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From: diego@conga.super.unam.mx (Diego Zamboni) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: gcc-2.7.2 on NS3.3-Sparcstation 5? Date: 1 Jul 1996 01:13:40 GMT Organization: Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico Message-ID: <4r78o4$h63@news.mty.itesm.mx> Hi: I wanted to compile gcc-2.7.2 on my Sparcstation 5 running NS3.3, both to have a recent version of gcc and to be able to compile g77, the GNU FORTRAN compiler. However, apparently gcc doesn't yet support NEXTSTEP running on sparc processors. Does anybody have any ideas of getting around this problem? Thanks a lot, and best regards. -- Diego Martin Zamboni Jefe del Area de Seguridad en C'omputo diego@conga.super.unam.mx DGSCA, UNAM, Mexico. Tel. (52-5)622-81-69 (NeXTMail ok) Fax. (52-5)622-80-43 WWW home page: http://ds5000.super.unam.mx/~diego/ PGP key: finger diego@conga.super.unam.mx
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 1 Jul 1996 04:15:16 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4r7jck$744@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. 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From: "Andrew M. Priasmoro" <ampriasm@students.wisc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Mouse. Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 01:25:13 -0500 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Message-ID: <31D76F49.4F10@students.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Does NeXT mouse use bus type connector? If not, what type of connector does it use? Does any one know if I could use NeXT mouse for IBM PC system? Thanks in advance. Andrew.
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SLIP under 3.3/Intel? Date: 30 Jun 1996 22:15:23 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4r6u9r$13p@turbocat.snafu.de> References: <4r6hgs$6eu@news.service.uci.edu> Steve Frank <safrank@uci.edu> wrote: [PPP problems] Are you using the latest drivers? (Portserver and isa serial ports) > Another reason for using SLIP is that one ISP I may use (ibm.net) only > allows SLIP, no PPP support is available. That is no reason. Try another ISP. PPP is better than SLIP. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail,MIME)
From: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [Q] Why shoud I buy 4.0? Message-ID: <1996Jul1.171133.46687@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> Date: 1 Jul 96 17:11:33 MET Distribution: world Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland I just got an offer in Germany that the NS 4.0 Acadamic will cost me about 300 US$. At the moment I'm still running 3.3 at home on my black slab and I'm thinking of upgrading. But - I have no idea what I get for the money!!! NeXT seems to give out no big information about improvements or whatever. Or do I only pay 300 US$ to get another name for the product?? Any advice??? Daniel -- *************************************************************** Daniel Haas Physikalisches Institut Universitaet Basel email: haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (no NeXT- or MIME-mail please) smail: D. Haas, Kreuzstrasse 150, D-79540 Loerrach, Germany ***************************************************************
From: Yvan Frey <yvan_frey@studio.disney.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Novell connection dies after a while Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 15:31:43 -0700 Organization: Walt Disney Pictures & TV Message-ID: <31D851CF.42F8@studio.disney.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: yvan_frey@studio.disney.com Hi there! We're running NEXTSTEP on Intel and have setup Novell connectivity. (I had to edit /etc/rc and add a frame type parameter to the npsd call. Then it worked.) Unfortuately, now the connection is dropped after a while and the login panel shows up again. I've read about similar, yet quite different problems (connection dies when copying files that are more than 1M on a token ring net). Does or did anybody experience the same? Any hints? NEXTSTEP is running on a Compaq 5133, with the build in ethernet controller and I'm using the latest drivers provided by NeXT on www.next.com. Thanks in advance, Yvan Frey Walt Disney Pictures & TV
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP: Pentium 166MHz vs. Sun SparcStation 5 Date: 1 Jul 1996 23:42:29 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Message-ID: <4r9np5$7r5@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/ Hello: Could you please comment on the advantages disadvantages of getting a Pentium 166MHz vs. a Sun SparcStation 5? The machine will be used for research in Computer-Aided Design, Graphics (solidThinking/Renderman, AutoCAD, Microstation) as well as a web server (with WebObjects). I would like to start exploring VRML, Java, and video conferencing. Both will be configured to be compatible with NS/OpenStep: Dual Boot partitions. 20" Monitor 64MB RAM 2 Gig HD + another external (for second OS) SCSI Controller Ethernet Card Decent Video Graphics Card The Sun can either have windows emulation (wabi???) or a PC Card. Issues to consider: OS (Unix vs. DOS), Price/Bang for the Buck, Raw Speed, Software availability, Compatibility, hardware robustness, abilities to run a Web Server, Video/Graphics, Future directions (NEO/Solaris vs. Windows 95/NT). Your feedback will be greatly appreciated. -- Wassim M. Jabi Doctoral Program in Architecture University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Blvd Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069 wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail) http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep is finally here Date: 2 Jul 1996 03:22:39 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Message-ID: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/ Since I did not see any postings on this yet, here goes: It seems, finally, the OpenStep has arrived: Check out NeXT's and Optimal-Object's Web Pages. http://www.next.com/ http://www.optimal-object.com/ They both now have new information on OpenStep and links to how to (pre)order it. One thing I never realized before is that OpenStep 4.0 for Mach is binary compatible with NEXTSTEP 3.3. That is really good because I can continue to use all my 3.3 applications even if they are not upgraded. -- Wassim M. Jabi Doctoral Program in Architecture University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Blvd Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069 wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail) http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: dale@wco.com (Dale Tersey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Do you own a socalled `refurbished' B&W Megapixel monitor? Date: 2 Jul 1996 05:10:17 GMT Organization: Computer Recycling Project Message-ID: <4raavp$c7f@news.wco.com> References: <DtLzGB.K7E@AWT.NL> In article <DtLzGB.K7E@AWT.NL>, G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda) says: > >If you do, please contact me. I'd like to know your experiences. > >-- >Gerben Wierda, > Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- >en Technologiebeleid. Javastraat 42, 's-Gravenhage > Staff member Advisory Council for Science and >Technology Policy, The Hague, The Netherlands >Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 > >"One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can >question." The Computer Recycling Project has received a number of VERY DIM Megapixel monochrome monitors. We were able to successfully refurbish most of them by using a "zapitator" on the CRT to blow the oxides off of the exiter filaments. Apparently these monitors are very prone to oxidation of the filaments which greatly reduces the picture brightness. A few of the monitors, however, didn't come up very far. - Dale
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Why should I buy 4.0? Date: 2 Jul 1996 02:52:31 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4ra2tf$ha1@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1996Jul1.171133.46687@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas) wrote: > I just got an offer in Germany that the NS 4.0 Acadamic will cost > me about 300 US$. At the moment I'm still running 3.3 at home on > my black slab and I'm thinking of upgrading. > > But - I have no idea what I get for the money!!! This is the big problem right now. NeXT seems to have nothing much to say on the new product. I have some idea of some things that are in NeXTSTEP 4.0, and it's possible that those will be well worth $300 to NeXTSTEP users. It'll probably be worth it to me. But until NeXT wants to give us some idea of what's in the new release, it'd probably be best to delay making any orders. If you're running NS-3.3, it would be a good idea to get patch1 for it (which you can ftp from NeXT, if you have enough disk space to hold it all). That did seem to fix up a number of minor problems with NS-3.3 that make it much better for some users. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Puzzled about OpenStep Date: 2 Jul 1996 12:42:40 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Message-ID: <4rb5g0$qc@netty.york.ac.uk> O.K. - so I took a look at the OpenStep pages. It says that OpenStep is currently available for Mach and Windows NT. So far so good - BUT, it says that the developer stuff for Windows NT won't be available until later. Given that we need to recompile stuff to make it run under Windows NT then what use is the OpenStep for Windows without the compiler ? Surely it's totally useless or have I missed the point. Supposing I get a copy, what can I do other than install it and then stare at thhe screen wishing I had a compiler ? hmmm.... -bat.
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep is finally here Date: 2 Jul 1996 04:17:14 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4ra7sa$ha1@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) wrote: > Since I did not see any postings on this yet, here goes: > > It seems, finally, the OpenStep has arrived: > Check out NeXT's and Optimal-Object's Web Pages. > http://www.next.com/ > http://www.optimal-object.com/ > They both now have new information on OpenStep and links to how > to (pre)order it. > > One thing I never realized before is that OpenStep 4.0 for Mach > is binary compatible with NEXTSTEP 3.3. That is really good > because I can continue to use all my 3.3 applications even if > they are not upgraded. If NeXT lives up to it's past practices, it should be true that almost all NS-3.x applications will continue to run under NS-4.0. I doubt it has to have been compiled on NeXTSTEP 3.3 (but I could be wrong). However, it is less likely that the older NS-2.x applications will continue to work. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: aisbell@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Do you own a socalled `refurbished' B&W Megapixel monitor? Date: 2 Jul 1996 15:02:04 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <4rbdlc$4h@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> References: <DtLzGB.K7E@AWT.NL> <4raavp$c7f@news.wco.com> dale@wco.com (Dale Tersey) wrote: > The Computer Recycling Project has received a number of VERY DIM Megapixel > monochrome monitors. We were able to successfully refurbish most of them > by using a "zapitator" on the CRT to blow the oxides off of the exiter filaments. Doesn't filament oxidation suggest the presence of oxygen which might be due to the reported vacuum leaks of some of these monitors? If so, won't reoxidation occur leading to dimming? -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@cubicsol.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: aisbell@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Puzzled about OpenStep Date: 2 Jul 1996 15:12:59 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <4rbe9r$4h@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> References: <4rb5g0$qc@netty.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) wrote: > O.K. - so I took a look at the OpenStep pages. It says that OpenStep > is currently available for Mach and Windows NT. So far so good - BUT, it > says that the developer stuff for Windows NT won't be available until > later. > Given that we need to recompile stuff to make it run under Windows NT then > what use is the OpenStep for Windows without the compiler ? Surely it's > totally useless or have I missed the point. Supposing I get a copy, what > can I do other than install it and then stare at thhe screen wishing I had > a compiler ? NeXT's Web site is offering a sneak preview (beta version) of the OPENSTEP/NT development tools which would be necessary to build an OPENSTEP/NT app. I understand that Microsoft Visual C++ must be installed as well because the NEXTSTEP linker (ld) hasn't been ported yet. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@cubicsol.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: Stefan Leuker <sl@skynet.oph.rwth-aachen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Puzzled about OpenStep Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 15:50:51 +0200 Organization: RWTH Aachen Message-ID: <31D9293B.7B8D6549@skynet.oph.rwth-aachen.de> References: <4rb5g0$qc@netty.york.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -bat. wrote: > > Given that we need to recompile stuff to make it run under Windows NT then > what use is the OpenStep for Windows without the compiler ? Surely it's > totally useless or have I missed the point. Supposing I get a copy, what > can I do other than install it and then stare at thhe screen wishing I had > a compiler ? > You can build your GUI and compile for NT on MachOS, given that you have the extendet OS/NT release of the dev tools. That's what I heard. Stefan
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Disharmony between NS3.3 & OPNS/Mach development (was Re: OpenStep is finally here) Date: 2 Jul 1996 16:49:17 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <4rbjud$keo@news3.digex.net> References: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <4ra7sa$ha1@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > If NeXT lives up to it's past practices, it should be true that almost all NS-3.x applications will continue to run under NS-4.0. I doubt it has to have been compiled on NeXTSTEP 3.3 (but I could be wrong). That is the ONE big annoying thing about OPENSTEP 4, for Mach. As far as I understand it, one cannot simply download Alexandra 0.82 source from the net, and compile it as a NS3.3 binary on an OPENSTEP4/Mach machine... There is no compatibility switch...unless you consider a dual boot machine that... This is a big annoyance...some projects are not worth converting, while others are, it would be nice to be able to use both when either or makes more sense... I'm guessing there is probably some clever way, one could install all the dev tools, and libraries, and headers, etc...from NS3.3 dev, onto OPNS4/Mach (eg I have already copied IB and ProjectBuilder apps from the 3.2 release and simply renamed their wrappers and binaries to IB_3.2.app...because they were the last versions that properly converted pre 3.0 IB.proj files...). I imagine it would be a hell of chore to do once, but perhaps some kind of copy script could be whipped up to allow this...making alternate locations for the 3.x headers, etc...??? Has anyone contemplated this??? -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep is finally here Date: 2 Jul 1996 11:10:03 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <sams.836329346@shellx> References: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <4ra7sa$ha1@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: >However, it is less likely that the older NS-2.x applications >will continue to work. I suspect you are incorrect. In the past, NeXT provided backwards compatibility by taking care that the shared libraries (shlibs) were compatible. Things only broke when NeXT pruned out undocumented functions or got rid of ugly undocumented side effects that people had reverse engineered and relied upon. Usually, these features were replaced with a formal, clean way of accomplishing the same thing. For 4.0, the shlibs will be grossly different. In order to ensure backwards compatibility, NeXT will ship 2 sets of shlibs, one for Openstep and one for 3.3 apps. The 3.3 shlib is probably very little modified from the one you are running now, and I would expect near 100% compatibility. If an app runs on 3.3, I would have very high cofidence that it will run under 4.0. The down side of this is that shlibs are large and with many applications accessing them, they tend to stay hot (ie paged in in the virtual memory system) If you run both 4.0 compiled apps (ie those from next like workspace) and 3.3 apps (ie every non-next app you currently run) you will keep a lot of shlib vm hot with the duplicated functionality. This is why you can expect practical ram requirements to go way up. Note: I could be wrong about all this. I haven't seen the released 4.0 software. Actually this is pure speculation. But I'd be surprised if I'm way wrong. 8^) cheers, -sam
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WebObjects and Academia ? Date: 2 Jul 1996 19:53:46 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Message-ID: <4rbuoa$kl8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <4q010i$mc@news.next.com> <Pine.HPP.3.91.960618155516.15451C-100000@hphalle0h.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <4q6gl5$f3r@bignews.shef.ac.uk> >> > WebObjects is free for academic users. In article <4q6gl5$f3r@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes: >I just unpacked my copy and it comes with EOUser and EODeveloper... >And EOF1.1J I have NS/Intel 3.2 (Academic) and have painfully been living without OmniWeb 2.x since it requires either NS 3.3 or EOF. Could I get WebObjects Pro or WebObjects Enterprise (free) and use the EOF to run OmniWeb 2.x? I didn't upgrade to 3.3 when it came out since 4.0 was due out so soon and I can't afford to upgrade every 6-months to a year (even for only $300). But not it looks like 4.0 doesn't have much different worth upgrading for either, at least at the moment since there aren't many OpenStep compatible apps yet. Any recommendations for what a 3.2 academic user should do? -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Crossposting to .software since we're talking about OmniWeb too.)
From: ab@purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: Pentium 166MHz vs. Sun SparcStation 5 Date: 2 Jul 1996 22:17:34 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <4rc75u$mn1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <4r9np5$7r5@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) wrote: >Could you please comment on the advantages disadvantages of getting >a Pentium 166MHz vs. a Sun SparcStation 5? >Issues to consider: >OS (Unix vs. DOS), Price/Bang for the Buck, Raw Speed, Software >availability, Compatibility, hardware robustness, abilities to run a >Web Server, Video/Graphics, Future directions (NEO/Solaris vs. Windows >95/NT). Under NEXTSTEP (that is, if both machines run it), many of your issues are nearly non-issues. There are older NEXTSTEP (actually NeXTSTEP or earlier :-) programs that won't run on the Sun, but programs you compile yourself or of recent vintage will run the same on each machine. UNIX programs you have source to will work the same on both. Web servers probably fall into that category. As far as video hardware goes, it depends on what you're doing and how fast your drivers are. Sun hardware's pretty solid, but not necessarily fast. (It's not slow.) I'd imagine you can get more raw CPU for your buck from a Pentium, but I don't know. My SPARC 5/85 comes in at about 81.7 MIPS on NWBench (about 5 times a black NeXT). I'd guess a 110 is nearly linearly faster. How's a Pentium do? (I like NXbench, but it isn't compiled 4-way. :-( ) ab
From: Alex <amstar@mail.phonet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Notebook: 486DX2/50, 8.4"Active Color, 4/200 - $820 Date: 27 Jun 1996 15:35:46 GMT Organization: American Starlex Message-ID: <4qu9oi$uqg@iorich.phonet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ATTENTION: reply to sales@amstar.com Following is a pricelist for SHARP notebook computers with basic specs only. Complete specs are available upon request. Shipping & handling are not included PC6781: 386SL20, 10.4"Mono, 2/80 - $320 PC6781-4: Same model with 4M RAM - $400 PC6781-6: Same model with 6M RAM - $430 PC6781-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $510 PC6881: 386SL25, 8.4"Active Color, 2/80 - $500 PC6881-4: Same model with 4M RAM - $580 PC6881-6: Same model with 6M RAM - $610 PC6881-8: Same model with 16M RAM - $690 PC7700: 486SX25, 10"Mono, 4/124 - $550 PC7700-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $660 PC7750: 486DX33, 10"Mono, 4/124 - $600 PC7750-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $710 PC8150: 486DX33, 9.4"Color, 4/200 - $710 PC8150-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $820 PC8650: 486DX33, 8.4"Active Color, 4/200 - $790 PC8650-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $900 PC8650II: 486DX2/50, 8.4"Active Color, 4/200 - $820 PC8650II-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $930 PC8660: 486DX2/50, 9.4"Active Color, 4/320 - $990 PC8660-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $1,100 PC8700: 486DX2/50, 8.4"Active Color, 4/250, Sound - $990 PC8700-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $1,100 PC8700-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,190 PC8700-16: Same model with 16M RAM - $1,300 PC8800: 486DX4/75, 10.4"Color, 8/500, Sound - $1,330 PC8800-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,440 PC8800-16: Same model with 16M RAM - $1,530 PC8900: 486DX4/75, 10.4"Active Color, 8/320, Sound - $1,430 PC8900-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,540 PC8900-16: Same model with 16M RAM - $1,630 PC3010: 486DX2/66, 10.4"Color, 4/320 - $980 / (new): $1,200 PC3010-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $1,090 / (new): $1,310 PC3010-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,080 / (new): $1,400 PC3050U3: 486DX2/66, 10.4"Color, 8/320, Sound, Modem - $1,200 PC3050U3-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,310 PC3050U5: 486DX2/66, 10.4"Color, 8/500, Sound, Modem - $1,250 PC3050U5-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,360 PC3050U5-16: Same model with 16M RAM - $1,450 PC3020: 586/100, 10.4"Color, 8/515 - $1,330 PC3020-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,440 PC3020-16: Same model with 16M RAM - $1,530 PC3060: 586/100, 10.4"Color, 8/515, Sound, Modem - $1,450 PC3060-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,560 PC3060-16: Same model with 16M RAM - $1,650 PC3030 (new): P100, 11.3"Color, 8/515 - $2,050 PC3030-16 (new): Same model with 16M RAM - $2,460 PC3070 (new): P100, 11.3"Color, 16/1.1, Sound - $2,620 PC9000 (new): P100, 11.3"Color, 8/1.1, 6x CD-ROM - $2,800 PC9000-16 (new): Same model with 12M RAM - $3,000 PC9030 (new): P120, 11.3"Active Color, 8/1.1, 6x CD-ROM - $3,650 PC9030-16 (new): Same model with 16M RAM - $3,850 PC9070 (new): P133, 12.1"Active Color, 16/1.1, 4x CD-ROM - $5,050 All units are refurbished By Sharp with 30 day warranty (unless indicated as new) UPGRADES & ACCESSORIES: Memory: 2M $80 / 4M $110 / 8M $200 / 16M $380 / 32M $740 (except for 3030/3070) PCMCIA Modems: 2,400 - $25 / 14,400 - $70 / 28,800 - $155 PCMCIA CD-ROM drives: $200 & up. Notebook Cases: $15 & up Review on http://www.pcworld.com/reprints/sharp.htm American Starlex International Company 7551 Main Street, Suite 207, Ralston, NE 68127 Phone (402) 596-0431 Fax (402) 596-0432 Internet http://www.amstar.com/ E-mail sales@amstar.com Last update 6/19/96
From: Alex <amstar@mail.phonet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Notebook: 386SL25, 8.4"Active Color, 2/80 - $500 Date: 27 Jun 1996 15:34:44 GMT Organization: American Starlex Message-ID: <4qu9mk$uqg@iorich.phonet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ATTENTION: reply to sales@amstar.com Following is a pricelist for SHARP notebook computers with basic specs only. Complete specs are available upon request. Shipping & handling are not included PC6781: 386SL20, 10.4"Mono, 2/80 - $320 PC6781-4: Same model with 4M RAM - $400 PC6781-6: Same model with 6M RAM - $430 PC6781-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $510 PC6881: 386SL25, 8.4"Active Color, 2/80 - $500 PC6881-4: Same model with 4M RAM - $580 PC6881-6: Same model with 6M RAM - $610 PC6881-8: Same model with 16M RAM - $690 PC7700: 486SX25, 10"Mono, 4/124 - $550 PC7700-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $660 PC7750: 486DX33, 10"Mono, 4/124 - $600 PC7750-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $710 PC8150: 486DX33, 9.4"Color, 4/200 - $710 PC8150-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $820 PC8650: 486DX33, 8.4"Active Color, 4/200 - $790 PC8650-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $900 PC8650II: 486DX2/50, 8.4"Active Color, 4/200 - $820 PC8650II-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $930 PC8660: 486DX2/50, 9.4"Active Color, 4/320 - $990 PC8660-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $1,100 PC8700: 486DX2/50, 8.4"Active Color, 4/250, Sound - $990 PC8700-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $1,100 PC8700-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,190 PC8700-16: Same model with 16M RAM - $1,300 PC8800: 486DX4/75, 10.4"Color, 8/500, Sound - $1,330 PC8800-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,440 PC8800-16: Same model with 16M RAM - $1,530 PC8900: 486DX4/75, 10.4"Active Color, 8/320, Sound - $1,430 PC8900-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,540 PC8900-16: Same model with 16M RAM - $1,630 PC3010: 486DX2/66, 10.4"Color, 4/320 - $980 / (new): $1,200 PC3010-8: Same model with 8M RAM - $1,090 / (new): $1,310 PC3010-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,080 / (new): $1,400 PC3050U3: 486DX2/66, 10.4"Color, 8/320, Sound, Modem - $1,200 PC3050U3-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,310 PC3050U5: 486DX2/66, 10.4"Color, 8/500, Sound, Modem - $1,250 PC3050U5-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,360 PC3050U5-16: Same model with 16M RAM - $1,450 PC3020: 586/100, 10.4"Color, 8/515 - $1,330 PC3020-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,440 PC3020-16: Same model with 16M RAM - $1,530 PC3060: 586/100, 10.4"Color, 8/515, Sound, Modem - $1,450 PC3060-12: Same model with 12M RAM - $1,560 PC3060-16: Same model with 16M RAM - $1,650 PC3030 (new): P100, 11.3"Color, 8/515 - $2,050 PC3030-16 (new): Same model with 16M RAM - $2,460 PC3070 (new): P100, 11.3"Color, 16/1.1, Sound - $2,620 PC9000 (new): P100, 11.3"Color, 8/1.1, 6x CD-ROM - $2,800 PC9000-16 (new): Same model with 12M RAM - $3,000 PC9030 (new): P120, 11.3"Active Color, 8/1.1, 6x CD-ROM - $3,650 PC9030-16 (new): Same model with 16M RAM - $3,850 PC9070 (new): P133, 12.1"Active Color, 16/1.1, 4x CD-ROM - $5,050 All units are refurbished By Sharp with 30 day warranty (unless indicated as new) UPGRADES & ACCESSORIES: Memory: 2M $80 / 4M $110 / 8M $200 / 16M $380 / 32M $740 (except for 3030/3070) PCMCIA Modems: 2,400 - $25 / 14,400 - $70 / 28,800 - $155 PCMCIA CD-ROM drives: $200 & up. Notebook Cases: $15 & up Review on http://www.pcworld.com/reprints/sharp.htm American Starlex International Company 7551 Main Street, Suite 207, Ralston, NE 68127 Phone (402) 596-0431 Fax (402) 596-0432 Internet http://www.amstar.com/ E-mail sales@amstar.com Last update 6/19/96
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disharmony between NS3.3 & OPNS/Mach development (was Re: OpenStep is finally here) Date: 2 Jul 1996 20:21:17 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4rc0bt$ctc@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <4ra7sa$ha1@usenet.rpi.edu> <4rbjud$keo@news3.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > > If NeXT lives up to it's past practices, it should be true that > > almost all NS-3.x applications will continue to run under > > NS-4.0. I doubt it has to have been compiled on NeXTSTEP 3.3 > > (but I could be wrong). > > That is the ONE big annoying thing about OPENSTEP 4, for Mach. > As far as I understand it, one cannot simply download Alexandra > 0.82 source from the net, and compile it as a NS3.3 binary on an > OPENSTEP4/Mach machine... I think that's been true of other major-version switches, such as NS-2.x to NS-3.x. There's a more significant amount of work for NS-3.x to NS-4.x, but the expectation is that the work will be worth it (at least for those apps which would make sense in an OpenStep/WinNT or OpenStep/Solaris environment). > There is no compatibility switch...unless you consider a dual > boot machine that... This is a big annoyance...some projects > are not worth converting, while others are, it would be nice to > be able to use both when either or makes more sense... I must admit that when I think of NS-4.0, I keep thinking I should buy yet another machine to run it on... :-) (as if four nextstep machines aren't enough for one person...) > I'm guessing there is probably some clever way, one could install > all the dev tools, and libraries, and headers, etc...from NS3.3 > dev, onto OPNS4/Mach (eg I have already copied IB and ProjectBuilder > apps from the 3.2 release and simply renamed their wrappers and > binaries to IB_3.2.app...because they were the last versions that > properly converted pre 3.0 IB.proj files...). I imagine it would > be a hell of chore to do once, but perhaps some kind of copy > script could be whipped up to allow this...making alternate > locations for the 3.x headers, etc...??? I imagine this is more work than it's worth (even though I agree it'd be nice). On NeXT hardware it isn't all that hard to have a dual-boot arrangement for those apps you need to recompile and you don't want to convert to NS-4.0. Presumably you don't need to recompile such things very often. (although your example of Alexandra is something that one might still be making changes to on a regular basis) --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Why shoud I buy 4.0? Date: 2 Jul 1996 20:36:00 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4rc17g$ctc@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <1996Jul1.171133.46687@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas) wrote: > I just got an offer in Germany that the NS 4.0 Acadamic will cost > me about 300 US$. At the moment I'm still running 3.3 at home on > my black slab and I'm thinking of upgrading. > > But - I have no idea what I get for the money!!! To get some idea, check out: http://www.next.com/OPENSTEP/Products/OS_Mach/OS_Mach.html --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Luke_Howard@inter.net.au (Luke Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Puzzled about OpenStep Date: 3 Jul 1996 01:13:25 GMT Organization: Australian Business Access Pty Ltd Distribution: world Message-ID: <4rchfl$iiq@tiger.aba.net.au> References: <4rbe9r$4h@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> > NeXT's Web site is offering a sneak preview (beta version) of the > OPENSTEP/NT development tools which would be necessary to build an > OPENSTEP/NT app. I understand that Microsoft Visual C++ must be installed as > well because the NEXTSTEP linker (ld) hasn't been ported yet. You need the Microsoft linker, yes, although you don't really need the rest of VC++. Cygnus have ported the GNU ld to NT, so it may be possible to use this. I wouldn't mind trying it actually. -- Luke Howard lukeh@xedoc.com Xedoc Software Development www.xedoc.com
From: Stefan Leuker <sl@skynet.oph.rwth-aachen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WebObjects and Academia ? Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 05:20:11 +0200 Organization: RWTH Aachen Message-ID: <31D9E6EB.7CEE307E@skynet.oph.rwth-aachen.de> References: <4q010i$mc@news.next.com> <Pine.HPP.3.91.960618155516.15451C-100000@hphalle0h.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <4q6gl5$f3r@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <4rbuoa$kl8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Karl Pfleger wrote: > > not it looks like 4.0 doesn't have much different worth upgrading for either, > at least at the moment since there aren't many OpenStep compatible apps yet. > There will be :-) > Any recommendations for what a 3.2 academic user should do? > Well, upgrade. Then you are up to date again, and you might migrate to win/NT :-] Bye Stefan
From: robert@elastica.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep is finally here Date: 02 Jul 1996 23:06:17 -0400 Organization: Digital Gateway Systems Sender: robert@justine Message-ID: <fbuhyxcgm.fsf@elastica.com> References: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) writes: > > Since I did not see any postings on this yet, here goes: > > It seems, finally, the OpenStep has arrived: > Check out NeXT's and Optimal-Object's Web Pages. > http://www.next.com/ > http://www.optimal-object.com/ > They both now have new information on OpenStep and links to how to > (pre)order it. > > One thing I never realized before is that OpenStep 4.0 for Mach is > binary compatible with NEXTSTEP 3.3. That is really good because I can > continue to use all my 3.3 applications even if they are not upgraded. Well that's good because most of the ISV's aren't around to recompile anyway.
From: don@misckit.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disharmony between NS3.3 & OPNS/Mach development (was Re: OpenStep is finally here) Date: 3 Jul 1996 08:34:06 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <4rdb9u$fs4@news.xmission.com> References: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <4ra7sa$ha1@usenet.rpi.edu> <4rbjud$keo@news3.digex.net> <4rc0bt$ctc@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > > That is the ONE big annoying thing about OPENSTEP 4, for Mach. > > As far as I understand it, one cannot simply download Alexandra > > 0.82 source from the net, and compile it as a NS3.3 binary on an > > OPENSTEP4/Mach machine... > > I think that's been true of other major-version switches, such > as NS-2.x to NS-3.x. There's a more significant amount of work > for NS-3.x to NS-4.x, but the expectation is that the work will > be worth it (at least for those apps which would make sense in > an OpenStep/WinNT or OpenStep/Solaris environment). Yeah, I'd say that's a reasonable approach. > > There is no compatibility switch...unless you consider a dual > > boot machine [...] > > I'm guessing there is probably some clever way, one could install > > all the dev tools, and libraries, and headers, etc...from NS3.3 > > dev, onto OPNS4/Mach > I imagine this is more work than it's worth (even though I agree > it'd be nice). On NeXT hardware it isn't all that hard to have > a dual-boot arrangement for those apps you need to recompile and > you don't want to convert to NS-4.0. Presumably you don't need > to recompile such things very often. I'm with Garance here. Too much work for too little benefit. Of course, if someone _else_ wants to figure it out and hand the script out to all us netters, I'll be happy to use it. :-) Just to add my own $0.02, I've been converting stuff to OPENSTEP for a while now (using both PR1 and PR2) and I've found that the conversion scripts are surprisingly good--they do a decent job of understanding context, etc., which is fairly impressive. They also make some mistakes and give you some surprises... Unfortunately, the changes to OPENSTEP run so deep that the scripts still leave you with a *lot* of work to do. I don't have the final OPENSTEP release yet, but judging from my experiences, I would dare say that any significant app that isn't using the Foundation Kit already under 3.3 will be a real bitch to convert. Even simple little games can get you tearing your hair out... and the MiscKit is a holy terror! Progress _has_ been made on that front, though not as much as I'd like to have seen, and it has been a lot slower than I had expected it would be. At any rate, expect to see some new toys from me soon. For the MiscKit, the conversion is most certainly worth the effort! :-) I'll also be really interested to see how the final release pans out from both a stability and performance point of view. Those issues have slowed me down considerably to date...though I do expect the final release will be a big improvement in that area. -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WebObjects and Academia ? Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:39:10 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1996Jul3.083910.15931@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <4rbuoa$kl8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In article <4rbuoa$kl8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) writes: > I have NS/Intel 3.2 (Academic) and have painfully been living without > OmniWeb 2.x since it requires either NS 3.3 or EOF. Could I get WebObjects > Pro or WebObjects Enterprise (free) and use the EOF to run OmniWeb 2.x? OmniWeb just needs Foundation, not EOF. You can get Foundation by upgrading to 3.3/4.0, installing EOF, or by downloading the Foundation library from NeXTanswers. I suggest you do the latter. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: Pentium 166MHz vs. Sun SparcStation 5 Date: 3 Jul 1996 08:53:27 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <4rdce7$r4@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <4r9np5$7r5@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <4rc75u$mn1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> ab@purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) wrote: > I'd imagine you can get more raw CPU for your buck from a > Pentium, but I don't know. My SPARC 5/85 comes in at about > 81.7 MIPS on NWBench (about 5 times a black NeXT). I'd > guess a 110 is nearly linearly faster. How's a Pentium do? A Pentium-133 machine has about 120.5 VAX-MIPS on NXBench. A Pentium-166 should be 20 percent faster. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Computer Graphics Lab, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: hocker@waldo.com (Matthew Hocker) Subject: Re: Do you own a socalled `refurbished' B&W Megapixel monitor? Message-ID: <Dtxou5.7Bq@waldo.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Organization: The WaldoNet Group References: <DtLzGB.K7E@AWT.NL> <4raavp$c7f@news.wco.com> <4rbdlc$4h@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:56:29 GMT And what, pray tell, is a "zapitator"? Art Isbell (aisbell@cubicsol.com) wrote: : dale@wco.com (Dale Tersey) wrote: : > The Computer Recycling Project has received a number of VERY DIM Megapixel : > monochrome monitors. We were able to successfully refurbish most of them : > by using a "zapitator" on the CRT to blow the oxides off of the exiter : filaments. -- __ | Matthew Hocker, B.Eng (McGill) | /\_\ | "Believer in all things well-engineered" | BMW CCA #124947 \/_/ | hocker@waldo.com | AOPA #012475939 NeXTSTEP! | NeXTmail and MIME welcomed here | PP-ASEL
From: bleimeyer@mayo.edu (Robert Bleimeyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Nextstep on DELL Dell OptiPlex GXpro Date: 3 Jul 1996 16:06:22 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation Message-ID: <4re5pu$aar@tribune.mayo.edu> I'm considering a Dell OptiPlex GXpro as a new desktop. Has anyone had experience with loading NS 3.3 on one of these? ------------------------------------------------------ Robert R. Bleimeyer Mayo Foundation Research Computing Facility 200 SW First Street Rochester, MN 55905 USA Internet: bleimeyer.robert@mayo.edu ------------------------------------------------------
From: commonwealth@commonwealth.seanet.com (Commonwealth Land Title Company) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: rules... Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:36:24 LOCAL Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <commonwealth.27.00BC7CC8@commonwealth.seanet.com> What are the requirements to purchase NeXTStep 3.3 or Openstep 4.0 academic version? I, for instance, am not currently attending college, but I am registered and attended last quarter. Does this count? What kind of program do I need to be enrolled in to take advantage of this offer? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Do you own a socalled `refurbished' B&W Megapixel monitor? Date: 3 Jul 1996 18:50:47 GMT Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC. Message-ID: <4refe7$p3v@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <DtLzGB.K7E@AWT.NL> <4raavp$c7f@news.wco.com> <4rbdlc$4h@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <Dtxou5.7Bq@waldo.com> Cc: hocker@waldo.com In <Dtxou5.7Bq@waldo.com> Matthew Hocker wrote: > And what, pray tell, is a "zapitator"? > > > Art Isbell (aisbell@cubicsol.com) wrote: > : dale@wco.com (Dale Tersey) wrote: > > : > The Computer Recycling Project has received a number of VERY DIM Megapixel > : > monochrome monitors. We were able to successfully refurbish most of them > : > by using a "zapitator" on the CRT to blow the oxides off of the exiter > : filaments. > Sounds like a device right out of a Flash Gordon movie... -- Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] -- Home Page http://hades.tue.schwaben.de/~frank NeXTSTEP, Linux & PostScript Guy "In cantonese C++ is called C ga ga"
From: jdavis@spdc.ti.com (Joe Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Installation probs w/ ppp Date: 3 Jul 1996 19:34:37 GMT Organization: Texas Instruments Inc. Message-ID: <4rei0d$4b1@cauldron.spdc.ti.com> Hello all, I just recently installed a new internal HD to replace my old external 'airplane' (sounded like one). Unfortunately, it has been so long since I last installed ppp that I dont' remember the correct hoops that I had to jump through to get all of the permissions correct. My problem WAS that only root could run the ppp-up script - if I ran it from any other account, I couldn't access /dev/cufa. So, I changed the permissions on /dev/cufa to 666 so that anyone could access it. NOW, my problem is that ppp can access cufa, but when I get a connection and pppd starts up, i get an error of 'ioctl(TIOCSETD): not owner' and then it Exits. This doesn't happen when I run as root, however. Can someone please tell me what is going on? I don't know what device ioctl can't access and I don't know what to do. many thanks in advance. regards, jcd -- Joseph C. Davis, Ph.D. Texas Instruments, Inc Process Flow Synthesis P.O. Box 655012, MS 457 (214) 927-3805 Dallas, TX 75265
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199607032019.QAA09949@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 96 16:19:10 -0400 Subject: Is there a "dumb" ping for NeXT? Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com By "dumb" I mean a 'ping' which will respond either "is alive" or "is dead" or "no such host" VS the ping which continually bombards the stated host. TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info http://www.nerc.com/~luomat [ first stages of construction ]
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disharmony between NS3.3 & OPNS/Mach development (was Re: OpenStep is finally here) Date: 3 Jul 1996 18:44:55 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <4ref37$7gj@news4.digex.net> References: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <4ra7sa$ha1@usenet.rpi.edu> <4rbjud$keo@news3.digex.net> <4rc0bt$ctc@usenet.rpi.edu> Hi Garance :) Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > I think that's been true of other major-version switches, such as NS-2.x to NS-3.x. There's a more significant amount of work for NS-3.x to NS-4.x, but the expectation is that the work will be worth it (at least for those apps which would make sense in an OpenStep/WinNT or OpenStep/Solaris environment). Maybe my memory is off...But I remember being able to open old 1/2 source under 3.x and just have ProjectBuilder convert things properly...and a few times I had to change a very few lines for headers... That is it... I think the case from 3->4 is SIGNIFICANTLY more involved... > I must admit that when I think of NS-4.0, I keep thinking I should buy yet another machine to run it on... :-) Yes, I remember promises of _just_ one machine per desk :) I still am fond of that notion...I don't want to have to get another old color station just for compiling over the net...I mean these 'peripherals' have to get a bit smaller :) > I imagine this is more work than it's worth (even though I agree it'd be nice). On NeXT hardware it isn't all that hard to have a dual-boot arrangement for those apps you need to recompile and you don't want to convert to NS-4.0. Presumably you don't need to recompile such things very often. > (although your example of Alexandra is something that one might still be making changes to on a regular basis) I'm afraid you a right on both the above counts... I know of at least one project very useful to the NeXT community, given away for free, that will be stopped just for this reason... That the individual upgraded to 4.0 and just won't bother upgrading the sources, so development has stopped. Sometimes it's easy to forget the MAMOTH contributions that individuals, rather than corporations, have made to our community. A great deal of the share/free wares are by individuals that dont have the money, wherewithall, and/or space for having both 3.3 and 4.0... I wonder how much more difficult it would have been to include the ability to compile both... Oh well, I'm sure it wasn't trivial (John flashing back :) otherwise NeXT would have put it in... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disharmony between NS3.3 & OPNS/Mach development (was Re: OpenStep is finally here) Date: 3 Jul 1996 18:57:20 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <4refqg$7gj@news4.digex.net> References: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <4ra7sa$ha1@usenet.rpi.edu> <4rbjud$keo@news3.digex.net> <4rc0bt$ctc@usenet.rpi.edu> <4ref37$7gj@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > stopped. Sometimes it's easy to forget the MAMOTH contributions that And sometimes it's easy to make a typo...sheesh...mammoth... I really should be less itchy with that post button :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net | Telepathy...It's coming...
From: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: 2xQ: 4.GB for NS/I 3.3/4.0 ? Monitor ? Date: 02 Jul 1996 19:48:31 -0600 Organization: Computing Research Lab/New Mexico State University Sender: zhao@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu Message-ID: <yeg3f3at8cw.fsf@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> I have bought a pentium 200 pro system w/ 4.0GB HD, w/o monitor. Q1. Do I need to partition the 4GB scsi HD into 2x2GB, since I was told that NS/I 3.3 couldn't handle > 2GB HD. Can 4.0? Q2. I am in search of a top-line 20"/21" monitor. I surfed homepage of Nokia and Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi 20H seems to be very good, but not in market. Is Nokia 445x(TCO) the best choice? BTW, I don;t really trust Viewsonic. ;/ I have two Sony 17se's, they are very good, but not in 20". Thanks in advance, zhao
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: [Q] Why should I buy 4.0? Message-ID: <DtzI8w.5KD@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <4ra2tf$ha1@usenet.rpi.edu> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:29:20 GMT In article <4ra2tf$ha1@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> writes: > haasd@ubaclu.unibas.ch (Daniel Haas) wrote: > > I just got an offer in Germany that the NS 4.0 Acadamic will cost > > me about 300 US$. At the moment I'm still running 3.3 at home on > > my black slab and I'm thinking of upgrading. > > > > But - I have no idea what I get for the money!!! > > This is the big problem right now. NeXT seems to have nothing > much to say on the new product. > > I have some idea of some things that are in NeXTSTEP 4.0, and > it's possible that those will be well worth $300 to NeXTSTEP > users. It'll probably be worth it to me. But until NeXT > wants to give us some idea of what's in the new release, it'd > probably be best to delay making any orders. > It is just that my NEXTSTEP distributor informed me that any special upgrade offer (like bundling User, Dev, and EOF at a dicount) will expire July 15! "Very nice, Henry!" -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: Pentium 166MHz vs. Sun SparcStation 5 Date: 3 Jul 1996 20:40:16 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4relrg$ntm@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4r9np5$7r5@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) wrote: > Hello: > > Could you please comment on the advantages disadvantages of > getting a Pentium 166MHz vs. a Sun SparcStation 5? > > The machine will be used for research in Computer-Aided Design, > Graphics (solidThinking/Renderman, AutoCAD, Microstation) as well > as a web server (with WebObjects). I would like to start exploring > VRML, Java, and video conferencing. > > Both will be configured to be compatible with NS/OpenStep: > Dual Boot partitions. > 20" Monitor > 64MB RAM > 2 Gig HD + another external (for second OS) > SCSI Controller > Ethernet Card > Decent Video Graphics Card I'd go with the Pentium box. Last I checked, a decent video card for a SPARC was much more expensive that the hottest video card you can get for Intel-based hardware. SS-5's are "old technology" (for Sun), nearly at the bottom of their product line. I'd rather buy a pretty-much "current technology" Pentium box. I'd also say that pentiums would give you more flexiblity should you want to try other operating systems. With the SPARC you only have NeXTSTEP and Solaris, with Intel you still have both of those as well as many others. (admittedly Solaris for Intel isn't as widely supported as Solaris for Sparc, but I don't know how much that would effect you). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTstep 4.0 Date: 4 Jul 1996 03:42:07 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <4rfeif$sk7@cocoa.brown.edu> Will all of my Apps that run under 3.2 run under 4.0 on my NeXTstation Turbo? Please respond in simple terms. Thanks, Andrew
From: lbarry@nas.com (Lisa A. Barry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP! Date: Thu, 04 Jul 96 02:44:51 GMT Organization: Network Access Services, Inc. Message-ID: <4rfb0i$4rh@barad-dur.nas.com> I need HELP!!!! I have a lot of questions and any help would be greatly appreciated. My machine came with a nice manual that said how to put the pieces together and turn it on, and a "User's Guide" that tells a little about the file system, the text editor, how to set the clock, and similar odds & ends, but that's all there is. Nothing like a "system overview for the programmer," or even a list of what software comes with the system (there is some) or what it's supposed to do. Nevertheless, I managed to find a C compiler, an assembler, and what passes for online documentation. The documentation is incomplete, like an appendix, the stuff you read after you've read the real manual. Are there more complete manuals? Where do I find out exactly what language the compiler expects? (Other systems usually provide a "Language Reference Manual" or some such.) What are the assembler linkage conventions? How do I change the amount of memory a program gets at load time? For that matter, what is the default memory size, where is it specified, and how do I change it? How do I communicate with (set a flag for, or suspend, or maybe kill) a running program? How do I run more than one program at a time? (Open several Terminal windows? How?) How do I switch running programs between foreground & background? How do I set up a subroutine library? How do I get a library (or collection of libraries) to be automatically searched at load time? Somehow, I escaped getting on any mailing lists when I sent in the warranty card, so I never get any advertising, not even from Next, and I have no idea what kind of software is available. I don't mean "applications", I want to write "programs", for my own use, without buttons, sliders, etc. What compilers are available, in what languages (C, fortran, basic, whatever)? Is the compiler itself user-friendly (Next's is definitely user-hostile.) Does it provide a user-friendly operating environment for its programs, or are they meant to run naked under unix? What library functions does it have? Must I go to IMSL or NAG? Since the bit-string manipulations I want to do are practical only at the assembler level, what are the linkage conventions for assembler subroutines? A more specific question: how do I set up the Mail program so that my From address will also work as a To address. Right now it won't; you have to use the Reply-To address. The problem is related to the fact that all my mail goes through a university computer system, and the university system requires that I use the particular From address that I do. Sending mail out is no problem. To get mail in, my system runs a program called PopOver, that fetches mail from my mailbox on the university system. Mail sent to my mailbox bounces back and forth between my system and the university system until it generates a "too many bounces" error message. I used to get those messages when I was running NextStep release 3.0 (that's the operating system), but when I upgraded to release 3.3 the error messages, too, started to bounce back and forth, and there is no limit to the number of bounces an error message can make, so we changed my system so that it simply refuses to recognize error messages from the university system. (I forget how we changed it; I think we commented out a line or two in some command file.) Final question, for now. This is about the typesetting program TeX, a version of which comes with the system. Its input is marked-up ascii, and must have a .tex suffix; its output is device-independent printer code, with a .dvi suffix. Now, TeX is the antithesis of WYSIWYG: the markup language is so messy that you need another program -- in this case, TeXview, which also comes with the system -- to let you preview on the screen what the printed output will look like. The problem is that the system is set up so that all .tex files open in TeXview, which is fine for previewing but makes it impossible to edit a .tex file! So how do I change the TeXview setup so that it will let me edit a .tex file? Thanks for any and all help!! Ray
From: Salvo@AccessOne.com(Marc Salvatori) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: 2xQ: 4.GB for NS/I 3.3/4.0 ? Monitor ? Date: 4 Jul 1996 05:23:39 GMT Organization: AccessOne Message-ID: <4rfkgr$ed2@news.accessone.com> References: <yeg3f3at8cw.fsf@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> Cc: zhao@crl.nmsu.edu In <yeg3f3at8cw.fsf@sparta.crl.nmsu.edu> Z. Zhao wrote: > Q1. Do I need to partition the 4GB scsi HD into 2x2GB, since I was > told that NS/I 3.3 couldn't handle > 2GB HD. Can 4.0? I believe the 2G partition limit remains the same for 4.0. > Q2. I am in search of a top-line 20"/21" monitor. I surfed homepage > of Nokia and Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi 20H seems to be very good, > but not in market. Is Nokia 445x(TCO) the best choice? I am very satisfied with my 445X; I have used it for almost two years. The 21-inch Nanao is worth a look as well. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | >< >< mailto:salvo@accessone.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted ><
From: "Andrew M. Priasmoro" <ampriasm@students.wisc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WTB: NeXT Color Station Turbo. Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 05:45:28 -0500 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Message-ID: <31DBA0C8.1B5C@students.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear NeXT Sellers, I would like to buy a NeXT Color Station Turbo with the following configurations: - 33MHz NeXT Color Station. - 16 to 32 MHz RAM. - 400 and above NeXT Hard Drive. - 17" to 21" NeXT black Color Monitor. - NeXT Black ADB Keyboard (non-ADB is acceptable). - NeXT Black ADB Mouse (non-ADB is acceptable). - NeXT Black Sound Box. - NeXT Black Monitor Cable. - NeXT Black Power Cords. - NeXT Black CD-ROM 2X to 4X (if available). - NeXT Black 2.88MB Floppy Drive with capability to write and read 1.44MB and below. - NeXT Black 14.4Kbp and up Modem (below 14.4Kbp is acceptable as long as it's black NeXT). - NeXT 400Dpi Laser Printer. - Running NeXTStep 3.3 operating system. - TCP/IP Dial-up Programs included to hook up the system to the internet over the phone line. - Inclusion of some softwares is acceptable. I would be happy to hear the offer as soon as possible. Thank you in advance. Sincerely, Andrew Priasmoro.
From: Paul WINDEY <windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: which 2GB hard drive to use? Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 13:16:40 +0200 Organization: Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (PARIS VI) Message-ID: <31DBA818.6714@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I would like to replace an old 400 MB internal disk on a NextStation Color and NeXTStation Turbo Color, both running NS 3.3 with new internal disks of 2 GB. I have seen that some are known not to work. Could somebody supply a list (partial or not) of the disks with their model numbers which are known to work with this configuration or a URL where one can find this info. At least does anyone knows the difference between SCSI 2 and 3 and fast and ultra Thanks very much for your time -- Paul Windey, LPTHE Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI) Bte 126 4pl Jussieu F-75252 Paris CEDEX 05, FRANCE e-mail: windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr tel: 33-1-4427 7456 (Secretariat: 4427 4121) FAX: 33-1-4427 73 93 ou 7088 -- Paul Windey, LPTHE Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI) Bte 126 4pl Jussieu F-75252 Paris CEDEX 05, FRANCE e-mail: windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr tel: 33-1-4427 7456 (Secretariat: 4427 4121) FAX: 33-1-4427 73 93 ou 7088
From: vhs@nextone.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a "dumb" ping for NeXT? Date: 4 Jul 1996 12:40:39 GMT Organization: Bull AG, Langen Message-ID: <4rge47$t0j@www.langen.bull.de> References: <199607032019.QAA09949@nerc.com> Cc: luomat@nerc.com In <199607032019.QAA09949@nerc.com> "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > > By "dumb" I mean a 'ping' which will respond either "is alive" or > "is dead" or "no such host" VS the ping which continually bombards > the stated host. /usr/etc/ping <hostname> <packetsize> <count> ping myhost 56 1 pings exactly one 56-byte packet. Volker
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a "dumb" ping for NeXT? Date: 4 Jul 1996 13:10:15 GMT Organization: frazer.com Message-ID: <jbf-0407960910260001@news.tiac.net> References: <199607032019.QAA09949@nerc.com> In article <199607032019.QAA09949@nerc.com>, luomat@nerc.com wrote: > By "dumb" I mean a 'ping' which will respond either "is alive" or > "is dead" or "no such host" VS the ping which continually bombards > the stated host. I haven't found one. Guess I'll have to find a non-next source and modify it. Something like this looks like the only way I'll get a reliable ppp. GateKeeper and PopOver miss too many failure modes. Barney
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP! Date: 4 Jul 1996 16:30:05 GMT Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland Message-ID: <4rgrid$1i11@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <4rfb0i$4rh@barad-dur.nas.com> Lisa A. Barry (lbarry@nas.com) wrote: > I need HELP!!!! I have a lot of questions and any help would be greatly > appreciated. In general, it would be good if you could find an experienced NeXT user to show you a few tricks. Since NEXTSTEP is a very visual environment, it helps a lot to just watch other people work. Some of the things you can do are absolutely amazing (like dragging folders and files into a terminal window), and you really must see them in use. In any case, I'll try to give a quick answer to your questions. Here's a general pointer: http://peanuts.leo.org is probably the best NEXTSTEP ftp site. Make sure to stop by and retrieve the NEXTSTEP FAQ. Also obtain a copy of the OmniWeb Web browser. > Nevertheless, I managed to find a C compiler, an assembler, and what > passes for online documentation. The documentation is incomplete, > like an appendix, the stuff you read after you've read the real > manual. Are there more complete manuals? The online manuals are complete, you just need to get a bit more acquainted with Digital Librarian. For those that prefer non-digital books (like me :-), the can also be bought on paper. Decide which ones you want first, you won't read all of them. > A more specific question: how do I set up the Mail program so that my From > address will also work as a To address. Right now > it won't; you have to use the Reply-To address. The problem > is related to the fact that all my mail goes through a university computer > system, and the university system This is not for the faint at heart. It can be done by massaging the sendmail configuration, but you have to know what you're doing. I found it more convenient to keep using my "old" address from university, and retrieve mail locally to my NeXT. If you want the From field to contain the outside mail adress, you'll have to edit sendmail.cf. Otherwise, just set the Reply-To field. > Final question, for now. This is about the typesetting program TeX, a > version of which comes with the system. Its input is marked-up ascii, and > must have a .tex suffix; its output is device-independent printer code, with > a .dvi suffix. Now, TeX is the antithesis of WYSIWYG: the markup language > is so messy that you need another program -- in this case, TeXview, which > also comes with the system -- to let you preview on the screen what the > printed output will look like. The problem is that the system is set up so > that all .tex files open in TeXview, which is fine for previewing but makes > it impossible to edit a .tex file! So how do I change the TeXview setup so > that it will let me edit a .tex file? Single click on the file, and select from the menu Tools->Inspector, and there select "Tools" (or jusr hit Command-3). There you can set Edit as dfault app for TeX files. In the future, TeX files will open in Edit. If you take the time to get to know the potential of your new machine, you'll start to love it. It really is an empowering technology - once you get the hang of it all. Best wishes, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: "Dr. Alan Kelm" <akelm@cms.math.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mathematica still in NS Academic 3.x? 4.0? Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 14:34:38 -0400 Organization: University d'/of Ottawa Message-ID: <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone tell me whether the academic bundle of NextStep 3.3 still includes Mathematica? We have NS 2.1, and use Mathematica extensively. Does anyone know whether it will be in the academic bundle of NS 4.0? We'd like to upgrade, but not if we lose our most important piece of software. Thanks, -Alan -- : Alan W. Kelm akelm@cms.math.ca : : Canadian Mathematical Society - executive office Unix computer support :
From: armin.schmidt@mail.utexas.edu (Armin Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: [Q] information about NeXT computers Date: 4 Jul 1996 20:22:21 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin Distribution: inet Message-ID: <armin.schmidt-0407961536200001@slip-29-14.ots.utexas.edu> Hello world, I'm interested in NeXT computers, but apparently it is hard to get information about these computers, as they are obsolete (right?). Does anybody have some kind of table what NeXT computers and accesories are/were available, what their configuration was? Where do I get information about the 'inside life' of those machines (processor, bus system, etc.)? Where can I buy them? (I now from a company called DeepSpace, but that cannot be all ?!?) I would really appreciate it if anybody out there helps me! Thanks! Y'all have a nice day Armin mail: armin.schmidt@mail.utexas.edu fax: 512-452-3864
From: scratch@sunset.sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Looking for "voice mail"/"answering machine" software Date: 4 Jul 96 20:15:27 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <scratch.836511327@sunset.sce.carleton.ca> References: <DtF6G8.51w@nvc.cc.ca.us> fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) writes: >I'd like to find some software that I can run under eithe Linux or >NeXTSTEP to answer the phone and take messages for me. Pretty much >just some kind of "answering machine" software. A company called ilink in Germany makes a product called mix. This software comes with a box that attaches either to the DSP on Black hardware, or ilink's i56 DSP board for intel systems. Here's their quick description mix for NEXTSTEP combines all telephone based communication forms (voice, fax, data) in a flexible way, e.g. as an advanced digital answering machine, fax system, or extensible computer telephone integration (CTI) system that forms the basis for many CTI applications. With its scalable hardware and software architecture, mix can be extended from a simple system for small offices all the way up to complex information retrieval systems. >At the moment it doesn't need to be any more complex than to answer, >play a message, record a message, and email the recorded message to >me. Don't need any voice mail menu system or anything. Currently, mix seems to include more software than you or I need. Perhaps a different bundling of software would be warranted. Also, mix seems to have a maximum modem speed of 2400 bps. I'm pretty sure that at least the i56 DSP board has enough processing power to give a faster modem speed. I believe that there is some market for giving the i56 board capabilities similar to a ZyXel modem, in addition to the MusicKit stuff it already supports. I've encouraged ilink to consider making the modem speed faster. My e-mail contact is Carolin_Woltermann@ilink.de Perhaps others would also like to encourage ilink to make the modem speed faster. Craig -- W. Craig Scratchley | internet: scratch@sce.carleton.ca Dept. of Systems and Computer Engineering | phone: (613) 520-5740 (Dept.) Carleton University | (613) 241-6952 (Home) Ottawa, ON, CANADA K1S 5B6 | fax: (613) 520-5727 (Dept.)
