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From: vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lost Boot sector adding win95 Date: 29 Aug 1996 15:37:54 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <504dgi$92a@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <501q6q$1mtg@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <501ttt$blc@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Cc: jut@ukrv.de J.-U. Thieme schrieb in comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software: > > > In <501q6q$1mtg@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Bill Punch wrote: > > I have an Intel P590 with a 1 Gb drive partitioned into 75%NeXT and > > 25%DOS. Well, it was DOS, but I installed from scratch Win95 into > > the DOS partition. Now Win95 runs well but it no longer prompts me > > at boot time for the partition to start, and I can't start NeXT. > > Obviously, the Win95 install over-wrote the boot prompt. How can I > > re-install, get back the boot prompt. Thanks. > > > > > > 1.) Boot from the NeXT-Installfloppy > 2.) use : disk -b "raw-device" , this command write a new bootsector > on your drive. > Better use "disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rsd0a" according to NA1470. CIAO Volker --- Volker Safran, Berlin, Germany ___________________________________ --- / Phone: +49 30 45482196 (private) volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de / +49 30 45058062 (at work) vsafran@ukrv.de (at work) / FAX : +49 30 45482198 (private) ______________________________/ +49 30 45058904 (at work)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: stes@cwi.nl (David Stes) Subject: Re: datebook/planner SW Message-ID: <DwwqE3.E69@cwi.nl> Sender: news@cwi.nl (The Daily Dross) Organization: CWI, Amsterdam References: <4vsith$bpq@cgl.ucsf.edu> <4vt3d0$4ev@usenet.rpi.edu> <503ua6$ejm@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:13:14 GMT In article <503ua6$ejm@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) writes: > >You should look at Pencil Me In, from Sarrus Software. It is much better >than Windows calendar software, and was developed for NeXTSTEP. Start Absolutely. I find it one of the finest pieces of software developed for NextStep. I rate it second after Improv. It's really a nice user interface.
From: Malte Tancred (malte@oops.se) Newsgroups: biz.jobs.offered,comp.databases.object,comp.jobs,comp.jobs.computer,comp.jobs.offered,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.objective-c,comp.object.corba,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AT&T Wireless Services - SEATTLE - SENIOR PROGRAMMER ANALYST FOR DATA MODELING AND SYSTEM DESIGN Date: 30 Aug 1996 10:00:29 GMT Organization: Taide Net Message-ID: <506e3t$sj3@parabol.taide.net> References: <01bb93a5.4889d4e0$61629dcc@karen95> In-Reply-To: <01bb93a5.4889d4e0$61629dcc@karen95> On 08/27/96, "The Washington Firm, Ltd." wrote: [snipped ad] Boring adds doesn't belong in this news group. I don't want to read this shit. Post your ads in the right group! Malte -- Malte Tancred OOPS art, HB malte@oops.se http://www.oops.se/~malte
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Date: 29 Aug 1996 21:04:40 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5050l8$ds7@news.digifix.com> References: <504sut$d1t@jake.esu.edu> In-Reply-To: <504sut$d1t@jake.esu.edu> On 08/29/96, Beth Katz wrote: >We recently installed OpenStep 4.0 for Mach (academic bundle) on our >25Mhz mono slab that had 20MB of memory. It ran okay, but there was a >reasonable amount of paging (we have the swap file on the internal disk, >while most file accesses are to the external disk, so you can hear the >swapping as well as view the swapfile's size). So with memory being cheap >($185 for 8MB from PC Connection), we upgraded to 32MB. > Not wanting to rub it in (they probably have a return policy anyways) but I just bought 32Mb SIMMS (60Ns EDO 72Pin) from The Chip Merchant for $174 each! I was stunned to find the price was that low. They are down to $159 today. And The Chip Merchant has been around for years, were very professional as far as shipping goes, and they are brand new. <snip actual positive OS 4.0 usage >
From: virgiliot@arcanet.it (Virgilio Testa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <4vvr3v$ra7@server-b.cs.interbusiness.it> Control: cancel <4vvr3v$ra7@server-b.cs.interbusiness.it> Date: 29 Aug 1996 19:08:01 GMT Organization: Centro Servizi Interbusiness Message-ID: <504pqh$5hd@server-b.cs.interbusiness.it> cancel
From: kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kyle Hearfield) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: FS: Famemaker and Lotus Improv. cheap Date: 29 Aug 1996 21:19:40 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Message-ID: <5051hc$u0f@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> I have factory sealed copies of Lotus Improv and Framemaker for NeXT computers I am willing to let them go for 50$ US each or 75$ US for the both + shipping. The terms will be COD. If you would like one or both of these email me @ kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca -- I don't wan't the world, I just want your half. -Unknown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kyle D. Hearfield kyle@morgan.ucs.mun.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PGP FINGERPRINT = 8A 3C 24 C9 86 F5 E6 3C 7B 91 D2 B1 CF 32 B7 E9 **finger for public Key**
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.s From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Sender: <kkooim@ix.netcom.com> Date: 29 Aug 1996 09:32:14 EDT Control: cancel <01bb954c$26ef7120$2e84d6ce@yanee> Subject: cmsg cancel <01bb954c$26ef7120$2e84d6ce@yanee> Message-ID: <cancel.01bb954c$26ef7120$2e84d6ce@yanee> Spam/MMF cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was Earn extra money fast!!
From: virgiliot@arcanet.it (Virgilio Testa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <4vvr3v$ra7@server-b.cs.interbusiness.it> Control: cancel <4vvr3v$ra7@server-b.cs.interbusiness.it> Date: 29 Aug 1996 22:03:23 GMT Organization: Centro Servizi Interbusiness Message-ID: <50543b$atk@server-b.cs.interbusiness.it> cancel
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From: c671143@muebnx7 (Michael Roberts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ET4000W32 for OpenStep Date: 30 Aug 1996 19:34:56 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Message-ID: <507fp0$ug2@news.missouri.edu> I installed OpenStep under the assumption that my video card would work without any problems. It's a Diamond Stealth 32. The chipset is Tseng ET4000W32. According to NeXTAnswers, there is a driver available... Wrong! NeXT dropped support for the driver after 3.2. Now I'm stuck. I can get 800x600 at 2bit with the Generic SVGA driver. Does anyone have any suggestions. I would like at least some color. Perhaps some source code. Thanks. Michael Roberts c671143@showme.missouri.edu<---Still can't get NeXTMail to work with PPP but working on it with Sendmail and Popover.
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: datebook/planner SW Date: 29 Aug 1996 11:18:30 GMT Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd. Message-ID: <503ua6$ejm@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <4vsith$bpq@cgl.ucsf.edu> <4vt3d0$4ev@usenet.rpi.edu> Cc: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu In <4vt3d0$4ev@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn wrote: > botka@cgl.ucsf.edu (Cristopher Botka) wrote: > > Does anyone know a good datebook/daily planner app out there? > > Preferrably ported to HPPA. I have seen Cassandra, but have not > > been able to find a newer version than 1.5.2, which is a bit old. > > I should also note that there are some commercial apps available > for doing this kind of thing. At the moment I'm tired enough > that I can't think of their names, but it is likely that they > have more features and more attention than Cassandra has had > lately... You should look at Pencil Me In, from Sarrus Software. It is much better than Windows calendar software, and was developed for NeXTSTEP. Start with http://www.sarrus.com. I believe that there is another commercial program from a German company called Dater, but I don't know the details. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: don@misckit.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Date: 1 Sep 1996 18:43:05 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <50clfp$fsc@news.xmission.com> References: <504sut$d1t@jake.esu.edu> <505u4n$fsc@news.xmission.com> <5071pg$hik@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <Em_7=Xu00iWX42y6Br@andrew.cmu.edu> A couple of quick notes on this thread... First, Art is right, a factor of eight when moving to color is a bit steep; I oversimplified, and the difference is probably more in the 2-6 range. Remember that not just the windows and backing store require more memory, though. There are icons and other buffers for drawing which can also take up a lot of RAM. In the extreme case, some fo the games I wrote have more than 75% of their memory used by graphics. So promoting them to color can really hit a machine hard... At any rate, I still submit that many of the problems I've seen with speed on my Turbo Color station are due to paging. Usings Chuck's rule of thumb for vm_stat, I estimate that someone running 16 bit color probably needs about 64 MB RAM to reach good performance, since my 48 MB machine pages more than it "should" be doing. But it is pretty close, so I don't think that having more than 64MB would be a big help except for machines that are used for a _lot_ of compiling and graphics (or a lot of OmniWeb). On my 64MB Pentium Pro, it doesn't matter. That machine is fast enough that OPENSTEP runs just fine for me, and so from now on, that's where I'll run the OPENSTEP PB. On my color turbo, it is infuriatingly slow--long launch time and slow during use. The only thing that's fast is command-q. On the Pentium Pro, though, it's just fine. :-) And since I really like the new PB, well, that's where I'll run it. --- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: marcel@system.de (Marcel Weiher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Date: 1 Sep 1996 23:21:04 GMT Organization: Unlimited Surprise Systems, Berlin Distribution: world Message-ID: <50d5p0$j4@unlisys.unlisys.net> References: <504sut$d1t@jake.esu.edu> <505u4n$fsc@news.xmission.com> <5071pg$hik@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> Cc: aisbell@ix.netcom.com In <5071pg$hik@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> Art Isbell wrote: [...] > I believe the sluggishness of OPENSTEP apps like IB and PB is due to the > slowness in loading frameworks (I can see this when running under gdb) and > the lack of optimization of the system frameworks since they are new. I > don't hear paging occurring when this sluggishness is evident, so I don't > think it's a memory issue. I'd say that a significant part of any OPENSTEP sluggishness can be attributed to the Foundation code. In one tool, I noticed a 10:1 performance penalty for using NSString and NSArray instead of Lists and my own string/data-container. Things that are especially troublesone are the NSString formatting functions and extra reference-counts being maintained in hash-tables for quite a few of the basic data types, which seems unavoidable whenever they are put in an NSArray for example. Marcel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bisbey@loretta.la.ca.us (Richard Bisbey II) Subject: Re: ET4000W32 for OpenStep Message-ID: <1996Sep2.154907.17699@loretta.la.ca.us> Organization: --- References: <507fp0$ug2@news.missouri.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 15:49:07 GMT In article <507fp0$ug2@news.missouri.edu> c671143@showme.missouri.edu writes: >I installed OpenStep under the assumption that my video card would >work without any problems. It's a Diamond Stealth 32. The chipset is >Tseng ET4000W32. According to NeXTAnswers, there is a driver available... >Wrong! NeXT dropped support for the driver after 3.2. Now I'm stuck. >I can get 800x600 at 2bit with the Generic SVGA driver. Does anyone have >any suggestions. I would like at least some color. Perhaps some source >code. Thanks. > >Michael Roberts >c671143@showme.missouri.edu<---Still can't get NeXTMail to work with PPP >but working on it with Sendmail and Popover. You might try: NEXT_330.ZIP - NextStep 3.3 Driver for W32, W32i & W32p found on Tseng Lab's WWW page: URL: http://www.tseng.com/sftlst2.htm I was never able to make Next's ET4000W32 driver work with my MiroVideo 20TD running NextStep 3.3; the Tseng Lab's driver works fine.
From: "Rob Blessin" <rob@optimal-object.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Does Mathmatica work with Openstep 4.0 for Mach? Date: 29 Aug 1996 21:06:17 GMT Organization: Optimal Object, Inc. Message-ID: <01bb9629$82a38280$376df326@void.object-tech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Next Community: Has anyone tested any versions of Mathmatica with Openstep 4.0 for Mach ? Does it function flawlessly or are there any problems ? Please feel free to direct any opinions, reviews or assistance pertaining to the performance of applications running under Openstep for Mach on Black/Intel/Sun to rob@optimal-object.com and I will pass the information along to our customers. We just sold the last of our 3.3 Academic Bundles for NEXT/Intel , ~10, 3.3 Bundles for Sun/Hp remain . Openstep 4.0 Academic Bundles for MACH are available for $299 and $25 for Shipping. If you are interested an Order form is at the bottom of the post. Our next shipment of 4.0 bundles for Mach will arrive Tuesday ! Best regards: -- Rob Blessin National Sales Account Manager Optimal Object , Inc. 4685 Peoria St., Suite 221 Denver, CO 80239 PH# 800-452-7608 PH# 303-799-6223 FAX 303-799-1435 Email: rob@optimal-object.com http://www.optimal-object.com/ FEIN 84-128-1797 ************************************************* Optimal Object, Inc. Order Form for OPENSTEP Academic Purchases Name: ____________________________________________________________ Phone: ________________________ Fax:______________________________ E-Mail (please specify if you have NEXT Mail)___________________________________ Date:____________________ Shipping Address ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ ············································································ ··········································· ·NOTE TO STUDENTS AND FACULTY MEMBERS: With your order you must include the following information: 1) Photocopy of Student ID · FACULTY MEMBERS must include a Photocpy of Faculty ID ONLY 2) AND a Photocopy of either your Class Schedule or Tuition Bill (proof of current enrollment) NOTE: orders under $1000.00 US must be pre-paid by check or credit card ············································································ ··········································· · Specifications of Order: (CIRCLE OR LIST YOUR SELECTION) Academic Bundle: User4.0 / Developer 4.0 * $299.00 plus shipping $25.00 Platforms Available: Intel, Sun, NeXT List Platform: ___________________ QUANTITY (Limited to one per student) : Credit Card Number and Expiration Date: (Visa,Mastercard,Discover ) ______________________________________________________________ Credit Card Authorization Signature:______________________________________________________________ Please sign the following statement: (this order will not be processed without signature) THE UNDERSIGNED AGREES, on behalf of the institution ("buyer") placing this and any future order for the NEXTSTEP Academic Bundle (the "Academic Software"), using this form or on buyer's purchase order, (a) that the Academic Software is for academic use only; (b) that buyer shall restrict use of the Academic Software to university or college students and faculty; and (c) that any use of the Academic Software in commercial work, or for the direct benefit of the US government or its agencies, or to develop applications for commercial or government use or distribution, is not permitted and violates the Academic Software license agreement. Signed: _______________________________________________ Software sales are final. Please mail or fax this information to the following: Attention Sales Department Optimal Object, Inc. (previoulsy dbaObject Technologies, Inc), 4685 Peoria Street, Suite 221, Denver, CO 80239 800-452-7608 fax 303-799-1435 303-799-6223 info@optimal-object.com http://www.optimal-object.com
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.announce Subject: Peanuts CD-ROM scheduled. Upload now! Date: 2 Sep 1996 19:47:25 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Message-ID: <50fdkd$hq5@news.digifix.com> The Peanuts archive is currently going to compile a new set of its famous CD-ROM set. The set will be completely new --- no update. Everybody who hasn't uploaded yet to one of the known main archive sites or to peanuts.leo.org itself is welcome to upload now so his uploads are included on the new CD-ROM set. Commercial uploaders should read the new README and welcome message at: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/ . There are new opportunities! Peanuts is a non profit archive site located in Germany. It's a service to the NeXT community. The archive contains tons of software including (but not limited to): WebObjects objects, OpenStep applications, Fonts, Sound/Graphics/Networking/Communication/... applications, Games, hundreds of Developer examples, News archives, Developer documentation and much more. The archive is available on CD-ROM and published irregular but at most once a year. To find out more about Peanuts take a look at our Web pages at: http://peanuts.leo.org/ or access the FTP archive at: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/ To order the current set of CD-ROMs or to preorder the new set write to: cdrom@peanuts.leo.org For contacting the archive admins write to: peanuts-admin@peanuts.leo.org For general questions about the archive etc. write to: info@peanuts.leo.org -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholzb@pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: Chris Barnes <cbarnes@cis.tamu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software Subject: tn3270 keyboard mapping on NeXTStep Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:31:37 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Distribution: inet Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960902163055.25222B-100000@cis> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have tn3270 installed on my NeXT (and it works), but the keyboard mapping is,,,, well,,,, I'll be polite and say it leaves alot to be desired. For example, the arrow keys are not mapped, I *still* don't know where PA1 is, etc. Does anyone have a good keymap set, or even just a set of instructions of how to build a keymap file (and info on where it goes). Any assistance would be appreciated ------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Barnes (409) 846-3273 (home) chris-barnes@tamu.edu (409) 845-8300 (work) http://helper.tamu.edu/STAFF/cbarnes/ <--- new address
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: Versions of NeXTSTEP 3.2 (NIHS/N/I/H/S,user/dev,academ/comm) ? Date: 2 Sep 1996 10:32:47 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <50ed4f$fu6@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <509tgf$f3e@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> nickel@widget.ecn.purdue.edu (David A Nickel) wrote: >Does 3.2 come in > an academic version with software (not license terms) > different from the "commercial" version? No. Academic version is just the same as developer version. > separate user and developer systems? You can get the commercial version as a "user" and "developer" system. > is "user" a subset of "developer" or is "user" plus "developer" > a complete system? the developer version is user + development kit. > an NIHS FAT version? No. AFAIK 3.2 exists only for m68k and Intel hardware. The CD shoud be fat but you need the appropriate boot disks for installing. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LaTeX2e installation Date: 2 Sep 1996 16:01:16 GMT Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada Message-ID: <50f0cc$qup@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> I retrieved the LaTeX2eBase and LaTeX2ePackages .pkg files from the Munich archives, but before I install them over my old LaTex209 system, I wonder if they work with the latex executable (/usr/bin/latex) and with the various NeXT TeX apps without problems. I'm using NS 3.0 on m68k. -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (NeXTmail OK) Psychology Department York University Voice: 416 736-5118 4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Asking a favor Date: 3 Sep 1996 02:40:21 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <50g5ql$11g@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <01bb9798$69b121e0$331543a4@lullaby> "Duncan Idaho" <everblue@ucla.edu> wrote: > I'm looking to utilize the Recycler animation in NeXTSTEP in a > Windoze app I'm currently working on. Unfortunately I sold my > copy a while back so I have to get the bitmaps from someone else. "Utilize", as in "copy" and "use without permission"? My guess is that you'll be treading on some copyright issues that you should not be treading on. What makes you think you have the right to use those images for some application you're writing? --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 03:47:05 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023060040309960347050001@news.tiac.net> References: <504sut$d1t@jake.esu.edu> <505u4n$fsc@news.xmission.com> <5071pg$hik@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <Em_7=Xu00iWX42y6Br@andrew.cmu.edu> <50clfp$fsc@news.xmission.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <50clfp$fsc@news.xmission.com>, don@misckit.com wrote: > A couple of quick notes on this thread... > > At any rate, I still submit that many of the problems I've seen > with speed on my Turbo Color station are due to paging. (snip) > On my 64MB Pentium Pro, it doesn't matter. That machine is fast > enough that OPENSTEP runs just fine for me (snip) Last time I checked, people seemed to feel that Pentiums didn't offer much real speedup over the Turbos. It would be interesting to know what sort of Pentium chip speed is needed to beat a Turbo under 3.3 and 4.0. And, yes, I know it depends on all sorts of things, but roughly? Barney
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19960903.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19960823.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19960827.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 03 Sep 1996 02:00:00 -0600 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: weekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
From: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LaTeX2e installation Date: 3 Sep 1996 13:56:33 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <50hdeh$7ui@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <50f0cc$qup@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) wrote: % I retrieved the LaTeX2eBase and LaTeX2ePackages .pkg files from the % Munich archives, but before I install them over my old LaTex209 system, % I wonder if they work with the latex executable (/usr/bin/latex) % and with the various NeXT TeX apps without problems. % I'm using NS 3.0 on m68k. Yes. btw, the tetex distribution on the TUG CD "texlive" is great. runs much faster than the original next tex. ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/ % Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (NeXTmail % OK) % Psychology Department % York University Voice: 416 736-5118 % 4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html % Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Connection Help Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960903100151.5953A-100000@charisma> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 10:05:28 -0400 References: <507bjk$c87@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> To: Majid Ftouhi <ftouhi@IRO.UMontreal.CA> In-Reply-To: <507bjk$c87@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 30 Aug 1996, Majid Ftouhi wrote: > Hi there : > i'm a new NextStep intel user. I have some problem with my connection at > home. > i get these messages > > Aug 30 14:16:18 tiznit netmsgserver[22]: network_init > Aug 30 14:16:18 tiznit netmsgserver[22]: Cannot get the socket broadcast > address for interface ppp0: m > Aug 30 14:16:18 tiznit netmsgserver[22]: Warning: could not find a useful > broadcast address, using 255.255.255.255 > > and my connection some time is lost after different periode. Some time after > 10min, 30min. 1hour. It might be that your computer thinks it is hooked up to a network. Run HostManager.app and make sure things are "local" Don't know exactly what it is, but that's a good guess... > I can't use the ftp clearly because i lose the connection before i get all > thing loaded. Well, if you really need to ftp something, use: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info/ncftp-2.3.0.NIHS.tar.gz or ftp://next-ftp.peak..org/pub/next/submissions/Yftp.0.564.NIHS.bs.tar.gz both of which can do "continue" ftp jobs, ie: if the connection dies you can restart it at the point where you were cut off. TjL -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Email Auto-Responder: for PGP key, use SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey for NeXT info, use SUBJECT: send-ascii info Also, see: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next LOOKING FOR NS 3.3 (m68k) User/Dev (cheap ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <emma@titania.csse.swin.edu.au> Message-ID: <9609031336.AA00339@titania> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.0 v146.2) From: Emma Erin Beckett <emma@titania.csse.swin.edu.au> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 96 23:36:08 +1000 Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Hi, On performance, I had been running NS 3.3 on a pentium 100 with only 16MB of ram and an IDE hard drive, and have since upgraded to OS 4.0 for Mach and have not noticed a slowdown at all in the way my machine has performed. Just thought I'd mention it, as most of the posts here have come from people with what sound like quite powerful machines (64MB memory and pentium pro's and such). I have been getting the general impression that those sorts of machine specs are what people feel is necessary for OS 4.0. Anyway in my experiance OS 4.0 and NS 3.3 have been working fine on my machine and there doesn't seem to be any slowdown between the two. At least not for the work I have been doing. Just my input on it. Bye! Emma
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTStep DPS "Terminal" Date: 3 Sep 1996 16:50:20 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <50hnkc$o90@inet-prime.comshare.com> I'd be amazed if this idea hasn't been pursued in detail before, but I thought I'd offer it up so there'd be something besides crosspostings to read... The computer industry revisits the idea of specialized low-end machines cyclically; sometimes it's a good idea, sometimes not. It's being revisited now in a number of forms (Network Computers, etc). How would a Display PostScript "Terminal" play out? A stripped down kernel that ran a WindowServer that would NXHost Workspace Manager and any app's that were launched (maybe add authentication upon connect). How much stuff would be pushed over the wire, compared to X? Would minimal audio support be practical? The more I work with X-windows, the more I wonder about alternatives. Saying CDE is too little too late is rather an understatement. The embedded DPS in X is hardly elegant, it begs the question "could X be excised?" Regards, Alan Frabutt mailto:alanf@izzy.net disclaimer: I don't speak for my employer(s), etc...
From: lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (Jim LeBay) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: tn3270 keyboard mapping on NeXTStep Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software Date: 3 Sep 1996 16:10:51 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: inet Message-ID: <50hlab$v7e@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960902163055.25222B-100000@cis> Chris Barnes (cbarnes@cis.tamu.edu) wrote: > I have tn3270 installed on my NeXT (and it works), but the keyboard > mapping is,,,, well,,,, I'll be polite and say it leaves alot to be > desired. For example, the arrow keys are not mapped, I *still* don't > know where PA1 is, etc. > > Does anyone have a good keymap set, or even just a set of instructions > of how to build a keymap file (and info on where it goes). > > Any assistance would be appreciated Here's one I created several years ago for my old NeXTstation, with a little help from Scott Hess (author of Stuart and Terminal). I don't use tn3270 much anymore, so it has not been updated for newer keyboards. Save it in ~/.map3270, or modify /etc/map3270. You should enable the VT100 keypad emulation in Terminal. A few of the keypad codes were "broken" in Terminal in NS3.1, but you can use the 3.0 Terminal.app under later NS versions. For more details, look at "man map3270". ------- Jim LeBay (517) 355-4500 x143 353-9847 (FAX) Computer Laboratory lebay@pilot.msu.edu PGP key available Michigan State University http://mercury.cl.msu.edu/~lebay/ ---------- They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin
# /etc/map3270 # # this file contains mappings between characters entered from the # keyboard, and 3270 keys, for use by programs (like tn3270) doing # 3270 emulation from unix. # # inside the single quotes, a caret ("^") introduces a control character # sequence (rub out = ^?, by the way). also inside the single quotes, # a backslash ('\') introduces an escaped character. Also, \n, \r, \t, # are all as in c, and \E is another way of representing escape. # # NOTE that while we are defining lots of function, much of that # function (ie: local editing keys) may not yet be available from # tn3270. avt | vt100 | vt100nam | vt220 | vt125 | vt102 | xterm { # This is the keypad mapping in "VT100 keypad emulation mode" under # either Terminal or Stuart on a NeXTstation computer. # # +--------+--------+--------+--------+ # | ~` | |= | \/ | * | # | \EOP | \EOQ | \EOR | \EOS | <-these 4 changed in NS3.1 # | (pf10) | (pf11) | (pf12) | | # +--------+--------+--------+--------+ # | 7 | 8 | 9 | - | # | \EOw | \EOx | \EOy | \EOm | # | (pf7) | (pf8) | (pf9) | (home) | # +--------+--------+--------+--------+ # | 4 | 5 | 6 | + | # | \EOt | \EOu | \EOv | \EOl | # | (pf4) | (pf5) | (pf6) | (nl) | # +--------+--------+--------+--------+ # | 1 | 2 | 3 | | # | \EOq | \EOr | \EOs | Enter | # | (pf1) | (pf2) | (pf3) | | # +--------+--------+--------+ \EOM | # | 0 | . | | # | \EOp | \EOn | (clear)| # | (insert) | (del) | | # +-----------------+--------+--------+ enter = '^m'; clear = '^z' | '\EOM'; nl = '^n' | '\EOl'; tab = '^i' | '\t'; btab = '^b' | '\E\t' | '^y'; left = '^h' | '\EOD' | '\E[D' | '^?'; right = '^l' | '\EOC' | '\E[C'; up = '^k' | '\EOA' | '\E[A'; down = '^j' | '\EOB' | '\E[B'; home = '\EOm'; delete = '^d' | '\EOn'; eeof = '^e'; einp = '^w'; insrt = '^ ' | '\EOp'; # pf keys pfk1 = '\EOq' | '\E1'; pfk2 = '\EOr' | '\E2'; pfk3 = '\EOs' | '\E3'; pfk4 = '\EOt' | '\E4'; pfk5 = '\EOu' | '\E5'; pfk6 = '\EOv' | '\E6'; pfk7 = '\EOw' | '\E7'; pfk8 = '\EOx' | '\E8'; pfk9 = '\EOy' | '\E9'; pfk10 = '\EOP' | '\E0'; pfk11 = '\EOQ' | '\E-'; pfk12 = '\EOR' | '\E='; pfk13 = '\E\EOq' | '\E!' | '^f13'; pfk14 = '\E\EOr' | '\E@' | '^f14'; pfk15 = '\E\EOs' | '\E#' | '^f15'; pfk16 = '\E\EOt' | '\E$' | '^f16'; pfk17 = '\E\EOu' | '\E%' | '^f17'; pfk18 = '\E\EOv' | '\E\^'| '^f18'; pfk19 = '\E\EOw' | '\E&' | '^f19'; pfk20 = '\E\EOx' | '\E*' | '^f20'; pfk21 = '\E\EOy' | '\E(' | '^f21'; pfk22 = '\E\EOP' | '\E)' | '^f22'; pfk23 = '\E\EOQ' | '\E_' | '^f23'; pfk24 = '\E\EOR' | '\E+' | '^f24'; # program attention keys pa1 = '^p1'; pa2 = '^p2'; pa3 = '^p3'; # local control keys reset = '^t'; # well, there is a little confusion here... flinp = '^x'; reshow = '^v'; # redisplay screen escape = '^c'; # escape to telnet command mode master_reset = '^g'; # local editing keys settab = '\E;'; deltab = '\E\''; clrtab = '\E:'; setmrg = '\E,'; sethom = '\E.'; coltab = '\E\E[B'; colbak = '\E\E[A'; indent = '\E\E[C'; undent = '\E\E[D';
From: don@misckit.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Date: 3 Sep 1996 17:14:18 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <50hp1a$32c@news.xmission.com> References: <504sut$d1t@jake.esu.edu> <505u4n$fsc@news.xmission.com> <5071pg$hik@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <Em_7=Xu00iWX42y6Br@andrew.cmu.edu> <50clfp$fsc@news.xmission.com> <jbf-ya023060040309960347050001@news.tiac.net> jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) wrote: > In article <50clfp$fsc@news.xmission.com>, don@misckit.com wrote: > > On my 64MB Pentium Pro, it doesn't matter. That machine is fast > > enough that OPENSTEP runs just fine for me > > (snip) > > Last time I checked, people seemed to feel that Pentiums didn't offer > much real speedup over the Turbos. It would be interesting to know > what sort of Pentium chip speed is needed to beat a Turbo under 3.3 and > 4.0. And, yes, I know it depends on all sorts of things, but roughly? Look at the benchmark statistics at: http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniPentiumProDriver/Performance.html My particular system gets an NXBench score a bit over 5 when running 4.0 with that driver installed, if I remember correctly. (I've got a Matrox Millenium with 4MB running at 1600x1200 72hz 444/16 on an Intel Venus VS440FX 200MHz Pentium Pro Motherboard.) That is really, really fast. After working on a Turbo Color for so long, it simply feels amazing to me! It is a truly impressive bit of hardware, and well worthy of running OPENSTEP. :-) So how fast does it have to be? Well, one of my friends has been quite happy with his P90. A P90 with good, fast video and SCSI cards will definitely feel as good or better than a Turbo station. And, of course, faster is always better... Given the costs of these various systems, frankly, I get the impression that you might as well just go with the Pentium Pro if you can afford it. They really aren't that much more expensive than the Pentiums (on my system, most of the cost went into RAM, video, disk, and monitor), and on most of the price sheets I've seen the Pro is cheaper than the Pentium at 200 MHz! Of course, a low end Pentium (get a 90 or 133) is dirt cheap nowadays, so it is a decent option for the tight budget. -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Date: 3 Sep 1996 20:59:51 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <50i687$qnb@news.digifix.com> References: <504sut$d1t@jake.esu.edu> <505u4n$fsc@news.xmission.com> <5071pg$hik@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <Em_7=Xu00iWX42y6Br@andrew.cmu.edu> <50clfp$fsc@news.xmission.com> <jbf-ya023060040309960347050001@news.tiac.net> In-Reply-To: <jbf-ya023060040309960347050001@news.tiac.net> On 09/02/96, James B. Frazer wrote: >In article <50clfp$fsc@news.xmission.com>, don@misckit.com wrote: > >> A couple of quick notes on this thread... >> >> At any rate, I still submit that many of the problems I've seen >> with speed on my Turbo Color station are due to paging. > >(snip) > >> On my 64MB Pentium Pro, it doesn't matter. That machine is fast >> enough that OPENSTEP runs just fine for me > >(snip) > >Last time I checked, people seemed to feel that Pentiums didn't offer >much real speedup over the Turbos. It would be interesting to know >what sort of Pentium chip speed is needed to beat a Turbo under 3.3 and >4.0. And, yes, I know it depends on all sorts of things, but roughly? > I'm running on a 133MHz Pentium after years on a Turbo. It feels significantly faster, and compiles are much much faster. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: Celestial Avatar <weinberg@ic.sunysb.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OS Help Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:34:46 -0400 Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960903153210.15854B-100000@csws13.ic.sunysb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can I and is it advisable to run openstep over solaris on an intel P6 system? Thanks ****************************************************************************** ****************************************************************************** High-Tech and On-line Weinberg@ic.sunysb.edu ****************************************************************************** ******************************************************************************
From: don@misckit.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Date: 3 Sep 1996 21:26:51 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <50i7qr$k0m@news.xmission.com> References: <504sut$d1t@jake.esu.edu> <505u4n$fsc@news.xmission.com> <5071pg$hik@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <Em_7=Xu00iWX42y6Br@andrew.cmu.edu> <50clfp$fsc@news.xmission.com> <jbf-ya023060040309960347050001@news.tiac.net> <50hp1a$32c@news.xmission.com> I wrote: > On my 64MB Pentium Pro, it doesn't matter. That machine is fast > enough that OPENSTEP runs just fine for me And then Tom M. Blenko wrote to me: > If you'd like to become even more famous and popular (rich comes > later), you could post a specification for your (fast) system! Well, I kind of already posted the details elsewhere, it was either in the hardware group or in the advocacy thread about how you can build a usable NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP system for well under $6k US. My system actually did have a cost near $6k, but I went all out to put together a killer system. A system that costs less than half as much would still run NEXTSTEP quite well, and at the end, I'll suggest ideas on how to slash the cost. I just wanted to do better than "quite well". This machine is definitely much more than the baseline you'd need to run OPENSTEP comfortably. I'll try to be real specific this time... :-) Intel Pentium Pro 200, PC Power & Cooling CPU Fan Intel Venus VS440FX 200MHz Pentium Pro Motherboard (NOT the model with USB and onboard sound) 2 8x32 32MB 72 Pin EDO SIMMs (64MB RAM total) Matrox Millenium PCI with 4MB VRAM PC Power & Cooling Mini Personal ATX Case w/250W power supply Adaptec 2940UW PCI Ultra/Wide SCSI controller Quantum Atlas 4 GB wide SCSI hard drive Teac 3.5" 1.44MB floppy drive Logitech MouseMan PS2 mouse Microsoft Keyboard US Robotics Courier 28.8 External modem Toshiba 5402B 4X IDE CDROM Cogent PCI Combo Ethernet card Nanao F2-21 21" monitor Altec Lansing ACS-31 speakers (2 spkrs plus subwoofer) Ensoniq Soundscape Elite (you will need to buy a special driver for NEXTSTEP--cost $10) I think that's all of it! Pricewise, expect to approximately: $1000 for the CPU/motherboard/fan $1800 for a high quality 21" monitor $1000 for a 4GB SCSI drive (+/- $200 or more depending upon which drive) $ 380 for the 4MB Millenium $ 390 for 64MB EDO RAM (that's at $195/SIMM) $ 300 for the Courier modem $ 250 for the SCSI controller $ 200 for the case and power supply $ 175 for the sound card and driver $ 125 for the mouse, keyboard, and floppy drive $ 100 for the speakers $ 100 for the Cogent ethernet card $ 60 for the CDROM (Those estimates are all higher than what I paid.) This system was actually around $5500 before tax; you can probably do better if you hunt around. I didn't have the time for that, and this was a pretty reasonable price, plus I didn't have to piece it together myself. The guy I had build the machine is Sammy at Universal Systems, Inc., 1356 E. 3300S., Salt Lake City, UT, 84106, 801-484-9151. He was very helpful, and I'm quite happy with the machine. (I have no other affiliation with them other than being a satisfied customer.) Also, I got the Soundscape direct from Ensoniq and got the speakers from another source. Installing OPENSTEP was tricky only in that you have to load the Adaptec driver when it asks for the CDROM's driver and then load the EIDE driver when it asks for the hard drive's driver. This is backwards...but it is what you have to do to make it work. Other than that quirk, everything installs perfectly normally, no problems whatsoever. (You may have a few troubles getting the Ensoniq card to work right under Win95--conflicts, etc.--but it was fairly easy to get it working. And I'm a Win95 dunce, IMHO.) Now, if you want to make the system even better, add more RAM, add more VRAM, get a Seagate drive instead of a Quantum, upgrade the Adaptec to a caching DPT SCSI controller (haven't tried this, but it should really scream), and get an 8x CDROM. Note that the SCSI hardware I have is quite acceptable. Faster is possible, but I'm happy with it and it didn't cost me too much, comparatively. I suppose you could also downgrade if necessary. In that case, get a smaller monitor, then move from SCSI hard drives to EIDE (you can get 3GB drives now). You can get an internal modem, and, if you must, downgrade the video card (or get one with only 2MB VRAM). You could also get a cheaper case; I spent a little more for a nice case. There are also cheaper mice and keyboards out there. As it is, though, it makes a killer system! Note that with my proposed cost reducers, you could probably still get a Pentium Pro system up and running with a 17" monitor and all EIDE drives for well under $3500--probably under $3k! Some may skip the sound/speakers, ethernet, and/or the modem. It really depends upon how much you want to spend and which components you want to have in the box. Finally, again, I'd stress that a Pentium Pro is not a requirement to run OPENSTEP. A P90 can still do a good job of it...though I would still consider upping the RAM to 64MB if you can do it, especially with RAM so cheap right now. It really does make a difference! Hope that helps, or at least answers the questions of the more curious folks out there. -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep DPS "Terminal" Date: 3 Sep 1996 20:39:00 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <50i514$ju5@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <50hnkc$o90@inet-prime.comshare.com> alanf@izzy.net wrote: > I'd be amazed if this idea hasn't been pursued in detail before, > but I thought I'd offer it up so there'd be something besides > crosspostings to read... > > The computer industry revisits the idea of specialized low-end > machines cyclically; sometimes it's a good idea, sometimes not. > It's being revisited now in a number of forms (Network Computers, > etc). > > How would a Display PostScript "Terminal" play out? This has come up several times. Most of the time the feeling has been that it's not worth the trouble. By the time you put together a decent "DPS Terminal", you might as well spend a little more and have a complete machine. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thomas Katzlberger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Java: guavac & kaffe compiled BUT: Date: 3 Sep 1996 22:15:53 GMT Organization: a white NeXT Message-ID: <50iamp$e9d@news.vanderbilt.edu> Hi all! Ok I finally managed to compile guavac and kaffe. kaffe was a tricky thing but foolowing these steps may help: 1. run configure 2. edit config.h copy to the end of config.h (from config.h.in) /* Hacks to configure NeXT */ #if defined(NeXT) #undef HAVE_SYS_UTSNAME_H /* this line was edited by configure unintentionally */ #define HAVE_DYN_UNDERSTORE 1 #endif 3. delete ## in kaffevm/jit/funcs.c (wait for error) 4. in Makefile delete -lm from the line LIBS = -lm 5. Don't run make but gmake !! I used gcc-2.7.2 Then I tried to compile HelloWorld: --- import java.lang.*; class Main { public static void main(String argv[]) { System.out.println("Hello World"); } } --- garfield> guavac test2 Compilation Successful: 1 classes or interfaces found: * Main garfield> kaffe Main Failed to locate native function: java/io/FileDescriptor.initSystemFD(Ljava/io/FileDescriptor;I)Ljava/io/FileDescriptor; Failed to catch exception ... aborting: java/lang/UnsatisfiedLinkError BTW: if I use the guavac classes kaffe deadlocks or crashes. Using the kaffe classes (kaffe...sun.tar.gz or so at the kaffe ftp) gives the result above. Any other imports I tried didn't help. Possibly I have to crank up gdb and investigate in kaffe, but any other hints are appreciated. Cat. -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ Thomas Katzlberger _/_/ _/_/ katzlbt@vuse.vanderbilt.edu _/_/ _/_/ @aWhiteNeXT.called.garfield _/_/ _/_/ http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~katzlbt/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ "You can tune a file system, but you can't tune a fish." _/_/ _/_/ UNIX man page for tunefs. _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
From: tjk (Timothy Kordas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Installing bundles (was Re: cryptor bundle & Mail.app 3.3) Date: 4 Sep 1996 00:16:19 GMT Organization: Connections.com, Inc. Message-ID: <50ihoj$k2j@marcy.concom.com> References: <1996Aug20.162207.84051@cc.usu.edu> <1996Aug25.172500.1204@gamelan.shnet.org> Cc: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org Thomas Funke wrote: [Re: the cryptor bundle] > This is not true. The latest version works in ~/LocalLibary or > /LocalLibrary. No need anymore to patch Mail.app. Recently I've been trying to get a bunch of bundles to work with Mail.app. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I've put the bundles in /Library/Mail, ~/Library/Mail, /LocalLibrary. In particular I've been trying to get the EnhanceMail.bundle to work...but having failed that I tried to get ANY Mail.app bundles to work, and failed again. I'm not doing anything strange, is there something wrong with my Mail.app ? (Mail 3.3 v112.1). I'm a fairly new NeXT user, but I've worked a lot with Unix. thanks in advance. -Tim -- Timothy J. Kordas | "Dare we abandon morality for effectiveness, or | would that be too radical to mention?" tjk@hypercon.com | -- Erich Schwarz (regarding drug legalization)
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Date: 4 Sep 1996 00:24:07 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <50ii77$r8j@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <504sut$d1t@jake.esu.edu> <505u4n$fsc@news.xmission.com> <5071pg$hik@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <Em_7=Xu00iWX42y6Br@andrew.cmu.edu> <50clfp$fsc@news.xmission.com> <jbf-ya023060040309960347050001@news.tiac.net> jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) wrote: > Last time I checked, people seemed to feel that Pentiums didn't > offer much real speedup over the Turbos. It would be interesting > to know what sort of Pentium chip speed is needed to beat a Turbo > under 3.3 and 4.0. And, yes, I know it depends on all sorts of > things, but roughly? When I got my 60 MHz Pentium with a PCI bus, I felt that it was roughly comparable to my non-Turbo machine. Faster in some ways, slower in others. Of course, Pentiums are considerably faster than 60 MHz now. I imagine a 120 MHz pentium would have to beat a turbo, and if you went for a 200 MHZ pentium pro you'd have the basis for a really screaming machine... --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Date: 4 Sep 1996 00:38:44 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <50ij2k$r8j@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <504sut$d1t@jake.esu.edu> <505u4n$fsc@news.xmission.com> <50b99j$7d5@portal.gmu.edu> tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) wrote: > I'm running it on mono black h/w, and I am very happy with it. > It is plenty fast enough (frankly the screen writing actualy is > faster than my color/intel/3.3 stuff at work), I've run it a little on a 32meg greyscale NeXTstation (non-Turbo). From the sound of the disk I'd guess that it must be paging more, particularly at application startup. Once an application was started, however, the performance seems quite reasonable. I'd say that application startup seems slower than NS-3.3, but I couldn't guess whether applications are slower after they have started. Note that I haven't used it a lot. Maybe a few hours worth. Note that I haven't used any of the new developer stuff. > I've had to look hard at allot of the OS changes, and aside from > allot of re-engineering for OpenStep, there's been a goodly amount > of changes to the base unix stuff. All for the better I might > add. it's MUCH more mature of a unix, and has more/better > utilities avalible too. And one of the most noticable and cool > changes to it the documentation on stuff is FAR, FAR better. > imho it went from being 'average' to being 'very good'. This is > a pretty big issue if you're not just doing OpenStep programming, > & people should take it into account. This is encouraging to hear (although, again, I haven't had time to check into these things myself). > Personaly, I'd very much reccomend anyone with black hardware go > ahead and upgrade from ANY of the older releases. I'm not sure I'd say that yet. I don't think I'd recommend against it, but it's always good to have a few more people try out things before rushing into a new system... :-) I do feel better about it now that I've run it a little, than I did based on some of the earlier comments about it. I'm sure it would be nice to have more than 32 meg of RAM to run it in, but still it doesn't seem all that bad so far. And of course the RAM requirements would be more significant for Color NeXTstations. For greyscale NeXTstations it seems fine. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Andre LALONDE <tralala@mlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Netscape Nav. for NextStep ?? Date: 4 Sep 1996 01:21:20 GMT Organization: Mlink Internet, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <50ilig$1nq@neon.Mlink.NET> References: <4vdvfi$gbh@tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca> <4velkj$nk2@panix2.panix.com> <4vfapm$f5f@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> <4vjkn9$5ut@usc.edu> In-Reply-To: <4vjkn9$5ut@usc.edu> On 08/22/96, Matthew N. Reichman wrote: >In <4vfapm$f5f@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> Kin Hung Au wrote: >> In article <4velkj$nk2@panix2.panix.com>, >> Gita Enders <genders@panix.com> wrote: >> >Marc Colella (marc@netcom.ca) wrote: >> > >> >: Im new to NextStep OS, is there a compatable version of Netscape >> >: Navigator for this OS? >> > >> >Who cares? Use OmniWeb. >> >> I care!!!! Non-profit institution and academic institution use netscape >> for free. But, OmniWeb charges us $49 per copy!!!! > > >That's news to me. I've been using OW for free. Who's charging you $49.00? If >that's because you're getting it off the Lighthouse CD, then why not just >pick it up off the net instead? > >-- >Be well, > >Matthew Reichman >reichman@usc.edu >USC-CNTV >NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k >NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome > >============================================================= == >PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" >------------------------------------------------------------- -- >Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/ > > ============================= Correction: The first license of OmniWeb is free. Subsequent copies are $49/each. Which, in my opinion, is a bargain. - Andre www.mlink.net/~tralala/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dx5y2E.Lvn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:37:26 GMT References: <504sut$d1t@jake.esu.edu> <505u4n$fsc@news.xmission.com> <50b99j$7d5@portal.gmu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <50b99j$7d5@portal.gmu.edu>, Tim <tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu> wrote: > >Personaly, I'd very much reccomend anyone with black hardware >go ahead and upgrade from ANY of the older releases. > OK. So people with mono black hardware like it. People with Color black hardware think it's OK, but a little slow. Now, what about Dimension machines? Anyone with a configuration close to 32Mb on the main board and 36Mb on the ND tried it? -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: "Duncan Idaho" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Asking a favor Date: 4 Sep 1996 03:01:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bb99ca$41ed87f0$871443a4@lullaby> References: <01bb9798$69b121e0$331543a4@lullaby> <50g5ql$11g@usenet.rpi.edu> Actually, it's for personal use.
