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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: OVERDRIVE FOR NeXTcube/station ? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E1GHDo.J8E@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 02:25:00 GMT References: <57cgt7$aeb@scsing.switch.ch> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <57cgt7$aeb@scsing.switch.ch>, Lionel Tinguely <lionel@cyberlab.ch> wrote: > >Hello There ! > >Is there any overdrive cpu to upgrade my NeXTcube and Station with >a 68040 25Mhz CPU !! > Not really. There was the Pyro board, but it wouldn't work with some machines, was flakey with others, was super-solid-nice-n-fast with still others, and was expensive for all. >Will NeXT make an upgrade for his hardware > Not a chance. Pumping up the RAM and getting a fast disk is about all you can do, short of getting a Turbo machine. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: drmsmyth@moonstar.com (William F. Adams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstep on Thinkpad 365x? Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 03:50:25 GMT Message-ID: <329fae21.1705970@news.alterdial.uu.net> References: <slrn5a0sbk.6io.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> A while back, there was a very interesting post made about getting NS going on a TP 755CX--I've saved it, and shall send you a copy. The 365 may be a bit underpowered, and undersized in terms of display area--I'm contemplating installing NS to my 755C, but haven't been able to locate someone with a ThinkPad Dock who'll let me use it for the install. (I'm in Virginia if there's some kind soul out there who's inclined to assist with this...) At NS 3.1, you'll have to have a docking station and SCSI CD-ROM card/drive in order to do the install. NS 3.2 allows installation over a network, which I'd guess would be your case--if it also includes drivers for PCMCIA network cards. I believe it's only at 3.3 (or OS 4.0) which would allow installation via a PCMCIA SCSI CD-ROM. William Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Power Supply Message-ID: <1996Nov26.150640.47145@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch Date: 26 Nov 96 15:06:40 MET The power supply of a friend's NeXTstation quit. He would like to replace it but the local repair company no longer has any devices. Is any one out there willing to part from the power supply (of a otherwise defunct NeXTstation)? Please answer per e-mail. Thanks in advance, Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Sender: btr@trenet.com Date: 30 Nov 1996 22:04:36 EST Control: cancel <32a0c8c6.17338286@nntp.cts.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <32a0c8c6.17338286@nntp.cts.com> no reply ignore Message-ID: <cancel.32a0c8c6.17338286@nntp.cts.com> Spam cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was Be a Beta Tester!
From: drinke@r56h108.res.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: getting a zip drive to work on black hardware Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 26 Nov 1996 16:32:36 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <57f634$cle@smash.gatech.edu> References: <57dr7u$q9@lynx.unm.edu> Colin Eric Johnson (colinj@math.math.unm.edu) wrote: : So I have my zip drive, and I have a DB-25 to SCSI-2 (mini-centronics) : cable, it's plugged into my NeXT cube and the cube has been rebooted. : Why can't I seem to see any of the Zip disks? Is there a disktab entry : I need to add? Is there something special I should do? Any help anyone : can offer is appreciated. No disktab is needed... it should just work. Make sure your cable is good and make sure it is properly terminated. Also, you need to (generally) log into the workspace to mount the disk. -- Dave Rinker Georgia Institute of Technology - Computer Science
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Porting OpenBSD to NeXT Black Hardware Date: 26 Nov 1996 16:24:15 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <57f5jf$8m3@inet-prime.comshare.com> References: <3294E7BE.303B@datasphere.net> Cc: mycroft@datasphere.net In <3294E7BE.303B@datasphere.net> Mycroft wrote: > Greetings- > > I'm going to be porting OpenBSD (http://www.openbsd.org) > to NeXT black hardware. If there is anyone out there interested in > helping, drop me a line... > > .mycroft > I certainly wish you the best of luck... While I still use NeXTStep 3.2/3.3 daily both at home and at work, I don't have much of a migration path... I can't afford OpenStep, and it doesn't seem very desirable anyway. At this point, an OS that would run Java, or even a JavaOS port, would seem my last best hope for doing something other than opening a NeXT museum. I mean no disrespect for what NeXT accomplished... as a complete top-to-bottom environment it still puts everything else to shame, but it's bits and pieces have gotten long in the tooth (some very much so). Whatever NeXT's motives are for (apparently) aggressively killing off the OS and driving away Third Party Developers, hopefully they won't dictate further refusal to release the hardware spec's. If GNUStep could become a reality before Java makes it completely obsolete or irrelevant, that would be cool too. Looking at Marimba's Bongo is an eye opener. Regards, Alan Frabutt alanf@izzy.net disclaimer: I speak for myself, etc...
From: wolfgang@neptun.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Wolfgang Pusch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with NeXTstation Color 21" monitor Date: 26 Nov 1996 16:37:22 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <57f6c2$j3v@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hello, We have a 4 year old NeXTstation Color with 21" monitor. A few days ago the screen became suddently black during work and the monitor seems to be without power because the green light inside the switch was turned off. The cable of the screen, the switch and the station is ok (we checked it). Two days later it worked again (screen was turned off for two days, nobody used it). After 5 minutes it became black again. Turning off and on again illuminated the light in the switch for the part of a second, the monitor remains black. What is the problem? What to do now? Has somebody erperience with that? - Wolfgang
From: rencsok@channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] Some questions about the Demension Board Speed Date: 26 Nov 1996 22:21:28 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <57fqh8$vs7@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <55urm4$ldi@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> <564qn6$6lp@news1.voicenet.com> <568m13$1dui@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <E0xoH2.KHo@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5750bg$fo0@news.wco.com> Cc: mpaque@wco.com In <5750bg$fo0@news.wco.com> Mike Paquette wrote: > dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > > >In article <568m13$1dui@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, <rencsok@channelu.com> wrote: > >> > >>Yeah contact Sandy Hawkins the current daughter card hoarder (he only has > >>2 out of what 5-10 that were produced). The problem with the card was that > >>it ran extremely hot, and the FIFO on the CL550 chip was extremely small > >>making for lots of interrupts to service to clear the FIFO. > > > Apparently the "official" solution from C-Cubed was to use the host CPU (in > >the ND's case the i860) to "throttle back" the pixel clock, thereby preventing > >the FIFO from overflowing. Then, you would hope that you could catch up > >durring vertical blank. > > This means that the chip can't accept video at full video clock rates, > so a dual-ported field store must then be installed between the CL550 > pixel port and the pixel bus. Then some clever soul needs to set up > the throttled 'clock' and addressing for the output of the field > store, and provide a mechanism to detect when the field store has been > 'lapped' (when the CL550 couldn't complete a frame during the blanking > period). (Figure on using 10-12 chips for this...) I'd have to go back and check this but I can believe that the CL550 is a little strapped to handle the data at the full clock speed, and it makes sense to use the vertical blanking time to 'catch up'. But someone would still have to design the interfacing logic for that AND the field store.. Again.. Not enough reason ($$) to do it.. > If you are using the i860 to do this, don't forget to service the > output of the Huffman encoder every 48 usec or less. You'll need to > poll this because the i860 interrupt overhead is too high to reliably > do this interrupt driven. Alternatively, you could put an external > FIFO on the output side of the CL550. (A few more chips...) I had forgetton about this.. More glue logic to buffer the i860 against the brash CL550, and beef up the FIFO buffer (to a page or more I guess?).. Seems like a lot of work.. And again not worth it.. > > This is likely why the PowerVideo card from Parallax can record real-time > >MJPEG video only at 320 x 200 or so. Above that you have to do the encoding > >later in software. > > Yup. > >>Frankly I thought the CL560 was near enough to the CL550 in terms of > >>pin compatiblity to make if feasible. The problem is that there arn't > >>enough > >>ND boards out there to justify the expense of making a daughter card.. > >> > > Nope. Not quite pin compatible, and definitely not signal-compatable > or register-compatible. Yes 'not quite' but pretty darn close.. Compared to the work described above one might as well start with a better chip.. But the FIFO might be still a little small.. I pretty much gave up given the fact that one would have to do quite a bit of work w/o full technical docs/schematics to make it all work. > > Apparently there were about 8000 ND boards made, but I don't know what > >percentage of owners would want an MJPEG daughterboard. Not to mention what > >those who *would* want it would be willing to pay. Parallax charges about $8K > >for the PowerVideo. > > Yup. There's a reason for that price... > Mike Paquette > I think everyone is forgetting the most important problem and that is the FACT that the throuroput on the NeXTBus/i860 really isn't that great, along with the SCSI bottleneck makes doing realtime video on ND painful.. Look at the price of a O2 with video option, and decent RAID (2-4drives) and I'll bet you can put together a full real-time non-linear editing system for under around 10K (the price of above PowerVideo).. 2GB/sec UMA bus is a very nice thing.. Check out http://www.sgi.com/ The only drawback is it don't run NeXTStep .. Ahem.. Openstep.. Randy rencsok@channelu.com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Station SCSI Problem Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 19:58:33 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961130194916.18861A-100000@kira> References: <mpd-ya023180003011961557000001@news.gulf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Mark Pappas <mpd@gulf.net> In-Reply-To: <mpd-ya023180003011961557000001@news.gulf.net> Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com > This is a NeXTstation ADB 040 w/ Quantum 105 running NeXtStep 3.2. When I > run Build Disk on my External HD to make it a boot drive I get this in the > console. Can someone tell me what this means: it could just be a bad block. It could mean that the disk is toast. > Now if your going to say the Quantum is toast thats cool. But my next > question is..... I have NeXTSTEP Release 3 on CDROM. If I make the CDROM > id0 and try to boot it, no good it chokes. So where do I go from here. Release 3.0 or 3.2? You probably need a "boot floppy"... actually it is more of a "kick-boot-floppy". It isn't a floppy you can boot from, but a floppy which will allow your NeXTstation to boot from a device with a 2048 block sector (ie the CD-ROM). If you have one of these disks, put it in the disk drive and boot the computer as "bfd-s" from the NeXT prompt. If you don't have one of those disks, and you don't have access to a NeXT machine to make one, drop me a line with your mailing address and I'll send you a copy. If you don't have one of those disks but DO have access to a NeXT, go to http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers and get NeXTanswer #1883. good luck TjL
From: dbruce@gonzo.cs.uoguelph.ca (David Bruce) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI Mach64 problems Date: 26 Nov 1996 18:29:17 GMT Organization: University of Guelph Message-ID: <57fctt$grm@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> I have an ATI Mach64 card while my Matrox is being sent back to the mfgr. When booting it complains about (from /usr/adm/messages): I/O Ports: Couldn't reserve range 000062ec-000062ef Configuredriver: Could not allocate resources for class ati and complains about IOProbeDriver not finding something (this flys by as the system boots...probably the driver but it seems to be there from my perspective). It then registers good ol' b&w VGA. I've got the latest ATI driver, 3.37 and the card works fine in w95. -- Dave Bruce Computing and Communications Services University of Guelph, Guelph, Ontario 519/824-4120, ext. 6352
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9612011651.AA00724@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Sun, 1 Dec 96 17:51:39 +0100 Subject: Q: Seagate ST12400N (single-ended SCSI of 1994) as a NS3.3 boot disk? Hi there, I am having enormus trouble installing NEXTSTEP 3.3 for Intel on a 3.5" - Seagate ST12400 - 2GB - single-ended SCSI disk. I ended up investing the entire saturday by trying...... :-( At first everything runs normal, the Toshiba XM-3401-CD-ROM is set to id#5 and the Seagate is #3, so the NeXTinstaller picks the Seagate as the startup device. After I chose the right SCSI-controller out of the list (and it works with another disk were I already use 3.3 with (1GB Maxtor)) everything is fine..... ... until there comes a point where the SCSI-bus is reset, followed by the message, something like "... bogus disk info.... ...terminating all processes.. It's safe to turn of the computer!" So the installment is exited, leaving me frustrated for hours. Any hint, anybody...... ??? Has anyone ever used a Seagate ST12400N as a Startup-Disk under NS3.3 for Intel??? I don't know exactly how to partition this drive that the 3.3 Install-routine will work correct?? I would like to have 500 MB for NS and 1500 MB for WinNT. Does anybody know a good shareware-prg. under NeXT or DOS to handle this task (low-level / preformating / partitioning) of this older Seagate Drive. I am kind of desperate....-( Thanx a whole lot in advance..... :-) Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 --- REAL Computing is black! stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail, MIME and ASCII) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ***** PGP key available on request - pretty soon !! *****
From: dr@ripco.com (David Richards) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocac Subject: cancel Control: cancel <01bbdfb9$df4f98a0$2e606d86@nik.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> Date: 2 Dec 1996 03:57:10 GMT Organization: Ripco Communications Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <57tk2m$39u$1@gail.ripco.com> <01bbdfb9$df4f98a0$2e606d86@nik.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> is excessively silly. -- David Richards Ripco, since Nineteen-Eighty-Three My opinions are my own, Public Access in Chicago But they are available for rental Shell/SLIP/PPP/UUCP/ISDN/Leased dr@ripco.com (312) 665-0065 !Free Usenet/E-Mail!
From: frsvnsvn@best.com (Kurt Werle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP DAT woes Date: 1 Dec 1996 17:43:48 -0800 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <57tc8k$bob@shellx.best.com> Keywords: SCSI DAT HP 35480A I have an HP 35480A SCSI DAT drive that used to work, but now does not. I'm looking for ideas on what's wrong... History: This drive certainly worked 2 years ago. May have worked more recent. It has sat unused for quite some time (>6 months) with a tape in it. My HD crashed, and I would now like to save as much data as I can to the tape before I replace the HD. Symptoms: I insert the tape. It does the usual couple of seconds of tape movement (scanning the first few bits?). I type the command 'tar cfv /dev/tape .' (unix system). The tape does some movement at the head of the tape, then it pauses, then it fast-forwards to the end of the tape. It does some more scanning, then rewinds and does nothing. On the console (of my NeXT system) it says: " reselect timeout - target 6 st: cmd = 0x10 sr_io_status = 5H Target 0: BUSY; retry 1 st: cmd = 0x1 sr_io_status = 2H Sense key = 0x6 Sense Code = 0x29 " Is it dead, Jim? Please mail replies to frsvnsvn@best.com. Thanks, Kurt
From: buddyc@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Panasonic PD/CD Drive Date: Sun, 01 Dec 1996 22:00:57 -0800 Message-ID: <32A27099.324A@ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone had any luck getting a PD/CD drive to work on black hardware? It will read CDs all day long ... but if I insert a PD (DOS formatted) it refuses to recognize and asks to initialize it. Any ideas? Thanks!
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any trouble using Matrox Millenium?? Date: 1 Dec 96 16:08:23 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.96Dec1160823@howard.one.net> References: <57q13h$7n8@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> In-reply-to: gcasa@wam.umd.edu's message of 30 Nov 1996 19:14:57 GMT In article <57q13h$7n8@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu>, gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) writes: Has anyone had any trouble using the Matrox Millenium video card under NeXTSTEP?? I need to run it at resolutions up to 1280x1024x256 @ 60Hz. Does anyone know of *ANY* bugs with this card and NEXT's drivers?? I've been using one for a couple months, now, and have seen no problems at all. I did have to get a driver from www.next.com to get things working right under NS3.3, I can't recall if I did the same for NS4.0/OpenStep. You can still install without the drivers, though, it'll just be 640x480 black and white until you get the drivers ... Display.modes says that it can do 1280x1024x8 at 60-90Hz, and also 1600x1200x8 under 2M. You can also do 1152x864x16 with 2M. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any trouble using Matrox Millenium?? Date: Mon, 02 Dec 96 13:59:44 Organization: Lockheed Martin Federal Systems in Manassas, VA, USA Message-ID: <57ujsh$kl0@news.manassas.ibm.com> References: <57q13h$7n8@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> Sometimes ago I posted about a strange behavior concerning the cold start. I suggest the driver for the matrox doesn't initialize the card proper. NeXTStep knows about the situation half a year ago but didn't react. All works perfect with the original driver coming from matorx running under windows. The behavior of my card seems very rare. The problem isn't solved till now. (I am running NS3.3 and use the third release of the driver (Openstep4.0 driver) after trying the driver versions before.) After *my* boot procedure, first windows in hi-res. than NS3.3, I can't state any problem. Henry
From: woo@opus.bloomco.ornl.gov (John W. Wooten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Disktab for Iomega Jaz? Date: 2 Dec 1996 13:43:32 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <57ume4$o7g@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Just got an Iomega Jaz drive to use as a backup device for my 68040 cube. Can't get OD to work for some reason (see previous post). Now I need a disktab for the Iomega. Where would I find one? Or could some kind soul post one? Getting messages when trying to init: /usr/etc/disk -i -h opus -l "Jaz 1GB" -d 1070617600 /dev/rsd2a sd2 (5,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd2 (5,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) disk name: iomega jaz 1GB disk type: removable_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/boot creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd2a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd2a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd2a 1045365 6534 2 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: insufficient space in super block for rotational layout tables with nsect 6534 and ntrak 2. File system performance may be impaired. cylinder group too large (16 cylinders); max: 4 cylinders per group /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd2a failed (status 1) Thanx in advance! -- J. W. Wooten <jwooten@korrnet.org> NEXTSTEP / OpenStep Software Development & Network Consulting Services NeXTmail preferred, MIME is welcome Please finger woo@160.91.216.2 for PGP public key
From: szhwit@svusnet.ubs.ch (Christoph Widmer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems installing NSFIP on Compaq 5133 Date: 2 Dec 1996 11:55:23 GMT Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland Message-ID: <57ug3b-2p7@svusenet.ubs.ch> I've tried to install NSFIP 3.3 on a compaq 5133. After the installation, on the first reboot, the system was asking for the additional driver disk. I entered the disk, but the system couldn't read it. So startet with installation once again and the system could read the AMD driver from the additional driver disk until the reboot, where the floppy read failed. Did anyone of you instal NS on a 5133 with the same problem? Some hints? thanks a lot -- Christoph Widmer EMail: Christoph.z.h.w.i.t.Widmer@ubs.ch ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Union Bank of Switzerland, Zurich
From: sburke@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sean M. Burke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need info on changing/finding ROM password Followup-To: poster Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 15:38:36 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <32a2f7ae.10674443@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> I've got an old cube that I've never known the ROM password to. Now I need to boot it in single user mode, and can't without the password. Is there a hardware way to find out or reset the ROM password? Thanks in advance --- Sean M. Burke -- burke.63@osu.edu Systems Specialist -- University Technology Services 005 Lord Hall 124 W 17th Avenue Columbus, OH 43210 Phone - (614) 292-1458 Fax - (614) 292-3299
From: Timothy Stonis <timothy@sirius.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Multiple Logic Boards in Cube... Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:14:08 -0800 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <329CAF20.122D@sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering if it was possible to put two logic boards into a single NeXT Cube. Does the OS take advantage of having two processors? Thanks. _Tim
From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Disks in black hardware Date: 2 Dec 1996 18:20:42 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <57v6lq$7n4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Anyone have any experience with a Seagate Barracuda drive in a 'slab enclosure? Do they run a bit too hot? What other high-performance mechanisms have people tried, experimented with, liked/hated...? Thanks in advance, gdm
From: root@nxs.math.wisc.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Multiple Logic Boards in Cube... Date: 2 Dec 1996 18:24:28 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <57v6ss$o9o@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <329CAF20.122D@sirius.com> In article <329CAF20.122D@sirius.com> Timothy Stonis <timothy@sirius.com> writes: # I was wondering if it was possible to put two logic boards into a # single NeXT Cube. Does the OS take advantage of having two processors? # Thanks. Yes and no (in that order). Check the FAQ. - Gareth bestor@cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Disktab for Iomega Jaz? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E1sutn.oC1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 18:46:35 GMT References: <57ume4$o7g@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <57ume4$o7g@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>, John W. Wooten <woo@korrnet.org> wrote: >Just got an Iomega Jaz drive to use as a backup device for my 68040 cube. >Can't get OD to work for some reason (see previous post). Now I need a >disktab for the Iomega. Where would I find one? Or could some kind soul >post one? > There's one at the NeXTSTEP Disktab Archive: http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ns-disktab/ I've used it and it seems to work fine. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Ken Overton <kov@jhu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color Turbo Monitor spec Date: Mon, 02 Dec 1996 15:04:42 -0500 Organization: The Johns Hopkins University Press Message-ID: <32A3365A.41C6@jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (This is in a FAQ somewhere, no? Tell me where, please.) A friend of mine has a color turbo NeXT with a dead monitor. I had an extra SGI Indy monitor laying around which seemed to have the same type of connector. Being the innocents that we are we hooked the sucka up to the color turbo NeXTStation and it worked beautifully -- better than the NeXT monitor ever did! What "standard" is this? If SGI and turbo slabs support it, can I assume that other computers will as well? If so, just what the hell is the spec called so I can ask for its appropriate cards, cables and/or t-shirts by name? I figure if you know what I'm talking about you don't need me to describe the pinouts for you. cluelessly, - kov -- Ken Overton kov@jhu.edu Internet Sysadmin JHU Press -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Finger kov@chaos.press.jhu.edu for public key.
From: jkatz@su1.in.net (Jon Katz ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Clock Chip? Date: 2 Dec 1996 22:02:56 GMT Organization: INTERNET Indiana Message-ID: <57vjmg$ao7@lu3.in.net> Greetings! Some OpenBSD developers need to know what kind of clock chip is in the different assortment of NeXT Stations/Cubes. Any info would be greatly appreciated. PLEASE send it to jkatz@mac.edu, NOT THIS ADDRESS! Thanks! -- -Jon jkatz@mac.edu President and CEO, Internet Consulting by Jon Voice: +1 217.479.7309 Box 4454 MacMurray College, Jacoksonville, IL 62650 Personal: http://www.in.net/~jkatz OTHER: http://corinne.mac.edu Resume: http://www.in.net/~jkatz/I-need-a-job.html HOW-TO: http://www.in.net/~jkatz/win95/Linux-HOWTO.html Business: http://corinne.mac.edu/business **
From: victrix@concepts.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: QUALITY HARDWARE! LOW PRICES! Date: 2 Dec 1996 23:05:55 GMT Organization: EuroNet Internet Message-ID: <57vncj$g3o@news.euro.net> For an every week updated pricelist please send us an e-mail at VICTRIX@CONCEPTS.NL Description Price DFL Price USD 3.5" FDD 1.44 MB 36,00 20.50 HD CONNER 850 E-IDE 3.5" 225,00 125.00 HD QUANTUM 1.2 GB E-IDE 5.25" 265,00 149.00 HD MAXTOR 1.6 GB E-IDE 3.5" 345,00 195.00 Intel Pentium 133 Processor 340,00 194.00 Intel Pentium 166 Processor 605,00 345.00 AMD K5 100Mhz 90,00 50.00 Cyrix 5x86 100Mhz 110,00 60.00 Cyrix 486 CPU DX2/80 45,00 25.00 CPU Pentium cooler 10,00 5.50 CPU Heatsinks 486 5,00 2.75 Expertboard Intel 430 VX P75/200 160,00 91.00 Mainboard PT 586-2 P75/200 170,00 97.00 PCI S3-TRIO 64/V+ 1MB EDO 50,00 27.50 PCI S3-TRIO 64/V+ 2MB EDO 75,00 42.50 PCI S3 VIRGE 3D 2Mb EDO 110,00 62.00 Expert Souncard 16bits MED 3241 30,00 17.00 4x CD-ROM DRIVE 50,00 28.50 8x CD-ROM DRIVE 145,00 81.50 Fax/Modem Card 33k6 110.00 62.50 Speakerset 80W 35.00 22.50 100 various Games/Erotic CD-ROMS 275,00 155.00 100 CD-RECORDABLE 74min 650Mb 1050,00 600.00 Keyboard Windows 95 104 Keys 17,50 10.00 MS-compatible Mouse 2 buttons 6,00 3.25 4 Mb Simms 72p 60ns EDO 28,50 16.25 8 Mb Simms 72p 60ns EDO 53,00 30.00 16 Mb Simms 72p 60ns EDO 119,00 68.00 20" SVGA 0.28dp NI/LR 1600x1280 1500,00 859.00 17" SVGA 0.28dp NI/LR 1280x1024 850,00 489.00 15" SVGA 0.28dp NI/LR 1280x1024 400,00 230.00 14" SVGA 0.28dp NI/LR 1024x768 300,00 170.00 Bigtower Computercase 85,00 47.50 Miditower Computercase 65,00 37.00 Minitower Computercase 35,00 20.00 Please note. Minimum order amount Dfl. 2500,00 or USD $ 1250.00. Domestic shipping and handling Dfl. 25.00. Prices are ex. 17.5% VAT. Overseas orders plus USD $ 50. All foreign orders must be in USD and transferred to Victrix Developments by T/T. Prices may change on a daily basis due to exchange rates etc. All orders are to be confirmed by us through FAX or E-MAIL.
From: jsowers@lehman.com (Justin Sowers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: old Apple CDROM and CDPlayer.app Date: 02 Dec 1996 16:27:51 -0500 Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc. Sender: jsowers@cfdev1425.cfdev.lehman.com Message-ID: <v6henh8r608.fsf@cfdev1425.cfdev.lehman.com> Hi. I have an _ancient_ Apple CD150e external CDROM drive (an old SCSI Sony CDROM on the inside - CD033A?) that works fine [slow, but fine] for loading data from CD onto my cube. I would, however, like to play music from the sad little thing, as well. I know that this unit will work for such things (I have a demo program for a mac that will make it play music CDs), but CDPlayer.app doesn't seem to like the thing. I get a console full of SCSI errors, and if I persist eventually my machine locks up. Has anyone gotten any CDROM app to work with the 150 and play music? I'm trying to squeeze all that I can out of this old machine... Thanks in advance for any advice. -Justin. (jsowers@lehman.com)
From: drinke@r56h108.res.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Disktab for Iomega Jaz? Date: 3 Dec 1996 00:27:13 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <57vs51$eib@smash.gatech.edu> References: <57ume4$o7g@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> John W. Wooten (woo@opus.bloomco.ornl.gov) wrote: : Just got an Iomega Jaz drive to use as a backup device for my 68040 cube. : Can't get OD to work for some reason (see previous post). Now I need a : disktab for the Iomega. Where would I find one? Or could some kind soul : post one? This disktab entry works on my 68040 cube: iomega jaz|iomega jaz 1GB|iomega jaz 1GB G.5512/1:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#1021:nt#64:ns#32:ss#512:rm#5394:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:\ :pa#0:sa#2045952:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#3:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: -- Dave Rinker Georgia Institute of Technology - Computer Science
From: "Mark Bessey" <MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Multiple Logic Boards in Cube... Date: 2 Dec 1996 22:47:20 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <01bbe0a4$57357480$3e031281@bananajr> References: <329CAF20.122D@sirius.com> Timothy Stonis <timothy@sirius.com> wrote in article <329CAF20.122D@sirius.com>... > I was wondering if it was possible to put two logic boards into a > single NeXT Cube. Yes. You just have to modify the backplane to set the slot ID's of the slots to 0. And remove any NeXTbus interface chips on the motherboards. There's a document out on the net somewhere that explains how to do this... >Does the OS take advantage of having two processors? Not exactly. Think of it as two computers in the same box, rather than one computer with two processors. > Thanks. > > _Tim > Hope this helps, -Mark (p.s. The modifications to the backplane are trivial. I got one hacked up from memory in about 15 minutes... now, if I can just find a few more "underutilized" cubes, I'll be all set)
From: jsn@audiospeech.ubc.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEC Versa 2400 laptop compatibility Date: 2 Dec 1996 22:26:27 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <57vl2j$6p8@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Is the NEC Versa 2400 laptop compatible with NEXTSTEP 3.3/Openstep 4.x? Has anyone had experience with this system using NEXTSTEP/Openstep? Thanks for any information that can be provided. ... John -- John Nicol School of Audiology and Speech Sciences University of British Columbia Electronic mail: jsn@audiospeech.ubc.ca (NeXTmail welcome)
From: klaus@chemlab.unm.edu (Klaus Kunze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Running a color slab with no monitor Date: 2 Dec 1996 19:48:35 GMT Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Message-ID: <57vbqj$84d@lynx.unm.edu> References: <57jcf0$hjq@olcs.olcs.com> otto@olcs.com (Otto Lind) wrote: > Hi, > I've converted all of my applications to use a Solaris machine with Afterstep as the window manager, and no longer need my color NeXTStation to perform any user interface "duties". The Next will still operate to provide following tasks in a server capacity: > NeXT printer, INN news, SMAIL mail, POP3 mail, Samba, > Xdm, DDS tape backup, and NFS (I love Unix!). > I was wondering if there are any problems with running the slab with no monitor. I have a 21" color monitor on it right now, and would like to put the thing in storage, and stick the slab under the NeXT printer. I assume there would be no problems in running the machine with no monitor cable hook up to it, correct? It's on an UPS system, and has been running for 140 days (since I last reconfigured it; it has never crashed on me). I'm just a little worried that the slab's video electronics might wig out if no monitor is attached. > Any info would be appreciated, > Otto > > Otto Lind Softwire Corporation (North office) > otto@olcs.com 12125 285th street, Lindstrom, MN 55045 > skypoint!olcs!otto voice:(612)257-1259 fax:(612)257-0923 I once ran my color NeXTStation as a server without any monitor attached (it has been sent off for repair for 3 weeks). I could access everything I needed on that server remotely from a NeXT Client. No problems encountered. Klaus -- ********************************************************* Klaus Kunze, University of New Mexico, Dept. of Chemistry Albuquerque NM 87131, Phone: (505) 277-3246 or (505) 272-7483 E-mail (NeXTmail): klaus@chemlab.unm.edu E-mail: kkunze@unm.edu *********************************************************
From: YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 15:34:04 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32A3C9CA.70EA@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961202103456.5718H-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy Luoma wrote: > > Here's what I'm looking to do: > > 1) prevent brief power fluxes from screwing up my machine, ie monitor, HD, > EZ135 drive, and modem (my printer is usually off, so I'm not too > worried about it) > > 2) give nice, clean, even power > > 3) allow me to do clean power downs when power fails completely (more than > a few minutes) > > Anyone with suggestions, please let me know. Especially helpful is > product #s and prices paid for them. > > Thanks > > TjL > > -- > Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) > http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Check out the following web site for UPS software and UPS on the NeXTSTEP runs on HP, SPARC, INTEL and NeXT. http://www.benatong.com/ YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP News written by Korean)
From: YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 21" Monitor cable Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 15:38:38 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32A3CADA.1D22@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <01bbdfcb$1527b6e0$367098cf@darby.wwa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Brad Skrbec <skrbec@wwa.com> Brad Skrbec wrote: > > I have a 21" (Sony) Monitor for my trusty old black NeXTstation turbo, and > I'd like to put the monitor on my PC. Unfortunately, the cable is a little > unusual, with 3 "coax" type connectors inside of the monitor side connector > of the cable.. Anyone know if and how this can be done? > > Please email me at skrbec@wwa.com, as I don't always catch the news as it > goes by... > > Thanks in advance, > Brad Check out the following web site for your connection. http://www.si87.com/other.html YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP News written by Korean)
From: finton@cs.wisc.edu (David J. Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need help getting MO drive recognized by Workspace Date: 3 Dec 1996 00:07:10 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <57vqve$2o0m@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <57rj09$94s@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I wrote: >I'm going nuts. I bought an Olympus SYS.230, which takes the >same 230 MB disks as the Fujitsu DynaMO. I connected the drive >and rebooted, and everything Just Worked. But after that first >time, it's iffy. The problem is that most of the time the disk >name shows up in the file browser ... but not on the shelf. So I can't eject the disk! It's no longer "removable media"! But floppies still do work correctly... I just noticed a new error in my Console window, and I have a hunch that it could be related to this problem. To verify, I rebooted and logged in again. The system complains about not being able to find a config file. Can anyone tell me *what* config file it's not finding? This is for a TurboColor slab running NS 3.2. I just logged in, and the CD-ROM and mo drive both had disks in them. Then I eject the CD-ROM, and further attempts to eject (the mo disk) are greeted with the system beep. Here's what I see in Console: Software Version 3.2 (Lightning5S) probing for CDROM Error: Cannot read configuration-file! Error: Cannot read configuration-file! CDROM File System: LOADED CDROM File System: Initialized Dec 2 17:29:42 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /NEBULA Dec 2 17:29:42 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /BackUp2 Dec 2 17:30:17 Workspace: Unmounted foreign disk at /NEBULA Help? Thanks, David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Date: Mon, 2 Dec 1996 15:25:25 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961202103456.5718H-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com Here's what I'm looking to do: 1) prevent brief power fluxes from screwing up my machine, ie monitor, HD, EZ135 drive, and modem (my printer is usually off, so I'm not too worried about it) 2) give nice, clean, even power 3) allow me to do clean power downs when power fails completely (more than a few minutes) Anyone with suggestions, please let me know. Especially helpful is product #s and prices paid for them. Thanks TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat
From: yong@charlie.cns.iit.edu (Yong J. Yoo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: PPP setup Date: 3 Dec 1996 04:06:36 -0600 Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology Message-ID: <580u3c$j13@charlie.cns.iit.edu> hi, can anyone show me how to set up PPP in OpenStep 4.0??? I've been trying to follow the examples to figure it out but when I type "pppd" command it says the pppd is not available in this system. thanks in advance Yong Yoo yong@charlie.cns.iit.edu
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next BW monitor: Can it be switched off? Date: 3 Dec 1996 13:37:42 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <581af6$jql@inet-prime.comshare.com> References: <329EEB2F.4955@austria.ds.philips.com> Cc: sholzing@austria.ds.philips.com In <329EEB2F.4955@austria.ds.philips.com> Stefan Holzinger wrote: > Hi! > > I know it's a stupid thing but I'd really like to be able > to switch off the monitor without shutting down the system. > Since this machine is rather slow <weep!> compared to modern > systems my mono station will eventually end up as printer > and/or fax/modem server. But I'd like to be able to use it > directly still. > And being from the 4000A series it would lose its brightness fast... > > Is it as simple as installing a switch turning off +12V and > -12V for the CRT PCB or would this turn off the communication > board, too - confusing the system? > Is the power supply capable damping the switch on/off spikes > or will it damage my system? > > Has someone tried this? > > A marginally related question: is there a 'screen saver' available > turning off the next laser printer when unused over a longer time > interval? > > Thanks for any idea/comment/reply (mail preferred), > Stefan > > ** Simplicity is the natural result of profound thought ** > Don't know about the monitor... for the printer, make a crontab entry that does: /usr/etc/nppower off every hour, or at whatever regular intervals. My understanding is that this won't interrupt the printer if it is active. The printer will power back up on demand, as soon as something is queued. Regards, Alan Frabutt alanf@izzy.net
From: r.daher@csuohio.edu (Rony Daher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS Install on Cube Date: 3 Dec 1996 18:53:05 GMT Organization: Cleveland State University Message-ID: <r.daher-0312961400520001@venus.csuohio.edu> Greetings, I have a NeXT Cube (33Mhz Turbo). This machine needs to have the HD formatted and the NEXTSTEP 3.3 installed. My problem is the following: This machine had the Turbo upgrade board which disabled the optical drive. I don't have a floppy drive on this machine, so I do I go about re-initializing the disk to install 3.3? Is it possible to boot from the CD-ROM with the NS 3.3 CD-ROM, or do I need to configure the Cube to boot from the Ethernet? Any suggestions are appreciated. Please mail reply. Rony Daher Network Support Technician Cleveland State University -- Rony Daher Network Support Technician Cleveland State University
From: jessica@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Severin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openstep 4.0 mach runs great on Cyrix 6x86 P166+ (mostly) Date: 3 Dec 1996 19:03:10 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <581the$2h96@news.doit.wisc.edu> Hello everyone I've successfully upgraded my Dell Dimension P90 with a Tyan Tomcat III/512KB cache (S1563s) motherboard and a Cyrix 6x86 P166+GP cpu. The performance of the system is quite good. The only problem is that the following software hangs the CPU: The NextStep 3.3 operating system kernel OmniWeb 2.x I've got a dual boot machine and the Openstep Mach 4.0 partition boots and runs fine, but the 3.3 partition doesn't boot. I'm positive it's the Cyrix chip because I replaced the 6x86 with a Pentium 133 (everything else the same) and both Nextsep3.3 and Omniweb 2.x ran fine. I'm running the following hardware: Tyan Tomcat IIIs (S1563s) Cyrix P166+GP (133Mhz) #9 GXE64Pro (4MB) 64MB Ram (32MB EDO, 32MB FPM) Adaptec 2940 SCSI controller Seagate st43400N (3GB 5.25" Elite) Quantum PD1800S (1.8GB 3.5" drive) SMC8432T ethernet adapter SoundBlaster 16ASP All other Next software ran perfectly fine. I've tried the following software without any problems: All shipped next software including NextTime Create 2.0 Fiend 1.4 Appsoft Image Academy (a CAD program) Alexandra 0.82 Yftp Mathematica 2.2 Co-Xist OmniWeb 1.0 (not any of the 2.X versions) I ran several Benchmarks with the system NWBench Dhrystone 212,765 Mips 135mips v/v = 28.43 d/v=4.47 ether 0.643 disk 4632.0 MB/sec Webster 18.71 Compile 7.74 NXBench 2.0 Dhrystone 212,765 Mips 135 NXFactor 2.733 (yes!) line 2.65452 arc 2.59750 fill 1.94624 transform 4.65773 composite 2.23033 userpath 4.28863 text 2.17148 window 1.32038 The same system with a Pentium 133 instead of the Cyrix gave Dhrystone 189,873 mips 120.5 NXFactor 1.77 The only failing of the Cyrix 6x86 is with heavy Floating Point Number crunching. The FP unit on the Cyrix is not pipelined like the Pentium, but it does have a 4 FP instruction queue. For those that don't know the 6x86 is a Socket7 pin out (same as Pentium) but basically has a Pentium Pro integer/instruction unit (see http://www.cyrix.com). Because the CPU can do out of order execution, if your ratio of Integer to Floating Point instructions is moderate, the integer pipeline shouldn't stall even If the FPU queue is pretty full all the time. What this means is that operations like Display Postscript (which I believe do use FP instructions) and CAD run fast because it also uses a lot of integer instructions, but pure FP number crunching will run slow. We have an Data processing program for processing and analyzing data from Automated DNA sequencers. Most of the processing operations use a fair mix of Integer and FP instructions, except for one step (deconvolution which is VERY FP intensive). Here are some times comparing processing of one data set on the different processors Cyrix 6x86 P166+ (133Mhz) 117.0 secs (for the deconvolution step) 15.6 secs (for all other processing steps) ------------------------------ 132.6 secs (total) Pentium 133 68.0 secs (for the deconvolution step) 10.0 secs (for all other processing steps) ------------------------------ 78.8 secs (total) The next generation 6x86 (called the M2) is going to have a MMX compatible, pipelined FP unit. This chip is dues out next year. Two good sites for info on Motherboards and the Cyrix 6x86 are Tom's Harware and Performance Guide http://sysdoc.pair.com Cyrix upgrade advice guide http://www.ionet.net/~rbdavis Jessica Severin --- Jessica Severin \ Programmer / Analyst jessica@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu \ UW Madison Dept. of Chemistry
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Disks in black hardware Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 14:07:33 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Ymd7dpu00UhWM27GN5@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <57v6lq$7n4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In-Reply-To: <57v6lq$7n4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 2-Dec-96 Disks in black hardware by Gian-Paolo Musumeci@kest > Anyone have any experience with a Seagate Barracuda drive in a 'slab > enclosure? Do they run a bit too hot? I would recommend against it. Barracudas run hot, and I would not consider putting one in anything except an external enclosure with a decent fan. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ATI Mach64 problems Date: 3 Dec 1996 17:04:03 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <581mi3$pn9@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <57fctt$grm@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> In-Reply-To: <57fctt$grm@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> On 11/26/96, David Bruce wrote: > I have an ATI Mach64 card while my Matrox is being sent back to the mfgr. > When booting it complains about (from /usr/adm/messages): > I/O Ports: Couldn't reserve range 000062ec-000062ef > Configuredriver: Could not allocate resources for class ati > and complains about IOProbeDriver not finding something (this flys by as > the system boots...probably the driver but it seems to be there from my > perspective). It then registers good ol' b&w VGA. > I've got the latest ATI driver, 3.37 and the card works fine in w95. > I have a similar problem with a machine I have just installed which has a Mach64 build onto the motherboard. I note from NeXTAnswers http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1735.htmld/1735.html "The Mach64 driver makes use of the board's BIOS to switch modes. This requires the user to set up the display adapter as specified in the documentation supplied by ATI. This will usually require running a setup utility. Until this is done, not all supported display modes will be available." I wonder if this might be the problem, and if so what is the magical incantation one must perform to set up the display adapter? Unfortunately the only documentation I have is on a CD-ROM and refers only to Windows... Best wishes, mmalc. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Next BW monitor: Can it be switched off? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E1uK5w.3px@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 16:51:32 GMT References: <329EEB2F.4955@austria.ds.philips.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <329EEB2F.4955@austria.ds.philips.com>, Stefan Holzinger <sholzing@austria.ds.philips.com> wrote: > >Is it as simple as installing a switch turning off +12V and >-12V for the CRT PCB or would this turn off the communication >board, too - confusing the system? >Is the power supply capable damping the switch on/off spikes >or will it damage my system? > A while ago it was decided that there's no reliable way to turn off the monitor. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: How do I move from a Cube to a PeeSee? Message-ID: <1996Dec3.172140.28272@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 96 17:21:40 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA Because of a situation beyond my control (commercial software packages for our business), we will be moving to an NT network sometime in the next year and I am looking for the best approach at home. One idea I had was to get a PeeSee and network it to my NeXT. However, the feedback I got is that this is not as easy as it should be. This is my favorite idea because I can get away with a smaller PeeSee. Therefore, if you have any thoughts along the lines of "this is really trivial and here's how to do it" I would like to hear them. My latest idea is to shut down the Cube and move everything to a PeeSee. I already know I will want to run SCSI so I can use my present drives and DAT backup unit (but what about my SCSI scanner?). How hard is it to run NT and NEXTSTEP on the same system? What about file transfers and stuff like that? I run NS3.3; can I just re-install it on the new machine? Both Dell and Micron have SCSI based systems that come with large drives. I am sure others do as well. However, can these do the job or do I need other stuff? If anybody who has done this will share their experiences I would be happy to hear them. I understand NeXT Answers has some info on running NEXTSTEP on a PeeSee. Can anybody direct me to what I need to read? Also, does this assume JUST NEXTSTEP or the dual system approach I am contemplating. If I am going to do this, I need to spend the money before 12/31 (budget stuff) so if you can help. please let me know ASAP. Thanks, Bob -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: cordoverm@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NExt Laser Printer Date: 3 Dec 1996 17:48:19 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961203174900.MAA10353@ladder01.news.aol.com> I need information on the location of and/or phone number for a company called Decsion One in California. They have supplies for the Next Laser Printers- I need a sprocket for the paper roller at the exist of the paper channel.
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ultra SCSI: compatible? Date: 3 Dec 1996 20:32:10 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5822ob$i0b@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Hi evryone, since memory and disk space can be bought at reasonable prices, we are considering upgrading our black and white Nextstep hardware. An interesting candidate is the Quantum Fireball, the 2G version can be had for around 300 USD here in Germany. I am aware that this is not the fastest disk on this planets surface, but for black HW and an older Adaptec 2940 it shouldn't make be much of a difference. :) Now my question: this disk can be bought in Ultra versions only, and it has become quite difficult to by any non-Ultra or -Wide SCSI disks these days. The manual claims that they are backwards compatible, but is this really the case? Can I we a Ultra disk in a slab or cube? Many thanks in advance, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: lusty@aimnet.com (Lusty Wench) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ATI Mach64 problems Date: 3 Dec 1996 13:18:30 -0800 Organization: Aimnet Corporation Message-ID: <5825f6$h4a@shell1.aimnet.com> References: <57fctt$grm@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> <581mi3$pn9@bignews.shef.ac.uk> In article <581mi3$pn9@bignews.shef.ac.uk>, mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: > >I note from NeXTAnswers > http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1735.htmld/1735.html > >"The Mach64 driver makes use of the board's BIOS to switch modes. This >requires the user to set up the display adapter as specified in the >documentation supplied by ATI. This will usually require running a setup >utility. Until this is done, not all supported display modes will be >available." > >I wonder if this might be the problem, and if so what is the magical >incantation one must perform to set up the display adapter? Unfortunately >the only documentation I have is on a CD-ROM and refers only to Windows... ATI ships the card with a utility that you run to configure the display mode. If yours is built into your motherboard, you may not have received this utility. If that's the case, bitch to whoever made the motherboard. You might be able to download the utility from ATI--http://www.atitech.ca Lusty
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 17" to PC 15-pin VGA adapter. Pointers? Date: 3 Dec 1996 21:26:38 GMT Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC. Message-ID: <5825ue$24j@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <32a3be30.4757622@snews2.zippo.com> Cc: mjs@softnc.com In <32a3be30.4757622@snews2.zippo.com> Mike Sorensen wrote: > I have a nice lookin 17" monitor here for a NeXT color workstation and > have heard that I can get an adapter to hook it up to PC's. > > Can anyone refer me to a supplier? > This task is hard than it seems... the NeXT monitors is fixed frequency - only 1172 x 892 in 68 Hz and need the sync (h/v) mixed in the green signal. Better get a nice multisync and sell the NeXT screen to a NeXT, Sun or HP user. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: bnd00796@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NExt Laser Printer Date: 3 Dec 1996 21:47:54 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961203214900.QAA14688@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <19961203174900.MAA10353@ladder01.news.aol.com> >I need information on the location of and/or phone number for a company >called Decsion One in California. They have supplies for the Next Laser >Printers- I need a sprocket for the paper roller at the exist of the paper >channel Decision One 1-800-499-NeXT 2323 Industrial Parkway West Hayward, CA 94545
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hibino@cpnx3.b6.kanagawa-u.ac.jp (Kinya Hibino) Subject: Help: CT65550 Memory Map Message-ID: <E1u3MI.x1@kochi.cc.kanagawa-u.ac.jp> Sender: news@kochi.cc.kanagawa-u.ac.jp (News Manager) Organization: Computer Center, Kanagawa University, Kanagawa, Japan Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 10:54:18 GMT Does anyone use a laptop based a CT65550 video chipset? Please tell me its memory map on NEXTSTEP. Thank you in advance. -- | K.Hibino, Faculty of Engineering, Kanagawa University | hibino@icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp (for Research) | hibino@cpnx3.b6.kanagawa-u.ac.jp (NeXT/MIMEmail welcome) | http://www.kanagawa-u.ac.jp/WWWfolks/hibino.html -
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: POSTSCRIPT on non-PS printer Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 07:14:56 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.961203070818.315A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm running NS3.3 for Intel and am about to purchase a color inkjet like an HP 870. I print a lot of TeX file with embedded postscript images. Since the HP870 (and most other affordable printers) don't do postscript, can I work around this? Any other printer suggestions? Thanks. Robert Jacobs
From: Russell Petersen <russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Becoming root on next machines? Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 11:24:47 -0700 Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <32A4706F.5F35@valhalla.fc.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, we have some old cubes and nextstations that we do not have root on anymore (lost the password). Anyways, we need to get on a clean off some old data to get them ready for sale. How do you become root without the password? Is there not some way using the monitor program to defeat the security system. It is probably an old version of Nextstep on the machines (3.0 at most). -- Russell J. Petersen ***** ***** VLSI Design Engineer *** /_ __ *** Hewlett Packard ICBD ** / / /_/ ** 3404 E. Harmony Rd. *** / *** Phone: (970) 229-7007 Ft. Collins, CO 80525 ***** ***** fax: (970) 229-6580 email: russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com All opinions are my own, of course, and reflect nothing about HP.