From: scratch@sunset.sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: gcc-2.7.2 on NS3.3-Sparcstation 5? Date: 4 Jul 96 20:41:26 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <scratch.836512886@sunset.sce.carleton.ca> References: <4r78o4$h63@news.mty.itesm.mx> diego@conga.super.unam.mx (Diego Zamboni) writes: >Hi: >I wanted to compile gcc-2.7.2 on my Sparcstation 5 running NS3.3, both to >have a recent version of gcc and to be able to compile g77, the GNU FORTRAN >compiler. However, apparently gcc doesn't yet support NEXTSTEP running on >sparc processors. >Does anybody have any ideas of getting around this problem? Perhaps Openstep/Mach 4.0 provides a recent-enough version of gcc. Does anybody know? Craig -- W. Craig Scratchley | internet: scratch@sce.carleton.ca Dept. of Systems and Computer Engineering | phone: (613) 520-5740 (Dept.) Carleton University | (613) 241-6952 (Home) Ottawa, ON, CANADA K1S 5B6 | fax: (613) 520-5727 (Dept.)
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep is finally here Date: 4 Jul 1996 23:05:21 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Message-ID: <4rhinh$2ip@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> References: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <fbuhyxcgm.fsf@elastica.com> In-Reply-To: <fbuhyxcgm.fsf@elastica.com> URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/ On a related note, how does OpenStep 4.0 perform? Is it out of the question for 040 black hardware? -- Wassim M. Jabi Doctoral Program in Architecture University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Blvd Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069 wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail) http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTstep 4.0 Date: 4 Jul 1996 22:23:25 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4rhg8t$605@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4rfeif$sk7@cocoa.brown.edu> andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) wrote: > Will all of my Apps that run under 3.2 run under 4.0 > on my NeXTstation Turbo? Maybe not "all", but if it isn't "all" then it should be mighty close to all. > Please respond in simple terms. You might find that they run a bit slower. You might want to buy more RAM (if that's an option) on your machine. If you have source code for some applications, and you want to recompile those applications, then you'll need to do some conversion before you'll get them to compile. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mathematica still in NS Academic 3.x? 4.0? Date: 4 Jul 1996 22:26:17 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4rhge9$605@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca> "Dr. Alan Kelm" <akelm@cms.math.ca> wrote: > Can anyone tell me whether the academic bundle of NextStep 3.3 > still includes Mathematica? We have NS 2.1, and use Mathematica > extensively. Does anyone know whether it will be in the academic > bundle of NS 4.0? We'd like to upgrade, but not if we lose our > most important piece of software. The bundle does not include Mathematica. My guess is that the version of Mathematica that you have would continue to work, but that you'd be better off to check with Wolfram for the newest version. There have been a lot of changes to Mathematica since the last version that was bundled for free with NeXTSTEP. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mathematica still in NS Academic 3.x? 4.0? Date: 5 Jul 1996 02:07:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <slrn4totp5.7bt.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> References: <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca> <4rhge9$605@usenet.rpi.edu> In article <4rhge9$605@usenet.rpi.edu>, Garance A Drosehn wrote: >"Dr. Alan Kelm" <akelm@cms.math.ca> wrote: >> Can anyone tell me whether the academic bundle of NextStep 3.3 >> still includes Mathematica? We have NS 2.1, and use Mathematica >> extensively. Does anyone know whether it will be in the academic >> bundle of NS 4.0? We'd like to upgrade, but not if we lose our >> most important piece of software. >The bundle does not include Mathematica. 3.x doesn't include mathematica, but it does definitely work. I have several copies of it... The mathematica that comes on most NeXTs is 2.0 (it's only the front-end that is version 2.1...), and the most recent NeXT version is 2.2. I'm not feeling so impressed with mathematica these days... You might take a look around at comparable software or other methods of solving the problems you need to solve. Paul
From: marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Marcel Weiher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: which 2GB hard drive to use? Date: 5 Jul 1996 06:05:22 GMT Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <4ribb2$5aa@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <31DBA818.6714@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Paul WINDEY <windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr> writes: [2 GB disks for station?] After my Fujitsu 1 gig (less than 5 years old, where's that #$%!@ invoice?!) started flaking on me, I got a Seagate Hawk 2XL, (simply because it was available quickly. I am very pleased. There were no problems installing, and the drive is certainly fast, fast enough to saturate the cube's SCSI implementation. Then again, most modern drives probably are... There is no point in getting a FAST or WIDE model, as the cube will support neither (will it even work with the WIDE?). One thing I did to make it scream is get BuildDisk to initialize the disk with optimal parameters, the default being way to slow. To do this I renamed the 'disk' command in '/usr/etc/', which BuildDisk uses to initialize new disks, to 'disk1', and install the following script as 'disk'. ---------------------- optimizied disk-script ------------------ #!/bin/sh # call the old disk to format the driver /usr/etc/disk1 $@ # now tune the drive, assuming /dev/rsd1a is being built # (this could be parsed from the arg, but that's not n # necessarily reliable and simply not worth it for a # one-off) /usr/etc/tunefs -a 16 -d 0 -e 512 /dev/rsd1a # I partitioned my disk, so second partition gets optimized, too. # Remove this if you haven't partitioned your disk. /usr/etc/tunefs -a 16 -d 0 -e 512 /dev/rsd1b -------------------------- end ---------------------------------- After running BuildDisk, I restored the old 'disk' command and now have a really snappy sysyem. Measured performance for large files is up to about 1.5 - 2.5 MB/s, up from 700K/s for my old disk with the default parameters (which cause a 2:1 interleaved block layout strategy). The write-cache on the drive was already enabled, but I was not able to reformat to 1024 byte sectors using formatter 1.2. Marcel
From: vladk@escape.com (Vladimir Knajtner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Japanese text editor Date: 5 Jul 1996 06:40:37 GMT Organization: Cloud 9 Internet, White Plains, NY, USA Distribution: usa, japan Message-ID: <4ridd5$1oq@news.cloud9.net> Keywords: kanji, hiragana, katakana, word processing I'm looking for a Japanese text editor to run under NS 3.0 or 3.1. Should not be too complex (something like WriteNow), but should support kanji, hiragana, and katakana and have the ability to print on NeXT printer. A decent public domain program would do as well. Vlad
From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a "dumb" ping for NeXT? Date: 5 Jul 1996 05:18:01 -0500 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <4riq4p$k48@Venus.mcs.com> References: <199607032019.QAA09949@nerc.com> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> writes: >By "dumb" I mean a 'ping' which will respond either "is alive" or >"is dead" or "no such host" VS the ping which continually bombards >the stated host. You could always roll your own script around the existing ping. Something like res=`/usr/etc/ping Some.IP.Addr.Here 56 1 | tail -2 | head -1 | \ awk '{ print $4 }' if test $res -eq 1 then echo "is alive" else echo "is dead" fi -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mathematica still in NS Academic 3.x? 4.0? Date: 5 Jul 1996 12:02:28 GMT Organization: frazer.com Message-ID: <jbf-0507960802400001@news.tiac.net> References: <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca> In article <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca>, "Dr. Alan Kelm" <akelm@cms.math.ca> wrote: > Can anyone tell me whether the academic bundle of NextStep 3.3 still > includes Mathematica? Unbundled as of 3.0. 2.0 bundled version runs under 3.3.
From: dekorte@colt.suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep is finally here Date: 5 Jul 1996 19:15:07 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <4rjpjr$8ar@news.onramp.net> References: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <fbuhyxcgm.fsf@elastica.com> <4rhinh$2ip@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Cc: wjabi@umich.edu In <4rhinh$2ip@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Wassim M. Jabi wrote: > On a related note, how does OpenStep 4.0 perform? Is it out of the > question for 040 black hardware? It's only a bit slower on NeXT than 3.3. And the dev apps actually run faster on my turbo color NeXT than on my P100 with NT. -- Steve Dekorte "C++/Java, the COBOL of the 90s" NeXTstep consultant - Anaheim, CA (NeXTmail,MIME) http://www.batech.com/~dekorte/dekorte/index.html
From: dekorte@colt.suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: [Q] information about NeXT computers Date: 5 Jul 1996 19:10:31 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4rjpb7$8ar@news.onramp.net> References: <armin.schmidt-0407961536200001@slip-29-14.ots.utexas.edu> Cc: armin.schmidt@mail.utexas.edu Armin Schmidt wrote: > Does anybody have some kind of table what NeXT computers and accesories > are/were available, what their configuration was? You might find something like that in NeXTanswers at http://www.next.com/. I'd like to put together some web pages on NeXT HW myself, when I have the time. -- Steve Dekorte "C++/Java, the COBOL of the 90s" NeXTstep consultant - Anaheim, CA (NeXTmail,MIME) http://www.batech.com/~dekorte/dekorte/index.html
From: "Jonathan W. Hendry" <steeldrv@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: Pentium 166MHz vs. Sun SparcStation 5 Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 19:17:01 -0400 Organization: Steel Driving Software, Inc. Message-ID: <31DDA26D.6C03@ix.netcom.com> References: <4r9np5$7r5@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <4relrg$ntm@usenet.rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Garance A Drosehn wrote: > > wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) wrote: > > Hello: > > > > Could you please comment on the advantages disadvantages of > > getting a Pentium 166MHz vs. a Sun SparcStation 5? > > > > The machine will be used for research in Computer-Aided Design, > > Graphics (solidThinking/Renderman, AutoCAD, Microstation) as well > > as a web server (with WebObjects). I would like to start exploring > > VRML, Java, and video conferencing. > > > > Both will be configured to be compatible with NS/OpenStep: > > Dual Boot partitions. > > 20" Monitor > > 64MB RAM > > 2 Gig HD + another external (for second OS) > > SCSI Controller > > Ethernet Card > > Decent Video Graphics Card > > I'd go with the Pentium box. Last I checked, a decent video card > for a SPARC was much more expensive that the hottest video card > you can get for Intel-based hardware. SS-5's are "old technology" > (for Sun), nearly at the bottom of their product line. I'd rather > buy a pretty-much "current technology" Pentium box. > > I'd also say that pentiums would give you more flexiblity should > you want to try other operating systems. With the SPARC you only > have NeXTSTEP and Solaris, with Intel you still have both of those > as well as many others. (admittedly Solaris for Intel isn't as > widely supported as Solaris for Sparc, but I don't know how much > that would effect you). It would also be much cheaper/easier to upgrade the PC's hardware later on, should it become desireable. I'd suspect an Intel motherboard swap would be much more affordable than a Sparc. (If it is even possible on the SS5).
From: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de (Ingo Feulner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disharmony between NS3.3 & OPNS/Mach development (was Re: OpenStep is finally here) Date: 5 Jul 1996 21:14:31 GMT Organization: Home, sweet home in Boeblingen, Germany Message-ID: <slrn4tr1dn.905.ifeulner@xenon.stgt.sub.org> References: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <4ra7sa$ha1@usenet.rpi.edu> <4rbjud$keo@news3.digex.net> <4rc0bt$ctc@usenet.rpi.edu> <4rdb9u$fs4@news.xmission.com> In article <4rdb9u$fs4@news.xmission.com>, don@misckit.com wrote: >I'll also be really interested to see how the final release pans >out from both a stability and performance point of view. Those >issues have slowed me down considerably to date...though I do >expect the final release will be a big improvement in that area. I've used the gamma release of OpenStep for Mach for several weeks now and some days ago I've got the final release. It's as slow as the gamma was and especially the debugging tools are as buggy as they were under the gamma. (Nobody at NeXT has found it worthy to check out the keyboard support in Projectbuilder with foreign keyboards. As a result, the square brackets (and all umlauts) cannot be typed with a german keyboard in the debugging panel.. ) ProjectBuilder crashes often, InterfaceBuilder is the same. And loading 4.0 built apps takes much longer than 3.3 apps. OpenStep for NT is even worse... but it's still in beta, so there is some hope (but really not much) left... -Ingo. -- Smail: Ingo Feulner, Wolfacher Weg 19, 71034 Boeblingen, Germany Email: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de
From: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de (Ingo Feulner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep is finally here Date: 5 Jul 1996 21:21:04 GMT Organization: Home, sweet home in Boeblingen, Germany Message-ID: <slrn4tr1q0.905.ifeulner@xenon.stgt.sub.org> References: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <fbuhyxcgm.fsf@elastica.com> <4rhinh$2ip@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> In article <4rhinh$2ip@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, Wassim M. Jabi wrote: >On a related note, how does OpenStep 4.0 perform? Is it out of the >question for 040 black hardware? One short answer: Yes. (with one exception: running 3.3 apps under 4.0) -- Smail: Ingo Feulner, Wolfacher Weg 19, 71034 Boeblingen, Germany Email: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de
From: aisbell@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep is finally here Date: 6 Jul 1996 03:12:11 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <4rklib$4eq@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> References: <4ra4lv$91t@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <fbuhyxcgm.fsf@elastica.com> <4rhinh$2ip@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <slrn4tr1q0.905.ifeulner@xenon.stgt.sub.org> ifeulner@xenon.cube.de (Ingo Feulner) wrote: > In article <4rhinh$2ip@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, Wassim M. Jabi wrote: > >On a related note, how does OpenStep 4.0 perform? Is it out of the > >question for 040 black hardware? > > One short answer: Yes. > (with one exception: running 3.3 apps under 4.0) One longer answer: NO. I've been using OPENSTEP/Mach 4.0 prereleases as my sole OS for over 2 months on an old 25 MHz. Cube and have been just as productive as under NS 3.3. Yes, 4.0 apps take a bit longer to launch, but I autolaunch most of the apps I use all day when I log in, so launch times are a minimal problem for me. Almost every new version of an OS runs slightly slower than the previous version due to the addition of more features, etc., so 4.0 continues that trend. No one should be surprised by this. I haven't noticed PB or IB crashing as reported and I am a developer by profession, but maybe the German version is buggier. But OPENSTEP/Mach doesn't offer many user-level enhancements, so upgrading the User version won't yield an exciting new experience :-) Most of the enhancements are in the Developer version. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Why should I buy 4.0? Date: 6 Jul 1996 05:05:48 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4rks7c$riq@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4ra2tf$ha1@usenet.rpi.edu> <DtzI8w.5KD@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote: > It is just that my NEXTSTEP distributor informed me that any > special upgrade offer (like bundling User, Dev, and EOF at a > dicount) will expire July 15! > > "Very nice, Henry!" Hmm. On the web pages at NeXT there is some mention of some special offers, and the date on those web pages is July 31st. (I don't know if that date is the right one for the offers showing up in Germany, though. It would certainly be worthwhile to ask!). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: foxsong@worldcity.nl (Grimbelbeer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: motorzeiler Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 09:57:13 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <4rldu9$nr9@news.xs4all.nl> Wegens overlijden schipper, Te Koop: Zeewaardige stalen motorzeiler _ZUIDERMAAT_. Lengte 11,70 m., met kimkielen, diepgang 1,10 m. waterverplaatsing 10 ton, met Mercedes 80 PK Diesel en Jurjens omkeerbare propeller. 7 Slaapplaatsen. Verder uitgerust met Furlex rolfok, Autohelm 2000M,Marifoon,Decca,Depthsounder,Webasto en nog heel veel meer accessoires. Te bezichtigen: Jachthaven IJmond, zijkanaal C van het Noordzeekanaal, dichtbij Spaarndam. Prijs: N.O.T.K. info: foxsong@worldcity.nl Whatever site you surf in, sign the visitors book and if it's worth it, bookmark it. But if they don't want you in their network, log off and shake the dust of your cursor.
From: jeremy@inetnebr.com (Jeremy Bettis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Puzzled about OpenStep Date: 6 Jul 1996 14:08:50 GMT Organization: Internet Nebraska Message-ID: <4rls1i$85j@duck.inetnebr.com> References: <4rb5g0$qc@netty.york.ac.uk> <4rbe9r$4h@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-User: jeremy To: aisbell@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) In article <4rbe9r$4h@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>, aisbell@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > NeXT's Web site is offering a sneak preview (beta version) of the > OPENSTEP/NT development tools which would be necessary to build an > OPENSTEP/NT app. I understand that Microsoft Visual C++ must be installed as > well because the NEXTSTEP linker (ld) hasn't been ported yet. That was true in Prerelease 2 but prerelease 3 comes with the linker, no Visual C++ necessary, as far as I can tell. ( Or course I still had VC++ installed from the prior testing.) -- Jeremy Bettis -*- PGP public key available,send mail with subj "Send pgp key" Home: jeremy@tddi.inetnebr.com Work: jeremy@hksys.com NeXTMAIL/MIME/PGP accepted
From: jeremy@inetnebr.com (Jeremy Bettis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: gcc-2.7.2 on NS3.3-Sparcstation 5? Date: 6 Jul 1996 14:11:27 GMT Organization: Internet Nebraska Message-ID: <4rls6f$85j@duck.inetnebr.com> References: <4r78o4$h63@news.mty.itesm.mx> <scratch.836512886@sunset.sce.carleton.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-User: jeremy To: scratch@sunset.sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley) In article <scratch.836512886@sunset.sce.carleton.ca>, scratch@sunset.sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley) writes: > diego@conga.super.unam.mx (Diego Zamboni) writes: > >>I wanted to compile gcc-2.7.2 on my Sparcstation 5 running NS3.3, both to >>have a recent version of gcc and to be able to compile g77, the GNU FORTRAN >>compiler. However, apparently gcc doesn't yet support NEXTSTEP running on >>sparc processors. > > Perhaps Openstep/Mach 4.0 provides a recent-enough version of > gcc. Does anybody know? > The prerelease does not. I suspect that the final release won't either. -- Jeremy Bettis -*- PGP public key available,send mail with subj "Send pgp key" Home: jeremy@tddi.inetnebr.com Work: jeremy@hksys.com NeXTMAIL/MIME/PGP accepted
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <4rldu9$nr9@news.xs4all.nl> Control: cancel <4rldu9$nr9@news.xs4all.nl> Date: 6 Jul 1996 18:11:13 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4rma81$u6@turbocat.snafu.de> cancel
From: american@internetMCI.COM (Charles C. Hocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Posting to USENET Question Date: 6 Jul 1996 21:12:42 GMT Organization: TDS Telecom - Madison, WI Message-ID: <4rmksa$4pb@news2.tds.net> Hello everyone, I know this is not the right place to ask this but, I am going to anyway. How do you post to multiple newsgroups from the command line? I would like to post an article to several newsgroups at once. The news reader I am using only allows you to post to one group at a time. Thanks Charles -- ‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘ Charles C. Hocker american@mail.TDS.net ASCII, MIME & NeXTmail american@aztec.asu.edu "Food is Power. We use it to change behavior. Some May Call that Bribery. We Do Not Apologize." Catherine Bertini, executive director, UN World Food Program, Beijing, China, UN 4th World Conference on Women, Sept. 1995. ‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘ For copy my PGP key, send a message with the subject: Request PGP Key ‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘
From: vladk@escape.com (Vladimir Knajtner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Alby-PPP front for NS3.0 Date: 7 Jul 1996 07:39:26 GMT Organization: Cloud 9 Internet, White Plains, NY, USA Distribution: USA Message-ID: <4rnpje$j9n@news.cloud9.net> Keywords: PPP Is there any nice front app for alby-ppp (or similar one) which runs under NS3.0 (or 3.1)?
From: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de (Ingo Feulner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: gcc-2.7.2 on NS3.3-Sparcstation 5? Date: 7 Jul 1996 10:11:37 GMT Organization: Home, sweet home in Boeblingen, Germany Message-ID: <slrn4tv3ap.k0f.ifeulner@xenon.stgt.sub.org> References: <4r78o4$h63@news.mty.itesm.mx> <4rls6f$85j@duck.inetnebr.com> On 6 Jul 1996 14:11:27 GMT, Jeremy Bettis <jeremy@inetnebr.com> wrote: >The prerelease does not. I suspect that the final release won't either. You're right. - Ingo. -- Smail: Ingo Feulner, Wolfacher Weg 19, 71034 Boeblingen, Germany Email: ifeulner@xenon.cube.de
From: M. WILKINS <mwilkins@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.s Subject: I'LL TELL YOUR FUTURE, NOW!!! Date: 7 Jul 1996 22:53:52 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <01bb6c56.57337d00$3f5bface@mwilkins> I'LL TELL YOUR FUTURE, NOW!!!!! JUST CALL 1-900-868-4100 EXT. 7607 $3.99per min. must be 18yrs Serv-U(619)645-8434
From: chadw <pry.8@osu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: next machine for sale Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 18:25:41 -0700 Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <31E06395.4A4F@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i have a next machine w/8 megs of memory for sale also includes a 100 meg HD, BW monitor, keyboard and mouse. if interested mail to: "pry.8@osu.edu"
From: "Patrick Ketelaar" <ketelaar@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc Subject: Re: I'LL TELL YOUR FUTURE, NOW!!! Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 22:36:14 -0400 Organization: Netcom Distribution: inet Message-ID: <01bb6c76.7bdde120$6589d3c6@#ketelaar> References: <01bb6c56.57337d00$3f5bface@mwilkins> Wait- I can tell my own future- I'm not gonna call, not gonna spend 3.99 a minute, gonna save for the win version of the pilot sdk. pat -- Patrick Ketelaar- Ketelaar@ix.netcom.com Disney Maps for Newton http://www.netcom.com/~ketelaar/orion.html The above is my opinion, I could be wrong, but who cares? > M. WILKINS <mwilkins@earthlink.net> wrote in article <01bb6c56.57337d00$3f5bface@mwilkins>... > I'LL TELL YOUR FUTURE, NOW!!!!! > > JUST CALL 1-900-868-4100 EXT. 7607 > > $3.99per min. > must be 18yrs > Serv-U(619)645-8434 > > >
From: "Lullaby" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 4.0 Screenshot anyone? Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:38:59 -0700 Organization: Unknown Organization Message-ID: <01bb6cb1.4a0d08c0$461543a4@everblue> Not the one from Peanuts archive--no artist's renditions, please. If anyone has the ACTUAL screenshots of NS 4.0 for Mach, please post it or mail it to me!
From: "Lullaby" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Why shoud I buy 4.0? Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 02:54:59 -0700 Organization: Unknown Organization Message-ID: <01bb6cb3.8906f160$591643a4@everblue> References: <1996Jul1.171133.46687@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> > But - I have no idea what I get for the money!!! This from a newsletter may help: "JUST RELEASED: NeXTSTEP 4.0 AND WEBOBJECTS 2.0 NeXT released NeXTSTEP 4.0 last week and is calling the old operating system: OPENSTEP 4.0 For Mach. This new version is basically NeXTSTEP 3.3 with a new set of libraries, as required for compatibility with OPENSTEP for NT. New OPENSTEP 4.0 applications will be source code compatible between NT and NeXTSTEP (that is the promise), and will interoperate with existing 3.3 applications. The operating system product operates by loading both the 3.3 and 4.0 runtime libraries simultaneously. Old applications such as mail and workspace manager will use the 3.3 runtime libraries. Newer applications will use the 4.0 runtime libraries. Thus the mach-based product does consume more memory, and the NT compatible 4.0 libraries do run a little slower than the old NeXTSTEP 3.3 libraries. OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach includes a new PPP module but no other new operating system functionality. There is no new Berkeley Unix, no new patch and go linker, no new sendmail, and no new uucp. The product is tri-fat compatible. It runs on Black, White and Sparc hardware, but not on HP hardware, and not on Sparc Ultra hardware. Last night representatives from NeXT were scheduled to demo some new 4.0 applications at the Bay Area NeXT Users Group meeting <www.bang.org>, but failed to complete the demos on time. Rather than show up and answer questions, they cancelled an hour before show time, leaving a large audience of disappointed people to share rumours about what is (or is not) included in the 4.0 release, hence my apologies for any inaccuracies in this story." So there it is, It really sounds like no upgrade at all !!!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Japanese text editor Message-ID: <miked-0807961528310001@micmacmike.ittpub.nl> From: miked@ittpub.nl (Mike Davis) Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 15:28:31 +0200 References: <4ridd5$1oq@news.cloud9.net> Distribution: usa, japan Organization: ITT Publitec bv, Amsterdam, The Netherlands. In article <4ridd5$1oq@news.cloud9.net>, vladk@escape.com wrote: > I'm looking for a Japanese text editor to run under NS 3.0 or 3.1. Should > not be too complex (something like WriteNow), but should support kanji, > hiragana, and katakana and have the ability to print on NeXT printer. A > decent public domain program would do as well. > > Vlad What's wrong with the Japanese version of Edit.app?
From: aisbell@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Why shoud I buy 4.0? Date: 8 Jul 1996 16:34:12 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <4rrda4$jk3@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> References: <1996Jul1.171133.46687@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <01bb6cb3.8906f160$591643a4@everblue> "Lullaby" <everblue@ucla.edu> wrote: > OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach includes a new PPP module but no other new > operating system functionality. I don't know the details of new 4.0 features, but this sounds a bit too sweeping a statement. I know that a new multithreaded lookupd is included, for example. A recent posting has shown that 100 Mbps Ethernet performance under 4.0 has been improved considerably relative to 3.3 which might be due to kernel changes. There is no new Berkeley Unix, no > new patch and go linker, no new sendmail, and no new uucp. Taylor UUCP replaces the old UUCP, so this statement isn't accurate. > So there it is, It really sounds like no upgrade at all !!!!!! As I have said before, I think 4.0 should be viewed as a Developer rather than User upgrade because the development environment is where most of the enhancements were made. But 4.0 User will be needed to run 4.0 apps, so there are behind-the-scenes enhancements to User that support the new dynamic shared libraries used by all OpenStep environments. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: "Dr. Alan Kelm" <akelm@cms.math.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Upgrade NS 2.1 -> 3.3 in one step? Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 13:12:23 -0400 Organization: University d'/of Ottawa Message-ID: <31E14177.167E@cms.math.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know whether it is possible to upgrade from NeXTStep 2.1 to NeXTStep 3.3 directly, without buying the 3 and 3.2 upgrades? We currently have the 2.1 academic bundle and would like to move to 3.3 in order to take advantage of the large base of 3.3 software. Thanks, -Alan -- : Alan W. Kelm akelm@cms.math.ca : : Canadian Mathematical Society - executive office Unix computer support :
From: schildwa@informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Christian Schildwaechter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Why should I buy 4.0? Date: 8 Jul 1996 18:18:30 GMT Organization: RWTH -Aachen / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <4rrjdm$i1c@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <4ra2tf$ha1@usenet.rpi.edu> <DtzI8w.5KD@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: >It is just that my NEXTSTEP distributor informed me that any special >upgrade offer (like bundling User, Dev, and EOF at a dicount) will expire >July 15! Where did you get this info? I called DART (NeXT's distributor for Germany) this morning. They told me that only the price for the biggest upgrade (user + developer + eof commercial for MachOS and NT, I guess it's not the one you were looking for) was a limited offer, everything else should stay as it is right now. When I asked when this offer would expire they told me I had to ask NeXT for this one. So I called NeXT Germany, but they didn't know anything about any limited offer at all :-( At least they didn't tell me. > E-mail defunct, sorry I did not believe it, but it's true ;-) Christian --- Christian Schildwaechter http://greenHAUS.ros.AC-Net.de/ Rosstr. 38-40 schildw@infoac.rmi.de (NeXTMail/MIME fine) 52064 Aachen/Germany (+49)241-2800- 2(voice/am)/3(fax)
From: mckelvey@suite.com (James_W_McKelvey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Why shoud I buy 4.0? Date: 8 Jul 1996 20:49:25 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <4rrs8l$a5t@news.onramp.net> References: <1996Jul1.171133.46687@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <01bb6cb3.8906f160$591643a4@everblue> <4rrda4$jk3@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> Cc: aisbell@cubicsol.com In <4rrda4$jk3@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> Art Isbell wrote: > As I have said before, I think 4.0 should be viewed as a Developer rather > than User upgrade because the development environment is where most of the > enhancements were made. But 4.0 User will be needed to run 4.0 apps, so > there are behind-the-scenes enhancements to User that support the new dynamic > shared libraries used by all OpenStep environments. > Like, maybe, we can now create shared libraries? -- The only thing necessary for the triumph of good is for evil men to do nothing. mckelvey@suite.com
From: siren@pangea.ca (Betty Siren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP! Date: 8 Jul 1996 15:24:42 -0500 Organization: Pangea.CA, Inc. Message-ID: <4rrqqa$r51@surf.pangea.ca> References: <4rfb0i$4rh@barad-dur.nas.com> <4rgrid$1i11@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) writes: >Tools->Inspector, and there select "Tools" (or jusr hit Command-3). Interesting. I have been a NeXT user/sysadmin since release 0.8 and never noticed this keyboard equivalent. I even put "Inspector... i" in preferences, to make it like "Get Info" on a Mac. If "Inspector... produced a sub-menu instead of a new window, the keyboard equivalents would be more obvious. Are there other programs that put keyboard equivalents in strange places? ... Richard Tilley <siren@pangea.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Upgrade NS 2.1 -> 3.3 in one step? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960708194113.25759B-100000@charisma> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:43:44 -0400 References: <31E14177.167E@cms.math.ca> To: "Dr. Alan Kelm" <akelm@cms.math.ca> In-Reply-To: <31E14177.167E@cms.math.ca> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Dr. Alan Kelm wrote: > Does anyone know whether it is possible to upgrade from NeXTStep 2.1 to > NeXTStep 3.3 directly, without buying the 3 and 3.2 upgrades? We > currently have the 2.1 academic bundle and would like to move to 3.3 in > order to take advantage of the large base of 3.3 software. > : Alan W. Kelm akelm@cms.math.ca I was under the impression (which may not be correct) that the academic version was NOT upgradable. In any case, you can probably find 3.3 for sale on csn.marketplace for a reasonable amount of $ now that 4.0 is out. TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Now in infancy: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: HELP! Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960708194513.25759C-100000@charisma> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 19:48:42 -0400 References: <4rfb0i$4rh@barad-dur.nas.com> <4rgrid$1i11@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <4rrqqa$r51@surf.pangea.ca> To: Betty Siren <siren@pangea.ca> In-Reply-To: <4rrqqa$r51@surf.pangea.ca> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Jul 1996, Betty Siren wrote: > neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) writes: > > >Tools->Inspector, and there select "Tools" (or jusr hit Command-3). > > Interesting. > I have been a NeXT user/sysadmin since release 0.8 and never noticed > this keyboard equivalent. I even put "Inspector... i" in preferences, > to make it like "Get Info" on a Mac. > If "Inspector... produced a sub-menu instead of a new window, the > keyboard equivalents would be more obvious. Are there other programs > that put keyboard equivalents in strange places? > > ... Richard Tilley <siren@pangea.ca> Well, I think Mail.app also does this (command-7 and command-8 for some sending options) If you click and HOLD the menu item, you can clearly see the numbers there. Of course, if you are like me, things like that pass without notice...... TjL ps -- in case you're interested in some NeXTStep tricks I've compiled, send me an email with SUBJECT send-ascii tricks There you will find a bunch of tricks and shortcuts people have told me about over the last 5 years. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Now in infancy: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat
From: scratch@tiros.sce.carleton.ca (Craig Scratchley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: gcc-2.7.2 on NS3.3-Sparcstation 5? Date: 9 Jul 96 02:13:24 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <scratch.836878404@tiros.sce.carleton.ca> References: <4r78o4$h63@news.mty.itesm.mx> <4rls6f$85j@duck.inetnebr.com> <slrn4tv3ap.k0f.ifeulner@xenon.stgt.sub.org> ifeulner@xenon.cube.de (Ingo Feulner) writes: >On 6 Jul 1996 14:11:27 GMT, Jeremy Bettis <jeremy@inetnebr.com> wrote: >>The prerelease does not. I suspect that the final release won't either. >You're right. Strange, someone sent me an e-mail saying that OpenStep uses 2.7.2. Can anybody confirm this, or report which version exactly OpenStep uses. I think that at least OpenStep/NT uses a fairly recent version. Craig -- W. Craig Scratchley | internet: scratch@sce.carleton.ca Dept. of Systems and Computer Engineering | phone: (613) 520-5740 (Dept.) Carleton University | (613) 241-6952 (Home) Ottawa, ON, CANADA K1S 5B6 | fax: (613) 520-5727 (Dept.)
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Why shoud I buy 4.0? Date: 9 Jul 1996 04:20:23 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <4rsmm7$50c@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> References: <1996Jul1.171133.46687@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <01bb6cb3.8906f160$591643a4@everblue> <4rrda4$jk3@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <4rrs8l$a5t@news.onramp.net> mckelvey@suite.com (James_W_McKelvey) wrote: > In <4rrda4$jk3@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> Art Isbell wrote: > > But 4.0 User will be needed to run 4.0 apps, so > > there are behind-the-scenes enhancements to User that support the new > dynamic > > shared libraries used by all OpenStep environments. > Like, maybe, we can now create shared libraries? Yep. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP! Date: 9 Jul 1996 04:27:45 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <4rsn41$50c@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> References: <4rfb0i$4rh@barad-dur.nas.com> <4rgrid$1i11@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <4rrqqa$r51@surf.pangea.ca> siren@pangea.ca (Betty Siren) wrote: > neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) writes: > > >Tools->Inspector, and there select "Tools" (or jusr hit Command-3). > > Interesting. > I have been a NeXT user/sysadmin since release 0.8 and never noticed > this keyboard equivalent. I even put "Inspector... i" in preferences, > to make it like "Get Info" on a Mac. > If "Inspector... produced a sub-menu instead of a new window, the > keyboard equivalents would be more obvious. Are there other programs > that put keyboard equivalents in strange places? Key equivalents can be on any menuCell including those in popUpLists, but a popUpList needs to be in a panel for a key equivalent to work. This is the case with Workspace's Inspector panel as it is with IB's Inspector panel and Mail's Send Options panel, all of which have popUpList items with key equivalents. More examples undoubtedly exist. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: lupescu@pa.msu.edu (Ody) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is it possible to use 3.3 drivers (binaries) with 3.2 ???? (Intel) Date: 9 Jul 1996 05:43:25 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <4rsrht$12k1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi everyone, I just got a copy of NS3.2 (Intel) and I've spend the last 8 hours trying to install it... :( Here is my problem: I have a VLB/PCI system with a Adaptec VLB controller (and a SCSI HDD partitioned in two - one partition is Linux, the other I planned to use with NeXTOS); also have a PCI EIDE controller (two HDD and an EIDE CD-ROM attached to it, running Win95 and WinNT on the HDD). I found on the NeXT WWW site drivers for my SCSI card, PCI bus, and EIDE CD-ROM ...the problem is that they are for 3.3... I tried to boot/install using the 3.3 floppy image (got it also from the WWW site) and then install the drivers that I need... It worked great untill it started to install files from the CDROM (which as I mentioned has NeXT 3.2 OS) ... at that point I got several ERROR messages (it did manage to create the NeXT partition, and install the following files /usr/standalone/i386/boot/boot(0,1,2) ): "/bin/mkdirs : mkdir "private" failed status 0x100 " - this is one of them... Then I got a message telling me that is safe to reboot. When I rebooted ( I use Lilo to boot into different partitions ), I got the command prompt : BOOT: I tried to boot off the SCSI NeXT partition w/out luck... it told me it couldn't find the system files... also tried everything else that came to my mind (spend 3 HOURS DOING THIS ...:-() ) NeXT tech. support "specialists" were of GREAT HELP... one told me to take out my EIDE HDD!!!, another told me that the order in which the drivers were loaded (SCSI card first and then EIDE) makes a difference (WICH WAS NOT THE CASE - I TRIED BOTH WAYS and there was NO DIFFRERENCE), and finnaly the best answer was that they had no clue whether my method of installing can work or not... So, if anyone out there really knows what is going on, PLEASE HELP me... I want to run NeXTSTEP OS, I've just bought the CD for $100, but I can't afford to upgrade now to 3.3... (besides, I think you must have 3.2 installed to upgrade to 3.3) Thanks for you time (and maybe help), Ody
From: vladk@escape.com (Vladimir Knajtner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: alby-ppp permissions/ownership problem Date: 9 Jul 1996 06:04:20 GMT Organization: Cloud 9 Internet, White Plains, NY, USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <4rssp4$78t@news.cloud9.net> Keywords: ppp, next I compiled and installed alby-ppp long time ago and it has been working fine with some minor modification of the launching scripts. The only problem I've been having is that alby-ppp runs only if I kick it off as root, otherwise I get message: ppp: ioctl(SIOCSIFFLAGS): Not owner which indicates that there is an ownership/permission problem. Changing the ownership of ppp* to uucp.daemon didn't help. I've got PPPMeter source the other day and compiled it so it works under NS3.0 on my machine, but now I wanna run the front end as myself ( != root ). I still have alby-ppp sources, but i'll dive into it only if I have to. So, please help. Vlad %]
From: Jean-Philippe Viegas <viegas@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OmniWeb ? Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 10:50:17 +0200 Organization: Alcatel Alsthom Recherche, Marcoussis, France Message-ID: <31E21D49.41C67EA6@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I downloaded OmniWeb, the web browser for NextStep, but I don't know how to make it work. My Nextstep works on a pentium machine and there are the main caracteristics of the network : It's an Unix network and the access to outside is provided by a proxyhost installed on a firewall machine named...proxyhost. The communications happen through the port number XXXX. I tried to put all those informations on the proxy preferences but the answer of the browser is : temporarily unable to connect : network is unreachable. In the preferences there are the cookies preferences, what is that? I can't enter a server name... Help would be greatly appreciated THANKS -- ------------------------------------------------------ Jean Philippe VIEGAS alcatel alsthom recherche viegas@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr ------------------------------------------------------
From: Augusto Rodrigues <asrodrig@fis1.fc.up.pt> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Next memory upgrade Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 11:05:21 +0100 Organization: Universidade do Porto Message-ID: <31E22EE1.3714@fis1.fc.up.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I'm considering increasing the memory of my black Next. I have a mono turbo slab (Motorola '040, 33 MHz), with 16Mb. I'd like to add another 16Mb. I know the appropriate simms are 72-pin, 70 ns. But not all simms are equal, and most/all memory places don't know what a black Next is. I've seen other posts refering what other, more common, hardware should people refer to when ordering memory (e.g., Macs) but only for other, older Nexts (e.g.,a Mac IIci for 25MHz slabs). What would be an equivalent machine I could reference to ask the sales people memory for? Did anyone had this problem before that could post/mail me the answer? Thanks to all. A. Rodrigues
From: scholzb@pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.answers,news.answers Subject: The NeXT-FAQ (Frequently asked questions) Followup-To: de.comp.sys.next Date: 9 Jul 1996 12:54:39 GMT Organization: InternetNews at LMU, University of Munich, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <4rtkqf$gdd@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Summary: Frequently asked questions concerning NeXT related topics. Posted-By: auto-faq 2.4 Archive-name: NeXT-FAQ Last-modified: Tuesday, 9. June 1996 Posting-Frequency: monthly The NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FAQ _________________________________________________________________ THE NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP FAQ OVERVIEW * 1 Introduction * 2 General information * 3 What is ... * 4 Miscellaneous information * 5 Black (NeXT) hardware * 6 White (Intel) hardware * 7 Storage * 8 Printing * 9 Obsolete but still interesting? CONTENTS 1 Introduction 1.1 About this FAQ 1.2 Submissions 1.3 Availability 1.4 Copyright 1.5 Disclaimer 1.6 Thanks 2 General information 2.1 Where to get answers? 2.2 How may I contact NeXT, Inc.? 2.3 FTP servers 2.4 Software on CD 2.5 What is the current status of NEXTSTEP/OpenStep? 2.6 Will there be a public implementation of OpenStep? 2.7 Are there differences between Openstep for Mach and other implementations? 2.8 What information is available by NeXT 2.9 What is the correct spelling? 2.10 How do I start an official NeXT User Group? 2.11 Are there differences in the NEXTSTEP implementations? 2.12 What are the names of the ftp sites that have NeXT-related files? 2.13 Additional information sources 2.14 How to get FTP files via e-mail. 2.15 References on Objective C 2.16 How to contact music interested people. 2.17 How to announce upcoming events 2.18 Can I mix different hardware running NEXTSTEP? 2.19 Can I exchange software running on different hardware? 3 What is ... 3.1 NEXTSTEP 3.2 MACH 3.3 OpenStep 3.4 Objective-C 3.5 NEXTSTEP Developer 3.6 D'OLE 3.7 PDO --- Portable Distributed Objects 3.8 EOF --- Enterprise Objects Framework 3.9 WebObjects 3.10 WWW Browser 3.11 Newsreader 4 Miscellaneous information 4.1 How do I get pictures of people from remote sites to appear in Mail.app and NewsGrazer? 4.2 How to manipulate and examine default settings 4.3 How do I run NextApps remotely? 4.4 Why does UUCP hangs on outgoing connections after sending the password, but other communications software do not have a problem with it? 4.5 How do I access the NeXT's Digital Webster Dictionary from a program? 4.6 How do I get the arrow keys to work in csh? 4.7 What default affects menu location? 4.8 How to get Gourmet to boot up the Mathematica 2.0 kernel? 4.9 Manipulating the Loginwindow 4.10 How does one set UNIX man pages to be viewed in nroff format with DL like the standard manual pages in NS2.x? 4.11 Appending a signature and addition headers to your e-mail 4.12 How can I quickly find a file if I don't know its directory? 4.13 Mail.app suddenly stopped working! 4.14 Recycler doesn't work anymore?! 4.15 How to hear sound from CDPlayer.app thought NEXTSTEP system? 4.16 How do I decompress a file with the extension .compressed? 4.17 How do I change the Workspace compression app? 4.18 console: loginwindow: netinfo problem - No such directory. 4.19 Root login not possible on client machine 4.20 How to boot NEXTSTEP from the second (higher SCSI ID) HD? 4.21 How to make swapfile shrink to the normal size? 4.22 Does netinfo work between machines running NEXTSTEP 2.x and 3.x? 4.23 Why does the console user "own" the external disk filesystem? 4.24 How to limit coredump sizes? 4.25 What is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup? 4.26 How can I change the mouse pointer shape and color? 4.27 How do I customize BuildDisk to create a bootable disk of my own configuration? 4.28 Are there any more dwrites useful for the workspace, ...? 4.29 What is the @LongLink message from gnutar all about? 4.30 What stands the file .place3_0.wmd for? 4.31 How to create transparent icons with IconBuilder 4.32 How to access the MAC format of a mixed DOS/MAC CD-ROM 4.33 Is there a PPP for NEXTSTEP 5 Black (NeXT) hardware 5.1 What disk drives will work with the NeXT? 5.2 Will a 68030 NeXT Computer run NEXTSTEP 3.3? 5.3 How do I configure my HP 660 to boot properly? 5.4 What is the procedure for installing a Fujitsu M2263SA/SB SCSI Disk as the NeXT Boot Disk? 5.5 How to mount a corrupted OD that won't automount? 5.6 What non-NeXT CD Players that work with a NeXT? 5.7 What are some other sources of toner cartridges and trays for the NeXT laser printer? 5.8 What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with a NeXT? 5.9 What can I do to prevent my NeXT printer from running all the time? 5.10 What type of microphones will work with the NeXT? 5.11 How do I connect a modem to the NeXT? 5.12 Are there any alternative sources for the SCSI-II to SCSI-I cable required to attach external SCSI devices to the 040 NeXTs? 5.13 What fax modems will work with the NeXT? 5.14 How may I attach more than two serial ports to the NeXT? 5.15 What is the best and/or cheapest way to connect a NeXT to a thick Ethernet? 5.16 How can I connect my NeXT to the telephone line and use it like an answering Machine? 5.17 What color monitors can I use with the Color NeXT machines? 5.18 Where can I get 13W3 to BNC adapters to connect third party color monitors? 5.19 How may I attach Centronics or 16 bit wide parallel ports to the NeXT? 5.20 Why does an unused serial port consume cpu? 5.21 How to adjust MegaPixel Display brightness and focus? 5.22 I want to emulate a macintosh, how? 5.23 My NeXT laser printer fails to fully eject the sheet - how to fix? 5.24 What are the NeXT mouse connections? 5.25 What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT? 5.26 What is the NeXT SIMM tool? 5.27 Where can I purchase a NeXT machine? 5.28 Where to obtain hardware service? 5.29 What types of NeXT machines were manufactured? 5.30 What can be done about older 030 NeXT cubes that have a fan that turns in the "wrong" direction? 5.31 Can I connect SONY MPX-111N to my 68030 NeXT Computer? 5.32 Why does the OD continually spin up and spin down? 5.33 How many colors can NeXT machines display? 5.34 Why is my machine so slow when I run the monochrome and NeXTdimension displays? 5.35 Where to obtain replacement mouse parts? 5.36 Where to obtain extra batteries? 5.37 How to convert a Turbo system to use ADB? 5.38 68030 board in the same NeXTcube as a 68040 board? 5.39 How to expand DSP memory? 5.40 How to boot a NeXT without a monitor? 5.41 Where can I get black spray paint for my NeXT? 5.42 What makes aged NeXT monitors dim? 5.43 How to use two internal hard drives 6 White (Intel) hardware 6.1 What about support for NeXT Computer specific hardware features such as the DSP? 6.2 Do Multi-Architecture Binaries take a lot of extra disk space? 6.3 How difficult is it to recompile existing NeXT applications over to NEXTSTEP/Intel? 6.4 When developing programs, are there any portability issues I should be aware of? 6.5 What is the difference between the NEXTSTEP/Intel User Environment and Developer Environment? 6.6 If a specific I/O card is not supported by NeXT, can 3rd parties write drivers for NEXTSTEP/Intel? 6.7 How is NEXTSTEP/Intel installed? 6.8 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on 386 machines? 6.9 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on the Cyrix 486SLC? 6.10 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on the future Intel Microprocessors in the x86 family? 6.11 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on portable computers? 6.12 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel be able to run MS-DOS and Windows programs? 6.13 How will my DOS and Windows applications perform under NEXTSTEP/Intel? 6.14 Is the window I use to run Microsoft Windows applications resizable? 6.15 Will this DOS/Windows compatibility system allow me to run several DOS programs at once? 6.16 Can I cut and paste between DOS/Windows sessions and NEXTSTEP applications? 6.17 Can I use both DOS and NEXTSTEP/Intel partitions on the same hard disk? 6.18 Can NEXTSTEP/Intel read, write, and format DOS and Mac floppies? 6.19 NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.1, DOS, Linux/NT multi-boot system? 6.20 NeXTSTEP on INTEL, KEYBOARD-ERROR ... 6.21 NS 3.2 Tseng ET4000 Video Driver doesn't work. 6.22 Accessing ROM monitor on Intel-System, how? 6.23 Adaptec 2940 Fast and Sync. SCSI explanation... 6.24 Do EIDE-Drives work with NEXTSTEP? 6.25 Anyone have a driver yet that does 8 bit color on an ET4000/w32p card? (Hercules Dynamite Pro VLB) 6.26 Does a Glidepoint pointing device work with NEXTSTEP? 6.27 AppleTalk under NEXTSTEP/Intel? 6.28 Booting hangs with black screen 6.29 Why are the features of my graphic card useless? 6.30 How to use MIDI without the MusicKit? 7 Storage 7.1 Disktab help needed: ST15230N 7.2 Formatting DEC DSP3105 with 1024-byte blocks. 7.3 My formatted disk has much less space then advertised! 7.4 Can't initialise my disk within the Workspace 7.5 Initialing Opticals for NeXT 7.6 How to use a tape drive ? 7.7 How to recover from an partially formatted disk? 7.8 What about the ZIP drive? 8 Printing 8.1 What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with NEXTSTEP? 8.2 What fonts can I use with NEXTSTEP? 8.3 How can I save my printable documents to a postscript file? 8.4 How can I print only the even or odd pages of a document? 8.5 How do I get banner pages on my printer output? 8.6 How do I get [la]TeX files to print correctly on non-NeXT printers? 8.7 What if I have a PostScript font has not been ported to NEXTSTEP? 8.8 What color printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with NEXTSTEP? 8.9 How can I make the Page Layout default to A4 in all applications? 8.10 /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: syntax error at line 31: `end of file' unexpected? 8.11 How to get TeX with NEXTSTEP to make proper fonts for a 600 dpi laserwriter? 8.12 How to get printer description files (PPD)? 8.13 What are the Canon part numbers for ink cartridges equivalent to those NeXT's Color Printer uses? 8.14 JetPilot does not work with my JetDirect box, why? 8.15 powering down NeXTprinter during bootup, printer still works 8.16 How to set up the HP LaserJet 4M? 8.17 Laserwriter NTX & NEXTSTEP 8.18 Problems with gray levels in printout 9 Obsolete but still interesting? 9.1 Where can I get NeXT paraphernalia? 9.2 Is there any way to change the text in the title bar of a terminal window? 9.3 I can't get my pictures in OmniWeb 9.4 How do I remap the and | keys on my keyboard? 9.5 How do I stop NeXTMail/Sendmail adding &Mcirc;s onto the end of lines? 9.6 Why does NEXTSTEP 1.0 hang a few seconds after attempting to boot? 9.7 Modem hangs under NS2.0 by incoming calls 9.8 NS2.0 doesn't recognize /LocalApps path _________________________________________________________________ This document was converted from LaTeX using Karl Ewald's latex2html. The NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FAQ ! to the table of contents _________________________________________________________________ 1 INTRODUCTION 1.1 About this FAQ These are the frequently asked questions concerning NeXT, NeXTSTEP or any other NeXT related topics. This compilation is meant primarily as a service to the (comp.sys.next and de.comp.sys.next) community. NeXT Software,Inc. is a privately hold company, heading towards software business. It sells NEXTSTEP its award winning OS and several other software packages (most included with NEXTSTEP): EOF, NEXTSTEP Developer, WebObjects, NetInfo, ... With the coming 'open' version of NEXTSTEP, which is named OpenStep and will run not only on top of Mach (as NEXTSTEP does) but also on Solaris, Windows NT, Windows 95, HP-UX. The user of NeXT's software is confronted with a wide range of different software and hardware. To help in the unaware user, this FAQ was founded. But also professional users might find some interesting information, which they didn't knew already. Note the NEXTSTEP and OpenStep questions often concern related topics like Objective-C, UNIX, administration tasks, etc. for which already separate FAQs do exist. See the new.answers newsgroup for additional FAQs, if your problem isn't covered by this FAQ. 1.2 Submissions As with all FAQs the quality of the information provided here is mostly depending on the Usenet community, which in most cases serves for the information resource. Feel free to e-mail the FAQ author to contribute, or send error reports. If you contact the author, use the following subject for submissions: FAQ submission. To report errors use: FAQ error. Additionally you might want to add the chapter where the submission/error report belongs to. 1.3 Availability This FAQ is published monthly in the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups and in the near future news.answer. It may be downloaded via FTP from ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Documents/faq/. Special additions for redistributors and homeusers do exist. This FAQ may be accessed only through Peanuts as well: http://peanuts.leo.org/ In the near future we want to implement an e-mail service for those who don't have access to news. You may add yourself to the mailinglist by sending an e-mail with subject: FAQ mailme. Note that this service isn't available, yet, and will only beco me available if there is enough request and not before June 1996. 1.4 Copyright This FAQ is copyrighted by Bernhard Scholz. (Internet e-mails: scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de) Mentioned trademarks belong to their holder and are not explicitly listened. We do not collect any royalties, charge any fees, or compensate anyone in connection with this endeavor, but of course we would be happy about each e-mail commenting on the FAQ, about pizzas (lasagne is accepted, too :-) ), postcards, ... Anyway we reserve a copyright on the the published information in this FAQ. Any questions concerning other redistribution should be send to the authors of the FAQ. Reprinting of this FAQ, even in parts, is prohibited without permission by the author except for printings for private use. Newsletter editors wishing to excerpt from this work for publication should consider using local electronic bulletin boards to disseminate this information rather than preparing hardcopies. This allows for readers to access the most recent information, and perhaps save a couple of trees. 1.5 Disclaimer Of course there is no warranty in any case using the information provided here. We haven't tested the information to be correct. We are not affiliated with any of the companies mentioned in this FAQ. 1.6 Thanks Especially we want to thank the Usenet community for contributing to the FAQ and all the people who have written us. We want to say "thank you" to Nathan, who did a great job on first FAQs. Best wishes to you and your family!!! We want to thank Maximilian Goedel, who did the first reword on the FAQs after Nathan gave up. Thanks also to Karl Ewald, who contributed his latex2html Perl script which replaced the non working original latex2html version. 2 GENERAL INFORMATION General information 2.1 Where to get answers? If you run into a problem, first read the FAQ of course :-) Second you might consider asking NeXT directly through the electronic service: nextanswers@next.com. Send an e-mail with subject: ascii help index to start. If all fails, post to the newsgroups concerning NeXT related topics: comp.sys.next.*, de.comp.sys.next. 2.2 How may I contact NeXT, Inc.? Next, Inc. Contacting NeXT, Inc. Address of NeXT, Inc. NeXT, Inc. can be reached under the following addresses. USA: NeXT, Inc. 900 Chesapeake Drive Redwood City, CA 94063 Voice: 800-848-NeXT (Redwood City #) Voice: (415)-366-0900 Japan: NeXT marketing div. of Canon - Japan Phone: (81)-44-549-5295 Fax: (81)-44-549-5462 EUROPE: Munich: Phone: (49)-89-996-5310 UK: Technology House Meadowbank Furlong Road Bourne End Bucks SL8 5AJ Phone: (44)-1628 535222 Fax: (44)-1628 535200 Note: numbers abroad are listed with the country codes first. You will need to dial the international access number of your long distance carrier before proceeding to dialing the country code, area code and phone number. 