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From: ts110@pmms.cam.ac.uk (Tomaz Slivnik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Plextor 8X CD-ROM on NeXT Date: 30 Sep 1996 23:07:05 GMT Organization: Cambridge University, Pure Mathematics and Mathematical Statistics Message-ID: <52pjqp$3vb@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Thanks to everyone who has replied, either by posting or by e-mail. I feel much relieved to hear that there is nothing wrong with my drive! Thanks again, Tomaz Slivnik
From: Santino Rizzo <santino@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.oop.powerplant,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.mac.printing,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer.mtools,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.po Subject: Re: How to react to Money Scam Spam... Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:54:29 -0400 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <32505DB5.B26@earthlink.net> References: <510v1k$9g7@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> <Pine.LNX.3.95.960909110336.8569C-100000@nerc3.nerc.com> <steve-0909961950330001@brecher.reno.nv.us> <3234BD72.5A3F@primenet.com> <nospam-ya023080001609961530250001@news.itd.umich.edu> <cw028212-1609962118150001@192.0.2.1> <mouser-1809961350130001@204.191.6.170> <R.ashley-2109960955460001@news.gate.net> <3248175D.2C49@hp4700.desk.hp.com> <324EE30E.32B0@hort.cri.nz> <rmah-3009960028330001@axe.angel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert S. Mah wrote: > > amcnaughton@hort.cri.nz wrote: > > > Under New Zealand law (privacy act), it is Illegal for a company > > to divulge personal details, including any form of address, without > > written consent from the individual to who the information pertains. > > Is there any parallel legislation in the US? > > Hell, in the U.S. companies SELL such information to third parties. > It is a very common practice in many industries. A noteable example > would include most publishers. > > Cheers, > Rob > ..................................................................... > Robert S. Mah 212-366-0881 > Angel Networks, Inc. rmah@angel.net I would have to agree here. The entire premise behind the most popular scam today is that you send your address and $1 to five names on a list asking each of them to include your name and address on a mailing list. This makes the scam legal, whether the sell the mailing list or not doesn't matter.
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dual processors Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:39:10 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <DyLC5B.HH2@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <UmI4Zyy00UhBM2j4hV@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <UmI4Zyy00UhBM2j4hV@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > Mach ("the kernel") was designed to support SMP-- NeXT has never > released a version of NEXTSTEP with the kernel configured for with SMP > support. > > There's a difference. :-) I was told (off the record, but in official meeting with NeXT technical staff), that SMP would be in 4.0. This meeting took place about 12 months ago. At the time it was secret, but I guess it's a bit irrelevant now. It's one of the many things that were lost when NeXT decided not to release the kernel upgrade :-( $an
From: john@wpa.com (John Bartley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ailing Intel GX/Pro Date: 1 Oct 1996 14:50:06 GMT Organization: -=MO.NET=- MVP-Net, Inc's Missouri Operations Message-ID: <52rb2u$9a0@twain.mo.net> My Intel GX/Pro began suffering lengthy "IDE timeouts" that would last 6 - 10 minutes, and then recur at varying intervals numerous times per day. Then it starting emitting errors at boot time saying "no boot device", "hard disk 0 failure" and other similar messages. A second or third attempt to boot might finally work, but the timeouts would continue. I thought that the error messages were accurate about the problem being the hard drive, so I took out the old Micropolis 1 GB drive and replaced it with a brand new Western Digital drive that was known good and works fine in other machines. To my dismay, same problem. IDE timeouts, no boot device, etc. This would seem to indicate that the problem is not the disk drive, but the controller itself, wouldn't it? If that turns out to be the case, what are the options? Is there an easy and inexpensive way to get this computer working again?
From: Shawn P. Henning <shenning@nmt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 17" Megapixal Color Problems Date: 1 Oct 1996 17:51:37 GMT Organization: New Mexico Tech Distribution: World Message-ID: <52rln9$eod@newshost.nmt.edu> I have a NeXTstation Color with a 17" Magapixal monitor that is not working. When I turn it on for the first time I hear a sound like it is degaussing. If I turn it off and on afterwards I just hear is click as I push the power button. I can't hear any other noises. If I unplug the monitor and wait a while, then turn it back on I get the degaussing sound again. Does anybody have any idea about what is wrong with this thing. Is it completely dead. Can I get it fixed? Does anybody want it for parts? Where can I get a new one? Please let me know if you have any suggestions. Email is probably the best method. -- () () () () () Shawn P. Henning () () () () () () 1006 Rocky Road ()()() ()()() home: (505) 838-2520 Socorro, NM 87801 () _* () fax: (505) 835-5587 www.nmt.edu/~shenning/ () ( ) () email: shenning@nmt.edu
From: kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Treasure) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT ISDN with non-NeXT machines? Date: 1 Oct 1996 13:26:48 -0700 Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO Message-ID: <52ruq8$1ds@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> Can you get the ISDN for NeXTStep to communicate with non-NeXT machines? Basically we have an Ascend Pipeline 50 that we want the NeXT to talk to to get to the other network... but all the information I get is how to make the NeXT talk to another NeXT. Can it be done or do I have to put another NeXT at the other end to and use it to let the other NeXT talk to machines on that network. -Kristin -- THIS IS A 100% MATTER PRODUCT: In the Unlikely Event That This Merchandise Should Contact Antimatter in Any Form, a Catastrophic Explosion Will Result. http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~kamundse/
From: "Glenn P. Davis" <davis@unidata.ucar.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does the 3COM Etherlink III driver support PCI? (NS 4.0) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:15:30 -0600 Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research/Boulder, CO Message-ID: <32519802.41C6@unidata.ucar.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just loaded OPENSTEP for Mach Intel Processors Release 4.0 on a new machine. The machine has a 3COM 3C509-COMBO PCI ethernet card. This is an "Etherlink III" card. NeXTanswer #2161 http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2161.htmld/2161.html says that the EtherLink3 driver is ISA, EISA, no mention of PCI. Configure.app does not offer this driver as a default. Am I out of luck with this card or is there some way to use the existing driver? Thanks. Glenn P. Davis davis@unidata.ucar.edu UCAR / Unidata PO Box 3000 3300 Mitchell Lane, Suite 170 Boulder, CO 80307-3000 Boulder, CO 80301 (303) 497 8643
From: Santino Rizzo <santino@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.oop.powerplant,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.mac.printing,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer.mtools,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.po Subject: Re: How to react to Money Scam Spam... Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 18:10:01 -0400 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <325196B9.3E60@earthlink.net> References: <510v1k$9g7@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> <Pine.LNX.3.95.960909110336.8569C-100000@nerc3.nerc.com> <steve-0909961950330001@brecher.reno.nv.us> <3234BD72.5A3F@primenet.com> <nospam-ya023080001609961530250001@news.itd.umich.edu> <cw028212-1609962118150001@192.0.2.1> <mouser-1809961350130001@204.191.6.170> <R.ashley-2109960955460001@news.gate.net> <3248175D.2C49@hp4700.desk.hp.com> <324EE30E.32B0@hort.cri.nz> <rmah-3009960028330001@axe.angel.net> <32505DB5.B26@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Santino Rizzo wrote: > > Robert S. Mah wrote: > > > > amcnaughton@hort.cri.nz wrote: > > > > > Under New Zealand law (privacy act), it is Illegal for a company > > > to divulge personal details, including any form of address, without > > > written consent from the individual to who the information pertains. > > > Is there any parallel legislation in the US? > > > > Hell, in the U.S. companies SELL such information to third parties. > > It is a very common practice in many industries. A noteable example > > would include most publishers. > > > > Cheers, > > Rob > > ..................................................................... > > Robert S. Mah 212-366-0881 > > Angel Networks, Inc. rmah@angel.net > > I would have to agree here. The entire premise behind the most popular scam today is > that you send your address and $1 to five names on a list asking each of them to include > your name and address on a mailing list. This makes the scam legal, whether the sell the > mailing list or not doesn't matter. I must apologize for my post to USENET. My intention was to sarcasticly ask if that made the scam legal. I made an error in typing the message and obviously made the wrong impression. I have researched the legality of the MMF scam, but have found that there's a lot of uncertainty concerning the use of the Internet, and only recently has any prosecution begun (and weak prosecution at that). As a MLM entrepreneur, I would like to caution many of the people eager to "witchhunt" others using the Internet for MLM purposes, a majority of our endeavors are perfectly legal and safe to invest in.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: Re: 17" Megapixal Color Problems Message-ID: <3251C832.794B@goldengate.net> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 18:41:06 -0700 References: <52rln9$eod@newshost.nmt.edu> Organization: transwarp MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Shawn P. Henning" <shenning@nmt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, I hate to point out the possibly obvious but is the degauss button stuck/sticky? Do you have the N4001 monitor? (That's what I have and haven't seen any other models). The button on mine looks like it could pretty easily get stuck. Shawn P. Henning wrote: > > I have a NeXTstation Color with a 17" Magapixal monitor that is not working. > When I turn it on for the first time I hear a sound like it is degaussing. If > I turn it off and on afterwards I just hear is click as I push the power > button. I can't hear any other noises. > > If I unplug the monitor and wait a while, then turn it back on I get the > degaussing sound again. > > Does anybody have any idea about what is wrong with this thing. Is it > completely dead. Can I get it fixed? Does anybody want it for parts? Where > can I get a new one? > > Please let me know if you have any suggestions. Email is probably the best > method. --- MATT | mailto:invisix@goldengate.net ** living a microsoft ** jurcich | http://www.goldengate.net/~invisix ** free lifestyle ** Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 32MB, 1.5GB, 17" Fimi, NEXTSTEP 3.2
From: Christian Callsen <ccallsen@eng.sun.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT ISDN with non-NeXT machines? Date: 01 Oct 1996 17:11:49 -0700 Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Sender: ccallsen@amber-gate Message-ID: <dztpw32rzqy.fsf@eng.sun.com> References: <52ruq8$1ds@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Kristin) writes: > > > Can you get the ISDN for NeXTStep to communicate with non-NeXT machines? Yup - I'm doing it from home. > Basically we have an Ascend Pipeline 50 that we want the NeXT to > talk to to get to the other network... but all the information I get is how > to make the NeXT talk to another NeXT. I also use an Ascend Pipeline 50 box connected to my NeXT via 10 Base-T. > Can it be done or do I have to put another NeXT at the other end to and use > it to let the other NeXT talk to machines on that network. I can connect to Suns and other NeXTstations. What do you mean by "talk". You have to set up correct name server resolution in /etc/resolv.conf - otherwise your machine cannot connect to other hosts. I haven't tried automounting stuff, but I'd expect it to work, but you might want to limit the buffer size on the Suns (NeXT's nfsd is old). -Christian -- "The solution used to be to ask everyone on the Net. But then he graduated!?!" "Faced with panic & terror, the solution was to `get connected'..." Christian J. Callsen [ Christian.Callsen@Eng.Sun.COM ] ---- Sm:^le & Be Happy Sun Microsystems SunSoft/NEO,2550 Garcia Av. MPK 18-209,Mountain View CA 94043
From: kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Treasure) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 030 and NS 3.3??? Date: 1 Oct 1996 18:27:03 -0700 Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO Message-ID: <52sgd7$dtg@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> I am sure you can do it, and it'll run dog slow, but any ideas on how much memory you need to get it to work? I am trying to troubleshoot performance issues with my 030 and NS 3.3... I think it is a memory problem, but am not certain. -Kristin -- THIS IS A 100% MATTER PRODUCT: In the Unlikely Event That This Merchandise Should Contact Antimatter in Any Form, a Catastrophic Explosion Will Result. http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~kamundse/
From: nospam@spammer-suck.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.oop.powerplant,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.mac.printing,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer.mtools,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.po Subject: Re: How to react to Money Scam Spam... Date: 2 Oct 1996 01:50:25 GMT Organization: Sojourn Systems, Lansing, MI (USA) Message-ID: <52shp1$d2@tkhut.sojourn.com> References: <510v1k$9g7@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> <Pine.LNX.3.95.960909110336.8569C-100000@nerc3.nerc.com> <steve-0909961950330001@brecher.reno.nv.us> <3234BD72.5A3F@primenet.com> <nospam-ya023080001609961530250001@news.itd.umich.edu> <cw028212-1609962118150001@192.0.2.1> <mouser-1809961350130001@204.191.6.170> <R.ashley-2109960955460001@news.gate.net> <3248175D.2C49@hp4700.desk.hp.com> <324EE30E.32B0@hort.cri.nz> <rmah-3009960028330001@axe.angel.net> <32505DB5.B26@earthlink.net> <325196B9.3E60@earthlink.net> Cc: santino@earthlink.net In <325196B9.3E60@earthlink.net> Santino Rizzo wrote: > Santino Rizzo wrote: > I must apologize for my post to USENET. My intention was to sarcasticly ask if that made > the scam legal. I made an error in typing the message and obviously made the wrong > impression. I have researched the legality of the MMF scam, but have found that there's > a lot of uncertainty concerning the use of the Internet, and only recently has any > prosecution begun (and weak prosecution at that). As a MLM entrepreneur, I would like > to caution many of the people eager to "witchhunt" others using the Internet for MLM > purposes, a majority of our endeavors are perfectly legal and safe to invest in. I send every Money Scam I see (about 10 per day) to the IRS, (Internal Revenue Service), they can sort out the addresses and see if the people are paying taxes on the money they claim to be getting.... (oh, I also send a copy with a note to their ISP, and to the FBI, BTW.....) Now that would be illegal if you don't claim it on your taxes, in the USA.... hehehehehe 8-)
From: batmon@abico.com.tw (Mon-Sen Yang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hook up a BJ printer on black NeXT machine Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 03:42:28 GMT Organization: j%nki~w€RJ3M-26XPLZ8L-BFGD44CT-1EA6BC82 Message-ID: <52srm0$c3a@netnews.hinet.net> Hi, Is it possible to hook up a bubble jet printer to NeXT mach machine? If so, what software should I use and where can I get the printer cable to connect? P.S. it would be even better if there is a pin-layout graph for the printer cable. Thank you for all your help Best Regards, Mon-Sen Yang (Batmon)
From: Sidsel Regnell <sidsel.regnell@admin.uio.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP??Difficult Boot Problems Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 09:16:52 -2051 Organization: University of Oslo, Norway Message-ID: <3351C98C.4F9A@hp2.econ.cbs.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Everyone I have unfortunately had a major panic on my system and since that happened I have not been able to enter my system which is slightly annoying, but the problem is that the normal boot process (bsd) reaches checking disks and starts running the fsck -p and the traps/panic. It then show the following message: -Checking disks -trap: type 0x2c fcode 2 rw 1 faultaddr 0x500f068 -trap: pc0x4002e2c sp0x3fffc30 sr 0x201b -trap: cpu0 th 0x10137f70 proc 0x101338f0 pid 11 pcb 0x101380fc -traceback: fp 0x101386f0 -called from pc 0x00180505 fp 0x03fffc6c 4-args 429a30dc 03fffc60 00000000 00000000 -last fp: 0x3fffc6c -panic:(Cpu0) 1111 emulator trap -NeXT ROM Monitor 2,2 v63 -panic> I have also tried to boot in single-user mode (bsd -s) and have gotten to see the files on the disk in the mach window, but then when I try to run fsck (-p,-P and with no flag) it starts to run the fsck, but after a little while it panics and shows the same message as mentioned above. I have also tried to boot from the orginal NS3,3 boot floppy and CD, but when I do that it comes up with a different problem. That problem message is as follows: -NeXT>bfd -boot fd(0,0,0) -Searching for CD-ROM drives -blk0 boot: sd(1,0,0)sdmach -trap 11 at pc0x43825b0, sr0x2714 -d0 0xffffffe6 a0 0x43aa206 -d1 0x10 a1 0x439f510 -d2 0x0 a2 0x43aa200 -d3 0x0 a3 0x43aa1fc -d4 0x43aa1fc a4 0x43972a0 -d5 0x438a03c a5 0x0 -d6 0x2 a6 0x43bbf5c -d7 0x1000 a7 0x43bbf38 What ever this problem is I am not knowledgeable enough to understand what has happened and how to solve it. Any help from everyone out there is greatly appreciated. I have asked a friend about this problem, but he was as bewildered as I am. Thank you very much for you help. Regards Knut-Erik Regnell knre95ab@hp2.econ.cbs.dk
From: carl.gustafson@no.spam.welcome (Carl Gustafson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.oop.powerplant,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.mac.printing,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer.mtools,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.po Subject: Re: How to react to Money Scam Spam... Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 12:25:44 -0400 Organization: Imaging and Computer Vision Center, Drexel University Message-ID: <carl.gustafson-0210961225440001@n1-12-184.macip.drexel.edu> References: <510v1k$9g7@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> <Pine.LNX.3.95.960909110336.8569C-100000@nerc3.nerc.com> <steve-0909961950330001@brecher.reno.nv.us> <3234BD72.5A3F@primenet.com> <nospam-ya023080001609961530250001@news.itd.umich.edu> <cw028212-1609962118150001@192.0.2.1> <mouser-1809961350130001@204.191.6.170> <R.ashley-2109960955460001@news.gate.net> <3248175D.2C49@hp4700.desk.hp.com> <324EE30E.32B0@hort.cri.nz> <rmah-3009960028330001@axe.angel.net> In article <rmah-3009960028330001@axe.angel.net>, rmah@angel.net (Robert S. Mah) wrote: > amcnaughton@hort.cri.nz wrote: > > > Under New Zealand law (privacy act), it is Illegal for a company > > to divulge personal details, including any form of address, without > > written consent from the individual to who the information pertains. > > Is there any parallel legislation in the US? > > Hell, in the U.S. companies SELL such information to third parties. > It is a very common practice in many industries. A noteable example > would include most publishers. The difference is that New Zealand is a CIVILIZED country. (GDR) -- Carl Gustafson carl.gustafson at ece.drexel.edu (busily trying to avoid spammers) Imaging and Computer Vision Center Drexel University, Philadelphia, Penna ------------------------------------------------------------ I don't speak for Drexel, and Drexel doesn't listen to me...
From: gfoster@gfoster.com (Glen Foster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black mouse repair questions Date: 02 Oct 1996 12:33:06 -0400 Organization: Self-Employed Consultant Sender: gfoster@sheldon Message-ID: <lohgodmim5.fsf@sheldon> I have a couple of black mice that have failed identically. The signal wires have parted in the cable in or near the strain relief on the mouse itself. I was able to fix one of them by soldering and shrink-tubing the signal wires but would rather perform a more elegant repair on the other. Does anybody have specs/sources for the crimp connectors for the internal mouse tail connector? I am not real familiar with these sub-sub-micro connectors (or whatever they are called). Any "tips and tricks" for repairing these critters would be appreciated as well. Mail is probably better for an arcane subject like this, I will summarize if interest is exhibited. TIA, Glen Foster <gfoster@gfoster.com>
From: alvin@cse.ucsc.edu (Alvin Jee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 030 and NS 3.3??? Date: 2 Oct 1996 17:23:08 GMT Organization: UC Santa Cruz CIS/CE Message-ID: <52u8ds$38e@darkstar.ucsc.edu> References: <52sgd7$dtg@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> In article <52sgd7$dtg@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu>, Treasure <kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> wrote: >I am sure you can do it, and it'll run dog slow, but any ideas on >how much memory you need to get it to work? >I am trying to troubleshoot performance issues with my 030 and NS 3.3... >I think it is a memory problem, but am not certain. I'm running 3.3 on my 030 cube. Runs fine, although it is pretty slow. It's used mainly as a print server, so I don't care _that_ much that the system is slow (I have to print out my thesis by _what_ time?) :) In fact, Frame ran ok on it. Forget about running OmniWeb, though. I had 12M at first. No problems. Went up to 16M--didn't really notice any improvements. I do have conflicting info about what the max memory for the 030 is. The manuals claim 16M max. I thought I saw posts saying you can get 64M into the 030. -- -- Alvin Jee alvin@cse.ucsc.edu NeXTMail gleefully accepted!
From: losev@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (andrei losev) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: black hardware doesn't register CD drive? Date: 2 Oct 1996 19:16:39 GMT Organization: Yale University Message-ID: <52uf2n$lbh@news.ycc.yale.edu> One of our NextStations (25 MHz, running NS 3.2, connected to a Next CD-ROM model N3010 set to SCSI ID = 1) seems to have had its disk corrupted. We can't re-install NextStep, because the CD drive isn't being registered: when booting from floppy to begin installation, we get an error message "no CD drive is attached to this machine". Any help available out there? Many thanks, -- Andrei Lossev, Yale Particle Theory Group
From: scott@bcog.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does the 3COM Etherlink III driver support PCI? (NS 4.0) Date: 2 Oct 1996 20:09:06 GMT Organization: British Columbia OpenStep Group Message-ID: <52ui52$d7q@news.bctel.net> References: <32519802.41C6@unidata.ucar.edu> From: "Glenn P. Davis" <davis@unidata.ucar.edu> Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research/Boulder, CO Subject: Does the 3COM Etherlink III driver support PCI? (NS 4.0) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 16:15:30 -0600 Just loaded OPENSTEP for Mach Intel Processors Release 4.0 on a new machine. The machine has a 3COM 3C509-COMBO PCI ethernet card. This is an "Etherlink III" card. NeXTanswer #2161 http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2161.htmld/2161.html says that the EtherLink3 driver is ISA, EISA, no mention of PCI. Configure.app does not offer this driver as a default. Am I out of luck with this card or is there some way to use the existing driver? Thanks. Glenn P. Davis davis@unidata.ucar.edu UCAR / Unidata PO Box 3000 3300 Mitchell Lane, Suite 170 Boulder, CO 80307-3000 Boulder, CO 80301 (303) 497 8643 - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - I had the same problem .....no driver. I was lucky and saw Intel's $45 special PRO100 cards (promo offer) so I got a refund on the 3Coms. Now I discovered I must get a Ethernet Hub (RJ45) ..the BNC connections allow for direct connections as the terminators fit on the connectors. If you are going this route I suggest getting a 10 MBPS Hub for now....the 100MBPS hubs cost as much as an entire Pentium system.
From: TPP109@PSU.EDU (Tom Priore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: dual booting help needed. Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 22:18:14 GMT Organization: "CARDEROCKDIV CDNSWC" Message-ID: <3252e956.4869318@oasys.navsses.navy.mil> i have a computer with 2 hdd, both ide. the first on has win95. (the only reason its installed is i need it of some office apps at work. i would like to install next on the other drive. now 95 is already installed and configured, and i have linux on the other drive. i plan on blowing linux away for the next install. Can I install next and dual boot with out having to distroy my first win95 (dos) partition? thanks for any help Tom Priore NSWC-CD SSES Code 9336
From: Bin <binclare@iconn.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: next error message, help! Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 21:21:27 -0400 Organization: i-conn Message-ID: <32531517.2B49@iconn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit can anyone help me with an error message i get when i try to start my NeXT Cube? it does not boot into the os, it gets stuck on the "loading from disk" screen and searches for the "boot_rc" did i delete something? what is wrong. i am a new user of the next system can anyone help? please, please try to help, email me -thanx
From: mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: black hardware doesn't register CD drive? Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 02:35:39 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <52v915$117@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <52uf2n$lbh@news.ycc.yale.edu> losev@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (andrei losev) wrote: > One of our NextStations (25 MHz, running NS 3.2, connected to >a Next CD-ROM model N3010 set to SCSI ID = 1) seems to have had >its disk corrupted. We can't re-install NextStep, because the >CD drive isn't being registered: when booting from floppy to >begin installation, we get an error message "no CD drive is >attached to this machine". Any help available out there? Try setting the CD-ROM drive to a higher ID number (e.g. 4). The internal drive is normally set to SCSI ID 1 in a NeXTStation. With both devices set to the same ID, you'll probably see what looks like corrupted data, and the CD-ROM won't be properly identified. By the way, the SCSI ID is only vaguely related to the logical disk. The lowest ID (usually 1, sometimes 0 on older Cubes) becomes sd0, the next lowest ID becomes sd1, etc. Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@pacbell.net Personal E-mail mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: Robert Wong <rwong@direct.cq> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any way to read DOS Zip disks on black? Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 23:13:14 -0700 Organization: Totally Disorganized Inc. Message-ID: <3253597A.861@direct.cq> References: <51d2lk$o8s@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <51dbci$fs8@news.istar.ca> <52edhi$crt@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <52f0ed$imt@news.istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jean-Paul Samson wrote: > Unfortunately, I only have NEXTSTEP 3.2 so I can't confirm that 3.3 > does indeed feature DOS-formatted removable drive support. I received > this information second-hand. Would any of the more up-to-date users > like to confirm or deny that NEXTSTEP 3.3/OPENSTEP 4.0 supports > DOS-formatted removable cartridge drives? Actually, I managed to get my Zip drive working on my NS 3.2 cube. To read the DOS formatted disks, you need to FTP the file system patch from NeXT. It will allow you to have/see filesystems that are larger than 32Mb. RWW.
From: Robert Wong <rwong@direct.cq> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: zip drive Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 23:17:13 -0700 Organization: Totally Disorganized Inc. Message-ID: <32535A69.6F77@direct.cq> References: <52cmfv$f0a@newstand.syr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit L Gaunce Lewis Jr wrote: > > I'm running Nextstep 3.2 on a Nextstation Turbo. I have just attached a zip drive. It > seems to work fine for Next and Mac filesystems, but I can't get it to read DOS formatted > zip disks. I really want to do this because I want to port stuff between my PC at home and > my next in the office. Has anyone had any luck on this? Just FTP the DOs filesystem patch from NeXT. It will allow you to read/see DOS filesystems that are greater than 32Mb. RWW.
From: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Wilkie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FYI - minimal ZIP drive support 4 NeXT Date: 3 Oct 1996 12:14:37 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <530and$l0t@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi newsgroup! The software in question is still rather raw, so it's not for c.s.n.a yet, but I've uploaded v 1.0 of "ziptool" (wow, what an imaginative name!) to ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/submissions All it can do at the moment is to set/remove the write protection of ZIP disks from the command line. It is for Intel only at the moment because the SCSI2_Kit I used gives you some weird warnings when compiled quad-fat. See the README file for details. In addition to the planned changes metioned there I'll try to add JAZ support as well; this should bring about a re-name. Alexander Wilkie -- e-mail: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME o.k.) www : http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~wilkie/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars A. Stole) Subject: Problems making a bootable JAZ disk Message-ID: <DypKF5.F17@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:28:17 GMT I'm currently trying to use Next's Builddisk.app to build a bootable JAZ disk with the NeXT file system. I have looked at the NeXTAnswers on this subject and have followed (I think), but with no luck. Specifically, I (1) run the prebuildjaz.script (which inserts an IOMEGA JAZ disktab entry, etc.) (2) load a Next-formatted and initialized JAZ disk (i.e., already previously having run "sdform /dev/rsd2a" and "disk -i -t IOMEGAJAZ-1G /dev/rsd2a"), (3) I "umount" the JAZ disk (4) I start up Builddisk.app. The Builddisk.app has the JAZ disk in the browser, but when I press "build", nothing happens. ????? Any ideas as to where I'm going wrong would be greatly appreciated.
From: sneal@ichips.intel.com (Scott M. Neal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 030 and NS 3.3??? Date: 3 Oct 1996 16:13:05 GMT Organization: Intel Development Labs, INTeL Corporation Message-ID: <slrn557pbq.eaf.sneal@dtthp173.jf.intel.com> References: <52sgd7$dtg@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> <52u8ds$38e@darkstar.ucsc.edu> On 2 Oct 1996 17:23:08 GMT, Alvin Jee wrote: >In article <52sgd7$dtg@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu>, >Treasure <kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> wrote: >>I am sure you can do it, and it'll run dog slow, but any ideas on >>how much memory you need to get it to work? >>I am trying to troubleshoot performance issues with my 030 and NS 3.3... >>I think it is a memory problem, but am not certain. > > I'm running 3.3 on my 030 cube. Runs fine, although it is pretty slow. >It's used mainly as a print server, so I don't care _that_ much that the >system is slow (I have to print out my thesis by _what_ time?) :) In >fact, Frame ran ok on it. Forget about running OmniWeb, though. I have 24MB in my '030 cube, and I found 3.3 to run unacceptably slow, and downgraded back to 2.1! Then again, I was trying to use it as my one-and-only computer, not as a dedicated print server or for occasional Frame... > I had 12M at first. No problems. Went up to 16M--didn't really notice >any improvements. I do have conflicting info about what the max memory >for the 030 is. The manuals claim 16M max. I thought I saw posts >saying you can get 64M into the 030. There are 16 slots, each of which are capable of taking 1 or 4MB 30 pin SIMMS for a total of 64MB. The last run of NeXTs with '040s were the only NeXTs that could do better, with 4 72 pin SIMM slots that supported 4, 8, 16, and 32 MB SIMMS, for a potential total of 128MB. Scott
From: sfoy@zoology.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Keyboard Problem. Date: 3 Oct 1996 17:32:05 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <530tal$iip@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi, I have a NextStation TurboColour. The keyboard is very slow to respond - I have to hold each key down for at least 1/2 sec. I have tried another keyboard but without success. Anyone have any ideas as to what the source of this problem may be?? Regards, Shaun. -- ___________________________________________________________________ \ o / o __| \ / |__ o \ o / | -/\ ___\o \ o | o / o/___ /\- | / \ | \ /) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / | / \
From: swill@asic.sc.ti.com (Scott Williams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: EDO RAM Date: 3 Oct 1996 12:24:18 -0500 Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. Message-ID: <530ss2$ov@phaser.asic.sc.ti.com> Will EDO RAM work with a 68040 25MHz Next? -- ____________________________________________________________________________ \ Scott T. Williams \ P.O. Box 660199 \ e-mail:swill@asic.sc.ti.com / \ Texas Instruments, INC. \ M/S 8664 \ Phone:(972)480-4427 / \ ASIC Test Development \ Dallas, TX 75266 \ Fax:(972)480-4406 / \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Paul Lynch <Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk> Subject: Re: black hardware doesn't register CD drive? Message-ID: <1996Oct3.185931.10463@seer.demon.co.uk> Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Organization: P & L Systems References: <52v915$117@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:59:31 GMT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware In article <52v915$117@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> mpaque@pacbell.net (Mike Paquette) writes: > losev@genesis5.physics.yale.edu (andrei losev) wrote: > > > One of our NextStations (25 MHz, running NS 3.2, connected to > >a Next CD-ROM model N3010 set to SCSI ID = 1) seems to have had > >its disk corrupted. We can't re-install NextStep, because the > >CD drive isn't being registered: when booting from floppy to > >begin installation, we get an error message "no CD drive is > >attached to this machine". Any help available out there? > > Try setting the CD-ROM drive to a higher ID number (e.g. 4). The > internal drive is normally set to SCSI ID 1 in a NeXTStation. With > both devices set to the same ID, you'll probably see what looks like > corrupted data, and the CD-ROM won't be properly identified. The odds are pretty good that, if you did have both the CD and the disk set to ID 1, the disk will be corrupted. It's lucky that you already want to reinstall over it :-). -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9610031810.AA05027@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 96 19:10:32 +0100 Subject: Q: How can one tell the diff. if a NeXT 17inch Color Mon. is FIMI or Sony? Cc: <tim@dancingbear.COM> Hi there, subjects says it all! How can one tell the difference if a NeXT 17inch Color Mon. is FIMI or Sony? -- by Serial number??? -- by Model No.?? Pls. answer via e-mail, to stefan@huelf.hamburg.com since I seldom have time to read this newsgroup!! Do you know this, Timothy??? Thanx in advance --- Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but --- REAL Computing is black! stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail, MIME and ASCII) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: next error message, help! Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961003162318.2236A-100000@charisma> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:24:22 -0400 References: <32531517.2B49@iconn.net> To: Bin <binclare@iconn.net> In-Reply-To: <32531517.2B49@iconn.net> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try booting in verbose mode hold down both command keys and press the ~ key (the key over the 7 key on the keypad). Then enter bsd at the boot prompt. That will give you a clearer idea of what the boot problem is, and then you can tell us ;-) TjL On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Bin wrote: > Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 21:21:27 -0400 > From: Bin <binclare@iconn.net> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > Subject: next error message, help! > > can anyone help me with an error message i get when i try to start my > NeXT Cube? it does not boot into the os, it gets stuck on the "loading > from disk" screen and searches for the "boot_rc" did i delete something? > what is wrong. i am a new user of the next system can anyone help? > please, please try to help, email me -thanx > > >
From: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us (Peter W. Borders) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Telneting into NeXT Slab, emulation problem Date: 3 Oct 1996 21:41:20 GMT Organization: Tidewater Community College Distribution: world Message-ID: <531bu0$fr8@usenet79.supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having a rather strange problem when telneting into my NeXT slab running 3.2. The vt100 emulation seems to think it has a status line (like a real vt100) which is fine, but certain programs (less) cause all output to end up on the status line. All output from less is on one line (scrolls REAL fast :-( ) and all output until a clear screen is only on one line (makes it real hard to use). I have tried replacing the termcap file with one from my Linux machine, no help. I have tried telnet from Linux, telnet from OS/2 and NSCA telnet from DOS and they all do the same thing. All three work fine telneting into my Linux boxes so it is not the client end of things. Any pointers or help would be much appreciated. Pete Borders
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any way to read DOS Zip disks on black? Date: 3 Oct 1996 22:36:19 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <531f53$slj@news.istar.ca> References: <51d2lk$o8s@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <51dbci$fs8@news.istar.ca> <52edhi$crt@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <52f0ed$imt@news.istar.ca> <3253597A.861@direct.cq> In-Reply-To: <3253597A.861@direct.cq> On 10/02/96, Robert Wong wrote: >Actually, I managed to get my Zip drive working on my NS 3.2 cube. >To read the DOS formatted disks, you need to FTP the file system >patch from NeXT. It will allow you to have/see filesystems that are >larger than 32Mb. That's fortunate for you. I have this patch installed on my NS 3.2 machine, but my machine can't recognize DOS Syquest EZ135 cartridges (or at the very least, can't initialize them to DOS format). I'll be upgrading my NeXT to OPENSTEP 4.0 this weekend, so this should fix my problems. -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul Samson -==- jsamson@istar.ca -==- NeXTmail welcome, no MIME -===================================================================-
From: sherwood@arafel.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2 memory questions for black hardware Date: 3 Oct 1996 23:08:14 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <531h0u$100c@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <52c14n$bhq@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> Treasure (kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu) wrote: : I have a 040 and an 030 board for my cube. : Both take 30 pinn SIMMs : 1) What is the largest size SIMM the machine can use? I was told 32MB but : I am not sure. The largest size I've seen mentioned in anything from Next is 4 MB, BUT the FAQ for NextDimension boards says that the ND board would run with 8M SIMMS, although this was never blessed by Next. When Black was the True Color, I don't think that single sided SIMMS in values above 4 MB existed. I don't think that a double sided SIMM will fit on a NextStation mother board. QUESTION: Has anyone tried running 16 MB 30 pin SIMMS in a Nextstation? : 2) What is the minimum amount of memory I need on the boards to make them : useable? Right now the 030 has none (I just got it) and the 040 has 16MB, : which I want to increase. Most of my machines are set up with 20. They came with 8, so I replaced 4 of the 1MB simms with 4MB simms. The resale value of the 1MB simms was so small, it seemed to make mroe sense to keep them in the machine at least half of them. Sherwood Botsford |Unsolicited email that advertises commercial Physics Dept |activities will consitute a request for U of Alberta |spellchecking of all words of less than three Edmonton, AB, |characters. I charge $US500 for this service. T6G 2J1 |There is no warranty of correctness of this service.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: Re: Q: How can one tell the diff. if a NeXT 17inch Color Mon. is FIMI orSony? Message-ID: <32547339.3F54@goldengate.net> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 19:15:21 -0700 References: <9610031810.AA05027@huelf.hamburg.com> Organization: transwarp MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, When I purchased my system, they seller said it was a Fimi. The model is N4001. Manufacture date is November 1991. It does not have a NeXT symbol on the front of it, but it does have it screen printed in white on the back of the monitor. Hope that helps! If you do find out any hard differences between the two models, I'd be interested in knowing! Later. Stefan Huelf wrote: > > Hi there, > > subjects says it all! > > How can one tell the difference if a NeXT 17inch Color Mon. is FIMI > or Sony? > > -- by Serial number??? > > -- by Model No.?? > > Pls. answer via e-mail, to stefan@huelf.hamburg.com > > since I seldom have time to read this newsgroup!! > > Do you know this, Timothy??? > > Thanx in advance > > --- > > Thanx, Later + > Greetings from > .. Stefan .. 8^) > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but > --- REAL Computing is black! > stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail, MIME and ASCII) > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- MATT | mailto:invisix@goldengate.net ** living a microsoft ** jurcich | http://www.goldengate.net/~invisix ** free lifestyle ** Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 32MB, 1.5GB, 17" Fimi, NEXTSTEP 3.2
From: ttoe0057@rz.uni-hildesheim.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: dual booting help needed. Date: 4 Oct 1996 00:00:22 GMT Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <531k2m$fqa@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> References: <3252e956.4869318@oasys.navsses.navy.mil> Keywords: dual boot, NT, 95, startup disk, second disk TPP109@PSU.EDU (Tom Priore) wrote: > Can I install next and dual boot with out having to distroy my >first win95 (dos) partition? Yes, you can... but not that easy. You need a boot-manager. You may use LiLo or the Windows NT boot-manager (OS Loader). Lilo has a builtin support for booting from second hdd (bootb). If you plan to use the NT boot-manager (better choice IMHO), you will need a program that allows booting from the second hdd. What a fortune, I just wrote such a program ;-). Here comes a short description on how you may install NeXTstep with your configuration. ------------------------------------------------------------------ SounDWorX NeXTstep loader 1.0.0 ------------------------------- Using this boot-program and the Windows NT Bootmanager, you can boot your NeXTstep from drive 81h (D:). In fact you can not just use it for NeXTstep but for any OS that needs to have its boot drive on 80h (C:). If you have your NeXTstep on drive 80h and just want to use the NT Bootmanager, you don't need my boot-loader. All you have to do is use a disk-editor and get your primary bootsector (physical: Cyl:0,Head:0,Sect:1) into a file and add it to your C:\BOOT.INI file (as done in step 7). The SounDWorX NeXTstep loader does fairly simple things: It installs an interrupt-handler for software INT 13h (BIOS drive functions). This little program patches the drive parameter for all functions (proc.reg. DL) from x0h to x1h (and vice versa) and then calls the original INT 13h handler. So if any program tries to load a sector from your first HDD, it will in fact load it from the second HDD. I found this trick in BOOTB.BIN (LiLo) and implemented it in my own boot-loader. (don't know the original author) If you want to install NeXTstep on your second harddrive you have to do some work to get it runnning. ---- (install NeXTstep) 1. First, before installing NeXTstep, you need to disconnect your first harddrive (C:). 2. Install NeXTstep. 3. Open the Configure.App go to the System.Config-Section (/usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table) and change: value of KERNEL_FLAGS to "rootdev=sd1" or "rootdev=hd1" value of KERNEL to "sd(1)mach_kernel" or "hd(1)mach_kernel". "sd" means SCSI drive, "hd" means IDE drive ;) 4. Edit your /etc/fstab; change your boot-disk from sd0/hd0 to sd1/hd1. Before changing: /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 After changing: /dev/sd1a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 5. Reconnect the first harddrive (C:). ---- (install NEXTSDWX.BIN) 6. Now you have to install the NEXTSDWX.BIN. Copy it to C:\. 7. Add the following line at the end of your BOOT.INI (should also be located in C:\): C:\NEXTSDWX.BIN="NeXTstep" 8. You are ready to boot NeXTstep with the NT Bootmanager... If the NeXTstep boot program (boot0) keeps on annoying you with this boot-partition-question: "press 'n' or 'd' ..." you may install a diffrent boot program (boot1). boot1 is located in /usr/standalone/i386. To install it you have to manually patch it into your primary boot-sector. I use the Central Point Disk Editor (DOS) to manipulate my drives directly. CAUTION: Do not overwrite your partition-table (physical sector 1, offset 01BEh-01FEh). To prevent a garbled partition-table, get the partition-table from your hdd, patch it into the boot1-file and write this complete boot-sector (including partition-table) back to your hdd. (TOOLS->WRITE OBJECT in DE.EXE) ARE THERE BETTER/CLEANER WAYS TO DO THAT ? -> please email ! or better -> write an App that does the work automatically ;) Contacting The Author: ---------------------- WWW: http://www.rz.uni-hildesheim.de/~ttoe0057 E-Mail: ttoe0057@rz.uni-hildesheim.de (NeXTmail Wellcome!) Fido: 2:2437/301.0 (Till Toenshoff) Snail-Mail: Till Toenshoff Augustastrasse 22 31141 Hildesheim GERMANY
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: How can one tell the diff. if a NeXT 17inch Color Mon. is FIMI orSony? Date: 4 Oct 1996 01:58:51 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <531r0r$nub@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <9610031810.AA05027@huelf.hamburg.com> <32547339.3F54@goldengate.net> Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> wrote: > When I purchased my system, they seller said it was a Fimi. The model > is N4001. Manufacture date is November 1991. It does not have a NeXT > symbol on the front of it, but it does have it screen printed in white > on the back of the monitor. And our Sony is an N4006. They look quite different, too, though it's a bit hard to explain. Basically, the Fimis are tapered and the Sonys are boxy. If you've ever seen any Trinitron, you'll know what I mean. MS-DOS was designed to run |============================================== on a chip that modern kitchen | Joshua Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu appliances would sneer at. |==============================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: Re: Q: How can one tell the diff. if a NeXT 17inch Color Mon. is FIMI orSony? Message-ID: <3254817F.5CD4@goldengate.net> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 22:16:15 -0500 References: <9610031810.AA05027@huelf.hamburg.com> <32547339.3F54@goldengate.net> <531r0r$nub@news.acns.nwu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joshua W. Burton wrote: > > Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> wrote: > > > When I purchased my system, they seller said it was a Fimi. The model > > is N4001. Manufacture date is November 1991. It does not have a NeXT > > symbol on the front of it, but it does have it screen printed in white > > on the back of the monitor. > > And our Sony is an N4006. They look quite different, too, though it's > a bit hard to explain. Basically, the Fimis are tapered and the Sonys > are boxy. If you've ever seen any Trinitron, you'll know what I mean. > > MS-DOS was designed to run |============================================== > on a chip that modern kitchen | Joshua Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu > appliances would sneer at. |============================================== First of all, great sig. Second, does your NeXT Sony monitor have the NeXT logo on the front of it? Are the Fimi's supposed to? I thought it was weird mine didn't. Just wondering. Later. -- matt | ... NeXT ... silicon graphics ... NEC ... jurcich| ... http://www.goldengate.net/~invisix ... -------' SGI Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 32MB, 250MB, 17", NeXTSTEP 3.2
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Telneting into NeXT Slab, emulation problem Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:30:18 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <UmJ_3ee00UhBA33WBG@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <531bu0$fr8@usenet79.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <531bu0$fr8@usenet79.supernews.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 3-Oct-96 Telneting into NeXT Slab, e.. by Peter W. Borders@vbbusnw > I am having a rather strange problem when telneting into my NeXT slab running > 3.2. The vt100 emulation seems to think it has a status line (like a real > vt100) which is fine, but certain programs (less) cause all output to end > up on the status line. All output from less is on one line (scrolls REAL > fast :-( ) and all output until a clear screen is only on one line (makes > it real hard to use). Hmm. Try 'stty -extproc'. Also, make sure that your TERM and TERMCAP are set correctly (via tset or setting the env. variables directly). -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: "George B. Ameer" <gbameer@electriciti.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP!- "pmap_remove_all 3" and no boot Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 07:32:41 -0700 Organization: Software Solutions Message-ID: <32552009.3CF9@electriciti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help! I just changed the memory in my Pentium 133 from 32 MB to 64 and upon re-booting I got pmap_remove_all 3 and that is as far as it goes. If I try boot: config=Default it boots into Workspace Manager, lets me log on as root and WM comes up but sits there with a "spinning disk" forever. I am running 3.3 on Pentium 133 with 64 MB Ram, 2 GB SCSI Hard Drive, Adaptec 2940w & Diamond Stealth Video VRAM No Problems noted BEFORE RAM upgrade Any Ideas? Thanks In Advance George B. Ameer Software Solutions gbameer@electriciti.com
From: c671143@showme.missouri.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: can't get floppy to work in OS Date: 3 Oct 1996 15:14:12 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Message-ID: <530l84$13l2@news.missouri.edu> I installed OS for mach with no problems. Now, (about three weeks later) I get my floppy drive to work correctly. When I try to intialize as floppy, OS gives me an error message saying that it can't intialize the disk. When I insert a floppy that has already been formated with the NeXT file system (like the device drivers disk) and mount it, OS says, "It is now safe to remove the disk." Can anyone help me out here? Michael Roberts c671143@showme.missouri.edu NeXTMail preferred.
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does NS support DPMS cards/monitors? Date: 03 Oct 1996 19:30:32 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <vee20ffocbr.fsf@shell.one.net> Do any of the NeXTSTEP video drivers support DPMS? Not that I mind the wasted electrons, but I would like the monitor to last longer than it is likely to running full-time. I'm currently running a VLB ATI Mach32, but my new machine will have a PCI Matrox Millenium, and the monitor is a ViewSonic 17PS. All of these work fine, as tested using the DOS utilities provided. Later, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <address and phone work now, I am already in Cincinnati. No new email, yet.>
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Symbios based Ultra SCSI or Fast/Wide SCSI 2 adaptors. Date: 03 Oct 1996 19:56:35 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <veezq23mwjw.fsf@shell.one.net> I've been looking at purchasing a new system, and am trying to balance the SCSI subsystem. I've been looking at the ASUS PCI-2000 Fast SCSI-2 controller, since it is cheap and works well with the motherboard (ASUS again). Unfortunately, it looks like 7200 RPM SCSI drives are able to press Fast SCSI-2 somewhat, and if you put a 5400 RPM drive on the bus, the SCSI controller may become a bottleneck. For instance, while a Seagate Barracuda at 7200 RPM shouldn't be able to maintain 10Mbytes/sec because its internal transfer rate simply isn't high enough, it _could_ maintain on the order of 5-7Mbytes/sec. The Hawk at 5400 RPM could maintain 4-7Mbytes/sec. So if you put more than one of these drives on a single Fast SCSI 2 chain, and start sucking data from them, it would appear that you could easily be pushing more than 10Mbytes/sec. Not that I'm likely to really need that extra couple Mbytes/sec, of course, but it still rankles. The price difference on the drives is not that much for Wide or Ultra vs narrow, but the difference between the ASUS PCI-2000 card and an Adaptec 2940W is a couple hundred bucks. I'm looking for something more along the lines of $125 (the ASUS card with NCR810 is $75). I can handle the motherboard BIOS support. For instance, the Tyan card with an NCR825 and UltraWide is $125. Will the Tyan card work on an Asus motherboard? And will NeXTSTEP support it? Thanks, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <address and phone work now, I am already in Cincinnati. No new email, yet.>
From: ronp@sol5.cs.wisc.edu (Ronp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Optical disc drive -- 3.5 640MB MO Date: 4 Oct 1996 14:48:47 GMT Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Message-ID: <53384f$7n0@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Has anybody tried to use the new 3.5 inch MO optical drives with 640 MB of capacity? The sector size is at 2KB for the 640 MB capacity and 512 bytes for the 512 MB capacity. Ron
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: How can one tell the diff. if a NeXT 17inch Color Mon. is FIMI orSony? Date: 4 Oct 1996 15:47:22 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <533bia$4dm@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <9610031810.AA05027@huelf.hamburg.com> <32547339.3F54@goldengate.net> <531r0r$nub@news.acns.nwu.edu> <3254817F.5CD4@goldengate.net> Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> wrote: > First of all, great sig. Second, does your NeXT Sony monitor have > the NeXT logo on the front of it? Are the Fimi's supposed to? I > thought it was weird mine didn't. Just wondering. Later. No logo on the front, just a white picture of the logo on the back plate. I think this is consistent with the NeXT way: the logo only goes on stuff they made themselves, like the mono monitors. The Fimi and Sony also lack the accordion fluting on the sides; I think they are mainstream monitors that they got the manufacturers to make with black cases for them. Just for the record, from where I'm sitting at the moment, and going around the room counterclockwise, I can count NeXT logos on: Cube, laser printer, mousepad, mouse, megapixel, keyboard, mouse, colorstation, keyboard, sound box. My ZyXEL modem, the second mousepad, the headphones, the mike, and the color monitor are black, but lack that all-important slanted cube, so I guess we're doomed to remain a mere ten-logo household. Wait, wait, WAIT---yes! I forgot the spare keyboard in the closet. Eleven. And of course we're using a total of...um...17 cords, ALL of them black. We probably need to get out more. ``You'd think it's a conspiracy by the networks +----------------------+ to put bad shows on TV. But the shows are there | Joshua W. Burton | because that's what people want. I think people | (847)677-3902 | are happy using Windows, and that's an extremely | jburton@nwu.edu | depressing thought.'' -- Steve Jobs, 1/96 +----------------------+
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Optical disc drive -- 3.5 640MB MO Date: 4 Oct 1996 16:06:50 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <533cmq$fn1@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <53384f$7n0@spool.cs.wisc.edu> In article <53384f$7n0@spool.cs.wisc.edu> ronp@sol5.cs.wisc.edu (Ronp) writes: >Has anybody tried to use the new 3.5 inch MO optical drives >with 640 MB of capacity? The sector size is at 2KB for the >640 MB capacity and 512 bytes for the 512 MB capacity. > >Ron I'm running one. Sweet piece of hardware (no, I mean really cool :-) There are a few problems with NeXTStep which I've resolved satifactorily (see my rather long post in comp.sys.next.bugs) of a week or so ago. -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: bdm@xp.psych.nyu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ECC vs EDO? Date: 4 Oct 1996 15:34:34 GMT Organization: New York University Message-ID: <533aqa$gn8@news.nyu.edu> I'm thinking about upgrading to a Pentium Pro. Does anyone know if there are any significant advantages to using ECC as opposed to EDO RAM under NextStep 3.3? -- Brian McElree Experimental Psychology New York University 6 Washington Place, 8th Floor NY, NY, 10003 <bdm@xp.psych.nyu.edu> NeXT Mail <bdm@vayu.psych.nyu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Black mouse repair questions Message-ID: <Dyr1oD.2Fy@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <lohgodmim5.fsf@sheldon> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:38:37 GMT In article <lohgodmim5.fsf@sheldon> gfoster@gfoster.com (Glen Foster) writes: > I have a couple of black mice that have failed identically. The > signal wires have parted in the cable in or near the strain relief on > the mouse itself. I was able to fix one of them by soldering and > shrink-tubing the signal wires but would rather perform a more elegant > repair on the other. Does anybody have specs/sources for the crimp > connectors for the internal mouse tail connector? I am not real > familiar with these sub-sub-micro connectors (or whatever they are > called). > > Any "tips and tricks" for repairing these critters would be > appreciated as well. Mail is probably better for an arcane subject > like this, I will summarize if interest is exhibited. > A trained technician (i.e. apt in handling a soldering iron) with a temperature controlled iron and a pen sharp tip can solder the shortened wires to the old pins instead of crimping new ones. In general, this works well and lasts (almost) as long as crimping, just that it takes much more time and dexterity. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does NS support DPMS cards/monitors? Date: 4 Oct 1996 11:17:45 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <sams.844451844@shellx> References: <vee20ffocbr.fsf@shell.one.net> shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) writes: >Do any of the NeXTSTEP video drivers support DPMS? Not that I mind >the wasted electrons, but I would like the monitor to last longer than >it is likely to running full-time. Yes, it works fine on my home box, which has an old Asus motherboard, Millenium video card, and is running NS 3.3. (I don't know how important these hardware details are.) You must enable various parameters of the DPMS feature in the bios and then under NS enable the feature in Preferences on a user by user basis. I only use the monitor shutdown feature; I also tested the CPU slowdown feature which works fine under NS and DOS but is not useful for me. I didn't test the hard-drive-spindown feature. cheers, -sam
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: How can one tell the diff. if a NeXT 17inch Color Mon. is FIMI orSony? Date: 04 Oct 1996 14:49:32 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <veek9t6k1j7.fsf@shell.one.net> References: <9610031810.AA05027@huelf.hamburg.com> <32547339.3F54@goldengate.net> <531r0r$nub@news.acns.nwu.edu> <3254817F.5CD4@goldengate.net> <533bia$4dm@news.acns.nwu.edu> In-reply-to: jburton@nwu.edu's message of 4 Oct 1996 15:47:22 GMT In article <533bia$4dm@news.acns.nwu.edu>, jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: And of course we're using a total of...um...17 cords, ALL of them black. We probably need to get out more. And if you have the right cords, even they have little NeXT logos on them. The mouse, of course, and the monitor, and perhaps the keyboard (I'm _not_ climbing over my desk to find out). Better yet, the power cords and if you're lucky, certain SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 cables. I suppose you can't really count the Sony CD-ROM, because it's only got a white screened NeXT logo on the front. Hmm, I wonder if I should dig out my sheet of NeXT stickers and whack them onto my PC's case ... Later, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <address and phone work now, I am already in Cincinnati. No new email, yet.>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars A. Stole) Subject: I/O error while formatting JAZ cartridges Message-ID: <Dyrx1u.Aqz@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 22:56:18 GMT I recently purchased a 5-pack of DOS-formatted JAZ cartridges. I employed the standard procedure of first running "sdform /dev/rsd2a" and then initializing the disk with "disk -i -t IOMEGAJAZ-1G /dev/rsd2a". For 3 of the 5 cartridges, this went fine. For 2, however, the sdform proceeds for about 40 minutes before halting with an I/O error. Specifically, /#sdform /dev/rsd2a device = /dev/rsd2a block size = 512 capacity = 1021 MBytes ***FORMATTING THIS DISK CAUSES ALL DISK DATA TO BE LOST*** This will take approximately 34 minutes. Do you wish to proceed? (Y/anything) Y Disk Format in progress... ...Retrying with cdb->fc_dlf = FMTD_INDEX ...rtn = 0(d) sr_io_status = 0H Format command failed ioctl(SDIOCSRQ): I/O error ***FORMAT UNIT COMMAND FAILED*** ioctl(SDIOCSRQ): I/O error Any ideas about how to get around this problem, or are these just faulty disks? Thanks in advance for any help.
From: jgallag581@aol.com (JGallag581) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can I connect my NeXT laser to an Intel box? Date: 4 Oct 1996 19:16:57 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <5345t9$h4j@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Need advice on how to use my Next laser with a PC - drivers, cables, etc. Thanks. Justin Gallagher JGallag581@aol.com
From: kafkouli@fiu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wacom Tablets for Intel? Date: 4 Oct 1996 22:58:58 GMT Organization: Florida International University Message-ID: <5344ri$2hh@isis.fiu.edu> Hello All I need information about Wacom tablets and NEXTSTEP 3.2 or 3.3 or Openstep 4.0 on Intel. Which model would you recommend? Which is the best? Are there any drivers. Which programs do they support them. Is Diagram one of them that supports it? If not are they any public domain programs? Is Wacom the only brand of tablets compatible with NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. Any info is welcome. Bests Regards George Kafkoulis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: Re: Q: How can one tell the diff. if a NeXT 17inch Color Mon. is FIMI orSony? Message-ID: <3255D384.4487@goldengate.net> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 20:18:28 -0700 References: <9610031810.AA05027@huelf.hamburg.com> <32547339.3F54@goldengate.net> <531r0r$nub@news.acns.nwu.edu> <3254817F.5CD4@goldengate.net> <533bia$4dm@news.acns.nwu.edu> <veek9t6k1j7.fsf@shell.one.net> Organization: transwarp MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Hess <shess@shell.one.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You have NeXT stickers?! Whoa, too bad you're not still in Burnsville! Scott Hess wrote: > > In article <533bia$4dm@news.acns.nwu.edu>, > jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: > And of course we're using a total of...um...17 cords, ALL of them > black. We probably need to get out more. > > And if you have the right cords, even they have little NeXT logos on > them. The mouse, of course, and the monitor, and perhaps the keyboard > (I'm _not_ climbing over my desk to find out). Better yet, the power > cords and if you're lucky, certain SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 cables. > > I suppose you can't really count the Sony CD-ROM, because it's only > got a white screened NeXT logo on the front. Hmm, I wonder if I > should dig out my sheet of NeXT stickers and whack them onto my PC's > case ... > > Later, > -- > scott hess <shess@winternet.com> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ > Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 > (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 > <address and phone work now, I am already in Cincinnati. No new email, yet.> -- MATT | mailto:invisix@goldengate.net ** living a microsoft ** jurcich | http://www.goldengate.net/~invisix ** free lifestyle ** Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 32MB, 1.5GB, 17" Fimi, NEXTSTEP 3.2
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ECC vs EDO? Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:11:37 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <omJPL9W00Uh742qapB@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <533aqa$gn8@news.nyu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 4-Oct-96 ECC vs EDO? by bdm@xp.psych.nyu.edu > I'm thinking about upgrading to a Pentium Pro. > Does anyone know if there are any significant advantages to > using ECC as opposed to EDO RAM under NextStep 3.3? They are othogonal ideas. ECC means that your machine can correct any single bit errors and is an extension to parity memory-- and extension that does something fairly useful. EDO means "extended data out" and refers to something similar to fast-page mode SIMMs that offers a little more performance (perhaps 2-3%). -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory Guide (Re: ECC vs EDO?) Date: 5 Oct 1996 02:45:04 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet <info@cais.com> Message-ID: <534i3g$36r@news.cais.com> References: <533aqa$gn8@news.nyu.edu> In-Reply-To: <533aqa$gn8@news.nyu.edu> Here's a brief guide to memory that I put together: Basic Memory Types ================== FPM = Fast Page Mode, your standard dynamic memory. EDO = Extended Data Out, a slightly faster dynamic memory BEDO = Burst Extended Data Out, an even more faster dynamic memory SDRAM = Synchronous Dynamic Random Access Memory, a VERY fast dynamic memory Options ======= Parity - This will detect memory errors. Your system may alert you about them. ECC = This will detect and when possible correct memory errors. Notes/Tips ========== - EDO is the memory of choice for new Pentium/Pentium Pro systems. - BEDO hasn't appeared in mass quantities yet. - If you are running mission critical applications around-the-clock that require fault tolerance (like a server), you should get ECC - If you are running mission critical applications on a part-time basis and/or have a lot of memory (> 64MB), you should get Parity. Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP Consultant + 1 (617) 252-0088 On 10/04/96, bdm@xp.psych.nyu.edu wrote: >I'm thinking about upgrading to a Pentium Pro. >Does anyone know if there are any significant advantages to >using ECC as opposed to EDO RAM under NextStep 3.3? >-- > >Brian McElree >Experimental Psychology >New York University >6 Washington Place, 8th Floor >NY, NY, 10003 ><bdm@xp.psych.nyu.edu> >NeXT Mail <bdm@vayu.psych.nyu.edu> > > -- Robert La Ferla Registered NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant HTI Boston, MA + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wacom Tablets for Intel? Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 14:30:01 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <3255F254.5ED5@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5344ri$2hh@isis.fiu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I need information about Wacom tablets and NEXTSTEP 3.2 or 3.3 or >Openstep 4.0 on Intel. >Which model would you recommend? I tested Wacom ArtZ II series and worked fine. >Are there any drivers. Yes, ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/i486/tablet/WacomTablet.I.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/i486/tablet/WacomTablet.README >Which programs do they support them. >Is Diagram one of them that supports it? Yes, Wacom tablet works instead mouse. But Diagram did not support pressure-sensitive featuer. YoungHoon Kil From South Korea ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog OK) (NEXTSTEP & BeBox World) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai
From: kinau@lennon.csufresno.edu (Kin Hung Au) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: TrackBall for NeXTStation Date: 3 Oct 1996 20:29:44 GMT Organization: Californi State University, Fresno Message-ID: <5317no$mct@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> Hi Folks, Is it possible to use TrackBall on NeXTStation black hardware? The mice keeps dying in our NeXT lab. I am thinking to use TrackBall to replace mice. Do anyone know any vendor selling TrackBall for NeXT? BTW, can we use Mac mouse on NeXT black hardware? I know Mac mouse plug is different from NeXT mouse. Is there a adapter I can buy? T Thanks. --Kin ****************************************************************************** Kin Hung Au Internet Address: kinau@csufresno.edu Instructional Computing Consultant California State University, Fresno Tel# 209-278-3915 School of Natural Science FAX# 209-278-7139 Office of Dean, MS #90 Fresno CA 93740 http://maxwell.phys.csufresno.edu:8001/~kinau/ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQBtAzJJkwEAAAEDAMHh5WMewwIXy3D7K46JeFkiFARiSpYu0osPy0gM7dkQqW28 ym7gMft0gAHC9fpvIQQ93BESamn6MuNt+f9yxhMSZX/UGX6LqG7jyEmTgWzyDLkw VxNkugSY/uDi7ZasOQAFEbQfS2luIEguIEF1IDxraW5hdUBjc3VmcmVzbm8uZWR1 Pg== =2ks8 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- ******************************************************************************
From: "David N. Richards" <odyseus@aaron.music.qc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Hardware repair Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:45:08 -0400 Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961005144346.1348B-100000@igor> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Any one know of any places in the New York City area that can handle NeXT hardware repairs?? Any info much appreciated!! Dave *********************************** David Richards The Aaron Copland School of Music at Queens College Voice: (718) 997-3874 ***********************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: 030 and NS 3.3??? Message-ID: <Dyst7C.2r4@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <52sgd7$dtg@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 10:30:47 GMT In article <52sgd7$dtg@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Treasure) writes: > > I am sure you can do it, and it'll run dog slow, but any ideas on > how much memory you need to get it to work? > > I am trying to troubleshoot performance issues with my 030 and NS 3.3... > > I think it is a memory problem, but am not certain. > Unfortunately, you forget to tell what kind of 030 system you have (cube, slab; mono, color, ND?) But today memory is so cheap, anyway, that I readily propose to upgrade all 030 systems to their max capacity. It certaily won't cost more than a few hundret bucks (ok, provided you love your black machine that's cheap, but I take that for granted ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Hook up a BJ printer on black NeXT machine Message-ID: <DystGn.2rs@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <52srm0$c3a@netnews.hinet.net> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 10:36:23 GMT In article <52srm0$c3a@netnews.hinet.net> batmon@abico.com.tw (Mon-Sen Yang) writes: > Hi, > > Is it possible to hook up a bubble jet printer to NeXT mach machine? > If so, what software should I use and where can I get the printer > cable to connect? > There are several driver packages for non-PostScript printers like, for instance, Dots. There should be demos on Peak and Peanuts. Cables, just in case you don't want to make your own, are to be ordered from Dancing Bear. > P.S. it would be even better if there is a pin-layout graph for the > printer cable. > Should be on the FAQ (www.peanuts.leo.org). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: template@utkvx.utk.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jaz for '030 cube Date: 5 Oct 1996 22:18:28 GMT Organization: University of Tennessee Message-ID: <template-0510961737190001@tchm06a11.rmt.utk.edu> Is it possible to hook up a Jaz drive to an old '030 cube with SCSI - 1 only ? Thanks !
