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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Access to a cd-rom..help Message-ID: <Dx0JB2.9A@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <502o0a$q70@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 17:30:38 GMT In article <502o0a$q70@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) writes: > Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten) wrote: > > >I have a NeXT 68030 with a hd and od and recently a Applecd Sc plus. > >I have no floppy drive and the os is 1.0a... > >I cannot figure out how to access the cd-rom. > >Please help > > Ouch! > > NEXTSTEP 1.0a doesn't understand CD-ROMs. You'll need to upgrade to a > more recent version of NEXTSTEP, which will be a trick in itself, as > NEXTSTEP 3.0 and later are only supplied on CD-ROM. > > Your best bet would be to find a friend of contact a user group and > see if they could help you upgrade your disk or produce a bootable OD > from a recent version CD-ROM. NEXTSTEP 3.X CD-ROMs are often availabe > in the comp.sys.next.marketplace group at good prices. > I consider upgrading a NS 1.0a system a sacrilege :-p They ought to sit under a class box with a photograph of Steve Jobs (and probably other NeXT paraphernalia) next to it... Serious! -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: stes@cwi.nl (David Stes) Subject: Re: datebook/planner SW Message-ID: <DwwqE3.E69@cwi.nl> Sender: news@cwi.nl (The Daily Dross) Organization: CWI, Amsterdam References: <4vsith$bpq@cgl.ucsf.edu> <4vt3d0$4ev@usenet.rpi.edu> <503ua6$ejm@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:13:14 GMT In article <503ua6$ejm@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) writes: > >You should look at Pencil Me In, from Sarrus Software. It is much better >than Windows calendar software, and was developed for NeXTSTEP. Start Absolutely. I find it one of the finest pieces of software developed for NextStep. I rate it second after Improv. It's really a nice user interface.
From: Malte Tancred (malte@oops.se) Newsgroups: biz.jobs.offered,comp.databases.object,comp.jobs,comp.jobs.computer,comp.jobs.offered,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.objective-c,comp.object.corba,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AT&T Wireless Services - SEATTLE - SENIOR PROGRAMMER ANALYST FOR DATA MODELING AND SYSTEM DESIGN Date: 30 Aug 1996 10:00:29 GMT Organization: Taide Net Message-ID: <506e3t$sj3@parabol.taide.net> References: <01bb93a5.4889d4e0$61629dcc@karen95> In-Reply-To: <01bb93a5.4889d4e0$61629dcc@karen95> On 08/27/96, "The Washington Firm, Ltd." wrote: [snipped ad] Boring adds doesn't belong in this news group. I don't want to read this shit. Post your ads in the right group! Malte -- Malte Tancred OOPS art, HB malte@oops.se http://www.oops.se/~malte
From: Kevin Page <page@agames.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: questions Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:16:15 -0700 Organization: Time Warner Interactive Message-ID: <3225198F.41C6@agames.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everyone! Myself and a friend are interesed in purchasing some Nextstations to experiment with PRenderman. He is a Unix (Irix) user and I am a Mac user. Did the vt100 emulation (terminal?) only exist with Nextstep on the Next hardware or did it port over to the PC world? What is Daydream and did this also make the port to the PC? -- ______________________________________________________________________________ __ Kevin M. Page Animator A T A R I page@agames.com GAMES (408) 434-3747 __ fax: (408) 434 3910 "3-D tv, 3-D tv, 3-D . . . . T V !!! " -Elvira ______________________________________________________________________________
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From: Hans Becker <hans.becker@mailbox.postnet.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What to do with a NextStation? Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 14:08:27 +0200 Organization: No Corporation Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32297CBB.4E13@mailbox.postnet.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Hans Becker, Sweden Email: hans.becker@mailbox.postnet.se
From: khader@katie.vnet.net (R. D. Khader) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: Installing NS3.3 on Intel? Date: 1 Sep 1996 16:13:55 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. - Charlotte, NC. (704) 374-0779 Message-ID: <50cco3$kfs@ralph.vnet.net> Hi there, I am trying to install NS3.3 on an Intel TRICAD machine, I have 2GB partioned into 4 segments. and a Sony CD, all controlled by a scsi driver. The machine was configured by our PC-Admin, to run both NT/dos windows. I would like to use on of the disks for NS. The Installation disks loads device drivers that can't find the CD to contiue the load. I searched for SONY/CDU55 in the NextAnswers and it looks like its there and there is a support for it, but the driver is on the CD, So: 1) How can I get the installation to load the correct driver that can read the CD to continue the installation ! 2) If I need to load the CD driver on a floppy, which I understand it has to be unix/NS formatted disk, How Can I load that driver on an additional floppy If I cant read them further write to them from NT/Windows? Is there an other way to do that? or is there a complete floppy set of all the drivers available from Next? Any help or direction will be very appreciated. Thanks, khader@vnet.net
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: datebook/planner SW Date: 29 Aug 1996 11:18:30 GMT Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd. Message-ID: <503ua6$ejm@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <4vsith$bpq@cgl.ucsf.edu> <4vt3d0$4ev@usenet.rpi.edu> Cc: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu In <4vt3d0$4ev@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn wrote: > botka@cgl.ucsf.edu (Cristopher Botka) wrote: > > Does anyone know a good datebook/daily planner app out there? > > Preferrably ported to HPPA. I have seen Cassandra, but have not > > been able to find a newer version than 1.5.2, which is a bit old. > > I should also note that there are some commercial apps available > for doing this kind of thing. At the moment I'm tired enough > that I can't think of their names, but it is likely that they > have more features and more attention than Cassandra has had > lately... You should look at Pencil Me In, from Sarrus Software. It is much better than Windows calendar software, and was developed for NeXTSTEP. Start with http://www.sarrus.com. I believe that there is another commercial program from a German company called Dater, but I don't know the details. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Evolution Date: 1 Sep 1996 15:10:47 GMT Organization: Individual - France Message-ID: <50c91n$16v@precipice.fdn.fr> [crosspost advocacy and misc] Hi, all of you... Apparently, the NS plane will never arrive to Mecca. It seems to be somewhere in the middle of the travel (may be cyprus, a typical plan in stopped plane history :-). Since OpenStep for Mach will still exist for an undetermined time and the kernel is frozen, one day you'll have to switch (even if some still work with NS2.1). Personnally, I think I'd buy Slowlaris (when available on dual PPC), I would also consider NT/OS on Dual PC (but it is less attractive for a user point of view : no WorkSpace and so on...). Anyway, I'd like to know, from a user point of view, what do you plan for the future. So I'm making a survey. They question is what's NeXT (after NeXTSTEP) for you from a user point of view (not a dev. one) : OS/SUN, OS/NT, OS/DEC (dead ?), keeping NS (even if no longer maintained, which version ?) as long as possible, abandonning OS for another system, GNUSTEP (working on it) and so on (open question)... Same question for you who write shareware and/or no MMCA apps. Mail me and I'll summarize. I'd would like to have as many answer as possible (that is not only from USA). If someone of each country could translate this post and post it in its own national group and then summarize me (if so tell me please) so to have the larger feeling of the next community (for french user, I'll do the job). PS : is there a moon.comp.sys.next :-) ? Thanks for your attention. Hugues. PPS : the more answer I'll receive, the better it will be, for the french telephone company too :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------- hugues@precipice.fdn.fr - France (small NeXTMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: jstella@okeefe.com (Seraphim J. Stella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Lighthouse apps on OpenStep - A definitive answer! Date: 2 Sep 1996 03:00:06 GMT Organization: digitalNation Message-ID: <50dijm$evj@news2.dn.net> References: <5054bi$b22@nntp1.best.com> lynne@lighthouse.com (Lynne Fitzpatrick Angeloro) wrote: >PLEASE, if you hear something "adverse" about any Lighthouse product or >policy, feel free to just ask me or anyone at info@lighthouse.com, we'll >tell you what we can! > >Regards, >Lynne. Thanks much. I talked to you via email and shortly thereafter posted what you told me up onto the net. Hope I didn't cause you the thousands of emails that you mentioned. I would still like to find out who at Lighthouse told me that you were abandoning Mach though... Josh Stella Director of Programming O'Keefe Marketing
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Evolution Date: 1 Sep 1996 23:59:21 -0400 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <50dm2p$gh1@news.duke.edu> On Sun, 1 Sep 96, hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) wrote: > Anyway, I'd like to know, from a user point of view, what do you > plan for the future. So I'm making a survey. > > They question is what's NeXT (after NeXTSTEP) for you from a userpoint of > view (not a dev. one) : OS/SUN, OS/NT, OS/DEC (dead ?),keeping NS (even if no > longer maintained, which version ?) as long aspossible, abandonning OS for > another system, GNUSTEP (working on it)and so on (open question)... Thank you very much for your survey. I have very much wanted to communicate my position on all this. I use NEXTSTEP because it is unparalleled in the productivity it gives me to do my scientific research. The reason it is unparalleled is: 1) A total user environment TeX, LaTeX, TeXmenu, Mathematica, OpenWrite, NeXTMail, OmniWeb, Web Server, ftp server, telnet, Librarian, Terminal, Edit, ImageViewer, Webster 2) A total developer environment I write my own apps for my research, and use the fabulous object oriented approach of NEXTSTEP, and in particular the: Appkit, 3Dkit, Soundkit, WebObjects Enterprise, DOkit 3) Complete integration between components of the environment For example, here is a typical sequence: -- I generate data with my own App, -- import it into Mathematica, graph it, -- copy the graph into Draw.app to add labels, etc, -- grab a graphic off the Web with OmniWeb and add it to the figure, -- use Draw.app to save it as an EPS file, -- import it into my LaTeX manuscript, -- check my spelling and usage with Webster or the Spell service, -- print out or NeXTMail the manuscript off to be published, -- convert it to JPEG using ImageViewer and add it to my Web site on my NEXTSTEP system. Now, OpenStep 4.0 for Mach and OpenStep Solaris are lacking on numerous of these points when compared to NEXTSTEP3.3. OSM4.0 lacks the 3D kit, and TeX, which are both critical for my work. And OpenStep Solaris (assuming it becomes available for Intel) is missing many pieces of the total environment, and I question how integrated will be their final product. So I can't even upgrade to OSM 4.0 because the total user environment is missing some big pieces. Therefore, I am staying with NS 3.3 until an alternative comes into being that is as good on the above points. My real wish and insanely great hope is that NeXT will do so well from sales of WebObjects and OpenStep, that Steve Jobs's ambitions will return to their visionary levels, and NeXT will have the resources to pursue them, and Jobs will want to restore and ADVANCE the total environment that is for me the defining advantage of NEXTSTEP. NeXT was ingenious at taking pre-existing software components like Unix, Mach, PostScript, Objective-C, the Internet, and combining them into a fabulous total environment. Multi-architecture binaries was also pure brilliance, again along the lines of integrating different hardware platforms. Now, with OpenStep and Web Objects, they are integrating different operating systems, databases, and hardware. The really sad part is that Jobs is ceding territory -- the user environment -- in order to gain the other territory because of NeXT's resource limitations. But I believe there is a market beyond simply me for the total integrated invironment that NEXTSTEP is, and hope that NeXT can regain the ambition and resources to advance again in this direction. ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <NeXTMail and MIME: altenber@pueo.mhpcc.edu> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: lionel@cyberlab.ch (Lionel Tinguely) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CR-R on OPENSTEP Date: 2 Sep 1996 23:51:04 GMT Organization: SWITCH, Swiss Academic & Research Network Message-ID: <50frt8$5gn@scsing.switch.ch> Hi ! Is it possible to uns a CD-R under OPENSTEP mach ? What software should I use ? Thanks LiONEL -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CYBERLaB NeTWORK<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< lionel@cyberlab.ch (MiME & NeXTmail WELCOME !!) Tel: +41 (0)21 623.66.10 http://www.cyberlab.ch Fax: +41 (0)21 626.40.00 Ask for or my PGP public key ------------------------------------------------------- The use of COBOL cripples the mind; its teaching should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence E.W. Dijkstra Teaching C++ should be sentenced to life imprisonment Me
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Access to a cd-rom..help Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 04:20:40 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <50gbq3$pes@pbinews.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <502o0a$q70@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> <Dx0JB2.9A@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote: >I consider upgrading a NS 1.0a system a sacrilege :-p >They ought to sit under a class box with a photograph of Steve Jobs (and >probably other NeXT paraphernalia) next to it... >Serious! Oh, keep 1.0 around on an optical disk, by all means. Then you can boot it up and amuse (former) friends and new employees with hoary old tales of the 'good old days'. (Some days I'm afraid I'm gonna get stuck in that glass display case.) I'd note, though, that Release 2.1 cut login and app launch times in half compared to 1.0a on 8 Mb 68030 boxes. The 3.x releases weren't quite as snappy, mostly due to lots of new features consuming resources (like that built-in SCSI CD support Arnold Creten needs). Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Asking a favor Date: 3 Sep 1996 02:40:21 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <50g5ql$11g@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <01bb9798$69b121e0$331543a4@lullaby> "Duncan Idaho" <everblue@ucla.edu> wrote: > I'm looking to utilize the Recycler animation in NeXTSTEP in a > Windoze app I'm currently working on. Unfortunately I sold my > copy a while back so I have to get the bitmaps from someone else. "Utilize", as in "copy" and "use without permission"? My guess is that you'll be treading on some copyright issues that you should not be treading on. What makes you think you have the right to use those images for some application you're writing? --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Windows NT Intranet Solutions Show Report. Date: 3 Sep 1996 03:05:13 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <50g799$11g@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <9608292100.AA01108@nebula.cdrom.com> Eric Tremblay <eric@cdrom.com> wrote: > > NeXT Booth: > It's a BIG and very nice booth. They were demoing the usual Dodge > Virtual Showroom and also the OAG plane ticket reservation web > page etc. The fun part was at the end they made a MINI demo of > "Tsunami". That was really interesting. It's a fancy drag and > drop html editor plus it looks like Interface Builder except it's > made for WebObjects. Really cool. I think this is going to blow > the competition away. > > So, it looks pretty positive on the WebObjects stuff. Hopefully > that will bring in more people to OpenStep on MACH, Solaris and > yes, if you really want it Windows NT. Thanks for the report Eric. I wish NeXT well with WebObjects, although it doesn't do much for me. Maybe it will help with OpenStep sales. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Q: IBM DORS hard disc and BLACK Hardware Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 3 Sep 1996 13:14:33 GMT Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland Message-ID: <50havp$epd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <DwyM3M.M8@oic.de> Juergen Moellenhoff (jurgen@oic.de) wrote: > how can I use an IBM DORS (2GB) hard disc with black Hardware? I can > remember that the hard disc needs modifications, but I can't remember > what it was. Never done it myself (I was too chicken the disk wouldn't work, so I went for the Quantum Fireball instead). I've heard however it *must* be jumpered to asynchronous SCSI mode, which is easy if you've managed to get hold of the docs. I was told the jumper settings can be found from IBM's Web site. Since you post from a German domain: Ask in de.comp.sys.next. I think the DORS was discussed there some weeks ago. Hope this helps, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Access to a cd-rom..help Date: 3 Sep 1996 13:21:33 GMT Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland Message-ID: <50hbct$epd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <502o0a$q70@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> <Dx0JB2.9A@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki (Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org) wrote: > In article <502o0a$q70@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike > Paquette) writes: > I consider upgrading a NS 1.0a system a sacrilege :-p > They ought to sit under a class box with a photograph of Steve Jobs (and > probably other NeXT paraphernalia) next to it... I second that!! By the way, I have a photograph of the original cube that Tim Berners-Lee used to develop the worlds first Web browser and server on. Anybody interested? Or was anybody else at WWW5 and made a better photograph (mine is a low res jpg as produced by one of these stillcams)? Chris -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Connection Help Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960903100151.5953A-100000@charisma> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 10:05:28 -0400 References: <507bjk$c87@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> To: Majid Ftouhi <ftouhi@IRO.UMontreal.CA> In-Reply-To: <507bjk$c87@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 30 Aug 1996, Majid Ftouhi wrote: > Hi there : > i'm a new NextStep intel user. I have some problem with my connection at > home. > i get these messages > > Aug 30 14:16:18 tiznit netmsgserver[22]: network_init > Aug 30 14:16:18 tiznit netmsgserver[22]: Cannot get the socket broadcast > address for interface ppp0: m > Aug 30 14:16:18 tiznit netmsgserver[22]: Warning: could not find a useful > broadcast address, using 255.255.255.255 > > and my connection some time is lost after different periode. Some time after > 10min, 30min. 1hour. It might be that your computer thinks it is hooked up to a network. Run HostManager.app and make sure things are "local" Don't know exactly what it is, but that's a good guess... > I can't use the ftp clearly because i lose the connection before i get all > thing loaded. Well, if you really need to ftp something, use: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/wide-area-info/ncftp-2.3.0.NIHS.tar.gz or ftp://next-ftp.peak..org/pub/next/submissions/Yftp.0.564.NIHS.bs.tar.gz both of which can do "continue" ftp jobs, ie: if the connection dies you can restart it at the point where you were cut off. TjL -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Email Auto-Responder: for PGP key, use SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey for NeXT info, use SUBJECT: send-ascii info Also, see: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next LOOKING FOR NS 3.3 (m68k) User/Dev (cheap ;-)
From: Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Access to a cd-rom..help Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 04:44:50 GMT Organization: EUnet Belgium, Leuven, Belgium Message-ID: <50hv2e$fot@news1.Belgium.EU.net> References: <502o0a$q70@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> <Dx0JB2.9A@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote: >In article <502o0a$q70@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike >Paquette) writes: >> Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten) wrote: >> >> >I have a NeXT 68030 with a hd and od and recently a Applecd Sc plus. >> >I have no floppy drive and the os is 1.0a... >> >I cannot figure out how to access the cd-rom. >> >Please help j >I consider upgrading a NS 1.0a system a sacrilege :-p >They ought to sit under a class box with a photograph of Steve Jobs (and >probably other NeXT paraphernalia) next to it... >Serious! >-- >Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Yes, yes, prob. you are correct ! I am collecting all sort of old computers - not MS-dos... when I received a NeXT, my reaction was to find a update for a fine machine, it is a nightmare, where in Belgium, Germany or France can I have nextstep 3.. on OD?
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CR-R on OPENSTEP Date: 3 Sep 1996 20:58:20 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <50i65c$qna@news.digifix.com> References: <50frt8$5gn@scsing.switch.ch> In-Reply-To: <50frt8$5gn@scsing.switch.ch> On 09/02/96, Lionel Tinguely wrote: >Hi ! > >Is it possible to uns a CD-R under OPENSTEP mach ? >What software should I use ? > I've had success with the recently uploaded mkisofs on next-ftp.peak.org.. Although that was under 3.3 I doubt anything significant there would prevent it from running under 4.0 Of course you can't write to the CD-R from NEXTSTEP, I've been doing that from a Windows machine (move my iso image over and write it out) Stupid DAT drives, at least CD's are more stable! -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: "Duncan Idaho" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Asking a favor Date: 4 Sep 1996 03:01:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bb99ca$41ed87f0$871443a4@lullaby> References: <01bb9798$69b121e0$331543a4@lullaby> <50g5ql$11g@usenet.rpi.edu> Actually, it's for personal use.