2.3 FTP servers FTP Software The FAQ mentions a lot of software packages which you might find useful. In general there are two big sites serving Europe and the US. These sites keep most of the software available and do mirror themselves to keep up to date (although the structure of the archive differ). If the software isn't on one of these sites, the appr opriate site is listed in the text. If you get slow connections you might want to consider contacting a mirror of the both sites. For the Peanuts archive (Europe) the WWW pages http://peanuts.leo.org give you links to an updated list of mirrors and other FTP sites. The addresses are: next-ftp.peak.org (formerly the ftp.cs.orst.edu archive) peanuts.leo.org (Peanuts archive in Europe) 2.4 Software on CD There are currently two CD (sets) which serve you with NEXTSTEP/OpenStep software: Nebula. Nebula is published by Walnut Creek and mostly contains actual recompiled software for all supported hardware platforms. It might be the best choice for those who don't own a compiler. A big font collection and a developer section complete t he disk. Peanuts Archive Disks. The Peanuts FTP Archive in Munich distributes their complete NEXTSTEP/OpenStep archive on CD. This currently brings you 3CDs full with software. Although the software isn't compiled for each hardware (it is provided 'as uploaded') it is the most complete software and information resource available on CD. (It includes the NeXTanswers published by NeXT). Fatted Calf CD-ROM. The Fatted Calf CD-ROM is published by Ensuing Technologies, LasVegas, Nevada. Currently I don't know it's special contents. 2.5 What is the current status of NEXTSTEP/OpenStep? status, NEXTSTEP status, OpenStep The third production version 3.3, has been released for Intel Processors (i486 and higher) as well as for NeXT hardware (not manufactured any longer but still supported), HP workstations and Sun workstations. OpenStep versions are announced and will be available this year (1996) for Windows NT, Windows 95, Mach, Solaris and hopefully HP-UX. The status for DEC machines and their OS (OSF/1, OpenVMS) is unknown. At least it is uncertain that there will be a port to OSF/1 or even OpenVMS, because DEC is doing the port alone. At least you can run OpenStep on DEC machines running Windows NT in the near future. For Sun's Solaris systems OpenStep will probably be part of the NeoDesktop. There will be no NEXTSTEP 4.0, because NeXT changed the naming conventions. NEXTSTEP 4.0 (also sometimes referenced as 'Mecca') is now named 'OpenStep for Mach' 2.6 Will there be a public implementation of OpenStep? Yes, there is a project by GNU. The so named GNUStep is available in pre-alpha state from the archive sites. Be aware that it is not fully functional and currently requires Motif. In its current state, GNUStep is on it's way to port the FoundationKit completely. This alone makes it worth to give it a try. 2.7 Are there differences between Openstep for Mach and other implementations? Yes there are. OpenStep for Mach will include all the well known features from NEXTSTEP (Services, Filters, SoundKit, ...) which the other implementations will lack, due to the underlying OS. To get all the benefits which is offered in NEXTSTEP today, you need to go for OpenStep for Mach. 2.8 What information is available by NeXT information NeXT NeXT, Inc. now operates an automatic e-mail response system. Send e-mail to "nextanswers@next.com" with the subject "ascii help index" to start. If you do have access to the world wide web, you even want to try the following URL: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/. 2.9 What is the correct spelling? NeXT did (and probably will) change their naming conventions a lot. E.g. NEXTSTEP is the current correct spelling for their operating system. With the shipping of OpenStep, there will be no more NEXTSTEP, but OpenStep for Mach/Solaris/HP-UX/Windows95/Wind owsNT. Incorrect spellings are: NeXTSTEP, NeXTstep, NeXTStep. A common shortcut used in the newsgroups is: NS for NEXTSTEP. 2.10 How do I start an official NeXT User Group? NUG user groups NeXT user groups To start a user group, just send e-mail to user_groups@next.com. 2.11 Are there differences in the NEXTSTEP implementations? No, there are no differences beside the DSP, which is a hardware feature of NeXT computers. On other hardware platforms you have to buy additional hardware. 2.12 What are the names of the ftp sites that have NeXT-related files? FTP, servers There are too many to list them all, so are here are just a few. NEXTSTEP: cs.orst.edu ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (peanuts) nova.cc.purdue.edu sonata.cc.purdue.edu umd5.umd.edu ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de MIT GNU: aeneas.mit.edu MIT X: export.lcs.mit.edu music: princeton.edu 2.13 Additional information sources Additional information Information, additional Every NeXT machine owner has access to manuals to a degree. Network and System Administration (NSA), for example contains answers to many of the questions asked to comp.sys.next. Some of the important man pages are reproduced in the NSA as appendices. User manuals were shipped with every NeXT. Additional copies available from NeXT (N6002/N6003/N6014/N6026) $25. The following books are available directly from NeXT: * Operating System Software * NeXTstep Concepts * NeXTstep Reference, v. 1 * NeXTstep Reference, v. 2 * Development Tools * Sound, Music, and Signal Processing: Concepts * Sound, Music, and Signal Processing: Reference * Writing Loadable Kernel Servers * Technical Summaries * Supplemental Documentation Unix man pages, which are included in the online docs. BSD unix documentation (MISC, PS1, PS2, SMM, USD). Available from to USENIX site members. A lot of this has been integrated into the NeXT documentation. Some of this is sorely missing. The SMM Unix System Manager's Manual is really useful! USENIX Association 2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215 Berkeley, CA 94710 USA +1 510 528 8649 fax +1 510 548 5738 office@usenix.org * PS1 = Programmer's Supplementary Documents, Volume 1 * PS2 = Programmer's Supplementary Documents, Volume 2 * SMM = System Manager's Manual * USD = User's Supplementary Documents The SMM and the rest of the berkeley documentation are also available directly and for free via anon ftp e.g. from ftp.uu.net /packages/bsd-sources/share/doc. To format them properly for viewing and printing on the NeXT use nroff with the package indicated by the file suffix (e.g. to format the documentation file 0.t use nroff -mt 0.t). Adobe documentation. Available machine-readable by e-mail from ps-file-server@adobe.com. Hardcopy available from Adobe Developer Support Line +1 415 961-4111 for a nominal charge. NeXT last shipped these as part of the 1.0a release; hardcopies appeared in 0.9 Technical Documentation, were omitted in 1.0, and have returned in updated form in Supplemental Documentation of the 2.0 Tech Docs (which is not available on-line). Get NextAnswers for Digital Librarian from NeXT. The current versions are actually on ftp.next.com or available via the mailserver at nextanswers@next.com. Get NeXT Support Bulletin from the archives. It is meant for support centers. Another good source of information is the archives of previously posted notes from the comp.sys.next.* newsgroups. Note that since the split of comp.sys.next, there is a group archive maintained at peanuts.leo.org:/pub/comp/sys/next/. NeXTstep Advantage book is available electronically from the archive servers. The file name is NeXTstepAdvantage.tar.Z; (its compressed size is about 1.3 megabytes; uncompressed, it's about 9.5 megabytes). It is a good introduction to the NeXT programming environment. 2.14 How to get FTP files via e-mail. FTP, e-mail access Some ftp sites are configured as an e-mail archive server. This means you can upload and download files via e-mail. Send mail to: archive-server@cc.purdue.edu ------------- mail-server@cs.tu-berlin.de (with the subject line help and you will get a complete description of this service) Submissions: Mail should be sent to archive-server@cc.purdue.edu with the subject of 'submission' (no ticks) if a person is submitting material to the archives. They need to include a 1-2 sentence description of the submission, the OS release the product runs on, and if it is source, binary, newsletter, etc. 2.15 References on Objective C Objective-C, documents Objective-C and other useful Object-oriented programming references: Budd, Timothy, An Introduction to Object-Oriented Programming (Addison-Wesley) [It discusses Smalltalk, Object Pascal, C++ and Objective-C] Cox, Brad J., Object Oriented Programming: An Evolutionary Approach ISBN 0-201-10393-1. (Addison-Wesley) [Note: 2nd edition - ISBN is 0-201-54834-8 and has coauthor A.J. Novobilski] Huizenga, Gerrit, Slides from a short course on Objective-C available via anonymous ftp from: sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/docs/ObjC.frame.Z, ObjC.ps.Z, or OldObjC.wn.tar.Z Meyer, Bertrand, Object-Oriented Software Construction (Prentice-Hall). NeXT Technical Documentation Pinson and Weiner, Objective-C: Object-Oriented Programming Techniques (Addison-Wesley). 350 pages, ISBN 0 201 50828 1, paperback. User Reference Manual for Objective-C which is available from Stepstone Corporation. (203)426-1875. Note: There are some differences between Stepstone's Objective-C and NeXT's. 2.16 How to contact music interested people. Music, contacts Since NeXT has become for now the platform of choice for much of the computer music composition and research community, the newsgroup comp.music is one good place to find people with information and interest in music on the NeXT. There is also a mailing list specifically for NeXT music. For posting to the dist list: nextmusic@horowitz.eecs.umich.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change addresses, etc.: nextmusic-request@horowitz.eecs.umich.edu 2.17 How to announce upcoming events Announcements Please send any announcements of upcoming NeXT-related events to next-announce@digifix.com These events will be posted to comp.sys.next.announce. Be sure to send your announcement in plenty of time to have it posted prior to the event. One to two weeks in advance would be a good idea. Since postings will be carried across many networks, commercial announcements may be edited down to reflect network usage policies. Look for current guidelines posted weekly in the newsgroup. 2.18 Can I mix different hardware running NEXTSTEP? NeXT, networking Networking Of course! NEXTSTEP is design to plug and play with existing NeXT installations. NeXT has addressed interoperability between NEXTSTEP systems in the following ways: * NEXTSTEP systems share identical networking capabilities. * NEXTSTEP systems share the same Distributed Objects. * NEXTSTEP systems use the same system and network administration services. * NEXTSTEP systems use the same mass storage format. Yes, you can take a external SCSI drive, removable media (e.g. Bernoulli etc) or floppy disk and use it interchangeably between NeXT Computers running NEXTSTEP. 2.19 Can I exchange software running on different hardware? With the shipping of NEXTSTEP 3.x binaries are distributed FAT. This means, that a binary might include different versions of the executable for each hardware platform NEXTSTEP is running on. On the archive sites you might easily recognize the supported h ardware by a key letter: N = NeXT computers, I=Intel based, H=HP hardware, S=Sun hardware. A FAT binary is runable by every supported hardware listed in the binary file. NeXT ships tools to examine such a fat binary and to add/strip different hardwa re modules to/from a binary. The correct spelling for a fat binary is: MAB binary (multi architecture binary) but most commonly 'fat' is used. With the shipping of OpenStep this will change. OpenStep applications are only sourcecode compatible and have to be recompiled for each architecture. This implies that you need a compiler for future PD/SW/FW-software, although OpenStep for Mach will still support FAT binaries and NEXTSTEP 3.x applications will continue to run under OpenStep for Mach. 3 WHAT IS ... What is ... This chapter tries to give you some overview over NEXTSTEP/OpenStep software and related software. For a detailed description you should contact the producer's WWW server. E.g. for more information about OpenStep contact http://www.next.com/ 3.1 NEXTSTEP NEXTSTEP NEXTSTEP is a complete development and user environment by NeXT it provides an unique GUI (graphical user interface), which currently gets copied by several other OS provider like Microsoft, combined with the currently most advanced and tested OS, named M ACH. NeXT applied several changes to the MACH kernel to add special features which makes NEXTSTEP unique. NEXTSTEP comes with a lot of development kits (bundles of classes to build on), like: Sound Kit, Indexing Kit, 3D Graphics Kit, Database or EOF Kit and Application Kit. This will change with OpenStep. Bundled with NEXTSTEP are several user applications which enhance the daily use dramatically: NeXTMail (a MIME compatible mail application), Edit (a simple but powerful editor), FaxReader (for reading incoming faxes, you are able to send faxes from every application which supports printing), DigitalWebster (Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary and Collegiate Thesaurus), Digital Librarian (indexing and full text search utility, usable over groups of files) Preview (a PostScript and TIFF display utilit y), Terminal (UNIX terminal application for VT100 and TN3270 emulation), TeX (a well known compiler for formatted text), SYBASE and ORACLE adapters (to contact to SYBASE and ORACLE databases within EOF applications). One special thing about NEXTSTEP is the display system. NeXT uses DPS (Display Post Script), which gives you true WYSIWYG on every NEXTSTEP system. The window server supports PostScript Level II, Interactive RenderMan and Photorealistic RenderMan (an dist ributed engine for fast high quality rendering, based on Pixar's RenderMan). To be used in networks, NEXTSTEP supports NFS, NetInfo, Novell Netware (as client only), Ethernet and Token Ring and different filesystems (Mac, DOS, ISO 9660, High Sierra, Rock Ridge). For multimedia purposes NeXT uses Lempel-Ziv compression for text, Audio Transform Compression for Sound (comparable to Sony MiniDisc), JPEG for TIFF and Group 4 for Fax. Of course these are only standard modes and NEXTSTEP is extensible to use other meth ods too. For system administration (remember that NEXTSTEP is using MACH as an UNIX derivate), NeXT supplies several administration applications which make it easy to configure NEXTSTEP as needed, like: SimpleNetworkStarter, UserManager, PrintManager, NFSManager, HostManager, NetInfo Manager, BuildDisk, Upgrader and the complete documentation and manual pages online. 3.2 MACH MACH MACH is the the basic OS layer NeXT uses for NEXTSTEP. It is a micro kernel, which means it is extensible at runtime. Micro kernel often stands for a small kernel size, too, but due to the compatibility to BSD 4.3 MACH is currently about 1MB in size. Features of MACH are: loadable kernel services (extensions during runtime), different scheduling algorithms, an advanced messaging system, an advanced memory allocation mechanism (copy on demand, world wide message broadcasting), true multitasking, multi threading and BSD compatibility. 3.3 OpenStep OpenStep OpenStep is the latest release of NeXT's NEXTSTEP with the ability to be OS independent (NEXTSTEP depends on MACH). OpenStep is currently available for Windows NT and Mach and will get available for Windows 95, Solaris, SunOS, HP-UX and DEC OSF/1. The architecture of OpenStep was made public in late 1995 and since then GNU is working on a public port of OpenStep to e.g. X11 based UNIX systems. To express the new standard, OpenStep for Mach is now the correct spelling for the formerly named NEXTSTEP product by NeXT, but it is known that NeXT itself is still using the same version numbering scheme for at least the Mach product line, so the first release of OpenStep for Mach is equivalent to NEXTSTEP 4.0. OpenStep is supposed to be an industry standard for developing object oriented, system independent, scalable solutions for client/server architectures. It was adopted by Sun, Hewlett Packard and Digital. It provides distributed applications through PDO (Portable Distributed Objects) and D'OLE (Distributed OLE) based on CORBA. The usage of EOF supplies object persistence with traditional relational databases. And finally with WebObjects, objects are accessible through the internet or in your own private ne twork. OpenStep, like NEXTSTEP 3.3 provides several kits for software developers like: Application Kit and Foundation Kit as well as Display PostScript. Applications written for OpenStep are sourcecode compatible to all other architectures running OpenStep, although FAT binaries are only available under OpenStep for Mach. For the NEXTSTEP user OpenStep doesn't take away old known features. In addition with OpenStep for Mach you get Mach enhancements, an enhanced workspace manager, Perl5, TaylerUUCP, PPP and Samba. Old applications will continue to run under OpenStep for Mach and need to be recompiled to run under Windows 95, Windows NT, Solaris, HP-UX and other OpenStep platforms. Because OpenStep was just released there is still some speculation about it's features at the time of this writing. The following are some rumours: * documented NEXTIME library for developing * faster message handling * handling of disks >2GB in partitioning size * relocateable drivers (exchange drivers on the fly, without rebooting) * support for multisession CD-ROMs * limited update availability until 15th July. 3.4 Objective-C Objective-C To develop applications NeXT uses Objective-C as its native programming language. Objective-C is a more strict OO language then C++ but covers C as well as C++. Because NeXT uses the GNU C/C++ compiler, you go with the most spreaded and tested C compiler available for most UNIX platforms today. (Of course you can use Objective-C on every platform on which gcc is available). Objective-C is different to other languages in the way it executes code. Objective-C uses a runtime library to dynamically access objects at runtime. This allows you to change objects at runtime etc. All this goes with nearly no speed penalty, because has hing mechanisms are used to access the different methods of an object. There is also ObjC which is an different product, available as a commercial compiler for different operating systems. Don't mix up things with by using the expression ObjC instead of Objective-C. For shortcut purposes the NeXT community also uses the term ObjC/Obj-C but of course thinks of Objective-C by NeXT. Objective-C isn't standardized, yet. In Objective-C you are able to mix code. E.g. you can use C++ and C in any Objective-C program. Objective-C is a simple and concise object-oriented extension to ANSI-C. It has a runtime messaging facility and offers dynamic binding. Distributed objects are supported and the code is optimized for native compilations. It's syntax and programming technique is much like in SmallTalk. Using Objective-C you can even message objects in other applications, also over a network! 3.5 NEXTSTEP Developer NEXTSTEP Developer NEXTSTEP Developer is currently the only way to develop applications under NEXTSTEP because it includes all the necessary include files and libraries. (Of course you can get any GNU C version precompiled, but it won't help you without the include files and linker libraries). In addition to a precompiled GCC, include files and the linker libraries you will get the famous NeXT developer tools: ProjectBuilder (your commando center for building applications and managing sources), InterfaceBuilder (for designing the application's GUI and making object connections), an graphical addition to GDB (GNU Debugger) integrated in Edit, MallocDebug (for seeking memory leaks), HeaderViewer (access class information in header files and in documented form in a browser), DBModeler (for buildin g data models, based on Database Kit), Yap (an interactive PostScript interpreter and viewer), IconBuilder (a very simple but extensible pixel-based editor for creating icons) and popular UNIX utilities like GNU Emacs, yacc, lex, vi... 3.6 D'OLE D'OLE D'OLE is a shortcut for Distributed OLE. OLE is Microsoft's standard for Object Linking and Embedding and is currently not distributable across platforms. With D'OLE you can distribute OLE objects across the network like e.g. in SOM by IBM. But D'OLE is m ore. It uses NeXT's object model PDO (Portable Distributed Objects) from Unix to Windows platforms and enables OLE objects to communicate with OpenStep objects natively, which means without changing the application. OpenStep objects behave like OLE object s and vice versa. D'OLE also supports EOF which enables a distributed computing environment that provides an infinitely flexible choice of application deployment of application deployment strategies. D'OLE uses the Foundation Framework, Distributed Object Framework and other core classes. It comes bundled with C/Objective-C compiler and GNU make, although Microsoft Visual C++ is required. Further you get a portable nmserver, MACH emulation and on-line documentation. 3.7 PDO --- Portable Distributed Objects PDO PDO is a shortcut for Portable Distributed Objects. In the near future PDO will become CORBA 2.0 compliant. It is the industry's first product to provide a heterogeneous client/server framework on objects. With PDO it is possible to deploy objects on non-NEXTSTEP server machines and therefore deployed anywhere in a network, wherever they are most appropriate fo r a task. PDO encapsulates low-level network protocols, making messaging a remote object as straightforward as messaging a local object. You even don't have to learn new programming tools or techniques, because PDO is a subset of NEXTSTEP tools and objects. Because PDO makes object location completely transparent to the application, the application communicates with every object the same way regardless wether it is local, in the local network or anywhere in the world. Because of the free location of objects, objects may get moved to other locations, e.g. to optimize performance, without modification of the application using it. Because PDO also runs on non-NEXTSTEP servers, it comes with it's own set of classes, libraries and even an Objective-C++ compiler, etc. Neverless you can build, maintain, etc. from any NEXTSTEP client connected to a PDO server. The tools used for buildin g the final objects however are native to the server's OS. PDO comes with Foundation Framework, Distributed Objects Framework, DOEventLoop and other core classes. Bundled tools are: Objective-C++ compiler, GDB, libg++, GNU make, Portable BuildServer, Portable nmserver, Mach Emulation, NEXTSTEP's default system, o n-line documentation. Currently supported platforms are: HP-UX, SunOS, Solaris, Digital UNIX. 3.8 EOF --- Enterprise Objects Framework EOF EOF bridges the gap between objects and relational databases. With EOF you can bring the advantage of object oriented design etc. to applications which use relational databases. (Therefore you don't need an object oriented database!) EOF clarifies many things. It supports a three-tier client/server architecture by separating the user interface, business objects and the database. In fact you can simply exchange the database (by changing the adapter) and still use the same application! Developing under EOF doesn't limit you to e.g. Objective-C. EOF allows the integration of e.g. 4GL code as well as SQL etc. all combined under the advantage of NeXT's developer tools. EOF includes client and server software. It consists of the Enterprise Object Modeler, runtime libraries and adapters for SYBASE and ORACLE (other adapters available from the DBMS producers). It currently runs under HP-UX, SunOS, Solaris, Digital UNIX and always requires PDO. For client use you additionally need NEXTSTEP. 3.9 WebObjects WebObjects WebObjects helps you building dynamic Web pages. It is targeted to the server side of the Web and there mostly to the intranets, also most people might find it very useful for the Internet, too. It is operating system independent and runs under Windows NT , Solaris, HP-UX, Digital UNIX and NEXTSTEP (Windows 95 announced). WebObjects contains development tools to build components for your application logic, as well as a set of reusable components to manage the rendering of your application. Because WebObjects is Java compatible, you even can integrate Java applets in your a pplication today. It supports the standard http servers which have to support CGI or NSAPI interface. WebObjects supports database access to Informix, Oracle, Sybase and DB/2. What's unique about WebObjects is the ability to share the logic of your Web application and your data with other internal applications. It means that you are not required to maintain a dedicated database or write specific application code for your Web ap plication. Currently there are three versions of WebObjects: WebObjects, WebObjects Pro and WebObjects Enterprise. WebObjects itself is freely available to anybody interested in. WebObjects Pro contains PDO and WebObjects Enterprise contains PDO and EOF with a speci al license to connect to the Internet. But because WebObjects is a brand new product, look at http://www.next.com/WebOjects/ for further information. WebObjects is free for academic usage. 3.10 WWW Browser WWW Browser Browser OmniWeb NetSurfer SpiderWoman NetScape Several NEXTSTEP browsers are available for NEXTSTEP. The currently most advanced browser is named 'OmniWeb'. OmniWeb is commercial in the way that you need a license to use it in a network. A single user license is free. OmniWeb seems to be continuesly u pdated and support is known to be good. OmniWeb is also supporting a lot of well known Netscape features. There is also a public domain WWW browser named 'SpiderWoman'. It's plus is the NEXTSTEP look and feel (e.g. you navigate through the Web like you navigate your filesystem with WorkspaceManager). Anyway SpiderWoman is somehow unstable and it seems as if d evelopment stopped. Another commercial browser is NetSurfer. Demos are available on the ftp sites. This browser is preferred by several people because it integrates ftp access very well. Anyway you have to pay for it. Netscape isn't available for NEXTSTEP and is unlikely to be ported. The current state of Netscape seems to become more and more unclear because the latest release with Java support is known to work unstable on most systems. Also Netscape supports a lot of features which other companies are not going to adopt anymore as it was in the early times. Anyway you can use Netscape in the future under the most OpenStep platforms. 3.11 Newsreader Newsreader Alexandra NewsGrazer NewsFlash RadicalNews There are currently four well known newsreaders for NEXTSTEP. First there is Alexandra, a public domain newsreader and second there is NewsGrazer (and unsupported NeXT product). You should test them to get your personal favorite. The only real difference is the support of NEXTSTEP 3.3J (Japanese) and flatfiles in Ne wsGrazer, while the interface in Alexandra seems to be better to many people. NewsFlash is a commercial product which adds several features. As Radical news it supports article threading, automated posting and extraction of multi-part files. Demos are available on the ftp sites. E-mail inquiries should go to support@wolfware.c om. Further info is available at: http://www.wolfware.com/ RadicalNews is a commercial newsreader. It supports true article threadin, quoted text highlighting, japanese and Latin-1 support, URL-support, an interface to Digital Librarian, a sophisticated coloring scheme and much more. Info is available at: ht tp://www.radical.com/. A note to both commercial versions: the community is very splitted about which version is to prefer. In general it seems as if there are no really 'killer features' so it prefers much to personal taste. Demos are available and don't forget to test the fre e versions, too! 4 MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION Misc Various Unsorted 4.1 How do I get pictures of people from remote sites to appear in Mail.app and NewsGrazer? Pictures, in Mail Pictures, in NewsGrazer Mail, remote Pictures Newsgrazer, remote Pictures You can do this in the following ways. * Mail In /LocalLibrary/Images/People put a tiff (64x64) in the form of person@remote.site.domain.tiff (all lowercase). In /LocalLibrary/Images/People/passwd add an entry for the person: person@remote.site.domain:*:-2:-2::/nodir:/noshell (person and sitename need to be all lowercase as well) In the future anytime you get mail from the person their picture should appear. You can include an "aliases" file in /LocalLibrary/Images/People too. This allows you to use the same picture for somebody that might send you mail from accounts on many different sites, or for those people whose letters use several different routings. To do this, you include entries in this local aliases file like so: bkohler@ucrac1.ucr.edu:bkohler.gonzo.ucr.edu gonzo.ucr.edu!bkohler@uupsi2.uucp:bkohler.gonzo.ucr.edu There should then be a .tiff file called bkohler.gonzo.ucr.edu.tiff. There can be no CAPITAL LETTERS in this file. So even if the address in the From: field looks like gonzo.ucr.edu!bkohler@uupsi2.UUCP, keep the letters lowercase in the aliases file. As always, you have to restart Mail before these changes take effect. * NewsGrazer In /LocalLibrary/NewsGrazer/People put a tiff (64x64) in the form of person.remote.site.domain (all lowercase). This is a different naming convention from what Mail uses. There is a large archive of some 4000 or 5000 pictures prepared for this purpose. The name of this archive is Faces3.tar.Z and it is about 4.1 MBytes large. Currently it is available from several anonymous ftp sites (e.g. sonata.cc.purdue.edu in: /pub/next/graphics/Images/icons/people) That image archive also contains a script which automatically creates proper alias and passwd files. 4.2 How to manipulate and examine default settings * A command line utility for examining defaults is available from: sutro.sfsu.edu:/pub/wmdefaults1.0.tar.Z * A PD App, DefaultMgr.app, is available on the NeXT ftp archives. * A more brute approach (done by DefaultMgr.app): Start the application under gdb, and then try the following sequence of commands: break *0x500976a commands 1 silent printf "%s: ", *$a2 output {char *}(4+$a2) echo \n cont end run [Carl Edman ] adds: DefaultMgr.app doesn't any longer work properly under 3.0. It still is able to manipulate defaults but can't any longer "investigate" apps to find out which defaults they use. [eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)] adds: Needs to be revised for 3.x systems. wmdefaults is only for 2.x; it's not needed for 3.0 and later. 4.3 How do I run NextApps remotely? Remote running On the local machine make sure you have public window server access, this is set from the Preferences application. On the foreign NeXT machine run the application from a terminal window with the -NXHost . Both machines should be running the same version of NeXTstep. [shayman@Objectario.com (Steve Hayman)] NeXTSTEP 3.1 and higher includes a demo application called OpenSesame that simplifies this. You can select a program in Workspace and use > Service > Open Sesame > Open on Another Host ...to launch a program on a remote machine. This is a way to run old, non-fat-binary software on new NeXTSTEP/Intel machines. 4.4 Why does UUCP hangs on outgoing connections after sending the password, but other communications software do not have a problem with it? UUCP What is happening is that the remote machine is waiting for you to end your login or password by typing a "Return" (aka &Mcirc; or CR or CARRIAGE RETURN). UUCP ends a line by sending a LineFeed (aka &Jcirc; or LF). Since UUCP doesn't send the CR, the login sequence is never completed, and you will usually get one of two error messages: wanted "password:" (means that username needs to end with a CR) imsg waiting for SYNC< (means that password needs to end with CR) So how do you get UUCP to send CR, instead of LF? End the send string with the sequence n c. For instance this line in L.sys will send a LF after login, but a CR after password. myfeed Any DIR 9600 cub "" ATTD19095551212 9600 \ "" ogin:--ogin: Unext ssword: secret\n\c 4.5 How do I access the NeXT's Digital Webster Dictionary from a program? Webster Get Jiro Nakamura's define program from the archiver servers: define.tar.Z. This will allow you to access the database from the command line. This program breaks under 3.x. For 3.x there are two other programs which might be useful: Webster.a5 and websterd. 4.6 How do I get the arrow keys to work in csh? csh, arrow keys This is for people who use a terminal app that does vt100 keyboard emulation - pasc First, add these lines to your .cshrc (preferably between the if and endif): set editmode=emacs set macrofiles=.macros Then create a file called .bindings and put in it: bind-to-key ExecuteNamedMacro '\e[' And, next, you need to make a file called ".macros". Using an editor like emacs (which can insert control characters using a &Qcirc; prefix), into this file put: A^@^@^@^A^P B^@^@^@^A^N C^@^@^@^A^F D^@^@^@^A^B where &@circ; means Control-@ and ƒ means Control-A, etc. Also, don't put in the leading spaces. This will set up the left and right arrows to move back and forth on the line, and the up and down arrows will cycle through your history. On Intel machines these sequences are a little different: A^A^@^@^@^P B^A^@^@^@^N C^A^@^@^@^F D^A^@^@^@^B Then source .cshrc and the changes should take effect. 4.7 What default affects menu location? Menu, location Do the following. dwrite GLOBAL NXMenuX <value> dwrite GLOBAL NXMenuY <value> 4.8 How to get Gourmet to boot up the Mathematica 2.0 kernel? Mathematica Login as root, or get root privileges running su, and execute the following five commands: mkdirs /NextApps/Mathematica.app/Kernel/NeXT cd /NextApps/Mathematica.app/Kernel ln -s uuuuu/Mathematica.app/Kernel/Display Utilities cd NeXT ln -s vvvvv/math mathexe where uuuuu is the directory where Mathematica was placed (typically, /LocalApps) and vvvvv is the directory where the executable math was placed (typically, /usr/local/bin) 4.9 Manipulating the Loginwindow loginwindow dwrites There are some for loginwindow: [Jess Anderson writes:] Here, I hope, is the quasi-definitive story on dwrites that affect the loginwindow. I'm indebted to several people, notably Art Isbell, Kristian Koehntopp, Dan Danz, Louie Mamakos, John Kheit, Felix Lugo, and Paul Sears, for some of the information presented here. Remember that dwrites are not supported by NeXT; they may change with any subsequent system release. These I've checked out using 3.0; some or all may work with earlier releases, but I can't vouch for most of them. All these dwrites must be done as root. You can also run as root and use DefaultMgr to set them (which is a whole lot more convenient if you're intending to fiddle with some of them). After setting the things you want, restart the WindowServer by logging out of the current session and typing exit on the login panel. OK, here's what we know (or think we do :-): dwrite loginwindow DefaultUser <login-name> Most new machines have set to me. This dwrite logs in user automatically. User must not have a password set, hence don't use this in a networked environment! dwrite loginwindow HostName "<host_name>" dwrite loginwindow HostName localhost These cause your host name to appear on the login panel. You need quote marks only if there's a space in the name. The first form hard-codes the name into root's defaults database. The second form uses whatever name has been set as localhost in NetInfo, which is convenient for networked machines. The font, size, color, and position of the printed string are not accessible (drat!). dwrite loginwindow ImageFile <path/to/a/suitable.tiff> This uses the tiff image pointed to instead of the standard one (in /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/English.lproj/nextlogin.tiff, .lproj as appropriate for your main language) as the login panel. Be sure you get the pointer right, though, or you'll have to boot single-user to fix it. In practical terms, the image is constrained in various ways I won't detail here. dwrite loginwindow TimeToDim <integer_number> No relation to the dim time set by Preferences. The units are odd, I think. Felix reported them as 1/34 second. However, when I changed it to 1020, I got 15 seconds to dimming, and 680 gives 10 seconds, that I'm sure of. So I think the units are 1/68 second. Maybe Felix just thought it was too damn long! We all know it seems longer when you're not having fun waiting. :-) Whatever, the login screen dims to about half after this length of time. dwrite loginwindow MoveWhenIdle YES This causes the panel to move around approximately in Backspace bouncing-off-the-walls-tiff fashion. The point is to avoid burning the screen phosphors, as a static image would tend to do. The animation is controlled by the next couple dwrites. dwrite loginwindow MovementTimeout <real_number> The units are seconds. The panel starts moving (assuming the preceding is set to YES) after this time. If you set it to be less than the TimeToDim time, the movement starts before the dimming occurs. I did not try zero. I can't stand waiting around for things to happen, so I use 10 seconds for both times. The default appears to be 5 minutes. dwrite loginwindow MovementScale <integer_number> No movement occurs if this is set to 1. But it looks like the units might be approximately pixels for each change of position (the frequency of which is controlled by the next dwrite). If you put a big number here, say 200, the image moves in big jumps, but I don't know if the 200 is divided up somehow between change in x- and y-coordinates. I wouldn't worry about it much, just set it to something you like. Since my image contains readable text, I want it to scroll smoothly around, so I use the apparently minimum value, 2. The default appears to be 10. dwrite loginwindow MovementRate <real_number> The units are seconds. The image jumps by the amount above every this many seconds. The default is 0.0666 seconds. Bigger numbers mean slower motion. Since I don't like things being too jumpy or zooming around, I set this to 0.1 seconds. This makes my image ooze at a pace befitting an elderly person like me. dwrite loginwindow PowerOffDisabled YES This makes it a little harder to turn the machine off; you have to use the monitor or the minimonitor (- ) if it's set, rather than the key. dwrite loginwindow LoginHook <path/to/loginhook/executable> dwrite loginwindow LogoutHook <path/to/logouthook/executable> Pointers to the login and logout hooks, if used. It should be pointed out that some of these things (login/logout hooks, for example) are maybe more logically set where the loginwindow is invoked by the WindowServer, namely /etc/ttys. There are yet others. Here's the full list (thanks, Art): NXGetDefaultValue("loginwindow", "DebugHook") => 0x0 NXGetDefaultValue("loginwindow", "DryRun") => 0x0 NXGetDefaultValue("loginwindow", "WindowServerTimeout") => 0x0 NXRegisterDefaults("loginwindow", 0x16024) KeyMapPath: 0x12d97 "~/Library/Keyboards:/LocalLibrary/Keyboards:/NextLibrary/Keyboards" Keymap: 0x12de1 "/NextLibrary/Keyboards/USA" SwappedKeymap: 0x12e0a "No" LoginHook: 0x0 LogoutHook: 0x0 HostName: 0x0 ImageFile: 0x0 DefaultUser: 0x12e41 "me" PowerOffDisabled: 0x0 TimeToDim: 0x12e69 "2040" MoveWhenIdle: 0x12e0a "No" MovementTimeout: 0x12e8b "300.0" MovementRate: 0x12e9e "0.06666" MovementScale: 0x12eb4 "10" [Christopher J. Kane kane@cs.purdue.edu] Under NeXTSTEP 3.1, the login window has two buttons labeled "Reboot" and "Power" that allow a user to reboot and power down from the login window. In a public lab, this feature may be undesirable. The PowerOffDisabled default can be used to disable the buttons, but they are still shown in the window and push in when clicked (a bad user interface decision, IMHO). The program below patches loginwindow to eradicate the restart and power buttons. It makes the loginwindow's LoginButton class instance method initWithImage:altImage:andString: a no-op (just return nil). This patch has been applied to the machines in the NeXT lab at Purdue (like sonata.cc.purdue.edu for instance), and no adverse effects have been noted. This program must be run as root, since it writes to the file /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/loginwindow. An archive with a compiled executable has been submitted to sonata.cc.purdue.edu. /* * Patches the loginwindow.app to eradicate the restart and power * buttons from the login window. * * Christopher J. Kane (kane@cs.purdue.edu) * Released into public domain; August 13, 1993. */ #include <libc.h> #include <errno.h> void main(int argc, char *argv[]) { unsigned char patch[8] = {0x0, 0x0, 0x42, 0x80, 0x4e, 0x5e, 0x4e, 0x75}; int file = open("/usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow.app/loginwindow", O_WRONLY); if (-1==file) goto error; if (-1==lseek(file, 21170, SEEK_SET)) goto error; if (-1==write(file, patch, 8)) goto error; if (-1==close(file)) goto error; exit(0); error: fprintf(stderr, "%s: %s\n", argv[0], strerror(errno)); exit(1); } FAQ-Authors note: We strongly recommend to do a backup of the loginwindow application, because the patch alters the file directly and will most likely not work on different versions of the OS. 4.10 How does one set UNIX man pages to be viewed in nroff format with DL like the standard manual pages in NS2.x? man pages, NS2.x Beyond looking in the man pages under ixBuild, etc., what you want to do is put a few files (contents listed below file name) the .index directory: .roffArgs: -man displayCommand: tbl %s | nroff -man ixBuildOptions: -fman -Nwhatis -Ncat[1-8ln] -V Other options that people suggested for ixBuildOptions: -fman -Nwhatis -Ncat[1-8] -V /usr/local/man -fman -Nwhatis -V /usr/local/man/man* I don't think you need to explicitly name the directory in the first alternative, but you do in the second unless you want the cat* directories indexed as well. Note: Do NOT leave a trailing return after the line in ixBuildOptions; DL will barf. (I think someone said that, as shipped, the standard man .index/ixBuildOptions had this problem.) [From: Eric D. Engstrom ] Can anyone tell me what the command line for this might be under NEXTSTEP 3.0? Short answer: RTM on ixbuild(1) - specifically the parameter "-g". In addition, I'd like to inform the newsgroup of a simple hack I setup on my own machine to create a unified DL target for all UNIX Manual pages (including system, local, gnu, whatever). This was easier under 2.x because IXBuild (pre IXKit) had more hacks in it... Basically, you need to setup a directory with sym-links to the various man-page directories; For example: (397)basilisk% pwd /LocalLibrary/Documentation/ManPages (398)basilisk% ls -alg total 728 drwxrwxr-x 2 eric wheel 1024 Mar 28 18:03 ./ drwxrwxr-x 11 root wheel 1024 Mar 27 00:41 ../ -rw-r--r-- 1 eric wheel 370 Feb 27 22:01 .README -rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 872 Feb 27 17:11 .dir.tiff -rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 20 Feb 27 17:11 .displayCommand -rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 47 Feb 27 17:10 .index.iname -rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 6 Feb 27 17:10 .index.itype -rw-r--r-- 1 eric wheel 729088 Mar 28 18:44 .index.store -rw-rw-r-- 1 eric wheel 5 Feb 27 17:11 .roffArgs lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 18 Feb 27 17:53 gnu -> /usr/local/gnu/man/@ lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 14 Feb 27 17:53 local -> /usr/local/man/@ lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 9 Feb 27 17:53 news -> /news/man/@ lrwxrwxrwx 1 eric wheel 35 Feb 27 17:53 system -> /usr/man/@ Notice that I also copied all the .[a-z]* files from the /usr/man/ directory as well. Then, use ixbuild -gl to (re)build the index. If your any of the links point to directories on other devices, add "d" to "-gl". "-v" will give you verbose output (like my writing style ;-). RTM under ixbuild(1) for more info. Unfortunately, once the index is built, I've never successfully gotten DL to update it correctly. Instead I have to do it by hand using ixbuild -ogldvc (actually, I setup a cron job to reindex weekly.) If you have troubles, try removing the .index.store file and rebuilding the entire database. I've had intermittent problems with ixbuild under 3.0. 4.11 Appending a signature and addition headers to your e-mail .signature signature Mail There is a bundle for Mail to which, beside other features, allows you to add a .signature file to outgoing e-mails: EnhancedMail.bundle. This software package is available by the FTP archive sites. Here are other solutions which might serve you as well: [Carl Edman ] First create a simple text file the following content: #!/bin/sh { if test -r ${HOME}/.add-header; then cat ${HOME}/.add-header; fi cat - if test -r ${HOME}/.signature; then echo "--"; cat ${HOME}/.signature; fi }| /usr/lib/sendmail "$@" A good name for this file would be sendmail-addheader. If you want to and can install it for system-wide use put this file in e.g. /usr/lib. Otherwise your private /Unix/bin directory is also fine. Make certain that this file has execute permission. To set that, use e.g. chmod 755 /usr/lib/sendmail-addheader. Next, open up the preferences panel in Mail. Switch to the expert options. Change the Mailer option from /usr/lib/sendmail (which it should originally be) to /usr/lib/sendmail-addheader (or whatever the name of the file you created is). OK this and you should be set. From now on your file /.signature file should always be appended to all mail sent out with Mail.app. In addition if you have a file called add-header in your home-directory it should automatically be prepended to your outgoing mail. To implement a reply-to line, you would simply give it the following content: Reply-to: My Real Human Name <name@my.real.address> IMPORTANT: Make certain that you have one and exactly one newline at the end of /.add-header. Anything might break outgoing mail. Beware! BUG: The /.signature file is not added properly for NeXT mail containing attachments. The headers will still be added properly. This could be fixed but probably is more of a hassle than it is worth. [From: jbrow@radical1.radical.com (Jim Brownfield)] I have added a Terminal Service to terminal to add a signature file whenever I type "0" (command/zero), and I thought this might be of interest to people who read your FAQ. I have used this technique for over a year with no problems, and it has the advantage of working both with non-NeXT and NeXT Mail. First, you must create a file with your signature containing the characters "--" on the first line (there has been some discussion as to whether this should be "-- " ("--" followed by a blank), but my file only has the "--" as the first line. The rest of the file should contain your normal signature. If you place the file in your home directory, I recommend NOT using the filename ".signature" for this file since it may conflict with other programs (like NewsGrazer). I use the filename ".fullSignature". The file used for the signature should be ascii and not RTF to allow the file to be used for NeXT and non-NeXT mail. You can create a "Get signature" service by launching Terminal and accessing the "Terminal Services" window through the "Info/Terminal Services..." menu item. Then perform the following: 1. Create a new service by clicking on the "New" button. Change the service name to "Get signature". 2. Add the command "cat " and "0" (zero) to the "Command and Key Equivalent" entry. The "0" is obviously arbitrary, but I've found that it doesn't conflict with any of the commands I normally use. 3. De-select any items checked within the "Accept" grouping. Select the "As Input" radio button under the "Use Selection" section. 4. Change the "Execution" popup to "Run Service in the Background". Select the "Return Output" and "No Shell" radio buttons. 5. Click the "Save" button. Now, when you type "0" (actually, from any application), your signature will be added wherever your cursor is located (be careful not to have text selected as it will replace the selected text with your signature). I have found this to be very convenient for adding my .sig to outgoing mail. 4.12 How can I quickly find a file if I don't know its directory? searching, files find The Unix find command on the NeXT has the capability of quickly searching a database of all the files. This database is located in /etc/find.codes and has to be generated periodically. You can automatically generate this database, say twice a week at 3:15 a.m., by adding this line to your file /etc/crontab.local (you might have to create this file). 15 03 * * 2,5 root /usr/lib/find/updatedb > /usr/adm/updatedb.err After this has run, you can quickly find any file from a terminal by typing find where is a part of the file name you want (it is case-sensitive). [Carl Edman ] adds: Find still works under 3.0, but now has to match the entire filename (including the path) for a match to be recognized i.e. where under 2.x you would have find foobar, under 3.0 you have find '*foobar*' (The ' are necessary to prevent the shell from expanding the wildcards itself). [From: Geert Jan van Oldenborgh ] I find the following script in /usr/local/bin very handy to bring back the behavior that God Intended find to have: #!/bin/csh if ( $#argv == 1 ) then /usr/bin/find \*$1\* else set noglob /usr/bin/find $argv[1-] unset noglob endif 4.13 Mail.app suddenly stopped working! Mail, doesn't start When I double-click the Mail.app icon it loads and seems to start but then just terminates. How can I fix this ? Usually the problem is caused by Mail.app being terminated with extreme prejudice such as by a power outage or kill -9. Under those circumstances Mail.app may leave a lock file in your active mailbox. Due to a bug 3.0 Mail.app doesn't ask for permission to override this lock when started up again but just dies. Open a shell and look in /Mailboxes/Active.mbox. If this directory contains a file called .lock you have found the culprit. You can safely remove this file. 4.14 Recycler doesn't work anymore?! Recycler For some reason, after moving my home directory, my recycler no longer works? [From: eric%basilisk@src.honeywell.com (Eric D. Engstrom)] Basically, when you dump a file in the recycler, the workspace manager (attempts) to move it to one of the following locations: (note: no order implied here, because I'm unsure of the actual order used) - $HOME/.NeXT/.NextTrash (Should always exist; unsure what happens if it doesn't) - /tmp/.NextTrash_$USER Automatically created if non-existent) - $MNT-POINT/.NextTrash/$USER (.NextTrash NOT automatically created if non-existent) Also, the workspace requires that the trash directory into which it puts the to-be-deleted file be on the same disk partition that the file originally came from (for speed, I assume). Also, an example of the permissions for the external disk .NextTrash directory (which is not automatically created) should be : ls -aldg /private/mnt2/local/.NextTrash drwxrwxrwt [...] /private/mnt2/local/.NextTrash/ Note: /private/mnt2/local is the mount point. Do chmod 1777 .NextTrash to get the permissions right. Thus, if you moved your home directory from one partition to another, the one you left may not have a "recycler-repository" to use. 4.15 How to hear sound from CDPlayer.app thought NEXTSTEP system? digital audio CDPlayer To hear sound, the following info is important. [Carl Edman ] Hearing the sound directly on the NeXT can be done with the play3401 program from the archives if you have a Toshiba 3401 series drive. Theoretically this can also be done with NEC [78]4-1s and Apple CD 300s, though I know of no NeXT program which supports them. Most other drives (including the NeXT CD-ROM) just don't have the hardware to do it. There is another player available: CD_evil, which is based on play3401 but offers a GUI. FAQ-Authors note: On Intel system it's very easy: just connect the CD-Audio out (internal) to your CD-in of the soundcard (internal). Anyway there are problems with different drives. E.g. we know, that the Toshiba, Sony and Nec drives currently use the same instruction set to access audio data. So be aware that there are drives which simply can't be accessed through CDPlayer. 4.16 How do I decompress a file with the extension .compressed? .compressed compress uncompress gnutar tar gzip gunzip Do this with the following methods. [From: sanguish@digifix.com] .compressed files have been compressed in the Workspace Manager. Basically, they are just .tar.Z files. Even single files are tarred as well as compressed. There are several methods of decompressing these files. 1. They can be decompressed by selecting them in the Workspace, and Selecting uncompress from the file menu. 2. They can be decompressed by selecting them in the Workspace, and bringing up the Workspace Inspector. (You can double click to get there faster) 3. You can rename them to be .tar.Z and handle them the way you do them. FAQ-Authors note: use uncompress to access the .Z files and/or gunzip to access .z/.gz files. Use tar to access .tar files. You might also you gnutar to access both together, e.g. to access a .tar.gz at once. Read the man pages for more information. 4.17 How do I change the Workspace compression app? compress gzip gunzip dwrites Change it with the given method. [Stephen Peters ] You can change the tools that the Workspace uses to create and read its .compressed files by issuing the following commands in a terminal window: dwrite Workspace compress /usr/bin/gzip dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip dwrite Workspace AlwaysTarForCompress YES [Reuven M. Lerner reuven@the-tech.mit.edu] This is generally a good thing, except that people might follow your advice and then try to send NeXTmail to someone who is still using compress/uncompress. Changing Workspace/uncompress to gunzip isn't a problem, since it uncompresses all sorts of files, but people should be very careful not to change Workspace/compress to gzip unless they will only be dealing with other gzip-equipped users. 4.18 console: loginwindow: netinfo problem - No such directory. netinfo problem, /keyboard directory is missing. It's benign... but annoying. niutil -create . /keyboard Fixed in 2.1 and up. 4.19 Root login not possible on client machine root login A number of people have complained about the situation where root can log onto the configuration server, but not its clients. Login proceeds normally, then a window with "Workspace error Internal error (signal 10)" pops up. Other users are not affected. This scenario occurs with NetBooted clients that are not permitted root access to / via the server's /etc/exports file, either via an explicit root= option or (the most heinous) anon=0. For security reasons many sites will NOT want to permit such access. Note that what you're up against is only a Workspace Manager misfeature; there's no problem logging in as root on the real UNIX console, or logging in as a non-root user and then using "su" to obtain root privileges. Root access is needed to: * Log in a root Workspace. * Perform BuildDisk on a client. * Run the GuidedTour demo for the first time subsequent invocations will not autologin, but they will run just fine if you log in as NextTour (no password). It is not required to perform updates on the local NetInfo database, for any normal user operations, nor to run programs requiring root access on the server using -NXHost. 4.20 How to boot NEXTSTEP from the second (higher SCSI ID) HD? Boot, from higher SCSI ID Boot, from second drive Use the following command. bsd(1,0,0) -a which will then ask you for the drive to use as the root disk, or still easier, bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1 In the boot command the name of the bootfile can be replaced by '-'. This is very useful as the length of the bootcommand which can be stored in the permanent memory is very limited (on NeXT machines only). So the only way to eg. increase the number of buffers permanently to 128 in the boot command is to use the following boot command: sd- nbu=128 (sdmach nbu=128 would have been too long). 4.21 How to make swapfile shrink to the normal size? swapfile The swapfile is located in /private/vm. The only current way to make it shrink is to reboot the machine. See the man pages for swaptab for more information. Note, that putting a space after the comma in /etc/swaptab (lowat=,hiwat=) makes swapon ignore the hiwat entry. There is a short trick which seems to work for several people: type exit in the login panel. This will exit the window server and restart it immediatly. If you are lucky, this will reclaim some space. 4.22 Does netinfo work between machines running NEXTSTEP 2.x and 3.x? netinfo Yes. 4.23 Why does the console user "own" the external disk filesystem? filesystem, external You need an entry in /etc/fstab so the disk will be mounted at boot time, rather than being "automounted" when somebody logs in. Automounted disks are owned by whoever logged in, fstab-mounted disks are owned by root. Something like this: /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd1a /Disk 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 (assuming the external disk is to be mounted as /Disk) fstab should be niloaded into the Netinfo database if it contains any NFS mounts. 4.24 How to limit coredump sizes? coredump, size limit Limit it by the following command. This will work for apps running from a shell. limit coredumpsize 0 If your dock or workspace apps are dumping core, there's also: dwrite Workspace CoreLimit <bytesize> 4.25 What is the maximum value of nbuf that I can specify on bootup? buffers, ROM I know the ROM monitor only allows twelve characters, but I use something like this: bsd sdmach nbuf=xxx (NeXT machines only) Enter the hardware monitor. Hit 'p' to adjust the configuration parameters. It will respond: Boot command: ? Enter sd- nbu=xxx, where xxx is a number less than 256. 4.26 How can I change the mouse pointer shape and color? Maybe this could point you into the right direction. Pipe it to pft and see what happens.... %!PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-2.0 %%BoundingBox: 0 0 16 16 %%EndComments 0 0 16 16 Retained window dup windowdeviceround gsave 16 16 scale 16 16 4 [16 0 0 -16 0 16] {< ffffffff00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ffff0d0fffff0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ffff0d0f0d0fffff000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ffff0d0ffd0f0d0fffff00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 fffffd0ffd0ffd0ffd0fffff0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 fffffd0ff50ff50ff50ffd0fffff000000000000000000000000000000000000 fffff50ff50ff50ff50ff50ff50fffff00000000000000000000000000000000 fffff50fd00fd00fd00fd00fd00f908fffff0000000000000000000000000000 ffffd00fd00fd00fd00fd00fd00f908f908fffff000000000000000000000000 ffffd00fd00fd00f908f908fffffffffffffffffffff00000000000000000000 ffff908f908fffff00ff00ffffff000000000000000000000000000000000000 ffff908fffff0000ffff00ff00ffffff00000000000000000000000000000000 ffffffff00000000ffff00ff00ffffff00000000000000000000000000000000 ffff0000000000000000ffff00ff00ffffff0000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000ffff00ff00ffffff0000000000000000000000000000 000000000000000000000000ffffffff00000000000000000000000000000000 >} false 3 alphaimage grestore gstate nextdict /_NXSharedGrayAlpha get NX_TwelveBitRGB 1 index setwindowdepthlimit windowdeviceround 0 0 16 16 5 4 roll 0 32 Copy composite nulldevice termwindow Maybe somebody wants to write some kind of "pointer editor"? There is also a commercial application named 'MouseMagic' which handles this and custom acceleration modes. 4.27 How do I customize BuildDisk to create a bootable disk of my own configuration? BuildDisk, customization The BuildDisk application is extremely limited in terms of the types of disks configuration it knows how to build. Essentially it "knows" about swapdisks, optical disks, 330 and 660 MB SCSI disks. If you wish to do custom configurations you should look at existing BLD script files in /etc/BLD.* There is a script which you can use to specify which BLD script you are using, which disktab entry, and other useful parameters in /usr/etc/builddisk Some things to note: * the fstab installed on the target disk is specified in the newclient command in the BLD script. standard fstabs are extracted from /usr/template/client/fstab.