From: template@utkvx.utk.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cyrix/Intel compatibility Date: 5 Oct 1996 22:41:42 GMT Organization: University of Tennessee Message-ID: <template-0510961800320001@tchm06a11.rmt.utk.edu> Would there be problems getting cyrix-based systems (P166+) to run NeXTSTEP ? Is there any reason why such a system would be incompatible because of its non-intel cpu ? Any comments would be much appreciated -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: 2 memory questions for black hardware Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DytHxy.2qo@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 19:25:10 GMT References: <52c14n$bhq@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> <531h0u$100c@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <531h0u$100c@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Sherwood Botsford <sherwood@arafel.space.ualberta.ca> wrote: >Treasure (kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu) wrote: > >: I have a 040 and an 030 board for my cube. > >: Both take 30 pinn SIMMs > >: 1) What is the largest size SIMM the machine can use? I was told 32MB but >: I am not sure. > >The largest size I've seen mentioned in anything from Next is 4 MB, >BUT the FAQ for NextDimension boards says that the ND board would >run with 8M SIMMS, although this was never blessed by Next. > That's correct. I have some 1 MB and some 8 MB SIMMs in my Dimension board. Works fine. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Andreas.Leidig@inka.de (Andreas Leidig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTdimension error Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 11:47:30 +0200 Organization: Organisation fuer inhumane Elektronenrechner Message-ID: <Andreas.Leidig-0610961147300001@blackbush.xlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! I recently bought a NeXTcube with dimension board without any manuals or contact to the previous user. The cube mainboard works fine, but every time I want to use the color monitor (which shows the ROM monitor after Reboot complete I get an error message) It says: callout_dispatch(290768256, 0x4067e7c, 290824192) *see footnote panic(CPU 0) callout_dispatch After that it wants to boot sd(0,0,0)diagnostics, which also fails. What could be broken? What can I do? Regards, Andreas --- * the first and third number varies a little bit from bootup to bootup -- -- Voraussagen sind schwierig, ...besonders fuer die Zukunft (Niels Bohr) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Leidig (Andreas.Leidig@inka.de) IRC: leider Morgenstr. 41 76137 Karlsruhe (Germany) Real-Time-Voice-Connect: (49)-721-37 36 29 WWW: http://www.inka.de/sites/trauerkloss/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: markdavis@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Mark Davis") Subject: Re: Black mouse repair questions Message-ID: <DyuuBJ.IGH@cix.compulink.co.uk> Organization: Compulink Information eXchange Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 12:50:07 GMT I have a black box and no mouse, is it possible to attach PS/2 or serial mouse to this port ?, or must I locate the genuine item ? /\/\ark Davis Using Virtual Access http://www.ashmount.com/va .
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: markdavis@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Mark Davis") Subject: Re: Ailing Intel GX/Pro Message-ID: <DyuuBB.IFB@cix.compulink.co.uk> Organization: Compulink Information eXchange Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 12:49:59 GMT John, Which IDE driver are you using ? - you could try GX/Pro or the EIDE 3.34 driver it might be more tolerant. Alternatively if it's really the controller then get hold of the Adaptec/Future Domain EIDE card (ISA) ~$40, I've tried this in a GX out of curiosity (!) and it works fine, performance is on par. However, if you use the GX/pro driver and appreciate the benefits of DMA, then SCSI is your only recourse (or motherboard repair $$$$'s) Other options ??, External SCSI on the onboard controller (PIO) (you probably have a CD-ROM there anyway), ISA/EISA SCSI (DMA) cabled to a SCSI disk in the internal caddy. Let me know how you get on ... /\/\ark Davis ps have you overcome the BIOS limitation or do you use 504MB ? (the replacement IDE card comes with its own BIOS to circumvent the limit) Using Virtual Access http://www.ashmount.com/va .
From: Ariga <Askevar@mesandor.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.psion,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.python Subject: Check this out...WOW!!!! Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 11:11:51 -0700 Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Message-ID: <3257F667.D04@mesandor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This DOES work if people participate. Give it a try. The logic of it is sound and the more people who do this, the more it'll work. NOT ILLEGAL - NOT A CHAIN LETTER - PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE. This is a chance for people who have never had a decent break to help one another. If you are not interested, then don't participate, but please print this article and pass it on to someone who may be interested, so they can take advantage of this opportunity. The procedure is simple: 1) Write your name and address on 5 sheets of paper. Below that, write the words, "Please add me to your mailing list." Fold a $1 bill in each piece of paper and mail them to the following 5 addresses: 1. Daniel Grib 44 Queen Ave. Enola, PA 17025 2. Daniel Sutherland 20 Greenville Drv, Grovedale, Geelong, VIC 3216 3. Thomas Andersson Ringvagen 43 Stockholm SWEDEN 4. Per Hellberg Poste Restante 34220 Alvesta SWEDEN 5. Nathael Andrews 2111 Foley Rd. Havre de Grace MD, 21078 2) Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other four names up. In other words, #5 becomes #4 and so on. Put your name as the fifth one on the list. Use a simple text editor such as Notepad, in your "accessories" window (If you have MS-Windows), or DOS editor. In fact, any editor will do. 3) Post the article to at least 200 newsgroups. There are 17,000, so it shouldn't be hard to find 200. Try posting to as many newsgroups as you can, and the bigger the newsgroup is, the more people are to see your message! You are now in the mail order investment business, and should start seeing returns within a week or two. Of course, the more newsgroups you post to, the greater your return is. If you wish to remain anonymous, you may use a psuedonym, call yourself "The Manager","The Boss", whatever, but make sure your address is correct. Now, here is why the system works: - Of every 200 posts I made, I received 5 responses. Yes, only 5. You make $5 for every 200 posts with your name at #5. - Each person who sent you $1 now also makes 200 additional postings with your name at #4, i.e. 1,000 postings. On average, therefore, 50 people will send you $1 with your name at #4. Average return with 50 people = $50. - Your 50 new agents make 200 postings each with your name at #3 or 10,000 postings. Average return 500 people = $500. - They make 200 postings each with your name at #2, which is 100,000 postings. Average return is 5,000 at $1 each = $5,000. - Finally, 5,000 people make 200 postings with your name at #1 and you get a return of $50,000 before your name drops off the list, AND THAT IS IF EVERYONE DOWN THE LINE MAKES 200 POSTINGS! Total avg. income in one cycle = $55,555. From time to time, when you see your name no longer on the list, you take the latest posting that appears in the newsgroups, and send out another $5, and put your name at #5, and start posting again. Remember, 200 postings is only a guideline. The more you post, the greater the return. THE ONLY COST IS $5, AND 5 STAMPS, 5 ENVELOPES and 5 PIECES OF PAPER. Anyone can afford $5 for such an effortless investment which produces such SPECTACULAR RETURNS. There are millions of internet users, and millions of new net surfers every month! This is the great advantage of the Internet. People all over the world can hear you and listen carefully if you talk reasonably. Many will take that chance! I agree. If it wasn't the Internet, and it was a small circle of people, the return would be rather small. It would not succeed. But here on the Internet, it is a giant village, where thousands of new members join in every day! The amount of money returned to you is 200 times larger because the group is 200 time larger, i.e 200 postings, and the risk is zero. You CAN'T lose! Remember, read the instructions carefully, and play fairly. That's the only way this will work. Get a printout so you can refer back to this article easily. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the postings to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name should be. REMEMBER - HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHEAT WITH THIS IDEA TO MAKE MONEY! BESIDES, NOT PLAYING THE GAME FAIRLY IS ILLEGAL. SO LET'S BE REASONABLE AND PLAY FAIRLY, SO WE CAN ALL ENJOY THE INTERNET GOLD MINE. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU, and remember, play fair and you'll be a winner. Come on and finally get those things you've wanted for a long time!!!
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 030 and NS 3.3??? Date: 6 Oct 1996 16:23:21 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <538mdp$6nk@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <52sgd7$dtg@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> <Dyst7C.2r4@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote: > In article <52sgd7$dtg@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> > kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Treasure) writes: > > > > I am sure you can do it, and it'll run dog slow, but any ideas on > > how much memory you need to get it to work? > > > > I am trying to troubleshoot performance issues with my 030 and NS 3.3... > > > > I think it is a memory problem, but am not certain. > > > Unfortunately, you forget to tell what kind of 030 system you have (cube, > slab; mono, color, ND?) There were no 030 Slabs, only Cubes. All 030 Cubes were mono. I don't believe 030 NDs were ever made. No NeXTbus Interface Chip was included with my 030, but the empty socket was on the CPU board, so I guess one could have been added so that an ND board might work. So I believe reporting a system to be an 030 defines it pretty completely. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: Richard Clarke <Richard@richardc.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.psion,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Check this out...WOW!!!! Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:35:14 +0100 Organization: None Distribution: world Message-ID: <Nwbc1CAS3+VyEwaH@richardc.demon.co.uk> References: <3257F667.D04@mesandor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <3257F667.D04@mesandor.net>, Ariga <Askevar@mesandor.net> writes >This DOES work if people participate. Give it a try. >The logic of it is sound and the more people who do this, the more it'll >work. > >NOT ILLEGAL - NOT A CHAIN LETTER - PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE. > Illegal. A chain letter. As legitimate as Dr. Crippen. Am I the only one who's sad that the newsgroup of a former billion $ company is now merely home to the posts of spammers and scam-artists? -- Richard Clarke http://www.richardc.demon.co.uk Programmers' Archives (Including a compilation of Windows programming USENET posts)
From: kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Treasure) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 030 and NS 3.3??? Date: 6 Oct 1996 12:36:48 -0700 Organization: California Polytechnic State University at San Luis Obispo Message-ID: <5391og$bb3@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> References: <52sgd7$dtg@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> <Dyst7C.2r4@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki <Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de> wrote: >> I think it is a memory problem, but am not certain. >> >Unfortunately, you forget to tell what kind of 030 system you have (cube, >slab; mono, color, ND?) But today memory is so cheap, anyway, that I >readily propose to upgrade all 030 systems to their max capacity. It >certaily won't cost more than a few hundret bucks (ok, provided you love >your black machine that's cheap, but I take that for granted ;-) It is a cube. I would run a lower version of NS, but it is the 2nd board in the cube, and is running as a diskless client... so it runs 3.3 like my 040 board does. Memory I can get easily enough... it only has 8MB right now because we just wanted to test the board to make sure it worked... and it does boot up completely, it just crashes after it finishes all the rc scripts... I think it wants more memory... because it keeps *trying* to get the login screen up, but never makes it. -Kristin -- THIS IS A 100% MATTER PRODUCT: In the Unlikely Event That This Merchandise Should Contact Antimatter in Any Form, a Catastrophic Explosion Will Result. http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~kamundse/ T: In the Unlikely Event That This Merchandise Should Contact Antimatter in Any Form, a Catastrophic Explosion Will Result. http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~kamundse/
From: jdevlin@umich.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Comparison wanted: Black 17" and 21" color monitors Date: 6 Oct 1996 22:01:06 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Message-ID: <539a72$ksj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Hello, I might be buying a turbo color and I was wondering if someone who had worked with both could offer a comparison of the upgraded Sony 17" color monitor that NEXT was last shipping and the 21" color monitor that was an option (was the 21" monitor ever upgraded?) Many thanks. -- John Devlin Department of Philosophy The University of Michigan Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Keyboard Problem. Message-ID: <DyuvEB.3AF@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <530tal$iip@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:13:23 GMT In article <530tal$iip@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> sfoy@zoology.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) writes: > Hi, > > I have a NextStation TurboColour. The keyboard is very slow > to respond - I have to hold each key down for at least 1/2 sec. > I have tried another keyboard but without success. Anyone have > any ideas as to what the source of this problem may be?? > Have you checked the Keyboard Preferences? -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Can I connect my NeXT laser to an Intel box? Message-ID: <Dyuv9q.39r@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5345t9$h4j@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:10:38 GMT In article <5345t9$h4j@newsbf02.news.aol.com> jgallag581@aol.com (JGallag581) writes: > Need advice on how to use my Next laser with a PC - drivers, > cables, etc. > No way! BTW an FAQ, of course! -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.psion,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.python From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Check this out...WOW!!!! Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961006223227.6402A-100000@charisma> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 22:36:41 -0400 References: <3257F667.D04@mesandor.net> <Nwbc1CAS3+VyEwaH@richardc.demon.co.uk> To: Richard Clarke <Richard@richardc.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <Nwbc1CAS3+VyEwaH@richardc.demon.co.uk> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Richard Clarke wrote: > In article <3257F667.D04@mesandor.net>, Ariga <Askevar@mesandor.net> > writes > >This DOES work if people participate. Give it a try. > >The logic of it is sound and the more people who do this, the more it'll > >work. > > > >NOT ILLEGAL - NOT A CHAIN LETTER - PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE. > > > > Illegal. A chain letter. As legitimate as Dr. Crippen. > > Am I the only one who's sad that the newsgroup of a former billion $ > company is now merely home to the posts of spammers and scam-artists? Yes, I am also sad. However, talking with the sysadmin from the posting site (epechan@crosslink.net) he assures me that the person will be dealt with. You might also note the two US addresses and drop a postcard to the US postmaster with their addresses. You don't even have to put a stamp on it! This is considered fraud by the US Postal Service. TjL
From: finton@cs.wisc.edu (David J. Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Experience with Olympus SYS.230 m.o. drive on black hardware! Date: 7 Oct 1996 03:00:44 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <539ros$dsi@news.doit.wisc.edu> I just got my Olympus SYS.230 magneto-optical drive, and connected it to the external SCSI chain on my TurboColor NeXT. Surprise! It just works! The disks are 230 MB, but the private/adm/messages said something about 217 MB capacity, I think. Yet, when I copied my 75 MB home directory to the m.o., I was left with only 117 MB free on the disk, as reported by Workspace. The other odd thing is that when I load a disk, the console panel gets about 27 "busy" messages from the m.o. until the drive is recognized. Otherwise, it seems to behave just like a floppy, except that the icon seen in WorkSpace is the generic SCSI icon. Cmd-e works to eject the disk. Copying the 75 MB directory took 21.5 minutes. Other specifics: the price was $358, from CDW, which included four extra disks (deal expired 10/1/96, the day my unit was shipped). The drive comes with a stand to hold it sideways, like the Fujitsu. It also comes with a DB25 to DB25 SCSI cable (unused). You can also get the non-SCSI version. Support appears to be limited to DOS/Windoze/Mac (big surprise). The disk requires a firm push into the drive, and when "ejected," it's just a little hard to grab hold of to pull it out. Of course, if you're used to a drive which spits your disk across the room, this is a plus! Anyway, I'm wondering if I could get either more capacity or greater speed by using the proper disktab file. Can anyone advise me? I'm wondering if I should try using the disktab that people use for the Fujitsu DynaMO. Thanks, David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Pentium Pro / OpenStep panics (perhaps PPP related) Date: 7 Oct 1996 09:33:25 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <53aip5$nnl@nntp1.best.com> Does this problem sound familiar to anyone? I just upgraded my system to a Tyan S1668 Dual Pentium Pro ATX motherboard with a single Pentium Pro 200 MHZ Processor. I am running OpenStep 4.x for Mach. I am experiencing frequent kernel panics (Illegal instruction exception I believe is the exact message). I suspect the problem is related to the PPP 2.2 package because the panics only happen while PPP is running and seem to be triggered by moderate to heavy PPP traffic (for instance bringing up any graphics intensive page via OmniWeb is almost guaranteed to panic the system.) The exact same PPP configuration was working fine while I was running on a P100. I have tried upgrading from the version of PPP that NeXT ships with 4.x to the latest available from the thoughtport ftp site and it does not seem to make any difference. The other hardware on my system includes #9 GXE 64 4MB PCI video card, NCR (Symbios) 825 wide SCSI card, 64 MB RAM, PS/2 mouse. If anyone has any suggestions as to what else might be causing this problem or can confirm that this is indeed a problem with PPP (or even better yet has a SOLUTION) please mail me and I will be eternally grateful. Thanks, Chris --
From: Stefan Gallas <stefan.gallas@physik.uni-ulm.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem with installing Openstep... Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 10:16:42 -0700 Organization: Institute for Dynamic Material Testing (IDM) Message-ID: <32593AFA.49E1@physik.uni-ulm.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I have a strange problem while installing Openstep on following configuration: Adaptec 2940 UW Scsi-Adapter with 2GB HD on ID 1 JAZ-Drive on ID 2 Nec 3xi CD-Rom on ID 3 Booting from the installation disk the computer stops with a system panic: can't find CD-ROM-Drive... The harddisk and the JAZ-drive are recognized correctly. Does anybody know this problem and is there any solution for it??? Thanks Stefan -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Gallas Institute for Dynamic Robert-Koch-Str. 16 Material Testing (IDM) 89129 Langenau University of Ulm 07345/22331 *** stefan.gallas@physik.uni-ulm.de *** 0731/502-3996 ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jnd@tomkinsons.co.uk (J. Dragosz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.psion,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Check this out...WOW!!!! Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 09:56:14 GMT Message-ID: <3258d2dc.12367242@news.demon.co.uk> References: <3257F667.D04@mesandor.net> <Nwbc1CAS3+VyEwaH@richardc.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:35:14 +0100, Richard Clarke <Richard@richardc.demon.co.uk> wrote: [Snip] >Illegal. A chain letter. As legitimate as Dr. Crippen. [...] What's wrong with Dr. Crippen? He killed his wife for nagging him! He made history because he was the first person to be caught with the use of wireless - he was not your average Jack The Ripper! So I think it's unfair to class Crippen with this geek ;-) -- J.Dragosz Kidderminster, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: TrackBall for NeXTStation Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dyv6BE.897@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 17:09:14 GMT References: <5317no$mct@zimmer.csufresno.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5317no$mct@zimmer.csufresno.edu>, Kin Hung Au <kinau@lennon.csufresno.edu> wrote: >Hi Folks, > >Is it possible to use TrackBall on NeXTStation black hardware? The mice >keeps dying in our NeXT lab. I am thinking to use TrackBall to replace >mice. > >Do anyone know any vendor selling TrackBall for NeXT? > If you get a PC *BUS* mouse (not PS/2, not serial) you can buy an adapter from computerActive (URL available on Stepwise) for about $8 that will let you plug it in. Works well. >BTW, can we use Mac mouse on NeXT black hardware? I know Mac mouse plug >is different from NeXT mouse. Is there a adapter I can buy? Mac ADB mice can be used on NeXT ADB systems, but otherwise, no. You might be able to use pre-ADB mice on non-ADB NeXTs but it would take cable hacking. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Can I connect my NeXT laser to an Intel box? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dyv6Ct.BuH@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 17:10:05 GMT References: <5345t9$h4j@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5345t9$h4j@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, JGallag581 <jgallag581@aol.com> wrote: >Need advice on how to use my Next laser with a PC - drivers, cables, etc. > Can't be done, unless you have some black NeXT hardware to hook it up to. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Ludger Solbach <solbach@tu-harburg.d400.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: disk problem Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 12:49:31 +0100 Organization: TU Hamburg-Harburg Message-ID: <3258EE4B.6366D2A4@tu-harburg.d400.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: ti6ls symptom: ------- For the system and "df" the harddisk looks like providing only 1020 M of disk- space, while fdisk recognizes that the disk actuall got 2064 M. The partition table displayed by fdisk contains zeros only. configuration: ------------- system: NeXT Step 3.3 adaptor and driver: Adaptec 2940 with driver version 3.7 disk: IBM DORS 32160 WA0A5U2F Any help is appreciated. Best wishes, Ludger. -- ------------ Ludger Solbach, AB Technische Informatik VI ------------- | Technical University of Hamburg-Harburg, Germany | | e-mail: Solbach@TU-Harburg.d400.De, Tel.: +49-40-7718-3357 | ---------------- http://www.ti6.tu-harburg.de/~ti6ls -----------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Experience with Olympus SYS.230 m.o. drive on black hardware! Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961007102036.939A-100000@charisma> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:24:22 -0400 References: <539ros$dsi@news.doit.wisc.edu> To: "David J. Finton" <finton@cs.wisc.edu> In-Reply-To: <539ros$dsi@news.doit.wisc.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Oct 1996, David J. Finton wrote: > Date: 7 Oct 1996 03:00:44 GMT > From: "David J. Finton" <finton@cs.wisc.edu> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > Subject: Experience with Olympus SYS.230 m.o. drive on black hardware! > > I just got my Olympus SYS.230 magneto-optical drive, and connected it to the > external SCSI chain on my TurboColor NeXT. Surprise! It just works! I'm not surprised. Gotta love SCSI > The disks are 230 MB, but the private/adm/messages said something about 217 > MB capacity, I think. Sounds about right. My EZ 135MB ends up with about 117 after installing the NeXTStep filesystem and the minfree space/ > Yet, when I copied my 75 MB home directory to the m.o., I was left > with only 117 MB free on the disk, as reported by Workspace. Hmm... Checkout the size as reported by DarkForest ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/disk/DarkForest.N.b.tar.gz TjL
From: Richard Clarke <Richard@richardc.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.psion,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Check this out...WOW!!!! Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 19:49:58 +0100 Organization: None Distribution: world Message-ID: <6bphfOAWDVWyEw3j@richardc.demon.co.uk> References: <3257F667.D04@mesandor.net> <Nwbc1CAS3+VyEwaH@richardc.demon.co.uk> <3258d2dc.12367242@news.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <3258d2dc.12367242@news.demon.co.uk>, "J. Dragosz" <jnd@tomkinsons.co.uk> writes >On Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:35:14 +0100, Richard Clarke ><Richard@richardc.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >[Snip] >>Illegal. A chain letter. As legitimate as Dr. Crippen. >[...] > >What's wrong with Dr. Crippen? He killed his wife for nagging him! He >made history because he was the first person to be caught with the use >of wireless - he was not your average Jack The Ripper! So I think it's >unfair to class Crippen with this geek ;-) I was mixing him up with Christie who was a mass-murderer. As for his justification.... I certainly DON'T want to get into that in this newsgroup! -- Richard Clarke http://www.richardc.demon.co.uk Programmers' Archives (Including a compilation of Windows programming USENET posts)
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Experience with Olympus SYS.230 m.o. drive on black hardware! Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:33:18 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <cmKKYCu00UzxI2FWAh@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <539ros$dsi@news.doit.wisc.edu> In-Reply-To: <539ros$dsi@news.doit.wisc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 7-Oct-96 Experience with Olympus SYS.. by David J. Finton@cs.wisc. > The disks are 230 MB, but the private/adm/messages said something about 217 > MB capacity, I think. Yet, when I copied my 75 MB home directory to the > m.o., I was left with only 117 MB free on the disk, as reported by Workspace. Welcome to hard drive marketing land. :-) Your drive is roughly 230,000,000 bytes, which is (divide by 2**20 bytes per MB, which is 1,048,576) giving 219 real megabytes of room, which is what the boot log says. Then, the filesystem itself takes up some space and reserves 10% additional for use by the superuser to help prevent fragmentation, which reduces the reported "space left" to around 195 MB total. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: 030 and NS 3.3??? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dyws9D.KsK@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:00:49 GMT References: <52sgd7$dtg@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> <Dyst7C.2r4@nidat.sub.org> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <Dyst7C.2r4@nidat.sub.org>, Peter Nitezki <Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de> wrote: >Unfortunately, you forget to tell what kind of 030 system you have (cube, >slab; mono, color, ND?) Just for clarification, there were no '030 slabs--only cubes. They all have 16 SIMM sockets which can take up to 4MB SIMMs each, as I recall. Installing a Dimension board doesn't change this. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.psion,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.python From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Sender: Ariga <Askevar@mesandor.net> Date: 07 Oct 1996 17:39:37 EDT Control: cancel <3257F667.D04@mesandor.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <3257F667.D04@mesandor.net> Message-ID: <cancel.3257F667.D04@mesandor.net> Spam/MMF cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was Check this out...WOW!!!!
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does NS support DPMS cards/monitors? Date: 07 Oct 1996 17:44:34 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <veepw2ubgal.fsf@shell.one.net> References: <vee20ffocbr.fsf@shell.one.net> <sams.844451844@shellx> In-reply-to: sams@best.com's message of 4 Oct 1996 11:17:45 -0700 In article <sams.844451844@shellx> sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) writes: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) writes: >Do any of the NeXTSTEP video drivers support DPMS? Not that I >mind the wasted electrons, but I would like the monitor to last >longer than it is likely to running full-time. Yes, it works fine on my home box, which has an old Asus motherboard, Millenium video card, and is running NS 3.3. (I don't know how important these hardware details are.) You must enable various parameters of the DPMS feature in the bios and then under NS enable the feature in Preferences on a user by user basis. I only use the monitor shutdown feature; I also tested the CPU slowdown feature which works fine under NS and DOS but is not useful for me. I didn't test the hard-drive-spindown feature. Sam, you've lost me. Am I looking in the right Preferences (.app)? I see nothing remotely like monitor shutdown, let alone CPU slowdown or hard drive spindown. I am running NS3.3, though. Perhaps this requires PCI? Hmm, well, further digging turns up something called "Advanced Power Management". Hacking about, I can enable the Preferences item, but this doesn't give me the DPMS option. Is that supposed to be in the BIOS? [Yeah, I'm likely to manage _that_ on a two year old motherboard :-).] Later, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <address and phone work now, I am already in Cincinnati. No new email, yet.>
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Battery For NeXT--Where?? (FAQ has problems) Date: 7 Oct 1996 22:59:22 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <53c20a$l74@uuneo.neosoft.com> I went to the FAQ for NeXT hardware and found the information about where to get a replacement battery for my NeXT. First I called the place to find out the phone number has changed. Calling the new number I find it is the main order number, I need the "small" order number. I then call the small order number only to be told that they have a $25 minimum--for a $10 battery. I then tried Nathan Janette's email to tell him the FAQ needs updating and the e-mail bounced. Who keeps the h/w faq now? Anybody have a source for a single 3V replacement battery for NeXT? Failing that anybody want to do a group order? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love, rlove@neosoft.com (local) MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (permanent) PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Joshua Kerr" <joshkerr@mail.utexas.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: Zyxel modem (Black) Date: 8 Oct 1996 00:07:47 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <01bb9d19$91d7e8d0$08715380@ginger> I am looking to buy your black zyxel modem and cable for my nextstation color turbo. I also want NXFax if you have it. Josh -- ___________________________________________ Joshua Kerr joshkerr@mail.utexas.edu http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/joshkerr "Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while, I was the suspect." -Steven Wright
From: jnaukkar@orion.pspt.fi (Janne Naukkarinen tm223) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: test only Date: 8 Oct 1996 09:24:01 GMT Organization: pspt.fi Message-ID: <53d6jh$err@Camel.pspt.fi> This is a test.
From: hubertus@first.gmd.de (Hubertus Tummescheit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ASUS Media Slot Card with Adaptec 2940UW Driver? Message-ID: <w2zq1xoje6.fsf@first.gmd.de> Date: 8 Oct 96 10:11:29 GMT Sender: news@bigfoot.first.gmd.de Hi, Well, as it is this Card is not on the holy compatibility list, but there seem to be chances to get it to work. The hardware should be the same as for the real 2940UW, which is supported. Did anybody try this card? Somebody wrote a while ago, that he got a 3940 (which isn't on that holy list either) to work by changing the Auto Detect ID line of the Default.table file in /private/Drivers/i386/Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config and putting the modified driver on a 3rd Party Driver Floppy. Are these Auto Detect ID's serial numbers that can be read from the ROM of the card somehow? Thanks for any help Hubertus
From: Salvo@AccessOne .COM (Marc Salvatori) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems making a bootable JAZ disk Date: 8 Oct 1996 03:33:15 GMT Organization: AccessOne Message-ID: <53ci1r$gsu@kanga.accessone.com> References: <DypKF5.F17@midway.uchicago.edu> Cc: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu In <DypKF5.F17@midway.uchicago.edu> Lars A. Stole wrote: > (2) load a Next-formatted and initialized JAZ disk (i.e., already > previously having run "sdform /dev/rsd2a" and "disk -i -t > IOMEGAJAZ-1G /dev/rsd2a"), No need to have done the last part. Builddisk runs disk to initialize the file system. This may be why "build" produced nothing. To avoid having to do another sdformat, with the disk unmounted, run 'disk -l "NewDisk" /dev/rsd3a' to remove the file system, and then give Builddisk another try. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | >< >< mailto:salvo@accessone.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted ><
From: Salvo@AccessOne .COM (Marc Salvatori) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ethernet Cards Date: 8 Oct 1996 05:03:12 GMT Organization: AccessOne Message-ID: <53cnag$ib6@kanga.accessone.com> I am ready to cultivate my own network at home, with OpenStep and NT likely to cohabitate. Two cards I have in mind for my EISA machine are 3COM's EtherLink III and Intel's EtherExpress PRO. The latter appeals to me because it is fast ethernet. I am interested in anyone's experience with these two cards. This might also be a good time to consider adding a jetdirect to my HP1200C/PS. I have no idea what to consider for a hub. Aside from category 5, is there anthing else that's required? I plan to acquire a second machine this summer; it may likely be a Pentium, though I haven't yet ruled out a sparc server. -- >< Marc J. Salvatori | >< >< mailto:salvo@accessone.com | MIME & NeXTMail are accepted ><
From: rick@bucky.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (Rick Workman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 on 3.3 <- help me too!! Date: 8 Oct 1996 06:32:26 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Message-ID: <53cshq$10cs@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <52dbo9$ps3@news.univ-rennes1.fr> In article <52dbo9$ps3@news.univ-rennes1.fr> wendling@next (Fabrice Wendling) writes: > Hello ! > > Does anybody knows how to install a SB16 on 3.3 ? > > I think I adjusted the right parameters (A220, DMA 1 and IRQ 5) since > this card works well under MS windows with these parameters. > > However, when I boot in verbose mode, I get a message saying that no > SB device is recognized at address 220H. > > I also tried with the later drivers (found on www.next.com) without succes. > > My plateform is an Intel P166, NextStep 3.3. > > Thanks for your help. I am having the same problem with the SoundBlaster32 PnP. I set the parameters the same as above, and I get the same message on boot, except that the system hangs just before the login window normally pops up. I had to edit /usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table to remove the reference to the SB. I'm also using NS 3.3 on a P6-200. thanks, Rick Workman Optical Sciences Center Tucson, Az
From: jinntung@pacbell.net (J T Su) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3.5" MO FAQ (Draft) Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 00:44:54 -0800 Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Message-ID: <jinntung-ya023080000810960044540001@news.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 3.5" Magneto-Optical (MO) Drives FAQ - Draft October 1996 Copyright 1996 by Jinn Su (jinntung@pacbell.net) - Advantages Durability. An MO drive writes data by heating the alloy layer found in the disk to a high temperature, and then using a strong magnetic field to write each bit. This information is then read by a laser, similar to a CD player. Magneto-optical technology has a shelf life of 30 years, versus a shelf life of 7 years for magnetic media. Magnetic media technologies use read-write heads that contact or ride very close to the media surface, increasing the likelihood of head crashes. In contrast, MO drives use lens assemblies which operate much farther media surface. Price. The cost of magneto-optical media has long been prohibitive. For example, 230 MB media cost $75 per disk when they were first introduced in 1994. By 1996 however, 230 MB 3.5" MO disks cost less than $20 per disk, with prices dropping to $10 per disk by August 1996. When first introduced in 1996, 3.5" 640 MO disks cost about $50 per disk. A cursory inspection of a typical mail-order catalog will reveal that the cost per megabyte of MO media compares favorably to other popular removable media technologies. CD-R media costs less, but is not rewriteable. PD media also costs less, but PD drives have typical seek times of 150 ms. - Drawbacks Price. Magnetic-optical drives have traditionally cost more than competing magnetic media drives. However, MO drives now compare favorably. In addition, MO's lower media costs negate any higher up- front costs, typically after only 2 to 3 GB of total storage. Slower write times. The lens assemblies used by MO drives are more massive than magnetic read-write heads, resulting in slower seek times. Also, MO drives require two passes to write to a disk. The first pass sets all the bits back to 0, and the second pass writes the data. This results in write times that are twice as long as read times. Needless to say, drive manufacturers have been concentrating their efforts on a write-once process for MO drives. The first of these were introduced in early 1996. This new process is called LIM-DOW (light intensity modulated direct overwrite). - The 3.5" format This FAQ examines only the 3.5" format MO drives. The media, and very often the drives, are compact and portable. In addition, many 3.5" MO drives are sold as internal drives. A good chunk of MO research is being devoted to expanding and improving the 3.5" format, and it is the author's opinion that this will be the format of the future. Other formats are 5.25" drives, commonly found in 1.3 GB and 2.6 GB capacities. There are also proprietary technologies developed by Pinnacle Micro and Maxoptix which have capacities up to 4.3 GB. - Evolution Proprietary. In the beginning, the lack of any standards created a hodge-podge of proprietary technologies. In 1991, manufacturers agreed upon a standard for 3.5" MO drives. This standard allowed disks formatted and written in one manufacturer's drive to be read and used in another manufacturer's drive. 128 MB. In 1991, the first drives manufactured from ISO/IEC 10090 standard reached the market. They stored 128 MB on single 3.5" disk about twice the thickness of a standard 3.5" floppy disk. 230 MB. In 1994, manufacturers introduced the 3.5" 230 MB format, based on the ISO/IEC DIS 13963 or ECMA-201 standards. These drives are backwards-compatible with the 128 MB format. However, many 230 MB drives are slower when used with 128 MB disks. 640 MB. In 1996, drives using the ISO 3.5" 640 MB format were introduced. These drives incorporate LIM-DOW write-once processes, which significantly reduces write times. 1.3 GB and beyond. Sony and Toshiba are working on double-sided drives and newer technologies to put 1.3 GB and 2.6 GB on 3.5" MO disks. Again, the focus is on write-once processes. - Fujitsu DynaMO 230 3600 rpm 237 KB cache 30 ms avg seek time Introduced April 1994 $499 list, $250-300 bare drive (8/96) The DynaMO 230 comes in parallel and SCSI versions. For the SCSI, you can buy the DynaMO as a PC or Macintosh package, or as a bare drive. These three versions differ only in whether a cable is included, and what kind of formatting software is included. The PC version comes with an Adaptec AHA-1542C ISA controller and a standard Adaptec EZ-SCSI bundle. The Macintosh version comes with a 25 to 50 SCSI cable and Anubis' Charismac formatting software. The bare drive comes with no SCSI cable and no formatting software. All three come with one 230 MB Fujitsu MO disk. Physical. The drive is housed in a beige plastic case, measuring 1" tall by 4" wide by 5.7" deep. A brick-style transformer supplies 9V DC power. The whole package weighs less than 2 pounds making it very portable. Four dip-switches control write-verify, PC/MAC mode, etc. etc. There is only one 50-pin SCSI connector, so the drive must be installed at the end of the SCSI chain, or a splitter connector (e.g. APS SCSI Buddy) must be used. SCSI ID is set by a rotary-style selector also found on the back of the drive. A plastic clip-on stand allows the drive to be used on its side. This is the recommended orientation, to prevent dust from settling on the optical lens. Alternatively, four little rubber feet can be stuck to the bottom of the case if the drive is to be used flat. A single LED light on the front indicates when the drive is in use. There is no power LED, so it is easy to forget to the turn the drive off when finished. An eject button is also found on the front of the drive. A metal pin can manually eject disks via a pinhole. Use. The disks insert easily, guided by the drive's bezeled front. A clear door drops into place indicating "CARTRIDGE INSERTED" when a disk is inserted. The DynaMO 230 has no fan, which makes it extremely quiet. It is silent when no disk is in the drive, and emits a gentle hum when the drive is in use. However, disks are hot to the touch after they are ejected, especially after writing operations. Though somewhat alarming at first, I have not seen this affect the integrity of the data. Performance. Read/write transfer rates. Miscellanous. The external DynaMO 230 can be converted into an internal version, with the purchase of a conversion kit directly from Fujitsu. For example, the DynaMO 230 can be installed internally in Macintosh tower cases with a $35 kit that includes a mounting bracket and front bezel. Mechanism. The Fujitsu DynaMO 230 is based on the Fujitsu M2512A mechanism. The DynaMO 230 replaced the DynaMO 128, which was based on the Fujitsu M2511A mechanism. Another drive based on the Fujitsu M2512A mechanism is FWB. - Olympus Deltis PowerMO 230 4500 rpm 1 MB cache 23.5 ms seek time Introduced November 1995 $450 Macintosh version (8/96) Versions. The DOS/Windows version comes with an Adaptec 1505 16- bit ISA SCSI controller. For the Macintosh version, Software Architects' FormatterOne Pro drive formatting software is included. Also included is one Olympus disk. Physical. The drive is housed in a beige metal case 7" tall by 5" wide by 12" deep. There is a push-button SCSI selector on the back, two 50-pin SCSI connectors, and a power connector. There is a SCSI OK LED on the back of the drive to indicate the integrity of the SCSI chain. There is also a digital active termination switch, which permits easy termination of the SCSI chain. An AC power cord feeds the transformer mounted inside the drive's case. Also included is a heavy-duty 3-foot 25 to 50 pin SCSI cable. The drive itself is oriented vertically, although the manual states that the drive can also be used horizontally. There are both power and active LED's on the front, as well as an eject button and a manual eject pinhole. Use. Disks were not as easy to insert through the PowerMO's slender slot, requiring more care to align the disk with the opening. The PowerMO with its built-in fan is also much noisier than the DynaMO, but disks come out after all operations at room temperature, not toasty hot. This drive was not designed for portability, weighing close to 6 pounds. Performance. With the a 4500 rpm drive speed, the fastest according to Olympus, and a 1 MB cache, the PowerMO is noticeably faster than the DynaMO. Sustained read transfer rate is 1.84 MB/s. Sustained write transfer rate is 550 KB/s with verify, 855 KB/s without. Mechanism. The Olympus Deltis PowerMO 230 is based on the Olympus MOS321A mechanism. The second-generation Olympus MOS321A mechanism replaces the earlier MOS320 mechanism, which ran at 4200 rpm and had a 256 KB cache. Another drive based on the Olympus MOS321A mechanism is the APS 230 MO. - Fujitsu Notebook MO drives 2700 rpm 128 KB cache 65 ms avg seek time Introduced 3/96 $400 list Versions. In the PowerBook 190 series and 5300 series, the floppy disk drive mechanism has been designed to be easily removable, and an extra hard disk drive or removable media drive slid into the empty bay. One popular choice is to put a 3.5" 230MB MO drive in this bay. Companies which offer such a drive are VST, APS, and Fujitsu. It is 17 mm high, and weighs 8.8 ounces. For PC notebooks, a PCMCIA connects the drive to the computer. The drives all appear to be based on the Fujitsu M2541 mechanism, and differ only in the formatting software included. In addition, these PowerBook drives are IDE drives, not SCSI, which warrants special attention to the formatting software used. For the Macintosh, FWB's Hard Disk Toolkit version 2.0 installs both SCSI and IDE drivers onto optical media it formats. - Mitsubishi MCA230LC 27 ms avg seek time $400 (10/96) - Olympus SYS.230 4200 rpm 256 KB cache 17 ms avg seek time Introduced August 1996 $299 internal, $359 SCSI, $389 Universal Versions. The Universal SYS.230 comes with both SCSI and parallel cables and can be connected to both types of ports. The internal SYS.230 is SCSI only, and comes with mounting hardware. No SCSI adapter for PC's is included. Each version comes with one disk. Physical. The SYS.230 is a sleek, black plastic case with rounded corners measuring approximately 2" high by 6" wide by 8" deep. Like the DynaMO, the SYS.230 comes with a plastic stand which allows the drive to be used on its side. The SYS.230 was clearly designed to be portable. It weighs about 2 pounds. Performance. Olympus introduced the SYS.230 with some new acronyms. First, there is the ECA (Enhanced Cache Algorithm), which Olympus claims is a equivalent to a 300 rpm speed boost and gives the 4200 rpm SYS.230 performance equivalent to a 4500 rpm drive. Second, there is SFP (Super Fine Positioning), which refers to the optical lens assembly. SFP has apparently permitted Olympus to reduce the size and cost of the drive. Olympus claims data transfer rates of 2.4 MB/s, which most likely represents the maximum read transfer rate. I have not had the opportunity to test the SYS.230. Mechanism. The SYS.230 uses the MOS330E mechanism, representing the third-generation of Olympus MO drives. - Fujitsu DynaMO 640 3600 rpm 256 KB cache (2 MB optional) 35 ms avg seek time Introduced March 1996 $550-600 (8/96) The DynaMO 640 uses LIM-DOW (light-intensity modulated direct over write), which allows it to write in only one pass. The 640 MB MO disks that can be used in the DynaMO 640 are are 2048 bytes/sector, which may cause difficulties with certain formatting software packages. The magnetic films used in them are different than those used in 128 MB and 230 MB MO disks. The 640 MB disks are the only ones that take can take advantage of the DynaMO 640's LIM-DOW capabilities. The DynaMO 640 can also use 540 MB MO disks, which are 512 bytes/sector, just like 128 MB and 230 MB MO disks. Nevertheless, the DynaMO 640 is backwards compatible with 128 MB and 230 MB disks. However, it is read-only with 128 MB disks. Physical. The DynaMO 640 comes in a beige plastic case 2.2" high by 6.7" wide by 8.9 deep". It weighs 3.6 pounds. I have not had the opportunity to use a DynaMO 640. Performance. Because of the LIM-DOW technology, the DynaMO 640 does not suffer from the slower write times of previous MO drives. Read transfer rates range from 1.84 MB/s to 3.07 MB/s. Fujitsu claims performance equivalent to a 14x CD-ROM player. Mechanism. The DynaMO 640 is based on the Fujitsu M2513A mechanism. Other drives based on the M2513A mechanism are the LaCie 640 Optical and Pinnacle Micro Tahoe 640. - Mitsubishi MCA640 35 ms avg seek time $599 (10/96) - Manufacturers Drives Fujitsu Computer Products of America, Inc. 2904 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95134 800-735-4510 http://www.fcpa.com Mitsubishi Chemical America Information Storage Division 99 West Tasman Drive, Suite 200 San Jose, CA 95134 408-232-6253 408-954-8494 fax http://www.mitsubishi-infostorage.com Olympus Image Systems, Inc. Two Corporate Center Drive Melville, NY 11747-3157 800-347-4027 516-844-5000 516-844-5325 516-549-7575 http://www.olympus.co.jp Sony Corporation HS HyperStorage High-Density MO: http://www.sony.co.jp/TechnoGarage/HS/index.html Disks 3M 3M Product Information Center 3M Center, Building 515-3N-06 St. Paul, MN 55144-1000 U.S.A. 800-3M HELPS (1-800-364-3577) Direct dial phone: 612-737-6501 Toll free fax: 1-800-713-6329 Direct dial fax: 612-737-7117 http://www.mmm.com Fujifilm (beige) Fujitsu Computer Products of America, Inc. 2904 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95134 800-735-4510 http://www.fcpa.com (transparent blue) Kyocera Industrial Ceramics Corp. 5713 E. Fourth Plain Boulevard Vancouver, WA 98661 Maxell 800-377-5887 http://www.maxell.com Memorex Olympus Image Systems, Inc. Two Corporate Center Drive Melville, NY 11747-3157 800-347-4027 516-844-5000 516-844-5325 516-549-7575 http://www.olympus.co.jp Sony Electronics Inc. Recording Media & Energy Products Group 2 Van Riper Road Montvale, NJ 07645 201-476-8199 Verbatim Corporation 1200 W.T. Harris Blvd Charlotte, North Carolina 28262 http://www.verbatimcorp.com 800-759-DISK - Appendix The recent proliferation of removeable storage technologies makes comparison inevitable. I am reluctant to make such comparisons, but the amount of interest makes a presentation of at least a few data necessary. Read xfer rate Write xfer rate Seek time, avg (ms) Cache Cost per disk (est'd) MB/disk Drive cost (est'd, includes one disk) 12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890 Size_______Read______Write____Seek_Cache___Cost____MB__Drive Syquest 44 5.25 $50 44 - Syquest 88 5.25 $55 88 $200 Zip 3.5 $10 100 $150 EZ135 3.5 $15 135 $150 Syquest 200 5.25 $80 200 $420 Bernoulli 2.67 2.67 18ms $85 230 $220 EZFlyer230 2.4 2.4 13.5ms $20 230 $250 Syquest 270 3.5 $69 270 $280 Nomai MCD 3.5 10 10 10ms $55 540 $360 Jaz 6.73 6.73 12ms $80 1000 $400 SyJet ? 1000 ? MCA 1300 5.25 2.3 20ms $70 1300 $1200 PowerMO 2600 5.25 6 MB/s 13ms 2600 $109 $1900
From: jinntung@pacbell.net (J T Su) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3.5" MO FAQ (Read Me) Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 00:45:37 -0800 Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Message-ID: <jinntung-ya023080000810960045370001@news.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Here is a draft of my 3.5" MO FAQ. Please send your suggestions and comments to jinntung@pacbell.net. As you can see, I could use some information on the Mitsubishi MO drives. I would also appreciate some help with the Appendix and its comparison chart. Thanks. The new SYS.230 seems to be making quite a splash. It is too bad the 5 free disks offer has ended. J T Su jinntung@pacbell.net
From: Sven & Jennifer Crouse <svenifer@snet.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q]Testing modem Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 14:30:02 -0400 Organization: Customer of SNET Internet: http://www.snet.net/ Message-ID: <325A9D68.73F0039A@snet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any suggestions on ways to test my internal modem in OpenStep 4.0 Mach? I have it working in other OSes. /usr/adm/messages reveals that EISA/ISA drivers are loaded and that ISASerialPort0 is registered w/ correct address and interupt. No communication package, i.e. minicom, seems to be included with OpenStep so I have tried tip (tip -v /dev/cu[a|b|fa|fb] & a million other combos) with messages about unknown Serial devices and lines in use. No lock files that I can find anywhere. Any suggestions appreciated Sven
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Symbios driver broken in OS4.0 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:56:19 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.961008103742.12532A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I figured out a serious bug in the Symbios Logic SCSI driver supplied with OpenStep 4.0. Because I'm driving a system configuration which I expect is very rare, you probably don't need to worry and it's just nice to know this beast: The bug arised for me with the following hardware: NCR 53C810 Controller. External and internal cabling both activly terminated. Tested with term power from controller/on drive and one end/two drives at both ends to SCSI bus. I figured out two major problems: 1) I connected _only_ an SCSI CDROM to the internal SCSI cable. Aktivly terminated. Harddisks, streamer are external connected. Effect: CD-ROM doesn't get recogniced by CDPlayer. (Seems to send a special SCSI command) but by OmniCD 2) Connected one harddisk additional to the internal SCSI cable with Term Power support. So there is the CD-ROM and one harddisk internal and several other harddisks and streamer external connected. Effect: the CD-ROM get's recognized by CD-Player. Up to now you might think: 'hey what is this guy talking about, these are termination problems, for sure!' It is worse... Termination is correct. If rechecked it a dozen times. The nice thing is, that exactly the same configuration works perfectly with NS3.3!!! Under OS4.0, with config 2) enabled, a serious bug arises: disks are not automounted correctly anymore! Nearly every second loggin some disks get mounted as folders (this means you see a folder instead of a winchester icon). If you don't touch the system and just log out and log in again, there is no sync on the drive during the umount process and Workspace will report 'bad disk. Repair?' for the previously wrong mounted disks. Even worse: in very rare circumstances this can trash several automounted disks, so you can't reboot! (Happened to me once). However if you're doing a mout/umount on the wrong automounted device by hand, everything seems fine again (even the winchester icons occur). One solution therefore is to mount _all_ disks with /etc/fstab entries. It is a bug in the new driver or underlying SCSI system of OS4.0. No problems with NS3.3. It doesn't matter whether the synchronous/wide options are enabled or disabled. It may trash your disks! Does anybody drive a similar system? Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz (IRC: Boerny) scholzb@pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de http://peanuts.leo.org/ http://www.leo.org/~scholz/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: 030 and NS 3.3??? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DyxrFt.5vD@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 02:40:41 GMT References: <52sgd7$dtg@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> <Dyst7C.2r4@nidat.sub.org> <5391og$bb3@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5391og$bb3@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu>, >Memory I can get easily enough... it only has 8MB right now because we >just wanted to test the board to make sure it worked... and it does boot up >completely, it just crashes after it finishes all the rc scripts... I >think it wants more memory... because it keeps *trying* to get the login >screen up, but never makes it. Do you have a monitor hooked up to it? The Windowserver won't start properly without one. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: £ <ô Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: Ethernet connection Date: 8 Oct 1996 16:38:03 GMT Organization: NAVOCEANO Message-ID: <53e01b$e7d@tomcat.msrcnavo.navy.mil> Hello, I have a simple question. I have 10BaseT (twisted pair) coming into my NeXT slab from a Cisco router. I would like to then connect additional machines via a 10Base2 (thin wire coax) network. Can I use both of the Ethernet connections at the back of the slab concurrently for this purpose? Or do I give up on the 10Base2 network, and instead buy a 10BaseT hub? Thanks in advance for the info. --- Dale A. Schack Tel: +1 (403) 270 3737 Front Range Publishing Corp. Fax: +1 (403) 270 0387 727 - 4A Street N.W. email: Dale.Schack@frontrange.ab.ca Calgary Alberta T2N 1P6 CANADA
From: Scott Mewett <mewett@planeteer.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Battery For NeXT--Where?? (FAQ has problems) Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 08:37:02 -0700 Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <325A751E.51E7@planeteer.com> References: <53c20a$l74@uuneo.neosoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Robert B. Love" <rlove@neosoft.com> I just bought one from Radio Shack. It was about $8 Canadian. It you have trouble finding one at radio shack then let me know and i will see what i can do about sending you one from up here. Scott Robert B. Love wrote: > > I went to the FAQ for NeXT hardware and found the information about > where to get a replacement battery for my NeXT. First I called the > place to find out the phone number has changed. Calling the new > number I find it is the main order number, I need the "small" order > number. I then call the small order number only to be told that > they have a $25 minimum--for a $10 battery. > > I then tried Nathan Janette's email to tell him the FAQ needs updating > and the e-mail bounced. Who keeps the h/w faq now? > > Anybody have a source for a single 3V replacement battery for NeXT? > Failing that anybody want to do a group order? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Love, rlove@neosoft.com (local) MIME & NeXT Mail OK > rlove@raptor.rmnug.org (permanent) PGP key available > ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Does NS support DPMS cards/monitors? Date: 8 Oct 1996 11:30:36 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <sams.844798966@shellx> References: <vee20ffocbr.fsf@shell.one.net> <sams.844451844@shellx> <veepw2ubgal.fsf@shell.one.net> shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) writes: >Sam, you've lost me. Am I looking in the right Preferences (.app)? I >see nothing remotely like monitor shutdown, let alone CPU slowdown or >hard drive spindown. I am running NS3.3, though. Perhaps this >requires PCI? The Preferences.app module for "Power Management Preferences" only appears if your motherboard supports advanced power management and you have enabled that feature in the bios. If this is the case you get the option to Manage power for: Best performance Energy efficiency This is a bit misleading; if you select "Best performance" you have disabled power management, and if you select "Energy effciency" you have enabled whatever power management features you turned on in the bios. In my case, there is no performance difference, and selecting "best performance" only keeps it from shutting off the monitor after 30 minutes of mouse & keyboard inactivity. (I hope I'm answering the question you're asking...) cheers, -sam
From: "Don Guthrie" <dguthrie@iisys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Speeding up NeXT 68040 - 25MHz Date: 8 Oct 1996 18:39:01 GMT Organization: insanely interactive systems, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <01bbb547$ec77a4b0$e84822c0@pcdon> Is it possible to replace the 25MHz processor with a 33MHz processor and change the clock crystal in order to gain a little speed on NeXT cube machine? If so, what exactly needs to be done? Please email replies. Don
From: "Don Guthrie" <dguthrie@iisys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory - Parity or not to Parity Date: 8 Oct 1996 18:37:37 GMT Organization: insanely interactive systems, Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <01bbb547$b9dca050$e84822c0@pcdon> I have a Black Next Cube (68040 25MHz) machine. I'm adding memory to it and need to know if it uses parity or non-parity memory. If non-parity memory is used, should parity memory still work? Please email replies. Thanks
From: peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SILENT - FAST - (CHEAP ) Date: 8 Oct 1996 08:43:25 GMT Organization: Peter's Private Newsserver Message-ID: <53d47d$8n@unity.westfalen.de> Hi Friends, can somebody recommend a quiet, fast and (cheap) 2 GB HD for black Hardware? thank you very much for your help Peter -- peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) Peter Kopatzki Am Bredberg 21 D-49143 Schledehausen "The only purpose of life is Bliss" -Go and create it! NeXTmail and MIME welcome Phone:+49(0)5402 98050 Public Key on request
From: peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: delayed 2 hours Date: 8 Oct 1996 08:49:52 GMT Organization: Peter's Private Newsserver Message-ID: <53d4jg$8n@unity.westfalen.de> Hi Friends, has ever somebody seen this message "delayed 2 hours" in connection with the modem and solve it cause the modem don't connect without power off and on. thank you very much for your help Peter -- peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) Peter Kopatzki Am Bredberg 21 D-49143 Schledehausen "The only purpose of life is Bliss" -Go and create it! NeXTmail and MIME welcome Phone:+49(0)5402 98050 Public Key on request
From: glee@physics.Mines.EDU (Ginny Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! Config ATI CT Mach 64 successes or failures?? Date: 8 Oct 1996 20:33:48 GMT Organization: Colorado School of Mines Message-ID: <53edrc$11qe@magma.Mines.EDU> Howdy, Has anyone had success or utter failure configuring an ATI CT Mach 64 video board with any version of NeXTStep?? I'm having some problems configuring NeXTStep 3.3 with an ATI CT Mach 64 video card (PCI with 2MB DRAM) ....it came in a Gateway 2000 Pentium/133 system that was NOT bought with NeXTStep in mind (gotten for a DOS network that the dept later decided not to setup)...I'm not sure that this board can be used! Does anyone know anything about the "CT"? From the info on NeXTAnswers it *seems* that the ATI Ultra Pro Mach 64 driver *might* be compatable... "CT" might be Gateway's name?? (no mention of ATI "CT" Mach 64 in NeXTAnswers) With the most current ATI Mach 64 driver (v 3.37) installed I get the standard incompatibility problem with I/O addresses: 0x000052ee-0x00000feef Deleting these I/O addresses worked on another system I'd set up that has an ATI Mach 32, but with this set up I get a couple of new error messages: -FB addr decodes as 0xfff00000, overriding configured addr 0x7e00000 -Display0: unknown DAC on ATI board -- ID: 7 and the boot is hung and installation is hosed. Does anyone know what these messages mean? Do they mean that this board is not supported by the ATI Mach 64 driver? Or does anyone know of a work-around? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated... (please cc me) Thanks...Ginny -- o----------------------------------------o Ginny Lee / glee@physics.mines.edu Physics Dept System Admistrator Colorado School of Mines Golden, CO 80401 (303)384-2122
From: kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Treasure) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 030 and NS 3.3??? Date: 8 Oct 1996 17:03:47 -0700 Organization: California Polytechnic State University at San Luis Obispo Message-ID: <53eq53$554@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> References: <52sgd7$dtg@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> <Dyst7C.2r4@nidat.sub.org> <5391og$bb3@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> <DyxrFt.5vD@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: > > Do you have a monitor hooked up to it? The Windowserver won't start >properly without one. We did have a monitor connected, and it kept trying, but returning to a grey screen before the login prompt ever got up. You could telnet remotely however. -Kristin -- THIS IS A 100% MATTER PRODUCT: In the Unlikely Event That This Merchandise Should Contact Antimatter in Any Form, a Catastrophic Explosion Will Result. http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~kamundse/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Comparison wanted: Black 17" and 21" color monitors Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DyytGx.8A9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:22:09 GMT References: <539a72$ksj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <539a72$ksj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, <jdevlin@umich.edu> wrote: >Hello, > >I might be buying a turbo color and I was wondering if someone who had >worked with both could offer a comparison of the upgraded Sony 17" color >monitor that NEXT was last shipping and the 21" color monitor that was an >option (was the 21" monitor ever upgraded?) > I think all 21" monitors from NeXT were the Hitachi (or was it Panasonic?) version. I have one from September 1991 or so and it's still pretty good. Not as sharp as the Trinitrons we have in the lab, but still very respectable given its age. It's much better than 19" Sun colour monitors from the same era. If the 17" is a FIMI then go for the 21". The one FIMI I've seen looked no better than my Hitachi and it was newer. However, if it was a choice between a 21" Hitachi or a 17" Sony then it's tougher. You'd likely have to A/B them to make a wise decision. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Battery For NeXT--Where?? (FAQ has problems) Date: 9 Oct 1996 07:31:44 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development, Germany Message-ID: <53fkd0$gj@turbocat.turbocat.de> References: <53c20a$l74@uuneo.neosoft.com> rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) wrote: (...) > Anybody have a source for a single 3V replacement battery for NeXT? > Failing that anybody want to do a group order? You local shopping centre, photo shop or were they sell batteries for cameras. Take the old battery to the shop. _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Phone +49 33056 82151, Fax +49 33056 82152 (______) dave@turbocat.de (NeXTMail,MIME)
From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Battery For NeXT--Where?? (FAQ has problems) Date: 9 Oct 1996 08:57:32 GMT Organization: Unconfigured Message-ID: <53fpds$jdb@jaring.my> References: <53c20a$l74@uuneo.neosoft.com> <325A751E.51E7@planeteer.com> You ought to be able to get a 3V lithium battery in any camera shop. Kodak makes 'em. My slab used the same battery as my Pentax camera. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Michael Olan Email: michael@rumah.pc.my (NeXT Mail OK) Senior Lecturer - Computer Science michael@ppp.itm.my American Degree Program Fax: 6-03-5482329 Institut Teknologi MARA Section 17, Shah Alam, Malaysia PGP Key available ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: singer@aluminum.mps.ohio-state.edu. (Sherwin Singer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Keyboard/Mouse connection Date: 9 Oct 1996 11:28:30 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Mathematics Message-ID: <53g28u$mg@mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu> Keywords: keyboard mouse The 8-pin female connection and/or the small circuit board which connects to a ribbon cable needs replacement on my keyboard (black hardware). [The connection is faulty and will only work if I apply pressure in a certain direction. I've already replaced my mouse, therefore....] Does anyone know where I can order those parts? I'm not eager to pay the $100+ to Bell Atlantic for a complete keyboard swap. Thanks, -- Sherwin Singer internet: singer@mps.ohio-state.edu Dept. of Chemistry bitnet: singer@ohstpy Ohio State University (614)292-8909 FAX: (614)292-1685
From: scott@bcog.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Comparison wanted: Black 17" and 21" color monitors Date: 9 Oct 1996 06:15:25 GMT Organization: British Columbia Openstep Group Message-ID: <53fftt$mer@news.bctel.net> References: <539a72$ksj@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> jdevlin@umich.edu wrote: >Hello, > >I might be buying a turbo color and I was wondering if someone who had >worked with both could offer a comparison of the upgraded Sony 17" color >monitor that NEXT was last shipping and the 21" color monitor that was an >option (was the 21" monitor ever upgraded?) > >Many thanks. >-- >John Devlin >Department of Philosophy >The University of Michigan >Ann Arbor, MI 48109 - 1003 The 21" color monitor is the reason I'm still using my Nextstation turbo. If there was only a way to use it with an Intel system......
From: Alois Steindl <asteindl@mch2ws1.tuwien.ac.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Many bad blocks on SyQuest 256MB drive Date: 09 Oct 1996 10:12:47 +0200 Organization: Inst. f. Mechanics II, TU Vienna Message-ID: <u7ran8zhc0.fsf@mch2ws1.tuwien.ac.at> Hello, 2 years ago I bought a SyQuest (3270?) drive. I use it for small backups and temporary scratch space. It ran without any problem more than a year. Suddenly I got some bad blocks. So I decided to get a new medium. But with this medium it is even worse. I already did several disk -F and disk -i, after which it runs fine for a while, but then the bad blocks appear again. (I didn't check it precisely, but it seems to me, that their block numbers are the same) I also have the impression, that these problems occur if 2 processes write to the drive simultaneously. Has anyone else similar experieces with this drive? I am hesitating to get a third medium. Thanks for any answers Alois -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Alois Steindl, Tel.: +43 (1) 58801 / 5529 Inst. for Mechanics II, Fax.: +43 (1) 5875863 TU Vienna, A-1040 Wiedner Hauptstr. 8-10 Email: Alois.Steindl+Mechanik@tuwien.ac.at ___________________________________________________________________________
From: jray@bigmac.ag.ohio-state.edu (John Ray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: [HELP] Add memory (intel) and screen goes black?! Date: 9 Oct 1996 12:21:23 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Distribution: inet Message-ID: <jray-0910960824290001@hh264b.ag.ohio-state.edu> Hello, We just went from 32MB to 80MB RAM on our Intel server machine. Rebooting OS 4.0 worked fine - it recognized the memory, and all appeared well. Except it never brought up the login screen. Everything appeared to be working (remotely) - but when I tried (blindly) to login at the console, the machine froze, and a pixel high line of garbage graphics appeared. Any thoughts? Thanks, John
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: Ethernet connection Date: 9 Oct 1996 08:14:47 -0400 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <53g4vn$lpi@papoose.quick.com> References: <53e01b$e7d@tomcat.msrcnavo.navy.mil> In article <53e01b$e7d@tomcat.msrcnavo.navy.mil>, # <t> wrote: > I have a simple question. I have 10BaseT (twisted pair) coming into my >NeXT slab from a Cisco router. I would like to then connect additional >machines via a 10Base2 (thin wire coax) network. Can I use both of the >Ethernet connections at the back of the slab concurrently for this purpose? >Or do I give up on the 10Base2 network, and instead buy a 10BaseT hub? No, the slab has a single ethernet interface with two types of connectors. The two connectors may not be used simultaneously. You may be able to use an inexpensive 10baseT hub to connect your systems together. Cisco |<----X-over-cable--->|Hub|<====Thin=net=leg====>. . . . N.B. I don't know how the | |<----normal-cable---->host cisco is wired so by X-over | |<----normal-cable---->host I mean the opposite of how | |<----normal-cable---->host it's connected to your host | |<----normal-cable---->host now Though I have not done anything with the exact configuration you need, I have dones something very similar. I took a twisted pair line coming from a 3com hub and used a crossover cable to connect a small hub instead of a host. I then used normal cables to connect several hosts to the hub. Since most small hubs have a BNC connector as well as multiple twisted pairs you should be able to do it. I'm no networking expert but I think the rules are: Hub to Host normal cable Hub to Hub use Crossover cable Host to Host use Crossover cable (Host to host direct with no hubs - poor man's 2 host network) -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished.
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speeding up NeXT 68040 - 25MHz Date: 9 Oct 1996 08:16:37 -0400 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <53g535$lr2@papoose.quick.com> References: <01bbb547$ec77a4b0$e84822c0@pcdon> In article <01bbb547$ec77a4b0$e84822c0@pcdon>, Don Guthrie <dguthrie@iisys.com> wrote: >Is it possible to replace the 25MHz processor with a 33MHz processor and >change the clock crystal in order to gain a little speed on NeXT cube >machine? If so, what exactly needs to be done? No dice. The memory subsystem and all other bus interface chips need to be different as well. You need a motherboard replacement to go from 25 to 33Mhz. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished.
From: mkoivikk@ratol.fi (Mika Koivikko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 on 3.3 <- help me too! Date: 9 Oct 1996 09:28:42 GMT Organization: Kolumbus Information Network, Finnet Group Message-ID: <53fr8a$5kl@pinta.kolumbus.fi> I have SB16 PnP ,P133, NS 3.3, and I get it work: 1. I disable PnP, (I have ISA/EISA Bus Support v3.32) 2. I install Sound Blaster 16(8 and 16 bit DMA) v3.33 driver and set IRQ=5, DMA=1,5, PORT=0x220 3. I have to boot DOS and use ICU.EXE (DOS PnP config prog) and I disablbe port 108h 4. I boot back to NS and it works. (you have set it up again in DOS, if you power off) btw. How I can use my TB Monterey like sound device? Its DSP only work. I have installed MusicKit 4.1.1. (I have not read much mans) - Mika A:MikaKoivikko, Seminaarinkatu 2 as. 112, 92100 RAAHE, FINLAND P:+358-08-2231062 E:mkoivikk@ratol.fi
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: [HELP] Add memory (intel) and screen goes black?! Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:20:36 -0400 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <smKw=4200UhBE1ip0a@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <jray-0910960824290001@hh264b.ag.ohio-state.edu> In-Reply-To: <jray-0910960824290001@hh264b.ag.ohio-state.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 9-Oct-96 [HELP] Add memory (intel) a.. by John Ray@bigmac.ag.ohio- > We just went from 32MB to 80MB RAM on our Intel server machine. Rebooting > OS 4.0 worked fine - it recognized the memory, and all appeared well. Except > it never brought up the login screen. Everything appeared to be working > (remotely) - but when I tried (blindly) to login at the console, the machine > froze, and a pixel high line of garbage graphics appeared. Your video card almost certainly has a framebuffer mapped into the system's memory space-- either at 32MB or 64MB. When you added memory, it occupied the same space that the video card's framebuffer does, causing a conflict. You should be able to use Configure.app to remap where the framebuffer is located (although you may have to take out the additional RAM temporarily). -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mrbill@texas.net (Bill Bradford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RAM for '040 mono slab? Date: 9 Oct 1996 15:43:27 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <53gh6v$qmu@news2.texas.net> I'll be getting my first NeXTstation this evening, an '040/25 with 17" mono monitor, 8mb RAM, and 404mb HD. What I'm wondering: I know that NS 3.3 (installed on the system) will *suck* with 8mb of RAM. Will the NeXT slab system (non-Turbo) take 72-pin, 70ns 16mb SIMMs? If so, I'll yank the RAM out of my PC and give it to the NeXT for a while, until I can buy 8 4mb SIMMs to put in the black hardware and return the 16mb SIMMs to my PC. Please respond via email, as if this will work I wanna try it tonight. Bill Bradford mrbill@texas.net (who remembers drooling over the original NeXTcube and still has a couple of the foot-square "Actual Size" brochure/books that were sent out...)
