carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniImageFilter Help! Message-ID: <1997Mar23.224217.2317@juncol.juniata.edu> Date: 23 Mar 97 22:42:17 -0500 Organization: Juniata College, Huntingdon, PA -- USA I am running NS 3.0, and OmniWeb 1.0. I have downloaded and installed OmniImageFilter. How do I get OmniWeb to use the ImageFilter to translate images? I still can't view non-NeXT images. Please e-mail help. -Bill Carlisle carlisle@juniata.edu
From: Jonathan Hendry <jon@subsequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:43:19 -0500 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robb Lincoln wrote: > Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... > Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help 'pay for the ports'. He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money.
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:55:21 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-2403970055220001@39.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> In article <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com>, don@globalobjects.com wrote: > s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) wrote: > > [...]. It still amazes me that Lotus did only one release of > > Improv for NEXTSTEP (before NEXTSTEP has color or faxing even) > > and how solid it remained throughout the years. > > For folks who may not know, you _can_ turn color on in Improv > with this dwrite: > > Improv UseColorPalette Yes > > I guess they must have had an advance version of 2.1 available > during development since they do support color... > OK, so I'm a total NeXT newbie, but are you telling me that all I have to do is type: Improv UseColorPalette Yes in a terminal window and Improv will be in color? Mitch
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing software Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:01:08 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <3335FC84.6950@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What software is available that will allow OPENSTEP to print to non-Postscript printers? --gh
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Ghostscript Print Filter Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:41:43 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <3339A627.7EBA@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to install GSPrint Filter so that I can print to a non-Postscript printer. After installing the GSFilter and GSsetup packages, the instructions say to run the provided GSFilter.postinstall script. However there is no postinstall script anywhere. Has anyone else run accross this? How can this be resolved? --Greg
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LAPACK Date: 17 Mar 1997 21:59:24 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gkers$qpd@cocoa.brown.edu> I just got NetLib's LaPack from Walnut Creek. LaPack is a bunch of Linear Algebra subrutines written in ForTran77. I have Absoft's ForTran compiler but I cannot run the make file successfully. Any insite will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Andrew andrew@cfm.brown.edu
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:08:25 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <332DF908.4AEE@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl wrote: > > There are a few nextstep apps that make themselves or others the active > window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver (activating > Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. Of course, while the app is starting Yeah, Opener.app really annoys me...can't we have an option for it to stay in the BACKGROUND? That would be SOOO nice. -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody - Whatshallmacallit Date: 28 Mar 1997 05:43:59 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm097-05.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5hflqv$9et$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5h9es7$1ij@news.ppp.net> Cc: no@spam.com In <5h9es7$1ij@news.ppp.net> Stefan J. Huelf wrote: > Hi, > I thought I would start the name-finding-session early for the May97 deadline > at the WWDC: > > Here are some of my ideas: > It's silly, but I played with possible names too. And kinda liked MacMach. Not really ... :-)))) Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: <lumina@magi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Workspace width Date: 28 Mar 1997 11:13:23 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <5hg94j$7vp@news.istar.ca> Hell; Anyone know how to readjust the screen width ? Black Cube AND color monitor Could be the monitor, the width seems to be slowly getting worse ! thanks Rob
From: m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Preview.app - sending delayed facsimiles Date: 25 Mar 1997 15:39:36 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Message-ID: <5h8rjo$4b9@hagen.amg.de> Hi NeXTFolks, I've got a question about the Fax-Panel in the Preview.app: It isn't possible to send a fax LATER (I don't know the exact label of the button, because I am using the German edition of NEXTSTEP) in the Fax-Panel in Preview.app (the curious thing about this is, that it works in any other App, but not in Preview...) Does anyone know a workaround, a unix-tool or something else to make Preview send a fax at a LATER point of time ?? Thanks a lot, Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de)
From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: !!! ATTENTION ALL DEVELOPERS !!! + Localization Date: 28 Mar 1997 14:46:55 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5hglkv$2vi@supernews.login.net> References: <19970325011500.UAA11589@ladder01.news.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <19970325011500.UAA11589@ladder01.news.aol.com> Software products made available in foreign languages are an important part of their success as well as Rhapsody's. If you are planning development of products for Rhapsody (software, hardware, documentation), I will be pleased to supply you with a FREE estimate of localization cost to French. Distribution, CD burning (in large or small quantities), and financial arrangements are possible. Cheers, André Lalonde <tralala@mlink.net> (NeXTMail - MIME - ASCII ) Experienced NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP translator since 1991. -------------------------------------------------- On 03/24/97, Strange55 wrote: > Develop for OpenStep now, and your code can be reused in Rhapsody, Apple's > new OS in the wings...I know they haven't been making this clear, but it's > true! > > Documentation and info for developing for OpenStep (and therefore, > Rhapsody) is available at: > > http://www.next.com/Pubs/Documents/Download/apple.html > > Step to it, guys! > > P.S. Everybody forward this message to any newsgroups or software > companies they know of...we need to help Apple out, and make the > transition to Rhapsody real easy... >
From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Best Emulation Software for epson inkjet printer? Date: 26 Mar 1997 18:03:06 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5hbocq$k59@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bc398c$ab94ed80$f2d49ace@pro.papio.com> In-Reply-To: <01bc398c$ab94ed80$f2d49ace@pro.papio.com> Hello Steve: JetPilot 2.3 ============ 14. June 1996 JetPilot is the solution for most printing problems. It allows to use the inexpensive BubbleJet printers as well as a selection of the most popular laser printers. No need for slow or expensive PostScript printers, just use any supported standard printer. But even for PS printers it is a speed improvement. SPECIAL: Now includes an enhanced driver for the NeXT laser. THE PACKAGE =========== JetPilot.2.3.NIHS.b.tar.gz Quad FAT Package JetPilot.2.3.NI.b.tar.gz NeXT and Intel architecture only JetPilot.2.3.HS.b.tar.gz HP-PA RISC and SUN SPARC architecture only Contents: ../Documents/ directory with several notes ../JetPilotDriver.2.3.pkg the driver package ../JetPilotManager.2.3.pkg manager software package FIXED IN 2.3 ================ ƒ Printing on some of the newer Epson printers like the StylusXLPro got wrong paper settings and caused strange behavior, like additionals paperfeeds. ƒ BugFix in the StylusColorDriver. Printing with error diffusion and 720dpi and a splitting threshold like 4 and 8 could causes a PostScript error. ƒ Printing with enabled page splitting could render splits with different printing settings. ƒ If JetPilot should print on different printer types via the same comm class, it sometimes works just for the first one printer. The only workaround was rebooting the system. ƒ Wrong settings for the older LaserJet Printers like LaserJet II and III. Printouts looked damaged. ƒ Some printer defaults couldn`t be saved from JetPilotManager. ƒ If pagesplitting is enabled, sometimes local printing of documents with 10 or more pages could stop after a few pages. NEW IN 2.3 ================ ƒ new HP LaserJets 5, 5L, 5M, 5P, 5N, 5MP, 5Si and 5SiMX added. ƒ new HP DeskJets 820C and 680C added. ƒ Epson StylusColor IIs, LQ150 and LQ300 added. ƒ NeXT Laser Printer added. ƒ Nice level added to control system performance. ƒ Added a IPCFile comm class to the driver, which enables to print to a file instead to a printer. The file includes all printer settings for the specifiied printer. ƒ Enhanced the ipc comm classes for debuging purpose. There is a verbose mode which can be enabled via PrinterManager. This feature is just for the case you ran into problems. SUPPORTED PRINTERS ================== This is a list of printers which are supported namely. If you have a printer which is not on this list, but offers a "compatible" mode, simply select the printer, which seems to be most likely. (all without warranty) NeXTLaser Yes the original NeXT Laser printer Canon_BJ most Canon Ink Jet printers Canon_BJ_Color most Canon Ink Jet Color printers Canon_BJ-10sx portable Canon Ink Jet Canon_BJC4000 Canon BJC4000 printer Canon_BJC70 Canon BJC70 printer Canon_BJC800 Canon BJC800 printer Canon_BJC610 Canon BJC610 printer HP_DeskJet DeskJet Classic HP_DeskJetPlus DeskJet Plus HP_DeskJet_310 portable DeskJet 310 mono HP_DeskJet_310C portable DeskJet 310 with color option HP_DeskJet_320 portable DeskJet 320 mono HP_DeskJet_320C portable DeskJet 320 with color option HP_DeskJet_340 portable DeskJet 340 mono HP_DeskJet_340C portable DeskJet 340 with color option HP_DeskJet_500 DeskJet 500 mono HP_DeskJet_500C DeskJet 500C color HP_DeskJet_510 DeskJet 510 mono HP_DeskJet_520 DeskJet 520 mono HP_DeskJet_540 DeskJet 540 mono HP_DeskJet_540C DeskJet 540 with color option HP_DeskJet_550C DeskJet 550C color HP_DeskJet_560C DeskJet 560C color HP_DeskJet_600 DeskJet 600 mono HP_DeskJet_600C DeskJet 600 with color option HP_DeskJet_660C DeskJet 660C color HP_DeskJet_680C DeskJet 680C color HP_DeskJet_820C DeskJet 820C color HP_DeskJet_850C DeskJet 850C color HP_DeskJet_1200C DeskJet 1200C color HP_DeskJet_1200C_PS DeskJet 1200C color PostScript HP_DeskJet_1600C DeskJet 1600C color HP_DeskJet_1600C_PS DeskJet 1600C color PostScript Epson_LQ EPSON LQ driver Epson_EscP/2 most Pin Writers (not only EPSON) Epson_LQ150 EPSON LQ 150 driver Epson_LQ300 EPSON LQ 300 driver Epson_Stylus300 EPSON Stylus 300 driver Epson_Stylus400 EPSON Stylus 400 driver Epson_Stylus800 EPSON Stylus 800 driver Epson_Stylus800plus EPSON Stylus 800+ driver Epson_Stylus1000 EPSON Stylus 1000 driver Epson_StylusColor EPSON Stylus Color 720 dpi Epson_StylusColor II EPSON Stylus Color II 720 dpi Epson_StylusColor IIs EPSON Stylus Color IIs 360 dpi Epson_StylusColorPro EPSON Stylus Color Pro 720 dpi Epson_StylusColorProXL EPSON Stylus Color Pro XL 720 dpi HP_LaserJet LaserJet Classic HP_LaserJetII LaserJet II HP_LaserJetIIP LaserJet IIp HP_LaserJetIII LaserJet III HP_LaserJetIIIP LaserJet IIIp HP_LaserJet_4 LaserJet 4 HP_LaserJet_4Plus LaserJet 4 plus HP_LaserJet_4L LaserJet 4L HP_LaserJet_4M LaserJet 4 PostScript HP_LaserJet_4MPlus LaserJet 4 plus PostScript HP_LaserJet_4ML LaserJet 4L PostScript HP_LaserJet_4MP LaserJet 4p PostScript HP_LaserJet_4P LaserJet 4p HP_LaserJet_4Si LaserJet 4Si HP_LaserJet_4MSi LaserJet 4Si PostScript HP_LaserJet_4V LaserJet 4V (DIN A3) HP_LaserJet_4MV LaserJet 4V PostScript HP_LaserJet_5 LaserJet 5 HP_LaserJet_5L LaserJet 5L HP_LaserJet_5M LaserJet 5M HP_LaserJet_5MP LaserJet 5MP HP_LaserJet_5N LaserJet 5N HP_LaserJet_5P LaserJet 5P HP_LaserJet_5Si LaserJet 5Si HP_LaserJet_5SiMX LaserJet 5SiMX HP_ColorLaserJet ColorLaserJet INSTALLATION ============ Remove all previouse JetPilot releases. You have to be root to install the driver. Unpack the ftp stuff: gunzip JetPilot.2.3.NIHS.b.tar.gz tar -xf JetPilot.2.3.NIHS.b.tar Then follow the installation guide in the supplied ../Documents directory. DEMO LICENSE ============ Just start the JetPilotManager.app and follow the license system into the license panel. There you may press the button DEMO. With the integrated order system you may also order a time limited but unrestricted demo license. PRICE & LICENSE =============== This copy of JetPilot runs in a demo mode and can be licensed by ordering a key via e-mail or fax. Of course this product is distributed by all major NEXTSTEP resellers. The license is valid for all supported printers and one certain machine/print server. JetPilot 2.3 198.00 US$ JetPilot 2.3 Academic 98.00 US$ JetPilot4NeXT 2.3 (NeXTLaser) no fee Update 1.x -> 2.x 50.00 US$ Europe shipping 10.00 US$ International shipping 18.00 US$ just license key, mail/fax no fee Members of the EU + 15% VAT UPDATES ======= An update from earlier release to 2.3 can be ordered directly from us. Please don't mix 1.x and 2.x releases in a network. You need NEXTSTEP 3.2, or higher in order to use JetPilot. If you have an earlier release please contact us for a special release. I resell it for Jens the developer here in the US, you can download and run it in demo mode to try it before your buy it! If interested please email me at bhi1@ix.netcom.com Best Regards Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated On 03/25/97, "Steven Kornreich" wrote: >Can someone recommend a good emulation software to run under ns 4.0 for >intel to drive my new epson color 800 inkjet printer? > >Thanks > >steve@eps.com > > -- {\rtf0\ansi{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss Helvetica;} \paperw9840 \paperh8400 \margl120 \margr120 \pard\tx520\tx1060\tx1600\tx2120\tx2660\tx3200\tx3720\tx4260\tx4800\tx5320\f0\b0\i0\ulnone\fs24\fc0\cf0 Best regards: \ \ Rob Blessin\ President\ Black Hole, Incorporated\ 748 Poplar St.\ Denver , CO 80220\ \ 303-393-6419\ 303-320-0949\ \ http://www.blackholeinc.com/\ \ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine\ \ Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993. }
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Workspace width Date: 28 Mar 1997 18:44:50 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5hh3j2$h9c@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5hg94j$7vp@news.istar.ca> lumina@magi.com wrote: >Anyone know how to readjust the screen width ? >Black Cube AND color monitor Black Cube + color monitor = NeXTdimension! Are you sure this is what you have? _mono_ MegaPixel monitors can be adjusted by pulling off the back cover and poking around with a screwdriver, making sure not to kill yourself in the process. This is documented in a FAQ (both how to adjust it and how not to kill yourself!). If you indeed have a NeXTdimension system with a color monitor then your best bet would be to take the monitor to a TV shop and have them look at it - I don't believe any of the color monitors are easily user adjustable, at least nobody has ever posted anything about how to do it. - Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu PS - If you do have a NeXTcube and it happens to be a turbo (33MHz) will you sell me your motherbaord. I'm desparate for one! :-)
From: Glen Foster <gfoster@pete.intr.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.protocols.smb Subject: need help compiling Samba on Next 3.2 Followup-To: comp.protocols.smb Date: 28 Mar 1997 14:33:16 -0500 Organization: Internet Interstate Message-ID: <loencz4xs3.fsf@pete.intr.net> Compiling Samba 1.9.16p7 on NeXTstep 3.2 fails at linking with: ld: Undefined symbols: _waitpid *** Exit 1 I am compiling only for m68k and with the flags as shown in the Makefile for Next 3.0 and above. Can anybody help me with this? TIA, Glen Foster <gfoster@gfoster.com>
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WordPerfect Date: 28 Mar 1997 21:09:20 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hhc20$odq@cocoa.brown.edu> I am having problems with WordPerfect's special charaters. Any one have any ideas. ThaNX, Andrew
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to read PDF files? Date: 28 Mar 1997 22:43:11 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <5hhhhv$sf8@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I want to read PDF files, and I have OmniPDF. Unfortunately, both times I've tried to read PDF files I got the following message: ----- This file has been encrypted by Adobe's PDF creation software. Because Adobe has not documented what their encryption does, it is impossible for third party PDF viewers (like this one) to read this document. If you aren't using security, make sure the encryption features are turned off in your PDF creation software. Even non-password protected files can be encrypted and unreadable if you have encryption turned on. ----- So, I followed the link to Adobe to verify that they have PDF readers for just about everything but NEXTSTEP. Then I fired up Executor, told it to emulate System 7 (which Adobe's software demands), downloaded Adobe's free reader for the Mac, and proceeded to install it. Unfortunately, it failed half-way through: ----- executor: Fatal error. emustubs.c:2085; in `_HFSDispatch' 0x18 RESTART ----- So I give up. This is just a last-ditch effort to find out whether anyone else has been successful reading PDF files which have this stupid encryption problem. Anyone? By the way, one of the PDF authors commented to me that he hadn't used any encryption. Of course, that's not the same thing as not having the feature enabled, I think. David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: NextStep -> Openstep Date: 28 Mar 1997 23:28:13 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5hhk6d$fiv$2@news.platinum.com> References: <5h8nkn$o1o$2@elna.ethz.ch> Cc: mateev@ifor.math.ethz.ch In <5h8nkn$o1o$2@elna.ethz.ch> it appeared that mateev@ifor.math.ethz.ch wrote: > Hi, > > We just got Openstep for WindowsNT in our institute and I'd like to convert > some Next code into Openstep. So far I know there exist tool for that, but I > cannot find them. > Can anybody help me ? On OPENSTEP 4.1 for MachOS, they are in myhost:/NextDeveloper/OpenStepConversion/foo Where "foo" is a set of directories with different related stuff. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP software? Date: 28 Mar 1997 23:38:41 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5hhkq1$fiv$4@news.platinum.com> References: <5h05sa$qfq@bolivia.earthlink.net> Cc: quinonez@ucla.edu In <5h05sa$qfq@bolivia.earthlink.net> it appeared that G. Quinonez wrote: > Hello fellow NeXTStep users. > > I am not too familiar with PGP mail. However, I have seen quite a bit of it > recently. I was wondering if anyone knows of software(free/commercial) that > I can use with my NSFIP 3.3? get the latest version of the cryptor & EnhanceMail bundles... others if they interest you. (Although I'm not sure I like the colorize bundle yet... it has a high cool factor, but it scares me.) ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail (or some similar directory, i may not have the tree right) The bundle should be uncompressed and placed in the "/LocalLibrary/Mail/" directory (which you may need to create). Doing so will make the bundle effective for all users on you NeXT system (the desired effect since each user can set their own preferences for the mail bundles.) Exit from Mail.app, and restart it, and you'll see the bundle loading messages in your Console. [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/Colorizer.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/cryptor.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/EnhanceMail.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/ExtraCommands.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/SunMessage.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/Urlifier.bundle] You will also need to get pgp from the archive and compile it. That's a bit of a pain. I don't even know the address of the ftp site, but you can find it by going to http://webcrawler.com and searching for PGP. Go to the site and follow the very complicated instructions. Compiling it is easier than downloading it. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Free NeXT Demos?! Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:32:28 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <333A0589.67A7@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmm, I'm curious who recieved these mailers, and why this is a closed program... From NeXT's website at http://www.next.com/HotNews/ "Test Drive OPENSTEP and WebObjects today! Did you receive our mailer? Sign up now to receive a free demonstration CD-ROM and take OPENSTEP Enterprise and WebObjects for a spin." http://www.next.com/cd-rom -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services---Illinois State University "I first saw NeXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away." - Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc. CEO ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: 28 Mar 1997 23:43:35 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5hhl37$fiv$6@news.platinum.com> References: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Cc: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com In <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> it appeared that Mark Trombino wrote: > I've just made the switch to Openstep and I'm experiencing odd behavior in > Mail 4.1. Just wondering if anyone out there has experienced the same... > > When composing messages, my signature gets wiped out if I select "Rich Text" > or "Mime" mail. > > Likewise, if I have "Reply in same format" set in Mail's preferences, when I > press the "Reply To" button my signature gets wiped out, and it text messages > always get replied to in NeXTMail. > > Finally, I have both .signature and .signature.rtf files and only the > ..signature file seems to get recognized by Mail. > > BTW, I have EnhanceMail (2.0b5). Anyone else notice this? yes, i did *not* have this problem before i installed EnhanceMail 2.05b. Now I do. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: postings archived?? Date: 28 Mar 1997 23:42:34 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5hhl1a$fiv$5@news.platinum.com> References: <5gmg3q$kmu$1@its.hooked.net> <5gn7s6$gfd@usenet.rpi.edu> Cc: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu In <5gn7s6$gfd@usenet.rpi.edu> it appeared that Garance A Drosehn wrote: > cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) wrote: > > Are these postings archived somewhere? Thanks for any info. > > > > Chris <cchris@hooked.net> > > Check out: > > http://www.stepwise.com/ > > The next newsgroups (except for advocacy) used to be archived > there. I'm not sure if they still are. You can also do nice searches at: http://www.dejanews.com /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: joe berry <berry@phys.psu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What comes with OpenStep? Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 05:31:08 -0800 Organization: Penn State University Message-ID: <333BC81C.7CD9@phys.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I've been looking into getting a old Next Box, and then getting the Openstep Academic Bundle. However, I have been wondering, about what Software is included with the operating system. I know they used to ship Mathematica with the Academic Bundle on the black hardware, does anyone if this is still the case. In any event can someone tell me what is included with the bundle. joe berry berry@phys.psu.edu
From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What comes with OpenStep? Date: 28 Mar 1997 21:40:31 -0000 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5hhdsf$j5j@sps1.phys.vt.edu> References: <333BC81C.7CD9@phys.psu.edu> In article <333BC81C.7CD9@phys.psu.edu>, berry@phys.psu.edu wrote: > I've been looking into getting a old Next Box, and then getting the > Openstep Academic Bundle. However, I have been wondering, about what > Software is included with the operating system. I know they used to > ship Mathematica with the Academic Bundle on the black hardware, does > anyone if this is still the case. In any event can someone tell me what > is included with the bundle. It no longer comes with Mathematica. Below is what it _does_ come with. In /NextApps: Edit.app FaxReader.app Grab.app Librarian.app Mail.app NEXTIME.app Preferences.app Preview.app PrintManager.app Terminal.app Webster.app In /NextAdmin: BuildDisk.app Configure.app HostManager.app Installer.app NFSManager.app NetInfoManager.app NetInstallHelper.app SimpleNetworkStarter.app UserManager.app In /NextDeveloper/Apps: EOModeler.app FileMerge.app HeaderViewer.app IconBuilder.app InterfaceBuilder.app MallocDebug.app ProjectBuilder.app Yap.app In /NextDeveloper/Demos: 3View.app BackSpace.app Billiards.app BoinkOut.app BugNeXT.app CDPlayer.app Chess.app DDMViewer.app DarkForest.app Draw.app Keyboard.app Mandelbrot.app Molecule.app ObjectAlloc.app OpenSesame.app PhotoAlbum.app ProductFeedback.app RenderManager.app Sampler.app Sound.app TeXview.app TextEdit.app Zilla.app
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:15:42 -0500 From: joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Distribution: world Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R1903971015420001@news.dol.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> <jack-ya023480001803971122060001@news.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net/ In article <jack-ya023480001803971122060001@news.tiac.net>, jack@radionics.com (Jack Miller) wrote: > In the midst of all the discussion, can anyone tell me Warnock's email > address (or something equivalent to leadership@apple.com)? I have some > opinions I'd like to tell him/them directly. I believe it's warnock@adobe.com If not, you can get a feedback page at http://www.adobe.com -- Regards, Joe Ragosta joe.ragosta@dol.net See the Complete Macintosh Advocacy Site http://www.dol.net/~Ragosta/complmac.htm
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:35:31 -0500 From: joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Distribution: world Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <joe.ragosta-2003970935310001@wil63.dol.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> <drifterusa-1903972358450001@accs-as802-dp03.atln.grid.net> Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net/ In article <drifterusa-1903972358450001@accs-as802-dp03.atln.grid.net>, drifterusa@macconnect.com (John Bauer) wrote: > > Yes, it seems that in many ways Rhapsody is turning into a NeXT clone > (which may not be a bad thing), but it also seems like Apple is doing the > most expedient thing to get their next generation OS out the door. Where > two similar technologies compete, they are opting for the already-proven > and compatible NeXT option. I hold out some hope that once Rhapsody is > shipping and Apple is in better financial health, they will reconsider > incorporating some older Mac technologies into it (like OpenDoc). But I > have to think that meeting their announced ship dates is crucial right > now. This seems plausible. The Game Sprockets lead engineer was optimistic that they'd eventually have a Rhapsody version. And you're right. Nothing can interfere with the ship date. > > This past week's news has made me wonder what makes a Mac a Mac, and if > the loss of many of Apple's technologies makes it time to admit the Mac is > dead. But if I had to point to one thing that makes a Mac what it is, I > would have to say it's the user interface. By all accounts, this > interface will be fully implemented (perhaps with NeXTian enhancements or > options) in Rhapsody. I have to conclude, then, that Rhapsody is a Mac > OS. OTOH, I also have to admit that there may come a time when the Mac as > we know it ceases to exist. To think otherwise is to refuse to believe > that there could ever be something better. Exactly. But all the people saying the Mac is dead are wrong. The Mac's GUI on top of Rhapsody serves the same purpose. The key question is, if you hid the hardware and put a Mac user in front of the screen, will they recognize it?
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 00:05:39 -0500 From: joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <joe.ragosta-2103970005390001@wil51.dol.net> References: <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111> <5gqreo$6ee@vuokko.uta.fi> Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net/ In article <5gqreo$6ee@vuokko.uta.fi>, samu@*remove_this_to_e-mail_me*usa.net wrote: > In article <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111>, > Norbert Pfaff <Norbert.Pfaff@pk.she.de> wrote: > >With PPC´s running over 500 mhz and Intel not much more than 200 for > >the next future, they will not easily going to NT. > > Now, now. This is silly. Comparing just processor speeds (at MHz) of > two CPUs of different architecture, with different memory controllers, > memory subsystems, system bus designs, OSes & so forth is just silly. > > Only when we have the new PowerPC (ex CHRP) machines out with new > 87-100 Mhz buses operating on faster RAM and better designs will we > see if there's any point in having just more Megahertz and if it > really translates to faster overall system speed... Not true. Macs are _already_ outperforming x86 boxes running NT by a significant margin on real world apps. (See my web site for examples). Now, the 500 MHz X-704 is reported to be 60% faster than the 200 Mhz 604e even on existing hardware. Thats not great, but it's a substantial difference. The faster busses and high speed cache of the G3 will be even better. But since the 200 MHz 604e easily beats a 200 MHz Pro and the new chips are _at least_ 60% faster, PPC is doing quite well.
From: ericb@pobox.com (Eric Bennett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 29 Mar 1997 08:20:44 GMT Organization: Penn State University Sender: emb121@r02a01.cac.psu.edu. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hijcs$22pe@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> <drifterusa-1903972358450001@accs-as802-dp03.atln.grid.net> <joe.ragosta-2003970935310001@wil63.dn In article <joe.ragosta-2003970935310001@wil63.dol.net> joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) writes: > This seems plausible. The Game Sprockets lead engineer was optimistic that > they'd eventually have a Rhapsody version. True, but he *does* have a certain bias. People tend to think their own work is important and will continue to be viewed as such in the future. -- Eric Bennett ( ericb@pobox.com ; http://www.pobox.com/~ericb ) Microsoft: for those of you who don't want to go anywhere today.
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody - Whatshallmacallit Date: 27 Mar 1997 17:47:19 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5hebr7$353$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <5h9epr$1ij@news.ppp.net> <333b131d.53199320@news.mindspring.com> <5hbehs$5gb$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> <5hbq9s$dlp$2@news.platinum.com> <3339C06F.4827@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <5hcm64$d3o$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <333A0C5D.4594@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Cc: eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu In <333A0C5D.4594@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" wrote: > John Rudd wrote: > > > > In <3339C06F.4827@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" wrote: > > > Donate the WHOLE project to GNU, > > > and make it free and called it GNUstep! (Sorry, I'm dreaming ;)) > > > > > hey, Hey, HEY! You just caused me to loose 3 hours of productive work > > daydreaming about such a possability.. DON'T DO THAT! > > LOL! ;-) Glad to add a little spice to your day! > > > *still waiting for the second coming of Christ, and the GPL of Nextstep* > > Hmm, JUST THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MOMENT, SERIOUSLY. > > What if Apple-NeXT did this, gave the OS FREE, and SIMPLY made the tools > to run on the OS, and hardware?! It would support it for cost, but the > OS would be free! > > This business model seems to be right over the horizon (a radical shift, > but with the "Linux Times", IMHO), see the the White Paper on the 3 > Phases of the Software Industry at > http://www.net-community.com/WhitePapers/phases.html > > Net-Community > http://www.net-community.com/ > does support FREE software > > This excerpt from their website: > > "NET-Community was founded in 1995 with the purpose of developing and > supporting free software for the Internet and business community. We > believe that in the long-term free software will provide individuals and > businesses with the most flexible and open solutions for their needs; > while expensive proprietary solutions will be slowly phased out...." > Don't forget Cygnus. We were founded quite a while ago, and we support and develop free software too (mostly around the gcc and gdb tool chains). And there's another company (Cygclic?) that does CVS. Alladin does some free software too, I think (but also some proprietary stuff). Personally, I think a lot of good would come from Nextstep/Openstep-Mach/Rhapsody switching to either an mk (like mklinux) or Mach 4 kernel, and using the "Lites" server OS (a BSD 4.4 server). Lites can already run linux and *bsd binaries, and you could probably add Solaris binaries too (Netbsd on Sparc, with Solaris libraries, can run Solaris binaries -- the same thunking engine could probably be incorporated into Lites if Lites were ported to Sparc). MacOS could live on as another Server OS alongside mklinux and Lites. As long as they're all multi-servers, you could even run them concurrently -- run all of your inet services out of the mklinux or Lites environment, and run your user apps either out of the Openstep-on-Lites or MacOS environments (and with a decent graphical environment and some added thunking engines, you might be able to run apps from one environment under the other environments -- Though such a graphical environment may be slow). If you got other OS vendors to join in you might be able to pool resources (though, I think IBM tried and failed at this). Get SGI to support IRIX as a Mach server OS, and have them maintain the kernel on MIPS platforms. Get Sun to support Solaris as a Mach server OS, and have them maintain the kernel on Sparc. Apple and/or IBM would maintain the PPC and/or Intel kernels, with Apple providing Mac, linux, and Lites server OS' and IBM providing an AIX and OS/2 server OS. Then, last, you'd get DEC to maintain the kernel on Alpha and provide a Digital-Unix server OS. Each group could provide their Server OS on other hardwares as they saw fit (as their market demanded). The kernels could even be maintained by a central organization like OSF/Open-Group, with each hardware vendor giving fixes and such as new versions or bugs came up. I know that's a bit of a holy grail, but I'd love to see something like that.. at that point, the Kernel would be free and standard, and you'd have at least 2 examples (Lites and linux) to use as a starting point for building your own experimental server OS if you wanted. If/when new hardware came along, you'd just port the kernel, linux and/or Lites, and give that as a starting base for any company that wants to supply a proprietary server OS. Companies would make their money by selling the Server OS and everything that lives on top of it (Macintosh server OS and GUI, Sun OS server OS + Openwindows, etc) and since the thunking engines require the native binaries (like, say, the Solaris thunking engine requires you to have the actual Solaris libs), you'd still have to buy Solaris from Sun to run Solaris apps under Linux -- but the point is you'd be able to do run Solaris apps under Linux, Mac OS, Nextstep, etc (and visa versa). It is a degree of openness that I think would bennefit everyone except Microsoft, but I also think it's a degree of openness that intimidates all of the companies that need to be key players. I think Apple could kick the door open by providing their OS's up front (even if they kept Nextstep as a proprietary Server OS, instead of just as a Proprietary GUI/Lib that ran on the Lites free Server OS), and then try to get IBM to at least re-activate their OS/2 project of the same concept, and put it all on Intel as well as PPC. I think that would be something compelling enough to attract DEC (who already have a mk server OS) and Sun (who already have Intel, Sparc and PPC software, and could bennefit from reducing some of their cross platform resources to concentrate on the higher level aspects). In fact, all of the companies would recieve some bennefit at that level -- the OSF and free software enthusiasts would be doing a lot of work on the kernel and drivers that bennefit the proprietary server OS' as a byproduct of doing so for the free Server OS' (assuming drivers are at the Mach layer, and not at a higher layer -- which is something this model requires anyway). But it gives everyone something good and useful -- free software gets the backing of commercial software companies including their apps, commercial software companies get the enthusiasts and free development and support from the free software community, and users (free or proprietary) know that their OS will live on past any corporate wars, and they'll be able to use their legacy apps through transitions (thanks to the thunking engines). If Apple and IBM start it, and they manage to convince DEC and/or Sun to follow, I think they'd probably attract SGI too. But, again, I think that's one of those Holy Grails -- Something that many would agree is an ideal, and one we'll never actually see due to the imperfect nature of the beasts in question (consumers included). (and you thought I was kidding when I said I lost 3 hours of work due to that suggestion!!!! ;-) Take all of that and combine it with migratable threads (the ability of a thread/process to move from one box to another transparently and dynamically at run time -- hetergenously or homogenously), and I'll be technically happy for quite some time. (get that big iron working for you, but transparently as the load on your desktop box requires it -- transparently to you as a user or programmer. Need more horsepower for your job? Don't replace your desktop box, just add another 3 or 10 boxes next to it) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: OPENSTEP/NT Fonts Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:59:13 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <333AA761.6D5D@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Since I didn't get any response, I'm posting this again. Can I copy/install my NEXTSTEP/Mach fonts so that they work with OPENSTEP/NT ? If so, how? Please e-mail me at: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu Thank you. -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> <5gnbn8$svl@uuneo.neosoft.com> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <333cf538.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 29 Mar 97 10:55:52 GMT rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) wrote: >In <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Jean-Yves Hervé wrote: >> >> (1) Because Rhapsody will have PMT, protected memory, "all the features of >> a True (TM) modern operating system". > > >But there is nothing Mac needs more. I've owned a Mac for 2 >months now and have rebooted it due to machine lock ups more >times in these two months than I have my NeXT in the 6-7 >years I've owned it. Macs are just not reliable. > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK > rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Oh, how true. From what I've seen, Win95 is more more reliable than Mac OS. Next OS are light years a head in reliability, compared to Mac OS and anything MS has. Darren
From: andydunn@op.net (Andy Dunn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FORTRAN (against my better judgement) Date: 27 Mar 1997 23:11:54 GMT Organization: OpNet -- Greater Philadelphia Internet Service Message-ID: <5heurq$je@picasso.op.net> References: <5he7ms$ksg$1@netty.york.ac.uk> Cc: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk In <5he7ms$ksg$1@netty.york.ac.uk> -bat. wrote: > So, I find myself in the position of being more-or-less forced to > complie up some FORTRAN code to work under OpenStep. Is there a > commercial compiler available for this - or has anyone tried using g77 > (or whatever the GNU thing is called). Iam reluctant to get my hands > dirty with this and would prefer a commercial solution. All help > gratefully receuved. > > -bat. > Try f2c, a Fortan to C converter. I've been using this, along with NeXT's C compiler, for years and it works just fine.
From: samu@*remove_this_to_e-mail_me*usa.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: 29 Mar 1997 14:38:43 +0200 Organization: ex Message-ID: <5hj2gj$sq6@vuokko.uta.fi> References: <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111> <5gqreo$6ee@vuokko.uta.fi> <joe.ragosta-2103970005390001@wil51.dol.net> >> In article <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111>, >> Norbert Pfaff <Norbert.Pfaff@pk.she.de> wrote: >> >With PPC´s running over 500 mhz and Intel not much more than 200 for >> >the next future, they will not easily going to NT. >In article <5gqreo$6ee@vuokko.uta.fi>, >samu@*remove_this_to_e-mail_me*usa.net wrote: >> Now, now. This is silly. Comparing just processor speeds (at MHz) of >> two CPUs of different architecture, with different memory controllers, >> memory subsystems, system bus designs, OSes & so forth is just silly. >> >> Only when we have the new PowerPC (ex CHRP) machines out with new >> 87-100 Mhz buses operating on faster RAM and better designs will we >> see if there's any point in having just more Megahertz and if it >> really translates to faster overall system speed... In article <joe.ragosta-2103970005390001@wil51.dol.net>, Joe Ragosta <joe.ragosta@dol.net> wrote: >Not true. Macs are _already_ outperforming x86 boxes running NT by a >significant margin on real world apps. (See my web site for examples). Definitely. I know this, but I don't think me and Norbert Pfaff were referring just to PPC/NT configurations, but to whether it is viable to switch, because Exponential is going to blow everybody's socks off. I was merely reacting to this by saying that I'm not sure it is useful to talk ONLY about "CPU this", "CPU that" at "Mhz this" and "Mhz that". >Now, the 500 MHz X-704 is reported to be 60% faster than the 200 Mhz 604e >even on existing hardware. Thats not great, but it's a substantial >difference. The faster busses and high speed cache of the G3 will be even I think it's great (compare that to the increase in speed caused by MMX instructions in Pentiums), but those are done on preproduction chips, with tinkered ROMs and who knows what apps. We'll only see when we see :) >better. But since the 200 MHz 604e easily beats a 200 MHz Pro and the new >chips are _at least_ 60% faster, PPC is doing quite well. Yes, I wasn't talking about this either. I'm all for Mac/PPC/Rhapsody and so forth, but I'm not silly enough to say that just pumping up the CPU speed to 1 GHz with the current system & memory buses and devices is gonna solve any inherent bottlenecks in systems design :) And I can see that you're not that silly either - we were just talking about different things. Best regards, Samu Mielonen -- Copyright 1996 Samu Mielonen. All rights reserved. <samu at usa dot net> Unsolicited advertising sent to my e-mail addresses is unauthorized use of my computer equipment as well as a form of mail harassment. A charge of $1000 will be applied to senders of such messages. News headers have been modified.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rumba--'unknown host' message Date: 29 Mar 1997 15:01:50 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970329150100.KAA09723@ladder01.news.aol.com> I'm trying to use rumba to connect my NeXTCube running NS 3.1 to my desktop PC (TCP-IP wouldn't load on the laptop) running Windows for Workgroups 3.11. I have Rumba 0.4--I can get FTP transfers to work from various Windows clients on the desktop, so the hardware is all okay, and I do have TCP setup on the desktop. I've tried every variation on rumba* //desktop/zipdrive zip -n which I can think of. The laptop can access the above shared drive as \\DESKTOP\ZIPDRIVE--why can't the NeXT find it? I'd appreciate any insight anyone can offer--thanks! William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to read PDF files? Date: 29 Mar 1997 15:19:35 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970329151901.KAA10709@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5hhhhv$sf8@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Acrobat Reader won't work install under Executor because it expects to be able to install/create/update the Adobe Type Manager init/extension. I believe one person was trying to get it running without ATM, but doubt that would work. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Brennan" <brennan@byte-back.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help!! Next server Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 23:09:13 -0800 Organization: www.byte-back.com Message-ID: <5hfr1b$5ab$1@kelp.mbay.net> I have been trying to find the answer to this question on my own. However, I can not find a direct answer. My question is how can I make a NextStep web server. I know that WebObjects can create sites really easliy, but I am more concerned with servering those sites. Is there third party web servers? Will Unix based web servers run on Next? Multihoming? I have worked with NT, and I love my Mac. Since I will soon be adopting your OS, I figured this would be a better choice over NT. Any info that you can provide would be appreicated. The more the better. Brennan McAdams
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:57:19 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970329145635.21780D-100000@kira> References: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <5hhl37$fiv$6@news.platinum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Gary W. Longsine" <gary@screaming.org> cc: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com In-Reply-To: <5hhl37$fiv$6@news.platinum.com> This is caused by EnhanceMail and it has been said that it will be fixed in the next release. TjL
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WordPerfect Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:46:37 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970329144441.21780B-100000@kira> References: <5hhc20$odq@cocoa.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Andrew Jones <andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu> In-Reply-To: <5hhc20$odq@cocoa.brown.edu> > I am having problems with WordPerfect's special charaters. > Any one have any ideas. Didn't we just go through this with someone else? Are all the fonts in /LocalLibrary/Fonts? /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPHelv-Cyrillic.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPHelv-Greek.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPHelv-Multinational.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPRoman-BoldMultinational.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPRoman-BoldObliqueMultinational.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPRoman-Cyrillic.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPRoman-Multinational.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPRoman-ObliqueMultinational.font/: what font are you using? What characters? do they work in other fonts? What release of WP are you using, on what arch? TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK (ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/put/next) META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniImageFilter Help! Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:54:35 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970329145331.21780C-100000@kira> References: <1997Mar23.224217.2317@juncol.juniata.edu> <5hhkb9$fiv$3@news.platinum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Gary W. Longsine" <gary-nospam-@screaming.org> cc: carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu In-Reply-To: <5hhkb9$fiv$3@news.platinum.com> > > I am running NS 3.0, and OmniWeb 1.0. I have downloaded and installed > Try upgrading to OmniWeb 2.5... the current release. I do not believe that OW 2.5 will run on NS 3.0, I think it requires at least 3.2 & the EOF patch TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK (ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/put/next) META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/
From: brisinda@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) Message-ID: <BRISINDA.97Mar29163713@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 29 Mar 1997 23:37:13 GMT Organization: University of Calgary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Networking OpenStep (Print Server) to WindowsNT Distribution: world Hi all, here is the scenario: I have a NeXTstation Turbo (hades) w/ NeXT printer attached and I have a Pentium machine (pegasus) running WindowsNT and OpenStep. I've successfully networked the two machines together when *both* are running NeXTSTEP and OpenStep (hades acts as a remote print server to pegasus, and there is also filesystem sharing on both ends). Now I'd like to do the same for WindowsNT and hades. Problem is (or is it?) that pegasus is the primary netinfo server and the primary netinfo server is off-line when WindowsNT is running (same machine). When I reboot pegasus to run WindowsNT, hades freezes up becoming unusable. So how can I easily get WindowsNT on pegasus to send print requests to hades? On a related note, do I have to do anything special in WindowsNT to convert print output from standard apps (Word, etc.) to PostScript before it sends it down the pipe to hades? Thanks, Dale --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html -- --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
From: stone@enetis.net (Kevin and Brian Stone) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: 29 Mar 1997 19:32:03 -0700 Organization: E-Net Information Services (605-341-ENET) Message-ID: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> Darren Reely (dreely@cyberstore.ca) wrote: : rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) wrote: : >In <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Jean-Yves Hervé wrote: : >> : >> (1) Because Rhapsody will have PMT, protected memory, "all the features of : >> a True (TM) modern operating system". : > : > : >But there is nothing Mac needs more. I've owned a Mac for 2 : >months now and have rebooted it due to machine lock ups more : >times in these two months than I have my NeXT in the 6-7 : >years I've owned it. Macs are just not reliable. : > : >---------------------------------------------------------------- : > Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK : > rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available : >---------------------------------------------------------------- : > : Oh, how true. From what I've seen, Win95 is more more reliable than Mac OS. : Next OS are light years a head in reliability, compared to Mac OS and : anything MS has. : Darren I'd show you my Mac if you can get the plane ticket... it almost never crashes. Course, unlike either of you, I know how to administrate it and take care of problems that arise, becuase, regardless of what platform you use, problems will arise. If you're inexperienced with the computer, or aren't familiar with trouble shooting techniques, then GOD save your sanity. I implore you. Drop me an E-mail on what was screwed up about your Mac... what software you were running... third party extensions... and when the errors occured. I have 10 years of stable MacOS use behind me. I'll see if I can diagnose the problem for you and give you some idea of how to fix it. :) -Kevin Stone Stone Entertainment stone@enetis.net www.enetis.net/~stone
From: webmaster@nasma.com (Clive Swanston - Webmaster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New NextStep user Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 03:39:58 GMT Organization: National Air and Space Museum Australia Message-ID: <333de055.0@139.134.5.33> Sorry its taken so long for a reply. I didn't get much help from the arsholes who hang around the next groups so I felt that I had to reply...even if by now you've worked it out. I had the same problem when trying to install NS 3.3 for the first time, in fact I spent about two months fucking around before I got anywhere. I found the inforation I needed in NeXT ANSWER #1933 off the NeXT web site, it goes something like this: At the point in the installation where you're asked for the SCSI adapter your CD-ROM is attached to - choose "1" the Adaptec 154x. When asked for the adapter or hard disk controller that your hard disk is attached to - choose "8" because your EIDE/ATAPI drivers are on another disk. Insert this disk before typing "8". A new list of drivers will appear, and on the "second page of the list" you should find the EIDE/ATAPI drivers. Choose the one you need. From this point the installation should be going OK and it should be doing some kind of boot stuff before giving you the option to install NS 3.3 on a particutar hard disk and then going about the partitioning stuff. But wait... I wanted to install NS 3.3 on a brand new 2Gb EIDE drive I got especially for my new OS but for some reason NS does'nt like EIDE drives larger than 1Gb - this fact alone cost me 3 weeks of fucking around! I bring this up because I kept getting a WS error and the screen would go black just like you described. One last drama I had with my video card... I have an integrated Cirrus Logic video card in my IBM PC 330. NS hates this type of video card! This gave me the black screen too! Take a deep breath... It WILL come together. I'm constantly told that NS is the best OS in the world, I don't believe it yet, but it is working for me, and I keep getting neat little suprises from time to time. Eventually, us newbies will get a "help net" together for other new users and make the transition to NS just a little bit less painful. Regards,
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 30 Mar 1997 04:09:35 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5hkp1v$hfp$1@news.platinum.com> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> Cc: stone@enetis.net In <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> it appeared that Kevin and Brian Stone wrote: > I'd show you my Mac if you can get the plane ticket... it almost > never crashes. Course, unlike either of you, I know how to administrate > it and take care of problems that arise, becuase, regardless of what > platform you use, problems will arise. If you're inexperienced with the > computer, or aren't familiar with trouble shooting techniques, then GOD > save your sanity. > I implore you. Drop me an E-mail on what was screwed up about > your Mac... what software you were running... third party extensions... and > when the errors occured. I have 10 years of stable MacOS use behind > me. I'll see if I can diagnose the problem for you and give you some > idea of how to fix it. :) Kevin, I'm sorry, but this really inspires me to walk right on up to The Rude Line, and I may just slip right on over it. This is the stupidest thing I've read in weeks. If a Windows user said this to you, you would laugh at them. Laugh now, at yourself, please. I implore you. Get a clue. ;) MacOS and Windows (pre-NT) suffer from the same severe architectural defect which allows programs to trample each-other in memory, or even trample the OS. No amount of administration can overcome this simple, backward, OS design flaw. Typically you can mitigate the problem by carefully testing software before it is deployed, and not using features that cause the system to crash -- but this won't take you over the goal line, like a well-designed OS will. On NeXTSTEP, or any other decent system, an ordinary (non-root) user is hard pressed to do ANYTHING to cause a system to crash, even if they, and several of their friends, try. Ordinary NeXTSTEP (and other UNIX) boxes have uptimes measured in weeks or months, not days. On MacOS or Windows, a cat walking across the keyboard is likely to take the box down. A two year old playing with the mouse is almost certain to do so, within minutes. Even a modest amount of normal use will take the box down within a few weeks at most. If your MacOS or Windows box <doesn't> crash, then you are probably not making very heavy use of it, or you might be experiencing the statistically unlikely higher end of the bell curve -- not to worry, you ARE alone, or very nearly so. Case in point: we just acquired a brand new $5k PowerMac. It crashed 3 times in the first hour that I used it. What was I doing? 1. dragging a small folder into the trash can 2. reading a small file in an editor 3. reading a different small file in an editor Now just what the hell do you think you would do to prevent the system from crashing in this case? Stop deleting and reading files? And what the hell good is a $5k machine running an OS that doesn't let you read or delete files? Or one where your skilled systems administrator recommends that you don't read or delete files, because that may cause the system to crash? Don't answer that. It's rhetorical. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <3027859093225@digifix.com> Date: 30 Mar 1997 05:00:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <7486859698032@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: "Ian Leslie" <ileslie@zianet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nextstep 3.3 with System Commander Date: 30 Mar 97 05:02:00 GMT Organization: Southwest Cyberport Message-ID: <01bc3cc7$ef03e6a0$987c86cc@ileslie> I have System Commander installed on my Gateway 486. So far I have three DOS promary partitions, one with Windows 95 in it. I left 201MB unpartitioned for installation of NextStep 3.3. I got everything set (IRQ, DMA, PORT) for the SCSI host adapter. I put in the NeXT boot floppy, then when asked put in the driver floppy, then the CD took over. All seemed to be going well, then!!. I received a message about "panic" and other stuff which I'm sure is important. What was really bad was that Windows 95 got messed up. Certain parts like linking, ver.dll, and Office were damaged. Strange. Has someone pulled off this install. Perhaps there is a way that I can at least protect the other partitions. Should I try and hide the others, either with fdisk or Sytem Commander's SCDISK? I am a wee bit fearful to try again. Thanks for your help. Ian Leslie, ileslie@zianet.com New Mexico,USA
From: brisinda@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) Message-ID: <BRISINDA.97Mar29170300@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 30 Mar 1997 00:03:00 GMT Organization: University of Calgary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Networking breaks Mathematica 2.x??? Distribution: world Hi all, I've recently networked a NS black machine running Mathematica 2.x with an NS Pentium machine. Problem is that Mathematica no longer works! It launches, but then when I ask it to evaluate some expression the disk cursor just spins endlessly... I'm guessing this has something to do with launching a remote vs local math kernel -- since it was working fine before the networking. Help! Dale --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html -- --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
From: David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk (David Webster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTStep --> OpenStep Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 15:46:11 GMT Message-ID: <859736771.955.0@scmolec.demon.co.uk> Could someone answer a few questions for me. 1. If I upgrade from NeXTStep 3.3 (Black hardware) to OpenStep/Mach 4.X will my apps I have under 3.3 still work? 2. Is there a performance hit for the upgrade Thanks David -- Dr David M Webster David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk Southern Cross Molecular or +44 (0)1225 722896 david@scmolec.demon.co.uk NeXTmail + MIME accepted http://www.scmolec.demon.co.uk/
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep --> OpenStep Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:28:17 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970330102533.3327A-100000@kira> References: <859736771.955.0@scmolec.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: David Webster <David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <859736771.955.0@scmolec.demon.co.uk> > 1. If I upgrade from NeXTStep 3.3 (Black hardware) to OpenStep/Mach > 4.X will my apps I have under 3.3 still work? YES! NeXTStep apps will run under OS/MACH.... compiling 3.3 apps under 4.x isn't possible (well, not without some big steps) > 2. Is there a performance hit for the upgrade Yes, as would be expected. There was a big one going from 2.x to 3.x, and going to 4.x is another one. If you are not going to be compiling programs or other problems that are similarly CPU-intensive, you should be able to load the NeXT with RAM (see 32RAM as a minimum, 64 as a good idea, and more as better. TjL
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 15:09:05 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> In-Reply-To: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 29-Mar-97 Re: Tevanian's Task by Kevin and B. Stone@eneti >: Oh, how true. From what I've seen, Win95 is more more reliable than Mac >: OS. Next OS are light years a head in reliability, compared to Mac OS >: and anything MS has. > > I'd show you my Mac if you can get the plane ticket... it almost > never crashes. Course, unlike either of you, I know how to administrate > it and take care of problems that arise, becuase, regardless of what > platform you use, problems will arise. If you're inexperienced with the > computer, or aren't familiar with trouble shooting techniques, then GOD > save your sanity. You fail to understand the point. You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New NextStep user Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 15:56:38 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <EnDhC6q00iV9Q3r0VP@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <333de055.0@139.134.5.33> In-Reply-To: <333de055.0@139.134.5.33> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 30-Mar-97 Re: New NextStep user by Clive S. - Webmaster@nas > Sorry its taken so long for a reply. I didn't get much help from the > arsholes who hang around the next groups so I felt that I had to > reply...even if by now you've worked it out. Clue: referring to people as "arsholes" is a good way to not get help. Try being polite instead. The NeXT newsgroups are full of helpful people and there are lots of web resources available, too. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help!! Next server References: <5hfr1b$5ab$1@kelp.mbay.net> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <333f1f38.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 31 Mar 97 02:19:36 GMT "Brennan" <brennan@byte-back.com> wrote: > My question is how can I make a NextStep >web server. I know that WebObjects can create sites really easliy, but I am >more concerned with servering those sites. Is there third party web >servers? Will Unix based web servers run on Next? Multihoming? Go see my web page at http://www.bcog.org/~dreely/OpenStep/openstep.html and look at my personal notes regarding web HTTP server setup. As for multihoming, I think there is a piece of software out there that handle under NextStep. Perhaps some else can give that information and success story. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 31 Mar 97 02:35:39 GMT Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 29-Mar-97 Re: Tevanian's >Task by Kevin and B. Stone@eneti >>: Oh, how true. From what I've seen, Win95 is more more reliable than Mac >>: OS. Next OS are light years a head in reliability, compared to Mac OS >>: and anything MS has. >> >> I'd show you my Mac if you can get the plane ticket... it almost >> never crashes. Course, unlike either of you, I know how to administrate >> it and take care of problems that arise, becuase, regardless of what >> platform you use, problems will arise. If you're inexperienced with the >> computer, or aren't familiar with trouble shooting techniques, then GOD >> save your sanity. > >You fail to understand the point. > >You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about >which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should >be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. Yes, he misses the point. And being the first quoted person on this message, I just have to say to the second person (which I originally missed) that I know a great deal about keeping computers up and running. At least his Mac "almost never crashes". When an application crashes, the rest of the system just keeps on ticking. When Nextstep crashes, I'm extremely surprised! Darren
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 31 Mar 1997 03:07:59 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm247-29.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5hn9qf$4ii$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Cc: dreely@cyberstore.ca In <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Darren Reely wrote: > Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 29-Mar-97 Re: Tevanian's > >Task by Kevin and B. Stone@eneti > >>: Oh, how true. From what I've seen, Win95 is more more reliable than Mac > >>: OS. Next OS are light years a head in reliability, compared to Mac OS > >>: and anything MS has. > >> > >> I'd show you my Mac if you can get the plane ticket... it almost > >> never crashes. Course, unlike either of you, I know how to administrate > >> it and take care of problems that arise, becuase, regardless of what > >> platform you use, problems will arise. If you're inexperienced with the > >> computer, or aren't familiar with trouble shooting techniques, then GOD > >> save your sanity. > > > >You fail to understand the point. > > > >You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about > >which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should > >be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. > > Yes, he misses the point. And being the first quoted person on this message, > I just have to say to the second person (which I originally missed) that I > know a great deal about keeping computers up and running. At least his Mac > "almost never crashes". When an application crashes, the rest of the system > just keeps on ticking. When Nextstep crashes, I'm extremely surprised! > > > Darren > I would just add that the saying 'It just works' is very true about NeXTstep. Well, I have the advantage of using black NeXT hardware, so the system is almost absolutely stable. The stability of NextStep on Intel boxes is sometimes lower due to the hardware issues. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: me@my.net (speedstr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:06:37 GMT Organization: up.net Message-ID: <333f61fc.50000695@news.up.net> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> On Sun, 30 Mar 1997 15:09:05 -0500, Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > >You fail to understand the point. > >You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about >which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should >be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. > >-Chuck > Why is that? Why should a computer be any different than anything else? You ever had your car break down? Your vcr tape get suck in the machine? Furnace go out? A computer is just a machine. The os just enables the user to use the machine. > Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer > ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- > I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. >
From: me@my.net (speedstr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:09:13 GMT Organization: up.net Message-ID: <333f62a3.50167327@news.up.net> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> <5hn9qf$4ii$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> On 31 Mar 1997 03:07:59 GMT, blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) wrote: >In <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Darren Reely wrote: >> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: >> >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 29-Mar-97 Re: Tevanian's >> >Task by Kevin and B. Stone@eneti >> >>: Oh, how true. From what I've seen, Win95 is more more reliable than >Mac >> >>: OS. Next OS are light years a head in reliability, compared to Mac OS >> >>: and anything MS has. >> >> >> >> I'd show you my Mac if you can get the plane ticket... it almost >> >> never crashes. Course, unlike either of you, I know how to administrate >> >> it and take care of problems that arise, becuase, regardless of what >> >> platform you use, problems will arise. If you're inexperienced with the >> >> computer, or aren't familiar with trouble shooting techniques, then GOD >> >> save your sanity. >> > >> >You fail to understand the point. >> > >> >You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about >> >which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should >> >be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. >> >> Yes, he misses the point. And being the first quoted person on this >message, >> I just have to say to the second person (which I originally missed) that I >> know a great deal about keeping computers up and running. At least his Mac >> "almost never crashes". When an application crashes, the rest of the >system >> just keeps on ticking. When Nextstep crashes, I'm extremely surprised! >> >> >> Darren >> > >I would just add that the saying 'It just works' is very true about NeXTstep. >Well, I have the advantage of using black NeXT hardware, so the system is >almost absolutely stable. > >The stability of NextStep on Intel boxes is sometimes lower due to the >hardware issues. > >-- >Rudy Blazek Michigan State University You people make me laugh. With the exception of a very few, I can almost guarentee that none of you ever gave a hoot about Next computers. I'm also sure that if that subject ever came up "before" apple decided to buy it, you treated it just the same way as you do any other system that is apple. But now all of a sudden, it's the next best thing to sliced bread. Geez, pathetic
From: "Kurt E. Huhner" <khuhner@communique.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Icond Dock for NT? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 23:39:42 -0600 Organization: NCS, Inc; http://www.ncs-ssc.com Message-ID: <333F4E1E.4E75@communique.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently saw some info for an "Icon dock" for Openstep for NT. After searching high and low, I couldn't find where to download it? Any suggestions on download loactions?
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:25:04 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <InDuoUW00iWm02M7o0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> <333f61fc.50000695@news.up.net> In-Reply-To: <333f61fc.50000695@news.up.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 31-Mar-97 Re: Tevanian's Task by speedstr@my.net >> You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about >> which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should >> be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. > > Why is that? Computers should be user friendly. Crashing is not user friendly. Computers shouldn't crash-- at least if they can avoid doing so. > Why should a computer be any different than anything else? You ever had > your car break down? Your vcr tape get suck in the machine? Furnace go out? > A computer is just a machine. The os just enables the user to use the > machine. The difference is that you are talking about hardware failures. If the computer encounters a hardware failure, then fine, it'll probably crash. It's possible to write an OS which can handle software errors without crashing, and such a machine can literally run for years without needing to reboot. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 31 Mar 1997 13:03:27 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5hocmv$m0e$1@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> <5hn9qf$4ii$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <333f62a3.50167327@news.up.net> In-Reply-To: <333f62a3.50167327@news.up.net> On 03/31/97, speedstr wrote: > You people make me laugh. With the exception of a very few, I can > almost guarentee that none of you ever gave a hoot about Next > computers. > This is just plain insulting: most of the contributors to this thread from the NeXT side have been members of the CoMMUNITY for many years, and have been unstinting in offering their wisdom and advice in that time. I don't recall seeing your moniker before, though. Perhaps "Johnny come lately" might be a more appropriate sobriquet for you? Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 31 Mar 1997 14:29:58 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm243-14.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5hohp6$2ru$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> <5hn9qf$4ii$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <333f62a3.50167327@news.up.net> Cc: me@my.net In <333f62a3.50167327@news.up.net> speedstr wrote: > On 31 Mar 1997 03:07:59 GMT, blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) > wrote: > > > > >I would just add that the saying 'It just works' is very true about NeXTstep. > >Well, I have the advantage of using black NeXT hardware, so the system is > >almost absolutely stable. > > > >The stability of NextStep on Intel boxes is sometimes lower due to the > >hardware issues. > > > >-- > >Rudy Blazek Michigan State University > You people make me laugh. With the exception of a very few, I can > almost guarentee that none of you ever gave a hoot about Next > computers. I'm also sure that if that subject ever came up "before" > apple decided to buy it, you treated it just the same way as you do > any other system that is apple. > But now all of a sudden, it's the next best thing to sliced > bread. Geez, pathetic > Just notice where he was posting from. Me@Default.Setup. BTW: What is Apple? Just kidding. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: "Christian Jensen" <chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Icond Dock for NT? Date: 31 Mar 1997 18:20:16 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <01bc3e00$2b2fb440$5fca92cf@default> References: <333F4E1E.4E75@communique.net> This may not be what you're looking for, but the following address will lead you to a very attractive and functional NeXT-alike icon dock called, aptly enough, IconDock, for Win95 (It probably works in NT, but I can't confirm this): http://home1.gte.net/everblue/index.htm Kurt E. Huhner <khuhner@communique.net> wrote in article <333F4E1E.4E75@communique.net>... > I recently saw some info for an "Icon dock" for Openstep > for NT. After searching high and low, I couldn't find > where to download it? > > Any suggestions on download loactions? > -- **************************************************** Chris Jensen chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net
From: hnle@lazrus.cca.rockwell.com (Hai N. Le) Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for NeXTstep font utilities Date: 31 Mar 1997 16:31:15 GMT Organization: Rockwell Avionics - Collins, Cedar Rapids, IA Message-ID: <5hoosj$ho2@castor.cca.rockwell.com> Originator: hnle@porter.cca.rockwell.com I'm looking for a software called T1utils-1.1 . According to the comp.fonts FAQ web page, this is a collection of command-line programs that manipulate PS Type1 fonts. These programs are supposed to be available at the NeXTsoftware archives , cs.orst.edu, but I can't download them for some reasons. Please let me know if you have a copy of T1utils-1.1. Thanks. Hai Le
From: abridge@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us (Adam Bridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 10:51:30 -0800 Organization: Bridge Family Message-ID: <abridge-3103971051310001@dcn53.dcn.davis.ca.us> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> <333f61fc.50000695@news.up.net> In article <333f61fc.50000695@news.up.net>, me@my.net (speedstr) wrote: >On Sun, 30 Mar 1997 15:09:05 -0500, Charles William Swiger ><cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > > >> >>You fail to understand the point. >> >>You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about >>which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should >>be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. >> >>-Chuck >> >Why is that? Why should a computer be any different than anything >else? You ever had your car break down? Your vcr tape get suck in the >machine? Furnace go out? A computer is just a machine. The os just >enables the user to use the machine. >> Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer >> ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- >> I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. >> Computers should NOT crash. I was STUNNED when my VAX crashed because that was something that virtually NEVER happened. NOTHING I could do as a non-priviledged user could take down VMS. That's the way things are supposed to work. It's these damn piddly little OSes like the MacOS and Windoze that have raised expectations that the entire computer's software environment should be allowed to fail when a single program does. The protection of system resources is a fundamental reason we have operating systems. Now, finally, desktop systems are thinking that being as reliable as my 1987 VAXstation 2000 would be a Good Thing. I desire a "sleep" mode in Rhapsody so my system will powerdown to some minimal configuration to keep things ticking but not quite gone so I'll restart my system to upgrade system software ONLY. That's the way it's supposed to be. Thinking we may actually get there is wonderful. -- Adam Bridge
From: jan@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca (Jan Sacharuk) Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Newer version of Emacs for Open/NeXTStep? Date: 31 Mar 1997 21:39:49 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5hpav5$i1o@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> The version of emacs that shipped with Openstep is hopelessly old. Is there a newer version that'll run under Openstep/Nextstep? Thanks
From: quinonez@ucla.edu (G. Quinonez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Font software Date: 31 Mar 1997 21:01:54 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5hp8o2$du2@ecuador.earthlink.net> I was reading in "The complete guide to NeXTStep user environment" by Michael Shebanek and it mentioned a program for the Mac called Metamorphosis for converting TrueType and Postcript Type 1 and 3 into NeXTstep format. Does anyone know of this program, or of a replacement? Thank you for your response. Please respond directly to quinonez@ucla.edu (NeXTMail preferred) -- _____________________________________________ G. Quinonez, MD <quinonez@ucla.edu> NeXTStep 3.3/Windoze NT 4.0 NeXTMail/SunMail Welcome http://emf.net/~ihouse/Alumni-pages/quinonez/
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Font software Date: 31 Mar 1997 22:26:55 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970331222600.RAA01950@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5hp8o2$du2@ecuador.earthlink.net> There are a number of different font conversion programs available on the various FTP sites, and there's at least one commercial one as well. Altsys Metarmophosis (on the Mac) isn't available any longer I'm afraid. For my part, I'm really wishing that there was font creation software for the NeXT--does anyone know if Typeology from Pinnacle ever reached the status of a usable beta? Or who owns whatever code was created now? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Shrijeet Mukherjee <shm@cs.uoregon.edu> Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.iris-explorer,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: modular apps development Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 15:17:17 -0800 Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970331151556.1805B-100000@suffix.cs.uoregon.edu> References: <19970323192119365839@esrmac00.szbk.u-szeged.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tibor_L=E1szlo_P=E1li?= <tpali@everx.szbk.u-szeged.hu> In-Reply-To: <19970323192119365839@esrmac00.szbk.u-szeged.hu> On Sun, 23 Mar 1997, [ISO-8859-1] Tibor L=E1szlo P=E1li wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I am considering to purchase some sort of modular and graphical > application development system fo unix. Until now three options came to > mind: IRIS Explorer, SIMULINK, and LabView (is this also on unix?). The > main purpose would be off line spectrum handling and curve fitting to > user defined procedures. Flexibility, speed and easy programming would > be the main concern. I would welcome suggestions as to what package > should I have a closer look at or if there would be other candidates. >=20 depends on your needs, but khoros from khoral research maybe a good candidate ... www.khoral.com .. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Shrijeet Mukherjee, Network services group, 250F Computing Center=20 =09=09 University of Oregon Eugene, OR97403=09 GTF, Network Services Group.=09=09(off) 541-346-1698 =09=09=09=09=09(res) 541-485-4968 http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/~shm =20 email:shm@cs.uoregon.edu, shm@ns.uoregon.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------ venimus, vidimus, dolavimus (we came, we saw, we hacked) =09=09=09=09=09 --- Linux
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Icond Dock for NT? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:57:05 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <33404140.4440@earthlink.net> References: <333F4E1E.4E75@communique.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: khuhner@communique.net Kurt E. Huhner wrote: > > I recently saw some info for an "Icon dock" for Openstep > for NT. After searching high and low, I couldn't find > where to download it? > > Any suggestions on download loactions? Here's where I got it along time ago: http://206.124.65.1:80/everblue/index.htm I'm not sure if it's still there or not. It's a "dock" for NT. You don't need Openstep to run it. It looks almost identical to the real NeXT dock. STEVE K.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newer version of Emacs for Open/NeXTStep? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:48:33 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970331164814.10573B-100000@kira> References: <5hpav5$i1o@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Jan Sacharuk <jan@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca> In-Reply-To: <5hpav5$i1o@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> checkout http://nice.ethz.ch/~chris TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "NEXTSTEP computers come with a set of uncomplicated yet powerful networking app lications, ... which reside in the /NextAdmin directory." -- NeXT online docs (01_Planning.rtf)
From: troch@lonestar.texas.com (Rod Troch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does NS 3.3 include the same tools as NS 1.0? Date: 31 Mar 1997 21:57:41 -0600 Organization: Don't mess with TEXAS Sender: troch@lonestar.texas.com Message-ID: <m3d8sf1jk9.fsf@lonestar.texas.com> Hello, Does NS 3.3 come with WriteNow and ScorePlayer, as were supplied with NS 1.0? It looks like my 3.3 build is not complete if they are still included. If not, I am glad I have a complete backup of the old 1.0 before the HD finally bit the dust. Rod -- Rod Troch N2ZVV | troch@texas.com | Don't mess with TEXAS. http://www.texas.com/ | ftp://lonestar.texas.com/ | FTP for PGP key
From: dmcke40249@aol.com (DMcke40249) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Going to buy Slab. Anything special to know about startup? Date: 1 Apr 1997 04:17:27 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970401041700.XAA26759@ladder01.news.aol.com> Hi. I'm going to buy a color slab in the next few days. I have never used NEXTSTEP before and I wondered if there are any commands I have to enter after I turn the machine on. Any helpful response welcome. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Help!! Next server Message-ID: <E7x7wB.2KC@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5hfr1b$5ab$1@kelp.mbay.net> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:40:59 GMT In article <5hfr1b$5ab$1@kelp.mbay.net> "Brennan" <brennan@byte-back.com> writes: > I have been trying to find the answer to this question on my own. > However, I can not find a direct answer. My question is how can > I make a NextStep web server. I know that WebObjects can create > sites really easliy, but I am more concerned with servering those > sites. Is there third party web servers? Will Unix based web > servers run on Next? Multihoming? I have worked with NT, and > I love my Mac. Since I will soon be adopting your OS, I figured > this would be a better choice over NT. Any info that you can > provide would be appreicated. The more the better. > Although the first Web software was developed on NEXTSTEP (at CERN) the platform is rather scarce of recent implementations. One reason lies in the fact that NEXTSTEP was conceived as client development platform and, therefore, is not very well suited for the use as a server. The only Web server for NEXSTEP I know is apache. It is on the Net (positively on Peanuts, and most likely Peak). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NS 3.3 include the same tools as NS 1.0? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 22:52:05 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970331225026.11527A-100000@kira> References: <m3d8sf1jk9.fsf@lonestar.texas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Rod Troch <troch@lonestar.texas.com> In-Reply-To: <m3d8sf1jk9.fsf@lonestar.texas.com> > Does NS 3.3 come with WriteNow and ScorePlayer, as were supplied with > NS 1.0? It looks like my 3.3 build is not complete if they are still > included. If not, I am glad I have a complete backup of the old 1.0 > before the HD finally bit the dust. WriteNow is not included in 3.3. ScorePlayer is now part of the MusicKit -- I think. Do you have any 1.0 screen shots by any chance? I'd love to see them. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "NEXTSTEP computers come with a set of uncomplicated yet powerful networking app lications, ... which reside in the /NextAdmin directory." -- NeXT online docs (01_Planning.rtf)
From: bjohnson@verity.com (Brett M. Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NS 3.3 include the same tools as NS 1.0? Date: 1 Apr 1997 06:24:13 GMT Organization: Verity, Inc. Message-ID: <5hq9md$44i@nuclear.verity.com> References: <m3d8sf1jk9.fsf@lonestar.texas.com> Cc: troch@lonestar.texas.com In <m3d8sf1jk9.fsf@lonestar.texas.com> Rod Troch wrote: > Hello, > > Does NS 3.3 come with WriteNow and ScorePlayer, as were supplied with > NS 1.0? It looks like my 3.3 build is not complete if they are still > included. If not, I am glad I have a complete backup of the old 1.0 > before the HD finally bit the dust. > > Rod Many of the Apps and Demos have been dropped in each release of NEXTSTEP. Many were dropped for licensing reasons - WriteNow, Mathematica, TopDraw, Sybase, etc. Some were dropped for portability reasons - WriteNow was written in 68K asembly language. Many of the sound-intensive apps were dropped at the time of the release of Nextstep/Intel because of the poor sound support of Intel hardware. Likewise, any app that relied heavily on the DSP was dropped after Black hardware was discontinued. Many of the orignal Demos were discontinued for [lack of] support reasons. Annoyingly, earlier NEXTSTEP updates would delete discontinued apps and demos in the update process. The first time I noticed this, I recovered the originals from old CDs (or ODs). After that, I learned verify the update plan to make sure it didn't delete anything I felt was important. On the plus side, many new Apps and Demos have been added over the years. -- Brett M. Johnson Verity Inc. Software Author 894 Ross Drive bjohnson@verity.com Sunnyvale, CA 94089 http://www.verity.com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Going to buy Slab. Anything special to know about startup? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:03:29 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970331225322.11527C-100000@kira> References: <19970401041700.XAA26759@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: DMcke40249 <dmcke40249@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <19970401041700.XAA26759@ladder01.news.aol.com> Well, assuming you are getting a machine with the Operating System installed on a drive initialized for NeXTStep, it should be pretty much a matter of plugging the machine in and hitting 'power' You may be asked a few configuration questions, but eventually you will be logged into the 'me' account. Goto the Preferences.app (the clock on the dock on the right side of the screen) and find the panel that looks like a lock. Set a password for the 'me' account. Logout. When the login panel appears, login as 'root' (there will not be a password for that account either). Goto Preferences.app and set a password -- and make it a good one... something like the binary representation of your name of the first girl you liked, followed by some punctuation. Start /NextAdmin/UserManager.app... open the 'me' account. Delete the 'me' account. Create a 'new' account with some username of your choosing (making it the same as your email address username will be a good idea in most circumstances). Choose a good password for this account too. Goto the 'groups' part of the window you are working in (look around, you'll find it... it says 'short' ... click on it and drag to 'groups'. Add yourself to the group 'wheel' and make that the default group. Find the files in /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/ and start reading..... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "NEXTSTEP computers come with a set of uncomplicated yet powerful networking app lications, ... which reside in the /NextAdmin directory." -- NeXT online docs (01_Planning.rtf)
From: akira@valley.xo.com (Doug McClure) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for authors of Halloween and Astraloids Date: 1 Apr 1997 09:11:08 GMT Organization: InterNex Information Services 1-800-595-3333 Message-ID: <5hqjfc$snk@masters0.InterNex.Net> Hi, I'm looking for the authors of two programs, Halloween and Astraloids. If you are they, please drop me a line. I've got some programming questions for you concerning your apps. -d
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From: khader@vnet.net (R. D. Khader) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is a good free PPP forNS3.3 intel Date: 1 Apr 1997 15:20:58 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. - Charlotte, NC. (704) 374-0779 Message-ID: <5hr94q$341$1@ralph.vnet.net> I am looking for a PPP software for NS3.3 Intel. The Next web site used to have a reference to serveral resources, I can not seem to locate any. Any direction is highly apprecaited. Thanks in advance. khader@vnet.net
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help!! Next server Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 07:34:20 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970401072949.16171B-100000@kira> References: <5hfr1b$5ab$1@kelp.mbay.net> <E7x7wB.2KC@nidat.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de, brennan@byte-back.com In-Reply-To: <E7x7wB.2KC@nidat.sub.org> You can find apache here: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/apache/apache.1.0.5.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/apache/apache.1.0.5.README you can search the peak archive via email. Send me an email message with the SUBJECT search-peak whatever to search the index file for 'whatever'. To search for multiple entries, separate them with a space, still in the SUBJECT line: search-peak whatever topic you choose will search for 'whatever' and 'topic' and 'you' and 'choose' the URLs will be sent back to you immediately. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "NEXTSTEP computers come with a set of uncomplicated yet powerful networking app lications, ... which reside in the /NextAdmin directory." -- NeXT online docs (01_Planning.rtf)
From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help!! Next server Date: 1 Apr 1997 17:35:13 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5hrh0h$4hc8@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5hfr1b$5ab$1@kelp.mbay.net> <E7x7wB.2KC@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote: >...the fact that NEXTSTEP was conceived as client development platform and, >therefore, is not very well suited for the use as a server. I think that statement is misleading. There's no inherent limitation to NEXTSTEP to cause it to be any worse a server than any other flavor of Unix. The issue is that people haven't ported the latest web servers and browsers with the latest bells and whistles to NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP because its market share it currently too small too make the port commercially profitable. Of course, the lack of this software is the reason why people aren't running to NEXTSTEP in droves. Its a chicken and egg problem. If/when Rhapsody is forced down all the Mac throats things will change because then OPENSTEP/Rhapsody will instantly have a much larger market share. BTW - I've run an apache server off NEXTSTEP and had no problems what-so-ever and there's a lot of free Unix add-ons that can be easily re-compiled to run on it. The notable exception is Java, but again that's not due to any limitation of NEXTSTEP, it just hasn't been completely ported over yet. The only "bad" thing about NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP is that not enough people realize how "good" it is. Let the product speak for itself. $0.02 - Gareth
From: juh@JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de (Jan Ulrich Hasecke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniImageFilter Help! Date: 01 Apr 1997 18:19:38 GMT Organization: PIRONET GmbH Message-ID: <JUH.97Apr1201938@localhost> References: <1997Mar23.224217.2317@juncol.juniata.edu> <970327134026.22058AAFCH.kjt@copper> In-reply-to: kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk's message of Thu, 27 Mar 1997 13:40:26 GMT In article <970327134026.22058AAFCH.kjt@copper> kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner) writes: : I am running NS 3.0, and OmniWeb 1.0. I have downloaded and installed : OmniImageFilter. How do I get OmniWeb to use the ImageFilter to translate : images? I still can't view non-NeXT images. Try OmniWeb 2.0. -- Jan Ulrich Hasecke Tel.: ++49-212-2 33 14 83 Goldstr. 8 ++49-212- 33 67 72 D-42697 Solingen Fax.: ++49-212-2 33 14 84 Germany (NeXTMail welcome / MIME o.k) http://www.koeln.netsurf.de/~JanUlrich.Hasecke/ ===============================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: rmichael@il.us.swissbank.com (Bob Michael) Subject: NeXT Mail converter Message-ID: <1997Apr1.200032.14507@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 20:00:32 GMT Is anyone aware of any utilities to export NeXT Mail (Both NeXT Mail and MIME format) into .txt or .rtf file(s) that can be read on NT? I want to read my NeXT Mail on my NT (Word, NotePad), but don't know how to get it there in a readable format. I need a temporary solution while waiting for a more sophisticated process to be developed. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Bob Michael rmichael@il.us.swissbank.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is a good free PPP forNS3.3 intel References: <5hr94q$341$1@ralph.vnet.net> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <33416f9e.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 1 Apr 97 20:27:10 GMT khader@vnet.net (R. D. Khader) wrote: >I am looking for a PPP software for NS3.3 Intel. The Next web site used >to have a reference to serveral resources, I can not seem to locate any. >Any direction is highly apprecaited. Try http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> <5hn9qf$4ii$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <333f62a3.50167327@news.up.net> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <3341755b.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 1 Apr 97 20:51:39 GMT me@my.net (speedstr) wrote: >You people make me laugh. With the exception of a very few, I can >almost guarentee that none of you ever gave a hoot about Next >computers. I'm also sure that if that subject ever came up "before" >apple decided to buy it, you treated it just the same way as you do >any other system that is apple. > But now all of a sudden, it's the next best thing to sliced >bread. Geez, pathetic Are you just trying to be insulting. If you were to look at similar posts before the Apple/Next merger, you would find them consistent with posts happening now from Next users. As for the Next hardware. My personal expirience suggests that the operating system is slightly more reliable on Next hardware, as opposed to Intel hardware. Perhaps we'll see a similar thing happen with Apples PPC. Is OpenStep the end-all-be-all. No! But it is extremely reliable and easy to use. Even these systems can have their problems, but bringing down the operating system is uncommon. If your going to use and be responsible for a computer, then you should learn the basics of maintenance. You simply seem to require that knowledge less often with Next. Darren
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Mail converter Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:25:25 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970401152353.25479D-100000@kira> References: <1997Apr1.200032.14507@il.us.swissbank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Bob Michael <rmichael@il.us.swissbank.com> In-Reply-To: <1997Apr1.200032.14507@il.us.swissbank.com> > Is anyone aware of any utilities to export NeXT Mail (Both NeXT Mail and > MIME format) into .txt or .rtf file(s) that can be read on NT? > > I want to read my NeXT Mail on my NT (Word, NotePad), but don't know how > to get it there in a readable format. I need a temporary solution while > waiting for a more sophisticated process to be developed. Do you have a NeXT? If so you can just copy and paste the messages to an Edit.app file. If you don't, you can use PINE to read the MIME messages and 'export' them to a file. Nothing too easy or clean is possible, but those two are. TjL
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniImageFilter Help! Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:21:58 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970401152112.25479C-100000@kira> References: <1997Mar23.224217.2317@juncol.juniata.edu> <970327134026.22058AAFCH.kjt@copper> <JUH.97Apr1201938@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de In-Reply-To: <JUH.97Apr1201938@localhost> > Try OmniWeb 2.0. I don't think OW 2.0 will work with NeXTStep 3.0, due to shlibs, but I could be wrong TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "NEXTSTEP computers come with a set of uncomplicated yet powerful networking app lications, ... which reside in the /NextAdmin directory." -- NeXT online docs (01_Planning.rtf)
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help using packagebuilder.app Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 17:02:26 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970401165650.9276A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to try my hand at PackageBuilder.app. I would like to install 4 files in /usr/local/bin and 4 files in /usr/local/man/man1 I can't seem to figure out how to install files in 2 different folders. Is this simple and I am missing it or what? pointers appreciated TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "NEXTSTEP computers come with a set of uncomplicated yet powerful networking app lications, ... which reside in the /NextAdmin directory." -- NeXT online docs (01_Planning.rtf)
From: parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr (Park Jeongyoung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: player for *.mp3 Date: 2 Apr 1997 06:49:59 GMT Organization: Seoul National University, Republic of Korea Message-ID: <5hsvin$tk0$1@snunews.snu.ac.kr> Is there any software playing music file, '*.mp3'? I am using NSFIP 3.3J. -- || Park, Jeongyoung || TFC (Turbulence & Flow Control) Lab. || Dept. of Mech. Engineering Seoul Nat'l Univ. Korea || parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr (NeXT- or MIME-mail welcome!)
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RCS for NS -- recommendations Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:14:24 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970402211213.21175A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am looking for suggestions on Revision Control Systems that work well under NeXTStep 3.3. I understand there are a few choices, so I'd like to hear from people who use them. This would be for RCS of shell scripts. Ease of use a big plus. thanks TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: 'summaries' in Find panel in Mail.app Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 21:19:51 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970402211742.21874A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: enhancemail@basil.icce.rug.nl The 'find' panel in Mail.app has two options Summaries Messages I assume that the 'Summaries' checks just the headers, and the messages just the bodies? What if I want to search both? Does Enhancemail's indexing index just the bodies? Thanks all TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me
From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Web Broswer Date: 3 Apr 1997 07:19:03 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5hvll7$lvv@supernews.login.net> References: <rreynolds-0204971442530001@sfo-ca21-02.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <rreynolds-0204971442530001@sfo-ca21-02.ix.netcom.com> The current release is OmniWeb 2.5 beta 2. http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/2.0/Download.html An excellent product ! -André ----------------------------------------------------------------- On 04/02/97, Richard Reynolds wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know of a shareware Web Broswer available for 68k NextStep? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > -- > Rick Reynolds... > Head Geek & Executive Nerd > Rockstar Studios, Inc. > For more FreePPP and Gearbox infor check out http://www.rockstar.com > > Gearbox is coming in May 97 (Betcha can't wait!) >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199704020031.TAA01128@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <9704012351.AA00785@black_vixen> From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 1 Apr 97 19:31:02 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXT Mail converter Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: <1997Apr1.200032.14507@il.us.swissbank.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970401152353.25479D-100000@kira> <9704012351.AA00785@black_vixen> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary [ note to USENET readers: this is a test message to see if Antigone has fixed their mail2news gateway and the MIME junk will be gone ] > Thanks. Yes I do have a NeXT. I was hoping to find something that > could do a whole mailbox at a time. I have a lot of messages and > didn't want to convert them individually. checkout the 'mail2bsd' program in here: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/mailapp-utilities.1.7.NIHS.bs.tar.gz > I'm only concerned with messages already in my NeXT mailbox and > not spooled, so I don't think I could use PINE. You can use PINE to view ASCII and MIME messages in NeXT Mail.app mailboxes.... you must setup links to do this. for example, assuming your PINE mailboxes are in ~/mail and your Mail.app mailboxes are in ~/Mailboxes and you want to access the Active.mbox you would use this: ln -s ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox ~/mail/active (you can't have Active.mbox open in Mail.app however) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "NEXTSTEP computers come with a set of uncomplicated yet powerful networking applications, ... which reside in the /NextAdmin directory." -- NeXT online docs (01_Planning.rtf)
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Web Broswer Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 16:34:36 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970402163250.13236A-100000@kira> References: <rreynolds-0204971442530001@sfo-ca21-02.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Richard Reynolds <rreynolds@rockstar.com> In-Reply-To: <rreynolds-0204971442530001@sfo-ca21-02.ix.netcom.com> ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.N.tar.gz assume that you have 3.3 or later.... if you have 3.2 get the foundation user patch (it's on peak and linked to my next page http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "NEXTSTEP computers come with a set of uncomplicated yet powerful networking app lications, ... which reside in the /NextAdmin directory." -- NeXT online docs (01_Planning.rtf)
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: win95, NT, & OpenStep NT... Date: 3 Apr 1997 06:18:33 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5hvi3p$3qi@news3.digex.net> Hi, I'm putting together a, shock, non OPENSTEP system this friday. I want to have win95 for the very limited purpose of booting to play games :) And NT to do OpenStep NT development on... I have a 1Gb drive for all purposes (it's a laptop)... So, I was thinking I could set up a tiney partition, say 64Mb's for win95; just enough to boot off of. And give NT the rest, but make the NT partition a DOS type of partition. Figuring, I could boot in win 95, yet save all my apps on the NT partition; games included. That way, I could kick off the 64Mb parition on drive C, and then double click on say Quake on the drive D/NT partition and things would work. Otherwise, when not playing games I could simple boot on drive D with NT and do development. However, I understand that to install OpenStep on NT one MUST make drive D an NTFS filesystem (not to mention install ALL of the network stuff). If I do have to make drive D NTFS, then, I'm guessing, when booting in the win95 partition, I won't be able to access any files on the NT partition... So is my only option set aside, say 200Mb for win95 and games? Or is there someway to share filesystems between win95 and NT w/ OpenStep? (perhaps I should just get a zip drive and boot off of that for games....) Thanks for any pointers :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.amiga From: fmlazar@interactive.net (Frank Lazar) Subject: Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Organization: AMUSE-New York Amiga Users Group Message-ID: <fmlazar-0304970059500001@host049.jerseycity.interactive.net> References: <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <5hu25h$h3t$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 05:59:13 GMT In article <5hu25h$h3t$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>, Malcolm Crawford <Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk> wrote: > > > Try looking at Young Minds: http://www.ymi.com/ -- they seem to offer a good > range of solutions. > I did. I was really surprised when I saw among the list of supported platforms CBM's Amiga Unix. Well that's one piece of real software I can get for it. :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | _ | | We are dreamers, shapers, singers and makers. /_\ | | We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, // \\ | | Crystal and scanner, holographic demons, \\ //___\\ | | And invocations of equations. \\ // \\ | | \\__// \\ | | These are the tools we employ. And we know... many things. \\ | | \\ | | | Frank Lazar http://www.interactive.net/~fmlazar | \\ | -----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Constantin Szallies <szallies@energotec.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RCS for NS -- recommendations Date: 3 Apr 1997 07:36:05 GMT Organization: Technet GmbH Message-ID: <5hvml5$7tj1@ddfo3.technet.net> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970402211213.21175A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > >I am looking for suggestions on Revision Control Systems that work well >under NeXTStep 3.3. We use CVS and find it ok. Newer versions of CVS can also handle NIB files which are treated as files. NIBs don't work with the client/server configuration of CVS so we export the repository by using NFS and run all CVS operations locally. CVS may not work very well if you have a large set of developers because CVS has an optimistic locking strategy. We also noticed some performance problems when using CVS with NFS, but this might be Nextsteps old NFS implementation. -- # Constantin Szallies, Energotec GmbH # szallies@energotec.de # 49211-9144018
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniImageFilter Help! Date: 3 Apr 1997 11:34:59 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5i04l3$1617@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <1997Mar23.224217.2317@juncol.juniata.edu> <970327134026.22058AAFCH.kjt@copper> <JUH.97Apr1201938@localhost> Jan Ulrich Hasecke (juh@JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de) wrote: > In article <970327134026.22058AAFCH.kjt@copper> kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner) writes: > : I am running NS 3.0, and OmniWeb 1.0. I have downloaded and installed > : OmniImageFilter. How do I get OmniWeb to use the ImageFilter to translate > : images? I still can't view non-NeXT images. > Try OmniWeb 2.0. I don't think that's an option if he runs 3.0. However, logging out and back in usually does the trick. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Serial port problem Date: 3 Apr 1997 07:42:28 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <5i08jk$8tb@papoose.quick.com> References: <5htpgo$d86@hagen.amg.de> In article <5htpgo$d86@hagen.amg.de>, Martin Mocker <m_mocker@amg.de.> wrote: >When I boot up my machine with -v OPENSTEP tells me, that the >ISASerialPortDriver is installed for COM1 and for COM2. >But when I want to use tip to get on /dev/cub or /dev/cua (the same with >cufa, cufb) I get the message /dev/cux (where x is a, b, fa, fb): no such >device. >What am I doing wrong ? You installed the driver that handles the low level hardware. You forgot to also install the unix level driver that implements the tty devices for serial ports.. To fix it, install the PortServer driver in Configure.app and reboot. The reason these are different is that there are more uses for a serial port than just tty driver access. For instance you might just be using a serial mouse. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars?
From: ab@purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Networking breaks Mathematica 2.x??? Date: 2 Apr 1997 16:22:36 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5hu14c$jnd@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <BRISINDA.97Mar29170300@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> brisinda@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) wrote: >I've recently networked a NS black machine running Mathematica 2.x >with an NS Pentium machine. Problem is that Mathematica no longer >works! It launches, but then when I ask it to evaluate some expression >the disk cursor just spins endlessly... I'm guessing this has >something to do with launching a remote vs local math kernel -- since >it was working fine before the networking. Mathematica will check its license when it loads the library. It checks against the hardware idea of the machine, so if it's not licensed for the machine you run it on, it won't work. Also make sure that the command line programs (math and something else) are in your path. I've seen that problem here a lot. Mathematica does work froma shared copy, but all the machines need to be in the license file. You aren't trying to run black binaries on your Pentium are you? ab
From: jan@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca (Jan Sacharuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Getting Openstep to recognize NTFS partition? Date: 3 Apr 1997 15:54:44 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5i0js4$12us@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Every time I start up Openstep (once NeXTstep..) it tells me that it can't read from my drive that has NT on it. I was hoping with the coming of Openstep, it would magically fix all my problems...but I guess not. How do I resolve this problem. I really hate telling the system that I don't want to initialize the disk at start up every time. Jan Sachaurk jan@cs.ualberta.ca
From: Malcolm Crawford <Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Date: 2 Apr 1997 16:40:17 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5hu25h$h3t$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> In <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" wrote: > Hi, I am curious on how to CD-ROM burn some NeXT media, and am wondering > if in the software that RockRidge Extensions are Necessary in addition > to ISO 9660? Take the NEXTSTEP 3.3 disc, what exactly is required of > the burning software to do this successfully. A Mac solution would be > prefered... > > Is there Mac OS software that can do this? Anyone know the names? How > about Windoze? > Try looking at Young Minds: http://www.ymi.com/ -- they seem to offer a good range of solutions. Best wishes, mmalc. Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: Malcolm Crawford <Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep --> OpenStep Date: 2 Apr 1997 12:56:09 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5htl19$cqa$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <859736771.955.0@scmolec.demon.co.uk> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970330102533.3327A-100000@kira> In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970330102533.3327A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma wrote: > > 2. Is there a performance hit for the upgrade > > Yes, as would be expected. There was a big one going from 2.x to 3.x, and > going to 4.x is another one. > Actually it dosn't seem tooo bad -- I'm now running it on a Turbo with 32MB RAM... Best wishes, mmalc.
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NS 3.3 include the same tools as NS 1.0? Date: 3 Apr 1997 14:24:27 GMT Organization: computerActive Inc Message-ID: <5i0eir$obj@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> References: <m3d8sf1jk9.fsf@lonestar.texas.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970331225026.11527A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma (luomat@peak.org) wrote: : ScorePlayer is now part of the MusicKit -- I think. It is. http://www-ccrma.stanford.edu/CCRMA/Software/MusicKit/MusicKit.html --Chris Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst -------------------------------------- computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by | chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad | http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: kc@ignem.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java for NeXTStep/OPENSTEP Date: 3 Apr 1997 16:29:20 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5i0lt0$c2n$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <33425225.633B@earthlink.net> <5hv9v7$2d9@news-central.tiac.net> Aleksey Sudakov (zander@conextions.com) wrote: : Yes and no. Java on NeXTSTEP does exists. OmniWeb doesn't support it. Actually, that's also a yes and no. We're about half-way through implementing java (from scratch, without Sun's JVM) for OmniWeb (we can play TicTacToe, run the java graphics test suite, etc.), and with corporate sponsorship we could dedicate resources towards finishing that java support in a short timeframe. (That's been the status since last summer.) However, it now appears that Apple is busy putting java into Rhapsody, so unless someone does have an urgent need (and are therefore willing to pay us to finish our implementation) we'll probably just wait for Apple's java. (Unfortunately, that doesn't help those current NextStep users not going to Rhapsody, but we have to prioritize our resources.) -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: wolfgang@neptun.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Wolfgang Pusch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP-Problems taking over the connection Date: 3 Apr 1997 15:39:52 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5i0j08$9e0@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hello, I have PPP-Problems (ppp2.2 installed and configured as shown in the help of usingGateKeeper): Dialing into the remote machine of the provider works fine (using GateKeeper). I can login successfully. Then I tried to start the PPP session manually with the command "ppp" (see below). Terminal.app-window: ..... dialing and logging in prompt>ppp Entering PPP mode. Async interface address is unnumbered (Ethernet0) Your IP address is 140.78.5.210. MTU is 1500 bytes Header compression will match your system. ~~}#@!}!}!} }4}"}&} }*} } }%}&WO]A}'}"}(}"}2q~~}#@!}!}"} }4}"}&} }*} } }%}&WO]A}'}"}(}"XL~~}#@!}!}#} }4}"}&} }*} } }%}&WO]A}'}"}(}"_~~}#@!}!}$} }4}"}&} }*} } }%}&WO]A}'}"}(}"]?~~}#@!}!}%} }4}"}&} }*} } }%}&WO]A}'}"}(}"}4,~~}#@!}!}&} }4}"}&} }*} } }%}&WO]A}'}"}(}"^}1~~ [EOT] [Process completed] After a lot of not human readable letters (...}'}"}(}"XL~~}#@!}!}#} }4}"}&} }*} } }%}&WO]A}...) appeared in the terminal I pressed the button so that pppd should take over the connection (In Windows95 this way works succesfully). A lot of error messages (see below) appeared which I do not understand ppp-log-window: Apr 1 19:59:55 neptun pppd[235]: pppd 2.2.0 started by wolfgang, uid 1002 Apr 1 19:59:56 neptun pppd[235]: Using interface ppp0 Apr 1 19:59:56 neptun pppd[235]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufb Apr 1 19:59:56 neptun pppd[235]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic 0x181e2c29> <pcomp> <accomp>] Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun last message repeated 4 times Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic 0x181e2c29> <pcomp> <accomp>] Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: (1500) Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: (181e2c29) Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: (NAK) Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFNAK. Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: sent [LCP ConfNak id=0x1 <magic 0x3bff621a>] Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: rcvd [LCP ConfNak id=0x1 <magic 0x3bff621a>] Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 <mru 1500> <magic 0x28b4bd5f> <pcomp> <accomp>] Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 <mru 1500> <magic 0x28b4bd5f> <pcomp> <accomp>] Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: (1500) Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: (28b4bd5f) Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: (NAK) Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFNAK. Apr 1 20:00:08 neptun pppd[235]: sent [LCP ConfNak id=0x2 <magic 0x67c2726>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: rcvd [LCP ConfNak id=0x2 <magic 0x67c2726>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 <mru 1500> <magic 0x1ded35e7> <pcomp> <accomp>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 <mru 1500> <magic 0x1ded35e7> <pcomp> <accomp>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (1500) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (1ded35e7) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (NAK) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFNAK. Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: sent [LCP ConfNak id=0x3 <magic 0x105cc695>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: rcvd [LCP ConfNak id=0x3 <magic 0x105cc695>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x4 <mru 1500> <magic 0x8dae6e> <pcomp> <accomp>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x4 <mru 1500> <magic 0x8dae6e> <pcomp> <accomp>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (1500) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (8dae6e) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (NAK) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFNAK. Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: sent [LCP ConfNak id=0x4 <magic 0x1db630b3>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: rcvd [LCP ConfNak id=0x4 <magic 0x1db630b3>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x5 <mru 1500> <magic 0x48d82413> <pcomp> <accomp>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x5 <mru 1500> <magic 0x48d82413> <pcomp> <accomp>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MRU Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (1500) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (48d82413) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (NAK) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: (ACK) Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFNAK. Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: sent [LCP ConfNak id=0x5 <magic 0x655ad512>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: rcvd [LCP ConfNak id=0x5 <magic 0x655ad512>] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: Serial line is looped back. Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x6] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x6] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x6] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x6] Apr 1 20:00:09 neptun pppd[235]: Connection terminated. Apr 1 20:00:10 neptun pppd[235]: Exit. Does anyone know the problem? I have white hardware and NS 3.3 Thanks, Wolfgang
From: jan@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca (Jan Sacharuk) Newsgroups: comp.unix.shell,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Bash for Openstep? Date: 3 Apr 1997 16:59:38 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5i0nlq$sd8@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> I'm assuming that this is possible...I'd just like to know where I can get some directions on doing this, so that I don't bugger up. :) Thanks. :) Jan
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.unix.amiga Subject: Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 18:37:19 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1997Apr3.183719.1944@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <5hu25h$h3t$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <fmlazar-0304970059500001@host049.jerseycity.interactive.net> In <fmlazar-0304970059500001@host049.jerseycity.interactive.net> Frank Lazar wrote: > In article <5hu25h$h3t$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk>, Malcolm Crawford > <Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk> wrote: > > > Try looking at Young Minds: http://www.ymi.com/ -- they seem to offer a good > > range of solutions. > > I did. I was really surprised when I saw among the list of supported > platforms CBM's Amiga Unix. Well that's one piece of real software I can > get for it. :) Don't forget to look at the prices while you are about it. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Icond Dock for NT? Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 17:09:41 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <3342D925.2E08@arch.buffalo.edu> References: <333F4E1E.4E75@communique.net> <01bc3e00$2b2fb440$5fca92cf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Christian Jensen wrote: > > This may not be what you're looking for, but the following address will > lead you to a very attractive and functional NeXT-alike icon dock called, > aptly enough, IconDock, for Win95 (It probably works in NT, but I can't > confirm this): > > http://home1.gte.net/everblue/index.htm Yes.. I can confirm that IconDock works with NT 4.0 For a screen shot of how it looks point your web to: http://aquarius.arch.buffalo.edu/openstep.html It is really cool. and you can do a sub-dock within it as well. So you click on the button and it opens up to the side up to four extra sub-buttons You can download it from http://www.shareware.com Just search for IconDock under the Windows 95 option (It is not listed under NT, but it DOES work with NT). -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: rreynolds@rockstar.com (Richard Reynolds) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nextstep Web Broswer Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 14:42:52 -0800 Organization: Rockstar Studios, Inc. Message-ID: <rreynolds-0204971442530001@sfo-ca21-02.ix.netcom.com> Hello, Does anyone know of a shareware Web Broswer available for 68k NextStep? Any help would be appreciated. -- Rick Reynolds... Head Geek & Executive Nerd Rockstar Studios, Inc. For more FreePPP and Gearbox infor check out http://www.rockstar.com Gearbox is coming in May 97 (Betcha can't wait!)
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Checksum V.2.00 on OS4.0? Date: 2 Apr 1997 20:51:46 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5hugt2$iq7$2@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <5hucol$mh7@news.tamu.edu> schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub) wrote: > The version of Checksum received is v.2.00. With it I cannot reconcile any > accounts that are carrying a negative balance. Whenever I enter a negative > number in the balance text field it defaults back to whatever figure was > there to begin with. The difference field below always indicates zero for > this case. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems? Yes - I've been experiencing the same problem. It works fine on black hardware, but not on Intel or HPPA (I don't think it works on SPARC either, but I can't test right now and I can't remember for sure from my previous tests since they were a while back). It's not an OS version problem, as it works fine on black hardware running 4.1. I work around the problem by NXHosting from black hardware to my Intel box. Obviously this is not an option for many people. -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: ileslie@nmsu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NextStep 3.3 on Gateway -Help Date: 01 Apr 97 09:11:26 Organization: New Mexico State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <ileslie.97Apr191126@orack> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hello, Help is the operative word here. I tried installing NS 3.3 on my Gateway 486, DX250V. I have an Adaptec AHA-1542C SCSI host adapter with An old Sony CD-ROM attached (actually the unit that came with a NeXT). The hard drive is 1.2 GB Western Digital IDE. The drive had three primary DOS partitions (made with the Help of System Commander, see earlier posting titled "Nextstep 3.3 with System Commander") and 201MB left free for NextStep. The installation seemed to fail at the end of the first stage that is called "Preparing disk for NextStep installation". A couple of files could not be moved or created and the computer killed all processes and said "It's safe to turn off the computer". A reboot brought up the type n or d message,but quickly (1-2 seconds) returned the message "no OS", then said strike F1 for reboot retry or F2 for setup. The system is now locked. Perhaps the worst is that the attempted install affectively destroys Win95 that is in the second partition. The other two partions (1 and 3) which have DOS 6.22 survive intact. Actually I've tried this install 3 times and the specifics change a bit depending on whether or not I use System Commander to hide the first three partitions before installing NextStep. I've looked at a lot of Next Answers on www.next.com but must be missing something. I have the specific messages given during the install, but though I would wait and see if anyone was interested in my problem. Chris Jensen has tried to help me. He has sucessfully installed NextStep with Win95 on a SCSI HD (no System Commander though). Is the IDE HD my problem? Has anyone put NextStep, with or without DOS parttions, on an IDE hard drive? How about an Gateway 486 (circa Jan. 1994). All helpful comments welcome, Thanks. Ian Leslie, ileslie@nmsu.edu New Mexico, USA PS. I plan to try the NeXT and System Commander people, but have greater faith in the people out there that have actually done it.
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@ti.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPP-Problems taking over the connection Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 16:38:14 -0600 Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. Message-ID: <33443156.2256@ti.com> References: <5i0j08$9e0@news.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: pusch@email.tuwien.ac.at > ..... dialing and logging in > prompt>ppp > Entering PPP mode. > Async interface address is unnumbered (Ethernet0) > Your IP address is 140.78.5.210. MTU is 1500 bytes > Header compression will match your system. > > ~~}#@!}!}!} }4}"}&} }*} } }%}&WO]A}'}"}(}"}2q~~}#@!}!}"} }4}"}&} }*} } > }%}&WO]A}'}"}(}"XL~~}#@!}!}#} }4}"}&} }*} } }%}&WO]A}'}"}(}"_~~}#@!}!}$} > }4}"}&} }*} } }%}&WO]A}'}"}(}"]?~~}#@!}!}%} }4}"}&} }*} } > }%}&WO]A}'}"}(}"}4,~~}#@!}!}&} }4}"}&} }*} } }%}&WO]A}'}"}(}"^}1~~ > [EOT] > > [Process completed] > > After a lot of not human readable letters (...}'}"}(}"XL~~}#@!}!}#} > }4}"}&} }*} } }%}&WO]A}...) appeared in the terminal I pressed the button > so that pppd should take over the connection (In Windows95 this way works > succesfully). A lot of error messages (see below) appeared which I do not > understand I'm not sure why you are making your connection this way. However, it sounds like you are not telling pppd to use the modem device. You need to add /dev/cufa or /dev/cufb as options to pppd. Otherwise it will use the standard in/out and you will see the garbage characters. Hope this helps. - Steve -- Stephen J. Perkins Tel. +1(972)995-0029, Fax +1(972)995-6194, e-mail: perkins@ti.com Texas Instruments, P.O. Box 655474, MS 446, Dallas, TX 75265
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: 'summaries' in Find panel in Mail.app Date: 3 Apr 1997 21:04:43 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <5i161b$m3o$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970402211742.21874A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > >The 'find' panel in Mail.app has two options > Summaries > Messages > >I assume that the 'Summaries' checks just the headers, and the messages >just the bodies? > >What if I want to search both? > >Does Enhancemail's indexing index just the bodies? > >Thanks all > >TjL Check out MailSearch.app. I find it to be the most efficient way to find email messages in Mail.app mailboxes. --RS PS. I'm sure you know where to look ;-)
From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Virtual Desktop in NeXTSTEP/OpenStep? Date: 3 Apr 1997 15:39:30 GMT Organization: Private NEXTSTEP site, Germany Message-ID: <5i0ivi$1p4@mimi.in-berlin.de> References: <5f8f84$otq@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Cc: jjhuang@min.dorm12.nctu.edu.tw In <5f8f84$otq@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Jiunn-jye Huang wrote: > Hello, > I think maybe many people used Virtual Desktop > in fvwm(an X Window Manager) or that in Win95, > I think this function is very useful in small monitor, > ex. 15 inch, even 17" monitor. > I used VirtScreen. It is not so good, but still > usable. But VirtScreen is only demo version now, I > can't see any order method. > Is there Virtual Desktop Driver on NeXTSTEP? Or how can I > purchase VirtScreen? Thanks in advance. Hi! Take a look at WideScreen 0.5. Works fine and its free. Gerald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 397 31 400 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 public key available |
From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: midi for openstep Date: 3 Apr 1997 15:18:33 GMT Organization: Private NEXTSTEP site, Germany Message-ID: <5i0ho9$1p4@mimi.in-berlin.de> References: <331568FC.1485@prodigy.net> <857259240.3323@dejanews.com> Cc: hoops@cbc.net,KoopaTroopa@prodigy.net In <857259240.3323@dejanews.com> hoops@cbc.net wrote: > In article <331568FC.1485@prodigy.net>, > KoopaTroopa@prodigy.net wrote: > > > > does anyone know of any good midi sequencing or digital multitrack > > recording software for OpenStep Intel? Please point me in the right > > direction > > Here are a few useful links and some apps that might fit the bill. > ProductionPartner > > ProductionPartner is a professional tool for harddisk-recording, playing, > editing and archiving of high quality (CD) sounds. You can rearrange, > cut, paste and edit sounds. Sounds can be collected in archives called > playlists which are unities within ProductionPartner. > > Architectures > NS for Mach/HP PA/Risc: YES > NS for Mach/Intel: YES > NS for Mach/m68k: YES > NS for Mach/Sparc: YES > Pricing > Price: CALL > Site Licenses: $ 295 > Educational Pricing:CALL > > Additional Information Email:info@rcnhost.dasburo.de_ Demo Available: > ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/Audio_ > > > Realtime Computing and Nets (RCN)_ > Flotowstrasse 2 > Berlin > Germany > D-13583 D 12203 Berlin > > +49 30 8340107 > +49 30 8340108 (Fax) > > info@rcnhost.dasburo.de This address is obsolete: email info@rcn.de www http://www.rcn.de ftp ftp://ftp.rcn.de/rcn Gerald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 397 31 400 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 public key available |
From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Checksum V.2.00 on OS4.0? Date: 2 Apr 1997 19:41:09 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5hucol$mh7@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Apr 1997 19:41:09 GMT I used to use Checksum v1.15 on a Nextstation running NS3.x. I recently got a new intel machine to run OS4.0 and have transfered most apps to their intel version. Unfortunately, I only had the moto binaries installed for Checksum 1.15 could find the fat version of the app on any ftp site. Then I saw Stone designs great special to buy all their apps for some low prize. I did so manly to get the new version of Create.app and an updated intel version of Checksum. However,.... The version of Checksum received is v.2.00. With it I cannot reconcile any accounts that are carrying a negative balance. Whenever I enter a negative number in the balance text field it defaults back to whatever figure was there to begin with. The difference field below always indicates zero for this case. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems? To see if maybe only my account was corrupted, I tried creating new accounts and the same thing happened. I also tried running Checksum2.0 on other OS4.0 machine at work with the same result. Stone Design said they weren't able to recreate the bug on their side and pushed the problem off as being "probably caused by using OS4.0." Unfortunately I don't have access to NS3.x anymore to test if it runs fine there. Right now I am back to NXhosting the older moto only Checksum v1.15 across to the new intel machine to balance my checkbook. What a pain and waste of money (Checksum v.2.0). If you have experience similar problems with the new version of Checksum running under OS4.0 (or NS3.x), please let me know. I appreciate any pointers or helpful hints to get this running right. blue skies, Hanspeter Schaub -- Hanspeter Schaub Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant Aerospace Engineering Department Texas A&M University http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome) We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY! -Jonathon Livingston Seagull
From: "Kurt E. Huhner" <khuhner@communique.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Icon Dock for NT? Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 21:25:21 -0600 Organization: NCS, Inc; http://www.ncs-ssc.com Message-ID: <33432321.1736@communique.net> References: <333F4E1E.4E75@communique.net> <01bc3e00$2b2fb440$5fca92cf@default> <3342D925.2E08@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------1B0732D315653" To: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------------1B0732D315653 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <HTML><BODY> jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>You can download it from <A HREF="http://www.shareware.com">http://www.shareware.com</A> <BR>Just search for IconDock under the Windows 95 option <BR>(It is not listed under NT, but it DOES work with NT). </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR>Does anybody know where I can ~actually~ download this thing? <BR>I have tried <I> <A HREF="http://home1.gte.net/everblue/index.htm">http://home1.gte.net/everblue/index.htm </A></I> <BR>(page blank) and <A HREF="http://www.shareware.com">http://www.shareware.com </A>"(Document <BR>contains no data" error) and no sucess. <BR> </BODY> </HTML> ------------1B0732D315653 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Kurt Huhner Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="nsmailK2.TMP" Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="nsmailK2.TMP" BEGIN:VCARD FN:Kurt Huhner N:Huhner;Kurt ORG:Nation Computer Services ADR:;;Bldg. 9110 MSAAP;Stennis Space Center;MS;39529 EMAIL;INTERNET:khuhner@communique.net TITLE:Software Consultant TEL;WORK:(601)689-8100 TEL;FAX:(601)689-8130 X-MOZILLA-HTML:T END:VCARD ------------1B0732D315653--
From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Date: 3 Apr 1997 03:42:32 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hv8v8$kvi$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> References: <5hu25h$h3t$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> In article <5hu25h$h3t$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Malcolm Crawford <Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk> writes: >In <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" wrote: >> Hi, I am curious on how to CD-ROM burn some NeXT media, and am wondering >> if in the software that RockRidge Extensions are Necessary in addition >> to ISO 9660? Take the NEXTSTEP 3.3 disc, what exactly is required of >> the burning software to do this successfully. A Mac solution would be >> prefered... Yes, burn with Rockridge extensions and things will come out fine. Use mkisofs to create an ISO image file, and then burn that from your Mac. I've done it with both Windoze and Mac CD-R burners without problems. -- Leigh Computer Science, University of Western Australia Smith +61-9-380-3778 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME)
From: BillLee@cleaf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniImage problem Date: 4 Apr 1997 01:04:40 GMT Organization: Intex.Net (http://www.intex.net/) Message-ID: <5i1k39$nd5@animal.intex.net> (I've tried to send this question to OmniImage@omnigroup.com but every attempt has been undelivered.) I have a question concerning OmniImage. When displaying an EPS image, it provides a grey background upon which the PostScript is rendered. If I then do a "Save To.." using something other than tiff (e.g., gif), the background is rendered in black. For the most part, this renders the gif file useless. I can overcome this problem by altering the EPS file to purposely set the entire background to white or some other color, and this is not difficult on EPS files I create from scratch. However, it is darned near impossible if the EPS file is a file output from some other application. It also causes the EPS image to block everything "underneath" when the image is placed into another document. I suspect there is a Preference available to me, but the Preferences menu item is greyed out and unavailable. Can you give me some help? Thanks in advance. Bill Lee PS: I discovered quite by accident that if you click inside an OmniImage window, the background changes to some random color. Is this a "feature"?
From: Sam <sam@kuodesign.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 2 Question Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 20:17:56 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <334456C2.38F4@kuodesign.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a Mac user and I'm very excited about the Apple/Next merger. I just can't wait for Rhapsody to come out. I want to get my hands on Nextstep/Openstep right now to get a feel for it--see how it ticks.... 1) I'm considering buying a used Next station (because it looks so cool) or buy some PC (gasp!) to run the NS/OS OS. Since I'm a newbie to the Next world (Although I do have the complete set of NextWorld magazine, btw) Can anyone help me out with thoughts? 2) A real stupid one. Since Nextstep runs on 040 chips, can't we run NS on a Mac Quadra? Stop laughing, I was just wondering. :-) Thanks Sam ============================================================== What does one call a Philipino contortionist? A Manila Folder. ==============================================================
From: Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Java for NeXTStep/OPENSTEP Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 04:33:41 -0800 Organization: Code Monkeys of America Message-ID: <33425225.633B@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does such a thing exist and if so does OmniWeb support it? Thanks in advance. -- Rich Markle >> rmarkle@earthlink.net (310)442-8086
From: "John H. Casseday" <casseday@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MindOverMail Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 20:39:18 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <33433476.3D93@u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know how to contact the people who used to run Salt Spring Technical, makers of MindOverMail?
From: R Wakeman: rwakeman@thoughtport.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NextStep 3.3 on Gateway -Help Date: 4 Apr 1997 03:56:48 GMT Message-ID: <5i1u60$987@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <ileslie.97Apr191126@orack> In-Reply-To: <ileslie.97Apr191126@orack> On 03/31/97, ileslie@nmsu.edu wrote: >Hello, > >Help is the operative word here. I tried installing NS 3.3 on my Gateway 486, DX250V. I've heard stories from Next users that the Gateway people have been very helpful and knowledgeable when people call them about installing NextStep on their hardware. Try giving them a call. I don't have their number.
From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java for NeXTStep/OPENSTEP Date: 3 Apr 1997 03:59:35 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <5hv9v7$2d9@news-central.tiac.net> References: <33425225.633B@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <33425225.633B@earthlink.net> On 04/02/97, Rich Markle wrote: > Does such a thing exist and if so does OmniWeb support it? Thanks in >advance. Yes and no. Java on NeXTSTEP does exists. OmniWeb doesn't support it. Aleksey (busy with JStep website)
From: "Alan Cook" <alancook@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need PPP chat script for Gatekeeper to vonnect to IBM Internet services Date: 4 Apr 1997 05:24:28 GMT Message-ID: <01bc40fc$03ab1050$f4b12581@remax> Looking for someone that has a NSFI system connected to IBM Internet services I am having problems with the AUTH connection and need to look at their options file for the connection and any pcp-secrets file they may be using. alancook@cyberstore.com
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What comes with OpenStep? Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 17:18:13 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <3342DB25.3922@arch.buffalo.edu> References: <333BC81C.7CD9@phys.psu.edu> <5hhdsf$j5j@sps1.phys.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi I thought it might be useful to list what comes with OPENSTEP/NT (USER + DEVELOPER + EOF) In /NextDemos: BugNeXT.app Console.app Draw.app ObjectAlloc.app Preview.app TextEdit.app Yap.app In /NextDeveloper/Apps: EOModeler.app FileMerge.app InterfaceBuilder.app ProjectBuilder.app There are other examples and numerous behind-the-scenes executables and such to make the thing work. -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: Lars Immisch <lars@ibp.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: win95, NT, & OpenStep NT... Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 18:32:42 +0200 Organization: Immisch, Becker & Partner Message-ID: <3343DBAA.6E83@ibp.de> References: <5hvi3p$3qi@news3.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Kheit wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm putting together a, shock, non OPENSTEP system this friday. > I want to have win95 for the very limited purpose of booting to > play games :) And NT to do OpenStep NT development on... I have > a 1Gb drive for all purposes (it's a laptop)... > > So, I was thinking I could set up a tiney partition, say 64Mb's > for win95; just enough to boot off of. And give NT the rest, but > make the NT partition a DOS type of partition. Figuring, I could > boot in win 95, yet save all my apps on the NT partition; games > included. That way, I could kick off the 64Mb parition on drive > C, and then double click on say Quake on the drive D/NT partition > and things would work. Otherwise, when not playing games I could > simple boot on drive D with NT and do development. You don't want to do this ;-) 8.3 is unbearable for practically everything unless you are used to it since age 8 and have never seen anything else and have too little imagination to even think it could be different... > However, I understand that to install OpenStep on NT one MUST make > drive D an NTFS filesystem (not to mention install ALL of the > network stuff). If I do have to make drive D NTFS, then, I'm > guessing, when booting in the win95 partition, I won't be able to > access any files on the NT partition... Yes, but this should only be a problem when you run out of space for games. > So is my only option set aside, say 200Mb for win95 and games? Or > is there someway to share filesystems between win95 and NT w/ > OpenStep? (perhaps I should just get a zip drive and boot off of > that for games....) You will be able to use the FAT space from NT, just not vice versa. You can even give the FAT files real names; they will be mangled when viewed from DOS. Later, Lars -- mailto:immisch@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~immisch Yesterdays yellow yoyo can make you yawn today
From: hamel@messiaen.ubc.ca (Keith Hamel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PAP Compatibility Date: 4 Apr 1997 06:38:34 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <5i27la$s72$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> The University Computer Service has altered its PPP link so that it will support PAP (Password Authentication Protocol). I have been using GateKeeper to connect via modem (using ppp 2.2 and the appropriate scripts). These no longer works with PAP. Is there a program that supports PAP that I can use instead of GateKeeper? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
From: rbumpus@comp.uark.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anti-Virus Software Date: 3 Apr 1997 05:34:44 GMT Organization: The University of Arkansas Message-ID: <5hvfhk$51n@picayune.uark.edu> Does anyone know of anti-virus software that will run on NeXTStep 3.0? Bob Bumpus University of Arkansas rbumpus@comp.uark.edu
From: dmcke40249@aol.com (DMcke40249) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: NeXTStep 3.3 CD or OpenStep 4.X CD Date: 4 Apr 1997 09:48:46 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970404094800.EAA01340@ladder01.news.aol.com> I have a NeXTstation Color and need some software on CD just in case. Does anybody have a cheap CD floating around for sale? Thanks.
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PAP Compatibility Date: 4 Apr 1997 10:24:13 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5i2ksd$g0b@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <5i27la$s72$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> In article <5i27la$s72$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> hamel@messiaen.ubc.ca (Keith Hamel) writes: >The University Computer Service has altered its PPP link so that it will >support PAP (Password Authentication Protocol). I have been using >GateKeeper to connect via modem (using ppp 2.2 and the appropriate >scripts). These no longer works with PAP. Is there a program that >supports PAP that I can use instead of GateKeeper? > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. Current versions of GateKeeper do not know about or care whether you use PAP. PAP secrets are global (see man pppd for details). You probably just need to set up a secrets file and reduce your pppup script so that it just dials into your provider. -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Saudi Prince buys 5% Stake in Apple Date: 3 Apr 1997 02:27:15 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5hv4i3$kh8@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> Hello NeXT/Apple Community: Saudi Prince al-Waleed purchased a 5% stake in Apple today. Good move! Best regards Rob Blessin -- {\rtf0\ansi{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss Helvetica;} \paperw9840 \paperh8400 \margl120 \margr120 \pard\tx520\tx1060\tx1600\tx2120\tx2660\tx3200\tx3720\tx4260\tx4800\tx5320\f0\b0\i0\ulnone\fs24\fc0\cf0 Best regards: \ \ Rob Blessin\ President\ Black Hole, Incorporated\ 748 Poplar St.\ Denver , CO 80220\ \ 303-393-6419\ 303-320-0949\ \ http://www.blackholeinc.com/\ \ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine\ \ Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993. }
From: "Tailor.S" <sunil@dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OPENSTEP printer driver for HP LaserJect 5L Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 14:20:59 +0100 Organization: Royal Holloway College, University of London Message-ID: <3345003B.41C6@dcs.rhbnc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear OPENSTEP user I'm looking for a printer Driver for the HP LaserJet 5L that will run on OPENSTEP v4.0 for Mach, I know that JetPolit supports the 4L and let's you print on the 5L however you have to pay for that driver. And I was woundering if anyone knowns where I can get a FREE driver for the HP LaserJet 5L off the Web... Thank you for taking the time to read this e-mail , look forward to hearing from some one on the planet.....
From: Mark Lasersohn <laser@cowhouse.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NextStep 3.3 on Gateway -Help Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 08:41:26 -0500 Organization: Cow House Productions Message-ID: <33450506.167E@cowhouse.com> References: <ileslie.97Apr191126@orack> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ileslie@nmsu.edu wrote: > > Hello, > > Help is the operative word here. I tried installing NS 3.3 on my > Gateway 486, DX250V. I have an Adaptec AHA-1542C SCSI host adapter > with An old Sony CD-ROM attached (actually the unit that came with a > NeXT). The hard drive is 1.2 GB Western Digital IDE. The drive had > three primary DOS partitions (made with the Help of System Commander, > see earlier posting titled "Nextstep 3.3 with System Commander") and > 201MB left free for NextStep. The installation seemed to fail at the > end of the first stage that is called "Preparing disk for NextStep > installation". A couple of files could not be moved or created and the > computer killed all processes and said "It's safe to turn off the > computer". A reboot brought up the type n or d message,but quickly > (1-2 seconds) returned the message "no OS", then said strike F1 for > reboot retry or F2 for setup. The system is now locked. > > Perhaps the worst is that the attempted install affectively destroys > Win95 that is in the second partition. The other two partions > (1 and 3) which have DOS 6.22 survive intact. Actually I've tried > this install 3 times and the specifics change a bit depending on > whether or not I use System Commander to hide the first three > partitions before installing NextStep. > > I've looked at a lot of Next Answers on www.next.com but must be > missing something. I have the specific messages given during the > install, but though I would wait and see if anyone was interested in > my problem. > > Chris Jensen has tried to help me. He has sucessfully installed > NextStep with Win95 on a SCSI HD (no System Commander though). Is > the IDE HD my problem? Has anyone put NextStep, with or without DOS > parttions, on an IDE hard drive? How about an Gateway 486 (circa Jan. > 1994). > > All helpful comments welcome, Thanks. > > Ian Leslie, ileslie@nmsu.edu > New Mexico, USA > > PS. I plan to try the NeXT and System Commander people, but have > greater faith in the people out there that have actually done it. -- I seem to be having a similar problem installing on my Powerspec P133 clone. It gets to the point of actually trying to install and then informs me that it can't create the directories need on the harddrive (IDE) - tells me it is safe to shutdown, and you know the rest. Mark Lasersohn Cow House Productions laser@cowhouse.com http://www.cowhouse.com 330-569-7492
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anti-Virus Software Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 09:48:53 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <QnFFHJG00iV9I27xcO@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5hvfhk$51n@picayune.uark.edu> In-Reply-To: <5hvfhk$51n@picayune.uark.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 3-Apr-97 Anti-Virus Software by rbumpus@comp.uark.edu > Does anyone know of anti-virus software that will run on NeXTStep 3.0? There isn't any such software-- of course, there aren't any known viruses for NEXTSTEP on Black hardware, either. Remember, Unix systems are effectively immune to being infected by viruses because of the multiuser protections which prevent normal user processes from changing system files. If you're concerned about this type of thing, spend some effort improving the Unix security aspects of NEXTSTEP-- update sendmail, install TCP_wrappers, replace the portmapper, disable unneeded services in /etc/inetd.conf, etc. ( If you had a NEXTSTEP/Intel system, it possible for it to contract a boot sector virus if you dual-boot into Windows or some such, but normal PC antivirus software will check for those. ) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MindOverMail Date: 3 Apr 1997 20:47:27 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5i150v$hp4@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <33433476.3D93@u.washington.edu> Cc: casseday@u.washington.edu In <33433476.3D93@u.washington.edu> "John H. Casseday" wrote: > Does anyone know how to contact the people who used to run Salt Spring > Technical, makers of MindOverMail? > you can try: 503-684-1416 or saltspring@eyrie.com these from their license panel, I don't recall how current that is. I haven't talked to them in a year or so... Rick
From: rraman@site.gmu.edu (Ravishankar Ramanathan (CSI)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Compiling gcc (version 2.7.2) under NS3.3/ Dev3.2 Date: 3 Apr 1997 19:47:17 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <5i11g5$eh1@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all: I was trying to get gcc compile under NS 3.3User/ 3.2Dev and am running into trouble with move-if-change. There is a warning in the makefile about move-if-change and how it could cause problems in Sun. I looked into the compiled version of gcc2.7.2.1 available from the next archives - frankly I have no idea where the directories go :-( I believe some should go into /usr/bin but I have no way of knowing where all the files should go. (It would be nice if the author of the precompiled version included a map of where the binaries should be!) Anyways, could some one please tell me if there is a way to compile the gcc and if I need any additional piece of software to do it. Here is what I have: NeXT Turbo 32MB RAM 3.3 User w/ 3.2 Developer Installed 1.1 EOF User/ Developer with all patches installed gnu package (from NextCD/gnu in 3.2 developer) installed bison 1.25 installed (that went through without a problem!) Additionally, anyone succeded in compiling mSQL 2.0.B5 on the above machine? (It quits saying mmap and uint/ uint_32 not present - is there a place where they can be found?) Thanks for all the patience... -Ravi
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS March Quiz results, new April Quiz started Date: 4 Apr 1997 15:41:29 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5i37f9$1i2@peng.ping.at> The SSS March Quiz has ended, the winners are drawn, and the new April Quiz has started NOW! For March results as well as for the new April quiz question, please visit http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/quiz.html Deadline for the new quiz is May 1. As always, the winners will receive a free HelpViewer *or* LatinByrd license, or alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software (including SuperDraw, SuperDebugger, and others). Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem with tip Date: 4 Apr 1997 08:49:30 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Message-ID: <5i2faq$41@hagen.amg.de> Hello, yet another problem to get to my Internet Provider (I installed the Port Server Driver now, thanks to everyone who answered me): I edited /etc/remote to add an entry for my provider, and used the + br option to set the baud rate to 19200 (how to set it higher ?) + du flag Questions: - how to set the br higher than 19200, if I set it to 28800 tip tells me 'bad baud rate' - when I specify the at=hayes option tip tells me something like 'cannot init hayes' (I don't remember the exact words) - when I don't use the at option tip writes 'connected', but I cannot type anything, not even Ctrl-C to exit !! - cu started with cu -l cub -my_providers_phone_number always tells me 'line cub busy' Can you post me your tip /etc/remote config, or help me in any other way, to get a connection by just typing at dp phone_number, see the login, the password line, and start the pppd daemon on my providers server ? I got at least ppp installed, I installed the ISA Serial port Driver, the Port Server driver, now what am I doing wrong again, is it so difficult to get connected to my provider under OPENSTEP (or am I gone mad by using Win95 ??) ;-) Thanks Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de)
From: m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Faxing ? Date: 4 Apr 1997 08:54:08 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Message-ID: <5i2fjg$41@hagen.amg.de> Hi there again, I got a problem with my modem used as a fax: I have got a 'Dr. Neuhaus Cybermod 28800' installed as a HSD FaxModem in the PrinterManager. When I want to send a fax, the modem dials the phone-number, I hear that the other fax is responding (you know these strange sounds...;-)), but it does not send anything, I think, because the LED's for sending or receiving to not flash, only the LED for connection and on-line is flashed out. What am I doing wrong ?? Thanks, Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de)
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: 'summaries' in Find panel in Mail.app Date: Thu, 3 Apr 1997 17:48:04 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970403174659.10608A-100000@kira> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970402211742.21874A-100000@kira> <5i161b$m3o$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Ryan Scott <scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu> In-Reply-To: <5i161b$m3o$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> > Check out MailSearch.app. I find it to be the most efficient way to find email messages > in Mail.app mailboxes. Does it work with nested Mailboxes introduced with NS 3.3? > PS. I'm sure you know where to look ;-) ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/MailSearch.3.0.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/MailSearch3.0.README
From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniImage problem Date: 4 Apr 1997 19:09:12 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5i3jko$csa@supernews.login.net> References: <5i1k39$nd5@animal.intex.net> In-Reply-To: <5i1k39$nd5@animal.intex.net> For conversion from tiff or eps to gif and/or jpeg, LatinByrd.app (from Schneider Software) will work like magic and without effort. See the "Conversion of Images" section at: http://www.mlink.net/~tralala/English/LatinByrd/IntroLatinByrd.html - André ------------------------------------------------------
From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java for NeXTStep/OPENSTEP Date: 4 Apr 1997 19:41:46 -0000 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5i3lhq$kac@sps1.phys.vt.edu> References: <33425225.633B@earthlink.net> <5hv9v7$2d9@news-central.tiac.net> <5i0lt0$c2n$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> [This article Cc'ed to poster.] In article <5i0lt0$c2n$1@gaea.omnigroup.com>, kc@ignem.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) wrote: > However, it now appears that Apple is busy putting java into Rhapsody, > so unless someone does have an urgent need (and are therefore willing > to pay us to finish our implementation) we'll probably just wait for > Apple's java. If you're just going to use Apple's Java and scrap your own implementation, have you considered releasing yours to GNUstep (preferable, you'll get the best development that way), or to the MiscKit (the way NeXT is handling the IndexingKit and 3DKit, non-free source, but free binary and outsourced maintenance)? There is already work going on for a free Java runtime (kaffe), but yours might still be useful and whatever OpenStep-specific stuff you've done (like AWT) definitely would make a wonderful addition to the GNUstep effort. You might not like releasing it free after all the work you guys have put into it, but I think it would be better to see someone finish it than just throw it away and have all that effort wasted.
From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Respecting Transparency Date: 5 Apr 1997 04:22:28 GMT Message-ID: <5i4k24$69o@news1-alterdial.uu.net> hey folks i've been wondering: why is the transparency of an imported picture not recognized by virtuoso 2.0 or illustrator 3.0.1, but is by paste up 2.6 and create 1.0? has anybody gotten a picture's transparency to be seen (through) in virtuoso? even bitmaps, while appearing ok on-screen, are printing out with black where transparent. pix are saved in tiffany2.401 as rgba. thanks for any help. chris borden cdb@thoughtport.com
From: gback@teleport.com (George Back & Diane McManus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TypeView for NeXT Computers - For Sale $9.99 Starting Bid Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 21:11:53 -0800 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Sender: -yp- @ptp-195.cport.com Message-ID: <gback-0404972111530001@ptp-195.cport.com> If interested, go to http://www.ebay.com/aw/item.cgi?item=rlc3807 TypeView for NeXT Computers Quick Index: Extras, Product Description, System Requirements, What's in the package, Who should NOT buy this, Questions?, Shipping and Payment -------------------------------------------------------- Extras: -Attention Resellers: Brand NEW and Still In the Shrink Wrap!- (Click Here To See Some Other New and Like-New Items I Have For Sale) Back to Top -------------------------------------------------------- Description: TypeView for NeXT Computers "A complete software package for understanding, accessing, and using all features of fonts" TypeView is the perfect companion product for any Desktop Publishing, Illustration, or Presentation Software Package. TypeView allows you to quickly view the entire character set of a particular font, locate an unusual character and copy and paste into your document, and allow you to see paragraphs of text in many type families, styles and sizes. All of TypeView's features allow you to quickly analyze text and access characters in your font file. TypeView works within the NeXT services framework and can be launched by opening font files. It lets you spend more time being creative, imaginative, and more resourceful. If you are an expert graphic designer, TypeView can expose the subtleties of typefaces-details that are often hidden by the computer. Even if you have only a limited knowledge of typefaces, TypeView can greatly improve your access and control of typefaces and type attributes. (Yes, all the above came right off the package.) OK, Now Go to http://www.ebay.com/aw/item.cgi?item=rlc3807 to Bid on this or you'll have to read this: OK, You were Warned! Take The Day Off CREDIT: The Washington Post contest: Best Reasons for not coming to work * If it is all the same to you I won't be coming to work. The voices told me to clean all the guns today. * When I got up this morning I took two Ex-Lax in addition to my Prozac. I can't get off the john, but I feel good about it. * I set half the clocks in my house ahead an hour and the other half back an hour Saturday and spent 18 hours in some kind of space-time continuum loop, reliving Sunday (right up until the explosion). I was able to exit the loop only by reversing the polarity of the power source exactly e*log(pi) clocks in the house while simultaneously rapping my dog on the snout with a rolled up Times. Accordingly, I will be in late, or early. * My stigma's acting up. * I can't come in to work today because I'll be stalking my previous boss, who fired me for not showing up for work. Ok? * I have a rare case of 48-hour projectile leprosy, but I know we have that deadline to meet... * I am stuck in the blood pressure machine down at the Wal-Mart. * Yes, I seem to have contracted some attention-deficit disorder and, hey, how about them Skins, huh? So, I won't be able to, yes, could I help you? No, no, I'll be sticking with AT&T, but thank you for calling. * Constipation has made me a walking time bomb. * I just found out that I was switched at birth. Legally, I shouldn't come in to work knowing my employee records may now contain false information. * The psychiatrist said it was an excellent session. He even gave me this jaw restraint so I won't bite things when I am startled. * The dog ate my car keys. We're going to hitchhike to the vet. * I prefer to remain an enigma. * My mother-in-law has come back as one of the undead and we must track her to her coffin to drive a stake through her heart and give her eternal peace. One day should do it. * I can't come to work today because the EPA has determined that my house is completely surrounded by wetlands and I have to arrange for helicopter transportation. * I am converting my calendar from Julian to Gregorian. * I am extremely sensitive to a rise in the interest rates. * My wife makes more money than I do, so I have to stay at home with our sick son. * I refuse to travel to my job in the District until there is a commuter tax. I insist on paying my fair share. * I'm feeling a little disgruntled this morning. You sure I should come in? * I can't come in because the deadline is Monday and so far I only have seven different fun things to do with. Back to Top -------------------------------------------------------- System Requirements: You need to have a NeXT Computer. Other than that I don't know. Sorry. Back to Top -------------------------------------------------------- What's in the package? What's in the package? Everything -- it's brand new and never been opened! .Back to Top -------------------------------------------------------- Who should NOT buy this: *NOTE! If you DON'T have a NeXT Computer - DO NOT BUY THIS! However, if you click here, I do have some items for sale that WILL run on your Macintosh or PC!. -------------------------------------------------------- Questions? Please email and ask me .. and I will do my best to answer them. Back to Top -------------------------------------------------------- Shipping and Payment and Conditions: Buyers inside the USA: Buyer must prepay and prepay shipping and handling charge of $5.10 within the US. This includes delivery by Certified PRIORITY (supposed to get to you in 2 days) US Mail which is the ONLY way we Ship! YOU MUST BE THERE TO SIGN FOR IT! (This isn't like UPS where it's "your word against theirs" that you got it). Personal Check is fine, but it has to clear (10 working days = 2 weeks) before we ship the product to you. Returned checks subject to $15.00 service charge. (If you live in Washington State: Washington Residents ONLY need to add 7% Sales Tax to Total -- Sorry 'bout that.) Buyers outside of the USA : Full amount plus postage for shipping via US Post Office with return receipt must be paid in US Dollars by remitting U.S. equivalent international money order or check from a US bank. Buyer will respond and/or make contact within 3 business days and payment must be received 10 business following that. Exceptions will be made on an as needed basis if I am contacted about it ahead of time. If these rules are not followed, sale will be null and void and I will be under no further obligation to sell said item. Thank You! Back to Top -------------------------------------------------------- If interested, go to http://www.ebay.com/aw/item.cgi?item=rlc3807 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Digital Librarian-like app for Windows NT? Date: 5 Apr 1997 06:10:50 GMT Organization: -=MO.NET=- MVP-Net, Inc's Missouri Operations Message-ID: <5i4qda$ink@twain.mvp.net> Does anyone know of an application that runs on NT that is roughly comparable (or better) than Digital Librarian? I'd like to find something that offered more extensive search capabilities, but it seems like the only things that are available are either too trivial or too huge and expensive. It's kind of hard to ask Windows software vendors if they have anything like Digital Librarian, so I'm hoping that some NeXT users who are also NT users might have some ideas. Anyone?
From: ileslie@nmsu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3, IDE, System Commander Date: 02 Apr 97 08:42:21 Organization: New Mexico State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <ileslie.97Apr284221@orack> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Wel l, I blew it. All this trouble putting NextStep 3.3 on my 486 Gateway 2000. When I was choosing the an IDE driver from the driver floppy choices I didn't see that there were THREE pages to choose drivers from. I entered the number 7 once and saw IDE driver as choice 6 on the continued list. Guess what? You can press 7 again and get another two choices (this I didn't see until the fourth attempted install). One of those two choices is for IDE driver for HD's larger than 504MB. I have 1.2GB drive and was using a 504MB driver. No wonder it was destroying Windows 95 which was located on a 511MB partition starting at 91MB in. Well once I installed the right driver all went smoothly. Also, Sytem Commander recognized the NextStep OS and works as advertised. My previous two posting may be ignored with my blessings. Still learning, Ian Leslie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: RCS for NS -- recommendations Message-ID: <1997Apr6.105407.528@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: szallies@energotec.de Organization: Disorganization References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970402211213.21175A-100000@kira> <5hvml5$7tj1@ddfo3.technet.net> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 10:54:07 GMT In <5hvml5$7tj1@ddfo3.technet.net> Constantin Szallies wrote: > CVS may not work very well if you have a large set of developers because CVS > has an optimistic locking strategy. CVS is no substitute for project management, thus having 100 developers editing the same file is probably not a good solution. It is actually no problem to use CVS with a large group of developers. CVS merges changes from other developers into your local source, which works well and is easy to understand. > We also noticed some performance problems when using CVS with NFS, but this > might be Nextsteps old NFS implementation. You can use CVS without NFS. Newer versions have a client/server architecture, you can use it even over modem lines.
From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BackSpace and Risk problems Date: 6 Apr 1997 17:08:52 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970406170800.NAA00350@ladder01.news.aol.com> I have a NeXTstation with NS 3.0. I have BackSpaceDuo installed. I tried adding more modules. BackSpace recognizes that they are there but can't load them. Yes, they are NeXT hardware binaries. Anyone know what the problem could be? Also, my copy of Risk doesn't recognize any computer player files. Any ideas? TIA, Joe
From: m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Serial port problem Date: 2 Apr 1997 14:12:40 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Message-ID: <5htpgo$d86@hagen.amg.de> Hi NextFolks, I've got another problem with OPENSTEP/INTEL: When I boot up my machine with -v OPENSTEP tells me, that the ISASerialPortDriver is installed for COM1 and for COM2. But when I want to use tip to get on /dev/cub or /dev/cua (the same with cufa, cufb) I get the message /dev/cux (where x is a, b, fa, fb): no such device. What am I doing wrong ? Thanks Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de)
From: ihate@spammers.com (bf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: WTB: Wordperfect for NS black Date: 6 Apr 1997 23:22:55 GMT Organization: Crack Whores of America Message-ID: <5i9b8f$nv2$1@brokaw.wa.com> I have a color station running NS 3.3u/3.2d and would like a copy of Wordpefect for it. If you have a version youd like to sell, please drop me an email at: larryf@halcyon.com -b ----------------------------------------------------- http://www.halcyon.com/larryf/ -- larryf@halcyon.com --NOTE: Email address in header is fake due to spam-- -----------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: olaf@orest.escape.de Subject: Re: Faxing ? Message-ID: <E85s11.1yx@orest.escape.de> Sender: olaf@orest.escape.de (Olaf Mueller) Organization: Objective Methods, Inc. References: <5i2fjg$41@hagen.amg.de> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 09:36:37 GMT In article <5i2fjg$41@hagen.amg.de> m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) writes: > Hi there again, > > I got a problem with my modem used as a fax: > > I have got a 'Dr. Neuhaus Cybermod 28800' installed as a HSD FaxModem in the > PrinterManager. > > When I want to send a fax, the modem dials the phone-number, I hear that the > other fax is responding (you know these strange sounds...;-)), but it does > not send anything, I think, because the LED's for sending or receiving to not > flash, only the LED for connection and on-line is flashed out. > > What am I doing wrong ?? > > Thanks, > Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de) The modem driver delivered by Next work together with only a few modems. Alternatives are NXFax or OlafAM. Your modem is probably in both cases not on the compatibility list. But you can try them in demo mode. They can be found on Next related archives. Regards Olaf
From: Steve Haynes <shaynes@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New NextStep user Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 19:23:22 -0500 Organization: Widomaker Public Access Internet (804)221-8070 Message-ID: <3342F87A.C56@ibm.net> References: <333de055.0@139.134.5.33> <EnDhC6q00iV9Q3r0VP@andrew.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Charles William Swiger wrote: > > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 30-Mar-97 Re: New NextStep > user by Clive S. - Webmaster@nas > > Sorry its taken so long for a reply. I didn't get much help from the > > arsholes who hang around the next groups so I felt that I had to > > reply...even if by now you've worked it out. > > Clue: referring to people as "arsholes" is a good way to not get help. > Try being polite instead. The NeXT newsgroups are full of helpful > people and there are lots of web resources available, too. Hello, Just my .02 here on this topic. When my firm began using Nextstep 3.3 I posted many many questions on the Next newsgroups and without fail got a large quantity of good advice and accurate diagnosis on problems. I very much appreciated the help I received and have found the groups invaluable in learning the in's and out's of the OS. Thanks Steve Haynes EQB Industries.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199704051550.KAA07868@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 97 10:49:57 -0500 Subject: sysadmin messages on shell login (not /etc/motd!) Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Greetings I have seen systems where the sysadmin could put messages and when people logged in they would see: "1 new message, read? [Y/n]" and there could be a whole host of messages -- but once you read them it was recorded (in ~/.msgrc ??) so you did not see the old messages after you had already seen them once -- which is what is different than /etc/motd. Does anyone know of a NeXTstep program which can do this? Thanks TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me
From: dmcke40249@aol.com (DMcke40249) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 Japanese Input? Date: 7 Apr 1997 03:31:58 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970407033001.XAA18100@ladder01.news.aol.com> I do a lot of word processing in Japanese on my Mac. I have just bought a NeXTstation with an English system. Is there any way to input Japanese without going through the expense of buying the Japanese system software? (I looked at NeXT Japan's web site and OPENSTEP 4.1 is going for $1,250.) Is there a NeXT or third party equivelant to the Apple Japanese Language Kit?
From: "Nassos Giannopoulos" <ngian.ath.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 2 Question Date: 5 Apr 1997 13:10:19 GMT Organization: FORTHnet S.A. - HELLENIC TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND TELEMATICS APPLICATIONS COMPANY Message-ID: <01bc41c2$86f698a0$c2c8dbc2@dummy.forthnet.gr> References: <334456C2.38F4@kuodesign.com> Hi, if you are going to buy a PC (or a SPARC, or a HP) to run NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP you should better check out the Hardware Compatibillity Guide, before you make a purchase, at the NeXT site ( htttp://www.next.com ). If you want to buy a ready make PC with NeXTSTEP and you live in Europe or the UK you should check out ( http://www.plsys.co.uk/plsys.home.htmld/index.html ). If you live in the USA you can contact BIFROST Workstations (http://www.bifrostworks.com/) or Optimal Object ( sorry I can't remmember their site's address, but you can use Lycos or Yahoo to find it ). On the other hand if you want to buy original NeXT hardware you should look at Spherical Solutions ( http://www.orb.com/ ). However before you buy any hardware be sure to check the StepWise NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Server where you can find a WWW introduction to NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP (just to get you more excited). As for your second question, no NeXTSTEP does not run on Macs, because if it did NeXT would be able to sell NeXTSTEP for Macinstosh which it didn't. Before I end can you please tell where I can find (buy) the NextWorld magazine, because I have been trying for some time find it unsuccessfully. Thanks :-) Sam <sam@kuodesign.com> wrote in article <334456C2.38F4@kuodesign.com>... > I am a Mac user and I'm very excited about the Apple/Next merger. I just > can't wait for Rhapsody to come out. I want to get my hands on > Nextstep/Openstep right now to get a feel for it--see how it ticks.... > > 1) I'm considering buying a used Next station (because it looks so cool) > or buy some PC (gasp!) to run the NS/OS OS. ....
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Getting Openstep to recognize NTFS partition? Date: 5 Apr 1997 08:35:21 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <5i5keq$bpg@papoose.quick.com> References: <5i0js4$12us@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> In article <5i0js4$12us@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Jan Sacharuk <jan@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca> wrote: > > >Every time I start up Openstep (once NeXTstep..) it tells me that it >can't read from my drive that has NT on it. Add the partition to the /etc/fstab file with a type field of 'ignore'. example (tailor this for your specific needs): /dev/sd2h /NT ignore ro 2 1 man mntent for more information. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars?
From: Ian_Stewart@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Virtual Desktop in NeXTSTEP/OpenStep? Date: 7 Apr 1997 06:07:18 GMT Organization: VeriFone ICD Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ia2um$tde$1@pornstorm.eit.com> References: <5i0ivi$1p4@mimi.in-berlin.de> VirtSpace is still available! Give us a call or email! Ian H. Stewart 800-664-6976 or 707-429-1410 mer@nyro.com In article <5i0ivi$1p4@mimi.in-berlin.de> gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) writes: > In <5f8f84$otq@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Jiunn-jye Huang wrote: > > Hello, > > I think maybe many people used Virtual Desktop > > in fvwm(an X Window Manager) or that in Win95, > > I think this function is very useful in small monitor, > > ex. 15 inch, even 17" monitor. > > I used VirtScreen. It is not so good, but still > > usable. But VirtScreen is only demo version now, I > > can't see any order method. > > Is there Virtual Desktop Driver on NeXTSTEP? Or how can I > > purchase VirtScreen? Thanks in advance. > > Hi! > > Take a look at WideScreen 0.5. Works fine and its free. > > Gerald > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > | GERALD ERDMANN > | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) > | voice: +49 30 397 31 400 (Germany - Berlin) > | crypt: pgp2 public key available > |
From: jfv@hasc.com (Jean-Francois Veillette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 5 Apr 1997 16:36:45 GMT Organization: news.interlinx.qc.ca Message-ID: <5i5v2t$nti@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5g1lvt$3se$1@darla.visi.com> You (David Young <dwy@ace.net>) wrote in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 10 Mar 1997 19:04:29 GMT: > I've been sidetracked, but I was playing with the m68k JIT and moving > it to NS. If anyone knows a really sharp reference on inlining > assembly with gcc, let me know. :) > > -- > # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp > # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 > # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better) do you have a working version ? the i386 version is working OK (javac is working) for me with the compiled version on peak, but when compiling sources on m68k, javac doesn't work, resulting in error. Why ? Who to compile correctly ? How can I help ? (can someone guide me on what is wrong and which sources need fixes) I've tried the 0.8.3 version, and the shared library seem working right ! - jfv
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NS 3.3 include the same tools as NS 1.0? Date: 1 Apr 1997 20:45:27 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5hrs57$65e@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <m3d8sf1jk9.fsf@lonestar.texas.com> troch@lonestar.texas.com (Rod Troch) wrote: > Hello, > > Does NS 3.3 come with WriteNow and ScorePlayer, as were supplied > with NS 1.0? It looks like my 3.3 build is not complete if they > are still included. If not, I am glad I have a complete backup > of the old 1.0 before the HD finally bit the dust. WriteNow is no longer included (as of about NS-3.0). At first they did include a WriteNow Reader application, but later on that was also dropped. ScorePlayer is part of the MusicKit, which I think is still supported by CCRMA (or some collection of initials like that). It would not surprise me if the music kit was only supported for black hardware, though. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniCD 0.6 released Date: 7 Apr 1997 08:02:53 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5ia9nd$df$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> The year-long 0.5 beta period for OmniCD has been completed. Thanks to everyone for making this a very successful beta test. OmniCD now enters 0.6 beta; there is no word on how long this beta phase will last... (Version 1.0 will be the first non-beta version. Well, hopefully.) For more info or to download, see http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniCD/ (You can download directly from ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/OmniCD.0.6.NIHS.b.tar.gz) Please report bugs or send requests to omnicd@omnigroup.com. Changes: - Works on at least some ATAPI drives, though not quite optimally (most device info is not read, and manual opens won't work the first time). Should be quite acceptable for the average user, however. - Very different UI borrowing heavily from the 3.x NEXTIME. (Includes a 2-bit gray look which looks more like a standard NeXTstep app.) - App icon control panel may be disabled: dwrite OmniCD UseControlIcon NO - Remembers volume settings between sessions. - Can read CD digital audio from Plextor CDROM drives (NeXT hardware only*). - Will attempt to read CD digital audio from Sony/Matshita/Apple and Plextor CDROM drives on non-NeXT hardware even though it will frequently (always?) fail (used to refuse to try on other architectures)*. - Advanced users can edit the deviceInfo.dict file inside the app wrapper to add support for reading CD digital audio from additional CDROM drives. The format and data are fairly self-explanatory; email me if you have questions. Also, if you have success extending the number of supported CDROM drives, please let me know and send me the appropriate entry. This will not work for all drive types; some require extra support and must therefore be dealt with internally via a special subclass rather than by an entry in deviceInfo.dict. *These may work on non-Adaptec 2940 or BusLogic SCSI cards, but I am unable to test them. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who can test CDDA extraction with other configurations. (Sorry, fast-forward/fast-reverse are still unavailable.) -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: harts@knoware.nl (Paul Harts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: fliterServicer starts up via Librarian Date: 7 Apr 1997 10:53:42 GMT Organization: Knoware Internet Message-ID: <5iajnm$9q3@news.knoware.nl> Hi , Every time I start the Digital Librarian to search for a word, the Fliterservicer kicks in. It starts to convert plans I have made in TaskMaster. This is very time consuming and therefore higly annoying. Is there a way to avoid this eg. to block the FilsterServicer in the Digital Librarian? Thanks in advance, Paul. -- ==================================================== | harts@knoware.nl | ' What's a FAQ?' | | the Netherlands | probably is one | | NeXTmail Welcomed! | | ====================================================
From: kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Bash for Openstep? Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:20:51 GMT Organization: University of Stirling Message-ID: <970407112051.5124AAFCq.kjt@copper> References: <5i0nlq$sd8@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII My recollection of a few years back is that the GNU configure script coped quite happily with NEXTSTEP. So it should go quite smoothly for you. Ken Turner <kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk>
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 5 Apr 1997 18:47:38 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5i66oa$ii4$3@darla.visi.com> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5g1lvt$3se$1@darla.visi.com> <5i5v2t$nti@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> Jean-Francois Veillette <jfv@hasc.com> wrote: > Me (David Young <dwy@ace.net>) wrote > in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on 10 Mar 1997 19:04:29 GMT: > > I've been sidetracked, but I was playing with the m68k JIT and moving > > it to NS. If anyone knows a really sharp reference on inlining > > assembly with gcc, let me know. :) > do you have a working version ? Yes and no. The i386 version I use has working pseudo-dynamic library support via Mach rld functions. The m68k version has this too, but something else seems broken: picasso [19]> uname -a NEXTSTEP picasso 0 3 NeXT_TurboCube unknown picasso [20]> kaffe -version Kaffe Virtual Machine Copyright (c) 1997 T. J. Wilkinson & Associates, London, UK. Engine: Interpreter Version: 0.82 picasso [17]> javac -verbose *.java ./kaffe.def:279: failed assertion `0' /usr/local/bin/javac: 8045 abort - core dumped doh! > the i386 version is working OK (javac is working) for me with the compiled > version on peak, but when compiling sources on m68k, javac doesn't work, > resulting in error. Is it the same error as above? > Why ? Wish I knew. > Who to compile correctly ? Version 0.8.3 claims to have working shared libraries on NEXTSTEP, but from what I've seen, this isn't the case. It does? Maybe I'll take another look.. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PAP Compatibility Date: 5 Apr 1997 16:38:24 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5i5v60$18p@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5i27la$s72$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> hamel@messiaen.ubc.ca (Keith Hamel) wrote: > The University Computer Service has altered its PPP link so that it will > support PAP (Password Authentication Protocol). I have been using > GateKeeper to connect via modem (using ppp 2.2 and the appropriate > scripts). These no longer works with PAP. Is there a program that > supports PAP that I can use instead of GateKeeper? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've been using ppp2.2 and GateKeeper for a PAP connection without any problems for a long time. Following are my config files: ### .../XXX.Gate/options 57600 name MY_USERNAME remotename CODENAME_FOR_PROVIDER ### /etc/ppp/pap-secrets MY_USER_NAME CODENAME_FOR_PROVIDER MY_PASSWORD (You may choose CODENAME_FOR_PROVIDER freely) Hope this helps Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Can somebody explain Lighthouse stealth on their apps? Message-ID: <E89nMp.CA@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 11:52:01 GMT Sya I am interested in Concurrence. Now, it seems, as far as NEXTSTEP apps, Lighthouse has them, but doesn't do anything with them. Can someone explain what is going on here? Because their web site is only about Javaplan. -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt."
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can somebody explain Lighthouse stealth on their apps? Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 07:42:53 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-0704970742540001@172.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> References: <E89nMp.CA@AWT.NL> In article <E89nMp.CA@AWT.NL>, G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) wrote: > Sya I am interested in Concurrence. Now, it seems, as far as NEXTSTEP apps, > Lighthouse has them, but doesn't do anything with them. > > Can someone explain what is going on here? Because their web site is only > about Javaplan. > SUN makes Java. Lighthouse Design makes Javaplan. SUN ownes Lighthouse Design. But you can still order the software. I'm not sure if they still ship the software, as I have not received my order yet, but they will take the order. :-) The right number to call to avoid all the bullshit is 1-800-715-5390. Mitch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? References: <5hu25h$h3t$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5hv8v8$kvi$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <3346bae4.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 5 Apr 97 20:49:40 GMT leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) wrote: >In article <5hu25h$h3t$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Malcolm Crawford ><Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk> writes: >>In <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" wrote: >>> Hi, I am curious on how to CD-ROM burn some NeXT media, and am >wondering >>> if in the software that RockRidge Extensions are Necessary in addition >>> to ISO 9660? Take the NEXTSTEP 3.3 disc, what exactly is required of >>> the burning software to do this successfully. A Mac solution would be >>> prefered... > >Yes, burn with Rockridge extensions and things will come out fine. Use >mkisofs to create an ISO image file, and then burn that from your Mac. >I've done it with both Windoze and Mac CD-R burners without problems. Leigh, What is and where can you find mkisofs? And how does your Mac see the image? I'm curious about this process because I'd like to do this from Win95. What is needed. Thanks, Darren
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 7 Apr 1997 07:28:42 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <5ia7na$115@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5g1lvt$3se$1@darla.visi.com> <5i5v2t$nti@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> <5i66oa$ii4$3@darla.visi.com> David Young wrote: >Version 0.8.3 claims to have working shared libraries on NEXTSTEP, but >from what I've seen, this isn't the case. Shared lib support in 0.8.3 still has a bug: It works for very simple programs, but as soon as a library is tried to be loaded twice (and that happens for nearly program), kaffe will fail. Tim has a fix for this, and that will be corrected in the next release. Nevertheless, something else has got broken from 0.8.2 to 0.8.3. Many programs hang (including javac), and that seems to happen for i386 as well as m68k, and for jit as well as interp. I have no clue what has changed since 0.8.2, but _this_ makes 0.8.3 unusable with NEXTSTEP. Oh yes, the hang appears at select(). Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | | flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | | PGP Key fingerprint = 23 8F B3 38 A3 39 A6 01 5B 99 91 D6 F2 AC CD C7 |
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can somebody explain Lighthouse stealth on their apps? Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 05:50:29 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970407054718.9766A-100000@kira> References: <E89nMp.CA@AWT.NL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Gerben Wierda <G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl> In-Reply-To: <E89nMp.CA@AWT.NL> My best guess is that they do not care about the NeXTStep apps all that much, as they are now somewhat "competition" for OpenStep/Solaris (I dunno, it's my best guess). However, Andre Lalonde <tralala@Mlink.NET> does have the ability to sell you Lighthouse's NeXTStep app licenses (commercial or academic), and I believe he will soon have web pages about the apps (since finding them on www.lighthouse.com is damnear impossible). TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Subject: Q:Hang while looking up connection after fork (PDO 4.1/Solaris and EOF 2.0) Message-ID: <E8A1Dx.on@oic.de> Sender: news@oic.de Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 16:49:09 GMT Hi, I found this in the release notes of PDO 4.1/Solaris: ----- Reference: 68675 Problem: Hang while looking up connection after fork Description: If you have a DO client which tries to look up a connection using NSConnection's connectionWithRegisteredName:host:, then forks a process, and then either exits or tries to look up the connection again, the client will hang. If the fork is omitted, the client won't hang. Workaround: None. ----- Exactly this is now my problem, but I need a workaround. Is this bug fixed in PDO 4.2? I try to fork a process with the NSTask class (but it is the same when I use simply fork() and execv()) and every time the DO client will hang, when I remove all the DO stuff from my process the the fork works. It it the same when a DO server try to fork a DO client. It is no possible to use threads instead of own processes for my project. I need really a workaround for this problem or I can't go on with the project. Is there someone who knows a solution for this problem? Thank you in advance. Juergen Moellenhoff
From: "Georg Tuparev" <gtupar@ctp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RCS for NS -- recommendations Date: 7 Apr 1997 17:33:29 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5ibb59$497@concorde.ctp.com> References: <5i8so1$egb4@ddfo3.technet.net> In article <5i8so1$egb4@ddfo3.technet.net> Constantin Szallies <szallies@energotec.de> writes: > thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM (Thomas Funke) wrote: > You can only merge changes in text files. No way to merge tiffs or NIB files. This is not very true! Tiff was never a problem (you should tell CVS that tiff is a binary file though). For nibs it work if you are using NFS without any problems (well, you have to massage a bit the CVS configuration -- but this is kind of trivial). If you are using CVS in Client/Server mode, you have to use an old Pallet for IB (I'm going to fix it and submit the OpenStep version -- if someone didn't already done that job). It is also not a big fuzz... > Right now we use CVS over an ISDN connection and this causes some performance > problems. Maybe it's not NFS but some other part like the router.. > I know that CVS has a client/server mode, but with this mode, it's not possible > to handle NIB files. I'm also using CVS over ISDN. The performance problem is due to strange CVS algorithm (for details see the discussions on the info-cvs mailing list). You can improve somehow the performance if you first make cvs up and afterwards cvs ci or cvs add ... Hope this helps have fun -- georg -- -- ------- /\/\ Georg Tuparev <georg_tuparev@ctp.com> / /_ \ Cambridge Technology Partners \ / / Apollo House, Apollolaan 15 \/\/ 1077 AB Amsterdam, The Netherlands Tel: +31(20)575-0492 Fax: +31(20)575-0500 WWW: http://www.ctp.com
From: gjvo@xs4all.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sysadmin messages on shell login (not /etc/motd!) Date: 7 Apr 1997 18:56:32 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <5ibg10$ckf$1@news1.xs4all.nl> References: <199704051550.KAA07868@kira.peak.org> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> wrote: >"1 new message, read? [Y/n]" >Does anyone know of a NeXTstep program which can do this? /usr/ucb/msgs It's not nextsteP, it's plain old unox... -- Geert Jan van Oldenborgh work: oldenbor@knmi.nl else: gjvo@xs4all.nl web: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gjvo
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 14:33:36 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970405143034.4757B-100000@kira> References: <5hu25h$h3t$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5hv8v8$kvi$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> <3346bae4.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> In-Reply-To: <3346bae4.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> > What is and where can you find mkisofs? I can answer the 'where' question: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/disk/mkisofs.1.0.5.I.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/disk/mkisofs.1.0.5.NI.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/disk/mkisofs.1.0.5.README ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/disk/mkisofs.1.0.5.src.tar.gz If you ever want to search the PEAK archive for something, you can do so by sending me email with the SUBJECT search-peak string for example search-peak mkisofs For more information, send me an email message with the SUBJECT send-help TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Submissions Coordinator for PEAK Personal NeXT Page: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ PEAK NeXT FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ PEAK Web Access: http://www.peak.org/next/
From: Lusty Wench <lusty@lusty.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sysadmin messages on shell login (not /etc/motd!) Date: 7 Apr 1997 12:03:34 -0700 Organization: What's that? Sender: lusty@idiom.com Message-ID: <5ibge6$ddj@idiom.com> References: <199704051550.KAA07868@kira.peak.org> In article <199704051550.KAA07868@kira.peak.org>, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > >Greetings > > I have seen systems where the sysadmin could put messages >and when people logged in they would see: > >"1 new message, read? [Y/n]" > >and there could be a whole host of messages -- but once you read >them it was recorded (in ~/.msgrc ??) so you did not see the old >messages after you had already seen them once -- which is what is >different than /etc/motd. > >Does anyone know of a NeXTstep program which can do this? man msgs Lusty
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: 2 Question Message-ID: <E86KpB.3uo@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <334456C2.38F4@kuodesign.com> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 19:55:59 GMT In article <334456C2.38F4@kuodesign.com> Sam <sam@kuodesign.com> writes: > I am a Mac user and I'm very excited about the Apple/Next merger. I just > can't wait for Rhapsody to come out. I want to get my hands on > Nextstep/Openstep right now to get a feel for it--see how it ticks.... > You're welcome! > 1) I'm considering buying a used Next station (because it looks so cool) > or buy some PC (gasp!) to run the NS/OS OS. Since I'm a newbie to the > Next world (Although I do have the complete set of NextWorld magazine, > btw) Can anyone help me out with thoughts? > My choice would be a TurboColor. It is way cool and still rather useful if you're just a casual user, like me. Aktually, I'm writing this sitting in front of one. Dealing with the idiosyncrasies of the PC world is only worth if you want to become a serious programmer. A fast Pentium machine can't be spared if it comes to count the run time of a compilation task. In this case, consider my advice and stay off of all EIDE disk technology. They may run fine on Windooze but a real OS won't tolerate the CPU load those buggers generate. > 2) A real stupid one. Since Nextstep runs on 040 chips, can't we run NS > on a Mac Quadra? Stop laughing, I was just wondering. :-) > SROTFL -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Faxing ? Message-ID: <E86L94.3vE@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5i2fjg$41@hagen.amg.de> Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 20:07:52 GMT In article <5i2fjg$41@hagen.amg.de> m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) writes: > Hi there again, > > I got a problem with my modem used as a fax: > > I have got a 'Dr. Neuhaus Cybermod 28800' installed as a HSD > FaxModem in the PrinterManager. > > When I want to send a fax, the modem dials the phone-number, I > hear that the other fax is responding (you know these strange > sounds...;-)), but it does not send anything, I think, because > the LED's for sending or receiving to not flash, only the LED > for connection and on-line is flashed out. > > What am I doing wrong ?? > Your fault is in thinking that there might still exist some modems that run with NeXT supplied FAX drivers. There just junk and you coud as well delete them without feeling the difference. There are two sets of driver software I know of. NXFax by Black&White is the most well supported commercial product (used to be at US$ 135.-). And then there is Jolly's (aka Patric Stein) PD am driver. Both can be found on Peanuts and Peak. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Respecting Transparency Date: 6 Apr 1997 02:29:37 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970406022900.VAA17393@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5i4k24$69o@news1-alterdial.uu.net> It's my understanding that Virtuos simply doesn't do this--and that this was one of the prime criticisms levied on it when it was released. It can fake transparency for vector objects, but as far as I know, that's it. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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From: Alexandre Gonthier <gonthier@terreactive.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WebObjects developers wanted Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 16:37:39 +0000 Organization: terreActive LLC Message-ID: <334922D2.4568@terreactive.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, I am looking for freelancers potentially interested in helping us out with developing some webobjects-based sites. I am based in the San Francisco Bay area, with business relationships in the US, France and Switzerland. If you're interested, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thanks a lot, Alex Gonthier Vice President terreActive LLC
From: jburne@sprynet.com (John Burnette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can somebody explain Lighthouse stealth on their apps? Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 19:39:35 -0500 Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <jburne-0704971939350001@ad66-003.compuserve.com> References: <E89nMp.CA@AWT.NL> <mitchell.allen-0704970742540001@172.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> In article <mitchell.allen-0704970742540001@172.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net>, mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: > In article <E89nMp.CA@AWT.NL>, G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) wrote: > > > Sya I am interested in Concurrence. Now, it seems, as far as NEXTSTEP apps, > > Lighthouse has them, but doesn't do anything with them. > > > > Can someone explain what is going on here? Because their web site is only > > about Javaplan. > > > > SUN makes Java. > Lighthouse Design makes Javaplan. > SUN ownes Lighthouse Design. > Sun also sells a NeXTStep implemenation for SPARC. Try to find it on their web page.... -- John Burnette jburne@sprynet.com "Isn't comp.os.ms-windows an oxymoron?"