From: mjs@softnc.com (Mike Sorensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT 17" to PC 15-pin VGA adapter. Pointers? Date: Tue, 03 Dec 1996 05:44:47 GMT Organization: Zip News Message-ID: <32a3be30.4757622@snews2.zippo.com> I have a nice lookin 17" monitor here for a NeXT color workstation and have heard that I can get an adapter to hook it up to PC's. Can anyone refer me to a supplier? Thanks. mjs@softnc.com
From: "·¨©s¾Ë" <batmon@abico.com.tw> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: More than one CPU on OPENSTEP?? Date: 4 Dec 1996 01:00:02 GMT Organization: ¨Î¯à¥ø·~ Message-ID: <01bbe17e$d331b640$39ee45cb@abico.com.tw> Two questions here; 1. Can OPENSTEP for Intel install into a PC which has 2 or more Pentium Pro CPU on it, and how OPENSTEP controll or share the resource to these CPU (OPENSTEP for Mach, not OPENSTEP for NT) ?? 2. What is the maxium RAM that OPENSTEP can handle?? Please HELP!!! Thank you batmon@abico.com.tw
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Shutting off the NeXT Printer (Re: Next BW monitor: Can it be switched off?) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:30:46 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961203172557.26719A-100000@kira> References: <329EEB2F.4955@austria.ds.philips.com> <581af6$jql@inet-prime.comshare.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <581af6$jql@inet-prime.comshare.com> Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com This is really now a software post, but anyway... To shut off the NeXT Laser Printer, you can use this: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/npoffd.gz gunzip it and move it to /usr/local/etc/npoffd and add this to /etc/rc.local # run daemon which will power off NeXTPrinter when not in use if [ -x /usr/local/etc/npoffd ]; then (sleep 5; /usr/local/etc/npoffd 900) & (echo -n ' npoffd') >/dev/console else (echo ; echo "ERROR: can't find npoffd!") >/dev/console fi you can change "900" to any # of seconds you wish.... It's quite handy. TjL ps -- you can also get it via email by sending me a BLANK email with the SUBJECT send-mime npoffd.gz or, if you can't get MIME mail, send-uuencoded npoffd.gz
From: armin@messe.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Subject: NeXTCube / OD Problems (was: OD cause system not to boot) Date: 3 Dec 1996 09:55:40 -0800 Organization: Zip News Sender: usenet@ftp.zippo.com Message-ID: <581pis$gdo@lana.zippo.com> In his article in comp.sys.next.hardware from the 29th of Nov. John W. Wooten wrote: > I have an OD drive on my NeXTCube, that if I connect the small black cable > from it to the board above it, causes my system to wait for the SCSI drive > to mount. If I disconnect the top (last) part of the cable from right > beside the SCSI cable on the board that is mounted above the OD and below > the HD, then the system boots and runs fine (no OD of course). The OD > won't lock a disk into place and I get some error #58 if I tried to boot > from it when it was connected. I have the same difficulties to get my OD back to work. After a few connects and disconnects the cube starts up fine even with the OD connected. So i've inserted a disk, but the OD won't get regognized by the system. I even had to eject the disk the hard way, because the "ej" command in the rom-monitor wasn't able to recognize the OD. The result is that the OD's eject mechanism is stuck and won't let me insert a disk for testing. I'm not sure if the following print-out from the ROM monitor is related to this problem (after printing the SCSI stuff): odc0 0x2112000 odc0 at odc0 slave 0 odc1 at odc0 slave 1 I'm a little confused about the third line... especially because i get this message even when the OD cable isn't even connected to the main board. Any suggestions as to what the problem might be and how to repair the eject mechanism? -- Armin Retzko, email: armin@messe.de
From: lofgrm@shell.aros.net (Mark Lofgren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS:systems and keyboards Date: 5 Dec 1996 14:09:46 GMT Organization: ArosNet Inc. Message-ID: <586l3a$8mu@news.aros.net> I have some cubes, and some stations for sale. All with ns 3.3, keyboards and mice, and monitors. I also have lots of extra keyboards. For more information email lofgrm@aros.net or bheugly@aros.net. -- Mark Lofgren mark@my-place.com ************************************************** * * *I daydreamed that I was falling and, just before* * I hit the ground, I fell asleep. * * * **************************************************
From: mrbill@texas.net (Bill Bradford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Date: 5 Dec 1996 14:42:17 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <586n09$a9g@news3.texas.net> References: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961202103456.5718H-100000@kira> <582tst$1u0@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5849d3$79o@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <585shj$21si@uni.library.ucla.edu> S. Port (scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu) wrote: : As an alternative to a UPS you might consider : a device called a Power Wedge. I installed one : in 1992 - just before UPSes became affordable. : Power Wedge is a hi end audio line conditioner : intended for use on hi end stereo equipment. : I'm pretty fanatical about saving so I'm : personally not worried about losing unsaved : work. Furthermore, I don't leave my machine : running when I'm not home - its a standalone : ND system with two monitors. and several : external SCSI devices. : The specs on the device are equivalent or : better than most UPSes. It has six outlets, : two of which are digital specific - they : detect when a digital device is plugged : into it. Um, there's no way for something to tell if an object drawing power from something is "digital" . . . . its all the same AC power.... sounds like you got taken, if you paid extra for this.. A stereo component may use digital technology, but the power supply in it is analog as ever.... : All devices run nearly silently, hard disks : run at higher pitch (meaning faster). I'm : totally satisfied. Um, there's no way for a power outlet to make hard drives run faster - they run at the RPM they were designed to run at... if they ran faster, they wouldn't work. : I paid $219 in '92, I think they're $199 now. By the way it sounds, I wouldn't pay $10 for one. You can get a good 600 watt APC UPS (I've had nothing but great results from the brand and the company in general, having formerly worked for a dealer) for around $150.... : Reseller is Audio Adviser - 800-942-0220. Sounds like they couldnt advise their way out of a paper bag... did they sell you a magic marker to make your CDs sound better too? -- bill bradford system admin, unix geek, super hero, BOFH mrbill@texas.net texas networking, inc. http://www.texas.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "And the temple of love grows old and strong; But the wind blows stronger, cold and long; And the temple of love will fall before this black wind calls my name to you no more." - Sisters of Mercy, "Temple Of Love"
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any trouble using Matrox Millenium?? Date: 5 Dec 1996 03:00:04 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <585drk$sg5@nntp1.best.com> References: <57ujsh$kl0@news.manassas.ibm.com> <584g42$gsf@news.tuwien.ac.at> In-Reply-To: <584g42$gsf@news.tuwien.ac.at> On 12/04/96, Khanh P. Nguyen wrote: >In article <57ujsh$kl0@news.manassas.ibm.com> Koplien@vnet.IBM.com >writes: >> Sometimes ago I posted about a strange behavior concerning the cold >start. I suggest the driver >Hi, >I'm having the same problem. We have 2 PC: >1/ Pentium 166 with 64MB, Matrox Millenium >2/ PentiumPro 200 with 64MB, Matrox Millenium >The first one runs without any problem. >The second behaves strange. Sometimes after rebooting the graphic card >output a horizontal frequency of exactly two times the expected >horizontal frequency (thanks to my Eizo F764-T screen which >automatically shut down and warn me about that). Power off and reboot >again sometimes helps. If it doesn't help, then power off + wait for 2 >days + reboot will help :-). We have changed the graphic card still have >the same sympton. BTW, under dos+windows everything seems to be ok. We >conclude that the problem must come from the driver but the first one >has no problem although using the same driver. So >problem=driver+hardwareconfig? >Anyone has more experience? >Thanks a lot, >Khanh, This is strange but I had similar problems with a PPro 200 and a Matrox Millinium card. Sometimes after a reboot the monitor would be unable to synch. Turning the system off for a period of time (1/2 hour or so) and turning it on again and usually the problem would go away. I assumed it was a defective card and returned it to the manufacturer.... strange. - Chris --
From: Daniel Ashton <jdashton@raleigh.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Display questions Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 09:54:48 -0500 Organization: IBM Multimedia Message-ID: <32A6E238.1A8C@raleigh.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using a Cirrus Logic 5426, which worked great under NSFIP3.1. When I installed 4.0, however, it became obvious that the CirrusLogic driver was flawed. I called NeXT, and they admitted the flaw, but I have not seen an updated driver yet. Does anyone reading this group have any leads on getting 1024 support back to my system? Second question: I'm about to be issued a ThinkPad 760 EL. Has anyone tried to install OpenStep 4.0 on a machine like this? I know that the 760CD had a supported display. Does OS4.0 support the 760EL display? perhaps using generic VGA? Final question: I'm pondering a switch from my on-board VL-BUS Cirrus Logic 5426 to an ISA Matrox card. (Does Matrox make an ISA card?) How well does the Matrox card work with OpenStep? Replies to jdashton@raleigh.ibm.com, if you wish. Thanks, Daniel
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep 4.0 mach runs great on Cyrix 6x86 P166+ (mostly) Date: 5 Dec 96 10:47:33 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.96Dec5104733@slave.one.net> References: <581the$2h96@news.doit.wisc.edu> In-reply-to: jessica@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu's message of 3 Dec 1996 19:03:10 GMT In article <581the$2h96@news.doit.wisc.edu>, jessica@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu (Jessica Severin) writes: I've successfully upgraded my Dell Dimension P90 with a Tyan Tomcat III/512KB cache (S1563s) motherboard and a Cyrix 6x86 P166+GP cpu. The performance of the system is quite good. <...> I've got a dual boot machine and the Openstep Mach 4.0 partition boots and runs fine, <...> I ran several Benchmarks with the system <...> NXBench 2.0 Dhrystone 212,765 Mips 135 NXFactor 2.733 (yes!) <...> The same system with a Pentium 133 instead of the Cyrix gave Dhrystone 189,873 mips 120.5 NXFactor 1.77 Sorry about the massive snipping - I'm not responding to your explicit points :-). I recently bought a system, an Asus P/I-XP55T2P4 (ie, Intel HX chipset), Pentium 133, 512k PB cache, 64M 60ns EDO, and a 4M Matrox Millenium. For that, I get: NXBench2.2 OS4.0 NS3.3 Dhrystone 318,471 308,641 Vax MIPS 202 196 NXFactor 2.70 3.47 (both at 444/16) As you can see, I got significantly better results. Did NXBench2.2 change things _that_ much from NXBench2.0? That said, I'm waiting to see how well Cyrix M2 and AMD K6 CPUs do when they come out. I'm thinking that if they can give better than P200 performance for a P133 price, I might upgrade sometime next year, when my P133 is feeling weaker. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: mrbill@texas.net (Bill Bradford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep 4.0 mach runs great on Cyrix 6x86 P166+ (mostly) Date: 5 Dec 1996 18:15:50 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <5873gm$iei@news3.texas.net> References: <581the$2h96@news.doit.wisc.edu> Jessica Severin (jessica@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu) wrote: : Hello everyone : I've successfully upgraded my Dell Dimension P90 with a Tyan Tomcat III/512KB : cache (S1563s) motherboard and a Cyrix 6x86 P166+GP cpu. The performance of : the system is quite good. The only problem is that the following software : hangs the CPU: : The NextStep 3.3 operating system kernel : OmniWeb 2.x : I've got a dual boot machine and the Openstep Mach 4.0 partition boots and : runs fine, but the 3.3 partition doesn't boot. I'm positive it's the Cyrix : chip because I replaced the 6x86 with a Pentium 133 (everything else the : same) and both Nextsep3.3 and Omniweb 2.x ran fine. Hm, how could Openstep *Mach* run on an x86 platform? I'd like to know. bill -- bill bradford system admin, unix geek, super hero, BOFH mrbill@texas.net texas networking, inc. http://www.texas.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "And the temple of love grows old and strong; But the wind blows stronger, cold and long; And the temple of love will fall before this black wind calls my name to you no more." - Sisters of Mercy, "Temple Of Love"
From: Dean Reece <dean.reece@eng.sun.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Display questions Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 11:03:16 -0800 Organization: JavaSoft Message-ID: <32A71C74.59AC@eng.sun.com> References: <32A6E238.1A8C@raleigh.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Ashton wrote: > > Second question: I'm about to be issued a ThinkPad 760 EL. Has anyone > tried to install OpenStep 4.0 on a machine like this? I know that the > 760CD had a supported display. Does OS4.0 support the 760EL display? > perhaps using generic VGA? It should work fine with the VGA driver, but you will not be getting close to what that display has to offer. I'v only seen one system that the generic VGA driver didin't work for, and that was long ago. > Final question: I'm pondering a switch from my on-board VL-BUS Cirrus > Logic 5426 to an ISA Matrox card. (Does Matrox make an ISA card?) How > well does the Matrox card work with OpenStep? 1) I've never heard of a non-PCI Millennium, nor is there any mention of it on Matrox's web site (http://www.matrox.com) 2) You can't use ISA video cards under OPENSTEP/NEXTSTEP (except in VGA mode) because they can't map a linear framebuffer. You need an ISA-VL, EISA, or PCI video card to do this. (for the nitpickers, there are two exceptions both of which are obsolete). Cheers, - Dean
From: schatt@scf.usc.edu (Drew Schatt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: [Q]: What do I need to do to get my cube and slab to boot? Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 11:19:20 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Sender: schatt@comserv-e-03.usc.edu Message-ID: <schatt-ya023280000512961119200001@nnrp.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi everyone- I recently got a cube for $20 (no hd or ram) and a slab for around 200 (both mono and 25 mhz). However, I am having boot problems at startup, and I know that this isn't a hardware problem but solely configuration problem. Sadly, I don't have the install cd, so I can't just reinstall the system on these machines. They are both running 3.1, and both appear to hang in the boot process right after network_init loads. The last 2 lines on the screen are: >Starting RPC and network services: nmserver portmapadd bet default: gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx >Dec 5 xx xx cube netmsgserver[56]: network_init After that, the machine just hangs. No disk accesses, or anything. They both boot into single user fine, so anything that needs to (and can be) done from the command line I can do. I took a look at the hostconfig, and it seems fine to me, but these are the first NeXTs I've ever dealt with, so I may not be the best person to ask about that. If you have any ideas as to what I should do, please e-mail me, or if you know of any resources for the proper configuration (web pages, books, etc....) please tell me what they are. I would prefer e-mail, as I don't get a chance to read news as often as I would like. Thanks again for the time.... ---Drew Schatt schatt@scf.usc.edu
From: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Shutting off the NeXT Printer (Re: Next BW monitor: Can it be switched off?) Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 10:36:39 -0800 Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd. Message-ID: <32A71637.4A0@mpr.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: mewett@planeteer.com Subject: Shutting off the NeXT Printer (Re: Next BW monitor: Can it be switched off?) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 17:30:46 -0800 From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware References: 1 , 2 This is really now a software post, but anyway... To shut off the NeXT Laser Printer, you can use this: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/npoffd.gz gunzip it and move it to /usr/local/etc/npoffd and add this to /etc/rc.local # run daemon which will power off NeXTPrinter when not in use if [ -x /usr/local/etc/npoffd ]; then (sleep 5; /usr/local/etc/npoffd 900) & (echo -n ' npoffd') >/dev/console else (echo ; echo "ERROR: can't find npoffd!") >/dev/console fi you can change "900" to any # of seconds you wish.... It's quite handy. TjL ps -- you can also get it via email by sending me a BLANK email with the SUBJECT send-mime npoffd.gz or, if you can't get MIME mail, send-uuencoded npoffd.gz
From: Chang Song <song@ctc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sound card for MSS driver Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 14:51:29 -0500 Organization: Concurrent Technologies Corp. Message-ID: <32A727C1.41C6@ctc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I have been searching for a sound card for microsoft sound system driver. Nextanswer states that AudioTrix from MediaTrix will work since it has Crystal 4231 Code. Does that mean any sound card with C4231 wil work? I found that Turtle beach's Tropez and Aztech's WaveRider 32+ use C4231 codec. ANybody using any of these? Does anybody using other sound card? I don't like to buy a SoundBlaster card. -- Chang Song E-Mail: song@ctc.com Concurrent Technologies Corporation 1450 Scalp Avenue Phone: 814-269-6515 Johnstown, PA 15904 Fax: 814-269-2666 ----------------------------------------------------------------- "A distributed system is one in which I cannot get something done because a machine I've never heard of is down" --Leslie Lamport -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Date: 5 Dec 1996 20:10:33 GMT Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department Distribution: world Message-ID: <587a7p$22t6@uni.library.ucla.edu> References: <5849d3$79o@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <585shj$21si@uni.library.ucla.edu> <586n09$a9g@news3.texas.net> >Um, there's no way for something to tell if an object drawing >power from something is "digital" . . . . its all the same >AC power.... sounds like you got taken, if you paid extra >for this.. A stereo component may use digital technology, but >the power supply in it is analog as ever.... > >: All devices run nearly silently, hard disks >: run at higher pitch (meaning faster). I'm >: totally satisfied. > >Um, there's no way for a power outlet to make hard drives >run faster - they run at the RPM they were designed to run >at... if they ran faster, they wouldn't work. > >: I paid $219 in '92, I think they're $199 now. > >By the way it sounds, I wouldn't pay $10 for one. >You can get a good 600 watt APC UPS ... > >: Reseller is Audio Adviser - 800-942-0220. > >-- >bill bradford system admin, unix geek, super hero, BOFH >mrbill@texas.net texas networking, inc. http://www.texas.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Um, Let me help you take your fat foot out of your mouth. You seem to like being an expert, but first you ought to learn to read what was written. 1) Yes, there are two digital outlets on the Power Pack II. Yes, the know whether or not a digital or analog device is plugged into it. They were designed for DAT recorders such as the Tascam DA-30 which I have attached to it or DA converters. 2) The basic premise of a line conditioner is to filter electricity. If you didn't know, there is a motor which makes your disk spin and if the electricity is filtered, the motor spins more efficiently - meaning faster. Did I say it spun faster to a level beyond which it was designed. No. I said it spun faster. Period. It is probably spinning as fast as it was designed to spin. Your disk is probably not spinning up to its spec using unfiltered AC. You probably think your modem is transmitting at 28.8 bps - but your line speed is fluctuating somewhere below that. 3) Your ears are designed for something besides holding up your glasses. Something emitting a higher pitch is vibrating at a higher frequency, which means it is 'spinning faster.' I'm glad you don't work in my studio. 4) I said it was an alternative to UPSes, not a substitute. I also said I purchased mine before UPSes were generally available. 5) Audio Advisor while not the highest end audio component reseller in the U.S. is the largest. I would consider their least opinion more valuable than the crap you spew. 6) Power Pack Specs: Six spec-grade outlets 2 digital 4 analog Industrial grade power filters Industrial grade power dampers Super fast acting MOVs 15 amp circuit breaker UL rating: 1440 watts @ 15 amps Enough of this stupidity. Charles Dvorak
From: Dean Reece <dean.reece@eng.sun.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound card for MSS driver Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 12:40:23 -0800 Organization: JavaSoft Message-ID: <32A73337.E1E@eng.sun.com> References: <32A727C1.41C6@ctc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Most audio cards with an ESS chipset work well under NEXTSTEP (using the ESS driver, of course). I'm not sure of specific vendors or model numbers, but look for cards based on the ESS1688, 1788, or 1888. Cheers, -Dean Chang Song wrote: > > Hi. > I have been searching for a sound card for microsoft sound system > driver. > Nextanswer states that AudioTrix from MediaTrix will work since it has > Crystal 4231 Code. > Does that mean any sound card with C4231 wil work? > I found that Turtle beach's Tropez and Aztech's WaveRider 32+ use C4231 > codec. > ANybody using any of these? > > Does anybody using other sound card? > I don't like to buy a SoundBlaster card. > > -- > Chang Song E-Mail: song@ctc.com > Concurrent Technologies Corporation > 1450 Scalp Avenue Phone: 814-269-6515 > Johnstown, PA 15904 Fax: 814-269-2666 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > "A distributed system is one in which I cannot get something done > because a machine I've never heard of is down" --Leslie Lamport > -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: mrbill@texas.net (Bill Bradford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Date: 5 Dec 1996 21:41:54 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <587fj2$t99@news3.texas.net> References: <5849d3$79o@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <585shj$21si@uni.library.ucla.edu> <586n09$a9g@news3.texas.net> <587a7p$22t6@uni.library.ucla.edu> S. Port (scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu) wrote: : 1) Yes, there are two digital outlets on the Power Pack II. : Yes, the know whether or not a digital or analog device : is plugged into it. They were designed for DAT recorders : such as the Tascam DA-30 which I have attached to it or : DA converters. As I said before, there's *no way* for a power supply/filtering device to know if the current being drawn from it is going to a digital or analog device. Power supplies (even on the fanciest digital recording equipment) are analog. Period. : Did : I say it spun faster to a level beyond which it was : designed. No. I said it spun faster. Period. It is probably : spinning as fast as it was designed to spin. Your disk : is probably not spinning up to its spec using unfiltered : AC. Your claims that it "spins faster" are still just that - claims. : You probably think your modem is transmitting at 28.8 bps : - but your line speed is fluctuating somewhere below that. That's a well-known fact about 28.8 modems... I dont use analog modems anymore anyway. I've since moved on to ISDN. : 3) Your ears are designed for something besides holding up : your glasses. Something emitting a higher pitch is vibrating : at a higher frequency, which means it is 'spinning faster.' NOPE. Just because something is making a louder noise/different pitch doesent mean that it is spinning faster. If that were the case, the 400mb hard drive on my NeXTStation slab would be moving the system around the desk with centrifugal force. (it has grown loud enough to hear throughout the house). : I'm glad you don't work in my studio. I am too, if you're as gullible as it sounds. : 4) I said it was an alternative to UPSes, not a substitute. : I also said I purchased mine before UPSes were generally : available. Good for you. : 5) Audio Advisor while not the highest end audio component : reseller in the U.S. is the largest. I would consider their : least opinion more valuable than the crap you spew. Well if they're spouting crap like you are above, I sure as hell wont be buying any stereo equipment from them anytime soon. Sounds like they make money off of people by making up stats about their equipment. Kinda like the people who see "digital servo drive mechanism" on the front of their CD player and think "it will spin better and the CDs will sound better". Um, no. : 6) Power Pack Specs: : Six spec-grade outlets : 2 digital : 4 analog : Industrial grade power filters : Industrial grade power dampers : Super fast acting MOVs : 15 amp circuit breaker : UL rating: 1440 watts @ 15 amps : : Enough of this stupidity. Agreed. -- bill bradford system admin, unix geek, super hero, BOFH mrbill@texas.net texas networking, inc. http://www.texas.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "And the temple of love grows old and strong; But the wind blows stronger, cold and long; And the temple of love will fall before this black wind calls my name to you no more." - Sisters of Mercy, "Temple Of Love"
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ultra SCSI: compatible? Date: 5 Dec 1996 22:10:37 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <587h8t$3p3@news.digifix.com> References: <5822ob$i0b@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <5822ob$i0b@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> On 12/03/96, Christian Neuss wrote: >Hi evryone, > >since memory and disk space can be bought at reasonable prices, we >are considering upgrading our black and white Nextstep hardware. >An interesting candidate is the Quantum Fireball, the 2G version >can be had for around 300 USD here in Germany. I am aware that this >is not the fastest disk on this planets surface, but for black HW and >an older Adaptec 2940 it shouldn't make be much of a difference. :) Quantum (spit) NEVER AGAIN FOR ME! Last weekend, YET ANOTHER Quantum Empire drive went south on me. Same old story, it refuses to spin up. For those keeping score... in the last year I've lost - 3 Quantum Empire 1G SCSI drives, all less than a year old - 2 Quantum Empire 500Mb SCSI drives, all less than two years old all those drives died with the same STICTION type problem... - 1 Fujitsu 1Gb SCSI drive, DOA - since I'm in Canada and bought it from the US I'm SOL. - 1 HP DAT DRIVE (2 years old, bought from LaCie, a QUANTUM COMPANY) each time I've lost data, in some cases major amounts, especially with the DAT drive. I'm now working without any backup capability, and not sure what the hell to do about it. and of course 2 Canon Objectstations, one less than 1 year old at the time of death, but hey, Canon CCSI doesn't give a shit. They blame everything on ATO. Never again will a Canon product be purchased in this office or my house. > >Now my question: this disk can be bought in Ultra versions only, and >it has become quite difficult to by any non-Ultra or -Wide SCSI disks >these days. The manual claims that they are backwards compatible, but >is this really the case? Can I we a Ultra disk in a slab or cube? > I put a Seagate Ultra SCSI hard drive in my slab about a month ago to replace the jet engine drive that was in there... Its now actually a comfortable volume in my office again... >Many thanks in advance, Chris >-- >// Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." >// http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ >// fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 > -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Date: 5 Dec 1996 22:14:56 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <587hh0$3p4@news.digifix.com> References: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961202103456.5718H-100000@kira> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961202103456.5718H-100000@kira> On 12/02/96, Timothy Luoma wrote: > >Here's what I'm looking to do: > >1) prevent brief power fluxes from screwing up my machine, ie monitor, HD, > EZ135 drive, and modem (my printer is usually off, so I'm not too > worried about it) > >2) give nice, clean, even power > >3) allow me to do clean power downs when power fails completely (more than > a few minutes) > >Anyone with suggestions, please let me know. Especially helpful is >product #s and prices paid for them. > You can get good quality UPSs from APC or Opti. I've had poor success with TrippLite beasts. The Opti 600 should probably cover you off, although I wouldn't want to put a Laser Printer on it. They are about $300 Canadian, I think about $240 US. Be sure to cover all methods of incoming surges. Your goal is to make a perimeter around your system that spikes can't get through... Put a UPS on the stuff you have to keep running (monitor, HD, EZ) and put the other items on a GOOD quality powerbar with surge supression, and make sure you also do the Telephone/Modem cable too. I just ordered a new server, and made damn sure I put a UPS on the order. You can't argue with the insurance and ASSURANCE you get from it. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: otto@olcs.com (Otto Lind) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Date: 5 Dec 1996 23:27:35 GMT Organization: Softwire Corporation Message-ID: <587lp7$b8m@olcs.olcs.com> References: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961202103456.5718H-100000@kira> <582tst$1u0@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5849d3$79o@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <585shj$21si@uni.library.ucla.edu> <586n09$a9g@news3.texas.net> <587a7p$22t6@uni.library.ucla.edu> In article <587a7p$22t6@uni.library.ucla.edu>, scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) writes: > 1) Yes, there are two digital outlets on the Power Pack II. > Yes, the know whether or not a digital or analog device > is plugged into it. They were designed for DAT recorders > such as the Tascam DA-30 which I have attached to it or > DA converters. Exactly what is a "digital device". Does it mean that the device is using a switching power supply? Or does this "super power strip" somehow sneak through the power supply and power conditioning filters of the device and detect digital circuitry is being used? Damn, that must take some pretty sophisticated hardware. > 2) The basic premise of a line conditioner is to filter > electricity. If you didn't know, there is a motor which > makes your disk spin and if the electricity is filtered, > the motor spins more efficiently - meaning faster. Did > I say it spun faster to a level beyond which it was > designed. No. I said it spun faster. Period. It is probably > spinning as fast as it was designed to spin. Your disk > is probably not spinning up to its spec using unfiltered > AC. You probably think your modem is transmitting at 28.8 bps > - but your line speed is fluctuating somewhere below that. You are either: a) The most clueless person to post in this newgroup for a long long time (Do you really believe that hard drive motors are hooked up to AC power directly? Or that AC line noise would have _any_ effect after going through the motor's power supply?). b) A troller (if so, congratulations, you caught at least two people :-). > 4) I said it was an alternative to UPSes, not a substitute. A very poor alternative IMHO. I would second the recommendation of an APC unit. That is what I'm running, and it has proved its worth several times. Otto -- Otto Lind Softwire Corporation (North office) otto@olcs.com 12125 285th street, Lindstrom, MN 55045 skypoint!olcs!otto voice:(612)257-1259 fax:(612)257-0923
From: Craig Christophel <cchristo@ritchie.acomp.usf.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Mono -- Ram?? Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 19:36:00 -0800 Organization: University Of South Florida Message-ID: <32A794A0.55D8@ritchie.acomp.usf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am planningon upgrading my mono 68040 and I was wondering what type of ram would be needed for this system. the board has : 8 30 pin slots 1 72 pin slot also.. could anyone reccomend some scsi CDrom drives and or HD's htat work well with the station Thanks much. Craig Christophel <Newbie>
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Date: 5 Dec 96 17:56:38 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: world Message-ID: <SHESS.96Dec5175638@howard.one.net> References: <5849d3$79o@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <585shj$21si@uni.library.ucla.edu> <586n09$a9g@news3.texas.net> <587a7p$22t6@uni.library.ucla.edu> In-reply-to: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu's message of 5 Dec 1996 20:10:33 GMT In article <587a7p$22t6@uni.library.ucla.edu>, scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) writes: mrbill@texas.net wrote: >: I paid $219 in '92, I think they're $199 now. > >By the way it sounds, I wouldn't pay $10 for one. >You can get a good 600 watt APC UPS ... Um, Let me help you take your fat foot out of your mouth. You seem to like being an expert, but first you ought to learn to read what was written. 1) Yes, there are two digital outlets on the Power Pack II. Yes, the know whether or not a digital or analog device is plugged into it. They were designed for DAT recorders such as the Tascam DA-30 which I have attached to it or DA converters. Still, you're going to need to back this up, somewhat. Does the DAT recorder work when plugged into some other outlet? I've seen DAT recorders being used without special power equipment, so it's obviously not something intrinsic. The best I can imagine is that the digital outlets have extra pure sine wave output or somesuch. Or perhaps the _analog_ outlets are extra pure, since that power is probably more likely to feedback into the audio. Still, it's _extremely_ unlikely that the power unit can tell with any accuracy whether what's plugged into it is digital or analog. Everything I've ever seen which could be called "digital" didn't connect the digital components to the power line directly, they are connected through a variety of analog components like transformers and inverters. For the most part the same components you'll find in analog devices. 2) The basic premise of a line conditioner is to filter electricity. If you didn't know, there is a motor which makes your disk spin and if the electricity is filtered, the motor spins more efficiently - meaning faster. Did I say it spun faster to a level beyond which it was designed. No. I said it spun faster. Period. It is probably spinning as fast as it was designed to spin. Your disk is probably not spinning up to its spec using unfiltered AC. Uh huh. Why is it that the disk would change it's speed due to the filtering of the AC power? Last I was aware, computer power supplies provide 12v, 5v, and lately 3.3v _DC_. The purest perfect sine AC input isn't going to make much difference, unless the power supply can't maintain the output voltage. The most likely result if it _can't_ is not that your disk will run faster or slower - your disk won't run at all. You probably think your modem is transmitting at 28.8 bps - but your line speed is fluctuating somewhere below that. Ho, boy, that's a big one! Your modem is digital. It either loses a packet or not, but it certainly doesn't degrade in a continuous fashion! 3) Your ears are designed for something besides holding up your glasses. Something emitting a higher pitch is vibrating at a higher frequency, Yes, yes... which means it is 'spinning faster.' I'm glad you don't work in my studio. No, no. "vibrating at a higher frequency" does not equate to "spinning faster". Indeed, depending on the dynamics of your system, your drive may be _quieter_ spinning faster. Again, this won't be continuous, there will be decided nodalities as your frequencies reinforce and oppose each other. Just like how some cars get better gas mileage at 60MPH than 55MPH. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Yikes...the kidz hosemonkeyed my 3.2 boot!! Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 08:48:48 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961130084513.17453A-100000@kira> References: <57pmj5$275@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Minuet <minuet@indy.net> In-Reply-To: <57pmj5$275@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com > Got a small problem! My kids were playing around with my slab (running 3.2) > and apparently got into the rom monitor as it was booting up. Time to set a hardware password, no? > The boot command was set to "y" and a few other things were changed, and > after that the system would not boot. I have tried changing the boot > command to "b" and "bsd" but nothing seems to work, and it still halts > in the bootup process saying "default boot device not found". I have no > other drives than the internal, so it will not let me set it from the > preferences panel. If I type "bsd" manually from the prompt though, it > boots and everything is fine. *sigh* Any ideas? Hmm... Very strange. Have you gone through the preferences ("p" in the ROM monitor) and checked to make sure everything was OK? I might even go and take out the battery, allow the settings to reset themselves, and then manually reset the ROM preferences (note: after removing the battery the boot command will be "en" which you will want to change unless it is on a network 24/7) Then when you get it working, go get this : ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/misc/HardwarePassword.N.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/misc/HardwarePassword.README TjL
From: rdi@interlog.com (Rick Innis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer problems Date: 5 Dec 1996 21:48:06 -0500 Organization: InterLog Internet Services (416) 975-2655 info@interlog.com Message-ID: <5881h6$96s@gold.interlog.com> Peter Nitezki writes > 2. The rubber surface of the paper transport rollers seems to be dirty > and hardned. You could try to get some rubber revitalizer [...] And my question is, where in North America (preferably Canada, double-preferably Metro Toronto, triple preferably downtown T.O!) can I find such stuff? I spent a fruitless afternoon calling camera, audio and computer stores looking some - any leads? Thanks in advance, --Rick.
From: Jukka Tainio <jjt@oas.ratol.fi> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: Seagate ST12400N (single-ended SCSI of 1994) as a NS3.3 boot disk? Date: 4 Dec 1996 11:58:02 GMT Organization: Raahe Institute of Computer Engineering Message-ID: <583p0a$fdj@news.ratol.fi> References: <9612011651.AA00724@huelf.hamburg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> wrote: > I am having enormus trouble installing NEXTSTEP 3.3 for Intel on a > 3.5" - Seagate ST12400 - 2GB - single-ended SCSI disk. > I ended up investing the entire saturday by trying...... :-( > At first everything runs normal, the Toshiba XM-3401-CD-ROM is set > to id#5 and the Seagate is #3, so the NeXTinstaller picks the > Seagate as the startup device. After I chose the right > SCSI-controller out of the list (and it works with another disk were > I already use 3.3 with (1GB Maxtor)) everything is fine..... > So the installment is exited, leaving me frustrated for hours. > Any hint, anybody...... ??? Did you have dos on that disk before? Or any other operating system. I was not able to format an Seagate ST5660A before I used Linux fdisk to remove all partitions from it. fdisk /mbr at dos might help too... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jukka Tainio jjt@viper.oas.ratol.fi <-- NeXTMail ok! jjt@ftp.funet.fi http://www.funet.fi/~jjt tel.+358-40-5876929, work +358 82101419 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Erik Walter <ejw@netmanage.com> Subject: Re: [Q]: What do I need to do to get my cube and slab to boot? Message-ID: <c57cc$13208.157@nmb-news> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 96 19:33:33 PST To: Drew Schatt <schatt@scf.usc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, Dec 5, 1996,11:19 AM Drew Schatt wrote: : >Starting RPC and network services: nmserver portmapadd bet default: : gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx : >Dec 5 xx xx cube netmsgserver[56]: network_init I saw this recently from a problem with routed. For some reason it was looking for a router that no longer existed and then it just hung. Since you bought these machines used, they might be looking for a router. I also might check to see if it's trying to use NFS and looking for volumes/hosts that don't exist. At the very least, I might try turning off the network and see if it boots then. Erik
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any trouble using Matrox Millenium?? Date: 30 Nov 1996 19:14:57 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <57q13h$7n8@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> Has anyone had any trouble using the Matrox Millenium video card under NeXTSTEP?? I need to run it at resolutions up to 1280x1024x256 @ 60Hz. Does anyone know of *ANY* bugs with this card and NEXT's drivers?? Thanks, P.S. If your reply bounces, please send to gcasamen@eos.hitc.com. My access at school is about to be cut off since I am no longer a student. -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu (c) G. Casamento -- Permission to distribute on MS network denied!! "It is not enough that I should succeed. All others must fail!!" -- G. Kahn
From: Rainer Frohnhöfer Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Yikes...the kidz hosemonkeyed my 3.2 boot!! Date: 30 Nov 1996 19:15:56 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <57q15c$idm@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <57pmj5$275@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> <Pine.SUN.3.95.961130084513.17453A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > > > Got a small problem! My kids were playing around with my slab (running 3.2) > > and apparently got into the rom monitor as it was booting up. [snip] > > preferences panel. If I type "bsd" manually from the prompt though, it > > boots and everything is fine. *sigh* Any ideas? > > Hmm... Very strange. [snip] Try "sd" as boot command. The the 'b' will be added by the system. -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (finger cip@mathematik for public key ...)
From: tal@cs.caltech.edu (Tal Lancaster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: IBM 1.3G MO $400 Date: 6 Dec 1996 04:28:32 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Message-ID: <5887dg$dmj@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> Cc: tal For sale: Internal IBM SCSI-2 H/H 1.3G MO drive. It is1 year old. I have used it flawlessly under NeXTSTEP 3.3, DOS, and Windows. $400 ( plus shipping). The price includes one1.3G carriage. P.S. For those paying attention this is the same unit, I tried selling a few months ago for a lot more. Now it is closer the holidays and I need the cash. -- *********************************************************************** Tal Lancaster - talb5@pacbell.net (NeXTSTEP, MIME, and regular Email The RenderMan Repository -- http://pete.cs.caltech.edu/RMR/ ************************************************************************
From: rkirchne@mathcs.carleton.edu (Roger Kirchner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RAM for Cube? Date: 6 Dec 1996 04:24:21 GMT Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA Message-ID: <58875l$cqa@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> I tried four 16 x 8 - 60 RAM chips in my Cube and got a system failure, Exception #2 (0 x 8) at 0x1006cca. What should I have gotten? I have had twelve 1 x 9's and four 4 x 8's. I tried replacing four of the 1 x 9's. The new chips are a little taller and barely fit. They can't be in the first four positions. Thanks for any advice. Roger Kirchner
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q}:Modem Problems on OPENSTEP 4.0 Date: 30 Nov 1996 19:25:20 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <57q1n0$7n8@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> References: <01bbdcef$160b62c0$410ccfa9@shadowforge> Sila Yardee (syardee@mail.execpc.com) wrote: : Hi folks, [ modem woes deleted... ] I had this problem w/ a modem that came with my previous system. It was a WinModem. are you sure you don't have a winmodem?? If you do, NS will never see it. Given that it works under Linux and NT, I could be wrong. Later, -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu (c) G. Casamento -- Permission to distribute on MS network denied!! "It is not enough that I should succeed. All others must fail!!" -- G. Kahn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <mattj@invisix.com> Subject: Monitor switcho Message-ID: <32A7A4CB.5568@invisix.com> Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 22:44:59 -0600 Organization: Invisix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One quick question with one, small cross-post. I saw someone in c.s.n.h say that they took a monitor off their SGI Indy and put it on their NeXTstation and it worked. Does a NeXT 17" Fimi color monitor work on an Indy? Are they interchangable? Thanks! (please check for replies before posting) -- Are there Cray-based web servers? Forget Winblows NT. (http://www.invisix.com) Please send me an interesting site to view--I'm bored.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <mattj@invisix.com> Subject: Re: NeXT 17" to PC 15-pin VGA adapter. Pointers? Message-ID: <32A7A711.5DE6@invisix.com> Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 22:54:41 -0600 References: <32a3be30.4757622@snews2.zippo.com> <5825ue$24j@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Organization: Invisix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank M. Siegert wrote: > > In <32a3be30.4757622@snews2.zippo.com> Mike Sorensen wrote: > > I have a nice lookin 17" monitor here for a NeXT color workstation and > > have heard that I can get an adapter to hook it up to PC's. > > > > Can anyone refer me to a supplier? > > > > This task is hard than it seems... the NeXT monitors is fixed frequency - > only 1172 x 892 in 68 Hz and need the sync (h/v) mixed in the green signal. > > Better get a nice multisync and sell the NeXT screen to a NeXT, Sun or HP > user. > > -- > * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net > * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy I second the nice multisync option. I put by NEC XP21 on my turbo color station with a BNC-13W3 adapter and it run it fine. The seemingly XP21 says it's running in 1024x768, not the 1172x892 that the NeXT monitor do. I don't seem to have lost any screen room for sizing windows, so I suspect that it is 1172x892, but the XP21 can't tell you that it's that (probably a PC thing, as they don't normally do 1172x892)... The NEC XP21 is the swiss-army monitor. 5 BNC's and multisyncing up to 1600x1200 really hits the spot on just about any box you can throw at it (with an adapter, of course.) -- Are there Cray-based web servers? Forget Winblows NT. (http://www.invisix.com) Please send me an interesting site to view--I'm bored.
From: liuyi@ (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IBM Ultrastar ES 2.1GB HD Works on Black HW? Date: 6 Dec 1996 04:53:00 GMT Organization: CrystalBall Software, Dallas, TX. Message-ID: <5888rc$nfn@news.crystalball.com> Keywords: NeXT, Hard Drive Has anyone successfully used this drive on a NeXTstation/Cube? IBM Ultrastar ES 2.1GB Fast SCSI2 Or is it also handicapped by the "Synchronous Mode Only" problem with other newer IBM SCSI2 drives? I checked the IBM specs at www.storage.ibm.com, but couldn't find out much about whether it can be jumpered to use asynchronous mode. The reason I'm interested in this drive is that it has the best performance/price ratio of all the 5400rpm drives I've seen so far --- $340 at NECX (www.necx.com) and it comes with a 5 year warranty. If this drive doesn't work on NeXT hardware, could someone recommend one that works and is also similared priced? I'm planning to get a 1 to 2 GB drive for my NeXT machine for Xmas. Thanks, liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@telnet1.crystalball.com> Dallas, TX
From: mpd@gulf.net (Mark Pappas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Station SCSI Problem Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 15:57:00 -0500 Organization: Mark Pappas Development Message-ID: <mpd-ya023180003011961557000001@news.gulf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi All, This is a NeXTstation ADB 040 w/ Quantum 105 running NeXtStep 3.2. When I run Build Disk on my External HD to make it a boot drive I get this in the console. Can someone tell me what this means: rotation delay between contiguous blocks changes from 0ms to 4ms then a bunch of: sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 1 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 2 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 3 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 4 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 5 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 6 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 7 sd1: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x400, resid = 0x400, retry 8 Now if your going to say the Quantum is toast thats cool. But my next question is..... I have NeXTSTEP Release 3 on CDROM. If I make the CDROM id0 and try to boot it, no good it chokes. So where do I go from here. -- Thanks Mark Pappas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Pappas Development E-mail: mpd@gulf.net Consultant http://www.gulf.net/~mpd/ 3915 Lynn Ora Dr. Phone: (904) 476-3773 Pensacola, FL 32504 Specializing in Macintosh Databases & NMI's Microbrew
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer problems Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 21:47:15 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961205214554.22062A-100000@kira> References: <5881h6$96s@gold.interlog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Rick Innis <rdi@interlog.com> In-Reply-To: <5881h6$96s@gold.interlog.com> "Rudolf B. Blazek" <rudy@pegasus.stt.msu.edu> gave me this which I haven't yet got to put on my web page dealing with this: he said: "Rubber Cleaner Revitalizer" - PRB LINE. Made for Projector Recorder Belt, part No. RCR-21. Projector Recorder Belt: PRB Route 3 - Hwy 59 Whitewater WI 53190-0176 I have bought all the parts in a local store, but they told me that they also do mailorder: Fulton Industrial Electronics 5830 So. Pennsylvania Lansing, Michigan 48911 Phone (517) 394-5020 On 5 Dec 1996, Rick Innis wrote: > Date: 5 Dec 1996 21:48:06 -0500 > From: Rick Innis <rdi@interlog.com> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer problems > > Peter Nitezki writes > > 2. The rubber surface of the paper transport rollers seems to be dirty > > and hardned. You could try to get some rubber revitalizer [...] > > And my question is, where in North America (preferably Canada, > double-preferably Metro Toronto, triple preferably downtown T.O!) can I > find such stuff? I spent a fruitless afternoon calling camera, audio and > computer stores looking some - any leads? > > Thanks in advance, > > --Rick. > >
From: drmsmyth@moonstar.com (William F. Adams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstep on Thinkpad 365x? Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 03:50:25 GMT Message-ID: <329fae21.1705970@news.alterdial.uu.net> References: <slrn5a0sbk.6io.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> A while back, there was a very interesting post made about getting NS going on a TP 755CX--I've saved it, and shall send you a copy. The 365 may be a bit underpowered, and undersized in terms of display area--I'm contemplating installing NS to my 755C, but haven't been able to locate someone with a ThinkPad Dock who'll let me use it for the install. (I'm in Virginia if there's some kind soul out there who's inclined to assist with this...) At NS 3.1, you'll have to have a docking station and SCSI CD-ROM card/drive in order to do the install. NS 3.2 allows installation over a network, which I'd guess would be your case--if it also includes drivers for PCMCIA network cards. I believe it's only at 3.3 (or OS 4.0) which would allow installation via a PCMCIA SCSI CD-ROM. William Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: [Q]: What do I need to do to get my cube and slab to boot? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E1z50w.Hs8@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 04:12:31 GMT References: <schatt-ya023280000512961119200001@nnrp.usc.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <schatt-ya023280000512961119200001@nnrp.usc.edu>, Drew Schatt <schatt@scf.usc.edu> wrote: >Hi everyone- > I recently got a cube for $20 HOLY!!!!!! >Sadly, I don't have the install cd, so I can't just reinstall the system on >these machines. You can likely find a 3.3 Academic Bundle on c.s.n.marketplace for not a bad price, BTW. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help getting MO drive recognized by Workspace Date: 1 Dec 1996 09:26:33 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <57rj09$94s@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Summary: Help! Keywords: magneto-optical, Olympus SYS 230 I'm going nuts. I bought an Olympus SYS.230, which takes the same 230 MB disks as the Fujitsu DynaMO. I connected the drive and rebooted, and everything Just Worked. But after that first time, it's iffy. The problem is that most of the time the disk name shows up in the file browser, just like a *fixed* SCSI disk. So the generic SCSI disk icon doesn't show up in the Workspace shelf, and I can't eject the disk or initialize it. I can only eject through the disk utility, but the file browser still shows the disk. I also have been unsuccessful trying to umount the disk, since the system doesn't think that device is mounted: phoenix:1# umount /dev/rsd3a /dev/rsd3a not mounted phoenix:2# mount /dev/rsd3a mount: /dev/rsd3a not found If I don't boot up with disks in the drives, the drives aren't recognized at all by my TurboColor NeXT with NS 3.2. What *seems* to work is to boot with an *uninitialized* disk in the mo. drive. After the disk is initialized, or ejected and another disk inserted, the SCSI icon shows up on the shelf, and I can manipulate it just like a floppy disk. After a "successful" boot, the drive behaves until the next boot. Am I just using mount incorrectly? "disk /dev/rsd3a" correctly refers to the mo drive and lets me access it. But I can't get rid of the entry in the file browser. So I can't insert a new disk! I tried using the recently-posted disktab entry for the Fujitsu DynaMO. Doesn't make any difference that I can see. One curious thing (to me) : the disktab appears to specify 1024-byte sectors, but in the original example (and with my disks) the system thinks they are 512-byte sectors, even when I re-formatted them. Why does a previously-initialized and named disk seem to prevent Workspace from treating the mo. drive as a removable scsi disk when the disktab file specifies "removable_rw_scsi"? Thanks in advance for any and all help! Configuration details follow. David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu Computer: TurboColor with NS 3.2, with main drive at target 1, secondary SCSI drive at 2, CD-ROM at 3, and Olympus SYS.230 at 4. (By the way, anyone know why the system thinks the Olympus is called "OLYMPUS MOS330"? It looks as if Olympus erred in their label info for the drive, since the model is called 230). (BTW: the specs say the rotational speed is 4200, which is why I changed the 3600 to 4200 below). Disktab: mos330|MOS330|OLYMPUS MOS330|Olympus MOS330:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#80:nt#2:ns#1394:ss#1024:rm#4200:\ :fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a:rw=b:\ :pa#0:sa#223002:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#2:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:aa:ta=4.3BSD:
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any trouble using Matrox Millenium?? Date: 6 Dec 1996 08:40:16 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <588m5g$9oa@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <57ujsh$kl0@news.manassas.ibm.com> <584g42$gsf@news.tuwien.ac.at> <585drk$sg5@nntp1.best.com> cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) wrote: > On 12/04/96, Khanh P. Nguyen wrote: > >In article <57ujsh$kl0@news.manassas.ibm.com> Koplien@vnet.IBM.com > >writes: > >> Sometimes ago I posted about a strange behavior concerning the cold > >start. I suggest the driver > >Hi, > >The second behaves strange. Sometimes after rebooting the graphic card > >output a horizontal frequency of exactly two times the expected [...] > This is strange but I had similar problems with a PPro 200 and a > Matrox Millinium card. Sometimes after a reboot the monitor would be > unable to synch. Turning I have the very same problem with an on-board Matrox Millenium (Storm) chipset in a Pentium 133 digital Celebris GL system. Shortly after booting NEXTSTEP, the horizontal frequency seems to shift wildly, and sometimes the monitor loses sync. After approximately 20 seconds, everything stabilizes and the screen will look fine until the next reboot. It has nothing to do with "cold" hardware: When you do a warm-start, you'll see the same effect again. I observed the same behaviour with an OS/2 driver for the Millenium on the same system, but the Win 95 and NT drivers never had any problem. Another Matrox Millenium I tested, didn't have any problems whatsoever. So it seems to be a certain combination of hardware and software to make this effect happen. Strange... Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: root@bazar.unice.fr (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Toshiba Portable Installation ? Date: 6 Dec 1996 11:53:44 GMT Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis Message-ID: <5891g8$6h5@malibu.unice.fr> Hi, is someone know if there are problems to install OpenStep 4.1 for mach on a Toshiba Port g 650CT or 650CDT. Thanks ----- Marc Monticelli Institut Non Lineaire de Nice - CNRS/UNSA Sophia-Antipolis France
From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: IBM Ultrastar ES 2.1GB HD Works on Black HW? Date: 6 Dec 1996 12:29:33 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <5893jd$sks@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <5888rc$nfn@news.crystalball.com> In <5888rc$nfn@news.crystalball.com> Yi Liu wrote: > Has anyone successfully used this drive on a NeXTstation/Cube? > > IBM Ultrastar ES 2.1GB Fast SCSI2 > > Or is it also handicapped by the "Synchronous Mode Only" problem > with other newer IBM SCSI2 drives? I bought one a month ago and installed it internally without changing any jumpers and without even being aware of the potential synch mode problem. This is on a Nextstation Turbo running NS 3.2. Only glitch was that 3.2 does not format this size drive without some initial minor hacking. See NA #1733 for details, and email me if you need the distab. This is supposedly not a problem with NS 3.3 or OS 4.x. This drive was highest rated in its class (5400 rpm 2 gig drives) in a Computer Shopper article. Works great and is fairly quiet. Tim --- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: Terry Gliedt <tpg@fv.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next BW monitor: Can it be switched off? Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 08:30:02 -0500 Organization: First Virtual Holdings Message-ID: <32A81FDA.1B3899AD@fv.com> References: <329EEB2F.4955@austria.ds.philips.com> <E1uK5w.3px@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Evans wrote: > > In article <329EEB2F.4955@austria.ds.philips.com>, > Stefan Holzinger <sholzing@austria.ds.philips.com> wrote: > > > >Is it as simple as installing a switch turning off +12V and > >-12V for the CRT PCB or would this turn off the communication > >board, too - confusing the system? > >Is the power supply capable damping the switch on/off spikes > >or will it damage my system? > > > > A while ago it was decided that there's no reliable way to turn off the > monitor. The following was posted by me in June 1996. Yes, it *is* possible to run your Black hardware without a monitor. The trick is just to get the NeXT to power on, and boot correctly. This is a rewrite of an older FAQ item attributed to "The Onyx Kitten" <onyxcat@pictor.unm.edu> who no longer is at this mail address. The only reason for redoing this is to make clearer what exactly needs doing and report my personal experiences in this process. My thanks to Justin Sowers <jsowers@lehman.com> for his insight and assistance. HARDWARE SETUP The task is to build a DB-19 male plug to replace the DB-19 cable coming from your Black monitor. You can also use the more common DB-25 male plug as a replacement, but you will need to crimp (or remove) the pins on the right-hand side of the DB-25 so they are not in the way. An easily obtainable parts list is as follows: Radio Shack SKU# Qty. Description Price (as of 03/96) ------------------------------------------------------------------ 275-1556 1 2 pack Push-button switches $1.99 271-1317 1 5 pack 470 Ohm, .25 Watt resistors 0.49 276-1549 1 Grey housing for DB-25 connector 1.19 276-1429 1 25 pin male D-sub connector 1.99 Total: $5.66 + tax If you are a stickler for exact parts then you can order DB-19 connectors from: Gateway Electronics of St. Louis, San Diego, and Denver 1-800-669-5810 314-427-6116 VOX 314-427-3147 FAX http://www.gatewayelex.com for $1.50/ea. (as of 3/96). Minimum order for mailing: $10. Many thanks to Carl Lowenstein <cdl@helium.ucsd.edu> for the pointer to this one. NeXT MegaPixel DB-19 female inside DB-25 male (Connector screwmounts shown for positioning) ________________________________________________ \ _ ................................. / _ \(_) : 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 :/ (_) \ : 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 :/ \ ............................./ ---------------------------------------- DB-19 Pinout: 1= +12 V 7= NC 2= -12 V 8= VSYNC 3= MON CLK 9= HSYNC 4= MON DATA OUT 10= VIDEO 5= MON DATA IN 11= +12V 6= MON PWR SWITCH 12= -12V 13-19= GND THE DONGLE Build the following simple circuit with a momentary push button soldered to the 470 ohm resistor. This assembly should then be wired across pins 6 and 19 of the DB-25 shell. If you have an older cube (030 motherboard) then you will need to be sure that the box draws more power than just for the motherboard in order for the machine to stay on. This can happen in ONE of two ways- 1) You have a disk drive, or other power-drawing internal peripheral connected and in use (not that uncommon), -or- 2) You connect a POWER resistor (20 Ohm, at least 20 Watt) across pins 12 and 13 (as labeled for the DB-19 diagram). I do not recommend the power resitor approach, as the resistor gets _very_ hot and remains an active circuit for the time the machine is on. NeXTStation and 040 cube owners do not have to worry about the idiosyncrasies of the older NeXT power supplies. Here's the circuit: \ Momentary push __ \__ | | | | 470 Ohm $ | | | | | v v To DB-25 pins: 6 19 The soldering involved (resistor to switch terminal & connector pin, and wire to switch terminal & connector pin) takes maybe 10 minutes and is not very technical as the pins are individual so you can attach them to your assembly before you put them into the plastic framework the holds them together as a DB-25 (if you are using the RadioShack parts list above). The power resistor mentioned in the FAQ turns out to be unnecessary if you have anything else in the cube that draws power (a disk, etc.). All of this fits nicely into a plastic DB-25 housing with the pushbutton sticking out where the cable would normally exit. NeXT Cube owners will need to shave down the left (as drawn in illustration) side of the housing inorder to get the "dongle" to fit (the monitor port is at the very bottom of the motherboard and doesn't afford much clearance past the securing screwmount). SOFTWARE SETUP You'll need to be sure your NeXT ROM Monitor settings are correct and that your O/S is ready to run without a monitor. To start, go into the NeXT ROM Monitor (press Command-Command-~) and set the current configuration settings (from "p" in the boot monitor) like this: boot command: whatever DRAM tests: yes perform power-on system test: yes sound out tests: no SCSI tests: no loop until keypress: no verbose test mode: no boot extended diagnostics: no serial port A is alternate console: yes <- recommentation allow any ROM command even if password protected: whatever allow boot from any device even if password protected: whatever allow optical drive #0 eject even if password protected: whatever A few people report they needed to do nothing more on a Cube (level of OS unknown). In my experience on a NeXTstation (NS 3.2), it was necessary to make these changes in /etc/ttys: console "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" NeXT on secure #console /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow NeXT on secure window=/usr/lib/NextStep/WindowServer onoption="/usr/etc/getty std.9600" ttya "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown on secure ttyb "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown on secure A WORD TO THE WISE I would recommend that before you do anything, you make sure you get serial port A working as an alternate console. You can do this with a simple null-modem serial cable connection to a DOS machine running kermit (or other simple-minded terminal emulator). If your black box gets a kernel panic (like mine) and you have disabled the console in /etc/ttys, you might be left in a state where you must re-install to get your machine back up. It seems prudent to always have a serial console solution in case something serious happens and you need to be able to see what is going on. Don't forget that you should remove any printer that is configured for serial port A if you are also using serial port A as an alternate console or serial tty. BOOTING WITHOUT A MONITOR Once the DB plug is built, the ROM Monitor settings are correct, your serial A port console works, and /etc/ttys is correct, then simply power down the NeXT, remove the DB-19 monitor cable, attach your new DB plug and press the momentary switch/button. The box should power on and go through its normal boot sequence. You'll see ROM Monitor messages on the console on serial port A (you are using one, aren't you?). CAVEAT EMPTOR I've tried to be very careful about these instructions, but maybe I missed something, or maybe your situation is somehow different from mine. I might be able to say something that will be helpful, but maybe not. All in all, you are on your own, so be careful. In any case I am not responsible for what you do to your own hardware. -- =================================================================== Terry Gliedt tpg@fv.com MIME OK First Virtual Holdings http://www.fv.com/ http://www.hps.com/~tpg/