* * the BLD scripts do not put down a new boot block on the scsi disk, you may want to install one by hand using the /usr/etc/disk program. * some disks boot fine but NeXTstep comes up with a blank window and no login window. This is due sometimes to forgetting to install an accessible /NextLibrary/{Fonts,Sounds}. In general you need quite a lot of things to make a bootable disk. You can build a minimally usable bootable floppy (for crash recovery purposes). There is a modified version of builddisk (to make it support building floppies, a minimal change) and a BLD script to build the boot floppy available at cs.orst.edu in next/sources/Bootfloppy.tar.Z. (I put this together in response to several requests.) A newer version of Bootfloppy for 2.1 is on the archives as next/sources/util/Bootfloppy2.1.tar.Z. Also available from the archives is BootFloopy 3.x (for --- you guessed it --- NEXTSTEP 3.x). I might also add that one can improve on disk usage while enhancing functionality. BuildDisk (which is used by the various BootFloppy scripts) just copies the standard binaries for ls, mv, cp aso. from /bin. These binaries are statically linked as shipped by NeXT which makes them huge. (e.g. /bin/ls is 106496 bytes large. /usr/local/bin/gls with more features is just 16268 bytes). If you replace these binaries by the BSD or GNU equivalents you can save several hundred kBytes on your boot floppy. This extra diskspace can be used for tar, dump and more tools which makes the boot floppy actually usable. Tested. 4.28 Are there any more dwrites useful for the workspace, ...? dwrite, misc There a lot of dwrite useful for you. (self explanatory) dwrite Workspace compress /usr/bin/gzip dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip dwrite Workspace AlwaysTarForCompress Yes dwrite Workspace DockOrginX (some number) dwrite Workspace DockOrginY (some number) dwrite Workspace DockOffsetX -1057 (leftmost) dwrite Workspace DockOnTop (0 or 1 for true or false) dwrite appname NXCMYKAdjust YES dwrite Preferences 24HourClock yes 4.29 What is the @LongLink message from gnutar all about? @LongLink gnutar Because gnutar tries to be somewhat compatible to the old tar format, it can't store pathnames longer than 100 chars. In order to store files with longer names, it generates a special file entry containing just the longer filename. These are the long links you see. Nothing to worry about. 4.30 What stands the file .place3_0.wmd for? .place3_0.wmd The Workspace uses it to record the window attributes (sort order, view type, icon positions and so on) Switching the 'UNIX Expert' flag in UNIX Preferences panel off hides all files which start by '.'. 4.31 How to create transparent icons with IconBuilder IconBuilder icon, transparent If you are repainting an icon on the filesystem e.g. .dir.tiff make a copy and remove it first. Then reload the directory (the default icon gets shown). This is needed because the system caches icons. Now here comes how to create transparent backgrounds using IconBuilder: * Select Format->Document Layout (or New document layout) * 'Has alpha' must be checkedus * Open the color inspector * UNcheck 'paint in overlay mode' * Choose any color (I took white) * Set Opacity to 0 * Use Paintbucket to fill the whole icon * Now set Opacity back to 100 * Draw the icon What 'Paint in overlay mode… does, is that when checked, it will use both the alpha (opacity) of the existing pixel and the alpha selected in the color inspector and combine both into a new color. When unchecked the existing pixel will just be replaced with one using color and alpha as selected in the inspector. 4.32 How to access the MAC format of a mixed DOS/MAC CD-ROM Mac DOS CD-ROM Some CD-ROMs are using multiple fileformats to adress more people. This is done by putting two filesystems on the disk. With NEXTSTEP you are able to acess both. But what to do if the Workspace only shows you the DOS side of a disk, while the Mac side is often more convenient (due to e.g. long filenames). The solution is to change the priority the system is searching for a usable filesystem. You need to rearange the filesystems in /usr/filesystems to fit your needs. Here is how: * ls -lR /usr/filesystems shows the actual searching queue. * mv /usr/filesystems /tmp/filesystems to backup things * mkdir /usr/filesystems recreate the directory. * cp -p -r /tmp/filesystems/xx /usr/filesystems copy the filesystems in order of searching back to the default location. * chmod 4755 /usr/filesystems/xx.fs/xx.util reset SUID mode * reset the links in /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs/. 4.33 Is there a PPP for NEXTSTEP PPP There is a commercial PPP and a public domain PPP implementation. For the public domain PPP there is an additional FAQ available at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ The public domain PPP is based on the PPP-2.2 distribution. This distribution offers several enhancements over ppp-2.1.2. Especially noteworty is that it implements BSD packet compression. Using packet compression can lead to higher throughput than you get using compressing modems. The port works on Motorola, Intel (both Mux and NeXT supplied serial drivers), and HP systems running OS 3.2 and 3.3. It also works in conjunction with Black and White's NXFAX software. You may also want to join the mailing list for PPP. This will keep you informed of new releases and will provide an arena for discussing problems with the NeXT specific PPP port. To add yourself to the list (or for any other administrative requests), send an email message to: listproc@listproc.thoughtport.com requesting you be placed on the list. Make sure to include your proper return email address. To send mail to all the participants on the list, address your messages to: nextppp@listproc.thoughtport.com 5 BLACK (NEXT) HARDWARE 5.1 What disk drives will work with the NeXT? disk drives There are some situations in which there are problems. Here is a short list which might help you in your disk drive quest: * These drives don't work with NeXT hardware: FUJITSU 2684SAU, SEAGATE ST51080N, IBM IB06H8891 * The SCSI driver for NeXT hardware only accepts asynchronous data transfer. Although every new SCSI-2 drive should support this mode, this isn't true for certain drives. Also sometimes there is a hardware switch (a little jumper on the drive) which switches between synchronous and asynchronous mode. You definitly can only use asynchronous disks! * There are also problems with sync negotiation on NeXT hardware. In general there should be another jumper to toggle this are you might change this with an SCSI utility. There are also problems with the tagged command queuing option. Anyway all these problem can be solved. Most SCSI disk drives will work without modifying /etc/disktab. There are problems with the installation of boot blocks and badly formed fstab generated by BuildDisk of NEXTSTEP 2.0. A disk connected to the NeXT will need to have a NeXT specific label written to it before it can be properly recognized by the system. If you get an error message "Invalid Label..." this indicates that the drive was successfully seen by the NeXT machine but it does not have the proper label, to install a label use the /usr/etc/disk program on the raw disk device that the system assigned to the device and use the label command to write the label onto the disk. [how the NeXT assigns disk devices is explained in the N&SA manual] NEXTSTEP releases 2.0 and up provide a low level disk formatter, sdform, which does not offer much flexibility, but gets the job done. Most drives are already formatted at the factory. You might look for the utility sdformat on the FTP sites as well, which overcomes some problems of sdform supplied by NeXT. 5.2 Will a 68030 NeXT Computer run NEXTSTEP 3.3? NS3.3 and 68030 Yes, but note that NeXTstep 3.3 is be optimized for the 68040 CPUs. NeXTstep 1.0 and 2.x were optimized for the 68030 CPU, 68882 FPU machines. 5.3 How do I configure my HP 660 to boot properly? HP 660, boot boot, HP 660 It has been reported that HP drives fail to autoboot on power on or while other devices are on the scsi bus. The problem seems to be with drives configured to spin-up automatically on power on do not get recognized at boot time. To remedy this problem reliably with HP 660Mb (HP97548) and 1Gbyte (HP 97549) drives remove the auto spinup jumper on the back of the drive. Looking at the disk from the back with the power connector on the lower left, it is the sixth jumper. The official fix was an EPROM change to the HP drive from HP. The HP drives took too long to wait up, so the system wasn't happy with the other drives coming ready first especially when the HP was suppose to be the boot device. (The EPROM is no longer available from NeXT). 5.4 What is the procedure for installing a Fujitsu M2263SA/SB SCSI Disk as the NeXT Boot Disk? Fujitsu M2263SA/SB See Izumi Ohzawa's note in /pub/next/docs/fujitsu.recipe available via anonymous ftp from sonata.cc.purdue.edu. 5.5 How to mount a corrupted OD that won't automount? OD, corrupt OD, mount If you can't automount an OD, and you can't fix it, you can still manually mount it. Log in as root. Type /usr/etc/mount /dev/od0a /FoO. It will ask you to insert the disk. Insert it. It is mounted. This method WILL mount a corrupted OD so you can read its contents. Since it is corrupted, it is not recommended to write to it. You should copy the important files to something else, then reformat it. 5.6 What non-NeXT CD Players that work with a NeXT? CD-ROM, NeXT A USENET survey summary: Apple CD-150 PLI 1035N for NeXT SUN CD-ROM drive (Sony CDU-8012, Rev. 3.1a) NEC 73M and 74 (transfer rates > of 300 KB/sec.) NEC 84 S NEC 4xi NEC 6x speed Apple CD-SC (Sony 541-22 mechanism) Apple CD-300 Apple CD-300+ Chinon CDS-431 (with new drivers) Eclipse CD-ROM from Microtech Toshiba 3201 Toshiba 3301 Toshiba 3401 Toshiba 3501 Toshiba TXM3301E1 Toshiba XM-2200A external Toshiba XM3601 Plextor Quadspeed Plextor PX-63CS (6xspeed) DENON DRD-253 external (data only, no music) HP's LaserROM drive (Toshiba XM-3301TA drive in HP's box) Texel 3024 (required a firmware upgrade to version was 1.11) As with all SCSI devices, they just work. Some drives only get problems with their audio support with CD-Player (due to not standardized SCSI audio commands, but this isn't a NeXT specific problem!) In contrary the question should be: are there SCSI CD-ROMs which don't work together with NEXTSTEP? 5.7 What are some other sources of toner cartridges and trays for the NeXT laser printer? toner, NeXT printer The toner cartridge is a standard EP-S cartridge, the same that fits the HP LaserJet III and some other printers. Any HP LaserJet II or III will fit. HPLJ4mSI cartridges do NOT fit. Any HP LJII or LJIII paper tray will fit. IIISI and 4 trays will not. Confused? Read again :-) 5.8 What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with a NeXT? printers, on NeXT If you plan to connect an HP LaserJet (II, IIP, III, etc.) you need to make a special cable in order for the NeXT 040 and HP to get the hardware handshaking correct. This is true for whatever version of the OS you are running. NeXT 68040 to HP LaserJet III Cable (not a Null-modem cable): Mini-Din HP DB-25 1 (DTR) nc 2 (DCD) 4 (RTS) 3 (TXD) 3 (RXD) 4 (GND) 7 (GND) 5 (RXD) 2 (TXD) 6 (RTS) 5 (CTS) 7 (RTXC) nc 8 (CTS) 20 (DTR) You may want to use hardware flow control for reliability (ie /dev/ttyfa). If you have problems with other printers, check the cable pinouts in the printer's manual against the one recommended in the zs man-page! Refer to Chapter 13 in Network and System Administration. 5.9 What can I do to prevent my NeXT printer from running all the time? printer, turning off The NeXT 400dpi printer powers up every time you boot up when the print daemon is started (/usr/lib/NextPrinter/npd in /etc/rc). Apart from not running the daemon at boot time (commenting it out and having to run it by hand later), you can add the following lines to /etc/rc.local: if [ -f /usr/etc/nppower ]; then sleep 3 /usr/etc/nppower off (echo 'powering off NeXTprinter') >/dev/console fi Once you queue a print job the printer daemon will automatically power up the NeXT printer for you. The printer daemon will not automatically power off the machine after a print job, you will need to turn off the printer by typing /usr/etc/nppower off. 5.10 What type of microphones will work with the NeXT? microphone, NeXT Some NeXT owners use the RadioShack (Realistic) Tie Clip Microphone ($19.95) cat 33-1052. NeXT Computer, Inc. uses the "Sony Electret Condenser Microphone ECM-K7" in-house (available for $60). Some use Sony Tie-Clip microphone, #ECM-144, which costs around $40. Others have successfully used a WalMart brand microphone (available for $6). 5.11 How do I connect a modem to the NeXT? modem, on NeXT Previously, we suggested that people use Mac modem cables; however, it has come to our attention that there is no one standard Mac modem cable. Since correct modem operation on a NeXT depends upon a correctly wired modem cable, buying a Mac cable is not a good idea. Some Mac cables do not allow dial-in and no Mac cable allows the use of hardware flow control. For these reasons, we are recommending that only cables that meet NeXT specifications be used. [however, if you have a Mac modem cable lying around and don't care about dial-in or hardware flow control, then by all means....] These cables are available commercially from any store, how still sells NeXT stuff, and from Computer Cables and Devices, or can be custom built. Note that no off- the-shelf Mac cable will allow hardware flow control. It is however possible to make a such a cable from an Imagewriter II cable by replacing one of the mini-8 ends with a DB-25 connector. Hardware flow control is absolutely essential for all serial port connections with speeds of 9600 bps and above. Make certain that you cable supports it, your modem is configured to use it and you are using the hardware flowcontrol devices /dev/cuf[ab], /dev/ttydf[ab] and /dev/ttyf[ab], respectively. Most people use tip or kermit to control the modem. SLIP and/or UUCP may also be used (but are more complicated to set up and require the remote machine to also have SLIP and/or UUCP (respectively)). A version of the DOS-program pcomm can be found on ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de The 2.0 Network and System Administration Manual, which is available in hard-copy (shipped with each machine) contains an extensive description of how to use modems with the NeXT machine. Additionally NeXT in their TechSupportNotes series called SerialPortDoc.wn and UUCP for 1.0/1.0a systems . This document is available from most FTP sites that carry NextAnswers. Also, try to obtain the about.modem.Z file by Mark Adler in the pub/next/lore directory on sonata.cc.purdue.edu 5.12 Are there any alternative sources for the SCSI-II to SCSI-I cable required to attach external SCSI devices to the 040 NeXTs? SCSI cable to NeXT Yes. This cable is the same as the one used by Sun SparcStations and DecStation 5000's (but not DecStation 3100's which use 68-pin micro rather than the 50pin micro connector used on NeXT 040, Suns and DecStation 5000). The implication that a Sun SparcStation cable can be used with NeXT peripherals is generally false. NeXT themselves, and DEC, and nearly everyone else who makes SCSI peripherals, puts Telco-50 (centronics) connectors on their devices. Sun in their infinite wisdom uses DD50 which are quite different. Telco-50 is an approved connector type in the SCSI spec. Probably the original point was that the 50-pin microSCSI on the NeXT and Sun and some DecStations was different from the 68-pin microSCSI on the DecStation 5000. But this does not address the other end of the cable. 5.13 What fax modems will work with the NeXT? fax modem, on NeXT Most available modems of today, don't work for with the general fax driver available with NEXTSTEP. In this case you need to perchuse a commercial solution: 'NXFax'. There are demos available. The following information is pretty much old, and might probably be obsolete now: The following fax modems are currently available for the NeXT Computer: Manufacturer, Model Supplier, Type DoveFax for NeXT, Dove Computer, Class 1 HSD FaxMaster, HSD Microcomputer, Class 2* mix fax, i·link GmbH, Class 2** SupraFAXModem V.32bis, Supra Corp., Class 2 (requires DFax driver or NXFax driver) ZyXEL U-1496E/E+/S/S+, ZyXEL USA, Class 2 (requires NXFax driver) Telebit T3000 with fax option Telebit WorldBlazer with fax option (requires NXFax driver) Neuron 1414/1414+ with ZyXEL ROM upgrade (requires NXFax driver) (Neuron 1414 and Neuron 1414+ modems are relabelled ZyXEL modems. Contact ZyXEL USA for ROM upgrades. Neuron modems with 512K ROMs should upgrade their ROMs and ROM sockets to 1 Mb ROMs. People with 1Mb ROMs should just order the new ROMs.) (*) Note that the Class 2 is not yet approved; it is still out for ballot, after having failed in an October 1990 round. The Abaton InterFax 24/96 NX driver supports Class 2 as it was in that draft; there are expected to be very few changes prior to approval. (**) Note that mix fax works with both the October 1990 and October 1991 draft versions of Class 2, especially with the NeXT supplied Class 2 modem driver. Upgrading to an approved version of Class 2 would be a matter of just a software update (holds true for any forthcoming (class 3?) standard, for that matter). In order to use a fax modem with the NeXT Computer, a NeXT compatible fax driver must be available to operate the modem. Modem control procedures may be proprietary or conform to one of the following EIA/TIA standards: Class 1: CCITT T.30 session management and CCITT T.4 image data handling are controlled by the driver. Class 2*: CCITT T.30 session management and image data transport are handled by the modem. CCITT T.4 image data preparation and interpretation are controlled by the driver. Release 2.0 of the NeXT system software includes a Class 2 modem driver which will work with any fax modem which meets the EIA/TIA Asynchronous Facsimile Control standard. Other fax modems must supply a NeXT compatible driver. Note that there's a small bug in 2.0 (fixed in 2.1): a symbolic link is missing for the file Class2_Fax_Modem_Driver in /usr/lib/NextPrinter. The simple fix: create the link; it should reference Interfax_Fax_Modem_Driver, also in the /usr/lib/NextPrinter directory. An alternative workaround for Class 2, especially useful for novices: just use InterFax as the modem type in PrintManager, rather than Class 2*. After installing a fax modem using PrintManager one must repeat setting things in the Fax Options panel in order for them to be stored correctly. In particular, these include the Rings to Answer and Number of Times to Retry. This affects all fax modems being installed. If one uses illegal characters in the Modems Number field in the Fax Options when configuring an InterFax modem then the modem will not answer the phone. Legal characters are digits, spaces, and plus signs. This does not affect the Dove modem. Modems from the german vendor Dr. Neuhaus also work with the internal Fax-Driver. But only the FURY-series does. 5.14 How may I attach more than two serial ports to the NeXT? serial port, >2 on NeXT TTYDSP From Yrrid converts the DSP port into an additional serial port. Yrrid Incorporated 507 Monroe St. Chapel Hill, NC 27516 Voice: 919-968-7858 Fax: 919-968-7856 E-mail: yrrid@world.std.com Unitnet has a device, the SLAT, that will connect to the scsi bus. Uninet Peripherals, Inc. Voice: 714-263-4222 Fax: 714-263-4299 Central Data Corporation makes the scsiTerminal Server family of products. Drivers for NextStep 3.0 and 3.1 are available for both the 68K-based and Intel-based platforms. The products available for NeXT include: Product DESCRIPTION ST-1002+ 2 serial, 1 parallel SP-1003 3 parallel ST-1008+ 8 serial, 1 parallel ST-1016 16 serial You can also mix and match multiple units. Phone: 217/359-8010 Toll-free: 800/482-0315 FAX: 217-359-6904 Email: info@cd.com support@cd.com sales@cd.com Also, one can use an IP terminal server. In a non-Internet environment, inexpensive terminal servers, which don't control access to the network securely, can be used. If your network is an Internet subnet, you must use a terminal server that controls either: (1) who can log into the terminal server, or (2) which machines the terminal server will access. These tend to be more expensive (around $250/port, but in 8-port increments), but it may be quite economical means of sharing ports among many NeXTs (or other computers) on the network. Particularly if one has a NeXT network, an Ethernet terminal server may be the way to go. One that supports Linemode Telnet (such as the Xylogics Annex III) will offer the best performance. 5.15 What is the best and/or cheapest way to connect a NeXT to a thick Ethernet? Ethernet, thick There are many possible solutions. For example, here are three: * The University of Waterloo (Audio Research Group) uses an old door-stop PC XT clone with two Western Digital cards (WD8003E Ethercard Plus, $250 CDN each; you should be able to get them for under $200 (US$)) running Vance Morrison's PCRoute (available from accuvax.nwu.edu). You will also need a thickwire transceiver and a drop cable (about $300). In addition, you will need Internet addresses for the NeXT and both PC Ethernet cards (and a subnet address). The documentation for PCRoute contains quite a bit of information on the performance of this setup. This solution requires two subnets. There is another program called PCbridge that allows the machines on the thin and thick wires to be part of the same subnet. This product also does packet filtering, so that packets destined to machines on the same side of the net do not cross over. * Cabletron sells a MR-2000C Singleport Repeater for $695 that does exactly what you need minus drop cable and transceiver. Their number is (408) 441-9900. * The march 1992 INMAC networking and connectivity products catalog lists thicknet to thinnet converters. Product number Z903071 price $445. Claims full ieee 802.3 compatibility and diagnostic LED's. * NuData (908)-842-5757 (USA) sells AUI10 base-T boxes for about $149. 5.16 How can I connect my NeXT to the telephone line and use it like an answering Machine? answering machine A company that is selling both hardware and software to allow you to do this: SES Computing 13206 Jenner Lane Austin, Texas 78729 Voice: (512) 219-9468 (Demo system number) i.link, a european company, has a combined data/fax modem and telephone answering machine. It uses the DSP port and is implemented mainly in software on the DSP with a little bit of hardware to interface to the phone line. i.link GmbH Nollendorfstrasse 11-12 D-1000 Berlin 30 Germany Tel: +49 30 216 20 48 Fax: +49 30 215 82 74 E-mail: info@ilink.de 5.17 What color monitors can I use with the Color NeXT machines? monitor, color The important specs for the color monitor are: Horz Scan Rate: 61 KHz Vertical Scan Rate: 68 Hz Resolution: 1280x1024 (NeXT uses 1120x832) NON-INTERLACED Displays may require alignment to adjust for the scan rate of NeXT machines. The Nanao T560i 17" color display has been used with NeXTstation Color machines, and seems to work well. Some larger NEC displays have also worked. 5.18 Where can I get 13W3 to BNC adapters to connect third party color monitors? 13W3 to BNC BNC to 13W3 You can get them from:NeXT/Bell Atlantic: part number S4025. NuData in New Jersey carries 13W3 female to 4 BNC male connectors. The price is about $100. NuData Voice: 908-842-5757 DISCLAIMER: I take no responsibility for the following. If you can source the bits yourself here's how it's built. 1 female 13W3 connector 3 Male BNC connectors 3 mini coax ie. the pins to the coaxial are male and the regular pins are female. Looks like this. . o o o o o . . 13W3 FEMALE A1 o o o o o A2 A3 | | | | | | | | | Red Green Blue 3 BNC's That's the coax part. The outer shielding of the coax's are grounded on both pin 10 and the case. 5.19 How may I attach Centronics or 16 bit wide parallel ports to the NeXT? centronics, NeXT parallel port, NeXT Uninet has devices, the SLAT-2 and the SLAT-DRV11, that will connect to the scsi bus. Uninet Peripherals, Inc. Voice: 714-263-4222 Fax: 714-263-4299 zardoz!sales@ics.uci.edu or uunet!ucivax!zardoz!sales 5.20 Why does an unused serial port consume cpu? serial port, cpu power usage Perhaps you've got a (probably fairly long) unshielded serial cable attached to it, with either nothing at the other end or a powered-off device at the other end. EE's call this an antenna. It's probably picking up most of the radio stations in your area, which the serial chip is interpreting as a continuous stream of garbage bytes, which it feeds to getty, which tries to interpret them as login attempts. How do you avoid this problem? * leave the device at the other end switched on (even when it's not transmitting, it will assert a voltage that overrides the noise) * unplug the cable from the next when you're not using it * use 'kill -STOP' & 'kill -CONT' to stop and resume the getty process as needed * buy an adequately shielded serial cable 5.21 How to adjust MegaPixel Display brightness and focus? brightness, MegaPixel focus, MegaPixel Adjust it using the following information. From: Charles William Swiger I have adjusted several monitors with no problems, but make sure you know what you are doing before opening anything. I expressly disclaim responsibility for any ill results that may occur. In order to adjust NeXT's MegaPixel display (called 'the monitor' hereafter), you'll need (a) the NeXTtool (or a 3mm Allen wrench), (b) a plastic adjustment tool (preferred) or a thin bladed screwdriver, and possibly (c) a Phillips-head screwdriver. (NB: A similar procedure will work for color monitors, but you should either know what you're doing or you'll probably be better off letting a pro deal with it.) Turn off the computer. Disconnect all cables to the monitor. Look at the back of the monitor. There will be 4 screws there; use the NeXTtool (or Allen wrench) to remove them. Remove the plastic back of the monitor and put it out of your way. Reconnect the cables and turn the computer back on. As the machine powers up, examine the back of the monitor. You'll see a metallic box (usually silver, though some are black) surrounding the monitor's vitals. This protects you against the dangerous voltages inside, and also insulates the monitor from electromagnetic noise. On the back of this box are several holes for performing adjustments. There are two focus controls (labeled 'focus' and 'dynamic focus'), a brightness control (labeled 'brightness' or possibly 'black level') and several others that adjust various things like screen size and position. Depending on the exact placement of the controls on the circuit board of your specific monitor, some of these controls may be difficult (or impossible) to adjust from the back. If this is the case, I will describe what's necessary below. Otherwise, adjust the appropriate controls using either an adjustment tool or a screwdriver. Be warned that a screwdriver probably will cause some interesting video effects when it enters the case. Ignore this the best you can, or find a plastic adjustment tool, which is what you *really* should be using anyway. Using a flashlight will help you see into the hole so that you can align the business end of the tool correctly. Focus and position controls are fairly obvious. Adjust them slowly until you're happy with the results. Don't muck with anything you don't need to; the factory settings are usually pretty decent. To correctly adjust the brightness, follow this procedure: Turn the brightness of the monitor all the way down using the keyboard. Adjust the brightness control on the back of the monitor until a barely noticeable picture forms. Then turn the brightness down a little so this picture disappears completely. Check that you can get adequate brightness by using the keyboard to brighten the screen. If the display isn't bright enough, adjust the brightness control on the rear of the monitor high enough so that the monitor display is adequate. Note that you won't be able to dim the screen completely from the keyboard...sorry. Once you're finished, shut down the computer, take off the cables, reattach the back of the monitor, and reconnect the cables. You're done. If the control you need to adjust proves to be difficult, you may need to enter the metal case. This happened on one monitor's focus control and another's brightness. WARNING: THE VOLTAGES INSIDE THE MONITOR'S CASE ARE VERY DANGEROUS, EVEN WHEN THE MONITOR IS OFF. BE VERY CAREFUL, OR YOU CAN SERIOUSLY INJURE OR EVEN KILL YOURSELF. DO NOT PERFORM THE NEXT INSTRUCTIONS UNLESS YOU ARE CONFIDENT THAT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. You'll have to power off the computer again, and disconnect the cables. Looking at the monitor from the back, notice a section of metallic shielding on the right side of the metal box that extends to the picture tube. This is where the flyback transformer is connected. It shields a wire that is charged to about 25,000 V. WARNING: DO NOT TOUCH THIS WIRE, IT CAN SHOCK YOU THROUGH ITS INSULATION. Being very careful of this, remove the metal case by unscrewing the Philip's head screws that hold the case on. Don't touch the screws that hold the picture tube into the front of the monitor's case. Once you've gotten the metal box off, reconnect the cables. Figure out what control you're going to adjust, and make sure that you can do so without touching anything else inside. Again, *watch out* for the wire that connects to the picture tube on the right side. Power up the computer. I recommend that you use only one hand to make the adjustment, and that your other hand be placed in your pocket (or similar equivalent, if you're wearing clothes lacking pockets). This precaution reduces the chances that you'll make a short circuit between one hand, your heart, and the other hand --- a good idea. Perform the necessary adjustment(s), being very careful not to touch anything inside. Then shut down and reassemble the monitor, following the directions given above. Hopefully, these instructions will prove useful. Once again, please be very careful...I don't want your death and/or injury on my conscience (or a lawsuit, for that matter, either :-) 5.22 I want to emulate a macintosh, how? MacIntosh, emulation emulation, MacIntosh There is a nice way to run macintosh-software on your original black hardware. It works fine with dual-headed cubes and is optimized for the Apple OS - Version 7.5. To get further information about daydream, please contact: QUIX Computerware AG 011-41-41-440-88-28 9 hour differential Luzernerstr.10 6030 Ebikon Switzerland Next software - 011-41-41-34-86-80 quix@applelink.apple.com There is another solution, completely in software: 'Executor' from Ardi does the job, too. (http://www.ardi.com/ 5.23 My NeXT laser printer fails to fully eject the sheet - how to fix? printer, eject, NeXT laser NeXT laser, eject paper Fix it as follows. If you continually get messages like, "sorry, the printer is jammed" and you have to pull each page out the last inch, you probably need to replace the 14 tooth gear in the output stage(fuse ass'y). You can see this gear before you disassemble the printer, so that is a good first step. Then read these instructions all the way through and see if you want to attempt it. Next recommends replacing the entire fuse ass'y ( big bucks) if the gear is damaged, but Chenesko, Inc., of Ronkonkoma, NY sells the gears for $2.31. The part number is RS1-0132. They recommended I also replace the 20 tooth gear, number RS1-0116, but I don't know if it is really necessary. Their phone number is 800-221-3516. PartsNow is also selling laserprint replacement parts. Their part number for the a replacement roller part is RA1-84489-000 000. You might contact them for further details. To examine your gear, open the rear (delivery ) door and undo the screw attaching the strap that keeps the door from opening down all the way. The gear is on the side nearest the power input to the printer. There are two gears on the part of the delivery ass'y that swings down. The suspect gear engages the top one, but is mounted on the fixed portion of the fuse. Ours had several teeth missing and/or damaged. To get the gear off you have to remove the fuse ass'y. To remove the fuse you must open the printer lid fully, so it is straight up. To open the lid fully you must remove the case. To remove the case you must remove the plastic cover on the lid. Are you getting the idea now? This will be a lot of fun, and take most of the afternoon. I hope you have a spacious, well-lit area, because there are a lot of screws, and a lot of them are painted black, so they are hard to see when you drop them, unless you drop them inside of the printer, where you might NEVER see them again. Fortunately, as with all computer equipment, they seem to put lots of extras in, so just make sure there aren't any where they might do damage, like short out the mega KILOVOLT corona power supply, or grind into the REGISTRATION rollers. You do want your printouts to be straight, don't you? So, if you're ready, here we go. * PREPARATION Most mere mortals will want to power down everything and disconnect the cables, etc. Remove the cartridge and paper trays, etc. * REMOVE THE LID COVER open the lid and remove 3 screws. They DO NOT have any red paint on them. * REMOVE THE BACK DOOR there is one screw that holds the strap. When you can swing it clear down, you can squeeze the hinges together and remove the door. * REMOVE THE CASE There are maybe seven screws that hold the case on. Four are right on top. Two are just inside the rear door area. Two are down inside where you store that green cleaning tool. 4 + 2 + 2 = 7, right? Say, who was the last guy that worked on this printer anyway? The case has to be convinced that you really need to remove it, even when it is loose and all the screws are out. * REMOVE THE FUSE ASS'Y You will need a PHILLIPS screwdriver for this, as with the previous steps. But you will need a LONG one this time. Three of the screws are pretty easy to find. Just study the lower part of the fuse, as it is screwed onto the bottom case. Two of the screws are inside. One is under the lid next to the gears, the other near the green cleaning tool. On the outside, in back, there is one on each side. One is under the white wires that connect the fuse to the 10 AMP circuit breaker, which is pretty near that gear, and close to the power input. Unplug that cable. Then remove the small black crew that holds the black plastic gear cover so you will have better access to the last screw. Then you will have to wrestle the fuse out the back of the printer. Be careful with it. * DISASSEMBLE THE FUSE There are several screws and a spring. It's not too hard to take apart. You can see the gear, so you just have to take off the covers on that end of the ass'y to get to it. I should caution you that I had trouble putting them back on, because they have funny shapes and don't make a lot of sense. Plus I was tired, so I went home, ate dinner, played with the dog, went to bed, got up and ate breakfast before I put it back together. You might want to label some parts, make some drawings, etc. to reassure yourself that you can put the parts back just like they were. * REMOVE THE GEAR You can remove the gear pretty easily with a small screwdriver by unspringing the "E"-ring that holds it on the shaft. Try not to bend the e-ring. * PUT EVERYTHING BACK TOGETHER Sorry, I can't help you with this part (HA HA!) I told you you should read the instructions first. Maybe you should buy a new printer, or try to attach some third party printer via the serial port! Well, if you got this far I hope you dropped little crumbs of bread so you can find your way back. I try to save all the little screws by putting them back in the holes they came from, or putting them in some small container. You might clean some of the gears or the paper path while you have it open. You can also install a new OZONE filter. Remember OZONE is hazardous to your health, so you don't want to inhale it. DISCLAIMER: BE CAREFUL IF YOU TRY THIS PROCEDURE. THERE ARE DANGEROUS VOLTAGES PRESENT, AND EVEN IF YOU ARE TOO CHICKEN TO WORK ON IT POWERED UP, YOU COULD CUT YOURSELF, OR DROP THE WHOLE THING ON YOUR FOOT, THUS VOIDING THE WARRANTY. ALSO, THE PRINTER WONÂT WORK WITHOUT THE COVERS, BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO SECRET SWITCHES THAT INFORM THE NEXT CPU THAT SOMEONE "IS FOOLING AROUND WITH THE PRINTER AGAIN." Yet another update to reflect that Jacob Gore received gears for an Apple Laserwriter from Chenesko, which are similar enough to work, but with some modification.Also, if the original gear is in fair condition, it can be reversed on the shaft until a replacement is ordered. 5.24 What are the NeXT mouse connections? mouse, connector Read the following instruction. Thanks to Alvin Austin (austin@cs.USask.Ca) I have the information I need on the NeXT mouse connections. Pin Function 1 +5v 2 X Encoder Phase A 3 X Encoder Phase B 4 Y Encoder Phase A 5 Y Encoder Phase B 6 Right Button 7 Left Button 8 Ground 5.25 What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT? References: NeXTanswers' hardware.620, 92_spring_bulletin "Announcing NeXTstation Turbo and NeXTcube Turbo" NeXT Computer (68030-25MHz/68040-25MHz), NeXTcube (68040-25MHz): Number SIMM slots: 16 SIMM group size: 4 SIMM type: 30-pin low profile> SIMM access rating: 100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9) Maximum RAM: 64 MB The low-profile vertically mounted 4 MB SIMMs are easier to install in the NeXTcube than the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs because of the small height clearance above the SIMM slots. It is possible to install the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs, but you will be required to slide the CPU board and the center tower in simultaneously. Parity (9-bit) SIMMs can be used in both 68030 and 68040 NeXT machines, but should not be mixed with non-parity SIMMs. Only 68040 boards with ROM levels of 2.2 (v63) and higher can use the parity memory to detect parity errors. It is OK to mix parity and non-parity memory, but the system will not boot unattended. Cubes with early boot ROMs will not work with 4 Mb parity ram, unless at least 3 banks are used. The system gives an exception error on power up. The fix is to get a new boot rom from Next. You can pay $30, or you may be able to squawk and get one for free. I have found Next to be pretty responsive, once I find the right person. The correct version is v66 which was the last or final rev for this series of 040 boards. This version also fixed the problem in the second paragraph. NeXTdimension boards (i860): Number SIMM slots: 8 SIMM group size: 4 SIMM type: 72-pin SIMM access rating: 80 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4, 8 MB (256Kx32, 1Mx32, 2Mx32) Maximum RAM: 64 MB (32 MB official NeXT) NeXT didn't officially bless the use of 8 MB SIMMs, but they seem to fit and work. NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers below ABB 002 6300: Number SIMM slots: 8 SIMM group size: 4 SIMM type: 30-pin SIMM access rating: 100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9) Maximum RAM: 32 MB Faster SIMMS (70/80 ns) don't make the memory system work any faster than the 100 ns units. NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz): Number SIMM slots: 8 SIMM group size: 2 SIMM type: 72-pin SIMM access rating: 80 ns5 SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36) Maximum RAM: 32 MB NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Color Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers above ABB 002 6300: Number SIMM slots: 4 SIMM group size: 2 SIMM type: 72-pin SIMM access rating: 70/100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 ,8, 16, 32 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36) Maximum RAM: 128 MB For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs: SIMMs rated at 80 or 100 ns will be detected upon powerup and the memory system clock slowed to 100 ns. Faster RAM than 70 ns won't give you a speed increase anymore. In fact it could slow things down again, because some hardware drives 60 ns RAM as 100 ns RAM. NeXT manufacturing introduced the new 25 MHz NeXTstation CPU board into production in late June '92. To verify which SIMM type your machine uses, check the system's memory configuration. You can do this by using the ROM monitor©s print memory configuration command m. Start with your machine powered down. Press the Power key to power on. As soon as the message ªTesting system...º disappears, press command-command-tilde ( on the numeric keyboard). Under these circumstances, this will access the ROM monitor. In the ROM monitor, type m and press return. Turbo-designed boardsÐincluding new 25 MHz NeXTstations and all Turbo systemsÐwill return messages reporting the memory configuration contained in four sockets (sockets 0 -3); old 25 MHz boards will return messages for more than four sockets (usually 8). You can tell a Turbo-designed board, and the accompanying 72 pin, 70 nanosecond SIMMs, by the fact it only reports information for only four sockets. The memory system has programmable memory timing such that the number of processor clocks needed to access a given amount of data can be tailored to the speed of the memory installed. 70 ns memory is just enough faster than 80 ns memory to allow the cpu to access the data with fewer clock cycles. This improves memory system performance. "70 ns" memory is faster than "80 ns" memory in many parameters other than just RAS access time. The faster CAS access time in particular allows the memory system to respond quicker to burst (16 bytes) bus transfers. 5.26 What is the NeXT SIMM tool? SIMM Tool The tool came with 68040 upgrade kits for NeXTcubes. It really makes removing SIMMs easy. It looks like a dental tool: about six inches long with a 1/2" long head offset at 90 degrees. To remove SIMMs, you slip the head into the hole on one side of the SIMM, rest the head on the SIMM socket next to the SIMM you are pulling, and pivot the tool back, using the simple fulcrum to gently pry the SIMM up about 1/8" from the socket on that side. Repeat on the other side, and the SIMM can be then removed by hand. 5.27 Where can I purchase a NeXT machine? Purchase, NeXT NeXT, purchase NeXT discontinued manufacturing hardware in Feb, 1993. Used systems are often advertised in comp.sys.next.marketplace. 5.28 Where to obtain hardware service? service, hardware hardware, service Hardware service can be obtained through the following firms: USA hardware service has been purchased by Bell Atlantic. They will be supporting the Authorized Service Centers and are selling extended warranty contracts. Decision One Voice: 800 499 6398, or 800 848 NeXT Fax: 510 732 3078 For Europe, please contact: SORBUS 40549 Duesseldorf Willstaetter Strasze 13 5.29 What types of NeXT machines were manufactured? NeXT, types of cube section There are two packages: a cube, and a station. * NeXTcube systems: + 68030-25 2-bit grayscale (NeXT Computer) + 68040-25 2-bit grayscale (NeXTcube) + 68040-33 2-bit grayscale (NeXTcube Turbo) + NeXTdimension board adds 32-bit color (i860) to any of above systems Cube systems can use any of the boards. With hacks, multiple independent CPU boards can run in one cube. NeXT Computer systems have room for 2 full-height 5.25" internal devices with a wide slot for an Optical Disk drive(s) in either position. NeXTcube systems also have room for 2 full-height 5.25" internal devices with a wide slot for an Optical Disk drive in the lower position, but have additional mounting holes for 1/2-height devices, and have a floppy slot at the top position. * NeXTstation systems: + 68040-25 2-bit grayscale (NeXTstation) + 68040-33 2-bit grayscale (NeXTstation Turbo) + 68040-25 16-bit color (NeXTstation Color) + 68040-33 16-bit color (NeXTstation Color Turbo) NeXTstation systems have room for two 1/2-height 3.5" devices, with a floppy slot at the side. 5.30 What can be done about older 030 NeXT cubes that have a fan that turns in the "wrong" direction? fan, running wrong The fan on older 030 NeXTs cubes sucks air out of the back of the cube which means that it draws unfiltered air in through the optical disk on the front of the cube. This causes optical disks to succumb to dust must sooner than cubes with the new-style fan which turns in the opposite direction. NeXT has apparently reversed their decision regarding fan reversal in the case of machines that have been upgraded to 040 processor boards. It is now considered okay to reverse the direction of fans in these machines. If you have many third-party cards installed in your cube or an older processor board, you may wish to consider not reversing fan direction (overheating could become a problem). In any case, do not reverse the fan's polarity, only reverse the fan assembly itself. Perhaps the best solution is obtain the cleaning kit and OD filter from NeXT. 5.31 Can I connect SONY MPX-111N to my 68030 NeXT Computer? SONY MPX-111N The SONY MPX-111N internal 2.88 MB floppy drive which was shipped with all the 68040 NeXT machines is not a SCSI device, therefore there is no way of connecting that particular drive internally on a 68030 system. 5.32 Why does the OD continually spin up and spin down? OD, spinning A big problem with the Canon optical drives is that air flows through the drive to cool it. Dust accumulates inside the drive causing it to fail with the continuous spin-up spin-down syndrome. NeXT as part of it's 040 upgrades provided a dust filter to prevent this. If your drive has this problem it usually can be fixed simply by cleaning out dust from the drive. NeXT sold a cleaning kit for both the drives and the optical disks. 5.33 How many colors can NeXT machines display? NeXT, colors The monochrome machines can display 4 gray levels. You can use color apps on a monochrome machine, they will converted into monochrome images and dithered accordingly. Color NeXTstations can combine 4 bits of red, green and blue primaries for a total of 4096 pure colors. The imaging functions dither the image to produce intermediate colors. NeXTdimension can combine 8 bits of red, green and blue for 16,777,216. There are not 16 million points on the display so all can not be displayed at once. Further display technology limits the usable color space. None of the NeXT products support color look up tables where the user can define their own color palette on a per window basis. This feature is useful for displaying images which have adaptive lookup tables, and display pure grayscale images on the color NeXTstation. On the NeXTdimension images can be converted to full 24 bit representation. 5.34 Why is my machine so slow when I run the monochrome and NeXTdimension displays? speed, display display, speed drops There is a bug with the window system in which if you select the monochrome display as your primary display the server will be much much slower. The solution for those wishing to use both displays is to select the color (NeXTdimension) display as the primary display. The most optimal configuration at present with the NeXTdimension is to run only the color display. 5.35 Where to obtain replacement mouse parts? mouse, parts From: jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu For those who have need of a new button in their mouse, and don't want to pay for the whole mouse when it is only the button that has gone bad, we have recently discovered a satisfactory replacement for the Omron switch. It is in the Digikey catalog, # 931, Jan-Feb 1993, page 141, under Cherry switches D4, DG, and DH series. Digikey part # CH164-ND, Cherry part # DG1C-B1AA. We ordered one of these, and just received it today. Tried it out, and it seems to be working flawlessly so far. It is also possible to replace mouse buttons from a two button mouse with mouse buttons of the three button mice. 5.36 Where to obtain extra batteries? battery, purchase purchase, battery Battery part number: BR 2/3A 3V Lithium Battery (Panasonic) Source: Engineered Assemblies & Components Corporation 5204 Green's Dairy Road Raleigh, NC 27604 Phone: 919-790-9700 (ask for Debra) 5.37 How to convert a Turbo system to use ADB? ADB, turbo system If ADB equipment are used with older NeXT systems they won't work properly. Here are the ADB requirements: * A Turbo computer. * CPU eprom version 74. * New revision computer to soundbox/monitor cable. The part number is molded at both ends of the connector: Cable NEW OLD (Non ADB) NeXTcube 4534 150 NeXTstation 4535 1532 NeXTstation color 4536 2286 * New revision monitor which uses a vertical scan rate of 72hz instead of 68hz, except on NeXTdimension systems color monitor stays 68hz. Monitor NEW (72hz) OLD (68hz) 17" mono ACX (N4000b) AAA (N4000a \& N4000) 17" color ADF (N4006) ABG (N4001) 21" color ADB (N4005a) ABH (N4005) * ADB soundbox for color systems. S/N prefix ADD instead of ABN. 5.38 68030 board in the same NeXTcube as a 68040 board? DISCLAIMER: THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE IS NOT SUPPORTED BY NEXT, INC. AND WILL DEFINITELY VOID THE WARRANTY ON YOUR NEXT COMPUTER. FOLLOW IT AT YOUR OWN RISK. I DISCLAIM ALL RESPONSIBILITIES FOR DAMAGES CAUSED BY NEGLIGENCE IN FOLLOWING THE PROCEDURE. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THE PROCEDURE WILL WORK ON ALL VERSIONS(?) OF THE NEXT CUBE HARDWARE. ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT WORKED ON THE NEXT CUBE I WAS WORKING ON!!!! SO BEWARE. Here we go! I'll first provide a description of the hardware I was using and comment on what I accomplished and how I got the information on how to do it! The hardware included a NeXT cube with 660 MB drive, OD, etc., a 68040 upgrade board, and a 68030 motherboard. I successfully installed both the 68040 and 68030 boards on a SINGLE NeXT cube and linked them together through their ethernet ports. The 68040 was configured as a boot server and the 68030 was used as its client (booting off the network for lack of an additional hard drive). The procedure reconfigures slot #2 on the cube's back-plane as slot #0. This provides two slots configured as #0, required for booting the two motherboards. Once I determined what the slot pin-outs were (thanks to my good friend John Chmielewski), it was a matter of time before the two boards happily co-existed. The procedure: 1. First, follow the procedure on the NeXT User's Reference manual for removing the system board (Appendix C: Opening the Cube, page 291 of the 2.0 manual). 2. Using the NeXT supplied screwdriver, remove the two screws that attach the power-supply housing to the cube (the screws are located on the lower part of the housing) and gently pull the housing out. Set it aside in a safe place (away from kids and nosey friends!) 3. Remove the two plastic grooved plates (used to slide the system boards in) at each side of the inside bottom of the cube. (For each plate, lift the side closest to the rear opening and gently pull them out). Set them aside. 4. Using the NeXT tool, remove three screws holding the back-plane to the cube and then take the back-plane out of the cube. Let the cube rest for a while. Inspect the back-plane. You will see five bus slots (four vertical and one horizontal). The horizontal slot connects the back-plane to the power supply housing. We're only interested in the four vertical slots. From the factory these slots are configured as 6, 2, 0, and 4 (starting from the left and going right with the horizontal slot at the bottom). The system board connects to slot #0 (which you've probably noticed). Each slot contains three columns of 32 pins. Following is an ASCII representation of one of the slots: x y z C B A o-o o 32 . . . o-o o 31 . . . o-o o 30 . . . o-o o 29 . . . 28 . . . . . . 3 . . . 2 . . . 1 . . . ...where x, y, and z are labeled GND, SID, and VCC, respectively. The GND, SID, and VCC "holes" are used to configure the slot number using simple binary encoding, where GND is logical zero, VCC is logical one, and SID (for Slot-ID I guess) determines the current bit state (one or zero). Notice the four rows of GND, SID, VCC triads; each row is equivalent to one bit position in the slot number, the bottom row bit position 0, the top row bit position 3. This gives a total of four bit positions, or 16 possible slot numbers. To encode a slot number, you need to connect an SID row to its corresponding GND or VCC row. For example, the diagram below shows the configuration of the slots in my cube's back-plane (you'll have to look very closely to see the actual connections): SLOT 6 SLOT 2 SLOT 0 SLOT 4 BIT 3: o-o o o-o o o-o o o-o o BIT 2: o o-o o-o o o-o o o o-o BIT 1: o o-o * o o-o * o-o o o-o o BIT 0: o-o o o-o o o-o o o-o o 5. To reconfigure slot 2 as slot 0, cut the trace between SID and VCC for bit position 1 (see * o o-o * above) and connect SID to GND on the same row. I used the SIMM removal tool supplied by NeXT in the 040 upgrade (talk about multi-purpose) to cut the trace! Very gently, scrape the solder off between the two holes. Take a paperclip, shape it to fit between the holes in SID and GND, and trim it down to an even 1/4 inch (perfect fit)! That's all there is to it. If for some reason you ever want to revert to slot 2, just remove the paperclip from GND-SID and reconnect it to SID-VCC. 6. Now put the cube back together. First, re-install the back-plane using its three connecting screws, then snap on the plastic plates, and finally insert the power-supply housing and secure with its two screws. At this point the cube is ready to take on the two system boards (it is up to you to determine where/how you want to use the two boards; I'll explain how I used mine) ... 7. I installed the 68040 in the original slot 0 and the 68030 in the reconfigured slot 0 (previously slot 2). The 68040 was used as the main processor board. I connected the 660 MB drive, the OD, and the monitor to it. NOTE: Before beginning the procedure, I went into the NeXT Monitor on the 68030 and disabled the Sound out, SCSI tests and verbose test mode and enabled serial port A as a console terminal. I also made "en" the default boot device. I setup the 68040 as a boot server and taught it about the 68030 (which took some time in getting it setup properly). 8. I connected the 68040 to the 68030 using a thin-ethernet cable and I booted. First thing I noticed was that the 030 timed-out a couple of times waiting for the 040 to tell it to boot. But after the 040 was up, the 030 booted nicely. That's all folks. Hope all this made some sense and people find it useful. Comments: * To power off the cube, I have to first shutdown the 030 (I run "halt -p" as root from a telnet connection and wait for the 030 to go down), and I then power-down the 040. If you shut down the 040 before the 030, you'll have to pull the power plug to turn the machine off. The cube will not power off if either of the two boards is providing a load to the power-supply. * Remember, I've only performed this procedure on one system. I do not know what will happen on your system. So make sure you plan ahead what your going to do and that you understand the procedure. * I don't know what problems may arise when you add a board that uses the NeXTbus, such as the NeXTdimension, or how it will behave. If someone is courageous enough to perform the procedure and installs another board, please post your results to the net. Update: To clear up some misunderstandings with the settings in the "p" command of the NeXT monitor (these settings are only required for the system board that doesn't have the NeXT display monitor connected): 1. Sound out test must be "no"; the boot process will not proceed if the monitor isn't connected to the board and this is set to "yes" (the sound out tests will fail, aborting the boot procedure). 2. SCSI tests should be "no" if you don't have SCSI devices attached to the board (SCSI tests will fail otherwise, aborting the boot procedure). 3. Verbose test mode must be "no" for booting from the network. If set to "yes", the boot process will timeout waiting for a BOOTP and you'll be left in the monitor with no means of restarting the board (except pulling the power plug)! This is probably true also for booting from an OD that hasn't been inserted (assuming the OD was attached to the board). 4. Allow serial port A as alternate console if you want to view the boot process (for problems and peace-of-mind). 5. Other settings were not modified from their factory defaults or had no effect on the procedure. There is also a way in using 2 boards plus NeXTDimension board in one Cube. I've run my "screw with the backplane trick" cube with : | <empty> | 32MB-ND | | 64MB-040 | 40MB-030 | without any problems. Using the od got the system warm, but never had a problem. The cool part was having the printer on the 030. One day I tried to dump an 040 into the 030 position, but I couldn't get it to boot. I played for a couple minutes, but put the 030 back in and went on with life... 5.39 How to expand DSP memory? memory, DSP DSP, memory The Speech Recognition Lab at San Francisco State University has developed a DSP memory expansion board for the NeXT computer that provides the maximum memory supported by the DSP56001 processor. We are now offering this board to those whose are interested in high-performance custom DSP development. * The board is a 576KB DSP expansion memory board organized as three non-overlapping 192KB banks: X-data, Y-data and Program. The board uses relatively fast ( * The board is a high-quality, 4-layer board, open-circuit tested prior to assembly. It fits into the DSP memory daughterboard slot on all NeXT machines. * The price will be $600. Please let us know if you are interested. Delivery will be in about 3-4 weeks. * Contact Tom Holton (th@ernie.sfsu.edu). E-mail is preferred. The address is: Tom Holton Division of Engineering San Francisco State University 1600 Holloway Avenue San Francisco, CA 94132 415 338 1529 (phone) 415 338 0525 (fax) NOTE: Because we've organized our memory as three separate (non-overlapping) banks (X, Y and P) of 192KB apiece, none of the DSP memory image functionality provided by NeXT with its existing 8K base configuration, or its 96KB DSP expansion module is supported. While we cannot guarantee that every existing DSP application ever written will be plug-and-play compatible with our DSP expansion memory, we are not aware of any existing applications that use the image functionality. The MusicKit, and demo programs that use the DSP, such as Mandlebrot and ScorePlayer, work fine with our memory module. 5.40 How to boot a NeXT without a monitor? The procedure is to just touch pins 6 and GND on the DB-19 NeXT monitor out with a 470 Ohm resistor (450 is the actual resistance, but 470 ohms is more commonly found in resistors). Pin 6 is the power sense, and pins 13-19 (and the DB shell) are the GND. Just say "pin 19", it may be easier. There's a pinout diagram of the DB-19 in the NeXT Users Reference Manual. If you have an old Cube, the power supply needs to have more power drawn from it than an 030 (and 040?) board uses to stay on. So: On the DB-19, attach a Power Resistor (20 Ohm, at least 20 Watt) between pins 12 and GND. (Pin 12 is -12V, pin 13 works well for GND). Then just "touch" the 470 ohm resistor as described above, and you're set. The 20 Ohm resistor draws an old 030 running without monitor in an old CUBE), but it isn't necessary - just don't touch it (*HOT!* ;-) To power off, type "halt -p" as root on the machine (either through a terminal connected to port A, or over the ethernet connection). Also, you have to have the Rom Monitor settings done correctly. The important ones are: Wait until keypress? N Sound out tests? N Port A as alternate Console? Y (if you have one, it's nice) Verbose mode? N (I think this may need to be N to work, don't r emember). 