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep DPS "Terminal" Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:31:16 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <Dx7EK5.Ezx@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <50i514$ju5@usenet.rpi.edu> In article <50i514$ju5@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: > alanf@izzy.net wrote: > This has come up several times. Most of the time the feeling > has been that it's not worth the trouble. By the time you > put together a decent "DPS Terminal", you might as well spend > a little more and have a complete machine. As an interesting note though, Black hardware probably comes pretty close to everyones idea of what they'd like from a DPS terminal (big hi-res screen, fast graphics performance, nice keyboard, looks cool etc). Upgrading to a PC, the biggest cost is getting a monitor thats acceptable. Has anyone looked seriously at running a black machine as a DPS term? I've dabled a couple of times (take login.app out of ttys, run Workspace -NXHost) but it doesn't work! I'm prety sure it's doable, without TOO much effort, but I've never had suitable incentive to figure it out completly. $an
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 22:04:19 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <50kug5$66i@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <504sut$d1t@jake.esu.edu> <505u4n$fsc@news.xmission.com> <50b99j$7d5@portal.gmu.edu> <Dx5y2E.Lvn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > OK. So people with mono black hardware like it. People with Color black >hardware think it's OK, but a little slow. > Now, what about Dimension machines? Anyone with a configuration close to >32Mb on the main board and 36Mb on the ND tried it? Well, I run a NeXTdimension 68040 Cube as my main machine, with 24 Mb on the 68040, and currently 16 Mb on the ND. I think 4.0 runs OK on this platform. Not much different form 3.3 when running 3.x apps. The ND pages less than under 3.3. Of course, some folks would say I'm prejudiced on the subject... Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: gcl@.sojourn.com (Gary C. Lalim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need Newsreader ASAP Date: 5 Sep 1996 01:47:10 GMT Organization: Sojourn Systems, Lansing, MI (USA) Message-ID: <50lbeu$6me@tkhut.sojourn.com> References: <50land$5kd@tkhut.sojourn.com> In-Reply-To: <50land$5kd@tkhut.sojourn.com> On 09/04/96, gcl wrote: > >My lame ISP is cutting shell access (becasuse they get hacked too >much) and I won't have access to tin there anymore.. >(hey, I like tin 8-). > >I am interested in any ideas for a newsreader, even if I have >to buy it... > >I have tried and am trying again, NewsGrazer. Ooops... I meant NewsFlash, is the one I'm testing (and using now, and it's pretty cool) Gary -- __________________________________________________________________ gcl@sojourn.com NeXTmail prefered Founder of the NeXTstep for Intel Processors HomeBrew Mailing List Proud Owner of NeXTcube's #0143 and #0437 also! __________________________________________________________________
From: gcl@sojourn.com (gcl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need Newsreader ASAP Date: 5 Sep 1996 01:34:37 GMT Organization: Sojourn Systems, Lansing, MI (USA) Message-ID: <50land$5kd@tkhut.sojourn.com> My lame ISP is cutting shell access (becasuse they get hacked too much) and I won't have access to tin there anymore.. (hey, I like tin 8-). I am interested in any ideas for a newsreader, even if I have to buy it... I have tried and am trying again, NewsGrazer. Thanks for your help. I can resost a summery of all info that is emailed to me. Gary -- ________________________________________________________________ gcl@mail.sojourn.com NeXTmail/LipService is prefered Founder: The NeXTstep for Intel Processors HomeBrew Mailing List Owner: Network with a NeXT '040 Cube #4173 running NeXTstep v3.3 and a Intel i486dx2-66 running NeXTstep for Intel v3.3 _________________________________________________________________
From: root@whopper.MU.missouri.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Alexandra performance problems Date: 2 Sep 1996 01:14:59 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Message-ID: <50dcej$1pfk@news.missouri.edu> I'm having some problems with Alex~ When it starts up, it downloads all the active newsgroups everytime. Which means startup takes about ten minutes. Also, It seems very slow with fetching two or three articles. I'm connected at 28.8, and I've never had speed problems with Usenet in the past. Is there something that I should know about Alexandra. Thanks Michael Roberts c671143@showme.missouri.edu NeXTMail capable
From: reichert@rhythmegg (Charles Reichert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: something like web talk? Date: 5 Sep 1996 02:29:47 GMT Organization: Alberta Research Council Message-ID: <50ldur$820@mercury.arc.ab.ca> Is there something like webtalk avaiable for next?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Need Newsreader ASAP Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960904230911.6830A-100000@charisma> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:19:24 -0400 References: <50land$5kd@tkhut.sojourn.com> <50lbeu$6me@tkhut.sojourn.com> To: gcl@sojourn.com In-Reply-To: <50lbeu$6me@tkhut.sojourn.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [ Hey Gary!! Fix your 'From: ' line.... or add a reply-to! Thanks] Not to toot my own Webpage, but checkout: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/#NEWS That has links to all the NeXTStep newsreaders I know about. Ooops.... the link to RadicalNews is broken because they have a newer version..... Ok, it's fixed now... As I was saying, it has links to all the NeXTStep newsreaders I know about, and links to their READMEs, so you can jump right to them and see what features they have. Of course, being weird, I like PINE, but that's another story. Oh yes, and my ISP just knocked out shell access too.... People trying to hack the password file ON THE ISP's server.... duh.... TjL -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Email Auto-Responder: for PGP key, use SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey for NeXT info, use SUBJECT: send-ascii info Also, see: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next LOOKING FOR NS 3.3 (m68k) User/Dev (cheap ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu (bryce) Subject: greek wordprocessing Message-ID: <Dx91H8.83z@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:43:56 GMT I need a full Greek font (a couple would be nice) mapped to the keyboard in what i think is called "beta-greek" format, like the sgreek font in windows, for the NeXT. yes, not a usual request, but neccessary... if there is a better complete wordprocessing solution on the NeXT, i'm all ears to that, too... bryce -- ()-() Bryce B. Sady (o o) http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/bbsady /\o/\ Classical Studies, the College, the University of Chicago
From: Constantin Szallies <szallies@energotec.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Alexandra performance problems Date: 5 Sep 1996 08:53:22 GMT Organization: Tech Net GmbH Message-ID: <50m4e2$3m7@ddfservb.technet.net> References: <50dcej$1pfk@news.missouri.edu> root@whopper.MU.missouri.edu (Operator) wrote: >I'm having some problems with Alex~ When it starts up, it downloads all >the active newsgroups everytime. To prevent this, check "Slow link" in the nntp server panel. See "Notes -- Performance Tuning" in the help panel. >Also, It seems very slow with fetching two or three articles. >I'm connected at 28.8, and I've never had speed problems with Usenet in the >past. Is there something that I should know about Alexandra. Thanks If you select a newgroup, Alexandra fetches all articles in the group -- if there are read or not. There's a undocumented possibility to prevent this: dwrite Alexandra PrivateExpire YES dwrite Alexandra PrivateExpireRelativOffset 20 dwrite Alexandra PrivateExpireAbsoluteOffset 90 Alexandra will fetch 20 per cent of all allready read articles but at least 90 of them :-) -- Constantin Szallies, Energotec GmbH szallies@energotec.de 49211-9144018
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Alexandra performance problems Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960905111011.19820B-100000@charisma> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:18:03 -0400 References: <50dcej$1pfk@news.missouri.edu> To: c671143@showme.missouri.edu In-Reply-To: <50dcej$1pfk@news.missouri.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [ Michael -- Check your 'from:' line, it showed as: "root@whopper.MU.missouri.edu" which doesn't exist as a hostname ] Do you have the 8 Feb 1996 version? (check info panel) On the SERVER panel (menu: Server/Open...) make sure you have SLOW LINK checked off I've also got this set, don't know if it helps: Alexandra CheckForNewNewsOnActivation NO It works fine for me over a 28.8 modem. If you have more problems, let me know and I'll send you the rest of my dwrites.... I assume the problem is not having the "SLOW LINK" checked. TjL -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Email Auto-Responder: for PGP key, use SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey for NeXT info, use SUBJECT: send-ascii info Also, see: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next LOOKING FOR NS 3.3 (m68k) User/Dev (cheap ;-) On 2 Sep 1996, Operator wrote: > I'm having some problems with Alex~ When it starts up, it downloads all > the active newsgroups everytime. Which means startup takes about ten > minutes. Also, It seems very slow with fetching two or three articles. > I'm connected at 28.8, and I've never had speed problems with Usenet in the > past. Is there something that I should know about Alexandra. Thanks > > Michael Roberts > c671143@showme.missouri.edu > NeXTMail capable > > >
From: edx@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: prman, QuickRenderman on OPENSTEP? Message-ID: <1996Sep5.115408.84576@cc.usu.edu> Date: 5 Sep 96 11:54:08 MDT Organization: Utah State University I know that OPENSTEP no longer comes bundled with the 3DKit, but I haven't heard whether it is still bundled with prman or QuickRenderman. If not, can I somehow install these from my 3.3 CD so I can continue development on my code which relies on them? Thanks. - HRC -
From: hsla@irene.mit.edu (LA, HOSEONG) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: No NeXTeX in OS4.0? Date: 5 Sep 1996 17:39 EST Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <5SEP199617392683@irene.mit.edu> References: <5037be$q5e@news.tamu.edu> <Dwx2px.9En@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.50 Does anybody know if I can download any recent NeXTTeX for Intel from somewhere? I've also heard that NeXTTeX2000 project is under way, does this mean NeXTTeX is now in the public domain? If so, where is the archive located? Please post the info if anybody knows. hs
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: Versions of NeXTSTEP 3.2 (NIHS/N/I/H/S,user/dev,academ/comm) ? Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 17:57:06 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023060040509961757060001@news.tiac.net> References: <509tgf$f3e@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <50ed4f$fu6@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <50ed4f$fu6@nexusgate.tng.oche.de>, michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) wrote: > nickel@widget.ecn.purdue.edu (David A Nickel) wrote: (snip) > > is "user" a subset of "developer" or is "user" plus "developer" > > a complete system? > > the developer version is user + development kit. Sorry, but the developer CD requires that you first install from a user CD for your system. The developer CD is "fat", i.e., it contains versions for all supported processors. The user CD is "thin", i.e. there are different user CDs for NeXT and Intel. Barney
From: telfeyan@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Roland Telfeyan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Unix mail vs. NeXTMail Date: 5 Sep 1996 22:15:30 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Message-ID: <50nje2$5at@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <4n0sev$a5p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <DrI7Mu.1In@burgond.remcomp.fr> <4ofd1i$i0i@tesla.visgen.com> Bruce Walker (bmw@tesla.visgen.com) wrote: : This causes problems if you alias "mail" to "elm" as we do around : here. Elm inserts extra headers into the mbox. That screws up : Mail.app royally because it maintains a list of pointers into mbox : in table_of_contents. The fix is to delete that file (eg: rm : ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/table_of_contents) and restart Mail.app. : It will automatically rebuild the TOC file. You *only* have to close the mailbox window and open it again. You do *not* have to delete any file or quit Mail. Roland
From: Chris Barnes <cbarnes@cis.tamu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb not displaying graphics Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:21:05 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960905171632.10842C-100000@cis> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just reinstalled NeXTStep on this machine, and have OmniWeb going ok, but it's not displaying *any* kind of graphics. What is required to be able to display these? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Barnes (409) 846-3273 (home) chris-barnes@tamu.edu (409) 845-8300 (work) http://helper.tamu.edu/STAFF/cbarnes/
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniWeb not displaying graphics Date: 5 Sep 1996 23:10:03 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <50nmkb$i58@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960905171632.10842C-100000@cis> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960905171632.10842C-100000@cis> On 09/06/96, Chris Barnes wrote: > I just reinstalled NeXTStep on this machine, and have OmniWeb going ok, > but it's not displaying *any* kind of graphics. What is required to be > able to display these? > I presume you have the latest version of OmniWeb (2.1 -- available from http://www.lighthouse.com/ )? This has built-in image conversion, and so I'd guess you simply have the "display images" preference switched off. Alternatively, you may be using an old (pre 2.0) version of OmniWeb, which relied on an image filter service such as OmniImageFilter to do the image conversions. If this is the case, upgrade your version of OmniWeb (one copy free per network)... unless you're using a pre 3.2 version of NEXTSTEP in which case I think you won't be able to run it; if this is the case grab a copy of OmniImageFilter. If you're not the only person using OmniWeb and run into licensing problems, you might consider buying the Lighthouse Academic CD ($99 for a wealth of excellent apps including OmniWeb), else if that's too much choose between OmniWeb for $49 or so, and NetSurfer http://www.netsurfer.com/ for about the same. I hope that made sense?! Best wishes, mmalc. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Unix mail vs. NeXTMail Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960905234225.2956A-100000@charisma> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:50:53 -0400 References: <4n0sev$a5p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <DrI7Mu.1In@burgond.remcomp.fr> <4ofd1i$i0i@tesla.visgen.com> <50nje2$5at@news.eecs.umich.edu> To: bmw@tesla.visgen.com In-Reply-To: <50nje2$5at@news.eecs.umich.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Bruce Walker (bmw@tesla.visgen.com) wrote: > : This causes problems if you alias "mail" to "elm" as we do around > : here. Elm inserts extra headers into the mbox. That screws up > : Mail.app royally because it maintains a list of pointers into mbox > : in table_of_contents. The fix is to delete that file (eg: rm > : ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/table_of_contents) and restart Mail.app. > : It will automatically rebuild the TOC file. The real solution, of course, is to use pine instead of elm (or maple ;-) You can link the 'mbox' files in the .mbox wrapper to ~/mail and use them with pine without any problem. If you delete or add a message, then Mail.app will rebuild the TOC, but if you just want to read your mail it works just fine.... In fact, someone ;-) wrote a little script which will automatically find your NeXT Mail.app .mboxes and link them to a pine directory... You can get this script by sending me email with the SUBJECT: send-ascii mbox2pine.sh or send-mime mbox2pine.sh or send-nextmail mbox2pine.sh Smart people can figure out what format you'll get based on which SUBJECT line you choose... TjL -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Email Auto-Responder: for PGP key, use SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey for NeXT info, use SUBJECT: send-ascii info Also, see: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next LOOKING FOR NS 3.3 (m68k) User/Dev (cheap ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: OmniWeb not displaying graphics Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960905235353.2956B-100000@charisma> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:58:23 -0400 References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960905171632.10842C-100000@cis> To: Chris Barnes <cbarnes@tamu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960905171632.10842C-100000@cis> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I believe these are what you want: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/OmniImage-3.2.1.pkg.tar ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Graphics/viewer/ImageViewer.0.9k.NIHS.b.tar.gz TjL ps -- oh, and make sure you have inline fetching turned on... -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Email Auto-Responder: for PGP key, use SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey for NeXT info, use SUBJECT: send-ascii info Also, see: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next LOOKING FOR NS 3.3 (m68k) User/Dev (cheap ;-) On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Chris Barnes wrote: > I just reinstalled NeXTStep on this machine, and have OmniWeb going ok, > but it's not displaying *any* kind of graphics. What is required to be > able to display these? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Chris Barnes (409) 846-3273 (home) > chris-barnes@tamu.edu (409) 845-8300 (work) > http://helper.tamu.edu/STAFF/cbarnes/ > > > >
From: Constantin Szallies <szallies@energotec.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Alexandra performance problems Date: 6 Sep 1996 09:29:45 GMT Organization: Tech Net GmbH Message-ID: <50oqu9$kok@ddfservb.technet.net> References: <50dcej$1pfk@news.missouri.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.95.960905111011.19820B-100000@charisma> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> wrote: > [snip] >I've also got this set, don't know if it helps: > >Alexandra CheckForNewNewsOnActivation NO You can set this default more easily in the prefernce panel. Preferences/Genral: Check for new news on activation: This will make Alexandra check for new news in every subscribed newsgroup everytime the application is activated. The time required to do that is proprotional to the number of subscribed groups. If you are using a slow modem, Alexandra will "hang" if it's activated. This preference is enabled by default. Check for new news every x minutes: This does the same automatically every x minutes. -- Constantin Szallies, Energotec GmbH szallies@energotec.de 49211-9144018
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: prman, QuickRenderman on OPENSTEP? Date: 6 Sep 1996 09:05:19 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <50opgf$5dm@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <1996Sep5.115408.84576@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: > [...] but I haven't heard whether it is still bundled with prman or > QuickRenderman. OpenStep 4.0 comes still with prman and QuickRenderMan. So every old 3.3 application will run fine. > If not, can I somehow install these from my 3.3 > CD so I can continue development on my code which > relies on them? No. It seems not to be possible to continue development of 3.3 code with 3DKit on OpenStep. An OpenStep application uses the new framework mechanisms for dynamic linking with the system libraries. Because there is no 4.0 3DKit framework, a 4.0 application won't have access to the RenderMan functions in the old shared libraries. So we should still keep our 3.3 systems and wait for the MiscKit / Gnu3DKit package. Or has anybody found a way to dynamically link 3DKit methods or at least RenderMan Ri* functions with an OpenStep 4.0 Mach application? Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 Mail: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (MIME/NeXT accepted) WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: martin@rat.se (Martin Wennerberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: prman, QuickRenderman on OPENSTEP? Date: 6 Sep 1996 09:29:25 GMT Organization: Research & Trade AB Distribution: world Message-ID: <50oqtl$nv@baldwin.rat.se> References: <1996Sep5.115408.84576@cc.usu.edu> Keywords: prman In article <1996Sep5.115408.84576@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu writes: > I know that OPENSTEP no longer comes bundled with > the 3DKit, but I haven't heard whether it is still > bundled with prman or QuickRenderman. The rutimes are there, both the 3DKit runtimes and /usr/prman. The 3Dkit development environment will be available for free from the MiscKit folks. /Martin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dx9wvt.GFD@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:02:17 GMT References: <504sut$d1t@jake.esu.edu> <50b99j$7d5@portal.gmu.edu> <Dx5y2E.Lvn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <50kug5$66i@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <50kug5$66i@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net>, Mike Paquette <mpaque@pacbell.net> wrote: > >Well, I run a NeXTdimension 68040 Cube as my main machine, with 24 Mb >on the 68040, and currently 16 Mb on the ND. I think 4.0 runs OK on >this platform. Not much different form 3.3 when running 3.x apps. >The ND pages less than under 3.3. > How about as compared to 3.2? It sounds like skipping 3.3 may be a wise move. >Of course, some folks would say I'm prejudiced on the subject... > Never! :-) Of course, some would say the same for me... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Tom Gall <tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep DPS "Terminal" Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 13:22:28 -0500 Organization: IBM Message-ID: <32306BE3.167E@vnet.ibm.com> References: <50hnkc$o90@inet-prime.comshare.com> <50i514$ju5@usenet.rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Garance A Drosehn wrote: > > alanf@izzy.net wrote: > > I'd be amazed if this idea hasn't been pursued in detail before, > > but I thought I'd offer it up so there'd be something besides > > crosspostings to read... > > > > The computer industry revisits the idea of specialized low-end > > machines cyclically; sometimes it's a good idea, sometimes not. > > It's being revisited now in a number of forms (Network Computers, > > etc). > > > > How would a Display PostScript "Terminal" play out? > > This has come up several times. Most of the time the feeling > has been that it's not worth the trouble. By the time you > put together a decent "DPS Terminal", you might as well spend > a little more and have a complete machine. > Another way to think about this perhaps is with the variety of thin client terminals all supporting Java you might effectivly be getting it. There are 2d api's coming down the pipe for Java by Adobe that Sun is adding. At JavaOne I was talking to the Adobe folks and basically the remark was "It's basically Display Postscript". So perhaps in some strange way, you sorta may be getting what you are asking for in some sence. Of course the real thing would always be better... but what can you say, in a world ruled by Micro$oft products. -- Hakuna Matata! Tom import standard.disclaimer.*; |||| "Where's the ka-boom? There was Tom Gall - Java Guy ____ supposed to be an earth IBM Rochester \ /\ shattering ka-boom!" (w) tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com \__/_/ -- Marvin Martian (h) tgall@ibm.net ------
From: hans@hermes.louisville.edu (Hans Fiedler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: breaking in if locked out Date: 6 Sep 1996 14:58:02 -0400 Organization: University of Louisville, Louisville KY USA Message-ID: <50ps7r$2ln@hermes.louisville.edu> We've had a couple of next stations donated to us, but noone where they came from seems to know the passwords (evidently they've just sitting around for a while). Is there a way to force the boot to single-user, or some other mode where I can clear the passwords so we can get into them? I was hoping to get into them so we can use them for something other a neat (but large) set of bookends. -- Hans K. Fiedler Information Technology Communications Analyst Communications Services hans@hermes.louisville.edu University of Louisville (502)852-7427 Louisville, Ky. 40292
From: a9050756@unet.univie.ac.at () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: From: in Mail.app Date: 6 Sep 1996 20:28:37 GMT Organization: Vienna University, Austria Message-ID: <50q1hl$1l3k@www.univie.ac.at> Is there any way to set the From: Field in Mail.app 3.0? Best Regards, Michael Alexander Doctoral Student at the University of Vienna
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: breaking in if locked out Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960906175054.11988E-100000@charisma> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 17:53:42 -0400 References: <50ps7r$2ln@hermes.louisville.edu> To: Hans Fiedler <hans@hermes.louisville.edu> In-Reply-To: <50ps7r$2ln@hermes.louisville.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII when they begin to power-up, hold down both COMMAND keys and press the ~ (over the 7 on the KEYPAD) that will dump you to the ROM monitor. do "bsd-s" to boot to single user mode If it asks for a hardware password, remove the NeXTStation cover and remove the battery for a few minutes, replace and then try again. TjL ps -- when you get logged in, use 'nu -m' and modify the root password. Then logout, reboot, and login normally (as root). Run UserManager.app to setup/delete accounts. ps2 -- who is donating NeXTStations????? On 6 Sep 1996, Hans Fiedler wrote: > We've had a couple of next stations donated to us, but noone where they came > from seems to know the passwords (evidently they've just sitting around for a > while). Is there a way to force the boot to single-user, or some other mode > where I can clear the passwords so we can get into them? > > I was hoping to get into them so we can use them for something other a neat > (but large) set of bookends. > -- > Hans K. Fiedler Information Technology > Communications Analyst Communications Services > hans@hermes.louisville.edu University of Louisville > (502)852-7427 Louisville, Ky. 40292 > > >
From: jorr@math.unl.edu (John L. Orr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.java.setup Subject: Java on co-Xist Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 00:03:58 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <50qe1v$mr5@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> I am trying to view applets with the JDK appletviewer running on a SPARC Solaris 2.5 machine. The appletviewer works fine on the Solaris machine, but crashes when I try to view its output on a remote (NeXTStep) machine using co-Xist (an X client for NeXTStep). Has anyone had any experience with viewing Java applets in co-Xist, or any other NeXTStep-based client? Many thanks for any and all help, John L. Orr jorr@math.unl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: From: in Mail.app Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960906175436.11988G-100000@charisma> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 23:10:22 -0400 References: <50q1hl$1l3k@www.univie.ac.at> To: a9050756@unet.univie.ac.at In-Reply-To: <50q1hl$1l3k@www.univie.ac.at> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ick.... it has been a long time since I've done this, but.... it _can_ be done. (I'm assuming that you don't have access to the root account, who could do this for you). Basically you want to write a script to use 'sed' to replace the old From line and insert a new one, and then send the message to sendmail. Then make the script the "Mailer" in Mail.app. I'll look around to see if I have my old script somewhere.. drop me a line if you don't hear from me in a day or so... TjL -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXTstep Web Page: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next for email-autoresponder info, NeXTPrinter FAQ, Swapdisk&Swapfile FAQ and more On 6 Sep 1996 a9050756@unet.univie.ac.at wrote: > Is there any way to set the From: Field in Mail.app 3.0? > > Best Regards, > > Michael Alexander > Doctoral Student at the University of Vienna > > >
From: "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 7 Sep 1996 04:17:07 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> I am currently recruiting beta testers for my home-brewn application IconDock. This nifty utility recreates in vivid details the awesome NeXTSTEP AppBar, right on your Windows desktop. In a way, it's the Windows counterpart of Afterstep for Linux, but it doesn't provide a whole new window manager. Still, the AppDock replica is so close to the original that it far surpasses the Wholf imitation in some areas (something tells me the people doing Afterstep have never really used NeXTSTEP): - You can slide the bar up and down if it gets in your way, just like in NeXTSTEP! - The clock. It's an *exact* replica of the original, fonts and all! - double-clicking on the logo and a file browser will pop up - each button will flash upon activation, like in NeXTSTEP! (except you get a more lively animated flash) - A yet-in-the-works recycler button that, once done, will act just like the Recycler button in NeXTSTEP - Extra-bonus: you can choose which textures you want to use for your buttons. Besides the original flat tone and metalic, you can also choose a very subtle marble texture. You need Win95 or NT 4.0, as well as visual basic run-time libraries to run this application. you can download the libraries at ftp://ftp.sausage.com/pub/hd32supp.exe. IconBar continues the NeXTSTEP tradition of using *only* 48x48 icons, smaller icons will be stretched to those dimensions and won't look very good. So in order to fully enjoy AppBar it would be good to have some high-res, high-color icons at hand. E-mail me if you are interested.
From: telf@lys.vnet.net (ROLAND TELFEYAN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Installing bundles (was Re: cryptor bundle & Mail.app 3.3) Date: 7 Sep 1996 15:17:42 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. Message-ID: <50s3mm$1el@ralph.vnet.net> References: <1996Aug20.162207.84051@cc.usu.edu> <1996Aug25.172500.1204@gamelan.shnet.org> <50ihoj$k2j@marcy.concom.com> Timothy Kordas (tjk) wrote: : Recently I've been trying to get a bunch of bundles to work with : Mail.app. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. I've put the : bundles in /Library/Mail, ~/Library/Mail, /LocalLibrary. There's a bug in Mail -- you have to put all the bundles in one place. Sorry! Roland Telfeyan roland@telf.com
From: briggman@universe.digex.net (Dave Briggman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 7 Sep 1996 16:36:11 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Message-ID: <50s89r$k8b@news4.digex.net> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> Millennium Warrior (everblue@ucla.edu) wrote: : : - You can slide the bar up and down if it gets in your way, just like in : NeXTSTEP! : : - The clock. It's an *exact* replica of the original, fonts and all! : : - double-clicking on the logo and a file browser will pop up : : - each button will flash upon activation, like in NeXTSTEP! (except you get : a more lively animated flash) : : - A yet-in-the-works recycler button that, once done, will act just like : the Recycler button in NeXTSTEP : Didn't someone come out with a broser imitation for the Mac that NeXT threatened with major legal action if the freeware wasn't yanked..(although I am afraid this might be the only way to keep the interface going) SIGH... Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Message-ID: <199609071524.LAA06462@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 96 11:25:01 -0400 Subject: Mail.app dwrite AutoSelectFont YES Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com Does anyone know what this dwrite does: Mail AutoSelectFont YES TjL -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXTstep Web Page: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next for email-autoresponder info, NeXTPrinter FAQ, Swapdisk&Swapfile FAQ and more
From: bo@sdphln (Bo Yang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 7 Sep 1996 17:33:10 GMT Organization: UCSD PHYSICS Message-ID: <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> In article <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> writes: >I am currently recruiting beta testers for my home-brewn application >IconDock. This nifty utility recreates in vivid details the awesome >NeXTSTEP AppBar, right on your Windows desktop. In a way, it's the Windows >counterpart of Afterstep for Linux, but it doesn't provide a whole new >window manager. Still, the AppDock replica is so close to the original >that it far surpasses the Wholf imitation in some areas (something tells me >the people doing Afterstep have never really used NeXTSTEP): > >- You can slide the bar up and down if it gets in your way, just like in >NeXTSTEP! > I don't know about the guys who's doing Afterstep, which continues on BowMan manager and adds fancier stuffs. But I promise you, the original BowMan author is a daily NeXTSTEP user, and he has a private contributed version of Wharf that behaves just like AppBar, sliding up and down with 3 holes coming and going. Well, I am Bowman's author. I havn't had time to work on BowMan for a while( writing thesis on NeXTSTEP), and next thing I knew, there was an AfterStep project. They seems to be doing just fine, but you're right, they don't seem to be Nextstep users. I havn't seen your work but it sounds fantastic. You'll need some good hackers to patch the Win95 binary and make the windows look like NeXTSTEP as well. But that's possible, and once I had a vision of gethering some Chinese hackers and get this dirty job going (We're good at patching up binaries. :-). well, at least to make the English applications compitable with Chinese language.) but, what the heck, NeXTSTEP window bars with Win95 widgets might simply look awful. IconDock is a nice project. Keep it up. There's a really old BowMan page at http://sdcc3.ucsd.edu/~byang/bowman. I probably will finish the project after my graduation, if the Afterstep guys havn't done a really good job at that time. - Bo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Message-ID: <DxDJr6.DwI@news2.new-york.net> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 18:09:06 GMT Earlier in the thread, I (garance) wrote: > tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) wrote: > > I'm running it on mono black h/w, and I am very happy with it. > > It is plenty fast enough (frankly the screen writing actualy > > is faster than my color/intel/3.3 stuff at work), > > I've run it a little on a 32meg greyscale NeXTstation (non-Turbo). > From the sound of the disk I'd guess that it must be paging more, > particularly at application startup. Once an application was > started, however, the performance seems quite reasonable. I'd > say that application startup seems slower than NS-3.3, but I > couldn't guess whether applications are slower after they have > started. > > Note that I haven't used it a lot. Maybe a few hours worth. Now that I've used it a little bit more, I found one important mistake in the above. I actually installed it on my 20-meg NeXTstation, not my 32-meg NeXTstation. It's still paging more than NS-3.3 running on the same hardware, but at least I have the option of improving that with more RAM. It also means that it might not be all that bad running on a color NeXTstation which did have 32meg of RAM. > Note that I haven't used any of the new developer stuff. Note that I still haven't had time to do anything with the new developer stuff, so it might be that I'd be less satisfied with the performance if I was (due to increased paging, from what others have suggested). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:50:58 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <wmAR8Wu00iWR45IVwq@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50s89r$k8b@news4.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <50s89r$k8b@news4.digex.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 7-Sep-96 Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look.. by Dave Briggman@universe.d > Didn't someone come out with a broser imitation for the Mac that NeXT > threatened with major legal action if the freeware wasn't > yanked..(although I am afraid this might be the only way to keep the > interface going) SIGH... Hmm. The last I heard was that the "look and feel" lawsuits by Apple and Lotus are still in the appeals process. So long as the freeware imitation does not violate genuine copyright issues (say, by "borrowing" graphic images like NeXT's recycler animation, to point out one _really_ stupid idea that certainly would get someone sued)-- it's likely that you can legally write your own implementation that resembles some other product without being in trouble. But I'm not a laywer, so don't blame me if I'm wrong. :-) If anyone is curious about this issue, perhaps you should talk to the "League for Programming Freedom"...no doubt they are well versed on this topic. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 7 Sep 1996 22:36:57 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <50ste9$q8g@news3.digex.net> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <01bb9cc5$49c861e0$d81443a4@lullaby> "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> wrote: > I also have something to say about the patching of Windows binaries as well. Even if it can be done, it'll only cause trouble in the long run, considering the sheer rate at which Microsoft changes the Windows interface. I don't think Windows interface is a bad one, either. It just has a different style; and it doesn't giveup usability for looks like NeXTSTEP does in some areas. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinions... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 7 Sep 1996 22:04:15 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bb9cc5$49c861e0$d81443a4@lullaby> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Bo Yong! Nice to meet you. Thank you for your compliment. IconDock now has a homepage at http://home1.gte.net/everblue. I also have something to say about the patching of Windows binaries as well. Even if it can be done, it'll only cause trouble in the long run, considering the sheer rate at which Microsoft changes the Windows interface. I don't think Windows interface is a bad one, either. It just has a different style; and it doesn't giveup usability for looks like NeXTSTEP does in some areas.
From: "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 7 Sep 1996 22:09:22 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bb9cc6$00bbdcb0$d81443a4@lullaby> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby><50s89r$k8b@news4.digex.net> <wmAR8Wu00iWR45IVwq@andrew.cmu.edu> So long as the freeware imitation does not violate genuine copyright issues (say, by "borrowing" graphic images like NeXT's recycler animation, to point out one _really_ stupid idea that certainly would get someone sued) Well, Afterstep pages are now showing Wharf bars with recycler icons on them. Would it make any difference if I go an extra mile and add the animation? Am I more likely to be sued than the Linux guys?
From: "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 7 Sep 1996 22:48:31 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bb9ccb$788c10c0$d81443a4@lullaby> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <01bb9cc5$49c861e0$d81443a4@lullaby> <50ste9$q8g@news3.digex.net> > I guess everyone is entitled to their opinions... > -- Indeed. Pray that it stays this way.
From: "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: IconDock now has a homepage! Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 7 Sep 1996 22:15:13 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bb9cc6$d2395150$d81443a4@lullaby> THE most precise imitation of NeXTSTEP AppDock now has a homepage at http://home1.gte.net/everblue
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <lennart@webtv.net> Message-ID: <9609071959.AA01510@pan.artemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v148) From: Lennart Lovstrand <lennart@webtv.net> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 96 12:59:04 -0700 Subject: Re: Mail.app dwrite AutoSelectFont YES Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: <199609071524.LAA06462@nerc3.nerc.com> > Does anyone know what this dwrite does: > > Mail AutoSelectFont YES Yes, it's the "Use Fixed Pitch Font for Plain Text" switch in Mail's General Preferences. (It will make your default fixed pitch font be used for plain text messages received from non-NeXT mailers.) Cheers, --Lennart
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu (bryce) Subject: Calctool for NeXT Message-ID: <DxE180.1r1@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 00:26:23 GMT is there any simple "calculator" application (nothing fancier than the one that comes with Windows... scientific and simple versions) for the NeXT? i'm looking especially for something like openwin's calctool, which i like. bryce -- ()-() Bryce B. Sady (o o) http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/bbsady /\o/\ Classical Studies, the College, the University of Chicago
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 8 Sep 1996 01:17:24 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <50t6r4$rqd@news3.digex.net> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <01bb9cc5$49c861e0$d81443a4@lullaby> <50ste9$q8g@news3.digex.net> <01bb9ccb$788c10c0$d81443a4@lullaby> "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> wrote: > > I guess everyone is entitled to their opinions... > Indeed. Pray that it stays this way. I'd rather save my prayers to wish for more enlightened opinions. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: Michael Bush <Michael_Bush@byu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Popper on NeXT Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 19:58:45 -0600 Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Message-ID: <32322855.5BEA@byu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone had any experience compiling and running the Popper app under NeXTStep to get E-mail from the NeXT using POP? -- Cheers, Mike Michael_Bush@byu.edu (First choice!) http://moliere.byu.edu/digital/ (Check it out!) (801) 378-4515 (801) 378-4649 (Last resort!)
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Alexandra performance problems Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 00:39:12 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-0809960039120001@news.tiac.net> References: <50dcej$1pfk@news.missouri.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.95.960905111011.19820B-100000@charisma> <50oqu9$kok@ddfservb.technet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit After seeing several posts on this subject, I feel I should reiterate the results of some experiments I ran 6 months or so ago. The only NeXT newsreader which could start up and scan the subscribed newsgroups anywhere nearly as fast as the Mac standard - NewsWatcher - was NewsFlash (or some name like that). And it wasn't that fast. The developers did suggest they might undo some changes that had slowed scanning down (having to do with sorting threads and arranging them in hierarchical fashion), but I haven't bothered to retest. The results were so poor I abandoned any thought of reading news on the NeXT. An additional factor was the tendency to use a single window for the all news groups, subscribed news groups and current news group article lists, as well as the current article text. NewsWatcher, sensibly, spreads this info over four windows. Barney
From: me@solaris1mysolution.com (Tommy K. Hwang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Popper on NeXT Date: 8 Sep 1996 05:45:21 GMT Organization: Internet Solutions Inc. Message-ID: <50tmhh$7hg@news.mysolution.com> References: <32322855.5BEA@byu.edu> In article <32322855.5BEA@byu.edu>, Michael Bush <Michael_Bush@byu.edu> wrote: >Has anyone had any experience compiling and running the Popper app under >NeXTStep to get E-mail from the NeXT using POP? There is compiled and package version on ftp sites for NeXT. The popper works just like any other POP daemon. What is missing as far as I am concern is the lack of the following: 1. slirp - TCPIP emulation 2. user disk quota I have SVR4/BSDi User quota ported to the NeXT, but I do not have a quota shell, or a shell suitable for restricting user actions when quota filled. If anyone made one, please contact me... I would like to release this binary, but only when it can be used directly. -ME
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Message-ID: <199609080509.BAA07255@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <199609080443.AAA14148@mailserver1.tiac.net> From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 96 01:09:29 -0400 Subject: Re: From: in Mail.app Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: <50q1hl$1l3k@www.univie.ac.at> <Pine.NXT.3.95.960906175436.11988G-100000@charisma> <199609080443.AAA14148@mailserver1.tiac.net> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) on Sun, 08 Sep 1996 wrote: > Sounds more sensible than mucking around with sendmail > configuration files, but I suspect you still have to disable some > sendmail features. Anyway, I'd like to hear more about this > approach. I did NOT have to turn off any of sendmail's features (I could not have if I wanted to). Mucking with sendmail is the "better" solution. Just plain ol' changing your login name is even better. This is for people who cannot do that, for some reason. For example, at my college, they had my login name as "Tim Luoma" and I wanted it to be "Timothy J. Luoma" because I prefer it (when I see my name written). However, they wouldn't change it for me, and I couldn't do it with 'passwd'.... Of course, now that I want it, I can't find the silly thing (my old script).... Probably deleted it when I had root access and no longer needed it. So I reinvented it.... What I did was make a script that does this: #!/bin/sh #Note, there is NO carriage return in the next line cat - | sed 's/From: Timothy J. Luoma <luomat>/From: Someone Else <somwhere@else.com>/g'|/usr/lib/sendmail -oi -t exit 0 #end of script and named that script "newmailer" then I made it executable (chmod a+x /path/to/newmailer) then I changed the "Mailer" preference in Mail.app (expert preferences) to point to: /path/to/newmailer) . NOTE: to TEST this (as any smart person would), I changed the "/usr/lib/sendmail" to "openfile" which kept the mail from going anywhere, and just opened it in Edit.app. That way I could see what the line looked like, etc etc. ALSO: The syntax of the FROM line changed (either in 3.2 or 3.3). It used to be like this: (Timothy Luoma) luomat@nerc.com and now (3.2 or 3.3) it is like this Timothy Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> One would have to be VERY careful to make sure that the syntax was EXACT. ALSO, if 'sed' complains about something, try escaping (using \) any special characters (ie &^#$@&#*&%*(.) basically any non-alpha Final Note: Anyone who thinks this allows them to send anonymous email is either very foolish or sends mail to people who don't have access to any other header than just the "From" line (ie someone on Novell). It is fun however.... I sent more than one message to someone as "God@heaven.org" with the message: "Stop that." Which is quite fun when one is sitting in the computer lab and can see the person's face when they get the message.... Anyway, that's my take on it all. No warrantee expressed or implied, use at your own risk. I did this for 2+ years with no real problems, YMMV, use only as directed, for external use only, do not immerse in water TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXTstep Web Page: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next Swapdisk/Swapfile Faq: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/swapfaq.html Misc NeXT Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/mailserver/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Popper on NeXT Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960908111619.6686A-100000@charisma> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:17:42 -0400 References: <32322855.5BEA@byu.edu> To: Michael Bush <Michael_Bush@byu.edu> In-Reply-To: <32322855.5BEA@byu.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/PopOver.v1.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/PopOver.v1.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz.README Should be everything you need, in one nice little package (no, not a .pkg, just the generic usage of the word) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXTstep Web Page: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next Swapdisk/Swapfile Faq: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/swapfaq.html Misc NeXT Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/mailserver On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Michael Bush wrote: > Has anyone had any experience compiling and running the Popper app under > NeXTStep to get E-mail from the NeXT using POP? > > -- > > Cheers, > > Mike > Michael_Bush@byu.edu (First choice!) > http://moliere.byu.edu/digital/ (Check it out!) > (801) 378-4515 (801) 378-4649 (Last resort!) > > >
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 11:33:39 -0500 Organization: Illinois State University- Instructional Technology Services Message-ID: <3232F4D0.561A@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50s89r$k8b@news4.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Dave Briggman <briggman@universe.digex.net> Dave Briggman wrote: > Didn't someone come out with a broser imitation for the Mac that NeXT > threatened with major legal action if the freeware wasn't > yanked..(although I am afraid this might be the only way to keep the > interface going) SIGH... The closest thing I've seen on the MAC OS is this shareware app called Greg's Browser, see: http://greg.math.harvard.edu/index.html ---------------------------------------- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ASCII, MIME, SUN or NeXT Mail; PGP ok. * PGP public key available, send mail with subj "Send PGP Key" Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University Understanding is best learned via experience ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS4 Alpha Binaries... Date: 8 Sep 1996 18:02:18 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <50v1na$6ch@news3.digex.net> Hi all :) I was wondering if those who still have the OPENSTEP 4.0 Alpha about, the one with the new WorkSpace and Mail apps that were never released...if they would be able to send a copy to me (I only got on board with the beta testing) or better yet put them as examples onto an FTP site. I'm sure this is likely a no-no in the NDA...but just in case it isn't, I thought I'd ask :) I really like the way that the OPENSTEPified Mail.app was going to take up so much less space on screen and have pop-up selections for the mail type, etc. Lessee, we still have the New TextEdit, PB, IB, Draw...So other than the new WorkSpace and Mail.app, what are we missing in the way of OPENSTEP apps pulled from the alpha release? Thanks much. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <bjarni@fiton.is> Message-ID: <199609081811.SAA03646@next.fiton.is> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Bjarni Thor Juliusson <bjarni@fiton.is> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 96 18:11:47 GMT Subject: PixelMagician We have lisenced version of Pixel Magician, but we have lost the disks. Can any one help or tell me how l can get my hands on non Demo. Or just, version that we can fech and register? Thanks Bjarni
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa) Subject: dbm & gdbm with gdbmAdaptor Message-ID: <DxFHzI.9Ds@musical.fdn.org> Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa) Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS (The Music Land) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:26:05 GMT Does anybody have any experience with dbm and gdbm, I tried to use it with the Mike Henry's gdbmAdaptor but it seems had a bug in the DB libraries, we can't suppress a record in the base, the others functions work fine. I have checked the NeXTAnswers but nothing about. Sam -- Sam Przyswa System Operator Rock'n Jazz BBS Music & MIDI E-Mail:sam@musical.fdn.org <MIME & NeXTMail> Paris - France French Data Network - http://www.fdn.fr/ 33-1-4054-8604
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS4 Alpha Binaries... Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 17:35:06 -0500 Organization: Illinois State University- Instructional Technology Services Message-ID: <3233494A.C05@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <50v1na$6ch@news3.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Kheit wrote: > > Hi all :) > > I was wondering if those who still have the OPENSTEP 4.0 Alpha about, the > one with the new WorkSpace and Mail apps that were never released Well, as Apple does, why not just release the damn things and put them in the "unsupported" directory and status. Since most of the UNIX part of NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP for MACH are "unsupported" anyways! i.e. sendmail... Come on NeXT, show some SUPPORT to your LOYAL customers! ---------------------------------------- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ASCII, MIME, SUN or NeXT Mail; PGP ok. * PGP public key available, send mail with subj "Send PGP Key" Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University Understanding is best learned via experience ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS4 Alpha Binaries... Date: 8 Sep 1996 23:39:21 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <50vlf9$695@news4.digex.net> References: <50v1na$6ch@news3.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > Lessee, we still have the New TextEdit, PB, IB, Draw...So other than the new WorkSpace and Mail.app, what are we missing in the way of OPENSTEP apps pulled from the alpha release? Just looking at an old screen shot...I spy with my little red eyes (too much school work :).... New apps under NextApps included: Clock.app, Mail.app, MailViewer.app,Viewer.app and Workspace.app...Getting these would be great. Also, maybe some of the others like FaxReader, etc...were OPENSTEPified??? -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: Joe Freeman <jfreeman@freemansoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: old next mail boxes under Netscape? Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 07:16:59 -0400 Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. Message-ID: <3233FCAB.236F@freemansoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone converted their NeXT mail boxes to a form useable by one of the mailers under NT? I'd prefer Netscape mail but others would be fine. It would seem that NeXT mail under NT would be usefull though it would need better integration with http://xx/yy kind of nomeclature and the ability to display in line HTML. <Joe>
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3.3 developer on 4.0 ? Date: 9 Sep 1996 15:53:17 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Message-ID: <511ehd$a3t@netty.york.ac.uk> I'm currently trying to run 3.3 developer under 4.0 - does anyone know if there are any porblems with this. I came across one - the install for the tools replaced dyld and broke everything - so I'm now using 4.0 dyld and hope that it works o.k. If this is a foolish thing to do then could someone let me know before I break everything ! :-) -bat.