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: CR-R on OPENSTEP Date: 4 Sep 1996 09:03:23 GMT Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland Message-ID: <50jgkr$d8v@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <50frt8$5gn@scsing.switch.ch> <50i65c$qna@news.digifix.com> Scott Anguish (sanguish@digifix.com) wrote: > I've had success with the recently uploaded mkisofs on > next-ftp.peak.org.. Although that was under 3.3 I doubt anything > significant there would prevent it from running under 4.0 > Of course you can't write to the CD-R from NEXTSTEP, I've been > doing that from a Windows machine (move my iso image over and write it > out) I second that. FYI, lots of useful info on the subject can be found from http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Technology/CD-R/FAQ.html. > Stupid DAT drives, at least CD's are more stable! Indeed. What use is a backup if you cannot read the data when you need it. Darn DAT drives! I strongly recommend the Fujitsu 2512/A and 2513/A magneto-optical drives. They are inexpensive (the disks, which are the size of 3.5" floppy disks and about as thick as two floppies, cost around $8 here in Germany, and can hold 230Megs. The 2513 drive can store 650 MB with a disk of the same form factor, BTW), and _very_ reliable. I've been using the drive for two years now, and am very satisfied. Drive is $450 round these parts. Aaaaand, the disks look cool. ;-) They work right out of the box, both on black and white hardware. Chris (standard disclaimer applies.. I have no other connction with Fujitsu other then being a satisfied customer) -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: "Einar R. Haugnes" <einar@ii.uib.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: NeXT performance Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 14:01:45 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Message-ID: <322D6FA8.41C6@ii.uib.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: einar@ii.uib.no I'm considering to buy a NeXT as a cheap workstation for writing and programming. Therefore, I would like some information on the performance of different NeXT computers (25/33 MHz, w/wo NextDimension etc.) seen from a 1996 viewpoint. In particular, how is the performance of the GUI (speed, "smoothness", blood pressure-wise)? How well suited is the NeXT for - Light DTP / Heavy word processing (software quality, speed) - Program development, particularly image processing and 3d graphics (graphics capabilities, number crunching capabilities and raw performance (in FLOPS, MIPS, related to intel boxes, etc.), quality of programming environment, availability of standard libraries) Also, how good is software support for black hardware today (availability, quality and, if applicable, cost of commercial and shareware software) ? I know - this is a lot of questions. I'm just a curious guy. Enlighten me. Thanks, Einar R Haugnes
From: "Einar R. Haugnes" <einar@ii.uib.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: NeXT performance Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 14:08:51 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Message-ID: <322D7153.167E@ii.uib.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: einar@ii.uib.no I'm thinking about buying a NeXT as a cheap workstation for writing and programming. Therefore, I would like some information on the performance of different NeXT computers (25/33 MHz, w/wo NextDimension etc.) seen from a 1996 viewpoint. In particular, how is the performance of the GUI (speed, "smoothness", blood pressure-wise)? How well suited is the NeXT for - Light DTP / Heavy word processing (software quality, speed) - Program development, particularly image processing and 3d graphics (graphics capabilities, number crunching capabilities and raw performance (in FLOPS, MIPS, related to intel boxes, etc.), quality of programming environment, availability of standard libraries) Also, how good is software support for black hardware today (availability, quality and, if applicable, cost of commercial and shareware software) ? I know - this is a lot of questions. I'm just a curious guy. Enlighten me. Thanks, Einar R Haugnes
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q: NeXT performance Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:23:26 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <Dx7MJ3.FqM@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <322D6FA8.41C6@ii.uib.no> In article <322D6FA8.41C6@ii.uib.no> "Einar R. Haugnes" <einar@ii.uib.no> writes: > I'm considering to buy a NeXT as a cheap workstation for writing and > programming. Therefore, I would like some information on the > performance of different NeXT computers (25/33 MHz, w/wo NextDimension > etc.) seen from a 1996 viewpoint. > > In particular, how is the performance of the GUI (speed, "smoothness", > blood pressure-wise)? As good as the average NS Intel box. Nicer than anything non-NS. > How well suited is the NeXT for > - Light DTP / Heavy word processing > (software quality, speed) Depends what software you want. I like TeX (the only real option for HEAVY wp), so I'm very happy. > - Program development, particularly > image processing and 3d graphics > (graphics capabilities, number crunching capabilities > and raw performance (in FLOPS, MIPS, related to intel boxes, Performance is a little slow for 3d stuff. (25MHz -> 15Mips, 33MHz->25Mips). I good Intel box can easily give >100Mips. However this is only noticable for compute intensive stuff (image processing, and 3D graphics are prehaps the only areas I would NOT recomend black hardware for). Interactive performance on the old machines is VERY good. > etc.), quality of programming environment, > availability of standard libraries) Still the best! > Also, how good is software support for black hardware today > (availability, quality and, if applicable, cost of commercial and > shareware software) ? As good as for NS Intel. The cross compiler technologyy means that virtuatlly all releases are for all NS platforms. Quality is generally excellent. Quantity is obviosuly less than on other platforms, but if you find the software you want (and generally you will), then thats not an issue. Price wise,, there are some excellent bargains out there - particularly of your an academic. Basically the machines have aged very gracefully. I have a P120 at work, and a black (25MHz) machine at home. While I generally hit the work machine a lot harder, I rarely feel that the home machine is unacceptably slow. I'm generally happier using the Black machine. It's nicer to use, and far less hassle (and MUCH cheaper!). $an
From: "Jonathan W. Hendry" <steeldrv@one.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Terminal.app work-alike for WIndows? Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 13:15:47 -0400 Organization: Steel Driving Software, Inc. Message-ID: <322DB943.2F34@one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone found a Windows terminal/telnet app that's as good as Terminal.app? Thanks, Jon
From: wolfgang@wi.WHU-Koblenz.de (Wolfgang Roeckelein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,de.comp.sys.next,comp.unix.solaris,alt.sys.sun,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.managers,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: problem with nis/nis+ with NeXTstep 3.3/Solaris 2.5.1 Date: 5 Sep 1996 08:14:00 GMT Organization: University of Regensburg, Germany Distribution: inet Message-ID: <50m248$i4q@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> Hi, I am having a severe problem with my nis/nis+ setup: Server: Solaris 2.5.1, nis+ in nis compatability mode client: NeXTstep 3.3, nis and netinfo When I login to nextstep with a nis account, the group gets not set, and I wind up in wheel. On the Solaris console the following error is printed: Sep 3 22:50:58 rrws27 nisd[92]: WARNING: db_query::db_query: bad index Sep 3 22:50:58 rrws27 nisd[92]: No table /var/nis/data/group.org_dir for object group.org_dir.lehner.wiwi.uni-regensburg.de., status = 4 Note that: logins on the Solaris machine are ok, ypcat passwd and ypcat group are ok, I can chgrp a file to the offending group and it shows correctly with ls -lg. The + line in /etc/passwd and /etc/group on the NeXT side is there. On the Solaris side: # showrev -p Patch: 103663-01 Obsoletes: Packages: SUNWcsu, SUNWhea Patch: 103594-03 Obsoletes: , Requires:, 103663-01 Packages: SUNWcsu Patch: 103630-01 Obsoletes: Packages: SUNWcsu, SUNWcsr Patch: 103680-01 Obsoletes: , Requires:, 103663-01 Packages: SUNWcsu Patch: 103683-01 Obsoletes: , Requires:, 103663-01 Packages: SUNWcsu Patch: 103817-01 Obsoletes: Packages: SUNWcsu Patch: 103582-01 Obsoletes: Packages: SUNWcsr Patch: 103743-01 Obsoletes: , Requires:, 103663-01 Packages: SUNWfns Patch: 103686-01 Obsoletes: , Requires:, 103663-01 Packages: SUNWnisu On the NEXTstep side: 3.3 patch 1 What is causing this? Can anybody help me? Thank you very much in advance, Wolfgang --- Dipl.-Wirtsch.Inf. Voice: +49 941 943 3205 Wolfgang Roeckelein Fax: +49 941 943 4986 Uni Regensburg E-Mail: roeckelein@wi.whu-koblenz.de Universitaetsstr. 31 Wolfgang.Roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de D-93053 Regensburg (MIME and NeXTmail ok) Germany WWW: http://www.whu-koblenz.de/~wolfgang/ GCM/B d-- s: a- C++ US+++$ UX+++ P+ L E? W++ N++ w-- O-(++) M+ !V PS++ PE Y+ PGP(++) t+ 5? X? R+ tv b++ DI D++ G e+++>++++ h+ r++>% y? (Geek Code V3.x)
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Terminal.app work-alike for WIndows? Date: 5 Sep 1996 02:47:41 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <50lf0d$2dk@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <322DB943.2F34@one.net> "Jonathan W. Hendry" <steeldrv@one.net> wrote: > Has anyone found a Windows terminal/telnet app > that's as good as Terminal.app? I wonder if Scott Hess is working on an openstep-ified version of Stuart... --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu (bryce) Subject: Greek on NeXT? Message-ID: <Dx90EF.5t8@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:20:38 GMT Does anyone know of a good Greek word processing mechanism for NeXT? I am used to using the sgreek font in windows but want to do my work on the NeXT and System is seriously lacking in the neccessary characters to do any serious Greek ^_^ -- ()-() Bryce B. Sady (o o) http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/bbsady /\o/\ Classical Studies, the College, the University of Chicago
From: "Einar R. Haugnes" <einar@ii.uib.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 3D gfx on NeXT Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 15:40:16 +0200 Organization: University of Bergen, Norway Message-ID: <322D86C0.41C6@ii.uib.no> References: <322D6FA8.41C6@ii.uib.no> <Dx7MJ3.FqM@cam-ani.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ian Stephenson wrote: > In article <322D6FA8.41C6@ii.uib.no> "Einar R. Haugnes" > <einar@ii.uib.no> writes: > > I'm considering to buy a NeXT as a cheap workstation for writing and > > programming. Therefore, I would like some information on the > > performance of different NeXT computers (25/33 MHz, w/wo NextDimension > > etc.) seen from a 1996 viewpoint. *snip* > > How well suited is the NeXT for *snip* > > - Program development, particularly > > image processing and 3d graphics > > (graphics capabilities, number crunching capabilities > > and raw performance (in FLOPS, MIPS, related to intel boxes, > Performance is a little slow for 3d stuff. (25MHz -> 15Mips, > 33MHz->25Mips). I good Intel box can easily give >100Mips. However this > is only noticable for compute intensive stuff (image processing, and 3D > graphics are prehaps the only areas I would NOT recomend black hardware > for). Interactive performance on the old machines is VERY good. What about the boxes equipped with the i860 (?) chip? Don't they deliver hardware polygon rendering, or at least better graphics performance? -Einar Rune
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Greek on NeXT? Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:51:09 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960905164610.26203A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <Dx90EF.5t8@midway.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Dx90EF.5t8@midway.uchicago.edu> On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, bryce wrote: > Does anyone know of a good Greek word processing mechanism for NeXT? I am > used to using the sgreek font in windows but want to do my work on the > NeXT and System is seriously lacking in the neccessary characters to do > any serious Greek ^_^ > The sgreek and other greek'ish fonts are available on the archive sites. Take a look at e.g. ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Fonts/ Greetings, Boerny.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Greek on NeXT? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960905110712.19820A-100000@charisma> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:08:28 -0400 References: <Dx90EF.5t8@midway.uchicago.edu> To: bryce <bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <Dx90EF.5t8@midway.uchicago.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There aren't any. If you hear otherwise, I'd love to know. I've got 2 more years of having to do Greek, and I dislike the thought of having to hack a keymapping, and then do accents and breathing marks by hand (ugh). TjL -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Email Auto-Responder: for PGP key, use SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey for NeXT info, use SUBJECT: send-ascii info Also, see: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next LOOKING FOR NS 3.3 (m68k) User/Dev (cheap ;-) On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, bryce wrote: > Does anyone know of a good Greek word processing mechanism for NeXT? I am > used to using the sgreek font in windows but want to do my work on the > NeXT and System is seriously lacking in the neccessary characters to do > any serious Greek ^_^ > > > > -- > > ()-() Bryce B. Sady > (o o) http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/bbsady > /\o/\ Classical Studies, the College, the University of Chicago > > > >
From: shess@tundra.winternet.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Terminal.app work-alike for WIndows? Date: 05 Sep 1996 10:35:53 -0500 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@tundra.winternet.com Message-ID: <acybip9dpi.fsf@tundra.winternet.com> References: <322DB943.2F34@one.net> <50lf0d$2dk@usenet.rpi.edu> In-reply-to: Garance A Drosehn's message of 5 Sep 1996 02:47:41 GMT In article <50lf0d$2dk@usenet.rpi.edu>, Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: >"Jonathan W. Hendry" <steeldrv@one.net> wrote: >> Has anyone found a Windows terminal/telnet app that's as good as >> Terminal.app? > >I wonder if Scott Hess is working on an openstep-ified version of >Stuart... Unfortunately, the gains from using OpenStep are outweighed by the problems with NT/win32. The biggest concern for porting Stuart isn't the application display side of things - in fact, I'm confident that I can rewrite that as needed. The biggest concern is the interface between Stuart and the shell program. NT doesn't have ptys! And so far as I can tell, it really has no good alternative. The console interface is less than well documented. If that portion was solved, then the rest would probably be reasonable to get going, perhaps using gnu-win32 and the GNU Objective-C runtime. That said, I currently have no specific plans in this area. I'm waiting until I get my new Pentium (next month or so), and also until I find compelling documentation on how these things works. Perhaps when the port of "expect" to NT is in place that'll be enough information ... [I could _probably_ do a win32 telnet-only client, is there a lot of interest in that?] Later, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> (WWW to "http://www.winternet.com/~shess/") Work: 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <I want to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Greek on NeXT? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960905114909.19820H-100000@charisma> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:49:51 -0400 References: <Dx90EF.5t8@midway.uchicago.edu> <Pine.HPP.3.95.960905164610.26203A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> To: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960905164610.26203A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Oops... I did not know that, I withdraw my previous ignorant answer doubting their existence ;-) On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Bernhard Scholz wrote: > On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, bryce wrote: > > > Does anyone know of a good Greek word processing mechanism for NeXT? I am > > used to using the sgreek font in windows but want to do my work on the > > NeXT and System is seriously lacking in the neccessary characters to do > > any serious Greek ^_^ > > > The sgreek and other greek'ish fonts are available on the archive sites. > Take a look at e.g. ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Fonts/ > > Greetings, > > Boerny. > > > > >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Q: NeXT performance Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dx8M0B.528@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 02:09:47 GMT References: <322D6FA8.41C6@ii.uib.no> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <322D6FA8.41C6@ii.uib.no>, Einar R. Haugnes <einar@ii.uib.no> wrote: >I'm considering to buy a NeXT as a cheap workstation for writing and >programming. Therefore, I would like some information on the >performance of different NeXT computers (25/33 MHz, w/wo NextDimension >etc.) seen from a 1996 viewpoint. > Well, they're not fast machines. However... The following is based on my experience with a 25MHz cube with 16MB RAM. I've used it with/without a Dimension and the Dimension doesn't really slow it down that much as long as you have lots of RAM in it. >In particular, how is the performance of the GUI (speed, "smoothness", >blood pressure-wise)? Very nice. Smooth, snappy, and groovy. >How well suited is the NeXT for > - Light DTP / Heavy word processing > (software quality, speed) I haven't done much DTP stuff, so I can't comment on that. I do my "word processing" stuff with LaTeX, which works very well. Not as quick to compile as on our Sparc 20, but plenty fast for me. I take a walk to the water fountain when Metafont goes to work, though. > - Program development, particularly > image processing and 3d graphics > (graphics capabilities, number crunching capabilities > and raw performance (in FLOPS, MIPS, related to intel boxes, >etc.), quality of programming environment, > availability of standard libraries) > MIPS? About 15. MFLOPS, I'm not sure. NeXTSTEP's 3D support (up to and including 3.3, anyway) is fairly nice, allowing you to use the "3D Kit" to manipulate objects or dive straight into RenderMan. The results won't look that nice on a mono machine, though. :-) I haven't used the 3D stuff much, so that's about all I have to say on that topic. The programming environment is nice, prodiving good integration of editor, compiler, and so on. The GUI builder is, of course, fantastic. I know someone like Crispin is going to come and shoot that all over, but such is life. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "standard libraries". If you have the source for it, you can likely compile it. >Also, how good is software support for black hardware today >(availability, quality and, if applicable, cost of commercial and >shareware software) ? > There's lots of software around, and still quite a bit of good commercial stuff (from, eg., Lighthouse and Stone Design.) Pretty much anything that's not hardware-specific in some way, like a driver, is released for all four hardware architectures. >I know - this is a lot of questions. I'm just a curious guy. :-) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Jon Day <jonday@wpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Dual Boot Win95 & NeXT Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:56:21 -0400 Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960905135159.28073A-100000@wpi.WPI.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Folks: I have searched the FAQS and related for a resolution to this but no luck. Problem: I just purchased the Academic version of neXT and installed it perfectly on my Intel box. All was well until I I installed windows 95. It knocked out my boot prompt for NeXT. I spent the last day looking at NeXT answers, www.stepwise.com, and others to resolve this before I give up and call tech support. I could have sworn that I read something about this combination before but I can't seem to locate the fix info. Please helpto point me to where I can resolve this Bill Gates headache. Any help is greatly appreciated. Please forward all replies to jonday@wpi.edu. Regards, Jonathan P. Day Worcester Polytechnic Institute Electrical & Computer Engineering WWW: http://www.wpi.edu/~jonday/
From: Ralph Paul <paul@tornado.aem.umn.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Terminal.app work-alike for WIndows? Date: 05 Sep 1996 13:19:25 -0500 Organization: University of Minnesota Message-ID: <yuksp8wsu36.fsf@tornado.aem.umn.edu> References: <322DB943.2F34@one.net> <50lf0d$2dk@usenet.rpi.edu> <acybip9dpi.fsf@tundra.winternet.com> shess@tundra.winternet.com (Scott Hess) writes: [ snip ] > The biggest concern is the interface between Stuart and the shell > program. NT doesn't have ptys! And so far as I can tell, it really > has no good alternative. The console interface is less than well > documented. If that portion was solved, then the rest would probably > be reasonable to get going, perhaps using gnu-win32 and the GNU > Objective-C runtime. The same problem is also encountered under OS/2. For the OS/2 port of XFree86 a special device driver was written for it. I don't know if you want to go thru all this trouble ? CU, Ralph Paul paul@aem.umn.edu or ralph@ifr.luftahrt.uni-stuttgart.de
From: castor@leland.Stanford.EDU (Andrew Evans Einaudi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT MIDI Interface Date: 5 Sep 1996 12:05:45 -0700 Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Message-ID: <50n8a9$pte@solaria12.Stanford.EDU> Just bought a beautiful 68040 cube running 3.0. Now all I need is a MIDI inter- face that I can attach to my serial port. Does anyone out there know of one that is still made today that works with the NeXT? I know a company by the name of Quest Inc. that made an interface that worked beautifully - the box was called MIDILink - they don't make 'em anymore though. I'd be perfectly willing to buy one off any old NeXTstepper who wasn't using his or hers. Since this doesn't seem to be a topic of discussion these days, why don't we do this by email. Send responses to aeinaudi@ccrma.stanford.edu. Thank you. -Andrew
From: hsla@irene.mit.edu (LA, HOSEONG) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: No NeXTeX in OS4.0? Date: 5 Sep 1996 17:39 EST Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <5SEP199617392683@irene.mit.edu> References: <5037be$q5e@news.tamu.edu> <Dwx2px.9En@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.50 Does anybody know if I can download any recent NeXTTeX for Intel from somewhere? I've also heard that NeXTTeX2000 project is under way, does this mean NeXTTeX is now in the public domain? If so, where is the archive located? Please post the info if anybody knows. hs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs From: bbsady@midway.uchicago.edu (bryce) Subject: postscript font printing problem Message-ID: <DxA7GE.MAq@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:50:38 GMT i have a font (Sgreek) which edits just fine on my NeXT and shows up beautifully on my screen. to print it, i save it as a postscript file, and take it to a computer to be printed with lpr (it's a Sun, not a NeXT), and all the fonts show up fine except Sgreek which shows up as helvetica for the keystrokes i used in Sgreek. any ideas? bryce -- ()-() Bryce B. Sady (o o) http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/bbsady /\o/\ Classical Studies, the College, the University of Chicago
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT MIDI Interface Date: 5 Sep 1996 23:26:07 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <50nnif$ij6@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <50n8a9$pte@solaria12.Stanford.EDU> In-Reply-To: <50n8a9$pte@solaria12.Stanford.EDU> On 09/05/96, Andrew Evans Einaudi wrote: > Just bought a beautiful 68040 cube running 3.0. Now all I need is > a MIDI inter- face that I can attach to my serial port. Does anyone > out there know of one that is still made today that works with the > NeXT? I know a company by the name of Quest Inc. that made an > interface that worked beautifully - the box was called MIDILink - > they don't make 'em anymore though. I'd be perfectly willing to > buy one off any old NeXTstepper who wasn't using his or hers. > > Since this doesn't seem to be a topic of discussion these days, > why don't we do this by email. > A long time ago (1993) David Pickett of Indiana University School of Music designed a DIY Midi interface; I'm sending details of that via NeXTMail. I'm sure CCRMA must have support for this stuff, though? When I visited a couple of years ago it semed very well set up with NeXT h/w. Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: postscript font printing problem Date: 5 Sep 1996 23:31:31 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <50nnsj$ikp@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <DxA7GE.MAq@midway.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <DxA7GE.MAq@midway.uchicago.edu> On 09/06/96, bryce wrote: > i have a font (Sgreek) which edits just fine on my NeXT and shows up > beautifully on my screen. to print it, i save it as a postscript file, > and take it to a computer to be printed with lpr (it's a Sun, not a NeXT), > and all the fonts show up fine except Sgreek which shows up as helvetica > for the keystrokes i used in Sgreek. > > any ideas? > Are you saving the file "with fonts for chosen printer" (cf the pop-up menu in the Print/Save panel)? If not, and the computer you're printing to doesn't have the font, it won't print out properly. Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net (The Rev. James David Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to connect Powerbook 100 to Turbo NeXT? Date: 6 Sep 1996 02:18:06 GMT Organization: JLC-net, Milford NH Message-ID: <50o1ku$298@mozart.jlc.net> Hi All, I recently bought an old Mac Powerbook 100. It's a nifty little machine, if a bit slow. Problem is, it doesn't have a floppy drive. Is there a cheap or easy way to connect this machine to mine, say, to transfer files? Seriel ports maybe? If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Peace, James -- The Rev. James David Meacham First Unitarian Congregational Society of Wilton Center, NH e-mail:jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net 603-654-9518 (Church) 603-654-9590(Home) 603-654-2248(fax) Church Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/index.html Personal Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/jameshome.html
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dual Boot Win95 & NeXT Date: 6 Sep 1996 08:48:31 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <50oogv$5dm@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960905135159.28073A-100000@wpi.WPI.EDU> Jon Day <jonday@wpi.edu> wrote: > on my Intel box. All was well until I I installed windows 95. It knocked > out my boot prompt for NeXT. Boot Win95, start FDISK and set the NEXTSTEP partition "active". When you reboot, NEXTSTEP will start normally. Then login as root and enter in a terminal window disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rsd0a (Use /dev/rhd0a instead of /dev/rsd0a if you have an IDE disk, not a SCSI disk.) This will restore the NeXT boot sector. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 Mail: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (MIME/NeXT accepted) WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: rmitchel@cymitar.net (Mitch) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Please help on pricing a system! Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 02:09:38 -0600 Organization: Zippo Distribution: inet Message-ID: <rmitchel-0609960209380001@news1.cymitar.net> Hello. My name is Ryan Mitchell, and I'm talking to a guy who's interested in selling a NeXT Color Station for $2300. It comes with a 21" monitor (color), 24M RAM, Soundbox, mouse, keyboard, 1400dpi printer, and the system software on CD-ROM (although it doesn't have a CD ROM drive). Anyway, I'm wondering if someone could give me some pointers on whether they think that $2300 is a fair price. Comments? Suggestions? Please post here or, for a faster and better response from me, email to rmitchel@cs.trinity.edu. Thanks a lot for any help you can give! Mitch
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3D gfx on NeXT Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 22:18:21 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <50q82p$6tv@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <322D6FA8.41C6@ii.uib.no> <Dx7MJ3.FqM@cam-ani.co.uk> <322D86C0.41C6@ii.uib.no> "Einar R. Haugnes" <einar@ii.uib.no> wrote: >What about the boxes equipped with the i860 (?) chip? Don't they >deliver hardware polygon rendering, or at least better graphics >performance? That would be a NeXT Cube with the NeXTdimension board. The i860 is used to accelerate both PostScript and 3D drawing operations. (The following is culled from trade show presentations, papers, and articles published Way Back When...) Display PostScript and the NeXTdimension boardd The Display PostScript system can be (very broadly) broken into two pieces, the PostScript interpreter and the device. The interpreter processes the language, and passes marking, imaging, and (in the NeXT version) compositing directions to the device layer.. The device layer takes the high level marking, imaging, and compositing operations and (eventually) converts these to bitmap level operations. The Display PostScript system spends the majority of it's time down here. In the case of the NeXTdimension board, the device layer is implemented on the NeXTdimension board. Marking, imaging, and compositing operations are asynchronously transmitted to the NeXTdimension for processing while additional PostScript is interpreted on the 68K processor. A good degree of parallelism is achieved in normal operation. The NXPing() AppKit call is interpreted by the Display PostScript system as a request to synchronize the NeXTdimension, PostScript interpreter, and app, and will not return until PostScript rendering is complete on the NeXTdimension.. Quick Renderman and the NeXTdimension boardd Renderman uses a similar architecture. The 3DKit and RI C binding reside on the m68k (otherwise you couldn't link with them). Depending on the setup of the Renderman context, a RIB stream can be spooled to Photorealistic Renderman running on the host CPU (the m68K for black hardware), or to a Quick Renderman implementation loaded on demand into the Window Server. The Quick Renderman implementation in the Window Server may then, if the target window is on a NeXTdimension, forward the rendering operations to a Quick Renderman context running on the NeXTdimension board. The NeXTdimension board performs all rendering operations for windows displayed by the board. Everything from high level geometry tesselation on down to marking the pixels is done on the NeXTdimension.. Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: mark@sapphire (Mark Onyschuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Terminal.app work-alike for WIndows? Date: 7 Sep 1996 00:15:24 GMT Organization: Objective Systems Integrators Message-ID: <50qeqs$1sd@osi.osi.COM> References: <322DB943.2F34@one.net> > [Q: Terminal.app like app for Windows] Perhaps Scott Hess might be convinced to do a port of Stuart? Mark
From: hugues@precipice.fdn.fr (Hugues RICHARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Evolution - 2 Date: 6 Sep 1996 20:44:59 GMT Organization: Individual - France Message-ID: <50q2gb$4lh@precipice.fdn.fr> Hi, all of you... I previously posted about one week ago to launch a survey about what will you use if NS dies one day... I got a few answers (15...) mainly from north-america and germany plus a few others from Japan by a friend helping me. I think having a good survey of the NS market direction could be a strong signal to give the few 3rd party dev. remaining in the NS market, not only by saying "Yes I use it" but also by saying what you will use "AFTER", so these developper could adapt their product and know where will be the next market. The more answer I'll receive, the more representaive the survey will be. So please, could you tell me "what do you plan to use in the future if NeXTSTEP will no longer be supported" : OS/SUN, OS/NT, NS even if old, GNUSTEP, and so on (open question : even Win3.1 is accepted :-)... Thanks Hugues (waiting for your replies). -------------------------------------------------------------------- hugues@precipice.fdn.fr - France (small NeXTMail OK) ------------ NS3.2 ------------ NS3.0J ------------ :-) ------------
From: john@lighthouse.com (John Wetherill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.emacs Subject: emacs under OpenStep Date: 7 Sep 1996 02:06:15 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <50qlan$eo6@nntp1.best.com> Has anyone had any luck with emacs-19.3? under OpenStep? After some fiddling I managed to get 19.34 to compile, but running it results in a "Fatal error (11).Segmentation fault". It loads completely, reads my .emacs file, then dies. Same thing with "-q". And the same occurs for an emacs binary compiled under NEXTSTEP 3.3 and run under OpenStep. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. John Wetherill john@lighthouse.com
From: tolsen@halfdome.engr.ucdavis.edu (Thomas Olsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: sendmail Date: 7 Sep 1996 02:29:32 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <50qmmc$bdm@mark.ucdavis.edu> Summary: Sendmail 8.7.5 for stand alone NeXTstation Keywords: Sendmail PPP Hello everybody, A short time ago someone posted about a guide for setting up sendmail 8.7.5 on your NeXT, however I lost the URL. Actually, I was stupid enough to think that I wouldn't need it, so I deleted the file. Now, I realize the error of my ways and was hopeing that someone would be kind enough to post the URL again. -- Thank You, Thomas Olsen ,,,, /'^'\ ( o o ) -----oOOO--(_)--OOOo----- tolsen@engr.ucdavis.edu MAE Dept. UCDavis Davis CA. 95616 (916) 752-2261 .oooO ( ) Oooo. -------\ (----( )------ \_) ) / (_/
From: shess@parka.winternet.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Terminal.app work-alike for WIndows? Date: 06 Sep 1996 22:16:57 -0500 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@parka.winternet.com Message-ID: <acwwy7vwt2.fsf@parka.winternet.com> References: <322DB943.2F34@one.net> <50lf0d$2dk@usenet.rpi.edu> <acybip9dpi.fsf@tundra.winternet.com> In-reply-to: shess@tundra.winternet.com's message of 05 Sep 1996 10:35:53 -0500 In article <acybip9dpi.fsf@tundra.winternet.com>, shess@tundra.winternet.com (Scott Hess) writes: >[I could _probably_ do a win32 telnet-only client, is there a lot of >interest in that?] From the responses thus far to this statement, I _obviously_ wasn't clear enough! What I meant by this is that I could take quite a bit of Stuart as it currently exists, port it to run on Windows, replacing the current Pty interface with a Telnet protocol interface. While I'd certainly _rather_ be able to provide console windows (or whatever Windows calls them), consoles don't seem to be well documented on Windows - while telnet is telnet, whether it's running on Windows or not. Of course, if it could only do telnet, it wouldn't be all that useful, but it's a start. A baby step, as it were. [For those who don't know, Stuart is like NeXT's Terminal, with extra stuff hanging off the side. Sort of like someone took Terminal apart and added new dohickies to make certain things smoother or easier to accomplish, _mainly_ for people who live at a shell prompt. I really hope nobody lives at a Windows shell prompt ...] Later, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> (WWW to "http://www.winternet.com/~shess/") Work: 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <I want to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: sendmail Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960906231723.2820A-100000@charisma> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 23:25:43 -0400 References: <50qmmc$bdm@mark.ucdavis.edu> To: Thomas Olsen <tolsen@halfdome.engr.ucdavis.edu> In-Reply-To: <50qmmc$bdm@mark.ucdavis.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII http://brise.ere.umontreal.ca/~magnan/Sendmail/ It is linked at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ and http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next In case you lose it again ;-) It's definitely worth saving to the HD.... TjL On 7 Sep 1996, Thomas Olsen wrote: > Hello everybody, > > A short time ago someone posted about a guide for setting up > sendmail 8.7.5 on your NeXT, however I lost the URL. Actually, I was > stupid enough to think that I wouldn't need it, so I deleted the file. > Now, I realize the error of my ways and was hopeing that someone would be > kind enough to post the URL again. > > > -- > Thank You, > > Thomas Olsen > > ,,,, > /'^'\ > ( o o ) > -----oOOO--(_)--OOOo----- > > tolsen@engr.ucdavis.edu > > MAE Dept. UCDavis > Davis CA. 95616 > (916) 752-2261 > > .oooO > ( ) Oooo. > -------\ (----( )------ > \_) ) / > (_/ > > > >
From: "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 7 Sep 1996 04:17:07 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> I am currently recruiting beta testers for my home-brewn application IconDock. This nifty utility recreates in vivid details the awesome NeXTSTEP AppBar, right on your Windows desktop. In a way, it's the Windows counterpart of Afterstep for Linux, but it doesn't provide a whole new window manager. Still, the AppDock replica is so close to the original that it far surpasses the Wholf imitation in some areas (something tells me the people doing Afterstep have never really used NeXTSTEP): - You can slide the bar up and down if it gets in your way, just like in NeXTSTEP! - The clock. It's an *exact* replica of the original, fonts and all! - double-clicking on the logo and a file browser will pop up - each button will flash upon activation, like in NeXTSTEP! (except you get a more lively animated flash) - A yet-in-the-works recycler button that, once done, will act just like the Recycler button in NeXTSTEP - Extra-bonus: you can choose which textures you want to use for your buttons. Besides the original flat tone and metalic, you can also choose a very subtle marble texture. You need Win95 or NT 4.0, as well as visual basic run-time libraries to run this application. you can download the libraries at ftp://ftp.sausage.com/pub/hd32supp.exe. IconBar continues the NeXTSTEP tradition of using *only* 48x48 icons, smaller icons will be stretched to those dimensions and won't look very good. So in order to fully enjoy AppBar it would be good to have some high-res, high-color icons at hand. E-mail me if you are interested.