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <7486859698032@digifix.com> Date: 6 Apr 1997 05:00:24 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <28108860302827@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NS 3.3 include the same tools as NS 1.0? Date: 8 Apr 1997 05:35:05 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5icle9$bfi@news4.digex.net> References: <m3d8sf1jk9.fsf@lonestar.texas.com> <5hrs57$65e@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > ScorePlayer is part of the MusicKit, which I think is still > supported by CCRMA (or some collection of initials like that). > It would not surprise me if the music kit was only supported for > black hardware, though. It's supported for white hardware as well... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: "Greg Shaw" <gshaw@zeta.org.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Serial port problem Date: 5 Apr 1997 06:07:47 GMT Organization: Decisionware Message-ID: <01bc4188$09141500$f04f6fcb@decisionware> References: <5htpgo$d86@hagen.amg.de> Martin Mocker <m_mocker@amg.de.> wrote in article <5htpgo$d86@hagen.amg.de>... > Hi NextFolks, > > I've got another problem with OPENSTEP/INTEL: > > When I boot up my machine with -v OPENSTEP tells me, that the > ISASerialPortDriver is installed for COM1 and for COM2. > But when I want to use tip to get on /dev/cub or /dev/cua (the same with > cufa, cufb) I get the message /dev/cux (where x is a, b, fa, fb): no such > device. > What am I doing wrong ? > > Thanks > Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de) > Martin, This is a guess and you will probably get a more thorough answer from the group at large but NeXT changed the design of the Serial port driver. There are 2 components: the ISASerialPortDriver and Terminal Driver. The ISASerialPortDriver has a separate driver loaded for EACH port. This means that there is a separate process looking after serial mouse and one looking after your fax line. This is a great improvement as I can remember crashing my system by moving the mouse too fast when there was a fax on the line. The TerminalServerDriver uses these serial ports to provide terminal services on the port. This is where your /dev/cufb and /dev/cufa devices are created. So you can have serial ports without terminal services (ie. mouse). You must setup them explicitly. Configure.app will want you to add the components individually and will make very few assumptions about what to add in this area. Hope this helps, Greg Shaw.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Date: 6 Apr 1997 12:32:46 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@nicecuppa.ohm.york.ac.uk Message-ID: <5i855e$nau$1@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <3346bae4.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> writes: > What is and where can you find mkisofs? And how does your Mac see the image? > I'm curious about this process because I'd like to do this from Win95. What > is needed. mkisofs - it takes a set of directories and packages them up into a big file which is the image that will need to be burned onto the CD. So you need a spare 700 meg of drive space for the file. Also, if you are running under NextStep and trying to write the image to a DOS partition the mkisofs doesn't work directly. I use the line: mkisofs -l -R $* | /bin/cat > iso.raw which does work. The reboot under win95 or win3.11 to blow the image. The only software I've found which is comapitble with mkisofs images in Win On CD Togo. I don't know what this is like for anything else, but for burning images it works a treat. I keep a small (25MB) DOS/Win3.11 partition on my machine for booting just to run this. The win95 version also works, though the GUI is a bit more of a pain in the arse to drive. -bat. PS: if you want a copy of mkisofs then theres a copy in pub/pete on maekong.ohm.york.ac.uk - it's compiled for black & white under 3.3
From: Constantin Szallies <szallies@energotec.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RCS for NS -- recommendations Date: 8 Apr 1997 08:49:27 GMT Organization: Technet GmbH Message-ID: <5id0qn$cdf2@ddfo3.technet.net> References: <5i8so1$egb4@ddfo3.technet.net> <5ibb59$497@concorde.ctp.com> "Georg Tuparev" <gtupar@ctp.com> wrote: >In article <5i8so1$egb4@ddfo3.technet.net> Constantin Szallies ><szallies@energotec.de> writes: >> thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM (Thomas Funke) wrote: > >> You can only merge changes in text files. No way to merge tiffs or NIB files. > >This is not very true! > >Tiff was never a problem (you should tell CVS that tiff is a binary file though). >For nibs it work if you are using NFS without any problems (well, you have to >massage a bit the CVS configuration -- but this is kind of trivial). If you are >using CVS in Client/Server mode, you have to use an old Pallet for IB (I'm going to >fix it and submit the OpenStep version -- if someone didn't already done that job). >It is also not a big fuzz... I don't get it. How do you merge NIB files? Even if you place NIB files in CVS as directories and add the CVS pallet. The data.nib file is binary encoded. How do you merge this? And how do you merge tiff files? >> Right now we use CVS over an ISDN connection and this causes some performance >> problems. Maybe it's not NFS but some other part like the router.. > >> I know that CVS has a client/server mode, but with this mode, it's not possible >> to handle NIB files. > >I'm also using CVS over ISDN. The performance problem is due to strange CVS >algorithm (for details see the discussions on the info-cvs mailing list). You can >improve somehow the performance if you first make cvs up and afterwards cvs ci or >cvs add ... > >Hope this helps Thanx for the information. As far as I understand, you use the client/server configuration + non wrapped nib files + CVS pallet. I observed that using client/server + wrapped nib files doesn't work. Can anyone confirm this and/or knows a work-a-round / patch? Greetings -- # Constantin Szallies, Energotec GmbH # szallies@energotec.de # 49211-9144018
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Faxing ? Date: 6 Apr 1997 12:38:12 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5i85fk$6e1$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5i2fjg$41@hagen.amg.de> m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) wrote: >I have got a 'Dr. Neuhaus Cybermod 28800' installed as a HSD FaxModem in the >PrinterManager. > >When I want to send a fax, the modem dials the phone-number, I hear that the >other fax is responding (you know these strange sounds...;-)), but it does >not send anything, I think, because the LED's for sending or receiving to not >flash, only the LED for connection and on-line is flashed out. The included fax drivers are for some antique modems which you could never get in Europe. They simply don't work with actual modems. You need an external app for sending and recieving faxes. There are several solutions: - NXFAX is a commercial product which supports a bunch of modems and sending/receiving of faxes. There is a demo version on the net (e.g. on http://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/Communication). - OlafAM is a sendfax/receivefax/getty/answer machine and shareware. You can find it at http://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/apps/OlafAM.1.1. NIHS.b.tar.gz - JollysFax is a sendfax-only program (shareware, too; http://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/fax/JollysClass2_Fax.0.7 0.NIH.b.tar.gz or .../JollysClass2.0_Fax.1.00PR2.NIH.b.tar.gz). If you combine it with mgetty (ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/networking/communication/modem/mgetty/), you have a cheap sendfax/receivefax/getty solution (I don't know, if the answering machine part of mgetty runs on Next). You can also use the sendfax part of mgetty together with Ghostscript which is a free solution. - Mix (http://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/Communication) is a commercial product for computer integrated telephony for the i56 DSP which needs additional hardware. It is surely possible that there a several more solutions... Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cancel Control: cancel <5i68v9$7q$6@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> Date: 5 Apr 1997 19:28:22 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5i694m$7q$7@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> cancel
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Drag and Drop Animation Available Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 15:19:03 -0400 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <334A9A27.50CC@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Hello: I thought some of you might be interested in seeing first hand how drag and drop works between an OPENSTEP application (Create.app) and a Windows Application (Photoshop). To download the 500K AVI animation file point your web to: http://aquarius.arch.buffalo.edu/openstep.html If anyone can convert his AVI file to MPEG and/or QuickTime, please do so and send me the resulting file to post on the web. Thanks. Send me e-mail if you like it :-) -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: see@address.in.signature (Martiin-Gilles Lavoie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] NS 3.3 nerworking Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 15:25:38 -0500 Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <see-0804971525380001@204.191.6.58> (with appologies for cross-posting) I've recently aquired a NeXT Station Color for the sake of getting up to speed with Rhapsody programming. All is going well for now, but I'm having some difficulties finding resources to get my NeXT networked with my Mac, and to the internet (lack of knowlege). I have a PowerMac phisically connected to my NeXT using RJ-45 cabling, but I'd like to know what software/configuration I need to get to transfer files off this small net. The Mac is setup up with TCP/IP. Is ftp the only possible mean of communication between these two machines? Also, I'd like to connect my NeXT onto the internet vial PPP dial-up connections. What software/setup do I need for this? Any reply CC-ed to my email would be appreciated (local news server sometimes misses articles). MGL -- Martin-Gilles Lavoie | "No! Try not. Do! or do not mouser@zercom.net | There is no try." www.zercom.net/~mouser/ | --Yoda on error handling
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] NS 3.3 networking Date: 8 Apr 1997 20:38:22 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5ieabu$l5v$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> References: <see-0804971525380001@204.191.6.58> see@address.in.signature (Martiin-Gilles Lavoie) wrote: > I have a PowerMac phisically connected to my NeXT using RJ-45 cabling, but > I'd like to know what software/configuration I need to get to transfer > files off this small net. The Mac is setup up with TCP/IP. Is ftp the > only possible mean of communication between these two machines? Either this, or see http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html for a free Ethertalk Phase II client & server package for NeXT. A new version without the need of editing scripts (all 'normal' administrative work is done by GUI) is soon to be released. > Also, I'd like to connect my NeXT onto the internet vial PPP dial-up > connections. What software/setup do I need for this? The ppp package as it is available on the archives, see next-ftp.peak.org or peanuts.leo.org. A direct link is ftp://peanuts.leo.org/next/Communication/programs/ppp_2_2.0.4.6.NIHS.b.tar.gz --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] NS 3.3 nerworking Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 15:09:44 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970408150026.8107D-100000@kira> References: <see-0804971525380001@204.191.6.58> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: mouser@zercom.net In-Reply-To: <see-0804971525380001@204.191.6.58> On Tue, 8 Apr 1997, Martiin-Gilles Lavoie wrote: > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc, comp.sys.next.software > Subject: [Q] NS 3.3 nerworking > (with appologies for cross-posting) apology accepted, but I will tease you for your "nerworking" typo then ;-) www.stepwise.com shows why xposts to csn.misc are wrong.... and if you *must* xpost to the other groups try to use a "Followps-To: line. There, I'll get on with the answer... > I've recently aquired a NeXT Station Color for the sake of getting up to > speed with Rhapsody programming. All is going well for now, but I'm > having some difficulties finding resources to get my NeXT networked with > my Mac, and to the internet (lack of knowlege). I'd point you to my web page http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ and then go to 'other sites' and checkout the information there. Under there you will find information about PPP and CAPer which I think you will find answer a lot of questions. > I have a PowerMac phisically connected to my NeXT using RJ-45 cabling, but > I'd like to know what software/configuration I need to get to transfer > files off this small net. The Mac is setup up with TCP/IP. Is ftp the > only possible mean of communication between these two machines? No, there is a CAP program to connect them > Also, I'd like to connect my NeXT onto the internet vial PPP dial-up > connections. What software/setup do I need for this? There is freeware PPP available attached to my WWW page. > Any reply CC-ed to my email would be appreciated (local news server > sometimes misses articles). It would be recommended that you use a valid emai address when asking for CC's as there are people who will not take the time to do so when you make them manually copy and paste your address in order to help you answer your question. If you can't find the resources you need, drop me an email.... TjL ps -- nice Yoda quote in your .sig ;-) -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me
From: dblakele@mercury.interpath.net (Dean D. Blakeley - Personal Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java for NeXTStep/OPENSTEP Date: 9 Apr 1997 00:41:43 GMT Organization: Interpath Message-ID: <5ieok7$e7u@redstone.interpath.net> References: <33425225.633B@earthlink.net> In article <33425225.633B@earthlink.net>, Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> wrote: > Does such a thing exist and if so does OmniWeb support it? Thanks in >advance. My question is about the whereabouts of OmniWeb itself. I checked the files at ftp-peak.org and they were all gone. Peace -- | Dean D Blakeley, MD \\// This ain't no party, this ain't no disco | | Jones St Family Medicine _\/_ This ain't no fooling around - D. Byrne | | 618 West Jones Street \\// Office Tel # (919) 755-1888 | | Raleigh NC 27603 \/ #include <disclaim.whsi.h> |
From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Checksum V.2.00 on OS4.0? Date: 9 Apr 1997 01:09:08 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ieq7k$4kf2@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5hucol$mh7@news.tamu.edu> Cc: schaub@tamu.edu,andrew@stone.com In <5hucol$mh7@news.tamu.edu> Hanspeter Schaub wrote: [snip] > The version of Checksum received is v.2.00. With it I cannot reconcile any > accounts that are carrying a negative balance. Whenever I enter a negative > number in the balance text field it defaults back to whatever figure was > there to begin with. The difference field below always indicates zero for > this case. Is anybody else experiencing the same problems? Yes [snip] > > Stone Design said they weren't able to recreate the bug on their side and > pushed the problem off as being "probably caused by using OS4.0." This is surpising; I sent them email months ago outlining this exact problem, and that was definately before I had 4.x installed. They said they'd look into it. This bug's been there for a long time, since before Stone Design acquired the software. I use it exclusively on an Intel box. [snip] > > If you have experience similar problems with the new version of Checksum > running under OS4.0 (or NS3.x), please let me know. I appreciate any > pointers or helpful hints to get this running right. Seems the only way is to convince Stone to fix it. > > blue skies, > > Hanspeter Schaub > > Aside from the above, my other big gripe with checksum (which I also reported to Stone) is it's limited find panel capabilities. It doesn't allow the search for arbitrary text strings within descriptions, memos, etc - for text to be "found", you have to match from the left-most column. Otherwise, I like Checksum. However, I've been waiting a long time for fixes to these problems! -- Michael Giddings giddings_remove_to_reply_@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://smithlab.chem.wisc.edu/PersonalPages/giddings/giddings.html
From: "Kurt E. Huhner" <khuhner@communique.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java for NeXTStep/OPENSTEP Date: Tue, 08 Apr 1997 20:40:32 -0500 Organization: NCS, Inc; http://www.ncs-ssc.com Message-ID: <334AF390.3648B8C6@communique.net> References: <33425225.633B@earthlink.net> <5ieok7$e7u@redstone.interpath.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F6C9DEDC58EEFB9391D4D6D3" To: "Dean D. Blakeley - Personal Account" <dblakele@mercury.interpath.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F6C9DEDC58EEFB9391D4D6D3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------A81F51A21BAE3FFC7374C949" --------------A81F51A21BAE3FFC7374C949 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dean D. Blakeley - Personal Account wrote: > My question is about the whereabouts of OmniWeb itself. I checked > the > files at ftp-peak.org and they were all gone. Try this location. I have check and it is there: Directory of /pub/software/OmniWeb --------------A81F51A21BAE3FFC7374C949 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><BODY> Dean D. Blakeley - Personal Account wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>My question is about the whereabouts of OmniWeb itself. I checked the <BR>files at ftp-peak.org and they were all gone. <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Try this location. I have check and it is there: <BR> <BR> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/OmniWeb/">Directory of /pub/software/OmniWeb</A> </BODY> </HTML> --------------A81F51A21BAE3FFC7374C949-- --------------F6C9DEDC58EEFB9391D4D6D3 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Kurt E. Huhner Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Kurt E. Huhner n:Huhner;Kurt E. org:NCS, Inc; http://www.ncs-ssc.com adr:Bldg. 9110;;MSAAP;Stennis Space Center;MS;39529; email;internet:khuhner@communique.net title:Software Consultant tel;work:(601)689-8100 tel;fax:(601)689-8130 x-mozilla-cpt:;0 x-mozilla-html:TRUE end:vcard --------------F6C9DEDC58EEFB9391D4D6D3--
From: fedor@vnet.net (Adam Fedor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTMail doesn't use sendmail? Date: 9 Apr 1997 01:36:51 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. Message-ID: <5ierrj$p45$1@ralph.vnet.net> I set up the new version of sendmail (8.7.5) so that my e-mail address gets transmuted from adam@vnet.net to fedor@vnet.net. It seems to work fine if I use the command line mail program, but doesn't work if I use NeXTMail, even thought in the preferences, it lists /usr/lib/sendmail as the mailer. Any ideas why? (P.S. DON'T send replies to adam@vnet.net!) --- Adam Fedor. Digital Optics Co. | Those who can't do, simulate. fedor@doc.com | fedor@vnet.net (MIME, NeXT) |
From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: win95, NT, & OpenStep NT... Date: 9 Apr 1997 03:38:42 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Distribution: world Message-ID: <5if302$4kes@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5hvi3p$3qi@news3.digex.net> Cc: jkheit@cnj.digex.net In <5hvi3p$3qi@news3.digex.net> John Kheit wrote: [munch question about setting up windows system] I have all my windows stuff in a single FAT partition, which includes Win NT, Win 95, and Openstep/NT. This appears to work just fine. Windows resides in c:\windows, and windows NT resides in c:\winnt. The Windows NT boot manager allows booting either of these. This way, all other files, such as program files, can be shared hassle free. And I've had zero problems with long file naming even though it is a FAT system (miraculously, MS appears to have gotten name mangling to work correctly!) To my knowledge, OpenStep is not limited to NTFS - if it is, I guess I'm the exception to the rule . . . The trick to installing this way is, first install Win95 on the disk. Then, when you install WinNT, it will give you the option of using the existing partition and just adding NT (as opposed to erasing it). -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://smithlab.chem.wisc.edu/PersonalPages/giddings/giddings.html http://www.barbarian.com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java for NeXTStep/OPENSTEP Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 18:49:43 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970408184523.14641C-100000@kira> References: <33425225.633B@earthlink.net> <5ieok7$e7u@redstone.interpath.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Dean D. Blakeley - Personal Account" <dblakele@mercury.interpath.net> In-Reply-To: <5ieok7$e7u@redstone.interpath.net> > > My question is about the whereabouts of OmniWeb itself. I checked the > files at ftp-peak.org and they were all gone. ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.H.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.I.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.N.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.NIHS.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.S.tar.gz The latest version is always linked to ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/latest_versions/OmniWeb.tar.gz (checkout http://www.peak.org/next/latest_versions for a very cool interface (he said with a bias since he made the page)) Reminder: if you need to find an app and can't find it on PEAK, send me an email message with the SUBJECT search-peak OmniWeb (replace "OmniWeb" with whatever you want to search for, you can search for multiple items with the SUBJECT search-peak omniweb sendmail fiend or however many things you want to search for with a space between each word) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Submissions Coordinator for PEAK Personal NeXT Page: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ PEAK NeXT FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ PEAK Web Access: http://www.peak.org/next/
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] NS 3.3 nerworking Date: 9 Apr 1997 03:36:20 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970409032901.XAA07629@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <see-0804971525380001@204.191.6.58> There was a recent posting of a free software package to network NeXTs to Macs via AppleTalk emulation on the NeXT side of things... Here's the announcement message for it--best of luck! William [Sorry for the English x-posting to a german newsgroup, but maybe this is of some interest] Howdy! I am proud to annouce the public availability of the easy-install binary CAP (Columbia Appletalk Package) for NeXTStep 3.3/OpenStep 4.x on Intel processors. It contains everything to turn your NeXTStep system into a AppleShare (Appletalk native Phase II) file and print server. Additional it enables you to mount remote AppleShare volumes on your NeXTStep machine and to print to remote LaserWriters. It contains an administration program called 'CAPer.app' that does most of the installation work and provides you with an interface to control the CAP processes quite painlessly. The installation was tested by various beta testers and for most of them it seems to work. Some parts still requires some sysadmin knowledge but exporting filesystems, mounting filesystems and providing printer spool services should be quite easy to work with. The distribution contains the full source code for BPF0.25b3 and CAPpl198, so you can rebuild the major parts of the package if you want to include some special features in CAP. At the moment you can fetch the package from http://www.this.net/~frank/CAPer.app.V1.I.b.tar.gz http://www.this.net/~frank/README.rtfd.tar.gz You may want to fetch the readme file before downloading the full 2.5 MByte package. It contains information if CAPer will work on your system, see below. ***** On what systems does the package work: It was tested on NeXTSTEP 3.3/Intel and OpenStep 4.0/Intel where it seems to work quite well. It does not work on NeXTSTEP 3.2/Intel due to some missing features in the kernel. ***** Anything to consider before installing: Appletalk Phase II needs multicasting capabilities. Some ethernet drivers don't support this, so read the CAPer documentation if your driver is supported. The kernel server (BPF) needs a lot of kernel memory, you may want to give your system more buffers. Again look in the CAPer documentation on how to do this. It is not tested in all environments, so bugs may still lurk inside. As usually you are working at your own risk. ***** What's the price of this package Zero. Null. Nichts. Nada. CAPer/CAPpl198/BPF/afpmount are distributed free of charge for any purpose abeit various copyrights apply. Look in the CAPer documentation for more information. You may not sell it, but you can give it away. ***** Shall I put it on the ftp archives Please do not at the moment. As soon I received reports that the package really works in most environments I will do this myself. Conside this release a public beta :-) ***** Will it run on m68k, Sparc, HPPA m68k - yes, definitely. sparc & hppa, most likely - we have to check if the kernel symbols support the BPF but otherwise I see no reason for problems. :-) Please provide feedback, thanks! -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy Path: lobby01.news.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!howland.er ols.net!news.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!bias.ipc.uni-tuebing en.de!news From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Appletalk on NeXTStep/OpenStep is here Date: 22 Jan 1997 22:52:19 GMT Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC. Lines: 78 Message-ID: <5c65n3$fhk@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: miranda.burn.this.net X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.8.9 Beta(i) Xref: lobby01.news.aol.com comp.sys.next.software:20577 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:18439 de.comp.sys.next:9473
From: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Faxing ? Date: 9 Apr 1997 02:59:21 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5if0m9$f24$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5i2fjg$41@hagen.amg.de> <5i85fk$6e1$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> Cc: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam Do any of these fax drivers work on non-Class2 modems (e.g. Diamond SupraExpress 33.6)? I know that NXFax works only with Class 2 modems, which are ~$200+. In <5i85fk$6e1$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> Michael Pieper wrote: > There are several solutions: > - NXFAX is a commercial product which supports a bunch of modems and > sending/receiving of faxes. There is a demo version on the net (e.g. on > http://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/Communication). > - OlafAM is a sendfax/receivefax/getty/answer machine and shareware. You can > find it at > http://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/apps/OlafAM.1.1. > NIHS.b.tar.gz > - JollysFax is a sendfax-only program (shareware, too; > http://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/fax/JollysClass2_Fax.0.7 > 0.NIH.b.tar.gz or .../JollysClass2.0_Fax.1.00PR2.NIH.b.tar.gz). If you > combine it with mgetty > (ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/networking/communication/modem/mgetty/), you have > a cheap sendfax/receivefax/getty solution (I don't know, if the answering > machine part of mgetty runs on Next). You can also use the sendfax part of > mgetty together with Ghostscript which is a free solution. > - Mix > (http://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/Communication) is > a commercial product for computer integrated telephony for the i56 DSP which > needs additional hardware. > -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenberATmhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> <Substitute @ for "AT"; done to stop junk e-mail> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Frank Burgbacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is Lighthouse dead? Keywords: Lighthouse, OmniWeb Distribution: world Message-ID: <334b3a33.0@news.uni-konstanz.de> Date: 9 Apr 97 06:41:55 GMT Organization: University of Constance, Germany Can someone from Lighthouse hear me? For weeks now we are trying to contact Lighthouse by e-mail, but only received automated messages that we should contact one of several e-mail adresses, most of them only gave us the same message or just do not work. So if any human from Lighthouse is reading this, please give us a hint which PERSON to contact. The problem is the following: We purchased 4 licenses of OmniWeb last autumn. This year february all licences execept the usual one-user license owned by Lighthouse expired. What's going on? On the CD there is no information or any documentation at all. Please contact frank.burgbacher@uni-konstanz.de or better (I will not be here for three weeks) markus.reinbold@uni-konstanz.de Thank you Frank
From: curt@doumi.ucr.edu (Curt Burgess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: enTar (where is developer?) Date: 9 Apr 1997 07:50:46 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <5ifhom$fma@rumors.ucr.edu> I have an old version (ver 1.4) of enTar, but only a demo. I tried emailing the developer (impact@impact.shaman.com) but that email gets returned (thus making it difficult to buy a password!). A web search doesn't find a source. Anyone know if that software is still available? What about other archive tools - any suggestions? thanks! Curt -- Dr. Curt Burgess, Cognitive Psychology Program Department of Psychology, Univ Calif-Riverside, Riverside, CA 92521-0426 URL: http://locutus.ucr.edu/ Internet: curt@cassandra.ucr.edu <<< NeXT mail ok MaBellNet: (909) 787-2392 FAX: (909) 787-3985
From: jbf_see_sig@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Does NS 3.3 include the same tools as NS 1.0? Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 10:26:17 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_sig-ya023580000704971026170001@news.tiac.net> References: <m3d8sf1jk9.fsf@lonestar.texas.com> <5hrs57$65e@usenet.rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5hrs57$65e@usenet.rpi.edu>, Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > WriteNow is no longer included (as of about NS-3.0). At first > they did include a WriteNow Reader application, but later on > that was also dropped. My OpenWrite opens WriteNow stuff (though I keep an old binary around just in case). > ScorePlayer is part of the MusicKit, which I think is still supported > by CCRMA (or some collection of initials like that). It would not > surprise me if the music kit was only supported for black hardware, > though. Still alive and well, and 4.X is said to run on some Intel machines. I believe a good deal of the 1.0 supplied software broke on 2.0; hence NeXT provided free updates - for example, Lisp, Mathematica and Sybase. Barney (delete that _see_sig to email me)
From: (Robert Worne) rworne@primenet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 9 Apr 1997 04:08:00 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Message-ID: <5iftag$q7e$1@nnrp01.primenet.com> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5g1lvt$3se$1@darla.visi.com> <5i5v2t$nti@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> <5i66oa$ii4$3@darla.visi.com> <5ia7na$115@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) wrote: >David Young wrote: >>Version 0.8.3 claims to have working shared libraries on NEXTSTEP, but >>from what I've seen, this isn't the case. > >Shared lib support in 0.8.3 still has a bug: It works for very simple >programs, but as soon as a library is tried to be loaded twice (and that >happens for nearly program), kaffe will fail. Tim has a fix for this, >and that will be corrected in the next release. > >Nevertheless, something else has got broken from 0.8.2 to 0.8.3. Many >programs hang (including javac), and that seems to happen for i386 as well >as m68k, and for jit as well as interp. I have no clue what has changed >since 0.8.2, but _this_ makes 0.8.3 unusable with NEXTSTEP. Oh yes, the >hang appears at select(). I am suprised that you all have actually gotten kaffe to actually compile correctly. While I have had success in getting it to compile (for Mach m68k) I am having endless troubles getting the javac portion to work. I am currently stuck at 0.7.0, the last version I was able to compile cleanly. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: Remo Valerioti <rvalerio@cscs.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for Flight Simulator Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 15:35:05 +0200 Organization: Centro Svizzero di Calcolo Scientifico Message-ID: <334B9B09.4108@cscs.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi: I am looking for a flight simulator running on NeXTStep. Anyone know if this kind of software is available? If yes could you tell me where I can get it. Thanks Remo.
From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 68k NeXT and Speedometer Utility Date: 9 Apr 1997 14:02:47 GMT Organization: C-Com/Phoenix Data Net (281) 486-8337/ http://www.phoenix.net Message-ID: <5ig7i7$hsm$1@gryphon.phoenix.net> The title says it all - does a Speedometer or Clockometer for NeXT exist? I checked with Newer Tech and they don't have one. -- Charles D Phillips <mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: <http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh> (This page also links to a Totally Unofficial Panorama Page)
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 09:21:53 -0600 From: grimgant@kodak.com Subject: Need Nextstep 3.3 or lower for my Next Station Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,dfw.forsale Message-ID: <860595570.18168@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service I just bought a used Next w/o OS . I would appreciate a cheap copy of NS to run, failing which I would appreciate the loan of the software to try out on my machine . -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep Mail.app Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 10:50:11 -0400 Organization: University At Buffalo Message-ID: <334BACA3.42F8@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Hello: If I can run Mail.app on Sun's OPENSTEP for Solaris, that means it has been ported to OPENSTEP, right? then why didn't NeXT re-compile it for Windows NT? If they couldn't do it, that casts a doubt about their claim that you can port applications with a simple re-compile. -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 10:02:22 -0600 From: grimgant@kodak.com Subject: Newbie to NEXT needs guidance..... Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <860597804.19661@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Just recieved a system(mono turbo) from Mooseman. VERY pleased with packaging etc:- The system is w/o a HDD , luckily I had an IBM (ps/2) scsi HDD that I hooked up and the ROM monitor says SCSI & Extended tests OK no errors however since I have no bootable images (either on floppy or HDD) I am stuck. When (just for kicks ) I say 'b sd' it says 'sc: not complete' ?? My question is - From the above do you think the scsi HDD is recognized by the system ?? What do I do next ? (currently have a sexy Black beast on the desk but cant do a thing :) -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTMail doesn't use sendmail? Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 07:51:07 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970409074552.12441B-100000@kira> References: <5ierrj$p45$1@ralph.vnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Adam Fedor <fedor@vnet.net> In-Reply-To: <5ierrj$p45$1@ralph.vnet.net> > I set up the new version of sendmail (8.7.5) so that my e-mail address gets > transmuted from adam@vnet.net to fedor@vnet.net. It seems to work fine if I > use the command line mail program, but doesn't work if I use NeXTMail, even > thought in the preferences, it lists /usr/lib/sendmail as the mailer. Any > ideas why? Note: sendmail 8.7.5 is NOT new, and is in fact a bad idea. sendmail.8.8.5 is available at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/sendmail.8.8.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/sendmail.8.8.5.README I think that the problem you are facing is mentioned in http://brise.ere.umontreal.ca/~magnan/Sendmail (a guide to installing sendmail for NS) and what Mail.app does not use is the database (user.db). You can use one of the Expert Headers in Mail.app 3.3 if you have that. If you don't, drop me a note and I can help you add headers to outgoing messages from Mail.app, including a new 'From:' line. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 68k NeXT and Speedometer Utility Date: 9 Apr 1997 16:46:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <5igh5a$4p2$3@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <5ig7i7$hsm$1@gryphon.phoenix.net> phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) wrote: >The title says it all - does a Speedometer or Clockometer for NeXT exist? >I checked with Newer Tech and they don't have one. > >-- >Charles D Phillips ><mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> > >Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: ><http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh> >(This page also links to a Totally Unofficial Panorama Page) > > Please don't cross post between c.s.n.* groups. Most of us read them all anyway so there isn't any reason to post to multiple groups. --Ryan PS. FYI, A lot of people will not respond to a cross posted message.
From: gossett@arwen.bethel.edu (Eric Gossett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: enTar (where is developer?) Date: 9 Apr 1997 16:53:14 GMT Organization: Bethel College, St.Paul, MN Message-ID: <5ighhq$6qp$1@mercury.acs.bethel.edu> References: <5ifhom$fma@rumors.ucr.edu> Cc: curt@doumi.ucr.edu I have an old version (ver 1.4) of enTar,... I tried emailing the developer... Curt Try looking at http://members.ping.at/stefan/index.html e-mail: _stefan@ping.at
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for Flight Simulator Date: 9 Apr 1997 17:12:00 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5igil0$1ja@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <334B9B09.4108@cscs.ch> Cc: rvalerio@cscs.ch In <334B9B09.4108@cscs.ch> Remo Valerioti wrote: > Hi: > > I am looking for a flight simulator running on NeXTStep. > > Anyone know if this kind of software is available? > If yes could you tell me where I can get it. > > Thanks > Remo. > there was a demo app with the extended release 2.x (040 only) it might be of use? I don't know I don't fly (much). -rick
From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep Mail.app Date: 9 Apr 1997 17:09:43 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <5igign$rfm@news-central.tiac.net> References: <334BACA3.42F8@arch.buffalo.edu> In-Reply-To: <334BACA3.42F8@arch.buffalo.edu> On 04/09/97, jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu wrote: >Hello: > >If I can run Mail.app on >Sun's OPENSTEP for Solaris, that means it >has been ported to OPENSTEP, right? I think Mail.app on OPENSTEP for Solaris is not a port but completely different product and it relies heavily on Solaris underneath OpenStep, however I could be mistaken... >then why didn't NeXT re-compile it for Windows NT? If my guess is right the above answer that question. >If they couldn't do it, that casts a doubt about their claim that >you can port applications with a simple re-compile. I don't think they claim that one could recompile *any* application. There always will be applications that use "tricks of the trade", so ... Just my 2 cents. Aleksey
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is Lighthouse dead? Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 17:25:53 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-0904971725540001@71.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> References: <334b3a33.0@news.uni-konstanz.de> In article <334b3a33.0@news.uni-konstanz.de>, frank@spock.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Frank Burgbacher) wrote: > Can someone from Lighthouse hear me? > > For weeks now we are trying to contact Lighthouse by e-mail, but only received > automated messages that we should contact one of several e-mail adresses, most > of them only gave us the same message or just do not work. So if any human from > Lighthouse is reading this, please give us a hint which PERSON to contact. > > The problem is the following: > We purchased 4 licenses of OmniWeb last autumn. This year february all licences > execept the usual one-user license owned by Lighthouse expired. What's going > on? On the CD there is no information or any documentation at all. > > Please contact > frank.burgbacher@uni-konstanz.de > or better (I will not be here for three weeks) > markus.reinbold@uni-konstanz.de > > Thank you > Frank The number for Lighthouse is 415-524-3201 or you can e-mail them from the www.lighthouse.com websight under the products heading. Mitch
From: Darryl Anton <lcanton@ricochet.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone has or kno where to get Virtuso Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 19:18:16 -0400 Organization: Legendary Concepts Message-ID: <334C23B8.5134@ricochet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit looking for Nextsep app called Virtuoso
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: RCS for NS -- recommendations Message-ID: <1997Apr8.185033.675@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: szallies@energotec.de Organization: Disorganization References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970402211213.21175A-100000@kira> <5hvml5$7tj1@ddfo3.technet.net> <1997Apr6.105407.528@gamelan.shnet.org> <5i8so1$egb4@ddfo3.technet.net> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 18:50:33 GMT In <5i8so1$egb4@ddfo3.technet.net> Constantin Szallies wrote: > >It is actually no problem to use CVS with a large group of developers. CVS > >merges changes from other developers into your local source, which works well > >and is easy to understand. > > You can only merge changes in text files. No way to merge tiffs or NIB files. If two developers are modifying the same tiff, you have a problem in project managing, not a problem of CVS :-) Anyway, you can use a policy of exclusive locking in CVS too, even if it is not the standard case. And you can prohibit merging of binary files too. If you need better tools than CVS, have a look at ClearCase or Perforce. Both not available on NeXT but on most other platforms.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP: OPENSTEP/NT Fonts Date: 28 Mar 1997 01:27:27 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970328012701.UAA18907@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <333AA761.6D5D@arch.buffalo.edu> The problem here is that fonts under NeXTStep/Unix are stored in .PFA format--an ASCII based standard, while NT cannot use Adobe Type 1 fonts directly yet (no Adobe Type Manager), although it will translate a .PFB into TrueType. You'll need software to move from .PFA to .PFB--I believe the T1FONTUTILS will allow this--I also have the C code for a program called T1FONT (by Ken Borgendale) which should do this. You'll also need a program which can create a .PFM I'd guess, though it may be that NT could use a .AFM/.INF pair, but I doubt that. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sharing disks: Nextstep MacOS AppleShare NFS? Date: 28 Mar 1997 00:30:20 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5hf3es$fh8$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5hesgh$ldf@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Cc: Îfey@biotech.washington.edu In <5hesgh$ldf@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Curran W. Fey wrote: > I need to share disks between Nextstep and MacOS systems. I know > there used to be AppleShare software for Nextstep, is it still > available? If so from whom? > > Thanks > You can find my Appletalk page here: http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: "Ryan" <rward@netcom.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next 3.3 Driver disk image needed Date: 10 Apr 1997 03:21:48 GMT Organization: Netcom Canada Message-ID: <01bc455e$9ae25da0$4f05230a@c3p0.corp.netcom.ca> Does anyone have a driver disk image for a EIDE CD-ROM Next 3.3 install? CD rom is Pionneer 10.5 Speed
From: scribex@cedep.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: enTar (where is developer?) Date: 10 Apr 1997 04:31:49 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5ihqfl$p8t@supernews.login.net> References: <5ifhom$fma@rumors.ucr.edu> In-Reply-To: <5ifhom$fma@rumors.ucr.edu> The current version of enTar is v.3.1. Price: US$145 (Academic: US125) To purchase a license, you can contact: Andre Lalonde <scribex@cedep.net> Cheers, -André =================== On 04/08/97, Curt Burgess wrote: > > I have an old version (ver 1.4) of enTar, but only a demo. > I tried emailing the developer (impact@impact.shaman.com) but > that email gets returned (thus making it difficult to buy a > password!). A web search doesn't find a source. > Anyone know if that software is still available? What about other > archive tools - any suggestions? > thanks! > Curt > > > -- > Dr. Curt Burgess, Cognitive Psychology Program > Department of Psychology, Univ Calif-Riverside, > Riverside, CA 92521-0426 URL: http://locutus.ucr.edu/ > Internet: curt@cassandra.ucr.edu <<< NeXT mail ok > MaBellNet: (909) 787-2392 FAX: (909) 787-3985 > >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software From: "Eric P Baenen" <ebaenen@webconstructions.com> Subject: Need Pages 1.5.1 disk #2 Message-ID: <01bc4550$5ae57a60$f9b5f4ce@baenen1> Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 18:37:15 -0800 Organization: Dayton Internet Advertising (http://www.webconstructions.com/) Hi, Hopefully someone out there can help. I recently sold my copy of Pages 1.5.1 to another NeXTfan but disk #2 seems to be corrupted. He gets "directory checksum error 5550 !=44608" during install of the second disk. If you have a copy of Pages 1.5.1 for black hardware on floppy would you be willing to make a copy of disk #2 and send it to him? I'll pay for the disk and postage. Please contact me if you can help. Thanks, Eric Baenen ebaenen@webconstructions.com PS Does anyone know if there is a copy of Pages anywhere on the FTP archives? The registration number ought to work with any version of Pages 1.x.
From: Eren_Kotan@next.com (Eren Kotan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep Mail.app Date: 10 Apr 1997 09:27:10 GMT Organization: NeXT/Apple European Professional Services Message-ID: <5iibpe$5nj@news.next.com> References: <334BACA3.42F8@arch.buffalo.edu> <5igign$rfm@news-central.tiac.net> In <5igign$rfm@news-central.tiac.net> Aleksey Sudakov wrote: > On 04/09/97, jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu wrote: > >If I can run Mail.app on > >Sun's OPENSTEP for Solaris, that means it > >has been ported to OPENSTEP, right? > > I think Mail.app on OPENSTEP for Solaris is not a port but completely > different product and it relies heavily on Solaris underneath > OpenStep, however I could be mistaken... > > >then why didn't NeXT re-compile it for Windows NT? > > If my guess is right the above answer that question. > > >If they couldn't do it, that casts a doubt about their claim that > >you can port applications with a simple re-compile. > > I don't think they claim that one could recompile *any* application. > There always will be applications that use "tricks of the trade", so Mail.app on OPENSTEP/Mach is not an OPENSTEP compliant app! It is a "traditional" NEXTSTEP app. This is why you couldn't simply recompile it for OPENSTEP/NT. Mail.app on OPENSTEP Solaris is a different program altogether. NeXT doesn't supply an e-mail client with NT, but this was probably because there are already several e-mail solutions on NT that people have invested in, and are already using - for marketing reasons, rather than technical reasons. In general, you can simply recompile OPENSTEP compliant apps on OPENSTEP/NT, and in 99% of the time, they will just work, unless they make use of specific features of the underlying OS by bypassing the OPENSTEP frameworks and using native system calls. Regards, Eren -- Eren Kotan - NeXT European Professional Services - Technical Support Team NeXT/Apple, United Kingdom - http://www.next.com/ A NeXTman and Apple guy, the best friend money can buy. The Force is with you, always...except Christmas, Easter and bank holidays
From: Eren_Kotan@next.com (Eren Kotan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next 3.3 Driver disk image needed Date: 10 Apr 1997 09:08:02 GMT Organization: NeXT/Apple Message-ID: <5iiali$5nj@news.next.com> References: <01bc455e$9ae25da0$4f05230a@c3p0.corp.netcom.ca> Cc: rward@netcom.ca In <01bc455e$9ae25da0$4f05230a@c3p0.corp.netcom.ca> "Ryan" wrote: > Does anyone have a driver disk image for a EIDE CD-ROM Next 3.3 install? CD > rom is Pionneer 10.5 Speed The disk images you want are on our web site at http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/ Search for NeXTanswer 1921. Please be aware that using very fast ATAPI CD ROM drives might cause install to fail, but this is somewhat hardware dependent, so try your luck and see what happens. Regards, Eren -- Eren Kotan - NeXT European Professional Services - Technical Support Team NeXT/Apple, United Kingdom - http://www.next.com/ A NeXTman and Apple guy, the best friend money can buy. The Force is with you, always...except Christmas, Easter and bank holidays
From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP!!! HELP!!! HELP!!! Date: 10 Apr 1997 17:28:32 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ij800$kv1@news.acns.nwu.edu> I have a very serious problem that I need help with. I have a Jaz disk that had files moved from it onto another disk (using the next window GUI move command). I want to recover the data fromm the original Jaz disk. Unfortunately the disk the data was moved onto was destroyed. The Jaz disk is intact and hasn't had anything done to it since the data was moved off (no read or writes). Is there any way this can be done? Can I do it myself or is there a service that I can send the disk to to have it recovered? If a service is the way to go, are there any recommendations? PLEASE HELP!! Of course I need the data recovered yesterday! Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
From: Eren_Kotan@next.com (Eren Kotan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep --> OpenStep Date: 10 Apr 1997 09:13:14 GMT Organization: NeXT/Apple European Professional Services Message-ID: <5iiava$5nj@news.next.com> References: <859736771.955.0@scmolec.demon.co.uk> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970330102533.3327A-100000@kira> <5htl19$cqa$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> In <5htl19$cqa$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Malcolm Crawford wrote: > In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970330102533.3327A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > 2. Is there a performance hit for the upgrade > > Yes, as would be expected. There was a big one going from 2.x to 3.x, and > > going to 4.x is another one. > Actually it dosn't seem tooo bad -- I'm now running it on a Turbo with 32MB > RAM... The performance hit will be more noticable if you are running a mixture of 3.3 apps (Mail, Edit, etc.) and OPENSTEP apps (PB, IB, etc.) at the same time, as in this case both old 3.x shlibs and newer OPENSTEP shlibs will be loaded into memory. Rule of thumb is to put as much memory as you can into your computer, as this will always be beneficial to performance and RAM is relatively cheap these days, anyway. Regards, Eren -- Eren Kotan - NeXT European Professional Services - Technical Support Team NeXT/Apple, United Kingdom - http://www.next.com/ A NeXTman and Apple guy, the best friend money can buy. The Force is with you, always...except Christmas, Easter and bank holidays
From: "Eric Flotron" <admin@maritime.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.software,comp.sys.amiga.software.pirate,comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.next.software,de.admin.news.software,de.comm.internet.software,de.comm.software.crosspoint,de.comm.software.pmail,de.comm.software.ums,it.news.software Subject: cmsg cancel <01bc4383$590974e0$8bb906c2@nb-ibm> Control: cancel <01bc4383$590974e0$8bb906c2@nb-ibm> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 00:48:58 +0100 Organization: Bulkconsult SA Message-ID: <cancel.01bc4383$590974e0$8bb906c2@nb-ibm> References: <01bc4383$590974e0$8bb906c2@nb-ibm> EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. The Breidbart index was 23. See report "Bulkconsult" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: MEGA$NETS.
From: Siu Hung <hhchiang@sfu.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: mp2 for NeXTstep 3.2?????? Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 16:17:40 -0700 Organization: Simon Fraser University Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970410161606.11152A-100000@fraser> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all: I've just dled maplay 1.2 for NeXTstep 3.2 and tried it out..however..the snd quality is okay...the music kind of stop and go frequently...dunno if it's the problem of the CPU or the problem of the software itself. So, can you suggest any mp2 player for NeXTstep? Also, where to dl a good midi player for NeXT? Thanx ------------------------------------------------------------------------ '::. ... Name : Siu Hung :: ::....... Phone #: hhchiang@sfu.ca :: .. ''''''''' ''' Habit : Multitasking, ::. :: '::. '::'''::' Scanning (28800 dpi) .:: :: ::: ''''''' Occupation: CMPT student ''' :: ....:''::::. ':::: ..:'' ''' ::: ::: ':::' + / \ / \ / + \ / + \ : http://www.in2nett.com/daniel | | or | | : http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2079 ----- ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Ian_Stewart@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: More CDR Stuff Date: 8 Apr 1997 22:07:47 GMT Organization: VeriFone ICD Distribution: world Message-ID: <5iefjj$jfb$1@pornstorm.eit.com> OK, I need to get my Rockridge CD-ROM image to a windows 95 machine to burn on my Ricoh. What works on the Windoze platform to do this. I am willing to use anything on NEXTSTEP, like mkisofs if that will do it. Detailed advice needed and appreciated. Or is there a way to do this all in Windows with a NFS mount and CD Creator or something? Ian H. Stewart --- NYRO Technix, Inc. 707-429-1410 voice 707-429-3088 fax NYRO Technix, Inc. is proud to announce, NYRO-SPACE(tm), "The Auto-Scrolling Virtual Window Manager!"(tm) for Windows 95 and NT 4.0. Download your FREE trial version today. http://www.nyro.com/
From: Ian_Stewart@nyro.com (Ian H. Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Ricoh CDR - How to make NS CD-ROMS Date: 11 Apr 1997 05:07:34 GMT Organization: VeriFone ICD Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ikgum$he4$1@pornstorm.eit.com> Okay, so far everyone agrees that mkisofs is the way to create the image file. Good. Now how do I get this "image" file BURNED on my Ricoh RO-1420C? If I can't get this image on a CD-ROM, this whole process does me know good. Can CD-Creator (now adaptecs) read a mkisofs image and put it on a blank CD? If so I will stop bugging everyone ;^) Thanks for your help... I think Windows is making me crazy. I want my AppleStep (or whatever). Ian
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for NeXTStep VRML viewer Date: 11 Apr 1997 09:47:39 GMT Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <5il1br$8vk$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> References: <5ijfgn$1t8$1@mainsrv.main.nc.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <5ijfgn$1t8$1@mainsrv.main.nc.us>, clafey@buncombe.main.nc.us (Cicada La Fey) writes: > Are there any VRML viewers out there that run on NeXTStep? > The Geometry Center had an free available 3D Viewer, which also supported NeXT. (As it seems that they have done a lot of interesting things with NeXT. They also have to change that maybe to demand of their sponsors, who knows... :-( ) <url: http://www.geom.umn.edu/ > <URL: http://www.geom.umn.edu/software/geomview/ > They created the object-orientated 3D language OOGL and an VRML -> OOGL translator for WebOOGL is available. (I not sure it already for VRML 2.0 ) Bernhard Reiter
From: clafey@buncombe.main.nc.us (Cicada La Fey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for NeXTStep VRML viewer Date: 10 Apr 1997 19:36:55 GMT Organization: Mountain Area Information Network Message-ID: <5ijfgn$1t8$1@mainsrv.main.nc.us> Are there any VRML viewers out there that run on NeXTStep? email: clafey@main.nc.us Thanks, Cicada
From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Edit and manpages Date: 11 Apr 1997 15:17:19 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <5ilklv$o79@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> Is there an easy trick to getting Edit.app to inherit an environment that contains a MANPATH environment variable? I have manpages installed in /usr/local/man and other places, and Edit's CMD-M manual page feature doesn't search them (I guess because the Workspace's environment hasn't read my .login or .cshrc). It does work if I run Edit from a terminal, in which case it inherits a good MANPATH variable. Any ideas? --Chris Chris Saldanha | The day after tomorrow is the third Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | day of the rest of your life. csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh | -- BSD Fortune
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: More CDR Stuff Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 07:43:47 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970411074319.24640B-100000@kira> References: <5iefjj$jfb$1@pornstorm.eit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Ian H. Stewart" <Ian_Stewart@nyro.com> In-Reply-To: <5iefjj$jfb$1@pornstorm.eit.com> Have you looked at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/disk/mkisofs.1.0.5.I.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/disk/mkisofs.1.0.5.NI.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/disk/mkisofs.1.0.5.README ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/disk/mkisofs.1.0.5.src.tar.gz TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Submissions Coordinator for PEAK Personal NeXT Page: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ PEAK NeXT FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ PEAK Web Access: http://www.peak.org/next/
From: Fauzia Burke <fburke@fsb.superlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BOOK: Objects on the Web Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:58:27 -0500 Organization: SuperNet Inc. (908) 828-8988 Sender: (2+V-=C0M#%H @nb-dialup-185.superlink.net Message-ID: <334E6DB3.667@fsb.superlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's a new book from McGraw-Hill: Objects on the Web. You can find the TOC and an excerpt at: http://www.smartbooks.com/bw704objweb.htm Hope this is useful. fburke@fsb.superlink.net
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Intuitiv? Date: 11 Apr 1997 19:30:43 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5im3h3$4ed$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Does anyone know if the Intuitiv 3D app is still available, and if so from where? Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Edit and manpages Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:19:06 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970411111059.29798A-100000@kira> References: <5ilklv$o79@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Chris Saldanha <csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca> In-Reply-To: <5ilklv$o79@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> Thanks to the Big Green CD set (the Library CD, one of the 3) I was able to find this reference in a matter of seconds. From: chris@opensource.com Subject: Re: getting cmd-M in Edit to search /usr/local/man (SOLUTION) Date: 28 Jun 1995 16:14:44 GMT Organization: OpenSource Inc. Message-ID: <3srv5k$ogo@trane.opensource.com> References: <3sf9t8$5nh@trane.opensource.com> Reply-To: chris@opensource.com First the oringinal problem: chris@opensource.com writes > > > Does anyone know the trick to having cmd-M work > for man pages in the /usr/loca/man location. I > know if the MANPATH env var is set /before Edit > launches this works. Is there some default, or > something I can do from workspace to make this > happen when Edit is launched from my doc or from > the workspace? > And the Winner is!!!!: Gerhard Moeller who won with this reply: (paraphrased) Edit your /NextApps/Edit.app/English.lproj/UI.strings file. You need to change the line: "MAN_COMMAND" = "man %s | editFilter"; to "MAN_COMMAND" = "man -M /usr/local/man:/usr/man %s | editFilter"; An also ran is this response So set your MANPATH in your ~/.cshrc!
From: leo@BLaCKSMITH.com (Leo Turetsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: player for *.mp3 Date: 2 Apr 1997 20:06:59 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <5hue93$ev7$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <5hti3f$i2k$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Frank M. Siegert writes > Caveat: it works only on Intel hardware, How about Sparc? leo. +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Leo Turetsky | BLaCKSMITH, Inc. (NeXT/MIME) | | leo@blacksmith.com | OPENSTEP Systems Administrator | +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Nah-ne kah-sah tahng-tah? <esp> Leo, your mom called. | +-------------------------------------------------------+
From: "Eric R. Balch" <ebalch@wrightstrat.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need Pages 1.5.1 disk #2 Date: 11 Apr 1997 20:53:55 GMT Organization: Wright Strategies Message-ID: <01bc46b9$f6dcf0a0$0f93d4cc@grayslab.wrightstrat> References: <01bc4550$5ae57a60$f9b5f4ce@baenen1> Cache-Post-Path: optional.cts.com!unknown@204.212.147.15 Hi, I was a Beta Tester for Pages (when they existed here in San Diego) I have a fairly late version of Pages... Not sure which one??? Pls eMail me at: erbalch@adnc.com I will check and it I have a compatable version I wil dup the disk and mail OR eMail you or whoever a copy... By the way, was that webPages by Pages? Or was that ver. 1.7??? Hope I can help! Eric R. Balch Application Engineer Wright Strategies, Inc. - Extending the Enterprise with FormLogic 2.5 http://www.wrightstrat.com --------------------------------- ebalch@wrightstrat.com erbalch@adnc.com (619)551-6808 X143 --------------------------------- Eric P Baenen <ebaenen@webconstructions.com> wrote in article <01bc4550$5ae57a60$f9b5f4ce@baenen1>... > > Hi, > > Hopefully someone out there can help. I recently sold my copy of Pages > 1.5.1 to another NeXTfan but disk #2 seems to be corrupted. > > He gets "directory checksum error 5550 !=44608" during install of the > second > disk. > > If you have a copy of Pages 1.5.1 for black hardware on floppy would you be > willing to make a copy of disk #2 and send it to him? I'll pay for the > disk and postage. > > Please contact me if you can help. > > Thanks, > > Eric Baenen > ebaenen@webconstructions.com > > PS Does anyone know if there is a copy of Pages anywhere on the FTP > archives? The registration number ought to work with any version of Pages > 1.x. > > > >
From: Siu Hung <hhchiang@sfu.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: midi for NeXT? Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:31:28 -0700 Organization: Simon Fraser University Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970411153101.2578A-100000@fraser> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all: Is there any midi player for NeXT 3.2? Where to dl? Thanx in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ '::. ... Name : Siu Hung :: ::....... Phone #: hhchiang@sfu.ca :: .. ''''''''' ''' Habit : Multitasking, ::. :: '::. '::'''::' Scanning (28800 dpi) .:: :: ::: ''''''' Occupation: CMPT student ''' :: ....:''::::. ':::: ..:'' ''' ::: ::: ':::' + / \ / \ / + \ / + \ : http://www.in2nett.com/daniel | | or | | : http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2079 ----- ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Intuitiv? Date: 12 Apr 1997 00:55:44 GMT Message-ID: <5immig$i1u@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5im3h3$4ed$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> > Does anyone know if the Intuitiv 3D app is still available, and if so from > where? Intuitive Systems, Inc. 599 North Mathilda Ave. Ste 19 Sunnyvale, CA 94086 tel : 408 245 8540 fax : 408 245 8541 claire@intuisys.com http://www.intuisys.com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: midi for NeXT? Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:46:02 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970411164300.7799B-100000@kira> References: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970411153101.2578A-100000@fraser> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Siu Hung <hhchiang@sfu.ca> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970411153101.2578A-100000@fraser> > Hi all: > Is there any midi player for NeXT 3.2? Where to dl? Thanx in > advance. a three line post and a 15 line .sig? You gotta be kidding. Use some courtesy, please. Checkout 'http://www.rcn.de/English/NeXT/MidiInterface.html' and see if that is any help. You might find others linked to my web page (http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/) but this was the only one that was immediately obvious. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Newbie to NEXT needs guidance..... Message-ID: <E8Iv5H.5Ex@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <860597804.19661@dejanews.com> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 11:12:53 GMT In article <860597804.19661@dejanews.com> grimgant@kodak.com writes: > Just recieved a system(mono turbo) from Mooseman. VERY pleased with > packaging etc:- > The system is w/o a HDD , luckily I had an IBM (ps/2) scsi HDD that I > hooked up and the ROM monitor says SCSI & Extended tests OK no errors > however since I have no bootable images (either on floppy or HDD) I am > stuck. > > When (just for kicks ) I say 'b sd' it says 'sc: not complete' ?? > > My question is - > From the above do you think the scsi HDD is recognized by the system ?? > > What do I do next ? (currently have a sexy Black beast on the desk but > cant do a thing :) > As far as I remember Moosman's postings tell the machines come with no media although you have the right to load and run NS 3.2. Or something the like. So from this statement it is clear that you either have to find a kind soul that puts NS 3.2 on the drive for you, or you need to purchase NEXTSTEP media and license seperately (try c.s.n.marketplace). A blank drive with no boot block on it always leaves the machine only limited choice to react :-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Can somebody explain Lighthouse stealth on their apps? Message-ID: <E8Iuqu.5E7@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <mitchell.allen-0704970742540001@172.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 11:04:06 GMT In article <mitchell.allen-0704970742540001@172.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net writes: > In article <E89nMp.CA@AWT.NL>, G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben > Wierda) wrote: > > > Sya I am interested in Concurrence. Now, it seems, as far as > > NEXTSTEP apps, Lighthouse has them, but doesn't do anything > > with them. > > > > Can someone explain what is going on here? Because their web > > site is only about Javaplan. > > > > SUN makes Java. Lighthouse Design makes Javaplan. SUN ownes > Lighthouse Design. > > But you can still order the software. I'm not sure if they still > ship the software, as I have not received my order yet, but they > will take the order. :-) > > The right number to call to avoid all the bullshit is 1-800-715-5390. > Very nice! It's just a shame that 1-800 numbers don't work outside the US! -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Edit and manpages Date: 12 Apr 1997 19:05:41 +0200 Organization: Warty Wolfs Message-ID: <9704112237.AA12855@basil.icce.rug.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.1mach v148) Content-Type: text/plain In article <5ilklv$o79@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>, csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) wrote: > Is there an easy trick to getting Edit.app to inherit an environment that > contains a MANPATH environment variable? > > I have manpages installed in /usr/local/man and other places, and Edit's > CMD-M manual page feature doesn't search them (I guess because the > Workspace's environment hasn't read my .login or .cshrc). It does work if > I run Edit from a terminal, in which case it inherits a good MANPATH > variable. You can patch the MAN_COMMAND definition in /NextApps/Edit.app/English.lproj/UI.strings to: "MAN_COMMAND" = "man -M \"$MANPATH:/usr/local/man:/usr/man\" %s | editFilter"; (and restart Edit.app). Hope this helps, Tom. -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "Any magic sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable __/ _/_/ from a perl script" -- Larry Wall, mangled
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: player for *.mp3 Date: 12 Apr 1997 17:04:44 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5iofbc$f1e$2@wwwproxy.seicom.net> References: <5hti3f$i2k$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5hue93$ev7$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> leo@BLaCKSMITH.com (Leo Turetsky) wrote: > Frank M. Siegert writes > > Caveat: it works only on Intel hardware, > How about Sparc? At the moment no (I have no SPARC to test). However If you can compile and test the player for me I will glady supply you with sources. -Frank --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: player for *.mp3 Date: 12 Apr 1997 14:47:46 -0400 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5iolci$rvr@sps1.phys.vt.edu> References: <5hti3f$i2k$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5hue93$ev7$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <5iofbc$f1e$2@wwwproxy.seicom.net> In article <5iofbc$f1e$2@wwwproxy.seicom.net>, frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: > leo@BLaCKSMITH.com (Leo Turetsky) wrote: > > Frank M. Siegert writes > > > Caveat: it works only on Intel hardware, > > How about Sparc? > At the moment no (I have no SPARC to test). However If you can compile and > test the player for me I will glady supply you with sources. I missed the original post. Where can I get the Intel version?
From: jmosher@goodguy.goodnet.com (Jessica Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help setting up ppp on top of coXist in 3.2 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 12 Apr 1997 19:56:16 GMT Organization: Goodnet Sender: jmosher@goodnet.com Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5iopd0$16uc$1@news.goodnet.com> Hi all, I have successfully installed NeXT-ppp 2.2 (will upgrade to 2.3 later) but the instructions for testing it through kermit are vague and I'm having no luck. I know my way around my NeXT, but have never configured ppp before. My modem is an Intel 144e 14.4 baud, FWIW. Does anyone have step-by-step instructions, including which IP addresses, etc. I need from my provider? Is there a FAQ? I only have a vauge understanding of ppp so would rather have overkill on details than otherwise. I'm hoping to start out by running ppp on top of coXist and X apps, and will try interfacing with OmniWeb, etc. later. I'm running 3.2 developer. Please send mail, and thanks in advance! -- Jessica L. Mosher jmosher@goodnet.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <28108860302827@digifix.com> Date: 13 Apr 1997 04:00:07 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <15479860904022@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: help setting up ppp on top of coXist in 3.2 Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 19:23:25 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970412190819.20437B-100000@kira> References: <5iopd0$16uc$1@news.goodnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Jessica Mosher <jmosher@goodguy.goodnet.com> In-Reply-To: <5iopd0$16uc$1@news.goodnet.com> I've helped a few people get this running. Hopefully I can do the same for you. Let me be sure I understand you: you are running NS 3.2 and want to setup the free PPP 2.2 for NS? (I don't think the CoXist stuff matters for this point). once you have kermit's "~/.kermrc" set up properly for your modem and serial port, add this: define ppp - !pppd < \v(line) > \v(line) defaultroute then you should be able to use kermit to dial to your ISP, manually enter the login information, and get the connection started (You'll know when you get a message "Starting PPP" or see a bunch of junk characters). Then do 'control' and ']' and then 'c' to get back to the kermit prompt and enter 'do ppp' and that should start pppd on your end. Because this will soon become a tedious process, you will no doubt want to set up a chat script, which is the hardest part, and once you figure it out you wonder why it was so hard. Basically you want to send a series of AT commands to the modem (however many are necessary to get the config you want, consult your manual) and then expect that they will all be answered by "OK", and then do a series of 'send/expect' strings based on the prompts you get from your ISP. For example, assume when you connect with kermit you see this: CONNECT login:<you enter your isp login name here> password:<you enter your isp password here> Starting PPP&*!&*&_*!&*$!(#!{}!(!^(^$(!)) You would want to "expect" "ogin:" and then send "mosher" (assuming that was your login) and then "expect" "word:" and send "mypassword" so it might look something like this: ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "ERROR" "" ATX3 OK ATQ0H0 OK AT&D2 OK ATW1 OK ATM0 OK ATDT5551212 "CONNECT" "" ogin: jmosher word: mypassword (note you will have to changet hose AT commands to suit your modem.) If there are spaces after the colons in "login:" or "pasword:" then put a space in your "expect" part of the above, such as "word: " mypassword Hope that helps get you started. BTW put those commands in a file called 'chatscript' and call it using '/usr/local/bin/pppd connect chat -v -f /path/to/chatscript' or something similar. drop me a line if you have more Qs TjL ps -- you should also sign up to the PPP mailing list -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me
From: joshspamlesswonder@macconnect.com (Josh Lewis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to read PDF files? Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 09:16:45 -0500 Organization: None Message-ID: <joshspamlesswonder-1204970916450001@accs-as35-dp08.nwrk.grid.net> References: <5hhhhv$sf8@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <19970329151901.KAA10709@ladder01.news.aol.com> In article <19970329151901.KAA10709@ladder01.news.aol.com>, willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) wrote: > Acrobat Reader won't work install under Executor because it expects to be > able to install/create/update the Adobe Type Manager init/extension. > > I believe one person was trying to get it running without ATM, but doubt > that would work. > > William > Maby I can help or maby I'm in over my head as a johney come lately. There are a few diffrent versions of acrobat reader 3.0 for the mac floating around, none of them clearly labeled as being any diffrent from one and other. Many installer packedges contain one or two versions. If you haven't gotten this setup yet, when you try to install acrobat choose custom install in the box and you may be able to not select ~ATM (the adobie type manager init). I know it's way different than executer but I'm running acrobat reader on a powermac right now with out having to put up with the demands of the ~ATM (1.4 meg of ram and slower screen display) I Hope this is usefull, -- "look what I can do with the TV" Remove the (spamless wonder) from my address to reply. __________________________________________________ Josh Lewis e-mail <josh@macconnect.com> \ / <http://www.macconnect.com/~josh/> _____\/_____ _ | --------- x| |o| || / /| x| |D--_ _ ||_/_____/_| | - \_______/ \__ |_____________| _______________________________\______/_____\_____
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wgilbert@uwaterloo.ca (Will Gilbert) Subject: SGML To RTF converter? Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner) Message-ID: <E8Kx1r.M80@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 13:49:03 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo When OmniWeb is working, it does an SGML To RTF conversion. Can we access that converter, or is it internal to OmniWeb? -- ************************************* Will Gilbert, wgilbert@uwaterloo.ca http://math.uwaterloo.ca/~wgilbert/
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 10:11:34 -0600 From: housemary@iquest.net Subject: Aptiva running NextStep Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <860943739.20821@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service I'm wondering if anybody knows about OPENSTEP/Mach com- patablity with the Mwave modem/ sound cards found in the IBM Aptivas. I want to do a dualboot system, but I can't be without a modem for Next. Thanks Nate -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for SafetyNet like app for Windows NT Date: 14 Apr 1997 01:38:37 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <5is1qt$rrc$1@dropit.pgh.net> I would post this to a Windows NT group but they wouldn't know what I am talking about. SafetyNet users will. Windows NT backup is crap by comparison. Is there anything out there like SafetyNet for Windows NT? ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: edit app and page breaks Date: 14 Apr 1997 01:36:49 GMT Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Message-ID: <5is1nh$csj@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> I am using edit.app in RTF mode and would like to force some page breaks so that my graphs do not split between pages. I searched the help files and can't find anything about this topic. Can anyone suggest what I should do? I suppose I could count lines :) Thanks, Dan -- --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 Physics Dept., University of Florida Bldg 104 Rm. 5 ---------------------------------------------------------
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Samba m68k binaries?! Date: 14 Apr 1997 05:31:17 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5isff5$kik$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Can anyone tell me where I can find binaries for Samaba for the m68k? My HD is not big enough for a Developer installation.. so a precompiled one would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Godwin
From: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Ralf Specht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: Tiff-Editor like IconBuilder Date: 14 Apr 1997 07:24:15 GMT Organization: debis Network Services GmbH Message-ID: <5ism2v$6uo@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Hi all, I'm looking for a good tiff editor (shareware or pd) like IconBuilder.app which offers better zooming and pixel maipulation (cloning would be nice). It should support different pencils with different widths, a rubber, ... Is there one out here on the net? Thanks... ...Ralf -- Ralf Specht Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm Department of Text Understanding Systems P.O. Box 23 60 89013 Ulm, Germany e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM phone: +49 731 505-2356 fax: +49 731 505-4113
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: mp2 for NeXTstep 3.2?????? Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:46:52 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E8MJA5.3B5@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970410161606.11152A-100000@fraser> In article <Pine.SGI.3.95.970410161606.11152A-100000@fraser> Siu Hung <hhchiang@sfu.ca> writes: > Hi all: > I've just dled maplay 1.2 for NeXTstep 3.2 and tried it > out..however..the snd quality is okay...the music kind of stop and go > frequently...dunno if it's the problem of the CPU or the problem of the > software itself. > So, can you suggest any mp2 player for NeXTstep? Also, where to dl > a good midi player for NeXT? > Thanx I did some of the work on the NeXT port of maplay, and at the time we found it to be slow on 68K machines, such that the sound breaks up. It was fine on Intel Machines (486/66 or better). We didn't have a sound card in our intel box, so we used the remote sound stream object. You can (on a quiet network) use the -H option to use the Black sound hardware from an Intel machine. For midi stuff, download the Music Kit. $an
From: tyf@.primenet.com (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniStill ever available? Date: 14 Apr 1997 06:24:20 GMT Organization: NSNet Internet Services Message-ID: <5isiik$f97$1@falcon.ns.net> Hi, Is OmniStill, supposedly a PS->PDF converter for NeXTSTEP, ever released? Omnigroup's page seemed to suggest that Lighthouse owned the program, but I have never seen it anywhere. Or is there any other program that can create PDF on NS? Thanks. -- ________________ Tin-Yau Fung, tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu NeXTmail is best!
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: edit app and page breaks Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 06:21:36 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970414062016.9014A-100000@kira> References: <5is1nh$csj@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Daniel D. Roscigno" <ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu> In-Reply-To: <5is1nh$csj@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> > I am using edit.app in RTF mode and would like to > force some page breaks so that my graphs do not > split between pages. I searched the help files > and can't find anything about this topic. Can > anyone suggest what I should do? I suppose I > could count lines :) I think that's all you can do... except of course the graphics will throw that off... Edit.app does not have the ability to tell you about page breaks. I'm not sure if CedarWord is any better, but you can try the demo: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/editors/CedarWord.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/editors/CedarWord.1.1.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/editors/CedarWord.1.1.README TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Submissions Coordinator for PEAK Personal NeXT Page: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ PEAK NeXT FTP: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/ PEAK Web Access: http://www.peak.org/next/
From: lfh@pilot.njin.net (Luis Hernandez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: POP Mail reader? Date: 14 Apr 1997 11:44:48 -0400 Organization: Rutgers University Message-ID: <5itjdg$lvq@pilot.njin.net> Hello, I'm interested in getting a NeXT this week or next and I was curious if NeXT's mail app is a POP mail reader. If not, does anyone know of a POP mail reader for NeXTStep (black)? Please reply to cjabido@npl.org since I don't know when this account will die! Thanks, Carl Jabido cjabido@npl.org
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniStill ever available? Date: 14 Apr 1997 15:20:33 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5iti01$p6q@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <5isiik$f97$1@falcon.ns.net> In article <5isiik$f97$1@falcon.ns.net> tyf@.primenet.com (Tin-Yau Fung) writes: [...] > Or is there any other program that can create PDF on NS? There's DigiScript from OneVision, which might be a bit oversized for you. It's a real killer DTP application (distilling PDF as a side effect). Ask info@onevision.de for more details and/or a demo license. -- David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Subject: What about Impact soft and SUPER DRAW? Message-ID: <E8Gw35.F1@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 09:37:53 GMT Hi, does anybody know whats going on with SUPER DRAW from impact software? Any try to contact via e-mail does not reach - Henry Hsu <hhsu@impact.com> - thanks for answer Manfred
From: deutsch@io.bota.uni-bonn.de (Andreas Deutsch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: animation of renderman Date: 14 Apr 1997 16:12:44 GMT Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <5itl1s$10dm@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Hi folks, is it possible to animate renderman? In particular, I'm looking for a possibilty to visualize sequences of *.rib files. Andreas Deutsch
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: POP Mail reader? Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:14:02 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970414101251.276H-100000@kira> References: <5itjdg$lvq@pilot.njin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: cjabido@npl.org In-Reply-To: <5itjdg$lvq@pilot.njin.net> > I'm interested in getting a NeXT this week or next and I was curious > if NeXT's mail app is a POP mail reader. If not, does anyone know of > a POP mail reader for NeXTStep (black)? ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/PopOver.v1.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/PopOver.v1.5.README This will download the mail to your machine from a pop server so you can read it. Has a nice GUI also. > Please reply to cjabido@npl.org since I don't know when this account > will die! That would have been a lot easier if you had set a 'reply-to' line TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "Give a man a piece of working code and you solve his problem. Teach a man to write code and you give him a lifetime of new problems" -- me
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From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: edit app and page breaks Date: 14 Apr 1997 22:38:26 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5iubl2$6fj@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5is1nh$csj@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970414062016.9014A-100000@kira> Cc: luomat@peak.org In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970414062016.9014A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > Daniel D. Roscigno wrote: > > I am using edit.app in RTF mode and would like to > > force some page breaks so that my graphs do not > > split between pages. I searched the help files > > and can't find anything about this topic. Can > > anyone suggest what I should do? I suppose I > > could count lines :) > > I think that's all you can do... except of course the graphics will throw > that off... > > Edit.app does not have the ability to tell you about page breaks. I'm not > sure if CedarWord is any better, but you can try the demo: > > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/editors/CedarWord.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/editors/CedarWord.1.1.NIHS.b.tar.gz > ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/demos/editors/CedarWord.1.1.README > > TjL Dan, CedarWord is terrific. Does that sort of thing very well. I just did a ~500 page report with it including lots of graphics and inserted page breaks a'plenty. Give it a try. -rick
From: Tommy Hwang <me@mysolution.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help!! Next server Date: Wed, 02 Apr 1997 03:08:00 -0500 Organization: Internet Solutions Incorporated of Fort Wayne, IN Message-ID: <334213E0.2981@mysolution.com> References: <5hfr1b$5ab$1@kelp.mbay.net> <E7x7wB.2KC@nidat.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Nitezki wrote: > > sites. Is there third party web servers? Will Unix based web > > servers run on Next? Multihoming? I have worked with NT, and > > I love my Mac. Since I will soon be adopting your OS, I figured > > this would be a better choice over NT. Any info that you can > > provide would be appreicated. The more the better. > > > Although the first Web software was developed on NEXTSTEP (at CERN) the > platform is rather scarce of recent implementations. One reason lies in > the fact that NEXTSTEP was conceived as client development platform and, > therefore, is not very well suited for the use as a server. > > The only Web server for NEXSTEP I know is apache. It is on the Net > (positively on Peanuts, and most likely Peak). I definitely agree that NeXT is not very well suited as a primary server, but a workstation, infact, as a workstation, I have not yet found a suitable replacement... (My NeXT Cube and Stations controls the rest of my network cheaply and efficiently). Apache works great on NeXT, the old CERN Httpd and there is another even older httpd software that Apache was originally derived can also be used on NeXT. I had CERN, but Apache is far better, IMHO, except for the web server logs. CERN httpd creates a log for each date and name it accordingly, but Apache does not.
From: chk@deimos.frii.com (Christian Kuhtz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: POV-Ray build -- what am I doing wrong? Date: 14 Apr 97 22:58:17 GMT Organization: Front Range Internet, Inc. Message-ID: <chk.861058697@deimos.frii.com> Hi everybody: No, I'm not asking on how to use it.. I'm trying to *build* it on NEXTSTEP/ m68k 3.3. With gcc 2.7.2.2, after the make newunix build runs through... all I get is: (root@continuum) /Playground/povray/povray3/source/unix $ ./povray Floating point exception No warnings, nothing during the build process... Thanks a bunch. I'd really like to avoid having to fire up gdb for this.. Cheers, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work) <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (home) Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ "Humbly speaking for myself only."
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From: "Christian Jensen" <chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS Versions Date: 15 Apr 1997 02:11:26 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <01bc4942$6bd32480$c9cc92cf@default> I am curious to know how many releases of NEXTSTEP exist. I am aware that version 3 had four (3.0, .1, .2, .3), and that OpenStep will shortly have three (4.0, .1, .2). How many releases of 1.x and 2.x were there? Also, were 1.x and 2.x distributed on OD or CD? Does anyone recall what demos were bundled with 1.x and/or 2.x? Thanks to all who answer. (BTW, if there is a web page that spells all this out, an URL would be appreciated!) **************************************************** Chris Jensen chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net
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From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Found Samba binaries! Date: 15 Apr 1997 03:55:10 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5iuu6u$i5b$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hello all, Just to answer my own post earlier.. I found pre compiled Samba binaries from Frank Siegerts' web page URL: http://www.this.net/~frank/download.html Besides Samba he also got some very nifty programs there! like CAP and an HP48 emulator! Thanks frank! Godwin
From: fdonzel@tin.it (C.E.D. F. DONZELLI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HW/SW Dealers & Manufacturers urgently wanted. Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 05:04:39 GMT Organization: Telecom Italia - Video On Line Message-ID: <5iv2ph$98s@everest.vol.it> * *************English version available upon request.****************** * INVITO A TUTTE LE AZIENDE INDUSTRIALI E COMMERCIALI OPERANTI NEL SETTORE DELL'HARDWARE & SOFTWARE. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- C.E.D. - CENTRO ELABORAZIONE DATI F. DONZELLI - Comiso, RG, ITALY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- La ns. Azienda, operante nel campo dei servizi telematici, ha deciso di collegare in Videoconferenza via-Internet ISDN la sua Sede principale e altre cinque sedi periferiche in Italia e all'estero. Nella sede principale, vorremmo installare n. 3 terminali che, pilotati da un'unica unita' centrale, possano intrattenere tre sessioni di videoconferenza con le sedi periferiche in modo assolutamente indipendente ciascuno dagli altri. In sintesi, tre persone devono poter effettuare ciascuno il proprio collegamento, con una diversa sede periferica, nello stesso momento. Sarebbe come avere tre PC collegati a tre linee ISDN diverse, ma noi vorremmo fare tutto utilizzando un'unica linea telefonica, un'unica unita' centrale, un unico modem e tre terminali video, opportunamente equipaggiati con telecamera, microfono, casse acustiche ed eventuali cuffie. I tre terminali verranno utilizzati solo per questo scopo, per cui non ci interessa che siano necessariamente dotati di tastiera, mouse, ecc., ma devono poter prevedere questa possibilita' per il futuro. L'unita' centrale verra' sistemata al piano terra della ns. sede, mentre i tre terminali saranno alloggiati in tre stanze al primo piano. Agli OPeratori interessati chiediamo: - di confermarci la fattibilita' del ns. progetto o, se opportuno, quali sono le modifiche da apportare e per quale motivo; - di segnalarci quali dei Vs. prodotti (HW e SW) ci renderanno possibile la realizzazione nel modo ottimale; con l'occasione, sottolineamo che la Vs. offerta dovra' riferirsi a prodotto finito e perfettamente funzionante, per cui i prezzi che ci proporrete potranno comprendere anche i vari pacchetti software, qualora Vi sia possibile; - qualora non foste nella possibilita' di fornirci tutto l'HW/SW occorrente, Vi preghiamo di segnalarci quali componenti o applicazioni che noi dovremo reperire altrove sono compatibili con i sistemi da Voi forniti; - di informarci riguardo alla compatibilita' tra i Vs. sistemi ed altri eventualmente utilizzati da altre persone o societa' con cui eventualmente dovessimo collegarci, sempre via-Internet ISDN, in videoconferenza (es.: ns. collaboratori, clienti, fornitori, ecc.); - qualcuno ci ha accennato ai "radio modem"; potreste dirci cosa sono esattamente, per quali usi possono essere impiegati e, quindi, se possono prestarsi al caso in questione? - di farci pervenire (CON LA MASSIMA URGENZA!!!) la Vs. proposta/offerta a mezzo e-mail e, contemporaneamente, tramite posta o corriere, unitamente a cataloghi, schede tecniche e listini. Le offerte dovranno pervenire via e-mail e, contemporaneamente, dovranno essere spedite a mezzo espresso (postale o corriere) a: C.E.D. Federico Donzelli Via San Biagio, 86/s I-97013 COMISO (RG) Tel.: ++39-932-966.603 Fax: ++39-932-966.603 E-mail: fdonzel@tin.it
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From: lfh@pilot.njin.net (Luis Hernandez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Word Processors and DTP Date: 15 Apr 1997 04:27:33 -0400 Organization: Rutgers University Message-ID: <5ive5l$6c1@pilot.njin.net> Hello once again! Now I'm looking for a word processor and possibly dtp software for my (soon to be purchased) NeXT Station. After some research, I found that WriteNow was no longer bundled with NS3.3. So now I need to look for a decent word processor so I can make my NeXT my daily driver to replace my PC. Just wanted to know what's out there and how much it costs. Last, my dad just opened a little printshop and right now, he uses a PC with MS Word for layout. If I could show him a NeXT with a 17" monitor (he uses a 14"!) with a good layout program, I may be able to get him to give me some funding (for a NeXTDim possibly!) I know FrameMaker is out there, but that's a little overkill, my dad really needs something more like PageMaker or so. Please reply to cjabido@npl.org since I don't know when this account will die. Thanks in advance and thanks for your previous help. Carl Jabido Newark Public Library cjabido@npl.org
From: lfh@pilot.njin.net (Luis Hernandez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: POP Mail reader? Date: 15 Apr 1997 03:29:06 -0400 Organization: Rutgers University Message-ID: <5ivao2$623@pilot.njin.net> References: <5itjdg$lvq@pilot.njin.net> Thanks to all for your quick responses! Also I did a little more research and found there are free ways to run X Windows on a NeXT slab (my other question). Also answered my question about memory configuration. I wanted to get a system by the end of this week, but now I'm gonna save up some more money and get a full system (32 megs RAM and 1gig HD). Is 32 megs enough for a Turbo Color Station? Thanks again, Carl
From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: Tiff-Editor like IconBuilder Date: 15 Apr 1997 07:09:11 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5iv9in$5tn@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> References: <5ism2v$6uo@news.sns-felb.debis.de> In-Reply-To: <5ism2v$6uo@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Hello Ralf Specht: I have a shrinkwrapped copy of Icon Builder for sale. If your interested email: bhi1@ix.netcom.com Best Regards Rob Blessin On 04/13/97, Ralf Specht wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm looking for a good tiff editor (shareware or pd) like IconBuilder.app >which offers better >zooming and pixel maipulation (cloning would be nice). It should support >different pencils >with different widths, a rubber, ... > >Is there one out here on the net? > >Thanks... > >....Ralf >-- >Ralf Specht >Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm >Department of Text Understanding Systems >P.O. Box 23 60 >89013 Ulm, Germany > >e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM >phone: +49 731 505-2356 >fax: +49 731 505-4113 > > -- Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 http://www.blackholeinc.com/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993.
From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What about Impact soft and SUPER DRAW? Date: 15 Apr 1997 07:04:51 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5iv9aj$5r8@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> References: <E8Gw35.F1@manki.toppoint.de> In-Reply-To: <E8Gw35.F1@manki.toppoint.de> Hello Manfred: I've been reselling Super Draw for them.. Here is the contact information: Lee, Mark (ML3150) mlee@IMPACT.COM Impact Software Publishing Inc. 156-58 E. 33rd Street New York, NY 10016 (718) 472-0600 (FAX) (718) 472-0610 Record last updated on 23-Mar-97. The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. Best Regards Rob Blessin On 04/10/97, Manfred Roehr wrote: >Hi, > >does anybody know whats going on with SUPER DRAW from impact software? Any >try to contact via e-mail does not reach - Henry Hsu <hhsu@impact.com> - > >thanks for answer > >Manfred > -- Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 http://www.blackholeinc.com/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: simple data bases for use with www under OPENSTEP Message-ID: <1997Apr15.111152.47472@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch Date: 15 Apr 97 11:11:52 MET Hello, I'm looking for simple (light-weight) databases for use together with the web (without having to deploy NeXT's web environment) and OPENSTEP4.0 for mach. I've tried msql, but the 2.0beta version seems to hang the machine and the 1.0 lacks the varying length text fields which I need. Thanks in advance, Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
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From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rumba--'unknown host' message Date: 15 Apr 1997 12:57:46 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ivu0a$1fq@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <19970329150100.KAA09723@ladder01.news.aol.com> In article <19970329150100.KAA09723@ladder01.news.aol.com> willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) writes: > I'm trying to use rumba to connect my NeXTCube running NS 3.1 to my very interesting. so after samba, someone has developed rumba? i'm looking forward to seeing chachacha and tango joining the game :-) khanh, ps: here in vienna, the most popular one is viennese waltz!
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Formatting drive from CD Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:29:14 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-1504971129140001@145.detroit-005.mi.dial-access.att.net> I have a copy of NS 3.2 user on CD, but it's an upgrade version. Can one still format a blank HD on a NeXT with this CD? I can't seem to get it to do a build disk with the info on the CD if I boot from another formatted HD. Is it possible to boot from the CD? If not, how does one go about making a boot floppy and can one use a regular HD floppy or do you have to use a 2.4 Meg floppy? Mitch
From: scribex@cedep.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can somebody explain Lighthouse stealth on their apps? Date: 14 Apr 1997 23:17:05 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5iudth$tln@supernews.login.net> References: <mitchell.allen-0704970742540001@172.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> <E8Iuqu.5E7@nidat.sub.org> In-Reply-To: <E8Iuqu.5E7@nidat.sub.org> All Lighthouse applications for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP can be ordered from Andre Lalonde <scribex@cedep.net>. Both commercial and academic licenses are available. Orders are processed promptly. (English or French) Cheers, - Andre Lalonde SCRIBEX - Translation & Distribution Montreal, Qc - Canada Phone: (514) 526-3996 Fax: (514) 526-4004 E-Mail: scribex@cedep.net (NeXTMail - MIME - ASCII ) URL: http://www.mlink.net/~tralala/ (under construction ‘ soon moving to www.scribex.com ) =========================================== On 04/12/97, Peter Nitezki wrote: > Very nice! > > It's just a shame that 1-800 numbers don't work outside the US! > > -- > Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth > Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and > D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked > GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 --------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: nameserver?? Message-ID: <E8pDL9.6yL@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: ihate@spammers.com Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:36:44 GMT References: <5j0vcm$ia5$1@brokaw.wa.com> In comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin bf wrote: > Im rather new to the next community and actually just fired up my color > station today to learn about it. I was trying to configure the network > and setup its IP, gateway etc with the SimpleNetworkSetup or something > similar in the admin apps. However i noticed no place to stick in a > nameserver, so i went searching for a resolv.conf in /etc with no luck. > Im not running a YP, etc server on this little localnet, so how do i > setup what nameservers to use?? You had it right. You just need to create an /etc/resolv.conf file from scratch. By default there isn't one since if you just use Netinfo and don't talk to the Internet then you don't need DNS. Once you've done this just fire up the nslookup command to test things out. You don't even need to reboot. If you need to set up a default route, I can give you tips on that score as well. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine."
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS Versions Date: 15 Apr 1997 22:12:44 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <5j0ugs$hnp@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <01bc4942$6bd32480$c9cc92cf@default> "Christian Jensen" <chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > I am curious to know how many releases of NEXTSTEP exist. I am aware that > version 3 had four (3.0, .1, .2, .3), and that OpenStep will shortly have > three (4.0, .1, .2). > > How many releases of 1.x and 2.x were there? There were some mythological things before 4Q 1988, such as a version 0.6 that was up and running (on a Sun 3, not a NeXT!) as a nostalgia thing at one of the last NeXT Expos. With the release of actual NeXT hardware, the earliest version was 0.8; around the end of 2Q 1989 came 0.9, and then at the end of that year 1.0 and 1.0a. (I forget what trivial thing was fixed in the latter of these. The improved Browser and many other good things came in 2.0, around winter 1990/91, and 2.1 was out by August 1991, when I got a warranty replacement from NeXT of a Maxtor hard drive that had gotten noisy---they loaded 2.1 for me free of charge, which is why I remember this. I believe there was a 2.2 as well, but it was a very minor upgrade, which had no advantages I can recall except for fixing some system call that caused Mathematica to get wrong answers on certain hyperbolic trig functions. > Also, were 1.x and 2.x distributed on OD or CD? All of these were delivered on oppies; 3.0 was the first CD-ROM release. > Does anyone recall what demos were bundled with 1.x and/or 2.x? Several of the demos have been replaced by newer versions, or upgraded to mainstream /NextApps. Others, like ScorePlayer and Ensemble, were offloaded to the MusicKit. I've been careful about saving the ones that just vanished, and believe I have a complete set. Here's the list: Old: Automata Gourmet.app Ray.app Balancer.app Icon.app RealTimeAlgebra BreakApp ImprovDemo.app Saturn.app CircuitBuilder.app Mandelbrot.app Scene CompressionLab MonsterScope ShowAndTell Crop.app New StatLab.app DataVizBridge PendulumLab.app Stealth.app Date Poker Synthesizer.app ForYourEyesOnly README_General.wn TopologyLab.app FractalTrees README_Sound&Music.wn Current (new or updated): 3View.app DDMViewer.app OpenSesame.app AppInspector.app Draw.app PhotoAlbum.app BackSpace.app FileMerge.app ProductFeedback.app Billiards.app Keyboard.app RenderManager.app BoinkOut.app Mandelbrot.app ScreenScape.app BugNeXT.app Mandelslow.app Sound.app CDPlayer.app Molecule.app TeXview.app Chess.app NeXTtv.app Zilla.app Gourmet is a front end for Mathematica, which assumes the old location for Mma in /NextApps instead of /LocalApps, and also some details about the file structure of Mma that ceased to be true after Mma 2.0, I think. You can still run it if you build the right links to spoof the presence of the old Mathematica; there used to be a blurb on the net explaining how. Icon.app is even more thoroughly dead; it's undocumented, was always subject to unexplained crashes, and is allegedly evil code, not worth repairing. Nonetheless, there is a bitwise patch that will enable you to go on using it if you have access to the NS 2.x shlibs on which it depends, and again build some links to put them where it wants them. If you do this, you get the _old_ color panel, since you're effectively running Icon under NS 2.x. It's fun, but any serious app like WetPaint or TIFFany blows it out of the water, so the only reason to keep it up and running is antiquarian interest. Ray.app is a ray-tracing thing that dies on launch under anything but NS 1.x; I've never tried to get it running again. There was a GuidedTour.app that was introduced with NS 2.0 that was really stunning: sit back and watch us use the Workspace and File Viewer, with voiceover and real-time mouse magic. It depended on the menus all being where it needed them when it clicked, so under NS 3.0 and up the demo got out of sync and failed; since it took up more than 6 MB (which was real disk space in those days) I deleted my copy. Other than those caveats, everything in the above list still works for me. By the way, I have 0.9, 1.0a, and 2.1 oppies here that are still intact, but my MO drive is dead and I haven't gotten around to installing the replacement I bought. When I do, if anyone is still interested, I'll post _exactly_ what is in /LocalDeveloper/Demos in each official version. > Thanks to all who answer. (BTW, if there is a web page that spells > all this out, an URL would be appreciated!) I wrote a history of "where we've been" for one of these groups several years ago: I'll append it below, although it doesn't really address all your questions. Some newcomers may find it worth skimming. ----- Date: Fri, 21 Oct 94 17:06:04 EDT From: joshua (To: nguyen05@futures.wharton.upenn.edu (DUCT NGUYEN)) To: nguyen05@futures.wharton.upenn.edu (DUCT NGUYEN) Subject: Re: NeXT education, please! You wrote: > Anyway, can anyone educate be about the NeXT really quickly? I > don't need extreme specifics, but I would like to know more about > the hardware and software. Better yet, can you tell me where to > go to get more info? NeXT first made a cube, back in 1988. Moto 68030 processor, floating point chip, integrated DSP chip with port for digitized sound and data applications, 8 MB RAM, 17 inch B&W monitor with unusual clarity at 94 dpi and a very high (72 Hz? 76 Hz?) scan rate. The monitor/keyboard/mouse get both power and data from the cube through a single nonstandard ten-foot coax, so there is only one power cord for the whole setup. The cube accepts four nonstandard 12" by 12" cards onto its backplane, mounted vertically two on each side. The motherboard itself occupies one of the four slots. In the middle, between slots 1,2 and slots 3,4, is space for the power supply and two full-height 5.25 inch SCSI devices. NeXT was among the first to support SCSI-II. The factory configuration had a highly nonstandard (but nifty) 256 MB magneto-optical drive in one of the two bays---it was initially thought that this would obviate the need for a hard drive entirely, but at 90 msec the MO disks proved intolerably slow to access for Unix virtual-memory swapping. (They are quite fast in steady throughput.) The MO drive was supported by a custom VLSI chip on the motherboard, guaranteeing that no one else will ever support it. The motherboard also had twelve separate DMA channels, giving memory-to-memory, memory-to-device, and memory-to-CPU throughput far beyond what you would expect from an '030 machine. The motherboard had a nonstandard printer port, a SCSI port, two serial ports with hardware flow control, a thin ethernet port, and the custom monitor interface. The printer was also highly nonstandard. It is a 400 dpi Canon engine, with 8-9 ppm throughput and a straight level paper path. Since the NeXT screen imaging model is Display PostScript, no PostScript engine is required in the printer. Thus, the printer has no memory, knows no fonts---it looks to the computer like a very slow, very high-res video device. All imaging is done in the computer itself, using the same PostScript fonts and code as for the screen display---true WYSIWYG. The computer then bit-blasts the raster image of the page to the printer out the custom port. The advantages of this arrangement include having a powerful CPU and lots of memory for imaging, as well as having your printer benefit from any CPU, memory, or future software upgrades. The disadvantage of having your CPU tied up while imaging is largely mitigated by the multitasking, virtual-memory OS. Sustained page throughput is almost 8 ppm, even when rather involved graphics are being imaged, and system performance seldom takes more than a 15% hit during printing. Mac and PeeCee users will find the printer performance startling. The NeXT cube can also output PostScript code to non-NeXT SCSI printers, and with a third-party software product can output rastered PostScript renderings to non-NeXT non-PostScript devices. In 1990 an accelerated motherboard, with an '040 running at 25 MHz, was introduced. The old motherboard can be left in a second slot to provide a dedicated print- or fax-server, with a six-inch thin ethernet cable linking the two machines---these are then two independent networked computers, sharing a single display and power supply. The new board also added a 10-BaseT port. At the same time, a design flaw was corrected, by reversing the fan to blow air _out_ of the MO drive rather than _into_ it. A dust-filter-and- retrofit kit was supplied free of charge, but dust accumulation made perhaps 10% of the MO disk drives unreliable, sealing their reputation. In 1991, NeXT introduced a low-priced NeXTstation, in a pizza-box configuration. This machine has a single half-height hard drive, a 2.88 MB floppy drive, a shortened custom monitor cable (3 feet), and the familiar screen. There is no room for internal expansion, and only 32 MB of 4 Mb 30-pin SIMMs will fit in the slab, as against 64 MB on the motherboard of the cube. At the same time, NeXT offered a 16-bit color slab, and a highly innovative 12" x 12" color board for the cube. This board, the NeXTdimension, used an i860 processor with five times the power of the motherboard's CPU, giving truly stunning performance in true 32-bit color. It came with 8 MB of its own, upgradeable to about 64 MB, and also incorporated a signal processor for realtime MPEG compression and decompression, a feature which was crippled by the signal processor chip failing to meet spec---NeXT considered a lawsuit. The RGB and NTSC/PAL input jacks on the NeXTdimension do work as designed, and it remains a powerful system for video capture and editing, if you have sufficient disk space to work without realtime compression. Both the NeXTdimension board and the NeXTstation color slab connect to a `soundbox' instead of the color monitor: the soundbox provides power to the keyboard and mouse, CD-quality sound output (incorporated in the display on the monochrome machines), and an RGB video signal for the monitor. With a soundbox doing the innovative part of the NeXT monitor's job, it is possible to use any third-party monitor capable of supporting NeXT's high resolution and scan rate. This saved NeXT from having to produce a nonstandard color monitor to go with their B&W one. The monitors they sold as original equipment include an early 17" Phillips that had problems, a 17" FIMI that quickly replaced it, a 21" Hitachi, and finally a very high-quality 17" Sony Trinitron, just before they left the hardware market. The cube was sold after 1991 with a 2.88 MB floppy in place of the MO drive, and NeXT stopped supporting the MO technology. The OS was distributed on CD-ROM, and they also sold an external SCSI CD-ROM; third-party CD-ROM drives will also work. Finally, in 1992, shortly before they stopped making hardware, they introduced Turbo versions of the cube, station, and color station, using faster memory, a 33 MHz '040 instead of 25 MHz, and some improvements to the custom DMA silicon, resulting in about a 50% speedup. At the same time, they introduced an ADB-compatible keyboard and mouse, but very few of these were ever sold. Other than the NeXTdimension, a very rare Ariel QuintProcessor board (5 DSP's and a lot of fast memory, for high-powered signal-processing applications), and motherboard upgrades, no boards for the cube's nonstandard 25 MHz NuBus-variant 12" x 12" slots were ever made. Street prices right now are around $1k for a working '030 cube with monitor, 8 MB, and a 340 MB hard drive, $1.5k for an '040 slab with 8/105, $2k for an '040 slab or cube with 24/400+, almost $3k for a working color slab, an extra kilobuck for Turbo anything, $500 for a NeXT printer, perhaps $200 for a CD-ROM drive or a working MO drive, and anywhere up to $2k for the rare NeXTdimension board that comes up, depending on memory configuration. You need 16 MB to run NeXTstep happily, and 24 MB if you have color, no matter what anyone may tell you to the contrary. As with all virtual-memory systems, memory shortages cause graceful failure---you'll never see an out-of-memory error, but swapping will exhaust finite human patience. The full OS distribution comes to about 210 MB fully installed if you are running the older 2.1 or 2.2 version; of the new color-friendly versions, 3.0 is slow, 3.1 is buggy, and 3.2 is magnificent, but requires about 290 MB. There are reduced OS distributions for small hard drives, and from 3.1 on the developer tools were unbundled and sold separately...but it's silly to try to get by with less than half a gig at current disk prices. The old black hardware is supported by Bell Atlantic through 1998. They have everything in stock, but their prices for out-of-warranty work are usually prohibitive. Several small vendors have taken up the slack, and their posts can often be seen on this forum. Most black hardware owners are _intensely_ fond of their machines, which are ergonomically superb and seem to achieve total system throughput comparable to Pentium machines with four and five times the theoretical speed. I expect that there will be loyalists to keep the hardware running into the next century, if you are so motivated. A plan to retrofit a 50 MHz Moto 68060 processor into the cubes is already in the works. PowerPC is unlikely, although since NeXT twice tried and failed to bring a Moto RISC workstation to market (the 88110 in 1991, and a rumored multiprocessor PowerPC in 1992), the hard work for the port has already been done. I hope this `folk history' is what you needed. If you have more specific questions after digesting it all, I'm sure other people will have more to say.... Tell a man that there are 300 billion stars in |============================= the universe, and he'll believe you. Tell him | Joshua Burton (401)435-6370 that the bench over there has wet paint on it, | burton@het.brown.edu and he'll touch it to make sure, every time. |============================= ----- NOTE: that's not my address (or phone number) any more. Here's a more current .sig: LISP programmers know the |================================================ value of everything and the | Joshua W Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu cost of nothing. - A.Perlis |================================================
From: j.w.j.gijsen@stud.tue.nl (Gijsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: mailbombers Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:11:25 GMT Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Message-ID: <3353d2d5.2872466@news.tue.nl> Please help me find an email bomber program...mine crashed
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970402.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970323.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970316.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 02 Apr 1997 06:00:00 -0700 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> and also at <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NS Versions Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E8oyuE.8BK@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:18:13 GMT References: <01bc4942$6bd32480$c9cc92cf@default> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <01bc4942$6bd32480$c9cc92cf@default>, Christian Jensen <chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > >How many releases of 1.x and 2.x were there? > I remember 0.8, 1.0, and 1.0a. They were on OD. I also remember 2.0 and 2.1. They were, as I recall, available on OD or floppy. There was 2.x and 2.x Extended (the non-extended one eliminated the Shakespear stuff plus some other components.) >Does anyone recall what demos were bundled with 1.x and/or 2.x? > Nope. Sorry. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: "Keivn Curtiss" <slev@realitybbs.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Resume Downloads on the Internet! Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 11:38:58 -0700 Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <5j0i0t$bbd$4@brokaw.wa.com> Has this ever happened to you? You are just about to finish a 2 hour download and all of a sudden you get diconnected from the internet! "SHOOOOOT!!! ", you say! "Now I have to start it ALL over again!". Don't let this happen to you! If you want a file that will allow you to resume downloads over the internet, go to http://www.tapestry.net/ On the main menu, there is a button called "GetRight". Click there... That will let you download the program! Tell your friends about this program and where to get it.. once again, the address is http://www.tapestry.net/ -- Kevin Curtiss (Slev) slev@realitybbs.com http://www.tapestry.net - Slev's Web Page
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS Versions Date: 15 Apr 1997 20:01:19 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5j0mqf$o4g$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <01bc4942$6bd32480$c9cc92cf@default> <E8oyuE.8BK@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Add a 0.9 I got one sitting on the shelf somewhere it is also OD.. Godwin David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : In article <01bc4942$6bd32480$c9cc92cf@default>, : Christian Jensen <chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: : > : >How many releases of 1.x and 2.x were there? : > : I remember 0.8, 1.0, and 1.0a. They were on OD. : I also remember 2.0 and 2.1. They were, as I recall, available on OD or : floppy. There was 2.x and 2.x Extended (the non-extended one eliminated the : Shakespear stuff plus some other components.) : >Does anyone recall what demos were bundled with 1.x and/or 2.x? : > : Nope. Sorry. : -- : David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca : Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ : University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer : Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS Versions Date: 16 Apr 1997 00:15:04 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5j15m8$c2v@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <01bc4942$6bd32480$c9cc92cf@default> <5j0ugs$hnp@news.acns.nwu.edu> jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) wrote: > The improved Browser and many other good things came in 2.0, > around winter 1990/91, and 2.1 was out by August 1991, when I > got a warranty replacement from NeXT of a Maxtor hard drive that > had gotten noisy---they loaded 2.1 for me free of charge, which > is why I remember this. I believe there was a 2.2 as well, but > it was a very minor upgrade, which had no advantages I can recall > except for fixing some system call that caused Mathematica to > get wrong answers on certain hyperbolic trig functions. There was both a 2.2 and a 2.2a. One of these might have had something to do with getting support for the new ADB keyboard and mouse. > > Also, were 1.x and 2.x distributed on OD or CD? > > All of these were delivered on floppies; 3.0 was the first CD-ROM > release. Release 2.2 was available on CD-ROM, but the format was not the convenient organization of the release 3.0 CD. And you really had to be persistent to get it. I think that by the time I got it, NS-3.0 was either shipping or pretty close to shipping. Note that I still have it, right here in my office, so I am sure it existed. 2.2a was a pretty minor update. As I remember it came on a floppy or two, and it only applied to certain machines. I *think* I got that too, but at the moment I can't find it. And if we're talking of *all* releases of NeXTSTEP, we should also list the "J" releases (such as "Release 3.0J"), which is the regular NeXTSTEP release plus all the japanese support. It was pretty hard to get ahold of this unless you were in Japan (although I did manage to get the 3.0J release on CD). > > Does anyone recall what demos were bundled with 1.x and/or 2.x? > > Several of the demos have been replaced by newer versions, or > upgraded to mainstream /NextApps. Others, like ScorePlayer and > Ensemble, were offloaded to the MusicKit. I've been careful > about saving the ones that just vanished, and believe I have a > complete set. ftp://eclipse.its.rpi.edu/NeXT/misc/ls_outputs has a set of directories in it, each of which includes a complete listing of some release (or configuration) of NeXTSTEP. The oldest one I have, however, is "2.2ext". It does not happen into include all the 4.0 or 4.1 configs, although I do have them on some floppy somewhere. Someday I'll probably destroy all those, as they're not really all that useful anymore. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: andreas@lynet.de (Andreas Hoeschler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SMP-Version of OpenStep Mach for Intel Date: 16 Apr 1997 08:03:20 GMT Organization: LyNet Kommunikation und Netzwerkdienste GmbH Message-ID: <5j2148$167@merkur.lynet.de> Hello, does anyone know, when the SMP-Version of OpenStep Mach (Intel) is going to be released. It's much more cost-effective, to have a Computer with two or more very cheap Pentium-Chips, than buying one with a single PentiumPro or higher (the newer chips are always very expensive). So Next(Apple) really would do the customers a favour with bringing something like that on the market very soon. Andreas
Message-ID: <33525C56.BAE@madriver.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 16:33:29 +0000 From: Phil Marshall <pmarshall@madriver.com> Organization: Signal Advertising MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] NS 3.3 nerworking References: <see-0804971525380001@204.191.6.58> <19970409032901.XAA07629@ladder01.news.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I am proud to annouce the public availability of the easy-install binary CAP > (Columbia Appletalk Package) for NeXTStep 3.3/OpenStep 4.x on Intel processors. Hi, I just bought a NextStation Turbo ADB (NextStep 3.2), and the manuals refer to a preference for setting up access to Appleshare servers and Apple Printers. This option doesn't show up in my prefs. Any suggestions on how I could add it? Also, can I add an external CD ROM drive? If so, what types work? Phil Marshall Signal Advertising
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970416.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970409.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970402.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 16 Apr 1997 13:00:00 -0600 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Last-modified: 1997-Apr-03 FAQ-Last-modified: 1997-Apr-07 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> and also at <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: gjvo@xs4all.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: NEXTTOYOU wants your MailTIFFs Date: 16 Apr 1997 20:28:33 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <5j3cph$l68$1@news1.xs4all.nl> References: <5j1fva$a22$1@news.digifix.com> Excuse my numbness (it's late) but could someone explain what the advantages of the Grand Unified mailTIFF database are over the simple X-Image-URL header? -- Geert Jan van Oldenborgh work: oldenbor@knmi.nl else: gjvo@xs4all.nl web: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gjvo
From: "Marc P. Duchesne" <mduchesn@easynet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP !!! : REBOOTING - MONITOR - HANG UP Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:21:42 +0200 Organization: [posted via] Easynet SA Message-ID: <3354D266.4714@easynet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi There My system: NeXTCube 16/400 Mo, running NEXTSTEP 3.3 (stand-alone machine, no network) The problem to be fixed: after booting by the Monitor, I cann't access to the Workspace Manager, nor to the login window. Actually, the system hangs up in the Monitor "NeXT Mach Operating System" window. Following is the process: -------------------------------------------------- Wed April 16 13:59:31 GMT+0100 1997 Checking disks /dev/rsd0a: file system clean: skipping check Faking root mount entries Setting tape block size for /dev/nrst0 Setting tape block size for /dev/nrst1 The network is disabled or your computer isn't connected to it. lo0: adress automatically set to 127.0.0.1 Setting hostname to -AUTOMATIC- Reinitializing nmserver's network portion /usr/etc/mach_swapon: swapping on /private/vm/swapfile.front Cleaning up: /etc/nologin ptys floppy devices editors /tmp /Net. Starting early daemons: syslogd. Starting RPC and network services: portmapApr 16 13:59:47 localhost syslogd: /usr/spool/mqueue/syslog: No such file or directory netinfo lookupd. Mounting remote filesystems Starting file service daemons:. Starting network daemeons: intetdApr 16 13:59:48 localhost netinfod[98]: checking NetInfo database local.nidb sendmail printer. Starting NeXT services: pbs exec_faxes. Starting standard daemons: update cron. Apr 16 13:59:47 localhost rebbot: Reboot complete NXFax kernel server 1.03 loaded %> xwing_fax: log trimmed to 1000 lines %> xwing_fax: Unknown modem [...] %> xwing_fax: Wait for incoming call -------------------------------------------------- To help you to fix this problem, here are some facts: - I have to boot with the monitor ("NeXT > bsd") since 2 years now ! Never have problem like this one. - The login window always did appear after the line: %> xwing_fax: log trimmed to 1000 lines - The only I can do is to shut down the machine with the "Alim" key Thanks for your help, _Marc (Please reply at mduchesn@easynet.fr) -- Marc P. Duchesne mduchesn@easynet.fr -------------------------------------------------- XWinG, The Fiberoptics Consulting & Training Company CE4801, Lisses - F 91048 Evry Cedex, France Tel +33 (0)1 60 86 2050 Fax +33 (0)1 60 86 2053 infos@xwing.oleane.com http://www.optoroute.com/fiber66 --------------------------------------------------
From: "Kevin Birch" <kbirch@xsf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: nameserver?? Date: 16 Apr 97 20:31:09 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <AF7AE7A2-1ED9C@10.1.5.32> References: <E8pDL9.6yL@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Allan Noordvyk" <allan@cetus.ali.bc.ca> Cc: kbirch@mindspring.com nntp://news.mindspring.com/comp.sys.next.sysadmin Return-Receipt-To: ÁH On Tue, Apr 15, 1997 6:36 PM, Allan Noordvyk <mailto:allan@ali.bc.ca> wrote: >You had it right. You just need to create an /etc/resolv.conf >file from scratch. By default there isn't one since if you just >use Netinfo and don't talk to the Internet then you don't >need DNS. >Once you've done this just fire up the nslookup command >to test things out. You don't even need to reboot. >If you need to set up a default route, I can give you tips >on that score as well. Well, I've been hearing this same advice from many, but I when I tried it, I got nada. I had no /etc/resolv.conf, so I created one with domain and nameserver lines, but nslookup always thinks that the name server is 0.0.0.0! Is there anything in NetInfoManager that I am missing? This has really got me fustrated. TIA, Kevin --------------------------------------------------- This message was created and sent using the Cyberdog Mail System ---------------------------------------------------
From: rreynolds@rockstar.com (Richard Reynolds) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Killing pppd Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:34:16 -0700 Organization: Rockstar Studios, Inc. Message-ID: <rreynolds-1604971734160001@sfo-ca16-12.ix.netcom.com> For some odd reason, I can't kill pppd on my 4.0 OpenStep Turbo Station. I've tried kill -HUP 123 as well as every other kill option and it just won't die. Any ideas? Man someone has got to come out with a better PPP for NeXT/Rhapsody (Hint Hint). -- Rick Reynolds... Head Geek & Executive Nerd Rockstar Studios, Inc. For more FreePPP and Gearbox information check out http://www.rockstar.com Gearbox is coming in May 97 (Betcha can't wait!)
From: max@no-spam.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for chess Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:24:08 -0700 Organization: Maxgraphic Message-ID: <max-1604972024080001@blv-pm107-ip1.halcyon.com> I'm trying to find a free/shareware chess app for NS 3.0 Moto. I found one on Peanuts, but it was source only. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance. Please e-mail too. Max -- Max Pinton, max at maxgraphic dot com Maxgraphic Digital Portfolio, http://www.maxgraphic.com
From: "Futeh Kao" <futeh@sprynet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: nameserver?? Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 00:02:12 -0400 Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <5j4aut$9fb$1@juliana.sprynet.com> References: <E8pDL9.6yL@gateway.ali.bc.ca> <AF7AE7A2-1ED9C@10.1.5.32> try end the nameserver line with a return, i.e. "domain blah...\n nameserver 192.42.172.1\n" in C string representation. Hope this help. Kevin Birch wrote in article ... >On Tue, Apr 15, 1997 6:36 PM, Allan Noordvyk <mailto:allan@ali.bc.ca> >wrote: >>You had it right. You just need to create an /etc/resolv.conf >>file from scratch. By default there isn't one since if you just >>use Netinfo and don't talk to the Internet then you don't >>need DNS. > >>Once you've done this just fire up the nslookup command >>to test things out. You don't even need to reboot. > >>If you need to set up a default route, I can give you tips >>on that score as well. > > > >Well, I've been hearing this same advice from many, but I when I >tried it, I got nada. I had no /etc/resolv.conf, so I created one with >domain and nameserver lines, but nslookup always thinks that the >...
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: nameserver?? Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 09:13:53 +0200 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <3355CDB1.446B@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <E8pDL9.6yL@gateway.ali.bc.ca> <AF7AE7A2-1ED9C@10.1.5.32> <5j4aut$9fb$1@juliana.sprynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you are using OpenStep/mach 4.x the lookupd is configured by netinfo. (See /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/ReleaseNotes/lookupd.rtf) This means that lookupd looks for DNS (due to /etc/resolv.conf) to resolve names only if it is configured to do so. Set the right values with Netinfomanager.app like this: (nidump -r locations .) name = locations; CHILDREN = ( ... , { name = lookupd; MaxThreads = 12; CHILDREN = ({ name = hosts; LookupOrder = (CacheAgent, DNSAgent, NIAgent); }, { name = users; LookupOrder = (CacheAgent, NIAgent); }, { name = groups; LookupOrder = (CacheAgent, NIAgent); }, { name = netgroups; LookupOrder = (CacheAgent, NIAgent); }); }); Unfortunately the word "LookupOrder" isn't written with a capital "L" in release notes. This is a documentation bug. I haven't seen anything documented which defautls lookupd uses if not configured with netinfo. Stefan Futeh Kao wrote: > > try end the nameserver line with a return, i.e. > "domain blah...\n > nameserver 192.42.172.1\n" in C string representation. > Hope this help. > > Kevin Birch wrote in article ... > >On Tue, Apr 15, 1997 6:36 PM, Allan Noordvyk <mailto:allan@ali.bc.ca> > >wrote: > >>You had it right. You just need to create an /etc/resolv.conf > >>file from scratch. By default there isn't one since if you just > >>use Netinfo and don't talk to the Internet then you don't > >>need DNS. > > > >>Once you've done this just fire up the nslookup command > >>to test things out. You don't even need to reboot. > > > >>If you need to set up a default route, I can give you tips > >>on that score as well. > > > > > > > >Well, I've been hearing this same advice from many, but I when I > >tried it, I got nada. I had no /etc/resolv.conf, so I created one with > >domain and nameserver lines, but nslookup always thinks that the > >... -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: ihate@spammers.com (bf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: nameserver?? Date: 15 Apr 1997 22:27:34 GMT Organization: Crack Whores of America Message-ID: <5j0vcm$ia5$1@brokaw.wa.com> Im rather new to the next community and actually just fired up my color station today to learn about it. I was trying to configure the network and setup its IP, gateway etc with the SimpleNetworkSetup or something similar in the admin apps. However i noticed no place to stick in a nameserver, so i went searching for a resolv.conf in /etc with no luck. Im not running a YP, etc server on this little localnet, so how do i setup what nameservers to use?? -b ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.halcyon.com/larryf/ -- larryf at halcyon dot com ----------------------------------------------------- --NOTE: Email address in header is fake due to spam-- -------------------------------------------------------------
From: lhow@ecr.mu.oz.au (Luke HOWARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: nameserver?? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 17 Apr 1997 07:48:32 GMT Organization: Comp Sci, University of Melbourne Message-ID: <5j4kkg$3fe@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> References: <E8pDL9.6yL@gateway.ali.bc.ca> <AF7AE7A2-1ED9C@10.1.5.32> <5j4aut$9fb$1@juliana.sprynet.com> <3355CDB1.446B@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> : Unfortunately the word "LookupOrder" isn't written with a capital "L" in : release notes. This is a documentation bug. I haven't seen anything : documented which defautls lookupd uses if not configured with netinfo. I believe that the default lookup order is CacheAgent, NIAgent (except for hosts and networks,where the order is CacheAgent, NIAgent, DNSAgent). I *think* this is the same as for lookupd in 3.x. -- Luke
From: The Guy Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Technical Support Message-ID: <33540875.1@205.186.245.7> Date: 15 Apr 97 23:00:05 GMT All the technical support numbers you need http://www.supporthelp.com
From: radium@sympatico.ca (Stephen MacDougall) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Killing pppd Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:48:13 GMT Organization: RADium Technology Centre (Canada) Message-ID: <33566207.1502138@news1.sympatico.ca> References: <rreynolds-1604971734160001@sfo-ca16-12.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:34:16 -0700, rreynolds@rockstar.com (Richard Reynolds) wrote: >For some odd reason, I can't kill pppd on my 4.0 OpenStep Turbo Station. >I've tried kill -HUP 123 as well as every other kill option and it just >won't die. > >Any ideas? > >Man someone has got to come out with a better PPP for NeXT/Rhapsody (Hint Hint). > >-- >Rick Reynolds... >Head Geek & Executive Nerd >Rockstar Studios, Inc. >For more FreePPP and Gearbox information check out http://www.rockstar.com > >Gearbox is coming in May 97 (Betcha can't wait!) Try 'kill -KILL 123' If this does not work, then nothing short of a reboot will kill the process. However, this always seems to work for me with pppd. Good luck. Stephen MacDougall
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPD for newer HP Laserjets Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:12:37 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970417101225.880B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I currently have an HP Laserjet III on my NeXTstation running NS3.0 (I have a cable with a serial port connection on one end and a 25-pin connector on the other) . I'm looking to upgrade to a newer HP Laserjet that's faster and has built-in postscript (e.g. HP 5MP or HP 6MP). Does anyone have the correct PPD files for either of these printers? Anything else I should consider? Reasons why this won't work? Thanks for any comments. Robert rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu
Date: 17 Apr 1997 12:51:21 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <cancel.33540875.1@205.186.245.7> Control: cancel <33540875.1@205.186.245.7> From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: The Guy Subject: cmsg cancel <33540875.1@205.186.245.7> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970417.01 for further details
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: NEXTTOYOU wants your MailTIFFs Date: 17 Apr 1997 17:06:59 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5j5lbj$222@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5j1fva$a22$1@news.digifix.com> <5j3cph$l68$1@news1.xs4all.nl> gjvo@xs4all.nl wrote: > Excuse my numbness (it's late) but could someone explain what > the advantages of the Grand Unified mailTIFF database are over > the simple X-Image-URL header? There are two important advantages: 1. X-Image-URL works fine for people with a persistant connection to the internet. However, if you access the internet from home via PPP and a phone line, you most probably won't read your mail while being online. In this case, X-Image-URL doesn't work. 2. For X-Image-URL to work, *both sides* of the communication chain need to be equipped with it. The MailTIFF database, however, works with just the email address so it doesn't matter if the other side is equipped with the mechanism. This is important for mail from people who don't use Mail.app (or another mail program with this facility), but it's even more important for usenet, where you communicate with countless others, and *none* of them has an X-Image-URL newsreader right now (and won't have in the foreseeable future because as long as we have the internet structure of today, no home user will want to read masses of news online but rather from a local newsserver like PersonalINN). Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help: OS Mach 4.1 Power-off and Restart button disabled. Date: 17 Apr 1997 20:48:22 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <5j62am$q2f@news.service.uci.edu> All of a sudden, the Power-off and Restart button on the usual login panel become disabled(dimmed). I can not select them any more. To shut down the machine I'd have to do the hard way: Alt-Alt-NumLock on my PC. I am running OpenStep for Mach Intel 4.1. Any suggestions are appreciated. -- Feng Liu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of California, Irvine Irvine, CA 92697-3975 phone: 714-824-1750, or 714-824-5406(MAE Department) Fax: 714-824-1750, or 714-824-8585(MAE Department)
From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: NEXTTOYOU wants your MailTIFFs Date: 17 Apr 1997 16:13:18 GMT Organization: Private NEXTSTEP site, Germany Message-ID: <5j5i6u$hin@mimi.in-berlin.de> References: <5j1fva$a22$1@news.digifix.com> <5j3cph$l68$1@news1.xs4all.nl> Cc: gjvo@xs4all.nl In <5j3cph$l68$1@news1.xs4all.nl> gjvo@xs4all.nl wrote: > Excuse my numbness (it's late) but could someone explain what the advantages > of the Grand Unified mailTIFF database are over the simple X-Image-URL > header? Most people have no dial-on-demand account so the mailTIFF database is the only way. If have dial-on-demand but I don't want that at every mail with X-Image-URL my isdn line will be open! It costs a lot of money. :-] Gerald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 397 31 400 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 public key available |
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SmartSoft StayInTouch- where is developer? Date: 17 Apr 1997 19:20:35 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5j5t63$4ln$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> Does anyone know who developed SmartSoft's StayInTouch, an Address Book app? I would very much like to contact them. Regards, Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net)
From: planetary <planet@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SmartSoft StayInTouch- where is developer? Date: 17 Apr 1997 15:55:43 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5j668v$o64@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5j5t63$4ln$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> alanf@izzy.net wrote: : Does anyone know who developed SmartSoft's StayInTouch, an Address Book app? : I would very much like to contact them. Alberto Ricart, SmartSoft. Used to be in Minnesota. I think they moved to Florida. Alberto posts to the group every once in a while. ...............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
Date: 15 Apr 1997 09:32:53 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <cancel.5ivp2j$9h8$4950@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Control: cancel <5ivp2j$9h8$4950@msunews.cl.msu.edu> From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: -no- @pm281-22.dialip.mich.net Subject: cmsg cancel <5ivp2j$9h8$4950@msunews.cl.msu.edu> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970415.01 for further details
From: scribex@cedep.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What about Impact soft and SUPER DRAW? Date: 15 Apr 1997 06:29:29 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5iv789$2v9@supernews.login.net> References: <E8Gw35.F1@manki.toppoint.de> In-Reply-To: <E8Gw35.F1@manki.toppoint.de> In Germany, SuperDraw4 can be purchased from Schneider Software. URL: http://www.cedep.net/~scribex/German/index.html E-Mail: stefan@ping.at English, French & German: see: http://www.cedep.net/~scribex/ To reach Impact Software directly, you can also fill in the form at: URL: http://www.impact.com/German/EMail/index.html Cheers, -André ===================== On 04/11/97, Manfred Roehr wrote: > Hi, > > does anybody know whats going on with SUPER DRAW from impact software? Any > try to contact via e-mail does not reach - Henry Hsu <hhsu@impact.com> - > > thanks for answer > > Manfred >
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for chess Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:01:53 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-1704972301540001@165.cincinnati-001.oh.dial-access.att.net> References: <max-1604972024080001@blv-pm107-ip1.halcyon.com> In article <max-1604972024080001@blv-pm107-ip1.halcyon.com>, max@no-spam.com (Max Pinton) wrote: > I'm trying to find a free/shareware chess app for NS 3.0 Moto. I found one > on Peanuts, but it was source only. > > Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > Thanks in advance. Please e-mail too. > Isn't there one in the demo folder on your machine? Mitch
From: wotmp@rhodes.edu (Mike Wottle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: nameserver?? Date: 17 Apr 97 23:20:18 GMT Organization: The University of Memphis Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[3400] Message-ID: <3356b032.0@ALPHA.RHODES.EDU> References: <E8pDL9.6yL@gateway.ali.bc.ca> <AF7AE7A2-1ED9C@10.1.5.32> <5j4aut$9fb$1@juliana.sprynet.com> Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. Kevin - tell me how you fized it if you do - I'm having the exact same problem. Thanks.
From: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca (Seamus Dunne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need Telescope Optic Ray Trace app Date: 16 Apr 1997 20:15:38 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5j3c1a$i19$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> I am looking for a ray trace app to run on my NeXT 040 cube, for serious amateur astronomy: lenses, mirrors, designing & analysis. I've seen a demo version of Zemax--for windoze3.1 only, and another called Beam for DOS-boxes. Also both are pricey: (Zemax starts at ~$900.) There's another shareware called IRT which is also windoze-based, and not friendly. Any suggestions here? Thanks in advance. Answer here, email or both. Seamus -- If I can't die happily-- I'd rather not die at all. Anon
From: "Paul Reckas" <contact@softrise.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Seeking for feedback on our new software Date: 18 Apr 1997 07:50:08 GMT Organization: Softrie S.A. Message-ID: <01bc4bd6$45dc95e0$1ed01ec2@comp126> We are trying to get an honest feedback on our new Business Information Management software we have developed. Please visit us at our site: http://www.softrise.com. There you can find information on our products, Business Coordinator Professional and Light. We have a FULL working demo at http://www.softrise.com/demo_dl.htm for you to download and evaluate. You may send us your opinion from our feedback page at http://www.softrise.com/feedback.htm or e-mail us directly at feedback@softrise.com. As a courtesy for your time and effort we will enter you on our drawing to win one of 19 Business Coordinator packages that we give away every month (total value of packages $7,150.00). We thank you in advance for your interest and your opinions. P.S. Please send replies by e-mail or through the feedback page listed above. -- ________________________________________ Paul Reckas International Marketing Executive Softrise S.A. http://www.softrise.com softrise@softrise.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: VRML-viewer Message-ID: <1997Apr18.111523.47477@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch Date: 18 Apr 97 11:15:23 MET Is there any VRML (Virtual Rendering Markup Language) viewer for NEXTSTEP around? Currently, we are forced to use Netscape on WindowsNT (or SOLARIS). -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need Telescope Optic Ray Trace app Date: 16 Apr 1997 23:06:29 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <5j3m1l$rs7@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <5j3c1a$i19$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Cc: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca In <5j3c1a$i19$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Seamus Dunne wrote: > I am looking for a ray trace app to run on my NeXT 040 cube, for serious amateur > astronomy: lenses, mirrors, > designing & analysis. I've seen a demo version of Zemax--for windoze3.1 only, If you have Mathematica for your NeXT then there is a commercial program from Wolfram called Optica that will do exactly what you want. Sorta high end if you don't have MMA. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help: OS Mach 4.1 Power-off and Restart button disabled. Date: 18 Apr 1997 15:30:20 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5j842c$9dp$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5j62am$q2f@news.service.uci.edu> In-Reply-To: <5j62am$q2f@news.service.uci.edu> On 04/17/97, Feng Liu wrote: >All of a sudden, the Power-off and Restart button on the usual login panel >become disabled(dimmed). I can not select them any more. To shut down >the machine I'd have to do the hard way: Alt-Alt-NumLock on my PC. >I am running OpenStep for Mach Intel 4.1. > These may have been disabled by root in Preferences -- there is an extra entry in Prefernces which only shows up when you're logged in as root. Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to read PDF files? Date: 18 Apr 1997 15:31:33 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5j844l$9dq$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5hhhhv$sf8@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <19970329151901.KAA10709@ladder01.news.aol.com> <joshspamlesswonder-1204970916450001@accs-as35-dp08.nwrk.grid.net> In-Reply-To: <joshspamlesswonder-1204970916450001@accs-as35-dp08.nwrk.grid.net> On 04/12/97, Josh Lewis wrote: > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > Subject: Re: How to read PDF files? > OmniPDF.app should do it. Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processors and DTP Date: 18 Apr 1997 15:42:31 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5j84p7$9kt$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5ive5l$6c1@pilot.njin.net> In-Reply-To: <5ive5l$6c1@pilot.njin.net> On 04/15/97, Luis Hernandez wrote: >Hello once again! > >Now I'm looking for a word processor and possibly dtp software >for my (soon to be purchased) NeXT Station. After some research, >I found that WriteNow was no longer bundled with NS3.3. So now I >need to look for a decent word processor so I can make my NeXT >my daily driver to replace my PC. Just wanted to know what's out >there and how much it costs. > If you just want basic word-processing, look at CedarWord http://www.cedar.co.uk/ it's very cheap, and an excellent product. For something more, I'd recommend AFS's WriteUp. AFS also make a very good page layout app, PasteUp -- pasteup@afs.com >Last, my dad just opened a little printshop and right now, he uses >a PC with MS Word for layout. > Seriously?! I really wonder how successful he will be if he considers Word to be adequate for printshop-quality layout. >If I could show him a NeXT with a >17" monitor (he uses a 14"!) with a good layout program, I may >be able to get him to give me some funding (for a NeXTDim possibly!) >I know FrameMaker is out there, but that's a little overkill, my dad >really needs something more like PageMaker or so. > FrameMaker is outstanding for *technical* documentation; for something akin to PageMaker you should look at PasteUp (op cit.), or maybe Create (http://www.stone.com/) or SuperDraw (http://www.impact.com/). If you really want to do this stuff professionally, look at OneVision: http://onevision.de/ (no "www"). Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: John van Heteren <vanhet@sirius.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is the specs of Lighthouse Diagram!2 file format? Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:22:53 -0700 Organization: Sirius Connections Message-ID: <33579FDD.4ACB@sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, When Lighthouse came out with their drawing program, Diagram!2, they deliberately chose an ASCII document format so that developers could make files readable by Diagram!2. I am a licensed user of Diagram!2. I intend to write a tiny app that would output data that I can subsequently manipulate with Diagram!2. I could look at sample *.diagram2 files and try to reverse engineer their format, but it would be much faster to read a published spec or document. Does anyone know if the Diagram!2 file format specification is available? If so, where can I get a copy? Thank you, John van Heteren vanhet@sirius.com
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS Versions Date: 18 Apr 1997 15:52:13 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5j85bd$9qf$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <01bc4942$6bd32480$c9cc92cf@default> <5j0ugs$hnp@news.acns.nwu.edu> In-Reply-To: <5j0ugs$hnp@news.acns.nwu.edu> On 04/16/97, Joshua W. Burton wrote: > Other than the NeXTdimension, >a very rare Ariel QuintProcessor board (5 DSP's and a lot of fast >memory, for high-powered signal-processing applications), and >motherboard upgrades, no boards for the cube's nonstandard 25 MHz >NuBus-variant 12" x 12" slots were ever made. > Umm, actually there was another DSP board -- Ariel's ISPW (IRCAM Signal Processing Workstation) -- which came with 2 i860s and another 56k. Three of these could be put in a Cube, and four Cubes braced together, to give absolutely phenomenal (for the time, maybe even now) processing power (1.2 GFLOPs comes to mind). If you had enough memory you could do wonderful things -- one demo I went to at the Royal College of Music (thanks to Lawrence Casserley) had a piece of music with a 36 second reverb (stereo, at 22KHz). I think there may have been another board too...? Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: gvandyk@icon.co.za Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPD for newer HP Laserjets Date: 18 Apr 1997 05:11:15 GMT Organization: E.S. Systems cc (Financial Systems Development) Message-ID: <5j6vpj$7tg$1@hermes.is.co.za> References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970417101225.880B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970417101225.880B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> On 04/17/97, "Robert G. Jacobs" wrote: >I currently have an HP Laserjet III on my NeXTstation running >NS3.0 (I have a cable with a serial port connection on one end and a >25-pin connector on the other) . I'm looking to upgrade to a newer HP >Laserjet that's faster and has built-in postscript (e.g. HP 5MP or HP >6MP). > >Does anyone have the correct PPD files for either of these printers? > >Anything else I should consider? Reasons why this won't work? > >Thanks for any comments. > >Robert >rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu > > > You should be able to get the PPD's from HP. (www.hp.com ??) If you have a version of the PPD's for DOS/Windows it is a trivial task to convert them to PPD's for NeXT. You can have a look in NeXTanswers for a way to do this. If you can't find anything to convert them, feel free to mail me as I have downloaded the doc's on how to do this. I have done it successfully for the HP Laserjet 4Mplus. -- Regards, Gerrit van Dyk email: gvandyk@icon.co.za (NeXTMail welcome) E.S. Systems cc The OBJECT is the ADVANTAGE
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPD for newer HP Laserjets Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:13:22 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970418111205.264D-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970417101225.880B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> <5j6vpj$7tg$1@hermes.is.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: gvandyk@icon.co.za In-Reply-To: <5j6vpj$7tg$1@hermes.is.co.za> I have the PPDs for many earlier HPs, but can't get one for the 6MP. I downloaded the files for the 6MP from www.hp.com, but can extract a simple PPD text file for the printer. Rob On 18 Apr 1997 gvandyk@icon.co.za wrote: > On 04/17/97, "Robert G. Jacobs" wrote: > >I currently have an HP Laserjet III on my NeXTstation running > >NS3.0 (I have a cable with a serial port connection on one end and a > >25-pin connector on the other) . I'm looking to upgrade to a newer > HP > >Laserjet that's faster and has built-in postscript (e.g. HP 5MP or HP > >6MP). > > > >Does anyone have the correct PPD files for either of these printers? > > > >Anything else I should consider? Reasons why this won't work? > > > >Thanks for any comments. > > > >Robert > >rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu > > > > > > > You should be able to get the PPD's from HP. (www.hp.com ??) > If you have a version of the PPD's for DOS/Windows it is a trivial > task to convert them to PPD's for NeXT. You can have a look in > NeXTanswers for a way to do this. If you can't find anything to > convert them, feel free to mail me as I have downloaded the doc's on > how to do this. > > I have done it successfully for the HP Laserjet 4Mplus. > > -- > Regards, > Gerrit van Dyk > email: gvandyk@icon.co.za (NeXTMail welcome) > E.S. Systems cc > The OBJECT is the ADVANTAGE > > >
From: max@no-spam.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for chess Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:51:09 -0700 Organization: Maxgraphic Message-ID: <max-1804971051100001@blv-pm111-ip17.halcyon.com> References: <max-1604972024080001@blv-pm107-ip1.halcyon.com> <mitchell.allen-1704972301540001@165.cincinnati-001.oh.dial-access.att.net> In article <mitchell.allen-1704972301540001@165.cincinnati-001.oh.dial-access.att.net>, mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: > In article <max-1604972024080001@blv-pm107-ip1.halcyon.com>, > max@no-spam.com (Max Pinton) wrote: > > > I'm trying to find a free/shareware chess app for NS 3.0 Moto. I found one > > on Peanuts, but it was source only. > > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > > > Thanks in advance. Please e-mail too. > > > Isn't there one in the demo folder on your machine? > > Mitch Nope. I have a NeXTstation 8/105, and I guess I have a somewhat abbreviated installation of NS 3.0, because I'm missing Webster's, all man pages, and, apparently, some demo apps. I do have the original 3.0 CD, but no CD drive. Are there any other chess apps around? Thanks. -- Max Pinton, max at maxgraphic dot com Maxgraphic Digital Portfolio, http://www.maxgraphic.com
From: pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is the specs of Lighthouse Diagram!2 file format? Date: 18 Apr 1997 18:20:48 GMT Organization: private Message-ID: <5j8e20$86v@luck.shnet.org> References: <33579FDD.4ACB@sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John van Heteren <vanhet@sirius.com> wrote: > Does anyone know if the Diagram!2 file format specification >is available? Try Diagram.app/English.lproj/Manual/+D_File_Format.rtfd Christian
From: andreas@lynet.de (Andreas Hoeschler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AnsweringMachine for OpenStep 4.1 Mach Date: 18 Apr 1997 10:19:25 GMT Organization: LyNet Kommunikation und Netzwerkdienste GmbH Message-ID: <5j7hrd$2ke@merkur.lynet.de> Hello, I just settled from OS/2 to OpenStep. On OS/2 I had a software-answeringmachine using any common ISDN-Adaptor (Teles). Is something equal out there for OpenStep. I would really appreciate this. Andreas
From: dustinb@ispn.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for a Primer on NeXT w/ PPP over Modem Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 09:43:31 -0600 Organization: ISPN Message-ID: <3353A21C.44478FB6@ispn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 All- I recently acquired a black NeXT cube (motorola 030) with NeXT OS v2.0. It's amazing what it does on an 030. But it's kind of an island, since it's not connected to a LAN. Can anyone point me to some information that will help me figure out how to install a modem, configure PPP software and login to the Internet via a script (CLI) or PAP? I know the basics of TCP/IP and PPP configuration, I'm just lost concerning what software I need for NeXT, if I can buy a serial cable or need to get one made (I found the pin-out information already), etc. If I can do email and telnet with this box, I'm set. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Dustin Beltram
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processors and DTP Date: 18 Apr 1997 16:03:29 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5j860h$5t6$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5ive5l$6c1@pilot.njin.net> I think Openwrite might fit the bill.. you can ftp demo from lighthouse.com Godwin Luis Hernandez (lfh@pilot.njin.net) wrote: : Hello once again! : Now I'm looking for a word processor and possibly dtp software : for my (soon to be purchased) NeXT Station. After some research, : I found that WriteNow was no longer bundled with NS3.3. So now I : need to look for a decent word processor so I can make my NeXT : my daily driver to replace my PC. Just wanted to know what's out : there and how much it costs. : Last, my dad just opened a little printshop and right now, he uses : a PC with MS Word for layout. If I could show him a NeXT with a : 17" monitor (he uses a 14"!) with a good layout program, I may : be able to get him to give me some funding (for a NeXTDim possibly!) : I know FrameMaker is out there, but that's a little overkill, my dad : really needs something more like PageMaker or so. : Please reply to cjabido@npl.org since I don't know when this account : will die. : Thanks in advance and thanks for your previous help. : Carl Jabido : Newark Public Library : cjabido@npl.org
From: jan@obed-le0.cs.ualberta.ca (Jan Sacharuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,gnu.emacs.help Subject: emacs meta-key on NeXT.. Date: 18 Apr 1997 12:52:45 -0600 Organization: U of Eh? Message-ID: <qrd20886u4i.fsf@obed-le0.cs.ualberta.ca> Is there any way to set the meta key to be anything but the escape key? It's usually not to bad, but it gets tiring to scroll up and hit the alternate key (which I'm used to), and getting weird garbage. Thanks. Jan Sacharuk
From: grape@matrix.teuto.de (Timo Hoepfner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help: OS Mach 4.1 Power-off and Restart button disabled. Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 20:57:42 +0200 Organization: PoP teuto.net Bielefeld Message-ID: <199704182057422168869@[192.168.0.2]> References: <5j62am$q2f@news.service.uci.edu> Feng Liu <fliu@uci.edu> wrote: > All of a sudden, the Power-off and Restart button on the usual login panel > become disabled(dimmed). I can not select them any more. To shut down > the machine I'd have to do the hard way: Alt-Alt-NumLock on my PC. > I am running OpenStep for Mach Intel 4.1. > > Any suggestions are appreciated. > On my Nextstation (NEXTSTEP 3.2), I can power th achine off by entering "power" as user-name into the login window. Other keywords I found: "exit" seems to restart the Workspace manager (right word?) and "reboot" reboots the computer. Any more keywords out there? Bye Timo --- Timo Hoepfner - grape@matrix.teuto.de
From: woll@msc.cornell.edu (Arthur Woll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,gnu.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs meta-key on NeXT.. Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,gnu.emacs.help Date: 18 Apr 1997 21:17:27 GMT Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center Sender: aw30@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <5j8od7$jd8@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <qrd20886u4i.fsf@obed-le0.cs.ualberta.ca> : : Is there any way to set the meta key to be anything but the escape : key? It's usually not to bad, but it gets tiring to scroll up and hit : the alternate key (which I'm used to), and getting weird garbage. : : Thanks. : xmodmap is an X program which can bind keys in the X-environment, and can be used to set up meta-keys. I use xev (another client) to find the "keycode" for a key and the bind it using xmodmap. Actually, xmodmap is run automacially, (from within my .cshrc I think) and I've got the following lines in my .xmodmaprc file: keycode 64 = Meta_L keycode 113 = Meta_R keycodes 64 and 113 are what my left and right alt keys generate. Meta_L and Meta_R are referred to as keysyms. These keysyms can (at least I think this is how it works) then be bound to modifier keys. Typing xmodmap with no arguments will show you what keysyms (with keycodes in octal in parens) are bound to what modifier keys. For me, the above lines were all that were necessary
From: "Nathan C. Burnett" <burnettn@enmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: nameserver?? Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 23:08:54 -0600 Organization: Eastern New Mexico University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970417230703.1278C-100000@cedar.enmu.edu> References: <E8pDL9.6yL@gateway.ali.bc.ca> <AF7AE7A2-1ED9C@10.1.5.32> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Kevin Birch <kbirch@xsf.com> cc: Allan Noordvyk <allan@cetus.ali.bc.ca> In-Reply-To: <AF7AE7A2-1ED9C@10.1.5.32> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 16 Apr 1997, Kevin Birch wrote: > Well, I've been hearing this same advice from many, but I when I > tried it, I got nada. I had no /etc/resolv.conf, so I created one with > domain and nameserver lines, but nslookup always thinks that the > name server is 0.0.0.0! Is there anything in NetInfoManager that > I am missing? This has really got me fustrated. > We had this problem before as well. It turned out that we had the permissions on /etc/resolv.conf incorrect. As root, do a chmod 644 /etc/resolv.conf and that *should* fix it. As to not having a resolv.conf in the first place, just create one, it's the standard BSDish format. Nate - --- Nathan C. Burnett nate@acm.org ENMU Systems Administrator http://wwwstd.enmu.edu/burnettn/ PGP Key: http://wwwstd.enmu.edu/burnettn/pgpkey.txt Don't get even -- get odd! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM1cB7c2CzYgxXPeRAQEVTgP8CVleyNwHHJqemNmkwnRX/wWFM3Pbx5AG EiqJ6FMEbGCqpnh6ERVt1ILztmTaiHxM3G+loXAjZPzWd+6GQdMVkyKBlBYnZzTh 3ICJry5LKUN105Lp8wN31o2BXtNuWXH413YnSGyt0SRkjx4os0/yCAU7/NzoM0pd 9+M+kBB71mA= =f8VN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
From: Kevin Birch <kbirch@xsf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: nameserver?? Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 21:13:32 -0500 Organization: Xsf, Incorporated Message-ID: <33582A47.7121@xsf.com> References: <E8pDL9.6yL@gateway.ali.bc.ca> <AF7AE7A2-1ED9C@10.1.5.32> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Kevin Birch <kbirch@xsf.com>, Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu>, Futeh Kao <futeh@sprynet.com>, Mike Wottle <"wotmp"@rhodes.edu >, Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>, Luke HOWARD <lhow@ecr.mu.oz.au>, Nathan.Burnett@enmu.edu, paul@spectrum.slu.edu, kris@xmission.com, allan@cetus.ali.bc.ca CC: welshofer.jay@mindspring.com Kevin Birch wrote: > > ... <snip> ... > Hello all, Thanks to everyone who has sent messages regarding the nameserver problem I've been having. When I posted my original message I probably didn't give enough information on my setup. It was pretty late when I wrote it so you'll have to forgive me. Here is my situation: I have a HP 712/80i running NeXTSTEP 3.3 User. It is a new install, so there is no danger of a corrupt system from a previous install. I created a resolv.conf file after reading the docs just like I've done on dozens of other UN*X systems. But nslookup never seemed to read in the address of the namserver. The resolv.conf file looks like this: takeda:21# cat resolv.conf domain cyberstar.com server 10.1.5.2 server 192.168.254.4 Paul Sanchez had hinted at something regaring the end of line character, but I created this file in vi, so I am assuming they would be correct. With the the resolv.conf file in this format nslookup does the following: takeda:22# nslookup Default Server: takeda Address: 0.0.0.0 > rune Server: takeda Address: 0.0.0.0 res_mkquery(0, rune.cyberstar.com, 1, 1) recvfrom: Connection refused recvfrom: Connection refused *** takeda can't find rune: No response from server > rune.cyberstar.com Server: takeda Address: 0.0.0.0 res_mkquery(0, rune.cyberstar.com.cyberstar.com, 1, 1) recvfrom: Connection refused recvfrom: Connection refused *** takeda can't find rune.cyberstar.com: No response from server > takeda:23# I can change the server to the ip address of our server, and I can resove names within nslookup ( although it still prints out the "recvfrom: Connection refused" messages immediately after changing the ip address of the server). Stefan Ried had mentioned that NetInfo will preempt standard DNS, and that was what I was thinking was happening, since the nameserver never changes in nslookup. So I took Stefan Ried's advice and did a nidump and got this: takeda:23# nidump -r locations . name = locations; CHILDREN = { name = renderers; CHILDREN = { name = localhost; _writers = "*"; note = "Local Renderer"; }; }; There doesn't seem to be any entries for lookupd, even though it shows up in the process table. Would this info be somewhere else in 3.3? I also looked in NetInfo per Paul Sanchez's suggestion but it, ofcourse contains the same information. If I were to create file with the form of: name = locations; CHILDREN = ( ... , { name = lookupd; MaxThreads = 12; CHILDREN = ({ name = hosts; LookupOrder = (CacheAgent, DNSAgent, NIAgent); }, { name = users; LookupOrder = (CacheAgent, NIAgent); }, { name = groups; LookupOrder = (CacheAgent, NIAgent); }, { name = netgroups; LookupOrder = (CacheAgent, NIAgent); }); }); and then did a niload, would this force NetInfo to behave? I am stumped. What am I missing? I apologize for the length of this message, but I wanted to clarify my situation. Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA, Kevin
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: nameserver?? Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:29:44 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4nJakMG00iUyI4MbB3@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <E8pDL9.6yL@gateway.ali.bc.ca> <AF7AE7A2-1ED9C@10.1.5.32> In-Reply-To: <AF7AE7A2-1ED9C@10.1.5.32> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Apr-97 Re: nameserver?? by "Kevin Birch"@xsf.com > Well, I've been hearing this same advice from many, but I when I > tried it, I got nada. I had no /etc/resolv.conf, so I created one with > domain and nameserver lines, but nslookup always thinks that the > name server is 0.0.0.0! Is there anything in NetInfoManager that > I am missing? This has really got me fustrated. Did you put the IP addresses in /etc/resolv.conf and not the names? Why not show us the file.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LaTeX2e's bombs with *.sty files Date: 19 Apr 1997 04:46:17 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5j9imp$h75$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> I just installed LaTeX2e from the NeXT archives, and when I try to use it, it can't use the *.sty files I want it to use. The file begins with: %&latex \documentclass[ICGAproceedings]{article} \usepackage{epsf} \begin{document} ... and I get the error: LaTeX Warning: Unused global option(s): [ICGAproceedings]. And sure enough, the style is not used. When I try instead: %&latex \documentclass{article} \usepackage{ICGAproceedings} \usepackage{epsf} \begin{document} then I get the error: ! Undefined control sequence. <argument> \footheight l.15 \setlength\footheight{0pt} \setlength\footskip{0pt} Is this something amiss with this LaTeX2e implementation? Or am I not groking LaTeX2e right? Any clues would be greatly appreciated. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenberATmhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> <Substitute @ for "AT"; done to stop junk e-mail> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: "Nassos Giannopoulos" <ngian.ath.forthnet.gr@popper.forthnet.gr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 2 Question Date: 5 Apr 1997 13:10:19 GMT Organization: FORTHnet S.A. - HELLENIC TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND TELEMATICS APPLICATIONS COMPANY Message-ID: <01bc41c2$86f698a0$c2c8dbc2@dummy.forthnet.gr> References: <334456C2.38F4@kuodesign.com> Hi, if you are going to buy a PC (or a SPARC, or a HP) to run NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP you should better check out the Hardware Compatibillity Guide, before you make a purchase, at the NeXT site ( htttp://www.next.com ). If you want to buy a ready make PC with NeXTSTEP and you live in Europe or the UK you should check out ( http://www.plsys.co.uk/plsys.home.htmld/index.html ). If you live in the USA you can contact BIFROST Workstations (http://www.bifrostworks.com/) or Optimal Object ( sorry I can't remmember their site's address, but you can use Lycos or Yahoo to find it ). On the other hand if you want to buy original NeXT hardware you should look at Spherical Solutions ( http://www.orb.com/ ). However before you buy any hardware be sure to check the StepWise NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Server where you can find a WWW introduction to NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP (just to get you more excited). As for your second question, no NeXTSTEP does not run on Macs, because if it did NeXT would be able to sell NeXTSTEP for Macinstosh which it didn't. Before I end can you please tell where I can find (buy) the NextWorld magazine, because I have been trying for some time find it unsuccessfully. Thanks :-) Sam <sam@kuodesign.com> wrote in article <334456C2.38F4@kuodesign.com>... > I am a Mac user and I'm very excited about the Apple/Next merger. I just > can't wait for Rhapsody to come out. I want to get my hands on > Nextstep/Openstep right now to get a feel for it--see how it ticks.... > > 1) I'm considering buying a used Next station (because it looks so cool) > or buy some PC (gasp!) to run the NS/OS OS. ....