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Battery For NeXT--Where?? (FAQ has problems) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:00:16 -0700 Organization: The NeXT FTP site at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961009105822.7845A-100000@kira> References: <53c20a$l74@uuneo.neosoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Robert B. Love" <rlove@neosoft.com> In-Reply-To: <53c20a$l74@uuneo.neosoft.com> send me a message with the SUBJECT 'send-ascii next-battery' and you'd get this file: > From: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com (Mark Tarbell) > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > Subject: Re: NeXTStation batteries > Date: 3 Feb 1996 01:11:26 GMT > Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA > Reply-To: Mark_Tarbell@Radical.Com (Mark Tarbell) > > In <4elua7$71b@news.next.com> Mike Paquette wrote, in part: > > The BR 2/3A 3 volt lithium cells have a life of roughly 5 years, after > > Just a note: > > The BR 2/3A is a discontinued designation. > The new battery designation is CR123. > These are available at any camera shop for > about $9 each. > > Mark >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu Subject: 4.0 on NEC Versa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <961009131808.1202AAFcJ.magnus@darwin> Keywords: OPENSTEP, NEC, Versa, AIS Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:18:08 GMT Hi, I have a NEC Versa 4050H, running with the AIS display driver (v3.30), which I have contemplated upgrading to OPENSTEP 4.0. Does anyone have any experiences with this? Thanks, -Magnus --- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology & Evolution The University of Chicago 1101 E. 57th St. Chicago, IL 60637-1573 USA magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (NeXT Mail, MIME) +1.312.702-1093 phone (lab) +1.312.667-5331 phone (home) +1.312.702-9740 fax
From: wimg@azuur.tn.tudelft.nl (Wim van Geloven) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 on 3.3 <- help me too!! Date: 9 Oct 1996 18:22:23 GMT Organization: Delft University of Technology, Faculty of Applied Physics Message-ID: <53gqgv$rb3@cyber.tn.tudelft.nl> References: <52dbo9$ps3@news.univ-rennes1.fr> <53cshq$10cs@news.ccit.arizona.edu> NextAnswers has released new versions of their EISAdriver and Soundblaster driver (see respectively NA2061 and NA2142). These resolve all previous problems with PNP cards. Wim van Geloven Delft University of Technology
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Pentium Pro / OpenStep panics (perhaps PPP related) Date: 9 Oct 1996 17:54:08 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Message-ID: <53gos0$lk5@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <53aip5$nnl@nntp1.best.com> cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) writes: There are problems with PPP 2.2 which will cause kernel panics under certain circumstances... but these are all rel;ated to UDP traffic as far as I recall. TCP should work fine. > moderate to heavy PPP traffic (for instance bringing up any graphics intensive > page via OmniWeb is almost guaranteed to panic the system.) The exact same PPP Hmm... now that is more like it... the new OmniWeb (i.e 2.0) crashes a lot when it uses threads to run lots of things in parallel. As it tries to download several ikmages in parallel then this may well be your problem. -bat.
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: [HELP] Add memory (intel) and screen goes black?! Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 22:06:00 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <53h7sm$cvj@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <jray-0910960824290001@hh264b.ag.ohio-state.edu> jray@bigmac.ag.ohio-state.edu (John Ray) wrote: > We just went from 32MB to 80MB RAM on our Intel server machine. Rebooting >OS 4.0 worked fine - it recognized the memory, and all appeared well. Except >it never brought up the login screen. Everything appeared to be working >(remotely) - but when I tried (blindly) to login at the console, the machine >froze, and a pixel high line of garbage graphics appeared. The odds are that your video card's memory aperature (the address range in which the framebuffer memory appears) is located in a range that overlaps with your machine's new memory. (Most machines shipped before early 1995 can't recognize memory addresses past 64 Mb, so video cards which support memory mapping video memory often default to placing that memory below 64 Mb) You can fix this by changing the location of the memory aperature to an address past 80 Mb (preferably WELL past...). The easiest way to do this is to reboot the machine, and at the text boot prompt, type in the option 'config=Default'. boot: config=Default This should boot your machine with the VGA video driver, which won't use the video memory aperature. With a bit of luck, the machine will come up with the normal 2 bit gray 640x480 video display. You can then log in as root, launch /NextAdmin/Configure.app, select Display, and change the memory aperature address using the Memory Address field. Note that if you can't boot your machine using 'config=Default', then the video hardware may have the memory aperature always enabled. In this case, you'll have to pull out the extra memory and reboot. Change the memeory aperature address, reboot to make sure everything still works, then shut down the machine and re-install the memory. Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory - Parity or not to Parity Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 22:07:31 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <53h7vg$cvj@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <01bbb547$b9dca050$e84822c0@pcdon> "Don Guthrie" <dguthrie@iisys.com> wrote: >I have a Black Next Cube (68040 25MHz) machine. I'm adding memory to it >and need to know if it uses parity or non-parity memory. If non-parity >memory is used, should parity memory still work? This particular machine doesn't use parity, and the parity line isn't connected. You can safely mix parity and non-parity memory in it. The machine takes 30-pin low profile SIMMs in groups of 4 identical parts. The SIMMs should be rated at 100 ns or faster (no advantage to faster memory here, though). 1 MB or 4 MB SIMMs are supported, for a maximum of 64 MB. Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: delayed 2 hours Date: 9 Oct 1996 07:42:45 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <53fl1l$1r6@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <53d4jg$8n@unity.westfalen.de> peter@unity.westfalen.de (Peter Kopatzki) wrote: > [...] has ever somebody seen this message "delayed 2 hours" in connection > with the modem [...] This is a typical message of a modem conforming with the German Federal Regulations for telecommunication equipment. According to a former German standard, a modem must not redial a busy line more than 12 times. There are two ways of implementing this "feature": Some modems simply stop to dial ANY number for a delay time of 1 or 2 hours after having received 12 "BUSY" errors, other modems (that have enough internal RAM) keep a blacklist of the respective numbers, so the modem can still dial, but will not accept the busy numbers for some delay time. I think the standards have changed in the meantime: The new regulations say that the modem simply has to pause for 5 seconds for the first three redials, and after that has to pause one minute only. What can you do about it? There are some FAQs on the internet that list undocumented (and illegal...) AT commands for nearly all modems to disable this "feature" ;-) Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 Mail: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (MIME/NeXT accepted) WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: kline@news.CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: IDE sector damaged, how to recover? Date: 9 Oct 1996 16:00:41 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <53haqp$3ot@cheltenham.CS.Arizona.EDU> I have an ide hard drive with ns 3.3 on it. It says there are 4 sectors unreadable in fsck. I didn't let fsck update the disk. It reported the same four sectors twice, when I ran it later. One of the sectors is probably the directory node of an important directory that when I try to look at I get "io errors" messages, and I can hear the drive seeking, and I can see the error messages in /usr/adm/messages. So what can I do to try to recover this sector? If I let fsck run, will it move the files in this directory to lost+found? I see that there are a few other files that can't be read on the disk, probably that's the other sectors. I tried looking at the sector every two minutes for a few hours, but that didn't work. thanks, nick
From: mingming@mwu.phys.oxy.edu (mingming wu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any recommendations for a HP laser printer to run on an intel machine? Date: 9 Oct 1996 23:17:52 GMT Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA Message-ID: <53hbr0$dj0@sophri.cc.oxy.edu> Keywords: laser printer I have a pentium 120 that runs OPenStep 4.0, with a Laser Writer II NT. I often run into problems sporadically when I print postscript files. It says " Postscript errors .....". I'd like to know if anyone else has run into the same problem. I am looking for a good, dependable laser printer, preferrablly a HP (under $1000), any suggestions? Kindly Regards mingming
From: "Tom Priore" <tpp109@psu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: need pricing help Date: 10 Oct 1996 01:24:24 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <01bbb649$b847c640$cb617680@god> I know someone who is offering this: being new to next, but knowing i want one, what is the going rate for the following hardware? NeXTturbo 68040 8MB RAM/240 MB hard disk OS NeXTStep 3.3 with monitor, ect. Thanks for any help
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speeding up NeXT 68040 - 25MHz Date: 10 Oct 1996 11:47:30 GMT Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland Message-ID: <53inoi$s29@elna.ethz.ch> References: <01bbb547$ec77a4b0$e84822c0@pcdon> <53g535$lr2@papoose.quick.com> James E. Quick (jq@papoose.quick.com) wrote: > You need a motherboard replacement to go from 25 to 33Mhz. There was the Pyro accelerator-card which had a 50MHz MC68040 on it. Of course you don't get more speed accessing memory, but for pure number crunching the machine is 100% faster (I have a Pyro in my colorstation). I'm not sure whether the boards are still being sold or not. Ask Samuel Goldberger <smg@orb.com> for details. - Felix
From: root@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: disk problem Date: 10 Oct 1996 12:55:50 GMT Organization: Computer Center, University of Siegen, Germany Message-ID: <53irom$rhm@si-nic.hrz.uni-siegen.de> References: <3258EE4B.6366D2A4@tu-harburg.d400.de> Ludger Solbach <solbach@tu-harburg.d400.de> wrote: >symptom: >------- >For the system and "df" the harddisk looks like providing only 1020 M of disk- >space, while fdisk recognizes that the disk actuall got 2064 M. The partition >table displayed by fdisk contains zeros only. > >configuration: >------------- >system: NeXT Step 3.3 >adaptor and driver: Adaptec 2940 with driver version 3.7 >disk: IBM DORS 32160 WA0A5U2F > >Any help is appreciated. If I remeber right, this also happened to me when adding a DORS 31260W to my OS 4.0/mach system. I typed disk -i /dev/rsd1a ..... ??? I thnik it reported something around 1000 MByte then i fdisk'ed it. then: disk -i /dev/rsd1h (yes 'h') and it seems to work.. just don't ask? bye Michael
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From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory - Parity or not to Parity Date: 10 Oct 1996 02:28:51 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <53hn13$53v@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bbb547$b9dca050$e84822c0@pcdon> <53h7vg$cvj@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) wrote: > "Don Guthrie" <dguthrie@iisys.com> wrote: > >I have a Black Next Cube (68040 25MHz) machine. I'm adding memory to it > >and need to know if it uses parity or non-parity memory. If non-parity > >memory is used, should parity memory still work? > This particular machine doesn't use parity, and the parity line isn't > connected. You can safely mix parity and non-parity memory in it. Didn't NeXT offer a parity memory option for my 1990 030 Cube when I bought it? I recall hearing that a slight performance penalty was incurred when parity memory was used, so something must have noticed the parity bit. But maybe my memory is failing... -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: [HELP] Add memory (intel) and screen goes black?! Date: 10 Oct 1996 07:34:29 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Distribution: inet Message-ID: <vee3ezn9hoa.fsf@shell.one.net> References: <jray-0910960824290001@hh264b.ag.ohio-state.edu> <53h7sm$cvj@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> In-reply-to: mpaque@next.com's message of Wed, 09 Oct 1996 22:06:00 GMT In article <53h7sm$cvj@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net>, mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) writes: jray@bigmac.ag.ohio-state.edu (John Ray) wrote: > We just went from 32MB to 80MB RAM on our Intel server machine. >Rebooting OS 4.0 worked fine - it recognized the memory, and all >appeared well. Except it never brought up the login screen. >Everything appeared to be working (remotely) - but when I tried >(blindly) to login at the console, the machine froze, and a pixel >high line of garbage graphics appeared. The odds are that your video card's memory aperature (the address range in which the framebuffer memory appears) is located in a range that overlaps with your machine's new memory. ... Note that if you can't boot your machine using 'config=Default', then the video hardware may have the memory aperature always enabled. In this case, you'll have to pull out the extra memory and reboot. Change the memeory aperature address, reboot to make sure everything still works, then shut down the machine and re-install the memory. Since I'm hoping to have this problem Real Soon Now, does it work if you boot with something like "sd()mach_kernel maxmem=32768"? Or does the RAM override the video when the driver goes to access things? Later, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <address and phone work now, I am already in Cincinnati. No new email, yet.>
From: cmeng@pop.uky.edu (Meng, Chen-Lu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Toner Cartridge for NeXT Laser Printer Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 02:24:21 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky Message-ID: <325d5c48.19734292@news.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I haven't got any chance to own a NeXT Cube and NeXT laser printer until recently. Can someone kindly telling me what kind of toner cartridge (brand & model) should I purchase for the NeXT laser printer? I went to our local Office Max trying to buy a new cartridge and the clerk there had no idea what a NeXT laser printer is? Any help will be highly appreciated. Thanks. Chen-Lu ================ cmeng@pop.uky.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: Re: RAM for '040 mono slab? Message-ID: <325C97DD.345B@goldengate.net> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 1996 23:29:49 -0700 References: <53gh6v$qmu@news2.texas.net> Organization: transwarp MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Bradford <mrbill@texas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Bradford wrote: > > I'll be getting my first NeXTstation this evening, an '040/25 with > 17" mono monitor, 8mb RAM, and 404mb HD. What I'm wondering: > > I know that NS 3.3 (installed on the system) will *suck* with > 8mb of RAM. Will the NeXT slab system (non-Turbo) take 72-pin, > 70ns 16mb SIMMs? If so, I'll yank the RAM out of my PC and > give it to the NeXT for a while, until I can buy 8 4mb SIMMs > to put in the black hardware and return the 16mb SIMMs to my PC. > > Please respond via email, as if this will work I wanna try it > tonight. > > Bill Bradford > mrbill@texas.net If you're still up (I expect you to be :) ...) check my www site for a link to the NeXT FAQ file on peanuts.leo.org. I think the non-turbo supports only up to 32MB RAM, so you might be a little more limited than you're thinking--but check the FAQ for hard info. I took the 8MB chips out of my Compaq and slapped them in my Turbo Color slab and it worked fine--seems most common chips work fine in the boxes, in any event. Good luck! > (who remembers drooling over the original NeXTcube and still has > a couple of the foot-square "Actual Size" brochure/books that > were sent out...) Got them scanned anywhere? (My www site also has a link to a set of some of the brochures, but it would be interesting to see yours!) Let me know if you put them up somewhere. Later. -- MATT | mailto:invisix@goldengate.net ** living a microsoft ** jurcich | http://www.goldengate.net/~invisix ** free lifestyle ** Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 32MB, 1.5GB, 17" Fimi, NEXTSTEP 3.2
From: "Brent B. Powers Swaps Programmer x2293" <powers@ml.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 3940UW Date: 09 Oct 1996 23:10:36 -0400 Organization: Merrill Lynch Sender: powers@swapsdvlp02 Message-ID: <u02lodfldjn.fsf@ml.com> Has anyone had any luck getting this SCSI controller (an Adaptec 3940UW) to work with NextStep/Mach? Cheers -- Brent B. Powers Merrill Lynch powers@ml.com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Toner Cartridge for NeXT Laser Printer Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:07:44 -0700 Organization: The NeXT FTP site at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961009220550.20192A-100000@kira> References: <325d5c48.19734292@news.concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Meng, Chen-Lu" <cmeng@pop.uky.edu> In-Reply-To: <325d5c48.19734292@news.concentric.net> ------------------------------------------------------------------ toner cartridge for HP Laserjet II, IID,III, IID HP ref : HP 92295A ------------------------------------------------------------------ Canon E-PS Expect to pay about $70 TjL
From: mrothste@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Mont Egan Rothstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: [HELP] Add memory (intel) and screen goes black?! Date: 10 Oct 1996 08:59:27 -0700 Organization: California Polytechnic State University at San Luis Obispo Distribution: inet Message-ID: <53j6gv$r8m@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> References: <jray-0910960824290001@hh264b.ag.ohio-state.edu> <smKw=4200UhBE1ip0a@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <smKw=4200UhBE1ip0a@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 9-Oct-96 [HELP] Add memory >(intel) a.. by John Ray@bigmac.ag.ohio- >> We just went from 32MB to 80MB RAM on our Intel server machine. Rebooting >> OS 4.0 worked fine - it recognized the memory, and all appeared well. Except >> it never brought up the login screen. Everything appeared to be working >> (remotely) - but when I tried (blindly) to login at the console, the machine >> froze, and a pixel high line of garbage graphics appeared. > >Your video card almost certainly has a framebuffer mapped into the >system's memory space-- either at 32MB or 64MB. When you added memory, >it occupied the same space that the video card's framebuffer does, >causing a conflict. > >You should be able to use Configure.app to remap where the framebuffer >is located (although you may have to take out the additional RAM >temporarily). > >-Chuck Let me guess, you have a diamond stealth PCI video card? The exact problem is that the driver for this card by default maps the VRAM to start at 60MB. Start your machine with config=Default as the boot paramater. This will bring you up in 640x480 mode. Then in Configure.app on the Display Devices page change the Mapped Memory to 0x7C000000, this will put your VRAM at the outter limits of your addressable memory space where it should be. I hope you didn't go through as much pain with this as I did. -Mont
From: kruger@cptca.neep.wisc.edu (Scott Kruger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: TrackBall for NeXTStation Date: 10 Oct 1996 15:55:37 GMT Organization: The unconfigured xvnews people Message-ID: <53j69p$1vg4@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <Dyv6BE.897@novice.uwaterloo.ca> > > If you get a PC *BUS* mouse (not PS/2, not serial) you can buy an adapter >from computerActive (URL available on Stepwise) for about $8 that will let you >plug it in. Works well. > Couldn't find the link to computerActive. Anyone know where it is? Scott -- ******************************************************************** * Scott Kruger Engineering Research Bldg * * Center for Plasma 1500 Engineering Drive * * Theory and Computation Madison, WI 53706 * * http:/www.cptc.wisc.edu/~kruger/ Phone: (608) 263-0812 * * kruger@cptc.wisc.edu Fax: (608) 262-6707 * ********************************************************************
From: rakesh@arp.com (Rakesh Dubey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EIDE versus SCSI CD-ROM drives Date: 10 Oct 1996 10:40:34 -0700 Organization: GRANITE Systems, Inc. Sender: rakesh@fountainhead.granite.com Message-ID: <wusp7mg1kd.fsf@fountainhead.granite.com> References: <veewwwykf5t.fsf@shell.one.net> In-reply-to: shess@shell.one.net's message of 10 Oct 1996 11:33:18 -0400 In article <veewwwykf5t.fsf@shell.one.net> shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > [..deleted..] > > Anyhow, beyond the "have to build a drivers disk" problem for NS > install, will there be any runtime problems with an 8x IDE drive > versus a 4x SCSI drive? Will using IDE cause any conflicts with SCSI > operation, not just at the hardware level, but also in NeXTSTEP? Does > it "just work"? Can NeXTSTEP autodetect and eject IDE CD-ROM disks, > or are we back to the "Check for floppy" level? > > I'm even wondering if I will actually be better off this way, because > I'll have gotten a slow device off of the SCSI bus. I know it > shouldn't matter (because it generally won't be used), but when doing > an install, if the CD-ROM is running at base SCSI speeds, and the hard > disks are doing Fast SCSI-II, then the CD-ROM is getting in the way ... You should be able to use both SCSI and IDE at the same time and have all the nice things (auto-eject, seamless operation etc.) that you talked about. Here are some things you are likely to have problems with (many of these are not driver problems but Configure/Install limitations). (1) If you intend to install NS from the ATAPI CD-ROM it must be connected to the primary controller (I believe that this is getting fixed now). (2) Unfortunately all ATAPI CD-ROMs do not work, like NEC. (3) The driver does not use bus mastering. This is an Intel standard as implemented in Triton chipset and should become popular. But performance is not bad. (4) If you have both SCSI and IDE in a system (or two SCSI controllers) you must make sure that the controller that has the boot device gets probed first. (5) What else? NeXT has a fine doc on ATAPI issues, you should take a look at that too.. -Rakesh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: SyQuest EZ135 -> EzFlyer upgrade -- UPDATE info available: 10/21/96 Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961010141049.779A-100000@charisma> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:24:04 -0400 Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Spoke with SyQuest _again_ today, asking _again_ when they will be releasing information about the EZ135-EZFlyer 230 upgrade. I was surprised when the woman said "I just received a memo on that yesterday " *sounds of papers shuffling, don't they use email? Maybe she printed it out* "The information will be made available on the Web on 10/21/96 on SyQuest's Homepage" http://www.syquest.com She had no more information available at this time. I will, of course, post whatever information I find there at that time, including any necessary rants over the way they are handling it. Stay tuned TjL
From: rickerby@unixg.ubc.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: NeXTBUS (NUBUS) Pinouts! Date: 10 Oct 1996 22:19:38 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Distribution: world Message-ID: <53jspq$han@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Keywords: help nextbus nubus Hi there, I'm trying to turn my old '030 board into a standalone unix box, sans cube. Does anyone know the pinouts on the 96-pin DIN NeXTBUS (NUBUS) connector, inorder to power the '030 board? Thanks in advance, Jason Rickerby rickerby@unixg.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: Which scanner to buy? Message-ID: <325D79D9.7443@goldengate.net> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 17:34:01 -0500 Organization: Invisix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, I'm looking to connect a flat bed scanner to my turbo color slab. Going to the local computer superstore brings up HP (with the 4c and 4p) and Mustek (with 600-series scanners). Ok fine, the price is alright and the scanners themselves look good. The problem is, will one of these work on next black? I found some programs on Peak (ScanMaker.app and Scan-o-Matic) but they don't mention anything about those particular scanners (well Scan-o-Matic does, but mostly the II series). Will these scanners be compatible with older ones? Is there some scanner standard that all scanners can be generally talked to the same way, so most drivers will drive most scanners? That is probably not the case, but in any event, I'd like to hear from some people that have connected more current model scanners to their computers, which models, what software they are using, and what the problems and things to watch out for are. Thanks alot! I appreciate it, as I've worked with scanners on PC's before, but not on a NeXT... Later. -- matt | ... NeXT ... silicon graphics ... NEC ... jurcich| ... http://www.goldengate.net/~invisix ... -------' SGI Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 32MB, 250MB, 17", NeXTSTEP 3.2
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Battery For NeXT--Where?? (FAQ has problems) Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DyzHDL.LAL@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:58:33 GMT References: <53c20a$l74@uuneo.neosoft.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <53c20a$l74@uuneo.neosoft.com>, Robert B. Love <rlove@neosoft.com> wrote: > >Anybody have a source for a single 3V replacement battery for NeXT? >Failing that anybody want to do a group order? > I gather that the keepers of battery designations changed the names around a little while ago, so the model number on your battery may not be too useful. Apparently you can take the battery to a goodish camera store and they should be able to dig up a replacement. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which scanner to buy? Date: 11 Oct 1996 01:06:37 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <53k6it$ja9@news.istar.ca> References: <325D79D9.7443@goldengate.net> In-Reply-To: <325D79D9.7443@goldengate.net> On 10/10/96, Matt Jurcich wrote: >The problem is, will one of these work on next black? I found some >programs on Peak (ScanMaker.app and Scan-o-Matic) but they don't >mention anything about those particular scanners (well Scan-o-Matic >does, but mostly the II series). I was looking around for scanners a couple of months ago and so had some of the same concerns as you. (I decided not to buy one 'cause I couldn't really afford it.) I'm know Scan-o-Matic can handle the HP 4c, but I don't know about the 4p. Here's a list of compatible scanners that Scan-o-Matic supports: HP ScanJet: II, IIc, IIcx, IIp, 3p, 3c, 4c Umax: UG80, UC300, UC630, UC840, UC1200S, UC1260 VISTA S6, VISTA S8, PS2400, VISTA T630, Powerlook HSD: color, mono AGFA: Arcus II XRS: RSU-1, x-ray scanner OcÝ: G6000 and G6000-S series EPSON: GT-6000, GT-9000 (veryfied) 300, 600, 800, 1000, 4000, 6500, 8000 (compatible) And any scanner with a compatible mode to one of the above named. -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -=- jsamson@istar.ca -=- NeXTmail & MIME welcome -===================================================================-
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: EIDE versus SCSI CD-ROM drives Date: 10 Oct 1996 11:33:18 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <veewwwykf5t.fsf@shell.one.net> I'm a system-ordering fool, today, and just got stuck on one piece, the CD-ROM drive. I've decided that I'm somewhat sick of my 1x Sony drive (AKA NeXT drive), and really need a 4x or better. I immediately noticed that 8x SCSI drives are obscene, something like $300 apiece! And for less than the price of a 4x SCSI drive, I could get an 8x IDE drive. Sigh. Anyhow, beyond the "have to build a drivers disk" problem for NS install, will there be any runtime problems with an 8x IDE drive versus a 4x SCSI drive? Will using IDE cause any conflicts with SCSI operation, not just at the hardware level, but also in NeXTSTEP? Does it "just work"? Can NeXTSTEP autodetect and eject IDE CD-ROM disks, or are we back to the "Check for floppy" level? I'm even wondering if I will actually be better off this way, because I'll have gotten a slow device off of the SCSI bus. I know it shouldn't matter (because it generally won't be used), but when doing an install, if the CD-ROM is running at base SCSI speeds, and the hard disks are doing Fast SCSI-II, then the CD-ROM is getting in the way ... Thanks, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <address and phone work now, I am already in Cincinnati. No new email, yet.>
From: scollarw@cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: TrackBall for NeXTStation Date: 11 Oct 1996 02:20:59 GMT Organization: CADVision Development Corp. Message-ID: <53kaub$2k24@elmo.cadvision.com> On 10/10/96, Scott Kruger composed a News article about Re: TrackBall for NeXTStation: ~> ~> If you get a PC *BUS* mouse (not PS/2, not serial) you can buy an adapter ~>from computerActive (URL available on Stepwise) for about $8 that will let you ~>plug it in. Works well. ~> ~ ~Couldn't find the link to computerActive. Anyone know where it is? ~ ~Scott would you believe.... http://www.computeractive.com/ -- Bill Scollard - Scollard Holdings Ltd. Computer Systems : Cradle-to-Grave Calgary, Alberta, Canada
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Strange Monitor Problem Date: 11 Oct 1996 02:33:04 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <53kbl0$cdn@cocoa.brown.edu> My monitor is bright however, I have horizontal white lines across the screen. I can only see them with a screen saver running or with a dark back ground. Does any one know about this problem? Thanks, Andrew NeXTstation Turbo Mono ADB running NeXTstep 3.3
From: sfoy@zoology.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick Foy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Keyboard Problem. Date: 11 Oct 1996 02:47:13 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <53kcfh$k1v@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <530tal$iip@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <DyuvEB.3AF@nidat.sub.org> On Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:13:23 GMT Peter Nitezki (Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org) wrote: >In article <530tal$iip@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> sfoy@zoology.ubc.ca (Shaun Patrick >Foy) writes: >> I have a NextStation TurboColour. The keyboard is very slow >> to respond - I have to hold each key down for at least 1/2 sec. >> I have tried another keyboard but without success. Anyone have >> any ideas as to what the source of this problem may be?? >Have you checked the Keyboard Preferences? Yep. Shaun. ___________________________________________________________________ \ o / o __| \ / |__ o \ o / | -/\ ___\o \ o | o / o/___ /\- | / \ | \ /) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / | / \
From: kkwan@cs.hku.hk (Kelvin Kwan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which scanner to buy? Date: 11 Oct 1996 05:54:31 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, The University of Hong Kong Message-ID: <53knen$e2h@hkusuc.hku.hk> References: <325D79D9.7443@goldengate.net> <53k6it$ja9@news.istar.ca> Jean-Paul C. Samson (jsamson@istar.ca) wrote: : I was looking around for scanners a couple of months ago and so had : some of the same concerns as you. (I decided not to buy one 'cause I : couldn't really afford it.) I'm know Scan-o-Matic can handle the HP : 4c, but I don't know about the 4p. Here's a list of compatible : scanners that Scan-o-Matic supports: ScanOmatic does support the HP ScanJet 4p. I'm using one happily at home, while in school I use their 4c with the same software. The 4p is almost identical to the 4c, only a bit slower and it can't do 600dpi optically. -Kelvin
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EIDE versus SCSI CD-ROM drives Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:46:04 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.961011094129.23844A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <veewwwykf5t.fsf@shell.one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <veewwwykf5t.fsf@shell.one.net> On 10 Oct 1996, Scott Hess wrote: > Sigh. > > Anyhow, beyond the "have to build a drivers disk" problem for NS > install, will there be any runtime problems with an 8x IDE drive > versus a 4x SCSI drive? Will using IDE cause any conflicts with SCSI > operation, not just at the hardware level, but also in NeXTSTEP? Does No problems on SCSI vs. IDE. However you should consider this: Most SCSI devices of today support synchronous transfer and therefore could work somewhatin parallel. Each IDE transfer in contrast blocks all other transfers in progress. So if you're doing a lot of CD-ROM access your hard disk may be slowed down during this time. On the other hand there is no benefit from 8x CD-ROM drives to 4x CD-ROM drives under NEXTSTEP on installation or with NEXTSTEP file system mastered disks or other filesystems which require much seek (which is nearly every filesystem beside (V)FAT). Seek times didn't improve like the rotational speed, and in general my 4x cheap Toshiba SCSI CD-ROM is faster than my friends 8x IDE ATAPI drive, only because it seeks 1.5 times faster. Greetings, Bernhard.
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: A tale of two PPro motherboards (Tyan ATX Pro vs. Intel Venus) Date: 11 Oct 1996 08:45:25 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <53l1f5$874@nntp1.best.com> Here's an interesting (?) story and some benchmarks for anyone considering upgrading to a Pentium Pro system. First for the story: Recently I decided to give in to that urge to splurge and upgrade to a Pentium Pro 200 mhz to run OpenStep 4.x mach on. My first attempt was to purchase a Tyan Titan Pro ATX Dual CPU motherboard with a single PPro 200 mhz CPU. I knew that I couldn't use a 2nd CPU under OpenStep/Mach but I figured it would give me some options for the future plus the board had some other nice features I liked such as 8 SIMM sockets. The sales-people assured me that the board would work fine with only a single PPro CPU. Upon installing the board I had nothing but trouble though - I would consistently get kernel panics when using PPP and was experiencing persistent graphics glitches. I spent about a week fooling with software configuration, BIO configuration and almost every other variable I could think of without success. At wits end, in desparation, I returned the Tyan board and exchanged it for (a less expensive) Intel Venus ATX PPro (single processor) motherboard. Magically - all my system flakiness disappeared. Now, I don't know exactly what the problem was with the Tyan board - maybe it was just a defective board, maybe it had a design problem, maybe it didn't like running with only one CPU or maybe it just didn't like OpenStep. Your mileage may vary. For those people considering a PPro upgrade I would think twice about the Tyan Dual PPro ATX board and would not hesitate to recommend the Intel Venus ATX board though. Now for some NXBench 2.0 figures from the various configurations I tested during this odyssey: My old system - ASUS P55TP4XE motherboard, 100 mhz Pentium Processor, 256K pipeline burst cache, 96 MB RAM, #9 GXE 64 (S3-968) 4MB VRAM gfx card, OpenStep for Mach: 1280 x 1024 x 16 - NXFactor 1.6 The new system (first incarnation) - Tyan Titan Pro Dual Processor ATX motherboard, Pentium Pro 200 MHZ 256K cache, 64 MB RAM, #9 GXE 64 (S3-968), OpenStep for Mach: 1280 x 1024 x 16 default configuration - NXFactor 1.6 w/PCI Write Posting enabled using BIOS - NXFactor 2.6 w/PCI Write Posting and Omni Pentium Pro Driver - NXFactor 4.5 The new system (second incarnation) - Intel Venus ATX motherboard, Pentium Pro 200 MHZ 256K cache, 128 MB RAM, #9 GXE 64 (S3-968), OpenStep for Mach: 1280 x 1024 x 16 w/PCI Write Posting enabled - NXFactor 2.9 w/PCI Write Posting and Omni Pentium Pro Driver - NXFactor 4.9 1152 x 864 x 32 bit color w/PCI Write Posting and Omni Pentium Pro Driver - NXFactor 3.5 1280 x 1024 x 8 bit greyscale w/PCI Write Posting and Omni Pentium Pro Driver - NXFactor 9.5 Some interesting observations - The PPRo system in it's default configuration got NXBench results NO faster than the Pentium system (probably due to lousy PCI bus performance on PPro systems without Write Posting and Write Combining enabled). Turning on Write Posting resulted in a greater than 60% performance increase! (In most boards using the Natoma chipset this option is on by default and on the Venus board it was not even a BIOS option to disable it.) The Omni Pentium Pro driver (which enables PCI Write Combining) made a significant performance difference. You could see the NXBench benchmark running faster and feel the difference when dragging windows around the screen. Conclusions? Well there are lies, damn lies and benchmarks but this set of tests demonstrates very clearly that bus and memory performance can have a much bigger impact on OpenStep/NeXTSTEP graphics performance than either the processor or the graphics card. Anyways, I'm still in shock over how slick and smooth the new system feels and I thought I'd share my good and bad experiences with anyone else considering an upgrade. - Chris --
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Pentium Pro / OpenStep panics (perhaps PPP related) - solution! Date: 11 Oct 1996 09:06:19 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <53l2mb$8h3@nntp1.best.com> References: <53aip5$nnl@nntp1.best.com> <53gos0$lk5@netty.york.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <53gos0$lk5@netty.york.ac.uk> On 10/09/96, -bat. wrote: >cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) writes: > >There are problems with PPP 2.2 which will cause kernel panics under >certain circumstances... but these are all rel;ated to UDP traffic as >far as I recall. TCP should work fine. It turned out not to be a PPP problem after all... I replaced the Tyan Titan Pro Dual ATX motherboard with an Intel Venus ATX PPro motherboard and all the problems magically went away. See my post entitled "A Tale of Two Motherboards..." in comp.sys.next.hardware for full details and some interesting benchmarks. >> moderate to heavy PPP traffic (for instance bringing up any graphics intensive >> page via OmniWeb is almost guaranteed to panic the system.) The exact same >> PPP > >Hmm... now that is more like it... the new OmniWeb (i.e 2.0) crashes a lot >when it uses threads to run lots of things in parallel. As it tries >to download several ikmages in parallel then this may well be your >problem. OmniWeb 2.x may crash under certain circumstances (although the latest versions seem better than the initial 2.x release) but I've NEVER had it panic the system. >-bat. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Subject: Any experiences with an P200 and a GA-586-HX? Message-ID: <Dz3u5r.CC@manki.toppoint.de> Sender: manroe@manki.toppoint.de (Manfred Roehr) Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:25:02 GMT Hello, as subject asks - does this combination work faultless? Manfred
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: TrackBall for NeXTStation Date: 10 Oct 1996 21:04:34 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <53jod2$g9f@news.digifix.com> References: <Dyv6BE.897@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <53j69p$1vg4@news.doit.wisc.edu> In-Reply-To: <53j69p$1vg4@news.doit.wisc.edu> On 10/10/96, Scott Kruger wrote: >> >> If you get a PC *BUS* mouse (not PS/2, not serial) you can buy an adapter >>from computerActive (URL available on Stepwise) for about $8 that will let you >>plug it in. Works well. >> > >Couldn't find the link to computerActive. Anyone know where it is? > Their web is at www.computeractive.ca as I recall. It looks like their entry on the WebObjects version of the Stepwise database is missing though. Alot of company information was out of date on the old Stepwise, so when I converted to WebObjects I started from scratch. Everyone was asked to resubmit current information. If you haven't, you still can BTW.. There are only forms for doing that at http://www2.stepwise.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/CompanyInfo -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q]Testing modem Date: 11 Oct 1996 08:06:52 -0400 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <53ld8s$l8@papoose.quick.com> References: <325A9D68.73F0039A@snet.net> In article <325A9D68.73F0039A@snet.net>, Sven & Jennifer Crouse <svenifer@snet.net> wrote: >/usr/adm/messages reveals that EISA/ISA drivers are loaded and that >ISASerialPort0 is registered w/ correct address and interupt. No >communication package, i.e. minicom, seems to be included with OpenStep >so I have tried tip (tip -v /dev/cu[a|b|fa|fb] & a million other combos) >with messages about unknown Serial devices and lines in use. No lock >files that I can find anywhere. Any suggestions appreciated Make sure you have configured a single instance of the PortServer driver as well as one instance of ISASerialPort for each serial interface. Without the portserver driver the unix level interface to the device (e.g. /dev/tt*) will not work. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished.
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A tale of two PPro motherboards (Tyan ATX Pro vs. Intel Venus) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:03:48 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.961011150204.5431A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <53l1f5$874@nntp1.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <53l1f5$874@nntp1.best.com> On 11 Oct 1996, Christopher Wolf wrote: > First for the story: > > experiencing persistent graphics glitches. I spent about a week fooling with > software configuration, BIO configuration and almost every other variable I could > think of without success. At wits end, in desparation, I returned the Tyan board > and exchanged it for (a less expensive) Intel Venus ATX PPro (single processor) > motherboard. Magically - all my system flakiness disappeared. Now, I don't know > exactly what the problem was with the Tyan board - maybe it was just a defective I just wanted to add, that we too had problems with a dual processor board. Using an Gigabyte ATX dual processor board (100Mhz Pentium) (no PPRO) we weren't able to install NS3.3. Greetings, Bernhard.
From: Dean_Reece@NeXT.com (Dean Reece) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 3940UW Date: 10 Oct 1996 19:39:40 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <53jjds$ckj@news.next.com> References: <u02lodfldjn.fsf@ml.com> This has been reported to work with a few minor gotchas. 1) If you are using NS3.3, you will need to add a few auto-detect IDs to the 2940 driver's Default.table in order for the board to be detected. The IDs you need to add are "0x82789004 0x72789004". 2) The 3940 is logically structured as if it were two 2940s on a private PCI bus, with a PCI<->PCI bridge chip to connect with the primary PCI bus. NEXTSTEP will detect a 3940 as two 2940s iff your machine's PCI BIOS fully configures PCI bus bridges (many don't - try a flash upgrade). Good luck! - Dean "Brent B. Powers Swaps Programmer x2293" <powers@ml.com> writes | | Has anyone had any luck getting this SCSI controller (an Adaptec | 3940UW) to work with NextStep/Mach? | | Cheers | -- | Brent B. Powers Merrill Lynch powers@ml.com
From: Robert F Tobler <rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Best HW for fast compiles Date: 11 Oct 1996 13:41:40 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <53liqk$7ub@news.tuwien.ac.at> TEST: cd /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/Backspace time make install SRCROOT=/tmp/src DSTROOT=/tmp/dst OBJROOT=/tmp/obj SYMROOT=/tmp/sym UPDATED RESULTS: () 1st BEST SYSTEM BOARD/CACHE CPU/CLK RAM CONTROLLER/DISK/OTHER =============================================================================== 6:34 ?:?? Classic Mono (NS3.2) 040/25 20 SG ST1480 (orig. 400 - Internal) 5:10 ?:?? NeXTstation mono 040/25 32 Fujitsu 1G, 95% full 4:15 ?:?? NeXTdimension 040/25 16 CDC SCSI-I ~22ms 4:04 ?:?? NeXTcube 040/25 40 Fujitsu 1G 65% in use 4:00 3:40 NeXTstation (NS3.3) 040/25 32 Fujitsu M2624F-512 500MB 80% full 3:05 ?:?? NeXTstation Turbo 040/33 32 Fujitsu 1G SCSI-II 10ms 2:54 ?:?? HP 712/60 7100LC/60 32 SG ST3600N (slow disk) 2:53 2:41 NeXTstationTurboColor 040/33 32 SG ST31230, Fujitsu M2684S-1024 set to 254 buffers on boot 2:52 2:41 NeXTstation ColorPyro 040/50 32 Fujitsu M2694ES-1024 2:28 ?:?? object.station 41 486/100 ?? Buslogic controller 2:22 ?:?? Nitro BW 040/40 32 SG ST1480 2:04 ?:?? SPARCstation 5/85 64 SG ST31200W 1:57 ?:?? Intel motherboard P5/90 32 (2) 1G IDE Caviar 10ms 64k 1:50 1:37 TyanEISA/VLB, 1M P5o/83 48 A2742AT, SG 31200N, CN 1080S cached 1:50 ?:?? HP 712/80 7100LC/80 64 HP C3325A 1:48 ?:?? SPARCstation 20/51 64 SG ST31200W 1:39 ?:?? Vektron p5/120 16e A2940UW, 4G F/W drive 1:38 ?:?? P54 Dual CPU(1 used) P5/100 32 A2940, SG 1G 1:38 ?:?? Intel Endeavor P5/90 32 A2940, Fujitsu 1g 5400, 70%full 1:37 ?:?? Dell dimension w/PB p5/133 32e Quantum 1G Fireball EIDE 1:34 ?:?? HP 712/80 7100LC/80 64 1G SG ST31230N Rev HP04 1:30 1:18 ASUS w/PB p5/100 32 NCR810 SCSI, Fujitsu 1G 1:18 ?:?? Micronics w/PB P5/133 32e A2940, SG ST31230N 1:13 ?:?? Intel Endeavour P5/120 64e SG ST32550N 1:13 ?:?? Micronics motherbd P5/133 64 A2940UW, 4.3G F/W 7200 512K 1:12 ?:?? ASUS P55TP4XE p5/120 ?? A2940, SG 2G Barracuda 1:12 0:57 ASUS P55TP4XE 256k P5/90 32 PCI DPT 2124 (4MB, no RAID), DEC DSP 5200 13ms, 70ns RAM 1:07 ?:?? ASUS P55TP4XE P5/100 48 NCR, ST12450 F/W 7200 2-head 1:06 1:06 DECpc XL Server 590 P5/90 48 DPT 2124W (4MB), SG ST12550W 2G 1:06 0:52 Tyan Titan III,512k PB P5/133 40 DPT 2024 F, SG ST12550 2G 0:57 0:46 ASUS P55TP4XE 256k P5/133 64e A2940, SG ST32550N 2G F!W [1] 0:55 0:39 ASUS 256kL2, KXchipset P6/200 64 A2940, CN 4G F, 60ns RAM 0:55 0:40 DELL P6/200 32 EIDE 2G 0:52 ?:?? Micronics P5/133 64e A2940(1.21), CN 2G 0:51 ?:?? Intel Endeavour 256KPB P5/133 40 PCI DPT 2024 (no cache or RAID), ST12550 7200 RPM 1MB F!W 0:51 ?:?? TyanTitanII 256K asych P5/120 64 60ns RAM, A2940W, SG ST32550W F/W (w/ internal cache enabled) 0:51 ?:?? Gateway P6/200 32 60ns RAM, A2940, SG 2G 0:48 ?:?? ASUS 256k, KXchipset P6/180 32 A2940, CN 4G 0:43 0:43 ASUS P55TP4N, 256KPB P6/166 64 60ns RAM, A2940, SG 32430 2G, Maxtor 1240S 1G as /tmp 0:38 0:28 ASUS P/I-P6NP5, 256K-P6/200 128 A2940, SG ST32550N 2G F!W [1] =============================================================================== [1] main board, CPU and RAM exchanged, everything else the same CPU: o=overdrive, pb= PB cache RAM: e=edo SCSI: F=fast, W=wide (just for clarification) DRIVE: SG=Seagate, CN=Connor, F/W=fast wide, F!W=fast not wide SCSI: A2940 = Adaptec2940 OTHER: BEST = best time after a number of compiles (each followed by a "make clean") ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: Stein Onsrud <stein@webcom.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Color Turbo, System test failed HELP please !! Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 17:02:52 -0100 Organization: University of Oslo, Norway Message-ID: <325E8BCC.15E2@webcom.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all. I have a SERIOUS problem with my NeXT ColorStation Turbo. When i boot the machine it says. Testing system, then: System test failed. I hope it is the ROM Chip. Has anyone got a clue to what else it can be? Reply to: stein@webcom.no Stein Onsrud Product Manager
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: [HELP] Add memory (intel) and screen goes black?! Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:27:48 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Distribution: inet Message-ID: <53lpad$grd@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <jray-0910960824290001@hh264b.ag.ohio-state.edu> <53h7sm$cvj@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> <vee3ezn9hoa.fsf@shell.one.net> shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) wrote: >Since I'm hoping to have this problem Real Soon Now, does it work if >you boot with something like "sd()mach_kernel maxmem=32768"? Or does >the RAM override the video when the driver goes to access things? No, you'll still have two pieces of hardware (the DRAM and VRAM) sharing the same physical address. This is usually less than reliable... Mike Paquette I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Color Turbo, System test failed HELP please !! Date: 11 Oct 1996 17:40:07 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <53m0pn$pdn@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <325E8BCC.15E2@webcom.no> > I have a SERIOUS problem with my NeXT ColorStation Turbo. > When i boot the machine it says. > Testing system, then: System test failed. > I hope it is the ROM Chip. > > Has anyone got a clue to what else it can be? It might conceivably be nothing more than a loose SIMM. Make sure all the memory is firmly seated, then try again. Meddle not in the affairs of |=============================================== dragons, for you are crunchy | Joshua W Burton 847/677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu and taste good with ketchup. |===============================================
From: Rick Lingenfelter <lingenfw@inv.co.jp> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.psion,comp.lang.misc,comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Check this out...WOW!!!! Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 08:59:06 +0900 Organization: The Mighty Zaurus PDA Forum Message-ID: <325EDF4A.5F82@inv.co.jp> References: <3257F667.D04@mesandor.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Ariga <Askevar@mesandor.net> You Sir have no scruples. I fart in your general direction!
From: jmosher@think.com (Jessica Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: My 040 cube doesn't like its memory, suddenly Date: 11 Oct 1996 21:13:04 -0400 Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation Sender: root@bone.think.com Message-ID: <9610120112.AA10320@gandalf.think.com> My 040 nonturbo cube ran for over a year happily with a bank of 4x8 SIMMs and two banks of the standard-issue 1x8s. Suddenly last spring, it died. Troubleshooting found that it ran fine with just the 1x8 memory (okay, slow, but still, it would pass the system test). I assumed one of the SIMMs went bad. Recently, I purchased another bank of 4x8 SIMMs, installed them, and experienced no problems. After sitting on them for some time, I took the bank of "bad" 4x8 SIMMs down to CompUSA (the best Phoenix can do if you don't have a PeeCee) to have them run through their SIMM tester. I figured I'd find the bad SIMM, purchase a comparable replacement, and be ready to rock and roll with 40 MB of memory. The technician t told me they all tested good, and even weirder, three tested at 55 nanoseconds and one at 60 nanoseconds. They were built in 1991, and as far as I know, have always lived in a NeXTcube. She told me they were incompatible, which clearly makes no sense. Does this ring a bell with any of you? Why doesn't my cube like these SIMMs suddenly? As I've stated, I'm running with another bank of 4x8 SIMMs without problems. Could (gulp) my motherboard be going? I purchased these SIMMs from an extremely reliable source, and did run them for almost two years before these troubles. Please send mail, and thanks in advance! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Thinking Machines Corporation Systems Support Engineer c/o American Express "Tough times don't last...but tough people do." --Unknown ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ jmosher@Think.COM Pager: 1-800-946-4646 pin: 8014486
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Memory - Parity or not to Parity Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dz497J.3J3@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:50:06 GMT References: <01bbb547$b9dca050$e84822c0@pcdon> <53h7vg$cvj@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <53h7vg$cvj@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net>, Mike Paquette <mpaque@next.com> wrote: >"Don Guthrie" <dguthrie@iisys.com> wrote: > >>I have a Black Next Cube (68040 25MHz) machine. I'm adding memory to it >>and need to know if it uses parity or non-parity memory. If non-parity >>memory is used, should parity memory still work? > > >This particular machine doesn't use parity, and the parity line isn't >connected. You can safely mix parity and non-parity memory in it. > That's what I thought. However, I just noticed that my cube (25MHz, ROM monitor v66) notices that four of my SIMMs have parity and I think there's a configuration option to turn it on. I've never tried, though. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory - Parity or not to Parity Date: 10 Oct 1996 19:24:47 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <53jihv$cj5@news.next.com> References: <53hn13$53v@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> In article <53hn13$53v@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: > Didn't NeXT offer a parity memory option for my 1990 030 Cube when I > bought it? I recall hearing that a slight performance penalty was incurred > when parity memory was used, so something must have noticed the parity bit. > But maybe my memory is failing... It's those aluminum frying pans... Parity support was first introduced with the NextStation Color in 1991, and then in all the Turbo products. Parity checking was not supported on the original 68030 or 25 MHz 66040 Cube products. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me.
From: bosuk@soback.kornet.nm.kr (ChaeHo Lim (kornet)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ??Canon ObjectStation 41, sound? ethernet? Scsi? problem Date: 12 Oct 1996 09:11:25 GMT Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <53nnbt$etb@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Recently, I bought Canon Object Station Logic Board. It's really bared. No CPU, No ISA Riser Slot(Actually I do not know what it is.). It has just one Vesa Slot. I've heared that OS41 has the Sound and the Ethernet built on it. I read over the brochure from Canon, and the document about OS41 from Next Computer(Software?). but I could not find out whether the board has sound and ethernet on it or not? If you has OS41, Please tell me on it. Can I use the Sound and the Ethernet with this board? Where is the sound chip, ethernet chip? How I can find them? and there are sound and ethernet on the board, how can I do d the work? Or , is the another board needed? I just have the mother board of OS41, and have nothing another.. and my case is the one from Taiwan, not of Original Canon Object Station.
From: colinj@math.math.unm.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: putting a floppy drive in a cube Date: 12 Oct 1996 15:34:45 GMT Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Distribution: world Message-ID: <53odql$ko6@lynx.unm.edu> I just got a hold of a floppy drive that works great in my cube. At the moment it isn't actually mounted in the cube. I check the FAQ and could find mention of room for a floppy drive but not pointers on how to actually physically mount it in the cube case. I thought that I had seen something about mounting kits at some of the WWW site, sadly those don't seem to be up this morning. If anyone has suggestions as to how I might make the floppy drive a permanent resident of my cube I would love to hear about it. If there is hardware that I need to buy I'm more then happy for the pointers. There's plenty of room in the cube. -- "Now my life is better than an ABBA song" - Muriel, "Muriel's Wedding" Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ NeXTMail, MIMEmail, Textmail, send it all, I'm easy.
From: dd <cipher@nf-vb.mindspring.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ135 SyQuest = Nightmare Date: 12 Oct 1996 17:13:47 GMT Organization: none Distribution: world Message-ID: <53ojkb$fkl@camel1.mindspring.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961010141049.779A-100000@charisma> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My Note to SyQuest : After two weeks I finally got a human being to tell me why my EZ135 cart wouldn't mount - It is defective. Then I stumbled upon this and know the reason why. I feel I must post my SyQuest experience to a few newsgroups now. The disconnected phones I reached, the nightmare of an automated answer system and Amy Reardon's (Head of PR for SyQuest) remarks about it's total inability to do it's job. This inferior product will be returned, I will advise purchasing not to deal with SyQuest. These must the kinds of reasons your stock price has fallen through the floor!! ****************************************** Here is what MacWeek said about EZ135: "SyQuest responded to Iomega's Zip drive with a low-cost storage system of its own. MacWEEK tests found the EZ135 Drive answers most of the performance shortcomings of the Zip but doesn't offer the convenience or software niceties that made the Zip a top-rated product." from the September 4, 1995 issue of MacWeek. ****************************************** Here is an interesting article from Usenet... >From: a074@Lehigh.EDU>Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage >Subject: Re: Syquest EZ uses rejected 270 platters? >Date: 5 Aug 1995 10:44:05 -0400 >Lines: 36 >Message-ID: <40003l$svt@ns4-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> >NNTP-Posting-Host: ns4-1.cc.lehigh.edu In article (fharris-020895220843@dialin33624.slip.nts.uci.edu), fharris@orion.oac.uci.edu (Frank Harris) writes: >In article <3vp09c$d6n@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>, wuji@acf2.nyu.edu (wuji) wrote: > >> Reading a few posts here and there on usenet, I have read that Syquest >> is using rejected 270 platters for their new EZ drive. Is this the >> explanation of the low price for such a high cost component? >> >> 270 divided by 2 = 135 >> >> Syquest 270 divided by 2 = Syquest EZ135 ???? >> >> Can anyone confirm or deny this? I have seen both the EZ and 270 cartridges >> and I don't see any difference. This seems to make sense to me. >> wuji@acf2.nyu.edu > >Just what Syquest needs, an unsubstantiated remour claiming rejected >platters. The story on the EZ 135 is that the 135 uses one side of the >platter whereas the 270 uses both sides. Where have you read the bit about >Syquest using rejected platters? > >>Sorry, but this is not just a rumor. Every quarter when earnings are released, >>many companies have a conference call shortly afterwards at which brokers and >>investors can ask questions of the high management. Syquest has these calls. >>During the conference call several months ago, Syquset's CEO was asked how EZ >>could possibly compete with zip disks price wise, since SQ105 disks were much >>more expensive. His response was that EZ platters would be made from rejected >>platters from other platter drives and hard drives. They would purchase the >>rejct platters from other sources, as they do for many other components common >>to hard drives and Syquest. Frankly, this downgrading of platters and specs >>goes on alot in the industry. most platters in an HD have so "defects" and are >>formatted out. dd
From: iestey@.nbnet.nb.ca (Eno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 on 3.3 <- help me too!! Date: 12 Oct 1996 17:42:08 GMT Organization: NBNet.nb.ca Message-ID: <53ol9g$fbi@agate.nbnet.nb.ca> References: <52dbo9$ps3@news.univ-rennes1.fr> <53cshq$10cs@news.ccit.arizona.edu> In article <53cshq$10cs@news.ccit.arizona.edu>, rick@bucky.opt-sci.Arizona.EDU (Rick Workman) wrote: >In article <52dbo9$ps3@news.univ-rennes1.fr> wendling@next (Fabrice >Wendling) writes: >> Hello ! >> >> Does anybody knows how to install a SB16 on 3.3 ? >> >> I think I adjusted the right parameters (A220, DMA 1 and IRQ 5) since >> this card works well under MS windows with these parameters. >> >> However, when I boot in verbose mode, I get a message saying that no >> SB device is recognized at address 220H. >> >> I also tried with the later drivers (found on www.next.com) without >succes. >> >> My plateform is an Intel P166, NextStep 3.3. >> >> Thanks for your help. > >I am having the same problem with the SoundBlaster32 PnP. I set the >parameters the same as above, and I get the same message on boot, >except that the system hangs just before the login window normally >pops up. I had to edit /usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table >to remove the reference to the SB. I'm also using NS 3.3 on a P6-200. > >thanks, > >Rick Workman >Optical Sciences Center >Tucson, Az Sounds to me like a fault with the drivers... Try contacting the OEM for an update! Ian
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ135 SyQuest = Nightmare Date: 13 Oct 1996 00:52:14 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <53pefu$ret@news.istar.ca> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961010141049.779A-100000@charisma> <53ojkb$fkl@camel1.mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <53ojkb$fkl@camel1.mindspring.com> On 10/12/96, dd wrote: >My Note to SyQuest : >After two weeks I finally got a human being to tell me why >my EZ135 cart wouldn't mount - It is defective. >Then I stumbled upon this and know the reason why. > >This inferior product will be returned, >I will advise purchasing not to deal with SyQuest. I have had no problems with my Syquest or the media. It is inevitable that now and then you'll run into problems with a defective cartridge. Ever had a bad floppy disk? The cartridges do have a three year warranty so there shouldn't be a problem getting an exchange. For NeXT computers, the EZ135 is more convenient than the Zip drives. You just plug it in and it works--no need to worry about drivers or software-based write protection like you do with Zip drives. -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -=- jsamson@istar.ca -=- NeXTmail & MIME welcome -===================================================================-
From: kline@news.CS.Arizona.EDU (Nick Kline) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Keymap wanted for ms keyboard Date: 12 Oct 1996 18:50:12 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona CS Department, Tucson AZ Message-ID: <53phsk$p9h@cheltenham.CS.Arizona.EDU> I'd like to have a keymap file for my MS natural keyboard. I can't really construct a good one with my 3.3 keyboard.app. At the bottom row of the keyboard, the keys are: Ctrl MSSymbol Alt [space] Alt MSSymbol MenuSymbol Ctrl So I'd like to make the ctrls be the ctrls, the MSSymbols be the command keys, and the alt be the alt. I can't seem to figure out what keys the MSSybmol keys and MenuSymbol keys are. It would be cool if you could remap the home, end, pageup, pagedown keys to work in both a terminal window, as well as on any scrolling window. thanks, nick
From: hansen@nntp.best.com (Carl Hansen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: exception #2 and #3 on boot-?? Date: 13 Oct 1996 02:17:13 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <53pjf9$81a@nntp1.best.com> I am helping a friend with his Turbo 24meg slab 2bit screen. almost immediately on bootup the monitor says: Exception #3 or maybe: Exception #2 (0xc) at pc 0x100060e sp 0xc03f600 tried reseating the simms, moving simms around, pushing in ROM chip, swaping monitor and keyboard, mouse. Same results. What is going on? Where can I find out about this stuff? any clues at all would be most appreciated. -- ** hansen@best.com http://www.cocktail.com *** * http://www.berkeleynetcentral.com/DrPseudocryptonym * * Dr Pseudocryptonym's Book Knowledge * ************* a 100% text-only web site *************
From: rencsok@channelu.com (Randy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: putting a floppy drive in a cube Date: 13 Oct 1996 03:21:38 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <53pn82$u8u@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <53odql$ko6@lynx.unm.edu> Cc: colinj@math.math.unm.edu In <53odql$ko6@lynx.unm.edu> Colin Eric Johnson wrote: > I just got a hold of a floppy drive that works great in my cube. At > the moment it isn't actually mounted in the cube. I check the FAQ and > could find mention of room for a floppy drive but not pointers on how > to actually physically mount it in the cube case. I thought that I had > seen something about mounting kits at some of the WWW site, sadly > those don't seem to be up this morning. > > If anyone has suggestions as to how I might make the floppy drive a > permanent resident of my cube I would love to hear about it. If there > is hardware that I need to buy I'm more then happy for the pointers. > There's plenty of room in the cube. Well on cubes that have faceplates for floppies the slot is in the 3rd 'ripple' from the top. In the case one can use any sort of 5 1/4 - 3 1/2 mounting bracket adapters to mount the drive. You might have to be a little creative to get the floppy to actually match where the hole is in the faceplate (if you have one), but it works fine.. A couple of points: If you have a old 030 power supply that only has holes to mount 2 5 1/4 FH devices your going to have to drill holes. If you don't have a hole in the faceplate your either going to have to find a replacement (they are rare BTW), or cut one (It takes time and skill but I've done it). That's about it.. Good luck PS. There is a mounting bracket that is basically a piece of sheet metal bent into a |_____| shape the drive fits like this | HHHH | ------------------ I'm not sure where you'll be able to find those.. Try the various resellers Pixelated, Shannon Edwards, perhaps Sam Goldberger..
From: colinj@math.math.unm.edu (Colin Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: putting a floppy drive in a cube Date: 13 Oct 1996 04:33:31 GMT Organization: Dept. of Math & Stat, University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Distribution: world Message-ID: <53prer$sbg@lynx.unm.edu> References: <53odql$ko6@lynx.unm.edu> <53pn82$u8u@msunews.cl.msu.edu> So the floppy drive that I have is one that was formerly housed in a slab. Since I have the 040 board I don't need seperate power. There is a slot on my cube's faceplate that is the size of another optical drive (I already have one). Is (was) there another faceplate with a floppy sized opening in it? -- "Now my life is better than an ABBA song" - Muriel, "Muriel's Wedding" Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ NeXTMail, MIMEmail, Textmail, send it all, I'm easy.