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ultra SCSI: compatible? Date: 6 Dec 1996 13:37:14 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5897ia$qgk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5822ob$i0b@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <587h8t$3p3@news.digifix.com> Scott Anguish (sanguish@digifix.com) wrote: > Last weekend, YET ANOTHER Quantum Empire drive went south on me. > Same old story, it refuses to spin up. Ack! I was about to reply that 7200 rpm drives get very hot, which reduces their lifespan, and that in general, they should be run in an external enclosure rather then inside a slab. Some dealers even advise not to run them without an *additional* mini fan. That's why I tried to get one of the Fireball drives - they run at 5400, don't get too hot, and I know several people who use them, and have not experienced problems yet. However, I just looked up the Empire's specs, just to find out that the run at 5400 rpm, too. Do they get hot? Maybe they should be run in an external case anyway. > I put a Seagate Ultra SCSI hard drive in my slab about a month ago > to replace the jet engine drive that was in there... Thanks for the info! So at least it looks as if Ultra drives can be used without problems. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice on removable HD needed Date: 6 Dec 1996 13:43:13 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5897th$qgk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <583sks$en5$1@hock.apana.org.au> David Green (david@legion.apana.org.au) wrote: > After a nasty experience with a disk crash and then some faulty backup > tapes, I am considering getting a removable HD a la Syquest/Zip/Jaz. > Could someone with real-life experience of these drives please give me > some background on reliability, ease-of-installation, etc. Fujitsu 230 MB Mod drives (a 640 version exists). *Very* reliable. Plug and play: no drivers, not even a disktab entry necessary. Inexpensive media. A bit slow on writes though, but reads are fast. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: "Brad Skrbec" <skrbec@wwa.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 21" Monitor cable Date: 1 Dec 1996 21:01:55 GMT Organization: WorldWide Access (tm) - Chicagoland Internet Services (http://www.wwa.com) Message-ID: <01bbdfcb$1527b6e0$367098cf@darby.wwa.com> I have a 21" (Sony) Monitor for my trusty old black NeXTstation turbo, and I'd like to put the monitor on my PC. Unfortunately, the cable is a little unusual, with 3 "coax" type connectors inside of the monitor side connector of the cable.. Anyone know if and how this can be done? Please email me at skrbec@wwa.com, as I don't always catch the news as it goes by... Thanks in advance, Brad
From: Matija Exel <exel@lag.ensieg.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Iomega Zip backup? Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 17:02:11 -0800 Organization: E.N.S.I.E.G./Service Informatique et L.A.G. Message-ID: <32A8C213.6DE5@lag.ensieg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello, I have an Intel NextStep 3.3 station (with the Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI driver version 3.32). I'd like to know if one can use the Iomega Zip SCSI drive for backups? I checked with the Iomega web site which says they don't provide Unix SCSI drivers; it is also not clear whether the Zip disks can be formatted. Any hints? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Matija Exel, E.N.S.I.E.G., Service Informatique et L.A.G., Tel : 76 82 71 12 Fax: 76 82 63 88 e-mail : exel@lag.ensieg.fr (NO NextMail please) -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cube w/ 2*040boards & Dimensionsboard & some internet acces questions Date: 6 Dec 1996 15:51:29 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <589fe1$mc@news1.voicenet.com> References: <rr-0412961911590001@ztm04-04.dial.xs4all.nl> rr (rr@xs4all.nl) wrote: : Hi there, : I've just purchased a NeXTCube. It came with 2 68040 boards and a NeXT : Dimensionsboard and some more stuff like a modem, cd-rom aso. : Unfortunately, no manuals...but I'm managing, barely. : First question:from the faq I learned that it is possible to have 2 boards : inside the Cube. In this particular case it was a 68030 board and a 68040. : I was wondering if anybody has tried 2 040's ( and the Dimensions- board : in there too) and how they did it, what their experience is aso. Yes, Dave is right. You have to pull out the NBIC from the other 040. (030's don't have an NBIC). But be aware: it is not SMP. It is just having another CPU in the same case. You will have to setup remote booting, etc. : Second Question: ofcourse I want to be able to use NeXTMail, Omniweb and : so on. However I'm left clueless. It seems that TCP/IP is there on the : machine ( it says so in some online manual ) but no PPP. How do I : configure TCP/IP ? (More importantly, where to find it on my machine). : Unfortunately, I'm running Nextstep 2.1.... I do have 3.0 on cd-rom tho, : but I need to buy some cables first. I'm planning on getting the latest : version. : I have some UNIX knowledge. I would already be quite happy if I could just : read email on my Cube. But how do I dial in at my internet acces provider : ? Definately upgrade the OS. 3.x will feel MUCH snappier than 2.x on your dimension. If you don;t need the mono monitor, get a sound box and just run color...it's even faster. ppp does not come with the OS. Check out next-ftp.peak.org or www.thoughport.com for ppp. If you have a floppy on your NeXT, you'll be able to read floppies from either DOS or MAc machines. : Question #3: I've downloaded with my Mac some files I thought might be : usefull on the Cube. Suffixes like tar.gz and stuff. My mac downloads them : just fine but after quiting my ftp program the files just disappear. Can I : download these files ( like PPP for NeXT), save them on floppy , then take : it to the Cube and load them in there, decompress and so on. Anybody know : a convenient way of doing this. MAybe I should jus wait till I get the : internet acces on my cube and then download, but then that was question : nr.2.... You can save the files on floppy, and then bring then to the NexT, you will then have to do a gzip -d on the files (kind of like pkzip), and then untarr them. : 4. Anybody out there in the netherlands who has some books on objective-c ? : Questions, questions. The NeXT is beatifull, but without manual it's ...... : Hope somebody has some spare time left out there while surfing and can : help me get started, Check out maybe Borders. My local borders store has quite a few book on NeXTstep. -Darren : r-r-r
From: YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound card for MSS driver Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 01:49:15 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32A84E8A.36DD@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <32A727C1.41C6@ctc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out following bypast News. YoungHoon Kil, >From South Korea. ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP News written by Korean) Fri, 26 Apr 1996 14:17:15 comp.sys.next.announce PRESS RELEASE: Audio Driver for ENSONIQ Soundscape brianw@sounds.wa.com Brian Willoughby at Next Announcements For more information: EMAIL: SS_NSI@Sounds.wa.com ============================ NEXTSTEP Audio Driver released for ENSONIQ Soundscape multimedia sound cards BELLEVUE, WA- April 25 - Sound Consulting is shipping Release 3.30 of the EnsoniqSoundscape Audio Driver for NEXTSTEP. Current support includes all of the shipping ENSONIQ sound cards plus several third-party compatible sound cards which are based on the ENSONIQ chip set. There is currently no bundle of the hardware together with the driver. However, the combined price from separate sources is still quite affordable and more than competitive. BACKGROUND The combination of the EnsoniqSoundscape Driver with any of the supported sound cards is currently the only solution available for NEXTSTEP providing support for both Audio and MIDI features on one Intel-compatible bus adaptor board. The EnsoniqSoundscape Driver is compatible with the currently shipping MusicKit MidiDriver, enabling Intel machines running NEXTSTEP to allocate a single ISA or EISA slot to the combined functions of Audio and MIDI. According to the archives of the NeXTmusic mailing list: "Sources at NeXT say the most reliable sound card for NEXTSTEP-Intel is the Microsoft card. Microsoft [...] have stopped production, [...]" The ENSONIQ Soundscape hardware is based on the same quality CODEC chip as the Microsoft Windows Sound System, and is therefore the only shipping option available to NEXTSTEP users which meets or exceeds the same quality and reliability standards. Considering that the Microsoft product did not include MIDI support and has since been discontinued, the ENSONIQ Soundscape should be the multimedia sound card of choice for NEXTSTEP now that a Driver is available. ABOUT THE DRIVER The currently shipping version of the EnsoniqSoundscape driver is designed to work with both the jumpered I/O hardware as well as the newer software-configurable Plug-and-Play versions. Detection and support is provided for the Soundscape line plus many third-party compatibles, such as the NEC Harmony sound card. Installation and configuration are made simple by a full-featured custom interface for the Configure application, with driver-specific online help. The driver has hooks to support a mixer application for managing the hardware's on-board ten channel stereo mixer. The mixer application is still in its beta phase of development and is not currently shipping. EnsoniqSoundscape requires NEXTSTEP Release 3.3 or higher on Intel-based computers (486 or Pentium). WHERE TO OBTAIN THE DRIVER For additional information, please first visit http://nwlink.com/cyberartists/br ianw/ss_nsi.html For pricing and ordering information, please contact "Soundscape under NEXTSTEP for Intel" <SS_NSI@Sounds.wa.com> ABOUT THE HARDWARE More information on the Soundscape line of multimedia sound cards, featuring 16-bit stereo I/O and on-board General MIDI Synthesis, can be obtained from ENSONIQ Corporation at http://www.ensoniq.com/ WHERE TO OBTAIN THE HARDWARE The following cards are available directly from ENSONIQ via http://www.ensoniq.com/mmd/fax/direct.htm * ENSONIQ Soundscape * ENSONIQ Soundscape Elite OTHER SUPPORTED HARDWARE The first few of the following cards are manufactured by ENSONIQ as OEM for Gateway, and may be found pre-installed on newer Gateway multimedia computers * Soundscape 2, 2000, SS2000 * Soundscape (OPUS Based) * Soundscape Plug-and-Play (Revision 0, Revision 1, et al) * SoundscapeOFFICE Plug-and-Play The remainder of the cards are not available from ENSONIQ, but are instead manufactured by third-party hardware vendors and are found on the retail market. * Reveal SC-600 * Spea Media FX 16 * NEC Harmony Plug-and-Play ================ Sound Consulting has been providing quality software to the NEXTSTEP community for over four years, and is also the developer of the Windows NT Driver for the Soundscape, currently shipping via Gateway and ENSONIQ. Some of the NEXTSTEP programs, which cover a wide variety of applications, include sdformat, DoomView.app, MPEG_Play.app, Calibration.app, News2mbox.app, eViewer.app and check_nibs. ENSONIQ Corporation of Malvern, Pennsylvania, founded in 1982, designs, manufactures, and markets products including synthesizers, samplers, effects processors, mixers, sound cards, and chips.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT Mono -- Ram?? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E1zzsJ.o33@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 15:17:07 GMT References: <32A794A0.55D8@ritchie.acomp.usf.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <32A794A0.55D8@ritchie.acomp.usf.edu>, Craig Christophel <cchristo@ritchie.acomp.usf.edu> wrote: >I am planningon upgrading my mono 68040 and I was wondering what type of >ram would be needed for this system. > > >the board has : > 8 30 pin slots You stick 1MB or 4MB SIMMs in there. 100ns or faster is required. It will be clocked at 100ns no matter what you stick in. > 1 72 pin slot > That's for the DSP RAM expansion board. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Arman A Anwar <aanwar@osf1.gmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEWBE needs advise on Modems & Monitors & HDs Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 20:52:48 -0500 Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.961205204903.28517S-100000@mason2.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings, I'm trying to but some Black Hardware. I have no experience with any of Next's Products. Supposing I buy a Next Color Turbo .. Does the Slab ( I think thats what the box is called ): 1. have serial ports in the Pc sense of things, and if so can I conect a PC type modem to it ( One that obeys the AT command set ), 2. Can I connect any Multiscan monitor to it say a Sony SFII or do I need to get a NeXT capabile Monitor, 3. Do standard HDs ( SCSII ) work with next equipment ..? TIA, Arman. -+-+ A r m a n .. A l i .. A n w a r +-+- +-+- -+-+ Center for Information Systems Integration and Evolution { aanwar@gmu.edu, http://isse.gmu.edu/~aaanwar, (703) 993-1632 } +-+- -+-+ -+-+ Know of an opening for a Patent Office Clerk? I'm looking for one +-+-
From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cube w/ 2*040boards & Dimensionsboard & some internet acces questions Date: 6 Dec 1996 12:27:56 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <589ojc$3e9@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> References: <rr-0412961911590001@ztm04-04.dial.xs4all.nl> <589fe1$mc@news1.voicenet.com> Ident-User: liuyi In article <589fe1$mc@news1.voicenet.com>, Darren Wright <dwright1@voicenet.com> wrote: >rr (rr@xs4all.nl) wrote: [... lots of good stuff deleted ...] >: 4. Anybody out there in the netherlands who has some books on objective-c ? >: Questions, questions. The NeXT is beatifull, but without manual it's ...... >: Hope somebody has some spare time left out there while surfing and can >: help me get started, > >Check out maybe Borders. My local borders store has quite a few book on >NeXTstep. ^^^^^^^ Wow! Is "Borders" in the Netherland too? Are there any Borders/Barnes Nobles type of chains in Europe? I'm going to Italy next year so I need to be close to a bookstore. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@anet-dfw.com> | <liuyi@usa.net> Dallas, TX
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 12:57:23 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Eme5u3K00UhW01vVN9@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961202103456.5718H-100000@kira> <587hh0$3p4@news.digifix.com> In-Reply-To: <587hh0$3p4@news.digifix.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 5-Dec-96 Re: looking for suggestions.. by Scott Anguish@digifix.co > The Opti 600 should probably cover you off, although I wouldn't want > to put a Laser Printer on it. More specificly, you should never put a laser printer on a UPS unless the UPS specificly says that it was designed to handle that load. Laser printers, even when not actively printing, draw a large amount of current every so often to keep the transfer roller hot. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 13:23:51 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <gme6GrC00UhWI1vVsC@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5849d3$79o@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <585shj$21si@uni.library.ucla.edu> <586n09$a9g@news3.texas.net> <587a7p$22t6@uni.library.ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: <587a7p$22t6@uni.library.ucla.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 5-Dec-96 Re: looking for suggestions.. by S. Port@sonia.math.ucla. > 1) Yes, there are two digital outlets on the Power Pack II. > Yes, the know whether or not a digital or analog device > is plugged into it. They were designed for DAT recorders > such as the Tascam DA-30 which I have attached to it or > DA converters. How does it know? I'd want a technical explanation for that claim, not a repetition of the claim itself. > 2) The basic premise of a line conditioner is to filter > electricity. Amoung other things, yes. > If you didn't know, there is a motor which makes your disk spin and if > the electricity is filtered, the motor spins more efficiently - meaning > faster. That's completely wrong. The motor inside a disk drive does not, repeat does not, spin faster if the electricity is filtered. The power supply inside the drive generates rather close to a stable, constant output voltage regardless of whether the electricity was filtered or not, and the motor used is specificly designed to spin at a constant speed even if minor voltage fluctuations are present. > Did I say it spun faster to a level beyond which it was > designed. No. I said it spun faster. Period. And what you've said is wrong. Period. > It is probably spinning as fast as it was designed to spin. Your disk > is probably not spinning up to its spec using unfiltered AC. That is complete nonsense. I'd invite you to provide references to some kind of evidence to back up such a ludicrous claim... > You probably think your modem is transmitting at 28.8 bps > - but your line speed is fluctuating somewhere below that. Because of telephone line noise, modems pretty much always have a lower actual throughput than they theoretically should have. What does that have to do with the speed that a hard drive spins at? [ ... ] > 6) Power Pack Specs: > Six spec-grade outlets > 2 digital > 4 analog > Industrial grade power filters > Industrial grade power dampers > Super fast acting MOVs > 15 amp circuit breaker > UL rating: 1440 watts @ 15 amps This tells me nothing useful. What's the power handling capacity in Joules for surges? What's the let-through voltage during a surge? What's the claiming time? What's the attenuation of the RF filter? > Enough of this stupidity. Wonderful. Does this mean that you are going to provide some evidence to back up your claims and a technical description of the Power Wedge including the "recognizing digital versus analog components" feature, or does this mean that you're going to shut up and go away? -Chuck PS: Is it just me, or had Usenet been flooded recently with clueless people who not only don't have any idea of what they are talking about, but who get arrogant and refuse to listen when someone points out obvious flaws in their claims? Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: bnd00796@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dhrystones "All Wet?" Date: 6 Dec 1996 18:50:40 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961206185001.NAA25153@ladder01.news.aol.com> Hi, I have a product spec sheet provide from Decision One that covers the various aspects of the NeXT Station Mono. It says for the performance of the 25 Mhz model, the Dhrystone MIPS is 18.6. When I run a "Benchmark" program that is found most of the ftp sites (it is from NeXT Magazine or something like that) it says my performance is 16.55... Is this program to old to notice the 040 processor or is my cpu actually just a little slow??? Thanks! Bill
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Interesting BIOS power management interaction Date: 6 Dec 96 12:59:25 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: comp Message-ID: <SHESS.96Dec6125925@slave.one.net> I just thought I'd share something annoying which I recently fixed. I'm running NS3.3 on an Asus P/I-XP55T2P4. Wonderful board. Since my ViewSonic 17PS and Matrox Millenium both grok DPMS, I wanted to get things set up so that the monitor would power down after an hour or so of idle time. The first problem is that you have to disable almost all of the PM events in the BIOS (Award, BTW). I found that otherwise the darn thing would never go into power saving mode. Worse, I was testing it on "Max saving" (doze 1 min, standby 1 min, shutdown 1 min), and it usually, worked, but if I set it longer, it didn't. I _suspect_ that NeXTSTEP periodically goes out and sends a packet on the network or something of the sort that causes an interrupt and it doesn't shut down. In any case, who wants serial port activity keeping the monitor on? The more interesting dillema was that when it was set to go to shutdown mode after 1 hour, I could log in over the net, but after a couple commands the session would hang. If I moved the mouse to bring it out of shutdown mode, everything went through. As a test, I had a loop run "date" every five minutes one night, and indeed, it hung not long after it would have shut down, and didn't start up again until after I moved the mouse in the morning. Linux was worse. When it went to shutdown, Linux stopped responding entirely. The solution was to rejigger things so that it's set to doze after 1 hour, with standby and shutdown disabled, and the monitor is set to "all modes->off". Now, it shuts down the monitor, but NeXTSTEP and Linux don't realize they are off, so everything continues working at that level. The only thing left that I'd like to have would be the ability to send the monitor to standby or suspend mode instead of shutdown mode. In those modes, it draws <15W (versus like 120W when on), which isn't much worse than <8W in shutdown mode, and those modes come back on more quickly. But the BIOS doesn't seem to have any options besides "off". Sigh. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: drinke@r56h108.res.gatech.edu (Dave Rinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: RAM for Cube? Date: 6 Dec 1996 18:52:23 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <589q17$g0a@smash.gatech.edu> References: <58875l$cqa@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Roger Kirchner (rkirchne@mathcs.carleton.edu) wrote: : I tried four 16 x 8 - 60 RAM chips in my Cube and got a system failure, : Exception #2 (0 x 8) at 0x1006cca. : What should I have gotten? I have had twelve 1 x 9's and four 4 x 8's. : I tried replacing four of the 1 x 9's. : The new chips are a little taller and barely fit. They can't be : in the first four positions. That may be unfourtunate. I seem to remember that the 'better' (faster) chips have to be in the first slots. I have 8 70ns (4 meg) and 8 100 ns (1 meg) SIMMS and the 70's *have* to go in slots 0-7 or it gives me an exception. -- Dave Rinker Georgia Institute of Technology - Computer Science
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ultra SCSI: compatible? Date: 6 Dec 96 12:36:11 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.96Dec6123611@slave.one.net> References: <5822ob$i0b@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <587h8t$3p3@news.digifix.com> <5897ia$qgk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> In-reply-to: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam's message of 6 Dec 1996 13:37:14 GMT Scott Anguish (sanguish@digifix.com) wrote: >I put a Seagate Ultra SCSI hard drive in my slab about a month ago >to replace the jet engine drive that was in there... What model? I currently have a DEC DSP 3105S in my slab, it's 1G, half height, and loud like a jackhammer drilling into your brain ... well, ok, it's not _that_ loud, but it's a constant annoyance. I'm considering swapping it with a Seagate ST31230N (Hawk 2LP) in my PC. That drive's mainly used for experimenting with alternate operating systems, so the speed loss won't bother me ... and the PC is further from my head, so the noise will be less of a problem. Another question is whether that ST31230N can be low-level formatted to 1024 byte sectors. Not that I _really_ need the extra couple meg that would gain me from less sector overhead, and the slight speed increase (all of which I noted on an old ST1480 formatted to 1024 from 512) ... but since I plan to drop the drive into the slab and leave it there forever, I might as well optimize it somewhat, if possible. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: Dean Reece <dean.reece@eng.sun.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any trouble using Matrox Millenium?? Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 11:06:11 -0800 Organization: JavaSoft Message-ID: <32A86EA3.10BA@eng.sun.com> References: <57ujsh$kl0@news.manassas.ibm.com> <584g42$gsf@news.tuwien.ac.at> <585drk$sg5@nntp1.best.com> <588m5g$9oa@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marcel Bresink wrote: > > cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) wrote: > > On 12/04/96, Khanh P. Nguyen wrote: > > >In article <57ujsh$kl0@news.manassas.ibm.com> Koplien@vnet.IBM.com > > >writes: > > >> Sometimes ago I posted about a strange behavior concerning the cold > > >start. I suggest the driver > > >Hi, > > >The second behaves strange. Sometimes after rebooting the graphic card > > >output a horizontal frequency of exactly two times the expected [...] > > > This is strange but I had similar problems with a PPro 200 and a > > Matrox Millinium card. Sometimes after a reboot the monitor would be > > unable to synch. Turning > > I have the very same problem with an on-board Matrox Millenium (Storm) > chipset in a Pentium 133 digital Celebris GL system. Shortly after booting > NEXTSTEP, the horizontal frequency seems to shift wildly, and sometimes the > monitor loses sync. After approximately 20 seconds, everything stabilizes and > the screen will look fine until the next reboot. It has nothing to do with > "cold" hardware: When you do a warm-start, you'll see the same effect again. > > I observed the same behaviour with an OS/2 driver for the Millenium on the > same system, but the Win 95 and NT drivers never had any problem. Another > Matrox Millenium I tested, didn't have any problems whatsoever. So it seems > to be a certain combination of hardware and software to make this effect > happen. Strange... > > Marcel > > --- > Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science > Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 > MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink This effect is due to the PLL not being able to sync to the right frequency. For those that don't know about PLL's, here is a short tutorial: Modern video cards support dozens of modes at several refresh rates. This requires a stable dot-clock source that is able to produce a tremendous number of frequencies. A PLL (Phase-Locked Loop) is such a device (also used in TVs to tune channels). The idea is that you have a stable reference clock, usually provided by a crystal. You also have a VCO (Voltage Controlled Oscillator) which can produce a wide range of frequencies, the exact frequency being dependent on the voltage passed to its input. Now, add programmable dividers to the outputs of both of these clock sources. A 'phase comparator' compares these two divided frequencies and outputs a signal which represents the 'error' or difference in phase of the two sources. That error signal is fed into the VCO to help it home in on the desired frequency. So, to program the VCO, you would write an equation that expresses the ratio of the desired DotClock to the ReferenceClock. It looks something like "Fref/D1 = Fdot/D2". If Fref is 1.8Mhz, and the desired dot clock is 110Mhz, then you get "1.8M/D1 = 110/D2". This reduces to "1.8M/9 = 110M/500", so D1=9, D2=500 - those are the values you program into the programmable dividers. So far so good, now why do PLL's sometimes have problems locking on to the target frequency? PLL's can have trouble getting locked onto their frequency initially, but once locked, they tend to stay locked. When new values are programmed into the programmable dividers, the PLL suddenly starts producing large and wild error values, which causes the VCO to fluctuate. PLL's are designed to deal with this, of course, but under some conditions they can get caught in a harmonic relationship rather than the desired 1:1 lock. Also, in environments with lots of electrical noise (i.e., inside a computer), they can lock onto the wrong frequency, or just flail around because of the conflicting signals. There are tricks that the programmer can sometimes pull to help the PLL out. For instance, a PLL may have certain divisor combinations that are less stable, or harder to lock onto initially; these can be avoided. Also, some frequencies are easier to lock coming from one 'side' or the other (start with a higher freq and slide down to lock on the desired lower freq). In most cases, it is the video card vendor's job to decide what PLL divisor values to use for each mode/refresh rate. The values in the NEXTSTEP driver were provided by Matrox, and so should represent the optimum choices. The particular problem that several people have seen with some Matrox cards in some machines with some drivers can be chalked up to several contributing factors (in no particular order): *** Thermal - probably one of the smaller factors, but the VCO changes characteristics with temperature, so a cold PLL can behave somewhat differently that a warm one. *** Exact Mode - Some divisor combinations are inherently less stable than others. Higher freq's tend to be harder for the PLL. *** Noise Environment - How much electrical noise is the PLL having to contend with? On some DVT models of a PC with an integrated Matrox, this PLL problem showed up quite often. The fix (If I remember correctly) was to add an inductor which apparently blocked some noise from the switching power supply. *** Exact Model - The PLL is in the RAMDAC (from IBM, I think) rather than the MGA2064W CRTC chip. Matrox ships both 175MHz and 220MHz versions. *** Lot/Batch - Chips vary by lot, and the Millennium was been shipping for some time. There will be different behavior from early RAMDACs than from later ones. Hopefully this sheds some light onto why the problem is occuring, though it doesn't help fix the problem ;-) Good luck, -Dean
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Mono -- Ram?? Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 19:31:41 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <589tdi$j6i@news.wco.com> References: <32A794A0.55D8@ritchie.acomp.usf.edu> Craig Christophel <cchristo@ritchie.acomp.usf.edu> wrote: >I am planningon upgrading my mono 68040 and I was wondering what type of >ram would be needed for this system. >the board has : > 8 30 pin slots > 1 72 pin slot For your NeXTStation, here are the memory numbers: Number SIMM slots: 8 SIMM group size: 4 SIMM type: 30-pin low profile SIMM access rating: 100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9) Maximum RAM: 32 MB The hardware doesn't support parity checking, although you can insert parity SIMMS if you like. SIMMs shouls be added in groups of four identical parts. The 72 pin slot is for a DSP memory expansion board. Ignore it unless you're a hardcore DSP/synth hacker or have lots of friends at CCRMA... >also.. > could anyone reccomend some scsi CDrom drives and or HD's htat work >well with the station Almost all SCSI drives will work. The drive must support SCSI 1 command set, async operation, and 8 bit bus. (v17.4 or later; almost everything made after 1989). This is a lowest common denominator among almost all SCSI disks. The SCSI-2, Ultra, and related devices are SUPPOSED to support SCSI-1 as a fallback. Some drives may need to have jumpers moved about to get SCSI-1 operation working. (Folks have reported difficulties with some IBM SCSI-2 disks supporting only synchronous mode) Make sure you get the documentation with the drive. You'll occasionally see differential or wide SCSI hardware for sale really cheap. Avoid these, as they usually can't be made to work without special adapter hardware. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me.
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep 4.0 mach runs great on Cyrix 6x86 P166+ (mostly) Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 19:31:37 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <589tdd$j6i@news.wco.com> References: <581the$2h96@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5873gm$iei@news3.texas.net> mrbill@texas.net (Bill Bradford) wrote: >Jessica Severin (jessica@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu) wrote: >: Hello everyone >: I've successfully upgraded my Dell Dimension P90 with a Tyan Tomcat III/512KB >: cache (S1563s) motherboard and a Cyrix 6x86 P166+GP cpu. The performance of >: the system is quite good. The only problem is that the following software >: hangs the CPU: >: The NextStep 3.3 operating system kernel >: OmniWeb 2.x >: I've got a dual boot machine and the Openstep Mach 4.0 partition boots and >: runs fine, but the 3.3 partition doesn't boot. I'm positive it's the Cyrix >: chip because I replaced the 6x86 with a Pentium 133 (everything else the >: same) and both Nextsep3.3 and Omniweb 2.x ran fine. A number of other users have reported problems with the Tyan motherboards in these newsgroups. I'm starting to think that these belong on the 'cool ideas to be avoided' list. Is anyone using them successfully (no lockups, freezes, mystery panics) ? >Hm, how could Openstep *Mach* run on an x86 platform? I'd like to know. Pretty well, since the port was done a few years back. There are also versions that work on selected SPARCStation, and of course, the old black m68k hardware. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CDROM and 1-2Gb HD for black. Recommendations? Date: 06 Dec 1996 20:40:36 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Distribution: world Message-ID: <SHAFFER.96Dec6224037@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> Hello, I am buying a mono-turbo slab and want to buy a 1-2Gb HD and CDROM drive for it. It is comming with a ~400Mb internal HD so both of the drives need to be externals. I've looked through my PC catalogs but I'm having a hard time finding a reasonable price on SCSI products plus I'm not sure what type of drive I need to get (yes, I read the FAQ but it mentions SCSI-2 and I see "Ultra SCSI, Ultra-wide SCSI" and things like that but no "SCSI-2"). Please, if you can make a recommendation for what I should get and where I should get it I'd appreciate it. Keep in mind that I'm looking to spend less than US$500. Can it be done? Please e-mail or post. If there are any requests for a summary I will post one. David Shaffer -- David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 dshaffer@wscgate.wsc.edu
From: Eren_Kotan@next.com (Eren Kotan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3Com 590 driver for OS 4.x? Date: 6 Dec 1996 20:35:04 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <58a01o$crv@news.next.com> References: <584g9u$t3d@xmission.xmission.com> Kristopher writes: > If NeXT is listening, are you going to release a 3C590 driver soon? I've put in a request for this driver already with our driver engineers, however, this does not guarantee that a driver will be released soon. Regards, Eren -- Eren Kotan Best friend money can buy. NeXT Software (UK) Limited ObjectLine Support
From: scott965@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocac Subject: Re: ****DO YOU WANT SOME EXTRA CASH, TRY THAT!!!!!!! Date: 1 Dec 1996 21:14:16 GMT Organization: none Distribution: inet Message-ID: <57ssf8$1mj@tkhut.sojourn.com> References: <01bbdfb9$df4f98a0$2e606d86@nik.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> this is a scam and it is illegal BEWARE In <01bbdfb9$df4f98a0$2e606d86@nik.csn.tu-chemnitz.de> "HAIKO" wrote: > Oh! My? $$$$ > THIS IS THE FAIREST MOST HONEST WAY I KNOW TO SHARE THE WEALTH! Hello! > (Save this file now...it will save you some time typing later if you > decide to try this) > Would you like to make thousands of dollars, quick, legally, with NO > CATCH? Then keep reading....please take five minutes to read this > article it will change your life, just like it did mine. It's true! > You can make up to or over $50,000 dollars in 4-6 weeks, maybe sooner! > I SWEAR I'M NOT LYING TO YOU, AND THIS IS NOT A SCAM! If you're > intrested, keep reading; if you're not, I apologize for wasting your > time. > Here we go. A little while back, I was browsing through these > newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to > this that said you could make thousands of dollars in weeks with only > an initial investment of $5! So, I thought, "Yeah, right, must be a > scam", but I was curious, like most of us , so I kept reading. Anyway, > it > said that you send $1 to each of the 5 names and addresses stated in the > article. You then place your own name and address in the article at > the bottom of the list at #5, and post the article in at least 200 > newsgroups (there are thousands). No catch, that was it! > So after thinking it over, talking to a few people first, I tried it. > I figured what have I got to lose except for 5 stamps and $5, right? > Well, guess what...within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! > I was shocked! I still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it > another thought. But then money kept coming IN, tripling in size and > multiplying by 10-20 times the amount that I got the first week! In my > first week I made about 20 to 30 dollars. But by the end of the second > week, I had made a total of over $1,000!!!! In the third week, I had > over $10,000 dollars, and it's still growing. This is my fourth week > (Oct 11) and I've made about $42,000 TOTAL, and the money is still > coming in..... > Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, WHY it > works...also, make sure you print a copy of the article NOW, so you get > the informatoin off of it, and begin making money. > > The process is very simple, and it consists of 3 EASY steps: > > STEP 1: Get 5 seperate pieces of paper and write the following on each > sheet of paper..."PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST. YOU ARE NUMBER > 4." Get five $1 bills and place ONE inside each piece of paper that > you just wrote on, and fold each piece of paper so the bill will not be > seen in the envelope (otherwise, nosey people who like to steal envelopes > with money in it will get yours). Put one paper inside the envelope > and seal it. Do the same for all 5. You should now have 5 envelopes > sealed, EACH have a piece of paper AND a $1 bill stuffed inside of the > paper. Make sure those words that were stated above are stated on each > paper. What you are doing is creating a service by this, this is > PERFECTLY LEGAL. Now then, mail the 5 envelopes with the paper and $1 > in each to the following 5 addresses: > > 1. H. H. , 435 Franklin TPA Apt 15 Mahwah, N.J. 07430 > 2. Bruce, P.O. BOX 63 4700 KEELE ST., NORTH YORK, ONTARIO, M3J 1P3 > 3. Meta Zupan, Dvorska vas 12, 4275 Begunje na Gorenjskem, Slovenia > 4. P.DEBOUZY, 9 rue des Lavandieres, 78530 BUC, FRANCE > 5. Nicholas Portmann, Vettersstrasse 54, Z.105, PLZ 09126, Chemnitz, > Germany > > STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the > other 4 names up (5 becoming 4, 4 becoming 3, ect.) and put YOUR NAME > as number 5 on the list. You can slightly alter this article if you need > to, editing what you need to edit. > > STEP 3: Post your amended article (with your name at #5) to at least > 200 news groups ( I think there are close to 18,000 of them). All you > need is say, at least 200. HOW TO DO THIS: If you have Netscape 3.0 > do EXACTLY the following: > > 1) Click on any news group like normal, THEN click on 'TO NEWS', which > is on the far left when you're in the newsgroups page. This will bring > up a box to type a message in. > > 2) Leave the newsgroup box like it is, CHANGE the subject box to > something flashy, like, "NEED CASH $$$ READ HERE $$$" or "FAST CASH"!!! > > 3) Tab once and you should be ready to type. Now, retype (only once) > THIS whole article WORD FOR WORD, except to insert your name at #5, and > to remove #1 off the list, plus any other small changes you think you > need to make. Keep almost all of it the SAME! > > 4) When you're done typing the WHOLE article, click on FILE in THIS > BOX, RIGHT ABOUVE SEND, NOT WHERE IT SAYS NETSCAPE NEWS ON THE FIRST > BOX. Click on SAVE AS when you're under FILE. Save you artcle as a > text file to your C: or A: drive. DO NOT SEND OR POST YOUR ARTICLE > UNTIL YOU DO THIS. Once saved, move on to number 5 below. > > 5) If you still have all of your text, send or post to this newsgroup > now by just clicking send, which is right below FILE, and right above > Cc: . > > 6)Here's where you're going to post all 200. OK, click on any news > group then click on 'TO NEWS', again in the top left corner. Leave the > NEWSGROUPS BOX alone again, put a flashy subject title in the SUBJECT > BOX, hit TAB once you're in the body of the message, and then click on > ATTACHMENTS, which is below the SUBJECT BOX. You will get another box > to come up. Click on ATTACH FILE, then find YOUR file that you saved; > click once on the file, and then click OPEN' now click on OK; if you did > this right, you should see your file name in the attachments box, and > it will be shaded green. > > IF YOU USE IE EXPLORER IT'S JUST AS EASY...HOLDING DOWN THE LEFT MOUSE > BUTTON, HIGHLIGHT THIS ARTICLE. THEN PRESS THE "CRTL" KEY AND THE "C" > KEY AT THE SAME TIME TO COPY THIS ARTICLE. THEN PRINT THIS ARTICLE FOR > YOUR RECORDS TO HAVE THE NAMES OF THOSE YOU WILL BE SENDING $1 BILLS > TO. NEXT GO TO THE NEWS GROUPS AND PRESS "POST AN ARTICLE" A WINDOW > WILL OPEN. TYPE IN YOUR HEADLINE IN THE SUBJECT AREA AND THEN CLICK IN > THE LARGE WINDOW BELOW. PRESS "CRTL" AND THEN "V" AND THE ARTICLE WILL > BE PLACED IN THE WINDOW. IF YOU WANT TO EDIT THE ARTICLE, DO SO AND > THEN HIGHLIGHT AND COPY IT AGAIN. NOW EVERYTIME YOU POST THE ARTICLE > > IN > A NEW NEWSGROUP ALL YOU HAVE TO REPEAT "CTRL" AND "V" AND PRESS POST. > > 7)That's it. Each time you do this, all you have to do is type in a > different newsgroup, so that way, it posts to 200 DIFFERENT newsgroups, > you see? Now you just have 199 to go!! (Don't worry, each one takes > about 30 seconds, once you get used to it) REMEMBER 200 IS THE MINIMUM. > The more you post the more money you will make. > > AND THAT'S IT!!! THAT'S THE ONLY 3 STEPS THERE IS!!! > > You are now in the mail order business and will start recieving your $1 > envelopes from various people all over the world within days. HINT THE > MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST TO, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE. You may want > to rent a PO Box eventually because of all the mail. If you wish to > stay anonymous, you can come up with a name, such as "manager" or > "investor". Just make sure all the addresses are CORRECT, please. > > LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SYSTEM WORK!!!! > > Out of every 200 postings, let's say I ONLY recieve 5 replies, which is > actually VERY LOW. So I made 5 dollars with my name at #5. Now then, > each person who just sent me $1 makes, say only 200 postings, now with > your name at number 4, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF 1000 POSTINGS, not including > yours too. 50 people send you $1 now; thats $50 you just made! Now, > then your new 50 agents post 200 each with YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 3, OR > 10,000 POSTING (50x200). Average return is 500 at $1 each is $500. > They make 200 postings, which is 5,000 returns at $1 each, which is > $5000 dollars! And finally, 5000 people make 200 postings wach with > YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 1. YOU NOW GET A RETURN OF $50,000 BEFORE YOUR NAME > DROPS OFF THE LIST. AND THAT'S IF EVERYONE MAKES 200 POSTINGS ONLY, > AND IF ONLY 5 PERSONS RESPOND!!!!! > When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest > posting that is appearing in the newsgroups, and SEND OUT ANOTHER $5 TO > THE NAMES ON THE LIST, PUTTING YOUR NAME AT 5 AGAIN. And start posting > again. The thing to remember is, do you realize that THOUSANDS OF > PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE JOINING THE INTERNET AND READING THESE > ARTICLES EVERY DAY, JUST LIKE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW!!! So can afford $5 > dollars and see if it really works? I think so..... > People have said, "What if the plan is played out and no one > sends you > the money?" So what! What are the chances of that happening when there > are TONS OF NEW HONEST USERS AND NEW HONEST PEOPLE who are joining the > Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? > Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with THOUSANDS > of those joing the actual Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY > and this WILL WORK, I PROMISE YOU!!! You just have to be honest. Make > sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW, also, try to keep a list of > everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the mnewsgroups > to make sure everyone is playing fairly. REMEMBER, HONESTY IS THE BEST > POLICY. YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT THE BASIC IDEA TO MAKE MONEY!! GOOD > LUCK TO ALL AND PLEASE PLAY FAIRLY AND YOU WILL REAP THE HUGE REWARDS > FROM THIS, WHICH IS TONS OF EXTRA CASH!!! > **By the way, if you try to decieve people by posting the > > messages with > your name on the list and not sending the money to the people already > > on > the list, you will not get much. Someone I talKed to knew someone who > did that and he only made $150 dollars, and that's AFTER seven or eight > weeks! Then he sent the 5 $1 bills, people added him to their lists, > and in 4-5 weeks, he had over $10K. > THIS IS THE FAIREST AND MOST HONEST WAY I HAVE EVER SEEN TO SHARE THE > WEALTH OF THE WORLD WITHOUT COSTING ANYTHING BUT OUR TIME!!! > . > > > > > > > > > > > >
From: JanUlrich.Hasecke@Leverkusen.Netsurf.de (Jan Ulrich Hasecke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <58875l$cqa@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Control: cancel <58875l$cqa@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Date: 6 Dec 1996 18:37:40 GMT Organization: PIRONET GmbH Message-ID: <589p5l$3d6@sail.leverkusen.netsurf.de> cancel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Iomega Zip backup? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E20Bsy.oJE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 19:36:33 GMT References: <32A8C213.6DE5@lag.ensieg.fr> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <32A8C213.6DE5@lag.ensieg.fr>, Matija Exel <exel@lag.ensieg.fr> wrote: >hello, > >I have an Intel NextStep 3.3 station (with the Adaptec 2940 PCI >SCSI driver version 3.32). > >I'd like to know if one can use the Iomega Zip SCSI drive for >backups? > Sure! >I checked with the Iomega web site which says they don't provide >Unix SCSI drivers; it is also not clear whether the Zip disks can be >formatted. > No drivers or anything required for Zip under NS--just plug it in (the hardest part, due to the DB-25 connector on the Zip drive) and you're all set. I've had no problems formatting Zip disks under NS. I bought the "IBM" ones and all went well. Formatting the disk that comes with the drive is another matter, though. I have the source for a Linux thingie that will let you muck with the write protect, and if/when I have time I'll move it to NS. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Eren_Kotan@next.com (Eren Kotan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need info on changing/finding ROM password Date: 6 Dec 1996 20:53:17 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <58a13t$cuf@news.next.com> References: <32a2f7ae.10674443@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> Sean M. Burke writes > I've got an old cube that I've never known the ROM password to. Now I > need to boot it in single user mode, and can't without the password. > Is there a hardware way to find out or reset the ROM password? Well, there is an app called HardwarePassword.app which allows you to change the hardware password easily. You can find a copy of this at: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/misc The alternative is to take out the internal battery and wait a while :) Regards, Eren -- Eren Kotan Best friend money can buy. NeXT Software (UK) Limited ObjectLine Support
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:40:42 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <Eme9=Ou00UhB82DWkF@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5849d3$79o@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <585shj$21si@uni.library.ucla.edu> <586n09$a9g@news3.texas.net> <587a7p$22t6@uni.library.ucla.edu> <gme6GrC00UhWI1vVsC@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <gme6GrC00UhWI1vVsC@andrew.cmu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 6-Dec-96 Re: looking for suggestions.. by Charles W. Swiger@andrew > let-through voltage during a surge? What's the claiming time? What's ^^^^^^^^ My fingers didn't type what I wanted-- that's supposed to be "clamping". -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dhrystones "All Wet?" Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996 16:48:05 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Yme9GJ600UhBA2DYlP@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <19961206185001.NAA25153@ladder01.news.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <19961206185001.NAA25153@ladder01.news.aol.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 6-Dec-96 Dhrystones "All Wet?" by bnd00796@aol.com > I have a product spec sheet provide from Decision One that covers the > various aspects of the NeXT Station Mono. It says for the performance of > the 25 Mhz model, the Dhrystone MIPS is 18.6. When I run a "Benchmark" > program that is found most of the ftp sites (it is from NeXT Magazine or > something like that) it says my performance is 16.55... Is this program > to old to notice the 040 processor or is my cpu actually just a little > slow??? Neither. Benchmarks vary for various reasons including differences in the compiler used, the amount of RAM on a system, whether the system had other processes running or was in single-user mode, etc. They may also vary because people have slightly different definitions of what a "Dhrystone" actually is and what units it should be measured in (like VAX MIPS, or _insert_deity_here_ only knows what else). -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Re: Multiple Logic Boards in Cube... Message-ID: <1996Dec4.123716.16168@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 96 12:37:16 GMT References: <329CAF20.122D@sirius.com> <01bbe0a4$57357480$3e031281@bananajr> Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA In article <01bbe0a4$57357480$3e031281@bananajr> "Mark Bessey" <MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM> writes: >Timothy Stonis <timothy@sirius.com> wrote in article ><329CAF20.122D@sirius.com>... >> I was wondering if it was possible to put two logic boards into a >> single NeXT Cube. > >Yes. You just have to modify the backplane to set the slot ID's of the >slots to 0. And remove any NeXTbus interface chips on the motherboards. >There's a document out on the net somewhere that explains how to do this... > >>Does the OS take advantage of having two processors? > >Not exactly. Think of it as two computers in the same box, rather than one >computer with two processors. > Actually, there was (is?) a NeXT demo program called "zila", if I recall correctly, that is supposed to be able to distribute a running program across several CPUs. Unfortunately, it does not seem to be documented very well and you would have to get info from people who have actually used it. Also, I may not know what I am talking about! -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: POSTSCRIPT on non-PS printer Date: 6 Dec 1996 23:29:01 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development Message-ID: <58aa7t$451@alice.turbocat.de> References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.961203070818.315A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> wrote: >I'm running NS3.3 for Intel and am about to purchase a color inkjet like >an HP 870. I print a lot of TeX file with embedded postscript images. >Since the HP870 (and most other affordable printers) don't do postscript, >can I work around this? > >Any other printer suggestions? Look at Ghostscript, JetPilot and Dots. I like JP best. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.de (NeXTMail,MIME)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXTCube / OD Problems (was: OD cause system not to boot) Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E1vJo3.44@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 1996 05:38:27 GMT References: <581pis$gdo@lana.zippo.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <581pis$gdo@lana.zippo.com>, <armin@messe.de> wrote: > >I'm not sure if the following print-out from the ROM monitor is related to >this problem (after printing the SCSI stuff): > >odc0 0x2112000 >odc0 at odc0 slave 0 >odc1 at odc0 slave 1 > That's the right output for a machine with no OD connected--the "odc1" is the control stuff inside one of the ASICs on the cube's motherboard. If the drive is recognised you should also get something like "Drive rom v8, servo rom v8". My drive gets this far, but does nothing when you stick a disk in (well, it spins it up, but that's about it--then it just sits there and clicks). >Any suggestions as to what the problem might be and how to repair the eject >mechanism? > Sounds like a more serious problem, since the machine isn't recognising the drive's presence. Can't help much. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: none@none.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printer acting up, help please? Date: 7 Dec 1996 00:50:38 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <58af0u$meh@tkhut.sojourn.com> (sorry about the fake headers, I hate spam emails) My printer is acting up on me, and i was wondering how to fix it. I get a wide black streak in the middle of the first page printed after being off for a while (with that script that powers down when no in use). I opened up the top and took out the cartridge, looked around, and put the cartridge back in.... everything looked clean and good..... The second sheet out is usually ok. I have only had this happen the last few printings (I use the printer rarely) any ideas? thank you. Gary gcl@mail.sojourn.com
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ultra SCSI: compatible? Date: 7 Dec 1996 04:52:24 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <58at68$eib@news.digifix.com> References: <5822ob$i0b@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <587h8t$3p3@news.digifix.com> <5897ia$qgk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <5897ia$qgk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> On 12/06/96, Christian Neuss wrote: >Scott Anguish (sanguish@digifix.com) wrote: >> Last weekend, YET ANOTHER Quantum Empire drive went south on me. >> Same old story, it refuses to spin up. > >Ack! I was about to reply that 7200 rpm drives get very hot, which >reduces their lifespan, and that in general, they should be run in >an external enclosure rather then inside a slab. Some dealers even >advise not to run them without an *additional* mini fan. That's >why I tried to get one of the Fireball drives - they run at 5400, >don't get too hot, and I know several people who use them, and have >not experienced problems yet. > >However, I just looked up the Empire's specs, just to find out that >the run at 5400 rpm, too. Do they get hot? Maybe they should be run >in an external case anyway. > Did I mention that of all these drives, only one of the 540s was actually in a machine, all the rest were in external cases... >> I put a Seagate Ultra SCSI hard drive in my slab about a month ago >> to replace the jet engine drive that was in there... > >Thanks for the info! So at least it looks as if Ultra drives can be >used without problems. > Well, they've worked for me.... your mileage may vary.. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Iomega Zip backup? Date: 7 Dec 1996 05:07:03 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <58au1n$cf6@news.istar.ca> References: <32A8C213.6DE5@lag.ensieg.fr> <E20Bsy.oJE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <E20Bsy.oJE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> On 12/06/96, David Evans wrote: > No drivers or anything required for Zip under NS--just plug it in >(the hardest part, due to the DB-25 connector on the Zip drive) and >you're all set. I've had no problems formatting Zip disks under NS. >I bought the "IBM" ones and all went well. Formatting the disk that >comes with the drive is another matter, though. I have the source >for a Linux thingie that will let you muck with the write protect, >and if/when I have time I'll move it to NS. I think someone has already put together a utility to fiddle with the write protection feature. I don't have a Zip Drive so I can't comment on its viability. It only works for Intel. Here's the info: ----- FYI - minimal ZIP drive support 4 NeXT by Alexander Wilkie (Vienna University of Technology, Austria) on 10/03/96 Hi newsgroup! The software in question is still rather raw, so it's not for c.s.n.a yet, but I've uploaded v 1.0 of "ziptool" (wow, what an imaginative name!) to ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/submissions All it can do at the moment is to set/remove the write protection of ZIP disks from the command line. It is for Intel only at the moment because the SCSI2_Kit I used gives you some weird warnings when compiled quad-fat. See the README file for details. In addition to the planned changes metioned there I'll try to add JAZ support as well; this should bring about a re-name. Alexander Wilkie -- e-mail: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME o.k.) www : http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~wilkie/ ----- Jean-Paul Samson jsamson@istar.ca -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -=- jsamson@istar.ca -=- NeXTmail & MIME welcome -============- http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul/ -=============- -===================================================================-
From: jpmeia@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How do you open a NeXT ADB Mouse? Date: 4 Dec 1996 13:19:53 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <583tpp$23j@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <19961123042600.XAA16273@ladder01.news.aol.com> <582frp$hfr@t3.mscf.uky.edu> I found that I had to clean the ball as well as the metal rollers. I wiped it thoroughly with screen-cleaning pads. You could tell the difference in the appearance of the ball, and the mouse worked normally again. -- Please respond as needed to: jpmeia@ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome
From: jnaukkar@orion.pspt.fi (Janne Naukkarinen tm223) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TEST Only Date: 4 Dec 1996 14:06:47 GMT Organization: pspt.fi Message-ID: <5840hn$let@Camel.pspt.fi> This is a test only.
From: clp5@cornell.edu (Collin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Whining NeXT Monitor Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 02:37:15 -0400 Organization: Cornell University Sender: clp5@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <clp5-0712960237150001@cu-dialup-1008.cit.cornell.edu> I have a NeXTCube with a 4000a monitor which I just recently shipped across the country. Somewhere between here and California it developed a subtle high pitched whine. At first I thought nothing of it because the monitor seems to work completely fine, but lately the sound has been driving me insane especially if I work late at night. Is there any sort of simple solution to this? Has anyone encountered this? I'm looking for any possible solutions...Thanks a lot...Collin
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: POSTSCRIPT on non-PS printer Date: 4 Dec 1996 14:36:45 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <58429t$ue@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.961203070818.315A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> In article <Pine.NXT.3.92.961203070818.315A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> writes: > I'm running NS3.3 for Intel and am about to purchase a color inkjet like > an HP 870. I print a lot of TeX file with embedded postscript images. > Since the HP870 (and most other affordable printers) don't do postscript, > can I work around this? I put together such a package called: GSPrintFilter find it at your nearest friendly next ftp site (ftp.next.peak.org), or feel free to pick up my ongoing development version: http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/Software/OpenStep/Drivers/ The HP 550 driver should work fine for your printer. Good luck. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Salvo@AccessOne .COM (Marc Salvatori) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: My first NeXT experience Date: 7 Dec 1996 07:42:39 GMT Organization: AccessOne Message-ID: <58b75f$h99@kanga.accessone.com> References: <5817no$c9l@wombat.melbpc.org.au> Cc: gslater@popa.melbpc.org.au In <5817no$c9l@wombat.melbpc.org.au> Gordon Slater wrote: > Dumb question... Has anyone ever had as much trouble trying to install > the most expensive and greatest operating system in the free world as > I’ve had? Can anyone recommend the very best video card that would let > me make the most of NeXT STEP? A couple of years ago I had similar agonies. For me it was with a Number 9 card. I eventually replaced it with an ELSA, and all of my graphics troubles went away. IMHO, your 15-inch monitor will do little justice to any graphical environment. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | >< >< mailto:salvo@accessone.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted ><
From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Experience with Tecra 720 and DeskStation VPlus? Date: 4 Dec 1996 14:35:49 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Distribution: world Message-ID: <584285$1a90@news.doit.wisc.edu> I just got a DeskStation VPlus for my Toshiba Tecra, and am having a few problems. In particular, I am using a Xircom Ethernet Card, and when the computer is docked (and the card is in the computer PC-Slots), the card slows down to modem speeds. Also, the PCMCIA slots in the docking station don't seem to get recognized by the 4.0/4.1 PCMCIABus drivers. First, does anyone know of a solution to the above problems? I have also contacted Next Tech support about it and will report back if I get any info from that source. Second, are there any other "surprises" awaiting me with this docking setup under NextStep? I just want to make sure while I still have the opportunity to return it. Thanks -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://www.barbarian.com
From: Russell Petersen <russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 17" to PC 15-pin VGA adapter. Pointers? Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 09:41:21 -0700 Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <32A5A9B1.5FA9@valhalla.fc.hp.com> References: <32a3be30.4757622@snews2.zippo.com> <5825ue$24j@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank M. Siegert wrote: > > In <32a3be30.4757622@snews2.zippo.com> Mike Sorensen wrote: > > I have a nice lookin 17" monitor here for a NeXT color workstation and > > have heard that I can get an adapter to hook it up to PC's. > > > > Can anyone refer me to a supplier? > > > > This task is hard than it seems... the NeXT monitors is fixed frequency - > only 1172 x 892 in 68 Hz and need the sync (h/v) mixed in the green signal. > > Better get a nice multisync and sell the NeXT screen to a NeXT, Sun or HP > user. > > -- > * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net > * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy -- Well, I know that you can buy a video card for the PC that outputs RGB with sync on green made by Mirage. It is expensive however and does not give you the features of today's newest cards such as 3D. I have heard that the Number Nine (name of manufacturer) will do this but no-one has confirmed this for us. Russell J. Petersen ***** ***** VLSI Design Engineer *** /_ __ *** Hewlett Packard ICBD ** / / /_/ ** 3404 E. Harmony Rd. *** / *** Phone: (970) 229-7007 Ft. Collins, CO 80525 ***** ***** fax: (970) 229-6580 email: russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com All opinions are my own, of course, and reflect nothing about HP.