From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: nameserver?? Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 20:45:08 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970418204330.6149H-100000@saul5.u.washington.edu> References: <E8pDL9.6yL@gateway.ali.bc.ca> <AF7AE7A2-1ED9C@10.1.5.32> <33582A47.7121@xsf.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros In-Reply-To: <33582A47.7121@xsf.com> Predicate: Whose triangle is it? On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Kevin Birch wrote: > takeda:21# cat resolv.conf > domain cyberstar.com > server 10.1.5.2 > server 192.168.254.4 obelix:13# cat /etc/resolv.conf domain washington.edu nameserver 128.95.20.1 nameserver 128.95.21.1 search washington.edu u.washington.edu HTH ok -r http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kjaeros -------------------------------------- [ e x l i b r i s ]
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Respecting Transparency Date: 6 Apr 1997 02:29:37 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970406022900.VAA17393@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5i4k24$69o@news1-alterdial.uu.net> It's my understanding that Virtuos simply doesn't do this--and that this was one of the prime criticisms levied on it when it was released. It can fake transparency for vector objects, but as far as I know, that's it. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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From: peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: NEXTTOYOU wants your MailTIFFs Date: 18 Apr 1997 21:50:51 GMT Organization: Peter's Private Newsserver Message-ID: <5j8qbr$c11@unity.westfalen.de> References: <5j1fva$a22$1@news.digifix.com> <5j3cph$l68$1@news1.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit gjvo@xs4all.nl wrote: > > Excuse my numbness (it's late) but could someone explain what the advantages > of the Grand Unified mailTIFF database are over the simple X-Image-URL > header? 1. Yes you don´t have to be online to watch the Picture of somebody who wrote something to you in Mail.app or send news to the newsgroup you just read in Alexandra! 2. If you write somebody you have his e-mail address and his picture in the Mail.app Address-panel. For example John Kheit in summer appearance sitting in a hot place ;-) 3. Its all automatic! You don´t have to bother to get this pics. Everybody just install the programms and send his picture in format "peter@unity.westfalen.de.tiff" and his alias file and send it via NeXTMail to MailTIFFs@nexttoyou.de. And as maybe some body asks what this NEWS was here is the quote peter INTERNET: NEXTTOYOU announces global MailTIFFs database by Uli Zappe, Digital Fix Development NEXTTOYOU announces global MailTIFFs database NEXTTOYOU is pleased to announce a global MailTIFFs database for the NEXTSTEP community for use with internet email and the usenet. It allows you to automatically administrate MailTIFFs from internet users and get their pictures displayed in Mail.app as well as newsreaders prepared for this mechanism. The NEXTTOYOU MailTIFFs database consists of a set of programs to be installed on your computer and a global MailTIFFs server provided by NEXTTOYOU. NeXT's own MailTIFF mechanism apparently was aimed at the intranet only. Contrary to other trials to enhance NEXTSTEP's functionality in this respect, the NEXTTOYOU MailTIFFs database is a fully automatic solution that everybody should be able to use. Once you've installed the programs and submitted your own MailTIFF to the NEXTTOYOU MailTIFFs server, you won't have to care for anything and will always have an up-to-date MailTIFFs database on your computer. NEXTTOYOU strongly encourages everybody in the NEXTSTEP community to participate in its initiative to make the internet a bit less anonymous. - Whoever is principally willing to publish a MailTIFF of her/himself should send it to the NEXTTOYOU MailTIFFs server (see details below). - Programmers of newsreaders who are willing to make their products compatible are encouraged to do so. Please mail any questions regarding this matter to uli@nexttoyou.de. The programs you need to install are mailDBupdate.in, fetchMailTIFFs and convertMailTIFFs. You can find these programs at ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/97.1-Fruehjahr/ MailTIFF.database/MailTIFF.database.1.0.1.b.NIHS.tar.gz * mailDBupdate.in is a replacement for NeXT's mailDBupdate for computers which are connected to the internet. mailDBupdate can't handle internet users correctly. mailDBupdate.in automatically * registers MailTIFFs from internet users * registers aliases for these internet users * provides full-internet-address aliases for local users * imports MailTIFFs retrieved by EnhanceMail (V>=2.0beta7) * deletes outdated MailTIFFs * fetchMailTIFFs automatically updates your local MailTIFFs database with MailTIFFs newly arrived at the global NEXTTOYOU MailTIFFs server. * convertMailTIFFs converts the names of MailTIFFs you may have already stored to the correct format. In addition to MailTIFF.database.1.0.b.NIHS.tar.gz, if * you use NEXTSTEP <3.3 and you don't already have installed the Z shell zsh, you'll need zsh.3.0.2.NIHS.bs.tar.gz * you want to use the MailTIFFs mechanism also for usenet but your current newsreader does not already support the NEXTTOYOU MailTIFFs database format, you'll need either the compiled Alexandra.0.82.mod.NIHS.b.tar.gz or, if you want to recompile Alexandra yourself, Alexandra.TiffPatch.s.tar.gz. You will find these programs in the same MailTIFF.database subdirectory from above. To submit your own MailTIFF to the NEXTTOYOU MailTIFFs server, just name it user@address.tiff (where user@address is your email address) and send it via NeXTMail to MailTIFFs@nexttoyou.de. If you write from more than one email address, you should also include a so-called aliases file which lists your alternative email addresses. For more information, see the instructions that are included in the MailTIFF.database package. NEXTTOYOU is a German NEXTSTEP magazine published by WiNG (Wiesbaden NEXTSTEP Group) to provide the NEXTSTEP community with a platform both for neophytes and professionals. For more information, take a look at http://www.nexttoyou.de. -- peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) Peter Kopatzki Am Bredberg 21 D-49143 Schledehausen "The only purpose of life is Bliss" -Go and create it! NeXTmail, MIME and SUN Solaris welcome URL Firma:http://www.globalsalesnetwork.com URL Privat:http://www.globalsalesnetwork.com/Private.html Phone:+49(0)5402 98050 Public Key on request
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From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: emacs meta-key on NeXT.. Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:14:29 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <InKC5Jq00iWXM1PTl2@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <qrd20886u4i.fsf@obed-le0.cs.ualberta.ca> In-Reply-To: <qrd20886u4i.fsf@obed-le0.cs.ualberta.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 18-Apr-97 emacs meta-key on NeXT.. by Jan Sacharuk@obed-le0.cs > Is there any way to set the meta key to be anything but the escape > key? Take a look at Terminal's Info->Preferences->VT100 Emulation panel; it has three choices for the alternate key's behavior (generates escape sequences, special characters, or sets the high bit). -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LaTeX2e's bombs with *.sty files Date: 19 Apr 1997 17:18:35 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <5jaupb$klo@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5j9imp$h75$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Lee Altenberg (decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net) wrote: : The file begins with: : : %&latex : \documentclass[ICGAproceedings]{article} : \usepackage{epsf} : \begin{document} : ... : : and I get the error: : : LaTeX Warning: Unused global option(s): : [ICGAproceedings]. That is absolutely correct. 'ICGAproceedings' is not an option for an 'article' class and it will be ignored. Check docs. : %&latex : \documentclass{article} : \usepackage{ICGAproceedings} : \usepackage{epsf} : \begin{document} This is the correct format. If 'ICGAproceedings' would have its own options they would go here: \usepackage[option1,option2,...]{ICGAproceedings} : then I get the error: : : ! Undefined control sequence. : <argument> \footheight : : l.15 \setlength\footheight{0pt} : \setlength\footskip{0pt} : : Is this something amiss with this LaTeX2e implementation? Not really. LaTeX never used \footheight for anything and it was just deleted in the current versions - as documented. You have various possibilities. The best one is comment out a line which refers to \footheight in ICGAproceedings.sty. You may also put \let\footheight\relax before '\usepackage{ICGAproceedings}'. You may also use "compatibility mode" and start your header with '\documetstyle...'. This tries to reproduce old LaTeX behaviour, bugs and quirks including, the best it can. Last, but not least, the best place to ask such questions is comp.text.tex newsgroup. Michal
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 4.0 vs 4.1 Openstep Date: 17 Apr 1997 19:19:36 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <5j5t48$eqh$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> When I order some upgrades from NeXTSTEP 3.3 to Openstep 4.0 I had not realized that 4.1 Would come up so soon. I did not proceed to the actual upgrades and now that my 3.3 is corrupt I am considering going to 4.0 OS (on Black Hardware). So the following questions came up? 1. Is it worth ordering 4.1 ? What does it contain more than 4.0? 2. Are NeXTSTEP 3.3 Apps still runnable under Openstep 4.0? 3. Is there something that I have to be aware (other than the release notes) before I upgrade from NS 3.3 to OS 4.0or1 ? Any pointers will be highly appreciated! Thanks everybody --john ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2189 or -2165 | | Naval Research Laboratory | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Code 6380 |e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil| | Washington DC 20375-5000 | michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil|
From: Dan Nichols <dan@kypris.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Can't get AddType to work! Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:19:52 -0500 Organization: CyberNews Network Message-ID: <33591AD8.60D8107@kypris.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can someone help me? I'm running Apache 1.1.0 on a NeXT box. Runs fine, but I can not get a new type to add. I've realaudio encoded a sound file and have put something on a web page with the EMBED tag, pointing to a .rpm file, which is the RealAudio metafile. I've added the following to BOTH mime.types and srm.conf: AddType audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin .rpm I've also tried adding this to my srm.conf: AddHandler x-pn-realaudio-plugin rpm I've restarted the server numerous times. When hitting the web page in Netscape, it tells me there's a plugin of type "text/plain". Anybody have any ideas how I can get this to work or what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Dan -- Daniel A. Nichols [O-] Voice: (972) 790-7255 2905 Lawrence St. Fax: (972) 790-2950 Irving TX 75061-6645 E-Mail: dan_nichols@kypris.com LP 40,45,64 NeXTMail Welcome! <A HREF="http://rampages.onramp.net/~dan/">
From: Dan Nichols <dan@kypris.com> Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can't get SSI to work with Apache Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:32:32 -0500 Organization: CyberNews Network Message-ID: <33591DD0.2F830224@kypris.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I'm running Apache 1.1.0 on a NeXT box. I've done all the things that are supposed to make SSI work, but nothing happens. I added the following to both mime.types and srm.conf, separately and together: AddType text/x-server-parsed-html .shtml Then I added the following to a .shtml file: <!--#include file="sig.html"--> Nothing gets included. The include module is supposedly compiled into my server. Thanks for any help. Dan -- Daniel A. Nichols [O-] Voice: (972) 790-7255 2905 Lawrence St. Fax: (972) 790-2950 Irving TX 75061-6645 E-Mail: dan_nichols@kypris.com LP 40,45,64 NeXTMail Welcome! <A HREF="http://rampages.onramp.net/~dan/">
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bryce@cleopatra.rh.uchicago.edu (Bryce Sady) Subject: bibliography software? Message-ID: <E8wI2D.80u@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:56:37 GMT Hello... I was wondering if anyone could point me to a site for a tool which will aid in the making of RTF bibliographies using a variety of formats. Some sort of "Bibliography Maker" would be very helpful. Thanks you, bryce b-sady@uchicago.edu
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AnsweringMachine for OpenStep 4.1 Mach Date: 19 Apr 1997 17:48:55 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5jb0i7$36u@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5j7hrd$2ke@merkur.lynet.de> andreas@lynet.de (Andreas Hoeschler) wrote: > I just settled from OS/2 to OpenStep. On OS/2 I had a > software-answeringmachine using any common ISDN-Adaptor (Teles). > Is something equal out there for OpenStep. I would really appreciate > this. Internal ISDN adaptors like Teles are not supported by NEXTSTEP. You'll need an external ISDN adaptor like the ZyXEL 2864I. For these adaptors, several answering machine software products are available (such as OlafAM). Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: ihate@spammers.com (bf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: lpd? Date: 19 Apr 1997 21:50:25 GMT Organization: Crack Whores of America Message-ID: <5jben1$v26$1@brokaw.wa.com> ive got a mac on the localnet that is running lpd so that my unix boxes can print to its laserprinter. Can I/How do I setup NeXT to print to a ethernet lpd server? -b ------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.halcyon.com/larryf/ -- larryf at halcyon dot com ----------------------------------------------------- --NOTE: Email address in header is fake due to spam-- -------------------------------------------------------------
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bibliography software? Date: 20 Apr 1997 00:26:59 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <5jbnsj$31i@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <E8wI2D.80u@midway.uchicago.edu> Cc: bryce@cleopatra.rh.uchicago.edu In <E8wI2D.80u@midway.uchicago.edu> Bryce Sady wrote: > Hello... > > I was wondering if anyone could point me to a site for a > tool which will aid in the making of RTF bibliographies > using a variety of formats. Some sort of "Bibliography > Maker" would be very helpful. The current version of Bibliography.app will write the bibliography entry in RTF, HTML & LaTeX. It is also handy for maintaining the standard BibTeX data files. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: rbumpus@comp.uark.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PGP Date: 18 Apr 1997 15:51:20 GMT Organization: The University of Arkansas Message-ID: <5j859o$ebd@picayune.uark.edu> Is there a version of PGP specifically for NS or will the standard UNIX version work on a black machine? Bob
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From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: a2ps -- Anybody built it for NeXT?? Date: 20 Apr 1997 02:55:48 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <5jc0jk$ahv@uuneo.neosoft.com> Has anybody built a2ps, ASCII to Postscript for black hardware? Its a kind of enhanced enscript program. The homepage for it is: http://www-stud.enst.fr/~demaille/a2ps.html ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <15479860904022@digifix.com> Date: 20 Apr 1997 03:59:34 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <26385861508830@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. 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You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5jboaf$8p1@news.netusa1.net> Date: 20 Apr 1997 03:37:08 GMT Control: cancel <5jboaf$8p1@news.netusa1.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5jboaf$8p1@news.netusa1.net> Sender: <glucas@netusa1.net> Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bryce@cleopatra.rh.uchicago.edu (Bryce Sady) Subject: Repost Request: Chinese // Japanese WP? Message-ID: <E8xBqo.HDK@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 06:37:36 GMT There was awhile ago a post on how to do Chinese word processing, Korean, and Japanese word processing on the NeXT. Any info on foreign language word processing, especially Asian would be very helpful... I use WordPerfect for NeXT 1.00 on a Black Slab, by the way. Thanks bryce sady b-sady@uchicago.edu
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniCD 0.6.1: now supports recording on Intel Date: 20 Apr 1997 10:37:06 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5jcrki$5pa$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> OmniCD 0.6.1 has been released. The major difference between this version and 0.6, and the reason a new version is being released, is that recording CD digital audio over the SCSI bus is now supported on Intel boxes. (Hopefully SPARC and PA-RISC as well, but that's untested.) Thanks go to Tomas Hurka for finding my error. (Recording from a Plextor 8Plex is nice and speedy...) For more info or to download, see http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniCD/ (You can download directly from ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/OmniCD.0.6.1.NIHS.b.tar.gz) Please report bugs or send requests to omnicd@omnigroup.com. --- OmniCD is a NeXTstep application for controlling the audio functions of SCSI CDROM drives. It has some non-perfect support for ATAPI devices, but they aren't supported, and volume control will not work; neither will CD digital audio recording. (Feel free to file bug reports, however.) OmniCD serves as a replacement for NeXT's CDPlayer application. The primary reasons for using this application rather than CDPlayer are that it can be controlled via the app icon, and with certain cdrom drives it can record the audio directly over the SCSI bus and into a sound file. Please note: OmniCD requires the Foundation Kit (see the installation instructions below). OmniCD is free, but is currently in early (so to speak) beta form. Omni is not responsible for any damage that may occur as a result of using this software. This application does have fairly low level access to the hardware, and it's conceivable that it could cause system crashes with certain hardware combinations, especially when recording. Please keep in mind that this is a work in progress, and bear with the incomplete nature of this application. However, please do report bugs, feature requests and general comments, especially to note non-working hardware combinations, and to note which bugs/features/etc are most important to you. Changes for version 0.6.1: * Recording is now supported on Intel from CDROM drives which use 12-byte reads, currently Sony/Matshita/Apple and Plextor. May also work on SPARC and HPPA, but that's untested. (Thanks to Tomas Hurka.) * Control icon has minor tweaks to give it a bit of depth. (Thanks to Rene Berber.) * deviceInfo.dict file format improved somewhat. You can now specify specific models and firmware revisions. See the file for more info and examples. * Disabled CDDA transfers for Sony CDU-541 (the NeXT CDROM drive), Sony CDW-900E, and Toshiba XM-4101TA. These are reported to not support CDDA transfers. (Sorry, fast-forward/fast-reverse are still unavailable.) -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP References: <5j859o$ebd@picayune.uark.edu> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <335a00de.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 20 Apr 97 11:41:18 GMT In article <5j859o$ebd@picayune.uark.edu>, <rbumpus@comp.uark.edu> wrote: >Is there a version of PGP specifically for NS or will the standard UNIX >version work on a black machine? > >Bob The standard Unix version works just fine. If you want a GUI/Mail app there are several varieties. Try the Peanuts archive, or Encipher from Whetstone Systems (Shareware) <suggestion@whetstone.com> david ---- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is the specs of Lighthouse Diagram!2 file format? Date: 20 Apr 1997 13:50:01 GMT Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada Message-ID: <5jd6u9$o4s$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> References: <33579FDD.4ACB@sirius.com> In article <33579FDD.4ACB@sirius.com> John van Heteren <vanhet@sirius.com> writes: |Hi, | When Lighthouse came out with their drawing program, |Diagram!2, they deliberately chose an ASCII document |format so that developers could make files readable |by Diagram!2. ... | Does anyone know if the Diagram!2 file format specification |is available? | If so, where can I get a copy? | It's in Appendix D of theDiagram!2 Tutorial and Documentation manual. It seems fairly detailed. -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (NeXTmail OK) Psychology Dept York University Voice: 416 736-5118 Fax: 416 736-5814 4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: bobg@uic.edu (Bob Goldstein) Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can't get SSI to work with Apache Followup-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Date: 20 Apr 1997 15:02:23 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago Message-ID: <5jdb5v$1a8k$1@piglet.cc.uic.edu> References: <33591DD0.2F830224@kypris.com> Dan Nichols (dan@kypris.com) wrote: : Hi. : I'm running Apache 1.1.0 on a NeXT box. : I've done all the things that are supposed to make SSI work, but nothing : happens. : I added the following to both mime.types and srm.conf, separately and : together: : AddType text/x-server-parsed-html .shtml You must also enable the ssi module for your particular directory or location. You need something like: <Directory ....> Options ... Includes .... </Directory> Check out the "Options" directive for details. bobg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu Subject: Auto-display a TIFF? Message-ID: <ukv67xhptjv.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 16:07:00 GMT Is there any program that could be run, e.g., from a shell, that would simply display a TIFF image? What I'm imagining is something like: killzone:12# showtiff /test.tiff ...and about a second later the greyscale TIFF is displayed in my workspace somewhere, and I have a new shell prompt. In short, I want a command-line slide-show program, I believe, but not really, because I just want to show the same image over and over again, but not have one window for each image, but instead one window for all images. (If you're curious, I've got a QuickCam hooked up to a Mac in another room, and it's taking pictures every 10 seconds and saving them as TIFFs. The volume is aps-mounted via CAP to my 3.2 mono black slab. I want to run a cron job that'll cexecute a script that checks to make sure that directory is mounted, and if so, display the latest image the QC's grabbed.) Thanks much! NOTE: There's antispam-fodder in my From: line. You can figure out what to remove, I'm sure. :) -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: "Wilfred LEUNG" <wilfred@asiaonline.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: NS3.3 OS4.x Date: 20 Apr 1997 17:07:25 GMT Organization: Visual Works Limited Message-ID: <01bc4dae$db805440$1f1155ca@server> Looking for 1, used Nextstep 3.3 OS and Developer 2, used Openstep 4.x OS and Developer 3, webobjects entrerprise 3.0 will be in florida from 4 may to 15 may in San francisco area from 16 may wilfred wilfred@asiaonline.net
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Auto-display a TIFF? Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 13:07:58 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0nKYpiq00iWm053wc0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <ukv67xhptjv.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <ukv67xhptjv.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 20-Apr-97 Auto-display a TIFF? by fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicag > Is there any program that could be run, e.g., from a shell, that would > simply display a TIFF image? What I'm imagining is something like: > > killzone:12# showtiff /test.tiff > > ...and about a second later the greyscale TIFF is displayed in my > workspace somewhere, and I have a new shell prompt. Try the 'open' command. It will cause the WorkSpace to open the document using the default app exactly as if you had double-clicked on it from the browser. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processors and DTP Date: 20 Apr 1997 18:39:38 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5jdnta$jke$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5ive5l$6c1@pilot.njin.net> <5j860h$5t6$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> In-Reply-To: <5j860h$5t6$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> On 04/18/97, Godwin wrote: >I think Openwrite might fit the bill.. you can ftp demo from lighthouse.com > Oh dear, I'm going to disagree with Godwin again! :-) Personally, whilst I agree that OpenWrite is fine in its own way, I don't find it as elegant as the other options -- for straightforward word processing I'd prefer WriteUp. Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Auto-display a TIFF? Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 15:02:52 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970420145740.31657A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <ukv67xhptjv.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <ukv67xhptjv.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu wrote: > > Is there any program that could be run, e.g., from a shell, that would > simply display a TIFF image? What I'm imagining is something like: > > killzone:12# showtiff /test.tiff > > ...and about a second later the greyscale TIFF is displayed in my > workspace somewhere, and I have a new shell prompt. > > In short, I want a command-line slide-show program, I believe, but not really, > because I just want to show the same image over and over again, but not have > one window for each image, but instead one window for all images. > > (If you're curious, I've got a QuickCam hooked up to a Mac in another room, > and it's taking pictures every 10 seconds and saving them as TIFFs. The > volume is aps-mounted via CAP to my 3.2 mono black slab. I want to run a cron > job that'll cexecute a script that checks to make sure that directory is > mounted, and if so, display the latest image the QC's grabbed.) > > Thanks much! > > NOTE: There's antispam-fodder in my From: line. You can figure out what > to remove, I'm sure. :) > > -- For starters you could try to choose 'Contents' in the the WorkSpace's inspector, while the image is selected. It will show you a smaller version of the image. Hitting Command+Shift+u (i.e. Command+U) should update the image. In addition, the content of the image 'should' get updated automatically after the same time as all the viewers in the Workspace. But I am not quite sure about that (one problem would be if the image file was very large - the you'd have to recomfirm that you really wanna preview it). Just thought that this could be a good start before you find exactly what you need. Good luck. Rudy blazek@stt.msu.edu
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bibliography software? Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 12:56:30 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970420125516.12895L-100000@kira> References: <E8wI2D.80u@midway.uchicago.edu> <5jbnsj$31i@uuneo.neosoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Robert B. Love" <rlove@neosoft.com> cc: bryce@cleopatra.rh.uchicago.edu In-Reply-To: <5jbnsj$31i@uuneo.neosoft.com> Bibliography.app can be found here: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Text/tex/apps/Bibliography.1.2a.NIHS.b.tar.gz in case you didn't know, as I didn't TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Questions asked in crossposted messages should not be answered. Read http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for a Primer on NeXT w/ PPP over Modem Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 12:37:28 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970420123457.12895K-100000@kira> References: <3353A21C.44478FB6@ispn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: dustinb@ispn.com In-Reply-To: <3353A21C.44478FB6@ispn.com> > I recently acquired a black NeXT cube (motorola 030) with NeXT OS v2.0. Wow. Where'd you find that? > It's amazing what it does on an 030. But it's kind of an island, since > it's not connected to a LAN. Can anyone point me to some information > that will help me figure out how to install a modem, configure PPP > software and login to the Internet via a script (CLI) or PAP? I don't know of any PPP software for < 3.x You might have to upgrade to 3.2 or 3.3 if possible... that will slow down the cube noticeably since it is an 030 Sorry I can't give more positive help, but I just don't know if this is possible... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Questions asked in crossposted messages should not be answered. Read http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: a2ps -- Anybody built it for NeXT?? Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 13:08:13 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970420130739.12895N-100000@kira> References: <5jc0jk$ahv@uuneo.neosoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Robert B. Love" <rlove@neosoft.com> In-Reply-To: <5jc0jk$ahv@uuneo.neosoft.com> Does it not compile under NS or do you just not have access to a dev NeXT? TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Questions asked in crossposted messages should not be answered. Read http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Would Old FrameMaker Win license work? Date: 20 Apr 1997 23:02:53 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5je7at$hsk$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hello all, I just went bargain hunting earlier at a computer warehouse.. (For those in Vancouver BC it is on Grandview highway and they do have some OLD stuff.. (they actually have some working ST 506 HDs! but hey that's half the fun) and came across an old Framemaker for Windows 4 still sealed in a box but dusty tho.. so it got me thinking would I be able to get Adobe or Omni or Lighthouse to transfer the license to NS Frame 3.2? What is the procedure??? They are asking for $80 bucks for that thing.. it is just not a software I would like to run particularly on Windows (especially it seems to be only in 16 bit!).. but adobe to okay me to give me a new license and NS binaries or if I can get that license to work with NS.. I would gladly get it.. Experiences? Comments?? Thanks, Godwin
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From: jin@ghost.nuri.net (Jin Ko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PD initialization Date: 21 Apr 1997 05:09:35 GMT Organization: HanNuri Internet Service Message-ID: <5jesqf$rh5$1@news.nuri.net> Keywords: PD I use Panasonic PD drive with OPENSTEP4.1 on my ThinkPad560. I use SlimSCSI as SCSI adapter. I could read and write with Panasonic(Matsushita) PD cartridge which pre-formated as DOS file system in Windows95. But, when I tried to initialize the PD cartridge as NeXT file system with Workspace Manager's Disk/initialize menu, it was aborted with error message "Disk unusable. (I/O error)". WM could recognize the size of disk and that the disk is Matsushita PD. But, when it tried to write the lable to the disk, it failed. How can I initialize the PD as NeXT file system in OPENSTEP ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mailto:jin@nuri.net Jin Ko http://ghost.nuri.net/ Network Engineering Team phone:+82-2-531-7924 (fax:+82-2-555-8127) Inet, Inc.
From: max@no-spam.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fat binary stripper Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 23:05:38 -0700 Organization: Maxgraphic Message-ID: <max-2004972305390001@blv-pm110-ip21.halcyon.com> Having given up trying to find a Chess app, I'm now looking around for a way to strip the unused, fatty binaries from my NeXTstation's meager 105 megs. Is this possible? Seems like apps would be considerably smaller with only the N component. Thanks. -- Max Pinton, max at maxgraphic dot com Maxgraphic Digital Portfolio, http://www.maxgraphic.com
From: wscomalo@win.tue.nl (Malo Hautus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processors and DTP Date: 21 Apr 1997 08:05:08 GMT Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Message-ID: <5jf73k$6sj@svin12.win.tue.nl> References: <5ive5l$6c1@pilot.njin.net> <5j860h$5t6$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5jdnta$jke$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> I am interested in a word processor with good importing and exporting facilities (in particular, Word and WordPerfect), so that I can survive in a NeXTless environment. From the description, it seems that Openwrite satisfies these requirements, and the demo version worked OK, but I find it difficult to get more information about the program (like how expensive it is), because their webpages are full of Java. What is the best source of in information now? (Being from Europe, a 1-800- telephone number is no good for me). Malo --- __________________________________________________ Malo Hautus Department of Mathematics and Computing Science Eindhoven University of Technology P.O. Box 513 5600 MB Eindhoven | Tel. +31 40 247 26 28 | NeXT and Mime mail The Netherlands | Fax. +31 40 244 24 89 | accepted
From: harts@knoware.nl (Paul Harts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ? email address problem Date: 21 Apr 1997 09:33:37 GMT Organization: Knoware Internet Message-ID: <5jfc9h$24k@news.knoware.nl> Hi, I run NS 3.3 on a black turbo color station. The machine name is (boring) paulharts. My email name is harts. Every time I send mail to people, the From field reads: From: Paul Harts <harts@localhost.paulharts.knoware.nl> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Knoware is my service provider. Can anyone tell me what I have to change in order to get rid of the "localhost.paulharts" in the from field? Receiving replies is no problem, since that will be taken care for in the `reply to' field of the mail app. Thanks, Paul. -- ==================================================== | harts@knoware.nl | ' What's a FAQ?' | | the Netherlands | probably is one | | NeXTmail Welcomed! | | ====================================================
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From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for chess Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 23:54:31 -0400 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <33599377.4EC2@smart.net> References: <max-1604972024080001@blv-pm107-ip1.halcyon.com> <mitchell.allen-1704972301540001@165.cincinnati-001.oh.dial-access.att.net> <max-1804971051100001@blv-pm111-ip17.halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Max Pinton <max@no-spam.com> > > > I'm trying to find a free/shareware chess app for NS 3.0 Moto. I found one > > > on Peanuts, but it was source only. > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction? Try ftp://caissa.onenet.net/pub/chess/NeXT/ There are two chess apps in that directory along with a checkers app and a chinese checkers app. One of the chess apps is NeXTICS which is an interface to the Internet Chess Server. Once connected to the server, you can play against other human oppenents who are connected, or play against some of the computer programs that are logged on. The other chess app is NeXTchess which is GNUchess with a NeXT interface. These worked with NS 3.2, I don't know if they are compatible with NS 3.0. --gh
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From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 4.0 vs 4.1 Openstep Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 10:41:35 +0200 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <335B283F.794B@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5j5t48$eqh$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Michopoulos wrote: > > 1. Is it worth ordering 4.1 ? no, 4.2 will be out soon. > What does it (4.1) contain more than 4.0? it contains less (bugs) > 2. Are NeXTSTEP 3.3 Apps still runnable under Openstep 4.0? yes, 4.2 will be the final release before Rhapsody, which is able to run OpenStep and NEXTStep Apps. Rhapsody will run OpenStep and Mac Apps, no more NeXTStep Apps. (Or have anybody out there another information) > 3. Is there something that I have to be aware (other than the release > notes) before I upgrade from NS 3.3 to OS 4.0or1 ? If your machine is in a NIS Cluster, have a look at the ReleaseNotes of looupd. Still lookupd is buggy (netgroups) in 4.1 and will be fixed in 4.2. Stefan ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processors and DTP Date: 21 Apr 1997 08:52:25 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5jf9s9$c1u$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5ive5l$6c1@pilot.njin.net> <5j860h$5t6$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5jdnta$jke$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5jf73k$6sj@svin12.win.tue.nl> Since you are in europe the best person to talk to would be malcolm malcolm@plsys.co.uk I think his company sells NeXTSTEP solutions.. I think they are based on in Amersham (one of the want-to-dos when I drop in England is to see how they look like;-) It is not the Netherland but worse come to worse you can always hop onto the ferry and head over;-) Godwin Malo Hautus (wscomalo@win.tue.nl) wrote: : I am interested in a word processor with good importing and exporting : facilities (in particular, Word and WordPerfect), so that I can survive in a : NeXTless environment. From the description, it seems that Openwrite satisfies : these requirements, and the demo version worked OK, but I find it difficult : to get more information about the program (like how expensive it is), because : their webpages are full of Java. What is the best source of in information : now? (Being from Europe, a 1-800- telephone number is no good for me). : Malo : --- : __________________________________________________ : Malo Hautus : Department of Mathematics and Computing Science : Eindhoven University of Technology : P.O. Box 513 : 5600 MB Eindhoven | Tel. +31 40 247 26 28 | NeXT and Mime mail : The Netherlands | Fax. +31 40 244 24 89 | accepted
From: Sam <sam@kuodesign.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 2 Question Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 14:13:22 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <335BBC53.6F8E@kuodesign.com> References: <334456C2.38F4@kuodesign.com> <01bc41c2$86f698a0$c2c8dbc2@dummy.forthnet.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nassos Giannopoulos wrote: -------------snip---------- Before I end can you > please tell where I can find (buy) the NextWorld magazine, because I have > been trying for some time find it unsuccessfully. Thanks :-) > NextWorld went out of print several years ago. Couldn't tell you how to get ahold of any sorry. Sam -- |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||\\\ /|||\ ==\ ||||||||||||||||\\\ What does one call a Philipino contortionist? A Manila Folder. http://www.kuodesign.com
From: gjvo@xs4all.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processors and DTP Date: 21 Apr 1997 18:50:06 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <5jgcsu$69v$1@news1.xs4all.nl> References: <5ive5l$6c1@pilot.njin.net> <5j860h$5t6$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5jdnta$jke$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5jf73k$6sj@svin12.win.tue.nl> wscomalo@win.tue.nl (Malo Hautus) wrote: >I am interested in a word processor with good importing and exporting >facilities (in particular, Word and WordPerfect), so that I can survive in a >NeXTless environment. I bought OpenWrite for this purpose, and I must say that I would hasitate to call the importing & exporting facilities "good". Maybe it's just me, but I have been unable to export my reports to wordperfect 5.1 format. On another document OpenWrite just crashes. One lost document. I'd advice you to get something more stable and supported. -- Geert Jan van Oldenborgh work: oldenbor@knmi.nl else: gjvo@xs4all.nl web: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gjvo
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Auto-display a TIFF? Date: 21 Apr 1997 19:04:28 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5jgdns$9fp@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> References: <ukv67xhptjv.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> In article <ukv67xhptjv.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu writes: > >Is there any program that could be run, e.g., from a shell, that would >simply display a TIFF image? What I'm imagining is something like: > >killzone:12# showtiff /test.tiff > >...and about a second later the greyscale TIFF is displayed in my >workspace somewhere, and I have a new shell prompt. > Yes, such a piece of code does indeed exist. It is called tiffview and is included in Bill Spitzak's hackkit. The hackkit is a really cool set of low level C and postscript stuff for NS. Look for it at your local NS ftp site. >In short, I want a command-line slide-show program, I believe, but not really, >because I just want to show the same image over and over again, but not have >one window for each image, but instead one window for all images. > >(If you're curious, I've got a QuickCam hooked up to a Mac in another room, >and it's taking pictures every 10 seconds and saving them as TIFFs. The >volume is aps-mounted via CAP to my 3.2 mono black slab. I want to run a cron >job that'll cexecute a script that checks to make sure that directory is >mounted, and if so, display the latest image the QC's grabbed.) > snip Cool! -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: max@no-spam.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for chess Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 12:36:29 -0700 Organization: Maxgraphic Message-ID: <max-2104971236290001@blv-pm103-ip2.halcyon.com> References: <max-1604972024080001@blv-pm107-ip1.halcyon.com> <mitchell.allen-1704972301540001@165.cincinnati-001.oh.dial-access.att.net> <max-1804971051100001@blv-pm111-ip17.halcyon.com> <33599377.4EC2@smart.net> In article <33599377.4EC2@smart.net>, gh@smart.net wrote: > > > > I'm trying to find a free/shareware chess app for NS 3.0 Moto. I found one > > > > on Peanuts, but it was source only. > > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > Try ftp://caissa.onenet.net/pub/chess/NeXT/ > There are two chess apps in that directory along with > a checkers app and a chinese checkers app. One of the > chess apps is NeXTICS which is an interface to the Internet > Chess Server. Once connected to the server, you can play > against other human oppenents who are connected, or play > against some of the computer programs that are logged on. > The other chess app is NeXTchess which is GNUchess with > a NeXT interface. These worked with NS 3.2, I don't know > if they are compatible with NS 3.0. > > --gh Hmm. I tried downloading GNUchess, but it looks like source only. Thanks anyway, though. -- Max Pinton, max at maxgraphic dot com Maxgraphic Digital Portfolio, http://www.maxgraphic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Fat binary stripper Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E8zs3u.KL@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 14:26:18 GMT References: <max-2004972305390001@blv-pm110-ip21.halcyon.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <max-2004972305390001@blv-pm110-ip21.halcyon.com>, Max Pinton <max@no-spam.com> wrote: >Having given up trying to find a Chess app, I'm now looking around for a >way to strip the unused, fatty binaries from my NeXTstation's meager 105 >megs. Is this possible? Seems like apps would be considerably smaller with >only the N component. > Check out the man page for lipo. Or, if you want a GUI, look on Peak for MetroSuction. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 15:11:35 -0600 From: Thomas McCarthy <tmccarth@usc.edu> Subject: NEXTSTEP software reviews on-line Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <861652041.2018@dejanews.com> Organization: University of Southern California Considering how many new NEXTSTEP users there are (thanks to the Apple buyout and the current flood of cheap NeXT systems), I thought it would be a good idea to start writing reviews of NEXTSTEP apps (both third-party and bundled) so new users can make the most out of their machines. I have added this to my "Intro to NEXTSTEP" (which is still available); you can find it at: http://www3.pair.com/mccarthy/nextstep/ Right now, there is only one review (LaunchBar), but I will add more as I can, and I ask that any NEXTSTEP users who are interested in contributing some reviews contact me at tmccarth@usc.edu. Tom --- Thomas McCarthy tmccarth@usc.edu (No NeXTmail) -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WebObjects on Windows NT Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:57:12 -0400 Organization: University At Buffalo Message-ID: <335BE2B8.7067@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Hi: I have a Windows NT Workstation 4.0 machine with Microsoft Peer Web services installed on it. I recently purchased the book "Objects on the Web" that has WebObjects 2.0 Beta included on a CD-ROM on it. However, installing that gave me an error and non of the examples (Hello World etc.) run! It gives me "Object Not Found" Can anyone please shed some light on this? Do I need a different Web server? Thanks. -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: 4.0 vs 4.1 Openstep Message-ID: <E8zJou.7t0@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5j5t48$eqh$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 11:24:29 GMT In article <5j5t48$eqh$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) writes: > > When I order some upgrades from NeXTSTEP 3.3 to Openstep 4.0 I had not > realized that 4.1 Would come up so soon. > > I did not proceed to the actual upgrades and now that my 3.3 is corrupt > I am considering going to 4.0 OS (on Black Hardware). > > So the following questions came up? > > 1. Is it worth ordering 4.1 ? What does it contain more than 4.0? Plenty'o bug fixes to the developer stuff. I'm rather furious that they dared to take money for OS 4.0 Dev, anyway, since it is close to unusable with all those bugs. > 2. Are NeXTSTEP 3.3 Apps still runnable under Openstep 4.0? Of course, yes! > 3. Is there something that I have to be aware (other than the release > notes) before I upgrade from NS 3.3 to OS 4.0or1 ? > Same as any other upgrade, AFAIK. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP! Date: Tue, 22 Apr 97 00:18:47 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Message-ID: <5jh063$3qv@news.jump.net> Needed: Assistance in (de)configuring a NeXT. Bought a used NeXT box and it is trying to start a whole mess of network processes that I DON'T WANT TO START. Anybody tell me how to deconfigure these options? Matt please reply to mseibert@ita1.inow.com, news sux from here
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: realaudio for NS? Date: 22 Apr 1997 00:12:50 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Apr 1997 00:12:50 GMT Does anyone know of the availability of Realaudio for NS? At one time, I thought I saw the source(?) but now that I got brave to try compiling it, I don't find it. I would really prefer the binaries for m68k ;-) Stephen
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP!!! HELP!!! HELP!!! Date: 22 Apr 1997 00:19:50 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5jh076$gd7@news.tamu.edu> References: <5ij800$kv1@news.acns.nwu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Apr 1997 00:19:50 GMT In-Reply-To: <5ij800$kv1@news.acns.nwu.edu> On 04/10/97, daj@nwu.edu wrote: >I have a very serious problem that I need help with. > >I have a Jaz disk that had files moved from it onto another disk (using the next window GUI move command). I want to recover the data fromm the original Jaz disk. Unfortunately the disk the data was moved onto was destroyed. The Jaz disk is intact and hasn't had anything done to it since the data was moved off (no read or writes). Is there any way this can be done? Can I do it myself or is there a service that I can send the disk to to have it recovered? If a service is the way to go, are there any recommendations? > >PLEASE HELP!! Of course I need the data recovered yesterday! > >Thank's in advance, > > > >David A. Johnson > Here are a list of companies to whom I have talked about recovering data. DriveSavers are expensive but might be the best bet. I tried Lazarus and CBL. I would not recommend CBL for NEXTSTEP especially and in general their customer service was not very good. Data Recovery Labs (813) 725-3818 Phone (813) 725-8510 Fax datareclab@aol.com $100 eval. - recovery ~$500-$1200 Data Recovery Services, Inc. ? Vantage 1-800-487-5678 (603) 883-6249 FAX: (603) 883-1973 recovery@vantagetech.com $250 eval. fee CBL 1-800-551-3917 590 Alden Rd., Unit 105, Markham, Ontario, Canada L3R 8N2 (905) 479-9938, Fax: (905) 479-1515 $100/hr 2-4hrs wk Unix DriveSavers (800) 440-1904 415-883-4232 FAX (415) 883-0780 E-Mail: DriveSaver@aol.com NEXTSTEP Lazarus 381 Clementina Street San Francisco, CA 94103 800-341-DATA 415-495-5553 fax
From: max@no-spam.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fat binary stripper Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 17:14:09 -0700 Organization: Maxgraphic Message-ID: <max-2104971714090001@blv-pm110-ip17.halcyon.com> References: <max-2004972305390001@blv-pm110-ip21.halcyon.com> <E8zs3u.KL@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In article <E8zs3u.KL@novice.uwaterloo.ca>, dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > In article <max-2004972305390001@blv-pm110-ip21.halcyon.com>, > Max Pinton <max@no-spam.com> wrote: > >Having given up trying to find a Chess app, I'm now looking around for a > >way to strip the unused, fatty binaries from my NeXTstation's meager 105 > >megs. Is this possible? Seems like apps would be considerably smaller with > >only the N component. > > > > Check out the man page for lipo. Or, if you want a GUI, look on Peak for > MetroSuction. > > -- > David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca > Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ > University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer > Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual Ah, bummer. MetroSuction requires 3.1 or higher. I guess lipo isn't part of 3.0, either, since I don't have it. I guess it's time to upgrade ... do you suppose that, since Apple's in charge, they might lower the price of the 3.3 upgrade? I'd be unhappy spending more on 3.3 than I paid for the NeXTstation itself. -- Max Pinton, max at maxgraphic dot com Maxgraphic Digital Portfolio, http://www.maxgraphic.com
From: jin@ghost.nuri.net (Jin Ko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Re] e-mail address Date: 22 Apr 1997 00:51:51 GMT Organization: HanNuri Internet Service Message-ID: <5jh237$erq$1@news.nuri.net> If you're using Berkeley sendmail -- I recommend you to upgrade to Berkeley sendmail8.8.5 if you're not using it -- just add the line to your /etc/sendmail.cf ########## # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) (see also $=M) DMknoware.nl ########## It should be at its proper location. (fields of lines which start with "D") I hope that it'll work in NeXT native sendmail. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mailto:jin@nuri.net Jin Ko http://ghost.nuri.net/ Network Engineering Team phone:+82-2-531-7924 (fax:+82-2-555-8127) Inet, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu Subject: Reversing palette on TIFF? Message-ID: <ukvu3kz66ir.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 04:11:40 GMT Ok folks, thanks for all the help so far (I'm now using viewtiff from the hackkit, and the script's almost done). However, viewtiff seems to want to display the TIFF in an inverse. Don't ask me why. Anyway, instead of trying to rewrite the source (which looks a lot like greek to me, and I am an experienced C programmer. *shudder*), I was wondering if anyone knew of a program that'd simply invert the palette of a TIFF greyscale image? Thanks much! -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: realaudio for NS? Date: 22 Apr 1997 04:56:44 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5jhgec$10j$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> I think Frank @ www.this.net has done something along these lines. Check his page out there are alot of cool stuff there! Godwin Stephen Johnson (stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know of the availability of Realaudio for NS? At one time, : I thought I saw the source(?) but now that I got brave to try : compiling it, I don't find it. : I would really prefer the binaries for m68k ;-) : Stephen
From: Ryan Watkins <vamp@vamp.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help!! Next server Date: 21 Apr 1997 22:30:29 -0700 Message-ID: <x6912bhbey.fsf@zero.dimensionx.com> References: <5hfr1b$5ab$1@kelp.mbay.net> <E7x7wB.2KC@nidat.sub.org> <334213E0.2981@mysolution.com> Tommy Hwang <me@mysolution.com> writes: > Apache works great on NeXT, the old CERN Httpd and there is another > even older httpd software that Apache was originally derived can also be > used on NeXT. The Apache server was based on the NCSA server, which came after the one at CERN I believe. > I had CERN, but Apache is far better, IMHO, except for the web > server logs. CERN httpd creates a log for each date and name it > accordingly, but Apache does not. This can be done with Apache as well with a log rotating cron job (and the restart the server), or piping the log output to a process that rotates the logs nightly on its own. Apache is extremely configurable and featureful. -- Ryan L. Watkins "Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' Web Overlord label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad vamp@dimensionx.com old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance www.dimensionx.com of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network." - Tim Berners-Lee
From: garyc@filoli.com (Gary I. Chang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help with running Kaffe 0.8.4 Date: 22 Apr 1997 07:03:31 GMT Message-ID: <5jhns3$kvu$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> I just installed Kaffe 0.8.4 on my Black machine running NS3.3, but was having problem running both the intrepeter and the compiler. The error message I got was: # kaffe HelloWorldApp.java java.lang.NullPointerException # javac HelloWorldApp.java java.lang.NullPointerException # I have the following lines added to my .cshrc #added for Kaffe setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH /lib:/usr/lib:/usr/local/share/kaffe/lib setenv CLASSPATH .:/usr/local/share/kaffe/classes.zip setenv KAFFEHOME /usr/local/share/kaffe setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH /usr/local/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH Both ./configure and make (install) ran sucessfully. What did I miss? Gary
From: chaney@earthlink.net (Evan Chaney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Developers Coalition Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:10:42 -0500 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <chaney-2104971810420001@cust107.max12.kansas-city.mo.ms.uu.net> Has anyone here heard about the Developers Coalition? -- Evan Chaney chaney@earthlink.net http://evanville.home.ml.org
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From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 4.0 vs 4.1 Openstep Date: 22 Apr 1997 10:19:25 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5ji3bd$ape$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5j5t48$eqh$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <335B283F.794B@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> In-Reply-To: <335B283F.794B@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> On 04/21/97, Stefan Ried wrote: >John Michopoulos wrote: >> 1. Is it worth ordering 4.1 ? >no, 4.2 will be out soon. > Seconded. >> What does it (4.1) contain more than 4.0? >it contains less (bugs) > Definitely. And it's faster. >> 2. Are NeXTSTEP 3.3 Apps still runnable under Openstep 4.0? >yes, 4.2 will be the final release before Rhapsody, which is able to run >OpenStep and NEXTStep Apps. Rhapsody will run OpenStep and Mac Apps, no >more NeXTStep Apps. (Or have anybody out there another information) > I can see no way in which NEXTSTEP apps would run on Rhapsody on PPC. Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: JOSE ANTONIO GOMEZ MUÑOZ <jgomez@aq.upm.es> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RockRidge CDROM Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 13:30:43 +0200 Organization: ESCUELA DE ARQUITECTURA (U.P.M.) Message-ID: <335CA162.4C2E@aq.upm.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have a problem with CDROM's in rockRidge format when I use them in windows NT 4. I have got Linux collection in this format. When I read from windows NT the system cuts the named of the file, so it isn't the true name, it doesn't work. Is there anyone that know how can I see these CDROM's in good format ? Thanks very much. Please send me mail:jgomez@aq.upm.es
From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IRC for Next Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 13:55:11 +0000 Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970422135334.18884A-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there, i would like to know the latest version of the Encircle IRC Client. Also i would like to know if there is an other GUI Client available for NextStep. Regards Konstantin Wiesel Email:kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 07:11:20 -0600 From: Tom Guyette <tguyette@is.com> Subject: Intel 3.3 SerialPort driver recognizes a 16550 when a 16650 is present Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <861710199.3532@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service I recently purchased a serial card from ByteRunner (actually made in Taiwan) on which I got a 16650 hoping to improve my multitasking ability. I am running 3.3 and I have the latest Next drivers installed - ISA/EISA Bus Support(v3.35) SerialPort(v3.33) TTY Port Server(v3.33) Although the SerialPort driver's documentation does say that it automatically detects the 16650, on my system it DOES NOT. It says that a 16550 is detected with fifo=16 bytes!! I asked next and they said to try downloading the latest drivers which I did and the results didn't change. I booted in DOS and ran a program that detects the UART and it saw a 16650 alright!! Any suggestions how to get this guy to work? Does anyone have the same problem? Tom -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: PGP Message-ID: <E91ow3.7q5@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid References: <5j859o$ebd@picayune.uark.edu> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 15:12:03 GMT You can find PGP 2.6.3i @ ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next/PGP -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt."
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fat binary stripper Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 19:03:29 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970421190110.1213A-100000@kira> References: <max-2004972305390001@blv-pm110-ip21.halcyon.com> <E8zs3u.KL@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <max-2104971714090001@blv-pm110-ip17.halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <max-2104971714090001@blv-pm110-ip17.halcyon.com> On Mon, 21 Apr 1997, Max Pinton wrote: > Ah, bummer. MetroSuction requires 3.1 or higher. I guess lipo isn't part > of 3.0, either, since I don't have it. > > I guess it's time to upgrade ... do you suppose that, since Apple's in > charge, they might lower the price of the 3.3 upgrade? I'd be unhappy > spending more on 3.3 than I paid for the NeXTstation itself. I doubt that Apple will do anything about anything related to NeXTStep OpenStep 4.2 might be better priced, but probably not good for NeXT hardware unless you can go 64+ ram 3.2 would be fine for 80% of the stuff you probably want to do, unless you want to compile quadfat apps, which isn't much of a need anymore unless you plan on writtng NeXTStep apps, which I don't think many people do TjL
Date: 22 Apr 1997 12:16:36 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <cancel.199704221015.DAA28922@web1.zzz.com> Control: cancel <199704221015.DAA28922@web1.zzz.com> From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: <GodlovesYOU@riverbed.org> Subject: cmsg cancel <199704221015.DAA28922@web1.zzz.com> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970422.24 for further details
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS April Quiz - last call + 2 more hints ! Date: 22 Apr 1997 19:24:14 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5jj38u$c56@peng.ping.at> Dear NEXTSTEP community, last call (!) for the SSS April quiz on http://members.ping.at/stefan/quiz.html If you haven't participated yet, hurry! Deadline is May 1. Don't spoil your chance to win a free HelpViewer 1.3 or LatinByrd II license! Here's TWO MORE HINTS: 1) Q#1 reads "What's wrong this time"? Well, frankly, there's nothing really "wrong" with the picture. It's a still life - consisting of nothing but dead stone, dead sand, trees, and the sky. But in fact, there's something present which somehow doesn't fit. Note: SSS officially apologies for the sillyness of this photo. ;-) Just a picture shot in holiday mood... 2) Q#2 reads "At which ancient greek site has this photo been shot"? And a further hint contained in the web page says that this ancient site would be in the sports news every 4th summer. C'mon... that's an easy one! Note that it's not required to name the exact location of the temple (or whatever it might be) depicted in the image - the name of the ancient site/town will suffice. And BTW it's *NOT* the place where the ancient Greek Gods live! (Although the name is similar.) Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://members.ping.at/stefan/
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 4.0 vs 4.1 Openstep Date: 22 Apr 1997 19:45:47 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5jj4hb$n53$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5j5t48$eqh$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <335B283F.794B@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> <5ji3bd$ape$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5ji3bd$ape$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> On 04/22/97, mmalcolm crawford wrote: >On 04/21/97, Stefan Ried wrote: >>John Michopoulos wrote: >>> 1. Is it worth ordering 4.1 ? >>no, 4.2 will be out soon. >> >Seconded. > >>> What does it (4.1) contain more than 4.0? >>it contains less (bugs) >> >Definitely. And it's faster. > >>> 2. Are NeXTSTEP 3.3 Apps still runnable under Openstep 4.0? >>yes, 4.2 will be the final release before Rhapsody, which is able to run >>OpenStep and NEXTStep Apps. Rhapsody will run OpenStep and Mac Apps, no >>more NeXTStep Apps. (Or have anybody out there another information) >> >I can see no way in which NEXTSTEP apps would run on Rhapsody on PPC. > I can see a way... if Apple also ported the 'legacy libs' that ship with OS 4.1 on Mach... and ran the 68000 code using an emulator. Or maybe in the blue box under Connectixs' Virtual PC... But then again, I'm seeing pink elephants fly past my window right now... I think I'll join them... -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: NEXTTOYOU wants your MailTIFFs Message-ID: <E91x72.JL@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: news@shinto.nbg.sub.org Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member) References: <5j1fva$a22$1@news.digifix.com> <5j3cph$l68$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5j5lbj$222@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 18:11:25 GMT uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote: > gjvo@xs4all.nl wrote: > > Excuse my numbness (it's late) but could someone explain what > > the advantages of the Grand Unified mailTIFF database are over > > the simple X-Image-URL header? > > There are two important advantages: > > 1. X-Image-URL works fine for people with a persistant connection to the > internet. However, if you access the internet from home via PPP and a > phone line, you most probably won't read your mail while being online. > In this case, X-Image-URL doesn't work. > I personally like the idea of X-Image-URL...even for news it would be a good idea. The currently problem is that the Image URL stuff is limited to direct access. Now IMHO it would be a really nice addition to the Enhance Mail Bundle to support some kind of "Maintain list of Image-URLs to be fetched". 1. If a fetch fails (becasue of no PPP) 2. .. or if you don't want to have your PPP connection actived just ot fetch an image the image fetch could simple add the current URL to a "YetToBeFetched" file. An additional button ("Fetch missing X-Images") could trigger a bulk fetch. This should be quite simple. > 2. For X-Image-URL to work, *both sides* of the communication chain need to > be equipped with it. The MailTIFF database, however, works with just the > email address so it doesn't matter if the other side is equipped with the ... Yes..there are many Mailers where you just can't add custom Headers so that e.g. Mac users really can't post an X-Image-URL..even if they wanted. The mailTIFF apporach sure has its benefits in some situations...but still the X-Image-URL approach is a very nice one...especially for us NeXT crowds (once the "batch mode is part of EnhacneMail things should be even more useful") Aloha Tomi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Re: Q: animation of renderman Message-ID: <E91xBF.KB@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: news@shinto.nbg.sub.org Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member) References: <5itl1s$10dm@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 18:14:03 GMT deutsch@io.bota.uni-bonn.de (Andreas Deutsch) wrote: > > Hi folks, > > is it possible to animate renderman? In particular, I'm looking for a > possibilty to visualize sequences of *.rib files. > Check out WavesWorld. Its somewhere on ftp.MIT.edu (?) Search for it with Altewiste or some of these tools. Btw.. RenderMan is about rendering images....many images give an animation. It basically don't know what you are trying to do...maybe you should be more explicit about the problem you have. Aloha Tomi P.S. there is comp.graphics.rendering.renderman too
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: HELP! Message-ID: <E91GLq.83w@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5jh063$3qv@news.jump.net> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:13:02 GMT In article <5jh063$3qv@news.jump.net> mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) writes: > Needed: > Assistance in (de)configuring a NeXT. Bought a used NeXT box > and it is > trying to start a whole mess of network processes that I DON'T > WANT TO START. Anybody tell me how to deconfigure these options? > In case this is just about the FAQ on "How do I get a NEXTSTEP system into a pristine configuration?" refer to the FAQ on Peanuts (or any mirror of that archive). In case this is intended to be the more educated question on how to disable certain unwanted network options, there are some hints in the online Sysadmin Manual on the more NEXTSTEP specific things. And you'll find the basic network setup being done in the '/etc/rc'-files (most likely your feature is started in /etc/rc.net). In addition, less frequently used network services are provided through the 'inetd' deamon (the standard BSD way). The type of servers it is able to locate and spawn is configured by means of the 'inetd.conf' table in /etc. Hope this helps for a starter. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: "Greg Shaw" <gshaw@zeta.org.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ? email address problem Date: 22 Apr 1997 20:56:03 GMT Organization: Decisionware Message-ID: <01bc4f5f$c27f95c0$87506fcb@decisionware> References: <5jfc9h$24k@news.knoware.nl> Paul Harts <harts@knoware.nl> wrote in article <5jfc9h$24k@news.knoware.nl>... > > Hi, > > I run NS 3.3 on a black turbo color station. > The machine name is (boring) paulharts. My email name is harts. Every time I send mail > to people, the From field reads: > From: Paul Harts <harts@localhost.paulharts.knoware.nl> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Knoware is my service provider. > > Can anyone tell me what I have to change in order to get rid of the "localhost.paulharts" > in the from field? > > Receiving replies is no problem, since that will be taken care for in the `reply to' field of > the mail app. > > Thanks, > > Paul. Paul, There is no need to modify sendmail.cf. Mail.app also has the facility for masquerading. In Mail.app preferences there is an option for other names for self. Change this and you should be fine. Cheers, Greg Shaw.
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From: Radmilo Bozinovic <rasha@suc.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT and Apple OneScanner Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 14:25:04 -0700 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <335D2CB0.2DF5@suc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I want to use an Apple OneScanner (b/w) with a NeXT box. What are the drivers I need and where can I find them? Please send any answers also to the address below. Thanks, -Radmilo Bozinovic rasha@suc.org
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From: ihate@spammers.com (bf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: renderman? Date: 23 Apr 1997 01:44:08 GMT Organization: Crack Whores of America Message-ID: <5jjph8$d4m$1@brokaw.wa.com> i heard that at one time renderman was included with NS. Anyone know what versions this was on? im running 3.3/3.2 and i dont see it anywhere :) -b -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.halcyon.com/larryf/ -- Email: larryf at halcyon dot com ----------------------------------------------------- --NOTE: Email address in header is fake due to spam-- --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MAKE? Date: Wed, 23 Apr 97 03:07:05 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Message-ID: <5jjudr$ilf@news.jump.net> Trying to compile some source on a "new-to-me" NeXT Turbo, and get the following error: Make: Cannot open /NextDeveloper/Makefiles/app/app.make. Stop. I imagine this means I'm missing something. Now the question is what and where would I get it? Matt please reply to mseibert@ita1.inow.com, news sux from here
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MAKE? Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:14:27 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970422201323.19623B-100000@kira> References: <5jjudr$ilf@news.jump.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Matt Seibert <mseibert@ita1.inow.com> In-Reply-To: <5jjudr$ilf@news.jump.net> Did you purcahse the developer system, or just the user? The user does not come with the necessary header files to compile programs. TjL
From: lhow@ecr.mu.oz.au (Luke HOWARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 4.0 vs 4.1 Openstep Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 23 Apr 1997 05:13:45 GMT Organization: Comp Sci, University of Melbourne Message-ID: <5jk5q9$4vg@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> References: <5j5t48$eqh$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <335B283F.794B@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> <5ji3bd$ape$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5jj4hb$n53$1@news.digifix.com> : I can see a way... if Apple also ported the 'legacy libs' : that ship with OS 4.1 on Mach... and ran the 68000 code using an : emulator. Being able to NXHost apps would at least let me put a cube in the corner and run those legacy apps :-) -- Luke
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: renderman? Date: 23 Apr 1997 06:12:24 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5jk988$him$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <5jjph8$d4m$1@brokaw.wa.com> ihate@spammers.com (bf) wrote: > i heard that at one time renderman was included with NS. Anyone know > what versions this was on? im running 3.3/3.2 and i dont see it > anywhere :) It was included in all 3.x versions. It is still in OpenStep for Mach 4.x, but without the developer classes (the "3DKit"). Did you look in /usr/prman? Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: NEXTTOYOU wants your MailTIFFs Date: 23 Apr 1997 00:45:03 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5jjm2f$310@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5j1fva$a22$1@news.digifix.com> <5j3cph$l68$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5j5lbj$222@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <E91x72.JL@shinto.nbg.sub.org> tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) wrote: > I personally like the idea of X-Image-URL...even for news it > would be a good idea. The currently problem is that the Image > URL stuff is limited to direct access. Now IMHO it would be a > really nice addition to the Enhance Mail Bundle to support some > kind of "Maintain list of Image-URLs to be fetched". [...] > An additional button ("Fetch missing X-Images") could trigger a bulk fetch. This is a very nice idea, actually. Bye Uli _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@ti.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: NEXTTOYOU wants your MailTIFFs Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 08:50:32 -0500 Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. Message-ID: <335E13A8.40E2@ti.com> References: <5j1fva$a22$1@news.digifix.com> <5j3cph$l68$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5j5lbj$222@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <E91x72.JL@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <5jjm2f$310@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uli Zappe wrote: > > tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) wrote: > > I personally like the idea of X-Image-URL...even for news it > > would be a good idea. The currently problem is that the Image > > URL stuff is limited to direct access. Now IMHO it would be a > > really nice addition to the Enhance Mail Bundle to support some > > kind of "Maintain list of Image-URLs to be fetched". > [...] > > An additional button ("Fetch missing X-Images") could trigger a bulk fetch. > > This is a very nice idea, actually. I totally agree. However, it would also be nice if there was an option to do this via an http or ftp proxy. I live behind a firewall and all fetches fail. However, the firewall does have FTP and HTTP proxies. - Steve
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: mp2 for NeXTstep 3.2?????? Date: 23 Apr 1997 13:20:48 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <5jl2bg$3rk$1@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <E8MJA5.3B5@cam-ani.co.uk> ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) writes: > I did some of the work on the NeXT port of maplay, and at the time we > found it to be slow on 68K machines, such that the sound breaks up. And I did the other bit of the work - if you want a CLI App that runs on Intel (and will play to a Black NeXT to get sound out) then it works fine. Other than that I recommend the new MMP.app which does it all a lot better anyway. The maplay code is old now - and the NeXT port was a bit of a hack in the first place. Having to try and learn C++ was the worst bit :-) If you want the maplay executable then look in: maekong.ohm.york.ac.uk:/pub/pete/maplay.gz which is the executable for the NeXT port. -bat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bngover@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Bradford Gover) Subject: OmniWeb2 under NS3.2? Message-ID: <E93q7x.Dzz@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 17:35:56 GMT Hi there, All of a sudden I find myself responsible for our lab's computers and I'm having trouble installing OmniWeb2.5b6 on our NeXT cube running NEXTSTEP3.2. I haven't been able to find answers to my questions from the omnigroup homepages (OmniWeb 1.0 can't read their FAQ!) so I figured I'd seek out some help from you kind folks. Basically: I downloaded the file "OmniWeb.2.5b6.N.tar", untarred it and it created OmniWeb.app. The icon seems to be updated (with the funky O_2 in the corner) but when I try to launch it, my Console gives me: > Apr 23 13:20:43 Workspace: Cannot exec > /LocalApps/OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb : Bad executable (or shared library) The application does not run, no menus appear or anything... So...question #1: Will OmniWeb2.5b6 run under NS3.2? #2: Am I doing something *really* stupid? (likely :-) #3: How can I get this to work? Any and all help is appreciated! Thanks in advance, Brad Gover
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processors and DTP Date: 23 Apr 1997 18:23:25 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5jlk2t$h5l$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5ive5l$6c1@pilot.njin.net> <5j860h$5t6$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5jdnta$jke$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5jf73k$6sj@svin12.win.tue.nl> <5jf9s9$c1u$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> In-Reply-To: <5jf9s9$c1u$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> On 04/21/97, Godwin wrote: >Since you are in europe the best person to talk to would be malcolm > >malcolm@plsys.co.uk I think his company sells NeXTSTEP solutions. > Yes we do, thanks. > I think they are based on in Amersham (one of the want-to-dos when I > drop in England is to see how they look like;-) > You'd be very welcome! Let me know when you're over. Best wishes, mmalc. Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: finton@phoenix.wisc.edu(David J. Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: p2c source or binary for NS 3.2 Date: 23 Apr 1997 20:41:04 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5jls50$4290@news.doit.wisc.edu> I need to convert some pascal code to C. I'm told that there's a public-domain converter, p2c (or ptoc?). But the only versions I've found so far were HP-specific, and I wasn't sure whether they would work in NEXTSTEP 3.2. Anyone know where to find a NS-friendly version? Thanks! -- David J. Finton "finton at cs dot wisc dot edu" "Simplicity is difficult, not easy. Beauty is simple. All unnecessary elements are removed, only essence remains." ---Alan Hovhaness
From: finton@phoenix.wisc.edu(David J. Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: p2c source or binary for NS 3.2 Date: 23 Apr 1997 21:22:19 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5jluib$4290@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5jls50$4290@news.doit.wisc.edu> I wrote: >I need to convert some pascal code to C. I'm told that there's a >public-domain converter, p2c (or ptoc?). But the only versions I've >found so far were HP-specific, and I wasn't sure whether they would >work in NEXTSTEP 3.2. > >Anyone know where to find a NS-friendly version? I've just found something, but I need help figuring out if it will work. The README says, in part: << P2c was originally developed on a homebrew C compiler on the HP Pascal Workstation operating system. Current development takes place on HP-UX, which is System V based. The translator has also been compiled and used on Sun-3's, so presumably it is fairly portable among 32-bit Unix machines. >> Does this sound like it should work in NS 3.2 on a slab? I don't know whether the NeXTstation is 32-bit or not. The source is available at ftp://csvax.cs.caltech.edu/pub/p2c-1.20.tar.Z, with p2c.README in the same directory. The description is at http://www.ittpub.nl:81/users/wietze/ptf-unix42/0386.0.html, and the index page, "Prime Time Freeware for UNIX, Issue 4-2," is at http://www.ittpub.nl:81/users/wietze/ptf-unix42/1.01.html -- David J. Finton "finton at cs dot wisc dot edu" : spammer protection "Simplicity is difficult, not easy. Beauty is simple. All unnecessary elements are removed, only essence remains." ---Alan Hovhaness
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: realaudio for NS? Date: 23 Apr 1997 20:32:24 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5jlrko$8nu$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> <5jhgec$10j$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5jil29$jn3$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Cc: holger@object-factory.com.NOSPAM In <5jil29$jn3$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Holger Hoffstaette wrote: > The sources for the ** streaming protocol ** have been made > publicly available and run fine - I started RAdio.app when > the RTSP reference implementation came out. Unfortunately, that's > only half the rent: the description for the decoding of the audio > codec is ** still ** proprietary. In other words, you could write > a RAdioStation.app that vends all sorts of interesting things > over the net with the help of the 'standard' RTSP protocol, and > have a RAdio.app that knows how to retrieve these files from the > network stream. However, writing a client that understands the > widely available audio .ram files is next to impossible until > someone hits RealAudio over the head really hard and they release > the spec for the f**** audio codec. > > The solution is to ignore RealAudio until it becomes a *really* > open standard. Holger literally takes the words out of my mouth. I was once thinking about reverse engineering the Real Audio format but, due to potential patent infringement and the enormous amount of work (RA is not only one format but serveral), I decided not to do so and not to support RA. IMHO such a closed format is a bad thing anyway and MPEG I L3 with lower bit rates makes for a very good sound even over modem lines, so let's hope either Progressive Networks, Inc. someday makes the RA format open or MPEG takes over the online world. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
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From: louis@orb.isdn.emory.edu (Louis Leon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: capturing TIFFs from NextTV screen shots Date: 23 Apr 1997 22:01:55 GMT Organization: Emory University Message-ID: <5jm0sj$kco@lendl.cc.emory.edu> I can hookup my NextDimension to the campus cable and watch the Kiosk channel that displays campus events. I would like to capture these and to have them available to my web server. How would I do this and what software would I use? Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: OmniWeb2 under NS3.2? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E93wG2.CC4@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 19:50:25 GMT References: <E93q7x.Dzz@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <E93q7x.Dzz@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca>, Bradford Gover <bngover@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: >Hi there, > >All of a sudden I find myself responsible for our lab's computers and >I'm having trouble installing OmniWeb2.5b6 on our NeXT cube running >NEXTSTEP3.2. I haven't been able to find answers to my questions from the >omnigroup homepages (OmniWeb 1.0 can't read their FAQ!) so I figured I'd >seek out some help from you kind folks. > OmniWeb 2 uses the Foundation Kit, which isn't a part of NeXTSTEP 3.2. Go to NeXTanswers and look for the "FoundationUserPatch". Install this on all your machines and you'll be all set! -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb2 under NS3.2? Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 18:47:14 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970423183753.15236B-100000@kira> References: <E93q7x.Dzz@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca> <E93wG2.CC4@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca>, bngover@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca In-Reply-To: <E93wG2.CC4@novice.uwaterloo.ca> > OmniWeb 2 uses the Foundation Kit, which isn't a part of NeXTSTEP 3.2. Go to > NeXTanswers and look for the "FoundationUserPatch". Install this on all your > machines and you'll be all set! True true... http://www.next.com:80/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/2117.compressed on the other hand, we have it at PEAK using gzip rather than compressed (which is roughly tar.Z), so it is smaller http://www.peak.org/next/apps/utils/patches/FoundationUserPatch.tar.gz TjL
From: arti@address.in.signature (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 4.0 vs 4.1 Openstep Date: 24 Apr 1997 03:06:54 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5jmioe$sna@mochi.lava.net> References: <5j5t48$eqh$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <335B283F.794B@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> <5ji3bd$ape$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5jj4hb$n53$1@news.digifix.com> <5jk5q9$4vg@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> lhow@ecr.mu.oz.au (Luke HOWARD) wrote: > > : I can see a way... if Apple also ported the 'legacy libs' > : that ship with OS 4.1 on Mach... and ran the 68000 code using an > : emulator. > > Being able to NXHost apps would at least let me put a cube > in the corner and run those legacy apps :-) This is now possible with OPENSTEP Enterprise (NT). It's pretty bizarre to see the NS menu up in the upper left corner of the NT desktop and NS windows mingling with NT windows. But this approach seems superior to adding the substantial overhead of NS shared libraries in addition to the Rhapsody frameworks (DLLs). -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti at lava dot net Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
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From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: capturing TIFFs from NextTV screen shots Date: 24 Apr 1997 14:09:43 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5jnpj7$6p8@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <5jm0sj$kco@lendl.cc.emory.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (FinalNews for NeXTstep; Version 0.24 / Apr 16, 1997) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Louis Leon wrote in <5jm0sj$kco@lendl.cc.emory.edu> on 1997-04-24 00:01:55 +0200: > I can hookup my NextDimension to the campus cable and watch the Kiosk channel > that displays campus events. I would like to capture these and to have them > available to my web server. > > How would I do this and what software would I use? There's a beautiful free application written by Thomas Engel called NDCamera.app. Included with this is AFAIK a tool called NDCameraRC.app (I at least have it here). It does exactly what you want. You should be able to find it at the major servers. If this is not the case, please drop me a mail. -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: atrcomp@dds.nl (Ruben Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can you program advanced graphic programs(Java or C++) Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 06:27:54 GMT Organization: GlobalXS, the Netherlands Message-ID: <335efd61.34903624@news.globalxs.nl> I need Software developers who can program highly advanced graphic programs. The Software needs to run on Unix Workstations and Windows NT/95 environment. It is not a one person project. You will be working with multiple perople. So you have to know(or learn fast) how to work in a team). It doesn't matter were you live. 'Cause we can have contact through the Internet. If you think you can do this, PLease ReMail this message and tell me something about yourself and your work(not nescesary). And I will send you some more information. Sincerely Ruben Daniels
From: jonnoh@ma.ultranet.com (Jon W Barto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Developers Coalition Date: 24 Apr 1997 20:38:38 GMT Organization: Human Race Message-ID: <jonnoh-2404971639160001@d18.dial-1.ltn.ma.ultra.net> References: <chaney-2104971810420001@cust107.max12.kansas-city.mo.ms.uu.net> In article <chaney-2104971810420001@cust107.max12.kansas-city.mo.ms.uu.net>, chaney@earthlink.net (Evan Chaney) wrote: > Has anyone here heard about the Developers Coalition? > -- > Evan Chaney > chaney@earthlink.net > http://evanville.home.ml.org Certainly. Here's the info you're looking for. I found it on another newsgroup. Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform over the competition. To run this great hardware, they have a superior OS on the way -- Rhapsody, which will bring new meaning to the word modern and its associated buzzwords, and give some already impressive hardware a large performance boost. What Apple does not seem to have, however, is the crucial third piece of the computer puzzle-- applications. In order to make their new strategy compelling to the average consumer, Apple needs the support of developers to make office tools, games, and other applications that take advantage of this great hardware and OS. Without this support, and a large measure of it, Apple will go nowhere. Enter the Developer1s Coalition, a well-researched, hard-thought answer to this problem, and one that should put all support for Be and other alternatives out of the picture for good. Picture: * A new organization in which the various, usually competing, Mac hardware vendors *all* come together to encourage and fund development for the Mac OS-- a group composed of not just the AIM triad (Apple, IBM, Motorola), but also the 12 or so cloners, both large and small. * The stability and harmony such a group will bring the platform with its 3we1re all in the same boat2 message. * The reaction of developers to an organization with this breadth and resource level. * This same forum taking on many of the other platform-wide duties, such as evangelism and advertising-- like that PowerPC commercial everyone is longing for... * The tremendous boost in public confidence that will result from this move. Sound good? Then I need your help. The above organization exists only on paper. However, a group of enterprising people have hatched a plan to publicize the idea, hoping to create two reactions: one, let the press and developers know that there is a huge cadre of 3average Joe2 Mac users out there eager to see more programs developed for the Mac; and two, to get the different hardware vendors to either form such a group, or start contributing to an Apple-led effort to provide these benefits. This plan entails a massive e-mail campaign targeting all the Mac hardware vendors with cc's to all the Mac software developers. Address lists for these will be posted on the eve of the campaign. Following is the form letter. Pleae help us out by sending it to the provided mailing lists on or between the dates of *Sunday, April 20th* and *Saturday, April 27*. Thank you. * DC Home: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2633/dc.html * Complete Mac http://www.dol.net/~Ragosta/dev.htm * MacMarines http://www.macmarines.com/dcnews/dcnews.html
From: peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Auto-display a TIFF? Date: 23 Apr 1997 18:04:19 GMT Organization: Peter's Private Newsserver Message-ID: <5jliv3$51j@unity.westfalen.de> References: <ukv67xhptjv.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> <5jgdns$9fp@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Felipe, nice idea but it don´t function /usr/local/bin/tiffview /LocalLibrary/Images/Familie/Alexandra.tiff Uncaught exception #1000 do you know abou this hacks for me nothing runs starting with doubleclick flash and away :-( peter -- peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) Peter Kopatzki Am Bredberg 21 D-49143 Schledehausen "The only purpose of life is Bliss" -Go and create it! NeXTmail, MIME and SUN Solaris welcome URL Firma:http://www.globalsalesnetwork.com URL Privat:http://www.globalsalesnetwork.com/Private.html Phone:+49(0)5402 98050 Public Key on request
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: realaudio for NS? Date: 24 Apr 1997 23:09:57 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5jop85$7uc@news.tamu.edu> References: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> <5jhgec$10j$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5jil29$jn3$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <5jlrko$8nu$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Apr 1997 23:09:57 GMT In-Reply-To: <5jlrko$8nu$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> OK, thanks for the pointers. I thought mpeg was just a graphic format but I'll check into that more. I checked out your cr1 utility is what got me thinking on this and since RA seems to fairly common ~:-( Stephen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: capturing TIFFs from NextTV screen shots Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E94GIL.683@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 03:03:57 GMT References: <5jm0sj$kco@lendl.cc.emory.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5jm0sj$kco@lendl.cc.emory.edu>, Louis Leon <louis@orb.isdn.emory.edu> wrote: >I can hookup my NextDimension to the campus cable and watch the Kiosk channel >that displays campus events. I would like to capture these and to have them >available to my web server. > >How would I do this and what software would I use? > There are a couple of ways. Using NeXTtv you can freeze the image, select a range, and copy it to the clipboard. Then you could use something that can open clipboard-based images to save it (I think Compress-O-Matic can do this.) Or slightly more heavy-duty would be to use Create--it offers a service that will suck up TIFF data and stick it in a Create document. You can then select this object and save it as a TIFF. I suppose the best would be for some enterprising person (I doubt I'll have time) to write a TickleServices service to slurp in TIFF data and save it to a file. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: jswalter@overseer.bankamerica.com (John Walter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FTP with Omniweb Date: 25 Apr 1997 02:36:30 GMT Organization: A Corporation who shall Remain Nameless Message-ID: <5jp5be$d9c@cgs1.bankamerica.com> Perhaps someone out there has been through this..I have tried several downloads from web sites (i.e. Blacksmith, Lighthouse etc) using OmniWeb. However, OmniWeb brings the binary file into the browser viewer rather than the Next filesystem (/tmp). Am I missing something or have I got something in the OmniWeb preferences wrong. BTW, I am using OmniWeb 2.5b2 if that helps
From: louis@orb.isdn.emory.edu (Louis Leon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: capturing TIFFs from NextTV screen shots Date: 24 Apr 1997 10:54:40 GMT Organization: Emory University Message-ID: <5jne5g$kco@lendl.cc.emory.edu> References: <5jm0sj$kco@lendl.cc.emory.edu> <E94GIL.683@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Cc: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca In <E94GIL.683@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote: > In article <5jm0sj$kco@lendl.cc.emory.edu>, > Louis Leon <louis@orb.isdn.emory.edu> wrote: > >I can hookup my NextDimension to the campus cable and watch the Kiosk channel > >that displays campus events. I would like to capture these and to have them > >available to my web server. > > > >How would I do this and what software would I use? > > > > > There are a couple of ways. Using NeXTtv you can freeze the image, select a > range, and copy it to the clipboard. Then you could use something that can > open clipboard-based images to save it (I think Compress-O-Matic can do this.) > Or slightly more heavy-duty would be to use Create--it offers a service that > will suck up TIFF data and stick it in a Create document. You can then > select this object and save it as a TIFF. > I suppose the best would be for some enterprising person (I doubt I'll have > time) to write a TickleServices service to slurp in TIFF data and save it to a > file. > I wasn't looking for a manual approach. I am looking for a way to have this done automatically (via command line utilities and pipes). The intent is to have the Web server act as a reflector of the kiosk cable channel. The kiosk cable channel changes its screen every 30 seconds (more or less). The screens themselves can be changed at anytime. Are you suggesting a tcl program to run both NextTv and a program that can open clipboard-based images to save it? Thanks anyway
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: realaudio for NS? Date: 24 Apr 1997 23:15:39 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5jopir$je@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> <5jhgec$10j$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5jil29$jn3$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <5jlrko$8nu$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: > IMHO such a closed format is a bad thing anyway and MPEG I L3 > with lower bit rates makes for a very good sound even over > modem lines Problem is that a lot of sound files out there are MPEG II L3... I've found a decoding utility for MPEG II for NEXTSTEP at Fraunhofer, but these people are totally brain damaged, wanting as much 400 DM (> US $ 230) for what they call a "shareware" program :-((( Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________ 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Word Processors and DTP Date: 25 Apr 1997 09:45:55 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5jpugj$6hv$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5ive5l$6c1@pilot.njin.net> <5j84p7$9kt$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> : If you really want to do this stuff professionally, look at OneVision: : http://onevision.de/ : (no "www"). That's question I have for you mmalc! How much do their software cost??? or even Amino!???? Any student discounts from you guys!?;-) Godwin
From: "Steve Loranz" <sloranz@pencom.com> Subject: Re: nameserver?? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin References: <5j0vcm$ia5$1@brokaw.wa.com> Organization: Pencom Systems Administration Message-ID: <01bc50cd$86c1d920$e17578a4@loranzs.sch.advantis.com> Date: 24 Apr 97 16:26:41 GMT You can actually put this in NetInfo. Every new machine you put in the domain will then be able to resolve DNS names. Create a resolver directory under locations. Mine sits in /locations/Resolver with domain, nameserver, nameserver, search properties. -steve bf <ihate@spammers.com> wrote in article <5j0vcm$ia5$1@brokaw.wa.com>... > Im rather new to the next community and actually just fired up my color > station today to learn about it. I was trying to configure the network > and setup its IP, gateway etc with the SimpleNetworkSetup or something > similar in the admin apps. However i noticed no place to stick in a > nameserver, so i went searching for a resolv.conf in /etc with no luck. > Im not running a YP, etc server on this little localnet, so how do i > setup what nameservers to use?? > > -b > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.halcyon.com/larryf/ -- larryf at halcyon dot com > ----------------------------------------------------- > --NOTE: Email address in header is fake due to spam-- > ------------------------------------------------------------- >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: capturing TIFFs from NextTV screen shots Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E95B77.o10@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 14:06:43 GMT References: <5jm0sj$kco@lendl.cc.emory.edu> <E94GIL.683@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5jne5g$kco@lendl.cc.emory.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5jne5g$kco@lendl.cc.emory.edu>, > >I wasn't looking for a manual approach. > >I am looking for a way to have this done automatically (via command line >utilities and pipes). The intent is to have the Web server act as a reflector >of the kiosk cable channel. Ahh--I see! That is quite nifty! Now you've got me wanting this, even though I have no use for it. :) >Are you suggesting a tcl program to run both NextTv and a program that can >open clipboard-based images to save it? > I don't think that would work well; I think the best plan would be a custom command- line program that constructed an NXLiveVideoView (the thing you use to talk to the ND) and grabbed images from it on command. Could probably be whipped up in an afternoon or so. I'd do it but I doubt I'll have the time for a while... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Žiboehme@abm08.abm.de (Ivo Boehme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fax Software Date: 25 Apr 1997 11:41:46 GMT Organization: Nacamar Data Communications Message-ID: <5jq59q$hdp$2@news.nacamar.de> Hello All, what fax (both send & receive) software is usable for NS3.3? It would be great if it supports hppa, i386 and m68k hardware. We cannot get the buildin software driver to work with our modem ... ThanX in advance. Ivo
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: realaudio for NS? Date: 25 Apr 1997 11:27:53 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5jq4fp$5dv$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> <5jhgec$10j$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5jil29$jn3$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <5jlrko$8nu$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5jopir$je@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Cc: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de In <5jopir$je@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote: > frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: > > IMHO such a closed format is a bad thing anyway and MPEG I L3 > > with lower bit rates makes for a very good sound even over > > modem lines > > Problem is that a lot of sound files out there are MPEG II L3... > > I've found a decoding utility for MPEG II for NEXTSTEP at Fraunhofer, but > these people are totally brain damaged, wanting as much 400 DM (> US $ 230) > for what they call a "shareware" program :-((( > Then check my MMP.app application as available on the archives. It is a frontend to the freeware MPEG I audio decoder 'mpg123' by Michael Hipp et al. (Hint: you can find the command line 'mpg123' player program in the app wrapper, an URL to the mpg123 home page is in the Info panel). It seems to be a lot faster then the 'l3dec' program... (Well, the MPEG I L3 core of this mpg123 program is hand optimized assember to keep the Pentium pipelines happy) Anyway, beside of the quite large price tag I can only praise the Fraunhofer tools, the encoders psychoacoustic model is one of the best available and the quality is astounding (A friend of mine is one of the developers of 'mpg123', they tested a lot sound streams...). Maybe they should consider to make a 'private use only' distribution with a 49 $ price tag. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: realaudio for NS? Date: 25 Apr 1997 11:32:27 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5jq4ob$5dv$2@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> <5jhgec$10j$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5jil29$jn3$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <5jlrko$8nu$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5jopir$je@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5jq4fp$5dv$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Cc: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net In <5jq4fp$5dv$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Frank M. Siegert wrote: > In <5jopir$je@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote: > > frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: > > > IMHO such a closed format is a bad thing anyway and MPEG I L3 > > > with lower bit rates makes for a very good sound even over > > > modem lines > > > > Problem is that a lot of sound files out there are MPEG II L3... > > > > I've found a decoding utility for MPEG II for NEXTSTEP at Fraunhofer, but > > these people are totally brain damaged, wanting as much 400 DM (> US $ 230) > > for what they call a "shareware" program :-((( > > > Hups, sorry, you meant MPEG II L3 :)... guess Michael, the autor of 'mpg123' is working on that too... Anyway, as far as I can see most sounds out there are either MPEG I Layer 2 (e.g. in the Internet Inderground Music Archive) or Layer 3. I have seen not much MPEG II stuff out there, but maybe I did look in the wrong places. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OS 4.0 Upgrade dies.... Date: 25 Apr 1997 13:00:53 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <5jq9u5$696$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Despite all your good advice on waiting for 4.2 I decided to go ahead and upgrade just one machine from NS 3.3 to OS 4.0 just to see the new features (especially True Type fonts and Samba). At about 75% of the upgrade process, a panel came up indicating that "Upgrade Process Failed, Thread died". Is this one of the reasons I should have waited for 4.2 :-) , or indeed this is something that can be fixed. Any ideas? Regards --john ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2189 or -2165 | | Naval Research Laboratory | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Code 6380 |e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil| | Washington DC 20375-5000 | michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil|
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: renderman? Date: 25 Apr 1997 13:56:40 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5jqd6o$7m3$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5jjph8$d4m$1@brokaw.wa.com> <5jk988$him$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> In-Reply-To: <5jk988$him$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> On 04/23/97, Marcel Bresink wrote: >ihate@spammers.com (bf) wrote: >> i heard that at one time renderman was included with NS. Anyone know >> what versions this was on? im running 3.3/3.2 and i dont see it >> anywhere :) > >It was included in all 3.x versions. It is still in OpenStep for Mach 4.x, >but without the developer classes (the "3DKit"). Did you look in /usr/prman? > It's still in 4.x -- 3DReality still runs, for example. Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FTP with Omniweb Date: 25 Apr 1997 02:59:08 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5jp6ls$fvm@news.tamu.edu> References: <5jp5be$d9c@cgs1.bankamerica.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Apr 1997 02:59:08 GMT John Walter <jswalter@overseer.bankamerica.com> wrote: >OmniWeb brings the binary file into the >browser viewer rather than the Next filesystem (/tmp). Am I missing >something or have I got something in the OmniWeb preferences wrong. BTW, >I am using OmniWeb 2.5b2 if that helps John---OmniWeb's default behavior is to display the file in the browser if there is no application that claims that kind of file. If you install an application such as Opener.app (which handles tar, shar, .Z and .gz files, and is free from the archives) then OmniWeb will shunt the binary file over to it, and everything will "just work". Have fun, -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: realaudio for NS? Date: 25 Apr 1997 19:39:06 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5jr18q$1it@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> <5jhgec$10j$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5jil29$jn3$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <5jlrko$8nu$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5jopir$je@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5jq4fp$5dv$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: > Anyway, beside of the quite large price tag I can only praise > the Fraunhofer tools, the encoders psychoacoustic model is one > of the best available and the quality is astounding (A friend of > mine is one of the developers of 'mpg123', they tested a lot > sound streams...). Well, but the price tag totally ruins it. :-( $230 for a unix utility is certainly beyond any reasonable reach of an individual wanting to listen to sound files from the internet. What makes me really angry is the fact that they call their distribution "shareware" while it is practically unusable (< 20s playing time) if not paid for. This is *commercial* software, nothing else. > Maybe they should consider to make a 'private use only' > distribution with a 49 $ price tag. They definitely should, and even $49 is quite high... Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: realaudio for NS? Date: 25 Apr 1997 19:33:53 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5jr0v1$1it@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> <5jhgec$10j$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5jil29$jn3$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <5jlrko$8nu$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5jopir$je@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5jq4fp$5dv$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5jq4ob$5dv$2@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: > Hups, sorry, you meant MPEG II L3 :)... Yes, that's the problem... :-( > guess Michael, the autor of 'mpg123' > is working on that too... That would be really great. Just a wild guess, or do you have any hints? Is MPEG II an open format so he can reasonably do it? > Anyway, as far as I can see most sounds out there are either MPEG > I Layer 2 (e.g. in the Internet Inderground Music Archive) or > Layer 3. I have seen not much MPEG II stuff out there, but maybe > I did look in the wrong places. Sadly, *all* the files I'd need to have are MPEG II... :-((( Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax Software Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 12:34:43 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970425123341.3163E-100000@kira> References: <5jq59q$hdp$2@news.nacamar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5jq59q$hdp$2@news.nacamar.de> Check out NXFax. I think it might be just N & I but might also be H and S. The fax software that ships with NeXTStep is old & useless TjL
From: tgo@phorcys.wscis.wsc.com (Thomas Kent Go) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: writeup documents Date: 25 Apr 1997 21:02:58 GMT Organization: WSC Investment Services, Inc. Message-ID: <5jr662$idp@cerberus.wsc.com> Hi, I have about a few hundred Writeup document in which I want to convert to either Word or WordPerfect for Windows. Does anyone know of any command line or program that could convert these files easily? At this point I would need to open each one and save it as a Word or WordPerfect format. Is there an easier way to do this? Thanks Thomas tgo@wsc.com P.S. Please respond via e-mail
From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: realaudio for NS? Date: 25 Apr 1997 19:00:45 -0400 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5jrd2t$cpc@sps1.phys.vt.edu> References: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> <5jlrko$8nu$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5jopir$je@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5jq4fp$5dv$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> In article <5jq4fp$5dv$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>, frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: > Then check my MMP.app application as available on the archives. It is a > frontend to the freeware MPEG I audio decoder 'mpg123' by Michael Hipp et > al. (Hint: you can find the command line 'mpg123' player program in the app > wrapper, an URL to the mpg123 home page is in the Info panel). It seems to be > a lot faster then the 'l3dec' program... I'm wondering what's wrong with my system.. I've been using MMP.app, and the MPEG-3's are totally unplayable in stereo on my Pentium 120. Even with stereo turned off, I still have to filter out most of the treble to get rid of the static. (Actually, even MODs are static-y.) My Linux friends don't seem to have this problem (I don't know what player they're using). Is there something wrong with my system, or NEXTSTEP, or what? MMP.app is really nice, though. Kind of unresponsive to commands while playing, but considering the CPU resources required, unsurprising.. wouldn't want it spending too much time waiting for events when it should be playing.
From: jut@ukrv.de (Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.-U. Thieme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FTP with Omniweb Date: 25 Apr 1997 08:01:03 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5jpobv$1u4$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <5jp5be$d9c@cgs1.bankamerica.com> <5jp6ls$fvm@news.tamu.edu> Cc: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu In <5jp6ls$fvm@news.tamu.edu> Colin Allen wrote: > John Walter <jswalter@overseer.bankamerica.com> wrote: > >OmniWeb brings the binary file into the > >browser viewer rather than the Next filesystem (/tmp). Am I missing > >something or have I got something in the OmniWeb preferences wrong. BTW, > >I am using OmniWeb 2.5b2 if that helps > > John---OmniWeb's default behavior is to display the file in the > browser if there is no application that claims that kind of file. If > you install an application such as Opener.app (which handles tar, > shar, .Z and .gz files, and is free from the archives) then OmniWeb > will shunt the binary file over to it, and everything will "just > work". > > Have fun, Or press the command-button and click the file, then OmniWeb save the file in the "Download Directory" (see "Download Preferences" in the Preferences-Panel). CIAO JUT > > > -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.- U. Thieme - -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jut@ukrv.de or jut@rz.charite.hu-berlin.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 66127 - - fax: +49 30 450 66937 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - -------------------------------------------------------------- - "I am saddened -- not by Microsoft's success, I have no - - problem with their success, they've earned their success - - ...for the most part -- I have a problem with the fact - - that they just make really third-rate products." - - - - Steven Paul Jobs - --------------------------------------------------------------
From: Kevin Birch <kbirch@xsf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: 3.3 Developer for HPPA Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 19:06:28 -0500 Organization: Xsf, Incorporated Message-ID: <336146CE.1B6C@xsf.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I am looking for a copy of NeXTSTEP 3.3 Developer for HP. I realize that this is an old product, but I really would like to start development on NeXTSTEP. TIA, Kevin
From: Kevin Birch <kbirch@xsf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where are all the extras in 3.3? Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 19:17:04 -0500 Organization: Xsf, Incorporated Message-ID: <33614977.6DB8@xsf.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I recently installed 3.3 User on an HP and am enjoying it so far. I hadn't used NeXTSTEP for a long time, but as I recall, it used to come with lots of extra niceities. Things like Shakespeare's writings, Oxford Dictionary of Quotations, WriteNow, Mathematica, Allegro Common Lisp, and Sybase's SQL server, etc. What happened to all this cool stuff? Kevin -- Kevin Birch Principal Scientist Xsf, Incorporated
From: Kevin Birch <kbirch@xsf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing with NeXTSTEP 3.3 on HP Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 19:17:17 -0500 Organization: Xsf, Incorporated Message-ID: <33614984.4186@xsf.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I have an HP 715/80i running NeXTSTEP 3.3 User, and I am trying to set up printing. I want to communicate with an Apple LaserWriter 12/640PS. In PrintMagnager my options are either HP JetDirect or serial. I tried JetDirect and put in the printer's ip address, but it never prints. The busy light will flash briefly but then it will stop, and the print job just sits in the queue forever, and no errors are ever reported. Next I tried serial, but even less happens there. The busy light never even flashes. The 715 has only one serial port, but I have tried to print with both serial A & B selected in PrinterManager. Again, the jobs sits forever in the queue. I installed the correct PPD for my printer according to the docs, and it shows up in the list of available printer types. I'm stumped, any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. TIA, Kevin
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax Software Date: 26 Apr 1997 01:13:24 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5jrkrk$asa$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5jq59q$hdp$2@news.nacamar.de> you need a class2 modem instead of the usual class2.0 modems you see on the market.. Zxyel sells class 2 modems godwin Ivo Boehme (Žiboehme@abm08.abm.de) wrote: : Hello All, : what fax (both send & receive) software is usable for NS3.3? It would : be great if it supports hppa, i386 and m68k hardware. : We cannot get the buildin software driver to work with our modem ... : ThanX in advance. : Ivo
From: chaney@earthlink.net (Evan Chaney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Developers Coalition Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 21:29:41 -0500 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <chaney-2504972129420001@cust54.max5.kansas-city2.mo.ms.uu.net> Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform over the competition. To run this great hardware, they have a superior OS on the way -- Rhapsody, which will bring new meaning to the word modern and its associated buzzwords, and give some already impressive hardware a large performance boost. What Apple does not seem to have, however, is the crucial third piece of the computer puzzle-- applications. In order to make their new strategy compelling to the average consumer, Apple needs the support of developers to make office tools, games, and other applications that take advantage of this great hardware and OS. Without this support, and a large measure of it, Apple will go nowhere. Enter the Developer1s Coalition, a well-researched, hard-thought answer to this problem, and one that should put all support for Be and other alternatives out of the picture for good. Picture: * A new organization in which the various, usually competing, Mac hardware vendors *all* come together to encourage and fund development for the Mac OS-- a group composed of not just the AIM triad (Apple, IBM, Motorola), but also the 12 or so cloners, both large and small. * The stability and harmony such a group will bring the platform with its 3we1re all in the same boat2 message. * The reaction of developers to an organization with this breadth and resource level. * This same forum taking on many of the other platform-wide duties, such as evangelism and advertising-- like that PowerPC commercial everyone is longing for... * The tremendous boost in public confidence that will result from this move. Sound good? Then I need your help. The above organization exists only on paper. However, a group of enterprising people have hatched a plan to publicize the idea, hoping to create two reactions: one, let the press and developers know that there is a huge cadre of 3average Joe2 Mac users out there eager to see more programs developed for the Mac; and two, to get the different hardware vendors to either form such a group, or start contributing to an Apple-led effort to provide these benefits. This plan entails a massive e-mail campaign targeting all the Mac hardware vendors with cc's to all the Mac software developers. Address lists for these will be posted on the eve of the campaign. Following is the form letter. Pleae help us out by sending it to the provided mailing lists on or between the dates of *Sunday, April 20th* and *Saturday, April 27*. Thank you. * DC Home: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2633/dc.html * Complete Mac http://www.dol.net/~Ragosta/dev.htm * MacMarines http://www.macmarines.com/dcnews/dcnews.html Evan Chaney chaney@earthlink.net http://evanville.home.ml.org
From: chris@homer.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Christian Vollmert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: mgetty for ns3.3 intel Date: 26 Apr 1997 07:14:43 GMT Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne Message-ID: <5jsa13$hsg@news.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, i´m looking for an ready to use mgetty version with ns 3.3 intel so, if somebody know where i can get this - please tell me ! bye chris c.vollmert@moeller.net
From: amocomp@dds.nl (Ruben Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can you program advanced graphic programs(Java or C++)(NIEW) Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 06:43:27 GMT Organization: GlobalXS, the Netherlands Message-ID: <3361a404.10314715@news.globalxs.nl> I need Software developers who can program highly advanced graphic programs. The Software needs to run on Unix Workstations and Windows NT/95 environment. It is not a one person project. You will be working with multiple perople. So you have to know(or learn fast) how to work in a team). It doesn't matter were you live. 'Cause we can have contact through the Internet. If you think you can do this, PLease ReMail this message and tell me something about yourself and your work(not nescesary). And I will send you some more information. Sincerely Ruben Daniels
From: awang@plains.nodak.edu (Andy Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: realaudio for NS? Date: 26 Apr 1997 00:01:20 -0500 Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network (NDHECN) Message-ID: <5js270$c6m@plains.nodak.edu> References: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> <5jopir$je@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5jq4fp$5dv$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5jrd2t$cpc@sps1.phys.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <5jrd2t$cpc@sps1.phys.vt.edu>, Nathan Urban <nurban@vt.edu> wrote: >I'm wondering what's wrong with my system.. I've been using MMP.app, >and the MPEG-3's are totally unplayable in stereo on my Pentium 120. >Even with stereo turned off, I still have to filter out most of the >treble to get rid of the static. (Actually, even MODs are static-y.) >My Linux friends don't seem to have this problem (I don't know what player >they're using). Is there something wrong with my system, or NEXTSTEP, >or what? > >MMP.app is really nice, though. Kind of unresponsive to commands while >playing, but considering the CPU resources required, unsurprising.. >wouldn't want it spending too much time waiting for events when it >should be playing. hmm.. could it be due to a shitty sound card? I have a pentium 133, and mp3's play great with my system. I've heard a p100 playing them with MMP.app and it sounds good too.. I'm especially thinking that it's a sound card problem since MODs are also staticy.. both my machine, and the p100 used a sound blaster 16.. andy -- ----------------- Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT, MIME or SUN mail OK -------------- - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - - What the hell is a chicken? - http://www.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - ------------------------- awang@plains.nodak.edu -----------------------------
From: lfh@pilot.njin.net (Luis Hernandez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X Windows? Date: 14 Apr 1997 02:01:38 -0400 Organization: Rutgers University Message-ID: <5ish82$hjf@pilot.njin.net> Hey all, I'm thinking of picking up a NeXTStation within a week or so. It's been a dream of mine since the intro of the first Cube and my days at Carnegie Mellon. I forgot all about them until the merger and now I've decided to buy one, at least a Turbo Color with 16megs of ram. (Is that enough? or will I end up buying more ram? Oh, how is the setup of ram in the NeXT? How many SIMM slots does it have?) My question is what programs are out there to let a NeXT use X Windows? I don't wanna replace the Workspace, but just wanna be able to run X Windows apps on it. Or do the 'newer' NeXT's allow this outta the box? I haven't used a NeXT in at least 5 years now!! Please reply to cjabido@npl.org since I don't know when this account will die! Thanks again, Carl Jabido Newark Public Library cjabido@npl.org
From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: realaudio for NS? Date: 26 Apr 1997 11:55:49 -0400 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5jt8i5$fso@sps1.phys.vt.edu> References: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> <5jq4fp$5dv$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5jrd2t$cpc@sps1.phys.vt.edu> <5js270$c6m@plains.nodak.edu> In article <5js270$c6m@plains.nodak.edu>, awang@plains.nodak.edu (Andy Wang) wrote: > hmm.. could it be due to a shitty sound card? Possibly. I dunno. I have a ProAudio Spectrum 16. (Originally ordered an SB16, but I found out that it literally didn't fit in my computer! The thing hit the heat sink on my CPU. Traded it for a PAS 16 just because it's shorter. Really poor layout inside the case, if you ask me..) > I'm especially thinking that it's a sound card problem since MODs are also > staticy.. That's what I was thinking.. my P120 should not be having trouble keeping up with a stereo MOD file.. an MPEG-3, I might understand..
From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED PING Date: 26 Apr 1997 11:56:57 -0400 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5jt8k9$fte@sps1.phys.vt.edu> References: <5jsuap$d08@news.jump.net> In article <5jsuap$d08@news.jump.net>, mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) wrote: > Hey all! Anyone know where I can get PING for NS 3.3? I thought this was a > standard UNIX command, but I guess not. It is a standard Unix command; it's just not in the standard path. Try running /etc/ping, or putting /etc in your path.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu Subject: Software I've compiled Message-ID: <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 16:45:40 GMT Hey all... I've been thinking about uploading some software for black to the archives. But before I do so, I was just wondering if there was any interest in any of it. * jug - animates siteswap patterns for jugglers (curses interface) * juggle - another curses siteswap animator, fewer features, but better animation * hap - wonderful utility which uses curses to display various system changes at the top of your terminal screen, such as e-mail notification, including sender's name and subject. Very versatile. * newtl-1.8 - a UNIX shell-based communication interface between a NeXT slab and an Apple Newton * pico * pine-3.91 * trn-3.5 Things I'm working on: # compiling sendmail-8.8.5 # porting a platform-independent Connectix QuickCam interface Thanks! --Mark
From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEED PING Date: Sat, 26 Apr 97 13:00:11 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Message-ID: <5jsuap$d08@news.jump.net> Hey all! Anyone know where I can get PING for NS 3.3? I thought this was a standard UNIX command, but I guess not. Matt please reply to mseibert@ita1.inow.com, news sux from here
From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem with Mathematica Date: 26 Apr 1997 20:01:05 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5jtmu1$doa@ttacs7.ttu.edu> i am running NS 3.3 on a NeXT color turbo station and just installed mathematica 2.0.2 on it. i am not able to run mathematica through the notebook (i.e) from the front end; but it runs from the command line. if i open a notebook and try to execute a command, it just sits there doing nothing. could someone please tell my what might be wrong. thanks, hs
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software I've compiled Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 18:05:54 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970426174348.11887B-100000@kira> References: <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: fugue@ccp.uchicago.edu In-Reply-To: <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> > * jug - animates siteswap patterns for jugglers (curses interface) > > * juggle - another curses siteswap animator, fewer features, but better > animation > > * hap - wonderful utility which uses curses to display various system > changes at the top of your terminal screen, such as e-mail > notification, including sender's name and subject. Very versatile. > > * newtl-1.8 - a UNIX shell-based communication interface between a NeXT > slab and an Apple Newton All these sound good... > * pico > > * pine-3.91 These you can get from the PINE ftp site already compiled, and new versions too... pine is at 3.96... not sure what pico is at > * trn-3.5 don't know if this is newer than the one on peak > Things I'm working on: > > # compiling sendmail-8.8.5 It's been done... ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/sendmail.8.8.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/sendmail.8.8.5.README > # porting a platform-independent Connectix QuickCam interface that'd be cool... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: engelhar@mail.tiac.net (Michael Engelhart) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OS 4.1 Academic Bundle Date: 27 Apr 1997 02:29:43 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <engelhar-2604972231570001@p16.ts1.newbr.nj.tiac.com> Can anyone tell me what this exactly is? Do you get the Developer and User versions of OpenStep? thanks for any info. MIke
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb or other most current OpenStep browser Date: 27 Apr 1997 03:55:15 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5juin3$9jt$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Is Lighthouse or OmniGroup still working on OmniWeb? I have version 2.1.1 and I'm wondering whether there is a newer version I should get. I couldn't find any info on lighthouse's web site, or on StepWise. Is there another browser most people use these days in NEXTSTEP/OpenStep? (I'm running NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2, BTW.) -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <26385861508830@digifix.com> Date: 27 Apr 1997 03:59:44 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <25195862113623@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X Windows? Date: 26 Apr 1997 22:50:19 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5ju0rb$qpa$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5ish82$hjf@pilot.njin.net> : to buy one, at least a Turbo Color with 16megs of ram. (Is that enough? : or will I end up buying more ram? Oh, how is the setup of ram in the : NeXT? How many SIMM slots does it have?) 16 walks.. 32 jogs.. 64 runs.. 128 sprints!=) : My question is what programs are out there to let a NeXT use X Windows? : I don't wanna replace the Workspace, but just wanna be able to run : X Windows apps on it. Or do the 'newer' NeXT's allow this outta the : box? I haven't used a NeXT in at least 5 years now!! there is XNeXT or something.. check ftp.next.peak.org installed it once play around with it and went back to my O2=) Next does what next does best.. why get it to do more? Godwin
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software I've compiled Date: 26 Apr 1997 22:58:21 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5ju1ad$qpa$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> I think Robert has sendmail 8.8.5 compiled <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> I think the general attitude is we welcome submissions.. you might want to check the archives to see if something has been done or not.. Does your platform independent driver work for NeXT black hardware too? (via serial??=) Godwin
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb or other most current OpenStep browser Date: 27 Apr 1997 06:49:20 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5justg$gb0$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <5juin3$9jt$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In-Reply-To: <5juin3$9jt$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> On 04/26/97, Karl Pfleger wrote: >Is Lighthouse or OmniGroup still working on OmniWeb? I have version 2.1.1 >and I'm wondering whether there is a newer version I should get. >I couldn't find any info on lighthouse's web site, or on StepWise. Check out OmniGroup's site at www.omnigroup.com. The latest version is 2.5b6. >Is there another browser most people use these days in NEXTSTEP/OpenStep? >(I'm running NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2, BTW.) If you're running NeXTSTEP 3.2 you'll need the foundation libs of course but if you had OmniWeb 2.1.1 installed sucessfully you must've already dealt with that issue. >-Karl > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb or other most current OpenStep browser Date: 27 Apr 1997 06:31:08 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <5jurrc$5tt@news.istar.ca> References: <5juin3$9jt$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In-Reply-To: <5juin3$9jt$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> On 04/26/97, Karl Pfleger wrote: >Is Lighthouse or OmniGroup still working on OmniWeb? I have version >2.1.1 and I'm wondering whether there is a newer version I should >get. I couldn't find any info on lighthouse's web site, or on >StepWise. The most recent version is 2.5 beta 6. Don't be scared of that beta designation; the application is highly stable. (I've only crashed these beta versions once or twice in the many months I've used 'em.) Check out the OmniGroup web site "http://www.omnigroup.com" to get the newest version. OmniGroup also has free PDF and image viewer applications, amongst other things. As for other web browsers, the only other one I can think of is NetSurfer (see "http://www.netsurfer.com"). The advantage of NetSurfer over OmniWeb is that it supports animated gifs and has a cooler bookmark system. It's disadvantages are that you have to pay for it plus it occassionally formats html documents poorly. -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul Samson -==- jsamson@istar.ca -==- NeXTmail welcome, no MIME -===================================================================-
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software I've compiled Date: 27 Apr 1997 02:09:02 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5jucfu$54t$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970426174348.11887B-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma (luomat@peak.org) wrote: : > * pico : > : > * pine-3.91 pico I think is yet another email reader... my question would be was wrong with NeXTMAIL?!=) Godwin
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OS 4.1 Academic Bundle Date: 27 Apr 1997 02:44:09 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5juehp$6dk$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <engelhar-2604972231570001@p16.ts1.newbr.nj.tiac.com> Michael Engelhart (engelhar@mail.tiac.net) wrote: : Can anyone tell me what this exactly is? Do you get the Developer and : User versions of OpenStep? Yes User + Dev.. but I don't know if you get EOF? (I think you do but not sure)' you mind as well just wait for 4.2 which is around the corner oh yeah you need academic id to get it .. and the limitation is you can't do commercial stuff on it godwin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED PING References: <5jsuap$d08@news.jump.net> From: ANTI-SPAM! Message-ID: <33630d4a.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 27 Apr 97 08:24:42 GMT mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) wrote: >Hey all! Anyone know where I can get PING for NS 3.3? I thought this was a >standard UNIX command, but I guess not. > > >Matt >please reply to mseibert@ita1.inow.com, news sux from here Just type /etc/ping <nodenamehere>
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb or other most current OpenStep browser Date: 27 Apr 1997 04:17:16 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <5juk0c$9nf$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5juin3$9jt$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I think there is a 2.5 beta or something like that.. yes OmniGroup is pretty active with NeXTSTEP I think.. few of the people there have some cool utilities and stuff... There is also Netsurfer.. but for $99 I don't think it is worth it.. (of course it is personal feeling..) Godwin
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: Software I've compiled In-Reply-To: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca's message of 27 Apr 1997 02:09:02 GMT Message-ID: <ukvyba4fwvx.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970426174348.11887B-100000@kira> <5jucfu$54t$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 12:55:30 GMT Actually, PICO is a text editor, and comes with pine (usually), and it has been pointed out that it's done anyway, so... --Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: Software I've compiled In-Reply-To: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca's message of 26 Apr 1997 22:58:21 GMT Message-ID: <ukvwwpofwry.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> <5ju1ad$qpa$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 12:57:53 GMT godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) said: > > Does your platform independent driver work for NeXT black hardware too? > (via serial??=) Not yet, since I'm still porting it. It's not "mine", but some bloke who took the original UNIX QuickCam driver and rewrote it in a hardware-independent manner. Now all *I* have to do is find out how to get it working on a slab. Yes, it'll work via serial (unless what I've heard is true about the rate at which it transfers from the camera, in which case I'll stop, because the slab's serial port can't do 230Kbps. :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Re: realaudio for NS? Message-ID: <E9Arp5.Fy@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: news@shinto.nbg.sub.org Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member) References: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> <5jhgec$10j$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5jq4fp$5dv$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 12:51:05 GMT frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: > In <5jopir$je@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote: > > Problem is that a lot of sound files out there are MPEG II L3... > > > > I've found a decoding utility for MPEG II for NEXTSTEP at Fraunhofer, but > > these people are totally brain damaged, wanting as much 400 DM (> US $ 230) > > for what they call a "shareware" program :-((( > > > ... > Anyway, beside of the quite large price tag I can only praise the Fraunhofer > tools, the encoders psychoacoustic model is one of the best available and the > quality is astounding (A friend of mine is one of the developers of 'mpg123', > they tested a lot sound streams...). Maybe they should consider to make a > 'private use only' distribution with a 49 $ price tag. The price tag was a lot lower as I volunteered to donate a small NeXT frontend to their codecs. It was around 20 DM ($10) for recording...playback for free. Maybe they decided that they no longer want to support this codec...or only offer it to professional broadcasting companies or what ever...but the final release suddenly came with the horrible "shareware??" fee of 400 DM. Don't ask me why. I don't work for them...I just happen to know some of the guys who did the work...not the prizing. Aloha Tomi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Re: capturing TIFFs from NextTV screen shots Message-ID: <E9Ar9B.F6@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: news@shinto.nbg.sub.org Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member) References: <5jm0sj$kco@lendl.cc.emory.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 12:41:34 GMT I wrote a little app named "NDCamera" (should be on the usual archives) which has a small commandline tool which allows you to trigger a grab from a cron script or that like. With a very small adjustment of the code you should be able to force it to wrte the images to a fixed filename (this is currently not the case since it was intended for automatic movie capture with a sync to the VCR...so images are numbered) I wanted to enhance the next version to include native "WebCam" support. I might do this someday...but its not planned yet. Aloha Tomi
From: holger@object-factory.com.NOSPAM (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: realaudio for NS? Date: 22 Apr 1997 15:21:45 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <5jil29$jn3$1@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <5jgvq2$g72@news.tamu.edu> <5jhgec$10j$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Godwin wrote: > I think Frank @ www.this.net has done something along these lines. > > Check his page out there are alot of cool stuff there! > > Godwin > > Stephen Johnson (stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu) wrote: > : Does anyone know of the availability of Realaudio for NS? At one time, > : I thought I saw the source(?) but now that I got brave to try > : compiling it, I don't find it. > : I would really prefer the binaries for m68k ;-) The sources for the ** streaming protocol ** have been made publicly available and run fine - I started RAdio.app when the RTSP reference implementation came out. Unfortunately, that's only half the rent: the description for the decoding of the audio codec is ** still ** proprietary. In other words, you could write a RAdioStation.app that vends all sorts of interesting things over the net with the help of the 'standard' RTSP protocol, and have a RAdio.app that knows how to retrieve these files from the network stream. However, writing a client that understands the widely available audio .ram files is next to impossible until someone hits RealAudio over the head really hard and they release the spec for the f**** audio codec. The solution is to ignore RealAudio until it becomes a *really* open standard. Holger
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thf@iname.com (Thomas F. Unke) Subject: Re: FTP with Omniweb Message-ID: <1997Apr27.095907.848@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu Organization: Disorganization References: <5jp5be$d9c@cgs1.bankamerica.com> <5jp6ls$fvm@news.tamu.edu> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 09:59:07 GMT In <5jp6ls$fvm@news.tamu.edu> Colin Allen wrote: > John Walter <jswalter@overseer.bankamerica.com> wrote: > >OmniWeb brings the binary file into the > >browser viewer rather than the Next filesystem (/tmp). Am I missing > >something or have I got something in the OmniWeb preferences wrong. BTW, > >I am using OmniWeb 2.5b2 if that helps > > John---OmniWeb's default behavior is to display the file in the > browser if there is no application that claims that kind of file. If > you install an application such as Opener.app (which handles tar, > shar, .Z and .gz files, and is free from the archives) then OmniWeb > will shunt the binary file over to it, and everything will "just > work". Often it will not really "just work" because in this case Omniweb allocates huge amounts of memory which finally will result in a lot of swapping or even system crash. It is better to use the command-click option when downloading files, in my opinion this had better be the standard behaviour.
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FTP with Omniweb Date: 27 Apr 1997 17:19:57 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5k01rt$t45@news.tamu.edu> References: <5jp5be$d9c@cgs1.bankamerica.com> <5jp6ls$fvm@news.tamu.edu> <1997Apr27.095907.848@gamelan.shnet.org> NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Apr 1997 17:19:57 GMT Thomas F. Unke <thf@iname.com> wrote: >Often it will not really "just work" because in this case Omniweb allocates >huge amounts of memory which finally will result in a lot of swapping or even >system crash. I have never had that happen, even with downloads in the 4 meg range. I'm running NS 3.3 on a Pentium 66 with 32 Megs of RAM. Have I just been lucky, or are you talking about running on a really minimal system (I thought mine was pretty minimal!) -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb or other most current OpenStep browser Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:38:28 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427103211.10515A-100000@kira> References: <5juin3$9jt$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Karl Pfleger <kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU> In-Reply-To: <5juin3$9jt$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> > Is Lighthouse or OmniGroup still working on OmniWeb? I have version 2.1.1 > and I'm wondering whether there is a newer version I should get. > I couldn't find any info on lighthouse's web site, or on StepWise. Did you try www.omnigroup.com? The newest version is 2.5beta6 which you can get from OmniGroup or from PEAK: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5.b6/OmniWeb.2.5b6.H.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5.b6/OmniWeb.2.5b6.I.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5.b6/OmniWeb.2.5b6.N.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5.b6/OmniWeb.2.5b6.NIHS.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5.b6/OmniWeb.2.5b6.S.tar.gz Lighthouse seems to ahve turned over all its NeXTStep stuff to some ind. resellers. No NeXTStep stuff can be found on their site by mere mortals who don't already know where to look. > Is there another browser most people use these days in NEXTSTEP/OpenStep? > (I'm running NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2, BTW.) The only one I've heard of is Netsurfer, but I haven't been able to locate it's home page either... For those who want to run OmniWeb (or to help answer this question and the weekly "How do I get OmniWeb to run?" question): see my web page on browsers under my home page (see .sig) goto 'apps' and then 'WWW browsers' or quickjump to http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/apps/browsers.html TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb or other most current OpenStep browser Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 10:46:18 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427104521.10515B-100000@kira> References: <5juin3$9jt$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <5jurrc$5tt@news.istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5jurrc$5tt@news.istar.ca> http://www.netsurfer.com is the URL for Netsurfer... for some reason it wasn't being found when I entered "http://www.netsurker.com" Damned computers... so literal ;-) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: giddings.nospam@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software I've compiled (sharing data from Apple Newton) Date: 27 Apr 1997 20:33:52 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Distribution: world Message-ID: <5k0d7g$3pss@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Cc: fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu In <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu wrote: > Hey all... > I've been thinking about uploading some software for black to the > archives. But before I do so, I was just wondering if there was any [snip] > * newtl-1.8 - a UNIX shell-based communication interface between a NeXT > slab and an Apple Newton I was just about to post a question here about software for transferring data from the Apple Newton MP2000 - I'm interested in getting one (it sounds really cool!), but wanted to make sure I could share information with my Nextstep apps. Any more information on this topic would be of great interest to me. In particular, is it easy to get RTF files out of the Newton word processor and onto a NeXT box? I think it would be great if you uploaded this and the other software you mentioned (I'm also very interested in the QuickCam software). Thanks for doing this! remove .nospam to reply -- Michael Giddings giddings.nospam@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu giddings.nospam@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 265-6173 http://smithlab.chem.wisc.edu/PersonalPages/giddings/giddings.html http://www.barbarian.com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: converting TIFFs to gif/jpeg and KEEPING color, possible? Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 11:20:31 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427111819.14691A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've got some small tiffs I'd like to make into gif/jpgs. I tried converting them with ToyViewer but they come out greyscale even if they started in color. Is this because I'm using a mono machine? Would it work if I was doing this on a color machine? Is there a way to make it work on a mono machine? Thanks TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Where are all the extras in 3.3? Message-ID: <E9B2uB.1L5@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <33614977.6DB8@xsf.com> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 16:51:46 GMT In article <33614977.6DB8@xsf.com> Kevin Birch <kbirch@xsf.com> writes: > Hello all, > > I recently installed 3.3 User on an HP and am enjoying it so far. > I hadn't used NeXTSTEP for a long time, but as I recall, it used > to come with lots of extra niceities. Things like Shakespeare's > writings, Oxford Dictionary of Quotations, WriteNow, Mathematica, > Allegro Common Lisp, and Sybase's SQL server, etc. What happened > to all this cool stuff? > Discontinued and never supported for NP and SUN! You need earlier versions of NEXTSTEP and either Intel or (for some older goodies) NeXT hardware to run them. There was never a HP or SUN binary compiled and they were simply omitted from the HP and SUN distributions of NS User. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 17:32:28 -0600 From: lhobbs@crl.com Subject: Virtuoso won't launch? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <862177779.26781@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Virtuoso 2.0 stopped launching. The inspector panel, color panel and tools palette come up, but that's as far as it goes. It worked fine for a year and a half. I tried copying a new copy from the GS Corp CD, but I get the same thing. I can launch the demo copy from the CD but it won't let me save, so it doesn't help. I'm running OpenStep 4.0 on a black non-turbo slab. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fix this? Thank you in advance for your help. I appreciate it. Larry Hobbs Pragmatic Press PO Box 5777 Irvine, CA 92616-5777 800/454-1974 714/854-1152 714/854-1549 fax -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Virtuoso won't launch? Date: 28 Apr 1997 00:17:07 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5k0qa3$f99@news.tamu.edu> References: <862177779.26781@dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Apr 1997 00:17:07 GMT In article <862177779.26781@dejanews.com>, <lhobbs@crl.com> wrote: >Virtuoso 2.0 stopped launching. > >Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fix this? Thank you in >advance for your help. I appreciate it. Larry: I recently had a similar problem with another application (even when I went back to a CD-ROM copy). I found that deleting all the dwrites for the app fixed the problem. The command to use is "dremove". Presumably I didn't really need to delete them all, but it was quicker than trying to figure out which one had become corrupted May not work for you, of course! -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software I've compiled Date: 28 Apr 1997 01:25:40 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970428012500.VAA25349@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> I'd be interested in Newtl--and am sure that someone would appreciate everyithing else. If you build it, they will come. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Auto-display a TIFF? Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 17:49:07 -0400 Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <335A8F53.385D@worldbank.org> References: <ukv67xhptjv.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu wrote: > Is there any program that could be run, e.g., from a shell, that would > simply display a TIFF image? What I'm imagining is something like: > > killzone:12# showtiff /test.tiff If you have ImageViewer.app or OmniImage.app installed, just use open test.tiff -- Stefano Pagiola 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer
From: "Steve Loranz" <sloranz@king.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: BIND 4.9.5-P1 on OPENSTEP 4.x Date: 28 Apr 1997 06:29:03 GMT Organization: Kiwi InterNet Group, Inc. Message-ID: <01bc5395$03ddc7b0$09b429ce@fisher> Has anybody built BIND 4.9.5-P1 on OPENSTEP 4.x? I running into problems while building the named binary. It was complaining about _inet_aton being defined multiple times so I put -m in the ldflags to get it to use the symbol defined in libresolv.a within the bind source tree. Apparently, NeXT's cc doesn't understand -m as a linker option. I commented out the cc line in the named makefile and replaced it with a call to ld but then I had a number of undefined symbols. ld should look in the standard lib and include directories, no? I'm including all of the object files and libraries that the cc line had... I'd be happy to get any insight from people who have gotten this package to build. Thanks in advance. -steve
From: kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: edit app and page breaks Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:57:12 GMT Organization: University of Stirling Message-ID: <970415145712.7861AAFCL.kjt@copper> References: <5is1nh$csj@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I remember this was asked before. It can't be done directly in Edit. (Edit isn't meant to be a word processor.) It's necessary to edit the RTF file it in non-RTF mode (vi/emacs?) and insert something like \par \eject \par. Ken Turner
From: Žiboehme@abm08.abm.de (Ivo Boehme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: edit app and page breaks Date: 15 Apr 1997 14:34:53 GMT Organization: Nacamar Data Communications Message-ID: <5j03md$fmk$1@news.nacamar.de> References: <5is1nh$csj@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> <970415145712.7861AAFCL.kjt@copper> kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner) wrote: >I remember this was asked before. It can't be done directly in Edit. (Edit isn't >meant to be a word processor.) It's necessary to edit the RTF file it in non-RTF >mode (vi/emacs?) and insert something like \par \eject \par. ^^^^^^^^^^ you can use Edit for it. Preferences/Temp Settings/Ignore Rich Text Format > >Ken Turner --- Ivo
From: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca (Seamus Dunne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need Telescope Optic Ray Trace app Date: 16 Apr 1997 20:15:38 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5j3c1a$i19$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> I am looking for a ray trace app to run on my NeXT 040 cube, for serious amateur astronomy: lenses, mirrors, designing & analysis. I've seen a demo version of Zemax--for windoze3.1 only, and another called Beam for DOS-boxes. Also both are pricey: (Zemax starts at ~$900.) There's another shareware called IRT which is also windoze-based, and not friendly. Any suggestions here? Thanks in advance. Answer here, email or both. Seamus -- If I can't die happily-- I'd rather not die at all. Anon
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need Telescope Optic Ray Trace app Date: 16 Apr 1997 23:06:29 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <5j3m1l$rs7@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <5j3c1a$i19$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Cc: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca In <5j3c1a$i19$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Seamus Dunne wrote: > I am looking for a ray trace app to run on my NeXT 040 cube, for serious amateur > astronomy: lenses, mirrors, > designing & analysis. I've seen a demo version of Zemax--for windoze3.1 only, If you have Mathematica for your NeXT then there is a commercial program from Wolfram called Optica that will do exactly what you want. Sorta high end if you don't have MMA. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: nameserver?? Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:29:44 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4nJakMG00iUyI4MbB3@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <E8pDL9.6yL@gateway.ali.bc.ca> <AF7AE7A2-1ED9C@10.1.5.32> In-Reply-To: <AF7AE7A2-1ED9C@10.1.5.32> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Apr-97 Re: nameserver?? by "Kevin Birch"@xsf.com > Well, I've been hearing this same advice from many, but I when I > tried it, I got nada. I had no /etc/resolv.conf, so I created one with > domain and nameserver lines, but nslookup always thinks that the > name server is 0.0.0.0! Is there anything in NetInfoManager that > I am missing? This has really got me fustrated. Did you put the IP addresses in /etc/resolv.conf and not the names? Why not show us the file.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 4.0 vs 4.1 Openstep Date: 17 Apr 1997 19:19:36 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <5j5t48$eqh$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> When I order some upgrades from NeXTSTEP 3.3 to Openstep 4.0 I had not realized that 4.1 Would come up so soon. I did not proceed to the actual upgrades and now that my 3.3 is corrupt I am considering going to 4.0 OS (on Black Hardware). So the following questions came up? 1. Is it worth ordering 4.1 ? What does it contain more than 4.0? 2. Are NeXTSTEP 3.3 Apps still runnable under Openstep 4.0? 3. Is there something that I have to be aware (other than the release notes) before I upgrade from NS 3.3 to OS 4.0or1 ? Any pointers will be highly appreciated! Thanks everybody --john ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2189 or -2165 | | Naval Research Laboratory | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Code 6380 |e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil| | Washington DC 20375-5000 | michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil|
From: sbrandon@music.gla.ac.uk (Stephen Brandon - SysAdmin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: "Files not saving properly" in WriteNow etc. Date: 28 Apr 1997 11:47:04 GMT Organization: University of Glasgow Distribution: world Message-ID: <5k22no$13o@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> I've had a number of users report problems recently with "I thought I had saved the file I was working on, but when I opened it the next day the changes had not been made". This has apparently occurred in OpenWrite, Calliope, and WriteNow. I have known this to happen in OpenWrite, often to do with resizing images (the changes are not always saved). Not consistent. I have known very strange things to happen with Calliope, and am in frequent correspondence with Dr William Clocksin regarding this. But WriteNow...??? I am tempted to believe that the students here are jumping on the bandwagon of claiming that the software is at fault, since other users have found problems in Calliope etc. Has anyone out there EVER had a problem with WriteNow reporting that it has saved a file when in fact it hasn't? I have tried to repeat this behaviour, including trying to save to nearly-full disks, but it seems to handle these appropriately. Ideas anyone? Stephen Brandon Systems Administrator, Department of Music, e-mail: S.Brandon@music.gla.ac.uk 14 University Gardens, (NeXT mail welcomed) University of Glasgow, Tel: +44 (0)141 330 6065 Glasgow. Fax: +44 (0)141 330 3518 Scotland
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: "Files not saving properly" in WriteNow etc. Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 09:23:41 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970428092101.28717A-100000@kira> References: <5k22no$13o@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Stephen Brandon - SysAdmin <sbrandon@music.gla.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <5k22no$13o@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> > Has anyone out there EVER had a problem with WriteNow reporting that it > has saved a file when in fact it hasn't? I have tried to repeat this > behaviour, including trying to save to nearly-full disks, but it seems to > handle these appropriately. Ideas anyone? Are these over NFS mounts? Could they be silently timing out? Do the users in question have proper write permissions? Have you tried repeating this as a luser, rather than as a super user (ie with normal user in a non-wheel group)? Wild speculation.... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: info@scribex.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: converting TIFFs to gif/jpeg and KEEPING color, possible? Date: 28 Apr 1997 17:29:22 GMT Organization: SPC Message-ID: <5k2mpi$el2$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427111819.14691A-100000@kira> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427111819.14691A-100000@kira> Haven't you checked LatinByrd? See: http://www.scribex.com/English/LatinByrd/IntroLatinByrd.html -Andre ======================================== On 04/27/97, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > I've got some small tiffs I'd like to make into gif/jpgs. > > I tried converting them with ToyViewer but they come out greyscale even if > they started in color. > > Is this because I'm using a mono machine? > Would it work if I was doing this on a color machine? > Is there a way to make it work on a mono machine? > > Thanks > TjL > > > -- > TjL <luomat@peak.org> > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ > Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! > Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more. > > > >
From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED PING Date: Mon, 28 Apr 97 18:17:59 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Message-ID: <5k2pmp$g2m@news.jump.net> References: <5jsuap$d08@news.jump.net> Thanx for all the help. Usually, ping has been in /bin or /usr/bin. Guess I'll look harder fro stuff in the future. Matt In article <5jsuap$d08@news.jump.net>, mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) wrote: >Hey all! Anyone know where I can get PING for NS 3.3? I thought this was a >standard UNIX command, but I guess not. > > >Matt >please reply to mseibert@ita1.inow.com, news sux from here
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu Subject: RGB_DB for XNeXT? Message-ID: <ukvohayrk24.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:04:03 GMT Does anyone know where I can get or how I can create this? Or which archive it's in? I just fully installed XNeXT, yet it doesn't exist, and grabbing an rgb.txt file and renaming it to rgb like it wants doesn't work. My twm doesn't know how to define white or black, and it's obviously causing great problems. :) Thanks!
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: "Files not saving properly" in WriteNow etc. Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 14:59:22 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <wnNDC_u00iVG0=1bZK@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5k22no$13o@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <5k22no$13o@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 28-Apr-97 "Files not saving properly".. by Stephen - SysAdmin@music > I've had a number of users report problems recently with "I thought I had > saved the file I was working on, but when I opened it the next day the > changes had not been made". This has apparently occurred in OpenWrite, > Calliope, and WriteNow. Check permissions. Some apps aren't very smart about verifying that they actually have permissions to save the file, and will blindly claim that they succeeded.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NXFax Date: 29 Apr 1997 13:39:16 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5k4tm4$2n0$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> The NXFax order form asks for NextStep version number. I use 3.3, but will be upgrading to 4.2 when it comes out. Will the version for 3.3 work under 4.x? I have been unable to get through to the vendor. Thanks. Randy Jackson -- Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o __o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\, _`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> | (*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\, FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu = Winfried Bergmann | Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page ==========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: BIND 4.9.5-P1 on OPENSTEP 4.x Message-ID: <E9EJA3.L0@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid References: <01bc5395$03ddc7b0$09b429ce@fisher> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:39:39 GMT "Steve Loranz" <sloranz@king.net> wrote: >Has anybody built BIND 4.9.5-P1 on OPENSTEP 4.x? I running into problems There is a BIND-4.9.5 installer package which I created in directory: ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next/Internet Note, that this is a binary-only package and it only replaces named, nslookup and such, it does not install a new libresolv.a or header files. The new named and nslookup do use the BIND 4.9.5 libresolv.a (if I recall correctly). The reason is as follows: NeXT's resolver functions (gethostbyname() and such) are Netinfo-aware, but they still keep the BIND names. Which means that installing (and using) a libresolv.a from BIND would make Netinfo unavailable for programs linked with libresolv.a. NeXT's BIND installation is special, they have renamed all functions to something like _res_gethostbyname(), and the Netinfo-aware functions (like gethostbyname()) call these functions. If I had enough time, I would probably create a way to make a NeXT MachOS compatible libresolv.a that would give you a way to upgrade to BIND 4.9.5 seamlessly. But I do not know what all the naming conventions for NeXT's adaptation of BIND are, so thus far I have kept that project on hold. If someone can give me a reliable mapping between BIND names (like gethostbyname()) and NeXT names for BIND functions (like _res_gethostbyname()), I'll create a complete installer package, also for Developer installations. And don't forget, NeXT's istallation is multiple-architecture (with several endiannesses), so it is quite a bit of work to get the stuff transparantly working. If I only had the time to do it, I would. So far, let's keep it at named and nslookup, that at least gives you the extra security of running BIND 4.9.5. -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt."
From: Jorg.Schumacher@lettres.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Repost Request: Chinese // Japanese WP? Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 17:54:21 +0100 Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <Jorg.Schumacher-2904971754210001@129.194.16.73> References: <E8xBqo.HDK@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <E8xBqo.HDK@midway.uchicago.edu>, b-sady@uchicago.edu wrote: > There was awhile ago a post on how to do Chinese word > processing, Korean, and Japanese word processing on the > NeXT. Any info on foreign language word processing, > especially Asian would be very helpful... > > I use WordPerfect for NeXT 1.00 on a Black Slab, by the > way. > > Thanks > > bryce sady > b-sady@uchicago.edu Try ftp://ftp.ifcss.org/pub/software/ jorg Schumacher
From: Jorg.Schumacher@lettres.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Would Old FrameMaker Win license work? Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 17:50:27 +0100 Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <Jorg.Schumacher-2904971750270001@129.194.16.73> References: <5je7at$hsk$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> In article <5je7at$hsk$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote: > Hello all, > > I just went bargain hunting earlier at a computer warehouse.. (For those > in Vancouver BC it is on Grandview highway and they do have some OLD > stuff.. (they actually have some working ST 506 HDs! but hey that's half > the fun) and came across an old Framemaker for Windows 4 > still sealed in a box but dusty tho.. so it got me thinking would I be > able to get Adobe or Omni or Lighthouse to transfer the license to NS > Frame 3.2? What is the procedure??? > > They are asking for $80 bucks for that thing.. it is just not a software > I would like to run particularly on Windows (especially it seems to be only > in 16 bit!).. but adobe to okay me to give me a new license and NS > binaries or if I can get that license to work with NS.. I would gladly > get it.. > > Experiences? Comments?? > > Thanks, > > Godwin Being entitled to the use of Framemaker for the main platforms through a campus site licence, I asked Adobe whether they would provide me with a password to use Frame 3.2 on the Next. I wasn't honoured with an answer. The local representative couldn't help either; in fact I believe they didn't get an anwer either. Also I won't start to describe an unforgettable experience with their phone support. I paid about 20 dollars to have the question answered whether Framemaker was really unable to do a qualified find, f.e. to find the word "frame" written in italics. The answer, after a very long check: It can't. But of course Framemaker is in many other respects an execellent application and I will be grateful to any information about getting a licence from this selfsufficient lot at Adobe. J. Schumacher University of Geneva Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: CD-ROM Movies possible on black cube ? Message-ID: <E9Er08.KKE@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: emclean@slip.net Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 16:26:31 GMT References: <5k428n$7hk@slip.net> In comp.sys.next.software Emmett McLean wrote: > I'm about to buy a TV, but if for about the price > of one I could buy a fast external CD-ROM for my > NeXT Cube and watch CD-ROM videos I'd rather go > with that. Is it possible to purchase a video driver > from, say, deepspacetech, and get some software > to watch CD-ROM movies? Assuming you have a color cube, then you have a NeXTDimension board. The ND board has 2 SVHS video inputs in the back. You can just hook up a VCR or DVD player to one of these inputs and use the NeXT video application in /NextDeveloper/Demos to watch the video in a window on the screen. No additional software required. Better movie selection, too. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "A distributed system is one in which the failure of a computer you didn't even know existed can render your own computer unusable." --- Les Lamport
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Auto-display a TIFF? Date: 29 Apr 1997 19:10:46 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5k5h3m$re@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> References: <5jliv3$51j@unity.westfalen.de> Peter, In article <5jliv3$51j@unity.westfalen.de> peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) writes: >Hi Felipe, > >nice idea but it don t function > >/usr/local/bin/tiffview /LocalLibrary/Images/Familie/Alexandra.tiff >Uncaught exception #1000 > tiffview does seem to be very picky about what is a valid tiff file. I've played with it a bit and it does'nt seem to like tiff's with alpha. The author's man page points out a couple of other problems: SH BUGS Does not understand compressed .tiff files and will usually crash with them. Can only handle images up to about 5 inches square. Larger ones apparently overflow something in the server or in the DPS library. >do you know abou this hacks for me nothing runs starting with >doubleclick flash and away :-( > >peter > >-- > peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) >Peter Kopatzki Am Bredberg 21 D-49143 Schledehausen > "The only purpose of life is Bliss" -Go and create it! > NeXTmail, MIME and SUN Solaris welcome > URL Firma:http://www.globalsalesnetwork.com > URL Privat:http://www.globalsalesnetwork.com/Private.html > Phone:+49(0)5402 98050 > Public Key on request -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEED PING Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:34:05 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970429133245.17796D-100000@kira> References: <5jsuap$d08@news.jump.net> <5k2pmp$g2m@news.jump.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Matt Seibert <mseibert@ita1.inow.com> In-Reply-To: <5k2pmp$g2m@news.jump.net> > Thanx for all the help. Usually, ping has been in /bin or /usr/bin. Guess > I'll look harder fro stuff in the future. Linux has put it there... Sun and NeXT have it in /usr/etc/ ... 'mkfile' is another handy tool that got hidden in there.... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: converting TIFFs to gif/jpeg and KEEPING color, possible? Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:38:32 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970429133433.17796E-100000@kira> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427111819.14691A-100000@kira> <5k2mpi$el2$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: info@scribex.com In-Reply-To: <5k2mpi$el2$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> On 28 Apr 1997 info@scribex.com wrote: > Haven't you checked LatinByrd? > See: > http://www.scribex.com/English/LatinByrd/IntroLatinByrd.html Yes, I even did some Beta testing... although I didn't have a lot of time @ the time and didn't really find any bugs (I wasn't trying to do anything complex) Unfortunately I am not in a position to buy software, and was hoping to find a freewware way to do this... so far I've not had much luck, both suggestions Iv've had before this have failed because the tiffs in question have 'alpha' channels or something like that TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GateKeeper ip-up/ip-down? Date: 29 Apr 1997 22:35:30 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5k5t3i$1lr2@news.doit.wisc.edu> What's the trick with getting the ip-up and ip-down scripts working with GateKeeper 2.1b7. I have both files in my *.Gate wrapper, both are read+ executable and the paths in preferences are OK. However, neither ever get run. What calls these up? GateKeeper app or one of the other scripts? Also, is there any way to avoid putting your password hardcoded into the ppup script? That's one thing I really liked about SlipCommander. I'd much prefer if GateKeeper prompted for your password the first time it tried to dial in and remembered it (suitably encrypted) if it ever needed to redail. Felipe, you listening... :-) - Gareth -- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: "Heath Tucker" <heatht@sprynet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Networking NeXT Date: 30 Apr 1997 00:33:40 GMT Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <01bc540c$ba71eb60$dad6afce@default> Can anyone tell me where I can find some networking resources, FAQs, etc. for NeXT? I have looked but can't seem to locate any. Any help is greatly appreciated. Heath Tucker
From: markfr@markfr .cse.tek.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: original text in reply from Mail Date: 30 Apr 1997 00:41:52 GMT Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR USA Distribution: USA Message-ID: <5k64gg$nl1$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> Does anyone know how I can set the Next mail program to insert the sender's original text when replying to a message? - Thanks, Mark markfr@markfr.cse.tek.com
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for chess Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:29:27 -0400 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <3366A077.6B15@smart.net> References: <max-1604972024080001@blv-pm107-ip1.halcyon.com> <mitchell.allen-1704972301540001@165.cincinnati-001.oh.dial-access.att.net> <max-1804971051100001@blv-pm111-ip17.halcyon.com> <33599377.4EC2@smart.net> <max-2104971236290001@blv-pm103-ip2.halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Max Pinton wrote: > > In article <33599377.4EC2@smart.net>, gh@smart.net wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to find a free/shareware chess app for NS 3.0 Moto. I > found one > > > > > on Peanuts, but it was source only... > > Try ftp://caissa.onenet.net/pub/chess/NeXT/... > Hmm. I tried downloading GNUchess, but it looks like source only... Ask someone with Black hardware to NeXTmail you their copy of NeXTchess. You'll need to supply your email address though. I have an Intel computer, otherwise I'd send you mine. --gh
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SafetyNet like backup software for Windows NT Date: 30 Apr 1997 02:59:34 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <5k6cim$of5$2@dropit.pgh.net> I posted a while ago on this but got no answer. I love SafetyNet and I hate NT's native backup software. Has anybody seen anything for NT that looks like SafetyNet? I especially like the online archives. ------ Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GateKeeper ip-up/ip-down? Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:19:49 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970429201548.8736B-100000@kira> References: <5k5t3i$1lr2@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu In-Reply-To: <5k5t3i$1lr2@news.doit.wisc.edu> > What's the trick with getting the ip-up and ip-down scripts working with > GateKeeper 2.1b7. I have both files in my *.Gate wrapper, both are read+ > executable and the paths in preferences are OK. However, neither ever get > run. What calls these up? GateKeeper app or one of the other scripts? Did you try linking them to /etc/ppp/ip-up|down > Also, is there any way to avoid putting your password hardcoded into the > ppup script? That's one thing I really liked about SlipCommander. I'd much > prefer if GateKeeper prompted for your password the first time it tried to > dial in and remembered it (suitably encrypted) if it ever needed to redail. If there's a weakness to all the PPP I've seen is that the password might appear in 'ps' or in the PPP log... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: original text in reply from Mail Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:23:57 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970429202239.8736D-100000@kira> References: <5k64gg$nl1$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: markfr@markfr.cse.tek.com In-Reply-To: <5k64gg$nl1$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> Assuming you are using at least NeXTStep 3.3, you can use EnhanceMail: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/EnhanceMail.2.0b5.NIHS.bs.tar.gz Otherwise you can use TickleServices, but that takes more installation process... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How do I play a sound from stdin? Date: 30 Apr 1997 06:36:12 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <5k6p8s$a0k$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> The sndplay app that comes with NS requires a filename and I can't find a sound player that will simply read from standard input. Recording to standard output would be nice to do also, but is less important. Does anybody know of a way to trick sndplay or know of another app? Thanks... Kurt :-) ...................................................................... : Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin : : kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 : :....................................................................:
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GateKeeper ip-up/ip-down? Date: 30 Apr 1997 07:59:43 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5k6u5f$neg@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> References: <5k5t3i$1lr2@news.doit.wisc.edu> In article <5k5t3i$1lr2@news.doit.wisc.edu> bestor@cs.wisc.edu writes: >What's the trick with getting the ip-up and ip-down scripts working with >GateKeeper 2.1b7. I have both files in my *.Gate wrapper, both are read+ >executable and the paths in preferences are OK. However, neither ever get >run. What calls these up? GateKeeper app or one of the other scripts? > >Also, is there any way to avoid putting your password hardcoded into the >ppup script? That's one thing I really liked about SlipCommander. I'd much >prefer if GateKeeper prompted for your password the first time it tried to >dial in and remembered it (suitably encrypted) if it ever needed to redail. > >Felipe, you listening... :-) > :-) Please forgive me if I generally don't reply to ppp questions in the newsgroups. I do this out of a fear of being deluged with questions and in deference to the authors of the free NS ppp port who prefer that Q&A be posted to the ppp mailing list. As Timothy Luoma points out in his post you need to link or place ip-up and ip-down to be in your /etc directory. At the appropriate time pppd will call them if they exist. See man pppd for further details. As for the encryption of passwords you have a valid point. This and other issues regarding tighter integration with and configuration of ppp are possibilities. For the moment if you just want to keep your password from showing up in log files etc... try placing a \q in front of your actual password. Something like: # # Entering password # "\qmyPassword" "" >- Gareth > >-- >Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu >Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor >University of Wisconsin-Madison -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: gback@teleport.com (George Back & Diane McManus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: TypeView for NeXT Computers - For Sale $9.99 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 07:09:13 -0800 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Sender: -yp- @ip-longv1-12.teleport.com Message-ID: <gback-3004970709140001@ip-longv1-12.teleport.com> If interested, go to http://www.ebay.com/aw-cgi/seller-list.cgi?email=gback@teleport.com A friend that bought a copy told us "The original retail price was $129" and "TypeView for NeXT turned out to have been a great deal." -------------------------------------------------------- Description: TypeView for NeXT Computers "A complete software package for understanding, accessing, and using all features of fonts" TypeView is the perfect companion product for any Desktop Publishing, Illustration, or Presentation Software Package. TypeView allows you to quickly view the entire character set of a particular font, locate an unusual character and copy and paste into your document, and allow you to see paragraphs of text in many type families, styles and sizes. All of TypeView's features allow you to quickly analyze text and access characters in your font file. TypeView works within the NeXT services framework and can be launched by opening font files. It lets you spend more time being creative, imaginative, and more resourceful. If you are an expert graphic designer, TypeView can expose the subtleties of typefaces-details that are often hidden by the computer. Even if you have only a limited knowledge of typefaces, TypeView can greatly improve your access and control of typefaces and type attributes. (Yes, all the above came right off the package.) System Requirements: You need to have a NeXT Computer. Other than that I don't know. Sorry. What's in the package? What's in the package? Everything -- it's brand new and never been opened! -------------------------------------------------------- If interested, go to http://www.ebay.com/aw-cgi/seller-list.cgi?email=gback@teleport.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "John Hills" <jhills@ultranet.ca> Subject: Re: Where are all the extras in 3.3? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software References: <33614977.6DB8@xsf.com> Message-ID: <01bc5581$352cc580$8cbf66cf@kyushu.infoserve.net> Date: 30 Apr 97 16:18:10 GMT Kevin Birch <kbirch@xsf.com> wrote in article <33614977.6DB8@xsf.com>... > Hello all, > > I recently installed 3.3 User on an HP and am enjoying it so far. I > hadn't used > NeXTSTEP for a long time, but as I recall, it used to come with lots of > extra > niceities. Things like Shakespeare's writings, Oxford Dictionary of > Quotations, > WriteNow, Mathematica, Allegro Common Lisp, and Sybase's SQL server, > etc. What > happened to all this cool stuff? > > Kevin The operative phrase is "used to come with". They've all been dropped. BTW my NS2.0 OD is futzed and thanks to an inadequate backup strategy (fixed) I lost my copy of WriteNow. If anyone out there would be kind enough to send it to me, I'd be v.grateful. I'm sure it would be legal, since I still have my old 1.0 and 2.0 ODs. The Date App from 2.0 would be nice too.... John Hills jhills@ultraserve.ca
From: Bill Kooiman <billk@apl.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How do I play a sound from stdin? Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 09:33:41 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <33677465.41C6@apl.washington.edu> References: <5k6p8s$a0k$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kurt D. Bollacker wrote: > > The sndplay app that comes with NS requires a filename and I can't find a sound > player that will simply read from standard input. Recording to standard > output would be nice to do also, but is less important. > > Does anybody know of a way to trick sndplay or know of another app? I modified playtest.c from the NextDeveloper/Examples a couple of years ago to do this. Its not really a polished program, but I'll send you a copy via NextMail in case you don't find anything else. --Bill Kooiman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mvlems@vbox.xs4all.nl (Mark F. Vlems) Subject: Re: NXFax Message-ID: <1997Apr30.174245.29189@vbox.xs4all.nl> Sender: mvlems@vbox.xs4all.nl (Mark F. Vlems) Cc: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu References: <5k4tm4$2n0$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 17:42:45 GMT In <5k4tm4$2n0$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Randy Jackson wrote: > The NXFax order form asks for NextStep version number. I use 3.3, > but will be upgrading to 4.2 when it comes out. Will the version > for 3.3 work under 4.x? >... The NXFax (1.04) which I purchased to run with NS 3.1, also works fine with NS 4.0. At least it does here... --- Mark F. Vlems Poor is the man, MIME Mail OK Whose pleasures depend NeXTMail preferred! On the permission of another. Fax: +31 (0) 23 5622368 Madonna in "Justify my love", 1990
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Software I've compiled (sharing data from Apple Newton) Message-ID: <cdoutyE9GzCI.6yv@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> <5k0d7g$3pss@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 21:21:54 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom12.netcom.com In article <5k0d7g$3pss@news.doit.wisc.edu>, Michael Giddings <giddings.nospam@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu> wrote: >In <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu >wrote: >> Hey all... >> I've been thinking about uploading some software for black to the >> archives. But before I do so, I was just wondering if there was any >[snip] >> * newtl-1.8 - a UNIX shell-based communication interface between a NeXT >> slab and an Apple Newton I'll second this! Please upload the newt program. I have an MP2000 and would like to be able to get to attach it to my NS boxes. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: WebStep still around?! Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 16:36:15 -0600 Organization: Illinois State University- Instructional Technology Services Message-ID: <3367C951.2ED8@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know if WebStep's still around?! WebStep: Summary: a standards effort for W3-aware document management ``The mission of WebStep is to bring developers together to build a small, open set of tools to facilitate W3 work under NeXTSTEP/OpenStep'' The two sites I know of don't respond... http://xent.w3.org/~khare/WebStep.htmld/ http://xent.caltech.edu/~khare/WebStep.htmld/ Thx. -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 ASCII, MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail R&D@Instructional Technology Services@Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" -Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail.app and the Workspace addressbooks Date: 30 Apr 1997 23:04:16 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <SHAFFER.97Apr30190416@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> Hello, I like Mail.app but I am finding it quite annoying to maintain two address books. Cutting and pasting works fine for one address but you can't get Mail.app to send a message to a group that way. Are there any bundles or services that can expidite using the Workspace address book to form Mail.app mail headers. I'm not allergic to writing such applets if someone could give me a pointer the the Mail.app API information. BTW, I have checked out Mynah but for the moment I'd prefer to stick to Mail.app. That is, I'd hate to change to Mynah just to get this simple feature. Plus, Mail.app is free. Any hints would be appreciated! David Shaffer -- David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 shaffer@phyast.pitt.edu NeXTMail/MIME welcome
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software I've compiled (sharing data from Apple Newton) Date: 30 Apr 1997 23:08:30 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5k8jde$t0@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> <5k0d7g$3pss@news.doit.wisc.edu> <cdoutyE9GzCI.6yv@netcom.com> Cc: cdouty@netcom.com In <cdoutyE9GzCI.6yv@netcom.com> Chris Douty wrote: > In article <5k0d7g$3pss@news.doit.wisc.edu>, > Michael Giddings <giddings.nospam@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu> wrote: > >In <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu > >wrote: > >> Hey all... > >> I've been thinking about uploading some software for black to the > >> archives. But before I do so, I was just wondering if there was any > >[snip] > >> * newtl-1.8 - a UNIX shell-based communication interface between a NeXT > >> slab and an Apple Newton > > I'll second this! Please upload the newt program. > > I have an MP2000 and would like to be able to get to attach it to my NS > boxes. > -Chris > I too would like this. there is an app that works from Linux and Solaris, but I haven't seen one for NeXT(OPEN)Step. before I wasn't sure I would use it because I would have to power down the NeXT to connect the Newton, but one of the machines here isn't up 24/7 (goes off at night) and now it would work. please, I would hope that any such app would support Newton OS 1.x as well as 2.x. -- Rick Sanford Dental Records[R] dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/ We're moving! Soon we'll be at: www.dentalrecords.com
From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse Applications end of life!? Date: 1 May 1997 00:38:13 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Distribution: world Message-ID: <5k8oll$499c@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5k5e5o$1va@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> In <5k5e5o$1va@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> Rob Blessin wrote: > Hello NeXT/Apple Community: > > Rumor has it that there is a very strong probability that Lighthouse > could end of life their entire product line diue in part of a lack of > support for Bug Fixes from NeXT/Apple. [Snip] I had a brief e-mail exchange with them about this several months ago - I was encouraging them to port the apps and they said they were considering it, but were waiting to see if there was "customer demand". If you are a customer of Lighthouse's who wants to see any of your favorite apps on Rhapsody (mine are Diagram & Concurrence), drop them a friendly note! info@lighthouse.com Remove .nospam to reply to me. -- Michael Giddings giddings.nospam@chem.wisc.edu giddings.nospam@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://smithlab.chem.wisc.edu/PersonalPages/giddings/giddings.html http://www.barbarian.com
From: Ian Calegory <ian@seinesys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AIX and Irix WebObjects Adapters Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 18:57:48 -0600 Organization: Seine Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <3367EA8C.E7CB367A@seinesys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello. Does anyone know of WebObjects Adapters for AIX and Irix? We would like to have Web servers on our AIX and Irix machines pass WebObjects requests to our NT machine that has WebObjects on it. Does anybody know if this is possible? Thanks, Ian -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Ian Calegory | ian@seinesys.com | | Software Engineer | www.seinesys.com | | Seine Systems, Inc. | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Ian Calegory <ian@seinesys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AIX and Irix WebObjects Adapter Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 18:51:47 -0600 Organization: Seine Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <3367E923.2862EAB0@seinesys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello. Does anyone know of WebObjects Adapters for AIX and Irix? We would like to have Web servers on our AIX and Irix machines pass WebObjects requests to our NT machine that has WebObjects on it. Does anybody know if this is possible? Thanks, Ian -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Ian Calegory | ian@seinesys.com | | Software Engineer | www.seinesys.com | | Seine Systems, Inc. | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Ian Calegory <ian@seinesys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AIX and Irix WebObjects Adapter Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 18:48:30 -0600 Organization: Seine Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <3367E85E.B640F9A6@seinesys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello. Does anyone know of WebObjects Adapters for AIX and Irix? We would like to have Web servers on our AIX and Irix machines pass WebObjects requests to our NT machine that has WebObjects on it. Does anybody know if this is possible? Thanks, Ian -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Ian Calegory | ian@seinesys.com | | Software Engineer | www.seinesys.com | | Seine Systems, Inc. | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: NEXTTOYOU wants your MailTIFFs Date: 23 Apr 1997 00:45:03 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5jjm2f$310@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5j1fva$a22$1@news.digifix.com> <5j3cph$l68$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5j5lbj$222@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <E91x72.JL@shinto.nbg.sub.org> tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) wrote: > I personally like the idea of X-Image-URL...even for news it > would be a good idea. The currently problem is that the Image > URL stuff is limited to direct access. Now IMHO it would be a > really nice addition to the Enhance Mail Bundle to support some > kind of "Maintain list of Image-URLs to be fetched". [...] > An additional button ("Fetch missing X-Images") could trigger a bulk fetch. This is a very nice idea, actually. Bye Uli _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: Ian Calegory <ian@seinesys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AIX and Irix WebObjects Adapters Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 19:12:49 -0600 Organization: Seine Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <3367EE11.AD527083@seinesys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello. Does anyone know of WebObjects Adapters for AIX and Irix? We would like to have Web servers on our AIX and Irix machines pass WebObjects requests to our NT machine that has WebObjects on it. Does anybody know if this is possible? Thanks, Ian -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Ian Calegory | ian@seinesys.com | | Software Engineer | www.seinesys.com | | Seine Systems, Inc. | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Rich@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: All writers seeking publication Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:59:31 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5k90tr$m6c@chile.earthlink.net> Now*accepting <new> and <previously published> writers for publication. We are a NEW=YORK based international literary agency with three offices: 2 in NEW=YORK and one in <FLORIDA.> <Please follow guidelines for submission:> For ALL fiction, including screenplays for TV & Movies: Send us a <brief synopsis>, the first chapter, and include a self-addressed, stamped envelope=S.A.S.E. Short Stories: Send brief synopsis, 3 pages, S.A.S.E. Poetry: Send 3 poems, S.A.S.E. For ALL nonfiction: Send us a <brief synopsis>, the first chapter, and include a S.A.S.E. Do not send complete manuscript unless invited. <WOODSIDE=INTERNATIONAL=LITERARY=AGENCY> <Thirty Three Twenty Nine 58 St.> <Wood-Side, New York> <zip: 1.1.3.7.7> <(Tel)=={718}=651=8145>
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where are all the extras in 3.3? Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 20:58:30 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970430205536.22283B-100000@kira> References: <33614977.6DB8@xsf.com> <01bc5581$352cc580$8cbf66cf@kyushu.infoserve.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: John Hills <jhills@ultranet.ca> In-Reply-To: <01bc5581$352cc580$8cbf66cf@kyushu.infoserve.net> > my NS2.0 OD is futzed and thanks to an inadequate backup strategy (fixed) I > lost my copy of WriteNow. If anyone out there would be kind enough to send > it to me, I'd be v.grateful. I'm sure it would be legal, since I still have > my old 1.0 and 2.0 ODs. The Date App from 2.0 would be nice too.... The Date app is at: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/next/Developer/demos_nextstep2.1/Date.2.1.N.b.gnutar.gz I've got WriteNow somewhere if you don't get anotehr response... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> < Damned pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
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From: gregor@crosslink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Networking NeXT Date: 1 May 1997 06:33:06 GMT Organization: Fighter Grafix Message-ID: <5k9df2$iah$1@kronos.crosslink.net> References: <01bc540c$ba71eb60$dad6afce@default> Cc: heatht@sprynet.com In <01bc540c$ba71eb60$dad6afce@default> "Heath Tucker" wrote: > > Can anyone tell me where I can find some networking resources, FAQs, etc. > for NeXT? I have looked but can't seem to locate any. Any help is greatly > appreciated. > > Heath Tucker > Try accessing NeXTAnswer #1013 at http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1013.htmld/1013.html Title "Behind the Scenes of NeXT Networking"
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software I've compiled Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 12:56:42 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E9CMMJ.454@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> In article <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu writes: > * jug - animates siteswap patterns for jugglers (curses interface) > > * juggle - another curses siteswap animator, fewer features, but better > animation NeXTStep Jugglers should also try Boris.app (end of shamless plug) $an
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Software I've compiled (sharing data from Apple Newton) Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E9HBuo.3uy@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 01:52:00 GMT References: <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> <5k0d7g$3pss@news.doit.wisc.edu> <cdoutyE9GzCI.6yv@netcom.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <cdoutyE9GzCI.6yv@netcom.com>, Chris Douty <cdouty@netcom.com> wrote: >In article <5k0d7g$3pss@news.doit.wisc.edu>, >Michael Giddings <giddings.nospam@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu> wrote: >>In <ukv67x9hgwb.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> fugue@nospam.ccp.uchicago.edu >>wrote: >>> Hey all... >>> I've been thinking about uploading some software for black to the >>> archives. But before I do so, I was just wondering if there was any >>[snip] >>> * newtl-1.8 - a UNIX shell-based communication interface between a NeXT >>> slab and an Apple Newton > >I'll second this! Please upload the newt program. > That would be nice to have, provided it will talk to the meek MP100 I have around here somwhere (and preferrably also comes with cable wiring instructions.) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: joerd@mail.wsu.edu Subject: Latex2e Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Message-ID: <970501075538.198AAFgZ.wayne@pareto> Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 15:55:38 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Organization: Washington State University I am looking for a Latex2e release `1995/12/01'. I have a release `1995/06/01' from ftp.ens.fr/pub/dmi/users/dicosmo/SW/TeX/Latex2E.I.pkg.tar. Can anybody point me to a more recent release. What about teTeX? Thanks in advance, Wayne Joerding Professor of Economics Ofc: 509-335-6468 Washington State University FAX: 509-335-4362 PO Box 644741 http://cbeunix.cbe.wsu.edu/~joerd/ Pullman WA 99164 email: joerd@mail.wsu.edu "Stupidity always has the chance of being a capital offense."
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From: kelley@mudpot.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse Applications end of life!? Date: 1 May 1997 13:53:06 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <5ka782$3fmq@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> References: <5k5e5o$1va@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> <5k8oll$499c@news.doit.wisc.edu> >> Rumor has it that there is a very strong probability that Lighthouse >> could end of life their entire product line diue in part of a lack of >> support for Bug Fixes from NeXT/Apple. >[Snip] > >I had a brief e-mail exchange with them about this several months ago - I >was encouraging them to port the apps and they said they were considering >it, but were waiting to see if there was "customer demand". > >If you are a customer of Lighthouse's who wants to see any of your favorite >apps on Rhapsody (mine are Diagram & Concurrence), drop them a friendly >note! i'm afraid the point is moot. i've been contacting them on a regular basis now since end of last year and they've always told me to call them back "next month". this month i could get no one on the phone so i emailed and i was told that the apps like Diagram, Quantrix, and the like were NeXTSTEP apps and there was no longer going to be support for these. and, of course, i was told to check the web page which is completely useless and misleading imho. i wrote back explaining, again, that i was on an OpenStep platform (solaris to be specific) and asked if ports were being made to OPENSTEP and also asked if the previous mail meant all of the non-java related apps of old were being tossed in the trash (in a nice way, of course) and i received no further replies. what i make out of this, is that old favorites like diagram, et al are zu toasten. kelley wittmeyer dept of atmospheric science colorado state university
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NeXT Security holes & Fixes Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 13:33:37 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Development - Illinois State University, Bloomington-Normal, USA Message-ID: <3368EFAF.155F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just ran across this site from Ric Ford's Macintouch MacWEEK article, and it provides the following... Programs Security holes Affected NS versions Fixes http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/progs/index.html -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11--MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D--Instructional Technology Development--Illinois State University "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away."-Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc CEO VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NeXT Security holes & Fixes Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 12:33:51 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123234.26749A-100000@kira> References: <3368EFAF.155F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3368EFAF.155F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> > I just ran across this site from Ric Ford's Macintouch MacWEEK article, > and it provides the following... > > Programs Security holes Affected NS versions Fixes > > http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/progs/index.html Yup... it's been listed on my (anemic) NeXTStep security page for over a month and a half.... A lot of handy stuff there TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> < Damned pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GCC 2.7.2.2 Help Date: Fri, 02 May 97 00:00:46 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Message-ID: <5kbata$38e@news.jump.net> I got the gcc-2.7.2.2 tar.gz from Peak the other night, and am now trying to install it. I have a Mono Turbo (68k station), and have untarred the file. It looks like I'm supposed to create a /.configure file (from the root I assume) and do some other twists, but the only 68k processors it lists are Sony, SUN, HP, Altos, "crds-unox", and "bull-sysv" Which of these should I use? Does anyone have the config files that they could mail to me so I can see what I am trying to do? Thanx! Matt please reply to mseibert@ita1.inow.com, news sux from here
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Opener.app quietly quitting .. LaunchBar acting weird... Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 16:43:18 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501162742.24483B-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: deniseh@best.com Suddenly on my Intel machine, Opener.app launches... and then quits... no error message to console. Same result whether I double click a tar.gz or try and launch it directly. gdb reports "Program exited normally." So.... anyone wanna tell me why? It was working just fine... then it stopped... Before that, LaunchBar stopped responding to command-space (yes the preferences are OK) and it does not unhide apps that are already running, it just launches a new one... OpenStep 4.1... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> < Greatly pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fiend under OpenStep Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 19:52:16 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501195046.18116A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Fiend app doesn't seem to be hiding the apps it launches.... it will hide the apps that are running when it starts, but then it no longer hides them... anyone else seeing a similar thing or is it just me? TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> < Greatly pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Latex2e Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 10:09:07 +0200 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <3369A123.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <970501075538.198AAFgZ.wayne@pareto> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit joerd@mail.wsu.edu wrote: > > I am looking for a Latex2e release `1995/12/01'. I have a release > `1995/06/01' from ftp.ens.fr/pub/dmi/users/dicosmo/SW/TeX/Latex2E.I.pkg.tar. > > Can anybody point me to a more recent release. What about teTeX? > see Gregor's summary: http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX/ Stefan -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 09:11:35 -0600 From: epeyton@cmg.fcnbd.com Subject: Upgraded to Openstep : lost my /dev/cufb? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <862581651.14733@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service To: epeyton@cmg.fcnbd.com Hi all, I just finished upgrading my machine to Openstep 4.2pr1 (from NS3.3) and everything went fine... at least I thought it did until I tried to dial out with my machine. I am using DialUp.app and I also tried Gatekeeper however both give the same message /dev/cufb no such device. Now I've checked /dev and a cufb is there. I checked my Serial Ports in Configure and those were fine. I tried other serial port /dev/cufa and recieved the same problem. Everything was fine the day before I upgraded and I can dial out fine from my Win 95 side of the same machine. Does anyone have any ideas??? Please respond to my e-mail as well as my Usenet service is sporadic at best. Thanks, Eric Peyton epeyton@cmg.fcnbd.com -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: powell@aoml.noaa.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB Keyboards and X emulation Date: 2 May 1997 13:45:20 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <5kcr5g$br5@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> I'm having problems getting Cub'X5.0 to run properly on a NSturbo color with ADB. If I have an xterm up na dstart typing I get wierd characters. for instance the "e" in telnet will not show. NeXTanswers 1070 states: The new display and ADB keyboard are not yet fully compatible with some third-party software, specifically packages such as X Window emulators and SoftPC(TM). All third-party software applications that communicate directly to the keyboard, such as software emulators, will have problems working with the new keyboard. But that was dated fall of '92. I'm wondering if somehow it could be related to my booting off an external HD that was originally configured to work with a non adb machine (NS Color). I'm using NS 3.3 and my new hw uses ROM v.74 Any advice out there? -- Dr. Mark D. Powell powell@aoml.noaa.gov Research Meteorologist, (Member, NOAA '96 Olympics Marine Forecast Team) (Swimmer, IMCO Windsurfer, NEXTSTEP advocate) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149
From: nospamthanx@nowhere.com (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse Applications end of life!? Date: 2 May 1997 14:13:52 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5kcsr0$gje@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5k5e5o$1va@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> <5k8oll$499c@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5ka782$3fmq@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> In-Reply-To: <5ka782$3fmq@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> On 05/01/97, kelley@mudpot.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu wrote: >what i make out of this, is that old favorites like diagram, et al >are zu toasten. Wait! There may be reason to hope that we'll see the great Lighthouse apps under Rhapsody. Here's a snip from a note I had from Monty Grubb yesterday, after I sent an inquiry on that subject: >I understand where you are coming from.. I've been using nextstep for >over seven years and I can't live without these apps either. Of >course I can't comment on any unannounced products, but believe me, we >are not simply going to throw away some of the best software ever. >All I can say, is watch our web site for future announcements... ><http://www.lighthouse.com> Monty went on to quote the "offical response", which says only that they are "evaluating ports of selected products to the Rhapsody environment, but have made no announcements at this time". This sounds to me like "not under OS4.x, but very probably under Rhapsody", which I think is a very encouraging answer. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970502.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970409.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970416.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 02 May 1997 07:00:00 -0600 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Last-modified: 1997-Apr-03 FAQ-Last-modified: 1997-Apr-29 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> and also at <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend under OpenStep Date: 2 May 1997 11:56:01 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <5kd2qh$9km@panix.com> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501195046.18116A-100000@kira> In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501195046.18116A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: >Fiend app doesn't seem to be hiding the apps it launches.... it will hide >the apps that are running when it starts, but then it no longer hides >them... anyone else seeing a similar thing or is it just me? I'm running Fiend v1.4.1 on OS4.1 with no problems. -- David C. Lambert dcl@panix.com (finger for PGP 2.6.2 public key) (key fingerprint "5F 88 1A 54 3C EA DA FA F5 8E 0B 68 48 4C 02 48")
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse Applications end of life!? Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 11:56:11 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Development - Illinois State University, Bloomington-Normal, USA Message-ID: <336A2A31.7AF4@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <5k5e5o$1va@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> <5k8oll$499c@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5ka782$3fmq@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <5kcsr0$gje@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary Finley wrote: > This sounds to me like "not under OS4.x, but very probably under > Rhapsody", which I think is a very encouraging answer. 'Not really, since Rhapsody also supports Java, and these could be JUST JAVA PORTS that'll work on Rhapsody and any other Java VM... :( -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11--MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D--Instructional Technology Development--Illinois State University "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away."-Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc CEO VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: converting TIFFs to gif/jpeg and KEEPING color, possible? Message-ID: <E9Juv4.2uM@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427111819.14691A-100000@kira> Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 10:37:52 GMT In article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427111819.14691A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: > > I've got some small tiffs I'd like to make into gif/jpgs. > > I tried converting them with ToyViewer but they come out greyscale even > if they started in color. > > Is this because I'm using a mono machine? > Would it work if I was doing this on a color machine? > Is there a way to make it work on a mono machine? > I tested this with ImageViewer.app. It converts correctly on a monochrome machine. TIFFs don't convert to GIF, though, only TIFF to JPEG possible. I think it's worth a try, anyway. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: wbrown@neosoft.com (W. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Presto/Sequencer? Music software? Date: 2 May 1997 17:23:48 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <5kd7v4$c77@uuneo.neosoft.com> Hello folks ... I've started dabbling with music, and DSP synthesis on my NeXTstation ... I've tried out some of the sequencer programs ... one particular piece of software, Pinnacle Research's Presto/Sequencer program caught my eye. After trying it out, I've decided that I want to buy a license for it.. However, it seems that Pinnacle Research is defunct? A whois for the email address they have in the program shows an entirely different corporation. If Pinnacle Research is defunct, then how would I find the commercial version of their program? Or a license key? I'd love to be able to save the music pieces that I compose on my NeXT. On another note, does anyone have reccomendations for commercial sequencer software for the NeXT? I'd like it to be able to use the DSP synth, if at all. Thanks, Wes Brown wbrown@starbase.neosoft.com
From: gvh@solutionhouse.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse Applications end of life!? Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 10:28:46 -0700 Organization: SOLUTIONHOUSE Message-ID: <gvh-0205971028460001@emerson.digasylum.com> References: <5k5e5o$1va@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> <5k8oll$499c@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5ka782$3fmq@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <5kcsr0$gje@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <336A2A31.7AF4@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> In article <336A2A31.7AF4@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu wrote: > 'Not really, since Rhapsody also supports Java, and these could be JUST > JAVA PORTS that'll work on Rhapsody and any other Java VM... :( Good for them... Gordon ---- Gordon Van Huizen gvh@solutionhouse.com The OBJECTFACTORY at SOLUTIONHOUSE http://www.objectfactory.com http://www.solutionhouse.com
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fiend under OpenStep Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 09:59:07 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970502095742.5010A-100000@kira> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501195046.18116A-100000@kira> <5kd2qh$9km@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "David C. Lambert" <dcl@panix.com> In-Reply-To: <5kd2qh$9km@panix.com> On 2 May 1997, David C. Lambert wrote: > In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501195046.18116A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: > >Fiend app doesn't seem to be hiding the apps it launches.... it will hide > >the apps that are running when it starts, but then it no longer hides > >them... anyone else seeing a similar thing or is it just me? > > I'm running Fiend v1.4.1 on OS4.1 with no problems. Logging out and logging back in seems to have worked.... Thanks for the response.... sorry for the bother... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> < Greatly pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Info] More than 2,000 pages about NEXTSTEP Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 20:07:15 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Message-ID: <970503050715.584AAGhF.root@color> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII [Info] More than 2,000 pages about NEXTSTEP http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/qa You can get any info about following softwares and hardwares, but You need to know Korean language. . NEXTSTEP 3.3J, OPENSTEP 4.1J, Rhapsody, Korean Languge Kit. . Graphics: TIFFany, solidThingking, Creat, SuperDraw, Virtuoso, OneVision... . Internet: Omniweb, Gatekeeper, PPP 2.3, HNNews, Eloquent, RadicalNews... . NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP hardwares, . And Business, Commuications, Tools, Network, Utilities, Music, Mathematics...etc. You can use more than 2,000 pages about NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody. Regards, younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, SGI O2 Q&A board written in Korean)
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener.app quietly quitting .. LaunchBar acting weird... Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 10:52:22 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970502104400.11892A-100000@kira> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501162742.24483B-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: deniseh@best.com, jason@bifrostworks.com, dkramer@bifrostworks.com, Norbert Heger <bertl@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501162742.24483B-100000@kira> Well, I'm not sure what happened.... but I wondered if this would help: find /LocalApps/Opener.app -print |xargs chown luomat same for LaunchBar...... they both work now... Duh... you'd think I'd never used a UNIX system before... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> < Greatly pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: powell@aoml.noaa.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ADB Keyboards and X emulation Date: 2 May 1997 20:41:57 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <5kdjil$hse@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> References: <5kcr5g$br5@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> Claire Normand of Intuitive Systems emailed me that a patch to Cub'X is available. I downloaded it and will try it out this weekend. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Mark D. Powell powell@aoml.noaa.gov Research Meteorologist, (Member, NOAA '96 Olympics Marine Forecast Team) (Swimmer, IMCO Windsurfer, V15 Fleet Cap'n, NEXTSTEP advocate) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FTP with Omniweb Date: 25 Apr 1997 02:59:08 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5jp6ls$fvm@news.tamu.edu> References: <5jp5be$d9c@cgs1.bankamerica.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Apr 1997 02:59:08 GMT John Walter <jswalter@overseer.bankamerica.com> wrote: >OmniWeb brings the binary file into the >browser viewer rather than the Next filesystem (/tmp). Am I missing >something or have I got something in the OmniWeb preferences wrong. BTW, >I am using OmniWeb 2.5b2 if that helps John---OmniWeb's default behavior is to display the file in the browser if there is no application that claims that kind of file. If you install an application such as Opener.app (which handles tar, shar, .Z and .gz files, and is free from the archives) then OmniWeb will shunt the binary file over to it, and everything will "just work". Have fun, -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: rwakeman@thoughtport.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Graphical Web Designer Date: 3 May 1997 01:08:38 GMT Message-ID: <5ke36m$hou@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Sometime ago, I asked if there were any graphical web-page design programs for Nextstep like, HomePage (Claris), or PageMill (Adobe). One reply was, "WebObjects comes with a graphical design app that lets you design your web pages." I have two questions: Does anyone have a screen shot of what it looks like? And, does it come with the basic WebObject (free trial) package? Thanks in advance for any response Robert Wakeman rwakeman@thoughtport.com
From: espeyton@ix.netcom.com (Eric Peyton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Upgraded to Openstep : lost my /dev/cufb? Date: 2 May 1997 23:37:35 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5kdtrv$p1f@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> References: <862581651.14733@dejanews.com> Thanks everyone for helping out. I found out that the upgrade had blown away my ttyport device. Fixed now. Well Thanks. Eric
From: Peter Sung <fantasia@hula.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: All you need is to invest $5 for a FORTUNE!!! ACT NOW!!! Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 04:06:59 -0700 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Message-ID: <336B1C53.2BE8@hula.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="income.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="income.txt" A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $5.00! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam," but like most of us I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 5 names and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #5, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured what have I got to lose except 5 stamps and $5.00, right? Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with my country Post Office, and others had with US Post (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Then I invested the measly $5.00............. Well GUESS WHAT!!... with in 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it another thought. But the money just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about $20.00 to $30.00 dollars. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00!!!!!! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in ....... It's certainly worth $5.00, and 5 stamps, I spent more than that on the lottery!! Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, Why it works....also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. The process is very simple and consists of 3 easy steps: STEP 1: Get 5 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Now get 5 $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 5 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the 5 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 5 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service by this. THIS IS PERFECTLY LEGAL! Mail the 5 envelopes to the following addresses: #1 B.C. Smith P.O. Box 170 Greenland, AR 72703 #2 Beddingfield, Bobby 12404 Nokesville Road P.O. Box 40 Nokesville, Va 22123 #3 Keen, Callye 44181 Bristow Circle Ashburn, VA 20147 #4 Tom, BDB. Via Damiano Chiesa 10 00010 Marcellina (Roma) Italy #5 H. J. Sung 1839 Keeaumoku St. Honolulu, HI 96822-3004 STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (5 becomes 4, 4 becomes 3, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 5 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there is close to 25,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! Don't know HOW to post in the newsgroups? Well do exactly the following: FOR NETSCAPE USERS: 1) Click on any newsgroup, like normal. Then click on "To News", which is in the top left corner of the newsgroup page. This will bring up a message box. 2) Fill in the SUBJECT with a flashy title, like the one I used, something to catch the eye!!! 3) Now go to the message part of the box and retype this letter exactly as it is here, with exception of your few changes. (remember to add your name to number 5 and move the rest up) 4) When your done typing in the WHOLE letter, click on 'FILE' above the send button. Then, 'SAVE AS..' DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTILL YOU SAVE IT. (so you don't have to type this 200 times :-) 5) Now that you have saved the letter, go ahead and send your first copy! (click the 'SEND' button in the top left corner) 6) This is where you post all 200! OK, go to ANY newsgroup article and click the 'TO NEWS' button again. Type in your flashy subject in the 'SUBJECT BOX', then go to the message and place your cursor here. Now click on 'ATTACHMENT' which is right below the 'SUBJECT BOX'. Click on attach file then find your letter wherever you saved it. Click once on your file then click 'OPEN' then click 'OK'. If you did this right, you should see your filename in the 'ATTACHMENT BOX' and it will be shaded. NOW POST AWAY! FOR INTERNET EXPLORER: It's just as easy, holding down the left mouse button, highlight this entire article, then press the 'CTRL' key and 'C' key at the same time to copy this article. Then print the article for your records to have the names of those you will be sending $1.00 to. Go to the newsgroups and press 'POST AN ARTICLE' type in your flashy subject and click the large window below. Press 'CTRL' and 'V' and the article will appear in the message window. **BE SURE TO MAKE YOUR ADDRESS CHANGES TO THE 5 NAMES.** Now re-highlight the article and re-copy it so you have the changes.... then all you have to do for each newsgroup is 'CTRL' and 'V' and press 'POST'. It's that easy!! THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** **If these instructions are too complex to follow, try Forte’s "Free Agent." It is freeware for noncommercial use. To download it, simply use a search utility and type "Forte Free Agent". You should be able to find it.** That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you con invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** --- Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #5 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #4 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #3 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #2 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #1 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! With a original investment of only $5.00! AMAZING! And as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is probable 20 to 30! So lets put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is what you will make: at #5 $15.00 at #4 $225.00 at #3 $3,375.00 at #2 $50,625.00 at #1 $759,375.00 When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $5.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 5 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So can you afford $5.00 and see if it really works?? I think so... People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You just have to be honest. Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the basic idea to make the money!! GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from this, which is tons of extra CASH. **By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that's after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 5 $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!! Don't listen to the people that don't trust it and continue to say it's illegal and don't work... They are just too much skeptics. You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars. Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again...