From: fwilliam@eagle1 (Frank Williams) Subject: ISDN & NeXT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Summary: Keywords: Message-ID: <32608e6e.0@eagle3.eaglenet.com> Date: 13 Oct 96 06:38:38 GMT Hello I was wondering if anyone knows of a converter that would connect a machine running NeXT Step and an ethernet card to an ISDN line. With or without out the other necessary hardware (NT1 etc.) Thanks Frank
From: Scott Francis <franc027@gold.tc.umn.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NS with LILO and 3 SCSI drives Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 19:12:40 -0500 Organization: University of Minnesota Message-ID: <32618578.6AED@gold.tc.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, Recently, I have been tearing my hair out trying to get LILO (Linux Loader) to boot 3 OS's on 3 scsi drives; my 3rd drive sdc contains NeXTSEP. I appear to have most of that working except for one little point and I can't determine if it is a LILO problem or a NeXTSTEP problem. The LILO prompt comes up - not relevant other than LILO appears to be doing what it is supposed to - and I type my label for NS. LILO says, "Loading NS" (A LILO message). I then get NeXTSTEP boot1 3.3.3.8 ( a message from NS), but it goes no futher. Boot2 never seems to get loaded. I suspect there is a problem reading the partition table, but I can't solve this. I can boot from the third drive fine when I disable the other two and reset fstab back to its original configuration. I re-installed boot0 with the disk command: disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rsd0a just to make sure boot0 had not been corrupted. From what I can tell, my SCSI card, an Ultrastor 34F, is fully aware of sdc's presence I am befuddled. Any help would be wildly appreciated. -Scott p.s., LILO boots Win95 :| and Linux just fine on sda and sdb
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: exception #2 and #3 on boot-?? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961013133632.2928B-100000@charisma> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 13:37:58 -0400 References: <53pjf9$81a@nntp1.best.com> To: Carl Hansen <hansen@nntp.best.com> In-Reply-To: <53pjf9$81a@nntp1.best.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was getting these errors too, and I thought it was a motherboard/SIMMs problem. Fortunately (but strangely) they just disappeared when I went to turn it on (to show my wife what was wrong with the computer, of course). It has worked fine so far (about a month) but I'd love to know what it really was!) TjL
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ135 SyQuest = Nightmare Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 10:36:01 -0700 Organization: The NeXT FTP site at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961013103011.17957A-100000@kira> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961010141049.779A-100000@charisma> <53ojkb$fkl@camel1.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: dd <cipher@nf-vb.mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <53ojkb$fkl@camel1.mindspring.com> Speaking only for myself, I have an EZ135 drive which I have been overall quite happy with. It worked immediately with my NeXT machine (not bad since it was made in 1991!) Of course, I don't use any of the free software that comes with it, as it is not suitable for NeXTStep, so I can't comment on that. SyQuest has been slow in responding to email, I will grant you that. However, when I called I have not been on hold for more than a minute. I was having one problem with a disk, but it was fixed using 'reasb' and has not caused me a single problem since. I have 3 of the cartridges that get fairly heavy use and they have stood up fine. I did get a call from SyQuest about replacing the defective cartridge (They have _5_ year warrantee, not 3) that I had sent them email about. Yes that took awhile, but I could have called and gotten faster response had I really wanted to. Just another data point... TjL
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Strange Monitor Problem Date: 14 Oct 1996 02:09:32 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <53s7cs$ilv@cocoa.brown.edu> References: <53kbl0$cdn@cocoa.brown.edu> <53olnq$fbi@agate.nbnet.nb.ca> To: Subject: Re: Strange Monitor Problem - comp.sys.next.hardware #25329 In article <53olnq$fbi@agate.nbnet.nb.ca>, iestey@.nbnet.nb.ca (Eno) writes: |> In article <53kbl0$cdn@cocoa.brown.edu>, |> andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) wrote: |> >My monitor is bright however, I have horizontal white lines |> >across the screen. I can only see them with a screen saver |> >running or with a dark back ground. |> > |> >Does any one know about this problem? |> > |> > Thanks, |> > |> > Andrew |> > |> >NeXTstation Turbo Mono ADB running NeXTstep 3.3 |> > |> There are a few possible problems; |> |> A: the lines that you are "Burned" in to the Phosphor(sp) on your screen. |> (which case your better off buying a new monitor) |> |> b: (rather unlikely) the RGB Guns (litterally at gun that Rasters horizontaly |> across the screen and fires electrons on to the phosphorous on your screen are |> miss firing.) which case buy a new monitor. |> |> C: your screen is Gaused(sp). I older monitors there can be a magnetic effect |> in the CRT that requiers a sort of... electro magintic pulse to un do it... |> any local television repair man should have a de-gausing wand.(sp) |> Eno, Thank you for responding to my post. A: the lines do not stay in the same place. They move rappidly. C: the monitor is only 10 months old. Could a problem with the board cause this? AndrewUnread news in comp.sys.next.hardware 25 articles + 285 old
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Turbo in NewEngland Date: 14 Oct 1996 02:13:02 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <53s7je$ilv@cocoa.brown.edu> I am have problems with my NeXTstation Turbo Mono ADB. I need to know it the lines on my monitor are caused by a problem with the board or with the monitor. I will pay a small fee to anyone who will let me connect my slab to there monitor. Thanks, Andrew
From: ebaca@ICSI.Net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need SIMMs Date: 14 Oct 1996 05:22:58 GMT Organization: Internet Connect Services, Inc. Message-ID: <53sini$odg@monet.ICSI.Net> I have a NeXT Cube ('040) and would like to add 16 MB more to my existing 16 MB of RAM. I think what I need is: Four SIMMs 4 MB each 30-pin low profile non-parity 100 nsec My questions are: (1) Can someone recommend a place to buy these? I've been having problems finding them? (2) How much would they be? (3) How strict are these specs? Can I, for example, use parity or 60 nsec SIMMs? Thanks for any help you may be able to provide. Please answer by EMail because I don't regularly check this group. Ernie -- ____________________________________________________________ Visit me at: http://www.icmall.com/bac_ground/index.html Last Updated: 12 Oct. '96 - Latest Race, Newsletter & Resume ____________________________________________________________ Ernesto Baca, P.E. Environmental Consultant BAC-GROUND Houston, TX, USA ebaca@ICSI.Net (713) 664-8452 (w) ____________________________________________________________
From: scott@bcog.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! Config ATI CT Mach 64 successes or failures?? Date: 12 Oct 1996 22:58:28 GMT Organization: British Columbia Openstep Group Message-ID: <53p7qk$rif@news.bctel.net> References: <53edrc$11qe@magma.Mines.EDU> glee@physics.Mines.EDU (Ginny Lee) wrote: > Howdy, > > Has anyone had success or utter failure configuring an > ATI CT Mach 64 video board with any version of NeXTStep?? > > I'm having some problems configuring NeXTStep 3.3 > with an ATI CT Mach 64 video card (PCI with 2MB DRAM) > ....it came in a Gateway 2000 Pentium/133 system that was > NOT bought with NeXTStep in mind (gotten for a DOS > network that the dept later decided not to setup)...I'm not > sure that this board can be used! > > Does anyone know anything about the "CT"? > > From the info on NeXTAnswers it *seems* that the ATI > Ultra Pro Mach 64 driver *might* be compatable... "CT" > might be Gateway's name?? (no mention of ATI "CT" > Mach 64 in NeXTAnswers) > > > With the most current ATI Mach 64 driver (v 3.37) > installed I get the standard incompatibility problem > with I/O addresses: > 0x000052ee-0x00000feef > Deleting these I/O addresses worked on another system > I'd set up that has an ATI Mach 32, but with this set > up I get a couple of new error messages: > > -FB addr decodes as 0xfff00000, overriding configured > addr 0x7e00000 > -Display0: unknown DAC on ATI board -- ID: 7 > > and the boot is hung and installation is hosed. > > > Does anyone know what these messages mean? Do > they mean that this board is not supported by the ATI > Mach 64 driver? Or does anyone know of a work-around? > > Any help or suggestions would be appreciated... > (please cc me) > > Thanks...Ginny > > >-- >o----------------------------------------o > Ginny Lee / glee@physics.mines.edu > Physics Dept System Admistrator > Colorado School of Mines > Golden, CO 80401 > (303)384-2122 I recently bought an ATI Ultra Pro Mach 64 card with 2meg DRAM and also had problems. Apparently the driver has a serious bug in it, at least under 4.0. Under boot up the ATI card is not recognized and the graphics run under the default 480x600 b/w mode. If the jumper on the card is removed the graphics run in high res. full color, but there is a serious memory/PCI bus conflict which renders the computer unusable.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Can you help me to network a Cube and a PC Message-ID: <1996Oct14.105903.19442@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 96 10:59:03 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA I know I should RTFM, but there is too much there in too many different places. I am not a network expert, so I know I will screw something up, and I am hoping somebody out there can give me a cook-book recipe. In the process, maybe I can learn something about networking. Here is the situation: I want to network a PC, running Windows NT or 95 (Boo! Hiss!), to my NeXT Cube. As I understand it, the Cube (NS3.3) has all the hardware and software I need already. What hardware and software will I need for the PC? What is the preferred cabling approach -- coax or telco? What about cable terminators? My Cube is set up as a one machine network in order to run ElectroWorX character recognition software. It has a terminator plugged into the coax jack. This was set up several years ago with the help of the company. I no longer have any idea of what I did, but it works and I am afraid to screw it up. As I understand it, once I connect the PC to the Cube, ALL I need to do is change some system parameters to recognize the PC so I can access files on both systems and the PC can send stuff to the NeXT printer. Unfortunately, I don't even know where to begin on this, let alone know all the things that need to be changed. When it comes to the PC I am even more in the dark. I have always used Unix and know nothing about DOS or Windows. I have heard Windows 95 is very easy to set up on a network, but again, I don't really know all the things I have to do. Any help at all will be greatly appreciated. Even pointers to the relevant docs (and PC newsgroups, if that is necessary) would be helpful, but a recipe would be best. Thanks, in advance, for any help you can give. Bob -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: edx@cc.usu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which scanner to buy? Message-ID: <1996Oct14.075826.87157@cc.usu.edu> Date: 14 Oct 96 07:58:26 MDT References: <325D79D9.7443@goldengate.net> <53k6it$ja9@news.istar.ca> Organization: Utah State University In article <53k6it$ja9@news.istar.ca>, jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) writes: > I was looking around for scanners a couple of months ago and so had > some of the same concerns as you. (I decided not to buy one 'cause I > couldn't really afford it.) I'm know Scan-o-Matic can handle the HP > 4c, but I don't know about the 4p. Here's a list of compatible > scanners that Scan-o-Matic supports: > > HP ScanJet: II, IIc, IIcx, IIp, 3p, 3c, 4c > Umax: UG80, UC300, UC630, UC840, UC1200S, UC1260 > VISTA S6, VISTA S8, PS2400, VISTA T630, Powerlook > HSD: color, mono > AGFA: Arcus II > XRS: RSU-1, x-ray scanner > OcÝ: G6000 and G6000-S series > EPSON: GT-6000, GT-9000 (veryfied) > 300, 600, 800, 1000, 4000, 6500, 8000 (compatible) > And any scanner with a compatible mode to one of the above named. No. I got an EPSON ES-1000 to use on NeXT black because of a similar recommendation. It does *not* work with Scan-o-Matic or any of the other scanner software I tried. It locks up the SCSI bus hard. Only a reboot will clear it. Someone else posted recently that an ES-1000 not only locked his SCSI bus, but caused his disk to lose files upon fsck'ing after his reboot on his Black hardware. Do *not* get an ES-1000 to run on Black NeXT machines.
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NS with LILO and 3 SCSI drives Date: 14 Oct 1996 11:47:15 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <veeg23hzgxo.fsf@shell.one.net> References: <32618578.6AED@gold.tc.umn.edu> In-reply-to: Scott Francis's message of Sun, 13 Oct 1996 19:12:40 -0500 In article <32618578.6AED@gold.tc.umn.edu>, Scott Francis <franc027@gold.tc.umn.edu> writes: Recently, I have been tearing my hair out trying to get LILO (Linux Loader) to boot 3 OS's on 3 scsi drives; my 3rd drive sdc contains NeXTSEP. I appear to have most of that working except for one little point and I can't determine if it is a LILO problem or a NeXTSTEP problem. I have _no_ idea if this is your exact problem, since I've never used LILO, but I can describe how to get NS booting off a second drive (my system has NS3.3 on main drive, OS4.0 on second drive). First, you'll probably want to install NextStep with the drive in question as the only one in the system. Otherwise you're very likely to screw up the "automagic rebooting to the next phase" stuff. Then, you need to change /etc/fstab from something like: /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 to /dev/sd1a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 This tells the system on this disk where it's root is, for the "faking root mount entries" portion of the boot. Of course, you need to change "sd1a" to the appropriate device. I've used sd1a and sd0b here (sd0b for when I had one disk with different operating systems on each NeXT partition). Lastly, with the other disks in place, you need to boot NeXTSTEP using a boot command like "bsd()mach_kernel rootdev=sd1a". Again, replace sd1a with the appropriate device. Later, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <address and phone work now, I am already in Cincinnati. No new email, yet.>
From: wgaboria@iut-lr.univ-lr.fr (wilfrid Gaboriaud) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: multiple network cards on the same machine Date: 14 Oct 1996 17:59:21 GMT Organization: Universite de La Rochelle Message-ID: <53tv1p$hfj@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> Hello, I Have a PC with NeXT 3.3 and Win95. with 2 network cards : EtherExpres PRO 100 PCI on 2 different phisical network. My client get his IP address on network (-AUTOMATIC- in the hostconfig file) My problem is that NeXTStep want to access to the network through the bad card one times out of four. How can I boot with only the good card under NeXTStep ? (I can't unset the plug and play in the bios setup because my cards are PCI cards) Many thanks for your help. Wilfrid --- /*************************************** * Wilfrid Gaboriaud * Service Informatique * Institut Universitaire de Technologie * La Rochelle * 15 rue de Vaux de Foletier * 17026 La Rochelle cedex * France * Phone. (33) 46 51 39 24 * Fax. (33) 46 51 39 39 * e-mail: wgaboria@iut-lr.univ-lr.fr * NeXTStep and Mime Mail are Welcome ***************************************/
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need SIMMs Date: 14 Oct 1996 16:58:18 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <53trfa$pc9@news.istar.ca> References: <53sini$odg@monet.ICSI.Net> In-Reply-To: <53sini$odg@monet.ICSI.Net> On 10/13/96 in the group comp.sys.next.hardware you wrote: >I have a NeXT Cube ('040) and would like to add 16 MB more to my existing 16 MB of >RAM. I think what I need is: > Four SIMMs > 4 MB each > 30-pin > low profile > non-parity > 100 nsec 60-70 ns, parity SIMMS are still commonly available as this is what older PC's use. These should work in your cube. NeXT's are pretty good about using different speed memory and mixing parity and non-parity memory, just as long as each group of four SIMMS is the same type. Just be sure to install the parity memory in the lower SIMM banks (so that the NeXT will detect the parity memory before the non-parity). I've tried this combination in a NeXTstation and it works, so I assume as similar configuration will also work on the 040 Cube. -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -=- jsamson@istar.ca -=- NeXTmail & MIME welcome -===================================================================-
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which scanner to buy? Date: 14 Oct 1996 17:01:44 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <53trlo$pef@news.istar.ca> References: <325D79D9.7443@goldengate.net> <53k6it$ja9@news.istar.ca> <1996Oct14.075826.87157@cc.usu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1996Oct14.075826.87157@cc.usu.edu> On 10/13/96, edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: >In article <53k6it$ja9@news.istar.ca>, jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) writes: >>Here's a list of compatible scanners that Scan-o-Matic supports: >> EPSON: GT-6000, GT-9000 (veryfied) >> 300, 600, 800, 1000, 4000, 6500, 8000 (compatible) >No. I got an EPSON ES-1000 to use on NeXT black because of a >similar recommendation. It does *not* work with Scan-o-Matic >or any of the other scanner software I tried. Okay, fair enough. I took that list of scanners off Interpersonal Computing's Scan-o-Matic web page. Apparently their list is incorrect. -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -=- jsamson@istar.ca -=- NeXTmail & MIME welcome -===================================================================-
From: anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu (Stephen Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which scanner to buy? Date: 14 Oct 1996 17:06:31 GMT Organization: Yale University Message-ID: <53trun$dmh@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <325D79D9.7443@goldengate.net> <53k6it$ja9@news.istar.ca> <1996Oct14.075826.87157@cc.usu.edu> In-Reply-To: <1996Oct14.075826.87157@cc.usu.edu> On 10/13/96, edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: [....] > I got an EPSON ES-1000 to use on NeXT black because of a >similar recommendation. It does *not* work with Scan-o-Matic >or any of the other scanner software I tried. It locks up >the SCSI bus hard. Only a reboot will clear it. Someone else >posted recently that an ES-1000 not only locked his SCSI bus, >but caused his disk to lose files upon fsck'ing after his >reboot on his Black hardware. > >Do *not* get an ES-1000 to run on Black NeXT machines. > On the other hand, my Epson ES-1200C works fine on my (Pyro, ND) cube. When I bought it, I made the mistake of getting ScanTastic (ported from the Mac world, I think, where it was a pretty good product at the time). ScanTastic(-Epson) never has done a decent job, it doesn't conform to the documentation, etc. Don't get it. But that's probably an empty recommendation, since I doubt you could find it anyway. But when I tried Scan-o-Matic, it worked fine with this scanner and hardware. --Steve Anderson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Subject: Re: NS with LILO and 3 SCSI drives Message-ID: <Dz97KJ.AL@hurka.UUCP> Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka) Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.) References: <32618578.6AED@gold.tc.umn.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 07:02:43 GMT Hi Scott, In article <32618578.6AED@gold.tc.umn.edu> Scott Francis <franc027@gold.tc.umn.edu> writes: > Recently, I have been tearing my hair out trying to get LILO (Linux > Loader) to boot 3 OS's on 3 scsi drives; my 3rd drive sdc contains > NeXTSEP. I appear to have most of that working except for one little > point and I can't determine if it is a LILO problem or a NeXTSTEP > problem. > > The LILO prompt comes up - not relevant other than LILO appears to be > doing what it is supposed to - and I type my label for NS. LILO says, > "Loading NS" (A LILO message). I then get NeXTSTEP boot1 3.3.3.8 ( a > message from NS), but it goes no futher. Boot2 never seems to get > loaded. I suspect there is a problem reading the partition table, but > I can't solve this. I can boot from the third drive fine when I > disable the other two and reset fstab back to its original > configuration. > LILO boots Win95 :| and Linux just fine on sda and sdb I don't have direct experience with LILO, but from what you wrote I guessed that the boo1 loader was not able to determine that it was loaded from the third drive and that it should load boot2 from the third drive too. This could be related to the fact that most BIOSes handle only first two SCSI drives or probably boot1 tries to load boot2 from the first disk in every case. I suggest you to experiment with the order of the drives. Put the NeXTSTEP drive as the second or the first one. Let us see if it helps you. > From what I can tell, my SCSI card, an Ultrastor 34F, is fully aware of > sdc's presence :-) Do you use my Ultrastor 34F driver? Bye, -- Tomas Hurka tom@hukatronic.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
From: root@despina.burgond.remcomp.com (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ISDN & NeXT Date: 14 Oct 1996 18:11:58 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <53tvpe$8i@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <32608e6e.0@eagle3.eaglenet.com> In article <32608e6e.0@eagle3.eaglenet.com> fwilliam@eagle1 (Frank Williams) writes: > Hello > > I was wondering if anyone knows of a converter that would connect a > machine running NeXT Step and an ethernet card to an ISDN line. With > or without out the other necessary hardware (NT1 etc.) > > Thanks > > Frank Yes that's called CISCO 1003 or 1005, It's a router with an Ethernet and a ISDN. There is also the same kind of router at Motorola's and numerous other verndors. __Pascal Bourguignon__
From: Mark.A.Tarbell@jpl.nasa.gov (Mark Tarbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Battery For NeXT--Where?? (FAQ has problems) Date: 14 Oct 1996 19:15:24 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA Message-ID: <53u3gc$gs9@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <53c20a$l74@uuneo.neosoft.com> <DyzHDL.LAL@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <DyzHDL.LAL@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote, in part: > In article <53c20a$l74@uuneo.neosoft.com>, > Robert B. Love <rlove@neosoft.com> wrote: > > > >Anybody have a source for a single 3V replacement battery for NeXT? > > I gather that the keepers of battery designations changed the names > around a little while ago, so the model number on your battery may not > be too useful. The battery type is a CR123A or BR-2/3A. It's a common photo/camera battery, with the following specifications: Type: Lithium Voltage: 3 Amp-hour: 1.3 Diameter: .67" Length: 1.35" The difference between the two types is that the BR-2/3A maintains a fairly constant voltage until it dies, whereas the voltage of the more common (but less desirable) CR123A slopes off linearly with age. Either works well; you may have trouble locating the BR 2/3A though. Mark
From: rene@blanche.HIP.CAM.ORG (Rene Guimont) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DeskJet 600 Date: 13 Oct 1996 20:26:42 GMT Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada Message-ID: <53rja2$8j5@tandem.CAM.ORG> Hello every one, Does someone have a trick for using a Deskjet 600 with a NextStep 3.3 black system?? I don't want to pay to get the Dots package... Too expensive for my bank account :( Thank's in advance, Rene Guimont Reply by email at: ericet@cam.org
From: chris@polaris.scicntr.ortn.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cyrix P166+ with NS Date: 14 Oct 1996 22:34:56 GMT Organization: University of Tennessee Message-ID: <chris-1410961754060001@tchm03a15.rmt.utk.edu> Has anyone run into any problems using this or other Cyrix risc-based processors with NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP ? Please e-mail me and I will post a complete set of responses. Thanks ! CB
From: "Caleb Hess" <hess@cs.indiana.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: NeXTBUS (NUBUS) Pinouts! Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:10:47 -0500 (EST) Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Message-ID: <6470@845331948> References: <53jspq$han@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Keywords: help nextbus nubus In article <53jspq$han@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, <rickerby@unixg.ubc.ca> wrote: >Hi there, > >I'm trying to turn my old '030 board into a standalone unix box, sans >cube. > >Does anyone know the pinouts on the 96-pin DIN NeXTBUS (NUBUS) connector, >inorder to power the '030 board? A1-4 +12V. C1-4 -12V. C5,6,8,10,12,...,22,24,25,27,28 GND C7,9,11,...,23,26 +5V. A31 PON (pull up to +5 with 470 ohms, .5 sec delay after +5 is stable) A32 PUP (asserted by CPU board to power supply) Good luck!
From: jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net (The Rev. James David Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Needed: List of Scanners that work with PowerScan Date: 14 Oct 1996 23:10:53 GMT Organization: JLC-net, Milford NH Message-ID: <53uh9t$4s4@mozart.jlc.net> Hi All, When my Scan-X HSD scanner died (which I understand had a UMAX architecture) I still have a copy of PowerScan on my Hard Drive. Does anyone know what other scanners work with this software? Thanks very much. Peace, James -- The Rev. James David Meacham First Unitarian Congregational Society of Wilton Center, NH e-mail:jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net 603-654-9518 (Church) 603-654-9590(Home) 603-654-2248(fax) Church Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/index.html Personal Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/jameshome.html
From: Fame@success.net (Walter Brooke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Make Money Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 02:15:43 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <3262f3c4.23821803@nntp.ix.netcom.com> >> Hello everyone, >> >> I used to think this was a huge joke until I tried it - the "turn $5 >> into $50,000" idea. But after awhile I started to realize "This >> either works or it's a complete scam - but I intend to find out." >> >> Guess what? It works! In only three weeks, I've received $1827!! I >> don't know anyone who couldn't use a extra $1800 do you? And there is >> certainly lots more to come for me - up to $55,000!!! >> >> What about you? You can do it with only $5 and 5 postage stamps >> (that's only $6.60 in the USA - hardly what I call a risky investment >> when you consider the rewards). Everyone who tries this will make >> much, much more than that, so what have you got to loose? $5.00 plus >> postage? Big Deal! >> >> Hopefully you can see that this really does work and you'll read on. >> >> Follow this simple, perfectly legal 3 step procedure and you can't go >> wrong; >> >> ===================================================== >> First Step - Type or write your name and address on 5 separate pieces >> of paper with the words "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST". Fold a >> $1 bill or money order in each of the pieces of paper, place them in 5 >> envelopes and mail one to each of the following five addresses: >> >> 1- Robert Knowlton >> PO Box 924 >> Concord, NH 03302-0924 >> >> 2- JCL >> 1313 Wake Forest Dr. #125 >> Davis, CA 95616 >> >> 3- RFP >> 9594 1st Ave, NE, #423 >> Seattle, WA 98115 >> >> 4- Bruce Fuller >> 293 Chestnut ST. >> Chillicothe, OH 45601 >> >> 5- Walter Brooke >> 932 Lake Nora South Dr. Apt.C >> Indianapolis, IN 46240 >> USA >> >> Second Step - Now remove the 1st name on the list, move the other 4 >> names up (5 becomes 4, 4 becomes 3 etc.) and put your name and address >> as number 5 on the list. You can do this by re-typing this article or >> simply editing it in a word processor. >> >> Third Step - Now Post your adjusted article to at least 200 Usenet >> news groups (there are over 20,000 of them). >> >> That's it! You are now in the Mail Order Investment Business and you >> will start receiving $1 returns by mail within a week or two. The more >> newsgroups you post to, the bigger your return will be. You may even >> want to rent a P O Box to handle the volume of mail you're likely to >> receive. >> >> If you wish to remain anonymous, you can use a pseudonym such as "The >> Manager" or "The Investor", but make sure your snail mail address is >> correct! >> >> How does this work? >> >> Of every 200 postings I made, I received an average of 5 replies for >> $5. Ok that may not seem like much but read on.... >> >> Each person who sent you $1 also makes - let's say, only 200 >> additional postings WITH YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 4, i.e. 1000 postings. >> >> On average therefore, 50 people will send you $1 with your name at >> number 4. You make $50. >> >> Your 50 new agents make 200 posting each WITH YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 3 or >> 10,000 postings - average return 500 at $1 each is $500. They make 200 >> postings each WITH YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 2 = 100 000 postings = 5 000 >> returns at $1 each = $5 000. >> >> Finally, 5,000 people make 200 postings each WITH YOUR NAME AT NUMBER >> 1 and you get a return of $50,000 before you name drops off the list. >> AND THAT'S IF EVERYONE DOWN THE LINE ONLY MAKES 200 POSTINGS! Total >> income in one cycle = $55,500. >> >> And when you drop off the list - simply start over! >> >> Remember, this only costs Five dollars, 5 postage stamps and some >> online time. So what are you waiting for? >> >> You may be thinking "This has been around a while - What happens if >> the scheme is 'played out" and no one sends me any money"? >> >> Big deal! So you lose $5 - but with hundreds of thousands of new >> people joining the internet every day thats hardly likely to happen. >> >> Remember, follow the instructions and play fair - send those 5 >> one-dollar bills (this process is based on honesty not on cheating on >> the initial investment). Perhaps we'll meet on the beach in Hawaii. >> That is what my $1827 is going towards (I'll have to think about what >> to do with the rest of the $$$$ that is coming my way!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Control: cancel <3262f3c4.23821803@nntp.ix.netcom.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <3262f3c4.23821803@nntp.ix.netcom.com> From: snowhare@xmission.com Sender: Fame@success.net (Walter Brooke) Date: 15 Oct 96 02:47:40 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.3262f3c4.23821803@nntp.ix.netcom.com> Organization: Devilbunnies Spam Cancelling Division Spam Cancellation. Original Subject: Make Money A copy of the original message can be found at <URL:http://www.xmission.com/~snowhare/spam/udp/mmf-action3/845347660.87>
From: bbum@friday.com (Bill Bumgarner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Busted HSD Scanner-- where to fix? Date: 15 Oct 1996 02:55:35 GMT Organization: Friday Software & Consulting Message-ID: <53uuf7$a4u@chinx10.thoughtport.net> Howdy-- I was recently gifted with an HSD Color scanner (with a UMax 630c engines). Unfortunately, it doesn't work. Specifically, it powers on-- and aligns the scanning head (the light works), but simply hangs the scsi bus. I tried using a pass-through terminator; no luck. Anyone have any recommendations? b.bum
From: Amy Clark <amclark@infinet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.music.misc,comp.music.research,rec.music.compose Subject: Digital Ears for the Next Date: 15 Oct 1996 04:50:09 -0700 Organization: InfiNet Sender: russell@best.com Message-ID: <3262D77C.4088@infinet.com> WANTED: DIGITAL EARS. Does anyone have--for sale--Digital Ears for the Next? Information would be appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ135 SyQuest = Nightmare Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DzALCH.1GF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:57:53 GMT References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961010141049.779A-100000@charisma> <53ojkb$fkl@camel1.mindspring.com> <53pefu$ret@news.istar.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <53pefu$ret@news.istar.ca>, Jean-Paul C. Samson <jsamson@istar.ca> wrote: >For NeXT computers, the EZ135 is more convenient than the Zip drives. >You just plug it in and it works--no need to worry about drivers or >software-based write protection like you do with Zip drives. > I had no such problems with my Zip drive, purchased about a month ago. I bought a 10-pack of Zip disks (formatted for PCs) and can just stick one in, get the Workspace disk initialisation panel, and format for NeXTSTEP (haven't tried Mac or DOS). I did install the tools disk on a Mac, making it a Mac disk, and my cube can read that too. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can ISDN Extender do full 128KB? Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:44:43 -0700 Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd. Message-ID: <3262D06B.10A6@mpr.ca> References: <53mgbd$dgr@news.jf.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Scott M. Neal" <sneal@ichips.intel.com> Scott M. Neal wrote: > > If it's possible to make an Extender mimic (as much as > possible) an Ascend Pipeline 25, including the built-in analog phone > jack which utilizes an unused ISDN B-channel for standard telephone > calls, that would make it a very useful product... If not, is > it completely obsolete as an ISDN device, and merely useful as an > automated voice mail messaging system (using the analog jack)? > > Scott Hi Scott I just got one myself. I do not have an ISDN line yet. But since I have one i may be able to answer a few of you question. In the manual (only a few pages) It mentions that the analog jack is only for the ISDN adapters use. If you plug in a normal phone into the analog jack it will not break it, it just won't do anything. As far as I know you can only use the ISDN extender with NS 3.0. The Phone Kit was not included with later releases of the OS. I don't know a lot about programming but from what i understand, something change in 3.1 that rendered the Phone Kit unusable and I guess that NeXT did want to spend the time on redoing the Phone Kit. I posted a question in c.s.n.programmer last week asking if anyone knew what it would take to get it to work.I still haven't gotten any responses. Also from what i have been able to decifer from the General Reference for NS programming there is a command that will decifer touch tones. This would make it great as a voice mail system so that you could navigate through menu's or phone in and check your messages. However this feature is only available if you are using the ISDN connector and not with the analog connector. I did load up NS 3.0 and compiled a sample program called Message Center. It is a really basic program designed to show how simple and powerful the Phone Kit is. It basically is an answering machine. It only allows you to phone in and leave a messages after you here the greeting. You can playback the messages only through the speaker on your NeXT. It also records the date and time of the call. Since I don't have and ISDN line to test it, i don't know what speed it will work at. From what i can find in the phone kit doc's in the programming manuals it might be possible. Although these docs may be talking about ISDN usage in general. If anyone else out there want's to send me there comments and experiences with there own ISDN extender then i will formulate it in to a FAQ. As you said someone did say that they would do one but i haven't seen anything here on the newsgroups about it. So will do it. Scott mewett@planeteer.com
From: bhu@top.cis.syr.edu (Bing Hu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fail to initialize 2.GB seagate hard drive Date: 15 Oct 1996 16:58:11 GMT Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <540fr3$rqo@newstand.syr.edu> Hi! I purchased one 2GB Seagate drive, And when I tried to initialize the drive, it failed. I am running NeXT step 3.2 on black turbo. The disk drive is recognized during boot, and I even be able to name it ( and the name is readable when I move the drive to another machine , try to initialize there). Yet Initialization alaws fails. I set target 3 or 4 which is free. Please help. Thanks Bing Hu System Administrator binghu@math.syr.edu bhu@top.cis.syr.edu
From: "Rob Blessin" <rob@optimal-object.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Thinking About Upgrading your NeXT Hardware / Software? Date: 15 Oct 1996 17:20:05 GMT Organization: Optimal Object, Inc. Message-ID: <01bbbaf8$f44a8200$376df326@void.object-tech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello NeXT Community: If you need to Upgrade your NeXT, Intel or Sparc workstation, Optimal Object, Inc. offers our services: Please Email any questions to: info@optimal-object.com ( Pricing and configuration information): Please indicate if you have an interest in Optimal Object, Inc. taking care of the installation for you or if you are a do it yourself'er! On your Subject line please indicate: Upgrades: i.e. Ram or CD-ROM or Hardrive or Tapebackeup or Modem or The Works Here is the idea: (We would like to Breath life into your old NeXT and we will clean all of the dust that may have gathered in the process!) (From personal experience a lot of those old drives are starting to croak, I lost my 406 in my cube over the weekend!) ************************************** 1) We are offering NeXT, Intel or Sparc workstation compatible Ram Upgrades with a Lifetime Warranty. 2) 1Gb or 2Gb Internal Drive Upgrades for NeXT Workstations (compatible) that won't overheat the motherboard and please note with external drives we offer up to 9 Gb drives for NeXT, Intel or Sparc Stations. Please indicate Drive brand preference if you have one; i.e. Seagate, HP Also Available: External Single , Double, Triple or Home Run Upgrades that would include A Single, Double, Triple or Quadruple or more External Case with Power supply A SCSI cable and Terminator: 3) An External SCSI CD-ROM , 4X or 8X 4) An External Harddrive(s) which would include a 2Gb or 4Gb or 9Gb or combinations 5) An External Zip, Jazz or Tapebackup with Safetynet Personal or Pro NeXT Tapebackup software. 6) Optional External Modems for NeXT workstations : An External 28.8 or 33.3 Supra, US Robotics or Zyxel Fax Modem with NX Fax Software and a NeXT workstation cable 7) If you need an Openstep 4.X for Mach Software Upgrade as well? We currently offer 4.0 User for Mach for $199 and 4.0 Developer for Mach for $1499. In Addition we offer quick turnaround upgrade and installation services on any systems for those who are pressed for time ! ESTM Round trip shipping appx $50 Ground. $100 Air. 8) We also carry UPS APC units to protect against power surges and outages with Power Guardian NeXTSTEP Software. Other recommended products for NeXTSTEP/ Openstep that are available: 9) Jet Pilot Printer Driver Software allows you to print using non-postscript printers. 10) Soft PC 4.1 Windows Emulator allows you to run Dos/Windows 3.11 Apps in NeXTSTEP (Intel Only) 11) Cub X Windows run Xwindows on NeXTSTEP/Openstep run X-Windows, OSF and Motif. 12) Tailor the postscript Editor ! 13) Nebula, Fatted Calf and Font Garden CD-ROMs 14) We also resell products from Lighthouse and Stone Design ! 15) We offer NeXT Software, Inc. entire product line! Interested in more 3rd party product and information about Optimal check out http://www.optimal-object.com/ If you are interested in demoing applications try ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/ pub/next/ Please include the make and model of your computer and try to be as specific as possible and let us know what you are interested in ; We specialize in custom building Pentiums and P6 Pro 200's (100% Openstep Compatible) that work with the above components ; if you are interested in a complete overhaul! We also offer Laptops as well as parts for the NeXT Workstations. We are also interested in how you are currently using NeXTSTEP/ Openstep and what your plans for the future are; please feel free to include any comments that you may have. One Stop NEXTSTEP/Openstep shopping! Appreciate your time today and look forward to doing business with you in the future! Best regards: -- Rob Blessin National Sales Account Manager Optimal Object , Inc. 4685 Peoria St., Suite 221 Denver, CO 80239 PH# 800-452-7608 PH# 303-799-6223 FAX 303-799-1435 Email: rob@optimal-object.com http://www.optimal-object.com/ FEIN 84-128-1797 "NeXTSTEP is the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine
From: "H. Nieuwenhuize" <newhouse@zeelandnet.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 5.25" drive Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 19:52:37 +0200 Organization: ZeelandNet, Kamperland, The Netherlands Message-ID: <3263CF65.556E@zeelandnet.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everybody Could anybody please help me? I've got a Tandy 1000 from 1986 with a 5.25 inch diskdrive and I would like to put this drive into my Pentium. Do you think this is possible? Or would 10 year old stuff not be compatible with new stuff. Thanking you in advance. -- Cybergreetings from, Jan Willem Nieuwenhuize newhouse@zeelandnet.nl World Wide Web: Under construction!! Soon the new, hot versoin will be available! IRC: nick = "mururoa" Don't even think about steeling my nick!!!!!
From: mmccoy@saturn1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Martin McCoy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Monitor cable Date: Tue, 15 Oct 96 18:05:01 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA Message-ID: <540jod$8ju@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> Our group has a NeXT cube with a color monitor that has been packed away for a while. Anyway, when it was unpacked, the monitor cable was missing. The cable was actually a cable and an adapter. The adapter has the thinner red, green, and blue cables coming out of it. Anyone know what these cables/ adapters are called or how to reference them so I can buy the correct replacement? Thanks. Marty Martin McCoy mmccoy@saturn1.hst.nasa.gov CTA INCORPORATED Phone: (301) 286-1464 NASA/GSFC Code 440 Fax: (301) 286-1641 Greenbelt, MD 20771
From: »”ëŸúÌŸŸŸŸŸŸŸŸme@leidecker.gsfc.nasa.gov (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ135 SyQuest = Nightmare Date: 15 Oct 1996 18:21:24 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA Message-ID: <540kn4$8dg@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961010141049.779A-100000@charisma> <53ojkb$fkl@camel1.mindspring.com> <53pefu$ret@news.istar.ca> On 10/12/96, Jean-Paul C. Samson wrote: >On 10/12/96, dd wrote: >>My Note to SyQuest : >>After two weeks I finally got a human being to tell me why >>my EZ135 cart wouldn't mount - It is defective. >>Then I stumbled upon this and know the reason why. >> >>This inferior product will be returned, >>I will advise purchasing not to deal with SyQuest. > I have had no problems with my Syquest or the media. [munch] I tried a scsi SyQuest on my NeXT Cube (NS version 3.3). It worked so well that I immediately bought a second scsi for my office machine, and a parallel port version for my wife's laptop MS-DOS machine. I have found one bad disk out of ten so far, and this was promptly replaced by the shop at which I bought it. This arrangement allows me to read and write NeXT & SUN style UNIX formatted disks on my two Cubes, as well as read and write Mac and MS-DOS formatted disks. Being able to interchange in any order among my two NeXTs has been a great convenience to me. It is faster to transfer dozens of megabytes (the usual amount) using a SyQuest disk than it would be to transfer over the phone lines using my antique 2400 baud modem. Or a tall stack of floppies. I was delighted to find that I was also able to transfer many dozens of megs of files from my wife's MS-DOS machine onto an MS-DOS formatted SyQuest disk, and then read this into my Cube --- the Cube had no difficulty reading the disk, at least with NS ver 3.3. I have not called SyQuest --- there has been no reason to (so far --- knock on wood). I am not bothered at all by the thought that the unused side of any of my SyQuest disks may have bad sectors. I like it that the drives cost $100 each (after the rebate) and come with a usable disk, while extra disks are $20 each and a guaranteed for three years. Henning Leidecker
From: bbum@friday.com (Bill Bumgarner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DeskJet 600 Date: 15 Oct 1996 19:21:05 GMT Organization: Friday Software & Consulting Message-ID: <540o71$18l@chinx10.thoughtport.net> References: <53rja2$8j5@tandem.CAM.ORG> Cc: rene@blanche.HIP.CAM.ORG You are in luck; GhostScript supports most deskjet printers (pretty much all but those that are 100% windows specific-- YUCK!). Fortunately, an excellent quad-fat distribution already exists and is known to work on m68k and i386 hardware-- I have used it with much success. ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/GSPrintFilter-1.1.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/GSPrintFilter-1.1.README b.bum In <53rja2$8j5@tandem.CAM.ORG> Rene Guimont wrote: # # Hello every one, # # Does someone have a trick for using a Deskjet 600 with a NextStep 3.3 # black system?? # # I don't want to pay to get the Dots package... Too expensive for my bank # account :( # # Thank's in advance, # # Rene Guimont # Reply by email at: # ericet@cam.org #
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Many bad blocks on SyQuest 256MB drive Message-ID: <DzBynE.AHu@euler.han.de> Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <u7ran8zhc0.fsf@mch2ws1.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:42:50 GMT Alois Steindl <asteindl@mch2ws1.tuwien.ac.at> writes > Hello, > 2 years ago I bought a SyQuest (3270?) drive. I use it for small > backups and temporary scratch space. > It ran without any problem more than a year. Suddenly I got some bad > blocks. So I decided to get a new medium. But with this medium it is > even worse. > I already did several > disk -F and disk -i, > after which it runs fine for a while, but then the bad blocks appear > again. (I didn't check it precisely, but it seems to me, that their > block numbers are the same) > I also have the impression, that these problems occur if 2 processes > write to the drive simultaneously. > > Has anyone else similar experieces with this drive? I am hesitating to > get a third medium. > > Thanks for any answers Contact SyQuest. It is an error in early firmware of the drive. SyQuest has promised to swap drives at no additional cost (in Germany). I have had no need to do that yet, fortunately. Juergen --- Fon +49 511 92455-51 NeXTMail welcome No Mime Fax +49 511 92455-52 = What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, = when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, = when a politician's idea of social change is changing names = when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
From: mrbill@texas.net (Bill Bradford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: Long monitor cable Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:25:43 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <540vgn$st3@news2.texas.net> I'm looking for a monitor cable longer than the 12" or so that came with my NeXTstation... the 400mb HD in the NeXTstation is *way* too loud, and I'd like to put the slab in a stack of CPUs off to the side of my desk.... Anyways, I *think* its the HD that's making the noise. I havent bothered to take the cover off yet... bill bradford mrbill@texas.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: Can ISDN Extender do full 128KB? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961015174923.1193A-100000@charisma> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:55:07 -0400 References: <53mgbd$dgr@news.jf.intel.com> <3262D06B.10A6@mpr.ca> To: Scott Mewett <mewett@mpr.ca> cc: "Scott M. Neal" <sneal@ichips.intel.com> In-Reply-To: <3262D06B.10A6@mpr.ca> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Scott Mewett wrote: > As far as I know you can only use the ISDN extender with NS 3.0. The > Phone Kit was not included with later releases of the OS. I don't know a > lot about programming but from what i understand, something change in > 3.1 that rendered the Phone Kit unusable and I guess that NeXT did want > to spend the time on redoing the Phone Kit. I posted a question in > c.s.n.programmer last week asking if anyone knew what it would take to > get it to work.I still haven't gotten any responses. Someone who was really interested might see if it was as simple as the shlib change on 3.0 to 3.[123]. They might go into the phone kit and change /usr/shlib/whatever to /usr/shlib/samechar and take the shlib from 3.0 and put it at /usr/shlib/samechar. NOTE: the path "/usr/shlib/whatever" and "/usr/shlib/samechar" would have to be exactly the same number of characters! This might not be legal, and I certainly wouldn't suggest it if it is... just observing that someone might try that if they were interested. TjL
From: next-expert@my-cube.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Thinking About Upgrading your NeXT Hardware / Software? Date: 15 Oct 1996 22:25:58 GMT Organization: Why must you SPAM ??? Message-ID: <54131m$fto@tkhut.sojourn.com> References: <01bbbaf8$f44a8200$376df326@void.object-tech.com> In <01bbbaf8$f44a8200$376df326@void.object-tech.com> "Rob Blessin" wrote: > Hello NeXT Community: > > If you need to Upgrade your NeXT, Intel or Sparc workstation, Optimal > Object, Inc. offers our services: **SPAM deleted**** why must you SPAM the groups? Anyone, even me, can do all that ourselves, for LESS !!!!!! spammers go away...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ135 SyQuest = Nightmare Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961015181402.1193C-100000@charisma> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:17:22 -0400 References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961010141049.779A-100000@charisma> <53ojkb$fkl@camel1.mindspring.com> <53pefu$ret@news.istar.ca> <DzALCH.1GF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> To: David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <DzALCH.1GF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There have been numerous reports on the NeXT newsgroups about people who have been unable to use the disk which comes with the Zip drive which was software-write-protected, and of course the software only worked on DOS/MAC (which seems dumb beyond belief, but what do I know...) Anyway, any other disks you buy, such as these 10 packs, don't have the software-write-protect turned on (gotta love consistency, at least in this case it works out to be better for us). TjL On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, David Evans wrote: > In article <53pefu$ret@news.istar.ca>, > Jean-Paul C. Samson <jsamson@istar.ca> wrote: > >For NeXT computers, the EZ135 is more convenient than the Zip drives. > >You just plug it in and it works--no need to worry about drivers or > >software-based write protection like you do with Zip drives. > > > > I had no such problems with my Zip drive, purchased about a month ago. I > bought a 10-pack of Zip disks (formatted for PCs) and can just stick one in, > get the Workspace disk initialisation panel, and format for NeXTSTEP (haven't > tried Mac or DOS). I did install the tools disk on a Mac, making it a Mac > disk, and my cube can read that too. > > -- > David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca > Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ > University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer > Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual > > >
From: Ed Pearson <macxpirt@wam.umd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can I use next hardware in any way for my MAC Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:00:34 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961015175908.3679A-100000@rac2.wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just wondering if anyone has tried to make it work... thanks for the replies -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ed Pearson (301) 277-9450 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: WTB: Long monitor cable Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961015181904.1193E-100000@charisma> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:19:32 -0400 References: <540vgn$st3@news2.texas.net> To: Bill Bradford <mrbill@texas.net> In-Reply-To: <540vgn$st3@news2.texas.net> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It might be the fan inside the HD that's making the noise, from what others have said. TjL On 15 Oct 1996, Bill Bradford wrote: > Date: 15 Oct 1996 21:25:43 GMT > From: Bill Bradford <mrbill@texas.net> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > Subject: WTB: Long monitor cable > > I'm looking for a monitor cable longer than the 12" or so that came with > my NeXTstation... the 400mb HD in the NeXTstation is *way* too loud, and > I'd like to put the slab in a stack of CPUs off to the side of my desk.... > > Anyways, I *think* its the HD that's making the noise. I havent > bothered to take the cover off yet... > > bill bradford > mrbill@texas.net > > >
From: scollarw@cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: iglasses Date: 16 Oct 1996 00:43:55 GMT Organization: CADVision Development Corp. Message-ID: <541b4b$2eqs@elmo.cadvision.com> Has anyone been successful in attaching these to a black turbo colour machine? I participated in a demo at Comdex 2 years ago. They were awesome. (Huge) stumbling block...requires NTSC video signal output from your monitor. they are at : http://www.vio.com I am *NOT* qualified to tinker with my display. As usual I simply want to spend the dollars & enjoy the peripheral. -- Bill Scollard - Scollard Holdings Ltd. Computer Systems : Cradle-to-Grave Calgary, Alberta, Canada
From: jburne@sprynet.com (John Burnette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Thinking About Upgrading your NeXT Hardware / Software? Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 22:50:27 -0800 Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <jburne-1510962250270001@ad52-003.compuserve.com> References: <01bbbaf8$f44a8200$376df326@void.object-tech.com> <54131m$fto@tkhut.sojourn.com> In article <54131m$fto@tkhut.sojourn.com>, next-expert@my-cube.com wrote: > In <01bbbaf8$f44a8200$376df326@void.object-tech.com> "Rob Blessin" wrote: > > Hello NeXT Community: > > > > If you need to Upgrade your NeXT, Intel or Sparc workstation, Optimal > > Object, Inc. offers our services: > > **SPAM deleted**** > > why must you SPAM the groups? > > Anyone, even me, can do all that ourselves, for LESS !!!!!! > > spammers go away... Optimal is a quality provider of NeXT systems and parts of long standing. If you want a good challenge, try finding a hard drive bracket for a next station without going through a parts house like optimal. Feel free to correct my net knowledge but I've always reserved the term "SPAM" as someone who posts to a multitude of (usually unrelated) newsgroup or someone who posts the exact same message on a daily basis. Optimal has done neither. Speaking as a very satisfied customer (who learned of Optimal off this newsgroup) I invite Optimal to continue posting any time they feel it is appropriate. God knows the NeXT community can use any loyal supplier we can get. And Robbie: Optimal sold me 4 meg simms for my nextstation for $25 each, with full warranty. Next fan? Sure, it's in stock. Like new laser printer? $200. Maybe I'm just a newbie without spare parts in my sock drawer, but they sure struck me as very competent *and* reasonable.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: Re: Monitor cable Message-ID: <32647AE8.148E@goldengate.net> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:04:24 -0700 References: <540jod$8ju@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> Organization: transwarp MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin McCoy <mmccoy@saturn1.gsfc.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Martin, Sounds like you might have a regular NeXT 13W3-type cable (possibly a Y cable) and a 13W3 to BNC adapter (the Red, Green, and Blue plugs). Give Deep Space Technologies a look-see at http://www.deepspacetech.com and they should be able to fix you up. I ordered a BNC adapter from them two days ago, and he had a few more of them. And if I'm wrong, they should be able to tell you what you need/have. (I have a turbo color station, I assume they are similar) Hope that helps! Later. Martin McCoy wrote: > > Our group has a NeXT cube with a color monitor that has been packed away > for a while. Anyway, when it was unpacked, the monitor cable was missing. > The cable was actually a cable and an adapter. The adapter has the thinner > red, green, and blue cables coming out of it. Anyone know what these cables/ > adapters are called or how to reference them so I can buy the correct > replacement? Thanks. > > Marty > > Martin McCoy mmccoy@saturn1.hst.nasa.gov > CTA INCORPORATED Phone: (301) 286-1464 > NASA/GSFC Code 440 Fax: (301) 286-1641 > Greenbelt, MD 20771 -- MATT | mailto:invisix@goldengate.net ** living a microsoft ** jurcich | http://www.goldengate.net/~invisix ** free lifestyle ** Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 32MB, 1.5GB, 17" Fimi, NEXTSTEP 3.2
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ135 SyQuest = Nightmare Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 20:50:06 -0700 Organization: Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961015204618.21155A-100000@kira> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961010141049.779A-100000@charisma> <53ojkb$fkl@camel1.mindspring.com> <53pefu$ret@news.istar.ca> <540kn4$8dg@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: me@leidecker.gsfc.nasa.gov cc: sales@syquest.com In-Reply-To: <540kn4$8dg@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> [Note to Henning: There is a problem with your 'From' line, some weird characters in it] > I am not bothered at all by the thought that the unused side of any of my > SyQuest disks may have bad sectors. I like it that the drives cost $100 each > (after the rebate) and come with a usable disk, while extra disks are $20 > each and a guaranteed for three years. I agree that the SyQuest drive is great, I really enjoy mine and it has saved me from having to buy a new HD so far However, aren't the cartridges warranteed for 5 years? When I look at the UPC code it says "EZ135 cart 5yr" I cc'd SyQuest on this message, perhaps someone there will clarify TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: 21" Monitors on slabs Message-ID: <32647BA6.42DC@goldengate.net> Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:07:34 -0700 Organization: transwarp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey there, I assume it is safe to set a 21" monitor (weights 90 pounds) on a slab. The case seems incredibly sturdy, but I thought I would check. I've got a 17" NeXT Fimi on it now, but I want to put my NEC XP21 on there, naturally. :) Thanks. Later. -- MATT | mailto:invisix@goldengate.net ** living a microsoft ** jurcich | http://www.goldengate.net/~invisix ** free lifestyle ** Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 32MB, 1.5GB, 17" Fimi, NEXTSTEP 3.2
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Thinking About Upgrading your NeXT Hardware / Software? Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 21:46:52 -0700 Organization: Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961015211104.21155C-100000@kira> References: <01bbbaf8$f44a8200$376df326@void.object-tech.com> <54131m$fto@tkhut.sojourn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <54131m$fto@tkhut.sojourn.com> On 15 Oct 1996 next-expert@my-cube.com wrote: > Date: 15 Oct 1996 22:25:58 GMT > From: next-expert@my-cube.com > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace, comp.sys.next.hardware, > comp.sys.next.software > Subject: Re: Thinking About Upgrading your NeXT Hardware / Software? > > In <01bbbaf8$f44a8200$376df326@void.object-tech.com> "Rob Blessin" wrote: > > Hello NeXT Community: > > > > If you need to Upgrade your NeXT, Intel or Sparc workstation, Optimal > > Object, Inc. offers our services: > > **SPAM deleted**** > > why must you SPAM the groups? > > Anyone, even me, can do all that ourselves, for LESS !!!!!! > > spammers go away... I am violating my own "don't post the same message to more than one NeXT group" rule for this post, don't get me wrong, I dislike crossposted messages within the csn.* hierarchy as much as anyone. Perhaps more, because it effects me FOUR times as much as most people. I have 3 shell accounts on which I read email and I get the digests via email. So crossposting costs me n*4 time and diskspace for saving copies of the exact same message. I have said before, and I will say again, there is no real reason to crosspost within the the NeXT newsgroups. I am convinced that most people who read any of them read them all (.advocasy and .programmer might be exceptions, but no one crossposts to them). It is always best to simply pick the best group and post there. If you don't get a response or much of one, try posting to one other one.... For this message, you are right, it should not have been crossposted because csn..marketplace is the best place for this type of thing. Offering to buy or sell something fits marketplace. I can understand wanting to appeal to hardware and software readers also..... I think I would have submitted this to 'announce' actually, in the form of a press release (if this is a new service). IMO that would be the best way to propagate information to most of the readers.... and it doesn't get that much traffic that it would be lost.... Three supplementary points which are obviously solely my opinion: 1) I don't think "anonymous" posting is much better than crossposting. (and your host information appears in the headers) If you are going to say something, why not take ownership of it? If you don't want to catch flack for it, make sure you really believe it before you post it, or don't post it. 2) crossposting an anonymous message complaining about crossposting _at_least_ borders on hypocrisy [note: I realize I am complaining about crossposting here and I too have crossposted, so I might be accused of the same thing.] 3) Cut 'em some slack! There are very, very few NeXTstep vendors who have survived to this point in time. I was working on reorganizing the 'demos' folder on our FTP site here, and looking through the 'readme' files I'd say that 80% or more no longer exist... There are a lot of cool programs out there that died before being ported to anything other than m68k. How many companies are there out there still supporting their software and writing more programs? I think "a few" might be a way to put it... They are trying to round up some business, I can't say that I blame them. If I worked for a NeXTstep related company I would probably be doing the same thing. It's a rather tenuous position since OpenStep may or may not take off, job security has never been a part of NeXTstep ISVs. If you want to upgrade your machine and don't think you want/need any help, then goto the next message, like turning the channel when something comes on tv that you don't want to buy. [of course it would be easier to say this if the original message had not been posting outside of the marketplace group] Yes, crossposting is annoying, but if I were them, I'd probably be doing the same thing if it were my business at stake in the turmoil that is the NeXTWorld. TjL
From: zyendarr@ix.netcom.com (Zyendarr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Thinking About Upgrading your NeXT Hardware / Software? Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 05:24:53 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <32646d11.8291522@nntp.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bbbaf8$f44a8200$376df326@void.object-tech.com> <54131m$fto@tkhut.sojourn.com> <jburne-1510962250270001@ad52-003.compuserve.com> jburne@sprynet.com (John Burnette) wrote: >Optimal is a quality provider of NeXT systems and parts of long standing. >If you want a good challenge, try finding a hard drive bracket for a next >station without going through a parts house like optimal. > >Feel free to correct my net knowledge but I've always reserved the term >"SPAM" as someone who posts to a multitude of (usually unrelated) >newsgroup or someone who posts the exact same message on a daily basis. >Optimal has done neither. > >Speaking as a very satisfied customer (who learned of Optimal off this >newsgroup) I invite Optimal to continue posting any time they feel it is >appropriate. God knows the NeXT community can use any loyal supplier we >can get. > >And Robbie: Optimal sold me 4 meg simms for my nextstation for $25 each, >with full warranty. Next fan? Sure, it's in stock. Like new laser >printer? $200. >Maybe I'm just a newbie without spare parts in my sock drawer, but they >sure struck me as very competent *and* reasonable. I agree. Obtimal Object is authorized distributor of NeXT/OpenStep. They have great deal for most NeXT users; especially for the educational users. They sell OpenStep 4.0 at $299 (both User and Developer) as an academic bundle. There may be some places offerring better deal, but as far as I know, Optimal Object is good place to get NeXT stuff; at least *NOT* a SPAM. :)
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ135 SyQuest = Nightmare Date: 16 Oct 1996 05:39:20 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <541se8$i6o@news.istar.ca> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961010141049.779A-100000@charisma> <53ojkb$fkl@camel1.mindspring.com> <53pefu$ret@news.istar.ca> <DzALCH.1GF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <DzALCH.1GF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> On 10/14/96, David Evans wrote: >In article <53pefu$ret@news.istar.ca>, > I had no such problems with my Zip drive, purchased about a month > ago. I bought a 10-pack of Zip disks (formatted for PCs) and can > just stick one in, get the Workspace disk initialisation panel, and > format for NeXTSTEP (haven't tried Mac or DOS). One reason why I picked the Syquest over the Zip drives was that supposedly the Zip drives used a software-based write protection scheme. The other arguments were speed (PC magazine rated the Syquest to be 3-4 times faster than the Zip) and slightly higher capacity. On the other hand, Zip disks are supposed to be more tolerant to being "tossed around" and the drives have become something of a standard. (But hey, look at me! I use NeXT's, so I don't pay much attention to what the masses are worshipping.) I was under the impression that disks that had the write protection active could not be formatted on the NeXT. Have you tried turning this protection on using your Mac and then formatting/writing on the disk using your NeXT? -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -=- jsamson@istar.ca -=- NeXTmail & MIME welcome -===================================================================-
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Multiple NCR 810 SCSI cards in one system. Date: 15 Oct 1996 23:35:48 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <vee3ezfpomj.fsf@shell.one.net> I've just bought a new system, and now I'm in the "What are my future upgrade options" mode. Case in point, SCSI bus speed. Someone on comp.periphs.scsi was talking about putting multiple SCSI cards in one system as an alternative to getting an Ultra controller. That made sense, within reason ... assuming that you don't have any single drive which is swamping the Fast SCSI-II bus, you could just add new cards as needed to multiply your aggregate peak transfer rate. Do things work reasonably if you put two ASUS PCI-SC200 (NCR 810 based) cards in one system? Does the ASUS XP55T2P4 BIOS support discriminating between the two for determining what to boot? Does NeXTSTEP allow for multiple SCSI cards in one system? I seem to recall postings about allowing multiple cards from different vendors (a DPT and an Adaptec, for instance), but I don't recall anything about multiple identical cards. [I don't even know why I care about these things. It's not like I really work my system as it is. But, hey, esoteric knowledge is why I'm in this business ...] -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <address and phone work now, I am already in Cincinnati. No new email, yet.>
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Multiple NCR 810 SCSI cards in one system. Date: 16 Oct 1996 07:19:54 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <5422aq$b3j@nntp1.best.com> References: <vee3ezfpomj.fsf@shell.one.net> In-Reply-To: <vee3ezfpomj.fsf@shell.one.net> On 10/15/96, Scott Hess wrote: >Someone on comp.periphs.scsi was talking about putting multiple SCSI >cards in one system as an alternative to getting an Ultra controller. >That made sense, within reason ... assuming that you don't have any >single drive which is swamping the Fast SCSI-II bus, you could just >add new cards as needed to multiply your aggregate peak transfer rate. Multiple SCSI cards will increase your aggregate transfer rates - the disdvantage of doing this rather than upgrading a single card are mostly on the physical side of things - you run out of PCI slots, you run out of interrupts, etc. >Do things work reasonably if you put two ASUS PCI-SC200 (NCR 810 >based) cards in one system? Does the ASUS XP55T2P4 BIOS support >discriminating between the two for determining what to boot? I had two NCR based cards (one NCR810 the other NCR825) running in the same system on an ASUS P55TP4 motherboard at one time. If I remember correctly the BIOS only recognized the first card and the boot drive had to be located on that card. >Does NeXTSTEP allow for multiple SCSI cards in one system? I seem to >recall postings about allowing multiple cards from different vendors >(a DPT and an Adaptec, for instance), but I don't recall anything >about multiple identical cards. Yes - NeXTSTEP had no problem dealing with the two NCR cards. I needed to install two instances of the NCR/Symbios driver. All the drives on one card got mounted and then all the drives on the next card. The Adaptec 3940 is basically two 2940s on a single card and I've heard reports of that working fine as well using two instances of the Adaptec driver. >[I don't even know why I care about these things. It's not like I >really work my system as it is. But, hey, esoteric knowledge is why >I'm in this business ...] >-- >scott hess <shess@winternet.com> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ >Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 >(Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 ><address and phone work now, I am already in Cincinnati. No new email, yet.> > --
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: BLACK HDW Q: Where to find a long Y cable? Date: 16 Oct 1996 08:58:38 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-e-71.usc.edu Message-ID: <54283u$24a@usc.edu> BLACK HDW Q: Where to find a long Y cable? Does anyone still have them? -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k :: NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: ccx009@coventry.ac.uk (Adam Bentley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStation Turbo Colour/ disk upgrade Followup-To: poster Date: 16 Oct 1996 09:55:12 GMT Organization: Coventry University Message-ID: <542be0$rt2@zephyrus.coventry.ac.uk> Hi, I want to stick a larger disk in my old 68040 NextStation Turbo Colour. Currently there is a 400MB seagate drive in there. What models (typically) could I replace it with (it's running NextStep 3.2). I want to put a 2 GB disk in there instead.... the cheapest I've found are manufactured by IBM (Scsi 2, DORS 32160) and HP (Scsi 2, SureStore 2000 LP). Has anyone fitted anything like this into old black hardware and does anyone have any reccommendations/gotchas for doing this kind of swap? thanks for any insight you can provide.... -- -- _ /-\dam ------------------------------------------------------------------------- FLESH: Adam Bentley, Systems/Networking/Usenet, Coventry University. UK
From: hocky@uni-paderborn.de (Thorsten Hock) Newsgroups: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Multiple NCR 810 SCSI cards in one system. Followup-To: alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 16 Oct 1996 12:23:51 GMT Organization: Universitaet Paderborn, Germany Message-ID: <542k4n$410@news.uni-paderborn.de> References: <vee3ezfpomj.fsf@shell.one.net> <5422aq$b3j@nntp1.best.com> Am 16 Oct 1996 07:19:54 GMT schrieb Christopher Wolf (cwolf@wolfware.com) : > >Do things work reasonably if you put two ASUS PCI-SC200 (NCR 810 > >based) cards in one system? Does the ASUS XP55T2P4 BIOS support > >discriminating between the two for determining what to boot? > I had two NCR based cards (one NCR810 the other NCR825) running in the same > system on an ASUS P55TP4 motherboard at one time. If I remember correctly the > BIOS only recognized the first card and the boot drive had to be located on that > card. Same for me. -- MfG..Hocky /** Thorsten Hock - PC-Guru at University of Paderborn /** /** E-Mail: hocky@uni-paderborn.de (privat) /** pcgurus@uni-paderborn.de
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Summary: EIDE versus SCSI CD-ROM drives Date: 16 Oct 1996 10:17:30 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <veepw2jat8l.fsf_-_@shell.one.net> References: <veewwwykf5t.fsf@shell.one.net> In-reply-to: shess@shell.one.net's message of 10 Oct 1996 11:33:18 -0400 I wrote: Anyhow, beyond the "have to build a drivers disk" problem for NS install, will there be any runtime problems with an 8x IDE drive versus a 4x SCSI drive? The responses have been varied. On the one hand, it sounds like there is no _real_ problem with using an IDE CDROM drive. It works, though it's less convenient. If the only time you're inconvenienced is at install time, well, that's livable. If you use one of the music CD controller apps, or have to support multiple operating systems, you might want SCSI. There was some speculation that you could actually gain performance by getting the SCSI CD-ROM off the SCSI bus. Older/Dumber CD-ROMs apparently can conflict with newer SCSI features like command queuing. Thus the mere presence of the CD-ROM on your SCSI bus can slow other drives down. This shouldn't as much of a concern with _new_ SCSI drives, since the on-board logic for Fast SCSI-II really shouldn't be any more expensive than base SCSI logic. [This probably can also be addressed by using a second SCSI controller.] Perhaps the most telling point was that installs don't really make good use of 8x speed _anyhow_, due to frequent seeks. [NeXTSTEP .pkg files should work better, here. NT's install is so braindead that you probably lose there.] On the other hand, many SCSI CD-ROMs apparently have better seek times than their IDE counterparts. It may be that equivalently prices 4x SCSI and 8x IDE drives will perform similarily for non-game use based entirely on faster seek times on the SCSI drive. So, it sounds like pretty much a wash. Since there are decent 4x SCSI drives around $100, that's probably where I'll go. Just for the convenience argument. Later, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <address and phone work now, I am already in Cincinnati. No new email, yet.>
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WTB: Long monitor cable Date: 16 Oct 1996 10:23:59 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <veeohi3asxs.fsf@shell.one.net> References: <540vgn$st3@news2.texas.net> In-reply-to: mrbill@texas.net's message of 15 Oct 1996 21:25:43 GMT In article <540vgn$st3@news2.texas.net>, mrbill@texas.net (Bill Bradford) writes: I'm looking for a monitor cable longer than the 12" or so that came with my NeXTstation... the 400mb HD in the NeXTstation is *way* too loud, and I'd like to put the slab in a stack of CPUs off to the side of my desk.... Anyways, I *think* its the HD that's making the noise. I havent bothered to take the cover off yet... It is the 400M, believe me. Not too long ago I swapped out my 400M for a three year old DEC DSP3105S, and it is _much_ less noisy. The 400M had a continuous annoying hum, the DEC drive is not too bad except on seeks. In pursuit of further noise-cutting, I'm swapping that drive out for a modern 5400RPM drive. These are even less noisy. That should make the noisiest part of my slab the fan. The Seagate Hawk (ST31230N) I'm swapping in is quieter, smaller (low profile), much cooler, and faster. And only cost me $330 last spring, so it must be cheaper now. Later, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <address and phone work now, I am already in Cincinnati. No new email, yet.>
From: wrb@biostr.washington.edu (William Barker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any other HP DAT autoloader users out there? Date: 16 Oct 1996 16:07:05 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <543179$5bn@nntp1.u.washington.edu> I'd like to talk with other HP DAT autoloader (1553a) users about their successes and failures using the device with black hardware. Please email if you're interested. Thanks, bb -- Bill Barker Computer Systems and Networks Administrator Biological Structure, Box 357420 University of Washington Seattle WA 98195-7420 (206) 543-7315 wrb@u.washington.edu "In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is Bacteria." --Old German Saying.