Date: 7 Dec 1996 09:43:16 GMT From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Sender: none@none.com Message-ID: <cancel.58af0u$meh@tkhut.sojourn.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <58af0u$meh@tkhut.sojourn.com> Control: cancel <58af0u$meh@tkhut.sojourn.com> Forgery cancelled by request of '' owner Original Subject: Printer acting up, help please?
From: cello@virgil.harvard.edu (Sean Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Driver for Professional Digital Audio Card Date: 4 Dec 1996 18:34:05 GMT Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Message-ID: <584g6t$oq3@decaxp.harvard.edu> I've been working with Rob Poor and a programmer to get a driver written for the AdB Digital Multiwav card, which is an ISA digital audio card with AES/EBU, S/PDIF, and Toslink optical input and outputs. It's driver compatible with the Pro-18 card, which adds 18 bit D toA converters. The Multiwav card is about $400, and the Pro-18 is about $500.00. We have begun testing of an alpha version of the driver, and would like to hear from people who might be interested in the driver. The programmer would like to sell this driver as shareware. I'll make a list of the people interested, and keep you posted as to when a final version will be released. I can't tell you how excited I am to have professional quality audio from a NeXT based system again. Thanks, Sean - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sean Varah Harvard Computer Music Studio cello@mario.harvard.edu, http://www-mario.harvard.edu NeXTMail Welcome - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any trouble using Matrox Millenium?? Date: 4 Dec 1996 18:32:34 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <584g42$gsf@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <57ujsh$kl0@news.manassas.ibm.com> In article <57ujsh$kl0@news.manassas.ibm.com> Koplien@vnet.IBM.com writes: > Sometimes ago I posted about a strange behavior concerning the cold start. I suggest the driver Hi, I'm having the same problem. We have 2 PC: 1/ Pentium 166 with 64MB, Matrox Millenium 2/ PentiumPro 200 with 64MB, Matrox Millenium The first one runs without any problem. The second behaves strange. Sometimes after rebooting the graphic card output a horizontal frequency of exactly two times the expected horizontal frequency (thanks to my Eizo F764-T screen which automatically shut down and warn me about that). Power off and reboot again sometimes helps. If it doesn't help, then power off + wait for 2 days + reboot will help :-). We have changed the graphic card still have the same sympton. BTW, under dos+windows everything seems to be ok. We conclude that the problem must come from the driver but the first one has no problem although using the same driver. So problem=driver+hardwareconfig? Anyone has more experience? Thanks a lot, Khanh,
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Turbo Monitor spec Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 19:58:06 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <584m6p$1uq@news.wco.com> References: <32A3365A.41C6@jhu.edu> Ken Overton <kov@jhu.edu> wrote: >(This is in a FAQ somewhere, no? Tell me where, please.) >A friend of mine has a color turbo NeXT with a dead monitor. I had an >extra SGI Indy monitor laying around which seemed to have the same type >of connector. Being the innocents that we are we hooked the sucka up to >the color turbo NeXTStation and it worked beautifully -- better than the >NeXT monitor ever did! >What "standard" is this? If SGI and turbo slabs support it, can I >assume that other computers will as well? If so, just what the hell is >the spec called so I can ask for its appropriate cards, cables and/or >t-shirts by name? I figure if you know what I'm talking about you don't >need me to describe the pinouts for you. It's a high resolution display using composite sync (AKA sync on green). Many high-resolution color monitors built for Sun, SGI, and NeXT use the 13W3 connector and can be interchanged. Mid to high end PD and Macintosh monitors may also be used, with the addition of a 13W3 to 3 BNC cable adapter. The adapter is available from several on-line sources, and larger electronics shops well stocked with cables (I got mine at Fry's Electronics). Here's what the NeXTStation Color Turbo puts out in the way of video: 1120 x 832 raster 68 Hz vertical refresh rate (72 Hz with ADB keyboard) Composite Sync (HSYNC and VSYNC superimposed on green) 13W3 connector (Only the three co-ax pins are used.) Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: "Mark Bessey" <MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More than one CPU on OPENSTEP?? Date: 4 Dec 1996 20:11:49 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <01bbe220$f0ed6060$3e031281@bananajr> References: <01bbe17e$d331b640$39ee45cb@abico.com.tw> ·¨©s¾Ë <batmon@abico.com.tw> wrote in article <01bbe17e$d331b640$39ee45cb@abico.com.tw>... > Two questions here; > > 1. Can OPENSTEP for Intel install into a PC which has 2 or more Pentium > Pro CPU on it, and how OPENSTEP controll or share the resource to these > CPU (OPENSTEP for Mach, not OPENSTEP for NT) ?? Yes, it will install on a standard dual P6 motherboard. Unfortunately, one of the processors will just sit there, doing nothing. > 2. What is the maxium RAM that OPENSTEP can handle?? I believe that the maximum is 512MB. I've never personally used a system with more than 128, though. Hope this helps, -Mark
From: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cube w/ 2*040boards & Dimensionsboard & some internet acces questions Date: 7 Dec 1996 17:22:01 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <58c93p$44k@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <rr-0412961911590001@ztm04-04.dial.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <rr-0412961911590001@ztm04-04.dial.xs4all.nl> On 12/04/96, rr wrote: >Hi there, > >I've just purchased a NeXTCube. It came with 2 68040 boards and a NeXT >Dimensionsboard and some more stuff like a modem, cd-rom aso. >Unfortunately, no manuals...but I'm managing, barely. >First question:from the faq I learned that it is possible to have 2 boards >inside the Cube. In this particular case it was a 68030 board and a 68040. >I was wondering if anybody has tried 2 040's ( and the Dimensions- board >in there too) and how they did it, what their experience is aso. >Second Question: ofcourse I want to be able to use NeXTMail, Omniweb and >so on. However I'm left clueless. It seems that TCP/IP is there on the >machine ( it says so in some online manual ) but no PPP. How do I >configure TCP/IP ? (More importantly, where to find it on my machine). >Unfortunately, I'm running Nextstep 2.1.... I do have 3.0 on cd-rom tho, >but I need to buy some cables first. I'm planning on getting the latest >version. >I have some UNIX knowledge. I would already be quite happy if I could just >read email on my Cube. But how do I dial in at my internet acces provider >? Get PPP2.2 at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ppp.installation.kit/PP P-2.2-0.4.6.NISH.b.pkg.tar.gz Read the instructions carefully and you should be able to do it. >4. Anybody out there in the netherlands who has some books on objective-c ? >Questions, questions. The NeXT is beatifull, but without manual it's ...... The manuals are in /NextLibrary/Bookshelves there should be a SysAdmin and a Developper bookshelves. François -- ______________________________________________________ Francois Magnan Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques Universite de Montreal email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Becoming root on next machines? Message-ID: <E21nLG.46I@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32A4706F.5F35@valhalla.fc.hp.com> Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 12:48:52 GMT In article <32A4706F.5F35@valhalla.fc.hp.com> Russell Petersen <russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com> writes: > Ok, we have some old cubes and nextstations that we do not have root on > anymore (lost the password). Anyways, we need to get on a clean off some > old data to get them ready for sale. How do you become root without the > password? Is there not some way using the monitor program to defeat the > security system. It is probably an old version of Nextstep on the > machines (3.0 at most). > For anybody who wants to resell a networked NeXT machine best practice is to copy /usr/templates/client/etc/hostconfig and netinfo/* to /private/etc and reboot. The machine should be in a "out of the box" pristine standalone conf afterwards. The 'me' account should be able to do anything to every file on the system, then. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenBSD/NeXT68k Date: 04 Dec 1996 13:39:02 -0800 Organization: DataSphere Sender: mycroft@chrome.datasphere.net Message-ID: <x7iv6im1l5.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Well, now that PacBell finally figured out how to install an ISDN line, I'm starting to get the development team together. If you've emailed me before, please do so again. PacBell seems to love partial transit. Refresher: This is about porting OpenBSD (http://www.openbsd.org/) to NeXT black hardware. .mycroft -- [:]====================================================================[:] [\] Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> >>>>>[DataSphere]<<<<< [=] [=] Key fingerprint = DD B1 A7 D9 2D DF A0 F7 23 C2 6B EC 5A AD 01 A9 [\] [:]====================================================================[:]
From: Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Date: Sat, 7 Dec 96 17:19:31 +0100 Organization: Warty Wolfs Message-ID: <9612071619.AA20523@basil.icce.rug.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.1mach v148) In article <587a7p$22t6@uni.library.ucla.edu>, you wrote: > Um, Let me help you take your fat foot out of your mouth. > You seem to like being an expert, but first you ought to > learn to read what was written. > > 1) Yes, there are two digital outlets on the Power Pack II. > Yes, the know whether or not a digital or analog device > is plugged into it. They were designed for DAT recorders > such as the Tascam DA-30 which I have attached to it or > DA converters. > > 2) The basic premise of a line conditioner is to filter > electricity. If you didn't know, there is a motor which > makes your disk spin and if the electricity is filtered, > the motor spins more efficiently - meaning faster. Did > I say it spun faster to a level beyond which it was > designed. No. I said it spun faster. Period. It is probably > spinning as fast as it was designed to spin. Your disk > is probably not spinning up to its spec using unfiltered > AC. You probably think your modem is transmitting at 28.8 bps > - but your line speed is fluctuating somewhere below that. > > 3) Your ears are designed for something besides holding up > your glasses. Something emitting a higher pitch is vibrating > at a higher frequency, which means it is 'spinning faster.' > I'm glad you don't work in my studio. > > 4) I said it was an alternative to UPSes, not a substitute. > I also said I purchased mine before UPSes were generally > available. > > 5) Audio Advisor while not the highest end audio component > reseller in the U.S. is the largest. I would consider their > least opinion more valuable than the crap you spew. > > 6) Power Pack Specs: > Six spec-grade outlets > 2 digital > 4 analog > Industrial grade power filters > Industrial grade power dampers > Super fast acting MOVs > 15 amp circuit breaker > UL rating: 1440 watts @ 15 amps > > Enough of this stupidity. > > Charles Dvorak Anyone seen "Transmission Impossible" on BBC2 lately? "Here's how it works..." :-) --Tom.
From: rr@xs4all.nl (rr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cube w/ 2*040boards & Dimensionsboard & some internet acces questions Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 19:24:43 +0100 Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <rr-0712961924430001@ztm06-11.dial.xs4all.nl> References: <rr-0412961911590001@ztm04-04.dial.xs4all.nl> <589fe1$mc@news1.voicenet.com> <589ojc$3e9@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> In article <589ojc$3e9@pesto.cs.utexas.edu>, liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) wrote: :In article <589fe1$mc@news1.voicenet.com>, :Darren Wright <dwright1@voicenet.com> wrote: :>rr (rr@xs4all.nl) wrote: :[... lots of good stuff deleted ...] :>: 4. Anybody out there in the netherlands who has some books on objective-c ? :>: Questions, questions. The NeXT is beatifull, but without manual it's ...... :>: Hope somebody has some spare time left out there while surfing and can :>: help me get started, :> :>Check out maybe Borders. My local borders store has quite a few book on :>NeXTstep. ^^^^^^^ : :Wow! Is "Borders" in the Netherland too? : :Are there any Borders/Barnes Nobles type of chains in Europe? I'm :going to Italy next year so I need to be close to a bookstore. : :liuyi First of all: thanks for the info I got private and public ( this newsgroup), thanks to all of you. Actually I've never heard of Borders in the Netherlands...sounds like a cool place..Hey any Dutch Cube'rs out there !? -r-r-
From: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anybody using a Gigabyte motherboard Date: 7 Dec 1996 19:09:27 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <58cfd7$79k@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Hi, I am planning to buy an Intel based system to run NS. Anybody has experience with a Gigabyte motherboard? Is there any restrictions on the motherboard choice for NS (I suppose so but what are the best choices)? Thank you, Francois Magnan -- ______________________________________________________ Francois Magnan Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques Universite de Montreal email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: owolf@net66.com (Scott Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Connecting Mac and NeXT (black hardware) via serial ports Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 13:50:51 -0800 Organization: Net66 Message-ID: <owolf-ya023480000712961350510001@news.net66.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can anyone help me connect my NeXT Color Turbo station and my Mac Centris 610 via their serial ports so that the NeXT's boot processes will show up on the Mac's monitor? My FIMI monitor has died and I'm a newbie when it comes to using NeXT so I don't know how to do this. Thanks! Scott Johnson -- -------------------------- Sleep!?! That's where I'm a Viking! --------------------------
From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3Com 590 driver for OS 4.x? Date: 4 Dec 1996 11:35:42 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <584g9u$t3d@xmission.xmission.com> My new Dell OptiPlex GXpros have built-in 3Com 590 network adapters integrated on the motherboard. NeXTAnswers doesn't have a driver listed for this adapter. Is there a commercial or free version of this from someone else? If NeXT is listening, are you going to release a 3C590 driver soon? TIA, ........................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
From: ici@giocoso.osk.threewebnet.or.jp (Toshinao Ishii) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Panasonic PD/CD Drive Date: 04 Dec 1996 17:28:37 GMT Organization: 3WEB corp. Message-ID: <ICI.96Dec5022837@giocoso.osk.threewebnet.or.jp> References: <32A27099.324A@ibm.net> In-reply-to: buddyc@ibm.net's message of Sun, 01 Dec 1996 22:00:57 -0800 In article <32A27099.324A@ibm.net> buddyc@ibm.net writes: > Has anyone had any luck getting a PD/CD drive to work on black hardware? > It will read CDs all day long ... but if I insert a PD (DOS formatted) > it refuses to recognize and asks to initialize it. Any ideas? Thanks! There were discusions about PD/CD usage in Japanese next newsgroup, whose result can be found out disktab for PD/CD at http://www.nextjapan.co.jp/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2135.htmld/2135.html I tried the disktab on my NEXTSTEP for Intel and succeeded to format PD in NeXT format. Of course it is working both as PD and CD drive. I do not know about the case of DOS format nor Black hardware. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Toshinao Ishii email: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp
From: awang@plains.nodak.edu (Andy Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: shutdown problem with NSfip 3.3 Date: 7 Dec 1996 18:41:21 -0600 Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network (NDHECN) Message-ID: <58d2rh$48c@plains.nodak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm using NEXTSTEP 3.3 for Intel processors. with Patch1 applied. I have a symbioslogic based SCSI adapter. a Tyan Yorktown which uses the 53c825 adapter. attached are two SCSI-2 harddisks. fujitsu M1606S and HP C3725S and one CDROM sony CDU55S. using the latest symbios 53c8xx driver. version 3.33 here's the strange thing. sometimes when i restart or powerdown my system, the login window disappears, and the system hangs before the neat little graphical shutdown screen is shown. the harddisk light stays on, but there's no activity. i'm not sure, but it seems like the scsi bus is hung. Another problem i have is this, sometimes, at the end of the graphical shutdown, the little spinning disk stops spinning for a few seconds, then it moves just a tad, maybe one revolution. then it restarts. seems like everything is fine, but wheni boot back into NEXTSTEP my harddisk partitions get checked as if they weren't properly unmounted. normally, when the spinning disk stops, the system sits for half a second then reboots. any ideas what this might be caused by? i have strange termination issue with my scsi adapter. here's a diagram of the chain Fujitsu -> HP -> Sony -> Adapter the Fujitsu and the Adapter are terminated of course. but, the Sony cdrom driveis also terminated. If it's not, the scsi bus hangs usually during the system boot, sometimes after that's done, but no longer than a few minutes afterwards.. can't seem to solve this problem but with the strange termination OS/2 Linux, DOS all work fine. anyway, does anyone know of any strange problems with the symbios driver? or is it likely that my strange termination problem is causing the hanging or unproper unmounting of the partitions? thanks andy -- ------------------ Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT or MIME mail OK ------------------- - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - - What the hell is a chicken? - http://www.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - -------------------------- awang@plains.nodak.edu -----------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: Hard drive for slab Message-ID: <32AA1472.451C@goldengate.net> Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 19:05:54 -0600 Organization: Invisix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www1.ibmlink.ibm.com/HTML/SPEC/g2216021.html I have a friend that can get me a decent deal on this drive. Anyone used it on a turbo color slab? I think it should work, but wanted to check it out with you all first... Thanks!
From: jthomas@pluto.njcc.com (Jay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Deepspacetech? Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 18:30:38 -0600 Organization: Jay, Inc. Message-ID: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> Anyone bought from them? Testamonials? TIA.
From: jsn@audiospeech.ubc.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Driver for C&T 65548 chipset? Date: 4 Dec 1996 23:23:57 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <58516d$fq5@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Is there a NEXTSTEP/Openstep driver for the C&T 65548 video chipset found in the NEC Versa 2400 notebook series? Thanks for any information that you can provide. ... John -- John Nicol School of Audiology and Speech Sciences University of British Columbia Electronic mail: jsn@audiospeech.ubc.ca (NeXTmail welcome)
From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Date: 7 Dec 1996 21:07:08 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> In article <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu>, Jay <jthomas@pluto.njcc.com> wrote: >Anyone bought from them? Testamonials? Yes, I've been a customer of them. And I most strongly recommend DST for their professional, honest, and fast services. I bought a Mono Turbo slab from them not so long ago. Shannon Edwards, whom I talked to and answered my email questions, is a knowledgable and courteous guy. And when I received my big box, I couldn't believe how much time and energy they put into wrapping up my slab: monitor, mouse, keyboard, and slab are individually protected by at least 2 inches of blister wrap and then everything is floated in a thick sea of peanuts. I've never seen any workstation maker take such meticulous care of their new systems, let alone used ones. Trust me, it's something you've got to see to believe. A week later, when I tried to use the floppy drive for the first time, I found that it's broken. (Not kicking out the floppies.) So I emailed Shannon, asking whether it can be replaced. My replacement floppy arrived in a week via UPS ground! It should be said that you can sometimes find better prices on c.s.n.m than those at DeepSpace. But if you are comparing vendors with the same price, I'd recommend DeepSpace. Sure I'm not going to buy a $25 modem cable from them since I can get it from Mac Warehouse/Cables to Go for much less. But for something more delicate, like a monitor, I'd definitely get it from DST unless I can find it locally. There you have it. liuyi "Just another happy customer" -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@anet-dfw.com> | <liuyi@usa.net> Dallas, TX
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep 4.0 mach runs great on Cyrix 6x86 P166+ (mostly) Date: 8 Dec 1996 03:00:14 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Message-ID: <58davu$lm2@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <581the$2h96@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5873gm$iei@news3.texas.net> <589tdd$j6i@news.wco.com> In-Reply-To: <589tdd$j6i@news.wco.com> On 12/06/96, Mike Paquette wrote: >mrbill@texas.net (Bill Bradford) wrote: > > >A number of other users have reported problems with the Tyan >motherboards in these newsgroups. I'm starting to think that these >belong on the 'cool ideas to be avoided' list. Is anyone using them >successfully (no lockups, freezes, mystery panics) ? > I had been using a Tyan's 486 EISA motherboard to run NeXTSTEP for 3 years without any problem. There were only <10 crashes as I could remember, and I almost kept the machine on all day. Now I am using a Tyan Tomcat I (512K PB Cache) board and an Intel P5-166MHz CPU (I upgraded my machine a month ago.) So far I am very satisfied with my new toy. It is very fast and very stable (I am using OmniWeb 2.1.5.) Also, the best news for me is, finally, my Sony monitor will go into sleep mode after a period of idle time. > > Mike Paquette >-- >I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. >mpaque@wco.com >mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please > > -- ---------------- Yuwen Cheng University of Arizona, Math yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Date: 07 Dec 1996 21:25:56 -0800 Organization: DataSphere Sender: mycroft@chrome.datasphere.net Message-ID: <x7ohg5bo9n.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> I too have bought from DeepSpaceTech, and they have been reliable, courteous, and honest. I would reccomend buying from Shannon any day. He was extremely helpfull, and my machine arrived in flawless "better-then-new" condition, and everything was well packed, and worked as stated. .mycroft -- [:]====================================================================[:] [\] Mycroft <mycroft@datasphere.net> >>>>>[DataSphere]<<<<< [=] [=] Key fingerprint = DD B1 A7 D9 2D DF A0 F7 23 C2 6B EC 5A AD 01 A9 [\] [:]====================================================================[:]
From: icesoft@semi.com.tw (icesoft) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Global Semiconductor Datasheets Library Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 08:39:03 GMT Organization: DCI HiNet Message-ID: <32aa7e91.2176148@netnews.hinet.net> Hi Everybody: If you want to look up the semiconductor datasheets. Now we support the internet online semiconductor datasheets library. The Library includes more than 23,121 datasheets . All datasheets are saved in PDF format. Welcome you to visit our web site. Global Semiconductor Datasheets Library http://www.semi.com.tw
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware From: mattj@invisix.com Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Message-ID: <c87cc$2272a.260@news.goldengate.net> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 08:39:42 GMT References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> jthomas@pluto.njcc.com (Jay) wrote: >Anyone bought from them? Testamonials? > >TIA. > I purchased a 13W3-BNC adapter and a station floppy drive on two seperate ocassions and didn't have any problems. I would recommend them from what I've experienced so far. -- MATT | mailto:mattj@invisix.com NeXTMail Ok jurcich | http://www.invisix.com Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 24MB, 250MB, NEC XP21, NEXTSTEP 3.2 Novell Netware 3.12-10 Server, 486DX2-66, 240MB, 8MB
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Cube w/ 2*040boards & Dimensionsboard & some internet acces questions Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E1y7Cu.JF7@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 16:05:18 GMT References: <rr-0412961911590001@ztm04-04.dial.xs4all.nl> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <rr-0412961911590001@ztm04-04.dial.xs4all.nl>, rr <rr@xs4all.nl> wrote: >Hi there, > >I've just purchased a NeXTCube. It came with 2 68040 boards and a NeXT >Dimensionsboard and some more stuff like a modem, cd-rom aso. >Unfortunately, no manuals...but I'm managing, barely. >First question:from the faq I learned that it is possible to have 2 boards >inside the Cube. In this particular case it was a 68030 board and a 68040. >I was wondering if anybody has tried 2 040's ( and the Dimensions- board >in there too) and how they did it, what their experience is aso. You should be fine. However, you should pull the NBIC (NeXTbus Interface Chip) from the '040 board that you *don't* want to display its screen on the Dimension. The NBIC is the socketed ASIC near the NeXTbus connector. I'll defer to to others on the rest. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: scp@sonia.math.ucla.edu (S. Port) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Date: 5 Dec 1996 07:10:43 GMT Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department Distribution: world Message-ID: <585shj$21si@uni.library.ucla.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961202103456.5718H-100000@kira> <582tst$1u0@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5849d3$79o@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> As an alternative to a UPS you might consider a device called a Power Wedge. I installed one in 1992 - just before UPSes became affordable. Power Wedge is a hi end audio line conditioner intended for use on hi end stereo equipment. I'm pretty fanatical about saving so I'm personally not worried about losing unsaved work. Furthermore, I don't leave my machine running when I'm not home - its a standalone ND system with two monitors. and several external SCSI devices. The specs on the device are equivalent or better than most UPSes. It has six outlets, two of which are digital specific - they detect when a digital device is plugged into it. All devices run nearly silently, hard disks run at higher pitch (meaning faster). I'm totally satisfied. I paid $219 in '92, I think they're $199 now. Reseller is Audio Adviser - 800-942-0220. Charlie Dvorak cdvorak@pepperdine.edu
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ATI Mach64 problems Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 11:35:02 +0100 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <32A553D6.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <57fctt$grm@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> <581mi3$pn9@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mmalcolm crawford wrote: > > On 11/26/96, David Bruce wrote: > > I have an ATI Mach64 card while my Matrox is being sent back to the mfgr. > > When booting it complains about (from /usr/adm/messages): > > I/O Ports: Couldn't reserve range 000062ec-000062ef > > Configuredriver: Could not allocate resources for class ati > > and complains about IOProbeDriver not finding something (this flys by as > > the system boots...probably the driver but it seems to be there from my > > perspective). It then registers good ol' b&w VGA. > > I've got the latest ATI driver, 3.37 and the card works fine in w95. > > That's the problem ! The new driver includes new features and new bugs ! I had similar problems with ATI cards and version 3.37 or whatever is included on OS4.0 CD. I had luck with the earlier version 3.34 (i guess). Stefan -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Whining NeXT Monitor Message-ID: <E23JrH.4I8@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <clp5-0712960237150001@cu-dialup-1008.cit.cornell.edu> Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 13:21:16 GMT In article <clp5-0712960237150001@cu-dialup-1008.cit.cornell.edu> clp5@cornell.edu (Collin) writes: > I have a NeXTCube with a 4000a monitor which I just recently > shipped across the country. Somewhere between here and California > it developed a subtle high pitched whine. At first I thought > nothing of it because the monitor seems to work completely fine, > but lately the sound has been driving me insane especially if I > work late at night. Is there any sort of simple solution to > this? Has anyone encountered this? I'm looking for any possible > solutions...Thanks a lot...Collin > Sounds like a case of magnetostriction in the flyback transformer. Somehow the resin that used to seal the coil broke loose or something of that sort. Might be a cold solder joint cracked or something the like. IMHO, a case for a TV technician... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Message-ID: <cdoutyE24CG7.F42@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> <x7ohg5bo9n.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 23:40:55 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom10.netcom.com I'll third (or fourth) that motion. I bought a Turbo Color from Shannon Edwards/Deepspace and have been very happy with it. The boxes well well padded, everything came through in the right order, and the service was great. As long as we're giving testimonials on NeXT resellers, I'll say that I bought a TurboCube CPU board from Sam Goldberg (Spherical Solutions) with no fuss. As with all dealers, YMMV. -Chris Douty --- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: jthomas@pluto.njcc.com (Jay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Changing the SCSI ID? Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 22:54:02 -0600 Organization: Jay, Inc. Message-ID: <jthomas-0812962254020001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> Question: is it possible to run a Nextstation at a SCSI ID other than 7? I'm thinking it might be 'cause people run multiple next motherboards in the same box so..... TIA.
From: darkon@netins.net (Tehrasha Darkon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 01:27:25 -0600 Organization: Darkon Industries Message-ID: <darkon-ya023580000912960127250001@news.netins.net> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu>, liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) wrote: >In article <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu>, >Jay <jthomas@pluto.njcc.com> wrote: > > >And when I received my big box, I couldn't believe how much time and >energy they put into wrapping up my slab: monitor, mouse, keyboard, >and slab are individually protected by at least 2 inches of blister >wrap and then everything is floated in a thick sea of peanuts. I've >never seen any workstation maker take such meticulous care of their >new systems, let alone used ones. Trust me, it's something you've got >to see to believe. I agree. When i got my slab from them, i think it took longer to unbox and unwrap it than it did to setup and start. :") My only complaint would be that the post-it note on the CPU that had the new root password was not correct and I had to hack the root. Not a big problem in my book. I also ordered 16M of simms from them for the slab a bit later. I installed them and they didnt show up in the system check. I reseated them and tried again. This time the self test said that they were 16M simms and that they were bad. I removed them and notcied that on 2 of the simms there were chip pins that had been pushed off their pads. Wether they were like this when i got them or -i- did it when i removed them the first time is a sticky point. Its possible that I did it but none of the old 1M simms i removed show the same extraction markings as these. I did not call DST, i just did some micro surgery with a soldering iron. All is well. Slab and memory are fine. I would still recommend them and intend to continue ordering from them. -- D -------------------------------------------------------------------- A darkon@netins.net | CU-SeeMe TX/RX | FurryMUCK Furtoonia R Tehrasha Darkon | 840av MotPower 28 | #furry #macintosh K -------------------------------------------------------------------- O Resident INS Furry and Official Relaxed Dragon of #furry N Member of the silliest IRC network known - YiffNet
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Mono -- Ram?? Date: 8 Dec 1996 07:56:21 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development Message-ID: <58dsb5$4ab@alice.turbocat.de> References: <32A794A0.55D8@ritchie.acomp.usf.edu> Craig Christophel <cchristo@ritchie.acomp.usf.edu> wrote: >I am planningon upgrading my mono 68040 and I was wondering what type of >ram would be needed for this system. > > >the board has : > 8 30 pin slots > 1 72 pin slot The 72 pin slot is for special DSP memory. Don't try to put normal RAM in it. SIMM group size: 4 SIMM type: 30-pin low profile SIMM access rating: 100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9) You should buy only 4 MB SIMMS. They can be faster than 100 ns but it does not matter. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.de (NeXTMail,MIME)
From: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any trouble using Matrox Millenium?? Date: Mon, 09 Dec 96 10:54:44 Organization: Lockheed Martin Federal Systems in Manassas, VA, USA Message-ID: <58gnlg$on6@news.manassas.ibm.com> References: <57ujsh$kl0@news.manassas.ibm.com> <584g42$gsf@news.tuwien.ac.at> Ha! Exact the behavior of my card. I have also approx. the double hor. frequency. Good Sony Monitor... I suggest it is a miss programed driver. (Why runs everything so fine under windows with the bundled drivers for windows?) I am interested if half a year later the solution comes... Henry
From: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any trouble using Matrox Millenium?? Date: Mon, 09 Dec 96 11:07:04 Organization: Lockheed Martin Federal Systems in Manassas, VA, USA Message-ID: <58gock$on6@news.manassas.ibm.com> References: <57ujsh$kl0@news.manassas.ibm.com> <584g42$gsf@news.tuwien.ac.at> <585drk$sg5@nntp1.best.com> <588m5g$9oa@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Hi! It has something to do with a "cold start". In my case I can force this behavior of the card simply in turning of the PC for 5 minutes and switch it on again. Then You get it.. If I do the same procedure with ~1 minute delay the system comes up. Also if the first boot procedure fails. I have had any trouble booting first windows in hires. All is fine! The problem *is* the NeXT-Step driver, not the card. I suggest that some register are undefined when You supply the card with current. I think Matrox gave some specs for the chips which are not satisfied. Matrox seems to know this problem because their own drivers for windows run perfect. I think it is simply solved by writing the default values of the registers again in the chips. Nobody knows... NeXT-Answer too. Henry
From: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any trouble using Matrox Millenium?? Date: Mon, 09 Dec 96 11:27:51 Organization: Lockheed Martin Federal Systems in Manassas, VA, USA Message-ID: <58gpjk$on6@news.manassas.ibm.com> References: <57ujsh$kl0@news.manassas.ibm.com> <584g42$gsf@news.tuwien.ac.at> <585drk$sg5@nntp1.best.com> <588m5g$9oa@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> <32A86EA3.10BA@eng.sun.com> Hmm. I don't know if Your PLL-Story is the background of the malfunctioning. I would think You are right to 5-10%. There are a lot of facts Your wrote, where I have different practical results. I also tested the card with lowres 640x480 under NeXT-Step with the same strange behavior. Double horz.freq.. So it has nothing to do with the resolution. Other practical result, why goes everything so fine under windows with the original drivers with a res. of 1280x1024???. I do the boot procedure since half a year, first windows than NeXT-Step, approx. 4 times the week. So in ~100 boot procedures with windows first, the initialisation fo the card *never* fails. The 100 is more conserative. I am also not sure if any PLL exists for the ground frequence. When I am right, I found a 220MHZ crystal on the card. This frequence is fixed. So the PLL can only be used for the divider chain not for the base frequency, this makes me wonder why in this case things goes so strange. TI-Chips like the TMS34010 have a high input clock frequence and *no* PLL. You simply write values in the clock dividers to produce the horz. and vert. syncs. Henry
From: Russell Petersen <russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 10:40:53 -0700 Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <32AC4F25.15DA@valhalla.fc.hp.com> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <c87cc$2272a.260@news.goldengate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mattj@invisix.com wrote: > > jthomas@pluto.njcc.com (Jay) wrote: > >Anyone bought from them? Testamonials? > > > >TIA. > > > Do they have a website? Does any Next hardware reseller? What is their phone number if not? Russell J. Petersen ***** ***** VLSI Design Engineer *** /_ __ *** Hewlett Packard ICBD ** / / /_/ ** 3404 E. Harmony Rd. *** / *** Phone: (970) 229-7007 Ft. Collins, CO 80525 ***** ***** fax: (970) 229-6580 email: russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com All opinions are my own, of course, and reflect nothing about HP.
From: Greg Davis Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Date: 9 Dec 1996 18:28:20 GMT Organization: Shentel Message-ID: <58hlo4$9rb@head.globalcom.net> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> Cc: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu In <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> Yi Liu wrote: > It should be said that you can sometimes find better prices on c.s.n.m > than those at DeepSpace. But if you are comparing vendors with the > same price, I'd recommend DeepSpace. Sure I'm not going to buy a $25 > modem cable from them since I can get it from Mac Warehouse/Cables to > Go for much less. But for something more delicate, like a monitor, > I'd definitely get it from DST unless I can find it locally. > > There you have it. > > liuyi > "Just another happy customer" > If you buy one of the cheapo Mac modem cables, you will a n unhappy camper. The pin outouts for the 040 NeXTStations are NOT the same as a MAC, and therefore will not work, even though the connectors are the same. If you are going to praise Shannon for being hons=est and dependable, you shoukl buy the proper cable from him for 25 bucks! My $.02 Gregor
From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Date: 9 Dec 1996 14:03:28 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <58hrag$2dk@bobby.cs.utexas.edu> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> <58hlo4$9rb@head.globalcom.net> In article <58hlo4$9rb@head.globalcom.net>, <gdavis@shentel.net> wrote: [liuyi@cs.utexas.edu wrote...] >> same price, I'd recommend DeepSpace. Sure I'm not going to buy a $25 >> modem cable from them since I can get it from Mac Warehouse/Cables to >> Go for much less. But for something more delicate, like a monitor, >> I'd definitely get it from DST unless I can find it locally. >> > [gdavis@shentel.net replied] > > If you buy one of the cheapo Mac modem cables, you will a n unhappy > camper. The pin outouts for the 040 NeXTStations are NOT the same > as a MAC, and therefore will not work, even though the connectors > are the same. If you are going to praise Shannon for being hons=est > and dependable, you shoukl buy the proper cable from him for 25 > bucks! > > My $.02 > > Gregor Gregor, I might have missed your point here, but I have a hard time trying to link professional honesty/dependability and profit margin together. Why can't you provide better services at higher prices? And compared with the occasional "dumping" of NeXT hardware in this group by other vendors, DeepSpace _is_ such a vendor. (Although DST's prices are competitive, they are not rock bottom. I'm just exaggerating the price difference for the sake of argument here.) That said, I should confess that I've yet to make the modem cable I bought from the cheapo Mac places work. I'm still relying on my Linux box and home network for my NeXTs' internet access. I don't have enough time to figure out what exactly the problem is, but I always thought it was my fault. So, please NeXT gurus, what's the verdict? --- Does Mac modem cable work? Are there any positive experiences? I believe I've read in c.s.n.* that they work while being aware of the warning in the FAQ. FWIW, if the mac modem cable doesn't work, I will buy it from DeepSpace. liuyi "Now, if only Shannon had a referral discount..." -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@anet-dfw.com> | <liuyi@usa.net> Dallas, TX
From: ajeanes@spiff.carleton.ca (Andrew Jeanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Date: 9 Dec 1996 20:07:17 GMT Organization: Sandanista Horde Inc. Message-ID: <58hrhl$13t@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <c87cc$2272a.260@news.goldengate.net> <32AC4F25.15DA@valhalla.fc.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-User: ajeanes In article <32AC4F25.15DA@valhalla.fc.hp.com>, Russell Petersen <russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com> wrote: >mattj@invisix.com wrote: >> >> jthomas@pluto.njcc.com (Jay) wrote: >> >Anyone bought from them? Testamonials? >> > >> >TIA. >> > >> > >Do they have a website? Does any Next hardware reseller? <http://www.deepspacetech.com/> Also, <http://www.dancingbear.com/> And (my favourite[1]), <http://www.computeractive.com/> There are others out there too. I'd say you'd be hard pressed to find a NeXT reseller *without* a web presence. Try a search engine with the keywords you would expect. They're not too hard to find. Andrew "URLs to the stars" Jeanes [1] Probably because they pay me. -- career, n. spell of rapid progression; course through life. v.i. go swiftly or wildly. _The Little Oxford Dictionary_ ajeanes@consecol.org -o- http://www.consecol.org/People/ajeanes
From: yono@parokinet.org (Suryono Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 9 Dec 1996 22:21:24 GMT Organization: ParokiNet - Indonesian Catholics Online Message-ID: <58i3d4$36t@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> <58hlo4$9rb@head.globalcom.net> <58hrag$2dk@bobby.cs.utexas.edu> Yi Liu (liuyi@cs.utexas.edu) wrote: : So, please NeXT gurus, what's the verdict? --- Does Mac modem cable : work? Are there any positive experiences? I believe I've read in : c.s.n.* that they work while being aware of the warning in the FAQ. I use a Mac cable that I got from a local BestBuy on a 030 Cube (Serial port A) to a Practical Peripheral 144FXSA with no problem. Set to 38400 hardware handshake setup. FWIW, Yono -- yono@parokinet.org paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu
From: Jim_Brownfield@Radical.Com (Jim Brownfield) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Date: 10 Dec 1996 00:01:40 GMT Organization: Radical System Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <58i994$i7a@radical1.radical.com> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> <58hlo4$9rb@head.globalcom.net> <58hrag$2dk@bobby.cs.utexas.edu> Cc: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu In <58hrag$2dk@bobby.cs.utexas.edu> Yi Liu wrote: > So, please NeXT gurus, what's the verdict? --- Does Mac modem cable > work? Are there any positive experiences? I believe I've read in > c.s.n.* that they work while being aware of the warning in the FAQ. Basically, an unmodified Mac modem cable will ONLY work on a 68030 on serial port A. It will not work on any of the other black hardware. For more information, you can view Radical Solution (TM) #6, "NeXT Serial / Modem Cables", at <http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution6.html>. -- Jim Brownfield (Jim_Brownfield@Radical.Com) NeXTmail/MIME accepted Radical System Solutions, Inc. (http://www.radical.com/) System/Network/Database Design, Development, Consulting rad i cal \'rad-i-kel\ n -- a basic principle: FOUNDATION
From: mpd@gulf.net (Mark Pappas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTStation - Low Level SCSI Format Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 20:23:19 -0500 Organization: Mark Pappas Development Message-ID: <mpd-ya023180000912962023190001@news.gulf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm trying to do a low level format on a Maxtor MXT-540S. I have it set to SCSI ID 6. I type the command: sdform /dev/sd6 no luck..... What am I doing wrong? Its sd2, target #6. I have tried the above command several different ways. I have had some errors and the folks at Maxtor said I needed to low level format the drive. -- Thanks Mark Pappas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Pappas Development E-mail: mpd@gulf.net Consultant http://www.gulf.net/~mpd/ 3915 Lynn Ora Dr. Phone: (904) 476-3773 Pensacola, FL 32504 Specializing in Macintosh Databases & NMI's Microbrew
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Date: 10 Dec 1996 02:04:50 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-0912961802220001@mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> <58hlo4$9rb@head.globalcom.net> <58hrag$2dk@bobby.cs.utexas.edu> >So, please NeXT gurus, what's the verdict? --- Does Mac modem cable >work? Are there any positive experiences? I believe I've read in >c.s.n.* that they work while being aware of the warning in the FAQ. It will not work. You must either build your own, which I did, or buy one. Type "man zs" to see what the proper pinouts should be... They will work if you turn off hardware handshaking and are willing to plug along at no more than 9600 baud... Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Date: 10 Dec 1996 03:12:59 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <58ikfr$fig@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> <58hlo4$9rb@head.globalcom.net> <58hrag$2dk@bobby.cs.utexas.edu> <58i3d4$36t@news1-alterdial.uu.net> yono@parokinet.org (Suryono Adisoemarta) wrote: > I use a Mac cable that I got from a local BestBuy on a 030 Cube (Serial port A) > to a Practical Peripheral 144FXSA with no problem. The serial ports on 030 Cubes don't support hardware flow control, so a Mac cable should work. > Set to 38400 hardware handshake setup. Hmmm. Never heard of an 030 Cube whose serial ports would run reliably above 9600 due to the lack of hardware flow control. Are you sure that someone hasn't popped in an 040 CPU board? -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware From: mattj@invisix.com Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Message-ID: <c97cc$1637e.a6@news.goldengate.net> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 04:55:14 GMT References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> <58hlo4$9rb@head.globalcom.net> <58hrag$2dk@bobby.cs.utexas.edu> <58i3d4$36t@news1-alterdial.uu.net> yono@parokinet.org (Suryono Adisoemarta) wrote: >Yi Liu (liuyi@cs.utexas.edu) wrote: > >: So, please NeXT gurus, what's the verdict? --- Does Mac modem cable >: work? Are there any positive experiences? I believe I've read in >: c.s.n.* that they work while being aware of the warning in the FAQ. > >I use a Mac cable that I got from a local BestBuy on a 030 Cube (Serial port A) >to a Practical Peripheral 144FXSA with no problem. >Set to 38400 hardware handshake setup. > >FWIW, > >Yono >-- >yono@parokinet.org >paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu > > > Same setup confirmed here, but with slab. -- MATT | mailto:mattj@invisix.com NeXTMail Ok jurcich | http://www.invisix.com Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 24MB, 250MB, NEC XP21, NEXTSTEP 3.2 Novell Netware 3.12-10 Server, 486DX2-66, 240MB, 8MB
From: Mark Adler <mark.adler@quest.jpl.nasa.gov> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Date: 10 Dec 1996 07:14:10 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA Message-ID: <58j2k2$ecn@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> <58hlo4$9rb@head.globalcom.net> <58hrag$2dk@bobby.cs.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu In <58hrag$2dk@bobby.cs.utexas.edu> Yi Liu wrote: # So, please NeXT gurus, what's the verdict? --- Does Mac modem cable # work? No, the wiring for flow control is unique to the NeXT, so a Mac cable will not work with /dev/cuf*. (Note that you also have to tell the modem to use RTS/CTS for flow control.) You can make your own cable using this from the zs.4 man page: NeXT 68040 to Modem Cable Mini-Din RS-232 1 (DTR) 20 (DTR) 2 (DCD) 8 (DCD) 3 (TXD) 2 (TXD) 4 (GND) 7 (GND) 5 (RXD) 3 (RXD) 6 (RTS) 4 (RTS) 8 (CTS) 5 (CTS) or just buy one from Deepspace or whomever. mark
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next BW monitor: Can it be switched off? Date: 10 Dec 1996 13:20:08 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <58jo28$1ag6@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <329EEB2F.4955@austria.ds.philips.com> <E1uK5w.3px@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: > In article <329EEB2F.4955@austria.ds.philips.com>, > Stefan Holzinger <sholzing@austria.ds.philips.com> wrote: > >Is it as simple as installing a switch turning off +12V and > >-12V for the CRT PCB or would this turn off the communication > >board, too - confusing the system? > A while ago it was decided that there's no reliable way to turn off the > monitor. Yes. But it there was also a thread on how a cube can be run headless, by making various changes in the Rom monitor and /etc/ttys, and creating a little piece of hardware that simulates the power key. I'm not sure whether that would work with a station, too. You probably need to use a power resistor to replace the monitors power surge. Send me personal email (cut off the "nospam") if you need the article. If there's enough demand, I'll repost, otherwise I'll just mail it out. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: eriko@majestic.austin.ibm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Date: 10 Dec 1996 09:55:02 -0600 Organization: IBM Austin Message-ID: <x6lob6tmw9.fsf@majestic.austin.ibm.com> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> <58hlo4$9rb@head.globalcom.net> <58hrag$2dk@bobby.cs.utexas.edu> <58i3d4$36t@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <c97cc$1637e.a6@news.goldengate.net> mattj@invisix.com writes: [snip various NeXT configuration's using Mac modem cables successfully] Ditto. I have an 040 Cube using a Mac modem cable, works great at 38400. I think the catch is, you need to purchase a Mac _High Speed_ modem cable, which is marketing speak for "all the wires are in the cable that should have been there in the first place". YMMV. regards ejo -- Erik O'Shaughnessy - SPEC/Technical Performance - eriko@austin.ibm.com Disclaimer: You know the drill.. all opinions are mine.. blah blah blah. (512) 838-2622 Cogito Ergo Disclaimum T/L 678-2622
From: Russell Petersen <russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next interface rules Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 09:38:18 -0700 Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <32AD91FA.2BC9@valhalla.fc.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just set up the beautiful color cube last night of my brothers that I am getting ready to sell and marveled again at the greatness of the Next interface. Even though the basic design of that computer is what? 8yrs old? it still blows away any look and feel on the market that I have seen. I just wish I could upgrade my HP workstation to that interface. Not possible though from what I understand without replacing the OS, or have I heard wrong? Anyways, once I figure out all that is on the Color Cube I will post it for bids. It does work great however and I just wish that I could keep it for myself. :) -- Russell J. Petersen ***** ***** VLSI Design Engineer *** /_ __ *** Hewlett Packard ICBD ** / / /_/ ** 3404 E. Harmony Rd. *** / *** Phone: (970) 229-7007 Ft. Collins, CO 80525 ***** ***** fax: (970) 229-6580 email: russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com All opinions are my own, of course, and reflect nothing about HP.
From: joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What are these Black boxes? Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:51:00 GMT Organization: Internet QuickLink, Corp Message-ID: <58k4k2$cqo@news.quicklink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What are these Black boxes? I just got a bunch of NEXTstations. Model# N1100 RAM 16mb keyboard and mouse 17" MegaPixelDisplay What to do with them? I boot them up and they ask for username and password. How do I get around this or at lest start fresh. Do I need to install a new OS, How? Does anyone want them? What are they worth.. I will give one whole system away to anyone who can help me make use of them. Any info would be helpful. Thanks Joel@quicklink.com
From: joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What are these Black boxes? Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 16:51:48 GMT Organization: Internet QuickLink, Corp Message-ID: <58k4li$cqo@news.quicklink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What are these Black boxes? I just got a bunch of NEXTstations. Model# N1100 RAM 16mb keyboard and mouse 17" MegaPixelDisplay What to do with them? I boot them up and they ask for username and password. How do I get around this or at lest start fresh. Do I need to install a new OS, How? Does anyone want them? What are they worth.. Any info would be helpful. Thanks Joel@quicklink.com
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStation - Low Level SCSI Format Date: 10 Dec 1996 17:35:24 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <58k70s$8av@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <mpd-ya023180000912962023190001@news.gulf.net> mpd@gulf.net (Mark Pappas) wrote: >I'm trying to do a low level format on a Maxtor MXT-540S. I have it set to >SCSI ID 6. I type the command: > >sdform /dev/sd6 > >no luck..... What am I doing wrong? Its sd2, target #6. I have tried the >above command several different ways. I have had some errors and the folks >at Maxtor said I needed to low level format the drive. > >-- >Thanks >Mark Pappas I don't know the history of your installation, but normally it is not necessary to use sdform in order to initialize a disk. Use BuildDisk.app or the standard initialization available in Workspace. If the disk is not damaged and is properly connected (ie, good SCSI ID, termination, etc.) it will be recognized by Workspace when you log in as being unformatted. It will then prompt you to format it. It is possible to use disk (prefered over sdform), but you should have a thorough understanding of them (read man pages carefully) before attempting to use them. FYI, the SCSI ID you set on the device is not the same as the device number. The device number is assigned based on the ordering of the SCSI ID numbers. Say you have 4 SCSI devices, ID #'s: 1, 3, 4 and 6. Their device numbers will be 0, 1, 2 and 3 respectively (ie, sd0, sd1, etc.). Hope this helps. --Ryan
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: EZFlyer 230 upgrade program finally available! Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961210121633.1646A-100000@charisma.peak.org> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 12:30:24 -0500 cc: dg628@freenet.carleton.ca, pbrown@math.berkeley.edu, swb@mercury.campbell-mithun.com, TBROWN1727@worldnet.att.net, bradf95@acd.tusk.edu, dwy@mcny.com, Mpwa@ccnet.com, docman@evansville.net, jsamson@istar.ca Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, about 3 months after I first started calling SyQuest about this, we finally have an official notice: http://www.syquest.com/syquest/trdup230.htm Highlights: - Send any removable cartridge drive (including tape, ZIP, MO, CD/ROMs or Bernoulli), to SyQuest. These drives do not need to work - SyQuest will automatically give you a $99 credit towards the purchase of any EZFlyer 230 (available in three different configurations: Parallel Port, MAC or PC SCSI). You will be charged initially $200 (plus sales tax where applicable and a $6.00 handling fee). If your replacement drive is not received within 30 days your credit card will be billed an additional $99 plus sales tax at that point. - This offer cannot be used with any other SyQuest promotion. [ ie the $55 refund at http://www.syquest.com/syquest/promoez.htm ] So you are basically getting $45 more by sending back any drive considering you could get $55 just with the silly little coupon at their site. I suppose if I had some old broken drive it would be worth it to get something for it. It isn't worth it, to me, to send them my EZ135. Oh well. Just wanted to pass it along TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Deepspacetech? Date: 10 Dec 1996 17:31:21 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-1012960928550001@mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net> References: <jthomas-0712961830380001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> <58hlo4$9rb@head.globalcom.net> <58hrag$2dk@bobby.cs.utexas.edu> <58i3d4$36t@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <c97cc$1637e.a6@news.goldengate.net> <x6lob6tmw9.fsf@majestic.austin.ibm.com> >Ditto. I have an 040 Cube using a Mac modem cable, works great at 38400. >I think the catch is, you need to purchase a Mac _High Speed_ modem cable, >which is marketing speak for "all the wires are in the cable that should >have been there in the first place". This should NOT work. I have MANY high speed mac cables and modems, and they do not work properly on the next... Joel PS - FYI Dancing Bear is getting out of the NeXT business. | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cardbus support From: shill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) Message-ID: <32adc7cd.0@cisun2000.unil.ch> Date: 10 Dec 96 20:27:57 GMT Does anyone know if NeXT is planning Cardbus support in the somewhat near future? Thanks Sean shill@iphysiol.unil.ch
From: clp5@cornell.edu (Collin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Floppies in Cubes Date: Tue, 10 Dec 1996 17:29:14 -0400 Organization: Cornell University Sender: clp5@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <clp5-1012961729140001@cu-dialup-0807.cit.cornell.edu> I just purchased a NeXTComputer which has been upgraded to an '040 NeXTCube. It has an OD and a 340MB HD. What I was wondering is if I could put a NeXT 2.88 Floppy in this machine. I've seen a "NeXT Floppy Drive for slab" availiable from places like Deepspacetech and I was wondering if I could install this in my NeXT. I haven't opened the cube (haven't picked up the tool yet) but I've heard there is enough space in there even with the HD. So is this all possible? ...Collin PS - Anyone know where I can get the cube/floppy face plate.
From: jmosher@think.com (Jessica Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: modem cable? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 10 Dec 1996 22:48:03 GMT Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Bedford MA, USA Sender: jmosher@think.com Distribution: usa Message-ID: <58kpb3$lug@bone.think.com> References: <58dbcs$9s7@oink.cs.utexas.edu> <x7ohg5bo9n.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> <cdoutyE24CG7.F42@netcom.com> NeXT modem cables can be bought from various sources for something like $10. At least, that's what I paid for mine. I did use a mac one, not w a cuf*, for plain vt100 connections at 9600 baud or below for a while, though. I have an 040 cube. As for Dancing Bear..SAY IT AIN'T SO!! They've been _wonderful_. but, if true, are they having any sort of hardware blowout sale? Or software, for that matter? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Thinking Machines Corporation Systems Support Engineer c/o American Express
From: d.cosmo@altanet.it (Cosmdo01) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Atari portfolio Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 00:33:27 GMT Organization: altanet.it Message-ID: <58kvkc$qiq@dante.italia.com> Dear Portfolio friend, i hope you can answer me: Can I change the ram cipset in my portfolio for more internal ram ? Where I found a serial port for my portfolio ? If yes How ? Can you send me material about portfolio big write? Have you the ATARI PORTFOLIO's electric map ? I LOVE PORTFOLIO and I wount all material about it I hope you answer me soon. A Friend Donato Cosmo d.cosmo@altanet.it
From: mercer@BLaCKSMITH.com (Quinten Mercer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: disktab for Seagate ST12400N Date: 6 Dec 1996 19:05:27 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <589qpn$2ak@BLaCKSMITH.com> I am looking for the disktab for a Seagate ST12400N drive? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Quinten Mercer NeXTSTEP Systems Administrator BLaCKSMITH inc. | | Quinten_Mercer@BLaCKSMITH.com 703-847-8180 | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Floppies in Cubes Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E28CqD.F6s@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 03:37:24 GMT References: <clp5-1012961729140001@cu-dialup-0807.cit.cornell.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <clp5-1012961729140001@cu-dialup-0807.cit.cornell.edu>, Collin <clp5@cornell.edu> wrote: >I just purchased a NeXTComputer which has been upgraded to an '040 >NeXTCube. It has an OD and a 340MB HD. What I was wondering is if I >could put a NeXT 2.88 Floppy in this machine. If the internal hard disk is full-height (and the original ones were), then you can't have the OD, the floppy, and the HD in there. Plus, installing the floppy will require a different faceplate on the front of the cube. You may be able to get one of these from someone, though. The floppy will plug in and work, though, so you can hang it out the back if you want. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: looking for suggestions: UPS for NeXTStation Followup-To: alt.dev.null Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 15:45:42 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <58mm2j$j8e@news.wco.com> References: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961202103456.5718H-100000@kira> <582tst$1u0@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5849d3$79o@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <585shj$21si@uni.library.ucla.edu> some poor sod wrote: >The specs on the device are equivalent or >better than most UPSes. It has six outlets, >two of which are digital specific - they >detect when a digital device is plugged >into it. Magic? The Illuminati encoding thetan engrams on the plugs? How on earth do they do this? (The line side of a power supply looks pretty much the same whether it's powering vacuum tubes or gate arrays.) >All devices run nearly silently, hard disks >run at higher pitch (meaning faster). I'm >totally satisfied. Hard disks running FASTER? Like the platter has a higher angular velocity? Man, the data seperators ain't gonna like this. They sort of expect the angular velocity to be constant, as part of the drive geometry and overall tuning. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me.