From: drnek@river.it.gvsu.edu (Drnek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT web authoring tools. Date: 9 Sep 1996 17:54:46 GMT Organization: Grand Valley State University Message-ID: <511ll6$fti@news.gvsu.edu> Can anybody suggest some good tools for creating web documents? I am looking for tools for editing graphics, HTML validators, and anything else that is helpful for creating Web documents. I am going to have to review the tools and post the results to a class newsgroup but I will also post the review here if people would be intrested. Later, Drnek -- Jon Drnek drnek@river.it.gvsu.edu http://www2.gvsu.edu/~drnek
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT web authoring tools. Date: 9 Sep 1996 18:28:26 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <511nka$olq@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <511ll6$fti@news.gvsu.edu> In article <511ll6$fti@news.gvsu.edu> drnek@river.it.gvsu.edu (Drnek) writes: ->Can anybody suggest some good tools for creating web documents? I ->am looking for tools for editing graphics, HTML validators, and ->anything else that is helpful for creating Web documents. I am ->going to have to review the tools and post the results to a class ->newsgroup but I will also post the review here if people would be ->intrested. -> I am working on a graphical HTML editor of sorts. The thing it lacks is the ability to read in HTML files (it dumps them out and saves the files in a native format). However it does graphically display tables, images, lists, and most other block level elements. Its still in the pre alpha stages but I am looking for people interested in testing it out so drop me a line if you're interested. -- John Stanhope jehu@vt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: warning: re: PINE and NeXTMail Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960909183310.22468B-100000@charisma> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 18:39:31 -0400 Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One of those things that seems obvious once someone says it, but I thought I'd pass it along. If you are using PINE to read a NeXT Mail.app Mailbox (ie Active.mbox) DO NOT move or delete any NeXTMail messages. PINE does not know anything about the NeXTMail attachment (ie *.attach inside the .mbox directory) and so all it will move or delete is the HEADER information. For example: You open the 'mbox' file from inside the 'Active.mbox' directory using PINE. You see a NeXTMail message which you want to store in some other mailbox called 'nextmail'. PINE will move the header information to 'nextmail' but the attachment (with the text and anything else that was in the message) will remain inside the Active.mbox. This is a waste of diskspace if you are trying to delete files, and will mean you will LOSE the contents of your mail message if you cannot find the proper .attach file later on. Moral of the Story: Don't delete or move NeXTMail messages unless you are using the Mail.app or some other app which understands the NeXTMail format, which pine does not. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXTstep Web Page: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next Misc NeXT Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/mailserver
From: John Rudd <kzin@isc.sjsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Calctool for NeXT Date: 9 Sep 1996 23:49:55 GMT Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <512af3$nh3@nuke.csu.net> References: <DxE180.1r1@midway.uchicago.edu> Cc: bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu In <DxE180.1r1@midway.uchicago.edu> bryce wrote: [] is there any simple "calculator" application (nothing fancier than the one [] that comes with Windows... scientific and simple versions) for the NeXT? [] i'm looking especially for something like openwin's calctool, which i [] like. [] [] bryce [] [] ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/sources/tools/SciCalc-1.1.tar.gz is a scientific calculator. Since its' source, you'll need a developer distribution.. however, there are some pre-built calculators in the binaries subtree..but those ones are all RPN calculators. -- John "kzin" Rudd kzin@email.sjsu.edu http://icb.sjsu.edu/~kzin =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ "And, ironically, that's how the founding fathers expected it to work: either the government stays clean, or the people shoot them." -- ttk
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT web authoring tools. Date: 9 Sep 1996 16:45:20 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <sams.842311022@shellx> References: <511ll6$fti@news.gvsu.edu> <511nka$olq@solaris.cc.vt.edu> In article <511ll6$fti@news.gvsu.edu> drnek@river.it.gvsu.edu (Drnek) writes: > Can anybody suggest some good tools for creating web documents? I use a hybrid system with tools under both NeXTstep and windows. For quick convenient HTML "word processing" it's hard to beat GNNPress under Windows. This tool is free from the GNN site (http://www.tools.gnn.com/beta/press/1.2/index.html) and it does about 80% of what I want in WYSIWYG format. When it comes time to hand-edit html (and that time always comes around...) I use NeXTstep. Edit for munging and OmniWeb for testing. Also useful under NS is GifOmatic which in my experience does the best quality tiff to gif conversions; it seems to pick the palette and gamma better than other tools and has more options for things like transparency and interlacing. jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) writes: >I am working on a graphical HTML editor of sorts. The thing it lacks is >the ability to read in HTML files (it dumps them out and saves the files >in a native format). A comment here, unless a tool has an interface to every html feature I will ever use (now and in the future...) I will always have to fall back on hand-munging html, so a native format really reduces the utility for a lot of people. Of course I understand that html is grody and notoriously tricky to write a proper parser for. For what it's worth, GNNPress saves in html and will parse your hand created html files, but it may mung your sloppy html to enforce strict html syntax. This clearly wasn't someone's spare time project. 8^) cheers, -sam
From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC 2.05 for NeXT Date: 10 Sep 1996 01:22:41 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Message-ID: <512ft1$u1o@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Hello, I have a SoftPC 2.0.5 NeXT but my disk was corrupted. Could anyone send me the binary? I am a registered user for that version. Thanks! --kai-- -- email: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca url: http://web.cs.mun.ca/~kwong/
From: don@misckit.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: prman, QuickRenderman on OPENSTEP? Date: 10 Sep 1996 03:01:58 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <512ln6$1oc@news.xmission.com> References: <1996Sep5.115408.84576@cc.usu.edu> <50oqtl$nv@baldwin.rat.se> martin@rat.se (Martin Wennerberg) wrote: > In article <1996Sep5.115408.84576@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu writes: > > I know that OPENSTEP no longer comes bundled with > > the 3DKit, but I haven't heard whether it is still > > bundled with prman or QuickRenderman. > > The rutimes are there, both the 3DKit runtimes and /usr/prman. The 3Dkit > development environment will be available for free from the MiscKit folks. I should probably say something quick here. Martin is right. OK, maybe a little more. :-) The MiscKit version is progressing. I don't know when it will be ready, but we've got a lot of the stuff done as far as turning it into a framework. Well, the easy stuff is done. There's a few hard issues left to handle, and those may take longer than we anticipate. Keep an eye on the MiscKit web pages; news will be posted as it becomes available! -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: gdb-4.16 for NeXT m68k Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960909233151.28332A-100000@charisma> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 23:34:47 -0400 Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The 'configure' doc seems to have NeXT 3.x, but the configure then fails rather quickly. *** BFD does not support target m68k-next-nextstep3. *** Look in bfd/config.bfd for supported targets. Has anyone managed to set this up (it also seems to accept m68k). If so, please let me know (3.2 especially). Thanks TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa) Subject: Re: old next mail boxes under Netscape? Message-ID: <DxHwsI.MvG@musical.fdn.org> Sender: sam@musical.fdn.org (Sam Przyswa) Cc: jfreeman@freemansoft.com Organization: Rock'n Jazz BBS (The Music Land) References: <3233FCAB.236F@freemansoft.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:41:05 GMT In <3233FCAB.236F@freemansoft.com> Joe Freeman wrote: > Has anyone converted their NeXT mail boxes to a form useable by > one of the mailers under NT? I'd prefer Netscape mail but others > would be fine. > You have to install PopOver and Popper as POP3 server on NeXT and then configure Netscape Mail to connect your pop server on NeXT with your login and password, I do that. Hope this help. Sam -- Sam Przyswa System Operator Rock'n Jazz BBS Music & MIDI E-Mail:sam@musical.fdn.org <MIME & NeXTMail> Paris - France French Data Network - http://www.fdn.fr/ 33-1-4054-8604
From: joe8844@singnet.com.sg (Joseph Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Turn $5 into more.It's real Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 18:56:32 GMT Organization: Singapore Telecom Internet Service Message-ID: <512qr1$hur@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Turn $5 into more.It's real This is not one of those "Get Rich Quick Schemes" or "mail-order Schemes". But enough to pay off your debts and who knows, you could be test driving the new Mercedes in the next three months. If you're too eager to read what this is about then go right to the Instruction Section at the bottom of this article. READ ON. If it doesn't make sense, read it again and again until it does! ******************************************************************* Hello! I've got some awesome news that I think you need to take two minutes to read if you have ever thought "How could I make some serious cash in a hurry???" , or been in serious debt, ready to do almost anything to get the money needed to pay off those bill collectors. So grab a snack, a warm cup of coffee, or a glass of your favorite beverage, get comfortable and listen to this interesting, exciting find! (If you're reading this on-line, I suggest that you QUICKLY download it to your hard drive FIRST, just in case some do-gooder takes it off the news board. You can always read it with a text editor, like Windows Notepad. Also, you will find this copy on your disk to be most useful, as you will later see. Just use the File: Save As command.) Let me start by saying that I FINALLY FOUND IT! That's right! I found it! And I HATE GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES!! I hate those schemes like multi-level marketing, mail-order schemes, envelope stuffing scams, 900 number scams... the list goes on forever. I have tried every darn get rich quick scheme out there over the past 12 years. I somehow got on mailing lists for people looking to make money (more like 'desperate stupid people who will try anything for money!'). Well, when I was a teenager, these claims to 'get me rich quick' sounded irresistible! I would shell out $14.95 here, $29.95 there, $24.95 here, and another $49.95 there. I had maxed out my new Circuit City Card AND my Visa... I was desperate for money!! So, I gave them all a chance but failed at every one of them! Maybe they worked for some people, but not for me. Eventually, I just tossed that JUNK MAIL in the trash when I got the mail. I recognized it right away. I can smell a money scam from a mile away these days, SO I THOUGHT.... I thought I could sniff out a scam easily. WAS I WRONG!! ...I LOVE THE INTERNET!!! I was scanning thru a NEWSGROUP and saw an article stating to GET CASH FAST!! I thought... "Here on the Internet?? Well, I'll just have to see what schemes could possibly be on the internet." The article described a way to MAIL A ONE DOLLAR BILL TO ONLY FIVE PEOPLE AND MAKE $50,000 IN CASH WITHIN 4 WEEKS! Well, the more I thought about it, the more I became very curious. Why? Because of the way it worked AND BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY COST ME FIVE DOLLARS (AND FIVE STAMPS), THAT'S ALL I EVER PAY.... EVER!! Ok, so the $50,000 in cash was maybe a tough amount to reach, but it was possible. I figured that I could at least get a return of $1,000 or so. So I did it!! As per the instructions in the article, I mailed out ('snail mail' for you e-mail fanatics) a single dollar bill to each of the five people on the list that was contained in the article. I included a small note, with the dollar, that stated "Please Add Me To Your List." I then removed the first position name of the five names listed and moved everyone up one position, and I put my name in position five of the list. This is how the money starts rolling in! I then took this revised article now with my name on the list and REPOSTED IT ON AS MANY NEWSGROUPS AND LOCAL BULLETIN BOARD MESSAGE AREAS THAT I KNEW. I then waited to watch the money come in... prepared to maybe receive about $1000 to $1500 in cash or so.... But what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!! I knew what they were as soon as I saw the return addresses from people all over the world - Most from the U.S., but some from Canada, even some from Australia! I tell you, THAT WAS EXCITING!! So how much did I get in total return? $1000? $5000? Not even!!! I received a total of $23,343!!! I couldn't believe it!! I now have a brand new black Acura Integra to speak for, due to this!! Now after almost 8 months, I am ready to do it again!!! So maybe it was possible to get $50,000 in cash, I don't know, but IT COMPLETELY DEPENDS ON YOU, THE INDIVIDUAL! You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of! The more postings you achieve will determine how much cash will arrive in your very own mailbox!! It's just too easy to pass up!!! Let's review the reasons why you should do this: The only cost factors are for the five stamps, the 5 envelopes and the 5 one dollar bills that you send out to the listed names by snail mail (US Postal Service Mail). Then just simply repost the article (WITH YOUR NAME ADDED) to all the newsgroups and local BBS's you can. Then sit back and, (ironically), enjoy walking (you can run if you like! :o ) down your driveway to your mailbox and scoop up your rewards!! We all have five dollars to put into such an easy effortless investment with SPECTACULAR REALISTIC RETURNS OF $15,000 to $25,000 in about 3-5 weeks! So HOLD OFF ON THOSE LOTTERY NUMBERS FOR TODAY, EAT AT HOME TONIGHT INSTEAD OF TAKEOUT FROM McDONALDS AND INVEST FIVE DOLLARS IN THIS AMAZING MONEY MAKING SYSTEM NOW!!! YOU CAN'T LOSE!! So how do you do it exactly, you ask? I have carefully provided the most detailed, yet straight-forward instructions on how to easily get this underway and get your cash on its way. SO, ARE YOU READY TO MAKE SOME CASH!!!?? HERE WE GO!!! ******************************************************************** *** (THE LIST OF NAMES IS AT THE END OF THIS ARTICLE.) *** OK, Read this carefully. Get a printout of this information, if you like, so you can easily refer to it as often as needed. (Not that it's difficult or anything.) INSTRUCTIONS: 1. Take a sheet of paper and write on it the following: "Please add my name to your list". This creates a service out of this money making system and thus makes it completely legal. You are not just randomly sending a dollar to someone, you are paying one dollar for a legitimate service. Make sure you include your name and address. I assure you that, again, this is completely legal! For a neat little twist, also write what slot their name was in: "You were in slot #3", just to add a little fun! This is all about having fun and making money at the same time! 2. Now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill, (no checks or money orders), and put them into an envelope and send it on its way to the five people listed. The folding of the paper around the bill will ensure its arrival to its recipient. THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!! (Otherwise, some unscrupulous mail delivery person may see what's inside and start helping himself to all the thousands of envelopes arriving!) 3. Now listen carefully, here's where you get YOUR MONEY COMING TO YOUR MAILBOX. Look at the list of five people; remove the first name from position one and move everyone on the list up one slot on the list. Position #2's name will now move to the position #1 slot, position #3 will now become position #2, #4 will be #3, #5 will be #4. Now put your name, address, zipcode AND COUNTRY in position #5, the bottom position on the list. 4. Now upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and local bulletin boards, message areas & file sections as possible. Give a catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!! Such as: "NEED FAST CASH?, HERE IT IS!" or "NEED CASH TO PAY OFF YOUR DEBTS??", etc. And the more uploads, the more money you will make, and of course, the more money the others on the list will make too. LET'S ALL TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER BY BEING HONEST AND BY PUTTING FORTH 120 PERCENT INTO THIS PROFITABLE & AMAZING SYSTEM!!! You'll reap the benefits, believe me!!! Set a goal for the number of total uploads you'll post, such as 15-20 postings or more! Always have a goal in mind!!! If you can UUE encode the file when uploading, that will make it easier for the people to receive it and have it downloaded to their hard drive. That way they get a copy of the article right on their computer without hassles of viewing and then saving the article from the File menu. DON'T ALTER THE FILE TYPE, leave it as an MS-DOS Text file. The best test is to be able to view this file using Microsoft's Notepad for Windows 3.x or WordPad for Windows '95. (Do NOT use the WordWrap option. It will screw the margins up!) If the margins look right without making the screen slide left or right when at the ends of the sentences, you're in business! 5. If you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the BBS, or "POST" a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a file, tell them who your Internet provider is and PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS BE GLAD TO HELP. I would try to describe how to do it but there are simply too many internet software packages with slightly different yet relatively simple ways to post or upload a file. Just ask for help or look in the help section for 'posting'. I do know that for GNN, you simply select 'POST' then enter a catchy description under the subject box, choose 'ATTACH', selecting 'UUE' and NOT 'TXT', then choose 'Browse' to go look for the file. Find your text file, i.e. CASH.TXT, and click on it and choose 'OK'. Place a one line statement in the main body section of the message post screen. Something like "Download this to read how to get cash arriving in your mailbox with no paybacks!" or whatever. Just make sure it represents its true feasibility, NOT something like... "Get one million dollars flooding in your mailbox in two days!" You'll never get ANY responses! 6. And this is the step I like. JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY LIFE BECAUSE CASH IS ON ITS WAY!! Expect to see a little money start to trickle in around 2 weeks, but AT ABOUT WEEKS 3 & 4, THE MONEY STORM WILL HIT YOUR MAILBOX!! All you have to do is take it out of the mailbox and try not to scream too loud (outside anyway) when you realize YOU HIT THE BIG TIME AT LAST!! 7. So go PAY OFF YOUR BILLS AND DEBTS and then get that something special you always wanted or buy that special person in your life (or the one you want in your life) a gift they'll never forget. ENJOY LIFE! 8. Now when you get low on this money supply, simply re-activate this file again; Reposting it in the old places where you originally posted and possibly some new places you now know of. Don't ever lose this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you ever need cash. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TOOL THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS RE-USE TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHEN CASH IS NEEDED! ****************************************************************** What that means simplified is: 1) Send $1 to the people on the list 2) Put your name on list 3) Post list everywhere you can 4) People send money to you because your name is on the list GOT IT! ****************************************************************** THE NAMES LIST THE NAMES LIST THE NAME LIST ****************************************************************** ************************************************ HONESTY IS WHAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL!!! ************************************************ 1. Daniel Hernandez 1413 Edsent Ave Charleston, SC 29407 2. Seth Young 11 Biscayne Place Newark, DE 19713 3. Ben Kelly 65 Massasoit Ave Mashpee, MA 02649 4. Sami Takieddin 1203 Snyder Lane, Apt 1000C Blacksburg, VA 24060 5. Joe Wong Block 37,Circuit Rd #09-437 Singapore 370037 ****************************************************************** If it didn't work, you would see posts saying so. IT DOES WORK!!! ******************************************************************
From: batmon@abico.com.tw (Mon-Sen Yang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Install NeXT to a notebook computer Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:59:34 GMT Organization: j%nki~w€RJ3M-26XPLZ8L-BFGD44CT-1EA6BC82 Message-ID: <512sfp$99n@netnews.hinet.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: looking for: makeinfo Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960910010406.1641A-100000@charisma> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 01:08:52 -0400 Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII sorry for the crosspost, I'm really not sure which group is better. Anyway, please reply via email (I really don't follow the 'programmer' group since I would ask way too many questions). I've tried to compile more than a few programs which have failed, and I think it has something to do with this: checking for makeinfo... false configure: warning: ***** makeinfo utility not found ***** The latest failure was git-4.3.12 under m68k-next-nextstep3 (3.2 to be precise). Two questions: 1) does anyone have 'git' compiled for m68k (3.2 or 3.3) 2) does anyone have or know where I can find the 'makeinfo' tool the programs are looking for? Thanks If anyone else is interested in the answer, drop me a line and I'll share whatever I find out Thanks TjL
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19960910.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19960909.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19960903.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 10 Sep 1996 02:00:00 -0600 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: weekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
From: Paolo Fabbri <pfabbri@mn.village.it> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: C++ Compiler. Date: 10 Sep 1996 07:59:58 GMT Organization: village Message-ID: <51375u$npa@serra.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where can i find a compiler cor C++ under Windows 3.1 ?? Thank you.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Control: cancel <512qr1$hur@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Subject: cmsg cancel <512qr1$hur@lantana.singnet.com.sg> From: snowhare@xmission.com Sender: joe8844@singnet.com.sg (Joseph Wong) Date: 10 Sep 96 09:53:26 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.512qr1$hur@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Organization: Devilbunnies Spam Cancelling Division Spam Cancellation. For details see news.admin.net-abuse.announce
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <6GWM8zck-JB@delphin.tbx.berlinet.de> From: M.GUENTSCHE@TBX.BerliNet.DE (mark-oliver guentsche) Subject: searching for geneva-font Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 12:14:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hi, I am searching for the macintosh "geneva" font for the next. where can I get this? mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: 3.3 developer on 4.0 ? Message-ID: <DxIL23.35M@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <511ehd$a3t@netty.york.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:25:15 GMT In article <511ehd$a3t@netty.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) writes: > I'm currently trying to run 3.3 developer under 4.0 - does anyone > know if there are any porblems with this. I came across one - > the install for the tools replaced dyld and broke everything - > so I'm now using 4.0 dyld and hope that it works o.k. If this is > a foolish thing to do then could someone let me know before I > break everything ! :-) > The release notes explicitly state that installing NS 3.3 Dev onto OPENSTEP/Mach would crash the system due to the replacement of an incompatible 'dyld'! Although, from my first impression you should be able to NFS-mount the NS 3.3 dev tools and libs from a NS 3.3 machine and run them successfully on OS/Mach. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Ernest Aleixandre Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric Subject: Quick and Easy Money (NOT A SCAM!) Date: 10 Sep 1996 19:24:12 GMT Organization: First Nations Network Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <514f8s$a1e@fin.firstnations.ca> *********************************************************************** This works, I did it and have already received $682.00 in the past week. ************************************************************************ Hello! I've got some awesome news that I think you need to take two minutes to read if you have ever thought "How could I make some serious cash in a hurry???" , or been in serious debt, ready to do almost anything to get the money needed to pay off those bill collectors. So grab a snack, a warm cup of coffee, or a glass of your favorite beverage, get comfortable and listen to this interesting, exciting find! Let me start by saying that I FINALLY FOUND IT! That's right!. I found it! And I HATE GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES!! I hate those schemes like multi-level marketing, mail-order schemes, envelope stuffing scams, 900 number scams... the list goes on forever. I have tried every darn get rich quick scheme out there over the past 12 years. I somehow got on mailing lists for people looking to make money (more like 'desperate stupid people who will try anything for money!'). Well, when I was a teenager, these claims to 'get me rich quick' sounded irresistible! I would shell out $14.95 here, $29.95 there, $24.95 here, and another $49.95 there. I had maxed out my new Circuit City Card AND my Visa...I was desperate for money!! So, I gave them all a chance but failed at every one of them! Maybe they worked for some people, but not for me. Eventually, I just tossed that JUNK MAIL in the trash when I got the mail. I recognized it right away. I can smell a money scam from a mile away these days, SO I THOUGHT.... I thought I could sniff out a scam easily. WAS I WRONG!! ....I LOVE THE INTERNET!!! I was scanning thru a NEWSGROUP and saw an article stating to GET CASH FAST!! I thought..."Here on the Internet?? Well, I'll just have to see what schemes could possibly be on the internet." The article described a way to MAIL A ONE DOLLAR BILL TO ONLY FIVE PEOPLE AND MAKE $50, 0000 IN CASH WITHIN 4 WEEKS! Well, the more I thought about it, the more I became very curious. Why? Because of the way it worked AND BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY COST ME FIVE DOLLARS (AND FIVE STAMPS), THAT'S ALL I EVER PAY....EVER!! Ok, so the $50,000 in cash was maybe a tough amount to reach, but it was possible. I knew that I could at least get a return of $1,000 or so. So I did it!! As per the instructions in the article, I mailed out ('snail mail'for you e-mail fanatics) a single dollar bill to each of the five people on the list that was contained in the article. I included a small note, with the dollar, that stated "Please Add Me To Your List." I then removed the first position name of the five names listed and moved everyone up one position, and I put my name in position five of the list. This is how the money starts rolling in! I then took this revised article now with my name on the list and REPOSTED IT ON AS MANY NEWSGROUPS AND LOCAL BULLETIN BOARD MESSAGE AREAS THAT I KNEW. I then waited to watch the money come in...prepared to maybe receive about $1000 to $1500 in cash or so.... But what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!! I knew what they were as soon as I saw the return addresses from people all over the world-Most from the U.S., but some from Canada, even some from Australia! I tell you, THAT WAS EXCITING!! So how much did I get in total return? $1000? $5000? Not even!!! I received a total of $23,343!!! I couldn't believe it!! I now have a brand new black Acura Integra to speak for, due to this!! Now after almost 8 months, I am ready to do it again!!! So maybe it was possible to get $50,000 in cash, I don't know, but IT COMPLETELY DEPENDS ON YOU, THE INDIVIDUAL! You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of! The more postings you achieve will determine how much cash will arrive in your very own mailbox!! It's just too easy to pass up!!! Let's review the reasons why you should do this: The only cost factors are for the five stamps, the 5 envelopes and the 5 one dollar bills that you send out to the listed names by snail mail (US Postal Service Mail). Then just simply repost the article (WITH YOUR NAME ADDED) to all the newsgroups and local BBS's you can. Then sit back and, (ironically), enjoy walking (you can run if you like! :o ) down your driveway to your mailbox and scoop up your rewards!! We all have five dollars to put into such an easy effortless investment with SPECTACULAR REALISTIC RETURNS OF $15,000 to $25,000 in about 3-5 weeks! So HOLD OFF ON THOSE LOTTERY NUMBERS FOR TODAY,EAT AT HOME TONIGHT INSTEAD OF TAKEOUT FROM McDONALDS AND INVEST FIVE DOLLARS IN THIS AMAZING MONEY MAKING SYSTEM NOW!!! YOU CAN'T LOSE!! So how do you do it exactly, you ask? I have carefully provided the mostdetailed, yet straightforward instructions on how to easily get this underway and get your cash on its way. SO, ARE YOU READY TO MAKE SOME CASH!!!?? HERE WE GO!!! *** THE LIST OF NAMES IS AT THE END OF THIS ARTICLE. *** OK, Read this carefully. Get a printout of this information, if you like, so you can easily refer to it as often as needed. INSTRUCTIONS: 1. Take a sheet of paper and write on it the following: "Please add my name to your list". This creates a service out of this money making system and thus making it completely legal. You are not just randomly sending a dollar to someone, you are paying one dollar for a legitimate service. Make sure you include your name and address. I assure you that, again, this is completely legal! For a neat little twist, also write what slot their name was in: "You were in slot 3", Just to add a little fun! This is all about having fun and making money at the same time! 2. Now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill ,(no checks or money orders), and put them into an envelope and send it on its way to the five people listed. The folding of the paper around the bill will insure its arrival to its recipient. THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!! 3. Now listen carefully, here's where you get YOUR MONEY COMING TO YOUR MAILBOX. Look at the list of five people; remove the first name from position one and move everyone on the list up slot one on the list. Position 2 name will now move to the position 1 slot , position 3 will now become position 2, 4 will be be 3, 5 wil be 4. Now put your name, address, zipcode AND COUNTRY in position 5, the bottom position on the list. 4. Now upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and local bulletin boards' message areas & file section as possible. Give a catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!! Such as: "NEED FAST CASH?, HERE IT IS!" or "NEED CASH TO PAY OFF YOUR DEBTS??", etc. And the more uploads, the more money you will make, and of course, the more money the others on the list will make too. LET'S ALL TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER BY BEING HONEST AND BY PUTTING FORTH 120 PERCENT INTO THIS PROFITABLE & AMAZING SYSTEM!!! You'll reap the benefits, believe me!!! Set a goal for the number of total uploads you'll post, such as 15-20 postings or more! Always have a goal in mind!!! If you can UUE encode the file when uploading, that will make it easier for the people to receive it and have it downloaded to their hard drive. That way they get a copy of the article right on their computer without hassles of viewing and then saving the article from the File menu. Don't alter the file type, leave it as an MS-DOS Text file. The best test is to be able to view this file using Microsoft's Notepad for Windows 3.x or WordPad for Windows '95. If the margins look right without making the screen slide left or right when at the ends of the sentences, you're in business! 5. If you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the BBS, or "POST" a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a file, tell them who your Internet provider is and PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS BE GLAD TO HELP. I would try to describe how to do it but there are simply too many internet software packages with slightly different yet relatively simple ways to post or upload a file. Just ask for help or look in the help section for 'posting'. I do know that for GNN, you simply select 'POST' then enter a catchy description under the subject box, choose 'ATTACH', selecting 'UUE' and NOT 'TXT', then choose 'Browse' to go look for the file. Find your text file CASH.TXT and click on it and choose 'OK'. Place a one line statement in the main body section of the message post screen. Something like "Download this to read how to get cash arriving in your mailbox with no paybacks!" or whatever. Just make sure it represents its true feasibility, NOT something like..."Get one million dollars flooding in your mailbox in two days!" You'll never get ANY responses! 6. And this is the step I like. JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY LIFE BECAUSE CASH IS ON THE WAY!! Expect to see a little money start to trickle in around 2 weeks, but AT ABOUT WEEKS 3 & 4, THE MONEY STORM WILL HIT YOUR MAILBOX!! All you have to do is take it out of the mailbox and try not to scream too loud (outside anyway) when you realize YOU HIT THE BIG TIME AT LAST!! 7. So go PAY OFF YOUR BILLS AND DEBTS and then get that something special you always wanted or buy that special person in your life (or the one you want in your life) a gift they'll never forget. ENJOY LIFE! 8. Now when you get low on this money supply, simply re-activate this file again; Reposting it in the old places where you originally posted and possibly some new places you now know of. Don't ever lose this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you ever need cash. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TOOL THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS RE-USE TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHEN CASH IS NEEDED! 9. (This step added by Charles Reiley). Hello, This is exciting, isn't it?! While I'm on the list, just add a note saying "Please include extra money tips" with your name & E-MAIL address, and I will (FOR FREE) send you some neat methods to increase the money you will receive with this plan. Why?... Why not? I'm not a selfish jerk...I like helping out others. E-mail just makes it a touch easier and cheaper, too! After I drop off the list, I can no longer offer you this advice, obviously, but maybe someone else who gets my tips will offer and simply replace my name on this step number 9. Good luck and give this plan your all, it will definitely pay off! Like Mike said, HAVE FUN WITH IT!!! 10. (This comment added by Mike Lorincz) Hell dude, this is great, just send the money and wait like 1 week, then all of a sudden, BOOOOOOM! Mail flood full of dollar bills. Hahahah its great ****************************************************************** ****************************************************************** THE NAMES LIST THE NAMES LIST THE NAME LIST ****************************************************************** * HONESTY IS WHAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL!!! * * 1. Shane Uhlir * 121 S. Beltwoods Dr. * DeSoto, TX 75115 * * 2. Sandy Kim * 3047 David Ave #10 * Campbell, CA 95128 * * 3. Kevin Warkentin * 1709 Ulex * McAllen, TX 78504 * * 4. Ernie Hunter * 1179 Chestnut Avenue * Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, Canada, S6H 1A9 * * 5. Ernest Aleixandre * 108 Cedar Meadow Drive * Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada, S4X 3J6 * *********************************************************************** This works, I did it and have already received $682.00 in the past week. ************************************************************************
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT web authoring tools. Date: 10 Sep 1996 16:44:45 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5145tt$omm@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <511ll6$fti@news.gvsu.edu> <511nka$olq@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <sams.842311022@shellx> In-Reply-To: <sams.842311022@shellx> On 09/10/96, Samuel G. Streeper wrote: > When it comes time to hand-edit html (and that time always comes > around...) I use NeXTstep. Edit for munging and OmniWeb for > testing. Also useful under NS is GifOmatic which in my > experience does the best quality tiff to gif conversions; > it seems to pick the palette and gamma better than other tools > and has more options for things like transparency and > interlacing. > There's more than that available... Feel free to visit my pages on "Creating Web sites with NEXTSTEP": http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/ Comments, suggestions, additions etc most welcome! Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT web authoring tools. Date: 10 Sep 1996 16:47:31 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <514633$omp@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <511ll6$fti@news.gvsu.edu> <511nka$olq@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <sams.842311022@shellx> In-Reply-To: <sams.842311022@shellx> On 09/10/96, Samuel G. Streeper wrote: > A comment here, unless a tool has an interface to every html > feature I will ever use (now and in the future...) I will > always have to fall back on hand-munging html, so a > native format really reduces the utility for a lot of people. > Of course I understand that html is grody and notoriously > tricky to write a proper parser for. > Fair comment about the extensibility issue, but "html is grody and notoriously tricky to write a proper parser for"...? Assuming you have a correct DTD, why is this the case? I thought SGML was "fairly strict"? If there are problems, to what extent is this due to the fact that many browsers deliberately allow ill-formed HTML to let people's (where "people" includes me!) mistakes slip through? Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: Ernest Aleixandre Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric Control: cancel <514f8s$a1e@fin.firstnations.ca> Subject: cmsg cancel <514f8s$a1e@fin.firstnations.ca> Date: 10 Sep 96 19:57:44 GMT Organization: First Nations Network Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <cancel.514f8s$a1e@fin.firstnations.ca> Article cancelled by news@service3.uky.edu.
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: searching for geneva-font Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:53:59 -0500 Organization: The MITRE Corporation Message-ID: <jbf-ya023060031009961653590001@news> References: <6GWM8zck-JB@delphin.tbx.berlinet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <6GWM8zck-JB@delphin.tbx.berlinet.de>, M.GUENTSCHE@TBX.BerliNet.DE (mark-oliver guentsche) wrote: > hi, > I am searching for the macintosh "geneva" font for the next. where can I > get this? I don't believe you can. It is a bitmap, rather than postscript, font. The Mac uses it on screen, and for dot matrix printers, but converts it to Helvetica before sending it to a laser printer. Thus there is no need for a postscript definition file that could be adapted to the NeXT. Barney
From: root@ccc1.tamu.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: printing multiple documents Date: 10 Sep 1996 21:52:19 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <514nuj$gk1@news.tamu.edu> Is there a way to print multiple files from an application (or even different apps) at one time without having to go through the print panel for each one? Stephen Johnson stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu
From: dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ATTENTION FIEND USERS Date: 10 Sep 1996 11:18:57 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <5140t1$rc3@panix.com> I have relocated, so the address given for Fiend correspondence in the Fiend "Info->Suggestion..." menu item is now invalid. Fiend correspondence should now be directed to dcl@panix.com. - dcl -- David C. Lambert dcl@panix.com (finger for PGP 2.6.2 public key) (key fingerprint "5F 88 1A 54 3C EA DA FA F5 8E 0B 68 48 4C 02 48")
From: Joaquin <joaquin@apple.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: XWindows for NeXT Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:45:11 +0000 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <323562D6.37D1@apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried to find a site for XWindows. I found one distribution, but it was only a binary for the original BlackBox. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of XWindows for NeXTStep so that I may compile and run XWindows applications? (I thought of running an XServer with AfterStep window manager) - thanks, Joaquin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: printing multiple documents Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960910200105.25474B-100000@charisma> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:02:46 -0400 References: <514nuj$gk1@news.tamu.edu> To: sysadmin@ccc1.tamu.edu, stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu In-Reply-To: <514nuj$gk1@news.tamu.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I believe this is possible only with ASCII and PS files only (and rtf if you have rtf2ps) using 'lpr' See also 'man enscript' TjL On 10 Sep 1996, Operator wrote: > Date: 10 Sep 1996 21:52:19 GMT > From: Operator <root@ccc1.tamu.edu> > Reply-To: sysadmin@ccc1.tamu.edu > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > Subject: printing multiple documents > > Is there a way to print multiple files from an application (or even > different apps) at one time without having to go through the print panel > for each one? > > Stephen Johnson > stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu > > >
From: pollak@mozart.inet.co.th (Dan Pollak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NIS PROBLEMS HELP HELP Date: 11 Sep 1996 10:40:00 GMT Organization: Internet Thailand, Bangkok, Thailand. Message-ID: <5164u0$pg7@chopin.inet.co.th> Well, I screwed-up big time. I have a NeXT on an ethernet with PCs running windows. I was 'playing' with simple network startup and I defined an NIS domain. This NIS domain doesn't exist and now I can't get it to go away. WORSE when I power-up I just go to root, no log in screen, and I can't change any of this because the %^&%^ thing says it can't find netinfo whenever I try to change things back. HELP! How do I fix this (I'm using 3.2 on a black box) Thanks in advance!
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.java.setup Subject: Re: Java on co-Xist Date: 11 Sep 1996 10:38:33 GMT Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd. Message-ID: <5164r9$epo@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <50qe1v$mr5@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> Cc: jorr@math.unl.edu In <50qe1v$mr5@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> "John L. Orr" wrote: > I am trying to view applets with the JDK appletviewer running on a > SPARC Solaris 2.5 machine. The appletviewer works fine on the Solaris > machine, but crashes when I try to view its output on a remote > (NeXTStep) machine using co-Xist (an X client for NeXTStep). > > Has anyone had any experience with viewing Java applets in co-Xist, or > any other NeXTStep-based client? We do it all the time with Cub'X from a SPARC running Solaris 2.5. No problems at all. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3.3 developer on 4.0 ? Date: 11 Sep 1996 11:22:22 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Message-ID: <5167de$i8a@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <DxIL23.35M@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: > The release notes explicitly state that installing NS 3.3 Dev onto > OPENSTEP/Mach would crash the system due to the replacement of an > incompatible 'dyld'! Ooops! Didn't see that - however now I oput the original dyld back then everything does seem to work fine. My problem is that I can't resist playing around I guess.... :-) -bat/.
From: pollak@mozart.inet.co.th (Dan Pollak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NIS PROBLEMS HELP HELP Date: 11 Sep 1996 11:38:51 GMT Organization: Internet Thailand, Bangkok, Thailand. Message-ID: <5168cb$pll@chopin.inet.co.th> References: <5164u0$pg7@chopin.inet.co.th> OK, the answer is: edit /etc/hostconfig so that YPDOMAIN= and everything is fine (sigh) Dan Pollak (pollak@mozart.inet.co.th) wrote: | Well, I screwed-up big time. I have a NeXT on an ethernet with PCs | running windows. I was 'playing' with simple network startup and I | defined an NIS domain. This NIS domain doesn't exist and now I can't get | it to go away. WORSE when I power-up I just go to root, no log in | screen, and I can't change any of this because the %^&%^ thing says it | can't find netinfo whenever I try to change things back. | HELP! How do I fix this (I'm using 3.2 on a black box) | Thanks in advance!
From: pollak@mozart.inet.co.th (Dan Pollak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can't ping myself! Date: 11 Sep 1996 11:40:03 GMT Organization: Internet Thailand, Bangkok, Thailand. Message-ID: <5168ej$pll@chopin.inet.co.th> My hostname is law.com yet "ping law.com" yields the error message "ping: unknown host law.com" how do I convince my computer to find itself? Thanks in advance!
From: Chris Barnes <cbarnes@cis.tamu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: printing to an NT server Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:31:25 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960911092854.21189A-100000@cis> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to set my NeXT to print to a LAN running NT 3.51. I have an account on the NT server, but don't know how to set the NeXT to attach to the server so I can use its printer. Back when the server ran Novell, I ran the NeXT Novell client and was able to do this, but now I don't have a clue. Suggestions? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Barnes (409) 846-3273 (home) chris-barnes@tamu.edu (409) 845-8300 (work) http://helper.tamu.edu/STAFF/cbarnes/
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: multi-volume DOS disks? Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:40:27 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0mBhpfG00WBOQ1pOBh@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <516j07$p0a@bignews.shef.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <516j07$p0a@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 11-Sep-96 multi-volume DOS disks? by mmalcolm crawford@shef.a > Is there any way of creating a multi-volume set of DOS disks under > NEXTSTEP? I have a big (5MB) file I want to transfer to a standalone > Wintel PC... You're looking for a binary split. There is actually a program named 'bsplit' somewhere, or you can use GNU split (from textutils). -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: multi-volume DOS disks? Date: 11 Sep 1996 14:40:07 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <516j07$p0a@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Is there any way of creating a multi-volume set of DOS disks under NEXTSTEP? I have a big (5MB) file I want to transfer to a standalone Wintel PC... If any replied could be cc-ed to me by email it would be much appreciated. Best wishes, mmalc. <m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk> --
From: jsturm@zenacomp.zenacomp.com (Jeff Sturm) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.java.setup Subject: Re: Java on co-Xist Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.java.setup Date: 11 Sep 1996 13:30:54 -0400 Organization: ZenaComp Inc. Message-ID: <516t0e$9r6@zenacomp.zenacomp.com> References: <50qe1v$mr5@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <5164r9$epo@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Paul Lynch (paul@plsys.co.uk) wrote: : In <50qe1v$mr5@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> "John L. Orr" wrote: : > I am trying to view applets with the JDK appletviewer running on a : > SPARC Solaris 2.5 machine. The appletviewer works fine on the Solaris : > machine, but crashes when I try to view its output on a remote : > (NeXTStep) machine using co-Xist (an X client for NeXTStep). : > : > Has anyone had any experience with viewing Java applets in co-Xist, or : > any other NeXTStep-based client? : We do it all the time with Cub'X from a SPARC running Solaris 2.5. No : problems at all. Hmm... what color model is supported by co-Xist? Does it have 8-bit color? Not all X server configuations are yet supported by the JDK, I seem to remember. Try xdpyinfo from an xterm window, and see what it says about co-Xist. -- Jeff Sturm ZenaComp Incorporated jsturm@zenacomp.com
From: Myoung-Cheol Kim <mckim@online.ru> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems with Interface Builder of OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 23:45:20 +0400 Organization: Sovam Teleport Message-ID: <323716D0.46FB@online.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Recently I purchased and installed OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach on my pentium pc. The problem is that when I start to work with Interface Builder and try to attach Return Button - actually "NSReturnSign" - on my button in my application window, there was no symbol of "NSReturnSign" on Images display of Nib file window. I'm absolutely beginner with OPENSTEP and please help me how to find this "NSReturnSign". Myoung-Cheol Kim mckim@online.ru Moscow, Russia
From: "Rob Blessin" <rob@optimal-object.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: XWindows for NeXT Date: 11 Sep 1996 20:30:27 GMT Organization: Optimal Object, Inc. Message-ID: <01bba05b$baf7f120$376df326@void.object-tech.com> References: <323562D6.37D1@apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Joaquin: We sell CUB-X for a demo check out ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/ pub/next Our web site is http://www.optimal-object.com/ for an order form. Best regards Rob Blessin rob@optimal-object.com Joaquin <joaquin@apple.com> wrote in article <323562D6.37D1@apple.com>... > I tried to find a site for XWindows. I found one distribution, but it > was only a binary for the original BlackBox. Does anyone know where I > can get a copy of XWindows for NeXTStep so that I may compile and run > XWindows applications? > > (I thought of running an XServer with AfterStep window manager) > > - thanks, > Joaquin >
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: multi-volume DOS disks? Date: 12 Sep 1996 02:29:01 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <517shd$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> References: <516j07$p0a@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <0mBhpfG00WBOQ1pOBh@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 11-Sep-96 multi-volume DOS > disks? by mmalcolm crawford@shef.a > > Is there any way of creating a multi-volume set of DOS disks under > > NEXTSTEP? I have a big (5MB) file I want to transfer to a standalone > > Wintel PC... > > You're looking for a binary split. There is actually a program named > 'bsplit' somewhere, or you can use GNU split (from textutils). Or /NextAdmin/Installer.app/chunk: [~]% chunk Usage: chunk chunk_size [+first_chunk_pad] filename [dest_dir] chunk_size is in bytes and first_chunk_pad allows space on the first floppy for a README, etc. Nice binary split that ever NS user already has. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with Interface Builder of OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach Date: 12 Sep 1996 02:34:09 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <517sr1$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> References: <323716D0.46FB@online.ru> Myoung-Cheol Kim <mckim@online.ru> wrote: > Recently I purchased and installed OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach on my pentium > pc. > The problem is that when I start to work with Interface Builder and > try to attach Return Button - actually "NSReturnSign" - on my button in > my application window, there was no symbol of "NSReturnSign" on Images > display of Nib file window. > I'm absolutely beginner with OPENSTEP and please help me how to find > this "NSReturnSign". OPENSTEP has abandoned the Return sign icon in favor of the Windows 95 default button with a heavier-than-normal border. This can be designated in IB by entering "\r" as the Key in the Button Attributes Inspector. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199609120232.WAA06287@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 96 22:32:25 -0400 Subject: free X -- feedback Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com I'm wondering how good the free X client is for NeXT (m68k). I'm also wondering what packages are required for setting it up (there seem to be quite a few different parts). Just curious... TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXTstep Web Page: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next Swapdisk/Swapfile Faq: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/swapfaq.html Misc NeXT Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/mailserver
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT web authoring tools. Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DxKo2v.oz0@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 14:25:43 GMT References: <511ll6$fti@news.gvsu.edu> <511nka$olq@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <sams.842311022@shellx> <514633$omp@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <514633$omp@bignews.shef.ac.uk>, mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: >Fair comment about the extensibility issue, but "html is grody and >notoriously tricky to write a proper parser for"...? > >Assuming you have a correct DTD, why is this the case? > I don't think anyone's written an DTD for anything above HTML 2.0. Are the new versions of HTML "DTD-representable"? I haven't really looked at them. >I thought SGML was "fairly strict"? If there are problems, to what extent is >this due to the fact that many browsers deliberately allow ill-formed HTML to >let people's (where "people" includes me!) mistakes slip through? > A great extent, I would say. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: printing to an NT server Date: 12 Sep 1996 08:23:30 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <518ha2$8eg@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960911092854.21189A-100000@cis> Chris Barnes <cbarnes@cis.tamu.edu> wrote: > [...] I have an account on the NT server, but don't know how to > set the NeXT to attach to the server so I can use its printer. [...] Make sure TCP/IP has been configured on the NT server, and the NT LPD service is running. Then look in the section "Using Non-NEXTSTEP Printers from a NEXTSTEP Computer" in chapter 11 of the NextAdmin manual: You simply have to setup an additional entry for the NT printer in your NetInfo database. Replace "PrinterName" with the new name of the printer as it should be seen from the NeXT system, "remotehost" with the name of your NT server, and "remoteprinter" with the name of the NT printer queue. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 Mail: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (MIME/NeXT accepted) WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: NetID@Brown.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where to find Altsys Virtuoso Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:11:39 -0500 Organization: Brown University -- Providence, Rhode Island USA Message-ID: <NetID-1209961611390001@cluster-116.cluster.brown.edu> not sure if this is still of importance, but if it is, i spoke with a guy at the company which "takes care" (not) of it now -- it wasn't Macromedia, although i do not doubt that they own it (i think it was called GSCorporation or so). i have his phone number and name and adress etc. if you're interested. what they do is sell licenses for demos upon request and not much more. (i believe $800). I couldn't afford it. oh well.