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: converting TIFFs to gif/jpeg and KEEPING color, possible? Date: 3 May 1997 13:45:44 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5kffi8$8s9$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427111819.14691A-100000@kira> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427111819.14691A-100000@kira> On 04/27/97, Timothy Luoma wrote: > >I've got some small tiffs I'd like to make into gif/jpgs. > >I tried converting them with ToyViewer but they come out greyscale even if >they started in color. > >Is this because I'm using a mono machine? >Would it work if I was doing this on a color machine? >Is there a way to make it work on a mono machine? > Try ImageTools... apart from anything else this will enable you to include proper gama correction which I suspect you'll need if you're putting your images on the Web. cf: http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm/NEXTSTEP/WWW/ Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
Date: 3 May 1997 14:54:44 GMT From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Sender: Peter Sung <fantasia@hula.net> Message-ID: <cancel.336B1C53.2BE8@hula.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <336B1C53.2BE8@hula.net> Control: cancel <336B1C53.2BE8@hula.net> MMF spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: All you need is to invest $5 for a FORTUNE!!! ACT NOW!!! Total spams this type to date: 67059 Total this spam type for this user to date: 157
Control: cancel <5kd5d3$5sm$7380@newssvr07-int.news.prodigy.com> From: hinda ann kolansky<ayala20@prodigy.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5kd5d3$5sm$7380@newssvr07-int.news.prodigy.com> Message-ID: <Can_5kd5d3$5sm$7380@newssvr07-int.news.prodigy.com> Date: 2 May 1997 16:40:03 GMT Cancelled - doesn't fit Prodigy(r) "Terms of Use" Questions to admin@prodigy.com
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OPENSTEP a STANDARD? Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 13:20:46 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Development - Illinois State University, Bloomington-Normal, USA Message-ID: <336B8FBD.6ED7@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know if OPENSTEP is a STANDARD? In a white paper on OPENSTEP *YEARS AGO* it was said that OPENSTEP would be handed over to a standards body...anyone know if this is planned, happened, or unofficially happening anyways via GNU and GNUstep?! At one point I heard OPENSTEP was a standard, and there was something to do with X/Open...can anyone concur or clarify? I was reminded of this when I read an article on Java "standardization" and SUN is going through ISO (http://www.iso.ch/) and/or IEC (http://www.iec.ch/) at: http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,10344,00.html Here's a blurb: "In March, Sun announced its plan to turn Java into an official rather than a de facto standard. By turning it into a formal standard, Sun hopes to spread the use of Java, particularly among governments and European companies, many of which will work only with officially sanctioned technologies." Thx, Eric -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11--MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D--Instructional Technology Development--Illinois State University "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away."-Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc CEO VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NeXT Security holes & Fixes Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 13:48:34 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Development - Illinois State University, Bloomington-Normal, USA Message-ID: <336B963D.3F4F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <3368EFAF.155F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123234.26749A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy Luoma wrote: > > http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/progs/index.html > > Yup... it's been listed on my (anemic) NeXTStep security page for over a > month and a half.... With the slowness for SYN and POD problem fix for Open Transport, and NeXT's bad security fix track record, one would wonder what the future will hold?! More of the same? I hope not. Apple should probably address this publicly...it really doesn't look good... -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11--MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D--Instructional Technology Development--Illinois State University "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away."-Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc CEO VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
From: Martin Lightheart <martin@lei.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Running 3.3 apps under 4.1 Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 15:32:20 -0400 Organization: LEI, Corp. Message-ID: <336B92C4.4EB0@lei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Is there any problems with running NeXTStep 3.3 apps under OpenStep 4.1? There are a couple of pkgs that I want to get that seem to be for 3.3 only. This is for the Black or White hardware. I am running black. Martin
From: planetary <planet@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Graphical Web Designer Date: 3 May 1997 13:27:28 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5kg3j0$2g4@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5ke36m$hou@news1-alterdial.uu.net> rwakeman@thoughtport.com wrote: : Sometime ago, I asked if there were any graphical web-page design : programs for Nextstep like, HomePage (Claris), or PageMill (Adobe). : One reply was, "WebObjects comes with a graphical design app that lets : you design your web pages." : I have two questions: : Does anyone have a screen shot of what it looks like? : And, does it come with the basic WebObject (free trial) package? : Thanks in advance for any response WebObjects Builder doesn't come with the free trial package. With WebObjects Builder you can drag and drop HTML elements onto a web document. The page layout capabilities are primitive compared to something like NetObjects Fusion, but that's OK, because it was really designed for placing WebObjects components (WOHyperlink, WORepetition, etc.) on a page and graphically creating WebObjects classes, methods, instance variables, etc. If you want an HTML design tool, get NetObjects Fusion, which is the QuarkXPress for the web. If you want an HTML interface builder that you can use to easily connect HTML components to a custom app, get WebObjects Builder. ....................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Presto/Sequencer? Music software? Date: 4 May 1997 01:32:43 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5kgovr$b19@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5kd7v4$c77@uuneo.neosoft.com> Cc: wbrown@neosoft.com In <5kd7v4$c77@uuneo.neosoft.com> W. Brown wrote: > Hello folks ... > > I've started dabbling with music, and DSP synthesis on my NeXTstation ... I've > tried out some of the sequencer programs ... one particular piece of software, > Pinnacle Research's Presto/Sequencer program caught my eye. After trying it > out, I've decided that I want to buy a license for it.. > > However, it seems that Pinnacle Research is defunct? A whois for the email > address they have in the program shows an entirely different corporation. > > If Pinnacle Research is defunct, then how would I find the commercial version > of their program? Or a license key? I'd love to be able to save the music > pieces that I compose on my NeXT. > > On another note, does anyone have reccomendations for commercial sequencer > software for the NeXT? I'd like it to be able to use the DSP synth, if at > all. > > Thanks, > Wes Brown > wbrown@starbase.neosoft.com > well you can always donate money to CCRMA, but otherwise, Sequence is (still, I believe) available free from those MusicKit folks. Available via ftp, last I looked. Check peak site. Ralph Z. the king of Presto-sterone is still around doing nice things for swell people, and posts once in awhile. You could send him $$ too if you want. There's also: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~mrozek/nextmusic/ all the notes that are fit to hear about the subject, pretty much... until then, however, hears the scoop on Sequence: Sequence [ _NextMusic Home Page_ | _Sound and Music Programs Page_ | _Program List_ ] _ Author: Pinnacle Research Inc. Platforms: NeXT, Intel Prerequisites: NeXTStep 3.0 or higher (?) Price: free Demo: To acquire: _ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/NeXT/Sequence.9.8.3.tar.Z_ (2.9MB) _ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Audio/apps/Sequence.9.8.3.NI.b.tar.gz_ (1.9MB) Information: Entry updated: 3 Oct 1996 Description: A MIDI sequencer, DSP synth, and MIDI Real-Time clock transmitter. * A formerly commerical GUI for NeXT scorefile editing * Originally known as Presto. * Requires gnutar to dearchive the distibution file. Date: Mon, 13 May 96 12:39:13 -0700 Originator: mkdist@ccrma.stanford.edu Sender: mkdist@ccrma.Stanford.EDU From: To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: New version of Sequence I have posted an updated version of Sequence. This fixes several bugs, including several crashers, problems with Transforms, bad behavior when running on Intel machines with no MIDI/DSP cards, etc. If you are using Sequence, you should pick up a copy of the new version. Also, see the Help for info about posting bugs (there's a URL to do it now). The file is: ftp://ftp-ccrma.stanford.edu/pub/NeXT/Sequence.9.8.3.tar.Z David Jaffe daj@ccrma.stanford.edu Sequence is a MIDI sequencer and DSP synthesis application available for the NeXT computer. Paired with a MIDI interface, Sequence allows NeXT users to record and play music using MIDI compatible keyboards and sound generators. When MIDI equipment is not available, users can compose and play music using the NeXT's built-in DSP to generate CD quality sound output. Sequence provides a library of DSP "voicings" including: piano, electric bass, strings, voice, woodwinds, and percussion instruments, which can be modified to create custom sounds. Sequence's graphical interface takes full advantage of the NeXTstep environment. Drag-and-drop measure editing allows the user to move, copy, insert, merge or replace groups of measures. Note and MIDI controller editing can be performed either graphically or with the event-list editor. Transforms such as Quantize, Transpose, Velocity Adjust and Time Shift are provided, including a randomize option which can be used to "humanize" sequenced passages. Sequence's multi-document support allows you to simultaneously edit multiple files and transfer data between them. Sequence reads and writes standard MIDI files as well as NeXT Score and Playscore file formats. Sequence also transmits MIDI Real-Time clock, enabling you to synchronize external devices such as drum-machines and hardware sequencers to Sequence's playback. -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/ We're moving! Soon we'll be at: www.dentalrecords.com
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NeXT Security holes & Fixes Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 21:55:22 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <distler-0305972155230001@slip-88-3.ots.utexas.edu> References: <3368EFAF.155F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123234.26749A-100000@kira> <336B963D.3F4F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> In article <336B963D.3F4F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu wrote: >With the slowness for SYN and POD problem fix for Open Transport, and >NeXT's bad security fix track record, one would wonder what the future >will hold?! Ha! That's amusing. Open Transport 1.5 is supposed to be immune to the Ping 'o Death. But it was canceled. I know for certain that, at least some NeXTStep/hardware combinations are vulnerable*. So Rhapsody could even be a step backwards. Jacques Distler *Not necessarily a crash. I know at least one system will simply disconnect itself from the network. In practice, this is almost as bad, as the only way to bring up the network again is to reboot.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <25195862113623@digifix.com> Date: 4 May 1997 03:59:04 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <851862718425@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: datamagik@usa.net (Jay Riley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OPENSTEP a STANDARD? Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 23:50:15 -0500 Organization: DATAMAGIK € Systems, Software, and Design Engineering Message-ID: <datamagik-0305972350160001@pmnet02-25.austin.texas.net> References: <336B8FBD.6ED7@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> In article <336B8FBD.6ED7@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu wrote: > Anyone know if OPENSTEP is a STANDARD? In a white paper on OPENSTEP > *YEARS AGO* it was said that OPENSTEP would be handed over to a > standards body...anyone know if this is planned, happened, or > unofficially happening anyways via GNU and GNUstep?! At one point I > heard OPENSTEP was a standard, and there was something to do with > X/Open...can anyone concur or clarify? > > I was reminded of this when I read an article on Java "standardization" > and SUN is going through ISO (http://www.iso.ch/) and/or IEC > (http://www.iec.ch/) at: > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,10344,00.html > > Here's a blurb: > "In March, Sun announced its plan to turn Java into an > official rather than a de facto standard. By turning it into a > formal standard, Sun hopes to spread the use of Java, > particularly among governments and European > companies, many of which will work only with officially > sanctioned technologies." > > Thx, > Eric > -- > Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie > mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu > ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11--MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok > R&D--Instructional Technology Development--Illinois State University > "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away."-Eric Schmidt, > Novell Inc CEO > VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN This question raises an interesting possibility: that there may be a sufficient portion of OpenStep in the public domain to make a Rhapsody binary interchangable clone OS... I look forward to read in the replies to this thread. Regards, Jay Riley/Owner, DATAMAGIK ===================================================================== = DATAMAGIK Systems, Software & Design Engineering Austin, Texas = 1-888-369-5741 <http://lonestar.texas.net/~riley> riley@texas.net = = Created on an Apple Computer laptop using NewsWatcher 2.1.3 =
From: support@1stopsoft.com (1st Stop Software) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: New Software! Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 14:14:35 GMT Organization: 1st Stop Software Message-ID: <336b4841.12418332@news.empnet.com> Just a quick note from 1st Stop! We just posted several popular new software titles that are now available for immediate download. http://www.1stopsoft.com Quick View Plus - It is hard to believe...a utility so versatile and flexible it lets you view, print, and manage virtually any file...no matter what its source or format. Express DLL Cleaner - Cleans out those pesky unused DLL files from your windows system directory. Frees hard disk space and makes your computer run faster with less failures. XingMPEG Player and Encoder - Absolutely clean viewer for MPEG (.mpg) movies and a robust utility for creating MPEG movies. Express Online Timer - Track the time you spend logged on to your internet service provider. This is the software that your ISP doesn't want you to have! We offer you the ability to download and purchase these titles plaus many more 24 hours a day seven days a week...with immediate results! No waiting for delivery trucks or secret passwords. Also, don't miss VirusALERT Plus! This is the best anti-virus software available on the market. A "must have" for regular internet surfers! We will also be offering the full version of Duke Nukem 3D and a new level expansion set within a week. Again....we are living at http://www.1stopsoft.com Have a great week! 1st Stop Software Corp.
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <336b4841.12418332@news.empnet.com> Date: 4 May 1997 07:33:57 GMT Control: cancel <336b4841.12418332@news.empnet.com> Message-ID: <cancel.336b4841.12418332@news.empnet.com> Sender: support@1stopsoft.com (1st Stop Software) Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Graphical Web Designer Date: 4 May 1997 11:47:55 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5kht1b$io@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5ke36m$hou@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5kg3j0$2g4@xmission.xmission.com> planetary <planet@xmission.xmission.com> wrote: > If you want an HTML design tool, get NetObjects Fusion, which is the > QuarkXPress for the web. Hmmm... is this a NEXTSTEP program? (This is what has been asked for.) Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NeXT Security holes & Fixes Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:01:35 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970504100009.22247A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <3368EFAF.155F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123234.26749A-100000@kira> <336B963D.3F4F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <distler-0305972155230001@slip-88-3.ots.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <distler-0305972155230001@slip-88-3.ots.utexas.edu> On Sat, 3 May 1997, Jacques Distler wrote: > In article <336B963D.3F4F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, > eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu wrote: > > Open Transport 1.5 is supposed to be immune to the Ping 'o Death. But it > was canceled. I know for certain that, at least some NeXTStep/hardware > combinations are vulnerable*. So Rhapsody could even be a step backwards. > OpenTransport is being reconsidered. Check out http://www.stepwise.com for the latest news. So the issue is not closed yet. Rudy.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: wanted: pine3.96 for NSFIP Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 19:40:51 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970503193955.24496A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I haven't been able to get the foolish thing to compile. Has anyone done it already and be willing to share it with me? If so please emeial Thanks TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> < Greatly pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: rwakeman@thoughtport.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Graphical Web Designer Date: 4 May 1997 22:18:37 GMT Message-ID: <5kj1vt$10b@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5ke36m$hou@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5kg3j0$2g4@xmission.xmission.com> In-Reply-To: <5kg3j0$2g4@xmission.xmission.com> >WebObjects Builder doesn't come with the free trial package. > >With WebObjects Builder you can drag and drop HTML elements onto a web >document. The page layout capabilities are primitive compared to something >like NetObjects Fusion, but that's OK, because it was really designed for >placing WebObjects components (WOHyperlink, WORepetition, etc.) on a page >and graphically creating WebObjects classes, methods, instance >variables, etc. > >If you want an HTML design tool, get NetObjects Fusion, which is the >QuarkXPress for the web. If you want an HTML interface builder that you >can use to easily connect HTML components to a custom app, get WebObjects >Builder. > >.....................kris >-- >Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) >--------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. > Thank you for the reply above. It's interesting that you should mention NetObjects Fusion. I recently downloaded the 30-day trial version for both NT4 and Mac. It's quite impressive. I've also learned the IBM has just bought the NetObjects Fusion package. I wonder what they will do with it? But since I also run Openstep, I thought I could find an app that would do the same thing on the Next platform. Thanks Robert rwakeman@thoughtport.com
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Display GhostScript on GNUstep Was:Re: Application Kit as a replacement to AWT in Java ? Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 19:00:22 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Development - Illinois State University, Bloomington-Normal, USA Message-ID: <336D3115.33CA@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <5ka1kq$c1a$1@news.tudelft.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A. Guyt wrote: > I'd like to you use Java, but I hate some parts of the AWT conceptual > structure. Since we have GNUstep, it should be possible to have the > application kit ported to the java environment. > > Does anybody know of initiatives in this direction (apart from Apple's > announcements to javatize openstep in the long run) ? > > Abraham Guyt. > > P.S. i know java doesn't offer DPS, but gnustep doesn't either. GNUstep WILL :) Also see http://www.openstepnews.com ---------- OPENSTEP NewsFlash 1. DISPLAY GHOSTSCRIPT ON GNUSTEP 2. ANALYSIS 3. NEXTSTEP / JAVA GURU SOUGHT 4. SUBSCRIPTIONS NOW AVAILABLE 1. DISPLAY GHOSTSCRIPT ON GNUSTEP The GNUstep project has contracted with L. Peter Deutsch, the author of Ghostscript, to enhance Ghostscript by adding the full set of Display PostScript operators, the alpha channel and compositing facilities of NeXT's Display PostScript system, basic multi-threading capabilities, and other relevant improvements. This will complete the work that the GNUstep project has already started, and allow "Display Ghostscript" to serve as a plug-compatible replacement for NeXT's Display PostScript system in the context of GNUstep. The enhancements, like the rest of Ghostscript, will be owned by Aladdin Enterprises (Deutsch's consulting business). They will be included in all future versions of Aladdin Ghostscript under the Aladdin Free Public License (a license very similar to the GNU License, with some added restrictions on for-profit distribution). Aladdin Ghostscript versions are re-released under the GNU License as GNU Ghostscript versions approximately 18 months after the Aladdin release. However, in order to avoid delaying the GNUstep project, Deutsch has agreed to release the Display Ghostscript enhancements under the GNU License immediately, on a one-time basis. This does not include the work of retrofitting them to the current GNU Ghostscript, which presumably will be done by GNUstep project members. Aladdin's work on Display Ghostscript has already started, and is scheduled to be completed in September 1997, with several identified milestones before then. www.gnustep.org www.net-community.com 2. ANALYSIS This announcement is representative of the rapid growth of the GNUStep project. Web Browsers and JAVA make this the age of diversity in operating systems, and development environments. We are witnessing the diversity brought about by the internet. 3. NEXTSTEP / JAVA GURU SOUGHT This client is willing to pay any price for the best NeXTStep / JAVA Consultant. They want someone with many many years of NeXTStep design experience, and enough JAVA experience to know how to use the tools, and understand the class libraries. The client is a famous person in the Objective-C community, and I respect him hugely. I have had many resumes come through here, but I have not seen any that meet the client's requirements. That means that the client needs to pay more to find what they are looking for. The position is in the San Francisco Bay Area, initially for about 110 days. 4. SUBSCRIPTIONS NOW AVAILABLE This newsletter is now available as ascii email, NeXTMAil, and Mime mail. Send your subscription and cancellation requests to the email address corresponding to the verion that you want or do not want: Ascii version newsletter-request@lists.best.com NeXTMAIL version nextletter-request@lists.best.com MIME version newsletter-mime- request@lists.best.com The body of the message should contain the keyword 'subsingle' alone or, if you want to subscribe a third-party address, the subsingle keyword may be followed by an email address. subsingle or subsingle email-address You will then get an authentication message. Reply to it appropriately and you will then be subscribed. (Note: Do not use the 'subscribe' keyword, or you will get the digest version of the newsletter once a year). You can also subscribe multiple people in a single email message, one per line. Since this newsletter targets OpenStep Developers, I prefer if you subscribe to the NeXTMAIL version. If you are able to do that, then please tell me a little about how you are using NeXTStep or what you would like to see happen. To make my job easier, please left justify your name and e-mail address, one line each, as follows: Christopher Lozinski BPG 35032 Maidstone Court Newark, CA 94560 lozinski@OpenStepNews.com Copyright 1997 Berkeley Productivity Group. All rights reserved. Non-profit, non-commercial publications and web sites may reprint or link to articles if full credit is given. Others please contact us. We do not guarantee accuracy of articles. Caveat lector. Publication, product, and company names may be registered trademarks of their companies. -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11--MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D--Instructional Technology Development--Illinois State University "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away."-Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc CEO VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: olaf@orest.escape.de Subject: Re: Fax Software Message-ID: <E9AwpH.24s@orest.escape.de> Sender: olaf@orest.escape.de (Olaf Mueller) Organization: Objective Methods, Inc. References: <5jq59q$hdp$2@news.nacamar.de> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 14:39:17 GMT In article <5jq59q$hdp$2@news.nacamar.de> iboehme@abm08.abm.de (Ivo Boehme) writes: > Hello All, > > what fax (both send & receive) software is usable for NS3.3? It would > be great if it supports hppa, i386 and m68k hardware. > We cannot get the buildin software driver to work with our modem ... > > ThanX in advance. > > Ivo Maybe you want to check OlafAM.1.0.NIHS, which handles voice/fax/data calls and sends faxes for a certain number of modems. It is available e.g. at ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/apps/OlafAM.1.0.NIH S.b.tar.gz Olaf
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From: datamagik@usa.net (Jay Riley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OPENSTEP a STANDARD? Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 21:28:19 -0500 Organization: DATAMAGIK € Systems, Software, and Design Engineering Message-ID: <datamagik-0405972128190001@pmnet02-13.austin.texas.net> References: <336B8FBD.6ED7@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <datamagik-0305972350160001@pmnet02-25.austin.texas.net> The reply to this post may have just not made it to my newsserver, or the respondant wished to remain anonymous...in any event I got an email reply to this that refers me to: <http://www.gnustep.org/> I haven't hit it yet, but it sounds promising! Regards, Jay In article <datamagik-0305972350160001@pmnet02-25.austin.texas.net>, datamagik@usa.net (Jay Riley) wrote: > In article <336B8FBD.6ED7@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, > eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu wrote: > > > Anyone know if OPENSTEP is a STANDARD? In a white paper on OPENSTEP > > *YEARS AGO* it was said that OPENSTEP would be handed over to a > > standards body...anyone know if this is planned, happened, or > > unofficially happening anyways via GNU and GNUstep?! At one point I > > heard OPENSTEP was a standard, and there was something to do with > > X/Open...can anyone concur or clarify? > > > > I was reminded of this when I read an article on Java "standardization" > > and SUN is going through ISO (http://www.iso.ch/) and/or IEC > > (http://www.iec.ch/) at: > > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,10344,00.html > > > > Here's a blurb: > > "In March, Sun announced its plan to turn Java into an > > official rather than a de facto standard. By turning it into a > > formal standard, Sun hopes to spread the use of Java, > > particularly among governments and European > > companies, many of which will work only with officially > > sanctioned technologies." > > > > Thx, > > Eric > > -- > > Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie > > mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu > > ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11--MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok > > R&D--Instructional Technology Development--Illinois State University > > "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away."-Eric Schmidt, > > Novell Inc CEO > > VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN > > This question raises an interesting possibility: that there may be a > sufficient portion of OpenStep in the public domain to make a Rhapsody > binary interchangable clone OS... > > I look forward to read in the replies to this thread. ===================================================================== = DATAMAGIK Systems, Software & Design Engineering Austin, Texas = 1-888-369-5741 <http://lonestar.texas.net/~riley> riley@texas.net = = Created on an Apple Computer laptop using NewsWatcher 2.1.3 =
From: planetary <planet@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Graphical Web Designer Date: 4 May 1997 21:10:11 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5kjj2j$2u4@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5ke36m$hou@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5kg3j0$2g4@xmission.xmission.com> <5kj1vt$10b@news1-alterdial.uu.net> rwakeman@thoughtport.com wrote: : > : Thank you for the reply above. : It's interesting that you should mention NetObjects Fusion. I recently : downloaded the 30-day trial version for both NT4 and Mac. It's quite : impressive. I've also learned the IBM has just bought the NetObjects : Fusion package. I wonder what they will do with it? : But since I also run Openstep, I thought I could find an app that : would do the same thing on the Next platform. : Thanks The closest thing to Fusion was WebPages. It had some of Fusion's style management capabilities, but was much less flexible, and didn't have any of the site management features. ..............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
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From: ed@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Writers/Wanted/nycAgency Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:10:44 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5kjmjb$9eh@chile.earthlink.net> We are accepting new and previously published writers for publication. We are a NEWYORK based international literary agency with three offices: 2 in NEW YORK and one in FLORIDA. Please follow guidelines for submission: For all fiction, including screenplays for TV & Movies: Send us a brief synopsis, the first chapter, and include a self-addressed, stamped envelope=S.A.S.E. Short Stories: Send brief synopsis, 3 pages, S.A.S.E. Poetry: Send 3 poems, S.A.S.E. For all nonfiction: Send us a brief synopsis, the first chapter, and include a S.A.S.E. Do not send complete manuscript unless invited. WOODSIDE INTERNATIONAL LITERARY AGENCY 33-29 58 Street Woodside, New York zip: 11377 Tel: 718-651-8145
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Novell Netware available with & OPENSTEP 4.1 ? Date: 4 May 1997 22:24:38 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5kjqum$d1f@slip.net> Hi, I just got the OPENSTEP 4.1 academic bundle. In the release rtf files it says "Novell Netware is not included in this release of OPENSTEP 4.1". Does that mean that the Novell Netware Manager is not available with the academic bundle, but it is with the licensed version, or that I have a beta version of 4.1? Is there a way to determine if this is a beta version? Thanks, Emmett
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5kjmjb$9eh@chile.earthlink.net> Date: 5 May 1997 05:49:04 GMT Control: cancel <5kjmjb$9eh@chile.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5kjmjb$9eh@chile.earthlink.net> Sender: ed@ibm.net Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: Trey or Gwen McClendon <tgm@hiwaay.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SafetyNet like backup software for Windows NT Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 09:13:33 -0500 Organization: haphazard Message-ID: <336C998D.7EFB@hiwaay.net> References: <5k6cim$of5$2@dropit.pgh.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote: > > I posted a while ago on this but got no answer. I love SafetyNet and > I hate NT's native backup software. Has anybody seen anything for NT > that looks like SafetyNet? I especially like the online archives. > ------ > Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 > me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] > > There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well > please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take > the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke I just installed Seagate Backup for Win95 v2.0. It works OK once you fiddle with it until your hair falls out (jumpers, DMA, burst-mode transfers, etc. -- all have to do with the particular drive/accelerator card I'm using, though You *can* use it without the accelerator, but I'm GONNA make this thing work.). It has a catalog, though it 1) Does not maintain separate ".arch" files like SafetyNet 2) Does not allow one to rebuild a ".arch" file like SafetyNet 3) Will allow you to search for a file in the catalog, unlike SafetyNet It is nowhere as fast as SafetyNet on a SCSI DAT drive, but then again my drive (Exabyte Eagle 96) was $119 and the Software came with it. trey mcclendon
From: Norbert Heger <bertl@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Opener.app quietly quitting .. LaunchBar acting weird... Date: 5 May 1997 14:08:55 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5kkpln$iqn@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501162742.24483B-100000@kira> Originator: bertl@cray Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > [...] LaunchBar stopped responding to command-space (yes the > preferences are OK) and it does not unhide apps that are already > running, it just launches a new one... > > OpenStep 4.1... This problem is caused by a permission-bug in the current LaunchBar distribution: The file 'CommandSpace.ps' - contained in the app-wrapper - has no read permissions for 'other'. Change the access permissions of this file to 'world-readable' and anything should work fine again... Hope this helps! - N.C. _________________________________________________________________ Norbert C. Heger <bertl@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> NEXTSTEP / OpenStep Software Development NeXTmail preferred, MIME is welcome Please finger for PGP public key
From: "Integrated Wellness Systems" <byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3.0 Install Floppy Needed Date: 5 May 1997 14:57:24 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <01bc5965$02ab9720$37cdb7c7@byrnejbb.ix.netcom.com> I am in need of the floppy disk that allows installation of the 3.0 CD-ROM. Thanks, John Byrne
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: POLL: Experiences with CAPer V6 sought Date: 5 May 1997 15:47:28 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5kkveh$f9j$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> Howdy folks! In the ongoing quest for the better I'd like to ask those of you running the CAPer program (Appletalk connectivity package using CAP) for feedback. In particular I am interested in problems you might have encountered during installation and use of the current version V6 but success stories are sought too. The main reason behind this is to find incompatibilities since some Appletalk implementations (Novell and NT comes to mind but the various Apple variants count in too) sometimes differ in details and it is impossible for me here to test most every setup. Please respond to frank@this.net, thanks! - Frank --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] Router under NextStep? Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 14:17:44 -0700 Organization: Quicksilver Software, Inc. Message-ID: <rbarris-ya023280000505971417440001@news.intelenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Some people in my area are getting their houses outfitted with cable modems, which basically provide for a single Internet IP address at your home. Even though the cable modems commonly provide 10BaseT/ethernet interfaces, they are nominally limited to supporting just one machine in your home through that single IP address. A couple of my friends are putting together a PC-Linux based thing that will act as a smart router or gateway, allowing roommates to share the cost of a cable modem service while supporting as many machines as they care to connect within the home; basically multiplexing their traffic through a single IP address to the modem. I'm wondering if any such router/gateway services exist under NextStep, either built in to the OS or as something which can be installed on it. I have a NextStation running 3.3 User. Rob Barris Quicksilver Software Inc. rbarris@quicksilver.com * Opinions expressed not necessarily those of my employer *
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OPENSTEP a STANDARD? Java's impact? Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 17:41:28 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Development - Illinois State University, Bloomington-Normal, USA Message-ID: <336E7001.4D35@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <336B8FBD.6ED7@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See Apple and other companies comments on Java "standardization" at: http://www.jtc1tag.org/sun_pas.htm Apple's comments are here: http://www.jtc1tag.org/comm7.pdf How will all of this impact OPENSTEP? Is NeXT-Apple *TRULY* going *THE* standards route by allowing GNU to create GNUstep? AFAIK, Apple-NeXT are not pushing or giving $ or direct support to the GNUstep effort, which I think they might be well advised to do! -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11--MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D--Instructional Technology Development--Illinois State University "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away."-Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc CEO VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app and the Workspace addressbooks Date: 5 May 1997 20:03:08 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5kleds$srd$2@inet-prime.comshare.com> References: <SHAFFER.97Apr30190416@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> Cc: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu In <SHAFFER.97Apr30190416@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> C. David Shaffer wrote: > Hello, > > I like Mail.app but I am finding it quite annoying to maintain two > address books. Cutting and pasting works fine for one address but you > can't get Mail.app to send a message to a group that way. Are there > any bundles or services that can expidite using the Workspace address > book to form Mail.app mail headers. I'm not allergic to writing such > applets if someone could give me a pointer the the Mail.app API > information. <snip> A "universal" desktop-wide URL-based address book would be a cool thing indeed. Have you identified any information regarding the Workspace Manager Addressbook format? -Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net)
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax Software Date: 5 May 1997 20:00:24 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5kle8o$srd$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> References: <5jq59q$hdp$2@news.nacamar.de> Cc: Žiboehme@abm08.abm.de In <5jq59q$hdp$2@news.nacamar.de> Ivo Boehme wrote: > Hello All, > > what fax (both send & receive) software is usable for NS3.3? It would > be great if it supports hppa, i386 and m68k hardware. > We cannot get the buildin software driver to work with our modem ... > > ThanX in advance. > > Ivo > Check out OlafAM. I use it and recommend it. -Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net)
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: converting TIFFs to gif/jpeg and KEEPING color, possible? Date: 7 May 1997 09:17:39 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5kphbj$2r3$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427111819.14691A-100000@kira> In article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427111819.14691A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: > > I've got some small tiffs I'd like to make into gif/jpgs. > > I tried converting them with ToyViewer but they come out greyscale even if > they started in color. > > Is this because I'm using a mono machine? > Would it work if I was doing this on a color machine? > Is there a way to make it work on a mono machine? To convert TIFF to compressed TIFF or JPEG you could use CompressOmatic.app which works ok on a grayscale machine (colors are kept when doing TIFF -> JPEG). To produce GIFs there is GifOmatic from the same people (IPC). I didn't check but I suppose it to work on a b/w machine ok too. You can find them on PEANUTS: ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/next/Graphics/convertors/ CompressOmatic.1.0.NIHS.b.tar.gz GifOmatic.1.2.NIHS.b.tar.gz Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Emil: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-ROM Movies possible on black cube ? Date: 28 Apr 1997 22:51:19 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5k428n$7hk@slip.net> Hi, I'm about to buy a TV, but if for about the price of one I could buy a fast external CD-ROM for my NeXT Cube and watch CD-ROM videos I'd rather go with that. Is it possible to purchase a video driver from, say, deepspacetech, and get some software to watch CD-ROM movies? Thanks, Emmett
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] Router under NextStep? Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 20:33:15 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0nPbl=S00iV18612VX@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <rbarris-ya023280000505971417440001@news.intelenet.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 5-May-97 [Q] Router under NextStep? by Rob Barris@quicksilver.c > I'm wondering if any such router/gateway services exist under NextStep, > either built in to the OS or as something which can be installed on it. I > have a NextStation running 3.3 User. Sure. Run 'routed -g' instead of 'routed -q' by editting /etc/rc. Read the manpage, and make sure that you've got all of your routes (including a correct default route) set up correctly. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: GateKeeper/PPP config Date: 7 May 1997 10:41:24 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5kpm8k$f2@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5koul1$hlb$1@brokaw.wa.com> max@maxgraphic.com wrote: > * GateKeeper connects properly, but doesn't reflect that in its status > window. It seems to get stuck on "Entering Password". The online clock > never starts (well, it did once, but I'm not sure why). Everything seems > to work fine, but GateKeeper seems to be in limbo. GateKeeper reads the PPP syslog info via FIFO and waits for the keyword determined in Preferences > Defaults > Connection to realize the connection is up. That means that either your FIFO isn't working (which would mean that there is *no* output in the diagnostics panel) or else the keyword you specified in your preferences settings is wrong. Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
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From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Upgraded to Openstep : lost my /dev/cufb? Date: 6 May 1997 02:22:13 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <5km4kl$omf@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <862581651.14733@dejanews.com> In-Reply-To: <862581651.14733@dejanews.com> Verify that you have TWO instances of the SerialPort driver loaded and ONE instance of PortServer. You can also try removing the driver and adding it back in. If you did an upgrade vs. a full install, your system may be using the old 3.3 Instance0.table when the Default.table has changed. Robert -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Book on Objective-C? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E9tE1B.J78@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 14:10:23 GMT References: <5kp1gf$jl3$1@brokaw.wa.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5kp1gf$jl3$1@brokaw.wa.com>, bf <ihate@spammers.com> wrote: >I just aquired a NeXT station with 3.2 developer loaded on it. I can >already code in plain old C and would like to learn how to code >Objective C/Next GUI. Can anyone suggest a good book which teaches >Objective C/Next GUI stuff without going over basic C? Thanks > Check out /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/Concepts/ObjC (or something very similar to that.) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: greg davis <gregor@crosslink.net> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Hp 820-70 or Epson 800 inkjets on a NeXTstation 3.1 machine Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 12:11:55 -0400 Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3370A9CB.47E7@crosslink.net> References: <01bc5a46$873f1480$d3463181@arty-s-win95.sunysb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dkat wrote: > > Does anyone know if you can install an Epson or HP inkjet on a NeXTstation > (black) machine that is running 3.1 without using something like > Ghostscript (tried it - can't get it to work and it is real ugly if you are > used to NeXT or Win95)? Is there an upgrade for NeXTstep that will handle > these printers and if so what is the lowest upgrade (I don't want to change > the basic look and use of the machine since it is for someone that does not > have time to deal with the differences)? Thanks, DK One alternative is to run a Hewlett-Packard Jet Direct box out of the ethernet port. It isn't the cheapest solution, but depending which model you get (1 or 3 outputs) you can run any parallel port output printer at network transfer speeds, and any machine (if you are on a local network) can access the printer(s). GS Corp had an excellent Epson driver for the 500, and that should drive the 800 as well. The downside there is that they are no longer selling license keys for their most excellent product any longer, as far as I know. Jet Pilot is still current but I've never used it, but it will work in conjunction with the Jet Direct box. BTW, a single port box is $225 or so street price, and the EX model is about $375. Lotsa luck Gregor
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GCC 2.7.2.2 Help Date: 7 May 1997 16:27:18 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5kqah6$947@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5kbata$38e@news.jump.net> Cc: mseibert@ita1.inow.com In <5kbata$38e@news.jump.net> Matt Seibert wrote: > I got the gcc-2.7.2.2 tar.gz from Peak the other night, and am now trying to > install it. I have a Mono Turbo (68k station), and have untarred the file. > It looks like I'm supposed to create a /.configure file (from the root I > assume) and do some other twists, but the only 68k processors it lists are > Sony, SUN, HP, Altos, "crds-unox", and "bull-sysv" Which of these should I > use? Does anyone have the config files that they could mail to me so I can > see what I am trying to do? > > Thanx! First of all, it is wise to install gnumake for compiling all gnu software. make-3.7.5.tar.gz on all gnu sites. I normally change the name of the installed make program from /usr/local/bin/make to /usr/local/bin/gnumake, so that I can still use the platform supplied make. Typical gnu installation goes (according to the INSTALL files) by *running* the command configure: > ./configure then making the package: > make or > gnumake and finally installing the package (as root). Check the Makefile if the installation destination is correct (preferably /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/man, aso.) > make install or > gnumake install . Gcc has one difference: it needs some more parameters so the sequence is (again according to the INSTALL file): > ./configure > make bootstrap LANGUAGES="c c++ objective-c" BOOT_CFLAGS="-g -O2" and as root (backslash is command line continuation): > make install CC="stage2/xgcc -Bstage2/" CFLAGS="-g -O2" \ LANGUAGES="c c++ objective-c" I have just done the gcc compilation on a i686 Intel NextStep 3.3 machine and it worked without any glitches. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: gvh@solutionhouse.com (Gordon Van Huizen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Found again! WebStep Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 13:59:52 -0700 Organization: SOLUTIONHOUSE Message-ID: <gvh-0705971359520001@emerson.digasylum.com> References: <33701CCA.58DB@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> In article <33701CCA.58DB@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu wrote: > I'm still trying to ascertain its status/relevance...any help is > appreciated... Status: Dormant Relevance: In the eye of the beholder The list has been defunct for some time. I don't recall having seen any postings from it for at least a year. If the archive is still about, I suppose you could peruse it to see if there's anything of value. I don't recall it ever getting very hot & steamy. Gordon ---- Gordon Van Huizen gvh@solutionhouse.com The OBJECTFACTORY at SOLUTIONHOUSE http://www.objectfactory.com http://www.solutionhouse.com
From: David Young <daver@Geeks.ORG> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GCC 2.7.2.2 Help Date: 7 May 1997 21:51:45 GMT Organization: Geeks Organizations Message-ID: <5kqthh$9j4$4@darla.visi.com> References: <5kbata$38e@news.jump.net> <5kqah6$947@news.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert F Tobler <rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at> wrote: > First of all, it is wise to install gnumake for compiling all gnu software. > make-3.7.5.tar.gz > on all gnu sites. I normally change the name of the installed make program > from /usr/local/bin/make to /usr/local/bin/gnumake, so that I can still use > the platform supplied make. Side note: GNU make 3.75 out of the box has a bug that will cause it to dump core on NeXT systems. If you run it under gdb and do a backtrace (bt) you'll quickly see where the problem is; as I recall it's something like glob.c, and you need to change an if (*ptr == ' ') to if(ptr) if(*ptr == ' ') or something like that. There's also a patch floating around. -- .............david.young...senior.developer...think.new.ideas.inc... ....work:.http://www.thinkinc.com...net:.david_young@thinkinc.com...
From: Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Best News Reader? Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 02:40:22 -0700 Organization: Code Monkeys of America Message-ID: <33704E06.1ECC@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know this is a lame-o question, but I would like to know which NS Newsreader is the best? I have NS 3.3 (Moto) installed on an ND Cube. Which have the easiest navigation, add groups easily, can read in-line graphics, etc.? Thanks in advance... -- Rich Markle >> rmarkle@earthlink.net (310)442-8086
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: CRASH due to "excessive DPS errors" (with error log) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:22:55 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970507162056.995B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The last month or so my Pentium 100 running NS 3.3 has crashed several times due to "excessive dps errors." It (almost) always happens when I'm running Netscape over X-windows. I'm using CubX-window version 5.00. As you can see from the /usr/adm/messages file (see below) I get numerous DPS errors just prior the the crash. What is causing this and how do I fix it? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Robert rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu May 6 16:11:30 rjacobs Terminal[2160]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 3e5a4, data -102 May 6 16:11:30 rjacobs Terminal[2160]: Exiting due to Window Server death May 6 16:11:30 rjacobs WM[202]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext ae7bc, data -102 May 6 16:11:30 rjacobs Terminal[454]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 44c84, data -102 May 6 16:11:30 rjacobs Terminal[454]: Exiting due to Window Server death May 6 16:11:30 rjacobs CubXWindow[203]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 3cc64, data -102 May 6 16:11:30 rjacobs CubXWindow[203]: Exiting due to Window Server death May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs WatchSwap[207]: DPS client library error: Connection closed unexpectedly, DPSContext 12c44, data 0 May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs WatchSwap[207]: Exiting due to Window Server death May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs LaunchBar[210]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 18c64, data -102 May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs LaunchBar[210]: Exiting due to Window Server death May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs Remotes[209]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 104c44, data -102 May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs Remotes[209]: Exiting due to Window Server death May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs CDPlayer[234]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 16c24, data -102 May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs CDPlayer[234]: Exiting due to Window Server death May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs X[216]: DPS client library error: Connection closed unexpectedly, DPSContext 3f46fc, data 0 May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs X[216]: Exiting due to Window Server death May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs Mail[204]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext a4cc0, data -102 May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs Mail[204]: Exiting due to Window Server death May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs Terminal[2251]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 3e5a4, data -102 May 6 16:11:31 rjacobs Terminal[2251]: Exiting due to Window Server death May 6 16:11:32 rjacobs Cassandra[208]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 26c44, data -102 May 6 16:11:32 rjacobs Cassandra[208]: Exiting due to Window Server death May 6 16:11:33 rjacobs BackSpace[206]: DPS client library error: Error while writing to connection, DPSContext 40c74, data -102 May 6 16:11:33 rjacobs BackSpace[206]: Exiting due to Window Server death May 6 16:11:45 rjacobs loginwindow[197]: Workspace exited (ts 0 cd 0 rc 0 sv 0 ss 0). May 6 16:11:46 rjacobs loginwindow[197]: dps_err_write May 6 16:11:46 rjacobs last message repeated 20 times May 6 16:11:46 rjacobs loginwindow[197]: exiting due to excessive DPS errors May 6 16:11:51 rjacobs loginwindow[3225]: Checking for DOS partitioned disk May 6 16:11:56 rjacobs reboot: rebooted by root May 6 16:11:57 rjacobs syslogd: going down on signal 15
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: CRASH due to "excessive dps errors" Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:19:42 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970507161527.995A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The last month or so my Pentium 100 running NS 3.3 has crashed several times due to "excessive dps errors." It (almost) always happens when I'm running Netscape over X-windows. I'm using CubX-window version 5.00. As you can see from the /usr/adm/messages file (see below) I get numerous DPS errors just prior the the crash. What is causing this and how do I fix it? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Robert rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Better serial drivers for Intel 3.2? Date: 7 May 1997 16:29:53 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5kqam1$35i@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <337065f5.35016125@SantaClara01.news.InterNex.Net> In article <337065f5.35016125@SantaClara01.news.InterNex.Net> wenews@usc.com (Will "to send me mail change to westes at usc.com" Estes) writes: > Is there a better set of serial drivers available, either as an > upgrade addable to 3.2, or in NS 3.3/4.1? Using 3.2: Try the MUX serial drivers, available from your nearest friendly NeXT archive site (like http://www.peak.org/next). Using 3.3: NeXT released updated Serial drivers for 3.3 found at NeXT's www site -- http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/ Using 4.*: Already contains NeXT's updated serial drivers. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: "dkat" <dkat@psych1.psy.sunysb.edu> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Hp 820-70 or Epson 800 inkjets on a NeXTstation 3.1 machine Date: 6 May 1997 17:55:52 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Distribution: inet Message-ID: <01bc5a46$873f1480$d3463181@arty-s-win95.sunysb.edu> Does anyone know if you can install an Epson or HP inkjet on a NeXTstation (black) machine that is running 3.1 without using something like Ghostscript (tried it - can't get it to work and it is real ugly if you are used to NeXT or Win95)? Is there an upgrade for NeXTstep that will handle these printers and if so what is the lowest upgrade (I don't want to change the basic look and use of the machine since it is for someone that does not have time to deal with the differences)? Thanks, DK
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Best News Reader? Date: 8 May 1997 02:57:33 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5krfet$qlm$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <33704E06.1ECC@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <33704E06.1ECC@earthlink.net> On 05/06/97, Rich Markle wrote: >I know this is a lame-o question, but I would like to know which NS >Newsreader is the best? I have NS 3.3 (Moto) installed on an ND Cube. >Which have the easiest navigation, add groups easily, can read in-line >graphics, etc.? > >Thanks in advance... You may want to check out NewsFlash. At www.wolfware.com there are a bunch of screenshots, specs, user comments etc plus a free demo version you can download. NewsFlash does not yet support inline graphics though. - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: dwrite for 2Up printing? Date: 7 May 1997 18:56:54 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <5kqj9m$hs9$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Is there a dwrite to change the default page layout (Format->Page Layout=>Layout) from 1Up to 2Up? Jacques Distler
From: grund63303@aol.com (Grund63303) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Root password help Date: 8 May 1997 03:33:44 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970508033200.XAA07414@ladder01.news.aol.com> I have a couple of Hard drives with 3.3 user/dev. installed that I cannot access because I don't know the root. I have tried booting into single user mode to do the standard password change attempt but I get a message sort of like this: fsck not done ^c ^u kill Anyway, This is not the exact message but I do not have a machine in front of me. I am able to open the HD's up by connecting them to an external SCSI enclosure and booting from a system I have root access for. Does anyone know what to do to get root access? I would sure appreciate the help if you could e-mail any suggestions. Thanks, Paul
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Best News Reader? Date: 8 May 1997 03:27:27 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5krh6v$n3v$1@news.digifix.com> References: <33704E06.1ECC@earthlink.net> <5krfet$qlm$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> In-Reply-To: <5krfet$qlm$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> On 05/07/97, Christopher Wolf wrote: >On 05/06/97, Rich Markle wrote: >>I know this is a lame-o question, but I would like to know which NS >>Newsreader is the best? I have NS 3.3 (Moto) installed on an ND Cube. >>Which have the easiest navigation, add groups easily, can read in-line >>graphics, etc.? >> >>Thanks in advance... > >You may want to check out NewsFlash. At www.wolfware.com there are a bunch of >screenshots, specs, user comments etc plus a free demo version you can download. >NewsFlash does not yet support inline graphics though. > I'm not quite as biased as Chris :-), but I'd suggest NewsFlash as well.. its my personal favorite... There is also RadicalNews, and Alexandra. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GCC 2.7.2.2 Help Date: 7 May 1997 17:03:09 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5kqckd$37m@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5kqah6$947@news.tuwien.ac.at> In article <5kqah6$947@news.tuwien.ac.at> rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) writes: > In <5kbata$38e@news.jump.net> Matt Seibert wrote: > > I got the gcc-2.7.2.2 tar.gz from Peak the other night, and am now > > trying to install it. I have a Mono Turbo (68k station), > > and have untarred the file. FYI (for everyone), the gcc distribution at peak is: gcc-2.7.2.2.I.b.tar.gz and gcc-2.7.2.2.I.b.tar.gz Notice the 'b'. That means it is a BINARY distribution, and not SOURCE. The accomanying README files give instructions on how to install it. If you want to compile from source, grab it from your nearest friendly GNU archive site, like: http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/systems/gnu > First of all, it is wise to install gnumake for compiling all gnu software. > > make-3.7.5.tar.gz BTW, I've been unable to get make-3.75 work, and have stuck with 3.74, in the meantime. I've tried compiling with both NeXT's cc-2.5.8 and gcc-2.7.2.2 on NS3.3patched without success. Anyone? -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: wolfgang@neptun.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Wolfgang Pusch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Software for simulation and/or designing electrical filter Date: 6 May 1997 09:14:18 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5kmspa$ikg@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hello! I am looking for Software for simulation (of discrete events, analog) or/and designing electrical filter (digital, analog) for NeXTstep operating system or eventually Mathematica. - Wolfgang
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: strippers wanted Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970507094357.21862C-100000@yorick.nerc.com> Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 09:45:25 -0400 References: <5kosdg$hoj@moose.cs.indiana.edu> To: "Juan E. Villacis" <jvillaci@cs.indiana.edu> In-Reply-To: <5kosdg$hoj@moose.cs.indiana.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Are there any binary strippers available for NS3.2 on > black hardware? Interesting choice of subjects.... Have you checked out /bin/lipo via terminal.app? that will turn MAB files into thin ones.... or are you looking for the 'strip' command? (I think that just comes with the developer tools) TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Q: GateKeeper/PPP config Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970507094557.21862D-100000@yorick.nerc.com> Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 09:47:48 -0400 References: <5koul1$hlb$1@brokaw.wa.com> To: max@maxgraphic.com In-Reply-To: <5koul1$hlb$1@brokaw.wa.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Installing PPP went fairly well, but there were, of course, a few > glitches: This is usually one of the most challenging things a single-user will face... > * PopOver works, but won't let me delete mail (with the "delete" button). > The mail grays for a moment then turns black again. But I have > successfully sent and received mail with both of my pop accounts. In the mail hosts panel for PopOver, turn on 'delete after receipt' > Any input appreciated ... does this post seem to have the right headers > etc? Thanks in advance. Please e-mail too. Everything looks fine... TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Book on Objective-C? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970507094918.21862F-100000@yorick.nerc.com> Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 09:50:08 -0400 References: <5kp1gf$jl3$1@brokaw.wa.com> In-Reply-To: <5kp1gf$jl3$1@brokaw.wa.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 May 1997, bf wrote: > I just aquired a NeXT station with 3.2 developer loaded on it. I can > already code in plain old C and would like to learn how to code > Objective C/Next GUI. Can anyone suggest a good book which teaches > Objective C/Next GUI stuff without going over basic C? Thanks There are a couple books out there that cover NeXTstep programming.... Check your local Barnes & Noble.... mine has them both in the programming section.... Someone else will hopefully provide the titles.... TjL
From: etienne@jupiter.univ-lr.fr (Etienne Gourdon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Link error on OpenStep/Windows NT : fatal error LNK1120 Date: 6 May 1997 10:03:13 GMT Organization: Universite de La Rochelle Message-ID: <5kmvl1$gng@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> Keywords: OpenStep Windows NT Hi all, I've the following link error on OpenStep Windows NT : fatal error LNK1120 Thanks for any help . /NeXT/NextDeveloper/Executables/gcc -LC:/Etienne/Situation/obj-i386-nextpdo-winnt3.5-opt -win -arch i386-nextpdo-winnt3.5 -o C:/Etienne/Situation/Situation.app/Situation.exe C:/Etienne/Situation/obj-i386-nextpdo-winnt3.5-opt/Situation_main.o C:/Etienne/Situation/obj-i386-nextpdo-winnt3.5-opt/appResources.o -framework AppKit -framework CompleteAccess -framework CompleteAccessAppKit -framework CompleteAccessEditor -framework Foundation /NeXT/NextDeveloper/Libraries/libNSWinMain.a LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option "NeXT/NextDeveloper/Libraries/libNSWinMain.a"; ignored LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option "NeXT/NextLibrary/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/AppKit.lib"; ignored LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option "NeXT/NextLibrary/Frameworks/CompleteAccess.framework/CompleteAccess.lib"; ignored LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option "NeXT/NextLibrary/Frameworks/CompleteAccessAppKit.framework/CompleteAccessAp pKit.lib"; ignored LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option "NeXT/NextLibrary/Frameworks/CompleteAccessEditor.framework/CompleteAccessEd itor.lib"; ignored LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option "NeXT/NextLibrary/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Foundation.lib"; ignored Situation_main.o : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol __imp__NSApplicationMain msvcrt.lib(crtexew.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol _WinMain@16 C:/Etienne/Situation/Situation.app/Situation.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 2 unresolved externals gcc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 127 make: *** [C:/Etienne/Situation/Situation.app/Situation.exe] Error 1
From: info@scribex.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: converting TIFFs to gif/jpeg and KEEPING color, possible? Date: 6 May 1997 10:46:15 GMT Organization: SPC Message-ID: <5kn25n$4a4$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427111819.14691A-100000@kira> <5kffi8$8s9$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5kffi8$8s9$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> The new version of LatinByrd-II converts TIFF and EPS to GIF, JPEG and PNG. See: http://www.scribex.com/ -Andre info@scribex.com ===================== On 05/03/97, mmalcolm crawford wrote: > On 04/27/97, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > >I've got some small tiffs I'd like to make into gif/jpgs. > > > >I tried converting them with ToyViewer but they come out greyscale even if > >they started in color. > > > >Is this because I'm using a mono machine? > >Would it work if I was doing this on a color machine? > >Is there a way to make it work on a mono machine? > > > Try ImageTools... apart from anything else this will enable you to include > proper gama correction which I suspect you'll need if you're putting your > images on the Web. > > cf: http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm/NEXTSTEP/WWW/ > > Best wishes, > > mmalc. > > -- > Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk > Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems > Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm > >
From: JMD <debaud@iese.fhg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Sun Openstep 1.1 for Solaris, ever? Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 12:08:23 +0200 Organization: Fraunhofer Gesellschaft: Institut iese Message-ID: <3371A617.4D1E@iese.fhg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone, Any news on the avialability of Sun Openstep 1.1 for Solaris? There are a few very annoying (but not critical) bugs I would love to see go away... Thanks, Jean-Marc debaud@iese.fhg.de
From: JMD <debaud@iese.fhg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Found again! WebStep Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 11:59:43 +0200 Organization: Fraunhofer Gesellschaft: Institut iese Message-ID: <3371A400.64E5@iese.fhg.de> References: <33701CCA.58DB@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <gvh-0705971359520001@emerson.digasylum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone, Any news on the avialability of Sun Openstep 1.1 for Solaris? There are a few very annoying (but not critical) bugs I would love to see go away... Thanks, Jean-Marc debaud@iese.fhg.de
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app and the Workspace addressbooks Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 16:53:20 -0400 Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <336E48C0.1796@worldbank.org> References: <SHAFFER.97Apr30190416@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> <5kleds$srd$2@inet-prime.comshare.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit alanf@izzy.net wrote: > A "universal" desktop-wide URL-based address book would be a cool thing > indeed. Have you identified any information regarding the Workspace Manager > Addressbook format? StayInTouch uses the WM Addressbook format to store its info. -- Stefano Pagiola 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer
From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: mkisofs >/dos ? Date: 9 May 1997 13:23:10 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5kv8fu$g0t@news.tuwien.ac.at> hi all, can anyone tell me how can I redirect the output file of mkisofs to my dos partition? thanks very much, khanh,
From: kc@ignem.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb or other most current OpenStep browser Date: 9 May 1997 15:28:07 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5kvfq7$jir$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <5juin3$9jt$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427103211.10515A-100000@kira> <Jorg.Schumacher-0605971747000001@129.194.16.73> Jorg Schumacher (Jorg.Schumacher@lettres.unige.ch) wrote: : I downloaded OmniWeb some 2 weeks ago, but when I asked for a licence, I : got this answer from Lighhouse: [...] OmniWeb is still available, whether or not Lighthouse is still interested in selling it. (In fact, OmniWeb 3 is just around the corner...) If you need OmniWeb (or OmniPDF) licenses and Lighthouse won't sell them to you, please contact Omni Development at info@omnigroup.com, 206-523-4152, or 800-315-OMNI. -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: bff@csn.net (Brendan Forsyth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep upgrade problems Date: 9 May 1997 15:59:38 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. +1.303.296.8202 Denver Colorado Message-ID: <5kvhla$9nv$1@news-2.csn.net> I just recently upgraded from NS3.3 to OpenStop 4.1 and I am experiencing some strange behavior. The first problem is my WorkSpace browser and console window just disappear. Double-clicking the Next cube in the icon dock does not bring them back. this occurs randomly. The other problem is nameserver calls will cease to work although the tcp stack is still opertional. For example, 'rlogin hostname' returns "bus error". but telnet xx.xx.xx.xx works. nslookup works. This also occurs randomly and there are no messages in the /tmp/console.log file or in /usr/adm/messages. this is also affecting the delivery of e-mail. rebooting fixes both until they appear again. neither appears to be tied to the other. the workspace problem happens less than the nameserver problem. Has anyone else seen this? None of this was occuring before the upgrade. Thanks, Brendan
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for chess Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 21:29:27 -0400 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <3366A077.6B15@smart.net> References: <max-1604972024080001@blv-pm107-ip1.halcyon.com> <mitchell.allen-1704972301540001@165.cincinnati-001.oh.dial-access.att.net> <max-1804971051100001@blv-pm111-ip17.halcyon.com> <33599377.4EC2@smart.net> <max-2104971236290001@blv-pm103-ip2.halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Max Pinton wrote: > > In article <33599377.4EC2@smart.net>, gh@smart.net wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to find a free/shareware chess app for NS 3.0 Moto. I > found one > > > > > on Peanuts, but it was source only... > > Try ftp://caissa.onenet.net/pub/chess/NeXT/... > Hmm. I tried downloading GNUchess, but it looks like source only... Ask someone with Black hardware to NeXTmail you their copy of NeXTchess. You'll need to supply your email address though. I have an Intel computer, otherwise I'd send you mine. --gh
From: wolfgang@neptun.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Wolfgang Pusch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where does GateKeeper.app stores its preferences information? Date: 6 May 1997 17:36:23 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5knq6n$4ck@news.tuwien.ac.at> Where does GateKeeper.app stores its preferences information? I have not found a configuration file for GateKeeper.app. Wolfgang
From: Jorg.Schumacher@lettres.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb or other most current OpenStep browser Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 17:46:59 +0100 Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <Jorg.Schumacher-0605971747000001@129.194.16.73> References: <5juin3$9jt$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427103211.10515A-100000@kira> > > For those who want to run OmniWeb (or to help answer this question and the > weekly "How do I get OmniWeb to run?" question): see my web page on > browsers under my home page (see .sig) goto 'apps' and then 'WWW browsers' > or quickjump to > > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/apps/browsers.html > > TjL > > > -- > TjL <luomat@peak.org> > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ > Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! > Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more. I downloaded OmniWeb some 2 weeks ago, but when I asked for a licence, I got this answer from Lighhouse: "Unfortunately, the applications you have requested are NEXTSTEP-based products and are no longer available, as NEXTSTEP is no longer available from its manufacturer, NeXT Software, Inc. We are evaluating ports of selected products to the Rhapsody environment, but have made no announcements at this time. Please continue to check our web site (www.lighthouse.com) for news and information about our products." What's the next best solution then? J. Schumacher
From: juergen.albertsen@flensburg.netsurf.de (Juergen Albertsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Link error on OpenStep/Windows NT : fatal error LNK1120 Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 17:54:57 GMT Organization: Private Message-ID: <336f50c1.2860332@news.allcon.net> References: <5kmvl1$gng@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> On 6 May 1997 10:03:13 GMT, etienne@jupiter.univ-lr.fr (Etienne Gourdon) wrote: There's an error in the coammnd line used for linking: >/NeXT/NextDeveloper/Executables/gcc >-LC:/Etienne/Situation/obj-i386-nextpdo-winnt3.5-opt -win -arch >i386-nextpdo-winnt3.5 -o C:/Etienne/Situation/Situation.app/Situation.exe >C:/Etienne/Situation/obj-i386-nextpdo-winnt3.5-opt/Situation_main.o >C:/Etienne/Situation/obj-i386-nextpdo-winnt3.5-opt/appResources.o >-framework AppKit -framework CompleteAccess -framework CompleteAccessAppKit >-framework CompleteAccessEditor -framework Foundation >/NeXT/NextDeveloper/Libraries/libNSWinMain.a It should read -l/NeXT/NextDeveloper/Libraries/libNSWinMain.a, same with the following errors after trying to link against *.lib files. >LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option >"NeXT/NextDeveloper/Libraries/libNSWinMain.a"; ignored >LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option >"NeXT/NextLibrary/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/AppKit.lib"; ignored >LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option >"NeXT/NextLibrary/Frameworks/CompleteAccess.framework/CompleteAccess.lib"; >ignored >LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option >"NeXT/NextLibrary/Frameworks/CompleteAccessAppKit.framework/CompleteAccessAp >pKit.lib"; ignored >LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option >"NeXT/NextLibrary/Frameworks/CompleteAccessEditor.framework/CompleteAccessEd >itor.lib"; ignored >LINK : warning LNK4044: unrecognized option >"NeXT/NextLibrary/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Foundation.lib"; ignored >Situation_main.o : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol >__imp__NSApplicationMain >msvcrt.lib(crtexew.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol >_WinMain@16 >C:/Etienne/Situation/Situation.app/Situation.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 2 >unresolved externals >gcc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 127 >make: *** [C:/Etienne/Situation/Situation.app/Situation.exe] Error 1 Perhaps you modified some of the standard makefiles? Modifcations are to made only in Makefile.preamble and Makefile.postable. You might have to take a look at the makefiles in /Next/NextDeveloper/Makefiles/pb_makefiles. There's a README or something like that. Hope that helps! Juergen
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GCC 2.7.2.2 Help Date: 8 May 1997 19:33:06 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5kt9pi$4tr@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5kt2q9$aik@news.tuwien.ac.at> In article <5kt2q9$aik@news.tuwien.ac.at> rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) writes: >In <5kqthh$9j4$4@darla.visi.com> David Young wrote: >> Side note: GNU make 3.75 out of the box has a bug that will cause it to >> dump core on NeXT systems.... > I have installed gnumake as ftp'd from the gnu sites on 2 intel boxes and > 1 next box, and never had this problem. I wonder if this was maybe > already fixed in the standard distribution. A binary or source? And was it v3.75? I've never had troubles with gnumake until 3.75, and am still unable to use it successfully. It always dies for me with the error: IOT Trap. > > (bt) you'll quickly see where the problem is; as I recall it's > > something like glob.c, and you need to change an if (*ptr == ' ') to > > if(ptr) if(*ptr == ') BTW, I looked in the source today, and could not find any reference to if (*ptr = ' ') in glob.c. Does anyone else have any more specific references to this fix required to get it to function properly? -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: "Eric R. Balch" <ebalch@wrightstrat.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv for Intel? Date: 9 May 1997 19:42:08 GMT Organization: Wright Strategies Message-ID: <01bc5cb0$5fe6ec20$1293d4cc@grayslab.wrightstrat> References: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> Cache-Post-Path: optional.cts.com!unknown@204.212.147.18 No. However there was a version made for MS Windows 3.1 (big woop right?) Anyway, just thought you needed to know =;-) - Eric Zdzislaw H. "Stan" Lewantowicz <zlewanto@stan.donet.com> wrote in article <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com>... > Was a version of Lotus Improv offered for Intel NeXTStep? If so, how can one > obtain a copy? > > Currently am ruuning a version on my trusty Cube 040, but am slowly migrating > to an Intel NS3.3 platform. > > Ditto for FrameMaker 3.2 > > Stan >
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: duplex printing bug Date: 9 May 1997 19:55:54 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <5kvvga$ae6$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> According to NeXTanswers 1831, there is a bug in NS 3.3 which prevents printing to an HP LaserJet 4Si-MX in duplex mode. Does anyone know if this bug has been fixed in a later release of OpensStep? Jacques Distler
From: David Young <daver@Geeks.ORG> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GCC 2.7.2.2 Help Date: 9 May 1997 20:22:18 GMT Organization: Geeks Organizations Message-ID: <5l011q$jci$4@darla.visi.com> References: <5kt2q9$aik@news.tuwien.ac.at> <5kt9pi$4tr@crcnis3.unl.edu> Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote: > A binary or source? And was it v3.75? I've never had troubles with > gnumake until 3.75, and am still unable to use it successfully. It always > dies for me with the error: IOT Trap. This is the problem. Sorry I was so vague the first time. Here is the solution. In file file.c, line 411, it reads: if (d->name != 0) Change this to: if (d->name != 0 && *d->name != 0) Presto, working gmake 3.75. -- .............david.young...senior.developer...think.new.ideas.inc... ....work:.http://www.thinkinc.com...net:.david_young@thinkinc.com...
From: wenews@usc.com (Will "to send me mail change to westes at usc.com" Estes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Better serial drivers for Intel 3.2? Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 17:12:29 GMT Organization: U.S. Computer Message-ID: <337065f5.35016125@SantaClara01.news.InterNex.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The serial drivers that comes with NS 3.2 FIP appear to be quite bad. We are constantly getting receive messages like "ttysccl: receive error 2 (-902)...last message repeated 200 times". I don't think the connection is bad. Is there a better set of serial drivers available, either as an upgrade addable to 3.2, or in NS 3.3/4.1? -- Will Estes U.S. Computer Internet: westes at usc.com POB 3150 Saratoga, CA 95070 PLEASE READ: to send me Internet e-mail, you will need to change the default reply address on this message to westes @ usc.com, removing the spaces on either side of the "@" character.
From: thompson@filoli.com (Peter Thompson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb or other most current OpenStep browser Date: 6 May 1997 19:50:51 GMT Organization: Filoli Information Systems Message-ID: <5ko22r$r3b$1@news.filoli.com> References: <5juin3$9jt$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427103211.10515A-100000@kira> <Jorg.Schumacher-0605971747000001@129.194.16.73> Jorg.Schumacher@lettres.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) wrote: > >I downloaded OmniWeb some 2 weeks ago, but when I asked for a licence, I >got this answer from Lighhouse: > >"Unfortunately, the applications you have requested are NEXTSTEP-based >products and are no longer available, as NEXTSTEP is no longer available from >its manufacturer, NeXT Software, Inc. > >We are evaluating ports of selected products to the Rhapsody environment, >but have made no announcements at this time. Please continue to check our web >site (www.lighthouse.com) for news and information about our products." > >What's the next best solution then? > >J. Schumacher You could try Netsurfer - this is a really nice app. It is not free, unlike OmniWeb...however (as you may have noticed), you get what you pay for. I don't know the price for it, sorry. Their website is http://www.websurfer.com/ I'm sure you can find the critter out there somewhere. Peter Thompson
From: Allan MacKinnon <allanmac@blueprint.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OS 4.2 out yet? Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 14:25:51 -0400 Organization: [under construction] Message-ID: <336F77AF.6214@blueprint.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if 4.2 is out yet? The www.next.com website implies that it is. ASM -- Allan MacKinnon allanmac@blueprint.com Boston, MA - 617/424-0615
From: gback@teleport.com (George Back & Diane McManus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: TypeView for NeXT Computers - For Sale $9.99 Starting Bid- Only 4 Left Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 18:02:51 -0800 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Sender: -yp- @ptp-239.cport.com Message-ID: <gback-0905971802510001@ptp-239.cport.com> If interested, go to the urls below and bid. Right now there are 3 copies listed for auction at: #1 is at http://www.vtrader.com/cgi-win/bid.exe?SITEID=BIDHOUSE+ACTION=View+LOT=1070+ #2 is at http://www.uauction.com/cgi-win/showitem.exe/lmxl7936 #3 is at http://www.haggle.com/cgi/getitem.cgi?item_id=125053 Also, we had a buyer renig on his winning bid at auction web a little while ago, and will soon be relisting that 4th copy at http://www.ebay.com/aw-cgi/seller-list.cgi?email=gback@teleport.com While we personally don't know that much about the program, prior buyers of the program at http://www.ebay.com/aw-cgi/seller-list.cgi?email=gback@teleport.com&c=1 should be able to answer your questions better than we. Here's what we know about it: A friend that bought a copy told us "The original retail price was $129" and "TypeView for NeXT turned out to have been a great deal." -------------------------------------------------------- Description: TypeView for NeXT Computers "A complete software package for understanding, accessing, and using all features of fonts" TypeView is the perfect companion product for any Desktop Publishing, Illustration, or Presentation Software Package. TypeView allows you to quickly view the entire character set of a particular font, locate an unusual character and copy and paste into your document, and allow you to see paragraphs of text in many type families, styles and sizes. All of TypeView's features allow you to quickly analyze text and access characters in your font file. TypeView works within the NeXT services framework and can be launched by opening font files. It lets you spend more time being creative, imaginative, and more resourceful. If you are an expert graphic designer, TypeView can expose the subtleties of typefaces-details that are often hidden by the computer. Even if you have only a limited knowledge of typefaces, TypeView can greatly improve your access and control of typefaces and type attributes. (Yes, all the above came right off the package.) System Requirements: You need to have a NeXT Computer. Other than that I don't know. Sorry. What's in the package? What's in the package? Everything -- it's brand new and never been opened! -------------------------------------------------------- If interested, go to the urls's at th4e top of this message ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: fugue@ccp.uchicago.edu Subject: SoftPC license? Message-ID: <ukvpvv0hieh.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 13:41:42 GMT Hey hey hey folks. Does anyone know ANY way to get a license for SoftPC/Win 3.0 for Black? I just bought a registered version of 2.5 (before they did Windows). *sigh* I'm sure the company would disavow any knowledge of NeXT. Any help? Thanks, Mark P.S. For those of you waiting patiently for me to upload that Newton connection software for NeXT, and the other stuff, my apologies. I just started a new job, and I'm transitioning from an old one, which means I'm working 10-hour days 4 days a week at the new one, and using nights and the other 3 days a week to play catch-up with the old job. I swear it's coming. Just hold on. :)
From: Dayne Miller <daynem@excell.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: the call for a decent filesystem Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 20:27:19 -0700 Organization: Excell Data Corporation Message-ID: <3373EB17.5C4577EE@excell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Well, Apple just got trumped. BeOS DR9 is shipping with a high-performance 64-bit journaling filesystem (according to their Web page, anyway). OpenStep is poking along with FFS and a 2GB limit; MacOS is is hobbled by HFS. To be taken seriously as a server OS, Rhapsody needs something better than it has. I know most of the clients I work with wouldn't even consider Rhapsody as it stands now -- they complain enough about the 16GB limit for MS Exchange databases (which will soon be 16 terabytes anyway...) I definitely suggest that Apple consider licensing the BeFS, assuming it lives up to its billing (and Be is willing to do such a thing...). Especially since a lot of people will probably be running BeOS and Rhapsody on the same box -- I know I will. At the very least license SGI's XFS -- or implement something better. Just don't accept anything less than the competition has. NTFS is a pretty good filesystem -- Rhapsody needs something comparable or (preferably) better. Journaling, 64-bit, guaranteed bandwidth (ala XFS), ACLs, filesystem compression (ala NTFS), etc. Does anyone disagree? -Dayne Miller daynem@excell.com -- ###
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse Applications end of life!? Date: 6 May 1997 22:47:28 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5koce0$mih@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5k5e5o$1va@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> <5k8oll$499c@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5ka782$3fmq@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <5kcsr0$gje@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <336A2A31.7AF4@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> wrote: > Gary Finley wrote: > > This sounds to me like "not under OS4.x, but very probably > > under Rhapsody", which I think is a very encouraging answer. > > 'Not really, since Rhapsody also supports Java, and these could > be JUST JAVA PORTS that'll work on Rhapsody and any other Java > VM... :( If they are rewriting the applications, and the new versions only need java support (such as MRJ), then I don't see why there'd be any reason to frown. Sounds like a reasonable idea to me, assuming the applications work as well as the NeXTSTEP versions have. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where does GateKeeper.app stores its preferences information? Date: 7 May 1997 01:12:51 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5kokuj$p5@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5knq6n$4ck@news.tuwien.ac.at> wolfgang@neptun.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Wolfgang Pusch) wrote: > Where does GateKeeper.app stores its preferences information? > > I have not found a configuration file for GateKeeper.app. ???? NEXTSTEP apps don't store their settings in config files but rather in the defaults database, and so does GateKeeper. Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: max@maxgraphic.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: GateKeeper/PPP config Date: 7 May 1997 03:58:25 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <5koul1$hlb$1@brokaw.wa.com> Apologies if this post is trashed; it's my first from my NeXTstation! Installing PPP went fairly well, but there were, of course, a few glitches: * GateKeeper connects properly, but doesn't reflect that in its status window. It seems to get stuck on "Entering Password". The online clock never starts (well, it did once, but I'm not sure why). Everything seems to work fine, but GateKeeper seems to be in limbo. * PopOver works, but won't let me delete mail (with the "delete" button). The mail grays for a moment then turns black again. But I have successfully sent and received mail with both of my pop accounts. By the way, I had my modem cable custom-fabricated by Advanced Cable Systems, in Bellevue, WA (425-556-1721) for $18, cheaper than anywhere else I've seen. Any input appreciated ... does this post seem to have the right headers etc? Thanks in advance. Please e-mail too.
From: max@maxgraphic.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: GateKeeper/PPP config Date: 7 May 1997 04:19:26 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <5kovse$hb7$1@brokaw.wa.com> References: <5koul1$hlb$1@brokaw.wa.com> max@maxgraphic.com writes > * PopOver works, but won't let me delete mail (with the "delete" button). > The mail grays for a moment then turns black again. But I have > successfully sent and received mail with both of my pop accounts. Whups, never mind. I reread the help a little more carefully. So, just the GateKeeper oddity, then. Thanks, Max
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From: ihate@spammers.com (bf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Book on Objective-C? Date: 7 May 1997 04:47:11 GMT Organization: Crack Whores of America Message-ID: <5kp1gf$jl3$1@brokaw.wa.com> I just aquired a NeXT station with 3.2 developer loaded on it. I can already code in plain old C and would like to learn how to code Objective C/Next GUI. Can anyone suggest a good book which teaches Objective C/Next GUI stuff without going over basic C? Thanks -brian -------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.halcyon.com/larryf/ -- Email: larryf at halcyon dot com ----------------------------------------------------- --NOTE: Email address in header is fake due to spam-- --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: see-url@bottom (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: "Files not saving properly" in WriteNow etc. Date: 6 May 1997 14:36:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ko881$ntc$1@nnrp01.primenet.com> References: <5k22no$13o@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> Cc: sbrandon@music.gla.ac.uk In <5k22no$13o@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> Stephen Brandon - SysAdmin wrote: > I've had a number of users report problems recently with "I thought I had > saved the file I was working on, but when I opened it the next day the > changes had not been made". This has apparently occurred in OpenWrite, > Calliope, and WriteNow. > > I have known this to happen in OpenWrite, often to do with resizing images > (the changes are not always saved). Not consistent. > > I have known very strange things to happen with Calliope, and am in > frequent correspondence with Dr William Clocksin regarding this. > > But WriteNow...??? I am tempted to believe that the students here are > jumping on the bandwagon of claiming that the software is at fault, since > other users have found problems in Calliope etc. > > Has anyone out there EVER had a problem with WriteNow reporting that it > has saved a file when in fact it hasn't? I have tried to repeat this > behaviour, including trying to save to nearly-full disks, but it seems to > handle these appropriately. Ideas anyone? Not the specific problem you mention, but there *is* a serious bug lurking in the header/footer operations, where after inserting a header (and performing some arbitrary steps) sometimes the header/footer simply "disappears". And this is where the insidious nature of the bug becomes apparent-- The program continues to operate normally, will save the file, but after the file is saved, the program will refuse to open it again... ever. -- Robert Worne (Spam has gotten out of hand!) Mail: http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/email.html //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 15:02:17 -0600 From: Thomas McCarthy <tmccarth@usc.edu> Subject: PPP guru needed in L.A. area Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <862947441.22243@dejanews.com> Organization: University of Southern California I need help setting up a PPP connection from the L.A. area. I have an account with Pacific Bell (that I have yet to use successfully), OPENSTEP 4.1 on a Turbo Color slab, a SupraFax modem 28.8, NXFax software, and no clue. I have had tried for about 3 months, but with no luck. I can offer food, money, whatever to anyone who can get this working correctly. Please e-mail me -- no NeXTmail (no kidding) -- or call to discuss the details. Tom --- Thomas McCarthy tmccarth@usc.edu (No NeXTmail) (818) 446-5110 (H) (213) 740-5692 (W) -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb or other most current OpenStep browser Date: 10 May 1997 12:43:56 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5l1qic$sea$3@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5juin3$9jt$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970427103211.10515A-100000@kira> <Jorg.Schumacher-0605971747000001@129.194.16.73> <5kvfq7$jir$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> Ken Case (kc@ignem.omnigroup.com) wrote: > OmniWeb is still available, whether or not Lighthouse is still > interested in selling it. (In fact, OmniWeb 3 is just around the > corner...) It's great to see that the excellent folks from OmniGroup are still around, and, unlike Lighthouse, still support their customers. Keep up the great work! All the best, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: inet97@ameritech.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 04:55:04 PDT Message-ID: <cancel.5l19n2$sck$4727@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <5l19n2$sck$4727@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Control: cancel <5l19n2$sck$4727@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Sat May 10 15:07:35 1997 Original subject was: A GUARANTEED MONEY MAKER!!
From: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ~ Lighthouse Applications end of life!? Date: 7 May 1997 08:22:14 GMT Organization: Delft University of Technology Message-ID: <5kpe3m$5st$1@news.tudelft.nl> References: <5koce0$mih@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes > > If they are rewriting the applications, and the new versions > only need java support (such as MRJ), then I don't see why > there'd be any reason to frown. Sounds like a reasonable idea > to me, assuming the applications work as well as the NeXTSTEP > versions have. No, certainly not. DPS functionality is VERY important to the lighthouse suite and cannot be easily delivered with Java as we know it now. From sources within Ligthouse I received indications as follows: - lighthouse is NOT going to thrash the suite - no official statements have been submitted yet, but some announcements might be made in the nearby future So, keep hope, there seems to be light at the horizon ! Abraham. _____________________________________________________________________ Abraham Guyt P.O.Box 356 Department of Information Systems 2600 AJ Delft Faculty Technical Mathematics & Informatics The Netherlands Delft University of Technology tel: +31 15 78 5969 E-mail: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl NeXT-mail welcome
From: "Tony Chow" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CDPlayer.app Date: 10 May 1997 15:41:49 GMT Organization: N/A Message-ID: <01bc5d15$977c1880$0c0c0c0c@odrade> I'm looking to do a Windows port of it. I'd appreciate if someone can tar/zip up cdplayer.app and mail it to me.
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Private to Todd Nathan Date: 10 May 1997 17:10:27 GMT Organization: Customer of EUnet/PING Austria Message-ID: <5l2a63$e4c$1@news.Austria.EU.net> References: <5kt26q$2gl@shelob.afs.com> In-Reply-To: <5kt26q$2gl@shelob.afs.com> On 05/08/97, Gregory H. Anderson wrote: >Todd, you contacted AFS about beta testing, but your email return address ><tnathan@mailserv.metro.mci.com> is unreachable. Please contact me with >another alternative. Thanks. Me too, please, concerning LBII promotion issues. Thanks, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://members.ping.at/stefan/
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS April Quiz results, new May Quiz started Date: 3 May 1997 15:42:31 GMT Organization: Customer of EUnet/PING Austria Message-ID: <5kfmd7$dha$1@news.Austria.EU.net> The SSS April Quiz has ended, the winners are drawn, and the new May Quiz has started NOW! For April results as well as for the new May quiz question, please visit http://members.ping.at/stefan/quiz.html Deadline for the new quiz is June 1. As always, the winners will receive a free HelpViewer *or* LatinByrd license, or alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software (including SuperDraw, SuperDebugger, and others). Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://members.ping.at/stefan/
From: inet97@ameritech.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Make Money With Your Computer! Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 17:09:51 PDT Organization: Internet Communications Inc. Message-ID: <5l2kom$ipl$4740@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> E-Mail Your Way To Riches! Dear Friend, We all know E-mail is here to stay. It's fun, easy and exciting! Would you be interested if we could show you a way to make well over $1,000 per week doing it? This is not a joke. You may have seen many people trying to tell you that you can make money by joining this or that scheme! Guess what, you decide to go for it and then you get nothing but frustration and disappointment! We are here to take your frustration and disappointment into an Electrifying Adventure! We have been marketing on-line for almost 2 years now! We have never spent one red penny on advertising and made nothing but profits. We can show you how to make money every day of the year. 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From: "Tony Chow" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where the heck is Optimal Object? Date: 10 May 1997 21:51:55 GMT Organization: N/A Message-ID: <01bc5d49$4a3033c0$0c0c0c0c@odrade> I can't find them at www.optimal-object.com any more! Where the hell are they? How am I supposed to get the Academic Pack?
From: jvillaci@cs.indiana.edu (Juan E. Villacis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: strippers wanted Date: 6 May 1997 22:20:16 -0500 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Message-ID: <5kosdg$hoj@moose.cs.indiana.edu> Hi, Are there any binary strippers available for NS3.2 on black hardware? TIA -juan
From: "Ken-ichi Ogasawara" <genesis@da2.so-net.or.jp> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: EOF and ORACLE Workgroup Server Date: 10 May 1997 15:50:41 GMT Organization: So-net Message-ID: <01bc5d59$65ffb2a0$4eb884d2@ewbogasawara> Has anyone tried ORALE Workgroup Server(for WindowsNT) on EOF Windows version? I`m little worried using ORACLE on EOF even though EOF can handle ORACLE adapter and ODBC driver. Thanks,regards.
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From: Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where the heck is Optimal Object? Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 20:09:00 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970510200329.9942A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <01bc5d49$4a3033c0$0c0c0c0c@odrade> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <01bc5d49$4a3033c0$0c0c0c0c@odrade> On 10 May 1997, Tony Chow wrote: > I can't find them at www.optimal-object.com any more! Where the hell are > they? How am I supposed to get the Academic Pack? > Gone. Check out http://www.blackholeinc.com/ Rudy.
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From: NO_SPAM.michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] Router under NextStep? Date: 10 May 1997 12:06:40 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5l1ocg$2ha$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <rbarris-ya023280000505971417440001@news.intelenet.com> rbarris@quicksilver.com (Rob Barris) wrote: > A couple of my friends are putting together a PC-Linux based thing that >will act as a smart router or gateway, allowing roommates to share the cost >of a cable modem service while supporting as many machines as they care to >connect within the home; basically multiplexing their traffic through a >single IP address to the modem. > > I'm wondering if any such router/gateway services exist under NextStep, >either built in to the OS or as something which can be installed on it. I >have a NextStation running 3.3 User. A Nextstep machine is able to act as a router like any other Unix machine. But I think, for your special situation this is not of interest. If you want to get in contact with the net over a simple router, you need official IP addresses, so that not only you know, how to get in contact with the world but also the world knows a way to get in contact with you. On a Linux machine you can configure IP masquerading (also called NAT), which solves this problem: the unofficial internal addresses are converted to the official router address by the gateway (see Linux Masquerading Mini HowTo). Using this mechanism you can hide a whole network behind one address. IP masquerading is AFAIK not available for Nextstep. If you only want Web or FTP access for your roommates, it is the best to install a WWW Proxy like Squid on the machine with access to the internet. If you need other services like telnet you are out of luck. A way would be to install a firewall and application gateways on the machine, but I don't know, if there exists one for Nextstep. With TIS there is a free firewall toolkit for Linux which comes with sources, but I don't know if someone tried to port it to Nextstep. If you have some official IP addresses for your internal network, all above is off topic ;-) Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <851862718425@digifix.com> Date: 11 May 1997 03:58:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <8856863323226@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. 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You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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From: inet97@ameritech.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5l2kom$ipl$4740@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Control: cancel <5l2kom$ipl$4740@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 05:35:43 +1 Organization: Internet Communications Inc. Message-ID: <cancel.5l2kom$ipl$4740@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> References: <5l2kom$ipl$4740@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "InternetCommunicationsInc" or "summary of auto-cancellations" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: Make Money With Your Computer!.
From: "Scott A. Perry" <sperry@os-knight.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! Trying to install NextStep 3.3 on Sparc 5 w/dual ethernet Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 02:19:46 -0500 Organization: OS-Knight Corp. Message-ID: <33757312.1411@os-knight.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help, I am trying to install NextStep 3.3 for Sparc on a Sparc 5 that has a SCSI/Ethernet SBus card in it. I try booting and it hangs on the network interface initialization. Are there any drivers that I can apply to get past this hump? (Removing the SBus card is not an option). Thanks in Advance. Desperately Seeking Solution, Scott A. Perry sperry@os-knight.com P.S. Could you please email me as I don't get a chance to read this group as often as I'd like (I just can't seem to get away from those 4 hours/night of sleep). Again, thanks. Scott
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv for Intel? Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 06:13:25 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970508061059.4087C-100000@kira> References: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Zdzislaw H. Stan Lewantowicz" <zlewanto@stan.donet.com> In-Reply-To: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> Please don't xpost to csn.misc... On 8 May 1997, Zdzislaw H. Stan Lewantowicz wrote: > Was a version of Lotus Improv offered for Intel NeXTStep? If so, how can one > obtain a copy? As far as I have heard in previous versions of this thread, no, but Lighthouse had some similar app that would import Improv dcs. > Currently am ruuning a version on my trusty Cube 040, but am slowly migrating > to an Intel NS3.3 platform. Are your NXHosting it now? I've got a copy of Diagram! on my slab that I want to continue to use so I'm NXHosting it. > Ditto for FrameMaker 3.2 Not sure about this.... TjL
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Root password help Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 06:18:12 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970508061715.4087D-100000@kira> References: <19970508033200.XAA07414@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Grund63303 <grund63303@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <19970508033200.XAA07414@ladder01.news.aol.com> I have written up a step by step on how to do this which you can find at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/vfaq/ TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Talker - a 'talk' interceptor for NeXTSTEP/OpenStep Date: 8 May 1997 16:11:38 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5kstvq$6di$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> Hello folks! In my ongoing quest of programming little tools I have now put Talker on my web page (http://www.this.net/~frank/ in the download area). What does this program do? It installs itself as a shell and waits for incoming 'talk' requests. If a request is coming in it will pop up a window telling you who is trying to call you and starts a 'talk' connection to the remote user if you click in this notification window. Thus it allows you to get 'talk' requests even if you do not run Terminal.app and if your run a lot of open shells to find the source of the talk request very fast. Talker does not use any network stuff itself, you can let your old talkd and talk programm installed. It does not need any special setup, except for the addition of the 'mesg n' command in the system dot files (eg. .cshrc or .zshrc so it will be the only one to receive talk request in a system) and setting Talker up as SUID root (to allow it to write to /etc/utmp). I hope I have not introduced any security holes in Talker, please let me know if you find anything suspicious. The source code will be made available hopefully soon. It is only tested on Intel NeXTSTEP 3.3 where it seems to work fine, please let me know if it works on m68k and OpenStep too. In case you do not know what 'talk' is I suggest you enter 'man talk' in a shell window. It can be a handy thing to have. --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: kc@ignem.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep upgrade problems Date: 11 May 1997 17:39:26 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5l508e$n5$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <5kvhla$9nv$1@news-2.csn.net> Brendan Forsyth (bff@csn.net) wrote: : The other problem is nameserver calls will cease to work although the tcp : stack is still opertional. For example, 'rlogin hostname' returns : "bus error". but telnet xx.xx.xx.xx works. nslookup works. This seems to be caused by a bug in the new caching lookup agent. Our solution here was to disable the CacheAgent entirely by entering the following in NetInfo in /locations/lookupd: name = lookupd; CHILDREN = { name = hosts; LookupOrder = (NIAgent, DNSAgent); ValidateCache = NO; }; (That is, we only use NetInfo and DNS for looking up hosts, and never the CacheAgent.) For more information on changing the lookup order for various services, see /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/ReleaseNotes/lookupd.rtf. NeXT is aware of the problem, hopefully it will be fixed soon. -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Private to Todd Nathan Date: 8 May 1997 17:23:38 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5kt26q$2gl@shelob.afs.com> Todd, you contacted AFS about beta testing, but your email return address <tnathan@mailserv.metro.mci.com> is unreachable. Please contact me with another alternative. Thanks. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: duplex printing bug Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:51:42 +0200 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <3376153E.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5kvvga$ae6$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacques Distler wrote: > > According to NeXTanswers 1831, there is a bug in NS 3.3 which prevents > printing to an HP LaserJet 4Si-MX in duplex mode. Does anyone know if this > bug has been fixed in a later release of OpensStep? > > Jacques Distler Try this: ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/96.1-Fruehjahr/ hope it work stefan -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv for Intel? Date: 11 May 1997 14:53:58 -0400 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <5l54k6$jj6@papoose.quick.com> References: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> In article <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com>, Zdzislaw H. "Stan" Lewantowicz <zlewanto@stan.donet.com> wrote: >Was a version of Lotus Improv offered for Intel NeXTStep? If so, how can one >obtain a copy? > >Currently am ruuning a version on my trusty Cube 040, but am slowly migrating >to an Intel NS3.3 platform. Improv was never released FAT. Lighthouse Design made a quite good Improv-like spreadsheet called Quantrix. I have used that for 4-5 years now and have been quite happy with it. p.s. I hope LightHouse gets off the fence and decides to port their apps to Rhapsody. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars?
From: salvo@accessone.com (Marc Salvatori) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Book on Objective-C? Date: 11 May 1997 19:42:32 GMT Organization: Brittania Sportswear, LTD Message-ID: <5l57f8$3fo$2@kanga.accessone.com> References: <5kp1gf$jl3$1@brokaw.wa.com> Cc: ihate@spammers.com In <5kp1gf$jl3$1@brokaw.wa.com> bf wrote: > I just aquired a NeXT station with 3.2 developer loaded on it. I can > already code in plain old C and would like to learn how to code > Objective C/Next GUI. Can anyone suggest a good book which teaches > Objective C/Next GUI stuff without going over basic C? Thanks http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Books/index.html should give you a good place to start, Brian. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | >< >< mailto:salvo@accessone.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted ><
From: Alex Hartley <alexhrt@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Software password Date: 11 May 1997 15:23:01 -0700 Organization: Alex Hartley and Associates Message-ID: <3376477D.6A4D@primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am changing my NeXT '30 cube motherboard. The new board used to boot from the ethernet and has a password. I can't make it boot from the hard drive because I don't know the password. Is there a way around this? Thanks! Alex
From: "Christian Jensen" <chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Best internet connectivity app for NeXT?? Date: 11 May 1997 22:58:44 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <01bc5e5e$f0caf1a0$e4ca92cf@default> I am attempting to connect a NeXTcube to the internet, with no luck so far, and would like to ask: What are folks using out there? I have tried GateKeeper 2.0 b6, with no luck: If I install the pkg, I get the question-mark "damaged" app, and if I de-compress the source version, it contains no makefile (just a preamble). I'm not a coder anyway, so I'd prefer not to work with source if I can avoid it. Should I try GateKeeper 1.0? I am also investigating SImpleInternextStarterKit, which seems unnecessarily complicated, with multiple pkg files to install and numerous far-flung configurations to make. Does anyone out there use this? Any tips? I have installed ppp 2.2, which seems to load OK. Beyond this, I have the problems above. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! --Chris **************************************************** Chris Jensen chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net
From: ch480124@ms5.hinet.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Running OPENSTEP 4.1 on Cycle-5 Date: 12 May 1997 01:09:22 GMT Organization: DCI HiNet Message-ID: <5l5qk2$pk1@netnews.hinet.net> NNTP-Posting-User: ch480124 Recently I bought a Cycle Computer Cycle-5 TurboSPARC board to replace SS1+ motherboard. So far it runs SunOS 4.1.4 and Solaris 2.5.1 without any problem, and FAST! But installation of OPENSTEP 4.1 (Mach version) onto this system is not successful. I can boot OPENSTEP 4.1 USER CD off the CD-ROM drive and start loading the Mach kernel. In the middle of starting Mach kernel, the system gives me the following message: Memory Exception (0,0,1) And the options I got were C)ontinue or R)eboot. C)ontinue gives me the same message. What gives? I have 64MB of RAM in this sytem. Thanks for any help. Chester Lin ch480124@ms5.hinet.net chester@mackey.hinet.net
From: Martin Lightheart <martin@lei.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ADB I/O Programming & Utilities Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 21:40:41 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <33767519.33C7@lei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Has done or know of, any ADB utilities for the ADB NeXT boxes? Something to let you know what ADB devices are out there. How many ADB devices can you have on a NeXT (besides keyboard and mouse)? Martin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ah, my QuickCam works! Message-ID: <1997May11.185209.98044@cc.usu.edu> From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 11 May 97 18:52:09 MDT Distribution: world Well, I pulled the first image off my QuickCam today under NeXTSTEP 3.3. Now, it's Miller time... I'll be adding a couple of bells and whistles during the next week or so, including a CamView that will allow developers to drag a QuickCam display into their own applications. I'll be needing beta testers. If you're interested, drop me a line at edx@cc.usu.edu Thanks.
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone use NuMega BoundsChecker on NT with OPENSTEP apps? Date: 8 May 1997 20:42:21 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <5ktdrd$na7$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> I'd be interested to hear about anyone who has attempted to use NuMega BoundsChecker to error check OpenStep applications. Thanks, Chuck -- Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck --------------------------------------------------------------------- chuck_esterbrook@orcacomputer.com / vo 540 231-3475 / fx 540 231-3480 Orca Computer, Inc. / 1800 Kraft Dr. Suite 111 / Blacksburg, VA 24060
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTTIME can't play sound, missing ima4 decompressor Date: 12 May 1997 02:31:29 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5l5ve1$9nq$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I bought the NEXTTIME CD when it came out a few years ago, and have been using it ever since, with mixed results. Lately, the problem is that I don't get sound and I get messages such as the following (generated from trying to play Kasparov's defeat): "Cannot play sound from chess.39sec.mov. Sound is not available or requires a missing ima4 decompressor." Is there a converter program for the quicktime files or some kind of module that I can add to my NEXTTIME installation to work with these quicktime movies? (I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.2 / Intel. NEXTTIME Release 1.0 (25.8).) -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: duplex printing bug Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:10:31 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <distler-1105972210310001@slip-37-4.ots.utexas.edu> References: <5kvvga$ae6$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3376153E.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> In article <3376153E.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>, Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> wrote: >> According to NeXTanswers 1831, there is a bug in NS 3.3 which prevents >> printing to an HP LaserJet 4Si-MX in duplex mode. Does anyone know if this >> bug has been fixed in a later release of OpensStep? >Try this: > >ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/96.1-Fruehjahr/ > >hope it work Hmmm. . . . I'll try the modified ppd file out. But I am not optimistic. Looking at it, all I can see is that it makes duplex printing the default instead of simplex printing. I already tried doing that, to no avail. Has anyone actually gotten this to work on a LaserJet 4Si? Jacques
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GCC 2.7.2.2 Help Date: 8 May 1997 17:34:01 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5kt2q9$aik@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5kbata$38e@news.jump.net> <5kqah6$947@news.tuwien.ac.at> <5kqthh$9j4$4@darla.visi.com> Cc: daver@Geeks.ORG In <5kqthh$9j4$4@darla.visi.com> David Young wrote: > > Side note: GNU make 3.75 out of the box has a bug that will cause it to > dump core on NeXT systems. If you run it under gdb and do a backtrace (bt) > you'll quickly see where the problem is; as I recall it's something like > glob.c, and you need to change an if (*ptr == ' ') to if(ptr) if(*ptr == ' ') Hmm... I have installed gnumake as ftp'd from the gnu sites on 2 intel boxes and 1 next box, and never had this problem. I wonder if this was maybe already fixed in the standard distribution. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: psybeast@pond.com (PsyBeast) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Just Got a NeXT "Cube" Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 01:18:29 -0500 Organization: the Dragon Distribution: inet Message-ID: <psybeast-ya02408000R1205970118290001@news.pond.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As of Friday, I now have a NeXT "Cube" running around my apartment, ethernet that is. The only major problem at this stage of the game, is that I need a Clean New OS install. The cube came with what appears to be all the basic manuals, and a blank 256MB MO cartridge... and NOTHING else!!!! When I log on as root, the icons in my apps dock are generic icons, and I have NO /NextApps directory/folder... All I have is /NextDeveloper, Library, Tour... and therefor, NO services... I want to reformat the drive... and begin FRESH... I have files that have NOT been touched since 1990... I need an OS... I did manage to upgrade the cube to 28MBs of RAM, and it already comes with an '040 with a 660HD and MO drive... no floppy... I want to connect it to my existing HOME ethernet network, and turn it into a possible print/file server... I did get the NeXT LaserWriter with it... I already have a PMac 7100/66/2xCD/56MB RAM/1GB HD... MacIIci 32MB/250 HD/DayStar cache card... Mac SE 4/80... HP DeskWriter w/Mini EtherPrint box... all connected with Cat 5 to a Dayna MiniHub-8... I have spent a good part of the weekend reading what I have in print, including the "Upgrading to Release 2.0", and I have surfed the various Net homepages, and found some GREAT FUTURE INFO... but, I have a really operating OS... In my searches, I was not able to find a place, where I could download ANY version... Did I miss something?? At NeXTes homepage, I found the multiple-K stuff without a problem, I am NOT an Enterprise... I just want to get a simple basic OS... Bonuses would be WriteNow... Mathematica... Websters... etc... I have emailed the folks at NeXT... and seeing it was the weekend, I really did not expect to hear anything til Monday... I did get an AutoAnswer from there mailer... Where can I find and OS!! I am willing to spend a couple hundred bucks for a LEGAL copy (factory sealed). Or, I do have a T1 at work and a major credit card... SCSI storage is NOT a problem... I carry a 3.2GBs HD around for work... I also have a 7300/180 with 2GBs... At home, externally, there is a 500HD, 1GB HD, 230HD 3.5" MO, 45MB SyQuest, and a 1xCD... I am also planning to hookup a TeleBit T-3000... In the new apartment, I'm looking at ISDN... July 1st time frame... In the new apartment, it looks like there will be at least three WinTels; 386/Win3.X, 486/Win95, 596/NT4 added to the HomeNet... Looking to go to TCP/IP... Again, after all that background info, I come back to my basic question... Where can I get a LEGAL version of a NeXT OS that will run on a NeXT 040/28MB RAM/660MB HD/256MB MO???? I you have any other comments, please send them along to me... Please don't spam... If I did miss something... Sorry, but I could not easily find it in the FAQs online... I have done some reading in my life, and I generally enjoy useful, practical information... I also submit the above with the knowledge that MacOS 8.0 is just around the corner, and Rhapsody's light might just be seen at the end of the WWDC next week's tunnel. Thanks in advance, Psybeast psybeast@pond.com www.pond.com/~psybeast ----- "He who has imagination without learning has wings but no feet" - Chinese future cookie
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app Date: 12 May 1997 03:04:54 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5l61cm$r1g@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <01bc5d15$977c1880$0c0c0c0c@odrade> "Tony Chow" <everblue@ucla.edu> wrote: > I'm looking to do a Windows port of it. I'd appreciate if someone > can tar/zip up cdplayer.app and mail it to me. The demo called CDPlayer.app was written by NeXT, and included along with the operating system. I haven't checked the 4.x releases, but NeXTSTEP 3.x did not include the source for CDPlayer.app, just the app itself. It'd be pretty tricky to do a windows port of it based on just the executable, and I'm not all that sure you'd have any right to do that anyway (not without checking with the folks who wrote it). About all that you'd get that would be of any use would be all the cool graphics, and those were done by Keith Ohlfs when he was still working at NeXT. You'd have to ask Apple or maybe Keith if you could use them for a Windows application. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: the call for a decent filesystem Date: 12 May 1997 03:17:12 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5l623o$r1g@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <3373EB17.5C4577EE@excell.com> Dayne Miller <daynem@excell.com> wrote: > Well, Apple just got trumped. BeOS DR9 is shipping with a > high-performance 64-bit journaling filesystem (according to their > Web page, anyway). OpenStep is poking along with FFS and a 2GB > limit; MacOS is is hobbled by HFS. We have already been told that Rhapsody will ship to users with the new kernel, and that it will not have the 2GB limit. I doubt it is a journaling filesystem. I don't know if this will be ready for the first developers' release, but Apple does intend to have it before the first general release. > To be taken seriously as a server OS, Rhapsody needs something > better than it has. I do not think that Apple is trying to create the worlds greatest "server OS" with Rhapsody. > I definitely suggest that Apple consider licensing the BeFS, > assuming it lives up to its billing (and Be is willing to do such > a thing...). Especially since a lot of people will probably be > running BeOS and Rhapsody on the same box -- I know I will. Apple has enough work to do with Rhapsody right now. From what we've heard, we will not face the 2 gig limit. I see no reason for Apple to go racing off after the Be file system, at least not right this minute. Apple will have plenty to work on this year without adding another big project to the mix. > At the very least license SGI's XFS -- or implement something > better. Just don't accept anything less than the competition > has. NTFS is a pretty good filesystem -- Rhapsody needs something > comparable or (preferably) better. Journaling, 64-bit, guaranteed > bandwidth (ala XFS), ACLs, filesystem compression (ala NTFS), > etc. > > Does anyone disagree? I would like most if not all of these things, but I don't think it should be a high priority for Apple to work on at this time. As long as Rhapsody is not hampered by the 2-gig limit that NeXTSTEP currently has, then I think it will be fine for now. On the other hand, if Apple thought they *could* get an even better filesystem together for Rhapsody, and it did *not* delay the release of Rhapsody, then I would be happy to see it. However, it is more important for Apple to live up to it's schedule than it is for it to be the ideal "server OS". Right now, one of Apple's biggest problems is crediability with it's developers. Delaying Rhapsody to rework the filesystem will not do Apple any good. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: duplex printing bug Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:57:41 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <863431061.9720.0.nnrp-1.c30b1c09@news.demon.co.uk> References: <5kvvga$ae6$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> In article <5kvvga$ae6$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) writes: > According to NeXTanswers 1831, there is a bug in NS 3.3 which prevents > printing to an HP LaserJet 4Si-MX in duplex mode. Does anyone know if this > bug has been fixed in a later release of OpensStep? > Hi, Its an incompatibility between the NeXT way of preparing PostScript and and HP way of interpreting it. We have a PPD product which has all sorts of features including. Duplex fix for HP's Paper size aliasing, ie print letter size documents on A4 Fast copies (ie engine speed for 2nd+ copies) Watermarks such as "draft", "Confidential" etc Controlling the collation modes This all works on most PostScript mono and colour printers (Some features require level II) The free version has the duplex fix. Its available of the archives or via email from ourselves. --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc | UK phone: 01702 426400 | Vendors of NS/OS 351 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | MCCAs, Hardware Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | Apps, Networks Essex | | ISDN, Training SS7 2BT | Email: david@onestep.co.uk | Maintenance England | (NeXTMail/MIME ok) | and Support
From: DAVID HOUTS <dhouts@haywire.csuhayward.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Book on Objective-C? Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 19:35:15 -0700 Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970508193103.8491B-100000@haywire.csuhayward.edu> References: <5kp1gf$jl3$1@brokaw.wa.com> <Pine.LNX.3.96.970507094918.21862F-100000@yorick.nerc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: luomat@peak.org In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970507094918.21862F-100000@yorick.nerc.com> One is, "NeXTSTEP PROGRAMMING-STEP ONE:Object-Oriented Applications Simson L. Garfinkel & Micheal K. Mahoney Telos: Electronic Library of Science Springer-Verlag Publishers 3600 Pruneridge Ave Santa Clara, CA 95051 On Wed, 7 May 1997, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > On 7 May 1997, bf wrote: > > > I just aquired a NeXT station with 3.2 developer loaded on it. I can > > already code in plain old C and would like to learn how to code > > Objective C/Next GUI. Can anyone suggest a good book which teaches > > Objective C/Next GUI stuff without going over basic C? Thanks > > There are a couple books out there that cover NeXTstep programming.... > > Check your local Barnes & Noble.... mine has them both in the programming > section.... > > Someone else will hopefully provide the titles.... > > TjL > > > > >
From: xx yy <user@group.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.3 Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:49:15 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Message-ID: <3377824B.2633@group.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, Recently acquired a NeXT Cube 040 that runs the 2.1 version of NS. I would like to have NS 3.3. on it. Can someone help me get this? I live in Holland. Thanks very much Maurice van Steensel m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl
From: Žiboehme@abm08.abm.de (Ivo Boehme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 10 seconds of hell Date: 12 May 1997 12:47:48 GMT Organization: Nacamar Data Communications Message-ID: <5l73hk$rbg$1@news.nacamar.de> References: <33767F2E.6DBD@iconn.net> Hitting <Return>? John LaViola <jlaviola@iconn.net> wrote: > Does anyone know how to permanently bypass the 10 second boot prompt > wait in NS 3.3?
From: lennart@triumph.holland.sun.com (Lennart Broekhof - ENS BeNeLux - Desktop Support Engineer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT OS Date: 12 May 1997 13:36:23 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <5l76cn$hi4@flonk.uk.sun.com> I'm looking for NeXT OS to get my NeXT station finaly working. Can anyone help me ? Thanks, Lennart
From: Maurice van Steensel <m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NEXTSTEP 3.3 Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:58:04 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Message-ID: <3377BC9C.70D@antrg.azn.nl> References: <3377824B.2633@group.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit xx yy wrote: > > Hi All, > > Recently acquired a NeXT Cube 040 that runs the 2.1 version of NS. I > would like to have NS 3.3. on it. Can someone help me get this? I live in > Holland. > > Thanks very much > > Maurice van Steensel > m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl Hi; changed the prefs in my netscape so now my name appears where it should. I'm not xxyy but Maurice. Sorry for the inconvenience
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mgoedel@m.isar.de Subject: FWTK Message-ID: <EA1I07.BLt@muaddib.m.isar.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 23:16:55 GMT Is there a complied version out for the FWTK (Fire Wall Tool Kit) for Black? Nice Greetings from Munich MaX(T) -- __ Michael Maximilian Goedel | Agilolfinger Platz 10 /\_\ KARSTADT AG Unternehmensbereich IW | 81543 Muenchen \/_/ Sysadmin der cyberb@r | Tel.: 049 89 652918 NeXTSTEP! mgoedel@m.isar.de (NeXT) | Work: 049 89 2902-5418
From: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Omniweb/SOCKS question Date: 12 May 1997 19:44:52 GMT Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <5l7rvk$p82$1@nuke.csu.net> Hi. We have a surly firewall here at work. As such I can't do ftp easily without socks. Does anyone have a /etc/socks.conf file that I could look at so as to configure Omniweb to do ftp requests properly? Thanks, thomas@cs.sonoma.edu devjava@jps.net thomas@ireadyco.com <NeXTMail/MIME accepted here>
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Best News Reader? Date: 12 May 1997 20:36:29 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5l7v0d$1a7$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <33704E06.1ECC@earthlink.net> <5krfet$qlm$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> <5krh6v$n3v$1@news.digifix.com> In-Reply-To: <5krh6v$n3v$1@news.digifix.com> On 05/08/97, Scott Anguish wrote: > I'm not quite as biased as Chris :-), but I'd suggest >NewsFlash as well.. its my personal favorite... > Likewise, however I would rather like a couple of enhancements to NewsFlash: the ability to cc posts by email would be good, I'd rather have new posts created with Command-n and new news retrieved by Command-N (consistent with Mail), rather than the other way round; recognition of other post formats, including auto-extraction of uuencoded includes etc. Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: pparker@zilker.net (Patrick D. Parker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep/Windows development Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:39:41 -0600 Organization: The Magellan Group Message-ID: <pparker-1205972039410001@kuddp38.zilker.net> I am looking into cross-platform development options using Open Step. If I want to deploy on Windows 95/NT today, as well as Mac OS/Rhapsody/Others in the future, what are my development options? Specifically: What hardware/software combinations can I use for development? What is involved in deploying an Open Step application on Windows? Open Step runtime libraries? Additional fees? Performance hits? Memory penalties? Currently I am supporting Windows/Mac OS using Visix Galaxy, and I'm looking at other alternatives. Thanks for any help. Patrick Parker
From: Grant Passmore<skaboy@usa.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Infusion Subject: Infusion BBS Software Message-ID: <33765da0.0@data.wt.net> Date: 12 May 97 00:00:32 GMT I just thought I'd let everyone know.... There is finally a BBS Software with all of the great features of OBV/2 and Iniquity, but without the bugs and bad support. Infusion BBS Software is a new generation in BBS Software, modeled after OBV/2 and Iniquity with everything that the sysop can imagine..and more. Some basic features are: o Multi-node upto 255 concurrent users o Light-bar support [arrow keys] o Requires NO Fossil Driver [selectable FOSSIL, ASYNC, and Digiboard for each node] o Online Configuration [menu editor, string editor, evemt editor, node editor, system editor, etc] o Pipe Color Codes o MCI Codes o Powerful scripting language o Internal One-Liners, Blacklist, voting booth, etc o Internal Z-Modem, X-Modem, Y-Modem, Y-modem-g [no limit to external protocols] o Internal COMM Program with internal protocols, Auto Up/DL o Great support o Basically all of the great features of OBV/2 and Iniquity combined Infusion has been picked up by fuEl [international art group], and Infusion 1.0th will be released June 10th. Come to the Infusion Home-Page at http://web.wt.net/~sparky/ibbs/ and jump into the JAVA Based Chatroom, or come to the ANNEX, the official Infusion IRC Server [irc.annex.net] #infusion / #bbs send the author skaboy101 [Grant Passmore] E-mail at skaboy@usa.net -lata skaboy101
From: droleary@alpha.temporal.org (Doc O'Leary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where the heck is Optimal Object? Date: 13 May 1997 06:03:04 GMT Organization: University of Minnesota Message-ID: <5l906o$sjm@epx.cis.umn.edu> References: <01bc5d49$4a3033c0$0c0c0c0c@odrade> On 10 May 1997 21:51:55 GMT, Tony Chow <everblue@ucla.edu> wrote: >I can't find them at www.optimal-object.com any more! Where the hell are >they? How am I supposed to get the Academic Pack? This should be an FAQ by now. They are dead. Apple has taken over the distribution of academic bundles. You should be able to order through your campus computer store. -- Copyright 1997 by Doc O'Leary. Author of the wildly unsuccessful "DOS and Windows for People Who Still Have a Clue"
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <33765da0.0@data.wt.net> Date: 13 May 1997 06:26:00 GMT Control: cancel <33765da0.0@data.wt.net> Message-ID: <cancel.33765da0.0@data.wt.net> Sender: Grant Passmore<skaboy@usa.net> Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: "Bruce J. Dolby" <B.Dolby@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Command line eps to jpeg convertet Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:44:59 +0200 Organization: Alcatel SEL Message-ID: <33781BFB.1C4E@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi NeXT people! I'm looking for a command line converter that can convert eps to jpeg or eps to gif. Can anyone tell me where I could find such a converter? A thousand thanks. Bruce J. Dolby
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: 10 seconds of hell Message-ID: <EA48A3.56s@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid References: <33767F2E.6DBD@iconn.net> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 10:39:39 GMT John LaViola <jlaviola@iconn.net> wrote: >Does anyone know how to permanently bypass the 10 second boot prompt >wait in NS 3.3? Yep. Don't reboot. :-) -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt."
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: whence 4.4 Unix? Date: 13 May 1997 13:36:00 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5l9qo0$qbf$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> Greetings etherial composite mind, Will OpenStep 4.2 have 4.4 Berkeley UNIX? Regards, Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net)
From: dirk@object-factory.com (Dirk Olmes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Talker - a 'talk' interceptor for NeXTSTEP/OpenStep Date: 13 May 1997 12:18:14 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <5l9m66$mms$1@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <5kstvq$6di$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: > Hello folks! > > In my ongoing quest of programming little tools I have now put Talker on my > web page (http://www.this.net/~frank/ in the download area). > > What does this program do? It installs itself as a shell and waits for > incoming 'talk' requests. If a request is coming in it will pop up a window > telling you who is trying to call you and starts a 'talk' connection to the > remote user if you click in this notification window. YES. This is the tool I've always been wanting to write (but never had the time to get into terminals and ttys). It works really smooth, tested under 4.1 (Intel) communicating with a FreeBSD box and a 3.3 (Intel) box. The only thing I would like to have is the notification window coming out on top of all other windows. -dirk --- ______________________________________________________________________ Dirk Olmes OBJECT FACTORY Gesellschaft fuer Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH Otto-Hahn Str. 18, 44227 Dortmund, Germany Telephon +49 (0) 231 975 137 0 Telefax +49 (0) 231 975 137 99 dirk@object-factory.com http://www.object-factory.com/ Hiroshima 45, Tschernobyl 86, Windows 95
From: Maurice van Steensel <m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Yet another stupido question Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:57:30 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Message-ID: <33790DFA.D7B@antrg.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry to ask this, but what do I do under NS with .tar files to make executables out of these? Downloaded gzip.tar recently; contains lots of text and source code but it beats me what to do with it I'm afraid...Thanks for your help. :-)Maurice
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Yet another stupido question Date: 13 May 1997 20:09:18 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5lahpe$cgm@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <33790DFA.D7B@antrg.azn.nl> Cc: m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl In <33790DFA.D7B@antrg.azn.nl> Maurice van Steensel wrote: > Sorry to ask this, > > but what do I do under NS with .tar files to make executables out of > these? Downloaded gzip.tar recently; contains lots of text and source > code but it beats me what to do with it I'm afraid...Thanks for your > help. > > :-)Maurice > it's possible that gzip.tar is source code only that requires compiling. if you have user only, you won't have the tools to do this. check the readme or the ftp site for a binary version. easiest and by my experince best, get Opener.app from ftp. peanuts, from where you are, it should be there. I think there's a faq on this, or something about how to unarchive the unarchiver. earlier versions on NS know about .Z but not .gz (or is it .z?) but it (the choice of which to use) is configurable in later versions (> 3.1 ?). you can deal with them (.tar) directly from the command line though, if that doesn't disgust you. see man tar. TAR(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual TAR(1) NAME tar - tape archiver SYNOPSIS tar [ key ] [ name ... ] DESCRIPTION Tar saves and restores multiple files on a single file (usu- ally a magnetic tape, but it can be any file). Tar's actions are controlled by the key argument. The key is a string of characters containing at most one function letter and possi- bly one or more function modifiers. Other arguments to tar are file or directory names specifying which files to dump or restore. In all cases, appearance of a directory name refers to the files and (recursively) subdirectories of that directory. The function portion of the key is specified by one of the following letters: r The named files are written on the end of the tape. The c function implies this. x The named files are extracted from the tape. If the named file matches a directory whose contents had been written onto the tape, this directory is (recursively) extracted. The owner, modification time, and mode are restored (if possible). If no file argument is given, the entire content of the tape is extracted. Note that if multiple entries specifying the same file are on the tape, the last one overwrites all earlier. t The names of the specified files are listed each time they occur on the tape. If no file argument is given, all of the names on the tape are listed. u The named files are added to the tape if either they are not already there or have been modified since last put on the tape. c Create a new tape; writing begins on the beginning of the tape instead of after the last file. This command implies r. The following characters may be used in addition to the letter which selects the function desired. o On output, tar normally places information speci- fying owner and modes of directories in the archive. Former versions of tar, when encounter- ing this information will give error message of the form "<name>/: cannot create". This modifier will suppress the directory informa- tion. p This modifier says to restore files to their ori- ginal modes, ignoring the present umask(2). Setuid and sticky information will also be restored to the super-user. 0, ..., 9 This modifier selects an alternate drive on which the tape is mounted. The default is drive 0 at 1600 bpi, which is normally /dev/rxt8. v Normally tar does its work silently. The v (ver- bose) option makes tar print the name of each file it treats preceded by the function letter. With the t function, the verbose option gives more information about the tape entries than just their names. w Tar prints the action to be taken followed by file name, then wait for user confirmation. If a word beginning with `y' is given, the action is done. Any other input means don't do it. f Tar uses the next argument as the name of the archive instead of /dev/rxt?. If the name of the file is `-', tar writes to standard output or reads from standard input, whichever is appropri- ate. Thus, tar can be used as the head or tail of a filter chain. Tar can also be used to move hierarchies with the command cd fromdir; tar cf - . | (cd todir; tar xf -) b Tar uses the next argument as the blocking factor for tape records. The default is 20 (the maximum). This option should only be used with raw magnetic tape archives (See f above). The block size is determined automatically when reading tapes (key letters `x' and `t'). l tells tar to complain if it cannot resolve all of the links to the files dumped. If this is not specified, no error messages are printed. m tells tar not to restore the modification times. The modification time will be the time of extrac- tion. h Force tar to follow symbolic links as if they were normal files or directories. Normally, tar does not follow symbolic links. B Forces input and output blocking to 20 blocks per record. This option was added so that tar can work across a communications channel where the blocking may not be maintained. C If a file name is preceded by -C, then tar will perform a chdir(2) to that file name. This allows multiple directories not related by a close common parent to be archived using short relative path names. For example, to archive files from /NextDeveloper/Headers and from /etc, one might use tar c -C /NextDeveloper Headers -C / etc Previous restrictions dealing with tar's inability to prop- erly handle blocked archives have been lifted. FILES /dev/rxt? /tmp/tar* SEE ALSO tar(5) DIAGNOSTICS Complaints about bad key characters and tape read/write errors. Complaints if enough memory is not available to hold the link tables. BUGS There is no way to ask for the n-th occurrence of a file. Tape errors are handled ungracefully. The u option can be slow. The current limit on file name length is 100 characters. There is no way selectively to follow symbolic links. When extracting tapes created with the r or u options, directory modification times may not be set correctly. ...this from OS 4.1 -- Rick Sanford Dental Records[R] dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/ We're moving! Soon we'll be at: www.dentalrecords.com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Command line eps to jpeg convertet Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:15:14 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970513201500.6364G-100000@kira> References: <33781BFB.1C4E@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Bruce J. Dolby" <B.Dolby@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> In-Reply-To: <33781BFB.1C4E@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/graphics/viewers/ToyViewer.2.5.NI.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/graphics/viewers/ToyViewer.2.5.NIHS.b.tar.gz This works very well for me at least.... TjL
From: Alex Hartley <alexhrt@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB Software Date: 13 May 1997 23:53:01 -0700 Organization: Alex Hartley and Associates Message-ID: <3379629D.3211@primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a NeXT Dimension cube. Looking for Wordperfect, Framemaker, sybase, and comparable software. Send email with prices. Alex
From: rainer@wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhöfer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 14 May 1997 10:02:36 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Just came across this on the Apple WWDC site an thought I should share the experience with you ... not that it is a nice one :( > OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.2 for Windows NT--at around U.S.$1,500, per developer > version OPENSTEP Enterprise Deployment starts at around U.S.$12,899 per > server pack OPENSTEP Developer for Mach--U.S. $5,000 per developer version > OPENSTEP User for Mach--at around U.S. $800 per seat Enterprise Object > Frameworks (EOF) 2.1 for Mach--U.S. $500 per seat The only environment to develop on, and they price it out of the market! Do they really believe I will buy NT for this? -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (finger rainer@cip.mathematik for public key ...)
From: penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Christopher Penrose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Emacs 4.12 for NeXTstep erasing highlighted text Date: 14 May 1997 23:19:15 +0900 Organization: Keio Daigaku Shonan-Fujisawa Message-ID: <x6k9l2t9uk.fsf@elvis.sfc.keio.ac.jp> Hello folks: I am running Emacs 4.12 successfully under Openstep 4.1 for mach. However, the developers have added a new "feature" to Emacs, a "feature" that was not present in Emacs 3.0 and earlier, which erases any highlighted text when carriage return is pressed. What is worse, Emacs undo cannot retrieve this information. Edit has this "feature" and this is one of the many reasons that I prefer Emacs. Edit also allows you to "undelete" text erased with the carriage return. Anyway, is there any way to disable this "feature"? Thank you Chris Penrose penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp
From: andre@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Andre Schaefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: miniSQL 2.0 and EOF 1.1 on Nextstep 3.3 ? Date: 14 May 1997 14:16:14 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5lchfe$htf$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Keywords: miniSQL, EOF, Nextstep Hello everybody, who knows, or has tried, if the miniSQL Adapter for the EOF 1.1 will work with the latest miniSQL Server by Hughes Software? I build an EOF Applikation for my thesis in university. I have until now used the msql 1.0.16 distribution, which worked but lacked a lot of features I needed. My University does not own an Oracle Server or a Sybase one (just INFORMIX), so msql seems to be the only affordable option. msql 2.0 adresses many of the experienced problems, such as indexing of tables and textfields with variable length. So I'd like to use it. How can I integrate it in the Applikation without too much restructuring? ANY help will be useful. Please answer also by email, if possible... Cheers, Andre' Schaefer
From: cmoore@cyberport.com (cmoore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gatekeeper/PPP help needed Date: 14 May 1997 12:53:10 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Message-ID: <5lccjm$919$1@macaw.cyberport.com> References: <5l5b5e$e7s$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <5l5b5e$e7s$1@macaw.cyberport.com>, cmoore@cyberport.com says... > > >I am having problems getting gatekeeper to make and hold a ppp connection. >this in NS 3.3 on Intel. Anyone with ANY clues would be gratefully appreciated.. thus far. PPP installed. gatekeeper installed foundation patch. new serial drivers off of objectware CD Gatekeeper dials, connects, brings ppp up, assigns remote and local addresses, makes the cool sound, and then the timer starts. but still, Omniweb will not load a home page or anything.. Mail app, doesnt see nntp server. Newswatcher doesnt see the server.. what the heck is wrong ? after a week of this i am thinking Windows95 is a work of Art. everything on this system works perfect ...EXCEPT i cannot make a PPP connection, ???? any clues, hints, tips etc I AM DESPERATE. a few more days and : For Sale NeXT Step User Motorola/Intel CD's
From: cmoore@cyberport.com (cmoore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gatekeeper/PPP help needed (Somebody Please Respond ) even a spam or a flame Date: 14 May 1997 12:57:38 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Message-ID: <5lccs2$919$2@macaw.cyberport.com> References: <5l5b5e$e7s$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <5lccjm$919$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <5lccjm$919$1@macaw.cyberport.com>, cmoore@cyberport.com says... Would somebody PLEASE offer any hint or tip, In article <5l5b5e$e7s$1@macaw.cyberport.com>, cmoore@cyberport.com says... >>I am having problems getting gatekeeper to make and hold a ppp connection. this in NS 3.3 on Intel. Anyone with ANY clues would be gratefully appreciated.. thus far. PPP installed. gatekeeper installed foundation patch. new serial drivers off of objectware CD Gatekeeper dials, connects, brings ppp up, assigns remote and local addresses, makes the cool sound, and then the timer starts. but still, Omniweb will not load a home page or anything.. Mail app, doesnt see nntp server. Newswatcher doesnt see the server.. what the heck is wrong ? after a week of this i am thinking Windows95 is a work of Art. everything on this system works perfect ...EXCEPT i cannot make a PPP ???? any clues, hints, tips etc I AM DESPERATE. a few more days and : For Sale NeXT Step User Motorola/Intel CD > > > > > >
From: hnalgae@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Kang Hyun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Best News Reader? Date: 14 May 1997 15:21:18 GMT Organization: Hayan Nalgae Software Message-ID: <5lcl9e$suq$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> References: <33704E06.1ECC@earthlink.net> You (Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net>) wrote in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on Wed, 07 May 1997 02:40:22 -0700: > I know this is a lame-o question, but I would like to know which NS > Newsreader is the best? I have NS 3.3 (Moto) installed on an ND Cube. > Which have the easiest navigation, add groups easily, can read in-line > graphics, etc.? Hi, I am the developer of HNNews, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP newsreader. HNNews is multi-tasking, online/offline newsreader, and is able to show MIME encoded inline graphics. I have plan to support MIME encoding, and a lot of features. If you want to know about HNNews, please visit: Hayan Nalgae Software. http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~hnalgae/ Thanks for reading this. --- Hayan Nalgae Software, NEXTSTEP Development. http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~hnalgae/ hnalgae@soback.kornet.nm.kr <Kang Hyun> Hayan Nalgae means White Wing in Korean. NeXT, Mime mail OK.
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 14 May 1997 16:16:33 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Rainer Frohnher writes > [NT developer pricing down, Mach pricing still very high] > The only environment to develop on, and they price it out of the market! > Do they really believe I will buy NT for this? You might want to try developing under OPENSTEP/NT before making a final judgment. It's not as bad as you think. And my experience is that writing for NT gives you the greatest portability; i.e., some code that runs on Mach still needs to be tweaked on NT, whereas NT-developed code almost always compiles clean on Mach. Now, as to the programmer's _user_ experience with the rest of the things surrounding the developer environment, I agree: give me OS/Mach anyday. And I do agree that the pricing differential is extreme. Seems to me that Apple is either trying to push people away from Mach, or they are trying to capture the value of the "total" OPENSTEP experience. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gatekeeper/PPP help needed (Somebody Please Respond ) even a spam or a flame Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:17:54 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970514091713.26103A-100000@kira> References: <5l5b5e$e7s$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <5lccjm$919$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <5lccs2$919$2@macaw.cyberport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: cmoore <cmoore@cyberport.com> In-Reply-To: <5lccs2$919$2@macaw.cyberport.com> Have you tried 'ifconfig -a', traceroute, ping to see if they give you any information? Have you set up a /etc/resolv.conf? TjL
From: "Stephen R. Anderson" <anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:07:41 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Linguistics, Yale University Message-ID: <3379B914.887@sapir.ling.yale.edu> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didn't notice any mention of "academic bundle" pricing in Apple's press release about OS 4.2. Does anyone know if this policy will continue for 4.2 (and any future pre-rhapsody versions)? --Steve Anderson
From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where the heck is Optimal Object? Date: 14 May 1997 20:38:20 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5ld7rs$l1@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bc5d49$4a3033c0$0c0c0c0c@odrade> <5l906o$sjm@epx.cis.umn.edu> In-Reply-To: <5l906o$sjm@epx.cis.umn.edu> Hello NeXT/Apple Community: I decided to tackle the project and put my 3 years of experience to work also provide an alternative to those that prefer not to deal with the adventure of ordering NeXTSTEP/Openstep through bookstores. You can order academic bundles through me , I have 3.3 Academic bundles in Stock for $319 and shipping, actually had to import them from Europe talk about jumping through hoops~! You must be academic and provide a photocopy of your student or faculty ID, we will have online ordering available shortly at www.blackholeinc.com , to check out work in progress http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ Feel free to email me at bhi1@ix.netcom.com Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 http://www.blackholeinc.com/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993. On 05/12/97, Doc O'Leary wrote: >On 10 May 1997 21:51:55 GMT, Tony Chow <everblue@ucla.edu> wrote: > >>I can't find them at www.optimal-object.com any more! Where the hell are >>they? How am I supposed to get the Academic Pack? > >This should be an FAQ by now. They are dead. Apple has taken over the >distribution of academic bundles. You should be able to order through >your campus computer store. > >-- >Copyright 1997 by Doc O'Leary. >Author of the wildly unsuccessful "DOS and Windows for People Who >Still Have a Clue" > -- Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 http://www.blackholeinc.com/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993.
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help : Soft-PC came without complete license Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: 14 May 1997 15:50:15 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5ldfj7$jh2@slip.net> Hi, I made what I thought was a terrific deal about 4 weeks ago, purchasing Soft-PC 3.0 for 18$ at a Pier 45 computer show. It was shrink wrapped and looked new. I didn't get around to installing it til last night when I discovered that I only had the license to half the product, and most importantly, not to Soft-PC itself (Ah, the license comes on two perforated pages where the paper with the license values peels off - and I only have one of the perforated pages.) Other than that the package is complete. It would be a shame for CD-ROM and the rest of the package to go to waste. Would some Soft-PC owner care to send set authorization / license numbers ? If those numbers work with this package send you twenty bucks. If it is really important to you I have the reciept and can share the other numbers. Thanks, Emmett San Francisco develop on, and they price it out of > the market! > Do they really believe I will buy NT for this? What amazes me is...that I still get amazed by next/apple's CONSTANT ability to make the most MORONIC marketing decisions of all time. It's just shocking that I haven't been numbed by the constant shocks... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 14 May 1997 21:31:46 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5ldb02$el6@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <3379B914.887@sapir.ling.yale.edu> "Stephen R. Anderson" <anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu> wrote: > I didn't notice any mention of "academic bundle" pricing in > Apple's press release about OS 4.2. Does anyone know if this > policy will continue for 4.2 (and any future pre-rhapsody > versions)? At least some of Apple's press releases about the new price for OPENSTEP Enterprise (for WinNT) said that "the prices of all other packages remain the same". So, I've seen nothing specifically mention the academic package, but I'd like to think they keep that at it's current price. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apps -- "Where are they now?" Date: 14 May 1997 23:58:40 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5ldjjg$d1$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5l7v7i$1ce$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5l7v7i$1ce$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> On 05/12/97, ii wrote: >Does anyone remember what happened to AppSoft's Image? > Concensus on this seems to be that it went the way of the zumbooruk. >Does anyone remember a PostIt-like app which allowed you to put yellow >stickers all over the screen? If so, where is it now? > A couple of people suggested RedMark. Thanks, however this isn't actually what I meant -- I really did mean an app which put little yellow windows all over the screen; I'm sure there was one..? Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: sonnymac@worldnet.att.net (william c mcdonald) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where can you buy the O.S.? Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 03:36:04 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <337a8247.256948@netnews.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a Gateway 2000 pentium system running W95.I read in last month's wired about the NeXT o.s. being state of the art and crash proof, I'm ready to take the plunge!I understand it works on most platforms but after searching the web, I found little info on purchasing the os.Any info will be appreciated. Thanks much, Bill Mcdonald
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 15 May 1997 03:30:55 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5le01f$7br$1@news.platinum.com> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> Cc: Greg_Anderson@afs.com In <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> it appeared that Gregory H. Anderson wrote: > Now, as to the programmer's _user_ experience with the rest of the things > surrounding the developer environment, I agree: give me OS/Mach anyday. > And I do agree that the pricing differential is extreme. Seems to me that > Apple is either trying to push people away from Mach, or they are trying > to capture the value of the "total" OPENSTEP experience. Not bad guesswork, but probably not complete... try these two... A.) Conspiracy Theory (I'll tie it to the Grassy Knoll next week...) Where Apple failed for 6 years to develop a modern successor to the MacOS -- at an out-of-pocket cost of nearly a billion dollars, and at an untold and uncountable cost in lost market and mindshare -- NeXT seems to have a technical victory in sight (well, it *might* be an on-coming train... <peer>... <peer>... nah, can't be...), after a mere 4 1/2 months since acquisition of Apple by NeXT. (The Blue Box demo didn't crash, and the Apple press commented about how impressive it was that the demos didn't crash!) The marketing victory, however, cannot come from NeXT, which was never good at that sort of thing, anyway. So, what's the marketing magic cooked up by Apple? A stubborn refusal to lower the price of OPENSTEP/MachOS until the Rhapsody thing ships to the public on the PowerPC. We could chalk that up to short-sightedness of Apple Sr. Management. Argh... It's idiotic to drive Apple developers to NT. Period. Letting them run OPENSTEP/MachOS on Intel for a few months would not cause any permanent damage, because they'll all come running back to the nice PowerMac hardware, sobbing with relief. (I myself cry nightly with quakes of joy at the thought of never again having to buy another Intel based PC.) However, driving them to develop on NT is just plain suicide. B.) The Real Strategy Oh... but there is a secret cunning plan (which cannot fail) at work here! Let's look closer! Apple knows that it's crucial 3rd party developers are not going to abandon them until they must, because they find windows so repulsive (and rightly so), and that they can deliver a Rhapsody pre-release on the PowerMac soon (within a few months.) Apple therefore cleverly decided to lower the price of the tools that are actually selling -- the developer tools for NT 7 WindoZe95 that are popular with some of the more adventurous fortune 100 companies. By lowering the price of these tools now, they can get the jump on boosting sales to the Fortune 500 and Global 2000 Enterprises, many of which want to develop for NT, but want better OO tools. Apple will then be able to follow OPENSTEP/NT in the door by offering a more scalable Enterprise OS (based on MachOS) which runs on a variety of PowerPC platforms -- but which takes, oh, say 20% of the administration cost to keep running. Apple has done almost everything else right this week, and this one is a tougher call. Real developers will join the EAP and get the Rhapsody Pre-Release Zero (aka OPENSTEP 4.2) developer tools for $2.5k anyhow. So I'm willing to think that this price differential is part of the Enterprise strategy, and not a sign of doom and gloom. It is certain that Rhapsody for PowerPC & Intel will be much, much cheaper than OPENSTEP for MachOS. And the developer tools will probably come down to a level similar to OPENSTEP Enterprise (for NT & Windoze95) which is a pretty darned good price ($1.5k) for the worlds best software development environment of all time. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where can you buy the O.S.? Date: 15 May 1997 04:38:32 GMT Organization: Front Range Internet, Inc. Message-ID: <5le408$krl$1@europa.frii.com> References: <337a8247.256948@netnews.worldnet.att.net> In-Reply-To: <337a8247.256948@netnews.worldnet.att.net> On 05/14/97, william c mcdonald wrote: >I have a Gateway 2000 pentium system running W95.I read in last >month's wired about the NeXT o.s. being state of the art and crash >proof, I'm ready to take the plunge!I understand it works on most >platforms but after searching the web, I found little info on >purchasing the os.Any info will be appreciated. > >Thanks much, >Bill Mcdonald > 1-800-TRY-NEXT -- Christian Kuhtz <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work) <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (home) Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ "Humbly speaking for myself only."
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: duplex printing bug Date: 15 May 1997 04:24:23 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5le35n$3la@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5kvvga$ae6$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3376153E.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> <distler-1105972210310001@slip-37-4.ots.utexas.edu> distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) wrote: > >ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/96.1-Fruehjahr/ > > > >hope it work > > Hmmm. . . . I'll try the modified ppd file out. But I am not optimistic. > > Looking at it, all I can see is that it makes duplex printing the default > instead of simplex printing. I already tried doing that, to no avail. No, it does much more than that. > Has anyone actually gotten this to work on a LaserJet 4Si? Yes. Works flawlessly. Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: duplex printing bug Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:17:19 +0200 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <337AB87F.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5kvvga$ae6$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3376153E.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> <distler-1105972210310001@slip-37-4.ots.utexas.edu> <5le35n$3la@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uli Zappe wrote: > > distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) wrote: > > >ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/96.1-Fruehjahr/ > > > > > >hope it work > > > > Hmmm. . . . I'll try the modified ppd file out. But I am not optimistic. > > > > Looking at it, all I can see is that it makes duplex printing the default > > instead of simplex printing. I already tried doing that, to no avail. > > No, it does much more than that. > > > Has anyone actually gotten this to work on a LaserJet 4Si? > > Yes. Works flawlessly. > Yes finally I have my HP LJ 5SIMX working with simplex/duplex due to NeXT's Printpanel. At my side the fault was quite simple and related to the principal handling of ppd files. I had introduced the Printer, connected via HP JetDirect IP Interface, by a flat printcap entry, just like on any other unix but in netinfo instead of /etc/printcap. So the NeXT includes the options from ppd but did not really expand it, as this is done by the finally printing host. (NeXT is assuming that this is a NeXT again.) I had just to replace the printcap entry by a reasonable Entry made by PrintManager.app. There one could chooce "HP JetDirect" as Communication (besided Parallel and Seriell). Now every NeXT Station printing to the Printer IP Interface really expands all information introduced by ppd file(s). Thanks to David Andrew Knight <david@onestep.co.uk> for very competent informations on ppd and new versions of the ppd files. Stefan ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 15 May 1997 10:12:55 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5lenj7$pfq$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> Cc: Greg_Anderson@afs.com In <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> Gregory H. Anderson wrote: > Rainer Frohnher writes > > [NT developer pricing down, Mach pricing still very high] > > The only environment to develop on, and they price it out of the market! > > Do they really believe I will buy NT for this? > Apple needs to be aware of the economies of increasing returns that operate in the technical sector, i.e. market share is everything. Increasing market share is the only means for survival. Which means that Apple needs to count revenue losses due to INSANELY LOW PRICES for OpenStep 4.2/Mach as capitalization costs. By "insanely low prices" I mean $299 for OpenStep 4.2/Mach User/Developer Commercial $99 for OpenStep 4.2/Mach User Commercial $99 for OpenStep 4.2/Mach User/Developer Academic bundle Generating EXCITEMENT is more important now than immediate revenues. And these prices would generate excitement. Because Rhapsody will soon make 4.2 obsolete with its additional integrated Macintosh technology, there will be substantial upgrade revenue once Rhapsody comes out. The larger number of users/developers that were seeded with cheap 4.2 will, I aver, generate more revenue than the foolish NeXT, Inc.ish prices we see now. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100, Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenXber@mhpXcc.edu <Delete the "X"s; done to stop junk e-mail> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~Xaltenber/ <Delete the "X"> =======================================================================
From: jeff@tiag.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5lenj7$pfq$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Control: cancel <5lenj7$pfq$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Date: 15 May 1997 13:39:45 GMT Organization: Great Works Internet Message-ID: <5lf3n1$h4h@noc1.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cancel
From: see@address.in.signature (Martin-Gilles Lavoie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 10:20:56 -0500 Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> In article <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com>, Greg_Anderson@afs.com wrote: > Rainer Frohnher writes > > [NT developer pricing down, Mach pricing still very high] > > The only environment to develop on, and they price it out of the market! > > Do they really believe I will buy NT for this? > > You might want to try developing under OPENSTEP/NT before making a final > judgment. It's not as bad as you think. And my experience is that writing > for NT gives you the greatest portability; i.e., some code that runs on > Mach still needs to be tweaked on NT, whereas NT-developed code almost > always compiles clean on Mach. And for a lot less money, you can get yourself a used NeXT computer w/ NeXTSTEP 3.2 installed, start developing, and then migrate to Rhapsody as it becomes available. You might actually find a used NeXT station w/ NeXTSTEP/Mach 4.x on it. If you're lucky enough to have gone to WWDC, then you'll have the software for free. -- Martin-Gilles Lavoie | "No! Try not. Do! or do not mouser@zercom.net | There is no try." www.zercom.net/~mouser/ | --Yoda on error handling
From: bryan@denebcorp.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTStep 3.3 & CAPer Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:14:14 -0500 Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet Service Provider Message-ID: <337B1A35.FAD@denebcorp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If anyone is using CAPer under NS3.3, I have two problems that I have been trying to resolve. 1. Mac workstations cannot drop items from the server onto the trash can. The Mac locks up and requires a reboot. 2. More importantly, files located on the CAPer server are not locked to other user when a different user already has the same file open. Any ideas for fixing these two problems would be greatly appreciated. Bryan Pearce bryan@denebcorp.com
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhöfer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 15 May 1997 15:45:29 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5lfb2p$hkv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) wrote: >In <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> it appeared that Gregory H. Anderson wrote: > >> Now, as to the programmer's _user_ experience with the rest of the things >> surrounding the developer environment, I agree: give me OS/Mach anyday. [snip] >Apple knows that it's crucial 3rd party developers are not going to abandon >them until they must, because they find windows so repulsive (and rightly >so), and that they can deliver a Rhapsody pre-release on the PowerMac soon >(within a few months.) > >Apple therefore cleverly decided to lower the price of the tools that are >actually selling -- the developer tools for NT 7 WindoZe95 that are popular >with some of the more adventurous fortune 100 companies. By lowering the >price of these tools now, they can get the jump on boosting sales to the >Fortune 500 and Global 2000 Enterprises, many of which want to develop for >NT, but want better OO tools. [snip] >Apple has done almost everything else right this week, and this one is a >tougher call. Real developers will join the EAP and get the Rhapsody >Pre-Release Zero (aka OPENSTEP 4.2) developer tools for $2.5k anyhow. So >willing to think that this price differential is part of the Enterprise >strategy, and not a sign of doom and gloom. > I still don't get it. Why suggest buying NT rather than their own product, OS/Mach4.2? Because most people already run NT? Rhapsody will resemble OS/Mach much more than NT (Unix layer & stuff), so why don't they help getting in touch with the flavour of what's coming? It's not the fact that they lowered NT pricing, what bugs me is the signal to use NT rather than OS/Mach. Frankly, they screw the developers in the NeXT community who - again - have to pay more to stay up to date. >It is certain that Rhapsody for PowerPC & Intel will be much, much cheaper >than OPENSTEP for MachOS. And the developer tools will probably come down >to a level similar to OPENSTEP Enterprise (for NT & Windoze95) which is a >pretty darned good price ($1.5k) for the worlds best software development >environment of all time. The once breathtaking superiority of the NeXT dev environment has somewhat vanished. True, is still the most elegant (IMHO). Apple has nothing to lose in PC-OS marketshare; why not shell out OS/Mach 4.2 for a mere $ 299,- with the option to upgrade to Rhapsody later? Stuff in a web server with proper admin (should be a breeze to write) and web authoring tools. A superior PC operating system, cheaper than NT. Now, *that* could bring some leap in market share. (On second thought, not so clever: Making the I*tel version too nice would hurt PPC sales ...) Is the NeXT folks responsible for PR? Now, that would explain things; a lot of people I know would have gone for NEXTSTEP, had it just been cheaper. -- ---------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (finger rainer@cip.mathematik for public key ...)
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhöfer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 15 May 1997 15:58:06 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5lfbqf$hkv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> see@address.in.signature (Martin-Gilles Lavoie) wrote: >In article <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com>, Greg_Anderson@afs.com wrote: > >> Rainer Frohnher writes >> > [NT developer pricing down, Mach pricing still very high] >> > The only environment to develop on, and they price it out of the market! >> > Do they really believe I will buy NT for this? >> >> You might want to try developing under OPENSTEP/NT before making a final >> judgment. It's not as bad as you think. And my experience is that writing >> for NT gives you the greatest portability; i.e., some code that runs on >> Mach still needs to be tweaked on NT, whereas NT-developed code almost >> always compiles clean on Mach. > >And for a lot less money, you can get yourself a used NeXT computer w/ >NeXTSTEP 3.2 installed, start developing, and then migrate to Rhapsody as >it becomes available. You might actually find a used NeXT station w/ I already own one :) (For four years now). I put it on the shelf because the performance downgrade from 3.3 to 4.0 made it virtually unusable. I'm writing this on a 486/120 VLB box, running OS4.0. Unfortunately, that was more a less a beta release with 4.1 being the bugfix - from what I heard. My student life will soon be over, so there'll be no more special academic bundle prices :( Since I cannot upgrade a student license, I *am* concerned about Apples pricing scheme. And, having been a fan for such a long time, I find the signals from Apple discouraging. >NeXTSTEP/Mach 4.x on it. If you're lucky enough to have gone to WWDC, >then you'll have the software for free. Nontrivial when you're located in Germany ... -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (finger rainer@cip.mathematik for public key ...)
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 & CAPer Date: 15 May 1997 14:49:49 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5lf7qd$n0h$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <337B1A35.FAD@denebcorp.com> Cc: bryan@denebcorp.com In <337B1A35.FAD@denebcorp.com> bryan@denebcorp.com wrote: > If anyone is using CAPer under NS3.3, I have two problems that I have > been trying to resolve. > > 1. Mac workstations cannot drop items from the server onto the trash > can. The Mac locks up and requires a reboot. > > 2. More importantly, files located on the CAPer server are not locked > to other user when a different user already has the same file open. > > Any ideas for fixing these two problems would be greatly appreciated. > 1. Most likely you are running the very old V2 of CAPer which had this problem, please upgrade to at least V6 as available on the CAPer homepage or the archives. The CAPer home is at http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html 2. The CAP binary in CAPer does not implement file locking, as the fcntl locking in NeXTSTEP is broken and the flock and lockf variants did not work either when I tried them the last time. (If someone at NeXT can help me with this.... maybe there is a nice way to handle things I am not aware of). CAPerV8 will hopefully implement its own 'as locked marked file' list kludge, however all CAPer releases up to the new V7beta can not handle file locking at all. BTW: Why don't you ask me directly :-)... -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Academic Pricing Has _NOT_ changed for 4.2 (was Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!!) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:55:29 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970515092352.14650A-100000@kira> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> Sorry for the xpost, but I don't know where this thread has spawned ---->FOLLOWUPS set to csn.misc<---- I called the number on http://product.info.apple.com/pr/press.releases/1997/q3/970513.pr.rel.openstep.html#OPENSTEP "The OPENSTEP family of products are available direct from Apple Computer, Inc. For sales information call 1-800-879-6398." (aka "try-next") I went through their little voicemail hoops for find out about the academic bundle only to get a message to call Object Technologies (which doesn't exist). So I called back and stayed "on the line for further information" (pressed #4) and talked with a woman who I told about the wrong 800# and then she put me over to the telemarketing folks. The woman I talked with there (whose name I did not get) said that I should contact my bookstore. When I informed her that my bookstore had never heard of NeXT or OpenStep, she said that it would all go through NACS corp (www.nacscorp.com). OpenStep 4.2 was officially released Tuesday, but she did not know how long it would take to get through to the academic sources. (It is not yet listed on NACS' web pages) She confirmed that the academic pricing has not changed, it is still $299 for user & dev. I called NACS-corp (1-800-622-7498 x2573 for inbound sales) and they said it will take "a few weeks" before it gets to them. She said that as far as she knew the pricing had not changed but (she also said) that doesn't mean much as it could change when it arrives. So there we have it folks, the pricing for OpenStep/Academic seems to have remained the same, but (for the overly cynical) it will be a few weeks before anyone can say for sure. TjL, your friendly neighborhood 800# dialing, horse's-mouth seeking, OpenStep likin' Usenet reader...
From: kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where does GateKeeper.app stores its preferences information? Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:30:07 GMT Organization: University of Stirling Message-ID: <970514153007.17978AAFCT.kjt@copper> References: <5knq6n$4ck@news.tuwien.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII : From: wolfgang@neptun.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Wolfgang Pusch) : Subject: Where does GateKeeper.app stores its preferences information? : Date: 6 May 1997 17:36:23 GMT : Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software : : Where does GateKeeper.app stores its preferences information? : : I have not found a configuration file for GateKeeper.app. They're in the defaults database. ".gate" files can be kept wherever you wish. Ken Turner <kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk>
From: dvit@ip.pt (Diogo Vitorino) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Just Got a NeXT "Cube" Date: 16 May 1997 00:24:05 GMT Organization: ILHA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <dvit-1605970127080001@pm-lx-1-03.net.ip.pt> References: <psybeast-ya02408000R1205970118290001@news.pond.com> In article <psybeast-ya02408000R1205970118290001@news.pond.com>, psybeast@pond.com (PsyBeast) wrote: > As of Friday, I now have a NeXT "Cube" running around my apartment, > ethernet that is. > > The only major problem at this stage of the game, is that I need a Clean > New OS install. > > The cube came with what appears to be all the basic manuals, and a blank > 256MB MO cartridge... and NOTHING else!!!! >..... I actually have more or less the same problem with a Turbo Color station. Please help!
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody port of NeXTMail Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:38:18 -0700 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <337B9E63.2358@earthlink.net> References: <337B490C.F31AFA20@excell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: daynem@excell.com Dayne Miller wrote: > > From what I read it sounds like NeXTMail has been or will be ported. > So from that can we assume that there's a good chance that Rhapsody Mail > will support HTML "Rich Text" (ala Netscape, etc.) natively? I sure hope so! NeXTMail on a MAc....too cool! STEVE K.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 & CAPer Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:57:14 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970515205631.29652B-100000@kira> References: <337B1A35.FAD@denebcorp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: bryan@denebcorp.com In-Reply-To: <337B1A35.FAD@denebcorp.com> A brand new version (bug fix that is) was just released, checkout http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html, or the /pub/next/new_arrivals folder on next-ftp.peak.org TjL
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv for Intel? Date: 16 May 1997 04:52:30 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <5lgp6e$evh@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> No. There was the original, an international version, and an unreleased version with a cool scripting language. There was an attempt at an Intel version as well and also a MacOS version but it never really got off the ground. A Windows 3.1 version did ship but was unsucessful in the marketplace. Your best bet is Quantrix by Lighthouse Design. Robert On 05/08/97, Zdzislaw H. "Stan" Lewantowicz wrote: >Was a version of Lotus Improv offered for Intel NeXTStep? If so, how can one >obtain a copy? -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv for Intel? Date: 16 May 1997 04:57:27 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <5lgpfn$fci@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> <5lgp6e$evh@fridge-nf0.shore.net> In-Reply-To: <5lgp6e$evh@fridge-nf0.shore.net> Oh yeah, trivia time... Here are the code names for all the Improv versions... Product Name Code Name ============ ========= Improv 2.0 for Windows Blue Marlin Improv 2.0 for MacOS Red Marlin Improv 2.0 for NEXTSTEP Black Marlin Improv 1.0 for NEXTSTEP BackBay Improv Scripting Language Oakum Robert -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: Dayne Miller <daynem@excell.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rhapsody port of NeXTMail Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 10:34:05 -0700 Organization: Excell Data Corporation Message-ID: <337B490C.F31AFA20@excell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From what I read it sounds like NeXTMail has been or will be ported. According to several sources, especially Stepwise (thanks Scott!) HTML is now a native data type. So from that can we assume that there's a good chance that Rhapsody Mail will support HTML "Rich Text" (ala Netscape, etc.) natively? -Dayne Miller daynem@excell.com -- ###
From: "Bruce J. Dolby" <B.Dolby@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for: tiff to gif / ps to gif Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:01:15 +0200 Organization: Alcatel SEL Message-ID: <337C063B.664E@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm looking for a command line converter that can convert either tiff or ps to gif format. Does anyone know where I might find such a converter? MegaThanks BJD
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From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody port of NeXTMail Date: 16 May 1997 02:05:22 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5lgfd2$37e$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <337B490C.F31AFA20@excell.com> In-Reply-To: <337B490C.F31AFA20@excell.com> On 05/15/97, Dayne Miller wrote: >From what I read it sounds like NeXTMail has been or will be ported. >According to several sources, especially Stepwise (thanks Scott!) HTML >is now a native data type. > >So from that can we assume that there's a good chance that Rhapsody Mail >will support HTML "Rich Text" (ala Netscape, etc.) natively? I sat down and had a very interesting lunch at WWDC with the project lead for the Advanced User Experience on Rhapsody and one of the topics that came up was that Mail.app would be shipped with Rhapsody. - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
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From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Command line eps to jpeg convertet Date: 16 May 1997 08:25:12 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5lh5l8$8c6$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <33781BFB.1C4E@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> In-Reply-To: <33781BFB.1C4E@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> On 05/13/97, "Bruce J. Dolby" wrote: >I'm looking for a command line converter that can convert eps >to jpeg or eps to gif. > Try Running-Start's eps2tiff converter followed by the imagetools conversion suite. See http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm/NEXTSTEP/WWW/ Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970516.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970509.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970502.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 16 May 1997 03:00:00 -0600 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Last-modified: 1997-Apr-03 FAQ-Last-modified: 1997-May-04 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> and also at <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: benh@hotmail.com (Future-NET) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <337b9608.3509762@bang-olufsen.dk> Control: cancel <337b9608.3509762@bang-olufsen.dk> Date: 16 May 1997 13:35:30 GMT Organization: Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Usenetters Sender: nobody@firewall.bang-olufsen.dk Message-ID: <Cancel.337b9608.3509762@bang-olufsen.dk> Death to Spam!
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BackSpace.app as Preferences module or command line version? Date: 16 May 1997 12:59:20 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5lhln8$oj2@hal.nexttoyou.de> Does anybody know where to find a version of BackSpace.app as Preferences module? I heard that this has been done, but I have no idea where to search or whom to ask. Another option I'd welcome would be a command line version of BackSpace. Making a BackSpace.daemon file that's just a softlink to the BackSpace executable unfortunately doesn't work. Any help appreciated. David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: netinfo and rhapsody Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:34:46 -0600 Organization: RR Message-ID: <337C7E96.7E6B@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is netinfo being ported?
From: kennel@nospam.lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel (Remove 'nospam' to reply)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 16 May 1997 20:43:01 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <slrn5nphmq.mnf.kennel@lyapunov.ucsd.edu> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <5le01f$7br$1@news.platinum.com> On 15 May 1997 03:30:55 GMT, Gary W. Longsine <gary-nospam-@screaming.org> wrote: :B.) The Real Strategy :Oh... but there is a secret cunning plan (which cannot fail) at work here! :Let's look closer! : :Apple knows that it's crucial 3rd party developers are not going to abandon :them until they must, because they find windows so repulsive (and rightly :so), and that they can deliver a Rhapsody pre-release on the PowerMac soon :(within a few months.) : :Apple therefore cleverly decided to lower the price of the tools that are :actually selling -- the developer tools for NT 7 WindoZe95 that are popular :with some of the more adventurous fortune 100 companies. By lowering the :price of these tools now, they can get the jump on boosting sales to the :Fortune 500 and Global 2000 Enterprises, many of which want to develop for :NT, but want better OO tools. That's not the problem. Lowering the price on Openstep/NT prior to Rhapsody is certainly a good idea. The problem is lowering the price on OS/NT and REFUSING to follow up with OS/Mach. What message is that sending? People are not so stupid to imagine that it's because demand for current OS/Mach is so fierce (the normal business reason to keep prices higher) and so they begin to wonder at the hidden meaning. The most obvious message is: "OS/Mach is only for our existing legacy customers who are locked into it and we can get away with extorting a high price." Which makes it seem like obsolete technology. And, combined with the fact that it's the basis for the future "advanced" Mac operating system gives this message: * OS/Mach is obsolete compared to Windows NT, but hell, the MacOS is even more obsolete so Apple really doesn't have a choice. That's a very bad message, considering it's what many people are prejudiced to believe already. Even though it's factually untrue, they think "NeXT. Started a long time ago. Supposed to be so great, but failed. Still trying to survive by slogging this 80's technology. Big Risk. Better stick with NT, because it's New and Modern and the future. Part of The Road Ahead." Even slight facts which reinforce prejudices are remembered much more than substantial contradictory ones. -- Matthew B. Kennel/Institute for Nonlinear Science, UCSD/ Don't blame me, I voted for Emperor Mollari. p
From: frsvnsvn@best.com (Kurt Werle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace.app as Preferences module or command line version? Date: 16 May 1997 11:16:53 -0700 Organization: private Message-ID: <5li8al$9f7@shellx.best.com> References: <5lhln8$oj2@hal.nexttoyou.de> In article <5lhln8$oj2@hal.nexttoyou.de>, David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> wrote: >Does anybody know where to find a version of BackSpace.app as Preferences >module? I heard that this has been done, but I have no idea where to search >or whom to ask. This will not work. Pref's does not load/execute it's modules until you select them. >Another option I'd welcome would be a command line version of BackSpace. To do what? /NextDeveloper/Demos/BackSpace.app/BackSpace would be the command... >Making a BackSpace.daemon file that's just a softlink to the BackSpace >executable unfortunately doesn't work. Huh - under what circumstances? Kurt
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From: chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TeX on NS3.3 Date: 17 May 1997 02:12:16 GMT Organization: Front Range Internet, Inc. Message-ID: <5lj460$fpq$1@europa.frii.com> Hi there: Has anyone out there tried to build TeX from the CTAN on NS3.3 lately and succeeded?.. Yes, I know that NS3.3 comes with a version of TeX, but that's not what I'm asking. Thanks. Regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work) <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (home) Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ "Humbly speaking for myself only."