From: hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need Immediate Feedback on HD Purchase ! Date: 7 Sep 1996 13:46:10 GMT Organization: SSNet -- Public Internet Access in Delaware! Message-ID: <50rub2$8s4@news.ssnet.com> Could you please recommend some SCSI Hard Disk Drives that definately work with NeXT Blackware (in particular a NeXTstation TurboColor). Tomorrow (Sunday) a am going to a fair and I wan't to buy a drive. Appreciate any feedback Hassan
From: briggman@universe.digex.net (Dave Briggman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Date: 7 Sep 1996 16:36:11 GMT Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Message-ID: <50s89r$k8b@news4.digex.net> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> Millennium Warrior (everblue@ucla.edu) wrote: : : - You can slide the bar up and down if it gets in your way, just like in : NeXTSTEP! : : - The clock. It's an *exact* replica of the original, fonts and all! : : - double-clicking on the logo and a file browser will pop up : : - each button will flash upon activation, like in NeXTSTEP! (except you get : a more lively animated flash) : : - A yet-in-the-works recycler button that, once done, will act just like : the Recycler button in NeXTSTEP : Didn't someone come out with a broser imitation for the Mac that NeXT threatened with major legal action if the freeware wasn't yanked..(although I am afraid this might be the only way to keep the interface going) SIGH... Dave
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Terminal.app work-alike for WIndows? Date: 7 Sep 1996 17:15:26 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <50saje$mn5@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <322DB943.2F34@one.net> <50lf0d$2dk@usenet.rpi.edu> <acybip9dpi.fsf@tundra.winternet.com> <acwwy7vwt2.fsf@parka.winternet.com> shess@parka.winternet.com (Scott Hess) wrote: > [For those who don't know, Stuart is like NeXT's Terminal, with extra > stuff hanging off the side. Sort of like someone took Terminal apart > and added new dohickies to make certain things smoother or easier to > accomplish, _mainly_ for people who live at a shell prompt. I really > hope nobody lives at a Windows shell prompt ...] Amen!! DOS is the pits. Is this the best Microsoft could do for a command interpreter after all those years?? NT's Command application (it's Stuart/Terminal equivalent) is really stone-age stuff. But Cygnus is porting most of the GNU utilities to NT. The CygWin32 tools are available from www.cygnus.com, although the porting effort isn't yet complete and some of the utilities are a little rough. A company named MKS has offered UNIX utilities for DOS, Windows, and NT for years. So if one wanted to continue using a UNIX shell (e.g., bash from Cygnus and probably sh and csh from MKS) in Stuart under NT, it's possible. We're investigating this route as a means of moving our many Bourne shell scripts to NT instead of trying to port them to DOS batch files which would be a significant effort. Source for the CygWin32 utilities is available, so maybe this source contains an answer needed to make Stuart work as a console app under NT. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: emacs under OpenStep Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:07:46 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kmAOjW600iWP42tjVP@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <50qlan$eo6@nntp1.best.com> In-Reply-To: <50qlan$eo6@nntp1.best.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 7-Sep-96 emacs under OpenStep by John Wetherill@lighthous > Has anyone had any luck with emacs-19.3? under OpenStep? For what it's worth, emacs-19.3{1,2,4} have all compiled fine under NS 3.3pl1. Have you tried lying to configure and claiming you have a m68k-next-nextstep3 system? :-) > After some fiddling I managed to get 19.34 to compile, but running it results > in a "Fatal error (11).Segmentation fault". It loads completely, reads my > .emacs file, then dies. Same thing with "-q". Compile with CFLAGS = '-g', and run gdb on it. > And the same occurs for an emacs binary compiled under NEXTSTEP 3.3 and run > under OpenStep. No surprise there. Emacs dumps (ie, unexec()'s) it's binary image after loading the primitive elisp files. This process creates binaries which have strong dependancies to the precise version of the operating system that the emacs binary was dumped under. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: bo@sdphln (Bo Yang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 7 Sep 1996 17:33:10 GMT Organization: UCSD PHYSICS Message-ID: <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> In article <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> writes: >I am currently recruiting beta testers for my home-brewn application >IconDock. This nifty utility recreates in vivid details the awesome >NeXTSTEP AppBar, right on your Windows desktop. In a way, it's the Windows >counterpart of Afterstep for Linux, but it doesn't provide a whole new >window manager. Still, the AppDock replica is so close to the original >that it far surpasses the Wholf imitation in some areas (something tells me >the people doing Afterstep have never really used NeXTSTEP): > >- You can slide the bar up and down if it gets in your way, just like in >NeXTSTEP! > I don't know about the guys who's doing Afterstep, which continues on BowMan manager and adds fancier stuffs. But I promise you, the original BowMan author is a daily NeXTSTEP user, and he has a private contributed version of Wharf that behaves just like AppBar, sliding up and down with 3 holes coming and going. Well, I am Bowman's author. I havn't had time to work on BowMan for a while( writing thesis on NeXTSTEP), and next thing I knew, there was an AfterStep project. They seems to be doing just fine, but you're right, they don't seem to be Nextstep users. I havn't seen your work but it sounds fantastic. You'll need some good hackers to patch the Win95 binary and make the windows look like NeXTSTEP as well. But that's possible, and once I had a vision of gethering some Chinese hackers and get this dirty job going (We're good at patching up binaries. :-). well, at least to make the English applications compitable with Chinese language.) but, what the heck, NeXTSTEP window bars with Win95 widgets might simply look awful. IconDock is a nice project. Keep it up. There's a really old BowMan page at http://sdcc3.ucsd.edu/~byang/bowman. I probably will finish the project after my graduation, if the Afterstep guys havn't done a really good job at that time. - Bo
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Subject: Re: OpenStep for Mach on Black performance Message-ID: <DxDJr6.DwI@news2.new-york.net> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 18:09:06 GMT Earlier in the thread, I (garance) wrote: > tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) wrote: > > I'm running it on mono black h/w, and I am very happy with it. > > It is plenty fast enough (frankly the screen writing actualy > > is faster than my color/intel/3.3 stuff at work), > > I've run it a little on a 32meg greyscale NeXTstation (non-Turbo). > From the sound of the disk I'd guess that it must be paging more, > particularly at application startup. Once an application was > started, however, the performance seems quite reasonable. I'd > say that application startup seems slower than NS-3.3, but I > couldn't guess whether applications are slower after they have > started. > > Note that I haven't used it a lot. Maybe a few hours worth. Now that I've used it a little bit more, I found one important mistake in the above. I actually installed it on my 20-meg NeXTstation, not my 32-meg NeXTstation. It's still paging more than NS-3.3 running on the same hardware, but at least I have the option of improving that with more RAM. It also means that it might not be all that bad running on a color NeXTstation which did have 32meg of RAM. > Note that I haven't used any of the new developer stuff. Note that I still haven't had time to do anything with the new developer stuff, so it might be that I'd be less satisfied with the performance if I was (due to increased paging, from what others have suggested). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:50:58 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <wmAR8Wu00iWR45IVwq@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50s89r$k8b@news4.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <50s89r$k8b@news4.digex.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 7-Sep-96 Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look.. by Dave Briggman@universe.d > Didn't someone come out with a broser imitation for the Mac that NeXT > threatened with major legal action if the freeware wasn't > yanked..(although I am afraid this might be the only way to keep the > interface going) SIGH... Hmm. The last I heard was that the "look and feel" lawsuits by Apple and Lotus are still in the appeals process. So long as the freeware imitation does not violate genuine copyright issues (say, by "borrowing" graphic images like NeXT's recycler animation, to point out one _really_ stupid idea that certainly would get someone sued)-- it's likely that you can legally write your own implementation that resembles some other product without being in trouble. But I'm not a laywer, so don't blame me if I'm wrong. :-) If anyone is curious about this issue, perhaps you should talk to the "League for Programming Freedom"...no doubt they are well versed on this topic. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 7 Sep 1996 22:36:57 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <50ste9$q8g@news3.digex.net> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <01bb9cc5$49c861e0$d81443a4@lullaby> "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> wrote: > I also have something to say about the patching of Windows binaries as well. Even if it can be done, it'll only cause trouble in the long run, considering the sheer rate at which Microsoft changes the Windows interface. I don't think Windows interface is a bad one, either. It just has a different style; and it doesn't giveup usability for looks like NeXTSTEP does in some areas. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinions... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 7 Sep 1996 22:04:15 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bb9cc5$49c861e0$d81443a4@lullaby> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Bo Yong! Nice to meet you. Thank you for your compliment. IconDock now has a homepage at http://home1.gte.net/everblue. I also have something to say about the patching of Windows binaries as well. Even if it can be done, it'll only cause trouble in the long run, considering the sheer rate at which Microsoft changes the Windows interface. I don't think Windows interface is a bad one, either. It just has a different style; and it doesn't giveup usability for looks like NeXTSTEP does in some areas.
From: "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 7 Sep 1996 22:09:22 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bb9cc6$00bbdcb0$d81443a4@lullaby> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby><50s89r$k8b@news4.digex.net> <wmAR8Wu00iWR45IVwq@andrew.cmu.edu> So long as the freeware imitation does not violate genuine copyright issues (say, by "borrowing" graphic images like NeXT's recycler animation, to point out one _really_ stupid idea that certainly would get someone sued) Well, Afterstep pages are now showing Wharf bars with recycler icons on them. Would it make any difference if I go an extra mile and add the animation? Am I more likely to be sued than the Linux guys?
From: "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: IconDock now has a homepage! Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows! Date: 7 Sep 1996 22:10:54 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bb9cc6$38006bf0$d81443a4@lullaby> THE most precise imitation of NeXTSTEP AppDock now has a homepage at http://home1.gte.net/everblue
From: "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 7 Sep 1996 22:48:31 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bb9ccb$788c10c0$d81443a4@lullaby> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <01bb9cc5$49c861e0$d81443a4@lullaby> <50ste9$q8g@news3.digex.net> > I guess everyone is entitled to their opinions... > -- Indeed. Pray that it stays this way.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: 8 Sep 1996 01:17:24 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <50t6r4$rqd@news3.digex.net> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <01bb9cc5$49c861e0$d81443a4@lullaby> <50ste9$q8g@news3.digex.net> <01bb9ccb$788c10c0$d81443a4@lullaby> "Millennium Warrior" <everblue@ucla.edu> wrote: > > I guess everyone is entitled to their opinions... > Indeed. Pray that it stays this way. I'd rather save my prayers to wish for more enlightened opinions. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: Michael Bush <Michael_Bush@byu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Popper on NeXT Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 19:58:45 -0600 Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Message-ID: <32322855.5BEA@byu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone had any experience compiling and running the Popper app under NeXTStep to get E-mail from the NeXT using POP? -- Cheers, Mike Michael_Bush@byu.edu (First choice!) http://moliere.byu.edu/digital/ (Check it out!) (801) 378-4515 (801) 378-4649 (Last resort!)
From: me@solaris1mysolution.com (Tommy K. Hwang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Popper on NeXT Date: 8 Sep 1996 05:45:21 GMT Organization: Internet Solutions Inc. Message-ID: <50tmhh$7hg@news.mysolution.com> References: <32322855.5BEA@byu.edu> In article <32322855.5BEA@byu.edu>, Michael Bush <Michael_Bush@byu.edu> wrote: >Has anyone had any experience compiling and running the Popper app under >NeXTStep to get E-mail from the NeXT using POP? There is compiled and package version on ftp sites for NeXT. The popper works just like any other POP daemon. What is missing as far as I am concern is the lack of the following: 1. slirp - TCPIP emulation 2. user disk quota I have SVR4/BSDi User quota ported to the NeXT, but I do not have a quota shell, or a shell suitable for restricting user actions when quota filled. If anyone made one, please contact me... I would like to release this binary, but only when it can be used directly. -ME
From: michal@.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: LaTeX and PostScript Date: 8 Sep 1996 06:07:51 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <50tnrn$110q@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <9608272149.AA00530@nebula.cdrom.com> <dzt20grcsbm.fsf@eng.sun.com> Christian Callsen (ccallsen@eng.sun.com) wrote: : : Eric Tremblay <eric@cdrom.com> writes: : > : > Does anyone have experience outputing a TeX document to a higher : > resolution? : : Here's an attempt: : : 1. under /usr/lib/tex/dvips create a file called config.2540 by copying : the file config.ps from the same directory. : : 2. in config.2540, change the 'D 400' to 'D 2540' (dpi) : : 3. make sure there is a line 'M LinotypeThreeZeroZeroHi' (METAFONT : mode which switches to a Linotronic 300 at high resolution) in the : file. This may be not good enough if your mf does not have LinotypeThreeZeroZeroHi mode in its mf.base. You will have to add definition of such mode (in high resolutions parameter settings are less critical, so anything reasonable will likely do here but better solution would be to search for such parameters in modes.mf datbase from any CTAN servers). With NeXT distribution these definitions reside in a file 'next.mf'. After an edit you have to rerun inimf to create your 'mf.base' (really a link to 'plain.mf'). 'mf' has an infuriating habit of quietly defaulting to 'proof' mode if a mode definiton is missing (akin of Postscript defaulting to Courier). If you are using teTeX distribution for NeXT then this is just a matter of re-running 'texconfig' utility. It will take care about various administrative matters automatically. To have bitmaps created automatically edit MakeTeXPK (this is a shell script) to add proper lines. Once you will read it it will be obvious what to add. Another option is to use scalable fonts. Bitmapts at this resolution will be quite large and will take a while to compute (size of .pk files grows roughly linearly with a resolution as they use an internal compression). : 4. make sure that output goes where you want (a line with 'o !lpr : -PPostScript' sends things to the printer - if you remove such a line : output will go to xxx.ps from xxx.dvi). It is not a rocket science to override config file defaults for dvips. If you do not want to be bothered with a manual page (recommended) read at least help screen which will show up if you type just 'dvips'. Michal
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (BongOk Kim (kornet)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: A3 Size Printing Problem Date: 8 Sep 1996 12:18:40 GMT Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <50udj0$ncu@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Hi, I try A3 printing by NeXT Color Printer. But printed image or test document was just A4 size in A3 paper. How can I set up NeXT Color Printer for A3 size printing? Thanks. YoungHoon Kil From South Korea ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Message-ID: <199609081219.IAA07521@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 96 08:20:16 -0400 Subject: printerinfo.html - does anyone have a copy? Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com Unbelievable as it sounds, I need a copy of my own FAQ. The file formerly as: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html is now missing (yes, I deleted it by accident yesterday) and my ISP's doesn't do backups of the webpage stuff. Did anyone happen to copy it to their local HD? If so, could you email it to me, NeXTmail or MIME? Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXTstep Web Page: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next Swapdisk/Swapfile Faq: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/swapfaq.html Misc NeXT Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/mailserver
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Popper on NeXT Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960908111619.6686A-100000@charisma> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:17:42 -0400 References: <32322855.5BEA@byu.edu> To: Michael Bush <Michael_Bush@byu.edu> In-Reply-To: <32322855.5BEA@byu.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/PopOver.v1.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/PopOver.v1.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz.README Should be everything you need, in one nice little package (no, not a .pkg, just the generic usage of the word) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXTstep Web Page: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next Swapdisk/Swapfile Faq: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/swapfaq.html Misc NeXT Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/mailserver On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Michael Bush wrote: > Has anyone had any experience compiling and running the Popper app under > NeXTStep to get E-mail from the NeXT using POP? > > -- > > Cheers, > > Mike > Michael_Bush@byu.edu (First choice!) > http://moliere.byu.edu/digital/ (Check it out!) > (801) 378-4515 (801) 378-4649 (Last resort!) > > >
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 11:33:39 -0500 Organization: Illinois State University- Instructional Technology Services Message-ID: <3232F4D0.561A@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50s89r$k8b@news4.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Dave Briggman <briggman@universe.digex.net> Dave Briggman wrote: > Didn't someone come out with a broser imitation for the Mac that NeXT > threatened with major legal action if the freeware wasn't > yanked..(although I am afraid this might be the only way to keep the > interface going) SIGH... The closest thing I've seen on the MAC OS is this shareware app called Greg's Browser, see: http://greg.math.harvard.edu/index.html ---------------------------------------- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ASCII, MIME, SUN or NeXT Mail; PGP ok. * PGP public key available, send mail with subj "Send PGP Key" Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University Understanding is best learned via experience ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TRIPLE BOOT with NT 4.0 Workstation, WAS: Dual Boot Win95 & NeXT Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 12:03:22 -0500 Organization: Illinois State University- Instructional Technology Services Message-ID: <3232FBC2.2297@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960905135159.28073A-100000@wpi.WPI.EDU> <50oogv$5dm@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Marcel Bresink <bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Marcel Bresink wrote: > Jon Day <jonday@wpi.edu> wrote: > > on my Intel box. All was well until I I installed windows 95. It > >knocked out my boot prompt for NeXT. I'm wondering if anyone knows how to triple boot an Intel box that is using the NeXT boot manager with 95 currently, and wish to add NT 4.0 Workstation to this?! Thanks ---------------------------------------- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ASCII, MIME, SUN or NeXT Mail; PGP ok. * PGP public key available, send mail with subj "Send PGP Key" Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University Understanding is best learned via experience ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Message-ID: <199609082000.QAA07912@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 96 14:59:29 -0400 Subject: Do you have these files from my webpage? Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com I have made two very bad mistakes. I have deleted two files from my webpage http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html and http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/swapfaq-qa.html (basically, I was cleaning up old copies of the files and removed the files by accident, and my ISP is not running backups on the web-stuff). I am hoping that someone out there might have saved copies of these files to their hard drive, and might be able to email them to me, thus saving me much time and frustration. Please respond asap... Thanks TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXTstep Web Page: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next Swapdisk/Swapfile Faq: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/swapfaq.html Misc NeXT Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/mailserver
From: jclemens@big.aa.net (Jonathan Clemens) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TRIPLE BOOT with NT 4.0 Workstation, WAS: Dual Boot Win95 & NeXT Date: 8 Sep 1996 16:25:15 -0700 Organization: Alternate Access Inc. - Affordable, Reliable Internet Access Message-ID: <50vkkr$53n@big.aa.net> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960905135159.28073A-100000@wpi.WPI.EDU> <50oogv$5dm@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> <3232FBC2.2297@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> In article <3232FBC2.2297@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, Eric A. Dubiel <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> wrote: >Marcel Bresink wrote: >> Jon Day <jonday@wpi.edu> wrote: >> > on my Intel box. All was well until I I installed windows 95. It >> >knocked out my boot prompt for NeXT. > >I'm wondering if anyone knows how to triple boot an Intel box that is >using the NeXT boot manager with 95 currently, and wish to add NT 4.0 >Workstation to this?! Getting Win95 and NT 4.0 on the same boot menu should prove no problem at all. Just install NT after 95 and it should do this by default. I have a quintuple-boot: NeXT Boot0 on my MBR, OS/2 Boot Manager as the active partition on hd0; Win NT, 3.1, and OS/2 Warp on hd1; Linux and scratch space on hd2. NeXT boot0 works like normal, except that since OS/2 boot manager is the active partition on drive one, *it* is booted if I don't select a choice. Lilo is installed in my Linux root partition, and can boot Dos, NeXT, or Linux. No matter how I get to dos, it gives me the NT or 6.22 option. :-) As a matter of intellectual disdain, I refuse to let Windows 95 share such a glorious morass. ;-) So why do I have Dos 6.22/Win 3.1, Linux, OS/2 Warp, and NT Server installed on my machine? I dunno, I use NeXT Step 80% of the time... Jonathan Clemens http://www.aa.net/~jclemens
From: Hans Becker <hans.becker@mailbox.postnet.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Again: What to do with a NextStation? Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 22:03:51 +0200 Organization: No Corporation Distribution: inet Message-ID: <323326A7.180F@mailbox.postnet.se> References: <32297CBB.4E13@mailbox.postnet.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OOps, unforunately I sent away the message to the newsgroup before I finished it. I have a Nextstation and a laserwriter attached to it. Originally I used the Next Station for various programming projects but I don´t need it for that anymore. My original question was if someone had any good ideas of what to do with the machine if you don´t program. I have not stayed tuned to the developments in the Next area for the last 2 years, so I am not familiar with the software packages out there. My original idea was to convert the machine to an Internet terminal, but I do not know which software to use for that purpose. Any good Java virtual machines out there? If I sell the machine I will probably not get so much money from it. So the question is rather: What useful software should I load the machine with if I am going to use the Next station as a good and fun home computer? Any good ideas? -- Hans Becker, Sweden Email: hans.becker@mailbox.postnet.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Message-ID: <199609090321.XAA08169@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 96 23:21:24 -0400 Subject: A boot-able floppy disk Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com I am trying to get a bootable floppy disk.... By that I mean a disk from which I can boot into single user mode (ie: not just a disk which will kick off to a CD-ROM). NeXT has a script which used to do this for 2.88 disks. However, because so much has changed (ie everything has gotten bigger since then) it no longer fits on one floppy disk. However, by setting up my EZ to take on the mini-system, I found the files which it copied, and then removed "non essential" programs and files (ie things you wouldn't necessarily need in an emergency situation). However, I cannot get the system down to fit onto a NeXT-formatted 1.44 disk. When you format a floppy for NeXT it goes to 1.20 megs, and that's just such a small space. I've tried to narrow it down as much as possible (1.8 megs) and while I can boot, I can't run the 'mount' 'rm' and other commands (error message: "cannot execute"). Does anyone know why this is? I've got a list of the original files which the script made, and a list of the files which remain on the floppy. At any rate, I'm about to stop work on this because I've got access to a 2.88 meg diskdrive. However, if anyone is interested in the files, they can be retrieved by sending email to me with the SUBJECT send-ascii minifloppy.txt (for the list of files on the floppy [1.8] megs) send-ascii miniboot.txt (for a full list of the files made by the mkmagic script [5.x megs]) (this file is 38 kb) send-ascii mkmagic.sh (for the script I used) If you'd like a copy of the 2.88 bootfloppy (m68k only) or a list of the files, drop me a line and I'll get back to you as soon as I have it done. TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXTstep Web Page: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next Swapdisk/Swapfile Faq: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/swapfaq.html Misc NeXT Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/mailserver
From: hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com (Hassan N. Kelley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: New Micropolis Won't boot Date: 9 Sep 1996 09:24:42 GMT Organization: SSNet -- Public Internet Access in Delaware! Message-ID: <510noq$pt@news.ssnet.com> I just bought a New Micropolis Model 4221 TY0030-02-7 HD for my ColorTurbo. The The DiskBuild completes but when I try to boot the Micropolis it hangs while loading from disk. The ROM Monitor says it fails at some kind of "init". Any solutions? Hassan hassan@blackstar.ssnet.com -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FYI;"!4:6UE<RU2;VUA;CM]"EQM M87)G;#$R,`I<;6%R9W(Q,C`*7'!A<F1<='@T.#!<='@Y-C!<='@Q-#0P7'1X M,3DR,%QT>#(T,#!<='@R.#@P7'1X,S,V,%QT>#,X-#!<='@T,S(P7'1X-#@P M,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($D@:G5S="!B;W5G:'0@ M82!.97<@36EC<F]P;VQI<R!-;V1E;"`T,C(Q(%19,#`S,"TP,BTW($A$(&9O M<B!M>2!#;VQO<E1U<F)O+B`@5&AE(%1H92!$:7-K0G5I;&0@8V]M<&QE=&5S M(&)U="!W:&5N($D@=')Y('1O(&)O;W0@=&AE($UI8W)O<&]L:7,@:70@:&%N M9W,@=VAI;&4@;&]A9&EN9R!F<F]M(&1I<VLN("!4:&4@4D]-($UO;FET;W(@ M<V%Y<R!I="!F86EL<R!A="!S;VUE(&MI;F0@;V8@(FEN:70B+B`@($%N>2!S M;VQU=&EO;G,_7`I<"DAA<W-A;EP*:&%S<V%N0&)L86-K<W1A<BYS<VYE="YC %;VT*?0IO `
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to connect Powerbook 100 to Turbo NeXT? Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:57:58 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <DxGp4n.Bys@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <50o1ku$298@mozart.jlc.net> In article <50o1ku$298@mozart.jlc.net> jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net (The Rev. James David Meacham) writes: > > > Hi All, > > I recently bought an old Mac Powerbook 100. It's a nifty little > machine, if a bit slow. Problem is, it doesn't have a floppy drive. > Is there a cheap or easy way to connect this machine to mine, say, to > transfer files? Seriel ports maybe? If anyone has any ideas, please > let me know. Peace, > > James I've got a Powerbook 170 connected to a black NeXT (connected as of last week - I've been meaning to get round to it for months!). Connecting up the serial ports, and running PPP works fine, though it's a bit slow. I used the cable as described in the NeXT man pages (68040 to 68030 cable). It runs reliably at 9600, but I've had a few minor problems at 19200. The downside is that you only get about 1K per second over a serial line :-( However the plus side is that it works perfectly. FTP is fantastic for backing stuff up, as Fetch supports sending directories, and deals with resource forks transparently. MacPPP cannot support appleshare over tcp (as far as I know, with the version I've got). However the NeXT implementation of appleshare is a bit dodgey wrt handling resource forks, so I it's not much use for transfering stuff or backing stuff up (executor is handy for this). The above has the advantage that it's free. If you want to go faster, then you could get an SCSI->Ether thingy(?). They basically plug into the SCSI port, and act like an ether card. I think they cost ~$150. Either way you need MacTCP (comes with sys7, otherwise very hard to get hold of!). Could use opentransport instead, but that needs 7.5, which probably isn't to hot on an PB100. for PPP you either need MacPPP or FreePPP. FreePPP is pretty easy to pick up on most coverCD's, as is telnet, and Fetch (a good ftp client). $an