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can't ping myself! Date: 12 Sep 1996 22:24:09 GMT Organization: Ames Laboratory Message-ID: <51a2i9$40j@news.iastate.edu> References: <5168ej$pll@chopin.inet.co.th> Cc: pollak@mozart.inet.co.th Dan Pollak wrote: > > My hostname is law.com yet "ping law.com" yields the error message > "ping: unknown host law.com" > > how do I convince my computer to find itself? > > Thanks in advance! I asume you have a standalone machine? If so then set law.com in the local panel of HostManager.app, and give your machine some IP#. DO NOT!!! give it 127.0.0.1, as that # is reserved for "loopback" to the machine called localhost. Use the NeXT default #, or whatever # your sys-admin person has given you.Then, as root, do the following: prompt> nidump hosts . > tempfile Edit tempfile, adding a line for your machine with the proper IP#. Then prompt> niload hosts . < tempfile and now your machine will match law.com to the appropriate #. If this does not work write me E-mail and I will send you a long (and at times amusing) article I posted on this subject a couple years ago. Hope this helps --- Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779 Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov Project Coordinator: Undergraduate Computational Engineering and Sciences http://uces.ameslab.gov/
From: kinau@lennon.csufresno.edu (Kin Hung Au) Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.solaris Subject: (No transparent image) Netscape on NeXT X server Date: 11 Sep 1996 22:04:12 GMT Organization: Californi State University, Fresno Distribution: inet Message-ID: <517d0s$sde@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> Hi Folks, We are running MouseX 2.3 X server on mono NeXTstation. We can remote access X window Netscape and run Netscape on NeXT X server. Our remote machine is Sun Sparc 10 and running Solaris 2.5. We use Netscape 2.02 and 3.0. However, we can't get transparent image working. Did anyone know why is it? Is the transparent image depend on NeXT X window server? We also get some warning messages when we launch netscape from remote machine. Warning: Name: menuBar Class: XmRowColumn Illegal mnemonic character; Could not convert X KEYSYM to a keycode Warning: Name: popup Class: XmRowColumn Illegal mnemonic character; Could not convert X KEYSYM to a keycode If anyone know the answer, please email me at kinau@csufresno.edu. Thanks. --Kin ****************************************************************************** Kin Hung Au Internet Address: kinau@csufresno.edu Instructional Computing Consultant California State University, Fresno Tel# 209-278-3915 School of Natural Science FAX# 209-278-7139 Office of Dean, MS #90 Fresno CA 93740 http://maxwell.phys.csufresno.edu:8001/~kinau/ ******************************************************************************
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: GNUstep/MediaBook Developer CD-ROM OUT!!! Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:58:29 -0500 Organization: Illinois State University- Instructional Technology Services Message-ID: <3238B1A7.46C6@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WOW, check it out at: http://www.net-community.com GNUstep/MediaBook Developer CD CD purchase Price: $30 The purchase of the CD-ROM comes with installation support; resolution of problems concerning installation of the software from the CD onto the user's system as well as help with basic setup tasks comes free of charge. Summary description of CD contents GNU Objective-C compiler and many GNU binary utilities The well known GNU compiler with the most up-to-date enhancements to the Objective-C Runtime Library. GNUstep Base Library A library of general-purpose, non-graphical Objective-C classes. It includes classes for strings, collections, byte streams, typed coders, invocations, notifications, notification dispatchers, times, network ports, remote object messaging support (distributed objects), event loops, and random number generators. GNUstep GUI Library The frontend library of general-purpose, graphical Objective-C classes. It includes classes for events, fonts, colors, applications, menus, windows, views, controls such as buttons, textfields, rich text, sliders, and popup buttons. A backend library is required for a specific graphics system. GNUstep GUI X/DPS Backend A backend library for the X/Windows graphics system. Work is continuing to interface with the Display Ghostscript System so that a completely full-functional postscript imaging system will be available. MediaBook WIN32 Backend A backend library for the Win32 API. MediaBook Objective-C Random Library A freely distributable set of Objective-C classes for psuedo-random number generators and distributions. MediaBook Objective-C 3D Graphics Library A library of 3D graphical Objective-C classes based on top of OpenGL and integrated with the GNUstep GUI Library. It includes classes for lights, shape hierarchies, polygons, polyhedrons, rendering and viewpoint control, and graphical primitives such as cones, cylinders, spheres, and points. Also includes a parser for the Manchester Scene Description language (MSDL) and the Virtual Reality Modelling Language (VRML) Version 1.0 specification. MediaBook Objective-C Speech Synthesis Library A library of Objective-C classes for text to speech synthesis. Currently supports the Eloquent speech synthesis engine and is only available for Microsoft Windows NT and Windows 95. NET-Community is committed to developing and supporting free software. Five dollars from the sale of each CD will goes towards the continued development of GNUstep. Please support free software. ---------------------------------------- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ASCII, MIME, SUN or NeXT Mail; PGP ok. * PGP public key available, send mail with subj "Send PGP Key" Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University Understanding is best learned via experience ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: Bruce Donaldson <bdonaldson@swin.edu.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 14:16:30 -0700 Organization: Swinburne University Message-ID: <3239CF2E.711B@swin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody, I'm very new to NeXTSTEP and while I love the interface and programmer environment I'm beginning to despair of finding a decent word processor or desktop publisher even up to Microsoft's Word capabilities. Any suggestions? I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.3 on intel. I'm about to write up my thesis with tables, graphs, cross references, figures etc. etc. and so don't want to wrestle the editor to get the job done. I definitely do NOT like WriteUp or OpenWrite. Simple problems like if you've got bolded words in a paragraph and change the font size (of the paragraph) you lose the bold effects! And the on-screen look is not even as good as the system editor. What's FrameMaker like? Is it still supported? Any other suggestions or should I bite the bullet and go OpenStep on NT and use Word? Any suggestions welcome Thanx in advance Bruce Donaldson Swinburne University P.S. How do I get the 'delete' key working? ?
From: Bruce Donaldson <bdonaldson@swin.edu.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 14:16:53 -0700 Organization: Swinburne University Message-ID: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everybody, I'm very new to NeXTSTEP and while I love the interface and programmer environment I'm beginning to despair of finding a decent word processor or desktop publisher even up to Microsoft's Word capabilities. Any suggestions? I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.3 on intel. I'm about to write up my thesis with tables, graphs, cross references, figures etc. etc. and so don't want to wrestle the editor to get the job done. I definitely do NOT like WriteUp or OpenWrite. Simple problems like if you've got bolded words in a paragraph and change the font size (of the paragraph) you lose the bold effects! And the on-screen look is not even as good as the system editor. What's FrameMaker like? Is it still supported? Any other suggestions or should I bite the bullet and go OpenStep on NT and use Word? Any suggestions welcome Thanx in advance Bruce Donaldson Swinburne University P.S. How do I get the 'delete' key working?
From: vincent chin hsieh <vch2@columbia.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SB16 troubles Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 15:46:02 -0400 Organization: Columbia University Sender: vch2@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.960912151026.25452A-100000@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently purchased a Sound Blaster 16 Value PnP for use with OS 4 (intel). Compact disc playback is fine, but anything else - system alert sounds and sound playback software - does not function properly, once in a long while belching forth snipets of sound (preceded by a noticeable click) but otherwise silent. Preferences.app indicates that volume is up. Configure.app apparently detected the card and the following settings were engaged, with no apparent conflicts: [Driver: Sound Blaster 16 (8 bit DMA PnP)(v 4.00)] [DMA: 1] [IRQ: 5] [Port Address: 0x220]. Also on the system are an Adaptec 2940 U SCSI controller and a Stealth 64 Video VRAM PCI. I did not find anything helpful in NeXT answers. Can you help me? /vince ps. I also tried installing a Sound Blaster 16 (not plug and play) using the appropriate driver (I think), and the same problem occured. pps. Does anyone knows of a better sound solution for OS 4 and intel, less than $500 US?
From: haas@worldnet.fr (Bertrand Haas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 13 Sep 1996 12:50:11 GMT Organization: sct.fr Message-ID: <51bla3$pjo@news.sct.fr> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au>, bdonaldson@swin.edu.au says... >What's FrameMaker like? Is it still supported? Any other suggestions or >should I bite the bullet and go OpenStep on NT and use Word? FrameMaker is only available on NeXT hardware. I am still using it on my NeXTstation. It does all what you want, but it not for Intel users, sorry.
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:51:34 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <Dxo6A0.3rv@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <3239CF2E.711B@swin.edu.au> In article <3239CF2E.711B@swin.edu.au> Bruce Donaldson <bdonaldson@swin.edu.au> writes: > Hi everybody, > > I'm very new to NeXTSTEP and while I love the interface and programmer > environment I'm beginning to despair of finding a decent word processor > or desktop publisher even up to Microsoft's Word capabilities. > Any suggestions? I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.3 on intel. > > I'm about to write up my thesis with tables, graphs, cross references, > figures etc. etc. and so don't want to wrestle the editor to get the job > done. There is only one tool on any platform for writing a thesis. To handle 200pages of text with (far too many) equations, cross references, citations, figures etc... the tool of choice is LaTeX. Word processors start to fail once the text exceeds about 10 pages. It becomes impossible to maintain consistency of style, and of refrences. LaTeX just starts kicking as the document gets bigger and more structured. If you've come from the world of DTP, then LaTeX looks like a step backwards in terms of UI etc. You "can't see what it's going to look like", but the important thing is that you "can see what your docuement says!". Spend a few days learning to drive it, and you'll not regret it. You might not like this (if you're looking for a nice user friendly solution), but as someone who's handed a DPhil in on time (and seen others go through the same) LaTeX is the tool for the job. Best of all: It's FREE It's on the NeXTStep CD (if not already installed) NeXT-TeX is one of the best versions! $an
From: schaub@tamu.edu (Hanspeter Schaub) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 13 Sep 1996 13:58:26 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <51bpa2$ro1@news.tamu.edu> References: <3239CF2E.711B@swin.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <3239CF2E.711B@swin.edu.au> On 09/13/96, Bruce Donaldson wrote: ...... >I definitely do NOT like WriteUp or OpenWrite. Simple problems like if >you've got bolded words in a paragraph and change the font size (of the >paragraph) you lose the bold effects! And the on-screen look is not even >as good as the system editor. This does work fine in either wordprocessor. I think you are just doing something strange when trying to enlarge the text. I know in WriteUp, you can either: 1. under Format/Font use the Larger button to enlarge the selected text 2. or use the font panel, and select the font size you want, but make sure you don't select anything else (like Times-Roman or Times-bold). If you have multiple fonts styles selected, the font panel will indicate so in the top. You can now choose to only change one thing (from Times to helvetica, form size 12 to 15, etc...). This should be this way for all apps. I've used WriteUp quite successfully, even to write larger papers. You may want to spend a little more time learning how to use the nextstep system before judging too harshly on any of the apps. :) If you don't mind the learning curve, LaTeX really kicks ... on nextstep and is included on the NS3.3 CD. blue skies, HP -- Hanspeter Schaub Ph.D. Graduate Research Assistant Aerospace Engineering Department Texas A&M University http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~schaub schaub@tamu.edu (NeXTmail welcome) We can lift ourselves out of ignorance, we can find ourselves as creatures of excellence and intelligence and skill. We can be free! WE CAN LEARN TO FLY! -Jonathon Livingston Seagull
From: david@onestep.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 13 Sep 1996 13:55:43 GMT Organization: PSINet UK Public Usenet Site Message-ID: <51bp4v$e2d@pub.news.uk.psi.net> References: <51bla3$pjo@news.sct.fr> In article <51bla3$pjo@news.sct.fr> haas@worldnet.fr (Bertrand Haas) writes: > In article <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au>, bdonaldson@swin.edu.au says... > >What's FrameMaker like? Is it still supported? Any other suggestions or > >should I bite the bullet and go OpenStep on NT and use Word? > > FrameMaker is only available on NeXT hardware. I am still using it > on my NeXTstation. It does all what you want, but it not for Intel users, > sorry. Umm, Actually FrameMaker was/is ? available for NEXT, Intel and HP platforms running NS. I think Omni was involved in porting a more upto date version serveral years ago. I know that Lighthouse was distributing it at some stage, they may still be. --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc | UK phone: 01702 426400 | Vendors of NS/OS 351 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | MCCAs, Hardware Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | Apps, Networks Essex | | ISDN, Training SS7 2BT | Email: david@onestep.co.uk | Maintenance England | (NeXTMail/MIME ok) | and Support
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU) Subject: Grabbing directly to Edit.app Message-ID: <DxnC78.1y5@papageno.rim.or.jp> Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU) Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 01:01:56 GMT Hello, I need to grab many screen images into .rtfd documents. Currently I have to select regions in Grab.app, save them as .tiff files, and drag their icons from FileViewer into Edit.app. Are there any sophisticated methods to reduce this procedure? For example, does some inexpensive application allow me to copy and paste screen images? I'm running NS3.2J. Thanks. --- Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB)
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GNUstep/MediaBook Developer CD-ROM OUT!!! Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:36:06 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-1309961036060001@news.tiac.net> References: <3238B1A7.46C6@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <3238B1A7.46C6@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu wrote: > WOW, check it out at: > http://www.net-community.com My DNS doesn't recognize this site, or any obvious modification. That said, is this at long last a release of the GNUStep port? Barney
From: alcord@iafrica.com (Alan Drodskie) Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp,comp.cad.autocad,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.b Subject: CTL3D32.DLL....WHERE CAN THIS FILE BE DOWNLOADED FROM ? Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 15:47:46 GMT Organization: Stewart Scott Incorporated Message-ID: <N.091396.174746.30@196-7-195-143.iafrica.com> Can someone please tell me where this file can be down loaded from? I've tried www.Shareware.com but I wasn't given a download option. Thanks alcord@iafrica.com
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: GNUstep/MediaBook Developer CD-ROM OUT!!! Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:21:52 -0500 Organization: Illinois State University- Instructional Technology Services Message-ID: <323989B3.304@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <3238B1A7.46C6@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <jbf-1309961036060001@news.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hope this helps, after doing a DNS lookup: www.net-community.com canonical name = net-community.com net-community.com name server = stetson.net-community.com net-community.com name server = linus.ocbi.com net-community.com name server = ns1.nacs.net (linus.ocbi.com) inet address = 205.133.178.1 (ns1.nacs.net) inet address = 205.133.179.30 (stetson.net-community.com) inet address = 204.119.48.1 -------------------------------- yes, this is the 1st. release of GNUstep!!! James B. Frazer wrote: > In article <3238B1A7.46C6@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, > eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu wrote: > > WOW, check it out at: > > http://www.net-community.com > > My DNS doesn't recognize this site, or any obvious modification. > > That said, is this at long last a release of the GNUStep port? Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ASCII, MIME, SUN or NeXT Mail; PGP ok. ytalk: eadubie@138.87.201.11 * PGP public key available, send mail with subj "Send PGP Key" Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University "Intelligence is the ultimate aphrodisiac." - Tim Leary ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: multi-volume DOS disks? Date: 13 Sep 1996 10:50:44 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <51bea4$rfv@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <516j07$p0a@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <0mBhpfG00WBOQ1pOBh@andrew.cmu.edu> <517shd$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <517shd$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> On 09/12/96, Art Isbell wrote: > Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 11-Sep-96 multi-volume DOS > > disks? by mmalcolm crawford@shef.a > > > Is there any way of creating a multi-volume set of DOS disks under > > > NEXTSTEP? I have a big (5MB) file I want to transfer to a standalone > > > Wintel PC... > > > > You're looking for a binary split. There is actually a program named > > 'bsplit' somewhere, or you can use GNU split (from textutils). > > Or /NextAdmin/Installer.app/chunk: > Thanks to all who have helped: I think I have to credit Art with the most elegant solution on the NEXTSTEP side of things, however a number of people wondered how to recombine the file chunks on the other side... The solution eluded me for a while. I even started installing the GNUish utilities, since DOS seemed to lack the equivalent of cat. As an aside here, this is a perfect example of the nonsense of the claim that DOS is easier than Unix. I know exactly what I'd have done in Unix ( cat file.? >> newfile ) and it would have been easy. On DOS, I hadn't a clue, and there wasn't anywhere obvious to look. I learned a lot trying to find the answer (primarily just how truly appalling DOS / Windows95 are), however I finally had to ask for a hint for the solution (frustrating as I normally like to work things out for myself -- I just didn't have another day to waste). "Aha!" I'm sure the DOS-users will retort, "But you only knew how to do things the Unix way because you'd learned it -- if you'd learned DOS it would have been easy." This is, of course, exactly my point: there's nothing intuitive about either DOS or Unix, they both have to be learned, and it's probably about as easy to lean one as the other... except that Unix seems more powerful and more consistent. Let's look at the solution. You use the copy command. Want to find out about the copy command? Use "copy /?". Obvious, eh? This givens you about as much information as you're likely to get, the equivalent of "cp -h" with a little more detail. Nothing like the richness (or pervasiveness) of "man". So, the DOS equivalent of cat file.? >> newfile is copy /b file.1+file.2+file.3+file.4 newfile the /b indicates it's a binary file (else you end up with garbage). You're supposed to be able to do this with wildcards, but it seemed reluctant to do so when I tried. Obvious really. <sigh> Now I know how Jerry Pournelle manages to keep finding material for his column... OK, back to work! Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: NetID@Brown.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SB16 troubles Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:41:12 +0000 Organization: Brown University -- Providence, Rhode Island USA Message-ID: <NetID-1309961341120001@cluster-186.cluster.brown.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.960912151026.25452A-100000@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu> In article <Pine.SUN.3.95L.960912151026.25452A-100000@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu>, vincent chin hsieh <vch2@columbia.edu> wrote: > I recently purchased a Sound Blaster 16 Value PnP for use with OS 4 (intel). > Compact disc playback is fine, but anything else - system alert > sounds and sound playback software - does not function properly, once in a > long while belching forth snipets of sound (preceded by a noticeable > click) but otherwise silent. Preferences.app indicates that volume is up. > > Configure.app apparently detected the card and the following settings were > engaged, with no apparent conflicts: [Driver: Sound Blaster 16 (8 bit DMA > PnP)(v 4.00)] [DMA: 1] [IRQ: 5] [Port Address: 0x220]. > > Also on the system are an Adaptec 2940 U SCSI controller and a Stealth 64 > Video VRAM PCI. I did not find anything helpful in NeXT answers. > > Can you help me? > > /vince > > ps. I also tried installing a Sound Blaster 16 (not plug and play) using > the appropriate driver (I think), and the same problem occured. > > pps. Does anyone knows of a better sound solution for OS 4 and intel, less > than $500 US? Turtle Beach w/ the motorola DSP. "Monterey" or "Classic", i think (anyway, the one which costs appr. $350, and which has the motorola DSP chip).
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Grabbing directly to Edit.app Date: 13 Sep 1996 19:43:23 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <51cdgr$a7b@inet-prime.comshare.com> References: <DxnC78.1y5@papageno.rim.or.jp> Cc: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp In <DxnC78.1y5@papageno.rim.or.jp> Hiroshi TOMARU wrote: > > Hello, > > I need to grab many screen images into .rtfd documents. > Currently I have to select regions in Grab.app, save > them as .tiff files, and drag their icons from FileViewer into > Edit.app. Are there any sophisticated methods to reduce this > procedure? For example, does some inexpensive application > allow me to copy and paste screen images? I'm running NS3.2J. > > Thanks. > --- > Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji > hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB) > Am I missing something, or can't you just use Grab from Services? From your Edit document, select Services->Grab->Window, to grab a window, then click on the camera in the upper right, then select the window whose image you want to pull into your document. This should work for Mail, or any other application that has this type of service enabled. This is one of those NeXTStep features we keep waiting for on other platforms (Sure, you can do something similar in one or two specific apps in windoze, but the whole Services concept is missing). Regards, Alan Frabutt mailto://alanf@izzy.net disclaimer: my opinions are MY opinions.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: pre 4.0 Backspace module fix? Message-ID: <DxorMF.MBG@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:32:39 GMT I just installed 4.0 on one of my workstations and tried to use Backspace. It seems that all of the pre-40.0 backspace modules refuse to load. I assume that this is due to the old dynld being incompatible with the new dynld. Anyway, has anyone come up with a clever and efficient fix so that we can use all of our great Backspace modules? Steven -- Steven M. Boker (219) 631-4941 (office) (219) 631-8883 (fax) boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556
From: dan@tome.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Johnston,S740A,7985984,7217266) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 13 Sep 1996 21:12:28 GMT Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx Message-ID: <51cins$fhs@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> References: <3239CF2E.711B@swin.edu.au> <Dxo6A0.3rv@cam-ani.co.uk> Cc: ians@cam-ani.co.uk In <Dxo6A0.3rv@cam-ani.co.uk> Ian Stephenson wrote: --> In article <3239CF2E.711B@swin.edu.au> Bruce Donaldson --> <bdonaldson@swin.edu.au> writes: --> > Hi everybody, --> > --> > I'm very new to NeXTSTEP and while I love the interface and programmer --> > environment I'm beginning to despair of finding a decent word --> processor --> > or desktop publisher even up to Microsoft's Word capabilities. --> > Any suggestions? I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.3 on intel. --> > --> > I'm about to write up my thesis with tables, graphs, cross references, --> > figures etc. etc. and so don't want to wrestle the editor to get the --> job --> > done. --> --> There is only one tool on any platform for writing a thesis. To handle --> 200pages of text with (far too many) equations, cross references, --> citations, figures etc... the tool of choice is LaTeX. --> --> Word processors start to fail once the text exceeds about 10 pages. It --> becomes impossible to maintain consistency of style, and of refrences. --> LaTeX just starts kicking as the document gets bigger and more --> structured. --> --> If you've come from the world of DTP, then LaTeX looks like a step --> backwards in terms of UI etc. You "can't see what it's going to look --> like", but the important thing is that you "can see what your docuement --> says!". Spend a few days learning to drive it, and you'll not regret it. --> --> You might not like this (if you're looking for a nice user friendly --> solution), but as someone who's handed a DPhil in on time (and seen --> others go through the same) LaTeX is the tool for the job. --> --> Best of all: --> It's FREE --> It's on the NeXTStep CD (if not already installed) --> NeXT-TeX is one of the best versions! --> I'm afraid I couldn't agree more. All dissertations in my lab have been done with LaTeX for the past 10 years or so. We, of course, also use it for papers, chapters, and books. Combined with TeXview, dvips, Emacs (with Nlatex), and TIB for references, it is hard to beat. It is worth the effort to learn because you save time in the long run. dan -- Dan Johnston Division of Neuroscience Baylor College of Medicine 1 Baylor Plaza Houston, TX 77030 Internet: dan@mossy.bcm.tmc.edu (NeXTmail ok) Voice Phone: (713) 798-5984 FAX: (713)799-8544 or 798-3946
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS4 Alpha Binaries... Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 21:20:12 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <51cjap$69k@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <50v1na$6ch@news3.digex.net> <3233494A.C05@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> wrote: >Well, as Apple does, why not just release the damn things and put them >in the "unsupported" directory and status. Since most of the UNIX part >of NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP for MACH are "unsupported" anyways! i.e. >sendmail... Because they won't work? The apps on that early pre-release are linked against shared libraries on that release, which implement an early, not quite finished OPENSTEP API. The API has changed considerably since then. Attempts to run the apps on the shipped 4.0 release will result in unresolved references at launch time. Even if you got past that, you'd get bit by 'class does not respond to' errors for selectors that changed, went away, or had parameters changed. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net
From: jenr@Eng.Sun.COM (Jennifer Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Lighthouse/SUN Date: 13 Sep 1996 21:41:34 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <51ckee$mn2@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> All positions located in San Mateo, California. Lighthouse Design, a newly acquired Sun Microsystems, Inc. business, is a leading innovator in Internet/Intranet development tools and productivity applications. If you're interested in creating, marketing or selling next generation products and development tools for Javat, OpenStep and the Web, Lighthouse Design is at the forefront of this burgeoning marketplace. For more info on our technology, visit our Web site at: www.lighthouse.com. Java/OpenStep Application Engineer Responsible for OO programming, Obj-C/C++/Java, Solarisr/WinNT and NeXTSTEP. Requires experience in creating shipping products, and a taste for small, highly energized teams. Knowledge of productivity applications (as user or developer), 1+ years of experience and a BA/BSCS preferred. Job Code: JOAE Java/OpenStep Application Development Managers You will work with OO programming, Obj-C/C++/Java, Solaris and NeXTSTEP. Requires a minimum 2 years of experience managing a group of at least 4 people, experience in managing shipping products, and the ability to manage/motivate small teams. A BS/MSCS or equivalent is preferred, as is knowledge of productivity applications (as user or creator). Job Code: JOADM Software Quality Assurance Manager Qualifications include experience in testing, specifically on software for a shipping product, client/server development, test automation; the ability to manage, create and execute test plans and a minimum of 2 years of experience managing a group of at least 4 people. Requires solid software QA practice and communication skills. A BS/MSCS or equivalent is preferred. Job Code: SQAM Software Quality Assurance Engineer Requires experience with OO programming and C++/Java, plus solid software QA practices and solid communication skills. You must have the ability to create and execute test plans, and possess an aptitude for troubleshooting and working in a team environment. Experience with client/ server development and test automation is preferred, as is a BA/BSCS or equivalent. Job Code: SQAE Java Product Development Managers You will manage design/development of Java applications and components for a broad product line. You'll also have the opportunity to guide next generation Internet application development. Requires a BA/BSCS, a background with OO programming, Java/C++/Obj-C (architecture preferred), a minimum of 2 years' experience managing a group of at least 4 Engineers and creating/shipping products. Knowledge of productivity applications (as user or developer) is preferred. Job Code: JPDM System Administrator Assist in supporting the day-to-day operations of the company. This will include Web site maintenance, writing of tools, helping users find solutions to their problems, user accounts, back-up maintenance, installing new versions of software and FTP site maintenance. Requires a BS in a related field; 1-3 years of experience; strong skills in C/C++, OO technologies, UNIXr, HTML and web site maintenance. Experience in system admin., NT/Solaris/Java, PC hardware installation and OpenStep/NeXTSTEP a plus. Job Code: SA Technical Writer Primary responsibilities include documenting object-based software tools, creating whitepapers and other technical marketing materials. Requires 3+ years of relevant experience, software documenting experience, an understanding of OO technology (some programming experience with Java, C++, Obj- C, or SmallTalkr preferred), as well as excellent writing skills. Job Code: TW Sales Systems Engineer This position requires 3-5 years of relevant experience, OO programming experience, knowledge of software development tools and market, as well as Java, Obj-C or other OO languages. Job Code: SSE Sales Representative Requires knowledge of software industry trends, OO and Java development tools. Requirements also include 5+ years of relevant experience and advanced technical selling skills. Job Code: SR Graphic Designer This position requires Web design experience, user interface knowledge, experience with Adobe Photoshopr, Illustratorr or equivalent package, as well as a productivity software background. Human Computer Interaction (HCI) experience is a plus. Job Code: GD Play an important part in the development of Sun's OpenStep programming environment. Working with a small group, you will make strong contributions from working with the original NeXT source to designing new code and functionality. OpenStep Application Engineer Requires a BSCS or equivalent and OO programming, C++, Solaris and NeXTSTEP experience. Job Code: OAE OpenStep AppKit Engineer Requires a background in OO programming, ToolKit design, XWindows and NeXTSTEP and a MSCS or equivalent. Job Code: OAE2 OpenStep Compiler Engineer Requires an MSCS and Obj-C/C++ Compiler and Solaris experience. Job Code: OCE For consideration, please send your resume, INDICATING JOB CODE, to: Sun Microsystems, Inc., 2550 Garcia Ave., Dept. NSF0908AB/JR, M/S MPK16-203, Mountain View, CA 94043-1100; or email to staffing33@bruin.corp.sun.com or fax to (415) 786-9556. Sun is proud to ensure that equal talent always gets equal opportunity.
From: alisi (Antony Garrett Lisi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: aCADemy Message-ID: <3239d53a.0@news1.abac.com> Date: 13 Sep 96 21:42:18 GMT Does anyone have a working copy of ACADEMY? It's a nice CAD program for NeXT. I found it on the archives but it's a demo version and all the leads (phone numbers, authors, etc.) to licensing it are dead ends. I'm looking for CAD for my NeXT... Thanks -Garrett -- .-===_ A.Garrett Lisi alisi@ucsd.edu .' / \ ^+^ NeXT mail-> .' |\o \ ^+^ aglisi@heaviside.ucsd.edu -' | h\ Physics Department ___/(_ \^ University of California, San Diego ='____.\ `~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'~~~~\{~
From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to find Altsys Virtuoso Date: 13 Sep 1996 23:45:50 GMT Organization: Mlink Internet, Montreal, Canada Message-ID: <51crne$ges@neon.Mlink.NET> References: <NetID-1209961611390001@cluster-116.cluster.brown.edu> In-Reply-To: <NetID-1209961611390001@cluster-116.cluster.brown.edu> On 09/12/96, NetID@Brown.edu wrote: > not sure if this is still of importance, but if it is, i spoke > with a guy at the company which "takes care" (not) of it now -- > it wasn't Macromedia, although i do not doubt that they own it > (i think it was called GSCorporation or so). i have his phone > number and name and adress etc. if you're interested. what they > do is sell licenses for demos upon request and not much more. > (i believe $800). I couldn't afford it. oh well. ============================= Virtuoso has been unsupported for well over a year now. I suggest you check out the new SuperDraw 4. See: www.mlink.net/~tralala/ Great commercial & academic prices too! =============================
From: jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pine + NeXT/Black -- Is this a known problem? Date: 14 Sep 1996 01:34:56 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <51d240$o7j@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> I have a NeXTstation connected to the net at my office, with Pine installed. I would like to use this program for email, and to access it from a PC at home. However, I have the following INFURIATING problem: I can't get it to recognize a carriage return properly. Though the software I am using at home sends a ^M, by the time it gets to Pine, it is a ^J (which means something else to Pine). How can I get it to be a ^M for Pine? What I have tried: several different PC terminal programs (all set to send ONLY a CR (= ^M) for carriage return. Also, I have the same promlem connecting with my NeXTstation at home, using Terminal + kermit. So, I'm pretty sure that what's being sent is a ^M. I have tried VT100 and also ANSI teminal emulation at home (with the corresponding $TERM definition on the next at the office). Here's a further perplexity. The University runs Pine on Solaris (and, before that, on SunOS), and the same problem does NOT arise. This disparity has been apparent also over several versions of Pine, including the newest, 3.95. So, why can Pine on Solaris handle my ^M characters from home (from several different machine/software combinations) just fine, while Pine on my NeXT can't handle it no matter what I try? Or, more to the point, what can I do to get Pine on my NeXT to work properly, when accessed by remote login? John Haugeland haugelan+@pitt.edu
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (BongOk Kim (kornet)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: My Virtuoso works Date: 14 Sep 1996 03:21:56 GMT Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <51d8ck$qqr@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> > >Virtuoso has been unsupported for well over a year now. Yes. But I still working with Virtuoso2.0 Here are My Virtuoso works. http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/guide.html YoungHoon Kil From South Korea email: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Home page: http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai
From: "Dennis M. Thielen" <dt10332@navix.net> Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp,comp.cad.autocad,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.b Subject: Re: CTL3D32.DLL....WHERE CAN THIS FILE BE DOWNLOADED FROM ? Date: 14 Sep 1996 08:29:54 GMT Organization: Net~User Message-ID: <01bba216$83d86dc0$1091f2cd@dt10332.ltec.net> References: <N.091396.174746.30@196-7-195-143.iafrica.com> Why not try: <A HREF=ftp://ftp.microsoft.com>ftp.microsoft.com</A> or <A HREF=http://www.microsft.com/>Microsoft</A> I hope this helps. Of course, if nothing else, I could send it to you. Alan Drodskie <alcord@iafrica.com> wrote in article <N.091396.174746.30@196-7-195-143.iafrica.com>... > Can someone please tell me where this file can be down loaded from? > I've tried www.Shareware.com but I wasn't given a download option. > Thanks > alcord@iafrica.com > >
From: jhills@unix.infoserve.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Double-sided printing of .ps files Date: 14 Sep 1996 17:16:30 GMT Message-ID: <51ep9e$rcb@news.infoserve.net> Hi I am looking for pointers to a utility to enable double-sided printing of .ps files. I seem to vaguely remember a reference from years back. Thanks
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Grabbing directly to Edit.app Message-ID: <9609131948.AA22708@basil.icce.rug.nl> Date: 13 Sep 96 19:48:47 GMT Sender: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Warty Wolfs In article <DxnC78.1y5@papageno.rim.or.jp>, you wrote: > I need to grab many screen images into .rtfd documents. > Currently I have to select regions in Grab.app, save > them as .tiff files, and drag their icons from FileViewer into > Edit.app. Are there any sophisticated methods to reduce this > procedure? For example, does some inexpensive application > allow me to copy and paste screen images? I'm running NS3.2J. Grab ;-) Seriously, with Grab you can, in this order: - grab an image - copy it to the pasteboard with Cmd-C - switch to an (rtf(d)) Edit window and paste the image directly. No need to save the intermediate tiff file. (Disclaimer: I'm running 3.3 so your mileage may vary.) Hope this helps, Tom. --- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "Ed is the standard text editor" __/ _/_/ -- Unix Programmer's Manual
From: stefanos@Vir.com (Stefanos Kiakas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TIFFany Web site Date: 12 Sep 1996 03:31:46 -0400 Organization: Communications Vir, Internet Access Montreal. Message-ID: <518e92$17i@Vir.com> ( I posted this to comp.sys.next.advocacy, but I guess it's no longer a NeXT group with all the ActiveX and Java threads. ) Some time ago there was talk about creating a Web site about tips on using TIFFany. Was this Web site established? If not, is anyone planning to create such a Web site? It would be extremely nice to exchange information and actions. Before I try and build it, I'm looking for an action to wrap text around a cylinder, like the action which wraps an image around a sphere. Any one have this type of action? Thanx, stef
From: rupert@blitzen.noir.net (Hans Rupert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SB16 troubles Date: 14 Sep 1996 23:02:49 GMT Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. The Wisconsin ISP 414-476-4266 http://www.inc.net Message-ID: <51fdip$j21@news.inc.net> References: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.960912151026.25452A-100000@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu> Cc: vch2@columbia.edu >>Can you help me? >>ps. I also tried installing a Sound Blaster 16 (not plug and play) using >>the appropriate driver (I think), and the same problem occured. >>pps. Does anyone knows of a better sound solution for OS 4 and intel, less >>than $500 US? Hi - I am having similar troubles on a souped-up P166/Asus/Triton motherboard. Everything worked fine with the P90/SB16 combo. I am going to get the ENSONIQ card, which has a DSP and MIDI control (even under NS Intel). I happily [and finally] found about this combo from the following source: http://www.nwlink.com/cyberartists/brianw/ss_nsi.html The card and working NS driver are supposed to cost $150 - total. BTW, the driver is only $10 from Brian Willoughby! Pretty neat, huh? Luck! -- Hans Rupert <rupert@noir.net> / NeXTmail or MIME encouraged Direktor noir 815.963.6996 vox 815.963.6999 fax
From: karin@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (karin rabe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: rtf files to the web Date: 15 Sep 1996 01:14:50 GMT Organization: Yale University Message-ID: <51flaa$jcc@news.ycc.yale.edu> I have a number of rtf documents (prepared with Edit) that I would like to include on my home page on the web as links. Any help as to a simple way to do this (eg rtf to html filters for Nextstep) would be much appreciated! Karin Rabe
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 14 Sep 1996 18:24:22 GMT Organization: Navigator Message-ID: <51et8m$ek@marsu.navigator.de> References: <3239CF2E.711B@swin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: bdonaldson@swin.edu.au In <3239CF2E.711B@swin.edu.au> Bruce Donaldson wrote: > I'm about to write up my thesis with tables, graphs, cross references, > figures etc. etc. and so don't want to wrestle the editor to get the job > done. > > I definitely do NOT like WriteUp or OpenWrite. Simple problems like if > you've got bolded words in a paragraph and change the font size (of the > paragraph) you lose the bold effects! And the on-screen look is not even > as good as the system editor. > > What's FrameMaker like? Is it still supported? Any other suggestions or > should I bite the bullet and go OpenStep on NT and use Word? FrameMaker is not supported any more, but you still can purchase it. It is by far the best application for writing a thesis, if you don't like TeX. Unfortunately, it is incredibly expensive, especially if you compare it with the Windows release. > How do I get the 'delete' key working? FrameMaker is capable of elementary Emacs keycodes, so you can do a 'delete' with Ctrl-D. -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.navigator.de/
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 14 Sep 1996 18:20:38 GMT Organization: Navigator Message-ID: <51et1m$ek@marsu.navigator.de> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <51bla3$pjo@news.sct.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: haas@worldnet.fr In <51bla3$pjo@news.sct.fr> Bertrand Haas wrote: > In article <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au>, bdonaldson@swin.edu.au says... > >What's FrameMaker like? Is it still supported? Any other suggestions or > >should I bite the bullet and go OpenStep on NT and use Word? > > FrameMaker is only available on NeXT hardware. I am still using it > on my NeXTstation. It does all what you want, but it not for Intel users, > sorry. Nope. FrameMaker is also available for Intel and HPPA architecture. -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.navigator.de/
From: "Robert D. Budd" <rbudd@voyager.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 03:28:01 -0400 Organization: Voyager Information Networks, Inc. Message-ID: <323BB001.42AF@voyager.net> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bo Yang wrote: > I havn't seen your work but it sounds fantastic. You'll need some good hackers > to patch the Win95 binary and make the windows look like NeXTSTEP as well. > But that's possible, and once I had a vision of gethering some Chinese hackers > and get this dirty job going (We're good at patching up binaries. :-). well, > at least to make the English applications compitable with Chinese language.) > but, what the heck, NeXTSTEP window bars with Win95 widgets might simply look > awful. I think it would be killer to have an app that would emulate the NeXTSTEP window bars under Win95. I haven't seen any kinda of Widget support for Win95 is this possible?
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 15 Sep 1996 01:58:49 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. Message-ID: <51fnsp$6sr@ralph.vnet.net> References: <51bla3$pjo@news.sct.fr> Bertrand Haas writes > FrameMaker is only available on NeXT hardware. I am still using it > on my NeXTstation. It does all what you want, but it not for Intel users, > sorry. That is incorrect. FrameMaker 3.2 is available for NeXT computers, x86 PCs, and HP PA-RISC computers. I use it on NEXTSTEP 3.2, 3.3, and OPENSTEP 4.0 on both NeXT computers and x86 PCs, and it works great. Best regards, Roland Telfeyan roland@telf.com
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT web authoring tools. Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 14:38:21 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <QmD4oR600WBO812Gh=@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <511ll6$fti@news.gvsu.edu> <511nka$olq@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <sams.842311022@shellx> In-Reply-To: <514633$omp@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Sep-96 Re: NeXT web authoring tools. by mmalcolm crawford@shef.a >> A comment here, unless a tool has an interface to every html >> feature I will ever use (now and in the future...) I will >> always have to fall back on hand-munging html, so a >> native format really reduces the utility for a lot of people. >> Of course I understand that html is grody and notoriously >> tricky to write a proper parser for. > > Fair comment about the extensibility issue, but "html is grody and > notoriously tricky to write a proper parser for"...? I believe that HTML is not LALR(1) parsable. That means that it is not possible to use a left-recursive parser with one token of look-ahead to be able to correctly parse all of the valid HTML pages. So you have to hand-write your parser, since the standard lex/yacc (or flex/bison) lexer/parser generator tools are inadequate The issue of parseability is complicated, but the basic problem with HTML is that you cannot express the language as a context-free grammar, and it is desirable for error-handling to be more sophisticated than is reasonable to do using a LALR(1) parser. > Assuming you have a correct DTD, why is this the case? The question of DTD and SGML is not directly relevant to the question. Having a correct DTD means that you have a correct grammar for the language, and nothing more. > I thought SGML was "fairly strict"? If there are problems, to what extent is > this due to the fact that many browsers deliberately allow ill-formed HTML to > let people's (where "people" includes me!) mistakes slip through? It's related. It's desirable for a HTML parser to try to display malformed HTML is a reasonable fashion (ie, to have adequate error recovery). Doing the "right thing" in the face of illegal HTML constructs is complicated. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with Interface Builder of OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach Date: 16 Sep 1996 11:36:37 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <51je45$7vl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <323716D0.46FB@online.ru> <517sr1$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <517sr1$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> On 09/12/96, Art Isbell wrote: > OPENSTEP has abandoned the Return sign icon in favor of the Windows 95 > default button with a heavier-than-normal border. This can be designated > in IB by entering "\r" as the Key in the Button Attributes Inspector. > No, please, tell me this isn't so. They'll be underLining Command-key equivalents next :-( Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: Salvo@AccessOne.com(Marc Salvatori) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RDBMS: Standalone OpenStep Choices? Date: 16 Sep 1996 06:25:00 GMT Organization: AccessOne Message-ID: <51irrs$bcb@kanga.accessone.com> I've decided to pursue a relational database, instead of a flat file, for my standalone system running OS40. Apparently Informix, Oracle, and Sybase offer only NT solutions for a Workstation Server. I am impressed with OpenBase; so would not be disappointed if it turned out to be my only option. Have I overlooked anyone else? -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | >< >< mailto:salvo@accessone.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted ><
From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RDBMS: Standalone OpenStep Choices? Date: 16 Sep 1996 13:15:32 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <51jjtk$cfq@news-central.tiac.net> References: <51irrs$bcb@kanga.accessone.com> Salvo@AccessOne.com(Marc Salvatori) wrote: >I've decided to pursue a relational database, instead of a flat file, for my >standalone system running OS40. Apparently Informix, Oracle, and Sybase >offer only NT solutions for a Workstation Server. I am impressed with >OpenBase; so would not be disappointed if it turned out to be my only option. > Have I overlooked anyone else? Yep. msql a.k.a. minerva. There is an EOF 1.1 adaptor for it on all next ftp sites. Sorry, I have no references handy. Regards, Aleksey
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with Interface Builder of OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach Date: 16 Sep 1996 15:08:38 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <51jqhm$b7@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> References: <323716D0.46FB@online.ru> <517sr1$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <51je45$7vl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: > On 09/12/96, Art Isbell wrote: > > OPENSTEP has abandoned the Return sign icon in favor of the Windows 95 > > default button with a heavier-than-normal border. This can be designated > > in IB by entering "\r" as the Key in the Button Attributes Inspector. > > > No, please, tell me this isn't so. > > They'll be underLining Command-key equivalents next :-( Yep, that's supported in Wind.., er, OPENSTEP 4.0 also. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: bj.morgan@ukonline.co.uk (Barry M) Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp,comp.cad.autocad,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.b Subject: Re: CTL3D32.DLL....WHERE CAN THIS FILE BE DOWNLOADED FROM ? Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 00:35:02 GMT Organization: UK Online Message-ID: <51i409$i76@morse.ukonline.co.uk> References: <N.091396.174746.30@196-7-195-143.iafrica.com> alcord@iafrica.com (Alan Drodskie) wrote: >Can someone please tell me where this file can be down loaded from? >I've tried www.Shareware.com but I wasn't given a download option. >Thanks >alcord@iafrica.com It can usually be found on computer magazine cover discs in the UK and installs when required by an application / game. I have a copy of it anyway and certainly do not remember putting it there! Seem to remember from somewhere that this free software thing is peculiar to us Brits. Is it true? Barry --------------------------------------------------------------------------- : People who like this sort of B.J.Morgan : thing will find this the sort Using Free Agent : of thing they like. : ( Abraham Lincoln 1809-1865 ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 16 Sep 1996 11:31:23 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <51jdqb$7v8@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <51bla3$pjo@news.sct.fr> In-Reply-To: <51bla3$pjo@news.sct.fr> On 09/13/96, Bertrand Haas wrote: > In article <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au>, bdonaldson@swin.edu.au says... > >What's FrameMaker like? Is it still supported? Any other suggestions or > >should I bite the bullet and go OpenStep on NT and use Word? > > FrameMaker is only available on NeXT hardware. I am still using it > on my NeXTstation. It does all what you want, but it not for Intel users, > sorry. > Not true -- there are versions of FrameMaker for NEXTSTEP on Intel, HP-PA and Sparc, although getting hold of the latter seems problematical... (Maybe someone from the relevant companies might like to let me know why this is the case...? I don't know why it's such a "secret" -- I certainly didn't have to sign any NDAs to use it, and wasn't aware of any consipracy at the site. It just seems very odd that it's not been made public...) ... however the latest version os 3.2. There's not much extra that a thesis-writer might want in later versions of Frame (as far as I could tell anyway), and I regard it as an excellent tool. It's still a couple of leagues ahead of OpenWrite, although OW is catching up. I guess lack of built-in tables rules out OW for many applications, though. Quite why anyone might consider Word as a preferable alternative to OW I don't know. I'm not aware of many people who have been able to produce documents of more than around 10 pages in Word, and the reliability is awful. I'd rather use LaTeX -- as others have pointed out, an excellent tool (it's just that I always had FrameMaker to hand instead). Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: bullterrier@earthlink.net (Blue Fox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEED ASPI MGR FOR DOS & SOFTWARE TO TELL ME WHAT I HAVE Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 20:22:06 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <323db6ec.8956180@news.earthlink.net> Need software to help to determine what I have in my system...having modem problems. Tell is I have any conflicts, irq's, etc. Also need aspi manager with installation docs for DOS...thanks Blue Fox
From: gilleta@pento.esil.univ-mrs.fr (Bruno Gilleta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Double-sided printing of .ps files Date: 16 Sep 1996 23:02:28 GMT Organization: IMT Message-ID: <51kma4$ikn@imt950.imt-mrs.fr> References: <51ep9e$rcb@news.infoserve.net> In article <51ep9e$rcb@news.infoserve.net> jhills@unix.infoserve.net writes: > Hi > > I am looking for pointers to a utility to enable double-sided printing of .ps > files. I seem to vaguely remember a reference from years back. > > Thanks Hello ! Simply use psnup : psnup -n2 -ofile2.ps file1.ps Bruno. -- ########## Bruno GILLETA gilleta@lim.univ-mrs.fr ########## ########## Laboratoire d'Informatique de Marseille ##########
From: c671143@showme.missouri.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: setting the time problems Date: 13 Sep 1996 16:04:41 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Message-ID: <51c0mq$u9o@news.missouri.edu> I can log in as root and the clock is correct. I can play with the date and time preferences without any problems; however when I log in as a user the time is all messed up. When I go into preferences and click on the clock icon the whole app shuts down. Is there something that I'm doing wrong? BTW, I'm using OS4.0 mach. Thanks. Michael Roberts c671143@showme.missouri.edu NeXTMail capable
From: c671143@showme.missouri.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: floppy problems Date: 13 Sep 1996 16:07:54 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Message-ID: <51c0sq$u9o@news.missouri.edu> I know that my floppy works fine because I used it to install OS for mach, but now it's doesn't work. When I try to intialize a floppy it says that the diskette is bad. When I put in the NeXT device driver disk, and try to mount it, it tells me "it is know safe to remove the floppy." Is there some security setting that I might have switched or could this be some glitch. Thanks. Michael Roberts c671143@showme.missouri.edu NeXTMail capable.