From: mrbill@texas.net (Bill Bradford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WTB: Long monitor cable Date: 16 Oct 1996 16:52:53 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <5433t5$nvg@news2.texas.net> References: <540vgn$st3@news2.texas.net> <veeohi3asxs.fsf@shell.one.net> Scott Hess (shess@shell.one.net) wrote: : Anyways, I *think* its the HD that's making the noise. I havent : bothered to take the cover off yet... : It is the 400M, believe me. Not too long ago I swapped out my 400M : for a three year old DEC DSP3105S, and it is _much_ less noisy. The : 400M had a continuous annoying hum, the DEC drive is not too bad : except on seeks. Yep .. fans dont make high-pitched noises and stop making noises when the HD spins down.... this is so bad that I am hardly using the machine or even leaving it on, at least until I get my NeXTStep 3.2 CD, then I can load the OS on the external 1gig HD I have and just unplug the power from the internal one. Bill
From: John Hue <mlib@inter.net.il> Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.intel.ipsc310,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.m88k,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mentor,comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New MoneyMaking Method - NO MLM Involved - 5 times better then MLM Date: 16 Oct 1996 11:47:13 GMT Organization: Internet Gold Distribution: inet Message-ID: <542i01$3g5@dns2.inter.net.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are you tired of seeing this: Make 100,000$ in a month If so I agree with you. Sure, the above business will make you a few hundred dollars or maybe even a few thousand. But it doesnt live up to its standards. How would you like to REALLY make some money using a proven way? Please take note: THIS IS NOT A MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING BUSINESS. I AM NOT A COMPANY NOR A BUSINESS, I AM A NORMAL PERSON JUST LIKE YOU. I DO NOT WORK FOR A COMPANY OR BUSINESS AND NON OF THE MONEY I MAKE GOES TO ANY COMPANY OR BUSINESS. I AM NOT SELLING VITAMINS OR LONG DISTANCE SERVICE I am selling you a very simple VERY effective thing: "The Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret". To be honest, MLM is starting to lose its amazement. Sure, it was great once but there are now so many busnesses out there now that you'll be lucky to make back the money you paid to get in. No one can seem to think of other methods of getting rich, though they try. Because if someone were to find another method the first ones to use it will become rich. So let me tell you that I HAVE FOUND IT. I have found the Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret. It is so amazing that once you see it you will say: "Why didnt I think of that?". I have not yet finished college and I will NEVER WORK AGAIN. I am begining to recieve thousands of dollars and this will continue for a LONG time. I believe, no I dont believe, I KNOW this is better then MLM. MLM can be convincing but this WILL work. And I am giving you the oppurtunity to be one of the first ones to use it. This method has started in the middle of 1996, and once you get the "Secret" you will have 40,000,000 people to to make money off of with it. So are you ready to shove off MLM and watch the money start flowing in? I am offering you a once in a lifetime oppurtunity to be the one of the first people to use this method. And, if you order within 15 days of seeing this, I will give you 100$ off the regular price. So, instead of paying 160$ I am going to give you "The Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret" for ONLY 60$. You cant let this go by. Say GoodBye to MLM, Say goodbye to your debts and say hello to paradise. for 60$ your life will never be the same(in a good way). Ordering Info: Please fill out the application below, and send a US FUNDS CHECK ONLY(no money orders or cash) made out to: Opher Lieber. Please send to the following address: Opher Lieber 26/10 Hertzel St. Kfar Saba 44444 ISRAEL ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Order Form Name:____________________ Address:_______________________ City:_________ State/Province:_________ Postal Code:___________ Country:_____________ E-mail*:__________@______________ * - This is the most important. "The Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret" will be sent to you by E-mail. If the E-mail listed is invalid, if the check is invalid or if there is a problem, your check along with a reason will be sent to the name and address listed above. Please Check All That Apply: __I am ordering within 15 days of seeing this Order Form. Please deduct 100$ off the price for a total of 60$. __I Would like to order the "Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret". I have enclosed a check in US funds for _____$(Please send 60$ if the first option is checked and 160$ if it isnt and fill in that amount in this space.) I understand that as soon as you recieve the check I will be sent "The Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret" by E-mail. I also understand that if the check is not in U.S. funds or if there is another problem The check will be returned to the address listed above. -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: dknox@uga.cc.uga.edu (David K. Knox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: How do I set up to use DNS? Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:24:53 -0500 Organization: Disability Services, University of Georgia Message-ID: <dknox-1610961524530001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> Greetings NeXT enthusiasts! I recently connected my 030 Cube running NS 3.2 to our network. Everything seems great: ftp etc works when IP# are put in, NetWare sees the servers. However, I cannot figure out how to get the machine to use the Domain Name Server. I followed the procedure I used on Silicon Graphics, created /usr/etc/resolv.conf but it seems to be ineffective. I have searched NeXTAnswers and the documentation but to no avail. Iwould greatly appreciate any advice you can give me. Thanks for your help.
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.intel.ipsc310,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.m88k,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mentor,comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <542i01$3g5@dns2.inter.net.il> Date: 16 Oct 1996 20:23:32 GMT Control: cancel <542i01$3g5@dns2.inter.net.il> Message-ID: <cancel.542i01$3g5@dns2.inter.net.il> Sender: John Hue <mlib@inter.net.il> Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 1996116.05. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/1996116.05.html for complete report. Original Subject: New MoneyMaking Method - NO MLM Involved - 5 times better then MLM
From: Little Saint <santino@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.intel.ipsc310,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.m88k,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mentor,comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New MoneyMaking Method - NO MLM Involved - 5 times better then MLM Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:14:14 -0400 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32654216.301A@earthlink.net> References: <542i01$3g5@dns2.inter.net.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Hue wrote: > > Are you tired of seeing this: > > Make 100,000$ in a month > > If so I agree with you. Sure, the above business will make you a few > hundred dollars or maybe even a few thousand. But it doesnt live up > to its standards. How would you like to REALLY make some money using > a proven way? Please take note: > > THIS IS NOT A MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING BUSINESS. > > I AM NOT A COMPANY NOR A BUSINESS, I AM A NORMAL PERSON JUST LIKE YOU. > > I DO NOT WORK FOR A COMPANY OR BUSINESS AND NON OF THE MONEY I MAKE > GOES TO ANY COMPANY OR BUSINESS. > > I AM NOT SELLING VITAMINS OR LONG DISTANCE SERVICE > > I am selling you a very simple VERY effective thing: "The Ultimate > MoneyMaking Secret". To be honest, MLM is starting to lose its amazement. > Sure, it was great once but there are now so many busnesses out there now > that you'll be lucky to make back the money you paid to get in. No one > can seem to think of other methods of getting rich, though they try. > Because if someone were to find another method the first ones to use it > will become rich. So let me tell you that I HAVE FOUND IT. > > I have found the Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret. It is so amazing that once > you see it you will say: "Why didnt I think of that?". I have not yet > finished college and I will NEVER WORK AGAIN. I am begining to recieve > thousands of dollars and this will continue for a LONG time. I believe, > no I dont believe, I KNOW this is better then MLM. MLM can be > convincing but this WILL work. And I am giving you the oppurtunity to > be one of the first ones to use it. This method has started in the middle > of 1996, and once you get the "Secret" you will have 40,000,000 people to > to make money off of with it. So are you ready to shove off MLM and watch > the money start flowing in? I am offering you a once in a lifetime > oppurtunity to be the one of the first people to use this method. And, if > you order within 15 days of seeing this, I will give you 100$ off the > regular price. So, instead of paying 160$ I am going to give you "The > Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret" for ONLY 60$. You cant let this go by. Say > GoodBye to MLM, Say goodbye to your debts and say hello to paradise. for > 60$ your life will never be the same(in a good way). > > Ordering Info: > Please fill out the application below, and send a US FUNDS CHECK ONLY(no > money orders or cash) made out to: Opher Lieber. Please send to the > following address: > > Opher Lieber > 26/10 Hertzel St. > Kfar Saba 44444 > ISRAEL > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Order Form > > Name:____________________ Address:_______________________ > City:_________ State/Province:_________ Postal Code:___________ > Country:_____________ E-mail*:__________@______________ > > * - This is the most important. "The Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret" will be > sent to you by E-mail. If the E-mail listed is invalid, if the check is > invalid or if there is a problem, your check along with a reason will be > sent to the name and address listed above. > > Please Check All That Apply: > > __I am ordering within 15 days of seeing this Order Form. Please deduct > 100$ off the price for a total of 60$. > > __I Would like to order the "Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret". I have > enclosed a check in US funds for _____$(Please send 60$ if the first > option is checked and 160$ if it isnt and fill in that amount in this > space.) I understand that as soon as you recieve the check I will be > sent "The Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret" by E-mail. I also understand that > if the check is not in U.S. funds or if there is another problem The > check will be returned to the address listed above. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The new "Money Making Secret" wouldn't by any chance be selling the secret for $60 would it? That's old and illegal.
From: stoconno@uiuc.edu (Sean T. O'Connor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.intel.ipsc310,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.m88k,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mentor,comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New MoneyMaking Method - NO MLM Involved - 5 times better then MLM Date: 16 Oct 1996 20:21:27 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: inet Message-ID: <stoconno-1610961522460001@crh1004.urh.uiuc.edu> References: <542i01$3g5@dns2.inter.net.il> In article <542i01$3g5@dns2.inter.net.il>, John Hue <mlib@inter.net.il> wrote: >Are you tired of seeing this: > >Make 100,000$ in a month > >If so I agree with you. Sure, the above business will make you a few >hundred dollars or maybe even a few thousand. But it doesnt live up >to its standards. How would you like to REALLY make some money using >a proven way? Please take note: > >THIS IS NOT A MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING BUSINESS. > >I AM NOT A COMPANY NOR A BUSINESS, I AM A NORMAL PERSON JUST LIKE YOU. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I just have to reply to this bastard: ...NO, YOU ARE SHIT. NEVER, EVER POST TO ANY NEWSGROUP AGAIN. -- -Sean O'Connor stoconno@uiuc.edu _________________________________________________________ Mac users tend to have a 100% benchmark: "It doesn't work _perfectly_." _________________________________________________________ While Windows users tend to have a 0% benchmark: "Something WORKS!"
From: paulg@fas-news.harvard.edu (Paul Guglielmino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PC monitor on Next? Date: 16 Oct 1996 20:51:15 GMT Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Message-ID: <543hs3$rvc@decaxp.harvard.edu> Can I run a pc (vga connector) monitor on a next? I'm thinking of buying a next but do not know a lot about the differences between models. Is there a faq or similiar source of info on the net? Thanks, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Guglielmino \|/ Sysadming is a burden, paulg@law.harvard.edu (o o) not a priviledge. ------------------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo------= Aaron Marsh =-----
From: bhu@top.cis.syr.edu (Bing Hu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fail to initialize seagate 2.GB external drive Date: 16 Oct 1996 22:29:21 GMT Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept. Distribution: world Message-ID: <543nk1$bgf@newstand.syr.edu> Hi! Please help: When I tried to install the new 2.0 GB seagate external hard drive. I got the following error message: " Software Version 3.2 (Lightning5S) probing for CDROM probing for DOS probing for mac probing for cdaudio /usr/etc/disk -i -h plusone -l "math-main" /dev/rsd1a disk name: SEAGATE ST32155N disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label boot block extends beyond front porch " When I use disk program to do it from command line, it give the same message when I tried to do init. It seems to be that it failed to write /usr/standalone/boot my version of boot dated Oct19, 1993. Does this has anything to do with it ? This is on a black NeXT running 3.2 NeXT Step. I don't have problems in initializing old quantum externall drives that are several hundred megs. Thanks in advance. ***************************************************************** Bing Hu Computer System Administrator Office: 317A Carnegie, Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY 13244 Tel: (315)-443-1588(o); FAX: (315)-443-1475 Email: binghu@math.syr.edu; bhu@top.cis.syr.edu ***************************************************************** URL:http://www.cis.syr.edu/~bhu (Netscape 2.0; Running Java) http://web.syr.edu/~bhu (Regular Version) *****************************************************************
From: Juergen Wakunda <wakunda@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: exception #2 and #3 on boot-?? Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:29:10 +0100 Organization: InterNetNews at ZDV Uni-Tuebingen Message-ID: <3264FF46.59E2@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <53pjf9$81a@nntp1.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carl Hansen wrote: > > I am helping a friend with his Turbo 24meg slab 2bit screen. > > almost immediately on bootup the monitor says: > > Exception #3 or maybe: > > Exception #2 (0xc) at pc 0x100060e sp 0xc03f600 > > tried reseating the simms, moving simms around, > pushing in ROM chip, swaping monitor and keyboard, > mouse. Same results. What is going on? > > Where can I find out about this stuff? > any clues at all would be most appreciated. I have just the same problem: immediately on bootup (32 MB, 25 MHz Motorola Machine) there occurs the following exception: Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c After trying to reboot with one of the following commands: b sd b fd b od always the exception 2 occurs: Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x100b9dc Swapping SIMMS did not change anything. This is an urgent problem for me, if anybody knows an answer, please also respond by email. Juergen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Dipl.-Inform. Juergen Wakunda Universitaet Tuebingen, WSI, Lehrstuhl Rechnerarchitektur Koestlinstr. 6, 72074 Tuebingen, Germany ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Tel. 07071/29-77175, Fax: 07071/922983 mailto:wakunda@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de http://www-ra.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/wakunda =======================================================================
From: Jesper Lai Petersen <lai@iesd.auc.dk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.intel.ipsc310,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.m88k,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mentor,comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New MoneyMaking Method - NO MLM Involved - 5 times better then MLM Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 23:27:01 +0200 Organization: Aalborg University (Department of Math & Computer Science) Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32655325.74B5@iesd.auc.dk> References: <542i01$3g5@dns2.inter.net.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John Hue <mlib@inter.net.il> John Hue wrote: > > Are you tired of seeing this: > > Make 100,000$ in a month > > If so I agree with you. Sure, the above business will make you a few > hundred dollars or maybe even a few thousand. But it doesnt live up > to its standards. How would you like to REALLY make some money using > a proven way? Please take note: > > THIS IS NOT A MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING BUSINESS. > > I AM NOT A COMPANY NOR A BUSINESS, I AM A NORMAL PERSON JUST LIKE YOU. > > I DO NOT WORK FOR A COMPANY OR BUSINESS AND NON OF THE MONEY I MAKE > GOES TO ANY COMPANY OR BUSINESS. > > I AM NOT SELLING VITAMINS OR LONG DISTANCE SERVICE > > I am selling you a very simple VERY effective thing: "The Ultimate > MoneyMaking Secret". To be honest, MLM is starting to lose its amazement. > Sure, it was great once but there are now so many busnesses out there now > that you'll be lucky to make back the money you paid to get in. No one > can seem to think of other methods of getting rich, though they try. > Because if someone were to find another method the first ones to use it > will become rich. So let me tell you that I HAVE FOUND IT. > > I have found the Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret. It is so amazing that once > you see it you will say: "Why didnt I think of that?". I have not yet > finished college and I will NEVER WORK AGAIN. I am begining to recieve > thousands of dollars and this will continue for a LONG time. I believe, > no I dont believe, I KNOW this is better then MLM. MLM can be > convincing but this WILL work. And I am giving you the oppurtunity to > be one of the first ones to use it. This method has started in the middle > of 1996, and once you get the "Secret" you will have 40,000,000 people to > to make money off of with it. So are you ready to shove off MLM and watch > the money start flowing in? I am offering you a once in a lifetime > oppurtunity to be the one of the first people to use this method. And, if > you order within 15 days of seeing this, I will give you 100$ off the > regular price. So, instead of paying 160$ I am going to give you "The > Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret" for ONLY 60$. You cant let this go by. Say > GoodBye to MLM, Say goodbye to your debts and say hello to paradise. for > 60$ your life will never be the same(in a good way). > > Ordering Info: > Please fill out the application below, and send a US FUNDS CHECK ONLY(no > money orders or cash) made out to: Opher Lieber. Please send to the > following address: (..deleted..) Yea Right "Do as I did, and soon you will make a fortune" Well fuck off! (this IS a flame) -Jesper
From: devan2m@imap2.asu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Just An Observation ... Date: 17 Oct 1996 02:06:17 GMT Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> Keywords: NeXT Computer Inc., NeXT Software Inc., Motorola Hardware Black Hardware Still Not Getting Any Respect? Although plenty seem to quitely use it and refer to and use it as a standard of hardware excellence. Take a peak at the fourth paragraph of following URL on Apple's Web Site and note, as many seem to do, the error in capitalization. This was something that I had perused several months back, but because of the error in capitalization, the reference failed to register. http://www.macworld.com/q/@147781kjmcrx/pages/september.96/extras/vision.html Enjoy!!
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: exception #2 and #3 on boot-?? Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:31:21 -0700 Organization: The NeXT FTP site at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961016192734.8609A-100000@kira> References: <53pjf9$81a@nntp1.best.com> <3264FF46.59E2@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Juergen Wakunda <wakunda@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> In-Reply-To: <3264FF46.59E2@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> When I had this problem I turned off some of the error testing and the parity testing and did a hard reboot and it worked OK. Then I turned the error testing back on and it worked fine. Once it happens a hard reboot is the only thing that will fix it. TjL
From: womurphy@ix.netcom.com (Shrike) Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.intel.ipsc310,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.m88k,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mentor,comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need a rebuttal was: New MoneyMaking Method - NO MLM Involved - 5 times better then MLM Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 02:43:23 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5446hi$l07@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> References: <542i01$3g5@dns2.inter.net.il> <32654216.301A@earthlink.net> Little Saint <santino@earthlink.net> wrote: I started writing and collecting answers to the make money schemes that have been appearing unappreciated on the net. Clearly this is one area where the creative writing of ng participants has excelled. If one of these has driven you to a new level of frustration copy me on the reply. At some point I am going to publish a top ten. womurphy@ix.netcom.com >John Hue wrote: >> >> Are you tired of seeing this: >> >> Make 100,000$ in a month >> >> If so I agree with you. Sure, the above business will make you a few >> hundred dollars or maybe even a few thousand. But it doesnt live up >> to its standards. How would you like to REALLY make some money using >> a proven way? Please take note: >> >> THIS IS NOT A MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING BUSINESS. >> >> I AM NOT A COMPANY NOR A BUSINESS, I AM A NORMAL PERSON JUST LIKE YOU. >> >> I DO NOT WORK FOR A COMPANY OR BUSINESS AND NON OF THE MONEY I MAKE >> GOES TO ANY COMPANY OR BUSINESS. >> >> I AM NOT SELLING VITAMINS OR LONG DISTANCE SERVICE >> >> I am selling you a very simple VERY effective thing: "The Ultimate >> MoneyMaking Secret". To be honest, MLM is starting to lose its amazement. >> Sure, it was great once but there are now so many busnesses out there now >> that you'll be lucky to make back the money you paid to get in. No one >> can seem to think of other methods of getting rich, though they try. >> Because if someone were to find another method the first ones to use it >> will become rich. So let me tell you that I HAVE FOUND IT. >> >> I have found the Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret. It is so amazing that once >> you see it you will say: "Why didnt I think of that?". I have not yet >> finished college and I will NEVER WORK AGAIN. I am begining to recieve >> thousands of dollars and this will continue for a LONG time. I believe, >> no I dont believe, I KNOW this is better then MLM. MLM can be >> convincing but this WILL work. And I am giving you the oppurtunity to >> be one of the first ones to use it. This method has started in the middle >> of 1996, and once you get the "Secret" you will have 40,000,000 people to >> to make money off of with it. So are you ready to shove off MLM and watch >> the money start flowing in? I am offering you a once in a lifetime >> oppurtunity to be the one of the first people to use this method. And, if >> you order within 15 days of seeing this, I will give you 100$ off the >> regular price. So, instead of paying 160$ I am going to give you "The >> Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret" for ONLY 60$. You cant let this go by. Say >> GoodBye to MLM, Say goodbye to your debts and say hello to paradise. for >> 60$ your life will never be the same(in a good way). >> >> Ordering Info: >> Please fill out the application below, and send a US FUNDS CHECK ONLY(no >> money orders or cash) made out to: Opher Lieber. Please send to the >> following address: >> >> Opher Lieber >> 26/10 Hertzel St. >> Kfar Saba 44444 >> ISRAEL >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> The Order Form >> >> Name:____________________ Address:_______________________ >> City:_________ State/Province:_________ Postal Code:___________ >> Country:_____________ E-mail*:__________@______________ >> >> * - This is the most important. "The Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret" will be >> sent to you by E-mail. If the E-mail listed is invalid, if the check is >> invalid or if there is a problem, your check along with a reason will be >> sent to the name and address listed above. >> >> Please Check All That Apply: >> >> __I am ordering within 15 days of seeing this Order Form. Please deduct >> 100$ off the price for a total of 60$. >> >> __I Would like to order the "Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret". I have >> enclosed a check in US funds for _____$(Please send 60$ if the first >> option is checked and 160$ if it isnt and fill in that amount in this >> space.) I understand that as soon as you recieve the check I will be >> sent "The Ultimate MoneyMaking Secret" by E-mail. I also understand that >> if the check is not in U.S. funds or if there is another problem The >> check will be returned to the address listed above. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >The new "Money Making Secret" wouldn't by any chance be selling the secret for $60 >would it? That's old and illegal.
From: rwakeman@thoughtport.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: install OpenStep 4 on NT4 intel machine Date: 17 Oct 1996 03:45:42 GMT Organization: The ThoughtPort Authority, Inc. Message-ID: <544a56$f2q@chinx10.thoughtport.net> Has anybody installed OpenStep 4. on a 200mhz intel with NT4.0? If so, please send me the step by step procedure. My machine can't read the cd disk. I'm one of those people who's used to black hardware just working. Thanks, Robert Wakeman rwakeman@thoughtport.com
From: frontier@fii.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 2Mx32 60ns $34.00 Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 23:08:52 Organization: Delta Internet Services, Anaheim, CA Message-ID: <543pih$cok@news05.deltanet.com> Hi there, I am the Marketing Manager of Frontier Industrial, I would like to let you know of special that we have on 8 MB SIMMS. I can offer you 2MX32 60ns modules @ $34.00 per piece. VARS, DEALERS, DISTRIBUTORS, & SYSTEM INTEGRATORS ONLY PLEASE Frontier Industrial http://www.fii.com
From: shane@quad-ckrl212.colorado.edu (Shane Clements) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: How do I set up to use DNS? Date: 17 Oct 1996 08:04:21 GMT Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Message-ID: <544pa5$a17@lace.colorado.edu> References: <dknox-1610961524530001@plato.dissvcs.uga.edu> dknox@uga.cc.uga.edu (David K. Knox) wrote: >Greetings NeXT enthusiasts! I recently connected my 030 Cube running NS >3.2 to our network. Everything seems great: ftp etc works when IP# are put >in, NetWare sees the servers. However, I cannot figure out how to get the >machine to use the Domain Name Server. I followed the procedure I used on >Silicon Graphics, created /usr/etc/resolv.conf but it seems to be >ineffective. I have searched NeXTAnswers and the documentation but to no >avail. Iwould greatly appreciate any advice you can give me. Thanks for >your help. put it in /etc/resolv.conf, it should solve the problem. -Shane Clements shane@quad-ckrl212.colorado.edu
From: shane@quad-ckrl212.colorado.edu (Shane Clements) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16 on 3.3 <- help me too! Date: 17 Oct 1996 08:35:35 GMT Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Message-ID: <544r4n$a17@lace.colorado.edu> References: <53fr8a$5kl@pinta.kolumbus.fi> mkoivikk@ratol.fi (Mika Koivikko) wrote: >I have SB16 PnP ,P133, NS 3.3, and I get it work: > >1. I disable PnP, (I have ISA/EISA Bus Support v3.32) > >2. I install Sound Blaster 16(8 and 16 bit DMA) v3.33 driver and set > IRQ=5, DMA=1,5, PORT=0x220 > >3. I have to boot DOS and use ICU.EXE (DOS PnP config prog) > and I disablbe port 108h > >4. I boot back to NS and it works. (you have set it up again in DOS, > if you power off) > >btw. How I can use my TB Monterey like sound device? > Its DSP only work. I have installed MusicKit 4.1.1. > (I have not read much mans) > >- Mika > >A:MikaKoivikko, Seminaarinkatu 2 as. 112, 92100 RAAHE, FINLAND >P:+358-08-2231062 >E:mkoivikk@ratol.fi I found a better way. I turns out that the PnP driver will work. It just need the proper PnP device id number. Whe your machine boot up you can see it go by, it looks like 0x0e8c044 or something. Anyway, write this number down and go into the Configure.app. Do Expert on the PnP driver and edit the Device id value to match your id number. I think the only digits that need changing are the last 2. -Shane Clements shane@quad-ckrl212.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Monitor cable Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DzDyLI.FvF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:36:54 GMT References: <540jod$8ju@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> <32647AE8.148E@goldengate.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <32647AE8.148E@goldengate.net>, Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> wrote: >Hey Martin, > >Sounds like you might have a regular NeXT 13W3-type cable (possibly a Y cable) >and a 13W3 to BNC adapter (the Red, Green, and Blue plugs). Give Deep >Space Technologies a look-see at http://www.deepspacetech.com and they >should be able to fix you up. I ordered a BNC adapter from them two days >ago, and he had a few more of them. And if I'm wrong, they should be able >to tell you what you need/have. > You can get one of these from computerActive as well: http://www.computeractive.com/. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DeskJet 600 Date: 17 Oct 1996 10:36:53 GMT Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland Message-ID: <545286$psj@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <53rja2$8j5@tandem.CAM.ORG> Rene Guimont (rene@blanche.HIP.CAM.ORG) wrote: > Does someone have a trick for using a Deskjet 600 with a NextStep 3.3 > black system?? > I don't want to pay to get the Dots package... Too expensive for my bank > account :( 3.3 on black.. so you probably have a license from a previous version of NEXTSTEP. In that case, it's perfectly legal for you to use the public domain software that drives a deskjet printer from NEXTSTEP. Look for it on the archives. The version I have is called "djf_for_3.0.tar.Z". Send me personal email if you cannot find it anywhere and would like a copy nextmailed. By the way, I tried it out once, but was not too impressed with the rendering of greyscale images. From what I've seen, Dots does a much better job - I guess what you get is what you pay for ;-) Hope this helps, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WTB: Long monitor cable Date: 17 Oct 1996 10:46:01 GMT Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland Message-ID: <5452p9$psj@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <540vgn$st3@news2.texas.net> <Pine.NXT.3.95.961015181904.1193E-100000@charisma> Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@nerc.com) wrote: > It might be the fan inside the HD that's making the noise, from > what others have said. Open the case and unplug the fan, that's the only way to find out what really causes the noise. I have bought a Panasonic Hydro-Wave that somebody recommeded here, and it actually is _louder_ then the original fan. Caveat emptor! Instead, I plan to take the the internal disk out (a 400 meg Seagate, these are quite loud) and put it in an external drive. I have an old Quantum 105 drive that'll go inside the station as a replacement - these little babies are _very_ quiet, and hardly produce any heat. Hope this helps, Chris. -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: neuss@isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PC monitor on Next? Date: 17 Oct 1996 10:54:23 GMT Organization: Fachbereich Informatik, TH Darmstadt, Deutschland Message-ID: <54538v$psj@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <543hs3$rvc@decaxp.harvard.edu> Paul Guglielmino (paulg@fas-news.harvard.edu) wrote: > Can I run a pc (vga connector) monitor on a next? I'm thinking of > buying a next but do not know a lot about the differences between > models. Is there a faq or similiar source of info on the net? Please hit the return key somewhere around the 75th column ;-) A color station or NeXTdimension cube can be used with a PC monitor, provided it can handle the resolution (1120x832), and is capable of handling sync-on-green. Most multisyncs will fulfill ithese requirements. For example, I was able to connect an Eizo Flexscan w/out problems. Please note that an old cheapo SVGA monitor won't do. Best wishes, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ135 SyQuest = Nightmare Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DzE3Ew.2xC@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:20:56 GMT References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961010141049.779A-100000@charisma> <53pefu$ret@news.istar.ca> <DzALCH.1GF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <541se8$i6o@news.istar.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <541se8$i6o@news.istar.ca>, Jean-Paul C. Samson <jsamson@istar.ca> wrote: >On 10/14/96, David Evans wrote: >>In article <53pefu$ret@news.istar.ca>, >> I had no such problems with my Zip drive, purchased about a month >> ago. I bought a 10-pack of Zip disks (formatted for PCs) and can >> just stick one in, get the Workspace disk initialisation panel, and >> format for NeXTSTEP (haven't tried Mac or DOS). > >One reason why I picked the Syquest over the Zip drives was that >supposedly the Zip drives used a software-based write protection >scheme. The other arguments were speed (PC magazine rated the Syquest >to be 3-4 times faster than the Zip) and slightly higher capacity. On >the other hand, Zip disks are supposed to be more tolerant to being >"tossed around" and the drives have become something of a standard. This whole Zip/Syquest debate rages on in many groups--I recall it being pretty active back when the opponents were the Bourli (sp?) and the SQ555! Anyway, my Zip works well and I like it. The media seems rugged, as does the drive, and the drive's small size is a big bonus. The cables are a pain, but I have other external SCSI gizmos anyway so it doesn't really matter to me. I had a Syquest SQ555 in my Amiga 2000 years ago and was impressed by everything except the reliability. The Zip isn't MO, but it makes me feel better than the Syquest stuff. Plus the Zip's case almost matches my Rev 6 BeBox. :-) I guess it all comes down to personal preference. >the NeXT. Have you tried turning this protection on using your Mac >and then formatting/writing on the disk using your NeXT? > Haven't tried that yet. The Mac is at school, so it may be a little while before I can run this experiment. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Can I use next hardware in any way for my MAC Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DzE3In.1wo@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:23:11 GMT References: <Pine.SOL.3.95.961015175908.3679A-100000@rac2.wam.umd.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.961015175908.3679A-100000@rac2.wam.umd.edu>, Ed Pearson <macxpirt@wam.umd.edu> wrote: >Just wondering if anyone has tried to make it work... thanks for the >replies > What kind of NeXT hardware? ADB keyboards/mice? Sure. Memory? Maybe, depending on type, etc. Mono monitor? Forget it. Colour monitor? Maybe. A better idea would likely be to sell the NeXT hardware in question to a user who really needs it (working non-ADB mice especialy!) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Thinking About Upgrading your NeXT Hardware / Software? Date: 17 Oct 1996 14:01:03 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <545e6v$a6f@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <01bbbaf8$f44a8200$376df326@void.object-tech.com> <54131m$fto@tkhut.sojourn.com> In-Reply-To: <54131m$fto@tkhut.sojourn.com> On 10/16/96, next-expert@my-cube.com wrote: > In <01bbbaf8$f44a8200$376df326@void.object-tech.com> "Rob Blessin" wrote: > > Hello NeXT Community: > > > > If you need to Upgrade your NeXT, Intel or Sparc workstation, Optimal > > Object, Inc. offers our services: > > **SPAM deleted**** > > why must you SPAM the groups? > > Anyone, even me, can do all that ourselves, for LESS !!!!!! > > spammers go away... > If anyone has spammed, IMHO it's "next-expert". Whilst I might weakly suggest that Rob might confine this sort of thing to the marketplace group, given the general level of traffic here, and the scarcity of NeXT-aware reseallers, I don't think he was by any means out of order. I haven't had any direct dealings with Optimal-Object myself, however I've read a number of Rob's posts, and I'm impressed. I feel better knowing they're around and might be able to help out in the future. I challenge you to should how you could do all that Optimal Object can do for less: I know I certainly couldn't, and chances are I've been in the NeXT arena longer than you (since late 1990). If you've been around longer, fine, please don't waste bandwidth telling me about it. Best wishes, mmalc. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu Sender: frontier@fii.com Date: 17 Oct 1996 10:02:03 EDT Control: cancel <543pih$cok@news05.deltanet.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <543pih$cok@news05.deltanet.com> no reply ignore Message-ID: <cancel.543pih$cok@news05.deltanet.com> Spam/MMF cancelled by dsr@lns598.lns.cornell.edu original subject was 2Mx32 60ns $34.00
From: ccx009@coventry.ac.uk (Adam Bentley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Simms for NeXT Colour Turbo? Followup-To: poster Date: 17 Oct 1996 14:45:11 GMT Organization: Coventry University Message-ID: <545gpn$hd0@zephyrus.coventry.ac.uk> Simple question, what SIMMS will be suitable for a NeXTStation Mono Turbo? Someone stole the memory from it... ;-( thanks. -- -- _ /-\dam ------------------------------------------------------------------------- FLESH: Adam Bentley, Systems/Networking/Usenet, Coventry University. UK
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: exception #2 and #3 on boot-?? Date: 17 Oct 1996 16:04:18 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <545le2$8j7@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <53pjf9$81a@nntp1.best.com> <3264FF46.59E2@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> <Pine.SUN.3.95.961016192734.8609A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > >When I had this problem I turned off some of the error testing and the >parity testing and did a hard reboot and it worked OK. > >Then I turned the error testing back on and it worked fine. Once it >happens a hard reboot is the only thing that will fix it. I had exception errors when I first got a used slab. Here is the response I got from one of the Bell Atlantic people. --Ryan Scott ----------------------------------------------------- Hello, Here at Bell Atlantic, we sell and service the original NeXT computer hardware. Exception errors are basic addressing errors in the 68040 processor. These errors are listed in the Motorola 608040 reference book. Unfortunately this is meaningless to the user and even the technician, because it is only the symptom. The cause of the failure will be either hardware failures or software problems. Exception #2 or #3 is usually caused by defective cpu board. To check this you should power down the computer and remove the battery on the cpu board for about 45 minutes (5 minutes for turbo cpus). By removing the battery, you will completely reset the computer which may clear up the problem. If the computer still fails, the cpu board will need to be repaired. One failure is caused by a defective clock crystal. Without an accurate clock, the cpu cannot function properly resulting in an exception error upon bootup. We have replacement cpu boards available for $528. Give us a call! Would you like a copy of our sales pricelist (ASCII, NeXTmail, fax)? Thanks, Brad Sime --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bell Atlantic CTS NeXT Sales & Service Rep. 800-499-NeXT (6398) 800-325-NeXT or 510-732-3068 direct 510-732-3078 fax bacts!bsime@uunet.uu.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: scott@ee.ucla.edu (Ryan Scott) Subject: Error during boot on black machine Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 16:07:38 GMT X-Nntp-Posting-Host: volta.ee.ucla.edu Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware I have a NeXTstation mono with a 400MB internal HD running NS3.2. When I power up the machine, it goes through the typical startup stuff: Testing system... Loading from disk... After displaying the disk message for about 3 sec. it drops to the ROM monitor with the following error Exception #3 (OxC) at 0x1000374 If I type "bsd" at the prompt it begins the boot process again and successfully completes it. Any ideas on what is causing the error? Thanks in advance, Ryan scott@
From: lnusgmb.nz4jc0@eds.com (Chandra K. Puttanna) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Video Card (ISA/PCI) that works with NeXT 21" Monitor Date: 17 Oct 1996 16:18:00 GMT Organization: EDS Message-ID: <545m7o$klq@maverick.tad.eds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hi! Is there any video card that works with NeXT 21" Monitor. Chandra K. Puttanna
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yoonj@il.us.swissbank.com (Joseph Yoon) Subject: NS 3.3 on UltraSparc with 1GB RAM Message-ID: <1996Oct17.162637.17789@il.us.swissbank.com> Keywords: 3.3 Sparc 1GB Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:26:37 GMT Has anyone run NEXTSTEP 3.3 on Sparc or UltraSparc hardware with 1GB RAM?
From: trombino@wendy.ucsd.edu (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.intel.ipsc310,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.m88k,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mentor,comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New MoneyMaking Method - NO MLM Involved - 5 times better then MLM Date: 17 Oct 1996 17:10:42 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: inet Message-ID: <545pai$po@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <542i01$3g5@dns2.inter.net.il> <32655325.74B5@iesd.auc.dk> [spam deleted] I find it hard to believe that people who spam these newsgroups actually read them. So why do people respond by posting back to the newsgroups, sometimes with the original post quoted in full? Seems to just add more clutter.... -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: Frederik_Haarmann@brown.edu (Frederik Haarmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTSTEP/WindowsNT Graphics Workstation Date: 17 Oct 1996 19:20:18 GMT Organization: Brown University, Providence, RI -- USA Message-ID: <5460ti$moe@cocoa.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Greetings! Here is a NeXTSTEP/Windows NT Graphics Workstation for sale. Manufacturer: S.A.G. Electronics (MA) 120 MHz Pentium processor 32 MB RAM 512 SRAM Cache Triton Chipset 2 GB Micropolis FAST and WIDE SCSI HD (7200RPM) Imagine 128 Graphics Card w/ 4 MB VRAM (128-bit) Sony 4x CD-ROM Drive NANAO T2-17TS 17" Color Monitor (up to 1600x resolution) -many beautiful features, s.a. electronic adjustment for different light sources. Software included: Windows NT 3.51 (plus, IF you are interested, a Windows NT 4.0 Beta version, i.e. Windows 95 interface) Windows 95 Photoshop 3.0 for NT FrameMaker 5 for NT Painter 4 for NT (Fractal Design) Microsoft Office for NT SelectPhone for Windows PLUS PIXAR RENDERMAN (Toy Story etc.) – the complete rendering package built into the NS operating system! Just open a RIB file and render photorealistically. NeXTSTEP User 3.3 AND Developer 3.3 for Intel (the HD has a partition: I use 1.5 GB for NeXTSTEP 3.3 and 500 MB for NT) and the following NeXTSTEP software: Lighthouse Design Wetpaint (newest version=NV) Lighthouse Design OpenWrite (NV) Lighthouse Design Tables (NV) Lighthouse Design VarioData (NV) Lighthouse Design Concurrence (NV) Lighthouse Design Diagram! (NV) Lighthouse Design OmniWeb (NV) Lighthouse Design EquationBuilder (NV) Lighthouse Design ParaSheet (NV) Lighthouse Design Quantrix (NV) Lighthouse Design TaskMaster (NV) AND FrameMaker for NeXTSTEP (NV) – compatible w/ Windows NT FrameMaker 5 SOFTPC (Insignia Software) – emulation of windows w/in NS Create by Stone Design (registered) ALL software is UNREGISTERED (this includes all operating systems too). It is, thus, natively yours upon purchase. All documentation will be included – this means hardware and software, as well as (of course) the mass amounts of utilities which "come together", as it were. The price for this entire setup is $4,000.00 (U.S. of course). If you are interested, would like to see this machine, test it, or would like to discuss price, features, etc. send e-mail to Frederik_Haarmann@brown.edu Best wishes to all, Frederik
From: Frederik_Haarmann@brown.edu (Frederik Haarmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: oops -- sorry folks! Date: 17 Oct 1996 19:22:49 GMT Organization: Brown University, Providence, RI -- USA Message-ID: <546129$moe@cocoa.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII The previous message seems to have gone into the wrong newsgroup. My sincere apologies--it's always annoying when stuff like this pops up! Frederik
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: 17 Oct 1996 20:18:51 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <5464bb$ga9@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> In article <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> devan2m@imap2.asu.edu writes: > ....the error >in capitalization. This was something that I had perused several months >back, but because of the error in capitalization, the reference failed to >register. > >http://www.macworld.com/q/@147781kjmcrx/pages/september.96/extras/vision.html It's nothing new. The mainstream media have always refused to honor proper capitalization of "NeXT" as a matter of policy, whatever that means. But, that web page must be a joke! They start out with "Innovation isn't easy..." and talks about the vision thing. Then, they make it sound like the packaging design by FrogDesign is all there is to innovations and vision for computers, as if that was "the" innovation that NeXT had in the black boxes. Are we going to be led through the era of tail fins all over again? Izumi
From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help .... Date: 17 Oct 1996 20:58:00 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <5466ko$lnt@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> Hi Everyone, I had to read/write to the Parallel Port (LPT1) on my Intel 486 machine running NextStep 3.3. Could you please tell me how do I do it. Thank you very much ... Sanjeev Agarwal sanjeev@isc.umr.edu
From: Joe McCarthy <mccarthy@si87.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Video Card (ISA/PCI) that works with NeXT 21" Monitor Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:03:33 -0700 Organization: Software Integrators Message-ID: <3266BB45.3087@si87.com> References: <545m7o$klq@maverick.tad.eds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Chandra K. Puttanna" <lnusgmb.nz4jc0@eds.com> Chandra K. Puttanna wrote: > > hi! > Is there any video card that works with NeXT 21" Monitor. > Chandra K. Puttanna Yes, our Mercury X2 card will work just fine. Check out our web page our contact me for more info. Joe ************************************************************ * Joe McCarthy | mccarthy@si87.com * * Software Integrators Inc. | 800-547-2349 (toll free) * * 104 East Main Street | 406-586-8866 (voice) * * Suite 206 | 406-586-9145 (fax) * * Bozeman, MT 59715 | 406-586-9610 (bbs) * ************************************************************ * WEB PAGE -> http://www.si87.com * ************************************************************
From: mdadgar@auspex.com (Mark Dadgar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.3 on UltraSparc with 1GB RAM Date: 17 Oct 1996 22:45:30 GMT Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara Message-ID: <546cua$k37@alpha1.auspex.com> References: <1996Oct17.162637.17789@il.us.swissbank.com> In article <1996Oct17.162637.17789@il.us.swissbank.com> yoonj@il.us.swissbank.com (Joseph Yoon) writes: > Has anyone run NEXTSTEP 3.3 on Sparc or UltraSparc hardware with 1GB > RAM? Unforunately, it can't be done. The UltraSPARC is basically an entirely new architecture, and NS would need a port to it to make it work. - Mark -- Mark Dadgar - Systems Engineer - Auspex Systems - http://www.auspex.com mark_dadgar@auspex.com - (408) 986-2429 (office) - (408) 980-0121 (fax) "I had nothing on but the radio" - Marilyn Monroe, on modeling NeXTMail and MIME happily accepted ure whether it is in the public domain or not, at least it's for free. From the README: This is the first public (beta) release of our Wacom Tablet Driver for NEXTSTEP 3.3 FIP. It was developed from scratch to replace the existing Wacom driver developed by Talus Corp. which we used to distribute to our customers which only supported a limited number of older tablets and didn't work under 3.3 anyway. It can be found on ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/NeXT/hardware/driver/Intel/WacomTablet3.36h.b.I.tar.gz > Is Wacom the only brand of tablets compatible with > NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. I've never seen any other. I haven't tried it (I do not own a Wacom tablet), but a friend of mine did. He never managed to get it to work (it was an old tablet with build-in VGA-Screen). But this one didn't even work under DOS/Windows with drivers provided by Wacom, so you shouldn't be too worried. > Bests Regards > George Kafkoulis Hope it works Christian -- Christian Schildwaechter (+49)241-2809- 3(voice/am)/5(fax) Rosstr. 38-40 schildwa@greenHAUS.ros.AC-Net.de (MIME fine) 52064 Aachen/Germany http://greenHAUS.ros.AC-Net.de/~schildwa
From: sk68@cornell.edu (Sung Ho Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: 13W3 cable pinouts... Date: 18 Oct 1996 00:03:01 GMT Organization: Cornell University Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <sk68-0101042340520001@cu-dialup-0049.cit.cornell.edu> Hi, I currently have my ND system hooked up to a Sun monitor, and I also used a "standard" 13W3 cable with an RGB adapter to the monitor. I recently noticed that the 13W3 cable of a ND system at school doesn't have any pins coming out of its cable ends. Mine has all 10 pin coming out from both sides. I was wondering then if these pins do anything significant, or is it just the coax part that does the job? (Or maybe the ND system at school is broken :-<) Sung Ho Kim Cornell University sk68@cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: Scanner Software Message-ID: <3266E44F.4B1@goldengate.net> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:58:39 -0700 Organization: transwarp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (I'm cross posting this because it is software and hardware related) I have a HP 4p as well as a Mustek ScanMaker E3. I am hooking them to a turbo color slab, NS 3.2. The 4p works with Scan-O-Matic. The E3 doesn't work with anything. After spending the $500 on the HP (which I can take back) and $300 for the E3 (which I can take back as well) I really don't want to buy software to make it work. I know, using NeXT sometimes leaves few choices. Scan-O-Matic for $399 (which only works on the 4p) would leave me with a total bill of $900. Whoa. I found some programs on ftp.next.peak.org and ftp.evolution.com for scanning but none work with either of the scanners I have. The Scanmaker 600ZS is a three-pass scanner, thus not compatible with newer models, according to Microtek Tech Support. Can anyone recommend software for scanning on a HP 4p or Microtek Scanmaker E3 that is low-cost (less then $200) or a make/model of scanner to purchase? I can get my money back for these scanners so I can buy whatever I need. If there is no good solution, let me know as well. If I'm whining about the price of everything, maybe let me know in e-mail. :) I appreciate the information--I really want to get this working! Thanks. Later. -- MATT | mailto:invisix@goldengate.net ** living a microsoft ** jurcich | http://www.goldengate.net/~invisix ** free lifestyle ** Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 32MB, 1.5GB, 17" Fimi, NEXTSTEP 3.2
From: peter@pisi.select-tech.si (Peter Levart) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: SPARC4 & 5 with NS3.3 - freezing Date: 17 Oct 1996 21:16:50 GMT Organization: SELECT Technology Message-ID: <5467o2$h1p@ned.select-tech.si> Keywords: sparc, sparc4, sparc5, freezing Hello! Is there anyone who experienced the same problems? We are administering a site with approximately 40 SPARCstation 4s & 5s, running NEXTSTEP 3.3 with 3.3 Patch1 and 3.3 Patch1 Addendum installed (using ImprovedDNS). Machines are equipped with at least 32 Mb of RAM. They have at least 1Gb hard disks with plenty of swapspace. We are observing two problems: 1. A small number of hosts (as far as we have observed, only some SPARCstation 4 machines have this problem) experience unexpected automatic log-outs with a message in the console: Oct 6 20:45:18 zunanja7 loginwindow[393]: bootstrap_register failed -102 2. Virtually all hosts (SPARC 4s & 5s) freeze from time to time (1 or 2 every day). This usually happens during the night, when nobody is using the machines, or during the normal usage. No error messages get logged to /var/adm/messages or /tmp/console.log and it is impossible to reboot a machine after it freezes. The Stop-A combination doesn't work. The machine has to be switched off and on again. - Are the problems hardware or software related? - If they are software related, are there any patches or workarrounds? - If they are software related, can they be eliminated by upgrading to OPENSTEP 4.0? Thank you for your answers. With best regards, Peter Levart -- Peter Levart - SELECT Technology mailto:peter@select-tech.si http://www.select-tech.si phone: +386 61 1319244 fax: +386 61 1315047 Technology mailto:peter@select-tech.si http://www.select-tech.si phone: +386 61 1319244 fax: +386 61 1315047
From: nathan@nai.net (Nathan F. Janette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: NS 3.3 on UltraSparc with 1GB RAM Date: 17 Oct 1996 23:53:47 GMT Organization: North American Internet Message-ID: <546gub$o80@a3bsrv.nai.net> References: <1996Oct17.162637.17789@il.us.swissbank.com> <546cua$k37@alpha1.auspex.com> mdadgar@auspex.com (Mark Dadgar) wrote: > In article <1996Oct17.162637.17789@il.us.swissbank.com> > yoonj@il.us.swissbank.com (Joseph Yoon) writes: > > Has anyone run NEXTSTEP 3.3 on Sparc or UltraSparc hardware with 1GB > > RAM? > > Unforunately, it can't be done. > > The UltraSPARC is basically an entirely new architecture, and NS would > need a port to it to make it work. This is a regrettable situation that forces people in some companies to choose between current NeXT software or current Sun hardware. Care to guess which loses? I'm happy enough that I grabbed the last Sparc20 that arrived at a large client site. All new hardware orders after that have been for Ultra 170E systems, and therefore non-NEXTSTEP systems. What a shame: NeXT loses OS revenue, and users can't enjoy a superior GUI on fast Sun hardware with powerful graphics. I'm happy of course to see the first "release" version of OpenStep/ Solaris, but I knew NeXTstep, I was a friend of NeXTSTEP, and OpenStep/Solaris is no NEXTSTEP (yet...?). Cheers, -Nathan --- Nathan Janette Janette Consulting, Inc. NEXTSTEP & Unix Systems Management and Development Consulting East Haven, CT Internet: nathan@nai.net
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.3 on UltraSparc with 1GB RAM Date: 18 Oct 1996 03:28:10 GMT Organization: US Net, Incorporated Message-ID: <546tga$qt8@news.us.net> References: <1996Oct17.162637.17789@il.us.swissbank.com> yoonj@il.us.swissbank.com (Joseph Yoon) wrote: >Has anyone run NEXTSTEP 3.3 on Sparc or UltraSparc hardware >with 1GB RAM? NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP-Mach does not run on UltraSPARC nor HyperSPARC. Only MicroSPARC II and SuperSPARC (4,5,10,20) are supported. See NeXT's Hardware Compatibility Guide for Sun on NeXTanswers (http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/) for more details. Also, there is a hardwired kernel upper memory limit, something around 256 or 384mb as of NS 3.3. I don't know if it has been bumped up in OS-Mach 4.0. In addition, NS/OS-Mach does not support SMP and at this point will probably never support it... IMHO, Sun servers are only competitive with SMP. Since you've got a gigabyte of RAM specified, you would probably not want to run NS or OS-4.0 on a machine of that caliber anyways... I don't know what application(s) you have in mind, but you probably don't want someone sitting on the console. Run Solaris 2.5, PDO/EOF/WOF/CORBA/whatever for Solaris and use SPARC 4/5 or Intel boxs running NS/OS-Mach as remote clients... that's probably the best utilization of resources. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanner Software Date: 18 Oct 1996 05:16:00 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <5473qg$1l1@news.istar.ca> References: <3266E44F.4B1@goldengate.net> In-Reply-To: <3266E44F.4B1@goldengate.net> On 10/17/96, Matt Jurcich wrote: >After spending the $500 on the HP (which I can take back) and $300 >for the E3 (which I can take back as well) I really don't want to >buy software to make it work. I know, using NeXT sometimes leaves >few choices. Scan-O-Matic for $399 (which only works on the 4p) >would leave me with a total bill of $900. Whoa. I agree that Scan-O-Matic is extremely expensive, even the academic version which I qualify for. (This might have something to do with the fact that the price scale (i.e. cost of living) in Europe is significantly higher than in North America.) For a business, $399 may be a reasonable price for the software, for individuals it is costly. As far as I know, Scan-O-Matic is the only scanning software currently supported in NeXTSTEP. -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -=- jsamson@istar.ca -=- NeXTmail & MIME welcome -===================================================================-
From: YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: 13W3 cable pinouts... Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:42:04 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32671895.52A2@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <sk68-0101042340520001@cu-dialup-0049.cit.cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sung Ho Kim wrote: > > Hi, > > I currently have my ND system hooked up to a Sun monitor, and I also used > a "standard" 13W3 cable with an RGB adapter to the monitor. I recently > noticed that the 13W3 cable of a ND system at school doesn't have any pins > coming out of its cable ends. Mine has all 10 pin coming out from both > sides. I was wondering then if these pins do anything significant, or is > it just the coax part that does the job? (Or maybe the ND system at > school is broken :-<) > > Sung Ho Kim > Cornell University > sk68@cornell.edu I also used 13W3 cable with my SONY 20SE moniter on the NeXT Station color. And You can get the 13W3 cables or info following link. http://www.si87.com/other.html YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, BeBox News and Info)
From: sk68@cornell.edu (Sung Ho Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need SIMMs Date: 18 Oct 1996 08:26:56 GMT Organization: Cornell University Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <sk68-0201040804520001@cu-dialup-0017.cit.cornell.edu> References: <53sini$odg@monet.ICSI.Net> <53trfa$pc9@news.istar.ca> Hi, Remember that you need a ROM version higher than v.63 for the cube to work properly with parity and non-parity SIMMs mixed. In article <53trfa$pc9@news.istar.ca>, jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) wrote: > On 10/13/96 in the group comp.sys.next.hardware you wrote: > >I have a NeXT Cube ('040) and would like to add 16 MB more to my > existing 16 MB of > >RAM. I think what I need is: > > Four SIMMs > > 4 MB each > > 30-pin > > low profile > > non-parity > > 100 nsec > > 60-70 ns, parity SIMMS are still commonly available as this is what > older PC's use. These should work in your cube. NeXT's are pretty > good about using different speed memory and mixing parity and > non-parity memory, just as long as each group of four SIMMS is the > same type. Just be sure to install the parity memory in the lower > SIMM banks (so that the NeXT will detect the parity memory before the > non-parity). I've tried this combination in a NeXTstation and it > works, so I assume as similar configuration will also work on the 040 > Cube. > > -- > -===================================================================- > Jean-Paul C. Samson -=- jsamson@istar.ca -=- NeXTmail & MIME welcome > -===================================================================-
From: sk68@cornell.edu (Sung Ho Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PC monitor on Next? Date: 18 Oct 1996 08:33:40 GMT Organization: Cornell University Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <sk68-0201040811360001@cu-dialup-0017.cit.cornell.edu> References: <543hs3$rvc@decaxp.harvard.edu> Hi, Well, I'm not quite sure about monochrome NeXT computers, but I know color NeXT computers use this 13W3 connection.... this means that you will need to find adapters that can connect a 13W3 cable into a standard (I guess DB15) vga connector. Other than this, you will need a monitor (all good PC monitors can do this) that can do 1280x1024 and with a scan frequency of about 64~72 Hz (if it's multisyncing, that's better). Oh, by the way, monochrome systems use connection that have built-in power, keyboard, and mouse functions, so there I guess you really can't use PC monitors. Hope that helped. Sung Ho Kim Cornell University sk68@cornell.edu In article <543hs3$rvc@decaxp.harvard.edu>, paulg@fas-news.harvard.edu (Paul Guglielmino) wrote: > Can I run a pc (vga connector) monitor on a next? I'm thinking of buying a next but do not know a lot about the differences between models. Is there a faq or similiar source of info on the net? > > Thanks, > Paul > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Paul Guglielmino \|/ Sysadming is a burden, > paulg@law.harvard.edu (o o) not a priviledge. > ------------------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo------= Aaron Marsh =-----
From: "Georg Tuparev" <gtupar@ctp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help for /etc/disktab Date: 18 Oct 1996 10:09:23 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <547l0j$1dj@concorde.ctp.com> Hi NeXTers, I have an old 2GB Fujitsu disk (Model: M2654SA) but without disk info block (or what the hell the stuff is called). Could somebody send me either the disktab entry or the disk information. Thanks alot ------- /\/\ Georg Tuparev <georg_tuparev@ctp.com> / /_ \ Cambridge Technology Partners \ / / Apollo House, Apollolaan 15 \/\/ 1077 AB Amsterdam, The Netherlands Tel: +31(20)575-0492 Fax: +31(20)575-0500
From: ramanan@channel.pnb.sunysb.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ135 SyQuest = Nightmare Date: 16 Oct 1996 14:06:34 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <542q5a$ogb@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961010141049.779A-100000@charisma> <53ojkb$fkl@camel1.mindspring.com> <53pefu$ret@news.istar.ca> <DzALCH.1GF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <Pine.NXT.3.95.961015181402.1193C-100000@charisma> TJL <luomat@nerc.com> writes > unable to use the disk which comes with the Zip drive which was > software-write-protected, and of course the software only worked on > DOS/MAC I believe that there exists a program called "ziptool" that allows Nextstep (intel at least) to modify the ZIP s/w write protection. cheers, !ramanan ramanan@patch.pnb.sunysb.edu
From: kafkouli@fiu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any recommendations for a notebook+LCD panel? Date: 18 Oct 1996 13:32:34 GMT Organization: Florida International University Message-ID: <5480ti$j6s@isis.fiu.edu> Hello Friends Can you recommend an OPENSTEP running notebook and an LCD panel to be used with an overhead projector? It should have at least 32Mb memory, a serial port to be connected with a WACOM tablet and a fast graphics card. Does anyone know what is the max resolution allowed by the LCD panels. Does anyone have any comments about the Twin -Head by Optimal/Deepspace Tech? What is the lowest of the NEC Versa or the IBM laptops which supports color graphics with NEXTSTEP. Best Regards George Kafkoulis
From: schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: 18 Oct 1996 14:25:00 GMT Organization: CU-HSS Program in Biomechanical Engineering Sender: ps17@cornell.edu (Verified) Distribution: world Message-ID: <5483vs$k11@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> <5464bb$ga9@agate.berkeley.edu> Izumi Ohzawa (izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu) wrote: > In article <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> devan2m@imap2.asu.edu writes: >> ....the error >> in capitalization. This was something that I had perused several months >> back, but because of the error in capitalization, the reference failed to >> register. > > It's nothing new. The mainstream media have always refused to honor proper > capitalization of "NeXT" as a matter of policy, whatever that means. You make it sound like a conspiracy! What you refer to as the "proper capitalization" is really simply a logo design. The capitalization in "NeXT" is cute and makes the company name more easily distinguishable from the word with the same spelling, but it is not proper english, and no respectable magazine or journal will follow that capitalization scheme. The policy that they refer to is one to produce their media using correct english, which allows for one capital letter per proper name, i.e. Next, or all caps if it is an acronym, i.e., NEXT. Check out a style manual. You may note that even though "the artist formerly known as Prince" has chosen a symbol as a name, you do not see newspapers and magazines adding that symbol to their type in order to refer to him "properly." -pete
From: kelley@mudpot.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.3 on UltraSparc with 1GB RAM Date: 18 Oct 1996 15:09:10 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <5486im$3co8@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> References: <1996Oct17.162637.17789@il.us.swissbank.com> <546tga$qt8@news.us.net> we've been running NeXTStep since '89 on black boxes, intel machines and HP's. we are migrating to the ultra's (170e's and 140's). we've been running the v1.0 of OpenStep on these since early summer. anyone can pick up the user environment from sun's openstep web site. so far we are pleased w/ the performance and look and feel. it's not EVERYTHING that NeXTSTEP was *yet* but many apps are being ported to openstep/solaris like the lighthouse apps (which sun now owns), stone design apps, mesa, pencil-me-in and probably many more i dont know about. the nice thing is we can run the ported cray f90 compiler under solaris and have our x windoze apps (idl, spyglass) run WHILE having our workspace up as openstep. best of both worlds finally.