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From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace.app as Preferences module or command line version? Date: 17 May 1997 11:13:01 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5lk3rt$niu@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <5li8al$9f7@shellx.best.com> In article <5li8al$9f7@shellx.best.com> frsvnsvn@best.com (Kurt Werle) writes: > In article <5lhln8$oj2@hal.nexttoyou.de>, > David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> wrote: > >Does anybody know where to find a version of BackSpace.app as Preferences > >module? I heard that this has been done, but I have no idea where to > >search or whom to ask. > > This will not work. Pref's does not load/execute it's modules until you > select them. Well, the original author told me the following: "It's definitely possible to write a Preferences version as several people have done it without too many changes to the code." He just does not know where to find it. > >Another option I'd welcome would be a command line version of BackSpace. > > To do what? /NextDeveloper/Demos/BackSpace.app/BackSpace would be the > command... O.k., I was unclear. I do not want to see an application icon *at all*. I consider a screen saver just too unimportant for seeing it running all the time on the lower left side (or the dock) of my screen. IMHO it should be completely unvisible except for the configuration. > >Making a BackSpace.daemon file that's just a softlink to the BackSpace > >executable unfortunately doesn't work. > > Huh - under what circumstances? Then again I have this nobigfunctionbuthangingaround icon somewhere... -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 17:11:13 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re: Rhapsody port of NeXTMail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <863906542.29697@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <337B490C.F31AFA20@excell.com> In article <337B490C.F31AFA20@excell.com>, daynem@excell.com wrote: > > From what I read it sounds like NeXTMail has been or will be ported. > According to several sources, especially Stepwise (thanks Scott!) HTML > is now a native data type. > > So from that can we assume that there's a good chance that Rhapsody Mail > will support HTML "Rich Text" (ala Netscape, etc.) natively? > > -Dayne Miller > daynem@excell.com > > -- > ### I would assume so since it will be using the new text object which will natively have this HTML capability. Not only that since GIF,TIFF,JPEG,PICT,and PNG will all be supported natively it should handle all these graphics formats with dispatch (won't have to route them thru Omnifilters). Maybe we will even get inline quicktime movies. I was thinking that once Rhapsody mail is ready Apple should put it on millions of CD's for free much like AOL does. This would be mainly targeted at Windows users as a trojan horse to get them to install the openstep runtimes for windows on their machines. The install of Mail would automatically install all the Openstep/NT DLL's on the unsuspecting windows users machines making them ready for any openstep apps. The first mail message they would get would be Steve Jobs telling them of the wonders of Openstep. He could then pitch that they buy a series of plug-ins for this new mail like inline quicktime support, more graphics filters and sound formats. Not only do we get these Windows users to buy into openstep we get everyone on a standardized mail app. hoops PS I hope they make an easy drag and drop GUI to add the little mail pictures -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: buckley4@mail.idt.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace.app as Preferences module or command line version? Date: 17 May 1997 23:44:25 GMT Organization: IDT Message-ID: <5llfsp$54b@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> References: <5li8al$9f7@shellx.best.com> <5lk3rt$niu@hal.nexttoyou.de> In-Reply-To: <5lk3rt$niu@hal.nexttoyou.de> On 05/17/97, David Andel wrote: >In article <5li8al$9f7@shellx.best.com> frsvnsvn@best.com (Kurt Werle) >writes: >> In article <5lhln8$oj2@hal.nexttoyou.de>, >> David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> wrote: >> >Does anybody know where to find a version of BackSpace.app as Preferences > >O.k., I was unclear. I do not want to see an application icon *at all*. I >consider a screen saver just too unimportant for seeing it running all the >time on the lower left side (or the dock) of my screen. IMHO it should be >completely unvisible except for the configuration. > Fiend.app, the dock extender, runs Backspace without a separate backspace icon. It's own icon is extremely useful as a gateway to as many piles of apps as you could want _and_ lets you hide all of _their_ app icons. (appologies to David Lambert, but I did change the app icon to something a little less harsh) -- _________________________________________ Paul Buckley 515 W 59th St., Apt. 22K New York, NY 10019 E-mail: buckley4@mail.idt.net Tel/Fax: 212-333-3382 _________________________________________
From: bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com (Brad Yearwood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 17 May 1997 18:04:31 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Message-ID: <5llkiv$lai@crl12.crl.com> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> <5lfb2p$hkv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> In article <5lfb2p$hkv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>, Rainer Frohnhöfer <rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote: > > I still don't get it. Why suggest buying NT rather than their own product, >OS/Mach4.2? Because most people already run NT? Rhapsody will resemble >OS/Mach much more than NT (Unix layer & stuff), so why don't they help >getting in touch with the flavour of what's coming? It's not the fact that >they lowered NT pricing, what bugs me is the signal to use NT rather than >OS/Mach. My theory: Few people (I mean potential volume customers) _today_ who haven't already decided to buy a truckload PowerMacs, are going to buy a truckload of PowerMacs _today_ because of the promise of Rhapsody. If a volume customer needs something today, Wintel will be the overwhelming (if regrettable) choice. Resistance is futile: you will be assimilated into the hive-mind, at least, we hope, until something demonstrably better and sufficiently app-complete comes along and saves us from the impending New Dark Age. Apple can gain some access to this market by removing the runtime cost barrier for OPENSTEP Enterprise. Applications thus motivated to be written to OPENSTEP, should then be easily portable to Rhapsody, and to Apple hardware should Apple continue to manufacture. This may help to solve Apple's most acute problem: the lack of applications. By providing an attractive application environment, Apple may motivate the writing (or salvaging, in the case of developers who were ground up and spit out by the NeXT experience and managed to resolve their livelihood by some means other than by leaping from bridges) of significant and attractive applications. Developers will be able to sell or deploy these immediately onto both newly bought and existing Wintel seats. Apple loses little by giving these seats away, because these are seats where they otherwise would have had zero participation. Each new application (whether shrinkwrap or "mission critical" [Jobs-ese for "I found a rube to buy a Rolls Royce to drive to the grocery store"]), is another paving stone in the only visible road out of Apple's current crater. Once Rhapsody is ready, and if an attractively complete set of applications can be assembled, Apple's OS, and maybe their hardware, will look more competitively attractive. They may thus improve sales both to individuals and to truckload markets. Should the market continue to insist upon smoking x86 hardware crack, but be receptive to Rhapsody as an NT/W95 alternative, Apple may still have a future as an OS and app-environment company. This is the point at which one would reduce the price on x86 Mach Rhapsody - when you know that you can no longer sell hardware, and have accepted the necessity of recycling masses of otherwise-excess employees into phone support positions. Immense support resources are required to make an OS work in the x86/PC hardware minefield. OPENSTEP for Mach still has pages and pages listing which hardware is supported, and it still has a note saying that you need a SCSI CD-ROM to install (which means that it cannot be initially installed on 99.52% of the otherwise-qualified PCs out there without spending a good bit on extra hardware, then still running a significant risk of failure). Even if Apple were handing out today's CDs free on the street corner, how many people would successfully install and run, how much would the support calls cost, and how many people would be permanently scared away by the experience? That said, $5K for Developer (if that's still true) is still too high by a factor of at least 5, and hopefully 10. Should Rhapsody and apps get to a competitive state, the market may once again realize the benefits of competition in the processor/box realm - perhaps not so much a price benefit as a very badly needed quality, stability, and ergonomic benefit. Should the market not accept Rhapsody as an OS, it may still accept Enterprise as an app framework. The bad news is that the runtime will have to cost something, or the up-front cost for developers would have to be immense (which can't happen, because however good OPENSTEP is, it's only better than other frameworks, not miraculously or permanently better). The good news is that MS still gets stuck with most of the expensive OS/hardware support headache. At this point, Sun, whose brain may have been permanently damaged by a recent massive caffeine overdose (a little caffeine is OK, but is it sustenance?), will be having even greater difficulty selling desktop hardware. Maybe they will be able to sell big iron (and that disgusting massive groupthink tumor which they call an OS) and NCs to people who are nostalgic for big iron and 3270s, but who want spiffier graphics. The 0.03-0.5 performance factor from running bytecode is perhaps an amusing way to get x86 performance back down to Sparc levels for a while, but is it really acceptable for general applications? Brad Yearwood bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com Cotati, CA
From: cmoore@cyberport.com (cmoore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Gatekeeper/PPP help needed Date: 11 May 1997 20:45:33 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Message-ID: <5l5b5e$e7s$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I am having problems getting gatekeeper to make and hold a ppp connection. this in NS 3.3 on Intel. my Terminal program demo of TIP TOP will dial my ISP and connect just fine. so i know the modem and com port work. the mouse works. on the other com port. But Gatekeeper will dial, connect. spew forth lots of messages in the debug window and log right off. total time 20 seconds. I have been thru the install twice and think i did it all correctly..<g> another related question..about serial port drivers There are "serial port drivers ver 3.0 installed from the CD. i have the newer drivers, ver 3.3, when i install them they seem to configure properly, are recognized at boot in the messages. but the mouse wont work. if i install the original serial driver. it overwrites irq4 and causes a conflict...could this be the PPP problem? if so how do i get the mouse to work with the new serial drivers. the config program wont even exit properly unless the 3.0 driver is loaded.
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 18 May 1997 02:02:39 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5llnvv$7i0$1@news.xmission.com> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> <5lfb2p$hkv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5llkiv$lai@crl12.crl.com> bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com (Brad Yearwood) wrote: > OPENSTEP for Mach [...] > still has a note saying that you need a SCSI CD-ROM to > install Just a quick note: I installed OPENSTEP on my Intel box using an EIDE CDROM. SCSI is _not_ a requirement. It is just a little nicer. (My config is actually a bit strange since my CD is EIDE and the hard drive is SCSI, but I know people who did successful installs with only EIDE hardware). -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 18 May 1997 03:45:56 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5llu1k$cfl$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> <5lfb2p$hkv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5llkiv$lai@crl12.crl.com> In-Reply-To: <5llkiv$lai@crl12.crl.com> On 05/17/97, Brad Yearwood wrote: >OPENSTEP for Mach still has pages and pages listing which hardware is >supported, and it still has a note saying that you need a SCSI CD-ROM to >install (which means that it cannot be initially installed on 99.52% of >the otherwise-qualified PCs out there without spending a good bit on extra >hardware, then still running a significant risk of failure). Just FYI, the note is out of date... you can install from most ATAPI EIDE CD-ROMs now. >Even if Apple were handing out today's CDs free on the street corner, how many >people would successfully install and run, how much would the support calls >cost, and how many people would be permanently scared away by the experience? >That said, $5K for Developer (if that's still true) is still too high by a >factor of at least 5, and hopefully 10. Apple also announced that they would not be supporting the Prelude to Rhapsody package they handed out at WWDC - their support infrastructure for OpenStep (based on NeXT's support group initialy) does not have the capacity. >Should Rhapsody and apps get to a competitive state, the market may once again >realize the benefits of competition in the processor/box realm - perhaps >not so much a price benefit as a very badly needed quality, stability, and >ergonomic benefit. Actually, it looks like PPC may lead the price/performance curve for the next couple of years too (in addition to systems from Apple havign the other benefits you mention). We saw a demo of a 233 mhz mid-range G3 (next generation PPC) chip running circles around a 266 mhz Pentium II (i.e. they were doing image manipulation in PhotoShop and the G3 system completed the scripted tasks in 1/2 the time. >Brad Yearwood bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com >Cotati, CA -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
From: fealty@obeisance Subject: figurative Organization: df;'hlt6-= Message-ID: <wd0X1HqY8GA.215@moosecat.mooselogic.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 02:09:00 -0700 x-no-archive:yes For who use pictures to communicate: please click on http://www.webcom.com/h49tld20/photo/prolab.html
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <8856863323226@digifix.com> Date: 18 May 1997 03:57:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <16065863928021@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: colin@anderson.vt.com (Colin Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTstep (Black M68k) Software? Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 15:16:49 -0600 Organization: Valley Tech Corporation Customer Message-ID: <colin-1805971516500001@anderson.vt.com> What commercial software is available for Black NeXTstations? I've heard about Word Perfect being available at one time... does anyone know if Corel (the current owners of WP) still sells WP for the NeXT? Colin Anderson colin@anderson.vt.com
From: remove.this.jchan.and.this@remove.this.apk.net (Jerome Chan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 12:43:33 -0400 Organization: APK Net, Ltd. Message-ID: <remove.this.jchan.and.this-1805971243340001@as1-26.apk.net> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> <5lfb2p$hkv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> I would like to see all versions of Openstep sell for $150 or less. :) Too bad that's not going to happen. --- The Evil Tofu (Only Human)
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Best News Reader? Date: 18 May 1997 20:26:20 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <5lnolc$51g@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <33704E06.1ECC@earthlink.net> <5krfet$qlm$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> <5krh6v$n3v$1@news.digifix.com> <5l7v0d$1a7$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5l7v0d$1a7$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> NewsFlash is the best I've seen yet but needs a lot of work. There is a new version in the works but I think it will be quite some time before it is released. Robert -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX on NS3.3 Date: 18 May 1997 17:08:11 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <5lnd1r$rdt@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <5lj460$fpq$1@europa.frii.com> On 17 May 1997 02:12:16 GMT, chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> wrote: > >Hi there: > >Has anyone out there tried to build TeX from the CTAN on NS3.3 lately and >succeeded?.. Yes, I know that NS3.3 comes with a version of TeX, but that's >not what I'm asking. `TeX from CTAN' is a little bit vague ;-). The current version of teTeX (0.4, based on web2c 6.1) comes with NEXTSTEP binaries and compilation instructions (see teTeX FAQ, Q22). The current web2c (7.0) also compiles with NEXTSTEP, at least if you have installed GNU sed and GNU make. The upcoming teTeX 0.9 will also support NEXTSTEP out of the box. For more information about TeX on NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP you might try my stepTeX page, http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX. Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | | flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | | PGP Key fingerprint = 23 8F B3 38 A3 39 A6 01 5B 99 91 D6 F2 AC CD C7 |
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From: colin@anderson.vt.com (Colin Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Manuals, Books? Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 15:14:40 -0600 Organization: Valley Tech Corporation Customer Message-ID: <colin-1805971514400001@anderson.vt.com> Hi, I'm yet another Mac user that bought a secondhand (manual-less) NeXTstation (Mono, non-turbo). While I have been able to install a few shareware apps onto this machine, I would like to learn how to do more with it. What books are/were available for the NeXTstation? What kinds of manuals came with the NeXTstation and where could I order them? Thanks, Colin Anderson colin@anderson.vt.com
From: jbf_see_sig@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTstep (Black M68k) Software? Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 20:37:22 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_sig-ya023580001805972037220001@news.tiac.net> References: <colin-1805971516500001@anderson.vt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <colin-1805971516500001@anderson.vt.com>, colin@anderson.vt.com (Colin Anderson) wrote: > What commercial software is available for Black NeXTstations? I've heard > about Word Perfect being available at one time... does anyone know if > Corel (the current owners of WP) still sells WP for the NeXT? FLAME SUIT ON I'm not going to boot my NeXT to check fine points, and I never have enough time to really check out the features on all the NeXT apps. But, from a long time Mac-NeXT user's viewpoint ... WP is pretty clunky at best. Lighthouse has a reasonable facsimile of the complete Microsoft suite of Mac apps. They work, they read and write Microsoft formats (with minor glitches, and maybe two releases behind), and the price is right (about $100 academic). How you qualify is your problem; most remaining NeXT owners are either in the "mission critical" or "academic" categories. The fare has just been too high for pure hobbyists. OpenWrite <=> Word EquationBuilder <=> MathType addon to Word (I think this is in package now) ParaSheet <=> Excel (don't think it handles linked spreadsheets) Concurrence <=> PowerPoint (if you really need it) TaskMaster <=> MacProject But wait, there's more ... VarioData <=> any old flatfile database Quantrix <=> Lotus Improv revisited (3D spreadsheet) Diagram <=> MacDraw (but with rubberbanding added) WetPaint <=> Canvas 3 Lighthouse also offers an obsolescent Frame, quite servicable but pricey. Mesa (from the UK) is another Excel substitute. Then there's the freely licensed OmniWeb, which doesn't crash like Navigator. With it you run OmniPDF to replace the Adobe reader. And NexT has ported Apache, which does a fine job if you want to run a Web site. Stone has DataPhile, a classy flatfile database, Create (another drawing program), and 3D-Reality (a Renderman front end, hard to learn). The obvious gap is Photoshop. Tiffany is the pricey replacement, and I don't like the design, but have to admit it seems powerful. Fortunately, there are lots of cheap Mac apps that do what I need, so I don't have either of them. Although NeXT fans love their bundled Mail.app, it strikes me as inferior to the free Eudora for Mac, while I have yet to see a newsreader that approaches the NewsWatcher variants in convenience or speed. NeXT apps in these areas seem to suffer from an all-in-one-window syndrome. Dialup Internet connectivity became an issue as NeXT got out of the consumer market. NeXT PPP, GateKeeper and PopOver do the job, but are tricky to set up properly. FLAME SUIT OFF Lots of interesting features in these apps. Wish I had more time to play with them. Hope many of them make it to the broader Mac market. But you shouldn't limit yourself to commercial apps. The share/freeware apps are equally, or perhaps even more, interesting. And they usually come with source on the NeXT. Get the Peanuts CDROM set. Barney (delete that _see_sig to email me)
From: Siu Hung <hhchiang@sfu.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: mp2 player for NeXT? Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 14:46:34 -0700 Organization: Simon Fraser University Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970518144334.23743A-100000@fraser> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all: I've dled a mp2 player for NeXT...however, after I've typed maplay_next XYZ.mp2 there was really some audio streams...but...it only played for like 2 sec..then stop for like 30 secs...then played 2 sec again...then stop for another 30 secs... So...can anyone tell me how come it will act like that? Is it because of the software problem or the CPU can't decode the mp2 that fast? So...if it's the SW problem...can anyone suggest me a good mp2 player? If it's the HW problem...can anyone tell me on how to check the hardware (CPU, RAM...) for NeXT? I forgot what to type... Thanx all for reading! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Name : Siu Hung http://www.in2nett.com/daniel Phone # : hhchiang@sfu.ca http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/2079 Habit : Nothing particular "Wonder if you ever see me and I Occupation: CMPT joint BUS wonder if you know I'm there My Dream : To have a good If you looked in my eyes would dream you see what's inside Would you even care" -Selena DOY ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com (Brad Yearwood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 18 May 1997 19:08:35 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Message-ID: <5locn3$gr8@crl5.crl.com> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> <5lfb2p$hkv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5llkiv$lai@crl12.crl.com> In article <5llkiv$lai@crl12.crl.com>, Brad Yearwood <bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com> wrote: > >OPENSTEP for Mach still has pages and pages listing which hardware is >supported, and it still has a note saying that you need a SCSI CD-ROM to >install ... Of course, I made the extremely stupid mistake of reading at least part of the manual before attempting the installation. If I'd either monkey- paneled the process as usual, or read through a bunch of NeXTAnswers, I would've discovered that EIDE/ATAPI CD-ROMs are indeed supported for install, despite the contrary statement in one part of the documentation. Thank you to a couple of people who pointed this out. My configuration failed with the CD-ROM on the second interface (using NeXT's primary/secondary driver), but seems to work OK if I attach the CD-ROM drive as the slave drive on the primary interface. It is happily installing now. NeXT has apparently made decent progress at a more realistic driver support base since a couple of years ago, when I gave up fighting with cranky hardware and cranky drivers on 3.2. Brad Yearwood bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com Cotati, CA
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTstep (Black M68k) Software? Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 22:23:30 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <337FE3D0.5A25@earthlink.net> References: <colin-1805971516500001@anderson.vt.com> <jbf_see_sig-ya023580001805972037220001@news.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James B. Frazer wrote: > FLAME SUIT ON > Although NeXT fans love their bundled Mail.app, it strikes me as >inferior to the free Eudora for Mac... > FLAME SUIT OFF You're kidding right? I can't wait to get Mail.app on my Mac with Rhapsody! I wouldn't touch Eudora with a ten foot pole! There's also an incredible animation package called ANIMO that runs on NeXTSTEP. There is no equivalent of it on any other platform. STEVE K.
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace.app as Preferences module or command line version? Date: 18 May 1997 14:56:36 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5ln5b4$1i@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <5llfsp$54b@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> In article <5llfsp$54b@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> buckley4@mail.idt.net writes: > On 05/17/97, David Andel wrote: > >In article <5li8al$9f7@shellx.best.com> frsvnsvn@best.com (Kurt Werle) > >writes: > >> In article <5lhln8$oj2@hal.nexttoyou.de>, > >> David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> wrote: > >> >Does anybody know where to find a version of BackSpace.app as Preferences > > > >O.k., I was unclear. I do not want to see an application icon *at all*. I > >consider a screen saver just too unimportant for seeing it running all the > >time on the lower left side (or the dock) of my screen. IMHO it should be > >completely unvisible except for the configuration. > > > > Fiend.app, the dock extender, runs Backspace without a separate backspace > icon. It's own icon is extremely useful as a gateway to as many piles of > apps as you could want _and_ lets you hide all of _their_ app icons. > (appologies to David Lambert, but I did change the app icon to something a > little less harsh) Well thanks, yes, I know. Although Fiend.app is very cool (I even like the icon...), it is an overkill for my needs. The original dock offers just enough place for the apps I need most of the time. The only thing disturbing me is the fact that I need to start a full application for having my screen protected from burning in (yes I know the unix tools darkening the screen but that's no elegant solution). IMHO a preferences module would be ideal because Preferences.app is running here all the time. David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody port of NeXTMail Date: 19 May 1997 06:30:44 GMT Organization: Front Range Internet, Inc. Message-ID: <5los2k$cf0$1@europa.frii.com> References: <337B490C.F31AFA20@excell.com> <863906542.29697@dejanews.com> In-Reply-To: <863906542.29697@dejanews.com> Hmm, now that'd be excellent marketing.. I have fairly sincere doubts that Apple/NeXT won't do this. The two worst marketeers have joined forces and I don't see anything indicating any kind of change in their miserable marketing strategies. But, we can all dream, of course. Cheers, Chris On 05/17/97, hoops@cbc.net wrote: [..] >I was thinking that once Rhapsody mail is ready Apple should put it on >millions of CD's for free much like AOL does. This would be mainly >targeted at Windows users as a trojan horse to get them to install the >openstep runtimes for windows on their machines. The install of Mail >would automatically install all the Openstep/NT DLL's on the unsuspecting >windows users machines making them ready for any openstep apps. The >first mail message they would get would be Steve Jobs telling them of the >wonders of Openstep. He could then pitch that they buy a series of >plug-ins for this new mail like inline quicktime support, more graphics >filters and sound formats. -- Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> "Humbly speaking for myself only."
From: chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody port of NeXTMail Date: 19 May 1997 06:23:53 GMT Organization: Front Range Internet, Inc. Message-ID: <5lorlp$cdq$1@europa.frii.com> References: <337B490C.F31AFA20@excell.com> <863906542.29697@dejanews.com> In-Reply-To: <863906542.29697@dejanews.com> Hmm, now that'd be excellent marketing.. I have fairly sincere doubts that Apple/NeXT won't do this. The two worst marketeers have joined forces and I don't see anything indicating any kind of change in their miserable marketing strategies. On 05/17/97, hoops@cbc.net wrote: [..] >I was thinking that once Rhapsody mail is ready Apple should put it on >millions of CD's for free much like AOL does. This would be mainly >targeted at Windows users as a trojan horse to get them to install the >openstep runtimes for windows on their machines. The install of Mail >would automatically install all the Openstep/NT DLL's on the unsuspecting >windows users machines making them ready for any openstep apps. The >first mail message they would get would be Steve Jobs telling them of the >wonders of Openstep. He could then pitch that they buy a series of >plug-ins for this new mail like inline quicktime support, more graphics >filters and sound formats. -- Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> "Humbly speaking for myself only."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Manuals, Books? References: <colin-1805971514400001@anderson.vt.com> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <337ffaca.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 19 May 97 07:01:30 GMT In article <colin-1805971514400001@anderson.vt.com>, Colin Anderson <colin@anderson.vt.com> wrote: >Hi, I'm yet another Mac user that bought a secondhand (manual-less) >NeXTstation (Mono, non-turbo). While I have been able to install a few >shareware apps onto this machine, I would like to learn how to do more >with it. What books are/were available for the NeXTstation? What kinds >of manuals came with the NeXTstation and where could I order them? > >Thanks, >Colin Anderson >colin@anderson.vt.com NeXT themselves published a variety of manuals in rapid succession that I got free the first time (with my machine) & then paid for :-( (different versions, terminating with the new format ones they dished out with the developer kits that came with the NeXTWorld Expo in May of 1993. Then the whole issue was farmed out to Addison Wesley NeXTSTEP Network and System Administration ISBN 0-201-63254-3 NeXTSTEP Programming Interface Summary ISBN 0-201-63253-5 NeXTSTEP Development Tools & Techniques ISBN 0-201-63249-7 NeXTSTEP User Interface Guidelines ISBN 0-201-63250-0 NeXTSTEP Operating System Software ISBN 0-201-63252-7 the whole lot costing around US$125 (Can$200). These books provide most of the documentation (except they seemed to forget the user manual -- I still use the one from 93, and the DSP never was properly documented). Then there are two really good books that are a must for the serious developer getting started: NeXTSTEP Programming, Garfinkel & Mahoney ISBN 3-540-97884-4 (Springer Verlag 1993, New York, NY) comes with diskette NeXTSTEP Programming, Nghiem ISBN 0-13-605916-3 (Prentice Hall 1993) there was another book -- The NeXT Bible, by Doug Clapp (Brady books 1990) ISBN 0-13-620725-1 -- but I did not find it very useful. Hope this helps. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
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From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 04:54:33 GMT Organization: Netvigator Message-ID: <5lpiim$u25@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? MS Office 97 only costs US$45! Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center
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From: Chuck Brant <hsicdb@harmonic.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sqsh for Next Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 08:08:16 -0500 Organization: Harmonic Systems Incorporated Message-ID: <338050C0.AABE9684@harmonic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has any one every gotten Sqsh to compile under 3.3 on mach. I'v tried to compile 1.4 with sybase libs from 4.9.2 and have had no luck. If any one has suggestions ot the binary that wouls be great. thanks. Does any one know if there ate CT-libs for the next box or only the db-libs? thanks chuck.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace.app as Preferences module or command line version? Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 07:39:47 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970519072616.10693I-100000@kira> References: <5li8al$9f7@shellx.best.com> <5lk3rt$niu@hal.nexttoyou.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5lk3rt$niu@hal.nexttoyou.de> On 17 May 1997, David Andel wrote: > In article <5li8al$9f7@shellx.best.com> frsvnsvn@best.com (Kurt Werle) > writes: > > In article <5lhln8$oj2@hal.nexttoyou.de>, > > David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> wrote: > > >Does anybody know where to find a version of BackSpace.app as Preferences > > >module? I heard that this has been done, but I have no idea where to > > >search or whom to ask. > > > > This will not work. Pref's does not load/execute it's modules until you > > select them. > > Well, the original author told me the following: > > "It's definitely possible to write a Preferences version as several people > have done it without too many changes to the code." > > He just does not know where to find it. I had this at one point but can't find it either (for m68k only). You are both right... it is possible AND it only works if you unhide Preferences (you might have to make the Backspace preference module the first one) > > >Another option I'd welcome would be a command line version of BackSpace. > > > > To do what? /NextDeveloper/Demos/BackSpace.app/BackSpace would be the > > command... > > O.k., I was unclear. I do not want to see an application icon *at all*. I If you are willing to do it by hand (ie a commandline version, then try this) get ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/unix/evs.1.0.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/unix/ShellPanel.2.0.NIHS.bs.tar.gz (which you should have anyways ;-) #!/bin/sh # dim screen to 0... you might have to make sure you have write permission # to do this... evs brightness 0 # Pop up a panel that waits for you to hit return Alert -t "DIM" "Press ENTER to restore screen to previous brightness" "Restore brightness" # once you have hit return, bring the brightness up gradually # you could just do # evs brightness 1 # but I think it is better to make it a little slower... # call me eccentric... for i in .1 .2 .3 .4 .5 .6 .7 .8 .9 1 do evs brightness $i > /dev/null done exit 0 # end script Save that as an ascii file called 'dim' then do 'chmod 755 dim' then move 'dim' somewhere in your $PATH, type 'rehash' and then type 'dim' to dim the screen and hit return to bring it back I use this as my screensaver because it requires no password yet will not un-dim the screen if I bump my desk (as BackSpace will if you do not have a password set) TjL
From: chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody port of NeXTMail Date: 19 May 1997 15:28:59 GMT Organization: Front Range Internet, Inc. Message-ID: <5lprjr$s3c$1@europa.frii.com> References: <337B490C.F31AFA20@excell.com> <863906542.29697@dejanews.com> In-Reply-To: <863906542.29697@dejanews.com> Hmm, now that'd be excellent marketing.. I have fairly sincere doubts that Apple/NeXT won't do this. The two worst marketeers have joined forces and I don't see anything indicating any kind of change in their miserable marketing strategies. But, we can all dream, of course. Cheers, Chris On 05/17/97, hoops@cbc.net wrote: [..] >I was thinking that once Rhapsody mail is ready Apple should put it on >millions of CD's for free much like AOL does. This would be mainly >targeted at Windows users as a trojan horse to get them to install the >openstep runtimes for windows on their machines. The install of Mail >would automatically install all the Openstep/NT DLL's on the unsuspecting >windows users machines making them ready for any openstep apps. The >first mail message they would get would be Steve Jobs telling them of the >wonders of Openstep. He could then pitch that they buy a series of >plug-ins for this new mail like inline quicktime support, more graphics >filters and sound formats. -- Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> "Humbly speaking for myself only."
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for: tiff to gif / ps to gif Date: 19 May 1997 16:28:05 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5lpv2l$mbi$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <337C063B.664E@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> In-Reply-To: <337C063B.664E@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> On 05/16/97, "Bruce J. Dolby" wrote: >I'm looking for a command line converter that can convert >either tiff or ps to gif format. >Does anyone know where I might find such a converter? > There are a number of options, depending on what exactly you want to do, cf my web pages at: http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm/NEXTSTEP/WWW/ Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTstep (Black M68k) Software? Date: 19 May 1997 16:56:53 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5lq0ol$moa$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <colin-1805971516500001@anderson.vt.com> <jbf_see_sig-ya023580001805972037220001@news.tiac.net> In-Reply-To: <jbf_see_sig-ya023580001805972037220001@news.tiac.net> On 05/19/97, James B. Frazer wrote: To be brutal, at the moment I'd ignore Lighthouse. They have been an outstanding member of the community, and it pains me to write this, however they do seem to be messing around too much now. >OpenWrite <=> Word > Try WriteUp instead, >ParaSheet <=> Excel (don't think it handles linked spreadsheets) > Try Mesa instead, >Lighthouse also offers an obsolescent Frame, quite servicable but pricey. >Mesa (from the UK) is another Excel substitute. > I hope Adobe picks up on this, however in the meantime also try PasteUp (although note that it is really intended for a different purpose, namely lage layout, rather than technical documentation. Both PasteUp and Mesa will be ported to Rhapsody ASAP, so you will have an upgrade path. >The obvious gap is Photoshop. Tiffany is the pricey replacement, and I >don't like the design, but have to admit it seems powerful. > A number of graphics types who use both have said they find TIFFAny more powerful. I was able to do a job for a local bureau using TIFFAny that they couldn't get anyone in six of their offices round the country to do using PhotoShop. Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTstep (Black M68k) Software? Date: 19 May 1997 16:43:30 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5lpvvi$mik$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <colin-1805971516500001@anderson.vt.com> In-Reply-To: <colin-1805971516500001@anderson.vt.com> On 05/18/97, Colin Anderson wrote: >What commercial software is available for Black NeXTstations? I've heard >about Word Perfect being available at one time... does anyone know if >Corel (the current owners of WP) still sells WP for the NeXT? > IMHO your best options for WP on NEXTSTEP are: If you want a good app with a lot of features, WriteUp from AFS <info@afs.com> otherwise for a "cheap and cheerful" yet still also elegant and very useful app try CedarWord http://www.cedar.co.uk/ For other tasks: Spreadsheets: may I humbly recommend our own product, Mesa: http://www.plsys.co.uk/products/Mesa/ Most of the others are available as demos from the archives, including: Bitmap editing: TIFFAny -- excellent, rivals (some say exceeds) PhotoShop Vector drawing: Create -- first app ported to Rhapsody What else do you need? Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
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From: BillLee@cleaf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTstep (Black M68k) Software? Date: 19 May 1997 21:19:56 GMT Message-ID: <5lqg5s$q02@news0-alterdial.uu.net> References: <colin-1805971516500001@anderson.vt.com> <5lpvvi$mik$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> O.k., here's an app I haven't seen anyone speak to yet: AutoCad Are there any AutoCad-like apps for the NeXT out there? Thanks Bill Lee
From: bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com (Brad Yearwood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Prelude to Rhap.: WebObjects install problem Date: 19 May 1997 21:09:49 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Message-ID: <5lr86d$lg3@crl3.crl.com> I was able to install 4.2 OPENSTEP and Developer OK, but seem to be having problems with WebObjects. When I try to start WebObjectsBuilder, it quits immediately, leaving the following on the console (edited a bit for line length): dyld: /NextDeveloper/Apps/WebObjectsBuilder.app/WebObjectsBuilder can't open library: /NextLibrary/Frameworks/EOAccess.framework/Versions/B/EOAccess (No such file or directory, errno = 2) There is no sign of EOAccess.framework/ . Is this part of EOF? Is something missing from the way I installed, or was WebObjects mis-packaged? Brad Yearwood bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com (do what it says) Cotati, CA
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From: chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Faxing with USR Courier on NS3.3? Date: 20 May 1997 15:45:56 GMT Organization: Front Range Internet, Inc. Message-ID: <5lsgvk$dqh$1@europa.frii.com> Hello there: I've been trying to get my USR Courier to send faxes from NEXTSTEP, and I can't get it to work. The two fax modems will establish a connection and then just simply hang up after a few seconds. Currently, I'm using the JollyFax Fax Service Class 2.0 drivers. Does anyone know how to work this work? Thanks very much in advance! Best regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> "Humbly speaking for myself only."
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From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace.app as Preferences module or command line version? Date: 20 May 1997 17:55:35 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5lsoin$5e1@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970519072616.10693I-100000@kira> In article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970519072616.10693I-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: [...] > I had this at one point but can't find it either (for m68k only). It's interesting to see how software disappears sometime... There are several apps I'd like to find again - but no chance. > You are both right... it is possible AND it only works if you unhide > Preferences (you might have to make the Backspace preference module the > first one) So indeed it was not the ideal solution. > If you are willing to do it by hand (ie a commandline version, then try > this) [...] > I use this as my screensaver because it requires no password yet will not > un-dim the screen if I bump my desk (as BackSpace will if you do not have > a password set) But isn't the result a screensaver which darkens the screen completely? I'm asking this because in an article from a Swiss NEXTSTEP user group magazine once was explained very detailed that it has some negative effect to the lifetime of a monitor if the screensaver just blackens the screen. And I'd also miss my "Digital Clock" BackSpace module... David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: "jennifer" <jmask@mindspring.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Please help--hangs at boot Date: 21 May 1997 02:04:41 GMT Organization: home Message-ID: <01bc658b$c93e63e0$9cf845cf@default> I have a NeXT Cube running NS 3.3, well, kind of running it. The problem is that it used to run fine,but now I cant boot anymore. At bootup it seems to be doing fine at first, but it always hangs at the same place. Here is what it says right before it stops: starting early daemons: syslogd starting RPC and network services: portmap netinfo lookupd ntpd. <date> <time> primary ntpd[107]: upd/ntp: service unknown, using default 123 mounting remote filesystems <date> <time> primary kern_loader: kern_loader: link failed <date> <time> primary kern_loader: kern_loader: link failed <date> <time> primary kern_loader: kern_loader: server mididriver wont link <date> <time> primary kern_loader: kern_loader: server mididriver wont link then the cursor just sits on the next line and it hangs. If you need more of the bootup message I can copy more for you but the first part looks like it always has. Can anyone tell me what it is trying to do or what is making it hang? To make matters worse, I don't have a boot disk because there are no drives in my cube, and it is an original 030 so it wont boot from the external CD-ROM I added, as far as I know, even if I did have a copy of NS which I dont. Is there any way to bypass the section that causes it to hang so I can get in and fix the problem? I have been powering down from the lock-up by hitting the right alt and numlock and powering off. Are there any tricks that might let me in? Any help would be dearly appreciated. I really don't have any idea where to go from here and I hate to see the cube just sitting there. Thanks in advance. Jennifer Mask
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to record and save on black with NS 3.3 Date: 20 May 1997 20:57:00 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5ltrqc$f8d@slip.net> Hi, I can record and play back sound bites. But how do I save what I've recorded? Thanks, Emmett
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace.app as Preferences module or command line version? Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 21:15:55 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970520211123.11204D-100000@kira> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970519072616.10693I-100000@kira> <5lsoin$5e1@hal.nexttoyou.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5lsoin$5e1@hal.nexttoyou.de> > > I use this as my screensaver because it requires no password yet will not > > un-dim the screen if I bump my desk (as BackSpace will if you do not have > > a password set) > > But isn't the result a screensaver which darkens the screen completely? I'm > asking this because in an article from a Swiss NEXTSTEP user group magazine > once was explained very detailed that it has some negative effect to the > lifetime of a monitor if the screensaver just blackens the screen. Yes.... much like the 'black' setting in Backspace I would guess... I don't know what type of monitor they were referring to, I've heard this said before, and wondered what the alternative was.... Something makes me want to say they were referring to color monitors (which could be turned off) I've been using this script with my mono slab for a year with no noticeable impact.... could be logner term or under different usage than mine would cause problems.... I'd like to read that article sometime (assuming, in typical Ameri-centric way, that it is written in English)... > And I'd also miss my "Digital Clock" BackSpace module... I'd love a backspace module that shows the time but not the seconds.... So far haven't found any TjL
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: yuwaraj@ecf.toronto.edu (Murugathas Yuwaraj) Subject: PPD file for HPLJ4? Summary: Looking for PPD files in the net Sender: news@ecf.toronto.edu (News Administrator) Message-ID: <EAI1zu.Jot@ecf.toronto.edu> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 21:50:18 GMT Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility Greetings everyone! Could someone kindly point me to a site that hosts PPD files for Next OS. I'm particularly looking for HP LaserJet4 files. I looked at the Adobe site. But it seems to have PPD files only for Mac and Windows. Are any of these PPD files compatible with the ones for Next OS(v.3.0)? Thanks. -Thas (thas@ibme.utoronto.ca)
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From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Duplex printing bug (one mo' time) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 22:54:47 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <distler-2005972254480001@slip-128-17.ots.utexas.edu> In article <3376153E.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>, Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> wrote: >> . . . there is a bug in NS 3.3 which prevents >> printing to an HP LaserJet 4Si-MX in duplex mode. . . . > >Try this: > >ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/96.1-Fruehjahr/ > >hope it work And uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote: >> Has anyone actually gotten this to work on a LaserJet 4Si? > >Yes. Works flawlessly. Well, it didn't work for me. More accurately, it worked *once* (after rebooting the machine), but all the previous and subsequent print jobs have come out single-sided, as before. After much mucking around, I have run out of ideas. Is there a PPD file specifically for the 4Si/MX ? (The ones at the above URL are for the 4plus.) Or is there a small animal I am supposed to sacrifice to get this to work? Jacques Distler
From: wendling@next.univ-rennes1.fr (Fabrice Wendling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SECOND HD ON NEXTSTEP3.3 Date: 21 May 1997 08:48:20 GMT Organization: Universite de Rennes 1, France Message-ID: <5lucsk$a3i$1@news.univ-rennes1.fr> Keywords: NEXTSTEP3.3, HD Hello, We installed a second HD on a NextStep 3.3 computer (Intel P. Pro, 64 Mo RAM, 2 x 2 Go HD). It seems that everything works ok for reading/writing the second disk (rsd1a). However, each time a user logs in, the following message is displayed : ' Hard disk 2 is damaged repair initialise ignore ? ' We tried several fsck on /dev/rsd1a but unfortunately, this does not correct the problem. Does anybody already have this type of problem ? If yes, how can it be solved ? Thank you for responses.
From: Keith Jacob <kmjacob@127.0.0.1> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:16:41 +2910 Organization: The University of Adelaide Message-ID: <34813AC1.7A2B@127.0.0.1> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <5le01f$7br$1@news.platinum.com> <slrn5nphmq.mnf.kennel@lyapunov.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt Kennel wrote, regarding the price differential between OS/Mach and OS/NT dev tools: > That's not the problem. Lowering the price on Openstep/NT prior to > Rhapsody is certainly a good idea. > The problem is lowering the price on OS/NT and REFUSING to follow up > with OS/Mach. What message is that sending? People are not so stupid to > imagine that it's because demand for current OS/Mach is so fierce > (the normal business reason to keep prices higher) and so they begin to > wonder at the hidden meaning. > The most obvious message is: "OS/Mach is only for our existing legacy > customers who are locked into it and we can get away with extorting > a high price." Which makes it seem like obsolete technology. Apple has "effectively" stated that development on OS/NT and OS/Mach will be supported by the Yellow Box libraries: write now to OS, and tweak later on the Yellow Box. By encouraging a very early adoption of OS/Mach development, Apple risks losing support for the imperative PPC-Rhapsody based development (why change to PPC-Rhapsody rather than upgrade to x86-Rhapsody if you're already developing on x86-OS/Mach?). Clearly, though, Apple is saying, "Develop on OS/NT now if you want to get a head start." Opinions in c.s.n.* suggest that most of us cannot wait to develop on PPC-Rhapsody, and are prepared to move _from_ x86 to do this. Tell Apple that PPC-Rhapsody will be your development platform of choice (all of you!), and they may well lower the OS/Mach price. I hope so, if the choice of PPC is a general one (meaning Apple does not need to be worried). There probably is a "real need" to get OS/Mach-Rhapsody development happening soon. [Your other well made points may also help the cause!] Keith
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From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Duplex printing bug (one mo' time) Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:50:18 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <864208218.12395.0.nnrp-1.c30b1c09@news.demon.co.uk> References: <distler-2005972254480001@slip-128-17.ots.utexas.edu> In article <distler-2005972254480001@slip-128-17.ots.utexas.edu> distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) writes: > In article <3376153E.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>, Stefan Ried > <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> wrote: > > >> . . . there is a bug in NS 3.3 which prevents > >> printing to an HP LaserJet 4Si-MX in duplex mode. . . . > > > > Well, it didn't work for me. More accurately, it worked *once* (after > rebooting the machine), but all the previous and subsequent print jobs > have come out single-sided, as before. > > After much mucking around, I have run out of ideas. Is there a PPD file > specifically for the 4Si/MX ? (The ones at the above URL are for the > 4plus.) > Or is there a small animal I am supposed to sacrifice to get this to work? > > Jacques Distler Hi, It works fine, but then as we wrote the duplexing PPD, we would say that :-) I am trying to come up with the definitive document describing the actual problem that we overcome, installation of the PPD and what problems can occur in various configurations, ie network printers, printers on non-NeXT hosts etc. Email me direct to work through the problem. I will post to 'annouce' when I have a document ready along with web sites for the free (duplex fix only) and commercial versions of the PPD (faster copies, paper size aliasing, watermarks, collation sequence etc). --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc | UK phone: 01702 426400 | Vendors of NS/OS 351 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | MCCAs, Hardware Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | Apps, Networks Essex | | ISDN, Training SS7 2BT | Email: david@onestep.co.uk | Maintenance England | (NeXTMail/MIME ok) | and Support
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From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SECOND HD ON NEXTSTEP3.3 Date: 21 May 1997 12:24:14 GMT Organization: GMD-FOKUS Message-ID: <5luphe$1j7@stern.fokus.gmd.de> References: <5lucsk$a3i$1@news.univ-rennes1.fr> Fabrice Wendling writes > Hello, > > We installed a second HD on a NextStep 3.3 computer > (Intel P. Pro, 64 Mo RAM, 2 x 2 Go HD). > > It seems that everything works ok for reading/writing the second disk > (rsd1a). > > However, each time a user logs in, the following message is displayed : > > ' > Hard disk 2 is damaged > > repair initialise ignore ? > ' > You have to edit '/etc/fstab' manually, then reboot. It should read somehow like: /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd1a /LocalUser 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 Robert -- --- - .-. -- -- --- / \ ---- Robert Fischer .-. / \ --- .-. __o .-. @ / \ / \ / \ _`\<,_ / \ GMD-Fokus / \ / \ / \ (*)/ (*) / `-------------- / `---' `-' `-----------'
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to record and save on black with NS 3.3 Date: 21 May 1997 12:58:12 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5lurh4$2ng$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5ltrqc$f8d@slip.net> Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5ltrqc$f8d@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > Hi, > > I can record and play back sound bites. But > how do I save what I've recorded? > see the man pages for 'sndplay' and 'sndrecord' or look on the archives for audio tools, ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next is a good place to start from. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Jim Gagnon <jimg@abacus.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:10:00 -0700 Organization: Abacus Concepts, Inc. Message-ID: <33833A77.7E46@abacus.com> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> <5lfb2p$hkv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5llkiv$lai@crl12.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brad Yearwood wrote: > Should the market continue to insist upon smoking x86 hardware crack, but be > receptive to Rhapsody as an NT/W95 alternative, Apple may still have a future > as an OS and app-environment company. This is the point at which one would > reduce the price on x86 Mach Rhapsody - when you know that you can no longer > sell hardware, and have accepted the necessity of recycling masses of > otherwise-excess employees into phone support positions. Immense support > resources are required to make an OS work in the x86/PC hardware minefield. Apple did state at WWDC that their revenue model for Rhapsody on Intel is aimed at making a profit. More than that, they did not say. There are two markets that Apple has in captivity and will be able to keep there with Rhapsody: current Mac owners and the Education folk. Current Mac people will find Rhapsody a natural upgrade from System 8, and with the anticipated performance increases (an easy 2x), most people will eventually upgrade. The Education folk have always loved Apple, and now that Apple is delivering the first mass market UNIX, their hold on education will become even more solid. > Even if Apple were handing out today's CDs free on the street corner, how many > people would successfully install and run, how much would the support calls > cost, and how many people would be permanently scared away by the experience? > That said, $5K for Developer (if that's still true) is still too high by a > factor of at least 5, and hopefully 10. You should see Rhapsody developer support at the same pricing of current Mac developer support: < $1K/year. > Should the market not accept Rhapsody as an OS, it may still accept Enterprise > as an app framework. The bad news is that the runtime will have to cost > something, or the up-front cost for developers would have to be immense (which > can't happen, because however good OPENSTEP is, it's only better than other > frameworks, not miraculously or permanently better). The good news is that > MS still gets stuck with most of the expensive OS/hardware support headache. Apple announced that client runtimes for the Frameworks will be free, even on Intel and 32 bit Windows. Apparently, the stickler was Adobe and its licensing of Postscript.
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace.app as Preferences module or command line version? Date: 21 May 1997 19:16:48 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5lvhn0$8h5@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970520211123.11204D-100000@kira> In article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970520211123.11204D-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: [...] > > But isn't the result a screensaver which darkens the screen completely? I'm > > I'm asking this because in an article from a Swiss NEXTSTEP user group > > magazin once was explained very detailed that it has some negative effect > > to the lifetime of a monitor if the screensaver just blackens the screen. > > Yes.... much like the 'black' setting in Backspace I would guess... > > I don't know what type of monitor they were referring to, I've heard this > said before, and wondered what the alternative was.... The alternative to black? Any activity on the monitor like fishes swimming around, toasters flying around (well, not in the NeXTWorld anymore), a digital clock... > Something makes me want to say they were referring to color monitors > (which could be turned off) Nope, this is valid for all kind of monitors having tubes. > I've been using this script with my mono slab for a year with no > noticeable impact.... could be logner term or under different usage than > mine would cause problems.... Just wait and see (or don't see). > I'd like to read that article sometime (assuming, in typical Ameri-centric > way, that it is written in English)... It is unfortunately not written in the Ameri-centric language :-) but in German. Too complicated to translate on the fly... The original author of the article was felix@nice.ch. But he just wrote me that he's very busy at the moment... > > And I'd also miss my "Digital Clock" BackSpace module... > > I'd love a backspace module that shows the time but not the seconds.... There is some sort of screen saver or at least a tool with this functionality as a side effect available, what does this. I'm quite sure that you (as the master of lost software) know what I mean. But why in the world do you discriminate seconds? David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Repost: Testers wanted: cdwrite-2.0 ported to NS/OS Date: 21 May 1997 21:15:04 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5lvoko$hp2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Somehow this post never made it to DejaNews and maybe other servers, so I suspect my newsfeed malfunctioned and I report it again. If you have seen it before, just ignore :)... ---- * 19. May 1997 I wrote in comp.sys.next.software: Hello from Area51! With much help of Markus Stoll and Hannse E. Stoeffler, who did the port for the cdwrite-1.5 version I have now cdwrite-2.0, a command line tool to write CDR, ready and running. cdwrite is used to record data or audio Compact Discs on an Orange Book CD-R recorder. This version will only write single session, Red/Yellow Book compatible discs. These discs are suitable for direct mass production by CD manufac- turers, as well as direct use in regular players. If you want to help me test it on various hardware setups, just send me a mail. You'll need either a Philips CDD-52x, a Kodak 522, a Yamaha CDR100/102 or a HP 4020i CD Recorder (maybe the SureStore will work too...) attached to a machine running NS/OS. Be however prepared to get an unfinished work. During working on this thing it completely ate my boot disk, due to a typo I made in the source. This bug is now fixed, but I cannot say anything about potential others. So keep this in mind if you want to help me test it. I will be quite busy in the next days, so please don't be upset if I'll answer your request a bit late. Since cdwrite was released under the GPL the full source will be made available as soon as the tests have concluded. Again thanks to Markus Stoll and Hannse E. Stoeffler who are doing the 'AerePerennius' CD writing software for NeXTSTEP/OpenStep which features a real GUI and much more advanced features. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: "Eric R. Balch" <ebalch@wrightstrat.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP! Need Mathematica 2.0 Disk Image(s) Date: 21 May 1997 22:45:50 GMT Organization: Wright Strategies Message-ID: <01bc6637$fd8c5c40$1293d4cc@grayslab.wrightstrat> Cache-Post-Path: optional.cts.com!unknown@204.212.147.18 HELP! I recently purchased a copy (shrink rapped) of Mathematica Version 2.0. I went to install it today and it seems like disk 1 is bad. It gets to like 10% and then Installer comes up with the message "Errors during Install" or whatever is says. These disks have been sealed in the package for quite some time so who knows what happened =;-) Anyway, I would love it if someone could email me the packages for both Disks so I can get this installed and put the issue to rest. If you do decide to just send them w/out a warning email first, please send them to: erbalch@adnc.com. This is my NeXTMail account. Thanks in advance! Eric R. Balch
From: "Greg Shaw" <gshaw@zeta.org.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NXFax 1.04g and OS/Mach 4.x Date: 21 May 1997 23:22:11 GMT Organization: Decisionware Message-ID: <01bc663c$b3304fd0$114f6fcb@decisionware> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just had a thought. Has anyone upgrade from NSFIP 3.x where they were happily running NXFax to OS/Mach 4.x? Does NXFax still work under 4.x? Is it required or has the way of driving fax modems changed? I know that NXFax is becoming unsupported software so does anyone know what still works? Indeed, I would be interested to hear of any upgrade experiences of what worked under 3.3 but required patches, adjustments or disposal under 4.x. Thanks in advance, Greg Shaw
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From: js@cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Repost: Testers wanted: cdwrite-2.0 ported to NS/OS Date: 22 May 1997 01:46:55 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5m08if$4ds$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <5lvoko$hp2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5lvoko$hp2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>, Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.NO_SPAM.net> wrote: > >With much help of Markus Stoll and Hannse E. Stoeffler, who did the port for >the cdwrite-1.5 version I have now cdwrite-2.0, a command line tool to write >CDR, ready and running. > >If you want to help me test it on various hardware setups, just send me a >mail. You'll need either a Philips CDD-52x, a Kodak 522, a Yamaha CDR100/102 >or a HP 4020i CD Recorder (maybe the SureStore will work too...) attached to >a machine running NS/OS. Why do you try to port cdwrite - it's dead !!!!! Cdrecord is alife and it's much better structured. Cdrecord currently runs on SunOS/Solaris and Linux. a Guy at HP will port it to HP/UX in the near future. To port it, you only have to add a SCSI transport layer for Next Step. Cdrecord-1.3 is out for a while, cdrecord-1.4 will be out in two or three days. cdrecord supports Philips CDD-52x, Yamaha CDR-10x, HP 2040, Philips CDD-2600 HP 6020i, Sony CDU-924, Ricoh RO-1420 Plasmon RF-4100, and many compatible drives Cdrecord will sopport more drives (e.g. Yamaha CDR-400) in the near future. Contrary to cdwrite drive support is totally separated from OS support. Cdrecord supports all drives in single and multi-session. Cdrecord os located on: ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix/cdrecord Joerg P.S. If you are interested in a cdwrite mailing list, send a mail to cdwrite-request@pixar.com with the word subscribe in the body. The cdwrite mailing list is for the discussion of problems on mkisofs, cdwrite and cdrecord. -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 jes@fokus.gmd.de (work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTstep (Black M68k) Software? Date: 22 May 1997 02:12:01 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <5m0a1h$s0r@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <colin-1805971516500001@anderson.vt.com> <jbf_see_sig-ya023580001805972037220001@news.tiac.net> <5lq0ol$moa$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Cc: malcolm@plsys.co.uk In <5lq0ol$moa$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> mmalcolm crawford wrote: > >OpenWrite <=> Word > > > Try WriteUp instead, One thing that OpenWrite had as an option was the great equation editor Equation Builder. Who owns the rights to that now? Lighthouse was selling it but do they own the source? I sure hope that this gets ported to Rhapsody for both its Postscript and TeX abilities. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
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From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DFG/ Digital Recordings still around?? Date: 21 May 1997 16:17:38 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5lv772$f2q$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hey guys, Does anyone know if Digital Recordings is still around??? I am interested in their product.. but can't find a webpage or updates anywhere!=) Thanks Godwin
From: sam@mail.a3j.com.tw (Sam Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.networking,comp.sys.next.software,tw.bbs.comp.hardware,tw.bbs.comp.hardware.systems,tw.bbs.comp.language,tw.bbs.comp.shareware Subject: Re: ´M§äGAL½s¿è³nÅé Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 08:19:22 GMT Organization: DCI HiNet Message-ID: <338400c8.19644185@netnews.hinet.net> References: <01bc651a$04e67b20$30d827ca@pentium> On 20 May 1997 12:26:09 GMT, "ching" <ching154@ms2.hinet.net> wrote: >¤£¦n·N«ä,¥i§_½Ð¦U¦ìºô¤ÍÀ°¦£,²{¦b¤A¯Å¹q¸£¸ËתºÃD¥Ø¥X¨Ó¤F, >¨ä²Ä¤@ÃD¬O§Q¥ÎGAL22V10 IC¨Ó¼gLED±ÛÂà, >¥i§_¦³¤Hª¾¹Dþ¸Ì¥i§ä¨ìGAL½s¿è³nÅé, > >¸U¤À·PÁÂ! > AMD has free-ware can download.program name is PALASM4
From: gsupport@mttam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenGraph/OpenStep Gamma Number 3 CD Ships Date: 22 May 1997 11:29:40 GMT Organization: VVI Data Control Specialists Message-ID: <5m1an4$3ie$1@news2.digex.net> Originator: gsupport@ PRESS RELEASE: OpenGraph/OpenStep Gamma Number 3 CD Ships VVI Data Control Specialists (VVI-DCS) 311 Adams Ave.; State College, PA 16803 USA 888-DCS-OPEN ; 814-234-9613 gsupport@mttam.com State College, PA USA, 22 May 1997: Showing its continued commitment to the OpenStep/Rhapsody marketplace, VVI-DCS ships third gamma version of OpenGraph to major OpenStep customers worldwide, including OpenStep customers in financial service, manufacturing, pharmaceutical and biotech industries with combined assets of billions of dollars. Join those premier OpenStep customers in the OpenGraph Gamma Program and receive: 1. Proven OpenGraph technology used now by the largest OpenStep customers to monitor billions of dollars worth of products. 2. No-fee technical support via e-mail, no-fee use of the OpenGraph gamma version during the gamma program, and no entrance fee (its free). 3. Free commercial copies of the GraphBuilder** application for ALL computers in participant's company, and one copy of OpenGraph-Developer** and OpenGraph-User*** sent to participants at the end of the gamma program. To take advantage of this offer contact VVI-DCS at gsupport@mttam.com. _________________________________ PREMIER PRESS RELEASE: State College, PA, 20 January 1997: VVI-DCS announced an expansion of its OpenGraph on OpenStep gamma program. If your business is interested in gamma testing OpenGraph please contact VVI-DCS at gsupport@mttam.com. "We've been working on the OpenGraph/OpenStep port for about a year now." said John Brilhart, Chief Technical Officer at VVI-DCS. "Our customers are reporting complex data sets from global real-time data feeds up to 500 events per second. That type of data reporting requires reliable and optimized report software. The gamma program is an important final part of our total quality control of the OpenGraph port." John adds, "The improvements and new features accompanying that port ensures our commanding lead in the high-end data reporting markets. With OpenStep and OpenGraph we provide compelling and unique solutions which have market advantages for our customers. For that reason we've always been fully committed to OpenStep on all platforms and have been working with NeXT and Sun for quite a while. We expect to apply the same level of commitment to the Apple version of OpenStep when it becomes available." About VVI-DCS: VVI-DCS, founded in 1989, builds custom OpenStep based data report and acquisition systems for the financial service, manufacturing, pharmaceutical and biotech industries and is the leading supplier of high-end data report software for the OpenStep marketplace. About OpenGraph: OpenGraph is a framework of Objective-C and C++ objects for reporting data in graph and textual formats and consists of a graph building application and pre-built objects. OpenGraph accepts real-time feeds from any source and serves as a graphing front-end for real-time financial analysis, transaction, production and inventory analysis, database systems, and instrumentation. OpenGraph is fully object-oriented and is well suited to systems which require reliability, exacting specifications and performance. _________________________________ A non-disclosure agreement is required for participation in the gamma program. ** no-license-fee commercial use license. ***no-license-fee and royalty-free commercial use license. (C) Copyright 1997 VVimaging, Inc. (VVI-DCS); All rights reserved. OpenGraph, GraphBuilder, VVI Data Control Specialists, VVI-DCS, and VVimaging are trademarks of VVimaging, Inc. (VVI-DCS). NeXT, NEXTSTEP and OpenStep are trademarks of NeXT Software, Inc. All other trademarks and service marks belong to their respective owners.
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Repost: Testers wanted: cdwrite-2.0 ported to NS/OS Date: 22 May 1997 12:10:02 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5m1d2q$307$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5lvoko$hp2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5m08if$4ds$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Cc: js@cs.tu-berlin.de In <5m08if$4ds$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Joerg Schilling wrote: > In article <5lvoko$hp2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>, > Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.NO_SPAM.net> wrote: > > > >With much help of Markus Stoll and Hannse E. Stoeffler, who did the port for > >the cdwrite-1.5 version I have now cdwrite-2.0, a command line tool to write > >CDR, ready and running. > > > >If you want to help me test it on various hardware setups, just send me a > >mail. You'll need either a Philips CDD-52x, a Kodak 522, a Yamaha CDR100/102 > >or a HP 4020i CD Recorder (maybe the SureStore will work too...) attached to > >a machine running NS/OS. > > Why do you try to port cdwrite - it's dead !!!!! > > Cdrecord is alife and it's much better structured. Cdrecord currently runs on > SunOS/Solaris and Linux. a Guy at HP will port it to HP/UX in the near future. > This may be all true, and I suspect me to do some work on cdrecord, but I this port was quite simple for cdwrite and that's still in use (for the xcdroast program for example) and serves me good on my Linux box. Have a nice day Frank -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP! Need Mathematica 2.0 Disk Image(s) Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 05:52:25 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970522055151.13577A-100000@kira> References: <01bc6637$fd8c5c40$1293d4cc@grayslab.wrightstrat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Eric R. Balch" <ebalch@wrightstrat.com> In-Reply-To: <01bc6637$fd8c5c40$1293d4cc@grayslab.wrightstrat> What does the Installer log say happened? Are you sure you have permission to install all the files? Did you try installing as root? TjL
From: NO_SPAM.michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace.app as Preferences module or command line version? Date: 22 May 1997 08:18:04 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5m0vfs$9ov$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5llfsp$54b@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> <5ln5b4$1i@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> wrote: >Well thanks, yes, I know. Although Fiend.app is very cool (I even like the >icon...), it is an overkill for my needs. The original dock offers just >enough place for the apps I need most of the time. The only thing disturbing >me is the fact that I need to start a full application for having my screen >protected from burning in (yes I know the unix tools darkening the screen >but that's no elegant solution). IMHO a preferences module would be ideal >because Preferences.app is running here all the time. Hhm, why don't you just use the Preferences screen dimmer? You can find it in the Display Preferences section and it works lik a charme for me: the screen becomes black. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax 1.04g and OS/Mach 4.x Date: 22 May 1997 14:59:32 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5m1n0k$ro5$4@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <01bc663c$b3304fd0$114f6fcb@decisionware> Greg Shaw (gshaw@zeta.org.au) wrote: > I just had a thought. Has anyone upgrade from NSFIP 3.x where they were > happily running NXFax to OS/Mach 4.x? Does NXFax still work under 4.x? Is > it required or has the way of driving fax modems changed? I know that > NXFax is becoming unsupported software so does anyone know what still > works? NXFax continues to work. Too bad it never was ported to support a greater variety of modems. > Indeed, I would be interested to hear of any upgrade experiences of what > worked under 3.3 but required patches, adjustments or disposal under 4.x. I had to upgrade from 32 to 48 MB :-) The only app that gave me problems was the new, openstepified Draw - I can no longer print from it. Rgds, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: js@cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Repost: Testers wanted: cdwrite-2.0 ported to NS/OS Date: 22 May 1997 16:43:49 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5m1t45$s2t$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <5lvoko$hp2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5m08if$4ds$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <5m1d2q$307$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5m1d2q$307$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>, Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.NO_SPAM.net> wrote: >In <5m08if$4ds$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Joerg Schilling wrote: >> In article <5lvoko$hp2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>, >> Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.NO_SPAM.net> wrote: >> > >> Why do you try to port cdwrite - it's dead !!!!! >> >> Cdrecord is alife and it's much better structured. Cdrecord currently runs >on >> SunOS/Solaris and Linux. a Guy at HP will port it to HP/UX in the near >future. >> > >This may be all true, and I suspect me to do some work on cdrecord, but I >this port was quite simple for cdwrite and that's still in use (for the >xcdroast program for example) and serves me good on my Linux box. xcdroast will switch over to cdrecord too. ... serves good if no errors occur, than you are lost with cdwrite because you get unreadable/no error messages. Joerg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 jes@fokus.gmd.de (work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace.app as Preferences module or command line version? Date: 22 May 1997 14:21:59 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5m1kq7$33g@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <5m0vfs$9ov$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> In article <5m0vfs$9ov$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> NO_SPAM.michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) writes: > Hhm, why don't you just use the Preferences screen dimmer? You can find it > in the Display Preferences section and it works lik a charme for me: the > screen becomes black. But then, why do you think am I asking for BackSpace? I never wanted just a black screen but a command line (or Preferences) version of BackSpace.app. And of course I know since ...errr... 1990 that the screen can be dimmed like you describe :-). As written before, a dimmed-to-black screen has negative side effects for a monitor tube. And again, then I'd miss my Digital Clock BackSpace module... David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: thrall@serv.net (Dean Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems compiling OPENSTEP apps Date: 22 May 1997 17:10:46 GMT Organization: ServNet Internet Services Message-ID: <5m1umm$fm3$1@brockman.serv.net> I have just tried to compile several different apps located on next-ftp.peak.org from /pub/openstep. I grabbed and tried to compile Annuity.2.0.w.NT.bs.tar.gz and HousePrice.2.0.w.NT.bs.tar.gz. I had to edit the Makefiles. They were trying to use /NextDeveloper/Makefiles/pb_makefiles/platform.make (maybe this is a OPENSTEP 4.2 thing). Anyway, I changed it to project/platform.make in order for it to compile. Apps now compile ok, but when run I am getting the following: May 22 09:53:24 HousePrice[7451] Unable to load nib file: *nil*, exiting So my question is. Why, if this is an OPENSTEP app, that I am not able to run it? I have OPENSTEP 4.0 Mach for Intel. These apps were written on NT, but that shouldn't matter. Any ideas of what I am doing wrong? Or is there a bug in these apps that someone knows about? Thanks, Dean Johnson
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Repost: Testers wanted: cdwrite-2.0 ported to NS/OS Date: 22 May 1997 17:30:09 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5m1vr1$hft$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5lvoko$hp2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5m08if$4ds$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <5m1d2q$307$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5m1t45$s2t$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Cc: js@cs.tu-berlin.de In <5m1t45$s2t$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Joerg Schilling wrote: > >This may be all true, and I suspect me to do some work on cdrecord, but I > >this port was quite simple for cdwrite and that's still in use (for the > >xcdroast program for example) and serves me good on my Linux box. > > xcdroast will switch over to cdrecord too. > > ... serves good if no errors occur, than you are lost with cdwrite > because you get unreadable/no error messages. Somehow I didn't understand this last sentence? Yes, cdwrite gives error messages too. Maybe you want to take the Next cdwrite-2.0 source and use it as a base to implement the needed layer in your 'cdrecord' program...? -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: does NEXTSTEP run on the new Pentium II? Date: 22 May 1997 19:24:09 GMT Organization: NIEHS Message-ID: <5m26gp$4fs$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Keywords: pentium II, pentium pro, NEXTSTEP Hi, Does NEXTSTEP run on the new Pentium II machines? If so, is the pentium II a step up or a step down from the pentium pro for running NEXTSTEP? The fastest pentium II currently available is 266 MHz and I believe that the top of the line pentium pro still runs at 200 MHz. Which is better for NEXTSTEP? Thanks in advance, Gregg Dinse 919-541-4931 dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
From: "Jeffrey S. Flowers" <dagdagh@exis.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: does NEXTSTEP run on the new Pentium II? Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 17:12:48 -0400 Organization: EYE Productions Message-ID: <3384B6D0.D589C344@exis.net> References: <5m26gp$4fs$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gregg E. Dinse wrote: > > Hi, > > Does NEXTSTEP run on the new Pentium II machines? > > If so, is the pentium II a step up or a step down from the > pentium pro for running NEXTSTEP? > > The fastest pentium II currently available is 266 MHz and I > believe that the top of the line pentium pro still runs at > 200 MHz. Which is better for NEXTSTEP? > > Thanks in advance, > > Gregg Dinse > 919-541-4931 > dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov The Pentium II is merely a Pentium Pro with MMX instructions, running at a greater speed. NEXTSTEP should run faster due to the higher clock speed. If I recall correctly, applications and operating systems have to be modified to be able to use the MMX instruction set. -- Jeffrey S.Flowers dagdagh@exis.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: George Pipkin <gpp8p@Virginia.edu> Subject: WebObjects problem on NT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3384BC10.46E1@Virginia.edu> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: University of Virginia Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 21:35:12 GMT I'm amoong the hundreds of people that got an evaluation copy of WebObjects at WWDC last week. I brought it home and installed it on my NT 4.0 Server. The builder came up and worked fine, but I couldn't get my application to run under Internet Information server. In fact, I couldn't get any of the Example apps to run either. At first I thought it just couldn't find the apps. So following the instructions in "Geting Started With WebObjects", p 23 I tried to test the app (and HelloWorld as well) from the command line with a WODefaultApp -d ..... Now when it obviously can't find the app's directory, it says so with an error message. But if I enter what should be the "correct" arguments (ie the document root followed by the app's location, relative to the doc root) WODefaultApp simply sits there and grinds - there is a bit of grinding at the begining, followed by nothing. I have to Ctl-C the app to stop it. Same story when you get to it through the server - the browser sits there, and there is nothing but shooting stars....When I finally hit the stop button, it stops grinding. Well I went to the next FAQ, and it said to re-install the thing with C:\ as the root rather than C:\NeXT. Did that - no results. except for the fact that now the builder won't come up. I get the splash screen and then it hangs - can't kill it in the Task manager or anything. I actually have to reboot. Gross. Incidently thinking my NT Server must have somewthing wrong with it, I have tried all this on two different NT servers, one of which I didn't install. Same results. Is there anybody out there who has successfully installed this CD under NT with the IIS and might give me some helpful hints. I can't believe that NeXT would be passing out software that didn't work to all these people, so it must be something I'm missing here.... - George Pipkin ITC/ University of Virginia
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: compiling generic UNIX commands under OpenStep will they run under NeXTStep? Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 14:38:24 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970522143209.28232B-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: rdieter@math.unl.edu If I compile (under OpenStep/Mach) some generic UNIX program such as the GNU versions of make/bash/ etc etc can they be run under NeXTStep? I would assume 'no' but want to make sure before fiddling with things enough to be able to use 3.3 dev under OpenStep Thanks TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems"
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to copy 2.88 Meg disks Date: 22 May 1997 15:34:09 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5m2hl1$is@slip.net> Hi, How do you make a copy of a disk which is formatted at 2.88 Megs? Ordinary double density disks will do. Right? Thanks, Emmett
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NXHost an app, reset Private Server, app still works---secure? Date: 22 May 1997 22:33:15 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5m2hjb$4ua$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I just opened up an application on a remote NeXT machine, and NXHosted the app back to my principle machine. The app displayed fine. However, I then when into Preferences.app and checked the box for Private Window server. The app still seems to work. Is my machine now secure? Thanks for responding. Ed --- Edward N. Zalta Senior Researcher, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: DFG/ Digital Recordings still around?? Date: 23 May 1997 01:25:23 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5m2rm3$cc5@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5lv772$f2q$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Cc: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca In <5lv772$f2q$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Godwin wrote: > Hey guys, > > Does anyone know if Digital Recordings is still around??? I am interested > in their product.. but can't find a webpage or updates anywhere!=) > > Thanks > > Godwin > they used to post press releases for upgrades to their products and such, to the music list; I haven't heard from them in a while. I'd check the NeXT-music oriented resources. I seem to remember they were acedemic based. I hope I'm thinking of the same folks as you are talking about. -- Rick Sanford Dental Records[R] dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/ We're moving! Soon we'll be at: www.dentalrecords.com
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: does NEXTSTEP run on the new Pentium II? Date: 23 May 1997 00:54:45 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5m2psl$921$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <5m26gp$4fs$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Cc: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov In <5m26gp$4fs$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Gregg E. Dinse wrote: > Hi, > > Does NEXTSTEP run on the new Pentium II machines? > > If so, is the pentium II a step up or a step down from the > pentium pro for running NEXTSTEP? > > The fastest pentium II currently available is 266 MHz and I > believe that the top of the line pentium pro still runs at > 200 MHz. Which is better for NEXTSTEP? I just recently used a PII running 4.2 at WWDC. It ran ok, other than it had a lousy video board, but it was not my machine anyway :-) I have a PP/200 myself and did not see any noticable difference, other than the said sad graphics. - Stan -- Nature photography: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 03:33:18 -0600 From: Benoit.Marchant@questintl.com Subject: How use rumba so that users can write on mounted directory ? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <864376023.27678@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Hi, I succed to mount a NT shared drive while logged in as root with: rumba //nt_server/shared /nt -U John -P Thanks -s NT_SERVER the nt drive is mounted with root access permissions. I made chown root rumba chmod u+s rumba and while logged in as user corresponding to John/Thanks rumba //nt_server/shared /nt -U John -P Thanks -s NT_SERVER answered me: error connecting to server: [1] Not owner Does anyone has a script or an idea to get nt drive mounted on OpenStep client with rumba with netinfo ? Thanks in advance for help Best Regards, Benoit Marchant -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: "Bruce J. Dolby" <B.Dolby@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How do I rotate ps picture? Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 10:35:11 +0100 Organization: Alcatel SEL Message-ID: <338564CF.74F0@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello NeXT people, I would like to rotate a ps picture (90 degrees). Normally this would be no problem, but I would like to do this from the command line. Any hints? BJD PS.: I like doing things the hard way.
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTstep (Black M68k) Software? Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 09:48:48 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Message-ID: <EAMoLD.7zz@micmac.com> References: <colin-1805971516500001@anderson.vt.com> <jbf_see_sig-ya023580001805972037220001@news.tiac.net> <337FE3D0.5A25@earthlink.net> Cc: skellener@earthlink.net This was written in comp.sys.next.software (<337FE3D0.5A25@earthlink.net>) by Steve Kellener: > > You're kidding right? I can't wait to get Mail.app on my Mac with > Rhapsody! I wouldn't touch Eudora with a ten foot pole! > The fact is that some features have much better implementations in Eudora: The Draft mode in Mail.app is very cumbersome (each save makes a new message - quite clunky to send the message when you're done. In Eudora it's quite simple: you write and you save. It stays in the Out Window as long as you want. When you're done you send it! -- mc _________________________________________________________ Michel Coste <mailto:mic@micmac.com>
From: Maurice van Steensel <m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS on SPARC/IPC Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 14:25:28 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Message-ID: <33860B48.5EF7@antrg.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I know there is NS 3 for SPARC but does it run on a 1993 SPARCstation IPC? If so: does anyone know how to get it? Thanks in advance Maurice
From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mpeg layer 3 realtime audio player for Next? Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 15:15:55 +0000 Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970523151436.1836E-100000@ikarus.jura.uni-bonn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there anywhere a realtime layer 3 audio player available for Next Computers? Regards Konstantin Wiesel Email:kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to copy 2.88 Meg disks Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 06:31:22 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970523062058.4622D-100000@kira> References: <5m2hl1$is@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5m2hl1$is@slip.net> On 22 May 1997, Emmett McLean wrote: > How do you make a copy of a disk which is formatted at 2.88 Megs? assuming that the fooppy mounts at /dev/fd0a (you can check by mounting it and doing 'mount -p' in Terminal.app) (insert 2.88 disk) dd if=/dev/rfd0a of=/tmp/edimage bs=512 (eject disk) dd if=/tmp/edimage of=/dev/rfd0a bs=512 (ps I am not sure about that bs= part... check 'man dd') See this NeXTanswer for more about duplicating disks http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1921.htmld/1921.html > Ordinary double density disks will do. Right? Absolutely not! You need a special disk called an "Extra Density" disk. There's a place called MidWestern Diskette that sold them ... check the csn.hardware archive for a post I made about this not too long ago. (Note: the NeXT floppy drive can handle these disks. Most other drives cannot.) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXHost an app, reset Private Server, app still works---secure? Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 06:19:51 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970523061618.4622C-100000@kira> References: <5m2hjb$4ua$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Edward N. Zalta" <zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU> In-Reply-To: <5m2hjb$4ua$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Someone else may know better, but... I think that to get back secure you need to turn PWS off and then logout and log back in. It used to be (I think) that you had to logout & login to get the PWS to change either on or off... Try this: Login (with PWS _OFF_) Switch PWS on, and NXHost an app Switch PWS off, and try NXHosting another app Then for fun Login (with PWS _ON_) Switch PWS _OFF_ Try to NXHost an app TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mpeg layer 3 realtime audio player for Next? Date: 23 May 1997 14:39:45 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5m4a7h$cqq$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970523151436.1836E-100000@ikarus.jura.uni-bonn.de> Cc: kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de In <Pine.NXT.3.95.970523151436.1836E-100000@ikarus.jura.uni-bonn.de> Konstantin Wiesel wrote: > > Is there anywhere a realtime layer 3 audio player available for Next > Computers? Guess you are refering to MPEG I Layer 3 audio files (MP3)... My 'MMP2' can do this and other formats (MIDI, SND, MOD, MP1, MP2) too. It is on the archives... (Intel only, m68k is way too slow) -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp (Toshinao Ishii) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax 1.04g and OS/Mach 4.x Date: 23 May 1997 16:08:32 GMT Organization: 3Web internet service Message-ID: <5m4fe0$rqd@news.osk.threewebnet.or.jp> References: <01bc663c$b3304fd0$114f6fcb@decisionware> <5m1n0k$ro5$4@news.th-darmstadt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by MimeKit/1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Cc: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam Hi, In <5m1n0k$ro5$4@news.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote: Greg Shaw (gshaw@zeta.org.au) wrote: > happily running NXFax to OS/Mach 4.x? Does NXFax still work under 4.x? Is > it required or has the way of driving fax modems changed? I know that > NXFax is becoming unsupported software so does anyone know what still > works? I am using NXFax on OPENSTEP 4.1J. So far, no problem. The modem is "Microcom V.34 ES II". -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* $B@P0f=SD>(B Toshinao Ishii email: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp (NeXTMail/MIME Welcome)
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXHost an app, reset Private Server, app still works---secure? Date: 23 May 1997 09:47:22 -0700 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5m4hmq$21s@mpaque.mpaque> References: <5m2hjb$4ua$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In article <5m2hjb$4ua$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) writes: > I just opened up an application on a remote NeXT machine, and NXHosted > the app back to my principle machine. The app displayed fine. However, > I then when into Preferences.app and checked the box for Private Window > server. The app still seems to work. Is my machine now secure? Flipping betewwn Public and Private WindowServer affects how new connections between apps and the WindowServer are formed, and will not affect existing connections. That's why your NXHosted app still works after you've flipped on Private WindowServer. -- Mike Paquette (mpaque@wco.com) Well, if there *were* anything to say, it would be with the understanding that the PR/Marketing people want to make the announcements on products, so anything I have to say wouldn't actually exist until after then, so what I might have to say now doesn't exist, and what I may say in future can't be said, so theoretically what exists, doesn't, for the immediate future. (With apologies to Joe Straczynski)
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS on SPARC/IPC Date: 23 May 1997 22:52:21 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5m5735$cb$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <33860B48.5EF7@antrg.azn.nl> Cc: m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl In <33860B48.5EF7@antrg.azn.nl> Maurice van Steensel wrote: > Hi all, > > I know there is NS 3 for SPARC but does it run on a 1993 SPARCstation > IPC? If so: does anyone know how to get it? > No, it wont. NS for Sparc runs on: Sparcstation 4's with 75 and 85? MHz processors (I also run it on my 110MHz sparcstation 4, but that's not a supported platform, and I don't have a sound card for it so no sound), Sparcstation 5's with 75, 85, and 110 MHz processors (I suspect this is because the SS5 has a built in sound card), and Sparcstation 10 or 20s with a single 50, 75 (and I think one other less than 100MHz) processor. For one, it require a Microsparc II. Thus the Sparcstation 1 and 2, and their relatives (the IPC, IPX, SLC, and ELC) are all out. For two, lots of expansion boards aren't available.. like the SunPC boards, the VRAM expansion for the SS4, etc. Basically Sun did the least they could to follow through on their end of the bargain. If you need a Sparc, buy an Axil. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NS on SPARC/IPC Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EAnAzr.nL0@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 17:52:39 GMT References: <33860B48.5EF7@antrg.azn.nl> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <33860B48.5EF7@antrg.azn.nl>, Maurice van Steensel <M.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl> wrote: >Hi all, > >I know there is NS 3 for SPARC but does it run on a 1993 SPARCstation >IPC? If so: does anyone know how to get it? > No. NS/Sparc runs only on MicroSPARC II and SuperSPARC CPUs, which amounts to SS4, SS5, SS10, and non HyperSPARC SS20s. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: coao@ceta-cpq1.mit.edu (Chi On Ao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Cubx License? Date: 24 May 1997 00:59:24 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5m5ehc$os3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hi, I have just got an old copy of Cub' X-Window (v3.1) but found that it required a license number specific to my computer's hostid. I have not been able to contact the appropriate source for the license number. Does anyone know where I could turn to? Many thanks in advance. Chi Ao
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: does NEXTSTEP run on the new Pentium II? Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 17:48:20 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <33863AC2.541D@earthlink.net> References: <5m26gp$4fs$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gregg E. Dinse wrote: > > Hi, > > Does NEXTSTEP run on the new Pentium II machines? > > If so, is the pentium II a step up or a step down from the > pentium pro for running NEXTSTEP? I've used NeXTSTEP on a Pentium Pro 200Mhz and it is quite peppy! I think Pentium ll is just a Pro with MMX. STEVE K.
From: kevin@lasvegasdirect.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FS: Buisness Software etc... Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 05:04:35 GMT Organization: InteleNet Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <338676af.36671574@news.intelenet.net> I have: Compaq smartstart set of software it has license agreement etc..it includes: CD #1 Compaq smartsuite release 2.40 CD #2 NetWare 3.12, NetWare 4.1, ARCserve 5.01 CD #3 online documentation for NetWare 3.12, NetWare 4.1 CD #4 UnixWare 2-all of it CD #5 online documentation for UnixWare 2 CD #6 SCO Unix 4.2 and a lot of TCP/IP etc. CD #7 SCO Open Server 5 a lot of other SCO software CD #8 IBM OS/2 2.11 IBM OS/2 3 etc. CD #9 IBM OS/2 Warp connect Ver. 3 CD #10 Oracle 7.1 for SCO Unix CD #11 Oracle 7.1 for NetWare CD #12 Oracle 7.1 for Windows NT Make an offer.. will spilt up software.. Kevin@lasvegasdirect.com alsoFor sale: Intel 486sx-25 cpu $10.00 (shipped) Intel 386dx-25 cpu $7.00 (shipped) Intel 387dx-25 cpu $7.00 (shipped) all 3 $20.00 (shipped) 486dx2-66 cpu + motherboard+ 32bit io card(sup. up 4hd) $90.00 (shipped) VGA 14' monochrome monitor $60.00 (shipped) VGA 14' monitor $100.00 (shipped) Digital 486 AMDdx-66 computer 32bit 1mg. video 8 megs. RAM 8 bit sound card 1.44 floppy onboard IO 40 meg hard drive desktop case for $250.00 (shipped) 386 sx-40 motherboard 128k cache $35.00 (shipped) Seagate st-251 5 1/4 40mg hard drive with controller card $20.00 (shipped) Conner 40mg 3 1/2 hard drive $20.00 (shipped) Segate SCSI controller card $30.00 (shipped) 286-16 motherboard+ built on: io, video, coms,4 30pin 256k RAM $15.00 (shipped) with case $35.00 (shipped) 8088 motherboard turbo bios $7.00 (shipped) 50 foot printer cable *new in package* $25.00 (shipped) Packard Bell 386sx-16 desktop case io,com,video 4 30pin 256k RAM 5 1/4 floppy no hard drive no 1.44 floppy keyboard, all for $40.00 (shipped) 2400 modem $7.00 (shipped) Com cards $4.00 (shipped)
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 02:32:07 -0600 From: Benoit.Marchant@questintl.com Subject: New NFS Client for NextStep, OS 4.1, O.S 4.2 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <864458820.17741@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Hi, I experience troubles using an NT Server as a file server througth NFS with OpenStep 4.1 Clients. Other people got the same troubles with SGI servers. I rode in this thread that NeXT had a patch for it ? NeXT, is it correct ? If it is not possible to be supported by NeXT itself, would it be possible for someone with that knowledge and a bit of time to adapt the NFS Client of Linux for which source code is available to NeXTSTEP/OpenStep for Mach ? Best regards, Benoit Marchant -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: js@cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Repost: Testers wanted: cdwrite-2.0 ported to NS/OS Date: 24 May 1997 10:43:48 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5m6gp4$e8e$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <5lvoko$hp2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5m1d2q$307$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5m1t45$s2t$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <5m1vr1$hft$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5m1vr1$hft$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>, Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.NO_SPAM.net> wrote: >In <5m1t45$s2t$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Joerg Schilling wrote: >> >This may be all true, and I suspect me to do some work on cdrecord, but I >> >this port was quite simple for cdwrite and that's still in use (for the >> >xcdroast program for example) and serves me good on my Linux box. >> >> xcdroast will switch over to cdrecord too. >> >> ... serves good if no errors occur, than you are lost with cdwrite >> because you get unreadable/no error messages. > >Somehow I didn't understand this last sentence? Yes, cdwrite gives error cdwrite gives error messages too, bot noone can read them, it is simply lost of numbers that you only understand if you have the SCSI command reference manual of the current drive ;-( >messages too. Maybe you want to take the Next cdwrite-2.0 source and use it >as a base to implement the needed layer in your 'cdrecord' program...? I have no Next computer and unfortunately no time to do this besides other things. But if you stick with cdwrite, you can wait to the end of this year and there will be no drives out that will run with cdwrite. Joerg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 jes@fokus.gmd.de (work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Repost: Testers wanted: cdwrite-2.0 ported to NS/OS Date: 24 May 1997 12:17:51 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5m6m9f$a5r$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5lvoko$hp2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5m1d2q$307$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5m1t45$s2t$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <5m1vr1$hft$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5m6gp4$e8e$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Cc: js@cs.tu-berlin.de In <5m6gp4$e8e$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Joerg Schilling wrote: > cdwrite gives error messages too, bot noone can read them, it is simply > lost of numbers that you only understand if you have the SCSI command > reference manual of the current drive ;-( Please, let us stop this silly thread. The version of cdwrite-2.0 for NS/OS gives error messages (readable ones, like 'xxxx failed'), because the complete SCSI layer was replaced. > I have no Next computer and unfortunately no time to do this besides other > things. But if you stick with cdwrite, you can wait to the end of this > year and there will be no drives out that will run with cdwrite. I have a Yamaha CDR-100 here and I not think it will explode by the end of the year ;-) Is this a kind of religious issue to you? -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: js@cs.tu-berlin.de (Joerg Schilling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Repost: Testers wanted: cdwrite-2.0 ported to NS/OS Date: 24 May 1997 14:23:22 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5m6tkq$ibn$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <5lvoko$hp2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5m1vr1$hft$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5m6gp4$e8e$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> <5m6m9f$a5r$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5m6m9f$a5r$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>, Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.NO_SPAM.net> wrote: >In <5m6gp4$e8e$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Joerg Schilling wrote: >> cdwrite gives error messages too, bot noone can read them, it is simply >> lost of numbers that you only understand if you have the SCSI command >> reference manual of the current drive ;-( > >Please, let us stop this silly thread. The version of cdwrite-2.0 for NS/OS There was never a reson to have this thread. My first article had a cc mail to you. I thought you would reply by e-mail >> I have no Next computer and unfortunately no time to do this besides other >> things. But if you stick with cdwrite, you can wait to the end of this >> year and there will be no drives out that will run with cdwrite. > >I have a Yamaha CDR-100 here and I not think it will explode by the end of >the year ;-) I you think it is OK to have a port working for you, you are right. >Is this a kind of religious issue to you? I have no religious issue on this theme. I simply thought I could give you a hint. Joerg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) If you don't have iso-8859-1 jes@fokus.gmd.de (work) chars I am J"org Schilling URL: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/usr/schilling ftp://ftp.fokus.gmd.de/pub/unix
From: rfell@fell.shore.net (Richard Noel Fell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Latest latex,tex for 3.3 Date: 24 May 1997 15:51:02 GMT Organization: Shore.Net/Eco Software, Inc; (info@shore.net) Message-ID: <5m72p6$prb@fridge-nf0.shore.net> Keywords: latex,tex Is there a latest version (later than the one that came with 3.3) of tex, latex and previewer for Next os 3.3 on a turbo? Pleae email any responses. Thanks, Dick Fell
From: a9101322@unet.univie.ac.at () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mouse problem Date: 24 May 1997 16:53:21 GMT Organization: Vienna University, Austria Message-ID: <5m76e1$puu@www.univie.ac.at> Hi, I am having problems in installing OpenStep 4.1 for Intel because I can't use the given mouse driver and don't know how to change that without using the mouse. I have a serial mouse (Logitech Pilot). If someone knows a hint, please contact me via E-Mail, since I don't have the chance to check this group very often. Thanks in advance! Michi
From: GehleSoftware@t-online.de (Carsten Gehle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How do I rotate ps picture? Date: 23 May 1997 11:28:41 GMT Organization: Gehle Software Message-ID: <5m3v19$fap$1@news01.btx.dtag.de> References: <338564CF.74F0@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: B.Dolby@pfh.sel.alcatel.de Do you want to rotate an eps file or in picture included in a ps file ? Carsten
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Video thru DSP for cubes ? Date: 24 May 1997 13:41:40 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5m7jq4$eov@slip.net> Hi, Is there a way to get video to a cube from the DSP and to use some alternative to NeXTTIME? Thanks, Emmett
From: jinyu@eagle.pa.dec.com (Jin Yu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OS for Mach NXHost to OS for non-Mach Date: 25 May 1997 00:20:57 GMT Organization: DEC Systems Research Center Message-ID: <5m80l9$cjq@src-news.pa.dec.com> Can you run an app from OPENSTEP for Mach (whether intel, sparc, or motorola) and have it displayed (NXHost'ed) to an OPENSTEP for non-Mach machine (winnt, solaris) ? I have heard that you can run apps from OS for Mach and display it to OS for WinNT, but not visa versa... Specificly, I would like to know whether it is possible to display apps from OS for Mach to OS for Solaris. Please reply by email. Thanks. Jin
From: "Jeffrey S. Flowers" <dagdagh@exis.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Openstep for Black Boxes Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 20:40:29 -0400 Organization: EYE Productions Message-ID: <33878A7D.513E5228@exis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am in the process of buying a 040 Monoslab, with 8MB RAM and a 105 MB HDD. It currently has 3.3 User installed. Can 4.2 be installed on this computer? If so, won't the RAM and HDD need to be upgraded? Also, in my past experiences, new SCSI drives need to be low level formatted prior to use. Do the ROMS of a NextStation have the ability to do the low level formatting or do you have to use a different utility? -- Jeffrey S. Flowers dagdagh@exis.net EYE Productions
From: chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Video thru DSP for cubes ? Date: 25 May 1997 02:35:15 GMT Organization: Front Range Internet, Inc. Message-ID: <5m88h3$j2p$1@europa.frii.com> References: <5m7jq4$eov@slip.net> In-Reply-To: <5m7jq4$eov@slip.net> On 05/24/97, Emmett McLean wrote: >Hi, > >Is there a way to get video to a cube from the DSP >and to use some alternative to NeXTTIME? Could you describe what you mean a little better? The above doesn't make any sense to me... -- Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> "Humbly speaking for myself only."
From: David Young <daver@jacobs.Geeks.ORG> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Video thru DSP for cubes ? Date: 25 May 1997 02:43:38 GMT Organization: Geeks Organizations Message-ID: <5m890q$lvo$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5m7jq4$eov@slip.net> <5m88h3$j2p$1@europa.frii.com> chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu wrote: > On 05/24/97, Emmett McLean wrote: > >Is there a way to get video to a cube from the DSP > >and to use some alternative to NeXTTIME? > Could you describe what you mean a little better? The above doesn't make any > sense to me... It sounds like he wants do to video in via the DSP port, and use another video player than NeXTIME. As far as the first goes, you can, if you find a box called the DigitalEyes, which allowed frame grabbing from a video source through the DSP. This box worked for all NeXTs, not just cubes. The real solution for cube video is not to use the DSP at all, but to use the NeXTdimension card, which has live video in and video out ports. See the FAQ for more info. As far as other movie players go, there's a MPEG player on the archives, and a couple other players. I rather like NEXTIME, personally. -- :: d a v i d y o u n g ::::: smtp dwy@ace.net http www.ace.net :: :: PGP fingerprint :: 89F5 E75D 4749 3FF4 :: ED92 1B6D 9871 9B93 ::
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <16065863928021@digifix.com> Date: 25 May 1997 03:57:50 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <12797864532834@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Seek PhoneKit.app Date: 24 May 1997 23:53:37 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5m8nlh$ak5@slip.net> Hi, If anyone has PhoneKit.app handy and would be kind enought to E-mail a uuencoded version it would be really terrific. Apparently it came on some version of NeXTSTEP. It is not at ftp.next.peak.org. I just purchased an ISDN Extender which uses it. Thanks, Emmett
From: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca (Seamus Dunne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help Install NS3.3.-->Intel box w NO SCSI? Date: 25 May 1997 04:56:15 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5m8gpf$d18$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi A number of NeXT-knowledgable fellows have told me that NEXTSTEP 3.3 will, in fact, install onto a PC (AMD K5, 64 MB RAM, Quantum 3.2 GB HD, partitioned into a 700 MB part'n, made "installable" and active; this is where NEXTSTEP will go) using the 2 floppies supplied with NS for Intel. OPENSTEP will install *without using a SCSI CDROM*, despite what the sages prescribe. Been there; done it. YES I *know* that the usual situation calls for a SCSI CD- ROM: This is my question. Can I install NS3.3? I've done so with Open step 4.0---but I don't own that CD, only the NS3.3 CD. *** Note that I have printed and read Nextanswers, particularly #1561 (NS for Intel Processors) & #1951 (More than One O/S).*** I've tried doing as directed: selecting first an Adaptec SCSI driver. then an ATAPI/EIDE driver....The sys finds the Quantum HD, but cannot find the SCSI device. I get "packet sent...packet not received" and other errors. Any advice would be appreciated. Reply here, but certainly to my email, so I don't miss anything. >>>>> THANK YOU......SD -- If I can't die happily-- I'd rather not die at all. Anon
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NeXT Manuals, Books? Message-ID: <EAqJLE.5C8@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <colin-1805971514400001@anderson.vt.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 11:51:14 GMT In article <colin-1805971514400001@anderson.vt.com> colin@anderson.vt.com (Colin Anderson) writes: > Hi, I'm yet another Mac user that bought a secondhand (manual-less) > NeXTstation (Mono, non-turbo). While I have been able to install a few > shareware apps onto this machine, I would like to learn how to do more > with it. What books are/were available for the NeXTstation? What kinds > of manuals came with the NeXTstation and where could I order them? > Only very basic printed manuals came with the software. And since black machines are out of sale none of the user manuals that came with them is available anymore. But almost most of this (and much more) went into the online documentation in /NextLibrary/Bookshelves where it is easily accessible through DigitalLibrarian... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
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From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SafetyNet like backup software for Windows NT 4.0 Date: 25 May 1997 19:25:36 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <5ma3ng$6c6$1@dropit.pgh.net> The last time I posted this, somebody wrote to suggest Seagate Backup for Win95, v2.0. However, the writer said it was difficult to set up and that it did not maintain separate archives or rebuild archives from the tape. It WILL search for a file on the tape which is something SafetyNet does not do, but should. I like SafetNet a lot and I would like to find something for NT 4.0 that is as much like it as possible. In particular, I like to maintina multiple archives on line so the tape doesn't have to be read each time as in NT's backup. ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5m9t6m$l04@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Date: 25 May 1997 19:00:18 GMT Control: cancel <5m9t6m$l04@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5m9t6m$l04@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Sender: f5e13rty@fia.net Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: MARYWORLD Original Subject: 6 Million FREE Email Addresses
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: Private to Todd Nathan Message-ID: <EAr4Cn.681.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <5kt26q$2gl@shelob.afs.com> <5l2a63$e4c$1@news.Austria.EU.net> Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 19:19:35 GMT In article <5l2a63$e4c$1@news.Austria.EU.net>, Stefan Schneider <stefan@ping.at> wrote: > >On 05/08/97, Gregory H. Anderson wrote: >>Todd, you contacted AFS about beta testing, but your email return >>address <tnathan@mailserv.metro.mci.com> is unreachable. Please >>contact me with another alternative. Thanks. > >Me too, please, concerning LBII promotion issues. Me too, regarding licensing of my MPEG_Play source code. (gee, this Todd Nathan gets around quite a bit for someone without a functional return email address :-) -- Brian Willoughby NEXTSTEP, OpenStep, Rhapsody Software Design Sound Consulting Bellevue, WA, U.S.A. Registered NeXT/Apple Enterprise Alliance Partner BrianW@SoundS.WA.com NeXTmail welcome
Message-ID: <3388B6F8.4B64@ultranet.ca> Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:02:32 -0700 From: JOHN HILLS <a1b01050@ultranet.ca> Organization: J.Hills Radiology, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gatekeeper/PPP help needed (Somebody Please Respond ) even a spam or a flame References: <5l5b5e$e7s$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <5lccjm$919$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <5lccs2$919$2@macaw.cyberport.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cmoore wrote: > > In article <5lccjm$919$1@macaw.cyberport.com>, cmoore@cyberport.com says... > > Would somebody PLEASE offer any hint or tip, > > In article <5l5b5e$e7s$1@macaw.cyberport.com>, cmoore@cyberport.com says... > > >>I am having problems getting gatekeeper to make and hold a ppp connection. > this in NS 3.3 on Intel. > > Anyone with ANY clues would be gratefully appreciated.. > > thus far. > > PPP installed. > gatekeeper installed > foundation patch. > new serial drivers off of objectware CD > > Gatekeeper dials, connects, brings ppp up, assigns remote and local > addresses, makes the cool sound, and then the timer starts. > > but still, Omniweb will not load a home page or anything.. > Mail app, doesnt see nntp server. > Newswatcher doesnt see the server.. > > what the heck is wrong ? > after a week of this i am thinking Windows95 is a work of Art. > > everything on this system works perfect ...EXCEPT i cannot make a PPP > ???? any clues, hints, tips etc Dear Desperate, Don't despair. I connect very easily to the net using PPP directly. With a little understanding, GateKeeper is superfluous. Have you read the manual for pppd? Anyway, I suspect that the problem may not be with your ppp connection as such, but with your netinfo or routing configuration. What do you have in your resolv.conf? Please, no 100 kb tar files, like the last guy I tried to help. I don't always use the same machine or OS to access the net. No Windows is not a work of art and Bill will always be a geek. jhills@ultranet.ca
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From: "Christian Jensen" <cejensen@bitstream.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sendmail Problem Date: 25 May 1997 19:43:22 GMT Organization: My Company Message-ID: <01bc6943$c992d5e0$7ced90ce@default> I am in the process of setting up sendmail on my cube and am getting the following error when booting: May 25 14:09:29 ganesh mach: The network is disabled or your computer isn't connected to it. May 25 14:09:35 ganesh sendmail[133]: My unqualified host name (ganesh) unknown; sleeping for retry May 25 14:10:38 ganesh sendmail[133]: unable to qualify my own domain name (ganesh) -- using short name Ganesh is my machine name. The first line abot the network being disable always pops up; My machine is standalone. The next two is what I'm concerned with. When the "sleeping" line pops up, the machine halts for maybe 20 seconds, then the next line appears and the machine resumes booting. Any suggestions on how to correct this would be appreciated. Many thanks --Chris ********************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: JumpBack cryptic message... Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 20:10:46 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Message-ID: <EAr6py.1xD@micmac.com> I do my backups with JumpBack. Now it tells me again and again the same thing about some files that appear to be safe: Warning: missing links... These are GIF files. And they are all in the same directory. -- mc _________________________________________________________ Michel Coste <mailto:mic@micmac.com>
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Manuals, Books? Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 23:09:09 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <338928BB.1074@earthlink.net> References: <colin-1805971514400001@anderson.vt.com> <EAqJLE.5C8@nidat.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Programming the Display PostScript System with NeXTstep, Adobe Systems Inc., 0-201-58135-3, Addison-Wesley NeXTstep Programming: Step One: Object-Oriented Applications, Garfinkel, Simson L., 3-540-97884-4 (with disk), Springer-Verlag NeXTstep Programming: Step Two: Object-Oriented Toolkits, Garfinkel, Simson L., 3-540-94144-4 (mit CD-ROM), Springer-Verlag NeXT Development Tools, NeXT, 0-201-58132-9, Addison-Wesley NeXTstep Reference, NeXT, 0-201-58136-1, Addison-Wesley Sound, Music and Signal Processing on a NeXT computer – Concepts, NeXT, 0-201-58137-X, Addison-Wesley Sound, Music and Signal Processing on a NeXT computer – Reference, NeXT, 0-201-58146-9, Addison-Wesley NeXT on your Desk – An Introductory Guide to using NeXT Computers, Shebanek, Mike, 3-540-97956-5, Springer-Verlag
From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Virtual Desktop Manager? Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:16:46 +0000 Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970526111427.4291A-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am looking for a virtual desktop manager for NextStep. I allready found WideScreen.app but would like to know if there are other ones available for the intel Platform and where to get them. Regards Konstantin Wiesel Email:kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de
From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Emacs for NextStep wheres the latest? Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:22:14 +0000 Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970526112020.4291B-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can somebody please direct me to a site where i can download the latest Emacs for NextStep? Regards Konstantin Wiesel Email:kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de
From: Maurice van Steensel <m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS on SPARC/IPC Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:12:21 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen dept of Human Genetics Message-ID: <3389FCB5.68F1@antrg.azn.nl> References: <33860B48.5EF7@antrg.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the answer; I have this IPC at work and have to use SunOS on it:(. I'll try and install Solaris or something. Pity it won't run NS though. Maurice Maurice van Steensel wrote: > > Hi all, > > I know there is NS 3 for SPARC but does it run on a 1993 SPARCstation > IPC? If so: does anyone know how to get it? > > Thanks in advance > > Maurice
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep for Black Boxes Date: 26 May 1997 14:31:20 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5mc6ro$5qk$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <33878A7D.513E5228@exis.net> Jeffrey S. Flowers (dagdagh@exis.net) wrote: > I am in the process of buying a 040 Monoslab, with 8MB RAM and a 105 MB > HDD. It currently has 3.3 User installed. Can 4.2 be installed on this > computer? If so, won't the RAM and HDD need to be upgraded? <cough> 8 MB? Is it useable at all? You'll need 16 to run 3.3 at a halfways decent speed, and I strongly recommend getting more to run 4.2. Since the machine has a 105 disk, it's probably an older non-turbo slab. However, being a mono machine, it will still be usable with 4.2 (disclaimer: I've only seen 4.1 on black so far). You also need a larger disk, especially if you want to do a little development (black hardware isn't quite fast enough to do serious development though). I'd say the minimum should be around 400 MB. > Also, in my past experiences, new SCSI drives need to be low level > formatted prior to use. Do the ROMS of a NextStation have the ability to > do the low level formatting or do you have to use a different utility? Attach (with a scsi id higher then the internal), power up, log in, when it asks you if you want to format the disk, click "yes". :-) Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AVI on NeXT? Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:46:07 +0100 Organization: Stockholm Univerity Distribution: world Message-ID: <3389941F.69AA@msi.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello NeXT community! is there some video player around for black hardware that let's me play avi video files? Harald
From: dogmatix@fsmat.htu.tuwien.ac.at (Bauer Michael) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HD problem Date: 26 May 1997 16:56:44 GMT Organization: Fachschaft Technische Mathematik Message-ID: <5mcfcc$elu@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi after installing OpenStep 4.1 on a 3.2GB HD (I used 700MB as a partition for DOS) I just had 800 MB for using OpenStep... I already checked the size of both partition, but I found nothing unusual... please help thanks Michael
From: Dayne Miller <daynem@excell.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: command-line Webster? Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 10:55:16 -0700 Organization: Excell Data Corporation Message-ID: <3389CE83.7D08FD44@excell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Is there any way to get command-line access to Digital Webster? It would be very useful to me to be able to telnet to my NEXTSTEP box from elsewhere and be able to look up definitions/synonyms. Thanks in advance. -Dayne Miller daynem@excell.com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs for NextStep wheres the latest? Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 11:18:09 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970526111401.23793A-100000@kira> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970526112020.4291B-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970526112020.4291B-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> http://nice.ethz.ch/~chris/emacs.html <plug> These and other NS/OS links easily accessible from http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html <a downloadable bookmarks page suitable for use with omniWeb> </plug> TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5mcl3e$kp4@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Date: 26 May 1997 18:49:01 GMT Control: cancel <5mcl3e$kp4@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5mcl3e$kp4@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Sender: m9e13rty@fia.net Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: MARYWORLD Original Subject: FREE 10 Day Bulk Email Software Is this cancel message showing up on an email list? If so, please see: http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/news_gateway.html
From: see@address.in.signature (Martin-Gilles Lavoie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT as print server Date: 26 May 1997 19:58:15 GMT Organization: iSTAR internet Incorporated Message-ID: <5mcq0n$nck@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> I have a NeXT Station Color (color slab?) at home which I bought for experimentation purposes and tweaking until Rhapsody is usable on my PowerMac 8600/200. Being interested in a laser printer, I was wondering if there was any kind of software available that would let me use a NeXT printer (connected to the color slab) off my PowerMac, via network (ethernet, using TCP/IP) or serial connection. I would appreciate any comment/info from people in-the-know. -- Martin-Gilles Lavoie | "No! Try not. Do! or do not mouser@zercom.net | There is no try." www.zercom.net/~mouser/ | --Yoda on error handling
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT as print server Date: 26 May 1997 21:33:49 GMT Message-ID: <19970526213300.RAA16187@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5mcq0n$nck@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> Here's an announcement on a package which I believe will do this William http://members.aol.com/willadams [Sorry for the English x-posting to a german newsgroup, but maybe this is of some interest] Howdy! I am proud to annouce the public availability of the easy-install binary CAP (Columbia Appletalk Package) for NeXTStep 3.3/OpenStep 4.x on Intel processors. It contains everything to turn your NeXTStep system into a AppleShare (Appletalk native Phase II) file and print server. Additional it enables you to mount remote AppleShare volumes on your NeXTStep machine and to print to remote LaserWriters. It contains an administration program called 'CAPer.app' that does most of the installation work and provides you with an interface to control the CAP processes quite painlessly. The installation was tested by various beta testers and for most of them it seems to work. Some parts still requires some sysadmin knowledge but exporting filesystems, mounting filesystems and providing printer spool services should be quite easy to work with. The distribution contains the full source code for BPF0.25b3 and CAPpl198, so you can rebuild the major parts of the package if you want to include some special features in CAP. At the moment you can fetch the package from http://www.this.net/~frank/CAPer.app.V1.I.b.tar.gz http://www.this.net/~frank/README.rtfd.tar.gz You may want to fetch the readme file before downloading the full 2.5 MByte package. It contains information if CAPer will work on your system, see below. ***** On what systems does the package work: It was tested on NeXTSTEP 3.3/Intel and OpenStep 4.0/Intel where it seems to work quite well. It does not work on NeXTSTEP 3.2/Intel due to some missing features in the kernel. ***** Anything to consider before installing: Appletalk Phase II needs multicasting capabilities. Some ethernet drivers don't support this, so read the CAPer documentation if your driver is supported. The kernel server (BPF) needs a lot of kernel memory, you may want to give your system more buffers. Again look in the CAPer documentation on how to do this. It is not tested in all environments, so bugs may still lurk inside. As usually you are working at your own risk. ***** What's the price of this package Zero. Null. Nichts. Nada. CAPer/CAPpl198/BPF/afpmount are distributed free of charge for any purpose abeit various copyrights apply. Look in the CAPer documentation for more information. You may not sell it, but you can give it away. ***** Shall I put it on the ftp archives Please do not at the moment. As soon I received reports that the package really works in most environments I will do this myself. Conside this release a public beta :-) ***** Will it run on m68k, Sparc, HPPA m68k - yes, definitely. sparc & hppa, most likely - we have to check if the kernel symbols support the BPF but otherwise I see no reason for problems. :-) Please provide feedback, thanks! -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Video thru DSP for cubes ? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EAsxEx.LCs@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 18:44:57 GMT References: <5m7jq4$eov@slip.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5m7jq4$eov@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: >Hi, > >Is there a way to get video to a cube from the DSP >and to use some alternative to NeXTTIME? > What do you mean by "video"? There was the "Digital Eyes" gizmo that plugged into the DSP port, but I don't know much about it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Openstep for Black Boxes Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EAt3Hu.EEw@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 20:56:18 GMT References: <33878A7D.513E5228@exis.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <33878A7D.513E5228@exis.net>, Jeffrey S. Flowers <dagdagh@exis.net> wrote: >I am in the process of buying a 040 Monoslab, with 8MB RAM and a 105 MB >HDD. It currently has 3.3 User installed. Can 4.2 be installed on this >computer? If so, won't the RAM and HDD need to be upgraded? > OS/Mach 4.2 will run fine, but yes, you'll need to upgrade the RAM and disk. 32MB RAM and 1GB disk will be fine. >Also, in my past experiences, new SCSI drives need to be low level >formatted prior to use. Do the ROMS of a NextStation have the ability to >do the low level formatting or do you have to use a different utility? > No low-level formatting is necessary unless you want to (and the drive supports) 1024-byte sectors. Use sdformat (as I recall) for this. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help: Apply "Set Font" (to selection), Edit.app changes entire file?? Date: 27 May 1997 00:30:39 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5md9vf$l8m$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I don't use Edit.app and I have been unable to advise the visitor to my lab who wants to use it. He wants to change certain text in his RTF file to a different and larger font. But when he selects the text, and then goes through the Format menu to change the font, all the text in the file is converted to a differ font. All the text is changed even when he selects no text at all. Can anyone please explain what to do? I guess I am missing something simple, but looking through the Edit.app help files and through the various menus and Preferences, I couldn't find any info to help him. Please respond to kgn@meinong.stanford.edu. Thanks. Ed --- Edward N. Zalta Senior Researcher, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html
From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 trouble on 486 Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 19:03:16 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970526185324.1634A-100000@saul5.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros Predicate: Whose triangle is it? I have recently installed NEXTSTEP 3.3 on my old 486. The initial install went fine, but after the machine was rebooted two or three times, NEXTSTEP would no longer boot, giving a biosread error 0x10 (...) error message after the NEXTSTEP secondary boot prompt. It does this four times, and then resets itself. 0x10, if I'm not mistaken, is the EISA bus. This result is reproduceable, and I have installed NS three times now. Each time, it fails in the same manner. First floppy boot is fine. First reboot to install packages results in one biosread error, but the boot process continues fine. Next reset gives no biosread error, following reboot gives the multiple biosread errors and spontaneous cold reboot. Subsequent reboots do not clear the error. I am using an Intel 80486 DX/2 66 processor in an AIR 486 EL motherboard, 64 MB RAM, Buslogic 747C EISA SCSI controller, ATI Mach 32 EISA framebuffer, 3Com Etherlink III EISA NIC, and ProAudioSpectrum 16 (which I never did manage to get working). Before the terminal biosread errors, NEXTSTEP works wonderfully. Any ideas? I'm stumped. ok -r
From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 trouble on 486 Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 20:55:57 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970526205442.13694A-100000@saul2.u.washington.edu> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970526185324.1634A-100000@saul5.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970526185324.1634A-100000@saul5.u.washington.edu> Predicate: Whose triangle is it? On Mon, 26 May 1997, Ray Stricklin wrote: > biosread error 0x10 (...) The actual error reads more like biosread error 0x10 @ 0, C:0 H:0 S:0 ok -r
From: chad@pengar.com (Chad Leigh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to get OpenStep to stop waiting for NetInfo parent? Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 23:52:09 -0600 Organization: Pengar Enterprises, Inc. Message-ID: <chad-2605972352090001@sverige.pengar.com> A few weeks ago I set up an OpenStep 4.1 machine (Intel) and on booting I convinced it it is alone in the world and not to try and find a netinfo parent. Now I am installing the WWDC 4.2 stuff and on boot up it insists that it eeds to wait for a non-existent netinfo parent out there and finally it times out and lets me hit a "c" to continue. I cannot remember what I did to overcome this last time. Any help? Thanks Chad
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: Apply "Set Font" (to selection), Edit.app changes entire file?? Date: 27 May 1997 09:14:03 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5me8kr$8jb$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <5md9vf$l8m$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In-Reply-To: <5md9vf$l8m$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> On 05/26/97, Edward N. Zalta wrote: >I don't use Edit.app and I have been unable to advise the visitor to my >lab >who wants to use it. He wants to change certain text in his RTF file to a >different and larger font. But when he selects the text, and then goes >through the Format menu to change the font, all the text in the file is >converted to a differ font. All the text is changed even when he selects >no text at all. > Can anyone please explain what to do? I guess I am missing something >simple, but looking through the Edit.app help files and through the various >menus and Preferences, I couldn't find any info to help him. > Please respond to kgn@meinong.stanford.edu. > Thanks. >Ed My guess is that although the user thinks the file is RTF it is actually a plain ASCII file (which can only have one font attribute applied to the entire document.) Load the file into Edit.app and use the Format->Text->Make Rich Text menu item to convert it to rich text and then try manipulating the fonts again. - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: liu@emerald.physics (Wei Liu) Subject: Install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on 3 GB large disk? Message-ID: <EAton1.8vI@info.physics.utoronto.ca> Sender: news@info.physics.utoronto.ca (System Administrator) Organization: University of Toronto - Dept. of Physics Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 04:33:01 GMT Hi, there: Anyone has such experience in installing NEXTSTEP OS 3.2 on a large SCSI disk bigger than 2GB? I know both /etc/disk and DiskBuilder have problem with that. And the CDROM installation won't help either. Following one of NEXTanswers on this issue, I was able to partition and initialize it by creating a disktab entry. Although it behaves all right as a file system, it seems it can't be booted even I moved every system file to this disk and wrote the /usr/standalone/boot into the boot sector. It just hangs ri ght after saying "root on sd0". Sometimes it even says no SCSI disk attached. Your help is greatly appreciated!! Wei
From: weesh@mindspring.com (Kenneth H. Wieschhoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] Novell spooled printers from NT Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 08:43:58 +0100 Organization: Siren Enterprises Message-ID: <weesh-2705970843590001@user-37kbc18.dialup.mindspring.com> I've recently installed OpenStep/NT on a Novell network with spooled HP LaserJet IIIsi's. When I try to print from an OpenStep app, I getthe message "<printer> is not supported. Please select a PostScript printer." Uh, this *is* a postscript printer. Any ideas? ->Ken
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command-line Webster? Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 05:46:24 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527054544.17194B-100000@kira> References: <3389CE83.7D08FD44@excell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Dayne Miller <daynem@excell.com> In-Reply-To: <3389CE83.7D08FD44@excell.com> On Mon, 26 May 1997, Dayne Miller wrote: > Is there any way to get command-line access to Digital Webster? It would > be very useful to me to be able to telnet to my NEXTSTEP box from > elsewhere and be able to look up definitions/synonyms. > > daynem@excell.com Yes it would be, but as far as I know there is no commandline way, although the topic has come up from time to time.... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone using 'expect' under OS/m 4.1 (Intel)? Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 07:01:30 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527065952.23714C-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If so, please drop me a note.... I'm getting ready to try & compile it & I want to make sure I've got all my ducks in a row, or if there is anything I need to know before compiling... I seem to recall getting a precompiled version before because of some problem I couldn't seem to overcome when trying to compile it myself... TjL
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: Apply "Set Font" (to selection), Edit.app changes entire file?? Date: 27 May 1997 16:18:37 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5mf1gt$ft$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5md9vf$l8m$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Edward N. Zalta (zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU) wrote: > I don't use Edit.app and I have been unable to advise the visitor to my lab > who wants to use it. He wants to change certain text in his RTF file to a > different and larger font. But when he selects the text, and then goes > through the Format menu to change the font, all the text in the file is > converted to a differ font. All the text is changed even when he selects no > text at all. This happens when it's not an RTF document at all. With Format -> Text -> Make Rich you turn the document into a rich text document. Then you can set font attributes according to your wishes. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command-line Webster? Message-ID: <338B1D4E.43AB@running-start.com> From: Ralph Zazula <zazula@running-start.com> Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 10:43:42 -0700 References: <3389CE83.7D08FD44@excell.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527054544.17194B-100000@kira> Organization: Running Start, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy Luoma wrote: > > On Mon, 26 May 1997, Dayne Miller wrote: > > > Is there any way to get command-line access to Digital Webster? It would > > be very useful to me to be able to telnet to my NEXTSTEP box from > > elsewhere and be able to look up definitions/synonyms. > > > > daynem@excell.com > > Yes it would be, but as far as I know there is no commandline way, > although the topic has come up from time to time.... > Actually, wasn't there a program called 'web' or maybe it was 'webster' that was available? I seem to recall being able to access the webster database from the command-line (however, I no longer have that machine around...). Try looking at the archives (although a search on 'web' nowadays isn't going to be fun :-) Ralph -- Ralph Zazula Running Start, Inc. zazula@running-start.com 520/760-4890 (4891 FAX) http://www.running-start.com
From: planetary <kris@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] Novell spooled printers from NT Date: 27 May 1997 12:16:56 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5mf8eo$3mk@xmission.xmission.com> References: <weesh-2705970843590001@user-37kbc18.dialup.mindspring.com> Kenneth H. Wieschhoff <weesh@mindspring.com> wrote: : I've recently installed OpenStep/NT on a Novell network with spooled HP : LaserJet IIIsi's. When I try to print from an OpenStep app, I getthe : message "<printer> is not supported. Please select a PostScript printer." : Uh, this *is* a postscript printer. Any ideas? I haven't been able to get this to work, either. I suspect that OpenStep apps on NT don't support Novell print queues. I will try a SMB printer next. But I suspect that it won't work, either. ..............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
From: markfr@markfr .cse.tek.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: OS Enterprise for NT? Date: 27 May 1997 17:51:26 GMT Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR USA Distribution: USA Message-ID: <5mf6uu$ghq$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> I have looked at Apple's web sites, but I just want to double check. Does anyone know if I develop an Openstep app using Enterprise on NT, will other users using NT be able to run the app without having openstep on their machines. Will the same be true for Windows 95? How easy is the integration with windows' DLLs? - Thanks for any help, Mark -- Mark Frank markfr@markfr.cse.tek.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: command-line Webster? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EAurHy.H7r@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 18:32:22 GMT References: <3389CE83.7D08FD44@excell.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527054544.17194B-100000@kira> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527054544.17194B-100000@kira>, Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > >Yes it would be, but as far as I know there is no commandline way, >although the topic has come up from time to time.... > Just to make you all envious... WEBSTER(1) User Commands WEBSTER(1) NAME webster - thesaurus or dictionary lookup for spelling, syn- onyms or definitions SYNOPSIS webster [-d] [-f] [-s] [-t] [words] NOTE Some words come out looking weird or incorrect, since your ascii terminal doesn't have all the characters that the dic- tionary on the NeXT machine server has. Yes, it's flaky. Yes, it uses someone's NeXT machine as a server, so don't abuse it. But yes, it's still useful. ... AUTHOR David A. Curry davy@ee.purdue.edu Extensions for the NeXT webster daemon (the -f and -t flags, and the WEBSTERHOST environment variable) by Steve Hayman sahayman@cs.indiana.edu I've CC'd this to Steve and will also ask the local maintainer here at Waterloo. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT as print server Date: 27 May 1997 23:49:00 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5mfrtc$mo2$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5mcq0n$nck@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> <19970526213300.RAA16187@ladder01.news.aol.com> Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19970526213300.RAA16187@ladder01.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > Here's an announcement on a package which I believe will do this > Thanks for the plug, but no need to repost the whole (old) announcement. ;-) Yes, CAPer can do this and more. See http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html for more information. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command-line Webster? Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 16:31:59 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527163022.11713B-100000@kira> References: <3389CE83.7D08FD44@excell.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527054544.17194B-100000@kira> <EAurHy.H7r@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca>, daynem@excell.com In-Reply-To: <EAurHy.H7r@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Hmm.. ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/educational/Webster.alpha5.README ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/educational/Webster.alpha5.s.README ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/educational/Webster.alpha5.s.tar.gz Is this the same thing? TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
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From: ultra@best.com (Scott Violet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Problems with serial ports under 4.1 Date: 27 May 1997 20:46:29 -0700 Organization: Best Internet Communications, Inc. - 415 964 BEST Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5mg9ql$5ne$1@shell2.ba.best.com> Hi, I know there has been some recent discussion about the differences between serial ports under 3.3 and 4.1 Mach on Intel. But I still can't get mine to work and am hoping that someone might have a clue what is up. I have a serial mouse on COM1 and the modem on Com2, I've added two serial port drivers and one tty port manager with two instances. When I try to tip/kermit to the device I get: /dev/cua: No such device link down Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, -Scott Violet (ultra@best.com)
From: Blake LeBaron <blake@ai.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OS Enterprise for NT? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 00:47:33 -0700 Organization: University of Wisconsin Message-ID: <338BE315.3227@ai.mit.edu> References: <5mf6uu$ghq$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I have looked at Apple's web sites, but I just want to double > check. Does anyone know if I develop an Openstep app using > Enterprise on NT, will other users using NT be able to run > the app without having openstep on their machines. Will the > same be true for Windows 95? How easy is the integration with > windows' DLLs? > This is a very good question which I'm curious about too. Please post the reply if you get one. Blake
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command-line Webster? Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:27:50 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <EAuG6F.6uv@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527054544.17194B-100000@kira> In article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527054544.17194B-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: > On Mon, 26 May 1997, Dayne Miller wrote: > > > Is there any way to get command-line access to Digital Webster? > as far as I know there is no commandline way, > although the topic has come up from time to time.... A command line websters client existed (I've got a copy somewhere), but it only compiled under 2.0. As a result, it runs under 3.X, but there is no way of compiling it for architectures other than 68K. $an
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command-line Webster? Date: 27 May 1997 23:41:17 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <5mfret$7bf@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <3389CE83.7D08FD44@excell.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527054544.17194B-100000@kira> <338B1D4E.43AB@running-start.com> Ralph Zazula <zazula@running-start.com> wrote: > Timothy Luoma wrote: > > On Mon, 26 May 1997, Dayne Miller wrote: > > > > > Is there any way to get command-line access to Digital Webster? > > > It would be very useful to me to be able to telnet to my > > > NEXTSTEP box from elsewhere and be able to look up > > > definitions/synonyms. > > > > Yes it would be, but as far as I know there is no commandline > > way, although the topic has come up from time to time.... > > Actually, wasn't there a program called 'web' or maybe it was > 'webster' that was available? There was a program called 'define' that worked under NS 2.x, but broke shortly thereafter. There is also a program called something else, possibly 'web' or 'webster', that is not quite as 'clean' (it formats the special pronunciation characters rather badly) but works just fine, at least on black. It came with source, which I got rid of, and I renamed it to 'define' because that was what I was used to using. I have the binary if anyone wants it, but it makes more sense to find it on one of the FTP sites and see whether it can be recompiled fat. How much deeper would |==================================================== the ocean be if sponges | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu didn't live there? |====================================================
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: roland@onevision.de (Roland Schwingel) Subject: NFS-Automounting from WIN NT (Hummingbird NFS) Message-ID: <EAvts0.F5@onevision.de> Keywords: nfs,automount,nextstep,nt Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 08:19:12 GMT Hello, I am currently evaluting the Hummingbird NFS Server for Win NT4.0 on our NT Server. I am in need to export some drives from NT to our NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Machines via NFS. I have exported the drives in netinfo domain / with bg,net,timeo=6 option to /Net. With 4.1 and up there is no problem with automounting them. With 3.3 (half of our machines) I can not automount that drives. It is just not working. No error nothing. Just a few seconds of spinning mousecursor. But I can do a 'mount -t nfs ntserver:/d/test /test' on 3.3. What is not working is automounting... My NFS setup is correct. Mounting by hand works every time on every version of the operationg system I have handy. Any ideas? I need to mount them. Or has anyone a better suggestion for a NT NFS server software? Thanks, Roland -- ============================================================================ Roland Schwingel OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Developer, SysAdmin Zeissstrasse 9 Email:roland@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ============================================================================
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs for NextStep wheres the latest? Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 19:30:51 +0200 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <338B1A4B.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970526112020.4291B-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de> Konstantin Wiesel wrote: > > Can somebody please direct me to a site where i can download the latest > Emacs for NextStep? > > Regards > Konstantin Wiesel > Email:kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/editor/Emacs_for_NeXTstep.4.12.NS3.3p1.README gruss stefan -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: "Bruce J. Dolby" <B.Dolby@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Resize a gif (the hard way) Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:10:26 +0100 Organization: Alcatel SEL Message-ID: <338BF682.711D@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi gif experts, I have a gif picture and I would like to resize it. My problems is that want to do this from the command line. Are there any tools out there and where can I find them? Thanks BJD
From: ballweb@peak.org (Brian Ballweber) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS on SPARC/IPC Date: 28 May 1997 09:06:30 GMT Organization: Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Corvallis,US Message-ID: <5mgsim$9uv$1@bashir.peak.org> References: <33860B48.5EF7@antrg.azn.nl> <3389FCB5.68F1@antrg.azn.nl> Maurice van Steensel (m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl) wrote: : Thanks for the answer; I have this IPC at work and have to use SunOS on : it:(. I'll try and install Solaris or something. Pity it won't run NS : though. You can do something similar. You can run OpenStep under Solaris on an IPC. I am running it right now on a SS1+, equivalent to your IPC. Its no rocket of course, and its a given that Solaris is a memory hog, but it does work and it looks great (alot better than Open Look for sure). Things you will need are at least 32megs of ram tho and mabye 50-100meg of disk. You will also need Solaris 2.4 or 2.5. Check out: http://www.sun.com/solaris/products/openstep/ You can download OpenStep v1.0 for Sparc from there (about 15 to 20meg download). - Brian
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to get OpenStep to stop waiting for NetInfo parent? Date: 28 May 1997 12:22:49 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5mh82p$lav$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <chad-2605972352090001@sverige.pengar.com> Cc: chad@pengar.com In <chad-2605972352090001@sverige.pengar.com> Chad Leigh wrote: > A few weeks ago I set up an OpenStep 4.1 machine (Intel) and on booting I > convinced it it is alone in the world and not to try and find a netinfo > parent. > > Now I am installing the WWDC 4.2 stuff and on boot up it insists that it > eeds to wait for a non-existent netinfo parent out there and finally it > times out and lets me hit a "c" to continue. I cannot remember what I did > to overcome this last time. Any help? Thanks > If it it still the same procedure as in 3.3 just start up HostManager.app and switch it to standalone, enter an IP & other data, reboot. Don't forget to update the hosts (enter your own IP and hostname). -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: command-line Webster? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 07:10:37 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528070659.12508C-100000@kira> References: <3389CE83.7D08FD44@excell.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527054544.17194B-100000@kira> <338B1D4E.43AB@running-start.com> <5mfret$7bf@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Joshua W. Burton" <jburton@nwu.edu> In-Reply-To: <5mfret$7bf@news.acns.nwu.edu> > There was a program called 'define' that worked under NS 2.x, but > broke shortly thereafter. There is also a program called something > else, possibly 'web' or 'webster', that is not quite as 'clean' (it > formats the special pronunciation characters rather badly) but works > just fine, at least on black. It came with source, which I got rid > of, and I renamed it to 'define' because that was what I was used > to using. I have the binary if anyone wants it, but it makes more > sense to find it on one of the FTP sites and see whether it can be > recompiled fat. the source is -- partly -- at peak: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/misc/define2.0.N.bs.README ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/misc/define2.0.N.bs.tar.gz however the readme says "To compile the program from the source, you will need to obtain libtext.a and libbtree.a from NeXT Tech Support. Don't ask me for them, please....." So I do not think it would work under non-m68k platforms... unless NeXT made fat versions of these two files, which I doubt, and even if they did I'm not sure they'd still be handing them out.... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS May Quiz - hints, new rules, deadline extended Date: 28 May 1997 16:50:12 GMT Organization: Customer of EUnet/PING Austria Message-ID: <5mhno4$1gi$1@news.Austria.EU.net> Last call (!) for the SSS May quiz on http://members.ping.at/stefan/quiz.html Drawing rules have been changed on the fly - you now have a chance to win with only 1/3 or 2/3 correct answers. The more you get right, the better your odds are. And the May quiz page now contains THREE HINTS! The deadline has been extended from June 1 to June 15. As always, the winners will receive a free HelpViewer 1.3 or LatinByrd II/III license, or alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software (including SuperDraw, SuperDebugger, and others). And here's even TWO MORE HINTS: 1) No, #1 is not Steve Jobs. 2) No, #2 is not Steve Wozniak. Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://members.ping.at/stefan/
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Digital Librarian (3.1) Indexing WriteNow files Date: 28 May 1997 18:33:31 GMT Message-ID: <19970528183300.OAA03979@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com I just downloaded the King James Bible from ftp.peak.org, and it was in WriteNow format, and wouldn't index in Librarian--I'm guessing this is because NeXT dropped support for the WriteNow format with 3.0? Is there a version in .RTF anywhere yet? If not, once I've resaved everything as .RTF, would people be interested in my uploading this somewhere? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Librarian usage and 100 Tips file Date: 28 May 1997 18:36:32 GMT Message-ID: <19970528183600.OAA04208@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com I found a NeXTStep 100 Tips file on ftp.peak.org, but it wasn't intelligible on my box--I'm guess it's in some foreign language? Does anyone have a translated copy? Would someone who can read it and English like to collaborate on a translation? The big thing here is I'm planning on starting to use Librarian to organise 20+MBs of files I've had lying around on my PC and was hoping for some tips/suggestions/strategies for how to do this--the funny thing is I'll probably want to leave them in a form that my PC will find intelligible so I can copy them into usenet posts, e-mail and my web pages... William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: bettis@inetnebr.com (Mr. Jeremy Bettis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OS Enterprise for NT? Date: 28 May 1997 14:18:15 -0500 Organization: Internet Nebraska Distribution: USA Message-ID: <5mi0dn$t0i$1@falcon.inetnebr.com> References: <5mf6uu$ghq$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> NNTP-Posting-User: bettis markfr@markfr .cse.tek.com writes: >I have looked at Apple's web sites, but I just want to double >check. Does anyone know if I develop an Openstep app using >Enterprise on NT, will other users using NT be able to run >the app without having openstep on their machines. Will the >same be true for Windows 95? How easy is the integration with >windows' DLLs? Nope. All OpenStep Enterprise for Windows NT programs require the OpenStep runtime. I have not seen a price list for this but it was $799 retail before the WWDC. I heard it was lowered some.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OS Enterprise for NT? Date: 28 May 1997 19:22:45 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5mi0m5$kev$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5mf6uu$ghq$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> <5mi0dn$t0i$1@falcon.inetnebr.com> In-Reply-To: <5mi0dn$t0i$1@falcon.inetnebr.com> On 05/28/97, Mr. Jeremy Bettis wrote: >markfr@markfr .cse.tek.com writes: >>I have looked at Apple's web sites, but I just want to double >>check. Does anyone know if I develop an Openstep app using >>Enterprise on NT, will other users using NT be able to run >>the app without having openstep on their machines. Will the >>same be true for Windows 95? How easy is the integration with >>windows' DLLs? > >Nope. All OpenStep Enterprise for Windows NT programs require the >OpenStep runtime. > >I have not seen a price list for this but it was $799 retail before the >WWDC. I heard it was lowered some. > Its important to note also that when Rhapsody ships the Runtime costs drop to ZERO. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New NFS Client for NextStep, OS 4.1, O.S 4.2 Date: 28 May 1997 16:28:49 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5mhmg1$bko$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> References: <864458820.17741@dejanews.com> Benoit.Marchant@questintl.com wrote: > Hi, > > I experience troubles using an NT Server as a file server througth NFS > with OpenStep 4.1 Clients. > > Other people got the same troubles with SGI servers. I rode in this > thread that NeXT had a patch for it ? NeXT, is it correct ? If it is not > possible to be supported by NeXT itself, would it be possible for someone > with that knowledge and a bit of time to adapt the NFS Client of Linux > for which source code is available to NeXTSTEP/OpenStep for Mach ? > There is a possible way, but it would need some work. You could implement a NFS to NFS mapper (like rumba or afpmount does for other protocols), however the performance would not be as good as the original NFS client as the data is pumped though the kernel twice. But it would be a better idea to make the patch public. --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
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From: Brennan Hildebrand <brennanh@pacbell.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: ISDN under NS intel? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:06:04 -0700 Organization: A customer of Pacific Bell Internet Services Message-ID: <338D1CCC.7525B52A@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got an ISDN box connected to my intel pentium based machine running NS 4.2 (prelude to rhapsody) over a serial connection. I can't seem to figure out how to use the thing with pppd and chat. Has anyone done this before? I assume that someone must have. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -brennan
From: Brennan Hildebrand <brennanh@pacbell.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: ISDN under NS? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:58:05 -0700 Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Message-ID: <338D1AED.3974DD14@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got an ISDN box connected to my intel pentium based machine running NS 4.2 (prelude to rhapsody) over a serial connection. I can't seem to figure out how to use the thing with pppd and chat. Has anyone done this before? I assume that someone must have. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -brennan
From: Brennan Hildebrand <brennanh@pacbell.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: ISDN under NS? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:00:22 -0700 Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Message-ID: <338D1B76.CF488611@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got an ISDN box connected to my intel pentium based machine running NS 4.2 (prelude to rhapsody) over a serial connection. I can't seem to figure out how to use the thing with pppd and chat. Has anyone done this before? I assume that someone must have. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -brennan
From: Brennan Hildebrand <brennanh@pacbell.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: ISDN under NS? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:58:27 -0700 Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Message-ID: <338D1B03.6DE8FB48@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got an ISDN box connected to my intel pentium based machine running NS 4.2 (prelude to rhapsody) over a serial connection. I can't seem to figure out how to use the thing with pppd and chat. Has anyone done this before? I assume that someone must have. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -brennan
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From: Brennan Hildebrand <brennanh@pacbell.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: ISDN under NS? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:00:06 -0700 Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Message-ID: <338D1B66.8CA9AE58@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got an ISDN box connected to my intel pentium based machine running NS 4.2 (prelude to rhapsody) over a serial connection. I can't seem to figure out how to use the thing with pppd and chat. Has anyone done this before? I assume that someone must have. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -brennan
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Digital Librarian (3.1) Indexing WriteNow files Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:01:35 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528153355.26507C-100000@kira> References: <19970528183300.OAA03979@ladder02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: WillAdams <willadams@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <19970528183300.OAA03979@ladder02.news.aol.com> I've got it in ascii from a long time ago.... makes it easier to search in Terminal.app ... there's a commandline thing 'wn2rtf' that will do the conversions for you TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: bettis@inetnebr.com (Mr. Jeremy Bettis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OS Enterprise for NT? Date: 28 May 1997 18:25:28 -0500 Organization: Internet Nebraska Message-ID: <5miet8$kvv$1@falcon.inetnebr.com> References: <5mf6uu$ghq$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> <5mi0dn$t0i$1@falcon.inetnebr.com> <5mi0m5$kev$1@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-User: bettis sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: > Its important to note also that when Rhapsody ships the >Runtime costs drop to ZERO. On WinNT? Deploying a product on Rapsody is going to be just as hard as NeXTSTEP was. No one will want it unless they can run all of their favorite Winders programs on the same computer.
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ISDN under NS? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:57:12 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528174740.11677E-100000@kira> References: <338D1AED.3974DD14@pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Brennan Hildebrand <brennanh@pacbell.net> In-Reply-To: <338D1AED.3974DD14@pacbell.net> {frown} Hrm... a crossposted message posted twice... What version of the OS are you using? What version of PPP? Have you been able to connect using tip and/or kermit? More info needed... in csn.software, please ;-) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 trouble on 486 Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:18:23 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970528201710.14232A-100000@saul3.u.washington.edu> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970526185324.1634A-100000@saul5.u.washington.edu> <Pine.OSF.3.95.970526205442.13694A-100000@saul2.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970526205442.13694A-100000@saul2.u.washington.edu> Predicate: Whose triangle is it? On Mon, 26 May 1997, Ray Stricklin wrote: > The actual error reads more like > > biosread error 0x10 @ 0, C:0 H:0 S:0 The problem seems to have stemmed from a bad block at the very beginning of the disk (block 9). I low-level formatted the disk with an intelligent formatter (i.e. one that marks bad blocks), reinstalled, and everything's fine. Thanks for your suggestions. ok -r
From: brennanh@pacbell.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ISDN under NS? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 29 May 1997 03:20:39 GMT Organization: Hildebrand Consulting Distribution: world Message-ID: <5mism7$hcg$1@news3.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <338D1AED.3974DD14@pacbell.net> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528174740.11677E-100000@kira> Keywords: ISDN Cc: luomat@peak.org NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528174740.11677E-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma wrote: > > {frown} Hrm... a crossposted message posted twice... Yup, sorry. I was using a win 95 box that kept telling me it wasn't being sent. > What version of the OS are you using? 4.2 (prelude to rhapsody) > What version of PPP? pppd -help returns me "version 2.2 patch level 0beta3" > > Have you been able to connect using tip and/or kermit? Only to the modem on cufb, haven't tried ISDN on cufa > More info needed... in csn.software, please ;-) I don't know what else I can tell you, besides that I'm using a 3Com ImpactIQ. It works under win95. Thanks much, -brennan
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OS Enterprise for NT? Date: 29 May 1997 03:44:50 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5miu3i$146$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5mf6uu$ghq$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> <5mi0dn$t0i$1@falcon.inetnebr.com> <5mi0m5$kev$1@news.digifix.com> <5miet8$kvv$1@falcon.inetnebr.com> In-Reply-To: <5miet8$kvv$1@falcon.inetnebr.com> On 05/28/97, Mr. Jeremy Bettis wrote: >sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: >> Its important to note also that when Rhapsody ships the >>Runtime costs drop to ZERO. > >On WinNT? Deploying a product on Rapsody is going to be just >as hard as NeXTSTEP was. No one will want it unless they can run >all of their favorite Winders programs on the same computer. > I question this assertion... but I believe this is only made because you don't understand what the Runtime is... First off, the Runtime costs I was discussing are for NT. Secondly, they can run whatever app they want beside it since OpenStep/NT is the OpenStep/APIs on the NT Operating System. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Anyone using Ping.app under 4.x? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 18:04:06 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528175957.11677F-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ping.app crashes immediately on launch under OS/mach 4.1 gdb reports this: GDB 4.14 (NEXTSTEP 4.0 --target i386), Copyright 1995 Free Software Foundation, Inc... Reading symbols from /LocalApps/Ping.app/Ping...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/shlib/libni_s.A.shlib...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/shlib/libMedia_s.A.shlib...done. Reading symbols from /usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib...done. Reading symbols from /usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib...done. (gdb) run Starting program: /LocalApps/Ping.app/Ping Program exited normally. No stack. (gdb) q has anyone else been able to use it under 4.1? Thanks TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: OS Enterprise for NT? Message-ID: <EAws0y.7y@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <338BE315.3227@ai.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:38:58 GMT In article <338BE315.3227@ai.mit.edu> Blake LeBaron <blake@ai.mit.edu> writes: > > > > I have looked at Apple's web sites, but I just want to double > > check. Does anyone know if I develop an Openstep app using > > Enterprise on NT, will other users using NT be able to run > > the app without having openstep on their machines. Will the > > same be true for Windows 95? How easy is the integration with > > windows' DLLs? > > > > This is a very good question which I'm curious about too. Please > post the reply if you get one. > > Blake Openstep apps will need a "run time environment". W95/NT users are familiar with this. If they want to run a VB app, they also need a "run time environment". This "run time environment" consists of a numbner of DLL's that can be installed by your setup script. For VB these DLL's are free. For Openstep they are not yet free, but Apple did promise they will be free soon. hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: Resize a gif (the hard way) Message-ID: <EAwsu3.8p@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <338BF682.711D@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:56:27 GMT In article <338BF682.711D@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> "Bruce J. Dolby" <B.Dolby@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> writes: > Hi gif experts, > > I have a gif picture and I would like to resize it. > My problems is that want to do this from the command line. > Are there any tools out there and where can I find them? > > > Thanks > > BJD - Install the RLE toolkit (Utah Raster toolkit). You can find it on most archives. - Try to understand the "fant" command. - build a commandline that looks like "giftorle | fant | rletogif". This is not the actual command, but it should give you the general idea: convert your image format to RLE; apply any filter you need; and convert it back from RLE to your original format. If your on a Mac: Debabylizer hides the pipe described above, but it does not give you a "command line". hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl
From: jin@ghost.nuri.net (Jin Ko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] Floppy Search on Boot Time Date: 29 May 1997 06:08:59 GMT Organization: HanNuri Internet Service Message-ID: <5mj6hr$939$1@news.nuri.net> I'm using OPENSTEP4.1 on my IBM ThinkPad560, which has detachable floppy diskette drive. Usually, I use this Laptop without the floppy drive. But, whenever I boot the system without the floppy drive, OPENSTEP seeks for floppy drive for three times and at last, it gives it up with "TIME OUT" message(I could see this with "-v" boot option) and goes on with other boot process. The wasted time for the floppy checking is just a few minutes but I feel it too long... :( Does anybody know how to adjust the boot time floppy check stuff? I want to reduce the number of trials to only one time if possible. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mailto:jin@nuri.net Jin Ko http://ghost.nuri.net/ Network Engineering Team phone:+82-2-531-7924 (fax:+82-2-555-8127) Inet, Inc.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: nevermind -- Re: Anyone using Ping.app under 4.x? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:43:29 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528224245.26437B-100000@kira> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528175957.11677F-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528175957.11677F-100000@kira> One of the nibs wasn't readable.... fixed... TjL
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From: schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Digital Librarian (3.1) Indexing WriteNow files Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 11:06:40 +0100 Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <schumach-2905971106410001@129.194.16.72> References: <19970528183300.OAA03979@ladder02.news.aol.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528153355.26507C-100000@kira> > there's a commandline thing 'wn2rtf' that will do the conversions for you > > TjL > > > -- > TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ > "The best things in life are made into inferior > versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" > NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked Where could this be found? J. Schumacher Geneva Switzerland
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New NFS Client for NextStep, OS 4.1, O.S 4.2 Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 11:25:49 +0200 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <338D4B9D.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <864458820.17741@dejanews.com> <5mhmg1$bko$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank M. Siegert wrote: > > Benoit.Marchant@questintl.com wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I experience troubles using an NT Server as a file server througth NFS > > with OpenStep 4.1 Clients. > > > > Other people got the same troubles with SGI servers. I rode in this > > thread that NeXT had a patch for it ? NeXT, is it correct ? If it is not > > possible to be supported by NeXT itself, would it be possible for someone > > with that knowledge and a bit of time to adapt the NFS Client of Linux > > for which source code is available to NeXTSTEP/OpenStep for Mach ? > > > > There is a possible way, but it would need some work. You could implement a > NFS to NFS mapper (like rumba or afpmount does for other protocols), however > the performance would not be as good as the original NFS client as the data > is pumped though the kernel twice. > > But it would be a better idea to make the patch public. The author of vmount Christian Starkjohann <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> has already ported the linux nfsd to NeXTStep. Contact him for further information. This might be a good solution for mounting from NT-NFS. (I haven't any NT experience) The problems of missing diretory entries mounting something from SGI (xfs-volume) to NeXT can only be solved by a patched version of NeXT's mach kernel or a new nfsd on the SGI ! NeXT has already such a patch but it brokes other unix commands (like install) and so this patch is available to two of their main customers only. (I really tried to get it, no chance, NeXT has not ever one man for a few days to check it out. They all are doing Rhapsody... of cause it is promised to be fixed there) Sometimes NeXT is confused by arranging the nfs buffersizes. This can be solved by higher values for rsize/wsize options of the mount command (NFS mount from NeXT to Solaris or SGI (some patchlevel)). The problem may appear similar to that with SGI in the first view. However the SGI problem is really a fundamental thing and cannot be solved by buffer sizes. Stefan ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: stephlise@telco.com (Steph & Lise) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:38:19 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.336b11fa.7056818@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Subject: cmsg cancel <336b11fa.7056818@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Control: cancel <336b11fa.7056818@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Thu May 29 11:25:14 1997 Original subject was: Cum visit our free BBS
From: weesh@mindspring.com (Kenneth H. Wieschhoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mounting NTFS volumes from OpenStep Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 06:54:34 +0100 Organization: Siren Enterprises Message-ID: <weesh-2905970654340001@user-37kbv53.dialup.mindspring.com> Hi, I'm a newbie running rampant with the Prelude To Rhapsody CD..... Can I mount NTFS partitions from OpenStep/Mach under 4.2? PTR came with a dearth of documentation, so would this be documented somewhere online? ->Ken
From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone using Ping.app under 4.x? Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 11:28:10 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <864905290.16827.0.nnrp-3.c30b1c09@news.demon.co.uk> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528175957.11677F-100000@kira> In article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528175957.11677F-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: > > Ping.app crashes immediately on launch under OS/mach 4.1 > > has anyone else been able to use it under 4.1? > > Thanks > TjL Hi, Works for us in 4.0/4.1/4.2b/4.2g --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc | UK phone: 01702 426400 | Vendors of NS/OS 351 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | MCCAs, Hardware Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | Apps, Networks Essex | | ISDN, Training SS7 2BT | Email: david@onestep.co.uk | Maintenance England | (NeXTMail/MIME ok) | and Support
From: juergen.albertsen@flensburg.netsurf.de (Juergen Albertsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OS Enterprise for NT? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 18:22:54 GMT Organization: Private Message-ID: <338c70b5.4237593@news.allcon.net> References: <5mf6uu$ghq$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> >I have looked at Apple's web sites, but I just want to double >check. Does anyone know if I develop an Openstep app using >Enterprise on NT, will other users using NT be able to run >the app without having openstep on their machines. [...] Anyone who wants to be able to run an OpenStep application on its box has to install the OpenStep deployment version (on the same CD as your development version). > [..] Will the >same be true for Windows 95? How easy is the integration with >windows' DLLs? Starting with OpenStep 4.2 you will also be able to run your apps on Win95 (but not to develop them). OpenStep DLLs don't intefer with Win DLLs. Personally, I like the fact that they reside in a sparate directory, rather than in the depths of the windows directories. Regards, Jürgen --- Jürgen Albertsen juergen.albertsen@flensburg.netsurf.de Face the facts -- forget euphoria!
Date: 29 May 1997 10:06:22 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <cancel.338CDFD9.4298@bayarea.net> Control: cancel <338CDFD9.4298@bayarea.net> From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: George Lurker <georgel@bayarea.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <338CDFD9.4298@bayarea.net> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970529.05 for further details
From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Video thru DSP for cubes ? Date: 27 May 1997 17:33:46 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5mf5tq$19dc@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5m7jq4$eov@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: >Is there a way to get video to a cube from the DSP Buy a DigitalEye or Color DigitalEye. Plugs into the DSP port and works on all NeXT hardware. It was made by MetaResearch but is no longer marketed. Perhaps you can pick up one used. >and to use some alternative to NeXTTIME? Why? What are your needs? There are various movie players that play different formats, but none other than NeXTTIME that do synchronous sound and video that I'm aware of. - Gareth
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Digital Librarian (3.1) Indexing WriteNow files Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 08:11:58 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970529081110.13496C-100000@kira> References: <19970528183300.OAA03979@ladder02.news.aol.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528153355.26507C-100000@kira> <schumach-2905971106410001@129.194.16.72> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Jorg Schumacher <schumach@uni2a.unige.ch> In-Reply-To: <schumach-2905971106410001@129.194.16.72> On Thu, 29 May 1997, Jorg Schumacher wrote: > > there's a commandline thing 'wn2rtf' that will do the conversions for you > > Where could this be found? Inside the WriteNow.app wrapper, I believe... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) Subject: Converting NeXT-created graphics images to Mac compatible files? Message-ID: <edewEAyA0J.6KC@netcom.com> Sender: edew@netcom15.netcom.com Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 16:05:07 GMT Hello NeXT folks. I think my question is often asked, so if there's an FAQ, please suggest one (can't web browse it, though). I'm creating a bunch of graphics files using Diagram! and Draw from my NeXT machine at home. I need to print these files and put them into a program book, so I would like to keep as high a resolution as possible. I've tried saving the files as .eps files. But Adobe Photoshop on a Mac won't open it. Too many __NXdef's and such. I've also tried saving it as a .ps file. The trouble is that it won't print the fonts, even though I'm sure the Apple has the fonts I'm using (zapf Dingbats and brush script -- which incidentally, I "procured" from my brother's Mac). I can save the files as .tiff files, but then the resolution sucks big time. I haven't bothered to save the files as jpgs primarily because I KNOW the resolution would be bad. Is there some freeware utility that can convert a .eps file created on a NeXT machine to a .eps file that can be read from other OSes? I create the .ps files by clicking on print, and then on the save button. Then I choose either device independent postscript (which prints it) or chosen printer/include fonts, which WON'T display on a Mac. You can reply to this ng, but I would prefer if you email the suggestions to me at edew@netcom.com. Thanks in advance. EDEW
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Seek PhoneKit.app Message-ID: <EAxzp4.6AC@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5m8nlh$ak5@slip.net> Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 12:22:16 GMT In article <5m8nlh$ak5@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes: > Hi, > > If anyone has PhoneKit.app handy and would be > kind enought to E-mail a uuencoded version > it would be really terrific. > > Apparently it came on some version of NeXTSTEP. > > It is not at ftp.next.peak.org. > > I just purchased an ISDN Extender which uses it. > PhoneKit was part of NS 3.0 and was discontinued thereafter. Since the upgrade from NS 3.0 to NS 3.1 included a major change in the kernel libs the PhoneKit libs would not run on later versions. You need NS 3.0 User to make it work. And I have to pur some vinager in your wine, too. PhoneKit was discontinued while in some kind of prerelease state. Although there were bold plans to extend it to European ISDN standards which had the oly considerable deployment at that time the necessary extensions have never been done. Thus, PhoneKit only supports two rather obscure PBXes from NorthernTelecom and AT&T. Sad but true, the Hayes ISDN Extender is only a collectors item (I also own one!). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: command-line Webster? Message-ID: <EAxz5w.69K@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5mfret$7bf@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 12:10:43 GMT In article <5mfret$7bf@news.acns.nwu.edu> jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: > Ralph Zazula <zazula@running-start.com> wrote: > > Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 May 1997, Dayne Miller wrote: > > > > > > > Is there any way to get command-line access to Digital Webster? > > > > It would be very useful to me to be able to telnet to my > > > > NEXTSTEP box from elsewhere and be able to look up > > > > definitions/synonyms. > > > > > > Yes it would be, but as far as I know there is no commandline > > > way, although the topic has come up from time to time.... > > > > Actually, wasn't there a program called 'web' or maybe it was > > 'webster' that was available? > > There was a program called 'define' that worked under NS 2.x, but > broke shortly thereafter. There is also a program called something > else, possibly 'web' or 'webster', that is not quite as 'clean' (it > formats the special pronunciation characters rather badly) but works > just fine, at least on black. It came with source, which I got rid > of, and I renamed it to 'define' because that was what I was used > to using. I have the binary if anyone wants it, but it makes more > sense to find it on one of the FTP sites and see whether it can be > recompiled fat. > Not only that it can't be compiled for other architectures as you can't get all the header files necessary for a compile the utility assumes old DigitalLibririan format. Since in NS 3.1 the indexing library has been changed considerably this binary would only run on Webster libraries prior to NS 3.1. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: lennart@triumph.holland.sun.com (Lennart Broekhof) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next tapetool Date: 29 May 1997 17:04:20 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <5mkcuk$4fd@flonk.uk.sun.com> Does anybody know if there is a tapetool available for NeXT 3.2 in combination with a DAT recorder ? I was thinking of a tool with wich it is easy to make a dump or complete backup. Regards, Lennart
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Cubx License? Date: 29 May 1997 18:11:42 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <5mkgsu$90o$1@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <5m5ehc$os3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Cc: coao@ceta-cpq1.mit.edu In <5m5ehc$os3@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Chi On Ao wrote: % Hi, % % I have just got an old copy of Cub' X-Window (v3.1) but found that it % required a license number specific to my computer's hostid. I have not been % able to contact the appropriate source for the license number. Does anyone % know where I could turn to? Many thanks in advance. % % Chi Ao % % From CubX' help file : „Cub'X-Window v5.0 A quick description Cub'X-Window v5.0 provides a true X11R6 client/server architecture for NEXTSTEP on NeXT, Intel, HP PA-RISC and Sun SPARCstations. Cub'X-Window integrates into NEXTSTEP the capabilities of an X Terminal, and also provides all tools to port or develop X applications locally on NEXTSTEP. Cub'X-Window bundles numerous popular X clients (XV, Mosaic...) and window managers (Motif...) already pre-compiled and ready to use. „Cub'X-Window v5.0 runs on NEXTSTEP v3.x for NeXT hardware, Intel based platforms, HP PA -RISC computers and SUN SPARCstations. Cub'X-Window v5.0 is not compatible with the NeXT Dimension board. For more Information, please contact: Intuitive Systems, Inc. 599 N. Mathilda Avenue Suite 19 Sunnyvale, CA 94086 USA tel: 408 245 8540 fax: 408 245 8541 cubx@intuisys.com (NeXTmail welcome) Regards, ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for lisp Date: 29 May 1997 22:45:08 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5ml0tk$gft@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 May 1997 22:45:08 GMT I'm trying to save myself some work here and would appreciate receiving a black-hardware compiled version of common lisp, or pointers to same. I have the original Allegro for NeXT diskettes, but my #2 has become damaged so I can't restore from it, and I'm not even sure if I can compile it under 4.0 -- has anyone tried? The other possibility is kcl or its successor gcl. A compiled version for any Next/OpenStep version from 3.0 on up would be great. NeXTMail is fine, or tell me where I can retrieve it. (BTW, I've tried compiling gcl from the source, but it requires a higher version of gcc than was shipped with OpenStep 4.0, and when I tried to get gcc updated I ran into some kind of corrupted tar file problem -- yes I did do a binary transfer! Has anyone managed to install gcc-2.7.2.2 on black hardware? I guess I'll give it another shot later, but I'm losing my patience right now!) Thanks! -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: looking for lisp Date: 29 May 1997 23:10:44 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5ml2dk$han@news.tamu.edu> References: <5ml0tk$gft@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 May 1997 23:10:44 GMT Colin Allen <colin@snaefell.tamu.edu> wrote: >I'm trying to save myself some work here and would appreciate >receiving a black-hardware compiled version of common lisp, or >pointers to same. Found a precompiled CLISP from via ftp from ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de in /pub/lisp/clisp/binaries/m68k-next/clisp.tar.z Worked like a breeze! Thanks Marcus! -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: toth.22@osu.edu (Jerek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Logging in with used hdd Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 01:38:35 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <toth.22.559.338E2F9B@osu.edu> Hi folks, I just installed a used hdd on my Nextstation and it keeps on asking for a user name and password. Is there a way to get around this? Thanks Spam-proof email... <*remove the '##' in my email address*>
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: format of NXDateAndTime dwrite? Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 18:39:44 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970529183439.21390A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII YFtp complains 'default NXDateAndTime missing' I set it to GLOBAL NXDateAndTime "%a %b %d %H:%M:%S %Z %Y" What controls that dwrite?? TjL
From: stephlise@telco.com (Steph&Lise.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FREE HOT PICTURES HOT! Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 21:56:15 GMT Organization: Steph&Lise. Message-ID: <998b11fa.7056818@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Free Adult Internet Connection Worldwide Via Our Bbs. Follow the link and enjoy... http://cybercity.hko.net/la/interbbs/freenet/free.htm s.tar.gz, currently in the new_arrivals directory). Thanks to Paul Sanchez for packaging these fonts. They work very well with TeX. I'm also interested in making the fonts work with other NextStep programs, though, like Openwrite.app. Is it possible to edit the font files to make the fonts work with both TeX and NextStep programs? Does anyone have experience messing around with those font files? I looked, but couldn't make much sense of the ascii files. Thanks! It'd be nice to have access to Computer Modern fonts in my standard NeXT apps. -jamey -- ********************************************************************** Jamey Nielsen hm (415) 960-1608 Terman 554 nielsen@leland.stanford.edu wk (415) 725-1597 ME Design Division http://www.stanford.edu/~nielsen/ Stanford, CA 94305
From: arzt@isc.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Alternate "from" address in NeXTMail? Date: 30 May 1997 03:42:42 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <5mlibi$ap0@netnews.upenn.edu> Folks, Any way for an individual user of NeXTMail 3.3 to configure for an alternate outbound address ("from", not "reply-to") for mail? I know how to change it system-wide in the sendmail.cf file, but many desktop mail clients allow users to fudge the outbound address. I don't see how to do it under NeXTmail. Thanks in advance. Please respond via email. -- Dr. Noam H. Arzt 215/898-3029 (voice) University of Pennsylvania 215/898-9348 (FAX) Executive Director, Administration, Info Systems & Information Technology Architecture, Computing (ISC) and Network Services Research Associate/Senior Fellow Leonard Davis Institute
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5ml0tk$gft@news.tamu.edu> Control: cancel <5ml0tk$gft@news.tamu.edu> Date: 30 May 1997 03:45:53 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5mlihh$r7t@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 May 1997 03:45:53 GMT <5ml0tk$gft@news.tamu.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Alternate "from" address in NeXTMail? Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 06:19:10 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970530061509.20589D-100000@kira> References: <5mlibi$ap0@netnews.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Noam H. Arzt" <arzt@isc.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <5mlibi$ap0@netnews.upenn.edu> If you _must_ crosspost, please be kind enough to set a Followups-To: line... If you are using 3.3 or later, use the 'expert' setting in Mail.app preferences to enter a new header such as From "Not Me" <someone@somwhere.com> (Note: there is no colon after the 'From' and whatever is not in the < > should be in " " marks....Does not _have to be unless you have some punct or other thing that might confuse a mailer ,but you might as well... If you are using 3.2 or lower you'd have to use some sort of alternate mailer.... you'd need a sed script which I probably have from many moon ago... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: fpottier@pauillac.inria.fr (Francois Pottier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 30 May 1997 18:32:40 GMT Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt, BP 105, 78153 Le Chesnay Cedex, France Message-ID: <5mn6g8$q4j@news-rocq.inria.fr> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <3379B914.887@sapir.ling.yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: In article <3379B914.887@sapir.ling.yale.edu>, Stephen R. Anderson <anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu> wrote: >I didn't notice any mention of "academic bundle" pricing in Apple's >press release about OS 4.2. Does anyone know if this policy will >continue for 4.2 (and any future pre-rhapsody versions)? I asked them (by email) about the academic version, and the answer is: the 4.2 academic bundle (user+developer) is at $299. Sounds like a great deal compared to the regular $5000. -- François Pottier Francois.Pottier@inria.fr http://pauillac.inria.fr/~fpottier/
From: kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPD file for HPLJ4? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 15:15:35 GMT Organization: University of Stirling Message-ID: <970528161535.1871AAFCo.kjt@copper> References: <EAI1zu.Jot@ecf.toronto.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII As far as I know PPD files are not really platform specific, so you should be able download a suitable one via from www.adobe.com. Ken Turner <kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk>
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From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5mneod$sb4@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Date: 30 May 1997 20:54:02 GMT Control: cancel <5mneod$sb4@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5mneod$sb4@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Sender: k2e17wty@fia.net Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: MARYWORLD Original Subject: Send 1 Milllion Emails an Hour Is this cancel message showing up on an email list? If so, please see: http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/news_gateway.html
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Prelude WebObjects serial number? Date: 30 May 97 17:53:10 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFB4C48B-1201E2@141.214.134.235> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.programmer, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.mac.advocacy I just finished installing the Prelude WebObjects stuff (on Mach) and it's now asking me for a serial number. It's making reference to a registration card. I've looked through the 'Getting Started on WebObjects' book and the 'Installation Guide' booklet, but I can't find a reference to the serial number. I also looked at the CD. This seems to be everything I received at WWDC that has anything to do with WebObjects. Has anyone else gotten around this? rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Prelude WebObjects serial number? Date: 30 May 1997 22:08:08 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5mnj48$n2h$1@news.digifix.com> References: <AFB4C48B-1201E2@141.214.134.235> In-Reply-To: <AFB4C48B-1201E2@141.214.134.235> On 05/30/97, "Robert A. Decker" wrote: > > I just finished installing the Prelude WebObjects stuff (on Mach) and >it's now asking me for a serial number. It's making reference to a >registration card. I've looked through the 'Getting Started on WebObjects' >book and the 'Installation Guide' booklet, but I can't find a reference to >the serial number. I also looked at the CD. > This seems to be everything I received at WWDC that has anything to do >with WebObjects. Has anyone else gotten around this? > I believe its on the back of the envelope that the CD came in.. I'd suggest immediately transferring it to the CD using a Sharpie magic marker.. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
Message-ID: <338F71F7.217F@together.net> Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 19:34:16 -0500 From: Phil Marshall <pmarshall@together.net> Organization: Signal Advertising MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for Apache for NeXTstation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I downloaded Apache for NeXT. I compiled it, but it doesn't run. I have some experience with C, enough to compile it, but not enough to figure out what's wrong. Does anyone out there have a working apache server running on a NextStation (33MHz '040)? Can I get the app or source that will compile? Phil Marshall Signal Advertising
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.muc.de> Subject: Re: Alternate "from" address in NeXTMail? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xlo4wadgv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de (the mole) Organization: hardly any. . . References: <5mlibi$ap0@netnews.upenn.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970530061509.20589D-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 20:53:36 GMT >>>>> "TL" == Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: TL> If you are using 3.3 or later, use the 'expert' setting in TL> Mail.app preferences to enter a new header such as TL> From "Not Me" <someone@somwhere.com> This just alters the From:, not the Sender: nor the Return-Path:. I've been thinking about something to alter my personality too and I've come up with the following recipe: Ingredients: formail (from the procmail package) sendmail-addheadsig (from the mailapps package) time shell programming abilities (I'm lacking the latter two, yet I think, TJL is a good candidate to do this) I wanted to completely alter my ego on a a per message base. A command in the first line of the mail's body would throw the respective switch in the script (which would take the message from Mail.app, alter it and pass it own to the real sendmail). Why all this, you might ask. Well, I use one account on my machine yet I'd like to use an official address as well as one reserved for the correspondence with friends (plus I do a lot of procmail sorting (e.g. mails to "no.spam@burrow.muc.de" are sorted as spam when the header doesn't include references to a usenet post ;-)). Anybody speaking enough sed to cook according to the above recipe? (Throw in some extra switches for PGP-encoding and signing. . .) Markus
From: liuyi@dragon-dance.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for Apache for NeXTstation Date: 31 May 1997 03:12:18 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Message-ID: <7F261E5CE743FD45.5C75C26A41527738.099AE9A2145B3FA6@library-proxy.airnews.net> References: <338F71F7.217F@together.net> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net On Fri, 30 May 1997 19:34:16 -0500, Phil Marshall <pmarshall@together.net> wrote: > [...] > I downloaded Apache for NeXT. I compiled it, but it doesn't run. I > have some experience with C, enough to compile it, but not enough to > figure out what's wrong. Does anyone out there have a working apache > server running on a NextStation (33MHz '040)? Can I get the app or > source that will compile? I compiled apache_1.2b10 with proxy support on NS3.3 m68k a while ago. Except for turning on proxy module, I don't remember doing anything special. It's been working fine for me. Got to www.apache.org and get apache_1.2b11.tar.gz, which is the latest. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@dragon-dance.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: NO_SPAM.michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next tapetool Date: 30 May 1997 12:27:23 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5mmh3b$69a$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5mkcuk$4fd@flonk.uk.sun.com> lennart@triumph.holland.sun.com (Lennart Broekhof) wrote: > >Does anybody know if there is a tapetool available for NeXT 3.2 >in combination with a DAT recorder ? >I was thinking of a tool with wich it is easy to make a dump or >complete backup. I'm not sure, if you want to hear this, but tar and dump/restore are a part of the Nextstep distribution. Both are reliable tools to backup your system. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: "Jeffrey S. Flowers" <dagdagh@exis.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PGP for NeXTSTEP Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 03:28:51 -0400 Organization: EYE Productions Message-ID: <338FD333.264C6C3F@exis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone heard or know of a PGP port for NeXTSTEP? -- Jeffrey S. Flowers dagdagh@exis.net There is no freedom without freedom of speech.