5.41 Where can I get black spray paint for my NeXT? Black, spray paint paint, black spray You can get black spray from the following address. Sprayon Paint Omni-Packblend 4Next-Black (icon black) LAV-16 25216 Call 1-800-777-2966 for the name of a dealer near you. 5.42 What makes aged NeXT monitors dim? monitor, dim The cause of the dimming monitors is the CRT cathode wearing out. The most common type of CRT (and the type used in most NeXT monochrome monitors and all of the NeXT color monitors) uses what is called an oxide cathode. A thin coating of oxide is deposited on the cathode to allow the electronics which form the picture to get off the cathode easily. The oxide gradually boils off the cathode itself, and when the oxide is gone, the CRT goes dim. Typically, the oxide will last from 10,000 to 20,000 power on hours (screen savers don't help the cathode, they only prevent phosphor aging). Unfortunately, the black monochrome monitors fall into the short end of the life range thanks to Toshiba who made the CRT's. The aging is more noticeable in Unix machines because they tend to be left on. Note that there are about 8,000 hours in a year. If you leave your monitor on all the time, all oxide type CRTs will be dim in three years. The other type of CRT cathode is the I-cathode or dispenser type. This type of cathode is porous and continually brings new activation material to the surface. Its lifetime is 40,000 hours or more. The last of the NeXT monochrome monitors (N4000B) used this type of CRT and they don't go dim. There aren't many of that type around because NeXT quit the hardware business after producing only a few thousand. If you can get an N4000B monitor, you won't ever have to worry about a dim monitor. Many manufacturers are going to dispenser cathode type CRTs in their monitors with Panasonic leading the way. The best advice is to turn off the monitor when not in use. If that is impractical, try to purchase one with the long life cathode. Spherical Solutions (smg@orb.com) has a supply of new N4000B long life monitors for sale in either ADB or non-ADB configurations. If you need to repair or replace a monochrome monitor, that is by far the best type to use. If you read this far, you probably know more than you ever wanted to about CRT aging, but I hope this helps. 5.43 How to use two internal hard drives drives, two internal It is possible to fit a second internal hard drive in a NeXT slab, in addition to the floppy drive and the first hard drive. The second drive must be third height, or 1 inch high. There is no room for a half height device. Buy a bracket or make one out of sheet metal for the 1 inch high drive. On 25 MHz mono stations the SIMMs are smaller and the drive doesn't have to go all the way against the back wall. In this case, glue the bracket to the underside of the NextStation cover, centered from side t o side and as far to the back as possible. This is sufficient. On 25 MHz colorstations, however, one must file away a bit of the interior metal on the cover in order to glue the bracket fully to the rear of the cover. Once this modification is done, th e drive will clear the RAM when the cover is closed. Screw the drive into the bracket, with the power and SCSI plugs toward the right hand side of the NextStation so that the cables will reach. Go to your favorite computer store and get both a "dual int ernal SCSI bus cable" and a "dual internal SCSI power cable." Plug in the cables to both internal hard drives and close the cover. This was verified on both a 25 MHz mono and a 25 MHz color NextStation. No power or heating problems occurred. 6 WHITE (INTEL) HARDWARE 6.1 What about support for NeXT Computer specific hardware features such as the DSP? support, specific DSP, support support, DSP NeXT computers offer additional hardware support not commonly available for Intel systems. This includes the DSP. The DSP in a NeXT Computer is used for a variety of functions including ISDN support and real-time audio compression/de-compression. ISDN support for NEXTSTEP/Intel will be provided via an add-on PC card and ISDN adapter. Although the DSP programming feature is missing for NS3.3 on Intel, it is not necessary. The important SoundKit functions are rewritten to emulate an DSP on Intel, but this costs a lot of CPU time. 6.2 Do Multi-Architecture Binaries take a lot of extra disk space? MAB, disk space multi application binary, MAB The concept of NEXTSTEP binaries is different to other platforms. On NEXTSTEP only the real program is compiled and linked in a hardware specific manner. E.g. the GUI and the multilanguage support are usable on any platform running NEXTSTEP and will do so under OPENSTEP. Therefore the real binary part is sometimes really small. Anyway it might be a good choice to thin such a fat binary. NeXT ships tools for this purpose. Look at the manpages for lipo. If an application wasn't installed using the standard NeXT tool Installer, it might also be a good choice to look into the application drawer and delete other languages supported but not used by the application. This additional data is found in the different *.lproj subdirectories in the application's folder. To get there, activate the application's icon and select Open as directory from the Workspace's File menu item. 6.3 How difficult is it to recompile existing NeXT applications over to NEXTSTEP/Intel? compile, re Very easy. Most programs will simply recompile and run, or require few changes. We believe that any application that uses the standard development environment and Object kits provided by NeXT should simply compile and run. Only applications that use architecture specific features or data formats, will require additional time to port. Several developers have already ported applications to NEXTSTEP/Intel. Appsoft Draw simply recompiled and ran, Lighthouse Concurrence took 3 hours, other programs took 1/2 a day to 2 days, and this was all on a very early release of NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.1! Some applications just will refuse to compile, because they are still based on the old 2.0 headers etc. These applications are really rare now and may get ported very easily too, by changing the include path in your developer package. Other applications require additional header files and libraries to properly compile and link. These applications are mostly based on the MiscKit or MusicKit and other PD-Kits. You need to install these Kits first to compile these programs. With the shipping of OpenStep this might change, because it will be possible to produce shared libraries with the NeXT Developer package. This will enable you to not install the complete Kit, but only the shared library and will also reduce your binary no ticeable. 6.4 When developing programs, are there any portability issues I should be aware of? portability Yes. As stated above, any applications that use the standard tools provided by the NEXTSTEP development environment, should just recompile and work. To make sure developers are aware of portability issues, NeXT is producing a guide to address source code portability between different architectures running NEXTSTEP. This guide is available in the online documentation to the NeXT Developer package. 6.5 What is the difference between the NEXTSTEP/Intel User Environment and Developer Environment? user vs. developer developer vs. user The NEXTSTEP/Intel User Environment consists of the entire NEXTSTEP 3.3 environment, minus the developer tools. The Developer Environment includes the developer tools such Interface builder, Project Builder, C compilers, Object Kits, example source code and developer documentation. Although it is possible to just get the latest GNU C compiler as a binary, you can not use it! This is because you won't get the standard libraries needed to produce NeXT applications neither the header files. Also it there is currently no third party com piler shipping. If you want to compile, you are forced to use the NeXT Developer package. The status of compiling a standard UNIX utility without NeXT's headers and just based on the supplied shared libraries is unknown. 6.6 If a specific I/O card is not supported by NeXT, can 3rd parties write drivers for NEXTSTEP/Intel? I/O driver Yes. NEXTSTEP/Intel uses a newly developed object-oriented driver architecture that brings the benefits of object-orientation all the way down to the I/O card driver level. 6.7 How is NEXTSTEP/Intel installed? installation, Intel NEXTSTEP/Intel will come with a boot floppy and a CDROM. To install NEXTSTEP/Intel, the system boots from the floppy, and then installs the minimum NEXTSTEP environment from the CDROM (SCSI CDROM drive). The user may then chose from several optional packages depending on the available disk space and user requirements. 6.8 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on 386 machines? 386 Intel 386 No. NEXTSTEP/Intel uses several 486 specific features that enhance the performance of NEXTSTEP. NEXTSTEP/Intel will support any 486 with Coprocessor and up. 6.9 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on the Cyrix 486SLC? 486SLC, Cyrix Cyrix, 486SLC NeXT states: No. The Cyrix chip not a true 486. several other users state: Yes. Slow performance, though. 6.10 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on the future Intel Microprocessors in the x86 family? x86 Intel, x86 Yes. NEXTSTEP/Intel will not only support them, but will take advantage of any performance enhancements available with future Intel CPU's, just as NeXT has taken advantage of the 486. 6.11 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel run on portable computers? portable computers Yes. Many portables and notebooks with 486 CPU's and sufficient system resources (>=8MB RAM and >=120MB hard disk space) are available. Since NEXTSTEP/Intel will support 640x480 VGA displays in grayscale, NEXTSTEP 486 can run on these systems. Do be aware that NEXTSTEP's user interface and applications were not designed for low-resolution screens, and consequently will impose limitations on the use of some applications. 6.12 Will NEXTSTEP/Intel be able to run MS-DOS and Windows programs? MS-DOS Windows MS-Windows Yes. NEXTSTEP/Intel will support a DOS and Windows compatibility package. This software will allow DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1 programs to run within a NEXTSTEP window. Support will include DOS "Protected" mode and Windows 3.1. This package is called SoftPC and comes with every NEXTSTEP system. The software is not free with NEXTSTEP, you have to pay extra. Anyway you are not limited in a 30 day test phase when installing it. Windows 95 and Windows NT are not supported by the emulation software. 6.13 How will my DOS and Windows applications perform under NEXTSTEP/Intel? MS-DOS, performance Windows, performance MS-Windows, performance Very well. The DOS/Windows compatibility package for NEXTSTEP/Intel takes full advantage of the 486 microprocessor. Depending on system hardware configuration and type of DOS/Windows application, performance should vary between 386 and 486 native DOS/Windows performance on Pentium systems. In addition, to enhance the performance of Windows applications, a MS Windows specific Graphics Device Interface (GDI) driver which maps Microsoft Windows calls directly to the NEXTSTEP window server is part of the system. 6.14 Is the window I use to run Microsoft Windows applications resizable? Windows, size MS-Windwos, size Yes. You can set the Windows session to any size you wish up to the maximum screen size available to the NEXTSTEP/Intel system you are using. 6.15 Will this DOS/Windows compatibility system allow me to run several DOS programs at once? MS-DOS, multitasking Yes. Since NEXTSTEP/Intel is a multi-tasking, virtual memory operating environment, several DOS/Windows sessions can be run at once. Hey, did I say Windows? Yes you can do real Windows multitasking with SoftPC. 6.16 Can I cut and paste between DOS/Windows sessions and NEXTSTEP applications? cut&paste, Windows cut&paste, MS-DOS cut&paste, MS-Windows Yes. You can cut and paste text and graphics between DOS/Windows and NEXTSTEP applications. 6.17 Can I use both DOS and NEXTSTEP/Intel partitions on the same hard disk? partitions, NeXT and DOS multi OS setup OS, more than one Yes. NEXTSTEP/Intel will support multiple operating systems on the same local hard disk. When the system boots, the user can chose to boot another operating system (such as DOS) or NEXTSTEP. If the local partition contains DOS, NEXTSTEP/Intel will be able to access the local DOS partition and read/write files to it, with the restriction on primary partitions only. Executive Summary: It is possible to install DOS, Windows NT with NTFS, and NEXTSTEP/Intel on the same disk, and select which partition is booted at boot time. I spent some time experimenting with a 200MB SCSI disk. I wanted to see if the following configuration would be possible: Partition 1 Primary DOS Partition 2 Extended DOS Partition 3 Windows NT NTFS Partition 4 NS/Intel 3.2 Since Windows NT requires at least 70MB for installation, and NS/Intel requires at least 120MB, there wasn't much room for DOS! Ultimately, I only tested a three partition system (DOS, NTFS, NS/Intel), but I have no reason to believe that the extended DOS wouldn't also work. The recipe is as follows: * Preparation. You need a bootable DOS floppy that has FORMAT.COM on it. You need another (blank) floppy for installing NT. * Start with the NS/Intel installation. When it asks you how you want to configure your disk, it gives you three choices, which are basically 1. erase the whole disk and use it all for NS/Intel, 2. save some room for DOS, 3. advanced. Choose the advanced option, which places you in NS/Intel fdisk (not to be confused with DOS FDISK.EXE). * Create three partitions in this order: 1. Primary DOS (if more than 32MB desired, use the "large" FAT option) 2. HPFS (this is a placeholder for NT, and can be any non-DOS format) 3. NEXTSTEP * Proceed with the rest of the NEXTSTEP installation. * When NEXTSTEP is safely installed and tested out, boot DOS from your bootable DOS floppy. * FORMAT the DOS partition (which should be Drive C if you made it the first partition). You want to FORMAT C:/S, to install the boot code to make the DOS partition bootable. * Once DOS is safely formatted and tested out, insert the NT installation floppy and reboot. * Proceed with the NT installation. Tell Setup to install NT in the second partition (which shows up as "Unformatted"). You can select NTFS for FAT format. * Insert the blank floppy when asked. Don't bother to format it, NT unconditionally formats it. * If you select NTFS, there is a scary part of the installation that makes it seem like NT can't reboot. In fact, it is converting the installed files from FAT to NTFS in place. Just let it keep rebooting until it finishes, don't interrupt it like I did. * Finish setting up NT and test it out. It should be able to see the DOS partition in FileManager. * Likewise, there should be a DOS filesystem in / on NS/Intel. If you configured NT for FAT instead of NTFS, there should be two DOS filesystems in /. That's it. When you boot, you see the familiar NS/Intel boot manager. If you select DOS, it boots NT, which in turn offers you a chance to boot DOS or NT (not NS/Intel, of course). Kind of weird that you have this two tiered boot, but it's probably because the bootsector has been modified by NT. I haven't tried setting the active partition to DOS -- that might avoid the two tiers. 6.18 Can NEXTSTEP/Intel read, write, and format DOS and Mac floppies? MacIntosh, r/w floppy MS-DOS, r/w floppy Yes. 6.19 NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.1, DOS, Linux/NT multi-boot system? multi OS boot Linux MS-DOS OS/2 boot manager dual boot The OS/2 boot manager does this nicely. NOTES ON INSTALLING DOS, OS/2 AND NEXTSTEP FOR DUAL BOOT * Boot OS/2 from diskette and press Escape to get to the [A:] command prompt * Run the OS/2 FDISK program and create the following partitions: + 1 MB Boot Manager + 20MB DOS Primary partition (drive C:) + 64MB OS/2 Extended partition (logical drive D:) + 120MB Data Extended partition (logical drive E:) (or 200MB or whatever size) NOTE: LEAVE THE REMAINING 460+MB FREE SPACE UNFORMATTED DO NOT CREATE A PARTITION FOR THE REMAINING SPACE * Re-boot the machine and boot DOS from diskette. * Format drive C: and install DOS on drive C: with the following command: format c: /s /u * Now Re-boot the machine with the OS/2 Installation diskette. * Install OS/2 on Drive D: (the 64 MB logical partition) You will be prompted to install OS/2 on the default drive C: You will need to select the option to change the drive which will throw you into FDISK. Just make drive D: installable and proceed. * After OS/2 has been installed shutdown the system. Do a cold power off boot. * Cold boot the machine with the NEXTSTEP boot diskette. * Proceed with normal NEXTSTEP install and you should get the following disk installation option screen: Type 1 to erase the entire disk and use all 667 MB ... Type 2 to set aside some space for DOS and use the rest ... Type 3 to keep existing partitions and use the 462 MB free space ... Type 4 to use the 184 MB DOS extended partition for NEXTSTEP. Type 5 for advanced options (in English only). ---> Choose option number 3 and proceed with the NEXTSTEP install * After NEXTSTEP has been installed, re-boot the machine and select 'd' from the NEXTSTEP boot manager menu to boot DOS. * When DOS has booted, run the FDISK program to set the active partition to the first partition, the BOOT Manager partition. Then exit fdisk. * Now run the DOS FDISK program again but with the following parameter: fdisk /mbr This command removes the NEXTSTEP boot manager from the DOS partition. * Now re-boot the machine and the boot manager should come up. Select OS/2 * Once OS/2 has booted, run the OS/2 FDISK program and name the NEXTSTEP partition and add it to the boot manager menu. * You should now have a machine with DOS, NEXTSTEP, OS/2 listed in the boot manager menu when the machine starts up. The boot manager defaults to the OS that was last booted. 6.20 NeXTSTEP on INTEL, KEYBOARD-ERROR ... keyboard error, Intel We installed NeXTSTEP for Intel on a P5-Board using an Adaptec A1540 SCSI-Controller. The System boots correctly. After running the kernel the keyboard is without any function. We can't use it anymore. Rebooting doesn't eliminate the error (advise from I-Guide). Well, it seems that the PS/2 Mouse driver interferes with the keyboard driver when installing on some motherboards. You have to remove the PS/2 mouse driver, then reboot, and it will work fine. I destroy the driver on our machines, so that config=Default will work properly as well. You should be able to remove the driver without reinstalling. 6.21 NS 3.2 Tseng ET4000 Video Driver doesn't work. ET4000, NS3.2 TSENG Cards often have different DACs and BIOS-Versions. It is important, that the graphics card do have the original BIOS from TSENG Laps. Otherwise, it is not possible to run NS with the 1024 x 768 resolution. 6.22 Accessing ROM monitor on Intel-System, how? ROM-Monitor, Intel On Intel you just type -s at the boot: prompt. Also try CTRL-C at the point where it hangs it might continue. This gives you single user mode. There simply is no ROM-Monitor on Intel as it is on NeXT. You do have the choice to enter a simple ROM-Debugger by choosing the appropriate option when the system hangs. 6.23 Adaptec 2940 Fast and Sync. SCSI explanation... This message is to clear up the confusion on the issue of whether or not the NEXTSTEP driver for the Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Host Adapter supports Fast SCSI (i.e., 10 MB/s data transfers). The Adaptec 2940 SCSI Host Adapter Driver supports Synchronous Data Transfer as well as Fast SCSI transfers. In order to enable Synchronous Data Transfer, this feature must be enabled in both the 2940's AutoSCSI program and in the NEXTSTEP Configure application, when configuring the Adaptec 2940 driver. In the AutoSCSI program, this feature is enabled in the SCSI Device Configuration menu, via the "Initiate Sync Negotiation" field. This can be enabled or disabled on a per-target basis. In the Configure application, the "Synchronous" button, if disabled, disables Synchronous Transfers for ALL targets. If enabled, the values selected in the AutoSCSI program are used to determine whether or not Synchronous Transfers occur on a per-target basis. The Synchronous Transfer data rate is determined in the 2940's AutoSCSI program, via the "Maximum Sync Transfer Rate" field in the SCSI Device Configuration menu. "Fast SCSI" Transfers are enabled by selecting a value of 10 (i.e., 10 Megabytes/seconds) for this field. Note that if Synchronous Transfers are disabled, the "Maximum Sync Transfer Rate" field is meaningless. Also note that it is not recommended to select a value higher than 5 for a device which is in an external enclosure and connected to the 2940 via an external SCSI cable. 6.24 Do EIDE-Drives work with NEXTSTEP? EIDE Yes, a driver is included in NEXTSTEP 3.3 6.25 Anyone have a driver yet that does 8 bit color on an ET4000/w32p card? (Hercules Dynamite Pro VLB) ET4000/w32p, 8 Bit color Here's a trick that will work with 3.3 if the driver works with your adapter. You need the latest driver though. Simply select one of the 8-bit gray resolutions in Configure. Save the configuration and quit Configure. Open Instance0.table inside the driver bundle and search for BW:8 and replace it by RGB:256/8. Save the file. Restart your machine and you've got 8-bit color!!! 6.26 Does a Glidepoint pointing device work with NEXTSTEP? Glidepoint It will work nicely under NS as you don't need any driver to make it work and use the nice features that GlidePoint have, like 'double-tap' to replace left-button click and 'double-tap and slide on the pad' to replace the hold the button and move for dragging an object. 6.27 AppleTalk under NEXTSTEP/Intel? AppleTalk, Intel IPT has a product called Partner, which works fine under 3.3 and mounts AppleShare Volumes, supports AT printing etc. (This is true, although IPT states that Partner only runs under 3.3 Black and 3.2 Intel.) 6.28 Booting hangs with black screen Triton Bootoptions On some Triton based boards there seems to be a graphic problem while booting. The solution is to switch off graphic display and always boot with the '-v' option turned on (enter this at the 'boot:' prompt). If you don't get a 'boot:' prompt, or if you just want to fix things forever, you need to enter Default.table and Instance0.table in /usr/Devices/System.config and set 'BootGraphics="No"'. This has the same effect as typing '-v' at the 'boot:' prompt every time. Setting BootGraphics=NO can also be done from the Expert panel in Configure.app 6.29 Why are the features of my graphic card useless? graphic card For the purposes of this discussion, I will limit my response to the manner in which DPS operates as part of the NEXTSTEP window server. DPS sometimes draws directly to the screen and sometimes to offscreen memory (buffered windows). The latter is the most common case. The former occurs only in nonretained windows and visible portions of retained windows. DPS is split into two sections: a device independent kernel and a device dependent driver layer. The driver layer is free to use graphics hardware to do its job; however there are complications. First, most graphics cards only allow you to use the hardware to draw into the framebuffer, not into system memory. This renders the hardware unusable for buffered windows. Second, the hardware must draw the same pixels that the software would draw. Often this is hard to achieve with satisfactory performance results. The DPS device primitives rely on precise pixel layout that often cannot be guaranteed using the hardware in the most straightforward manner. So, while it is theoretically possible to use graphics hardware with DPS in NEXTSTEP, it is not very practical. This should not lead you to the conclusion that all graphics cards are the same when it comes to NEXTSTEP. The speed of the system bus (ISA, EISA, PCI, VLB) is a big determinant of performance, but the internal architecture of the card itself also has a huge impact on the framebuffer memory bandwidth. I won't go into details, but some of the determinants include DRAM vs. VRAM, memory interleaving, and burst access. Other factors also influence the quality of a display card. These include the speed and stability of the RAMDAC and the supported display modes to name jsut two. 6.30 How to use MIDI without the MusicKit? MIDI MusicKit * Be sure you have an MPU-401 compatible MIDI card for the PC. * Get the Music Kit and install it. It's on the ftp servers. * Install the MIDI driver by double clicking on /LocalLibrary/Devices/Mididriver, which will add it to the system. Set the IRQ and IO port in the Configure.app. Then reboot. * If your program does not use the -ObjC flag on its link line, link against /usr/local/lib/libmusickit.a. However, if your program does use the -ObjC flag, extract the following files from libmusickit.a and link against them explicitly: mididriver_replyServer.o mididriverUser.o mididriver_nonMig.o * Add this line as the first line in the C file that accesses the MIDI driver: #import <musickit/midi_driver_compatability.h> Be sure that you do not explicitly import . This file is (conditionally) imported by . The reason for needing a separate API for Intel is that there's a structure size disparity between the 68k and Intel versions of NeXT's libsys_s. So we defined a new set of MIDI functions for the Intel driver. The header file above defines the old names to be the new names. * Change the mididriver port name from mididriver to Mididriver. Example: #if i386 #define MIDIDRIVER_NAME "Mididriver" #else #define MIDIDRIVER_NAME "mididriver" #endif r = netname_look_up(name_server_port, "",MIDIDRIVER_NAME, &driverPort); This is another change to prevent conflict with the NeXT hardware driver. 7 STORAGE 7.1 Disktab help needed: ST15230N disktab ST15230N Seagate, ST15230 This is the /etc/disktab entry for the SEAGATE ST15230N. ST15230N_1024|SEAGATE ST15230N_1024:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#3992:nt#19:ns#59:ss#1024:rm#5411:\ :fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:hn=localhost:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#512000:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#8:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#512000:sb#512000:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#8:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD:\ :pc#1024000:sc#716800:bc#8192:fc#1024:cc#8:dc#4096:rc#10:oc=time:\ :ic:tc=4.3BSD: \ :pd#1740800:sd#1536000:bd#8192:fd#1024:cd#8:dd#4096:rd#10:od=time:\ :id:td=4.3BSD: \ :pe#3276800:se#1150000:be#8192:fe#1024:ce#8:de#4096:re#10:oe=time:\ :ie:te=4.3BSD: 7.2 Formatting DEC DSP3105 with 1024-byte blocks. DEC, DSP3105 DPS3105, 1024 block size disktab A DEC DSP3160S was reformatted with 1024-byte blocks using the following entry in /etc/disktab (two partitions) # DEC DSP3160S DSP3160S|DEC DSP3160S|DEC DSP3160S w/1024 b/sec as 2 partition:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#1302:nt#16:ns#75:ss#1024:rm#5403:\ :fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:r0=a:\ :pa#0:sa#744000:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#7:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#744000:sb#818400:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#7:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD: 7.3 My formatted disk has much less space then advertised! filesystem, overhead disk space space, disk filesystem, space Let's assume you bought a disk drive advertised with 400 MB unformatted capacity. Vendors are not consistent with the MB definition. You may have much less space less than you think you have. Which of the following did you buy? 400 * 1000 * 1000 = 400,000,000 bytes 400 * 1024 * 1000 = 409,600,000 bytes 400 * 1024 * 1024 = 419,430,400 bytes The disk must be formatted. This is often done by the vendor, but occasionally by the user. Formatting maps the disk into sectors. Space is reserved for the disk geometry and bad sectors. Formatting can take 10-20% of the capacity depending on the sector size. Common sector sizes are 512 and 1024. Generally, bigger sectors mean less waste. Once formatted, the UNIX file system must be created. On the NeXT, this is one of the steps performed by the BuildDisk application. It invokes the mkfs command to make a file system. This reserves space for the UNIX file system (e.g., superblocks, inode tables). This overhead can take another 2-3% of the available disk space. If you issue the df command, you may be surprised to see another 10 the available disk space has disappeared. The df command shows the total, used, and available disk space. The df units are in kbytes (1024 bytes). The sum of the used and available numbers will generally be about 10 allow the UNIX file system to be efficient in its storage allocation. If your disk fills up, only the superuser can store files in the remaining 10%. To complete the picture, here's a snapshot of what may occur: Capacity Lost/Used/Reserved Reason (in bytes) (in bytes) 419,430,000 19,430,000 Marketing hype (~5\%) 400,000,000 60,000,000 Formatting (~15\%) 340,000,000 6,800,000 UNIX file system (~2\%) 333,200,000 33,320,000 Efficiency & superuser (~10\%) 299,880,000 For more information, refer to the df and mkfs man pages. 7.4 Can't initialise my disk within the Workspace initializing Sometimes there are problem initializing disks. This only occurs if the disk is already formatted, but in a different format, e.g. the sector size was changed etc. Mostly you can overcome this problem by using the sdformat utility available on the FTP sites. (Not sdform by NeXT, which is incapable to do this). After using sdformat, you should be abel to further format the media within Workspace. 7.5 Initialing Opticals for NeXT OD, NeXT optical disk, OD OD, initializing Do the following: /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 288339 1803 2 8192 1024 12 10 60 4096 t 7.6 How to use a tape drive ? tape drive Using Configure.app add the SCSITape driver to support any SCSI tape drives in the "Others" config. 7.7 How to recover from an partially formatted disk? recover, disk Often people (mostly on Intel) complain about a formatted disk (sometimes partially) due to an installation process error of some other OS. There is a chance to recover most of the data. The following assumes you are on Intel, other hardware user have to handle things much less complicated, but the way is similar: * Prepare a new hard drive for booting * Don't try to repair the broken drive! * On Intel run fdisk to repartition the drive as it was before. If you are not able to do this, you are lost. Delete all evtl. new created partitions. By repartitioning, you won't loose data on the drive. * Run disk on the broken drive e.g. type disk -rsd1h. * Now scan the disk for superblocks by entereing the scan command at the interactive disk command prompt. * If your disk was partially formatted, use a higher superblock number to supply fsck with an new superblock. E.g. if a superblock was found at 3145 use fsck -b3145 -y /dev/sd1a (assuming the first partition is the broken one). * After this run, it is most important to reboot without syncing the drives! E.g. just turn off the computer without shutting down, or use the reboot -n command. * After rebooting the run fsck again, if it isn't done by the system itself. * You should be able to access the drive again now. Recovered files are placed in the /lost+found directory. 7.8 What about the ZIP drive? IOmega, ZIP ZIP drive There are frequently asked questions about the IOmega ZIP drive. One question will be answered here: 'Yes, it works with NEXTSTEP'. For other question I'd like to point you to the ZIP-drive FAQ: http://www.radical.com/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html 8 PRINTING 8.1 What printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with NEXTSTEP? printer, NeXT Adding supported postscript printers is rather simple: * Get a serial cable (e.g., Macintosh to LaserWriter Plus), but check whether that works with your printer * Configure using Print Manager * Configure printer communication according to manufacturer's recommendations. (9600 baud software flow control). A sample printcap entry needs to be loaded into the netinfo database. You can use either niload printcap . , or use NetInfoManager to change the br and lp properties of your LaserJet. Using the default baud rate and /dev/ttya will also work, for most print jobs (if the printer is connected to this port). LaserJet_III: \ :note=LaserJet_III:ty=HP LaserJet III PostScript: \ :sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/LaserJet_III:lp=/dev/ttyfa: \ :lf=/usr/adm/lpd-errs:af=/usr/adm/lp.acct:br=19200:rw:fc\#0000374: \ :fs\#0000003:xc\#0:xs\#0040040:mx\#0:sf:sb:if=/usr/lib/transcript/psif: \ :of=/usr/lib/transcript/psof:gf=/usr/lib/transcript/psgf: \ :nf=/usr/lib/transcript/psnf:tf=/usr/lib/transcript/pstf: \ :rf=/usr/lib/transcript/psrf:vf=/usr/lib/transcript/psvf: \ :cf=/usr/lib/transcript/pscf:df=/usr/lib/transcript/psdf: HP printer configuration: auto cont = off (doesn't matter) I/O = serial serial=rs-232 (for LJ III only) baud rate = 19200 (or whatever baud rate you have in ni database/printcap) robust xon = on (doesn't matter) dtr polarity = hi startpage = off (doesn't matter) language=english ret = med (you choose for LJ III only) Note that if you modify the printcap this way you cannot reconfigure this particular printer entry with PrintManager. If you are using NEXTSTEP 2.0 and you use remote non-next printers, there is a bug that can be simply corrected by doing "dwrite system PrinterResolution 1" for each user trying to access non-next printers on the network. This not a problem in later NEXTSTEP versions. 8.2 What fonts can I use with NEXTSTEP? fonts Properly packaged Type 1 or 3 PostScript fonts will work with NEXTSTEP, but certain conversions may be necessary to get them to work. Freeware and shareware fonts are available on various ftp archives. There are utilities with NEXTSTEP to download fonts into postscript printers. Freeware and shareware Type 1 and 3 fonts in files Fonts-1.0-free.tar.Z and Fonts-2.0-sw.tar.Z. Each file unpacks into it's own directory. Within each directory is a ReadMe.rtf and a Makefile. See the ReadMe.rtf for more font descriptions and installation instructions. (You may also find comments in the Makefile of interest.) These packages were prepared by Doug Brenner . The same directory contains fonts Shalom (Hebrew and Yiddish in Old Style, Stick and Script typefaces, by Jonathan Brecher, shareware) and CyrillicGothic (san serif, by Jay Sekora). These were packaged by Jacob Gore to work with the Installer application. WSI-Fonts for NEXTSTEP \#1 Abstract Software POB 25045 Seattle, WA 98125-1945 Voice: 206 361 5080 info@abstractsoft.com Some fonts in Type 1 format for NEXTSTEP are also available from Y&Y: Y\&Y, 106 Indian Hill, Carlisle MA 01741 USA Voice: 800 742 4059 Voice: 508 371 3286 Fax: 508 371 2004 71172,524 on CompuServe 71172.524@compuserve.com from InterNet There is a font converter available in the MetroTools package by MetroSoft (info@metrosoft.com). 8.3 How can I save my printable documents to a postscript file? PS to file Select PRINT from the main menu, then select SAVE from the resulting print panel. 8.4 How can I print only the even or odd pages of a document? odd and even pages even and odd pages duplex printing double sided print I wish print on both sides by feeding the paper through twice. We must recommend against re-using laser printed paper in your printers. The reason is that the toner which is used is not very robust, in that when heated again (which happens when you print) it can come off the other side of the paper. This causes a mess to accumulate in your printer, and probably some pretty rude things to happen. psutils from comp.sources.misc is a much better solution, and includes a lot more capabilities, plus it is being updated constantly. 8.5 How do I get banner pages on my printer output? banner There is a sample banner prologue file in /usr/lib/NextPrinter that is sent to the printer before or after the print job depending on what printer attributes are set in NetInfo. Sounds gross, but it isn't. Start up NetInfo on your printer machine. Go to the printer directory, and open up your local printer by double clicking it. Select the append property from Directory menu. Replace the name with BannerAfter (or BannerBefore if you want the banner page printed first). The select the New Value option, and put in the name of the banner prologue file. If you do not wish to do fancy customization of the file, simply put the path to the NeXT sample banner file: /usr/lib/NextPrinter/banner.pro Save out the netinfo modifications. 8.6 How do I get [la]TeX files to print correctly on non-NeXT printers? Latex TeX If you are printing to a non-NeXT printer from NeXT TeX using dvips, make sure you specify the correct resolution (300 dpi, usually), either on the command line with -D300, or in the /usr/lib/tex/config.ps file with a line that looks like : D 300 If you are printing from within TeXView, you will have to choose CustomResolution and enter the correct number (300, usually) because of the way DefaultResolution defaults to 0. 8.7 What if I have a PostScript font has not been ported to NEXTSTEP? PS-Font to NeXT Many PostScript fonts port to NEXTSTEP with little effort. The easiest case is a font generated by Fontographer version 3.2 or above (a comment near the top of the file should say which program generated the font). This version of Fontographer can generate fonts "for NEXTSTEP". This means that no hacking of the font is needed, but you may need to make some adjustments to make it appear in your font panel. Suppose you were porting the font family Shalom, which consists of three faces: Old Style, Stick and Script. Here is the procedure to follow: * In a working folder of yours, create folders called: Shalom-OldStyle.font Shalom-Script.font Shalom-Stick.font Note that the font family name is to the left of the hyphen ("-"), and the typeface name is to the right and with no spaces in it. * Copy the outline font file for each typeface from wherever it is into its folder, and give it the name of the folder minus the ".font". For example, if you are doing this in a Terminal window: cp /Floppy/ShalomOldStyle.NeXT Shalom-OldStyle.font/Shalom-OldStyle cp /Floppy/ShalomScript.NeXT Shalom-Script.font/Shalom-Script cp /Floppy/ShalomStick.NeXT Shalom-Stick.font/Shalom-Stick If you are working in Workspace Manager's File Viewer, double-click on the big fat F icon to open the font directory as a folder, then you'll be able to rename files in it. * Do the same thing with the font metric files, but make the suffix ".afm": cp /Floppy/ShalomOldStyle.AFM Shalom-OldStyle.font/Shalom-OldStyle.afm cp /Floppy/ShalomScript.AFM Shalom-Script.font/Shalom-Script.afm cp /Floppy/ShalomStick.AFM Shalom-Stick.font/Shalom-Stick.afm * If there is a "read me" file with the font, or any other documentation, copy it into the .font folder too. For example, each of the Shalom font folders contains files ReadMe, CheatSheet.wn and Sample.wn specific to the typeface. * Edit the outline and font metric files to make them fit the NeXT AppKit's Font Panel, which is what most NextStep applications use to let you choose your font. + Editing the outline file, e.g., Shalom-OldStyle.font/Shalom-OldStyle: The original used "ShalomOldStyle" as the font's name, full name, and family name. We want the name to be "Shalom-OldStyle", the full name "Shalom Old Style", and family name just "Shalom". First, find the lines: /FullName (ShalomOldStyle) readonly def /FamilyName (ShalomOldStyle) readonly def and change them to: /FullName (Shalom Old Style) readonly def /FamilyName (Shalom) readonly def Then, replace all remaining occurrences of the string "ShalomOldStyle" with "Shalom-OldStyle". + Editing the AFM file, e.g., Shalom-OldStyle.font/Shalom-OldStyle.afm. Find the lines: FullName ShalomOldStyle FamilyName ShalomOldStyle and change them to: FullName Shalom Old Style FamilyName Shalom Replace all remaining occurrences of the string "ShalomOldStyle" with "Shalom-OldStyle". Repeat this procedure for the remaining typefaces. * You now have a font family ready to be installed. If the font family is to be used by your account only, place it in /Library/Fonts (creating it if necessary): mkdirs ~/Library/Fonts mv Shalom-*.font ~/Library/Fonts buildafmdir ~/Library/Fonts If everybody on your system should have access to this font family, place it (as superuser) in /LocalLibary/Fonts: su mkdirs /LocalLibrary/Fonts mv Shalom-*.font /LocalLibrary/Fonts buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts exit That's all you need to do for fonts generated by Fontographer version 3.2 or above. This will work with all applications that use AppKit's FontPanel. FrameMaker does not, so other changes may need to be done to keep FrameMaker happy [does anybody have something to add here?]. Fonts generated by Fontographer version 3.1 or below don't work in Display PostScript as they are, because they use a memory management trick that screws everything up in a multitasking environment like DPS. However, there is a simple, though kludgy, way to make them work. The problematic trick uses a dictionary with a name like "Fog3.1" ("Casa1" in Casady & Green's fonts) in which most of the font resides. The problem is that Fontographer puts that whole dictionary into dictionary 'userdict' and expects it to stay there. DPS, however, clears out 'userdict' between tasks, including the task that loads the font and the task that uses it. This makes the font useless on the screen, and printable only by prepending the outline font file to the file you want to print and sending the result to print in one task. The fix is to move the troublesome dictionary from 'userdict' into the font dictionary itself (unlike 'userdict', the font dictionary does stick around between tasks). Perform the following changes in the outline font file (the font CyrillicGothic is used as the example): * Find the line "%%EndProlog". It will be followed by the line like this: /\$CyrillicGothic 23 dict def \$CyrillicGothic begin Write down the number before 'dict' (in this case, 23). You will need it in the following step. Delete the dict definition, making the line look like this: \$CyrillicGothic begin * Go back to the beginning of the file. near the top of the font program, find the following lines: userdict/Fog3.1 known\{\{currentfile( )readstring \{(\%\%\%)eq\{exit\}if\}{pop exit\}ifelse\}loop \}if userdict begin/Fog3.1 45 dict def Fog3.1 begin and replace them with these: /\$CyrillicGothic 24 dict def \$CyrillicGothic begin/Fog3.1 45 dict def Fog3.1 begin The number before 'dict' (in this case, 24) is one greater than the number you wrote down in the previous step. * Find the line that defines procedure BuildChar: /BuildChar{Fog3.1/BuildChar get exec}def and change it as follows: /BuildChar{1 index begin Fog3.1/BuildChar get exec end}def * Go to the end of the file. The last line looks like this: /CyrillicGothic findfont/EFN get Fog3.1 begin\{RF\}forall end Delete it (or comment it out by placing one or more " beginning of it). The AFM file requires one adjustment. Change the line EncodingScheme AppleStandard to EncodingScheme AdobeStandardEncoding This concludes conversion of a font generated by Fontographer version 3.1 or lower to work with NEXTSTEP. You may still need to make the changes described for version 3.2 and above, to make the font fit the NEXTSTEP font panel. Short note: under NEXTSTEP 3.3 there is no need to call buildafmdir by hand. It's triggered automatically by the Font panel. 8.8 What color printers (laser or otherwise) may be used with NEXTSTEP? printer, color The (no longer sold) NeXT/Canon SCSI color printer, of course! With Dots Color, the HP DeskJet 500C can print in color today, under NEXTSTEP 2.1, and it costs significantly less than $1000 (in Germany at least). In Germany you can get more information from: d'ART Software GmbH Virchowstr. 17-19 W-2000 Hamburg 50 Germany Voice: +49 40 380 23 0 Fax: +49 40 380 23 290 software@dart.de JetPilot from Interpersonal Computer does this jobs also very well. You can get more information from: interpersonal computing GmbH Oettingenstrasse 2 W-80538 Muenchen Germany Voice: +49 89 22 28 63 Fax: +49 89 22 33 76 info@interpc.de 8.9 How can I make the Page Layout default to A4 in all applications? A4 default size Add "NXPaperType A4" in the "GLOBAL" preferences. 8.10 /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf: syntax error at line 31: `end of file' unexpected? Using lpr -t, or lpr -d causes this problem. eg: [...] cat /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/pstf [...] Christopher Lane has pointed out 3 (three!) errors in the distributed NEXTSTEP 3.0 lpd.comm file The last change is my own. It worked for the 1 (one!) dvi file I tried. tilley\% diff lpd.comm.DIST lpd.comm 11,12c11,12 < while "x\$1" != x do < case "\$1" in --- > while test \$\# != 0 > do case "\$1" in 16c16 < -h) HOST=\$"; shift;; --- > -h) HOST=\$2; shift;; 17a18 > esac 21c22 < PRSERVER="/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver -p \$PRINTER -n \$USER -h HOST -f -" --- > PRSERVER="/usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver -p \$PRINTER -n \$USER -h \$HOST -f -" 27c28 < psdf) psbad \$FILTER \$PRINTER \$USER \$HOST | \$PRSERVER;; --- > psdf) dvips -f -D 400 -r | \$PRSERVER ;; 8.11 How to get TeX with NEXTSTEP to make proper fonts for a 600 dpi laserwriter? 600dpi TeX fonts TeX, 600dpi If you upgrade to a 600 dpi laserwriter then the version of TeX that ships with NEXTSTEP (either 2.X or 3.0) does not know about 600 dpi fonts, i.e. does not know how to make them and will instead use scaled 400 dpi ones (which look significantly worse at 600 dpi than they do at 400 dpi). Some simple modifications to a few Metafont files and rebuilding the metafont bases are all that is needed. What to do to get the 600 dpi stuff working is as follows: * Edit /usr/lib/mf/inputs/next.mf and add a laserjetIV mode. Simply copy the entire imagen mode, change the name to laserjetIV, and change the pixels_per_inch to 600. Save the changed file. * Build a new mf.base file by executing the following commands: inimf "plain; input next; dump" (as superuser): cp plain.base /usr/lib/mf/bases/mf.base * Edit /usr/lib/tex/ps/config.ps and change the `D 400' line to `D 600' (you may have `D 300' or something else if you've set up a different printer.) * Edit /usr/bin/MakeTeXPK (as superuser), adding the lines elif test $BDPI = 600 then MODE=laserjetIV right before the second `else' in the file. That should do it! You might have to (depending on how you configure NEXTSTEP for the LaserJet IV) select `custom resolution' and set the gadget to 600 in the TeXview print panel, and save Preferences. These instructions are written for an HP Laserjet IV, but they should also work for a QMS printer just fine. Finally, if you have one of these printers and work in a "mixed" environment with perhaps 400 dpi and/or 300 dpi printers that you also print to on a regular basis then you might want to consider getting Type 1 PS version of the Computer Modern fonts instead. They obviate the need for the instructions above, and the savings in disc space will be considerable since having printer fonts for several printers takes lots of room, and the file sizes for 600 dpi are quite large (the files grow roughly as D logD, where D is the resolution). These fonts are made by Blue Sky Research, and work beautifully. Y&Y software is a reseller for BSR and sells a "NEXTSTEP specific" version of them which comes with appropriate instructions and installation scripts. 8.12 How to get printer description files (PPD)? PPD, where? printer description files, PPD Adobe has a mail server and ftp site where you can get .PPD files. They are: ps-file-server@adobe.com (put "send help" in the mail body) ftp.mv.us.adobe.com 8.13 What are the Canon part numbers for ink cartridges equivalent to those NeXT's Color Printer uses? ink cartridge, Canon Canon, ink cartridge Part Numbers are: Red: BJI-643 M Yellow: BJI-643 Y Blue: BJI-643 C Black: BJI-643 Bk 8.14 JetPilot does not work with my JetDirect box, why? JetPilot, JetDirect JetDirect, JetPilot eXTRAPRINT It seems, that there is a bug in the /etc/rc-script. The bootpd is given with to arguments -a -f, which are not available for the bootpd under 3.3. Make an entry in /etc/bootptab like this: \# \# host htype haddr iaddr bootfile \# printer 1 XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX where * host: your given hostname for the printer (eg. picasso) * haddr: The Ethernet hardware address (Can be seen, if you press the TEST-Key on your JetDirect box. * iaddr: Is the hostaddress for the printer (eg. 192.42.172.1) Entries have to be done also in the Netinfo-database. It's like adding a new host. Insert the following line to your etc/rc.local script: \# \# Starting JetDirect-Printer configuration \# fbshow -B -I "Starting Printer initialization" -z 92 /usr/etc/bootpd -d /etc/bootptab >/dev/console 2>\&1 There is an additional FAQ available at: ftp://ftp.gscorp.com/pub/support/HP_JetDirect_Configuration.rtfd.tar.g z 8.15 powering down NeXTprinter during bootup, printer still works power down, printer printer, printer down Type the following to your rc.local. \#turn off NeXT laser printer. fbshow -B -I "Powering off NeXTprinter" -z 95 if [ -f /usr/etc/nppower ]; then sleep 3 /usr/etc/nppower off (echo 'powering off NeXTprinter') >/dev/console fi This works fine... the printer powers down immediately, and is available for any app which wants it. 8.16 How to set up the HP LaserJet 4M? HP Laserjet 4M I solved the problem by building a serial cable based upon the pinouts supplied by HP in their manual. Please note that the LJIII cable does not work. In particular, pin 1 from the DIN plug must be connected to pin 6 of the DB25. I used 38500 bps on both sides, and the 600 dpi ppd. Emulex offers the NETJet network interface which speaks lpd protocol, unlike the HP unit. 8.17 Laserwriter NTX & NEXTSTEP Laserwriter NTX This are the pin assignments. Eight-pin mini DIN-8 RS-422 Port Pin Signal Description 1,3 SG Signal Ground 4 TxD+ Transmit Data + 5 TxD- Transmit Data - 8 RxD+ Receive Data + 9 RxD- Receive Data - IBM-compatible DB-25 Plug LaserWriter DB-25 Plug Signal Pin Pin Signal Shield 1 ............ 1 Shield TxD 2 ............ 3 RxD RxD 3 ............ 2 TxD RTS 4 ............ 4 RTS CTS 5 ............ 5 CTS DSR 6 ............ 8 DCD GND 7 ............ 7 GND ............ 20 DTR The other aspect is to set the DIP switch on the printer. Here are the DIP switch settings: Switch 1 Switch 2 Meaning UP UP LocalTalk---RS-232 port disabled DOWN UP Serial ports at 1200 Baud UP DOWN Serial ports at 9600 Baud DOWN DOWN RS-232 at 9600 Baud; RS-422 at 0 Baud Switches 3 and 4 can probably be ignored---they're for strange stuff like Diablo 630 and HP LaserJet emulation modes. Switch 5 Switch 6 Meaning DOWN DOWN XON/XOFF UP UP XON/XOFF DOWN UP ETX/ACK UP DOWN DSR 8.18 Problems with gray levels in printout gray levels color space PS Level2 If you have problems with your shades of gray (e.g. light gray is indistinguishable from white) this might be well a problem in the Level2 Color Space calibration of your printer. To ensure, it's a problem of your printer (and not a problem of the printer driver or PPD file) try the following: * Save a printout to a file * Edit the following line in your printout file: /\_NXLevel2 systemdict/languagelevel known {languagelevel 2 ge}{false}i felse \_\_NXdef to: /\_NXLevel2 false \_\_NXdef * Send the modified file directly to the printer using the commandline command lpr. If you still have problem with the shades of gray, the printer driver/PPD file is probably broken, otherwise your printer is broken, which means he has problems with the Level2 color space calibration (The given correction turns PS Level2 off). 9 OBSOLETE BUT STILL INTERESTING? This chapter contains information covered in the early days of the FAQs. It is not updated anymore. Note that with new releases of NEXTSTEP and OpenStep some information might still be useful to those, who e.g. didn't update. 9.1 Where can I get NeXT paraphernalia? Paraphernalia These parts can be ordered. NeXT T-shirts Classic NeXT logo on front $6.95 each (S-XL) 3.1 NEXTSTEP logo on front $7.95 each (M-XXL) NeXT Pencils $20.30 box of 100 NeXT Cross Pen $21.15 each NeXT Decals $75.00 box of 100 NeXT T-shirt $ 5.65 each - sizes S, M, L, XL (pre-shrunk) Turtle Neck $19.20 each - sizes S, M, L, XL NeXT Glass Mug $ 1.70 each Leather Folder $54.50 each NeXT Sweatshirt $19.20 each - sizes S, M, L, XL NeXT Tote-bag $ 6.25 each NeXT Mouse pad $ 9.67 each Orders can be taken 24 hours a day for domestic and overseas orders Contact: Hermann Marketing -------- 1400 North Price Road St. Louis, MO 63132-2308 Phone: 1 800 972 1331, 314 432 1800 Fax: 314 432 1818 Method of payment: Purchase order, check, money order, or credit card 9.2 Is there any way to change the text in the title bar of a terminal window? There is no way of changing the title bar of a Terminal.app window in 2.x; in 3.x there is. Check Preferences (Title Bar): set CustomTitle, type in the title, and hit CR (or Set Window) and voila! [From: andre@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Andre Roberge)] Actually, there is a way to change the title bar of a Terminal window in 2.x (at least in 2.1 which is what I am using). It is somewhat limited but it might be useful to some. The trick is to make a symbolic link between /bin/csh (or whichever shell one wishes to use) and a file in / named "Whatever_you_want_to_appear_in_the_title_bar". Then select this new "shell" in the terminal preference and, voila!, you'll have your terminal window with /Whatever_you..... in the title bar. You can edit Stuart's titlebar interactively from the "Window..." Inspector (Command-3). Stuart provides emulation of certain Operating System Command (OSC) sequences which can be used to modify the titlebar under subprocess control. Stuart can change the title of the current window from the command line. In Stuart is possible to get more descriptive titles by linking /usr/ucb/rsh to /usr/hosts/. Then by adding /usr/hosts to your Stuart ShellPath you can then get the hostname into the title bar: $ dwrite StuartShellPaths <various dirs>:/usr/hosts You should then type in the hostname as the shell to invoke (disable the "Shell reads .login file" for this. You can also add hosts to your .Stuartrc file: Shell=golem.ps.uci.edu SourceDotLogin=NO WinLocX=545 WinLocY=563 Lines=24 | WinLocX=76 WinLocY=833 For the localhost, link /bin/csh to /usr/hosts/, or even better /usr/local/bin/tcsh instead of using rsh. [From: Garance A Drosehn ] For what it's worth, I do this with a script called "telnet_to" and a (bash) function called "telnet_window". The function simply does a local soil_pars="-Lines 32 -Keypad YES -Reverse \ YES -Strict YES -TestExit YES"; soil -Shell "telnet_to $1" $soil_pars and the script is just: #!bin/sh /usr/ucb/telnet $* echo ' ' echo ' --> telnet exited, press enter to close window.' read -r Waste_Var exit 0 This has a number of advantages, not the least of which being that I can pop up a "telnet_window" to anywhere. I don't have to create links for each host (though I do create aliases for the most common hosts), and I can type "telnet_window" (or, e.g., "tel_aix") as a unix command. Also, if I lose the connection suddenly then the window stays around until I get a chance to see what happened. I use telnet instead of rsh because I generally connect to hosts which won't accept rsh's. 9.3 I can't get my pictures in OmniWeb OmniWeb You have to install the OmniImage.service in your /Library/Services or /LocalLibrary/Services (This is also a nice way to get pictures converted in other applications as well. You can ftp this from ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de 9.4 How do I remap the and | keys on my keyboard? Keyboard NeXT introduced a new keyboard configuration with the 040 products. The | keys which had been located on the main keyboard was moved to the numeric keypad. Many users have since complained about it, and a work around is to remap these keys using the demo application Keyboard (/NextDeveloper/Demos/Keyboard), Mike Carlton's keyboardfix program: ftp.cs.orst.edu:/pub/next/sources/next-interface/keyboardfix.tar.Z ...which lets you put these keys on shift-return or shift-delete. One can hope that there will be a choice of keyboards in the future. 9.5 How do I stop NeXTMail/Sendmail adding &Mcirc;s onto the end of lines? Sendmail In /etc/sendmail.cf make this change: [old code] ##### UUCP Mailer specification ##### Muucp, P=/usr/bin/uux, F=msDFMhuU, S=13, R=23, [new code] ##### UUCP Mailer specification ##### Muucp, P=/usr/bin/uux, F=msDFMhuU, S=13, R=23, E=\n, This has been fixed in 3.1, and the default mailhost sendmail is UUCP oriented. 9.6 Why does NEXTSTEP 1.0 hang a few seconds after attempting to boot? Boot hang, NS1.0 Release 1.0 contains a bug that can corrupt the kernel /odmach if a user attempts to launch /odmach from the browser. The solution is to copy a clean /odmach from another NeXT system. Be sure to change the permissions of the newly installed /odmach to remove execute permissions to prevent future occurrences of the same problem. Release 1.0a and beyond do not have this problem. It is possible for the sdmach to get corrupted in the same way. Boot from the OD, copy an uncorrupted version of the kernel to the hard disk, and remove the execute bits from sdmach. 9.7 Modem hangs under NS2.0 by incoming calls modem calls, incoming There is a bug in the serial driver which causes getty to get stuck. The situation arises after a successful uucico connection, subsequent connections via modem will get a connection with the modem, but no login prompt. This is caused by getty hanging. A simple work around is to have a process run in cron to reset the getty every 15 minutes: #! /bin/sh -u PIDS=`ps -ax | bm getty | grep -v bm | awk '{print $1}'` kill -TERM $PIDS Of course trying to connect when the script is running will not allow you to connect, try again a minute later. This fix will not affect on-going UUCP or interactive connections. This will probably be fixed in the next kernel release. This bug is corrected in NEXTSTEP 2.1 and later releases. 9.8 NS2.0 doesn't recognize /LocalApps path /LocalApps, NS2.0 Workspace has its own internal application path. In 2.0 /LocalApps was omitted. Improv needs to have /LocalApps in the Workspace path if you have Improve installed in /LocalApps. The work around in 2.0 only is: dwrite Workspace ApplicationPaths "~/Apps:/LocalApps:/NextApps: \ /NextDeveloper/Apps:/NextAdmin:/NextDeveloper/Demos" This bug is corrected in NEXTSTEP 2.1 and later releases. _________________________________________________________________ This document was converted from LaTeX using Karl Ewald's latex2html. -- -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholzb@pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@ve1.rm.op.dlr.de http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Why shoud I buy 4.0? Date: 9 Jul 1996 12:14:29 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Distribution: world Message-ID: <4rtif5$sm6@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <4rrda4$jk3@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> aisbell@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > As I have said before, I think 4.0 should be viewed as a Developer rather > than User upgrade because the development environment is where most of the > enhancements were made. Is 4.0 developer actually available now ? I.e. can I go out and buy a 4.0 academic bundle and start converting to OpenStep ? -bat.
From: shaynes@widomaker.com (Steve Haynes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Next memory upgrade Date: 9 Jul 1996 15:30:36 GMT Organization: EQB Industries Message-ID: <shaynes-0907961036330001@pm1-13.wmbg.widomaker.com> References: <31E22EE1.3714@fis1.fc.up.pt> In article <31E22EE1.3714@fis1.fc.up.pt>, Augusto Rodrigues <asrodrig@fis1.fc.up.pt> wrote: > Hello. > > I'm considering increasing the memory of my black Next. > I have a mono turbo slab (Motorola '040, 33 MHz), with > 16Mb. I'd like to add another 16Mb. I know the appropriate > simms are 72-pin, 70 ns. But not all simms are equal, and most/all > memory places don't know what a black Next is. I've seen > other posts refering what other, more common, hardware should > people refer to when ordering memory (e.g., Macs) but only for > other, older Nexts (e.g.,a Mac IIci for 25MHz slabs). > > What would be an equivalent machine I could reference to ask > the sales people memory for? > Did anyone had this problem before that could post/mail me the > answer? > > Thanks to all. > > A. Rodrigues Augusto, I am not affiliated with these people in any way but they have incredible prices on memory for Black Nexts. The company is Deep Space Technology and you want to speak with Shannon 1-301-663-3033 he evidently is a large dealer of used black hardware. good luck.