From: John Rudd <kzin@isc.sjsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Evolution - 2 Date: 9 Sep 1996 17:47:54 GMT Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <511l8a$hq2@nuke.csu.net> References: <50q2gb$4lh@precipice.fdn.fr> Cc: hugues@precipice.fdn.fr In <50q2gb$4lh@precipice.fdn.fr> Hugues RICHARD wrote: [] Hi, all of you... [] [] I previously posted about one week ago to launch a survey about what [] will you use if NS dies one day... [] [] I got a few answers (15...) mainly from north-america and germany [] plus a few others from Japan by a friend helping me. [] [] I think having a good survey of the NS market direction could be a [] strong signal to give the few 3rd party dev. remaining in the NS [] market, not only by saying "Yes I use it" but also by saying what you [] will use "AFTER", so these developper could adapt their product and [] know where will be the next market. [] [] The more answer I'll receive, the more representaive the survey will [] be. [] [] So please, could you tell me "what do you plan to use in the future [] if NeXTSTEP will no longer be supported" : OS/SUN, OS/NT, NS even if [] old, GNUSTEP, and so on (open question : even Win3.1 is accepted [] :-)... [] Well, ok, how's this.. I use Nextstep 3.3 now.. I DO plan to upgrade to Openstep 4.0 for Mach.. I'll probably keep buying Next's operating system as long as I can (as long as NeXT keeps it in existance). I am planning, starting in January, to work with Mach4.0/BSDlites and GNUstep to put together something that might make me feel at home, so where I plan to move if Nextstep dies, or I am no longer able to afford it, is probably a) GNUstep/Mach 4/BSDlites at home, and b) Openstep/Solaris at work. -- John "kzin" Rudd kzin@email.sjsu.edu http://icb.sjsu.edu/~kzin =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ "And, ironically, that's how the founding fathers expected it to work: either the government stays clean, or the people shoot them." -- ttk
From: joe8844@singnet.com.sg (Joseph Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Turn $5 into more.It's real Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 18:56:19 GMT Organization: Singapore Telecom Internet Service Message-ID: <512qqk$hur@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Turn $5 into more.It's real This is not one of those "Get Rich Quick Schemes" or "mail-order Schemes". But enough to pay off your debts and who knows, you could be test driving the new Mercedes in the next three months. If you're too eager to read what this is about then go right to the Instruction Section at the bottom of this article. READ ON. If it doesn't make sense, read it again and again until it does! ******************************************************************* Hello! I've got some awesome news that I think you need to take two minutes to read if you have ever thought "How could I make some serious cash in a hurry???" , or been in serious debt, ready to do almost anything to get the money needed to pay off those bill collectors. So grab a snack, a warm cup of coffee, or a glass of your favorite beverage, get comfortable and listen to this interesting, exciting find! (If you're reading this on-line, I suggest that you QUICKLY download it to your hard drive FIRST, just in case some do-gooder takes it off the news board. You can always read it with a text editor, like Windows Notepad. Also, you will find this copy on your disk to be most useful, as you will later see. Just use the File: Save As command.) Let me start by saying that I FINALLY FOUND IT! That's right! I found it! And I HATE GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES!! I hate those schemes like multi-level marketing, mail-order schemes, envelope stuffing scams, 900 number scams... the list goes on forever. I have tried every darn get rich quick scheme out there over the past 12 years. I somehow got on mailing lists for people looking to make money (more like 'desperate stupid people who will try anything for money!'). Well, when I was a teenager, these claims to 'get me rich quick' sounded irresistible! I would shell out $14.95 here, $29.95 there, $24.95 here, and another $49.95 there. I had maxed out my new Circuit City Card AND my Visa... I was desperate for money!! So, I gave them all a chance but failed at every one of them! Maybe they worked for some people, but not for me. Eventually, I just tossed that JUNK MAIL in the trash when I got the mail. I recognized it right away. I can smell a money scam from a mile away these days, SO I THOUGHT.... I thought I could sniff out a scam easily. WAS I WRONG!! ...I LOVE THE INTERNET!!! I was scanning thru a NEWSGROUP and saw an article stating to GET CASH FAST!! I thought... "Here on the Internet?? Well, I'll just have to see what schemes could possibly be on the internet." The article described a way to MAIL A ONE DOLLAR BILL TO ONLY FIVE PEOPLE AND MAKE $50,000 IN CASH WITHIN 4 WEEKS! Well, the more I thought about it, the more I became very curious. Why? Because of the way it worked AND BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY COST ME FIVE DOLLARS (AND FIVE STAMPS), THAT'S ALL I EVER PAY.... EVER!! Ok, so the $50,000 in cash was maybe a tough amount to reach, but it was possible. I figured that I could at least get a return of $1,000 or so. So I did it!! As per the instructions in the article, I mailed out ('snail mail' for you e-mail fanatics) a single dollar bill to each of the five people on the list that was contained in the article. I included a small note, with the dollar, that stated "Please Add Me To Your List." I then removed the first position name of the five names listed and moved everyone up one position, and I put my name in position five of the list. This is how the money starts rolling in! I then took this revised article now with my name on the list and REPOSTED IT ON AS MANY NEWSGROUPS AND LOCAL BULLETIN BOARD MESSAGE AREAS THAT I KNEW. I then waited to watch the money come in... prepared to maybe receive about $1000 to $1500 in cash or so.... But what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!! I knew what they were as soon as I saw the return addresses from people all over the world - Most from the U.S., but some from Canada, even some from Australia! I tell you, THAT WAS EXCITING!! So how much did I get in total return? $1000? $5000? Not even!!! I received a total of $23,343!!! I couldn't believe it!! I now have a brand new black Acura Integra to speak for, due to this!! Now after almost 8 months, I am ready to do it again!!! So maybe it was possible to get $50,000 in cash, I don't know, but IT COMPLETELY DEPENDS ON YOU, THE INDIVIDUAL! You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of! The more postings you achieve will determine how much cash will arrive in your very own mailbox!! It's just too easy to pass up!!! Let's review the reasons why you should do this: The only cost factors are for the five stamps, the 5 envelopes and the 5 one dollar bills that you send out to the listed names by snail mail (US Postal Service Mail). Then just simply repost the article (WITH YOUR NAME ADDED) to all the newsgroups and local BBS's you can. Then sit back and, (ironically), enjoy walking (you can run if you like! :o ) down your driveway to your mailbox and scoop up your rewards!! We all have five dollars to put into such an easy effortless investment with SPECTACULAR REALISTIC RETURNS OF $15,000 to $25,000 in about 3-5 weeks! So HOLD OFF ON THOSE LOTTERY NUMBERS FOR TODAY, EAT AT HOME TONIGHT INSTEAD OF TAKEOUT FROM McDONALDS AND INVEST FIVE DOLLARS IN THIS AMAZING MONEY MAKING SYSTEM NOW!!! YOU CAN'T LOSE!! So how do you do it exactly, you ask? I have carefully provided the most detailed, yet straight-forward instructions on how to easily get this underway and get your cash on its way. SO, ARE YOU READY TO MAKE SOME CASH!!!?? HERE WE GO!!! ******************************************************************** *** (THE LIST OF NAMES IS AT THE END OF THIS ARTICLE.) *** OK, Read this carefully. Get a printout of this information, if you like, so you can easily refer to it as often as needed. (Not that it's difficult or anything.) INSTRUCTIONS: 1. Take a sheet of paper and write on it the following: "Please add my name to your list". This creates a service out of this money making system and thus makes it completely legal. You are not just randomly sending a dollar to someone, you are paying one dollar for a legitimate service. Make sure you include your name and address. I assure you that, again, this is completely legal! For a neat little twist, also write what slot their name was in: "You were in slot #3", just to add a little fun! This is all about having fun and making money at the same time! 2. Now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill, (no checks or money orders), and put them into an envelope and send it on its way to the five people listed. The folding of the paper around the bill will ensure its arrival to its recipient. THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!! (Otherwise, some unscrupulous mail delivery person may see what's inside and start helping himself to all the thousands of envelopes arriving!) 3. Now listen carefully, here's where you get YOUR MONEY COMING TO YOUR MAILBOX. Look at the list of five people; remove the first name from position one and move everyone on the list up one slot on the list. Position #2's name will now move to the position #1 slot, position #3 will now become position #2, #4 will be #3, #5 will be #4. Now put your name, address, zipcode AND COUNTRY in position #5, the bottom position on the list. 4. Now upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and local bulletin boards, message areas & file sections as possible. Give a catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!! Such as: "NEED FAST CASH?, HERE IT IS!" or "NEED CASH TO PAY OFF YOUR DEBTS??", etc. And the more uploads, the more money you will make, and of course, the more money the others on the list will make too. LET'S ALL TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER BY BEING HONEST AND BY PUTTING FORTH 120 PERCENT INTO THIS PROFITABLE & AMAZING SYSTEM!!! You'll reap the benefits, believe me!!! Set a goal for the number of total uploads you'll post, such as 15-20 postings or more! Always have a goal in mind!!! If you can UUE encode the file when uploading, that will make it easier for the people to receive it and have it downloaded to their hard drive. That way they get a copy of the article right on their computer without hassles of viewing and then saving the article from the File menu. DON'T ALTER THE FILE TYPE, leave it as an MS-DOS Text file. The best test is to be able to view this file using Microsoft's Notepad for Windows 3.x or WordPad for Windows '95. (Do NOT use the WordWrap option. It will screw the margins up!) If the margins look right without making the screen slide left or right when at the ends of the sentences, you're in business! 5. If you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the BBS, or "POST" a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a file, tell them who your Internet provider is and PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS BE GLAD TO HELP. I would try to describe how to do it but there are simply too many internet software packages with slightly different yet relatively simple ways to post or upload a file. Just ask for help or look in the help section for 'posting'. I do know that for GNN, you simply select 'POST' then enter a catchy description under the subject box, choose 'ATTACH', selecting 'UUE' and NOT 'TXT', then choose 'Browse' to go look for the file. Find your text file, i.e. CASH.TXT, and click on it and choose 'OK'. Place a one line statement in the main body section of the message post screen. Something like "Download this to read how to get cash arriving in your mailbox with no paybacks!" or whatever. Just make sure it represents its true feasibility, NOT something like... "Get one million dollars flooding in your mailbox in two days!" You'll never get ANY responses! 6. And this is the step I like. JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY LIFE BECAUSE CASH IS ON ITS WAY!! Expect to see a little money start to trickle in around 2 weeks, but AT ABOUT WEEKS 3 & 4, THE MONEY STORM WILL HIT YOUR MAILBOX!! All you have to do is take it out of the mailbox and try not to scream too loud (outside anyway) when you realize YOU HIT THE BIG TIME AT LAST!! 7. So go PAY OFF YOUR BILLS AND DEBTS and then get that something special you always wanted or buy that special person in your life (or the one you want in your life) a gift they'll never forget. ENJOY LIFE! 8. Now when you get low on this money supply, simply re-activate this file again; Reposting it in the old places where you originally posted and possibly some new places you now know of. Don't ever lose this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you ever need cash. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TOOL THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS RE-USE TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHEN CASH IS NEEDED! ****************************************************************** What that means simplified is: 1) Send $1 to the people on the list 2) Put your name on list 3) Post list everywhere you can 4) People send money to you because your name is on the list GOT IT! ****************************************************************** THE NAMES LIST THE NAMES LIST THE NAME LIST ****************************************************************** ************************************************ HONESTY IS WHAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL!!! ************************************************ 1. Daniel Hernandez 1413 Edsent Ave Charleston, SC 29407 2. Seth Young 11 Biscayne Place Newark, DE 19713 3. Ben Kelly 65 Massasoit Ave Mashpee, MA 02649 4. Sami Takieddin 1203 Snyder Lane, Apt 1000C Blacksburg, VA 24060 5. Joe Wong Block 37,Circuit Rd #09-437 Singapore 370037 ****************************************************************** If it didn't work, you would see posts saying so. IT DOES WORK!!! ******************************************************************
From: batmon@abico.com.tw (Mon-Sen Yang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Install NeXT to a notebook computer Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:59:06 GMT Organization: j%nki~w€RJ3M-26XPLZ8L-BFGD44CT-1EA6BC82 Message-ID: <512set$99n@netnews.hinet.net> Hi, I am planing to install OpenStep or NeXTStep v3.3 to a notebook computer. The notebook is P586/100, 16MB RAM with 1GB EIDE HD. I also use an Adaptec SlimSCSI card to attach my CD-ROM. The problem is when I use the boot-up disk and set the CD-ROM driver to Adaptec PCMCIA 6x60 Card, HD to EIDE driver;, it only found my HD and said there is no SCSI device or CD-ROM. I did check with NeXTanswers and it says NeXT does support Adaptec SlimSCSI card. Is there any other driver I have to load or any procedure I have to do for NeXT to be able to find the Slim SCSI card??
From: kschulz@ip.lu (Kay Schulz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Lighthouse apps on OpenStep - A definitive answer! Date: 10 Sep 1996 05:24:52 GMT Organization: Infopartners S.A. Luxembourg Message-ID: <512u34$5dl@oops.ip.lu> References: <5054bi$b22@nntp1.best.com> <50dijm$evj@news2.dn.net> Cc: jstella@okeefe.com In <50dijm$evj@news2.dn.net> Seraphim J. Stella wrote: > lynne@lighthouse.com (Lynne Fitzpatrick Angeloro) wrote: > > >PLEASE, if you hear something "adverse" about any Lighthouse product or > >policy, feel free to just ask me or anyone at info@lighthouse.com, we'll > >tell you what we can! > > > >Regards, > >Lynne. > > Thanks much. I talked to you via email and shortly thereafter posted what you > told me up onto the net. Hope I didn't cause you the thousands of emails that > you mentioned. I would still like to find out who at Lighthouse told me that > you were abandoning Mach though... > > Josh Stella > Director of Programming > O'Keefe Marketing > Here a statement when I asked about Lighthouse products on Openstep: Lighthouse Design will be porting all of their applications, including Diagram -- Kay Schulz kschulz@ip.lu Internet Section Leader
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Control: cancel <512qqk$hur@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Subject: cmsg cancel <512qqk$hur@lantana.singnet.com.sg> From: snowhare@xmission.com Sender: joe8844@singnet.com.sg (Joseph Wong) Date: 10 Sep 96 09:53:22 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.512qqk$hur@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Organization: Devilbunnies Spam Cancelling Division Spam Cancellation. For details see news.admin.net-abuse.announce
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <6GWM8GU--JB@delphin.tbx.berlinet.de> From: M.GUENTSCHE@TBX.BerliNet.DE (mark-oliver guentsche) Subject: Next 400 dpi printer prints no more Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 12:12:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii paper feed is ok, toner ok, but the paper is left blank while printing. whats that? mark
From: 3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.emacs Subject: Re: emacs under OpenStep Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.emacs Date: 10 Sep 1996 16:51:05 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Message-ID: <51469p$2pt@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> References: <50qlan$eo6@nntp1.best.com> John Wetherill (john@lighthouse.com) wrote: : Has anyone had any luck with emacs-19.3? under OpenStep? : After some fiddling I managed to get 19.34 to compile, but running it results : in a "Fatal error (11).Segmentation fault". It loads completely, reads my : .emacs file, then dies. Same thing with "-q". : And the same occurs for an emacs binary compiled under NEXTSTEP 3.3 and run : under OpenStep. : Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. : John Wetherill : john@lighthouse.com I had some problems as well as I tried to compile emacs 19.30. The README.Next from the emacs sources supplied with Openstep said that emacs won't compile correct as long as you don't use gcc -static to compile. Everything I tried to compile with -static gave me an error from ld saying that it couldn't find the library for sys_s. I didn't find it either so I gave up. The solutions I chossed where to install Emacs for NeXTstep. You can get it from ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Unix/editor/ It works under Openstep for Mach 4.0 even in Terminal mode. The executable is located in /LocalApps/Emacs.app/Emacs and you should create a link to this in /usr/bin or wherever you like. BTW emacs doesn't startup correctly unless you give it a file to load (for example emacs test.c). The version uses was 4.1 not 4.12. I don't know whether this one works as well. The emacs version Emacs for NeXTstep is based on is 19.28. Hope this helps, Eberhard BTW I am definetly tired of NeXT suppling old GNU software like gcc 2.5.8 and emacs 18 and changing the system in such a way, that the newer versions of the GNU tools don't work with Openstep. Don't they realise that they would get much better software for free if they incorparted their patches in the current releases of the GNU software?
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q: A3 Size Printing Problem Date: 10 Sep 1996 17:08:27 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5147ab$p9a@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <50udj0$ncu@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> In-Reply-To: <50udj0$ncu@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> On 09/08/96, BongOk Kim (kornet wrote: > I try A3 printing by NeXT Color Printer. > But printed image or test document was just A4 size in A3 paper. > How can I set up NeXT Color Printer for A3 size printing? > Have you selected A3 sixe paper in your application? If your document is "naturally" A4 size, you should print it out at 141% size. If you haven't already, you should also consider getting GSCorp's eXTRAPRINT software: their driver for the NeXT Color printer is very good -- you'd hardly believe it's the same device! Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: justin@stat.ohio-state.edu (Justin Slauson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT's SUCK.... Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:18:13 -0400 Organization: Department of Statistics, The Ohio State University Message-ID: <justin-1009961518130001@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A NeXT sucks when you don't have an OS for them. I mean, I've got to admit the thing looks a lot cooler than my PowerMac when their both off, but playing around in the monitor loses it's novelty quickly. I was given an stripped NeXT Station and for the past two months have tried posting to get a copy of NS 3.3 (preferably the academic version with the bundled software). Nobody seems to have this, SOMEONE has to have upgraded to OpenStep 4.0 and no longer needs their 3.3 CD anymore! Well, I know one person who has, but I don't feel like paying $230 for obsolete software that only cost $299 new! Sorry for the subject line, but if you're reading this it obviously got your attention. Please respond if you can help me in my quest. Thanks! -Justin
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PS 2 EPS Date: 10 Sep 1996 16:48:43 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <51465b$fbn@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hi all, I have created some beautiful graphs using Quantrix. Unfortunately, the only way I've been able to get them to a file is by using Print->Save. The results are nice postscript files. The problem is that I now want to import these files into a TeX document. I have been able to get them to appear using the epsf package, but the bounding box of the picture is the whole page, not just the graph. What is the easiest way to convert the ps file to an eps file with a bounding box that just surrounds the graph? I tried opening the PS file in imageviewer and then saving to EPS, but that didn't work too well. Any help sincerely appreciated. - Steve --- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ATTENTION FIEND USERS Date: 10 Sep 1996 11:18:57 -0400 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <5140t1$rc3@panix.com> I have relocated, so the address given for Fiend correspondence in the Fiend "Info->Suggestion..." menu item is now invalid. Fiend correspondence should now be directed to dcl@panix.com. - dcl -- David C. Lambert dcl@panix.com (finger for PGP 2.6.2 public key) (key fingerprint "5F 88 1A 54 3C EA DA FA F5 8E 0B 68 48 4C 02 48")
From: John Rudd <kzin@isc.sjsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT's SUCK.... Date: 10 Sep 1996 19:31:42 GMT Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <514fmu$hs7@nuke.csu.net> References: <justin-1009961518130001@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Cc: justin@stat.ohio-state.edu In <justin-1009961518130001@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Justin Slauson wrote: [] A NeXT sucks when you don't have an OS for them. I suspect any machine sucks when you don't have an OS for it. [] I was given an stripped NeXT Station and for the past two months have [] tried posting to get a copy of NS 3.3 (preferably the academic version [] with the bundled software). Nobody seems to have this, SOMEONE has to [] have upgraded to OpenStep 4.0 and no longer needs their 3.3 CD anymore! [] Well, I know one person who has, but I don't feel like paying $230 for [] obsolete software that only cost $299 new! So, you're complaining about spending a grand total of $325 (after tax) on this machine? Oh please... Just go out and buy the new 4.0 edition of the software, and quit whining. -- John "kzin" Rudd kzin@email.sjsu.edu http://icb.sjsu.edu/~kzin =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ "And, ironically, that's how the founding fathers expected it to work: either the government stays clean, or the people shoot them." -- ttk isk in the floppy disk drive. > >---> Any help would be appreciated... -- [ Daniel M. Drucker / dmd@3e.org ] dreams windblown and scattered among the grass and sand
From: nextsale@ibgi.com (Ed C.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FS - NeXTstations. $450.00 & up. Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 01:01:56 GMT Organization: IBGi Message-ID: <514vks$ekb@swifty.cfa.org> Company went out of business. We still have 30+ units available for sale; starting at $450.00 Excellent condition. Various configurations available. All units guaranteed against DOA. Used but NOT ABUSED. Bright N4000B MegaPixel Monitors. For more information please check out: http://ibgi.com/nextsale.htm or mailto:nextsale@ibgi.com or call 1-914-928-3076 Lv. Msg. if no ans. or Fax 1-914-928-7266
From: Ernest Aleixandre Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Control: cancel <514f8o$a1e@fin.firstnations.ca> Subject: cmsg cancel <514f8o$a1e@fin.firstnations.ca> Date: 10 Sep 96 19:57:51 GMT Organization: First Nations Network Inc. Message-ID: <cancel.514f8o$a1e@fin.firstnations.ca> Article cancelled by news@service3.uky.edu.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT's SUCK.... Date: 10 Sep 1996 21:48:48 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <514no0$2ap@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <justin-1009961518130001@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> <514fmu$hs7@nuke.csu.net> In-Reply-To: <514fmu$hs7@nuke.csu.net> On 09/10/96, John Rudd wrote: > In <justin-1009961518130001@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Justin Slauson > wrote: > [] A NeXT sucks when you don't have an OS for them. > > I suspect any machine sucks when you don't have an OS for it. > > So, you're complaining about spending a grand total of $325 (after tax) on > this machine? Oh please... Just go out and buy the new 4.0 edition of the > software, and quit whining. > Hey, if $325 is too much, please feel free to send me the machine... tell you what, I'll even pay postage. Best wishes, mmalc. posn. research facilitator where institute for language speech and hearing sheffield university west court 2 mappin street sheffield s1 4dt england vox (+44) 114 282 5269 fax (+44) 114 278 0972 email m.crawford@dcs.shef.ac.uk NeXTMail, SunMail, MIME welcome PGP key available on request http://www.dcs.shef.ac.uk/research/ilash/ --
From: pixel8ed@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Pixelated Technologies) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FS:ISDN extenders for NeXT!! Date: 10 Sep 1996 20:38:40 -0700 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338) Message-ID: <515c80$1i8@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> NeXT dsp Hayes ISDN devices Perfect for building ISDN Gateway or programmable Voice mail systems These are Hayes NeXT ISDN extenders (shrink wrapped, new) that plug directly into the NeXT DSP port. NeXTSTEP 3.0 contained integrated ISDN and voicemail software and there is extensive documentaion in the developers documentation (version 3.0 of course).We sell them for $95. Beyond the description above, features depend on your particular ISDN service. In addition to the devel. docs. for 3.0, you can go to next.answers at the NeXT web site for info. That's all the info we have on them. We accept MasterCard, Visa, AMEX and we ship C.O.D. We ship via UPS, or FedEx if desired. Customer pays shipping. If you're interested in purchasing, or have questions about any of the above items, please reply to this address (pixel8ed@kaiwan.com), or call Pixelated Technologies at (213)-655-8622 or toll-free at 1-800-PIXEL-ME. -- Pixelated Technologies The source for NeXT and NeXTStep (415)-554-0546 1-800-PIXEL-ME
From: dennis@bibo.met.fu-berlin.de (Dennis Schulze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ISDN support for NeXTSTEP under Intel Date: 11 Sep 96 06:29:50 GMT Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin Message-ID: <dennis.842423390@bibo> Hello, is there or will there be support for passive ISDN cards under NeXTSTEP so that I can make a rawip or PPP connection? Even non-professional systems like Linux support that now... Regards, Dennis -- Dennis Schulze Free University of Berlin Department of Meteorology Email: dennis@bibo.met.fu-berlin.de http://www.met.fu-berlin.de/~dennis/ #include <standard.disclaimer>
From: davisre@best.com (Robert Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PS 2 EPS Date: 10 Sep 1996 23:35:33 -0700 Organization: floam Message-ID: <515mjl$3dv@shellx.best.com> References: <51465b$fbn@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Stephen J. Perkins <perkins@cps.msu.edu> wrote: > >I have created some beautiful graphs using Quantrix. Unfortunately, the only >way I've been able to get them to a file is by using Print->Save. The >results are nice postscript files. The problem is that I now want to import >these files into a TeX document. I have been able to get them to appear >using the epsf package, but the bounding box of the picture is the whole >page, not just the graph. > You can do this a couple of ways. One is to select everything in the chart, copy it (with Edit->Copy), paste it into Diagram, and choose Save To in Diagram. Or, you can select everything in the chart, copy it, paste it into a rich text document (in Edit or Mail or something), then drag it out of the rich text document into the Workspace File Viewer. I suppose a Save To... in Quantrix would make it all too easy. Rob -- Rob Davis Work: davis@lighthouse.com Home: davis@coaster.com