From: lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (Sean La Shell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: network trouble Date: 11 Dec 1996 16:09:05 GMT Organization: Default Usenet Organization Distribution: brandeis Message-ID: <58mmb1$jnc@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> Our network is being upgraded from a thin wire network to a ten base t network. The technician got a converter box so that our cube can talk to the ten base t network. The converter box works fine on other computers, but not on the cube. Everything SEEMS to be okay, but mail gets delayed and you can't always telnet INTO the machine. (Can telnet OUT fine.) We've tried 2 different brands of converter boxes and neither seems to work. Any words of wisdom? Thanks in advance! Sean La Shell lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu
From: edx@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep 4.0 mach runs great on Cyrix 6x86 P166+ (mostly) Message-ID: <1996Dec11.093455.90470@cc.usu.edu> Date: 11 Dec 96 09:34:55 MDT References: <581the$2h96@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5873gm$iei@news3.texas.net> <58davu$lm2@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Organization: Utah State University mrbill@texas.net (Bill Bradford) wrote: > >A number of other users have reported problems with the Tyan >motherboards in these newsgroups. I'm starting to think that these >belong on the 'cool ideas to be avoided' list. Is anyone using them >successfully (no lockups, freezes, mystery panics) ? > > NS 3.3 installation on a Tyan Titan III P-166 went as smooth as silk for me a year ago. Perforance has been solid as a rock, just like my old cube but much, much faster. I was very impressed, since I had heard various horror stories about PC's, and I was anticipating the worst. Tyan makes nice, fast boards. - HRC -
From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep on ThinkPad 760? Date: 11 Dec 1996 18:37:46 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <58mv1q$acj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Does anyone have any experience with OpenStep on an IBM ThinkPad 760? Caveats, problems, raves...anything? Thanks, gdm
From: jthomas@pluto.njcc.com (Jay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <jthomas-1112961014280001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> Control: cancel <jthomas-1112961014280001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 11:01:14 -0600 Organization: Jay, Inc. Message-ID: <jthomas-1112961101140001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu> cancel <jthomas-1112961014280001@hh-bob66.csh.uiuc.edu>
From: Russell Petersen <russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Becoming root on Next Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:20:36 -0700 Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <32AF0984.6F33@valhalla.fc.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, I asked and got several suggestions on how to become root on a Next where the root password was lost. All involved getting into the ROM monitor and then doing one of the following: 1) When you get to the "NeXT" prompt, type bsd-s 2) Type "b sd -s" 3) bsd -s 4) boot bsd -s I tried all of these and none of them seemed to work. The machine just hung (as far as I could tell anyways - disk was not running) and I had to power off. I am running NS 3.0 on the 040 cube. Which is the correct form of the command above and how long should it take to respond after entering it? Thanks for any help you can give me. -- Russell J. Petersen ***** ***** VLSI Design Engineer *** /_ __ *** Hewlett Packard ICBD ** / / /_/ ** 3404 E. Harmony Rd. *** / *** Phone: (970) 229-7007 Ft. Collins, CO 80525 ***** ***** fax: (970) 229-6580 email: russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com All opinions are my own, of course, and reflect nothing about HP.
From: hamel@unixg.ubc.ca (Dr. Keith A. Hamel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI Mach64 in Plug and Play Date: 11 Dec 1996 22:06:07 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <58nb8f$6bn@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> I have a Plug and Play Pentium with an ATI Mach64 2MByte DRAM video card. I cannot get NeXTStep to recognize the card (with the 3.37 ATIMach64 Driver). I get the message: "ATI BIOS not found" during bootup. Is it possible to configure the card so that it will work? or do I need to use a different video card?
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From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Becoming root on Next Date: 12 Dec 1996 00:05:43 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-1112961603160001@mfs-annex1-p32.dsphere.net> References: <32AF0984.6F33@valhalla.fc.hp.com> There is a bit more to the command. "boot sd (0,0,1) -s" I think. Basically, you have to identify WHICH scsi device you want to boot from. Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: Greg <gregs@gold-link.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP Toner Cartridges Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 20:14:43 -0500 Organization: Gold-Link Communications, Inc Message-ID: <32AF5C83.2891@gold-link.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="tonercartridges.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="tonercartridges.txt" We are the ultimate in toner cartridge service. We carry all brands for copy machines and laser printers including Xerox All Canon copiers. Hewlett Packard, Okidata, Sharp, Epson,Lexmark We have- rebuilt or new. Or we can recharge your old cartridges. Rebuilt cartridges are top of the line. Inkjet & Bubblejet cartridge refill kits. We also stock ribbons. 1OO % fully guaranteed. Call 9O8-245-1579. E-mail inquiries are accepted also. Please include phone number.
From: schulhof@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: test Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 17:53:04 Message-ID: <58nohs$bap@news1-alterdial.uu.net> this is only a test, john do you see this.
From: Someone <Someone@home.thinking.about.you.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Your GOD Loves You - YES YOU! Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:57:37 PST Organization: GTE Intelligent Network Services, GTE INS Message-ID: <1212199602573784576765625371Someone@home.thinking.about.you.com> I hope that you know your GOD loves you, no matter what GOD you believe in. Thank your GOD for life and ask your GOD to let you live as your GOD would want you to. When we look closely at GOD we begin to realize that we all believe in the same GOD, we may see GOD in different ways, but GOD will always be GOD. There can only be one GOD, and that one GOD loves us all, and wants nothing but the best for us. If your in doubt, just remember GOD works in mysterious ways, there is a reason for everything... God thank you. Someone
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Subject: MO 640 Fujitsu Message-ID: <E2977I.A7@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 14:35:41 GMT Hello, anybody out there, who uses such a drive with Intel? I ve just tried it, but the drive became not recognized?!? What to do? Any special jumpersettings? thanks for help Manfred
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From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Becoming root on Next Date: 11 Dec 96 17:01:20 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.96Dec11170120@slave.one.net> References: <32AF0984.6F33@valhalla.fc.hp.com> In-reply-to: Russell Petersen's message of Wed, 11 Dec 1996 12:20:36 -0700 In article <32AF0984.6F33@valhalla.fc.hp.com>, Russell Petersen <russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com> writes: Ok, I asked and got several suggestions on how to become root on a Next where the root password was lost. All involved getting into the ROM monitor and then doing one of the following: 1) When you get to the "NeXT" prompt, type bsd-s I do this all the time. Did it just a couple minutes ago, in fact. So it works. I'm not certain how it works if you have a hardware password, though. [Does it ask for the password, or does it just hang as described? Anyone?] What _may_ happen is that you may have some sort of oddball boot command set up in your preferences. At the monitor, type 'p' and then use enter to get through the questions, which will leave them all the same, and review the output. Perhaps you have to use some other stuff with your boot command to find the disk or something of the sort. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: Dean Reece <dean.reece@eng.sun.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: using EISA driver with ISA card Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:17:08 -0800 Organization: JavaSoft Message-ID: <32B0AE94.78BA@eng.sun.com> References: <58q54m$aab@news.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, This won't work. The driver that supports GD-543x maps a linear framebuffer (1, 2 or 4MB). An ISA card can only address the bottom 16MB of system address space, and as such you would have to be running with less that 16MB of system RAM to avoid a conflict. VL-Bus, EISA and PCI cards have access to the entire 4GB address space, and so are not restricted. This was one of the primary reasons for developing VL-Bus in the first place (fast access to the entire 32bit address space). If you want to use an ISA display adapter, you will be limited to VGA. Or, you can use a GD-542x or ET-4000 based adapter in segmented mode. Both these chipsets are obsolete, and using a segmented framebuffer hurts performance drastically. I'm not sure about compatibility between the two generations of Cirrus chips, but you *might* be able to get your card to work with the GD-542x driver - of course, it would operate in segmented mode, but its worth a shot. -Dean Stephen Johnson wrote: > > Does anyone have any experience using an EISA video driver with an ISA > card? Should it work? > I have a Diamond SpeedStar64, Cirrus GD-5434 chipset. I see the driver > for this chipset but it does not include ISA as a supported bus, > although it does list EISA, so I'm trying to verify it's useability > before I open the new card. > > blessings, > > Stephen Johnson
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From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems upgrading to 192MB RAM (P6SNE) Date: 13 Dec 1996 16:33:00 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <58s0fs$8r1@nntp1.best.com> References: <58rgnf$1h7@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In-Reply-To: <58rgnf$1h7@nntp.Stanford.EDU> On 12/12/96, Steve Rennich wrote: > >I have a PPro 200 with a Supermicro P6SNE running NS 3.3 with 64MB RAM >(32MB x 2) that has been working flawlessly for months. I originally >purchased the P6SNE because it had six simm slots which would permit >easier memory expansion. > >When I install another four 32MB cards - for a total of 192MB, the memory >passes the initial memory tests and it is recognized by the BIOS and NS >(workspace info panel), but the system RUNS VERY SLOWLY!!! At least ten >times slower than normal. The machine is absolutely useless. Even window >dragging is an effort. > >When I remove two of the simms - leaving four 32MB simms (128 total) - the >system again runs just fine. Are you running the OmniPentiumPro driver? It used to cause exactly this problem if you had an amount of memory installed that was not a power of 2. The latest version of the driver (0.8 I think?) from www.omnigroup.com apparently solves this. - Chris --
From: rennich@leland.stanford.edu (Steve Rennich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems upgrading to 192MB RAM (P6SNE) Date: 13 Dec 1996 12:03:59 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: ba Message-ID: <58rgnf$1h7@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I have a PPro 200 with a Supermicro P6SNE running NS 3.3 with 64MB RAM (32MB x 2) that has been working flawlessly for months. I originally purchased the P6SNE because it had six simm slots which would permit easier memory expansion. When I install another four 32MB cards - for a total of 192MB, the memory passes the initial memory tests and it is recognized by the BIOS and NS (workspace info panel), but the system RUNS VERY SLOWLY!!! At least ten times slower than normal. The machine is absolutely useless. Even window dragging is an effort. When I remove two of the simms - leaving four 32MB simms (128 total) - the system again runs just fine. Supermicro claims that the board can support 768MB. Anybody have any idea what the problem could be? I've read the BIOS books but that seems fine. In fact, things dont start slowing down untill after the `booting process bar graph'. That seems to work fine. But then the screen turns blue and the login panel takes forever to appear. Any help is greatly appreciated Thanks Steve rennich@leland.stanford.edu
From: lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (Sean La Shell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: more network trouble Date: 13 Dec 1996 16:06:36 GMT Organization: Default Usenet Organization Distribution: brandeis Message-ID: <58ruuc$mpm@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> I recently posted a question about using a converter box so the NeXt can connect to a 10 base t network anyway as someone pointed out there is a 10 base t connection on the cube that we have but, I am still having a problem it seems that when I am connected to the thin net which is connected at the back end of a Cisco router everything works ok now down stream from the router we have added a 3 Com link switch 1000 and if I try to connect the cube or any of our two other next machines after the switch I start having problems of not being able to telnet into the machine and slow running mail I have, run the following tests when telnet didn't work I tried to ping the machine from and outside our network machine and it wouldn't ping (all packets lost) then I tried pinging by a machine inside the network and the first request timed out and all after that worked ok then after about an hour or so it all happens again. So, my question is has anyone out there ran into this kind of problem using a link switch and if so how would one go about getting things to work? Thanks in advance, Matt
From: wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Video image grabbing for NeXTStep? Date: 13 Dec 1996 17:29:04 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <58s3p0$42u@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Does anybody have a board+driver for Intel hardware running NeXTStep that allows video images to be captured onto a frame buffer? William Clocksin Computer Laboratory Cambridge University
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstation - Adding RAM Date: 13 Dec 1996 22:31:43 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-1312961429170001@mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net> I had my NeXT apart one day, and found that I couldn't remove the RAM. I have been contemplating moving this thing up to 20 or 32 MB, but don't have any idea how to get the current memory out. Help anyone? Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Summary: Toshiba Tecra 720 and Deskstation V Plus Date: 14 Dec 1996 00:47:18 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Distribution: world Message-ID: <58stem$p10@news.doit.wisc.edu> Since several people asked, here's a brief summary of my experiences thus far with a Toshiba Tecra 720CDT and Deskstation V Plus docking station. Overall the combination is great and working well under NextStep with only a few hitches. Here are some notes: 1. The Tecra's video performance is a bit slow. Because of that the NXFactor is only around 1.0, which is slow for a Pentium 133 with PCI. 2. The video driver (in 1024x768) from BioFrost has worked great under 3.3, 4.0, and 4.1 (thanks BioFrost!) 3. The built in SCSI on the DeskStation seems to be supported by the AMD/PCI SCSI driver on NextAnswers (the driver recognizes the controller, but I haven't tried plugging a SCSI device in yet) 4. The EISABus in the DeskStation works fine - I have an ethernet card in there. I haven't tested the PCI, except for seeing that the PCI SCSI controller gets recognized. 5. I was having troubles getting my PCMCIA Xircom ethernet card to work right when the machine was plugged into the docking station. The problem went away when I changed the IRQ of the card from 10 to 11. So there's probably something built into the DeskStation that conflicts with IRQ 10 for some reason. 6. The only thing I can't seem to get working on the docking station are the two additional PCMCIA ports - when I put a card in there NeXTStep seems to ignore it entirely. However, this isn't a problem for me because I only have one pcmcia card and it works fine in the built-in slots in the computer. 7. The modem and sound work great, except I can't get it to record. That's all for now. -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://www.barbarian.com
Message-ID: <32B1D641.25A1@nmaa.org> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:18:41 -0800 From: Daniel Fahey <dansources@nmaa.org> Organization: DanSources Technical Services Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.,announce,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.lang.objective-c Subject: Corba and Next Developers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HELLO CORBA and NEXT Developers: We are seeking a bunch of contract C++, Corba, Object Oriented and OpenStep Developers for a large and long telecommunications program located in the Washington, DC. area. Our client is developing most of their systems in OpenStep and merging the legacy systems with C++ and CORBA compliance. There are Senior to Junior Developer positions with as little as one year NEXT or CORBA experience. Training is available for those who need to upgrade to OpenStep. If you are interested, please email your resume. The best way to send is to Attach as a Word or Wordperfect file, or just Paste it to the Email. If your know any friends please pass this information to them. We have a excellent team of people and the customer is cool to work with. This project is hot and we need good people. Thank you for your time and patience. Sincerely, Dan Fahey
From: Ben Konjkav <ben@photonweb.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 17" to PC 15-pin VGA adapter. Pointers? Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:14:00 -0800 Organization: PCG Message-ID: <32B19CE8.592@photonweb.com> References: <32a3be30.4757622@snews2.zippo.com> <5825ue$24j@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank M. Siegert wrote: > > In <32a3be30.4757622@snews2.zippo.com> Mike Sorensen wrote: > > I have a nice lookin 17" monitor here for a NeXT color workstation and > > have heard that I can get an adapter to hook it up to PC's. > > > > Can anyone refer me to a supplier? > > > > This task is hard than it seems... the NeXT monitors is fixed frequency - > only 1172 x 892 in 68 Hz and need the sync (h/v) mixed in the green signal. > > Better get a nice multisync and sell the NeXT screen to a NeXT, Sun or HP > user. > > -- > * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net > * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy Check out http://www.photonweb.com/next/ for the video card & the cable that has been designed to run your monitor on a PC Ben
From: Ben Konjkav <ben@photonweb.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 17" to PC 15-pin VGA adapter. Pointers? Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:57:37 -0800 Organization: PCG Message-ID: <32B19911.42C9@photonweb.com> References: <32a3be30.4757622@snews2.zippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Sorensen wrote: > > I have a nice lookin 17" monitor here for a NeXT color workstation and > have heard that I can get an adapter to hook it up to PC's. > > Can anyone refer me to a supplier? > > Thanks. Check out http://www.photonweb.com/next/ for the video card & the cable that has been designed to run your monitor on a PC Ben
From: YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Video image grabbing for NeXTStep? Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 04:55:55 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32B1B4BD.3DC@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <58s3p0$42u@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit William Clocksin wrote: > > Does anybody have a board+driver for Intel hardware running NeXTStep that > allows video images to be captured onto a frame buffer? Check out following website. http://www.ipc.de/information/products/index.html YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP News written by Korean)
From: jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help -- initializing an IBM DFMS on black Date: 14 Dec 1996 05:08:07 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <58tcnn$sik@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> I am having trouble initializing my new IBM DFMSS2F (2.1 gig) drive on my 040 (non-turbo) cube. The electrical connections are all fine. And I followed the procedure Steve Boker described for setting the ASPDE bit on SCSI page0. (His drive is a DFHS series instead of a DFMS, but my page0 looked just like his -- and, anyway, setting this bit reduced the error messages to a trickle.) But I still get the following error on my console whenever I try either disk or BuildDisk: Boot sector extends past front porch [or something poetic like that] Bad magic number At this point I can only think of two things to try: 1) Include an explicit disktab entry (specifying, perhaps, a larger front porch -- whatever exactly that is); and/or 2) Low-level format the drive with sdform (or sdformat). But before risking either of those, I thought I'd ask my elders and betters if any of then know what I should REALLY do. Do you? Thanks, John Haugeland haugelan+@pitt.edu
From: J.Penning@t-online.de (Jörg Penning) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sound Problem Date: 13 Dec 1996 11:44:20 GMT Organization: Telekom Online Internet Gateway Message-ID: <58rfik$tbk@news00.btx.dtag.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi folks, I'm running NSfIP 3.3 and just bought a CreativeLabs Soundblaster 32 plug-and-play card (ISA). What I had in mind was downward compatibility to Soundblaster 16. What didn't came up my mind was that it seems not to run, when this plug-and-play-stuff had no chance to initialize the card, as it is under Nextstep. What to do? Whine? Buy some older card? Any other suggestions? Thanks, Joerg. -- Jörg Penning email j.penning@t-online.de
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Strange Megapixel Mono Display Problems Date: 14 Dec 1996 05:36:23 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <58tecn$6km@news.istar.ca> I'm having some troubles with the monochrome monitor of my aging NeXTstation (it's now six years old). No, it's not the dimming problem. First, the image is warping. Instead of a scanline running horizontally across the screen, it makes a wave. It's kind of like a severe pincushion distortion problem. Second, the image jitters--if you look closely at the screen you can see the picture wobbling. It makes me seasick! Anyway, has anyone else had these problems or have any ideas for solution? -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -=- jsamson@istar.ca -=- NeXTmail & MIME welcome -============- http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul/ -=============- -===================================================================-
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Modem cables was Re: Deepspacetech? Date: 13 Dec 1996 22:48:09 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <58smf9$2mk@news.tamu.edu> Re: Deepspacetech? by mattj@invisix.com on 12/09/96 yono@parokinet.org (Suryono Adisoemarta) wrote: >Yi Liu (liuyi@cs.utexas.edu) wrote: > >: So, please NeXT gurus, what's the verdict? --- Does Mac modem cable >: work? Are there any positive experiences? I believe I've read in >: c.s.n.* that they work while being aware of the warning in the FAQ. > >I use a Mac cable that I got from a local BestBuy on a 030 Cube (Serial port A) >to a Practical Peripheral 144FXSA with no problem. >Set to 38400 hardware handshake setup. > >FWIW, > >Yono >-- >yono@parokinet.org >paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu > > > > Same setup confirmed here, but with slab. > > -- > MATT | mailto:mattj@invisix.com NeXTMail Ok snip Are these Mac modem cables being used for ppp or just dump terminal connections? It will work for just terminal connections but not ppp, which has to have the hardware flow control. Stephen Johnson sjohnson@myriad.net
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: using EISA driver with ISA card Date: 13 Dec 1996 22:32:25 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <58slhp$1ji@news.tamu.edu> References: <58q54m$aab@news.tamu.edu> <32B0AE94.78BA@eng.sun.com> In-Reply-To: <32B0AE94.78BA@eng.sun.com> On 12/12/96, Dean Reece wrote: >Sorry, > >This won't work. The driver that supports GD-543x maps a linear >framebuffer (1, 2 or 4MB). An ISA card can only address the bottom 16MB >of system address space, and as such you would have to be running with >less that 16MB of system RAM to avoid a conflict. > >VL-Bus, EISA and PCI cards have access to the entire 4GB address space, >and so are not restricted. This was one of the primary reasons for >developing VL-Bus in the first place (fast access to the entire 32bit >address space). > >If you want to use an ISA display adapter, you will be limited to VGA. >Or, you can use a GD-542x or ET-4000 based adapter in segmented mode. >Both these chipsets are obsolete, and using a segmented framebuffer >hurts performance drastically. I'm not sure about compatibility between >the two generations of Cirrus chips, but you *might* be able to get your >card to work with the GD-542x driver - of course, it would operate in >segmented mode, but its worth a shot. > > -Dean > I tried these drivers but they didn't work. What do you mean segmented mode? I didn't see any kind of options for this. It seems with basic VGA, there would at least be some color or am I missing how to do that? Stephen Johnson stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu
From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Strange Megapixel Mono Display Problems Date: 14 Dec 1996 01:47:25 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <58tm2d$9e4@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> References: <58tecn$6km@news.istar.ca> Summary: Mono Megapixel Distorted Image [Posted and Mailed] Jean-Paul C. Samson <jsamson@istar.ca> wrote: > I'm having some troubles with the monochrome monitor of my aging > NeXTstation (it's now six years old). No, it's not the dimming > problem. First, the image is warping. Instead of a scanline running > horizontally across the screen, it makes a wave. It's kind of like a > severe pincushion distortion problem. Second, the image jitters--if > you look closely at the screen you can see the picture wobbling. It > makes me seasick! I have the same image warping (horizontal and vertical pincushioning?) problem on my N4000A of the same vintage. It does not have the wobbling image problem, yet. (My other mono monitor does not have these problems. It's also a N4000A, made in 1992.) I've read the section in the FAQ on adjusting Megapixel monitors and have tried all the tricks listed there. From my limited experience, the wobbling problem is probably easier to fix than the warping --- I have not yet found a way to fix the distortion. Jean-Paul, if you are game, you will need these tools: 1. Allen wrench of various sizes, to remove the plastic cover from the back of the monitor. 2. A set of _plastic_ screw drivers. (I bought mine at local Radio Shack for $3, called "ColorTV Adjustment Tools", or something similar.) I don't know if Radio Shack is in Canada or not. Do NOT, for your and your Megapixel's sake, use any metal screw drivers as a substitute for #2 above. You can easily fry yourself, your monitor, or both. As a former physics student shocked dozens of times, let me tell you: it's a very very unpleasant experience. So, do yourself and your loved ones (including Megapixel) a favor, get #2 before you do anything. Then read the FAQ, and follow to the letter the instructions on how to open up and adjust the monitor. Whatever you do, don't touch anything inside after you've open the monitor. Now, for your wobbling image, the best guess I have is to adjust the "horizontal hold", which is the 3rd or 4th dial on the your left, standing behind the monitor. Twist it gently in both directions, see if it gets better. That's all I know about it. *whew* For the warping problem, I need help myself. I've tried almost all the dials in the back, no luck. (Except "dynamic focus") My detached opinion: it's dying. To verify this, check your phone bill: if you find a few mysterious long distance calls to the same phone number in Michigan, start looking for a replacement monitor. Megapixel has already hooked up with Dr. Kervorkian and its days are numbered. Trust me, they know themselves better than we do. Good luck and have a _fireworks free_ Xmas! liuyi Disclaimer: Although Canadians are known to be of gentler temperament than their neighor in the South, on the advise of my brain, to protect myself, my wife, and our worldly belongings (read: machines + books), I'd like to stress that I have never been certified to give advise of any kind by any human organization. The information given in this post is intended for the entertainment of consenting adults only. No one should even think of attempting these exercises without getting a life policy first. And last but not the least, don't bother to sue me, just take our books and computers. You don't want my car, trust me. Nor my credit cards either, for that matter. -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@anet-dfw.com> | <liuyi@usa.net> Dallas, TX
From: dbrinker@american.edu (Denise Brinker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT turbostations and Apache Date: 13 Dec 1996 21:44:15 GMT Organization: American University, Washington DC Message-ID: <58sinf$95b$1@paladin.american.edu> Keywords: NeXT, Web, Apache American University, School of Communication has 15 webservers available for sale @ $600 each plus c.o.d. shipping. SPECS: NeXTstation Turbo 33 hz 68040 processor 16 MB RAM 240 MB HD monochrome postscript display NeXTSTEP 3.3 Apache 1.1 installed CONTACT: Denise Brinker School of Communication American University dbrinker@american.edu -- Denise Brinker Mgr. Academic Computing School of Communication Washington, DC 20016 dbrinker@american.edu (NeXTMail and MIME OK) http://www.soc.american.edu
From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Becoming root on Next Date: 13 Dec 1996 18:59:08 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Message-ID: <58s91s$isa@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> References: <32AF0984.6F33@valhalla.fc.hp.com> <joel-1112961603160001@mfs-annex1-p32.dsphere.net> In article <joel-1112961603160001@mfs-annex1-p32.dsphere.net>, joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) writes: |> There is a bit more to the command. |> |> "boot sd (0,0,1) -s" I think. |> |> Basically, you have to identify WHICH scsi device you want to boot |> from. |> |> Joel |> |> | Joel Lingenfelter |> -=+=- |> | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be |> | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a I don't believe that you MUST identify the boot device. If you want to boot up from the default in single-user mode, just type: b sd -s (note: it's been awhile, so I think this is correct but...) -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com
From: Ones-And-Zeros@Prodigy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ! MASS POST Was Here (wqkwcz) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 96 12:31:41 GMT Organization: Ones And Zeros, Corp. Message-ID: <58u6nf$7a1m@usenet1w.prodigy.net> MASS POST, by Ones And Zeros, will let you post to as many newsgroups as you want! To find out more about this exciting new program, visit a business newsgroup. (This ad was sent to thousands of newsgroups!) (gviils)
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: using EISA driver with ISA card Date: 12 Dec 1996 23:40:06 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <58q54m$aab@news.tamu.edu> Does anyone have any experience using an EISA video driver with an ISA card? Should it work? I have a Diamond SpeedStar64, Cirrus GD-5434 chipset. I see the driver for this chipset but it does not include ISA as a supported bus, although it does list EISA, so I'm trying to verify it's useability before I open the new card. blessings, Stephen Johnson
From: Ones-And-Zeros@Prodigy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Ones And Zeros, Corp. Message-ID: <cancel.58u6nf$7a1m@usenet1w.prodigy.net> Control: cancel <58u6nf$7a1m@usenet1w.prodigy.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <58u6nf$7a1m@usenet1w.prodigy.net> Date: 14 Dec 1996 19:52:51 GMT Spam deleted
From: Brian Sutherland <rmaniac@onramp.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ! MASS POST Was Here (wqkwcz) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 13:56:00 -0600 Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <32B30650.5B5E@onramp.net> References: <58u6nf$7a1m@usenet1w.prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Ones-And-Zeros@Prodigy.net Ones-And-Zeros@Prodigy.net wrote: > > MASS POST, by Ones And Zeros, will let you post to as many newsgroups as you > want! > > To find out more about this exciting new program, visit a business newsgroup. > > (This ad was sent to thousands of newsgroups!) > > (gviils) Just what the internet needs. A real easy way to send scams and trash to 1000's of newsgroup. Thanx alot guys I hope you go bankrupt or get sued. -Brian ---------------- I am so sick of this thrash.
From: dg131@ciao.cc.columbia.edu (Douglas Geers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help? I'm trying to upgrade Date: 14 Dec 1996 20:27:50 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <58v2k6$jg3$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Hi. I have experience as a user of Next machines, but haven't done much system work on them. Now a acquaintance of mine wants me to upgrade his machine for him: Add a SCSI HD, add RAM, and (if possible) CPU upgrade. GENERAL INFO: His machine is an 030 cube which he purchased circa 1989, I believe. The only alterations he has made to the system is the addition of one SCSI disk, a 2-gig one. OK, now for my questions: HARD DISK: He has already purchased a 4 gig disk to add (he is doing music composition on the machine and needs alot of space.) I tried to add this using the Next sys admin GUI tools, but I couldn't figure out how to make it format the disk as 2 2-gig disks (since as far as I know that's the most the OS will recognize.) Any advice? RAM: He only has the factory RAM--Is this 8 meg or 16? Anyway, I think the machine will go up to 32meg--is this correct? What kind of SIMMS do I need to buy? Are there any tricky things I should know about installing them? I want to his machine to have the maximum amount of RAM. Also, he is complaining about his soundediting program, Edsnd, being awfully slow. Can I upgrade the DSP RAM?? If so, what do I need & what is the maximum amount of RAM for that? CPU: Is it possible to do a CPU upgrade for an old cube? Where do I go to get more info? What will I have to pay? How much faster will it go? Thank you all incredibly for any and all advice/help you can give me, and feel free to mail replies directly to me at geersde@woof.music.columbia. edu. --Doug Geers
Control: cancel <58u6nf$7a1m@usenet1w.prodigy.net> From: Ones-And-Zeros@Prodigy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <58u6nf$7a1m@usenet1w.prodigy.net> Message-ID: <Can_58u6nf$7a1m@usenet1w.prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 14 Dec 96 12:31:41 GMT Commercial SPAM Questions to news@prodigy.com
From: Scott Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATI Mach64 in Plug and Play Date: 14 Dec 1996 22:05:26 GMT Organization: BCOG Message-ID: <58v8b6$a20@news.bctel.net> References: <58nb8f$6bn@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> hamel@unixg.ubc.ca (Dr. Keith A. Hamel) wrote: >I have a Plug and Play Pentium with an ATI Mach64 2MByte DRAM video card. >I cannot get NeXTStep to recognize the card (with the 3.37 ATIMach64 >Driver). I get the message: "ATI BIOS not found" during bootup. Is it >possible to configure the card so that it will work? or do I need to use a >different video card? Yes, you will need a different video card. I had the same problem...the card would only function in b/w 640 x 480 mode.. Its amazing that NEXT has not fixed the bug in this driver for the popular ATI card. I traded it in for a Diamond Stealth which works fine.
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help -- initializing an IBM DFMS on black Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 01:55:53 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <58vlrr$c9t@news.wco.com> References: <58tcnn$sik@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) wrote: >I am having trouble initializing my new IBM DFMSS2F (2.1 gig) drive on my >040 (non-turbo) cube. The electrical connections are all fine. And I >followed the procedure Steve Boker described for setting the ASPDE bit >on SCSI page0. (His drive is a DFHS series instead of a DFMS, but my >page0 looked just like his -- and, anyway, setting this bit reduced the >error messages to a trickle.) But I still get the following error on >my console whenever I try either disk or BuildDisk: >Boot sector extends past front porch [or something poetic like that] >Bad magic number If you're running NS 3.2 or earlier, you'll need an entry in /etc/disktab for disks of 2 Gb or larger. Tim Luomat is running a website that has a collection of disktab entries for assorted disks. NS 3.3 and later has a somewhat better 'disk' program that will break disks of 2 Gb or larger into multiple partitions smaller than 2 Gbytes. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: David Green <david@legion.apana.org.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Q: Help using NS/I to connect PCs to 'net Date: 15 Dec 1996 02:05:36 GMT Organization: Australian Public Access Network Association Message-ID: <58vmdg$1r2$1@hock.apana.org.au> Organisation: Sargood Manor People, I am planning to network a couple of PCs (Windoze) to the outside world through my NS/I box. My link is PPP through a 28.8 modem. I have cabled the house for Ethernet and am about to purchase network cards. Questions: 1. Can I do this (i.e. Use the NS/I machine as a gateway-cum-router) ? 2. Would I be better off using an old PC as a router and hanging all three machines off it? If so, what are your recommendations? 3. I have a 486/66 machine with ISA-VL bus, NS/I 3.3 (patched), 64M RAM. What is the network card that offers the best comprimise between speed, reliablitiy and cost? I am tending towards either an ISA version of the 3Com card or just installing a NE2000 and hoping for the best. I would be grateful for any advice, assistance, tales-of-woe that you can offer. Oh yes, one more question ... is there any advantage to upgrading to OS 4.0/4.1 ? David. -- David Green | Tel: +61 3 9827-6283 | david@legion.apana.org.au Melbourne, Australia| Fax: +61 3 9827-5876 | (NeXTMail & MIME accepted) PGP key from: pgp-public-keys@sw.oz.au ----------------------------------------------------------------------- What opinions?
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Problem Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 07:09:33 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1996Dec15.070933.21108@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <58rfik$tbk@news00.btx.dtag.de> In article <58rfik$tbk@news00.btx.dtag.de> J.Penning@t-online.de (J rg Penning) writes: > I'm running NSfIP 3.3 and just bought a CreativeLabs > Soundblaster 32 plug-and-play card (ISA). What I had in mind > was downward compatibility to Soundblaster 16. What > didn't came up my mind was that it seems not to run, > when this plug-and-play-stuff had no chance to initialize > the card, as it is under Nextstep. What to do? Whine? > Buy some older card? Any other suggestions? Make sure you are using the latest drivers for both SB16 and EISA Bus. Try: enabling PnP in the Bus driver; if there is a jumper to disable PnP on the card, try that; or using a DOS utility (comes with the card) to disbale PnP. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help -- initializing an IBM DFMS on black Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 07:16:23 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1996Dec15.071623.21181@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <58tcnn$sik@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> In article <58tcnn$sik@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) writes: > Boot sector extends past front porch [or something poetic like that] > Bad magic number > > At this point I can only think of two things to try: > 1) Include an explicit disktab entry (specifying, perhaps, a larger > front porch -- whatever exactly that is); and/or There are several parameters that determine the boot sector and front porch size; if any of them are in conflict, that is what you get. There are also two different NeXTanswers that describe making a disktab entry, and the information they give conflicts in this area. They are: These are 1533 and 1849. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any PC floppies with autodetect? Date: 14 Dec 96 21:12:50 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: comp Message-ID: <SHESS.96Dec14211250@slave.one.net> Just a minor nit I have with PC floppy drives ... It's _sooo_ nice on my NeXTstation to just pop a disk in and have it go "Oh, hey, there's a disk, let's try to do something with it." Even better, if I can easily write short scripts to duplicate disks using dd and disk -e, and it prompts me for disks, _notices_ when I pop a disk in, and pops the disk out by itself when finished. Not that pushing the little button is _that_ bad, but it is annoying, especially as I tend to forget to push it until something weird happens (like my system trying to boot from a NeXT-format floppy :-). Are there any Intel-compatible systems which let you use a floppy which autodetects? Perhaps SCSI floppies (spendy)? Thanks, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems upgrading to 192MB RAM (P6SNE) Date: 14 Dec 96 21:33:30 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: ba Message-ID: <SHESS.96Dec14213330@slave.one.net> References: <58rgnf$1h7@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In-reply-to: rennich@leland.stanford.edu's message of 13 Dec 1996 12:03:59 GMT In article <58rgnf$1h7@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, rennich@leland.stanford.edu (Steve Rennich) writes: When I install another four 32MB cards - for a total of 192MB, the memory passes the initial memory tests and it is recognized by the BIOS and NS (workspace info panel), but the system RUNS VERY SLOWLY!!! At least ten times slower than normal. The machine is absolutely useless. Even window dragging is an effort. When I remove two of the simms - leaving four 32MB simms (128 total) - the system again runs just fine. Supermicro claims that the board can support 768MB. Do you have enough tag SRAM? Most HX boards that I've seen come with only enough to cache 128M of RAM. Go beyond that, and memory is not being cached. I'm not certain exactly _how_ this works (will 128M be cached, 64M not? All not? Random?), but it happens. Check your manual and see if you need to add the chip. If you have the ability to drop a chip on the motherboard, it should be obvious (it's the socket with no chip in it!). Otherwise, you might have to get a special type of COAST module which includes 256k cache plus the tag SRAM. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATI Mach64 in Plug and Play Date: 16 Dec 1996 15:34:04 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <593q5c$m9c@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <58v8b6$a20@news.bctel.net> In article <58v8b6$a20@news.bctel.net> Scott writes: > hamel@unixg.ubc.ca (Dr. Keith A. Hamel) wrote: > >I have a Plug and Play Pentium with an ATI Mach64 2MByte DRAM video card. > >I cannot get NeXTStep to recognize the card (with the 3.37 ATIMach64 > >Driver). I get the message: "ATI BIOS not found" during bootup. Is it > >possible to configure the card so that it will work? or do I need to use a > >different video card? >Its amazing that NEXT has not >fixed the bug in this driver for the popular ATI card. It's not NeXT's fault. ATI seems to use a different RAMDAC and/or BIOS every week for their cheaper DRAM card (the VRAM cards almost ALWAYS work fine). It seems these changes usually require a tweak of the driver. We had this problem once, and NeXT promptly updated the driver for us. But... with this in mind, we haven't purchased an ATI card since... -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Jochen Richter <jr@sade.schiele-ct.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems upgrading to 192MB RAM (P6SNE) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:07:28 +0100 Organization: S.a.d.e. Message-ID: <32B565B0.43AF@sade.schiele-ct.de> References: <58rgnf$1h7@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <58s0fs$8r1@nntp1.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Christopher Wolf wrote: > > On 12/12/96, Steve Rennich wrote: > > > >I have a PPro 200 with a Supermicro P6SNE running NS 3.3 with 64MB RAM > >(32MB x 2) that has been working flawlessly for months. I originally > >purchased the P6SNE because it had six simm slots which would permit > >easier memory expansion. > > > >When I install another four 32MB cards - for a total of 192MB, the memory > >passes the initial memory tests and it is recognized by the BIOS and NS > >(workspace info panel), but the system RUNS VERY SLOWLY!!! At least ten > >times slower than normal. The machine is absolutely useless. Even window > >dragging is an effort. > > > >When I remove two of the simms - leaving four 32MB simms (128 total) - the > >system again runs just fine. > > Are you running the OmniPentiumPro driver? It used to cause exactly this problem > if you had an amount of memory installed that was not a power of 2. The latest > version of the driver (0.8 I think?) from www.omnigroup.com apparently solves > this. > > - Chris > > -- True. I think from version 0.6b already. I have the P6SNE running with 192MB and it works flawlessly. Jochen Richter
From: Arman A Anwar <aanwar@osf1.gmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Newbe: needs info on connecting Modem ... ? Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 02:44:52 -0500 Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.961216024359.16962I-100000@osf1.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I just acquired a Next turbo .. is it possible to connect a PC type modem to it ?? Arman. -+-+ A r m a n .. A l i .. A n w a r +-+- +-+- -+-+ Center for Information Systems Integration and Evolution { aanwar@gmu.edu, http://isse.gmu.edu/~aaanwar, (703) 993-1632 } +-+- -+-+ -+-+ Know of an opening for a Patent Office Clerk? I'm looking for one +-+-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) Subject: Re: Problems upgrading to 192MB RAM (P6SNE) Message-ID: <1996Dec16.171525.2823@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <SHESS.96Dec14213330@slave.one.net> Distribution: ba Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 17:15:25 GMT Scott Hess writes > In article <58rgnf$1h7@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, > rennich@leland.stanford.edu (Steve Rennich) writes: > When I install another four 32MB cards - for a total of 192MB, the > memory passes the initial memory tests and it is recognized by the > BIOS and NS (workspace info panel), but the system RUNS VERY > SLOWLY!!! At least ten times slower than normal. The machine is > absolutely useless. Even window dragging is an effort. > > When I remove two of the simms - leaving four 32MB simms (128 > total) - the system again runs just fine. > > Supermicro claims that the board can support 768MB. > > Do you have enough tag SRAM? Most HX boards that I've seen come with > only enough to cache 128M of RAM. Go beyond that, and memory is not > being cached. I'm not certain exactly _how_ this works (will 128M be > cached, 64M not? All not? Random?), but it happens. > This is a Pentium-Pro motherboard so tag RAM isn't an issue. In getting this to work, the first thing to do is to make sure you have all of the same size (and brand if possible) SIMMS. For some strange reason, quite a few of Intel's PCI chipsets (for both Pentium and PPros) are very sensitive when it comes to not having all SIMMS exactly the same. When the SIMMS aren't all the same size and brand, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I have a SuperMicro P6DNF and have had it working with 4-32MB SIMMS and 2-16MB SIMMS from different manufacturers. However I have another set of 2-16MB SIMMS from a 3rd manufacturer that do not work in that same configuration. Since all of your SIMMS are 32MB, you might try replacing 2 of your current 32MB SIMMS with the new ones. If that works, try placing the old 32MB SIMMS in the 3rd bank where you were placing the new memory. Your best bet is just to experiment. There might be configuration that works properly. I don't really know who to blame for this problem. It seems like its Intel's fault, but I suppose its possible that there is a large enough variance in the memory available from different sources, that its a lack consistency that causes the problem. -- _______________________________________________________________ / Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \ | NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily | | Synectic Design | represent those of my employer | | ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. | \___________________________|___________________________________/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ernst@fritz.snafu.de (Ernst Kloecker) Subject: Re: tunefs, rotational latency, and write cache. Message-ID: <E2J0yJ.C0r@fritz.snafu.de> Sender: news@fritz.snafu.de Organization: Software Engineering References: <SHESS.96Dec15225624@howard.one.net> Distribution: comp Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 21:56:38 GMT In article <SHESS.96Dec15225624@howard.one.net>, shess@one.net (Scott Hess) wrote: >In any case, I noted some results which I can't quite reconcile with >reality. My disk (Seagate Hawk 2LP, ST31230N) has a 512k cache. Due >to this, I expected that my read performance would remain >approximately constant regardless of rotational latency. After all, >512k should be comfortably greater than the size of any given track. >I expected that the drive would be somewhat optimistic and read ahead, >so that later requests in that track would be ready more-or-less >immediately, regardless of the rotational delay. I'm observing >1.65MB/s top rate, well below the drive's internal transfer rate, even >being pessimistic with Seagate's numbers. > >Is this due to something internal? Or could I experiment (cautiously) >with the drive's cache page settings? > In my experience the SCSI interface of black hardware (NeXTstation or Cube, don't know about turbo) is really bad for throughput. I'd say any modern disk should outperform it, so I wouldn't bother fiddling with the drive's cache settings because the bottleneck is elsewhere. --- Ernst Kloecker ernst@fritz.snafu.de
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199612151946.OAA01770@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: f5e75ef1862c8373292d6aecf01940bb - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 96 14:45:44 -0500 Subject: Re: Help -- initializing an IBM DFMS on black Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: f5e75ef1862c8373292d6aecf01940bb - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Original Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 01:55:53 GMT > If you're running NS 3.2 or earlier, you'll need an entry in > /etc/disktab for disks of 2 Gb or larger. Tim Luomat is running a > website that has a collection of disktab entries for assorted > disks. [ My login name is "luomat". My last name is "Luoma". ] the page is actually hosted by David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> at http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ns-disktab/ it is linked to my NeXT web page. http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat
From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Trouble installing new disk on NeXTcube Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 16:59:56 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.961215163652.26248A-100000@saul7.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros Predicate: `"Did you eat something that did not agree with you?" asked John' I have a NeXTcube that wants its disk original 330 meg SCSI disk replaced. I am having zero luck getting the new disks to work with it, though. About a month ago, I had two spare Micropolis 1588s (Full height 660 meg SCSI-II disk), so I thought I'd use one of them. After a week of fiddling with jumpers, I got it to work -only- if I unplugged the external PLI floppy (the only other SCSI device at the time). As soon as I plugged the SuperFloppy back in, I would get 'Incomplete SCSI transfer' error messages spewed to the console. I used the pair to build a Solaris/x86 box. I gave up and went back to the original CDC 330 meg disk. In the meanwhile, I bought a GigaTrend external 4mm SCSI tape drive, which worked flawlessly with the NeXT, the CDC disk, and the SuperFloppy. Recently, I bought an IBM UltraStar ES for my Pentium (excellent drive, BTW) and decided to use one of the disks that was in the Pentium, a Seagate ST31200N (1" 1.2 GB Fast SCSI-II disk), with the NeXT. I set it all up, booted from the OD, and used BuildDisk on the hard disk. No go; I got about a million 'Media Error' messages. I fiddled with the jumpers some more, and finally got BuildDisk to run successfully, with only one or two media errors, by disabling SCSI bus parity checking. Everything was working fine as I was restoring all my data from tape and OD, and I only got one or two media errors (which made me slightly nervous, but everything else was looking all right) in the hour or two I was copying files. Then, suddenly, in the middle of copying the last of my data from OD, I get a console window full of media errors and a kernel panic. Restarted, and the disk is damaged to the point where I think I'm going to have to sdform it again. But it shouldn't have happened. How can I make this disk -work-? This is really frustrating. The original CDC disk was set up to provide its own terminator power, not provide terminator power to the bus, and not to generate bus parity checking, which is exactly how I have the ST31200N set up. This works: (term)(id0)CDC disk----(id7)NeXTcube----(id6)DAT----(id2)SuperFloppy(term) This doesn't: (term)(id1)ST31200N----(id7)NeXTcube----(id6)DAT----(id2)SuperFloppy(term) I don't get it. Help me. r. http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kjaeros -------------------------------------- [ e x l i b r i s ]
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Making installed drive into a boot disk Date: 17 Dec 1996 07:17:10 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961217071600.CAA01649@ladder01.news.aol.com> My brother-in-law gave me his cube--it has NS2.1 installed on a Maxtor 349 MB HD, and has a Toshiba 839 MB HD installed with two partitions, backup and backup_of_me (which is exactly what the two are). When I disconnect the Maxtor, the Toshiba drive seems to boot, but then hangs, apparently because it's confused about the absence of the Maxtor, and the fact that it's now drive 0 and not 1. Ideally, I would like to pull the smaller drive (leaving everything intact on it), get the Toshiba booting using 2.1, and then install 3.1 (my brother-in-law never upgraded to 3.0--I got 3.1 from Dancing Bear--Thanks Tim1). I've looked for BuildDisk.app, but it doesn't seem to be on the system drive (my brother-in-law pulled the Optical Disk when it quit working--the only way I can afford to get a backup is to set aside one of the hard drives). Similarly, there's no man entry for ditto--is this a 3.x thing? I'd prefer to set pull the smaller drive without installing 3.1 to it... I'm at a loss as to how to boot from the CD-ROM though--it simply doesn't work when I try it--the system hangs, no matter which SCSI ID I've set it to. I'd be very grateful of a step-by-step set of instructions which would walk me through this, or even a step-by-step set of pointers to man pages and manuals--I'm familiar with PCs and Macs, but how Unix handles disks and file systems has me stumped. I've looked through _The NeXT Book_ and _The Next Bible_, as well as _Inside Unix_ and the manuals. My apologies for the wasted bandwidth, and my sincere thank at any assistance. William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Drive performance tidbits Date: 15 Dec 96 10:37:42 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: comp Message-ID: <SHESS.96Dec15103742@howard.one.net> Recently, I replaced an older (louder, hotter, slower) 1G drive in my NeXTstation with a newer (quieter, cooler, faster) 1G drive. I figure this will be the drive this station rides to the grave, so I figured I might as well toy with tuning the installation. First thing I did was low-level reformat the drive using sdformat to 1024 byte sectors. Since NeXTSTEP's FFS uses 1024 byte fragments, nothing is lost - but since there's less low-level formatting overhead with 1024 byte sectors, some small amount of disk space was gained. [I observed about 5%, or 50M on this drive.] WARNING: don't you be doing this at home unless you are _certain_ that your drive can handle the format benignly, or are willing to make it into a doorstop. Some few drives out there, mainly from "second-tier" makers, take a format request with a different sector size than the factory format as license to trash your drive beyond usability. I can only vouch for Seagate drives (they follow your orders) and a DEC DSP drive (it stayed at 512-byte sectors and transparently "spoofed" the OS by talking in 1024-byte sectors). I also tried reformatting it to 2048-byte sectors. It booted fine, and gave another 3% of absolute space, but in the end the wastage from the larger fragment size offset the gain. I went back to 1024-byte sectors. [A "fragment" is the smallest unit of allocation in BSD FFS, so if you have a file of 1 byte with 1024-byte fragments, it wastes 1023 bytes. With 2048-byte fragments, it wastes 2047 bytes!] The next thing was to optimize my inode usage. I noticed that with the old 1G drive, I had about 250,000 inodes, and was only _using_ 50,000 of them. The new drive was somewhat larger, and ended up with 280,000 inodes. I wrote a short program to dump the information from getdiskbydev(3) as a disktab entry, and then adjusted things so that I had one inode per 8192 bytes instead of one per 4096. This gave me another free 15M. Hardly worth it, but since I was using a fresh drive anyhow ... you should _certainly_ not adjust the bytes/inode amount unless you know for a fact that you won't need them. If you run out of inodes, you simply cannot access the remaining disk space. Now I was ready to dupe the old disk onto the new. So long as I was there, though, I decided to optimize for rotational latency. FFS is smart enough to attempt to place adjacent blocks optimally so that they are seperated on the disk by enough space that by the next block is ready to be read/written, the system is ready to read/write it. Otherwise it would have to wait a complete rotation to get back to the block! I think that the system is smart enough to use the rm# parameter in /etc/disktab to determine the optimal latency for general read/write. At 3600RPM, it uses 4ms, at 5400RPM it should use 3ms, though I did not test this. Instead, I just wrote a script using tunefs and iozone to set various latency values and then test them. For this drive (at 5400RPM), I found that the best read performance was when the file was written with 0ms latency (1.66MB/s read, .62MB/s write), the best write performance was with 4ms latency (1.03MB/s read, 1.30MB/s write), and 3ms provided good performance for both (1.07MB/s read, 1.24MB/s write). [Do those numbers look odd to you? I suspect the disk's onboard cache made the write numbers look better than they really were.] How to use these numbers? Assuming that _most_ of the existing files on the disk were read-only, I set the latency for 0ms, and duped the old disk onto the new disk using dump/restore. This took a fair bit of time (if you haven't guessed, I built automated scripts for most of this stuff, and let them run overnight). Then I set the latency for 4ms, removed the new disk's /private/vm/swapfile, and used mkfile to re-create it. mkfile creates the entire file all at once, so all of the latency and whatnot parameters will be used, and it won't be spread _all_ over the disk. I used 4ms because I wanted the best _write_ speed - when swapping, you want things to write out as fast as possible. The read performance at that latency wasn't too bad, either. Lastly, I left the latency at 3ms, which seemed like a good compromise between write speed and read speed. Note that BuildDisk.app does all of this for you, but I'm not sure if the CD-ROM install does. So if you don't want to get "dirty", use BuildDisk. The main problem I found during the disk duplication was that I lost all my setuid bits. Hey! I used find to find files with any of the 7000 bits set, and then used gnutar to copy those over with the right setuid bits. Why didn't I use gnutar in the first place? Because it wasn't able to handle hardlinks to long filenames (it tried, but they were cut off at 128 bytes, and without the last part of the filename it couldn't make the link ... v1.09 and v1.11.2, both). I also tried afio (cpio clone that can handle 1023 byte paths), but it didn't handle the setuid bits right, either. Oh, well, you win some, you lose some. Notes: iozone, sdformat, and afio are out on the net. tunefs only works if you unmount the filesystem first, so you can't really tune your boot disk, unless you boot from some other disk. If you want more on FFS, I can't help but recommend "The Design and Implementation of BSD4.3 Unix". Quite the enjoyable book, _if_ you enjoy knowing how things work and why they work that way. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: kpc@enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Modem Cables, Mac v Next serial, etc Date: 16 Dec 1996 03:04:22 GMT Organization: diffwerks Message-ID: <kpc-1512962106540001@beelzebub-47.d.enteract.com> FWIW, and perhaps for clarity's sake... According the the Guide to the Macintosh Family Hardware (p.360), which covers a range of the 68K Mac models, that Macintosh hardware implements RS-422. The serial pin-outs on both Mac serial ports are thus: pin signal 1 DTR 2 CTS/TRC 3 TXD- 4 GND 5 RXD- 6 TXD+ 7 GPi/DCD 8 RXD+ The Technical Introduction to the Macintosh Family, 2nd ed., notes that all models "accept an input handshake signal (GPi) on their serial ports." (p.317). An empirical test of a hardware handshaking cable supplied with a "Mac" modem (e.g. bundled with MacOS fax software), indicates the following pin cross-connections: DIN-8 DB-25 -> which should rep 1 4 RTS 2 5 CTS 3 2 TXD 4 7 GND 5 3 RXD 6 - 7 - 8 7 GND I would welcome further sampling/observations. This doesn't necessarily apply to later DSP and/or PPC Mac machines (I think the Mac geoport may be somewhat different). Compare the above with man zs. -Kevin K e v i n C o f f e e / d i f f w e r k s <diffwerk@enteract.com> <kpc@enteract.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Strange Megapixel Mono Display Problems Message-ID: <E2H6I5.6Gq@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <58tecn$6km@news.istar.ca> Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:01:17 GMT In article <58tecn$6km@news.istar.ca> jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) writes: > I'm having some troubles with the monochrome monitor of my aging > NeXTstation (it's now six years old). No, it's not the dimming > problem. First, the image is warping. Instead of a scanline running > horizontally across the screen, it makes a wave. It's kind of like a > severe pincushion distortion problem. Second, the image jitters--if > you look closely at the screen you can see the picture wobbling. It > makes me seasick! > Nothing you can fix of your own, IMHO. A TV technician could probably fix it with an unusual amount of time, since there are no schematics or other technical documentation available. The situation might call for a replacement. Either get a used one or try to make the owners of Bell Atlantic really rich ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: rennich@leland.stanford.edu (Steve Rennich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Solved - Problems upgrading to 192MB RAM (P6SNE) Date: 17 Dec 1996 06:50:52 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: ba Message-ID: <595fsc$nd3@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <1996Dec16.171525.2823@il.us.swissbank.com> Thanks for all of the replies. I'm not exactly certain of the details, but the OmniPentiumPro driver seemed to be both the problem and the solution. I had previously installed an early version of the driver (w/ 64MB) that had no apparent effect - so it was deactivated under configure.app. So, I'm not sure why it was a problem. But, after intalling the latest version, everything works perfectly (w/ 192MB). I now have a fast computer with a whole lot of memory - I expect to be happy for quite some time. Thanks again.