From: "Dr. Alan Kelm" <akelm@cms.math.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Upgrade NS 2.1 -> 3.3 in one step? Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 16:40:33 -0400 Organization: University d'/of Ottawa Message-ID: <31E2C3C1.2781@cms.math.ca> References: <31E14177.167E@cms.math.ca> <Pine.NXT.3.94.960708194113.25759B-100000@charisma> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > I was under the impression (which may not be correct) that the > academic version was NOT upgradable. What I've been told is that the academic version, while not an 'upgrade', is a full release. However, I was told that it includes an "upgrading app", and so can be used for an upgrade. I haven't actually done this (yet), but this is what I've been told. -Alan -- : Alan W. Kelm akelm@cms.math.ca : : Canadian Mathematical Society - executive office Unix computer support :
From: macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Why shoud I buy 4.0? Date: 9 Jul 1996 21:13:51 GMT Organization: The University of Calgary Distribution: world Message-ID: <4rui2f$13a4@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> References: <4rrda4$jk3@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> In article <4rrda4$jk3@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> aisbell@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: > "Lullaby" <everblue@ucla.edu> wrote: .. > As I have said before, I think 4.0 should be viewed as a Developer > rather than User upgrade because the development environment is where > most of the enhancements were made. But 4.0 User will be needed to run > 4.0 apps, so there are behind-the-scenes enhancements to User that > support the new dynamic shared libraries used by all OpenStep > environments. That reminds me. Can the developer system now produce shared libraries? (Or, more precisely, is it officially supported with documentation) I did not find mention of it in the on-line information. Maybe I missed it? -- -Andrew macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca home page: http://www.geo.ucalgary.ca/~macrae
From: rdieter@mathlab44.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Upgrade NS 2.1 -> 3.3 in one step? Date: 9 Jul 1996 22:53:39 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <4runtk$sng@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <31E2C3C1.2781@cms.math.ca> In article <31E2C3C1.2781@cms.math.ca> "Dr. Alan Kelm" <akelm@cms.math.ca> writes: > Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > > I was under the impression (which may not be correct) that the > > academic version was NOT upgradable. > > What I've been told is that the academic version, while not an 'upgrade', > is a full release. However, I was told that it includes > an "upgrading app", and so can be used for an upgrade. I haven't > actually done this (yet), but this is what I've been told. Sorry, I got in the thread a little late, but... Yes, you have an Upgrade.app. But, the academic version is not upgradable in the sense that when you buy NS-3.3, you are buying a "new" license, not just an upgrade... so after the purchase you actually have two NS licenses, one for NS-2.1 (what good is that? (-; ) and one for NS-3.3. I've actually tried upgrading with an older machine (with NS-2.1) we picked up. I was NOT successful. NS-2.1 wouldn't/couldn't read the NS-3.3 CDROM. I think it was because of some new(er) incompatible block size used... (??) The point is: I had to install from scratch. I hope you may have better luck. -- Rex Dieter Computer System Manager Department of Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska Lincoln
From: mdadgar@auspex.com (Mark Dadgar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Upgrade NS 2.1 -> 3.3 in one step? Date: 10 Jul 1996 00:37:18 GMT Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara Message-ID: <4rutvu$mbp@alpha1.auspex.com> References: <4runtk$sng@crcnis3.unl.edu> In article <4runtk$sng@crcnis3.unl.edu> rdieter@mathlab44.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) writes: > I've actually tried upgrading with an older machine (with NS-2.1) > we picked up. I was NOT successful. NS-2.1 wouldn't/couldn't > read the NS-3.3 CDROM. I think it was because of some new(er) > incompatible block size used... (??) The point is: I had to install > from scratch. I hope you may have better luck. > Actually, if you can find a copy of the 3.0 upgrade kit, and you run UpgradePrep.app on your 2.1 machine, you can probably successfully upgrade directly to 3.3. UpgradePrep.app installs a new kernel that includes support for the newer CDROM format. - Mark -- Mark Dadgar - Systems Engineer - Auspex Systems - http://www.auspex.com mark_dadgar@auspex.com - (408) 986-2429 (office) - (408) 980-0121 (fax) " ... men of reason, not of rhyme ... " - Kevin Gilbert, 1966-1996 NeXTMail and MIME happily accepted
From: david@dbynum.async.csuohio.edu (D E Bynum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Why should I buy 4.0? Date: 10 Jul 1996 01:39:16 GMT Organization: Cleveland State University Message-ID: <4rv1k4$m7g@csu-b.csuohio.edu> In article <4rtif5$sm6@netty.york.ac.uk>, you wrote: >aisbell@cubicsol.com (Art Isbell) writes: >> As I have said before, I think 4.0 should be viewed as a Developer rather >> than User upgrade because the development environment is where most of the >> enhancements were made. > >Is 4.0 developer actually available now ? I.e. can I go out and buy a 4.0 >academic bundle and start converting to OpenStep ? > >-bat. Having just talked to Anne at Optimal Object in Denver (who sell the academic bundle for NS, 1-800-452-7608, see also www.optimal-object.com), I can report that OpenStep is "released," but still not "shipping." Optimal Object do not themselves yet have the "released" version running, still only the beta. But they want to sell us the bundle anyway, NOW. Probably the right conclusion to draw is that the sales dept. at NeXTstep want to sample the market and see how big their production run should be (printing the manual and all that) before they actually let a contract to someone to produce X number of copies for them. Beyond that, my guess is the code still ain't quite right either... David bynum@lserver.math.csuohio.edu
From: Carl_Lindberg@BLaCKSMITH.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a "dumb" ping for NeXT? Date: 10 Jul 1996 03:02:00 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <4rv6f8$fqk@BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <199607032019.QAA09949@nerc.com> > By "dumb" I mean a 'ping' which will respond either "is alive" or > "is dead" or "no such host" VS the ping which continually bombards > the stated host. Try fping -- it can efficiently ping N hosts in this manner and is friendly to shell scripts. The author's home page is http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~schemers/ and the URL for the shar file is http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~schemers/docs/fping/fping.shar Hope this helps, -Carl Lindberg Carl_Lindberg@BLaCKSMITH.com -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Lindberg Carl_Lindberg@BLaCKSMITH.com (NeXTmail, MIME)
From: caggiano@wtv.com (Alan Caggiano, Psy.D.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Do you own a socalled `refurbished' B&W Megapixel monitor? Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 22:58:22 -0600 Organization: Thin Client Group Message-ID: <caggiano-0907962258220001@sf-027.sfo.com> References: <DtLzGB.K7E@AWT.NL> <4raavp$c7f@news.wco.com> <4rbdlc$4h@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> <Dtxou5.7Bq@waldo.com> In article <Dtxou5.7Bq@waldo.com>, hocker@waldo.com wrote: > And what, pray tell, is a "zapitator"? Yes, this could extend the lives of a batch o' black boxes yeh? > : > monochrome monitors. We were able to successfully refurbish most of them > : > by using a "zapitator" on the CRT to blow the oxides off of the exiter > : filaments. > -- Alan Rosseland-Caggiano, Psy.D. Clinical Psychologist , "Ease of use means it IS easy to use, not it SHOULD BE easy to use."
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Is there a "dumb" ping for NeXT? Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.94.960710080319.366D-100000@nerc1.nerc.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:08:38 -0400 References: <199607032019.QAA09949@nerc.com> <4rv6f8$fqk@BLaCKSMITH.com> To: Carl_Lindberg@BLaCKSMITH.com In-Reply-To: <4rv6f8$fqk@BLaCKSMITH.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I wrote a little shell script and wrapped it around the ping from NeXT. It's called 'pping' and you can get it at: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/pping.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/pping.README the README is bigger than the compressed shell script :-) I didn't realize that the NeXT-supplied ping would handle X number of pings (I had a replacement 'ping' in /usr/local/bin that would) TjL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Now in infancy: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat
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From: Eugene Mah <eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Printing from NeXT to WfW PC Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 09:50:53 -0600 Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960710094431.24583B-100000@raddi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Has anyone ever attempted to convince NS/I to print to a WfW PC? Going the other way is pretty easy using Samba, but I need to go the other way (the printer in question is shared among several other WfW machines and isn't mine to move over to the NS/I computer). I've managed to get lpr printing to work over Samba (a bit of work, but pretty easy). Getting NS to print via the Print Panel seems to be non-trivial though. I've set up the printer in question in NetInfo, but when I select it, the print panel complains about not having a PPD. When I try to print anyway, NS complains that I haven't selected a printer. Anybody have any suggestions? Thanks Eugene ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Eugene Mah eugene@raddi.uah.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail) Systems Administrator "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words Bother University of Alberta Hospitals me." Winnie the Pooh Edmonton, Alberta, Canada http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/ PGP KeyID = 0x1F9779FD or 0xE37A1591 O- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Hidden feature of Workspace Manager found Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:12:57 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960711140911.18813C-100000@hphalle7f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just found a hidden feature in Workspace Manager: You don't need a keyboard shortcut for mounting/unmounting devices (such as floppy disks on Intel hardware). Just hold the Control button or the Command Button and double click the NeXT icon in the Dock to mount/umount disks. I has the same effect as selecting 'check for disks' and 'eject disk' from the menus. I didn't test it with powered on devices after bootup. Greetings, Boerny. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholzb@pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is it possible to use 3.3 drivers (binaries) with 3.2 ???? (Intel) Date: 10 Jul 1996 21:06:15 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4s1608$3qb@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4rsrht$12k1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> lupescu@pa.msu.edu (Ody) wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I just got a copy of NS3.2 (Intel) > I found on the NeXT WWW site drivers for my SCSI card, PCI bus, > and EIDE CD-ROM ...the problem is that they are for 3.3... With very few exceptions, there are no drivers which work on both NS-3.2 and NS-3.3. None of those exceptions are for drivers written by NeXT. > I want to run NeXTSTEP OS, I've just bought the CD for $100, but > I can't afford to upgrade now to 3.3... (besides, I think you > must have 3.2 installed to upgrade to 3.3) If you get NS-3.3, you can install from that CD. I'm afraid that doesn't help you much until you have the CD for NS-3.3... --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: rdieter@mathlab44.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hidden feature of Workspace Manager found Date: 11 Jul 1996 13:10:45 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <4s2ugl$28k@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960711140911.18813C-100000@hphalle7f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.960711140911.18813C-100000@hphalle7f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de > Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes: > I just found a hidden feature in Workspace Manager: > > Just hold the Control button or the Command Button and double click the > NeXT icon in the Dock to mount/umount disks. I has the same effect as > selecting 'check for disks' and 'eject disk' from the menus. I didn't > test it with powered on devices after bootup. This is not completely accuarate, at least not on our Intel-based NEXTSTEP-3.3 machines. Shift-DoubleClick Check for Disks CNTL-DoubleClick Eject Disk This IS quite a handy shortcut. -- Rex Dieter Computer System Manager Department of Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska Lincoln
From: par@MCS.COM (Peter Richardson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hidden feature of Workspace Manager found Date: 11 Jul 1996 08:35:32 -0500 Organization: MCSNet Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <4s2vv4$11p@Venus.mcs.com> References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960711140911.18813C-100000@hphalle7f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <4s2ugl$28k@crcnis3.unl.edu> Rex Dieter (rdieter@mathlab44.unl.edu) wrote: : In article : <Pine.HPP.3.91.960711140911.18813C-100000@hphalle7f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de : > Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> writes: : > I just found a hidden feature in Workspace Manager: : > : > Just hold the Control button or the Command Button and double click the : > NeXT icon in the Dock to mount/umount disks. I has the same effect as : > selecting 'check for disks' and 'eject disk' from the menus. I didn't : > test it with powered on devices after bootup. : This is not completely accuarate, at least not on our Intel-based : NEXTSTEP-3.3 machines. : Shift-DoubleClick Check for Disks : CNTL-DoubleClick Eject Disk : This IS quite a handy shortcut. I don't know if this has been mentioned, but ALT-click on the NeXT icon makes the dock toggle between always on top and able to be behind app windows. Peter Richardson
From: tjallen@theory1.physics.wisc.edu (Theodore J. Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Exiting Windowserver Problem Date: 11 Jul 1996 16:13:57 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <4s3985$2i7g@news.doit.wisc.edu> I was wondering if anyone has seen the following problem and has a solution. I have a Pentium system with Tyan motherboard (Titan III), Elsa Winner PRO/X 4 MB video, and an Adaptec 2940 UW. It is sometimes necessary to exit the windowserver after using Sequence.app because Sequence tends to fall behind and then system beeps start eating all the processor time. (Thanks to Scott Hess for figuring this out!) After typing exit in the login panel (which exits the windowserver) the login panel reappears as usual but continues "shaking its head" as if someone had typed a wrong user/password combination. It loops in this state until one holds down the backspace key, which stops it. This is regardless of whether I have been running Sequence or not. It even happens after exiting the windowserver after a clean reboot. I'm running 3.3 unpatched, by the way. Thanks for any help! -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu http://theory2.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Why shoud I buy 4.0? Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 21:12:24 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <4s3qvr$fan@news.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <4rrda4$jk3@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <4rui2f$13a4@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> macrae@geo.ucalgary.ca (Andrew MacRae) wrote: > That reminds me. Can the developer system now produce shared >libraries? (Or, more precisely, is it officially supported with >documentation) I did not find mention of it in the on-line information. >Maybe I missed it? Yup. Just use ProjectBuilder, and select a project type of 'Framework'. (A framework is a shared library, resources to support the library including icons, string tables, tool programs, header files, etc, all neatly packaged up under a single directory hierarchy.) The libraries built for a framework use NeXT's new dynamic shared library technology. Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Chris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help to upgrade from NS-2.1 to OS-4.0 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 13:59:59 -0700 Organization: Ice Station Zebra Message-ID: <bear-1107961359590001@macleec.llnl.gov> I have a NeXT Colorstation that is running NS-2.1 and Mathematica 2.0. I'm thinking about upgrading to OPENSTEP 4.0 and Mathematica 3.0 (should be out in Sept.). Can I just buy OPENSTEP 4.0 from NeXT for $199 on CD-ROM and install it onto the colorstation through a CD-ROM drive attached to the scsi port ? Do I have to re-format the entire harddisk or is there an upgrade application that will just change op system files ? Has anyone done this and are there any important things I should know before I do this ? Is a newer version of TeX/LaTex bundled in OS 4.0 ? Will Mathematica 2.0 run on OS-4.0 ? Conversely, can I just upgrade to Mathematica 3.0 and run it on NS-2.1 ? Thanks Chris bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu
From: bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Chris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mathematica still in NS Academic 3.x? 4.0? Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:13:07 -0700 Organization: Ice Station Zebra Message-ID: <bear-1107961413070001@macleec.llnl.gov> References: <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca> In article <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca>, "Dr. Alan Kelm" <akelm@cms.math.ca> wrote: > Can anyone tell me whether the academic bundle of NextStep 3.3 still > includes Mathematica? We have NS 2.1, and use Mathematica extensively. > Does anyone know whether it will be in the academic bundle of NS 4.0? > We'd like to upgrade, but not if we lose our most important piece of > software. > I don't think Mathematica is included in NS 3.3. But you should be able to upgrade your Mathematica copies through Wolfram for $150. All you need to do is give them a license number. Chris bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: which 2GB hard drive to use? Message-ID: <DuEBt6.32v@sounds.wa.com> Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <31DBA818.6714@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <4ribb2$5aa@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:34:17 GMT In article <4ribb2$5aa@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>, Marcel Weiher <marcel@cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote: >After my Fujitsu 1 gig (less than 5 years old, where's that #$%!@ >invoice?!) started flaking on me, I got a Seagate Hawk 2XL, >(simply because it was available quickly. > > [...] > >The write-cache on the drive was already enabled, but I was >not able to reformat to 1024 byte sectors using formatter 1.2. Did you try using my sdformat utility? It is a replacement for NeXT's sdform, except that it allows specification of sector size for drives which have that capability. Look for the program at: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/util/sdformat_1.3.MIHS.tar.gz If you tell me the model number for the Hawk 2XL, I can check my database to see if anyone has had success with 1024 byte sectors on your drive. -- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer, BSEE from NCSU NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting: Software Design and Development BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA <http://nwlink.com/cyberartists/brianw/brianw.html>
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] Why shoud I buy 4.0? Date: 11 Jul 1996 20:22:11 GMT Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA Message-ID: <4s3npj$gm4@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> References: <1996Jul1.171133.46687@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <01bb6cb3.8906f160$591643a4@everblue> Cc: everblue@ucla.edu Who is providing the academic sales these days, and what is the academic upgrade price? Can someone who owns it tell us what 3.3 features/binary apps no longer work? /ivo welch -- Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu ---------------------------- Ivo Welch.............. http://next.agsm.ucla.edu/ UCLA AGSM Finance...... http://www.agsm.ucla.edu/finance/ Int'l WWW/Email Dirctry http://next.agsm.ucla.edu/dir/ -- ---------------------------- --
From: rennich@lelepc4.stanford.edu (Steven Carl Rennich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help with Diamond Stealth 64 Date: 11 Jul 1996 22:07:12 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <4s3tug$e9t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> to the net-wizards, I have just purchased a PPro 200, supermicro mb, 64mb 2gbhd ... etc. Nextstep 3.3 is installed and seems to be running just fine. The problem is the Diamond Stealth 64 (2MB Vram) video board, 3000 series. I have not been able to get the video driver to display anything other than the default VGA mode. NextAnswers says "* Diamond has changed the PCI deviceID on their newer Stealth adapters. This will cause autodetection to fail, thus the NEXTSTEP driver will defualt to VGA display mode. Under NEXTSTEP 3.3, the workaround is to click Expert... while inspecting the driver in Configure.app, then modify the value of the Auto Detect setting to read 0x88d05333 0x88d15333 0x88f05333." This was done. Further, NextAnswers also states that "* Diamond has produced new versions of the Stealth64 which use different S3 video controllers. Version 3.31 (or later) of the DiamondStealth driver is needed to support these cards." I've downloaded version 3.32 of the driver (nextanswer 1939) and installed it under configure.app. However, after the new drivers were installed, the version, in the configure menu, still said v3.30? Is it supposed to do this? I thought I was following the compatibility guides correctly when I purchased this system. Can anybody spot what I'm doing wrong? The card works fine under Linux (when XF86Config is properly modified). Has diamond changed their device ids again? Any help is greatly appreciated. Any reccomendations on the most trouble-free card to buy if I end up returning this one? Thanks Steve Rennich rennich@leland.stanford.edu
From: Xavier.Nicolay@polytechnique.fr (Xavier NICOLAY) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Terminal.app => how to go on the las line Date: 11 Jul 1996 09:25:54 GMT Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Message-ID: <4s2hb2$97u@polytechnique.polytechnique.fr> With the Terminal Application, when i move the scroller (with Alt-Up) many times, i can't return Directly on the last line on the window. How can i do ? (On Openwin, i use Control-Return) -- Xavier NICOLAY Architecte Systeme UNIX Ecole Polytechnique Service Informatique et Telematique (SITX) 91128 PALAISEAU Cedex E-mail: Xavier.Nicolay@polytechnique.fr
From: overa@fire.sjsu.edu (overa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: HELP! f77 compiler keeps saying "permision denied"..?? Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:32:43 +0800 Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <overa-1107961632430001@physmq1.sjsu.edu> My compiler keeps saying "permision denied" when I want to compile a program or do anything. It is Absoft f77 fo the NeXT. Any ideas? Any help greatly appreciated. me :)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: HELP! f77 compiler keeps saying "permision denied"..?? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960711203738.133A-100000@charisma> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:40:45 -0400 References: <overa-1107961632430001@physmq1.sjsu.edu> To: overa <overa@fire.sjsu.edu> In-Reply-To: <overa-1107961632430001@physmq1.sjsu.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII PLEASE do not crosspost within the csn.* hierarchy, there are those of us who get the newsgroups by digest and have to download 4 copies of your same question... On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, overa wrote: > My compiler keeps saying "permision denied" when I want to compile a > program or do anything. > > It is Absoft f77 fo the NeXT. Any ideas? Have you checked the write permissions to the destination directories and the execute permissions of the binary itself? TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Now in infancy: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Terminal.app => how to go on the las line Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960711204348.133B-100000@charisma> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 20:46:04 -0400 References: <4s2hb2$97u@polytechnique.polytechnique.fr> To: Xavier NICOLAY <Xavier.Nicolay@polytechnique.fr> In-Reply-To: <4s2hb2$97u@polytechnique.polytechnique.fr> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 11 Jul 1996, Xavier NICOLAY wrote: > With the Terminal Application, when i move the scroller > (with Alt-Up) many times, i can't return Directly on the > last line on the window. How can i do ? > (On Openwin, i use Control-Return) [ this works for Stuart, I dunno about Terminal.app ] I simply hit the SPACE bar, which sends the cursor to the bottom of the Stuart window..... TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Now in infancy: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat
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From: ehutch@hypnos.norden1.com (E. Hutchinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Delphi/Contract--Long term Date: 12 Jul 1996 19:10:39 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Message-ID: <4s67vf$chv@tofu.alt.net> Programmer/analyst/developer NEXTSTEP-Commercial experience-2yrs+ Objective C-Commercial experience Contract-Long term Area-DC Area Must Be-US Citizen or Greencard To Be Considered---Fax resume or mail a hard copy. -- ehutch@norden1.com (419) 893-6367 [fax] Omni Search (419) 893-6334 [voice] 1310 Craig Maumee, Ohio 43537
From: Christof Marti <mrt@twi.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Have you gotten a Jaz drive to work with NeXTSTEP? Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 20:12:14 -0700 Organization: Technikum Winterthur Ingenieurschule Message-ID: <31E7140E.13CB@twi.ch> References: <31E5FFD7.75B6@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mario Pacheco <pacheco@ix.netcom.com> Mario Pacheco wrote: > ... > Jaz disk, problems arise when I try to format and initialize a Jaz > disk natively under NeXTSTEP. > ... > Here's the script as it transpired: > > /(2)% disk /dev/rsd1h > disk name: iomega jaz 1GB H.6204/0 > disk type: removable_rw_scsi > Disk utility > The JAZ Drive works perfectly with NEXTSTEP 3.3. The problem is, that the JAZ drive does not return its correct geometry (look at "/usr/etc/scsimodes /dev/rsd1a") or NEXTSTEP does not understand, what it delivers. You just have to add the entry below to your /etc/disktab file. (I dont know if it is totaly correct, but it works since 2 month with my Nextstation Turbo Color and on several Intels) We constructed it from the infos in the NextAnswers and some hardware infos we got from a configuration program on Windows. After rebooting the Station your JAZ is recognized and also the <Disk Initialize...> menu works. If you have problems to format an already formated DOS or Mac-Disk you have to do a lowlevel format (disk Format). Here is a working entry for /etc/disktab: (You may have to correct the entry to show your serial number.) # iomega jaz-Drive # # # Drive type: iomega jaz 1GB G.4409/2 (prototype Version) # Drive type: iomega jaz 1GB G.5411/1 (1st serie) # Drive type: iomega jaz 1GB G.5512/1 (my Drive) # Drive type: iomega jaz 1GB H.6204/0 (your Drive) # (you get this string with the disk command) # jaz|jaz1GB|jaz 1GB|iomega jaz 1GB H.6204/0:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#1021:nt#64:ns#32:ss#512:rm#5400:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:rw=a:\ :pa#0:sa#2090730:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#16384:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa Good luck! Christof
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From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mathematica still in NS Academic 3.x? 4.0? Date: 11 Jul 1996 23:42:02 -0700 Organization: The Turbocolor On My Desk Message-ID: <4s4s3q$r74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca> <bear-1107961413070001@macleec.llnl.gov> bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Chris) wrote: >In article <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca>, "Dr. Alan Kelm" ><akelm@cms.math.ca> wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me whether the academic bundle of NextStep 3.3 still >> includes Mathematica? We have NS 2.1, and use Mathematica extensively. >> Does anyone know whether it will be in the academic bundle of NS 4.0? >> We'd like to upgrade, but not if we lose our most important piece of >> software. >> > >I don't think Mathematica is included in NS 3.3. >But you should be able to upgrade your Mathematica copies through >Wolfram for $150. All you need to do is give them a license number. This is a problem here, the version I have has no license number, it just pops up a fax form. I would love to upgrade it though... Any suggestions? -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Hidden feature of Workspace Manager found Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960713004057.22177B-100000@charisma> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:42:06 -0400 References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960711140911.18813C-100000@hphalle7f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <4s51l1$8tp@isabella.object-factory.com> To: Dirk Olmes <dirk@object-factory.com> In-Reply-To: <4s51l1$8tp@isabella.object-factory.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Jul 1996, Dirk Olmes wrote: > Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> wrote: > > I just found a hidden feature in Workspace Manager: > > > > You don't need a keyboard shortcut for mounting/unmounting devices (such > > as floppy disks on Intel hardware). > > > > Just hold the Control button or the Command Button and double click the > > NeXT icon in the Dock to mount/umount disks. I has the same effect as > > selecting 'check for disks' and 'eject disk' from the menus. I didn't > > test it with powered on devices after bootup. > > ... But I tested it with a SCSI Disk, sorry it doesn't work ... It works great (ejecting) my SCSI EZ-drive..... My NeXThardware mounts/umounts automatically, so I can't say whether that would work for me or not... TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Now in infancy: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat
From: Yu-Wen Cheng Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mathematica still in NS Academic 3.x? 4.0? Date: 13 Jul 1996 10:43:35 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, Mathematics Message-ID: <4s7ukn$aes@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca> <bear-1107961413070001@macleec.llnl.gov> <4s4s3q$r74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Cc: rworne@primenet.com Robert Worne wrote: > bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Chris) wrote: > >In article <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca>, "Dr. Alan Kelm" > ><akelm@cms.math.ca> wrote: > > > >> Can anyone tell me whether the academic bundle of NextStep 3.3 still > >> includes Mathematica? We have NS 2.1, and use Mathematica extensively. > >> Does anyone know whether it will be in the academic bundle of NS 4.0? > >> We'd like to upgrade, but not if we lose our most important piece of > >> software. > >> > > > >I don't think Mathematica is included in NS 3.3. > >But you should be able to upgrade your Mathematica copies through > >Wolfram for $150. All you need to do is give them a license number. > > This is a problem here, the version I have has no license number, it just > pops up a fax form. I would love to upgrade it though... > Any suggestions? > > If you cat the file Mathematica.app/Install/mathpass, you should see your license number. Yuwen Cheng yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: leonvs@occam.com (Leon Michel von Stauber) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: alby-ppp permissions/ownership problem Date: 13 Jul 1996 12:54:52 GMT Organization: Zilker Internet Park, Inc. Distribution: usa Message-ID: <4s86as$pi4@hackberry.zilker.net> References: <4rssp4$78t@news.cloud9.net> Cc: vladk@escape.com In <4rssp4$78t@news.cloud9.net> Vladimir Knajtner wrote: > I compiled and installed alby-ppp long time ago and it has been working > fine with some minor modification of the launching scripts. The only > problem I've been having is that alby-ppp runs only if I kick it off as > root, otherwise I get message: > > ppp: ioctl(SIOCSIFFLAGS): Not owner > > which indicates that there is an ownership/permission problem. Changing > the ownership of ppp* to uucp.daemon didn't help. > > I've got PPPMeter source the other day and compiled it so it works under > NS3.0 on my machine, but now I wanna run the front end as myself ( != root I haven't used PPPMeter, but I use PPPMonitor to control my connection. In the PPPMonitor settings, you enter the pppup and pppdown commands as you would enter them on the command line. If this is how PPPMeter works, then there's a command line utility called "asroot", which allows you to execute commands as the superuser if you're in group wheel, without having to su. It should be on one of the archives. It's not as nice as sudo, but it works for me. ____________________________________________________________________ Leon von Stauber http://www.occam.com/leonvs/ Occam's Razor, Game Designer <leonvs@occam.com> PSW Technologies, System Admin <leonvs@pswtech.com> Zilker Internet Park, System Admin <leonvs@zilker.net> "We have not come to save you, but you will not die in vain!"
From: ehutch@hypnos.norden1.com (E. Hutchinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,misc.jobs.offered Subject: NEXTSTEP/Contract-DC Area Date: 13 Jul 1996 13:20:26 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Message-ID: <4s87qq$rvs@tofu.alt.net> Programmer/analyst/developer NEXTSTEP--------------------Commercial experience Objective C-----------------Commercial experience Oracle or Sybase------------A Plus Contract--------------------Long term Area------------------------Greater DC Area Must Be---------------------US Citizen or Greencard To Be Considered------------Fax resume or mail a hard copy resume. -- ehutch@norden1.com (419) 893-6367 [fax] Omni Search (419) 893-6334 [voice] 1310 Craig Maumee, Ohio 43537
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Mathematica still in NS Academic 3.x? 4.0? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960713093901.28180A-100000@charisma> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 09:40:16 -0400 References: <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca> <bear-1107961413070001@macleec.llnl.gov> <4s4s3q$r74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4s7ukn$aes@news.ccit.arizona.edu> To: bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu In-Reply-To: <4s7ukn$aes@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can someone tell me who to contact to upgrade my version of Mathematica? I heard the name "Wolfam" or something like that, but it didn't mean anything to me... Email/phone # anyone? TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Now in infancy: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat
From: gerald@kurt.in-berlin.de (Gerald Erdmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: HELP! f77 compiler keeps saying "permision denied"..?? Date: 12 Jul 1996 20:49:55 GMT Organization: Private NEXTSTEP site, Germany Message-ID: <4s6dpj$q8v@mimi.in-berlin.de> References: <overa-1107961632430001@physmq1.sjsu.edu> Cc: overa@fire.sjsu.edu In <overa-1107961632430001@physmq1.sjsu.edu> overa wrote: > My compiler keeps saying "permision denied" when I want to compile a > program or do anything. > > It is Absoft f77 fo the NeXT. Any ideas? Sounds like file permission problems? Do you have write permissions in your project folder? Gerald -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | GERALD ERDMANN | email: gerald @ kurt.in-berlin.de (NeXTmail welcome) | voice: +49 30 397 31 400 (Germany - Berlin) | crypt: pgp2 public key available |
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mathematica still in NS Academic 3.x? 4.0? Date: 13 Jul 1996 13:21:01 -0700 Organization: The Turbocolor On My Desk Message-ID: <4s90fd$qea@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca> <bear-1107961413070001@macleec.llnl.gov> <4s4s3q$r74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4s7ukn$aes@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Yu-Wen Cheng wrote: > >If you cat the file Mathematica.app/Install/mathpass, you should see your >license number. > >Yuwen Cheng >yucheng@math.arizona.edu > Here is my directory structure, any clues? chaos#/NextApps/Mathematica.app: ls -R * ApplicationResources.mb MathematicaHelp.ma PrefsFile.mb Mathematica* MathematicaHelp.mb Kernel: InitFiles/ NeXT/ math* mathremote* MathTalk/ Utilities/ mathnext* Kernel/InitFiles: FileGraphics.m README Terminal.m init.m PSDirect.m Tek.m end.m Kernel/MathTalk: control* leftcrc* leftend* rightcrc* rightend* twoway* Kernel/NeXT: StartUp/ mathexe* Kernel/NeXT/StartUp: Attributes.m IntegralTables.m ValueQ.m Digits.m InverseFunctions.m info.m Edit.m LinearProgramming.m msg.m Elliptic.m README sysinit.m Formats.m RunThrough.m GroebnerBasis.m Series.m Kernel/Utilities: mathlink.c mathlink.h mdefs.h psfix* tekps* ttyps* -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199607132027.QAA04276@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 96 16:27:08 -0400 Subject: Wanted: Tidbits of Information Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Hiya As you may know, I've setup an auto-responder to distribute information about the NeXT computer. I've already got information about cleaning the cube and/or OD, fixing a printer which won't print the whole way, replacement monitors, a swapfile/swapdisk FAQ, and so on. I just received the information about cleaning the cube/optical disk from someone, and it made me think that there might be some other tidbits of information out there stored on random harddrives.... If you have any (not stuff from NeXTAnswers), please let me know. If you'd like to know more about what I already have, send me a message with the SUBJECT of: send-ascii info You can get a complete list of the files available by sending a message with the subject send_current_list Thanks! TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Now in infancy: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 4.0 Screenshot anyone? Date: 14 Jul 1996 03:08:06 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4s9oam$pai@news.next.com> References: <01bb6cb1.4a0d08c0$461543a4@everblue> "Lullaby" <everblue@ucla.edu> writes > Not the one from Peanuts archive--no artist's renditions, please. If > anyone has the ACTUAL screenshots of NS 4.0 for Mach, please post it > or mail it to me! If you've seen NEXTSTEP 3.2 or later, that's about right. The much-discussed radical UI overhaul didn't make it into OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach. A shame, really - once you got used to the shelf, it was quite nice, actually... -- Mark Bessey NeXT Software, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Macintosh Connectivity in 4.0 ? Date: 13 Jul 1996 08:40:26 GMT Organization: Navigator Message-ID: <4s7ndq$ddo@marsu.navigator.schwaben.com> References: <4s5e7r$8ue@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: robert In <4s5e7r$8ue@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Robert Lutwak wrote: > Hi. > > I just got an advertisement from Optimal Object which suggests that > 4.0 supports "Macintosh and PC Connectivity." > > Is AppleTalk back ? > > Does it work (reliably) now ? > > Or is this just a new flavor of "well, you can buy it from Insignia > and Quix ?" Maybe they mean "Openstep 4.0 for WinNT Server", which has Appletalk support :-) -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.neworbit.de/navigator/
From: steve@jojo.bio.uci.edu (Steven Frank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Sendmail configure, standalone connected via ISP Date: 14 Jul 1996 16:54:00 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <4sb8n8$bs3@news.service.uci.edu> I am trying to setup outgoing email. I have a standalone machine that occasionally connects by PPP via and Internet Service Provider. I have sendmail 8.7.5 installed and mail partly works. But this must be a common setup, so rather than debug the system, would people be willing to share their setup? Some specific questions: 1. What is the Fully Qualified Domain Name (FQDN) for this connection type? At present I connect through my University, which assigns host names such as dialup9017.slip.uci.edu via PPP, but of course the number changes on each connection. 2. Besides sendmail, this hostname assignment causes a problem with NetInfo and lookups. When not connected, NetInfo searchs "localhost" for the database, which is instaneous. But when connected, NetInfo searches the PPP assigned hostname, eg, dialup9017.slip.uci.edu, so all lookups go out the network and then find their way back, which can be very slow (this is my guess for why the lookup is slow). 3. At present, my outgoing gateway is on another domain, the ibm.net gateway. 4. What is the .mc file? I would like to be able to deliver local mail locally, and use the user database to map local names to the mail names on the ISP system. I have masquerading working ok, but outgoing names are not being mapped by the userdb. My guess is that local names first get written as name@localhost, which is good for signalling local delivery, but then they are not rewritten. Steve Frank safrank@uci.edu -- -------------------------------------------------- Steven Frank | Dept. of Ecology and | Tel: 714-824-2244 Evolutionary Biology | Fax: 714-824-2181
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Sendmail configure, standalone connected via ISP Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960714132033.28384C-100000@charisma> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 13:22:37 -0400 References: <4sb8n8$bs3@news.service.uci.edu> To: safrank@uci.edu In-Reply-To: <4sb8n8$bs3@news.service.uci.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The absolute best thing to do is check out: http://brise.ere.umontreal.ca/~magnan/Sendmail/ There are a set of instructions there that even a sendmail-idiot (like me :-) can use to setup a working sendmail in 20 minutes. TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Now in infancy: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat
From: nickel@widget.ecn.purdue.edu (David A Nickel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: How to run PPP on 3.0 from standalone host? Date: 14 Jul 1996 21:07:09 GMT Organization: Purdue University, W. Lafayette, IN Message-ID: <4sbnht$hsl@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I'm trying to set up a PPP link between my NeXTStation running 3.0 at home (using Alby ppp) and a Solaris machine running SLIRP at work. My current problem is that, by the time I get to the point in rc.local where I start up ppp, the network is down (as evidenced by ppp: write: Network is down). I guess this happens before rc.boot begins, where mach says "The network is disabled or your computer isn't connected to it." My questions are: What decides "the network is disabled ..." and how? Is this the point at which the network is made "down" ? How might I "up" the network (either restart it or trick it into not deciding the network is down in the first place) Please post (e-mail is OK, but a search through DejaNews indicates that this is a popular, but unanswered question). Thanks, Dave Nickel nickel@ecn.purdue.edu
From: tal@cs.caltech.edu (Tal Lancaster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 4.0 Shipping was OpenStep Shipping? Date: 14 Jul 1996 22:52:03 GMT Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Message-ID: <4sbtmj$p16@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <4s4luu$bsu@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Cc: tal@cs.caltech.edu In <4s4luu$bsu@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Tal Lancaster wrote: > Is OpenStep officially shipping? From all of the posts about it lately, it > sounds like it is. Am I right that 3.3 users should be getting? Should I be > bugging NeXT, yet? > > Tal > Hmm... I guess I wasn't thinking clearly. What I wanted to know , is NeXTSTEP 4.0 officially shipping? -- *********************************************************************** Tal Lancaster - tal@cs.caltech.edu (NeXTSTEP, MIME, and regular Email The RenderMan Repository -- http://pete.cs.caltech.edu/RMR/ ************************************************************************
From: wjabi@umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Did NeXT OpenStepify its Apps? Date: 15 Jul 1996 01:32:30 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Message-ID: <4sc73e$lli@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/ For OpenStep 4.0 for Mach OS: Did NeXT convert the source code of their applications (WorkSpace, Librarian, NeXTMail, Edit, Terminal etc..) to comply with OpenStep? or, like other 3.3 applications, they just work under OpenStep 4.0 because of the included 3.3 libraries? -- Wassim M. Jabi Doctoral Program in Architecture University of Michigan 2000 Bonisteel Blvd Ann Arbor, MI 48109-2069 wjabi@umich.edu (Text/MIME/NeXTMail) http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wjabi/
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 15 Jul 1996 04:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4scgke$s91@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. 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From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mathematica still in NS Academic 3.x? 4.0? Date: 15 Jul 1996 10:57:21 GMT Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland Message-ID: <4sd86h$l1l@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca> <bear-1107961413070001@macleec.llnl.gov> <4s4s3q$r74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4s7ukn$aes@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.94.960713093901.28180A-100000@charisma> Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@nerc.com) wrote: > Can someone tell me who to contact to upgrade my version of > Mathematica? I heard the name "Wolfam" or something like that, but it > didn't mean anything to me... > Email/phone # anyone? Just check out www.wolfram.com. Best wishes, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help with Diamond Stealth 64 Date: 15 Jul 1996 07:47:32 -0400 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <4sdb4k$eh5@papoose.quick.com> References: <4s3tug$e9t@nntp.stanford.edu> In article <4s3tug$e9t@nntp.stanford.edu>, Steven Carl Rennich <rennich@lelepc4.stanford.edu> wrote: >to the net-wizards, >Any reccomendations on the most trouble-free card to buy if I end up >returning this one? If you decide to ditch the Diamond, then buy a Matrox MGA Millenium. It has very good driver support, and has not only the best price/performance ratio, but also a good price. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished.
From: kjell@bart (Kjell Nilsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Icon list Date: 15 Jul 1996 09:15:13 GMT Organization: Taide Net Message-ID: <4sd271$adm@parabol.taide.net> Hi Does anybody know if the next-icon maillist still exists? Last time I heard about it was sometimes winter 95. It was the managed by GUN. -- -- Kjell Nilsson - Member of Swedish Object Guild OOPS art HB, Phone +46-31-499713, Fax +46-31-474594 kjell@oops.se - NeXTMail, Mime welcome
From: moellney@michi.bota.uni-bonn.de (Michael Moellney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: OPENSTEP 4.0 for NT academic?? Date: 15 Jul 1996 14:40:01 GMT Organization: RHRZ - Univerity of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <4sdl81$htq@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Hi there! Checking some www-sites that sell academic versions of OPENSTEP I realized, that there is no OPENSTEP 4.0 for WinNT academic offer. OK there isn't a developer part up to now, but perhaps some academic users want to transfer their NS 3.3 to OS 4.0 and want to check it on WinNT??? Will there be a academic offer when OS 4.0 NT has a developer part? And a second qestion: Is NetInfo part of Openstep? We want to build a workstation-cluster of WinNT and Mach computers. But how to organize the Users... use a WinNT server for the Windows part and use NetInfo for the Mach-part... no good solution. What do you think. bye, Michael
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Academic pricing for OPENSTEP/NT ? Date: 15 Jul 1996 14:41:38 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <4sdlb2$t63@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> After all this discussion about academic pricing for NEXTSTEP 4.0, has anybody heard something about an academic bundle for OPENSTEP/NT ? OSNT might be a nice a gimmick for students who want to do their homework with nice-priced shrink-wrapped apps and still want to sniff into the world of living objects, therefore I'm hoping to see a reasonable academic price. Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact RhiNO | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 54-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 54-8312 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail, MIME) |
From: bear@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu (Chris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <bear-1507960901500001@macleec.llnl.gov> Control: cancel <bear-1507960901500001@macleec.llnl.gov> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 09:01:59 -0700 Organization: Ice Station Zebra Message-ID: <bear-1507960901590001@macleec.llnl.gov> cancel <bear-1507960901500001@macleec.llnl.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: franc@xenicos.fdn.fr (Francois BIENTZ) Subject: Re: HELP: Pentium 166MHz vs. Sun SparcStation 5 Message-ID: <1996Jul12.215054.841@xenicos.fdn.fr> Keywords: SUN SS10 Sparc Bench Sender: franc@xenicos.fdn.fr Organization: Individual. References: <4rdce7$r4@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 21:50:54 GMT In article <4rdce7$r4@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) writes: > ab@purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) wrote: > > I'd imagine you can get more raw CPU for your buck from a > > Pentium, but I don't know. My SPARC 5/85 comes in at about > > 81.7 MIPS on NWBench (about 5 times a black NeXT). I'd > > guess a 110 is nearly linearly faster. How's a Pentium do? > > A Pentium-133 machine has about 120.5 VAX-MIPS on NXBench. A Pentium-166 > should be 20 percent faster. > > Marcel > > --- A SPARC 10/75 has 230 VAX-MIPS on NXBench.How s a SPARC 20 ? --- Francois BIENTZ Email: franc@xenicos.fdn.fr 2 rue de Perigueux ap135 F-33 700 Merignac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Did NeXT OpenStepify its Apps? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DuLC2x.8Kq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:23:21 GMT References: <4sc73e$lli@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <4sc73e$lli@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, Wassim M. Jabi <wjabi@umich.edu> wrote: >For OpenStep 4.0 for Mach OS: Did NeXT convert the source code of >their applications (WorkSpace, Librarian, NeXTMail, Edit, Terminal >etc..) to comply with OpenStep? or, like other 3.3 applications, they >just work under OpenStep 4.0 because of the included 3.3 libraries? From a posting a while ago, I gather that none of these apps have been OpenStepified. Librarian is gone completely, since there's no more IndexingKit (but the MiscKit is taking care of that.) At least, I think Librarian is gone. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Icon list Date: 15 Jul 1996 22:38:21 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-j-31.usc.edu Message-ID: <4seh8t$6le@usc.edu> References: <4sd271$adm@parabol.taide.net> Cc: kjell@bart In <4sd271$adm@parabol.taide.net> Kjell Nilsson wrote: > > Hi > Does anybody know if the next-icon maillist still exists? Last time I heard > about it was sometimes winter 95. It was the managed by GUN. I would think Carl Edman's EnhanceMail.bundle makes such a list obsolete. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman reichman@usc.edu USC-CNTV NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k NeXTMAIL & MIME welcome =============================================================== PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" --------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Did NeXT OpenStepify its Apps? Date: 15 Jul 1996 23:01:38 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <4seiki$fav@news.onramp.net> References: <4sc73e$lli@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <DuLC2x.8Kq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Cc: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca In <DuLC2x.8Kq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote: > In article <4sc73e$lli@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, > Wassim M. Jabi <wjabi@umich.edu> wrote: > >For OpenStep 4.0 for Mach OS: Did NeXT convert the source code of > >their applications (WorkSpace, Librarian, NeXTMail, Edit, Terminal > >etc..) to comply with OpenStep? or, like other 3.3 applications, they > >just work under OpenStep 4.0 because of the included 3.3 libraries? Only the dev tools are on OpenStep 4.0 for NT. I don't know if Sun has the licence for these other apps or what we can expect from OpenStep for Solaris though. Steve -- Remaining wild Tigers:<6K, BlackRhino:<2K GiantPanda:<1K [envirolink.org] Human population in 1900: 1.5 billion, in 1996: 5.7 billion. [census.gov]
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Icon list Date: 15 Jul 1996 18:25:01 -0700 Organization: The Turbocolor On My Desk Message-ID: <4ser1d$deu@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4sd271$adm@parabol.taide.net> <4seh8t$6le@usc.edu> reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote: >In <4sd271$adm@parabol.taide.net> Kjell Nilsson wrote: >> >> Hi >> Does anybody know if the next-icon maillist still exists? Last time I heard >> about it was sometimes winter 95. It was the managed by GUN. > >I would think Carl Edman's EnhanceMail.bundle makes such a list obsolete. > The list I think he is referring to is the list with replacement icons for NeXT apps/directories. This is not the list for people .tiffs This group really had some cool icons, definitely worth the 5MB download from peak. They are located here if anyone's interested: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/graphics/next-icon@gun.com-1Q95.tar.gz -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Icon list Date: 16 Jul 1996 03:34:48 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-f-27.usc.edu Message-ID: <4sf2ko$co7@usc.edu> References: <4sd271$adm@parabol.taide.net> <4seh8t$6le@usc.edu> <4ser1d$deu@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Cc: rworne@primenet.com Ooops.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hans@onevision.de(Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: Macintosh Connectivity in 4.0 ? Message-ID: <DuLEwq.1BG@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <4s5e7r$8ue@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:24:26 GMT In article <4s5e7r$8ue@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> robert (Robert Lutwak) writes: > Hi. > > I just got an advertisement from Optimal Object which suggests that > 4.0 supports "Macintosh and PC Connectivity." > > Is AppleTalk back ? > > Does it work (reliably) now ? > > Or is this just a new flavor of "well, you can buy it from Insignia > and Quix ?" > That is marketing: "It supports" doesn t mean "It provides"... But: It provides PC-Connectivity. SAMBA is part of the package! -- ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg (NeXTMail and MIME welcome) Germany
From: Ed DeBolt <ed@hanifen.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anyone get NS Intel to run on a Gateway Solo? Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:23:58 -0700 Organization: Hanifen Imhoff Message-ID: <31EB276E.7796@hanifen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I understand there is a video driver for the chips & technology video laptop. Has anyone tried the Gateway solo. TIA ed@hanifen.com
From: hbarke@dsms.com (harold barker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for typing tutor Date: 16 Jul 1996 05:52:08 GMT Organization: FirePower Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <4sfam8$3do@enquirer.firepower.com> Any one know of a typing tutor program for black NS3.3? If so please email me the url, thanks --- Work MIME/NeXT Mail accepted | Home MIME/NeXT Mail accepted hbarker@firepower.com | hbarker@dsms.com |
From: shill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anyone get NS Intel to run on a Gateway Solo? Date: 16 Jul 1996 07:33:23 GMT Organization: University of Lausanne CH (Switzerland) Message-ID: <4sfgk3$fm3@cisun2000.unil.ch> References: <31EB276E.7796@hanifen.com> Ed DeBolt <ed@hanifen.com> wrote: > I understand there is a video driver for the chips & technology video > laptop. Has anyone tried the Gateway solo. > > TIA > > ed@hanifen.com Yes it works great. I beta-tested Eric Brown's excellent video driver on a Gateway Solo 120. The NeXT mouse driver works perfectly with the touchpad (better than Microsoft's driver). UNDOCUMENTED AMAZING TIDBIT: The really amazing thing is that, although the machine should only be capable of 256 colors, with Eric's driver one can run NEXTSTEP with 65k colors at 800x600. It works with NO problem!