From: "Jeffrey S. Flowers" <dagdagh@exis.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PGP for NeXTSTEP Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 03:28:59 -0400 Organization: EYE Productions Message-ID: <338FD33B.F6B8431F@exis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone heard or know of a PGP port for NeXTSTEP? -- Jeffrey S. Flowers dagdagh@exis.net There is no freedom without freedom of speech.
From: "Jeffrey S. Flowers" <dagdagh@exis.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PGP for NeXTSTEP Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 03:28:45 -0400 Organization: EYE Productions Message-ID: <338FD32D.987070FE@exis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone heard or know of a PGP port for NeXTSTEP? -- Jeffrey S. Flowers dagdagh@exis.net There is no freedom without freedom of speech.
From: pgunn01@ibm.net (***) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Network problem with NeXTStep 4.1/Intel Date: 31 May 1997 07:24:25 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5mojn9$6ub$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I just installed NeXTStep on a PPro/200, with a Linksys Ether16. I downloaded (using OS/2) the NE2000 driver, and installed it. After making my resolv.conf and all the rest of the networking stuff, I have DNS working. However, whenever I try to connect to anywhere (I am testing using the supplied ftp and telnet apps), I get connection refused. Anyone have any ideas? ------------------------------------------- Pat Gunn, a C programmer and member of TeamOS/2, User of NT, OS/2, PC-DOS7, Linux, etc. My homepage is http://ftp.apk.net/~qc Fan of Executor, a Mac emulator for DOS, Linux, and NeXT (http://www.ardi.com) And then came the godly NEKO, a flying first strike 32/32 black creature -------------------------------------------
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Emacs for NextStep wheres the latest? Date: 30 May 1997 22:56:52 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5mnlvk$een@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970526112020.4291B-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> <338B1A4B.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Cc: ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de In <338B1A4B.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Stefan Ried wrote: > Konstantin Wiesel wrote: > > Can somebody please direct me to a site where i can download the latest > > Emacs for NextStep? > ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/editor/Emacs_for_NeXTstep.4.12.NS3.3p1.README For more recent versions you might have a look at: http://nice.ethz.ch/~chris/emacs.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: ovidiu@bx.logicnet.ro (Ovidiu Predescu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ANNOUNCE: libFoundation 0.7.1 Date: 30 May 1997 12:28:33 -0700 Organization: None Message-ID: <199705301927.WAA00553@m45> MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Content-Type: text/plain We are pleased to announce you the availability of libFoundation 0.7.1, a free and almost complete implementation of Foundation Kit as defined by the OpenStep specifications, plus more classes that come with the newest releases of OpenStep 4.x. It has completely or almost completely implemented the following classes: NSObject NSString, NSMutableString NSArray, NSMutableArray NSDictionary, NSMutableDictionary NSSet, NSMutableSet NSData, NSMutableData NSValue, NSNumber NSDate, NSCalendarDate, NSTimeZone NSCharacterSet NSEnumerator NSAutoreleasePool NSException NSNotification, NSNotificationCenter NSCoder, NSArchiver, NSUnarchiver NSScanner NSInvocation, NSMethodSignature NSFileManager NSBundle NSProcessInfo NSAccount NSDistributedLock NSPosixFileDescriptor NSTimer NSRunLoop NSThread NSUserDefaults Some extensions to the OpenStep specification are also present. They include an extended exception handling mechanism, a garbage collector based on reference counting and a printf-like formatting class. The exception handling mechanism is very similar with those found in Java and C++ and requires support for nested functions from the compiler. The garbage collector adds the benefits of automatic garbage collecting to the OpenStep programs and it is fully integrated with OpenStep classes. The printf-like formatting class is a general purpose class that can be used to do various operations that require parsing of format strings like in printf(). This class is used for example to do all the formatting jobs from NSString class in libFoundation. These extensions are also available in a separate library for other OpenStep Foundation implementations; the current supported Foundation libraries are gnustep-base and the Foundation library in NeXTStep 3.3. Support for 4.x OpenStep Foundation library is planned. The library requires the 2.7.2.1 GNU Objective-C compiler with the Objective-C patches from Scott Christley <scott@net-community.com>. On NeXTStep machines the library can also be compiled with NeXT Objective-C runtime besides the GNU runtime. The library was ported on the following platforms: - m68k-next-nextstep3 - i386-next-nextstep3 - i386-unknown-linux-gnu - i386-pc-cygwin32 (Windows NT) - sparc-sun-solaris2.5 Preliminary support has been done for HPUX 9.x. The library also runs with GNU runtime on OpenStep 4.x for Mach with the GNU compiler (not the native one). Distributed Objects and Unicode support in NSString are planned. Changes since version 0.7: ========================= * The port to Solaris has been completed thanks to Aleksandr Savostyanov <sav@conextions.com>. * libFoundation was ported to Windows NT; thanks to Jeremy R. Bettis <jeremy@hksys.com>. * Shared library support has been added. New makefile targets exist on systems that support shared libraries (`shared' and `install_shared'). The currently supported systems are Linux ELF, Solaris and OPENSTEP 4.x. * NSRunLoop and NSPosixFileDescriptor classes has been finished. The NSRunLoop API has been changed to work with NSPosixFileDescriptor objects instead of Unix file descriptors. * Delayed execution of methods in NSObject is now working. * The library now works with both 960906 and 970318 Objective-C runtime patches. (You must have either one of these patches applied to the compiler before compiling libFoundation; see the INSTALL file for more info.) * Many bug fixes and improvements in NSInvocation, NSTimer, exception handling without nested functions support, NSString, geometry functions, NSDistributedLock, NSFileManager and NSRunLoop. See the ChangeLog file for a complete list of the changes. Where you can get it? ===================== You can download the source code from ftp://ftp.logicnet.ro:/pub/users/ovidiu/libFoundation-0.7.1.tgz ftp://ftp.net-community.com/pub/Free/libFoundation-0.7.1.tgz ftp://koala.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE:/pub/next/OpenStep/GNUstep/Sources/libFoundation-0.7.1.tgz Happy hacking, Ovidiu Predescu <ovidiu@net-community.com> Mircea Oancea <mircea@pathcom.com>
From: "E.Kimberly Kuechler" <kkuechle@artcenter.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trying to install OpenStep on Intel w/o SCSI Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 23:11:02 -0700 Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <338FC0F6.1028@cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy folks - I'm trying to install OpenStep (4.1) on my new PC (AMD K6, 32 M RAM, IDE CD-ROM (I've tried two, one of which is a Sony CDU55E - ATA, I think; I'm not positive about the other one). I've heard from a few different people that it's possible to install without a SCSI CD-ROM, but so far (despite a lot of trying and looking through NextAnswers) I haven't been able to do it. Can someone tell me what I need to do to install? (Or tell me where to find the info, or who DOES know.) Any information is helpful and appreciated. Thanks very much - Marc Unger (replies to ungerm@cco.caltech.edu, or the newsgroup). Here's what I do, and what happens: 1. Put "Installation Disk for Intel Processors" in the boot floppy drive, and the OpenStep cdrom in the cdrom drive, and reboot. 2. OpenStep loads for a while (after asking what language I want, if I'm sure I want to install, etc.) 3. Insert the Intel Device Drivers disk when requested. 4. The computer lists the CD-ROM drivers available on the disk, and asks me which one I want to use. There are 20+ listed, most of which are SCSI. There are two "EIDE and ATAPI" drivers, and one IDE driver. I pick one. 5. The same list comes up for the hard drive. Again, I pick one. 6. The "NEXT Mach Operating System" window comes up, and lots of information scrolls past relatively quickly. If I picked a SCSI driver for the CD-ROM, somewhere in the messages will be a line like [drivername]: can't get configspace: ABORTING. If I picked the IDE or EIDE-plus-ATAPI drivers, I don't see any distinctive messages. I've always picked the EIDE or IDE drivers for the hard drive, and the messages I get indicate that the hard drive is recognized fine. Regardless of which drivers I pick, I always wind up with this message at the bottom: No SCSI Controller or CD-ROM Drive found. use sd%d, hd%d, fd%d, en%d, or tr%d. root device? No matter what I type in for the root device (hd0, fd0, etc), the system "panics", and I wind up having to reboot.
From: NoboruYamada <danbo@tcp-ip.or.jp> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted! Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 10:07:56 +0900 Organization: =?iso-2022-jp?B?TUFDGyRCJCpKdTRVRGpDRBsoSg==?= Message-ID: <338F79EB.76D2@tcp-ip.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wanted! I personally manage news web site of Macintosh in Japan. I want your topics, such as trouble shooting at software and hardware, leak of beta software and Apple, and any. I am looking forward to your information! Regards, Mac Treasure Tracing Club http://www.tcp-ip.or.jp/~danbo/ DANBO danbo@tcp-ip.or.jp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Mounting NTFS volumes from OpenStep Message-ID: <EB1JuG.76s@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <weesh-2905970654340001@user-37kbv53.dialup.mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 10:30:15 GMT In article <weesh-2905970654340001@user-37kbv53.dialup.mindspring.com> weesh@mindspring.com (Kenneth H. Wieschhoff) writes: > Hi, > > I'm a newbie running rampant with the Prelude To Rhapsody CD..... > > Can I mount NTFS partitions from OpenStep/Mach under 4.2? PTR came with > a dearth of documentation, so would this be documented somewhere online? > Documentation is in /NextLibrary/Bookshelves -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Next tapetool Message-ID: <EB1JxD.77G@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5mkcuk$4fd@flonk.uk.sun.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 10:32:01 GMT In article <5mkcuk$4fd@flonk.uk.sun.com> lennart@triumph.holland.sun.com (Lennart Broekhof) writes: > > Does anybody know if there is a tapetool available for NeXT 3.2 > in combination with a DAT recorder ? > I was thinking of a tool with wich it is easy to make a dump or > complete backup. > SafetyNet: it's simply great! Get a demo from the archives (Peak, Peanuts, or one of the mirrors) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: oklahoma special effects Message-ID: <5mm1v3$l8o@news2.cais.com> From: steve edwards<custservice@tulsastage.com> Date: 30 May 1997 08:09:07 GMT Organization: tulsa stage lighting thanks for your intrest. as many of you know we supply fog, smoke, bubble, snow, strobe. black light, and other equipment to millitary, government, stage, and theatrical productions. if i can help you with any special effect let me know... we also stock high power lamps from 500w to 20,000w ( new meaning to night lights) thanx steve
From: Juan Villacis <jvillaci@twin.extreme.indiana.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: fixed pitch fonts? Date: 31 May 1997 15:42:25 -0500 Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Message-ID: <p2e910v4bm6.fsf@twin.extreme.indiana.edu> Hi, Does anyone know the names of fixed pitch fonts (besides Courier and Ohlfs) that could be used in the Terminal.app ? I've browsed the standard NeXT ftp sites (peaks,peanuts) but they don't distinguish which fonts are fixed pitch. TIA! -juan
From: planetary <kris@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: fixed pitch fonts? Date: 31 May 1997 21:19:07 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5mqpnb$f20@xmission.xmission.com> References: <p2e910v4bm6.fsf@twin.extreme.indiana.edu> Juan Villacis <jvillaci@twin.extreme.indiana.edu> wrote: : Hi, : Does anyone know the names of fixed pitch fonts (besides Courier : and Ohlfs) that could be used in the Terminal.app ? I've browsed : the standard NeXT ftp sites (peaks,peanuts) but they don't distinguish : which fonts are fixed pitch. Convert Lucida Console from Windows. The other Lucidas might be monospace fonts, but since I haven't tried them, I can't be sure. I keep coming back to Ohlfs, though. ................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <12797864532834@digifix.com> Date: 1 Jun 1997 03:57:29 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <26791865137630@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: "LaMonte" <atarid@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X-Modem Software to Flash Date: 1 Jun 1997 16:34:21 GMT Organization: (Atarid Industries, Inc.) Message-ID: <5ms8ad$gnt@bolivia.earthlink.net> Keywords: NEXTSTEP, Communications, X-Modem Hello NS/OS Users, I am trying to locate a communication's program that I can use to perform a Flash Rom upgrade of my SupraSonic 28.8 Kbps modem to 33.6 Kbps. I am using NS 3.3 on a Turbo machine and only have the user version. I checked the FTP sites and notices that anything which looked useable either required a license string or a person to do a make file. I have kermit 6.0 which was compiled by Timothy Luoma (sp), but don't believe kermit supports X-modem transfers. By the way, and related to this question but also being a hardware question, will Black Hardware support the new 56 K modem download rates being implemented by ISP's? Many Thanks, LaMonte
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Prelude WebObjects serial number? Date: 1 Jun 97 14:36:11 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFB73964-8E6749@141.214.134.235> References: <5mnj48$n2h$1@news.digifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Scott Anguish" <sanguish@digifix.com> nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.programmer, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.mac.advocacy On Fri, May 30, 1997 6:08 PM, Scott Anguish <mailto:sanguish@digifix.com> wrote: > I believe its on the back of the envelope that the CD came >in.. > I'd suggest immediately transferring it to the CD using a >Sharpie magic marker.. I, and a coworker that was at the conference with me, made the mistake of immediately transferring the WebObjects cd to the plastic carrying case that the other Prelude cds were in. Does anyone know if the serial numbers are unique to each cd? There were a couple other people from the U of MI that were at the conference. I could try to use their number. rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> <http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #2: "Has anyone seen Chris? I have some last minute instructions for the scene where he wrestles the evil monkey." -Get a Life
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trying to install OpenStep on Intel w/o SCSI Date: 1 Jun 97 14:45:39 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFB73B9A-8EEC5A@141.214.134.235> References: <338FC0F6.1028@cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "E.Kimberly Kuechler" <kkuechle@artcenter.edu> Do you have both your harddrive and cd drive coming off the same ide controller? The harddrive has to be configured as master and the cd has slave (you'll probably have to move some jumpers - make sure the harddrive is set to dual master, and not single). For drivers I picked dual/secondary eide atapi (#5 on the third or fourth window) If that doesn't work then the cd-rom is probably incompatible. I spent an entire week working on installing my Prelude cds. I cut my hands to shreds transferring a hitachi cd-rom between two machines. Both computer cases (an IBM and a Dell) were literally made from galvanized sheet metal! I can't wait for this to run on Apple hardware. rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: fixed pitch fonts? Message-ID: <EB3MGH.809@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <p2e910v4bm6.fsf@twin.extreme.indiana.edu> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 13:21:53 GMT In article <p2e910v4bm6.fsf@twin.extreme.indiana.edu> Juan Villacis <jvillaci@twin.extreme.indiana.edu> writes: > Does anyone know the names of fixed pitch fonts (besides Courier > and Ohlfs) that could be used in the Terminal.app ? I've browsed > the standard NeXT ftp sites (peaks,peanuts) but they don't distinguish > which fonts are fixed pitch. > If you order the Font Garden CD from Walnut Creek CDROM you get a book full of font previews. Browsing the book I found Adjutant Normal, Delegate, Light Italic, Line Draw, and Newport Gothic to be good candidates (the latter one being an excellent sanserif alternative to Courier!). With no claim on completeness, of course. The said CD is a good buy, anyway. Walnut Creek sells a NEXTSTEP version that has a font directory included in the right place. If you mount the CD and link it to an appropriate directory in the font search path you suddenly have dozens of new fonts with a single GUI action in the File Viewer. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Alternate "from" address in NeXTMail? Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 19:53:04 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970601194426.29515C-100000@kira> References: <5mlibi$ap0@netnews.upenn.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970530061509.20589D-100000@kira> <7xlo4wadgv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <7xlo4wadgv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> On Fri, 30 May 1997, Markus Gloede wrote: > >>>>> "TL" == Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: > > TL> If you are using 3.3 or later, use the 'expert' setting in > TL> Mail.app preferences to enter a new header such as > > TL> From "Not Me" <someone@somwhere.com> > > This just alters the From:, not the Sender: nor the Return-Path:. I've > been thinking about something to alter my personality too and I've > come up with the following recipe: > > Ingredients: > > formail (from the procmail package) > sendmail-addheadsig (from the mailapps package) > time > shell programming abilities > (I'm lacking the latter two, yet I think, TJL is a good candidate to > do this) .... Why thank you.... I'm not sure you can muck with the Return-Path & Sender... sendmail seems to take care of them ... If you want to see what you can muck with easily, set this as your Expert setting for mailer: #!/bin/sh cat - | open exit 0 For me it came out like this: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.1mach v148) X-Image-URL: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.1mach (Enhance 2.0b6) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Timothy J. Luoma <luomat> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 97 22:49:51 -0400 To: luomat Subject: test Reply-To: luomat@peak.org The text of the message <end> So you can edit any of those with sed... other things would be more complex.... why not just recompile sendmail's config for each message ;-) What were you thinking of doing with formail & sendmail-addheader? TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: takis@takis2.ee.net (Panagiotis Velissariou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ISDN under NS? Date: 2 Jun 1997 04:16:52 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5mthfk$624$2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <338D1B76.CF488611@pacbell.net> Cc: brennanh@pacbell.net In <338D1B76.CF488611@pacbell.net> Brennan Hildebrand wrote: > I've got an ISDN box connected to my intel pentium based machine > running NS 4.2 (prelude to rhapsody) over a serial connection. > > I can't seem to figure out how to use the thing with pppd and chat. > Has anyone done this before? I assume that someone must have. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > -brennan > Hi, I thought ISDN devices come with PPP/SLIP and all you have to do is to configure the box to initiate the connections (phone#, username, password, IP adresses, e.t.c). Everything else is taken care through TCP/IP. Here at home I have an ISDM modem (Ascend Pipeline) configured and when I start for example OmniWeb it initiates the connection when I request a document on the Net. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Panagiotis Velissariou _/ _/ The Ohio State University _/ _/ Department of Civil, Graphics & Environmental Engineering _/ _/ E-mail: takis@superior.eng.ohio-state.edu _/ _/ pvelissa@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu _/ _/ takis@takis2.ee.net _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ISDN under NS? Date: 2 Jun 1997 04:21:20 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5mtho0$s9n$1@news.digifix.com> References: <338D1B76.CF488611@pacbell.net> <5mthfk$624$2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In-Reply-To: <5mthfk$624$2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> On 06/01/97, Panagiotis Velissariou wrote: >In <338D1B76.CF488611@pacbell.net> Brennan Hildebrand wrote: >> I've got an ISDN box connected to my intel pentium based machine >> running NS 4.2 (prelude to rhapsody) over a serial connection. >> >> I can't seem to figure out how to use the thing with pppd and chat. >> Has anyone done this before? I assume that someone must have. >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> -brennan >> > >Hi, > >I thought ISDN devices come with PPP/SLIP and all you have to do >is to configure the box to initiate the connections (phone#, >username, password, IP adresses, e.t.c). Everything else is >taken care through TCP/IP. > >Here at home I have an ISDM modem (Ascend Pipeline) configured and >when I start for example OmniWeb it initiates the connection >when I request a document on the Net. I'm not sure that the Ascend Pipeline qualifies as an ISDN modem as such, since it does connect to the machine via Ethernet, and is basically a router. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X-Modem Software to Flash Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 20:06:32 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970601200554.29515D-100000@kira> References: <5ms8ad$gnt@bolivia.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: LaMonte <atarid@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <5ms8ad$gnt@bolivia.earthlink.net> Try rz/sz: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/comm/rzsz.0525.NISH.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/comm/rzsz.3.4.NIHS.tar.gz TjL ps -- you spelled my last name right ;-) -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 56k & black hardware (Re: X-Modem Software to Flash) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 20:09:09 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970601200735.29515E-100000@kira> References: <5ms8ad$gnt@bolivia.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: LaMonte <atarid@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <5ms8ad$gnt@bolivia.earthlink.net> > By the way, and related to this question but also being a hardware question, > will Black Hardware support the new 56 K modem download rates being > implemented by ISP's? Sure... it's the serial port speeds you have to worry about.... Most non-turbo machines can't handle more than 38400... 'will support' is a rather loose definition ;-) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: takis@takis2.ee.net (Panagiotis Velissariou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ISDN under NS? Date: 2 Jun 1997 05:59:25 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5mtnft$624$3@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <338D1B76.CF488611@pacbell.net> <5mthfk$624$2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <5mtho0$s9n$1@news.digifix.com> Cc: sanguish@digifix.com > I'm not sure that the Ascend Pipeline qualifies as an ISDN > modem as such, since it does connect to the machine via Ethernet, and > is basically a router. > You are absolutely right. Always enjoying your postings. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Panagiotis Velissariou _/ _/ The Ohio State University _/ _/ Department of Civil, Graphics & Environmental Engineering _/ _/ E-mail: takis@superior.eng.ohio-state.edu _/ _/ pvelissa@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu _/ _/ takis@takis2.ee.net _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
From: "Jeffrey S. Flowers" <dagdagh@exis.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.3 for Intel Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 06:40:22 +0100 Organization: EYE Productions Message-ID: <33925CC6.7ED1187D@exis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Is there a way to specify a video resolution from the initial boot-up prompt? I am considering trying to install NeXTSTEP 3.3 on a lunch-box style portable that I might be building and I would need different resolutions for when it's using the LCD display and when it's connected to an external monitor. Thanks, ----------------- Jeffrey S. Flowers dagdagh@exis.net There is no freedom without freedom of speech.
From: suhails@ibm.net (Suhail M. Ahmed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Manuals, Books? Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 07:54:36 GMT Organization: EUnet Belgium, Leuven, Belgium Message-ID: <33927b18.2108966@news.belgium.eu.net> References: <colin-1805971514400001@anderson.vt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 18 May 1997 15:14:40 -0600, colin@anderson.vt.com (Colin Anderson) wrote: >Hi, I'm yet another Mac user that bought a secondhand (manual-less) >NeXTstation (Mono, non-turbo). While I have been able to install a few >shareware apps onto this machine, I would like to learn how to do more >with it. What books are/were available for the NeXTstation? What kinds >of manuals came with the NeXTstation and where could I order them? > >Thanks, >Colin Anderson >colin@anderson.vt.com Hi, http://www.cbooks.com seems to carry all the books for NeXTSTEP/OpenStep OS - all 13 of them. When I began NS, I found http://www.cbooks.com/sqlnut/SP/search/gtsumt?isbn=0387978844 (Nextstep Programming: Step One: Object-Oriented Applications) the best guide. Cheers
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trying to install OpenStep on Intel w/o SCSI Date: 2 Jun 1997 07:37:24 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5mtt7k$8fh$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <338FC0F6.1028@cco.caltech.edu> "E.Kimberly Kuechler" <kkuechle@artcenter.edu> wrote: > I've always picked the EIDE or IDE drivers for the hard drive, and > the messages I get indicate that the hard drive is recognized fine. > Regardless of which drivers I pick, I always wind up with this message > at the bottom: > No SCSI Controller or CD-ROM Drive found. Is your ATAPI-CDROM connected to the second EIDE channel? In this case the standard installation program won't work. There are two solutions for this problem: 1) Temporarily connect your CDROM as slave drive to the first EIDE channel, hard disk as master. You can reconnect the drive to the second channel after the installation is complete and you have installed a driver for the second instance of the EIDE adapter. 2) Get NeXT Answers document #2266. It contains the newest EIDE driver and has a "Dual EIDE" configuration option. The problem is that you need a running system to unpack this driver. The advantage is that you needn't to open your PC. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970602.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970523.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970516.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 02 Jun 1997 00:00:00 -0600 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Last-modified: 1997-Apr-03 FAQ-Last-modified: 1997-Jun-01 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> and also at <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X-Modem Software to Flash Date: 2 Jun 1997 12:35:38 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5muemq$q1@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5ms8ad$gnt@bolivia.earthlink.net> "LaMonte" <atarid@earthlink.net> wrote: > I am trying to locate a communication's program that I can use > to perform a Flash Rom upgrade of my SupraSonic 28.8 Kbps modem > to 33.6 Kbps. I am using NS 3.3 on a Turbo machine and only have > the user version. Do you have the Third Party CD that came with NS 3.3? If so, just use Cables.app. This is a very comfortable terminal program which includes XMODEM. The demo mode runs 20 minutes - plenty of time for a flashrom update. Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Font Garden CD no longer available (was: Re: fixed pitch fonts?) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 05:51:03 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970602054500.29023A-100000@kira> References: <p2e910v4bm6.fsf@twin.extreme.indiana.edu> <EB3MGH.809@nidat.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <EB3MGH.809@nidat.sub.org> > If you order the Font Garden CD from Walnut Creek CDROM you get a book > full of font previews. Browsing the book I found Adjutant Normal, > Delegate, Light Italic, Line Draw, and Newport Gothic to be good > candidates (the latter one being an excellent sanserif alternative to > Courier!). With no claim on completeness, of course. > > The said CD is a good buy, anyway. Walnut Creek sells a NEXTSTEP version > that has a font directory included in the right place. If you mount the > CD and link it to an appropriate directory in the font search path you > suddenly have dozens of new fonts with a single GUI action in the File > Viewer. The CD is an excellent buy, especially given the large size of fonts (ie diskspace they take up). However, I have recently been told that Walnut Creek is no longer offering it. The page still appears: http://www.cdrom.com/titles/design/fontnext.htm But just because a page exists doesn't mean its up to date! If you still want to try and get this, I'd hurry, but I'm afraid it's a no-go... Just because WC has dropped this doesn't mean that someone else won't pick it up. I think a CD of Fonts is still a great idea, especially one where they can be used off the CD like FG was.... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: Lee Younggab <ds1dat@ms13.hinet.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: (Q)How can I use PCMCIA modem on my NS3.3/intel? Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 14:03:53 +0800 Organization: Hukou, TAIWAN Message-ID: <33926249.12EF2581@ms13.hinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Is there a way to use PCMCIA modem with NS3.3/intel? My NS 3.3/intel does recognize it, but I don't know how can I link it to ppp2.2. Please comment me... Thanks. Gabriel Lee(ds1dat@ms13.hinet.net)
From: lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (Sean La Shell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 vs. OPENSTEP 4.2 Date: 2 Jun 1997 15:46:58 GMT Organization: Brandeis University, Waltham MA Message-ID: <5mupti$gg4$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> We're planning to upgrade our system and need to decide which to buy. I've heard that OPENSTEP 4.2 runs more slowly than NS 3.3. We have an '040 cube. How much slower is 4.2 than 3.3? What other factors should I consider? Thanks in advance! Sean La Shell lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu
From: bootit@globalnet.co.uk (Kate) Newsgroups: comp.software.international,comp.software.testing,comp.software.international,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.sys.next.software Subject: COMING SOON - To this newsgroup Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 15:44:51 GMT Organization: Message-ID: <3392ea49.18152126@news.globalnet.co.uk> ***STOP PRESS*** Coming to this News Group soon - BOOT IT Software Review Newsletter. Down to earth Software Reviews for the Home PC User and the Download Sites (if applicable) where to get 'em! What you wont get - Unbelievable reviews like 'You really can't live without this' etc. etc., unless it's true of course! What you will get - Honest opinions. No Bull sh**. Why? - Because I'm fed up of being mislead, aren't you? Want to contribute? Have some ideas? Perhaps a name for the Newsletter? Don't think this newsletter is suitable for here? (I don't want to waste your time or mine). Want me to add a News Group to the listing? Please E-mail me (Kate) bootit@globalnet.co.uk Please note, Site still under construction! Kate ~~~~ BOOT IT Software Review Service "Down to earth - No Bull Sh**" ~~~~ bootit@globalnet.co.uk softrev@geocities.com ~~~~ http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Park/1615
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs. OPENSTEP 4.2 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 17:31:55 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <EB5sp8.DHE@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <5mupti$gg4$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> In article <5mupti$gg4$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (Sean La Shell) writes: > We're planning to upgrade our system and need to decide > which to buy. I've heard that OPENSTEP 4.2 runs more > slowly than NS 3.3. We have an '040 cube. How much slower > is 4.2 than 3.3? What other factors should I consider? A big factor is what are you running at the momment? I'm running 3.2Dev+foundation kit on black at home, and 3.3 on intel at work. I don't see any point in upgrading a black machine from 3.2 to 3.3. It's probably worth it for Intel. If you've got an older version (say <3.0), and have the memory then maybe it's worth a jump to 4.2. It depends what you plan to do. If you've got a lot of old code that you want to continue developing, then you need to decide if you're ready to convert that to openstep - might just be easier to stay on 3.x. On the other hand if you're new to NeXTStep programming theirs little point in learning the pre-openstep versions (not that they're bad, or that converting is so hard, but why set out in the wrong direction). Personally my home machine is staying on 3.2. When an afordable rhapsody release is made (not being EDU I would have to pay full price!), I'll probably look at getting a new (intel or PPC) machine. That way I can keep both versions around (as I have some apps which will never move to openstep). swings, and roundabouts as they say... $an
From: gjvo@xs4all.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Computer Modern fonts for NS Date: 2 Jun 1997 19:03:50 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <5mv5em$ae9$1@news2.xs4all.nl> References: <slrn5osgdo.699.nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU> nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen) wrote: >I'm also interested in making the fonts work with other NextStep >programs, though, like Openwrite.app. I *almost* got there (with the BaKoMa fonts); the only problem is that a <space> comes out as a funny dash, whereas an <alt><space> (hard space) comes out as a normal space. Anybody knows how to change this? -- Geert Jan van Oldenborgh work: oldenbor@knmi.nl else: gjvo@xs4all.nl web: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gjvo
From: John Lydic <lydicjw@idt.ch.etn.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP for NeXTSTEP Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 14:54:55 -0400 Organization: Cutler-Hammer Automation Message-ID: <339316FF.3ABE@idt.ch.etn.com> References: <338FD33B.F6B8431F@exis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeffrey S. Flowers wrote: > > Has anyone heard or know of a PGP port for NeXTSTEP? > -- Look for the 'CryptorBundle' in the Archives John -- lydicjw@idt.ch.etn.com *** The Contents of this Message are mine solely and do not necessarily reflect the Views of the Eaton Corporation. The Eaton Corporation has not reviewed nor approved of this Message. I speak for myself. I am NOT authorized to speak for the Eaton Corporation." ***
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: COMING SOON - To this newsgroup Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 11:51:52 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970602114959.17745A-100000@kira> References: <3392ea49.18152126@news.globalnet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Kate <bootit@globalnet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3392ea49.18152126@news.globalnet.co.uk> On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Kate wrote: > ***STOP PRESS*** > > Coming to this News Group soon - BOOT IT Software Review Newsletter. I expect to see NeXTStep/OpenStep reviews in each copy that shows up in comp.sys.next.software or it will qualify as off-topic spam Just so you know where you're posting... just because it has 'software' in the title doesn't mean we're interested in Win* or even Mac stuff if it is to the exclusion of on-topic material. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs. OPENSTEP 4.2 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 11:58:31 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970602115218.17745B-100000@kira> References: <5mupti$gg4$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Sean La Shell <lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu> In-Reply-To: <5mupti$gg4$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> On 2 Jun 1997, Sean La Shell wrote: > We're planning to upgrade our system and need to decide > which to buy. I've heard that OPENSTEP 4.2 runs more > slowly than NS 3.3. We have an '040 cube. How much slower > is 4.2 than 3.3? What other factors should I consider? How about whether or not you can find a copy of NS 3.3? I haven't been reading csn.marketplace recently (got too much junk [aka off topic posts] in it, and I just bought a new system and do not want to be tempted ;-). However, I remember a lot more people wanting to buy it than those who wanted to sell it.... 4.2 is probably EOL for NeXT hardware, despite all hopes to the contrary (does anyone think there will even be a 4.3 OpenStep before Rhapsody?). One might hope that it has been 'tweaked' for max performance on NeXT hardware.... As for other factors.... it is hard to say without knowing what you want to do.... I could very happily run 3.2 on NeXT hardware if I did not want to compile MAB apps/binaries (yeah the Mail.app on 3.3 is much better). What do you plan on doing with the machine? What are you running right now? If you plan on developing, you might want 4.2... provided you can do lots of RAM.... if you just plan on 'using' than you can probably use 3.2 or 3.3 very happily.... Remember than 2.x runs much faster than 3.x, but there are a lot of other considerations.... however it is hard to advise when we do not know what your goals are... Feel free to email me or post more info Good luck TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: bettis@inetnebr.com (Mr. Jeremy Bettis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OS Enterprise for NT? Date: 2 Jun 1997 14:19:52 -0500 Organization: Internet Nebraska Message-ID: <5mv6co$s7b$1@falcon.inetnebr.com> References: <5mf6uu$ghq$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> <5mi0dn$t0i$1@falcon.inetnebr.com> <5mi0m5$kev$1@news.digifix.com> <5miet8$kvv$1@falcon.inetnebr.com> <5miu3i$146$1@news.digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-User: bettis sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: >On 05/28/97, Mr. Jeremy Bettis wrote: >>sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: >>> Its important to note also that when Rhapsody ships the >>>Runtime costs drop to ZERO. >> >>On WinNT? Deploying a product on Rapsody is going to be just >>as hard as NeXTSTEP was. No one will want it unless they can run >>all of their favorite Winders programs on the same computer. >> > I question this assertion... but I believe this is only made >because you don't understand what the Runtime is... This may only be an issue of nominclature, but I do understand what the runtime is. I am not sure I understand what Rapsody is. Correct me if this is wrong. OpenStep Enterprise is a runtime/development kit under Windows NT. Rapsody is an operating system that will run on PowerPC and i386 computers, be based on some MACH/BSD 4.something kernel. > First off, the Runtime costs I was discussing are for NT. Good, I did not relalise that you were saying that the OpenStep Enterprise runtimes go to $0 when Rapsody ships.
From: Rene Berber <_rberber@spin.com.mx_> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to get OpenStep to stop waiting for NetInfo parent? Date: 29 May 1997 05:32:49 GMT Organization: SPIN-Internet Message-ID: <5mj4e1$t7t$1@news.spin.com.mx> References: <chad-2605972352090001@sverige.pengar.com> Cc: chad@pengar.com In <chad-2605972352090001@sverige.pengar.com> Chad Leigh wrote: > A few weeks ago I set up an OpenStep 4.1 machine (Intel) and on booting I > convinced it it is alone in the world and not to try and find a netinfo > parent. > > Now I am installing the WWDC 4.2 stuff and on boot up it insists that it > eeds to wait for a non-existent netinfo parent out there and finally it > times out and lets me hit a "c" to continue. I cannot remember what I did > to overcome this last time. Any help? Thanks > You have two options: 1. If you don't need network communication then just uninstall your network card with Installer.app 2. If you really want a stand alone machine on a net use HostManager.app and set the following options in "Local ...": - NetInfo binding to "Use local domain only" (also could add "Readable only by local net" - HostName, use any name - NIS Domain name: none - Internet address, use any address (if you're on a net, use the same domain and a unique address) - Broadcast address: default - Netmask: either default or 255.255.255.0 - Router: none (unless you do have one and you know the address) - Time standard: ignore network time. With this parameters your computer won't wait for anything on boot up (doesn't have to ask any server or router anything.) -- Rene Berber rberber@spin.com.mx (MIME/NeXTMail welcomed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.muc.de> Subject: Re: Alternate "from" address in NeXTMail? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xwwocy46r.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de (the mole) Organization: hardly any. . . References: <5mlibi$ap0@netnews.upenn.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970530061509.20589D-100000@kira> <7xlo4wadgv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970601194426.29515C-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 23:29:16 GMT >>>>> "TL" == Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: TL> I'm not sure you can muck with the Return-Path & TL> Sender... sendmail seems to take care of them ... TL> [...] TL> What were you thinking of doing with formail & TL> sendmail-addheader? formail to replace headers and the principle of sendmail-addheader to be between Mail.app and the actual sendmail. The following works on my machine: #!/bin/sh address="Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.muc.de>" formail -I "From: $address" -I "Reply-To: $address" \ -I "Return-Path: $address" -I "Sender: $address" \ | /usr/lib/sendmail "$@" The only thing that remains is the leading "From " line. Perhaps it works because I run an ancient sendmail. All I need now is some kind of switch to change the $address e.g. with some command in the first line of the body of the mail. Markus G -- "no.spam@burrow.muc.de"
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OS Enterprise for NT? Date: 2 Jun 1997 13:04:37 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <5mugd5$2e0$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5mf6uu$ghq$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> <5mi0dn$t0i$1@falcon.inetnebr.com> <5mi0m5$kev$1@news.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: > > > > Its important to note also that when Rhapsody ships the > Runtime costs drop to ZERO. > Why don't they drop the runtime costs to ZERO right now? I've got software to ship for 4.2 NT and that would certainly help. Also, how are they going to handle Display PostScript? I believe they currently pay Adobe a license fee. Just curious if anyone has some info about these things. -- Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck
From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Ethernet transfer difficulties Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 22:56:46 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970602224455.3230D-100000@saul1.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros Predicate: Whose triangle is it? I'm having a bit of difficulty using NFS between my NeXTcube and a NS 486. I have a tonne of data on OD I'd like to archive to the hard disk on the 486. Pulling all other ethernet connexions from the hub and leaving just the cube and 486 on the subnet, I get a packet every few seconds at the hub. The transfer takes hours. (>36 hrs to transfer less than 100 MB of data). This is unacceptable; I have twenty or thirty ODs to go through. FTP results in similar performance. The very first bit of the transfer (say, the first 100k) goes through at a normal rate, and then slows down to one flash of the packet indicator on the hub every few seconds for the remainder. I find this odd, because NXhosting apps between the two works at normal ethernet speeds, and the packet indicator flashes as in normal traffic. It seems to make no difference which machine is the one doing the exporting or importing; I've tried both ways. Importing from the 486 results in countless 'NFS server raskolnikov not responding' 'NFS server raskolnikov ok' messages to the console on the cube. I get no messages when importing from the cube, but performance is the same. raskolnikov is an i486-66, 64M/2G, NS 3.3 obelix is an 040 cube, 12M/2G, NS 3.3 Total loss; I don't understand. I hope someone can help me out. ok -r
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Seek PhoneKit.app Date: 3 Jun 1997 06:15:14 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5n0cpi$dc8$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5m8nlh$ak5@slip.net> <EAxzp4.6AC@nidat.sub.org> Cc: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org In <EAxzp4.6AC@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki wrote: > In article <5m8nlh$ak5@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes: > > Hi, > > > > If anyone has PhoneKit.app handy and would be > > kind enought to E-mail a uuencoded version > > it would be really terrific. > > > > Apparently it came on some version of NeXTSTEP. > > > > It is not at ftp.next.peak.org. > > > > I just purchased an ISDN Extender which uses it. > > > PhoneKit was part of NS 3.0 and was discontinued thereafter. Since the > upgrade from NS 3.0 to NS 3.1 included a major change in the kernel libs > the PhoneKit libs would not run on later versions. You need NS 3.0 User > to make it work. Really?! I know that PhoneKit apps compiled under 3.0 and using 'hacked' libs from 3.0 run fine under 3.3. MessageCenter.app works fine IMHO with my extender on a POTS line. In fact at one point I considered trying to add tone support to that app to make for some crude answering service since the voice quality is excellent compared to my Zyxel & am. > And I have to pur some vinager in your wine, too. PhoneKit was > discontinued while in some kind of prerelease state. Although there were > bold plans to extend it to European ISDN standards which had the oly > considerable deployment at that time the necessary extensions have never > been done. Thus, PhoneKit only supports two rather obscure PBXes from > NorthernTelecom and AT&T. I agree that PhoneKit was probably in something like a beta state but it was definately usable and WAS released with NS3.0. I wish they had included tone detection in the code for POTS though. It would have made an awsome VoiceMail system. > Sad but true, the Hayes ISDN Extender is only a collectors item (I also > own one!). > Even though I need the full voicemail functionality if I didn't I'd be using my extender. And if I ever get time in the future (highly unlilkely with 4.2 DR now out) I'll try to fix up MessageCenter for everyone who got those Hayes adapters that are now collecting dust! Randy rencsok at channelu dot com
From: pgunn01@ibm.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTMail and remote POP/SMTP servers? Date: 3 Jun 1997 02:39:45 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5n005h$qro$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Is it possible, and how, can I use NeXTMail to check my email on a POP server over the net, and use a remote SMTP server to send email? I'm using NeXTStep 4.1/Intel, and connected to the internet via Ethernet. ------------------------------------------- Pat Gunn, a C programmer and member of TeamOS/2, User of NT, OS/2, PC-DOS7, Linux, etc. My homepage is http://ftp.apk.net/~qc Fan of Executor, a Mac emulator for DOS, Linux, and NeXT (http://www.ardi.com) And then came the godly NEKO, a flying first strike 32/32 black creature -------------------------------------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTMail and remote POP/SMTP servers? Date: 3 Jun 1997 04:11:14 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5n05h2$rqq$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5n005h$qro$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In-Reply-To: <5n005h$qro$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> On 06/02/97, wrote: >Is it possible, and how, can I use NeXTMail to check my email >on a POP server over the net, and use a remote SMTP server to >send email? I'm using NeXTStep 4.1/Intel, and connected to the >internet via Ethernet. > You need to get a copy of PopOver from the archives.. This will get your incoming email from a POP server. Currently there isn't a client that I'm aware of that sends email via SMTP from Mail.app without sendmail running... Having said that... it should be quite possible to write a program to do that... since Mail.app allows you to specify the program to send mail out with.. PERL would be a good, quick solution, but it would require a major install by most users... -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP for NeXTSTEP Date: 31 May 1997 19:31:16 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5mpua4$3ec$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <338FD33B.F6B8431F@exis.net> compiled it a while ago.. no port required godwin Jeffrey S. Flowers (dagdagh@exis.net) wrote: : Has anyone heard or know of a PGP port for NeXTSTEP? : -- : Jeffrey S. Flowers : dagdagh@exis.net : There is no freedom without freedom of speech.
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Video thru DSP for cubes ? Date: 3 Jun 1997 06:22:58 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5n0d82$dc8$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5m7jq4$eov@slip.net> <5mf5tq$19dc@news.doit.wisc.edu> Cc: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu, emclean@slip.net In <5mf5tq$19dc@news.doit.wisc.edu> bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu wrote: > emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: > >Is there a way to get video to a cube from the DSP > > Buy a DigitalEye or Color DigitalEye. Plugs into the DSP port and works on > all NeXT hardware. It was made by MetaResearch but is no longer marketed. > Perhaps you can pick up one used. > I have one. And BTW: Digital eyes does things that the ND doesn't w/o custom code. That is: It can scale video to 1/2 1/3 1/4 sizes where as with the ND it is still limited by the NBIC limitation to get the full screen video to the CPU to be scaled and returned over the NBIC to the screen.. Hence @ 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 I get higher frame rates on capture to disk through DSP & Digital Eyes vs. ND doing the same thing. Kind of made me sick when I saw it (that DE & DSP is faster than the ND & NBIC) Randy rencsok at channelu dot com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTMail and remote POP/SMTP servers? Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 07:36:32 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970603073211.9486G-100000@kira> References: <5n005h$qro$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <5n05h2$rqq$1@news.digifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> In-Reply-To: <5n05h2$rqq$1@news.digifix.com> On 3 Jun 1997, Scott Anguish wrote: > On 06/02/97, wrote: > >Is it possible, and how, can I use NeXTMail to check my email > >on a POP server over the net, and use a remote SMTP server to > >send email? I'm using NeXTStep 4.1/Intel, and connected to the > >internet via Ethernet. <snip> > Currently there isn't a client that I'm aware of that sends > email via SMTP from Mail.app without sendmail running... > > Having said that... it should be quite possible to write a > program to do that... since Mail.app allows you to specify the program > to send mail out with.. ASSUMING that you have an account on the machine which you want to run sendmail on and ASSUMING that the said account has an .rhosts file setup to accept rsh connections from your machine where you do NOT want to run sendmail, THEN: there is a very easy solution to this problem. Grab 'http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/sendmail-addheadsig' or send me an email message with the SUBJECT send-ascii sendmail-addheadsig read it, read it again, configure it, set it as the mail.app mailer, and voila! I use it to send mail directly from peak.org from my NeXT whenever sendmail isn't working on my NeXT. It is a fairly easy script to follow, written by Carl Edman and commented on by me (with some additional error-checking) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html
From: mullen@apple.com (S. Mullen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trying to install OpenStep on Intel w/o SCSI Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 10:57:39 -0500 Organization: Apple Computer Message-ID: <mullen-0306971057390001@17.127.12.88> References: <338FC0F6.1028@cco.caltech.edu> I have the same problem. I've tried hooking the cd to the secondary, or the master controller, it doesn't matter. anyone? _______________ In article <338FC0F6.1028@cco.caltech.edu>, "E.Kimberly Kuechler" <kkuechle@artcenter.edu> wrote: >Howdy folks - > >I'm trying to install OpenStep (4.1) on my new PC (AMD K6, 32 M RAM, >IDE CD-ROM (I've tried two, one of which is a Sony CDU55E - ATA, I >think; I'm not positive about the other one). I've heard from a few >different people that it's possible to install without a SCSI CD-ROM, >but so far (despite a lot of trying and looking through NextAnswers) I >haven't been able to do it. > >Can someone tell me what I need to do to install? (Or tell me where >to find the info, or who DOES know.) Any information is helpful and >appreciated. > >Thanks very much - > >Marc Unger >(replies to ungerm@cco.caltech.edu, or the newsgroup). > >Here's what I do, and what happens: >1. Put "Installation Disk for Intel Processors" in the boot floppy >drive, and the OpenStep cdrom in the cdrom drive, and reboot. >2. OpenStep loads for a while (after asking what language I want, >if I'm sure I want to install, etc.) >3. Insert the Intel Device Drivers disk when requested. >4. The computer lists the CD-ROM drivers available on the disk, and >asks me which one I want to use. There are 20+ listed, most of which >are SCSI. There are two "EIDE and ATAPI" drivers, and one IDE driver. >I pick one. >5. The same list comes up for the hard drive. Again, I pick one. >6. The "NEXT Mach Operating System" window comes up, and lots of >information scrolls past relatively quickly. If I picked a SCSI >driver for the CD-ROM, somewhere in the messages will be a line like > >[drivername]: can't get configspace: ABORTING. > >If I picked the IDE or EIDE-plus-ATAPI drivers, I don't see any >distinctive messages. > >I've always picked the EIDE or IDE drivers for the hard drive, and >the messages I get indicate that the hard drive is recognized fine. > >Regardless of which drivers I pick, I always wind up with this message >at the bottom: > >No SCSI Controller or CD-ROM Drive found. >use sd%d, hd%d, fd%d, en%d, or tr%d. >root device? > >No matter what I type in for the root device (hd0, fd0, etc), the >system "panics", and I wind up having to reboot. -- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2, encrypted using Pretty Safe Mail 1.0 mQEPAzL4mi0AAAEIANBOXhl0yZapms61G+HHTQBSv2C9fNIvLdXHSlnutELzMn+j fgwiv3GQ5KBuJiQS+6BNBVakN0QG/9wt9x4emcO57yOL9aBsT19wY7Z3bTT0tvbb 1iXydFv3awBiqGPpysC/qmdQl0C/RT8pW+8Ff9IcUejbgqWjrndQ555bn2OEi5t7 r9QuuUMBAZtYCigFyDELAtWlBK9oGEefJ80FTxZJXbNofZ+4THFiP69fGzGY57TW DOuJIwQkk6xHNTSVpU35SK9yP0Y1k/7f+0/8fh/TWu490neUPUkeZnIOgdbVERer X1yjzwL6XCv/FvdpBxTkJ3YfpelQKc4sMItb6tEAEQEAAbQfU2NvdHQgTXVsbGVu IDxtdWxsZW5AYXBwbGUuY29tPokBFQMFEDL47o0pziwwi1vq0QEBTLYH/jIV3Rxo lThERieR1toi7Y7K/3G9GuUocl7EVlHsVAdutmePCGy4vRbdJW3NtrK68JRAkg2c /A+cdqwt6M7mUUc4zA6+azstewhDPIyiuBwCCfRVUrZuV9T/exdFP1BnsU+9qoin hLJ3KDHFQO6BSUw0mnr6d6HGmV0kW5PFwwyC3F59iohVRO7AJTljyzzoGLLngEon J/svwPaLKvlUonLfIH8kaAc5aXL4cj60962eAhWj2mIYikeH2rqFsuBc3oZ6GtsZ kQP5QzUWhSruS0EZpUDuEdMqIYzg5N/LaklGJeAwpjKhiO+q5Iq/ho+du+uHc8Xc fAKTPezUXUuRsiGJARUDBRAy+Rc/ro3aq1G1uAkBAajdB/wJIIo7AQcDKrlvWyRm 5xd3XUzYYHGIz4jXzrhX7b7oT4UYbUjLBpz2DqencAbzKmJq2jJT7i9Zg1ops7Qq 6BpapYdPw4o2nO5Wwgt6V7cf1nyIIFqENlqJF1tJgeddntohRS0B4DzIv6J5AUmu 1K9dRjR1QGrQFfaH/cuXDiUehYsja82ZE1NL3D2MLg+vUeL26q5VM9nZAmdcymlq GLVbU5LM0zvApCChaJu2qiCJbU7Unv3VGcDY2NlB/IWdHRtlGEwQJwepUBtB0C25 +qPjaTnlLviIcbR2So+p06UJjQxqRdXxShe2KM8lIGdDTPfu56h7PdhYLlqmTzUB uX+DiQEVAwUQMvkfZWvedVv37ilpAQFVfwf+KTYEU1DrisLsvF8O+NtvLXT1imeQ xxR7icj2/1elUprrFSTyh4nVzMjiAodgQG/GcGzqi5u0H8H/gF2/XlQ8Ux/LonSj P8UXUTvTmsSD0QMMWF9cv0hUICg3l+pA6n6YtKq2oRC/cZqnfIky1mv4XNEbXazp tS8bnMrFeWxlkVNA8pPzvZvS/ztnp1jczmaE/I2a0JDnDCynHUkdQcJ7RARd71Di U3fmrpOjB/CwCar6VKo7rWz+5PCW048H3jScfZy8ezBYbDOB92cD/t4jX8lOS1ER pGD72gDfMst9Gm+K2/9EzvKUTSORzG4uzwU1GFrOrWrKPPg8k+lO6rA2jw== =WjoV -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP for NeXTSTEP Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 07:11:32 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970603070908.9486E-100000@kira> References: <338FD33B.F6B8431F@exis.net> <339316FF.3ABE@idt.ch.etn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: John Lydic <lydicjw@idt.ch.etn.com> In-Reply-To: <339316FF.3ABE@idt.ch.etn.com> On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, John Lydic wrote: > Jeffrey S. Flowers wrote: > > Has anyone heard or know of a PGP port for NeXTSTEP? > > Look for the 'CryptorBundle' in the Archives CryptorBundle does not actually include PGP (since the CIA does not allow for that to be exported). It is just a bundle for those who have PGP and NeXTStep. PGP in the USA can be found at MIT's web page (if you can't find it checkout my bookmarks page) and compile without problem on NS. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Alternate "from" address in NeXTMail? Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 07:30:24 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970603071350.9486F-100000@kira> References: <5mlibi$ap0@netnews.upenn.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970530061509.20589D-100000@kira> <7xlo4wadgv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970601194426.29515C-100000@kira> <7xwwocy46r.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <7xwwocy46r.fsf@burrow.muc.de> On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Markus Gloede wrote: > The following works on my machine: > > #!/bin/sh > address="Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.muc.de>" > formail -I "From: $address" -I "Reply-To: $address" \ > -I "Return-Path: $address" -I "Sender: $address" \ > | /usr/lib/sendmail "$@" > > The only thing that remains is the leading "From " line. Perhaps it > works because I run an ancient sendmail. All I need now is some kind > of switch to change the $address e.g. with some command in the first > line of the body of the mail. Fairly impressive use of /bin/sh! As for the 'From ' line, have you tried using formail to change that with formail -I"From $address `date`" ? As for that switch, should be faily easy: #!/bin/sh # warning, useless 'cat' in next line address=`cat - | grep "^UnIQueString" |awk '{print $NF}'` add that to your script.... then when you are sending out mail, put UnIQueString someaddress@somewhere.com at the left margin _anywhere_ in your email... Note: I have not checked that 'grep' code.... it might decide to swallow your entire email message and delete it except for that one line.... in fact I think it will.... Have you thought about using one of the 'Expert headers' using the preferences panel? You could change that per message (command-7, 8 or 9 I think will bring up the panel and allow you to change it...) and you could very easily get the value from the defaults database... I can't remember what the value is (oh for the day when I can just connect to my own machine !!) but it would be something like this: address=`dread Mail UserKey1` in the script above.... otherwise you get into temp files... sendmail-addheader has something written into it to do temp files and check the body for content already.... check the code.... (do you have my new version of sendmail-addheader? If not then send me an email message with the SUBJECT send-ascii sendmail-addheadsig or download it from my mailserver page off my web page... NOTE: getting the address from the body WILL NOT WORK for MIME &/or NeXTMail messages.... you should either code in a default address to use if none other is given (a good idea no matter what you do), or use the Expert Headers idea (because you can still grep the headers even if it is MIME or NeXTMAIL) Let me know if you have more questions... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X-Modem Software to Flash Date: 2 Jun 1997 16:17:00 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <5murls$a5s$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5ms8ad$gnt@bolivia.earthlink.net> LaMonte (atarid@earthlink.net) wrote: : : I have kermit 6.0 which was compiled by Timothy Luoma (sp), but don't believe : kermit supports X-modem transfers. Actually yes, it does - provided you have an external program like sx, and it is probably one of the easiest way to achieve such transfer on NeXT. Once you have established connection to what you want, and started a receiving program (or if it starts automatically), type at a kermit prompt redirect sx file_to_send 'file_to_send' can, in fact, be multiple files and 'redirect' has also a short alias '<'. Type 'help redirect' in kermit to find out more. 'sz' and 'sb' for zmodem and ymodem transfers are normally just links to 'sx'. This works with flash roms as well. Just establish kermit connection on a port to which a device to upgrade is connected. Receiving programs normally start by themselves. Michal
From: William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Another question about NetInfo parent (was "How to...stop waiting...") Date: 3 Jun 1997 17:31:23 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5n1kdb$1h2@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <chad-2605972352090001@sverige.pengar.com> <5mj4e1$t7t$1@news.spin.com.mx> While we're on the topic of NetInfo parents, my console window keeps printing a line something like Jun 3 17:02:56 fennel syslog: can't open NetInfo parent domain every several minutes. It is doing little harm, but it is annoying. Why is this happening (it doesn't happen on all my NeXT/Open/Step machines), and how can I stop it? William Clocksin Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu@ (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail utilities for NS 3.1? Date: 3 Jun 1997 19:33:52 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5n1rj0$3mq@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Jun 1997 19:33:52 GMT Does anyone know of any utilities for NS 3.1 that will extract enclosures and uuencoded mail messages? Stephen -- --- Stephen Johnson, sjohnson@myriad.net@ Computer Consulting Intl, LTD PO Box 1046 College Station, TX 77841 409-778-4717 NOTE - remove the trailing @ char. to mail to me.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OS Enterprise for NT? Date: 3 Jun 1997 20:29:32 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5n1urc$ib7$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5mf6uu$ghq$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> <5mi0dn$t0i$1@falcon.inetnebr.com> <5mi0m5$kev$1@news.digifix.com> <5mugd5$2e0$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> In-Reply-To: <5mugd5$2e0$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> On 06/02/97, Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com wrote: >sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: >> > >> >> Its important to note also that when Rhapsody ships the >> Runtime costs drop to ZERO. >> > >Why don't they drop the runtime costs to ZERO right now? I've got >software to ship for 4.2 NT and that would certainly help. > Presumably because they can't rework those license agreements. >Also, how are they going to handle Display PostScript? I believe >they currently pay Adobe a license fee. > >Just curious if anyone has some info about these things. > I doubt we'll ever know the details of the deal Adobe made with Apple... -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.muc.de> Subject: Re: Alternate "from" address in NeXTMail? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xg1uzuxd6.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de (the mole) Organization: hardly any. . . References: <5mlibi$ap0@netnews.upenn.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970530061509.20589D-100000@kira> <7xlo4wadgv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970601194426.29515C-100000@kira> <7xwwocy46r.fsf@burrow.muc.de> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970603071350.9486F-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 22:37:09 GMT >>>>> "TL" == Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: TL> Fairly impressive use of /bin/sh! Where's the smiley? TL> As for the 'From ' line, have you tried using formail to TL> change that with TL> formail -I"From $address `date`" ? No, I was afraid I would get a munged date and $address also contains the long name. I thought if someone really bothers to look at the From line I should reward this by supplying my original address. TL> address=`cat - | grep "^UnIQueString" |awk '{print $NF}'` TL> Note: I have not checked that 'grep' code.... formail complains to the console. Did you consider that this switch should be removed from the body? TL> Have you thought about using one of the 'Expert headers' using TL> the preferences panel? You could change that per message That's a good idea, just put a dread in the script - I will think about it. . . TL> sendmail-addheader has something written into it to do temp TL> files and check the body for content already.... check the TL> code.... No, I don't think it does any checking on the body. TL> Let me know if you have more questions... Thanks for your assistance, if anything comes of this I will supply you with the result (I'm quite busy at the moment). Markus Gloede
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 21:12:02 -0600 From: Tracla@aol.com Subject: NeXT People Question Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Message-ID: <865389689.23631@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service To: Tracla@aol.com Hello - my name is Tracey.. I am working with AT&T in HR as a partner. We are looking for NeXT System Administrators.. But my question is, since this is a new software product for me is: Do people outside of NeXT software have these skills? Are there any dedicated websites where we can post job opportunities What are the salaries of people with this skill set? Thank you for any assistance you can provide Tracey Claybrooke 813-685-6004 Tampa, Florida -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: leow@ufl.edu (Leo Wierzbowski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trying to install OpenStep on Intel w/o SCSI Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 08:45:03 -0400 Organization: CIRCA - University of Florida Message-ID: <leow-0306970845030001@leo.circa.ufl.edu> References: <338FC0F6.1028@cco.caltech.edu> Using OpenStep 4.2 / Mach (Rhapsody prelude from WWDC), I got this to work by choosing the last EIDE driver in the list, the one that mentions dual IDE controllers in it's name (since my motherboard has two IDE controllers). I also had to select this same driver twice - once for the cd-rom and once for the hd. Sincerely, Leo UF In article <338FC0F6.1028@cco.caltech.edu>, "E.Kimberly Kuechler" <kkuechle@artcenter.edu> wrote: > I'm trying to install OpenStep (4.1) on my new PC (AMD K6, 32 M RAM, > IDE CD-ROM (I've tried two, one of which is a Sony CDU55E - ATA, I > think; I'm not positive about the other one). I've heard from a few > different people that it's possible to install without a SCSI CD-ROM, > but so far (despite a lot of trying and looking through NextAnswers) I > haven't been able to do it.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail utilities for NS 3.1? Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 19:38:37 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970603193713.25226B-100000@kira> References: <5n1rj0$3mq@news.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5n1rj0$3mq@news.tamu.edu> On 3 Jun 1997 stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu wrote: > Does anyone know of any utilities for NS 3.1 that will extract > enclosures and uuencoded mail messages? No but you could check out the /pub/next/apps/mail/ folder on peak.org.... MailManager.app might.... and you might also checkout Mynah (there's alink on my bookmarks page I think....) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Alternate "from" address in NeXTMail? Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 19:42:24 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970603194001.25226D-100000@kira> References: <5mlibi$ap0@netnews.upenn.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970530061509.20589D-100000@kira> <7xlo4wadgv.fsf@burrow.muc.de> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970601194426.29515C-100000@kira> <7xwwocy46r.fsf@burrow.muc.de> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970603071350.9486F-100000@kira> <7xg1uzuxd6.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <7xg1uzuxd6.fsf@burrow.muc.de> On Tue, 3 Jun 1997, Markus Gloede wrote: > >>>>> "TL" == Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: > > TL> Fairly impressive use of /bin/sh! > > Where's the smiley? None! I thought it was a good use! > TL> As for the 'From ' line, have you tried using formail to > TL> change that with > > TL> formail -I"From $address `date`" ? > > No, I was afraid I would get a munged date and $address also contains > the long name. I thought if someone really bothers to look at the From > line I should reward this by supplying my original address. Sure... well you could easily munge it if you want to... > TL> address=`cat - | grep "^UnIQueString" |awk '{print $NF}'` > > TL> Note: I have not checked that 'grep' code.... > > formail complains to the console. Did you consider that this switch > should be removed from the body? No but that could be done... > TL> Have you thought about using one of the 'Expert headers' using > TL> the preferences panel? You could change that per message > > That's a good idea, just put a dread in the script - I will think > about it. . . If you plan to use MIME or NeXTmail it's really the only way > Thanks for your assistance, if anything comes of this I will supply > you with the result (I'm quite busy at the moment). If you get stuck drop me a note (with a valid address somewhere ;-) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html
Date: 4 Jun 1997 09:03:39 GMT From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Sender: steve edwards<custservice@tulsastage.com> Message-ID: <cancel.5mm1v3$l8o@news2.cais.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5mm1v3$l8o@news2.cais.com> Control: cancel <5mm1v3$l8o@news2.cais.com> OKLAHOMA spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: oklahoma special effects Total spams this type to date: 38 Total this spam type for this user: 38 Total this spam type for this user today: 3 Originating site: cais.com Complaint addresses: noc@cais.com abuse@cais.com postmaster@webzone.net
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From: spockf@cs.tu-berlin.de (spockf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next Subject: WriteNow conversion Date: 4 Jun 1997 14:49:14 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5n3v9a$8tj$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Keywords: writenow conversion next Hi, I have stumbled over a .wn file and would like to convert it into something printable in a standard UNIX environment. I am not too much into NeXT , but after some time I figured out that it stands for WriteNow. I think it must be (or has been? sorry, no itention to offend anybody) a standard application on the NeXT. Does a converter for WriteNow files exist, or are there other ways to treat this problem? I have framemaker available on HP, so any format that it understands will do, but ps would largely suffice. Many thanx for any suggestions. Daniel Fischer
From: Steven John Pannell <sjp@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: survey Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 14:19:37 +0100 Organization: Queen Mary And Westfield College, University of London Message-ID: <33956B69.99B@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am an MSc student at the University of London (sjp@dcs.qmw.ac.uk). I am conducting research in User Interface Design Tools. I would appreciate it if any designers out there would take 5-10 minutes to respond to the following survey concerning you use of User Interface Design Tools. 1. What is your background discipline [ ] Computer science [ ] Graphic design [ ] Art [ ] Human Factors Other: 2. How may years of experience do you have in designing user interfaces? 3. At the initial design stage what tools do you use? [ ] Pencil & paper [ ] Whiteboard & marker [ ] Drawing/Sketching software Other: 4. What would you say is the main disadvantage of your chosen design tool? 5. What would you say is the main advantage of your chosen design tool? 6. Do you use interface builders or prototyping tools (e.g. NeXT/Hypercard)? [ ] Yes [ ] No 7. If Yes what software packages do you use most often? 8. What would you say are the main disadvantages of these tools? 9. What would you say are the main advantages of these tools? 10. I am working on an electronic sketchpad that will allow designers to rapidly sketch an interactive user interface using a graphics tablet. What do you think are the main advantages and disadvantages of electronic sketching? Thank you for taking the time to respond to my survey. I would appreciate it if you could email your responses to sjp@dcs.qmw.ac.uk. If you have an questions, or would like further information feel free to contact me. ------------------------------------- Steven Pannell sjp@dcs.qmw.ac.uk http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~sjp
From: mcgredo@crl.crl.com (Donald R. McGregor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: NeXT People Question Date: 4 Jun 1997 08:37:43 -0700 Organization: Miskatonic University Department of Classics Message-ID: <5n4247$odp@crl.crl.com> References: <865389689.23631@dejanews.com> In article <865389689.23631@dejanews.com>, <Tracla@aol.com> wrote: >Hello - my name is Tracey.. I am working with AT&T in HR as a partner. >We are looking for NeXT System Administrators.. > >But my question is, since this is a new software product for >me is: > >Do people outside of NeXT software have these skills? Since NeXT is BSD Unix under the skin, anyone with a Unix background should be able to pick it up fairly quickly. There's some flashy NeXT sysadmin tools that make life easier, but anyone who's competent should be able to pick that up quickly enough. Rhapsody might have enough flashy sysadmin tools for a non- unix type to get by, but that remains to be seen. >What are the salaries of people with this skill set? Uh, $500,000/yr. Yeah, that's the ticket. :-) -- Don McGregor | I did it for the children. mcgredo@crl.com |
From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <19970602.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Control: cancel <19970602.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 4 Jun 1997 16:26:03 GMT Organization: N/A Message-ID: <5n44ur$cu4@world1.bawave.com> cancel <19970602.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG>
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP problem: "Serial line appears to be looped back" ??? Date: 4 Jun 1997 16:27:49 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <5n4526$1kq@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Lately I sometimes have the problem that I connect to our campus network and start ppp, and it fails immediately. It seems that rebooting my machine fixes the problem! I don't like having to do that, though. I have a TurboColor slab with 128 MB RAM, and before the latest reboot I checked that my swap space was still at its original 16 MB (with 175 MB free on that partition). When I get this failure, I also get the following lines added to /private/adm/ppp2.2.debug : Jun 4 10:59:44 phoenix pppd[3885]: pppd 2.2.0 started by finton, uid 100 Jun 4 11:00:14 phoenix pppd[3885]: Connected... Jun 4 11:00:15 phoenix pppd[3885]: Using interface ppp0 Jun 4 11:00:15 phoenix pppd[3885]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufa Jun 4 11:00:22 phoenix pppd[3885]: Serial line appears to be looped back. Jun 4 11:00:22 phoenix pppd[3885]: Could not determine remote IP address Jun 4 11:00:22 phoenix pppd[3885]: Compression enabled I know I'm running an old version of the public-domain PPP, but it's never caused a problem until now. Anyone have an idea what may be going wrong? Thanks, David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: WriteNow conversion Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 08:39:23 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970604083531.29839B-100000@kira> References: <5n3v9a$8tj$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: spockf <spockf@cs.tu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <5n3v9a$8tj$1@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> [ Please don't xpost to csn.misc.... ] The files do stand for WriteNow, which was a standard until 3.x (I think.... at least pre-3.2). WriteNow had a binary available called either 'wn2rtf' or 'wn-rtf' that was inside the app wrapper... it could do the conversion at the commandline.... Does anyone know of the _demo_ version of WriteNow contained this command? If so it might open the door a little for making the wn2rtf available on an ftp site.... Anyway, I've got the wn2rtf binary if there's a file you need converted.... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html
From: Ray Spalding <ray.spalding@oit.gatech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing to NeXT from Windows NT Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 13:25:13 -0400 Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <3395A4F9.C4CF3E3C@oit.gatech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I am trying to print to my NeXT printer from Windows NT 4.0 (using the built-in WinNT "lpr" support). My NeXT printer is a real NeXT 400dpi printer connected to a (black) NeXTStation Color running NEXTSTEP 3.2. I am getting PostScript errors for some print files, such as "undefined; OffendingCommand: PageSV" and printing is terminated. The same print files seem to print OK on other-brand PostScript printers on our network. Anyone know what might be wrong and/or a workaround?
From: Diego Zamboni <diegoz@corp.sun.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTSTEP software ported to OpenStep? Date: 04 Jun 1997 10:40:30 -0700 Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Message-ID: <5rcu3jeqnap.fsf@Corp.Sun.COM> Hi, I just started using OpenStep under Solaris. Having used NEXTSTEP for a long time, this is the best thing that could have happened to my Sun workstation. One problem, however, is the apparent lack of (publicly available) software. Under NEXTSTEP, I could go to any Peanuts mirror and download gobs of programs. Under OpenStep, most of this programs apparently need some conversion. So my question is, before I dive into downloading NEXTSTEP software and trying to convert it to make it compile under OpenStep, is there any repository of already converted software? I have looked through all the WWW pages I could find, including stepWise, but I couldn't find anything concrete. Any help or ideas will be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot, --Diego
From: Mark Nichols <markn@seinesys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTStep/Intel crashes after install Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 17:49:29 -0600 Organization: Seine Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <3395FF09.167E@seinesys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. Does somebody know why NeXTStep (OpenStep 4.2 Mach Prerelease) would crash after successfully being installed? I get it installed o.k. (although I must choose Generic SVGA Adapter because our supplier sent us the wrong card), but when I reboot the machine after everything's configured, I get a NeXTStep box on the screen that says "checking disk", and then a blank screen appears and the system hangs. Help?? I'm installing to the second primary partition on the only hard drive -- the first partition is a Windows 95 partition, and NT will reside in the extended partition. Thanks, Ian
From: weesh@mindspring.com (Kenneth H. Wieschhoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Reinstalling OpenStep/Mach Date: 5 Jun 1997 00:47:04 GMT Organization: Siren Enterprises Message-ID: <weesh-0406972056580001@user-2k7i90c.dialup.mindspring.com> I'm trying to do a complete re-install over a previous OpenStep install. I'm sucessful in loading hte IDE driver and telling OS which disk to install on, but the system reboots and starts up the old system without copying the new one. What am I mising? ->Ken
From: pgunn01@ibm.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep/Intel crashes after install Date: 5 Jun 1997 01:05:52 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5n53dg$6qh$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <3395FF09.167E@seinesys.com> In <3395FF09.167E@seinesys.com>, Mark Nichols <markn@seinesys.com> writes: >Hello. > Does somebody know why NeXTStep (OpenStep 4.2 Mach Prerelease) would >crash after successfully being installed? I get it installed o.k. >(although I must choose Generic SVGA Adapter because our supplier sent >us the wrong card), but when I reboot the machine after everything's >configured, I get a NeXTStep box on the screen that says "checking >disk", and then a blank screen appears and the system hangs. Assuming 4.2 is like 4.1 in most areas, give the "-v" argument as a kernel parameter, and it will boot in diagnostic mode, telling you what it's doing. You might be able to get more of an idea what's going wrong by that. ------------------------------------------- Pat Gunn, a C programmer and member of TeamOS/2, User of NT, OS/2, NeXTStep, Linux, etc. My homepage is http://ftp.apk.net/~qc Fan of Executor, a Mac emulator for DOS, Linux, and NeXT (http://www.ardi.com) And then came the godly NEKO, a flying first strike 32/32 black creature -------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: leffert@cs.uchicago.edu (Jonathan B. Leffert) Subject: ssh and NS? Message-ID: <leffert.865495509@cs.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 07:25:09 GMT Has anyone been able to get ssh 1.2.20 to build under User/Developer 3.3 for Black? If so, what did you do to build it? -j -- Jonathan B. Leffert <leffert@cs.uchicago.edu> "But on the serious 3.5% tip, 'B' is the second letter of the English Alphabet. You work it out." -- Tone Def, "Fear of a Black Hat" finger -l leffert@cs.uchicago.edu for PGP Public Key
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MuPAD Date: 4 Jun 1997 21:58:42 GMT Organization: "private site" Message-ID: <5n4oei$42m@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (FinalNews for NeXTstep; Version 0.27 / May 3, 1997) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit How do I get xmupad to work? mupad works fine but I can't plot anything. When I start xmupad I get 'XView error: Cannot open connection to window server: :0 (Server package)' --- _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: MuPAD Date: 5 Jun 1997 11:05:27 GMT Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <5n66hn$du4$4@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> References: <5n4oei$42m@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <5n4oei$42m@eskimo.bb.bawue.de>, juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) writes: > How do I get xmupad to work? mupad works fine but I can't plot > anything. > > When I start xmupad I get 'XView error: Cannot open connection to > window server: :0 (Server package)' I suppose that you want to run xmupad under NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP. Then you have to get an X11 server for your system and run it. Look at the archive sites. There are commercial and shareware ones, depending on your system. Cube X is the commercial. Bernhard Reiter
From: wendling@next.univ-rennes1.fr (Fabrice Wendling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DISPLAYING ON MULTIPLE COMPUTERS Date: 5 Jun 1997 12:09:15 GMT Organization: Universite de Rennes 1, France Message-ID: <5n6a9b$6bd$1@news.univ-rennes1.fr> Hello, I'm looking for an application that would be able to broadcast the display of one NeXTSTEP computer to one or more other computers on the same network. I found an application called ScreenCast, by Otherwise Co. However, it was a demo version. I tried to join Otherwise by mail, without success. Does anybody have some hints about an application or a easy way to display a computer screen on other computers ? Thanks, PS: answers may be sent to wendling@next.univ-rennes1.fr
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Script for NeXT Addresses -> pine adresslist Date: 5 Jun 1997 13:10:54 GMT Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada Message-ID: <5n6dsu$lf8$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Does anyone have a script for converting NeXT mail Addresses to an addressbook suitable for pine? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (NeXTmail OK) Psychology Dept York University Voice: 416 736-5118 Fax: 416 736-5814 4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Printing to NeXT from Windows NT Date: 5 Jun 1997 16:24:05 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <5n6p75$61e@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <3395A4F9.C4CF3E3C@oit.gatech.edu> In article <3395A4F9.C4CF3E3C@oit.gatech.edu> Ray Spalding <ray.spalding@oit.gatech.edu> writes: >I am trying to print to my NeXT printer from Windows NT 4.0 (using the >built-in WinNT "lpr" support). My NeXT printer is a real NeXT 400dpi >printer connected to a (black) NeXTStation Color running NEXTSTEP 3.2. > >I am getting PostScript errors for some print files, such as "undefined; >OffendingCommand: PageSV" and printing is terminated. > >The same print files seem to print OK on other-brand PostScript printers >on our network. >Anyone know what might be wrong and/or a workaround? What's wrong is the fact that Microsoft PostScript is brain-dead, in the sense that their PS is not page-order reversible, even if you turn on DSC conformance in the setup. DSC-conformant PS files should be page-order reversible. Combine that with the fact that NeXT printer prints marked-side up and prints the last page first. Your other-brand printer probably collates pages marked-side down, hence no need for page reversal. The solution is to turn off page reversal for jobs coming from Windows side. If you can insert a filter for lpr, strip the first line to just "%!" by itself (not %!PS-Adobe-3.0), then page reversal will be disabled for the file. Or you could turn off page reversal for all jobs for NeXT printer by either editing the PPD file or changing a flag in NetInfo. I.
From: salyzyn@dpt.com (Mark Salyzyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs. OPENSTEP 4.2 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 21:55:16 GMT Organization: UNIX drivers'R'Us Sender: news@bohica.net Message-ID: <EB9u84.539@bohica.net> References: <5mupti$gg4$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> <EB5sp8.DHE@cam-ani.co.uk> Another factor is whether you like the NetWare support. I believe there is to be an upgrade to allow NetWare to function in 4.2 though so this point may be moot. 3.3 works like a champ on a Netware Notwork, 4.2 NOT. Sincerely -- Mark Salyzyn ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) wrote: >In article <5mupti$gg4$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> >lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (Sean La Shell) writes: >> We're planning to upgrade our system and need to decide >> which to buy. I've heard that OPENSTEP 4.2 runs more >> slowly than NS 3.3. We have an '040 cube. How much slower >> is 4.2 than 3.3? What other factors should I consider?
From: as;odfj@lkasjdf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mailloop v3.0 - Just Released Date: 5 Jun 1997 20:13:02 GMT Organization: Sprint Internet Passport Message-ID: <5n76ke$v@newsfep3.sprintmail.com> Mailloop v3.0 is an industrial strength bulk mailer. Mailloop v3.0 is a bulk mailing program for the internet. It can take a single message and broadcast it to either a listing of e-mail addresses or to a listing of newsgroups. Creates custom newsgroup lists by filtering NNTP servers. Creates custom e-mail lists by extracting them from newsgroups. Can also extract e-mail addresses or newsgroup names from other protocols. Built-in NNTP, SMTP, POP, FTP, HTTP, EXEC, CGI, WHOIS and FINGER clients. Anti-cancelbot feature. Automatically processes remove requests. Includes extensive on-line help. The most powerful bulk mailer available. Requires Windows 95 or NT 3.51+ and internet access. The "Program" Mailloop is only available in English. For more info goto: http://205.199.4.219 http://205.199.4.219 Using it is easy: 1) Create a message ( http://205.199.4.219/editor.htm ) ...by using the pull down menus or ...by using any editor 2) Create a newsgroups list ( http://205.199.4.219/news3.htm ) ...by filtering an NNTP server or ...by importing from any text file or ...by manually creating with any editor or ...by extracting from any FTP file or ...by extracting from any HTTP file 3) Create an e-mail list ( http://205.199.4.219/em3.htm ) ...by extracting from newsgroups or ...by importing from any text file or ...by manually creating with any editor or ...by extracting from a WHOIS response or ...by extracting from a fingering response or ...by extracting from a UNIX response or ...by extracting from any FTP file or ...by extracting from any HTTP file or 4) Broadcast the message ...to the e-mail list or ( http://205.199.4.219/embc.htm ) ...to the newsgroup list ( http://205.199.4.219/ngbc.htm ) 5) Then process the remove requests ...by using the mailbox processor ( http://205.199.4.219/pop.htm ) 6) If you want you can use the Newsletter Sever ...The Newsletter Sever will allow you to have an topic-specific newsletter that other can subscribe and unsubscribe to. ...Customizing this server response files ( http://205.199.4.219/response.htm ) ...Creating a new newsletter ( http://205.199.4.219/create.htm ) ...Creating and Updating a newsletter the actual newsletter ( http://205.199.4.219/update.htm ) For more info visit http://205.199.4.219 http://205.199.4.219
From: kennel@nospam.lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel (Remove 'nospam' to reply)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Ethernet transfer difficulties Date: 5 Jun 1997 22:01:54 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <slrn5pedqs.gs7.kennel@lyapunov.ucsd.edu> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970602224455.3230D-100000@saul1.u.washington.edu> On Mon, 2 Jun 1997 22:56:46 -0700, Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> wrote: : :I'm having a bit of difficulty using NFS between my NeXTcube and a NS 486. :FTP results in similar performance. The very first bit of the transfer :(say, the first 100k) goes through at a normal rate, and then slows down :to one flash of the packet indicator on the hub every few seconds for the :remainder. :raskolnikov is an i486-66, 64M/2G, NS 3.3 :obelix is an 040 cube, 12M/2G, NS 3.3 : :Total loss; I don't understand. : :I hope someone can help me out. This sounds like a fault in the ethernet driver or the card on the PC's end. I saw the same thing on a Linux laptop: good performance at first, but then slows to a halt after lots of fast transfers. It was the driver, doing something screwy on some buffer overflow. What ethernet card on the PC do you have? Try changing it and using a different driver. Have you tried just tar? ok :-r : -- Matthew B. Kennel/Institute for Nonlinear Science, UCSD/ Don't blame me, I voted for Emperor Mollari.
From: Bob Cook <bobcook@rhea.slac.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Script for NeXT Addresses -> pine adresslist Date: 05 Jun 1997 15:33:19 -0700 Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Message-ID: <2roh9kel3k.fsf@rhea.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> References: <5n6dsu$lf8$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: > Does anyone have a script for converting NeXT mail Addresses to an > addressbook suitable for pine? I just diddled it for a while with emacs. (Of course, that doesn't help much if you've got a lot of them.) -- Bob Cook (415) 926-2769 bobcook@slac.stanford.edu Stanford Linear Accelerator Center PGP public key: ftp://ftp.slac.stanford.edu/pgp/bobcook/bobcook.publickey
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) Subject: Re: NeXT People Question Message-ID: <edewEBC19q.H4D@netcom.com> Sender: edew@netcom2.netcom.com Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <865389689.23631@dejanews.com> <5n4247$odp@crl.crl.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 02:22:37 GMT In article <5n4247$odp@crl.crl.com> mcgredo@nospam.crl.com writes: >In article <865389689.23631@dejanews.com>, <Tracla@aol.com> wrote: >>Hello - my name is Tracey.. I am working with AT&T in HR as a partner. >>We are looking for NeXT System Administrators.. >> >>But my question is, since this is a new software product for >>me is: >> >>Do people outside of NeXT software have these skills? > >Since NeXT is BSD Unix under the skin, anyone with a Unix >background should be able to pick it up fairly quickly. There's >some flashy NeXT sysadmin tools that make life easier, but >anyone who's competent should be able to pick that up quickly >enough. > And NeXTs are easier to administer than PCs (running NT, for example) or Macs or Solarises or HP-UXes. You can get two NeXT sys admins to manage up to 200 machines with little problems. >Rhapsody might have enough flashy sysadmin tools for a non- >unix type to get by, but that remains to be seen. > >>What are the salaries of people with this skill set? > >Uh, $500,000/yr. Yeah, that's the ticket. :-) > It depends on the region. In the Silicon Valley, $500K is a little on the low side :-) EDEW
From: com@com.com (com@com.com) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: NeXT People Question Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 05:15:26 GMT Organization: com@com.com Message-ID: <33979c83.1360723@news.voyageronline.net> References: <865389689.23631@dejanews.com> <5n4247$odp@crl.crl.com> <edewEBC19q.H4D@netcom.com> On Fri, 6 Jun 1997 02:22:37 GMT, edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) wrote: >>>What are the salaries of people with this skill set? >> >>Uh, $500,000/yr. Yeah, that's the ticket. :-) >> >It depends on the region. In the Silicon Valley, $500K is a little on the >low side :-) Eric, I would be curious (and other lurkers) to know what a NextStep programmer makes? In particular, those many & several programmers I see that post here. The ones that do work "off location" (i.e. their home or office) (vs. i.e. working for a traditional "company").
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: NeXT People Question Date: 6 Jun 1997 06:01:18 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5n893e$obh$3@news.xmission.com> References: <865389689.23631@dejanews.com> <5n4247$odp@crl.crl.com> <edewEBC19q.H4D@netcom.com> <33979c83.1360723@news.voyageronline.net> com@com.com (com@com.com) wrote: > Eric, I would be curious (and other lurkers) to know what a NextStep > programmer makes? In particular, those many & several programmers > I see that post here. The ones that do work "off location" (i.e. their > home or office) (vs. i.e. working for a traditional "company"). Well, to inject some tiny hint of reality into this, the consultants charge what they can get, and that will vary greatly from one project to the next for most of them. If they are popular and well known, like Omni, they can get $250/hour on some contracts. If they don't have those sorts of credentials, they may be as cheap as, say a student who scrapes out code by night and goes for $15/hour. And there's a whole spectrum in between. So you could say that the NeXT developers are making something between $30k to $500k per year...though I _strongly_ suspect that most are nearer to the 60-100k range (depending upon skill) than either extreme. This is somewhat conjecture, somewhat based on what I know of others in the same field, but should be pretty close to the truth. I won't tell you what I make or charge, though, in any terms more precise than the above. :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT People Question Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 11:31:19 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Mna2p7O00UhBA1mvM2@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <865389689.23631@dejanews.com> <5n4247$odp@crl.crl.com> <edewEBC19q.H4D@netcom.com> <33979c83.1360723@news.voyageronline.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 6-Jun-97 Re: NeXT People Question by com@com.com@com.com > Eric, I would be curious (and other lurkers) to know what a NextStep > programmer makes? In particular, those many & several programmers > I see that post here. The ones that do work "off location" (i.e. their > home or office) (vs. i.e. working for a traditional "company"). It depends on whether you choose to be a salaried employee or whether you want to play the consulting game. Consultants can make anywhere up to $250 an hour, but somewhere in the region of $125-$150 is going to be a lot more typical. Of course, a consultant has to find new work on a regular basis, and they can end up not working for a while if the market slows down. The low-end for salaried employees is about $30,000 - $35,000, and really good NEXTSTEP programmers can see over $100K, with $50K being a reasonable guestimate for the average salary for an experienced programmer. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: "Ross K. Leonard" <ross@everyware.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Prelude WebObjects serial number? Date: 4 Jun 1997 21:26:46 GMT Organization: EDC Message-ID: <01bc712e$787a5a50$475fbace@ross> References: <AFB4C48B-1201E2@141.214.134.235> Robert A. Decker <comrade@umich.edu> wrote in article <AFB4C48B-1201E2@141.214.134.235>... > > I just finished installing the Prelude WebObjects stuff (on Mach) and > it's now asking me for a serial number. It's making reference to a > registration card. I've looked through the 'Getting Started on WebObjects' > book and the 'Installation Guide' booklet, but I can't find a reference to > the serial number. I also looked at the CD. > This seems to be everything I received at WWDC that has anything to do > with WebObjects. Has anyone else gotten around this? > > > rob I'm just working through the same install, and I believe the serial # is on the sticker on the Tyvek CD sleeve. However, when I use that serial number, I get an error while running serial.app (can't write to license.table). I don't know if they are related or not. -Ross-
From: com@com.com (com@com.com) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: NeXT People Question Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 05:30:21 GMT Organization: com@com.com Message-ID: <3398eef1.3101355@news.voyageronline.net> References: <865389689.23631@dejanews.com> <5n4247$odp@crl.crl.com> <edewEBC19q.H4D@netcom.com> <33979c83.1360723@news.voyageronline.net> <5n893e$obh$3@news.xmission.com> On 6 Jun 1997 06:01:18 GMT, don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) wrote: >com@com.com (com@com.com) wrote: >> Eric, I would be curious (and other lurkers) to know what a NextStep >> programmer makes? In particular, those many & several programmers >> I see that post here. The ones that do work "off location" (i.e. their >> home or office) (vs. i.e. working for a traditional "company"). > >Well, to inject some tiny hint of reality into this, the would the above, working off 'location', be in line with reality, in your opinion? >consultants charge what they can get, and that will vary >greatly from one project to the next for most of them. If >they are popular and well known, like Omni, they can get >$250/hour on some contracts. If they don't have those sorts I guess I was talking about what the individual takes home. I seem to remember reading somewhere. .that the "company" will bill (i.e.) $200./hour the programmer will get about 1/2 this. . which is still about 50% above what someone on salary gets (with the trade off, being. . salary=job protection, more benefits, more stable life, etc.) >of credentials, they may be as cheap as, say a student who >scrapes out code by night and goes for $15/hour. And there's I would be curious to know if such animals do exist? (in NextStep that is). >a whole spectrum in between. So you could say that the NeXT >developers are making something between $30k to $500k per >year...though I _strongly_ suspect that most are nearer to the >60-100k range (depending upon skill) Skill. . . . and location. . . a person making a $100k/year in the People's Republic of California. . or the Worker's Paradise of New York City, would probably not be living as well as someone that has left those type locales. .and relocated to the backwoods of wherever. Hence the question about working "off location". Even the most remote parts of the nation are connected now. >This is somewhat conjecture, somewhat based on what I know of >others in the same field, but should be pretty close to the truth. >I won't tell you what I make or charge, though, in any terms more >precise than the above. :-) And I wouldn't want you too! I'm looking more for "general" terms. I guess you have the 'low' and the 'high'---and most people probably fall into that bell curve in the middle. On the other hand, how many people that use NextStep are mediocre enough to be described as average? hmmm... Thanks for the input. > >-- >Later, > >-Don Yacktman >don@misckit.com ><a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a> >
From: com@com.com (com@com.com) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT People Question Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 05:31:22 GMT Organization: com@com.com Message-ID: <3398ef04.3120517@news.voyageronline.net> References: <865389689.23631@dejanews.com> <5n4247$odp@crl.crl.com> <edewEBC19q.H4D@netcom.com> <33979c83.1360723@news.voyageronline.net> <Mna2p7O00UhBA1mvM2@andrew.cmu.edu> <5n9qga$cnu$4@news2.digex.net> On 6 Jun 1997 20:04:26 GMT, John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: >I think it being a highly demanded, but short supplied market has >a lot to do with the higher rates.... All that will change in the >upcoming years (so live it up while you can :). This is a most interesting statement! Would you care to guess as to the figures? I know that NextStep was never a "wild" success in terms of lots of people using it, but WAS a success in terms of programmers making money. Are you talking 20% off the figures above? ---or something more drastic, like "80%"? Also, can you give a time frame? (lets assume Rhapsody ships on time etc.). When would the above figure(s) start to influence the market?
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT People Question Date: 7 Jun 1997 05:42:29 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5nasc5$fva$1@news2.digex.net> References: <865389689.23631@dejanews.com> <5n4247$odp@crl.crl.com> <edewEBC19q.H4D@netcom.com> <33979c83.1360723@news.voyageronline.net> <Mna2p7O00UhBA1mvM2@andrew.cmu.edu> <5n9qga$cnu$4@news2.digex.net> <3398ef04.3120517@news.voyageronline.net> com@com.com (com@com.com) wrote: > On 6 Jun 1997 20:04:26 GMT, John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> > wrote: > This is a most interesting statement! Would you care to guess > as to the figures? I know that NextStep was never a "wild" success > in terms of lots of people using it, but WAS a success in terms > of programmers making money. Are you talking 20% off the figures > above? ---or something more drastic, like "80%"? > Also, can you give a time frame? (lets assume Rhapsody ships on > time etc.). When would the above figure(s) start to influence > the market? Well, my best guestimate would be for those figures to asymtotically approach the industry average...The rate of change would depend upon how quickly and in what numbers people will go to the environment. I image w/in 3 years that OPENSTEP salaries get inline with the rest of the industry... Then again, it's pretty much speculation on my part :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: olaf@orest.escape.de Subject: Re: PPP problem: "Serial line appears to be looped back" ??? Message-ID: <EBEBzC.EwB@orest.escape.de> Sender: olaf@orest.escape.de (Olaf Mueller) Organization: Objective Methods, Inc. References: <5n4526$1kq@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 08:09:12 GMT In article <5n4526$1kq@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes: > Lately I sometimes have the problem that I connect to our campus > network and start ppp, and it fails immediately. It seems that > rebooting my machine fixes the problem! I don't like having to > do that, though. > > I have a TurboColor slab with 128 MB RAM, and before the latest > reboot I checked that my swap space was still at its original > 16 MB (with 175 MB free on that partition). When I get this > failure, I also get the following lines added to > /private/adm/ppp2.2.debug : > > Jun 4 10:59:44 phoenix pppd[3885]: pppd 2.2.0 started by finton, uid 100 > Jun 4 11:00:14 phoenix pppd[3885]: Connected... > Jun 4 11:00:15 phoenix pppd[3885]: Using interface ppp0 > Jun 4 11:00:15 phoenix pppd[3885]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufa > Jun 4 11:00:22 phoenix pppd[3885]: Serial line appears to be looped back. > Jun 4 11:00:22 phoenix pppd[3885]: Could not determine remote IP address > Jun 4 11:00:22 phoenix pppd[3885]: Compression enabled > > I know I'm running an old version of the public-domain PPP, but > it's never caused a problem until now. Anyone have an idea what > may be going wrong? > I also had this problem, which suddenly appears and never leave. I added "-mn" in the ppp startup script, which solves the problem. Don't ask me why. Regards Olaf
From: "Marc A. Unger" <ungerm@cco.caltech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep 4.1 on Intel w/o SCSI Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 22:55:15 -0700 Organization: Caltech Chemistry Dept Message-ID: <3398F7C3.1C92@cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All - Many thanks to those who gave advice on my previous question. Here's what made it work: 1. Connect IDE HD as master, IDE CD-ROM as slave on the primary HD controller. 2. Boot up with the Intel installation disk in the floppy drive, and follow the instructions. 3. For the CD-ROM driver, pick #2 (Adaptec SCSI) 4. For the HD, pick #7,#7,#5 - i.e. #5 on the third page of drivers (its the dual EIDE driver) The CD-ROM is NOT ATAPI, as far as I know. This gets you at least to the part of the installation running under OpenStep. I haven't been past there yet, but I'll speak up if this initial configuration poses a problem later. Hope this helps, Marc Unger ungerm@cco.caltech.edu
From: "Marc A. Unger" <ungerm@cco.caltech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Openstep coexisting with Windows 95? Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 23:01:50 -0700 Organization: Caltech Chemistry Dept Message-ID: <3398F94E.6E3E@cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi again, everyone - Has anyone installed Openstep to dual boot with Win95 on a single hard drive? (Obviously, I'm on an Intel machine.) Are there any differences from an OpenStep/DOS dual boot? Any caveats? Any procedures written anywhere? A local Linux user told me he'd heard that Win95 does some "nasty" things that make dual booting other operating systems difficult. Given the general character of Win95, this wouldn't surprise me a bit, so I figured I'd ask before plowing ahead. Thanks for any input, Marc Unger ungerm@cco.caltech.edu
From: kc@ignem.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs. OPENSTEP 4.2 Date: 6 Jun 1997 07:57:44 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5n8fto$9gv$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <5mupti$gg4$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> <EB5sp8.DHE@cam-ani.co.uk> Ian Stephenson (ians@cam-ani.co.uk) wrote: : I'm running 3.2Dev+foundation kit on black at home, and 3.3 on intel at : work. I don't see any point in upgrading a black machine from 3.2 to 3.3. I can think of three: new Mail.app, new Terminal.app, and--most importantly if you ever use a web browser--a windowserver which doesn't leak images (chewing up all your memory/swap space). On the other hand, I personally went all the way and got 4.2 for my NeXTstation (which I'm using right now), so that I could run OpenStep applications on my machine. (Not many such apps now, I know, so for other people it might not be worth it.) 4.2 on a NeXTstation with 32MB RAM doesn't seem much slower than 3.3 to me (but then I'm used to using fast Intel hardware, so this machine has felt sluggish for quite a while), but unfortunately it isn't quite as stable as 3.3 was. (My lookup daemon occasionally crashes, after which email to this machine bounces until I reboot. Pretty annoying.) -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep coexisting with Windows 95? Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 15:25:05 +0200 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <33996131.446B@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <3398F94E.6E3E@cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marc A. Unger wrote: > > Hi again, everyone - > > Has anyone installed Openstep to dual boot with Win95 on a single hard > drive? (Obviously, I'm on an Intel machine.) Are there any differences > from an OpenStep/DOS dual boot? Any caveats? Any procedures written > anywhere? > > A local Linux user told me he'd heard that Win95 does some "nasty" > things that make dual booting other operating systems difficult. > Given the general character of Win95, this wouldn't surprise me a bit, > so I figured I'd ask before plowing ahead. > Windoze95 might remove the bootflag from the NeXT partition, so you can't see NeXT's bootmanager any more. Go to Win95 fdisk and set the NeXT partition as Startup partition. Then NeXT will start (again). If NeXT isn't showing it's simple bootmanager while booting check out NeXT's disk -b command to add the boot prompt to the NeXT partition (again). So far no problem. I use Win95 and NeXT with one HD. stefan -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT People Question Date: 6 Jun 1997 20:04:26 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5n9qga$cnu$4@news2.digex.net> References: <865389689.23631@dejanews.com> <5n4247$odp@crl.crl.com> <edewEBC19q.H4D@netcom.com> <33979c83.1360723@news.voyageronline.net> <Mna2p7O00UhBA1mvM2@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > It depends on whether you choose to be a salaried employee or > whether you want to play the consulting game. Consultants can > make anywhere up to $250 an hour, but somewhere in the region of > $125-$150 is going to be a lot more typical. Of course, a > consultant has to find new work on a regular basis, and they can > end up not working for a while if the market slows down. > The low-end for salaried employees is about $30,000 - $35,000, > and really good NEXTSTEP programmers can see over $100K, with > $50K being a reasonable guestimate for the average salary for an > experienced programmer. Boy, I think it depends on region, b/c here in NY the salaries I've heard of are a LOT higher. I've heard consultants getting round $350/hr (sheesh as bad as lawyers :) but on average $175-225, and full time work for a decently experienced NeXT programmer (3+ years) is in the 80-100k on average, and 130k on up for the super duper guys... I think it being a highly demanded, but short supplied market has a lot to do with the higher rates.... All that will change in the upcoming years (so live it up while you can :). -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Script for NeXT Addresses -> pine adresslist Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 13:31:28 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970605092402.13279B-100000@kira> References: <5n6dsu$lf8$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Michael Friendly <friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca>, Tim Luoma <luomat@peak.org> In-Reply-To: <5n6dsu$lf8$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> Sure... here's a little something I whipped up just now to do that.... actually I started it yesterday but got sidetracked when I couldn't find a particular bug (damn missin " gets you every time!) Anyway, there's a few disclaimers here... 1) you have to have the alias file where I expect it to be (the normal spot is ~/.NeXT/.mailalias did this change in OpenStep? at any rate you can set it in the script) 2) the addressbook will be named something like 'nm2pine.sh.out'. This means that you will either have to move/rename the output file to wherever your pine addressbook resides, or change the pine preferences for where the addressbook resides ** 3) FOR PRIVATE GROUPS: PINE wants 3 fields, Mail.app only gives two, so you are asked to provide the 3rd (which is the 'Real Name' field in Pine... supposed to be the group's/persons's real name, not their email address or the nickname you chose ** 4) FOR PRIVATE USERS: Mail.app only has the address, you must supply the Real Name and the nickname/alias. Script should be faily self-explanatory for any who care to peruse the code..... Use only at your own risk, yatta yatta yim If you like it and it works, let me know.... if something breaks, you get both pieces, but let me know how it broke... 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Another question about NetInfo parent (was "How to...stop waiting...") Message-ID: <EBF426.A0L@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5n1kdb$1h2@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 18:15:42 GMT In article <5n1kdb$1h2@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> William.Clocksin@CL.cam.ac.uk writes: > While we're on the topic of NetInfo parents, my console window > keeps printing a line something like > Jun 3 17:02:56 fennel syslog: can't open NetInfo parent domain > every several minutes. It is doing little harm, but it is annoying. > Why is this happening (it doesn't happen on all my NeXT/Open/Step > machines), and how can I stop it? > This computer is configured to be part of a larger network, either a client or a slave server, but can't find its parent, i.e. there is no master or slave server setup to respond to its broadcast requests. How to stop that? Two ways, I can think of. Either instruct your NI server to accept this machine as part of its network (HostManager.app) or tell the client to be no client any more but a standalone machine. You could also try HostManager for this (menu 'Local Settings' and check 'only use local database'). But if the machine underwent prior customization that prevents this method to result in a clean state only a complete reset would work. For this you need to copy /etc/hostconfig and /etc/netinfo/* from /usr/templates/client. But beware all customization will be lost afterwards. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5nc9k4$d7n$1023@usenet85.supernews.com> Date: 7 Jun 1997 20:02:11 GMT Control: cancel <5nc9k4$d7n$1023@usenet85.supernews.com> Message-ID: <cancel.5nc9k4$d7n$1023@usenet85.supernews.com> Sender: jasonben@aol.com Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: embuck@palmer.cca.rockwell.com (Erik M. Buck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: NeXT People Question Date: 7 Jun 1997 18:47:58 GMT Organization: Rockwell Collins Message-ID: <5ncacu$5fo3@castor.cca.rockwell.com> References: <865389689.23631@dejanews.com> <5n4247$odp@crl.crl.com> <edewEBC19q.H4D@netcom.com> <33979c83.1360723@news.voyageronline.net> Cc: com@com.com In <33979c83.1360723@news.voyageronline.net> com@com.com wrote: EXPERT nextstep programmers who ALSO have some knowledge of one of the many application fields using NeXTstep earn low 6 figures from remote offices and mid 6 figures for on-site work. Add 25% for New York City and some other expensive areas. NOVICE nextstep programmers earn about standard fees 50-75k / year One reason fees are high (apart from supply and demand) is that expert nextstep programmers are capable of creating apps for vertical or horizontal markets very rapidly and inexpensively. Employers are pay a premium for the "opportunity costs" of distracting the programmers from building and selling their own apps. For instance, my company earns 7 figures for selling apps but only six figures for contract work. With nextstep, the risks of building apps without a paying customer are low. It is an extremely good business to be in right now.
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail.app Addresses -- stored in what file? Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 13:21:51 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970607132046.643B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Where does Mail.app store user Addresses? I can't seem to find it. Robert rjacobs@vks.stanford.edu
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nice Fortran editor Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 13:23:46 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970607132231.643C-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm looking for a nice Fortran editor for NeXTStep (or at least one I can compile). For example, one that will color code comments on the screen for easy recognition, automatic indentation, etc. I use vi now and that is fine, but if you have any suggestions I'd like to try something else out. I'm using NS 3.3. Thanks. Robert rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app Addresses -- stored in what file? Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 14:53:03 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970607145244.27278G-100000@kira> References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970607132046.643B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970607132046.643B-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> ~/.NeXT/.mailalias
From: Alex Hartley <alexhrt@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB- WriteNow and Wordperfect for Black Hardware Date: 7 Jun 1997 17:41:00 -0700 Organization: Alex Hartley and Associates Message-ID: <339A0158.44@primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need to buy WriteNow and/or Wordperfect for a Black NeXT Dimension. Email your price to: alexhart@alexhart.com Thanks!
From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: alt.unix.wizards,comp.sys.next.software Subject: ncftp doesn't work? Date: 9 Jun 1997 09:29:26 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ngidm$q46@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi all, Could anyone explain me why ncftp doesn't work for me? I'd like to ftp a whole directory like this: dir--> file1 dir1-->file2 dir2-->file3 dir3---> ... by command get -CR dir after copying file1 and creating dir1, ncftp stops and report "could not create directory dir1, file exists". if I rerun the command again, then it could proceed and copy file2, create dir2, stop and report about cannot create dir2, and so on. everytime I rerun the command, I can go further one level in the directory structure (which is very deep). Any idea? Thanks very much, Khanh Nguyen,
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <26791865137630@digifix.com> Date: 8 Jun 1997 03:57:17 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <14012865742421@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What does PasteUp do that Word Perfect doesn't Date: 8 Jun 1997 22:43:21 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5ng55p$g2p@slip.net> Hi, I'm running 040/25 black hardware. Someone has offered PasteUp on c.s.n.m for 100$ and I have WP .... What does PasteUp do that WP doesn't ? Thanks, Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Install OS on my own account on Solaris ? Date: 8 Jun 1997 22:52:59 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5ng5nr$gi1@slip.net> Hi, I use my ISP's Unix shell feature pretty extensively .... And I was wondering if it would be possible to install OS on my account. Thanks, Emmett
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Install OS on my own account on Solaris ? Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 23:27:59 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970608231853.3728B-100000@kira> References: <5ng5nr$gi1@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> In-Reply-To: <5ng5nr$gi1@slip.net> On 8 Jun 1997, Emmett McLean wrote: > I use my ISP's Unix shell feature pretty extensively .... > And I was wondering if it would be possible to install > OS on my account. I have no idea what you are asking.... Can you install OpenStep on your shell account? It would take 200-300 megs for a user environment.... what are you thinking of doing? If you are talking a commandline shell account, you can use any shell you want.... sh, csh, zsh, bash, zsh, tcsh, zsh, ... Can you explain what you mean? Thanks TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" Bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] installing LaTeX2e in NeXT system Message-ID: <BUCHANAN.97Jun5104853@banach.millersv.edu> From: buchanan@banach.millersv.edu (J. Robert Buchanan) Date: 05 Jun 1997 14:48:53 GMT Followup-To: comp.text.tex Distribution: usa Organization: Millersville University Hello, I recently installed the LaTeX2e macros on my NeXT computer system (it came preconfigured with TeX and LaTeX 2.09). Everything can be made to work, but I still have two questions. Before installing LaTeX2e I used to be able to use the tex command to process files that were either in plain TeX format or files that used LaTeX 2.09 macros. After installing LaTeX2e, I now must use the latex command to process files containing LaTeX2e macros. My TeX version is buchanan.bob> tex This is CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141 ** Is there any way I can coax my software back to its older (and what I consider, more convenient) behavior? Secondly, the previewing application available to me on the NeXT is TeXView.app which can open a dvi file as well as invoke tex on a file and then open the resulting dvi file. Since installing the LaTeX2e macros, I can no longer get TeXView.app to tex a file correctly. It's invoking the tex command when it should be using the latex command. In the TeXView command window I see the messages - tex -v "main" This is CTeX, NeXT Version 3.141 (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied) Do you have any suggestions for improving this behavior? As you see, the two problems are related. Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions. Bob Buchanan -- Bob Buchanan (jbuchana@marauder.millersv.edu) Phone: 717-872-3659, FAX: 717-871-2320, http://www.millersv.edu/~jbuchana Mathematics Dept. Millersville University P.O. Box 1002, Millersville, PA 17551-0302
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Difference between Developer and Developer Upgrade Date: 8 Jun 1997 17:23:35 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5nfie7$s99@slip.net> Hi, What is the difference between OS "Developer" and "Developer Upgrade" ? Thanks, Emmett
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Gloede <no.spam@burrow.muc.de> Subject: Re: Offline News Reader? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xbu5gsf3e.fsf@burrow.muc.de> To: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de (the mole) Organization: hardly any. . . References: <199706082143181820290@rhrz-isdn2-p5.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 1997 02:08:21 GMT >>>>> "DT" == Dirk Theisen <theisen@akaMail.com> writes: DT> Hello! Is there an offline news reader available for NS / DT> OS/Mach? The current Gnus under Emacs can work with Soup packets. It's a bit tricky to set up and get used to, though. Markus "n.s" Gloede P.S.: Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5ndqot$nm$1162@news.internetmci.com> Date: 8 Jun 1997 16:51:33 GMT Control: cancel <5ndqot$nm$1162@news.internetmci.com> Message-ID: <cancel.5ndqot$nm$1162@news.internetmci.com> Sender: Photorep45@ibm.net Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Offline News Reader? Date: Sun, 8 Jun 1997 21:43:18 +0200 Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Bonn, Germany Message-ID: <199706082143181820290@rhrz-isdn2-p5.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Hello! Is there an offline news reader available for NS / OS/Mach? Regards, Dirk -- Computer Science, University of Bonn, Germany http://titan.informatik.uni-bonn.de/~theisen/
From: liuyi@dragon-dance.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Install OS on my own account on Solaris ? Date: 9 Jun 1997 09:12:25 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Message-ID: <968394DF6CE77EA7.598481662AF6B1E9.0306753981FC381F@library-proxy.airnews.net> References: <5ng5nr$gi1@slip.net> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net On 8 Jun 1997 22:52:59 -0700, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: > [...] > I use my ISP's Unix shell feature pretty extensively .... > And I was wondering if it would be possible to install > OS on my account. Since you did not say what OS your ISP's shell host is running, I'm guessing it's Solaris 2.x, a SysV variant. If you want real OPENSTEP, you'd have to convince the sysadm of your ISP to install OS on the shell host machine. It's not like just installing a newsreader in your own ~/bin, there's no getting around it. But if you really like a BSD4.3 shell environment (I prefer SysV given a choice), it would probably be a lot easier to just write a few shell scripts and compile some packages to fake BSD personalities in your own ~/bin than forcing everybody on your ISP's shell machine to switch to BSD4.3. The easiest way is to get the SysV Nutshell book from O'Reilly ($10), and learn the difference between SysV and BSD. It's not that hard. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@dragon-dance.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: spider@inthetriangle.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 8 Jun 1997 22:21:15 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5nfb8r$6ac$42@rtp2.intrex.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <5nfb8r$6ac$42@rtp2.intrex.net> Control: cancel <5nfb8r$6ac$42@rtp2.intrex.net> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Mon Jun 9 11:07:30 1997 Original subject was: Free download of Web Promotion Spider
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How do I use HyperTeXview with Postscript Fonts? Date: 8 Jun 1997 23:20:39 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5nfeo7$fh1$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> Hi all, HyperTeXview (kp-0.30) keeps wanting to invoke MakeTeXPK to build a font (ptmb7t) using times.sty. After much poking around, I'm guessing this is because I have an incomplete psfonts.map file (which is ok for dvips since it finds the appropriate .vf file, but it looks like TeXview only checks the psfonts.map file). I'm using the standard teTeX 4.0 distribution, fresh out of the box. Can anyone give me a clue how to update my psfonts.map file to fix this? -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: Arne Sieg <sieg@informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X-like 3-button-mouse using with CubeX: possible? Date: 9 Jun 1997 23:07:35 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <5ni2bn$1hn@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Hello! I would like to know, if there is any way to set up CubeX to use a 3-button mouse correctly? The problem is, right know, only the most left button can be used. The middle and the right buttons do not funktion as in X usually used (copy, paste...). (Cube)X useable 3-button-mouse on SPARC possible? (Cube)X useable 3-button-mouse on Intel possible? (Cube)X useable 3-button-mouse on HP-PA possible? (Cube)X useable 3-button-mouse on Motorola possible (replaced mouse with serial bus mouse)? Thank you, Arne Sieg. -- Arne Sieg, StuMi-Sysadmin PST (E0.6, E3, E8) mail: sieg@informatik.uni-muenchen.de url: http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~sieg/ pgp: key fingerprint = 79 78 8E 76 B5 B6 AA 71 D8 1A C4 41 ED 86 46 C9
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Offline News Reader? Date: 9 Jun 1997 01:26:56 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5nfm50$5it@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <199706082143181820290@rhrz-isdn2-p5.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) wrote: > Is there an offline news reader available for NS / OS/Mach? Yes. There are two variants that work with different concepts. HNNews is newsreader with integrated offline capability (late beta stadium, then commercial); I think RadicalNews has announced this, too, for the future, but not implemented yet. And there is PersonalINN, a ready-made binary package of an INN installation especially modified and adapted for personal use. This will give you your own news server on your computer, which stores the newsgroups you want and which you can use with any NNTP-capable newreader. PersonalINN is free. Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: "Marc A. Unger" <ungerm@cco.caltech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HD pseudo-disaster running Openstep on Intel Date: Sun, 08 Jun 1997 21:13:58 -0700 Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <339B8306.2BAC@cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all - So, using the tricks previously mentioned, I got Openstep to recognize the CD-ROM and HD on my Intel machine (sans SCSI). Proceeding along, I repartitioned the HD, and got OpenStep installed. The Next bootmanager is in place, and I can boot Openstep. I'd be more enthusiastic if the remainder of my hard drive weren't totally thrashed. I did expect to lose existing data on the disk when I repartitioned, and I made a backup accordingly. But when I rebooted, expecting to find a nice simple DOS partition into which I could reload everything, I was rudely surprised to get an "invalid media type" message. I used DISKEDIT (Norton) to fix that problem, and found out that my once-proud C: drive thought that its 65K in size. Anyone have any idea what happened? Or how to fix it? (Note that the other operating system is Windows95, which won't let you use FDISK outside of Win95.) Installation on intels is going to have to get a lot, *LOT* easier before Microsoft has any competition... Cheers, Marc Unger ungerm@cco.caltech.edu
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Unusable fonts in OS/NT? Date: 9 Jun 1997 22:22:39 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5nhvnf$g8i@shelob.afs.com> I'm trying to move some of my NeXT fonts over to OS/NT. I put them in /LocalLibrary/Fonts, I see buildafmdir do its thing, the font families and faces show up in the Font Panel, but all of them are marked as "Unusable" in the preview section. I tried logging out and in, no luck. Anyone else had this problem and know a solution? Thanks. BTW, these are all "legit" Adobe fonts in 2.0 format. No clones or PD. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "We're in the land of the blind, Visionary Ophthalmologist | selling working eyeballs, and they Anderson Financial Systems | balk at the choice of color." -- Tony greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | Lovell, on Mac user reactions to NeXT
From: iwont@cray.fuku.net (No I won't) Newsgroups: alt.unix.wizards,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ncftp doesn't work? Date: 9 Jun 1997 08:58:02 -0400 Organization: The funkiest site on the net! Message-ID: <5ngukq$32u$1@cray.fuku.net> References: <5ngidm$q46@news.tuwien.ac.at> make sure you have at least version 2.30 and then issue this command get -R <directory name> at the top level directory. knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) writes: >Hi all, >Could anyone explain me why ncftp doesn't work for me? >I'd like to ftp a whole directory like this: >dir--> file1 > dir1-->file2 > dir2-->file3 > dir3---> ... >by command get -CR dir >after copying file1 and creating dir1, ncftp stops and report "could not >create directory dir1, file exists". >if I rerun the command again, then it could proceed and copy file2, >create dir2, stop and report about cannot create dir2, and so on. >everytime I rerun the command, I can go further one level in the >directory structure (which is very deep). >Any idea? >Thanks very much, >Khanh Nguyen,
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What does PasteUp do that Word Perfect doesn't Date: 9 Jun 1997 14:11:02 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5nh2tm$eha@shelob.afs.com> References: <5ng55p$g2p@slip.net> Emmett McLean writes > Someone has offered PasteUp on c.s.n.m for 100$ and I have WP .... > What does PasteUp do that WP doesn't ? The short answer is, "PasteUp is a page layout application, while WordPerfect is a word processor." The long answer is on StepWise (www.stepwise.com). -- Gregory H. Anderson | "We're in the land of the blind, Visionary Ophthalmologist | selling working eyeballs, and they Anderson Financial Systems | balk at the choice of color." -- Tony greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | Lovell, on Mac user reactions to NeXT
From: jasonben@aol.com (jasonben) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5nc9k4$d7n$1023@usenet85.supernews.com> Control: cancel <5nc9k4$d7n$1023@usenet85.supernews.com> Date: 9 Jun 1997 12:54:43 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-5nc9k4$d7n$1023@usenet85.supernews.com> Please cancel this posting
From: tom@sumoweb.com (Thomas McCarthy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail problem Date: 10 Jun 1997 03:25:01 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Message-ID: <5nihed$9eb$1@news3.snfc21.pacbell.net> Hi, I am having some trouble with my mail. The problem is two-fold. First, I can only send mail when my PPP connection is up. My outgoing mail doesn't just pile up and wait to go when I'm connected, it tries to go when I click "Deliver," which is not the behavior I am looking for. The second part of the problem is that a lot of mail bounces back to me. My very limited knowledge of how mail works tells me that two things are going on. One, my mail is going directly to the addressee, and not through my mail relay. If the target machine is not up at that very moment, bam! it comes back to me.The second thing is that my host name (which is nonexistant, because it consists of my machine name [sumo] and my service provider's name [pacbell.net]) is not recognized, and some receiving machines (though not all) apparently won't take mail if it comes from a non-existant host. Here are some relevant parts of returned mail: ------ This is from mail sent while my PPP connection was down. The address is valid. Date: Mon, 9 Jun 97 20:10:19 -0700 From: NeXT Mail Agent <Mailer-Agent> Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown To: tom ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 afs2000a.usc.edu (ddn)... 550 Host unknown 554 tmccarth@afs2000a.usc.edu... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server) ------ And this is from mail that was sent while my PPP connection was up, but apparently someone wasn't happy with the name "sumo.pacbell.net." Date: Mon, 9 Jun 97 19:39:58 -0700 From: NeXT Mail Agent <Mailer-Agent> Subject: Returned mail: Remote protocol error To: tom ----- Transcript of session follows ----- While connected to b.mx.aol.com: >>> MAIL From:<tom@sumo.pacbell.net> <<< 550 <tom@sumo.pacbell.net>... Sender domain not found in DNS (see RFC 1123, sections 5.2.2 and 5.2.18). 554 tshsia@aol.com... 554 Remote protocol error ------ I would really appreciate any pointers on how to fix this. I'd like my mail to go through without "Remote protocol error," and I'd like my mail to queue up while I'm off line and go out when I am on-line. (I don't mind having to manually flush the mail queue.) Thanks! -- Tom ---------- Thomas McCarthy tom@sumoweb.com
From: Jesse McCann <ybco@bestweb.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.1 on Compaq Presario Date: Mon, 09 Jun 1997 15:44:53 -0500 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Message-ID: <339C6B42.74F@bestweb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a friend who is about to buy a NeXTSTEP 3.1 for use on his compaq presario... does anyone know anything about installing on these machines (it is a 9500 sieres) thank you jesse
From: icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep coexisting with Windows 95? Date: 9 Jun 1997 08:50:29 GMT Organization: ICOL GmbH Message-ID: <5ngg4l$bp8$1@news02.btx.dtag.de> References: <3398F94E.6E3E@cco.caltech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You should install W95 first, if not, it will format your NeXT-partition without any quesions. Alex Marc A. Unger wrote: > > Hi again, everyone - > > Has anyone installed Openstep to dual boot with Win95 on a single hard > drive? (Obviously, I'm on an Intel machine.) Are there any differences > from an OpenStep/DOS dual boot? Any caveats? Any procedures written > anywhere? > > A local Linux user told me he'd heard that Win95 does some "nasty" > things that make dual booting other operating systems difficult. > Given the general character of Win95, this wouldn't surprise me a bit, > so I figured I'd ask before plowing ahead. > > Thanks for any input, > > Marc Unger > ungerm@cco.caltech.edu -- ICOL GmbH Alexander Dietz Im Grundrasen 3 36391 Sinntal Tel: +49 6664 919211 Fax: +49 6664 6204 E-Mail: icol.animo@t-online.de
From: Bald Herreman <bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Ethernet transfer difficulties Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 15:52:52 +0200 Organization: University of Ghent, Belgium Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.970610154438.16358D-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970602224455.3230D-100000@saul1.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970602224455.3230D-100000@saul1.u.washington.edu> On Mon, 2 Jun 1997, Ray Stricklin wrote: > > I'm having a bit of difficulty using NFS between my NeXTcube and a NS 486. > We are having difficulties with a Nextcube and a Pentium 166 > FTP results in similar performance. The very first bit of the transfer > (say, the first 100k) goes through at a normal rate, and then slows down > to one flash of the packet indicator on the hub every few seconds for the > remainder. exactly, If I have to transport large files I ftp them to the university ftp server(=on the other side of town), from there on to the nextcube > > It seems to make no difference which machine is the one doing the > exporting or importing; I've tried both ways. Nextcube to intel goes significantly faster (my guess is a factor 50) compared to intel >>> next Importing from the 486 > results in countless 'NFS server raskolnikov not responding' 'NFS server > raskolnikov ok' messages to the console on the cube. I get no messages > when importing from the cube, but performance is the same. Identical situation > > raskolnikov is an i486-66, 64M/2G, NS 3.3 > obelix is an 040 cube, 12M/2G, NS 3.3 > > Total loss; I don't understand. > > I hope someone can help me out. > > ok > -r > We are in this situation ever since we got our new server (Intel Pentium), I dont really now if it has been going on before since the nextcube was server only. Good luck
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep coexisting with Windows 95? Date: 10 Jun 1997 16:22:14 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5njuvm$816@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5ngg4l$bp8$1@news02.btx.dtag.de> In article <5ngg4l$bp8$1@news02.btx.dtag.de> icol.animo@t-online.de (Alexander Dietz) writes: > You should install W95 first, if not, it will format your NeXT-partition > without any quesions. I disagree. You should install NeXTSTEP/OpenSTep first, as it offers you the choice of Partioning your hard drive into 2 parts (1 for NS/OS and the other for whatever, in this case Win95). If installing Win95 first, you'll need to boot from a floppy, use fdisk to create 1 non-dos partition and 1 dos partition. hint: Nextstep likes to be installed on the 1st partition: it helps that it is first because then it can read the dos partition form NEXTSTEP, whereas if dos is 1, you'll not be able to see it. (At least that is my experience). Win95 WILL, if installed 2nd, wipe out the neato NEXTSTEP booter, that allows you the choice of booting into Dos or NEXTSTEP. There's my $0.02. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: philippe_Provost <phil@cnam.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: InterfaceViewer.app still available ? Date: 10 Jun 1997 20:58:14 GMT Organization: Conservatoire National des Arts et Metiers Message-ID: <5nkf56$mb3$1@pauli.cnam.fr> Greetings, I sent two emails to the editor Heinz.com at the following address: interfaceviewer@heinz.com but I got no answer. Do you do where/how I can get in touch with the editor ? we need to buy a few licences of that app... Thank you to answer directly to phil@cnam.fr philippe
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep coexisting with Windows 95? Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 23:06:01 +0200 Organization: Max Plank Institut for Polymer Research Message-ID: <339DC1B9.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <3398F94E.6E3E@cco.caltech.edu> <5ngg4l$bp8$1@news02.btx.dtag.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alexander Dietz wrote: > > You should install W95 first, if not, it will format your NeXT-partition > without any quesions. > That's not true. Win95 is only removing the boot flag from a another partition. Simple invoke win95's fdisk and reset the boot flag to the NeXT partition. If NeXT isn't coming up with it's little boot manager check out disk -b command on the NeXT root prompt. So the straight forward way to get win95 and NeXT is. 1. Install NeXT, leave some space besides as suggested by the menue 2. Install Win95 3. win fdisk to boot NeXT again 4. NeXT disk -b /dev/rsd0 or /dev/rhd0 or what ever is your disk I've done this at least with four machines, no problem. stefan ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X-like 3-button-mouse using with CubeX: possible? Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 23:09:10 +0200 Organization: Max Plank Institut for Polymer Research Message-ID: <339DC276.2781@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5ni2bn$1hn@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Arne Sieg wrote: > > Hello! > > I would like to know, if there is any way to set up CubeX to use a 3-button > mouse correctly? > The problem is, right know, only the most left button can be used. The middle > and the right buttons do not funktion as in X usually used (copy, paste...). > (Cube)X useable 3-button-mouse on SPARC possible? > (Cube)X useable 3-button-mouse on Intel possible? > (Cube)X useable 3-button-mouse on HP-PA possible? > (Cube)X useable 3-button-mouse on Motorola possible (replaced mouse with > serial bus mouse)? > Thank you, > Arne Sieg. > -- > Arne Sieg, StuMi-Sysadmin PST (E0.6, E3, E8) > mail: sieg@informatik.uni-muenchen.de > url: http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~sieg/ > pgp: key fingerprint = 79 78 8E 76 B5 B6 AA 71 D8 1A C4 41 ED 86 46 C9 With my CubX the left and right mouse is working depending on the window it is used in, absolutely as usual in X or NS. The third is simulated by syncron pressing left and right. I did nothing as the usual installation. stef -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: ftouhi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Majid Ftouhi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: GSPrintFilter Resolution?? Please Help Date: 10 Jun 1997 22:03:53 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <5nkj09$p4j@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Hi There: I have a LaserJet 5L, i have installed GSPrintFilter. The default resolution is 300 dpi to print. When i choose 600 dpi resolution from the option menu , the resolution of what i print doesn't change (even when if i choose an other resolution for example 75dpi). Please help?? Thanks in advance -- Majid Ftouhi Departement d'Informatique et Recherche Operationnelle Universite de Montreal email: ftouhi@iro.umontreal.ca (MIME & NeXTMail available) Web : http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~ftouhi ==============================================================
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT 3.3 root directory Date: 10 Jun 1997 23:15:42 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5nkn6u$hio$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5nfr1d$smr$1@e3000.supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: wpbrown@xensei.com In <5nfr1d$smr$1@e3000.supernews.com> WPBrown wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm quite new to NeXT, and in running the user configuration application to > change root's shell, I inadvertantly changed root's home directory from / to > /root. Unfortunately I can not seem to change it back, the application will > not accept my corrected entry. In checking /etc/passwd, the root directory is > listed as /, although a finger will also show it to be /root. Any thoughts > onhow to correct this? Use UserManager.app in /NextAdmin/ Go to the long view..... -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html
From: Free Cable<larry@aol.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CABLE BOX DESCRAMBLER BUILD YOUR OWN DESCRAMBLER FAST CHEAP AND EASY Date: 11 Jun 1997 00:02:43 GMT Organization: Free Cable Message-ID: <5nkpv3$e72@chronicle.concentric.net> CABLE BOX DESCRAMBLER BUILD YOUR OWN DESCRAMBLER FAST CHEAP AND EASY Just a few inexpensive parts from Radio Shack and a little time and you can descramble every cable channel. See all your favorite movie channels,pay per view etc To recieve detail instructions and diagrams on how to construct your own Cable Box Descrambler Mail $5.00 CASH MONEY ORDER CHECK S&G Enterprise 12145 Augusta Woods Cir Suite 3 Orlando FL. 32824 Please be sure to include your full name & address Allow 10 days to recieve Thank You Seth Garner
From: badger@aquarius.scs.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Badger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What size hard drive for Black NS 3.3 developer? Date: 11 Jun 1997 01:14:03 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <5nku4r$i4b$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I'm considering buying a used NeXT Station or Cube to play with now that the prices are quite reasonable. My question is what size hard disk do I realistically need to use the development system? I see machines for sale with 100MB, 250MB, 400MB, and 1.0GB drives. Because the NeXT will only be a hobby machine for me, I want to spend as little as possible but still have a useable system. Also, just how noticeable is the difference between the Turbo and non-Turbo systems? I'm not talking number crunching here, I'm just talking using the system interactively. Would I regret not getting a Turbo system? Jonathan Badger
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: XEmacs for NeXTStep Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:28:17 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970610182656.11777A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone successfully compiled xemacs for NeXTStep 3.3? I've been trying unsuccessfully. I'd love to hear from someone who's done it. Rob rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu
From: kevin@lasvegasdirect.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FS/FT: Novell Netware 3.12 4.12 w/licences Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 01:49:24 GMT Organization: InteleNet Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <339e03f6.10182348@news.intelenet.net> FS/FT: Novell Netware 3.12 4.12 w/licences I have Novell Netware 3.12 with 250 user licences and Novell Netware 4.1 with 100 user licences + online documentation CD make a offer........ or will trade.. I am looking for: hard drives (300-??) RAM 72pin ?? pent. m/b with or without cpu 14" vga monitor intel dx-4 100 cpu other stuff???? will work something out , the software is of no value to me!!! I dont use it!! kevin@lasvegasdirect.com
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From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT 3.3 root directory Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 20:40:35 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970610203835.24121I-100000@saul5.u.washington.edu> References: <5nfr1d$smr$1@e3000.supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros In-Reply-To: <5nfr1d$smr$1@e3000.supernews.com> Predicate: Whose triangle is it? On 9 Jun 1997, WPBrown wrote: > I'm quite new to NeXT, and in running the user configuration application to > change root's shell, I inadvertantly changed root's home directory from / to > /root. Unfortunately I can not seem to change it back, the application will > not accept my corrected entry. In checking /etc/passwd, the root directory is > listed as /, although a finger will also show it to be /root. Any thoughts > onhow to correct this? I recently had the same problem, although UserManager changed it for me and I hadn't noticed when I hit 'OK'. Took me a while to figure out why my preferences weren't being saved... Every time I changed /root to /, it would be changed back automatically to /root when I saved the mods.. The trick is to change it in the NetInfo manager. I'm not sitting in front of my box at the moment, so I can't give you exact details. If you need further help though, feel free to email me. ok -r
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger) Subject: Re: NeXT 3.3 root directory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <EBL2M8.9qw@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> Sender: news@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de Cc: wpbrown@xensei.com Organization: none References: <5nfr1d$smr$1@e3000.supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 23:30:08 GMT In <5nfr1d$smr$1@e3000.supernews.com> WPBrown wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm quite new to NeXT, and in running the user configuration application to > change root's shell, I inadvertantly changed root's home directory from / to > /root. Unfortunately I can not seem to change it back, the application will > not accept my corrected entry. One can change it back using the NetinfoManager.app after a doubleclick on root in /users there. Hope this helps -- Olaf Foellinger homepage: http://www1.stuttgart.netsurf.de/~ergo/ NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep coexisting with Windows 95? Date: 11 Jun 1997 04:47:49 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5nlall$91v$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <3398F94E.6E3E@cco.caltech.edu> <5ngg4l$bp8$1@news02.btx.dtag.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In <5ngg4l$bp8$1@news02.btx.dtag.de> Alexander Dietz wrote: > You should install W95 first, if not, it will format your NeXT-partition > without any quesions. I actually did this last week. Yes I agree that installing Win95 first is the best way to go. Make sure you leave a large enough partition for NS. After installing Win95 I installed OpenStep and went to the 'expert' installation stuff and it asked me if I wanted to use the unused partition. But then when it was done it was not bootable (I got "Boot Disk Error"). Fortunately I was able to hook it to a working disk and use http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1470.htmld/1470.html where it says disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rsd0a BUT I used 'rsd3a' rather then 'rsd0a' and you should be sure and do the right thing for your setup.... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html
From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nice Fortran editor Date: 11 Jun 1997 04:59:23 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Message-ID: <5nlbbb$7n6$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970607132231.643C-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU In <Pine.NXT.3.92.970607132231.643C-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> "Robert G. Jacobs" wrote: > I'm looking for a nice Fortran editor for NeXTStep (or at least one I can > compile). For example, one that will color code comments on the screen > for easy recognition, automatic indentation, etc. > I use vi now and that is fine, but if you have any suggestions I'd like to > try something else out. I'm using NS 3.3. Thanks. > > Robert > rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu > > Emacs with Hilit19 enabled? -- Leigh Computer Science, University of Western Australia Smith +61-9-9380-3778 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME) "Home pages are the pet rock of the 90s. We all have them, we all think they're very cute. But in a few years we're going to look back and be pretty embarrassed." -- Tony Shepps <toad@pond.com> "Why wait?" -- Peter Langston
From: takis@takis2.ee.net (Panagiotis Velissariou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: wu-ftp -- problems with 'ls' and Yftp Date: 11 Jun 1997 06:29:54 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5nlgl2$l2q$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <5nirte$b0g$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Cc: luomat@peak.org Hi, Do you have a bin/ directory in the ftp's home direrectory? If yes you need to put (no links allowed) overthere the binaries for : ls, gzip, tar e.t.c Putting all these in the above directory you can also have ftp to do on the fly tar, gzip e.t.c. Better do a fresh compile for these programs and put them in the above directory You may want to retrieve the latesst version of wu-ftpd from : ftp.academ.com/pub/wu-ftpd/private/wu-ftpd-2.4.2-beta-13.tar.gz and may be you want to take a look at : http://www.landfield.com/ > I have setup wu-ftp 2.4... using ncftp and YFtp I can't see what's in > there.... 'ls' doesn't seem to be working... -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Panagiotis Velissariou _/ _/ The Ohio State University _/ _/ Department of Civil, Graphics & Environmental Engineering _/ _/ E-mail: takis@superior.eng.ohio-state.edu _/ _/ pvelissa@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu _/ _/ takis@takis2.ee.net _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
From: Photoagent@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Attention All Photographers Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 02:38:00 Organization: Internet MCI Message-ID: <5nlh0b$eqc$1105@news.internetmci.com> PHOTO PHOENIX INTERNATIONAL We are an international New York based agency representing professional and amateur photographers in the following areas: Galleries, Business and Organizations, Book Publishers, Paper Products, Consumer Publication, Newspapers & Newsletters Publication, Special Interest Publication, and Trade Publication. The images we are seeking are some of the following: Animals/Architecture/Art/Automobiles/Business/Celebrities/Documentary/ Entertainment/Erotica-Nudity/Fashion/Food/Health/History/Hobbies/ Outdoors/People/Political/Portraits/Still Lifes/Religious/Science/ Sports/Travel. Whether your work portrays conservative, experimental, stylish, or innovative themes, your project proposal should be well thought out before submitting to us. For first contact, please submit a query letter, and samples of your work. Please include SASE. Do not send entire portfolio unless we ask for it. If we are not interested, you may not hear from us because of time limitations, so please submit what does not need to be returned. If we think your work is sellable we will respond as quickly as possible. Send to: Photo Phoenix International 33-29 58 Street Woodside, New York 11377 Tele: Florida Branch-(941) 642-660
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Subject: Re: What does PasteUp do that Word Perfect doesn't Message-ID: <EBJtrz.CA@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany References: <5ng55p$g2p@slip.net> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 07:21:35 GMT In article <5ng55p$g2p@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes: > Hi, > > I'm running 040/25 black hardware. > > Someone has offered PasteUp on c.s.n.m for 100$ and I have WP .... > What does PasteUp do that WP doesn't ? > > Thanks, > > Emmett > A life without PasteUp on NeXT is unthinkable, the same with WP not. Manfred
From: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu (Brian K. Meadows) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep coexisting with Windows 95? Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 17:54:07 GMT Organization: Applied Chaos Lab Message-ID: <339ee4a0.43299506@news.gatech.edu> References: <3398F94E.6E3E@cco.caltech.edu> On Fri, 06 Jun 1997 23:01:50 -0700, "Marc A. Unger" <ungerm@cco.caltech.edu> wrote: >Hi again, everyone - > >Has anyone installed Openstep to dual boot with Win95 on a single hard >drive? (Obviously, I'm on an Intel machine.) Are there any differences >from an OpenStep/DOS dual boot? Any caveats? Any procedures written >anywhere? > >A local Linux user told me he'd heard that Win95 does some "nasty" >things that make dual booting other operating systems difficult. >Given the general character of Win95, this wouldn't surprise me a bit, >so I figured I'd ask before plowing ahead. > >Thanks for any input, > >Marc Unger >ungerm@cco.caltech.edu I've had a lot of luck using System Commander 3.0 as my boot program. Right now I've got a DOS/WIM95/WNT/Next3.3/OpenStep4.0 all running on the same computer. For $35 its a good investment. Brian Meadows ______________________________________ Brian K. Meadows Applied Chaos Laboratory School of Physics Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, GA 30332-0430 phone: (404) 894-1448 fax: (404) 894-9958 email: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu WWW: http://acl.gatech.edu ______________________________________
From: Peter.Pregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Peter Pregler) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Conversion from WriteNow 2.0 to WinWord7 Date: 11 Jun 1997 15:27:56 GMT Organization: RISC, J.K. University of Linz, Austria Sender: ppregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at Message-ID: <5nmg5s$2a0e@alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hallo, we have the following problem. We use WriteNow 2.0 and want to change to WinWord 7. The problem is of cause that we want to convert or files or at least have some way to convert things on demand. Principally, one can export RFT from WriteNow but that does export things in the NeXT character set so German umlaute are not exported correctly. Therefore my questions: - Has anyone seen an import-filte for WriteNow 2.0 under Word? - Is it possible to export WriteNow documents with a decent character set, Even in some form of ASCII-format? - Is WriteNow available for Windows? Greetings, Peter ------------------------------- The world, you see, is not really as corrupt as people like to believe. ------------------------------- Email: Peter.Pregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at WWW: http://www.risc.uni-linz.ac.at/people/ppregler
From: "Dr. Thomas Marchioro" <tlm@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What size hard drive for Black NS 3.3 developer? Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:36:03 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <339ED3F3.370D0DBA@u.washington.edu> References: <5nku4r$i4b$1@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------65C3C4CE552ED4AD88D08AEC" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------65C3C4CE552ED4AD88D08AEC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jonathan Badger wrote: > I'm considering buying a used NeXT Station or Cube to play with now > that the prices are quite reasonable. My question is what size hard > disk do I realistically need to use the development system? I see > machines for sale with 100MB, 250MB, 400MB, and 1.0GB drives. Because > the NeXT will only be a hobby machine for me, I want to spend as > little as possible but still have a useable system. > > Also, just how noticeable is the difference between the Turbo and > non-Turbo systems? I'm not talking number crunching here, I'm just > talking using the system interactively. Would I regret not getting a > Turbo system? > > Jonathan Badger Based on my experiences (and I've owned or used all of the standard machines NeXT ever made) I would recommend strongly that you get Turbo with 400 Mb disc for what you are talking about. The Turbo systems are much more sprightly, particularly in terms of blasting graphics to the screen. If all you want is to use it for E-mail and other text-based actions then the non-turbo is okay, although if you are going to get color I would again recommend the Turbo option. I would also suggest the 400 Mb disc. 110 barely holds the OS, 250 will get by, but you have to be careful. At 400 Mb everything fits, and you have enough room left that it's not a worry. If it really is just a "hobby machine" then you don't want to be spending lots of time trying to make things fit. Feel free to write if you want more info. TLM --------------65C3C4CE552ED4AD88D08AEC Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Tom Marchioro Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Tom Marchioro n: Marchioro;Tom org: University of Washington email;internet: tlm@u.washington.edu x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE end: vcard --------------65C3C4CE552ED4AD88D08AEC--
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Conversion from WriteNow 2.0 to WinWord7 Date: 11 Jun 1997 16:49:36 GMT Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <5nmkv0$75m$2@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> References: <5nmg5s$2a0e@alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <5nmg5s$2a0e@alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>, Peter.Pregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Peter Pregler) writes: > - Is it possible to export WriteNow documents with a decent character > set, Even in some form of ASCII-format? If just want the text. Save it in any char format and use GNU`s recode to get all the german umlaute right. Recode knows a lot of character sets. z.B.: recode next:latin1 my_text.txt Bernhard
From: Robert Gibson Jacobs <rjacobs@leland.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pine on NeXTStep 3.3 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 17:43:52 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Sender: rjacobs@adelbert7.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970611174230.21339A-100000@adelbert7.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a binary somewhere for Pine that will run on NS 3.3? If not, has someone successfully built it for NeXTStep? I haven't had much luck doing it on a fairly standard system. Thanks for any help. Robert rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu
From: mmalcolm crawford <Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Difference between Developer and Developer Upgrade Date: 10 Jun 1997 09:01:42 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5nj55m$psb$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5nfie7$s99@slip.net> In-Reply-To: <5nfie7$s99@slip.net> On 06/09/97, Emmett McLean wrote: >What is the difference between OS "Developer" and >"Developer Upgrade" ? > Umm, Upgrade is an upgrade from a previous version, if you bought it... Best wishes, mmalc. --
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From: atl2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: Partition weirdness after 4.1 install Date: 12 Jun 1997 02:59:09 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <5nnolt$1c0c@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Hi all! This has me stumped... I installed OS 4.1 on my new Dell Optiplex PPro, with a 4095MB internal SCSI drive. So, I told the installation program to put OpenStep on a 2.5GB partition, and to reserve the remaining 1.5GB for DOS. Now my system is up and running, and fdisk reports exactly the partitions I originally ordered. But the problem is that regardless of what fdisk reports, according to OpenStep, the 2.5 GB of OpenStep space appears to be distributed amount sd0a, sd0b, and sd0c; each reports about 800MB. sd0a is the root partition. The 1.5 GB DOS partition appears not to exist at all, from OpenStep's perspective. If it's any help... the Workspace InfoPanel reports "Disk: 0MB". What on earth is going on? Can I stop it? Cheers! Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: atl2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Matrox Woes: Help! Date: 12 Jun 1997 02:47:57 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <5nno0t$15g2@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Hi all, I know this one comes around regularly...I even kept an archive of old posts in anticipation of the arrival this week of my PPro system with a 4MB Matrox Millenium. But I can't seem to figure out what I need to do. The problem: When my system has finished booting and starts the WindowServer, I get a black screen with any Millenium setting EXCEPT 640x480, 8bpp, 60Hz. Now, I know this has something to do with memory mapping (whatever that is); I have more than 32MB (128MB) on my system. The trouble is, I have no idea which of the expert settings to change, nor how to change them. My pathetic efforts have so far resulted only in system panics on boot-up. Help, anyone? Cheers, Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu
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From: james@himselfx.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 12 Jun 1997 07:10:13 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5no7cl$olp$72@nw001.infi.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <5no7cl$olp$72@nw001.infi.net> Control: cancel <5no7cl$olp$72@nw001.infi.net> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Thu Jun 12 13:34:14 1997 Original subject was: Nude Cheerleaders over there?
From: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu (Brian K. Meadows) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pine on NeXTStep 3.3 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 18:56:21 GMT Organization: Applied Chaos Lab Message-ID: <33a0423f.132816323@news.gatech.edu> References: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970611174230.21339A-100000@adelbert7.Stanford.EDU> On Wed, 11 Jun 1997 17:43:52 -0700, Robert Gibson Jacobs <rjacobs@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote: >Is there a binary somewhere for Pine that will run on NS 3.3? If not, has >someone successfully built it for NeXTStep? I haven't had much luck doing >it on a fairly standard system. Thanks for any help. > >Robert >rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu > Our lab runs Pine (with Pico as the editor). We've used the this version of Pine under both NextStep 3.3 and OpenStep 4.0 on Intel hardware. I can send you a copy of the compiled programs vial email. Brian Meadows ______________________________________ Brian K. Meadows Applied Chaos Laboratory School of Physics Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, GA 30332-0430 phone: (404) 894-1448 fax: (404) 894-9958 email: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu WWW: http://acl.gatech.edu ______________________________________
From: Evan M Benoit <benoit+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Network processes when logged out Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:34:46 -0400 Organization: Sophomore, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <cnc0Y6K00iVC02mMw0@andrew.cmu.edu> Hey Everyone, I've run into a snag trying to get this network monitoring application to work on a NeXT box. The application is called Big Brother, and what it does is check the disk space and processes running on the machine it runs on (a NeXT box) and send the results over the network to the server (some unix box). It sends updated information every 5 minutes. My problem is, when I'm logged into the NeXT box it works fine, but when I log out, it stops updating its stats on the server. The process is still running on the client, though. When I log back into the NeXT box, it resumes updating, like nothing had happened. It's weird, and it hasn't happened on any other OS's I've ran this thing on. Can anyone out there give me a hand? Is there some interuption of network functions when the user logs out? Any way to work around that? Any wild guesses? Thanks a lot! -ev ---EVAN BENOIT--- loved by good feared by evil ware problem (defective card, slot, etc ...) Ciao, Thomas -- || Who: Dipl. Phys. Thomas Hensel MIKS - Meteorologische Informations- || EMail: thomas@bibo.met.FU-Berlin.DE und Kommunikations-Systeme || Voice: (+49 30) 838 71 225 an der Freien Universitaet Berlin || FAX: (+49 30) 791 90 02 Schmidt-Ott-Str. 13 - 12165 Berlin
From: mrb@server.berkeley.edu (Brendan Bolles) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pine on NeXTStep 3.3 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:53:52 -0700 Organization: UC Berkeley Message-ID: <mrb-1206971253520001@haas-s300s005.haas.berkeley.edu> References: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970611174230.21339A-100000@adelbert7.Stanford.EDU> I have it working of NS 3.1 with no problems. It's just a shell program, so I don't forsee any difficulties. I got it here: <ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/pine.3.92.NIHS.bs.tar.gz> Note: this is a 20MB file that includes source code and much else. All you wind up needing are the binary files for pine and the related applications that come with it (pico, etc.). Together, those binaries take up 500k or so, I believe. Brendan Bolles mrb@server.berkeley.edu In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.970611174230.21339A-100000@adelbert7.Stanford.EDU>, Robert Gibson Jacobs <rjacobs@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote: > Is there a binary somewhere for Pine that will run on NS 3.3? If not, has > someone successfully built it for NeXTStep? I haven't had much luck doing > it on a fairly standard system. Thanks for any help. > > Robert > rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu
From: Nobert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Openwrite and spelling Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 14:27:49 +0200 Organization: European Southern Observatory Message-ID: <339E99C5.5C89@eso.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I upgraded from NS 3.3 to 4.1 a few weeks ago, and I have just noticed that the spell checker does not work under Openwrite.... It used to work under 3.3, and still does for any of the other NS applications I have except under Openwrite.. I was wondering if anyone else was suffering from this problem, and if so, how it can be fixed... (I am using the latest version of openwrite, i.e. 2.1.8...) Thanks NOr -- --------------------------------------------------------- Norbert Pirzkal E-mail: npirzkal@eso.org European Southern Observatory Karl-Schwarzschild-Strasse 2 D-85748 Garching bei Muenchen, Germany ---------------------------------------------------------
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pine on NeXTStep 3.3 Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 13:46:17 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970612134545.793A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> References: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970611174230.21339A-100000@adelbert7.Stanford.EDU> <33a0423f.132816323@news.gatech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Brian K. Meadows" <bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu> In-Reply-To: <33a0423f.132816323@news.gatech.edu> For some reason pine 3.92 wouldn't compile, but version 3.96 worked just fine. Thanks for the response. Robert On Thu, 12 Jun 1997, Brian K. Meadows wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jun 1997 17:43:52 -0700, Robert Gibson Jacobs > <rjacobs@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote: > > >Is there a binary somewhere for Pine that will run on NS 3.3? If not, has > >someone successfully built it for NeXTStep? I haven't had much luck doing > >it on a fairly standard system. Thanks for any help. > > > >Robert > >rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu > > > > Our lab runs Pine (with Pico as the editor). We've used the this > version of Pine under both NextStep 3.3 and OpenStep 4.0 on Intel > hardware. I can send you a copy of the compiled programs vial email. > > Brian Meadows > ______________________________________ > Brian K. Meadows > Applied Chaos Laboratory > School of Physics > Georgia Institute of Technology > Atlanta, GA 30332-0430 > phone: (404) 894-1448 > fax: (404) 894-9958 > email: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu > WWW: http://acl.gatech.edu > ______________________________________ > >
From: "Robert Dromgoole" <robertd@roi-intl.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Opportunity!!! Date: 12 Jun 1997 23:17:21 GMT Organization: ROI International Message-ID: <01bc7786$69146ac0$dda699cf@roiserver.accessone.com> My name is Robert Dromgoole, and I'm writing from ROI International. ROI is an executive search firm that specializes in wireless telecommunications. I'm currently conducting a retained search for a Senior Design Engineer for the company Tektronix, you may have heard of them, they are one of the top test equipment manufacturers in the world. They have a relatively new wireless division that's been in place for about 4 years. In fact, that division was the first to release a CDMA test set to market. They're looking to expand this division and in order to do so need some new talent. Specifically, they are looking for an engineer who has Real-time Embedded Systems Hardware/Software design experience to help with CDMA test equipment enhancements. Would you know of anyone who might be interested? The position would be located in the Portland, OR area. I would greatly appreciate any assistance. If you have some questions about ROI feel free to call, or check out our web site at www.roi-intl.com. Thanks for your time, Robert Dromgoole ROI International robertd@roi-intl.com Project Coordinator (206) 248-5000
From: info@scribex.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Offline News Reader? Date: 13 Jun 1997 02:34:41 GMT Organization: SPC Message-ID: <5nqbk1$6ju$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> References: <199706082143181820290@rhrz-isdn2-p5.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> In-Reply-To: <199706082143181820290@rhrz-isdn2-p5.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Check out NewsFlash at: http://www.scribex.com/ A great news reader! =============== On 06/08/97, Dirk Theisen wrote: > Hello! > > Is there an offline news reader available for NS / OS/Mach? > > Regards, > > Dirk > > -- > Computer Science, University of Bonn, Germany > http://titan.informatik.uni-bonn.de/~theisen/ >
From: izidor.jerebic@select-tech.si Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs. OPENSTEP 4.2 Date: 12 Jun 1997 11:49:48 GMT Organization: SELECT Technology Message-ID: <5nonos$d8f$1@lazar.select-tech.si> References: <5n8fto$9gv$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> In article <5n8fto$9gv$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> kc@ignem.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) writes: > other people it might not be worth it.) > > has felt sluggish for quite a while), but unfortunately it isn't quite > as stable as 3.3 was. (My lookup daemon occasionally crashes, after > which email to this machine bounces until I reboot. Pretty annoying.) This was big problem in 4.1. Is it not fixed in 4.2 ? If not, then 4.2 is rather useless for anything else besides pure client machines (no nfs, mail serving, netinfo, ... ). izidor
From: markfr@markfr .cse.tek.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Price for Openstep on NT? Date: 13 Jun 1997 00:43:30 GMT Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR USA Distribution: USA Message-ID: <5nq53i$qnj$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> I was under the impression that Openstep on NT would cost $1500.00. When our purchasing agent called the Next folks, they said that we would also have to buy the deployment software for $3,800.00!! Does anyone know what is going on? -- Mark Frank mark.s.frank@tek.com
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs. OPENSTEP 4.2 Date: 13 Jun 1997 05:13:21 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5nqkth$gn0@news.tamu.edu> References: <5n8fto$9gv$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <5nonos$d8f$1@lazar.select-tech.si> NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Jun 1997 05:13:21 GMT <izidor.jerebic@select-tech.si> wrote: >> as stable as 3.3 was. (My lookup daemon occasionally crashes, after >> which email to this machine bounces until I reboot. Pretty annoying.) > >This was big problem in 4.1. Is it not fixed in 4.2 ? If not, then 4.2 is >rather useless for anything else besides pure client machines (no nfs, >mail serving, netinfo, ... ). For a while now I have been running the 4.2 version of the lookup daemon under OpenStep 4.0, and everything was fine until something caused two crashes in the past week. These both occurred at the same time on the same day of the week, and in the end I think I have traced it to an improper crontab entry (associated with a SafetyNet scheduled back up that I created with every day left unselected---SafetyNet warned me but I didn't listen). I won't be sure that this was the problem until 4:15 am next Wednesday :-( There's another problem I've been getting too, but I think I'll post separately about that. -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HELP! weird emacs behavior Date: 13 Jun 1997 05:21:04 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5nqlc0$gpp@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Jun 1997 05:21:04 GMT I'm running OpenStep on black hardware and sporadically I have been getting a problem when starting up emacs, which bombs out with the message "Illegal instruction" and screws up the tty (no character echo on input and no carriage return, just linefeeds). Any further attempts to run that copy of emacs will cause the same problem on other ttys too. But here's the really weird thing: if I run another copy of the executable (e.g. from the cd-rom) it runs fine. I have now taken to keeping a copy that I named emacs.clean on my disk drive and every time I get this problem (it happened twice today) I just cp it to /usr/bin/emacs and thenceforth everything runs fine (until the next time it happens!) The number of bytes on the screwed up copy of emacs is identical to the clean copy. Can anyone suggest an explanation for this bizarre behavior? Could I have a failing disk drive here? (But if so why would it affect only this program?) Thanks. -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: 3.3 or 4.x? Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 02:34:35 -0700 Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <jak-1306970234350001@ss7-16.inre.asu.edu> Apologies for the newbie question: I'm planning to get a mono turbo slab, and I'll be using it for some light web/ftp serving, print serving (to a small Mac network), and hopefully for developing. But I'm wondering: What version of NS should I get? What are the differences between 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, (which I guess is the minimum I should get) and 4.x? Rhapsody is supposed to be a superset of NS, so I can develop now on black hardware and recompiling will be all that's necessary, right? Will stuff I develop in 3.3 carry over, or would I have to have 4.x? I've been looking through the www resources for OS version comparisons, but haven't found anything. If someone could point me to a resource with the answer, or just tell me, I'd appreciate it. Oh yeah, and cost is a factor. If you have NS Developer (or even User) to sell, I'll consider buying it. thanks john -- --- - ------- ------- The real in us is silent; the acquired is talkative. - Kahlil Gibran jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Conversion from WriteNow 2.0 to WinWord7 Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 13 Jun 1997 14:45:54 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5nrmf2$9o2$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5nmg5s$2a0e@alijku04.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> Peter Pregler (Peter.Pregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at) wrote: > we have the following problem. We use WriteNow 2.0 and want to change > to WinWord 7. The problem is of cause that we want to convert or files > or at least have some way to convert things on demand. Principally, > one can export RFT from WriteNow but that does export things in the > NeXT character set so German umlaute are not exported correctly. Why anybody would want to move to WinWord 7 is beyond me.. However, there's a simple fix to your problem. Store to RTF and run the RTF file through the following Perl script: #!/usr/local/bin/perl -p s/\331/\344/g; s/\366/\374/g; s/\360/\366/g; s/\205/\304/g; s/\226/\326/g; s/\232/\334/g; s/\373/\337/g; You could also use the Gnu "recode" program. Again, my humble advice is to avoid WinWord if at all possible. While other Microsoft products exist that are quite usable, WinWord can be a real PIA for editing anything beyond a short 4 page letter. Your mileage may vary. Regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: pekeler@luck.shnet.org (Christian Pekeler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Successor to OS 4.2? Date: 13 Jun 1997 10:07:16 GMT Organization: private Message-ID: <5nr64k$l2@luck.shnet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Now that OS 4.2 final seems to ship I would like to know the name of its successor. Is it Rhapsody which was anounced to be released in 1998, or will there be something like OS 4.3 shipping earlier then Rhapsody? Is OS 4.2 final different from its latest gamma version (aka prelude to Rhapsody) or is it like OS 4.1, where Lantern4S is identical to 4.1 final? Thanks for any info. Christian
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tape Drives and SafetyNet Date: 13 Jun 1997 15:48:46 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <5nrq4u$44t$1@news.istar.ca> I've a pressing problem that needs to be figured out quickly. I have a DAT drive and some files that need to be restored from tape. I'm having difficulty getting SafetyNet 2.1 (a tape archiving utility) to recognize when a tape is inserted into the drive. When the machine boots up, the SCSI controller does recognize the DAT drive. Also, when I do an autodetect in SafetyNet, it finds the drive. However, I can't figure out how to get SafetyNet to restore files from tape; it doesn't seem to see when new tapes are inserted. (The /etc/mtab file doesn't have an entry for the drive, so I guess tapes are not automounted.) I'm using an Archive Python 28388 DAT drive that is unofficially supported by NeXT and officially supported by SafetyNet. Any ideas on how to get this thing to work? -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -==- jsamson@istar.ca (NeXTmail & MIME welcome) -=============- http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul -=============- -===================================================================- "Microsoft is a fact of life. They're like the air we breathe. Perhaps a better analogy is bottled water, because you have to buy it." -- Steve Jobs, Apple Computer's Worldwide Developers Conference, May 16th, 1997 -===================================================================-
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Offline News Reader? Date: 13 Jun 1997 16:42:29 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5nrt9l$98g$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <199706082143181820290@rhrz-isdn2-p5.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <5nqbk1$6ju$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> In-Reply-To: <5nqbk1$6ju$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> On 06/12/97, info@scribex.com wrote: >On 06/08/97, Dirk Theisen wrote: >> Is there an offline news reader available for NS / OS/Mach? > > >Check out NewsFlash at: http://www.scribex.com/ > >A great news reader! While I won't argue that NewsFlash is a great news-reader (I wrote it after all :-) I feel obligated to point out that, out of the box, NewsFlash is not an "offline" news-reader which is what Dirk was asking for. NewsFlash requires a "live" connection to a NNTP server. However, any newsreader, including NewsFlash, can be turned into an "offline" newsreader by installing a local nntp-server which sucks down the newsgroups you are interested in from your ISP periodically (during off peak hours if you're concerened about cost) and then serves them up to a newsreader at your convenience. The easiest way to do this is to use the package PersonalINN. If you're daring you can build the complete INN package yourself (there are some hints on how to do this on www.stepwise.com). - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: pine 3.96 available compiled for NIHS Date: 13 Jun 1997 15:46:15 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5nrq08$88n$1@bashir.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Robert Gibson Jacobs <rjacobs@leland.Stanford.EDU> I have convinced PINE to compile quad fat. ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/pine.3.96.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/pine.3.96.README and linked to ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/pine.3.96.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/pine.3.96.README You can find source code at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/ This contains only pine. It does not contain mtest, imapd, pico, or pilot. I will try to build quadfat versions of those and make them available also. However, putting them all into one file would have been huge. See the file 'CPYRIGHT' and 'README' inside the tar.gz for more information TjL <luomat@peak.org> ps -- this has been lightly tested (it starts) under NSFIP NOTE: the md5sum of the COMPRESSED version is: 0a7e1514abb873503e4025dd1129435b pine.3.96.NIHS.b.tar.gz ls -l reports a size of '2163497' (that's about 2.1 megs) -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html sed 's/End\ of\ sig/pithy\ quotation/g'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Fabien_Roy@no.spam.free.fdn.fr (Remove no.spam to reply) Subject: Re: Dillema! Message-ID: <EBqBtG.DIL@free.fdn.fr> Sender: news@free.fdn.fr Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant. References: <33A0B201.58EF@holly.colostate.edu> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 19:36:52 GMT Danny Wang <catalyst@holly.colostate.edu> wrote: > Help! > > We bought NS 3.3 on a bargin price, but the seller didn't state that it > was for NeXT and not Intel. The CD-ROM says it's for NeXT and Intel, but > the boot floppy is for NeXT only. Short of contacting NeXT themselves > for a floppy, is there anyway someone here can help out? > > -- > Bow down before the Devilution.... > ------------------- > We welcome the birth of Catalyst. The world will never burn the same. > catalyst@devilution.com info@devilution.com > http://www.devilution.com/ If you got the latest Rom monitor (usualy found on motherboard with four 72 pins SIMS) you can boot directly from the CD: 1) get in the monitor 2) type bsd(1,0,0) - rootdev=sd1 Et voila! -- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 (0)1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 (0)1 48 55 09 90 GSM: 33 (0)6 60 46 36 83
From: jon@haveman.org (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Dillema! Date: 13 Jun 1997 20:18:38 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5ns9uu$mcd@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <EBqBtG.DIL@free.fdn.fr> Remove no.spam to reply writes > Danny Wang <catalyst@holly.colostate.edu> wrote: > > Help! > > > > We bought NS 3.3 on a bargin price, but the seller didn't state that it > > was for NeXT and not Intel. The CD-ROM says it's for NeXT and Intel, but > > the boot floppy is for NeXT only. Short of contacting NeXT themselves > > for a floppy, is there anyway someone here can help out? > > > > -- > > Bow down before the Devilution.... > > ------------------- > > We welcome the birth of Catalyst. The world will never burn the same. > > catalyst@devilution.com info@devilution.com > > http://www.devilution.com/ > > If you got the latest Rom monitor (usualy found on motherboard with four 72 > pins SIMS) you can boot directly from the CD: > 1) get in the monitor > 2) type bsd(1,0,0) - rootdev=sd1 An alternative is to make a boot floppy for Intel. You can download one from the NeXT web pages....actually, I found it easier going to ftp.next.com. Look for the boot floppy image. Oops, look at the web pages for instructions on how to make the boot floppy. Once you've done that, you're good as gold. Cheers - Jon -- Jon Haveman
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: cmsg cancel <5ns28e$88n$2@bashir.peak.org> Control: cancel <5ns28e$88n$2@bashir.peak.org> Date: 13 Jun 1997 18:11:33 GMT Organization: Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc Message-ID: <5ns2gl$88n$3@bashir.peak.org>
From: sroller@txpsmc.seanet.com (Steve Roller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs. OPENSTEP 4.2 Date: 14 Jun 1997 00:32:05 GMT Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <5nsoq5$cgq@q.seanet.com> References: <5mupti$gg4$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970602115218.17745B-100000@kira> Cc: luomat@peak.org In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970602115218.17745B-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma wrote: > 4.2 is probably EOL for NeXT hardware, despite all hopes to the contrary > (does anyone think there will even be a 4.3 OpenStep before Rhapsody?). > One might hope that it has been 'tweaked' for max performance on NeXT > hardware.... I spoke to our NorthWest Apple/NeXT rep, and he said that Openstep will continue into newer releases in the future - no dates set... It appears that 4.2 OpenStep is the last release for the NeXT hardware systems. On 6/11/97 Our PSNUG presented a NeXTstation Turbo on OS 4.1 (72MB RAM) at a Seattle dBUG meeting. We noticed noticed facinations of running multiple occurances of the molecule.app for young students, but saw some hesitation during periods of it's presentation. We will return this machine back to the OS3.3 release for future presentations. The Intel platform will provide the horsepower for Openstep Developers of the future (or maybe we will see a version for PPC?) Steve ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Stephen V. Roller <sroller@roller.seanet.com> Stop by and visit at: Puget Sound NeXT Users Group http://www.seattle.net/~nextpsug/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Suggestions on connecting to ISP with PPP connection Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 13 Jun 1997 20:14:12 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5nt2a4$be@slip.net> Hi, Could someone provide some suggestions on how I should go about connecting my NeXT Cube to my ISP with a ppp connection? Ah, I have a fresh install of NS 3.3 User/Dev. Ah, also have another cube. So in addition at some point I'd like to get these two machines to talk to each other as well. Ah, I don't have time to read a research paper on exactly what ppp and slip are. What I'd like would be a set of readings explaining how to set up my network, which IP addresses I should use for the two boxes, which NeXT Tools should be used for various administrative tasks. That or just some email advice. Thanks, Emmett
From: david@daikin-comtec.com (David J Harr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where to get Lighthouse Design software license numbers? Date: 14 Jun 1997 06:52:31 GMT Organization: The programmers whose computers say NEE! Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Keywords: software license key I've been playing with the OpenStep software for the last few weeks, and I've decided that I want to make this my primary machine. I've been busy raping all the archives of the cool shareware and commercial demos, and I would really like to buy several products from Lighthouse Design. Being a programmer myself, I am very sensitive to the illegality of piracy. So, I try and be a good citizen by calling up the folks at Lighthouse and asking them to sell me some license numbers for the legacy products I have downloaded off their ftp site. "No" they tell me. "No??!!" I ask. "We are not selling any further licenses for these products. If one of our existing customers calls and asks for a new license number because they have to move a product onto a couple of new machines, we will see about it, but we will not sell one to you. If you know someone who has a copy of the products that you are interested in, talk to them and see if they can call and get a new serial number. In any case, we can guarantee that the SPA will not come hunting for you regarding irregularities with the licensing process. We are simply not interested in these products any more." So, are there any kind souls out there who have licenses for WetPaint, OpenWrite, Diagram, EquationBuilder and/or Quantrix who would be willing to tell a little white lie to Lighthouse so I can buy these apps? Failing that, does anyone have a license number they are not using they would be willing to sell? Thanks. David -- David J Harr | mailto://david@daikin-comtec.com Senior MPEG Engineer | http://www.scenarist.com Daikin US Comtec Labs | vox: 415.893.7800 999 Grant Avenue | fax: 415.893.7807 Novato, CA 94945 | "This space intentionally blank" I've been on the bleeding edge for so long, I'm down three pints...