From: mike@atlantis.ecl.wustl.edu (Mike Ehlers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NexT's for sale Date: 17 Dec 1996 09:34:37 -0600 Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO Distribution: na Message-ID: <596eid$t70@atlantis.ecl.wustl.edu> We have the following Next systems for sale. We would prefer to seel them as a lot, but will entertain bids for individual equipment. Offers should be in U.S. dollars, customer will need to arrange and pay for shipping, insurance, etc. Upon acceptance of bid, 50% ov value will be required before shipment, the remainder due upon delivery. Please remit all bids/questions via email if at all possible directly to me at the following address: Michael Ehlers mike@cs.WUSTL.EDU Department of Computer Science ph: 314-935-6429 Washington University fax: 314-935-7302 Box 1045, Bryan 509 1 Brookings Drive St. Louis, MO 63130 USA The as follows: 1 - NEXTstation TurboColor Model N1200,16MB RAM,250MB hard drive 2.88MB floppy drive,17" MegaPixel Color Display 5 - NEXTstation (33MHz) Model N1000,8MB RAM,250MB hard drive 2.88MB floppy drive, 17" MegaPixel Display 2 - NEXTstation (33MHz) Model N1000,8MB RAM,100MB hard drive 2.88MB floppy drive,17" MegaPixel Display 2 - NEXTstation (25MHz) Model N1000,8MB RAM,100MB hard drive 2.88MB floppy drive, 17" MegaPixel Display 2 - NEXTstation (25MHz) Model N1000,20MB RAM,100MB hard drive 2.88MB floppy drive,17" MegaPixel Display 1 - NEXTstation (33MHz) Model N1000,8MB RAM,500MB hard drive 2.88MB floppy drive, 17" MegaPixel Display 1 - NEXT 400dpi LaserPrinter Model N2000
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: tunefs, rotational latency, and write cache. Date: 15 Dec 96 22:56:24 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: comp Message-ID: <SHESS.96Dec15225624@howard.one.net> After my recent bout with optimizing a disk, and some time spent with "Design and Implementation of BSD4.3 Unix", I'm left with one burning question regarding rotational latency. As I understand it, by tuning the rotational latency, you can optimize write time or read time of a file WRT your system's ability to handle interrupts and the like. For instance, if your system can't handle the overhead for writing a block fast enough to write the next block _immediately_, then for fast write speed you need to adjust the rotational latency so that it has time to handle the block before it next gets a chance to write a block. This is obviously greatly affected by a wide variety of factors - overall system speed, capabilities of your disk controller, capabilities of your drivers, etc, etc ... In any case, I noted some results which I can't quite reconcile with reality. My disk (Seagate Hawk 2LP, ST31230N) has a 512k cache. Due to this, I expected that my read performance would remain approximately constant regardless of rotational latency. After all, 512k should be comfortably greater than the size of any given track. I expected that the drive would be somewhat optimistic and read ahead, so that later requests in that track would be ready more-or-less immediately, regardless of the rotational delay. I'm observing 1.65MB/s top rate, well below the drive's internal transfer rate, even being pessimistic with Seagate's numbers. Is this due to something internal? Or could I experiment (cautiously) with the drive's cache page settings? Beyond that, I'm suspecting that the same should hold true for writing. In theory I should be able to set a rotational latency of 0ms, turn on the drive's write cache, and let the _drive_ sort out the writes. The drive's cache would accept the writes at whatever speed the machine could provide them at, and then as the disk rotates the sectors would be written in order. My understanding is that it will even handle reordering (if you write sectors 10, 20, 11, it may write 11, 20, 10, or 10, 11, 20, or 20, 10, 11. Whatever's fastest). So, in theory, I should be able to get top write _and_ read speed. I know, this is a NeXTstation, so "top" is certainly up for interpretation. But it's also my experimental machine, and if I figure "it" out, then I might apply the knowledge to my faster Intel machine. [Yes, the machine is on a UPS! I'm surprised you even had to ask if I was talking about letting a SCSI disk cache my writes without a UPS.] Thanks, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: deneb@denebcorp.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Daydream on Ethernet Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:30:08 -0600 Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet Service Provider Message-ID: <32B6D8A0.69E5@denebcorp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone using a Daydream Macintosh on an ethernet network? Only recently, have I needed to connect my Cube to a 10Base-T network to exchange files with other Macintosh machines. I am able to telnet from other machines to my Cube running NeXTStep, so I am fairly sure I don't have a problem with hardware. However, when I try to access AppleShare file servers from the Chooser in the Macintosh environment, I don't SEE any servers. I have tried installing the network resources from Macintosh 7.5 install disks, but that did not help. Any suggestions on what to check would be very helpful. Bryan Pearce deneb@denebcorp.com
From: chris@computerActive.on.ca (Chris Saldanha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mouse pointer on ELSA dual-head Date: 17 Dec 1996 18:08:01 GMT Organization: computerActive Inc Message-ID: <596ni1$4o1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> I've got a problem on a dual-screen NeXTSTEP system. Sometimes when the system is running, the mouse pointer disappears and won't come back until the user logs out and restarts the window server (by logging in as "exit"). The mouse still works, but the pointer is gone. The cards are ELSA 2000PRO/X 4MB PCI. We are also running ScreenMachine II on one screen (the primary) and Cub'X on the other. Has anyone seen this problem before? --Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst | 15 Capella Ct. Suite 128 computerActive Inc. | Nepean, ON, Canada K2E 7X1 chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Voice: (613)225-4824 Entrust and PGP keys on request | FAX: (613)225-1670 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The telephone was not invented by Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad
From: dmwood@moran.Mines.EDU (WOOD DAVID M) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color inkjet printers Date: 17 Dec 1996 19:20:36 GMT Organization: Colorado School of Mines Message-ID: <596rq4$qmq@magma.Mines.EDU> Keywords: color inkjet, JetPilot I'm in the market for an inkjet printer, and the Epson Stylus Color Pro, HP820xx, and Canon BJC610 or 620 are all candidates [for use with JetPilot]. I intend to use the printer mostly for transparencies, with some conventional paper printing. Brilliant color is a high priority. I was disappointed with the somewhat washed-out, cyan tint of printouts from a > 1-year-old Epson Stylus 720dpi printer, but am also galled that the safe bet--an HP, whose colors I can attest are good and bright, can do only 300 dpi, or, at best, 600x300dpi. I've heard bad things about Epson quality control and paper handling, and about HP ink cartridge problems. The Canons are not much discussed, for some reason. I've been dutifully reading comp.periphs.printers for a couple weeks now, but there's a lot of heat and not always much light there. Can anyone with direct experience comparing the Canons/HP's/Epson Styli with JetPilot comment? The JetPilot 2.3 README file does not show the Canon 620 as supported (although the 610 is). Many thanks! -- David M. Wood Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401 Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840 e-mail: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jerry@icgned.nl (Jerry Martin van der Duim) Subject: Intel 82557 Message-ID: <E2Krqy.BC6@icgned.nl> Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: IC Group Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:32:58 GMT Hello, I'm trying to install NS3.3 on a HP Vectra 150. I have installed the following cards a Adaptec 2940 scsi controller and an intel 82557 Pro+ Ether express network card. The installation went fine but when i configured the network card and the S3 display driver things went black on me. There is no login screen when the startup has been completed but a complete black screen. Then i tried the beta driver (S3) ditto result. But when it doesn't make it trough the startup it hangs on netinfo or on routed. It seems that this machine doesn't want to do anything. ... time passing It seems the machine is willing to boot but the moment it displays the login window. Yep a black screen and nothing else. What might be the problem. I willing to try them all. Jerry Martin van der Duim
From: Dale Pippert <dpippert@taratec.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color inkjet printers Date: 17 Dec 1996 23:33:52 GMT Organization: Taratec Development Corporation Message-ID: <597al0$6h5@news.dca.net> References: <596rq4$qmq@magma.Mines.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: dmwood@moran.Mines.EDU David - PMFJI, but do any of these color printers support PostScript. I am interested in obtaining a color inkjet that will understand PostScript from my NeXT. Thanks, Dale dpippert@taratec.com
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <597opg$k94@crawler.dlc.fi> Date: 18 Dec 1996 04:56:53 GMT Control: cancel <597opg$k94@crawler.dlc.fi> Message-ID: <cancel.597opg$k94@crawler.dlc.fi> Sender: jorge@mailloop.com Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: jerry@icgned.nl (Jerry Martin van der Duim) Subject: Re:Sound Problem Message-ID: <E2HzxF.2o6@icgned.nl> Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: IC Group Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 08:36:51 GMT Hello, I read a lot of complaints about the SoundBlaster PnP cards. I will try to explain how I go about this. First install the latest EISA/ISA bus driver. Install the SoundBlaster driver with PnP enabled. When the card gives no sound than the PnP id is probably wrong. The PnP id can be found in the file /usr/adm/messages. Just after the memory messages and before the PCI dection there is a message about a PnP id. The line looks like this: xID S/N number. fill in the id in the expert options of the SoundBlaster driver. At the expert options you see something like Bus Type PnP and Auto Detect IDs. Then try a restart and see if this fixed the problem.This has always been the case with me. Success J.M.D.
From: mpd@gulf.net (Mark Pappas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PPP & GateKeeper Have Whipped My Butt!! Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 21:13:15 -0500 Organization: Mark Pappas Development Message-ID: <mpd-ya023180001712962113150001@news.gulf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi All, I have OpenStep 4.1 running on a NeXTstation. I'm using whatever version of PPP that comes with OpenStep 4.1 & GateKeeper 2.0. I go through the setup (running on cufb with the right cable and a 28800 modem). If I hit Link the system just sits there. If I hit dial I get: connected Timeout error while sending modemInit script to the modem: I/O error [Process exited - exit code 255] Then the TR light on the modem lights up and the port chokes. The only way I can clear the port is to power down the machine. If anyone has any good advise please send. TIA -- Thanks Mark Pappas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Pappas Development E-mail: mpd@gulf.net Consultant http://www.gulf.net/~mpd/ 3915 Lynn Ora Dr. Phone: (904) 476-3773 Pensacola, FL 32504 Specializing in Macintosh Databases & NMI's Microbrew
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 19:11:07 -0600 From: harderm@ucs.orst.edu Subject: NeXT workstation with time warp & dim screen problems. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Message-ID: <850804525.23661@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service I currently have 2 problems with my 25MHz monochrome workstation: 1.) its begun generating "time warp detected" errors every few seconds which it sends ONLY to console.log until (after a few days) it fills the hard drive. The Preferences clock doesn't seem to be unusually inaccurate lately. What's a time warp error & How do I fix this? 2.) The screen is so dim i can barely read it in a lit room. Trying to increase brightness with the keyboard control doesn't solve the problem. Could there be some way of increasing screen brightness within the monitor case? Or do I need a new tube? If I do, can I replace the tube without sending the monitor in to Bell Atlantic? -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PPP & GateKeeper Have Whipped My Butt!! Date: 17 Dec 1996 23:46:47 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <5980g7$mk1@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> References: <mpd-ya023180001712962113150001@news.gulf.net> Bcc: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu [Posted and Mailed] Mark Pappas <mpd@gulf.net> wrote: > [...NeXTstation running OS4.1 & PPP2.x...] > I go through the setup (running on cufb with the right cable and a 28800 >modem). If I hit Link the system just sits there. If I hit dial I get: > >connected >Timeout error while sending modemInit script to the modem: I/O error > >[Process exited - exit code 255] > >Then the TR light on the modem lights up and the port chokes. The only way >I can clear the port is to power down the machine. Mark, Are you absolutely sure you're using the right modem cable? No offense, Mark. But I had exactly the same problems you're having when I tried to configure PPP on my 040 station with a 28.8K modem and a "Mac hardware-handshaking modem cable". I blamed human error for it, since I could always "tip" at speeds below 9600, but run into the above problems when I tried to "tip" or ppp connect at 28.8K. So I opened my mouth (in an unrelated thread) and exposed my ignorance in the newsgroup, here's a summary of the responses I got from quite a few good folks who helped me out with my problem: * I _must_ get a genuine NeXT hardware handshaking modem cable if I want to get a connection faster than 9600. * Mac modem cable (even those advertised as hardware handshaking) does not work on any 040 slab or cubes at speed higher than 9600, since the pinouts on the serial port of a NeXT is different from that of a Mac where the hardware handshaking is concerned. * Success stories only come from people using Mac cables on 030 Cube, since 030's do not support hardware handshaking; or 040's connecting at <= 9600. I was convinced and promptly ordered one modem cable from Shannon Edwards at DeepSpace (www.deepspacetech.com) for $25. The cable arrived this morning. I plugged it in and rebooted the machine. Lo and behold! Everything works! The problems you have described and I had experienced completely disappeared, and my ppp and tip sessions all worked. Mark, if you haven't done it yet, try using "tip" to manually dial your local ISP at 28.8K. If you still get the "I/O" error, it's about time you got your station a new modem cable. Good luck! liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@anet-dfw.com> | <liuyi@usa.net> Dallas, TX
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems upgrading to 192MB RAM (P6SNE) Date: 18 Dec 1996 08:22:34 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5989ka$pe2@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <58rgnf$1h7@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <SHESS.96Dec14213330@slave.one.net> shess@one.net (Scott Hess) wrote: > Do you have enough tag SRAM? Most HX boards that I've seen come [,,,] The original poster was talking about a P6 board. These boards never have cache memory, so tag SRAM can't be the problem. I guess that the problem is an overlapping address region between mainboard memory and video RAM, or a misconfigured Omni PPro driver. I'd disable the PPro driver and temporarily switch to the standard VGA driver to see if the problem goes away then. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: buckaroo@blackbox.free.de (Mark Nowiasz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Connecting a Phasedrive? (Black hardware) Date: 11 Dec 1996 16:25:13 GMT Organization: Blackbox - The Dark Site Message-ID: <58mn99$2er@blackbox.free.de> Hi! I've got for nearly 4 weeks my own NeXTstation and I bought myself a Panasonic phasedrive. Since drive initialization/formatting won't work without a proper disktab, I had to write my own enty: MATSHITAPD-1 LF-1000:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#160:nt#1:ns#4057:ss#1024:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#256:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#649088:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#8:da#15203:ra#5:oa=time\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa Now, for safety reasons, I want to generate a bootable medium on a PhaseDrive disk, but Builddisk.app won't write the bootblock.. has any one an idea where to write the bootblocks (z0 / z1)? And is there any way to reduce the bytes/inode, since 15203 bytes will generate quite few inodes.. so: has anyone got a better entry in the disktab for this kind of drive? Another thing.. a readily formatted (DOS-format) Phasedrive disk seems to be recognized as an optical disk.. is there any way to format a disk so it will be recognized as am optical disk? BTW.. reading CD-Roms & playing Audio-CDs works absolutely superb. :-) Thanks in advance, -- Mark (buckaroo@blackbox.free.de) |\ _,,,---,,_ Mark Nowiasz, Kronenstrasse 3, 44625 Herne, Ger /,.-'' -. ;-;;,_ IRC: Buckaroo Voice: +49 177 2190385 |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( '-' http://www.free.de/~buckaroo/ '---''(_/--' -'\_) >>> Pierced master and slave of HAUSMAUS <<<
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems upgrading to 192MB RAM (P6SNE) Date: 18 Dec 96 11:18:42 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.96Dec18111842@howard.one.net> References: <58rgnf$1h7@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <SHESS.96Dec14213330@slave.one.net> <5989ka$pe2@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> In-reply-to: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de's message of 18 Dec 1996 08:22:34 GMT In article <5989ka$pe2@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>, bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) writes: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) wrote: > Do you have enough tag SRAM? Most HX boards that I've seen come [,,,] The original poster was talking about a P6 board. These boards never have cache memory, so tag SRAM can't be the problem. Ulp. That didn't even occur to me, I must have missed a "6" somewhere, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: deneb@denebcorp.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Dimension Performance? Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:14:38 -0600 Organization: InterAccess, Chicago's best Internet Service Provider Message-ID: <32B8267E.1BD5@denebcorp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a NeXT Dimension w/8MB RAM in my '040 Cube. I was wondering what benefit adding more memory to the NeXT Dimension would provide. Would the screen refresh faster? Also, does anyone know if standard Macintosh 72-Pin SIMMS can be used on the NeXT Dimension as long as they are installed in groups of 4? Thanks! Bryan Pearce deneb@denebcorp.com
From: dmr@westview.rochester.ny.us (Daniel Rosenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Turbo slab memory upgrades? Date: 18 Dec 1996 20:47:42 GMT Organization: VivaNET Incorporated Message-ID: <599l9e$dmf@newsfeed.vivanet.com> Hi folks -- I'm gathering that Turbo-style black hardware wants 70ns, 72-pin parity or non-parity SIMMs for memory expansion; the FAQ says something about "possible" problems with 60ns memory being interpreted as 100ns memory, and NextAnswers seems to say that filling all four slots on a Turbo 'station with parity SIMMs may slow down processor throughput by 8%. All of this information, however, seems a bit diffuse and inexact. Would anyone care to share their experiences in purchasing modern SIMMs to add memory to Turbo hardware? Thanks, -- # Daniel Rosenberg / In the city of Rochester, New York. # dmr@westview.rochester.ny.us
From: Markus Pilzecker <markus.pilzecker@rhein-neckar.netsurf.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Elsa Winner 1000 AVI runs 175 MHz :-))) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 01:19:37 +0000 Organization: GNI -- Internet fuer Odenwald, Rhein-Neckar, Karlsruhe, Kaiserslautern, Heilbronn und Pfaffenhofen Message-ID: <32B89829.5E20F86D@rhein-neckar.netsurf.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo folks, for a long time I was very unhappy with the fact, that it was not possible to use user defined video modes with the Elsa Winner 1000 AVI and 2000 Pro/X on NSfI 3.3 in spite of Elsa promises. The worst fact was that there were no higher video modes with an aspect ratio of 4:3 above 1150x850. The surprise that the 1000 AVI accepts video modes up to a pixel clock of 175 MHz gives us a cheap video card with a multiscreen driver and modes of 1536x1152 and 1600x1200. Imaging quality is only slightly worse than with the 2000 Pro/X. Ciao, Markus PS: The 175 MHz clock rate also works with XFree 3.2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sackpost: Markus Pilzecker voice: +49 6251 39415 Am Wechsel 9a V34,V17: +49 6251 39575 D-64625 Bensheim email: markus.pilzecker@rhein-neckar.netsurf.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is not licensed to be distributed over the Microsoft Network. Microsoft may buy a license to distribute this message over their network for 100 US$. Should anybody see this message on the MSN, then please send a small email to me and to postmaster@msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: peichun@ms7.hinet.net (Peichun Hong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to add one more SCSI device in /dev ? Date: 19 Dec 1996 04:21:05 GMT Organization: DCI HiNet Message-ID: <59afrh$3vq@netnews.hinet.net> I am trying to add a SCSI card (AHA 1542CF) into my system (Intel), however I could not find "sc1" in /dev . Does anyone have experience on adding device into /dev ? My ATAPI CD_ROM occupied the first SCSI port as "sc0" . So, I have to add one more SCSI port in /dev . The peripheral I want to attach on SCSI is a scanner . thanks !!
From: jdevlin@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sharp or fuzzy text on NeXT color monitors? Date: 19 Dec 1996 13:07:31 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <59bemj$oab@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Hello, I've just recently had my first chance to play with a Color NeXTStation. The monitor is a 17" Sony. Color is terrific and images look stunning, but text is hard to read -- it's certainly nowhere near as sharp as on my old 4000A monochrome monitor, even after adjusting the "v-stat" and "h-stat" dials on the front of the Sony display, which did help a bit. For example, I can preview TeX/LaTeX documents on my monochrome display using an 11pt font size and it's like reading a piece of paper. If I try to preview the same document on the Sony, I'd go blind trying to read it. Have other people had the same experience? Is the Sony monitor out of wack? Is there some internal adjustment that could be made by someone who knew how? Advice, suggestions, observations ... all most welcome. Thanks. -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: jdevlin@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color inkjet on black hardware? Date: 19 Dec 1996 13:13:05 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <59bf11$odb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Hello, I didn't see this one in the FAQ's, but I remember a discussion years ago about hooking up postscript printers to the serial port on black hardware. Does it "just work" or is it more involved than that? I seem to remember that it might be very slow. Is that right? Is that the only problem? I love my NeXT laser printer, but color inkjets are so cheap now ... it's tempting to add one on. Many thanks for your input ... Best, -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Dimension Performance? Date: 19 Dec 1996 15:19:57 GMT Message-ID: <59bmet$qg9@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <32B8267E.1BD5@denebcorp.com> In article <32B8267E.1BD5@denebcorp.com> deneb@denebcorp.com writes: > I have a NeXT Dimension w/8MB RAM in my '040 Cube. I was wondering > what benefit adding more memory to the NeXT Dimension would provide. > Would the screen refresh faster? > > Also, does anyone know if standard Macintosh 72-Pin SIMMS can be used > on the NeXT Dimension as long as they are installed in groups of 4? > > Thanks! > > Bryan Pearce > deneb@denebcorp.com performance, including screen refresh, must go up with more memory, but how much is for the experts to say. experts, please? i have the same question about adding more to my 64/32 configuration. yes, standard 72-pin simms. make sure to get 70ns, and no more than 8mb per stick, per previous consensus in this newsgroup. chris borden cdb@thoughtport.com
From: walton@emc.com (John Walton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sharp or fuzzy text on NeXT color monitors? Date: 19 Dec 1996 12:00:25 -0500 Organization: EMC Corporation Message-ID: <1996Dec19.115638@emc.com> References: <59bemj$oab@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <59bemj$oab@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, jdevlin@umich.edu writes: |> Hello, |> |> I've just recently had my first chance to play with a Color NeXTStation. |> The monitor is a 17" Sony. Color is terrific and images look stunning, but |> text is hard to read -- it's certainly nowhere near as sharp as on my old |> 4000A monochrome monitor, even after adjusting the "v-stat" and "h-stat" |> dials on the front of the Sony display, which did help a bit. |> |> For example, I can preview TeX/LaTeX documents on my monochrome display |> using an 11pt font size and it's like reading a piece of paper. If I try |> to preview the same document on the Sony, I'd go blind trying to read it. Ditto |> |> Have other people had the same experience? Is the Sony monitor out of |> wack? Is there some internal adjustment that could be made by someone who |> knew how? No, Thats the price you pay for Color. I maintain a NeXT machine just for reading documentation at home, in addition to some color tube to do applications work on. At work I have a Sparcstation with TWO monochrome tubes, and a color one. It's just _that_ bad. Of course, I'm pretty color blind too. It's too bad that monochrome monitors can't compete on price, and variety. I'd buy a 20 incher for my PC in a minute! |> |> Advice, suggestions, observations ... all most welcome. |> |> Thanks. |> |> |> -- |> John Devlin |> Department of Philosophy |> The University of Michigan |> Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: jdevlin@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sharp or fuzzy text on NeXT color monitors? Date: 19 Dec 1996 18:25:53 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <59c1bh$29a@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: <59bemj$oab@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1996Dec19.115638@emc.com> In-Reply-To: <1996Dec19.115638@emc.com> On 12/19/96, John Walton wrote: [stuff deleted] >No, Thats the price you pay for Color. [...] >It's too bad that monochrome monitors can't compete on price, and >variety. I'd buy a 20 incher for my PC in a minute! I see three and only three places where the NeXT monochrome monitors 4000A and 4000B are defficient. First, refresh is only 68 Hz. On a ADB color turbo it's 72 Hz; on a Mac, it's now 75 Hz. I notice the difference! Second, you do NOT get a true square display; it's badly warped. This might get worse over time, but I've noticed the same problem on every NeXT monochrome display I've seen -- new or old. It's not a problem I've encountered with the NeXT Sony monitor or with other high end color displays. Third, some web pages are unreadable in two bit grey scale. Other than that ... :) -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
From: chris@vespucci.iquest.com (Chris Fisher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstation without fan? Date: 19 Dec 1996 15:08:40 -0600 Organization: interQuest Online Services -- Huntsville, AL Distribution: world Message-ID: <59caso$5r3@vespucci.iquest.com> Can a mono nextstation turbo run without the fan? How long does this shorten the lifespan by? The fan in mine is incredibly loud and no amount of cleaning seems to help. chris -- "If unix were easy, Microsoft would have made a version by now." - Me (NeXTmail accepted) FreeBSD/NeXTstep/OSF/VSTa/Ultrix/SunOS/ URLs: www.nsa.org www.unix.org Linux/Unixware/Sco/Solaris/MicrosoftOS*
From: bob@buchanan.interpath.com (James Robert Buchanan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Ribbon cable for 2nd HD in cube Date: 19 Dec 1996 15:32:52 -0500 Organization: Interpath Network Sender: bob@buchanan.interpath.com Message-ID: <x7916ucm17.fsf@buchanan.interpath.com> Hello, This is probably a FAQ and if so just tell me. I have a NeXTcube with a functioning harddisk and a dead optical drive in it. I would like to remove the OD and install in its place a 2nd (functioning) harddisk. Where can I get (or fabricate) the proper SCSI cable to support two harddisk drives inside the cube? Thanks, Bob Buchanan (buchanan@netrax.net) -- Bob Buchanan <buchanan@netrax.net>
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill@staff1.texas.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation without fan? Date: 19 Dec 1996 21:51:50 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <59cddm$99r@news3.texas.net> References: <59caso$5r3@vespucci.iquest.com> Chris Fisher <chris@vespucci.iquest.com> wrote: : Can a mono nextstation turbo run without the fan? How long does this : shorten the lifespan by? The fan in mine is incredibly loud and no amount : of cleaning seems to help. : chris It's not the fan, its the internal 400mb hard drive. Mine is the same way. Replace the hard drive and it should be quiet. -- bill bradford system admin, unix geek, super hero, BOFH mrbill@texas.net texas networking, inc. http://www.texas.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a test of the emergency signature system. Were this an actual signature, you would see amusing mottos, disclaimers, a zillion net addresses, or edifying philisophical statements. This is only a test.
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Dimension Performance? Date: 19 Dec 1996 20:13:30 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <59c7la$fau@news.next.com> References: <32B8267E.1BD5@denebcorp.com> In article <32B8267E.1BD5@denebcorp.com> deneb@denebcorp.com writes: > I have a NeXT Dimension w/8MB RAM in my '040 Cube. I was wondering > what benefit adding more memory to the NeXT Dimension would provide. > Would the screen refresh faster? If there are any hesitations or pauses while refreshing windows, then, yes, more memory would help. > Also, does anyone know if standard Macintosh 72-Pin SIMMS can be used > on the NeXT Dimension as long as they are installed in groups of 4? Probably. The machine will accept 1 Mbyte or 4 Mbyte single-sided 72 pin SIMMs, and 2 or 8 Mbyte double-sided SIMMs. The SIMMs should be rated at 80 ns or faster, and support page mode access. SIMMs must be added to the ND board in groups of four identical SIMMS. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. newsgroup: A monkey house in an inadequately tended zoo.
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turbo slab memory upgrades? Date: 19 Dec 1996 20:20:25 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <59c829$fc7@news.next.com> References: <599l9e$dmf@newsfeed.vivanet.com> In article <599l9e$dmf@newsfeed.vivanet.com> dmr@westview.rochester.ny.us (Daniel Rosenberg) writes: > I'm gathering that Turbo-style black hardware wants 70ns, > 72-pin parity or non-parity SIMMs for memory expansion; the FAQ says > something about "possible" problems with 60ns memory being interpreted > as 100ns memory, and NextAnswers seems to say that filling all four > slots on a Turbo 'station with parity SIMMs may slow down processor > throughput by 8%. > All of this information, however, seems a bit diffuse and > inexact. Would anyone care to share their experiences in purchasing > modern SIMMs to add memory to Turbo hardware? The Turbo memory controller supports 100 ns or 70 ns SIMMs. Mixing the two will result in 100 ns memory timing. I'm not sure what the speed encoding for 60 ns SIMMs looks like (in terms of which sense lines are pulled). If it doesn't yank on the lines that encode the 100 ns speed, you may get away with it. The use of parity memory may slow down memory access by one wait state IF parity checking is enabled in the ROM preferences. If parity checking is disabled in the ROM, then the faster non-parity timing is used. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. newsgroup: A monkey house in an inadequately tended zoo.
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation without fan? Date: 19 Dec 1996 21:44:27 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Distribution: world Message-ID: <59ccvr$12hu@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <59caso$5r3@vespucci.iquest.com> Chris Fisher (chris@vespucci.iquest.com) wrote: > Can a mono nextstation turbo run without the fan? How long does this > shorten the lifespan by? The fan in mine is incredibly loud and no amount > of cleaning seems to help. Noooooooo... don't even think of it. If you are sure it's the fan (unplug it an reboot for a very short time, and compare the resulting noise),simply buy a new fan. I've done this with quite a bit of success for a colorstation. Unfortunately, they need a stronger fan, so it's still a bit loud, but a monostation will be relatively quiet with an intact fan and a silent hard disc. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: tholland@dreams.skidmore.edu (Anthony Holland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jazz drive and NeXT BW...anybody got it running? Date: 19 Dec 1996 21:10:47 GMT Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY 12866 Message-ID: <59cb0n$np0@saims.skidmore.edu> Keywords: Jazz drive My main disk is getting REAL old... I'm thinking of trying a Jazz Gig drive. Anybody got one running with "old" NeXT BW hardware? Thanks for any pointers/info. Anthony Holland Skidmore College reply: tholland@skidmore.edu
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OD problem. Need help. Date: 19 Dec 1996 23:13:41 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <59ci75$t6k@dropit.pgh.net> My OD has stopped working in a non-traditional manner. Instead of spinning up and back down, it locks up my system, usually producing a timeout message on the console: od0?: command failed (busy timeout #1) This is followed by block information which usually is not the same. The only solution is to re-boot. I tried the /etc/disk /dev/rod0a trick to no avail. I got a message to the effect that it couldn't find the dev or something like that. I consider that most strange because that device does exist. crw-r----- 1 root 9, 0 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod0a crw-r----- 1 root 9, 1 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod0b crw-r----- 1 root 9, 2 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod0c crw-r----- 1 root 9, 3 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod0d crw-r----- 1 root 9, 4 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod0e crw-r----- 1 root 9, 5 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod0f crw-r----- 1 root 9, 6 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod0g crw-r----- 1 root 9, 7 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod0h crw-r----- 1 root 9, 8 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod1a crw-r----- 1 root 9, 9 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod1b crw-r----- 1 root 9, 10 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod1c crw-r----- 1 root 9, 11 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod1d crw-r----- 1 root 9, 12 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod1e crw-r----- 1 root 9, 13 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod1f crw-r----- 1 root 9, 14 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod1g crw-r----- 1 root 9, 15 Nov 11 1994 /dev/rod1h Background: I use ODs to store my source and binary code, purchased and PD. The drive worked fine the last time I used it in July. Obviously I really need to recover this stuff. BTW, I do have a filter and the fan blows in the correct direction. I thought the problem might be a CPU board I had replaced or the fact that I had added RAM, but when I restored the system to its prior state the problem persisted. When I boot the system, I get the following information: odc0 at 0x2112000 <<< Doesn't change with 24Mb or 52 Mb of RAM od0 at odc0 slave 0 drive ROM v8. servo ROM v8 od1 at odc0 slave 1 I wish I could say I knew what was displayed a few months ago, but I do not so this may or may not have changed. Anyhow, I hope somebody can offer some advice because I am at a loss. If you need more info, please let me know and I will try to provide it. Thanks, Bob ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
From: dsb@doremi.llnl.gov (Dave S. Bailey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! od: empty q Date: 19 Dec 1996 23:36:39 GMT Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Message-ID: <59cji7$79q@lll-winken.llnl.gov> References: <591kvb$8j3@news.fsu.edu> In article <591kvb$8j3@news.fsu.edu> Peter S. Lakanen <lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu> writes: <snip> > panic: (Cpu 0) od: empty q > NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66 > panic: NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994; root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K > > I have never seen this before. Can anyone help me > this problem? > Since I just had this happen to me, I can tell you that it's definitely an OD failure. Disconnecting the OD will allow the boot to complete normally (minus the OD). I don't know what the problem is, though.
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstation HD: "sdcmd bad state: 0" Date: 19 Dec 1996 22:15:47 -0500 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <59d0d3$134@news.duke.edu> I just bought a used NeXTstation and powered it up only to get this error: Ethernet address: 0:0:f:1:44:94 Memory size 20MB Boot command: sd boot sd(0,0,0) booting SCSI target 1, lun 0 waiting for drive to come ready... READ: sdcmd bad state: 0 short read Can't load blk0 boot After powering down and back up, the boot sequence hangs at: waiting for drive to come ready................................etc. Now, I noticed there is no terminator on the external SCSI plug. Should there be? (I didn't think so). Otherwise, is this hard disk dead? How can it be tested? Revived? Thanks for any answers. -- Lee Altenberg altenber@acpub.duke.edu
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color inkjet printers Date: 20 Dec 1996 03:26:04 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961220032500.WAA27742@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <597al0$6h5@news.dca.net> As regards color inkjet printers with built-in PostScript. The only ones I'm immediately aware of, at the lower end of the price spectrum (this is what I'm familiar with) are the HP DeskJet 1600CM, and the Lexmark 4079+. The 1600CM is a wonderfully fast four-color printer, with quite good quality. The Lexmark is built on the same Canon engine as the BJC-8xx line and the original NeXT Color printer--it prints tabloid, which is its biggest attraction I'd guess. Both of these are ~$2,000 or more or less, depending on installed memory. Hope this helps! William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Peter S. Lakanen <lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP! od: empty q Date: 15 Dec 1996 19:53:15 GMT Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <591kvb$8j3@news.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I love my NeXTCube (I've had it for almost 5 years), but it seems to be broke. Here's what I have: NeXTCube, 040, 12MG RAM Seagate 1010 MB hard drive (SCSI Target 1) Micropolis 1008 MB hard drive (SCSI Target 2) PLI Super Floppy (SCSI Target 3) Iomega Zip Drive (SCSI Target 6) Busted optical disk drive I don't use anymore I am currently running NS 3.3. When I boot the system, everything goes fine until it gets to the first "Checking disks" (it does this twice normally because of the two hard drives). After about 45-60 seconds, I get this lovely message: panic: (Cpu 0) od: empty q NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66 panic: NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994; root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K I have never seen this before. Can anyone help me this problem? Does the "od" in the first line mean there is a problem with the optical disk drive? If so, can I just disconnect it? If it's not the optical, then have I lost a hard drive? If I have lost the hard drive, anyone know anyplace that can recover the drive? Thank you so much for helping me with my greatest anxiety attack of the year. -- ======================================================================== Peter Lakanen | Electronic/Computer Music Instructor....Club DJ.. lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu | ....Remixer....Computer Geek....Lover Of Dogs.... (904) 681-6635 | COME VISIT ME: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~lakanen ========================================================================
From: "James Phelps" <jphelps@niu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Jazz drive and NeXT BW...anybody got it running? Date: 20 Dec 1996 08:43:45 GMT Organization: Northern Illinois University Message-ID: <01bbee52$0f0c1680$08c89c83@cowboy3.cowboy3> References: <59cb0n$np0@saims.skidmore.edu> Anthony Holland <tholland@dreams.skidmore.edu> wrote in article <59cb0n$np0@saims.skidmore.edu>... > My main disk is getting REAL old... I'm thinking of trying a Jazz Gig > drive. Anybody got one running with "old" NeXT BW hardware? > > Thanks for any pointers/info. > > Anthony Holland > Skidmore College > > reply: tholland@skidmore.edu > I just set up a couple of Jaz drives here in the studios ... one on a Mac and another on a NeXT. We needed to be able to share materials between systems with these disks. I'm pleased with what I've seen so far. Once the disk is initialized on the Mac, it loads swiftly on the NeXT and is quick enough for realtime read/write CD-quality sound. Of course I've only had it for a couple of days. :>) -Jim Phelps, Director, NIUCMS http://nicemusic.music.niu.edu/NIUCMS/NIUCMS.html
From: Alois Steindl <asteindl@mch2ws1.tuwien.ac.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Tilted B/W monitor of NeXTstation. Date: 20 Dec 1996 11:14:20 +0100 Organization: Inst. f. Mechanics II, TU Vienna Message-ID: <u74thhwmir.fsf@mch2ws1.tuwien.ac.at> Hello, some days ago I noticed that the screen image on my B/W monitor (bought 1991) looks tilted (about 1cm across the horizontal). I couldn't find any device to correct that. Can I correct the problem myself or do I have to ask some servicepersons? Could this problem maybe be an indication of aging problems? I just bought additional memory for the station and really would like to keep it for some longer time, since it works really fine. Thanks for any hints Alois Alois Steindl, Tel.: +43 (1) 58801 / 5529 Inst. for Mechanics II, Fax.: +43 (1) 5875863 Vienna University of Technology, A-1040 Wiedner Hauptstr. 8-10 Email: Alois.Steindl+Mechanik@tuwien.ac.at
From: colby@agora.rdrop.com (Keith Colbaugh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2940 Date: 20 Dec 1996 03:58:25 GMT Organization: RainDrop Laboratories/Agora(sm), Portland, Oregon Message-ID: <59d2t1$mm6@hermes.rdrop.com>
From: haller@gosling.cs.dal.ca (Kirk Haller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Recommendation for quiet hard drive Date: 20 Dec 1996 15:37:10 GMT Organization: ISINet, Nova Scotia Message-ID: <59ebr6$6mc@News.Dal.Ca> I'm sure that I'm one of many people looking for a hard drive for a NeXTstation. :) I was wondering if people have any recommendations for a good quiet internal hard drive. I'm thinking of something in the 1G range. Thanks, -- Kirk Haller haller@gosling.cs.dal.ca ********************************************************************* Department of Mathematics, Statistics, and Computing Science Dalhousie University Halifax, N.S. Canada B3H 3J5 *********************************************************************
From: tunaman@deltanet.com (tunaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info, Docs, Pointers for NeXT 1000A Date: 20 Dec 1996 07:32:35 GMT Organization: Delta Internet Services, Anaheim, Ca Message-ID: <59dfej$8lv@news04.deltanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I just received a 1000A and have no documentation. The 21" color monitor doesn't come up, and I'm looking for interim display solutions before dropping the bucks to repair it. What and how can I hook up an alternative display? There appears to be a VGA-style DB9 connector, as well as a RCA video out - can I use either of these? I am also looking for any good pointers on the web for sites with any documentation for the hardware, or any other sources where I might find some helpful documentation for configuration and operation. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks tunaman Please feel free to respond here or email with replies... -- ******************************************************************** * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |\ tunaman@deltanet.com * * ~>>~ >>~> >~>>~~> | \ rogn@chevron.com * * >~ >~~>>~>~~>~>~~ | \ Chevron Petroleum Technology * * >~>>~~>~>>~>~>>~ Jo \ http://users.deltanet.com/~tunaman * ********************************************************************
From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Recommendation for quiet hard drive Date: 20 Dec 1996 15:55:35 GMT Organization: Infinity AccessNET Message-ID: <59ectn$ot2@garfield.iaxs.net> References: <59ebr6$6mc@News.Dal.Ca> Kirk Haller (haller@gosling.cs.dal.ca) wrote: : I was wondering if people have any recommendations for a good quiet internal : hard drive. I'm thinking of something in the 1G range. i just dropped a seagate 2.1GB hawk (st32430n) in my turbocolor, and it's silent. i mean, like, *really* silent. i was doing many concurrent disk operations and i couldn't hear a thing. ymmv. -- # david young: +oo developer # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com, dwy@ace.net (NeXTmail ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lerche@nxth04.cern.ch (Wolfgang Lerche) Subject: Adaptec 2940 noboot Message-ID: <E2pyno.LoF@news.cern.ch> Sender: news@news.cern.ch (USENET News System) Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:50:12 GMT Hello, I was trying to install NS3.3 on an Intel VS440FX with an Adaptec2940UW controller. I have both an Toshiba ADAPI CD-ROM and also the NeXT SONY SCSI CD-ROM to play with. After following the instrutions, booting from the floppy, I always get: Adaptec2940: cannot get configSpace: ABORTING no SCSI drive or CD ROM found. Can somebody tell what to do here ? Thanks ! W. Lerche CERN lerche@nxth04.cern.ch
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoundBlaster "compatible" cards on NS3.3i? Date: 20 Dec 1996 19:15:59 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <59eolf$19t@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <mbtu3ph6sks.fsf@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> In article <mbtu3ph6sks.fsf@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> Zachery Joseph Bir <zbir@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> writes: > My sound card (Avance ALS100) cliams 100% SB16 compatibility. It does <... (Doesn't work with NEXTSTEP) ... > In my experience, only REAL Soundblasters work with NeXT's SoundBlaster driver. Go figure. Then again, you're welcome to prove me wrong. Make sure you have the most up-to-date drivers from NeXT: (http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/) EISABus version 3.35 (there's an updated one for OS4 too) SoundBlaster16 version 3.34 (ditto) -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Zachery Joseph Bir <zbir@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SoundBlaster "compatible" cards on NS3.3i? Date: 20 Dec 1996 12:20:19 -0500 Organization: Very little Message-ID: <mbtu3ph6sks.fsf@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> My sound card (Avance ALS100) cliams 100% SB16 compatibility. It does perform well under DOS and Win95, however NS chokes on it. So far, I can only get the System Beep driver working (go figure). Has anyone used this card? Or successfully used any other card claiming 100% compat.? Thanks, Zac Zachery J. Bir - zbir@indiana.edu http://seven.ucs.indiana.edu/~zbir/index.html
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Recommendation for quiet hard drive Date: 20 Dec 1996 21:37:27 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <59f0un$iie@news.digifix.com> References: <59ebr6$6mc@News.Dal.Ca> <59ectn$ot2@garfield.iaxs.net> In-Reply-To: <59ectn$ot2@garfield.iaxs.net> On 12/20/96, David Young wrote: >Kirk Haller (haller@gosling.cs.dal.ca) wrote: >: I was wondering if people have any recommendations for a good quiet internal >: hard drive. I'm thinking of something in the 1G range. > >i just dropped a seagate 2.1GB hawk (st32430n) in my turbocolor, and >it's silent. i mean, like, *really* silent. i was doing many concurrent >disk operations and i couldn't hear a thing. ymmv. While I didn't pony up the bucks for a 2.1 Gb hawk, the 1 Gb Hawk is also very quiet, much nicer to work around. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: colinj@fiveup.cs.unm.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstation - Adding RAM Date: 20 Dec 1996 21:26:12 GMT Organization: The University of New Mexico, Department of Computer Science Sender: news@fiveup.cs.unm.edu Message-ID: <E2qE7o.M0y@fiveup.cs.unm.edu> References: <joel-1312961429170001@mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net> In article <joel-1312961429170001@mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net>, Joel Lingenfelter <joel@fefcful.org> wrote: >I had my NeXT apart one day, and found that I couldn't remove the RAM. I >have been contemplating moving this thing up to 20 or 32 MB, but don't >have any idea how to get the current memory out. Help anyone? You'll need the NeXT SIMM tool. It looks suspiciously like a dental pick as you might find in a dentists office. It's handle is about six inches long and then it bends 90 degs and comes to a point over about 1/2 of an inch. You can slip it into the hole on the side of the SIMMs and lever them out. I'm pretty sure that this is outlined in the FAQ. -- Why must I feel like that? Why must I chase the cat? Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ NeXTMail, MIMEmail, textmail, send it all, I'm easy.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dimitri@netcom.com (Dimitri I. Rakitine) Subject: 4000A power on hours Message-ID: <dimitriE2qFrs.56B@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 21:59:52 GMT Sender: dimitri@netcom11.netcom.com Hi! I remember reading somewhere that 4000A monitors (mono) are expected to last ~10,000 power-on hours before going dim. Assuming that most of unix stations are always ON does that mean that my newly bought mono station made in 1991 will last only a few hours before going dim? Dimitri
From: jm041536@fhda.edu (Joaquin Menchaca) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: [Q] EtherWave card woes Date: 20 Dec 1996 22:21:47 GMT Organization: De Anza College Message-ID: <jm041536-2012961417240001@mencjo.apple.com> I cannot get my 3OM EtherWave 3c509 (Farallon OEMed) parallel tasking card to work with NeXTSTEP. I do not under stand why? Any suggestions? - joaquin -- ############################################################### # My opinions are my own and not of any I work for. # ############################################################### # WARNING: DO NOT send unwarranted mail or SPAMS! Further # # proceedings of sending unwarranted email or spams will # # result in fines up to $1000 in damages. # ###############################################################
From: jm041536@fhda.edu (Joaquin Menchaca) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [Q] AWE32 card? Date: 20 Dec 1996 22:19:35 GMT Organization: De Anza College Message-ID: <jm041536-2012961415120001@mencjo.apple.com> How do I get my AWE32 Sound Card to work under NeXTSTEP 3.3? I wish to play some sounds, is there a way to do this. -- ############################################################### # My opinions are my own and not of any I work for. # ############################################################### # WARNING: DO NOT send unwarranted mail or SPAMS! Further # # proceedings of sending unwarranted email or spams will # # result in fines up to $1000 in damages. # ###############################################################
From: jm041536@fhda.edu (Joaquin Menchaca) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 noboot Date: 21 Dec 1996 02:34:31 GMT Organization: De Anza College Message-ID: <jm041536-2012961830080001@mencjo.apple.com> References: <E2pyno.LoF@news.cern.ch> In article <E2pyno.LoF@news.cern.ch>, lerche@nxth04.cern.ch (Wolfgang Lerche) wrote: > Hello, > > I was trying to install NS3.3 on an Intel > VS440FX with an Adaptec2940UW controller. > I have both an Toshiba ADAPI CD-ROM > and also the NeXT SONY SCSI CD-ROM to play with. > > After following the instrutions, booting > from the floppy, I always get: > Adaptec2940: cannot get configSpace: ABORTING > no SCSI drive or CD ROM found. > > Can somebody tell what to do here ? > I remember reading somewhere, do not know where, that you need to have the installation SCSI drive on SCSI ID 0. The SCSI CDROM must be on SCSI ID 1. Hope this helps. Also make sure during boot up, the Adaptec ROM reports the existant of those devices. -- ############################################################### # My opinions are my own and not of any I work for. # ############################################################### # WARNING: DO NOT send unwarranted mail or SPAMS! Further # # proceedings of sending unwarranted email or spams will # # result in fines up to $1000 in damages. # ###############################################################
From: "Island Graphics" <dimitri@island.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SUN monitor with NeXT color station? Date: 21 Dec 1996 00:48:17 GMT Organization: Island Graphics Message-ID: <01bbeed9$5b3b56b0$565604c7@sagnt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to use SUN monitors with NeXT color station?