From: dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de (David A. Coyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Academic pricing for OPENSTEP/NT ? Date: 16 Jul 1996 07:49:34 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <4sfhie$eg8@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <4sdlb2$t63@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> In article <4sdlb2$t63@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) writes: > After all this discussion about academic pricing for NEXTSTEP 4.0, has > anybody heard something about an academic bundle for OPENSTEP/NT ? > > OSNT might be a nice a gimmick for students who want to do their > homework with nice-priced shrink-wrapped apps and still want to sniff > into the world of living objects, therefore I'm hoping to see a > reasonable academic price. > Well, Gregor: since the developer version of OStep for NT isn't out yet, there can't be an academic bundle. Remember, NeXT still treats its edu customers right. Don't hint to them that they can get away with changing that! ;-) Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------ David A. Coyle Father of Annealer.app. Fission-track research. Ask for my PGP public key. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Max-Planck-Institut f r Kernphysik Heidelberg, Germany dcoyle@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de dcoyle@weizen.rt.schwaben.de ------------------------------------------------------------------ Microsoft - We put the "backwards" into backwards compatibility
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Have you gotten a Jaz drive to work with NeXTSTEP? Date: 16 Jul 1996 07:55:42 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <4sfhtu$gfd@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <31E5FFD7.75B6@ix.netcom.com> I think the best way to fix that problem is to do the following. At least it did work on my system (I do not guarantee that this will work on any other system). If someone in the know could confirm the procedure I'd be grateful: Login as root and type the following command: disk -q /dev/rsd1a (or rsdXa with X beeing the right number for your jaz drive) Then use the resulting name to make an entry to /etc/disktab, where the first entry in the first line is the string you got as a result of the previous command. You need to do this, since different revisions of the jaz drive will respond with a different string and the disk command uses just this string as a pointer to the correct disktab entry. My disktab entry for the jaz drive looks like this (the other strings on the first line are precaution, in case disk uses a truncated version of the string to find the correct entry). iomega jaz 1GB H.6204/0|iomega jaz 1GB H.62|iomega jaz 1GB|iomega jaz:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#3624:nt#4:ns#144:ss#512:rm#5394:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#2087104:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: or alternatively the entry from Nextanswers: iomega jaz 1GB H.6204/0|iomega jaz 1GB H.62|iomega jaz 1GB|iomega jaz:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#3584:nt#4:ns#72:ss#1024:rm#5400:\ :fp#160:bp#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a\ :pa#0:sa#1032192:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: [comment: my disktab is changed from the one NeXT supplies in NextAnswers, by using more of the available space. I took whatever information was given by scsimodes on the jaz drive to build it. (The reply of the jaz drive was a bit broken, and I guessed and calculated to arrive at the above numbers). Again I'd be grateful for some confirmation by people who have more information on the layout of the jaz drive] If you have added this entry to the disktab, you can use the disk command to low-level format your drive: disk -F /dev/rsdXa and initialize your drive: disk -h yourhost -l yourdisk -i /dev/rsd1a or alternatively (after a disk -F /dev/rsdXa command) use BuildDisk on the resulting drive. (You may have to chekc on the correct installation of the Drivers before booting off the newly installed jaz cartridge). Hope that helps, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: Yu-Wen Cheng Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mathematica still in NS Academic 3.x? 4.0? Date: 16 Jul 1996 07:58:17 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, Mathematics Message-ID: <4sfi2p$o4q@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca> <bear-1107961413070001@macleec.llnl.gov> <4s4s3q$r74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4s7ukn$aes@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <4s90fd$qea@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Cc: rworne@primenet.com Hmm, you have a total different directory structure with mine. My version is 2.2. What is yours? Robert Worne wrote: > Yu-Wen Cheng wrote: > > > >If you cat the file Mathematica.app/Install/mathpass, you should see your > >license number. > > > >Yuwen Cheng > >yucheng@math.arizona.edu > > > > Here is my directory structure, any clues? > > chaos#/NextApps/Mathematica.app: ls -R * > ApplicationResources.mb MathematicaHelp.ma PrefsFile.mb > Mathematica* MathematicaHelp.mb > > Kernel: > InitFiles/ NeXT/ math* mathremote* > MathTalk/ Utilities/ mathnext* > > Kernel/InitFiles: > FileGraphics.m README Terminal.m init.m > PSDirect.m Tek.m end.m > > Kernel/MathTalk: > control* leftcrc* leftend* rightcrc* rightend* twoway* > > Kernel/NeXT: > StartUp/ mathexe* > > Kernel/NeXT/StartUp: > Attributes.m IntegralTables.m ValueQ.m > Digits.m InverseFunctions.m info.m > Edit.m LinearProgramming.m msg.m > Elliptic.m README sysinit.m > Formats.m RunThrough.m > GroebnerBasis.m Series.m > > Kernel/Utilities: > mathlink.c mathlink.h mdefs.h psfix* tekps* ttyps* > > >
From: kjell@bart (Kjell Nilsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Icon list Date: 16 Jul 1996 07:58:35 GMT Organization: Taide Net Message-ID: <4sfi3b$d40@parabol.taide.net> References: <4sd271$adm@parabol.taide.net> <4seh8t$6le@usc.edu> Cc: reichman@usc.edu In <4seh8t$6le@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote: > In <4sd271$adm@parabol.taide.net> Kjell Nilsson wrote: > > > > Hi > > Does anybody know if the next-icon maillist still exists? Last time I heard > > about it was sometimes winter 95. It was the managed by GUN. > > I would think Carl Edman's EnhanceMail.bundle makes such a list obsolete. Well if you only did see the pictures of people in the NeXT community in this list you may be right. But there was a lot more icons in various categories in this list. -- -- Kjell Nilsson - Member of Swedish Object Guild OOPS art HB, Phone +46-31-499713, Fax +46-31-474594 kjell@oops.se - NeXTMail, Mime welcome
From: wgaboria@iut-lr.univ-lr.fr (wilfrid Gaboriaud) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: outer join Date: 16 Jul 1996 11:10:18 GMT Organization: Universite de La Rochelle Message-ID: <4sftaq$haf@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> I have found the source of the error but has someone a solution ? I have an entity witch contains 2 relationship : the first is an innerJoin the second an LeftOuterJoin so the thrue Query is : SELECT t0.*, t1.field1, t2.field2 FROM table0 t0, table1 t1, OUTER(table2 t2) WHERE (t0.aField = t1.theKey AND t0.aField = t2.theKey) But EOMODELER generate the folowing query : SELECT t0.*, t1.field1, t2.field2 FROM OUTER table0 t0, table1 t1, table2 t2 WHERE (t0.aField = t1.theKey AND t0.aField = t2.theKey) Wilfrid. ====================== wgaboria@iut-lr.univ-lr.fr Service Informatique IUT La Rochelle France
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Looking for typing tutor Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.94.960716151647.13042B-100000@charisma> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 15:20:08 -0400 References: <4sfam8$3do@enquirer.firepower.com> To: harold barker <hbarke@dsms.com> In-Reply-To: <4sfam8$3do@enquirer.firepower.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Science/education/Typing_Arcade.1.00.N.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Science/education/Typing_Arcade.README ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Science/education/Typing_Arcade_EnglishGerman.1.00.NI.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Science/education/Typing_Arcade_EnglishGerman.README ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/productivity/TypingCzar.FAT.README ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/productivity/TypingCzar.FAT.compressed ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/games/TypingCzar.README.rtf ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/games/TypingCzar.app.compressed ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/sources/games/Typing_Arcade.README ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/sources/games/Typing_Arcade.tar.Z ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/productivity/TypingCzar.FAT.README ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/productivity/TypingCzar.FAT.compressed ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/games/TypingCzar.README.rtf ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/games/TypingCzar.app.compressed TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> NeXTMail adored! (MIME/SUN also accepted) NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info Now in infancy: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat On 16 Jul 1996, harold barker wrote: > Any one know of a typing tutor program for black NS3.3? > If so please email me the url, thanks > > --- > Work MIME/NeXT Mail accepted | Home MIME/NeXT Mail accepted > hbarker@firepower.com | hbarker@dsms.com > | > > >
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@cps.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anybody found a good solution to the TeX/dvips screen display problem? Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:39:23 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <31EC1A1B.D75@cps.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Awhile back, many messages were exchanged regarding the poor screen display quality of TeX documents that were converted to postscript via dvips. Was a method ever found to convert a TeX dvi document to something that renders well using the built in postscript viewer? Thanks in advance for any thoughts. Regards, Steve -- perkins@cps.msu.edu
From: Robert La Ferla <rdl@cais.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 4.0 Screenshot anyone? Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 23:25:25 -0400 Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet <info@cais.com> Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.93.960716232055.12521B-100000@cais3.cais.com> References: <01bb6cb1.4a0d08c0$461543a4@everblue> <4s9oam$pai@news.next.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4s9oam$pai@news.next.com> And what a shame it is that it never saw the light of day. The world will never know how cool it really was. :-( The shelf was by far the best but there was a lot more... Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP Consultant On 14 Jul 1996, Mark Bessey wrote: > "Lullaby" <everblue@ucla.edu> writes > > Not the one from Peanuts archive--no artist's renditions, please. If > > anyone has the ACTUAL screenshots of NS 4.0 for Mach, please post it > > or mail it to me! > > If you've seen NEXTSTEP 3.2 or later, that's about right. The > much-discussed radical UI overhaul didn't make it into OPENSTEP 4.0 for > Mach. > > A shame, really - once you got used to the shelf, it was quite nice, > actually... > -- > Mark Bessey > NeXT Software, Inc > Software Quality Assurance > -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <-- > >
From: indy@beckman.uiuc.edu (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 4.0 Screenshot anyone? Date: 17 Jul 1996 03:22:31 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <4shm9n$i2i@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <01bb6cb1.4a0d08c0$461543a4@everblue> <4s9oam$pai@news.next.com> Mark Bessey (Mark_Bessey@next.com) wrote: : "Lullaby" <everblue@ucla.edu> writes : > Not the one from Peanuts archive--no artist's renditions, please. If : > anyone has the ACTUAL screenshots of NS 4.0 for Mach, please post it : > or mail it to me! : If you've seen NEXTSTEP 3.2 or later, that's about right. The : much-discussed radical UI overhaul didn't make it into OPENSTEP 4.0 for : Mach. : A shame, really - once you got used to the shelf, it was quite nice, : actually... Hmmm...I suppose a plea for late-night charity in the form of absent-mindedly leaving a file or two on ftp.next.com is too much to hope for? (0.5 :-») -- Beckman Institute | S T E V E W E I N T Z | indy@shout.net Visualization Facility |------------------------------| NeXTMail preferred indy@.uiuc.edu | Gerunding adverbly, | 217.344.5303 217.244.3074 | Noun verbed. |
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mathematica still in NS Academic 3.x? 4.0? Date: 16 Jul 1996 21:19:01 -0700 Organization: The Turbocolor On My Desk Message-ID: <4shpjl$fgq@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <31DC0EBE.41C6@cms.math.ca> <bear-1107961413070001@macleec.llnl.gov> <4s4s3q$r74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4s7ukn$aes@news.ccit.arizona.edu> <4s90fd$qea@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4sfi2p$o4q@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Yu-Wen Cheng wrote: >Hmm, you have a total different directory structure with mine. My version is >2.2. What is yours? > Version 1.0, unfortunately, it was obtained right before the 2.0 release which, from what I heard, was a free upgrade for EDU, but alas, it was through NeXT, and they don't deal with it anymore. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody found a good solution to the TeX/dvips screen display problem? Date: 17 Jul 1996 05:46:38 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <slrn4uov45.nkt.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> References: <31EC1A1B.D75@cps.msu.edu> In article <31EC1A1B.D75@cps.msu.edu>, Stephen J. Perkins wrote: >Awhile back, many messages were exchanged regarding the poor >screen display quality of TeX documents that were converted >to postscript via dvips. Was a method ever found to convert >a TeX dvi document to something that renders well using the >built in postscript viewer? It's your choice: install the BaKoMa fonts (I posted a how-to here a while ago, but I don't know where it's gone to...), or get the "grey" TeXview from blah.zarquon.blah (the NeXT teTeX site in Germany). The grey does look very nice although it is a bit slower... Paul -- _____________________________________________________________________ Paul Brown Grad student, UCB mathematics (510)-843-7817 pbrown@math.berkeley.edu http://math.berkeley.edu/~pbrown/ NeXTmail preferred. _____________________________________________________________________
From: ampriasm@students.wisc.edu (Andrew M. Priasmoro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Mouse Problem. Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:37:42 -0400 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Message-ID: <ampriasm-1707960037420001@f180-175.net.wisc.edu> Hi, Does anyone have pointers how to accelerate NeXT Mouse? My NeXT mouse is so slow compared to my PC mouse even I have already set my NeXT Mouse to the fastest speed in preference. Thanks. Andrew. -- Andrew Priasmoro University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: ampriasm@students.wisc.edu (Andrew M. Priasmoro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Config.app Problem on Black Hardware. Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 01:01:19 -0400 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Message-ID: <ampriasm-1707960101190001@f180-175.net.wisc.edu> Hi, Could anyone tell me what to do if my Config.app icon is in question mark? When I tried to execute it, It said that the application is damage. Is there any way to fix this without having to reinstall the OS? Thanks. Andrew. -- Andrew Priasmoro University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: paul@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Mouse Problem. Date: 17 Jul 1996 09:14:24 GMT Organization: P & L Systems, Ltd. Message-ID: <4siatg$g3r@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <ampriasm-1707960037420001@f180-175.net.wisc.edu> Cc: ampriasm@students.wisc.edu In <ampriasm-1707960037420001@f180-175.net.wisc.edu> Andrew M. Priasmoro wrote: > Does anyone have pointers how to accelerate NeXT Mouse? My NeXT mouse is so > slow compared to my PC mouse even I have already set my NeXT Mouse to the > fastest speed in preference. Thanks. If you use NeXTSTEP/Intel (as opposed to for NeXT hardware), Configure.app also has a mouse adjuster. You can also use the MouseScaling dwrite to get better control than Preferences gives you. Most mouse speed problems are because people aren't accustomed to the feel of NeXT's accelerated mouse. Move it faster, and it leaps across the screen. IMHO, this is much better for large displays than the traditional Windows flat mouse approach. If you are interested, there is a commercial (< $20) utility called MouseMagic which lets you configure all of this with much finer degree of control. It is on ftp://next-ftp.peak.org, but some posters don't like it there :-). The home site is: http://www.plsys.co.uk/products/MouseMagic.Announce.htmld/index.html, download from ftp://ftp.plsys.co.uk/pub/Products/MouseMagic/MouseMagic.pkg.tar.gz. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) paul@plsys.co.uk Tel: (01494)432422 P & L Systems Fax: (01494)432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: ehutch@hypnos.norden1.com (E. Hutchinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,misc.jobs.contract Subject: NEXTSTEP/Contract DC Area Date: 17 Jul 1996 13:50:59 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Message-ID: <4sir44$d8n@tofu.alt.net> Programmer/analyst/developer NEXTSTEP--------------------Commercial experience Objective C-----------------Commercial experience EOF-------------------------A Plus Sybase or Oracle------------A Plus Contract--------------------Long term Area------------------------Greater DC Area To Be Considered------------Fax resume or mail a hard copy. -- ehutch@norden1.com (419) 893-6367 [fax] Omni Search (419) 893-6334 [voice] 1310 Craig Maumee, Ohio 43537
From: dmedhi@cstp.umkc.edu (Deep Medhi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Advise on getting an Intel-based machine to rung NEXTSTEP Date: 17 Jul 1996 16:01:34 GMT Organization: University of Missouri at Kansas City GO ROOS! Message-ID: <4sj2ou$9rd@ns2.umkc.edu> As the subject says, I am looking at getting an Intel-pentium machine to run NEXTSTEP. I have read NeXT's web pages on Tested Compatible System. Does anyone have any comments/advice besides the ones listed their both in terms of load NEXTSTEP as well as for loading on other intel-based machines vendors not listed there (such as Gateway 2K etc). Any specific information (machine configuration etc) would be certainly helpful. Also, has any have a 2.8 Meg floppy drive with any of their intel-based machines? If possible, please respond to me directly. Thanks very much. Deep Medhi University of Missouri-Kansas City dmedhi@cstp.umkc.edu
From: nickel@widget.ecn.purdue.edu (David A Nickel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: How to prevent network from being disabled on start-up? Date: 17 Jul 1996 12:11:48 GMT Organization: Purdue University, W. Lafayette, IN Message-ID: <4sila4$2di@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> I'm trying to run PPP from a NeXTStation running 3.0. I have no ethernet connections, although the previous owner may have, and config scripts may indicate this. Every time I boot, I get the message "mach: The network is disabled or your computer isn't connected to it." Later, when I start Alby ppp, I get the message "ppp: write: Network is down." I theorize that the two of these are associated. How might I stop mach from shutting down the network (whatever "the network" is)? I've tried: putting a 50 Ohm terminated BNC cable onto the thinnet port and restarting kill -USR2 <pid for nmserver> manually ifconfig'ing up the ppp0 and ppp1 interfaces without success. Help. Dave Nickel nickel@ecn.purdue.edu
From: boards@toogoodoo.nosc.mil (Stephen Board) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: any info on Printer Works Date: 17 Jul 1996 20:36:15 GMT Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA 92147 Message-ID: <4sjirv$ag1@poisson.nosc.mil> Does anyone out there know what happened to The Printer Works? I wonder if they had any of those SCSI printers left??? Stephen boards@nosc.mil -- Stephen Board boards@nosc.mil
From: ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.lang.perl.misc Subject: perl 5.002 segmentation violation problems? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 18 Jul 1996 00:07:18 GMT Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA Message-ID: <4sjv7m$9dk@risc.agsm.ucla.edu> NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN I am observing occasional segmentation faults of perl 5.002 from the ftp-peak archive. They are completely random, and seem to appear mostly right on startup. Is this a known problem? Is there a known fix? /ivo welch -- Ivo Welch ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu ---------------------------- Ivo Welch.............. http://next.agsm.ucla.edu/ UCLA AGSM Finance...... http://www.agsm.ucla.edu/finance/ Int'l WWW/Email Dirctry http://next.agsm.ucla.edu/dir/ -- ---------------------------- --
From: zachary@bit.csc.lsu.edu (John Zachary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: New OS? Date: 18 Jul 1996 03:09:08 GMT Organization: LSU Robotics Research Laboratory Message-ID: <4sk9sk$mim@sp115.ocs.lsu.edu> A while back, I used NeXTStep 3.3 on my PC at home and really loved it. However, I had some opportunity with NT and sold NS. Now that I am back in school, I am thinking of getting NS again. Is there a new version called OpenStep 4.0? Is there an academic version like NeXTStep 3.3? If there is a new version, are there any substantial additions to the OS or is it just a way to break into the NT market? -John p.s. I probably isn't my place, but Mark Crispin's place in this newsgroup doesn't seem to have changed much in 6 months. -- John M. Zachary zachary@bit.csc.lsu.edu nnug.dk> Home page updated RSN: http://www.dannug.dk/~jacob/
From: gvandyk@icon.co.za Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Missing Functionality in 4.0? Date: 18 Jul 1996 04:49:22 GMT Organization: E.S. Systems cc (Financial Systems Development) Message-ID: <4skfoi$bt1@hermes.is.co.za> I had a brief look at the Beta of OS a while ago. I was looking at the fucntionality of the new classes etc. etc. One thing I noticed then was that the NSTableView Object does not support static rows anymore. Could anyone tell me if this is still the case in the final released version? I hope this was sorted out in the final release, as we have quite a lot of tableViews that uses static rows. One other question regarding the new projectbuilder. When I played with the Beta release, I noticed that it was quite cumborsome to get to your files from PB to Emacs ie I had to double click on the file every time I wanted to open it in Emacs. Also when there were an error in the compile and I clicked on the error I could not get the file opened on that line in Emacs. Is this better in the final release? I hope so because the built in functionality of PB for Emacs is virtually non-existant except for some keystrokes that are the same. -- Regards, Gerrit van Dyk email: gvandyk@icon.co.za (NeXTMail welcome) E.S. Systems cc The OBJECT is the ADVANTAGE
From: Wim J F van Geloven <wimg@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: oundblaster 16 PnP problem Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:31:11 +0200 Organization: Delft University of Technology, Faculty of Applied Physics Message-ID: <31EDF64F.68C2@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have a problem installing my soundblaster 16 Value PnP card After installing it gives a sound only once after that it only gives a tick. I have tried different versions/combinations of drivers (currently the Soundblaster 16 (8 bit DMA) V3.33 and the ISA/EISA bus support V3.32) and these all give the same problem. My machine is a pentium 166 Mhz, 32Mb with SCSI harddisk and CDROM, and NeXTstep 3.3 installed I hope someone has a clue. Wim van Geloven Delft University of Technoloy W.J.F.vanGeloven@ctg.tudelft.nl
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: OPENSTEP 4.0 for NT academic?? Date: 17 Jul 1996 16:24:42 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <4sj44a$61i@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <4sdl81$htq@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> moellney@michi.bota.uni-bonn.de (Michael Moellney) wrote: > Checking some www-sites that sell academic versions of OPENSTEP I > realized, that there is no OPENSTEP 4.0 for WinNT academic offer. > > Will there be a academic offer when OS 4.0 NT has a developer part? I don't know. > And a second qestion: > > Is NetInfo part of Openstep? > We want to build a workstation-cluster of WinNT and Mach computers. > But how to organize the Users... use a WinNT server for the > Windows part and use NetInfo for the Mach-part... no good solution. I am pretty sure that Openstep does *not* include Netinfo, so OpenStep for WindowsNT won't have that option. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: vhs@nextone.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New OS? Date: 18 Jul 1996 11:09:01 GMT Organization: Bull AG, Langen Message-ID: <4sl60d$atk@www.langen.bull.de> References: <4sk9sk$mim@sp115.ocs.lsu.edu> Cc: zachary@bit.csc.lsu.edu In <4sk9sk$mim@sp115.ocs.lsu.edu> John Zachary wrote: > p.s. I probably isn't my place, but Mark Crispin's place in this newsgroup > doesn't seem to have changed much in 6 months. Months?
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody found a good solution to the TeX/dvips screen display problem? Date: 18 Jul 1996 12:50:12 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <4slbu4$d2c@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <31EC1A1B.D75@cps.msu.edu> On Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:39:23 -0400, Stephen J. Perkins <perkins@cps.msu.edu> wrote: >Awhile back, many messages were exchanged regarding the poor >screen display quality of TeX documents that were converted >to postscript via dvips. Was a method ever found to convert >a TeX dvi document to something that renders well using the >built in postscript viewer? Well, "renders poor using the built-in postscript viewer" is not exactly true. Try grabbing a text portion with Grab.app, import the resulting tiff bitmap into Draw.app (use a big window so that Draw needs to rescale it to fit on the paper), and then preview this page. Not very exciting to read, not ? Exactly the same happens when ps documents generated with dvips (using `normal' TeX fonts) are previewed: dvips writes the characters as bitmaps into the ps file (in contrary to the normal scalable vector fonts you're used from Postscript). This is no bug, it's a feature: :-) dvips doesn't rely on Postscript's font rendering algorithm, but employs Metafont to render the characters for a given device. Therefore, the resulting ps file is not device independent (as DVI files (DEvice Independent) are), but just a mean of transporting the DVI file to a given printer. That's why you have to call dvips with a specific font resolution parameter (-Dxxx), which is normally hidden in a default printer configuration file (config.XXX). Therefore, for excellent previewing quality, you had to start up dvips with an appropriate resolution for the DPS system (was it 91dpi?). The problem is then that Metafont has to know about this device mode. Metafont knows a mode `nextscreen' with a resolution of 100dpi which is used for TeXview.app, but Preview.app works with something like 75dpi ?!, Therefore, even with `dvips -D100', you won't succeed. Only creating a new Metafont mode with 75dpi would help. But then, why bother with this ? dvips' ps files aren't meant for previewing or distribution, that's what DVI files are for. The only way to make those ps files portable is to delay the font rendering into the PS engine. You can use generic Postscript fonts (like Times, Helvetica) to typeset you TeX document, or you can install a set of PS-Type1 Computer Modern fonts like the BaKoMa collection (also on peanuts) or Y&Y's commercial version. Drawback: All of this is no solution for dvips-created ps files you receive and want to preview. You may consider to install ghostscript and X11 to get a more pleasant rendering ;-). Everything else are hacks (IMHO). Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit admin MATHInet / contact RhiNO | | MAIL: Mathematisches Institut PHONE: (49)6221 54-5771 | | INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg / Germany FAX: 54-8312 | | EMAIL: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (NeXTmail, MIME) |
From: me@ljva.mit.edu (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: any info on Printer Works Date: 18 Jul 1996 12:37:20 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <4slb60$j4i@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <4sjirv$ag1@poisson.nosc.mil> In article <4sjirv$ag1@poisson.nosc.mil> boards@toogoodoo.nosc.mil (Stephen Board) writes: > Does anyone out there know what happened to The Printer Works? > I wonder if they had any of those SCSI printers left??? > I recently took them up on their NeXT Laser Printer trade-in policy, and am very happy with my new printer. :*) You can reach the Printer Works at (510) 887-6116. jv
From: steve@jojo.bio.uci.edu (Steven Frank) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Flash ROM upgrade ZyXEL using kermit? Date: 18 Jul 1996 20:18:14 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <4sm666$btn@news.service.uci.edu> About a year ago someone posted a procedure to upgrade a ZyXEL flash ROM with kermit (using row ASCII and atupa). Can someone repost or send me the method? -- -------------------------------------------------- Steven Frank | Dept. of Ecology and | Tel: 714-824-2244 Evolutionary Biology | Fax: 714-824-2181
From: harts@knoware.nl (Paul Harts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Question: "unable to write Active.mbox" Date: 18 Jul 1996 20:33:42 GMT Organization: Knoware Internet Message-ID: <4sm737$3k0@news.knoware.nl> In-Reply-To: Hi, I 've experienced the following problem once in a while, but now it has become persistent. Each time I want to read my post a window pops up stating: ” In the console it reads: MailFetch: Can't make a copy of spoolfile. I can read the post in all other mailboxes, but they don't allow me to fetch my new post. Have you an idea of how to solve this problem? Since I cannot read my private mail, please respond in this group. Thanks in advance for any help, Paul ==================================================== | harts@knoware.nl | What's a FAQ?' | the Netherlands probably is one | NeXTmail Welcomed! ==================================================== PS: I already tried simple solutions like giving access to all groups etc. of the usr/spool, and power down and up again. -- ==================================================== | harts@knoware.nl | ' What's a FAQ?' | | the Netherlands | probably is one | | NeXTmail Welcomed! | | ==================================================== ==================================================== | harts@knoware.nl | Reply won't work, you | | the Netherlands | will have to type the | | NeXTmail Welcomed! | full address, sorry. | ====================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Question: "unable to write Active.mbox" Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.94.960719085703.2326A-100000@nerc1.nerc.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 09:04:32 -0400 References: <4sm737$3k0@news.knoware.nl> To: Paul Harts <harts@knoware.nl> In-Reply-To: <4sm737$3k0@news.knoware.nl> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [note to the author: your .sig is showing up twice on your posts] On 18 Jul 1996, Paul Harts wrote: > I 've experienced the following problem once in a while, but now it has > become persistent. Each time I want to read my post a window pops up > stating: Hmm... You might try going into ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox and see if anything weird is there (ie files owned by root, old CopyOfMailSpools). If it were me I would probably try deleting the table of contents and then opening Active.mbox.... you'll have to make that decision for yourself. I seem to remember this being a problem in < 3.2 but that was a long time ago... TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- I will be away from July 20 - 27 Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info
From: ehutch@hypnos.norden1.com (E. Hutchinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXTSTEP/Contract--long term Date: 19 Jul 1996 14:50:10 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Message-ID: <4so7b2$du8@tofu.alt.net> Programmer/analyst/developer Programmer/analyst NEXTSTEP---------------------Commercial experience Objective C------------------Commercial experience EOF--------------------------A Plus Sybase or Oracle-------------A Plus Contract---------------------Long term Area-------------------------Greater DC Area Must Be----------------------US Citizen or Greencard To Be Considered-------------Fax resume or mail a hard copy. -- ehutch@norden1.com (419) 893-6367 [fax] Omni Search (419) 893-6334 [voice] 1310 Craig Maumee, Ohio 43537
From: dave@turbocat.snafu.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody found a good solution to the TeX/dvips screen display problem? Date: 18 Jul 1996 21:42:36 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <4smb4c$58j@turbocat.snafu.de> References: <31EC1A1B.D75@cps.msu.edu> <4slbu4$d2c@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) wrote: (...) > > Therefore, for excellent previewing quality, you had to start up dvips > with an appropriate resolution for the DPS system (was it 91dpi?). The > problem is then that Metafont has to know about this device > mode. Metafont knows a mode `nextscreen' with a resolution of 100dpi > which is used for TeXview.app, but Preview.app works with something > like 75dpi ?!, Therefore, even with `dvips -D100', you won't > succeed. Only creating a new Metafont mode with 75dpi would help. When you create a 100 dpi .ps you can preview it in preview.app all you have to do is to zoom 1 time. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.snafu.de (NeXTMail,MIME)
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <ced016@email.mot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Netatalk- AppleTalk for NeXT port?! Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:01:36 -0600 Organization: FPDC of Motorola, Schaumburg,IL,USA Message-ID: <31EFF7B0.5B45@email.mot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <a href="http://www.umich.edu/~rsug/netatalk/">http://www.umich .edu/~rsug/netatalk/</a> This package- Netatalk is an AppleTalk for UNIX implementation, like CAP (Columbia AppleTalk Protocol) perhaps someone who has the skills would be interested in completing the port to NeXT. It HAS been ported to MkLinux (Linux on MACH 3 for PowerPC Macs) There's info <a href="http://mklinux.apple.com/wip/developers/netatalk.html" >http://mklinux.apple.com/wip/developers/netatalk.html and a link at: <a href="ftp://mklinux.apple.com/pub/MkLinux_DR1/Updates/960612 .mklinux">ftp://mklinux.apple.com/pub/MkLinux_DR1/Updates/96 0612.mklinux</a> -Eric > From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <ced016@email.mot.com> > To: netatalk@umich.edu > On these web pages, it is > mentioned that a NeXT port was started, however uncompleted. I just recently talked to the person that was attempting this port (he lives in Texas, now). He said he didn't get very far, and hadn't saved his work. :wes
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Anybody found a good solution to the TeX/dvips screen display problem? Date: 19 Jul 1996 22:38:24 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <4sp2p0$v59@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <31EC1A1B.D75@cps.msu.edu> <4slbu4$d2c@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <4smb4c$58j@turbocat.snafu.de> Cc: dave@turbocat.snafu.de In <4smb4c$58j@turbocat.snafu.de> David Wetzel wrote: > flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) wrote: > (...) > > > > Therefore, for excellent previewing quality, you had to start up dvips > > with an appropriate resolution for the DPS system (was it 91dpi?). The > > problem is then that Metafont has to know about this device > > mode. Metafont knows a mode `nextscreen' with a resolution of 100dpi > > which is used for TeXview.app, but Preview.app works with something > > like 75dpi ?!, Therefore, even with `dvips -D100', you won't > > succeed. Only creating a new Metafont mode with 75dpi would help. > > When you create a 100 dpi .ps you can preview it in preview.app all you have > to do is to zoom 1 time. Hey now... that works pretty sharp! Thanks! - Steve --- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: Alex Duong Nghiem <alexdn@globalobjects.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: JOB: NextStep developers needed immediately Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 23:12:26 -0400 Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <31F04E9A.B42@globalobjects.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: jobs@globalobjects.com Global Objects specializes in providing quality solutions to our clients through object technology. We are currently looking for several junior and senior NextStep developers. EOF and/or WebObjects experience are a plus. For immediate consideration, please e-mail your resume to jobs@globalobjects.com (no NextMail please!) or fax it to (770) 457-7333. Thanks, - Nicki -
From: jobs@globalobjects.com (Nicki N.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: JOB: NextStep developers needed immediately! Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 03:01:16 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <4sphvk$38hu@mule2.mindspring.com> Global Objects specializes in providing quality solutions to our clients through object technology. We are currently looking for 7 junior and senior NextStep developers. EOF and/or WebObjects experience are a plus. For immediate consideration, please e-mail your resume to jobs@globalobjects.com or fax it to (770) 457-7333. Thanks, - Nicki -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: smb3u@delton.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Re: New OS? Message-ID: <DutIn7.AI5@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology References: <4sk9sk$mim@sp115.ocs.lsu.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:25:55 GMT In article <4sk9sk$mim@sp115.ocs.lsu.edu> zachary@bit.csc.lsu.edu (John Zachary) writes: > >A while back, I used NeXTStep 3.3 on my PC at home and really loved it. >However, I had some opportunity with NT and sold NS. Now that I am back >in school, I am thinking of getting NS again. Is there a new version >called OpenStep 4.0? Is there an academic version like NeXTStep 3.3? >If there is a new version, are there any substantial additions to the >OS or is it just a way to break into the NT market? > There is an academic version. They still appear to be selling both 3.3 and 4.0. I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the development upgrade due to (what appear to me to be) gratuitous syntactic changes that will break much of my source until I spend the man-days (weeks/months) to change to the "snazzy new improved" syntax. After 18 years in the programming dodge, so much that is touted to be different turns out to be job insurance for programmers that I've become a bit of a fuddy-duddy about language improvements. For the user, it appears that not much has changed if you are already compiling PD or gnu licensed ware off the net. I'm installing four new seats this summer. I'll probably only put 4.0 on one or two of them. > >p.s. I probably isn't my place, but Mark Crispin's place in this newsgroup >doesn't seem to have changed much in 6 months. > Not much has changed about Crispin's attitude in the past seven years. It flatters the group that he bothers to keep coming back. He has changed his sig file though... ;^) Its a real comfort to know that some things will never change. Steven -- Steven M. Boker 804-295-8444 (voice/fax) 804-295-0009 (home) boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ Dept. of Psychology, University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA 22903 After 8/20 Dept. of Psych., U. of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556
From: steffi@dgs.dgsys.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WebObjects 2.0 _offline_ documentation? Date: 20 Jul 1996 16:11:36 -0400 Organization: Digital Gateway Systems Message-ID: <4sreho$r1d@DGS.dgsys.com> Hi, I cannot seem to find the downloadable WebObjects documentation .. Anybody know where it can be found?
From: Aidan Owens <aowens@empirenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Networking Windows95 to NeXT Server Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 20:16:09 -0700 Organization: Future Trac Associates Message-ID: <31EDAC79.4D1A@empirenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, I am stuck here: Have NeXT mainframe available. I want to connect a Windows'95 based PC directly to the network. I figure using TCP/IP should work pretty standard with the usual DNS and IP info, just like UNIX, NT, etc. Does anyone have ANY information, ANY experience, or ANY contacts whatsoever who might be able to help me out with whether or not this can be done? Please e-mail immediately! Aidan aowens@empirenet.com
From: american@mail.tds.net (Charles C. Hocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WebObjects 2.0 _offline_ documentation? Date: 21 Jul 1996 16:59:35 GMT Organization: TDS Telecom - Madison, WI Message-ID: <4stnln$qv7@news2.tds.net> References: <4sreho$r1d@DGS.dgsys.com> In-Reply-To: <4sreho$r1d@DGS.dgsys.com> On 07/20/96, Robert Nicholson wrote: >Hi, I cannot seem to find the downloadable WebObjects documentation .. >Anybody know where it can be found? I had the same problem. I found that WO 2.0 places the doc's under: /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/WebObjectsPDF and /NextLibrary/WebObjects/Documentation when you install WO 2.0. Charles -- ‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘ Charles C. Hocker american@mail.TDS.net ASCII, MIME & NeXTmail american@aztec.asu.edu "Food is Power. We use it to change behavior. Some May Call that Bribery. We Do Not Apologize." Catherine Bertini, executive director, UN World Food Program, Beijing, China, UN 4th World Conference on Women, Sept. 1995. ‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘ For copy my PGP key, send a message with the subject: Request PGP Key ‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘‘
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: NEXTSTEP Resources on the Internet Date: 22 Jul 1996 04:15:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4suv8e$c8d@digifix.digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Software, Inc. 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From: uasilvea@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Adrian Silveanu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.video Subject: Help! Need a VL-bus video card! Date: 21 Jul 1996 23:32:18 -0500 Organization: Educational Computing Network, Illinois USA Message-ID: <4sv08i$gpi@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu> Hello, Does anybody know a good VL-bus card that works with both OS/2 and NEXTSTEP? I have come up with #9 GXE 64 Pro VL 4VRAM and ELSA WINNER 1000TRIO. Except with the WINNER 1000TRIO, there doesn't seem to be a NEXTSTEP driver for it, or maybe there is one, but I missed it. Any others? Thank you,
From: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Networking Windows95 to NeXT Server Date: 22 Jul 1996 07:55:49 GMT Organization: Delft University of Technology Message-ID: <4svc65$dun@mo6.rc.tudelft.nl> References: <31EDAC79.4D1A@empirenet.com> Aidan Owens <aowens@empirenet.com> writes > Okay, I am stuck here: > > Have NeXT mainframe available. I want to connect a Windows'95 based PC > directly to the network. I figure using TCP/IP should work pretty > standard with the usual DNS and IP info, just like UNIX, NT, etc. > > Does anyone have ANY information, ANY experience, or ANY contacts > whatsoever who might be able to help me out with whether or not this can > be done? > > Please e-mail immediately! > > Aidan > aowens@empirenet.com Hi, I am not that much of a networking expert, but from what I know about it I can give you two options: - use the TCP/IP protocol to implement this you will need PC-NFS software for windows95 (not supported standard) to let windows 'talk' TCP/IP. Look on the web to find this kind of software for W95. - use the windows file system protocol in this case you need to make your nextstep machine 'talk' the windows file system protocol. You can do this with SAMBA, a free software package. SAMBA is included in Openstep 4.0 for Mach. I do not know where to get it for NS 3.3. Hope this helps, Abraham Guyt. _____________________________________________________________________ Abraham Guyt P.O.Box 356 Department of Information Systems 2600 AJ Delft Faculty Technical Mathematics & Informatics The Netherlands Delft University of Technology tel: +31 15 78 5969 E-mail: guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl NeXT-mail welcome
From: jklein@artificial.com (Jon Klein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Netatalk- AppleTalk for NeXT port?! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 22 Jul 1996 14:24:29 GMT Organization: CDnow - The World's Largest Online Music Store http://cdnow.com Message-ID: <4t02ut$7b@netaxs.com> References: <31EFF7B0.5B45@email.mot.com> Eric A. Dubiel (ced016@email.mot.com) wrote: : I just recently talked to the person that was attempting : this port (he lives in Texas, now). He said he didn't get : very far, and hadn't saved his work. : : :wes So is anybody willing to give this a try? Netatalk works fine on SunOS 4.1.x, which is bsd based, and I recently heard that there is a patch which will allow it to run on freebsd... so it's certainly feasable. This is most likely a bit beyond my ability, but I think it could be done with some help. Anybody interested?
From: ampriasm@students.wisc.edu (Andrew M. Priasmoro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ZyXEL 1496 Modem. Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:40:41 -0400 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Message-ID: <ampriasm-2207961140410001@f180-205.net.wisc.edu> Hi, I would like to ask some questions. 1. Does ZyXEL 1496E Modem need a Fax/Modem driver to be installed on NeXTStation? 2. How do I connect the modem to the NeXTStation? Will the NeXTStation automatically recognize the modem? 3. I saw ZyXEL product homepage, it seemed there is another kind of ZyXEL 1496 modem which is called ZyXEL 1496+. This modem has digital LCD instead of blinking LED. My question is that does this 1496+ work on NeXTStation? Is this 1496+ modem available in black color? What is the price for this ZyXEL 1496+? Thanks in advance. Andrew. -- Andrew Priasmoro University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Networking Windows95 to NeXT Server Date: 22 Jul 1996 20:08:02 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <4t0n33$nif@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <4svc65$dun@mo6.rc.tudelft.nl> In article <4svc65$dun@mo6.rc.tudelft.nl> guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl (A. Guyt) writes: > Aidan Owens <aowens@empirenet.com> writes > > Have NeXT mainframe available. I want to connect a Windows'95 based PC > > directly to the network. I figure using TCP/IP should work pretty > > standard with the usual DNS and IP info, just like UNIX, NT, etc. > - use the TCP/IP protocol > to implement this you will need PC-NFS software for windows95 (not > supported standard) to let windows 'talk' TCP/IP. Look on the web to find > this kind of software for W95. Just to clarify things: Windows 95 has builtin support for TCP/IP. It does not, however, support NFS, which is alleviated by using the PC-NFS product -- Rex Dieter Computer System Manager Department of Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska Lincoln
From: steve@empire.com.au (Stephen Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Command Line RTFD printing Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:20:31 +1000 Organization: Empire Ridge Message-ID: <steve-2307961521110001@202.14.79.95> I have what seems to be a simple task - printing RTFD files from a perl script. It seems that the right thing to do would be to use Perl's "system" command to go: "open -p someDocument.rtfd" but I get the response: "can't open connection to Edit on local host." Doing a simple "open someDocument.rtfd" however, works. I'm using NeXTstep 3.2, black hardware, Edit 3.0 (v84) Could anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong here or how I can print from a Perl script using some other technique? thanks, Steve Taylor steve@empire.com.au
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: energy savings on a nextstep PC Date: 22 Jul 1996 22:55:16 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <sams.838098273@shellx> I was pleasantly surprised to find that APM (advanced power management) worked on my PC, so I thought I would share this in case anyone else didn't know. I just assumed it required driver support that didn't exist in nextstep, but this isn't the case. You probably need a fairly recent PC; my 8 month old ASUS motherboard has it. You define in the bios setup what power management features you would like to enable, and when. On my system, you can define 3 levels of inactivity (dozing, standby, and suspended), the times at which these kick in, what happens for each level, and what interrupts wake you up or keep you from sleeping. Possible energy saving measures include blanking the monitor, slowing the cpu by various degrees, and spinning down the disks. On my system, I only use it to blank the monitor after 30 minutes, and my Sony monitor goes into energy saving mode until I use the mouse or keyboard. (Oh yeah, I'm sure you need a recent energy-saving monitor, killing the sync on some old monitors can cook them.) For fun, I also experimented with slowing the CPU by a factor of 64, and to my surprise my system still worked fine, even the sound driver. However, I would guess that such a slowdown would interfere with handling serial interrups, so I now leave the CPU running at full speed. I also am not sure I trust the system to do the right thing with spinning up the disks, so I don't use the spin down feature. Once you have enabled power management in the bios, you will get an entry in Preferences.app that allows you to use power management under NS. Preferences tells you you can choose between 'best performance' or 'energy savings'; this isn't quite right because I configured it to save energy without decreasing performance. I think you can enable power management on a per-user basis, so to get it working for loginwindow, you'll have to enable it for root. Being an inquisitive fellow, I had to test the results: Watts Computer alone, pentium 100 & 3 drives: 72 Sony 17" color monitor, normal operation: 103 same monitor, energy save mode (negligible) Home Stereo, playing Santana at fairly high volume 33 Halogen Torchiere 247 Large Refrigerator, while cooling 160 My house's central air conditioner 3135 (I tested other things too to check for sanity and consistency) Anyway, the gist of this is that power management works well and does what I want under nextstep. My office stays much cooler with the lights off and the monitor in powersave mode. cheers, -sam ps at the risk of belaboring this topic... my energy cost for running the computer + monitor works out to about $.02/hour while the air conditioner can be as high as $.36/hour. Also the monitor uses much less power than the spec indicates; perhaps its figure is worst-case during powerup.
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Flash ROM upgrade ZyXEL using kermit? Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:20:15 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1996Jul23.142015.23359@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <4sm666$btn@news.service.uci.edu> In article <4sm666$btn@news.service.uci.edu> steve@jojo.bio.uci.edu (Steven Frank) writes: > About a year ago someone posted a procedure to upgrade a ZyXEL > flash ROM with kermit (using row ASCII and atupa). Can someone > repost or send me the method? You need either ascii or X-Modem to update ZyXEL firmware. Kermit can do ascii, but then so can tip. If you connect to the port (prefereably reasonably fast, and using flow control) with tip, then type: ATUPA y ~> The first is the command to update via ascii; you then have to confirm that you want to wipe the flash RAM. ~> is a tip command that will prompt you to enter a filename, for the file to be transferred. The latest firmware for the ISDN models is 2.03; if you are using this, it will report 9111 lines transferred. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: dknox@uga.cc.uga.edu (David K. Knox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Images of NeXT sales brochures Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 11:57:27 -0500 Organization: Disability Services, University of Georgia Message-ID: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> Greetings NeXT enthusiasts! I have scanned two 1991 NeXT brochures and placed them on a site for your downloading and viewing enjoyment. There are lots of fine pictures and technical specs. The site is: http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT/NeXT.html In the interests of clarity the images are big ( around 400K each), my server is fast so they should load up quickly. I hope you enjoy them.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Date: 23 Jul 1996 16:11:43 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> In-Reply-To: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> On 07/23/96, David K. Knox wrote: > Greetings NeXT enthusiasts! I have scanned two 1991 NeXT brochures and > placed them on a site for your downloading and viewing enjoyment. There > are lots of fine pictures and technical specs. The site is: > http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT/NeXT.html > In the interests of clarity the images are big ( around 400K each), my > server is fast so they should load up quickly. I hope you enjoy them. > Yes, thanks, although I do have two copies of that brochure in my office. I also have, however, a copy of what I think(?) is the original brochure, "Welcome to the NeXT decade" (the one with the black cover, 1' square, circa 1989). I haven't read it for a while. Interesting reading, particularly from an academic perspective. On the first page: "To accomplish [our mission], we worked closely with a number of people whose very business is laying the groundwork for the future: the leaders in Higher Education. "They rank among the most demanding users of technology. In academia, computers are often networked by the thousands. Given the diversity of disciplines, they are pushed to the limit on a daily basis, for complex simulations as well as more traditional uses." Later on it says: "Those who have committed themselves to NeXT technology have done so with a vengeance, and the enthusiasm has been gratifying. Of course, we continue to cultivate new partnerships. Because as powerful as our engineers made the NeXT Computer, these partnerships make it more powerful still." Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: energy savings on a nextstep PC Date: 23 Jul 1996 17:28:49 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4t324h$cm@news.next.com> References: <sams.838098273@shellx> Samuel G. Streeper writes > I was pleasantly surprised to find that APM (advanced power > management) worked on my PC, so I thought I would share > this in case anyone else didn't know. I just assumed it > required driver support that didn't exist in nextstep, > but this isn't the case. [snip] > Anyway, the gist of this is that power management works well > and does what I want under nextstep. My office stays much > cooler with the lights off and the monitor in powersave mode. > > cheers, > -sam > A couple of additional points: Power management is only supported on NEXTSTEP 3.3 or later. Some systems claim to support APM, but really don't. Try this out a little before trusting it. Some systems go to sleep just fine, but never wake up again :-( On my Intel motherboard, I can enable all the power management settings, and everything "just works" - hard drive spins down, monitor shuts off, and CPU goes into low-speed mode. I usually don't run with the hard drive shutdown enabled, though - I think the extra couple of watts is worth it to extend the life of the drive. -- Mark Bessey NeXT Software, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: jonl@geom.umn.edu (Jonathan B. Leffert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 3.2 -> 3.3?? Date: 23 Jul 1996 17:38:13 GMT Organization: University of Minnesota Message-ID: <4t32m5$b2j@epx.cis.umn.edu> What are the major differences between NeXTSTEP for Intel user versions 3.2 and 3.3?? thanks, jon -- Jon Leffert <jonl@geom.umn.edu> <jbleffert@mmm.com> "In the long run we are all dead." -- John Maynard Keynes "Profits are like fumbled footballs, they draw a crowd real fast." - D.M. "Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans." -- John Lennon
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Date: 23 Jul 1996 23:34:02 -0700 Organization: The Turbocolor On My Desk Message-ID: <4t4g4q$m40@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: >Yes, thanks, although I do have two copies of that brochure in my office. > >I also have, however, a copy of what I think(?) is the original brochure, >"Welcome to the NeXT decade" (the one with the black cover, 1' square, circa >1989). I haven't read it for a while. Interesting reading, particularly >from an academic perspective. On the first page: > {snip} I have that old brochure as well, a cube-sized booklet with... you guessed it, a cube on the cover & the back has the back side of a 68030 cube. Serial # AAK0001361 Where are some of the apps it shows? Digital Wall Street Journal, and other apps pictured that I have never seen... Almost makes me as sad as looking through the Winter 1992 Software and Peripherals Catalog... Thinking of what might have been... -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
From: c671143@showme.missouri.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Compatability issues Date: 24 Jul 1996 04:35:38 GMT Organization: Internet 1st, Inc Distribution: world Message-ID: <4t496q$bii@news1.i1.net> I'm getting ready to take the plunge on OpenStep for Mach on Intel. I've never installed NeXT before. I'm curious to know if my system can handle it. Here are the basics. Intel 486/66 VLB 24MB RAM USR Sportster 28.8i Diamond Stealth 32 2MB DRAM (ET4000 w32) Adaptec 2842 NEC 6xi Quantum 1giger SCSI I know that this post seems ridiculous because of course there are a million things that can go wrong on an install, but I want to know if I would have any conflicts before I ordered. If it makes any difference my system is a DELL :) Thanks Michael Roberts c671143@showme.missouri.edu <-----soon to be accepting NeXTMail
From: amoster@cube.de (Andreas Moster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.video Subject: Re: Help! Need a VL-bus video card! Date: 24 Jul 1996 06:49:22 GMT Organization: Cube Informationssysteme GmbH Message-ID: <4t4h1i$baa@cubenx.cube.de> References: <4sv08i$gpi@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu> uasilvea@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Adrian Silveanu) wrote: >Does anybody know a good VL-bus card that works with both >OS/2 and NEXTSTEP? I have come up with #9 GXE 64 Pro VL 4VRAM >and ELSA WINNER 1000TRIO. Except with the WINNER 1000TRIO, there >doesn't seem to be a NEXTSTEP driver for it, or maybe there >is one, but I missed it. Any others? I have a Elsa Winner 1000AVI-2MB with VL-Bus running under NeXTSTEP 3.3 and 4.0. The card just works great and the driver support of Elsa is superb. I have got a driver CD with drivers for all relevant OS including OS/2. Btw. the 1000TRIO is not supported by the NeXTSTEP driver! Andreas. -- Andreas Moster, [kju:b] Cube Informationssysteme GmbH Hessbruehlstrasse 15, 70565 Stuttgart, Germany fon 0711/90669-0, fax 0711/90669-33, email: amoster@cube.de private site: Vogelsangstr. 19, 75331 Engelsbrand, Germany fon 07235/3320, fax 07235/980074, email: am@hal.ka.sub.org NeXT, MIME mail, PGP welcome!