From: Danny Wang <catalyst@holly.colostate.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Dillema!(solved!) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 00:45:35 -0600 Organization: Devilution Development Message-ID: <33A23E0D.3D83@holly.colostate.edu> References: <EBqBtG.DIL@free.fdn.fr> <5ns9uu$mcd@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Danny Wang <catalyst@holly.colostate.edu> wrote: > > > Help! > > > > > > We bought NS 3.3 on a bargin price, but the seller didn't state that it > > > was for NeXT and not Intel. The CD-ROM says it's for NeXT and Intel, but > > > the boot floppy is for NeXT only. Short of contacting NeXT themselves > > > for a floppy, is there anyway someone here can help out? Requoting myself here, but I'd just like to say thanks to everyone who's replied to me and helped me out. NeXT is running great on the computer and well, thanks again! :) -- Bow down before the Devilution.... ------------------- We welcome the birth of Catalyst. The world will never burn the same. catalyst@devilution.com info@devilution.com http://www.devilution.com/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: 3.3 or 4.x? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EBqGCo.IHH@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 1997 21:14:48 GMT References: <jak-1306970234350001@ss7-16.inre.asu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <jak-1306970234350001@ss7-16.inre.asu.edu>, John Kestner <jak@asu.edu> wrote: > >But I'm wondering: What version of NS should I get? What are the >differences between 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, (which I guess is the minimum I >should get) and 4.x? 3.2 is the bare minimum you should get, with 3.3 perferable. 4.x (4.2 preferably) should be OK on a Turbo machine as long as you put 64MB or more RAM in it. >Rhapsody is supposed to be a superset of NS, so I can develop now on black >hardware and recompiling will be all that's necessary, right? Will stuff I >develop in 3.3 carry over, or would I have to have 4.x? > Well, it's hard to say exactly what will be required in addition to a recompile. But, at a minimum, your code must be OPENSTEP-based, not NeXTSTEP-based. In that case 4.x is the only way to go. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: pjb@nospam.imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to get Lighthouse Design software license numbers? Date: 14 Jun 1997 12:06:12 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5nu1fk$g6m@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> In article <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> david@daikin-comtec.com (David J Harr) writes: > > I've been playing with the OpenStep software for the last few weeks, and I've > decided that I want to make this my primary machine. I've been busy raping > all the archives of the cool shareware and commercial demos, and I would > really like to buy several products from Lighthouse Design. Being a > programmer myself, I am very sensitive to the illegality of piracy. So, I try > and be a good citizen by calling up the folks at Lighthouse and asking them > to sell me some license numbers for the legacy products I have downloaded off > their ftp site. "No" they tell me. "No??!!" I ask. "We are not selling any > further licenses for these products. If one of our existing customers calls > and asks for a new license number because they have to move a product onto a > couple of new machines, we will see about it, but we will not sell one to > you. If you know someone who has a copy of the products that you are > interested in, talk to them and see if they can call and get a new serial > number. In any case, we can guarantee that the SPA will not come hunting for > you regarding irregularities with the licensing process. We are simply not > interested in these products any more." > > So, are there any kind souls out there who have licenses for WetPaint, > OpenWrite, Diagram, EquationBuilder and/or Quantrix who would be willing to > tell a little white lie to Lighthouse so I can buy these apps? Failing that, > does anyone have a license number they are not using they would be willing to > sell? So here we hve actual proof that a company may become uninterested in its products anymore. I can understand in that case that they would not bother to give on the net some licence numbers for use by anybody for any of their uninteresting software. And therefore, that any kind of restriction to copying software should be forbidden by law. It that case, it would never be illegal to copy a software, and as much concerned you may be about the illegality of piracy, such a thing would not exist anymore. Now you know what to ask to your representant. __Pascal Bourguignon__
From: Tony Scott<summer@laoffices.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Distributors Wanted NOW!! Date: 14 Jun 1997 15:07:03 GMT Organization: World Wide Pants Promotion Message-ID: <5nuc2n$84p$7663@cadmium.aware.nl> Hi, This is a Solicitation Email, we are looking for new TUFF'97 DISTRIBUTORS. TUFF'97 is a promotional concept for a prospect follow-up system called "Simple Track". Software designed for Windows 95, 3.11 and NT machines. (Macintosh users read the NOTE below(*)) Concept: The TUFF'97 software includes a copy of Simple Track, so you can use this for your own personal administration (free). However, the TUFF'97 software is designed to give you BIG TIME credits for just taking the efforts to PROMOTE it. How do I get those credits?. Easy, just distribute/promote it. How? (Give away the software for free, put it on your website/homepage and let everyone download it. Give it to your friends, attach it by email etc). With a one time $40.00 (USD) validation code purchase, YOUR name becomes part of all sofware you sent out to your customers. When your TUFF'97 software gets validated, all your personal information is automatically integrated in the software, so everyone knows how to reach you by phone/fax or email and where to sent the check/money or cash orders. Basically this is the concept. Offcourse you need the software to grasp the whole thing. Believe it, there is absolutely no marketing knowledge required, just ask for the software package, join and start promoting your own TUFF'97 line. The only thing you DO need is a PC or Mac(*) and Internet. (*) TUFF'97 is only available for MacOS users running Connectix VirtualPC or Insignia's Sofwindows 95/3.11. A true MacOS version is not available. When you're interested in becoming a TUFF'97 distributor and create your own distribution line, sent a mailto:FiReStArTeR@frodo.com and ask for your copy of the TUFF software (We'll sent you a download location and install instructions). This is a serious opportunity, so only serious responses are processed. If you're not interested, have a nice day. Best Regards, Tony Scott Worldwide Pants Promotions 24H Support/Download requests, mailto:FiReStArTeR@frodo.com voice:(+01)779 698 4655 Fax :(+01)779 698 4555
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5nuc2n$84p$7663@cadmium.aware.nl> Date: 14 Jun 1997 17:40:06 GMT Control: cancel <5nuc2n$84p$7663@cadmium.aware.nl> Message-ID: <cancel.5nuc2n$84p$7663@cadmium.aware.nl> Sender: Tony Scott<summer@laoffices.com> Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970614.03. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970614.03.html for complete report. Original Subject: Distributors Wanted NOW!!
From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 vs. OPENSTEP 4.2 Date: 9 Jun 1997 17:08:48 GMT Organization: GENIFI Message-ID: <5nhdb0$qpe$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970602115218.17745B-100000@kira> Do you think that Apple will deliver a Rapsody version for Black Hardware ? I'm not interested by performance on that sort of hardware, because my primarily interest is Quick Time Media Layer, JAVA, and NeXTStep/OpenStep Apps like the Quantrix'multidimensional spreadsheet, word processor, and EOF with SGBD for small bases. I don't care of the "best performance" I just want to have station at different locations (house, work, vacations, ...) like an NC. I think that a NeXT Color Station is a very good NC for small companies like mine. Do you think that Apple could hear that message and produce a compatible version for Black Hardware or sell a compatible motherboard at very low price for NeXT aficionados ? Best regards
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: 3.3 or 4.x? Message-ID: <EBrBq0.BwL@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <jak-1306970234350001@ss7-16.inre.asu.edu> Date: Sat, 14 Jun 1997 08:32:24 GMT In article <jak-1306970234350001@ss7-16.inre.asu.edu> jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) writes: > > Apologies for the newbie question: > > I'm planning to get a mono turbo slab, and I'll be using it for > some light web/ftp serving, print serving (to a small Mac network), > and hopefully for developing. > > But I'm wondering: What version of NS should I get? What are the > differences between 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, (which I guess is the > minimum I should get) and 4.x? Rhapsody is supposed to be a > superset of NS, so I can develop now on black hardware and > recompiling will be all that's necessary, right? Will stuff I > develop in 3.3 carry over, or would I have to have 4.x? > 3.0 -> 3.1 was a big change in the kernel (for the sake of additional hardware architectures), 3.2 is the release if you'd want to run SUNs or HPs natively, and 3.3 is the most stable release for PC hardware (and has the best bug fix status for black, also). All apps developed on a 3.3 will run under OS, too. But not the other way 'round. And the apps would not make use of OS features. OS 4.0 is ridden of bugs, esp. in the developer tools. OS 4.1 and 4.2 are said to be better, but I can't confirm since I spared the money for the upgrade (after NeXT taking all that money for OS 4.0 Dev and then asking for additional bucks to pay for the bug fix I dropped out). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Best ppp ? ppp2.2, Gatekeeper, or MorningStarPPP ? Compatibility ? Date: 14 Jun 1997 14:07:35 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5nv16n$igi@slip.net> Hi, I'm interested in recommendations as to what is the best ppp package for NS 3.3 on blackhardware. Ah, I'd like to get going with ppp soon which means that one of the public packages, ppp2.2 or Gatekeeper is best suited to my immediate needs, but since I have TTYDSP, I'm considering purchasing MorningStarPPP. Ah, will MorningStarPPP be incompatible with either ppp2.2 or Gatekeeper? Thanks, Emmett
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BUG FIX (Re: Script for NeXT Addresses -> pine adresslist) Date: 14 Jun 1997 15:13:57 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5nucfl$qp8$2@bashir.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii nm2pine v 1.0.0 had a really incredibly dumb bug in it that caused all the Private Users to have the same email address as the last Private Group. v.1.2 has been uploaded to peak.org TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html sed 's/End\ of\ sig/pithy\ quotation/g'
From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: GSPrintFilter and Netware Printers? Date: 14 Jun 1997 21:21:07 GMT Message-ID: <5nv203$22rk@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Hi all, The subject line says it all. Can it be done? I have had no success so far... Cheers! Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: NOSPAM.michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper, remove 'NOSPAM.' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Dillema! Date: 14 Jun 1997 17:43:00 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5nul74$6de$5@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <33A0B201.58EF@holly.colostate.edu> Danny Wang <catalyst@holly.colostate.edu> wrote: >We bought NS 3.3 on a bargin price, but the seller didn't state that it >was for NeXT and not Intel. The CD-ROM says it's for NeXT and Intel, but >the boot floppy is for NeXT only. Short of contacting NeXT themselves >for a floppy, is there anyway someone here can help out? Get NextAnswers 1921 "Creating_FDs_From_Images_Under_NEXTSTEP_and_DOS.rtf" and follow the instructions. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: ptwareck@the-wire.com (Piotr Twarecki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: getopts source code Date: 15 Jun 1997 03:39:47 GMT Organization: -the-Wire- in Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <5nvo63$jp2$1@news.the-wire.com> Hi! Does anyone have any pointers on where to find source code for getopts, for use with /bin/sh scripts? Thanks! -- Piotr Twarecki <ptwareck@the-wire.com> (NeXTMail and MIME welcome)
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <14012865742421@digifix.com> Date: 15 Jun 1997 03:57:19 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <3108866347221@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Dillema! Date: 13 Jun 1997 20:56:48 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5nsc6g$d98$2@bashir.peak.org> References: <33A0B201.58EF@holly.colostate.edu> <EBqBtG.DIL@free.fdn.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: catalyst@holly.colostate.edu In <EBqBtG.DIL@free.fdn.fr> Remove no.spam to reply wrote: > Danny Wang <catalyst@holly.colostate.edu> wrote: > > We bought NS 3.3 on a bargin price, but the seller didn't state that it > > was for NeXT and not Intel. The CD-ROM says it's for NeXT and Intel, but > > the boot floppy is for NeXT only. Short of contacting NeXT themselves > > for a floppy, is there anyway someone here can help out? > If you got the latest Rom monitor (usualy found on motherboard with four 72 > pins SIMS) you can boot directly from the CD: > 1) get in the monitor > 2) type bsd(1,0,0) - rootdev=sd1 I think Mr Wang has an Intel, not a NeXT. The Intel cannot boot right off the CD. I think this is the right diskimage: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/1886.compressed I think 1886 is for Intel because this is the one for NeXT hardware http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/2071.compressed You might want to read: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1921.htmld/1921.html TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html sed 's/End\ of\ sig/pithy\ quotation/g'
From: max@maxgraphic.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for Quicken, etc Date: 15 Jun 1997 07:43:43 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <5o06ff$amt$1@brokaw.wa.com> In an effort to migrate my personal tasks from Mac to NeXTstation, I'm trying to find Quicken or a Quicken-compatible app for NS 3.3 black. Did Intuit ever make a NeXT version? Any free/shareware solutions? Also, are there any ClarisWorks-level simple database apps out there? I'm also looking for a simple spreadsheet. I have SC, but would prefer something with a GUI. Thanks.
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From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Offline News Reader? Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 11:42:09 +0200 Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Bonn, Germany Message-ID: <1997061511420914900@rhrz-isdn2-p16.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> References: <199706082143181820290@rhrz-isdn2-p5.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <5nqbk1$6ju$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5nrt9l$98g$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> Hello Chris, thanks for explaining. Christopher Wolf <cwolf@wolfware.com> wrote: > However, any newsreader, including NewsFlash, can be turned into an > "offline" newsreader by installing a local nntp-server which sucks > down the >newsgroups you are interested in from your ISP periodically > (during off peak hours if >you're concerened about cost) and then > serves them up to a newsreader at your convenience. The easiest way to > do this is to use the package >PersonalINN. How does this affect performance and resource requirements? Dirk -- Computer Science, University of Bonn, Germany http://titan.informatik.uni-bonn.de/~theisen/
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From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What's using bandwidth? Date: 15 Jun 1997 03:16:40 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5nvmqo$68v$1@bashir.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What's the standard tool/method for measuring what/who is using bandwidth? TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html sed 's/End\ of\ sig/pithy\ quotation/g'
From: NOSPAM.michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper, remove 'NOSPAM.' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP! weird emacs behavior Date: 15 Jun 1997 12:23:04 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5o0mr8$ad6$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5nqlc0$gpp@news.tamu.edu> colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) wrote: >I'm running OpenStep on black hardware and sporadically I have been >getting a problem when starting up emacs, which bombs out with the >message "Illegal instruction" and screws up the tty (no character echo >on input and no carriage return, just linefeeds). Any further >attempts to run that copy of emacs will cause the same problem on >other ttys too. But here's the really weird thing: if I run another >copy of the executable (e.g. from the cd-rom) it runs fine. I have >now taken to keeping a copy that I named emacs.clean on my disk drive >and every time I get this problem (it happened twice today) I just cp >it to /usr/bin/emacs and thenceforth everything runs fine (until the >next time it happens!) The number of bytes on the screwed up copy of >emacs is identical to the clean copy. Why don't you try a 'cmp emacs.clean /usr/bin/emacs' to see, if the original version is corrupted? Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Tape Drives and SafetyNet Message-ID: <EBtrCu.5us@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5nrq4u$44t$1@news.istar.ca> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 16:05:17 GMT In article <5nrq4u$44t$1@news.istar.ca> jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul Samson) writes: > I've a pressing problem that needs to be figured out quickly. I have > a DAT drive and some files that need to be restored from tape. I'm > having difficulty getting SafetyNet 2.1 (a tape archiving utility) to > recognize when a tape is inserted into the drive. > SafetyNet 2.1 is rather old. I hope my SafetyNet Pro 2.6beta works the like... Have you ever considered an upgrade? SafetyNet works through index files that control the archival and retreival of files (they end in .arch). You open such an archive and then choose the Reteive function from the menu. SafetyNet then scans the tape header for a tape archive matching the index file and complains if you inserted the wrong one. If you don't have a valid index file for the given tape archive you need to build one first by creating a new one and chose to rebuild from tape archive trough the appropriate dialog function. > When the machine boots up, the SCSI controller does recognize the DAT > drive. Also, when I do an autodetect in SafetyNet, it finds the > drive. However, I can't figure out how to get SafetyNet to restore > files from tape; it doesn't seem to see when new tapes are inserted. > (The /etc/mtab file doesn't have an entry for the drive, so I guess > tapes are not automounted.) I'm using an Archive Python 28388 DAT > drive that is unofficially supported by NeXT and officially supported > by SafetyNet. > Only partitions on hard drives get mounted. Since a tape is no medium that holds a filesystem partition it will not show up there. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Offline News Reader? Date: 15 Jun 1997 19:22:26 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5o1fdi$j54$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <199706082143181820290@rhrz-isdn2-p5.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <5nqbk1$6ju$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5nrt9l$98g$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> <1997061511420914900@rhrz-isdn2-p16.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> In-Reply-To: <1997061511420914900@rhrz-isdn2-p16.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> On 06/14/97, Dirk Theisen wrote: >Hello Chris, > >thanks for explaining. > >Christopher Wolf <cwolf@wolfware.com> wrote: >> However, any newsreader, including NewsFlash, can be turned into an >> "offline" newsreader by installing a local nntp-server which sucks >> down the >newsgroups you are interested in from your ISP periodically >> (during off peak hours if >you're concerened about cost) and then >> serves them up to a newsreader at your convenience. The easiest way to >> do this is to use the package >PersonalINN. > >How does this affect performance and resource requirements? I'm not sure where you're going with the performance part of the question... performance while reading news from a local server is much better. Since articles are already being stored locally reading isn't bottlenecked by the bandwidth to your ISP or by an overloaded nntp server at the ISP's end. If you meant how does running a nntp server on the machine affect the performance of that machine for other tasks - it depends on how much news your handling and how frequently you schedule tasks such as fetching new news or expiring articles. My local newsserver is currently running on a NeXTStation Turbo (with 96M of RAM and 1G disk) and the turbo has no problem handling it. (The turbo also serves as a NFS server, runs PPP, and I use it for mail, IRC and other fairly lightweight tasks) It's recieving a fairly small feed (about 40 groups) and it pulls down new news every 10 minutes. While it's pulling down news I don't notice any performance decrease on the slab - the only way I'm aware of it is that I see the modem lights flickering. The expire and other maintenance gets scheduled in the early morning when I'm asleep so whatever performance hit that has doesn't impact my use of the machine. In terms of resources that depends on how many groups you're handling and how long you wish to retain the articles in each of those groups. I'm receiving 44 (non-binary) groups and keeping all articles in those groups for 14 days and it requires around 50 megs of disk space. - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP! weird emacs behavior Date: 15 Jun 1997 20:41:17 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5o1k1d$9po@news.tamu.edu> References: <5nqlc0$gpp@news.tamu.edu> <5o0mr8$ad6$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Jun 1997 20:41:17 GMT Michael Pieper, remove 'NOSPAM.' for reply <NOSPAM.michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de> wrote: >Why don't you try a 'cmp emacs.clean /usr/bin/emacs' to see, if the original >version is corrupted? Jolly good idea---I'll do it next time I get a problem. I've been using unix for over a dozen years now and never knew of cmp. That's why I love these newsgroups. Thanks! -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: Marcus Urban <mathpup@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP and NS Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 21:30:56 -0800 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <33A4C180.426B@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've tried for several days unsuccessfully to get PPP to work under NS, but I haven't been successful. The whole process is a nightmare, and I would appreciate some help with this. On top of all the other configuration issues, I have to get CHAP to work with it to connect to the provider. Are other people not having to deal with CHAP, or are they just getting things configured more easily? This seems like the final nail in the coffin of my NS experience, to be quite honest. It's a really nifty OS, which I first saw at my university, but I've just about had it as far as a useable operating system for an average person. Applications are few and far between, and they're not priced reasonably. Wolfram refuses to make Mathematica available for NS at a student price, so I've forced to use the Windoze version anyway. It's all pretty grim.
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How do I use HyperTeXview with Postscript Fonts? Date: 16 Jun 1997 14:00:48 GMT Organization: InterNetNews at News.BelWue.DE (Stuttgart, Germany) Message-ID: <5o3gug$rn7$1@news.belwue.de> References: <5nfeo7$fh1$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> On 8 Jun 1997 23:20:39 GMT, Chris Roehrig <croehrig@cs.ubc.ca> wrote: >Hi all, > >HyperTeXview (kp-0.30) keeps wanting to invoke MakeTeXPK to build a font >(ptmb7t) using times.sty. After much poking around, I'm guessing this is >because I have an incomplete psfonts.map file (which is ok for dvips since it >finds the appropriate .vf file, but it looks like TeXview only checks the >psfonts.map file). > >I'm using the standard teTeX 4.0 distribution, fresh out of the box. > >Can anyone give me a clue how to update my psfonts.map file to fix this? The kp-0.30 release seems to have some problems with teTeX 0.4. The easiest solution is to stick with kp-0.25 unless teTeX 0.9 is released. I have no clue when this will be ;-). If you want to try 0.30 now: The problem is certainly not with psfonts.map, but with texmf.cnf. TeXview has problems resolving the configurations and therefore falls back to its defaults. You might try to set the according values from the command line (e.g. "export TEXMF=..." or "export TEXMFCNF=..." etc) and look if that makes a difference. Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | | flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | | "We will make windows invisible" |
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: pine hangs opening Active.mbox Date: 15 Jun 1997 18:19:33 GMT Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada Message-ID: <5o1bnl$ht3$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> I've set up pine 3.91 to access NeXTmail mboxes. Works fine with the INBOX, but whenever I try to open Active, pine says 'Oopening Active mailbox' and hangs (it never opens, have to cancel the process). I have 3000+ items in Active. Could this be the reason? Anyone else have this problem? -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (NeXTmail OK) Psychology Dept York University Voice: 416 736-5118 Fax: 416 736-5814 4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep coexisting with Windows 95? Date: 16 Jun 1997 17:11:07 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <5o3s3b$10o$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <3398F94E.6E3E@cco.caltech.edu> <339ee4a0.43299506@news.gatech.edu> FYI Here's what I did: I have a 4GB drive. The partitions are 1 - 457 MB 95 (2nd) 2 - 1600 MB NT (3rd) 3 - 2048 MB Mach (1st) 4 - 63 MB The numbers may not be exact. I installed Mach on partition 3, 95 on 1 and NT on 2. Using Disk Administrator under NT, I set partition 3 to be "active" so that I would boot into Mach 4.2. In Mach, I issued this command as root: fdisk /dev/rsd0h -bootsectorOnly -useBoot0 -setNeXTActive And that was it. Now when I boot I press '1' for NT (whose menu lets me boot either NT or 95) and 'n' for Mach. The only problem I have is that Mach will only mount the first FAT file system. So I can't see my NT partition from Mach--only the 95. Actually, one other problem I have is that when I copied a 50MB file from Mach to 95 it would perform the copy but the directory entry for the file would give the size as 0 bytes making the file unusable. The file was there however as CHKDSK would pick up the problem. I believe this is just a general FAT file system support problem in Mach. -- Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck --------------------------------------------------------------------- chuck_esterbrook@orcacomputer.com / vo 540 231-3475 / fx 540 231-3480 Orca Computer, Inc. / 1800 Kraft Dr. Suite 111 / Blacksburg, VA 24060
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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPP and NS Date: 16 Jun 1997 15:11:08 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5o4dls$5p1@slip.net> References: <33A4C180.426B@worldnet.att.net> In article <33A4C180.426B@worldnet.att.net>, Marcus Urban <mathpup@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >I've tried for several days unsuccessfully to get PPP to work under NS, >but I haven't been successful. The whole process is a nightmare, and I >would appreciate some help with this. On top of all the other >configuration >issues, I have to get CHAP to work with it to connect to the provider. > Which version of ppp did you set out to install? Gatekeeper? ppp2.1 ? Where did you get it? I gather that being on a budget it is not MorningStar PPP. Anyway, if you can dish out 400$ for MorningStar PPP you can get full free support for 3 months. You can also set you machine up so others can call and dial into it. However, if you are setting up an ISP or something like that you'll have to pay for the 800$ version. >Are other people not having to deal with CHAP, or are they just getting >things configured more easily? > What is CHAP? >This seems like the final nail in the coffin of my NS experience, to be >quite honest. It's a really nifty OS, which I first saw at my >university, >but I've just about had it as far as a useable operating system for an >average person. Applications are few and far between, and they're not >priced reasonably. Compared to Windows, I agree. At universities NeXT is the OS of choice because so much scientific documentation is in postscript and because you get the BSD4.3 which is great for compiling public domain C code. It is also great because you don't have to mess with a Windows IDE, just write a makefile an go. > Wolfram refuses to make Mathematica available for >NS at a student price, so I've forced to use the Windoze version anyway. I suggestion you post on c.s.n.m. I got Mathematica 2.1.2 for 75$. You can upgrade this to the professional version for 325$. Beats paying the full price. >It's all pretty grim. Sorry to hear that. Emmett
From: ewright@naif-sun.jpl.nasa.gov (Ed Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem compiling PERL5.0004 on NexT, NS 3.3 Date: 16 Jun 1997 19:17:33 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA) Distribution: world Message-ID: <5o43gd$k2f@netline.jpl.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Keywords: PERL 5, evil symbol table I have a problem when trying to compile PERL5.0004 on a NextStation TurboColor running NS 3.3. This is my first try at installing a PERL distribution from scratch. I run configure, then the make as per instructions. There are no apparent problems until the Fcntl module attempts to build. At this point I get undefined symbol problems. The ouput is as follows Making Fcntl (dynamic) Writing Makefile for Fcntl Skip ../../lib/Fcntl.pm (unchanged) ../../miniperl -I../../lib -I../../lib ../../lib/ExtUtils/xsubpp -noprototypes -typemap ../../lib/ExtUtils/typemap Fcntl.xs >Fcntl.tc && mv Fcntl.tc Fcntl.c cc -c -DUSE_NEXT_CTYPE -O -DVERSION=\"1.03\" -DXS_VERSION=\"1.03\" -I../.. Fcntl.c Running Mkbootstrap for Fcntl () chmod 644 Fcntl.bs LD_RUN_PATH="" ld -o ../../lib/auto/Fcntl/Fcntl.none Fcntl.o ld: Undefined symbols: _Perl_croak _errno _strncmp _strcmp _Perl_stack_sp _Perl_markstack_ptr _Perl_stack_base _Perl_na _Perl_sv_2pv _Perl_sv_2iv _Perl_sv_newmortal _Perl_sv_setnv _Perl_Sv _Perl_form _perl_get_sv _Perl_newXS _Perl_sv_yes *** Exit 1 Stop. *** Exit 1 Stop It looks like I have left out a library somewhare. Anyone have any ideas what I am doing wrong and how to fix the problem? As always Ed Wright NAIF Group ewright@cardamon.jpl.nasa.gov Wild nights are my glory..
From: planetary <kris@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep coexisting with Windows 95? Date: 16 Jun 1997 17:50:20 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5o4jfs$sld@xmission.xmission.com> References: <3398F94E.6E3E@cco.caltech.edu> <339ee4a0.43299506@news.gatech.edu> Brian K. Meadows <bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu> wrote: : I've had a lot of luck using System Commander 3.0 as my boot program. : Right now I've got a DOS/WIM95/WNT/Next3.3/OpenStep4.0 all running on : the same computer. For $35 its a good investment. Unfortunately, SysCom doesn't work if NS / NT are on different disks, so be sure to get a really big disk. ............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
From: Marcus Urban <mathpup@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPP and NS Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:23:16 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <33A5D8F4.309C@worldnet.att.net> References: <33A4C180.426B@worldnet.att.net> <5o4dls$5p1@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Emmett McLean wrote: > Which version of ppp did you set out to install? Gatekeeper? ppp2.1 ? > Where did you get it? > > I gather that being on a budget it is not MorningStar PPP. > > Anyway, if you can dish out 400$ for MorningStar PPP you can > get full free support for 3 months. You can also set you machine > up so others can call and dial into it. > > However, if you are setting up an ISP or something like that > you'll have to pay for the 800$ version. The package from Stephen Perkins. I can't know the version number off the top of my head, and I'm in Windoze at the moment (can't use Internet from NS), so it's not easily available. > What is CHAP? CHAP is a type of authentication protocal. > I suggestion you post on c.s.n.m. I got Mathematica 2.1.2 for > 75$. You can upgrade this to the professional version for 325$. I'm probably going to dump NS for Linux. At least Mathematica is available for Linux at reasonable prices ($99 student price).
From: Bob Cook <bobcook@rhea.slac.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pine hangs opening Active.mbox Date: 16 Jun 1997 17:28:47 -0700 Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Message-ID: <2rena2xebj.fsf@rhea.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> References: <5o1bnl$ht3$1@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: > I've set up pine 3.91 to access NeXTmail mboxes. Works fine with the > INBOX, but whenever I try to open Active, pine says 'Oopening Active mailbox' > and hangs (it never opens, have to cancel the process). > > I have 3000+ items in Active. Could this be the reason? Anyone else > have this problem? I just tried it with 681 items in Active.mbox/mbox; it worked fine. (This is pine 3.95.) -- Bob Cook (415) 926-2769 bobcook@slac.stanford.edu Stanford Linear Accelerator Center PGP public key: ftp://ftp.slac.stanford.edu/pgp/bobcook/bobcook.publickey
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tape Drives and SafetyNet Date: 17 Jun 1997 00:59:27 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <5o4nhf$f74$1@dropit.pgh.net> References: <5nrq4u$44t$1@news.istar.ca> <EBtrCu.5us@nidat.sub.org> In article <5nrq4u$44t$1@news.istar.ca> jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul Samson) writes: > I've a pressing problem that needs to be figured out quickly. I have > a DAT drive and some files that need to be restored from tape. I'm > having difficulty getting SafetyNet 2.1 (a tape archiving utility) to > recognize when a tape is inserted into the drive. I missed the original post. However, I had a problem with a drive where the heads slipped out of alignment. I could write/read a new tape but I could not read an old tape. If you can write/read a new tape but you cannot read an old tape, this could be your problem. I got a very similar error on old tapes. Once I replaced the drive the problem went away. ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (t.balasubramanian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help: NeXTTeX.pkg for NextSTep3.2 on Intel. Date: 17 Jun 1997 01:52:59 GMT Organization: Brandeis University, Waltham MA Message-ID: <5o4qlr$rgr$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> Hi, Accidently I messed up the Tex on our system. The NeXTTex.pkg in receipts is also deleted. We have NeXTStep3.2 running on a Intel machine. I also seem to have misplaced our original CD Rom. If any one has a NeXTTeX.pkg and willing to share that will be appreciated. Please reply to balu@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu. Thanks Balu
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to get Lighthouse Design software license numbers? Date: 16 Jun 1997 19:09:26 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5o4rkm$mrs@slip.net> References: <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> <5nu1fk$g6m@belzebul.imaginet.fr> I hope someone is kind enough to send David a license number. One wonders if Sun purchased Lighthouse out of spite toward NeXT instead of because of an interest Lighthouse software. Emmett
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mac & OpenStep fonts Date: Mon, 16 Jun 1997 22:27:02 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Message-ID: <msg70913.thr-2e2861.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <msg70913.thr-2e2861.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> I've just acquired a new Black laser printer and have it connected to my = cube. Using Frank's CAPer application, all of the macs are now able to pr= int to the printer--many thanks to Frank for his work. Now here's my question. Please forgive my DTP ignorance. I can use Times,= Helvetica and Courier and get excellent results. Unfortunately I hate Ti= mes and Courier. How would I go about buying or acquiring fonts that woul= d work on both systems? In particular, I would love to get New Century Schoolbook for the cube so th= at I could use it to print to the black printer but I haven't found any p= ostscript version of it which could be installed ( on the mac I have True= Type versions but the postscript versions are in the ROM of Apple's printers). I've searched Peanuts for s= omething more pleasing to my eye, but found nothing. -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.cet.middlebury.edu
From: root@snaefell.tamu.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: failing disk? (Was Re: HELP! weird emacs behavior) Date: 17 Jun 1997 04:15:21 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5o530p$919@news.tamu.edu> References: <5nqlc0$gpp@news.tamu.edu> <5o0mr8$ad6$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Jun 1997 04:15:21 GMT In article <5o0mr8$ad6$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de>, Michael Pieper wrote: >>other ttys too. But here's the really weird thing: if I run another >>copy of the executable (e.g. from the cd-rom) it runs fine. I have >>now taken to keeping a copy that I named emacs.clean on my disk drive >>and every time I get this problem (it happened twice today) I just cp >>it to /usr/bin/emacs and thenceforth everything runs fine (until the >>next time it happens!) The number of bytes on the screwed up copy of >>emacs is identical to the clean copy. > >Why don't you try a 'cmp emacs.clean /usr/bin/emacs' to see, if the original >version is corrupted? snaefell> cmp emacs emacs.clean emacs emacs.clean differ: char 34711, line 120 Ok--so what does this mean? How can the executable copy of emacs get corrupted? Is this an early sign of disk failure? Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970616.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970609.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970602.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 16 Jun 1997 00:00:00 -0600 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Last-modified: 1997-Apr-03 FAQ-Last-modified: 1997-Jun-11 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> and also at <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to get Lighthouse Design software license numbers? Date: 17 Jun 1997 05:18:48 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5o56no$8vi@portal.gmu.edu> References: <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: bizzare Keywords: software license key In article <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com>, David J Harr <david@daikin-comtec.com> wrote: [snip] >really like to buy several products from Lighthouse Design. Being a >programmer myself, I am very sensitive to the illegality of piracy. So, I try >and be a good citizen by calling up the folks at Lighthouse and asking them >to sell me some license numbers for the legacy products I have downloaded off >their ftp site. "No" they tell me. "No??!!" I ask. "We are not selling any >further licenses for these products. If one of our existing customers calls >and asks for a new license number because they have to move a product onto a >couple of new machines, we will see about it, but we will not sell one to >you. If you know someone who has a copy of the products that you are >interested in, talk to them and see if they can call and get a new serial >number. In any case, we can guarantee that the SPA will not come hunting for >you regarding irregularities with the licensing process. We are simply not >interested in these products any more." This seems so weird that I mailed the "info" alias at lighthouse about it. Why anyone you were trying to give money to for a product, even if it was going to get no further version, bug fixes, support, whatever, wouldn't sell it to you is beyond me. Why they'd respond like that is beyond me as well. There's enough confusion surrounding lighthouse stuff to warrent a serious piece of mail to them asking for clarification on their current policy and intent for the apps, and for their future on the platform/OS so that's what I did. I also got the names of the people at the other end of the "info" alias, and told them that if they don't respond in 1 week I'd be posting them... (ahh the threat of public flagillation, it's such a wonderful tool ;) When I get mail back, and I'm confident I will, I'll quote and post the key points to it, and give decent contact information for them... Not that what you heard isn't true, but it seems real odd, given that I can distinctly remember reading within the last few months that they were still selling the stuff and information someone else had gotten about sales with a similar bizzare/negative response wasn't valid... Who knows, maybye they changed their minds. <shrug> if they arn't going to deal with the app, at least they're being sort of sensible about it. Tim
From: root@guzzibill.cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tape Drives and SafetyNet Date: 17 Jun 1997 01:28:12 GMT Organization: CADVision Development Corp. Message-ID: <5o4p7c$33u4@elmo.cadvision.com> References: <5nrq4u$44t$1@news.istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: jsamson@istar.ca In <5nrq4u$44t$1@news.istar.ca> Jean-Paul Samson wrote: > I've a pressing problem that needs to be figured out quickly. I have > a DAT drive and some files that need to be restored from tape. I'm > having difficulty getting SafetyNet 2.1 (a tape archiving utility) to > recognize when a tape is inserted into the drive. > > When the machine boots up, the SCSI controller does recognize the DAT > drive. Also, when I do an autodetect in SafetyNet, it finds the > drive. However, I can't figure out how to get SafetyNet to restore > files from tape; it doesn't seem to see when new tapes are inserted. > (The /etc/mtab file doesn't have an entry for the drive, so I guess > tapes are not automounted.) I'm using an Archive Python 28388 DAT > drive that is unofficially supported by NeXT and officially supported > by SafetyNet. > > Any ideas on how to get this thing to work? _____ This is basically a "rtfm" reply. The on-line help facility in SaftyNet is pretty darn good. If you have an archive of the tape's files already built, the restore should be a breeze...simply select the files you want restored in the Safety-Net browser window and click "restore" in the menu options. Safety-Net will then ask to have the proper tape mounted for the restore activity. If you do Not have an archive .... read up on how to create one, (this will ask for a tape mount too) and then the restore should be as before. Good Luck. -- Bill Scollard Calgary, Canada Scollard Holdings Ltd. "Computer Systems : Cradle-to-Grave"
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: software router for NextStep 3.3 (or better) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:45:04 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <EBwz35.J30@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <33A599C8.4D5D@annexmultimedia.com> In article <33A599C8.4D5D@annexmultimedia.com> Jeff Fedor <jfedor@annexmultimedia.com> writes: > Hi... > > I'm looking for a software-based router for black hardware. Something > similar to Vicom's product for the MacOS which allows me to route my > internet connection to other boxes on our LAN. If you just want a router, then you just set up routed currectly. It will then route (much like Vicom's Soft Router). It's all built in. However do do this you need one IP address for each machine, which expensive. However I suspect you want IP-Aliasing (aka Masquerading). Some of the other Vicom products (like surfdoubler) do this. You need this funcitonality if you want to connect several machines to one ip ADDRESS. As far as I know this is not available (though I'd expect it to be in a BSD 4.4 based release). $an
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:41:36 -0600 From: Thomas McCarthy <tmccarth@usc.edu> Subject: Upgrade.app ate my sister Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <866557502.6768@dejanews.com> Organization: University of Southern California I know I'm gonna miss her, Upgrade ate my sister. Okay, Upgrade.app didn't really eat my sister, but it ate some of the files that made my NeXT so nice to use, and now some things (like my PPP connection) don't work. I upgraded a color slab from 4.1 to 4.2. I looked through the upgrade plan and removed things I thought looked suspect, but some important things got thrashed anyway. I'd really appreciate any advice on how to repair these two problems: 1) My PPP connection no longer works. I think it "almost" works, though. Gatekeeper is still there, it starts, the icon is animated, etc, but the Diagnostics window shows...nothing. Not a single character. I can dial using "Dial" from the main menu, but "Connect" gets me nowhere. Any ideas on which crucial file was deleted/overwritten by Upgrade? Life without NeXTmail is not fun. I'll start having withdrawal symptoms soon... 2) My fonts are gone. Well, they aren't gone (they are still sitting in /NextLibrary/Fonts), but they are not showing up in my font panel. (They still appear in documents that already have them, however, and one of them is still my system font. Go figure.) Any ideas on how to get them back? Thanks in advance, Tom --- Thomas McCarthy tmccarth@usc.edu (No NeXTmail again....) -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: Serge Smadja <serge.smadja@der.edfgdf.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Drivers, more Drivers are needed Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:50:23 +0200 Organization: EDF - DER/IMA/ICI/ODI Message-ID: <33A6A42F.2577BC9F@der.edfgdf.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello All, I have installed OpenStep 4.1 on a G6 200XL from Gateway 2000, however my graphic adapter is a STB Virge velocity 3D and my network adapter is a 3COM Etherlink III PCI (PCI is very important) and it seems that there aren't adequate drivers on the CD or on the Next Site. Any help would be appriciated. Does anybody knows if those drivers will be available anytime soon. Thanks. -- Serge Smadja EDF - Direction des Etudes et Recherches - FRANCE Ingénieur Chercheur - Département Ingénierie de la Communication en Informatique Groupe Outils de Dialogue pour l'Informatique Tél : +33 (0)1 47 65 31 31 fax : +33 (0)1 47 65 35 23 email : serge.smadja@der.edfgdf.fr
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mac & OpenStep fonts Date: 17 Jun 1997 15:18:26 GMT Message-ID: <19970617151801.LAA24519@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <msg70913.thr-2e2861.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Frank Siegert? has been kind enough to release Font Converter, which is a NeXT program which will convert PC and Mac fonts to the NeXT. (BTW - Thanks! I owe you $5.00). He's the author of CAPer by the way. His web site is http://www.this.net/~frank You should be able to find this at Peak or one of the other FTP sites. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pine hangs opening Active.mbox Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 10:39:17 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970617103554.5497Q-100000@cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Bob Cook <bobcook@rhea.slac.stanford.edu>, friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca In-Reply-To: <2rena2xebj.fsf@rhea.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) writes: > I've set up pine 3.91 to access NeXTmail mboxes. Works fine with the > INBOX, but whenever I try to open Active, pine says 'Oopening Active mailbox' > and hangs (it never opens, have to cancel the process). In my experience this is usually a sign that Mail.app still has Active.mbox open, and thus has a lockfile, which it refuses to give up.... pine keeps trying. If this is the case, close Active.mbox and pine should see it. > I have 3000+ items in Active. Could this be the reason? Anyone else > have this problem? Good lordy. I think I have 3. Use procmail + appnmail! Anyway, that shouldn't be the problem. TjL ps -- I've compiled pine.3.96 (the last version before 4.x) and uploaded it to peak. It's about 2 megs I think, quadfat.
From: marcel@system.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Upgrade.app ate my sister Date: 17 Jun 1997 16:19:59 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5o6dff$sr3$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <866557502.6768@dejanews.com> In article <866557502.6768@dejanews.com> Thomas McCarthy <tmccarth@usc.edu> writes: > 2) My fonts are gone. Well, they aren't gone (they are still sitting in > /NextLibrary/Fonts), but they are not showing up in my font panel. (They > still appear in documents that already have them, however, and one of them > is still my system font. Go figure.) Any ideas on how to get them back? The fonts should be in /LocalLibrary/Fonts, not /NextLibrary/Fonts. The OS considers the /NextXXX directories its own playground and will muck around with it to its heart's content, as you've found out. Doing a buildafmdir would probably fix the problem, but moving the fonts is a much better solution. Marcel
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: software router for NextStep 3.3 (or better) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:32:46 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ondgcyy00iWm05lIo0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <33A599C8.4D5D@annexmultimedia.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 16-Jun-97 software router for NextSte.. by Jeff Fedor@annexmultimed > I'm looking for a software-based router for black hardware. Something > similar to Vicom's product for the MacOS which allows me to route my > internet connection to other boxes on our LAN. Take a look at 'man routed'. In particular, change the invocation of 'routed -q' in /etc/rc to 'routed -g'. Also take a look at 'man route'. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: davisre@best.com (Robert Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to get Lighthouse Design software license numbers? Date: 17 Jun 1997 11:58:33 -0700 Organization: floam Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5o6mop$fuv$1@shell5.ba.best.com> References: <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> <5o56no$8vi@portal.gmu.edu> Keywords: software license key Tim <tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu> wrote: > >There's enough confusion surrounding lighthouse stuff to warrent >a serious piece of mail to them asking for clarification on their >current policy and intent for the apps, and for their future on >the platform/OS so that's what I did. I also got the names of >the people at the other end of the "info" alias, and told them >that if they don't respond in 1 week I'd be posting them... >(ahh the threat of public flagillation, it's such a wonderful tool ;) > I hardly think these people are to blame or are responsible for either Lighthouse's direction or their own lack of response. They just take most of the heat. I think posting their names or email addresses would be misplaced aggression. Rob -- Rob Davis Work: davis@netmosphere.com Home: davis@coaster.com
From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PDF Viewer that handles password protection Date: 17 Jun 1997 19:30:52 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5o6olc$8o8@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 17 Jun 1997 19:30:52 GMT Name pretty much says it all. Does anyone know of a PDF viewer on Openstep 4.0 that can read Acrobat 3.0 files that have a password? OmniPDF doesn't seem to do it. Any pointer appreciated. Hanspeter Schaub schaub@tamu.edu -- Hanspeter Schaub Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant Aerospace Engineering Department Texas A&M University http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail,MIME,SUNmail and plain old ascii welcome) We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY! -Jonathon Livingston Seagull
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS May Quiz results Date: 17 Jun 1997 19:44:09 GMT Organization: Customer of EUnet/PING Austria Message-ID: <5o6pe9$bm5$1@news.Austria.EU.net> The SSS May Quiz has ended, and the winners are drawn! For the quiz answer as well as for the drawing results, visit http://members.ping.at/stefan/quiz.html As always, the winners will receive a free HelpViewer 1.3 *or* LatinByrd III license. SSS's Quiz of the Month goes on summer vacation! See you all after the break, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://members.ping.at/stefan/
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Drivers, more Drivers are needed Date: 17 Jun 1997 19:37:54 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5o6p2i$9qe$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <33A6A42F.2577BC9F@der.edfgdf.fr> In comp.sys.next.advocacy Serge Smadja <serge.smadja@der.edfgdf.fr> wrote: : Hello All, : I have installed OpenStep 4.1 on a G6 200XL from Gateway 2000, however : my graphic adapter is a STB Virge velocity 3D and my network adapter is : a 3COM Etherlink III PCI (PCI is very important) and it seems that there : aren't adequate drivers on the CD or on the Next Site. There is a generic driver for the Virge chipset, I would give it a try, maybe it works with your graphics card. There is no such thing an Etherlink III PCI adapter, at least not according to 3com's website. There is an Etherlink XL PCI adapter for which a driver is available: NeXTanswers #2165, #2166, #2534 HTH Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
From: ducroque@ufr-info-p7.ibp.fr (DUCROQUET Erwan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: an mp3 player for NextStation ? Date: 17 Jun 1997 19:48:12 GMT Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Message-ID: <5o6pls$ec7$1@vishnu.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Summary: mp3 player on Next ? Keywords: Next Player MP3 Does anybody know if a mp3 player exist for NextStation ? I have a decoder. The player "sndplay" plays only .au and .snd from file, not stdin. I work on a player getting the file sound from stdin, but i've no docs, only the include files. Thanks for any help. -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Ducroquet Erwan | |--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | email: ducroque@ufr-info-p7.ibp.fr | \------------------------------------------------------ That's all folks --/
From: "Your full name" <replace_your_name@mail.ttn.com.tw> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon,comp.sys.psion Subject: ¤j®a¨Óµo°] Date: 17 Jun 1997 19:57:39 GMT Organization: Taiwan Telecommunication Network Service Co., Ltd. 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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: an mp3 player for NextStation ? Date: 17 Jun 1997 21:12:56 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5o6uko$ovg$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5o6pls$ec7$1@vishnu.jussieu.fr> Cc: ducroque@ufr-info-p7.ibp.fr In <5o6pls$ec7$1@vishnu.jussieu.fr> DUCROQUET Erwan wrote: > > Does anybody know if a mp3 player exist for NextStation ? > > I have a decoder. > The player "sndplay" plays only .au and .snd from file, > not stdin. > > I work on a player getting the file sound from stdin, but i've no docs, only > the include files. > A NeXT Station is too slow to decode mp3 in realtime (even mono), maybe a highly optimized assembler version running on a turbo station can keep up, but then again such a decoder is unknown to me. I will make a m68k version of mpg123 available which can (in non real time) decode to a .snd file, you can play later using sndplay. For a Intel real time application (MMP Version 3 with a much improved UI) see http://www.this.net/~frank/franksprojects.html (keep in mind it is still beta software, so please provide feedback if you decide to use it). -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: getopts source code Date: 17 Jun 1997 22:45:28 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5o7428$9k6@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5nvo63$jp2$1@news.the-wire.com> ptwareck@the-wire.com (Piotr Twarecki) wrote: > Does anyone have any pointers on where to find source code for getopts, for > use with /bin/sh scripts? Thanks! if it's OK for you to use /usr/bin/zsh: it has getopts built in. Tschau Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon,comp.sys.psion From: le@put.com (Louis Epstein) Subject: Re: ¤j®a¨Óµo°] Distribution: inet Followup-To: comp.sys.northstar Organization: Putnam Internet Services Message-ID: <EBy1tp.Ly3@nonexistent.com> References: <01bc7b59$5462d400$84b046cb@cs.ncku.edu.tw> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 23:41:49 GMT Your full name (replace_your_name@mail.ttn.com.tw) wrote: [snip] : ¨Ï¥Îºô´º NETSCAPE ªº¨Ï¥ÎªÌ : : 1)¥´¶}NETSCAPE NEWS¡A¦bºô´ºÂsÄý¾¹¤¤(Netscape Navigator)¤¤±q¥\¯à¿ï³æ : ¤¤¿ï¨úWindowsA¦A¿ï¨úNETSCAPE : NEWS¡A§Y¥i±Ò°ÊNETSCAPENEWS¡CµM«áÂI¨ú³Ì¥ªÃ䪺«ö¶s¡yTO Netscape? On a Northstar??
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Upgrade.app ate my sister Date: 18 Jun 1997 01:05:08 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5o7c84$pci@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <866557502.6768@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: tmccarth@usc.edu In <866557502.6768@dejanews.com> Thomas McCarthy wrote: > I know I'm gonna miss her, Upgrade ate my sister. Okay, Upgrade.app didn't > really eat my sister, but it ate some of the files that made my NeXT so > nice to use, and now some things (like my PPP connection) don't work. > george: Upgrade didn't eat your sister! I've seen your sister! paul: That's my other sister... john: who's the lady? -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PPP and NS Date: 18 Jun 1997 01:19:53 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5o7d3p$pci@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <33A4C180.426B@worldnet.att.net> <5o4dls$5p1@slip.net> <33A5D8F4.309C@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: mathpup@worldnet.att.net In <33A5D8F4.309C@worldnet.att.net> Marcus Urban wrote: > > The package from Stephen Perkins. I can't know the version number off > the > top of my head, and I'm in Windoze at the moment (can't use Internet > from > NS), so it's not easily available. > > 1. from windoz, go to www.thoughport.com 2. get pointers to join ppp list, (part of which states that you shouldn't try to get help from usenet before trying to get help from the list). 3. fix things real good 4. be happy, fruitful, multiplied > I'm probably going to dump NS for Linux. At least Mathematica is > available for Linux at reasonable prices ($99 student price). > never tried Linux, sure it's terrific, but give NS another chance, through proper channels. understand that the NS community is small and woefully underfunded. but at the end of the day, we're an OK group. and NS is pretty terrific, too. -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com
From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Drivers, more Drivers are needed Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 19:29:42 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970617192657.15187C-100000@saul5.u.washington.edu> References: <33A6A42F.2577BC9F@der.edfgdf.fr> <5o6p2i$9qe$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros In-Reply-To: <5o6p2i$9qe$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Predicate: Whose triangle is it? On 17 Jun 1997, Axel Habermann wrote: > There is no such thing an Etherlink III PCI adapter, at least > not according to 3com's website. There is an Etherlink XL PCI > adapter for which a driver is available: Ah, but I have one on my shelf. 3C590. The lack of drivers for this card under NEXTSTEP is a common complaint here. ok -r
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video Subject: CuSeeMe and NeXT Dimension Date: 17 Jun 1997 20:38:12 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5o7l74$ert@slip.net> Hi, Is there an adapter of some sort which will answer a telephone, recognize a CuSeeMe signal, and send a video signal to a video port on a NeXT Dimension or MAC? Thanks, Emmett
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PDF Viewer that handles password protection Date: 18 Jun 1997 06:15:30 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <5o7ue2$bue@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <5o6olc$8o8@news.tamu.edu> In article <5o6olc$8o8@news.tamu.edu> schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub) writes: >Name pretty much says it all. Does anyone know of a PDF viewer on Openstep >4.0 that can read Acrobat 3.0 files that have a password? OmniPDF doesn't >seem to do it. PDFViewer.app by Detlev Droege has the standard decrypter plugin/bundle: Import from: ftp://ftphost.uni-koblenz.de/outgoing/People/droege/ Careful with the bundle. Do not put this on a US FTP site, or you may get a visit from those government agencies. It's apparently OK to import this "munition" from foreign countries where they are freely available. From the README file: Standard.pdfcrypt.tar.gz This is the decryptor bundle for PDFViewer (since version 0.99) and the PDF.bundle for Netsurfer 2.0 (since Sept. 18, 1996). For PDFViewer, the bundle (Standard.pdfcrypt) may be placed in either of the following directories: PDFViewer.app # the application wrapper itself ~/Library/PDFViewer /LocalLibrary/PDFViewer For the Netsurfer PDF bundle the following directories may be used: Netsurfer.app # the application wrapper itself PDF.bundle # inside the PDF bundle itself ~/Library/Netsurfer /LocalLibrary/Netsurfer The name "Standard" refers to the "Standard" encryption filter as specified for Adobe Acrobat PDF documents. Adobe Acrobat software contains this [en/de]crypt filter as default. Detlev Droege, droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de
From: NOSPAM.michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper, remove 'NOSPAM.' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Offline News Reader? Date: 18 Jun 1997 08:52:36 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5o87kk$gt0$2@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <199706082143181820290@rhrz-isdn2-p5.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <5nqbk1$6ju$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5nrt9l$98g$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> <1997061511420914900@rhrz-isdn2-p16.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) wrote: >Christopher Wolf <cwolf@wolfware.com> wrote: >> However, any newsreader, including NewsFlash, can be turned into an >> "offline" newsreader by installing a local nntp-server which sucks >> down the >newsgroups you are interested in from your ISP periodically > >How does this affect performance and resource requirements? I'm running an INN on my 486/40 20MB Linux ISDN router standing under my table. I get about 50 different newsgroups (including control) which makes about 15.000 articles and between 20 and 30 MB a day. I get news using UUCP because of its good compression (daily batches are about 5 MB) and high telephone costs here in Germany. I'm polling between one and three times a day. The next lines are result of a call on a system running since about 30 days: nexusgate:~$ ps -auxw USER PID %CPU %MEM SIZE RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND news 135 1.5 19.4 5104 3660 ? S May 17 717:51 /usr/lib/news/etc/innd -p4 -i0 news 15858 0.0 1.5 772 296 ? S 16:12 0:14 /usr/lib/news/bin/overchan news 17312 0.1 6.8 1680 1284 ? S 09:59 0:03 -nexus1.tng.oche.de body While sorting in a news batch, the system subjectively lacks performance (articles are decommpressed and sorted in). If I am pulling news via suck directly from my ISPs server, I notice no performance decreases. This could be because no decompression is needed. The news system occupies about 100MB of harddisk space including history and log files. I'm holding articles for 7 days, control is expired after 1 day. I'd say, if you plan to install a news server with the dimensions of my one (it's really not a big one), you should spend more than 32MB memory to your machine if you don't want to feel performance losses. If you do news pulling and expiring by night, it should be fine. Performance of local reading is really good :-) And you can be the news server for more than one reader. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Upgrade.app ate my sister Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 09:28:37 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970618091447.10489D-100000@cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> References: <866557502.6768@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Thomas McCarthy <tmccarth@usc.edu> In-Reply-To: <866557502.6768@dejanews.com> On Tue, 17 Jun 1997, Thomas McCarthy wrote: > 1) My PPP connection no longer works. I think it "almost" works, though. > Gatekeeper is still there, it starts, the icon is animated, etc, but the > Diagnostics window shows...nothing. Not a single character. I can dial > using "Dial" from the main menu, but "Connect" gets me nowhere. Any ideas > on which crucial file was deleted/overwritten by Upgrade? Life without > NeXTmail is not fun. I'll start having withdrawal symptoms soon... Checkout /etc/ppp/ pppd or chat might have been in there, or your options file.... > 2) My fonts are gone. Well, they aren't gone (they are still sitting in > /NextLibrary/Fonts), but they are not showing up in my font panel. (They > still appear in documents that already have them, however, and one of them > is still my system font. Go figure.) Any ideas on how to get them back? Did you add fonts to the /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? That's a no-no. You should have put them in /LocalLibrary/Fonts which probably would have survived the upgrade. It's probably one of these: .afmcache .fontdirectory .fontlist that has been over-written. Put your special fonts in /LocalLibrary/Fonts. TjL's Suggestions on ``How to Arrange Your Stand-Alone NeXT'': Rather than change /NextApps /NextLibrary or /NextDeveloper you should make /Local* counterparts, such as /LocalApps. New binaries should not go into /usr/bin but /usr/local/bin, etc. Basically you want to change as little as possible of what originally shipped, and put your changes into other folders. (That part is pretty much gospel-truth, so to speak) Additionally, if I file in /etc/ or some other system directory _must_ be changed (and some do, such as /etc/resolv.conf) then I: If the file is part of the standard distribution (in a non-mathematical sense ;-) - rename the original file (if there is one) to name.ORIG - copy /path/name.ORIG to /usr/local/links/path/name (Or if the file doesn't exist, create it there in /usr/local/links/path/) - link /usr/local/links/path/name to /path/name For example: /etc/fstab, if I wanted to change it, would go like this: mv /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.ORIG cp /etc/fstab.ORIG /usr/local/links/etc/fstab ln -s /usr/local/links/etc/fstab /etc/fstab This way I a) always have the original file there b) if I accidentally delete the file in /etc/ I've only deleted a link c) can easily re-link files after an upgrade. NOTE: /usr/local/links should be on the same drive/partition as / if you are going to move any system files onto it, for safety's sake TjL
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace.app as Preferences module or command line version? Date: 18 Jun 1997 14:12:28 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97May22120337@ra.one.net> References: <5llfsp$54b@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> <5ln5b4$1i@hal.nexttoyou.de> <5m0vfs$9ov$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> In-reply-to: NO_SPAM.michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de's message of 22 May 1997 08:18:04 GMT In article <5m0vfs$9ov$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de>, NO_SPAM.michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) writes: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> wrote: >Well thanks, yes, I know. Although Fiend.app is very cool (I even >like the icon...), it is an overkill for my needs. The original >dock offers just enough place for the apps I need most of the >time. The only thing disturbing me is the fact that I need to >start a full application for having my screen protected from >burning in (yes I know the unix tools darkening the screen but >that's no elegant solution). IMHO a preferences module would be >ideal because Preferences.app is running here all the time. Hhm, why don't you just use the Preferences screen dimmer? You can find it in the Display Preferences section and it works lik a charme for me: the screen becomes black. Another not-so-elegant solution is to add BackSpace.app (full path, to the BackSpace executable) to your Workspace LaunchPaths default. Mine looks like: Workspace LaunchPaths \ /Users/scott/Apps/TickleServices.app/TickleServer.daemon;\ /Users/scott/Library/Preferences/Background.preferences/Backgrounder.daemon;\ /NextDeveloper/Demos/BackSpace.app/BackSpace;\ /Users/scott/Library/Preferences/MouseMagic.preferences/mouse_magic_daemon The \-newlines were added for readability - it should really be one long line. Remember to quote appropriately if there are spaces in any names. Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: does NEXTSTEP run on the new Pentium II? Date: 18 Jun 1997 14:12:34 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97May22194619@ra.one.net> References: <5m26gp$4fs$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> <3384B6D0.D589C344@exis.net> In-reply-to: "Jeffrey S. Flowers"'s message of Thu, 22 May 1997 17:12:48 -0400 In article <3384B6D0.D589C344@exis.net>, "Jeffrey S. Flowers" <dagdagh@exis.net> writes: Gregg E. Dinse wrote: > Does NEXTSTEP run on the new Pentium II machines? > > If so, is the pentium II a step up or a step down from the > pentium pro for running NEXTSTEP? The Pentium II is merely a Pentium Pro with MMX instructions, running at a greater speed. NEXTSTEP should run faster due to the higher clock speed. For now, there are three main considerations. The clock speed on a PentiumII can be higher than that of a PentiumPro, which is a plus. The L1 cache is larger (16k+16k) and has somewhat faster, which is also a plus. But the L2 cache runs at half the internal bus speed, which is a minus. As compensation, you get 512k of cache rather than 256k (not considering the 512k PentiumPro, which costs 2x a 256k PentiumPro). How's that all add up? Windows benchmarks (www.esc-ca.com/notbenmb.htm and sysdoc.pair.com/pentiumII.html) indicate that a PentiumII at 233Mhz may be up to 10% faster than a PentiumPro at 200Mhz, and PentiumII at 266Mhz may be another %6-%8 faster than that. Unfortunately, Windows benchmarks have to be taken with a grain of salt. PentiumII also adds certain optimizations for 16-bit code, which Windows tends to have a lot of, while NeXTSTEP has none of. So NeXTSTEP may not gain as much as the benchmarks might indicate. Windows NT benchmarks don't give me enough of a warm fuzzy feeling - I'm waiting for Linux-based benchmarks to appear somewhere, say a kernel compile comparison. Personally, I'm not sure the premium for PentiumII is justified by the performance, as of yet. For awhile, it's likely that PentiumPro will be the better price/performance chip, if only because nobody wants it (everyone wants speed, _speed_, SPEED). Might be worth purchasing a PentiumII motherboard with a PentiumPro adapter, though, so you can upgrade later. [Of course, they'll probably charge half the delta between PPro and PII for the adaptor, making it worthless as an option.] Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXHost an app, reset Private Server, app still works---secure? Date: 18 Jun 1997 14:12:36 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97May22194833@ra.one.net> References: <5m2hjb$4ua$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In-reply-to: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU's message of 22 May 1997 22:33:15 GMT In article <5m2hjb$4ua$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) writes: I just opened up an application on a remote NeXT machine, and NXHosted the app back to my principle machine. The app displayed fine. However, I then when into Preferences.app and checked the box for Private Window server. The app still seems to work. Is my machine now secure? Sure. Public Window Server just determines if remote systems can find the window server - essentially whether the window server is an advertised service or not. Once connected, it's all mach ports, and it no longer makes a difference what you set public window server to. Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: guenther@onevision.de (Guenther Fuerthaller) Subject: Re: PDF Viewer that handles password protection Message-ID: <EByzLB.7IE@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5o6olc$8o8@news.tamu.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:51:11 GMT Have a look at PDFView the most complete reader. Available at http://www.bitart.com/PDFView or the peanuts server in Munich Germany. In article <5o6olc$8o8@news.tamu.edu> schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub) writes: > Name pretty much says it all. Does anyone know of a PDF viewer on Openstep > 4.0 that can read Acrobat 3.0 files that have a password? OmniPDF doesn't > seem to do it. > > Any pointer appreciated. > > Hanspeter Schaub > schaub@tamu.edu > -- > Hanspeter Schaub > Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant > Aerospace Engineering Department > Texas A&M University > http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub > schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail,MIME,SUNmail and plain old ascii welcome) > > We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY! > -Jonathon Livingston Seagull
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger) Subject: Re: Upgrade.app ate my sister Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <EBzL65.48u@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> Sender: news@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de Cc: tmccarth@usc.edu Organization: none References: <866557502.6768@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 19:37:16 GMT In <866557502.6768@dejanews.com> Thomas McCarthy wrote: > I know I'm gonna miss her, Upgrade ate my sister. Okay, Upgrade.app didn't > really eat my sister, but it ate some of the files that made my NeXT so > nice to use, and now some things (like my PPP connection) don't work. > > I upgraded a color slab from 4.1 to 4.2. I looked through the upgrade plan > and removed things I thought looked suspect, but some important things got > thrashed anyway. > > I'd really appreciate any advice on how to repair these two problems: > > 1) My PPP connection no longer works. I think it "almost" works, though. > Gatekeeper is still there, it starts, the icon is animated, etc, but the > Diagnostics window shows...nothing. Not a single character. I can dial > using "Dial" from the main menu, but "Connect" gets me nowhere. Any ideas > on which crucial file was deleted/overwritten by Upgrade? Life without > NeXTmail is not fun. I'll start having withdrawal symptoms soon... Sounds as if GateKeeper doesn't find the FIFO (in /usr/adm ?). Look for the logging-definition for ppp in syslog.conf. GateKeeper will use the first file as FIFO if this option ist selected. If the file is present the try to unselect the option and then reselect it. This helped once for me. Greetings Olaf -- Olaf Foellinger homepage: http://www1.stuttgart.netsurf.de/~ergo/ NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
From: Andrew Engelmann <engelman@colorado.edu> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Compile MATLAB under NextStep? Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:52:13 -0600 Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Distribution: inet Message-ID: <33A8204D.5AF0@colorado.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: engelman NextStepers, Has anyone ever compiled Matlab code to run under NextStep? If so, how can I found out how to do that? -Drew Engelmann
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Offline News Reader? Date: 18 Jun 1997 18:08:39 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Jun18131140@slave.doubleu.com> References: <199706082143181820290@rhrz-isdn2-p5.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <5nqbk1$6ju$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5nrt9l$98g$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> <1997061511420914900@rhrz-isdn2-p16.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> <5o87kk$gt0$2@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> In-reply-to: NOSPAM.michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de's message of 18 Jun 1997 08:52:36 GMT In article <5o87kk$gt0$2@nexusgate.tng.oche.de>, NOSPAM.michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper, remove 'NOSPAM.' for reply) writes: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) wrote: >Christopher Wolf <cwolf@wolfware.com> wrote: >> However, any newsreader, including NewsFlash, can be turned into an >> "offline" newsreader by installing a local nntp-server which sucks >> down the >newsgroups you are interested in from your ISP periodically > >How does this affect performance and resource requirements? I'm running an INN on my 486/40 20MB Linux ISDN router standing under my table. I get about 50 different newsgroups (including control) which makes about 15.000 articles and between 20 and 30 MB a day. Heck, I run a more-or-less "complete" (100k articles per day, 5000+ groups) feed on a 486/160 w/32M and 5G of disk space running Linux. It's also an IP-Masq router, an email hub, web server (for outsiders), web proxy/cache (for insiders - me), and probably other things I'm not thinking of. It _does_ border on wedged when doing the nightly expire, and it is almost always in catch-up mode in filing articles, but it keeps up. [Why? To prove to a skeptic that INN+Linux+486+32M can outperform his INN+BSDI+P166+64M setup. His machine takes 2-3x as long to do the nightly expire, for a feed which is only slightly larger than mine.] The news system occupies about 100MB of harddisk space including history and log files. I'm holding articles for 7 days, control is expired after 1 day. I'd say, if you plan to install a news server with the dimensions of my one (it's really not a big one), you should spend more than 32MB memory to your machine if you don't want to feel performance losses. If you do news pulling and expiring by night, it should be fine. I used to run a small feed on a NeXTstation mono turbo with 48M. To tell the truth, I never noticed it was there, except when I was tempted by the disk space it was using. Of course, it was easy to live with how fast you could read news with it :-). I think you could get by with less than 32M, so long as you target things well. For instance, you wouldn't want to have it slurping/sucking news during the day while you're using it, and you also don't want it to be running expire while you're doing other stuff. This is all pretty easy to arrange, though. Just have it poll for news a couple times in the middle of the night, same with expire. [Hint - don't expire _and_ poll for news at the same time, unless you enjoy watching your machine thrash.] Of course, one must ask if you really want 32M or more for _other_ stuff you might be doing. -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Fam.Moser@t-online.de (Familie Moser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: glib++ for NextStep 3.0 Date: 17 Jun 1997 10:50:05 GMT Organization: Telekom Online Internet Gateway Message-ID: <5o5q4t$q0s$1@news02.btx.dtag.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody, I am looking for a port of glib++ on NS 3.0. At had a look at the sources of glib2.0, but I am afraid that the effort in porting it is too much for me. So I was wondering if there is somebody out there who has a port available. It need not be the latest version, I am just interested in hacking a little bit C++. Any kind of advice or pointer is welcome. Please mail to either martin@shiratori.riec.tohoku.ac.jp or fam.moser@t-online.de. Thanks in advance for your kindness, Martin
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problem compiling PERL5.0004 on NexT, NS 3.3 Date: 18 Jun 1997 04:53:25 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Distribution: world Message-ID: <5o7pk5$sqa$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5o43gd$k2f@netline.jpl.nasa.gov> Ed Wright (ewright@naif-sun.jpl.nasa.gov) wrote: : : I have a problem when trying to compile PERL5.004 on a ^^^ : NextStation TurboColor running NS 3.3. : ..... : The ouput is as follows : : Making Fcntl (dynamic) : Writing Makefile for Fcntl : Skip ../../lib/Fcntl.pm (unchanged) : ../../miniperl -I../../lib -I../../lib ../../lib/ExtUtils/xsubpp -noprototypes : -typemap ../../lib/ExtUtils/typemap Fcntl.xs >Fcntl.tc && mv Fcntl.tc Fcntl.c : cc -c -DUSE_NEXT_CTYPE -O -DVERSION=\"1.03\" -DXS_VERSION=\"1.03\" : -I../.. Fcntl.c : Running Mkbootstrap for Fcntl () : chmod 644 Fcntl.bs : LD_RUN_PATH="" ld -o ../../lib/auto/Fcntl/Fcntl.none Fcntl.o : ld: Undefined symbols: : _Perl_croak : _errno : _strncmp : _strcmp : _Perl_stack_sp : _Perl_markstack_ptr ..... I think that I know what the problem is. Somehow you managed to strip 'miniperl' or some other object file. I just recompiled perl 5.004_1 on NS 3.2 (black) and did some experiments. 'strip -x', which leaves global symbols, on resulting executables is ok, but full blown 'strip' will cause errors like those above and dynamic loading will have problems. Otherwise 'make test' runs without any hiccups. Michal
From: Blake LeBaron <blake@ai.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Win/NT upgrade w/o hurting NS Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 20:20:43 -0700 Organization: University of Wisconsin Message-ID: <33A8A58B.462D@ai.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a machine (pentium 90) with NeXTstep/Windows 3.1 dual boat partitions. I'd like to upgrade the Dos/Windows partition to Win/NT 4.0 without hurting NeXTstep. Has anyone tried this? Is it likely that the Win/NT cd will erase my NeXTstep stuff? Blake LeBaron
From: awang@plains.NoDak.edu (Andy Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: eXTRAPRINT question.. Date: 18 Jun 1997 19:17:23 -0500 Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network Message-ID: <5o9tqj$r72@plains.NoDak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if the author for eXTRAPRINT can be contacted via e-mail somehow? The application is sold by GS Corporation, but i remember last year when I first got NEXTSTEP, I asked about printer drivers for a BJC-600e, and the author posted information about it. I ended up purchasing a license to it, and everything was great. first 6 months i had the thing, i had a few minor problems, e-mailed GS Corp's tech support and got responses almost immediately.. since that time, GS Corp's tech support hasn't responded to any of my e-mail messages about various additional problems i'm having so i figured maybe i can contact the author directly for some help. Also, can anyone point me to a document defining the PPD file format and what everything in it means? does such a beast exist anywhere? thanks andy -- ----------------- Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT, MIME or SUN mail OK -------------- - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - - What the hell is a chicken? - http://www.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - ------------------------- awang@plains.nodak.edu -----------------------------
From: peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PDF Viewer that handles password protection Date: 18 Jun 1997 19:01:19 GMT Organization: Peter's Private Newsserver Message-ID: <5o9b9v$2s4@unity.westfalen.de> References: <5o6olc$8o8@news.tamu.edu> schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub) wrote: > Name pretty much says it all. Does anyone know of a PDF viewer on Openstep > 4.0 that can read Acrobat 3.0 files that have a password? OmniPDF doesn't > seem to do it. > > Any pointer appreciated. Of course PDFView and PDFViewer will both do it you can find them on peanuts peter -- peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) Peter Kopatzki Am Bredberg 21 D-49143 Schledehausen "The only purpose of life is Bliss" -Go and create it! NeXTmail, MIME and SUN Solaris welcome URL Firma:http://www.globalsalesnetwork.com URL Privat:http://www.globalsalesnetwork.com/Private.html Phone:+49(0)5402 98050 Public Key on request
From: ulkjhlk@poikjgewrwtrq.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Do you own a pager?? Get a virtual Office!! (USA ONLY) Date: 19 Jun 1997 03:05:37 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <5oa7m1$ms9@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> ONLY AVAILABLE IN THE: U.S.A, CANADA VIRGIN ISLANDS, AND PUERTO RICO BE SURE TO GO TO OUR SITE AND CHECK OUT OUR FREE TRIAL. Call everyone and tell them to throw away all of your old home, office, fax, pager, voice-mail, and cellular numbers and give them your New "Virtual Office" 800/888 number! The only number any one will ever need. Are you tired of giving out all of your different phone numbers to everyone? Wouldn’t it be nice to be able to give everyone just ONE phone number that will find you anywhere you are? Even out of town, or in a restaurant, or even on the golf course. Now you can. We have the answer to all your communication needs. It’s called the "Virtual Office". And this new service is loaded. It comes with features like: An automated Call Attendant, Live Call Connect (in real time), Fax Sending, Fax Receiving, Even without a fax machine! E-Mail Notification and Delivery, Without a PC!, Outbound calling, Low Cost Long Distance Service, Inbound/Outbound 800/888 Number, Worldwide Call Transfer, Call Forwarding, Call Screening, Full Service Voice Mail, Nation Wide Pager Notification, Conference Calling, Speed Dialing, Auto Dial, Auto Messaging, Temporary Greeting, Unavailable Greeting, Password Protection, Pager Notification, and No Equipment or Software to buy, "Ever". Priced from $9.95* per month, Plus 10.9 cents per minute per event. That’s less than one phone line would cost per month. For more information please visit our web sight: http://www.mynumber.com * Based on our best priced plan.
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From: marcel@system.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: eXTRAPRINT question.. Date: 19 Jun 1997 09:01:24 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5oash4$97l$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <5o9tqj$r72@plains.NoDak.edu> In article <5o9tqj$r72@plains.NoDak.edu> awang@plains.NoDak.edu (Andy Wang) writes: > Does anyone know if the author for eXTRAPRINT can be contacted via e-mail > somehow? You rang? I'm no longer with GS-Corp, but I do plan on releasing a bunch of printer drivers for OS, OS/Win and Rhapsody. Alas, Apple is being less than helpful at this time, so I can't be certain what will happen. In the meantime, what can I do you for? Marcel
From: Mitchell Allen <alcmaeon@one.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT fonts Date: 12 Jun 1997 04:00:18 GMT Organization: OneNet Communications, Inc. News Server Message-ID: <5nns8i$1m6$1@news.one.net> When installing fonts, where does one place them to make them available to all applications? Mitch
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Compile MATLAB under NextStep? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 19 Jun 1997 12:40:20 GMT Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ob9bk$8a$2@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> References: <33A8204D.5AF0@colorado.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <33A8204D.5AF0@colorado.edu>, Andrew Engelmann <engelman@colorado.edu> writes: > Has anyone ever compiled Matlab code to run under NextStep? If so, how > can I found out how to do that? Another hint: There is "octave" under GPL, which *should be* mathlab comparable. Bernhard F`up2: comp.sys.next.software
From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: no color in some tiff's Date: 19 Jun 1997 13:07:16 GMT Organization: Personal Message-ID: <5obau5$27g@rumah.pc.my> I recently made some .tiff files using various software on a mono slab with NS3.2. I was VERY careful in picking Pantone colors by name. When saving in Diagram2, it always make b & w tiff's. Other apps do makes color tiff's. Why.. How.. the lack color from some apps -- this one in particular? Note that .eps files from Diagram2 do have color... its just the tiffs that are lacking. TIA Mike
From: Irwin McLean PhD <mclean2@jeflin.tju.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Thanks Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 10:18:56 -0500 Organization: Thomas Jefferson University Message-ID: <33A94DDF.7C2D@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A while ago I asked if someone could get me NS 3.2 or higher. I got a lot of reactions, thanks for that. I got what I wanted in the meantime so everything is OK!! Maurice
From: sadeghi@ras.eu.org (Shapour SADEGHI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: sound recorder program Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 18:45:20 GMT Organization: SCT / Worldnet - Internet Provider & Information Exchange - Paris, France Message-ID: <33a97bb0.3647122@news.sct.fr> I am trying to do my own web page. I need to record the sounds in .AU format with a player/recorder program to be played by MS Internet Explorer on a PC Pentium Winows 95. Do you know of any free professional software to record the importants sounds files in AU format? Would you tell me where I can load it up on my computer? thanks a lot of your kindness. sadeghi@ras.eu.org
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 4.2 = Game Over? Date: 19 Jun 1997 18:21:27 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5obtb7$a0k@hal.nexttoyou.de> Unfortunately I found out that some of my old games (everything else works just fine) refuse to start since I upgraded from 3.3 to 4.2: - Mahjong.app - SuperSolitaire.app - Stealth.app (from NeXT) - VOID.app The console always tells me something like this: Jun 19 19:49:41 Workspace: Cannot exec /LocalApps/Games/Stealth.app/Stealth : Bad executable (or shared library) The executable is absolutely o.k. So what else can be done? Was NeXT in its late time maybe just too mission critical for these games? Any help appreciated. David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: Dayne Miller <daynem@excell.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Gamma values in Rhapsody? Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 14:36:21 -0700 Organization: Excell Data Corporation Message-ID: <33A9A654.9E76FD2A@excell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 So, does anyone know (guesses don't count...) whether Rhapsody will use NEXTSTEP's gamma values, or those of the current MacOS? I can see some problems with cross-platform images if NEXTSTEP's is used, but something tells me it's likely -- and not being a graphic artist, i couldn't tell you which is inherently better (or if such a term even applies). If only everyone would use PNG all the time... -Dayne Miller daynem@excell.com
From: Temporary@NeXT.Victim Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 00:01:27 GMT Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc. Message-ID: <33acc821.159249692@news.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: WYSIWYG HTML for NeXTSTEP -- Another missing app? Does anyone have a WYSIWYG HTML editor for NeXTSTEP? I need something even the managers can use. And please, don't reply with the stock answer, "It's coming in Rhapsody." God knows with enough time, there'll be a navigator that doesn't take an hour to load pages with tables and all that. In the mean time .... Thanks, Temporary NeXT Victim
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Seek equivalent to Sun's "ps -e" Date: 19 Jun 1997 22:49:02 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5od5ke$h6k@slip.net> Hi, What is the ps command which displays all processes, that is, including UNIX dameons and all applications being run from the desktop. According to the man page "ps -g" should do about what I want. Thanks, Emmett
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Fabien_Roy@no.spam.free.fdn.fr (Remove no.spam to reply) Subject: Re: eXTRAPRINT question.. Message-ID: <EC2IHC.5Fp@free.fdn.fr> Sender: news@free.fdn.fr Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant. References: <5o9tqj$r72@plains.NoDak.edu> <5oash4$97l$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 09:32:00 GMT marcel@system.de wrote: > In article <5o9tqj$r72@plains.NoDak.edu> awang@plains.NoDak.edu (Andy Wang) > writes: > > Does anyone know if the author for eXTRAPRINT can be contacted via e-mail > > somehow? > > You rang? > > I'm no longer with GS-Corp, but I do plan on releasing a bunch of printer > drivers for OS, OS/Win and Rhapsody. Alas, Apple is being less than > helpful at this time, so I can't be certain what will happen. > > In the meantime, what can I do you for? > > Marcel PLEASE do release some of your printer drivers! Specially the Novajet one! -- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 (0)1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 (0)1 48 55 09 90 GSM: 33 (0)6 60 46 36 83
From: decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb using 1.67 GBytes Date: 20 Jun 1997 10:53:18 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5odneu$5am$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This takes the cake for virtual memory usage on any app I've run: 1.67G 4.84M 2827 5:47 /LocalApps/OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb 1.70M 248K 4002 0:00 - 1.72M 200K 4001 0:00 grep 1.81M 416K 3954 0:00 -csh 10.8M 2.90M 2990 0:54 /NextApps/Mail.app/Mail Flushing OmniWeb's cache didn't change this value. I sure hope they can fix this memory leakage problem in their OpenStep port. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100, Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenXber@mhpXcc.edu <Delete the "X"s; done to stop junk e-mail> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~Xaltenber/ <Delete the "X"> =======================================================================
From: daboussy@cemef.cma.fr (david daboussy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Seek equivalent to Sun's "ps -e" Date: 20 Jun 1997 12:44:44 GMT Organization: Ecole des Mines de Paris Message-ID: <5odtvs$256u$1@cemef.cma.fr> References: <5od5ke$h6k@slip.net> Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote: : Hi, : : What is the ps command which displays all processes, : that is, including UNIX dameons and all applications : being run from the desktop. According to the : man page "ps -g" should do about what I want. : : Thanks, : : Emmett : I think "ps -aux" should do what you want. HTH. David.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb using 1.67 GBytes Date: 20 Jun 1997 12:45:51 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5odu1v$pgu@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5odneu$5am$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> In article <5odneu$5am$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) writes: > This takes the cake for virtual memory usage on any app I've run: > > 1.67G 4.84M 2827 5:47 /LocalApps/OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb > 1.70M 248K 4002 0:00 - > 1.72M 200K 4001 0:00 grep > 1.81M 416K 3954 0:00 -csh > 10.8M 2.90M 2990 0:54 /NextApps/Mail.app/Mail > > Flushing OmniWeb's cache didn't change this value. I sure hope they can > fix this memory leakage problem in their OpenStep port. The VSIZE as reported by ps is often misleading... And... keep in mind that OmniWeb caches everything in RAM, whereas most other browsers cache to disk (and re-render when needed). "Clearing the cache" in OmniWeb does not free up memory back to the system, it just clears already allocated space for future pages/images. Now, OmniWeb DOES use a lot of memory, but imagine how many pages/images get rendered in just casual web browsing for a couple of hours. Quiting and restarting OmniWeb periodically helps immensely in most cases. (A machine with ample RAM helps too...) (-; -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb using 1.67 GBytes Date: 20 Jun 1997 14:17:49 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5oe3ed$i5f$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5odneu$5am$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5odu1v$pgu@crcnis3.unl.edu> Cc: rdieter@math.unl.edu In <5odu1v$pgu@crcnis3.unl.edu> Rex Dieter wrote: > The VSIZE as reported by ps is often misleading... > And... keep in mind that OmniWeb caches everything in RAM, whereas most > other browsers cache to disk (and re-render when needed). "Clearing the > cache" in OmniWeb does not free up memory back to the system, it just > clears already allocated space for future pages/images. > Now, OmniWeb DOES use a lot of memory, but imagine how many pages/images > get rendered in just casual web browsing for a couple of hours. > Quiting and restarting OmniWeb periodically helps immensely in most cases. > (A machine with ample RAM helps too...) (-; All true, but still OmniWeb 2 continues to fill my disk by enlarging the swapfile thus forcing a reboot now and then... this is not acceptable so I decided for myself to use Netsurfer as my browser. Netsurfer, abeit inferior in its table handling, commercial and, for the time being, unsupported, works fine and even handles animated GIFs. I can only recommend it. Beside (on Linux/X11 and some inferior so called OSes not to be called by name here) Netscape does not do it either. At my optinion the idea of 'caching everything in RAM' is only suitable for a system with an infinite holographic memory located in hyperspace. Still I search the market for such a system, I would save me from cleaning up my disks from debris now and then... :-) Don't get me wrong, I can only praise the Omni guys for releasing their browser for free and actively supporting it. But you can always make things better ;-)... -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Seek equivalent to Sun's "ps -e" Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 07:49:46 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970620074825.23419D-100000@kira> References: <5od5ke$h6k@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> In-Reply-To: <5od5ke$h6k@slip.net> Not sure what Sun's ps -e does.... ps -auxwwwww will get you a really complete list ps -uxw will get you a relatively complete list for just your own account TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html "Everything is easy when you know what you are doing." - Dr Robert Cupper, Department of CS, Allegheny College
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:53:53 -0600 From: tguyette@is.com Subject: Intel next 3.3 not launching Opener.app and OpenSesame.app Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Message-ID: <866824852.2236@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service I have been running 3.3 on Intel for some time now. I have had several system crashes and subsequent disk repairings happen. After one such incident (it may or may not be the cause), Opener.app and now OpenSesame.app give me the following errors: OpenSesame: execute: [/bin/su -c /NextAdmin/Configure.app/Configure] asRoot: 1 OpenSesame: subprocessError: 'Error grabbing ptys for subprocess.' OpenSesame: Open on highlander OpenSesame: execute: [rsh highlander /NextApps/Mail.app/Mail -NXHost orchid] asRoot: 0 OpenSesame: subprocessError: 'Error grabbing ptys for subprocess.' OpenSesame: Open on highlander OpenSesame: execute: [rsh highlander /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal -NXHost orchid] asRoot: 0 OpenSesame: subprocessError: 'Error grabbing ptys for subprocess.' Can anyone tell me how to repair this problem? I have tried to contact ask_next and they have not responded after 1 month with my repeat appeals. They must be developing apple's attitude toward customer's fixing problems themselves. I have a disk full of lots of stuff I am not wanting to reinstall. Tom -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 4.2 = Game Over? Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:46:19 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970620134208.21267D-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <5obtb7$a0k@hal.nexttoyou.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5obtb7$a0k@hal.nexttoyou.de> On 19 Jun 1997, David Andel wrote: > Unfortunately I found out that some of my old games (everything else works > just fine) refuse to start since I upgraded from 3.3 to 4.2: [snip] > Jun 19 19:49:41 Workspace: Cannot exec /LocalApps/Games/Stealth.app/Stealth : > Bad executable (or shared library) My first guess is that 4.2 may only have NS 3.x libs, but not the 2.x compatibility libs. The apps you listed all date back at least as far as NS 2.1. 3.3 does have those libs. If you really need Stealth.app, you'll probably have to go back. :P -Isaac
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor Date: 20 Jun 1997 19:27:41 GMT Organization: Customer of EUnet/PING Austria Message-ID: <5oeljd$6gp$1@news.Austria.EU.net> References: <33acc821.159249692@news.clark.net> In-Reply-To: <33acc821.159249692@news.clark.net> On 06/20/97, Temporary@NeXT.Victim wrote: >Does anyone have a WYSIWYG HTML editor for NeXTSTEP? I need something >even the managers can use. LatinByrd. It's not an editor, but a converter. Write your stuff as RTFD documents using Edit, then crank it through LatinByrd. Beware that LatinByrd doesn't support everything (frames, for instance), and that its Table Inspector isn't really WYSIWYG. Anyway, see http://members.ping.at/stefan/index.html#LatinByrd for more info. - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://members.ping.at/stefan/
From: "Robert Fisher" <rfisher@onr.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trouble Installing OpenStep 4.1 Date: 20 Jun 1997 20:54:54 GMT Organization: Renegade Software Message-ID: <01bc7db2$561fb320$0100000a@ivanova> I'm a total NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP newbie. I've been trying to install OPENSTEP 4.1. Unfortunately, the person I got the OPENSTEP CD from had long ago lost his boot floppies. So, I downloaded nearly all the floppy disk images from ftp.next.com. After many attempts, I finally managed to get OPENSTEP installed by using the NEXTSTEP 3.3 boot disk (1886), the 3.3 driver disk (1887), and the 3.3 Beta drivers disk (2078) (which I needed to get it to see my IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM drive). (I've got a 4.1 additional drivers (2498) disk that I tried with the 3.3 boot disk, but it gave errors when loading drivers off that disk.) After the installation finished and it rebooted off the hard drive, I got this message: When you began installing OPENSTEP, you loaded one or more device drivers that were not on the OPENSTEP CD-ROM: EISABus PCIBus PCMCIABus PS2Keyboard Intel824X0 Adaptec 154x Series SCSI Adapter (v3.35) EIDE and ATAPI Device Controller (v3.35) Please insert floppy (etc.) Inserting the 3.3 Beta drivers disk loads the Adaptec and EIDE/ATAPI drivers without error. Inserting the 3.3 driver disk loads the PS2Keyboard and Intel824X0 drivers without error. The three "bus" drivers, however, give the following errors. Error occurred while linking driver EISABus: rld(): Undefined symbols: _theEISABus Error occured while linking driver PCIBus: rld(): Undefined symbols: _thePCIBus Error occured while linking driver PCMCIABus: rld(): Undefined symbols: _theEISABus (I've tried giving it the 4.1 additional drivers disk at this point, and it says it doesn't contain any appropriate drivers.) If I continue without loading those three drivers, I get a panic: panic: (Cpu 0) Missing EISA kernel bus class panic: NeXT Mach 4.1: Thu Sep 26 23:09:05 PDT 1996; root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk-183.27.obj~2/RELEASE_I386 System Panic: Missing EISA kernel bus class I'm guessing that the problem is that I'm trying to use NEXTSTEP 3.3 drivers with an OPENSTEP 4.1 kernel. Still, the NEXTSTEP 3.3 boot disk was the most recent I could find. And I could only get it to work with the 3.3 drivers and Beta drivers disks. Any suggestions? Some info about the system: 486, 20 MB Ram 1.2 GB hard drive: 600 MB FAT partition, 600 MB OPENSTEP partition ISA/VL buses EIDE controller with both hard drive and CD-ROM drive on the primary bus (nothing on the secondary bus) (No EISA, PCI, or PCMCIA of any kind.) Thanks in advance... -- Robert Fisher Renegade Software rfisher@onr.com
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 4.2 = Game Over? Date: 20 Jun 1997 21:53:10 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5oeu46$l0p$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5obtb7$a0k@hal.nexttoyou.de> <Pine.LNX.3.96.970620134208.21267D-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Cc: isaac@pobox.com In <Pine.LNX.3.96.970620134208.21267D-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Isaac wrote: > On 19 Jun 1997, David Andel wrote: * * > Unfortunately I found out that some of my old games (everything else works * > just fine) refuse to start since I upgraded from 3.3 to 4.2: * [snip] * > Jun 19 19:49:41 Workspace: Cannot exec /LocalApps/Games/Stealth.app/Stealth : * > Bad executable (or shared library) * * My first guess is that 4.2 may only have NS 3.x libs, but not the 2.x * compatibility libs. The apps you listed all date back at least as far as * NS 2.1. * * 3.3 does have those libs. If you really need Stealth.app, you'll probably * have to go back. :P Just do a otool -L /path/to/program.app/program to find out which shared libs are used, then copy the missing ones over (to /usr/shlib/) from a 3.3 installation. Maybe it will work... -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Intel next 3.3 not launching Opener.app and OpenSesame.app Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 13:48:33 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970620134547.13946C-100000@kira> References: <866824852.2236@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: tguyette@is.com In-Reply-To: <866824852.2236@dejanews.com> If you must crosspost (and I often don't reply to messages that are), please set a Followups-To line Have you checked the permissions inside the file? I had Opener.app act weird on me because I did not have read permissions on some file inside the nib. Do they work if you are logged in as root? Just a guess TjL
From: tyf@.primenet.com (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PS -> EPS converter Date: 21 Jun 1997 06:11:28 GMT Organization: NSNet Internet Services Message-ID: <5ofrag$i7t$1@falcon.ns.net> Hi, Is there a way to convert PostScript (ps) into Encapsulated PostScript (eps)? Or is there a way to directly import a PostScript graphics in FrameMaker? Thanks. -- ________________ Tin-Yau Fung, tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu NeXTmail is best!
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From: sane@netreach.net (Gil Tolle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT and X Window? Date: 21 Jun 1997 20:46:29 GMT Organization: Dis. Message-ID: <slrn5qofcp.s0.sane@chao-pasture.dyndns.com> I am currently a Linux user and am thinking about getting a used NeXT machine as a hobby. Mostly cause it looks nice and has a nice interface, I would love to make it my desktop machine and stick my linux box in another room on a network. I know I can telnet to the linux to use text-mode linux stuff. Is there any way I can run an X app on the Linux machine and have it display on my hypothetical NeXT? If so, that would be perfect. All the power and apps of linux with the sheer elegance of a NeXTstation. Can it be done? -- Gil Tolle <sane@netreach.net> <http://www.netreach.net/~sane> LinuxDiscordianNinnieTechnopunkHighEntropyHailEris
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT and X Window? Date: 21 Jun 1997 22:08:28 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5ohjcs$npp$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <slrn5qofcp.s0.sane@chao-pasture.dyndns.com> Cc: sane@netreach.net In <slrn5qofcp.s0.sane@chao-pasture.dyndns.com> Gil Tolle wrote: > I am currently a Linux user and am thinking about getting a used NeXT > machine as a hobby. Mostly cause it looks nice and has a nice interface, I > would love to make it my desktop machine and stick my linux box in another > room on a network. I know I can telnet to the linux to use text-mode linux > stuff. Is there any way I can run an X app on the Linux machine and have it > display on my hypothetical NeXT? If so, that would be perfect. All the power > and apps of linux with the sheer elegance of a NeXTstation. Can it be done? > Yes, there are several X11 clients and servers, Freeware/Shareware/Commerical available for m68k NeXT systems. Look on ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/XNeXT/ However maybe you will discover the power of NeXTSTEP/OpenStep programs... just look around a bit on this site or ftp://peanuts.leo.org/next/ ;-) -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Quantrix (something simple, that's really difficult) Date: 21 Jun 1997 23:05:28 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5ohmno$dtc$1@news2.digex.net> Hi all, I have a really easy problem, that's REALLY proving tough to implement in a NeXTbased spreadsheet. I'd prefer to do it in quantrix, but I'll buy any of the other spreadsheets just to do this...but from what I've seen, non of the other apps let me do this either...Excel does because it has a Rank function... Anway, this is what I'm looking for: e.g.1 A | B ___________|_____________| 1,676.087 | 1st positive -32.494 | 1st negative 127.039 | 2nd positive -11.143 | 2nd negative 122.927 | 3rd negative e.g.2 A | B ___________|_____________| 92.949 | 2nd positive 171.209 | 1st positive 53.428 | 4th positive 68.644 | 3rd positive -15.537 | Singularity negative To enter numbers in column A and have the column next to them to show that number's rank next to it in column B... But here's the rub... There are two sets of rankings, one for the negatives, one for the positives... Oh, and finally, if there is just a single positive or single negative value in the group/range, column B should just display something saying it's a positive or negative singularity... Note, the output doesn't have to be exactly "1st, 2nd, etc"...any kind of numerical or simple output is fine... Anyway, it seems like an easy thing...but seems really tough to do in a spreadsheet... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <3108866347221@digifix.com> Date: 22 Jun 1997 03:57:06 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <10436866952022@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: frsvnsvn@best.com (Kurt Werle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to get Lighthouse Design software license numbers? Date: 22 Jun 1997 00:04:16 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5oiipg$dqt@shellx.best.com> References: <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> <5nu1fk$g6m@belzebul.imaginet.fr> In article <5nu1fk$g6m@belzebul.imaginet.fr>, Pascal Bourguignon <pjb@nospam.imaginet.fr> wrote: >In article <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> david@daikin-comtec.com (David J Harr) >writes: >> >>[Lighthouse is no longer selling their products] > >So here we hve actual proof that a company may become uninterested in its >products anymore. I can understand in that case that they would not bother to >give on the net some licence numbers for use by anybody for any of their >uninteresting software. And therefore, that any kind of restriction to copying >software should be forbidden by law. It that case, it would never be illegal to >copy a software, and as much concerned you may be about the illegality of >piracy, such a thing would not exist anymore. Now you know what to ask to your >representant. Or, could it be, Lighthouse has recently [or will soon] sell their "old" products to someone else to support? Naw, they're probably just being stupid and spiteful. Kurt "Who has no clue but is willing to take guesses" Werle
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quantrix (something simple, that's really difficult) Date: 22 Jun 1997 07:49:27 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5oile7$7lj$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5ohmno$dtc$1@news2.digex.net> Cc: jkheit@cnj.digex.net In <5ohmno$dtc$1@news2.digex.net> John Kheit wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a really easy problem, that's REALLY proving tough to > implement in a NeXTbased spreadsheet. I'd prefer to do it in > quantrix, but I'll buy any of the other spreadsheets just to do > this...but from what I've seen, non of the other apps let me do > this either...Excel does because it has a Rank function... > > [SNIP] You are right, it's a little tricky to get the 'RANK' function in Quantrix. I am not going to solve your whole problem for you, but here is a hint how to compute ranks [a simple version]: < ----------- Value Rank < Category B | A1 1,676.09 5.00 < ----------- A2 -32.49 1.00 A3 127.04 4.00 A4 -11.14 2.00 A5 122.93 3.00 ^^^^^^^^^^^ Category A | ----------- The Formula is: A[THIS]:Rank = count(selectLessThan(A:Value, A:Value, A[THIS]:Value)) + 1 Good luck, Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to get Lighthouse Design software license numbers? Date: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 04:44:24 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970622043838.10081B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> <5nu1fk$g6m@belzebul.imaginet.fr> <5oiipg$dqt@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5oiipg$dqt@shellx.best.com> On 22 Jun 1997, Kurt Werle wrote: > Or, could it be, Lighthouse has recently [or will soon] sell their "old" > products to someone else to support? > > Naw, they're probably just being stupid and spiteful. Given that Lighthouse is now an arm of Sun, I suspect the latter. I can't even count the times I've seen Sun, through boneheaded maneuvers, cut off its own nose to spite its face. It's really quite a shame - I waited a few weeks too long to order their academic bundle and have now lost out big-time. :( (If anyone knows a source for these bundles or is willing to sell theirs (wishful thinking!), please drop me a line.) -Isaac
From: Claude.LeBerre@enst-bretagne.fr (Claude LE BERRE) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [problem OpenStep 1.0] on Solaris2.5 Date: 23 Jun 1997 12:48:42 GMT Organization: ENST de Bretagne - France Sender: leberre@univers.enst-bretagne.fr (Claude LE BERRE) Distribution: world Message-ID: <5olrba$8vj@alfali.enst-bretagne.fr> Keywords: solaris2.5 openstep ospd I have sometimes this error and can't start OpenStep environment (/usr/openstep/etc/ospd refuse to lauch). I notice that It never appear just after a reboot. Perhaps a problem with some buffers/network ports (I didn't find this error in any manual). Any idea ? [SunOS k2.enst-bretagne.fr 5.5 Generic sun4m sparc SUNW,SPARCstation-10] k2.enst-bretagne.fr[2]>openstep -start Starting the OpenStep environment.port_allocate error: 5 ..Jun 17 17:17:11 Workspace[20336] Pasteboard lookup failed on host k2.enst-bretagne.fr: (Failure) Jun 17 17:17:13 Workspace[20336] Pasteboard lookup failed on host k2.enst-bretagne.fr: (Failure) Jun 17 17:17:13 Workspace[20336] NSFont: cannot reach AppKit server to get font metrics. Jun 17 17:17:13 Workspace[20336] Couldn't find default font for default NSSystemFonts Jun 17 17:17:13 Workspace[20336] Pasteboard lookup failed on host k2.enst-bretagne.fr: (Failure) Jun 17 17:17:13 Workspace[20336] NSFont: cannot reach AppKit server to get font metrics. Jun 17 17:17:13 Workspace[20336] Couldn't find default font for default NSBoldSystemFonts Jun 17 17:17:17 Workspace[20336] Pasteboard lookup failed on host k2.enst-bretagne.fr: (Failure) Jun 17 17:17:17 Workspace[20336] couldn't allocate port set Jun 17 17:17:17 Workspace: Cannot register Workspace with port server : Failure The OpenStep environment has not started after 45 seconds..giving up -- ======================================================================== Tel. +33-(0)298001259 | Telecopie/Fax +33-(0)298455133 Claude.LeBerre@enst-bretagne.fr http://www.enst-bretagne.fr/ TELECOM Bretagne, Technopole Brest-Iroise, B.P. 832, F-29285 BREST Cedex
From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 06:13:21 GMT Organization: Netvigator Message-ID: <5om0bl$rd3@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? MS Office 97 only costs US$45! Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center
From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Microsoft Office 97 costs US$45 ? Shopping Paradise Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 06:08:10 GMT Organization: Netvigator Message-ID: <5om01v$ltd@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? CorelDraw 7.0! only costs US$45? Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center
From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 06:18:24 GMT Organization: Netvigator Message-ID: <5om0l5$pps@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? MS Office 97 only costs US$45! Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center
From: John Zachary <zachary@bit.csc.lsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is NeXTTeX.pkg? Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 18:35:19 -0500 Organization: LSU Robotics Research Laboratory Message-ID: <33AF0837.6CD6@bit.csc.lsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I recently installed OpenStep 4.2 and discovered NeXTTex.pkg is not in /NeXTCD/Packages as per the appropriate NeXTanswer. Did NeXT omit NeXTTex.pkg for a reason and is there somewhere I can download it? Thanks, John
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From: frsvnsvn@best.com (Kurt Werle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to get Lighthouse Design software license numbers? Date: 23 Jun 1997 09:46:42 -0700 Organization: private Message-ID: <5om99i$q9i@shellx.best.com> References: <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> <5oiipg$dqt@shellx.best.com> <Pine.LNX.3.96.970622043838.10081B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <5ojksp$qpr@news.nd.edu> In article <5ojksp$qpr@news.nd.edu>, Steven M. Boker <sboker@nd.edu> wrote: > >The paranoid among us felt that when Sun announced acquisition of >Lighthouse last July the reason was to bury NeXT. There are two reasons to >acquire a software company. (1) To sell the software. (2) to >take the software off the market. (3) To buy + use their technology/people (heard of JavaPlan?) > It is clearly in Sun's best >interest right now that a large percentage of the best commercial >products for OpenStep be buried. Apple is going to be cutting >into Sun's market. The best thing Sun can do (as a hardware company) >is to throw as many obstacles as possible in Apple's path in hopes >that they won't make it back to profitability. Yeah, and while they're at it, they should write killer software that only runs on Sparcs. No, wait - they're writing software that will run on all computers using Java. HEY! maybe they're a software company! >Unfortunately, we Diagram (etc.) users are the ones who must pay >in this dirty little war. > >I can tell you software developers out there that there is an >enormous market out there for a Diagram knock-off. Or you could just make Lighthouse an offer and see if they're willing to sell it to you lock, stock, and barrel. Bet they've already sold it... Kurt "I'm almost sorry for this Monday-Morning sarcasm" Werle
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From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Seek keyboard sequence equivalent to clicking on close button Date: 23 Jun 1997 19:56:31 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5omkdf$e04@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5ok8jc$d3b@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5ok8jc$d3b@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a keyboard sequence which is equivalent to clicking on > the current window's top-X-close-button? > > > Thanks, > > Emmett > > in most cases cmd-w will close the active (key) window. check your app's menu: Windows > Close Window for kb eq. -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com
From: walker@imap1.asu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there? Date: 23 Jun 1997 18:18:29 GMT Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <5omell$3ra@news.asu.edu> Does anybody know of anything out there more recent/capable than OmniWeb2.1? Something that's not specifically for NeXT that you can compile? Something else I haven't heard of? Not being able to use Java, see anitmated GIFs, and of course not being able to use a plethora of plug-ins keeps me from using my NeXT as often as I'd like to (all day). Thanks in advance, -Hopeful
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From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Seek keyboard sequence equivalent to clicking on close button Date: 23 Jun 1997 03:44:29 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5okret$5u1$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5ok8jc$d3b@slip.net> In-Reply-To: <5ok8jc$d3b@slip.net> On 06/22/97, Emmett McLean wrote: >Hi, > >Is there a keyboard sequence which is equivalent to clicking on >the current window's top-X-close-button? > > For the vast majority of programs is Command-w -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: pjb@nospam.imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there? Date: 23 Jun 1997 22:40:40 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5omu18$jcj@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <5omell$3ra@news.asu.edu> In article <5omell$3ra@news.asu.edu> walker@imap1.asu.edu writes: > Does anybody know of anything out there more recent/capable than OmniWeb2.1? > Something that's not specifically for NeXT that you can compile? > Something else I haven't heard of? Not being able to use Java, see > anitmated GIFs, and of course not being able to use a plethora of > plug-ins keeps me from using my NeXT as often as I'd like to (all day). > > Thanks in advance, > > -Hopeful OmniWeb 2.5 has been available for a while. Check http://www.omnigroup.com/ __Pascal Bourguignon__
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there? Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 18:51:08 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <UnfjrQ200iWn091LE0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5omell$3ra@news.asu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 23-Jun-97 Something better than OmniW.. by walker@imap1.asu.edu > Does anybody know of anything out there more recent/capable than > OmniWeb2.1? Depending on what you mean by that, you could (a) run Netsurfer, (b) run lynx in a terminal window, (c) remotely execute Netscape via -xhost onto your NeXT (assuming you also install X-windows, of course), or (d) compile and run the X version of Mosaic. Also, there's (e) which is getting a more recent version of OmniWeb, version 2.5. > Something that's not specifically for NeXT that you can compile? Options b & d. For that matter, emacs probably has a web browser mode, too. :-) > Something else I haven't heard of? Not being able to use Java, see > anitmated GIFs, and of course not being able to use a plethora of > plug-ins keeps me from using my NeXT as often as I'd like to (all day). Netsurfer does animated GIF's, but no NEXTSTEP browser does Java that I know of, since there isn't a completed port of the JDK available for NEXTSTEP. Pity, that.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: info@scribex.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone tried Create HTML? Date: 22 Jun 1997 23:21:04 GMT Organization: VTL Message-ID: <5okc10$qnc$1@wagner.videotron.net> References: <5ok7j0$o9o$1@wagner.videotron.net> In-Reply-To: <5ok7j0$o9o$1@wagner.videotron.net> I haven't had the pleassure of using Create-HTML but I can certainly vouch for LatinByrd-II (now shipping). An upgrade to LatinByrd-III will be available soon. Features at: www.scribex.com -Andre ---------------------------------------- On 06/22/97, Raymond Lutz wrote: > Bonjour a tous! > > Did anyone try Create HTML? What are your opinions about its HTML > export facilities? I'm downloading it right now (nearly 6 Megabytes) > via my 14.4 kbps modem and so thought I could post this meanwhile... > 8^) > > And tant qu'a y etre, what about LatynBird? > > > A lurker waiting experts advices... > > Ray > > > -- > Raymond Lutz - lutzray-at-9bit.qc.ca - www.9bit.qc.ca/~lutzray - "Les 400 plus fortunes individus de la planete possedent autant que 2.3 MILLIARDS des plus pauvres reunis" > >
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OPENSTEP 4.2 for NT Academic available? Date: 24 Jun 1997 03:44:41 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <5onfr9$b49@agate.berkeley.edu> I know that OPENSTEP 4.2 for NT Pre-release was given out to WWDC attendees, and OPENSTEP 4.2 for Mach is available in commercial and academic versions. Does anyone know if OPENSTEP 4.2 for NT Academic is available now, if not when? I've waited for 4.2, and would rather not get 4.1 for NT now if I can avoid it -- unless there is a free upgrade, which I believe there isn't. -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 1997 23:04:22 -0600 From: bill@speakeasy.org Subject: Help: 3.1 Moto Boot Disk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <867124256.31307@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service hello all, i need some help finding a boot floppy image for NeXTStep Black 3.1... anyone know where one is? (I checked next's web site and various other ftp places... ) thanks much for the help! tcoy, bill billw@xpense.com -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: email@end.of.post (Raymond Lutz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone tried Create HTML? Date: 22 Jun 1997 22:05:20 GMT Organization: VTL Message-ID: <5ok7j0$o9o$1@wagner.videotron.net> Bonjour a tous! Did anyone try Create HTML? What are your opinions about its HTML export facilities? I'm downloading it right now (nearly 6 Megabytes) via my 14.4 kbps modem and so thought I could post this meanwhile... 8^) And tant qu'a y etre, what about LatynBird? A lurker waiting experts advices... Ray -- Raymond Lutz - lutzray-at-9bit.qc.ca - www.9bit.qc.ca/~lutzray - "Les 400 plus fortunes individus de la planete possedent autant que 2.3 MILLIARDS des plus pauvres reunis"
Message-ID: <33AAC1D0.9DBE9FDD@novell.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 1997 11:45:52 -0600 From: Kris Magnusson <kmagnusson@novell.com> Organization: Novell Java Class Libraries MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor References: <33acc821.159249692@news.clark.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Temporary@NeXT.Victim wrote: > > Does anyone have a WYSIWYG HTML editor for NeXTSTEP? I need something > even the managers can use. > > And please, don't reply with the stock answer, "It's coming in Rhapsody." > God knows with enough time, there'll be a navigator that doesn't take an > hour to load pages with tables and all that. In the mean time .... > > Thanks, > Temporary NeXT Victim I have one. It's called WebPages. But it's old now--it only does HTML 1.0. WebObjectsBuilder has an HTML editor, but it's designed as a construction kit for WebObjects pages, and I haven't tried to use it as a generalized editor. I use Fusion 2.0 on an NT box for HTML page creation, and TextEdit.app on NT for HTML text editing. I agree this is something that needs to be built, but unfortunately, NeXTstep was going down the toilet when HTML editors were starting to hit the streets. ..........kris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lerche@nxth04.cern.ch (Wolfgang Lerche) Subject: Mma2.2 problem under NS3.3 Message-ID: <ECA88s.GCt@news.cern.ch> Sender: news@news.cern.ch (USENET News System) Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 13:31:40 GMT Hello, we have an obnoxious Mathematica 2.2 problem on NeXTSTEP 3.3/Intel. While all is fine on black hardware, one cannot connect the notebook to a local kernel on Intel. (However, running math in a local shell window, or connecting to another type of machine [HP], is no problem.) This is the same either for Mathtalk or for Mathlink protocols. More precisely, the kernel does start, but never connects (Mathtalk V2.1), or, under MathLink2.2, it gives "connection to server lost" It then hangs when one tries to evaluate some input. I used the updated mathclient program, and also tried various ways to call the kernel from shells etc - nothing works. Did anybody else experience this and knows how to resolve it ? Hardware is Intel VS440FX PPro with Adaptec 2940U. Thanks, W. Lerche
From: jhburns@kobc0002.delcoelect.com (Jeffrey H. Burns) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Compile MATLAB under NextStep? Date: 24 Jun 1997 13:19:25 -0500 Organization: Delco Electronics Corp. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <pvdbu4vj236.fsf@kobc0002.delcoelect.com> References: <33A8204D.5AF0@colorado.edu> I compiled the old public domain version of Matlab for black hardware about five years ago. It was submitted to Purdue's archive server. If you can not find the it on an archive someplace I can make it available again. Compiling this code was a real pain. It had several hardware dependences in the Fortran code. I would suggest looking at scilab. I have not used this package, but from following it's news group it appears to have more support than the public domain version of Matlab. Andrew Engelmann <engelman@colorado.edu> writes: > NextStepers, > > Has anyone ever compiled Matlab code to run under NextStep? If so, how > can I found out how to do that? > > -Drew Engelmann -- Jeffrey H Burns Internet:jhburns@dawg.delcoelect.com Project Engineer Delco Electronics Corp. Telephone: (765) 451-3279 Kokomo, IN 46904-9005 FAX: (765) 451-3600
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there? Date: 23 Jun 1997 22:44:53 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5omu95$n7h@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5omell$3ra@news.asu.edu> walker@imap1.asu.edu wrote: > Does anybody know of anything out there more recent/capable than > OmniWeb2.1? How about OmniWeb 2.5? > Something that's not specifically for NeXT that you can compile? If you want something for NeXTSTEP (which I assume since you are posting here), but you want something that's not specifically for NeXTSTEP, then I imagine you are pretty much out of luck. > Something else I haven't heard of? Not being able to use Java, > see anitmated GIFs, and of course not being able to use a plethora > of plug-ins keeps me from using my NeXT as often as I'd like to > (all day). The lack of Java support is due to the NeXTSTEP platform. There is no browser on NeXTSTEP which has Java support. The only answer for plug-ins is to buy a Mac or Windows machine. I am not fond if "animated GIF's" (which I consider a pretty stupid term for "let's constantly reload a sequence of images over and over again"), but I think an upcoming version of OmniWeb will support them. Better check with Omnigroup for sure, though. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: baccarat <baccarat@okcom.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help with .ddi Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 20:02:11 -0400 Organization: Golden Autumn Message-ID: <33B06003.2F19@okcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I've got a software that comes in four ".ddi" files, and I just can't figure out how to install it. Can somebody give me a clue please? Thanks in advance. Lu
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Run NS/OS apps from remote host not having NS/OS ? Date: 24 Jun 1997 23:17:20 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5oqd5g$nku@slip.net> Hi, Is there something like a run time OpenSesame that allows users to run NS/OS applications on a remote UNIX host? Thanks, Emmett
From: jbf_see_sig@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Why did Lighthouse Design software vanish? Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 02:42:01 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_sig-ya023580002506970242010001@news.tiac.net> References: <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> <5nu1fk$g6m@belzebul.imaginet.fr> <5oiipg$dqt@shellx.best.com> <Pine.LNX.3.96.970622043838.10081B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <5ojksp$qpr@news.nd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5ojksp$qpr@news.nd.edu>, sboker@nd.edu wrote: > The paranoid among us felt that when Sun announced acquisition of > Lighthouse last July the reason was to bury NeXT. There are two reasons to > acquire a software company. (1) To sell the software. (2) to > take the software off the market. It is clearly in Sun's best > interest right now that a large percentage of the best commercial > products for OpenStep be buried. Apple is going to be cutting > into Sun's market. Perhaps this paranoia is unjustified. Apple wasn't involved with NeXT when Sun bought Lighthouse. Sun subsequently(?) released OpenStep on Solaris. So why did they trash a market they had just released a gateway into? A few suggestions: 1. The apps weren't good enough to compete. 2. There isn't enough desktop app market for Sun machines to justify support costs. 3. Lighthouse wanted to do Java rather than OS conversions. 4. An earlier Sun agreement with Microsoft regarding Solaris apps. I suspect a combination of all of the above, and doubt we will know the real answer while we still care. Barney (delete that _see_sig to email me)
From: jmgomez@mvax1.red.cinvestav.mx (Jose Manuel Gomez Soto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help Help!!! Date: 25 Jun 1997 08:26:08 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <5oqkn0$gkg$2@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> NextStepers, Could you tell me where i can find software on nextstep or openstep about processing images based on octrees. I really appreciate you help. Thank you Jose Manuel Gomez Soto Centro de Investigacion y Estudios Avanzados del IPN Mexico, City. MEXICO. email:jmgomez@alpha2.cs.cinvestav.mx email:jmanuel@mvax1.red.cinvestav.mx email:jmgomez@cs.cinvestav.mx
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there? Date: 25 Jun 1997 09:33:34 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5oqole$gmb$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <5omell$3ra@news.asu.edu> <5omu95$n7h@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > > I am not fond if "animated GIF's" (which I consider a pretty stupid > term for "let's constantly reload a sequence of images over and > over again"), but I think an upcoming version of OmniWeb will > support them. Better check with Omnigroup for sure, though. Certainly OmniWeb 3.0 (the Rhapsody version) will support animated GIFs - along with a preference to turn them off (they sure do make the net an annoying place). The Rhapsody version of OmniImage will also support displaying animated gifs, since it uses the same pipeline stuff that OmniWeb uses. There will likely be a bundle released that will add animated GIF support to the current OmniWeb, but it will probably not be in the immediate future, and it may not be as polished as the version for 3.0. We are addressing some things for OmniWeb 2.6; beyond that, our focus will be on 3.0, since that's what's going to carry us forward, and 2.6 will not run on Rhapsody. -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Run NS/OS apps from remote host not having NS/OS ? Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:13:57 -0800 Organization: EdgeMedia Networks Message-ID: <erich-2506970713570001@ppp-207-104-16-20.snrf01.pacbell.net> References: <5oqd5g$nku@slip.net> In article <5oqd5g$nku@slip.net>, emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: > Hi, > > Is there something like a run time OpenSesame that allows > users to run NS/OS applications on a remote UNIX host? You mean something like the X windowing system?
From: info@scribex.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Lighthouse Design software still available Date: 22 Jun 1997 23:15:34 GMT Organization: VTL Message-ID: <5okbmm$qjk$1@wagner.videotron.net> References: <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> <5nu1fk$g6m@belzebul.imaginet.fr> <5oiipg$dqt@shellx.best.com> <Pine.LNX.3.96.970622043838.10081B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970622043838.10081B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> You can contact sales@scribex.com As a distributor of Lighthouse products, we will certainly maintain sales until officially instructed otherwise. -Andre Lalonde W3: www.scribex.com ---------------------------------------
From: Tristan Matthew Burton <tburton@leland.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X-Windows Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:29:01 -0700 Organization: Stanford University Sender: tburton@elaine19.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970625162329.42A-100000@elaine19.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was lucky enough to inherit a Next 68040 with System Release 3.0. Problem is that the X-Windows on it is not very usefull. When I open it, I cannot move the X-Window around the screen and any subsequent windows(i.e. Matlab plot) are placed over the previous window blocking my view. Also, sometimes an X-window will not even open and I have to reboot my machine to get it to work. So I was hoping someone could tell me where I could get a free X-windows that is actually useful. The one I have right now is called X and theres a little mouse on the icon. Thanks in advance Tristan Burton tburton@yogi.stanford.edu
From: mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: X-Windows Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:21:45 -0600 Organization: University of North Texas Message-ID: <mat0001-2506972021460001@remote78.server1.local.premium.dialup.unt.edu> References: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970625162329.42A-100000@elaine19.Stanford.EDU> I think you need to download an Xwindow manager... i.e. fvwm, twm, etc.... Michael Thompson In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.970625162329.42A-100000@elaine19.Stanford.EDU>, Tristan Matthew Burton <tburton@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote: > I was lucky enough to inherit a Next 68040 with System Release 3.0. > Problem is that the X-Windows on it is not very usefull. When I > open it, I cannot move the X-Window around the screen and any > subsequent windows(i.e. Matlab plot) are placed over the previous > window blocking my view. Also, sometimes an X-window will not even > open and I have to reboot my machine to get it to work. So I > was hoping someone could tell me where I could get a free X-windows > that is actually useful. The one I have right now is called X and > theres a little mouse on the icon. > > Thanks in advance > Tristan Burton > tburton@yogi.stanford.edu
From: mbecker@cs.uml.edu (Mark Becker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone configured glibc 2.0.4 for NS 2.1 yet? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 25 Jun 1997 21:52:39 -0400 Organization: UMass Lowell Computer Science Message-ID: <5osi17$urm$1@jupiter.cs.uml.edu> Keywords: GNU glibc-2.0.4 NS 2.1 Hello * Before taking the plunge and attempting this task, I'd like to hear from anyone who has already configured glibc 2.0.4 for NS 2.1 . (I'd upgrade to NS 3.0 .. but with no SCSI floppy drive I'm a little out of luck.) Regards, Mark +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ | Mark Becker <mbecker@cs.uml.edu> | #include <std.disclaimer>| +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 4.2 = Game Over? Date: 26 Jun 1997 02:01:49 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5osiid$52m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5obtb7$a0k@hal.nexttoyou.de> <Pine.LNX.3.96.970620134208.21267D-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <5oeu46$l0p$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Cc: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net In <5oeu46$l0p$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Frank M. Siegert wrote: > In <Pine.LNX.3.96.970620134208.21267D-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Isaac > wrote: > > On 19 Jun 1997, David Andel wrote: > * > * > Unfortunately I found out that some of my old games (everything else > works > * > just fine) refuse to start since I upgraded from 3.3 to 4.2: > * [snip] > * > Jun 19 19:49:41 Workspace: Cannot exec > /LocalApps/Games/Stealth.app/Stealth : > * > Bad executable (or shared library) > * > * My first guess is that 4.2 may only have NS 3.x libs, but not the 2.x > * compatibility libs. The apps you listed all date back at least as far as > * NS 2.1. > * > * 3.3 does have those libs. If you really need Stealth.app, you'll probably > * have to go back. :P > > Just do a otool -L /path/to/program.app/program to find out which shared libs > are used, then copy the missing ones over (to /usr/shlib/) from a 3.3 > installation. Maybe it will work... > It is also possible to try installing /n.m/shlib (where n, m are valid OS numbers like /3.0/shlib or /2.1/shlib etc.) and then using Hexi.app on the application binaries to search & replace on /usr/shlib to /3.0/shlib or /2.x/shlib or even /1.x/shlib. The above is even more strong handed than what Frank suggests but sometimes works when what Frank suggests fails ;) YMMV. Randy rencsok (at this) channelu (dot us) com Replace parens with "@" & "." spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com
From: ian@milan.demon.co.uk (Ian Tait) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 2 NeXTStations as Full Duplex Intercom ? Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 08:26:21 GMT Organization: Deliverence Message-ID: <33b22695.1588540@newnews.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone have any ideas about being able to use the sound server capabilities of 2 NeXTStations as a handsfree intercom/baby alarm arrangement ? Or some software that does the trick ? Cheers, Ian
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: JavaPlan and ObjC documentation Date: 26 Jun 1997 09:03:04 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5otb88$qcl$1@concorde.ctp.com> Hi, we just started to play around with JavaPlan which looks pretty neat. One of the things which we are trying to find out is how to properly get class and method documentation into the JavaPlan project when parsing existing code. IT seems like it takes the comment which comes behind the declaration inside the header. e.g: - (void)myMethodIsSilly; // This will be the documentation string. But thats not what many people (=me) use. At least I have th method documentation in the .m files and then generat the RTF docu files based on these comments since otherwise the headerfiles would get too large und more or less unreadable. Anybody (from Lighthouse?) who can tell me if there is a way to customize the ObjC unparser bundle so that it will use a different form of docum recognition ? Aloha Tomi
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Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 12:14:45 -0600 From: kafkouli@zeus.fiu.edu Subject: uniprint & nextstep WHERE IS THE DRIVER? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <867344613.29139@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service To: kafkouli@zeus.fiu.edu Hello friends, I cannot find the uniprint driver in the last ghostscript5.01 version. Does anyone has created this driver. I know that a C code is somewhere in the GS code but unfortunately I do not know how to make it and I do not have any compiler here. uniprint drives the new Epson stylus color 800 printer in 1440x720 resolution. The gs driver stcolor drives the printer only at 600dpi. I need to do whatever the Epson driver for Win95 does (including the Photoqualityglossy paper option and the error diffusion option)but in Openstep. Any pointers by the experts are welcome. Best Regards George Kafkoulis -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: marc@htl.com (Marc Respass) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Win/NT upgrade w/o hurting NS Date: 26 Jun 1997 17:03:05 GMT Organization: High Technology Logistics Message-ID: <5ou7c9$6q1@htlmst.hlt.com> References: <33A8A58B.462D@ai.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <33A8A58B.462D@ai.mit.edu>, blake@ai.mit.edu says... > >I have a machine (pentium 90) with NeXTstep/Windows 3.1 dual boat >partitions. I'd like to upgrade the Dos/Windows partition to Win/NT 4.0 >without hurting NeXTstep. Has anyone tried this? Is it likely that the >Win/NT cd will erase my NeXTstep stuff? > >Blake LeBaron Hi Blake, You're Windows install should not effect your Nextstep partition. Nextstep is on a non-DOS partition and NT won't over write it. If you're going to replace your DOS setup with NT, you can just format the DOS partition and install NT there. Temp files will be stored on the DOS partition. Don't forget that you probably want a very small DOS partition as your C: drive and NT installed on the D: in case of emergencies. Also be sure to take the option of creating an emergency disk when you install NT. Hope this helps.
From: marc@htl.com (Marc Respass) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: News and POP mail on Nextstep 4.2? Date: 26 Jun 1997 17:06:59 GMT Organization: High Technology Logistics Message-ID: <5ou7jj$6q2@htlmst.hlt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows of a news and pop mail client that runs in Openstep 4.2? I have the Prelude to Rhapsody (OS 4.2 PR) and OmniWeb but it would be great if I could get news and mail there too. We run a POP3 mail server on NT Server but I don't know how to configure Nextmail to act as a POP client. Thanks a lot
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From: neil@pobox.com (Neil Rhodes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Software available to capture screen activities as movie? Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 11:18:40 -0700 Organization: Calliope Enterprises, Inc. Message-ID: <neil-2606971118420001@mail.calliopeinc.com> I'm looking for something like CameraMan on the Macintosh, which captures the contents of the screen as I work into a Movie (useful for tutorials, for example). Anything like that exist? What about just capturing a stillshot of the screen or a portion (like Capture on the Macintosh)? Thanks, -- Neil Rhodes Author of Programming for the Newton neil@pobox.com Newton Programming and Training Newton Essentials class June 9-13 <www.calliopeinc.com/training.html>
From: mat0001@jove.acs.unt.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS3.3 Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 15:46:02 -0600 Organization: University of North Texas Message-ID: <mat0001-2606971546020001@remote68.server1.local.premium.dialup.unt.edu> Any way to install NS 3.3 on a PC with a IDE CDROM? Is there a driver I can download and use in the install? Thanks Michael Thompson
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software available to capture screen activities as movie? Date: 26 Jun 1997 20:21:42 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5ouj0n$l4f$1@news.digifix.com> References: <neil-2606971118420001@mail.calliopeinc.com> In-Reply-To: <neil-2606971118420001@mail.calliopeinc.com> On 06/26/97, Neil Rhodes wrote: >I'm looking for something like CameraMan on the Macintosh, which >captures the contents of the screen as I work into a Movie (useful >for tutorials, for example). > >Anything like that exist? > I think what you are referring to would be WatchMe.... I'm not sure if its still available though.. >What about just capturing a stillshot of the screen or a portion (like Capture >on the Macintosh)? Sure Grab.app. Its in /NextApps/Grab.app -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: Marc Respass Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News and POP mail on Nextstep 4.2? Date: 26 Jun 1997 22:19:40 GMT Organization: HTL Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <5oupts$6q3@htlmst.hlt.com> References: <5ou7jj$6q2@htlmst.hlt.com> In News and POP mail on Nextstep 4.2? comp.sys.next.software marc@htl.com (Marc Respass) writes, > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone knows of a news and pop mail client that runs in > Openstep 4.2? I have the Prelude to Rhapsody (OS 4.2 PR) and OmniWeb but it > would be great if I could get news and mail there too. We run a POP3 mail > server on NT Server but I don't know how to configure Nextmail to act as a POP > client. > > Thanks a lot Weird replying to my own message but I'm doing it from Openstep, not Windows! :). Thanks for the replies that I recieved on this question. I downloaded Kiwi for a newsreader and it's pretty good. I also got PopOver which does get my mail and opens it in Mail.app - very cool. The thing is, I still can't send mail. Do I need to install a POP server (Pop Over comes with one) on my machine to send mail? Thanks a lot. --Marc Respass
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software available to capture screen activities as movie? Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 19:15:27 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <sngjUDC00iVC07cY40@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <neil-2606971118420001@mail.calliopeinc.com> In-Reply-To: <neil-2606971118420001@mail.calliopeinc.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 26-Jun-97 Software available to captu.. by Neil Rhodes@pobox.com > What about just capturing a stillshot of the screen or a portion (like > Capture on the Macintosh)? Try /NextApps/Grab.app. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 4.2 = Game Over? Date: 27 Jun 1997 00:50:41 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Message-ID: <5ov2p1$95k@portal.gmu.edu> References: <5obtb7$a0k@hal.nexttoyou.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <5obtb7$a0k@hal.nexttoyou.de>, David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> wrote: >Unfortunately I found out that some of my old games (everything else works >just fine) refuse to start since I upgraded from 3.3 to 4.2: > >- Mahjong.app >- SuperSolitaire.app >- Stealth.app (from NeXT) >- VOID.app > >The console always tells me something like this: > >Jun 19 19:49:41 Workspace: Cannot exec /LocalApps/Games/Stealth.app/Stealth : >Bad executable (or shared library) > >The executable is absolutely o.k. So what else can be done? Was NeXT in its >late time maybe just too mission critical for these games? > >Any help appreciated. You just are suffering from wonderful NeXT legacy fun. When they did one of their "do things a new way now" and of course broke the old way, they renamed one of the shlibs... Just make a symlink in /usr/shlib like so: libvideo_s.A.shlib -> libMedia_s.A.shlib@ And voila, all those things will work, including your old 2.X Demos and the rest... No need to do anything else, even under 4.X. I'll leave comments off about how lame this one was, suffice to say that I've ranted enough about it when I was annoyed in the past. It's stupidity is self apperent. Tim
From: Jason<jlsb@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Don't read this message! Date: 27 Jun 1997 02:43:19 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5ov9c7$g16@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com> CALLING ALL LITERARY MINDS! I am trying to compose a coffee table book on the topic of EXCUSES. To add an original flavor to my project I am attempting to derive my research entirely from people I come in contact with on the Net. If you have, or know of, any interesting, unique, or even bizarre excuses, and would like to participate in this experiment in creative literature, please reply to this message with your excuse. Any excuse that is used in the published version will receive full literary credit. Thank you in advance for helping a fellow netizen. Long live free speech! Sincerely yours, Jason
From: info@scribex.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News and POP mail on Nextstep 4.2? Date: 27 Jun 1997 04:15:55 GMT Organization: VTL Message-ID: <5ovepr$5e7$1@wagner.videotron.net> References: <5ou7jj$6q2@htlmst.hlt.com> <5oupts$6q3@htlmst.hlt.com> In-Reply-To: <5oupts$6q3@htlmst.hlt.com> NewsFlash is an excellent news reader for NEXTSTEP 3.2 or higher, or OPENSTEP 4.X. Check it out at www.scribex.com -Andre ------------------------------------- On 06/26/97, Marc Respass wrote: > In News and POP mail on Nextstep 4.2? comp.sys.next.software marc@htl.com > (Marc Respass) writes, > > > Hi, > > > > I was wondering if anyone knows of a news and pop mail client that runs in > > Openstep 4.2? I have the Prelude to Rhapsody (OS 4.2 PR) and OmniWeb but it > > would be great if I could get news and mail there too. We run a POP3 mail > > server on NT Server but I don't know how to configure Nextmail to act as a > POP > > client. > > > > Thanks a lot > > Weird replying to my own message but I'm doing it from Openstep, not Windows! > :). Thanks for the replies that I recieved on this question. I downloaded Kiwi > for a newsreader and it's pretty good. I also got PopOver which does get my > mail and opens it in Mail.app - very cool. The thing is, I still can't send > mail. Do I need to install a POP server (Pop Over comes with one) on my > machine to send mail? Thanks a lot. > > --Marc Respass >
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News and POP mail on Nextstep 4.2? Date: 27 Jun 1997 06:11:12 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5ovli0$rik$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <5ou7jj$6q2@htlmst.hlt.com> <5oupts$6q3@htlmst.hlt.com> In-Reply-To: <5oupts$6q3@htlmst.hlt.com> On 06/26/97, Marc Respass wrote: >In News and POP mail on Nextstep 4.2? comp.sys.next.software marc@htl.com >(Marc Respass) writes, > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if anyone knows of a news and pop mail client that runs in >> Openstep 4.2? I have the Prelude to Rhapsody (OS 4.2 PR) and OmniWeb but it >> would be great if I could get news and mail there too. We run a POP3 mail >> server on NT Server but I don't know how to configure Nextmail to act as a >POP >> client. >> >> Thanks a lot > >Weird replying to my own message but I'm doing it from Openstep, not Windows! >:). Thanks for the replies that I recieved on this question. I downloaded Kiwi >for a newsreader and it's pretty good. I also got PopOver which does get my >mail and opens it in Mail.app - very cool. The thing is, I still can't send >mail. Do I need to install a POP server (Pop Over comes with one) on my >machine to send mail? Thanks a lot. > >--Marc Respass You may also want to check out NewsFlash - a commercial (but inexpensive) NNTP newsreader from WolfWare - www.wolfware.com. Free demos are available at our site. - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 02:34:16 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <867396429.2188@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <33acc821.159249692@news.clark.net> <5oeljd$6gp$1@news.Austria.EU.net> In article <5oeljd$6gp$1@news.Austria.EU.net>, stefan@ping.at wrote: > > On 06/20/97, Temporary@NeXT.Victim wrote: > >Does anyone have a WYSIWYG HTML editor for NeXTSTEP? I need > something > >even the managers can use. > > LatinByrd. It's not an editor, but a converter. Write your stuff as > RTFD documents using Edit, then crank it through LatinByrd. Beware > that LatinByrd doesn't support everything (frames, for instance), and > that its Table Inspector isn't really WYSIWYG. Anyway, see > > http://members.ping.at/stefan/index.html#LatinByrd > > for more info. Also try CreateHTML from Stone Design at http://www.stone.com hoops -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Newbie Questions Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:51:15 -0800 Organization: EdgeMedia Networks Message-ID: <erich-2606972251150001@ppp-207-105-88-12.snrf01.pacbell.net> Hello NeXT Developers, I was wondering if anybody out there could answer some questions for me. 1) If I develop a program under OpenStep for Mach on Intel, can I run that application on Windows NT/95 without installing OpenStep on the Windows machine? 2) Does anybody know about an OpenStep API for the Macintosh? I dont mean Rhapsody. 3) Will OpenStep 4.2 run on a Turbo Slab? Thanks alot for any and all help! erich@powerwareintl.com
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From: swagner@studi1.unizh.ch (Simon Wagner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: packages after reinstall?? Date: 27 Jun 1997 10:05:20 GMT Organization: University of Zurich, Switzerland Message-ID: <5p0390$861@rzunews.unizh.ch> Hi, I got my cube with a multitude of files already in place... now I would like to reinstall the os, but that would mean I'd loose all the packages.. how can I put them back in package form so I can reinstall them on the new one??? no, I don't have access to their install source... is something like that possible? I'm running 3.3 on my cube... cu thnx! (can you please reply via email??) simon -- "Three billion human souls ceased to exist on August 29th 1984 ... The survivors of the greatest task ever ... called the War against MSDOS ... They only lived to face a new nightmare ... the War against the Mac!"
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From: rtr@user.transit.ru (transit shell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: CVS and .nib files Date: 27 Jun 1997 13:44:57 GMT Organization: Transit Newsgate Message-ID: <5p0g4q$dlh@fido.transit.ru> Hi, Could anybody suggest me how to wrap/unwrap .nib files to store them into cvs repository? Thank you in advance. Vladimir
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: frank@OneVision.de (Frank Pohl) Subject: Re: Software available to capture screen activities as movie? Message-ID: <ECFoAL.CI2@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:06:21 GMT In comp.sys.next.software article <neil-2606971118420001@mail.calliopeinc.com> Neil Rhodes wrote: > I'm looking for something like CameraMan on the Macintosh, which > captures the contents of the screen as I work into a Movie (useful > for tutorials, for example). > > Anything like that exist? Yes: WatchMe creates "tapes" by recording the screen activities and sounds of a work session to disk. You record a session, explaining what you are doing while you are doing it. When the tape is played back, viewers hear your voice while seeing what you did. WatchMe is great for creating instructional materials or for documenting your custom applications. WatchMe tapes can be used by themselves, or incorporated into multimedia documents. (Mail: EAW@Paget.com, Phone: (206) - 448-0845) > What about just capturing a stillshot of the screen or a portion (like Capture on the Macintosh)? Try "Grab.app" (as part of NS normaly in /NextApps) frank
From: Jesse McCann <ybco@bestweb.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTSTEP w/o CD ROM drive Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 13:44:30 -0500 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Message-ID: <33B40A0B.3E4E@bestweb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know of any way to install NeXTSTEP on a computer w/o a CD-ROM drive or Network connection? Is tehre a way to copy the CD to disk?
From: Dayne Miller <daynem@excell.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for BIND 8.1.1, dhcpd and Squid Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 09:30:24 -0700 Organization: Excell Data Corporation Message-ID: <33B3EA9F.121C5EB8@excell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody compile these for NEXTSTEP (3.3) yet? Anybody want to? -Dayne Miller daynem@excell.com
From: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 2 NeXTStations as Full Duplex Intercom ? Date: 27 Jun 1997 18:04:19 GMT Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <5p0vb3$945$2@nuke.csu.net> References: <33b22695.1588540@newnews.demon.co.uk> Hi, There was some guy back around 1990-91 or so who wrote what he said was a little script to repeat sound throughoug a networked NeXT environment. It sounded like he ran a client that talked to each next in the office, allowing him to broadcast his sound data around a cluster of NeXT machines without really writing any code. I don't know what the optimal solution is for your problem these days with the sort of deterioration of MusicKit & SoundKit, etc. Anyone else want to comment on this? Thomas Ian Tait (ian@milan.demon.co.uk) wrote: : Anyone have any ideas about being able to use the sound server : capabilities of 2 NeXTStations as a handsfree intercom/baby alarm : arrangement ? Or some software that does the trick ? : Cheers, : Ian -- <>+<> ////// __v__ __\/__ `\|||/ /---\ """"""" | _ - | (_____) . / ^ _ \ . (q p) | o o | <^-@-@-^> (| o O |) .( O O ), |\| (o)(o) |/| _ooO_<_>_Ooo_ooO_U_Ooo_ooO__v__Ooo_ooO_u_Ooo_ooO__(_)__Ooa__oOO_()_OOo___ [_____}_____!____.}_____{_____|_____}_____i____.}_____!_____{_____}_____] __.}____.|_____{_____!____.}_____|_____{.____}_____|_____}_____|_____!___ [_____{_____}_____|_____}_____i_____}_____|_____}_____i_____{_____}_____]
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News and POP mail on Nextstep 4.2? Date: 27 Jun 1997 03:25:49 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5ovbrt$ngk$1@bashir.peak.org> References: <5ou7jj$6q2@htlmst.hlt.com> <5oupts$6q3@htlmst.hlt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Marc Respass In <5oupts$6q3@htlmst.hlt.com> Marc Respass wrote: > I downloaded Kiwi for a newsreader and it's pretty > good. I also got PopOver which does get my mail > and opens it in Mail.app - very cool. The thing > is, I still can't send mail. Do I need to install > a POP server (Pop Over comes with one) on my > machine to send mail? Thanks a lot. Newsreaders: checkout http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/apps/newsreaders.html Setting up a PopServer would only allow people to download mail from your machine to theirs, like you do from your ISP. Why can't you send mail? Does it come back to you? You might try posting to comp.mail.sendmail. TjL
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From: next@eclipseservices.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Accounting Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 16:24:38 -0400 Organization: Net Access - Philadelphia's Original ISP Message-ID: <33B4217D.5DB2@eclipseservices.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for OpenStep accounting software that comes with source code. I need a basic accounting package that I can add dome custom features to. Does anyone know of anything out there like that? :73014 comp.sys.next.misc:26295 comp.sys.next.programmer:25101 comp.sys.next.software:30125 In <erich-2606972251150001@ppp-207-105-88-12.snrf01.pacbell.net> Eric Harley wrote: > Hello NeXT Developers, > I was wondering if anybody out there could answer some questions for me. > > 1) If I develop a program under OpenStep for Mach on Intel, can I run that > application on Windows NT/95 without installing OpenStep on the Windows > machine? Yes, but: i) You will have to program strictly to the OpenStep api --- avoiding having a few unix-isms creeping in can be tricky. ii) You will need to recompile your app for WinNT/95. Once Yellow Box is released, you will be able to program in Java, and so run without any need for recompilation. iii) You will need to supply the OpenStep runtime dll's with your app if it's the first OpenStep app to be installed on the WinNT/95 machine. Apple lets you do this for free. > 2) Does anybody know about an OpenStep API for the Macintosh? I dont mean > Rhapsody. Apple has announced a "90% compatible" version of the yellow box to run under MacOS 8, which should start becoming available sometime in '98. > 3) Will OpenStep 4.2 run on a Turbo Slab? Yes. > Thanks alot for any and all help! You're welcome. Matthew [Posted and Mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5p0330$d6k@usenet84.supernews.com> Date: 27 Jun 1997 19:37:55 GMT Control: cancel <5p0330$d6k@usenet84.supernews.com> Message-ID: <cancel.5p0330$d6k@usenet84.supernews.com> Sender: a;dlfj@;aldfjs.com Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: see-url@bottom (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: eXTRAPRINT question.. Date: 28 Jun 1997 14:21:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <5p3v7s$mlv@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <5o9tqj$r72@plains.NoDak.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: awang@plains.NoDak.edu In <5o9tqj$r72@plains.NoDak.edu> Andy Wang wrote: > Does anyone know if the author for eXTRAPRINT can be contacted via e-mail > somehow? > The application is sold by GS Corporation, but i remember last year when I > first got NEXTSTEP, I asked about printer drivers for a BJC-600e, and the > author posted information about it. I ended up purchasing a license > to it, and everything was great. first 6 months i had the thing, i had > a few minor problems, e-mailed GS Corp's tech support and got responses > almost immediately.. since that time, GS Corp's tech support hasn't responded > to any of my e-mail messages about various additional problems i'm having > so i figured maybe i can contact the author directly for some help. Ummm, what kind of problems? I have a license for my NeXT color printer, and it has "timeout" problems... the most irritating being that after 200 "not ready messages" hit the cxserver log, the damn thing pops up a window notifying you too many timeouts have occurred and it will not continue to print until the window is removed by clicking "OK". It then pops up again almost immediately afterward with timeout #201... <sigh> I've limited my print runs to one page at a time, and it works great... unless I try "heavy ink"... then it won't even get through one page... -- Robert Worne [mail to me with the URL below:] Mail: http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/email.html //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Run NS/OS apps from remote host not having NS/OS ? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <ECE3s6.CD6@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 15:45:42 GMT References: <5oqd5g$nku@slip.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5oqd5g$nku@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: >Hi, > >Is there something like a run time OpenSesame that allows >users to run NS/OS applications on a remote UNIX host? > Not really, no. You would have to do a ton of work to add various NeXT DPS features to the local X server. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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From: Steve Dekorte <dekorte@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Newbie Questions Date: 29 Jun 1997 03:36:55 GMT Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <5p4l8n$ine$2@owl.slip.net> References: <erich-2606972251150001@ppp-207-105-88-12.snrf01.pacbell.net> In comp.sys.next.programmer Eric Harley <erich@powerwareintl.com> wrote: > 1) If I develop a program under OpenStep for Mach on Intel, can I run that > application on Windows NT/95 without installing OpenStep on the Windows > machine? No. > 2) Does anybody know about an OpenStep API for the Macintosh? I dont mean > Rhapsody. (I'm assuming you mean MacOS) Someone may be working on GNUstep for Mac. There was also something in Macweek about an OpenStep for MacOS. > 3) Will OpenStep 4.2 run on a Turbo Slab? Yes. -- Steve Dekorte - OpenStep consultant - San Francisco
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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <10436866952022@digifix.com> Date: 29 Jun 1997 03:56:52 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <1452867556825@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there? Date: 24 Jun 1997 09:00:02 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5oo2ai$sdj$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5omell$3ra@news.asu.edu> <UnfjrQ200iWn091LE0@andrew.cmu.edu> Speaking of OmniWeb.. it seems thatit might be replacing Cyberdog!=) I guess OmniGroup guys have been waiting long enuff for a pay off.. Good job guys! http://rumors.netexpress.net/ OpenStep's OmniWeb web browser exposed Our good friends at Webintosh have put together a little feature on NeXT OpenStep's proprietary web browser, OmniWeb, and its many features. According to Apple sources, a port of this browser is expected to eventually replace CyberDog as Apple's own web browser technology. It's definitely a step in the right direction; however, Rhapsody developers haven't set a definite date for this sub-project, and it's likely that users will have to wait until mid-1998 to see OmniWeb for Rhapsody. Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 23-Jun-97 Something better : than OmniW.. by walker@imap1.asu.edu : > Does anybody know of anything out there more recent/capable than : > OmniWeb2.1? : Depending on what you mean by that, you could (a) run Netsurfer, (b) run : lynx in a terminal window, (c) remotely execute Netscape via -xhost onto : your NeXT (assuming you also install X-windows, of course), or (d) : compile and run the X version of Mosaic. Also, there's (e) which is : getting a more recent version of OmniWeb, version 2.5. : > Something that's not specifically for NeXT that you can compile? : Options b & d. : For that matter, emacs probably has a web browser mode, too. :-) : > Something else I haven't heard of? Not being able to use Java, see : > anitmated GIFs, and of course not being able to use a plethora of : > plug-ins keeps me from using my NeXT as often as I'd like to (all day). : Netsurfer does animated GIF's, but no NEXTSTEP browser does Java that I : know of, since there isn't a completed port of the JDK available for : NEXTSTEP. Pity, that.... : -Chuck : Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer : ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- : I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Attila Suicmez <sunny@chemie.fu-berlin.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Matrox Woes: Help! Date: Sun, 29 Jun 1997 21:09:01 +0200 Organization: Freie Universität Berlin Message-ID: <33B6B2CD.C655B215@chemie.fu-berlin.de> References: <5nno0t$15g2@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit atl2@lehigh.edu wrote: > The problem: When my system has finished booting and starts the > WindowServer, I get a black screen with any Millenium setting EXCEPT > 640x480, 8bpp, 60Hz. Now, I know this has something to do with memory > > mapping (whatever that is); I have more than 32MB (128MB) on my > system. > The trouble is, I have no idea which of the expert settings to change, > nor > how to change them. My pathetic efforts have so far resulted only in > system panics on boot-up. > > Help, anyone? > > Hi Alex, I had the same problem when I upgraded my Matrox Millenium BIOS from 2.4 to version 2.5. The deal is to get the newer beta driver from NeXT-Answers (from their WWW-Site). This brings you back to the resolutions you want again. Cheers, Sunny
From: liuyi@dragon-dance.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Prolog for NeXTStation? Date: 30 Jun 1997 06:13:02 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Message-ID: <D858CB76169CC853.28DA5EAB792BA5A9.5721376DF823B2EB@library-proxy.airnews.net> References: <5p60ci$30k$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net On 29 Jun 1997 15:52:50 GMT, Spencer Yu <u8222015@cc.nctu.edu.tw> wrote: > Hi I am looking for a Prolog interpreter for my NeXTStaion...where > can I find a free one? I would prefer one with GUI but anything will do > thanx! Don't know about NS/OS based Prolog interpreters, but you can get precompiled clisp or gcl installed and get a Common Lisp based Prolog (Check the CMU Lisp repository) running in very little time. It's been a while, but I recall Peter Norvig's Lisp book has a chapter on the implementation of Prolog in CL and it's not that hard, IMHO. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@dragon-dance.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hazel.north.de!gerriet (Gerriet M. Denkmann) Subject: Personal-Inn Message-ID: <ECKyJG.122.0.voyager@hazel.north.de> Sender: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann) Organization: Really Big Corporation Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 08:35:40 GMT Currently I receive news via uucp - Cnews. Yesterday I installed PersonalInn. getlist did work ok. But slurp didn't work too well - in /usr/spool/news/log/slurp.log it wrote: Jun 29 14:08:07 voyager slurp[458]: Connected to nntp server at olis.north.de Jun 29 14:08:09 voyager slurp[458]: Processed 0 new, 0 duplicate, 0 missing articles Jun 29 14:08:09 voyager slurp[458]: Average transfer speed 0 cps Any ideas what I can or should do? And now for something completely different: Quite often I get news with a high number of cross-postings (typically a dozen or more). These are always junk, spam or other garbage. What can I do to stop these things being transmitted to me? Is it possible to modify slurp, so that it does not fetch any news with more than three cross-postings? Gerriet.
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News and POP mail on Nextstep 4.2? Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 23:11:40 +0200 Organization: Max Plank Institut for Polymer Research Message-ID: <33B2DB0C.794B@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5ou7jj$6q2@htlmst.hlt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marc Respass wrote: > > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone knows of a news and pop mail client that runs in > Openstep 4.2? I have the Prelude to Rhapsody (OS 4.2 PR) and OmniWeb but it > would be great if I could get news and mail there too. We run a POP3 mail > server on NT Server but I don't know how to configure Nextmail to act as a POP > client. > > Thanks a lot Pop-Client is POPOver.app There are many Newsreaders. Check out www.peanuts.org ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/news/ stefan -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News and POP mail on Nextstep 4.2? Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 12:32:34 +0200 Organization: Max Plank Institut for Polymer Research Message-ID: <33B396C2.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5ou7jj$6q2@htlmst.hlt.com> <5oupts$6q3@htlmst.hlt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marc, Respass wrote: > I also got PopOver which does get my > mail and opens it in Mail.app - very cool. The thing is, I still can't send > mail. Do I need to install a POP server (Pop Over comes with one) on my > machine to send mail? Is DNS and routing working. Can you do telnet to any other host inside and outside your domaen ? If this is working your OpenStep/mach could deliver mail without any help of a mailhost. /etc/sendmail should look like this: ... lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 24 Jun 18 11:16 sendmail.cf -> sendmail.mailhost.cf@ -r--r--r-- 1 root 9899 Feb 22 13:33 sendmail.mailhost.cf -r--r--r-- 1 root 8662 Feb 22 13:33 sendmail.sharedsubsidiary.cf -r--r--r-- 1 root 8414 Feb 22 13:33 sendmail.subsidiary.cf If the link is to one of the others cf files the mail is deliverd via a mailhost. This has nothing to do with popserver. stefan ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: thomas@catlan.met.FU-Berlin.DE (Thomas Hensel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Matrox Woes: Help! Date: 30 Jun 1997 10:12:43 GMT Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin Message-ID: <5p80qr$nti@fu-berlin.de> References: <5nno0t$15g2@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> <33B6B2CD.C655B215@chemie.fu-berlin.de> Cc: sunny@chemie.fu-berlin.de In <33B6B2CD.C655B215@chemie.fu-berlin.de> Attila Suicmez wrote: > atl2@lehigh.edu wrote: > > > The problem: When my system has finished booting and starts the > > WindowServer, I get a black screen with any Millenium setting EXCEPT > > 640x480, 8bpp, 60Hz. Now, I know this has something to do with memory > > > > mapping (whatever that is); I have more than 32MB (128MB) on my > > system. > > The trouble is, I have no idea which of the expert settings to change, > > nor > > how to change them. My pathetic efforts have so far resulted only in > > system panics on boot-up. > > > > Help, anyone? > > > > > > Hi Alex, > > I had the same problem when I upgraded my Matrox Millenium BIOS from 2.4 > to version 2.5. The deal is to get the newer beta driver from > NeXT-Answers (from their WWW-Site). This brings you back to the > resolutions you want again. > I cannot verify this, sorry. Yesterday I installed a new system with 4mb Matrox, Asus XP55T2P4, NCR SCSI 64 MB etc ... Under WinNT and Win95 4MB are recognized and displayed under NS3.3p1 only the 2MB-Driver works, the 4MB-driver gives me a black screen (These are the latest NeXT-Answers-Drivers, BIOS 2.5) So at the moment I am clueless :-( Greetings, Thomas -- || Who: Dipl. Phys. Thomas Hensel MIKS - Meteorologische Informations- || EMail: thomas@bibo.met.FU-Berlin.DE und Kommunikations-Systeme || Voice: (+49 30) 838 71 225 an der Freien Universitaet Berlin || FAX: (+49 30) 791 90 02 Schmidt-Ott-Str. 13 - 12165 Berlin
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Sender: Free Cable<langs@griller.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <33b78b55.0@news.netzilla.net> Control: cancel <33b78b55.0@news.netzilla.net> Date: 30 Jun 1997 11:03:59 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.33b78b55.0@news.netzilla.net> Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 1997 23:22:06 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re: Accounting Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <867471231.22259@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <33B4217D.5DB2@eclipseservices.com> In article <33B4217D.5DB2@eclipseservices.com>, next@eclipseservices.com wrote: > > I am looking for OpenStep accounting software that comes with source > code. I need a basic accounting package that I can add dome custom > features to. Does anyone know of anything out there like that? Their are a couple of high end accounting packages listed on the NeXt partners page. They probably have hooks to the API's although probably not source. http://www.next.com:80/Alliances/Partners/SPListings.html You might want to check out Checksum from Stone Design http://www.stone.com it is like Quicken and I think you might be able to hook to it thru an API or build stuff that works in conjunction to Dataphile Stones flatfile database. Also Mesa ( A nextstep spreadsheet ) is fairly customizable Don't know of any shareware with source. Hoops -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Cleaning up the X-files Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:18:14 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970630091626.17482A-100000@peace> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'd like to clean up/organize the X stuff on next-ftp.peak.org, to make it a little more easy to use. Having taken a good look around, I realized figuring out what goes with what (and what is free and what is not) is quite a task, especially for someone (like me) who knows nothing about it. If you can offer any help, suggestions, please do, as I am entirely ignorant of X. Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Submissions Coordinator, PEAK OpenStep/NeXTStep FTP site http://www.peak.org/next/ aka ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/ http://www.peak.org/openstep aka ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/openstep
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: mSQL 2.0 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 10:00:22 +0200 Organization: Max Plank Institut for Polymer Research Message-ID: <33B76796.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Anbody got mSQL2.0 beta 7.1 compiled for NeXTStep or OpenStep/mach ? There is no mmap included in NeXT's mach. Are there ways around it ? What about a EOF-Adaptor. Is there anybody working on that already ? Thanks stefan ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: ZyXEL FAX Modem won't receive FAXes Date: 30 Jun 1997 16:46:58 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5p8nu2$30l@news.acns.nwu.edu> I have NXFax.app (a license'd copy) and a ZyXEL Omni 2864 Fax Modem. What does it take to get the modem to receive faxes? I've installed NXFax and configured a fax modem in the PrintManger.app. It can send faxes fine, I just cant receive faxes (unattended). The modem just doesn't answer. I've set the fax configuration in PrintManger to answer in 1 ring and I've tried a few other things (see below). I've tried using 'cu' to manually set things like ATS0=1 AT+FAA=1 ATAA=1 +FAA=1 but the thing still doesn't answer the phone. Am I doing something wrong? Did I miss something? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: What happened to eXTRAPRINT and GSCorp Date: 30 Jun 1997 17:03:06 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5p8osa$30l@news.acns.nwu.edu> Does anyone know if GSCorp is still in business? I've been trying to reach GSCorp to purchase eXTRAPRINT and eXTRASCAN. There phone seems to be still connected and they have an answering machine to leave messages on. I've also left email requesting them to contact me. In 2 weeks I haven't heard a thing. I hope they haven't gone the way of Optimal Object.... David A. Johnson
From: tph1001@coriander.cl.cam.ac.uk (Thomas Harte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTeX installation Date: 30 Jun 1997 17:35:30 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5p8qp2$n9d@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Hi! Complete newbie to NeXT here, and, as will become apparent, a non-TeX hack to boot! I am trying to install TeX on my PPro which runs NEXTSTEP 3.0. NeXTeX (which I uploaded from the distribution disk) seems to contain a very rudimentary version of TeX: LaTeX209 is the variant, as opposed to LaTeX2e. However I can actaully see some sort of output using TeXView. I have also got my hands on the TeX Live CD (May 1997), which supports NeXT. I have installed everything worth installing from this disk but the TeXView app doesn't seem to want to run. It can't view anything and doesn't seem to know where to grab fonts from &c. However, I do deem to be able to get .dvi output when I LaTeX from a terminal window. So, there we have it, I want to use TeXView and can get it going (to a limited extent) with the NeXTTeX distribution but it's outdated TeX and doesn't include many fonts; and the TeX Live NeXT distribution doesn't seem to want to play cricket. I have been playing with environment variables of all sorts for hours and have not been able to come with anything. The TeX Live documentation is particularly arcane and assumes that installation is done by a TeX hack. So my questions are manifold: i) How do you get fonts tailored to the NeXT screen (Display PostScript)? How do I get TeXView to display what a document is supposed to look like? ii) How do I tell (whatever) distribution package where to put things...NeXTeX (outdated) seems to know; TeX Live doesn't (not for TeXView anyhow). iii) How do I tailor fonts to my 1200dpi PostScript printer? (At present, if I print out a document, the type looks "thin") Thanks, Thomas. -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university. +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; deep philosophical thingy: how come $\{rm knuth\}\cap\{rm html\}=\{\varnothing\}$?
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5p7g1s$945$2879@cadmium.aware.nl> Date: 30 Jun 1997 15:42:03 GMT Control: cancel <5p7g1s$945$2879@cadmium.aware.nl> Message-ID: <cancel.5p7g1s$945$2879@cadmium.aware.nl> Sender: <remove@freemail.nll> Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTeX installation Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 20:31:23 +0200 Organization: Max Plank Institut for Polymer Research Message-ID: <33B7FB7B.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5p8qp2$n9d@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thomas Harte wrote: > > Hi! > > Complete newbie to NeXT here, and, as will become apparent, a non-TeX > hack to boot! > > I am trying to install TeX on my PPro which runs NEXTSTEP 3.0. > NeXTeX (which I uploaded from the distribution disk) seems to contain > a very rudimentary version of TeX: LaTeX209 is the variant, as opposed to > LaTeX2e. However I can actaully see some sort of output using TeXView. > Thomas, the old TeXView.app included on the NeXT CD is not linked to kpathsearch. Check out Gregor's page for information on newer versions of TeXView. http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX/ stefan -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: dbriggs@stem.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CVS and .nib files Date: 27 Jun 1997 17:14:38 GMT Organization: Systemix, Inc. Message-ID: <5p0sdu$nea@iserver.stem.com> References: <5p0g4q$dlh@fido.transit.ru> Hello, Vladimir -- & others who use CVS on NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP rtr@user.transit.ru (transit shell) wrote: >Hi, > >Could anybody suggest me how to wrap/unwrap .nib files to store them into cvs >repository? > >Thank you in advance. > >Vladimir THE PROBLEM: GNU's CVS (Concurrent Version System) is useful for archiving source code and documentation. It has trouble with InterfaceBuilder, though. InterfaceBuilder destroys the CVS information inside the *.nib files (directories) when it modifies a *.nib. (Actually, it fails to copy the CVS stuff from the old version of the *.nib into the new.) Consequently, one can archive a *.lproj directory with CVS, but if one checks out a version, then modifies its *.nib files, and then tries to archive the new version, -- frustration! A SOLUTION: Bob Vadnais wrote a Palette for InterfaceBuilder, called CVSPalette. CVSPalette attaches to InterfaceBuilder and fixes the problem; it copies the CVS stuff when saving a *.nib document. Christopher Lane recently updated it for InterfaceBuilder 4.2. Those who use NEXTSTEP 3.x and CVS can get CVSPalette from Bob's archive submission: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/sourcelibrary/palettes/ CVS.NIHS.bs.tar.gz CVS.ReadMe Those who use OPENSTEP 4.2 are invited to e-mail me; I'll send you this work by Bob and Christopher. (I've not tested it in 4.0 or 4.1, and this does not apply to OPENSTEP/NT -- CVS is UNIX.) If Bob Vadnais reads this, -- Hey, thanks, Bob! -- he might want to submit this update. Unfortunately, I was unable to contact him at PDH and NeXT. Don Briggs dbriggs@stem.com <standard disclaimer> Of course, fixing InterfaceBuilder itself would be preferable, but the NeXT folks are probably all pretty busy, right now ...