From: gquinonez Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Installing more Ram up to 64 mb problem Date: 11 Sep 1996 09:50:58 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <516222$1ii@paraguay.earthlink.net> Hello everyone, I just installed more ram from 16 to 64 MB. I read in the newsgroup someone having a similar problem with the system locking up. My system boots up regularly with 16 mb, when I installed the 64 mb my system locks up either of the following. starting early daemons: syslogd starting RPC and network services: portmap Sep 10 22:46:04 haemophilus syslog gd: /usr/adm/lpd-errs: No such file or directory netinfo lookupd Mounting remote filesystem starting file service daemons:. starting network daemons: inetd printer setting host name to haemophilus sep 10 22:57:10 haemophilus syslogd: going down on signal 15: no such file or directory erase^? intr^C kill^U Ive already checked and changed the video mapped memory to (0X4000000) using configure app apparently 64 mb. it was at its default with the 16 mb. However with 16 mb it works in either configutation.. WIth 64 mb i cant seem to boot up regardless without getting the above messages. I have the diamond stealth driver 2 mb Vram, adaptec 2940 scsi, award bios, and GMB-P54IPS motherboard, P90. any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, please respond to the email address below. Gerardo -- ============================================ G. Quinonez, M.D. quinonez@ucla.edu quinonez@earthlink.net __ /\__/\ \/__\/ NeXTMail/Sun/MIME Welcome http://www.emf.net/~ihouse/Alumni-pages/quinonez =============================================
From: gquinonez Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Installing more RAM, up to 64 Mb Date: 11 Sep 1996 09:49:43 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5161vn$1ii@paraguay.earthlink.net> Hello everyone, I just installed more ram from 16 to 64 MB. I read in the newsgroup someone having a similar problem with the system locking up. My system boots up regularly with 16 mb. When I installed the 64 mb my system locks up with either of the following on boot up. starting early daemons: syslogd starting RPC and network services: portmap Sep 10 22:46:04 haemophilus syslog gd: /usr/adm/lpd-errs: No such file or directory netinfo lookupd Mounting remote filesystem starting file service daemons:. starting network daemons: inetd printer or setting host name to haemophilus sep 10 22:57:10 haemophilus syslogd: going down on signal 15: no such file or directory erase^? intr^C kill^U Ive already checked and changed the video mapped memory to (0X4000000) using configure.app apparently 64 mb. it was at its default with the 16 mb. However with 16 mb it works in either configutation. WIth 64 mb i cant seem to boot up regardless without getting the above messages. I have the diamond stealth driver 2 mb Vram, adaptec 2940 scsi, award bios, and GMB-P54IPS motherboard, P90. any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gerardo -- ============================================ G. Quinonez, M.D. quinonez@ucla.edu quinonez@earthlink.net __ /\__/\ \/__\/ NeXTMail/Sun/MIME Welcome http://www.emf.net/~ihouse/Alumni-pages/quinonez =============================================
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SOLVED -- PS 2 EPS Date: 11 Sep 1996 11:52:55 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <51696n$123t@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <51465b$fbn@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <515mjl$3dv@shellx.best.com> Cc: davisre@best.com In <515mjl$3dv@shellx.best.com> Robert Davis wrote: > Stephen J. Perkins <perkins@cps.msu.edu> wrote: > > > >I have created some beautiful graphs using Quantrix. Unfortunately, the only > >way I've been able to get them to a file is by using Print->Save. The > >results are nice postscript files. The problem is that I now want to import > >these files into a TeX document. I have been able to get them to appear > >using the epsf package, but the bounding box of the picture is the whole > >page, not just the graph. > > > > I suppose a Save To... in Quantrix would make it all too easy. Wish I could. However, the best solution seems to be BBFig.app. I found this app (written by Izumi Ohzawa <izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu>) on the arcives. It calculates the bounding box (or lets you rubberband an area) and rewrites the postscript file to EPSF format. Thanks to all who pointed it out. A quick recompile to Intel architecture and things work great! Thanks for all the help folks! - Steve --- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: root@mathserv1.math.wisc.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT's SUCK.... Date: 11 Sep 1996 15:13:15 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <516kub$2tuo@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <justin-1009961518130001@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> In article <justin-1009961518130001@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> justin@stat.ohio-state.edu (Justin Slauson) writes: > A NeXT sucks when you don't have an OS for them. > ... Most computers suck w/o an OS. Some even still suck when they have one - Intel+Microsoft come to mind... :-) - Gareth (OK, so normally I don't waste bandwidth on people like this, but it was just too stupid a statement to pass up)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Stefan Kruger <stefan@cs.bris.ac.uk> Subject: where find tcsh binary ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3236FA7C.41C6@cs.bris.ac.uk> Sender: usenet@fsa.bris.ac.uk (Usenet) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: University of Bristol, England Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:44:28 GMT Hello, I'm looking for a NS3.3 (intel) binary for tcsh. Any ideas where I can find it ? TIA, stefan -- Stefan Kruger (stefan@cs.bris.ac.uk) Finger me for pgp public key. University of Bristol (http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/User/Stefan.Kruger)
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PS 2 EPS Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:36:59 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <DxKrDo.JyB@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <515mjl$3dv@shellx.best.com> Stephen J. Perkins <perkins@cps.msu.edu> wrote: > >I have created some beautiful graphs using Quantrix. Unfortunately, the only >way I've been able to get them to a file is by using Print->Save. The >results are nice postscript files. The problem is that I now want to import >these files into a TeX document. I have been able to get them to appear >using the epsf package, but the bounding box of the picture is the whole >page, not just the graph. So edit the bounding box! Seriously there is only one way to get diagrams looking _just_ the way you want them, and thats to edit the PS by hand. Changing fonts, captions, removing unwanted bits etc is all pretty easy using yapp, and a little trial and error. Bounding boxes are trivial: Open the file in edit. Somewhere near the top will be a line "%%BoundingBox" followed by four numbers (or prehaps the word atend in which case there's another BoundingBox line at the end). The numbers are the coordinates of the bottom left, and top right of the bounding box. Just edit them, save, and open the file inn preview. Tweak until they're as you require. If the BB line isn't there, then add one in. Look in a working eps file to get the idea. $an
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where find tcsh binary ? Date: 11 Sep 1996 19:48:30 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <51752e$bu6@news.digifix.com> References: <3236FA7C.41C6@cs.bris.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <3236FA7C.41C6@cs.bris.ac.uk> On 09/11/96, Stefan Kruger wrote: >Hello, >I'm looking for a NS3.3 (intel) binary for tcsh. Any ideas >where I can find it ? > >TIA, stefan I thought 3.3 shipped with tcsh? Anyways, there is a binary in ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: morehouse2@aol.com (Morehouse2) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Access to a cd-rom..help Date: 11 Sep 1996 21:18:08 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <517ocg$47m@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <50hv2e$fot@news1.Belgium.EU.net> If anybody finds this thing out there, I'd like to have Version 3.X on a Mag-Opt disk as well. Will send formatted MO disk to you if you can transfer the data! Thanks, Craig
From: dmd@asimov.oit.umass.edu (Daniel M. Drucker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,alt.sysadmin.recovery Subject: Re: NeXT's SUCK.... Date: 11 Sep 1996 21:48:53 -0400 Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst Message-ID: <517q65$fuc@asimov.oit.umass.edu> References: <justin-1009961518130001@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> <514fmu$hs7@nuke.csu.net> kzin@isc.sjsu.edu wrote: >> A NeXT sucks when you don't have an OS for them. > I suspect any machine sucks when you don't have an OS for it. In my experience, a machine only sucks when you *do* have an OS for it. -- [ Daniel M. Drucker / dmd@3e.org ] dreams windblown and scattered among the grass and sand
From: Joakim Johansson <jocke@rat.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PS 2 EPS Date: 11 Sep 1996 18:49:15 GMT Organization: Research & Trade AB Distribution: world Message-ID: <5171jb$rlv@baldwin.rat.se> References: <DxKrDo.JyB@cam-ani.co.uk> Ian Stephenson writes > Stephen J. Perkins <perkins@cps.msu.edu> wrote: > > > >I have created some beautiful graphs using Quantrix. Unfortunately, > the only > >way I've been able to get them to a file is by using Print->Save. The > >results are nice postscript files. The problem is that I now want to > import > >these files into a TeX document. I have been able to get them to > appear > >using the epsf package, but the bounding box of the picture is the > whole > >page, not just the graph. > > Seriously there is only one way to get diagrams looking _just_ the way > you want them, and thats to edit the PS by hand. Changing fonts, > captions, removing unwanted bits etc is all pretty easy using yapp, and > a little trial and error. (the above works fine, but is a little cumbersome if you have to do it for multiple diagrams...) You might consider buying a copy of Tailor, which allows you to do this in a simple way. (just load your PS file, select the parts that you want as EPS and save the selection... works great) Cheers, Joakim -- Joakim Johansson Software Developer, Research & Trade jocke@rat.se <NeXTmail, MIME> http://www.rat.se/
From: haberlaa@ucs.orst.edu (Adam Haberlach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,alt.sysadmin.recovery Subject: Re: NeXT's SUCK.... Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:49:52 GMT Organization: Oregon State University Message-ID: <519eq1$spi@engr.orst.edu> References: <justin-1009961518130001@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> <514fmu$hs7@nuke.csu.net> <517q65$fuc@asimov.oit.umass.edu> dmd@asimov.oit.umass.edu (Daniel M. Drucker) wrote: >kzin@isc.sjsu.edu wrote: >>> A NeXT sucks when you don't have an OS for them. >> I suspect any machine sucks when you don't have an OS for it. >In my experience, a machine only sucks when you *do* have an OS for >it. I thought that the OS Sucked. Period. But by installing it on your machine, you at least double the Lovelace value of the suckage. --- "Interestingly, most Unix utilities have a command line option which will cause the system to rip the user's legs off and beat them to death with the soggy ends. This is often the default behaviour." -Bruce Murphy // Adam Haberlach haberlaa@ucs.orst.edu // www.testlab.orst.edu/~haberlaa
From: "Art Taylor" <artt@nobeltec.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,alt.sysadmin.recovery Subject: Re: NeXT's SUCK.... Date: 12 Sep 1996 18:16:35 GMT Organization: Nobeltec Corp. Message-ID: <01bba0d6$d4fb38e0$2c7ab6cc@artt1.nobeltec.com> References: <justin-1009961518130001@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> <514fmu$hs7@nuke.csu.net> <517q65$fuc@asimov.oit.umass.edu> <519eq1$spi@engr.orst.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, a NeXT without an OS is the only computer that doesn't suck. It looks so bloody cool.
From: mgilula@gate.net (Marshall Gilula) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Canon OS.41 and GUS snd card difficulties Date: 12 Sep 1996 09:43:11 -0400 Organization: CyberGate, Inc. Message-ID: <51941f$1e54@seminole.gate.net> NNTP-Posting-User: mgilula My Class GUS Snd Card is giving me a very difficult time in the Canon OS.41 and I would appreciate any helpx or advice to my private email address (mgilula@gate.net) if possible. The Snd card actually goes into the slot in the hi-riser card of the Object Station which contains the built-in (Oak Technology)Mozart card, which is very low quality and difficult to disable. The BusLogic SCSI uses IRQ 11 and I keep getting IRQ incompatibilities when I attempt to install the GUS, even with W95, which is now running on the Canon with little problem except for no sound. At some point in the past I was able to run the GUS in W3.11 but never in DOS. My technical friends are unable to assist, and they only blather about the Canon machine being a great machine for running NEXTSTEP (it is) but not a very good machine for running DOS or W (I hope to disagree). I know that Canon has quit supporting NEXTSTEP (this is another issue not germane to this post, though) Anyone with technical expertise willing to share their experience or information ? My budget is too bullet-ridden to be able to afford to replace the quirky Canon CPU with a more standard 486/586/686 at the present time. I wonder whether disabling the low-quality OAK Technology Mozart would even help as the SCSI controller appears to be one of the problems as well. TIA, -73- Marshall (mgilula@gate.net) :wq! -- Marshall F. Gilula, M.D "El que mucho busca nada encuentra, pero mgilula@gate.net el que nada busca mucho encuentra" http://www.gate.net/~mgilula Carpe resurrectionem mortuorum VirtualVirtual Reality, Music, and Medical Science
From: hassan@ssnet.com (Hassan Kelley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SCSI2 -> SCSI1 How? Date: 12 Sep 1996 19:07:54 -0400 Organization: SSNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <51a54a$irk@marlin.ssnet.com> I just but this MicrApolis 4221 HD and I can't put it in async mode? There is no info about how to do this on there web site. Does anyone know how to do this. Or better yet, does anyone know of a good size drive that with out any doubt works on black hardware? Hassan
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: GNUstep/MediaBook Developer CD-ROM OUT!!! Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:58:29 -0500 Organization: Illinois State University- Instructional Technology Services Message-ID: <3238B1A7.46C6@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WOW, check it out at: http://www.net-community.com GNUstep/MediaBook Developer CD CD purchase Price: $30 The purchase of the CD-ROM comes with installation support; resolution of problems concerning installation of the software from the CD onto the user's system as well as help with basic setup tasks comes free of charge. Summary description of CD contents GNU Objective-C compiler and many GNU binary utilities The well known GNU compiler with the most up-to-date enhancements to the Objective-C Runtime Library. GNUstep Base Library A library of general-purpose, non-graphical Objective-C classes. It includes classes for strings, collections, byte streams, typed coders, invocations, notifications, notification dispatchers, times, network ports, remote object messaging support (distributed objects), event loops, and random number generators. GNUstep GUI Library The frontend library of general-purpose, graphical Objective-C classes. It includes classes for events, fonts, colors, applications, menus, windows, views, controls such as buttons, textfields, rich text, sliders, and popup buttons. A backend library is required for a specific graphics system. GNUstep GUI X/DPS Backend A backend library for the X/Windows graphics system. Work is continuing to interface with the Display Ghostscript System so that a completely full-functional postscript imaging system will be available. MediaBook WIN32 Backend A backend library for the Win32 API. MediaBook Objective-C Random Library A freely distributable set of Objective-C classes for psuedo-random number generators and distributions. MediaBook Objective-C 3D Graphics Library A library of 3D graphical Objective-C classes based on top of OpenGL and integrated with the GNUstep GUI Library. It includes classes for lights, shape hierarchies, polygons, polyhedrons, rendering and viewpoint control, and graphical primitives such as cones, cylinders, spheres, and points. Also includes a parser for the Manchester Scene Description language (MSDL) and the Virtual Reality Modelling Language (VRML) Version 1.0 specification. MediaBook Objective-C Speech Synthesis Library A library of Objective-C classes for text to speech synthesis. Currently supports the Eloquent speech synthesis engine and is only available for Microsoft Windows NT and Windows 95. NET-Community is committed to developing and supporting free software. Five dollars from the sale of each CD will goes towards the continued development of GNUstep. Please support free software. ---------------------------------------- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ASCII, MIME, SUN or NeXT Mail; PGP ok. * PGP public key available, send mail with subj "Send PGP Key" Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University Understanding is best learned via experience ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: Jon Day <jonday@wpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Sonblaster AWE32 in NeXT? Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 08:48:25 -0400 Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960913084211.27355B-100000@wpi.WPI.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi folks: Thanks to all the people who responded to my posting about the Win95/NeXT dual boot problem. All my problems are fixed! I have some other questions: Has anyone sucessfully used the Sound Blaster AWE32 (either PnP or Non-PnP) in NeXT sucessfully? I am planning to add a sound card to my system (actually it is the last needed component to a new system I built this summer) and wanted to know if it works under NeXT v4.0. NeXT answers suggests that it is so but I am left with an uneasy feeling about buying it. Any comments here is appreciated. Also, I have a Roland SCC-1 MPU-401 Midi Interface and wanted to know if there exists any drivers for NeXT so I can play Midi files under the NeXT OS. Is there a programming kit available (I have the developer tool suite)? Regards, Jonathan P. Day Worcester Polytechnic Institute Electrical & Computer Engineering WWW: http://www.wpi.edu/~jonday/
From: hsla@irene.mit.edu (LA, HOSEONG) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: No devices detected at 0x170 Date: 13 Sep 1996 13:54 EST Organization: MIT Lab for Nuclear Science Distribution: world Message-ID: <13SEP199613541552@irene.mit.edu> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.50 Hi, there. I just installed OS4.0 on Intel. Two questions. Frist, installation went through smoothly, but the same CD-ROM drive is no longer detected when it is connected to the secondary controller. I did follow the ISA installation procedure, i.e. configure first, then connect it. My system is Dell Dimension XPS P90, Two onboard IDE controllers: Primary PCI/EIDE and seconday ISA/IDE, One EIDE 1.6 GB hard disk as master and one IDE .54 GB hd as slave are connected to the primary PCI controller. SB16 soundcard with Panasonic 2X CD-ROM connected to the soundcard (This CD-ROM drive is not recognized any way) ATAPI/EIDE Chinon CDS-585 (8X) CD-ROM drive, Mode 1,2, Data transfer 16-bit PIO Mode, DMA Mode (this is used for installation and now connected to the onboard secondary ISA controller, but undetected.) The 1.6 GB HD has two partitions, one with Windows95 installed and another OPENSTEP4.0, both are operating OK. By the way, Win95 recognizes all of them(two harddisks and both CD-ROM drives!). I tried all the possible EIDE drivers, although the system auto-recognized PCTech RZ1000 PCI controller. I even tried to force-recognize! None of these succeeded to recognize anything at port 0x170. Second quesion, the slave 540 MB IDE drive appears at the Workspace only during the first login. Once I logout and login again, it disappears. If I reboot, it appears again for first login. Then it goes away. One odd thing is, when I first login, the console message is something like "... \dev\rhd1h... \disklabel_2...device busy,...giving up." This disklabel is precisely the label for the 540 MB IDE slave harddisk. During the second login, no such messages appear. If I force-mount, the disk appears as a folder. I will be really grateful, if anyone can rescue my CD-ROM drive and 540 MB. Many thanks in advance. Hoseong La
From: jenr@Eng.Sun.COM (Jennifer Rice) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Lighthouse/SUN Date: 13 Sep 1996 21:44:25 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <51ckjp$mn2@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> All positions located in San Mateo, California. Lighthouse Design, a newly acquired Sun Microsystems, Inc. business, is a leading innovator in Internet/Intranet development tools and productivity applications. If you're interested in creating, marketing or selling next generation products and development tools for Javat, OpenStep and the Web, Lighthouse Design is at the forefront of this burgeoning marketplace. For more info on our technology, visit our Web site at: www.lighthouse.com. Java/OpenStep Application Engineer Responsible for OO programming, Obj-C/C++/Java, Solarisr/WinNT and NeXTSTEP. Requires experience in creating shipping products, and a taste for small, highly energized teams. Knowledge of productivity applications (as user or developer), 1+ years of experience and a BA/BSCS preferred. Job Code: JOAE Java/OpenStep Application Development Managers You will work with OO programming, Obj-C/C++/Java, Solaris and NeXTSTEP. Requires a minimum 2 years of experience managing a group of at least 4 people, experience in managing shipping products, and the ability to manage/motivate small teams. A BS/MSCS or equivalent is preferred, as is knowledge of productivity applications (as user or creator). Job Code: JOADM Software Quality Assurance Manager Qualifications include experience in testing, specifically on software for a shipping product, client/server development, test automation; the ability to manage, create and execute test plans and a minimum of 2 years of experience managing a group of at least 4 people. Requires solid software QA practice and communication skills. A BS/MSCS or equivalent is preferred. Job Code: SQAM Software Quality Assurance Engineer Requires experience with OO programming and C++/Java, plus solid software QA practices and solid communication skills. You must have the ability to create and execute test plans, and possess an aptitude for troubleshooting and working in a team environment. Experience with client/ server development and test automation is preferred, as is a BA/BSCS or equivalent. Job Code: SQAE Java Product Development Managers You will manage design/development of Java applications and components for a broad product line. You'll also have the opportunity to guide next generation Internet application development. Requires a BA/BSCS, a background with OO programming, Java/C++/Obj-C (architecture preferred), a minimum of 2 years' experience managing a group of at least 4 Engineers and creating/shipping products. Knowledge of productivity applications (as user or developer) is preferred. Job Code: JPDM System Administrator Assist in supporting the day-to-day operations of the company. This will include Web site maintenance, writing of tools, helping users find solutions to their problems, user accounts, back-up maintenance, installing new versions of software and FTP site maintenance. Requires a BS in a related field; 1-3 years of experience; strong skills in C/C++, OO technologies, UNIXr, HTML and web site maintenance. Experience in system admin., NT/Solaris/Java, PC hardware installation and OpenStep/NeXTSTEP a plus. Job Code: SA Technical Writer Primary responsibilities include documenting object-based software tools, creating whitepapers and other technical marketing materials. Requires 3+ years of relevant experience, software documenting experience, an understanding of OO technology (some programming experience with Java, C++, Obj- C, or SmallTalkr preferred), as well as excellent writing skills. Job Code: TW Sales Systems Engineer This position requires 3-5 years of relevant experience, OO programming experience, knowledge of software development tools and market, as well as Java, Obj-C or other OO languages. Job Code: SSE Sales Representative Requires knowledge of software industry trends, OO and Java development tools. Requirements also include 5+ years of relevant experience and advanced technical selling skills. Job Code: SR Graphic Designer This position requires Web design experience, user interface knowledge, experience with Adobe Photoshopr, Illustratorr or equivalent package, as well as a productivity software background. Human Computer Interaction (HCI) experience is a plus. Job Code: GD Play an important part in the development of Sun's OpenStep programming environment. Working with a small group, you will make strong contributions from working with the original NeXT source to designing new code and functionality. OpenStep Application Engineer Requires a BSCS or equivalent and OO programming, C++, Solaris and NeXTSTEP experience. Job Code: OAE OpenStep AppKit Engineer Requires a background in OO programming, ToolKit design, XWindows and NeXTSTEP and a MSCS or equivalent. Job Code: OAE2 OpenStep Compiler Engineer Requires an MSCS and Obj-C/C++ Compiler and Solaris experience. Job Code: OCE For consideration, please send your resume, INDICATING JOB CODE, to: Sun Microsystems, Inc., 2550 Garcia Ave., Dept. NSF0908AB/JR, M/S MPK16-203, Mountain View, CA 94043-1100; or email to staffing33@bruin.corp.sun.com or fax to (415) 786-9556. Sun is proud to ensure that equal talent always gets equal opportunity.
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PS 2 EPS Date: 14 Sep 1996 05:33:09 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. Message-ID: <51dg2l$n3f@ralph.vnet.net> References: <515mjl$3dv@shellx.best.com> Robert Davis writes > Stephen J. Perkins <perkins@cps.msu.edu> wrote: > > > >I have created some beautiful graphs using Quantrix. Unfortunately, the only > >way I've been able to get them to a file is by using Print->Save. The > >results are nice postscript files. The problem is that I now want to import > >these files into a TeX document. I have been able to get them to appear > >using the epsf package, but the bounding box of the picture is the whole > >page, not just the graph. > > > > You can do this a couple of ways. One is to select everything in the > chart, copy it (with Edit->Copy), paste it into Diagram, and choose > Save To in Diagram. > > Or, you can select everything in the chart, copy it, paste it into a > rich text document (in Edit or Mail or something), then drag it out of > the rich text document into the Workspace File Viewer. > > > I suppose a Save To... in Quantrix would make it all too easy. > Rob > -- > Rob Davis Work: davis@lighthouse.com Home: davis@coaster.com One more way: Copy Graphic (command-k). Best regards, Roland Telfeyan roland@telf.com
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SOLVED -- PS 2 EPS Date: 14 Sep 1996 05:37:17 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. Message-ID: <51dgad$n46@ralph.vnet.net> References: <51696n$123t@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hi All, There's still another answer ... Tailor ... one of the greatest apps on the planet! Tailor is a PostScript editor that let's you take a raw PS or EPS file (created on ANY platform) and edit it like a draw/illustration program. It can also save back out EPS images with bitmap screen preview information for both Mac and Winblows. You can edit the multiple pages of a PS document, copy selections, paste them into new EPS documents, edit text, you name it. Best regards, Roland Telfeyan roland@telf.com
From: davisre@best.com (Robert Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PS 2 EPS Date: 14 Sep 1996 00:53:03 -0700 Organization: floam Message-ID: <51do8v$lku@shellx.best.com> References: <515mjl$3dv@shellx.best.com> <51dg2l$n3f@ralph.vnet.net> Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com> wrote: > >One more way: Copy Graphic (command-k). > Nope, "Copy As Graphic" doesn't save a chart as EPS. In fact, it isn't enabled when the current selection is in a chart. Use it to copy part of the spreadsheet to the pasteboard as EPS. If you want to put a chart on the pasteboard as EPS, just plain old "Copy" will work fine, but the original question was how to get EPS to a file. See the other posts for plenty of ways. Rob -- Rob Davis Work: davis@lighthouse.com Home: davis@coaster.com
From: leonvs (Leon von Stauber) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Again: What to do with a NextStation? Date: 14 Sep 1996 12:44:08 GMT Organization: Occam's Razor Distribution: inet Message-ID: <51e9ao$f45@hackberry.zilker.net> References: <32297CBB.4E13@mailbox.postnet.se> <323326A7.180F@mailbox.postnet.se> Cc: hans.becker@mailbox.postnet.se In <323326A7.180F@mailbox.postnet.se> Hans Becker wrote: > My original question was if someone had any good ideas of what to do > with the machine if you don´t program. I have not stayed tuned to the > developments in the Next area for the last 2 years, so I am not familiar > with the software packages out there. My original idea was to convert > the machine to an Internet terminal, but I do not know which software to > use for that purpose. Any good Java virtual machines out there? > > What useful software should I load the machine with if I am going to use > the Next station as a good and fun home computer? I've been using NeXTs at home for over 5 years. I meant to do some dev work on it, but I haven't done as much as I planned. Still, it would pain me to use anything else. For Internet use, I have the ppp-2.2 package, RadicalNews, NeXTmail, OmniWeb (useful, but not so great in greyscale, or over a 14.4 modem), GatorFTP, PopOver (to POP mail), PPPMonitor, and WebMapper (to make imagemaps). Seems like I've heard something about a JVM, but I couldn't tell you for sure. I also use it for word processing (Edit, WriteNow, and (ecch!) WordPerfect). I use Lotus Improv to keep track of finances, Date for personal scheduling, Rolonex to keep addresses and phone numbers, WideScreen for virtual workspaces, the Fiend dock extender, Webster, a few games (Solitaire, Mah Jongg, Go, etc.) and so on. If you have Internet access by another route, you can get most of the above software as freeware, shareware, or demoware at ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/ ____________________________________________________________________ Leon von Stauber http://www.occam.com/leonvs/ Occam's Razor, Game Designer <leonvs@occam.com> PSW Technologies, System Administrator <leonvs@pswtech.com> Zilker Internet Park, WebDev/Programmer/SA <leonvs@zilker.net> "We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!"