From: martin@usa.net (Martin L. Turnbull) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 2 gigs of web space available Date: 16 Sep 1996 22:39:27 GMT Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service) Message-ID: <51kkuv$h2@shiva.usa.net> Great opportunity for commercial Internet applications. High Plains Internet, hp.net, will host client hard drives. A) full telnet & ftp access & www B) $50.00 set up fee C) $160.00 per month D) Use a hard drive we provide. For more information contact: Seth Turnbull seth@hp.net
From: joandalz@global2000.net (Joan Dalzell) Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp,comp.cad.autocad,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.b Subject: Re: CTL3D32.DLL....WHERE CAN THIS FILE BE DOWNLOADED FROM ? Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 02:27:12 GMT Organization: Global 2000 Communications Message-ID: <51knu1$tcn@news.global2000.net> References: <N.091396.174746.30@196-7-195-143.iafrica.com> <51i409$i76@morse.ukonline.co.uk> bj.morgan@ukonline.co.uk (Barry M) wrote: >alcord@iafrica.com (Alan Drodskie) wrote: >>Can someone please tell me where this file can be down loaded from? >>I've tried www.Shareware.com but I wasn't given a download option. >>Thanks >>alcord@iafrica.com >It can usually be found on computer magazine cover discs in the UK and >installs when required by an application / game. I have a copy of it >anyway and certainly do not remember putting it there! Seem to >remember from somewhere that this free software thing is peculiar to >us Brits. Is it true? >Barry >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > : People who like this sort of >B.J.Morgan : thing will find this the sort >Using Free Agent : of thing they like. > : ( Abraham Lincoln 1809-1865 ) >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can download a copy from: http://www.swanware.com/sfiles/support.html#ctl3d32 Joan
From: john_zollinger@arkona.com (John Zollinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RDBMS: Standalone OpenStep Choices? Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:41:23 GMT Organization: Arkona, LLC Message-ID: <51k70p$q4k@lonepeak.vii.com> References: <51irrs$bcb@kanga.accessone.com> Salvo@AccessOne.com(Marc Salvatori) wrote: >I've decided to pursue a relational database, instead of a flat file, for my >standalone system running OS40. Apparently Informix, Oracle, and Sybase >offer only NT solutions for a Workstation Server. I am impressed with >OpenBase; so would not be disappointed if it turned out to be my only option. > Have I overlooked anyone else? There is the miniSQL database. It is not anywhere near as nice as OpenBase, but it works well for playing around (and it's cheap or even free depending on how you are using it). You can get all the relavant info and download the latest source from: http://hughes.com.au/product/msql/ Note that there is not _yet_ a publicly available EOF adaptor for it that works under OPENSTEP. I have created one for EOF 1.2 and I'm in the process of working on the EOF 2.0 one. As soon as I get them in a distributable form, I'll put them up somewhere, perhaps along with the compiled perl DBI stuff. That is, if there is any interest. :-) Cheers, John Zollinger john_zollinger@arkona.com
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19960917.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19960909.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19960910.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 17 Sep 1996 04:00:00 -0600 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: weekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
From: anch@logiball.de (Andreas Christiani) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RDBMS: Standalone OpenStep Choices? Date: 17 Sep 1996 12:12:52 GMT Organization: Customer of EUnet Germany; Info: info@Germany.EU.net Message-ID: <51m4k4$pr1@news.Dortmund.Germany.EU.net> References: <51irrs$bcb@kanga.accessone.com> Salvo@AccessOne.com(Marc Salvatori) wrote: >I've decided to pursue a relational database, instead of a flat file, for my >standalone system running OS40. Apparently Informix, Oracle, and Sybase >offer only NT solutions for a Workstation Server. I am impressed with >OpenBase; so would not be disappointed if it turned out to be my only option. > Have I overlooked anyone else? Yes, there's another SQL-DB named InterBase from Borland available. Ciao, A.C. --- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LogiBall gGmbH * Innovationszentrum Herne * Westring 303 * 44629 Herne Andreas Christiani * christiani@logiball.de * http://www.logiball.de Tel.: 02323 / 925 577 * Fax : 02323 / 925 551 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hylafax Date: 17 Sep 1996 16:53:05 GMT Organization: Unconfigured Message-ID: <51ml1h$3vb@jaring.my> Has anyone used hylafax on NS3.x? I'd like to send fax's occasionally, but not often enough to justify buying something like nxfax. But I when I do send them I'd like to do more than the one page that the demo allows. So if anyone has been successful w/ hylafax, just drop a note saying: Yes it works. TIA -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Michael Olan Email: michael@rumah.pc.my (NeXT Mail OK) Senior Lecturer - Computer Science michael@ppp.itm.my American Degree Program Fax: 6-03-5482329 Institut Teknologi MARA Section 17, Shah Alam, Malaysia ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Hylafax Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:08:32 -0700 Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd. Message-ID: <323F1350.5E83@mpr.ca> References: <51ml1h$3vb@jaring.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Olan wrote: > > Has anyone used hylafax on NS3.x? I'd like to send fax's occasionally, but > not often enough to justify buying something like nxfax. But I when I do send > them I'd like to do more than the one page that the demo allows. > So if anyone has been successful w/ hylafax, just drop a note saying: Yes it > works. > > TIA > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Michael Olan Email: michael@rumah.pc.my (NeXT Mail OK) > Senior Lecturer - Computer Science michael@ppp.itm.my > American Degree Program Fax: 6-03-5482329 > Institut Teknologi MARA Section 17, Shah Alam, Malaysia > --------------------------------------------------------------------- What is HylaFax and Where is it available. Thanks Scott
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Status of On Duty Date: 17 Sep 1996 22:50:23 GMT Organization: Ames Laboratory Message-ID: <51n9vf$d8s@news.iastate.edu> Recently I have been looking to improve the chaotic mess of my office life, and was thinking of using some sort of scheduling, calendar, etc. package. I looked through the cabinets here and found that my group has an old copy and license for On Duty, which was a product of Digitial Instrumentation Technology back in the NeXTstep 2.X days. From reading through the manual this sounds like interesting software that might be what I am looking for, but it doesn't seem to run under 3.X. Does anyone know if this product is still available? If not has anyone bought the rights to it? Anybody out there have comments on how useful it was/could be? Thanks in advance --- Tom -- Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Applied Mathematical Sciences 515-294-9779 Ames Laboratory 515-432-9142 (home) Ames, Iowa 50011 tlm@ameslab.gov Project Coordinator: Undergraduate Computational Engineering and Sciences http://uces.ameslab.gov/
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Hylafax Date: 17 Sep 1996 21:48:58 GMT Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC. Message-ID: <51n6ca$gbl@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <51ml1h$3vb@jaring.my> Cc: michael@rumah.pc.my In <51ml1h$3vb@jaring.my> Michael Olan wrote: > Has anyone used hylafax on NS3.x? I'd like to send fax's occasionally, but > not often enough to justify buying something like nxfax. But I when I do send > them I'd like to do more than the one page that the demo allows. > So if anyone has been successful w/ hylafax, just drop a note saying: Yes it > works. > For occationally sending a fax I prefere efax (work even for the US Robotics Courier :)) as it is very small and simple to use and setup. Here a sniplet of the readme: Introduction This is the README file for version 0.8 of efax, a relatively small ANSI C/POSIX program that sends and receives faxes using any Class 1, 2 or 2.0 fax modem. For single user systems efax is smaller and easier to install than HylaFAX, NetFax, or mgetty+sendfax. A ``fax'' shell script lets you send, receive, view and print faxes. As one user put it ``EFAX is a nice simple program for single user systems.'' Efax can also work with other software to implement more complex applications. For example it can pass incoming data calls to your current getty program and can be used as a filter by the lpr print spooler to implement a network fax server. The efax package includes ``efix,'' a program to convert text files to TIFF-G3 fax format. To convert Postscript files you will need Ghostscript. To view faxes you can use any program that displays PGM, TIFF, or Postscript files (e.g. xloadimage, xv or Ghostscript). efix can also convert received files to HP Laserjet, Postscript, or PBM formats for printing. This version of the program was written & tested under Linux 2.0. Previous versions have been compiled and used under AIX 3.2.4/4.1.2, A/UX, BSD, HP-UX, IRIX 5.2, NeXT, OSF/1V1.3, Solaris 2.x, SunOS 4.1.1/4.1.3, SCO 3.2.0, SysVR4.2, and ULTRIX 4.3 and should work with minor changes on any modern UNIX with an ANSI C compiler and libraries that include select(2) and termios(4). efax is distributed as a gzip'ed tar file, efax08.tar.gz. It may be obtained by anonymous FTP from sunsite.unc.edu in /pub/Linux/Incoming or /pub/Linux/apps/comm/fax. ... ----- Don't worry, despite its Linux origin is compiles fine on NeXTSTEP using the following changes: Makefile: ----- # Makefile for efax # Change the following to the name of your ANSI C compiler # (normally gcc). CC=cc # Compile/load options (CFLAGS=-O is good). # # For SunOS: add -DNO_STRERROR # CFLAGS=-O -posix LDFLAGS= -posix # Change the following to the destination directories for # binaries and man pages. Probably /usr/bin and /usr/man on # Linux, /usr/local/{bin,man} on other systems. BINDIR=/usr/bin MANDIR=/usr/man .c.o: $(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c $< all: efax efix efax: efax.o efaxlib.o efaxio.o efaxos.o efaxmsg.o $(CC) -o efax $(LDFLAGS) efax.o efaxlib.o efaxio.o efaxos.o efaxmsg.o strip efax efix: efix.o efaxlib.o efaxmsg.o $(CC) -o efix $(LDFLAGS) efix.o efaxlib.o efaxmsg.o strip efix install: cp fax efax efix $(BINDIR) cp fax.1 efax.1 efix.1 $(MANDIR)/man1 clean: rm -f efax efix efax.o efix.o efaxlib.o efaxio.o efaxos.o efaxmsg.o efax.o: efax.c efaxmsg.h efaxlib.h efaxio.h efaxos.h efaxio.o: efaxio.c efaxmsg.h efaxio.h efaxos.h efaxos.o: efaxos.c efaxmsg.h efaxlib.h efaxos.h efix.o: efix.c efaxmsg.h efaxlib.h efaxlib.o: efaxlib.c efaxmsg.h efaxlib.h efaxmsg.o: efaxmsg.c efaxmsg.h ---- Change the default fax device in faxos.h to something reasonable like /* default fax modem device */ #define FAXFILE "/dev/ttyfa" or link /dev/ttyfa|b to /dev/fax ---- For using an USR Courier V.Everything modem you must use option -o f0 ('f' is an undocumented feature for turning on "virtual" flowcontrol, '0' turns on FAX CLASS 2.0 commands. Happy faxing -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Avram Cheaney <avram+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WriteNow -> PC conversion ?? Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:36:24 -0400 Organization: Computer Science Department, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <QmDnLsa00iWT4CcKsF@andrew.cmu.edu> Hello. My boss has about 800 WriteNow 2.0 documents on his NeXt (from a long time ago).. I have to get them over to some sort of PC readable form, I.E. .RTF, .DOC or HTML. I don't really know a thing about NeXt.. I see that it is possible to "Save As" to .RTF in WriteNow, but I don't want to do this 800 times. Is it possible to automate such a thing on the NeXt? Ideally there would be some kind of a command line tool that I could use to make a script. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Please CC: to my email.
From: rhennig@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (Ronald Hennig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Twinsock 2.0 for Next Date: 18 Sep 1996 03:14:12 GMT Organization: University of Alberta Message-ID: <51npe4$7s4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Does anyone have a compiled version of Twinsock 2.0 for the Next? I cannot get the source code to compile. Ron Hennig hennig@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Hylafax Date: 18 Sep 1996 14:20:17 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <51p0f2$2idl@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <51ml1h$3vb@jaring.my> <51n6ca$gbl@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Cc: frank@this.net In <51n6ca$gbl@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Frank M. Siegert wrote: > In <51ml1h$3vb@jaring.my> Michael Olan wrote: > > Has anyone used hylafax on NS3.x? I'd like to send fax's occasionally, but > > not often enough to justify buying something like nxfax. But I when I do > send > > them I'd like to do more than the one page that the demo allows. > > So if anyone has been successful w/ hylafax, just drop a note saying: Yes > it > > works. At one time I ported a copy of Flexfax to NS. Unfortunately, it relys heavily on POSIX and I had to make tons of changes to get it to work. Matter of fact, I had to make so many that I decided not to release it because I didn't want to support it. Recently, I get a newer version of hylafax (they had a name change) and started over again. The number of chagnes necessary hasn't changed. Further, the 4.0 release of NS doesn't even have the cheesy posix support that 3.3 had. So again... I'm not going to continue work on it at this time. I suggest you look into mgetty+sendfax. I had that working at one time or another also. As I recall, it was significantly easier to setup and use. Sorry for the bad news on HylaFax. Hope the other helps. - Steve P.S. I've attached an old file that was helpful with the mgetty+sendfax stuff. Thanks go to Mark for this: I recently compiled mgetty+sendfax, and along with the pbm and ghostscript support I have had for some time, and find that it works great with my USR Courier Class 2.0 Triple standard modem for sending FAXes. I have not set up mgetty to receive faxes yet. The only hack I did was to have NetInfoManager.app redirect the `if' hander to the following script and this allowed me to be integrated into the Print Panel. I also hacked up smail (which replaced sendmail more than a year ago on my machine) to perform an email to FAX gateway. I would be interested in any comments about ensuring a level of security to the programs. For instance, any additional checks on the phone numbers? Ciao -- Mark Salyzyn -------------- /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/FAX.psif --------- #! /bin/sh # Name: FAX.psif # Description: lpd printer interface script for postscript files. # trap `rm -f /tmp/FAX.psif.$$.ps ; exit` 1 2 3 15 cat - >/tmp/FAX.psif.$$.ps ARGUMENTS="`fgrep '%%NXFax %%For:' /tmp/FAX.psif.$$.ps`" FaxNumber="`echo \"$ARGUMENTS\" | sed -n 's/^%%NXFaxNumber:[ ]*\(.*\)/\1/p'`" FaxTo="`echo \"$ARGUMENTS\" | sed -n 's/^%%NXFaxTo:[ ]*\(.*\)/\1/p'`" FaxFrom="`echo \"$ARGUMENTS\" | sed -n 's/^%%For:[ ]*\(.*\)/\1/p' | head -1`" FaxName="`nidump passwd / | sed -n \"s/^$FaxFrom:[^:]*:[0-9]*:[0-9]*:\([^:]*\):.*/\1/p\"`" LOGNAME=root export LOGNAME chmod 644 /tmp/FAX.psif.$$.ps /usr/local/bin/faxspool -q -f "$FaxFrom" -F "$FaxName" -D "$FaxTo" $FaxNumber /tmp/FAX.psif.$$.ps status=$? rm -f /tmp/FAX.psif.$$.ps exit $status ---------------- /usr/lib/smail/transports ------------- # @(#)samples/generic/transports 1.11 9/6/92 04:41:55 obscure: driver=pipe, # pipe message to another program return_path, # include a Return-Path: field from, # supply a From_ envelope line unix_from_hack, # insert > before From in body # comment out the above line for # use with the Content-Length # header fields. # SVR4 mailbox format: uncomment the below 3 lines # remove_header="Content-Length", # append_header="${if !header:Content-Type :Content-Type: text}", # append_header="Content-Length: $body_size", local; # use local forms for delivery cmd="/usr/lib/smail/obscure.sh $user", parent_env, # environment info from parent addr pipe_as_user, # use user-id associated with address # ignore_status, # ignore a non-zero exit status ignore_write_errors, # ignore write errors, i.e., broken pipe umask=0022, # umask for child process log_output, # do not log stdout/stderr ---------------- /usr/lib/smail/routers ---------- # @(#)samples/generic/routers 1.3 8/8/92 16:40:26 . . . . . obscure_neighbors: driver=uuname, transport=obscure; cmd="echo obscure", . . . . . -------------- /usr/lib/mail/aliases ---------- . . . . . fax: obscure!fax . . . . . -------------- /usr/lib/smail/directors -------------- # @(#)samples/generic/directors 1.6 9/6/92 04:41:29 . . . . . # smart_user - a partially specified smartuser director # # If the config file attribute smart_user is defined as a string such as # "$user@domain-gateway" then users not matched otherwise will be sent # off to the host "domain-gateway". # # If the smart_user attribute is not defined, this director is ignored. smart_user: driver=smartuser; # special-case driver new_user="obscure!${lc:user}", # do not match addresses which cannot be made into valid # RFC822 local addresses without the use of double quotes. well_formed_only, -------------- /usr/lib/smail/obscure.sh ------------- #! /bin/sh # Name: obscure # Description: This shell script is used to programatically handle any # users that are unknown to this system, and process the messages so # that they may be handled correctly. The following actions may be taken: # user.name - mail to news gateway # phone number(s) - mail to fax gateway # user name - mail to packet gateway # Only the fax support is in here at the moment. # trap 'rm -f /tmp/obscure$$.t ; exit' 1 2 3 15 awk "BEGIN { in_hdr=1 in_rec=0 } /^[ ]/ && (in_hdr == 1) && (in_rec == 1) { next } { in_rec=0 } /^[A-Z][-a-z][^ :]*:[ ]/ && (in_hdr == 2) { in_hdr=1 } /^[ ]*\$/ && (in_hdr == 2) { next } (in_hdr == 2) { print \"\" in_hdr=0 } /^[ ]*\$/ && (in_hdr == 1) { in_hdr=2 next } /^Apparently-To:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^Message-I[Dd]:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^Status:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^Content-Type:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^Content-Length:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^Content-Transfer-Encoding:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^Expires: +1 month/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^M[iI][mM][eE]-Version:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^Encoding:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^X-[-a-zA-Z]*:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^Lines:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^Path:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^N[nN][Tt][Pp]-Posting-Host:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^Originator:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^Resent-To:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^Originally-To:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^Received:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { in_rec=1 next } /^In-Reply-To:/ { in_rec=1 next } /^Precedence:/ { in_rec=1 next } /^Errors-To:/ { in_rec=1 next } /^X-Mailer:/ && (in_hdr == 1) { next } /^X-Newsreader:/ && (in_hder == 1) { next } { print }" > /tmp/obscure$$.t if test $# -lt 1 -o "X$1" = "Xfax" ; then return="`sed 's/obscure!//' /tmp/obscure$$.t | sed -n 's/^To:[ ]*\(.*\)/\1/p'`" if test ! -z "$return" ; then set $return fi if test $# -lt 1 -o "X$1" = "Xfax" ; then return="`sed -n 's/^X*-*[Ff]ax:[ ]*\(.*\)/\1/p' /tmp/obscure$$.t`" if test ! -z "$return" ; then set $return else rm -f /tmp/obscure$$.t exit 2 fi fi fi return="`sed -n 's/^From:[ ]*\(.*\)/\1/p' /tmp/obscure$$.t`" if test -z "$return" ; then return="`sed -n 's/^Reply-To:[ ]*\(.*\)/\1/p' /tmp/obscure$$.t`" fi name="`echo $return | sed -n -e 's/.*(\(.*\))/\1/p' -e 's/\(.*\)<[^>]*>/\1/p'`" return="`echo $return | sed -e 's/\([^ ]*\)[ ]*(.*)/\1/' -e 's/.*<\([^>]*\)>/\1/'`" if test ! -z "$name" ; then name="-F \"$name\"" fi # check out the phone number, restrict it to a `name' or 7 digit number. numbers= bad_numbers= multi_bad=no multi=no description= for i in $* ; do i="`echo $i | sed -e 's/obscure!//' -e 's/@obscure//'`" case $i in [a-zA-Z]*) if test ! -z "`grep \"^$i[ ]\" /usr/local/lib/mgetty+sendfax/aliases`" ; then if test -z "$numbers" ; then numbers=$i else numbers="$numbers $i" multi=yes fi if test ! -z "$description" ; then description="$description, " fi description="$description`sed -n \"s/^$i[ ][ ]*[^ ][^ ]*[ ][ ]*\(.*\)/\1/p\" /usr/local/lib/mgetty+sendfax/aliases`" else if test -z "$bad_numbers" ; then bad_numbers=$i else bad_numbers="$bad_numbers $i" multi_bad=yes fi fi ;; [0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]|[0-9][0-9][0-9]-[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]) if test -z "$numbers" ; then numbers=$i else numbers="$numbers $i" multi=yes fi ;; *) if test -z "$bad_numbers" ; then bad_numbers=$i else bad_numbers="$bad_numbers $i" multi_bad=yes fi ;; esac done if test ! -z "$bad_numbers" -a ! -z "$return" ; then ( echo "Will not send fax to $bad_numbers" echo if test "yes" = "$multi_bad" ; then echo "This fax server considers the following numbers as not being local calls or to" echo "be unknown by the system, and will not send the following faxes:" echo " $bad_numbers" else echo "This fax server considers $bad_numbers a long distance call, or unknown to the" echo "system, and will not send the fax." fi echo "please contact postmaster@`sed -n 's/^HOSTNAME=\(.*\)/\1/p' /etc/hostconfig` if you think this is in error" echo sed "s/^/} /" /tmp/obscure$$.t ) | mail $return fi if test ! -z "$return" ; then return="-f $return" fi if test "yes" = "$multi" ; then numbers="-m $numbers --" fi if test ! -z "$description" ; then description="-D \"$description\"" fi LOGNAME=root export LOGNAME chmod 644 /tmp/obscure$$.t /usr/local/bin/faxspool -q -f "$return" -F "$name" -D "$description" $numbers /tmp/obscure$$.t status=$? rm -f /tmp/obscure$$.t exit $status --- Stephen J. 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From: lionel@cyberlab.ch (Lionel Tinguely) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RADISU on NS ???????????? Date: 18 Sep 1996 16:19:26 GMT Organization: SWITCH, Swiss Academic & Research Network Message-ID: <51p7ee$q1@scsing.switch.ch> Hello I would like to run ADIUS on intel based NeXTSTEP system ??? Did someone compiled it ?? Do I need to run an Xserver ?? Regards LiONEL -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CYBERLaB NeTWORK<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< lionel@cyberlab.ch (MiME & NeXTmail WELCOME !!) Tel: +41 (0)21 623.66.10 http://www.cyberlab.ch Fax: +41 (0)21 626.40.00 Ask for or my PGP public key ------------------------------------------------------- The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence E.W. Dijkstra Teaching C++ should be sentenced to life imprisonment Me
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Xnext shareware? Date: 18 Sep 1996 17:28:30 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <51pbfu$p5k@inet-prime.comshare.com> Is anyone using the Xnext shareware? I downloaded an incomplete version, apparently sans a window manager, and I can't get it working. I couldn't find the authors email (Stefan Leuker) in the documentation. It would be even better if the Afterstep window manager was available! If I can get it to work, it would be easily worth the shareware fee... TIA, Alan Frabutt mailto://alanf@izzy.net disclaimer: my opinions are MY opinions.
From: ftouhi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Majid Ftouhi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LEDA for Next HELP?? Date: 18 Sep 1996 17:20:07 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <51pb07$a75@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Hi there: I'm using NextStep for Intel, I want to know if i could have LEDA on it, because i have some problem to install LEDA. i loaded the version LEDA-R-3.3.1 When i want to configure with the commande lconfig i get this: tiznit> lconfig cc++ lconfig: uname: not found lconfig: tmp.out: cannot open where cc++ is the name of my C++ compiler (with g++ Library) Could you help me please? -- Majid Ftouhi Departement d'Informatique et Recherche Operationnelle Universite de Montreal email: ftouhi@iro.umontreal.ca (MIME & NeXTMail available) Web : http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~ftouhi ==============================================================
From: (Izidor Jerebic) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RDBMS: Standalone OpenStep Choices? Date: 18 Sep 1996 16:03:25 GMT Organization: Select Technology Message-ID: <51p6gd$j7o@lazar.select-tech.si> References: <51m4k4$pr1@news.Dortmund.Germany.EU.net> In article <51m4k4$pr1@news.Dortmund.Germany.EU.net> anch@logiball.de (Andreas Christiani) writes: > > Yes, there's another SQL-DB named InterBase from Borland available. > They had ported the Interbase as of release 3.3E, and it works only on NEXTSTEP 3.x Intel, and documentation also mentions m88k? (maybe it should be m68k). I'm not aware of any further releases for NEXTSTEP. izidor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: WriteNow -> PC conversion ?? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960918135734.29624F-100000@charisma> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:02:21 -0400 References: <QmDnLsa00iWT4CcKsF@andrew.cmu.edu> To: Avram Cheaney <avram+@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <QmDnLsa00iWT4CcKsF@andrew.cmu.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII assuming that all the files end in .wn: make an ascii file with the contents: #!/bin/sh for i in *.wn do shortname=`basename $i .wn` # you can find 'wn2rtf' inside the WriteNow.app wrapper # copy to some directory inside you $PATH wn2rtf $i > $shortname.rtf done exit 0 save the file as 'wn2rtf-all' chmod 755 wn2rtf-all then run: wn2rtf-all inside the directory with the WriteNow files. If you need help, let me know. TjL On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Avram Cheaney wrote: > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:36:24 -0400 > From: Avram Cheaney <avram+@andrew.cmu.edu> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > Subject: WriteNow -> PC conversion ?? > > Hello. > > My boss has about 800 WriteNow 2.0 documents on his NeXt (from a long > time ago).. I have to get them over to some sort of PC readable form, > I.E. .RTF, .DOC or HTML. > > > I don't really know a thing about NeXt.. I see that it is possible to > "Save As" to .RTF in WriteNow, but I don't want to do this 800 times. Is > it possible to automate such a thing on the NeXt? > > Ideally there would be some kind of a command line tool that I could use > to make a script. > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Please CC: to my email. > > > >
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problems with Interface Builder of OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach Date: 18 Sep 1996 18:29:43 GMT Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept. Message-ID: <51pf2n$cgf@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> References: <323716D0.46FB@online.ru> <517sr1$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <51je45$7vl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> In article <51je45$7vl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes: >On 09/12/96, Art Isbell wrote: >> OPENSTEP has abandoned the Return sign icon in favor of the Windows 95 >> default button with a heavier-than-normal border. This can be designated >> in IB by entering "\r" as the Key in the Button Attributes Inspector. >> >No, please, tell me this isn't so. > >They'll be underLining Command-key equivalents next :-( > >Best wishes, > >mmalc. this seems a fine candidate for a system-wide Preferences setting. i too would be/am sad to see the migration towards the Win95 interface. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ David A. Sinclair - ASCII email: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu NeXTmail: circe@id.wing.net
From: jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 14 Sep 1996 16:31:36 GMT Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs Message-ID: <slrn53lnf7.ga.jbn@mystery-train.cu-online.com> References: <51bla3$pjo@news.sct.fr> <51bp4v$e2d@pub.news.uk.psi.net> On 13 Sep 1996 13:55:43 GMT, david@onestep.co.uk <david@onestep.co.uk> wrote: > Actually FrameMaker was/is ? available for NEXT, Intel and HP > platforms running NS. I doubt you'll find many feature or cost-competitive word processors or desktop publishers for NS. FrameMaker is available for those platforms last I looked, but it's an old version (3.x) that costs a lot more money than it is worth. Investigate using Frame+SGML or the latest version of Frame on a supported platform. Unfortunately, Adobe's FrameMaker feature upgrade policy leaves a lot to be desired, so it might be a better buy to go with TeX if you need equations or if you don't need WYSIWYG.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Subject: fat WriteNow & Improv? Message-ID: <9127cc$1010.fa@news.sfasu.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:01:00 GMT Organization: As little as I can get away with... Does anyone know if fat versions of WriteNow & Improv are available? (Please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu) -- kc -- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka 49860926614586AF "The strongest reason for the people to retain their 54105BA338FBF0FB right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson
From: iainlang@enterprise.net (Iain Lang) Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp,comp.cad.autocad,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.b Subject: Re: CTL3D32.DLL....WHERE CAN THIS FILE BE DOWNLOADED FROM ? Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:55:28 GMT Organization: Enterprise PLC - Internet Services Message-ID: <51pulr$iff@news.enterprise.net> References: <N.091396.174746.30@196-7-195-143.iafrica.com> <51i409$i76@morse.ukonline.co.uk> <51knu1$tcn@news.global2000.net> About .DLLs - losing them, and keeping track of them. Have you checked recently, or at all, just how many DLLs you have in your system? Do a File Manager | File | Search *.DLL in C:\ and all sub-directories and you might be surprised/appalled at the duplications eating up your hard disc. I once read a suggestion in a UK computer mag, to this effect - Move all your DLLs to a special directory (mine is called, with stunning originality, LIBRARY.DLL) and then include that directory in the PATH statement in the autoexec.bat file. In the move, you will have the chance to discard all older version of each DLL - but don't discard any VBRUN100.DLL and VBRUN200.DLL just because you have a VBRUN300.DLL; they're different files and some (older) software will need the ...100 and ...200 versions to run. Now proceed as normal. Sure as eggs is eggs, in the beginning, you will get the occasional GPF come up, saying that the program you're running can't find such-and-such a DLL. I think this means that the program has been hard-coded to look in the same directory as the program and nowhere else. Simply quit, get back to File Manager and copy the DLL into the program's directory. Another benefit of doing the above is that, if you install something to evaluate it, and later to wish to uninstall it, then as most incoming DLLs are installed to C:\windows, you will be able to see at a glance what needs to be deleted. I followed this bloke's advice and have been doing it for about eight months now. I saved *acres* of disc space and got caught with GPFs only about four times. Hope this helps. Yoooors, Iain. "Most progress is the result of the actions of unreasonable men." G.B.Shaw
From: Frederik_Haarmann@brown.edu (Frederik Haarmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 19 Sep 1996 04:52:34 GMT Organization: Brown University, Providence, RI -- USA Message-ID: <51qjii$7t5@cocoa.brown.edu> References: <3239CF2E.711B@swin.edu.au> <51et8m$ek@marsu.navigator.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <51et8m$ek@marsu.navigator.de>, mow@navigator.de says... > >In <3239CF2E.711B@swin.edu.au> Bruce Donaldson wrote: > >> I'm about to write up my thesis with tables, graphs, cross references, >> figures etc. etc. and so don't want to wrestle the editor to get the job >> done. >> >> I definitely do NOT like WriteUp or OpenWrite. Simple problems like if >> you've got bolded words in a paragraph and change the font size (of the >> paragraph) you lose the bold effects! And the on-screen look is not even >> as good as the system editor. >> >> What's FrameMaker like? Is it still supported? Any other suggestions or >> should I bite the bullet and go OpenStep on NT and use Word? dear folks! i have been following this discussion now for awhile, and i finally must make an own little contribution. first off (i apologize for the bad habit of no capitals, but studying language myself, i say change it all to adopt to computer speed, hoho) -- again, first off: i am surprised about the level of confusion re: framemaker for NS intel. of course it exists -- and i fail to see the surprise in this. the problem is, of course, the one that i faced. owning a version of the newest framemaker for windows nt (the sad alternative to lacking NS applications), i was amazed at its capabilities at 100+ pages text handling, graphics capabilities, as well as layout capabilites. put quite bluntly, i bought framemaker for nt and saved the money for such programs as illustrator, quark, etc. ok, so it takes more fiddling, but the capabilities are there. but, oh surprise!, when i finally had installed framemaker for NS, a quick realization hit: development had stopped at windows version 3.0 or so. oh well. still an amazing tool, however, for projects which transcend the infamous 100 page marker. but now to the point: i, too, am faced with writing a longer 'paper' (at least 150+ pages). as much as i like framemaker, i am fascinated by NS's TeX and LaTeX capabilities. so the stupid question after all of the verbal procrastination above is: is it REALLY worth it learning LaTeX for such a linguistic undertaking? my TeX experience on NS is worth approximately 1 week. how fast can LaTeX reveal its advantages (if any), and -- given that i don't have a printer, and so rely on the university's public laser printing access -- how easy is it to print a LaTeX produced file on a PC or mac (i know they'll kick me out of the Sun room) via PostScript (tm, r, etc)? i would highly appreciate any input on this subject matter, or any helpful comment. and now, to make this complete, the personal lament part: i love NS, but it is getting harder and harder to apply to daily needs. are WE selling out or are THEY selling out? oh well, "it's all MS's fault!" hailing MS-NBC, i remain (frustrated)
From: Salvo@AccessOne .COM (Marc Salvatori) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pre 4.0 Backspace module fix? Date: 19 Sep 1996 04:38:52 GMT Organization: AccessOne Message-ID: <51qios$579@kanga.accessone.com> References: <DxorMF.MBG@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Cc: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu In <DxorMF.MBG@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Steven M. Boker wrote: > I just installed 4.0 on one of my workstations and tried to use > Backspace. It seems that all of the pre-40.0 backspace modules > refuse to load. > > I assume that this is due to the old dynld being incompatible > with the new dynld. Anyway, has anyone come up with a clever > and efficient fix so that we can use all of our great Backspace > modules? I have *several* backspace modules that I run under Fiend as a screen saver. All of them continue to run under OS40. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | >< >< mailto:salvo@accessone.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted ><
From: Joe Freeman <jfreeman@freemansoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BugNext under NT? Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 20:20:40 -0400 Organization: FreemanSoft Inc. Message-ID: <323F4058.55B9@freemansoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone give me an idea on what setting need to be made in order to get BugNext to run under NT 4.0? It appears to be having a problem finding the SMTP server, possible due to a registry entry or set of entries. I've searched the online docs that came with the package but cannot find anything. Help or the appropriate RTFM is appreciated <joe>
From: winini@ix.netcom.com(Warren Yamaguchi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: undeliverable registration fee Date: 19 Sep 1996 12:57:39 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <51rg03$f37@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> greetings, i have tried to register two programs and my letters came back. One left no forwarding address (Bob Carleone) and the other (MTE Industries) was undeliverable (P.O.Box). Any help would be appreciated in finding these individuals. thanks...
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:45:18 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <DxzCrK.49v@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <51qjii$7t5@cocoa.brown.edu> In article <51qjii$7t5@cocoa.brown.edu> Frederik_Haarmann@brown.edu (Frederik Haarmann) writes: > i, too, am faced with writing a longer 'paper' > (at least 150+ pages). as much as i like framemaker, i am fascinated > by NS's TeX and LaTeX capabilities. > is it REALLY worth it > learning LaTeX for such a linguistic undertaking? Unless your document is simply running text, with perhaps chapters to break it up, then it's worth it. Any equations, cross-references, citations, contents pages etc , and then LaTeX becomes powerfull. It's also handy if you need silly accents (always try and cite at least one non-english paper, just so you can try out some of the fun letters!). > my TeX experience > on NS is worth approximately 1 week. > how fast can LaTeX reveal its > advantages (if any) Only looks at LaTeX stuff for now. TeX is more low level, and you probably won't need much from that layer. If you've got a weeks experience, then presumably you've produced a document, with the necessary document header stuff - this is the hardest part, and is generaly copied from an existing document. From then on it's just a question of putting \chaper{text} around chapter headings, \section{wibble} around section titles etc. Leave a blank line between paragrahs. \cite{label} is handy for citations, and \label{xxx} is used to mark some text for reference with \ref{xxx}. Thats more than enough to get started. You pick up the maths as you go along ($y=1/{1+x^2}$). The key to it all is to let go of the layout (at least until you know what you're doing). TeX will handle putting your words on the page - the your task is do tell TeX what those words MEAN, in terms of the structure of your document (Ie it knows which bits form a chapter, so can layout the chapter in the best possible way). Theres a document kicking round called "Essential LaTeX", thats a good introcuction to get you started, but sooner or later you'll want to get hold of the LaTeX book (most good book stores). The version of LaTeX distributed with NeXTStep is LaTeX II. The newest version is LaTeX IIe (I think!). There's a pkg which will upgrade pretty painlessly. The old version works fine, but there's little point in learning an old version (make sure you get the new version of the book too). > how easy > is it to print a LaTeX produced file on a PC or mac If the PC or the Mac don't have TeX installed (and you don't want to install them) then it's simply a matter of copying the (probably very large) PS file across. $an
From: ray@mayo.edu (Ray Ghanbari) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 19 Sep 1996 14:25:42 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Distribution: world Message-ID: <51rl56$bfi@tribune.mayo.edu> References: <DxzCrK.49v@cam-ani.co.uk> In article <DxzCrK.49v@cam-ani.co.uk> ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) writes: [...] > You pick up the maths as you go along ($y=1/{1+x^2}$). [...] Since I no longer personally benefit from EquationBuilder sales, I feel less guilty about putting in a plug. It seems that ~1/2 of the people using EqB use it to graphically compose equations, then do a "Copy as TeX" to get bug-free TeX code. I remember in graduate school, a lot of fellow students would come over to use our NeXT's to typeset a couple real nasty equations in EqB, then e-mail the resulting TeX back to themselves. Basically, they had gotten frustrated with the compile/debug cycle with TeX (esp. equations) and wanted to move on with their papers/theses/etc. If you do a lot of equations with TeX, I _highly_ recommend you check out EqB (a Lighthouse product now, although I was one of the primary authors, so I still have some bias ;-) -- Ray Ghanbari Mayo Foundation ray@mayo.edu
From: Mike Bergsma <mike.bergsma@tus.ssi1.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: Useful RTF to HTML convertor for awkward NeXT-style RTF Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 10:02:33 -0700 Organization: Silicon Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <32417CA9.2461@tus.ssi1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Really, I'm not lazy. I've download countless rtf-2-html convertors from all over the place. So far, they've all been worthless in converting NeXT-style RTF documents created by Edit.app. I think that RTF is a Microsoft standard, maybe that's why Edit.app strives to be different, like not using header definitions for paragraph styles. Nonetheless, someone out there must have written a simple NeXT-specific convertor, free of course, that leaps over all the rtf-redundant garbage in rtf files, finding only the relevent tags, and produces the ubiqutous html prize. It would be much apprecitated. -- | _,o^\, >==^.__o--' _ .__,o^\, >==--/^-o__ ___/\ | | >==' \, --' \/ \_, ' ' _/o | | \, | +- Michael Bergsma - bergsma@tus.ssi1.com - Nothing is by accident -+
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WriteNow -> PC conversion ?? Message-ID: <9609182314.AA18076@basil.icce.rug.nl> Date: 18 Sep 96 23:14:03 GMT Sender: tom@basil.icce.rug.nl MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Warty Wolfs In article <QmDnLsa00iWT4CcKsF@andrew.cmu.edu>, you wrote: > My boss has about 800 WriteNow 2.0 documents on his NeXt (from a long > time ago).. I have to get them over to some sort of PC readable form, > I.E. .RTF, .DOC or HTML. > > > I don't really know a thing about NeXt.. I see that it is possible to > "Save As" to .RTF in WriteNow, but I don't want to do this 800 times. Is > it possible to automate such a thing on the NeXt? > > Ideally there would be some kind of a command line tool that I could use > to make a script. There is a wn to rtf filter in the WriteNow.app wrapper. So in Terminal you could do something like (assuming csh): foreach f (...fill in names of *.wn files here...) echo Converting $f ... ...wherever.../WriteNow.app/wn-rtf $f >$f:r.rtf end Don't know if this will work when the file to be converted contains illustrations, though. Hope this helps, Tom. -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "Ed is the standard text editor" __/ _/_/ -- Unix Programmer's Manual
From: stefanos@Vir.com (Stefanos Kiakas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXTSTEP driver Web site request for driver info. Date: 19 Sep 1996 15:30:07 -0400 Organization: Communications Vir, Internet Access Montreal. Message-ID: <51s6vv$bme@Vir.com> Hello, I'd like to ask all of you out there who are looking for a driver or have written a driver and want the NeXTSTEP user community to know about it to send me an email message at stefanos@uniscape.com Those of you who are feeling more generous could submit a "How I developed a SUPERFOO driver" to help other people learn to build/modify drivers to customize them to meet their own needs. (Assuming they know how to program.) Any help would be appreciated, stef
From: kruger@cptca.neep.wisc.edu (Scott Kruger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 19 Sep 1996 21:51:40 GMT Organization: The unconfigured xvnews people Distribution: world Message-ID: <51sf9c$3h5g@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <51rl56$bfi@tribune.mayo.edu> IMHO, LaTeX is worth it and LaTeX on the NeXT is fabulous thanks to InstantTEX. It has buttons for greek letters, mathematical symbols, etc. as well as tools to make tables and Feynman Diagrams. It also can TeX as you type so that it is almost WYSIWYG. You still need to know LaTex, but it takes some of the drudgery attached.I t's awesome and my office is the envy of everyone on the floor because of it. Check it out at ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/editors/ Attached is the README ******************************************************************** * Scott Kruger Engineering Research Bldg * * Center for Plasma 1500 Engineering Drive * * Theory and Computation Madison, WI 53706 * * http:/www.cptc.wisc.edu/~kruger/ Phone: (608) 263-0812 * * kruger@cptc.wisc.edu Fax: (608) 262-6707 * ******************************************************************** InstantTeX 3.1 for HP Installation Instructions To install InstantTeX you should login as root and double click on the InstantTeX.pkg file. Then click on the Install button in Installer. You should then place TeXWorks, TeXEdit from /LocalApps to the dock (a row of icons on the right of the screen). InstantTeX 3.0 and above no longer use the customized version of TeXview. P.S. Make sure to look over the manual. (Use the Help menu in TeXEdit or TeXWorks, and the manual will open in TeXview.) Here is the original README file... ----- InstantTeX is distributed for free. Both a FAT version for NeXT and Intel and a version for HP are available from dmitri@StarConn.com Why InstantTeX? There are many programs which can be used for writing simple text. Some of these programs are capable of writing papers with complicated equations. However, only one of these programs, TeX, works at all existing computers. TeX files can be easily sent by e-mail to people who use different computer systems. This is a decisive advantage of TeX, which makes it a unique computer language for international scientific collaboration. At present, many journals accept papers submitted electronically as TeX files. Even before these papers are published or appear as preprints, they can be obtained electronically as TeX files stored in such databases as hepth@xxx.lanl.gov, hepph@xxx.lanl.gov, etc. There is no doubt that with a future development of electronic communications the importance of TeX will only grow. Arguably, the best computer for electronic communications is NeXT. NeXT has all necessary features to become a very good computer for TeX as well. However, TeX is a very complicated program, and until now TeX on NeXT was not very user friendly. The standard way to use TeX on NeXT was to write the text in Edit and to use Terminal to TeX it. To TeX the file, it was necessary to type a unix command in Terminal. To locate the line with an error, it was necessary to open the line panel in Edit and type the line number there. This was rather inconvenient. It was extremely difficult to insert pictures into the text. And it was necessary to memorize hundreds of TeX symbols and commands. There exist some nice public domain programs for TeX on NeXT, such as TeX menu by Harald Schlangmann, and TeXit, by Paul Griffin. However, neither of these programs is as user friendly as, for example, Textures for Macintosh. There is also a very good program loTeX, by Derek Beatty. It can be useful for writing complicated equations in TeX, but it does not provide a complete environment for writing TeX documents. That is why we are very pleased to present InstantTeX, a user friendly interface to TeX for the NeXT computers. We believe that InstantTeX makes NeXT the best computer for writing papers in TeX and for sending, receiving and TeXing multiple files written in different TeX formats. Main features of InstantTeX With InstantTeX you can TeX your file in any format you wish, directly from Edit, just by pressing a key. The format of your TeX files can be determined automatically. If TeX notices an error in your file, you can press a key and InstantTeX will go to the line which contains the error. This considerably simplifies editing your text. The main advantage of InstantTeX is that it has an Instant mode, which allows you to TeX your file automatically as you are writing it and preview the results in TeXview almost instantaneously. A few seconds after you type a key, the new output appears in TeXview . This is very useful for writing equations, macros, adjusting the spaces and sizes in your file, and almost everything else that you can do with TeX. In this respect InstantTeX is very similar to Lightning Textures for Macintosh computer. Our program works well even on multiple-page documents, due to the speed of the NeXT computers. Moreover, Instant mode now can be used even with multiple-file documents. One can also select only a portion of text to be TeXed in InstantTeX mode. Another advantage of InstantTeX is the existence of TeXPalette, which contains buttons corresponding to Greek letters, operators, relations, and other TeX symbols. Now you should not memorize how to write an integral or a matrix, just click the button, and you will see the result. This means that there is no need to write your equations separately and insert them later into your document; you do everything on the fly. In addition to PlainTeX symbols and commands, TeXPalette contains separate palettes with buttons corresponding to commonly used commands from LaTeX, Phystex, Harvmac and AmsTeX. Do you like typing \begin{equation} \label{...} ... \end{equation} each time when you write a new equation in LaTeX? Do you like typing (\ref{...}) each time you refer to any equation in the text? No such suffering anymore for those who use NeXT! (We are unaware of any similar product for other computers.) InstantTeX has a panel containing buttons `Edit File', `Go On', `Ignore All Errors', `Help With Error', `Quit TeX', `Use Another File', `TeX Again', `Preview'. It is very convenient for TeXing and editing files. You can insert pictures into your TeX files, just by dragging them into the TeX file window. You can easily import pictures from many other applications, such as Adobe Illustrator, Draw and Mathematica. You can also send the files with pictures to people who do not have NeXTs. Now InstantTeX can spell check your TeX files just as easy as any other files. Do you know why more than a half of electronically distributed physics papers contain misspelled words? The reason is that it is hard to spell check TeX documents and few people bother to do it. TeX commands, definitions, references, equations, citations make the spelling process long and difficult. However, InstantTeX can spell check your files TeX-smart, while using the same NeXT graphics user interface to spelling checker. You may send TeX files to people who do not have NeXTs. The files you are going to send will be automatically truncated to 80 or 70 characters a line, and will not contain errors that Mail makes when it truncates TeX files. InstantTeX includes two other programs: Feynman.app and TeXTables.app. Feynman.app allows you to draw Feynman diagrams and other diagrams. TeXTables.app allows you to make and edit tables and then include them into your TeX files. Thank you, - Dmitri Linde Please reply to dmitri@StarConn.com InstantTeX 744 Mayfield Avenue Stanford, CA 94305
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hkhenson@netcom.com (Keith Henson) Subject: Group 4 problems Message-ID: <hkhensonDy0CGH.GtI@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 01:36:17 GMT Sender: hkhenson@netcom.netcom.com Does anyone has a solution to the difficulty Next has in viewing some Group 4 .tiff images? It is a known problem to Next, but getting a fix seems to be somewhere between difficult and impossible. If there is no solution, how about a batch converter from Group 4 to Group 3? Otherwise, we are going to have to rescan about 60,000 pages. Keith Henson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: fat WriteNow & Improv? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960919022912.5816C-100000@charisma> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 02:30:37 -0400 References: <9127cc$1010.fa@news.sfasu.edu> To: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> In-Reply-To: <9127cc$1010.fa@news.sfasu.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:01:00 GMT > From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > Subject: fat WriteNow & Improv? > > Does anyone know if fat versions of WriteNow & Improv are available? "no" and "I don't think so" WN files can be changed to RTF, but I don't know what to do with my Improv files. TjL ps -- if you hear of a fat Improv, please let me know, it is one of the bigger apps I'll miss when this NeXT dies.