From: gregor@crosslink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: ZyXEL FAX Modem won't receive FAXes Date: 1 Jul 1997 03:40:20 GMT Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <5p9u74$d98$1@kronos.crosslink.net> References: <5p8nu2$30l@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: daj@nwu.edu In <5p8nu2$30l@news.acns.nwu.edu> daj@nwu.edu wrote: > I have NXFax.app (a license'd copy) and a ZyXEL Omni 2864 Fax Modem. > What does it take to get the modem to receive faxes? Dave: Try this. It fixed my problem and sounds like the same thing I ran into: -login as root -launch Terminal app -type the following command: dwrite <your modem name> AuxATCommand "ATS18=0 note: use the name of your modem as shown in print manager app. the last line is 18 equals 0. My eyes are getting tired and I cant tell whether it is` showing up as an equals symbol. -press enter in order for the dwrite to take effect, you must restart the fax driver from a terminal window by issuing the following command: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/exec_faxes -press enter hope this works for you! Best regards Gregor
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From: Daniel Burckhardt <daniel.burckhardt@usa.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: mSQL 2.0 Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 09:46:42 +0200 Organization: Inferno Message-ID: <33B8B5E2.41C6@usa.net> References: <33B76796.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan Ried wrote: > > Hi, > > Anbody got mSQL2.0 beta 7.1 compiled for NeXTStep or OpenStep/mach ? > > There is no mmap included in NeXT's mach. Are there ways around it ? The following code comes from the Msql FAQ list - I haven't tried it yet myself lately /* * @(#)map.c 1.0 of 20 December 1996 * * Copyright (c) 1996 by Fabien Roy. * Written by Fabien Roy and Robert Ehrlich. * Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.fr Robert.Ehrlich@inria.fr * Not derived from licensed software. * * Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any * purpose on any computer system, and to redistribute it freely, * subject to the following restrictions: * * 1. The author is not responsible for the consequences of use of * this software, no matter how awful, even if they arise * from defects in it. * * 2. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented, either * by explicit claim or by omission. * * 3. Altered versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not * be misrepresented as being the original software. * */ #include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/mman.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include <syscall.h> caddr_t mmap(caddr_t addr, size_t len, int prot, int flags, int fd, off_t off) { int pagelessone = getpagesize() -1; int size; caddr_t pageaddress; /* round to next page size */ size = (len + pagelessone) & ~pagelessone; /* allocate aligned pages */ if (!(pageaddress = (caddr_t) valloc(size))) return (caddr_t) -1; /* map it */ if (syscall(SYS_mmap, pageaddress, size, prot, flags, fd, off)){ free(pageaddress); return (caddr_t) -1; } return pageaddress; } void munmap(caddr_t addr, size_t len) { syscall(SYS_munmap,addr,len); free(addr); } > > What about a EOF-Adaptor. Is there anybody working on that already ? There is code for an msql EOF Adaptor, but since it was written for 3.3 and I'm running 4.1 I didn't get it to link correctly (though it compiled ok). You can find the code in the usual archives, if not send me a mail. -- daniel burckhardt, inferno solutions, zurich switzerland fone +41 1 272 86 07 daniel.burckhardt@usa.net
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From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help: NXImage.... Date: 1 Jul 1997 10:32:52 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <5pamck$3b6$2@news.cc.umr.edu> Hi, I have a problem. I am working on a image processing application on NextStep 3.2. I am using NXImage class with NXBitmapImageRep to specify the bitmap for the image. For this I provide the image data as a unsigned char array to the "initData: pixelsWide: pixelsHigh:.... procedure of NXBitmapImageRep. Now I make some changes to the image data (by changing pixel value in the array)!! How do I make it visible on the window. I mean when I say display should the changes not show up on the window??? Please help... If I need to take some other path to composite the NXImage please let me know... Thanx in advance ... Sanjeev
Message-ID: <33B93F8B.B2428EA@zipatoni.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 11:34:03 -0600 From: doc <doc@zipatoni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need Boot Floppys Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Primary Network. http://www.primary.net Hi, Does anyone have a copy of the NS 3.3 bootfloppy? I am looking for both Motorola and Intel. I have tried to download the disk images from the NeXT web site but I can't get RAWRITE to work in either DOS or Windows. If anyone has a bootfloppy that they could e-mail me or if someone could talk me through creating the bootfloppy from the floppyimage I would appreciate it. thanks very much. doc@zipatoni.com
From: ?digman?@neosoft.com (Larry Campbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: What I learned from apple today... Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 15:18:43 -0500 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <?digman?-0107971518430001@scooter-ppp-port-19.neosoft.com> References: <5pajcd$eac@news.asu.edu> Here you go,guys. Laugh? I thought I'd die. -Larry In article <5pajcd$eac@news.asu.edu>, leereyno@imap2.asu.edu wrote: > Today I saw a presentation on Apple's new OS linup including Rhapsody. I > was impressed with what they are trying to do, Apple has finally seemed > to get smart people at the top who know what is going on. If they do > what they are planning to do and do it right, they have a good chance of > both saving Apple and competing successfully with MS in operating > systems. I'm not sure that it is going to happen though. Rhapsody seems > a lot like a mac flavor of OS/2. It will run all the legacy apps and > also new apps which take full advantage of the new operating system. > This is what OS/2 was for the PC. This is a good thing when you look > just at the mac platform, but when you bring the pc into the picture > things get more complicated and uncertain. Rhapsody will also have a > version for the pc. Two versions in fact. The first will be a stand > alone OS which will likely be an updated and improved version of > OpenStep. The second version is designed to run on top of Windows 95 or > NT. Why is this important? It's important because of what they are > planning to do. Their plans are for developers to be able to develop for > both platforms at the same time because the source code will be 100 > percent portable from one to the other. This is hard to do, but it can > be done. It is what MS tried to do with NT and what you already have > under unix at least partially. OpenSTEP is a phenomenal operating > system. It's not perfect, but it has an excellent foundation, unlike > windows 95 or NT. If a house has a good foundation you can fix most > anything else, the same goes for operating systems. Apple is appearently > putting their GUI on top of openstep which is a smart thing to do. Many > people like the mac because they are easier for non-technical people to > use. I have always disliked the macs lack of a robust operating system. > By combining the mac's ease of use with the power of openstep, Apple has > created the operating system they should have had five years ago. The > other important thing is developers. Apple is working hard to win the > support of developers. This is what will make or break the operating > system overall. If a great deal of development takes place, Rhapsody > will be a success. I'm of the opinion that this development will take > place. The mac applicatons will bleed over to the pc side because > development for one platform will mean easy development for the other. > If enough great applications can be developed for Rhapsody, pc users will > start to use it as well. If the operating system is good enough and > becomes popular, MS's monopoly can be broken. If this is destined to > happen, MS will help make it happen by not supporting the operating > system. The leading applications will be written by other companies such > as Claris and MS will have a to play catch up if they ever do develop for > it. If it is successful they will eventually, but not at first which > will work against them in the long run. There is a lot more that I could > say, but this is enough for now. > > Lee Reynolds > leereyno@imap2.asu.edu
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From: dietzsch@wise.wiwi.tu-dresden.de (Andreas Dietzsch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: EOF for Openstep on Solaris available? Date: 2 Jul 1997 08:02:31 GMT Organization: TU Dresden (URZ) Message-ID: <5pd1un$4ph$1@rks1.urz.tu-dresden.de> Does anyone know if the EOF is available for Openstep 1.0 on Solaris? If yes, where can I get it? thank you Andreas Dietzsch dietzsch@wise.wiwi.tu-dresden.de
From: tph1001@cus.cam.ac.uk (T.P Harte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: teTeX installation Date: 2 Jul 1997 12:20:46 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5pdh2u$6nb@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Thanks to all who responded to my "NeXTTeX Installation" request. I have installed teTeX (which is remarkably well documented and easy to use with NeXT compared to the TeX Live CD!) and TeXView Release3.0 kpathsearch0.25. Two quick questions: i) Any documents which I display must be at a screen resolution of 120 or more in order to be able to view symbols in a LaTeX document which has \usepackage{amsfonts} \usepackage{amssymb} TeXView doesn't display \mathbb characters on the screen otherwise. The problem is that this makes the main window quite large, and even then the text scarcely appears even close to the PostScript output. The text looks very thin and is indistinguishable from any of the text that is typeset in courier. How do I load the necessary screen fonts for a decent screen output? I thought that this was done automatically as PostScript fonts are included with the teTeX distribution? ii) TeXView seems to be defaulting to some old manuals referring to NeXTTeX. Where can I obtain new documentation for this TeXView release? Thanks, -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university. +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; deep philosophical thingy: how come $\{rm knuth\}\cap\{rm html\}=\{\varnothing\}$?
Subject: Re: CVS and .nib files Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software References: <5p0g4q$dlh@fido.transit.ru> <5p0sdu$nea@iserver.stem.com> In-Reply-To: <5p0sdu$nea@iserver.stem.com> From: vincent@sente.ch (Vincent Kohler) Message-ID: <33ba574c.0@epflnews.epfl.ch> Date: 2 Jul 97 13:27:40 GMT On 06/27/97, dbriggs@stem.com wrote: > >Hello, Vladimir -- & others who use CVS on NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP > >rtr@user.transit.ru (transit shell) wrote: >>Hi, >> >>Could anybody suggest me how to wrap/unwrap .nib files to store them into cvs >>repository? >> >>Thank you in advance. >> >>Vladimir > [..] >A SOLUTION: >Bob Vadnais wrote a Palette for InterfaceBuilder, called CVSPalette. [..] Another solution is to configure correctly the cvswrappers file within $CVSROOT/ in order to have a real wrapped nib. This option works well, too. Unfortunately it won't work in client/server because cvswrappers are not supported under this mode. I had some bad experience with CVSPalette which didn't copied the CVS subdir in a reliable way, at least with my configuration. Cvswrappers are very useful for diagram, quantrix and others wrapped files. Here is an extract of my cvswrappers: *.nib -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s \ %s' -m 'COPY' *.rtfd -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s \ %s' *.draw -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s \ %s' *.quantrix -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap \ %s %s' -m 'COPY' Regards Vincent -- ---------------------------------------- Vincent Kohler vincent@sente.ch (NextMail welcome) Sen:te Parc Scientifique - EPFL - Switzerland
From: "Jean-Claude" <murdocks@mbox.vol.it> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: H E L P ME !!!! I NEED HELP Date: 22 Jun 1997 12:53:12 GMT Organization: Telecom Italia - Video On Line Message-ID: <01bc7f0b$c9e754c0$00010101@murdock> Hi my helper friend... i've got another problem and i'm here for ask you some help... I've downloaded the NET SURFER from a ftp site... but.... HOW CAN I LET NEXTSTEP TO SEE IT AS A PACKAGE ???!?!? the was a blablabla_tar.gz... i've decompressed it under winNT UNZIP and it have made the directory structure of the package.. but NEXTSTEP don't see it as a package.. i've tried to use UNIX command but NEXTSTEP says that cannot exctract files beacuse file name too long (???).. when you've send to me the matrox pkg. the file name was long !! but i don't remember how i have used it.. I've this problem ever when i download a file from internet under WINNT... can you take me a WEB BROWSER for NEXTSTEP and explain me to install correctly the modem, the needed protocol and the software,, to let me navigate the web... and don't disturb you no more ? THANK YOU very much. and i'm very happy to talk with you about Nextstep because i like very much that OS but i'm very beginner to that OS.. eheh.... thank you a lots.. I hope that you can help me..!! Jean-Claude murdocks@mbox.vol.it
From: "Jean-Claude" <murdocks@mbox.vol.it> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE ! Date: 22 Jun 1997 12:53:39 GMT Organization: Telecom Italia - Video On Line Message-ID: <01bc7f0b$dbc4d910$00010101@murdock> Hi my helper friend... i've got another problem and i'm here for ask you some help... I've downloaded the NET SURFER from a ftp site... but.... HOW CAN I LET NEXTSTEP TO SEE IT AS A PACKAGE ???!?!? the was a blablabla_tar.gz... i've decompressed it under winNT UNZIP and it have made the directory structure of the package.. but NEXTSTEP don't see it as a package.. i've tried to use UNIX command but NEXTSTEP says that cannot exctract files beacuse file name too long (???).. when you've send to me the matrox pkg. the file name was long !! but i don't remember how i have used it.. I've this problem ever when i download a file from internet under WINNT... can you take me a WEB BROWSER for NEXTSTEP and explain me to install correctly the modem, the needed protocol and the software,, to let me navigate the web... and don't disturb you no more ? THANK YOU very much. and i'm very happy to talk with you about Nextstep because i like very much that OS but i'm very beginner to that OS.. eheh.... thank you a lots.. I hope that you can help me..!! Jean-Claude murdocks@mbox.vol.it
From: alex@guava.phil.lehigh.edu (Alex Levine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Public window server on OS4.1/NT Date: 2 Jul 1997 14:38:22 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <5pdp4u$190i@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Hi all, One of our boxes here runs NT 4.0 (SP 3), and I installed WebObjects on it. WebObjects comes with a stripped-down version of OpenStep, and with that package installed, I am able to run applications compiled for OS/NT. It would be nice to remotely run applications on that machine from another box running OS/Mach 4.1, using the -NXHost option. Now, I have heard that this works. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out how to enable the public window server option on the NT machine. Can it be done with this version of OpenStep? Cheers! Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: mrflora@aol.com (MRFlora) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: QUIX Computerware web site or email Date: 2 Jul 1997 18:04:20 GMT Message-ID: <19970702180400.OAA20099@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Hello, Anybody know the URL or email addr. for QUIX Computerware AG? Does the company still exist? I am trying to find upgrades for their Daydream h/w and s/w. Thanks, Michael Flora mrflora@aol.com
From: Ken W <hazmat@shore.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT x86 and System Commander? Date: 2 Jul 1997 18:51:24 GMT Organization: Shore.Net; a service of Eco Software, Inc. (info@shore.net) Message-ID: <5pe7vc$qal@fridge-nf0.shore.net> I am curious about NeXT for x86 and how it works with System Commander. NeXT requires a boot disk, so would you boot right to it or boot to it via SC? And how much disk space is a full NeXT x86 install? Thanks. -Ken -- hazmat@shore.net panic@io.com http://www.shore.net/~hazmat
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From: szallies@gehirnbrei.energotec.de (Constantin Szallies) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CVS and .nib files Date: 1 Jul 1997 15:04:08 GMT Organization: Technet GmbH Message-ID: <5pb698$osk$1@oxygen.technet.net> References: <5p0g4q$dlh@fido.transit.ru> <5p0sdu$nea@iserver.stem.com> dbriggs@stem.com wrote: > >Hello, Vladimir -- & others who use CVS on NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP > >rtr@user.transit.ru (transit shell) wrote: >>Hi, >> >>Could anybody suggest me how to wrap/unwrap .nib files to store them into cvs >>repository? >> >>Thank you in advance. >> >>Vladimir > >THE PROBLEM: >GNU's CVS (Concurrent Version System) is useful for archiving source >code and documentation. It has trouble with InterfaceBuilder, though. >InterfaceBuilder destroys the CVS information inside the *.nib files >(directories) when it modifies a *.nib. (Actually, it fails to >copy the CVS stuff from the old version of the *.nib into the new.) >Consequently, one can archive a *.lproj directory with CVS, but if >one checks out a version, then modifies its *.nib files, and then >tries to archive the new version, -- frustration! > SOLUTION 2: To solve the nib file problem, checkout the file cwswrappers in the repository CVSROOT and add the following lines: *.nib -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s %s' *.rtfd -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s %s' *.draw -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s %s' *.tiff -m 'COPY' *.eps -m 'COPY' *.snd -m 'COPY' Then commit. The binaries wrap and unwrap come with the cvs distribution and go into the CVSROOT directory. Works well. We are using local cvs + NFS imported repository. Greetings -- # Constantin Szallies, Energotec GmbH # szallies@energotec.de # 49211-9144018
From: "Greg Shaw" <gshaw@zeta.org.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE ! Date: 3 Jul 1997 00:03:19 GMT Organization: Decisionware Message-ID: <01bc8744$68812030$180b1acb@decisionware> References: <01bc7f0b$dbc4d910$00010101@murdock> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jean-Claude, A little more information in the subject line would probably get you more informed responses. The problem with your download is that some applications on NT can't handle more than one '.' in the filename so they change all but one of them to '_'. You will see that your filename is blabla_tar.gz. Change this to blabla.tar.gz from within NeXT and then decompress it. The tar file your are left with can be untarred and I would expect you will end up with a pkg file. All suffixes are important under unix rather than just one as under NT (DOS). Hope this helps. Cheers, Greg Shaw. Jean-Claude <murdocks@mbox.vol.it> wrote in article <01bc7f0b$dbc4d910$00010101@murdock>... > Hi my helper friend... > i've got another problem and i'm here for ask you some help... > I've downloaded the NET SURFER from a ftp site... but.... > HOW CAN I LET NEXTSTEP TO SEE IT AS A PACKAGE ???!?!? > the was a blablabla_tar.gz... i've decompressed it under winNT UNZIP and > it have made the directory structure of the package.. but NEXTSTEP don't > see it as a package.. > > i've tried to use UNIX command but NEXTSTEP says that cannot exctract files > beacuse file name too long (???).. > <snip> > > Jean-Claude > > murdocks@mbox.vol.it > > > >
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From: rvose@ix.netcom.com (R. Vose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 Intel Install Question Date: 3 Jul 1997 02:00:53 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5pf14l$t05@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm a long time (licensed) black hardware user and was just noticing that my NS 3.3 CD says "For Intel Processors and NeXT Computers" on it. Since I have an extra hard drive for my Intel box, I thought I would try installing 3.3. The installation diskette which came with the CD explicitly states that it's for NeXT hardware, so I assume that I need an Intel installation disk. I checked NeXTAnswers and there was an Intel boot floppy image, which I did download. However, after I unpacked it to a diskette, it really didn't do anything for me. So, my question is this: can I use the NS 3.3 CD (which I used to install my black system) to install the OS on an Intel system? If so -- I assume I need an Intel installation diskette... which I don't know where to find. My Intel system cannot read the 3.3 CD... so maybe I'm hoping for too much here... Any help is appreciated! Thanks in advance... -- Randy V. rvose@ix.netcom.com Denver, CO
From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rob Blessin? Blackhole, Inc? Where are you? Date: 3 Jul 1997 03:33:31 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5pf6ib$qrv@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> I e-mailed Rob Blessin (Blackhole, Inc.) to purchase OpenStep 4.2 but my message bounced back. I can try purchase through the bookstore, but that usually takes forever, at least in our college. Any other suggestions? Thanks. Vicki Bragin -- ********************************************************** Victoria M. Bragin E-mail: vbragin@ix.netcom.com Associate Professor of Chemistry, Physical Sciences Division Pasadena City College, 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 **********************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: lparkyn@prosoft.com (Lyle Parkyn) Subject: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris Message-ID: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> Sender: lparkyn@prosoft.com (Lyle Parkyn) Organization: ProSoft Solutions Inc. (RDS Site) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 03:44:29 GMT I am contemplateing installing OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris 2.5.1 on a Sparc 5. I've downloaded the free user environment from Sun's web site. I assume 1.0 the latest release, I couldn't find anything newer. Does anyone have any comments on their experience? In particular I am wondering about performance, reliability, stability, interaction with CDE, installation gotchas and any other comments you have to offer. *** *** Please reply to: parkyn@mdd.comm.mot.com *** -thanks -- Lyle Parkyn ProSoft Solutions Inc. (http://www.prosoft.com) lparkyn@prosoft.com (NeXTmail, text or MIME formats welcome) Bus:(604)324-3311 Fax:(604)538-7694
From: gvandyk@icon.co.za Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CVS and .nib files Date: 3 Jul 1997 05:28:40 GMT Organization: E.S. Systems cc (Financial Systems Development) Message-ID: <5pfda8$3hg$1@hermes.is.co.za> References: <5p0g4q$dlh@fido.transit.ru> <5p0sdu$nea@iserver.stem.com> <33ba574c.0@epflnews.epfl.ch> In-Reply-To: <33ba574c.0@epflnews.epfl.ch> On 07/02/97, Vincent Kohler wrote: >Here is an extract of my cvswrappers: > >*.nib -f '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/unwrap %s' -t '$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/wrap %s \ >%s' -m 'COPY' I am doing the same and I agree it works very well. I also had a lot of problems with CVSPalette, sometimes it wrote the CVS files and sometimes it didn't, totally iconsistent, so I started using wrappers. The only problem I had with wrappers is that I couldn't find the "wrap" and "unwrap" Utilities and I wrote my own. Was this the right thing to do or did I miss something somewhere -- Regards, Gerrit van Dyk email: gvandyk@icon.co.za (NeXTMail welcome) E.S. Systems cc The OBJECT is the ADVANTAGE
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rob Blessin? Blackhole, Inc? Where are you? Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 07:35:40 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Message-ID: <msg88154.thr-1016060f.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <5pf6ib$qrv@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <msg88154.thr-1016060f.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>vbragin@ix.netcom.com,UseNet writes:</bold> >I e-mailed Rob Blessin (Blackhole, Inc.) to purchase OpenStep 4.2 but = >my message bounced back. I can try purchase through the bookstore, = >but that usually takes forever, at least in our college. Any other = >suggestions? Try: bhi1@ix.netcom.com I just communicated with him via this address yesterday. -- = David Herren www.cet.middlebury.edu/herren/ Assoc. Dir. for Tech. & Instruction herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Center for Educational Technology MaBell:(802) 443-5746 Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753 dot syntax sux
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970702.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970623.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970616.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 02 Jul 1997 23:00:00 -0600 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly Last-modified: 1997-Apr-03 FAQ-Last-modified: 1997-Jun-11 comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq> and also at <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/spreadsheets/faq/>
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there? Date: 3 Jul 1997 14:54:53 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5omell$3ra@news.asu.edu> <UnfjrQ200iWn091LE0@andrew.cmu.edu> <5oo2ai$sdj$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote: > Speaking of OmniWeb.. it seems thatit might be replacing Cyberdog!=) I > guess OmniGroup guys have been waiting long enuff for a pay off.. > Good job guys! > > http://rumors.netexpress.net/ > > OpenStep's OmniWeb web browser exposed > > Our good friends at Webintosh have put together a little > feature on NeXT OpenStep's > proprietary web browser, OmniWeb, and its many features. > According to Apple sources, a > port of this browser is expected to eventually replace > CyberDog as Apple's own web > browser technology. It's definitely a step in the right > direction; however, Rhapsody > developers haven't set a definite date for this sub-project, > and it's likely that users will have to > wait until mid-1998 to see OmniWeb for Rhapsody. > Too bad my personal web pages look like crap under OmniWeb (but good under Netscape) and that OmniWeb is pretty slow... -- Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck --------------------------------------------------------------------- chuck_esterbrook@orcacomputer.com / vo 540 231-3475 / fx 540 231-3480 Orca Computer, Inc. / 1800 Kraft Dr. Suite 111 / Blacksburg, VA 24060
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor Date: 3 Jul 1997 16:40:03 GMT Message-ID: <19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <33AAC1D0.9DBE9FDD@novell.com> I'd be interested in learning more about WebPages--is it commercial? shareware? freeware? Is there a demo/working copy on an FTP site? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there? Date: 3 Jul 1997 17:24:39 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5pgn8n$kgj@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> In article <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com writes: > godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote: > Too bad my personal web pages look like crap under OmniWeb (but good > under Netscape) Too bad your personal web pages use bad html then. (-; (I didn't really see anything that looked like "crap" with OmniwWeb at the address in your sig -- http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck ) Really, in my experience, pages that look different in NS (and MSIE) than OmniWeb usually mean you've used poor html somewhere. > and that OmniWeb is pretty slow... It's a bit slower, but that's attributable to the fact that it renders tables slowly. Other than that, it's not bad, speedwise. I'm always amazed at how much more productive I am surfing the web when using OmniWeb at work versus my using NS or MSIE at home, where I miss my favorite features: drag-n-drop images and the Processes Inspector. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: mmalcolm crawford <Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: looking for Quicken, etc Date: 3 Jul 1997 10:34:49 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5pfv89$ooj$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5o06ff$amt$1@brokaw.wa.com> In-Reply-To: <5o06ff$amt$1@brokaw.wa.com> On 06/15/97, max@maxgraphic.com wrote: >In an effort to migrate my personal tasks from Mac to NeXTstation, I'm trying >to find Quicken or a Quicken-compatible app for NS 3.3 black. Did Intuit ever >make a NeXT version? Any free/shareware solutions? > You could try Stone Design's CheckSum http://www.stone.com/ > Also, are there any ClarisWorks-level simple database apps out there? > Sorry, I don't know exactly what you're after here; you could try Stone's DataPhile, or OpenBase? > I'm also looking for a simple spreadsheet. I have SC, but would prefer > something with a GUI. > Well, not exactly "simple"... our spreadsheet, Mesa, has most of the core functionality of Excel: http://www.plsys.co.uk/plsys/ You might also be pleased to know that we're porting Mesa to OpenStep; it's going well, and features some enhancements over the current version, and it has alreadys been demonstrated running on Rhapsody. Anyone buying Mesa now will get some sort of credit towards the Rhapsody version (we haven't quite worked out the details yet). Best wishes, mmalc. Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm --
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From: kevin parks <kpp@dartmouth.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: *.wn -> .rtf ? Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 23:59:01 +0000 Organization: dartmouth college - music dept. Message-ID: <33BC3CC3.2630@dartmouth.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: comp.sys.next.misc Hi! I may be having to shut down my old beloved NeXTs for good soon and I need to make some backups of all my WriteNow texts and have been converting them to rtf on the NeXT end of things and porting them to them MAC and that has worked without a hitch so far. However I have like 5 years worth of files and this could take forever. Is there any way to convert all my WriteNow files to rtf in batch. instead of opening each individual file and doing a save as. like a: % mkrtf -R *.wn Claris's open menu has an option for WriteNow NeXT, but it simply doesn't work. Probably because any NeXT wn file is really a folder in wrapper. any help would be appreciated. I look in my file viewer at all my articles and correspondence, etc with all those .wn extensions and just sigh. cheers, kevin parks
From: kevin parks <kpp@dartmouth.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: *.wn -> .rtf ? Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 00:05:16 +0000 Organization: Dartmouth College Message-ID: <33BC3E3C.49F5@dartmouth.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: comp.sys.next.misc Hi! I may be having to shut down my old beloved NeXTs for good soon and I need to make some backups of all my WriteNow texts and have been converting them to rtf on the NeXT end of things and porting them to them MAC and that has worked without a hitch so far. However I have like 5 years worth of files and this could take forever. Is there any way to convert all my WriteNow files to rtf in batch. instead of opening each individual file and doing a save as. like a: % mkrtf -R *.wn Claris's open menu has an option for WriteNow NeXT, but it simply doesn't work. Probably because any NeXT wn file is really a folder in wrapper. any help would be appreciated. I look in my file viewer at all my articles and correspondence, etc with all those .wn extensions and just sigh. cheers, kevin parks
From: fpottier@pauillac.inria.fr (Francois Pottier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CVS and .nib files Date: 4 Jul 1997 07:30:52 GMT Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt, BP 105, 78153 Le Chesnay Cedex, France Message-ID: <5pi8rc$a6g@news-rocq.inria.fr> References: <5p0g4q$dlh@fido.transit.ru> <5p0sdu$nea@iserver.stem.com> <33ba574c.0@epflnews.epfl.ch> <5pfda8$3hg$1@hermes.is.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: In article <5pfda8$3hg$1@hermes.is.co.za>, <gvandyk@icon.co.za> wrote: >On 07/02/97, Vincent Kohler wrote: >The only problem I had with wrappers is that I couldn't find the >"wrap" and "unwrap" Utilities and I wrote my own. Was this the right >thing to do or did I miss something somewhere My distribution of cvs didn't have wrap and unwrap either (it's a cvs 1.9 which I found on the RedHat Linux CD). I simply use tar instead and everything seems to work fine. -- François Pottier Francois.Pottier@inria.fr http://pauillac.inria.fr/~fpottier/
From: J.Penning@t-online.de (J. Penning & G. Gabbert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: Kbd problem upgrading Cube to 3.2 Date: 3 Jul 1997 08:42:42 GMT Organization: Telekom Online Internet Gateway Message-ID: <5pfom2$cfh$2@news02.btx.dtag.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks, yesterday I upgraded a cube from Nextstep 3.0 to 3.2. Everything was fine, finally I chose german language and keyboard, which is quite appropriate (me living in Hamburg). Now I have an english keyboard during login. Someone must have had this before, please tell me what to do. Besides, would you recommend upgrading a cube to 4.2? Why/why not? Thanks in advance, Joerg. -- Joerg Penning, Student at the comp. science dep. at the University of Hamburg email j.penning@t-online.de, penning@informatik.uni-hamburg.de
From: Paul WINDEY <windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nexstep on laptop? Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 15:00:56 +0200 Organization: Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI) Message-ID: <33BCF408.F48C8185@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I would like to install NextStep on a notebook. If you have done so successfully and recently (machines with 133 Mhz or 166) could you please e-mail me the brand name and model with comments if something was tricky? I would have to be able to do it myself. I know that some integrators in the US sell laptops with preinstalled NeXStep but this solution is not easily feasible for me since I have to go to resellers in France for the machine to be paid by my academic funding agency. The brands which seem to have interesting laptops at a price I could afford (french prices do not easily compare to US ones) are Thinkpads by IBM, Gateway and Dell, possibly Toshiba. Thanks a lot for any comments (and encouragements!) Paul Windey, LPTHE Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI) Bte 126 4pl Jussieu F-75252 Paris CEDEX 05, FRANCE e-mail: windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr tel: 33-01-4427 7456 (Secretariat: 4427 4121) FAX: 33-01-4427 73 93
From: gxa114@wileypost.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT MIDI problem. Date: 4 Jul 1997 14:37:55 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5pj1s3$1e92@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Im trying to get Sequence working on my NeXTStation 040/NON-ADB, but am having some difficulty. I made the custom cables according to the info in the "man zs" document (040-030 cable) When I run Sequence, I get a "Cannot acquire MIDI Resources" for both port A and port B. The interface is a Opcode Studio3. The OS is Nextstep 3.3, and is a fresh install with nothing but the OS and Sequence. Is this a cable problem, or are my serial ports both fried? Maybe I need some software installed that I dont know about. Thanks for the help. Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeOS Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there? Date: 4 Jul 1997 14:58:32 GMT Organization: The PEAK ftp site for OpenStep and NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <5pj32o$i7f$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <5pgn8n$kgj@crcnis3.unl.edu> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: >In article <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> >Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com writes: >> godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote: >> Too bad my personal web pages look like crap under OmniWeb (but good >> under Netscape) > >Too bad your personal web pages use bad html then. (-; (I didn't really >see anything that looked like "crap" with OmniwWeb at the address in your >sig -- http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck ) >Really, in my experience, pages that look different in NS (and MSIE) than >OmniWeb usually mean you've used poor html somewhere. Yup, especially if your definition of 'bad html' included proprietary HTML tags which are made up and controlled soley by either netscape or MSIE. If your definition doesn't include such HTML, then you need to upgrade. HTML was supposed to be a format where you could publish a page on any computer and it could be read on any computer. MSIE wants to move it back to you have to have M$ to use the Internet, and Netscape wants to remain unique so it can stay afloat.... so we came up with PDF for distributing files that can be read on any computer (but how do you make them?!? You need a special app -- ARGH!) and soon enough PDF will become more and more specialized. >I'm always amazed at how much more productive I am surfing the web when >using OmniWeb at work versus my using NS or MSIE at home, where I miss my >favorite features: drag-n-drop images and the Processes Inspector. netscape tried to imitate OW's bookmarks, and did a bad job of it. I've had to use netscape a lot lately, and really dislike it and wish OW was available on my crappy work M$ boxes.... TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: Matthias Klose <Matthias.Klose@cs.tu-berlin.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nexstep on laptop? Date: 04 Jul 1997 19:21:59 +0200 Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <78g1tuviko.fsf@cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <33BCF408.F48C8185@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Paul WINDEY <windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr> writes: > I would like to install NextStep on a notebook. > If you have done so successfully and recently (machines with 133 Mhz or > 166) could you please e-mail me the brand name and model with comments > if something was tricky? I would have to be able to do it myself. > I know that some integrators in the US sell laptops with preinstalled > NeXStep but this solution is not easily feasible for me since I have to > go to resellers in France for the machine to be paid by my academic > funding agency. > > The brands which seem to have interesting laptops at a price I could > afford (french prices do not easily compare to US ones) are Thinkpads by > IBM, Gateway and Dell, possibly Toshiba. Some experiences with an IBM 760ED (133Mhz) and a Toshiba 730XCDT (150MMX): - both have a XGA display (1024x768) which is definitely needed with Nextstep. NXFactor claims a factor of 1.4 for the IBM and 1.0 for the Toshiba in high color. Next supports a driver for the IBM display; you can get drivers for the Toshiba by www.bifrostworks.com - installation on the IBM is straightforward; the installation on the Toshiba is a little bit tricky (HD and CDROM on separate EIDE adaptors). - Sound isn't supported on the IBM, since they use incompatible hardware (neither is the modem and the infrared port supported). Until now, I can live with the Beep driver on the IBM. (On Linux you can get sound support by booting Windows and then warm-booting Nextstep. How can I warm-boot Nextstep?) - both have APM support; on the IBM you can turn off power for each interface separately (but you to switch to Windows or DOS to do this). The batteries last for two hours. Some Non-Nextstep related arguments: - The Toshiba is heavy: more than four kilos. The IBM is more compact and is quite portable (three kilos). - both notebooks come with 16MB RAM. The IBM has two free SO-DIMM slots, the Toshiba has only one (not a problem, if you buy a 32MB or 64MB module). My notebooks runs well with 48MB. - I am not sure, if the SCSI adaptores are supported in the docking stations (Anybody who knows?) - Modem on the IBM: Well, I really dislike the attitude of IBM (at least in Germany)! They sell you the computer with internal Modem, but they do not say that you have to buy an extra telephony adaptor, which costs an extra 320DEM ($180). (HELP: Can anybody tell me, if I can get the US telephony adaptor? Probably people owning such notebooks don't read new anymore ...) - Support: I had a flickering display when charging the battery with the IBM. They will exchange it without comment. No experiences with Toshiba support. Both notebooks have three years warrenty! - For both notebooks you get drivers for Windows NT; so at least you have sound support on the IBM with Openstep/NT :-) - The IBM has builtin MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 decoding (supported on all OS, of course except Nextstep and Linux) - On the Toshiba zou can switch the key caps for the CapsLock and the Control key to get the keys in the one and only position. Nice! On the IBM you have to change the keymapping and you will have to live with the wrong caps. > Thanks a lot for any comments (and encouragements!) If you want to have a machine for the road, the IBM is probably better suited. However with Nextstep you have to buy an extra PCMCIA modem. The Toshiba has nicer support for Nextstep, but is not so nice to transport. Although the graphics performance for both notebooks differs, there are notebooks from other venders, which have much better graphics performance (At least the WinGraphics Bench says this, see www.zdnet.com) If money doesn't matter, have a look at the even larger 13.3" displays, else have a look for either the IBM 760ED or the Toshiba 730CDT (no MMX). At least here in Germany they dropped prices for these models. Hope, this helps, Matthias
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor Date: 4 Jul 1997 15:56:06 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5pj6em$eq2$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <33AAC1D0.9DBE9FDD@novell.com> <19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com> On 07/03/97, WillAdams wrote: >I'd be interested in learning more about WebPages--is it commercial? >shareware? freeware? Pages is history for quite a while now. After Pages Inc went out of business, the Pages code was bought by IT Solutions who supported it for a short while. That too ended long ago. This is all part of the past now. The program had a lot of promise as an object-oriented publishing .app, but neither Pages itself nor the HTML export filters for it were ever really "finished". There were quirks and bugs that needed work to make the .app competitive in 1994/5. Even if it was still available today, it couldn't compete with the Web development tools available on "that other platform" today. Perhaps under Rhapsody we'll get some good Web tools. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
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From: a17@a.a Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: $ DO YOU HATE YOUR JOB?? $ Date: 4 Jul 97 08:17:27 GMT Organization: 20 Message-ID: <33bcb197.0@news.genesisnetwork.net> $50,000.00 for only $5.00 within 2 MONTHS????? ============================================== You gotta be crazy! How on earth do you think you can buy 50 grand for lousy 5 bucks? Well, that's what I was wondering, too until I came across this letter. First of all, IT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL! (Call 1-800-725-2161) if you have any questions about the following opportunity to make $50,000.00 and that probably WITHIN LESS THAN TWO MONTHS! Well, here it goes: A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $5.00! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a joke," but like most of us I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 5 names and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #5, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands) No catch, that was it. I knew that that was the opportunity I had waited for for a long time. I thought it was about time that the money of the world gets into the right hands! OURS, right? I never had a doubt that this thing will actually work and even if it didn't, what were 5 stamps and $5.00 for a try? As I mentioned before, like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Now, that's how your story WILL sound like, too if you participate: Well GUESS WHAT!!... with in 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it another thought. But the money just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about $20.00 to $30.00 dollars. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00!!!!!! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in ....... Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, Why it works....also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. The process is very simple and consists of 3 easy steps: STEP 1: Get 5 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Now get 5 $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 5 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the 5 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 5 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service by this. THIS IS PERFECTLY LEGAL! Mail the 5 envelopes to the following addresses: #1 Robert Jezil 114 Jefferson Ave. Slidell, LA 70460 #2 Phil Walther Jr. 9495 Annapolis Lane North Maple Grove, MN 55369 #3 C. E. Burkman 170 University Ave. W Suite 12-129 Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3E9 #4 A. Bailey 1207 Reeves Road Plainfield, IN 46168 #5 J. Martin P.O. Box 2292 Reston, Va. 20190 STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (2 becomes 1, 3 becomes 2, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 5 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there is close to 18,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! Don't know HOW to post in the newsgroups? Well do exactly the following: FOR NETSCAPE USERS: 1) Click on any newsgroup, like normal. Then click on "To News", which is in the top left corner of the newsgroup page. This will bring up a message box. 2) Fill in the SUBJECT with a flashy title, like the one I used, something to catch the eye!!! 3) Now go to the message part of the box and retype this letter exactly as it is here, with exception of your few changes. (remember to add your name to number 5 and move the rest up) 4) When your done typing in the WHOLE letter, click on 'FILE' above the send button. Then, 'SAVE AS..' DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTILL YOU SAVE IT. (so you don't have to type this 200 times :-) 5) Now that you have saved the letter, go ahead and send your first copy! (click the 'SEND' button in the top left corner) 6) This is where you post all 200! OK, go to ANY newsgroup article and click the 'TO NEWS' button again. Type in your flashy subject in the 'SUBJECT BOX', then go to the message and place your cursor here. Now click on 'ATTACHMENT' which is right below the 'SUBJECT BOX'. Click on attach file then find your letter wherever you saved it. Click once on your file then click 'OPEN' then click 'OK'. If you did this right , you should see your filename in the 'ATTACHMENT BOX' and it will be shaded. NOW POST AWAY! FOR INTERNET EXPLORER: It's just as easy, holding down the left mouse button, highlight this entire article, then press the 'CTRL' key and 'C' key at the same time to copy this article. Then print the article for your records to have the names of those you will be sending $1.00 to. Go to the newsgroups and press 'POST AN ARTICLE' type in your flashy subject and click the large window below. Press 'CTRL' and 'V' and the article will appear in the message window. **BE SURE TO MAKE YOUR ADDRESS CHANGES TO THE 5 NAMES.** Now re-highlight the article and re-copy it so you have the changes.... then all you have to do for each newsgroup is 'CTRL' and 'V' and press 'POST'. It's that easy!! THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** **If these instructions are too complex to follow, try Forte's "Free Agent." It is freeware for noncommercial use. To download it, simply use a search utility and type "Forte Free Agent". You should be able to find it.** That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you con invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** Now the WHY part: This entire principle works because it is in a format of an upside down tree with thousands of branches. Everyone below you will see to it that the tree continues because they want to get money. Those below THEM will continue because THEY want to get the cash etc. Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #5 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #4 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #3 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #2 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM of 200 letters with my name at #1 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! With a original investment of only $5.00! AMAZING! And as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is probable 20 to 30! So lets put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is what you will make: at #5 $15.00 at #4 $225.00 at #3 $3,375.00 at #2 $50,625.00 at #1 $759,375.00 When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $5.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 5 and start posting again. The thing to remember is that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! And this will go on and on and on and on.... get the picture? Well, there's 5,000,000,000 people on the world and most of them will eventually end up being hooked into the internet. So there are virtually unlimited resources. Of course this will work the best at the very beginning so the faster you post, the better for YOU! So can you afford $5.00 and see if it really works?? I think so! People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest works?? I think so... People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You just have to be honest. Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the basic idea to make the money!! GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from this, which is tons of extra CASH. **By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that's after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 5 $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!! You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars. Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again...
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor Date: 4 Jul 1997 15:59:35 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5pj6l7$nrc$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <33AAC1D0.9DBE9FDD@novell.com> <19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com> On 07/03/97, WillAdams wrote: >I'd be interested in learning more about WebPages--is it commercial? >shareware? freeware? Pages is history for quite a while now. After Pages Inc went out of business, the Pages code was bought by IT Solutions who supported it for a short while. That too ended long ago. This is all part of the past now. The program had a lot of promise as an object-oriented publishing .app, but neither Pages itself nor the HTML export filters for it were ever really "finished". There were quirks and bugs that needed work to make the .app competitive in 1994/5. Even if it was still available today, it couldn't compete with the Web development tools available on "that other platform" today. Perhaps under Rhapsody we'll get some good Web tools. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: Matt Unger matt@oasis.uwec.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: Prelude to Rhapsody bundle Date: 4 Jul 1997 22:40:03 -0700 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire Message-ID: <5pkmnj$aii@drn.zippo.com> I'm interested in buying a copy of the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle. I work in the computing dept. at the UW and need to explain the direction Apple is headed with its OS. Our campus will soon decide on dropping support for Apple products because of all the current OS issues. I am hoping that a demonstration of the software would help to convince the administrators to stay with the company. Any help with this matter would be greatly appreciated by myself and 250 other mac users on campus. Thanks. Direct responses to: Matt Unger - matt@oasis.uwec.edu
From: gregor@crosslink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: QUIX Computerware web site or email Date: 4 Jul 1997 22:24:43 GMT Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Message-ID: <5pjt7b$9l8$1@kronos.crosslink.net> References: <19970702180400.OAA20099@ladder02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: mrflora@aol.com In <19970702180400.OAA20099@ladder02.news.aol.com> MRFlora wrote: > Hello, > Anybody know the URL or email addr. for QUIX Computerware AG? Does the > company still exist? I am trying to find upgrades for their Daydream h/w > and s/w. > > Thanks, > Michael Flora > mrflora@aol.com > Consider QUIX dead in the water. They weren't at all dependable when they were making the product, and NEVER answer e-mail now. Faxes used to be the best bet but I think the number is now disconnected. A couple of months ago I bought (over the net) a Daydream system from an American PHd type studying in Austria. The guy just stuck the whole thing in a paper envelope and sent it uninsured. When it got here, the envelope was ripped open and the ROM box was naturally missing. I tried to contact QUIX for a month, via e-mail, phone and fax to see about a replacement ROM box, but no answer at all. The seller also tried to contact them with no luck. Sorry things aren't more positive. It also seems that Daydream will not run 7.6 either, so the faithful are frozen in time with 7.5.5. best regards Gregor
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5p32fn$n1q$215@news.internetmci.com> Date: 28 Jun 1997 17:22:35 GMT Control: cancel <5p32fn$n1q$215@news.internetmci.com> Message-ID: <cancel.5p32fn$n1q$215@news.internetmci.com> Sender: a;flkjdsalkj@a;sdjfasld.com Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: cunningham@medicalrounds.com[nospam] (Ken Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HOT TO USE TAR AND GUNZIP ??! Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 07:14:08 -0800 Organization: Ken Cunningham, MD, Inc. Message-ID: <cunningham-ya02408000R0507970714080001@news.direct.ca> References: <01bc7f0b$fd444990$00010101@murdock> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <01bc7f0b$fd444990$00010101@murdock>, "Jean-Claude" <murdocks@mbox.vol.it> wrote: > the was a blablabla_tar.gz... i've decompressed it under winNT UNZIP and Mount the DOS disk under NextStep (filenames will be truncated to 8.3). Copy the file to an OpenStep partition that you can write to. (login as root if you're not sure what this means). Open a Terminal window. Navigate to the directory where your file is. Do an 'ls'. Copy the file name with the mouse and alt-C. Type> gzcat filename.tar.gz | tar xvf - (You can use alt-V to paste filename) That'll do it. -- remove [nospam] from email address to send me email please
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 20:02:33 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <wnjMwNm00iWl05Aw80@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <33AAC1D0.9DBE9FDD@novell.com> <19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 3-Jul-97 Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Ed.. by WillAdams@aol.com > I'd be interested in learning more about WebPages--is it commercial? > shareware? freeware? ITS did a friendly acquisition of Pages by Pages Inc when that company went out of business, and created WebPages. WebPages was a commercial product offered by ITS, which is also out of business It was a decent idea for a product at the time, but ITS was hamstrung trying to manage the vast code base comprising Pages/WebPages (something like 100-odd MB of source) in order to do further work on the software. The product simply never had enough sales volume to cover the expense of developing it.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: cunningham@medicalrounds.com[nospam] (Ken Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HOT TO USE TAR AND GUNZIP ??! Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 07:15:29 -0800 Organization: Ken Cunningham, MD, Inc. Message-ID: <cunningham-ya02408000R0507970715290001@news.direct.ca> References: <01bc7f0b$fd444990$00010101@murdock> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <01bc7f0b$fd444990$00010101@murdock>, "Jean-Claude" > i've tried to use UNIX command but NEXTSTEP says that cannot exctract files > beacuse file name too long (???).. You probably tried to extract the files on the DOS partition, which only supports 8.3 filenames. Copy it to the OpenStep partition. See other posting for complete instructions. Ken -- remove [nospam] from email address to send me email please
From: candlish@efn.org (John Candlish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: emacs 19.34.2 , xemacs, supporting java-mode. Date: 4 Jul 1997 19:32:53 -0700 Organization: Oregon Public Networking: Eugene Freenet Message-ID: <5pkbol$3f5@garcia.efn.org> Hi fellow NeXTians. I'm looking for a more modern version of emacs than the one base on 19.28 now available. I recall some discusion about future version of emacs moving to xemacs due to difficulties in maintaining NeXT specific code in the offical emacs source tree. Anyway that was maybe two years ago, and now I _need_ an emacs that uses the current (2.4.1) elisp. Things like cc-mode.el and jde.el just don't work in 19.28 ;-( So I'm hoping that those more up-to-date that myself could direct me to the most recent resource. tia. jCandlish.
From: cunningham@medicalrounds.com[nospam] (Ken Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: Prelude to Rhapsody bundle Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 07:44:27 -0800 Organization: Ken Cunningham, MD, Inc. Message-ID: <cunningham-ya02408000R0507970744270001@news.direct.ca> References: <5pkmnj$aii@drn.zippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5pkmnj$aii@drn.zippo.com>, Matt Unger matt@oasis.uwec.edu wrote: > I'm interested in buying a copy of the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle. I work in the > computing dept. at the UW and need to explain the direction Apple is headed with > its OS. Our campus will soon decide on dropping support for Apple products > because of all the current OS issues. I am hoping that a demonstration of the > software would help to convince the administrators to stay with the company. > Any help with this matter would be greatly appreciated by myself and 250 other > mac users on campus. Thanks. > > Direct responses to: Matt Unger - matt@oasis.uwec.edu Hello, Matt -- Unfortunately nobody (honest) will be able to sell you a copy. It is under a strict NDA from Apple. You can do the following, however... log on to apple's DEV site at devworld.apple.com download the developer agreement, sign it, and fax it back with $250 on your credit card download their NDA, sign it, and mail it back (no faxing this one). Wait 3 days. You have: OpenStep 4.2 (with a no-distribution liscence) OpenStep Enterprise for Win95/NT Access to all of apple's other dev stuff on the net (MacOS 8 betas, for example) Lots of marketing, analysis, direction materials Plus monthly CD's full of cool stuff. Who knows -- you may even like the Rhapsodic experience so much you can't stop yourself from writing that next great piece of software... Ken -- remove [nospam] from email address to send me email please
From: david minor <dhminor@facstaff.wisc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Openstep/Win95 Dual Boot Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 12:15:05 -0500 Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <33BA8C99.F08@facstaff.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi--I'm a Next newbie, so sorry if this is a stupid question, but: I am supporting a user who has an IBM Thinkpad. We have Openstep 4.1 installed on a @700meg partition and Win95 on a @300meg partition. Openstep runs fine, Win95 runs fine, BUT, we are not getting a good option as far as booting. At the moment if we want to boot to Win95 we have to run fdisk and set that as the active partition; ditto for Openstep. Is there a setting that we need to change/turn on so that we can be prompted on booting for the correct partition? The fdisk option is really a pain. Thanks in advance, david minor.
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MiniSQL, EOF, & Webobjects Date: 5 Jul 1997 21:56:33 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5pmfuh$8a1$3@news2.digex.net> Has anyone got an EOF database adapter that will work with MiniSQL? Is there some place where I can find a version of MiniSQL, and the EOF adapter that will work with OPENSTEP for Mach 4.2/Intel and EOF 2.1 (and webobjects 3.1?). Alternatively...does Oracle make a version (Personal or academic) for OPENSTEP for Mach/Intel? Thanks :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
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From: mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTStep + QMail Date: 05 Jul 1997 22:48:44 -0700 Organization: Darkside Message-ID: <hhsoxsennn.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> I posted about this a long time ago, but never made any further progress. Qmail happily compiles and runs fine under NeXTStep, but I had numerous issues with Mail.app. Is anyone out there using qmail and Mail.app ? My problem was essentially that in Mail.app, you can configure your Spool *DIRECTORY*, but not your spool file. Qmail delivers mail to ~/Mailbox. Mail.app looks for [spooldir]/$USER. The two don't click. Furthermore, I personally split my mail off with procmail into a bunch of different spools, eg $/Mail/spool/spoolname. If anyone has any ideas on this, please let me know =] .mycroft -- [:]===================================================================[:] [\] Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> >>>>>[DataSphere]<<<<< [=] [=] Key fingerprint: DD B1 A7 D9 2D DF A0 F7 23 C2 6B EC 5A AD 01 A9 [\] [:]===================================================================[:]
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HOT TO USE TAR AND GUNZIP ??! Date: 6 Jul 1997 04:23:27 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5pn6jv$sbk$1@news.digifix.com> References: <01bc7f0b$fd444990$00010101@murdock> <cunningham-ya02408000R0507970714080001@news.direct.ca> In-Reply-To: <cunningham-ya02408000R0507970714080001@news.direct.ca> On 07/05/97, Ken Cunningham wrote: >In article <01bc7f0b$fd444990$00010101@murdock>, "Jean-Claude" ><murdocks@mbox.vol.it> wrote: > > >> the was a blablabla_tar.gz... i've decompressed it under winNT UNZIP and > >Mount the DOS disk under NextStep (filenames will be truncated to 8.3). >Copy the file to an OpenStep partition that you can write to. > (login as root if you're not sure what this means). >Open a Terminal window. >Navigate to the directory where your file is. >Do an 'ls'. >Copy the file name with the mouse and alt-C. > >Type> gzcat filename.tar.gz | tar xvf - > >(You can use alt-V to paste filename) > It might be better to use gnutar gnutar -xvozf filename.tar.gz It should handle log paths correctly (or at least better than plain old tar) -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: *.wn -> .rtf ? Date: 6 Jul 1997 02:50:17 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5pn159$pst$2@bashir.peak.org> References: <33BC3E3C.49F5@dartmouth.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: kpp@dartmouth.edu In <33BC3E3C.49F5@dartmouth.edu> kevin parks wrote: > Is there any way to convert all my WriteNow > files to rtf in batch. instead of opening each individual > file and doing a save as. There's a wn2rtf binary at ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/converters/wn2rtf.1.0.N.b.gz You can use it like this: for i in `/bin/ls *.wn` do short=`basename $i .rtf` wn2rtf $i > $short.rtf done exit 0 I am not sure how well it deals with anything which is not text. YMMV/etc/etc TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there? Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 00:36:10 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <33BF4AB8.7CE7@earthlink.net> References: <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <5pgn8n$kgj@crcnis3.unl.edu> <5pj32o$i7f$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy Luoma wrote: > I've had to use netscape a lot lately, and really dislike it and wish OW was > available on my crappy work M$ boxes.... I'm looking foward to it on Rhapsody! STEVE K.
From: dre32d@msn.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: sell/your/photos$$$$$ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 11:16:36 Organization: Miracle Net Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5pod4f$47k$828@roadrunner.miracle.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are a New York based international photo agency representing professional and amateur photographers in search of having their work promoted in order to conduct their profession or hobby minus the time consuming inconvenience of presenting and selling their own work. You do not have to be a professional photographer to sell your photographic work successfully, and as any pro will tell you, quite often throughout history an amateur stumbles on a scene that he or she photographs and ends up with a photo that becomes a classic. Those who publish magazines, books, newspapers, greeting cards, record albums, or just about anyone who works with images in their profession, are in desperate need of fresh material, and are more than willing to review photos submitted by professional photo representatives. Sometimes the photos of amateurs are sought after more so than professionals because of accidental originality and innovative themes. At Photo Phoenix International, we delight in and value the work of people who view photography as a fine art and understand a photo representative's significance in terms of a photographer's career, reputation, and monetary gain. The photos we are seeking are some of the following: ANIMALS, ARCHITECTURE, ART, AUTOMOBILES, BUSINESS, CELEBRITIES, DOCUMENTARY, ENTERTAINMENT, EROTICA/NUDITY, FASHION, FOOD, HEALTH, HISTORY, HOBBIES, OUTDOORS, PEOPLE, POLITICAL, PORTRAITS, STILL LIFES, RELIGIOUS, SCIENCE, SPORTS, TRAVEL . . . Whether your work portrays conservative, experimental, stylish, or innovative themes, your project proposal should be well thought out before submitting to us. For first contact, submit a query letter and "SAMPLES ONLY" of your photos. You must include "2" self addressed, stamped envelopes--one for correspondence, the other for the return of your material should we not be interested. If we think your work is sellable, we will respond as soon as possible. Do not send entire portfolio unless we ask for it. SEND TO: Photo Phoenix International <33-29 58 Street> <Woodside, New York> <11377> <~Phone: 718-651-8145>
From: wtetwuqrtityjr@kjpttypppwtthy.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FREE OFFER-ONE NUMBER! Date: 6 Jul 1997 16:04:26 GMT Organization: Internet MCI Message-ID: <5pofma$4e$3@news.internetmci.com> One-Number service puts you in control of your calls while ensuring that your calls, messages and faxes reach you regardless of your location. One-Number service does this by linking your existing telephones, cell phones, pagers, and fax machines through a single telephone number. YOUR One-Number ACCOUNT COMES STANDARD WITH THESE FEATURES - Consolidates your phone, fax, voice-mail and paging services - Works with your existing products and services, no need to change - Easily lets you designate yourself as available or unavailable - Rings you at up to three numbers simultaneously - Never-busy number accepts multiple incoming calls and faxes - Call Screening (by name) lets you know who is calling - Call Waiting lets you know somebody else is calling - Call Move lets you easily transfer calls among different phones - Call Conferencing allows conferences with other parties - Fax Notification on your pager for incoming fax messages - Redirect calls to Personal Operator (live person) if desired - AND MUCH MORE Virtual Office Communications Company is not a phone company, a long distance carrier, nor do we sell telephone equipment, cellular phones, cellular service, pager or pager service. Instead, we offer service to integrate your existing products, adding value to what you already have by letting your phones, pagers, fax machines and voice-mail systems work together seamlessly. To learn more please visit our web site at: http://www.mynumber.com Please do not reply by e-mail as we are not set up to respond to e-mail requests.
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From: ftr45r@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: writers=seeking=publication Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 15:36:45 Organization: Miracle Net Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5posc8$67e$5668@roadrunner.miracle.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are a New York based international literary agency with two branch offices, one of which is in* Florida. We are seeking new and> previously published authors, so please adhere to the >following-- guidelines.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All fiction: send brief <synopsis, first chapter, and include a self addressed, stamped envelope (SASE). All nonfiction: brief synopsis, first chapter, SASE.>>>>>>>>>>>>> Short-Stories: brief synopsis, 3 pages, SASE.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Poetry: send 3 poems, SASE.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please do not send complete manuscript unless we ask for it. <<Send to: Woodside International Literary Agency>> =33-29 58 Street>>>>>>>>// =Woodside, New York>>>>>>>>// =11377>>>>>>> =Phone (main office): =718--651-8145>>>>>>>//
From: Matthew Reichman <mreichman@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep + QMail Date: 6 Jul 1997 18:26:40 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Message-ID: <5poo10$qht@ecuador.earthlink.net> References: <hhsoxsennn.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: mycroft@datasphere.net In <hhsoxsennn.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> mycroft wrote: > > My problem was essentially that in Mail.app, you can configure your > Spool *DIRECTORY*, but not your spool file. Qmail delivers mail to > ~/Mailbox. Mail.app looks for [spooldir]/$USER. The two don't > click. Furthermore, I personally split my mail off with procmail into > a bunch of different spools, eg $/Mail/spool/spoolname. First, you can specify in Mail.app's preferences under "Expert" where Mail.app will look for mail. Second, this is different from the "[spooldir]/$USER" directory as Mail.app doesn't look there anyway. That's sendmail or qmail or something else that handles that part. And, as well, in Mail.app expert preferences the spool directory is configurable. Qmail should be able to deliver directly to ~/Mailbox and then Mail.app should be able to pick it up from there. I ran Qmail for a little while and that was never a problem. The problem I had with running Qmail with Mail.app (and not with Eloquent) was sending mail out. Mail.app's From headers didn't get processed properly by Qmail and so my mail was not going out. Are you able to have Mail.app send mail through Qmail without problem? Did you have to do any special configurations to achieve that? What version of Qmail are you using? -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <mreichman@earthlink.net> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
Date: 6 Jul 1997 20:16:48 GMT From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Sender: dre32d@msn.com Message-ID: <cancel.5pod4f$47k$828@roadrunner.miracle.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5pod4f$47k$828@roadrunner.miracle.net> Control: cancel <5pod4f$47k$828@roadrunner.miracle.net> WOODSIDE spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: sell/your/photos$$$$$ Total spams this type to date: 7584 Total this spam type for this user: 2330 Total this spam type for this user today: 2330 Originating site: miracle.net Complaint addresses: postmaster@miracle.net abuse@psi.com
From: Marco Cappuccio <nocturno@i-2000.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Dynamic Device Binding Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 16:26:06 -0400 Organization: I-2000 Inc., Internet Services Message-ID: <33BFFF4B.CC68E913@i-2000.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone tell me if the Mach based kernel in NeXT can dynamically bind devices at runtime? The BeOS can boot without loading many devices. The devices are mounted dynamically as they are called for, which makes the system startup VERY quickly. It also reduces the ram footprint. I haven't found much deep technical detail on the NeXT kernel yet so any pointers would be appreciated. Thanks from a NeXT newbie, Marco Cappuccio
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From: jin@ghost.nuri.net (Jin Ko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] CD Player & OmniCD Date: 7 Jul 1997 02:46:48 GMT Organization: HanNuri Internet Service Message-ID: <5pplao$cl6$1@news.nuri.net> I'm using NEXTSTEP3.3 on my ThinkPad560. I can read/write sound files with ES1x88 Audio Driver. I use SlimSCSI as SCSI adapter and it works properly -- when I put Audio CD it recognize it and launches CD-Player. When I play a Audio CD with CD-Player or OmniCD, the CD runs -- I can hear the sound from the jack on the player directly -- but no sound from the sound jack of my laptop. Does anybody know what's the problem and how can I solve it? Thanx a lot. - p.s. When I used the OmniCD instead of CD-Player, the OmniCD thought the SlimSCSI as an ATAPI CD Device. :-( ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mailto:jin@nuri.net Jin Ko http://ghost.nuri.net/ Network Engineer phone:+82-2-531-7924 (fax:+82-2-555-8127) Inet, Inc.
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep + QMail Date: 6 Jul 1997 15:54:36 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5pof3s$r4d$3@bashir.peak.org> References: <hhsoxsennn.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: mycroft@datasphere.net In <hhsoxsennn.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> mycroft wrote: Note: I am not using qmail, so this is all speculation > My problem was essentially that in Mail.app, you can configure your > Spool *DIRECTORY*, but not your spool file. Qmail delivers mail to > ~/Mailbox. Mail.app looks for [spooldir]/$USER. The two don't > click. Furthermore, I personally split my mail off with procmail into > a bunch of different spools, eg $/Mail/spool/spoolname. > > If anyone has any ideas on this, please let me know =] Well, you don't need /usr/spool/mail/$USER anymore, now that appnmail can deliver to an open mailbox. Using procmail and appnmail, I sort ALL my incoming email. If it doesn't match a pattern I have predetermined (rare) it is appended to Active.mbox. So you can use qmail to send your mail to procmail and sort what you want, and then make the last line: :0 |appnmail Active and anything that hits the end of the procmailrc file will go to Active.mbox I think that should do it. TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
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From: erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Porting NeXTStep App to OpenStep Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 23:23:18 -0800 Organization: EdgeMedia Networks Message-ID: <erich-0607972323190001@ppp-207-104-16-69.snrf01.pacbell.net> How easy is it to port a NeXTStep application under 3.3 to OpenStep for Mach on Intel 4.2? Considering I dont have access to a NeXTStep machine, will I be able to pull this off?
From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Porting NeXTStep App to OpenStep Date: 7 Jul 1997 08:19:35 GMT Organization: 21st Century Software, New York City Sender: daver@ts3-2.nj.cnct.com Message-ID: <5pq8qn$rrg$1@darla.visi.com> References: <erich-0607972323190001@ppp-207-104-16-69.snrf01.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Date: 07 Jul 1997 03:19:35 CDT Cc: erich@powerwareintl.com In <erich-0607972323190001@ppp-207-104-16-69.snrf01.pacbell.net> Eric Harley wrote: > How easy is it to port a NeXTStep application under 3.3 to OpenStep for > Mach on Intel 4.2? Depends on the size of the app. It's not very hard, but some things require a little different way of wrapping your brain around things. > Considering I dont have access to a NeXTStep machine, will I be able to > pull this off? Well, in this case, it's probably pretty hard. -- :: d a v i d y o u n g ::::: smtp dwy@ace.net http www.ace.net :: :: independant software and network guy ::::: new york, new york :: :: PGP fingerprint :: 89F5 E75D 4749 3FF4 :: ED92 1B6D 9871 9B93 ::
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From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: xtem in NextStep/OpenStep Date: 7 Jul 1997 09:45:50 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5pqdse$5ga@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi all, Has anyone seen a port of xtem to NextStep/OpenStep? It would be convenient to have such a thing (useful for LaTeX users) under NextStep/OpenStep. If not, will someone port it? Khanh,
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From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CVS and .nib files Date: 7 Jul 1997 07:37:42 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <5pq6c6$t4r$1@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <5p0g4q$dlh@fido.transit.ru> <5p0sdu$nea@iserver.stem.com> <33ba574c.0@epflnews.epfl.ch> <5pfda8$3hg$1@hermes.is.co.za> <5pi8rc$a6g@news-rocq.inria.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit fpottier@pauillac.inria.fr (Francois Pottier) wrote: > In article <5pfda8$3hg$1@hermes.is.co.za>, <gvandyk@icon.co.za> wrote: > >On 07/02/97, Vincent Kohler wrote: > > >The only problem I had with wrappers is that I couldn't find the > >"wrap" and "unwrap" Utilities and I wrote my own. Was this the right > >thing to do or did I miss something somewhere > > My distribution of cvs didn't have wrap and unwrap either (it's a cvs > 1.9 which I found on the RedHat Linux CD). I simply use tar instead > and everything seems to work fine. My colleague who updated our installation to 1.9 said the same. When I installed 1.7, however, I found the two utilities in the sample cvsroot. Since they are not too long I'll include them below. There's another problem with wrappers though: When you use the cvs server, maybe because you cannot export the cvsroot via NFS, they don't work! The directories will be treated like files and all you get is junk. This is a known problem (at least since 1.7) and eventhough some people seem to be working on it I've never heard of a fix. enjoy erik -------8<--------------------------------------------------------------- #! /bin/sh # # wrap - Combine a directory into a single tar package. # #ident "@(#)cvs/examples:$Name: $:$Id: wrap,v 1.1 1996/01/17 14:38:58 erik Exp $" # This script is always called with the current directory set to # where the file to be combined exists. but i may get called with a # path to where cvs first started executing. (this probably should be # fixed in cvs) so strip out all of the directory information. The # first sed expression will only work if the path has a leading / # if it doesn't the one in the if statement will work. DIRNAME=`echo $1 | sed -e "s|/.*/||g"` if [ ! -d $DIRNAME ] ; then DIRNAME=`echo $1 | sed -e "s|.*/||g"` fi # # Now tar up the directory but we now will only get a relative path # even if the user did a cvs commit . at the top. # gnutar --preserve --sparse -cf - $DIRNAME | gzip --no-name --best -c > $2 -------8<--------------------------------------------------------------- -------8<--------------------------------------------------------------- #! /bin/sh # # unwrap - extract the combined package (created with wrap) # #ident "@(#)cvs/examples:$Name: $:$Id: unwrap,v 1.1 1996/01/17 14:38:59 erik Exp $" # move the file to a new name with an extension rm -rf $1.cvswrap mv $1 $1.cvswrap # untar the file if `gzip -t $1.cvswrap > /dev/null 2>&1` then gzcat -d $1.cvswrap | gnutar --preserve --sparse -x -f - else gnutar --preserve --sparse -x -f $1.cvswrap fi # remove the original rm -rf $1.cvswrap -------8<--------------------------------------------------------------- -- Erik Dörnenburg -- OBJECT FACTORY -- Gesellschaft für Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH -- http://www.object-factory.com/~erik
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From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Dynamic Device Binding Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:33:59 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <cnkDtLO00iWR02OTA0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <33BFFF4B.CC68E913@i-2000.com> In-Reply-To: <33BFFF4B.CC68E913@i-2000.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 6-Jul-97 Dynamic Device Binding by Marco Cappuccio@i-2000.c > Can anyone tell me if the Mach based kernel in NeXT can dynamically bind > devices at runtime? [ ... ] The Mach kernel supports dynamicly loading kernel modules, yes. Things like foreign filesystems and sound/MIDI support are the most common examples where this is the case on black hardware; NEXTSTEP for the Intel world obviously has to load and configure the various drivers in the boot process. > I haven't found much deep technical detail on the NeXT kernel yet so any > pointers would be appreciated. Look at /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/OperatingSystem/Part2_WritingLKSs/_ApA _Utilities/Utilities.rtf. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Blake LeBaron <blake@ai.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: WYSIWYG HTML Editor Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 10:28:15 -0700 Organization: University of Wisconsin Message-ID: <33C1272F.5E42@ai.mit.edu> References: <33AAC1D0.9DBE9FDD@novell.com> <19970703164001.MAA27211@ladder02.news.aol.com> <5pj6l7$nrc$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam wrote: > > On 07/03/97, WillAdams wrote: > >I'd be interested in learning more about WebPages--is it commercial? > >shareware? freeware? > > Pages is history for quite a while now. After Pages Inc went out of > business, the Pages code was bought by IT Solutions who supported it > for a short while. That too ended long ago. This is all part of > the past now. > > The program had a lot of promise as an object-oriented publishing .app, > but neither Pages itself nor the HTML export filters for it were ever > really "finished". There were quirks and bugs that needed work to make > the .app competitive in 1994/5. Even if it was still available today, > it couldn't compete with the Web development tools available on "that > other platform" today. > > Perhaps under Rhapsody we'll get some good Web tools. I also used Webpages a long time ago, and liked it. It was able to handle a lot of format conversions very easily. My only complaint was that it generated pretty big files, but I have much more disk space now. I would look at it again if it ever reappears, but it sounds like that is unlikely. Blake LeBaron
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] CD Player & OmniCD Date: 7 Jul 1997 15:19:33 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5pr1e5$nvo$1@news.xmission.com> References: <5pplao$cl6$1@news.nuri.net> jin@ghost.nuri.net (Jin Ko) wrote: > I'm using NEXTSTEP3.3 on my ThinkPad560. > I can read/write sound files with ES1x88 Audio Driver. > I use SlimSCSI as SCSI adapter and it works properly -- when > I put Audio CD it recognize it and launches CD-Player. > > When I play a Audio CD with CD-Player or OmniCD, the CD runs > -- I can hear the sound from the jack on the player directly -- > but no sound from the sound jack of my laptop. > > Does anybody know what's the problem and how can I solve it? What you are experiencing is probably a known bug in the ATAPI support; I assume your CD is an ATAPI because mine is too, and has the same problem. Apparently, there's isn't much of a standard as to the commands to send to an ATAPI drive to set the volume. Since the earphone jack on the front of the drive is controlled by the thumbwheel, you can use that to get sound, but the internal connection to the sound card is controlled by software, which the OPENSTEP driver cannot control. Gotta love all those "standards" supported by PC hardware vendors...NOT. Let's hope that Apple now has enough engineers that they can fix the driver and support all the volume-control schemes out there. To date, they haven't had the resources to generate the ad-hoc ssolution that will be required to make it work... -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
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From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] CD Player & OmniCD Date: 7 Jul 1997 06:32:11 GMT Organization: "private site" Message-ID: <5pq2hb$gu@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> References: <5pplao$cl6$1@news.nuri.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (FinalNews for NeXTstep; Version 0.30 / Jul 2, 1997) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jin Ko wrote in <5pplao$cl6$1@news.nuri.net> on 1997-07-07 04:46:48 +0200: > When I play a Audio CD with CD-Player or OmniCD, the CD runs > -- I can hear the sound from the jack on the player directly -- > but no sound from the sound jack of my laptop. > > Does anybody know what's the problem and how can I solve it? As far as I know you have to connect your CD-ROM directly to your soundcard. But I think you better don't play audio CDs on Intel hardware. I get system panics on a regular basis when I do so. --- _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome
From: "Greg Meece" <gregm@pcdocs.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: AppleTalk support in OS 4.x? Date: 1 Jul 1997 13:56:44 GMT Organization: PC DOCS, Inc. Message-ID: <01bc8626$443da0a0$e91c2cc7@Die_Bill_Gates.pcdocs.com> I have the "Prelude to Rhapsody" release (AKA 4.2) for Intel. The SysAdmin manual says there's support for AppleTalk (and even details configuring it), but I can't find a driver or install package anywhere on the CD or on my HD after the install. Does NeXT still support this? Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Greg Meece SQA Engineer PC DOCS, Inc. 124 Marriott Drive Tallahassee, FL 32301
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From: mmalcolm crawford <Malcolm_Crawford@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Gamma values in Rhapsody? Date: 7 Jul 1997 10:39:01 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5pqh05$sof$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <33A9A654.9E76FD2A@excell.com> In-Reply-To: <33A9A654.9E76FD2A@excell.com> On 06/19/97, Dayne Miller wrote: >So, does anyone know (guesses don't count...) whether Rhapsody will use >NEXTSTEP's gamma values, or those of the current MacOS? I can see some >problems with cross-platform images if NEXTSTEP's is used, but something >tells me it's likely -- and not being a graphic artist, i couldn't tell >you which is inherently better (or if such a term even applies). > Well, I might argue that NEXTSTEP's model is better :-) It would be useful to know which values will be used -- I was hoping someone from AppLE might have replied by now... The "workaround" I use at the moment is simply to do everything in NEXTSTEP and themn when I want to put somethig on the Web to do a gamma conversion... cf http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm/NEXTSTEP/WWW/ >If only everyone would use PNG all the time... > <sigh> Yes... Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: "Peter N. Hein" <phein@wright.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to get Lighthouse Design software license numbers? Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 16:06:07 -0400 Organization: Wright State University - Network Services Message-ID: <33C14C2F.271F@wright.edu> References: <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another user in the same boat! I really would like to get licsenes for their products (Lighthouse AcademicCD). Would anyone like to give theirs up or know where I can get one for myself? TIA Peter Hein Wright State University - Network Services phein@gromit.wright.edu (NeXT mail friendly)
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From: rraman@osf1.gmu.edu (RAVISHANKAR RAMANATHAN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Setting up ppp Date: 7 Jul 1997 22:12:32 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <5prpkg$v0t@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all: I am trying to setup a ppp connection from home and I get the following error message: Jul 7 18:03:01 localhost pppd[429]: ioctl: TIOCMBIS/BIC: Inappropriate ioctl for device I am using the following: pppd version 2.2 patch level 0beta3 The ppp-faq says two possible problems: using cua instead of cufa (I used IComm to connect using cufa,) or the LKS and user level daemon (pppd) not being the same version. I would like to solve this problem so I can use ppp connection from home. My school supports tia (the internet adaptor) ppp solution. Could this be a problem? The modem is a Global Village Teleport 33.6 Speakerphone edition. Thanks in advance Ravi
From: Michael Giddings Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris Date: 7 Jul 1997 22:17:33 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Distribution: world Message-ID: <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> Cc: lparkyn@prosoft.com In <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> Lyle Parkyn wrote: > I am contemplateing installing OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris 2.5.1 on a Sparc 5. I too am contemplating this. We have a number of people interested in seeing our OpenStep based software on Solaris. Any advice or info related to experiences with OS/Solaris would be appreciated. Also, has anyone heard anything recently about the future of OS/Solaris? In the field I'm in, Sun boxes are used extensively, so it would be nice to have ongoing support for OpenStep/Solaris. Thanks for any information. -- Michael Giddings, Ph.D. (anti-spam: please change "at" to @ in an address below to respond) giddings at whitewater.chem.wisc.edu giddings at barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://smithlab.chem.wisc.edu/PersonalPages/giddings/giddings.html http://www.barbarian.com
From: info@scribex.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to get Lighthouse Design software license numbers? Date: 8 Jul 1997 00:25:18 GMT Organization: VTL Message-ID: <5ps1de$33p$1@wagner.videotron.net> References: <5ntf3g$t10@miwok.nbn.com> <33C14C2F.271F@wright.edu> In-Reply-To: <33C14C2F.271F@wright.edu> =======Lighthouse Academic bundle======= Contact sales@scribex.com ========================================= On 07/07/97, "Peter N. Hein" wrote: > Another user in the same boat! > > I really would like to get licsenes for their products (Lighthouse > AcademicCD). Would anyone like to give theirs up or know where I can get > one for myself? > > TIA > > Peter Hein > Wright State University - Network Services > phein@gromit.wright.edu (NeXT mail friendly) >
From: Ken W <hazmat@shore.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep/Win95 Dual Boot Date: 8 Jul 1997 02:27:09 GMT Organization: Shore.Net; a service of Eco Software, Inc. (info@shore.net) Message-ID: <5ps8ht$l98@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <33BA8C99.F08@facstaff.wisc.edu> david minor <dhminor@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote: dm> Hi--I'm a Next newbie, so sorry if this is a stupid question, but: dm> I am supporting a user who has an IBM Thinkpad. We have Openstep 4.1 dm> installed on a @700meg partition and Win95 on a @300meg partition. dm> Openstep runs fine, Win95 runs fine, BUT, we are not getting a good dm> option as far as booting. At the moment if we want to boot to Win95 we dm> have to run fdisk and set that as the active partition; ditto for dm> Openstep. dm> Is there a setting that we need to change/turn on so that we can be dm> prompted on booting for the correct partition? The fdisk option is dm> really a pain. Hi, David. I haven't checked out NeXT, but I would highly suggest checking out System Commander. I am running it with DOS and Win95 right now, and it's great. To install an OS, especially one as preditory as Win95, SC will actually hide all other OSs from it for installation. SC will work with any Intel compatible OS. -Ken -- hazmat@shore.net panic@io.com http://www.shore.net/~hazmat
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb 2.6b ? Date: 8 Jul 1997 10:28:07 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com> Hi, I realized that OmniWeb 2.6b is out... but is it worth upgrading ? What did change...there is currently no info on Omnis web pages which usually show the release notes. Any idea ? Aloha Tomi
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Icongrabber ? Date: 8 Jul 1997 10:58:50 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5pt6ha$dt3$1@concorde.ctp.com> Hi, does someone out there have a copy of "IconGrabber.app" ? I have one at home...but forgot to take it over here. It is a tny old NeXTSTEP app which just opens a window (48x48) where you can drop any file...and get the file icon which you then can copy/paste. Really handy...really useful...but not on any archive at searched. :-( Aloha Tomi P.S. I gues it once was on those Big Green CDs or that like. The apps icon was an app icon with the hand like it used in "Grab.app".
From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b ? Date: 8 Jul 1997 12:10:01 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Message-ID: <5ptamp$dko@news.tamu.edu> References: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Jul 1997 12:10:01 GMT > Hi, > > I realized that OmniWeb 2.6b is out... but is it worth upgrading ? What did > change...there is currently no info on Omnis web pages which usually show the > release notes. > > Any idea ? > > Aloha > Tomi Where did you find OmniWeb 2.6b? HP
From: tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: vi-like editor Date: 8 Jul 1997 12:48:10 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5ptcua$fsh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Hi! I'm a SPARC vi user who has recently moved to NEXTSTEP 3.0 There are many handy features of vi which are not supported in Edit, TeXEdit &c. such as jumping words, jumping to the end of a line with keystrokes only. I do not use emacs and I would like to know if there are any editors for NeXT which are vi-like but which have a point-and-click feel also? -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 for zero entropy.
From: "H. Blakely Williford" <blakew@fuller.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Moveing lotus improv files from black h/w to lotus wk# format. Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 08:42:14 -0500 Organization: The Fuller Brush Company Message-ID: <33C243B6.230362C6@fuller.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello World! We have several NeXT machines with the black hardware. The users love these machines; the problem is these machines are wareing out. We have lots of lotus improv spread sheets on these NeXT machines. Is there a untility out there that will take these .imp files and convert them to the now common lotus .wk(1-4) format? Thank you for your time. -- H. Blakely Williford | Men never do evil so completely and Systems Administrator/Programmer | cheerfully as when they do it from The Fuller Brush Company | religious conviction. -- Pascal
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: vi-like editor Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 10:56:10 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <wnkZI_K00iWW02wt40@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5ptcua$fsh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <5ptcua$fsh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 8-Jul-97 vi-like editor by tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk > I'm a SPARC vi user who has recently moved to NEXTSTEP 3.0 > There are many handy features of vi which are not supported > in Edit, TeXEdit &c. such as jumping words, jumping to the > end of a line with keystrokes only. Alt-f skips words forward. Ctl-e jumps to end-of-line. Almost all of the standard emacs bindings work fine when the "Emacs keybindings" preferences option is enabled. > I do not use emacs and I would like to know if there are any editors for > NeXT which are vi-like but which have a point-and-click feel also? First, there is /usr/ucb/vi. That's as vi-like as it comes. Secondly, if you want a vi-like editor which interacts well with the mouse, your best bet is probably to get the Emacs-for-NEXTSTEP package on the standard NeXT FTP archives, and do a 'Meta-x vip-mode'. (Ctl-h for help; try Ctl-h m for the mode-specific bindings and/or check out Ctl-h i for the info pages.) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help with OpenStep 4.2 installation for Intel Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 07:24:59 -0800 Organization: EdgeMedia Networks Message-ID: <erich-0807970724590001@ppp-207-104-16-1.snrf01.pacbell.net> Hello, I just received my copy of OpenStep 4.2 and am puzzled at what to do next (No pun intendead). Everything installs fine upto the actual configuration of the system. After the system installs the essential files, and the computer reboots, a panel comes up saying (with a progress bar) that it is configuring drivers. This is as far as the installation gets. From here on out, the progress bar doesnt move and nothing happens on the computer. I tried checking whether my hardware was setup contrary to what NeXT wanted, wasn't wrong at all. I have an IDE harddisk and an IDE CD-ROM. I dont think that these are the problems though. Remember everything gets installed, its just booting up that sucks. -Thanks Alot! Eric Harley erich@powerwareintl.com
From: Jim.Vancheri@mci.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep/Win95 Dual Boot Date: 8 Jul 1997 14:13:27 GMT Organization: MCI Telecommunications Colorado Springs, CO Message-ID: <5pthu7$fm5@ss2.cs.mci.com> References: <33BA8C99.F08@facstaff.wisc.edu> <5ps8ht$l98@fridge-nf0.shore.net> Cc: hazmat@shore.net In <5ps8ht$l98@fridge-nf0.shore.net> Ken W wrote: > david minor <dhminor@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote: > dm> Hi--I'm a Next newbie, so sorry if this is a stupid question, but: > > dm> I am supporting a user who has an IBM Thinkpad. We have Openstep 4.1 > dm> installed on a @700meg partition and Win95 on a @300meg partition. > dm> Openstep runs fine, Win95 runs fine, BUT, we are not getting a good > dm> option as far as booting. At the moment if we want to boot to Win95 we > dm> have to run fdisk and set that as the active partition; ditto for > dm> Openstep. > > dm> Is there a setting that we need to change/turn on so that we can be > dm> prompted on booting for the correct partition? The fdisk option is > dm> really a pain. > David, Boot the machine in OpenStep, log in as root and then in a terminal window type the following command: disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rsd0a (or whatever your boot device is) When you reboot you will be prompted to launch either OpenStep or DOS. JV
From: bozack@blkbox.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: application icon Date: 8 Jul 1997 16:50:29 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Message-ID: <5ptr4l$q2b@news.blkbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-User: bjQomIKz is there a way to change the icon of an application (and hopefully even the files associated with that application) if you don't have the source? i'd like to change the icon MMP uses and that of the files that are associated with it (just *.mp3 for now). thanks, dan
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] CD Player & OmniCD Date: 8 Jul 1997 18:50:17 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5pu259$7je@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5pq2hb$gu@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> In article <5pq2hb$gu@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) writes: > Jin Ko wrote in <5pplao$cl6$1@news.nuri.net> on 1997-07-07 04:46:48 +0200: > > When I play a Audio CD with CD-Player or OmniCD, the CD runs > > -- I can hear the sound from the jack on the player directly -- > > but no sound from the sound jack of my laptop. > As far as I know you have to connect your CD-ROM directly to your > soundcard. Works for most SCSI systems. EIDE/ATAPI doesn't work, as far as I know. > But I think you better don't play audio CDs on Intel hardware. I > get system panics on a regular basis when I do so. Never had any problems here, for either blank OR white hardware. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: franc@xenicos.fdn.fr (Francois BIENTZ) Subject: Differents version of EOF 2.0 on Mach 4.1/Intel ORACLE 7 Message-ID: <1997Jul7.204025.296@xenicos.fdn.fr> Keywords: EOF Oracle license violation Sender: franc@xenicos.fdn.fr Organization: Individual. Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 20:40:25 GMT I tried to install the Enterprise Objects Examples. On the Oracle 7.3 server I created the users Movies and Rentals. Configuring the Example Models works.But the populating the databases with the install_database tools stops : License violation ...Multiple Connections ... Are there differents EOF 2.0 licenses for MachOS 4.1/Intel ??
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Prolog for NeXTStation? Date: 8 Jul 1997 20:26:27 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <5pu7pj$ich$1@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> References: <5p60ci$30k$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw> Cc: u8222015@cc.nctu.edu.tw In <5p60ci$30k$2@news2.nctu.edu.tw> Spencer Yu wrote: > Hi I am looking for a Prolog interpreter for my NeXTStaion...where > can I find a free one? I would prefer one with GUI but anything will do > thanx! > XSB Prolog is freely available and runs on NeXT, a number of Unix platforms, as well as on DOS/Windows systems. Check out: http://www.cs.sunysb.edu/~sbprolog or send mail to xsb-contact@cs.sunysb.edu. -Richard Larson
From: Wilfried Beeck <wbeeck@intershop.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace,intershop.internal.misc Subject: WTB: Lotus Improv 2.0 for Windows Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 20:31:56 +0200 Organization: Intershop Communications GmbH Message-ID: <33C2879C.1647081@intershop.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We're looking for english, german and french versions of Lotus Improv 2.0 for Windows (not for NEXTSTEP). Unfortunately Lotus is not selling the product anymore, but maybe someone still has a package that he/she wants to sell. Please contact our local offices: Intershop Communications USA 1-415-373-1530, Arne Dreslar Intershop Communications France +33.1.463.40.523, Sven Lung Intershop Communications Germany +49-40-38023-0, Wilfried Beeck or mail to me at wbeeck@intershop.de Thanks Wilfried Beeck Intershop Communications GmbH
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-Recordable writing software for NEXTSTEP? Date: 8 Jul 1997 19:09:03 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <5pu38f$h74$1@tribune.mayo.edu> Anyone know of a software package that allows burning of CDs under NEXTSTEP? I'd like to make a durable archival backup of some data on NEXTSTEP partitions on a stand alone machine. Thanks -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
From: marcel@system.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Icongrabber ? Date: 8 Jul 1997 21:56:49 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5pud31$94u$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <5pt6ha$dt3$1@concorde.ctp.com> In article <5pt6ha$dt3$1@concorde.ctp.com> tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) writes: [app that grabs file icons] That was a good cue, so I re-created the app under OpenStep/Mach 4.2. I'll try to get it on the archies ASAP. Marcel
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ? Date: 8 Jul 1997 23:47:38 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5pujiq$377$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com> tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) wrote: > Hi, > > I realized that OmniWeb 2.6b is out... but is it worth upgrading ? What did > change...there is currently no info on Omnis web pages which usually show the > release notes. > > Any idea ? OmniWeb 2.6b2 is an early beta that wasn't actually intended for public release. We put it on our ftp site for testing by a specific client - apparently someone grabbed it from there and posted it to at least one of the archive sites. Feel free to use it, but keep in mind that we don't consider it a releasable beta yet and we will not be supporting it. We will be releasing a version intended for public testing in the very near future. To answer your question about what's new: the major difference is that tables with lots of simple unformatted text cells are faster. Not breathtakingly so, but noticeably so. (At this point, however, these fast table cells lack features such as find, selection, copy/past, etc. - these features are planned for a future beta.) When the official beta is released, I strongly encourage you to test it and provide your feedback as 2.6 is anticipated to be the last version for NEXTSTEP - the next version will be 3.0, which will be for Rhapsody (and possibly some of the pre-Rhapsody versions of OPENSTEP). -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: application icon Date: 8 Jul 1997 23:11:13 GMT Organization: The PEAK ftp site for OpenStep and NEXTSTEP Message-ID: <5puheh$8b9$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5ptr4l$q2b@news.blkbox.com> bozack@blkbox.com wrote: >is there a way to change the icon of an application (and hopefully even the >files associated with that application) if you don't have the source? > >i'd like to change the icon MMP uses and that of the files that are >associated with it (just *.mp3 for now). Sure, if you have the dev tools and segedit. Checkout SegHoarker.app ... or if you want, I've got a script to do this. Usually it is a two step process, extract the old, replace it with a new. TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: architectura@mindspring.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: networking problems: Mac<->SGI<->NeXT 68k Date: 9 Jul 1997 02:21:35 GMT Organization: Architectura Message-ID: <architectura-0807972122250001@user-2k7i3bn.dialup.mindspring.com> We recently obtained a Color Turbo NextStation from Deepspace and hope to use it as a file and mail server and PostScript editor. I found a section (Chapter 11 of the System Administrator's Manual: Mixed Networks) in the on-line documentation (NS 3.3 was pre-installed and appears to be slightly incomplete) which explains that AppleTalk connectivity is a simple matter of activating a single check box beneath an apple icon in the preferences app. Problem #1: there is no apple icon in my preferences app. Does this mean that something was not installed, or merely that I've not set the computer up correctly? Connecting NeXT black hardware to UNIX machines should, according to the documentation, be similarly straightforward. Neither the NeXT nor the SGI will acknowledge the physical existence of a 10BaseT network connection. Problem #2: The machines are all physically connected through a DaynaStar 10BaseT hub, but the Macs are the only ones talking. I would appreciate any suggestions!
From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rob Blessin? Blackhole, Inc? Where are you? Date: 9 Jul 1997 01:34:30 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5pupr6$bdl@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <5pf6ib$qrv@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <5pf6ib$qrv@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Hello Vicky and NeXT/Apple Community: Black Hole , Incorporated is located at http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ ... I'm currently importing these from Europe and selling them for $319 and Shipping, but NACSCORP is sending out the academic authorization packet and I may be able to qualify to resell Openstep Academic to everyone without having to go through the import process, thank you P&L Systems for helping with the importing process... I can use everybodys support on this one ... my cost of goods sold after importing the bundles is about $307 so I'm obviously not in it for the money, especially when you consider the credit card companies charge 2.5% so thats around $315. You can help by dropping me an email saying that you support Black Hole, Incorporated's endeavor and effort to qualify and sell academic products to academic customers, I'll include the responses in my report to the NACSCORP and Apple review committee's, I've been doing this 4 + years and look forward to continue doing it for the good of the community...I show a profit and keep the lights turned on of course by selling into the commercial market, 3rd party applications and hardware and can only hope that Openstep/Rhapsody will excel after you all graduate and promote it with in your future employment endeavors and opportunities. I'm also looking to start recruiting for companies seeking qualified Openstep candidates! Thanks to all of the professors that continue to support the best software on the planet! Appreciate your business and have a great day! Please let me know how your using Openstep and if you have a need for anything else NeXT related! Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 http://www.blackholeinc.com/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993. On 07/02/97 in the group comp.sys.next.software you wrote: >I e-mailed Rob Blessin (Blackhole, Inc.) to purchase OpenStep 4.2 but >my message bounced back. I can try purchase through the bookstore, >but that usually takes forever, at least in our college. Any other >suggestions? > >Thanks. >Vicki Bragin >-- >********************************************************** > Victoria M. Bragin E-mail: vbragin@ix.netcom.com > Associate Professor of Chemistry, Physical Sciences Division > Pasadena City College, 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA > Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 >********************************************************** > > -- Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 http://www.blackholeinc.com/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993.
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b ? Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 14:05:06 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970708135716.2283B-100000@peace> References: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Thomas Engel <tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> In-Reply-To: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com> On 8 Jul 1997, Thomas Engel wrote: > I realized that OmniWeb 2.6b is out... but is it worth upgrading ? What did > change...there is currently no info on Omnis web pages which usually show the > release notes. 2._6_ is out? I must have missed that. Where did you see it? TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: cunningham@medicalrounds.com[nospam] (Ken Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: AppleTalk support in OS 4.x? Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 22:42:13 -0800 Organization: Ken Cunningham, MD, Inc. Message-ID: <cunningham-ya02408000R0807972242130001@news.direct.ca> References: <01bc8626$443da0a0$e91c2cc7@Die_Bill_Gates.pcdocs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <01bc8626$443da0a0$e91c2cc7@Die_Bill_Gates.pcdocs.com>, "Greg Meece" <gregm@pcdocs.com> wrote: > I have the "Prelude to Rhapsody" release (AKA 4.2) for Intel. The SysAdmin > manual says there's support for AppleTalk (and even details configuring > it), but I can't find a driver or install package anywhere on the CD or on > my HD after the install. Does NeXT still support this? > Download a package called "Caper v8" from any Next FTP site. It has all the Appletalk functionality in it, is free, and works like a hot tamale! You can find Next FTP sites at www.omnigroup.com. Ken -- remove [nospam] from email address to send me email please
From: jin@ghost.nuri.net (Jin Ko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] What's the best X server in Step? Date: 9 Jul 1997 06:33:18 GMT Organization: HanNuri Internet Service Message-ID: <5pvbbe$7ku$1@news.nuri.net> What's the best X server for NEXTSTEP? I tried Xnext but I'm not so satisfied with it for it's slower than I expected. Please recommend me any cool X server better(faster :-) ) than Xnext even if comercial. Thanx. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- mailto:jin@nuri.net (NeXTMail OK) Jin Ko http://ghost.nuri.net/ Network Engineer phone:+82-2-531-7924 (fax:+82-2-555-8127) Inet, Inc.
From: "M. Andrew Minkin" <archaeusds@rocketmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Cross-Platform Floppy Formatting Utilty Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 01:29:39 +0000 Organization: Archaeus Design Systems Message-ID: <33C2E97C.270D@rocketmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the 266_EIDE.pkg from NeXT and would like to put it on a floppy that the Mach kernel installation will read, but I only have a Power Mac 6100/60 and a P133 with 24MB running Win95 ( I tried installing OpenStep Enterprise but I couldn't run anything). Any suggestions?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <ED0rvC.ILA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 21:33:12 GMT References: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu>, <Michael Giddings> wrote: >I too am contemplating this. We have a number of people interested in seeing >our OpenStep based software on Solaris. Any advice or info related to >experiences with OS/Solaris would be appreciated. > I played with it briefly on a Sparc 10 running Solaris 2.4. It was *painful* since the machine had only 32MB RAM. I intend to try it on our Ultra 1 when I get the chance. Apart from the speed and the fact that the fonts were a little ugly it was fairly nice. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Kris Jacobs<jtsnake@serv01.net-link.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Jake's Home Brew Subject: Try Me! Message-ID: <33c1fb16.0@nntp.kalnet.net> Date: 8 Jul 97 08:32:22 GMT Hello net world are you a beer drinker or maybe a home brewer than this web page is for you! My web page is dedicated to home brewing and beer on the net! If this interests you than go to Jake's Home (brew) Page it is located at http://www.net-link.net/~jtsnake/ I am looking forward to hearing from you soon!!! Kris Jacobs Jake's Home (brew) Page http://www.net-link.net/~jtsnake/ E-Mail To: jtsnake@net-link.net jtsnake@serv01.net-link.net mpinc@SERV01.NET-LINK.NET
From: tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: newsreaders Date: 9 Jul 1997 12:12:51 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5pvv83$63v@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I am an ex 'tin' user and am now on 'Alexandra. The layout of 'Alexandra' is fine except for the fact that it doesn't appear to nest threads but lists them in a seemingly random order. So part of a thread could end up several articles down. Also, the find command doesn't work and so finding authors/articles is very difficult. I may be missing the obvious. I would use Help but it stops short of anything useful. Thanks, -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 for zero entropy.
From: liuyi@dragon-dance.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: newsreaders Date: 9 Jul 1997 13:37:11 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Message-ID: <D23D1128591C7B64.E7ACCC6F33231DCC.ACBE36051C239B7F@library-proxy.airnews.net> References: <5pvv83$63v@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net On 9 Jul 1997 12:12:51 GMT, tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> wrote: > I am an ex 'tin' user and am now on 'Alexandra. The layout of 'Alexandra' > is fine except for the fact that it doesn't appear to nest threads but > lists them in a seemingly random order. So part of a thread could end up > several articles down. Alexandra is not a threaded newsreader. If you liked 'tin', you might want to try 'slrn'. An ex 'trn' user, I don't miss 'trn' at all ever since I switched to 'slrn', which is a fast and threaded reader that comes with its own extension language, for the fanatics. The lastest version compiles out of the box on NS3.3/OS4.1, and can be found at ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/slrn. You'd have to compile slang first. Just follow the instructions in the README. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@dragon-dance.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: "H. Blakely Williford" <blakew@fuller.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Update: Moveing lotus improv files from black h/w to lotus wk# format. Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 07:47:03 -0500 Organization: The Fuller Brush Company Message-ID: <33C38847.435940BD@fuller.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The improv SaveAS option produces a file called <filename>.wk4.imp This file is unreadable from lotus 1-2-3. Lotus Improv Release 1.0 - x108_0 Jan 23, 1991 thank you again for your time. -- H. Blakely Williford | Men never do evil so completely and Systems Administrator/Programmer | cheerfully as when they do it from The Fuller Brush Company | religious conviction. -- Pascal
From: Mario Illgen <Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: newsreaders Date: 9 Jul 1997 13:48:44 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <5q04rs$rc$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <5pvv83$63v@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote: >I am an ex 'tin' user and am now on 'Alexandra. The layout of 'Alexandra' >is fine except for the fact that it doesn't appear to nest threads but >lists them in a seemingly random order. So part of a thread could end up >several articles down. > A workaround is to sort the articles by subject (Article->Sort->By Subject) Ciao, Mario -- Mario Illgen, TU Chemnitz-Zwickau "I laughed in the mirror for the first time in a year..."
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there? Date: 9 Jul 1997 17:11:02 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <5q0gn6$gu1$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <5pgn8n$kgj@crcnis3.unl.edu> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: > In article <5pgeft$pp2$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> > Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com writes: > > godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote: > > Too bad my personal web pages look like crap under OmniWeb (but good > > under Netscape) > > Too bad your personal web pages use bad html then. (-; (I didn't really > see anything that looked like "crap" with OmniwWeb at the address in your > sig -- http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck ) > Really, in my experience, pages that look different in NS (and MSIE) than > OmniWeb usually mean you've used poor html somewhere. > > > and that OmniWeb is pretty slow... > > It's a bit slower, but that's attributable to the fact that it renders > tables slowly. Other than that, it's not bad, speedwise. Actually it's this web page: www.public.usit.net/echuck And it doesn't look as bad in OmniWeb 2.5 as it did in whatever previous version I had been using. As far as "bad html" goes I always end up using "bad html" in order to get my page "right". i.e., standard html just isn't enough. Since most people use Netscape anyway I tailor my pages for that. Maybe that's not "technically right", but it's certainly what I find practical. There must be something special about my config then because OmniWeb runs quite a bit slower than Netscape 3.01. In any case, there are just too many pages that look better under Netscape than under OmniWeb. www.hotbot.com and www.finalbell.com (which causes OmniWeb to display HTML source) are two of them. As I told the author of OmniWeb, we need something that replaces HTML that's more along the lines of a desktop publishing language where "what you want is what you get". This idea of "browser knows best how to display the info" just doesn't work in practice. Tags like <font> and <body bgcolor=> etc. are just evidence of that. -Chuck -- Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck --------------------------------------------------------------------- chuck_esterbrook@orcacomputer.com / vo 540 231-3475 / fx 540 231-3480 Orca Computer, Inc. / 1800 Kraft Dr. Suite 111 / Blacksburg, VA 24060
From: Steve Dekorte <dekorte@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris Date: 9 Jul 1997 17:53:40 GMT Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net> References: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu> <ED0rvC.ILA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> > In article <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu>, <Michael Giddings> wrote: > >our OpenStep based software on Solaris. Any advice or info related to > >experiences with OS/Solaris would be appreciated. Sun has not done such a great job with OpenStep on Solaris. The last time I saw it, porting an OpenStep Mach app to OpenStep Solaris was not trivial and simultaniously maintaining Solaris and non-Solaris versions looked painfull. If you want to run custom OpenStep GUI apps, I'd recommend running OpenStep Mach for Sparc on those desktop Sun machines. If you want to run custom servers written with Objective-C and the OpenStep Foundation libs, EOF, WebObjects, or DO, then just install NeXT PDO for Sparc on your Solaris boxes and you should be able to recompile your servers without problems. -- Steve Dekorte - OpenStep consultant - San Francisco
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: newsreaders Date: 9 Jul 1997 18:01:28 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5q0jlo$67h$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <5pvv83$63v@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <D23D1128591C7B64.E7ACCC6F33231DCC.ACBE36051C239B7F@library-proxy.airnews.net> In-Reply-To: <D23D1128591C7B64.E7ACCC6F33231DCC.ACBE36051C239B7F@library-proxy.airnews.net> On 07/08/97, Yi Liu wrote: >On 9 Jul 1997 12:12:51 GMT, tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> wrote: > > I am an ex 'tin' user and am now on 'Alexandra. The layout of 'Alexandra' > > is fine except for the fact that it doesn't appear to nest threads but > > lists them in a seemingly random order. So part of a thread could end up > > several articles down. > >Alexandra is not a threaded newsreader. NewsFlash from WolfWare is a threaded newsreader (displays articles "nested" under the article they are replying too) with a graphical user interface. You can download a free evaluation copy and see screen-shots of the threading at www.wolfware.com. - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
From: marcel@system.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there? Date: 9 Jul 1997 18:34:32 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5q0ljo$du1$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <5q0gn6$gu1$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> In article <5q0gn6$gu1$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com writes: [...] > www.finalbell.com (which causes OmniWeb to display HTML source) The part that OmniWeb displays as source is not even HTML! It just looks a little like it... > This idea of "browser knows best how to display the > info" just doesn't work in practice. It works great for what it was intended: display of INFORMATION. Of course, the Web today has little or nothing to do with that original intent. Sigh. Marcel
From: thompson@filoli.com (Peter Thompson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD-Recordable writing software for NEXTSTEP? Date: 9 Jul 1997 18:37:03 GMT Organization: Relax, don't worry! Have a homebrew! Message-ID: <5q0lof$ark$1@news.filoli.com> References: <5pu38f$h74$1@tribune.mayo.edu> In-Reply-To: <5pu38f$h74$1@tribune.mayo.edu> On 07/08/97, Ray Ghanbari wrote: > > >Anyone know of a software package that allows burning of CDs under >NEXTSTEP? I'd like to make a durable archival backup of some data on >NEXTSTEP partitions on a stand alone machine. Yes, try CDDesigner - it can be found on the peak or peanuts ftp sites, or at the home site of the developers: http://ip-service.com/Gehle I bought the personal version, and have had no trouble with it at all. It handles both data and audio quite nicely. Peter -- ************************************************************************** Peter Thompson ---- thompson@filoli.com ---- Filoli Information Systems. **************************************************************************
From: info@scribex.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: newsreaders Date: 9 Jul 1997 18:34:51 GMT Organization: VTL Message-ID: <5q0lkb$ktg$1@wagner.videotron.net> References: <5pvv83$63v@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <5pvv83$63v@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Perhaps you should consider using NewsFlash. It's only US$45, and very much worth its small price. Check it out at http://www.scribex.com -Andre ============================================= On 07/09/97, tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk wrote: > I am an ex 'tin' user and am now on 'Alexandra. The layout of 'Alexandra' > is fine except for the fact that it doesn't appear to nest threads but > lists them in a seemingly random order. So part of a thread could end up > several articles down. > > Also, the find command doesn't work and so finding authors/articles is very > difficult. > > I may be missing the obvious. I would use Help but it stops short of > anything useful. > > Thanks, > -- > thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; > tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; > http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 for zero entropy. >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris Message-ID: <cdoutyED2I89.Bq0@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu> <ED0rvC.ILA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:00:09 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom13.netcom.com In article <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net>, Steve Dekorte <dekorte@slip.net> wrote: >> In article <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu>, <Michael Giddings> wrote: >> >our OpenStep based software on Solaris. Any advice or info related to >> >experiences with OS/Solaris would be appreciated. > >Sun has not done such a great job with OpenStep on Solaris. >The last time I saw it, porting an OpenStep Mach app to OpenStep Solaris >was not trivial and simultaniously maintaining Solaris and non-Solaris >versions looked painfull. > >If you want to run custom OpenStep GUI apps, I'd recommend running >OpenStep Mach for Sparc on those desktop Sun machines. OpenStep Solaris is rather painful, but like another correspondent I only have a 32MB Sparc 10. It does look an awful like the NS 3.3 desktop though and is a good alternative to CDE. My big complaint with running OS Mach for Sparc is that it does not support UltraSPARC boxes. This leaves only the SPARC station 5 as current production platform. If you have a lot of SPARC 10's and 20's then you are probably OK. I really doubt that Apple is going to port to the Ultra line anytime soon with either Rhapsody or old Mach. _I'd_ like to hear experiences with PDO. -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: mann@nautilus.weblab.rest.tasc.com (John Mann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris Date: 10 Jul 1997 00:48:53 GMT Organization: TASC Message-ID: <5q1bhl$n7t@lois.Read.TASC.COM> References: <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net> In article <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net> Steve Dekorte <dekorte@slip.net> writes: > > In article <5prptt$2b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu>, <Michael Giddings> wrote: > > >our OpenStep based software on Solaris. Any advice or info related to > > >experiences with OS/Solaris would be appreciated. > > Sun has not done such a great job with OpenStep on Solaris. > The last time I saw it, porting an OpenStep Mach app to OpenStep Solaris > was not trivial and simultaniously maintaining Solaris and non-Solaris > versions looked painfull. > > If you want to run custom OpenStep GUI apps, I'd recommend running > OpenStep Mach for Sparc on those desktop Sun machines. > > If you want to run custom servers written with Objective-C and the OpenStep > Foundation libs, EOF, WebObjects, or DO, then just install NeXT PDO for Sparc > on your Solaris boxes and you should be able to recompile your servers without > problems. > > -- > Steve Dekorte - OpenStep consultant - San Francisco In reference to running custom Apps, be careful. I called Apple and they told me there are no plans to release a version of OpenStep that runs on Ultra SPARC machines. You'll have to settle for slower servers with no opportunity for upgrade. I am currently running Solaris and OpenStep (separately) on a SPARC4. I would like to upgrade the chasis to UltraSPARC, but would have to run 'Solaris only' after the upgrade. Since I have already purchased Developer software for OpenStep, I cannot afford the complementary Workshop for Solaris; its a 'home' system. Also, Linux is available for SPARC. But, at present, GNUStep cannot offer the same capability. So, it seems the options are rather limited.
From: cejensen@bitstream.net (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ? Date: 10 Jul 1997 02:21:41 GMT Organization: Bitstream Underground Message-ID: <5q1gvl$nd9$1@maryj.bitstream.net> References: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com> <5pujiq$377$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> In-Reply-To: <5pujiq$377$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> On 07/08/97, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: >OmniWeb 2.6b2 is an early beta that wasn't actually intended for >public release.[...] Feel free to use it, but keep in mind that we >don't consider it a releasable beta yet and we will not be supporting >it. Listen to him! I gave it a try (the N version), and it's, ah... a little rough around the edges. The Console reported something about loading a "Japanese decoder" or some such thing, and then the browser would not load anything... not even the local, "Welcome", start page. Chastened, I'll stick with 2.5 for now! >When the official beta is released, I strongly encourage you to test >it and provide your feedback as 2.6 is anticipated to be the last >version for NEXTSTEP Alas, say it ain't so! -- ******************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net MIME, NeXTMail OK
From: Damn Yankee<damnyankee@yankee.inc> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Yankee Inc. Subject: I Am Very Sorry!!! Message-ID: <33c2597d.1@nntp.kalnet.net> Date: 8 Jul 97 15:15:09 GMT I would like to apologise to this newsgroup and everyone who reads this newsgroup!!! I promise never to post or send spam to this or any other newsgroup that does not pertain to my posting!!! Please accept my humble apology and again I will never post spam here again!!! Thank You!!! Andrew Schero yank714@kalnet.net
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris Date: 10 Jul 1997 05:14:34 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Message-ID: <5q1r3q$qhq@portal.gmu.edu> References: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> <ED0rvC.ILA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net> <cdoutyED2I89.Bq0@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Question for folks in this thread, I have heard there's a cg3 hack out there somewhere for Sol OpenStep. Does anyone know where I can find it? Thanks much, Tim -- ____________________________________________________________________________ My words are my own. They are opinion and subject to change. If you don't like them, don't read them. They don't reflect anything other than sheer opinion at best, on a good day, with a tailwind.
From: erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Please Help! Pulling hair out over install Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 23:53:48 -0800 Organization: EdgeMedia Networks Message-ID: <erich-0907972353490001@ppp-207-104-16-26.snrf01.pacbell.net> Ive about had it with the OpenStep 4.2 install. I am using a generic PC motherboard with an AMD chip. I am using the EIDE sockets on the board to connect my HD and CD-ROM. I have tried everything under the sun to get this thing running OpenStep 4.2 and time after time the install DIES at the exact same point. I have tried using the -v and -s at the boot: prompt. I just dont get why it wont work. I called up NeXT support and they said it was the EIDE interface on my board, well I turned that off and used an EIDE card that I had laying around and that didn't work either! Can somebody out there that has installed OpenStep 4.2 onto an IDE HD with an ATAPI CDROM please give me some hints and clues as to what to do? Please? Is it me? Am I doing something wrong? Should I upgrade to SCSI? Well, I am completing another Phase 1 install. My fingers are crossed that this works. Oh, I really hope this works! Thanks. ==================== Eric H. erich@powerwareintl.com
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From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ? Date: 10 Jul 1997 12:44:29 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Message-ID: <5q2lfd$r9g@news.tamu.edu> References: <5pt4nn$dbu$1@concorde.ctp.com> <5pujiq$377$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <5q1gvl$nd9$1@maryj.bitstream.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Jul 1997 12:44:29 GMT > On 07/08/97, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: > >OmniWeb 2.6b2 is an early beta that wasn't actually intended for > >public release.[...] Feel free to use it, but keep in mind that we > >don't consider it a releasable beta yet and we will not be supporting > >it. > > Listen to him! I gave it a try (the N version), and it's, ah... a > little rough around the edges. The Console reported something about > loading a "Japanese decoder" or some such thing, and then the browser > would not load anything... not even the local, "Welcome", start page. > > Chastened, I'll stick with 2.5 for now! > Really? I've found 2.6b2 to be rather stable for my use. Tables are definitely faster ;-) Startup seems faster too. In particular checking if some bookmarked pages have been updated seems much faster. I did see that Japanese decoder thing too in the console panel though. Looking forward to the "official" 2.6 beta release. blue skies, Hanspeter Schaub
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu> Subject: Re: Update: Moveing lotus improv files from black h/w to lotus wk# format. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 07:47:03 CDT." <33C38847.435940BD@fuller.com> Message-ID: <199707101354.JAA10027@micro.cs.rochester.edu> Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger) Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:54:45 -0400 "H. Blakely Williford" wrote: >The improv SaveAS option produces a file called <filename>.wk4.imp > >This file is unreadable from lotus 1-2-3. > >Lotus Improv >Release 1.0 - x108_0 >Jan 23, 1991 [...] I'm using the same version of Improv on my slab. In the Save-As dialogue box, there's a file-type pop-up button beneath the text field containing the filename. Click on it and choose either wk1 or wk3. You'll get another dialogue box asking about various conversion parameters. Once you click the "Export" button there, you're done. There is no support for wk4 format as far as I can tell. --Eric --- Eric K. Ringger mailto:ringger@cs.rochester.edu Dept. of Computer Science Office: +1-716-275-0922; Lab: +1-716-275-1083 University of Rochester Fax: +1-716-461-2018 Rochester, NY 14627-0226 http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/ringger/ ||||| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |||||
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb & SSL Date: 10 Jul 1997 15:51:19 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5q30dn$ahp@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> I'd like to get OmniWeb to accept my self signed certificates. Is this possible? Is there any documentation on how to do this? I'm running an Apache 1.2 server with SSL patch and SSLeay 0.6.6. Everything works great from Win95 using both Explorer and Navigator, but OmniWeb will not load a certificate with the CGI script I use to load Explorer and Navigator. -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: Peter Aamodt <aamodtpw@cco.caltech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Update: Moveing lotus improv files from black h/w to lotus wk# format. Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:53:56 -0700 Organization: Caltech Message-ID: <33C50594.3DD7@cco.caltech.edu> References: <33C38847.435940BD@fuller.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit H. Blakely Williford wrote: > > The improv SaveAS option produces a file called <filename>.wk4.imp > > This file is unreadable from lotus 1-2-3. > > Lotus Improv > Release 1.0 - x108_0 > Jan 23, 1991 > > thank you again for your time. > > -- > H. Blakely Williford | Men never do evil so completely and > Systems Administrator/Programmer | cheerfully as when they do it from > The Fuller Brush Company | religious conviction. -- Pascal In Lotus Improv, you can save an .imp file as either a .wk1 or a .wk3 file. There is no .wk4 option because Improv came out before that format ever existed. You can't simply rename the extension, either - your file is still in Improv format. There is a little pulldown menu for the other file formats where it shows the format you're saving as (.imp is the default). Good luck. Peter Aamodt Caltech
From: "David J. Hinners" <david@mistinc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TIME & Attendance SOFTWARE Date: 10 Jul 1997 16:35:59 GMT Organization: M.I.S.T., Inc. Message-ID: <01bc8d4f$5528c7c0$13003282@dhinners> I am looking for a time and attendance package that would include employee time cards with either magnetic media or barcoding. I have heard of something called Symplex system but can not find any information. If anyone can help it would be appreciated. E-mail David@mistinc.com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Something better than OmniWeb2.1 out there? Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:49:04 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970710104250.21991B-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5q0gn6$gu1$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> On 9 Jul 1997 Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com wrote: > As far as "bad html" goes I always end up using "bad html" in order to > get my page "right". i.e., standard html just isn't enough. Since most > people use Netscape anyway I tailor my pages for that. Maybe that's not > "technically right", but it's certainly what I find practical. This is a strange definition of 'right'. I consider a page to be done 'right' when it can be navigated on any browser which knows the official HTML tagsets. If you have to tailor it for NetScrape, then it isn't right. If this is what you find practical, then perhaps we should forget any HTML standards and let NetScape and MI decide for themselves what they want HTML tags to look like, and then we can go back to proprietary documents that can only be read on certain machines. As for me, I think the beauty of HTML is/was that I make my pages using an ascii text editor (I used Edit.app for mine) and anyone anywhere can read them. Ok frames were hard for lynx for awhile, but there were tags for nongraphical browsers, and lynx now even has a way of handing frames pages without <NOFRAME> tags. TjL ps -- sorry for any latent Hebrew anxiety/aggression which has come forth in this post... I've got my first exam tomorrow.... why am I reading Usenet anyway??? -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html "Everything is easy when you know what you are doing." - Dr Robert Cupper, Department of CS, Allegheny College
From: dave@tlogic.com (David Aylesworth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb & SSL Date: 10 Jul 1997 18:08:26 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <5q38eq$6r5@camel12.mindspring.com> References: <5q30dn$ahp@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> OmniWeb does not care about self-signed certificates like Netscape and Internet Explorer do. You do not need to install CA certificates with the x509-ca-cert MIME type. -Dave far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) wrote: > >I'd like to get OmniWeb to accept my self signed certificates. Is >this possible? Is there any documentation on how to do this? > >I'm running an Apache 1.2 server with SSL patch and SSLeay 0.6.6. >Everything works great from Win95 using both Explorer and Navigator, >but OmniWeb will not load a certificate with the CGI script I use >to load Explorer and Navigator. > > > > > >-- >Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from >Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was > # armed; his successors, since they avoided >far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private >(NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. >(MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli David Aylesworth Technologic, Inc david.aylesworth@tlogic.com 770/522-0222 x228
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:14:26 -0600 From: Alan J. Roy <alanjroy@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Searching for an ISP who understand UNIX aka NeXT in NY City Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Message-ID: <868555363.27387@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Yes! I called ATT and MCI and they only know about MS Windows or Mac :^( Could some kind soul leads me an ISP in the New York City area. Thanks Alan -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Searching for an ISP who understand UNIX aka NeXT in NY City Date: 10 Jul 1997 21:27:56 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5q3k4s$2h6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <868555363.27387@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: alanjroy@worldnet.att.net In <868555363.27387@dejanews.com> Alan J. Roy wrote: > Yes! I called ATT and MCI and they only know about MS Windows > or Mac :^( > > Could some kind soul leads me an ISP in the New York City > area. > > Thanks > > Alan > > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet > www.precipice.com -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com
From: bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu.nospam (keyser soze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Yap on NS3.2 ? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 10 Jul 1997 21:50:51 GMT Organization: Ice Station Zebra Distribution: world Message-ID: <bear-100797145207@macleec.llnl.gov> I use to use a NeXT a lot when it was running NS2.0. I really liked a program called Yap which was a postscript previewer demo program. I have picked up an old colorstation that is running NS3.2 but there's no Yap on it. Does Yap run under 3.2 ? If not, is there a comparable interactive postscript interpreter like Yap ? Thanks Chris
From: pbm@ananas.usr.dsi.unimi.it (Paolo "Bussola" Marchiori) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X-Windows Date: 10 Jul 1997 16:51:23 GMT Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University Message-ID: <5q33ub$sjt$1@pluto.sm.dsi.unimi.it> Hi people, I work on three cubes, one with NS3 and two with NS2. I want to use 'em as xterms, launching the xserver -query. I've found a decent server with frontend (Xfe) for NS3 but it does'nt works on the Ns2 cubes. I've an R4 server for NS2 but it hasn't frontend and being R4 doesn't allow TCP fonts. Does anybody knows if there are R6 servers for NS2, possibly with frontend and good mouse driving (my server only sees ONE mouse button!) or, even better, a server that stays in a NS window (X-Win32 like)? I've tried to compile R6.3 with gcc 2.7.2.2 but it seems there's nothing to do... Please try to answer also via mail. Thanks in advance, --Paolo ----------------------------------><---------------------------------- N Message by/spedito da/envoye' par: Paolo "Bussola" Marchiori ^ pbm@ananas.usr.dsi.unimi.it | http://ananas.usr.dsi.unimi.it/~pbm W<--O-->E Join me on the first italian MOO: Little Italy | telnet little.usr.dsi.unimi.it 4444 V Sysadm @ LAC & LABPF, wizard on Little Italy MOO S "Tutti volere Pinguino Bagonghi! Freddo! Super freddo!" ----------------------------------><----------------------------------
From: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Questions about OS4/Intel Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:41:38 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <ibhan-1007972241380001@227.cambridge-002.ma.dial-access.att.net> I'm considering getting a PC to run OpenStep/Rhapsody alongside my Mac box. How much of a pain is it to get it to work on Intel hardware? I'm I really much better off sticking with a new PowerMac box (my current 7100 won't run Rhapsody)? Anyone doing MIDI with OpenSTEP on Intel? How well does it work? Comments? Thoughts -- -- Ishir Bhan (ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu) http://www.digitas.harvard.edu/~ibhan
From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Questions about OS4/Intel (MIDI) Date: 11 Jul 1997 06:05:19 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Message-ID: <5q4iev$l06$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> References: <ibhan-1007972241380001@227.cambridge-002.ma.dial-access.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu In <ibhan-1007972241380001@227.cambridge-002.ma.dial-access.att.net> Ishir Bhan wrote: > Anyone doing MIDI with OpenSTEP on Intel? How well does it work? > > Comments? Thoughts Performance wise, pretty damn well. Of course, not a lot of applications, but those that are around are fairly complete: Sequence and Calliope, SynthBuilder, Ensemble, the MusicKit for development etc. All of the above are PD (SynthBuilder requires an academic license to Stanford). You'll need an MPU-401 compatible interface and a DSP card if you want to do real-time synthesis. I'm running comfortably on 150 and 166MHz Pentiums, but I've had good results even on a 486DX2/66MHz -- Leigh Computer Science, University of Western Australia Smith +61-9-9380-3778 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME) "Home pages are the pet rock of the 90s. We all have them, we all think they're very cute. But in a few years we're going to look back and be pretty embarrassed." -- Tony Shepps <toad@pond.com> "Why wait?" -- Peter Langston
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Yap on NS3.2 ? Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 18:00:08 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970710175950.21916J-100000@kira> References: <bear-100797145207@macleec.llnl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: keyser soze <bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu.nospam> In-Reply-To: <bear-100797145207@macleec.llnl.gov> I've never used them but you might try ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/graphics/postscript/BeYap.1.21b.NI.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/graphics/postscript/BeYap.README or ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/graphics/postscript/EnhancedYap.NIHS.bs.tar.gz TjL
From: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] What's the best X server in Step? Date: 11 Jul 1997 09:01:04 GMT Organization: Delft University of Technology Message-ID: <5q4sog$oib$1@news.tudelft.nl> References: <5pvbbe$7ku$1@news.nuri.net> Jin Ko writes > > What's the best X server for NEXTSTEP? > > I tried Xnext but I'm not so satisfied with it for it's slower than > I expected. > Please recommend me any cool X server better(faster :-) ) > than Xnext even if comercial. I tested CubXwindow from intuitivesystems and I liked it very much. Furthermore they have committed to porting this X server to Rhapsody ! Look on the Net to find them. _____________________________________________________________________ Abraham Guyt P.O.Box 356 Department of Information Systems 2600 AJ Delft Faculty Technical Mathematics & Informatics The Netherlands Delft University of Technology tel: +31 15 278 5969 E-mail: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl NeXT-mail welcome
From: iant@interpage.net (Ian Tait) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Courier/Despatch Software ? Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 11:34:37 GMT Organization: Deliverence Message-ID: <33c61907.2854342@newnews.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know of the existance of software specifically for courier companies, that would provide for taking bookings and invoicing etc ? Ian
From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tell me about the future. Is OS-I obsolete? Date: 11 Jul 1997 13:16:20 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <5q5bn4$7o$2@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii At some point I have to upgrade my black hardware. Is OS for intel going to be alive and supported for long enough to make it a worthwhile option? Is Rhapsody going to support Intel hardware? Tim
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Questions about OS4/Intel Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 09:27:33 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <MnlXH5u00iWl02FBA0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <ibhan-1007972241380001@227.cambridge-002.ma.dial-access.att.net> In-Reply-To: <ibhan-1007972241380001@227.cambridge-002.ma.dial-access.att.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 10-Jul-97 Questions about OS4/Intel by Ishir Bhan@student.med.h > I'm considering getting a PC to run OpenStep/Rhapsody alongside my Mac > box. How much of a pain is it to get it to work on Intel hardware? That depends on whether you've got hardware supported by NeXT, and it helps to have SCSI rather than EIDE/ATAPI. Look at <URL=http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/NABrowse?/Compatibility_Guides>. > I'm I really much better off sticking with a new PowerMac box (my > current 7100 won't run Rhapsody)? Not the initial DR1, true; however, I would imagine that a 7100 would work just ine with the final release. > Anyone doing MIDI with OpenSTEP on Intel? How well does it work? Someone else already answered this one-- make sure to check out Stanfords' CCRMA site <URL=http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/> for SynthBuilder and the MusicKit. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Thomas Harte <tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: graphics in TeXView ? Date: 11 Jul 1997 14:32:49 GMT Organization: Cambridge University Message-ID: <5q5g6h$s8u@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How should graphics be included so that TeXView-grey can see them? I usually use psfig but TeXView-grey can only display one or two figures in a (moderately-sized) document before it starts to screw up the display and shows text as stretched and unreadable and only displays the bottom LH of the page and part of an included figure but all magnified and.... It doesn't misbehave with text-only files. Anybody ever experience the same thing and have a work-around? Thanks, -- thomas harte @ computer laboratory, cambridge university; tph1001@CL.cam.ac.uk; phone: +44 1223 334628; fax: 334678; http://www.CL.cam.ac.uk/users/tph1001 for zero entropy.
From: Paul WINDEY <windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: neomagic driver? Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:14:54 +0200 Organization: Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI) Message-ID: <33C64DEE.694E7905@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, does anybody knows if there is a driver for the graphics chipset NeoMagic NM 2093 which drives the display of the Thinkpad 380 (I believe it is also the display chip of some Dell portables) Thanks -- Paul Windey, LPTHE Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI) Bte 126 4pl Jussieu F-75252 Paris CEDEX 05, FRANCE e-mail: windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr tel: 33-01-4427 7456 (Secretariat: 4427 4121) FAX: 33-01-4427 73 93
From: ftouhi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Majid Ftouhi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Print Just Add or Even Pages? Date: 11 Jul 1997 16:09:40 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <5q5ls4$9gg@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii HI there: I have LaserJet 5L , and i use GSPrintfilter. Is there program that can select just add or even pages to print? Is there something that can do the page numbering when i print some document ? Thanks in advance
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD Quality sound into DSP Date: 11 Jul 1997 09:34:25 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5q5nah$fcl@slip.net> Hi, I have an 040/25 Cube and am interested in packages which will allow one to record CD-Sound into the NeXT DSP. What packages aside from DigitalEars are available? Of these, is DigitalEars the best package available? Thanks, Emmett
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ? Date: 11 Jul 1997 14:43:03 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5q5gpn$lkh@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <5q2lfd$r9g@news.tamu.edu> In article <5q2lfd$r9g@news.tamu.edu> schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub) writes: > > On 07/08/97, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: > > >OmniWeb 2.6b2 is an early beta that wasn't actually intended for > > >public release.[...] Feel free to use it, but keep in mind that we > > >don't consider it a releasable beta yet and we will not be supporting > > >it. > > > > Listen to him! I gave it a try (the N version), and it's, ah... a > > little rough around the edges. The Console reported something about > > loading a "Japanese decoder" or some such thing, and then the browser > > would not load anything... not even the local, "Welcome", start page. > > > > Chastened, I'll stick with 2.5 for now! > > Really? I've found 2.6b2 to be rather stable for my use. Tables are > definitely faster ;-) Startup seems faster too. In particular checking if > some bookmarked pages have been updated seems much faster. I did see that > Japanese decoder thing too in the console panel though. Same here. 2.6b2 is fast and absolutely stable. But .png looks the same like with OW 2.5. > Looking forward to the "official" 2.6 beta release. Yep. And there really really really should be a Java enhanced version available also for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP for Mach and not only for Rhapsody. If Netscape and MS can do this on any hardware and OS, why not Omni? David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tell me about the future. Is OS-I obsolete? Date: 11 Jul 1997 16:53:46 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5q5oeq$fna$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5q5bn4$7o$2@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: tvz@Princeton.EDU In <5q5bn4$7o$2@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Timothy Van Zandt wrote: > At some point I have to upgrade my black hardware. > Is OS for intel going to be alive and supported for long > enough to make it a worthwhile option? Is Rhapsody > going to support Intel hardware? While this is obviously wild speculation: If Rhapsody does not run, and run well, on Pentium based computers, OpenStep and Rhapsody will die when Apple goes out of business. (This may happen anyway, even if it does run on Pentiums). What will happen after 4,2? Who knows? I however, being bold and optimistic (or stupid, depending on hindsight when this all washes out ;-) just bought a brand new Pentium for OpenStep, working under the assumption that a) Rhapsody will run on it [it is all SCSI], and b) if it doesn't I'll have a good machine to run 4.2 on for a long time. I'm very pleased with the decision. Bifrost Workstations put it together for me (has anyone not heard me say that yet?) and they did a great job. (BTW Tim, if you'd like to see it, I'm in Princeton, out by Route 1, we could definitely get together if you want to see how a properly put together Intel machine runs). TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] What's the best X server in Step? Date: 11 Jul 1997 16:59:12 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5q5op0$fna$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5pvbbe$7ku$1@news.nuri.net> <5q4sog$oib$1@news.tudelft.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In <5q4sog$oib$1@news.tudelft.nl> A. Guyt wrote: > Jin Ko writes > > > > What's the best X server for NEXTSTEP? > > > > I tried Xnext but I'm not so satisfied with it for it's slower than > > I expected. > > Please recommend me any cool X server better(faster :-) ) > > than Xnext even if comercial. > > I tested CubXwindow from intuitivesystems and I liked it very much. > Furthermore they have committed to porting this X server to Rhapsody ! > > Look on the Net to find them. http://www.intuisys.com/ demos can also be found at ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/XNeXT/ TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Print Just Add or Even Pages? Date: 11 Jul 1997 18:31:34 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University Message-ID: <5q5u66$2p0@news.tamu.edu> References: <5q5ls4$9gg@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Jul 1997 18:31:34 GMT > HI there: > I have LaserJet 5L , and i use GSPrintfilter. > > Is there program that can select just add or even pages to print? > Is there something that can do the page numbering when i print some > document ? > > Thanks in advance > There is an app called PostscriptHelper.app that allows you to filter a postscript document and create either odd or even only pages. This is great to print double sided documents. Hanspeter Schaub schaub@tamu.edu
From: info@scribex.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Print Just Add or Even Pages? Date: 11 Jul 1997 19:33:50 GMT Organization: VTL Message-ID: <5q61qu$492$1@wagner.videotron.net> References: <5q5ls4$9gg@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> <5q5u66$2p0@news.tamu.edu> In-Reply-To: <5q5u66$2p0@news.tamu.edu> Here's the path to PostScriptHelper. ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/fro ntends/PostScriptHelper.0.8.NIHS.bsd.tar.gz -Andre =========================== On 07/11/97, Hanspeter Schaub wrote: > > HI there: > > I have LaserJet 5L , and i use GSPrintfilter. > > > > Is there program that can select just add or even pages to print? > > Is there something that can do the page numbering when i print some > > document ? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > There is an app called PostscriptHelper.app that allows you to filter a postscript document and create either odd or even only pages. This is great to print double sided documents. > > Hanspeter Schaub > schaub@tamu.edu > >
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ? Date: 11 Jul 1997 19:58:20 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5q2lfd$r9g@news.tamu.edu> <5q5gpn$lkh@hal.nexttoyou.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In <5q5gpn$lkh@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel wrote: > Same here. 2.6b2 is fast and absolutely stable. But .png looks the same like > with OW 2.5. PNG may or may not catch on.... no I don't want to start a debate on whether or not it "should" I am saying I don't know that it "will".... after all, people don't want to stick to the HTML standards, why bring up a standard image format? Anyway, I'd rather have faster rendering especially of tables, than support for a relatively minor image type. > > Looking forward to the "official" 2.6 beta release. > > Yep. And there really really really should be a Java enhanced version > available also for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP for Mach and not only for Rhapsody. If > Netscape and MS can do this on any hardware and OS, why not Omni? You are kidding, right? How much $ does NetScape and MS have compared to OmniGroup? And what about programmers, etc? That's no way to compare. It's like saying that WalMart is doing better than the corner speciality shop with a handful of employees. OmniGroup has said that OmniWeb 3.0 will be designed to support animated gifs (and turn them off ;-) as well as support for Java (as much of Java which is an independent standard, vs something like J++ or JavaScript). OW2.6 will be the last version that will run on NeXTStep, and while the main focus is on increasing table rendered speed, there will be "something" done to allow for "some" Java to run on NeXTStep machines, but the focus will be on 3.0 and OpenStep -- as I think it should be. Hopefully someone from OG will correct me if I have misspoken. TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: schacht@phys.washington.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica 3.0 trouble on OpenStep 4.2 Date: 12 Jul 1997 01:03:40 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <5q6l5c$ecq@nntp6.u.washington.edu> Hello all, Well, I suppose there is little chance of getting an answer from Wolfram tech support during the weekend so someone tell me if you've heard this before (please tell me you've heard this before!): I just installed OpenStep 4.2 on my Black 25Mhz MonoSlab and now I can't get Mathematica 3.0 going on it. I upgraded from NextStep 3.0 which ran Mathematica 3.0 splendidly, however, with 4.2 it installs fine but won't run. There is no message in the console, though if I try launching from a terminal window I do get a terse "bus error". The OS install was a completely fresh install from scratch and Mathematica was the very next thing to go on. Something in the back of my mind is mumbling about NS3.0 libraries, but the back of my mind hardly ever knows what's going on, I expect 4.x runs 3.x binaries with no trouble. I have already checked the Wolfram tech support web site, there was an item similar to this, though not exactly and in any case the recommended fix didn't help (deleting some user configuration files). I also checked NeXTAnswers, and DejaNews but found nothing helpful. Does anyone have any ideas/suggestions? Can anyone report successfully running Mathematica 3.0 on OpenStep 4.2/Black? Thanks much, Mike Schacht schacht@phys.washington.edu
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From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is WebMapper.app? Date: 11 Jul 1997 18:12:12 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5q5t1s$hrj@news.acns.nwu.edu> I'm learning to develop web pages. I need a tool to give me pixel coordinates so I can us imagemaps in my web pages. I was told that WebMapper.app is the tool to use. I've looked everywhere and I can't find it or a demo of it. Can anyone tell me where to get/buy it? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ? Date: 12 Jul 1997 02:51:47 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5q6rg3$be8@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J Luoma <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> writes: > In <5q5gpn$lkh@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel wrote: > > > Same here. 2.6b2 is fast and absolutely stable. But .png looks the same > like > > with OW 2.5. > > PNG may or may not catch on.... no I don't want to start a debate on > wether or not it "should" I am saying I don't know that it "will".... after > all, people don't want to stick to the HTML standards, why bring up a > standard image format? Anyway, I'd rather have faster rendering especially > of tables, than support for a relatively minor image type. That's a very political answer. After all .png just seems to be better than gif or .jpg. > > > Looking forward to the "official" 2.6 beta release. > > > > Yep. And there really really really should be a Java enhanced version > > available also for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP for Mach and not only for Rhapsody. > > > If Netscape and MS can do this on any hardware and OS, why not Omni? > > You are kidding, right? How much $ does NetScape and MS have compared to > OmniGroup? And what about programmers, etc? That's no way to compare. > It's like saying that WalMart is doing better than the corner speciality > shop with a handful of employees. Quantity = Quality? So you mean that Microsoft must be better than NeXT or Apple because of their number of employees and the money they have? Then, of course, you should use Windows... > OmniGroup has said that OmniWeb 3.0 will be designed to support animated > gifs (and turn them off ;-) as well as support for Java (as much of Java > which is an independent standard, vs something like J++ or JavaScript). I read the information published in their mailing list and I was very disappointed. Netsurfer had support for animated gifs a long time ago. But animated gifs really are one of the most unnecessary features in a web browser I could imagine. > OW2.6 will be the last version that will run on NeXTStep, and while the > main focus is on increasing table rendered speed, there will be "something" > done to allow for "some" Java to run on NeXTStep machines, but the focus > will be on 3.0 and OpenStep -- as I think it should be. AFAIK they said that Java just will be supported in the Rhapsody version and MAYBE in an OPENSTEP/Mach version (depends on Apple). And if OPENSTEP/Mach won't be able to run OW 3.0+Java I'm asking myself who really wants to "upgrade" (?) to Rhapsody giving up most of the old NEXTSTEP third party software AND in some cases also the currently used hardware (this most probably means HP, NeXT and SPARC) only to run OW 3.0+Java? They (Omni Development) can't be serious.... David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
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From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ? Date: 12 Jul 1997 03:27:55 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5q6tjr$s0k$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5q6rg3$be8@hal.nexttoyou.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In <5q6rg3$be8@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel wrote: > In article <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J Luoma > <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> writes: > > In <5q5gpn$lkh@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel wrote: > > > That's a very political answer. After all .png just seems to be better than > gif or .jpg. If your definition of PNG is freely available, yes. If your definition is widespread acceptance, than no. Remember, the NeXT hardware was better than anything else, and still is... but NeXT finally had to stop making it because no one came to the parade. > > > Yep. And there really really really should be a Java enhanced version > > > available also for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP for Mach and not only for Rhapsody. > > > > > If Netscape and MS can do this on any hardware and OS, why not Omni? > > > > You are kidding, right? How much $ does NetScape and MS have compared to > > OmniGroup? And what about programmers, etc? That's no way to compare. > > It's like saying that WalMart is doing better than the corner speciality > > shop with a handful of employees. > > Quantity = Quality? So you mean that Microsoft must be better than NeXT or > Apple because of their number of employees and the money they have? Then, of > course, you should use Windows... Good god no... that's nothing near what I was saying. In fact, more often than not you get better products from the corner speciality shop that a discount store that goes for low price. Quantity only matters in terms of _resources_ available to do things such as deal with Java stuff... > I read the information published in their mailing list and I was very > disappointed. Netsurfer had support for animated gifs a long time ago. But > animated gifs really are one of the most unnecessary features in a web > browser I could imagine. I'll go further and say they're damn annoying... > AFAIK they said that Java just will be supported in the Rhapsody version and > MAYBE in an OPENSTEP/Mach version (depends on Apple). And if OPENSTEP/Mach > won't be able to run OW 3.0+Java I'm asking myself who really wants to > "upgrade" (?) to Rhapsody giving up most of the old NEXTSTEP third party > software AND in some cases also the currently used hardware (this most > probably means HP, NeXT and SPARC) only to run OW 3.0+Java? Good question.... > They (Omni Development) can't be serious.... It may be a situation which they would prefer to have happen differently, but do not have the programmers and other resources to make it happen. Rhapsody is probably/perhaps the last hope for whoever remains of the 3rd party software companies. If I were them I'd focus my attention on it as well.... Remember also that if Rhapsody is as compatible as they say it will be, there will be plenty of folks who figure that they might as well use NetScape, because that is what everyone else is using and different=bad for most of the (American?) population. So they have to make sure that their product is vastly superior to take the marketshare that a giant like NetScape has just by sheer weight of web-presence. I have high hopes for Rhapsody, but I would think it is a scary -- if exhilarating -- time to have your livlihood dependent on its success.... TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is WebMapper.app? Date: 12 Jul 1997 03:18:02 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Distribution: world Message-ID: <5q6t1a$s0k$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5q5t1s$hrj@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: daj@nwu.edu In <5q5t1s$hrj@news.acns.nwu.edu> daj@nwu.edu wrote: > I'm learning to develop web pages. I need a tool to give me pixel coordinates so I can us imagemaps in my web pages. I was told that WebMapper.app is the tool to use. I've looked everywhere and I can't find it or a demo of it. > > Can anyone tell me where to get/buy it? look in ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/WebMapper/ this is the latest version: 5.NIHS.tar.gz single archs are also available. BTW you can search the archive for word such as 'webmapper' by sending email to 'luomat@peak.org' with the SUBJECT search-peak webmapper and it will send you the URLs back via email TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
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From: naj@_nospam_fraxinus.fast.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TickleService && lipo && sparc Date: 12 Jul 1997 04:27:42 GMT Organization: FASTNET(tm) PA/NJ/DE Internet Message-ID: <5q713u$qvc$1@news1.fast.net> Naw, c'mon, wonst. I can't be the first to struggle with this. I'm addicted to TickleServices; I admit that right up front. And, yeah, I like TjL's lipo routines, but they don't do the find -depth that Herr Hess's tickleservices do. So I'm trying to get the TS liposuction routines to vacuum out sparc binaries from within fat apps but to no avail. I can thin for sparc only, prove that a binary is obese with sparc bits, but as soon as I try to Services-TS->Edit Files to suck out a particular binary, TS barfs. Please tell me I dunhaveta get the OReilly Tickle book for a simple mod like this. What is it that adding sparc to Scott's list of obesities breaks Edit Files? Yeah, yeah, sure I can do a find -exec lipo by hand, but why bother? That's the whole point of TickleServices. Another person wasting his Friday night in front of a screen, Naj --- M. `Naj' Najarian <<clever epigram goes here>> <remainder of .sig omitted to befuddle spambots. Figure.> --
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From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ? Date: 12 Jul 1997 01:36:28 -0400 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5q754s$4am$1@sps1.phys.vt.edu> References: <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5q6rg3$be8@hal.nexttoyou.de> In article <5q6rg3$be8@hal.nexttoyou.de>, David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> wrote: > In article <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J Luoma > <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> writes: > > OW2.6 will be the last version that will run on NeXTStep, and while the > > main focus is on increasing table rendered speed, there will be "something" > > done to allow for "some" Java to run on NeXTStep machines, but the focus > > will be on 3.0 and OpenStep -- as I think it should be. > AFAIK they said that Java just will be supported in the Rhapsody version and > MAYBE in an OPENSTEP/Mach version (depends on Apple). And if OPENSTEP/Mach > won't be able to run OW 3.0+Java I'm asking myself who really wants to > "upgrade" (?) to Rhapsody giving up most of the old NEXTSTEP third party > software AND in some cases also the currently used hardware (this most > probably means HP, NeXT and SPARC) only to run OW 3.0+Java? > They (Omni Development) can't be serious.... Sheesh! Give them a break! (1) The future of the OpenStep market is Rhapsody. You can't blame them for attempting to serve that market, which will be vastly larger than all of the legacy users put together. It's nice to try to stay backwards-compatible, but not to the point of causing them to expend too much effort (such as writing their own Java implementation). They are a business, not a charity. I think their time is better spent ensuring that OmniWeb will be as competitive as possible with the feature set of their new Rhapsody competitor, Netscape. (2) Writing a full Java implementation, including VM and AWT, is a decidedly NONtrivial task. Can you blame them for wanting to just use Apple's implementation, instead of spending a large amount of effort attempting to finish their own?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Seeking comments of experience with OpenStep 1.0 on Solaris Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <ED5rK2.67r@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 14:14:26 GMT References: <ECq525.9sA@prosoft.com> <5q0j74$9qs$1@owl.slip.net> <cdoutyED2I89.Bq0@netcom.com> <5q1r3q$qhq@portal.gmu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5q1r3q$qhq@portal.gmu.edu>, Tim <tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu> wrote: >Question for folks in this thread, I have heard there's a cg3 hack >out there somewhere for Sol OpenStep. Does anyone know where I can >find it? > This isn't for Solaris OpenStep (Solaris likes the cg3 just fine) but for OPENSTEP for Mach/SPARC. I don't really know more. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rob Blessin? Blackhole, Inc? Where are you? Message-ID: <5q37u7$57d$1@jake.esu.edu> From: katz@cs.millersv.edu (Beth Katz) Date: 10 Jul 1997 17:59:35 GMT References: <5pf6ib$qrv@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <5pupr6$bdl@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania Well, we just ordered our academic copies of OpenStep 4.2 for Mach from Apple. I wandered around NeXT's site and found: http://www.next.com/BuyNow/WebFaq.html where I read about academic purchases. I sent mail to appleom_ext@next.com and received a prompt response from Karen Scott saying: > You may order Openstep 4.2 from us here at this address. The Academic > price is $299.00 plus tax and freight. Please provide us the following: > > A copy of your student id to be faxed at 512 919 2054 > Name/phone number > Shipping address > Billing address > method of payment (if credit card, we need the cc# and expiration date) > (Visa, MasterCard, and American Express) > product you are ordering with platform specified. > > We can take this info via email with the exception on your > student/faculity id card. The reason we need the card is to be able to > qualify you for the low prices!! We faxed them the info and were told the CDs went out Wednesday and should be here Friday. That's tomorrow. No need to deal with NASCCORP or your local bookstore. I'll admit that when I bought from Rob (4.0 last summer) he got them out as soon as NeXT got them to him. Beth Katz katz@cs.millersv.edu
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From: John Zachary <zachary@bit.csc.lsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: FS: OpenStep 4.2 Mach User+Developer Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 21:03:24 -0500 Organization: LSU Robotics Research Laboratory Message-ID: <33C8376C.34BA@bit.csc.lsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have been seduced by the dark side into (one of) my dream jobs and as a consequence, I won't have time to devote to porting some projects to OpenStep. Thus, I have the recent OpenStep 4.2 Mach for Intel User + Developer software with manuals for sale. I ordered it all directly from Apple about 4 weeks ago so the manuals haven't even been read. Asking price is $240 + 1/2 of S/H in the continental U.S. John Note: This is the academic version but has the full-blown capability.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD Quality sound into DSP References: <5q5nah$fcl@slip.net> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <33c8169b.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 12 Jul 97 23:43:23 GMT In article <5q5nah$fcl@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: > >Hi, > >I have an 040/25 Cube and am interested >in packages which will allow one to record >CD-Sound into the NeXT DSP. > >What packages aside from DigitalEars are >available? Of these, is DigitalEars the best >package available? > >Thanks, > >Emmett > There was a hardware and software package from Singular Solutions (959 East Colorado Blvd Pasadena CA 91106 1-818-792-9567) called the A/D64x which provided for digital input and output via the SSI port of the DSP on the original black NeXT hardware. I have used this extensively and am very pleased with the performance. I can use it to read and write DAT. I also use the DAT machine to produce the final output when I want analog out (using the D-A facility on the DAT -- this is the one criticism I have of the A/D64x, shouldn't have to do this, it should be built in!) They occasionally come up as used items. I don't know if SS still supplies them new. Hope this helps. david --- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem with WordPerfect 1.0.1 Date: 13 Jul 1997 01:01:53 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5q99e1$dsr@ttacs7.ttu.edu> i installed wp 1.0.1 on my Next Turbo Color Station and i have the follwing problem: when i type in a wp document, some of the typed letters, like s, don't appear on screen. also, the backspace key adds an additional space. is there a way that i can fix this? any help is appreciated. hs
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From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat+next+usenet@luomat.peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problem with WordPerfect 1.0.1 Date: 13 Jul 1997 02:14:54 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5q9dmu$skg$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5q99e1$dsr@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu In <5q99e1$dsr@ttacs7.ttu.edu> seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu wrote: is this a ADB system? What is the date in the 'Info' panel? (there were more than one version 1.0.1) TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
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From: Marco Cappuccio <nocturno@i-2000.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep on VIrtual PC? Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 14:19:07 -0400 Organization: I-2000 Inc., Internet Services Message-ID: <33C91C11.303176AE@i-2000.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone tried installing OpenStep 4.2 with Mach for Intel on a Macintosh running Virtual PC? I got it up and running. It's slow. Too slow to be usable. Does anyone have a few performance improvement tips? What daemons can I delete from the startup to improve performance without crippling the system. When running Windows 95 Virtual PC "feels" like a 486 DX2/66. Is that too slow of a system for OpenStep Mach? I'm also stuck in 640x480 x2 video. Changing the configuration in configure.app and reinstalling the driver doesn't help. Virtual PC emulates a S3 928 PCI SVGA video chip set with 2 MB of video ram. OpenStep appears to have recognized this but it is stuck in the default video mode. Experience with Virtual PC shows that matching the video display mode to that of the Mac has a considerable speed boost. Thanks for your help. From a NeXT novice, Marco Cappuccio
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From: brownk@interport.net (Kurt Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTStep 3.3 and other OS's Date: Sun, 13 Jul 97 20:12:01 GMT Organization: Interport Communications Corp. Message-ID: <5qbcjb$m7s$1@broadway.interport.net> Hi, Just came into possesion of a copy of Nextstep 3.3 for the Intel platform. I'm trying to decide which machine to put it on but I am not sure how it will handle other Operating systems. My machines all run DOS/Linux, Win95/NT4. Is there a LILO type program or boot manager with nextstep? Does it work when other OS's besides DOS are installed and how does the dual boot between DOS work? Thanks Kurt Brown /|\
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ? Date: 13 Jul 1997 15:46:30 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5qat8m$114@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <5q754s$4am$1@sps1.phys.vt.edu> In article <5q754s$4am$1@sps1.phys.vt.edu> nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) writes: > In article <5q6rg3$be8@hal.nexttoyou.de>, David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> wrote: > > > In article <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J Luoma > > <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> writes: > > > > OW2.6 will be the last version that will run on NeXTStep, and while the > > > main focus is on increasing table rendered speed, there will be > > > "something" done to allow for "some" Java to run on NeXTStep machines, > > > but the focus will be on 3.0 and OpenStep -- as I think it should be. > > > AFAIK they said that Java just will be supported in the Rhapsody version > > and MAYBE in an OPENSTEP/Mach version (depends on Apple). And if > > OPENSTEP/Mach won't be able to run OW 3.0+Java I'm asking myself who > > really wants to "upgrade" (?) to Rhapsody giving up most of the old > > NEXTSTEP third party software AND in some cases also the currently used > > hardware (this most probably means HP, NeXT and SPARC) only to run OW > > 3.0+Java? > > > > They (Omni Development) can't be serious.... > > Sheesh! Give them a break! > > (1) The future of the OpenStep market is Rhapsody. You can't blame > them for attempting to serve that market, which will be vastly larger > than all of the legacy users put together. It's nice to try to stay > backwards-compatible, but not to the point of causing them to expend > too much effort (such as writing their own Java implementation). They > are a business, not a charity. I think their time is better spent > ensuring that OmniWeb will be as competitive as possible with the > feature set of their new Rhapsody competitor, Netscape. Well, you're right and wrong at the same time :-). It is a fact that most of us volunteered as NeXTguineapigs but it is also highly probable that being a NeXTguineapig won't be a lifetime position for some of us. So combining missing company "charity" with missing user "charity" is not a good start. > (2) Writing a full Java implementation, including VM and AWT, is a > decidedly NONtrivial task. Can you blame them for wanting to just use > Apple's implementation, instead of spending a large amount of effort > attempting to finish their own? I can blame Apple if they really believe that every NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Mach user will give up the past six or so years just to run Rhapsody. David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb 2.6b2 ? Date: 13 Jul 1997 15:29:47 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5qas9b$n6@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <5q6tjr$s0k$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <5q6tjr$s0k$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J Luoma <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> writes: > In <5q6rg3$be8@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel wrote: > > In article <5q638s$29a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J Luoma > > <luomat+next@luomat.peak.org> writes: > > > In <5q5gpn$lkh@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel wrote: > > > > > That's a very political answer. After all .png just seems to be better > > than .gif or .jpg. > > If your definition of PNG is freely available, yes. > > If your definition is widespread acceptance, than no. A question of time, yes. I do not know what will happen tomorrow but I'm ready to accept every free increase in quality. > Remember, the NeXT hardware was better than anything else, and still is... > but NeXT finally had to stop making it because no one came to the parade. True. [...] > > Quantity = Quality? So you mean that Microsoft must be better than NeXT > > or Apple because of their number of employees and the money they have? > > Then, of course, you should use Windows... > > Good god no... that's nothing near what I was saying. In fact, more often > than not you get better products from the corner speciality shop that a > discount store that goes for low price. And that's exactly the reason for the fact that so many good software is available for NEXTSTEP and so many overestimated for other mainstream OS's. > Quantity only matters in terms of _resources_ available to do things such > as deal with Java stuff... My resources as a customer also are extremely limited after years of hope and disappointment. This might be surprising for Apple and Omni and some other companies involved. But this time I won't be an early and convinced Rhapsody customer if it means giving up all the past. > > They (Omni Development) can't be serious.... > > It may be a situation which they would prefer to have happen differently, > but do not have the programmers and other resources to make it happen. True. > Rhapsody is probably/perhaps the last hope for whoever remains of the 3rd > party software companies. If I were them I'd focus my attention on it as > well.... Yes and no. There should be a certain loyality for money relation. Not only the customer loyality to pay for software and for upgrades and then to look how supported software becomes unsupported but also a company loyality. This means for Apple not to try to give up the whole NeXTworld and reinvent the wheel with Rhapsody 1.0. > Remember also that if Rhapsody is as compatible as they say it will be, > there will be plenty of folks who figure that they might as well use > Netscape, because that is what everyone else is using and different=bad for > most of the (American?) population. So they have to make sure that their > product is vastly superior to take the marketshare that a giant like > NetScape has just by sheer weight of web-presence. Then, if Omni Development does not want to loose support from their NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Mach users, they simply should not forget them. David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: a11@a.a Subject: $$$ NEW SYSTEM, BETTER THAN "ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST" $$$ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: 18 Message-ID: <33c92482.0@news.unibe.ch> Date: 13 Jul 97 18:54:58 GMT I have participated in the standard "Please put me on your mailing list" letter and found it to be worth my time (I get 1 or 2 handfulls or letters every day) but I also found that it's results were nowhere near what I expected due mainly to people not sending in the money but rather spreading the letter without paying for it. I participated in that mainly as an experiment and found that there are a tremendous amount of people willing to do it. I thought about how to, first, eliminate the "non-pay" problem and, second, to create a monthly income. I came upon the solution and decided to start a new program. I decided that there were 3 things that this new program needed in order to work for everyone and they were: 1.) It needed to be very simple and easy for anyone to do, and, 2.) It needed to be inexpensive enough for even the poorest of people, and, 3.) It needs to be DUPLICATABLE. I think you will find this program to meet those requirements. I have put lots of thought into it and I ask that you PLEASE do NOT modify it. This WILL WORK if you follow it. This system is based on the unconditional "loaning" of money to people. Simply say, "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can." You should find 5 or more people who will send $2 to the 5 needy people on this list AND MAINTAIN 5 or more people who will do the same. You should put your name on postition number 5 and move each of the other names up one position. The name originally on position number 1 gets removed. You should be able to contact each of your 5 or more people to see if they are going to be active this month. If not then you need to find one or more people to be active in order to maintain at least 5. I am not speaking about the 5 people on the list but rather the 5 new people you have found. I would highly suggest having more than 5 in any given month. Now I know that this would be extremely easy to do since I can think of at least 20 people myself who will do this consistently. The key is to maintain at LEAST 5 active people. If you don't then you can't expect for the rest of the people to do it either and you can't expect for this system to work. This system is a no-brainer, and if someone can't afford the $10 + stamps for this then they truly ARE in need! It is OK to use the internet to find people but I think it would be easier to find them through people that you know. This way it will be easier for you to contact them every month to ask about their being active, unless someone is willing to give you their e-mail address. Here are some numbers: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 4 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 4 people = $8, Total now $8 Level 2: $2 x 16 people = $32, Total now $8 + $32 = $40 Level 3: $2 x 64 people = $128, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 = $168 Level 4: $2 x 256 people = $512, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 = $680 Level 5: $2 x 1024 people = $2048, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 + $2048 = *** $2728 *** Yearly income: $2728 x 12 months = $32,736 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 5 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 5 people = $10, Total now $10 Level 2: $2 x 25 people = $50, Total now $10 + $50 = $60 Level 3: $2 x 125 people = $250, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 = $310 Level 4: $2 x 500 people = $1000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 = $1310 Level 5: $2 x 2500 people = $5000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 + $5000 = *** $6310 *** Yearly income: $6310 x 12 months = $75,720 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 6 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 6 people = $12, Total now $12 Level 2: $2 x 36 people = $72, Total now $12 + $72 = $84 Level 3: $2 x 216 people = $432, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 = $516 Level 4: $2 x 1296 people = $2592, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 = $3108 Level 5: $2 x 7776 people = $15552, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 + $15552 = *** $18660 *** Yearly income: $18660 x 12 months = $223,920 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 7 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 7 people = $14, Total now $14 Level 2: $2 x 49 people = $98, Total now $14 + $98 = $112 Level 3: $2 x 343 people = $686, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 = $798 Level 4: $2 x 2401 people = $4802, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 = $5600 Level 5: $2 x 16807 people = $33614, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 + $33614 = *** $39214 *** Yearly income: $39214 x 12 months = $470,568 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind that it does not matter what day of the month that someone chooses to be active. 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From: a17@a.a Subject: $$$$$$$ LOAN BUSINESS, EASY MONTHLY INCOME, NO BRAINER $$$$ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: 14 Message-ID: <33c92492.0@news.unibe.ch> Date: 13 Jul 97 18:55:14 GMT I have participated in the standard "Please put me on your mailing list" letter and found it to be worth my time (I get 1 or 2 handfulls or letters every day) but I also found that it's results were nowhere near what I expected due mainly to people not sending in the money but rather spreading the letter without paying for it. I participated in that mainly as an experiment and found that there are a tremendous amount of people willing to do it. I thought about how to, first, eliminate the "non-pay" problem and, second, to create a monthly income. I came upon the solution and decided to start a new program. I decided that there were 3 things that this new program needed in order to work for everyone and they were: 1.) It needed to be very simple and easy for anyone to do, and, 2.) It needed to be inexpensive enough for even the poorest of people, and, 3.) It needs to be DUPLICATABLE. I think you will find this program to meet those requirements. I have put lots of thought into it and I ask that you PLEASE do NOT modify it. This WILL WORK if you follow it. This system is based on the unconditional "loaning" of money to people. Simply say, "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can." You should find 5 or more people who will send $2 to the 5 needy people on this list AND MAINTAIN 5 or more people who will do the same. You should put your name on postition number 5 and move each of the other names up one position. The name originally on position number 1 gets removed. You should be able to contact each of your 5 or more people to see if they are going to be active this month. If not then you need to find one or more people to be active in order to maintain at least 5. I am not speaking about the 5 people on the list but rather the 5 new people you have found. I would highly suggest having more than 5 in any given month. Now I know that this would be extremely easy to do since I can think of at least 20 people myself who will do this consistently. The key is to maintain at LEAST 5 active people. If you don't then you can't expect for the rest of the people to do it either and you can't expect for this system to work. This system is a no-brainer, and if someone can't afford the $10 + stamps for this then they truly ARE in need! It is OK to use the internet to find people but I think it would be easier to find them through people that you know. This way it will be easier for you to contact them every month to ask about their being active, unless someone is willing to give you their e-mail address. Here are some numbers: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 4 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 4 people = $8, Total now $8 Level 2: $2 x 16 people = $32, Total now $8 + $32 = $40 Level 3: $2 x 64 people = $128, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 = $168 Level 4: $2 x 256 people = $512, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 = $680 Level 5: $2 x 1024 people = $2048, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 + $2048 = *** $2728 *** Yearly income: $2728 x 12 months = $32,736 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 5 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 5 people = $10, Total now $10 Level 2: $2 x 25 people = $50, Total now $10 + $50 = $60 Level 3: $2 x 125 people = $250, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 = $310 Level 4: $2 x 500 people = $1000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 = $1310 Level 5: $2 x 2500 people = $5000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 + $5000 = *** $6310 *** Yearly income: $6310 x 12 months = $75,720 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 6 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 6 people = $12, Total now $12 Level 2: $2 x 36 people = $72, Total now $12 + $72 = $84 Level 3: $2 x 216 people = $432, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 = $516 Level 4: $2 x 1296 people = $2592, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 = $3108 Level 5: $2 x 7776 people = $15552, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 + $15552 = *** $18660 *** Yearly income: $18660 x 12 months = $223,920 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 7 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 7 people = $14, Total now $14 Level 2: $2 x 49 people = $98, Total now $14 + $98 = $112 Level 3: $2 x 343 people = $686, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 = $798 Level 4: $2 x 2401 people = $4802, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 = $5600 Level 5: $2 x 16807 people = $33614, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 + $33614 = *** $39214 *** Yearly income: $39214 x 12 months = $470,568 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind that it does not matter what day of the month that someone chooses to be active. It DOES matter that they are active on that day EVERY month. The key to this is DUPLICATION! You must treat this as a business. If you treat it like a hobby that is how it will treat you. You could even organize small meetings with your people and their prospects and work with your leaders. Think of how easy this would be for you, how reasonable this is, and of how good the chances are of it working for you. You may need to hire someone to open all the envelopes. NOTE: I decided on $2 instead of $1 because it is more feasible and it won't matter much for someone to send $2 as opposed to $1. Also I was against $5 as that becomes too expensive to duplicate. Mail $2 every month with a piece of paper saying "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can" to the following needy people: #1 Robert Jezil 114 Jefferson Ave. Slidell, LA 70460 #2 Phil Walther Jr. 9495 Annapolis Lane North Maple Grove, MN 55369 #3 C. E. Burkman 170 University Ave. W Suite 12-129 Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3E9 #4 A. Bailey 1207 Reeves Road Plainfield, IN 46168 #5 J. Martin P.O. Box 2292 Reston, Va. 20195
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Getting audio in NeXTtv Date: 11 Jul 1997 22:06:57 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5q73dh$63h@slip.net> Hi, The NeXT Dimension board has 2 RCA connectors and a Din-5 connector. Does one have to use the Din-5 connector to get audio while watching NeXTtv? Is there a such thing as a RCA to Din-5 adapter? My VCR only has RCA connectors. Thanks, Emmett
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