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (BongOk Kim (kornet)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXTSTEP forum of Korean online network Date: 14 Sep 1996 14:36:06 GMT Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <51efsm$f88@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> NEXTSTEP forum of Korean online network. Recently, Korean Nextstep users opened NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP forum in online communication service HITEL which is one of the biggest data communication service companies. Hitel has around 300,000 members and it provides online service of various data communications that include mailing service, various forum, chatting, news and information etc. OPENstep forum which was organized at the beginning of August treats NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/OBJECT ORIENTED has 20 related BBs and data rooms (?). If you have Korean communication emulator , you can have access to HITEL by "telnet gohitel.kol.co.kr" or "telnet ipaddress(pls fill in ip address(?))". Pls note HITEL is chargeable for the connection. Once you get the connection, you can enjoy OPENSTEP forum using "go step" command. We are very pleased to anounce that NEXTMANIA organized NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP and take action. The followings are the BB that openstep forum runs. OPENSTEP FORUM Forum administrator : Kil, YoungHoon ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Deputy Forum administrator : Chang, SeokJin : miyu@star.elim.net Representatives : 1. Member information 2. Notice 3. Mail to Forum administrator 4. Chatting room : Lee, Haram : HaramLee 5. Data room : Seo, Hakwon : fromone 6. Data room BB : Han, Seunghoon : giraffe 7. Free board sell/buy : Kim, Jeongwoo : JAENGWOO with beginners : Cheong, Jaesik : jessy NeXaMo Sig meeting : Office/Groupware : Lee, Haram : HaramLee Multimedia : Cha, Eunho : Molla 8. Company : Ahn, Hikyung : dalvit 9. New updates : Chang Seokjin : Miyu 10.Openstep Q/A : Han, Kyuil : Leomir 11.Object Oriented programming : Park, Jongwan : js1993 12.NT/Solaris/GnuSTEP : Hwang, Kyungju : oq910330 13.Internet/Network : Park, Jungkun : half8man 14.Session/FAQ documentation/ Tips for building/Tips for usage :Lee, Haram : HaramLee
From: Sara Trimble <trimble@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TRIPLE BOOT with NT 4.0 Workstation, WAS: Dual Boot Win95 & NeXT Date: 15 Sep 1996 00:43:19 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <51fjf7$f85@nntp5.u.washington.edu> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960905135159.28073A-100000@wpi.WPI.EDU> <50oogv$5dm@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> <3232FBC2.2297@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <50vkkr$53n@big.aa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: jclemens@big.aa.net Hi - I and roomate, we got a brand new Pentium Pro and would like to put nextstep 3.3 and linux on it. We need to put DOS 6.22, windows95 and NT (3.51 and/or 4.0) on it also. Right now we got 1 2.1GB hard disk. What's the best way to partition the disk (primary, extended/logic partitions?) and where to put these OSes on? It's been quite confusing. Do we need another hard drive or is it better/easier to have a second hard drive? If you can give us any advice, we'd really appreciate it. Much thanks! Sara P.S. some tech support people thought it's crazy to put so many OSes on. Well, we like UNIX flavor and work places use windows!
From: "Robert D. Budd" <rbudd@voyager.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: News: Get NeXTSTEP look and feel in Windows Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 03:28:01 -0400 Organization: Voyager Information Networks, Inc. Message-ID: <323BB001.42AF@voyager.net> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bo Yang wrote: > I havn't seen your work but it sounds fantastic. You'll need some good hackers > to patch the Win95 binary and make the windows look like NeXTSTEP as well. > But that's possible, and once I had a vision of gethering some Chinese hackers > and get this dirty job going (We're good at patching up binaries. :-). well, > at least to make the English applications compitable with Chinese language.) > but, what the heck, NeXTSTEP window bars with Win95 widgets might simply look > awful. I think it would be killer to have an app that would emulate the NeXTSTEP window bars under Win95. I haven't seen any kinda of Widget support for Win95 is this possible?
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: PS 2 EPS Date: 15 Sep 1996 01:52:36 GMT Organization: Telf Design Corp. Message-ID: <51fnh4$6p4@ralph.vnet.net> References: <515mjl$3dv@shellx.best.com> Robert Davis writes > You can do this a couple of ways. One is to select everything in the > chart, copy it (with Edit->Copy), paste it into Diagram, and choose > Save To in Diagram. > > Or, you can select everything in the chart, copy it, paste it into a > rich text document (in Edit or Mail or something), then drag it out of > the rich text document into the Workspace File Viewer. There's still one more convenient way to get EPS from your pasteboard to a file... Paste the EPS into Preview and then Save As. Best regards, Roland Telfeyan roland@telf.com
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TRIPLE BOOT with NT 4.0 Workstation, WAS: Dual Boot Win95 & NeXT Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 23:12:43 -0500 Organization: Illinois State University- Instructional Technology Services Message-ID: <323CD192.72F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960905135159.28073A-100000@wpi.WPI.EDU> <50oogv$5dm@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> <3232FBC2.2297@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <50vkkr$53n@big.aa.net> <51fjf7$f85@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Sara Trimble <trimble@u.washington.edu> For starters, you can try the System Commander, see: http://www.v-com.com/ Hope this helps a little... -Eric Sara Trimble wrote: > > Hi - > > I and roomate, we got a brand new Pentium Pro and would like to put > nextstep 3.3 and linux on it. We need to put DOS 6.22, windows95 and NT > (3.51 and/or 4.0) on it also. Right now we got 1 2.1GB hard disk. What's > the best way to partition the disk (primary, extended/logic partitions?) > and where to put these OSes on? It's been quite confusing. Do we need > another hard drive or is it better/easier to have a second hard drive? > > If you can give us any advice, we'd really appreciate it. > Much thanks! > > Sara > P.S. some tech support people thought it's crazy to put so many OSes on. > Well, we like UNIX flavor and work places use windows! -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ASCII, MIME, SUN or NeXT Mail; PGP ok. ytalk: eadubie@138.87.201.11 * PGP public key available, send mail with subj "Send PGP Key" Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University "Intelligence is the ultimate aphrodisiac." - Tim Leary ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: avatar@arkane.demon.co.uk (Alistair Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,alt.sysadmin.recovery,arkane.replies Subject: Re: NeXT's SUCK.... Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 10:33:40 GMT Organization: Arkane Systems Sender: avatar@esther.arkane.net Message-ID: <c0.9q.2CFrKJ$0Kh@esther.arkane.net> References: <justin-1009961518130001@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> In <01bba0d6$d4fb38e0$2c7ab6cc@artt1.nobeltec.com>, "Art Taylor" <artt@nobeltec.com> writes: >Actually, a NeXT without an OS is the only computer that doesn't suck. > >It looks so bloody cool. Without an OS, it can't be the only computer that doesn't suck, as without an OS it is effectively no longer a computer, but a coffee table. I have no knowledge as to how much it may or may not suck in that area. Alistair P.S. Anyone in the UK wanting to sell one second-hand, and cheaply, mail me. Thanks. -- Arkane Systems Sysimperator, dominus regis deusque machinarum. e-mail: avatar@arkane.demon.co.uk Phone: +44 (1833) 638233 (10am-9pm GMT) sloth@bofh.net WWW: http://www.arkane.demon.co.uk/ The opinions above ARE my company's, because I OWN it! [Team OS/2]
From: vhs@nextone.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Sonblaster AWE32 in NeXT? Date: 16 Sep 1996 10:47:13 GMT Organization: Bull AG, Langen Message-ID: <51jb7h$a9v@www.langen.bull.de> References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960913084211.27355B-100000@wpi.WPI.EDU> Cc: jonday@wpi.edu In <Pine.OSF.3.95.960913084211.27355B-100000@wpi.WPI.EDU> Jon Day wrote: > Hi folks: > > Thanks to all the people who responded to my posting about the Win95/NeXT > dual boot problem. All my problems are fixed! > > I have some other questions: > > Has anyone sucessfully used the Sound Blaster AWE32 (either PnP or > Non-PnP) in NeXT sucessfully? I have installed an SB32 PnP. All I had to do was use the latest SB driver from NeXTAnswers and hack the PnP ID into Configure.app in Expert mode. The PnP ID is displayed while booting in verbose mode. You should also be able find it in /usr/adm/messages. Volker
From: pir@bofh.org.uk (Peter Radcliffe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,alt.sysadmin.recovery,arkane.replies Subject: Re: NeXT's SUCK.... Date: 16 Sep 1996 12:38:48 GMT Organization: Genetic oddities against implied capitalisation. Message-ID: <51jhoo$oir@wave.news.pipex.net> References: <justin-1009961518130001@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> <c0.9q.2CFrKJ$0Kh@esther.arkane.net> Alistair Young <avatar@arkane.demon.co.uk> probably said: >"Art Taylor" <artt@nobeltec.com> writes: >>Actually, a NeXT without an OS is the only computer that doesn't suck. >>It looks so bloody cool. > >Without an OS, it can't be the only computer that doesn't suck, as >without an OS it is effectively no longer a computer, but a coffee >table. We have a nice little computer at work called coffee-table. If Nicolai can fix it after the removal people broke it (hardware error on boot) and it gets a real OS on it, that will be its name ... at the moment it is just a coffee table[1]. \pir [1] MicroVAX. Just the right size/height for a coffee table. -- pir pir@surfers.org.uk pir@bofh.org.uk peterra@uunet.pipex.com
Message-ID: <323D8D4D.DA5@village.yvv.com> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 10:24:29 -0700 From: Nicholas Applegate <napple@village.yvv.com> Organization: Huh? MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TRIPLE BOOT with NT 4.0 Workstation, WAS: Dual Boot Win95 & NeXT References: <Pine.OSF.3.95.960905135159.28073A-100000@wpi.WPI.EDU> <50oogv$5dm@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> <3232FBC2.2297@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <50vkkr$53n@big.aa.net> <51fjf7$f85@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I belive the NeXT Step/ Open Step FAQ explains this quite nicely. I belive it's at peanuts.leo.org Hope this helps! Nick A. Sara Trimble wrote: > > Hi - > > I and roomate, we got a brand new Pentium Pro and would like to put > nextstep 3.3 and linux on it. We need to put DOS 6.22, windows95 and NT > (3.51 and/or 4.0) on it also. Right now we got 1 2.1GB hard disk. What's > the best way to partition the disk (primary, extended/logic partitions?) > and where to put these OSes on? It's been quite confusing. Do we need > another hard drive or is it better/easier to have a second hard drive? > > If you can give us any advice, we'd really appreciate it. > Much thanks! > > Sara > P.S. some tech support people thought it's crazy to put so many OSes on. > Well, we like UNIX flavor and work places use windows!
From: ehutch@hypnos.norden1.com (E. Hutchinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.jobs.contract Subject: NEXTSTEP/Contract/Long Term/Va + ILL Date: 16 Sep 1996 14:33:12 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Message-ID: <51jof8$njf@tofu.alt.net> Programmer/analyst/developer NEXTSTEP Objective C EOF--A Plus Contract---Long Term AREAS------VA + ILL Must Be----US Citizen or Greencard Must Have --Good Communicatiuon Skills To Be Considered--Fax resume or mail a hard copy. -- ehutch@norden1.com (419) 893-6367 [fax] Omni Search (419) 893-6334 [voice] 1310 Craig Maumee, Ohio 43537
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From: UDSD007@DSIBM.OKLADOT.STATE.OK.US (Mike.Andrews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,alt.sysadmin.reco Subject: Re: NeXT's SUCK.... Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:12 Organization: The University of Oklahoma (USA) Sender: MVS NNTP News Reader <NNMVS@DSIBM.OKLADOT.STATE.OK.US> Message-ID: <19960917141216UDSD007@DSIBM.OKLADOT.STATE.OK.US> References: <323E06DC.73EE@gippstafe.vic.edu.au> In article <323E06DC.73EE@gippstafe.vic.edu.au>, Tony Ellis <aje@gippstafe.vic.edu.au> writes: >We have a MicroVAX II that we've gutted and are putting a bar fridge in. >Does that make it a really cool computer?[1] It beats the IBM System 370 Model 168 pigpen (with garnet covers) that a fella at some Uni in Kansas had: they ordered covers in the school colors, IBM said "Garnet will do", it didn't, and IBM paid to have the new covers custom-painted. The old ones were up for grabs, and the head of Ops., who ran a pig farm as a sideline{1}, grabbed them. They were visible from Interstate 70 if you knew where to look. {1} (This footnote left intentionally blank.) -- Mike Andrews Mike.Andrews@dsibm.okladot.state.ok.us Mgr., Tech. Support & Ops. Okla. Dept. of Transportation
From: jlindqui@uiuc.edu (Jason Lindquist) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,alt.sysadmin.recovery,arkane.replies Subject: Re: NeXT's SUCK.... Date: 17 Sep 1996 18:29:29 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <51mqm9$oe8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <justin-1009961518130001@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> <c0.9q.2CFrKJ$0Kh@esther.arkane.net> <51jhoo$oir@wave.news.pipex.net> Originator: jlindqui@delphi.beckman.uiuc.edu pir@bofh.org.uk (Peter Radcliffe) writes: >We have a nice little computer at work called coffee-table. >If Nicolai can fix it after the removal people broke it (hardware error >on boot) and it gets a real OS on it, that will be its name ... at the >moment it is just a coffee table[1]. >[1] MicroVAX. Just the right size/height for a coffee table. IBM RS/6000 PowerServers make rather nice end tables... such was the fate of elvis.ncsa.uiuc.edu... JL -- Jason A. Lindquist Does my MUU-MUU fill you with LOATHING? linky@uiuc.edu <*> -- Zippy the Pinhead Unsolicited commercial/propaganda e-mail subject to standard consulting fees.
From: Avram Cheaney <avram+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WriteNow -> PC conversion ?? Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:36:47 -0400 Organization: Computer Science Department, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <UmDnMDi00iWTQCcLMv@andrew.cmu.edu> Hello. My boss has about 800 WriteNow 2.0 documents on his NeXt (from a long time ago).. I have to get them over to some sort of PC readable form, I.E. .RTF, .DOC or HTML. I don't really know a thing about NeXt.. I see that it is possible to "Save As" to .RTF in WriteNow, but I don't want to do this 800 times. Is it possible to automate such a thing on the NeXt? Ideally there would be some kind of a command line tool that I could use to make a script. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. Please CC: to my email.
From: rwgk@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Ralf W. Grosse-Kunstleve) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: where find tcsh binary ? Date: 18 Sep 1996 11:26:01 -0400 Organization: MB&B & HHMI Sender: rwgk@volta.csb.yale.edu Message-ID: <5t4tkvj14m.fsf@volta.csb.yale.edu> References: <3236FA7C.41C6@cs.bris.ac.uk> In-reply-to: Stefan Kruger's message of Wed, 11 Sep 1996 17:44:28 GMT Have a look at ftp://xplor.csb.yale.edu/pub/local/rwgk/tcsh-6.06/ You'll find NS 3.2 tcsh-6.06 binaries for m68k and hppa. I also compiled tcsh-6.06 with Nextstep 3.3. I'm not 100% sure that I didn't confuse something, but I got exactly the same tcsh binary as for 3.2.
From: colinj@math.math.unm.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TeXview and teTeX, TeXview can't find fonts Date: 18 Sep 1996 14:13:55 GMT Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Distribution: world Message-ID: <51p033$hlg@lynx.unm.edu> I have just installed teTeX on my OpenStep system (black hardware). TeXview was in the NextDeveloper/Demos section. When ever I try and use it to view a DVI file it complains about not being able to find fonts or be able to open the tfm files. Will TeXview only work with certain .tfm files? Is there someplace special that it should be looking for them? teTeX has a full set of .tfm files for all of the fonts. I'd like to be able to view the documents that I create. Anyone have any suggestions on what I might do? thanks -- "Now my life is better than an ABBA song" - Muriel, "Muriel's Wedding" Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TeXview and teTeX, TeXview can't find fonts Date: 19 Sep 1996 02:11:26 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Message-ID: <51qa4e$f58@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <51p033$hlg@lynx.unm.edu> In-Reply-To: <51p033$hlg@lynx.unm.edu> The TeXview shipped by NeXT does not support Kpath(?). That is why it could not find those fonts. To use teTeX, you need to get a new version of TeXview from Germany site. Hope this can help. On 09/18/96, Colin Eric Johnson wrote: >I have just installed teTeX on my OpenStep system (black hardware). >TeXview was in the NextDeveloper/Demos section. When ever I try and >use it to view a DVI file it complains about not being able to find >fonts or be able to open the tfm files. > >Will TeXview only work with certain .tfm files? Is there someplace >special that it should be looking for them? teTeX has a full set of >..tfm files for all of the fonts. I'd like to be able to view the >documents that I create. Anyone have any suggestions on what I might >do? > >thanks > >-- >"Now my life is better than an ABBA song" - Muriel, "Muriel's Wedding" >Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ > -- ---------------- Yuwen Cheng University of Arizona, Math yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: pcapitai@de.oracle.com (Pit Capitain) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Looking for NeXTSTEP Projects Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:06:14 GMT Organization: Oracle Deutschland GmbH Distribution: inet Message-ID: <51r2iv$h7f@inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com> Hi all, I have about 20 hours per week free time (besides my job and my family) and would like to strengthen both my NeXTSTEP knowledge and my income, so I'm looking for the possibility to work on NeXT-/Open-/GNU-Step projects. Just a few details about myself: 35 years, married, 2 children 18 years Software-Engineering 10 years Objectoriented Techniques 6 years NeXTSTEP (at home) 5 years Project management, Consulting 4 years relational Databases 1 year WWW, HTML, CGI; Java (beginner) NeXT Cube with NS Developer 3.2, EOF, WebObjects available. Thanks in advance, Pit
From: draese@deculx.ba-loerrach.de (Sebastian Draese) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: important, please read ! Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:25:37 GMT Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Message-ID: <32411189.8286502@news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Taking 5 minutes to read what follows can change your life : I saw an article in an internet newsgroup telling me I could make $50,000 within a month for an investment of only $5. I thought it was a huge joke. But remember...... For only $5 to invest, you have the chance to get money, money, and more money... $,$,$$$$$$$..... All you have to do is: but a $1 note in an envelope and mail it to the adresses ( with the words: please add me to your mailing list ) listed below. After that, delete the frist address, let the other addresses rise up, so #2 become #1, #3 become #2... and put your address on place #5. REMEMBER: for only $5 !!!! the chance to become $$$$$$$$$ and more $$$$$$ , but this only works, if you really send the money to the 5 people... !!!!!! okay, after you have done this, begin posting your text in 200 newsgroups (there are about 17000, so there is chance !) Two weeks later, it began receiving money in the mail! ---------------------------------------------- 1. Vic Williams 14307 Virtue Rd. Lenoir City, Tn 37772 USA 2. Bill Brown 148 South Downlen #796 Beaumont, Tx. 77707 USA 3. Olivier Arcadipane 237 rue Francois Andre 7390 Quaregnon BELGIUM 4. Josef Malzer, Brandhof 1 4701 Bad Schallerbach EUROPE - AUSTRIA 5. Sebastian Draese Hauptstrasse 31 D-79588 Efringen-Kirchen GERMANY,Europe --------------------------------------------- Lets review why you should do this. THE ONLY COST IS $5, AND 5 STAMPS, AND 5 ENVELOPES. Anyone can afford $5 for such an effortless investment with such SPECTACULAR RETURNS. Some people have said to me, "what happens if the scheme is played out and no one sends me any money? "Big Deal, so you lose $5-but what are the chances of that happening ?? Do you Realize that NOBODY cares for the LEGAL chance of winning such a BIG money as 50,000.00 $$$$ ???? and all for a microscopic investment of five separate dollars? just think of all of the new Internet users that join the net every day!!! There are millions of internet users, and millions of new net surfers every month !!! This is the great plus of the Internet, people all over the world can hear you and listen carefully if you talk reasonably. Everyone will take that chance ! I agree, If it wasn't the Internet, and was a small circle of people, the chance wouldn't have been so small. the amount of money had to be 200 times bigger, and the chances were zero. It wouldn't succeed. But here, on the Internet, it is a giant village, where new thousands of members join in every day ! you CAN'T lose !!!! Remember- read the instructions carefully, and play fairly. That's the only way this will work. Get a printout so you can refer back to this article easily. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the postings to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name should be. REMEMBER-HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHEAT THIS IDEA TO MAKE MONEY!! BESIDES,NOT PLAYING THE GAME FAIRLY IS ILLEGAL.SO LET'S BE REASONABLE AND PLAY FAIRLY,SO WE CAN ALL ENJOY THE INTERNET GOLD MINE. GOOD LUCK FOR YOU ALL, And remember, play fair and you'll win, I don't want to mention what might happen to those who won't. AND AGAIN,SEE YOU NEXT TIME WITH SOMETHING YOU WANTED FOR A LONG TIME !!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Install 3.3 Intel w/o SCSI CDROM? Message-ID: <324163ae.1089712@inet.corning.com> From: kruger_rc@corning.com (Ray Kruger) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:17:45 GMT Organization: Corning Incorporated I'de like to install 3.3 on an intel machine. The system has an IDE CDROM drive, but no SCSI interface card/cdrom. Is there any way to install on this system without adding SCSI components ? These views are not necessarily those of Corning Incorporated.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Install 3.3 Intel w/o SCSI CDROM? Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:26:03 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.960919162350.29677B-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <324163ae.1089712@inet.corning.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <324163ae.1089712@inet.corning.com> On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Ray Kruger wrote: > I'de like to install 3.3 on an intel machine. The system has an IDE > CDROM drive, but no SCSI interface card/cdrom. Is there any way to > install on this system without adding SCSI components ? > If you have an ATAPI CD-ROM this might probably work. Choose EIDE driver first and then choose the harddisk driver (don't mind about the configuration script telling you that you should first specify the driver for your harddisk, specify the EIDE driver here and then the SCSI driver. It should work. However there are ATAPI drives which refuse to work. Greetings, Bernhard.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Sender: draese@deculx.ba-loerrach.de (Sebastian Draese) Date: 19 Sep 1996 09:10:46 EDT Control: cancel <32411189.8286502@news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Subject: cmsg cancel <32411189.8286502@news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Message-ID: <cancel.32411189.8286502@news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Spam/MMF cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was important, please read !