From: Etienne_Klein@lca.u-nancy.fr (Etienne Klein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there any good 2D molecular drawing app for NS ? Date: 20 Sep 1996 08:14:42 GMT Organization: CIRIL, Nancy, France Message-ID: <51tjpi$aam@arcturus.ciril.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I'd like an app for NS 3.3 to replace MolDraw (Mac). Is it available or will I need to buy Windows app and run it with SoftWindow ? Thanks for pointers Etienne Klein Laboratoire de Chimie Analytique Faculte de Pharmacie de Nancy France
From: Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for elecronical sircuit simulation Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:45:19 +0200 Organization: Stockholm University Message-ID: <32422F6F.458F@msi.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject says it all: Does anybody know if there is a graphical electronic circuit simulation app written for NS 3.2? Harald
From: charlesa@netventures.co.uk (Charles Ashley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NXFax still around? Date: 20 Sep 1996 09:06:44 GMT Organization: MatriX Publishing Network Message-ID: <51tmr4$rh7@nebula.mpn.com> Hi - I'm looking for NXFax to get my old USR Courier V.32bis working in fax mode with NS/I 3.3. The thing is, I can't seem to find NXFAx anywhere. Are they still around? Or is there any other package which will do the trick? Any input appreciated... C. ========================================================================= Charles Ashley charlesa@netventures.co.uk tel.+44.171.603.1267 =========================================================================
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for elecronical sircuit simulation Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 10:09:54 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <Dy108K.8v6@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <32422F6F.458F@msi.se> In article <32422F6F.458F@msi.se> Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se> writes: > Subject says it all: Does anybody know if there is a graphical > electronic circuit simulation app written for NS 3.2? > There was one written for NS1.0 (!!!!). I don't have a copy, but someone will have it. (Actually I wouldn't mind a copy if anyone has it). I think it was digital only, but it was a long time ago. I'm not sure if it was up to serious use (you could always compile spice!) When ever anyone asks for this I always rememeber a Z-plane filter app. SOMEONE HAS THE Z-PLANE FILTER APP! I WANT IT!!!! Seriously I had a copy in about '91, and it allowed you to drap poles round the Z-plane - it built the digital filter in real time on the DSP, and played white noise through it. If you don't understand the above, then either you don't have an electronics background, or you'd understand Filter dseign a whole lot better if you had the app! I lost my copy, and haven't been able to find it (or find anyone who remembers it!). $an
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for elecronical sircuit simulation Date: 20 Sep 1996 13:03:57 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <51u4nt$5gg@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <32422F6F.458F@msi.se> <Dy108K.8v6@cam-ani.co.uk> ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) wrote: > Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se> writes: > > Subject says it all: Does anybody know if there is a graphical > > electronic circuit simulation app written for NS 3.2? > > > > There was one written for NS1.0 (!!!!). It was called CircuitBuilder.app, and I've never actually used it, but I did save it. I'm emailing it to you both; let me know what you think of it. `Isaac Asimov hired |======================================================= ghost writers.' | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu --`A.C.', Sri Lanka |=======================================================
From: briggman@universe.digex.net (Dave Briggman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax still around? Date: 20 Sep 1996 14:48:36 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Message-ID: <51uas4$tr@news3.digex.net> References: <51tmr4$rh7@nebula.mpn.com> Charles Ashley (charlesa@netventures.co.uk) wrote: : Hi - : : I'm looking for NXFax to get my old USR Courier V.32bis working in fax : mode with NS/I 3.3. The thing is, I can't seem to find NXFAx anywhere. : Are they still around? Or is there any other package which will do the : trick? : Yes, they are still around...NXFax can found at: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/comm/ Your can reach them by email at sales@bandw.com Dave
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for elecronical sircuit simulation Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:05:34 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <Dy1B5B.9rD@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <51u4nt$5gg@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <51u4nt$5gg@news.acns.nwu.edu> jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: > ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) wrote: > > Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se> writes: > > > > Subject says it all: Does anybody know if there is a graphical > > > electronic circuit simulation app written for NS 3.2? > > > > > > > There was one written for NS1.0 (!!!!). > > It was called CircuitBuilder.app, and I've never actually used it, > but I did save it. I'm emailing it to you both; let me know what > you think of it. I've just had a play with it - thanks... The UI is a bit clunky in places, and it doesn't actually solve the equations itself, simply generates then in Mathematica format. The size of the circuit is also pretty limited. However as a free demo from ~6 years ago it's pretty cool (I was wrong btw - it's totally analouge). It's not going to tell you much that you couldn't work out with a pen and paper in an hour or so, but as a starting point for more serious analysis (using mathematica) it's a very quick way of getting the basic equations from a circuit. It's main value however is as a reminder of what NeXTStep was, and what it could have been. It's one of about a dozen apps that shipped with NS1 and 2 that were small, and simple, but genuinely usefull, and interesting. We've been loosing cool stuff like this scince NS2. Every release takes away a few really neat apps - not stuff you use every day, but stuff that 6 months later you suddenly realise is gone, and your saddened by its absence (I've heard rumor for example that TeX is gone from the 4.0 distribution - I haven't looked as I don't use it much at the moment, but I'll need it one day, and it won't be there). $an
From: lnusgmb.nz4jc0@eds.com (Chandra K. Puttanna) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Web browser on NeXT Date: 20 Sep 1996 14:52:58 GMT Organization: EDS Message-ID: <51ub4a$rsc@maverick.tad.eds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi! Is there any web browser available on NeXT .
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Hylafax Date: 20 Sep 1996 08:48:47 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <51tlpf$1vf@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <51p0f2$2idl@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Slightly related question: Does anyone know how to make a Hylafax instalation on our SUNs cooperate with the NEXTSTEP Fax mechanism. We have 200+ SUNs and 40+ NEXTSTEP machines, currently both running their respective Fax software, with modems on two different phone lines. How can I assign a Fax that came in via NXFax to a SUN user and how a "Hyla"-FAX to a NeXT user ? Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Email:droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: kboyes@noc.tor.hookup.net (Kevin Boyes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: EnhanceMail for OpenStep 4.0 Date: 20 Sep 1996 10:56:50 -0400 Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA Message-ID: <51ubbi$gc8@noc.tor.hookup.net> NNTP-Posting-User: kboyes Does such a beast exist? Or maybe a similar bundle? I have recently upgraded to OpenStep 4.0 (Mail.app 4.0) and found the following in the README file... --- Note that this bundle will _only_ work with Mail.app 3.3. Earlier versions of Mail.app can not be extended by external bundles. Initial reports indicate that this bundle will only work partially with Mail.app 4.0 and that configuration is not recommended. --- I have been trying to contact the author, Carl Edman, at the address given in the README but it seems to bounce. Thanks for any help! Kevin -- Kevin Boyes (kboyes@multipath.com) Multipath Business Systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: NeXTSTEP switching to Win95 GUI ? Message-ID: <Dy1Er8.8v@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: news@shinto.nbg.sub.org Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member) References: <323716D0.46FB@online.ru> <517sr1$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <51je45$7vl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <51pf2n$cgf@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 15:23:31 GMT sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) wrote: > In article <51je45$7vl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes: > >On 09/12/96, Art Isbell wrote: > >> OPENSTEP has abandoned the Return sign icon in favor of the Windows 95 > >> default button with a heavier-than-normal border. This can be designated > >> in IB by entering "\r" as the Key in the Button Attributes Inspector. > >> > >No, please, tell me this isn't so. > > > >They'll be underLining Command-key equivalents next :-( > > > >Best wishes, > > > >mmalc. > > this seems a fine candidate for a system-wide Preferences setting. > i too would be/am sad to see the migration towards the Win95 > interface. > Lets not forget that in the first place Win95 migrated towards the NeXTSTEP UI but kept some of the "old" mistakes. I see a lot of good changes which could happen to NeXTSTEP, which would appear to be a migration towards Win95. - Move minimizer to the right and add the document icon for dragging. This would definitly be a lot of help and more then cool....it would be useful. - Smaller Tool buttons with Bouble help. Smaller buttons allow for a more useable UI on laptops etc. (as seen at ObjectWorld '95). Bouble help is a must in this case since ther is no longer room for text under the image...and it make lokalization of apps a lot easier. - Keyboard control of focus etc. is a good idea too since there are cases where you can not work with a mouse but have to deal with a graphical UI. Done correctly it has not to look annoying. These changes would't make NeXTSTEP any worse or uglier IMHO. It would be a step to a more cross operating system consistency of UI metaphors and add more value to NeXTSTEP IMHO. BUT the problem is that you have to keep the Tool bars small and clean, the positions of the Buttons should have the same logical layout...etc. pp. othrwise we will end up with unusable monsters as under Winxxx...no matter what the ideas behind the UI are. NeXTs UI guidelines do make a lot of sense and breaking with them would be a shame because Win95 is confusion (windows have closers you can't press plus a bunch of other buttons with different meaning..but same position, Tab panel switch in a confusing way etc. pp.) Changing the buttons and adding keyboard control is not a big issue. Whereas: - dropping a systemwide Helpsystem - changing the scrollerbutton layout - moving to "perwindow" menu bars and dropping the return sign on the default button would be really really bad changes. Aloha Tomi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: NXFax still around? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960920121801.9233A-100000@charisma> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:30:34 -0400 References: <51tmr4$rh7@nebula.mpn.com> To: Charles Ashley <charlesa@netventures.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <51tmr4$rh7@nebula.mpn.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm not sure if your modem will work with NXFax... not all modems do. You might want to checkout: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/mailserver/NXFax-Sales.txt http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/mailserver/NXFax-Help.txt TjL On 20 Sep 1996, Charles Ashley wrote: > Date: 20 Sep 1996 09:06:44 GMT > From: Charles Ashley <charlesa@netventures.co.uk> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software -> Subject: NXFax still around? > > Hi - > > I'm looking for NXFax to get my old USR Courier V.32bis working in fax > mode with NS/I 3.3. The thing is, I can't seem to find NXFAx anywhere. > Are they still around? Or is there any other package which will do the > trick? > > Any input appreciated... > > C. > ========================================================================= > Charles Ashley charlesa@netventures.co.uk tel.+44.171.603.1267 > ========================================================================= > > >
From: "John K. Troxell" <jktroxe@fpe.erenj.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: multi-volume DOS disks? Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:24:28 -0700 Organization: Exxon R&E, NJ; Opinions not those of the Company. Message-ID: <3242EF6C.550@fpe.erenj.com> References: <516j07$p0a@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <0mBhpfG00WBOQ1pOBh@andrew.cmu.edu> <517shd$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <51bea4$rfv@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mmalcolm crawford wrote: > > You use the copy command. > Want to find out about the copy command? Use "copy /?". Obvious, eh? > This givens you about as much information as you're likely to get, the > equivalent of "cp -h" with a little more detail. Nothing like the richness > (or pervasiveness) of "man". Or type "help copy" which gives you more info. Or just "help" which gives you a menu of the commands that help is available for. John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Web browser on NeXT Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960920123122.9233B-100000@charisma> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:39:03 -0400 References: <51ub4a$rsc@maverick.tad.eds.com> To: "Chandra K. Puttanna" <lnusgmb.nz4jc0@eds.com> In-Reply-To: <51ub4a$rsc@maverick.tad.eds.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, at least two: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/OmniWeb-2.1.1-NIHS.tar.gz (note: single arch versions also available in that same directory.) free for single-license user you can also try: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/1/Netsurfer.2.0RC1.NI.b.tar.gz which has a free trial until the end of the month, and I'm really starting to like it... TjL On 20 Sep 1996, Chandra K. Puttanna wrote: > Date: 20 Sep 1996 14:52:58 GMT > From: "Chandra K. Puttanna" <lnusgmb.nz4jc0@eds.com> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > Subject: Web browser on NeXT > > Hi! > Is there any web browser available on NeXT . > > > >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: EnhanceMail for OpenStep 4.0 Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960920124019.9233C-100000@charisma> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:46:34 -0400 References: <51ubbi$gc8@noc.tor.hookup.net> To: Kevin Boyes <kboyes@noc.tor.hookup.net> In-Reply-To: <51ubbi$gc8@noc.tor.hookup.net> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I have recently upgraded to OpenStep 4.0 (Mail.app 4.0) and > found the following in the README file... > > --- > Note that this bundle will _only_ work with Mail.app 3.3. Earlier > versions of Mail.app can not be extended by external bundles. Initial > reports indicate that this bundle will only work partially with > Mail.app 4.0 and that configuration is not recommended. > --- ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/EnhanceMail.2.0b4.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/EnhanceMail.2.0b4.README > I have been trying to contact the author, Carl Edman, at the address > given in the README but it seems to bounce. Carl sent an announcement out to his beta testers that he had put together this 4.0 release and was putting it out on the ftp sites because he was not sure if/when he would be able to continue working on it. Note that the bundle includes source code. Also note that the bundle is a complete hack on the binary inside the Mail.app wrapper (that is to say that he wrote this bundle without source code for Mail.app). This means that if NeXT decides to change how Mail.app works, this bundle will probably cease to work also. And since the author of Mail.app no longer works at NeXT, who knows what will happen... Another note: what about all the other Mail.app bundles? Do any of them work in 4.0? Are their functionality a part of Mail.app itself now? I'm thinking specifically about: Urlifier.bundle ExtraCommands.bundle Resend.bundle I'm sure that 'cryptor.bundle' isn't part of Mail.app from NeXT even in 4.0.... TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Subject: Quicken like product for NeXT? Message-ID: <9147cc$d1932.3b9@news.sfasu.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:25:50 GMT Organization: As little as I can get away with... The boss needs a Quicken like product for NeXT. Does anyone know where I can find such an animal? (Please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu) Thanks, kc -- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka 49860926614586AF "The strongest reason for the people to retain their 54105BA338FBF0FB right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk> Subject: Re: NXFax still around? Message-ID: <1996Sep20.190735.1246@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <51tmr4$rh7@nebula.mpn.com> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:07:35 GMT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software In article <51tmr4$rh7@nebula.mpn.com> charlesa@netventures.co.uk (Charles Ashley) writes: > I'm looking for NXFax to get my old USR Courier V.32bis working in fax > mode with NS/I 3.3. The thing is, I can't seem to find NXFAx anywhere. > Are they still around? Or is there any other package which will do the > trick? Every six months or so Charles posts asking if NXFax supports the Courier, and the answer is still no. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Wanted: Useful RTF to HTML convertor for awkward NeXT-style RTF Message-ID: <Dy1KHn.AIz@euler.han.de> Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <32417CA9.2461@tus.ssi1.com> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 17:27:23 GMT Mike Bergsma <mike.bergsma@tus.ssi1.com> writes > Really, I'm not lazy. I've download countless rtf-2-html convertors from > all over the place. So far, they've all been worthless in converting > NeXT-style RTF documents created by Edit.app. I think that RTF is a > Microsoft standard, maybe that's why Edit.app strives to be different, > like not using header definitions for paragraph styles. > > Nonetheless, someone out there must have written a simple NeXT-specific > convertor, free of course, that leaps over all the rtf-redundant garbage > in rtf files, finding only the relevent tags, and produces the ubiqutous > html prize. > > It would be much apprecitated. Would not eText.app be able to do this? Juergen --- Fon +49 511 92455-51 NeXTMail welcome No Mime Fax +49 511 92455-52 = What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, = when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, = when a politician's idea of social change is changing names = when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
From: hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for elecronical sircuit simulation Date: 21 Sep 1996 12:21:24 GMT Organization: Individual - France Message-ID: <520mk4$dri@precipice.fdn.fr> References: <32422F6F.458F@msi.se> <Dy108K.8v6@cam-ani.co.uk> <51u4nt$5gg@news.acns.nwu.edu> >It was called CircuitBuilder.app, and I've never actually used it, >but I did save it. I'm emailing it to you both; let me know what >you think of it. You may put it on the archive so that everyone could have it, if this isn't the same as : ~/pub/Developer/demos_nextstep2.1/CircuitBuilder.app.2.1.N.b.tar.gz on the uni-muenchen ftp site. Hugues. -------------------------------------------------------------------- hugues@precipice.fdn.fr - French, English, Italian and a few JP ->OK ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP switching to Win95 GUI ? Date: 22 Sep 1996 01:25:25 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-d-31.usc.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <5224i5$r4r@usc.edu> References: <323716D0.46FB@online.ru> <517sr1$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <51je45$7vl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <51pf2n$cgf@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> <Dy1Er8.8v@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <Pine.HPP.3.95.960922010338.27818C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Cc: scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de In <Pine.HPP.3.95.960922010338.27818C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Bernhard Scholz wrote: > On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Thomas Engel wrote: > > - Move minimizer to the right and add the document icon for > dragging. This would definitly be a lot of help and more > then cool....it would be useful. > > > Possible since 3.3. Just drag the minimize button of document handling > applications, like Edit. And I don't know if I'd like to have the minimize button so close to the close button. Seems to make certain ooops easy. > You should definitly look at OpenStep 4.0. They improved a lot on the GUI. > However the OpenStepified applications have still to be done. Also I > dislike the new online help system.... What's the new online help system like? -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: c671143@muebnx7 (Michael Roberts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: please- floppy problems Date: 17 Sep 1996 15:14:26 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Message-ID: <51mf8i$1f9g@news.missouri.edu> I'm having problems with OS4.0 communicating with my floppy drive. It installed fine, and for about a week it read floppies fine. Now, when I place a disk in the drive and mount it, I get a message saying that the disk is unreadable, I then try to intialize it. Intialize always fails. I can place the OS boot floppy in the drive and mount it, but then it tells me that it is okay to remove the floppy. Is there something that I might have missed, or do I need to call NeXT on this one. Michael Roberts c671143@showme.missouri.edu NeXTMail capable
From: c671143@muebnx7 (Michael Roberts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: preference problem Date: 17 Sep 1996 15:16:49 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Message-ID: <51mfd1$1edi@news.missouri.edu> I have the correct time on the clock when I am logged in as root, but when I am in user mode, the time is off by a couple hours. At the preference panel, I click on the time icon, and it causes the whole app to shut down. I don't have this problem in root. Is there something I'm doing wrong. Thanks. Michael Roberts c671143@showme.missouri.edu NeXTMail capable
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Sender: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <521fa0$2kb@uuneo.neosoft.com> Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Control: cancel <521fa0$2kb@uuneo.neosoft.com> Message-ID: <cancel.521fa0$2kb@uuneo.neosoft.com> These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP switching to Win95 GUI ? Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 01:07:28 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960922010338.27818C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <323716D0.46FB@online.ru> <517sr1$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <51je45$7vl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <51pf2n$cgf@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> <Dy1Er8.8v@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Dy1Er8.8v@shinto.nbg.sub.org> On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Thomas Engel wrote: > - Move minimizer to the right and add the document icon for dragging. This > would definitly be a lot of help and more then cool....it would be useful. > Possible since 3.3. Just drag the minimize button of document handling applications, like Edit. > - Smaller Tool buttons with Bouble help. Smaller buttons allow for a more > useable UI on laptops etc. (as seen at ObjectWorld '95). Bouble help is a > must in this case since ther is no longer room for text under the image...and > it make lokalization of apps a lot easier. > Already in OpenStep 4.0. Bubble help and, how do I call it, "extended box help". Although bubble help is a little buggy... > - Keyboard control of focus etc. is a good idea too since there are cases > where you can not work with a mouse but have to deal with a graphical UI. > Done correctly it has not to look annoying. > OpenStep 4.0 > - dropping a systemwide Helpsystem > - changing the scrollerbutton layout > - moving to "perwindow" menu bars > and dropping the return sign on the default button > > would be really really bad changes. > You should definitly look at OpenStep 4.0. They improved a lot on the GUI. However the OpenStepified applications have still to be done. Also I dislike the new online help system.... Greetings, Bernhard.
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5224i5$r4r@usc.edu> Control: cancel <5224i5$r4r@usc.edu> Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-d-31.usc.edu Message-ID: <cancel.5224i5$r4r@usc.edu> These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: Useful RTF to HTML convertor for awkward NeXT-style RTF Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 01:23:12 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960922010934.27818D-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <32417CA9.2461@tus.ssi1.com> <Dy1KHn.AIz@euler.han.de> <Pine.NXT.3.95.960921152359.2838B-100000@charisma> <521ofo$8br@news.digifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <521ofo$8br@news.digifix.com> > > > >I consider myself relatively familiar with NeXTStuff, and a quick scan > >of the ftp sites didn't produce anything.... > > > >what is eText.app and where can it be found? > > > > eText.app was written by Rohit Khare as his thesis project. It > was a whizzy-wig editor beast... > > I've seen it on informatik not too long ago. > Just too clean up things: 'informatik' is the german equivalent for 'computer science'. You surely mean the site formerly known as ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. The site is now known as peanuts.leo.org. ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Text/apps/eText5* Greetings, Bernhard.
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 21 Sep 1996 23:32:42 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-d-31.usc.edu Message-ID: <521tuq$r4r@usc.edu> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Cc: randyj@lowana.sbs.ohio-state.edu In <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Randy Jackson wrote: > I'd like to add my two cents worth. > > I use OpenWrite. Yeah, yeah, I know, it has some > drawbacks, but it also has some really nice features. I would agree as well. It has great features. Access to them is somewhat confusing, tho. But I only use OW occassionally, and mostly to reformat FrameMaker docs into MS Word or WordPerfect. I think I'd switch over to OW from FrameMaker if and when they add one very important feature for me, which is widow/orphan control. I can't make the switch completely until that's done. In the meantime, I love FrameMaker, and actually would very much miss having to give up its "frame" concept. But it's not oo compliant. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
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From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Sender: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <Pine.HPP.3.95.960922010338.27818C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Control: cancel <Pine.HPP.3.95.960922010338.27818C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Message-ID: <cancel.Pine.HPP.3.95.960922010338.27818C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP switching to Win95 GUI ? Message-ID: <Dy4qts.L1@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: news@shinto.nbg.sub.org Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member) References: <323716D0.46FB@online.ru> <517sr1$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <51je45$7vl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <51pf2n$cgf@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> <Dy1Er8.8v@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <Pine.HPP.3.95.960922010338.27818C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 10:37:03 GMT Hi, > You should definitly look at OpenStep 4.0. They improved a lot on the GUI. However the OpenStepified applications have still to be done. Also I dislike the new online help system.... > its nice to read all those followups but the intention of my post was to say why IMHO some of the changes towards the Win95 UI are good from the usability point of view. They would IMHO be changs to the NeXT UI guide which would make it easier to use without becomeing more complicated...and not because it looks more like Win95. Dropping the helpsystem without documenting a new system wide concept or providing class which would enable the developer to continue using the "old" help system under 4.0 is a really bad move.(at least there is now a guideline on writing class documentation) Providing a simple HTML version of the help system might have been a good idea in case they wanted to get rid of the RTF stuff. And the Bubble help in 4.0pre2 was buggy too because it left "pixel-dirt" on the screen when a window behint the bouble got moved. >And I don't know if I'd like to have the minimize button so close to the close button. Seems to make certain ooops easy. This is a valid argument and I am not sure about this point too. But at least under NeXTSTEP the applications are smart enough to warn you when you are closing a window where work could be lost (which is not a common behaviour under X-window systems...and this drives me mad...mad...mad) and so confusion might not be that big. But enabling drag&drop of documents without having to touch the keyboard and hiding it behind the min-button would make it a more common action. A good thing to have(tm). Aloha Tomi
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From: nicolai@dannug.dk (Nicolai Henriksen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Hylafax Date: 22 Sep 1996 17:08:20 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group (DanNUG) Message-ID: <523rq4$40s@marvin.dannug.dk> References: <51p0f2$2idl@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Can someone provide some more information on how to make it appear in the print panel? Do I create a "FaxModem" via PrintManager.app first (if so - of what type?) and then do the hack with NetInfoManager.app or do I simply create a "Printer" ? Or...? - Nicolai Stephen J. Perkins writes > In <51n6ca$gbl@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Frank M. Siegert wrote: > > I suggest you look into mgetty+sendfax. I had that working at one time or > another also. As I recall, it was significantly easier to setup and use. > > Sorry for the bad news on HylaFax. Hope the other helps. > > - Steve > > P.S. I've attached an old file that was helpful with the mgetty+sendfax > stuff. Thanks go to Mark for this: > > I recently compiled mgetty+sendfax, and along with the pbm and ghostscript > support I have had for some time, and find that it works great with my > USR Courier Class 2.0 Triple standard modem for sending FAXes. I have not > set up mgetty to receive faxes yet. > > The only hack I did was to have NetInfoManager.app redirect the `if' hander > to the following script and this allowed me to be integrated into the > Print Panel. I also hacked up smail (which replaced sendmail more than a > year ago on my machine) to perform an email to FAX gateway. > > I would be interested in any comments about ensuring a level of security to > the programs. For instance, any additional checks on the phone numbers? > > Ciao -- Mark Salyzyn
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Sender: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <Pine.NXT.3.95.960921153026.2838C-100000@charisma> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Control: cancel <Pine.NXT.3.95.960921153026.2838C-100000@charisma> Message-ID: <cancel.Pine.NXT.3.95.960921153026.2838C-100000@charisma> These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite.
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Sender: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <Pine.NXT.3.95.960921152359.2838B-100000@charisma> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Control: cancel <Pine.NXT.3.95.960921152359.2838B-100000@charisma> Message-ID: <cancel.Pine.NXT.3.95.960921152359.2838B-100000@charisma> These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite.
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Xnext shareware? Date: 22 Sep 1996 12:08:52 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <523a8k$a11@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <51pbfu$p5k@inet-prime.comshare.com> alanf@izzy.net wrote: : Is anyone using the Xnext shareware? I downloaded an incomplete version, : apparently sans a window manager, and I can't get it working. I couldn't : find the authors email (Stefan Leuker) in the documentation. It would be : even better if the Afterstep window manager was available! If I can get it : to work, it would be easily worth the shareware fee... : TIA, : Alan Frabutt mailto://alanf@izzy.net : disclaimer: my opinions are MY opinions. Don't know where you got your package from, but the version on peanuts.leo.org includes at least the twm window manager. Stefan's address is Stefan Leuker <leuker@Pool.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE>. AfterStep is available from peanuts, too. Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | | flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | | PGP Key fingerprint = 23 8F B3 38 A3 39 A6 01 5B 99 91 D6 F2 AC CD C7 |
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From: gmmazman@pratique.fr Newsgroups: alt.amateur-comp,comp.cad.autocad,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.b Subject: Re: CTL3D32.DLL....WHERE CAN THIS FILE BE DOWNLOADED FROM ? - ctl3dv2.dll (0/1) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 06:06:57 GMT Organization: Internet Way Message-ID: <5249rp$e4l@s3.iway.fr> References: <N.091396.174746.30@196-7-195-143.iafrica.com> <51i409$i76@morse.ukonline.co.uk> bj.morgan@ukonline.co.uk (Barry M) wrote: >alcord@iafrica.com (Alan Drodskie) wrote: >>Can someone please tell me where this file can be down loaded from? >>I've tried www.Shareware.com but I wasn't given a download option. >>Thanks >>alcord@iafrica.com >It can usually be found on computer magazine cover discs in the UK and >installs when required by an application / game. I have a copy of it >anyway and certainly do not remember putting it there! Seem to >remember from somewhere that this free software thing is peculiar to >us Brits. Is it true? >Barry >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > : People who like this sort of >B.J.Morgan : thing will find this the sort >Using Free Agent : of thing they like. > : ( Abraham Lincoln 1809-1865 ) >---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: randyj@lowana.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) Sender: randyj@lowana.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Organization: The Ohio State University Control: cancel <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: <cancel.521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite.
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From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Sender: reichman@comserv-d-31.usc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <521tuq$r4r@usc.edu> Organization: Como me Gusta productions Control: cancel <521tuq$r4r@usc.edu> Message-ID: <cancel.521tuq$r4r@usc.edu> These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: (CRITICAL ANSWER) Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 22 Sep 1996 22:48:31 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> There are no decent word processing or (moderatly priced) desktop publishing programs for NEXT/OPENSTEP. There I said it. OpenWrite, the UI is so shtinky, it makes any of the features a torture to use. However, at this point it is our last hope. I have my fingers and toes crossed that Lighthouse/SUN will do something good with it. WriteUp, which was rather elegant, yet underpowered...is no more. And sadly, niether is PasteUp. The only native DTP solution left is OneVision, which I hear nothing but good things about, but haven't had the time to demo. From what I heard, it is REALLY VERY EXPENSIVE. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong...but on the other hand, I cannot blame them, the market is so tiny at this point, they are entitled to a good return on their efforts. They really should put something up on the archives. Of the nonGUI flavor there is TeX...but let's face it, that is not a good general use solution. Of the dying but still kicking apps, there is FrameMaker 3.2. It is nice, but really behind the 5.1.1 version of Frame out for the PC's... So what is the bottom line, other than having depressed myself :( There is a brilliant opportunity for someone to take the new Text object, wrap an awsome GUI on it (might I suggest TIFFANY's browser/action/style approach) and make a few bux :) Ok, I can dream cant I? :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy...It's coming... | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: seanl@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WriteNow -> PC conversion ?? Date: 22 Sep 1996 19:14:03 GMT Organization: U Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <52435r$p3m@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <QmDnLsa00iWT4CcKsF@andrew.cmu.edu> Avram Cheaney (avram+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: >My boss has about 800 WriteNow 2.0 documents on his NeXt (from a long >time ago).. I have to get them over to some sort of PC readable form, >I.E. .RTF, .DOC or HTML. >Ideally there would be some kind of a command line tool that I could use >to make a script. The script provided previously in this thread is probably the best way to do wn -> rtf in batch. However, if you're *really* desperate to get all the formatting information and you're willing to open/save by hand, a way to get it to MSWord format is to go buy WriteNow for the Macintosh ($50), which understands both WriteNow and MSWord formats. _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@cs.umd.edu URL: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
From: seanl@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Web browser on NeXT Date: 22 Sep 1996 19:15:32 GMT Organization: U Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <52438k$p3m@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <51ub4a$rsc@maverick.tad.eds.com> <Pine.NXT.3.95.960920123122.9233B-100000@charisma> Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@nerc.com) wrote: >Yes, at least two: >ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/OmniWeb-2.1.1-NIHS.tar.gz >(note: single arch versions also available in that same directory.) >ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/1/Netsurfer.2.0RC1.NI.b.tar.gz ...and, of course, lynx compiles nicely on the NeXT. And isn't there something available under Emacs? _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@cs.umd.edu URL: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
From: seanl@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pine + NeXT/Black -- Is this a known problem? Date: 22 Sep 1996 19:21:22 GMT Organization: U Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <5243ji$p3m@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <51d240$o7j@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> John Haugeland (jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu) wrote: >I have a NeXTstation connected to the net at my office, with Pine installed. >I would like to use this program for email, and to access it from a PC at >home. However, I have the following INFURIATING problem: I can't get it to >recognize a carriage return properly. Though the software I am using at >home sends a ^M, by the time it gets to Pine, it is a ^J (which means >something else to Pine). Yeah, "Justify"--it messes up >How can I get it to be a ^M for Pine? This is a known problem with NeXT's crummy telnet daemon. It happens for NCSA Telnet for the Macintosh too. Come to think of it, I've *never* seen it work properly on a non-UNIX box. Anyone? Surely there must be an easy answer to fix this. an stty of some sort maybe? _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@cs.umd.edu URL: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
From: seanl@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Pine on black -- solved (more or less) Date: 22 Sep 1996 19:27:34 GMT Organization: U Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <5243v6$p3m@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <52152r$s7l@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> John Haugeland (jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu) wrote: >stty -extproc >This definitely solved the basic problem (though there are other funky >issues, which seem to depend on specific terminal emulators). However, I >have not been able to find any documentation on what "-extproc" means, or >what this setting (turning it off?) does. The man pages for stty dfo not >mention it -- either on NeXTstep 3.2 or Solaris. But, when I set in the >NeXT, stty definitely recognizes it, and also reports the setting back if >I do an inquiry (prompt> stty everything). >Anybody know what this does? Aha! From the 3.3 man page on stty: -extproc process characters external to the terminal driver. This option is used when there is a loss of characters or improper handling of special characters (e.g., carriage returns and line feeds) during a telnet(1C) session from a non-NEXTSTEP local host to a NEXTSTEP remote host. ... in other words "do what we should have done in the first place"... Sean Luke seanl@cs.umd.edu
From: jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) Sender: jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <52152r$s7l@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Organization: University of Pittsburgh Control: cancel <52152r$s7l@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Message-ID: <cancel.52152r$s7l@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite.
From: stefanos@Vir.com (Stefanos Kiakas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP driver Web site. Date: 23 Sep 1996 00:20:56 -0400 Organization: Communications Vir, Internet Access Montreal. Message-ID: <525378$t4l@Vir.com> (I posted this about a week ago but I haven't seen it on Altavista so I thought I would post it again. - stef ) Hello, I'd like to ask all of you out there who are looking for a driver or have written a driver and want the NeXTSTEP user community to know about it to send me an email message at stefanos@uniscape.com Those of you who are feeling more generous could submit a "How I developed a SUPERFOO driver" to help other people learn to build/modify drivers to customize them to meet their own needs. (Assuming they know how to program.) Any help would be appreciated, stef
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: using PS fonts with LaTeX2e Date: 22 Sep 1996 17:00:43 GMT Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada Message-ID: <523rbr$g09@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> What does one need to do to use NeXT PostScript fonts with LaTeX2e? Does one need to download and install all the afm/tfm/mf/ etc files from CTAN, e.g., /fonts/psnfss/adobe/times etc? What changes are required for dvips? Any pointers or docs would be appreciated. -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (NeXTmail OK) Psychology Department York University Voice: 416 736-5118 4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: (CRITICAL ANSWER) Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:59:33 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960923105450.12345A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> On 22 Sep 1996, John Kheit wrote: > The only native DTP solution left is OneVision, which I hear nothing but > good things about, but haven't had the time to demo. From what I heard, it > is REALLY VERY EXPENSIVE. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong...but on > the other hand, I cannot blame them, the market is so tiny at this point, > they are entitled to a good return on their efforts. They really should > put something up on the archives. > It is brilliant, and it beat's all other stuff on the market (e.g. Quark, Photoshop). Because of this it's somewhat expensive, but you get what you pay for. I'm no longer involved with DTP so I didn't take a look at their latest demo. It is pretty large (I think >100MB) so we don't keep a complete copy on our archive site. I believe you can get your copy from ftp.onevision.de and you surely can order a copy (on CD) by writingn to info@onevision.de Greetings, Bernhard.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: fat WriteNow & Improv? Message-ID: <1996Sep23.114241.46919@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch Date: 23 Sep 96 11:42:40 MET References: <9127cc$1010.fa@news.sfasu.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.95.960919022912.5816C-100000@charisma> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> wrote: > On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:01:00 GMT > > From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> > > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > > Subject: fat WriteNow & Improv? > > > > Does anyone know if fat versions of WriteNow & Improv are available? > > "no" and "I don't think so" > > WN files can be changed to RTF, but I don't know what to do with my > Improv files. Dump them, then get Quantrix fomr Lighthouse and reload! Works great. -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Novell in 4.0 Date: 23 Sep 1996 10:03:06 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Message-ID: <525n8q$5rg@netty.york.ac.uk> Wheres it gone ? please don't tell me they dumped that as well ! can I pacth in some old 3.3 bits to make it work ? sigh... -batt.