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation without fan? Date: 20 Dec 1996 23:38:21 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <59f81d$ndp@news.next.com> References: <59caso$5r3@vespucci.iquest.com> In article <59caso$5r3@vespucci.iquest.com> chris@vespucci.iquest.com (Chris Fisher) writes: > Can a mono nextstation turbo run without the fan? How long does this > shorten the lifespan by? The fan in mine is incredibly loud and no amount > of cleaning seems to help. > Down to about 30 minutes... Seriously, it depends on the environment. The mono Turbo box generates about 100 watts of heat. If it's standing alone, with nothing on the box, in a 68 degree ambient space, the internals will remain barely within thermal limits. If you've got a (literally) hotter disk drive than the original, or an old drive, you may push things past the limit. What could fail? The power supply, the disk drive, or the 68040 are likely candidates. You might want to check out whether the fan or the disk drive is the real noise source. Also, the surface the machine is placed on can have an effect. I put a thin layer of stiff foam (similar to mousepad material) under a machine and it got significantly quieter. Look for sources of acoustic reflection behind the machine near the exhaust port. Try setting something there to absorb sound without blocking airflow. -- Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. "May you live in interesting times." - Old Chinese curse
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: I need your help Date: 21 Dec 1996 04:12:41 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Distribution: pgh Message-ID: <59fo3p$m8j@dropit.pgh.net> I am attempting to limit distribution on this to Pitsburgh, PA. If it gets outside, please accept my apology. I previously posted this to pgh-next-users, but I am not sure how many people read this group. I have an OD problem. Until I hear different, I am going to assume I will have to spend a lot of money to fix it. Therefore, if you have access to a working OD and are willing to help me, I need to get the critical info off about three ODs and write it onto 4mm DAT tape. I have a DAT drive and can bring it with me. If you can help, e-mail me at home (me@venetia.pgh.pa.us) with your phone number and I will call you. This is important and I can pretty much fit it to your schedule. I have some vacation between Chritsmas and New Year, or I can do it evenings or weekends. It is up to you. Thanks, Bob ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
From: Zachery Joseph Bir <zbir@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: setting stty higher than 38400? Date: 20 Dec 1996 17:39:45 -0500 Organization: Very little Message-ID: <mbtsp507scu.fsf@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> So I can use, say 115200 with my 33.6 modem? Thanks, Zac -- Zachery J. Bir - zbir@indiana.edu http://seven.ucs.indiana.edu/~zbir/index.html
From: afuchs@ais.net (Allister Fuchs) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How do I use a NeXT Dimension board? Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 10:33:42 GMT Organization: American Information Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <32bbbc6d.866346@news.ais.net> I just recently picked up a Color Turbo with something called a NeXT Dimension board (with 16 megs onboard). Unfortunatly none of the Next technical manuals make any reference to the dimension board. Can anyone email me some info on the board or point me in the right direction? Is this board a good thing? Thanks Allister aaf@ais.net
From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can of OpenStep hardware worms Date: 21 Dec 1996 11:26:03 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <59ha3r$dr0@xmission.xmission.com> How soon can I start buying NextIntoshes? My department at work will go NUTS running our apps on a Mac. With the acquisition of NeXT, will OpenStep for Intel go away? Or will OS/I keep up with the latest and greatest hardware? Will the Mac's on-board video subsystems be able to support OpenStep apps well (i.e., no submarining windows, etc.)? Or will I have to buy a Matrox or Number Nine card for decent performance. Will Mac clone manufacturers support NextStep? (Wow! what a thought.) Will I be able to load NextStep on any modern Mac, including a PowerBook? Will I be able to run NextStep on a Quadra? Inquiring Minds Want to Know. ................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Recommendation for quiet hard drive Date: 21 Dec 96 15:14:19 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.96Dec21151419@howard.one.net> References: <59ebr6$6mc@News.Dal.Ca> <59ectn$ot2@garfield.iaxs.net> <59f0un$iie@news.digifix.com> In-reply-to: sanguish@digifix.com's message of 20 Dec 1996 21:37:27 GMT In article <59f0un$iie@news.digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: On 12/20/96, David Young wrote: >Kirk Haller (haller@gosling.cs.dal.ca) wrote: >: I was wondering if people have any recommendations for a good >: quiet internal hard drive. I'm thinking of something in the 1G >: range. > >i just dropped a seagate 2.1GB hawk (st32430n) in my turbocolor, >and it's silent. i mean, like, *really* silent. i was doing many >concurrent disk operations and i couldn't hear a thing. ymmv. While I didn't pony up the bucks for a 2.1 Gb hawk, the 1 Gb Hawk is also very quiet, much nicer to work around. Same here, though I do have a 2G version in a different (faster) machine. I just couldn't justify putting a 2G drive in a machine which maxes out at 1.6MB/s reading. The 1G drive isn't any slower (OK, mine was, but not that much), but it's certainly cheaper! If you do get a drive, and don't plan to take it out of the station _too_ soon, you might want to shave some bucks by getting a non-Ultra version. Doesn't make any difference for the drives performance, just for the bus utilization. Stations can't even do fill an original SCSI bus at 3MB/s, Fast SCSI-II or Ultra are somewhat of a waste. But who sells slow-SCSI drives anymore (what would be the point)? OTOH, if you plan to move the drive to a faster machine later, Ultra might be worthwhile. Just keep in mind that in a year or so, you won't be that interested in a 1G drive of any sort, so you might just leave it in the station. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: rraman@site.gmu.edu (Ravishankar Ramanathan (CSI)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Advice on Hard Disk for Black Hardware Date: 20 Dec 1996 06:37:01 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <59dc6d$tc8@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I'm planning to put a bigger hard drive (greater than or equal to 2GB.) Any advice on what to look for? In particular, I would like to receive comments/ suggestions on: Size: (Is >2GB a problem - I plan to install OpenStep 4.0 on a NeXT Turbo) Speed: (7200 rpm? it is going to be an internal hard drive) Make: (What to makes move away from. Also, I currently have an Apple 1GB Hard drive on my PowerMac - can I use this? This drive has its own firmware from Apple ...) Sectors: Cache: I would greatly appreciate any input! TIA. -Ravi
From: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! od: empty q Date: 21 Dec 1996 21:43:55 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <59hlmr$7es@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <591kvb$8j3@news.fsu.edu> <59cji7$79q@lll-winken.llnl.gov> In-Reply-To: <59cji7$79q@lll-winken.llnl.gov> On 12/19/96, Dave S. Bailey wrote: >In article <591kvb$8j3@news.fsu.edu> Peter S. Lakanen ><lakanen@cmr.fsu.edu> writes: > <snip> >> panic: (Cpu 0) od: empty q >> NeXT ROM Monitor 2.5 v66 >> panic: NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:56:37 PDT 1994; >root(rcbuilder):mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K >> >> I have never seen this before. Can anyone help me >> this problem? >> > >Since I just had this happen to me, I can tell you that it's >definitely an OD failure. Disconnecting the OD will allow the >boot to complete normally (minus the OD). I don't know what >the problem is, though. > Looks like the OD is dead. Try cleaning it but I don`t think it will work better. Francois -- ______________________________________________________ Francois Magnan Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques Universite de Montreal email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Recommendation for quiet hard drive Date: 21 Dec 1996 17:59:52 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <59htlo$6e2@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> References: <59ebr6$6mc@News.Dal.Ca> <59ectn$ot2@garfield.iaxs.net> <59f0un$iie@news.digifix.com> <SHESS.96Dec21151419@howard.one.net> In article <SHESS.96Dec21151419@howard.one.net>, Scott Hess <shess@one.net> wrote: > [...] > Same here, though I do have a 2G version in a different (faster) > machine. I just couldn't justify putting a 2G drive in a machine > which maxes out at 1.6MB/s reading. The 1G drive isn't any slower > (OK, mine was, but not that much), but it's certainly cheaper! > > If you do get a drive, and don't plan to take it out of the station > _too_ soon, you might want to shave some bucks by getting a non-Ultra > version. Doesn't make any difference for the drives performance, just > for the bus utilization. Stations can't even do fill an original SCSI > bus at 3MB/s, Fast SCSI-II or Ultra are somewhat of a waste. But who > [...] I totally agree with Scott on getting not so bleeding edge drives for your black machines. I'd strongly suggest the folks who are currently looking for a bigger drive to take a look at the following two bargains: * Quantum Fireball TM3200 3.2GB SCSI3/RPM4511/10.5ms avg access In stock at NECX (www.necx.com) for $380 + $5 UPS ground. Ordered mine 3 days ago and now it's up and running as an external on my 040 slab. NS3.3 recognized and autoconfigured it at 3040MB. Quiet and fast enough. Folks, this is a _hunk_ of cheap disk space. It's third height and runs luke warm, which makes it a good candidate for an internal. * IBM Ultrastar ES 2.1GB SCSI2/RPM5400/8.5ms Two week backlog at NECX for $340 + $5 UPS ground. Ordered a month ago, autoconfigured by NS3.3 on a turbo slab. Fast and warm, has been internal in the slab for 2 weeks. The Fireball comes with a 3-year warranty and the IBM 5. For $720 (IBM+Fireball) I get 5.3GB of diskspace, whereas a 2.1GB barracuda will cost that much. I don't know enough about NeXT's SCSI interface to confirm Scott's assertion about its max throughput, though I suspect it should be true since it's asyncronous mode only. I don't really have many heavy I/O bound processes in the daily routine, and for me those drives are certainly fast enough. So, if you're in a similar situation, I suggest you check out these two drives first. liuyi P.S. I'm just an occasional customer of NECX, which sometimes has the best price on bigger SCSI drives. BTW, I think www.pricewatch.com has become just another sponsored electronic billboard and a mere shadow of its former self. Their price listings are outdated and do not include many of the better mail order shops. Do you have to pay to get listed now? -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@anet-dfw.com> | <liuyi@usa.net> Dallas, TX
From: roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoundBlaster "compatible" cards on NS3.3i? Date: 22 Dec 1996 00:32:13 GMT Organization: NETCOM On-Line Communications Services Message-ID: <59hvid$s96@nntp1.netcom.com> References: <59eolf$19t@crcnis3.unl.edu> Rex Dieter writes > > In my experience, only REAL Soundblasters work with NeXT's SoundBlaster > driver. Go figure. > > Then again, you're welcome to prove me wrong. Make sure you have the most > up-to-date drivers from NeXT: (http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/) > EISABus version 3.35 (there's an updated one for OS4 too) > SoundBlaster16 version 3.34 (ditto) > Need to 2nd that, unfortunately. I tried 2 different SB compatible cards (can't recall exact models) and neither one worked. Finally broke down and bought a 'real' SB card. Works fine under OS/NS. roland
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice on Hard Disk for Black Hardware Date: 21 Dec 96 21:07:53 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.96Dec21210753@howard.one.net> References: <59dc6d$tc8@portal.gmu.edu> In-reply-to: rraman@site.gmu.edu's message of 20 Dec 1996 06:37:01 GMT In article <59dc6d$tc8@portal.gmu.edu>, rraman@site.gmu.edu (Ravishankar Ramanathan (CSI)) writes: I'm planning to put a bigger hard drive (greater than or equal to 2GB.) Any advice on what to look for? In particular, I would like to receive comments/ suggestions on: Size: (Is >2GB a problem - I plan to install OpenStep 4.0 on a NeXT Turbo) Your best bet is to keep it somewhat under 2.1G, so that things are handled without any of the workarounds. OS4.0 is supposed to handle it, but it does it by partitioning the disk. Not that that's a big problem, but if the difference between 2G and 2.5G isn't a big deal, I'd go with 2G just for the simpler administration. Speed: (7200 rpm? it is going to be an internal hard drive) Do _not_ get a 7200 rpm drive for a station! First off, it will be much too hot for your station. Beyond that, though, stations are not the greatest SCSI performers, because they only implement an older version of SCSI. For the same 5400rpm drive, I get 1.6MB/s read in my station, I got 3.5MB/s on an Intel-based machine with a new SCSI card. 7200rpm will be _way_ overkill. [Heck, 5400rpm is probably pushing it, but I put the new drive in due to heat and noise, not speed.] Make: (What to makes move away from. Also, I currently have an Apple 1GB Hard drive on my PowerMac - can I use this? This drive has its own firmware from Apple ...) I would stay away from Micropolis and Fujitsu, though many people have good luck with them. I know that Scott Anguish would recommend staying away from Quantum. Personally, I have five Seagate drives right now, one of them is five years old and still being used (albeit for storing CD-ROM images). I think a Fast-SCSI-II Seagate Hawk would be a good fit. Save the money and don't get the Ultra-SCSI interface _unless_ you plan to later move the drive to some other machine. Keep in mind that "later" is probably a year or so, in two years you won't care about some slow old 2G drive anyhow! Really, you probably want to look mainly at seek times, and size/noise/heat characteristics. A low-profile drive which doesn't sound like it's trying to escape is always a good bet. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: ktchan <ktchan@hk.gin.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 noboot Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 02:14:16 +0800 Organization: Global Information Networks (Hong Kong), Public Internet Access. Message-ID: <32BC28F8.65E4@hk.gin.net> References: <E2pyno.LoF@news.cern.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Wolfgang Lerche <lerche@nxth04.cern.ch> Wolfgang Lerche wrote: > > Hello, > > I was trying to install NS3.3 on an Intel > VS440FX with an Adaptec2940UW controller. > I have both an Toshiba ADAPI CD-ROM > and also the NeXT SONY SCSI CD-ROM to play with. > > After following the instrutions, booting > from the floppy, I always get: > Adaptec2940: cannot get configSpace: ABORTING > no SCSI drive or CD ROM found. > > Can somebody tell what to do here ? > > Thanks ! > > W. Lerche > CERN > lerche@nxth04.cern.ch Hi I have the same card. I have to install the 3.3 to the hard disk with a nomal 2940 card. and then replace the driver by installing the upgarde package fron NeXT the latest driver for 2940 that works with the 2940UW and reboot with the new card. Regards K.T.Chan
From: "Art Taylor" <reeses@blarg.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fixed Frequency Monitors Date: 22 Dec 1996 06:39:21 GMT Organization: The Fartino Crime Family Message-ID: <01bbf016$39114340$53b48e8c@ennui.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: reeses I was wondering if anyone has managed to get a Fixed-frequency monitor (in my case a Sun/Sony GDM-1662B) working with a Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM PCI under OpenStep (4.0). It doesn't look like I have fine enough access to the video timing, but I assume there is a way to make everything happy. Anyway, if anyone has an idea on this, please drop me a line. If I find a solution, I'll summarize for the group. Thanks! -a.
From: edx@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: sdform makes disk unusable - 0 usable sectors! Message-ID: <1996Dec21.233048.90879@cc.usu.edu> Date: 21 Dec 96 23:30:48 MDT Organization: Utah State University I have a 4Gig Seagate ST15150W which I was preparing to format with 2 2Gig partitions for NS. As per the instructions in NeXTanswers 1533, I first did a "sdform /dev/rsd1a". About half an hour later, it choked with an error I failed to write down. Now, when I attempt the same command, it gives: Read Capacity command failed I/O error scsimodes gives this result for the drive: > peyote:2# scsimodes /dev/rsd1a > read capacity failed > SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a > Drive type: SEAGATE ST15150W 002000 > 512 bytes per sector > 108 sectors per track > 21 tracks per cylinder > 3712 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) > 9 spare sectors per cylinder > 21 alternate tracks per volume > 0 usable sectors on volume Ack! It says 0 usable sectors on volume, when it should say 8388314 usable sectors. Any idea why, and how this can be remedied? Oh, SCSI_Inquirer gives the most detailed information when the Information button is clicked for the drive: > sr_io_status = 2, sr_scsi_status = 2, dma_xfer = 0, dma_max = 8 > Bytes Transferred: 0 of max: 8 > Driver Status: Check target status and extended sense > Target Status: CHECK CONDITION - Abnormal condition occured > Extended Sense: Media flaw Please! Any help getting this drive back into a usable condition would be appreciated. hcole@spanky.idec.sdl.usu.edu
From: john@getafix.demon.co.uk (John Shirlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color inkjet on black hardware? Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 23:25:13 GMT Message-ID: <851297113.20608.2@getafix.demon.co.uk> References: <59bf11$odb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Cc: jdevlin@umich.edu In <59bf11$odb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu wrote: > Hello, > > I didn't see this one in the FAQ's, but I remember a discussion years ago > about hooking up postscript printers to the serial port on black hardware. > Does it "just work" or is it more involved than that? I seem to remember > that it might be very slow. Is that right? Is that the only problem? > > I love my NeXT laser printer, but color inkjets are so cheap now ... it's > tempting to add one on. > > Many thanks for your input ... > > Best, > > > You could try connecting it via one of HP's JetDirect boxes....rather than the serial port. john.
From: john@getafix.demon.co.uk (John Shirlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstation - Adding RAM Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 23:28:30 GMT Message-ID: <851297310.20608.3@getafix.demon.co.uk> References: <joel-1312961429170001@mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net> Cc: joel@fefcful.org In <joel-1312961429170001@mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net> Joel Lingenfelter wrote: > I had my NeXT apart one day, and found that I couldn't remove the RAM. I > have been contemplating moving this thing up to 20 or 32 MB, but don't > have any idea how to get the current memory out. Help anyone? > > Joel > > | Joel Lingenfelter > -=+=- > | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be > | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a > what sort of NeXT machine do you have? john.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Date: 23 Dec 1996 00:02:50 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <587851299369@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.asu.edu!jak From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Info on NeXT hardware? Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 22:48:30 -0700 Organization: Arizona State University Lines: 11 Message-ID: <jak-ya023680002212962248300001@news.asu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp1-07.inre.asu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.3.6 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:45887 comp.sys.next.hardware:26260 comp.sys.next.misc:23669 Could anyone point me to the best resources for info about all NeXT hardware? Web or otherwise. thanks john --- - ------- ------- Music is a higher revelation than philosophy. - Beethoven jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/
From: ajetha@ghalib.eric.on.ca (Alykhan Jetha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Has anyone been able to run NS3.3 or OS for Mach on Toshiba 500 CDT Date: 23 Dec 1996 16:23:27 GMT Organization: Interlynx Message-ID: <59mblv$eef@roger.interlynx.net> Keywords: laptop, toshiba I'm looking to purchase a laptop and I was looking at the Toshiba 500 CDT and the NEC Versa 6030x. Has anyone been able to run either NS3.3 or OpenStep for Mach 4.1 on these machines?? I looked in NeXTANSWERS and found nothing pertaining to there two models. Regards! Alykhan Jetha (AJ) Visible Genetics Inc. P.S. Could you please CC your message to ajetha@visgen.com -- thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How do I use a NeXT Dimension board? Message-ID: <E2vHHx.8KC@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32bbbc6d.866346@news.ais.net> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 15:25:08 GMT In article <32bbbc6d.866346@news.ais.net> afuchs@ais.net (Allister Fuchs) writes: > I just recently picked up a Color Turbo with something called a NeXT > Dimension board (with 16 megs onboard). Unfortunatly none of the Next > technical manuals make any reference to the dimension board. > > Can anyone email me some info on the board or point me in the right > direction? Is this board a good thing? > The ND is a frame grabber for the NeXT cube and also provides dual head capability to NEXTSTEP. There is not many documentation available (besides what came with the original package). Some software specially related to the ND comes with the Demo package. Most valuable will be the FAQ on Peanuts and (probably) NeXTAnswers on <www.next.com>. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: IBM PC ram on NeXTStation Message-ID: <E2vHtD.8L2@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <AEE3F3F1-F7D0@130.102.138.27> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 15:32:01 GMT In article <AEE3F3F1-F7D0@130.102.138.27> "Simon Chih-L Han" <s124177@student.uq.edu.au> writes: > Dear News Reader, > > Can I install ordinary PC ram on a black NeXTStation? > That depends on what you consider "ordinary PC ram" and what kind of "NeXTStation" you are referring to. But in any type of station is a kind of SIMM that used to show up in some kind of PC at some time. The older use 1M or 4Mx8 30 pin SIMM, the newer ones use 72 pin "PS/2" SIMM. Details in the FAQ on peanuts.leo.org. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Newbe: needs info on connecting Modem ... ? Message-ID: <E2vIAx.8Lq@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <Pine.OSF.3.91.961216024359.16962I-100000@osf1.gmu.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 15:42:33 GMT In article <Pine.OSF.3.91.961216024359.16962I-100000@osf1.gmu.edu> Arman A Anwar <aanwar@osf1.gmu.edu> writes: > Hello, > > I just acquired a Next turbo .. > > is it possible to connect a PC type modem to it ?? > If you mean a internal ISA-bus card, the answer is obviously no. But if you meant a ordinary name brand (AT&T compatible) modem like any other PC user has, the answer is affirmatively yes. You only need the right cable (both the man-pages and the DL online manual tell you what the right one looks like) and probably some software, PD or commercial (both to be found on Peak or Peanuts). If you want FAX support get NXfax and then see which modems are supported. If you just want PPP/SLIP, UUCP, kermit, or somethimg of the like take any modem that you run into. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NeXT Daydream on Ethernet Message-ID: <E2vIoH.8MH@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32B6D8A0.69E5@denebcorp.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 15:50:41 GMT In article <32B6D8A0.69E5@denebcorp.com> deneb@denebcorp.com writes: > Anyone using a Daydream Macintosh on an ethernet network? > > Only recently, have I needed to connect my Cube to a 10Base-T network > to exchange files with other Macintosh machines. I am able to telnet > from other machines to my Cube running NeXTStep, so I am fairly sure I > don't have a problem with hardware. > > However, when I try to access AppleShare file servers from the Chooser > in the Macintosh environment, I don't SEE any servers. I have tried > installing the network resources from Macintosh 7.5 install disks, but > that did not help. > Although I don't run a networked Daydream (mine is standalone) I have seen them running in a quite extensive Phase 2 network without problems. They should behave like any EtherTalk equipment. Although you gave no details about your network environment it looks like a EtherTalk setup problem to me. Probably a macOS news group issue? -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: setting stty higher than 38400? Message-ID: <E2vJ7w.8nF@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <mbtsp507scu.fsf@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:02:20 GMT In article <mbtsp507scu.fsf@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> Zachery Joseph Bir <zbir@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> writes: > So I can use, say 115200 with my 33.6 modem? > Only in some very special case. Not for any executables in the NS User distribution. Yes for software you have in source code and know how to link to the features of advanced UARTS (since NS 3.3 Dev) and not for black hardware, unless you got a ttydsp. 115200 will only work with clock multiplying UARTS for NSfIP setups, though. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Tilted B/W monitor of NeXTstation. Message-ID: <E2vJLv.8o3@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <u74thhwmir.fsf@mch2ws1.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:10:43 GMT In article <u74thhwmir.fsf@mch2ws1.tuwien.ac.at> Alois Steindl <asteindl@mch2ws1.tuwien.ac.at> writes: > Hello, > some days ago I noticed that the screen image on my B/W monitor > (bought 1991) looks tilted (about 1cm across the horizontal). > > I couldn't find any device to correct that. > Can I correct the problem myself or do I have to ask some > servicepersons? > Could this problem maybe be an indication of aging problems? I just > bought additional memory for the station and really would like to keep > it for some longer time, since it works really fine. > Looks like the deflection coil assembly shook loose. If, AND ONLY IF!, you know how to handle a life TV set you could open the case and try to readjust the deflection coil assembly (mechanically turn it and refasten). This is a rather easy stunt for any TV technician. But beware, high voltage, even with the power turned off. It hurts badly, and if you're very unlucky it could possibly kill you! -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Dale Pippert <dpippert@taratec.com> Organization: Taratec Development Corporation MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to buy memory chips for black h/w? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32bec99e.0@news.dca.net> Date: 23 Dec 96 18:04:14 GMT Where do I buy 30 pin SIMMS, 4MB x 8, for my black machine. Need 8 of them @ 100ns. Thanks dpippert@taratec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: forakis.n.g@postal.essd.northgrum.com (Nick Forakis) Subject: NeXt FAQ Message-ID: <E2vp25.4w1%mother@mdnews.md.essd.northgrum.com> Sender: news%mother@mdnews.md.essd.northgrum.com Organization: Northrop Grumman Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 18:08:53 GMT I keep reading in this group that there exists a FAQ for NeXT Stations. Can anyone tell me where this exists? Thanks, Nick .__________________________________________. /\__/\ | Nick Forakis | / O O\_| forakis.n.g-@postal.essd.northgrum.com | / \ tel: (410) 712-1015 | / \ \ fax: (410) 712-1362 | / _ \ \_______________________________________| / |\____\ \ || / | | | |\____/ || / \| | | |/ | _|| / / \ ------- |_____| || / | | | __) | | | |_____ __) | |_|_|_| | \___) /\ | !! / /\ | / / / | | | ___/ / | | | !____/ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c
Message-ID: <32BF2647.3273@ebs.ac.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 18:39:35 -0600 From: Eric Ulmer <ulmerer@ebs.ac.com> Organization: ServiceNet, LLC. Andersen/BBN MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: any black box suggestions for newbie? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm considering buying a used black box from a reseller. What models are generally better/most compatible and most expandible? Which ones fry the most, etc? anyone have any opinions? I dont really need color, and I have 2 (70ns, 16mb parity) and 2 (32mb 60ns non-parity) SIMMS, a Segate 1gb hawk drive, a nakamichi 7bay cdrom jukebox, and a few toshiba cdrom drives I thought I might try and use. Will any of this stuff work, with a next box do you think?
From: jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: VIRUS ALERT Date: Tue, 24 Dec 96 01:21:04 GMT Organization: RHAHMM Message-ID: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM Subject: Virus Alert Importance: High If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL GREETINGS! ; please delete it WITHOUT reading it. Below is a little explanation of the message, and what it would do to your PC if you were to read the message. This is a warning for all internet users - there is a dangerous virus propagating across the internet through an e-mail message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!". DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GREETING!." This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is too late. The "trojan horse" virus will have already infected the boot sector of your hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It is a self-replicating virus, and once the message is read , it will AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is present in your mailbox! This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds the potential to DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your inbox, and who's mail is in their inbox, and so on. If this virus remains unchecked, it has the potential to do a great deal of DAMAGE to computer networks worldwide!!!! Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL GREETING!' as soon as you see it! And pass this message along to all of your friends and relatives, and the other readers of the newsgroups and mailing list which you are on, so that they are not hurt by this dangerous virus!!!! --------- End forwarded message ----------
From: bbq@wam.umd.edu (BBQ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: 23 Dec 1996 22:16:24 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <59nhu8$1vd@rac10.wam.umd.edu> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> lovely, another pointless scare. and the best thing is look where this is cross posted to, all the groups where the people actually know something, mostly unix groups, uh yeah, I'm not root on the unix pc I am telnetting into from the machine I am not root on, which I called into from home, yeah, right format hard drive, whatever, pretty amazing to work with all email programs to find your address list. Sorry to crosspost response like this, but these are just silly. bbq In article <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net>, Little John <jmh@intrepid.net> wrote: >Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded >Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM > >Subject: Virus Alert >Importance: High > >If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL >GREETINGS! ; please delete it >WITHOUT reading it. Below is a little explanation of >the message, and what it would do to your PC if you >were to read the message. > >This is a warning for all internet users - there is a >dangerous virus propagating across the internet >through an e-mail message entitled "PENPAL >GREETINGS!". DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY >MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GREETING!." > >This message appears to be a friendly letter asking >you if you are interested in a penpal, but by the time >you read this letter, it is too late. The "trojan horse" >virus will have already infected the boot sector of your >hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It is a >self-replicating virus, and once the message is read , it >will >AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's >e-mail address is present in >your mailbox! > >This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds >the potential to >DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in >your inbox, and who's mail is in their inbox, and so on. >If this virus remains unchecked, it has the potential to >do a great deal of DAMAGE to computer networks >worldwide!!!! > >Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL >GREETING!' as soon as you see it! >And pass this message along to all of your friends >and relatives, and the other readers of the >newsgroups and mailing list which you are on, so >that they are not hurt by this dangerous virus!!!! >--------- End forwarded message ---------- >
From: John Szumowski <harpo@javanet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 22:33:16 -0500 Organization: JavaNet Cafe, Northampton, Massachusetts Message-ID: <32BF4EFC.27AB@javanet.com> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Little John wrote: > > Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded > Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM > > Subject: Virus Alert > Importance: High > > If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL > GREETINGS! ; please delete it > WITHOUT reading it. Below is a little explanation of > the message, and what it would do to your PC if you > were to read the message. > > This is a warning for all internet users - there is a > dangerous virus propagating across the internet > through an e-mail message entitled "PENPAL > GREETINGS!". DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY > MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GREETING!." > > This message appears to be a friendly letter asking > you if you are interested in a penpal, but by the time > you read this letter, it is too late. The "trojan horse" > virus will have already infected the boot sector of your > hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It is a > self-replicating virus, and once the message is read , it > will > AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's > e-mail address is present in > your mailbox! bullshit. > > This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds > the potential to > DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in > your inbox, and who's mail is in their inbox, and so on. > If this virus remains unchecked, it has the potential to > do a great deal of DAMAGE to computer networks > worldwide!!!! > > Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL > GREETING!' as soon as you see it! > And pass this message along to all of your friends > and relatives, and the other readers of the > newsgroups and mailing list which you are on, so > that they are not hurt by this dangerous virus!!!! > --------- End forwarded message ---------- this may be a naive question, but how could just *downloading* a file cause trouble? it seems like, for most viri that i've heard of, they have to be executed...this whole post sounds bogus to me. -- =-------------------------------------------------------------------= ((___)) John Szumowski - harpo@javanet.com ((___)) [ x x ] =---------------------------------------------------= [ x x ] \ / The Internet, of course, is more than just a place \ / (' ') to find pictures of people having sex with dogs. (' ') (U) --Time Magazine, 3 July 1995 (U) =-------------------------------------------------------------------=
From: JOSE_M@internetMCI.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: 24 Dec 1996 03:55:51 GMT Organization: InternetMCI Message-ID: <59nk87$a7o@news.internetmci.com> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That message don't make any since.....<scratching head> all e-mail is text only... how can you hide a binary file in ascii format??? you can't unless that tag a file with a text and then you have to run i manualy...... anyway... even if that's the case... I have a bios that tell's me if a program is trying to access my boot secter... and stops it if i conferm to stop it.
From: mtm@insync.net (Michael Murphy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: Tue, 24 Dec 96 04:41:54 GMT Organization: Insync Internet Services Message-ID: <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> What is this? Another "Good Time's Virus" scare? This is crazy. Email can't contain a virus. Maybe a binary attachment, but then you have to actually run it. Someday these people will learn.... In article <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net>, jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) wrote: >Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded >Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM > >Subject: Virus Alert >Importance: High > >If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL >GREETINGS! ; please delete it >WITHOUT reading it. Below is a little explanation of >the message, and what it would do to your PC if you >were to read the message. > >This is a warning for all internet users - there is a >dangerous virus propagating across the internet >through an e-mail message entitled "PENPAL >GREETINGS!". DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY >MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GREETING!." > >This message appears to be a friendly letter asking >you if you are interested in a penpal, but by the time >you read this letter, it is too late. The "trojan horse" >virus will have already infected the boot sector of your >hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It is a >self-replicating virus, and once the message is read , it >will >AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's >e-mail address is present in >your mailbox! > >This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds >the potential to >DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in >your inbox, and who's mail is in their inbox, and so on. >If this virus remains unchecked, it has the potential to >do a great deal of DAMAGE to computer networks >worldwide!!!! > >Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL >GREETING!' as soon as you see it! >And pass this message along to all of your friends >and relatives, and the other readers of the >newsgroups and mailing list which you are on, so >that they are not hurt by this dangerous virus!!!! >--------- End forwarded message ---------- >
From: jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> Control: cancel <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> Date: 24 Dec 1996 04:54:27 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <59nnm3$2u6@news3.texas.net> cancel
From: Michael Mislove <mwm@math.tulane.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Pentium Pro Choice Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 23:03:21 -0600 Organization: Tulane University Message-ID: <32BF6419.63A5@math.tulane.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: mwm@math.tulane.edu I am about to upgrade my aging NeXTstation with a Pentium Pro 200-based machine. I'm looking at fairly high-end machines, and would like any advice anyone has to offer about running NeXTSTEP / OpenStep on the following machines: Dell Dimension XPS Pro Dell Optiflex Pro Gateway G6-200XL Micron Millennium Pro 2 Plus Thanks in advance! Mike Mislove
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Pentium Pro Choice Date: 24 Dec 1996 05:15:46 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <59nou2$3ac@news.digifix.com> References: <32BF6419.63A5@math.tulane.edu> In-Reply-To: <32BF6419.63A5@math.tulane.edu> On 12/23/96, Michael Mislove wrote: >I am about to upgrade my aging NeXTstation with a Pentium Pro >200-based machine. I'm looking at fairly high-end machines, and would >like any advice anyone has to offer about running NeXTSTEP / OpenStep >on the following machines: > Dell Dimension XPS Pro > Dell Optiflex Pro > Gateway G6-200XL > Micron Millennium Pro 2 Plus >Thanks in advance! >Mike Mislove > Well the Dell machines are supposed to be quite nice. I personally like machines that have standard components, and a real company behind them. I recently purchased a new PPro 200 machine after several weeks of looking. In the end I bought based on price. I found a source for Digital Equipment Corp Celebris GL ST6200, CD, 2Gb IDE drive, 32 Mb RAM, Matrox video, on board network interface, sound card... $2500 US.. I don't see any reason why NS wouldn't run on it, I'm running NS on a Dec Celebris GLST133 similarly configured, and its quite nice. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
Message-ID: <32BF7B80.2981@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 23:43:12 -0700 From: Patrick Earl <patearl@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> Organization: Advantage Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to buy memory chips for black h/w? Date: 25 Dec 1996 01:03:27 GMT Organization: Squonk-Net, Loudonville, NY 12211 Message-ID: <59pugv$4kg@duke.squonk.net> References: <32bec99e.0@news.dca.net> Dale Pippert <dpippert@taratec.com> wrote: > Where do I buy 30 pin SIMMS, 4MB x 8, for my black machine. > Need 8 of them @ 100ns. Call up any Mac place. Say you need them for a Mac IIci. That's what I always used to do for the older NeXTstations. It's perfectly fine to buy memory faster than 100ns. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: hannes@ping.at (Hannes Tiefenbrunner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mouse pointer on ELSA dual-head Date: 25 Dec 1996 18:38:59 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <59rsc3$5q0@peng.ping.at> References: <596ni1$4o1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> Originator: hannes@esprit In <596ni1$4o1@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> Chris Saldanha wrote: > I've got a problem on a dual-screen NeXTSTEP system. Sometimes when the > system is running, the mouse pointer disappears and won't come back until the > user logs out and restarts the window server (by logging in as "exit"). > > The mouse still works, but the pointer is gone. > > The cards are ELSA 2000PRO/X 4MB PCI. We are also running ScreenMachine II on > one screen (the primary) and Cub'X on the other. > > Has anyone seen this problem before? > No - but maybe I can offer a more simple workaround than logging out: Start Yap.app (lucky if you have LaunchBar - use WMs 'find' otherwise) Create a new document (COMMAND 'n') Enter 'showcursor' in it Execute it (COMMAND 'E') Or alternatively (if this still works in 4.0): Get a Terminal window enter 'pft' - press RETURN enter 'showcursor' - press RETURN Hope it helps ..J.T. __________________________________ Johannes Tiefenbrunner Software Development & Support NeXT, Mac, SGI & NT hannes@ping.at, NeXTMail & MIME ok For PGP Public Key: finger hannes@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: sdform makes disk unusable - 0 usable sectors! Message-ID: <E2zKno.7Ir@sounds.wa.com> Summary: Use sdformat -b1024 -f Keywords: sdformat Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <1996Dec21.233048.90879@cc.usu.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 20:23:47 GMT In article <1996Dec21.233048.90879@cc.usu.edu>, <edx@cc.usu.edu> wrote: >I have a 4Gig Seagate ST15150W which I was preparing >to format with 2 2Gig partitions for NS. As per the >instructions in NeXTanswers 1533, I first did a >"sdform /dev/rsd1a". About half an hour later, it >choked with an error I failed to write down. Now, >when I attempt the same command, it gives: > >Read Capacity command failed >I/O error I cannot make any guarantees, but you should try using the utility I wrote to replace sdform. It is called sdformat, and can be found at ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/disk/sdformat.1.3.MIHS.tar.gz (don't forget the README there, too). An added bonus is that you can use sdformat to format the drive with 1024 byte sectors, which will increase the capacity and speed of your drive. The NEXTSTEP file system works in 1024 byte allocation chunks anyway, so this is the most efficient format. -- Brian Willoughby Software Design Engineer NeXTmail welcome Sound Consulting BrianW@SoundS.WA.com Bellevue, WA
From: rwcrosby@buffnet.net (Rik Crosby) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: 25 Dec 1996 22:02:06 GMT Organization: BuffNET Message-ID: <59s88u$63f@buffnet2.buffnet.net> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Ya know, if I remember correctly, thi seems to be the EXACT same warning that was floating around with Good Times. In article <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net>, mtm@insync.net says... > >What is this? Another "Good Time's Virus" scare? This is crazy. Email can't >contain a virus. Maybe a binary attachment, but then you have to actually run >it. Someday these people will learn.... > >In article <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net>, jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) wrote: >>Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded >>Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM >> >>Subject: Virus Alert >>Importance: High >> >>If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL >>GREETINGS! ; please delete it >>WITHOUT reading it. Below is a little explanation of >>the message, and what it would do to your PC if you >>were to read the message. >> >>This is a warning for all internet users - there is a >>dangerous virus propagating across the internet >>through an e-mail message entitled "PENPAL >>GREETINGS!". DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY >>MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL GREETING!." >> >>This message appears to be a friendly letter asking >>you if you are interested in a penpal, but by the time >>you read this letter, it is too late. The "trojan horse" >>virus will have already infected the boot sector of your >>hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It is a >>self-replicating virus, and once the message is read , it >>will >>AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone who's >>e-mail address is present in >>your mailbox! >> >>This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and holds >>the potential to >>DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in >>your inbox, and who's mail is in their inbox, and so on. >>If this virus remains unchecked, it has the potential to >>do a great deal of DAMAGE to computer networks >>worldwide!!!! >> >>Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL >>GREETING!' as soon as you see it! >>And pass this message along to all of your friends >>and relatives, and the other readers of the >>newsgroups and mailing list which you are on, so >>that they are not hurt by this dangerous virus!!!! >>--------- End forwarded message ---------- >> -- __ _ _ _ | \| | | | | From the desk of the NiteWing | |\ | |/\| | Richard W. Crosby | http://www.buffnet.net/~rwcrosby/ |_| \_|__/\__| rwcrosby@buffnet.net
From: chanson@mcs.com (Chris Hanson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Q: Setting up NeXTstation from scratch Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 20:15:47 -0600 Organization: McHenryCom Message-ID: <chanson-ya023180002512962015470001@news.mc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm considering buying a system from James Moosmann (see <news:comp.sys.next.marketplace>), which will get me a sweet NeXTstation but no hard drive or OS. I'm pretty much a Mac guy, although I'm a reasonably proficient Unix user (with a teensy bit of admin experience). How does an OS installation on a fresh (brand new) disk work, if it's the only hard drive in the machine? Do I boot off a floppy or CD-ROM and follow the prompts, or will I need to work some serious voodoo to get an OS up and running on the machine? I have no idea if NeXTstations can netboot, or how I would set up one of my Macs as a server for it... I guess what I want to know is whether this will be within my capabilities before I spend my money, espeically since I'm not sure how much documentation the 'station comes with yet. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. Also, if anyone could hazard a guess as to how much NEXTSTEP 3.3 User and NEXTSTEP 3.3 Developer would run me I'd really, really appreciate it. TTFN, Chris -- "I always find myself wondering how people who can't code manage to get through life." -Steve Gifford
From: Dayne Miller <dayne@wolfenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP w/ install of NS 3.3 on Toshiba 425 CDS Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 14:06:55 -0800 Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C. Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.961225135731.20064A-100000@gonzo.wolfenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My desktop is out-of-order for a few weeks while I gradually replace the motherboard and a few other components. So I figured in the meantime I'd load NS on my Toshiba laptop. Well, I get as far as specifying the device to which the CD is installed (Adaptec 154x, per NeXTanswers -- I'm guessing it's standard ATAPI??) and then specifying EIDE/ATAPI for the hard drive. The install then tries to start -- it recognizes the hard disk, but can't find the CD-ROM -- and then panics. Ideas? I can rpovide the exact error messages if necessary. (Note that I have no idea if the C&T display driver will be appropriate for this laptop, and I don't see a driver anywhere for my Megahertz Ethernet/modem combo, so this isn't exactly high priority -- but I thought I'd try.) Unfortunately, I don't have easy access to either a PC Card SCSI adapter or an external SCSI hard drive... And note that Win95 and WinNT 4.0 install and run on this fine [sigh]. WinNT can't seem to use sound, but otherwise works flawlessly. -Dayne Miller dayne@wolfenet.com
From: "Raymond L. Ehrlich" <rehrlich@sprintmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Next printer cable Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 09:49:16 -0500 Organization: Sprint Internet Passport Technical Center - Tampa, Florida Message-ID: <32C2906C.6475@sprintmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if the cable used between the NeXTStation and the Next printer is a straight-through cable (pin 1 to pin 1....) or is it a special cable with swapped pins? Will a standard db-9 to db-9 straight through cable work? Thanks Ray rayehrlich@sprintmail.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <mattj@invisix.com> Subject: Re: My further adventures with Toshiba Tecras Message-ID: <32C2B967.7A71@invisix.com> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:44:07 -0600 References: <59o6qm$457@library.airnews.net> Organization: Invisix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Shawn Lynn wrote: [SNIP] > The screen on my Toshiba Tecra 720CDT failed last week (this is our fourth screen failure > in two months). Toshiba has informed us that the screens are on backorder and will not > be available for at least two months. What do I do in the meantime? They suggested > that I use an external monitor. (It's going to be tricky balancing my 20" Nanao on my > lap.) [SNIP] Anoter little note: a friend of mine has a Toshiba laptop that the top half of the screen went out. He had to fight with them for just over a year to get the screen replaced. There are other intermittant problems now, but the moral of the story is Toshiba is pretty awful to work with... (Putting 2 cents back into pocket) -- Are there Cray-based web servers? Forget Winblows NT. (http://www.invisix.com) Please send me an interesting site to view--I'm bored.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: HELP I can't get it up [Laserwriter IIf that is] Message-ID: <E30qs3.9o0@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <19961225001700.TAA20085@ladder01.news.aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 11:33:39 GMT In article <19961225001700.TAA20085@ladder01.news.aol.com> antonmanor@aol.com (AntonManor) writes: > I have an Apple Laserwriter IIF and I can't get it to work on my > next (black) I tried null modem cable & appletalk cable to port > a & B I tried 2400-9600 baud. Is there anyway i could "see" if > it's connected or the next even "sees" it maybe a unix command > First the cable: wild guessing is not the approach that works. Consult the online manuals about serial line cabling (for instance type 'apropos serial' in a terminal window and look what comes up ;-) Black hardware differs from Macs with respect to serial line pinout, and LocalTalk cables are way off. And yes, you're even supposed to try it manually first. All PS printers use a dialog oriented human readable protocol. Use 'tip' to see whether you get a connection. Try 'cat' to send some test data to the printer... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: David J Harr <wirehead@datadepot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IDEAL Intel system for OPENSTEP development Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 10:27:38 -0800 Organization: Network Intensive Message-ID: <32C2C34E.26BD@datadepot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any kind of a consensus as to what the BEST (or at least REALLY GOOD) set up is for a NS/Intel setup? I'd like to get going on development, and my company is going to foot the bill, so... I am looking for a PPro system with all the bells and whistles. At the same time, I'd really rather not have to play with a bunch of Intel setup crap. If anyone has reccomendations on what the best setup is, then let me know. Email or here in the group is fine... David J Harr game hacker & biker scum Wirehead Systems
From: Rakesh Dubey <rdubey@fountainhead.cisco.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoundBlaster "compatible" cards on NS3.3i? Date: 26 Dec 1996 13:34:06 -0800 Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <nr5ybelkn1t.fsf@Fountainhead.Cisco.com> References: <mbtu3ph6sks.fsf@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> <59eolf$19t@crcnis3.unl.edu> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) writes: > > In article <mbtu3ph6sks.fsf@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> Zachery Joseph Bir > <zbir@jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu> writes: > > My sound card (Avance ALS100) cliams 100% SB16 compatibility. It does > <... (Doesn't work with NEXTSTEP) ... > > > In my experience, only REAL Soundblasters work with NeXT's SoundBlaster > driver. Go figure. > > Then again, you're welcome to prove me wrong. Make sure you have the most > up-to-date drivers from NeXT: (http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/) > EISABus version 3.35 (there's an updated one for OS4 too) > SoundBlaster16 version 3.34 (ditto) > > -- > Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) > Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ > Mathematics and Statistics > University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: antonmanor@aol.com (AntonManor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cheap NextPortable Date: 26 Dec 1996 23:48:52 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961226234701.SAA01418@ladder01.news.aol.com> any ideas on a Next Portable just a basic greyscale. Type letters and send Email with a modem any thoughts
From: antonmanor@aol.com (AntonManor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next & Kodak Camera Date: 26 Dec 1996 23:58:09 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961226235700.SAA01583@ladder01.news.aol.com> any way to get those new digital camera connections to a next (black)
Message-ID: <32C319AD.1C99@ebs.ac.com> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 18:34:53 -0600 From: Eric Ulmer <ulmerer@ebs.ac.com> Organization: ServiceNet, LLC. Andersen/BBN MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Meteor on NeXT? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was poking about looking for 68040 accelerators which only seem to replace the CPU in a computer, and ran across this thing called a Meteor for the MacIntosh. Does anyone know if It'll work in a NeXT box? It says it'll drive a Centris at 40mhz, and the 605/610/700/900/950/650 at 50mhz. I figure since It's only a chip swap for a little addon board, it may work. Anyone know? Didn't find this subject on any FAQs
From: zatezalo.2@osu.edu (Shane) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT slab serial port pinouts?? Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 00:46:47 GMT Organization: Ohio State University Message-ID: <32c41c24.84943640@nntp.service.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone have the NeXT slab serial port pinouts? I'm trying to make a HWHS#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!main.Germany.EU.net!Germany.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!worldnet.att.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.bc.net!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.ucalgary.ca!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!hill From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: NeXT cube can't recognize my opitcal disk Date: 27 Dec 1996 06:21:18 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Lines: 54 Message-ID: <59vpsu$a5l@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <32C0474E.4E0@sprynet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: fsc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca In article <32C0474E.4E0@sprynet.com>, Stephen Tomlin <esty@sprynet.com> wrote: > >------------231D6EFF2B930 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Has anyone ever had the problem where a NeXT cube ('030 running v2.1) >can't seem to recognize the optical disk? If so, any ideas how I might >solve? Could it be a SCSI addressing conflict? Any help greatly >appreciated. > >------------231D6EFF2B930 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > ><HTML><BODY> > ><DT> Has anyone ever had the problem where a NeXT cube ('030 running >v2.1) can't seem to recognize the optical disk? If so, any ideas >how I might solve? Could it be a SCSI addressing conflict? >Any help greatly appreciated.</DT> > ></BODY> ></HTML> >------------231D6EFF2B930-- > Regrettably, most people I know who started with NeXT ODs found that they died. Mine died. It is possible you don't have an appropriate entry in your /etc/disktab file. The correct entry for an '040 cube (same for an '030 AFAIK) is: omd-1|OMD-1|Canon OMD-1:\ :ty=removable_rw_optical:nc#1029:nt#15:ns#16:ss#1024:rm#3000:\ :fp#256:bp#256:ng#154:gs#1600:ga#16:ao#784:\ :os=odmach:z0#80:z1#168:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#243936:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#3:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: If the dirve was working, and now isn't, I suspect it has simply died the death. Good luck. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Looking for someone with a functioning OD Message-ID: <1996Dec25.205726.27858@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 25 Dec 96 20:57:26 GMT Distribution: pgh Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA My OD is acting up and I need to get the contents of about three discs onto DAT tape. If you can help, please let me know. I have a DAT in a shoebox and the necessary cables. All I need is to be able to tar the stuff off the ODs. If by some chance you have a DAT, all the better! I am on vacation between now and New Years and I can probably be available almost any time. Otherwise evenings or weekends are the best bets. However, I can probably figure a way to be available to fit your schedule. Write to me@venetia.pgh.pa us if you can help. Give me your phone number and I will call. Thanks, Bob -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT slab serial port pinouts?? Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 00:39:28 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32C3ED9F.5A87@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <32c41c24.84943640@nntp.service.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: zatezalo.2@osu.edu NeXT Computer Serial Ports Serial ports A and B use 8-pin miniature DIN (MiniDIN-8) connectors. Both ports on a 68040-based NeXT computer are RS-423 compatible; the ports on a 68030-based NeXT computer are RS-422 compatible (though different). The following diagram and table describe the pin configuration of each port: 7 8 6 5 4 3 2 1 (NeXT Computer Serial Port) ---------------------------------------------- Pin Signal Pin Signal ---------------------------------------------- 1 DTR 5 RXD 2 DCD 6 RTS 3 TXD 7 RTXC 4 GND 8 CTS ----------------------------------------------
From: battleaxe@cwc.lsu.edu (Scott Hoppe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: PENPAL GREETINGS! (was Re: VIRUS ALERT) Date: 27 Dec 1996 16:42:06 GMT Organization: The United States Civil War Center Message-ID: <5a0u8u$ck1@hunter.premier.net> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII >In article <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net>, jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) wrote: >>Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded >>Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM >> >>Subject: Virus Alert >>Importance: High >> >>If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL >>GREETINGS! ; please delete it >>WITHOUT reading it. In article <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net>, mtm@insync.net says... > >What is this? Another "Good Time's Virus" scare? This is crazy. Email can't >contain a virus. Maybe a binary attachment, but then you have to actually run >it. Someday these people will learn.... > They completely missed the joke this time, because the original poster didn't use the Subject: 'PENPAL GREETINGS!'. -- -=( Scott )=- Scott Hoppe <battleaxe@cwc.lsu.edu> http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/people/shoppe/staff.htm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Black Next printer cable Message-ID: <E32qGo.9wx@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32C2906C.6475@sprintmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 13:21:59 GMT In article <32C2906C.6475@sprintmail.com> "Raymond L. Ehrlich" <rehrlich@sprintmail.com> writes: > Does anyone know if the cable used between the NeXTStation and the Next > printer is a straight-through cable (pin 1 to pin 1....) or is it a > special cable with swapped pins? Will a standard db-9 to db-9 straight > through cable work? > It is straight through but a "standard" cable might not do! It is a special high speed (about 2 Mbaud) synchronous serial line and is reported to be extensible in integer multiples of the group delay on the cable only. Just my two cents, of course. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Meteor on NeXT? Message-ID: <E32qpq.9xL@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32C319AD.1C99@ebs.ac.com> Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 13:27:26 GMT In article <32C319AD.1C99@ebs.ac.com> writes: > I was poking about looking for 68040 accelerators which only seem > to replace the CPU in a computer, and ran across this thing > called a Meteor for the MacIntosh. Does anyone know if It'll work > in a NeXT box? It says it'll drive a Centris at 40mhz, > and the 605/610/700/900/950/650 at 50mhz. I figure since It's only > a chip swap for a little addon board, it may work. Anyone know? > Didn't find this subject on any FAQs > No, it most likely will not! There's more to a computer architecture than what meets the eye at first glance ;-) The thing will have to consider timing constraints on the system bus. And that has only be done for Macs, not NeXTs. So, if you have some money to waste you can try, otherwise... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Jeffrey J Barbose <barbose@HowLand.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Apple Multiscan on NeXT? FAQ location? Date: 27 Dec 1996 18:42:32 GMT Organization: HowLand Software Distribution: world Message-ID: <5a15ao$4ei@nntp1.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can anyone point me to the FAQ? I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to hook up an Apple Multiscan 17" monitor to a color NeXTstation. Thanks in advance, Jeff -------------------------------------------------------------------- "Conformity is the ape of harmony." - Ralph Waldo Emerson -------------------------------------------------------------------- (c) Copyright Jeffrey J Barbose. All rights reserved. The body of this message may not be reproduced except in direct replies via USENET or email.
From: gcasamen@eos.hitc.com (Greg Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXt FAQ Date: 27 Dec 1996 19:56:32 GMT Organization: Hughes Team (EOSDIS) Message-ID: <5a19lg$1mr@newsroom.hitc.com> References: <E2vp25.4w1%mother@mdnews.md.essd.northgrum.com> Nick Forakis (forakis.n.g@postal.essd.northgrum.com) wrote: : I keep reading in this group that there exists a FAQ for NeXT : Stations. Can anyone tell me where this exists? : Thanks, : Nick You can find the NeXT FAQ at the following location... ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/documents/nextstep_faq/NeXT_FAQ.gz Hope this helps... -- Gregory John Casamento UNIX/NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP C++ Software Engineer No DOS/WINDOWS PLEASE!!! ----=======+++++++ UNIX is the future of computing!!! +++++++=======------
From: gcasamen@eos.hitc.com (Greg Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Pentium Pro Choice Date: 27 Dec 1996 20:12:22 GMT Organization: Hughes Team (EOSDIS) Message-ID: <5a1aj6$1mr@newsroom.hitc.com> References: <32BF6419.63A5@math.tulane.edu> Michael Mislove (mwm@math.tulane.edu) wrote: : I am about to upgrade my aging NeXTstation with a Pentium Pro : 200-based machine. I'm looking at fairly high-end machines, and would : like any advice anyone has to offer about running NeXTSTEP / OpenStep : on the following machines: : Dell Dimension XPS Pro : Dell Optiflex Pro : Gateway G6-200XL : Micron Millennium Pro 2 Plus : Thanks in advance! : Mike Mislove The machine really isn't the issue. Any motherboard will pretty much do it for NEXTSTEP. Make sure that you are NOT using an S3 based video card such as the Diamond Stealth (any one of them). Or a "Sound Blaster Compatible" Sound card. Since you are looking at high end machines I would look at getting a Matrox Millenium video card and a true CreativeLabs SoundBlaster16 audio card. This is the combination I have in my machine (which is a P200 I built myself) and it works as good as, if not better than, my old NeXT Cube *EVER* did. I do still miss my cube sometimes.... Anyway... out of the choices given above I would say that the Gateway is probably the safest bet as they are usually know for putting very good and reliable hardware into thier machines. P.S. By "any motherboard" I mean (single) PPro, Pentium w/ VX or HX chipset, or a '486 (omigod, does it still run on this?? ;) ) -- Gregory John Casamento UNIX/NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP C++ Software Engineer No DOS/WINDOWS PLEASE!!! ----=======+++++++ UNIX is the future of computing!!! +++++++=======------
From: gcasamen@eos.hitc.com (Greg Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color inkjet on black hardware? Date: 27 Dec 1996 20:46:50 GMT Organization: Hughes Team (EOSDIS) Message-ID: <5a1cjq$1mr@newsroom.hitc.com> References: <59bf11$odb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu wrote: : Hello, : I didn't see this one in the FAQ's, but I remember a discussion years ago : about hooking up postscript printers to the serial port on black hardware. : Does it "just work" or is it more involved than that? I seem to remember : that it might be very slow. Is that right? Is that the only problem? : I love my NeXT laser printer, but color inkjets are so cheap now ... it's : tempting to add one on. : Many thanks for your input ... : Best, I am not guaranteeing anything, but this might work. You can go to one of the NeXT ftp sites and pick up the latest version of the GSPrintFilter package. You need to set up ghost script as a print filter to interpret the postscript which nextstep will send to the printer attached to the serial port. Ghostscript provides support for a number of hp printer types and a few cannon printers. I am about to try this myself and I figured that this was more of the answer you were looking for. : John Devlin : Department of Philosophy : The University of Michigan : Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003 Later, -- Gregory John Casamento UNIX/NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP C++ Software Engineer No DOS/WINDOWS PLEASE!!! ----=======+++++++ UNIX is the future of computing!!! +++++++=======------
From: "Raymond L. Ehrlich" <rehrlich@sprintmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Gunzip program Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 16:49:37 -0500 Organization: Sprint Internet Passport Technical Center - Tampa, Florida Message-ID: <32C44471.7B5F@sprintmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any advice on how to download and use a gunzip program when it is gunzipped when you receive it off the net and you are trying to download the the program to be able to gunzip programs? I am using windows95 to download some files off the net so I can load some PPP and Web Browser software for my NextStation so I can make my Black Nextstation a dial-up Internet terminal. Any advice? Thanks, Ray Every human being is a potential friend
From: "Michael Davis" <md444@mis.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openstep????? Date: 26 Dec 1996 23:15:33 GMT Organization: Mikrotec Internet Services, Inc. (MISNet) Message-ID: <01bbf3a2$e43a5420$d8e344cc@home.mis.net> I have the following setup-- AMd K5-100 FIC 2006 motherboard EIDE harddrive and cdrom 32meg ram ATI 3D xpression card Alps Glidepoint Keybrd Zoom .34I modem Will I have to dump any of these to use openstep? Can I get decent speed from my graphics card? What should I expect as far as overall system speed(considering my setup)? ALso, which scanners does openstep support? Printers? What is the best web Broswer to use on openstep?