From: perkins@cps.msu.edu (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Best Price HW Vendor for PPro upgrade Date: 18 Oct 1996 15:15:43 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5486uv$1008@msunews.cl.msu.edu> I've seen a lot of posts recently regarding PPro performance. I have decided to upgrade to such a motherboard (with PPro 180 or 200). The ASUS P6NP5 seems to have good recommendations. However, the local computer stores are basically clueless. They have motherboards by manufacturers I've never heard of and many said they have never heard of ASUS. If you have recently upgraded (to any board) and have had good experiences, I would appreciate hearing. I'm specifically looking for vendor names/contacts, price point, warranty, service, performance etc... Total compatibility with NeXTSTEP an obvious must. I would expect that I could install the board myself and call them if I had any tech questions. I'd appreciate any comments. I'll summarize if I get enough responses. Thanks in advance, - Steve -- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | mailto:perkins@cps.msu.edu Dept. of Comp. Science | NeXT, MIME, finger for PGP Michigan State University | NeXT OS 3.3 using PPP-2.2 NeXT PPP-2.2 info at http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: 18 Oct 1996 15:45:56 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5488nk$6fg@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> <5464bb$ga9@agate.berkeley.edu> <5483vs$k11@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) wrote: > Izumi Ohzawa (izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu) wrote: > > In article <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> devan2m@imap2.asu.edu writes: > >> ....the error > >> in capitalization. This was something that I had perused several months > >> back, but because of the error in capitalization, the reference failed to > >> register. > > > > It's nothing new. The mainstream media have always refused to honor proper > > capitalization of "NeXT" as a matter of policy, whatever that means. > > What you refer to as the "proper capitalization" is really simply a logo > design. The capitalization in "NeXT" is cute and makes the company name > more easily distinguishable from the word with the same spelling, but it is > not proper english, and no respectable magazine or journal will follow that > capitalization scheme. > > The policy that they refer to is one to produce their media using correct > english, which allows for one capital letter per proper name, i.e. Next, or > all caps if it is an acronym, i.e., NEXT. Check out a style manual. I don't know what publications you consider "respectable", but a check with several trade mags (e.g., _UNIX Review_, _Information Week_) suggests that they aren't "respectable" using your definition. A quick check reveals "CompuServe", "SecureBuy", "FedEx", "PowerShip", "ARCserve", "ActiveX", "TransQuest", "AViiON", etc., etc. None of these are "proper English" - they are all trade names like "NeXT". Referring to any of these trade names using different capitalization or spelling is simply incorrect. No respectable magazine or journal would purposely print incorrect trade names. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: wgaboria@iut-lr.univ-lr.fr (wilfrid Gaboriaud) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP DJ 1600CM Date: 18 Oct 1996 17:53:10 GMT Organization: Universite de La Rochelle Message-ID: <548g66$26g@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> Hello, can somebody tell me where to find a driver for the HP DJ 1600CM printer ? Many thanks wgaboria@iut-lr.univ-lr.fr
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 21" Monitors on slabs Date: 18 Oct 1996 18:08:29 GMT Organization: Suite Software Message-ID: <548h2t$s42@news.onramp.net> References: <32647BA6.42DC@goldengate.net> Cc: invisix@goldengate.net Matt Jurcich wrote: > I assume it is safe to set a 21" monitor (weights 90 pounds) on a > slab. The case seems incredibly sturdy, but I thought I would > check. I've got a 17" NeXT Fimi on it now, but I want to put my > NEC XP21 on there, naturally. :) I've see it done without problems. -- Steve Dekorte - OpenStep Developer - Anaheim, CA "Fundamentalism isn't about religion. It's about power." - S. Rushdie
From: dekorte@suite.com (Steve Dekorte) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Aptiva Date: 18 Oct 1996 18:09:46 GMT Organization: Suite Software Message-ID: <548h5a$s42@news.onramp.net> Anyone gotten NeXTstep running on an Aptiva S series? Comments? Steve Dekorte
From: jalberts@juergen.dart.de (Juergen Albertsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: JAZ drive under NeXTstep / OpenStep Date: 15 Oct 1996 15:15:41 GMT Organization: DART Software GmbH Message-ID: <5409qt$9ff@ns.dart.de> Hello out there, please excuse me if there was already an answer to my question, but it's the first time I read this news group. I'm currently wondering if I should buy myself a JAZ drive for the SCSI-bus and I would like to know if it runs under either NeXTstep 3.3 or OpenStep 4.0 (for Mach, of course). There are rumours that the drive is SyQuest compatible -- is it true? If anybody heard of such a drive running under the operating systems mentioned above or even runs it himself, please report! Thanks in advance, --- Juergen Albertsen DART Software GmbH _______________________________________________________ Juergen Albertsen <jalberts@dart.de> DART Software GmbH Virchowstr. 17-19 22767 Hamburg Germany Tel: (+49) 40 / 380 23-0 Fax: (+49) 40 / 380 23-290 _______________________________________________________
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: 18 Oct 1996 19:51:38 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <548n4a$mvi@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> <5464bb$ga9@agate.berkeley.edu> <5483vs$k11@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) wrote: > You may note that even though "the artist formerly known as > Prince" has chosen a symbol as a name, you do not see newspapers > and magazines adding that symbol to their type in order to refer > to him "properly." Although there is a &formerlyprince; in the new HTML spec, which sort of amused me. I've also noticed a few print references to Diana as "the woman formerly known as Princess". Theory is when you |==================================================== have ideas; ideology is | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu when ideas have you. |====================================================
From: devan2m@imap2.asu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: 18 Oct 1996 21:46:56 GMT Organization: Arizona State University Distribution: world Message-ID: <548tsg$ivb@news.asu.edu> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> <5464bb$ga9@agate.berkeley.edu> <5483vs$k11@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <5488nk$6fg@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> Thank you Art for pointing this out. I was about to when I saw that you did a wonderful job at showing the flaw in this post. I will also add that I did listen in on meetings and events by major companies and publications where there was a conscious and specifically targeted effort to FUD NeXT and Steve Jobs in order not to allow him to get this product which was way ahead of where they were or had investors who were and to not allow Jobs to repeat. Kind Regards- Art Isbell (aisbell@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) wrote: : > Izumi Ohzawa (izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu) wrote: : > > In article <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> devan2m@imap2.asu.edu writes: : > >> ....the error : > >> in capitalization. This was something that I had perused several months : > >> back, but because of the error in capitalization, the reference failed : to : > >> register. : > > : > > It's nothing new. The mainstream media have always refused to honor : proper : > > capitalization of "NeXT" as a matter of policy, whatever that means. : > : > What you refer to as the "proper capitalization" is really simply a logo : > design. The capitalization in "NeXT" is cute and makes the company name : > more easily distinguishable from the word with the same spelling, but it is : > not proper english, and no respectable magazine or journal will follow that : > capitalization scheme. : > : > The policy that they refer to is one to produce their media using correct : > english, which allows for one capital letter per proper name, i.e. Next, or : > all caps if it is an acronym, i.e., NEXT. Check out a style manual. : I don't know what publications you consider "respectable", but a check : with several trade mags (e.g., _UNIX Review_, _Information Week_) suggests : that they aren't "respectable" using your definition. A quick check reveals : "CompuServe", "SecureBuy", "FedEx", "PowerShip", "ARCserve", "ActiveX", : "TransQuest", "AViiON", etc., etc. None of these are "proper English" - they : are all trade names like "NeXT". : Referring to any of these trade names using different capitalization or : spelling is simply incorrect. No respectable magazine or journal would : purposely print incorrect trade names. : -- : Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com : Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 : CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 : managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: "James W. Martin III" <jwm3@jwm3.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:37:29 -0400 Organization: JWM3, Inc. Message-ID: <326830D9.25E718A6@jwm3.org> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> <5464bb$ga9@agate.berkeley.edu> <5483vs$k11@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <548n4a$mvi@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joshua W. Burton wrote: > > schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) wrote: > > > You may note that even though "the artist formerly known as > > Prince" has chosen a symbol as a name, you do not see newspapers > > and magazines adding that symbol to their type in order to refer > > to him "properly." > > Although there is a &formerlyprince; in the new HTML spec, which > sort of amused me. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ HAHAHAHAHAHA GOod one :) -j!M
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanner Software Date: 19 Oct 1996 00:53:57 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-d-08.usc.edu Message-ID: <5498r5$rc8@usc.edu> References: <3266E44F.4B1@goldengate.net> <5473qg$1l1@news.istar.ca> Cc: jsamson@istar.ca In <5473qg$1l1@news.istar.ca> Jean-Paul C. Samson wrote: > As far as I know, Scan-O-Matic is the only scanning software currently > supported in NeXTSTEP. I'm pretty sure GSCorp is selling their own scanning software. Don't know the cost, tho. But they're dealing with the cost of living in the USA - by no means something to cough at. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k :: NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JAZ drive under NeXTstep / OpenStep Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:30:38 -0700 Organization: The NeXT FTP site at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961018202642.14616A-100000@kira> References: <5409qt$9ff@ns.dart.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Juergen Albertsen <jalberts@juergen.dart.de> In-Reply-To: <5409qt$9ff@ns.dart.de> The JAZ drive will work under NS 3.3 and presumably 4.x also (no reason to think it wouldn't). You will need a disktab, but someone has already done that, try: http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ns-disktab/ I don't know what you mean by "SyQuest compatible" If you mean is it a Wincester drive, then yes; if you mean can it read SyQuest disks, then no Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator PEAK FTP Site General FTP area: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next Submissions: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/submissions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: Re: 21" Monitors on slabs-Thanks Message-ID: <3268953C.41C6@goldengate.net> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 01:45:48 -0700 References: <32647BA6.42DC@goldengate.net> <548h2t$s42@news.onramp.net> Organization: transwarp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Dekorte wrote: > > Matt Jurcich wrote: > > I assume it is safe to set a 21" monitor (weights 90 pounds) on a > > slab. The case seems incredibly sturdy, but I thought I would > > check. I've got a 17" NeXT Fimi on it now, but I want to put my > > NEC XP21 on there, naturally. :) > > I've see it done without problems. > Thanks for all who responded on the subject. I have my XP21 resting happily on my turbo color slab. BTW, the NEC XP21's work great on black hardware with the 13W3 to BNC adapters....! -- MATT | mailto:invisix@goldengate.net ** living a microsoft ** jurcich | http://www.goldengate.net/~invisix ** free lifestyle ** Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 32MB, 1.5GB, 17" Fimi, NEXTSTEP 3.2
From: kkwan@cs.hku.hk (Kelvin Kwan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JAZ drive under NeXTstep / OpenStep Date: 19 Oct 1996 09:10:24 GMT Organization: Department of Computer Science, The University of Hong Kong Message-ID: <54a5u0$hnj@hkusuc.hku.hk> References: <5409qt$9ff@ns.dart.de> Juergen Albertsen (jalberts@juergen.dart.de) wrote: : I'm currently wondering if I should buy myself a JAZ drive : for the SCSI-bus and I would like to know if it runs : under either NeXTstep 3.3 or OpenStep 4.0 (for Mach, of : course). There are rumours that the drive is SyQuest : compatible -- is it true? Yes, it does work. I used it under NS3.3, and I use it under OS4.0 now. You'll need a disktab entry. One is available in NeXTansers, and also at the NS disktab site at http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ns-disktab/. What exactly do you mean by "SyQuest compatible"? However, I don't think you *should* buy it. For a little more, get the SyQuest SyJet. It's bigger (1.3G vs. 1.0G) and a little faster. You don't need a disktab entry. It just works (TM). -Kelvin
From: dwy@mcny.com (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.3 on UltraSparc with 1GB RAM Date: 19 Oct 1996 17:13:09 GMT Organization: Media Connection of New York, Inc. Message-ID: <54b275$s12@alice.walrus.com> References: <1996Oct17.162637.17789@il.us.swissbank.com> <546tga$qt8@news.us.net> <5486im$3co8@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> kelley@mudpot.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu wrote: : so far we are pleased w/ the performance and look and : feel. it's not EVERYTHING that NeXTSTEP was *yet* but : many apps are being ported to openstep/solaris like : the lighthouse apps (which sun now owns), stone design : apps, mesa, pencil-me-in and probably many more i : dont know about. It takes about an Ultra 1 to get the performance of a TurboColor using Solaris OpenStep. It's slow, slow, slow. Of course, if you figure the Ultra 1 is about $14k, which is about what a TurboColor was new... : the nice thing is we can run the ported cray f90 : compiler under solaris and have our x windoze apps : (idl, spyglass) run WHILE having our workspace up as : openstep. best of both worlds finally. Yeah, having Solaris apps is nice. I wish oswm handled coexisting OS and X apps more smoothly though; legacy X apps look so ugly on a WM desktop. I don't suppose anything could be done about this. Sun's purchase of Lighthouse shows a pretty serious commitment to Solaris OpenStep as a user and developer environment. I suspect it'll be much more interesting in the next six months to a year. -- # david young: network engineer+oop developer # net: dwy@mcny.com, dwy@ace.net (NeXTmail ok) web: http://www.ace.net/ # vox: 212.686.3845 201.798.5217 fax: 212.686.3856
From: jridgley@nfld.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: USB (Universal Serical Bus) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 09:41:22 GMT Organization: Compusult Limited, St. John's, NF, Canada Message-ID: <54b31p$s4f@hobbes.compusult.nf.ca> The USB, as far as I know is due to be out in late 1996 or early 1997. Does anyone have any better info or comments on these. I am thinking of purchasing a new system and I am trying to find out more about the Universal Serial Bus availability and if it is worth holding off my purchase until it is available. Will this be an easy an inexpensive upgrade to an existing Pentium board. Will this impact the price significantly or not? Appreciate any comments in this regard. -- Jim Ridgley Newfoundland, Canada jridgley@nfld.com
From: jridgley@nfld.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MMX Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 10:04:25 GMT Organization: Compusult Limited, St. John's, NF, Canada Message-ID: <54b4cu$sq7@hobbes.compusult.nf.ca> Does anyone have any info on the new MMX, is this available yet? If not, when is it due to be out and will it be significant in price? Will a Pentium or Pentium Pro be available to upgrade to MMX and will this represent a small or significant cost? Appreciate any info in this regard as I am looking to purchase a new system. -- Jim Ridgley Newfoundland, Canada jridgley@nfld.com
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: OPENSTEP Solaris 1.1 Was:Re: NS 3.3 on UltraSparc with 1GB RAM Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:37:29 -0500 Organization: Illinois State University- Instructional Technology Services Message-ID: <32696520.5E05@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <1996Oct17.162637.17789@il.us.swissbank.com> <546cua$k37@alpha1.auspex.com> <546gub$o80@a3bsrv.nai.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathan F. Janette wrote: > What a shame: NeXT loses OS revenue, and users can't enjoy a > superior GUI on fast Sun hardware with powerful graphics. I'm > happy of course to see the first "release" version of OpenStep/ > Solaris, but I knew NeXTstep, I was a friend of NeXTSTEP, and > OpenStep/Solaris is no NEXTSTEP (yet...?). Solaris OPENSTEP 1.1 is now in beta, I just recieved the announcement days ago... -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ASCII, MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ytalk:eadubie@138.87.201.11 Instructional Technology Services- Illinois State University "Intelligence is the ultimate aphrodisiac." - Dr. Timothy Leary ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: 21" Monitors on slabs Message-ID: <DzJK0x.1BH@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32647BA6.42DC@goldengate.net> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:07:45 GMT In article <32647BA6.42DC@goldengate.net> Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> writes: > Hey there, > > I assume it is safe to set a 21" monitor (weights 90 pounds) on a > slab. The case seems incredibly sturdy, but I thought I would > check. I've got a 17" NeXT Fimi on it now, but I want to put my > NEC XP21 on there, naturally. :) > No need to worry as long as you don't drop it from more than two feet ;-) P.S.: This is written on a TurboColor with a 21" screen sittin' on top. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Black Color Turbo, System test failed HELP please !! Message-ID: <DzJKA3.1C7@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <325E8BCC.15E2@webcom.no> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:13:15 GMT In article <325E8BCC.15E2@webcom.no> Stein Onsrud <stein@webcom.no> writes: > Hello all. > > I have a SERIOUS problem with my NeXT ColorStation Turbo. > When i boot the machine it says. > Testing system, then: System test failed. > I hope it is the ROM Chip. > You should boot in verbose mode. Type Command-Command-~ and the when the boot prompt appears type 'bsd'. The console screen should give you a much better idea what's going on. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Fail to initialize 2.GB seagate hard drive Message-ID: <DzJKuC.1D0@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <540fr3$rqo@newstand.syr.edu> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:25:24 GMT In article <540fr3$rqo@newstand.syr.edu> bhu@top.cis.syr.edu (Bing Hu) writes: > Hi! I purchased one 2GB Seagate drive, > And when I tried to initialize the drive, it failed. I am running > NeXT step 3.2 on black turbo. The disk drive is recognized during > boot, and I even be able to name it ( and the name is readable when > I move the drive to another machine , try to initialize there). Yet > Initialization alaws fails. I set target 3 or 4 which is free. > Please help. > Make sure the Seagate is running in asych mode! It seems to me that I've heard about the later Seagates that they don't support asych any more. But I might be wrong about this. BTW, I successfully run a newer Fujitsu model. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Simms for NeXT Colour Turbo? Message-ID: <DzJLH9.1EI@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <545gpn$hd0@zephyrus.coventry.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:39:09 GMT In article <545gpn$hd0@zephyrus.coventry.ac.uk> ccx009@coventry.ac.uk (Adam Bentley) writes: > Simple question, > what SIMMS will be suitable for a NeXTStation Mono Turbo? > Someone stole the memory from it... ;-( Any kind of PS2 (72 pin / 70 ns or faster). You need them in pairs of equal size. The larger ones have to sit next to the power supply. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX Date: 20 Oct 1996 04:23:48 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-g-08.usc.edu Message-ID: <54c9gk$hg@usc.edu> References: <54b4cu$sq7@hobbes.compusult.nf.ca> Cc: jridgley@nfld.com In <54b4cu$sq7@hobbes.compusult.nf.ca> jridgley@nfld.com wrote: > Does anyone have any info on the new MMX, is this available yet? > If not, when is it due to be out and will it be significant in price? > > Will a Pentium or Pentium Pro be available to upgrade to MMX and > will this represent a small or significant cost? > > Appreciate any info in this regard as I am looking to purchase a new > system. What's MMX? -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k :: NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 06:23:00 GMT Organization: UBC Message-ID: <326ac52c.8997879@news.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <54b4cu$sq7@hobbes.compusult.nf.ca> <54c9gk$hg@usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The newer Asus T2P4 (rev 3.0 +) supports MMX and 75Mhz system Bus Matt, MMX is a Intel gimmick.. they added 57 new instructions to the x86 chipset repackaged it.. and called it MMX.. it speeds up mostly applications that USES multimedia exstensively AND is COMPILED for the MMX apps.... Seems to be combating the revving up of PowerPCs... (Apple is into similiar thing but uses Phillips Trimedia VWIW processor) Godwin On 20 Oct 1996 04:23:48 GMT, reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote: >In <54b4cu$sq7@hobbes.compusult.nf.ca> jridgley@nfld.com >wrote: >> Does anyone have any info on the new MMX, is this >available yet? >> If not, when is it due to be out and will it be significant >in price? >> >> Will a Pentium or Pentium Pro be available to upgrade >to MMX and >> will this represent a small or significant cost? >> >> Appreciate any info in this regard as I am looking to >purchase a new >> system. > >What's MMX? >
From: rencsok@channelu.com (Randy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can ISDN Extender do full 128KB? Date: 20 Oct 1996 07:33:30 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <54ckka$1ato@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <53mgbd$dgr@news.jf.intel.com> <3262D06B.10A6@mpr.ca> <Pine.NXT.3.95.961015174923.1193A-100000@charisma> Cc: luomat@nerc.com In <Pine.NXT.3.95.961015174923.1193A-100000@charisma> "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Scott Mewett wrote: > > > As far as I know you can only use the ISDN extender with NS 3.0. The > > Phone Kit was not included with later releases of the OS. I don't know a > > lot about programming but from what i understand, something change in > > 3.1 that rendered the Phone Kit unusable and I guess that NeXT did want > > to spend the time on redoing the Phone Kit. I posted a question in > > c.s.n.programmer last week asking if anyone knew what it would take to > > get it to work.I still haven't gotten any responses. > > Someone who was really interested might see if it was as simple as the > shlib change on 3.0 to 3.[123]. They might go into the phone kit and > change /usr/shlib/whatever to /usr/shlib/samechar and take the shlib > from 3.0 and put it at /usr/shlib/samechar. Far superior is to create /3.0/shlib/ and dump all the 3.0 libs in there then change /usr/shlib/whatever to /3.0/shlib/whatever. It's cleaner and you don't have to rename libs.. > NOTE: the path "/usr/shlib/whatever" and "/usr/shlib/samechar" would > have to be exactly the same number of characters! > > This might not be legal, and I certainly wouldn't suggest it if it > is... just observing that someone might try that if they were > interested. Well if you have a legal copy of 3.0, and 3.x I don't see why this would be illegal at all. And I'm about to try it.. But I don't have a NT1 or ISDN line to do serious testing with this. Also I really would like a firm confirmation from anyone who knows whether the ISDN extender (the little box, not the big one) can do 128Kb. I'm pretty sure you only can get 64Kb on one B channel. The problem with this whole ISDN extender thing is that you need to get a NT1 to do anything (unless I'm mistaken.. Would love to be proved wrong) which costs roughly 200-400 depending.. For this and the price of ISDN extender (not to mention hassles making it work) and my presumption that ISDN box can only do 56 or 64Kb I think the ISDN extender is pretty much a waste of time. I have one, and if I can get PhoneKit to work under 3.3 along with the libs it might just be worth something. IF the above works and one wanted to work up a phone messaging system now that might be interesting.. (But you'd probably have to have a boot partition with 3.0 to make development easier and then change the binaries as above) Alternatively I hear MIX is selling a good phone solution for roughly $500.. As for a data solution someone would have to work up a driver for ppp and want to connect with single B channel only. The high price of NT1 is what makes everything above kind of a waste of effort. Especially when one can get something like a Ascend Pipeline, or go for linux/PC/ISDN card solution. So is all this worth it? Randy
From: devan2m@imap2.asu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX Date: 20 Oct 1996 07:47:18 GMT Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <54cle6$163@news.asu.edu> References: <54b4cu$sq7@hobbes.compusult.nf.ca> <54c9gk$hg@usc.edu> This is something that is being discussed in any number of other newsgroups like Intel's and comp.arch. For further information on this, there isquite a bit of information at Intel's Web Site. You can also search the following for references: http://search3.zdnet.com/plweb-cgi/topsearch/topsearch.pl http://www.pcworld.com/tipnews Briefly, I would say that MMX is Intel's first effort to catch up with the CPU designs done by those who traditionally designed workstation archs, i.e. Sun, HP, etc. Good Luck! Matthew N. Reichman (reichman@usc.edu) wrote: : In <54b4cu$sq7@hobbes.compusult.nf.ca> jridgley@nfld.com : wrote: : > Does anyone have any info on the new MMX, is this : available yet? : > If not, when is it due to be out and will it be significant : in price? : > : > Will a Pentium or Pentium Pro be available to upgrade : to MMX and : > will this represent a small or significant cost? : > : > Appreciate any info in this regard as I am looking to : purchase a new : > system. : What's MMX? : -- : Be well, : Matthew Reichman : <reichman@usc.edu> : NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k :: NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome : PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" : Computer Privacy Information --> : http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Exchange Mac modem cable to NeXT Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:43:50 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <3269F42A.12AA@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have a general Macintosh modem cable with external USRobotics modem. And I going to use the modem cable to my slab. How can I make the NeXT modem cable of it? Please let me know Thanks, YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, BeBox News and Info)
From: Nate Hurst <nhurst@eai.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FRADs and Black hardware Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 12:38:18 -0500 Organization: Engineering Animation Message-ID: <326A6389.41C6@eai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Opinions? Answers? Has anyone successfully used an FRAD and black hardware? If so I would be very interested in hearing about it. I am especially wondering about the use of the serial port FRADs. Will these work with the hardware? I would rather have an ethernet FRAD, but is it worth the price? I suppose it is since I believe the max speed of my Turbo's serial is 56K. Just in case I would upgrade to T1 in the future. :) Thanks nate -- nhurst@eai.com Nate Hurst, Production Programmer Engineering Animation Inc., 2321 N Loop Dr., Ames IA 50010 Phone: (515) 296-9908
From: dchan@dchan.earthlink.net (Derek Chan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX Date: 20 Oct 1996 18:30:06 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <54dr3e$lfa@guyana.earthlink.net> References: <54b4cu$sq7@hobbes.compusult.nf.ca> <54c9gk$hg@usc.edu> <54cle6$163@news.asu.edu> Cc: devan2m@imap2.asu.edu Another good source of information is the article in this months Byte magazine: http://www.byte.com/art/9610/sec6/art3.htm In <54cle6$163@news.asu.edu> devan2m@imap2.asu.edu wrote: > This is something that is being discussed in any number of other > newsgroups like Intel's and comp.arch. For further information on this, > there isquite a bit of information at Intel's Web Site. You can also > search the following for references: > > http://search3.zdnet.com/plweb-cgi/topsearch/topsearch.pl > http://www.pcworld.com/tipnews > > Briefly, I would say that MMX is Intel's first effort to catch up with > the CPU designs done by those who traditionally designed workstation > archs, i.e. Sun, HP, etc. > > > Good Luck! > > > Matthew N. Reichman (reichman@usc.edu) wrote: > : In <54b4cu$sq7@hobbes.compusult.nf.ca> jridgley@nfld.com > : wrote: > : > Does anyone have any info on the new MMX, is this > : available yet? > : > If not, when is it due to be out and will it be significant > : in price? > : > > : > Will a Pentium or Pentium Pro be available to upgrade > : to MMX and > : > will this represent a small or significant cost? > : > > : > Appreciate any info in this regard as I am looking to > : purchase a new > : > system. > > : What's MMX? > > : -- > : Be well, > > : Matthew Reichman > : <reichman@usc.edu> > : NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k :: NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome > : PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" > : Computer Privacy Information --> > : http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/ > > -- dchan@earthlink.net (NextMail or MIME - o.k.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <invisix@goldengate.net> Subject: Re: [Q] Exchange Mac modem cable to NeXT Message-ID: <326A9AB6.167E@goldengate.net> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 14:33:42 -0700 References: <3269F42A.12AA@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Organization: transwarp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit YoungHoon Kil wrote: > > Hello, > > I have a general Macintosh modem cable with external USRobotics modem. > And I going to use the modem cable to my slab. > How can I make the NeXT modem cable of it? > Please let me know Hey there, I recently purchased by turbo color slab, so I also bought a Mac modem cable from the local computer superstore. The box for the cable said that it was wired to do hardware flow control and it seems to work. You might want to check the FAQ's, but if your cable can do hardware flow control, I believe you will be fine-- no modifications will be needed to connect that modem/cable to your NeXT. HTH. Later. -- MATT | mailto:invisix@goldengate.net ** living a microsoft ** jurcich | http://www.goldengate.net/~invisix ** free lifestyle ** Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 32MB, 1.5GB, 17" Fimi, NEXTSTEP 3.2
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: is this is modem or the CPU? Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 13:23:03 -0700 Organization: The NeXT FTP site at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961020132011.26528A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII the following messages occurred in my console.log with no other information. non volatile memory checksum wrong non volatile readback error! non volatile memory checksum wrong they came all at the same time.... Since they had no system information with them I assume they were some weird little modem anomoly, and not something like my slab's CPU about to explode.... It seems to have just happened the one time, but I wanted to ask... TjL
From: cchris@tuna.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP with optical drive Date: 20 Oct 1996 21:23:20 GMT Organization: Hooked Online Services Message-ID: <54e589$rt6@its.hooked.net> Greetings, I am trying to repair a flaky optical drive in my NeXT cube. The drive spins up and down repeatedly. Ocassionally it will mount and seems to read and write data ok. I have thoroughly cleaned the inside of the drive including the lens as suggested in the NeXT FAQ. This seemed to make no difference. Any suggestions? Has anyone out there had experience repairing these drives? I noticed the lens is loose in its housing. Is this normal? Thanks for any help Chris <cchris@hooked.net>
From: rencsok@channelu.com (Randy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PhoneConnector from 3.0 on 3.x anyone?! Date: 20 Oct 1996 22:26:55 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <54e8vf$nj9@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <53mgbd$dgr@news.jf.intel.com> <3262D06B.10A6@mpr.ca> <Pine.NXT.3.95.961015174923.1193A-100000@charisma> <54ckka$1ato@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In <54ckka$1ato@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Randy wrote: > In <Pine.NXT.3.95.961015174923.1193A-100000@charisma> "Timothy J. Luoma" > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Scott Mewett wrote: > > > > > As far as I know you can only use the ISDN extender with NS 3.0. The > > > Phone Kit was not included with later releases of the OS. I don't know a > > > lot about programming but from what i understand, something change in > > > 3.1 that rendered the Phone Kit unusable and I guess that NeXT did want > > > to spend the time on redoing the Phone Kit. I posted a question in > > > c.s.n.programmer last week asking if anyone knew what it would take to > > > get it to work.I still haven't gotten any responses. > > > > Someone who was really interested might see if it was as simple as the > > shlib change on 3.0 to 3.[123]. They might go into the phone kit and > > change /usr/shlib/whatever to /usr/shlib/samechar and take the shlib > > from 3.0 and put it at /usr/shlib/samechar. > > Far superior is to create /3.0/shlib/ and dump all the 3.0 libs in there > then change /usr/shlib/whatever to /3.0/shlib/whatever. It's cleaner > and you don't have to rename libs.. > > > NOTE: the path "/usr/shlib/whatever" and "/usr/shlib/samechar" would > > have to be exactly the same number of characters! > > > > This might not be legal, and I certainly wouldn't suggest it if it > > is... just observing that someone might try that if they were > > interested. I usually don't follow up my posts but I figured anyone who had some reason to want to use PhoneConnector (and perhaps PhoneManager but I'd add the netinfo entries by hand) here is what I did to get things going (whether these modifications will work or not in terms of estabilishing a connection I can't say.. Also I take no responsibility if anything disasterous happens to your system). Things you will need: (a) 3.0 CD (or the following files/apps off the 3.0 CD) i /NextAdmin/PhoneConnector.app ii /NextAdmin/PhoneManager.app iii /usr/shlib/libphone_s.A.shlib vi /usr/lib/phone/PhoneServer v /usr/lib/kern_loader/Phone/ ipserv_reloc ipserv_reloc_loadable isdn_reloc isdn_reloc_loadable (b) Hexi.app (should be on the archives) (c) root access (1) Log in as root. (2) Create a directory /3.0 and subdirectories /3.0/lib/NextStep, /3.0/shlib and /3.0/Apps (3) From your 3.0 CD drag PhoneConnector.app and PhoneManager.app into /3.0/Apps (4) From 3.0 CD /usr/lib/NextStep drag authserver.app to /3.0/lib/NextStep (5) From 3.0 CD /usr/shlib copy libphone_s.A.shlib to /3.0/shlib (6) From 3.0 CD /usr/lib drag phone directory to /usr/lib (there is no phone directory in 3.3 or 3.2 (not sure about 3.1)) (7) From 3.0 CD /usr/lib/kern_loader drag directory Phone to /usr/lib/kern_loader (one needs the kernel servers there idsn, and ipserv) (8) In a terminal window cd /etc cp kern_loader.conf kern_loader.conf.bak Now in your favorite editor edit kern_loader.conf to look like this: Origional file on my Dimension system. kern_loader.conf /usr/lib/kern_loader/Midi/mididriver_reloc /usr/lib/kern_loader/Midi/midi_reloc_2.0 /usr/lib/NextStep/Displays/NeXTdimension.psdrvr/ND_MachDriver_reloc (If you don't have a Dimension the last line will probably be missing in yours) Modified kern_loader.conf /usr/lib/kern_loader/Midi/mididriver_reloc /usr/lib/kern_loader/Midi/midi_reloc_2.0 /usr/lib/kern_loader/Phone/isdn_reloc /usr/lib/kern_loader/Phone/ipserv_reloc /usr/lib/NextStep/Displays/NeXTdimension.psdrvr/ND_MachDriver_reloc As you can see I added the lines relating to starting the relocatable kernel servers for ipserv, and isdn. Save kern_loader.conf (9) Startup Hexi.app and load in /3.0/Apps/PhoneConnector.app/PhoneConnector Search for /usr/shlib (a) At 0x934 you should see /usr/shlib change /usr/shlib to be /3.0/shlib for only this lib. /usr/shlib/libphone_s.A.shlib Search for /usr/lib (a) At 0xba91 and 0xbadd you should see /usr/lib/NextStep/authserver.app Change /usr/lib/NextStep/authserver.app to /3.0/lib/NextStep/authserver.app Save the modified binary. At this point I rebooted to get the kernel servers to start. One could just start them up by hand by doing something like (I'm not sure this is exactly correct so just follow the above and reboot.. Make sure your ISDN extender is connected) /usr/etc/kl_util -a /usr/lib/kern_loader/Phone/ipserv_reloc > /dev/console 2>&1 /usr/etc/kl_util -a /usr/lib/kern_loader/Phone/isdn_reloc > /dev/console 2>&1 I opted to stick them in /etc/kern_loader.conf and reboot.. At this point since I don't have a NT1, or ISDN line when I try to establish a connection I get the following error (which I think(?) indicates I don't have NT1 or ISDN line attached). This error is the same under 3.3 as 3.0 so I've gotten as far as I can w/o NT1, or ISDN line to play with. isdn: Starting client thread Oct 20 17:47:55 pm169-01 syslog: DAA TEST FAILED - Board not attached or network not responding Oct 20 17:47:55 pm169-01 syslog: hardwareFailure Then PhoneConnector hangs for about 20-30 sec and I get a panel that says Hardware Failure (OK!) and when I hit OK the app crashes (as it does in 3.0). The rest of the messages from console says. Oct 20 17:57:05 pm169-01 syslog: PhoneServer: Unable to get multiframe Oct 20 17:57:05 pm169-01 PhoneConnector[5562]: NXPhone: Unable to establish connection Oct 20 17:57:05 pm169-01 PhoneConnector[5562]: PhoneConnector - Couldn't connect to the PhoneServer interesting_port_gone: port gone, 4356 interesting_port_gone: port gone, 3842 kill_threads interesting_port_gone: port gone, 3587 interesting_port_gone: port gone, 3074 interesting_port_gone: port gone, 4609 (3)isdn_var.flags.terminating==1 interesting_port_gone: port gone, 4610 ipserv_port_gone: port (3586) != owner_port (3331) ipserv_port_gone: port (3074) != owner_port (0) All of this is idential to what I get under 3.0. At this point I started reading the documentation in 3.0 on the PhoneKit in NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/GeneralRef/13_PhoneKit and NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/11_MixedNet/04_ISDN.rtfd Also I started up PhoneManager but was a little leary about using PhoneManager.app written under 3.0 to modify netinfo under 3.3. If you look with Hexi.app at PhoneManager (the executable binary) you'll see that it uses the libni_s.A.shlib (netinfo library). It would probably work fine assuming netinfo calls havn't changed much. I've worked to hard getting my netinfo correct to not want to deal with PhoneManager hosing everything. Yes I could tar up /etc/netinfo or all of /etc if I'm paranoid, or backup completely if I'm even more paranoid but I just didn't allow it to save anything. And I would encourage anyone who is going to really mess with this who has NT1 and ISDN line to do so. Also I would encourage reading of the above files in 3.0 to get a feeling what Netinfo should look like. But this should get anyone going who wants to mess with this at all. > Well if you have a legal copy of 3.0, and 3.x I don't see why this > would be illegal at all. And I'm about to try it.. But I don't have > a NT1 or ISDN line to do serious testing with this. > > Also I really would like a firm confirmation from anyone who knows > whether the ISDN extender (the little box, not the big one) can do > 128Kb. I'm pretty sure you only can get 64Kb on one B channel. A note here. When I look at the docs for the PhoneKit I see support for two B channels and 1 D channel along with Pots support. But I'm still not sure this applies to the ISDN extender or not. Check out the header files for the phone kit also.. I thought I remembered MST ppp having support for Hayes boxes but it turns out it was only for the Hayes System Adapter (this is a different box than the Extender) and the speed was either 56K or 64K (not 128K). I would appreciate it if anyone has a review of the Hayes ISDN extender or more information to e-mail me info. I intend to call Hayes US to find out if one can get any of the technical info on the box, and what speeds the ports support (I remember hearing 64K on single ISDN B channel, and 2400 on the POTS line). There were claims that the extender could also handle doing voice mail, but I suspect someone would have to write some code to do this.. (It would be nice though if it could work) I searched through my various NeXT magazines for info with no sucess. One last thing as far as I can tell there is no drivers anywhere to use the ISDN Extender for ppp. With PhoneConnector one would need two Extender boxes, two NT1's, two ISDN lines with two NeXT computers to be able to utilize PhoneConnector to link into a network. Unless someone can figure out how to program a device driver that would create a isdn port that one could hook ppp into. I expect this would be very time consuming though, and not many would want or need it. Randy PS. Anyone who is really interested in this can e-mail me directly.
From: hansen@nntp.best.com (Carl Hansen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: exception #2 and #3 on boot-?? Date: 20 Oct 1996 23:20:15 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <54ec3f$n02@nntp1.best.com> References: <53pjf9$81a@nntp1.best.com> <3264FF46.59E2@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Carl Hansen wrote: > > I am helping a friend with his Turbo 24meg slab 2bit screen. > > almost immediately on bootup the monitor says: > > Exception #3 or maybe: > > Exception #2 (0xc) at pc 0x100060e sp 0xc03f600 > > tried reseating the simms, moving simms around, > pushing in ROM chip, swaping monitor and keyboard, > mouse. Same results. What is going on? > > Where can I find out about this stuff? > any clues at all would be most appreciated. my friend reports he took out the battery for 3 days, retried it, and it wqorked. ** hansen@best.com http://www.cocktail.com *** * http://www.berkeleynetcentral.com/DrPseudocryptonym * * Dr Pseudocryptonym's Book Knowledge * ************* a 100% text-only web site *************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: JAZ drive under NeXTstep / OpenStep Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DzL6xK.7p4@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 18:20:08 GMT References: <5409qt$9ff@ns.dart.de> <Pine.SUN.3.95.961018202642.14616A-100000@kira> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <Pine.SUN.3.95.961018202642.14616A-100000@kira>, Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > >The JAZ drive will work under NS 3.3 and presumably 4.x also (no reason to >think it wouldn't). > >You will need a disktab, but someone has already done that, try: > >http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ns-disktab/ > I didn't have the Jaz entry up until recently, so if you were looking for it and didn't find it, look again. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: mrbill@texas.net (Bill Bradford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem getting identd to work under 3.3 Date: 21 Oct 1996 05:55:56 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <54f39c$50g@news2.texas.net> I recently fired up my NeXT and connected it to my home network. Everything works fine, until I try to compile and setup pidentd (which I've done hundreds of times before on Sun and other sytems). Basically, it just doesent work. When I run in.identd directly: in.identd: getpeername(): Socket operation on non-socket (or along those lines) is what I get... this happens with both versions I compile and precompiled versions off of peanuts.leo.org. I'm using NeXTStep 3.3 on a NeXTstation mono with 8mb RAM (yes, I know I need more RAM....) Replies would be apprciated, as I cant do *anything* with this machine from home (in regards to getting into our internal network) without an identd daemon running. Thanks. Replies to the address below. BTW, anybody know where I can get a set of the rubber "feet" that raise up the keyboard to a slant? using ths keyboard lying flat is about to drive me nuts..... -- __________________________________________________________________ | bill bradford | system administrator, unix geek, and BOFH | | mrbill@texas.net | texas networking, inc. http://www.texas.net | | mrbill@mrbill.net | 210-272-8111 * 512-472-2532 | |------------------------------------------------------------------| | "I was known as the chief grave robber of my state." -Dan Qyayle | ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 100/10 Ethernet cards for PCI. Date: 21 Oct 1996 08:56:42 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <veehgnojx11.fsf@shell.one.net> Anyone have recommendations as to the most reasonable 100/10 Ethernet card for NeXTSTEP that plugs into PCI? Apparently the 3Com cards are out of the picture, as there are no drivers for the PCI version. How about "DEC 21140" ($95) and "SMC 9332" ($119)? (Prices from www.atipa.com.) Thanks, -- scott hess <shess@winternet.com> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 <address and phone work now, I am already in Cincinnati. No new email, yet.>
From: schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: 21 Oct 1996 14:19:59 GMT Organization: CU-HSS Program in Biomechanical Engineering Sender: ps17@cornell.edu (Verified) Distribution: world Message-ID: <54g0qf$njf@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> <5464bb$ga9@agate.berkeley.edu> <5483vs$k11@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <5488nk$6fg@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> Art Isbell (aisbell@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : I don't know what publications you consider "respectable", but a check : with several trade mags (e.g., _UNIX Review_, _Information Week_) suggests : that they aren't "respectable" using your definition. A quick check reveals : "CompuServe", "SecureBuy", "FedEx", "PowerShip", "ARCserve", "ActiveX", : "TransQuest", "AViiON", etc., etc. None of these are "proper English" - they : are all trade names like "NeXT". : : Referring to any of these trade names using different capitalization or : spelling is simply incorrect. No respectable magazine or journal would : purposely print incorrect trade names. OK -- you are right, many publications do adhere to suggested "cosmetic" capitalization. In my post, which suggested that respectable journals do not do it, I drew heavily on a letter to the editor of the New York Times, and the editorial response, which said exactly what I repeated: A company cannot dictate what letters to capitalize in its name. I do believe that the New York Times is a respectable journal, if maybe a little formal in editorial policy. I would guess that the decision falls on the editors to decide on policy-- do you try to communicate as effectively as possible, by typing NeXT, or do you try to obey the rules of the english language, by typing Next. I notice that the NYT web page does, in fact, describe Next, Inc as NeXT. But of course, you are correct: that is not proper english. But it does name the company in one, four-letter word. I really just wanted to point out that we cannot assume that failure to adopt NeXT's cosmetic capitalization indicates inclusion in the WIntel conspiracy -- not to indicate that failure to abide by the NYT's strict sylistic guidelines is a sign of a 2nd rate publication. -pete
From: kenneyd@vax0.gram.edu (Dick Kenney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: how do you disable video card? Message-ID: <1996Oct21.085602.318@vax0.gram.edu> Date: 21 Oct 96 08:56:02 -0600 Distribution: world Organization: Grambling State University, Louisiana 71245 Can anyone please tell me how to disable the build in video graphics card on a Packard Bell Legend 406CD? I would like to install a 9FX motion531 accelerator card. I'm sure there must be a jumper or switch on the motherboard? thank....dk
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: exception #2 and #3 on boot-?? Date: 21 Oct 1996 15:56:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <54g6fi$llv@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <53pjf9$81a@nntp1.best.com> <3264FF46.59E2@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> <54ec3f$n02@nntp1.best.com> hansen@nntp.best.com (Carl Hansen) wrote: > >Carl Hansen wrote: >> >> I am helping a friend with his Turbo 24meg slab 2bit screen. >> >> almost immediately on bootup the monitor says: >> >> Exception #3 or maybe: >> >> Exception #2 (0xc) at pc 0x100060e sp 0xc03f600 >> >> tried reseating the simms, moving simms around, >> pushing in ROM chip, swaping monitor and keyboard, >> mouse. Same results. What is going on? >> >> Where can I find out about this stuff? >> any clues at all would be most appreciated. > >my friend reports he took out the battery for 3 days, retried it, and it wqorked. > You should only need to take it out for about an hour. (15 min on turbo) --Ryan
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: What is the best motherboard to use for NS/Unix? Date: 21 Oct 1996 16:13:17 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <54g7et$c9h@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> Hi, I am currently in the market for a new computer as I am getting sick of trying to convert my AST to run NS. I have decided to build my own machine from scratch. Which motherboard performs the best under nextstep? Thanks, -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu (c) G. Casamento -- Permission to distribute on MS network denied!! "It is not enough that I should succeed. All others must fail!!" -- G. Kahn
From: Nate Hurst <nhurst@eai.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS on SUN (Performance?) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:21:25 -0500 Organization: Engineering Animation Message-ID: <326BB115.5C2@eai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do the SUN machines running NS compare to say the original black hardware, or a fast Intel box? I have heard that the graphics are faster, is this true? Any other opinions? thanks nate -- nhurst@eai.com Nate Hurst, Production Programmer Engineering Animation Inc., 2321 N Loop Dr., Ames IA 50010 Phone: (515) 296-9908
From: bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: adjusting focus on 17" FIMI monitor Date: 21 Oct 1996 17:51:54 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor Sender: Bruce Patton Message-ID: <54gd7q$7o8@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> I just bought a color turbo. The FIMI monitor is very blurry, especially text. Did I get screwed or is there a way to adjust the focus? It seems that every so often the focus improves at a regular rate (scanning rate?). I hope I did not get a bum monitor. Also, is there a place or method to get replacement rubber feet for the monitor stand? Thanks, Bruce Patton bwp@engin.umich.edu .
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: 21 Oct 1996 18:59:12 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-b-63.usc.edu Distribution: world Message-ID: <54gh60$ahd@usc.edu> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> <5464bb$ga9@agate.berkeley.edu> <5483vs$k11@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <5488nk$6fg@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> <54g0qf$njf@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Cc: schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu In <54g0qf$njf@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Peter Schmidt wrote: > I really just wanted to point out that we cannot assume that failure to > adopt NeXT's cosmetic capitalization indicates inclusion in the WIntel > conspiracy -- not to indicate that failure to abide by the NYT's strict > sylistic guidelines is a sign of a 2nd rate publication. I would agree that one shouldn't assume a conspiracy. If there are proofs (and some have been mentioned for particular instances) then that's a different matter. I would only suggest that any rag that spells NeXT as Next is being sloppy and not doing their job very well. The issue of proper names and identity is not nearly as simple as checking the dictionary, and particularly a name such as NeXT, which is not an anacronism, but more of an I.D. tag, should probably be more accorded the value of a signature (i.e. its purpose residing in its visual and symbolic uniqueness) than as a word. I am somewhat tangentially reminded of a story I heard one about a kid in 3rd grade who came home crying to his parents. He was extremely upset because his teacher kept calling him by his father's name which confused him very much. The teacher insisted on calling him "Juan" which was indeed his father's name. Juan Gomez. (I'm really forgetting the true names so I hope these names are only as offensive as John Q. Smith). The child's written name was Juan Matteo Gomez. And all his family and friends and the church where he was baptized called him Juan Matteo as his real name. The teacher figured Matteo was his middle name and refused to listen to the child's protestations. This was not a small event for Juan Matteo. Now that example is not about symbols and visual ideograms, as in the case with NeXT, but it is a small reminder of the variabilities of language. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k :: NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: mycroft@best.com (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: 21 Oct 1996 11:55:34 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <54ggv6$7jv@shellx.best.com> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> <5483vs$k11@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <5488nk$6fg@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> <54g0qf$njf@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> In article <54g0qf$njf@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, Peter Schmidt <schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu> wrote: >OK -- you are right, many publications do adhere to suggested "cosmetic" >capitalization. In my post, which suggested that respectable journals do not >do it, I drew heavily on a letter to the editor of the New York Times, and >the editorial response, which said exactly what I repeated: A company >cannot dictate what letters to capitalize in its name. I do believe that >the New York Times is a respectable journal, if maybe a little formal in >editorial policy. I suggest that the spelling, punctuation and capitalization of a company's name is far more than cosmetic. If my company were called Nyetwork Design and you spelled it "Network Design" then you would have misspelled it, regardless of the fact that "Nyetwork" is not a proper English word. Also if I choose to spell my name with unusual caps or punctuation, it is still my company name (and probably my company trademark as well). If you misrender it, then you have done me a disservice, once again regardless of the rules of the english language. If I were serious enough about my company's brand and image, I might aim to take legal action against you for for diluting that brand by your misrendering of my name. Whether or not I would win such a suit I don't care to conjecture at this point, but I assure you that "Your Honor, 'NeXT' is not a proper English word." would not serve you well as a defense. Regards, Alex Currier -- alex currier | "I think people are happy using Windows, mycroft@best.com | and that's an extremely depressing thought." alex@organic.com | -- Steve Jobs, 1/96
From: Dean_Reece@NeXT.com (Dean Reece) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: USB (Universal Serical Bus) Date: 21 Oct 1996 18:48:24 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <54ggho$kd@news.next.com> References: <54b31p$s4f@hobbes.compusult.nf.ca> Your question is actually very complicated because there are several components necessary for a complete USB solution, and they are maturing at different rates. First, you must have a USB port on your machine. All the newest Intel PCI chipsets include integrated USB support. Many motherboard vendors (including IBM) are making use of this to provide USB ports - others are not. Expect to need an ATX form factor case for use with a generic USB motherboard, because a standard AT case has no convenient cutout for USB ports. It will also be possible to get a USB add-in card, but this is much less desirable than an integrated port. Second, you will need USB some USB peripherals. None of the vendors I've spoken to plan to switch over to USB as a singular solution, but rather include USB ports in addition to Serial & PS/2 ports. They will continue to ship PS/2 mouse & keyboard for now. To really make use of USB, you want a USB monitor. Such a (theoretical) monitor attaches to the Host PC with a single USB cable, but provides ports for several USB devices (Keyboard, mouse, light pen, joystick...) and also contains several USB devices (Speakers+D/A, Mic+A/D, Power management). As you can see, this a radical departure from the classic "SB16" audio subsystem, which means... You need USB capable software. Microsoft will probably be one of the earliest adopters of USB, but if you want your new USB devices to work with other OS's, you'll probably have to wait a bit for drivers. There are some peripheral standards being floated around now, but I never expect the 1.0 version of any device to meet those standards (Remember the first generation of PCI devices, ATA/PI CD-ROMs,...). So, at least for the 1.0 versions, don't expect every mouse to work equally well with all OS's. Consider how ubiquitous the PS/2 keyboard and serial mouse are. Cross compatibility is nearly 100%. You can buy these peripherals new for under $10 each (for cheapo models), and they work on any machine. This is going to be a difficult market for USB to crack. I expect USB to make much more progress with more esoteric devices before you see generic desktop machines with no PS/2 or RS-232 ports in favor of USB. Some of the big vendors (Compaq, DEC) may lead here, but generic motherboards will rely on PS/2 for some time still, I think. My personal opinion is that USB is an excellent standard, and deserves to dominate the market, much as PCI has done. It will, however, have to share the market with PS/2 & EIA-232, much like PCI still does with ISA. It probably fits best into the laptop market at first, since weight, power and panel space are at a premium. One USB port could replace most of the connectors on current portables. Well, I hope this post added more information than confusion, but please feel free to ignore any or all of my opinions. Cheers, - Dean jridgley@nfld.com writes | The USB, as far as I know is due to be out in late 1996 or early | 1997. Does anyone have any better info or comments on these. | I am thinking of purchasing a new system and I am trying to find out | more about the Universal Serial Bus availability and if it is worth | holding off my purchase until it is available. | Will this be an easy an inexpensive upgrade to an existing Pentium | board. | Will this impact the price significantly or not? | Appreciate any comments in this regard. | | | -- | Jim Ridgley | Newfoundland, Canada | jridgley@nfld.com
From: mycroft@best.com (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: 21 Oct 1996 13:19:40 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <54glss$jni@shellx.best.com> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> <5488nk$6fg@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> <54g0qf$njf@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <54gh60$ahd@usc.edu> In article <54gh60$ahd@usc.edu>, Matthew N. Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> wrote: >the dictionary, and particularly a name such as NeXT, which >is not an anacronism, but more of an I.D. tag, should Given some comments made lately about the state of NeXT, OpenStep and so forth, one might think the name NeXT *is* an anacronism. Whether or not it's an acronym is another thing entirely. ;) - alex -- alex currier | "I think people are happy using Windows, mycroft@best.com | and that's an extremely depressing thought." alex@organic.com | -- Steve Jobs, 1/96
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: What is the best motherboard to use for NS/Unix? Date: 21 Oct 1996 21:37:17 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <54gqed$6tc@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <54g7et$c9h@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> In article <54g7et$c9h@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) writes: > Hi, I am currently in the market for a new computer as I am getting sick > of trying to convert my AST to run NS. I have decided to build my own > machine from scratch. > Which motherboard performs the best under nextstep? Most work fine from what I've heard, but I've always stuck with ASUS brand motherboards, and have never been disappointed. -- Rex Dieter Computer System Manager Department of Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska Lincoln
From: schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: 21 Oct 1996 21:50:24 GMT Organization: CU-HSS Program in Biomechanical Engineering Sender: ps17@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <54gr70$a3a@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> <5483vs$k11@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <5488nk$6fg@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> <54g0qf$njf@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <54ggv6$7jv@shellx.best.com> Alex Currier (mycroft@best.com) wrote: > Peter Schmidt <schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu> wrote: >> OK -- you are right, many publications do adhere to suggested "cosmetic" >> capitalization.... >> ...The New York Times... said exactly what I repeated: A company >> cannot dictate what letters to capitalize in its name. > > I suggest that the spelling, punctuation and capitalization of a company's > name is far more than cosmetic. Spelling is a different issue. One may spell one's name however one wants, for names are separate from words. I don't think that anyone will argue with that! > Also > if I choose to spell my name with unusual caps or punctuation, it is still > my company name (and probably my company trademark as well). For the record, I do write NeXT as NeXT when I write it myself. In suggesting that I may write it as Next, Inc. in a formal publication, I was citing a letter to the editor of the NY Times, and that paper's editorial response. The letter made exactly the point that you make, that NeXT is recognised by the name, etc, and the editors responded that they are governed by a set of stylistic rules which apply to everything they publish. The Times' response (which I quote from memory, since I no longer have it) claimed that as the eye is drawn to the mixed caps, they felt that by rendering the corporation name as it appears in the trademark, they were unfairly advertising that corporation. --- This is not my opinion, this is what the Times wrote. > If I were serious enough about my > company's brand and image, I might aim to take legal action against you > for for diluting that brand by your misrendering of my name.... > Whether or not I would win such a suit I don't care to conjecture at this > point, but I assure you that "Your Honor, 'NeXT' is not a proper English > word." would not serve you well as a defense. I believe that that is incorrect. For cases of libel or slander, which this would in all likelyhood fall under, it is up to the plaintiff to show malice to collect dammages. If I were able to produce a style manual which I followed in the production of my journal, and I were able to show that the suggestions of that style manual was equally and continually applied, then I find it unlikely that any legal action would make it past the initial complaint. For the record, the New York Public Library Writer's Guide to Style and Usage does recomend intercapping (writing Next as NeXT) if that is the trade name. They do however require capitalization at the beginning of a sentance, regardless of the trade name capitalization. DBASE should sue the New York Public Library for their diluting of the dBASE name. The Economist (a magazine I have close by) uses small caps for words like PowerPC -- a full cap for the initial P, and small caps for the final PC. Does this dilute the power of the trademark? Are small caps capital or lowercase letters in the eyes of the law? In the case of NeXT, is the small capital X sufficiently different from the lowercase that NeXT doesn't look like NexT? Is that a question we should put before the jury? What if they used extra-large lowercase letters? Would that be libelous? Is it the size of the letters, or is it the shape? What if my logo relies on a ligature between an f and and l, but someone renders it in a fixed width font? Should I be angry and sue?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> Subject: Are big drives a problem for NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.961021191530.7967B-100000@lipschitz> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:25:28 -0600 Organization: As little as I can get away with... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it my brain damage acting up, or do I remember reading that NEXTSTEP (on old blackboxes) has a problem with big drives? We want to replace some 1Gb external drives with 2Gb (not the boxes they're in, just the drives). Thanks, kc ( Please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu )
From: (Tower) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next Modems? - Can I connect any external/serial modem to my NEXT Machine?? Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:04:08 GMT Organization: Tower Message-ID: <326c0edd.1811537@netnews.worldnet.att.net> Next Modems? What do I purchase? Internals? Eternal? Help! Thanks in advance, Tower
From: mycroft@best.com (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: 21 Oct 1996 17:52:54 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <54h5t6$k7u@shellx.best.com> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> <54g0qf$njf@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <54ggv6$7jv@shellx.best.com> <54gr70$a3a@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> In article <54gr70$a3a@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, Peter Schmidt <schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu> wrote: >recognised by the name, etc, and the editors responded that they are >governed by a set of stylistic rules which apply to everything they publish. "A" set? Is this a set they made up? >The Times' response (which I quote from memory, since I no longer have it) >claimed that as the eye is drawn to the mixed caps, they felt that by >rendering the corporation name as it appears in the trademark, they were >unfairly advertising that corporation. --- This is not my opinion, this is So to render a company's name properly is unfairly advertising that company? Bah. Rendering a company's name at all is advertising that company. If the company's name happens to be eye catching then so be it. It seems unfair, on the other hand, to deliberately dilute the power of a company name which is what your statement seems to indicate the Times is doing. >I believe that that is incorrect. For cases of libel or slander, which this >would in all likelyhood fall under, it is up to the plaintiff to show malice >to collect dammages. If I were able to produce a style manual which I I didn't say I would win a lawsuit, just that I'd bring legal action (which may constitute a written request signed by my lawyers asking you to stop mangling my company name, at the very least.) >For the record, the New York Public Library Writer's Guide to Style and >Usage does recomend intercapping (writing Next as NeXT) if that is the trade >name. They do however require capitalization at the beginning of a >sentance, regardless of the trade name capitalization. DBASE should sue the >New York Public Library for their diluting of the dBASE name. There are subtle differences between rendering a company's name properly where possible, following someone's style guide which causes you to render company names improperly and deliberately mis-rendering a company name so as to not "unduly advertise" them. Aside from that even, there are no Journalism Police who are going to storm the offices of Time and confiscate their word processors if they print the word dBASE. It's better, IMHO, to be respectful of proper names than to follow some arbitrary style guide ruling... regardless of how silly that name may appear to be. >What if they used extra-large lowercase letters? Would that be libelous? >Is it the size of the letters, or is it the shape? What if my logo relies >on a ligature between an f and and l, but someone renders it in a fixed >width font? Should I be angry and sue? Now you're just splitting hairs. We're talking about capitalization and the company name here, not logos. I think it's pretty simple... if a company's proper name can be correctly rendered within the standard character set then someone who is writing that name should do so out of respect. If it's possible to do small caps inlined with lowercase letters then why not just make it big caps? Why go to all of the trouble to *not* render a name properly when you could just do it the way it's supposed to be done? -- alex currier | "I think people are happy using Windows, mycroft@best.com | and that's an extremely depressing thought." alex@organic.com | -- Steve Jobs, 1/96
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] Exchange Mac modem cable to NeXT Date: 22 Oct 1996 01:29:13 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <54h819$sui@news.istar.ca> References: <3269F42A.12AA@soback.kornet.nm.kr> <326A9AB6.167E@goldengate.net> In-Reply-To: <326A9AB6.167E@goldengate.net> On 10/20/96, Matt Jurcich wrote: >I recently purchased by turbo color slab, so I also bought a Mac >modem cable from the local computer superstore. The box for the >cable said that it was wired to do hardware flow control and it >seems to work. You might want to check the FAQ's, but if your >cable can do hardware flow control, I believe you will be fine-- >no modifications will be needed to connect that modem/cable to >your NeXT. I bought a Mac modem cable with hardware flow control. I took the cable apart to check out the wiring and it was definitely incorrect for the NeXT. I did some resoldering and it works fine, now. This was probably the easiest way for me to make a NeXT modem cable without having to buy the parts individually. -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -=- jsamson@istar.ca -=- NeXTmail & MIME welcome -===================================================================-
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: 22 Oct 1996 05:39:19 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-g-14.usc.edu Message-ID: <54hmm7$h3h@usc.edu> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> <5488nk$6fg@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> <54g0qf$njf@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <54gh60$ahd@usc.edu> <54glss$jni@shellx.best.com> Cc: mycroft@best.com In <54glss$jni@shellx.best.com> Alex Currier wrote: > In article <54gh60$ahd@usc.edu>, Matthew N. Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> wrote: > > >the dictionary, and particularly a name such as NeXT, which > >is not an anacronism, but more of an I.D. tag, should > > Given some comments made lately about the state of NeXT, OpenStep and so > forth, one might think the name NeXT *is* an anacronism. > > Whether or not it's an acronym is another thing entirely. ;) I had a funny feeling, but too lazy to command=. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k :: NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] Exchange Mac modem cable to NeXT Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 19:39:29 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <326CA452.21F0@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <3269F42A.12AA@soback.kornet.nm.kr> <326A9AB6.167E@goldengate.net> <54h819$sui@news.istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, >I bought a Mac modem cable with hardware flow control. I took the >cable apart to check out the wiring and it was definitely incorrect >for the NeXT. I did some resoldering and it works fine, now. This >was probably the easiest way for me to make a NeXT modem cable without >having to buy the parts individually. Ok, If it so easy, I will try too. Please show me the way. How can I make the NeXT modem cable? The following is Mac modem cable to NeXT modem cabling. Is that correct? And What is the "hardware flow control"? How can I check the "hardware flow control" of my Mac modem cable? DIN-8 DB-25 signal means direction 1 20 DTR data terminal ready to modem 2 8 DCD data carrier detect from modem 3 2 TD transmitted data to modem 4 7 SG signal ground n/a 5 3 RD received data from modem 6 4 RTS request to send to modem 7 NC 8 5 CTS clear to send from modem Thanks, YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, BeBox News and Info)
From: felix@nice.usergroup.ethz.ch (Felix Rauch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JAZ drive under NeXTstep / OpenStep Date: 22 Oct 1996 11:34:32 GMT Organization: NiCE - NeXT User Group, Zuerich, Switzerland Message-ID: <54ibg8$1e3@elna.ethz.ch> References: <5409qt$9ff@ns.dart.de> <Pine.SUN.3.95.961018202642.14616A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma (luomat@peak.org) wrote: > The JAZ drive will work under NS 3.3 and presumably 4.x also (no reason to > think it wouldn't). Just to let you know: My JAZ drive does not work with my colorstation. I don't know yet if it's a bad drive, or if it has to do with the pyro-accalarator-card in the NeXT. The drive did work with a standard black cube however. I hope I can check that out in more detail soon. - Felix -- Felix Rauch, CS-Student @ ETH Zurich, Switzerland. internet: felix@nice.ch (NeXT Mail welcome) For pgp public key finger felix.pgp@nice.ethz.ch
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Are big drives a problem for NEXTSTEP? Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:14:11 -0700 Organization: The NeXT FTP site at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961021181321.5135E-100000@kira> References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.961021191530.7967B-100000@lipschitz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.93.961021191530.7967B-100000@lipschitz> Over 2 gigs is not possible for NeXTStep without partitioning I believe that OpenStep has done away with this, but don't know for sure. TjL > From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software, comp.sys.next.hardware > Subject: Are big drives a problem for NEXTSTEP? > > > Is it my brain damage acting up, or do I remember reading that NEXTSTEP (on > old blackboxes) has a problem with big drives? We want to replace some 1Gb > external drives with 2Gb (not the boxes they're in, just the drives). > > Thanks, kc > > ( Please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu ) > > > >
From: dwy@mcny.com (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: adjusting focus on 17" FIMI monitor Date: 22 Oct 1996 13:51:01 GMT Organization: Media Connection of New York, Inc. Message-ID: <54ijg5$a6u@alice.walrus.com> References: <54gd7q$7o8@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Bruce Wayne Patton (bwp@engin.umich.edu) wrote: : I just bought a color turbo. The FIMI monitor is : very blurry, especially text. Did I get screwed or : is there a way to adjust the focus? It seems that : every so often the focus improves at a regular : rate (scanning rate?). I hope I did not get a bum : monitor. While thinking about this, my 17" N4001 is somewhat washed out. Is there a way to tune this? The keyboard brightness is at maximum. -- # david young: network engineer+oop developer # net: dwy@mcny.com, dwy@ace.net (NeXTmail ok) web: http://www.ace.net/ # vox: 212.686.3845 201.798.5217 fax: 212.686.3856
From: thedrjay@aol.com (The Dr Jay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: What is the best motherboard to use for NS/Unix? Date: 22 Oct 1996 10:37:48 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <54im7s$d0b@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <54gqed$6tc@crcnis3.unl.edu> All of the ASUS mother boards that I tried worked with NS. They don’t test them for compatibility for NS but do test them with SCO UNIX, Novell Netware, SCO OpenServer, Unixware, Solaris, NT, Win95, DOS, and OS/2. Due to the large base of operating systems tested including most of the other UNIX’s there is a good chance that NS will run on any of there boards. Most of the other mother board manufactures only test for DOS, Windows, Win95, and sometimes OS/2, and or NT also. So far the best performing chipset for the Pentium is the Intel HX and the one I would want. Considering that most of the other clone mother boards I have tried have worked also I think you should worry more about things like the video card, SCSI, controller, sound card, hard drives larger than 2 gigabits, and if you opt for IDE the CDROM. These are where I have found most of the problems are related to with Intel NS systems. The best way to pick the other components is to keep an eye out for usnet postings on them. This might make you change your mind on some of them, and if there is some bug that can be easily fixed you will know about it so you can be prepared. It’s better to know all the potential problems and cures before you start than find yourself working all night trying to make NS work like some friends have. For sound cards the best ones are none plug and pray like the standard Sound Blaster 16, and Pro Audio Spectrum unfortunately both out of production a few still are available new at some dealers. DPT is the SCSI controller of choice as most of the postings are related to driver availability only unlike most of the Adaptec’s relating to installation problems. Sony or Mitsumi CD-ROM’s if you plan to use an enhanced IDE CD-ROM (note if you plan to use a SCSI hard drive and a EIDE CD-ROM for installation ignore installs prompt first for the CD-ROM controller driver then hard drive controller driver, always load the SCSI controller driver first then the EIDE driver). For the video card it’s hard to come up with any that almost never have problems. Most of the time I use Diamond Stealth 64’s because I know of all the bug’s and cures. If you plan on using a hard drive larger the 2 gig’s you will need an fstab entree and most likely need to do something else to make it work. Look on the usnet as most of the time it’s posted in someone’s reply for help with that drive. I hope this helps steers you in the right direction away from the headaches of seting up NS on Intel.