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Hylafax Date: 23 Sep 1996 13:25:35 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <52634f$18s@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <51p0f2$2idl@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <523rq4$40s@marvin.dannug.dk> Nicolai Henriksen (nicolai@dannug.dk) wrote: : Can someone provide some more information on how to make it appear in the : print panel? Do I create a "FaxModem" via PrintManager.app first (if so - : of what type?) and then do the hack with NetInfoManager.app or do I simply : create a "Printer" ? Or...? [Shameless "advertisment" plug-in ;-]: The most recent version of mgetty contains a small section about installation for NEXTSTEP in the info documentation. My hint therein was to use Kevin Peckover's ps2g3 package. I'm currently using a patched version of ps2g3 that seems to work fine with the current mgetty. ps2g3 tries to set up sendfax automatically in NetInfo, only that it contains an old version of sendfax. If there's some interest (rhetorical question), I'll package my version of ps2g3's NetInfo filter and upload it to some ftp server. mgetty's development version is available from ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/networking/communication/modem/mgetty ps2g3 is available as ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/postscript/ps2g3.s.tar.gz Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | | flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | | PGP Key fingerprint = 23 8F B3 38 A3 39 A6 01 5B 99 91 D6 F2 AC CD C7 |
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for elecronical sircuit simulation Date: 23 Sep 1996 13:55:19 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5264s7$5tm@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <32422F6F.458F@msi.se> <Dy108K.8v6@cam-ani.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <Dy108K.8v6@cam-ani.co.uk> On 09/20/96, Ian Stephenson wrote: > When ever anyone asks for this I always rememeber a Z-plane filter app. > > SOMEONE HAS THE Z-PLANE FILTER APP! > > I WANT IT!!!! > > Seriously I had a copy in about '91, and it allowed you to drap > poles round the Z-plane - it built the digital filter in real time > on the DSP, and played white noise through it. > I'm sure this is the excellent ResoLab by the also excellent Perry Cook (then of CCRMA, now, I believe -- I spoke with him in Stockholm around this time last year when I think he mentioned his immenent move -- in Princeton?). I've sent Ian a copy, however it's also available from the CCRMA FTP site: ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/DSP/ Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu (Stephen Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Converting emacs-4.2beta4 to OS 4.0? Date: 23 Sep 1996 13:03:08 GMT Organization: Yale University Message-ID: <5261qc$jlu@news.ycc.yale.edu> Since I hadn't heard any serious horror stories about software that failed to run under OS 4.0, I recently upgraded my machine. Most things seem to work, but one disaster concerns emacs. The binary compiled under 3.3 crashes, and I can't get it rebuilt - by adding an include for the headers in /DextDeveloper/OpenStepConversion/3.3Headers I managed to get things to compile, but now the loader complains that it can't find -lNeXT_s, and indeed there doesn't seem to be a library with a name anything like that anywhere obvious. I'm really stuck, since emacs is where I spend most of my waking hours. Is there anyone out there with some experience converting applications to OS4.0 who could give me some hints about replacing the missing library? There's some 85 Mbytes of documentation that got installed as part of the developer package, but I'm hardly a real programmer (I'm a professor of Linguistics), and I don't know where to look. Thanks in advance, --Steve Anderson <anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu>
From: jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net (The Rev. James David Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: (CRITICAL ANSWER) Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 23 Sep 1996 14:37:09 GMT Organization: JLC-net, Milford NH Message-ID: <5267al$bpq@mozart.jlc.net> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> On 09/22/96, John Kheit wrote: >WriteUp, which was rather elegant, yet underpowered...is no more. And >sadly, niether is PasteUp. Is this true? Say it ain't so, John, say it ain't so! --- The Rev. James David Meacham First Unitarian Congregational Society of Wilton Center, NH e-mail:jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net 603-654-9518 (Church) 603-654-9590(Home) 603-654-2248(fax) Church Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/index.html Personal Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/jameshome.html -- The Rev. James David Meacham First Unitarian Congregational Society of Wilton Center, NH e-mail:jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net 603-654-9518 (Church) 603-654-9590(Home) 603-654-2248(fax) Church Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/index.html Personal Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/jameshome.html
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: (CRITICAL ANSWER) Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 23 Sep 1996 15:10:17 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <52698p$bdc@news3.digex.net> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> <5267al$bpq@mozart.jlc.net> jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net (The Rev. James David Meacham) wrote: > On 09/22/96, John Kheit wrote: > >WriteUp, which was rather elegant, yet underpowered...is no more. And > >sadly, niether is PasteUp. > Is this true? Say it ain't so, John, say it ain't so! Well, maybe it aint so?!? I mean, they didn't take it out back and shoot it... There is a chance someone else will buy/take it from them and develope it further... But AFS, sadly, has stopped development, and stopped taking orders... SIGH, they did a good job with it too... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy...It's coming... | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Novell in 4.0 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 12:14:40 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <Dy6q0H.t8@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <525n8q$5rg@netty.york.ac.uk> In article <525n8q$5rg@netty.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) writes: > Wheres it gone ? please don't tell me they dumped that as well ! can I > pacth in some old 3.3 bits to make it work ? > > sigh... > > -batt. From the release notes: OpenStep Release 4.0 Copyright
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: WWW Browser... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dy4A9s.nv9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 04:39:28 GMT References: <3241C11C.6AEA@technet.net.mx> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <3241C11C.6AEA@technet.net.mx>, Alejandro Gidi Chavez <agidi@technet.net.mx> wrote: >Hi, Is there any WWW browser we can use on a NeXT Station/Cube? > Two main ones. OmniWeb (http://www.omnigroup.com/) and NetSurfer (http://www.netsurfer.com/). Both good products, although I prefer the former. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for elecronical sircuit simulation Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:37:42 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <Dy6wMv.1Fq@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <5264s7$5tm@bignews.shef.ac.uk> In article <5264s7$5tm@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes: > I'm sure this is the excellent ResoLab by the also excellent Perry Cook (then > of CCRMA, now, I believe -- I spoke with him in Stockholm around this time > last year when I think he mentioned his immenent move -- in Princeton?). > > I've sent Ian a copy, however it's also available from the CCRMA FTP site: > > ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/DSP/ > I believe that this is the app in question (thanks!). I remember playing with it Summer '91... ~~~~flashback~~~~wobbly~~~~~effect~~~~ I'd just graduated, having had to answer loads of nasty exam questions on filter design. I was hanging round the dept waiting to start postgrad stuff. "So if I move it round the frequency goes up, and if I move it into the middle the notchy bit goes away..." "So why didn't you tell me that in the lectures?" ~~~~flashback~~~~wobbly~~~~~effect~~~~ 10 minutes with that app taught me more than 2 years of lectures! Anyone who has ever had, or may ever have anything to do with electronics, filter design, audio, or engineering in general should check this out. It's one of the most awesome learning experiences I've ever had. If you're working in an electronics teaching dept, it is simply mental cruelty not to make this available to your students. If you teach DSP, then it's worth the price of a black NeXT just to run this app. I guaratee it will boost the pass rate on your course by 20% $an
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPP Date: 23 Sep 1996 14:53:14 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <52688q$nkm@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> I've been running PNI Slip myself for a couple of years, but a colleague would like a PPP setup on his Intel NeXT. I'm sure that I've seen references here to a good PPP package, but didn't see it in a quick check of peak.org. Would someone give me a pointer please? -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: mcutler@u.washington.edu (Mark Cutler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Corrupt NSFIP 3.1 diskette Date: 23 Sep 1996 17:00:50 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <526fo2$924@nntp1.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: mcutler My copy of the installation diskette for NSFIP 3.1 is not working. If you have an extra copy sitting around or would be willing to create another copy for me, please send me an e-mail. I appreciate your assistance. Mark Cutler
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software, Subject: Who misses Stealth.app??? Date: 23 Sep 1996 19:36:26 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <526orq$d3c@news3.digex.net> I do, I do :) I'm wondering, is there any chance that there is a FAT version of that great NS2.x demo app? It was always good for some ohhh&ahhhs. Plus I used to love going really high and then dive bombing to see how far under the earth I could reach :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy...It's coming... | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Xnext shareware? Date: 23 Sep 1996 19:32:44 GMT Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands Message-ID: <526oks$1ij@highway.leidenuniv.nl> References: <51pbfu$p5k@inet-prime.comshare.com> alanf@izzy.net wrote: > Is anyone using the Xnext shareware? I downloaded an incomplete version, > apparently sans a window manager, and I can't get it working. Yes, I had very few problems with it (3.2 black). You need three packages though: the server itself, the fonts (loads of them :-() and either the complete or minimal client package. Those include twm. (which is hell to set up, but that's not Stefan's fault, but seems to be the X way of doing things.) The URL is http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~leuker/Xnext/ Good luck... -- G.J. van Oldenborgh Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics, Leiden University email: gj@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl web: http://www-lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quicken like product for NeXT? Date: 21 Sep 1996 19:22:40 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <R.521fa0$2kb@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <9147cc$d1932.3b9@news.sfasu.edu> Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. In <9147cc$d1932.3b9@news.sfasu.edu> J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > > The boss needs a Quicken like product for NeXT. Does anyone know where I > can find such an animal? > > (Please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu) There sure is. Andy Stone has taken over its upkeep. Try his web page (insert URL here) or e-mail info@stone.com. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love, rlove@neosoft.com (local) MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (permanent) PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP switching to Win95 GUI ? Date: 22 Sep 1996 01:25:25 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-d-31.usc.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <R.5224i5$r4r@usc.edu> References: <323716D0.46FB@online.ru> <517sr1$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <51je45$7vl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <51pf2n$cgf@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> <Dy1Er8.8v@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <Pine.HPP.3.95.960922010338.27818C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Cc: scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. In <Pine.HPP.3.95.960922010338.27818C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Bernhard Scholz wrote: > On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Thomas Engel wrote: > > - Move minimizer to the right and add the document icon for > dragging. This would definitly be a lot of help and more > then cool....it would be useful. > > > Possible since 3.3. Just drag the minimize button of document handling > applications, like Edit. And I don't know if I'd like to have the minimize button so close to the close button. Seems to make certain ooops easy. > You should definitly look at OpenStep 4.0. They improved a lot on the GUI. > However the OpenStepified applications have still to be done. Also I > dislike the new online help system.... What's the new online help system like? -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: Useful RTF to HTML convertor for awkward NeXT-style RTF Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 01:23:12 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <R.Pine.HPP.3.95.960922010934.27818D-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <32417CA9.2461@tus.ssi1.com> <Dy1KHn.AIz@euler.han.de> <Pine.NXT.3.95.960921152359.2838B-100000@charisma> <521ofo$8br@news.digifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <521ofo$8br@news.digifix.com> Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. > > > >I consider myself relatively familiar with NeXTStuff, and a quick scan > >of the ftp sites didn't produce anything.... > > > >what is eText.app and where can it be found? > > > > eText.app was written by Rohit Khare as his thesis project. It > was a whizzy-wig editor beast... > > I've seen it on informatik not too long ago. > Just too clean up things: 'informatik' is the german equivalent for 'computer science'. You surely mean the site formerly known as ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de. The site is now known as peanuts.leo.org. ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Text/apps/eText5* Greetings, Bernhard.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP switching to Win95 GUI ? Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 01:07:28 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <R.Pine.HPP.3.95.960922010338.27818C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <323716D0.46FB@online.ru> <517sr1$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <51je45$7vl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <51pf2n$cgf@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> <Dy1Er8.8v@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Dy1Er8.8v@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Thomas Engel wrote: > - Move minimizer to the right and add the document icon for dragging. This > would definitly be a lot of help and more then cool....it would be useful. > Possible since 3.3. Just drag the minimize button of document handling applications, like Edit. > - Smaller Tool buttons with Bouble help. Smaller buttons allow for a more > useable UI on laptops etc. (as seen at ObjectWorld '95). Bouble help is a > must in this case since ther is no longer room for text under the image...and > it make lokalization of apps a lot easier. > Already in OpenStep 4.0. Bubble help and, how do I call it, "extended box help". Although bubble help is a little buggy... > - Keyboard control of focus etc. is a good idea too since there are cases > where you can not work with a mouse but have to deal with a graphical UI. > Done correctly it has not to look annoying. > OpenStep 4.0 > - dropping a systemwide Helpsystem > - changing the scrollerbutton layout > - moving to "perwindow" menu bars > and dropping the return sign on the default button > > would be really really bad changes. > You should definitly look at OpenStep 4.0. They improved a lot on the GUI. However the OpenStepified applications have still to be done. Also I dislike the new online help system.... Greetings, Bernhard.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: (CRITICAL ANSWER) Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 23 Sep 1996 20:38:59 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <526sh3$f2@news.digifix.com> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> <5267al$bpq@mozart.jlc.net> <52698p$bdc@news3.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <52698p$bdc@news3.digex.net> On 09/23/96, John Kheit wrote: >jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net (The Rev. James David Meacham) wrote: >> On 09/22/96, John Kheit wrote: >> >WriteUp, which was rather elegant, yet underpowered...is no more. And >> >sadly, niether is PasteUp. > >> Is this true? Say it ain't so, John, say it ain't so! > >Well, maybe it aint so?!? I mean, they didn't take it out back and shoot >it... There is a chance someone else will buy/take it from them and >develope it further... But AFS, sadly, has stopped development, and >stopped taking orders... SIGH, they did a good job with it too... Just a small correction John... they are still taking orders, until the end of the month ... check comp.sys.next.announce -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: tony@wildfire.com (Tony Lovell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP switching to Win95 GUI ? Date: 23 Sep 1996 20:38:07 GMT Organization: Wildfire Communications, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <526sff$olo@gnus.wildfire.com> References: <51vkh5$hj4@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> In article <51vkh5$hj4@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: >tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) wrote: >>> I see a lot of good changes which could happen to NeXTSTEP, which would >> appear to be a migration towards Win95. >> >> - Move minimizer to the right and add the document icon for dragging. This >> would definitly be a lot of help and more then cool....it would be useful. I hope NS stops being better than Win95, I really do. Next seems pretty interested in not being better. Here are some things Next can do to make themselves less appealing, if only they can rapidly adopt them. 1. Adopt Window's aggravating scroll bars which leap back to their original position if your cursor drifts more than a few pixels away as you drag it away. You made a mistake-- BAD USER! 2. Get rid of the helpful button combinations that make NS get every possible bit out of the scroll bar (such as control + down button to page around). 3. Add toolbars of 6x6 pixel widgets that some clown somewhere thought made the application easy to use. 4. Use control (rather than alt) in combination with other keys in order to interact with applications. THIS WAY, you get the aggravation of having text entry (which has richly historic uses for control characters) be incompatible with your very basis of working with your computer. 5. Menus on each window, in order to reduce document display/working area to the minimal possible. Put in more menus on the other windws. Can I get a wallpaper of menus? 6. Make "enter" accept even large windows with varied controls and fields in order to thwart anyone who has used a computer where "enter" would advance you between the fields. This way, unintended consequences can be achieved in rapid fashion as the user unlearns behaviors that were deeply rewarding on other computers he/she has used in the past. 7. Every computer program must display a placard as it launches. Could you write a virus in Windows that made every other application (than the one your company wrote) pause 20 seconds while displaying it's placard? It would make your app seem so much nicer, and only by making the others seem more clearly what they already are: braggards. 8. Make a file browser that does not let you easily navigate the hierarchy -- in fact, detach the single directory you can see listed from the interface of directory selection. To this, add icons depicting "My Computer", which, when clicked, produce a Russian dolls-nest of windows that behave quite dissimilarly from the file viewer's navigation of the directories. This promotes the twitching tic as the user's mind wrestles with the productivity-enhancing misconceptions. Are these files? No... What are these? Did the person that wrote this know what the other guy was doing? 9. Alt+F4 is STILL the best way to close something, and Next should stop fighting it. It's mnemonic is this: An F-4 Phantom is losing Altitude. Therefore, your program will close. 10. Clicking on text should never do the right thing. Next blew this badly. In IE, click on a URL you want to edit, in the little URL window. VOILA! The entire entry is selected. Oh -- you only want to change one word in the middle, or insert text. For that, you have to click twice. NS gives you more selected area the more you click. This has the bad effect of being intuitive, and making the more clumsy action produce the clumsier selection (try to stay on the same pixel of MS-standard 4-point font while clicking several times to estyablish an insertion point). 11. Make edges and resizing bands on windows as small as possible. Make use of the UI a feat of coordination. 12. Use more needless terms for things that do not require a name. "Wizard". Looks like a window to me, ace. :) tony PS: Seriously, there are some things NS could stand to gain, possibly several reside in MS products. But generally, MS has made advances only in gloss and not in substance when it comes to making GUI's easy to use and understand.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU) Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Message-ID: <R.Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU) Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:57:05 GMT Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. In article <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> Bruce Donaldson <bdonaldson@swin.edu.au> writes: : Hi everybody, : : I'm very new to NeXTSTEP and while I love the interface and programmer : environment I'm beginning to despair of finding a decent word processor : or desktop publisher even up to Microsoft's Word capabilities. : Any suggestions? I'm running NeXTSTEP 3.3 on intel. : If you stick to MS-Word you can run Word6 in SoftPC. I had to buy MS-Office4.2 (Japanese) to run Word6 in SoftPC + Win/V, which is probably the only way to use a decent Japanese word processor in NEXTSTEP. --- Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Wanted: Useful RTF to HTML convertor for awkward NeXT-style RTF Message-ID: <R.Pine.NXT.3.95.960921152359.2838B-100000@charisma> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:25:24 -0400 References: <32417CA9.2461@tus.ssi1.com> <Dy1KHn.AIz@euler.han.de> To: Juergen Sell <js@euler.han.de> In-Reply-To: <Dy1KHn.AIz@euler.han.de> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Juergen Sell wrote: > > > > Nonetheless, someone out there must have written a simple NeXT-specific > > convertor, free of course, that leaps over all the rtf-redundant garbage > > in rtf files, finding only the relevent tags, and produces the ubiqutous > > html prize. > > > > It would be much apprecitated. > > Would not eText.app be able to do this? I consider myself relatively familiar with NeXTStuff, and a quick scan of the ftp sites didn't produce anything.... what is eText.app and where can it be found? TjL
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP switching to Win95 GUI ? Date: 21 Sep 1996 02:39:33 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <R.51vkh5$hj4@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> References: <323716D0.46FB@online.ru> <517sr1$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <51je45$7vl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <51pf2n$cgf@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> <Dy1Er8.8v@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) wrote: >> I see a lot of good changes which could happen to NeXTSTEP, which would > appear to be a migration towards Win95. > > - Move minimizer to the right and add the document icon for dragging. This > would definitly be a lot of help and more then cool....it would be useful. This appeared in an early OS 4.0 prerelease, but was dropped along with most other GUI changes. The buttons were ugly 2D buttons instead of the current 3D. > - Smaller Tool buttons with Bouble help. Smaller buttons allow for a more > useable UI on laptops etc. (as seen at ObjectWorld '95). Bouble help is a > must in this case since ther is no longer room for text under the image...and > it make lokalization of apps a lot easier. The OS 4.0 ProjectBuilder has smaller toolbar buttons. Bubble help is also available in PB. Press the help key or key combination and move the question mark cursor over the toolbar buttons. > - Keyboard control of focus etc. is a good idea too since there are cases > where you can not work with a mouse but have to deal with a graphical UI. > Done correctly it has not to look annoying. Much more control is available in OS. Buttons, pop up buttons, and most other controls can be connected so that tabbing moves from control to control with other keys activating the controls. Return activates the default button. > Whereas: > > - dropping a systemwide Helpsystem This has gone in OS 4.0. Under Mach, help files are opened by their "owning" apps like Edit or a Web browser. Under NT, MS Help can be used. > - changing the scrollerbutton layout Thank goodness this hasn't changed under Mach, but of course the Windows convention is used under NT :-( > - moving to "perwindow" menu bars Not under Mach, but under NT. And per-control right-mouse-button menus are now supported. > and dropping the return sign on the default button It's been dropped, but the Windows "heavy border" default button is now used. This isn't so bad. > would be really really bad changes. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Forwarding mail from NT server to NeXT - question Date: 23 Sep 1996 22:08:55 GMT Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA Message-ID: <5271po$edr@newsreader.wustl.edu> I tried what I thought would be the relevant NT groups but to no avail. Maybe someone on the NeXT side knows the answer... We just recently switched to an NT server running Microsoft Exchange as mail server, and I don't know how to get it to forward to my NeXT box without corrupting the mail. If I set the forward in Exchange, it creates a new mail message with header and copies the mail into it as quoted (>) text. Thus all the mail forwarded from the server appears to be from my account on the server instead of someone else! This is not what I want at all. I would like the mail to be forwarded uncorrupted, just as unix or VMS does. Anyone know how to do that? I don't know anything about NT (and I don't really want to know) so please start with the basics. Why does Microsoft always have to mess up perfectly good conventions?? Cheers, Don Petcher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Pine on black -- solved (more or less) Message-ID: <R.Pine.NXT.3.95.960921153026.2838C-100000@charisma> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:32:05 -0400 References: <52152r$s7l@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> To: John Haugeland <jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu> In-Reply-To: <52152r$s7l@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. from man stty(1): -extproc process characters external to the terminal driver. This option is used when there is a loss of characters or improper handling of special characters (e.g., carriage returns and line feeds) during a telnet(1C) session from a non-NEXTSTEP local host to a NEXTSTEP remote host. Found this in the csn.software achives from June ... It isn't in the 3.2 man page for stty, but it is in the 3.3 man page glad to help TjL
From: hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for elecronical sircuit simulation Date: 21 Sep 1996 12:21:24 GMT Organization: Individual - France Message-ID: <R.520mk4$dri@precipice.fdn.fr> References: <32422F6F.458F@msi.se> <Dy108K.8v6@cam-ani.co.uk> <51u4nt$5gg@news.acns.nwu.edu> Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. >It was called CircuitBuilder.app, and I've never actually used it, >but I did save it. I'm emailing it to you both; let me know what >you think of it. You may put it on the archive so that everyone could have it, if this isn't the same as : ~/pub/Developer/demos_nextstep2.1/CircuitBuilder.app.2.1.N.b.tar.gz on the uni-muenchen ftp site. Hugues. -------------------------------------------------------------------- hugues@precipice.fdn.fr - French, English, Italian and a few JP ->OK ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: Useful RTF to HTML convertor for awkward NeXT-style RTF Date: 21 Sep 1996 21:59:20 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <R.521ofo$8br@news.digifix.com> References: <32417CA9.2461@tus.ssi1.com> <Dy1KHn.AIz@euler.han.de> <Pine.NXT.3.95.960921152359.2838B-100000@charisma> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960921152359.2838B-100000@charisma> Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. On 09/21/96, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > >On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Juergen Sell wrote: > >> > >> > Nonetheless, someone out there must have written a simple NeXT-specific >> > convertor, free of course, that leaps over all the rtf-redundant garbage >> > in rtf files, finding only the relevent tags, and produces the ubiqutous >> > html prize. >> > >> > It would be much apprecitated. >> >> Would not eText.app be able to do this? > >I consider myself relatively familiar with NeXTStuff, and a quick scan >of the ftp sites didn't produce anything.... > >what is eText.app and where can it be found? > eText.app was written by Rohit Khare as his thesis project. It was a whizzy-wig editor beast... I've seen it on informatik not too long ago. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: Useful RTF to HTML convertor for awkward NeXT-style RTF Date: 23 Sep 1996 16:46:52 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <sams.843521695@shellx> References: <32417CA9.2461@tus.ssi1.com> <Dy1KHn.AIz@euler.han.de> <R.Pine.NXT.3.95.960921152359.2838B-100000@charisma> >On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Juergen Sell wrote: >> > Nonetheless, someone out there must have written a simple NeXT-specific >> > convertor, free of course, that leaps over all the rtf-redundant garbage >> > in rtf files, finding only the relevent tags, and produces the ubiqutous >> > html prize. Perhaps this can help: http://sun1.rrzn-user.uni-hannover.de/~zzhibol/rtftoweb/guide.html Here you can find sources to "rtftohtml" which compiles cleanly and works fine under NS. (I built the patched "rtftoweb" version) My only caution is that the "rtftoweb" example includes an rtf example with tags that crash Edit.app. One more thing, in case it's not completely obvious; RTF captures formatting but in HTML the formatting is derived from the document's structure, so some things are necessarily lost in the translation. Now if only the converter could guess the structure from the formatting... (I'm probably joking) cheers, -sam
From: jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Pine on black -- solved (more or less) Date: 21 Sep 1996 16:28:11 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <R.52152r$s7l@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. A week ago I posted a problem about using Pine on my networked NeXT, and accessing it remotely over a modem with a terminal emulator. (The orignal post explaining the problem is appended below.) I tried a numbe ro things, none of which worked except the one suggested by Timothy J. Luoma. So, THANK YOU, TIM. He said to run (at a system prompt in a terminal window): stty -extproc This definitely solved the basic problem (though there are other funky issues, which seem to depend on specific terminal emulators). However, I have not been able to find any documentation on what "-extproc" means, or what this setting (turning it off?) does. The man pages for stty dfo not mention it -- either on NeXTstep 3.2 or Solaris. But, when I set in the NeXT, stty definitely recognizes it, and also reports the setting back if I do an inquiry (prompt> stty everything). Anybody know what this does? John On 14 Sep 1996, John Haugeland wrote: > I have a NeXTstation connected to the net at my office, with Pine installed. > I would like to use this program for email, and to access it from a PC at > home. However, I have the following INFURIATING problem: I can't get it to > recognize a carriage return properly. Though the software I am using at > home sends a ^M, by the time it gets to Pine, it is a ^J (which means > something else to Pine). How can I get it to be a ^M for Pine? > > What I have tried: several different PC terminal programs (all set to send > ONLY a CR (= ^M) for carriage return. Also, I have the same promlem > connecting with my NeXTstation at home, using Terminal + kermit. So, I'm > pretty sure that what's being sent is a ^M. I have tried VT100 and also > ANSI teminal emulation at home (with the corresponding $TERM definition > on the next at the office). > > Here's a further perplexity. The University runs Pine on Solaris (and, > before that, on SunOS), and the same problem does NOT arise. This > disparity has been apparent also over several versions of Pine, including > the newest, 3.95. So, why can Pine on Solaris handle my ^M characters > from home (from several different machine/software combinations) just fine, > while Pine on my NeXT can't handle it no matter what I try? > > Or, more to the point, what can I do to get Pine on my NeXT to work > properly, when accessed by remote login? > > John Haugeland > haugelan+@pitt.edu
From: dchan@earthlink.net (Derek Chan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Window Server "crashes" under NT Date: 21 Sep 1996 20:05:28 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <R.521hq8$o77@ecuador.earthlink.net> Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. I just installed OS4.0 on NT 3.51 and get the following error message: The instruction at "0x00527f77" referenced memory at "0x00000010". The memory could not be "read". Does anyone know how to solve this problem? Thanks. -- Derek Chan dchan@earthlink.net (NextMail or MIME - o.k.)
From: randyj@lowana.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 21 Sep 1996 20:19:02 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <R.521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> In-Reply-To: <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. I'd like to add my two cents worth. I use OpenWrite. Yeah, yeah, I know, it has some drawbacks, but it also has some really nice features. I am a Uni prof, and one of my most common activities is preparing handouts, excercises, etc., that involve both equations and charts, diagrams, etc. Needless to say, the ooe approach is ideal for me, and EqBuilder and Create, as well as Tables (which has some really annoying and unpredictable properties) are constant companions. Even though the text editing interface is not the standard text edit object (which I really wish it were), I see no other alternative on the market that even comes close to providing me with a framework for such seamless integration of applications. My professional publications are also characterized by heavy interdependence of text, equations, and graphics, and here again, OpenWrite is entirely adequate for 20-30 page journal articles. There are many ways that OW could be improved, but I like it. My only problem is that I worry about a migration path. I'd hate to lose the labor I've put into course note preparation. Hope this helps some of you. Randy -- Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o __o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\, _`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> | (*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\, FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 21 Sep 1996 23:32:42 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-d-31.usc.edu Message-ID: <R.521tuq$r4r@usc.edu> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Cc: randyj@lowana.sbs.ohio-state.edu Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. In <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Randy Jackson wrote: > I'd like to add my two cents worth. > > I use OpenWrite. Yeah, yeah, I know, it has some > drawbacks, but it also has some really nice features. I would agree as well. It has great features. Access to them is somewhat confusing, tho. But I only use OW occassionally, and mostly to reformat FrameMaker docs into MS Word or WordPerfect. I think I'd switch over to OW from FrameMaker if and when they add one very important feature for me, which is widow/orphan control. I can't make the switch completely until that's done. In the meantime, I love FrameMaker, and actually would very much miss having to give up its "frame" concept. But it's not oo compliant. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: wgilbert@uwaterloo.ca (Will Gilbert) Subject: Re: WWW Browser... Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner) Message-ID: <Dy71Cu.Mnt@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:19:42 GMT References: <Dy4A9s.nv9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo David Evans writes > In article <3241C11C.6AEA@technet.net.mx>, > Alejandro Gidi Chavez <agidi@technet.net.mx> wrote: > >Hi, Is there any WWW browser we can use on a NeXT Station/Cube? > > Two main ones. OmniWeb (http://www.omnigroup.com/) and NetSurfer > (http://www.netsurfer.com/). > Both good products, although I prefer the former. You can even use the original World Wide Web application that was developed on the NeXT in 1990-1991! For a little bit of history try: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info/ WorldWideWeb_0.16.tar.Z (78K) or ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info/ WorldWideWeb_1.0.tar.Z (146K) -- ************************************************************** Will Gilbert, Chair, Pure Math Dept, Univ of Waterloo, Canada http://math.uwaterloo.ca/~wgilbert/ wgilbert@uwaterloo.ca
From: randyj@lowana.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 24 Sep 1996 12:52:31 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <528lif$h4c@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <R.521tuq$r4r@usc.edu> In-Reply-To: <R.521tuq$r4r@usc.edu> On 09/21/96, Matthew N. Reichman wrote: >Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. > >In <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Randy Jackson >wrote: >> I'd like to add my two cents worth. >> >> I use OpenWrite. Yeah, yeah, I know, it has some >> drawbacks, but it also has some really nice features. > > >I would agree as well. It has great features. Access to them >is somewhat confusing, tho. But I only use OW occassionally, Agreed. I am still unsure just where to find some of the options at times. >and mostly to reformat FrameMaker docs into MS Word or >WordPerfect. > >I think I'd switch over to OW from FrameMaker if and when >they add one very important feature for me, which is >widow/orphan control. I can't make the switch completely >until that's done. Well, it is partially implemented. That is to say that id there is a paragraph that is broken unacceptably, you can triple click it to select, then click the paragraph inspector, and go to the position panel, and check "On same page" under KEEP WITH. I think this can be set as a global option by selecting the entire document with command->a and following the same steps. Randy > >In the meantime, I love FrameMaker, and actually would very >much miss having to give up its "frame" concept. But it's not >oo compliant. > >-- >Be well, > >Matthew Reichman >reichman@usc.edu >USC-CNTV >NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k >NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome > >=============================================================== >PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Computer Privacy Information --> >http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/ > > -- Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o __o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\, _`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> | (*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\, FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu
From: lionel@cyberlab.ch (Lionel Tinguely) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RADIUS ON NS Date: 24 Sep 1996 16:15:01 GMT Organization: SWITCH, Swiss Academic & Research Network Message-ID: <5291e5$brt@scsing.switch.ch> HEllo There ! Is ther a version on RADIUS that runs on NS 3.3 or OPENSTP 4.0??? Thaks in advance LiONEL -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CYBERLaB NeTWORK<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< lionel@cyberlab.ch (MiME & NeXTmail WELCOME !!) Tel: +41 (0)21 623.66.10 http://www.cyberlab.ch Fax: +41 (0)21 626.40.00 Ask for or my PGP public key ------------------------------------------------------- The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence E.W. Dijkstra Teaching C++ should be sentenced to life imprisonment Me
From: Steve Haynes <sghaynes@widomaker.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HP 5M ppd anyone? Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:31:01 +0000 Organization: EQB Industries Message-ID: <3247D485.4B1A@widomaker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Does anyone know where one would find a PPD for a HP 5M that would allow me to use the options such as duplexing and and envelope feeder? Many thanks in advance. Steve Haynes
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19960924.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19960923.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19960917.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 24 Sep 1996 10:00:00 -0600 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: weekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SSS Quiz of the Month Date: 24 Sep 1996 20:15:31 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <529fh3$cc4@peng.ping.at> Dear NEXTSTEP community, here's a bit of a relaxation for you. If you can spare a minute, you're welcome to participate in this month's quiz on http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/index.html This month's prize is a free HelpViewer license (worth upto US$ 99), or, alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software. The first one to answer the quiz question wins the prize! I admit that this month's quiz question is not an easy one. So, another new hint will be revealed every other day, until someone finally sends in the correct answer. Have fun, - Stefan Stefan Schneider Software stefan@ping.at www.ping.at/members/stefan/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP switching to Win95 GUI ? Message-ID: <Dy9618.C5@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: news@shinto.nbg.sub.org Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member) References: <51vkh5$hj4@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <526sff$olo@gnus.wildfire.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 19:55:55 GMT tony@wildfire.com (Tony Lovell) wrote: ... > > > :) > > tony > > > PS: Seriously, there are some things NS could stand to gain, possibly > several reside in MS products. But generally, MS has made advances only > in gloss and not in substance when it comes to making GUI's easy to use > and understand. Thanx Tony, this was the best summary of brain dead UI under Win95. (Just had to work with Coral 6.0 today..besides all those crashes...selecting text really turned out to be more of an adventure game...its just different :-) Does someone here have a nice summary of X-Window UI goodies which NeXTSTEP should adopt ? I might have some to add :-) Aloha Tomi
From: hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: (CRITICAL ANSWER) Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 24 Sep 1996 20:21:14 GMT Organization: Individual - France Message-ID: <529frq$gu9@precipice.fdn.fr> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: >The only native DTP solution left is OneVision, which I hear nothing but >good things about, but haven't had the time to demo. From what I heard, it >is REALLY VERY EXPENSIVE. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong...but on >the other hand, I cannot blame them, the market is so tiny at this point, >they are entitled to a good return on their efforts. They really should >put something up on the archives. OneVision isn't a WP, nor a DTP app. This is an integrated DTP system, which explains the price. PageMaker or XPress isn't priced as Word or WordPerfect. And Linotype Hell systems aren't priced as PageMaker or XPress. Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote: > It is pretty large (I think >100MB) so we don't keep a complete copy on > our archive site. OneVision 3.01 installed on black takes 25.1MB The black install package is 14MB (contains text, drawing, image module and much more). Hugues. -------------------------------------------------------------------- hugues@precipice.fdn.fr - French, English, Italian and a few JP ->OK ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Why do colorized rtf signatures and rtfd signatures cause Mail.app to sendout weird MIME garbage? Date: 25 Sep 1996 06:10:09 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-g-60.usc.edu Message-ID: <52aic1$mf6@usc.edu> Why do colorized rtf signatures and rtfd signatures cause Mail.app to sendout weird MIME garbage? I.e. I get a string of letters and nos. on one line, thought the signature and the message also come through? I had this questioned answered but forgot it. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: Paul Heffernan <phef@cedar.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:44:25 +0100 Organization: Cedar Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <RTjWiQA57PSyEwy2@cedar.co.uk> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net>, John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes >There are no decent word processing or (moderatly priced) desktop >publishing programs for NEXT/OPENSTEP. > >There I said it. > >OpenWrite, the UI is so shtinky, it makes any of the features a torture to >use. However, at this point it is our last hope. I have my fingers and >toes crossed that Lighthouse/SUN will do something good with it. > > >So what is the bottom line, other than having depressed myself :( There is >a brilliant opportunity for someone to take the new Text object, wrap an >awsome GUI on it (might I suggest TIFFANY's browser/action/style approach) >and make a few bux :) Ok, I can dream cant I? :) >-- If you'll excuse the plug - there is another option; CedarWord. This is built upon the NeXT Text object and easily handles documents in excess of 100 pages. The first version doesn't have tables or foot/endnotes but these (and more) are in the pipeline. What's more it is *really* affordable. Check out our announcement in comp.sys.next.announce or our web page to download a demo copy http://www.cedar.co.uk Thanks, Paul Heffernan. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul Heffernan, Product Development Manager. Cedar Systems, 2440 The Quadrant, Aztec West, Bristol BS12 4AQ, UK Phone: +44 (0) 1454 878708 Fax : +44 (0) 1454 878608
From: gvandyk@icon.co.za Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Installing OS 4.0 on NT4.0 Date: 25 Sep 1996 05:05:04 GMT Organization: E.S. Systems cc (Financial Systems Development) Message-ID: <52aei0$avj@hermes.is.co.za> Has anybody successfully installed OpenStep 4.0 on NT4.0? I haven't got the Beta version of NT4.0 so I can't install OS4.0 on the Beta and then upgrade to NT4.0. When I Install OpenStep, just before it finishes, the installation fails indicating that it could not create a group. Is there a way around this, or am I stuck? -- Regards, Gerrit van Dyk email: gvandyk@icon.co.za (NeXTMail welcome) E.S. Systems cc The OBJECT is the ADVANTAGE
From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Installing OS 4.0 on NT4.0 Date: 25 Sep 1996 13:22:44 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <52bbn4$r7t@news-dec2.tiac.net> References: <52aei0$avj@hermes.is.co.za> gvandyk@icon.co.za wrote: >Has anybody successfully installed OpenStep 4.0 on NT4.0? I haven't >got the Beta version of NT4.0 so I can't install OS4.0 on the Beta and >then upgrade to NT4.0. > >When I Install OpenStep, just before it finishes, the installation >fails indicating that it could not create a group. Is there a way >around this, or am I stuck? It's OS 4.0 installer bug. You could create group manually though. Put MachD, Mach nmserver, Window Server and Pasteboard Server into it and don't forget to check path. This works for me. Regards, Aleksey
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: (CRITICAL ANSWER) Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 16:04:18 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960925160042.26524A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> <529frq$gu9@precipice.fdn.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <529frq$gu9@precipice.fdn.fr> > Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote: > > > It is pretty large (I think >100MB) so we don't keep a complete copy on > > our archive site. > > OneVision 3.01 installed on black takes 25.1MB > The black install package is 14MB (contains text, drawing, image > module and much more). > Yes, but the DEMO is much much larger! It comes with a tutorial, demo packages etc. I believe the program simply isn't of much use to anybody trying to demo the program without the examples, or not knowing what he is doing if the detailed help files are missing and so on. If I get a new demo CD, I'd take a deeper look at it and try to build a small demo package. But IMHO the biggest size for a commercial demo on a FTP site shouldn't exceed 15MB. Who'd download such huge files? Only for a demo! Greetings, Bernhard.
From: lionel@cyberlab.ch (Lionel Tinguely) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: A DOCK EXTENDER ?? Date: 25 Sep 1996 13:48:45 GMT Organization: SWITCH, Swiss Academic & Research Network Message-ID: <52bd7t$sr6@scsing.switch.ch> Hello there ! I am looking for a Dock Extender ! Someone told me to use Fiend. Fiend is good but I would like a Dock Extender that is on or in the NeXT Dock not another one beside the original Dock . Is there any commercial app doing that ?? Thank you in advance LiONEL -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CYBERLaB NeTWORK<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< lionel@cyberlab.ch (MiME & NeXTmail WELCOME !!) Tel: +41 (0)21 623.66.10 http://www.cyberlab.ch Fax: +41 (0)21 626.40.00 Ask for or my PGP public key ------------------------------------------------------- The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence E.W. Dijkstra Teaching C++ should be sentenced to life imprisonment Me
From: briggman@universe.digex.net (Dave Briggman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: A DOCK EXTENDER ?? Date: 25 Sep 1996 13:53:41 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Message-ID: <52bdh5$bl1@news3.digex.net> References: <52bd7t$sr6@scsing.switch.ch> Lionel Tinguely (lionel@cyberlab.ch) wrote: : Hello there ! : : I am looking for a Dock Extender ! Someone : told me to use Fiend. Fiend is good but : I would like a Dock Extender that is on or in the NeXT Dock : not another one beside the original Dock . : : Is there any commercial app doing that ?? : You can email mary@metrosoft.com ...she got me replacement disks for my licensed copy of MetroTools, however, she really didn't make it clear as to whether they are still selling the software. Dave
From: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@fichte.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Q: Status of PENCOM & co-Xist Date: 25 Sep 1996 16:10:40 +0200 Organization: MPI biophysical Chemistry, Goettingen, DE Message-ID: <we6hgomelcv.fsf@Fichte.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Hi, does anyone know the current status of PENCOM and co-Xist? Is it developed any longer? Will co-Xist run on OpenStep for Mach 4.0? Why did the co-Xist page at www.pswtech.com disappear? I only noticed, d'Art (Germany's main NeXTSTEP distributor) doesn't ship co-Xist anymore, the www page disappeared... d'Art offered some left copies of co-Xist 3.2. What have been the main changes between 3.2 and 3.3 on black hardware? Thanks for any input, Stephan -- Task: System Administration Unix (HP-UX, Linux, FreeBSD) Email: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Mail: Abt. 081, MPI bpC, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel: +49 551 201 1 454
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 25 Sep 1996 15:02:08 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <52bhhg$c8a@news3.digex.net> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> <RTjWiQA57PSyEwy2@cedar.co.uk> Paul Heffernan <phef@cedar.co.uk> wrote: > This is built upon the NeXT Text object and easily handles documents in excess of 100 pages. The first version doesn't have tables or foot/endnotes but these (and more) are in the pipeline. > What's more it is *really* affordable. > Check out our announcement in comp.sys.next.announce or our web page to download a demo copy http://www.cedar.co.uk Well, congrats on putting out a word processor! It's a little too much like ms word for my tastes, but I bet once the footnotes and endnotes get put in, it'll be a great success. At anyrate, I wish you great success :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy...It's coming... | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: roland@onevision.de (Roland Schwingel) Subject: Re: (CRITICAL ANSWER) Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Message-ID: <Dy8t4H.9GA@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960923105450.12345A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:17:05 GMT Hello, In article <Pine.HPP.3.95.960923105450.12345A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes: > On 22 Sep 1996, John Kheit wrote: > > > The only native DTP solution left is OneVision, which I hear nothing but > > good things about, but haven't had the time to demo. From what I heard, it > > is REALLY VERY EXPENSIVE. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong...but on > > the other hand, I cannot blame them, the market is so tiny at this point, > > they are entitled to a good return on their efforts. They really should > > put something up on the archives. > > > It is brilliant, and it beat's all other stuff on the market (e.g. Quark, > Photoshop). Because of this it's somewhat expensive, but you get what you > pay for. I'm no longer involved with DTP so I didn't take a look at their > latest demo. It is pretty large (I think >100MB) so we don't keep a > complete copy on our archive site. I believe you can get your copy from > ftp.onevision.de and you surely can order a copy (on CD) by writingn to > info@onevision.de Thanks for the flowers to us. :-) But I have something to correct. OneVision.app is not a small. But it is by far not >100MB. The quadfat version is ~50MB installed (~28MB compressed) including German and English online Help. The Intel Package with Online Help comes to about 20MB installed and about 10MB compressed. And this is even to big for the most people to donwload with ftp. There are demoversion of OneVision out, on various ftp servers, but not the current V3.02. Currently there is no ftp.onevision.de from where you can get a demoversion from. We are currently building up a http://www.onevision.de. But it is still under construction, so be patient. Well, OneVision.app it isn't cheap. But is not designed for home usage. I will not take this for a commercial but I think it covers the (hopefully) complete needs of the prepress market and therefore we have invested lots of manpower to create it. In Germany you would have to pay about 19000 DM for it (for the current prices you should ask our sales department) If you want further informations here are our email adresses: As stated by Bernhard Scholz there is info@onevision.de and there is dialog@onevision.de Bye, Roland -- ============================================================================ Roland Schwingel OneVision GmbH Developer Zeissstrasse 9 Email:roland@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ============================================================================
From: slunati@iplus.fr (Stephane LUNATI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q: Status of PENCOM & co-Xist Date: 25 Sep 1996 17:40:25 GMT Organization: Internet Plus Message-ID: <52bqq9$tke@iplus1.iplus.fr> References: <we6hgomelcv.fsf@Fichte.mpibpc.gwdg.de> In article <we6hgomelcv.fsf@Fichte.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Stephan Trebels <strebel2@fichte.mpibpc.gwdg.de> writes: > Hi, > > does anyone know the current status of PENCOM and co-Xist? Is it > developed any longer? Will co-Xist run on OpenStep for Mach 4.0? Why > did the co-Xist page at www.pswtech.com disappear? > [...CRUNCH...] > > Thanks for any input, Stephan > > -- > Task: System Administration Unix (HP-UX, Linux, FreeBSD) > Email: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> > Mail: Abt. 081, MPI bpC, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany > Tel: +49 551 201 1 454 Hello, I believe that Pencom stop selling co-Xist but they have a deal with Intuitiv Systems (htttp://www.intuisys.com) and you can use Cub'X Window... Try to contact Intuitiv, I'm pretty sure they will give you the right answer.. Hope that helps Stephane -------------- Stephane LUNATI <s_lunati@improve.fr> IMPROVE PARIS LA DEFENSE - FRANCE - http://www.improve.fr Personal email : slunati@iplus.fr (NeXTMail welcome)
From: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Appletalk from 3.0 under 3.2 or 4.0? Date: 25 Sep 1996 18:29:00 GMT Organization: Brandeis University - Computer Science Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <52btlc$3qr@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> hello, all. having recently acquired a mac duo 2300c, i am now interested in getting it to talk nicely with my NeXT. has anyone successfully used the AppleTalk software from NS3.0 under either NS3.2 (which i'm running now), or OPENSTEP4.0 (which i am waiting to install)? can anyone verify this can work, or say for sure it can't? are there any PD appletalk sources available? i've been looking but haven't found any yet. thanks for any tips or info! cheers, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ David A. Sinclair - ASCII email: sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu NeXTmail: circe@id.wing.net
From: edx@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Calibrator.app for Intel? Message-ID: <1996Sep25.120430.85564@cc.usu.edu> Date: 25 Sep 96 12:04:30 MDT Organization: Utah State University Once upon a time, there was an application for m68k called Calibrator.app (I believe that was the name) which allowed one to change the color calibration performed by the workspace - it let you change the gamma correction, and the color balance. Is this application, or a similar one, available for Intel 3.3? I really would like something that would let me change the gamma correction factor on my machine. Thanks for any pointers. - HRC -
From: dboyce@albert (Doug Boyce) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] 3.3 as a DNS server Date: 25 Sep 1996 20:42:12 GMT Organization: a Digital Internet AlphaServer Site Message-ID: <52c5f4$613@ns1.moran.com> Anybody using using 3.3 or 4.0 as an authoriative DNS server please drop me a line.
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone got latex2html working? Date: 25 Sep 1996 21:57:23 GMT Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO USA Message-ID: <52c9s3$3jf@newsreader.wustl.edu> I would like to translate tex or latex documents for www access (including mathematics). I am aware of hypertex, but that requires a final translation from ps to pdf, which cannot be done on the next (unless you are a large corporation), so it is not the ideal solution for me. I'll probably try that out also as soon as I can get a copy of distiller for another machine, but in the mean time... Has anyone got latex2html successfully installed on a Next? I set up all the supporting files (perl, divps, netpbm, latex2e) hoping that ghostscript would not be needed because of the presence of ps. But apparently this is not correct. In the middle of running latex2html an intermediate file is not generated, apparently because ps is not ghostscript, and the whole thing halts. Any way around that? Is there a minimal way of installing ghostscript as a filter? (A cursory look at it says that it needs to be installed for one or more targets, typically X-windows for unix.) Alternatively is there a way of coaxing postscript to act like ghostscipt? Or perhaps the problem is not as it appears... Any help would be appreciated. Cheers, Don Petcher
From: jbryans@csulb.edu (Jack Bryans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] 3.3 as a DNS server Date: 25 Sep 1996 23:48:44 GMT Organization: Cal State Long Beach Sender: jbryans@wren.acs.csulb.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <2hg246kvfs.fsf@wren.acs.csulb.edu> References: <52c5f4$613@ns1.moran.com> In-reply-to: dboyce@albert's message of 25 Sep 1996 20:42:12 GMT In article <52c5f4$613@ns1.moran.com> dboyce@albert (Doug Boyce) writes: > Anybody using using 3.3 or 4.0 as an authoriative DNS server please > drop me a line. Now how in the world is anybody going to be able to drop a line to dboyce@albert? There's nothing dns can do to resolve "albert". Jack
From: "John Daniels" <jdaniels@efdata.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Openstep File Viewer Problems for Solaris Date: 25 Sep 1996 20:28:02 GMT Organization: EFData Corp. Message-ID: <01bbab20$5e9755e0$0308dfce@jdaniels.efdata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just install the free download version of openstep and I have a problem when file viewer loads. If I just type 'openstep', the workspace and dock comes up just fine, but file viewer does not load all the way. I get just a bare windows. If I type openstep -start wh.app I get the following error which repeats over and over... Starting: wh.app Workspace: cannot launch program: 'wh.app' open: can't open connection to wh.app on local host environment started <repeats> I think it has to do with a daemon that isn't running, but I can't figure it out. Everything else works fine. Thanks in advance! John Daniels jdaniels@efdata.com
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: A DOCK EXTENDER ?? Date: 26 Sep 1996 07:24:06 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-i-60.usc.edu Message-ID: <52db2m$fa9@usc.edu> References: <52bd7t$sr6@scsing.switch.ch> Cc: lionel@cyberlab.ch In <52bd7t$sr6@scsing.switch.ch> Lionel Tinguely wrote: > Hello there ! > > I am looking for a Dock Extender ! Someone > told me to use Fiend. Fiend is good but > I would like a Dock Extender that is on or in the NeXT Dock > not another one beside the original Dock . > > Is there any commercial app doing that ?? I don't understand. My Fiend dock icon is placed over the NeXT icon on the dock. The Fiend icon is made a little bit small than the next dock icon so you can still click on it. Seems like a good organic extension of the dock to me. What would you rather have (in terms of a variation on the NeXTSTEP dock?). -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 26 Sep 1996 07:27:56 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-i-60.usc.edu Message-ID: <52db9s$fa9@usc.edu> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> <RTjWiQA57PSyEwy2@cedar.co.uk> <52bhhg$c8a@news3.digex.net> Cc: jkheit@cnj.digex.net In <52bhhg$c8a@news3.digex.net> John Kheit wrote: > Paul Heffernan <phef@cedar.co.uk> wrote: > > Check out our announcement in comp.sys.next.announce or our web page to > > download a demo copy http://www.cedar.co.uk > > Well, congrats on putting out a word processor! It's a little too much > like ms word for my tastes, but I bet once the footnotes and endnotes get > put in, it'll be a great success. At anyrate, I wish you great success :) I second that congrats. And I second the criticism - the pull-down for font stuff is definitely against the grain of the font selection window, which I'd rather have. And the button idea/arrangement is also a bit non-NS. Since there's an open invitation for icon mail-ins, ..... -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: wendling@next (Fabrice Wendling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sound Blaster 16 on 3.3 Date: 26 Sep 1996 07:48:57 GMT Organization: Universite de Rennes 1, France Message-ID: <52dch9$q80@news.univ-rennes1.fr> Hello ! Does anybody knows how to install a SB16 on 3.3 ? I think I adjusted the right parameters (A220, DMA 1 and IRQ 5) since this card works well under MS windows with these parameters. However, when I boot in verbose mode, I get a message saying that no SB device is recognized at address 220H. I also tried with the later drivers (found on www.next.com) without succes. My plateform is an Intel P166, NextStep 3.3. Thanks for your help. Answers may also be sent to: wendling@next.univ-rennes1.fr
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Date: 26 Sep 1996 09:26:52 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <52di8s$9s5@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <19960923.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> <19960924.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> In-Reply-To: <19960924.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> On 09/24/96, casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG wrote: > Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer > Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer > Frequency: weekly > > comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas > Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ > > cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. > OK, so I'm impressed that the FAQ mentions NEXTSTEP and the relevant NS spreadshets: I wonder though if this really justifies sending this message to csns every week? I can't remember the last time anyone asked "What spreadsheets are there for NEXTSTEP?". Should we ask for this to be kept off the NeXT group? Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: multi-volume DOS disks? Date: 26 Sep 1996 09:49:12 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <52djio$acs@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <516j07$p0a@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <0mBhpfG00WBOQ1pOBh@andrew.cmu.edu> <517shd$549@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <51bea4$rfv@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <3242EF6C.550@fpe.erenj.com> In-Reply-To: <3242EF6C.550@fpe.erenj.com> On 09/20/96, "John K. Troxell" wrote: > mmalcolm crawford wrote: > > > > You use the copy command. > > Want to find out about the copy command? Use "copy /?". Obvious, eh? > > This givens you about as much information as you're likely to get, the > > equivalent of "cp -h" with a little more detail. Nothing like the > > richness (or pervasiveness) of "man". > > Or type "help copy" which gives you more info. > Or just "help" which gives you a menu of the commands that help is > available for. > Um, yes, that's the second thing I tried: c:> help copy Bad command or filename Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Appletalk from 3.0 under 3.2 or 4.0? Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:50:40 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <jbf-2609960850400001@news.tiac.net> References: <52btlc$3qr@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <52btlc$3qr@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu>, sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu (David A. Sinclair) wrote: > having recently acquired a mac duo 2300c, i am now interested in > getting it to talk nicely with my NeXT. has anyone successfully used > the AppleTalk software from NS3.0 under either NS3.2 (which i'm > running now), or OPENSTEP4.0 (which i am waiting to install)? It will install (with the 3.0 Installer only), and it runs with 3.3, but it's very buggy. So real file sharing is problematic. Get Fetch for your Mac and make the transfers from that end, or get NCSA Telnet and enable the FTP server. > are there any PD appletalk sources available? i've been looking > but haven't found any yet. There is a Columbia Appletalk Package which supposedly runs on most varieties of Unix. The sources seem to require applying vast numbers of patches, so I've never tried it. I've seen a patched version on our Sun SPARC. Barney
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Appletalk from 3.0 under 3.2 or 4.0? Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:27:09 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <DyCDDA.GLw@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <jbf-2609960850400001@news.tiac.net> In article <jbf-2609960850400001@news.tiac.net> jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) writes: > In article <52btlc$3qr@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu>, sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu > (David A. Sinclair) wrote: > > > having recently acquired a mac duo 2300c, i am now interested in > > getting it to talk nicely with my NeXT. has anyone successfully used > > the AppleTalk software from NS3.0 under either NS3.2 (which i'm > > running now), or OPENSTEP4.0 (which i am waiting to install)? > > It will install (with the 3.0 Installer only), and it runs with 3.3, > but it's very buggy. So real file sharing is problematic. Get Fetch > for your Mac and make the transfers from that end, or get NCSA Telnet > and enable the FTP server. Better yet - check out http://prozac.cwru.edu/jude/macnfs/Macnfsd.html A free NFS server for Mac! Still in Beta, but I've got it working (I haven't thoroughly tested it, so make no claims to its reliability). Jude's been REALLY helpfull about sorting out my problems. It has the advantage over appletalk that it will run over PPP (with some tweaking), whereas appleshare won't run over PPP (unless you know different! - might work with OpenTransport). Of course an NFS _CLIENT_ for Mac would be more usefull in most cases (at least round here!), but this is still pretty cool. Fetch is probably the most practcal tool for just backing up, and syncing your portable back to a base station - it handles resource forks far better than either NeXT-Appletalk, or Mac-NFS. $an
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Novell in 4.0 Date: 26 Sep 1996 14:18:29 GMT Organization: US Net, Incorporated Message-ID: <52e3bl$7nj@news.us.net> References: <525n8q$5rg@netty.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) wrote: >Wheres it gone ? please don't tell me they dumped that as well ! That's my question too! The release notes say that it's gone, but /usr/netware is still there (NetWareManager is gone). Why did NeXT drop this important connection? Also, since the NetWare client under NS3.3 is for NetWare 2.x and 3.x, how does one log into a NetWare 4.x server when the account is in another context (not the default one)? -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: garyc@filoli.com (Gary I. Chang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SSL: Security Socket Layer for OmniWeb Date: 26 Sep 1996 15:43:35 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <52e8b7$fth@nntp1.best.com> Hi, Has anybody sucessfully incorporated SSL into OmniWeb.app so that it will work with on-line tradings such as Charles Schwab which requires security handshaking protocol? Thanks, Gary
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: A DOCK EXTENDER ?? Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:05:37 -0400 Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <324AC5F1.7BA4@worldbank.org> References: <52bd7t$sr6@scsing.switch.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lionel Tinguely wrote: > I am looking for a Dock Extender ! Someone > told me to use Fiend. Fiend is good but > I would like a Dock Extender that is on or in the NeXT Dock > not another one beside the original Dock . You can place Fiend so that it sits in the dock area. Read the instructions, because there's a catch related to drag-and-dropping things on the rest of the dock, but otherwise it works quite well. > Is there any commercial app doing that ?? There used to be a very nice app called Engage! But their producers seem to have avnished off the face of the earth (or at least, they haven't answered several e-mail queries). Stefano
Message-ID: <3242FAE6.4514@mail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 15:13:26 -0500 From: GetFree@mail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.terminals.tty5620,comp.windows.open-look,de.comp.sys.amiga.misc,humanities.design.misc Subject: BEYOND TECHNOLOGY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Taking 5 minutes to read what follows can change your life : I saw an article in an internet newsgroup telling me I could make $50,000 within a month for an investment of only $5. I thought it was a huge joke. I spoke to my wife, attorney and friends about it, and they all agreed it was some kind of scam. I can't stand scams, because usually someone gets burned, and I didn't want it to be me. Of course, I rejected the idea at first. after a short period of about two weeks ,I thought : "I have already heard of such things. But on the Internet ?!?!? ". 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.terminals.tty5620,comp.windows.open-look,de.comp.sys.amiga.misc,humanities.design.misc From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Sender: GetFree@mail.com Date: 26 Sep 1996 20:38:17 EDT Control: cancel <3242FAE6.4514@mail.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <3242FAE6.4514@mail.com> Message-ID: <cancel.3242FAE6.4514@mail.com> Spam/MMF cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was BEYOND TECHNOLOGY
From: dennis.glatting@plaintalk.bellevue.wa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [Q] 3.3 as a DNS server Date: 27 Sep 1996 01:48:46 GMT Organization: PlainTalk Distribution: world Message-ID: <52fbpu$bdj@Holly.aa.net> References: <52c5f4$613@ns1.moran.com> <2hg246kvfs.fsf@wren.acs.csulb.edu> Cc: jbryans@csulb.edu In <2hg246kvfs.fsf@wren.acs.csulb.edu> Jack Bryans wrote: > In article <52c5f4$613@ns1.moran.com> dboyce@albert (Doug Boyce) writes: > > > Anybody using using 3.3 or 4.0 as an authoriative DNS server please > > drop me a line. > I am. Drop me a line. :) > Now how in the world is anybody going to be able to drop a line to > dboyce@albert? There's nothing dns can do to resolve "albert". > > Jack >
From: Bruce Donaldson <bdonaldson@swin.edu.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FrameMaker license Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:01:47 -0700 Organization: Swinburne University Message-ID: <324C40BB.3705@swin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit G'day Again, I recently posted an article asking for info on decent word processors and the overall mood of the replies was to try either a) LaTeX or b) FrameMaker. Trouble is I can't find who'll supply a license to FrameMaker 3.2 on the NeXT. Lighthouse no longer reseel that product, Omni never has and so far Adobe simply gives no reply. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bruce Donaldson Swinburne University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Openstep File Viewer Problems for Solaris Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DyCKuA.CCn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:08:34 GMT References: <01bbab20$5e9755e0$0308dfce@jdaniels.efdata.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <01bbab20$5e9755e0$0308dfce@jdaniels.efdata.com>, John Daniels <jdaniels@efdata.com> wrote: >I just install the free download version of openstep and I have a problem >when file viewer loads. If I just type 'openstep', the workspace and dock >comes up just fine, but file viewer does not load all the way. I get just >a bare windows. If I type openstep -start wh.app I get the following error >which repeats over and over... I start it using the following: setenv XINITRC /usr/openstep/etc/Xinitrc openwin -dpi 72 which seems to work very well. Sparc 10, Solaris 2.4. >Everything else works fine. > Are your fonts annoyingly rendered? Mine are, and yes, I've installed the OpenWindows patches. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 on 3.3 Date: 27 Sep 1996 13:41:43 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <52glin$3cl@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <52dch9$q80@news.univ-rennes1.fr> Fabrice, quelle est ton adresse email, que je puisse te repondre ? ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca)
From: gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP switching to Win95 GUI ? Date: 27 Sep 1996 14:11:42 GMT Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands Message-ID: <52gnau$e5@highway.leidenuniv.nl> References: <51vkh5$hj4@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <526sff$olo@gnus.wildfire.com> <Dy9618.C5@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Thomas Engel (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) wrote: > Does someone here have a nice summary of X-Window UI goodies which NeXTSTEP > should adopt ? I might have some to add :-) I'll give it a try... 1) Freedom is the cornerstone of the computing universe. Make sure that not only each application has the freedom to have it's own layout, slidebars, etc, but give the user the freedom to change these as well. 2) But, don't make this too easy. The correct way to choose a font for a terminal is to add a line xterm.vt100.font: -*-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-* to ~/.Xdefaults, which gets loaded into the server just _after_ the window managers fires up the default apps. No messing around with font panels and [set default] buttons. How else can I show off my superior knowledge of the world? 4) Make sure that some menus are pop-up, some pull-down, and others variable depending on a (app-specific) time-out. Keeps the grey matter young. 5) Don't let panels etc remember where they were last time. The FIND panel should be positioned right on top of the word just found - every time. 6) Keep the window manager and app-interface strictly seperated, so that you can [close] emacs, setting it in an eternal spin. Again, what else are sysadmins good for? 7) There should be no relation between printed copy and screen representation. A monitor is very different from a piece of paper! 8) UI actions should be user-hackable shell-scripts located in odd corners of the file system; this gives the user full flexibility to set things up the way she wants it. There must be more... -- G.J. van Oldenborgh Lorentz Institute for Theoretical Physics, Leiden University email: gj@lorentz.LeidenUniv.nl web: http://www-lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html
From: Dino Bagdadi <dino@ex-nihilo.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Calibrator.app for Intel? Date: 27 Sep 1996 15:10:43 GMT Organization: ex nihilo, inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <52gqpj$up@viper.shadow.net> References: <1996Sep25.120430.85564@cc.usu.edu> Keywords: gamma, monitors, NEXTSTEP Cc: edx@cc.usu.edu In <1996Sep25.120430.85564@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: > Once upon a time, there was an application for m68k > called Calibrator.app (I believe that was the name) > which allowed one to change the color calibration > performed by the workspace - it let you change the > gamma correction, and the color balance. Where can I get this app for Motorola? Thanks. -- Dino Bagdadi ex nihilo, inc. dino@ex-nihilo.com (ASCII, NeXTmail and MIME) Public PGP key available via `finger -l dbagdadi@hyper.shadow.net'
From: tfung1@pcocd2.intel.com (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker license Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:07:55 GMT Organization: Intel Corporation Message-ID: <52gqkb$pbf@news.fm.intel.com> References: <324C40BB.3705@swin.edu.au> Bruce Donaldson <bdonaldson@swin.edu.au> wrote: >G'day Again, >I recently posted an article asking for info on decent word processors >and the overall mood of the replies was to try either a) LaTeX or b) >FrameMaker. Trouble is I can't find who'll supply a license to FrameMaker >3.2 on the NeXT. Lighthouse no longer reseel that product, Omni never has >and so far Adobe simply gives no reply. >Any help would be greatly appreciated. How about calling Object Technology or OpenSource? >Bruce Donaldson >Swinburne University
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP switching to Win95 GUI ? Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:24:16 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <DyEDGH.M3y@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <52gnau$e5@highway.leidenuniv.nl> In article <52gnau$e5@highway.leidenuniv.nl> gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl (Geert Jan van Oldenborgh) writes: > Thomas Engel (tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org) wrote: > > Does someone here have a nice summary of X-Window UI goodies which NeXTSTEP > > should adopt ? I might have some to add :-) > > I'll give it a try... > ... > > There must be more... For reasons of portability, the colour model should be as tightly bound to the particular server I'm using. If I want my app to operate with 1bit/2bit/8bit gray/8bit colour/16bit colour/24bit colour in a palletised/truecolour/[other model] mode then I'll write code to do it. If you could throw in a vendor specific imaging model that I can use at the same time (say like GL, or one of Suns many attempts) as X (but not instead off X) that would be neat. It's always great fun trying to make the two worlds cooperate, as they interleave through your code (see also previous point - they're going to have to fight it out for control of my colourspace). Even more fun can be had if the hardware imageing mode doesn't understand remote displaying, so I can watch users freak out as someone logs into their machine, accidently takes over their display. With care this can even be designed such that an app will only run on a machine identical to mine, thereby aleviating all porting problems. $an
From: scott@bcog.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Benchmark Test for Intel? Date: 27 Sep 1996 17:10:28 GMT Organization: British Columbia OpenStep Group Message-ID: <52h1q4$fq8@news.bctel.net> I just purchased an P133 Intel ATX motherboard with the 2HX chipset and 32megs of EDO RAM, Adaptec 2940UW, Seagate fast SCSI 3 HD, ATI Mach64 Graphics Pro with 2 megs VRAM. Under Openstep/mach the computer runs very slow, barely faster than my NextStation Turbo Color. Are there any utilities out there that I will perform benchmark tests for this system?