From: colinj@math.math.unm.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep or NS 3.3 Date: 19 Sep 1996 19:16:15 GMT Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Distribution: world Message-ID: <51s65v$1nt@lynx.unm.edu> I am considering the purchase of OpenStep for my '040 cube. I'm wondering if there are tradeoffs between that and NS 3.3? Has NeXT stopped putting anything in OpenStep that I would find in NS 3.3? I'm a computer science undergrad. so most of my needs would be development and some writing. Does 3.3 do anything better for the black hardware then 4.0? Any thoughts or comments on this would be appreciated. -Colin J. -- "Now my life is better than an ABBA song" - Muriel, "Muriel's Wedding" Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Shell command Question about linking Date: 20 Sep 1996 01:01:36 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-h-09.usc.edu Message-ID: <51sqdg$rgm@usc.edu> If I have a file: DisabledButtonReplacement.tiff how can I link it to all the following files (that are all in one directory) without having to issue individual commands. [NOTE: that the target files all end in *IconDisabled.tiff]: ArchiveIconDisabled.tiff FollowupIconDisabled.tiff PrintIconDisabled.tiff ShowAllIconDisabled.tiff CatchupIconDisabled.tiff ForwardIconDisabled.tiff ReadIconDisabled.tiff UnreadIconDisabled.tiff FlipFontIconDisabled.tiff NewPostIconDisabled.tiff ReplyIconDisabled.tiff UudecodeIconDisabled.tiff TIA -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: Hans Shimizu Karlsson <hanske@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [Q}Sending/receiving attachments between Mac <--> NeXTSTEP Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:44:53 GMT Organization: Global OnLine Japan Message-ID: <960920094453.796AAC1E.hanske@raven> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Keywords: MIME attachements Mac NeXTSTEP Hello I am trying to exchange files over mail with a Mac user. His binhexed files open with the usual three separate resource forks, typical for the Mac, which won't work with the NeXT. How should he prepare his files so they can open on my NeXT? (one thing would obviously be to add extentions to file names, like ".tiff"). What kind of software is needed on the Mac side? How should I prepare my files for him? I have Pixel Magician, and Photoshop on the Mac can open NeXT tiffs straight off as far as I know. Does this mean all he need is a MIME compatible mailer? How about gifs and jpgs? Regards ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hans Shimizu Karlsson Web Producer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JAPAN FROM THE VIEW OF A FROG - an art journey - http://www.japancrafts.com/cafe ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hanske@pobox.com NeXTmail preferred. MIME, Sun, plain vanilla supported. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Shell command Question about linking Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960920011212.7883A-100000@charisma> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 01:17:05 -0400 References: <51sqdg$rgm@usc.edu> To: "Matthew N. Reichman" <reichman@usc.edu> In-Reply-To: <51sqdg$rgm@usc.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 20 Sep 1996, Matthew N. Reichman wrote: > Date: 20 Sep 1996 01:01:36 GMT > From: "Matthew N. Reichman" <reichman@usc.edu> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc > Subject: Shell command Question about linking > > If I have a file: > > DisabledButtonReplacement.tiff > > how can I link it to all the following files (that are all in > one directory) without having to issue individual commands. > [NOTE: that the target files all end in *IconDisabled.tiff]: > > ArchiveIconDisabled.tiff > FollowupIconDisabled.tiff > PrintIconDisabled.tiff > ShowAllIconDisabled.tiff > CatchupIconDisabled.tiff > ForwardIconDisabled.tiff > ReadIconDisabled.tiff > UnreadIconDisabled.tiff > FlipFontIconDisabled.tiff > NewPostIconDisabled.tiff > ReplyIconDisabled.tiff > UudecodeIconDisabled.tiff matthew -- since you use 'zsh' you can do this right from the commandline {copy and paste this right into a shell, in the right directory} for i in ArchiveIconDisabled.tiff \ FollowupIconDisabled.tiff \ PrintIconDisabled.tiff \ ShowAllIconDisabled.tiff \ CatchupIconDisabled.tiff \ ForwardIconDisabled.tiff \ ReadIconDisabled.tiff \ UnreadIconDisabled.tiff \ FlipFontIconDisabled.tiff \ NewPostIconDisabled.tiff \ ReplyIconDisabled.tiff \ UudecodeIconDisabled.tiff do ln -s DisabledButtonReplacement.tiff $i done I think you can do the same thing in a shell script: #!/bin/sh for i in ArchiveIconDisabled.tiff \ FollowupIconDisabled.tiff \ PrintIconDisabled.tiff \ ShowAllIconDisabled.tiff \ CatchupIconDisabled.tiff \ ForwardIconDisabled.tiff \ ReadIconDisabled.tiff \ UnreadIconDisabled.tiff \ FlipFontIconDisabled.tiff \ NewPostIconDisabled.tiff \ ReplyIconDisabled.tiff \ UudecodeIconDisabled.tiff do ln -s DisabledButtonReplacement.tiff $i done exit 0 #end TjL
From: owolf@net66.com (Scott Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.unix.aux Subject: Connecting NeXT black hardware with Mac running A/UX 3.0.2 via ethernet Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 07:51:52 -0500 Organization: Net66 Message-ID: <owolf-2009960751570001@joplin-122.net66.com> Hi, I'm trying to connect a NeXT color turbo station to a Mac Centris 610 via ethernet (using the NeXT's built in and an Asante SCSI ethernet card on the Centris). Since it's only going to be the two machines I assume that I can get away with using a cross-over 10baseT connector rather than buying a hub. However the real question I have is: will it be possible to not only do telenet between the machines (a rather straightforward thing) but also rpc's? The stickler is that NEXTSTEP 3.3 is based on BSD 4.3 while A/UX 3.0.2 is based on Unix System V.2.2 with numerous extensions from V.3, V.4 (such as streams). Although the FAQ for A/UX states that A/UX also uses, "BSD 4.2/4.3 (such as networking, the Fast File System, job control, lpr, NFS with Yellow Pages, SCCS and sendmail 5.64) this doesn't give me enough information to be sure that rpc's between the two systems will work as they're supposed to do. Finally I'd also like to know if I can get the entire NEXTSTEP interface to appear on the Centris using the -NXHost option, or is this limited to NeXT computers only? Scott Johnson
From: robin@batcomp.pswtech.com (Robin Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WriteNow -> PC conversion ?? Date: 20 Sep 1996 18:37:02 GMT Organization: PSW Technologies Message-ID: <51uo8e$ijo@digdug.pswtech.com> References: <UmDnMDi00iWTQCcLMv@andrew.cmu.edu> Avram Cheaney <avram+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > Hello. > My boss has about 800 WriteNow 2.0 documents on his NeXt (from a long > time ago).. I have to get them over to some sort of PC readable form, > I.E. .RTF, .DOC or HTML. > I don't really know a thing about NeXt.. I see that it is possible to > "Save As" to .RTF in WriteNow, but I don't want to do this 800 times. Is > it possible to automate such a thing on the NeXt? > Ideally there would be some kind of a command line tool that I could use > to make a script. Try this: for file in <filelist> do RTFFILE=`echo $file | sed "s/\.wn/\.rtf/"` /LocalApps/WriteNow.app/wn-rtf $file > $RTFFILE echo $RTFFILE done This assumes that "WriteNow.app" can be found in "/LocalApps" -- you will need to run this on _black_ hardward. A simple explaination -- the "RTFFILE" variable simply changes the '.wn' file extension to '.rtf'. The "wn-rtf" program converts a "WriteNow" format document to "rtf" format (be forwarned that NeXT's "rtf" isn't 100% compatible with MicroSoft's!). -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666
From: allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu (Allen Y. Tien) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: mail addresses Date: 20 Sep 1996 22:21:03 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA Message-ID: <51v5cf$hj3@news.jhu.edu> Does any one know where the address file is kept for Mail? I found this years ago but cannot remember where it is now. Thanks, Allen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: yves (Yves Akakpo) Subject: HP HD for NeXT Black Message-ID: <1996Sep21.200641.237@yves.fdn.fr> Sender: news@yves.fdn.fr Organization: Individual Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 20:06:41 GMT Hi all I WTB HP HD 2 Go for my Black hardware. Has anyone done it ? Can you tell me if this works fine? Thanks in advance Yves
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Markus G <tm@burrow.muc.de> Subject: Re: [Q}Sending/receiving attachments between Mac <--> NeXTSTEP In-Reply-To: Hans Shimizu Karlsson's message of Fri, 20 Sep 1996 00:44:53 GMT Message-ID: <7xbuezd2pg.fsf@burrow.muc.de> To: Hans Shimizu Karlsson <hanske@pobox.com> Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de Organization: caring for little Tigers References: <960920094453.796AAC1E.hanske@raven> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 20:37:32 GMT >>>>> "HSK" == Hans Shimizu Karlsson <hanske@pobox.com> writes: HSK> I am trying to exchange files over mail with a Mac user. HSK> [...] HSK> How should he prepare his files so they can open on my NeXT? HSK> (one thing would obviously be to add extentions to file HSK> names, like ".tiff"). Yes, either he or you would have to do that. HSK> What kind of software is needed on the Mac side? MIME compliant mailers on both sides. I used QuickMail 3.5 and Star's SMTP gateway on the Mac's side and Mail.app on the NEXTSTEP side with success. HSK> How should I prepare my files for him? I have Pixel Magician, HSK> and Photoshop on the Mac can open NeXT tiffs straight off as HSK> far as I know. HSK> Does this mean all he need is a MIME compatible mailer? How HSK> about gifs and jpgs? I guess if the the recipient with the Mac understands the workings of his (not too old version of) Photoshop, there should be no problem (I'm not a graphix person but I know that e.g. gifs use indexed colors). hth, tm -- / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __ __/ __ __ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the mole / / / / . . . . . . . . . . . . . tm@burrow.muc.de __/ __/ __/ __/ . . . . . . . . http://www.muc.de/~mgloede/
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Sender: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <Pine.NXT.3.95.960921151845.2838A-100000@charisma> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Control: cancel <Pine.NXT.3.95.960921151845.2838A-100000@charisma> Message-ID: <cancel.Pine.NXT.3.95.960921151845.2838A-100000@charisma> These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite.
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From: allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu (Allen Y. Tien) Sender: allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu (Allen Y. Tien) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 21 Sep 96 12:21:12 GMT Subject: cmsg cancel <51v5cf$hj3@news.jhu.edu> Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA Control: cancel <51v5cf$hj3@news.jhu.edu> Message-ID: <cancel.51v5cf$hj3@news.jhu.edu> These cancels are issued as a service to the Internet providers not wishing to carry articles from computer geeks and eggheads. Sites that do not wish to take advantage of this free service can easily can opt out of these cancels by "aliasing out" the geekcancel pseudosite.
From: stefanos@Vir.com (Stefanos Kiakas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP driver Web site. Date: 23 Sep 1996 00:20:56 -0400 Organization: Communications Vir, Internet Access Montreal. Message-ID: <525378$t4l@Vir.com> (I posted this about a week ago but I haven't seen it on Altavista so I thought I would post it again. - stef ) Hello, I'd like to ask all of you out there who are looking for a driver or have written a driver and want the NeXTSTEP user community to know about it to send me an email message at stefanos@uniscape.com Those of you who are feeling more generous could submit a "How I developed a SUPERFOO driver" to help other people learn to build/modify drivers to customize them to meet their own needs. (Assuming they know how to program.) Any help would be appreciated, stef
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q}Sending/receiving attachments between Mac <--> NeXTSTEP Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 22:29:42 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-2209962229420001@news.tiac.net> References: <960920094453.796AAC1E.hanske@raven> <7xbuezd2pg.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <7xbuezd2pg.fsf@burrow.muc.de>, Markus G <tm@burrow.muc.de> wrote: > >>>>> "HSK" == Hans Shimizu Karlsson <hanske@pobox.com> writes: > HSK> I am trying to exchange files over mail with a Mac user. > > HSK> How should I prepare my files for him? I have Pixel Magician, > HSK> and Photoshop on the Mac can open NeXT tiffs straight off as > HSK> far as I know. > > HSK> Does this mean all he need is a MIME compatible mailer? How > HSK> about gifs and jpgs? If your file is true 24 bit color and you cannot tolerate any loss of quality, use tiff format. Otherwise use jpeg to keep the file size reasonable. If the file is 8 bit indexed color, you should use the gif format, which (I believe) is lossless, or jpeg for a possibly smaller (but lossy) file. PixelMagician will create all of these, and allows you to experiment with the jpeg loss versus quality tradeoff. On the Mac, your friend should use either GifConverter (gif and jpeg) or GraphicConverter. Both handle gif, jpeg and tiff, and both allow more image manipulation than PixelMagician. GraphicConverter is newer, compiled fat (for PowerPC) and has more powerful image manipulation tools. Hence a bit harder to learn. Barney
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Novell in 4.0 Date: 23 Sep 1996 10:03:06 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Message-ID: <525n8q$5rg@netty.york.ac.uk> Wheres it gone ? please don't tell me they dumped that as well ! can I pacth in some old 3.3 bits to make it work ? sigh... -batt.
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TeXview and teTeX, TeXview can't find fonts Date: 23 Sep 1996 13:07:54 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <52623a$18s@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <51p033$hlg@lynx.unm.edu> Colin Eric Johnson (colinj@math.math.unm.edu) wrote: : I have just installed teTeX on my OpenStep system (black hardware). : TeXview was in the NextDeveloper/Demos section. When ever I try and : use it to view a DVI file it complains about not being able to find : fonts or be able to open the tfm files. : Will TeXview only work with certain .tfm files? Is there someplace : special that it should be looking for them? teTeX has a full set of : .tfm files for all of the fonts. I'd like to be able to view the : documents that I create. Anyone have any suggestions on what I might : do? Ha! Just won another bet with Thomas Esser ;-): The answer is already on your system, look at TETEXDIR/texmf/doc/tetex/teTeX-FAQ, question 22): 22) teTeX doesn't work with my NEXTSTEP TeXview.app, what should I do ? [ NOTE: there are some teTeX/NeXT specific files available via ftp and on the web. The URLs are: http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX and in the directory teTeX/contrib/NeXT on the ftp servers where teTeX is available, e.g.: ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/systems/unix/teTeX/contrib/NeXT] NEXTSTEP's TeXview.app lacks kpathsearch support. Therefore it doesn't know how to find fonts spread around subdirectories, as in teTeX and TDS. Two possible solutions: a) Fetch a modified TeXview.app incorporating kpathsearch. Still in testing, but usable. The primary site for TeXview-kp is ftp://zarquon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/pub/NeXT/TeX b) [Not recommended!] `Flatten' teTeX's font directory layout. Done most easily by setting the "stripsupplier" and "striptypeface" options within texconfig's FONT/OPTIONS. Remove NeXTTeX's font directories and replace them by symlinks into teTeX (replace $TEXMF by the correct value for your installation): rm -rf /usr/lib/tex/fonts/pk /usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm rm -rf /usr/lib/tex/fonts/vf /usr/lib/tex/ps cd $TEXMF/fonts/tfm ; mv */*/*.tfm .; rmdir */* * >/dev/null cd $TEXMF/fonts/vf ; mv */*/*.vf .; rmdir */* * >/dev/null cd $TEXMF/dvips; mv */* .; rmdir * >/dev/null ln -s $TEXMF/fonts/pk/nextscrn /usr/lib/tex/fonts/pk ln -s $TEXMF/fonts/tfm /usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm ln -s $TEXMF/fonts/vf /usr/lib/tex/fonts/vf ln -s $TEXMF/dvips /usr/lib/tex/ps ln -s $TEXMF/dvips/config.dfaxhigh $TEXMF/dvips/config.fax texconfig font options stickydir stripsupplier striptypeface texhash If you seem to have NEXTSTEP-specific problems with teTeX, contact Gregor Hoffleit <flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de> Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | | flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | | PGP Key fingerprint = 23 8F B3 38 A3 39 A6 01 5B 99 91 D6 F2 AC CD C7 |
From: lars@ibp.de (Lars Immisch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HP HD for NeXT Black Date: 23 Sep 1996 13:30:46 GMT Organization: Immisch, Becker & Partner Message-ID: <5263e6$m8v@news.ppp.net> References: <1996Sep21.200641.237@yves.fdn.fr> yves (Yves Akakpo) wrote: >Hi all > >I WTB HP HD 2 Go for my Black hardware. >Has anyone done it ? >Can you tell me if this works fine? You want to buy a 2 Gigabyte HP hardisk for your black hardware? I am using a HP SureStore 2000 in my Station without problems... Lars
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: mail addresses Message-ID: <R.Pine.NXT.3.95.960921151845.2838A-100000@charisma> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:19:12 -0400 References: <51v5cf$hj3@news.jhu.edu> To: "Allen Y. Tien" <allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu> In-Reply-To: <51v5cf$hj3@news.jhu.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. ~/.NeXT/.mailalias TjL
From: Sven & Jennifer Crouse <svenifer@snet.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OPENSTEP 4.0 User & Developer contents? Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:54:59 -0400 Organization: SNET Internet: http://www.snet.net/ Message-ID: <3246F923.20A8E616@snet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just received OPENSTEP 4.0 Academic User & Developer for Mach bundle from Optimal-Object. Several of the books included & on-line documentation (libraries and others) mention the User's Guide. In addition, the "WHAT'S INSIDE" flyer listing all included books,documents, media specifies the User's Guide book as being part of the package. Should OPENSTEP 4.0 User include a User's Guide book? Thanks
From: ts110@pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS3.3 NextTeX - where? Date: 23 Sep 1996 23:38:50 GMT Organization: Cambridge University, Pure Mathematics and Mathematical Statistics Message-ID: <52772a$s97@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Where can I get the latest copy of NeXTTeX (say the one shipped with NS3.3)? I've just upgraded to OpenStep and OpenStep doesn't come with NeXTTeX any more. I have located something called NeXTTeXUp.pkg on the archives which seems to be NeXTTeX version 3.05. Is this the latest version of NeXTTeX out there? In what way is it different from version 3.0? Thank you very much for your help! Tomaz Slivnik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: yves (Yves Akakpo) Subject: HP HD for NeXT Black Message-ID: <R.1996Sep21.200641.237@yves.fdn.fr> Sender: news@yves.fdn.fr Organization: Individual Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 20:06:41 GMT Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. Hi all I WTB HP HD 2 Go for my Black hardware. Has anyone done it ? Can you tell me if this works fine? Thanks in advance Yves
From: deyoe@chmsr.gatech.edu (Kelly Deyoe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is there a Sticky Key program available? Date: 24 Sep 1996 15:55:33 GMT Organization: Center for Human-Machine Systems Research Distribution: world Message-ID: <52909l$mn2@mordred.gatech.edu> I need a sticky program to be able to work with computers. Is there something similar to Superkey available for an Intel platform running OS 4.0? The program should filter all key strokes to any other program I may be using so that <alt>, <control>, and <shift> characters are properly interpreted. Since I can't press two keys simultaneously, I need to press one key then another and have the computer interpret the two strokes as one. If anyone knows of something that may work for my situation, please email. kelly Kelly Deyoe deyoe@chmsr.isye.gatech.edu Center for Human-Machine Systems Research School of Industrial and Systems Engineering Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, GA 30332-0205
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SSS Quiz of the Month Date: 24 Sep 1996 20:14:33 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <529ff9$ca2@peng.ping.at> Dear NEXTSTEP community, here's a bit of a relaxation for you. If you can spare a minute, you're welcome to participate in this month's quiz on http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/index.html This month's prize is a free HelpViewer license (worth upto US$ 99), or, alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software. The first one to answer the quiz question wins the prize! I admit that this month's quiz question is not an easy one. So, another new hint will be revealed every other day, until someone finally sends in the correct answer. Have fun, - Stefan Stefan Schneider Software stefan@ping.at www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: allen@atienmh.sph.jhu.edu (Allen Y. Tien) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: mail addresses Date: 20 Sep 1996 22:21:03 GMT Organization: HCF - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, USA Message-ID: <R.51v5cf$hj3@news.jhu.edu> Reposting article removed by rogue canceller. Does any one know where the address file is kept for Mail? I found this years ago but cannot remember where it is now. Thanks, Allen
From: housemary@aol.com (Nate Weaver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help with NeXT PPP Date: 25 Sep 1996 18:30:17 GMT Organization: Poor Message-ID: <housemary-2509961328320001@xyplex5-2-15.ucs.indiana.edu> I am a NeXT newbie who needs help with getting PPP running on my slab. I have acquired ppp0.3 but the documentation is poor (to me anyways). If anybody can point me in the direction to a good FAQ (somebody told me they once saw step by step intructions in a FAQ somewhere), or help me directly, I would be greatly appreciative. Thanks, Nate -- "Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come."
From: "Jon A. Lovstad" <jonal@hiof.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: serving e-mail for another domain under NeXTstep Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:16:28 +0200 Organization: UNINETT news service Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960925221317.25616E-100000@gyda> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm having a slab set up at my ISP to serve as the wwww, ftp and e-mail server for my domain nostromo.no. I don't have a separate subnet, so the machine is also known as nostromo.cybercomm.no. Mailrouting for nostromo.no is set to be handled by www.nostromo.no, but when I send an e-mail to the domain, I get a bounce. The machine complains about a loop. I'm running 3.3 Any idea on how I solve this? Best, Jon -- The Web is exciting for two reasons. One, it's ubiquitous. Two, I don't think Microsoft will figure out a way to own it. - Steve Jobs
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q: serving e-mail for another domain under NeXTstep Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 00:56:42 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0mGUo_600Uzx036KAT@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960925221317.25616E-100000@gyda> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960925221317.25616E-100000@gyda> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 25-Sep-96 Q: serving e-mail for anoth.. by "Jon A. Lovstad"@hiof.no > I'm having a slab set up at my ISP to serve as the wwww, ftp and e-mail > server for my domain nostromo.no. I don't have a separate subnet, so the > machine is also known as nostromo.cybercomm.no. Mailrouting for > nostromo.no is set to be handled by www.nostromo.no, but when I send an > e-mail to the domain, I get a bounce. The machine complains about a loop. The classic "Mail loops back to myself" error, no doubt. You need to tell your machine that it should handle that mail address locally by adding that address to the sendmail config file. Edit /etc/sendmail/sendmail.cf and look for a line starting with 'Cw'; then add whatever domains you want that machine to handle as local. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: wendling@next (Fabrice Wendling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SB16 on 3.3 Date: 26 Sep 1996 07:49:23 GMT Organization: Universite de Rennes 1, France Message-ID: <52dci3$q80@news.univ-rennes1.fr> Hello ! Does anybody knows how to install a SB16 on 3.3 ? I think I adjusted the right parameters (A220, DMA 1 and IRQ 5) since this card works well under MS windows with these parameters. However, when I boot in verbose mode, I get a message saying that no SB device is recognized at address 220H. I also tried with the later drivers (found on www.next.com) without succes. My plateform is an Intel P166, NextStep 3.3. Thanks for your help. Answers may also be sent to: wendling@next.univ-rennes1.fr
From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: This is SCARY! Date: 26 Sep 1996 11:49:12 GMT Organization: Unconfigured Message-ID: <52dqjo$2ku@jaring.my> A couple times recently, when I power up my slab, the only thing that seems to be working is the fan... nothing on the monitor, no noise from the HD, no response from the keyboard. Pull the plug, and then try again, and it fires up ok. Anyone ever experience this. Please don't die on me now! BTW, I changed some SIMMs a week earlier, but otherwise nothing new in the HW department. Mike -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Michael Olan Email: michael@rumah.pc.my (NeXT Mail OK) Senior Lecturer - Computer Science michael@ppp.itm.my American Degree Program Fax: 6-03-5482329 Institut Teknologi MARA Section 17, Shah Alam, Malaysia ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Novell in 4.0 Date: 26 Sep 1996 14:18:29 GMT Organization: US Net, Incorporated Message-ID: <52e3bl$7nj@news.us.net> References: <525n8q$5rg@netty.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) wrote: >Wheres it gone ? please don't tell me they dumped that as well ! That's my question too! The release notes say that it's gone, but /usr/netware is still there (NetWareManager is gone). Why did NeXT drop this important connection? Also, since the NetWare client under NS3.3 is for NetWare 2.x and 3.x, how does one log into a NetWare 4.x server when the account is in another context (not the default one)? -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: Ken Kopp <ken@koppelectronics.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: This is SCARY! Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:07:01 -0700 Organization: Kopp Electronics Message-ID: <324B0C95.2CE7@koppelectronics.com> References: <52dqjo$2ku@jaring.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Michael Olan <michael@rumah.pc.my> Michael Olan wrote: > > A couple times recently, when I power up my slab, the only thing that seems > to be working is the fan... nothing on the monitor, no noise from the HD, no > response from the keyboard. Pull the plug, and then try again, and it fires > up ok. Anyone ever experience this. Please don't die on me now! > > BTW, I changed some SIMMs a week earlier, but otherwise nothing new in the HW > department. > > Mike > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Michael Olan Email: michael@rumah.pc.my (NeXT Mail OK) > Senior Lecturer - Computer Science michael@ppp.itm.my > American Degree Program Fax: 6-03-5482329 > Institut Teknologi MARA Section 17, Shah Alam, Malaysia > --------------------------------------------------------------------- It sounds like the switching power supply is not reliably starting. The usual cause is bad capacitors in the startup portion of the supply...... Ken @ http://www.koppelectronics.com/
From: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: This is SCARY! Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:02:47 -0700 Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd. Message-ID: <324B0B97.595A@mpr.ca> References: <52dqjo$2ku@jaring.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Olan wrote: > > A couple times recently, when I power up my slab, the only thing that seems > to be working is the fan... nothing on the monitor, no noise from the HD, no > response from the keyboard. Pull the plug, and then try again, and it fires > up ok. Anyone ever experience this. Please don't die on me now! > > BTW, I changed some SIMMs a week earlier, but otherwise nothing new in the HW > department. > > Mike > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dr. Michael Olan Email: michael@rumah.pc.my (NeXT Mail OK) > Senior Lecturer - Computer Science michael@ppp.itm.my > American Degree Program Fax: 6-03-5482329 > Institut Teknologi MARA Section 17, Shah Alam, Malaysia > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mine did and still does do something similar. Sometimes when i power on I hear the Disk spin up, I hear the fan, But nothing show up on the screen, and no keyboard command do anything. If I unplug the system about 30 sec after turning it on and plug it in and then try powering on again ... it will then power up sometimes. Most of the time it still won't show anything on the screen. If i let the system sit there with the power on and the screen blank for a few minutes and then do the unpluging thing again then it will powerup perfectly everytime. As long as i have let it wait that extra bit. If the system is on and booted up I can power it of and then on again without any problems what so ever. The suggestions that i got centered around replacing the battery. Which i did to no avail. I think that that solution is good for if the system doesn't even turn on. I also did test like holding down the power key longer or less.... still didn't work. So ... Is this like what you are experiencing too. I know you are probably thinking ... I don't want to hear about other peoples problems I just what a fix for it. :) But ... Hey I am still dealing with it .... so now i just leave the system on all the time. Fortunatly i have a color system so i can turn of the monitor. ;) I hope we can find a solution for it soon. I also hope that this message makes sense. Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.northstar,comp.windows.x.pex,hepnet.conferences From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Sender: GetFree@mail.com Date: 26 Sep 1996 20:35:37 EDT Control: cancel <3242D9EC.7D93@mail.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <3242D9EC.7D93@mail.com> Message-ID: <cancel.3242D9EC.7D93@mail.com> Spam/MMF cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was BEYOND TECHNOLOGY
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Q: serving e-mail for another domain under NeXTstep Date: 27 Sep 1996 04:24:04 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-f-54.usc.edu Message-ID: <52fkt4$o4e@usc.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960925221317.25616E-100000@gyda> Cc: jonal@hiof.no In <Pine.SUN.3.91.960925221317.25616E-100000@gyda> "Jon A. Lovstad" wrote: > I'm having a slab set up at my ISP to serve as the wwww, ftp and e-mail > server for my domain nostromo.no. I don't have a separate subnet, so the Please let us know how you manage to create a wwww server. 8-» -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: can no longer mount DOS CDs! Please help! Date: 27 Sep 1996 07:30:28 GMT Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <52fvqk$17e@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Hello, I have black hardware, with an original NeXT CDROM drive and NS3.3. So far I could mount DOS CDROMs without problems, but recently (I was just demo-ing that capability to a friend -- how embarrassing!) the drive simply spits out the DOS CD! (Well, I kind of sympathize with the drive....). I can mount NS (bsd) Unix disks, no problem. I can also play Audio-CD-disks. No problem. I don't have a Mac disk handy to test it. All it does, is to check for all different file systems, including DOS, but not recognizing it as DOS! Can this be due to a dirty CDROM-drive? I tried several DOS CDROMs (including those that i could read before), all with the same result! I am not aware that I changed anything on the system intentionally --- has anyone on the net experienced s.th. similar? Or any ideas what can be wrong? I can mount DOS *floppies* without problems! Another user already indicated to me that he has the same problem on his NeXT. Any help (best via an e-mail) would be greatly appreciated!! Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: sneal@ichips.intel.com (Scott M. Neal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PPP/Web browsers under 3.0 Date: 27 Sep 1996 18:35:44 GMT Organization: Intel Development Labs, INTeL Corporation Message-ID: <52h6q0$pc8@news.jf.intel.com> I've got an original '030 NeXTcube which I've been running NS 2.1 on for umpteen years now... I tried to upgrade it to NS3.3 last year so I could run PPP and WWW browsers, but the performance was so god awful slow that I downgraded it back to 2.1. I'm wondering if NS 3.0 might run a little bit better (yes, I know about the 2.x optimized for 030, 3.x optimized for 040 problem), and if it could run PPP and any of the modern-day NS browsers (SpiderWoman, Omniweb, etc.). I can take a little bit of a performance hit (this system started out as a OD-only system!), but 3.3 was completely unacceptable... I've got 24 MB of ram, and a 1/2 gig Fujitsu drive. And yes, the OD still works too! Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: can no longer mount DOS CDs! Please help! Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960927141410.2305D-100000@charisma> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:30:07 -0400 References: <52fvqk$17e@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> To: Helmut Heller <heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de> In-Reply-To: <52fvqk$17e@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hmm. The above is the only definite answer I will give. The rest is speculation, guesswork, and supposition. Use at your own risk, yatta yatta yatta On my NeXTStation, (where my CDROM is scsi ID 3) NeXT CDs are mounted on /dev/sd3a Others (ie non BSD 4.3 filesystem CDs) are mounted on /dev/rsd3h so /dev/rsdXh where X = SCSI ID of CD-ROM If this were me and I was really curious, I would (as root) edit /etc/mtab to have something like this in it (in addition to what was already there): /dev/rsd3h /DosCD dos ro,removable,filesystem=CDROM 1 2 (Note: it would be better if I knew what the CD wanted to be called, rather than just calling it "DosCD" and then I would use that) Then I would go to Workspace Manager and wait for /DosCD to appear. I might even use 'Update Viewers' or WSNotify from the TickleServices package. I would assume that a panel will come up asking me to insert a disk into external drive #3, and then I would put in a DOS CD. Then I would assume it would either work or give me some sort of error message. If that didn't work, I'd logout, halt, get to the ROM monitor, put a DOS CD into the CD-ROM and boot in verbose mode, and watch what it says when it gets to the CD-ROM. Then I might wonder about the permissions, and I'd look at 'ls': crw-r----- 1 root operator 14, 31 May 4 13:08 /dev/rsd3h which works fine for me. I might think about running 'cd /dev/ ; MAKEDEV std ' if it looked weird, but really by this point something odd should have appeared, and I would have asked again on the newsgroup.... Best wishes in solving this problem
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PPP/Web browsers under 3.0 Date: 27 Sep 1996 22:05:33 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <52hj3d$qfq@news4.digex.net> References: <52h6q0$pc8@news.jf.intel.com> sneal@ichips.intel.com (Scott M. Neal) wrote: > I've got an original '030 NeXTcube which I've been running > NS 2.1 on for umpteen years now... I tried to upgrade it to NS3.3 > last year so I could run PPP and WWW browsers, but the performance > was so god awful slow that I downgraded it back to 2.1. Well, Probably the best functionality/performance mix for you would be (of course other than to get a new machine or upgrade :) using system 3.2. It was probably the last version without a big performance hit on black hardware. You'll also be able to use fat binary apps (all the newest apps) and can install the foundation patch and even use the newest software... PPP will work fine under it as well... Of course if you upgrade to an 040 and or 32megs of ram that would help... Both are 040's and memory are going rather cheap these days... But then again, so is intel hardware :) However...even with the OS running decently well, the WWW browsers maybe a bit too slow. They kind of demand a fast cpu (rendering all the graphics and downloading etc)... Plus, a 28.8k modem will really tax the 030 serial ports, you likely wont be able to get the full speed of the modem in through the old serial ports (not a problem if you're using 14.4k or slower modems...). It really maybe time to upgrade... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy...It's coming... | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: Technical Options <toi@mcs.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Chicago/ N. Carolina Next Developer Date: Fri, 27 Sep 96 14:33:48 PDT Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <NEWTNews.14688.843871023.Postmaster@toi.mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Multiple positions: S/W Engineers to S/R S/W Engineers Salary commenurate with experience, 40-80K Plus bonus. Desired Skills: Nextstep, Objective C, Sybase, Interface Builder & Next development tools The candidate should have 2-5 years plus experience. Eligible candidate should have the following skills: 1) Ability to handle multiple projects simultaneously 2) Ability to work under pressure in time critical situations 3) Problem solving and analytical capabilities Knowledge of one of the following: - Financial Derivatives Business - Currency Options Pricing - Risk Management - Interest Rate Derivatives Contact Mike Hartnett for more information; Technical Options, Inc P-630.357.9400 toi@mcs.net F-630.357.9411
From: c671143@showme.missouri.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: need help with OS Project Builder Date: 26 Sep 1996 07:23:12 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Message-ID: <52db10$csk@news.missouri.edu> I'm having a terrible time getting anything to compile. For instance I pulled PPP_Monitor off the Net, and I can't get it to compile at all under project builder. I get all types of errors about how it can't find files. I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong. I'm new to NeXT programming so I'm probably doing something very simple. Can someone help me out? Thanks. Michael Roberts c671143@showme.missouri.edu NeXTMail wanted, but others accepted.