From: schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Just An Observation ... Date: 22 Oct 1996 16:21:11 GMT Organization: CU-HSS Program in Biomechanical Engineering Sender: ps17@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <54is9n$e2p@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <5444ap$j7j@news.asu.edu> <54g0qf$njf@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <54ggv6$7jv@shellx.best.com> <54gr70$a3a@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <54h5t6$k7u@shellx.best.com> Alex Currier (mycroft@best.com) wrote: > Peter Schmidt <schmidt@radius.mae.cornell.edu> wrote: >> the editors responded that they are >> governed by a set of stylistic rules which apply to everything they >> publish. > "A" set? Is this a set they made up? The New York Times Manual of Style is or has been available at bookstores. > . Aside from that even, > there are no Journalism Police who are going to storm the offices of Time > and confiscate their word processors if they print the word dBASE. Although many people police themselves about proper style and usage :-). The problem which we are discussing here is that there is no single code of style, and stylistic decisions are all made on the basis of tradition. > If it's possible to do small caps inlined with lowercase letters > then why not just make it big caps? I hadn't anticipated that you would be against small caps -- it seems to me to be the perfect solution if you're a stodgy Brit who wants a proper english way to represent PowerPC (as in the Economist) while still awarding only one capital letter per proper noun. > Why go to all of the trouble to *not* > render a name properly when you could just do it the way it's supposed to > be done? The biggest issue here is What is rendering a name properly? Is everything which appears in promotional literature what defines what is proper? But let's dodge that issue and ask, "why render a name in a manner different from the way the named body renders it?" The answer is that there must be a limit as to how far you will go. Style manuals have existed long before intercapping came into fashion -- should corporate literature override a long tradition of following rules of style? Style manuals suggest that some lines (e.g., newspaper headlines) should be rendered in all caps -- should it be all caps EXCEPT one lowercase letter? REPORTS INDICATE THAT NeXT COMPUTERS HAVE A LOYAL FOLLOWING The fact is that most newspapers and magazines could easily print simple logos instead of printed names in line in the text in their pages. They don't -- and I'll guess that you won't see them start. But what is the difference between a simple logo and NeXT? On www.next.com, they write "NEXT SOFTWARE, INC", so clearly they recognise that they can be refered to as NEXT. They identify their own domain name as next.com -- I'm guessing that they don't think of their domain as the word "next", but recognise that even an all lowercase NeXT can refer to their company. They also have a web page called "ABOUT NEXT", which is very confusing if we don't realize that NEXT refers to the company! FedEx renders its own name on its web site as FedEx, primarily, but also the name appears with small caps for the lowercase letters. In the press releases, the company is always first referred to as Federal Express Corp., which is followed by '("FedEx")'. FedEx's web page is also "www.fedex.com", which suggests that they recognise their own trade name with lowercase letters. In fact, in their own links they recognise that "fedex" is the same as "FedEx" when they write the link in lowercase, even though DNS is case insensitive! FedEx refers to a company called "Photodisc" on their web page, even though the logo to the left of the link, and the company to which the link is connected, is clearly called PhotoDisc! This seems highly unfair, when Federal Express uses FedEx to describe itself. ------------------------------------------- When even the companys themselves recognise that their name is spelled with letters not capitalization, I believe that the position that capitalization is required to correctly identify the comany becomes untennable. The idea of capitalization out of respect contrary to stylistic guidelines is interesting -- perhaps I will write "NeXT" and "microsoft". -pete
From: gcasa@wam.umd.edu (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: NS "power off" signal/Intel Motherboard Date: 22 Oct 1996 15:37:08 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <54ipn4$pst@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> It has been my understanding that NS/Intel issues a "power off" signal to the machine when shutting the system down. I know that this used to work when running on an object.station, but I am not sure if any motherboards currently available will react to the power down signal. Does any one know of a motherboard that is both 100% compatible w/NS, like the ASUS or Intel/ATX, and will react to the shutdown signal? Answers to this quest should, of course, exclude object.station motherboards since they are old 486 motherboards. Thanks for any advice, -- Gregory John Casamento -- gcasa@wam.umd.edu (c) G. Casamento -- Permission to distribute on MS network denied!! "It is not enough that I should succeed. All others must fail!!" -- G. Kahn
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Zip drive on NS3.3 Sparc? Date: 22 Oct 1996 18:25:18 GMT Organization: Cygnus Support Message-ID: <54j3ie$lbg@majipoor.cygnus.com> The discussion of Zip drives on NS has come up before (I've even asked it before). I've become pretty acustom to using my Zip drive on my NS/Intel box.. but when I was leaving SJSU, I tried to use my Zip drive on the Sparc 20/50Mhz box I had there (With NS3.3), but it wouldn't boot with the Zip drive attached (the probe-scsi from the sparc monitor reported everything fine, but the system would hang shortly after it fsck'ed the 2 hard drives). I'm now using NS 3.3 on a Sparc4/110 at my new job, and would like to start transfering some data via my Zip drive (which is an external). Does anyone have any experience with Zip drives on NS3.3 Sparc? Are there any special hoops I have to jump through to make it work? Or do they just not work on a Sparc? John -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com (ex-kzin@email.sjsu.edu) =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ "And, ironically, that's how the founding fathers expected it to work: either the government stays clean, or the people shoot them." -- ttk
From: jmichel@imtn.dsccc.com (James Michel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Two Displays on NS/Intel? Date: 22 Oct 1996 21:51:30 GMT Organization: DSC Communications Corporation, Plano, Texas USA Message-ID: <54jfl2$8f4@camelot.dsccc.com> I run NeXTSTEP 3.3 on an Intel 486/120 and would like to add another display to this PC. Can this be done on Intel like the Black? If so, what are the steps I need to take in order to do this? Thanks, James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: mattj@invisix.com Subject: Re: Q: NS "power off" signal/Intel Motherboard Message-ID: <a167cc$12331d.2d8@news.goldengate.net> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:51:29 GMT References: <54ipn4$pst@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> I've noticed that on some newer portable Intel-based computers running Windows 95 that after selecting Shut Down, the computer shuts down and then turns itself off. You might be able to hook into the power management features on some newer systems and turn it off that way.... Just an idea. Later. -- MATT | mailto:mattj@invisix.com ** living a microsoft ** jurcich | http://www.invisix.com ** free lifestyle ** Silicon Graphics Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 24MB, 250MB, NEC XP21, NEXTSTEP 3.2
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: What is the best motherboard to use for NS/Unix? Date: 23 Oct 1996 00:28:05 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-e-18.usc.edu Message-ID: <54joql$3i0@usc.edu> References: <54gqed$6tc@crcnis3.unl.edu> <54im7s$d0b@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Cc: thedrjay@aol.com If there's never been such a perfect example for breaking things down into paragraphs... 8-) Whew! Difficult getting through it. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTStep v.3.3 m68k :: NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP" Computer Privacy Information --> http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm/
From: ewagner@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (Earl Wagner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help! problem booting Date: 23 Oct 1996 03:18:11 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <54k2pj$o9d@netnews.upenn.edu> I am using a NextStation Color running 3.2 and I just hooked up a Next Printer yesterday. When I tried to boot up today, I got the "Loading from Disk" screen which then switched to "Next Mach Operating System" screen which seems to be doing alright until: ... root on sd0 boot_rc boot_rc boot_rc ... I can get into the rom monitor but trying to boot in single user is unsuccessful because it ends up in the same situation. Anyone have any advice? Please post or email. Thanks, -Earl Wagner ewagner@sas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Next Modems? - Can I connect any external/serial modem to my NEXT Machine?? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <Dzor5q.31I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:29:49 GMT References: <326c0edd.1811537@netnews.worldnet.att.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <326c0edd.1811537@netnews.worldnet.att.net>, Tower <Tower> wrote: > > >Next Modems? > >What do I purchase? > For black hardware you can get pretty much anything you want, as long as it's external and you have or build the correct cable (instructions in the man page for zs). Zyxel is, of course, the best, but you pay for it. I use a USR Sportster 28.8 for PPP and it works fine, although this modem doesn't work for faxing. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two Displays on NS/Intel? Date: 23 Oct 1996 12:13:52 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <54l260$oop@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <54jfl2$8f4@camelot.dsccc.com> Cc: jmichel@imtn.dsccc.com James Michel wrote in comp.sys.next.hardware: > > I run NeXTSTEP 3.3 on an Intel 486/120 and would like to add another > display to this PC. Can this be done on Intel like the Black? If > so, what are the steps I need to take in order to do this? > It is possible with two ELSA Winner cards and the appropriate driver. As far as I remember, there was at least one other option. Was it Matrox or was it Number Nine? > Thanks, > > James > CIAO Volker -- Volker Safran, Berlin, Germany ___________________________________ --- / Phone: +49 30 45482196 (private) volker@abulafia.in-berlin.de / +49 30 45058062 (at work) vsafran@ukrv.de (at work) / FAX : +49 30 45482198 (private) ______________________________/ +49 30 45058904 (at work)
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From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FDISK vs Unix partitions. Date: 23 Oct 1996 09:05:29 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <veepw29q19i.fsf@shell.one.net> Was just wondering if it's possible to use Unix-style partitions when your disk is also partitioned FDISK-style. For instance, on my NeXTstation, I have /dev/sd0a and /dev/sd0b. Why I ask is because I would like to set aside a NeXTSTEP partition for the swapfile. That way, all of the blocks of the swapfile are _guaranteed_ to be in a certain area of the disk. My hope is that this would swap improve performance somewhat because the disk wouldn't have to seek all over (next best thing to an actual swap partition). Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208
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From: YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Exchange Mac modem cable to NeXT Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:06:46 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <326E2669.2F33@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, >I bought a Mac modem cable with hardware flow control. I took the >cable apart to check out the wiring and it was definitely incorrect >for the NeXT. I did some resoldering and it works fine, now. This >was probably the easiest way for me to make a NeXT modem cable without >having to buy the parts individually. Ok, If it so easy, I will try too. Please show me the way. How can I make the NeXT modem cable? The following is Mac modem cable to NeXT modem cabling. Is that correct? And What is the "hardware flow control"? How can I check the "hardware flow control" of my Mac modem cable? DIN-8 DB-25 signal means direction 1 20 DTR data terminal ready to modem 2 8 DCD data carrier detect from modem 3 2 TD transmitted data to modem 4 7 SG signal ground n/a 5 3 RD received data from modem 6 4 RTS request to send to modem 7 NC 8 5 CTS clear to send from modem Thanks, YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, BeBox News and Info)
From: ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Ashrafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 5th RAM(?) slot on Turbo slab? Date: 23 Oct 1996 15:31:59 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <54ldpf$1vp@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I just got a Turbo Slab that needs a little refurbishing before it will run. It has 4 RAM slots together, and separately, it has what looks like a fifth, near the hard disk. What is that for? Thanks, Babak ashrafi@mit.edu
From: Michael Montgomery <mikemon@astro.as.utexas.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can't boot from external disk anymore Date: 23 Oct 1996 17:05:12 GMT Organization: University of Texas, Department of Astronomy Message-ID: <54lj88$6lr@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have just purchased a NeXTstation (68040--25MHz) to replace my old NeXTstation system (both are greyscale). Besides finding 4 SIMM slots instead of 8, the main problem I am having is booting from my external 340 MB disk drive, which was the boot disk on my old system. The external disk has the 2.0 version of the OS and the internal disk in the new system has 3.2. Initially, both the internal and external disks had scsi id's of 0, which generated an 'exception #5' error during boot-up. I tried resetting the jumpers on the internal drive (a 105MB Quantum) to a higher id number (but I don't have any documentation--I just moved the jumper from "A0" to "A1") but this had absolutely no effect. Then I tried changing the jumpers on my external disk drive and I successfully reset its scsi id # to 2. Then the system booted but with the internal disk as the root device. This is ok but cripples me because all my interesting software is on the external drive, and there isn't room for it on the internal drive. I can look at it, but running it is too much of a hassle. Also, I tried booting with the internal drive removed. It recognized the external scsi drive but I still got an 'exception #5' right at the beginning of boot-up. Finally, I found a faq which stated how to boot with the root device other than the lowest scsi id #. At the ROM monitor I typed "bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1" but both still generated the exception #5 error. I must admit, I'm pretty much out of ideas. If this behavior is symptomatic of an actual hardware problem in the slab, I need to know as soon as possible, since I may need to return the system. If anyone has encountered a similar problem before or just happens to know the answer, I would really appreciate some advice. Thank you very much, Mike Montgomery
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two Displays on NS/Intel? Date: 23 Oct 1996 16:59:48 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <54liu4$d3p@news.next.com> References: <54l260$oop@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Volker Safran writes > It is possible with two ELSA Winner cards and the appropriate driver. > As far as I remember, there was at least one other option. Was it > Matrox or was it Number Nine? > Actually, both: The Number Nine Imagine 128 and Matrox Millenium drivers both support multiple screens. I don't knmow what others do, though. -Mark -- Mark Bessey NeXT Software, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 5th RAM(?) slot on Turbo slab? Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:49:12 -0700 Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961023094845.10375B-100000@kira> References: <54ldpf$1vp@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Babak Ashrafi <ashrafi@mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <54ldpf$1vp@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com That's for the DSP. Only diehards will be interested in it enough to have use for it. TjL On 23 Oct 1996, Babak Ashrafi wrote: > Date: 23 Oct 1996 15:31:59 GMT > From: Babak Ashrafi <ashrafi@mit.edu> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > Subject: 5th RAM(?) slot on Turbo slab? > > I just got a Turbo Slab that needs a little refurbishing before it will run. > It has 4 RAM slots together, and separately, it has what looks like a fifth, > near the hard disk. What is that for? > > Thanks, > Babak > ashrafi@mit.edu > >
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: FDISK vs Unix partitions. Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:45:51 -0700 Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961023093833.10375A-100000@kira> References: <veepw29q19i.fsf@shell.one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Scott Hess <shess@shell.one.net> In-Reply-To: <veepw29q19i.fsf@shell.one.net> Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com Scott I believe you can accomplish what you want by a) deciding how big you want the swapfile to be (let's say 80 megs cuz that's what I use b) boot into single user c) cd /private/vm d) mkfile -v 83886080 swapfile.new e) mv swapfile.new swapfile f) reboot (it should correctly set the permissions automatically, checkout rc.swap for more You might also want to set a HIWAT. This is what you wanted to achieve (all the swapspace together in one place) without having to partition your disk. I've done this with the 105 HD in my slab and I have been quite happy with it. It does perform better because it does not have to look for free space or set it aside, that's already done. I'd point you to my faq on this subject http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/swapfaq.ps the same file is also available as ASCII (swapfaq.txt) and RTF (swapfaq.rtf) in the same directory. let me know if I can be of any help, I owe you about 3,000 bits of free help/advice ;-) TjL
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:38:20 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <54loqe$slt@news.wco.com> References: <54b4cu$sq7@hobbes.compusult.nf.ca> <54c9gk$hg@usc.edu> reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) wrote: >What's MMX? There are gobs of details on the Intel Web site, but basically it is an extension which lets one run the integer ALU and multiplier units in the Pentium as a single instruction multiple dataflow (SIMD) machine tuned for working on four data channels of identical width (e.g., RGBA pixels) This is an Intel implementation of a design first used commercially in the PIXAR CHAP processor in the mid-1980s. This was the CPU for the Pixar Image Computer. Later, some folks convinced Motorola to implement the SIMD pixel operations in a commercial microprocessor by Motorola (the 88110). The basic idea is to specify a wide (64 bit) integer ALU and multiplier path. Within the ALU and multiplier, the ability to open the carry lines at pixel channel boundries is implemented, preventing over and underflow from propagating across channels. Optional modes support saturating over and underflow within a channel, clamping the channel to all 1s on overflow or all 0s on underflow. A pixel pack and unpack unit can convert channels in a pixel into fixed point values twice the natural pixel width. These operations speed up compositing and some rendering operations something wonderful. As I recall, the 88110 was memory bandwidth limited for compositing operations. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: 13W3 cable pinouts... Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:38:13 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <54loq7$slt@news.wco.com> References: <sk68-0101042340520001@cu-dialup-0049.cit.cornell.edu> sk68@cornell.edu (Sung Ho Kim) wrote: >Hi, >I currently have my ND system hooked up to a Sun monitor, and I also used >a "standard" 13W3 cable with an RGB adapter to the monitor. I recently >noticed that the 13W3 cable of a ND system at school doesn't have any pins >coming out of its cable ends. Mine has all 10 pin coming out from both >sides. I was wondering then if these pins do anything significant, or is >it just the coax part that does the job? (Or maybe the ND system at >school is broken :-<) The NeXTdimension board and monitor just use the three coax connectors in the 13W3 connector. The pins are not used. On the other hand, the pins are usedin the NeXTStation Color and Color Turbo box. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: "Rob Blessin" <rob@optimal-object.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two Displays on NS/Intel? Date: 23 Oct 1996 19:19:53 GMT Organization: Optimal Object, Inc. Message-ID: <01bbc153$0fd3b680$376df326@void.object-tech.com> References: <54jfl2$8f4@camelot.dsccc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello James Michel: NeXT answers 2349 from www.next.com for Imagine 128 cards supports dual heads PCI , We haven't heard of a driver that will support dual heads using VLB on a 486. We have set up quite a few high end Dual head P166 and Pro 200 systems. Also : ELSA N Answers 1661 (3rd party driver) also supports dual heads with PCI bus architecture only. More info on Optimal check out http://www.optimal-object.com/ Best Regards: -- Rob Blessin National Sales Account Manager Optimal Object , Inc. 4685 Peoria St., Suite 221 Denver, CO 80239 PH# 800-452-7608 PH# 303-799-6223 FAX 303-799-1435 Email: rob@optimal-object.com http://www.optimal-object.com/ FEIN 84-128-1797 James Michel <jmichel@imtn.dsccc.com> wrote in article <54jfl2$8f4@camelot.dsccc.com>... > I run NeXTSTEP 3.3 on an Intel 486/120 and would like to add another > display to this PC. Can this be done on Intel like the Black? If so, > what are the steps I need to take in order to do this? > > Thanks, > > James >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <mattj@invisix.com> Subject: Re: Next Modems? - Can I connect any external/serial modem to my NEXT Machine?? Message-ID: <326E9126.5ECD@invisix.com> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:41:58 -0500 References: <326c0edd.1811537@netnews.worldnet.att.net> <Dzor5q.31I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Organization: Invisix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Evans wrote: > > In article <326c0edd.1811537@netnews.worldnet.att.net>, Tower <Tower> wrote: > > > > > >Next Modems? > > > >What do I purchase? > > > > For black hardware you can get pretty much anything you want, as long as it's > external and you have or build the correct cable (instructions in the man page > for zs). Zyxel is, of course, the best, but you pay for it. I use a USR > Sportster 28.8 for PPP and it works fine, although this modem doesn't work for > faxing. > I would like to do faxing on my station, but don't have a Zyxel. I have a USR Courier 33.6k, Hayes Optima 288, Hayes Accura 288, Intel 14400, and Practical Peripherials 144 and 288 (I used to run a BBS). Any of those work with faxing? Or should I run out and get a Zyxel? (I have enough modems as it is! :) ....) Thanks. BTW: Are there NeXT modems? -- matt | ... NeXT ... silicon graphics ... NEC ... jurcich| ... http://www.invisix.com ... -------' SGI Personal Iris 4D/25G, 16MB, 800MB, 20", Irix 5.3 NeXTstation Turbo Color, 24MB, 250MB, NEC XP21, NS 3.2
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NCR, NeXTSTEP, and Fast SCSI-II. Date: 23 Oct 1996 18:06:27 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <vee4tjlnxng.fsf@shell.one.net> I'm in the "can it go faster" stage of integrating my system, and have generated some iozone results which I find somewhat confusing. To keep things simple, I'll present results for two drives, reformatted for ease of reading: File time/rate time/rate Disk Type Size Write Read ST32155N 96 47.546531 23.678264 2117153 4251295 ST31230N 96 40.117056 31.307740 2509239 3215284 Times are in seconds, rates in MB/s. These results are pretty much in line with my expectations. The first drive is a new 2G drive, the second is a six-month-old 1G drive. When I run iozone simultaneously on both drives, I get: ST32155N 96 60.445505 44.016738 1665356 2286932 ST31230N 96 71.104663 44.216729 1415705 2276588 Looking closely, the sum of the read times is around 4.5MB/s. When I throw a third drive into the mix, rates still top out at around 4.5MB/s. Now, I realize that this is hardly a scientific test. So I wrote a small program to read a large file and report the MB/s continuously, wrapping around at the end of the file, and the times were about the same. I also tried different buffer sizes, and no go. It just won't really go over about 4.5MB/s. If I let things run for awhile and settle down, it might get combined rates to 4.6MB/s or 4.8MB/s, but I'm expecting at least 6MB/s! With larger blocks (8192), I see combined rates to nearly 5.0MB/s, but by then the seperate rates are higher, too! I've looked for configuration options. It's an ASUS PCI-SC200 or somesuch card, and there really _aren't_ any configuration options besides termination - the ASUS and Symbios home pages claim 10MB/s. Likewise, the drives don't have any relevant options, and Seagate's home page claims Fast SCSI-II for both drives. And the driver has no options, with NeXT's home page making no claims at all :-). Any ideas? Is it a driver problem? [Lack of command queuing? Does the "Synchronous" switch in Config.app _really_ work?] A general NeXTSTEP problem? Incorrect user expectations? That apparent wall at around 5MB/s makes me _really_ suspicious, especially since it seems to hold at about the same place whether I am streaming from two drives or three. Is there any way to figure out whether the bus, or particular devices, are _really_ doing Fast SCSI-II? Not that I'm really _complaining_, mind you. This system builds Backspace in :51 as it is :-). Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208
From: kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Treasure) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Diskless Intel client?? Date: 23 Oct 1996 14:53:25 -0700 Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO Message-ID: <54m44l$cm2@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> I was thinking of burning an EPROM to get an Intel machine to be a diskless client... My question... Will a 'black' machine recognize the Intel machine as a NeXT and actually tell it how to boot? -Kristin -- THIS IS A 100% MATTER PRODUCT: In the Unlikely Event That This Merchandise Should Contact Antimatter in Any Form, a Catastrophic Explosion Will Result. http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~kamundse/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: abosse@midway.uchicago.edu (arno bosse) Subject: SupraSonic 33.6 w/NS Message-ID: <Dzr4Lw.MAG@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:15:31 GMT Several weeks ago there were a series of posts about people using the new SupraSonics with NS. I'm considering buying one for use with a NST - would one of the (hopefully happy...) Supra owners please let me know whether he/she bought the Mac or PC versions and how (if at all) they managed to get this to work? I apologize for the naive tone of the message - I've never set-up a modem before. I'm planning, eventually, to set-up SLIP under NS 3.3 but will settle for dial-up POP access for the time being. Any pointers would be kindly appreciated, Arno -- -------------------------- Arno Bosse Comparative Literature
From: Tito <talugtu@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: "Panic" message Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:33:07 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <326EAB33.4EE0@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings NeXT Community! After using my NeXT Color Station for 30 mins ... the machine goes to another window (ROM Monitor)... "panic" What is wrong w/ my system ... any comments? thanx tito
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: aslater@jocko.bri.hp.com () Subject: Re: Any other HP DAT autoloader users out there? Sender: news@bri.hp.com (News User) Message-ID: <Dzqpvs.EMF@bri.hp.com> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:57:28 GMT References: <543179$5bn@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware William Barker (wrb@biostr.washington.edu) wrote: : I'd like to talk with other HP DAT autoloader (1553a) users about their : successes and failures using the device with black hardware. Please email : if you're interested. I'm interested :-) Officially, if you ask then you'll get the answer 'unsupported'. It should go okay but leave you somewhat sparsely supported for robotics ... there's a utility called mtx on the other platforms that lets you swap tapes from the command line. There's not a NeXT port of this at the moment, nor is there likely to be (my old 68k box at home doesn't play nice enough to hack on -- somewhat dead) ... but there's no reason _technically_ why it couldn't be done (the driver has got a scsi pass through). The only other thing that springs to mind is that the driver itself is wildly unconfigurable. You get an additional set of device files for Exabyte drives, but other than that, you're stuck with what you get, no obvious driver tweakable files or static items in st that could adb to change the behaviour. ([1]) oh well... let me know if it's really causing you grief and I'll be happy to help out if at all possible... regards, al (not speaking for HP..) [1] -- okay. I've only got 3.0 and only ever seen 3.0. It might be a better state of affairs as of 4.x or the intel flavour.
From: Mark.A.Tarbell@jpl.nasa.gov (Mark Tarbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: 13W3 cable pinouts... Date: 23 Oct 1996 23:54:09 GMT Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory - Pasadena CA Message-ID: <54mb71$t0s@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <sk68-0101042340520001@cu-dialup-0049.cit.cornell.edu> <54loq7$slt@news.wco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <54loq7$slt@news.wco.com> Mike Paquette wrote, in part: > The NeXTdimension board and monitor just use the three coax connectors > in the 13W3 connector. The pins are not used. > > On the other hand, the pins are usedin the NeXTStation Color and Color > Turbo box. The pins are not used by the monitor on the NeXTStation Color or Color Turbo; only the RGB coax plugs are connected on the monitor socket. The pins are, of course, used by the sound box. Mark
From: youngsoo@dragon.inha.ac.kr (Youngsoo Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does NS3.3J not support NE2000 Compatibles? Date: 24 Oct 1996 02:18:27 GMT Organization: Korea Research Environment Open Network (KREONet) Message-ID: <54mjlj$l4f@newsfeed.kreonet.re.kr> Dear NS3.3 Users, I installed PCI based ethernet adapter RTL-XXXX(Realtek) which is NE2000 compatible. Configure.app works fine and SNS setup process looks me fine. But in the middle of booting process, NS recognizes my adapter and prints out like "no responses from my adapter...time out time out.." And after boot, No network application works. In the command prompt, ifconfig -a and netstat -nr results are fine. I use NeXTSTEP 3.3J and P120 machine. NEX000 driver ver 0.97 for my adapter Please, post the related information. Thanks in advance, g9511108@inhavision.inha.ac.kr
From: dblakele@acpub.duke.edu (Dean Blakeley MD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hardware Upgrade Questions? Date: 23 Oct 1996 23:02:55 -0400 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <54mm8v$12n@news.duke.edu> Sorry if this seems a little stale, but I've had to spend career time away from these groups for a while. I've got a '040 Cube running NS3.2 with a Maxtor 660 HD and a DoveFax 24/96 that's been puttering along fine for years now. I've decided to do one last set of upgrades on the old critter and need some info. I mainly use the machine to do personal productivity kinds of stuff, but no development. Also, I've been doing some light Web browsing using my shell account and lynx and Duke. What I need to know is whether I need to upgrade to NS3.3 or not, as well as tips for a new modem and hard drive. The keyboard and the Cube housing are probably the only original things left when this unit shipped out of the factory in '89. I've got 28 MB of RAM packed into the slots right now, and will probably need to chunk some and pop some others in. Any pointers for these would be helpful as well. Thanks for now. I'm really not in the mood to get rid of the black hardware because of the legacy files and apps I've built up over the years. Peace | Dean D Blakeley, MD \\// This ain't no party, this ain't no disco | | Jones St Family Medicine _\/_ This ain't no fooling around - D. Byrne | | 618 West Jones Street \\// Office Tel # (919) 755-1888 | | Raleigh NC 27603 \/ #include <disclaim.whsi.h> | -- | Dean D Blakeley, MD \\// This ain't no party, this ain't no disco | | Jones St Family Medicine _\/_ This ain't no fooling around - D. Byrne | | 618 West Jones Street \\// Office Tel # (919) 755-1888 | | Raleigh NC 27603 \/ #include <disclaim.whsi.h> |
From: YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Exchange Mac modem cable to NeXT Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:10:44 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <326EEBD3.4A31@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) wrote: >I bought a Mac modem cable with hardware flow control. I took the >cable apart to check out the wiring and it was definitely incorrect >for the NeXT. I did some resoldering and it works fine, now. This >was probably the easiest way for me to make a NeXT modem cable without >having to buy the parts individually. Ok, If it so easy, I will try too. Please show me the way. How can I make the NeXT modem cable? The following is Mac modem cable to NeXT modem cabling. Is that correct? And What is the "hardware flow control"? How can I check the "hardware flow control" of my Mac modem cable? DIN-8 DB-25 signal means direction 1 20 DTR data terminal ready to modem 2 8 DCD data carrier detect from modem 3 2 TD transmitted data to modem 4 7 SG signal ground n/a 5 3 RD received data from modem 6 4 RTS request to send to modem 7 NC 8 5 CTS clear to send from modem Thanks, YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, BeBox News and Info)
From: jut@ukrv.de (J.-U. Thieme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Diskless Intel client?? Date: 24 Oct 1996 07:39:58 GMT Organization: Charité - Virchow-Klinikum , Medical Faculty of Humboldt-University in Berlin Message-ID: <54n6ge$mok@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <54m44l$cm2@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> Cc: kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu In <54m44l$cm2@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> Treasure wrote: > > I was thinking of burning an EPROM to get an Intel machine to > be a diskless client... > > My question... > > Will a 'black' machine recognize the Intel machine as a NeXT and > actually tell it how to boot? Sorry ! Diskless ? and swap over the network ? CIAO JUT > > -Kristin > > -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.- U. Thieme - -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jut@ukrv.de or jut@rz.charite.hu-berlin.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 66127 - - fax: +49 30 450 66937 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - -------------------------------------------------------------- - "I am saddened -- not by Microsoft's success, I have no - - problem with their success, they've earned their success - - ...for the most part -- I have a problem with the fact - - that they just make really third-rate products." - - - - Steven Paul Jobs - --------------------------------------------------------------
From: Tower (Tower) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATTN: David Evans - Thanks for the modem info!!! Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:13:12 GMT Organization: Tower Message-ID: <326f24dd.1468984@netnews.worldnet.att.net>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hans@onevision.de (Johann Adalbert Stoeger) Subject: Re: Two Displays on NS/Intel? Message-ID: <DzrwwF.EAH@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <54l260$oop@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:26:39 GMT In article <54l260$oop@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> vsafran@ukrv.de (Volker Safran) writes: > James Michel wrote in comp.sys.next.hardware: > > > > I run NeXTSTEP 3.3 on an Intel 486/120 and would like to add another > > display to this PC. Can this be done on Intel like the Black? If > > so, what are the steps I need to take in order to do this? > > > > It is possible with two ELSA Winner cards and the appropriate driver. > As far as I remember, there was at least one other option. Was it > Matrox or was it Number Nine? > It IS the Matrox Millenium and it works here. ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
From: Joe_Keenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Diskless Intel client?? Date: 24 Oct 1996 15:10:14 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <54o0sm$jod@news.next.com> References: <54m44l$cm2@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> In article <54m44l$cm2@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu> kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Treasure) writes: # #I was thinking of burning an EPROM to get an Intel machine to #be a diskless client... # #My question... # #Will a 'black' machine recognize the Intel machine as a NeXT and #actually tell it how to boot? It could, if your EPROM was smart enough. But I don't think that's possible. Intel systems running NS boot by loading the kernel, and then loading the device drivers individually (boot loaders). All this needs to be done using BIOS calls before the mach kernel is actually up and running (and you could use NFS). Creating a boot EPROM to load the kernel would be doable, but I don't think you could make it smart enough to intercept the BIOS calls to load the device drivers. joe
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: repair of NeXTStation monochrome monitor? Date: 24 Oct 1996 20:22:18 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <54oj5q$mhb@news.tamu.edu> Anyone know of a place that will repair or have parts for the NeXTStation monochrome monitor? Stephen Johnson
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Video Card (ISA/PCI) that works with NeXT 21" Monitor Date: 24 Oct 1996 20:18:32 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <54oiuo$mfe@news.tamu.edu> References: <545m7o$klq@maverick.tad.eds.com> You might check here: PCG 800-255-9893 for their photo torpedo card pc to NeXT monitor Stephen In article <545m7o$klq@maverick.tad.eds.com> lnusgmb.nz4jc0@eds.com (Chandra K. Puttanna) writes: > hi! > Is there any video card that works with NeXT 21" Monitor. > Chandra K. Puttanna
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PC monitor on Next? Date: 24 Oct 1996 20:16:41 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <54oir9$met@news.tamu.edu> References: <543hs3$rvc@decaxp.harvard.edu> Dancing Bear from what I understand has a monitor conversion cable for the following monitors: Digital VR16 multi-sync EIZO FlexScan F563-T NANAO's 17'' T217 $1148 Nanao Flexscan 550i Samsung 17GLsi Phillips Brilliance 17" You can contact Tim@dancingbear.com Stephen In article <543hs3$rvc@decaxp.harvard.edu> paulg@fas-news.harvard.edu (Paul Guglielmino) writes: > Can I run a pc (vga connector) monitor on a next? I'm thinking of buying a next but do not know a lot about the differences between models. Is there a faq or similiar source of info on the net? > > Thanks, > Paul > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Paul Guglielmino \|/ Sysadming is a burden, > paulg@law.harvard.edu (o o) not a priviledge. > ------------------------------------oOO-(_)-OOo------= Aaron Marsh =-----
From: mrozek@eecs.umich.edu (Eric M. Mrozek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 16 MB SIMMs in Color NextStation? Date: 24 Oct 1996 21:10:55 GMT Organization: University of Michigan EECS Message-ID: <54om0v$n6u@news.eecs.umich.edu> I have some empty slots in my nextstation. The documentation says that it was designed to handle 16MB SIMMs, but hadn't been tested with any because they didn't exist yet. If I buy 16MB SIMMs, will they work in my machine? Eric
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NCR, NeXTSTEP, and Fast SCSI-II. Date: 24 Oct 1996 22:41:47 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <vee20enwys4.fsf@shell.one.net> References: <vee4tjlnxng.fsf@shell.one.net> In-reply-to: shess@shell.one.net's message of 23 Oct 1996 18:06:27 -0400 In article <vee4tjlnxng.fsf@shell.one.net>, shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) writes: It just won't really go over about 4.5MB/s. If I let things run for awhile and settle down, it might get combined rates to 4.6MB/s or 4.8MB/s, but I'm expecting at least 6MB/s! With larger blocks (8192), I see combined rates to nearly 5.0MB/s, but by then the seperate rates are higher, too! Well, here's another nail for that coffin - I just finished installing Linux on this same system, and for the ST32155N drive that gave 4.2MB/s under NeXTSTEP, iozone puts it in the region of 5.0MB/s under Linux. Though I'm not in a position to test how fast multiple drives can go at the same time tonight, I have little doubt that they'll be faster than 5MB/s when I do test it. "I'm a GUI, not a SCSI driver. Spock, give me a hand!" -- scott hess <shess@one.net> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 (Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208
From: colin@hcl.com (sysadmin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Museum lookinig for working NeXT Date: 24 Oct 1996 16:29:36 GMT Organization: Hummingbird Communications Message-ID: <54o5hg$p8q@news.hcl.com> please donate your NeXT computer in working condition to the reBOOT Canada Computer Museum. Email info@reboot.on.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: 5th RAM(?) slot on Turbo slab? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DzsnJ3.H62@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 19:01:50 GMT References: <54ldpf$1vp@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <54ldpf$1vp@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>, Babak Ashrafi <ashrafi@mit.edu> wrote: >I just got a Turbo Slab that needs a little refurbishing before it will run. >It has 4 RAM slots together, and separately, it has what looks like a fifth, >near the hard disk. What is that for? > It's for RAM expansion for the DSP. The boards are pretty near impossible to find now. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: DanieM@di.denel.co.za (Danie Malan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3.3 Installation problem - Out of memory ? Date: 25 Oct 96 12:56:33 GMT Organization: pipex-sa.net Message-ID: <3270b901.0@newsiax.denel.co.za> Strangest installation problem yet - Out of memory ?!! I've just tried to install NEXTSTEP 3.3 on an Intel 486 DX4-100 system PH4500AM Motherboard (ISA, VL & PCI) with Award BIOS V4.50G. I boot off the install floppy and get NEXTSTEP boot1 V 3.3.3.8 Sizing memory .......32768K Out of memory ..And the machine promptly hangs. The BIOS reports no problems and picks up the memory OK. I've also tried various changes to the BIOS setup (disabling cache etc.) and swapped memory with known good memory from other machines, but no luck. For the hell-of-it I tried the OpenStep 4.0 install floppy and this didn't cause the same error. (Only problem is that I need to install 3.3) Any ideas ? TIA ! Regards Danie Malan Mailto: DanieM@di.denel.co.za (NeXTmail, MIME & ASCII welcome) CAIRO=NT+OPENSTEP !
From: bomb@localhost.erols.com (Scott Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Maximun Memory on Intel Hardware Date: 25 Oct 1996 13:49:21 GMT Organization: FirstSight Inc. Message-ID: <54qgh1$f11@boursy.news.erols.com> I tried to use >96 mb of memory in an intel pentium pro by compaq and my machine gets slower .I am using NextStep 3.3 . Is there support for this amount of memory in OS 4.x? Scott Turner FirstSight Inc. http://www.1stsight.com vision@1stsight.com
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NCR, NeXTSTEP, and Fast SCSI-II. Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 16:38:34 +0200 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.961025163345.12910C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <vee4tjlnxng.fsf@shell.one.net> <vee20enwys4.fsf@shell.one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <vee20enwys4.fsf@shell.one.net> On 24 Oct 1996, Scott Hess wrote: > In article <vee4tjlnxng.fsf@shell.one.net>, > It just won't really go over about 4.5MB/s. If I let things run for > awhile and settle down, it might get combined rates to 4.6MB/s or > 4.8MB/s, but I'm expecting at least 6MB/s! With larger blocks (8192), > I see combined rates to nearly 5.0MB/s, but by then the seperate rates > are higher, too! > > Well, here's another nail for that coffin - I just finished installing > Linux on this same system, and for the ST32155N drive that gave > 4.2MB/s under NeXTSTEP, iozone puts it in the region of 5.0MB/s under > Linux. Though I'm not in a position to test how fast multiple drives > First fact: The NeXT drive _is_ slower than other drivers for other systems. E.g. Linux drivers are very fast. This is because e.g. NeXT's NCR driver is lacking command queuing and probably other opmization features. Second: You won't reach the 10MB/sec limit of SCSI with any SCSI-II drive. This limit is only the maximum a drive can push over an SCSI-II bus. (non wide). The maximum read rate of drives is about 4-6MB. It's just a physical limitation of todays drives! However a drive can report faster, if the data is already in the drives cache, but testprograms try to avoid the cache to get real life results (who is reading 512kB from the drives cache continiously?) Greetings, Bernhard.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: low level hd format software? Date: 25 Oct 1996 15:57:22 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <54qo13$26j@news4.digex.net> Hi all, Is there some hdform software for NS? If not, does anyone know of any dos software that will do a low level hd format? I cannot seem to get rid of one of next's boot* programs no matter what I do... fdisk /mbr doesn't do it... Any pointers will be appreciated. Thanks :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy...It's coming... | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <1996Oct25.185235@eucmax> From: canape@eucmax.sim.ucm.es Date: 25 Oct 96 18:52:35 GMT Organization: Universidad Complutense de Madrid I`VE GOT A PROBLEM! WHEN I`M WORKING WITH MS-DOS MY COMPUTER CAN`T FIND THE SERIAL PORTS. WELL, IT CAN, BUT IT FINDS COM3 AND COM4 INSTEAD OF COM1 AND COM2. THIS WAY, WHEN I TRY TO WORK WITH WINDOWS 3.1 IT IS UNABLE TO FIND THE SERIAL PORT COM1 AND MY MOUSE DOESN`T WORK. I KNOW IT`S NOT A PROBLEM WITH THE MOUSE CONFIGURATION UNDER WINDOWS. COULD ANYBODY TELL ME WHY THIS HAPPEN AND HOW CAN I FIX IT? THANS A LOT
From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Experiences with TwinHead or other portables for NS? Date: 25 Oct 1996 16:26:29 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison Distribution: world Message-ID: <54qpnl$1ol0@news.doit.wisc.edu> Keywords: portable openstep computer I am looking to upgrade from my Thinkpad to a portable with a larger screen and pentium for running OpenStep. I am getting a price quote from OptimalObject on a Twinhead. Has anyone had experience with those? How do they work? A feature missing on my thinkpad under OS that I would like to have working is Suspend/Resume (i.e. where everything but power to the memory is suspended). Does that work? What about other portables? My minimum criteria are: - 800x600 color screen with available NS driver - Pentium - Functioning suspend/resume (and hibernate - does that ever work in NS/OS?) and other Power Management features - Good service & support Any information would be appreciated. -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Experiences with TwinHead or other portables for NS? Date: 25 Oct 1996 18:15:42 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <54r04f$26j@news4.digex.net> References: <54qpnl$1ol0@news.doit.wisc.edu> giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) wrote: > What about other portables? My minimum criteria are: > - 800x600 color screen with available NS driver > - Pentium > - Functioning suspend/resume (and hibernate - does that ever work in NS/OS?) and other Power Management features > - Good service & support Well, it depends on how much money you want to spend. But the new Toshiba 730 has a nice large 12.1" screen It does 1024X768. I'm not sure if it does it in 16bit color or 8 bit though... It's a pretty fast pentium. I don't know about the suspend/resume feature, but I've gotten the impression that the toshiba, for no know reason to bme, seems to be one of the better NS supported laptops. What I'd like to know is...are there any pc laptops out yet that do 1280X1024 pixels at 16bit color or more? I need that size... The closest thing now is the toshiba, which supports 1280X1024 externally and in a harware pan/zoom mode (though I think the pan/zoom will likely be UNsupported under NS, but I'd love to hear other wise). Still, having the actual 1280X1024 would really help my project... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit )^> %^) =^) monoChrome, Inc. | New York Law School NEXTSTEP Developer | Opinions expressed represent me only MIME, SUN, & NeXTmail OK | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy...It's coming... | http://cnj.digex.net/~jkheit
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maximun Memory on Intel Hardware Date: 25 Oct 1996 17:38:56 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <54qtvg$4pe@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <54qgh1$f11@boursy.news.erols.com> In article <54qgh1$f11@boursy.news.erols.com> bomb@localhost.erols.com (Scott Turner) writes: > I tried to use >96 mb of memory in an intel pentium pro by compaq and my > machine gets slower .I am using NextStep 3.3 . Is there support for this > amount of memory in OS 4.x? Oftentimes, this slowness is not the fault of the system software, but in limitations of the motherboard. Many motherboards will cache only the first 64MB of RAM. OS 4.x (or any OS, for that matter) cannot overcome this, other than limiting usable ram to 64MB. -- Rex Dieter Computer System Manager Department of Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska Lincoln
From: rdubey@cisco.com (Rakesh Dubey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NCR, NeXTSTEP, and Fast SCSI-II. Date: 25 Oct 1996 12:01:52 -0700 Organization: Cisco Systems Inc. Sender: rdubey@Fountainhead.Cisco.com Message-ID: <wupw2698bj.fsf@Fountainhead.Cisco.com> References: <vee4tjlnxng.fsf@shell.one.net> <vee20enwys4.fsf@shell.one.net> In-reply-to: shess@shell.one.net's message of 24 Oct 1996 22:41:47 -0400 In article <vee20enwys4.fsf@shell.one.net> shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > In article <vee4tjlnxng.fsf@shell.one.net>, > shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > It just won't really go over about 4.5MB/s. If I let things run for > awhile and settle down, it might get combined rates to 4.6MB/s or > 4.8MB/s, but I'm expecting at least 6MB/s! With larger blocks (8192), > I see combined rates to nearly 5.0MB/s, but by then the seperate rates > are higher, too! > > Well, here's another nail for that coffin - I just finished installing > Linux on this same system, and for the ST32155N drive that gave > 4.2MB/s under NeXTSTEP, iozone puts it in the region of 5.0MB/s under > Linux. Though I'm not in a position to test how fast multiple drives > can go at the same time tonight, I have little doubt that they'll be > faster than 5MB/s when I do test it. > Scott, you should also give bonnie a try. This is considered somewhat more reliable than iozone. You should be able to find this on the net somewhere. I am not saying that comparative results will differ though.. -Rakesh
From: Ben Konjkav <ben@photonweb.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Video Card (ISA/PCI) that works with NeXT 21" Monitor Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 11:38:02 -0700 Organization: PCG Message-ID: <3271090A.45E8@photonweb.com> References: <545m7o$klq@maverick.tad.eds.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chandra K. Puttanna wrote: > > hi! > Is there any video card that works with NeXT 21" Monitor. > Chandra K. Puttanna Check out http://www.photonweb.com/next/ for the video card that has been designed to run your monitor on a PC under dos, windows, 95... or call 310-260-4747 Ext. 747 Ben
From: Thomas Tesch <tesch@darmstadt.gmd.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI devices damaging filesystems?? Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:40:25 +0200 Organization: GMD-IPSI Message-ID: <326E1239.6245@darmstadt.gmd.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since I disconnected my HP Scanner from my 040 NextCube the system does not boot anymore!! Following messages are thrown: boot command: sd boot sd(0,0,0) booting scsi target 1, lun 0 blk0 boot: sd()sdmach Booting from scsi target 1 lun 0 unknown binary format load failed blk0 boot: Have anybody ever had a damaged file system because of removing SCSI devices, esp. this strange HP scanner with it even more strange ScanTastic software?? The SCSI controller had always problems connecting the scanner device but it worked (several messages at boot time). I guess the scanner locks the SCSI bus hard. The bus was terminated and everything was taken care of when it was removed. The mysterious thing is that is happened now the 2nd time. I guess there is no way to fix or rescue anything. Trying to mount the disk from a working system is the last change. Please let me now whether you have similar experiences and how you resolved the problem? Thanks, Thomas Tesch
From: johannes@scribes.english.uiuc.edu (John B. Friedman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: wanted info on Xytel modem people Date: 25 Oct 1996 22:35:53 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <54rfc9$e80@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Please send me the phone number of the Xytel modem and e-mail connectivity opeople. Thanks John Friedman
Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: EZ 135 -> EZFlyer Upgrade Program -- STILL NOTHING Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961025140005.23405B-100000@charisma> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 14:20:08 -0400 Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It is now the end of the 6th week since I was first in contact with SyQuest about their upgrade program for owners of the EZ135 drive. Still nothing. I have been talking with the sales-staff, who told me that the 21st of Oct was the day. When I called on the 21st, they said that there was still nothing when I told them that I was now disappointed that I had ever bought their product, the (very helpful) sales rep sent me to the office of the guy who is in charge of this program. I have been in contact with his office three times this week. Monday was told he was out of the office, Tuesday he was in meetings, and today there was still no word. His secretary now answers the phone "Hi Tim, how are you?" She was very apologetic and said that she has been talking with him about this and he just has not been able to get what I'm guessing are the "final details" worked out. They are having a meeting tomorrow (Saturday) in which she promised to bring up the issue again, and then she asked me to call back Monday, saying "If I don't have an answer for you Monday, I'll let you talk to him directly, whether or not he's in a meeting!" Well, I'm working on a snail-mail letter, just in case..... Anyway, I will post on Monday sometime after noon with what I hope will be "the final word" on the subject. TjL
From: Nate Hurst <nhurst@eai.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ?? ISDN and NeXT Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 17:50:12 -0500 Organization: Engineering Animation Message-ID: <32714424.41C6@eai.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone used ISDN and NeXT black hardware? Which modems? etc. I would be interested in any comments you have. Thanks nate -- nhurst@eai.com Nate Hurst, Production Programmer Engineering Animation Inc., 2321 N Loop Dr., Ames IA 50010 Phone: (515) 296-9908
From: Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: low level hd format software? Date: 25 Oct 1996 23:59:57 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <54rk9t$2cc@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> References: <54qo13$26j@news4.digex.net> <54re2q$50r@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: >John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: >> Is there some hdform software for NS? If not, does anyone know of any >dos software that will do a low level hd format? I cannot seem to get rid >of one of next's boot* programs no matter what I do... fdisk /mbr doesn't >do it... > >Let me just clarify. I do know that sdformat and others will let me do a >low level format on SCSI drives. I need a program that will allow me to do >low level formats on (E)IDE drives... > >Anyone know of any such things? Any pointers would be really appreciated. >Thanks :) Believe me, you don't want to do that. Real low-leveling of an (E)IDE drive will result in the drive becoming unusable. I've never had problems with getting rid of boot sectors via fdisk /mbr. Regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com>, office: ckuhtz@paranet.com Network/UNIX Specialist for Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ Supercomputing Junkie, et al MIME/NeXTmail accepted
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NCR, NeXTSTEP, and Fast SCSI-II. Date: 26 Oct 1996 04:46:13 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <54s52l$hqq@nntp1.best.com> References: <vee4tjlnxng.fsf@shell.one.net> In-Reply-To: <vee4tjlnxng.fsf@shell.one.net> On 10/23/96, Scott Hess wrote: >Any ideas? Is it a driver problem? [Lack of command queuing? This may be a partial contributing factor but I'm not sure how much of an impact it has in real world measurable performance. >[Does >the "Synchronous" switch in Config.app _really_ work?] The synchronous switch definitely works - turn it off and repeat your benchmarks if you doubt it. I just did and iozone results dropped by about 30%. >A general NeXTSTEP problem? NeXTSTEP's filesystem or driver system seems to be a big part of the problem - with the same exact hardware I've consistently found that other Unix's with a better filesystem perform 50-100% better than NEXTSTEP. >That apparent wall at around 5MB/s makes me _really_ suspicious, >especially since it seems to hold at about the same place whether I am >streaming from two drives or three. Is there any way to figure out >whether the bus, or particular devices, are _really_ doing Fast >SCSI-II? I have a feeling that the performance wall is due to factors other than the SCSI bus speed. >Now, I realize that this is hardly a scientific test. So I wrote a >small program to read a large file and report the MB/s continuously, >wrapping around at the end of the file, and the times were about the >same. I also tried different buffer sizes, and no go. P.S. I'd be interested in seeing your benchmark program. >Backspace in :51 as it is :-). If you REALLY want to boost performance throw one of the DPT SmartSCSI IV caching controllers in the system. I've heard nothing but rave reviews about them. It's a shame you have to throw so much money/horsepower at the problem to get better disk performance. (P.S. In my experience there was less than 10% difference in performance between NCR and Adaptec Fast SCSI-II controllers.) >Later, >-- >scott hess <shess@one.net> http://www.winternet.com/~shess/ >Work: 288 Rampart Court #105, Ft Mitchell, KY, 41017 (606) 578-0412 >(Was) 12550 Portland Avenue South #121, Burnsville, MN 55337 (612)895-1208 > --
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Are big drives a problem for NEXTSTEP? Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:47:12 +0200 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <326C6DF0.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.961021191530.7967B-100000@lipschitz> <Pine.SUN.3.95.961021181321.5135E-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy Luoma wrote: > > Over 2 gigs is not possible for NeXTStep without partitioning > > I believe that OpenStep has done away with this, but don't know for sure. > > TjL > Still the same in OpenStep 4.0 The limit is 2 GB. May be you have to reduce a new 2GB drive by one or two MB to fit in the limit for sure. I shaw the OS4.0 installation splitting a 2GB drive in two 1GB automatically. Go to fdisk while installing the OS and make a 2GB partition. -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: : Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: NeXTdimension bootstrap Date: 25 Oct 1996 22:01:33 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <54rdbt$2cc@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> Hi guys: Anyone know the answer to this one? I have a cube with 4 boards in it (1x040, 3x030), and it is working just fine... and I am thinking about building a system with the following configuration (nice to have spares flying around ;-): 1x040-25 board 2x030-25 boards 1xNeXTdimension board Will this work? How does the NeXTdimension find its host?.. At some point the CPU board attempts to bootstrap the ND, but what exactly determines which of the boards will bootstrap it and where is this information kept? Thanks so much in advance! Regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com>, office: ckuhtz@paranet.com Network/UNIX Specialist for Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ MIME/NeXTmail accepted
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Copying my boot drive to a new hard disk Date: 26 Oct 1996 05:15:20 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <54s6p8$cvl@news.digifix.com> I have a SCSI boot drive running alot of stuff, and I'm wondering what is required to just copy all that stuff on there to a new drive, and still be able to boot from it. I can't really afford the time to reinstall and get everything working on it, so I'm hoping that I can somehow just copy everything over intact, and then re-write the boot blocks.. By the looks of the man pages, I should be able to use ditto for most of the copying... How do I write out the boot blocks? -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI devices damaging filesystems?? Date: 26 Oct 1996 06:38:18 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <54sbkq$2cc@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> References: <326E1239.6245@darmstadt.gmd.de> Thomas Tesch <tesch@darmstadt.gmd.de> wrote: >Since I disconnected my HP Scanner from my 040 NextCube the system >does not boot anymore!! Following messages are thrown: > >boot command: sd >boot sd(0,0,0) >booting scsi target 1, lun 0 >blk0 boot: sd()sdmach >Booting from scsi target 1 lun 0 >unknown binary format >load failed > >blk0 boot: Some of the HP scanners have internal termination. Did you put an external terminator on the bus to replace the lack of termination? Do you have other external SCSI devices hanging off of the NeXTcube CPU board? The above error message looks to me like a SCSI bus mess due to lack of termination. Regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com>, office: ckuhtz@paranet.com Network/UNIX Specialist for Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ Supercomputing Junkie, et al MIME/NeXTmail accepted
From: dan@tome.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Johnston,S740A,7985984,7217266) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Experiences with TwinHead or other portables for NS? Date: 26 Oct 1996 12:06:47 GMT Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx Distribution: world Message-ID: <54susn$roq@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> References: <54qpnl$1ol0@news.doit.wisc.edu> Cc: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu In <54qpnl$1ol0@news.doit.wisc.edu> Michael Giddings wrote: --> I am looking to upgrade from my Thinkpad to a portable with a larger screen --> and pentium for running OpenStep. --> --> I am getting a price quote from OptimalObject on a Twinhead. Has anyone had --> experience with those? How do they work? A feature missing on my thinkpad --> under OS that I would like to have working is Suspend/Resume (i.e. where --> everything but power to the memory is suspended). Does that work? --> --> What about other portables? My minimum criteria are: --> - 800x600 color screen with available NS driver --> - Pentium --> - Functioning suspend/resume (and hibernate - does that ever work in NS/OS?) --> and other Power Management features --> - Good service & support --> I have a tecra 720 and have been VERY happy with it. I have also used the twinhead. It has a nice feel to it, but it's battery life is very short compared to the tecra. There is no suspend mode in Nextstep but there is under windows95. dan -- Dan Johnston Division of Neuroscience Baylor College of Medicine 1 Baylor Plaza Houston, TX 77030 Internet: dan@mossy.bcm.tmc.edu (NeXTmail ok) Voice Phone: (713) 798-5984 FAX: (713)799-8544 or 798-3946
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dimension problem - need help Date: 26 Oct 1996 14:07:28 GMT Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC. Message-ID: <54t5v0$q7p@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Howdy! I recently got myself a used NeXT Dimension board (Tells me in /usr/adm/messages: PAL, 20 MByte DRAM on boot). Unfortunately it came with absolutely zero documentation. I put it into the second slot from the left side (when looked from behind) of my NeXT Cube and it works quite ok, well, almost... Today I tried to connect my video recorder to it. It is an old model with video output only. (No S-VHS), So I connected the video output to the port A (of the dimension card). The effect was zero. Using NeXTtv and VideoApp I was not able to see any difference to the unconnected port. I switched all input ports but I saw nothing (execpt a bit static when gamma is set too high). I have an effect when I switch to the S-VHS port and toggle the video recorder connection I can see very faint ghost images. Am I doing something wrong? Do I use the wrong port? Is the Dimension not able to read the PAL video signal of my video recorder (the recorder works fine when connected to a normal Sony TV by BNC->SCART connector)? What are these ports on the backside of the Dimension anyway? Oh well, maybe someone can enlighten me... Thanks Frank -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961026122450.1712A-100000@charisma> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:25:53 -0400 References: <1996Oct25.185235@eucmax> In-Reply-To: <1996Oct25.185235@eucmax> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I`VE GOT A PROBLEM! the first problem you have is an overactive CAPS LOCK button > WHEN I`M WORKING WITH MS-DOS herein lies the second problem....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: help! problem booting Message-ID: <DzvCwu.38y@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <54k2pj$o9d@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 06:05:17 GMT In article <54k2pj$o9d@netnews.upenn.edu> ewagner@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (Earl Wagner) writes: > I am using a NextStation Color running 3.2 and I just hooked up a Next > Printer yesterday. When I tried to boot up today, I got the "Loading from > Disk" screen which then switched to "Next Mach Operating System" screen > which seems to be doing alright until: > > ... > root on sd0 > > > boot_rc > > > boot_rc > > > boot_rc > ... > > I can get into the rom monitor but trying to boot in single user > is unsuccessful because it ends up in the same situation. > Most likely you messed up your SCSI bus. Check cabling and termination as well as the IDs of your devices. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: leo@BLaCKSMITH.com (Leo Turetsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 100/10 Ethernet cards for PCI. Date: 25 Oct 1996 16:26:31 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <54qpnn$652@BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <veehgnojx11.fsf@shell.one.net> Scott Hess writes > Anyone have recommendations as to the most reasonable 100/10 Ethernet > card for NeXTSTEP that plugs into PCI? Apparently the 3Com cards are > out of the picture, as there are no drivers for the PCI version. How > about "DEC 21140" ($95) and "SMC 9332" ($119)? (Prices from > www.atipa.com.) The Cogent EM110's work really well for us and they use the 21140 chipset from DEC. leo. +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Leo Turetsky | BLaCKSMITH, Inc. (NeXTmail OK) | | leo@blacksmith.com | OPENSTEP Systems Administrator | +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Nah-ne kah-sah tahng-tah? <esp> Leo, your mom called. | +-------------------------------------------------------+
From: shawk@panix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ?? ISDN and NeXT Date: 26 Oct 1996 21:40:56 GMT Organization: Digital Telemedia Inc. Message-ID: <54u0h8$8g8@maceo.dti.net> References: <32714424.41C6@eai.com> Cc: nhurst@eai.com In <32714424.41C6@eai.com> Nate Hurst wrote: > Has anyone used ISDN and NeXT black hardware? Which modems? etc. > > I would be interested in any comments you have. > > Thanks > nate > > Ascend P50. Works fine. Regards
From: sneal@ichips.intel.com (Scott M. Neal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Turbo cube not booting... Date: 26 Oct 1996 22:02:43 GMT Organization: Intel Development Labs, INTeL Corporation Message-ID: <54u1q3$rbi@news.jf.intel.com> I'm trying to install a Turbo Cube board into my cube to replace my '030 board, but it's not working... Upon power-up, all of the internal tests pass, and it attempts to boot from the hard disk. After only a few seconds, however, it dumps me into the monitor with the following message: Exception #5 (0x14) at pc 0x100efa0 sp 0x67ff0be The sticker on the box says that it will work with NeXTStep 2.1 or better (I'm trying 2.1), but I wonder if I really do need a more current OS for it to function, or if the board is fried somehow... Please help, I just got the board! Scott
From: mdadgar@auspex.com (Mark Dadgar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Experiences with TwinHead or other portables for NS? Date: 26 Oct 1996 20:06:27 GMT Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara Distribution: world Message-ID: <54tr03$3sa@alpha1.auspex.com> References: <54susn$roq@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> In article <54susn$roq@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> dan@tome.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Johnston,S740A,7985984,7217266) writes: > I have a tecra 720 and have been VERY happy with it. I have also used > the twinhead. It has a nice feel to it, but it's battery life is very > short compared to the tecra. > I also have a Tecra, which I love. It's actually my only machine, and it's good enough to not frustrate me. The only problem I have with it is I can't get it to recognize both an external keyboard and mouse at the same time, using the PS/2 port and a PS/2 Y-cable. > There is no suspend mode in Nextstep but there is under windows95. > Oddly, suspend mode under NEXTSTEP works on the NEC Versa. Go figure. - Mark -- Mark Dadgar - Systems Engineer - Auspex Systems - http://www.auspex.com mark_dadgar@auspex.com - (408) 986-2429 (office) - (408) 980-0121 (fax) "I had nothing on but the radio" - Marilyn Monroe, on modeling NeXTMail and MIME happily accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9610270059.AA00834@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 96 01:59:40 +0100 Subject: Re: Maximun Memory on Intel Hardware - Upgrade Ur 2nd lev. cache !!! Cc: bomb@localhost.erols.com > From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) > Subject: Re: Maximun Memory on Intel Hardware > Date: 25 Oct 1996 17:38:56 GMT > Reply-To: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> > > In article <54qgh1$f11@boursy.news.erols.com> bomb@localhost.erols.com (Scott > Turner) writes: > > I tried to use >96 mb of memory in an intel pentium pro by compaq and my > > machine gets slower .I am using NextStep 3.3 . Is there support for this > > amount of memory in OS 4.x? > > Oftentimes, this slowness is not the fault of the system software, but in > limitations of the motherboard. Many motherboards will cache only the first > 64MB of RAM. OS 4.x (or any OS, for that matter) cannot overcome this, other > than limiting usable ram to 64MB. > > -- > Rex Dieter > Computer System Manager > Department of Mathematics and Statistics > University of Nebraska Lincoln > Or the 2nd level-cache on board has to be extended to be able to cache more than the 64MB (My ol'VIP board can be upgraded to 2 MB 2L-cache, so the computer can cache the entire 128MB (also with the Next- or OpenStepper) Easy come and easy go..... with the flow..... Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 --- REAL Computing is black! stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail, MIME and ASCII) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9610271623.AA01072@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 96 17:22:59 +0100 Subject: Re: Turbo cube not booting..., you will need NS 2.2 or higher Cc: sneal@ichips.intel.com > I'm trying to install a Turbo Cube board into my > cube to replace my '030 board, but it's not working... > > Upon power-up, all of the internal tests pass, and it > attempts to boot from the hard disk. After only a few seconds, > however, it dumps me into the monitor with the following message: > > Exception #5 (0x14) at pc 0x100efa0 sp 0x67ff0be > > The sticker on the box says that it will work with NeXTStep 2.1 > or better (I'm trying 2.1), but I wonder if I really do need > a more current OS for it to function, or if the board is fried > somehow... > > Please help, I just got the board! > > Scott > Hi Scott, the reason for not booting is that a Turbo board need at least the interim version of NeXTStep 2.x, that is NeXTStep 2.2. The released 2.2 with the Turbos, when 3.0 wasnt ready yet! Hope that helps...... Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 --- REAL Computing is black! stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail, MIME and ASCII) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: terry@modesty.com Subject: iK'?d:]-/x}HOT TECHNOLOGIES AND FREE STUFFWW<Jvi.Y%LJ Message-ID: <a1b7cc$df1e.292@nntphost.bbsi.net> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 18:15:30 GMT The Men's Club - http://www.mens-club.com/ - Hot Technologies - FREE Stuff - Exclusive Products - Health Resources - Image and Graphics Libraries Men and Women 18+ Are Welcome!
From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ?? ISDN and NeXT Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:48:58 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1996Oct27.204858.28786@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <32714424.41C6@eai.com> In article <32714424.41C6@eai.com> Nate Hurst <nhurst@eai.com> writes: > Has anyone used ISDN and NeXT black hardware? Which modems? etc. > > I would be interested in any comments you have. OK, we have and use at various times: ZyXEL Elite 2864I with PPP and SLIP on the black NeXT; also ZyXEL Omni TA; and a ZyXEL Prestige. This latter is a neat router that does NAT (or a close equivalent; not sure) to allow you to use your home network on a single IP address ISP account at full ISDN speed. This may be counter to the terms and conditions for some ISPs. I also know people who use Ascends with NeXT hardware. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: NeXTdimension bootstrap Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:30:13 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <550kde$5qb@news.wco.com> References: <54rdbt$2cc@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> : Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >I have a cube with 4 boards in it (1x040, 3x030), and it is working just >fine... and I am thinking about building a system with the following >configuration (nice to have spares flying around ;-): >1x040-25 board >2x030-25 boards >1xNeXTdimension board >Will this work? How does the NeXTdimension find its host?.. At some point >the CPU board attempts to bootstrap the ND, but what exactly determines which >of the boards will bootstrap it and where is this information kept? For multiple CPU boards to work in a Cube, at most one of the boards will be connected to backplane signals other than power and ground. I'd bet that your 040 board has an NBIC chip installed next to the NeXTbus connector, and the 030 cards have an empty socket there. The NeXTdimension board should boot from the 040 board in Slot 0. The ND board can be in slots strapped to be NeXTbus slot 2, 4, or 6. The 68040 board boot ROM knows how to initialize and examine the NeXTbus for peripheral cards such as the NeXTdimension. The 68030 board boot ROM doesn't do this. Details on how to bootstrap a peripheral board like the NeXTdimension are kept in a ROM on the peripheral card mapped into the slot address range for the slot holding the card. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
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From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP97549, 1.0GB SCSI Harddisk for Cube ? Date: 27 Oct 1996 23:39:03 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Distribution: world Message-ID: <550rqn$nl6@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Cc: Has anybody use HP97549, 1.0GB SCSI harddisk (5.25 FH form factor) in a Cube ? I'm thinking of replacing the original Maxtor drive. thanks Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org n5snn@mail.utexas.edu paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: [Q] Exchange Mac modem cable to NeXT Message-ID: <DzyMyE.GH@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <326EEBD3.4A31@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 00:35:02 GMT In article <326EEBD3.4A31@soback.kornet.nm.kr>, YoungHoon Kil <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> wrote: >jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) wrote: > >>I bought a Mac modem cable with hardware flow control. I took the >>cable apart to check out the wiring and it was definitely incorrect >>for the NeXT. I did some resoldering and it works fine, now. This >>was probably the easiest way for me to make a NeXT modem cable without >>having to buy the parts individually. > >Ok, If it so easy, I will try too. >Please show me the way. How can I make the NeXT modem cable? >The following is Mac modem cable to NeXT modem cabling. Is that correct? >And What is the "hardware flow control"? How can I check the "hardware >flow control" of my Mac modem cable? > It's better try to find a vendor for a made-for-next modem cable. I bought one from ZyXel. I think it was about $12(?).