From: lacourse@midusa.net (Dan LaCourse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apps to work with multi-page tiffs Date: 27 Sep 1996 18:06:55 GMT Organization: Netspace Internet Services Message-ID: <52h53v$6q21@news.midusa.net> I like to save scanned-in multi-page documents as a single multi-part tiff. The wonderful ScanOmatic.app can do this, as well as open and view existing mult-part tiffs. Does anyone know of an app that can take several separate tiffs and save them as a single multi-part tiff? -- Cheers, Dan LaCourse
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep File Viewer Problems for Solaris Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:55:18 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <52h859$72o@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <01bbab20$5e9755e0$0308dfce@jdaniels.efdata.com> "John Daniels" <jdaniels@efdata.com> wrote: >I just install the free download version of openstep and I have a problem Huh? Free download of OPENSTEP? >when file viewer loads. If I just type 'openstep', the workspace and dock >comes up just fine, but file viewer does not load all the way. I get just >a bare windows. If I type openstep -start wh.app I get the following error >which repeats over and over... What????? >I think it has to do with a daemon that isn't running, but I can't figure >it out. > >Everything else works fine. Glad to hear it (I think...) Does anyone know what he's talking about? Free download of OPENSTEP? I've gotta start staying awake during company meetings... Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: awang@plains.nodak.edu (Andy Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP switching to Win95 GUI ? Date: 27 Sep 1996 13:51:18 -0500 Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network (NDHECN) Message-ID: <52h7n6$75e@plains.nodak.edu> References: <51vkh5$hj4@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <526sff$olo@gnus.wildfire.com> <Dy9618.C5@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <52gnau$e5@highway.leidenuniv.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <52gnau$e5@highway.leidenuniv.nl>, Geert Jan van Oldenborgh <gj@rulgm4.LeidenUniv.nl> wrote: >2) But, don't make this too easy. The correct way to choose a font for a > terminal is to add a line >xterm.vt100.font: -*-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > to ~/.Xdefaults, which gets loaded into the server just _after_ the window > managers fires up the default apps. No messing around with font panels and > [set default] buttons. How else can I show off my superior knowledge of > the world? I really don't know where you get this from. my .xsession loads my .Xdefaults before i load a window manager. I checked both the system default Xsession scripts, and default Xinitrc scripts for X11R6.1 and all of those files load the .Xdefaults before loading any other programs. If your X setup is loading your .Xdefaults after starting up the window manager, then you've misconfigured something with your .xinitrc or your .xsession. it's not a problem with X itself. >5) Don't let panels etc remember where they were last time. The FIND panel > should be positioned right on top of the word just found - every time. while i dislike the find panel being positioned in an annoying place i usually dislike panels remembering where they used to be too. I could spend a night of doing all kinds of neat stuff with OmniWeb and Terminal.app,k and various other windows, and then come back tomorow, and my mood will be different, and i want my windows arranged differently. in fact, i know LOTS of people who feel the same way about this. >8) UI actions should be user-hackable shell-scripts located in odd corners of > the file system; this gives the user full flexibility to set things up the > way she wants it. odd corners? why do you say that? every configuraable option for my X session is locaked in my home directory. and well documented so i know exactly what i did. andy -- ------------------ Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT or MIME mail OK ------------------- - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - - What the hell is a chicken? - http://space.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - ------------------------ awang@plains.nodak.edu -------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Message-ID: <199609272011.QAA08198@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <m0v6eVh-000JLFC@ex-nihilo.com> From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 96 16:11:50 -0400 Subject: Re: EnhanceMail for OpenStep 4.0 Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: <m0v6eVh-000JLFC@ex-nihilo.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com Dino Bagdadi on Fri, 27 Sep 96 wrote: > Where can I find ExtraCommands.bundle? It (and all the other bundles I know of) are linked at: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/#MAIL TjL
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep File Viewer Problems for Solaris Date: 27 Sep 1996 22:04:50 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-b-25.usc.edu Message-ID: <52hj22$5gi@usc.edu> References: <01bbab20$5e9755e0$0308dfce@jdaniels.efdata.com> <52h859$72o@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> Cc: mpaque@pacbell.net In <52h859$72o@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> Mike Paquette wrote: > "John Daniels" <jdaniels@efdata.com> wrote: > > >I just install the free download version of openstep and I have a problem > > Huh? Free download of OPENSTEP? [snip] > Does anyone know what he's talking about? Free download of OPENSTEP? > I've gotta start staying awake during company meetings... Well, I thought this was for OPENSTEP/Solaris, and just the user env. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Openstep File Viewer Problems for Solaris Date: 27 Sep 1996 22:08:56 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <52hj9o$qfq@news4.digex.net> References: <01bbab20$5e9755e0$0308dfce@jdaniels.efdata.com> <52h859$72o@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) wrote: > Huh? Free download of OPENSTEP? > Glad to hear it (I think...) > Does anyone know what he's talking about? Free download of OPENSTEP? I've gotta start staying awake during company meetings... C'mon Mike, you're pulling our funny bones right ?-) Of course he's talking about SUN's free OPENSTEP for Solaris... Which you can find at: ___SUN'S___ Here is what SUN's OPENSTEP looks like: „http://www.sun.com:80/solaris/products/openstep/images/sol-openstep.gif You can get a free copy of SUN's OPENSTEP 1.0 if you have a SUN machine with Solaris (I think the edu version of solaris goes for 99bux) at: „http://www.sun.com:80/sunsoft/solaris/products/openstep/download/index.h tml You can find out more about SUN's OPENSTEP implementation at: „http://www.sun.com:80/sunsoft/solaris/products/openstep/sol-openstep.htm l -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy...It's coming... | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: Technical Options <toi@mcs.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Chicago/ N. Carolina Next Developer Date: Fri, 27 Sep 96 14:33:48 PDT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <NEWTNews.14688.843871023.Postmaster@toi.mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Multiple positions: S/W Engineers to S/R S/W Engineers Salary commenurate with experience, 40-80K Plus bonus. Desired Skills: Nextstep, Objective C, Sybase, Interface Builder & Next development tools The candidate should have 2-5 years plus experience. Eligible candidate should have the following skills: 1) Ability to handle multiple projects simultaneously 2) Ability to work under pressure in time critical situations 3) Problem solving and analytical capabilities Knowledge of one of the following: - Financial Derivatives Business - Currency Options Pricing - Risk Management - Interest Rate Derivatives Contact Mike Hartnett for more information; Technical Options, Inc P-630.357.9400 toi@mcs.net F-630.357.9411
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hhoff@schwaben.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Subject: Re: Openstep File Viewer Problems for Solaris Message-ID: <DyEvH0.2y9@flop.schwaben.de> Sender: news@flop.schwaben.de Organization: home References: <01bbab20$5e9755e0$0308dfce@jdaniels.efdata.com> <52h859$72o@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 21:53:24 GMT Mike Paquette wrote: > Huh? Free download of OPENSTEP? > (snip) > What????? > (snip) > Does anyone know what he's talking about? Free download of OPENSTEP? > I've gotta start staying awake during company meetings... Rest easy, Mike, it's not only you who's sleeping at NEXT. He's talking about Sun's OPENSTEP/Solaris, which is freely downloadable for academic users.
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: FrameMaker for Solaris OpenStep? Date: 28 Sep 1996 01:47:05 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <52i02p$fo4@agate.berkeley.edu> In http://www.sun.com/solaris/products/openstep/images/sol-openstep.gif I notice a FrameMaker icon on the dock of Solaris OPENSTEP desktop image. Is that a native FrameMaker running unser OS, or just a wrapper around the plain (X/DPS ?) FrameMaker for Solaris, or a useless mockup ("..." indicating iactive state) ? -- Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu>
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP switching to Win95 GUI ? Date: 28 Sep 1996 03:48:42 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <52i76q$lra@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> References: <51vkh5$hj4@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <526sff$olo@gnus.wildfire.com> <Dy9618.C5@shinto.nbg.sub.org> <52gnau$e5@highway.leidenuniv.nl> <52h7n6$75e@plains.nodak.edu> awang@plains.nodak.edu (Andy Wang) wrote: > my .xsession loads my .Xdefaults before i load a window manager. > > I checked both the system default Xsession scripts, and default Xinitrc scripts > for X11R6.1 and all of those files load the .Xdefaults before > loading any other programs. > If your X setup is loading your .Xdefaults after starting up the > window manager, then you've misconfigured something with your .xinitrc > or your .xsession. > it's not a problem with X itself. Having to deal with .xinitrc, .xsession, .Xdefaults, .x*9%6$#, whatever IS a problem with X itself!! Thank gawd NeXT didn't make the horrendous mistake of using X Window. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: steveg219@aol.com (SteveG219) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HP 5M ppd anyone? Date: 28 Sep 1996 03:11:11 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <52ij2f$2rt@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3247D485.4B1A@widomaker.com> PPD files for all HP and other printers are available at adobe.com I recently downloaded HP5m and installed using the networked jet direct card without a hitch (that is after updating the jetdirect firmware!) The key is to get the DOS PPD and rename it using the NeXT convention. This is covered in a next answer about PPD's, search NeXT Answers for PPD, it is should be readily available. Steve Greenberg
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker license Date: 28 Sep 1996 11:50:05 GMT Organization: -=MO.NET=- MVP-Net, Inc's Missouri Operations Message-ID: <52j3dd$img@twain.mo.net> References: <324C40BB.3705@swin.edu.au> <52gqkb$pbf@news.fm.intel.com> In-Reply-To: <52gqkb$pbf@news.fm.intel.com> On 09/27/96, Tin-Yau Fung wrote: >Bruce Donaldson <bdonaldson@swin.edu.au> wrote: > >>G'day Again, > >>I recently posted an article asking for info on decent word processors >>and the overall mood of the replies was to try either a) LaTeX or b) >>FrameMaker. Trouble is I can't find who'll supply a license to FrameMaker >>3.2 on the NeXT. Lighthouse no longer reseel that product, Omni never has >>and so far Adobe simply gives no reply. > >>Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > How about calling Object Technology or OpenSource? I think OpenSource is now "Closed"Source. :-)
From: leahy@math.rutgers.edu (Andrew Leahy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Random Dock Destruction: Causes? Solutions? Date: 28 Sep 1996 17:22:06 -0400 Organization: Rutgers University LCSR Message-ID: <52k4tu$755@math.rutgers.edu> Keywords: next, nextstep, dock We have a network of Intel, HP, and NeXT machines running NeXTStep 3.3 in a netinfo domain. Until recently, home directories were served via NFS from another Intel machine running NeXTStep. To provide better connectivity to individuals using Macs and PCs, we switched the home directories to a Linux NFS server running Samba and Netatalk. (The old server now acts only as a netinfo server.) But ever since the switch, our NeXTStep users have occasionally logged in to find their Docks reset to the default Dock. This does not happen every time an individual logs in, but often enough for these people to be extremely frustrated by having to rebuild the Dock and their individual preferences every time it occurs. Would anybody have suggestions about why this is occurring, or be willing to describe how the Dock operates, so I can track this down? (E.g., is the Dock ticklish about time stamps on various files being in sync? I've noticed that the Linux server tends to run ahead of the time on the local machines.) Barring that, does anybody know how to keep and install a backup copy of the Dock (and preferences) for when this occurs? Andrew Leahy leahy@math.rutgers.edu P.S. We installed new tape backup software on the old NeXT server to back up the home accounts about the same time as we switched NFS servers. Would this have anything to do with it?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: Adobe Photoshop-type program for NeXT Message-ID: <324DB86F.794B@goldengate.net> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 16:44:47 -0700 Organization: transwarp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey there, I'm looking for a graphics program, like Adobe Photoshop, for NeXT. I recently (yesterday) purchased a NeXTstation Turbo Color and wanted to use it for some web shtuffs, thus needing a graphics program. What are people using for web development on NeXT's (HTML stuff, not WebObjects and all that). Thanks for any info. Later. -- MATT | mailto:invisix@goldengate.net ** living a microsoft ** jurcich | http://www.goldengate.net/~invisix ** free lifestyle ** Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 32MB, 1.5GB, 17" Fimi, NEXTSTEP 3.2
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adobe Photoshop-type program for NeXT Date: 28 Sep 1996 23:16:52 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-h-65.usc.edu Message-ID: <52kbl4$au2@usc.edu> References: <324DB86F.794B@goldengate.net> Cc: invisix@goldengate.net In <324DB86F.794B@goldengate.net> Matt Jurcich wrote: > Hey there, > > I'm looking for a graphics program, like Adobe Photoshop, > for NeXT. I recently (yesterday) purchased a NeXTstation > Turbo Color and wanted to use it for some web shtuffs, thus > needing a graphics program. > > What are people using for web development on NeXT's (HTML > stuff, not WebObjects and all that). For a Photoshop equivalent or better! I'd wholeheartedly recommend TIFFanyII SEE very informative webpage dealing with NeXTSTEP and designing for the web at: http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/~malc/NEXTSTEP/WWW/ Wherein Mmalcom Crawford did a terrific job! -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Adobe Photoshop-type program for NeXT Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 09:51:18 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <324DC804.2885@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <324DB86F.794B@goldengate.net> <52kbl4$au2@usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Matthew N. Reichman" <reichman@usc.edu> >> Hey there, >> >> I'm looking for a graphics program, like Adobe Photoshop, >> for NeXT. I recently (yesterday) purchased a NeXTstation >> Turbo Color and wanted to use it for some web shtuffs, thus >> needing a graphics program. >> >For a Photoshop equivalent or better! I'd wholeheartedly >recommend TIFFanyII Yes, TIFFanyII is Professional Image Processing software. You can find more info following TIFFanyII home page: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj/ YoungHoon Kil From South Korea Email: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr NeXT & BeBox World: http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai
From: nedulous@ix.netcom.com(Ned Smith ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: zmodem for NS Intel Date: 29 Sep 1996 00:48:10 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <52kh0a$1d9@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <323BB001.42AF@voyager.net> <51vshn$aeu@news.bctel.net> I'm looking for zmodem for intel. Found it (old version) for Moto, but not anything more recent. If you know where it is, or have a copy, please let me know where I can ftp it from, or offer to mail it to me. Thanks much, Kurt (using Ned's account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: zmodem for NS Intel Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.960929022314.9911A-100000@nerc3.nerc.com> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 02:24:19 -0400 References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <323BB001.42AF@voyager.net> <51vshn$aeu@news.bctel.net> <52kh0a$1d9@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> To: Ned Smith <nedulous@ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <52kh0a$1d9@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can get it from: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/comm/rzsz.0525.NI.b.tar.gz (just binaries) ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/comm/rzsz.0525.NI.bs.tar.gz (binaries and source) TjL On 29 Sep 1996, Ned Smith wrote: > Date: 29 Sep 1996 00:48:10 GMT > From: Ned Smith <nedulous@ix.netcom.com> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc, comp.sys.next.software > Subject: zmodem for NS Intel > > I'm looking for zmodem for intel. Found it (old version) for Moto, but > not anything more recent. > > If you know where it is, or have a copy, please let me know where I can > ftp it from, or offer to mail it to me. > > Thanks much, > Kurt (using Ned's account) > > > >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Random Dock Destruction: Causes? Solutions? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.960929022559.9911B-100000@nerc3.nerc.com> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 02:40:48 -0400 References: <52k4tu$755@math.rutgers.edu> To: Andrew Leahy <leahy@math.rutgers.edu> In-Reply-To: <52k4tu$755@math.rutgers.edu> Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 28 Sep 1996, Andrew Leahy wrote: > Date: 28 Sep 1996 17:22:06 -0400 > From: Andrew Leahy <leahy@math.rutgers.edu> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > Subject: Random Dock Destruction: Causes? Solutions? > > Would anybody have suggestions about why this is occurring, or be > willing to describe how the Dock operates, so I can track this down? > (E.g., is the Dock ticklish about time stamps on various files being > in sync? I've noticed that the Linux server tends to run ahead of the > time on the local machines.) Barring that, does anybody know how to > keep and install a backup copy of the Dock (and preferences) for when > this occurs? dread Workspace DockPaths that's the relevant info. I can't imagine it would care about the timestamp. Here's a good idea for inclusion in you .LogoutHook script (you do have them, right? You should!) dread -l > ~/.olddwrites.txt That will send a copy of your dwrites (all of them) to the file ~/.olddwrites.txt on Logout. That way if you log in and anything has changed you can get the dwrite out of that file (before you logout, of course) > P.S. We installed new tape backup software on the old NeXT server to > back up the home accounts about the same time as we switched NFS > servers. Would this have anything to do with it? I wouldn't think so. TjL
From: humanist@interport.net (Michael Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: got a NS 3.2/3.3 CD you can sell me? Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:25:28 GMT Organization: Humanist Movement Message-ID: <52meqs$43c@park.interport.net> I want to try out NS. Does anyone have an "old" or extra 3.2/3.3 CD they can sell me? ------------------- "Computers are like people; the old generation can never figure out the software that moves the newer generation. And it's better that way-- otherwise the new generation will be stuck, and the old one will behave like they are stupid and just don't get it." Michael Howard=humanist@interport.net=www.interport.net/~humanist -------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: POP Mail/News Clients Message-ID: <324EF968.2781@goldengate.net> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 15:34:16 -0700 Organization: transwarp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What's everyone using for POP mail clients and for reading news? I just picked up my NeXTstation Turbo Color (my first NeXT) and need some software suggestions. I grabbed PopOver to run with mail.app, but I don't really like it. Is there something that's just Pop mail? (On my SGI I just use Netscape for everything)... I grabbed NewsGrazer, and it's funny to work in as well. :) What we using out there? Thanks for the info. -- MATT | mailto:invisix@goldengate.net ** living a microsoft ** jurcich | http://www.goldengate.net/~invisix ** free lifestyle ** Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 32MB, 1.5GB, 17" Fimi, NEXTSTEP 3.2
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Inline MIME attachment NS Newsgroup browser?! Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 17:52:43 -0500 Organization: Illinois State University- Instructional Technology Services Message-ID: <324EFD43.3CC6@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if there's an Inline MIME attachment NS Newsgroup browser?! In other words, look at how Netscape News show graphic images in the news posting at the bottom, is there a NS version of a newsbrowser with similar abilities? Thanx -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ASCII, MIME, SUN or NeXT Mail; PGP ytalk:eadubie@138.87.201.11 For PGP public key, send mail with subj "Send PGP Key" Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University "Intelligence is the ultimate aphrodisiac." - Tim Leary ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: POP Mail/News Clients Date: 29 Sep 1996 22:16:03 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-d-69.usc.edu Message-ID: <52msf3$1id@usc.edu> References: <324EF968.2781@goldengate.net> Cc: invisix@goldengate.net In <324EF968.2781@goldengate.net> Matt Jurcich wrote: > What's everyone using for POP mail clients and for reading news? > > I just picked up my NeXTstation Turbo Color (my first NeXT) and need > some software suggestions. > > I grabbed PopOver to run with mail.app, but I don't really like it. Is > there something that's just Pop mail? (On my SGI I just use Netscape > for everything)... What's wrong with it and how do you use it? What version are you using? I'm using v1.5-0.7beta I use it and don't even know it's running (in that I just send and receive mail when my link's up without thinking once about it). > I grabbed NewsGrazer, and it's funny to work in as well. :) What we > using out there? RadicalNews, Alexandra, NewsFlash seem to all be good. I prefer RadicalNews. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: (CRITICAL ANSWER) Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: 30 Sep 1996 00:58:07 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <52n5uv$lb@gaea.titan.org> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> <529frq$gu9@precipice.fdn.fr> <Pine.HPP.3.95.960925160042.26524A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote: > If I get a new demo CD, I'd take a deeper look at it and try to build a > small demo package. But IMHO the biggest size for a commercial demo on a > FTP site shouldn't exceed 15MB. Who'd download such huge files? Only for a > demo! Just as a quick note, a demo for the upcoming and much-heralded (Windows) game Diablo is now available for ftp - at approximately 66 MB. Apparently it's a popular download - we had a lot of trouble getting a connection due to the ftp server being busy. (So far, it looks pretty cool, though I'm more of a twitch-game [such as Quake] fan myself.) Though I agree with you in principle - anything over two or three MB has to be really compelling before I'll download it. -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok I'm not speaking for Omni.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: POP Mail/News Clients Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960929220256.2785B-100000@charisma> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 22:05:01 -0400 References: <324EF968.2781@goldengate.net> <52msf3$1id@usc.edu> To: invisix@goldengate.net In-Reply-To: <52msf3$1id@usc.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, a good alternative may be pine, if you have IMAP capabilites at your ISP. That's one binary that allows you to read mail and news, and does so in a very consistent manner that I find very easy to use. TjL
From: al604724@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (G. Cortizo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need some money? Readme! Date: 30 Sep 1996 06:28:27 GMT Organization: ITESM Campus Monterrey . DINF-DTCI Message-ID: <52npab$mtl@news.mty.itesm.mx> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Taking 3 minutes to read what follows can change your life : I saw an article in an internet newsgroup telling me I could make $50,000 within a month for an investment of only $5. I decided that even if I had to throw 5$ into the fire, I wouldn't care that much, and gave it a try . After all I wanted a LOT more than five dollars. Two weeks later, I began receiving money in the mail! I couldn't believe it! Soon, hundreds, and then thousands of dollars began to roll in. Within 4 weeks, I had received a total of $59,354! I bought myself a car and things I wanted for a long long time! I only had to follow three steps! If you follow the three steps below, there is no reason why the same shouldn't happen to you! This is a legitimate investment opportunity. You invest $5, and you receive a return on your investment. So does the next investor. This is NOT ILLEGAL, NOT A CHAIN LETTER, AND IT IS PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE. If you don't keep track of the people that send you dollar bills, it is illegal. People are paying you to be on a mailing list. If you are not interested, then don't participate, but please print this article and pass it on to someone who may be interested, so they can take advantage. The procedure is simple: 1) Write your name and address on 5 sheets of paper. Below that, write the words, "Please add me to your mailing list." Fold $1 note in each piece of paper and mail them to the following 5 addresses.: 2. Niels de Korver Eindhovenseweg 93. 6002 TB, Weert The Netherlands 3. Nick Von Pickartz Voorburcht 32 6002 VX, Weert The Netherlands 4. Marcus Colak Vilvoordehof 5 5628 TG, Eindhoven The Netherlands 5. G. Antonio Cortizo Geminis 129-6 Colonia Contry C.P. 64860 Monterrey N.L. Mexico If you're mailing overseas, it's best to write "Air Mail" on the envelope. Otherwise it'll land on a boat and it'll take forever. 2) Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other four names up. In other words, #5 becomes #4 and so on. Put your name as the fifth one on the list. Use a simple text editor such as Notepad. Any editor will do. 3) Post the article to at least 200 newsgroups. There are 17,000, so it shouldn't be hard to find that many. Try posting to as many newsgroups as you can, and the bigger the newsgroup is, the more people are to see your message! You are now in the mail order investment business, and should start seeing returns within a week or two. Of course, the more newsgroups you post to, the greater your return is. Whatever but make sure your address is correct. Now, here is why the system works: -Of every 200 posts I made, I received 5 responses. Yes, only 5. You make $5 for every 200 posts with your name at #5. -Each person who sent you $1 now also makes 200 additional postings with your name at #4. ie. 1000 postings. On average therefore, 50 people will send you $1 with your name at #4. $50. -Your 50 new agents make 200 postings each with your name at #3 or 10,000 postings. Average return 500 people = $500. They make 200 postings each with your name at #2=100,000 postings=5000 return at $1 each=$5000. -Finally, 5,000 people make 200 postings with your name at #1 and you get a return of $50,000 before your name drops off the list. AND THATS IF EVERYONE DOWN THE LINE MAKES 200 POSTINGS! Total income in one cycle=$55,000. From time to time, when you see your name no longer on the list, you take the latest posting that appears in the newsgroups, and send out another $5, and put your name at #5, and start posting again. Remember, 200 postings is only a guideline. the more you post, the greater the return. Lets review why you should do this. THE ONLY COST IS $5, AND 5 STAMPS, AND 5 ENVELOPES. Anyone can afford $5 for such an effortless investment with such SPECTACULAR RETURNS. Some people have said to me, "what happens if the scheme is played out and no one sends me any money? "Big Deal, so you lose $5-but what are the chances of that happening ?? Do you Realize that NOBODY cares for the LEGAL chance of winning such a BIG money as 50,000.00 $$$$ ???? and all for a microscopic investment of five separate dollars? just think of all of the new Internet users that join the net every day!!! There are millions of internet users, and millions of new net surfers every month!!! This is the great plus of the Internet, people all over the world can hear you and listen carefully if you talk reasonably. Everyone will take that chance! REMEMBER-HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHEAT THIS IDEA TO MAKE MONEY!! BESIDES,NOT PLAYING THE GAME FAIRLY IS ILLEGAL. SO LET'S BE REASONABLE AND PLAY FAIRLY, SO WE CAN ALL ENJOY THE INTERNET GOLD MINE. GOOD LUCK FOR YOU ALL, and remember, play fair and you'll win!!
From: chinagc@ix.netcom.com (Longtian Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: English to Chinese, Chinese to English Translation Softwares Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 06:32:21 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <52nptu$ni9@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> TransPerfect is the most useful translation tool available for anyone whose business or pleasure involves communication in both English and Chinese. TransPerfect is a knowledge-based translation software running on PC to translate English text into Chinese. It allows user to do translation of various fields with its specialist dictionaries. This translation application is good for technical manual, Reference book, magazine, journal, business letter and any text file etc. It helps technology company, business corporation, government organization, university and college, immigrant and law firms, educational organization and student etc. The translation speeds up with PC CPU. It processes 6,000 Chinese characters per hour in PC 386-25. In addition to its full translation capacities, TransPerfect also provides its user a very useful and easy-to-use tool, called Transperfect Wizard, for doing on-line translation. Whether you are viewing an e-mail, or on the World Wide Web (WWW), or on any other windows application such as Word, wizard can translate for you the entire page, the section you highlight, or the sentence you typed in, right away and right there. It also provides a quick on-line English-to-Chinese Dictionary look up. TransPerfect English to Chinese 5.3 Professional version Source language: English Target language: Chinese TransPerfect Chinese to English 2.0 Professional version Source language: Chinese Target language: English For more information, please check out http://www.china-guide.com/translat.htm China Guide-The Gateway to Chinese Culture! http://www.china-guide.com/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Control: cancel <52npab$mtl@news.mty.itesm.mx> Subject: cmsg cancel <52npab$mtl@news.mty.itesm.mx> From: snowhare@xmission.com Sender: al604724@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (G. Cortizo) Date: 30 Sep 96 06:42:26 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.52npab$mtl@news.mty.itesm.mx> Organization: Devilbunnies Spam Cancelling Division Spam Cancellation. For details see news.admin.net-abuse.announce
From: Jacob Nielsen <jacob@dannug.dk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why do colorized rtf signatures and rtfd signatures cause Mail.app to sendout weird MIME garbage? Date: 29 Sep 1996 10:11:21 GMT Organization: Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <52li09$cv@jnext.dannug.dk> References: <52aic1$mf6@usc.edu> reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote: > Why do colorized rtf signatures and rtfd signatures cause > Mail.app to sendout weird MIME garbage? > > I.e. I get a string of letters and nos. on one line, thought > the signature and the message also come through? The use of PANTONE colors cause this annoying effect :-( Jacob -- Jacob Nielsen Email: jacob@dannug.dk (NeXT, MIME, SUN, ASCII) Home Page: http://www.dannug.dk/~jacob
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Why do colorized rtf signatures and rtfd signatures cause Mail.app to sendout weird MIME garbage? Date: 30 Sep 1996 08:28:51 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-d-52.usc.edu Message-ID: <52o0c3$f5t@usc.edu> References: <52aic1$mf6@usc.edu> <52li09$cv@jnext.dannug.dk> Cc: jacob@dannug.dk In <52li09$cv@jnext.dannug.dk> Jacob Nielsen wrote: > reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote: > > Why do colorized rtf signatures and rtfd signatures cause > > Mail.app to sendout weird MIME garbage? > > > > I.e. I get a string of letters and nos. on one line, thought > > the signature and the message also come through? > > The use of PANTONE colors cause this annoying effect :-( Thank you very much! -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: (CRITICAL ANSWER) Decent word processors or desktop publishers for NeXT? Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:41:13 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960930114852.12774A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <3239CF45.5937@swin.edu.au> <Dy3877.1Ko@papageno.rim.or.jp> <521ijm$c04@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <524fnv$19l@news3.digex.net> <529frq$gu9@precipice.fdn.fr> <Pine.HPP.3.95.960925160042.26524A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <52n5uv$lb@gaea.titan.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52n5uv$lb@gaea.titan.org> On 30 Sep 1996 andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: > > If I get a new demo CD, I'd take a deeper look at it and try to build a > > small demo package. But IMHO the biggest size for a commercial demo on a > > FTP site shouldn't exceed 15MB. Who'd download such huge files? Only for a > > demo! > > Just as a quick note, a demo for the upcoming and much-heralded > (Windows) game Diablo is now available for ftp - at approximately 66 > MB. Apparently it's a popular download - we had a lot of trouble > getting a connection due to the ftp server being busy. (So far, it Just another quick note: This might be true for the USA, where, as far as I know, local calls are free. Assuming a 28.8k modem you can transfer approx. 3.5k/sec = 210kB/min = 12Mb/h. Therefore downloading your 66MB game would take >5hours (assuming a superb connection!). Way too long for me and much too much costs, because my local calls aren't free. Greetings, Bernhard.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: Useful RTF to HTML convertor for awkward NeXT-style RTF Date: 30 Sep 1996 11:18:41 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <52oaah$or5@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <32417CA9.2461@tus.ssi1.com> <Dy1KHn.AIz@euler.han.de> <R.Pine.NXT.3.95.960921152359.2838B-100000@charisma> In-Reply-To: <R.Pine.NXT.3.95.960921152359.2838B-100000@charisma> On 09/21/96, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > what is eText.app and where can it be found? > It should be at: http://xent.w3.org/eTextEngine Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: kinau@lennon.csufresno.edu (Kin Hung Au) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Latext2html for NeXT? Date: 27 Sep 1996 18:15:23 GMT Organization: Californi State University, Fresno Message-ID: <52h5jr$bfp@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> Hi, Did anyone success to use latex2html on NeXT? I installed perl 5.000a and ghostscript on our NeXT stations. But, I still can't get it working. Can anyone give me a hint? --Kin ****************************************************************************** Kin Hung Au Internet Address: kinau@csufresno.edu Instructional Computing Consultant California State University, Fresno Tel# 209-278-3915 School of Natural Science FAX# 209-278-7139 Office of Dean, MS #90 Fresno CA 93740 http://maxwell.phys.csufresno.edu:8001/~kinau/ ******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Message-ID: <199609292341.TAA10725@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 96 19:41:25 -0400 Subject: LogoutHook and LoginHook source and binaries? Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com Somewhere on the 'net I came across souce code and/or a binary to be used as a LogoutHook and LoginHook (which looked for a ~/.LoginHook or ~/.LogoutHook). Anyone know where these are? I'm guessing they are part of a package because I can't find it by name. Thanks TjL
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail fonts Date: 30 Sep 1996 17:13:10 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <52ov36$513@bignews.shef.ac.uk> I'm sure when I first started using Mail.app the message header fields were in Helvetica (bold for the fieldnames), and the body could be in something else. Now I seem to have messed things up (I wanted the body in Ohlfs), and can't get back... any suggestions? Best wishes, mmalc. -- rawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: daneel.dcs.shef.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960930114852.12774A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-U-00083 On 09/30/96, Bernhard Scholz wrote: > > Just as a quick note, a demo for the upcoming and much-heralded > > (Windows) game Diablo is now available for ftp - at approximately 66 > > MB. Apparently it's a popular download - we had a lot of trouble > > getting a connection due to the ftp server being busy. (So far, it > > Just another quick note: This might be true for the USA, where, as far as > I know, local calls are free. Assuming a 28.8k modem you can transfer > approx. 3.5k/sec = 210kB/min = 12Mb/h. Therefore downloading your 66MB > game would take >5hours (assuming a superb connection!). > Way too long for me and much too much costs, because my local calls aren't > free. > Umm, this looks to me like a good reason to put oneVision on a server in the States. I get the impression very few people outside of Europe have heard of it (despite the NeXTWorld review a couple of years ago), and that any opportunity to get them to try it out would be worthwhile. Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: hal@sims.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Latext2html for NeXT? Date: 30 Sep 1996 16:43:50 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <52otc6$pkc@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <52h5jr$bfp@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> In article <52h5jr$bfp@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> kinau@lennon.csufresno.edu (Kin Hung Au) writes: > Hi, > > Did anyone success to use latex2html on NeXT? I installed perl 5.000a > and ghostscript on our NeXT stations. But, I still can't get it working. > > Can anyone give me a hint? 1. Download netpbm from next-ftp and install it. 2. Download the CubXWindow demo from next-ftp peak and set the ghostscript Makefile to point to CubXWindow.app/X11R6/lib 3. Make sure that latex2html knows where these files are. I *think* that's all I had to do. In any event, I got it to work, so you know it can be done. Good luck. -- Hal Varian, Dean voice: 510-642-9980 SIMS, 102 South Hall fax: 510-642-5814 University of California hal@sims.berkeley.edu Berkeley, CA 94720-4600 http://www.sims.berkeley.edu/~hal
From: Chris Barnes <cbarnes@cis.tamu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: POP Mail/News Clients Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:19:32 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960930131905.18322A-100000@cis> References: <324EF968.2781@goldengate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <324EF968.2781@goldengate.net> On Sun, 29 Sep 1996, Matt Jurcich wrote: > What's everyone using for POP mail clients and for reading news? pine does both. It's not fancy, but does everything I like. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Barnes (409) 846-3273 (home) chris-barnes@tamu.edu (409) 845-8300 (work) http://helper.tamu.edu/STAFF/cbarnes/
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FrameMaker license Date: 29 Sep 1996 09:37:21 GMT Organization: Navigator Message-ID: <52lg0h$69e@marsu.navigator.de> References: <324C40BB.3705@swin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: bdonaldson@swin.edu.au In <324C40BB.3705@swin.edu.au> Bruce Donaldson wrote: > G'day Again, > > I recently posted an article asking for info on decent word processors > and the overall mood of the replies was to try either a) LaTeX or b) > FrameMaker. Trouble is I can't find who'll supply a license to FrameMaker > 3.2 on the NeXT. Lighthouse no longer reseel that product, Omni never has > and so far Adobe simply gives no reply. Seems like we have to face Nextstep's application base is rapidly dying. -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.navigator.de/
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: zmodem for NS Intel Date: 30 Sep 1996 20:13:33 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <52p9ld$nko@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <52kh0a$1d9@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> In article <52kh0a$1d9@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> nedulous@ix.netcom.com(Ned Smith ) writes: > I'm looking for zmodem for intel. Found it (old version) for Moto, but > not anything more recent. > > If you know where it is, or have a copy, please let me know where I can > ftp it from, or offer to mail it to me. I've uploaded a newer version to next-ftp.peak.org, and for now, it lives in /pub/next/submissions/rzsz-3.4.README /pub/next/submissions/rzsz-3.4.NIHS.tar.gz NOTE: This version of rzsz is copyrighted as SHAREWARE (NOT by me, by it's authors). -- Rex Dieter Computer System Manager Department of Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska Lincoln
From: Joakim Johansson <jocke@rat.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep/Solaris ugly fonts Was: Re: Openstep File Viewer Problems for Solaris Date: 30 Sep 1996 08:55:55 GMT Organization: Research & Trade AB Distribution: world Message-ID: <52o1ur$kdd@baldwin.rat.se> References: <DyCKuA.CCn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans writes > Are your fonts annoyingly rendered? Mine are, and yes, I've installed the > OpenWindows patches. Yes, they are quite ugly.. A guess out of the blue would be that Sun doesn't maked use of the screen-resolution bitmap fonts, but rather scale the fonts "all the time". Anyone that knows that would care to share with us? The strange thing is that the X-style popup menu (which you get when you middle-click the workspace background) looks good! (like in NS...) They still has a decent amount of "polishing" to do, but it is an interesting start.. Joakim -- Joakim Johansson Software Developer, Research & Trade jocke@rat.se <NeXTmail, MIME> http://www.rat.se/
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Random Dock Destruction: Causes? Solutions? Date: 30 Sep 1996 19:34:16 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <52p7bo$i4u@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <52k4tu$755@math.rutgers.edu> leahy@math.rutgers.edu (Andrew Leahy) wrote: > But ever since the switch, our NeXTStep users have occasionally > logged in to find their Docks reset to the default Dock. This > does not happen every time an individual logs in, but often enough > for these people to be extremely frustrated by having to rebuild > the Dock and their individual preferences every time it occurs. I've had this problem when I was low on disk space. More generally, I think you get the problem if during logout there is an error saving the defaults database (a number of defaults are saved when you log out). I'm not sure that this helps you at all, though... --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: youffer@pop.wwa.com (Paul Erickson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Cracking LocalHost Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 16:56:19 -0500 Organization: WorldWide Access (tm) - Chicagoland Internet Services (http://www.wwa.com) Message-ID: <youffer-3009961656190001@vh2-010.wwa.com> I have a NeXT TurboColor workstation. Can anyone tell me how to get by the localhost login screen? Thanks a heap PE (New to NeXT)
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