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can motherboard damage HD? Date: 27 Dec 1996 17:35:05 -0500 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <5a1iup$muu@news.duke.edu> I just bought a used NeXTstation, I am wondering if a defect in the motherboard could be damaging its hard disks. Story is as follows: When I first powered it up, the boot stopped with a message: boot sd(0,0,0) booting SCSI target 1, lun 0 waiting for drive to come ready... READ: sdcmd bad state: 0 short read Can't load blk0 boot NeXT> I powered it down, and back up, and then it hung at: waiting for drive to come ready..............
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: IDEAL Intel system for OPENSTEP development Date: 27 Dec 1996 22:42:21 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5a1jcd$8cd@news.digifix.com> References: <32C2C34E.26BD@datadepot.com> In-Reply-To: <32C2C34E.26BD@datadepot.com> On 12/26/96, David J Harr wrote: >Is there any kind of a consensus as to what the BEST (or at least >REALLY GOOD) set up is for a NS/Intel setup? I'd like to get going >on development, and my company is going to foot the bill, so... > >I am looking for a PPro system with all the bells and whistles. At >the same time, I'd really rather not have to play with a bunch of >Intel setup crap. If anyone has reccomendations on what the best >setup is, then let me know. Email or here in the group is fine... As far as this goes, the DEC Celebris GL6200 has Matrix video on board, Ethernet on board, and the PPro200 version is about $2500 US with 32Mb and a CDROM. I've been running NS on a 133 DEC celebris for months now. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT slab serial port pinouts?? Date: 27 Dec 1996 22:54:08 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-2712961451400001@mfs-annex1-p36.dsphere.net> References: <32c41c24.84943640@nntp.service.ohio-state.edu> >Anyone have the NeXT slab serial port pinouts? Fire up terminal. Type man zs It will give you everything you need. You can print it if you like. Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can NeXT motherboard damage HD? (take two) Date: 27 Dec 1996 18:41:58 -0500 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <5a1ms6$93@news.duke.edu> I just bought a used NeXTstation, I am wondering if a defect in the motherboard could be damaging its hard disks. Story is as follows: When I first powered it up, the boot stopped with a message: boot sd(0,0,0) booting SCSI target 1, lun 0 waiting for drive to come ready... READ: sdcmd bad state: 0 short read Can't load blk0 boot NeXT> I powered it down, and back up, and then it hung at: waiting for drive to come ready.............. I took the hard disk and tested it on a PC Adaptec 2940, and it would never come ready. So the HD was dead. The reseller sent me another hard disk, and I put that in, and when powering on from a cold state, the boot again gave: boot sd(0,0,0) booting SCSI target 1, lun 0 READ CAPACITY: sdcmd bad state: 0 dev blk len? NeXT> But powering down and back up again, it proceeded to boot. However, fsck reported one bad block, which I reasb'd, and then the system seemed to work fine for a while (except for this business of having to power on twice from cold start). Then it froze, and upon reboot, fsck reported multiple media errors, and the machine hung with a: panic> I tested this HD on the PC with the Adaptec 2940, and it came ready fine. A scan for media defects revealed ~40 bad blocks. But the strange thing is that the 2940 reported the HD to be only 123 MB, when in fact it is a 247 MB Seagate ST3283N. It had 247 MB on the NeXTstation. Could the NeXT motherboard have blown out a bit or done some real damage to the HD? Or is it some artifact of the Adaptec 2940? (I need to know in case I need to send the 2nd HD back, too). Thanks for any info. ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <NeXTMail and MIME: altenber@pueo.mhpcc.edu> Web: ¬http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: antonmanor@aol.com (AntonManor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Video on intel nextstep Date: 28 Dec 1996 01:36:45 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961228013500.UAA28821@ladder01.news.aol.com> What options (The cost of dimensions have gotten to be soooo outrageous I have to look at a intel option)
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From: Mark.A.Tarbell@jpl.nasa.gov (Mark Tarbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT slab serial port pinouts?? Date: 27 Dec 1996 18:14:37 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena CA, USA Message-ID: <5a13md$spm@starlight.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <32c41c24.84943640@nntp.service.ohio-state.edu> Cc: zatezalo.2@osu.edu In <32c41c24.84943640@nntp.service.ohio-state.edu> Shane wrote, in part: > Anyone have the NeXT slab serial port pinouts? > I'm trying to make a HWHS cable, and lost the damned instructions. > If anyone could email it to me, or point me in the right direction, I'd > appreciate it. Shane, Here is an on-line NeXT serial cable FAQ: http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution6.html Mark
From: cward@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Want to buy NeXT Date: 28 Dec 1996 18:00:05 GMT Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <cward-2812960959130001@adnline1121.adnc.com> I have a friend looking everywhere for a Turbo Color NeXT. He wants it because he likes black computers. He always paints his Macs black. He saw a NeXT and it was black so he wants one. He called NeXT and they told him a grand for a new turbo color. with monitor. He would like to see if he can find cheaper first. E-Mail him at spdwell@adnc.com. Thanx...
From: dchan@dchan.earthlink.net (Derek Chan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NXFax which modems? Date: 28 Dec 1996 21:32:25 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> Hi, I'm in need for some suggestions for a good 28.8/33.4 modem. The modem has to work with NXFax. I've been thinking of getting the US Robotics V.Everything but, have heard that US Robitics modems don't work with NXFax (I couldn't get a 28.8 USR Sportster to work but, maybe the V.Everything will work). Can anyone recommend anything? Thanks. -- dchan@earthlink.net | NeXTmail or MIMEmail welcome.
From: colinj@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Optical Drive use and testing, some questions. Date: 28 Dec 1996 22:38:13 GMT Organization: People for the Eating of Tasty Animals Message-ID: <5a47gl$pui@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Because the HD in my cube just died and I had it opened up to take the drive out in the hopes that I can get the warranty honored on it I got to thinking about the OD in the cube. I bought the cube not quite 2 years ago for and I've been using it pretty happily since then. When I first got it and had NS 3.2 installed I borrowed an optical disk from a co-worker to see if the drive worked. At that time the drive wouldn't mount properly and it looked like there was some key software (like the OD drivers) missing from my machine. So I wrote it off since I didn't have any of the media myself to use, had heard many disparaging remarks about the reliability of the media, and couldn't forsee a time when I might spend money on the media. Fast forward to today. I have the machine ripped apart and nothing looks like it is wrong with the OD (no scorch marks or rent metal ;-). I also have an Iomega Zip drive that alternates 'tween my Mac and NeXT and does well for removable media. My questions are: Does anyone still use the ODs? Is there an easy way to test it to see if it does work? If it does work are the disks reliable for backups and storage? Should I just forget about it, pull it out of the NeXT, and use the Zip drive exclusively? The thoughts and comments of the community are appreciated. -- "As Jun [Murai] explains it, `I can go to the bar and drink beer. I go to a phone and ping my routers, and if they are still working, I go back and drink more beer.'" Carl Malamud _Exploring_the_Internet_ Colin Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/
From: lavalle@nwlink.com (Russ LaValle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Video Modes Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 14:20:55 -0800 Organization: Edmark Corp. Message-ID: <lavalle-2812961420550001@port11.annex5.nwlink.com> Hi everyone, I couldn't find a definitive answer to these questions on peanuts, so... What graphics modes does a Color Turbo NextStation support? Does this differ between the 17" and 21" displays? Thanks, Russ
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill@texas.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: HELP NEEDED: Installing RAM in mono slab Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 28 Dec 1996 22:54:39 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <5a48ff$m92@news3.texas.net> I finally went out and bought 32mb of 4mb 30pin 70ns SIMMs today, but am having a bit of a problem when installing it. With 4mb SIMMs in bank 0, system recognizes 16mb, but on boot gives "Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c" With 4mb SIMMs in bank 0 and 1mb SIMMs in bank 1, system recognizes 20mb, but on boot gives "Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c" With 4mb SIMMs in bank 0 and 1, system complains about mixed-mode SIMMs in both banks, does not recognize any of the RAM, and fails the system test. These SIMMs are brand new, 3-chip, 70ns Toshiba. All 8 are identical. Any suggestions? I was looking forward to a fun weekend finally installing some real apps on my NeXT and making it my main machine, but unless I can get more than 8mb in it, it's useless and I just wasted $200 on RAM that I can't get a refund on (only exchange). Please send replies to mrbill@texas.net so that I can get them faster. Thanks. bill -- bill bradford system admin, unix geek, super hero, BOFH mrbill@texas.net texas networking, inc. http://www.texas.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a test of the emergency signature system. Were this an actual signature, you would see amusing mottos, disclaimers, a zillion net addresses, or edifying philisophical statements. This is only a test.
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXFax which modems? Date: 29 Dec 1996 00:13:10 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5a4d2m$74s@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> I'm using the Diamond SupraSonic which seems like a nice alternative to the very expensive ZyXel's. This modem works with NXFax as well as the freeware Mgetty+Sendfax and Efax. I got the SupraSonic for something like $225 from Computability. It comes in a sleek black aluminum case and has a two line illuminated alphanumeric LCD on the front for status messages. While connected at the same speed as my Boca this modem will produce a throughput 10% or more higher than my Boca. Unfortunatlely, this means that even on my PPro200 this modem can produce serial port buffer overruns when downloading large files from a nearby server (i.e. one which is not too many hops away). This problem may also be related to the fact that my SupraSonic is an exteranl while my Boca is an internal. The solution to the above is probably a Hayes ESP Communications Accelarator card (msrp ~$75). As I recall this card has 1k send and recieve buffers along with a dedicated processor allowing serial port throughput as high as 960kbps. Unfortuantlely, this card is in very high demand and was on backorder everywhere I called. Similar cards are available from others including ZyXel, but I really like the specs on the ESP. In article <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> dchan@dchan.earthlink.net (Derek Chan) writes: > >Hi, > >I'm in need for some suggestions for a good 28.8/33.4 modem. The modem has >to work with NXFax. I've been thinking of getting the US Robotics >V.Everything but, have heard that US Robitics modems don't work with NXFax (I >couldn't get a 28.8 USR Sportster to work but, maybe the V.Everything will >work). Can anyone recommend anything? > >Thanks. > > >-- >dchan@earthlink.net | NeXTmail or MIMEmail welcome. > -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Video Modes Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:15:00 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023580002912961115000001@news.tiac.net> References: <lavalle-2812961420550001@port11.annex5.nwlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <lavalle-2812961420550001@port11.annex5.nwlink.com>, lavalle@nwlink.com (Russ LaValle) wrote: > What graphics modes does a Color Turbo NextStation support? Four bit RGB. There is an alpha channel as well in the app's RAM store. The DPS dithering is pretty good at emulating a full eight bit system. > Does this differ between the 17" and 21" displays? No. The only difference is DPI; 92 for the 17", 72 for the 21". The 21" is WYSIWYG; the 17" isn't. If you really need photo realistic color you want a Turbo Cube with ND and the 21" display. Probably doubles the price, since you'll need plenty of RAM for generating those 32 bpp images. If you do go for it, try for a cube with a built in floppy. You don't really want an OD - it will go belly up sooner or later. Barney
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory Required to really use NeXT box? Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:17:40 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023580002912961117400001@news.tiac.net> References: <32C5CBF9.A0E@ebs.ac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <32C5CBF9.A0E@ebs.ac.com>, ulmerer@ebs.ac.com wrote: > I wasn't able to find any information on how much memory a person > really should have when using NextStep on a black box.. I just bought > a TurboMono unit, and ordered 2-16mb SIMMS for a total of 32mb, should > I be looking for some addtl' RAM? I know mileage varies with driving > habits, so don't tell me that.. :-) I've been running Solaris 2.5 on > an Intel Box with 32mb of memory, and have been generally pleased. I never felt starved with 20 MB on a mono; 24 MB on a Turbo Color was a little skimpy so I just upgraded to 32 MB and can see a little better response. Barney
Message-ID: <32C5CBF9.A0E@ebs.ac.com> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 19:40:10 -0600 From: Eric Ulmer <ulmerer@ebs.ac.com> Organization: ServiceNet, LLC. Andersen/BBN MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory Required to really use NeXT box? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wasn't able to find any information on how much memory a person really should have when using NextStep on a black box.. I just bought a TurboMono unit, and ordered 2-16mb SIMMS for a total of 32mb, should I be looking for some addtl' RAM? I know mileage varies with driving habits, so don't tell me that.. :-) I've been running Solaris 2.5 on an Intel Box with 32mb of memory, and have been generally pleased.
From: cward@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Want to buy NeXT Date: 29 Dec 1996 03:08:52 GMT Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <5a4nc4$5b2@nr1.vancouver.istar.net> I have a friend looking everywhere for a Turbo Color NeXT. He wants it because he likes black computers. He always paints his Macs black. He saw a NeXT and it was black so he wants one. He called NeXT and they told him a grand for a new turbo color. with monitor. He would like to see if he can find cheaper first. E-Mail him at spdwell@adnc.com. Thanx...
From: yblock@next.mc.maricopa.edu (York Block) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What NS should I ge? Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:04:24 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <yblock-2912960004250001@30.phoenix-001.az.dial-access.att.net> Hi, I'm gonna get a turbo color. I would like to know what version of NextStep I should get(NS 3.3 or 4.1)?. I need some advise. BTW I will use both, the development and the users part. Thank you for your help. York
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mattj@invisix.com Subject: Re: Meteor on NeXT? Message-ID: <c1d7cc$1121.7c@news.goldengate.net> Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 07:18:01 GMT References: <32C319AD.1C99@ebs.ac.com> <E32qpq.9xL@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote: >In article <32C319AD.1C99@ebs.ac.com> writes: >> I was poking about looking for 68040 accelerators which only seem >> to replace the CPU in a computer, and ran across this thing >> called a Meteor for the MacIntosh. Does anyone know if It'll work >> in a NeXT box? It says it'll drive a Centris at 40mhz, >> and the 605/610/700/900/950/650 at 50mhz. I figure since It's only >> a chip swap for a little addon board, it may work. Anyone know? >> Didn't find this subject on any FAQs >> >No, it most likely will not! There's more to a computer architecture than >what meets the eye at first glance ;-) > >The thing will have to consider timing constraints on the system bus. And >that has only be done for Macs, not NeXTs. So, if you have some money to >waste you can try, otherwise... Make sure you have a good return policy. I would be interested in knowing the results. -- MATT | mailto:mattj@invisix.com NeXTMail Ok jurcich | http://www.invisix.com Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 24MB, 250MB, NEC XP21, NEXTSTEP 3.2 Novell Netware 3.12-10 Server, 486DX2-66, 240MB, 8MB
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What NS should I ge? Date: 29 Dec 1996 08:09:54 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5a590i$17o@news4.digex.net> References: <yblock-2912960004250001@30.phoenix-001.az.dial-access.att.net> yblock@next.mc.maricopa.edu (York Block) wrote: > Hi, I'm gonna get a turbo color. I would like to know what version > of NextStep I should get(NS 3.3 or 4.1)?. I need some advise. > BTW I will use both, the development and the users part. If you at all can swing it, get 4.1...simply for OPENSTEP. If you are starting new development, it pays to do it in OPENSTEP, b/c then you will be able to compile versions not only for the MACH operating system, but also for NT and Solaris... -- Thanks, later, John Kheit monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NEXTmail OK NEXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Opinions expressed represent me only
From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Useful software, mono/color Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:32:50 -0700 Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <jak-ya023680002912960132500001@news.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm thinking of getting a NeXTstation, and would like to know what kind of apps are out there that can make it a useful machine to me(as opposed to a beautiful example of industrial design sitting on my desk). The categories of software in which I am interested: DTP (something like Quark, maybe?) all sorts of graphics (mostly bitmapped, little vector) including 3D CAD/something like formZ webdesign light web/mailserver software? and of course internet surfing (mail, newsgroups, www). Are there any notable apps in these categories? Especially shareware, of course. And a way to transfer files to/from a Mac. Also, please note whether any such apps would want color. I'd need to justify a color NeXTstation (I'm leaning toward mono). Sorry if this asks for a lot of info, but I'd appreciate it greatly. thanks john --- - ------- ------- Music is a higher revelation than philosophy. - Beethoven jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/
From: spdwell@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB NeXT TURBO OR NON TURBO COLOR CUBE Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:22:04 -0800 Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <spdwell-2812962222040001@adnline379.adnc.com> I'm interested in purchasing a NeXT turbo or non turbo color cube. I was told of someone selling appox. 40 a couple of days ago. If anyone knows of this person please reply.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mattj@invisix.com Subject: Re: Memory Required to really use NeXT box? Message-ID: <c1d7cc$e379.16b@news.goldengate.net> Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 20:55:09 GMT References: <32C5CBF9.A0E@ebs.ac.com> Eric Ulmer <ulmerer@ebs.ac.com> wrote: >I wasn't able to find any information on how much memory a person >really should have when using NextStep on a black box.. I just bought >a TurboMono unit, and ordered 2-16mb SIMMS for a total of 32mb, should >I be looking for some addtl' RAM? I know mileage varies with driving >habits, so don't tell me that.. :-) I've been running Solaris 2.5 on >an Intel Box with 32mb of memory, and have been generally pleased. > I'm running 24MB on a turbo color station, and it get's a bit swappy at times. I'm not doing any developing, just Mail, Omniweb, Alexandra, and GatorFTP (some Terminal sessions, etc). I normally run Omniweb by itself as it seems to take up a lot of mem, but I can run the others at the same time and there doesn't seem to be any swapping. I did take some chips out of another computer here and had 32MB in the NeXT and that was very nice. I would venture to say that you'll be fine with 32. -- MATT | mailto:mattj@invisix.com NeXTMail Ok jurcich | http://www.invisix.com Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 24MB, 250MB, NEC XP21, NEXTSTEP 3.2 Novell Netware 3.12-10 Server, 486DX2-66, 240MB, 8MB
From: jpeacock@deltanet.com (Jerry Peacock) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TV CARDS FOR COMPUTERS Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:45:53 GMT Organization: Delta Internet Services, Anaheim, CA Message-ID: <32c65901.5276258@news.deltanet.com> DOES ANYBODY OUT THERE HAVE ANY INFORMATION FOR ME ABOUT THE TV CARDS YOU CAN USE ON YOUR PC. LIKE WHAT ARE THE BEST OR BETTER ONES? PROS AND CONS. CAN YOU STILL KEEP USING YOUR EXISTING VIDEO CARD AND NOT LOOSE THE CARDS PREFORMANCE. THANKS FOR ANY HELP
From: lavalle@nwlink.com (Russ LaValle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory Required to really use NeXT box? Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:18:39 -0800 Organization: Edmark Corp. Message-ID: <lavalle-2912961318390001@port21.annex6.nwlink.com> References: <32C5CBF9.A0E@ebs.ac.com> <jbf-ya023580002912961117400001@news.tiac.net> In article <jbf-ya023580002912961117400001@news.tiac.net>, jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) wrote: > In article <32C5CBF9.A0E@ebs.ac.com>, ulmerer@ebs.ac.com wrote: > > > I wasn't able to find any information on how much memory a person > > really should have when using NextStep on a black box.. I just bought > > a TurboMono unit, and ordered 2-16mb SIMMS for a total of 32mb, should > > I be looking for some addtl' RAM? For NeXT boxes, do you need to upgrade RAM in groups of 1, 2 or 4 simms? I.E. is the memory bus 16 or 32 bit? Thanks, Russ
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Useful software, mono/color Date: 29 Dec 1996 15:26:37 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961229152500.KAA09479@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <jak-ya023680002912960132500001@news.asu.edu> As regards DTP, the most notable software is OneVision, by a German company. The URL is <http://www.bitart.com/OneVision> A review is available at: <http://www.publish.com/0396/international/screen.html> There's been brief mention of DigiScript, including an ISBN for a book about it--it's apparently a PostScript/PDF editor. There are also the drawing packages, SuperDraw and Create. Create is at <http://www.stone.com> There are other things which are discontinued such as Altsys' Virtuoso, and tools which are no longer actively updated such as FrameMaker 3.x -- does anyone at Adobe know that they have this? William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: HELP NEEDED: Installing RAM in mono slab Message-ID: <E36JzA.AD6@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5a48ff$m92@news3.texas.net> Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:52:21 GMT In article <5a48ff$m92@news3.texas.net> Bill Bradford <mrbill@texas.net> writes: > I finally went out and bought 32mb of 4mb 30pin 70ns SIMMs today, but > am having a bit of a problem when installing it. > > With 4mb SIMMs in bank 0, system recognizes 16mb, but on boot > gives "Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c" > > With 4mb SIMMs in bank 0 and 1mb SIMMs in bank 1, system recognizes > 20mb, but on boot gives "Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c" > > With 4mb SIMMs in bank 0 and 1, system complains about mixed-mode > SIMMs in both banks, does not recognize any of the RAM, and fails > the system test. > > These SIMMs are brand new, 3-chip, 70ns Toshiba. All 8 are identical. > I once had a similar annoying experience (mine actually went bad after several months of successful operation). RAM that tested ok in a SIMM tester for repeated tests over whole nights and even weekends wound up as being faulty in my mono slab. The RAM even worked in Mac IIs after the faulty ones were identified. Luckily, I had a friend in a large Mac shop that helped me with swapping SIMMs until we found working ones. Actually, I somehow suspect that the autodiscovery routine of the slab actually fails on too fast chips (mine were labeled 80ns and tested to fall between 62ns and 68ns in a timing assay). My way of healing things was using two or three SIMMs out of a working slab and interchanging my supected ones until a stable conf was found. Booting verbosely with diagnostics switched on was the only reliable way to identify faulty SIMMs (that worked perfectly in a Mac II, afterwards). And I only used one bank to sort out bad candidates, and only lateron I went further to populate the second bank (bank 0 is next to the power supply). The diagnostics tell you on which SIMM they failed (at least in my ROM version). Swap that stick with another one and try again. The only way I can come up with that needs no external help or means... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Can NeXT motherboard damage HD? (take two) Message-ID: <E36Kyw.AEK@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5a1ms6$93@news.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:13:43 GMT In article <5a1ms6$93@news.duke.edu> altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) writes: ...munch... > I tested this HD on the PC with the Adaptec 2940, and it came > ready fine. A scan for media defects revealed ~40 bad blocks. > But the strange thing is that the 2940 reported the HD to be only > 123 MB, when in fact it is a 247 MB Seagate ST3283N. It had 247 > MB on the NeXTstation. Could the NeXT motherboard have blown > out a bit or done some real damage to the HD? Or is it some > artifact of the Adaptec 2940? (I need to know in case I need to > send the 2nd HD back, too). > In strange circumstances (you gave no specifics about the state of your SCSI bus setup during these tests) some errors could result in faulty information to be written into the configuration block of a SCSI disk drive, thus confirming the possibilty of your situation. Most likely, the situation came from your disk drive not to be configured as SCSI-1, asynchronous. Black hardware needs this conf to work reliably. You might need a OEM data sheet for the Seagate to find out about this. BTW, the guy who sells these drives, is he involved in computer archeology? A Seagate ST3283N is probably even out of support by the manufacturer by now. Or is it only a finder's award that you're paying ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Memory Required to really use NeXT box? Message-ID: <cdoutyE372Dz.563@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <32C5CBF9.A0E@ebs.ac.com> <c1d7cc$e379.16b@news.goldengate.net> Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:29:59 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom16.netcom.com In article <c1d7cc$e379.16b@news.goldengate.net>, <mattj@invisix.com> wrote: >Eric Ulmer <ulmerer@ebs.ac.com> wrote: >>I wasn't able to find any information on how much memory a person >>really should have when using NextStep on a black box. Having run four variants of black hardware (cube, ND, TurboND, and TurboColor) I can say with some assurance that performance keeps improving all the way up to 128MB of main RAM. I noticed improvement in each jump in memory configuration from 16MB to 32MB to 64MB to 80MB, and finally to 128MB. The difference in benchmark numbers is pretty low, but the "feel" is better and multitasking and time between reboots improves. I'd say that if your swap drive is fast enough then 32MB is adequate for most situations. As always, moving lots of full color windows requires lots of RAM. I would recommend 64MB or more for that pursuit. You should also consider that OmniWeb is notorious for consuming VMem. Depending on the graphics content I start swapping after ~1 hour of surfing on my 128MB+48MB TurboND. Curiously I find that 64MB is not as efficiently used on Intel hardware as on true black machines. In other words I have less free memory booting my Intel machine (at 1280*1024*8bit) than I do on a 64MB TurboColor. It's not clear if the extra backing store required for the Window Server is at fault. -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: lavalle@nwlink.com (Russ LaValle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:31:36 -0800 Organization: Edmark Corp. Message-ID: <lavalle-2912961331370001@port21.annex6.nwlink.com> How does OpenStep on a Pentium (say... P120) compare to NEXTSTEP on a Turbo slab? Is it 4 times as fast? Is it worth it to get a Black machine vs an Intel? I have a P120 system I slapped together. I may have to swap some components to make it compatible with OpenStep. It has: P120 on US Logic motherboard (Intel Triton chipset) Western Digital SCSI controller WD 7193 Conner 1 gig SCSI HD Gold Star 8x EIDE CD ROM drive Soundblaster Pro Diamond Stealth Video (also have an ATI Mach 64) The bottom line is: should I make mods to my current Intel system to allow OpenStep to run, or should I buy one of the semi-complete Color Turbo Nextstations I've seen being sold for $600? My goal is to get into NEXTSTEP or OpenStep software development. Thanks, Russ
From: andrews@gate.net (stuart andrews) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:27:16 -0400 Organization: andrews:development Message-ID: <andrews-2912962227170001@sarfl2-21.gate.net> References: <lavalle-2912961331370001@port21.annex6.nwlink.com> In article <lavalle-2912961331370001@port21.annex6.nwlink.com>, lavalle@nwlink.com (Russ LaValle) wrote: > My goal is to get into NEXTSTEP or OpenStep software development. > Thanks, > Russ Without trying to sound rudly kurt, my suggestion would be for you to scrap your entire system and get a PowerMac. With Apple/NeXT joining forces and from their current position they have revealed to developers they plan to port OPENSTEP to the PPC first and _maybe_ sometime later to Intel boxes. If you're seriously looking to do OPENSTEP development for anything other than tinkering around, you might want to buy a Mac box. Regards, Stuart
From: HisMajesty <fatjelly@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT PowerPC Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 13:05:13 +0800 Organization: The WatchTower Message-ID: <32C74D89.3843@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NeXT had some unreleased PowerPC hardware. Does anyone know anything about them like what happened?
From: spdwell@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT wanted Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 20:24:11 -0800 Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <spdwell-2912962024120001@adnline332.adnc.com> I'm looking for the cat who had the NeXT paper clip despenser for sale or trade.
From: ron08@aol.com (Ron 08) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DayDream Pli Super Floopy Date: 30 Dec 1996 06:10:52 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961230060901.BAA02024@ladder01.news.aol.com> Hi!! I'm wondering if Day Dream can be used with the external PLi SuperFloopy? Thanks!! Ron
From: dfox@belvdere.vip.best.com (David E. Fox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: PENPAL GREETINGS! (was Re: VIRUS ALERT) Date: 29 Dec 1996 22:18:23 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <slrn5cdrjm.52j.dfox@belvdere.vip.best.com> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <5a0u8u$ck1@hunter.premier.net> On 27 Dec 1996 16:42:06 GMT, Scott Hoppe <battleaxe@cwc.lsu.edu> wrote: >They completely missed the joke this time, because the original poster didn't >use the Subject: 'PENPAL GREETINGS!'. Also there are related email viruses out there - most start out with "please view in full screen" or " I saw you(r) posting in Usenet and thought you might be interested" If you see that, delete immediately. Also watch out for emails with dollar signs in the Subject: line. >Scott Hoppe <battleaxe@cwc.lsu.edu> >http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/people/shoppe/staff.htm -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ David E. Fox Tax Thanks for lettimg me dfox@belvdere.vip.best.com the change magnetic patterns root@belvedere.sbay.org churches on your hard disk. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: adsen@zen.linpro.no (Petter Adsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info on Black monitors wanted Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:57:42 GMT Organization: Telenor Online Public Access Message-ID: <32c77527.584325082@news.online.no> Has anyone got any pointers to where I might find some info on black monitors? I'm trying to find out what models were made, and the specs of these (esp. 21"). Thanks for any help, Petter Adsen <adsen@zen.linpro.no> UNIX - Live Free Or Die
From: jimmiequan@aol.com (JimmieQuan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT PowerPC Date: 30 Dec 1996 09:17:08 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961230091500.EAA05255@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <32C74D89.3843@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> Around Dec '92, NeXT invited Apple over to look at it's PowerPC hardward since NeXT was about to get out of the hardware business, they wanted to sell it's design. Apple thought they could do it better and decided that they were not interested in it. To demo the hardware, the PowerPC was running NeXTStep at the time but Apple was interested in that either. So there are 3 possiblities. They're still inside NeXT, it became landfill :-( or more likely (like most protos) it's in some ex-NeXT engineer's garage collecting dust. I guess we'll have to wait another 10 years to found out which engineers might have it when Mr. Cringerly finishes his finally chapter on the nerds. JQ :-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <mattj@invisix.com> Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Message-ID: <32C78BC0.1EE4@invisix.com> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 03:30:40 -0600 References: <lavalle-2912961331370001@port21.annex6.nwlink.com> Organization: Invisix MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russ LaValle <lavalle@nwlink.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Russ LaValle wrote: > > How does OpenStep on a Pentium (say... P120) compare to NEXTSTEP on a > Turbo slab? > > Is it 4 times as fast? Is it worth it to get a Black machine vs an Intel? > > I have a P120 system I slapped together. I may have to swap some > components to make it compatible with OpenStep. It has: > > P120 on US Logic motherboard (Intel Triton chipset) > Western Digital SCSI controller WD 7193 > Conner 1 gig SCSI HD > Gold Star 8x EIDE CD ROM drive > Soundblaster Pro > Diamond Stealth Video (also have an ATI Mach 64) > > The bottom line is: should I make mods to my current Intel system to allow > OpenStep to run, or should I buy one of the semi-complete Color Turbo > Nextstations I've seen being sold for $600? > > My goal is to get into NEXTSTEP or OpenStep software development. > > Thanks, > Russ In spite of what Stuart Andrews says (which he has a good point) it sounds like you need to be on OPENSTEP soon (within a month or so). I agree that it would be quite interesting to wait until NeXT and Apple do their thing, but in the meantime you gotta have something. I have a turbo color station with 24MB RAM, and it performs adqeuately for my lowly internet tasks (mail, news, web, etc). I'm not a developer, so I can't comment there. I bought the system because "NeXT is cool," but I found out there's a lot more going on that I wasn't aware of. Anyway. I don't run NS/OSon Intel, so I can't say anything about the speed there, but I would say it is significantly faster on a P120 then a turbo station. (Others with experience, please jump in now!) Before making a recommendation, I'd like to ask two questions: How much modding do you have to do to your system to make it work with OPENSTEP and what do you want to do when you get on OPENSTEP, regardless of hardware platform? I'll probably stay on my slab for a while--maybe upgrade the memory/HD. It's a decent box, looks cool, and is a little piece of history... :) -- Are there Cray-based web servers? Forget Winblows NT. (http://www.invisix.com) Please send me an interesting site to view--I'm bored.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <mattj@invisix.com> Subject: Re: NeXT PowerPC Message-ID: <32C7A405.EF0@invisix.com> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 05:14:13 -0600 References: <32C74D89.3843@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> Organization: Invisix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii HisMajesty wrote: > > NeXT had some unreleased PowerPC hardware. Does anyone know anything > about them like what happened? Like what PPC hardware? Any details on what it is/was? -- Are there Cray-based web servers? Forget Winblows NT. (http://www.invisix.com) Please send me an interesting site to view--I'm bored.
From: YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXFax which modems? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 21:32:17 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32C7B620.2C8@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Derek Chan wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm in need for some suggestions for a good 28.8/33.4 modem. The modem has > to work with NXFax. I've been thinking of getting the US Robotics > V.Everything but, have heard that US Robitics modems don't work with NXFax (I > couldn't get a 28.8 USR Sportster to work but, maybe the V.Everything will > work). Can anyone recommend anything? Supported Modems: NXFax has been tested with the following Class 2 fax modems: Boca 14.4 (Boca Research) Intel144/144E (Intel) MT1432BA (MultiTech) MultiTech MT1932 ZDX FXSA, FXMT, FXPKT (Practical Peripherals) SupraFAX 14.4 v32.bis (Supra) WorldBlazer, T3000 (Telebit) VFX (Zoom) all U-1496 models (ZyXEL) # They will be updated to 28.8/33.4 speed. Note that NXFax does not support Class 1 modems. ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/demos/comm/NXFax1.04.tar ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/binaries/demos/comm/ Black and White Software, Inc. Bridge Street Marketplace Waitsfield, VT 802-496-8500 802-496-5112 Fax sales@bandw.com YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board written by Korean)
From: thecros@winternet.com (Michael Charles Crosby) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:47:40 -0600 Organization: (missing) Message-ID: <thecros-3012960947400001@news.visi.com> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <32BF7B80.2981@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> About this "NEW" good times virus (ie the Pen Pals virus) I heard an interesting hypothesis as to it's origin. The original poster of said virus could have been trying to kill the Pen Pals thread he/she kept getting since he/she was tired of the spams. Kinda silly that the person didn't realize that his/her post/email would end up being an even bigger spam that the pen pals one (I haven't seen the pen pals but I HAVE seen the virus email) For what it's worth I think the NSA labeled this as a hoax about one hour after it was found (about two weeks ago). Have a good one all! Michael C Crosby -- -- http://www.cros.com/ It's just me....
From: antonmanor@aol.com (AntonManor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstep Portable ? Best options Date: 30 Dec 1996 15:55:50 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961230155400.KAA10739@ladder01.news.aol.com> What's the best option on Nextstep portable for sendingmail, color, connecting to the internet & server cheapest no hassle
From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: networking and Zip drive on slab Date: 30 Dec 1996 15:57:05 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961230155500.KAA10777@ladder01.news.aol.com> Two questions: 1) can I network my NeXTstation to my Power Mac 6100 to share my HP Deskwriter 550C? If so, how? 2) can I use my Mac's Zip drive to back up my NeXT running NEXTSTEP 3.0? also, can the NeXT be booted from a Zip? If anyone can help I'd really appreciate it. J. Gidi
From: webmaster@ibgi.com (Ed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: $350.00 NeXT W/N4000B Monitor !!! Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:09:17 GMT Organization: IBGi Message-ID: <32c7e748.252217936@news.cfa.org> Happy New Year from Internet Business Group Inc., Visit our page with current list of NeXT equipment. http://www.ibgi.com/nextsale.htm ADB SYSTEMS> $ 350.00 gets you 68040 system with N4000B monitor. 8 MB Mem., 100 MB HD, Keyboard, Mouse, All cables. NeXT Printers now available. $200.00 http://www.ibgi.com/nextsale.htm Ed.
From: murshid@unit.edu (murshid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Disktab for Quantum Fireball Date: 30 Dec 1996 16:44:14 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services Message-ID: <5a8rgv$94r@ordeal.cts.com> Disktab for Quantum Fireball The Quantum Fireball is 3.2 Gig. NextStep 3.3 only recognizes under 2 Gig when using Buildisk. Does someone have a disktab for this drive or a means of utilizing all 3.2 gig? Thank you murshid@unit.edu Please respond by email -- Murshid Grateful to use the only computer murshid@unit.edu that feels like it works the 619 985 2323 way a computer should work. It is better to do something easy with style than to do something difficult without style. To do something difficult with style is Art.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: frank_m@jupiter.sat.mot.com Subject: Suggestions on P166 machine for NS? Organization: MOTOROLA Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:33:44 GMT Message-ID: <1996Dec30.163344.8386@schbbs.mot.com> Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (SCHBBS News Account) Anybody have any suggestions on a Pentium 166 MHz machine for running Nextstep. I would like to spend around $5K for a machine. My needs are more toward CPU power than graphics power. I would like to get a machine that is fairly good quality (reliable). - Thanks, Mark frank_m@jupiter.sat.mot.com
From: steffi@dgs.dgsys.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: IDEAL Intel system for OPENSTEP development Date: 30 Dec 1996 13:53:30 -0500 Organization: Digital Gateway Systems Message-ID: <5a933a$i61@DGS.dgsys.com> References: <32C2C34E.26BD@datadepot.com> <5a1jcd$8cd@news.digifix.com> If you're serious you'll go and get a P5 P133/166 with a good motherboard and spend a little extra on a good monitor, video and SCSI subsystem.
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT PowerPC Date: 30 Dec 1996 19:26:00 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-3012961123330001@mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net> References: <32C74D89.3843@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> <32C7A405.EF0@invisix.com> >> NeXT had some unreleased PowerPC hardware. Does anyone know anything >> about them like what happened? > >Like what PPC hardware? Any details on what it is/was? Rumor has it that NeXT was planning to move from the 68040 to the PowerPC. They ported Nextstep and created prototypes. These machines were 601 based. Rumor also has it that some of the NeXT engineers have these babies at home. I have NO idea if any of this is true. I do know that next was looking at the 88100 for a while, but I don't know whatever became of the black risc project. If I remember correctly, the whole thing was multiprocessing as well. But then again, you know how reliable rumors can be ;-) Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: NXFax which modems? Message-ID: <cdoutyE38r0C.5yD@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> <32C7B620.2C8@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 19:19:24 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom4.netcom.com In article <32C7B620.2C8@soback.kornet.nm.kr>, YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> wrote: >Derek Chan wrote: >> I'm in need for some suggestions for a good 28.8/33.4 modem. The modem has >> to work with NXFax. I've been thinking of getting the US Robotics >Supported Modems: >NXFax has been tested with the following Class 2 fax modems: [useful info snipped] Although it is not listed in the tested modems, my Hayes Accura 28.8 modem does seem to work with NXFax v1.03. In other words I have been able to send and receive faxes, but I don't know if I have missed faxes. NXFax reports this modem as: %> nazgul_fax: Unknown modem %> nazgul_fax: CL2 V4.00 YMMV. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: "Raymond L. Ehrlich" <Rayehrlich@sprintmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT slab serial port pinouts?? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 17:05:29 +0500 Organization: Internet Knowledge Bank Message-ID: <32C7B009.7980@sprintmail.com> References: <32c41c24.84943640@nntp.service.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------1F9B40FD54A40" To: zatezalo.2@osu.edu ------------1F9B40FD54A40 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Slab serial port pin assignment Pin 1 =DTR Pin 2=DCD Pin 3=TXD Pin 4=Gnd Pin 5=RXD Pin 6=RTS Pin 7=RTXC Pin 8=CTS Hope this helps, Ray ------------1F9B40FD54A40 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <HTML><BODY> <DT>Slab serial port pin assignment</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Pin 1 =DTR</DT> <DT>Pin 2=DCD</DT> <DT>Pin 3=TXD</DT> <DT>Pin 4=Gnd</DT> <DT>Pin 5=RXD</DT> <DT>Pin 6=RTS</DT> <DT>Pin 7=RTXC</DT> <DT>Pin 8=CTS</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Hope this helps,</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Ray </DT> </BODY> </HTML> ------------1F9B40FD54A40--
From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT PowerPC Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:29:02 -0700 Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <jak-ya023680003012961529020001@news.asu.edu> References: <32C74D89.3843@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> <32C7A405.EF0@invisix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <32C7A405.EF0@invisix.com>, mattj@invisix.com wrote: >HisMajesty wrote: >> >> NeXT had some unreleased PowerPC hardware. Does anyone know anything >> about them like what happened? > >Like what PPC hardware? Any details on what it is/was? They were supposed to be dual 50-MHz 601s. --- - ------- ------- Music is a higher revelation than philosophy. - Beethoven jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/
From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: frivolous monitor question Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:34:29 -0700 Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <jak-ya023680003012961534300001@news.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Do any of the black NeXT color monitors have the same cool stand the mono monitors do? Do all the mono monitors have that stand? (I'm referring to the original stand.) john --- - ------- ------- And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables. - The Tick jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/
From: thecros@winternet.com (Michael Charles Crosby) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <thecros-3012960947400001@news.visi.com> Control: cancel <thecros-3012960947400001@news.visi.com> Date: 30 Dec 1996 22:44:36 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <5a9gkk$h05@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> This article canceled.
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Time to upgrade the printer Date: 31 Dec 1996 03:19:48 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5aa0ok$c9q@sidney.cps.msu.edu> Hi all! Well... it is time to upgrade the printer from a HP DeskJet 500 to a postscript laser printer. I am interested in postscript because: a) No hassle use with NeXTSTEP b) If I ever move to a different platform (AppleStep or whatever it will be called) I want something that won't require drivers that may not be ported. I am interested in Laser because ink jet is nice... but not nice enough. This will be a printer for personal use and not too high a volume (except my thesis which I will be printing on this printer). I would appreciate tips on printers people found to be of good quality and value (i.e. not overpriced). TIA for any thoughts! - Steve --- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | NetMass Communications | mailto:perkins@netmass.com NeXT OS3.3 with PPP-2.3 | NeXT PPP-2.3 info at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <mattj@invisix.com> Subject: Re: frivolous monitor question Message-ID: <32C8A64F.5CCA@invisix.com> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 23:36:15 -0600 References: <jak-ya023680003012961534300001@news.asu.edu> Organization: Invisix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii John Kestner wrote: > > Do any of the black NeXT color monitors have the same cool stand the mono > monitors do? Do all the mono monitors have that stand? (I'm referring to > the original stand.) > > john I have a 17" NeXT color monitor (Fimi). It does not have a stand like the mono monitors. It has a regular tilt-n-swivel thingy. -- What do you call a room full of Macintosh computers? An Apple orchard. THE NETWORK IS THE COMPUTER. (C) Sun Microsystems. http://www.invisix.com ... NeXT, Silicon Graphics and Stuff
From: Paul Naton <pnatona@cts.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How do I network ColorStation to my new power Mac? Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 22:21:06 -0800 Organization: CTS Network Services Message-ID: <32C8B0C1.7F57@cts.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is required to network my still cool but aging Turbo color Nextstation (3.2) to my new screaming fast Power Computing Powertower Pro 180? I hear it is pretty easy with ethernet. Any tips, comments, instructions or guidence would be helpful!!!! I am not a complete networking novice but have no experience getting a Slab to talk to a Mac. This may save me from getting a zip drive for the Next to transfer large graphics files back and forth. Mac and Next together atlast..........should have happened years ago........ love them both E-mail me or post in the newsgroup. Thanks Paul Naton pnatona@cts.com
From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Mac->NeXTstation->printer Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 01:01:17 -0700 Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <jak-ya023680003112960101170001@news.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If I have a Mac and a NeXTstation networked together, is it possible to print from the Mac to a NeXT laser printer hooked up to the NeXTstation? Or is there any other way to get from the Mac to the NeXT printer? Any help is much appreciated. john --- - ------- ------- You're not going crazy, you're going sane in a crazy world! - The Tick jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/
From: jimmiequan@aol.com (JimmieQuan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT PowerPC Date: 31 Dec 1996 08:35:54 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19961231083400.DAA05470@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <jak-ya023680003012961529020001@news.asu.edu> The path of Risc chip usage at NeXT was: 1) An Intel i860 but became the bases for the NeXT Demension board. 2) Then a Motorola 88110 but was drop when 3) The PPC 601 came out. JQ :-)
From: rraman@site.gmu.edu (Ravishankar Ramanathan (CSI)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can I put a 3.5" full-height drive into a Turbo Color Station? Date: 30 Dec 1996 22:35:27 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <5a9g3f$jc6@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, Can I install a full-height hard drive (3.5") into a Turbo slab? I would appreciate if some one could fill me in on this soon... TIA -Ravi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Info on Black monitors wanted Message-ID: <E3A26B.Arp@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32c77527.584325082@news.online.no> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 12:18:10 GMT In article <32c77527.584325082@news.online.no> adsen@zen.linpro.no (Petter Adsen) writes: > Has anyone got any pointers to where I might find some info on black > monitors? I'm trying to find out what models were made, and the specs > of these (esp. 21"). > The printed Users Manual (for NS 2.1) that came with every black machine has an appendix stating the overall specs and pinout of the system box. No other formal docs available. The 21" color monitor was supplied by Hitachi, I suppose. Try the FAQ on Peanuts for more detailed info. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: The jumping clock problem Date: 31 Dec 1996 18:11:22 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5abl0a$gb0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Until a recent motherboard upgrade, I had a funny problem with my 486-based white NeXT. Periodically, the clock would start to jump ahead by large amounts (10s of seconds, or minutes). This would make BackSpace (which was set to start up after 5 minutes) kick in every few seconds, and even if BackSpace wasn't running the machine soon got so screwed up that it was unusable. A reboot did not always fix the problem. When I replaced the cheap 486 motherboard with a good ASUS Pentium one, the problem disappeared. However, I've just been asked to look into some hardware problems at a local hospital that uses some cheap white NeXTs, and apparently they have "jumping clocks" too. If anyone has done a full diagnosis of this problem and can suggest a good fix, I'd be really interested to hear about it. Thanks. -- -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. Network manager, Web manager, postmaster gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Joseph McWilliams <mcwilljg@euler.sfasu.edu> Subject: Need advice on BNC connectors Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961231133625.9099A-100000@euler> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:41:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm setting up a small network and will connect two NeXT 040 slabs using Thinnet coax. Does the BNC T-adapter need to be F/M/F or F/F/F? Also what resistance should the BNC terminators be, 50, 75, or 93 OHM? Thanks. Joe McWilliams
From: root@bytewarecafe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 32meg 70ns 72pin EDO simm for $140 Date: 31 Dec 1996 20:41:53 GMT Organization: bytewarecafe.com Message-ID: <5abtqh$82g@newman.pcisys.net> We are a new site on the internet and we can supply your hardware needs. As a promotion to get our name out to you, we are running a special promotion on 32Meg simms. For a very limited time, we are selling 32Meg/70ns EDO simms for just 140+shipping and handling, delivered to your door within 2-3 days. Just go to our site www.bytewarecafe.com and fill out the necessary information about yourself and your credit card information. Goto the products list and choose the memory item. From here, select the memory you want and click on the invoice button to see your total charges. If you wish to browse the other hardware categories, feel free to browse for as long as you wish. If you wish to buy anything else, just select that item from that category. If you are satisfied with your selection(s) and your personal information is correct, click on the submit order button. The bytewarecafe.com server will respond with an order number and a time stamp. You will need these two numbers for any future correspondences with bytewarecafe.com Your order will be prepared and delivered to your door within 2-3 days. Thank you.
From: root@bytewarecafe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 32meg 70ns 72pin EDO simm for $140 Date: 31 Dec 1996 20:41:51 GMT Organization: bytewarecafe.com Message-ID: <5abtqf$82g@newman.pcisys.net> We are a new site on the internet and we can supply your hardware needs. As a promotion to get our name out to you, we are running a special promotion on 32Meg simms. For a very limited time, we are selling 32Meg/70ns EDO simms for just 140+shipping and handling, delivered to your door within 2-3 days. Just go to our site www.bytewarecafe.com and fill out the necessary information about yourself and your credit card information. Goto the products list and choose the memory item. From here, select the memory you want and click on the invoice button to see your total charges. If you wish to browse the other hardware categories, feel free to browse for as long as you wish. If you wish to buy anything else, just select that item from that category. If you are satisfied with your selection(s) and your personal information is correct, click on the submit order button. The bytewarecafe.com server will respond with an order number and a time stamp. You will need these two numbers for any future correspondences with bytewarecafe.com Your order will be prepared and delivered to your door within 2-3 days. Thank you.
From: "Jonathan D. Nolen" <nolen@snsnet.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Advice wanted: Mac user -> NeXT beginner Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:55:33 +0000 Organization: Southern Network Services Message-ID: <32C91B53.16F9@snsnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a dedicated Mac user and due to recent events, I have developed an acute interest in NeXT. I am interested in acquiring a low-end NeXT box to play around with. Before two days ago, I knew almost nothing about the NeXT platform, and I have a few questions that I hope someone can answer. Are the mono NeXT machines upgradeable to color? How would one go about this and how much would it cost? Most older systems seem to be bundled with hard drives of 100-300 mb capacities. Are these adequate? For instance, how large is the current version of the system? Speaking of the system, will OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach run on the older NeXT hardware? Are there any concerns about doing so? Are there significant disadvantages to running older versions of the system? Are the older NeXT machines ethernet capable out of the box, or do they require more hardware, like a NIC? I know that NeXT can mount Mac drives from an appletalk network, but can a Mac mount NeXT drives? Thank you for all your help, Jonathan D. Nolen noljd@rhodes.edu -or- nolen@snsnet.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9612311230.AA02088@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 96 13:30:54 +0100 Subject: Re: from NeXT PowerPC hardware (NeXTbrick) to Apple's Halo w/ 500Mhz Cc: jimmiequan@aol.com, HisMajesty <fatjelly@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> His Majesty??? <fatjelly@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> wrote: > NeXT had some unreleased PowerPC hardware. Does anyone know anything > about them like what happened? Yes, when NeXT had to drop their Hardware plans in the beginning of 1993 because of Apple & IBM putting pressure on Motorola, not to serve NeXT but Apple first (their HarwarePPC-design was still in the works until 1994) Canon has got the rights to all the future NeXTHardware, like the NeXTbrick and them Nitros (68040 - 40 Mhz - NeXTs)! Then a new startup company, called FirePower (they consisted of 150 People coming from NeXT, Canon and Apple) got the rights to the hardware. This year, in 1996, FirePower introduced the FirePower AustinPowerPlay^2, the spiritual descendent of the NeXTbrick, which was running WinNT on 2 PPCs as an SMP machine. FirePower said, that as soon as the PPCplatform spec. (formally known as PreP or CHRP - PPC Common Hardware Reference Platform) is finally set, it would be able to bring a Computer to market based on this new spec., within 4 weeks! Later down the road, Motorola aquired FirePower, so thats were the rights and the knowledge is today.... I am not sure if their (Motorolas) new MacOS-Clones are based on this design ( I believe not!). But the prototyes build by NeXT, I believe their were 4 of them, are sitting at some NeXTengineers home, which did port at least NeXTSTEP 3.3 on it in their spare time. But the Apple Halo machine with the Exponentials bipolar X704 - 500Mhz will bring Joy to the Apple / NeXT community. Maybe it will even be an SMP - Machine. W ho knows????? ;-) Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 --- REAL Computing is b(l)ack stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail, MIME and ASCII) with AppleSTEP! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news ---
From: bubba <bubba@imag.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: $Original Black$ Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 14:33:10 -0800 Organization: Cyberion Networking Corp. Message-ID: <32C994A6.316C@imag.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attention : Antique Dealers Original Black Hardware! NeXTstation color, keyboard, mouse, 17" Megapixel Color Monitor, Ext HD, CD ROM drive, Colour BJ Printer (360 dpi), Laser Printer (400 dpi), and lots of software (mostly graphics). All original boxes and manuals included!! Make me an offer I can't refuse. email : matthew@imag.net
From: buddyc@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice wanted: Mac user -> NeXT beginner Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 16:59:56 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <32C8496C.398F@ibm.net> References: <32C91B53.16F9@snsnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jonathan D. Nolen wrote: > > I am a dedicated Mac user and due to recent events, I have developed an > acute interest in NeXT. I am interested in acquiring a low-end NeXT box > to play around with. Before two days ago, I knew almost nothing about > the NeXT platform, and I have a few questions that I hope someone can > answer. > Are the mono NeXT machines upgradeable to color? How would one > go about this and how much would it cost? no ... with the exception of a Cube system. You may upgrade a cube system by purchasing a Dimension board and color monitor (+ soundbox if you choose to run it single headed). > Most older systems seem to be bundled with hard drives of > 100-300 mb capacities. Are these adequate? For instance, how large is > the current version of the system? not really ... depending on whether you go with user or user/developer you could use a lot more. It also depends of course on which applications and the type of work you will be doing on it. For nothing fancy (user only) ... 300 - 400MB will do. That will allow you to install the full OS and allow you some room to grow. > Speaking of the system, will OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach run on the > older NeXT hardware? Are there any concerns about doing so? Are there > significant disadvantages to running older versions of the system? yes. Openstep buys you compatibility with applications written for all the MACH platforms. Are the older NeXT machines ethernet capable out of the box, or > do they require more hardware, like a NIC? I know that NeXT can mount > Mac drives from an appletalk network, but can a Mac mount NeXT drives? out of the box with ethernet (all systems) > > Thank you for all your help, > Jonathan D. Nolen > noljd@rhodes.edu > -or- > nolen@snsnet.net
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