From: mrbill@texas.net (Bill Bradford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ?? ISDN and NeXT Date: 28 Oct 1996 01:44:49 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <55136h$4s9@news2.texas.net> References: <32714424.41C6@eai.com> <1996Oct27.204858.28786@seer.demon.co.uk> Paul Lynch (Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk) wrote: : I also know people who use Ascends with NeXT hardware. P25 here. Works great. -- __________________________________________________________________ | bill bradford | system administrator, unix geek, and BOFH | | mrbill@texas.net | texas networking, inc. http://www.texas.net | | mrbill@mrbill.net | 210-272-8111 * 512-472-2532 | |------------------------------------------------------------------| | "I was known as the chief grave robber of my state." -Dan Qyayle | ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI HDs for NeXT Hardware (Re: HP97549, 1.0GB SCSI Harddisk for Cube ?) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 18:31:34 -0800 Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.961027182057.541A-100000@kira> References: <550rqn$nl6@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Paulus Adisoemarta <paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu> In-Reply-To: <550rqn$nl6@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com I would like to compile a list of HDs which do and do not work with NeXT hardware. I have a preliminary list from an old post here, but if you have any additional information, PLEASE let me know. I will possibly be getting a new HD sometime soon and need this info myself, in addition to making this list. You can always find this list at: http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/scsi-for-black or get it via email by sending a message to me with the SUBJECT send-ascii scsi-for-black or send-mime scsi-for-black ########### BEGIN DOCUMENT: scsi-for-black ########### Date: 24 FEB 1996 00:53:01 GMT Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Summary: SCSI harddisks for black NeXT Howdy, here is the last updated list of disks for black NeXT hardware. It is a compilation of all the friendly messages from you, guys. Somebody asked, where to buy a disk. I had a good experience with http://www.neutron.com (Quantum Fireball FB1080S - 1GB for $250) http://www.necx.com (Seagate Hawk2LP ST32430N - 2GB for $700). If you have any particularly good or bad experience with disk for black NeXT, let me know. I'll add you info to the list. Thanks, good luck. Rudy. Summary of responses from news://comp.sys.next.hardware ======================================================= (SCSI devices for black NeXT hardware - mostly harddisks) Harddisks NOT compatible with black NeXT hardware ------------------------------------------------ FUJITSU 2684SAU (I have had two and on both the drives displayed media errors immediately after re-sectoring to 1024-byte sectors and performing a BuildDisk) SEAGATE ST51080N (I tried two of them, none could be initialized properly (/etc/disk) in a NeXT cube. The message was that the boot sector couldn't be found. Low level reformatting didn't help (sdformat - see below). Sector size change to 1024 bytes failed (sdformat). Not even a disktab entry helped.) IBM IB06H8891 (Fast SCSI-2, 512 Cache, 10ms, 1GB) (I had a lot of problems with this drive on black hardware. I.e. don't buy it! According to IBM tech support, all new IBM drives only support synchronous bus transfers.) Compatible Harddisks -------------------- (not sure if what works with a cube works also in a slab and vice versa) Cube (040): ----------- FUJITSU M1606SAU Fujitsu part # : CA01310-B161 FUJITSU M1606S-1024 Rev 6234 FUJITSU M2684S-1024 Rev 2039 QUANTUM FIREBALL 1080S NeXT station (040) ------------------ SEAGATE ST32430N-1024 (2.1GB, Hawk 2LP) (NS 3.2 needs a disktab entry - available from blazek@stt.msu.edu) QUANTUM FIREBALL 1080S Unspecified black NeXT hardware ------------------------------- (not sure if cube or station) FUJITSU M1603S-1024 FUJITSU M2624F-1024 FUJITSU M2694ES-1024 FUJITSU M2909S-1024 FUJITSU M2263S-1024 CD-ROM and removable disks compatible with black NeXT HW -------------------------------------------------------- SONY CD-ROM CDU-76S Rev 1.1c IOMEGA ZIP 100 Rev C.19 SYQUEST EZ135 Advice for harddisk installation -------------------------------- Is there a hardware jumper setting on the Seagate to disable synchronous transfers? The old Fujitsu drives required this setting before they would boot properly on the Cubes and Stations. ########### END OF DOCUMENT: scsi-for-black ###########
From: milicic@pharos.math.utah.edu (Dragan Milicic) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: scsi errors Date: 28 Oct 1996 02:41:48 GMT Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Message-ID: <5516hc$qav@news.cc.utah.edu> I am running a NeXTstation mono with NeXTstep 3.3. My system is on an external Andataco drive (CONNER CFP4207S 4.28GB Rev as sd0). Recently, I started getting message like Oct 27 02:45:23 cartan mach: sd0 (0,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0Oct 27 02:45:23 cartan mach: sd0 (0,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24 Oct 27 02:45:23 cartan mach: SCSI Block in error = 0 (front porch) Oct 27 02:54:15 cartan mach: sd0: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1fff, resid = 0x1, retry 1 Oct 27 04:15:16 cartan mach: sd0: Incomplete disk transfer; bytes moved = 0x1fff, resid = 0x1, retry 1 in my console window (and in /usr/adm/messages). I would appreciate any information about the meaning of these messages and possible causes (I already tried to replace the cable). Dragan Milicic
From: bbum@friday.com (Bill Bumgarner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 100/10 Ethernet cards for PCI. Date: 28 Oct 1996 04:14:50 GMT Organization: Friday Software & Consulting Message-ID: <551bvq$jhs@chinx10.thoughtport.net> References: <veehgnojx11.fsf@shell.one.net> <54qpnn$652@BLaCKSMITH.com> Cc: leo@BLaCKSMITH.com Under heavy, heavy network load (ie; a news server with a full feed with a T1 to the upline provider or when installing software across a network), the Cogent EM960-- a bus mastering 21040 based card-- has a tendency to lock up the machine. As well, during periods of load [when the machine doesn't lock up] the machine tends to 'pause' for up to ten seconds. By 'pause', I mean that it literally stops doing *anything* for some period. Other than that, they are great cards. :-) If you do have one, then Edit... /usr/Devices/System.config/Instance0.table .. and move the reference to the network drivers from the Active Drivers to the VERY beginning of Boot Drivers. This will fix the problem some what; pauses and lock ups happen less frequently, but they do still happen. BTW: The above fix is not pure voodoo-- it was suggested to me by Cogent Tech Support [which, btw, was EXCELLENT!] If the new cards don't have this problem, I would recommend 'em highly. Cogent is a company to be supported. I picked up an Intel EtherExpress Pro/100. It works well under Linux and NEXTSTEP. The Pro/10+ is to be avoided; it is not that much less expensive than the 100 and no driver exists for Linux [or other operating systems]. b.bum In <54qpnn$652@BLaCKSMITH.com> Leo Turetsky wrote: # Scott Hess writes # > Anyone have recommendations as to the most reasonable 100/10 Ethernet # > card for NeXTSTEP that plugs into PCI? Apparently the 3Com cards are # > out of the picture, as there are no drivers for the PCI version. How # > about "DEC 21140" ($95) and "SMC 9332" ($119)? (Prices from # > www.atipa.com.) # # The Cogent EM110's work really well for us and they use the 21140 chipset # from DEC. # # leo. # # +---------------------+---------------------------------+ # | Leo Turetsky | BLaCKSMITH, Inc. (NeXTmail OK) | # | leo@blacksmith.com | OPENSTEP Systems Administrator | # +---------------------+---------------------------------+ # | Nah-ne kah-sah tahng-tah? <esp> Leo, your mom called. | # +-------------------------------------------------------+ #
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: agnus@amylnd.s.bawue.de (Matthias Zepf) Subject: Re: JAZ drive under NeXTstep / OpenStep Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-ID: <1996Oct26.074541.28485@amylnd.s.bawue.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Agnus' Home, Leonberg/Warmbronn, Germany References: <5409qt$9ff@ns.dart.de> <54a5u0$hnj@hkusuc.hku.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 07:45:41 GMT Kelvin Kwan (kkwan@cs.hku.hk) wrote: > However, I don't think you *should* buy it. For a little more, > get the SyQuest SyJet. It's bigger (1.3G vs. 1.0G) and a little > faster. I think you should buy it (the Jaz drive) because it is fast enough, it works, and it is available. I am very happy with my Jaz drive. I would never buy any stuff from SyQuest after seeing all my friends SyQuest drives dying. > [SyJet] You don't need a disktab entry. It just works (TM). Is this your assumption or did you test it? Matthias -- ** Matthias Zepf, Riegeläckerstraße 27, 71229 Leonberg, Germany ** ** +49 7152 97772 E-Mail (NeXTmail/MIME): agnus@amylnd.s.bawue.de **
From: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: low level hd format software? Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 08:06:05 Organization: Lockheed Martin Federal Systems in Manassas, VA, USA Message-ID: <551m1i$m66@news.manassas.ibm.com> References: <54qo13$26j@news4.digex.net> <54re2q$50r@news4.digex.net> OK, write me a mail if You have success! I asked this in detail some month ago without any helpfull answer. I see that there are problems to handle EIDE drives with their faking head/sektors etc. Nevertheless if a chance would exists to format a drive it should be possible, but it is not. I looked for a procedure too. So, good luck! Henry
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul C. Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] Exchange Mac modem cable to NeXT Date: 28 Oct 1996 02:38:54 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <5516bu$k6d@news.istar.ca> References: <326EEBD3.4A31@soback.kornet.nm.kr> In-Reply-To: <326EEBD3.4A31@soback.kornet.nm.kr> On 10/23/96, YoungHoon Kil wrote: >Ok, If it so easy, I will try too. >Please show me the way. How can I make the NeXT modem cable? >The following is Mac modem cable to NeXT modem cabling. Is that >correct? And What is the "hardware flow control"? How can I check >the "hardware flow control" of my Mac modem cable? Well, it's not necessarily easy. The Mac cable I bought was convenient because I could easily take apart the DB25 connector and check the wiring, and the cable they used already had wires connecting to each of the 8 pins of the mini-DIN plug. The connections you listed are correct. You'll need to lookup what number is assigned to each pin of the mini-DIN and the DB-25 to be able to make the correct connections. (I fortunately already had a previously-purchased NeXT modem cable, which was very handy as a reference.) Then you just unsolder and resolder the cable back together correctly. (Why does soldering seem to require four hands?) It is most definitely easier to find a business that can sell you a cable, but I was in a hurry and wanted to do things cheaply. -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -=- jsamson@istar.ca -=- NeXTmail & MIME welcome -===================================================================-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Q: NeXTdimension bootstrap Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DzyCtp.Hoo@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:56:12 GMT References: <54rdbt$2cc@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <54rdbt$2cc@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com>, : Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > >Hi guys: > >Anyone know the answer to this one? > >I have a cube with 4 boards in it (1x040, 3x030), and it is working just >fine... and I am thinking about building a system with the following >configuration (nice to have spares flying around ;-): > >1x040-25 board >2x030-25 boards >1xNeXTdimension board > >Will this work? How does the NeXTdimension find its host?.. At some point >the CPU board attempts to bootstrap the ND, but what exactly determines which >of the boards will bootstrap it and where is this information kept? > This should work fine. The trick is that only one CPU board may have an NBIC installed (and the NeXTdimension board must as well, of course). If there is no NBIC then there is no communication with the NeXTbus, so the other two CPU boards will be effectively invisible. I'm not sure what fireworks you'd get if you had multiple boards with slot ID 0, each with an NBIC... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Copying my boot drive to a new hard disk Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DzyCvK.GH8@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:57:20 GMT References: <54s6p8$cvl@news.digifix.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <54s6p8$cvl@news.digifix.com>, Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> wrote: > By the looks of the man pages, I should be able to use ditto for >most of the copying... > I've used gnutar for this with reasonable success. dump/restore too. > How do I write out the boot blocks? > disk should be able to do this. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Dimension problem - need help Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <DzyCyt.IKB@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:59:16 GMT References: <54t5v0$q7p@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <54t5v0$q7p@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>, Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.net> wrote: >Howdy! > >I recently got myself a used NeXT Dimension board (Tells me in >/usr/adm/messages: PAL, 20 MByte DRAM on boot). Unfortunately it came with >absolutely zero documentation. I put it into the second slot from the left >side (when looked from behind) of my NeXT Cube and it works quite ok, well, >almost... > Sounds good. >Today I tried to connect my video recorder to it. It is an old model with >video output only. (No S-VHS), So I connected the video output to the port A >(of the dimension card). The effect was zero. Using NeXTtv and VideoApp I was >not able to see any difference to the unconnected port. >I switched all input ports but I saw nothing (execpt a bit static when gamma >is set too high). I have an effect when I switch to the S-VHS port and toggle >the video recorder connection I can see very faint ghost images. > I've had it work fine on my NTSC Dimension board. Have you tried the other input channel? -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Bernhard Scholz <scholz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: low level hd format software? Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:50:19 +0100 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.95.961028124535.17411A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <54qo13$26j@news4.digex.net> <54re2q$50r@news4.digex.net> <551m1i$m66@news.manassas.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <551m1i$m66@news.manassas.ibm.com> On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 Koplien@vnet.IBM.com wrote: > OK, write me a mail if You have success! I asked this in detail some month ago without > any helpfull answer. I see that there are problems to handle EIDE drives with their > faking head/sektors etc. Nevertheless if a chance would exists to format a drive it > should be possible, but it is not. I looked for a procedure too. So, good luck! > I think the answer was given, too: What would you expect a low level of an EIDE drive would do??? A low level format of an SCSI devices can do several things: - map out bad sectors - change physical sector sizes (some drives) (E)IDE drives can't do that! So there is no low level format for (E)IDE drives. Tell me: WHAT SHOULD A LOW LEVEL FORMAT FOR (E)IDE DRIVES DO???? Greetings, Bernhard. P.S.: Personally I believe these questions arise due to the lack of DOS' 'format' command to remove the boot block. To do this try 'fdisk /mbr'. (One of those undocuemented M$ features, which everybody knows and has to use).
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: low level hd format software? Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 07:02:53 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <MmR_3hO00Uzx01IkFU@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <54qo13$26j@news4.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <54qo13$26j@news4.digex.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.sysadmin: 25-Oct-96 low level hd format software? by John Kheit@cnj.digex.net > Is there some hdform software for NS? If not, does anyone know of any dos > software that will do a low level hd format? I cannot seem to get rid of > one of next's boot* programs no matter what I do... fdisk /mbr doesn't do > it... In general, you cannot reliably low-level format (E)IDE drives. Some drives ignore the low-level format command, some drives low-level format correctly, and other drives become unusable (!) after being low-level formatted. I own a Western Digital Caviar 21000 which I successfully low-level formatted using OnTrack's Disk Manager ("dm") software. The drive developed a few bad sectors early on in the disk which were screwing up the system software, and I decided that if the format didn't work I was going to return the drive under warranty anyway, so why not try? In any event, the format worked and I haven't seen any problems since. Of course, I do have a tape backup device on the machine and adequate backups, which is of great reassurance. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: neuss@next1.isa.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Museum lookinig for working NeXT Date: 28 Oct 1996 12:36:45 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5529ct$e89@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <54o5hg$p8q@news.hcl.com> sysadmin (colin@hcl.com) wrote: > please donate your NeXT computer in working condition to the reBOOT Canada > Computer Museum. Email info@reboot.on.ca you can pry it from my cold fingers. :-P :-) Chris -- // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: gvandyk@icon.co.za Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Are big drives a problem for NEXTSTEP? Date: 28 Oct 1996 05:16:39 GMT Organization: E.S. Systems cc (Financial Systems Development) Message-ID: <551fjn$c0d@hermes.is.co.za> References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.961021191530.7967B-100000@lipschitz> <Pine.SUN.3.95.961021181321.5135E-100000@kira> <326C6DF0.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> In-Reply-To: <326C6DF0.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> On 10/22/96, Stefan Ried wrote: >Timothy Luoma wrote: >> >> Over 2 gigs is not possible for NeXTStep without partitioning >> >> I believe that OpenStep has done away with this, but don't know for sure. >> >> TjL >> > >Still the same in OpenStep 4.0 >The limit is 2 GB. > >May be you have to reduce a new 2GB drive by one or two MB to fit in the >limit for sure. I shaw the OS4.0 installation splitting a 2GB drive in >two 1GB automatically. Go to fdisk while installing the OS and make a >2GB partition. > > > I don't know what the new limit is in OpenStep 4.0 but there is most definately a difference. I installed a new Box with a 2.57GB IDE Disk about 2 weeks ago with 3.3. I could only install on the first 2GB's. I upgraded the machine on Friday to 4.0 and 4.0 had no problems using all of the 2.57GB's. -- Regards, Gerrit van Dyk email: gvandyk@icon.co.za (NeXTMail welcome) E.S. Systems cc The OBJECT is the ADVANTAGE
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Singular Solutions AD64X Wanted! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: 28 Oct 1996 12:24:31 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5528lv$p4f@belzebul.imaginet.fr> I'm lookin' to buy a Singular Solutions AD64X box to do hard disk recording and put my DAT's on disks. (Bye the way do anybody knows which recording software is the best?) -- mc ’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’ Michel Coste <mailto:mic@micmac.com> ’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’’
From: frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dimension problem - need help Date: 28 Oct 1996 13:44:01 GMT Organization: NO ORGANIZATION, INC. Message-ID: <552db1$4aq@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <54t5v0$q7p@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <DzyCyt.IKB@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Cc: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca In <DzyCyt.IKB@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote: > >Today I tried to connect my video recorder to it. It is an old model with > >video output only. (No S-VHS), So I connected the video output to the port A > >(of the dimension card). The effect was zero. Using NeXTtv and VideoApp I was > >not able to see any difference to the unconnected port. > >I switched all input ports but I saw nothing (execpt a bit static when gamma > >is set too high). I have an effect when I switch to the S-VHS port and toggle > >the video recorder connection I can see very faint ghost images. > > > > I've had it work fine on my NTSC Dimension board. Have you tried the other > input channel? > Yes, I tried all and every input chanel. Even S-VHS. Both port A and B are plain dead. (Port A only shows gray static, Port B shows always black (not even static). The S-VHS port shows some faint colorful image parts that appear and disappear every few seconds. I tried with a lot of cabes and input devices from three different video recorders to a Panasonic 3DO video game. The effect is the same. Since the board tells me 'PAL Video configured' on startup, and all my devices produce PAL video it should work? (Update: I tried with a NTSC recorder too, same effect...) I looked on the Dimension board for suspicious electronic parts. It looks like all input goes over a bunch of ST3981 (number may be incorrect, I write this for my memory as the board is now in the Cube) chips that are surface mounted (I suspect them to be Y/C converters or similar) . I hope that these chips are dead and I can - with the help of a friend who has a professional SMD desoldering station - replace them. However I'd like to have as much information as possible on the video electronic of a Dimension card (preferable the PAL version). Anyone at NeXT (or at any other company, now that the hardware was discontinued long ago) who remembers a few details? Have a nice day Frank -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: low level hd format software? Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:42:34 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <QmR=V_u00UzxQ1IxlP@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <54qo13$26j@news4.digex.net> <54re2q$50r@news4.digex.net> <551m1i$m66@news.manassas.ibm.com> <Pine.HPP.3.95.961028124535.17411A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.95.961028124535.17411A-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Oct-96 Re: low level hd format sof.. by Bernhard Scholz@informat > What would you expect a low level of an EIDE drive would do??? > > A low level format of an SCSI devices can do several things: > - map out bad sectors > - change physical sector sizes (some drives) > > (E)IDE drives can't do that! So there is no low level format for (E)IDE > drives. Reality check: you can low-level format some (E)IDE drives sucessfully. As I've discovered from personal experience, doing so did cause the drive to map out the bad sectors that had appeared. It also allows one to adjust the sector interleave and skew times, which might even be useful for optimizing performance. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: gvandyk@icon.co.za Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: low level hd format software? Date: 28 Oct 1996 05:23:01 GMT Organization: E.S. Systems cc (Financial Systems Development) Message-ID: <551fvl$c19@hermes.is.co.za> References: <54qo13$26j@news4.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <54qo13$26j@news4.digex.net> On 10/25/96, John Kheit wrote: >Hi all, > >Is there some hdform software for NS? If not, does anyone know of any dos >software that will do a low level hd format? I cannot seem to get rid of >one of next's boot* programs no matter what I do... fdisk /mbr doesn't do >it... > >Any pointers will be appreciated. Thanks :) Are you sure you are using fdisk under DOS? The NeXT/Unix version of fdisk can't do this. -- Regards, Gerrit van Dyk email: gvandyk@icon.co.za (NeXTMail welcome) E.S. Systems cc The OBJECT is the ADVANTAGE
From: yufeng@rnb-bankinv.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 100/10 Ethernet cards for PCI. Date: 28 Oct 1996 14:19:31 GMT Organization: Republic National Bank Message-ID: <552fdj$e6@ultron.rnb.com> References: <veehgnojx11.fsf@shell.one.net> <54qpnn$652@BLaCKSMITH.com> <551bvq$jhs@chinx10.thoughtport.net> A month ago while I was working for another company, I had some problems with the Cogent EM110 on P6 machines. The card was recognized and assigned the correct mac address but it refused to talk to the network. I was not sure if it was because of the newer reversion of the cards or not. The machines were the new MicronP6-200 w/ 128M and Adaptec 2940UW and DiamondStealth VRAM running 3.3 and I tried all the latest drivers then. We used EM110 on more than 100 MicronP5-166 and MicronP5-133s and never had a problem. It has been a month, maybe the problems have been resolved already. --yufeng
From: dwy@mcny.com (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 100/10 Ethernet cards for PCI. Date: 28 Oct 1996 14:49:13 GMT Organization: Media Connection of New York, Inc. Message-ID: <552h59$9kb@alice.walrus.com> References: <veehgnojx11.fsf@shell.one.net> <54qpnn$652@BLaCKSMITH.com> <551bvq$jhs@chinx10.thoughtport.net> Bill Bumgarner (bbum@friday.com) wrote: : I picked up an Intel EtherExpress Pro/100. It works well under Linux and : NEXTSTEP. The Pro/10+ is to be avoided; it is not that much less expensive : than the 100 and no driver exists for Linux [or other operating systems]. This is news to me since I have a Pro/10+ running happily with NS 3.3 and Solaris x86. Whatever. Ethernet cards are a total commodity item these days. -- # david young: network engineer+oop developer # net: dwy@mcny.com, dwy@ace.net (NeXTmail ok) web: http://www.ace.net/ # vox: 212.686.3845 201.798.5217 fax: 212.686.3856
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Message-ID: <199610281454.JAA01189@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 09:54:27 -0500 Subject: sdformat Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Return-Receipt-To: luomat@nerc.com I'm going to try to reformat my HD to 1024 sectors before installing NS 3.3. Last time I tried this I had very much no luck, but I was also very new at doing this. Here's my plan: - put 'sdformat' on a NeXT floppy disk - boot into single user off the CD-ROM - mount the floppy run: sdformat -i0 -b1024 -vf (yes I realize this will wipe my entire disk clean) My HD is /dev/sd0 problems/suggestions? TjL
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Summary: Copying my boot drive to a new hard disk Date: 28 Oct 1996 19:28:39 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5531h7$d9h@news.digifix.com> References: <54s6p8$cvl@news.digifix.com> <DzyCvK.GH8@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <DzyCvK.GH8@novice.uwaterloo.ca> On 10/27/96, David Evans wrote: >In article <54s6p8$cvl@news.digifix.com>, >Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> wrote: >> By the looks of the man pages, I should be able to use ditto for >>most of the copying... >> > > I've used gnutar for this with reasonable success. dump/restore too. > >> How do I write out the boot blocks? >> > > disk should be able to do this. > >-- Thanks to everyone who replied, I now have a working copy of my boot drive! I ended up doing this: - boot single user from a CD - mount a drive on /tmp - mount the src drive - disk -i -b the destination drive - mount the dest drive - ditto /src /dest this worked great, and would have been perfect if when I rebooted after replacing the screamer drive in my Turbo, my last LOUSY QUANTUM EMPIRE drive with my news spool/anon FTP/httpd stuff on it would have come back up. :-( Its ironic since the first order of duty was to copy that stuff on to the new drive and decommission it. Lousy quantum crap. Never again. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: JAZ drive under NeXTstep / OpenStep Date: 28 Oct 1996 19:16:50 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5530r2$bvp@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <5409qt$9ff@ns.dart.de> <54a5u0$hnj@hkusuc.hku.hk> <1996Oct26.074541.28485@amylnd.s.bawue.de> agnus@amylnd.s.bawue.de (Matthias Zepf) wrote: >> [SyJet] You don't need a disktab entry. It just works (TM). > >Is this your assumption or did you test it? Fact. Just works. Just don't give the disks to a moving company. *grrrr* Next time they are going into my carry-on packages... Otherwise mighty sporty replacement for OD's ;-) -- or the way it should've been done in the first place. Regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com>, office: ckuhtz@paranet.com Network/UNIX Specialist for Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ Supercomputing Junkie, et al MIME/NeXTmail accepted
From: Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: NeXTdimension bootstrap Date: 28 Oct 1996 19:18:41 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5530uh$bvp@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <54rdbt$2cc@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <DzyCtp.Hoo@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > I'm not sure what fireworks you'd get if you had multiple boards with > slot ID 0, each with an NBIC... Actually, there are no fireworks at all. Just works. ;-) Otherwise you wouldn't be able to read this ;-).. Regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com>, office: ckuhtz@paranet.com Network/UNIX Specialist for Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ Supercomputing Junkie, et al MIME/NeXTmail accepted
From: bbum@friday.com (Bill Bumgarner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 100/10 Ethernet cards for PCI. Date: 28 Oct 1996 16:56:00 GMT Organization: Friday Software & Consulting Message-ID: <552oj0$jhs@chinx10.thoughtport.net> References: <veehgnojx11.fsf@shell.one.net> <54qpnn$652@BLaCKSMITH.com> <551bvq$jhs@chinx10.thoughtport.net> <552h59$9kb@alice.walrus.com> Yes, it worked fine for NEXTSTEP for me... hadn't tried it with Solaris x86. For me, the real issue was cost; the Pro/10+ was $112 and the Pro/100 was $136 -- for $24, one receives a 100 mb/s compliant card wheras the Pro/10+ will maybe do 20 mb/s, but only with other Pro/10+'s! b.bum In <552h59$9kb@alice.walrus.com> David Young wrote: # Bill Bumgarner (bbum@friday.com) wrote: # : I picked up an Intel EtherExpress Pro/100. It works well under Linux and # : NEXTSTEP. The Pro/10+ is to be avoided; it is not that much less expensive # : than the 100 and no driver exists for Linux [or other operating systems]. # # This is news to me since I have a Pro/10+ running happily with # NS 3.3 and Solaris x86. # # Whatever. Ethernet cards are a total commodity item these days. # # -- # # david young: network engineer+oop developer # # net: dwy@mcny.com, dwy@ace.net (NeXTmail ok) web: http://www.ace.net/ # # vox: 212.686.3845 201.798.5217 fax: 212.686.3856 #
From: sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NCR, NeXTSTEP, and Fast SCSI-II. Date: 28 Oct 1996 18:33:01 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <552u8t$uuk@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <vee4tjlnxng.fsf@shell.one.net> Scott Hess (shess@shell.one.net) wrote: : I'm in the "can it go faster" stage of integrating my system, and have : generated some iozone results which I find somewhat confusing. To : keep things simple, I'll present results for two drives, reformatted : for ease of reading: : File time/rate time/rate : Disk Type Size Write Read : ST32155N 96 47.546531 23.678264 : 2117153 4251295 : ST31230N 96 40.117056 31.307740 : 2509239 3215284 [Major munch] Ok my two bits worth: 1. Most disks have a track settling time too. This one isn't talked about much. Your reading Cylinder 1, track 6, and get to the end of the track, so you start reading from track 7. The head there may not quite be settled on the center of the track, so 1-2 ms pass while it gets comfortable. 2. That you get similar results with three drives as you do with two makes me think that it's either driver or card related. Try cross posting this to the linux groups, and see if anyone there has similar results. -- Sherwood Botsford |Unsolicited email that advertises commercial Physics Dept |activities will consitute a request for U of Alberta |spellchecking of all words of less than three Edmonton, AB, |characters. I charge $US500 for this service. T6G 2J1 |There is no warranty of correctness of this service.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gwong@eecg.toronto.edu (Gilbert Wong) Subject: Q: Hard Drive & RAM for NeXT Message-ID: <1996Oct28.150131.28626@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> Organization: Department of Computer Engineering, University of Toronto Date: 28 Oct 96 20:01:31 GMT Hello everyone, Do NeXTstation require special configured Hard Drive and RAM, or do any SCSI hard drive or 72 pin RAM available on the street will do? Also, how big a hard drive would someone recommend for personal use. Thanks Gilbert Email: gwong@eecg.utoronto.ca .
From: Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: NeXTdimension bootstrap Date: 28 Oct 1996 19:26:15 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5531cn$bvp@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <54rdbt$2cc@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <550kde$5qb@news.wco.com> mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) wrote: >For multiple CPU boards to work in a Cube, at most one of the boards >will be connected to backplane signals other than power and ground. >I'd bet that your 040 board has an NBIC chip installed next to the >NeXTbus connector, and the 030 cards have an empty socket there. You mean that quite little PGA socket? The last thing I heard about that socket was that it was a proprietary port for a logic analyzer ;-).. Cool, that makes sense. All my '030 boards have nothing in that PGA socket. >The NeXTdimension board should boot from the 040 board in Slot 0. The >ND board can be in slots strapped to be NeXTbus slot 2, 4, or 6. The >68040 board boot ROM knows how to initialize and examine the NeXTbus >for peripheral cards such as the NeXTdimension. The 68030 board boot >ROM doesn't do this. Aha, great! That makes a lot of sense. Right now all the slots are coded 0 for the CPU's to work. So, how does the '030 board work with NeXTdimensions then? I mean, how does it find it? Do you have to explicitly tell the ROM about it? >Details on how to bootstrap a peripheral board like the NeXTdimension >are kept in a ROM on the peripheral card mapped into the slot address >range for the slot holding the card. Is there documentation still available for exactly details in NeXTdimension programming? Regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com>, office: ckuhtz@paranet.com Network/UNIX Specialist for Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ Supercomputing Junkie, et al MIME/NeXTmail accepted
From: leo@BLaCKSMITH.com (Leo Turetsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 100/10 Ethernet cards for PCI. Date: 28 Oct 1996 19:43:38 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <5532da$b0b@BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <552fdj$e6@ultron.rnb.com> yufeng@rnb-bankinv.com writes > > > A month ago while I was working for another company, > I had some problems with the Cogent EM110 on P6 machines. > The card was recognized and assigned the correct mac > address but it refused to talk to the network. I was not Are you sure the card was assigned the correct MAC address? The newest batches of EM110s require you to add the line "Address Offset" = "20" to the Instance0.table in the driver config. (Actually, we added that line to *.table because it didn't work when you just add it to Instance0.table.) If you don't add the line to the driver config, the card will boot correctly and display a MAC address but it will be a bogus address and the card won't work. Hope this helps. leo. +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Leo Turetsky | BLaCKSMITH, Inc. (NeXTmail OK) | | leo@blacksmith.com | OPENSTEP Systems Administrator | +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Nah-ne kah-sah tahng-tah? <esp> Leo, your mom called. | +-------------------------------------------------------+
From: hermes@bermuda.io.com (quest) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: supercrash. help _pleeez._ Date: 28 Oct 1996 17:21:17 -0600 Organization: grapefruit juice Message-ID: <ywlwwwak74i.fsf@bermuda.io.com> in attempting to get ppp up and running on my cube ('040 with an nd board), i somehow managed to crash it seemingly beyond repair (at least beyond _my_ knowledge of how to repair it). the first few times through, after a few errors, it hung on "inetd". if i ^C'ed through that it hung again on "pbs". if i once again ^C'ed it would more or less continue booting (it lost a few lines in the ppp part of the boot process), it would acknowledge the nd board, the cursor would appear, and then it hung. i was able to restart it a few times, and played around with the monitor at various points during boot, but it was to no avail. then, at the beginning of the end, it completely locked up at the final part of the boot, just before the login window should of come up. and i had to physically disconnect power to it. the couple of times that i've tried to boot since then, it shows the "checking system" message and graphic, and then an animated graphic with an earthworm- looking cable attached to an ethernet t pops up, with the message "receiving network data" (or something to that effect). never mind the fact that i'm _not_ on a network, and that's why i was trying to get ppp up and working to begin with. i would be _so_ happy for _any_ help at all.. thanx, dave -- o oo oo oo ooo oo o o hermes@io.com o o oo o o o o starboy@javanet.com o o o http://xochipilli.com/~hermes
From: leo@BLaCKSMITH.com (Leo Turetsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 100/10 Ethernet cards for PCI. Date: 28 Oct 1996 19:40:53 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <553285$avh@BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <551bvq$jhs@chinx10.thoughtport.net> Bill Bumgarner writes > Under heavy, heavy network load (ie; a news server with a full feed with > a T1 to the upline provider or when installing software across a > network), the Cogent EM960-- a bus mastering 21040 based card-- has a > tendency to lock up the machine. As well, during periods of load [when Hmm, haven't seen this happen yet. > the machine doesn't lock up] the machine tends to 'pause' for up to ten > seconds. By 'pause', I mean that it literally stops doing *anything* > for some period. We have a Cogent EM110 with a 21140 chip on our main file server and it has yet to cause us any problems [including lock up, I've checked]. We recently upgraded to the EM110 from an EM960 and it had never given us problems then either. Maybe it's a configuration thing? > Other than that, they are great cards. :-) They seem extremely stable and quick; what else can one ask for? :-) [snip...sorry] > BTW: The above fix is not pure voodoo-- it was suggested to me by > Cogent Tech Support [which, btw, was EXCELLENT!] Its interesting but it seems every Cogent card needs to have the Instance0.table edited. Workstation 2000 informed us that the new batches of EM110s need to have "Address Offset" = "20" added to the config tables. Actually, they say you need to add it to Instance0.table but that doesn't work; we just add the line to *.table... > If the new cards don't have this problem, I would recommend 'em highly. Maybe this problem has been fixed with the 21140 chipset; then again maybe not. > Cogent is a company to be supported. You realize of course that Cogent and Adaptec are one and the same... > I picked up an Intel EtherExpress Pro/100. It works well under Linux > and NEXTSTEP. The Pro/10+ is to be avoided; it is not that much less > expensive than the 100 and no driver exists for Linux [or other > operating systems]. As far as I'm concerned (and this is strictly religious) Intel should be avoided unless absolutely necessary. Leo. :-) +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Leo Turetsky | BLaCKSMITH, Inc. (NeXTmail OK) | | leo@blacksmith.com | OPENSTEP Systems Administrator | +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Nah-ne kah-sah tahng-tah? <esp> Leo, your mom called. | +-------------------------------------------------------+
From: thedrjay@aol.com (The Dr Jay) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: low level hd format software? Date: 29 Oct 1996 00:24:44 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <5544es$3l@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <54qo13$26j@news4.digex.net> A lot of mother boards have a hard drive utility that can do a suface scan. It checks all the sectors on the hard drive erasing every thing completly. I have used it on disks that where fdisk by some utility that the DOS fdisk could not repartition. If you have this option with your mother board this should work as good as a low level format would for erasing the drive. It's kind of strang the fdisk/mbr dosn't work as it always has for me. I wonder if maybe some thing is wrong with your drive? If there is the surface scan should find it.
From: "John, Ge and Thomas" <troxells@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Museum lookinig for working NeXT Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:03:56 -0800 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <3275AC5C.2C8C@worldnet.att.net> References: <54o5hg$p8q@news.hcl.com> <5529ct$e89@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Christian Neuss wrote: > > sysadmin (colin@hcl.com) wrote: > > > please donate your NeXT computer in working condition to the reBOOT Canada > > Computer Museum. Email info@reboot.on.ca > > you can pry it from my cold fingers. :-P :-) > > Chris > -- > // Christian Neuss "I ride tandem with a random.." > // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ > // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 You can't pry mine because it will be part of my bequest to my heirs.
From: rennich@leland.stanford.edu (Steve Rennich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: IDE HD experience/problems Date: 29 Oct 1996 04:44:51 GMT Organization: Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <554243$5sv@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NeXT People - A scsii hard drive (Quantum Lightning) in my (academic) office's P60 running Openstep 4.0 has gone bad. Since this model drive is no loger sold, the extended warantee that we purchased with the drive (from NCA) will only cover the "purchace price of the drive at the time of failure" - $179. The store will not give me the money in cash, only in credit. They don't carry any scsii drives smaller than 1GB now, for ~$240, and they don't have anything scsii in stock for less than ~$300. I can afford ~1GB IDE drive with the credit. So, my question is, if I buy an IDE drive instead, can anybody indicate that I will or will not have problems installing/using it with OS 4.0, on an early (Spring 1994) P60. Anything I should check/lookout for in advance? (I know the $'s here are small, but wrangling $'s out of my advisor and the pain of the university procurement process is best avoided if at all possible) Thanks in advance for any help, Steve rennich@leland.stanford.edu
From: Toshinao Ishii <ici@giocoso.osk.threewebnet.or.jp> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Media Vision PROZonic Date: 19 Oct 1996 13:11:42 +0900 Organization: 3WEB corp. Message-ID: <x6d8yfmw3l.fsf@giocoso.osk.threewebnet.or.jp> Hi. Does someone know whether the PROZonic, new sound card from Media Vision, is compatible with the NeXT(OpenStep for Mach) sound driver "Jazz16" ? -=-=-=-=-=-= Toshinao Ishii email: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp (NeXTMAIL/MIME Welcome)
From: scott@bcog.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 100/10 Ethernet cards for PCI. Date: 29 Oct 1996 01:47:31 GMT Organization: British Columbia Openstep Group Message-ID: <553nnj$d71@news.bctel.net> References: <veehgnojx11.fsf@shell.one.net> <54qpnn$652@BLaCKSMITH.com> leo@BLaCKSMITH.com (Leo Turetsky) wrote: >Scott Hess writes >> Anyone have recommendations as to the most reasonable 100/10 Ethernet >> card for NeXTSTEP that plugs into PCI? Apparently the 3Com cards are >> out of the picture, as there are no drivers for the PCI version. How >> about "DEC 21140" ($95) and "SMC 9332" ($119)? (Prices from >> www.atipa.com.) > >The Cogent EM110's work really well for us and they use the 21140 chipset >from DEC. > >leo. I discovered the hard way about the 3COM cards....returned it and got a couple of Intel EtherExpress Pro/100 cards which have worked perfectly, although I am running them through a 10MPS hub......the 100MPS hubs cost more than my computer!
From: aalto@uvula.nmt.edu (Eugene Aalto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ram for NextStation Color Date: 29 Oct 1996 12:35:05 GMT Organization: New Mexico Insitute of Mining and Technology Message-ID: <554tlp$gla@newshost.nmt.edu> I have a NextStation Color which needs more RAM. What are the largest size I can put in. This is the machine with 8 72 pin simm sockets, which are too close togeter for double sided simms. According to my 2.1 manual, this machines maxes out at 32mb. That would be 8 pieces of 4 meg ea. Can I do any better than that? Also, is there any point in putting anything faster than 100ns in this machine? Please reply by email Eugene Aalto aalto@nmt.edu
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Seagate ST31200N Date: 29 Oct 1996 17:16:48 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison Message-ID: <555e60$28ok@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5554ld$3knm@news.doit.wisc.edu> <555d1a$6j1@scipio.cyberstore.ca> In article <555d1a$6j1@scipio.cyberstore.ca>, <nick@bcog.org> wrote: >In <5554ld$3knm@news.doit.wisc.edu> Jess Anderson wrote: >> I've been given (!) a Seagate ST31200N scsi drive (1.0635 GB >> formatted), a so-called HAWK1LP family drive. I'm wondering >> is anyone has tried this drive and found it to work on black >> hardware (cube, running 3.2). All comments welcome. >That is one of my favorite drives ! Works without any problems Did the system recognize it automatically, or did you need to diddle a disktab entry for it? -- [Jess Anderson % anderson@doit.wisc.edu % Network Engineering Technology Group] [Div of Information Technology O- Univ of Wisconsin % The opinions are my own.] [------> Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly. <------]
From: pb141@columbia.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Museum lookinig for working NeXT Date: 29 Oct 1996 02:48:37 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <553ra5$1k9@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <54o5hg$p8q@news.hcl.com> In-Reply-To: <54o5hg$p8q@news.hcl.com> On 10/24/96, sysadmin wrote: | | please donate your NeXT computer in working condition to the reBOOT Canada | Computer Museum. Email info@reboot.on.ca | Or you could donate it to me and I'll actually use it. -- _________________________________________ Paul Buckley 515 W 59th St., Apt. 22K New York, NY 10019 E-mail: pb141@columbia.edu Tel/Fax: 212-333-3382 _________________________________________ I'm like a dog with a bone; I gnaw on it until I understand the dynamics. Helen Caldicot, NPR interview
From: mtie@mathcs.carleton.edu (Michael Tie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3 Com III ethernet cards Date: 28 Oct 1996 19:24:55 GMT Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA Message-ID: <5531a7$m22@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Does anyone out there have a driver (for either NS 3.3 or Openstep 4.0) that works with the 3 COM III (3C595-TX) PCI ethernet card? The drivers on the CD and at NeXTAnswers are for the ISA and EISA cards... Or is there a way to make the existing drivers recognize my PCI card? Thanks in advance, -mike tie -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael N. Tie mtie@carleton.edu Department of Math/CS phn: (507) 663-4067 Carleton College fax: (507) 663-4312 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: bbum@friday.com (Bill Bumgarner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 100/10 Ethernet cards for PCI. Date: 29 Oct 1996 01:09:45 GMT Organization: Friday Software & Consulting Message-ID: <553lgp$jhs@chinx10.thoughtport.net> References: <551bvq$jhs@chinx10.thoughtport.net> <553285$avh@BLaCKSMITH.com> Cc: leo@BLaCKSMITH.com Cool - it sounds like the Cogent's no longer lock up under heavy loads... that is very good to hear. It was hefty, hefty NFS trafic that would consistently take out mine. The EM960 is based on the 21040-- not the 21140; different chip set, hopefully better. Unless it is a conflict with a 2940 SCSI controller, I can't imagine what else about my configuration would cause the problem-- maybe a PCI implementation issue? I agree with your assessment of the intel and would avoid them for equally religious reasons. There is a technical reason, though; the Intel's implementation of Multicast support is described as 'being from another planet'. It is considered inferior. The 21140's support for Multicast is awesome-- unfortunately, that means little to the NEXTSTEP/OpenStep community; as far as I am aware, the NeXT kernel does not support multicasting and won't anytime soon. b.bum In <553285$avh@BLaCKSMITH.com> Leo Turetsky wrote: # Bill Bumgarner writes # > Under heavy, heavy network load (ie; a news server with a full feed with # > a T1 to the upline provider or when installing software across a # > network), the Cogent EM960-- a bus mastering 21040 based card-- has a # > tendency to lock up the machine. As well, during periods of load [when # # Hmm, haven't seen this happen yet. # # > the machine doesn't lock up] the machine tends to 'pause' for up to ten # > seconds. By 'pause', I mean that it literally stops doing *anything* # > for some period. # # We have a Cogent EM110 with a 21140 chip on our main file server and it # has yet to cause us any problems [including lock up, I've checked]. We # recently upgraded to the EM110 from an EM960 and it had never given us # problems then either. Maybe it's a configuration thing? # # > Other than that, they are great cards. :-) # # They seem extremely stable and quick; what else can one ask for? :-) # # [snip...sorry] # # > BTW: The above fix is not pure voodoo-- it was suggested to me by # > Cogent Tech Support [which, btw, was EXCELLENT!] # # Its interesting but it seems every Cogent card needs to have the # Instance0.table edited. Workstation 2000 informed us that the new batches # of EM110s need to have "Address Offset" = "20" added to the config tables. # Actually, they say you need to add it to Instance0.table but that doesn't # work; we just add the line to *.table... # # > If the new cards don't have this problem, I would recommend 'em highly. # # Maybe this problem has been fixed with the 21140 chipset; then again maybe # not. # # > Cogent is a company to be supported. # # You realize of course that Cogent and Adaptec are one and the same... # # > I picked up an Intel EtherExpress Pro/100. It works well under Linux # > and NEXTSTEP. The Pro/10+ is to be avoided; it is not that much less # > expensive than the 100 and no driver exists for Linux [or other # > operating systems]. # # As far as I'm concerned (and this is strictly religious) Intel should be # avoided unless absolutely necessary. # # Leo. :-) # # +---------------------+---------------------------------+ # | Leo Turetsky | BLaCKSMITH, Inc. (NeXTmail OK) | # | leo@blacksmith.com | OPENSTEP Systems Administrator | # +---------------------+---------------------------------+ # | Nah-ne kah-sah tahng-tah? <esp> Leo, your mom called. | # +-------------------------------------------------------+ #
From: gcasamen@eos.hitc.com (Greg Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: repair of NeXTStation monochrome monitor? Date: 29 Oct 1996 17:56:40 GMT Organization: Hughes Team (EOSDIS) Message-ID: <555ggo$bks@newsroom.hitc.com> References: <54oj5q$mhb@news.tamu.edu> Stephen Johnson (stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu) wrote: : Anyone know of a place that will repair or have parts for the NeXTStation : monochrome monitor? : Stephen Johnson The only companyt that I know of that will do either is Bell Atlantic. Try reaching them @ (800)499-6398 (499-NeXT). I do warn you, however, they are expensive. Thanks, -- Gregory John Casamento UNIX/NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP C++ Software Engineer No DOS/WINDOWS PLEASE!!! Hughes Applied Information Systems P200/32MB/2.0G/8xCDROM/33.6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and do not in any way reflect those of my employer.
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Seagate ST31200N Date: 29 Oct 1996 14:34:21 GMT Organization: Division of Information Technology, UW-Madison Message-ID: <5554ld$3knm@news.doit.wisc.edu> I've been given (!) a Seagate ST31200N scsi drive (1.0635 GB formatted), a so-called HAWK1LP family drive. I'm wondering is anyone has tried this drive and found it to work on black hardware (cube, running 3.2). All comments welcome. -- [Jess Anderson % anderson@doit.wisc.edu % Network Engineering Technology Group] [Div of Information Technology O- Univ of Wisconsin % The opinions are my own.] [> One word frees us of all the weight and pain of life: that word is love. <-]
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NCR, NeXTSTEP, and Fast SCSI-II. Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:02:57 -0500 Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <AmRrklq00UhB81fS5n@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <Pine.HPP.3.95.961025163345.12910C-100000@hphalle0.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> <E02vpG.AM@hurka.UUCP> In-Reply-To: <E02vpG.AM@hurka.UUCP> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 30-Oct-96 Re: NCR, NeXTSTEP, and Fast.. by Tomas Hurka@hukatronic.c >> First fact: The NeXT drive _is_ slower than other drivers for >> other systems. E.g. Linux drivers are very fast. This is because >> e.g. NeXT's NCR driver is lacking command queuing and probably >> other opmization features. > [...] Woah, Tomas-- you appear to be completely confused. > IMHO The main reason is the fact that all NeXTSTEP drivers are object > oriented. % otool -o /sdmach ~ /sdmach: Objective-C segment can't print objective-C information no (__OBJC,__module_info) section You most certainly can and do have device drivers under NEXTSTEP which are not object-oriented at all and were written in C, not Objective C. > Also the kernel with the mach messages is a little bit slower > that other kernels. Mach messaging is efficient-- Mach messaging provides one of the faster implementations of shared memory and out-of-band messaging for doing IPC that I've seen. > Another disadvantage is that most access to the disk is from the page-in > page-out daemons since all files are memory mapped. Say what? If you open() a file, and lseek() and read() one byte from postion 1000000, I assure you that the system will not memory map the entire file. > This makes the the size of almost all requests to the driver equal to > virtual page size (4096 bytes). % vm_stat ~ Mach Virtual Memory Statistics: (page size of 8192 bytes) Pages free: 885. [ ... ] -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: gcasamen@eos.hitc.com (Greg Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: ATAPI CD-ROM & SCSI-CARD. (Compatible?) Date: 29 Oct 1996 00:01:04 GMT Organization: Hughes Team (EOSDIS) Message-ID: <553hg0$ptm@newsroom.hitc.com> Hi, I am in the process of building a machine specifically for NeXTSTEP. I am planning on having an EIDE 8x CD-ROM (ATAPI) in the machine as well as a SCSI removable harddisk. Will these two devices cooperate?? If the CD-ROM is seen by the system as sd0, will NeXTSTEP also try to map the SCSI controller's first device to sd0 or will it automatically come up as sd1?? Thanks for any information in advance, -- Gregory John Casamento UNIX/NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP C++ Software Engineer No DOS/WINDOWS PLEASE!!! Hughes Applied Information Systems P200/32MB/2.0G/8xCDROM/33.6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Opinions expressed here are mine and do not in any way reflect those of my employer.
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: ATAPI CD-ROM & SCSI-CARD. (Compatible?) Date: 30 Oct 1996 15:04:07 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <557qp7$k7s@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <553hg0$ptm@newsroom.hitc.com> gcasamen@eos.hitc.com (Greg Casamento) wrote: > Will these two devices cooperate?? Yes, they will. > If the CD-ROM is seen by the system as sd0, will NeXTSTEP also try to > map the SCSI controller's first device to sd0 or will it automatically > come up as sd1?? It will map it to sd1. The ATAPI part of the EIDE driver will map all CDROM drives it finds to the first free sdx device names at load time. This can be the source for a lot of installation hassles, e.g. when you upgrade a machine and exchange EIDE against SCSI devices or vice versa, because it depends on the order of the driver entries in the System.config/Instance0.table, how the devices are mapped. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 Mail: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (MIME/NeXT accepted) WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: rr34938@pinus.cc.etf.hr (Robert Radovic) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: EARN $50.000 LEGITIMATELY IN 6 WEEKS Date: 30 Oct 1996 17:39:55 GMT Organization: CARNet, CROATIA Distribution: world Message-ID: <5583tb$qn6@bagan.srce.hr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PRINT THIS OUT AND SAVE THIS POSTING ON YOUR COMPUTER, READ IT OVER A COUPLE OF TIMES, INVEST, AND WATCH THE MAIL BOX FOR THE MONEY! $5, plus the costs of 5 envelopes, 5 peices of paper, 5 stamps and a couple of hours on a computer and get $50,000 or more back in about six weeks!!!!!!! Invest in this TOTALY LEGITIMATE oppurtunity, Remember that this is legal, so you should report the profit of your investment on your taxes. Hello, I saw this news group posting and decided to invest $5 into it and see what I get in return. Hey, what's $5 ? Keep my address and keep in touch on the amount of money you get. In the posting I saw the person had done this before and made $47,326 in six weeks with his $5 and the cost of the stamps to mail the $5 to the five people on the list. This was his second round. If you do more than the 200 listings you will make more money. In this day what does $5 get you, and with all the people on the internet you are going to get you $5 back in days. Make $50,000 with a small amount of effort and a small cost of only $5 and a few hours of computer work (after you have saved this article on your computer, you can use it to compose your own article, if you want; just make the neccesary changes, like changing the names below; it should save you a couple of hours of computer work). This is a chance for the average person to get ahead in life so please send out $5 and put a little effort into your postings, and then watch the money roll in. This investment will cost you only $5, five stamps, envelopes, paper and a little computer work. If YOU and EVERY OTHER INVESTOR is HONEST and follows through with the plan, you will make $50,000 in about six weeks. Each investor will also make $50,000 in six weeks. THIS IS A LEGITIMATE INVESTMENT OPORTUNITY !!!!!!! When the money comes in, make a list of your investors, and you just started your own ORDER SERVICE COMPANY (don't worry, you don't have to do anything special, just read this article to the end, and you will get all the information you need). Since you are starting a company that provides a service, you make the money LEGITIMATELY (that's the whole idea about this company business). The service you provide is the "list of investors" that you have compiled. You invest $5, and you receive a return on your investment. So does the next investor. NOT ILLEGAL, NOT A CHAIN LETTER - PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE. There are other plans like this out there that ask you to send out $10 to five pepole, thats a fifty dollar investment and its hard to give $50 out when you are struggeling to pay the bills already. But with this plan you only invest about $5 and others only invest about $5. Hey what's $5 now-a-days? You could probably find that in the cracks of your couch. If you are not interested, than don't participate, but please print this article and pass it on to someone who may be interested, so they can take advantage. THIS IS WHAT YOU DO: The procedure is simple: 1) Write your name and address and an e-mail address, on 5 sheets of paper. Below that, write the words: "Please add me to your list". Then fold a $1 in each piece of paper (make sure the money is inside the paper, so that it can't be easily stolen, send no coins) and send them to the following five addresses: 1. Allen Malkowitch 23 Baker Street #712 Denver CO 80203 USA 2. Wilma Vogel Broettenstr. 19/25 9020 Klagenfurt AUSTRIA 3. Lenny LaForget 364 Delisla Chicoutimi G76 3B4 CANADA 4. Goran Stojsic Ljubljanska Avenija 2 236/B 10000 Zagreb CROATIA 5. Robert Radovic Ljubljanska Avenija 2 224A/A 10000 Zagreb CROATIA 2) Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other four names up. In other words, #5 should become #4, and so on. Put your name as the fifth one on the list. Any simple text editor will do. 3) Post the article to at least 200 newsgroups. There are 17,000 of them these days, so it shouldn't be hard to find many. Spend some time on your investment and post to as many newsgroups as you can, and the bigger the newsgroup is, the more people are to see your message and the more money you make. So post to as many as you can. You are now in an ORDER SERVICES BUSINESS, and should start seeing returns within a week or two. Of course, the more newsgroups you post to, the greater your return is. If you wish to remain anonymous, you may use a psuedonym, call yourself, "The Manager", of "The Boss", whatever, but make sure your address is correct. HERE IS HOW THE SYSTEM MAKES MONEY: -Of every 200 posts I made, I received 5 responses. Yes, only five. You make $5 for every 200 posts with your name at #5. -Each person who sent you $1 now also makes 200 additional postings with your name at #4. i.e. 1000 postings. On average therefore, 50 people will send you $1 with your name at #4. You make $50. -Your 50 new agents make 200 postings each with your name at #3 or 10,000 postings. Average return= $500. They make 200 postings each with your name at #2= 100,000 postings= 5,000 returns at $1 each= $5,000. -Finally, 5,000 people make 200 postings each with your name at #1 and you get a return of $50,000 before your name drops off the list. AND THAT'S IF EVERYONE DOWN THE LINE MAKES "ONLY" 200 POSTINGS! From time to time, when you see your name no longer on the list, you can take the latest posting that appears in the newsgroups, and send out another $5, and put your name at #5, and start posting again. Remember, 200 postings in only a guideline. The more you post, the greater the return. Let's review why you should do this. THE ONLY COST IS $5. Anyone can afford $5 for such an effortless investment with such SPECTACULAR RETURNS! You may ask, "what happens if the scheme is played out and no one sends me money?" Big deal, you lose $5. But what are the chances of that happening? We are talking about the Internet here. There are millions of Internet users, and thousands more joining everyday! YOU CAN'T LOSE!!! There are too many people out there to not miss this message, and there will be thousands new tomorrow. Remember, read the instructions CARFULLY, and PLAY FAIRLY. That's the only way this will work. Get a printout so you can refer to this article easily. REMEMBER-HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHEAT THIS IDEA TO MAKE MONEY!! BESIDES, NOT PLAYING THE GAME FAIRLY IS ILLEGAL. SO LET'S BE REASONABLE AND PLAY FAIRLY, SO WE CAN ALL ENJOY THE INTERNET GOLD MINE. GOOD LUCK!!!! :)
Sender: rr34938@pinus.cc.etf.hr (Robert Radovic) From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Subject: cmsg cancel <5583tb$qn6@bagan.srce.hr> no reply ignore Control: cancel <5583tb$qn6@bagan.srce.hr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <cancel.5583tb$qn6@bagan.srce.hr> Organization: Semi-Automatic Chain Letter Remover Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:13:14 GMT ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov. Make Money Fast has been posted thousands of times, enough to qualify as cancel-on-sight spam. The chain letter scheme it describes is illegal in many countries. For example, see: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm
From: "Rob Blessin" <rob@optimal-object.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: IBM 760CD Driver Does Not Work Date: 30 Oct 1996 17:04:56 GMT Organization: Optimal Object, Inc. Message-ID: <01bbc6c0$679a3340$376df326@void.object-tech.com> References: <5559sa$8c5@pravda.aa.msen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Tim Jeltma; You might try Shannon Edwards at Deep Space Technologies, 301-663-3033 http://www.deepspacetech.com/ . He works with a developer Bobby that writes drivers for active Matrix Displays for $300. They have Drivers for Compaq, Toshiba Tecras and Twin Heads! -- Rob Blessin National Sales Account Manager Optimal Object , Inc. 4685 Peoria St., Suite 221 Denver, CO 80239 PH# 800-452-7608 PH# 303-799-6223 FAX 303-799-1435 Email: rob@optimal-object.com http://www.optimal-object.com/ FEIN 84-128-1797 tim@vcl.com wrote in article <5559sa$8c5@pravda.aa.msen.com>... > This is a distress call. Any help that you can give would be greatly > appreciated. > > Earlier this year I wanted to buy a laptop that would be capable of running > NEXTSTEP, Win/95 and Win/NT. > > IBM is of course well known for producing outstanding machines. At the > beginning of this year they came out with the 760 series. As soon as I heard > the word from NeXT that they were indeed going to write a driver for this > machine I placed an order. Four months later I received my machine with > Win/95 preloaded on it. > > I subsequently purchased an additional 1 Gig hard drive upon which I would > load NEXTSTEP 3.3 or OpenStep 4.0. > > I successfully loaded NEXTSTEP with all of the latest drivers obtained from > NeXTanswers with alarming ease. > > Now for the bad news. The system hangs after the boot is complete - right > when it tries to load the 760 video display driver. I tried everything and > then some. The machine works fine in VGA mode with NS loaded but, I do not! > > I then decided to give someone else a try. I sent my laptop to a certified > NEXTSTEP hardware vendor to load NEXTSTEP 3.3 or OpenStep 4.0 and properly > configure the 760 video driver. > > After 2+ weeks of effort they are giving up. I will say that they were > extremely helpful and put a lot of time into this project without charging me > any money. > > I now have $7,300.00 into a laptop that NeXT supposedly supports and I cannot > get NS to run on it. (In case you're wondering we did try to load OS 4.0. > It doesn't work either) > > IBM won't touch it because the machine works fine with Win/95. I can't > return it to the place I bought it (CDW Inc) because I have had it for more > than a month. > > If anyone has any information that might help I would be very grateful. > > > -- > > ____________________ > Tim Jeltema > Valley City Linen Corp. > 10 Diamond Ave. S.E. > Grand Rapids, MI 49506 > > Phone: 616 459-6922 > E-Mail: tim@vcl.com > [NeXT Mail Accepted] > >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sr@rdbois.fdn.org (serge_ruby) Subject: Re: Next Modems? - Can I connect any external/serial modem to my NEXT Machine?? Message-ID: <1996Oct29.205924.17919@rdbois.uucp> Sender: sr@rdbois.uucp (serge_ruby) Organization: S.RUBY References: <Dzor5q.31I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 20:59:24 GMT In article <Dzor5q.31I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > In article <326c0edd.1811537@netnews.worldnet.att.net>, Tower <Tower> wrote: > > > > > >Next Modems? > > > >What do I purchase? > > > > For black hardware you can get pretty much anything you want, as long as it's > external and you have or build the correct cable (instructions in the man page > for zs). Zyxel is, of course, the best, but you pay for it. I use a USR > Sportster 28.8 for PPP and it works fine, although this modem doesn't work for > faxing. > I bought a Zyxel because it was widely used amongst the NeXT community and I must admit it works alright. But it costed me a bomb and I was very disappointed when I opened the box to realize it was masde in Taiwan, when I thought it was american. Now I am planning to upgrade to a faster modem (mine is 14400) and I wonder too what to buy. Why do you say that "Zyxel is, of course, the best"? What does it offer that other don't? Are there still modems around that do not offer faxing functionalities or is it a problem between NeXTstep and USR modems? Thanks in advance for more information.
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: NeXTdimension bootstrap Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:35:12 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <558aq9$3bu@news.wco.com> References: <54rdbt$2cc@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <550kde$5qb@news.wco.com> <5531cn$bvp@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) wrote: >>For multiple CPU boards to work in a Cube, at most one of the boards >>will be connected to backplane signals other than power and ground. >>I'd bet that your 040 board has an NBIC chip installed next to the >>NeXTbus connector, and the 030 cards have an empty socket there. >You mean that quite little PGA socket? The last thing I heard about that >socket was that it was a proprietary port for a logic analyzer ;-).. Cool, >that makes sense. All my '030 boards have nothing in that PGA socket. That's the NBIC socket. The old NeXTbus Developer's Guide has a diagram in it showing how to hook a logic analyzer up through the socket. Maybe that's what caused the confusion here. >>The NeXTdimension board should boot from the 040 board in Slot 0. The >>ND board can be in slots strapped to be NeXTbus slot 2, 4, or 6. The >>68040 board boot ROM knows how to initialize and examine the NeXTbus >>for peripheral cards such as the NeXTdimension. The 68030 board boot >>ROM doesn't do this. >Aha, great! That makes a lot of sense. Right now all the slots are coded 0 >for the CPU's to work. So, how does the '030 board work with NeXTdimensions >then? I mean, how does it find it? Do you have to explicitly tell the ROM >about it? A 68030 board without an NBIC won't be able to talk to any NeXTbus peripherals. All it has are power and ground connections onto the NeXTbus. With an NBIC installed, the 68030 board ROM code still won't talk to the NeXTbus. The kernel code will initialize the NBIC, though, and then loadable device drivers (like the NeXTdimension driver) can communicate over the bus to their peripherals. Since the ROM code on the 68030 board is not NeXTbus-aware, a NeXTdimension + 68030 system will always have it's ROM monitor and boot animation on the two-bit gray display. No ROM upgrades for 68030 systems were available to make the ROM NeXTbus-aware. The 68040 system boot ROMs were designed to support the NeXTbus. The ROMs contain code which can initialize the CPU board NBIC and scan the NeXTbus slot address spaces looking for peripherals. When known types of peripherals are found, a p-code interpreter in the boot ROM executes initialization code on the peripheral card and adds the card to an internal device list. For display cards, the 68040 ROM selects the card in the highest slot number (or the card specified as the console by the Preferences.app Displays panel) as the console. The ROM monitor, boot animation, console, and login window will appear on this screen. >Is there documentation still available for exactly details in NeXTdimension >programming? No. The NeXTdimension is a dedicated accelerator for Display PostScript, Quick Renderman, and the video mechanism supported by NXLiveVideoView. All programming for the board is done through the published API for PostScript, Quick Renderman, and NXLiveVideoView. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: "Dr. Uwe Meyer-Gruhl" <meyergru@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Weitek P9100 anyone? (SPEA Storm Pro) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:15:35 +0000 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <3277C577.5AD4@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> References: <5554ld$3knm@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, has anyone tried a SPEA Storm Pro under OpenStep 4.0 yet? There is a general Weitek P9100 driver, but it seems not to work with that particular card. As SPEA Europe is incapable of even telling me the appropriate addresses for the linear framebuffer, maybe someone has got that beast to work. The card works fine with Windows and is only slightly slower (30%) than my Matrox Millenium. At 250 DM it is a real scream with 4 MByte VRAM and a 220 Mhz RAMDAC. If it only worked under OPENSTEP... cheers, Uwe
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From: "Dr. Uwe Meyer-Gruhl" <meyergru@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Weitek P9100 (SPEA Storm Pro) anyone? Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:22:31 +0000 Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <3277C717.D44@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, has anyone tried a SPEA Storm Pro under OpenStep 4.0 yet? There is a general Weitek P9100 driver, but it seems not to work with that particular card. As SPEA Europe is incapable of even telling me the appropriate addresses for the linear framebuffer, maybe someone has got that beast to work. The card works fine with Windows and is only slightly slower (30%) than my Matrox Millenium. At 250 DM it is a real scream with 4 MByte VRAM and a 220 Mhz RAMDAC. If it only worked under OPENSTEP... cheers, Uwe
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: NeXTdimension bootstrap Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:35:21 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <558aqh$3bu@news.wco.com> References: <54rdbt$2cc@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <550kde$5qb@news.wco.com> <5531cn$bvp@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <E01n5K.Lu8@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > I wondered about this too. In the Dimension's instructions (that I saw many >years ago) it said that NeXT "strongly recommended" upgrading to an '040, but >that it wasn't a requirement. Howeve, maybe you have to use a newer ROM >version. I don't know what the deal is regarding ROM version compatibility >with '030 and '040 boards. There are no ROM upgrades for the 68030 board. The '040 upgrades got you a faster CPU (feeding the i860 from the '030 was an exercise in thumb twiddling. It could chew through it's command queues way faster than the '030 could fill them. The '040 system was better balanced), and a NeXTbus aware ROM that would let you run with a sound box instead of the 2 bit gray display, and still get to the ROM monitor and see the boot animation. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT color monitors - differences? Date: 30 Oct 1996 19:22:10 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5589t2$p3c@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> Hi guys: I noticed that there are generally two types of color monitors advertised.. 21" Hitachi's and 17" Fimi... What's the difference aside from size? Thanks, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz <kuhtz@ix.netcom.com>, office: ckuhtz@paranet.com Network/UNIX Specialist for Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ Supercomputing Junkie, et al MIME/NeXTmail accepted -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.3ia mQBtAzJ1KUgAAAEDANT2dtFldbUJujgjhkAsIcGqcfVKwbruvWJOum7ENEAB2fld wGC/pcZ7gV6MVI9aRGrHzXe4TTbDDwRMe9LREh6pj/SaABcuueu1gF/wIP8wVvTc c6MIC60gApLtSxRMqQAFEbQlQ2hyaXN0aWFuIEt1aHR6IDxrdWh0ekBpeC5uZXRj b20uY29tPokAdQMFEDJ1KUkgApLtSxRMqQEBfWwC/3OLYMd7Qq99xbwqB4Ln/cAH 7VPJirBIHz0+fi+MLeifb9iBcl0ZhtKSsSDNgvxfAlqG0rTGto5PKiygi/2L3Gmb QqHaOg3E/OT0bxdAww9EODi2U+mSBb2WikFytCPKOQ== =xcbY -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dimension problem - need help Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:35:25 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <558aqm$3bu@news.wco.com> References: <54t5v0$q7p@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> frank@this.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: >Today I tried to connect my video recorder to it. It is an old model with >video output only. (No S-VHS), So I connected the video output to the port A >(of the dimension card). The effect was zero. Using NeXTtv and VideoApp I was >not able to see any difference to the unconnected port. >I switched all input ports but I saw nothing (execpt a bit static when gamma >is set too high). I have an effect when I switch to the S-VHS port and toggle >the video recorder connection I can see very faint ghost images. I've gotten this result with a bad video cable. Assuming that you tried different cables, and were using the input jacks and not the output jacks, this doesn't bode well for the hardware. It's possible (but not likely) that the VCR output is too dirty for the hardware to lock onto. You might try running the ScreenScape demo app. This will send a part of the display on the ND board out to the video outputs. See if this shows up on your Sony TV. Also, by default, the ND video hardware should be in pass-through mode when the system is first powered up. That is, a video signal on composite video input A is digitized, pumped over the internal video bus, and put out the video outputs. Try putting the ND video in the loop between the VCR and TV and see if anything shows up on the TV. >Am I doing something wrong? Do I use the wrong port? Is the Dimension not >able to read the PAL video signal of my video recorder (the recorder works >fine when connected to a normal Sony TV by BNC->SCART connector)? What are >these ports on the backside of the Dimension anyway? Going from the top down, there are three output connectors, and then 3 input connectors: RGB Video out (DB-9 female) S-VHS out Composite Video Out (RCA female) Composite Video In A (RCA female) Composite Video In B (RCA female) S-VHS in Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
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