From: Greminger Thomas <greminger@nethos.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Serial Ports Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 14:34:04 -0700 Organization: Basler Kantonalbank Message-ID: <31F696CC.667E@nethos.net> References: <4rfb0i$4rh@barad-dur.nas.com> <4rgrid$1i11@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <4rrqqa$r51@surf.pangea.ca> <4rsn41$50c@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to connect my tow railway to my next machine (serial port). If I open \dev\ttyfb (or cufb) everything works fine. On the other side opening \dev\ttyfa does NOT work. Maybe the default parameters for these two connections are different. In which files are these defaults set? Does anybody have an idea, why it might not work with ttyfa instead of ttyfb? thanks for any help! greminger@nethos.net
From: NEED, CASH, FAST??<a@b.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: It's Here!! Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 09:47:40 -0700 Organization: Walt Disney Studios Message-ID: <4t5dbp$68s@phcs.phcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! I've got some awesome news that I think you need to take two minutes to read if you have ever thought "How could I make some serious cash in a hurry???", or been in serious debt, ready to do almost anything to get the money needed to pay off those bill collectors. So grab a snack, a warm cup of coffee, or a glass of your favorite beverage, get comfortable and listen to this interesting, exciting find! Let me start by saying that I FINALLY FOUND IT! That's right! I found it! And I HATE GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES!! I hate those schemes like multi-level marketing, mail-order schemes, envelope stuffing scams, 900 number scams... the list goes on forever. I have tried every darn get rich quick scheme out there over the past 12 years. I somehow got on mailing lists for people looking to make money (more like 'desperate stupid people who will try anything for money!'). Well, when I was a teenager, these claims to 'get me rich quick' sounded irresistible! I would shell out $14.95 here, $29.95 here, and another $49.95 there. I had maxed out my new Circuit City Card AND my Visa...I was desperate for money!! So, I gave them all a chance but failed at every one of them! Maybe they worked for some people, but not for me. Eventually, I just tossed that JUNK MAIL in the trash when I got the mail. I recognized it right away. I can smell a money scam from a mile away these days, SO I THOUGHT....I thought I could sniff out a scam easily. WAS I WRONG!!....I LOVE THE INTERNET!!! I was scanning thru a NEWSGROUP and saw an article stating to GET CASH FAST!! I though..."Here on the Internet?? Well, I'll just have to see what schemes could possible be on the internet." The article described a way to MAIL A ONE DOLLAR BILL TO ONLY FIVE PEOPLE AND MAKE $50, 000 IN CASH WITHIN 4 WEEKS! Well, the more I thought about it, the more I became very curious. Why? Because of the way it worked AND BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY COST ME FIVE DOLLARS (AND FIVE STAMPS), THAT'S ALL I EVER PAY....EVER!! Ok, so the $50,000 in cash was maybe an tough amount to reach, but it was possible. I knew that I could at least get a return of $1,000 or so. So I did it!! As per the instructions in the article, I mailed out ('snail mail'for you e-mail fanatics) a single dollar bill to each of the five people on the list that was contained in the article. I included a small note, with the dollar, that stated "Please Add Me To Your List." I then removed the first position name of the five names listed and moved everyone up one position, and I put my name in position five of the list. This is how the money starts rolling in! I then took this revised article now with my name on the list and REPOSTED IT ON AS MANY NEWSGROUPS AND LOCAL BULLETIN BOARD MESSAGE AREAS THAT I KNEW. I then waited to watch the money come in...prepared to maybe receive about $1000 to $1500 in cash or so.... But what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!! I knew what they were as soon as I saw the return addresses from people all over the world-Most from the U.S., but some from Canada, even some from Australia! I tell you, THAT WAS EXCITING!! So how much did I get in total return? $1000? $5000? Not even!!! I received a total of $23,343!!! I couldn't believe it!! I now have a brand new black Acura Integra to speak for, due to this!! Now after almost 8 months, I am ready to do it again!!! So maybe it was possible to get $50,000 in cash, I don't know, but IT COMPLETELY DEPENDS ON YOU, THE INDIVIDUAL! You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of! The more postings you achieve will determine how much cash will arrive in your very own mailbox!! It's just too easy to pass up!!! Let's review the reasons why you should do this: The only cost factors are for the five stamps, the 5 envelopes and the 5 one dollar bills that you send out to the listed names by snail mail (US Postal Service Mail). Then just simply repost the article (WITH YOUR NAME ADDED) to all the newsgroups and local BBS's you can. Then sit back and, (ironically), enjoy walking (you can run if you like! :o ) down your driveway to your mailbox and scoop up your rewards!! We all have five dollars to put into such an easy effortless investment with SPECTACULAR REALISTIC RETURNS OF $15,000 to $25,000 in about 3-5 weeks! So HOLD OFF ON THOSE LOTTERY NUMBERS FOR TODAY, EAT AT HOME TONIGHT INSTEAD OF TAKEOUT FROM McDONALDS AND INVEST FIVE DOLLARS IN THIS AMAZING MONEY MAKING SYSTEM NOW!!! YOU CAN'T LOSE!! So how do you do it exactly, you ask? I have carefully provided the mostdetailed, yet straightforward instructions on how to easily get this underway and get your cash on its way. SO, ARE YOU READY TO MAKE SOME CASH!!!?? HERE WE GO!!! *** THE LIST OF NAMES IS AT THE END OF THIS ARTICLE. *** OK, Read this carefully. Get a printout of this information, if you like, so you can easily refer to it as often as needed. INSTRUCTIONS: 1. Take a sheet of paper and write on it the following: "Please add my name to your list". This creates a service out of this money making system and thus making it completely legal. You are not just randomly sending a dollar to someone, you are paying one dollar for a legitimate service. Make sure you include your name and address. I assure you that, again, this is completely legal! For a neat little twist, also write what slot their name was in: "You were in slot 3", Just to add a little fun! This is all about having fun and making money at the same time! 2. Now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill , (no checks or money orders), and put them into an envelope and send it on its way to the five people listed. The folding of the paper around the bill will insure its arrival to its recipient. THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!! 3. Now listen carefully, here's where you get YOUR MONEY COMING TO YOUR MAILBOX. Look at the list of five people; remove the first name from position one and move everyone on the list up slot one on the list. Position 2 name will now move to the position 1 slot , position 3 will now become position 2, 4 will be be 3, 5 wil be 4. Now put your name, address, zipcode AND COUNTRY in position 5, the bottom position on the list. 4. Now upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and local bulletin boards' message areas & file section as possible. Give a catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!! Such as: "NEED FAST CASH?, HERE IT IS!" or "NEED CASH TO PAY OFF YOUR DEBTS??", etc. And the more uploads, the more money you will make, and of course, the more money the others on the list will make too. LET'S ALL TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER BY BEING HONEST AND BY PUTTING FORTH 120 PERCENT INTO THIS PROFITABLE & AMAZING SYSTEM!!! You'll reap the benefits, believe me!!! Set a goal for the number of total uploads you'll post, such as 15-20 postings or more! Always have a goal in mind!!! If you can UUE encode the file when uploading, that will make it easier for the poeple to receive it and have it downloaded to their hard drive. That way they get a copy of the article right on their computer without hassles of viewing and then saving the article from the File menu. Don't alter the file type, leave it as an MS-DOS Text file. The best test is to be able to view this file using Microsoft's Notepad for Windows 3.x or WordPad for Windows '95. If the margins look right without making the screen slide left or right when at the ends of the sentences, you're in business! 5. If you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the BBS, or "POST" a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a file, tell them who your Internet provider is and PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS BE GLAD TO HELP. I would try to describe how to do it but there are simply too many internet software packages with slightly different yet relatively simple ways to post or upload a file. Just ask for help or look in the help section for 'posting'. I do know that for GNN, you simply select 'POST' then enter a catchy description under the subject box, choose 'ATTACH', selecting 'UUE' and NOT 'TXT', then choose 'Browse' to go look for the file. Find your text file CASH.TXT and click on it and choose 'OK'. Place a one line statement in the main body section of the message post screen. Something like "Download this to read how to get cash arriving in your mailbox with no paybacks!" or whatever. Just make sure it represents its true feasibility, NOT something like..."Get one million dollars flooding in your mailbox in two days!" You'll never get ANY responses! 6. And this is the step I like. JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY LIFE BECAUSE CASH IS ON ITS THE WAY!! Expect to see a little money start to trickle in around 2 weeks, but AT ABOUT WEEKS 3 & 4, THE MONEY STORM WILL HIT YOUR MAILBOX!! All you have to do is take it out of the mailbox and try not to scream too load (outside anyway) when you realize YOU HIT THE BIG TIME AT LAST!! 7. So go PAY OFF YOUR BILLS AND DEBTS and then get that something special you always wanted or buy that special person in your life (or the one you want in your life) a gift they'll never forget. ENJOY LIFE! 8. Now when you get low on this money supply, simply re-activate this file again; Reposting it in the old places where you originally posted and possibly some new places you now know of. Don't ever lose this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you ever need cash. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TOOL THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS RE-USE TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHEN CASH IS NEEDED! 9. (This step added by Charles Reiley). Hello, This is exciting isn't it?! While I'm on the list, just add a note saying "Please include extra money tips" with your name & E-MAIL address, and I will (FOR FREE) send you some neat methods to increase the money you will receive with this plan. Why?...Why not? I'm not a selfish jerk...I like helping out others. E-mail just makes it a touch easier and cheaper, too! After I drop off the list, I can no longer offer you this advice, obviously, but maybe someone else who gets my tips will offer and simply replace my name on this step number 9. Good luck and give this plan your all, it will definitely pay off! Like Mike said, HAVE FUN WITH IT!!! ************************************************************************************* THE NAMES LIST THE NAMES LIST THE NAME LIST ************************************************************************************* * HONESTY IS WHAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL!!! * * 1. John F. Bourgeois * 3043 New Oak Lane * Bowie, MD 20716 * * 2. David Maxwell * 1747 Stonybrook Ln. * APT 103 * Brunswick, OH 44212 * * 3. Daniel Henry * 3122-A Dagger Drive * Tyndall AFB, FL 32403-1204 * * 4. Jack Hartsfield * 1900 North Vine #404 * Los Angeles, California 90068 USA * * 5. John Ocava * 1125 N. Harvard Cir. * South Elgin, IL 60177 USA * ************************************************************************************* NOTE: Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you a dollar and always keep an eye on the local postings of this file... Just to make sure that everyone is playing the game fairly. You know where your name should be..... *** AGAIN, HONESTY IS THE BEST THING WE HAVE GOING FOR US ON THIS PLAN. -Mike Dotson, Boulder, CO *** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the money to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent the 5 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10000! All the lists are re-distributed as soon as the money is received. end of article
From: Yu-Wen Cheng Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.2 -> 3.3?? Date: 24 Jul 1996 16:52:17 GMT Organization: University of Arizona, Mathematics Message-ID: <4t5kc1$he4@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <4t32m5$b2j@epx.cis.umn.edu> Cc: jonl@geom.umn.edu Jonathan B. Leffert wrote: > What are the major differences between NeXTSTEP for Intel user versions > 3.2 and 3.3?? > > thanks, > > jon > Better hardware support. Yuwen yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 3.2 -> 3.3?? Date: 24 Jul 1996 17:36:24 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <4t5muo$5lq@news.next.com> References: <4t32m5$b2j@epx.cis.umn.edu> Jonathan B. Leffert writes > What are the major differences between NeXTSTEP for Intel user versions > 3.2 and 3.3?? > > thanks, > > jon > -- The most significant difference is probably Intel hardware support - there's a whole lot more drivers available for 3.3, and many of the "basic" system drivers are much improved. The windowsserver now supports 8-bit color display modes as well. A new version of Mail.app comes with 3.3. It supports MIME, and has a few other minor improvements. There are also some bug fixes and performance improvements. Overall, 3.3 is "just plain better". On the other hand, if you're running on NeXT hardware, most of the improvements won't apply for you. Hope this helps, -Mark -- Mark Bessey NeXT Software, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: vhs@nextone.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Serial Ports Date: 24 Jul 1996 15:00:56 GMT Organization: Bull AG, Langen Message-ID: <4t5dr8$ogp@www.langen.bull.de> References: <4rfb0i$4rh@barad-dur.nas.com> <4rgrid$1i11@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <4rrqqa$r51@surf.pangea.ca> <4rsn41$50c@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <31F696CC.667E@nethos.net> Cc: greminger@nethos.net In <31F696CC.667E@nethos.net> Greminger Thomas wrote: > I would like to connect my tow railway to my next machine (serial port). > > If I open \dev\ttyfb (or cufb) everything works fine. > On the other side opening \dev\ttyfa does NOT work. > Maybe the default parameters for these two connections are different. > In which files are these defaults set? > Does anybody have an idea, why it might not work with ttyfa instead of > ttyfb? I guess you are coming from the DOS world, from your use of \ instead of / as a path separator :-) On old black hardware (030 cubes), port a was wired in a slightly different way from port b. One of the ports supplied 5V to external devices, and I think only one of them was actually rs232-compatible (both were rs-422 compatible, though). Volker, from fainting memory
From: Kevin Koym <kkoym@praxsys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: test, please ignore Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 12:48:53 -0500 Organization: Praxsys System Development, Inc. Message-ID: <31F66205.6EA@praxsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit please ignore this test
From: root@phcs.phcs.com (S00POR UZER) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <4t5dbp$68s@phcs.phcs.com> Control: cancel <4t5dbp$68s@phcs.phcs.com> Supersedes: <4t5dbp$68s@phcs.phcs.com> Date: 24 Jul 1996 16:14:37 -0400 Organization: Private Healthcare Systems, Inc Message-ID: <4t607d$nis@phcs.phcs.com> SPAM cancelled by jq@phcs.com
From: lozinski@cup.portal.com (Christopher A Lozinski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Nextstep Newsletter Date: 24 Jul 1996 15:19:50 -0700 Organization: The Portal System (TM) Sender: pccop@unix.portal.com Distribution: world Message-ID: <152830@cup.portal.com> 1.NeXT LOOKS VERY PROFITABLE 2.JUST RELEASED: NeXTSTEP 4.0 AND WEBOBJECTS 2.0 3.TSUNAMI 4.TOUGH TO MIGRATE TO WINDOWS 5.SUN WILL SCOOP UP THE OLD NeXT CUSTOMER BASE 6.SUN IS SERIOUS ABOUT OPENSTEP 7.INTEL OR SUN HARDWARE 8.NeXTSTEP APPS MOVING TO SOLARIS 9.WEBOBJECTS VAR's DOING WELL, OTHERS CONTINUING 10.SECURE WEB SERVER 11.COMPUTER-RELATED INJURIES 12. WHY NeXT PROJECTS FAIL by Virginia Provencher, Guest Columnist 13.NeXT HARDWARE MARKET 14.CABLE MODEMS LOOK VERY HOT 15.WELCOME GEETA KADAMBI 16.MY RESUME DATABASE 17) BPG NEWS 18) ERRATA 19) HOW TO SUBSCRIBE 1.NeXT LOOKS VERY PROFITABLE NeXT is targeting the mainstream market of connecting fortune 500 relational databases to the Web, and sells a mature object-oriented environment for doing that. Sales are up, profitability is up, and demand for developers is up. NeXT is no longer an exciting startup with a hot new technology. The company has crossed the chasm into a mature profitable business. 2. JUST RELEASED: NeXTSTEP 4.0 AND WEBOBJECTS 2.0 NeXT released NeXTSTEP 4.0 last week and is calling the old operating system: OPENSTEP 4.0 For Mach. This new version is basically NeXTSTEP 3.3 with a new set of libraries, as required for compatibility with OPENSTEP for NT. New OPENSTEP 4.0 applications will be source code compatible between NT and NeXTSTEP (that is the promise), and will interoperate with existing 3.3 applications. The operating system product operates by loading both the 3.3 and 4.0 runtime libraries simultaneously. Old applications such as mail and workspace manager will use the 3.3 runtime libraries. Newer applications will use the 4.0 runtime libraries. Thus the mach-based product does consume more memory, and the NT compatible 4.0 libraries do run a little slower than the old NeXTSTEP 3.3 libraries. OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach includes a new PPP module but no other new operating system functionality. There is no new Berkeley Unix, no new patch and go linker, no new sendmail, and no new uucp. The product is tri-fat compatible. It runs on Black, White and Sparc hardware, but not on HP hardware, and not on Sparc Ultra hardware. Last night representatives from NeXT were scheduled to demo some new 4.0 applications at the Bay Area NeXT Users Group meeting <www.bang.org>, but failed to complete the demos on time. Rather than show up and answer questions, they cancelled an hour before show time, leaving a large audience of disappointed people to share rumours about what is (or is not) included in the 4.0 release, hence my apologies for any inaccuracies in this story. 3.TSUNAMI Tsunami is NeXT's WYSIWYG HTML Editor. A pre-release version is being bundled with WebObjects 2.0 for NT. Rather than being a complete editor, it focuses on creating WebObjects-compatible pages. Traditional static publishing is better done with a more generalized HTML editor. Tsunami is being released first on Windows NT, and later on NeXTSTEP. As an immediate alternative solution, I wonder: Has anyone tried running Page Mill on the Mac Emulator Ardi <www.ardi.com> on black hardware? 4.TOUGH TO MIGRATE TO WINDOWS If you are running a mission-critical application, it may be reasonably easy to port your application, but the support services are missing making it a difficult migration path from NeXTSTEP to Windows NT. Netinfo is not available on NT. Xedoc is not planning on doing the port of Netinfo. NeXTMAIL is not there. Even Eloquent has not gotten around to porting a NeXTMAIL-compliant pop e-mail application to Windows. Although some NeXTSTEP ISVs plan on porting to Windows NT, customers report that they plan on using standard Windows applications, so there is little incentive for NeXT shrink-wrapped vendors to port to Windows. Thus, it is tough to get to NT from NEXTSTEP 3.3. 5.SUN WILL SCOOP UP THE OLD NeXT CUSTOMER BASE NeXT has ceased investment in the Mach OS (as opposed to the tools), and their clients report that they are trying to kill off Mach. The only easy migration path is to Solaris. I expect that a lot of the existing NeXTSTEP companies will migrate to Sun OPENSTEP. Most of the native NeXTSTEP applications will be available on Solaris. Despite Sun management, even Terminal.app was ported over by one of the developers on his own time. Although NT is based on Mach, Solaris is Unix, and therefore much closer to NeXT Mach than is NT. Unix is open, well understood, and flexible, making it a preferred choice for developers. Sun hardware is fast, making it a preferred choice for some of the computationally intensive applications often seen in the financial industry. 6.SUN IS SERIOUS ABOUT OPENSTEP Sun just bought Lighthouse design. Lighthouse was the largest NeXTSTEP independent software vendor. With this purchase Sun acquires a suite of productivity applications for OPENSTEP. These are the most popular NeXTSTEP applications. They also acquire some solid NeXTSTEP expertise. Lighthouse Design will operate as a new business unit reporting into the office of the chief technology officer of sun. Jonathan Schwartz, the current Lighthouse president will become general manager of the newly formed business unit and will report into Dr. Schmidt. The Lighthouse Business unit retains the rights to sell OmniWeb. It is not clear why Sun purchased Lighthouse design. Sun still has not decided whether to bundle OPENSTEP with NEO or not, so they sound like they are still confused, and yet they made this very significant decision to purchase Lighthouse. They could be buying expertise, or buying the WebObjects Class Libraries available in the BackPlane product from Lighthouse, or maybe they are interested in Lighthouse applications as general Solaris productivity Applications. It is not at all clear why Sun made this decision. Does anyone know what drove this decision? 7.INTEL OR SUN HARDWARE Not so long ago the topic of discussion was whether to migrate to Sun hardware or Intel hardware. At the time I thought, but never wrote, that the Sun choice left the user with the choice of two vendors of the software technology. They could either get NeXTSTEP on Sparc, or OPENSTEP on Solaris. Now the story is different. You need to choose between NT and Solaris. This is the big debate. NT has tremendous desktop penetration. Unix is dearly beloved by the technical community. Unix plays by Internet rules. It is well understood, and very flexible. And it is reasonably easy to run a large Unix installation. By contrast, Microsoft Directory Services were not Internet compatible. It is easy to install NT and to get one node running, but difficult to administer it in custom configurations. Of course NT is also cheaper, and it has Microsoft marketing behind it. 8.NeXTSTEP APPS MOVING TO SOLARIS Some of the shrink-wrapped vendors are reporting moving their applications to both NT and Solaris. I think that they will find a more hospitable environment on Solaris. On NT, they will have to compete with Microsoft applications. On Solaris the competition is weaker. Furthermore, I expect that the new Sun marketing manager will really help companies migrate their applications to Solaris. NeXT applications on Solaris fills a market void of easy-to-use, end-user productivity applications.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dv220G.3DB@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:05:04 GMT References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk>, mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: > >I also have, however, a copy of what I think(?) is the original brochure, >"Welcome to the NeXT decade" (the one with the black cover, 1' square, circa >1989). I haven't read it for a while. Interesting reading, particularly >from an academic perspective. Yeah, I have that one too. It was a little sad to go through the "seven breakthroughs" and count how many live on in OPENSTEP. 1.5? I also have one about using black hardware for DTP, but it's not handy. >Later on it says: "Those who have committed themselves to NeXT technology >have done so with a vengeance, and the enthusiasm has been gratifying. Of >course, we continue to cultivate new partnerships. Because as powerful as >our engineers made the NeXT Computer, these partnerships make it more >powerful still." > It also mentions, around there, the fact that IBM wanted NeXTSTEP (then NeXTstep, I suppose) for what would be the RS/6000. But this is devolving into another "what could have been" discussion. Bring on the conspiracy theories! -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: f122092955@mail.chinatrust.com.tw (Cheng-chun Chou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.video Subject: Re: Help! Need a VL-bus video card! Date: 25 Jul 1996 02:03:36 GMT Organization: Taiwan NeXT User Group, TwNUG Message-ID: <4t6klo$hq7@news.cis.nctu.edu.tw> References: <4sv08i$gpi@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <4sv08i$gpi@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu>, uasilvea@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu says... > > >Hello, > > Does anybody know a good VL-bus card that works with both >OS/2 and NEXTSTEP? I have come up with #9 GXE 64 Pro VL 4VRAM >and ELSA WINNER 1000TRIO. Except with the WINNER 1000TRIO, there >doesn't seem to be a NEXTSTEP driver for it, or maybe there >is one, but I missed it. Any others? > > Thank you, > hi, why don't you try ATI Graphics Pro Turbo VL 4VRAM the quality, performance, supports are all great....:) and the price also reasonable......:) almost every os support it.....:) -- Cheng-chun Chou Taiwan NeXT User Group, TwNUG Taipei, Taiwan, ROC Email Adress: f122092955@mail.chinatrust.com.tw NeXT Mail & MIME Mail are both Welcome...^_^
From: Salvo@AccessOne.com(Marc Salvatori) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.video Subject: Re: Help! Need a VL-bus video card! Date: 25 Jul 1996 03:29:27 GMT Organization: AccessOne Message-ID: <4t6pmn$sn8@news.accessone.com> References: <4sv08i$gpi@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu> <4t4h1i$baa@cubenx.cube.de> Cc: amoster@cube.de In <4t4h1i$baa@cubenx.cube.de> Andreas Moster wrote: > I have a Elsa Winner 1000AVI-2MB with VL-Bus running under NeXTSTEP 3.3 and > 4.0. The card just works great and the driver support of Elsa is superb. > I have got a driver CD with drivers for all relevant OS including OS/2. > Btw. the 1000TRIO is not supported by the NeXTSTEP driver! I started out with a #9 GXE-L16, but became disenchanted with the driver; so I turned to an Elsa 2000Pro/X-4, and never regretted the move. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | >< >< mailto:salvo@accessone.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted ><
From: Mahesh Saptharishi <mahesh+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Accessing Parallel Port Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 00:10:29 -0400 Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <AlxjCpa00iV_M_tnxz@andrew.cmu.edu> How do I communicate with the parallel port especially the data, status and control register using BSD C under NeXT on Sun SparcStation 20? The program that I am trying to port uses inb() and outb(), but those functions seem to be unavailable when you are dealing with a sparc station. Any ideas? Thanks, -Mahesh
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Nextstep Newsletter Date: 25 Jul 1996 02:10:35 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <4t6l2r$71q@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> References: <152830@cup.portal.com> lozinski@cup.portal.com (Christopher A Lozinski) wrote: > 2. JUST RELEASED: NeXTSTEP 4.0 AND WEBOBJECTS 2.0 > NeXT released NeXTSTEP 4.0 last week and is calling the old operating > system: OPENSTEP 4.0 For Mach. But has anyone actually received the release version of OpenStep/Mach 4.0 from NeXT? We still haven't. So that absolutely everyone knows what the intials (FCS?) that describe the release version stand for, would someone please tell the last person in the world to find out - me ?-) > OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach includes a new PPP module but no other new > operating system functionality. There is no new Berkeley Unix, no > new patch and go linker, no new sendmail, and no new uucp. Taylor UUCP replaced the old UUCP in the OpenStep prerelease versions. Did Taylor UUCP not survive the cut? This and the PPP module are no big deal anyway since they can be just as easily installed under NEXTSTEP. > Last night representatives from NeXT were scheduled to demo some new > 4.0 applications at the Bay Area NeXT Users Group meeting > <www.bang.org>, but failed to complete the demos on time. The next monthly BANG meeting is tomorrow night, so this is very old news. Maybe most of the info in this posting is almost a month old which might explain some of the inaccuracies. > 4.TOUGH TO MIGRATE TO WINDOWS > If you are running a mission-critical application, it may be > reasonably easy to port your application, We're finding the conversion scripts to be quite powerful and helpful, but the converted API is quite different both in appearance and in the paradigms supported which means that a significant new learning experience is involved. Some things are better reimplemented rather than converted. This is especially true if a DBKit app is being ported to NT which essentially entails a complete rewrite :-( > Thus, it is tough to get to NT from NEXTSTEP 3.3. I'll certainly agree with that! > 6.SUN IS SERIOUS ABOUT OPENSTEP I'm not sure I believe that. Some at Sun want to scrap OpenStep and move to Java. But Sun marketing has spent a lot of time convincing Solaris developers that OpenStep is their future, so changing course at this point would be a marketing "problem". So I think Sun is holding its nose and continuing onward toward OpenStep, but without any fanfare. Doesn't sound serious to me. > 8.NeXTSTEP APPS MOVING TO SOLARIS > Some of the shrink-wrapped vendors are reporting moving their > applications to both NT and Solaris. I think that they will find a > more hospitable environment on Solaris. On NT, they will have to > compete with Microsoft applications. On Solaris the competition is > weaker. Furthermore, I expect that the new Sun marketing manager > will really help companies migrate their applications to Solaris. > NeXT applications on Solaris fills a market void of easy-to-use, > end-user productivity applications. But a tiny fraction of a huge pie (Windows installed base who will eventually migrate to NT or a "lite" version thereof) may be more attractive than a possibly bigger fraction of a small pie (Solaris installed base, many of which may not move to an OpenStep-compliant version). -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: Cameron Bromley <cam@xedoc.com.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Command Line RTFD printing Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 14:40:16 +1000 Organization: Xedoc Software Devleopment Message-ID: <31F6FAB0.31DF@xedoc.com.au> References: <steve-2307961521110001@202.14.79.95> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephen Taylor wrote: > > I have what seems to be a simple task - printing RTFD files from a perl > script. It seems that the right thing to do would be to use Perl's > "system" command to go: > > "open -p someDocument.rtfd" > > but I get the response: > > "can't open connection to Edit on local host." > > Doing a simple "open someDocument.rtfd" however, works. > > I'm using NeXTstep 3.2, black hardware, Edit 3.0 (v84) > > Could anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong here or how I can print from a > Perl script using some other technique? > > thanks, > > Steve Taylor > steve@empire.com.au What you need is rtf2ps, written by Eric Scott and modified by Steve Haymen. It should at all good archives. Here's an old copy: ----------------------------------------------------------- // Print RTF files from the command line // (without a connection to the Window Server!) // Eric P. Scott, San Francisco State University, November 1993 // + for NS 2.1 and 3.1 // cc -o rtf2ps -s -O rtf2ps.m -lNeXT_s /* * enhanced to handle multiple files (both .rtf and .rtfd) * and to emit postscript to stdout instead of printing it. * * Steve Hayman * February 1994 * shayman@Objectario.com */ /* Added optional -p PrinterName argument Be careful: the command line MUST look like rtf2ps -p Target_Printer file1 file2 .... */ #ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0 #include <ansi/stdio.h> #import <defaults/defaults.h> #else #include <stdio.h> #import <appkit/defaults.h> #endif #import <streams/streams.h> #import <objc/Object.h> #import <objc/Storage.h> #import <appkit/PrintInfo.h> #import <appkit/Text.h> #import <dpsclient/dpsclient.h> #import <dpsclient/psops.h> @interface FakeApp:Object { id _focusStack; id printInfo; } + initialize; - init; - printInfo; - (BOOL)shouldRunPrintPanel:aView; - (const char *)appName; - (const char *const *)systemLanguages; - _focusStack; - (DPSContext)context; #ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0 - (BOOL)_calibratedColorOK; #endif @end @implementation FakeApp + initialize { static NXDefaultsVector PRDefaults = { { "NXFont", "Helvetica" }, { "NXFontSize", "12" }, { "NXMargins", "14.17 14.17 14.17 14.17" }, { "NXPaperType", "A4" }, #ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0 { "NXBoldSystemFonts", "Helvetica" }, { "NXSystemFonts", "Helvetica-Bold" }, #endif { (char *)NULL, (char *)NULL } }; NXRegisterDefaults("rtf2ps", PRDefaults); return self; } - init { [super init]; _focusStack=[[Storage allocFromZone:[self zone]] initCount:0 elementSize:10 description:"@*c"]; return self; } - printInfo { if (!printInfo) printInfo=[[PrintInfo allocFromZone:[self zone]] init]; return printInfo; } - (BOOL)shouldRunPrintPanel:aView { return NO; } - (const char *)appName { return "rtf2ps"; } - (const char *const *)systemLanguages { return (const char *const *)NULL; } - _focusStack { return _focusStack; } - (DPSContext)context { return (DPSContext)NULL; } #ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0 - (BOOL)_calibratedColorOK { return YES; } #endif @end @interface Text(printrtf) - (BOOL)lockFocus; - unlockFocus; - (BOOL)getVisibleRect:(NXRect *)theRect; #ifndef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0 - beginPSOutput; #endif - display:(const NXRect *)rects :(int)rectCount :(BOOL)clipFlag; - spoolFile:(const char *)filename; @end @implementation Text(printrtf) - (BOOL)lockFocus { return (NXDrawingStatus==NX_PRINTING) ? NO : [super lockFocus]; } - unlockFocus { return (NXDrawingStatus==NX_PRINTING) ? self : [super unlockFocus]; } - (BOOL)getVisibleRect:(NXRect *)theRect { if (NXDrawingStatus!=NX_PRINTING) return [super getVisibleRect:theRect]; [self getBounds:theRect]; return YES; } #ifndef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0 - beginPSOutput { extern id NXApp; [[NXApp printInfo] setPageOrder:NX_ASCENDINGORDER]; return [super beginPSOutput]; } #endif - display:(const NXRect *)rects :(int)rectCount :(BOOL)clipFlag { if (NXDrawingStatus!=NX_PRINTING) return [super display:rects:rectCount:clipFlag]; PSgsave(); PStranslate(0.0, -frame.size.height+ (rects[0].size.height+rects[0].origin.y)*2.0); PSscale(1.0, -1.0); [self drawSelf:rects:rectCount]; PSgrestore(); return self; } - spoolFile:(const char *)filename { extern id NXApp; id pi; const char *pn; int cp; char cmd[256]; pi=[NXApp printInfo]; (void)strcpy(cmd, "exec lpr"); #ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0 if ((pn=[[pi printer] name])&&*pn) { #else if ((pn=[pi printerName])&&*pn) { #endif (void)strcat(cmd, " -P"); (void)strcat(cmd, pn); } if ((cp=[pi copies])>1) (void)sprintf(&cmd[strlen(cmd)], " -#%d", cp); (void)strcat(cmd, " -r -s "); (void)strcat(cmd, filename); /* * forget all that, just ship it to stdout ...sah */ sprintf(cmd, "cat %s", filename); (void)system(cmd); /* really should check status here! */ return self; } @end main(int argc, char *argv[]) { extern id NXApp; register int i; NXStream *f; Text *t; int errs; NXRect fr; char *streambuf; int len, maxlen; id pi; char path[24]; int firstarg = 1; errs=0; [Text excludeFromServicesMenu:YES]; NXApp=[[FakeApp alloc] init]; pi=[NXApp printInfo]; // change the target printer ? if (argc > 0 && !strcmp(argv[1], "-p")) { id thePrinter = nil; thePrinter = [NXPrinter newForName: argv[2]]; if (thePrinter != nil) { [pi setPrinter: thePrinter]; } // skip the first two args in print loop below firstarg = 3; } [pi setHorizCentered:NO]; [pi setVertCentered:NO]; #ifdef NX_COMPILER_RELEASE_3_0 [pi setReversePageOrder:YES]; #endif for (i = firstarg; i < argc; i++) { const NXSize large={ 595.27, 1.0e38 }; char *extension; char *rindex(); BOOL isRTFD; extension = rindex( argv[i], '.' ); isRTFD = (extension && (strcmp(extension, ".rtfd") == 0)); if (!isRTFD && !(f=NXMapFile(argv[i], NX_READONLY))) { perror(argv[i]); errs++; continue; } if ( !isRTFD ) { NXGetMemoryBuffer(f, &streambuf, &len, &maxlen); } NXSetRect(&fr, 0.0, 0.0, 595.27, 0); t=[[Text alloc] initFrame:&fr]; [t setMaxSize:&large]; [t setVertResizable:YES]; [t setHorizResizable:NO]; if ( isRTFD ) { [t setMonoFont:NO]; [t openRTFDFrom:argv[i]]; } else if (streambuf&&!strncmp(streambuf, "{\\rtf0\\", 7)) { [t setMonoFont:NO]; [t readRichText:f]; } else { [t readText:f]; } [t sizeToFit]; (void)strcpy(path, "/tmp/.printrtfXXXXXX.ps"); (void)NXGetTempFilename(path, 14); [pi setOutputFile:path]; #if 0 if ( isRTFD ) { NXStream *s = NXOpenMemory(NULL, 0L, NX_READWRITE); int c; [t writeRTFDTo:s]; NXSeek(s, 0L, NX_FROMSTART); while ((c = NXGetc(s)) >= 0 ) printf("%c",c); } #endif [t printPSCode:NXApp]; unlink( path ); // sah if ( !isRTFD ) { NXCloseMemory(f, NX_FREEBUFFER); } } exit(errs); } -- -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cameron Bromley Email : cam@xedoc.com.au Xedoc Software Development Pty. 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From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Nextstep Newsletter Date: 24 Jul 1996 22:30:03 -0700 Organization: The Turbocolor On My Desk Message-ID: <4t70or$q5j@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <152830@cup.portal.com> <4t6l2r$71q@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) wrote: > The next monthly BANG meeting is tomorrow night, so this is very old >news. Maybe most of the info in this posting is almost a month old which >might explain some of the inaccuracies. > This is the third time I saw the same post this month. Yes, it's nearly a month old. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS Starving CS Undergrad...Sorry, I don't *do* Windows! I'd rather starve... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/P/S d-?>pu s+:+> a- C++$>++++ UX++++>$ P+>+++ L+ !E !W++ N+++ !o-- !K w--- O++$ M+ V PS>--- !PE+ Y+ !PGP- t@ 5++ X+++ R- tv b+>++ DI !D G e>+++ h--- r++ y+++** ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
From: "Nicholas Jeremica" <jeremica@seanet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Installing 3.3 on Black Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 01:01:08 -0700 Organization: The Jeremica Family Message-ID: <01bb79ff.6ffb9280$e444b6cc@jeremica> I have a NeXT Station and I cannot figure out how to install 3.3. I have no documentation, only the install disk. I've figured out most of it, I think I need to go into the boot monitor and boot off a floppy. I've found an image on the NeXTAnswers, but I can't get it to work. Can anyone help me! -=Nick -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- a-njerem@microsoft.com -work- jeremica@speakeasy.org -play- jeremica@seanet.com -the whole family- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Nextstep Newsletter Date: 25 Jul 1996 10:13:23 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <4t7hc3$djt@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <152830@cup.portal.com> <4t6l2r$71q@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <4t6l2r$71q@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> On 07/25/96, Art Isbell wrote: > So that absolutely everyone knows what the intials (FCS?) that describe > the release version stand for, would someone please tell the last person in > the world to find out - me ?-) > First customer shipment? > The next monthly BANG meeting is tomorrow night, so this is very old > news. Maybe most of the info in this posting is almost a month old which > might explain some of the inaccuracies. > Umm, yes -- Christopher: I really appreciate your mails, but I just wonder why you're posting this one again? > I'm not sure I believe that. Some at Sun want to scrap OpenStep and > move to Java. But Sun marketing has spent a lot of time convincing Solaris > developers that OpenStep is their future, so changing course at this point > would be a marketing "problem". So I think Sun is holding its nose and > continuing onward toward OpenStep, but without any fanfare. Doesn't sound > serious to me. > The 22 July announcement sounds serious to me :-) Best wishes, mmalc. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: roland@onevision.de (Roland Schwingel) Subject: Mysterious console messages Message-ID: <Dv38zr.80@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:33:27 GMT Hello, I have a question. We have a network of about 30 NextStep computers. Most of the machines are running NS3.3. The servers are running NS3.3 witch Patch1 (Improved DNS). In recent times I have encountered an increasing number of these messages in the console of our machines. Especially on the servers. From /usr/adm/messages .. Jul 24 09:40:43 dali netmsgserver[28]: port_set_add() returned 4 Jul 24 09:42:33 dali netmsgserver[28]: port_set_add() returned 4 Jul 24 09:51:23 dali netmsgserver[28]: port_set_add() returned 4 Jul 24 09:53:34 dali netmsgserver[28]: port_set_add() returned 4 .. Does anyone know what is the meaning of "netmsgserver[28]: port_set_add() returned 4" ? Also I have encountered another strange behavour. We are currently starting to upgrade the clients to NS4.0. I don't know whether this observation is triggered by the upgrade, but I think the network is slowing down, the more machines are equipped with NS4.0. The server are still equiped with NS3.3 Patch1. Has anyone made similar observations ? Thanks for your help, Roland -- ============================================================================ Roland Schwingel OneVision GmbH Developer Zeissstrasse 9 Email:roland@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ============================================================================
From: ehutch@hypnos.norden1.com (E. Hutchinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.jobs.offered Subject: NEXTSTEP/Career Position/ILL Date: 25 Jul 1996 14:21:37 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Message-ID: <4t7vth$8jk@tofu.alt.net> Programmer/analyst/developer NEXTSTEP--------------------Commercial experience Objective C-----------------Commercial experience EOF-------------------------A Plus Sybase or Oracle------------A plus Career Position-------------Outstanding benefits and opportunity Must be---------------------US Citizen or Greencard holder Area------------------------Greater Chicago area To Be Considered------------Fax resume or mail a hard copy. -- ehutch@norden1.com (419) 893-6367 [fax] Omni Search (419) 893-6334 [voice] 1310 Craig Maumee, Ohio 43537
From: Markus Strickler <markuss@gauss.fo.fh-koeln.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PHP for NeXTStep Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 15:40:55 +0200 Organization: FH-Köln Message-ID: <31F77967.432E@gauss.fo.fh-koeln.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! Has anyone out there managed to port PHP to NeXTStep? If so which changes have to be made? This is a log of the compilation errors: cc -I/usr/include/ansi -O -I. -I/www/postgres95/include -DHAVE_LIBPQ=1 -I/www/apache_1.0.5/src -DACCESS_CONTROL -DACCESS_DIR=\"/www/apache_1.0.5/cgi-da ta\" -DLOGGING=1 -DLOG_DIR=\"/www/apache_1.0.5/cgi-data\" -DFILE_UPLOAD -DAPACH E=1 -c local.c local.c: In function `strdup': local.c:87: warning: type mismatch with previous external decl /usr/include/ansi/stdlib.h:62: warning: previous external decl of `malloc' local.c:87: warning: extern declaration of `malloc' doesn't match global one cc -I/usr/include/ansi -O -I. -I/www/postgres95/include -DHAVE_LIBPQ=1 -I/www/apache_1.0.5/src -DACCESS_CONTROL -DACCESS_DIR=\"/www/apache_1.0.5/cgi-da ta\" -DLOGGING=1 -DLOG_DIR=\"/www/apache_1.0.5/cgi-data\" -DFILE_UPLOAD -DAPACH E=1 -c dns.c In file included from dns.c:29: /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netdb.h:15: redefinition of `struct hostent' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netdb.h:28: redefinition of `struct netent' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netdb.h:35: redefinition of `struct servent' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netdb.h:42: redefinition of `struct protoent' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netdb.h:48: redefinition of `struct rpcent' *** Exit 1 Stop. Maybe someone has a clue? Markus -- Markus Strickler Student of Image Science FH Köln, Cologne Germany email: markuss@gauss.fo.fh-koeln.de
From: 3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Networking Windows95 to NeXT Server Date: 25 Jul 1996 17:08:16 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Message-ID: <4t89m0$cca@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> References: <31EDAC79.4D1A@empirenet.com> <4svc65$dun@mo6.rc.tudelft.nl> A. Guyt (guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl) wrote: : Aidan Owens <aowens@empirenet.com> writes : > Okay, I am stuck here: : > : > Have NeXT mainframe available. I want to connect a Windows'95 based PC : > directly to the network. I figure using TCP/IP should work pretty : > standard with the usual DNS and IP info, just like UNIX, NT, etc. : > : > Does anyone have ANY information, ANY experience, or ANY contacts : > whatsoever who might be able to help me out with whether or not this can : > be done? : > : > Please e-mail immediately! : > : > Aidan : > aowens@empirenet.com : Hi, : I am not that much of a networking expert, but from what I know about it I : can give you two options: : - use the TCP/IP protocol : to implement this you will need PC-NFS software for windows95 (not : supported standard) to let windows 'talk' TCP/IP. Look on the web to find : this kind of software for W95. : - use the windows file system protocol : in this case you need to make your nextstep machine 'talk' the : windows file system protocol. You can do this with SAMBA, a free software : package. SAMBA is included in Openstep 4.0 for Mach. I do not know where : to get it for NS 3.3. You can get it from nearly any ftp server. I think the "home" of samba is ftp://samba.anu.edu.au/. It should compile with the GNU compiler from the NeXTstep developer kit. Questions concerning samba can be asked in comp.protocols.smb Eberhard
From: ab@purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Date: 25 Jul 1996 21:04:21 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <4t8ngl$rcv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <Dv220G.3DB@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > It also mentions, around there, the fact that IBM wanted NeXTSTEP (then >NeXTstep, I suppose) for what would be the RS/6000. But this is devolving >into another "what could have been" discussion. Bring on the conspiracy >theories! Better. They had NextStep (as it was then spelled :-) running and available. I have the poster right here which says (in a big ugly menu/titlebar-looking graphic above a white background): IBM RISC System/6000(tm) Family of Products Steps to Usability The next step ...is the AIX NextStep(R) Environment/6000(tm) Includes the productivity tool Interface Builder(tm) [ Picture of IBM monitor S/N:23-A 0 5 4 9 with a NextStep screen complete with black hole and old Directory Browser. ] The poster was given to me by friends inside IBM who saw it running. They sold the product for a while, but I believe IBM and NeXT had a falling out over licensing when 2.0 came out. (No, my poster's not for sale, but I'd scan it if I could find a scanner big enough.) ab
From: ehutch@hypnos.norden1.com (E. Hutchinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.jobs.contract Subject: NEXTSTEP/Contract--Long term-Va Date: 26 Jul 1996 01:41:04 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Message-ID: <4t97ng$7r4@tofu.alt.net> Programmer/analyst/developer NEXTSTEP--------------------Commercial experience Objective C-----------------Commercial experience EOF-------------------------A Plus Sybase or Oracle------------A Plus Contract--------------------Long Term Area------------------------Greater DC Area Must Be---------------------US Citizen or Greencard holder To Be Considered------------Fax resume or mail a hard copy. -- ehutch@norden1.com (419) 893-6367 [fax] Omni Search (419) 893-6334 [voice] 1310 Craig Maumee, Ohio 43537
From: ampriasm@students.wisc.edu (Andrew M. Priasmoro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Machine Won't Bootup. Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 23:16:16 -0400 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Message-ID: <ampriasm-2507962316160001@f180-171.net.wisc.edu> Hi, My NeXT machine won't bootup after I tried to install PPP-2.2.0.4.6. Does anyone have pointers how I go to the command interface so that I can restore my original hostconfig and etc. At least I could see the files in etc directory and edit them using vi editor. Thanks in advance. Andrew. -- Andrew Priasmoro University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: uasilvea@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Adrian Silveanu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: HELP! ATI MACH 64 & NS v3.2 Date: 25 Jul 1996 23:42:23 -0500 Organization: Educational Computing Network, Illinois USA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <4t9ibf$bql@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu> Hello, Would anybody please be so kind to tell me if it is possible to use ATI Graphics Pro Turbo (MACH 64), with NS v3.3 drivers, with NS v3.2? I have already downloaded the NS v3.3 driver (1734.compressed) for ATI Graphics Pro Turbo and have tryed to install it. What happens is that the driver unpacks fine. It installs. It shows up on the driver list. I select it. Save it and restart. As I watch the boot, I see the driver load and then it says it doesn't know what mode to run it in, and goes back to using standard VGA. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Adrian Silveanu uasilvea@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu P.S. Is there another driver I can use if this one will not work? P.P.S. As far as I know there isn't a v3.2 driver for ATI Graphics
From: vhs@nextone.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Accessing Parallel Port Date: 26 Jul 1996 09:53:14 GMT Organization: Bull AG, Langen Message-ID: <4ta4ia$otj@www.langen.bull.de> References: <AlxjCpa00iV_M_tnxz@andrew.cmu.edu> Cc: mahesh+@andrew.cmu.edu In <AlxjCpa00iV_M_tnxz@andrew.cmu.edu> Mahesh Saptharishi wrote: > How do I communicate with the parallel port especially the data, status > and control register using BSD C under NeXT on Sun SparcStation 20? > > The program that I am trying to port uses inb() and outb(), but those > functions seem to be unavailable when you are dealing with a sparc > station. To access the registers of the port directly you need to write a driver. This is about the most difficult thing to do under UNIX. Good luck. Actually, you just open the file /dev/tty[ab] and use the read() and write() system calls to read from or write to the port. But I highly recommend you read some UNIX literature to get a grasp of the UNIX file concept first. Volker
From: woo@woonext.cmo.ornl.gov (John W. Wooten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Can't open defaults database Date: 26 Jul 1996 19:57:29 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <4tb7v9$9u8@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> I'm getting the message can't open defaults database when I try to dread or dwrite. What could be the problem? -- - - - - - - - - - J. W. Wooten
From: edx@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Networking Windows95 to NeXT Server Message-ID: <1996Jul26.153148.83270@cc.usu.edu> Date: 26 Jul 96 15:31:48 MDT References: <31EDAC79.4D1A@empirenet.com> <4svc65$dun@mo6.rc.tudelft.nl> <4t89m0$cca@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Organization: Utah State University > A. Guyt (guyt@is.twi.tudelft.nl) wrote: > : Aidan Owens <aowens@empirenet.com> writes > : > Okay, I am stuck here: > : > > : > Have NeXT mainframe available. I want to connect a Windows'95 based PC > : > directly to the network. I figure using TCP/IP should work pretty > : > standard with the usual DNS and IP info, just like UNIX, NT, etc. > : > > : > Does anyone have ANY information, ANY experience, or ANY contacts > : > whatsoever who might be able to help me out with whether or not this can > : > be done? Yes, I would like to know this too. If my NeXT is the only other machine on the network, do I have to enable DNS networking somehow? Is there something I need to do to get my NeXT to perform network servicing like a "normal" Unix machine? Thanks, - HRC -
From: ampriasm@students.wisc.edu (Andrew M. Priasmoro) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Question about NeXT Mouse. Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:18:44 -0400 Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Message-ID: <ampriasm-2607961718440001@f181-036.net.wisc.edu> Hi, My NeXT Mouse works continuously when it is slightly angled, but when it is not angled only the right button works continuously. The left button sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Is this typical behavior for NeXT Mouse or I need a replacement? If I do, where can I purchase a new NeXT Mouse or at least the good one. One thing wierd I notice from its behavior is that when I tried to straightly align the mouse cable, the left mouse button worked great regardless which orientations I positioned the mouse. I was wondering if any of you Nexter have any idea what's wrong with my mouse. I really appreciate your suggestions and thank in advance. Regards, Andrew. -- Andrew Priasmoro University of Wisconsin-Madison
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Question about NeXT Mouse. Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dv7yAI.Grv@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 20:30:17 GMT References: <ampriasm-2607961718440001@f181-036.net.wisc.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <ampriasm-2607961718440001@f181-036.net.wisc.edu>, Andrew M. Priasmoro <ampriasm@students.wisc.edu> wrote: >Hi, > > >My NeXT Mouse works continuously when it is slightly angled, but when it is not >angled only the right button works continuously. The left button sometimes >works, sometimes doesn't. Is this typical behavior for NeXT Mouse or I need >a replacement? If I do, where can I purchase a new NeXT Mouse or at least the >good one. > >One thing wierd I notice from its behavior is that when I tried to straightly >align the mouse cable, the left mouse button worked great regardless which >orientations I positioned the mouse. I was wondering if any of you Nexter >have >any idea what's wrong with my mouse. I really appreciate your suggestions and >thank in advance. > Sounds as though the cable is broken. Good luck getting a replacement, although you can likely buy a new mouse on c.s.n.marketplace. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Sender: logon@my.bbs (CyberTrader) Date: 28 Jul 1996 12:16:23 EDT Control: cancel <4tdsd7$o58@ns1.autonet.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <4tdsd7$o58@ns1.autonet.net> Message-ID: <cancel.4tdsd7$o58@ns1.autonet.net> Spam/MMF cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was Earn $10,000+\month Working At Home!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: Re: 3.2 -> 3.3?? Message-ID: <DvAn0A.BM@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: news@shinto.nbg.sub.org Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member) References: <4t32m5$b2j@epx.cis.umn.edu> <4t5muo$5lq@news.next.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 07:19:22 GMT Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) wrote: > Jonathan B. Leffert writes > > What are the major differences between NeXTSTEP for Intel user > versions > > 3.2 and 3.3?? > > .. > There are also some bug fixes and performance improvements. Overall, 3.3 > is "just plain better". On the other hand, if you're running on NeXT > hardware, most of the improvements won't apply for you. > AND 3.3 delivers Alt-Minimize-Document dragging which is absolutly a reason to upgrade from 3.2 to 3.3 (or 4.0). It definilty boosts productivity since you don't have to search for already open documents inside the workspace. Now if it only would work with the Open Panel running modal (during this period you can't drag this apps document-minimizers :-( ) Aloha Tomi
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Question about NeXT Mouse. Date: 29 Jul 1996 13:06:18 GMT Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland Message-ID: <4tid0a$1mu3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <ampriasm-2607961718440001@f181-036.net.wisc.edu> <Dv7yAI.Grv@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : In article <ampriasm-2607961718440001@f181-036.net.wisc.edu>, : Andrew M. Priasmoro <ampriasm@students.wisc.edu> wrote: : >My NeXT Mouse works continuously when it is slightly angled, [munch] : Sounds as though the cable is broken. Good luck getting a replacement, : although you can likely buy a new mouse on c.s.n.marketplace. And don't through the old one away, kepp it for spare parts, or send it to a black hardware enthusiast like me :-). I'd try to fix it. Actually, I'd expect it to be not too difficult to fix. You'll probably have to cut off part of the cable and re-wire it to the mouse. Shouldn't be too hard if you are careful. Best wishes, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // +49 6151 16-3414 fax: -5472
From: Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 17:17:54 +0200 Organization: Stockholms Universitet Message-ID: <31FCD622.4449@msi.se> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mmalcolm crawford wrote: > > On 07/23/96, David K. Knox wrote: > > Greetings NeXT enthusiasts! I have scanned two 1991 NeXT brochures and > > placed them on a site for your downloading and viewing enjoyment. There > > are lots of fine pictures and technical specs. The site is: > > http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT/NeXT.html > > In the interests of clarity the images are big ( around 400K each), my > > server is fast so they should load up quickly. I hope you enjoy them. > > > Yes, thanks, although I do have two copies of that brochure in my office. > I also have, however, a copy of what I think(?) is the original brochure, > "Welcome to the NeXT decade" (the one with the black cover, 1' square, circa > 1989). I haven't read it for a while. Interesting reading, particularly > from an academic perspective. On the first page: I browsed through the pages and while reading them I got depressed. What is NeXT now compared to the early 90s? They sell tools instead of a vision. The NeXTstation was the best computer ever built so far and it will probably take a long time until we see another "insanely great" thing. Harald
From: Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 17:18:25 +0200 Organization: Stockholms Universitet Message-ID: <31FCD641.48D1@msi.se> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 07/23/96, David K. Knox wrote: > > Greetings NeXT enthusiasts! I have scanned two 1991 NeXT brochures and > > placed them on a site for your downloading and viewing enjoyment. There > > are lots of fine pictures and technical specs. The site is: > > http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT/NeXT.html > > In the interests of clarity the images are big ( around 400K each), my > > server is fast so they should load up quickly. I hope you enjoy them. > > I browsed through the pages and while reading them I got depressed. What is NeXT now compared to the early 90s? They sell tools instead of a vision. The NeXTstation was the best computer ever built so far and it will probably take a long time until we see another "insanely great" thing. Harald
From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 29 Jul 1996 17:35:08 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <4tisoc$2c4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <31FCD641.48D1@msi.se> Harald Ellmann (ellmann@msi.se) wrote: : On 07/23/96, David K. Knox wrote: : > > Greetings NeXT enthusiasts! I have scanned two 1991 NeXT brochures and : > > placed them on a site for your downloading and viewing enjoyment. There : > > are lots of fine pictures and technical specs. The site is: : > > http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT/NeXT.html : > > In the interests of clarity the images are big ( around 400K each), my : > > server is fast so they should load up quickly. I hope you enjoy them. : > > : I browsed through the pages and while reading them I got depressed. What is NeXT now : compared to the early 90s? They sell tools instead of a vision. The NeXTstation was : the best computer ever built so far and it will probably take a long time until we see : another "insanely great" thing. : Harald Unfortunately, I agree. I bought a NeXTStation Color (with the 21" Hitachi) in late 1992. I plan to use it until it simply won't function any more and couldn't imagine how much of a downgrade it would be to me to move to PC hardware. Possibly moving to a Sun running NEO/OPENSTEP might be better, but I'd still lose all of the nice details like which are important to me, such as: 1. Excellent audio support, especially with the DSP. 2. The well integrated GUI and CLI. 3. True WYSIWYG due to use of Display Postscript everywhere. 4. FAT binaries as new platforms are supported. 5. The best GUI based shareware of any UNIX platform. Try to find comparable apps to SciPlot, Stuart, BackSpace, etc... 6. The low profile, black case. (style counts for much) and I've not even mentioned to development environment. I may not have much faith in NeXT anymore, but I surely prize my NeXTStation. ...................................................................... : Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin : : kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 : :....................................................................:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199607292113.RAA06882@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 17:13:22 -0400 Subject: modem speed -- how to check Cc: nextppp@chinx1.thoughtport.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary When I went shopping for a new modem, I was surprised to see that 99% of the modems I saw did not have any display to show the connection speed. Salespeople told me that most of the modem software does that reporting now. I am wondering how people using modems under NeXTStep check their current modem connection speed (ie 14.4, 19200, 24000, 28.8 etc). I've only been able to get the speed at the time when the connection is made, but that's it. Any help appreciated. Thanks TjL -------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXT info via email: send message with SUBJECT: send-ascii info
From: madler@alumni.caltech.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Date: 29 Jul 1996 21:43:09 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA Message-ID: <4tjb9d$mki@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <31FCD641.48D1@msi.se> <4tisoc$2c4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu In <4tisoc$2c4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Kurt D. Bollacker wrote: " hardware. Possibly moving to a Sun running NEO/OPENSTEP might be better, but " I'd still lose all of the nice details like which are important to me, such as: ... " 3. True WYSIWYG due to use of Display Postscript everywhere. Openstep doesn't deal with display postscript?! How could you port any Next apps to openstep? mark
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Date: 29 Jul 1996 23:21:02 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <4tjh0u$dgc@news.onramp.net> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <4t2tjv$d13@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <31FCD641.48D1@msi.se> <4tisoc$2c4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Cc: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu Kurt D. Bollacker wrote: > Harald Ellmann wrote: > : ... The NeXTstation was the best computer ever built so far and it will > : probably take a long time until we see another "insanely great" thing. > > 1. Excellent audio support, especially with the DSP. > 2. The well integrated GUI and CLI. > 3. True WYSIWYG due to use of Display Postscript everywhere. > 4. FAT binaries as new platforms are supported. > 5. The best GUI based shareware of any UNIX platform. Try to find comparable > apps to SciPlot, Stuart, BackSpace, etc... > 6. The low profile, black case. (style counts for much) > 7. ..and I've not even mentioned to development environment. Here's a few more: HW: * everthing in one box. * No device driver problems or DMA interupts to set * no HW configuration problems. * no compatability problems * no mess of cables - mouse hooks to keyboard, keyboard to sound box, etc. * power, sound and brightness controls on keyboard. printer power controlled by computer. * printers cheap and don't require expensive memory because computer is brains * same power supply works in america or europe * very *FAST* for a 040 machine thanks to VLSI chips to free up processor from IO chores OS&UI: * UNIX - built to connect to IP networks * mult-iuser, multi-tasking, multi-threaded * fast and innovative UI, smooth scrolling, etc. -- Steve Dekorte - OpenStep Developer - Anaheim, CA "Fundamentalism isn't about religion. It's about power." - S. Rushdie
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: modem speed -- how to check Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 08:00:50 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1996Jul30.080050.1748@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <199607292113.RAA06882@nerc.com> In article <199607292113.RAA06882@nerc.com> writes: > I am wondering how people using modems under NeXTStep check their > current modem connection speed (ie 14.4, 19200, 24000, 28.8 etc). > > I've only been able to get the speed at the time when the > connection is made, but that's it. ATX is the Hayes style command that sets result code reporting (at the time of connection, as you say). My SLIP scripts report this to their log files, and I could take more extensive action on it if I wished. The same is true if I were using kermit. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 07:58:10 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1996Jul30.075810.1666@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <4tjb9d$mki@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> In article <4tjb9d$mki@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> madler@alumni.caltech.edu writes: > In <4tisoc$2c4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Kurt D. Bollacker wrote: > " hardware. Possibly moving to a Sun running NEO/OPENSTEP might be better, > but > " I'd still lose all of the nice details like which are important to me, such > as: > ... > " 3. True WYSIWYG due to use of Display Postscript everywhere. > > Openstep doesn't deal with display postscript?! How could you port any Next > apps to openstep? OpenStep does support DPS. I think you just misundertood the original poster. Non-OpenStep apps use whatever cruddy native graphics system exists. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: louie@va.pubnix.com (Louis A. Mamakos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Date: 30 Jul 1996 07:56:04 -0400 Organization: Pubnix Access Systems (Virginia) Message-ID: <4tkt8k$8t1@pub02.va.pubnix.com> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <31FCD641.48D1@msi.se> <4tisoc$2c4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <4tjh0u$dgc@news.onramp.net> Aren't we engaging in some revisionist history here? Some of these features are "bugs". In article <4tjh0u$dgc@news.onramp.net>, Steve Dekorte <dekorte@suite.com> wrote: >Kurt D. Bollacker wrote: >> Harald Ellmann wrote: >> : ... The NeXTstation was the best computer ever built so far and it will >> : probably take a long time until we see another "insanely great" thing. >> >> 1. Excellent audio support, especially with the DSP. Talk to my buddy who tried to the MBONE tools running with the audio support on the next about how "excellent" it was. >> 2. The well integrated GUI and CLI. >> 3. True WYSIWYG due to use of Display Postscript everywhere. >> 4. FAT binaries as new platforms are supported. While this is useful for vendors of software who only have to ship one version of their code, this is less useful to the end user who wastes disk space, and needs to find out about 'lipo'. >> 5. The best GUI based shareware of any UNIX platform. Try to find comparable >> apps to SciPlot, Stuart, BackSpace, etc... Hmm.. having used SciPlot, it's nifty if you can figure out how to make it do what you want. I got to agree with out on Stuart, though. >> 6. The low profile, black case. (style counts for much) Copied, essentially, from the Sun 3/Sparc 1/Sparc 1+/etc pizza box. Though Sun did a better job in the hardware engineering. Just take a look at what they've been doing lately in that style platform. >> 7. ..and I've not even mentioned to development environment. Where else can you find ederly gcc, no C++, and a development environment which doesn't integrate version control? If you exclude IB, it's just not at all clear how PB helps or helps enough to overcome the fact it's much different, can't be scripted, no version control, etc. >Here's a few more: > >HW: > >* everthing in one box. Sun and lots of platforms also at the time. >* No device driver problems or DMA interupts to set Ditto. And I wouldn't say "no device driver problems." There were bugs of omission, like no multicast support for a long time. Then there were just plain bugs: next NeXT Cubes we had would frequently blow chunks and crash in the face of a busy ethernet with collisions, while most other machines were unaffected. I think that SCSI device drivers that don't support synchronous SCSI transfers are just plain broken. >* no HW configuration problems. >* no compatability problems >* no mess of cables - mouse hooks to keyboard, keyboard to sound box, etc. Apple, Sun, etc. before. >* power, sound and brightness controls on keyboard. printer power controlled by computer. Apple before. >* printers cheap and don't require expensive memory because computer is brains Bug and a feature. Don't try to put the printer TOO FAR from the computer though.. >* same power supply works in america or europe >* very *FAST* for a 040 machine thanks to VLSI chips to free up processor from IO chores Oh, please! All this hype over $@#*) DMA controllers! No different that any reasonable workstation platform with bus mastering DMA peripherals. NeXT could have done something unique here with having async serial I/O be DMA driven, but it wasn't supported in the OS on the Cube, and the hardware disappeared on the NextStations. Now, had they had mainframe-style channel processors, that would have been mondo-cool. >OS&UI: > >* UNIX - built to connect to IP networks Complete with antique versions BSD networking code. >* mult-iuser, multi-tasking, multi-threaded >* fast and innovative UI, smooth scrolling, etc. Yup, they actually got this stuff mostly right. And it had taste, too. Louis Mamakos
From: Nick Potkay <npotkay@integ.micrognosis.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: turning on a next station. Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:25:31 -0400 Organization: CSK Micrognosis Distribution: inet Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960730122231.905A-100000@cycle1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Folks, Forgive my ignorance, but I could not find any information regarding turning on a nextstation. This machine has been in the closet for who knows how long and we would like to get rid of it. The keyboard has a power key on it, but just hitting that key doesnt turn the machine on. What is the key sequence to turn on the machine? Also - I am pretty sure that the machine has a root passwd, (which I dont know). How do I go about putting this beast into single user mode? Thanks -Nick
From: alex@starside.rhein-main.de (Alexander F.E. Seggerman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SCSI Errors Date: 30 Jul 1996 19:56:28 GMT Organization: Individual Network - Rhein-Main Message-ID: <4tlpdc$di@starside.rhein-main.de> Hi, I just got myself a Yamaha CDR102, hooked everything up correctly (SCSI ist terminated, no double ID's etc. i.e. theoretically everything sould be fine) to my Adaptec 2940. BUT When the 2940 boots up with its BIOS messages it takes an extremly (maybe 5-10x as long as with my CD-ROM) time to register the Yamaha Drive. If I insert a CD before the bios boots up the registration time is maybe only twice a long as normal. Up to now everything still could be fine but wen NS boots I might get the message 'Resseting SCSI BUS 0 ... I/O Timeout' and from then on the only way to turn off the system is with a hard-reset since the system is alway resetting the SCSI Bus. This resetting doesn't necessary have to happen only during boot time, but also during normal Operation. I have a second drive with W95 but am still installing the system so I can't tell if this effect also happens. HELP !!! alex -- ____________________________________________________________________ Alexander Seggerman Non Electronic: Electronic: Berger Straûe 157 mailto: alex@starside.rhein-main.de D-60385 Frankfurt (NeXTMail & Mime & ASCII) Germany http://www.rhein-main.de/~pstarsid/ Phone: ++49 (69) 468104 FAX: Sorry no FAX
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 17:11:41 +0100 From: Bob Kurhajetz <rk@priscilla.dt.navy.mil> Message-ID: <9607301611.AA06721@priscilla.dt.navy.mil> Subject: looking for any labeling printing apps for Nextstep Hello subject says it all - anyone aware of any label making apps for Nextstep ? Any and all help much appreciated Bob Kurhajetz USN NSWC CD Bethesda, MD 20084
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Images of NeXT sales brochures Date: 30 Jul 1996 19:56:36 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <4tlpdk$306@news.onramp.net> References: <dknox-2307961157270001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> <31FCD641.48D1@msi.se> <4tisoc$2c4@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <4tjh0u$dgc@news.onramp.net> <4tkt8k$8t1@pub02.va.pubnix.com> Cc: louie@va.pubnix.com Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > .... Louis, you can pick out different features and say 'Apple had this and Sun had that', but the big deal with the NeXT is that they took all the cool things and put them in one simple package. With Sun's you're stuck with a brain dead GUI. With Apples you don't have the advantages of UNIX. With MSWindows PCs you have the PC HW nightmare. The NeXT took the Apple GUI and the Sun OS and the PC affordability on put it in one box while at the same time making innovations in the GUI and development tools. That's pretty cool, IMHO. -- Steve Dekorte - OpenStep Developer - Anaheim, CA "Fundamentalism isn't about religion. It's about power." - S. Rushdie

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