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PPP/Web browsers under 3.0 Date: 28 Sep 1996 03:42:21 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <52i6qt$lra@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> References: <52h6q0$pc8@news.jf.intel.com> <52hj3d$qfq@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > Plus, a 28.8k modem will really tax the 030 serial > ports, you likely wont be able to get the full speed of the modem in > through the old serial ports (not a problem if you're using 14.4k or slower > modems...). It really maybe time to upgrade... The serial ports on 030 Cubes don't support hardware flow control, so 9600 is the maximum reliable serial port speed. Even a 14.4 modem with compression requires a 57.6 serial port speed for full performance. So using a 030 Cube for Web browsing would be an exercise in total frustration. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: can no longer mount DOS CDs! Please help! Message-ID: <DyFx2J.xJ@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960927141410.2305D-100000@charisma> Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 11:25:31 GMT In article <Pine.NXT.3.95.960927141410.2305D-100000@charisma> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> writes: > > Hmm. > > The above is the only definite answer I will give. The rest is > speculation, guesswork, and supposition. Use at your own risk, yatta > yatta yatta > > On my NeXTStation, (where my CDROM is scsi ID 3) > > NeXT CDs are mounted on /dev/sd3a > > Others (ie non BSD 4.3 filesystem CDs) are mounted on /dev/rsd3h > > so /dev/rsdXh where X = SCSI ID of CD-ROM > This is where Tim is erring! X is the n-th mountable device on the bus and Tim's CD/ROM would also be sd3a if he would switch to SCSI-ID 6. It is just by coincidence that his fourth mountable device also has the fourth SCSI-ID (In my machine the CD/ROM has ID 4 and shows up as sd2a, for instance). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: nedulous@ix.netcom.com(Ned Smith ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: zmodem for NS Intel Date: 29 Sep 1996 00:48:10 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <52kh0a$1d9@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bb9c30$3dda4aa0$b51543a4@lullaby> <50sbkm$l8k@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <323BB001.42AF@voyager.net> <51vshn$aeu@news.bctel.net> I'm looking for zmodem for intel. Found it (old version) for Moto, but not anything more recent. If you know where it is, or have a copy, please let me know where I can ftp it from, or offer to mail it to me. Thanks much, Kurt (using Ned's account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: the mad canceller Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.960929220040.2785A-100000@charisma> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 22:01:35 -0400 Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Did anyone figure out who was causing all of those cancels last week? I'd really like to meet their sysadmin TjL
From: Aero_Dragon@HotMail.com (Aero Dragon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.unix.osf.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.sys5.misc,comp.unix.xenix.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer.misc,comp.os.misc Subject: --Do you need money? Read this! Date: 30 Sep 1996 10:55:41 GMT Organization: RD Corp. Message-ID: <52o8vd$pp8@news.mty.itesm.mx> THIS REALLY DOES WORK!!!! It only cost me the postage and $5. READ ON. Hello! I've got some awesome news that I think you need to take two minutes to read if you have ever thought "How could I make some serious cash in a hurry???" , or been in serious debt, ready to do almost anything to get the money needed to pay off those bill collectors. So grab a snack, a warm cup of coffee, or a glass of your favorite beverage, get comfortable and listen to this interesting, exciting find! Let me start by saying that I FINALLY FOUND IT! That's right! I found it! And I HATE GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES!! I hate those schemes like multi-level marketing, mail-order schemes, envelope stuffing scams, 900 number scams... the list goes on forever. I have tried every darn get rich quick scheme out there over the past 12 years. I somehow got on mailing lists for people looking to make money (more like 'desperate stupid people who will try anything for money!'). Well, when I was a teenager, these claims to 'get me rich quick' sounded irresistible! I would shell out $14.95 here, $29.95 there, $24.95 here, and another $49.95 there. I had maxed out my new Circuit City Card AND my Visa...I was desperate for money!! So, I gave them all a chance but failed at every one of them! Maybe they worked for some people, but not for me. Eventually, I just tossed that JUNK MAIL in the trash when I got the mail. I recognized it right away. I can smell a money scam from a mile away these days, SO I THOUGHT.... I thought I could sniff out a scam easily. WAS I WRONG!! ......I LOVE THE INTERNET!!! I was scanning thru a NEWSGROUP and saw an article stating to GET CASH FAST!! I thought..."Here on the Internet?? Well, I'll just have to see what schemes could possibly be on the internet." The article described a way to MAIL A ONE DOLLAR BILL TO ONLY FIVE PEOPLE AND MAKE $50, 0000 IN CASH WITHIN 4 WEEKS! Well, the more I thought about it, the more I became very curious. Why? Because of the way it worked AND BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY COST ME FIVE DOLLARS (AND FIVE STAMPS), THAT'S ALL I EVER PAY....EVER!! Ok, so the $50,000 in cash was maybe an tough amount to reach, but it was possible. I knew that I could at least get a return of $1,000 or so. So I did it!! As per the instructions in the article, I mailed out ('snail mail'for you e-mail fanatics) a single dollar bill to each of the five people on the list that was contained in the article. I included a small note, with the dollar, that stated "Please Add Me To Your List." I then removed the first position name of the five names listed and moved everyone up one position, and I put my name in position five of the list. This is how the money starts rolling in! I then took this revised article now with my name on the list and REPOSTED IT ON AS MANY NEWSGROUPS AND LOCAL BULLETIN BOARD MESSAGE AREAS THAT I KNEW. I then waited to watch the money come in...prepared to maybe receive about $1000 to $1500 in cash or so.... But what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!! I knew what they were as soon as I saw the return addresses from people all over the world-Most from the U.S., but some from Canada, even some from Australia! I tell you, THAT WAS EXCITING!! So how much did I get in total return? $1000? $5000? Not even!!! I received a total of $23,343!!! I couldn't believe it!! I now have a brand new black Acura Integra to speak for, due to this!! Now after almost 8 months, I am ready to do it again!!! So maybe it was possible to get $50,000 in cash, I don't know, but IT COMPLETELY DEPENDS ON YOU, THE INDIVIDUAL! You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of! The more postings you achieve will determine how much cash will arrive in your very own mailbox!! It's just too easy to pass up!!! Let's review the reasons why you should do this: The only cost factors are for the five stamps, the 5 envelopes and the 5 one dollar bills that you send out to the listed names by snail mail (US Postal Service Mail). Then just simply repost the article (WITH YOUR NAME ADDED) to all the newsgroups and local BBS's you can. Then sit back and, (ironically), enjoy walking (you can run if you like! :o ) down your driveway to your mailbox and scoop up your rewards!! We all have five dollars to put into such an easy effortless investment with SPECTACULAR REALISTIC RETURNS OF $15,000 to $25,000 in about 3-5 weeks! So HOLD OFF ON THOSE LOTTERY NUMBERS FOR TODAY,EAT AT HOME TONIGHT INSTEAD OF TAKEOUT FROM McDONALDS AND INVEST FIVE DOLLARS IN THIS AMAZING MONEY MAKING SYSTEM NOW!!! YOU CAN'T LOSE!! So how do you do it exactly, you ask? I have carefully provided the mostdetailed, yet straightforward instructions on how to easily get this underway and get your cash on its way. SO, ARE YOU READY TO MAKE SOME CASH!!!?? HERE WE GO!!! *** THE LIST OF NAMES IS AT THE END OF THIS ARTICLE. *** OK, Read this carefully. Get a printout of this information, if you like, so you can easily refer to it as often as needed. INSTRUCTIONS: 1. Take a sheet of paper and write on it the following: "Please add my name to your list". This creates a service out of this money making system and thus making it completely legal. You are not just randomly sending a dollar to someone, you are paying one dollar for a legitimate service. Make sure you include your name and address. I assure you that, again, this is completely legal! For a neat little twist, also write what slot their name was in: "You were in slot 3", Just to add a little fun! This is all about having fun and making money at the same time! 2. Now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill ,(no checks or money orders), and put them into an envelope and send it on its way to the five people listed. The folding of the paper around the bill will insure its arrival to its recipient. THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!! 3. Now listen carefully, here's where you get YOUR MONEY COMING TO YOUR MAILBOX. Look at the list of five people; remove the first name from position one and move everyone on the list up slot one on the list. Position 2 name will now move to the position 1 slot , position 3 will now become position 2, 4 will be be 3, 5 wil be 4. Now put your name, address, zipcode AND COUNTRY in position 5, the bottom position on the list. 4. Now upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and local bulletin boards' message areas & file section as possible. Give a catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!! Such as: "NEED FAST CASH?, HERE IT IS!" or "NEED CASH TO PAY OFF YOUR DEBTS??", etc. And the more uploads, the more money you will make, and of course, the more money the others on the list will make too. LET'S ALL TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER BY BEING HONEST AND BY PUTTING FORTH 120 PERCENT INTO THIS PROFITABLE & AMAZING SYSTEM!!! You'll reap the benefits, believe me!!! Set a goal for the number of total uploads you'll post, such as 15-20 postings or more! Always have a goal in mind!!! If you can UUE encode the file when uploading, that will make it easier for the people to receive it and have it downloaded to their hard drive. That way they get a copy of the article right on their computer without hassles of viewing and then saving the article from the File menu. Don't alter the file type, leave it as an MS-DOS Text file. The best test is to be able to view this file using Microsoft's Notepad for Windows 3.x or WordPad for Windows '95. If the margins look right without making the screen slide left or right when at the ends of the sentences, you're in business! 5. If you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the BBS, or "POST" a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a file, tell them who your Internet provider is and PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS BE GLAD TO HELP. I would try to describe how to do it but there are simply too many internet software packages with slightly different yet relatively simple ways to post or upload a file. Just ask for help or look in the help section for 'posting'. I do know that for GNN, you simply select 'POST' then enter a catchy description under the subject box, choose 'ATTACH', selecting 'UUE' and NOT 'TXT', then choose 'Browse' to go look for the file. Find your text file CASH.TXT and click on it and choose 'OK'. Place a one line statement in the main body section of the message post screen. Something like "Download this to read how to get cash arriving in your mailbox with no paybacks!" or whatever. Just make sure it represents its true feasibility, NOT something like... "Get one million dollars flooding in your mailbox in two days!" You'll never get ANY responses! 6. And this is the step I like. JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY LIFE BECAUSE CASH IS ON ITS THE WAY!! Expect to see a little money start to trickle in around 2 weeks, but AT ABOUT WEEKS 3 & 4, THE MONEY STORM WILL HIT YOUR MAILBOX!! All you have to do is take it out of the mailbox and try not to scream too loud (outside anyway) when you realize YOU HIT THE BIG TIME AT LAST!! 7. So go PAY OFF YOUR BILLS AND DEBTS and then get that something special you always wanted or buy that special person in your life (or the one you want in your life) a gift they'll never forget. ENJOY LIFE! 8. Now when you get low on this money supply, simply re-activate this file again; Reposting it in the old places where you originally posted and possibly some new places you now know of. Don't ever lose this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you ever need cash. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TOOL THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS RE-USE TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHEN CASH IS NEEDED! ******************************************************************* ******************************************************************* THE NAMES LIST THE NAMES LIST THE NAME LIST ******************************************************************* HONESTY IS WHAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL!!! * 1. Billy Stevens P.O.Box 5022 Dallas, TX 75379-5022 2. Sam Roberts 4200 East Fletcher Ave. #227 Tampa, Fl. 33613-4902 3. Greg Stein 8790 Davis Blvd. NRH, TX 76180 4. Danny Wagner 21755 ventura blvd ste 491 Woodland Hills, Ca 91364 5. G. Antonio Cortizo Geminis 129-6 Colonia Contry C.P. 64860 Monterrey N.L. Mexico ******************************************************************** NOTE: Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you a dollar and always keep an eye on the local postings of this file... Just to make sure that everyone is playing the game fairly. You know where your name should be..... *** AGAIN, HONESTY IS THE BEST THING WE HAVE GOING FOR US ON THIS PLAN. *** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the money to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent the 5 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10000! All the lists are re-distributed as soon as the money is received. And you can't lose anyway! If only 6 people send you the money, you are alredy winning 1 buck!
From: i455@stio1 (Bergmann Winfried) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: need help with OS Project Builder Date: 30 Sep 1996 10:49:30 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <52o8jq$jsq@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <52db10$csk@news.missouri.edu> c671143@showme.missouri.edu wrote: : I'm having a terrible time getting anything to compile. For instance I : pulled PPP_Monitor off the Net, and I can't get it to compile at all under : project builder. I get all types of errors about how it can't find files. I : don't know if I'm doing anything wrong. I'm new to NeXT programming so I'm : probably doing something very simple. Can someone help me out? Thanks. The programming API of OpenStep has changed in some parts. The source code you got is for NeXTSTEP. You can covert it to OS, but it's very time consuming (esp. if you are not the author of the program). It's better to get a compiled version of PPP_Monitor. If you need to convert the source, take a look at the documentation (in /NextLibrary/Documentation) -- ========================================================================== Winfried Bergmann | Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page bergmann@rz-ppp-12.fh-wuerzburg.de|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.unix.osf.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.sys5.misc,comp.unix.xenix.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer.misc,comp.os.misc From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Sender: Aero_Dragon@HotMail.com (Aero Dragon) Date: 30 Sep 1996 08:57:33 EDT Control: cancel <52o8vd$pp8@news.mty.itesm.mx> Subject: cmsg cancel <52o8vd$pp8@news.mty.itesm.mx> Message-ID: <cancel.52o8vd$pp8@news.mty.itesm.mx> Spam/MMF cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was --Do you need money? Read this!
From: Oliver Seidel <os10000@cus.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.unix.osf.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.sys5.misc,comp.unix.xenix.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer.misc,comp.os.misc Subject: Re: --Do you need money? Read this! Followup-To: news.admin.net-abuse.misc Date: 30 Sep 1996 14:21:51 +0100 Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <xjaiv8wm93k.fsf@taurus.cus.cam.ac.uk> References: <52o8vd$pp8@news.mty.itesm.mx> (followup set ...) Your post has been forwarded to: Bureau of Consumer Protection (dmedine@ftc.gov) Fraud Dept. of IRS (1040fraud@irs.gov) National Fraud Information Center (nfic@internetmci.com) These agencies are interested in unreported taxable income and fraud in general. In your posting you claimed large incomes - this will be of interest to the IRS - you can look forward to an audit!!! Your postmaster has also been notified of your illegal actions - you can probably look forward to having your account closed.
From: simonson@schlitz.u-strasbg.fr (Thomas Simonson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Key equivalent to launch LaTeX from Edit? Date: 30 Sep 1996 15:01:35 GMT Organization: CRC - Universite Louis Pasteur - Strasbourg France Message-ID: <52oncf$ppj@news.u-strasbg.fr> Dear Netters, I want to launch latex from Edit with a keystroke, without going into the Services/TeXview menu. There appears to be a Key equivalent ("R") that allows one to "Reopen dvi", judging from the /NextLibrary/TeX/tex/src/texview/TeXview.service file. However the Key equivalent doesn't show up on the menu button, and doesn't work when tried... I can't find anything in the manuals.... Can anyone help me out???? Very gratefully, Tom Simonson -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Simonson --- Laboratoire de Biologie Structurale, C.N.R.S., Strasbourg paper mail: I.G.B.M.C. e-mail: simonson@zinfandel.u-strasbg.fr
From: antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Key equivalent to launch LaTeX from Edit? Date: 30 Sep 1996 18:50:21 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <52p4pd$fpi@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <52oncf$ppj@news.u-strasbg.fr> simonson@schlitz.u-strasbg.fr (Thomas Simonson) wrote: % % % Dear Netters, % % I want to launch latex from Edit with a keystroke, without going % into the Services/TeXview menu. % % There appears to be a Key equivalent ("R") that allows one % to "Reopen dvi", judging from the % /NextLibrary/TeX/tex/src/texview/TeXview.service file. % % However the Key equivalent doesn't show up on the menu button, % and doesn't work when tried... You have to set up these keys yourself, from preferences.app. I use cmd-z to retex, cmd-Z to latex. Of course, there may be better choices ! Salut, ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/
From: Victoria Welch <vikki@seastar.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT (Black Cube) Newbie questions. Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:22:27 -0400 Organization: Welch Research Laboratories Message-ID: <324FBB83.280B@seastar.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: Victoria Welch <vikki@seastar.org> Hi Everyone ! Please forgive the length of this, but I am probably including more than necessary, but I am not sure about that, I *am* a newbie and somewhat confused :-). I've lusted after a NeXT for years and I'm glad to have it, but not happy about how it came to me :-(. Long story, but I inhereted a NeXT Cube (68040/25MHz, 16M RAM) apparently running 3.1(?!) with 1 17" mono monitor. It has (internally) a MO drive but no floppy. Gads LOTS of questions here :-). The machine was acqured by the person I got it from used and apparently stripped down in the software department so it could be used as a web server. What I want it for is to play with the DSP :-). Apparently the Sound Kit has been removed (it only has a 350M hard drive). I got about 150 pounds of books with it and I have been reading them, but it seems that they assume a given starting point, so we are having to do a lot of interpeting and searching and guessing :-). Slow progress :-). It is a different version of Unix than I am used to, so there is a learning curve involved. Yes, we sre having fun :-) ! So far I have gotten it mostly working on my LAN, but there is much learning to be done here to get mail and news and such working. I can telnet into nethost and ping systems on the LAN, but not beyond that, so there is something in the local DNS that I haven't found yet.. It came with several MO diskettes (256M) with apparently nothing of significance on them. Also one with 1.0 Software and another with 2.0 software ( I suspect these will be good for storage once I clean them off :-). I also have 2 CDROMs, one is the Release 3.0 and the other is the Nextstep 3.1 Developer, which I am assuming is the developement tools, not the OS ?!?. Problem(s) are that I haven't found a CDROM drive that the NeXT box is happy with yet (Reno didn't work and the NEC MBR-7 *almost* worked (lots of retries, gets a lot of it, but on any significant sized copy, it fails ultimately)). I have an old Toshiba 3401 in the old 486dx2/66 box that I am going to pull and figure out how to cable in and hopefully that will solve the problem. I had originally planned to NFS mount the CDROMs on my Linux box, but had no luck figuring out what format these are in (didn't work as ISO9660 or anything else I tried). Perhaps I just haven't found the information on the format in the PILES of books yet :-). Multiple hardware (probably oddball :) questions and some software questions. Hardware: It came with a SCSI Floppy and it does seem to work, but it keeps getting "hits" about once a second while attached to the SCSI (external) buss (irritating over time :-) [ by that I mean that the light on the drive pulses and the drive "ticks" ]. The drive is a PLI TurboFloppy 1.4, if anyone has any info about this, I'd sure appreciate hearing about it ! What kind of floppy could be mounted in the cube ? There is a knock out panel at the front top of the cube, not the size of a floppy, but hopefully some standard 3.5" floppy would fit / work in there. Actually I am not sure a floppy is completely necessary, but I do have one NeXT floppy diskette with CDROM driver updates for the 2.0 release as near as I can tell... Yup, I am confused :-)... Hardware: Finally found the right tool to take the cube apart and need to do that to clean up the MO drive (it runs intermitantly, sometimes) and while I'm in there I have a Quantum Fireball 540M I want to plug in there, which *should* work from what I get from the FAQ. The FAQ seems quite old and I am confused by a number of things. Apparently the current release of the OS is around 4.0 (I've been reading through this newsgroup(s) so I've acquired a bit of knowledge :), so I'm a long way behind :-). I'd like to upgrade it, but with a machine no longer manufactured, I am wondering if I can and what the possibility of affording it is (this is my hobby machine, I'm into MIDI, etc and playing with the DSP). With the machine originally selling for around $15K, I'm afraid to even think about what a replacement OS will cost. Is it still available for original NeXT CUbes and is it likely to be affordable by mere mortals ? Thanks very much for wading through my confusion and your time in amswering these questions. Take care, Vikki. -- Vikki Welch, Sys/Net/WebAdmin Seastar.org, WV9K, DoD#-13 Welch Research Laboratories | Senior Apps Design Engineer. 316 West Benson Street, Ste 2100 | Work: http://www.seastar.org Decatur, GA 30030 - 404-371-1614 | Pers: http://www.seastar.org/~vikki
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